T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: I think I figured out how to fix the auction cutoff bug in Aard's MushClient
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: really?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: send me the plugin
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fix is on tech board
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: yeah.  It's a pain, because Gammon used a shortcut to remove the tags, and that shortcut ruins channel text with no color code at the beginning
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: d'oh.  Oh well.  it was a nice exercise :-)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: note from fiendish
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'm curious to hear how you fixed it though lechter, if your method differs from mine
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: It's not that big of a deal.  Just create a new send_to_world function, with "v.text = string.gsub (v.text, "{chan ch=.*}", "")" as a part of the styles loop
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I thought I remembered Lasher posting a fix like 4-6 months ago, but was too lazy to dig it up ;-)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yikes
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: hmm.. that second argument in gsub should have been a tag pattern
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that's more processing than you need
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I think my version is more elegant
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: the note dosent tell me which xml file I should alter...
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the chat plugin of course
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: probably.  But I just learned LUA through google during my fix heh
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: ok I try it
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: C:\Program Files\MUSHclient\worlds\plugins\Aardwolf\Aardwolf_chats.xml
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: yea I cant find that exact string of words in the chats plugin 'get rid of the tag'
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: really? hold on
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: sorry
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: get rid of tag
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: its this line that im supposed to replace?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: table.remove (styles, 1)  -- get rid of tag
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: yeah, replace the tables.remove line
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: with that whole thing?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: well I backed it up just to be safe
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: reinstalling the plugin to be sure
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: I bid on that academy cloak to test it out
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you have to reinstall the plugin after modifying it, of course
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: ok here we go
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: oh wow that worked!
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: thank yall so much!
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: oh nice! it works perfectly thanks so much!
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: in cmud, is there a setting I can use to get the mapper to track my movements more quickly?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Edhelan Tech: what do I do if mushclient doesn't have a Map, Stats, window, etc. for me to see?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Edhelan Tech: i.e. how do I get these extra windows to show up?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: I have a conundrum for you all. It may be hopeless.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Niartu peers around herself intently.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: I have a Macintosh laptop on which I want to install Linux - pretty much any distro, as long as it has a PPC version.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: The problem: I have no CD/DVD burner, no built-in USB, no other computer to install from using netboot... and a pretty slow internet connection.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Thoughts? :D
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: I can send you a FreeBSD CD :)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Niartu :S  I know there's a program called wubi that would help you if you were in windows... maybe try googling for a mac version
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, an can't wait for a Cd delivery ;-)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon seems to think you have the right idea.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: No one is leaping at the opportunity, Abelinc :(
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: pray to the daemon
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's a dozen ways to do it, and you've got a dozen reasons to not use those ways :P
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Is there dual boot tool for mac?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, lots of them
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: booting isn't an issue for her
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: But if you could boot into a Linux installer, wouldn't that work?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://yaboot.ozlabs.org/releases/archived/yaboot-binary-1.3.12.tar.gz
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: in zmud is there anyway to add a command to the builtin recall command?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: alias?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: well when i search thru the classes i have thereis no recall command to add to and it seems the built in one overrides any alias I come up with with the same name
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: try checkin the help file with a keyword of recall? probably a common problerm
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: ok thnx
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: is this mcafee software any good?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: yep and nope
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: eh?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: ever heard of dialectism?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: que?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: there's no definite answer to your question
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: so... better than nothing
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: out of curiosity, were you asking about the antivirus?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: perhaps?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: perhaps?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: maybe in time
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: well, switch to Linux/Unix, try thousands of programs (they
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: well, switch to Linux/Unix, try thousands of programs (they're all free, yay!), get tired, switch back to Windoze/MacOS, don't bother choosing any crappy software anymore
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: well, switch to Linux/Unix, try thousands of programs (they're all free, yay!), get tired, switch back to Windoze/MacOS, don't bother choosing any crappy software anymore
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: i heard u the first time
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: sorry, something's wrong with the channel
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: history's missing something
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon peers intently at Sakamoto.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the only thing wrong with history is that contest submissions haven't been posted yet
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: hmm, one of my gags played a trick on me
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: good luck
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: does anyone else put their camcorder videos on their pc
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: well im recording my first one over
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: its only about 25 mnutes into it
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's big ;-)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: and its already 5.25 gb
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: what can i do with it after i finish  so its not taking up space... like are there any dvd's that would actually hold it?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: most dvd's say they hold 120 minutes, but 4.7 gb
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dvd is mpeg compressed, the dv is raw
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: can i compress it?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can use dvd authoring software to make DVDs of the home movies
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I use Nero, personally
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dunno what options Windows Movie maker has
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: the .wmv or soemthing format is alot smaller than .mpg i think
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i think it's pretty easy to convert from one to ther other on windows
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, the question is where you want it eventually...you don't want to keep reconverting as you lose info each time
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: well, could burn a dvd with the original .mpg then save it on your hd with .wmv
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: well i couldn't figure ot how to go straight to a dved
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: but id be fine with going straight to a dvd
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do you have any purchased burning software (the packaged OEM ones usually leave off DVD video authoring)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: i don't know
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: well i don't know all i know is i started importing the best way using windows thing and it was taking upa shit ton of space
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: i know nothing about putting camcorder videos onto a pc, nothing at all
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: basically, yeah, it'll take up a lot of space...then after you get it in, you can convert it to something smaller
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: ok
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: so just put it on then convert it?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: should i get nero like what u use?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nero is a commercial package...80 bucks
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: if u buy it
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: yea but what are the benefits.... like what does it do that would benefit me
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd check your Start->Programs to see what you already have on the computer
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Windows Movie Maker can make the movie much smaller than the raw file, I'm looking to see what options it has now
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: k
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: actually, it looks like windows movie maker offers a pretty large selection of options for how big/small you want the file to be, in relation to quality
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ola, you've *always* had a laptop that boots to a terminal screen, you just chose to hide that
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mis
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your Mac has had a working shell since it rolled off the assembly plant...set autoboot false
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Oh damn! Apprentice Oladon caught your mischannel.  Where is a rock to hide under?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Junkai Tech: vista cant run zmud?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: it can too
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkish Tech: you have to give zmud admin rights in vista and then it runs with no problems
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Junkai Tech: i copied the folder from my xp over to my lappy
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Junkai Tech: and it cant run saying violation stuff
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WeaponGuy Tech: Vista can't even get out of its own way, without 17 GBs of RAM... I hate it.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: ya, n00bs do hate it
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Windows 7 is tons better than Vista. :P
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: those that know how it works understand that is a ton of rubbish
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: though win 7 is nice
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Perhaps don't install zmud in program files-- try a different folder?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkish Tech: is hte leaked windows 7 alpha/beta or whatever it was the real deal?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Real deal, yeah. :P
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: yes
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkish Tech: i may hafta ninja that shit
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: is there a beta version available for dl?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magish Tech: As real as a alpha/beta or w/e can be
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Tech is nocurse. Please keep it that way. :P
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WeaponGuy Tech: Nothing was wrong with XP, that Vista even had to be made. Just update for new tech.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkish Tech: justa few network tweaks would have made xp much better
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: there was plenty wrong with xp
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: xp won't allow me to make the most of the hardware i own
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: also
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: by your reasoning
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: but there is no eye candy in XP!
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: there was nothing wrong with vhs
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WeaponGuy Tech: Just another gold-plated jet for Bill Gates and the nerds who arbitrarilly feel they have to have whatever is newest to substitute for a girlfriend make it possible.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: anyone got a hunt script for zmud that they would be willing to share?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: That's illegal! *blink*
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Just kidding.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: looking for something thatincrease the *.hunt everytime i hit a key
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Finger atreidess.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: ty
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Ah... that is slightly different, then.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: That one will just autohunt for you.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: atreidess.baalclan.com actually
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: ok will look at it, otherwise any idea of where to start with an incremental hunt alias?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, clan dessy's got his stuff up somewhere again
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err glad
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It's really simple. #ALIAS blah {hunt @huntnum.mob;#ADD huntnum 1}
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: there is an auto hunt for mush on mush forums iirc
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I think his autohunt is from before the multiple hunt messages, tho
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you'll probably have to play with the trigs
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Nah, it's been updated.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's now 4 different messages depending on prac %
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods at you in agreement. 
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: its post-changews
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: he updated or removed most of the stuff iirc
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Palladius Tech: what's a good linux console client for aardworlf ?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gundam Wing Tech: tinyfugue?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Palladius Tech: /me googles
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: tinyfugue and tintin++
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Palladius Tech: anyone uses MMC ?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: the perl one?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Palladius Tech: (on linux)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Palladius Tech: yes
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: nope, but I plan to. Either mmc or pmc.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Palladius Tech: I <3 mmc but I have a problem
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Palladius Tech: it does not recognize some keycodes on linux
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: huh?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Palladius Tech: keypad numbers are treated as regular numbers
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: ah :)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: well, I haven't used a keyboard with a keypad for a while now
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Palladius Tech: I really want to fix it but MMC is a mess of C, perl and bootstrapped C
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: really? I thought it was cleanish perl :(
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Palladius Tech: my perl is really good but my C isnt and terminal handling is in C
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Palladius Tech: and the most depressing is the fact that it works perfectly on win32
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: well, the immediate workaround is to forget about the keypad :) you won't look back :)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: don't your hands and fingers hate to move around so much?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Palladius Tech: but I *love* my keypad bindings
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Palladius Tech: brb...
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: holy got, looked at the new intel chip, but the cheapest mobo to go with it is like $250
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: holy got, looked at this new lass, but the cheapest ferrari to go with her is like EUR300k
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: early prototype mainboards are likely overpriced
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well this is hardly prototype now, is it?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: what cpu are you looking at?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: when the mainboard manufacturers realise that few shall buy that product, they raise the prices
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 'enthusiasts' only, it would seem
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: give em 6 months, they'll produce a mainstream board
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: depends on whether the cpu is priced 'mainstream'
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yeah, just about
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: high-end, but mainstream
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: as of yet though, i wouldn't be able to build it into a games pc for the requisite 599 price tag
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DumbAs Dartanion Tech: i have a question, im in the market for a new computer
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DumbAs Dartanion Tech: and was just wandering is acer a decent brand?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not really
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DumbAs Dartanion Tech: dosn't have to last me forever just say idk a year maybe?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it'll do that, it's bog-standard
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DumbAs Dartanion Tech: okay cool after a year or so ill probably invest a nice load into a mac or somtin of more quality
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DumbAs Dartanion Tech: thanks btw!
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: a pc is supposed to last 10 years
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: supposed to by who? certainly not the manufacturers
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 3-5
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Air-Borne Anadorr Tech: best pc is the one you buld yourself
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Air-Borne Anadorr Tech: build*
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: not necessarily
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DumbAs Dartanion Tech: and not when i build it :D
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Air-Borne Anadorr Tech: ask ur friend to do that :)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: Help w\ zmud alias? Trying to check if the alias argument is "z" then check if there is no argument supplied. It says "it was z" even if there is no argument. #if (%1="z") {#echo "it was z"} {#if (%1="") {#echo "no arg"}}
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Galadar Tech: how do you imput gags via the imput bar on cmud?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: #gag {pattern}
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: unless it's changed a lot :P
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon . o O ( Emacs )
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: /usr/bin/vim kthxbye
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: usr/bin/nano
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: /usr even
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: eeghhh.  i can't stand nano
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: I used to use emacs, but too much time spent on AIX without.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: got used to ed?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Naah, use vi.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Besides, emacs was always so slow to start up.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: vim here
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Indeed. Vim.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: on 1/2 of my systems, /usr/bin/vi is really nvi, on the other half, /usr/bin/vi is really vim
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Robbo rapidly nods twice to you, in complete agreement.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: I dream about a mud client with vim-style interface (but too lazy to write)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Typically vim..
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: abelinc, do you mean *BSD? (they all seem to have nvi in base)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my NetBSD boxes are nvi, MacOSX is vim
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Abelinc is a *BSD abuser ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: oh, that's great to know :) any FreeBSD installations? :)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah, I run on such dissimilar hardware, NetBSD was the clear choice for me
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: FreeBSD is fine if your whole world is i386
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: heh. with a bit of amd64, sparc, mips, arm, alpha, xen... :)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: What kinda hardware you run on, Abelinc?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: started using it on Mac68k, then bought an Alpha, got some PPC Macs, and finally some i386
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I'm running a weird amd64 that doesn't click with Ubuntu or Debian ... do you think just switching to netBSD would help?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: I so seldom stray outside of i386 or Power...
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: doesn't click?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Well, it just doesn
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Well, it just doesn't boot, etc.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, that's weird tho, cuz amd64 is pretty vanilla
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: My home box is so f*^%ed up with fancy new hardware I actually left Windows on it.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Mostly for the TV tuner card. :(
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: robbo, as long as it's got putty on it ;-)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: It's a pentium Dual-Core T3400, if you know anything about it..
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Well of course it does, as well as any other shit I could find that cross-compiled :)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Not an Imm Erikson still things putty's terminal emulation is pretty screwed up...
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wait, how is it pentium and amd?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Not an Imm Erikson raises an eyebrow at you.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: How can it be amd and i386?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: abelinc, intel uses amd64 tech :)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: It's a crummy dual-core chip, doesn't boot any of the i386 live CDs
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: PuTTY works nice for everything I deal with.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Robbo peers intently at Trurien.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: The new dual-core chips are amd64 compatible, so I'm told.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: You've got something else screwy then...
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I think so too...
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: almost every 64-bit cpu is amd64 (ia64, sparc64 and a few other minor exceptions outstanding)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Erikson- they gave me a free ram upgrade ... could those cause machine check exceptions?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, alpha was first :P
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: If the two types of RAM are incompatible, etc...
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or if there's just a bad stick
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Screwy RAM could cause just about anything.  You'll have to narrow it down more.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: It seems to detect fine, though.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: But if it were actually a bad stick, you would of course catch it from the ECC errors being logged, right?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Vista claims I have 2.87GB of RAM..
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Where would I see the ECC errors?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: being detected doesn't mean there aren't issues with it, if you're not touching that part of RAM
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: The only way I can use linux now is by launching the installer, opening another terminal and mounting the installed root fs:(
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: I was being sarcastic, because I expect that you don't (absurdly) have ECC memory.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Not an Imm Erikson stabbies Intel for screwing that up again.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Try booting with noapic/acpi=off?  Had a machine that wouldn't boot without those options from install media. (old AMD box)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: parity FTW!
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You run away in terror and horror!
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Reducing some of that crud might get you through the initial bootup.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: ECC just slips my mind at the moment ... what does it mean?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: APIC should be fine (technically, a working APIC is required of the AMD64 platform).  ACPI is still often broken.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Robbo, thanks, shall try it.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: So bypassing that can help.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: So, I add acpi=off to the kernel line, no?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: If that's how you do it in Linux.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Not an Imm Erikson doesn't know.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Yup.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: That's for GRUB only... I believe it would be slightly different for isolinux or lilo.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Well, it didn't help... I
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I'm still getting the same errors, with the 2nd CPU it seems.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Edias Tech: Gah Adobe CS3 takes so long to reinstall :-( 
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torghay Tech: has anyone ever had an external harddrive fail on them and recovered the information off of the disk by inserting it into your pc?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pilsen Tech: is there a mccp for macs
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pilsen blinks innocently.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pilsen Tech: i use Rapscallion 2.0.2
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's multiple MUD clients that support mccp already, or you can compile/run mcclient, just like on windows
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Anyone with experience setting up Aironet cards on Linux?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: aironet some form of wireless?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Nods, it's a Cisco card.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: shouldn't it be dumb-simple with newer kernels?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: Customer Services: Why are you leaving our broadband service?  Me: Well it just took 3 minutes to load google home page. This is typical of the evening service
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: that'll teach you to use aol
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they were fine until those useless cheese-eating surrender monkey french took them over
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If at all possible, I never, ever, try to cancel any service over the phone :P
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: only way over here, typically
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, you failed to mention that your general service even to google sucked in your diatribes about the lag to Aard :P
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: service to anywhere sucks at peak time
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: next task, to find a new pci-x wifi card
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: would have thought they'd be standard by now
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: when someone says "pci-x wifi card", I hear "a separate AP"
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: what's the point?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: eh? no, this will be to replace my old pci one whose drivers are rubbish
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: then get a new pci one
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why? won't be able to use it when i upgrade
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: do you mean PCIe?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for wifi, get a USB one :P
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: PCI-E 1x, yes
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: USB ones that have external antennae sockets are bloody expensive
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: pcie != pcix
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: usb are usually sold with extension cords
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: the card is the antenna
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: otherwise, they're mostly crappy
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: rather have a pci-e one, then i can carry on using my 12dB dish antennae
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just get a pccard reader
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: I'd get an AP. Same $ ballpark, much more flexible.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: there we go, this one'll do, 13 quid including shipping
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: most pci* cards were just pc cards with readers anyway...was true from day 1 until a year or so ago, doubt it's changed much more recently...
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sakamoto  isn't sure what abelinc is talking about
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hell, it's even true of APs...they're just a PC card with a carrier
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sakamoto is now sure Abelinc is making no sense
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you've never opened an AP case
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: pci-e far more preferable to extra guff clinging onto the outside of my computer case
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: Abelinc, I think you're confused (?..)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope, not confused in the least
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: pc card is an interface
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You pat Sakamoto on his head.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, when wifi came out, all forms of wifi devices were pcmcia...when pcmcia was renamed to pc card, that didn't change...they were updated to cardbus when speeds increased...
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you got a vanilla pci wifi card, it was a pcmcia card in a pci carrier
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: I think you're confused by the screens that are installed on most wi-fi cards
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you crack open anything from a dlink residential AP to cisco enterprise AP, bluesocket, or nearly any other, you see that same pcmcia card sitting in a carrier
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: heh :)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Not an Imm Erikson has never seen a wireless card with a screen on it...
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm staring at the physical card, not looking at screens
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you don't know what I'm talking about, then you have nfc on the subject
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Agent Dashiell peers at you intently. 
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: what in the world makes you think that's pcmcia? I'm talking about the metallic screens, not your crt/lcd ones
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: While we're on the topic, am I the only grumpy misanthrope left who finds the meaningless construction "wifi" incredibly annoying?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh I dunno, the fact that I yank it out of the industrial case and stick it into my laptop :P
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it pcmcia/pccard/express, depending on generation
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sakamoto feels being wildly enlightened... or... trolled
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: Abe doesn't troll, he just patronizes and teaches ;P
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Blailus is agreeing with that Cruella de Purr person again...
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: Put him on ignore, cut down on useless spam.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I try the teaching part, learning is left as an exercise for the listener, unfortunately
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cuts down on starling ever learning anything as well :-)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Never ignore, you never know when there's a useful line from where you least expect
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but we all know that'll never happen :-)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: It appears that Cruella de Purr completely adores you!
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You give Officer Starling the raspberry... and spit all over yourself.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: abe, can you kindly point me to a 3rd-party reference on the subject?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torja Tech: Anyone know how I can shrink my fonts on screen and typing, I use MM2K
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's not an "appearance" settings pane or similar?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you may have a hard time finding people familiar with mudmaster, it's not really a popular client
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: check out configuration -> session options for font stuff in mudmaster2000
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torja Tech: I found it, thank you kindly
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sakamoto is more or less convinced, after some googling, that abe stumbled upon a few unfortunate specimen man years ago, and ever since has been claiming to be an expert on the "wifi === pccard" phenomenon
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: s/man/many/
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah, saka, "stumbled across" them in the enterprise even as pre-N spec current models...have 60 or so sitting in my office as we speak
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cisco, bluesocket, symbol
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: hmm. Maybe I have a low-end bias. It's just too expesive to include an extra packaging inside a device. Most cards are now like this: http://i.frazpc.pl/pliki/2002/auto/1106568163461654.jpg
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sakamoto has just autopsied his dwl-2100ap and exhaled pleasurably to find no trace of any pccard inside :)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: anyone wanna write me a mac darts score progam :)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: a what?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nothing on download.com?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: mac darts?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: didnt find it through google, will check there though
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: dunno why i didnt think of that
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm presuming he means a darts scoring program for the Mac
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or versiontracker
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sommers is allergic to OSX
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish comforts Sommers.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: how do i add a room in zmud
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: turn on the mapper, click on the square in the palette, click on the map (puts a new box there), click on the blue pushpin to set the current position to the new box, and type #look
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: that's for the built-in mapper...never paid for whatever the other mapper is.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: thanks tyebald, hmm can't find the square in the palette lol
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: ah i see it
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wrath of Aarioch Tech: Anyone available to help with a zmud issue?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: maybe
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wrath of Aarioch Tech: Stupid issue, and I can't remember how to fix it... kinda similar to lag, but it's the client... screen is just scrolling very very slowly
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wrath of Aarioch Tech: its like there is a slight pause in between each line that comes through
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wrath of Aarioch Tech: and I know it's not the internet connection bc it's only happening on one computer out of 4.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wrath of Aarioch Tech: I've tried upping the refresh rate as high as it will go... there's a "smooth scrolling" option or something somewhere, I remember using to fix this same problem before, but I don't remember where it's at.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: in preferences->general set refresh amount to 1
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wrath of Aarioch Tech: hmm
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wrath of Aarioch Tech: that's really bizarre, but ok, thanks, it worked.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: why is it bizarre?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wrath of Aarioch Tech: ok, I was wrong, it didn't work.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wrath of Aarioch Tech: I just tried it on the other computer... it slowed it down so badly that it's like being on dial-up with lag.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish raises an eyebrow.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: how old is your computer?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wrath of Aarioch Tech: it's a brand new laptop
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wrath of Aarioch Tech: acer
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: check it for viruses or spyware or something
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wrath of Aarioch Tech: just did a reinstall today
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wrath of Aarioch Tech: only thing ON it is zmud.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: nothing would make zmud slow to a crawl on a new computer
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wrath of Aarioch Tech: setting refresh rate to 1 did.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's not a RATE
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's an AMOUNT
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: read the help document
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it governs how many lines the mud needs to send before your screen updates
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wrath of Aarioch Tech: ok, either way, i did what you said, and it made it scroll one line at a time and flicker to black in between lines
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: then you have a problem with your computer
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: not related to zmud
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wrath of Aarioch Tech: setting refresh to 99 makes it scroll normally, but with a slight pause in between lines, like there is a miniscule amount of lag.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: or maybe you have some crazy scripts running constantly
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: don't set it to 99. set it to 0.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: read the help
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wrath of Aarioch Tech: 0 is just making it very slow.  I tried it on all the computers.  99 makes it faster.  I know it doesn't make any sense, that's why I'm asking for help.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: do you have any scripts installed?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: The default (5) should be good enough...
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: 1 is best
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wrath of Aarioch Tech: Only scripts are autoskin and spellup.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wrath of Aarioch Tech: Not really sure *why* its running faster on a 99 refresh instead.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: disable your scripts and see if it helps
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wrath of Aarioch Tech: But I'm running your Yashiro v3 spellup script.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's not MINE
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's yashiro's
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wrath of Aarioch Tech: Yes, I know, it's your copy, off of your site.  Yashiro wrote it.  I'm aware of that.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: other people have reported performance problems running it
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: try disabling it
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wrath of Aarioch Tech: I am personally not having any problems with it.  I'm asking on behalf of Sariona, it's her laptop that this is happening on, she's sitting in the same room with me.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: then tell her to get on tech
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sariona Tech: hello
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wrath of Aarioch Tech: She's got it on.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hi there
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I assume you've seen everything so far?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wrath of Aarioch Tech: I've been telling her what you said... refresh to 0 or 1, not 99, we tried that, it didn't work.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sariona Tech: right
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: i've seen everything since time began, at 8:59 this morning
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wrath of Aarioch Tech: Maybe a script, disable yashiro's spellup.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: on a new computer there's no reason for zmud to not do well with a refresh amount of 1 unless there's a bad script installed or something is wrong with your computer
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so the best thing to do is disable all scripts and see if it helps
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wrath of Aarioch Tech: Do you think maybe your capture script could cause this?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: my scripts? I doubt it
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: my scripts are perfect in every way
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but you never know
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: they are turing complete!
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sariona Tech: all scripts are deleted
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but of course any scripts not written by me may cause a problem, especially yashiro's spellup
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sariona Tech: and refresh amount at 0
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: set refresh amount to 1
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sariona Tech: and still doing it
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: quit and restart zmud?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sariona Tech: ok done
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sariona Tech: ok brb
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: while she's away, does she have any maps installed?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wrath of Aarioch Tech: she has nothing, she just deleted everything, did a killall
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wrath of Aarioch Tech: no maps prior to that though
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ok
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wrath of Aarioch Tech: she is rebooting the whole computer, just in case, right now.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: i just set cmud to refresh of 1, and i have 2 copies of vista, photoshop cs4, visual studio, sql server explorer, etc running
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: and it's smooth like a baby
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: like I said. on a new computer it's pretty inconceivable for zmud to not play well at refresh 1
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: and i have maps of most of the mud
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wrath of Aarioch Tech: it's done this before, and we fixed it, but don't remember what the fix for it was... it was something to do with a smooth scroll option that we had to check or turn on somewhere.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: smooth scroll is a mushclient option
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wrath of Aarioch Tech: but she just reinstalled xp, and now it's doing it again, and she's very frustrated because we can't remember what the fix was the first time.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: heh..never had the slightest issue with zmud performance on this athlon dualcore
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: except when it has a memory leak and crashes
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft coughs loudly.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you shouldn't have to do ANYTHING, is the problem, aarioch
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wrath of Aarioch Tech: I know.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: try scanning for viruses or something :P
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wrath of Aarioch Tech: I don't understand it either, that's why I'm asking you guys lol.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: it's almost certainly not zmud
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wrath of Aarioch Tech: chuft, it's a brand new install, nothing on it *except* zmud.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: unless she has bejito's moonbot installed
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sariona Tech: nothing installed on zmud
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: that was doing something damn strange on mine at one point
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sariona Tech: nothing
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vardamir Tech: maybe missins video drivers too? :)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wrath of Aarioch Tech: nope, all drivers are there.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: heh..not like zmud is graphics intensive
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't think it's a zmud problem, sariona, but I can try to troubleshoot your computer for you :p
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sariona Tech: its like it gives me 1 slow line at a time
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: well volunteered, fiendish
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I got nothing better to do atm
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: sure you don't have something spiking cpu usage?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: zmud can act like that when the computer is under extreme load
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sariona Tech: nothing on or running except zmud.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: pop up task manager (press control-shift-esc)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sariona Tech: brand new install, as aarioch said.  just installed it this morning.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: you sure? check running processes
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft nogs at Ol' Dirty Fiendish. Freaks!
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Striad Tech: right click on the task bar and select task manager
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sariona Tech: I set refresh to 1, it scrolls one line at a time like i'm on dialup.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sariona Tech: I set refresh to 99, I hit look, and the room pops up all at once.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sariona Tech: but when fighting, i am still getting slow scrolling with pauses in between each line.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: setting it to 99 is not a good solution
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it really should be set to 1. we need to fix the root cause
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sariona Tech: I know it doesn't make sense, but this is what it is doing, and why I am here asking.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: which is why I'm telling you to press ctrl-shift-esc
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sariona Tech: ok, task manager is up, zmud only thing running.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: go to the processes tab
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sariona Tech: ok
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what columns do you see?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sariona Tech: image name, user name, cpu, memory usage'
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ok. first go to View->Select Columns
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and activate PF Delta
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: sorry Page Faults Delta
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommers Tech: oh snap.  Serious trouble shootin' up in here.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sariona Tech: I knew what it was.  It's done.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: click on the CPU column to sort by CPU activity
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sariona Tech: ok done
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what's at the top?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sariona Tech: system idle process, 95
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and then zmud?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sariona Tech: followed by zmud, at 6 and task manager, at 2
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sariona Tech: but zmud and task manager are swapping back and forth
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: sort by pf delta
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: anything doing anything?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sariona Tech: explorer followed by zmud
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sariona Tech: 2 and 0
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hm. ok
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you can close that
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sariona Tech: ok
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sariona Tech: its like there is a jump in the screen every time i input a command when i'm fighting... i just dont get it
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: ..time to raid amazon
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: zmud 7.21?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sariona Tech: Go ahead, I've got 3 other computers that are working fine, just bc the one I *want* to play on is messing up doesn't mean I won't switch to defend.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sariona playfully tackles Iron Duck Chuft.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sariona Tech: Yes, just installed today.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you're not accidentally in mapper follow mode are you?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sariona Tech: I don't think so, how do I check?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: ctrl-m
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: check that the red x is checked
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sariona Tech: well, that opened something
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: er, parse that english if you can
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sariona Tech: red x checked, close out now?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: there's a menu bar across the top, check the red x towards the top left
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: yeah
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sariona Tech: Nothing different still.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sariona Tech: What is the "slowwalk" class?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: nothing important
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: from the mapper, don't worry about it
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sariona Tech: Can I delete it?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I would leave it alone
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sariona Tech: Ok, nvm.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: part of the basic setup before you change any settings, like the numpad class
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sariona Tech: Ok.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: if you're not sure what it does, then delete might not be the best option ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sariona goes, "Heh."
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish THWAPS Seltsimees Dagnir for being a moron.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sariona Tech: Any other ideas?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hmm
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sariona Tech: This is extremely frustrating.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: really I can't think of anything that would cause a performance issue other than a bad script or computer problem
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sariona Tech: And we've ruled both of those out.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what aboot the debugger?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sariona Tech: The what huh?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: windows -> debugger. you can check the triggers that are firing etc
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sariona Tech: There's nothing firing bc I did a killall.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there are no triggers
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sariona Tech: Its very frustrating, scrolling as if I am on dialup, and I've got a 15mb speed.  *pulls hair out*
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sariona Tech: And only in zmud, not happening in any other applications.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sariona Tech: to give you an idea of how slow it is... I can put a command in... and I see the echo... and two heartbeats later, it shows the execution.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: huh
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hail! Ceasar Tech: ping time problem to the aard server?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sariona Tech: You know, I didn't think to check that... one sec.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I suppose...
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: try creating a new connection to aardwolf (like all together new, via file / open / new rather than just double clicking on your regular icon in zmud)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: and see if the default settings work
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sariona Tech: one sec
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: if they do, try copy the default settings over manually, or a #killall (be careful if you don't know what that does)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: crayze, see the channel history.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sariona Tech: Crayze, I'm already running on killall.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sariona Tech: Fiendish, ping time is min 49 max 54 ms
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sariona Tech: through CMD
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that's better than mine
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sariona Tech: That's what I'm saying, it's not my inet, it's zmud itself.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vardamir Tech: 160ms here :( sucks!
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mine's about 60ms
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hail! Ceasar Tech: whee, 23
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hail! Ceasar Tech: but anyway...
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: did you set your MTU insanely low or something?  mccp requires a decent size MTU (it's hard coded in to most mccp code) so that it doesn't waste speed allocating / compressing small amounts by default + doesn't have to determine your mtu dynamically
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: for that you'd have to check your router / registry for your local mtu and your router's mtu
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish raises an eyebrow at Crayze's weird actions.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: don't be ridiculous
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: also, you can try another client on the same computer with mccp
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sariona Tech: Crayze... I have 3 other computers on this same router, and none are experiencing this problem.  We have defined the problem to this computer specifically.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: then it could be the local mtu.. which OS?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sariona Tech: All on XP
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sariona Tech: Not the mtu.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommers Tech: Have you not tried other clients on that PC?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sariona Tech: Although, in saying that, could MXP cause this?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I keep mxp enabled
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sariona Tech: Ok.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sariona Tech: anything else you can think of in preferences that might be a fix for this?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you can try disabling spell checking if you have it enabled, I suppose
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sariona Tech: disabled already.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: then no
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: is mccp working for you?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sariona Tech: yes
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sariona Tech: I think I'm going to uninstall and reinstall zmud.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: won't hurt
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sariona Tech: Not really sure what else to do here.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hmm
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: sorry
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wrath of Aarioch Tech: She says it's ok... she's just frustrated.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wrath of Aarioch Tech: Said she's gonna reinstall zmud and see if it works better second time around.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wrath of Aarioch Tech: I can't figure it out either.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tweeke Tech: anyone know of a good repop script for zmud?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: if i have a variable containing the string "open n;n", is there a function to expand the variable so that it sends it to the mud as two separate commands?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: #EXEC ar should do it
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: #EXEC ~ar should do it
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: #EXEC var should do it
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: that worked, thanks
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: np :)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skinner Tech: figure Vista has similar "Return last working system" than XP right?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: like system restore? let me check
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skinner Tech: i.e. just boot the computer and press.Function key F5 ?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skinner Tech: (dont remember offhand if it was f5, dont have to do those too often, luckily ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: there's a system restore, and a menu when you shut down your pc unnaturally to select safe mode and stuff
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyridis Tech: f8 maybe
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: repair my pc option on the install disc
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: only costs 13 bucks for a 64 bit version of windows when you buy premium
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: they only include the 64 bit disc in ultimate, which is 100 bucks more
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Little Alhena Tech: anyone has a clue abt how to hack flash games ? Couldn't get anything with tsearch
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Onenmaru Tech: yes, yes i do
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Onenmaru Tech: are you trying dragonfable?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Onenmaru Tech: because if that happens to be your game, i have a massive table of hacks for it
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Onenmaru Tech: that i can share :)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Onenmaru Tech: i will be back later, if you want, i can show you how to use tsearch to it's full potential :]
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Onenmaru waves happily.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Hey guys, I'm on an SSH connection to my own laptop ... trying to get X forwarding to play nice.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: But it claims there was some error locking the .Xauthority file, how do I fix that?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Do I have to turn off the X on my host?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: Trurien:  You shouldn't have to turn off X, I think.  Let me dig around on google.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: Are you using the -X option on the ssh command?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Ross - sorry... I was kept away by the phone.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I am not using SSH proper... I'm doing it through PuTTY. Because I'm stuck on Windows Vista.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I get errors like MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 data did not match, etc.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: trurien, afaik putty can
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: trurien, afaik putty can't do x11 forwarding on its own
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Henriken Tech: hello can someone help me with my mush client. I keep getting an error that says access to program files/mushmud etc denied. then I see, world file saved in the Mud window. this has started to happen after i added a few aliases
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatale Elliden Tech: anyone using macbook here?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Any idea how you can allow an internal network computer to be visible on the internet? I would like to SSH to my home computer...
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: use ipv6
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: And ... how might I configure my router to do that?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: what router hast thou?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: IPV6 is not necessary unless you are getting a NAT address from your ISP
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: First, you laugh your fool head off at the thought that your upstream is giving you v6 routability...
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Erikson: done...
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: ...  that pretty well completes the process.  Congratulations!
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: 6to4 is a magic word
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: if you get something other than 10.x or 172.x or 192.168.x from your ISP, then just use port forwarding on your router
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Any other solutions? I've got a WAN IP.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I've tried. But I can't seem to forward correctly.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: you mean a routable ip?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I have a WCG200. It is accessible to the public at x.y.z.a.. and I've managed to log in and configure the port forwarding.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Linksys WCG200, that is.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: so what's the problem?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: if you need a dns name, try dyndns.org or the likes
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I can't seem to connect to it even without the DNS name... tried the IP. It said refused connection on port 22.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: can you forward something like port 10022 to your local ip, port 22, and try connecting to 10022 fromthe outside?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Well, OK, let's say we have computer A on my network, behind the router. Router has address 111.222.33.44. I enable portforwarding on computer A (the 192.168.0.A ip) for ports 22 to 22.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: you mean you enable forwarding on the router for computer a, right?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yup.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: anyway, the router probably has port 22 taken by it's own ssh daemon
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: so try forwarding 1.2.3.4:10022 to 192.168.0.123:22
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: then connect to 1.2.3.4:10022
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Which would mean I'd at least be able to connect to the router on port 22, right? Let me try.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: it depends...
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Bbl... anyway, how might I try the forwarding thing you mentioned? Also through the router config pages, right?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: yes!
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: And do these Port Triggering options have anything to do with anything...
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: I don't think so
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: try disabling "firewall" and other options, temporarily at least
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatale Elliden Tech: anyone uses a macbook to mud here/
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: People use MacBooks?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: yes
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: They do, I believe.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: well macbooks are just PCs now
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: so yeah
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: Weird.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: not really, people like owning flashy laptops
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: No, they're Apple-approved parts on an x86 platform.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: an expensive pc at that
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: like how they like owning flashy cars
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grasshacker Tech: And cars that work.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: and cars that have graphics chips that overheat just like everybody else's cars? although that's not apple's fault
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: nvidia sold them some duff chips
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: nVidia sold everyone some duff chips
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: in zmud I am trying to setup something that when i type in 'potbag' in a command it substitutes a number of a aardbag. I setup a var named 'potbag' with a value of the bag# but that doesn't work. Any ideas?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do an oninput trigger
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and not an alias
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: ok will try that
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but know that if you "ftalk I put your aura in my potbag", it'll switch that out as well
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: #var {potbag} {(nr)};#alias {potbag} {examine otbag}
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: #var {potbag} {(nr)};#alias {potbag} {examine @potbag}
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not sure what you're trying to achieve, but it's a simple solution that should give you a general idea
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: though if you open it up, you'll no doubt find a pcmcia card in a holder
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: lol
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: just trying to save a TP, so like if i type in 'get item potbag' if will substitute the nember of my aardbag in place of potbag
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Tigernuts.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, creedos, you can use #ONINPUT for that
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what dag posted would let you examine the bag, but not put stuff, get stuff, etc
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: ok, this is sad, but in zmud there is no graphical way to add #oninput but will read about it in help file to try to understand it, thnx for the help
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: iirc you can approximate oninput by wildcarding the alias, but I'm not positive
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: there is, do a normal add trigger and in the options select input
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: ok i saw the command input option is that what i want?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: or just input
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i use #alias {fetch} {get %1 @aardbag}
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, dag, but then you're using 13 different aliases, when a single oninput does it
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: in the optiona tab, under the "type" drop down box, select "command input"
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you need to remember different syntaxes from normal
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: so i take it that my understanding of variables isn't correct, i was thinking  that by setting potbag to a # it would just substitute potbag for that number any time it saw it
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: with oninput, you type "get jade potbag" and it sends "get jade (12345)"...you type "put jade potbag" and it sends "put jade (12345)"
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: thats exactly what i want
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: maybe you should read the help for oninput triggers to see how they're used
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: yep that's what im doin now
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: when i setup a #ONINPUT trigger with potbag as the trigger and the bag# as the output it just outputs the bag# andfergets about the 'get item' part. When I use #SUB it inputs it into the mud correctly(from what i see) but then tells me it doesn't see bag#. what am i missing? this can wait till after double
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: just so ya see what I am doing here is what i typed to get the message it doesn't see that # '#ONINPUT [potbag] (292223)'
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: my wife just pointed out something, that potbag is shortfor potionbag...not something else, hehe
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we know :-)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try #ONINPUT {(*) potbag (*)} {%1 (12345) %2}
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: copy/pasted what you typed and it came back 'you do not see a (292223) here'
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: lol
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: it came back with p otbag not the number
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hehe, but your post to tech automatically swapped with the number?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: yep and it also does it with just what i had before but it insists it doesnt see it
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: also tried just bag and aardbag and it also says it doesn't see it
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: it echoes back what is being inputted on the trigger and that is what it is supposed to input, for some reason it just doesn't "see" it as a bag or sumtin
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: tried it with parsing on and off made no difference
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you sure you're carrying your bag and have the right serial??
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: yep when I just type it in manually it works
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: but when the trigger types it in it doesn't work
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: got it done, it was moving the first ( from the number back a space so it looked like this %1( 123456) once I put '' around the (123456) it now works, go figure
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, wonder if ~( and ~) would have fixed that as well
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: no idea, will tell ya in a sec
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: using poorly documented languages is so much fun
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: using a  just in front of the bag# () like this works (123456)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: erm they didnt show up lol
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I've never used zmud, just read people like ozzy/forestseer/charneus on channels and talked to them in tells for clarifications on syntax & behavior stuff
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: how did you get yer tilde's to show?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hehe, for you, turn off parsing
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the computer in the bottom corner ;-)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: ahh ok, thnx for your help Abe, really appreciate it
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: zmud uses them as escapes
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: hrmm, only 15gig free even after a tidyup. I can forsee a couple of games uninstallations in my future
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: Or a new hard drive :D
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: too noisy
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you mean planes amulet
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mis
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warder Tech: how is everyone doing tonight?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warder Tech: does anyone know of a hard disk utility that'll check and rewrite the heads on a HDD to factory(BTW already tried manufacturer and their HDD utility doesn't work with vista 64-bit) 
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: the heads?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warder Tech: well I guess that may not be the correct way to word it. I want to reset the drive to factory default as if it were just purchased.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warder Tech: having hard drive issues and I can't use manufacturers program to check if disk is faulty because it doesn't work on vista 64 bit, sent them an email but waiting sux
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: plenty of stuff out there that will do it
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: best set of utils can be found on Hirens Boot CD - grab a torrent for it
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: can you describe the issues?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warder Tech: HD is 160 GB, but in disk management only registers as 31.5 GB, shows as not initialized,w hen I try to initialize I get errors
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warder Tech: HD isn't making any odd sounds 
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: was that you here a few days ago? :)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warder Tech: HD has windows XP pro on it, and I have it connected through usb external case
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warder Tech: yes
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: ah, welcome back :)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warder Tech: still working on it, I downloaded GParted and took nearly 24 hours to scan the 31.5 GBs and it didn't give me anything useful
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: Alas, it seems your computer is infected with the Oprah Winfrey virus
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why don't you just delete the partition, reinitialise and start again?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warder Tech: thanks.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warder Tech: I would if I knew how
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: Your 160 GB hard drive has shrunk to 31 GB, but dont worry, it will slowly expand back to 160 GB given some time
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warder Tech: LOL starling
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: it's winter, it's cold, everything's shrinking
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: maybe if he takes the cover off the drive, he'll find a pcmcia one sitting in some form of adaptor
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: my adsl line has shrunk from 2.5 to 1.2Mbit/s :(
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: haha
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warder Tech: the HD was dropped while in the old computer, and then the computer wouldn't work so I bought a new computer but cannot install it on new computer because I have no ribbon cables or power cords and the new computer has SATA, so bought an external usb case
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: there a pcmcia card inside every pcmcia
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: honestly, grab Hirens Boot CD  - it has the tools you need
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warder Tech: looking up on isohunt now for hirens
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: yeah, hiren's ncie
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: nice
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: grab the latest one, 9.7 I think
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: oh, cool, someone's made hiren into a pxe toolkit
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warder Tech: ouch this'll be forever downloading on my crappy connection lol :) thanks for the info I'll try it when it finishes downloading
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warder Tech: while I have some people active do any of you dabble with XNA?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: as in microsoft?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warder Tech: nod XNA-Game Studio Express, working through a tutorial and adding sound to it gives me a file not found error but the file is in the correct location and the code is word for word as it is in the tutorial, and not having any luck on google finding similar issues, I'm sure it's something simple but i'm being blond today.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: do you really want to waste your time on something like that?..
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warder Tech: on something like what? programming, or something that microsoft has developed?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: something like xna...
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: if you've got a job proposition with it as a requirement, then suit yourself. If you just want to learn something new, pursue open technologies.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warder Tech: I like XNA what I have managed to mess with. Though sound is new to me.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warder Tech: nah, no job proposition that would be nice though.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: tinker with open stuff, get into an open project, you'll have a stack of propositions within a year
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: haha.  i did a runto expecting one area and found myself going to another, and almost hit ctrl+c to try to cancel it :p
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Hmmm.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Perhaps someone here knows.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Creating a database for CMUD (which uses the same database structure in zMUD), I'm trying to capture the name of an item to store it as the name. After some fiddling around, I've finally managed to get it to accept pipe characters (|) in the database. However, in order to do so, I've had to quote the string. Now, in running the script, it stores the name as "||| blah blah blah |||" (including the quotes). Stripping the quotes don't work, as it makes the name capture screw up...
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Any solutions to fix it so that I can capture things like "\|/ Auspices whatever \|/" ?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seasoned Justme Tech: ok randomly turned on something that shows up in light blue in zmud "TICK IN 5 SECONDS." it is not autotick - any ideas how to turn off?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: its in general
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: i think, tick timer it's called
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gercoh Tech: Hey, anyone know anything about TinTin++?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: a zmud question - whats the parameter that will return the value captured in * ?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: depends on how many * you capture
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Takayuchi Tech: %1 %2 %3 etc in order of capture
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: hmmm %1 wasn't returning anything.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: thanks hangon.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you probably didn't surround it with ()
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: that's right thanks.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: * doesn't capture anything on its own. () captures.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: boy the mudside spellup script sure takes a lot of effort out of clientside scripts.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: does it?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: only if you're satisfied with the limitations of what it does
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: most clientside scripts are already written
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'd think that THAT would be the reducing factor
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimamatl Tech: there is a mud side spellup script?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's great as a basic utility, it won't replace scripts
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: kinda Chimamatl
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: it is.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: help spellup
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: no need for 'bloated' client side scripts now is what I mean.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: define bloated
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: I know better to go down that path with you Fiendish :P
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish shrugs helplessly.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the command won't keep you spelled up automatically, with knowledge of recoveries and position, like the mushclient script for instance
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: indeed not
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the command is a godsend for newer players, tho
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: newer players should use mushclient
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: it just spells me up when I need to that's all I wanted.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: newer players should, but having the link to the mush spellup script on aard's website the way it is is horrible for newer players
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I agree with that
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: considering it requires other files
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it were a link to nick's forum post it'd be great
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and that the server is misconfigured
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so that the browser tries to open xml files instead of save them
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but I think mushclient.com has the same error there
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I don't think that's a server misconfig, it's a browser behavior
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no it's a server config
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you can define how different kinds of files are handled on the server side
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if server's mime settings are correct, browser will still try to parse
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can handle how files are presented in mime types...not what the browser does with them
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you can define xml files to be application/octet-stream
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, that would be called misconfiguring your server :P
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it makes it do exactly what you want it to do
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, by breaking mime
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: xml should be set to be the mime types registered for xml
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no, because then your browser will try to interpret it
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: which is not what you want
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's a browser config option, as it should be
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: not in this case
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: in this case it clearly shouldn't be
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: blatantly lying about mime type isn't how it should be
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there's no need to have to tell someone to right click and download the file and then field 50 questions when players don't do that and get confused
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's better for everyone to lie to the browser
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: because the browser makes the wrong decision
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: correct, there's no need...it should be zipped
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there's no need for it to be zipped either
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and not screw the server into not ever actually being able to use xml
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the server never needs to use xml
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: everyone understands zip
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: says you
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: zip is an extra step
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I guess you own the servers involved then
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: people barely know how to turn their computers on
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: everything on teh intarwebs is zip, everyone gets it
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's still an extra step
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: you know
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: there's this little header
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: called content-disposition
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: which would shut you both up
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <sarcasm> Forestseer looks around and whistles innocently.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: my content is ornery
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: and there's no reason you cant set the mime on a single file
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: of course your content is ornery...you prefer to misconfigure a webserver :P
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's not misconfigured if it achieves the purpose perfectly
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bullshit
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: and you prefer to go to extremes and configure entire servers to serve xml as applications instead of the individual files concerned
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: standards exist for a reason
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: he does have you there Fiendish
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: look at microsoft
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: and what they do to standards
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: (though they've been getting better)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I look at microsoft and see that they interpret xml not in the way that I want the users to see
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there's no reason to force users to unzip files if they don't need to
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: or right click
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the content disposition thing would work too. I'd forgotten about that rfc
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: anyone know of a way to get multi-touch on an xp/vista box
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: is there anything out there yet?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: install windows 7
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <sarcasm> Forestseer looks around and whistles innocently.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: lol
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: other than that!
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: tech just freakin got vista on here, blah
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: and dont all releases of 7 have the destruction date built in?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: charneus, around?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can always buy MS surface ;-)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: any nice stat scripts that pop up in a different window for zmud?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serrate Timeghost Tech: does anyone know why skype makes 5+ connections when making a call and keeps them open afterwards?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirian Tech: does it reuse them on a second call?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serrate Timeghost Tech: no clue, but why 5+ connections for one call?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serrate Timeghost Tech: I only checked netstat, didn't look into tcpdump yet
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirian Tech: no idea
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serrate Timeghost Tech: looks like it's just keeping those connections in ESTABLISHED but not doing anything w/ them when no call is active...
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serrate Timeghost Tech: why so many is what puzzles me
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirian Tech: hah, I think that thera are a lot of things that deserve more attention :)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirian Tech: maybe that's somehow faster
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serrate Timeghost Tech: depends. Just now one connection dropped (skype node went down?), and it made a new one to another node :P
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: maybe they be keepin tabs on ya... 8-)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alturis Tech: i logged on using the aardwolf client and now when i use my other client it gives me a huge strings of stats and things after my health prompt
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: statmon
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alturis Tech: thank you
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lechter hits the Easy Button.  That was easy!
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alturis Tech: it still shows things like chan ch=tech though before channels 
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: Help Tag
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: is there a saff tag yet?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus sits down and thinks deeply. 
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: How do you reset a datarec to 0 in z/CMUD? I'm tired of my records starting from the last point I cleared it out. :\
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: maybe by using ado
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what causes that really long pause in logging onto windows when you have a wireless nic installed?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Meh. I'd use ADO, but I haven't the faintest clue how to start.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Heh. I just found out. :P
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I think. :\
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: there's a short tutorial on zuggsoft.com, using that i was able to set the portal costs dynamically, however the path algorithm that zmud uses seems to be fscked
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: the path algorithm is rather nice imho :P
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: works fine for me
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: it's fscked alright, eg i have set portals to academy and recall (academy portal and garbage) for some reason it chooses to use the academy portal rather than garbage when i want to go to recall
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: so set it up to always use academy and then go down
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: problem solved
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: but i don't want it to use academy when garbage is more direct
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: i sort of worked around that by setting academy to higher cost, that worked for a while, now suddenly it's choosing to use academy again
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorvez Tech: does anybody know if its possible to get a client up and running aardwolf from your ps3?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: You can run linux off of a ps3, and you have plenty of options after that.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorvez Tech: thanks
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: I'm running MUSHclient using crossover, but it's not fully compatible.  I can't use a lot of the help stuff and some things like opening notepad (mush has it's own) will cause the program to close.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: don't know how different crossover is from wine, but in wine set the compatability to win98 and it should work, i had the same problem
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: Ahh, I never though to do that.  I am pretty sure wine is just like a free version of crossover. or it's based off of it or something
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: wine is not a free version of crossover, crossover is wine with some commercial enhancements
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: Ahh, yeah that works
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there was also an issue that the helpfile plugin (for Aard help files) in the Aardmush doesn't actually work with the version of MUSH in the Aard download...
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the Aard help plugin needs the miniwindows, which didn't come until .34
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hail! Ceasar nods.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hail! Ceasar nods.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hail! Ceasar Tech: I aleady know about Silverstein :P
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hail! Ceasar Tech: mis
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hail! Ceasar Tech: I have no idea why I confuse channels that are the same color
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xangareef Tech: hello?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xangareef Tech: Anyone who can help me real quick?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: Whatcha need?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not without knowing the problem
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xangareef Tech: Ah, I was mostly checking to see if anyone was here.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nobody of consequence...
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xangareef Tech: I used "chats echo off' and it worked fine, but when I relogged, I had to type it again...
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xangareef Tech: Is there a way to save it somehow, so I don't have to type it every time I log on?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: what client?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try file -> save world details
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUSHclient from the aard site
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xangareef Tech: Yup, that's the client.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xangareef Tech: I just did that, so I'll see if it works...
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: chats echo off is a command from the chat capture plugin in that client ;-)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: You can try that and if it doesn't work, then you can send it to do it when you login.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xangareef Tech: test
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xangareef Tech: Nope, didn't work.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: What is a good, free program to remove malware on a family member's PC?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: haha too much porn
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: They have something that seems to be blocking network connections to sites such as Windows update and lavasoft.com.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Maybe, Tamariel. I'll ask my grandma next time I'm over.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Rathik: a-squared is pretty good.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Might want to check the hosts file, though.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I was just reading on pcmag.com that they don't recommend a-squared... but I'll consider it
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Heh. Spybot S&D is another good one, for the most part, too.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: for anti-malware, try hijackthis, and theres a bunch of sysinternals tools too
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: but you have to know what you're doing to use them
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Not to mention Malwarebytes.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods at <sarcasm> Forestseer.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: This malware blocks the install of Spybot S&D too, so I'll have to try to install it on a stick to begin with
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: (iirc, the sysinternals ones have autolookups now)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: hijackthis doesnt need install if u get older versions
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: standalone exe
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: neither do sysinternals 
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: have you tried rolling back your system?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: however
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommers Tech: Second on checking the hosts file.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: the sysinternals utilities are downloaded via the microsoft site ;P
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: could possibly have routing entries too
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Rathik: Check to make sure hosts isn't hijacked. Go to C:\Windows\Drivers\etc\ and look for the 'hosts' file. It should really only have 127.0.0.1 -> localhost listed there, unless you want to redirect traffic elsewhere.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I will give that a shot Sommers/Charneus
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik rapidly nods twice at Alt. Helpa Charneus, in complete agreement.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: That's a great idea..  didn't occur to me when I was there
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: ping microsoft.com
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: what ip does it ping at?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I'm not on the infected computer now
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: k, well, if you ping it and it's going to no-where or 127.0.0.1 or 0.0.0.0 or similar, check hosts then check route print
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: otherwise, not then
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: What's route print?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Due to the Windows Update, yeah.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: prints out routing data
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: basically can tell it that microsoft ip is an alias for a different ip kinda thing
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: (for this purpose)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: The error message for the blocked sites in Firefox was "connection was reset" instead of "page not found" though
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: either hosts or routing can cause that
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: If it was the hosts file pointing to localhost, then it would be page not found
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: no
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: unless they run a web server
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: and if they're in this situation, i doubt they do :P
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Err, unable to connect
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: or connection refused
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommers Tech: Yeah, I got a failed to connect error in FF
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: i got some random site
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <sarcasm> Forestseer looks around and whistles innocently.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Thanks all
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus grins evilly.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Now I just have to convince them that their computer is really still broken so I can fix it..
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommers Tech: Haha.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: when in doubt, a hammer ought to do it
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommers Tech: That's the REALLY difficult part.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: been looking for a nie stat script like the one in mushclient but for zmud, someone suggested zuggsoft but after searching therei haven't found anything or am searching for the wrong keywords. Anyone use a statscript for zmud they wouldn't mind sharing?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: try help www and go to atreidess' site
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: finger atreidess
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: ya i tried his but am not very good at scripting so couldn't see a way to put all that info intoa seperate window
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: it all just came up in my main window when i typed stats
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: when it asks me what default channel do i want statshowto be, what does that mean?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: statshow will by default report to something like grouptalk
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: thats what
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It means what channel do you want it to default to.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: If you put gt, statshow will show stats on gt always.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Unless you put an argument.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: ok will play with it abit and see if i can getit to output to a stats window
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: anyone ever program on a mac?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: sure
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: erm, for mac osx
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: im lookin for a descent app with nice gui interface similar to visual studio
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: it's called bootcamp
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: drag and drop to make simple quick guis is my ideal scenario
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: wanting create osx apps forest
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: there's ur problem!
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: not creating pc builds
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: osx apps, you'll need 17 designers, and an amature script kiddie!
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: amateur too!
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: so c# for mac apps is a no go
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: fund a script by jacko that is almost exactly what i want but it doesn't have  my alignment in it and also doesn't seem to be dockable. any way to do either of these? it is just using the regular stat window in zmud so not even sure if that is dockable. tried to dock it with AlT but no luck
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blailus Tech: every window is dockable in zMud, make sure you have Lock Layout unlocked under Layout
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: that was the problem, ty
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: how about adding alignment to it? any ideas?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Learning how to script is a good start. *inno*
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: hah
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You might be interested in AardDevil, though.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus looks around and whistles innocently.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: aardeveil is banned
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Banned?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus quirks an eyebrow.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I know several people who use it. :P
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: heh knew that would get looks
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: will google it
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Boot me, I'm using it!
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: im just chimming into a conversation due to lack of attention
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: im going back to my corner
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: ignore huckleberry
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Wish I had some source code, tho.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: mis.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: dont we all
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: that aarddevil looks awesome but get error 'qtinf.dll not found' when running the exe, and after i set it up manually and type in 'adini' it doesn't bring up a window like the readme says, it just shows me some stats in the main window
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Hmm.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovefoxxx Kis Tech: hi, does anyone know what I should do if my computer refuses to start up, monitor can't detect input but like it lights up but hugeass whirling noise
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovefoxxx Kis Tech: it keeps doing this but like after pressing on the on/off button a zillion times it usually starts up but now it doesnt
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: Replace gas turbine engine with standard power supply
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: clearly you've worn out your button
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Hard drive failure, maybe.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: does it shut off randomly?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torghay Tech: powersupply
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovefoxxx Kis Tech: it used to, but not after I started vacuuming it
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ilidar laughs out loud.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovefoxxx Kis Tech: and change it to solitary socket
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: prolly overheated your processor
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Power supply could be it, too.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovefoxxx Kis Tech: so what shold I do?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: have you checked the insides?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovefoxxx Kis Tech: I dunno how to open it :P
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It doesn't turn on at all?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Take it to a computer shop, then. ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovefoxxx Kis Tech: it turns on, but the monitor doesnt reflect it
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: ahh hell no, get a new one
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Buy a video card. :P
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: you ensured all your cables are properly seated?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: its not a monitor problem?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovefoxxx Kis Tech: I just bought it less than 6 months ago and it keeps giving me probs
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Or swap out monitors.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovefoxxx Kis Tech: nope monitor is fine
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovefoxxx Kis Tech: there's loud whirling noise from cpu
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: does it beep when starting up?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovefoxxx Kis Tech: normally when it decides it will work there is much less noise
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovefoxxx Kis Tech: no beeps
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovefoxxx Kis Tech: just loud loud whirling
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: ensure all cables are seated properly (take them out, put them back in) and try swapping monitors
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: if you don't want to take the side-panel off, there isn't much more you can/should do
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovefoxxx Kis Tech: you don't think it's a dust problem anymore?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovefoxxx Kis Tech: so I should check the power supply?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: be sure the fan isn't full of dust
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovefoxxx Kis Tech: yeah I just vaccumed it and checked it was clean
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: when it does work, be sure back up everything, its dying for sure
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovefoxxx Kis Tech: so how? everytime I bring it to the shop it works fine, the guy is starting to think I am stalking him
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovefoxxx Kis Tech: bleh, I Can't believe this piece of shit is like brand new =p
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: no warranty?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovefoxxx Kis Tech: should have
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: trade it in for another one then
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovefoxxx Kis Tech: I wonder if they would, ok, thanks
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: Downloaded qtinf.dlland put it in the AD folder, got everything set up andworking great except Qp(Questpoints?)is reporting wrong, any ideas?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: How do you get a trigger to trip when a #Var hits a certain #? I am using '#IF eal-Potions < 10' as my trigger name but that's not doing it. trying to get it to play a sound when my heal potions fall below 10.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: put that check in the script that decrements pots
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: ty
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: perfect thnx again
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: this laptop is RED
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: how cool is that?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vardamir Tech: not cooler than pink
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: is too
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: is there a mirror of atreidess's script page? can't seem to access it
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tapirath Tech: anyone using kildclient in linux?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Palladius Tech: is there an aardwolf forum?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: type forum
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: didja try "help forum", or the website (depending on which type of forum you're looking for)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Palladius Tech: I can't find a web forum :/ could anyone be so kind to paste a link to it for me ?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: www.aardwolf.com
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: Do you just want to exchange ideas and converse with others about Aardwolf, or are you specifically looking for a phpBB3-based web page?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Palladius Tech: the latter
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nothing about forum has anything to do with phpbb3 :P
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: phpbb3 is the most commonly implemented forum system on the web at the moment
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: well, it and its older versions / variations
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: what Lechter was talking about was the generic idea of forum
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bullshit
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <sarcasm> Forestseer looks at you with a pout on his face, reminding you of a six-year old.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: that's it, i'm pking you!
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gofer it :P
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: can you come to my cmaze plz?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: whats more common, Abelinc?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Palladius Tech: >.< nevermind.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there is no "most popular" forum backend...there's a metric buttload of options, and 1/3rd of them claim to be the most popular/largest installed base...they're all based on absolutely bogus "metrics"
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: whether counting downloads, registered users, forum posts, number of websites using it, etc, the metrics are highly flawed...there is no Net-wide index of installations, and not all forums are Net-accessible, as intrawebs use them as well, so even doing something like a google for URL patterns wouldn't suffice
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for palladius, you still haven't told us what you're looking to accomplish...there's the wiki, the blog, the main website, the in-game forums, there's non-Lasher-run-but-Aard-dedicated websites containing forums, etc...what info are you looking to read and/or what are you looking to contribute
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Palladius Tech: I just wanted to see what questions do people ask and what answers do they get. It's about learning.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you don't want forums
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: You complain about metrics, so what do you consider to be more popular? 
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Palladius Tech: then what do I want ?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: forums aren't about learning, they're about discussions :P
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: you learn from the discussions ... ?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you CAN, yhogurk
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Palladius Tech: sure
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but discussions don't have to be about learning
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: read the history on the q/a channel, read the in-game forums/boards, check out the wiki
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Palladius Tech: thx
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the best way to learn is to just keep the channels on and read them
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Palladius Tech: way too spammy
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so many people ignore the q/a channel until they need to ask a question...then they ask the same question that has been answered repeatedly
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, then ignore my advice...you don't want to learn
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Palladius Tech: ok
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you can't be bothered to read people giving answers, then you might as well drop the act now
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: There is no "stickied FAQ" at the top of some web page giving all the answers to life, the universe, and everything within Aard.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: mind you, if you take apart abelinc's advice, you'll find a pcmcia card inside in a holder
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'd be one long-ass page :-)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Palladius Tech: lol
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so my advice is like the majority of wireless devices :-)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: Spotty and unreliable?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wow, lechter only buys really cheap units
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: flaky and incompatible
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he must buy from tigernuts :-)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eternal Anguish Tech: sounds like my ex-wife...
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Honestly, Abelinc looks around for Chuft's comments
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: Buying from Tigernuts is cheap and easy, what can I say.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: dodgy motherboards too?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: now his MOM on the other hand...not so cheap ;-)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: filthy lies, i never sell anything cheap
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but still easy }:>
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You fluffle Tigernuts mercilessly, making his fur a terrible mess.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wow, tigernuts' mom is the new hitler, godwin has adapted :-)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: she has the mustache for it
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You snicker with him about your shared secret.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ebay's new rating system blows
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I has teh internets!
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: STOP CLOGGING MY TUBES!
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tapirath Tech: I looked at customization help, sorry If I missed it but how can I increase the number of lines that server sends me before prmpting me for (ENTER) (TOP) (BACK) etc...
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tapirath Tech: is that even possible?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: Help Scroll should inform you
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alturis Tech: is anyone familiar with JMC?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: Jax Money Crew? :p
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alturis Tech: jaba mud client actually I like all my settings on here i'm just trying to find a way to catch all the channels on here
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: why does the echo command work on clients?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Are you talking about the Aardwolf command called echo?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: no
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: What do you mean, then?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: like echo (meesage)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: and itl say it
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: He's talking about the io streams - output, error and input ....
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I assume he's talking about the command in help echo, but I don't know what he means by work on clients.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: echo (from the client) is where your input goes straight onto the output instead of sending it to the mud
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: other stuff (not the echo) goes from input down the wires to the mud, the mud does something, and sends back the output
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik gets a blank look on his face.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: the rest of you can geekify that more as you see fit :D
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: ohhh i see
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I don't know of any MUD client where you can type 'echo <message>' and have a local echo without sending it to the MUD
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: bottom line is the mudclient's echo is done on your computer - nothing to do with the mud
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Don't be obtuse - try #echo on zmud?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: or is it #say?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blailus Tech: its #show
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: But he didn't say #echo, he said echo
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: hehe - well spot the guy who's not using zmud
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blailus Tech: #say is if you dont want it parsed, #show is if you do
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: All of those work, actually, but #echo will activate triggers while #say will not.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blailus Tech: didn't know that #echo worked too =)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: Have to be careful with #echo though, because you can get into trouble if it interacts badly with your triggers ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: there is also a mud-side echo command
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: hmm?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: if %input%== google goto gg2
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hail! Ceasar Tech: I'm using aard mush.  When I try to select text in the window with my mouse, I get a message box that says "Cannot open the Clipboard".
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hail! Ceasar Tech: any ideas on what that could be?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Your secretery stole it.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hail! Ceasar Tech: I have no secretary.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: There's a plugin that allows you to copy text as you highlight it instead of just selecting it and hitting ctrl+c.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Oh.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Maybe your boss stole it.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Apparently, your system doesn't have a clipboard. :P
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Obviously, the secretary not only stole it, but stole themselves too!
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hail! Ceasar Tech: I have a clipboard :P  I've used it before, too.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon goes ooOOooOOoo at Not an Imm Erikson.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hail! Ceasar Tech: Charneus:  You think I need to get that plugin, or you think it's causing the problem?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I think you either need to fix your clipboard or disable that plugin. :P
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hail! Ceasar Tech: "Allows you to use CTRL+C for the output window if 'All typing goes to command window' is turned on."  that one?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Hmmm... not sure. Might be.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hail! Ceasar Tech: OK.  This is strange.  It only happens when I select text quickly.  If I do it slowly it doesn't.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Weird... maybe it's just slow on accessing the clipboard, and doing it quickly doesn't give it time to register.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hail! Ceasar Tech: Disbling plugin didn't help... hmm, I'll run a virus scan I guess...
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Now it's my turn. I'm trying to install the perl module HTTP::Status, using the cpan module from the command line. Near the end, when it's running make test, I get: local/chunked.............IO::Socket::INET: connect: Connection timed out       propagated at local/chunked.t line 127.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Anyone have any ideas?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: eat a donut?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: No one?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Onenmaru Tech: anyone here know how to store part of a string cought by a trigger in a variable in mushclient?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Yeah
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: How you would do it depends on your trigger as well as your scripting language though
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Set your trigger to Send to Script and in the Send, put SetVariable("variable_name", "%1")
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Onenmaru Tech: ok, thanks!
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: That's the basic idea behind it... like I said, it varies based on your trigger and scripting language.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Onenmaru Tech: makes a lot more sense now, i'll check the function chart
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: easiest way is to use the portal
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: mis
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Hey, Rathik, ever get granny's computer fixed?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Nope - haven't had the chance, yet ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Well, get over there and fix it! :P I'm curious to what the problem is. :P
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}-SABU- Arystul Tech: anyone have one of those dell netbooks?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: which one?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: I'm using a latitude D820.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: whoops...finally read that...netbooks, not notebooks.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hail! Ceasar twiddles his thumbs because the virus scan he started an hour ago is still running.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: whats a virus scan?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: It's like a cat scan, except it scans virii instead.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It's one of those things that people use when they are n00bs, Forestseer.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: mmm, my cats never liked being scanned
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus runs away from Hail! Ceasar in utter terror and horror!
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: You must not've done it right, Forestseer. Did you stick them on the scanner bed and put the flat top down on them?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: naah, i use my fax to scan
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: ...
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Ahh.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: grab the cat by the tail, feed it into the rollers, and let the fax do the rest
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Yeah, you must have a bad fax machine though...
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: oh it is, this one time it ate a baby
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: The cats usually don't complain afterwards when I do it
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}-SABU- Arystul Tech: wondering l
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}-SABU- Arystul Tech: oops
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: when you create a new zmud room, what do you type? #look? ook? not working for me heh
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: I use #look
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: make sure mapping is enabled, though, and not just in follow mode.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Make sure the mapper is configured correctly, too. You may want to make use of the roomtags.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hail! Ceasar Tech: heh, virus scan finally finished, turned up nothing (except some cookies), ok, so that's not it.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: It could still be the cookies. Do you have the latest Nabisco driver installed?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Isn't that Keebler 4.3 now?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Obyron, what did I tell you about staying in your closet?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: i prefer the keebler driver for cookies
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus snickers with Bast about their shared secret.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Keebler doesn't follow open standards. :(
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: true, but that's what you get when you hire a bunch of elves
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: And Nabisco makes Oreos, which are more win than any other cookie.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Although I'm partial to the Oreo 2.1 drivers, too. They keep leaving me full of cream inside, stuffed, and screwed!
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: In zmud how do I get a menu pop out on right click? i can get just a right click command working but need to lean em up abit and put them into catrgories.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: there's a setting on the menu element that you can specify a parent element in
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: forget its exact name
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: I got it, was an option i had to check
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: in zmud, how do I #IF #TRIGGER, so if a trigger is received then it does something else it just ignores it. The trigger here being a line of text received from a hunt command.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: I can write the trigger seperate, but then it doesn't stop adding a # to my hnum in the original trigger, that make any sense?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Anyone have experience compiling mit-scheme? I'm getting an error that results from MACHINE_TYPE no being defined, but nowhere does it define it.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: Well, that's probably the reason you're getting the error.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: HappyDog Madcatz runs away from Apprentice Oladon in utter terror and horror!
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon grins evilly.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: No doubt. But these are MIT people - they're supposed to know what they're doing
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: First it checks to see if "__ppc__" is defined, and if it is, then it defines MACHINE_TYPE accordingly
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: But nowhere does it define __ppc_
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: __ppc__ rather
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: The compiler should.  That smells like one of those auto-defines.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: What's back in links?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: It doesn't. I used grep... but anyway, I just added a line to define it myself, and it seems to be working so far :D
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alluring Alluran Tech: shoulda used grope
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alluring Alluran Tech: can usually get you what you want
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alluring Alluran Tech: in the short term anyways
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Ah ha! It was z.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon looks at Rathik and goes "Hmmmm."
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Or the left arrow key!
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon grins evilly.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon is successfully configuring mit-scheme.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon throws back her head and cackles with insane glee!
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: in zmud, how do i override the description of a room, or like redo it, like i would #look in a new room
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: eg i got a room in the right position, but it's got a blank description for some reason, how do i redo it
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: click on the magnifying glass in the map toolba
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: toolbar
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: hmm still blank, this room's messed up lol
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: make sure you're map editing mode of course
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: you mean the pencil mode yeah?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: yes
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: some rooms mess up the mapper, for those i just manually edit them (copy and paste)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: what do you do when you run into random exit mazes?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: if rooms can be distinguished by name or description i have a bunch of them but they're disconnected, then i use triggers based on name/description and #TELEPORT to place me into the correct room
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: how do you map a room you teleport to if you have to say something? eg say marble
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: is it >say marble ?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mauler Tech: anyone know how to get the shortcur to reappear in the mushlient?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mauler Tech: the bottun for it on the top of the window
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: any zmud map ppl here to answer a question or 2?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: i'll try
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: thanks, is there a way to map areas that need a pass? like buying a passport or ticket or something?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: like is it possible to get it to buy the pass automatically?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: yes, depends on how complicated it is ..., mostly you add the necessary commands in the "other com" field in the exits tab
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mauler Tech: talking to me?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: well for example if i want to buy a ticket in lands of legends and go to maime, how would i go about it?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: no, that was an answer for don :)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: legend is a bit more complicated, start with an easier example, in stardock to get across the ferry, you need to enter into the "other com" the following: "vis,buy ticket,open s,s"
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: i see, but i guess for land of legend that's too complicated
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: it's probably too complicated for you right now, i've done it using some triggers so it is possible
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: and it works from anywhere, i just type eg "go maine", it then checks whether i have enough money for ticket, then goes to ticket lady and buy ticket, then board train and leave at correct stop :)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: wuuu that sounds cool, i'm like mapping the individual zones first, is that easier? or should i map it all together?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audition Tech: I'm having an issue with the Aard MUSHClient not saving macros, something along the lines of "Unable to save arrd.mcl" pops up on occasion which I'm assuming is the problm but. Anyone know why that could be?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Totalia Tech: what kind of OS are you using?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: do you mean the individual "zones" of land of legends? it does really matter, as long as it's all coherent
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audition Tech: Vista, I tried running it what that admin thing they put on as well to make sure that wasn't the issue
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Totalia Tech: set it to run with XP properties then it should be good
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audition Tech: Okay, I'll try that and see how it goes.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: as for the different in mud areas do use individual zmud mapper zones for them, don't try to map the whole game using just 1 zone, it will be horrendously slow and unmanageable :)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audition Tech: That seems to have worked, I feel a bit lame it was something so simple, hah. Thank you.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: ya i meant the aardwolf zones as a whole, i'm doing it all seperate atm, like land of legends, art of melody etc, would it be hard if one day i wanted to string them together? in different zones of course, but would connecting them be hard?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: "stringing" them together means you need to map the continents too. no it's not hard to do, just tedious but worth it because then you can enjoy the full benefits of all the hardwork doing the mapping, eg you can use zmud's path thing to walk to the different areas taking advantage of any clan portals and other shortcuts
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: ah i see, provided you set them up in the first place right? how long did it take you to like map most of the mud?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: i sat for quite a while at level 1 saving up for aura and used the time to map, took about 1 month :)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: hehe but you can't map the harder areas at that lvl
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EvilTwin Tech: which language is Aardwolf coded in?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: c++
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: err C
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: sorry 
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: visual basic
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: an imm confirmed it's still in C on the newbie channel a couple of days ago
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EvilTwin Tech: wow, you can make a mud with VB?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: I'm sure you could make a MUD with Prolog if you really tried.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: why not? have a look at the listings on mud connector or something, there's a lot of weird languages used
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Palladius Tech: how does the mud keep track of which rooms are explored or not by any given player ??
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wrath of Aarioch Tech: It's saved on the individual pfile of each player.
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Palladius Tech: O_oo
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Palladius Tech: I see
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: does anyone know how i can change a exit destination room number in zmud mapping?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: yup
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: at least 2 people
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mardus Tech: my settings and edit window are separated... how to make them one window again?
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: depending on version, directly with sql or access would work, so long as it remained a valid primary key for the field
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: try holding alt down while moving them around to dock them
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: uh, for the table
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: if you go to the properties of the room
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: and go to its exits
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: and select the exit you want to change
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: and then click the # button
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: it lets you change it
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mardus Tech: ooh thanks:)
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: you may be able to right click and select change room or something too, or that may be new cmud only
T1/r4/2009-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: oh, sorry..you said exit dest, I thought you wanted to change a specific rooms vnum
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: so, does mushclient support triggers and aliases like zmud? or do i have to put it into a 'plugin'?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murn Tech: it does
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Onenmaru Tech: mushclient does trigers and alises.. look under configure
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: got it, just wasnt where i expected. thanks
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a "plugin" is just a packaged set of triggers/aliases
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: right
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's like a "class" in zmud
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i get to do something interesting this afternoon
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eternal Anguish Tech: so am i reading this right.. you have to have vista already installed in order to use the Windows 7 beta??
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if windows 7 is anything at all like vista, i won't bother
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: can it be worse?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eternal Anguish Tech: sure, but i was hoping to throw it on a spare and see it but if i have to have vista "the broken" then forget that...
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: if windows is anything like windows then i wouldn't bother
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tigernuts THWAPS Yhogurk for being a moron.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: in theory, as of november 08, all the drivers i need for linux are now available, but i can't be arsed to source and learn an entirely new set of applications
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: wonder what microsoft is doing about the low-power market - they continued support for xp as long as they did because they didn't have a suitable product
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: anyone using zmud and the #CAP command triggering on channel tags etc I can ask a question of ?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they still haven#t
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i tried windows 7 in a virtual machine. it's better than vista for sure
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: although it really vista remake
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: how is it better? not 75 services running on a clean install?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not requiring 2gb of ram and a dual core cpu just to run without feeling sluggish?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: only 73
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: less annoying
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it also ran pretty ok with 64mb graphics and 1gig of ram
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: I don't suppose microsoft has *ever* considered dropping some of its legacy support code just to clean up the kernal calls.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: vista was the epitome of bloat
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i still love my xp, i just wish they'd do something about the log-on pause with wifi
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: now that's something, coming from ms
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: they outbloat themselves with each new release
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: xp running my usual suite of applications runs with 31 processes
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: services or processes??
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: processes
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: but you was worried about services earlier on, what's processes go to do with it?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: they're related, at least
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nogs, a running service will be occupying at least one process
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: just Yhogurk being picky
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: tasklist /svc
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: or vice versa
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: xp has a load of useless services on install too
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murn Tech: Yeah, they sure slog your pc down...
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: hardly, don't really care how many processes are running as long as they're not hogging cpu, and it's the number of useless, bug-ridden, security prone services on a default install of windows that is the main cause of concern
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not even close to as many as in vista
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Murn is agreeing with that Yhogurk person again...
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: security holes don't bother me that much after 7 years of xp
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if they find any, they'll be pretty obscure and specific
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: you get comformtable with them after a while ...
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: Like the one they found a month or two ago that affected SMB on every windows version for the past 10 or so years?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: only grumble with m$ at the moment is they've hiked their prices up some 40% in the last 3 months
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: as long as you run a real firewall and anti everything to make sure nobody can get at your windows box you should be fine... like say a fully patched up bsd box inbetween.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: it's the weak pound
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: most people over here have a broadband combo with a hardware firewall
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and there's a difference in being affected by a security hole, and experiencing a problem as a result of it
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: I wouldn't call it much of a firewall, the way most people configure them
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: you mean the firewall that's part of the modem? you mean the modem that has default crappy passwords (if any), that noobs don't bother to set?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: most of them are set to ban all incoming ports except for a named list
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: That's because of NAT, not necessarily the Firewall.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what does that matter, yhogurk? unless you have physical access to the modem, there's nothing anyone can do to it
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: It blocks incoming ports because it doesn't know where to send them
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: good enough for most people
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i enjoy guessing wifi router passwords on usecured networks. pretty high success rate usually :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: it does matter if the admin functions are remotely accessible
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: remote admin is turned off by default
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: admin admin?  No.  Admin default? no.  Admin Password?  No.  Admin Linksys?  Bingo!
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: something like that. most people are tech-morons. and the default settings are not doing much good for them
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i don't have 3g subscription, so i have to find a wifi zone to access stuff. usually takes me around 5 minutes to find a network and (ab)use it on my phone
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nogs, fools and technology don't mix
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: -fortunately- the majority of kit supplied by isp's here when people sign up are encrypted by default
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and using default passwords :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: wpa or wep?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: wpa as a rule
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: my works wifi is only wep, but there's so many unsecureds around, i don't really care
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: "you have to set a password 5 or 10 digits long". "hmm. let's see... i know! 12345"
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: tnuts if that's the attitude you take as tech professional (i assume you are) then what is the average noob to do?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: can't do it on the phone, but i used to have a laptop with 3 wifi cards that could crack wep in 5 minutes and wpa in 30. i love the aircrack-ng suite :)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: eh? it's adequate, and it's also compatible with all the old stuff people bring in
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: anyway - wireless security is an illusion
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: wpa is only uncrackable in 30 mins if people choose daft passwords :)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: crackable
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nope. packet injecting works wonders
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: wireless security is proportionately important to the things you're looking to protect
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: hence i kept cringing at all the horror stories that came from the UK Government last year
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: from wireless cracking experience, the best defence is to flood the channels with fake aps
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: mac filters are useless
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: but of course, you don't have any experience, because that would be illegal
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: hem hem
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's illegal to probe aps?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's illegal to hack someone's wireless, secured or not
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: depends on where you're from
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: don't report me, please
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir lives in fear of Tigernuts.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: most people hacked aren't smart enough to look at logs to know they've been hacked.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: or enable logs in first place.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: haven't ever done anything bad. just checked my mail/aard
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: alhough i nuked the router of my neighbour who was a c**t enough to not let me in to the building 2 am at night after i came home from work and discovered that the doorlock was changed downstairs
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: oooh, router nuking...
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: Upload a picture of goatse as the firmware?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: close enough :)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: how have you cracked the default password, I wonder?..
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: sure
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the router had one :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: wifi was wpa2-psk tho
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: did you download aircrack all by yourself?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: he's esto, he might have helped write it.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no. my l33t h4x0r friends helped me
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: btw, how's 3g going on in ee? In Moscow, we'll have to wait a few years still
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you're in Moscow?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: yep
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and that fascist dictator Putin lets you have electricity?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: nope, I have my own p0w3r
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: cool beans
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: he's ripping out the phone lines for security reasons shortly...
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: having said that, i now expect to get poisoned with polonium 210
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what's your opinion on him thinking you can get away with that, anyway?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: 3g in ee is good
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: hm? nobody gives a damn about Putin here...
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why'd they all vote for him then?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: nobody did, stoopid
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: there's a new president - dmitri 'vladimir putin' medvedjev
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: it's just a new avatar
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: should've kept the drunk guy
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: he was great, but dead now :(
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: Gorbachev?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: yeltsin
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yeltsin was brilliant
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: gorbachev's up and kicking
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: Yeah, I thought he was still around
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nice topic change :)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: My knowledge of USSR/Russian political history is dim at best
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: yeltsin started off great but degenerated into a drunken buffoon
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: oh, great! maybe give him the hiren cd, in case he doesn't have something handy
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: every Russian is a drunken buffoon from birth
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: the hiren thing was to the wrong channel :)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: wrong yet appropriate
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: false. i'm half-russian and i haven't had a drink in 2 years
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: yeah but has any other russian/soviet leader been seen drunk in public?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i dunno, george bush jnr?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: Vhat's wrong vit ze vodka, eh?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: they're all on coke now
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: good point
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: i know the americans are full of it but even bush doesn't claim to be a russian/soviet leader
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: anyone else use nick gammon's spellup script for mushclient?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: I do
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: i need to insert a spell into the middle of my spellup list...
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: have fun rebuilding it :-/
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: ugh
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: i have to do that every time i get a stat spell??
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: hey, don't hi-jack tech into something technical!
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: I pretty much gave up on optimizing for order, myself
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: joelz, copy the current list to notepad, type the new spell where you want it, type "spellups: " and then paste in the list
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: spellup help would give you that syntax ;-)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: dagnir do you have a pointer to how aircrack can get into a wpa in 30 minutes?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: Only on pre-shared key configurations
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakamoto Tech: http://www.xlogs.net/?p=211
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: i had a look at the whax thing, and afaics it will only work against crap passwords, dagnir's reply earlier suggested that a 30 min attack was possible even when target is using a strong password
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: No, WPA cracking is based on weak passwords.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not always. check out aircrack-ng suite
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: The WEP attack, however, can guess the password after seeing X number of packets
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: From Aircrack-ng.org: "The only time you can crack the pre-shared key is if it is a dictionary word or relatively short in length. Conversely, if you want to have an unbreakable wireless network at home, use WPA/WPA2 and a 63 character password composed of random characters including special symbols. "
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah. they are usually relatively short in lenght :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: Than what were you saying "Not Always" about?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: they're not always that secure
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so it's possible to crack them using packet injection
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tapirath Tech: any tintin++ users? :)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: whatcha need Tapi
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tapirath Tech: I need a working #prompt script or a decent documentation, I searched all over the net but tintin++ is *highly* undocumented
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: just write a prompt in perl or c++ and call the function from within a .tin file
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tapirath Tech: how can I call the function from a *.tin file?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: and tintin is documented perty good on the tintin++ site... online manual... but if your using tintin++ i assume your using linux/unix? if so, you gotta get some programming/editing experience.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: go here .... http://tintin.sourceforge.net/manual/
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tapirath Tech: I have programming exp. but please the manual on tintin site is nothing but garbage. thanks anyway
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: now that hurts... i take pride in my manuals
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: what java programming? or web programming... i am talking about foundation programming not the crap they are teaching in schools today... damn kids
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: video recorder programming 
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tapirath Tech: wait a minute are you the tintin++ dev?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: one of the ppl in the comunity yes
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: Excuse me, are you saying that having extensive experience in low-level programming is necessary for someone to use Linux?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: no. not what i said
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: in zmud howdo i get it to stop saying 'unknown command. pleasecheck help files' on some of my triggers?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: stop using the uknown command?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: the trigger/alias's work but it still says that
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: check for a typo, because that's mud output to something your trigger sent
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tapirath Tech: lol, I have a pretty good exp in C. I also know use php and lua daily. Anyway now that I found you I'll make your head explode *evil* you might want to ignore me :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: i believe what i said was that Tapi needed to get some exp in programming/editing, meaning that it would help him in using linux as well as TT++
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: ok so if i use hnt to trigger a trigger thatwould still trigger it but also say unknown command?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: hang on, the "please check help files" bit that doesn't come from mud does it?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: Ahh, it was a little unclear.  Yeah, makes sense to get some decent experience to do scripting in Tintin
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: yeppers
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: yes that is a responce from the mud server for an unknown command
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: when i type in gibberish mud just says "Sorry Yhogurk, I don't understand you."
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: type the same thing twice
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tapirath Tech: Gunstling, I took another look to tintin manual I still don't see *anything* related to *.tin files?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: ok well the trigger works with the commands i have so i don't know why it is saying unknown
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: ah ok after a few tries .. :)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: something that the server does not recognize is being repeated once or twice Creedos
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: will logging help me trouble shoot that?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: i mean is there a way to log what is sent to server
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: because the echo doesn't show it in my screen
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: Tapi... look for information on "config" and "#read"
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: in the manual
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: yes... the script examples are written in the "syntax" of the way that the interpretor understands...
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: it is perty much its own language derived from a mix of c/c++, lua, perl and a couple of others.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tapirath Tech: ok I will, one last question, I turned ON #config convert to see what keypad keys return. it's the same as numeric numbers. how can I use keypad numbers only for macros 
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: might want to additionally look further than the manual as the TT++ forums are filled with ideas
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: nodnodnod argot
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: #macro {key value here} {command} ?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tapirath Tech: arghh, I already know that Argot :)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: don't get pissy with argot... he's just trying to help
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Argot grins evilly.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: and the keypad uses ascii values not what you see on the screen.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tapirath Tech: I'm not pissy
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: 'tis okay, I'm not understanding the question I suppose. If you only want keypad numbers for macros, use keypad numbers only for macros? :p
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tapirath Tech: Gunstling all the keyboard uses ASCII values
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gunstling gasps in astonishment.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: ok logging just does chat, i have a trigger 'hnt mob' that then triggers  a 'hunt #.mob' which adds 1to the # everytime i hit enter. It is inputting 'hnt mob' then 'hunt #.mob' is there a way so it doens't send the 'hnt mob' to the server but just uses it to trip my trigger?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tapirath Tech: keypad numbers and numeric numbers returns the same ascii code, so if I use keypad numbers for macros numeric numers triggers the macro too
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: Perhaps it should be an alias that starts the script, not a trigger?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: ah, good question. not sure if those can be differentiated?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: ok will try changing it to an alias
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tapirath Tech: technically it should, since vt100 standards sees keypad numbers with a escape sequence 
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: there should be a way in zmud (lua) to "disclude" from output?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tapirath Tech: but I couldn't get it work
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: that may be a problem with your terminal not TT++
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: sorry that should have been "exclude"?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: the default term type for tintin++ latest version is not VT100... its XTerm
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tapirath Tech: that's why I tried 4 different terminal emulator including rxvt xterm gnome-terminal and plain bash
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Argot would test around with it, but he doesn't have a numpad :p
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gunstling don't use the numpad... she has a laptop :)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tapirath Tech: correct me if I'm wrong but xterm is a vt100 emulator
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: i am sorry... not XTerm... its default out of the box is VT200/ASCII2
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: i was mistaken... i use xterm... had to look at the log
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tapirath Tech: I'm gonna take look at vt200 special key code sequences
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tapirath Tech: still VT200 sees keypad numbers with a escape sequence in front meaning 8 = Ox in numeric but 8 = Ox in keypad. When I #config convert on to see what keypad returns I see 8... *confused*
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tapirath Tech: oops server truncated the second one
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tapirath Tech: it should be 'Ox'
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tapirath Tech: arghh nevermind
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tapirath Tech: for tintin experts: if I use #action command in the argument of another #action command, can they catch the same line/message from server?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: that should work
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: can i get someones help with a php question i have ... going to have to be through notes or email because i have some coding to post -.- ...
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: might be more worth your while posting on the php mailing list
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Use a pastebin
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: ok then another language ... i just know php a little better then anything else ... all i want to do is make a form that saves all data written to it into a textfile that pulls its name from one of the text areas
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: "its name" = what?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: i can do it in perl :-p
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: the name of the text file
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: perl is best as a line-noise substitute :)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: So, Hadar, do you have a specific question about it, or do you not have any idea where to start?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i have no idea ... i was looking for a php one but to no avail ... im also tired -.- ... but i know its not impossiable i have had one before i just lost the code
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: google for any basic php + forms tutorial should get you started
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i can make a php form, its easy im having troubble with some of the backend stuff like getting it to post/make the text file
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: *cough* perl *cough*
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: You can use the fopen/fwrite/fclose functions if you want, Hadar
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Or, perhaps even simpler, use file_put_contents
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i know that but it still stalls up for some reason
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Which part stalls up?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Also, are you running the code on a Windows or Linux server?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: the backend of the form ... its linux
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Can you paste what you have so far in the backend? e.g. pastebin.com
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: http://pastebin.com/d5525441
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: What's the 'b' for in fopen($dir.'/$Cname.txt', 'ab')?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: both read and write, maybe?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: im half asleep ... note to self sleep before trying to problem solve
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: a is append, r is read, w is write
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: b is nothing
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: b comes alphabetically after a, obviously
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: as in 'b' for both
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: PHP variables are case sensitive too (I think)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: So you want $_POST, not $_post
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: If you are still having problems, then I suppose it's possible that PHP doesn't have permission to write in that directory (you can add some debug code to see if that's the case)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i know my php can read anywhere i did not check write
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Also, you said you wanted to the name of the file to be based on form input - as your code stands now, it's not doing that -- your text file will always be called  $Cname.txt
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: If $Cname is supposed to be a variable, you should probably define it somewhere, and change those single quotes to double quotes
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i have Cname set as a name in the actuall form part ... again im half asleep and right now me saying 2+2=cat sounds right
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: But, if this is a public form and you wanted the name of the file to be specified by the user, that is an issue, because someone could specify a name like "../../wrong/dir/file.txt"
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: you can sanitize your input :)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Okay, make sure you change those single quotes to double quotes, Hadar
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: That's always iffy, Joelz, because it's always easy to forget a case
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: true
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: its not a puclic form its locked in .htaccess
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: but removing everything except letters is a good start
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: and maybe a single period
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I'd recommend using a hash for the file name or something along those lines
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik nods at Fae Wino Joelz.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: If it's a private form, then I suppose there's not much of an issue.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: with .htacess
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: hrmm it looks like writing might be disabled in that directory
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: onn.Execute("SELECT * FROM tablename WHERE column like '%%1%'")
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: for some reason i cant get that to work with something with a space
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: like if i wanted to seach for 'huckles berries'
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: any suggestions
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: it would just search for everything that includes huckles
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Should work, me thinks... are you sure %1 is holding the right value when you do have a space?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: say i did --- search alias (search huckles berries)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: how is %1 getting populated? you might want %-1 rather than %1?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: lemme try that
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: using -1 fixed it, thanks
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: whats the difference on that?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RL Sucks Xantcha Tech: means all arguments from 1 onwards, -2 is 2 onwards, etc...  is just argument1,  is just argument2
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RL Sucks Xantcha Tech: Spaces separate arguments
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: thanks - appreciate it
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: %1 only grabs the first parameter (usually delimited by space hence your problem), %-1 means all parameters starting from the 1st
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KittyCat Alieah Tech: anyone know why my zmud mapper isn't following me?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: anyone know why i turned off my popup blocker and its still blocking popups in firefox -.-
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humpton Tech: it's configured wrong?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: the mapper is off?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humpton Tech: for both...
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KittyCat Alieah Tech: how does my configuration changed the follow?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KittyCat Alieah Tech: and I can see the map, so it is on then?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: not necessarily it needs to be et in follow mode
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KittyCat Alieah Tech: the footprints are toggled
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: did you change any settings recently? turn any tags on or off? change your prompt?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KittyCat Alieah Tech: all tags are off (NO) and my prompt is the same
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xahuia Tech: Anyone know what you do on a XP to view your specific computer information
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: what info do you need?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Right click 'My Computer' and choose 'Properties' :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: thats a good free system audit
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308549
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: noobs
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus snickers with Ol' Dirty Fiendish about their shared secret.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xahuia Tech: I need to see if my computer qualifies to play a certian game.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that's nice
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: Xahuia what game?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You know, it really sucks when you have folders (backup folders, mind you) that you're trying to delete and cannot because TrustedInstaller won't let you and you cannot set permissions to allow yourself to do so. :\
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there's a program that will let you do it anyway
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hail! Ceasar Tech: what is that, a Vista feature?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Vista/Windows 7 feature, yeah. What program? Unlocker? I'm using it now, but no result yet.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Hmmm.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Well, going to enlighten me? ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you won't find it, so there's no point
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there was a program years ago called easyerase or easydelete or something that would bypass system locks
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: in windows xp
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Ah.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I assume it would work for vista too
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but maybe not
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the last time I tried finding it I had a hell of a time
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: most hits on google now are not it
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: just boot to a recovery console and delete from there
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Trustedinstaller's a pain in the ass, too. :\ Hmmm... didn't think about the recovery console option.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Holy crap... 'Unlocker' DID delete it.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Sweet!
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}-SABU- Arystul Tech: anyone know how to fix the update error with 360?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommers Tech: Don't own a 360 myself, but if it'sa common problem with a recent update the solution is probably somewhere on the web.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommers Tech: maybe check the xbox-scene forums?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}-SABU- Arystul Tech: gotta say for the first 12 hours of owning a 360 I'm not happy
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mauler Tech: really why what game do you own
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommers Tech: Ouch, bad first impression. lol
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}-SABU- Arystul Tech: the game is irrelevant, it's the system that is making me mad
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hashassin Heafmo Tech: a lot of people aren't impressed with xbox360s reliability, i'd take it back for a fresh one if you have a receipt and try again rather than messing around
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}-SABU- Arystul Tech: I've played the same games on my ps3
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommers Tech: What kind of problem are you having exactly?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}-SABU- Arystul Tech: which i tihnk i might bring back and tell them to keep it
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}-SABU- Arystul Tech: the game started freezing, then before long it started not working at all
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommers Tech: No games are working?  
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommers Tech: Used?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hashassin Heafmo Tech: i can never run oblivion on my xbox, either get dodgy stuff happening in my save or my save starts freezing up too often to bear
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hashassin Heafmo Tech: xbox is only worth having if you're intent on owning the exclusives
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hashassin Heafmo Tech: but i'm lucky, i've yet to have an actual system of mine mess up
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommers Tech: I only know two people IRL that own 360s, both of them RROD
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hashassin Heafmo Tech: typical
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}-SABU- Arystul Tech: and 1800myxbox is f'in useless
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldorin Tech: With Mushclient, how do I add a variable to a trigger?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: When you say add a variable, what do you mean?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Do you want to grab something and store it in a variable?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Or do you have a pre-existing variable, and you want to use it when you get a match?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldorin Tech: I keep loosing my weapon, so I'm setting up a trigger to pick it back up again when I get dissarmed, but I need a variable for the opponents name
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Oh, neither.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Let me just get my trigger
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Just use an *
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldorin Tech: Ah, sweet, thanks heaps Rathik!
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I'm missing a libmhash.so.2 shared library in Linux... where in the world do I find it? :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: install mhash with whatever package manager your linux distro uses
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Oh heh. Thanks!!
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: anyone know why my report script comes out as jibberish?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Not without knowing the specifics.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Because it's broken.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'll need to define jibberish
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: That's like coming on here saying 'Anyone know why my car makes a funny noise?'
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: it's the one from the crimson site
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: That doesn't help us at all.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: 'My car's the one from the GM dealer.'
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: charneus: take person out of boot. problem fixxed
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Starbug comforts Alt. Helpa Charneus.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods at Rusk.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: [0;51;40mQ[0;31;40muest [0;51;40mR[0;31;40meport [0;51;40mS[0;31;40mince [0;37;40m7 janv. 07 - 21:01[0;36;40m: [0;37;40m1[0;36;40m Quest Done - Rewards: [0;37;40m18[0;36;40m Qps (Av. [0;37;40m18.00[0;36;40m), [0;37;40m3724[0;36;40m Gold (Av. [0;37;40m3,724.00[0;36;40m), [0;37;40m0[0;36;40m Train ([0;37;40m0.00%[0;36;40m), [0;37;40m0[0;36;40m Pract ([0;37;40m0.00%[0;36;40m), [0;37;40m0[0;36;40m Trivia ([0;37;40m0.00%[0;36;40m) - Av. Time per: [0;37;40m26[0;36;40m mins [0;37;40m23[0;36;40m secs.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wulfbane Tech: my car smells funny... any ideas?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: there we go
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, those are color codes not being parsed
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: use deoderant
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: yes colorcodes.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Because you are using ansi codes instead of Aardwolf color codes.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: how to fix?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You can't use it on channels. You can use it on a #SAY, though.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: somewhere in zmud you define the "translation" between MUD and ANSI codes
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: I remember there being a setting on the install notes.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Nothing in zMUD will translate from the escape ansi codes into Aardwolf codes. :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: *scratches his head*
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Donquixote takes a large shotgun and starts blowing holes in Albus Percival Wulfric Brian Dumbledore's lagging ISP.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: At least, not to my knowledge. What you'll have to do is go through your script and replace the ansi codes with Aardwolf color codes if you want it to work on a channel.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: hmm i didn't type that
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: is there an easier way?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Don't use it on channels. Use it on says? :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Rather, #SAYs?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: nope, still comes out as poo
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: charn, I know you're incorrect, in that zmud does translate internal color to Aard's codes...that's how you can paste colored stuff from one channel to another
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: [0;31;40mTesting - This is what happens if you try to use %ansi(red). :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Right, Abelinc. That's under color syntax. But that's copy/paste, not translation from %ansi(color) to @color.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: hmm but isee other people with the same script, how come their's work?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: The script itself explicitly says '%ansi(red)Q%ansi(bold,red)blah blah blah.'
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Don, you used it on #SAY?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then either there's a facility in zmud for the translate, or the script defaults to zmud output & not MUD channel and was changed
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods at you in agreement. 
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: umm any of you know a working script hehe?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: that you can link me to perhaps
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Don, I'll take a look at the script and get back with you.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: for what
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: nah dont worry about that, even if you tell me how to edit it i wont be able to cos i'm too stupid
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Of course, you could use Atreidess's scripts.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wrath of Aarioch Tech: Atreidess' site is down.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: hmm site is down tho :(
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: yea its been down for a while
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: crimson refuses to update their scripts
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Not atriedess.baal.com
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don, did you read the readme that comes with the script?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I noted the whole clan about bugs in their spellup, but they never made any changes
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Or whatever site it was. Hmmm.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: of course atreidess doesn't update his scripts either
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Script requires color syntax enabled
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wrath of Aarioch Tech: That site isn't there either charn.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: crimson not updating their scripts isn't relevant to this issue...this isn't aard output changing
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I know. just a side comment
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: hmmm, ya but his just being helpful hehe
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: fiendish, is the spellup script on your site less buggy than the crimson one?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: darn haha
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: probably even more
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: because I didn't write it
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: cries
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: danj has a new updated spellup script on his site, one of the only ones using the new tags...fiendish uses a 10-year-old one that he's updated just for v3 syntax
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I only host that one because people complain when I take it down
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: so danj site has a spellup script?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: hmm no site under whois danj hehe
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: finger
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sites are under finger
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Here you go: http://atreidess.baalclan.com/
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: oh
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: That's what I was looking for.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Mirror of Atreidess' scripts.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wrath of Aarioch Tech: Thanks, Charn :)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don, once you enable color syntax, the output from your reporter script should clean up
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: sorry, how do i enable color synt?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd have to check the zmud settings panes
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: ahh ok i can read it now, enabled color syntax, but now color's gone hahahaha
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: uh
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: now color's gone?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You have to put the colors in there, too. ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: Quest Report Since 7 janv. 07 - 21:01: 1 Quest Done - Rewards: 18 Qps (Av. 18.00), 3724 Gold (Av. 3,724.00), 0 Train (0.00%), 0 Pract (0.00%), 0 Trivia (0.00%) - Av. Time per: 26 mins 23 secs.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: you read see that? in color?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: charneus what do you mean char?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, yeah, that preferences page has spots to put  for red, etc
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err @r for red, etc
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Go down the list (foreground, background) and put R for Red, and so forth.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it needs to know what to tell Aard
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You don't put the @ sign. That goes in the Foregraound box.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: foreground, too.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You just put the letter for the color in it.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: listen to Charn, he actually uses zmud :-)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: ahh, ok the caps are the bright ones and lower case for dark yeah?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Depends on if you have brights on or not.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: mmm still haven't got it, but i feel i'm close
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: i put the r for red etc, what about background colors? what do i put for the tabs synxtax for foreground colors, syntax for background colors etc?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: syntax for setting both colors etc
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Aardwolf doesn't use background colrs.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Bah. Keyboard needs cleaning.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: Quest Report Since 7 janv. 07 - 21:01: 1 Quest Done - Rewards: 18 Qps (Av. 18.00), 3724 Gold (Av. 3,724.00), 0 Train (0.00%), 0 Pract (0.00%), 0 Trivia (0.00%) - Av. Time per: 26 mins 23 secs.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: do you guys see that in color?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it does. you just can't.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Ok. Under the box for 'Syntax for Foreground colors' you put @, right?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no donq
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Rather, @F
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: Quest Report Since  janv. 07 - 21:01:  Quest Done - Rewards: 8 Qps (Av. 8.00), 724 Gold (Av. ,724.00),  Train (.00%),  Pract (.00%),  Trivia (.00%) - Av. Time per: 6 mins 3 secs.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: YE
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You clap your hands together.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: thanks guys
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: you guys are the best
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus smirks.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: you're all smart, i'm dumb
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it happens
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: everyone had to learn...many of us have been MUDding, and using zmud, for many, many years
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: hey now my minimap looks better too, the fiendish one haha
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You snicker softly.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I only wish color syntax worked in CMUD. :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you were looking at the map in black and white?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, that seems odd to me, since the automap is from MUD output, not zmud-generated
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: oh nah, its weird, once i did syntax the map colors kinda changed
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: although i had colors before too, but now looks be3tter
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that shouldn't be the case
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: maybe you changed the colors
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you change brights setting in aard?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: i dunno, but it's all good now so i'm happy
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: or switch ansi/vt100 mode settings
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: i got spellup, quest report, map, and gauges, anyone know what other scripts are very useful?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: bigmap is my favorite
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: other than vidblain, I find bigmap more of a neat trick
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: bagmap's good eh? but i dont have the space for it, plus when you're using speedwalks, why do you need to know where you are continent wise?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: an autohunt script is handy, dunno where one is posted tho
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I like seeing the mud world instead of just words
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: that's true
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: atreidess has autohunt
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods at Ol' Dirty Fiendish.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's truly handy for vidblain unless you've got portals or use coords in a script
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: thanks a lot for everything once again
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: channel capture is nice
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh yeah, that did come up last week, cuz I had asked if it was updated for the new %-based output
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: oh yeah, but i read the instructions to it and it was like you needed an IQ of 200 to get it going..
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, download fiendish's channel cap script
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hah
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Depends on who you ask, Fiendish. I just use channel capture to log everything. I hate having to navigate through different windows to see what I'm missing. ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'll work without following the other page of instructions just fine
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you only need the other page if you want lots of tabs to split up different channels
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that other page tells you how to do different tabs for different channels
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but even w/o that, it's great for having channel text not scroll off the screen when you're in combat
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: without it what does it do? i thought that's what it did heh
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it puts ALL channels into one other window
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: damn the quest report doesn't even work lol
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you follow the other page, then you can have tech chan go to 1 window (tab), gossip to another, etc
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: finger dolt for a quest report script
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: i just did my quest and nothing happened haha, all that for nothing
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you tell it the name of your questor?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: oh forgot about that
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: #ADDITEM QuestorName <putnamehere>
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: is my questero's name just QuestoR?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: scroll up ;-)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: why would you use a quest script that requires you to give it your questor's name?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it needs to match what you see for "XXX tells you "
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: dolt's script doesn't need that
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then dolt's script is hax!
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what's the point of a quest script that only works for some questors?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can enter as many questors as you want...how many do you use?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: me? 0
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: this is gonna sound really really really stupid...how do i find out the name of my questor?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dolt's needs you to enter your own name ;-)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: my name never changes
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: lol, so does this guy's
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: questor name does
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: donquixote, scroll up to where questor gave you your reward
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: A QuestoR tells you 'As a reward, I am giving you 16 quest points and 4984 gold.'
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: so his name is QuestoR? or A QuestoR?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: A Questor.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dolt's won't work if you request at one questor and complete at another :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: neither will this one
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure it will
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as I said, you can enter multiple questors
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: sounds like work
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dolts locks in questor's name at request time
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Dolt's is easy to configure so you don't have to worry about completing at another. :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, lots of work to type "#ADDITEM QuestorName foo" "#ADDITEM QuestorName bar"
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUCH easier to configure this one than dolt's for that
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Just take out the variables that lock in the name, and change it to *. It's probably locked in, though, so others can't abuse it.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dolt's would require you to change triggers
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: That's when you use tell tags. :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: this one has a built-in facility
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: easier to change the trigger than to go around and collect questor names
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't need to "collect questor names"...
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what do you do, translocate around the MUD looking for questors to be a sut with?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: normal circumstances would be using only one questor, which would not require any change. if I'm going to find myself at multiple questors, especially mid quest, then it would be nice to not have to keep updating over and over
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: generally, you'll have a quest request and a quest complete alias, locked into 1 questor
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the time to change questors is usually if you use aardhotel, but die after killing target
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you'll use 8s of recall to q complete before getting your stuff (non-clanned :P)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I use Aardhotel to complete if I end up in a no-recall room
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Other than that and dying, yeah, it's pretty much always thee samee
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Of course, if you wanted to, you could do #TRIGGER {^~(Group~) You smack (*) out of his boots *} {#ADDITEM QuestorNames "%1"}, then #LOOP 1,558 gt *hellno %i.questor} :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you put 2 questors in the variable with this one and it's done, no scripting knowledge required
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: do 2 different quest givers each have a seperate 30 min timer?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no creedos
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: k thnx
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: There. All questor names are stored. :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You snicker with him about your shared secret.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: hello, you guys still there?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It's 1:45. no.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: yup
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: During double, too.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: i'll ask after double haha
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Ask now. I'm not doing anything.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: that quest report thing, how do i see if i've added a question name?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Well, it wouldn't matter, regardless - #ADDITEM only adds one instance of a name.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: with that additem thing, how do i see the added items?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: But if you really wanted to, you could do #FORALL @QuestorName {#say %i}
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: basically it's still not working for me haha
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: like is it possible for me to check which questor names i've added and whatnot
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: I don't think zMUD supports whatnot.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: it works on some questors, but not on the questor 2 e of recall which is my main one
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: how do i delete a script and anythign that goes with it?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: go to your C: folder and that folder called Windows, yeah you don't need it.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: how do i delete a class of scripts?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: #DELCLASS classname
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since it was the end of charn's quote, and it was trying "n} stuff"
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bah, mis
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: is atredeiss potion counter out of date?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: i think there is one on athena's website thats a working copy
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: anyone know how to delete atrediss's potion script? i can't get it working and i dont know how to delete it...
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Altannon Tech: How do i change font in Mush Client ?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: w00t early weekend due to work power failure
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: glad to have you now come finish scripting my bot
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cornor Cerashor Tech: somebody pls gime the sight again for the spellup scripts of gamon?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cornor Cerashor Tech: nm
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: anyone here know how to make scripts/trigs on MUSHclient?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: lasher does, send him lots of tells
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: PaperTiger Panzer looks around and whistles innocently.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: hmm microsoft.com is 503'd
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: Anyone here have any experience with crossover?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: a bit
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: $pets = "SELECT * FROM animals WHERE name like '". $itsName."'";
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: i thought with using LIKE i could put in partials and it would find all that match
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: like geo and it would find "george"
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: doesnt using like search for patterns, or am i doing somethin wrong
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: you'd have to do... $pets = "select * from animals where name like '%".$itsName."%'"
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: the % in a like statement means to match anything
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: this is for php not zmud, but still uses the % signs as syntax?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: which lets you do "geo%" to match george but not ogeo
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: I don't know shit about zmud
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: lol k
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: problem solved, thank you
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: np
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: if you're using a search engine, try "sounds like" isntead
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: btw if you are making a search engine.. give "sounds like" a try instead of "like"
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: it'll take typos in to consideration..
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: that is dependent on whether the database being used supports "sounds like"
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: but I don't think % signs work with sounds like... so you'd have to do something like..... select * from monstarrs where soundex(name) like concat("%", soundex("fido"), "%")
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: don't be cynical Yhogurk, soundex is ancient and if a server doesn't support it, it's easy to throw in support
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: it's been standard in MySQL for what.. 5 years now?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: if I asked you a tcp/ip related question on here would you tell me it depends on if my OS supports TCP/IP or if I have to install a third party stack like back in Windows 3.1?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: never used sounds before
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfury Tech: that depends on if you are assuming microsoft products  
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: no
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: sounds like in MySQL isn't talking about anything audio related
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: it means it will match Fido to Fidoh
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: lol, yea i gotcha on that
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: because they sound similar
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: yea i know what you mean
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: meant*
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Just being stupid and random - soundex will do pain and pane won't it?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Hrm... anyone know how to load/run/compile a file in Scheme? The Googling I've done says (load <file>) or (run <file>) should work... but I get an error that <file> is an undefined variable
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omoro Tech: how do I script enter into a macro for mushclient?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drednaught Tech: quick question... anyone know of a free app that will do the same job as teamspeak or ventrillo?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Anyone here who's done any Lisp/Scheme programming?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Izocinoc Tech: (car (yes no))
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon looks at Izocinoc and goes "Hmmmm."
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Izocinoc Tech: not much, and not in a few years, heh
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: No worries. I think I've figured out this question, but not 100% positive - wanted to check.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Izocinoc Tech: what are you trying to do?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Not trying to "do" anything... trying to reason through how a fairly simple program would be handled differently based on normal-order or applicative-order evaluation
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: hmmm....any suggestions for how to get the mapper in cmud to follow rooms on the mapper, to get to zones like Art of Melody, for example?  (dance)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cmud's mapper is broken
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: how about zmud's?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: broken, I mean...not sure if I'll have this problem in it.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: CMUD's mapper is NOT broken. I use it quite well.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Maybe you're broken to, and you just don't know it?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: In fact, my mapper follows me perfectly, changing zones and entering rooms/exits as needed.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: ok, charneus...any suggestions as to how to get cmud's mapper to follow commands other than directions?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: I've got it following me, just can't get it to manage portals and 'other' exits yet.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Input them in the mapper itself as 'other'.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You do have to enter it in exactly, though.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so if it's not broken, then why is the next release supposed to fix the broken mapper?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: as the 'other' command?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: For instance, you can't just type 'dan' when the exit for other is 'dance.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Abelinc - It's not 'fixing' a mapper.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Brb. On the phone.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: If you're using the public release, it works perfectly. Zugg just released beta versions, in which the mapper has undergone a rewrite. The betas, there might be issues with them, but that's why they're called Betas. Personally, I have no issues with them at all. Are you using the public release (2.37) or the latest beta (3.03a) ?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: using the jet "database" engine as a backend for the mapper could be considered broken by design
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus smirks.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: 2.37
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You can make custom exits.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: I don't tend to be a beta tester....except for Microsoft O/Ses, where I don't have a choice.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: and any other O/S, for that matter.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon . o O ( Linux )
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: You have a choice. :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: not at work, I don't
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: back to the custom exits....
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Right. I'm trying to remember the syntax to set them up on the command line. Alternatively, you can just do it in the room properties.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: been trying to do it in the room properties, but it doesn't seem to honor them.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Do you have the map in edit mode?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: yep
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Ok. Step by step in the room properties: First create the rooms you want linked. I'm assuming you already have them created, though.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: yep
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Take the vnum from the room you're going to link (keeping the mouse over it for a brief second will show it).
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: 537
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: (not that you care -- just illustrating :) )
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Good. Now, make sure you're in the room you're going to like 537 to.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Again, I'll assume that you are. :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: heh
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: On the exits page/tab, click the white cross in the blue square. It'll bring up new link
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: huh...okay, I was right-clicking and selecting New Link from the pop-up menu.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You could do that, too.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: I take it they're not the same?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: ahh, ok.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: No, they are the same.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I'm just stating the way I normally do it. :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Now, it should display a row starting with the current vnum you're in.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: yep.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Ok. Now, where there are two compasses, select 'other' on the first one.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: wait...maybe not....has the vnum of the destination room.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: syntax for creating custom exits from cmdline is ">enter pool>d"
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Ah, that's right. Thanks, Yhogurk.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: But, continuing on with this demonstration... :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: you can also stack commands by separating them with ;
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: After you've selected 'other,' you put the command to go to that room in the 'Name:' box.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: For instance, for 'dance,' you'd put 'dance' in that box.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: what Name box?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: The one under the compasses.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: tip, put in the command last (after you've selected source and dest exit, one-way, door, etc)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: I've got Other com, Link Label, and Door Name....ahh, the last one?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: No, Other com.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Sorry, in 3.03a, it's Name. ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: ok, so, 'dance' is already in that box.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Ok. Then click on the # and enter 537.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: click on the number where?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Should be next to the white cross/blue square, or over a couple.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: click on the # button near the top-right corner
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods at Yhogurk.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Thanks. I'm working at it blindly right now.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: gotcha...yep, it's 597 (sorry, mistyped earlier :) )
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Now, as a trick...
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: What Yhogurk said about >enter pool>n...
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You can actually do >dance>s>whatever the exit command is.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: That creates the room to the south with the other command 'dance' and a return command of whatever.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: ....assuming there is a return command, correct?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Right.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Otherwise, you can just put >dance>s
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Then it creates the room south with the other command dance.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: ok, so, other than executing that command at the command-line, I've got the exit set up.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Now, like I said earlier, you will have to actually type it in full. You can't abbreviate 'other' commands.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: I have been....it still won't follow.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Typing 'dance' now should move you into that room.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Are you in follow mode?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: yep.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus sits down and thinks deeply. 
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: trying it one more time....
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tyebald falls down laughing.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Make sure you don't have any blank exits, too.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: ok, that sucks....it worked. :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It sucks that it worked? *quirk*
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: don't get me wrong, I'm glad it worked....but I had everything already set up the way you wanted....which means I'm not sure what I did differently. :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: so now I'm stuck in the Land of Permutations. :) but thanks!
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tyebald trundles off to another 'other' exit room, to practice...
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Try using the >exitcommand>direction syntax. :)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It's a lot easier.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: yeah, I'll give that a whirl.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: you can do fairly complicated stuff with the "other com" thing eg in desert prison, i have it auto go and buy pass and give pass to camel man etc
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: excellent, glad to hear it.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: other 'other' exit I'd put in just worked too....maybe I wasn't in Follow mode.  *shrug*
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: remember you can also use variables in "other com", eg in talsa i have it wear conadrain/moricand, and then re-equip my normal torso eq which i've stored in a variable
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: cool, thanks.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: ooOoo so i can just call earmoricand in the commands for the portals in talsa for example once i set up the variable?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: @wearmoricand, yeah
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: ooOoo so i can just call @wearmoricand in the commands for the portals in talsa for example once i set up the variable?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods at Doa.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: sweeeeet
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: glad I'm not the only one learning. ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: i was writing in the commands shortening the moricand etc 
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: that > command is a lifesaver....well, not in the terry pratchett literary sense, but you get what I mean.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus grins evilly.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: I don't suppose there's a shortcut command to set the 'locked' property on a door?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Not to my knowledge.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: i've never found much use for setting a door to locked, zmud's path finding doesn't take locked doors into account (afaics) and hence will try to walk through them anyway
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Yhogurk: it does.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: But it doesn't know when you have the key and when you don't.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: it does? lemme check :)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Go to Configuration settings, then strings and doors. It should be the second one down.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: ah, exactly, since mud auto unlock doors  anyway (if you have key) then it's pointless letting mapper know whether door is locked or not
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Not necessarily. If you've got the keys for it, and you don't have passdoor, then you can just run through it. It'll automatically unlock the door and open it for you.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Ah, but you mean with the 'open door' command.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Yeah, you could be right on that. :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: i think i am :)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: would be nice if there was a way to get zmud not to try and go thru a locked door
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: There is.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: not by blocking the rooms on either side :)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Of course, you could check the 'Only send door command, do not send direction' ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: i suppose a fudge would be to, instead of having a door, insert an extra "do not enter" room, but that would be ugly
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: okay, next mapper question...how do I get the mapper to recognize both 'normal' rooms, and rooms where the room description is just a title?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: (such as The Fortress of Knowledge)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I use roomtags and the auto-config.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Makes mapping so much easier.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: i hate those rooms without descriptions, i cheat and insert them manually which is extremely tedious for something like aardwolf estates
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I don't have to manually put anything in. :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: in zmud how do i go about having a trigger not fire if a #VAR is 0
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: wanna be abot to turn autohunt on and off
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: #TRIGGER {^(~{rname~})(*)} {#TAG name %2;#PSUB {} %x1}
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: roomtags and auto-config, huh?  I'll look for those in Help.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: ty
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: oops not melol
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Credos... that wasn't for you. :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: never could get get those tags to work, it captured them ok, but mapper didn't use them
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It works fine for me. Did you reconfigure with brief 0 on?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: i always use brief 0
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Set that as a trigger, make sure tags roomname is on.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Then reconfigure. It'll capture it properly.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: thanks, when i get bored and want to finish mapping aardwolf estates 2K i'll try that again :)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: i only mapped out just enough to find a site for my manor :)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: interesting....I'll try it after next quest....uh, and getting some food. :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Triggers: 453 Aliases: 166 Variables: 152 Paths: 0 Macros: 39 Class Folders: 103 Mapped Zones:  254 with 28674 rooms.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus looks around and whistles innocently.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalax Tech: for what program?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: CMUD. :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magish Tech: You need more mapped rooms! You're missing at least 11! XD
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalax Tech: ... i need your stuff :-p
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus smirks.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalax Tech: left for 2 years and now i forgot how to make all that stuff
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I used to have over 5k triggers. :\ Stupid crash.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Bot.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You can't prove it! :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus looks around and whistles innocently.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: bloated code
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft coughs loudly.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: Charneus Tech: I used to have over 5k triggers.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Actually, most of my stuff is really compact. :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: there ya go, gritz, if you wanted the proof again. ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: When I started out, I had bloated codes... triggers where I didn't need them... :p
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: compact zscript..
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft goes, "OK".
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: [09 Jan 22:06:13] Charneus Tech: Actually, I'm totally a bot.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kiss my Gritznakka nods quietly to himself.  What a wacko.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: a crowbot, like finsofts?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (R) That Iron Duck Chuft is huge! Seltsimees Dagnirbot quickly backstabs him!
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: truly an example of estonian elegance in stepper algorithms
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: I am trying to setup an #IF statement, but having no luck. Can you see what is wrong with the following syntax? '#IF ("You seem unable to hunt that target for some reason.") {where num.mob}{#ADD hnum 1}'
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daimbert Tech: Quick question - is there a good, free software package I can use to backup my computer running OS X 10.4? I just got an external hard drive and I'm excited about using it
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daimbert Tech: but am not quite sure how
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daimbert Tech: I mean, aside from dragging files manually to it, but I suspect that will not make a bootable copy, and I'm sure there are programs that figure out which files have actually changed since your last back up.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: is there a way for me to get n,s,e,w put into a #VAR whenever i just hit 1 of those keys?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: in zmud
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: macros
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: ok will look into it thnx
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: i think that's what they're called in zmud
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: ok will look into it thnx
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: mis
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: ... Hmmm. Why the hell does my keyboard not type in the correct characters in my browser? :\
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Testing becomes 0c5c,g2 in my browser. :\
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Oo... wait... I think I know what it could be.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus is apparently talking to himself anyway.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: would anyone recommend a particular terminal for Vista?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: doesn't matter much what you use, just remember to either turn UAC off or install it outside of program files
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: since most mud clients write their settings in their own folder
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: thanks daj
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: danj
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cougr Tech: in zmud i have somehow created a blank button that does nothing, no title, cant find it to delete it, any ideas???
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voehn Tech: go to the buttons dialog, it should be listed, delte it
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cougr Tech: i right click on that area and they all come up in the scripting window except the blank one
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voehn Tech: tried quiting zmud and restarting ?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cougr Tech: no will do that next now that you mention it
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cougr Tech: killing the mud and restarting it removed that mystery button, thanks
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: hmmmm, someone lying somewhere
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: who is good at 'finding' things
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: is there a better spellup script than yoshira's? that one seems to keep losing spells andi have to remove all and add all to get them back.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: spells leak when you sleep or fight
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: yathats when it seems to happen, that happen with all the SU scripts?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: I don't use it so I don't know
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: ok thnx
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yashiros script gets confused if some other script sets its class as default. just using the add spell dialogue will refresh the spell list
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: ok
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that happens if you use any scripts from fiendish
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: raggin on feindish?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: they all set default when executing
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: otherwise they're fine
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: ya pretty sire i have a fiendish or two
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: then you should find some vars and aliases from yashiros script in wrong classes
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: gonna check out the built in spellup see how that one works
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: just make them stay in their own class and disable the default option. yashiros should be fine then
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: yay, I got me a windows 7 beta key
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yes, but is it shit?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I don't know, I haven't got the iso downloaded yet!
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I hear it's vista with less suck
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i find that hard to believe
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: well, I'm gonna install it in virtual pc once I get the iso
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: and I'll see
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm considering switching to it
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I'm already running vista (didn't pay for it, got it free with a college course) so if 7 sucks less then I'm definitely interested
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: at the same time of course, I'm not stupid enough to install a beta os on actual hardware
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i find that hard to believe
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: woops
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: so whats the deal with aardwolf bells and whistles
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fachtna Tech: anyone have any advice on reducing cached memory on vista?  
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mauler Tech: switch to xp
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mauler Tech: jk 
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fachtna Tech: haha it's so much better than vista isn't it :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mauler Tech: they are releasing a new update to windows vista soon
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: Yeah, called Windows 7
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mauler Tech: ya, thats it
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fachtna Tech: thanks anyway
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newname Tech: anyone know how to output data to a file in zmud... I want to sent out alot of text... capturing mobdeath data
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: capture mobdeath data whatever for?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: could use a log
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: #log?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: the only use I could imagine for capturing mobdeath data is for some auto runto action
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newname Tech: no just a mob database
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: iwuvaard did something like that already
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newname Tech: not complete...
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: zmud could probably be used to query them?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: well you're able to add data to iwuvaard too
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so who here using linux is going to switch to windows 7?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I soon switched back when I tried redhat in 01 or whenever it was :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i heard yoghurk is gonna switch
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: such a quaint excuse for an os, all they need is to make it all command line basic interpreter, then you might as well just go buy a commodore :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: is Commodore yet in business
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: is Linux stupid-user friendly yet
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: commodore haven't been in business for a decade, although the brand name had been bought by a pc builder somewhere
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and no, linux is still a geek-toy and nothing more
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: nogs..some pc builder who also went bust in the 486 days
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: no idea who has it now
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's certainly not the biggest server platform
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: gateway owned it at one point.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: that was it, gateway
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: but I thought gatewaydied out
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: escom had it too
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Linux provides too much of the useless documentation and not enough of the useful information (translation: some parts of Linux are poorly documented
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: don't be silly
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it provides not enough things that work
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: the same can be said for windows (especially vista), but people have 20 years of windows behind them while linux has only be graphical and readily available for maybe 10
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: das source ist das dokumentation
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: too late, windows has market share, and software/hardware support, linux doesn't
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if Linux want more things that work, some tech tools require to be provided to permit others to understand LInux, and to code those Tech tools requires books detailing the templates and structures used by Linux
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i don't get the people criticizing os's they don't use
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's not really joe public's job now, is it, xyliz?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: books? what's wrong with just the interfaces or language equifalent documentation?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mauler Tech: how did you know my name, tigernuts?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: the people that linux is really geared for already use it.  If it's too complicated for you, then don't bother.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: assuming that one wants an os that's open source, one must be a competent programmer tailoring it for something specific
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: most people don't care about o/source
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Onenmaru Tech: i am semi competent .-.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Your name is Joe Public? that's a very lucky guess
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: looking at source code does not adequately describe the templates and structures used
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mauler Tech: hehe
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Onenmaru Tech: documentation is key ._.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: otherwise, something with wide commercial support and guarunteed uptime, such as any modern nt kernel, is liable to fill your needs far better
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: people want something reliable, easy to use, and that all their stuff works on
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: ahh dammit, I missed part of the monthly O/S debate :/
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: xyliz, what exactly are you looking for?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: it would be nice if programmers could write their source so that it documents itself, but let's be realistic - they're comp sci majors (usually) not english majors
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Onenmaru Tech: actually, i intend to be a programmer myself, and i intend to keep everything i write fully documented(comments and compled help files)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: hahaha
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Yah then you'll work in the real world and pressures of deadlines will throw that out of the window
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: looking for the Linux equivalenrt of the Dos/Windows "PC Pragramming Guide" a thick book which provided tables of the structures and templates of the OS and Hardware
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: such a cute newb!! or possibly just far less idle than me ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: easy and reliable - that rules out windows, "all their stuff works on" - if they've been using windows all their life then obviously all their stuff works on windows (unless they were daft enough to get some mac software)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: windows is both easy -and- reliable
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Onenmaru Tech: bah, it's not like it takes extra time to document your code ._.! just comment it as you go
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: but the hardware interrupts are at the bios level, not the os level, so why would one require a seperate textbook?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: easy and reliable?  heh.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: We have a comedian.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well mine is, have you broken yours?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: No really, wait till you have a boss screaming for your code - you'll soon start taking shortcuts like not bothering with those comments
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I find my xp uptimes to be quite acceptable..perhaps if you didn't install a load of third party crap, spyware and dodgy hardware drivers, yours would work, too
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: PC Pragramming Guide" provides useful thingsd as Master Boot Record Layout, FAT interpretation, Directory Layout, etcetera -- things useful to a utility programmer
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: definately a case of pebkac if your xp build is unstable, I'm afraid
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Onenmaru Tech: when i have a boss screaming at me, i will have a boss who finds he shouldn't have eaten those cookies in the lobby, because his buthole suddenly feels like he ate aluminum foil.. ~cough~
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: computers are just a fad anyways, theres no future in that industry
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: surely there are equivalent linux books to that? I've seen them I think
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: chances are, you go buy a bit of computer equipment off the shelf, it won't work with linux
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: and I have some ancient doorstop called pc intern for that kinda reference, heh
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: Ad hominem much?  Windows instability is widely known.  You're just in denial if you think otherwise
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Onenmaru Tech: bah, my copy of windows wasn't stable when i got it.. 
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: most/all the info you need will be available online, no need really to get a book
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I am? I guess all the companies running nt on production servers with 99.9% uptime I have consulted for are also in denial?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: clearly, you are right and the morority of industry is wrong, mea culpa
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: majority*
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Onenmaru Tech: after all the tweaking i did, i'm surprised it's not coughing uper purple hippos and singing about japanese fighting fish
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: an NT production server with 99.9% uptime is an unpatched security hole waiting to ruin your business
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: And any businesses still running NT are likely about to crumble, anyway
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: well, clearly the users are voting with their feet, then, since they'd rather pay for the stability than use the free linux platforms ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: eh? most small businesses that have a server are runnint NT, lechter
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: Your anecdotal claims of "users" is laughable, at best
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: in fact, i don't know of any local businesses i've ever met or dealt with that use linux
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'll join the pissing contest - what about ibm? they seem to be fine
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: Calling Server 2003 "NT" is like calling Nissan "Datsun".
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: i used to like writing Dos utilities at the assembler level.  among the redundant tools: wrote a Format program that formatted floppy disks 
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 99% uptime is nothing, crufty...if it reboots daily, it'll STILL have 99% uptime...
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tigernuts, that's a lie
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: So unless you're living in the 1990s still, learn the new nomenclature
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: er..the nt kernel is a well established codeline from the 90s..perhaps you should examine the facts
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no it ain't
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: almost every compant you've worked with uses linux...you're just too daft to realize it
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: You'l
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: You're a consultant?  Heh.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no, they don't
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes they do
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: Yes, they do.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no they don't
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Onenmaru Tech: ugh, os war... 
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Onenmaru waves happily.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so they have no routers? sounds like mom & pop, not a company
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: spam firewall box? wireless controller?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: Tigernuts is on his weekly Gates-humping cycle, it seems
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all linux
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: cisco cli is linux now?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: do you have a router? what do you think is in it?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft goes, "OK".
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: hell there are even some chavs that are using linux - don't some of those game consoles have linux?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Tiny little elves
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tigernuts pats you on your head. 
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: tubby doesn't tend to deal with companies that require enterprise level routers..so, no, I suspect they're not running linx there either
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and chuft, you "touted" 99% uptime for winderz, which doesn't say shit...if you need to reboot it daiy, it'll STILL meet 99% uptime...
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: and I still think that calling the cisco os linux is a hell of a long shot :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: chuft, not talking about enterprise
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I wasn't even talking about cisco
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: So, let's remove all BIND DNS servers and replace them with the Windows equivalent and see how long it takes for all Internet activity to screech to a halt
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: you said routers..that's pretty much all people use in my experience
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: walk to your local wal-mart...most of the wifi and soho routers are embedded linux
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what about juniper, linksys, dlink?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bullshit
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: how about servers running apache?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i don't think a bespoke single-use application embedded on a non-computer device really counts now, does it?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're so full of it if you claim that your experience never saw other than cisco
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: apparently it does, farky ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: Apache runs mol
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: that's the kind of application linux is ideal for, custom footprint oses
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: or you have 0 experience
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: I'm guessing the latter
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: oh dear, the fanboys are getting their willies out
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: which really kinda underlines the point that every os has its place..and linux probably isn't a good bet for a server ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, so critical hardware running critical applications doesn't count...interesting take
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: umm, a router *IS* a server
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: actually I'm surprised QNX isn't big in the routers though I suppose it probably wants too much for licence
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: to write a Utility in assembler or C requires a lot of technical information -- even the PC Prpgrammers Guide was scant on the hardware information with regard to floppy drives.  Required to use Debug to etract the information required (there was a bug or anomaly in the floppy drive chips with regard to 3rd and 4th floppy drive access)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what do you define as a server, that router, web server, etc don't count?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: You have three tiers of servers.  Windows is for the "I want to do X when I push button Y" crowd.  Linux is for the sysadmins with a clue.  Mainframes are for... wait, most mainframes run Linux VMs anyway... So yeah.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since apache runs the vast majority of websites on the 'Net, and that isn't on Winderz
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: no, a router is a custom bit of black box hardware, and you're straining at gnats if you try to class it as a server, since it can only run networking protocols
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: you know what... i like linux but the quality of this debate is enough to make me want to switch to windows server
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: why write in assembler or c? use python, perl, ruby, lua
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well us normal people were talking about desktop PC and business servers (including application servers, file servers, web servers)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: hardly fair to say that routers use linux when there isn't an equivalent microsoft product
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: chuft, it can do tons more than networking protocols, and "server" isn't the hardware, it's the application
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: You'd run Windows for a file server?  Ech!!!!
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: actually apache does run on windows
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tigernuts, there is so an equivalent MS product
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes it does, yhogurk, just not for those vast majority of Net sites
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: no routers are linux because no MicroSerf product has that small a footprint or intertask speed :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I guess tigernuts has never routed using an NT kernel...interesting since it's been able to do that since NT 3.5
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: I'm just curious why people actually pay someone for "consulting" who has no clue about Linux.  Where I live, if you only know Windows you're laughed out of the office.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you give 10 small businesses all linux os's, and within 30 minutes they'll be going "what the fuck is this?"
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: back when I was the computer tech at the elementary school, the school's router was one of 3 windows boxes, with 400 Macs being served by its routing
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and to be honest, they (and me) couldn't care if their router has some stripped out linux on it, they don't 'use' a router, it's just there
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Totalia Tech: ROTFL
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: I didn't say ALL Linux OSs.  Your hyperbole just shows your lack of knowledge
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: you give 10 small businesses a new cash register and they're doing the same thing
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, so yeah, you do just have experience with mom & pop, and not the real world...thanks for clarifying :-)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: in the dos days if you had gave the same 10 businesses windows boxes their reaction would be pretty much the same
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well there you go, you misread the start of the conversation, go off on a tangent, then blame -me- for it?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: given that this whole conversation was about usability for the common man, i think it's you lot who have no clue
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: You just jumped around in a hissy fit when I said Windows is not known for its stability.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: ah, gotta love a good os flamewar, and all the predictable old hacks
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: you're confusing useability with familiarity
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: windows truly is known for not being as stable as any other OS
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nobody had a hissy fit, we just said that if your windows wasn't stable, it's probably your fault
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: and all the bullshit from the fanboys on both sides who forget a computer is just a tool for proper sciences ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: in business, familiarity creates a massive barrier costwise
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: how many questions do we get on this channel that zmud or mushclient won't run on vista?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: exactly, but don't confuse it with useability
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: i wasn't aware that i was, thanks
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: windows measures uptime in months, unix/linux in years, VMS in decades...it's all about scale :-)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: a few, but it's a fairly standard problem, just need to turn off the handholding parts of vista as administrator
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: not you ani, tnuts :)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: cmud works on vista, as does zmud
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, tiger, we know
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but "common man" doesn't
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so what's the problem
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: zmud works on vista, but you do need to disable some of the default protections..dep, for example
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: the shambles over office 2007 is a case in point
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because you must do things to get them to run properly
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ugh, I hate office '07
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not a lot
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ribbon my ass :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: yes, abelinc..but it requires turning off 2 services..hardly a challenge
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: can all be done via gui, too
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: ms should have made it natively backwards compatible, but they didn't, and chaos ensued in the business world
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not a lot, but more than double-click the installer, which is what winderz users expect
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I'm a windows user, I think I'm considerably more competent than that ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: a whole lot better than having to write a set of drivers for your hardware from the ground up
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: Windows desktops for the clueless users?  Sure.  100% Windows servers because of clueless admins?  That's just a waste of money.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hardly a challenge to those that don't need to ask, yes, they all run quite well with run in compat, run as admim, or turn off uac
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: most of my servers are running windows
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Western Digital sold a Fox card in the late 1980s that was supposed to provide acess up to four floppy drives -- was a dismal failure because the consultant sabotaged the software by switching off the floppy drive if the timer byte was say 0FEh to 0FFh -- the evidence is in the bios that was hardsoldered to those Fox cards
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: funny, i just installed opensuse on my eeepc because i couldn't get windows xp to connect to my ap, linux worked first try
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: eeepc was actually designed for linux
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I run some critical stuff on a NetBSD box, and then there are things like the barracuda filter, the bluesocket controllers, etc which are all linux-based
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: shrug, perhaps it did, but linux driver selection in my limited experience has been poor
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: stuff on the hal isn't even remotely covered by the linux kernels I've played with..a redhat I played with in the 90s was especially bad
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: 90s?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: but apparently redhat was infamous for it
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for business, the statement that there aren't drivers for some devices is bogus...for residential use, that's absolutely a sticking spot
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: Windows in the 90s was also especially bad.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: nogs..been a while since I was sufficeintly motivated to play with linux
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: actually chuft Linux these days has a better driver record for legacy hardware than windows.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: windows ME for the win!
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i don't -have- legacy hardware
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I used 98 se..the box redhat struggled so much with, it autoinstalled all the drivers for
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you are comparing linux in the 90s to now? that is like me saying that windows 95 sucked and not knowing anything about xp
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: windows ME didn't support 2/3rds of the hardware that was on the shelf even when it was being sold
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: You are much more likely to find a linux driver for something pre-2005 than you are a Vista driver
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: working ones, not necessarily the latest ones
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I never said linux sucked..that was all tigernuts ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: bravo for you, how many companies do you know of still running PCs from 5 years ago, think they might like Linux more than vista?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: best tool for the job, and don't consider all jobs equal :-)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I simply said every os has its place
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and for the most people, for people's desks, it's still windows
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: companies buy the hardware to fit the OS, not vice-versa
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: windows place is at the bottom of an active volcano :)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: Actually, Chuft, I quote you: "and linux probably isn't a good bet for a server 
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, the server comment was totally silly :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: and how is that different from saying "each os has its place"?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: perhaps you have issues with verbal comprehension?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you misquoted its place ;-)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a server is where linux is more at home
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: Because saying Linux isn't a good bet for a server is so far removed from reality it's laughable
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: that's debatable, abelinc, but at least you could parse the English :)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: or HP-UX, AIX or Solaris if you want support
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, it's not *successfully* debatable from your side
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: the statistics are in my favour, though ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no they're not
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: especially since you have no comprehension of what a server is
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since you think that it is somehow hardware
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and you guys have no comprehension of what a desktop is
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as evidenced by your router comments earlier
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: Statistics of what?  Most web servers run Linux.  Most of the Supercomputers in the world run Linux.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tigernuts, show me where I misplaced desktops?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: most clusters run linux
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: tigernuts, what if my desktop is *also* my porn server, then what do I run?!?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and for the record, I don't like linux. at all.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if you insinuate that desktops is linux's place, then you misplaced them
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: A sticky mess, Gonf
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: linux is a unix wannabe
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when did I insinuate that, tiger?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you lot have been all along by disagreeing with me
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I would NOT recommend linux for 90% of my friends
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that comment in itself completely vindicates my position
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: tnuts if you compare the features that the windows gui provides to what a standard windows/desktop manager in linux provides you would/should be shocked by how primitive windows is
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I disagreed heartily with your statements regarding reliability and fitness for *other* purposes
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: well, I can make xp very stable and with a very small memory footprint, and I don't really see the advantage a linux kernel would have for me
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for a different definition of stable, crufty
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: and certainly consulting for nt earns me plenty of pocket money, so apparently business likes it
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but the linux kernel would prolly have zero advantage for you
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: shrug, for the scope that i've been talking about, windows is by far the best for reliability and fitness
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: maybe for mud/net/porn
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: and what tn is trying to say is quite right, if we strip out the rhetoric
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no. not for porn actually
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: is only the best insofar as there's no alternative if people want to run legacy apps
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: indows is a lot easier to configure and use for some old granny who buys a pc from his ship
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: shop, too
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Most people are not computer experts, so their choices in which OS will be based on successful marketing rather than technical knowledge
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: an OS that needs to be rebooted weekly is at zero disadvantage if a company turns their computers off at night
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no, hargreaves, on experience
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nothing to do with marketing
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: Sucks for that company if they have a Web Server.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: actually, it's everything to do with marketing
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: but they had to back it up with product eventually, mostly by now they've succeeded
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: on experience? how about mac fanboys?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Absolutely not, if I asked the woman next door which OS she wants - she'll just say erm the one on my PC?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i can't help mac fanboys
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they're usually just poofs
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Honestly, Abelinc is a Mac fanboy, with extensive experience :-)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I never used macs except in physics labs in the 90s, and I detested them
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: nothing to with marketing? ms probably spends more on marketing than redhat has in total income
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: they're also underspecced and overpriced imho
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: You keep saying you haven't used anything but Windows for 10-20 years.  Do you really think your opinion holds water with that qualifier?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, a few years ago, I spec'd out an XServe and a Dell 1U server...the Apple was about half the cost
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: shrug..computers are a second career, try to imagine how little I really care about your opinion, unless you're paying me ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: people are either familiar with windows, or have stuff that already uses windows
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you can't get anything equivalent to the MacMini for less than double Apple's cost
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so why would they feel the need to replace all of their software, all of their hardware, AND be trained in a new set of software
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the MacPro is overpriced, always has been
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and then -hope- that it integrates with their suppliers/other people they're involved with?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Oh, you'd be stupid to not go where the money is - no point in trying to convert non-technically minded people to a different OS
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I confess my dislike of apple is largely historical or related to the consumer gimmicks such as the iphone and ipod
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I am quite ignorant of current apple architectures
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, oh, related to their most successful and popular products...interesting
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: hardware wise MAC was always good - it was the historical OS that had problems
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: yep..fashion gimmicks, an hp pda is quite superior to an iphone, in everything bar marketing, for example
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i just don't like the closed architecture of apple products
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not all that closed, really
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and no more than windows
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: more than ms products for sure
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: well, the ipod is upposed to be a portable music device, which you can't change the battery on ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: Apple only runs on Apple-approved hardware
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: a cunning design, that
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: or has that changed?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Apple deliberately sabotaged the PC version of the video readers that they provided -- 10mb perograms that ran as though molasses 
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: officially, yes lechter
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: video readers?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you mean quicktime?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: he's on about quicktime I guess
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if yours is running like molasses, then you've got other issues
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: yep, QuickTime on a PC ran slowly -- piece of crap
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: if you're running quicktime you have other issues even
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it didn't run slowly, and still doesn't
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: runs fine for me
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: lol, mmmm, quicktime
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: quicktime is horrible. can't even install the thing without itunes
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: Quicktime makes me throw up in my mouth a little.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Apple SlowTime is a better name
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: hardly my first choice of a video forma, but never had issues playing it back
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dagnir, what are you smoking?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: download quicktime to install it without itunes
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: pot, usually
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: For a while it was a bundle-only deal, Abel.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you download itunes, then yes, it'll install both :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no it wasn't
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: never
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh yes it was
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: quicktime for windows predated itunes
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: he means the official links from apple's website
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: 2004-2006 or so, The only Quicktime downloads offered included iTunes
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, the official links from apple's website, quicktime
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: since clearly that is the only way to obtain quicktime 
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i use vlc and haven't touched that couple for years now, but itunes used to be mandatory
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, vlc can't compare to itunes
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nope, but foobar can
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: pretty sure dagnir has a point, but I was using some ancient executable of quicktime pre vlc and haven't looked at apple's site
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: I use MPC.  Works fine for me.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mpc isn't even in the same category
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Striad Tech: i just googled xp quicktime download, and click on apples site, brings you to: http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/, they key is selecting the radio button for the donwloda that dose not have the "with Itunes" ... so yes you can download quicktime 7.5.5 w/o itunes 
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mpc would be like vlc
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: vlc is not the same category either, but you still compared them :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: And you're saying they're inferior how?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, you did dag :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they probably got told off by the same people who told microsoft they couldn't bundle Media Player or I/E or whatever crap jumped up charge it was
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm not saying they're inferior, I'm saying they're not doing the same job
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i was comparing it with quicktime. i was just bitching aboot the itunes part
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the Quicktime i used was circa 1999 2000 -- to view jpegs (or the apple format)  -- the more jpegs viewed, the slower the QuickTime 
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm glad i don't need quicktime or realplayer anymore
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: between wmp and winamp iot's all covered
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: wmp plays rm streams?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nothing i use now uses rm streams
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bbc now uses wmp
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: thank god
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: that's exactly the reason why they need to prevent ms from bundling wmp
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's not a reason at all
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You giggle.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: round 2
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: perhaps I should switch sides and root for linxu for the next round
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: hehe, root
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: i have a problem....
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik looks at Swangin and goes "Hmmmm."
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Did you try the cream?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: recently, ive been fleeing for absolutely no reason
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: check for scary faced monsters and wimpy
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do you have a script to auto-flee at a certain %?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: no
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: i have wimpy
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then it's not a tech issue :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: it is if im fleeing at 1200 hp
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type score to see your wimpy setting
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: 600 sumthin
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no it's not...if you don't have a script to do it, then it has nothing to do with here
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: 638
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: check the message when you flee, see if you're being spooked/intimidated
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: not so tech answer: mobs just make weird faces and since you dont see those as a ranger in a forest you flee in utter horror..wimpy as you are 
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: mkay
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: scary faces suck
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone good at finding service manuals free online?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I hear google's pretty good for that sort of thing :-)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i've heard that it runs on linux, too :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it can't...that would require servers.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: google is shit at finding that sort of thing
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, google is great at it...you're just shit at searching
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: try live search then
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they're both shit at finding it
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: find it for me, and i'll give you a banana
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'd be brown by the time it got past customs :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: brown ones smoke better
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you could try smoking a gorilla, but i hear they're quite strong
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: don't most countries destroy bananas?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: monkies are milder
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: I mean customs that is
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: the customs monkeys will eat it
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Smoke an orang-utan, they have a bit of a kick to them
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: canon pixma mp460 service manual, off you go :-) prove me wrong
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: found it
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: liar
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: settle down children
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and no, a user manual is not the same as a service manual
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: actually, i found it in a torrent
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: private site, tho
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: link pls, and we'll see if it is, or if it's just a trojan or porn
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the keyword was private
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: can't find one on google tho
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i found a site with just about every other model from 2007 backwards, just not this one
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and they want a subscription
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: bugmenot helps on firefox
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: despite the fact the material isn't theirs to sell
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: crap. no seeds. no trojans/porn for me :(
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you are a failure :-)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: join the club
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: i know, i cant help pit
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Onenmaru Tech: hiya peoples
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: what was the command to shorten (R)(G)(W)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: shortflags
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: thanks, it screwed up  my script lol
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Onenmaru Tech: i just bought maself an 8g flash drive
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Honestly, Abelinc wrote his script to work both ways :-)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you filthy swine
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: those are nice, they have some 32gig here for like 50-60 bucks
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You giggle in his presence.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: i need to grab one or two of those
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Onenmaru Tech: lol, i spent my crhistmas money on this one.. depressing
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Altannon Tech: how do i change font and font size in Mush client ?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: http://microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0292241
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: speeds are descent on em
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Onenmaru Tech: alt+5
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Onenmaru Tech: look under font
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Altannon Tech: thanks 
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Onenmaru Tech: np
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daimbert Tech: Does anyone have experience with psync?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}-SABU- Arystul Tech: I hate vista even more now
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: could someone quote the Quest announcement for me to set a trigger pls?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: personal quest
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: QUEST: You may now quest again.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: thanks.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik whines pathetically about everything.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: that's tnuts perogative
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik apologizes profusely.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: I need some perl help. I'm referencing a hash with a 2d array, like so: $brd[$ltr][$num+$i] = \$sh{$nm}{hp}[$i];
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Then I have: print "$i -- $$brd[$ltr][$num+$i] -- (54, \$i is $i)\n";
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: And after that, I have: print $sh{$nm}{hp}[$i] . " (77)\n";
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: The latter print works... the former doesn't.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Any ideas?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: try ${$...}
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: in the first one
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: ${$brd}[$ltr][$num+$i] you mean?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: ${$brd[$ltr][$num+$i]}
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: errr
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: jk
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon goes, "Heh."
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: I can't figure out why the reference isn't working.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: why can't you do $brd[$ltr][$num+$i]?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Because you have to dereference it...
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: what is brd
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Just a 2d reference array
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: If you don't dereference it, you get ugly things like SCALAR(0x10014f30)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: thats what $brd[$ltr][$num+$i] prints?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Yes
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Because it's a reference to $sh{ab}{hp}[$i]
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: what happens if you do ${$brd[$ltr][$num+$i]}
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I like that idea
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: I'm pretty sure that will try to access the variable $SCALAR(0x10014f30)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: But I'm game...
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: DO IT
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: That's what you want to do   :p
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: well the scalar is a ref, so ${} derefs it
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: LEGASP
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon goes "WHEE!" and dances around Ramier.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: i was right in the beginning!
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ramier goes, "Heh."
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Ramier wins a umm... cookie! no wait, I have no cookies. He wins a... a free Scheme program!
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ramier points at Apprentice Oladon and whispers 'she seems somewhat confused don't ya think?'
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon goes, "Heh."
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: be careful ramier, she's gonna suck you into her flist of techie helpers!
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: What's the difference between DVD-R and DVD+R?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Dashiell Tech: a vertical line
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: hah
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: 2R
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as long as both the burner and the reader support both, nothing significant
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik smiles happily.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Thanks ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: http:/www.dvddemystified.com/dvdfaq.html#4.3
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: (and onward for a ways)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: I think theoretically, the + variants have minor media advantages.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I went with -, for the price. I was just curious-- I'll look at the link-- thanks!
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: I doubt the difference would really matter.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: For some reason, the +s were double the price
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: could someone send me a tell please, i need to test my tell channel capture. thnx
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: thnx
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: trying to make a trigger that will warn me when i am real low on HP but not having any luck. trying to use the %h for the HP andthefollowingas the pattern of a trigger '#IF (%h < 1500) {#BEEP}' what whould i be looking into to do this?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: what client?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: zmud
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Uh, for one, you shouldn't be using %h in ANYTHING.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Except MUDside prompt.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: try 
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: try @w
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: ok was thinking that is a VAR for the bprompt
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: try @h
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: stupid parsing
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: #TRIGGER {(%d)/%dhpblah blah blah} {#IF (%1<500) {#BEEP}} -- mind you, it'll beep a lot until it's brought back up.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: then how do i get my current HP to that VAR?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: best thing to do is actually use statmon, not prompt :-)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods at you in agreement. 
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: #VAR h
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: is statmon in zmud or is that a script?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: ... Statmon is a MUDside command.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's in the MUD itself
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Try reading 'help statmon' :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's what fiendish's gauge script uses for its info
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it (like tags) exists solely to be machine/script read
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: ok i use hisscript, doesn't thatmean the HP are alreadyina VAR thati can use? or no
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: add #VAR h %1 to that trigger
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Inferno - you're way behind. That's not even needed.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: ok
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: from his script...#VARIABLE stat_healthpercent %13
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so just use that var
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: okthnx
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: not having much luck with a low HP warning trigger. Is thenameof the #TRIGGER the #IF statement like this '#IF (a_stats_curhp < 4500) {#BEEP}' or where do i put that #IF?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: tried adding it to the VAR it self but itkept deleteing it from the VAR
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: nm I finally got it!
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkish Tech: anyone know if, in an alias, you set an alias for /(var) to be able to use the word dirrectly after the / instead of having to do a / (var
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkish Tech: that space is annoying me
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: statmon replaces everything i need into my statwin except for qtimer, I see that in my prompt, but not in statmon
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, statmon rules :-)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: its awesome, any way to get qt to my statwin?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: should be able to capture it to a global var from your prompt and have that global var show up in your window
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can get rid of prompt altogether if autotick is often enough for you to update that value for your tastes
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: is autotick every 30 secs?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Yes
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: is it possible to use the #TIMER command and set it up for 30min then show it in my statwin?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: or should i concentrate on cap qt from prompt
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Nuther perl question, for all you insomniacs. I've got a hash %gm{sh}, such that its constituents are actually $gm{sh}{<key>}. How can I use this with "for $i (keys %gm{sh})" - that gives a syntax error
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: +?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: keys $gm{sh})
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Dur.  @($gh{sh})
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: foreach
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon looks at Not an Imm Erikson and goes "Hmmmm."
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Dur even more, % not @
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Misread it.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Remember, there are no multi-dimensional data structures in perl.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: LIES!
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Hashes and arrays only contain scalars.  If that scalar is a reference to an {array,hash} and you need to treat it as an {array,hash}, you have to deref it.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon peers intently at Not an Imm Erikson.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: I don't think you're right... that didn't work by the way.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: I use multi-dimensionals all the time.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: you need
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: foreach
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: not for
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: No you don't.  foreach is just syntactic sugar.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: I've got %gm{sh}{<key>}{hp}[x], and I use it like that - those aren't references.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: And no, I'm right.  You just think you are.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: uh, foreach and for are the same in perl?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: You use to have to $gh{sh}->{<key>}->{hp}->[x] in p4.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Perl's been past p4 for a loooooooong time. :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: wtf, no, for() is the same as for() in C
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: p5 makes the derefs in between subscripts implicit, so you don't need the extra arrows anymore.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: no way is it the same as foreach
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: http://www.gnulamp.com/perlloop.html
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: for (1..3) { print "$_n" }
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: (with the backslash my client ate: "
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: (with the backslash my client ate: "$_\n")
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Anyway.  The point is that array or hash elements are always and only scalars.  A hash can't be an element of a hash; only a reference to a hash can be.  And so if you need to treat that as a hash, you have to deref it.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: BTW, Ramier: "The foreach  keyword is actually a synonym for the for  keyword, so you can use foreach  for readability or for  for brevity."
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: http:/perldoc.perl.org/perlsyn.html#Foreach-Loops
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ramier blinks innocently.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone really good at finding stuff on the internet here?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Striad Tech: what you need todo its turn itinto a trivia game, and youll get lots of information =)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: heh
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Yeah, always plenty of googlers in trivia
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Any recommended tools for live HDD repartitioning? for Windows?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: hirens cd has a series of em
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Striad Tech: unerase?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Striad Tech: it may be called un-delete been a long time since ive used it
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik sits down and thinks deeply. 
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Actually... I guess there's something built into Vista which will work
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what was it you wanted to do?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Add a partition
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: involving resizing an existing one?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: vista have fdisk?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grasshacker Tech: Mustn't it?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Yes, I have one large partition, and I want two mediums instead
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: use the disk management snap-in to the microsoft management console
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: acronis partition manager, part of the hirens boot cd - OS independant
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: works a treat
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone found me the canon mp460 service manual yet?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I did it!
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Thanks for the partition advice all :)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: scream
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You're not the boss of me!
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: anyone besides charneus alive on here
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik shrugs helplessly.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm alive and angry
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: zmud script - writes to window, but window keeps focus afterwards anyway to prevent that besides going to cmud
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: You are angry EVERY day :D
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I'd tell you how, Huck, but you want someone other than me.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: lol, because your solutions involves (goto cmud)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Nah. I figured it out last night. *blink*
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: but if i goto cmud id just bug you how to convert all my scripts
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Mines not better -- it's go to MUSHclient
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: well what is it
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus pats Im your Huckleberry on his head.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalax Tech: i have cmud, just no scripts to even convert :-p
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Huckleberry Tech: anyone besides charneus alive on here
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I'm afraid I can't answer that question.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Totalia Tech: well, i am a living being yes,
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: how incredibly frustrating
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: dunno where else to look, tbh
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: any suggestions?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: canon always were crappy
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bunch of money-grabbing, earth polluting arse-bandits
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik grabs some popcorn and sits back to watch the show.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: there isn't a show, canon cancelled it
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: this isn't the first time i've had reason to gripe about canon, either
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: come back, hewlett packard, all is forgiven
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Nope, not the first time you've had to gripe :D
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i rarely gripe without reason
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they even turned off their ftp site
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: there we go, alternate solution no.1 used
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Has anyone been insane enough to try the Windows 7 beta?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: My friend is in the beta, he says it's pretty good
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik goes, "Hmmmm."
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone used ultransonic cleaning tanks before?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: are ultransonic tanks suitable for cleaning computer components?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: i use caustic soda
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I installed Windows 7..
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: are you ready for suicide yet ?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: does ctrl+alt+del really make Hitler blink?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik grins evilly at Ilidar.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Checking that now :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Nope :D
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: i heard windows 7 will be to vita what 98 was to 95
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: He's doesn't blink, Ilidar
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: a big improvement?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what is your assessment so far?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: so he just stares at you?  creepy
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: more like more fluffy you dont need, and some bug fixes
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: 98 was far more stable than 95, IIRC
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Uhm, nothing impressive yet, but it hasn't broken yet either
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: someone should tell microsoft wat and operating system is for
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what is an operating system for?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: i dun remeber paintbrush being part of it
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: basic framework for you to be able to use your computer
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: You have to remember that antitrust agents are watching their every move, they can't implement something too revolutionary that their rivals don't have
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: an os is  software to allow abstraction and interface to hardware resources for application software
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: if it's supposed to be a basic framework why have they bundled IE and WMP?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: nice cut and paste :p
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they are producing a product for people to use, not for some geek to define
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: umm no thats not cut and paste...   i just know my busines
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the only mistake they made was not having those applications selectable upon install
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: In microsofts eyes, paying customers > tech enthusiasts
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: agreed different market
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Totalia Tech: *nod at arghead*
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: and in MS' eye any method to get extra market however illegal is good
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: laws are ill-defined, and usually a bit pointless
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: where this is concerned
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: Their primary markets are the corporate software market and the casual user market, they don't so much cater to people who use it on a heavily tech-related basis
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: regardless the law is law, get it changed if you don't like it
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: that goes for all sales ppl...
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you're the one moaning about it
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: morality and legality are not high on sales and marketings priorities
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: the law is however you can scrunch it up and lay it out in your benefit
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: Also, what kind of illegal methods of gaining sales did you have in mind?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: moaning at m$ for bundinling wmp is kinda pointless, and doesn't affect sales at all
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so using that as an argument is a non-starter
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: I know plenty of non-technical people, barely computer literate even, who still refuse to use IE and use firefox or other browsers
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: The 'MS bundles software' argument for their immorality is pointless, because it's not effective
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: ask the european union about that, lol
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: argead they are just sheep listening to their peers
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Totalia Tech: nods IE is and always has been POP-UP CENTRAL
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yes, but you forget about what the EU government is - completely rubbish
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: I'm hating apple right now.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's got france and germany in it, says it all
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: the EU can go to hell :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's a beurocratic nonsense
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: some say it's already there
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: EU is just another big business 
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Totalia Tech: EH ?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Totalia Tech: EU^?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: if it wasn't for the eu, the uk would be the fiftieth whatever state of the us
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: don't be silly
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: What are you talking about?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: funny, it was the EU which stopped the international phone call rip off
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: all the EU has done for us is make the recession worse
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: haha now your deliberately trying to annoy big nuts
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: Economic restrictions and pointless statutes left right and center
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if it wasn't for the chinese opium trade, USA would still be part of the empire
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: lmao... i assume you are american ?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Totalia Tech: off euro union, i agree limited trade to us tremondously
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: and the right hand drive cars are more expensive rip off
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: yeah tigernuts is an american
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: right hand drive cars are far better than american ones
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: he doesnt like those toffee nosed english :p
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: that's because the uk decided not to join the eurozone, and sterling has plummeted against the euro, if exporters don't take advantage of the weak sterling whose fault it is?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Totalia Tech: not ours.....
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: weak sterling is good for some, bad for others
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what upset people was the speed of change, not the change itself
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: It's got nothing to do with the Euro, the EU has been about economic bureaucracy since it was founded
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: bad for the people who jet off to the us to pick up bargains
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: heh, yeah, now they come here instead
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: just a shame that Labour effectively killed off what little manufacturing we still had here
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Totalia Tech: *emotes is an american*
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: Honestly I doubt the Conservatives could have done any better...they're both as bad as each other
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: jeez, maggie did most of the hardwork of killing off manufacturing
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you can't really say that though, because they haven't been in charge
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: True, but Cameron looks like an incompetent and their campaign generally runs on the basis of 'vote for us, we're not labour!'
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'd sort it out, should put me in charge, me and the queen
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: should feed the queen to her corgies
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: The queen does very little these days except stamp legislation and go on tours
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if they want to have an impact on british business, they'd ditch N/I
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: and get money from the government :p
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: what is n/i?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: then who'll pay for the NHS?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: national insurance contributions, originally designed to pay for health cover/pensions/sick leave
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: but now it's just a tax on employers and employees
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: lots of stuff they could do, but it's all so radical that they'd not get it past the chav public
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: The chav public aren't poltically active, though
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they are
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: other thing that should be done is disband the scottish parliament
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: I'm more annoyed about the fact that the Scottish get stuff like free university tuition for Scots only using our tax money
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: exactly, they're either independant or they're not
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: The Scottish Parliament is a drain on resources so it should probably go too
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if they're independant, then they can bugger off
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: if you dont want another uprising from the scots it's probly wise to let the small stuff slide
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i think there should be a target across government to cut the amount of managers and consultants by 80%
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and alter the pay scale so that none of the remaining ones get more than 75k a year
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: they like some of their north sea oil money back before they go
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: aha, another uprising, they're not highlanders anymore they're just overweight city people like us
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: so it'll be fatty vs fatty, like in borat
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what makes them think the north sea oil is theres?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: Worst they could do would be like the IRA
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they couldn't be like the IRA - they haven't got America funding them
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: That's true, americans don't give a crap about the scottish
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: americans can be duped, but very few support terrorists 
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: yeah america cares about the ira for the same reason they care about isreal.... lots in immigrants
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if you argue that scotland is due a fair proportion of north sea oil revenue, based on population they'd get, what, 8%?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: You'd  be surprised, IRA got tons of donations through their legitimate fronts in America
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: Fake irish charities and so on
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: hopefully the IRA is put to bed now
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: based on territory not population
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well you can't base it on territory, since that's irrelevant
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: The IRA is still alive but it's broken into so many little splinter groups all bickering with each other that they'll never be a threat
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: israel is not terrorist
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: violent yes, terrorist no
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: lol, the IRA are not terrorists, they are freedom fighters  (ducks and runs)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: thats like saying Hitler wasn't all that bad
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: indiscriminate murder = terrorist = israel
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grasshacker Tech: Hah.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: It's more like 'lack of concern for collateral damage' than 'indiscriminate murder' I think
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grasshacker Tech: Indiscriminate? Compared to whom exactly?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: well it all depends on whose propaganda you choose to believe doesnt it ?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: what does any of this have to do with technology?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: agreed, argead
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: IRA has shown itself to be a mobster enterprise, at least in this american's opinion
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: Pretty politically active for mobsters
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: no comparison needed, definition doesn't mention comparisons
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: and my surname is from county cork
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: israel are doing the only thing they can, really
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: The main branch of the IRA has had peace talks with the government a long time ago and they've improved the rights of the catholics in NI so they've mostly disbanded now
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: IRA are doing the only thing they can, really
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: mobsters are politically active, go where the money is
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redreaver Tech: so is this some new computer program or something?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: they're doing all the killing they can except withdraw from occupied land
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they could, but that'd not solve anything
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: To be fair, the catholics were treated pretty badly in NI but that doesn't excuse terrorism
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: someone tell me what justifies british occupation by force in ireland ?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: we're not occupying ireland
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: ???
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: please say 'oil'
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: someone tell me what justifies political debate on tech channel?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grasshacker Tech: Not enough people running Vista.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: consensus
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: windows 7 justifies political debate
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: the power of greyskull justifies political debate
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anything that has technicalities can be discussed here
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redreaver Tech: the world should declare war on america for inventing windows 7
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: technically
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: America didn't invent W7, Microsoft did
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: Democratic Republic of Redmond
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grasshacker Tech: We keep printing money like this, and MS will be able to buy America.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: yes but microsoft are a repersentative group of americans
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: ms didn't invent w7 they just stole the bits they needed from elsewhere
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I don't see anything wrong with Windows 7 yet, except that UAC is still here
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: first you tell us how crap it is, now you're saying it was stolen
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: it be stolen crap ?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: both true
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: W7 is fine, don't complain about what you haven't used
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: And I can't save into C:\ :<
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: vista sucks therefore w7 sucks
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: more to the point ms sucks therefore ...
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: What do you propose as a better alternative?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone heard if M$ are doing a low footprint version for webbooks?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: I think I heard something about an OS for webbooks, but I have no specifics
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: webbooks and older boxes
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: if they did then they would have to change the definition of webbooks
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: www.reactos.org    lmao
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: namely, systems that don't have 2 gig of ram, dual core cpu and 3d graphics
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: webbooks, lower power boxes, integrated systems, industrial pc's, etc
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: win98 ?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: windows is so crap it needs 1 core just for itself
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: better configurability out of the box for windows would be nice, cut out all those bloody services you don't need
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: Windows is crap compared to what? I've used Linux and while I'm sure it's great for programmers and whatnot it's not compatible with enough things to be apt for casual use
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: welcome to the real world, argead
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: And I'm sure I don't even have to say anything about Mac
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you'll never get the linux fanboys to understand that
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: 'windows being crap' does not imply 'you should use X alternatve'
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: Even my friend who is a programming enthusiast only uses Linux for servers
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: No, but generally if you think something is  crap you have something in mind that is better
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's hard to deduce whether the fanboys hate m$ because their products aren't good, or because they hate the fact that m$ are a profitable big business and most popular
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: they are tools not a religion, use what works
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: no i have a fair idea how windows could be improved... but it wont happen
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's somewhat green-eyed monsterish if you ask me
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'd settle for getting rid of the long wifi log-on pause in xp
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: then use linux
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: or BSD or macOS or freedos
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: my kids berate me for loggin on to the home net while they're playing WOWarcraft
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Wait... shouldn't parents be teaching their kids to mud?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: setup a gateway box with rate shaping
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: how about 'sod the kids, who pays for this stuff anyway?'
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: I'm WOWarcraft challenged
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: agree with tiger... tell the kids STFU or no WoW for a week
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: i dunno about the fanboys but i hate ms because their products are crap, even more so considering how much resources are at their disposal to make a good product
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's a matter of opinion
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Office is a good product
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Crayze screams loudly!
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: office is, with the exception of publisher
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: and not content with producing crap, they have to resort to illegal tactics to maintain/increase their market share
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Argead nods at Rathik.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: Illegal tactics?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: illegal tactics, rofl
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: terrorist geeks
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i installed ubuntu and it came with Firefox! Sue them!
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: damn the communist US govt for limiting monoplies and oligoplies.... free market wins
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: they were convicted, remember? until bush let them off the hook, it's disgusting how the legal system in the us can be politically manipulated
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: he let them off because it was a nonsense case brought by whiners
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: all legal systems can be manipulated by cash, hardly a surprise
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: tnuts you're choosing to be deliberately stupid, firefox is not intimately intertwined with the OS as MS claims IE is with windows
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: hasn't been entwined since the days of win98
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: Microsoft is considered evil to an almost folkloric level, if they ever did something illegal then they wouldn't get away with it
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: you don't need firefox to update ubuntu, but you need IE to update windows
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no you don't
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: The development of W7 is being watched carefully to make sure they're not breaking any antitrust laws
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: lol IE   'IS"  intertwined with the OS, but that was deleberatly done with IE4
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: and no, Windows update just runs in the system tray and doesn't require IE
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: vista's update system doesn't use IE at all
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and what argead said
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: i don't see any windows update in my win98 
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: why do people dredge up IE 4 ... that was many years ago and antitrust cases ago .. problem was rectified
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: just to troll, you don't need IE.  You need a browser that supports activeX.  I have a nifty plugin that lets me run windows update from firefox
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: you do know that windows explorer and interner explorer are the same thing right ?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: in my win98 system tray that is
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ok, so we've completely blown this argument out of the water then
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: Win98 isn't sold or supported anymore, so your point is moot
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i redirect the people present to a point made earlier: They're rich and successful, it's not fair! waahH!
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: and ms has the audacity to claim that they have a right to "innovate" when all the innovation they've ever done was to work out new ways to get around the law to peddle more of their filth
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: tigernuts, there is some of that attitude but also a general point which says
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: that the free market fails once one corporation gets too large
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: They can't innovate anymore, people would get on their case for 'monopolizing'
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: sadly, this happens all the time
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: they never have innovated
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: there is no around the law .. either something is legal or not
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: I seriously doubt personal computers would have become mainstream without windows
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you wouldn't have had the level of common knowledge without windows
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: for that you need a common element, and windows was it
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: Let's face it, if you stick most people in front of Unix they will have the same kind of reaction most adults have when asked to do stuff they learned in maths class
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: hench microsoft is your saviour :p
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: the next new thing in home computing "reliability".
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: microsoft have NEVER innovated anything.... starting from dos v1 which billy essential brought off a mate
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: unfortunately trying to prove a company is doing something illegal is often difficult, as smaller companies whom MS has by the balls would be very reluctant to testify against them
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: right, Argead, you are right, I see that all the time when people use a mac
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: microsoft is a business, not an inventor
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they innovate only as far as their revenue streams require
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: When innovation is profitable, they innovate. Corporations are not inherently good or evil, they are just profit-making enterprises
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: name a few things that were the result of ms' innovation ?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: The development of Win 95 for example opened up a whole new profitable market
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: where was the innovation in win95?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: Name another GUI OS at the time?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: ????
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: MacOS
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: microsofts existance inhibits progress
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I'm really only knowledgable about web development, but innovations in that area from MS include AJAX and the ever popular .innerHTML
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: riscos
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: technically ;-)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: Yhogurk, you were right 15 years ago, but now MS has an enormous research budget, who are very innovative. Innovation is like anything else, you can buy it if you want and MS has done so in spades over the last 15 years
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: from wat i can tell all major microsoft innovations have involved buying out small garage based operations
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: partly my point swalec, practically all the innovative stuff were bought by ms (and usually subsequently made crap)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: Why is buying out small garage based operations a bad thing? It brings an innovation most people would never notice to the general public
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: they didn't buy the innovative stuff, they employed the people
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: so in house innovation from ms anyone?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i liked visio, personally
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: most times they just stole the innovations actually
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: didnt say it was bad... i am saying they dont innovate, they buy out the innovation of others
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: lots of stuff with fonts, architectures for web services, digitial libraries
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: visio was bought, anyone else?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: The fact is that anything made by tiny businesses that is innovative will never have the economies of scale which would make it feasible to distribute that innovation throughout the market
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: workflows, memories for life
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nt
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: hotmail
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: fact is ms will make damned sure they don't
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: msn messenger
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: ms was small once
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: hotmail was bought too, actually
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: have a look at some of the enormous amount of stuff coming out of microsoft research
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: like what happened to netscape
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: yeah dos v1 by microsoft was a tiny operation that had no chance
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: MS Basic
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: hotmail was bought (tnuts surely you can do better?)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: anyone remember stacker ?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: the point is that now, for the mass market, innovation is not so releavant, people want stability. It's just the small scale, sub billion markets where innovoation happens
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: ms basic was possibly the only thing that ms has produced entirely on their own :)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: anyway, I have to go eat. Enjoy the conversation
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: doublespace vs stacker :)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: lol at billy writing basic for the altair
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: nobody can name any innovations produced at ms? that is sad
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: i know i cant  
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: I think we've all realized you're just going to ignore any that are suggested
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: lol
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: i saw ajax mentioned, however i doubt the verifiablity of that
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: There were many innovations by IE in the 90s which are extremely useful today
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: I think the innovation argument borders on religious zealotizm
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: stuff that are bought in definitely don't count, yes they make some nice readable fonts but that's hardly innovation
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: it's a tool use it if it fits the budget and needs
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: all these wonderful free linux based operating systems around, yet somehow microsoft manage a multibillion dollar business selling windows..clearly ms suck and yhogurk is right, people just buy windows out of pity :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: no they buy it to look cool :p
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: and start fights with pro linux friends only!
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: chuft as tnuts always say people want to run their windows apps that's a big disincentive to change
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: no people buy windows because of the herding instinct
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: I have it cause my freinds haveit ( and my accountant, and my banker, and my suppliers)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: isn't openoffice pretty much completely compatible with ms office? those being the core productivity ms apps?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: I have linux because it's fun
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: that's why in areas where there are few legacy issues linux reign supreme
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: Openoffice is awful
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: The subtle difference being that Openoffice is a piece of crap
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: Yay, great, it's open source and free. You get what you pay for, evidently.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: lol you will find 'the you get what you pay for' argument is flawed
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Plenty of great FOSS projects out there, Openoffice just isn't one of them yet
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: It wasn't an argument, I was just being snarky
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: lol you just ebrassed yourself
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: who has time to learn and then teach a second word processor pr
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: read the eula for ms products, are you allowed to sue them for downtime? lost productivity because of security holes? thought not
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: If that makes you feel better.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft gives Kad a nod, saying, "OK".
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: oh, so I guess you're allowed to sue linux for downtime? interesting
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: you pay ms for a product that you expect to work, i paid nothing for my copy of linux
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: read your EULA
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: downtime .. how long does it take the linux developer community to write software to imitate the ms software .. can you sue for that lose of productivity too ?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: did anyone claim to "write software to imitate the ms software"? and did you pay them to?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: and of course linux builds are always wonderful and entirely free of security holes, so the lack of support for patching them is irrelevent
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: precisely
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: redhat/novell offer paid support and timely updates
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: very few vendors are stupid enough to claim bug free and security flaw free software
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: including the free ones
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: what's the help command for atreidess's quest tracker?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: is there a way to change the number of termial lines aard thinks i have?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: pagesize?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: perfect thanks
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pulsar Tech: hi all
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pulsar Tech: im having trouble finding a mac client that works :( any advice? 
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: i know mac ppl that use tinyfugue
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik nods at Kad.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pulsar Tech: I tried to install that already but it says you need developer tools to be able to configure it. The ./configure does not work in my unix terminal
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: try sending abelinc a tell, he'll get back to you when he's around, he's a tinyfugue guru
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pulsar, did you go to the site where it tells you about a pre-done Mac binary?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trashbat! Anipopo perks up, something must have grabbed his attention.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: lol, see!
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: oh, that's a mac issue, not a tf issue :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pulsar Tech: Abelinc: nope not I can check into that, I dont know much about macs to be honest, this is my work computer
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: try google 'tinyfugue mac binary'
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://tinyfugue.sourceforge.net/
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: sourceforge is the source of all holyness
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to the part where it talks about the druware binaries for windows...he's got a Mac binary as well
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pulsar Tech: will do thanks!
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it used to mention the Mac one, looks like that's missing now that it's hosted at sourceforge
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: anyone here know how to make a trigger in mushclient?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: i could use some pointers on what i want to do
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lightpath, game -> configure -> triggers
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: yeah, but the thing is that i'm trying to make a couple different triggers
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: at the very top slim part, put the pattern to match...in the giant white part, put what you want it to send to the MUD
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: trigger = shift-ctrl-8
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: i want one that when its quest time it will tell me
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: how would i do that?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: i tried with a timer, but the timer keeps getting off track
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why use a timer, trigger on the you can quest message...just paste it into that slim box
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: ooooh ok
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: cool thanks lemme try that
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phlox Tech: Abelinc, for mushclient - do u know how to disable not one but a group of triggers, i could disable them one-by-one, but is there a quick way to do it by group..?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: You can do it by script, if you provide a group name in each of your triggers
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phlox Tech: i don't know how to script :(
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: ok i think i did it :)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: For scripts, how would i send words to the MUD?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: lol carefull, gettin close to the unholy botting
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: lol its not for botting
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: would you just write the text in like normal?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: or would i have to specify a destination... or what
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: read this for starters - http://my.win.psu.edu/jkd10/scripting.html
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: nobody knows how to do that?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: that explains everything?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: all languages are compatible?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not everything, but it teaches you the basics so you could think for yourself
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: kk then
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: i'll check it out
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you're using zmud, right?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: nope :9
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: umm thats for zmud, is that relevant ?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: i'm using MUSHclient
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ok, then find a lua guide like this
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: theres a whole forum and tutorial set on Gammon's website
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: for MUSh?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: yes
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: since Mr Gammon is Mr Mush - yes
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: kk
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pulsar Tech: woo got TF installed thanks! Now I just gotta figure out how to use it :)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: Oh i have a question not about scripting
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: can i set off other alias's through alias's?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: yes
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: yep
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: absolutely
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: in musclient
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: make sure its mush :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: lol
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: it's a pretty basic functionality of almost all clients
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: Just send to execute instead of world
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: aaaah Beautiful
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: Woo lol lemme try something now :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: so basicly you can make a bunch of like, Sub-routines with alias's and have triggers set them off ect.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: Or you could go even deeper and script with LUA
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: yep, about the closest zmud comes to function handling..no idea about mushclient
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: if you script with LUA whats stronger about it?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: because i would have to learn LUA
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: actually chuft, functions are different, and zmud supports them
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: functions return a value
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: lua is a very trivial language to learn and use..no variable typing etc
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: or perform a task
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Lua, not LUA ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: and with some tricky business, you can make functions run aliases too
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: i like LUA
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: sounds fun :p
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: can you just run it with VBbasic?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: Just go through the Lua tutorials on Gammon's site
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: that has Functions and Sub-routines :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: You'll learn a lot
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: kk i'll take a look
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: there are quite a few Aardwolf scripts and plugins there, too, that you can learn from
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: do you know the direct link to the tutorial?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: because i can't seem to find it XD
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: found it
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: strike that
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pulsar Tech: argh, something still isnt right. It is telling me it doesnt have a world, but I am configuring it with the info from the Aardwolf main page. hmmm
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: heh
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: so is the cmud ddocumentation as crap as the zmud?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: depends on your definition of crap
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: most commands have a single line and occasionally an example
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: i've always preferred working from language references
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: i was reading help botting
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: the cmud documentation is more complete though i think, it's updated regularly and has community input these days
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: yeah, well the zmud laguage reference leaves a lot to be desired 
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: and i kinda was seeing the rules
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: i need some clarification
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: I hate in z/cmud the fact that the param names are often complete bogue
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: bogus too
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: if i was to make a scrip that would run to the questor, then i would manually have to ask him for a quest
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: after i did that, it would auto run me to the area of the quest
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: would tha tbe botting?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft goes, "Heh."
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: would that be botting*
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I hope not..my quest script is considerably more involved and runs me to the room :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <sarcasm> Forestseer flashes a mischievous grin at Iron Duck Chuft.  Hmm. is it time to run and hide?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: actually, it's pretty simple really, just an sql query, but still
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: so long as human interaction is required..mapping the run to f1, for example, it's fine
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: and never put "kill mob" at the end of one of those aliases
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: so how would i scrip something like that?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: in mushclient, you wouldn't
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: start with smaller stuff lightpath
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: guess so :p
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: you could actually chuft :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: why couldn't i do it in mush?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: not using the mapper, but you could
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: there's a lua/mysql dll around
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: thy a hunting or rearming script first
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: if you build a roomwalk db
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: you could, using a complete mobdb, but not the way I do it
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: in theory, you could convert a zmud map into the sql that would be needed to do it from mush
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: i had quite a bit of it converted at one stage
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: heh..reading the rooms etc from a zmud map db is trivial with sql
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: i mean the actual pathfinding
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: but buildildng shortest path directional strings..bit of a pain
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: but who cares about the shortest path?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: me
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: chuft
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: why?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: ninja
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: see help gquest
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: it could be done but I'd want to use a proper language for anything that complex..been working on a map prettyprinter that draws jpgs on the fly from a zmud map db, I guess that's close
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: what about help gqeust?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: that's the main reason for having shortest paths
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: aah ok
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: no wonder people are so fast with the gquests :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: so they have a scrip that runs em to each and every mob :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: Lucky bums
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: lol
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: to be fair
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I know ninja's scripts are better than mine, and I'd imagine fs's are too, I get bored once the problem is solved , heh
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: there's a hell of alot of work in setting that stuff up
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i only have a subwalk db and good memory. but i suck at globals, too
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: i can imagine
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: nah..pretty trivial once you have the maps
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: you know what, i'm seriously thinking about switching to ZMUD
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: making and maintaining thew maps, however, is a lot of work
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: actually chuft, i run a portal-handling script, and a roomsearch script for my gquests, never had the patience for mobwalks :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: where can i Download it so i can take a look at it
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: so i'd say wed have about the same
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: heh..that's how mine does it currently, fs..just working on building in filters based on area ranges
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: zuggsoft.com
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: false matches in areas way out of range are annoying
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: ya, i got no filters
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: and ya, they are :)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: the most complex part of mine atm is probably the paged system for display/selecting the room from the query
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: but it's pretty trivial to enable a script based on where to run to any given mob..so long as it doesn't have stupidass roomnames which are duplicated across half the mud
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: "Guard -> The Hallway"
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: #$%^%#!#*%@w
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: also worked on a search spiral which calculates shortest path to the next unchecked room dynamically..kind of a travelling salesman thing for continent mobs
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: if only \zmud supported proper multidimesnsional arrays
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: sounds nice
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silverlyn Tech: I made A trig  and it's not working, anyone here got mush client
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: i had one that reported unmapped rooms
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: useful for finding clanexits
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: it'd be a snap if zmud supported ture array structures, it's a bit of a pain using straight zscript
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: shoudl look on the forums chuft
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: vigilante released a pretty complex script iirc
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: for hashsets arrays etc
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: eh..no real need, one can hack it with a basic bubblesort loop struct that sorts 2 arrays at once
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: the keyword of course, being hack :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I just sincerely hope the cmud ide type environment has been improved, the zmud one is a bit crap ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: it takes getting used to
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: but it's nice
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: the beta for cmud 3
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: just been released
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: the zuggsoft.com thats to download CMUD?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: allows multiple "markers" on the map at once
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: Cmud is what, better than Zmud?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: zmud is unsupported
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: cmud is almost identical
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: few new features
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: if I weren't so lazy I'd try using that java based client and write a mapper plugin for it..I am sure a basic mapper wouldn't be too hard to do in java
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: how's cmuds window management?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: zmud has the worst ever
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <sarcasm> Forestseer shrugs helplessly.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: i'm looking at the screen it looks kinda cool
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: cmud sounds far too much like work..such a pain for me to convert
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: they both always did what i needed
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: but i never ran 50 windows at once
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: if you're a new player cmud is probably a good bet, but it's far too much effort for me currently
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: cmud is a good bet when you format and lose a bunch of stuff anyways
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: heh..got plenty of zmud backups, even in the us etc :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: OMG
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: i need to pick!
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: i got backups, just not the most recent stuff
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: i can't have so much arguing!
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: freak it! i'm staying with MUSH
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: i'll learn how to work it
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: well, that just gets backed up along with the rest of my working drives once a week to the external hdd
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: so far that's been good enough
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: i'll just get a friend of mine to do all my scripts for me
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: maybe i should add my cmud to svn
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: i know a computer genius :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: bah..using other people's scripts is no fun
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <sarcasm> Forestseer snickers softly.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: lol
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: half the point of mudding is doing your own ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i backup all important program settings daily after i managed to get rid of my zmud and firefox settings that i've had for 3 years
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: it is when hes a computer genius!
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Being a computer genius doesn't mean you can write scripts nor convert them.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: Well, we shall see sir
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I'm not a computer genius, I'm a physicist, computers are just a hobby :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: really?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: whats 2 + 2 then
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: that might help you get into zugg's head and figure wtf he was doing in a few spots.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: it depends on what modulus you're adding in
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft sighs.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: everyone uses base3 right?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: you woke up the mathematician..you fool!
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: Don't try play silyl buggers here, too many silly buggers to play back LightPath
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: you got woken up, chuft?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: Woah, you lost me there
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I'm sorry. 2+2 does not compute in binary.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: tech proof that 2=1 :     http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invalid_proof#Proof_that_2_.3D_1_2
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: is false
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: isn't it time to put felt back in jail?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: can't divide by 0
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: notice the word 'invalid'
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: .....
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: now, if you prove that majic can cook I'll be impressed
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: lol you can divide by zero !  it's just the result is undefined !
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: you gained weight while you were here
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: you do the proofs, you're the mathematician.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: Someone once said You can't prove anything, you can only disprove the opposite
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: bullshit!
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: And i think we've disproven that majic can cook :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: and that's not true either, there are constructive proofs
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: Kad, if the result is undefined, then how is the result 2?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: tech thats undefined too   \
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: LOL
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silverlyn Tech: I made A trig  and it's not working, anyone here got mush client
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: the guy that wrote mushclient plays here, so i'd assume so
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Image:Pothole_divided_by_zero.jpg
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Not a single soul has MUSh.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: are you sending the output to the world?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: and like fs said earlier, the forums are a good supplement when trying to code zscript, since occasionally zugg just gets the documentation plain wrong..portalenable in zmud 7.21 for example has the wrong command :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: omg not encyclopediadramatica
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silverlyn Tech: yeah I have aliases that I made that works just fine
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: whats the longest word in the english dictionary
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: it's either floccipaunihiliflication or antidisestablishmentarianism
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: longest, Lightpath.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: which english dictionary ?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: do scientific dictionaries count?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: any english dictionary
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: NO!
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snagandorf Tech: the longest word in the english dictionary, according to the guinis book of world reacords, is the word that means "to inhale silica"
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: i want a word i can understand
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: really? and what is it?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: a car?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: LightPath, the longest word in the dictionary is 'longest.' Period. No other word is 'longest.' :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: nice :)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: titin also has the longest IUPAC name. The full chemical name, containing 189,819 letters
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: OMG
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: WHY?!
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: my two words are easy to understand - the first is the act of valuing something as worthless, the second is being against the closure of the monasteries by Henry VIII in the UK
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: why wold you make a work that you could not say in 15 breaths
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murn Tech: word
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: thanks :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: and would
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murn Tech: np :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: and take a look at breaths
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murn Tech: that too...
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Murn screams loudly!
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harrold Tech: because effective communication is not always reserved to monosyllabic babble, lightpath
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Sometimes you just have to use 2 syllables
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: wat about Lopado-temakho-selakho-galeo-kranio-leipsano-drim-hypo-trimmato-silphio-karabo-melito-katakekhy-meno-kikhl-epi-kossypho-phatto-perister-alektryon-opto-kephallio-kigklo-peleio-lago-io-siraio-baphe--tragano-pter}go-n is a fictional dish mentioned in Aristophanes' comedy Assemblywomen.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: well, holy crap
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: now what does Lopado-temakho-selakho-galeo-kranio-leipsano-drim-hypo-trimmato-silphio-karabo-melito-katakekhy-meno-kikhl-epi-kossypho-phatto-perister-alektryon-opto-kephallio-kigklo-peleio-lago-io-siraio-baphe--tragano-pter}go-n mean?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: but if it's Aristophanes, then it's Greek not English
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: now what does Lopado-temakho-selakho-galeo-kranio-leipsano-drim-hypo-trimmato-silphio-karabo-melito-katakekhy-meno-kikhl-epi-kossypho-phatto-perister-alektryon-opto-kephallio-kigklo-peleio-lago-io-siraio-baphe--tragano-pter}go-n mean?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: true
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: how about palindromes? kuulilennuteetunneliluuk
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: find me a longer one
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Dagnir - is that Finnish?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Heh. Can't copy/paste my input. Too long. :(
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: close, it's estonian
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis ?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: some sort of lung disease?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: yeah but it dont count cause it was made up purley to be the longest word
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: oh wait - inflammation of the lungs
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: a finnish one would be saipuakivikaupias
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: how about super-cala-fraja-listic-espi-ala-docious
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: LightPath ))
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: Pseudopseudohypoparathyroidism
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: mine was still longer
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: If you're going for constructed words to produce length - I'm sure German could do some :)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: any of you guys had an old physx card, then bought a new geforce?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: Pseudopseudohypoparathyroidism is a real word
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: not me, i'm on an old computer :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: saipuakivikaupias is one word
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: thats why i'm playing an MUD
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: apparantly nvidia owns the physx stuff now, so their new card drivers come with a physx driver for their cards
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: saippuakuppinippukauppias
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harrold Tech: take that stuff to the tech channel, kheftiu.....wait....
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: in sli configuration
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: lol
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: That's a long palindromic word in a foreign language.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: and i can't install the agiea one after installing this nvidia one for my card
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: is Mustin a word in any language?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: my finnish sucks :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: the only thing i could think of doing was like, removing the nvidia driver, installing the ageia one, then installing the nvidia one over that
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: the only thing I could tell about finnish is it's long words with lots of double vowels
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: but i don't know if the nvidia driver installer would detect that other physx driver and rip it out anyway
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: estonian has triple wowels in pronounciation :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: erk
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Here: A 17,259 word Palindrome (or Palindromic Sentence) - http://norvig.com/pal2txt.html
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: cause the nvidia one won't run with my physx card, but wants a second nvidia card for physx processing, while i have a perfectly good physx card right there
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: well peace out everyone
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yesterdays topic - os wars, todays topic - cunning linguists and master debators
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: And please don't use contracted forms for those last two terms
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Too late, Hargreaves.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Remind Hargreaves screams loudly!
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Remind Hargreaves falls down laughing.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: how about keyboard wars? i'm using dvorak. that makes my hands happy while typing and it also makes me more special and better than people using sholes keyboard
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harrold Tech: I'm paying a stenographer to type for me....which accounts for a number of the self-derogatory comments.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: is there a site that will teach how to script with VB in mush?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: Anyone a tech genius when it comes to scripting in MUSH?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: need a Lil, bit of helP :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: too rich for my blood
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: miss
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: anyone have the zune 120 and/or ipod classic 120g
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KittyCat Alieah Tech: anyone have any idea why my zmud mapper is not following my steps?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pulsar Tech: hi, anyone here use a mac client and have 10 mins to help me set mine up :( ?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: which mac client are you trying to use?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pulsar Tech: TinyFugue
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: Send Abelinc a tell
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pulsar Tech: ok, he was helping me a bit earlier but i never wound up getting it to work
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: If he can't help you, nobody can
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: Good luck, godspeed
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: what problems are you having with it?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pulsar Tech: i cant get it to connect to the server
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pulsar Tech: it comes up saying no world, ive tried to use the configure program and put in the info that is on the webpage with no luck
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pulsar Tech: actually ok i just go the login to work brb
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pulsar Tech: anyone know the command to use in a terminal so when you press up it shows what you entered last? 
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: what OS?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pulsar Tech: mac 
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: Does osx have Bash?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: are you in xterm, telnet, or tinyfugue ?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pulsar Tech: in using tinyfugue
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pulsar Tech: im*
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mauler Tech: fugue you too, buddy
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pulsar Tech: hmm it is definitely a product of the TF not of the terminal so i will look into TF and see
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pulsar Tech: any TF users here? quick question
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: nods, go ahead
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pulsar Tech: Is there a command I need to use or change so that I can use the up arrow to see my previous commands? 
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gundam Wing Tech: hmm? up arrow already sees my previous commands
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gundam Wing boggles at the concept.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: works natively for me too, didn't have to set anything
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pulsar Tech: up/down doesnt work for me at all poop
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pulsar Tech: it works for me in my regular terminals but once i start tf it stops working
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: it's popo not poop :)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gundam Wing grins evilly.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: did you check out http://www.mudbytes.net/index.php?a=topic&t=1133&p=17891
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: up arrow work in you term because the software, called bash supports it.....  TF, however is another program, and has control, it does not support it
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pulsar Tech: that link was exactly what i needed thanks, says it is setup for ctrl-b and ctrl-p...gotta change that 
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: that's not strictly true, kad; tf does support it, but sometimes the keybindings get hosed
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: does not support command history browsing via arrow keys to be more complete, if you really must
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Pulsar - list -i key* for a list of tf 'keys'
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: if he aint gunna read the docs you supplied he aint gunna get pedantic ramblings
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pulsar Tech: im in the process of changing the key bindings thanks guys
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: (MushClient) If i want a trigger to set off an alias. Where do i need to make sure the tigger content goes to? Is it the world?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: been a while since I've don e MUSH, but I think it'd be send to execute
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: thanks man
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: (Mushclient) if i was to turn mapping on it would keep a log of everywhere i've been correct?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: unless they've drastically changed the mapper, it just tracks the directions you've gone... useful for writign a speedwalk or reverse speedwalk.. won't track room names, mobs, etc
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: (MUSH) I have an alias that autoports-me-2-recall/then/quest completes for me
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: me too
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: (MUSH) ok, now heres my prob
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: I have one that tells me I need to get back
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: I try to keep my botting to informing me rather than doing it
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: (MUSH) I tried to make a trigger that will set it off when i want it too
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: an alias or trigger?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: when you get a bonus TP,what isa line I could use for a trigger on that? I had one but it seems to have dissappeared.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: whats teh difference between parallel and bootcamp?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a good idea to log everything, then you can just look at the logs :-)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: I was just looking at that too but all it logs is the chat
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: how would i log everything?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: huck, parallel is while MacOS is running (think fusion/VirtualPC), bootcamp is booting fully into windows
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: k thanks
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: im assuming it has mac FS support
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: creedos, turn on logging in main window, not on capture window?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: FS?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: filesystem
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: will try that
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I don't use it, but it'd either have full access, or have access to shared folders that you specify
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Just a dumb question but where are you looking for this tp - on score or inventory?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: but how would that work? if you boot soly into windows the "shared folders" wouldnt be active
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: i justnoticeda newone in my stat window
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: nevermind, i think i get it, ima google some and see what i can find
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: appreciate it
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: Abelinc that worked musta been in a chat window when i tried it before
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: ty
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: im dumb, i was like, hrmmm lemme find this to download (oh damn its included in leopard
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: Playing with Lua, trying to get it to read from a file.  Deleted everything out of sandbox (this won't be perm), but it doesn't see the file.  anyone know the directory it's looking in?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can you give it absolute paths?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: can't say I've tried.  suppose i could, need to check on how to escape backslashes in strings
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: Nm, no escaping needed.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: Nm, no escaping needed.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Smart move! Ilidar tries to start some discussion about the weather, hoping no one noticed his last mischan.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You snicker softly.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: how do i make it stop showing me my health and all that in text?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type statmon to get rid of the {stats} stuff...type "tags off" to get rid of both that and the "{chan ch=tech}" stuff
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: its still showing
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type prompt to turn off the main prompt, as opposed to the {stats} stuff
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: okay now i have just black space going off every few seconds
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: As an afterword, lua does exactly what i thought it would and checks the directory the script is in first when reading from a file.  I just made a typo ::)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: whats the trigger for time to quest?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: if anyone would mind telling me :)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: quest time
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: only takes ya 1/2 hour to find out ;-)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or reading back in your logs
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Maybe less by now :)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: 2 minutess actually :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: so i might as well wait
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Totalia Tech: # QUEST: You may now quest again.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: No!  I'm not a *beep* bot, it's just an elaborate *beep* script!
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Totalia Tech: that's what i think pops up rught?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: Oh thats right! i needed to ask something
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: i wonder how many quest triggers that just set off :)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: how do i make a script that will leave me logged in
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: but afk
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Totalia Tech: was just thinking of that lol
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: best way to do that is to have it hit "enter" every 10 mins
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: #t+ bot
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: oh ok, so if i just make a timer that hits enter every 10 minutes that would work?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: nope
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Totalia Tech: all you do is have it set every 5-10 mins just look in the room or do an emote then you wont go linkdead
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: would that be annoying in any way?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes tamariel
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: NO Don't do an emote
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: #tr {^Your eyes glaze over$} {afkchk}
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't do look or emote, just hit enter
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: omg I hate it when people do that
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: the worse ones are people who think that their timers are set for 10 mins and they're really doing 10 seconds
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: #tr {^Your eyes glaze over$} {gt afkchk} would work and make Crayze happy at the same time
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but if you're hitting enter, then even at 10 seconds, nobody else would notice (you'd see prompts show up repeatedly tho ;-)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: #TRIGGER {^Your eyes glaze over.$} {#CR} works wonderfully.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: PaperTiger Panzer is agreeing with that Alt. Helpa Charneus person again...
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: how do i make a trigger with a * setting, and use that * to set a variable?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Yeah it's the ones who just emote
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: note that all syntax just given is for z/cmud
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: (*) or %1
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: ok thanks
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: i'm using MUSH :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: well crap
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: 1 sec
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in MUSH, for not getting logged off, game -> configure -> timers, add, put in 10 mins, then hit enter in the main part, leave as send to world
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then it doesn't need to parse every line from the MUD for the eyes glaze over message, you and other players see no evidence of it running other than an extra prompt every 10 mins and keeping connected
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: nice
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: any suggestions on what to nuke in cmud if it has decided it prefers its layout approach to mine?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LightPath Tech: the computers hard drive
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: your motherboard?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: helpful as always, lightpath
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ilidar looks around and whistles innocently.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: you set it how you want it, then you do layout save?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: LightPath smiles happily.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ilidar looks around and whistles innocently.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: yep, but as of a few days ago, it stopped honoring that, hargreaves
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: LightPath SMACKS Ilidar upside the head, wonder what he did.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: I started up an alt, out of curiosity to see if it was application-wide....seems to be just the settings for this session.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: but, rather than throw out the baby with the bathwater and start again, I figured I'd see if there were some shortcut that was just related to the settings for the layout.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: odd....one of the windows had been switched to 'Floating' somehow, and wouldn't update to Tabbed unless I did it manually, despite what was displaying onscreen.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: making the manual change seems to have fixed things.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gremlins :-)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: yeah, works for me. ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: thank you mr boot camp, hose the system even more
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Global Menace bootcamp voice, "You're welcome."
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: stupid fresh install and damn hal error, i swear microsoft is the devil
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: now is about the point the machine gets tossed
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: ah, then try sacrificing a small chicken
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: then you can have it for lunch afterwards
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: insert profanity here
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: no chickens?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: Unable to create file hal.dll
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: why the eff not.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: expand the freakin file from the cd
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: grrrrrrrrrrr
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: so how is everyone doing today
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: cd might be scratched, or some such trivial explanation?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: or just try the old uninstall reboot reinstall?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: ok, so lets download hal.dll and copy over in Leopard and test that way
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: oh yea, and i can copy hal.dl_ from teh cd but still not expand it
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: in this recession, which would make job seeking more feasible, mcsa/e
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: screw mcse, mcitp:ea
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: good point, wonder what test prices are on those, brb
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: 125 each
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: i just took 70-643 2 weeks ago :-p
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: how many tests is it though
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: i think 5
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: and in addition to that which aspect would help the most when finding a job lol
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: BS - CIS focus in DBA, guess i could go that route
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: cl *snore vlazin
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: whoops
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: can u add the certifications at the end of ur name?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: or does it have to be a masters/above?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: looks like 3 exams for the mcitp :)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: like john doe, MCITP, MBA
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: john doe, ABC, MA, CEO
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: john doe, DEF, TARD, TURD
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: I personally use John Smith, High School Diploma
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: once i get it, i would probably put MCITP:EA after my name on resumes only
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: business cards too
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: well my company makes my business cards currently :-p
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, as an IT director, I ignore most people that put alphabet soup after their name
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: throw it in the education field, period
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: as an IT director, i suppose its easy when u sit here and MUD all day
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Officer Starling slaps Ariau.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I wish
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: does bsc count as alphabet soup? :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: wait a min- u dun sit here and MUD all day??
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: he sucks at mudding
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: he's mostly good at talking ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes chuft
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: chuft is good at making babies and eating burnt food
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bsc does count as alphabet soup
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unless you're md, esquire, etc, it's pompous to attempt to put it after your name
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: esquire? landowner? :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fae Wino Joelz blinks innocently at Iron Duck Chuft.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: heh
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: barrister, to you, cruftie ;-)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: silly americans, nevermind
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: what the hell is esquire?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: lawyer
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lawyer
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: or senator
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: something americans apparently get wrong ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: doctorate of jurisprudence
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: hah. I remember in one of the herriot books ... some random guy who treated dogs on the side always put 'MKC' after his name
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: theres an esquire magazine :D:D
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: he found out later it meant 'member of the kennel club'
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: at least he wasn't AKC registered :-)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Argot was just reading the newest esquire o.o
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: In the United States, however, "esquire" is most commonly assumed by lawyers in a professional capacity and has come to be associated by many Americans solely with the legal profession.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or bill from bill & ted :-)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: who's that?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ilidar gasps as he realizes what Dispel Majic did.
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: she's just pretending not to know, don't believe her cover :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: i'm serious :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: keanu reeves :P
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: the guys who travled time to save the future?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: and taught me history, all at the same time?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: EXCELLENT!!!
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: and they did it all from a phone booth
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: damn, cheated of esquire by a generation of daughters
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: How do I seperate stats / chat / maps, etc into different windows like the sample picture of MushClient on the aardmud page? (I am using MushClient)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: easiest way is to download the aard client
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: download the aard mushclient? :-p
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I think he means to make them not tabbed
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: u mean the musclient with aard pluggins?
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: A different version of MushClient then? *looks on aard page*
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you click on one of them to bring it to the front, just put it where you want...you can type aardinit (or initaard, I forget) to get it to set default locations/sizes for your screen size
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: okay better, got the official aard plugins going now thanks :)
T1/r4/2009-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: anyone know of key command that forces cd to eject on a mac prior to booting
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gercoh Tech: Can someone who knows tf help me?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on what help you require :-)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gercoh Tech: Well, two questions, but one leads to another. I need to set binds in tf using CTRL, but I know tf uses...well, something other then just typing "/bind ctrl-yadda yadda".
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gercoh Tech: So, first, how can I view what the terminal sees when I press a key?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: didja try /help bind?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it mentions using ^ for ctrl
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gercoh Tech: Ok.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gercoh Tech: Is there a way I can see existing bindings? It says the one I want is 
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gercoh Tech: "prefixed by an existing keybinding". (Damn enter button.)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: /help keys lists a ton of default keybindings
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gercoh Tech: Is there a way I can get rid of those defaults?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gercoh Tech: No way to do that then? =/
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that wouldn't make sense :P
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you wish to have a particular set of keys bound to something, then bind them...no benefit to removing them otherwise
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gercoh Tech: Why? I don't need any of the things the defaults offer. For now, I just need binds for basic commands that are in all muds on the letter keys.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so make the ones you want
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gercoh Tech: I can't. It won't let me because the defaults already use the keys.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not true
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can just bind keys to what you want, it'll overwrite anything existing there
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you sure it's not something higher-up in the terminal chain preventing it?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: like I use screen...it'll capture my ctrl-a because that's what it uses to do its stuff
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tf never sees the ctrl-a
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gercoh Tech: Well, it's not doing that then. I'm trying to bind "ctrl w" to "n". When I type "/bind ^W n", it tells me that it's prefixed by an existing keybinding.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: /unbind ^w :-)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then /bind ^w n
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oops, need to use =
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gercoh Tech: "/bind ^W=n"?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so then "/unbind ^w n" followed by "/bind ^w = n"
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gercoh Tech: Ok.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gercoh Tech: Hooyeah. That worked. Thank you. :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hehe, now some time next week I'm gonna hit ctrl-w by accident and go 'wtf' when I see you can't go that way ;-)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gercoh Tech: Heh.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gercoh Tech: Hm. Now I'm trying to bind "^X" and, even tho there is no key bound to it (I did /unbind), it says something is already bound to it.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: ctrl-x is for cut?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gercoh Tech: In a terminal?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gercoh Tech: I was able to bind "
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gercoh Tech: I was able to bind "^C" with no problems, and that is Copy, not in the terminal tho.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's 6 things bound to ^Xsomething in /help keys
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gercoh Tech: But nothing bound to "^X" alone.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: read the message it gives you
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: % BIND: '^X' is a prefix of an existing keybinding.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gercoh Tech: Oh. *slaps self*
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can't have something bound to ctrl-xSomething, and also to ctrl-x...when you do ctrl-x, it wouldn't then wait for the ctrl-xsomething to ever match
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gercoh Tech: So I'd have to unbind everything else?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do "/list -i -b^X" :-)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err do "/list -i -b^X*" :-)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's "gimme a list", "of all invisible" "keybindings that equal the glob pattern ^X*"
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can also do /list -mregexp if you're more comfortable matching patterns in regexp
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: sorry was that english? :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it was to the one that it was to :-)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: I can code oo languages fine but regexp's do my head in :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gercoh Tech: I can't code. XD
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then use glob, or even simple matching...they're all supported ;-)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kad agrees!
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gercoh Tech: I wish I could, but I can't put up with the monotony.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: regexp is voodoo
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the "/list -i -b^X*" lists all keybindings that start with ^X
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: regexp is perfectly logical :-)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i know, but it's still voodoo
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ilidar seems to think you have the right idea.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: regex is hieroglyphics
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to just see keybindings, "/list -i -b"
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Only if your regexp engine supports unicode   :p
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you wanted to know if you could nuke them all in 1 go...yes you can
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: doing "/purge -i -b" will do that
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you won't be able to use the arrow keys to move around in your input line or anything ;-)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gercoh Tech: So would "/purge -i -b^X*" kill them all?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: should, yeah
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can do the /list first, do the purge, then the list again to see that it took place
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gercoh Tech: That worked.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: note of course that what you're doing is in this particular instance of tf, and you're not saving this as a config anywhere...
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gercoh Tech: Well, you can save your current keybindings from a command, right? I saw it, but I don't remember what it was.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'll want to edit either your .tfrc file to have it really global, or some other config file accessed by a world, to set up the bindings that you want
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the example tfrc file has "/def BINDFILE   = ~/tf-dir/bind.tf", and then you can uncomment the line "; /loadbind" to load that upon tf starting
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: paste whatever you want to into a named textfile at that location
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then as tf starts, it'll load those commands
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gercoh Tech: So I can add bindings from that file too?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can add whatever you want, it's your config :-)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gercoh Tech: Cool.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gercoh Tech: Brb, testing this stuff.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gercoh Tech: Hm.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gercoh Tech: So, I had my prompt in the box that had everything I type in, and now it's outside that, on the upper screen. Any way to get it back to the bottom?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gercoh Tech: Ya know, I'll prob try all this stuff later. I should have been sleeping an hour and a half ago.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gercoh Tech: Thanks for all the help.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, no prob, I'm in bed too :-)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: anyone know a working potions tracker mod?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: has anyone tried to used the drivers from boot camp to get multitouch workin on other pcs
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tainted Tallimos Tech: anybody around that knows much about cell phone programs?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you can start with telling us about the os you're running on in
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it, even
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tainted Tallimos Tech: no idea just a regular cell phone, it uses java apps I believe
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: < almost afraid to mention he's a t-mobile PDA tech.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tainted Tallimos Tech: looking for a program that I can keep a database on the cell
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: depends on what phone you have :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tainted Tallimos Tech: samsung :P
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: oh... good luck then.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tainted Tallimos Tech: think it is m500
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ok. now let's guess the model
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, there it is
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: samsung phones aren't well known for running apps :/
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tainted Tallimos Tech: I don't know much about cell phones but I do know there is an apps section in there so thought I would take a shot
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: try here: http://www.getjar.com/software/Samsung/SPH_M500/
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: heh. found a pile of db apps for my htc :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: HTC phones are a bit better in the apps realm than samsung :P
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tainted Tallimos Tech: heh
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: lol. a bit :P
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tainted Tallimos Tech: think come august I have the option of upgrading my cell phone
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: saving up for a G1 myself....
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tainted Tallimos Tech: want this so I have a database of my movies when I am out shopping sometimes I wonder if I have a certain movie or not...
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audition Tech: If you don't know if you have movies or not do you really nee dmore?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: how aboot a text file with search?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tainted Tallimos Tech: didn't know that was possible dagnir
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tainted Tallimos Tech: and audition I'll give you an example, last week I was at wal-mart wondering if I had bank job.. turns out I don't
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: or html file with a-z links?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tainted Tallimos Tech: that would be cool
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tainted Tallimos Tech: how about both? :P
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tainted Tallimos Tech: html with search and a-z links
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: do it, then :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tainted Tallimos Tech: I know how to make a html file but they are readable if I just copy to cell phone?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i think the hijack this developer had a tool for creating one of those
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: is there a browser on your phone?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tainted Tallimos Tech: yes but sometimes in certain buildings I don't have service so going online would be tough :P
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: keep the html in your phone
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tainted Tallimos Tech: thanks I'll try that... just have to remember where I put the data cable for my phone...
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tainted Tallimos Tech: the file opened with some kind of picture viewer
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tainted Tallimos Tech: still sorta works tho, can do a search
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: okay now I have a telnet client on my phone but my screen is way too small to see anything useful on it :P
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i enjoy my 320x240 screen and a full sholes keyboard :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: can't wait for windows 7 to come out, vista causes me so much grief in my work
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: actually, windows 7 won't solve it, sticking with xp will
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: and you think w7 will be better? :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: honestly vista works just fine forme *inno*
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mauler Tech: whats supposed to be the main difference anyhow?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: as it goes, the problem is with people. Take today, an old feller moaning and bitching about the laptop i got for him because his old scanner, older nero 6 premium, and adobe photoshop elements 5 won't work on it
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: 7 will be what vista should have been
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what do you do? lol, makes me want to shoot people, really does
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mauler Tech: What do I do?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: change to linux
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mauler Tech: I see, I understand what you mean now
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: the whole raison d'etre for windows was is supposed backwards compatibility, if that goes out the window (pun intended) then what's the point of "upgrading"?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: like that'll help, yhogurt
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ms will keep the legacy code anyway :P
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mauler Tech: Its buying a completely seperate product instead of creating an advanced version, I agree.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: it won't help you since you can't help the old guy with linux stuff
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no, it won't help because then not only will his old usb scanner, nero 6 premium, and adobe photoshop elements 5 not work, his nav 09, and most of the laptop functions themselves won't work either
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: unless it's a really obscure laptop then most laptop "functions" will work correctly on linux
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ahh... nero. a perfect example how development kills a good piece of software :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: anyone know a good avi to dvix *freee* software?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: divx and free in one sentence? try xvid. ffdshow should do the job
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it won't work how he expects, and thats the problem
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: something you fanboys will never appreciate :-)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: are you talking aboot the vol +/- and mute buttons etc?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: since you seem to be implying that his old stuff don't work as he expects anyway what's the problem?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: solution will be to install xp on it
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: one of the solutions, that is
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: and pay ms twice?? that's one of the reasons how they get so filthy rich
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: actually, my mom called me today because she had a problem with ubuntu that i installed on the family computer. the first time in half an year. she was updating the system and a package wasn't signed properly so the system warned her aboot it.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ubuntu is also running on her laptop with them fancy buttons. everything works fine
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: so is that what you're going to do? ask the poor old man to pay for an xp license?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: damn right i am
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's by far the best solution
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's also what he's asked for
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: poor geezer, sold dodgy not fit for purpose goods by tnuts, now has to pony up some more money in the hope that it might work
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: your solution would cost him and me far more
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: how?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: he'd have to replace his scanner, his printer, and all of his software
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and he'd be charged for every bit of tech support work thereafter
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: personally i wouldn't have sold him something that didn't fit his purpose in the first place
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: why the scanner and printer?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: because they won't have linux drivers
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and you've looked for them?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no point
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: even if there were linux drivers tnuts wouldn't know how to support it is why there's no point?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: he's still not be able to use the software he's used to, so it'd still be pointless#
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: people, especially old people, are creatures of habit
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: now, if the linux community brought out a linux version of xp that looked exactly like xp and had wine integrated so that it'd run windows applications like xp, then we might be on to something
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not only that, but with m$ discontinuing xp, it'd be a sizeable portion of the market they could nab
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: question, I'm coming into this conversation late so bear with me. What happened here, was someone built a system that didn't meet their needs aka the hardware/software did not talk to each other?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: there is a distro like that. can't remember the name linspire, perhaps?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: used to be called lindows, but ms had a fit so paid them to rename to linspire or something
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nah, fates, yhogurk just being a div
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: guy didn't get on with vista, so wants xp
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: something called vixta - http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h16/sorrypic/viXta_glass_orginal_start_button.jpg
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: as for old peeps being creatures of habit, going from xp to vista is as big a jump as going from xp to any X-windows based windows manager/desktop
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it ain't that bad, vista is very similar to xp
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: just slower and doesn't work properly 
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blitzed BladeofLight Tech: just dont update from xp to vista...
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blitzed BladeofLight Tech: if u gonna install it do a fresh install
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: it's not a matter of "updating", guy buys laptop with vista, now has to pay extra for xp because vista is crap
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not crap, just because he can't get on with it
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: so ms gets paid twice, and tnuts has 2x the commission :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i don't get commission
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: lol you said so yourself that vista is crap on more than one occasion
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: Vista is quite good actually if you know what you're doing
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: oh, it is shocking, but that's not specifically why he's having problems
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's shocking in a technical sense
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: there's no reason you cant get better performance out of a new machine with vista than the same machine with xp
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well actually there is
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: if you disabled all the drm crap, and the eye candy?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i just hope on 7 they give people more control at install time of what crap it installs
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nope
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: hard to see how it'll work then
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: asus said they'd be shipping webbooks with 7 from late summer 09
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if it's anything like vista, it simply won't run on em
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: should b einteresting - all the xp drivers for this lappie are beta-releases
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: how so? surely you must be used to beta stuff by now :P
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: silly
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mij Tech: nokia 6030, keep or throw ? :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: meh... keep
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: unless you want something powerful :P
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mij Tech: well...thinking about whether I want to hunt down a charge for it :P
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mij Tech: err, charger :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mij Tech: nokia 1209, throw or keep ? :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: if you have a nokia e71 or e90 throw it my way :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mij Tech: -.-
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: throw the 1209
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mij Tech: i have a 1209 and a 6030...both no charger :(
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: send me an n95 
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: mobiles suck - throw!
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mij throws the 1209 out of the window....and down 60 floors.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: on second thought dump the 6030 too, it's only dual band
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mij Tech: wait...mobiles suck ?...dang...shouldnt have bought the fake vagi...erm...nothing :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: tnuts probably based his observations on wince devices
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mij Tech: dump both, then I'll need to get my shoes upgraded :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mij Tech: anyone know where i can get mobile phone shoes ? :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nah, just hate phones in general
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mij Tech: wait...what's dual band gotta do with anything ? :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: tnuts just out of interest what DON'T you hate? you seem to have a grudge against practically everything :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: lots of things
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mij Tech: he loves tiger nuts ? :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mij waves the Sword Of Omens at Tigernuts and yells 'Thundercats!
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: I wouldn't use any less than a triband phone myself
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: better service
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mij sighs.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iceman Tech: i used to love TC :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: at least in the US anyway.... quadband is best :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: someone wants to get hold of me they can email me or leave a message
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: or if you want to suffer, you get a CDMA phone
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mij Tech: looks like I have to go splurge :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mij Tech: pop quiz: what sony ericsson hp has no camera ? :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: how is that a pop quiz?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mij Tech: ok...you are right...its just a question :P
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: tell you what, with this lappy with xp on, it flies like hot poo off a shovel
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Komrad Kessel Tech: and he can't even squeeze an nt kernel properly :P
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: US lacks true mobile bandwidth :P
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: EU/AU have more :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: AU has the most advanced wifi network in the world actually
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: mobile that is, not wifi as in 802.11
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Komrad Kessel Tech: lies
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Onenmaru Tech: the us lacks ANY bandwidth >>
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Komrad Kessel Tech: convicts don't need wireless
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: US lacks common sense, too
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: US is hampered by the lack of a nationwide standard
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Onenmaru Tech: as much as i hate to admit it, yeah
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Komrad Kessel Tech: our 3g network is supposed to be pretty good, not sure about mainland europe
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, so how's the reception in the bush?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Onenmaru Tech: that's why i'm moving when i get a chance
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Onenmaru Tech: germany, here i come ._.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 3g, rofl
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: you're still on 3?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: my phone does 3.5
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <sarcasm> Forestseer comforts Komrad Kessel.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Komrad Kessel Tech: damn if I know, I don't actually use it
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Komrad Kessel Tech: just my dsl2 at home
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Honestly, Abelinc once killed seven with one blow!
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: 7.2mbps is nothing to sniff at out of a mobile device
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: though the spec rates it to 14.4
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: regular 3 is only 3.6mbps
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: regular 3g*
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 3g coverage in the UK is patchy, and that's being nice
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: man that makes my phone calls SCREAM!
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: if you're on telstra's network, the 3g coverage is pretty damn good over here
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: 3 mobile has pretty good coverage in sydney
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: and doesnt charge you extra if you roam onto other networks
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: i still don't like the US's backwards way of thinking about mobiles
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: i mean, paying to RECEIVE calls ...
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: -_-
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: can't recall any UK phone providers that charge you to receive calls
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: that's prob because local calls free in the US
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: on mobiles?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: what sucks for me is I'm in a contract on a carrier with the worst cst service (sprint), and work for a carrier with the phone I want (t-mobile), but the only 3g in my area is from AT&T
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: i got free local calls here too on landline and i dont pay to receive :P
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Komrad Kessel . o O ( stupid americans )
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Komrad Kessel coughs loudly.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: mobile or landline, no payment for receiving calls of any sort
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: i assume you mean HTC, not t-mobile Aelfwyne :P
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eternal Anguish Tech: jealous :P
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: I work for t-mobile... I want the G1
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: which is a htc phone
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: *nod*
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: do you want it for the phone, or for the android :P
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: the android of course :P
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: my friend's mother is close friends with the owner of htc
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: but there's no 3g in my area yet... so that does suck
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: we got free g1s :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: considering they aren't even out over here yet :D
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: only AT&T has 3g here... and I have to get out of my sprint contact first anyway
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: heh... nice :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I was surprised at how heavy google's phone is
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: thing's solid
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: i use a nokia n95, but my next phone will prolly be a htc HD touch
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: if i can find a guide to put android on it on the web
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: Honestly, I see very few problems on the G1... blackberries on the other hand seem to crash and need master resets frequently
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Komrad Kessel Tech: just need a phone I can use to quest on down the pub..one I can actually see what the hell I am doing that is :P
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: abe, you ever handle a nokia n91?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: the most common problem I see with n95s is that they lose the unlock
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: lose the unlock?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: when people have bought carrier-locked n95s and unlocked them
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: aah
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: they tend to "re-lock"
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope FS, I'm generally not interested in smart phones, but one of our board members is a developer, he came in with a BB, an iphone & google's the other day to show me his app
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: my first was locked, it was stolen in a night club, 2nd was unlocked, stolen by taxi driver (actually stolen, we spoke with him before he turned the phone off for good), third is still here with me
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: abe, n91, stainless steel, first mobile with 4gb microhdd
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: could knock a person unconcious with it
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: microhdd would be moronic to put in a phone :P
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: went through over $4000 in phones in < 6 weeks
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: why?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: ouch
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <sarcasm> Forestseer nods at Aelfwyne.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murn Tech: Iphone lock can be broken relatively easily.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because moving parts sux0rz :P
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: in there i lost my n91 in a taxi (lost this time)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: wasn't too bad abe
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: i've lost 4 phones my entire life, 3 of them in that 6 week stretch, the other one was a $15 phone in highschool :P
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hitachi (later ibm) used to be big with the CF hard drives before bigger flash units became available
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selfyne Tech: so who knows zmud?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: is there any way to to use #math and add that output to a DB?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i tryed using #math %addkey(something_DB, name) (100-50) and it did not work
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: you can ...
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: but your syntax seems completely off :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: anyway use %eval instead it's probably better
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i have never used eval so ... hrmm leme look it up
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i have it set up like this #MATH %addkey( qp_goal_DB, qp_needed) (%db( @qp_goal_DB, qpgoal) - %db( @qp_goal_DB, currentqp)) and i also tryed it #MATH %addkey( qp_goal_DB, qp_needed, (%db( @qp_goal_DB, qpgoal) - %db( @qp_goal_DB, currentqp))) and neither worked
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: like i said your syntax is completely wrong, try read help for %eval and rework your formula to use that
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: for starters you can't have %addkey as the first argument to #MATH, that %addkey is a function you need a variable
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: a variable to #math, not %addkey
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selfyne Tech: anyone know alot about zmud?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selfyne Tech: I made a booboo:(
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i figured that out after i kept creating %addkey as a var ... i figured out eval thanks
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: heh, being harassed by windows update to install sp3
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Any alternatives to pandora.com and last.fm out there?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: will be glad to get onto my new isp, can't even stream tv properly on this one, meh
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so, what're the odds that it fixes your MUD access as well ;-)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: hope so
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harrold Tech: in cmud, is there a way, from the command line, to toggle the map between Follow mode and Map mode?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: any linux/unix ppl on that might be able to help me with a shell-script error?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: i take it that is a no?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: i am using AIX-5.3.... trying to create a script that does 3 things... 1) cd to /data1/spl/cis/...../bin/ --- then run a script "splenviron.sh -e ......" then cd again because the splenviron dumps you into another directory... and then run another script "threadpoolworker.sh -p DEFAULT=10...." but it seems to hang on the splenviron thing
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: any ideas?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gunstling has just 'pfft'ed you! How disgusting!
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Sagen Tech: Anyone know off hand what the option is in telnet to see typed text?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RL Sucks Xantcha Tech: echo on, isn't it?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RL Sucks Xantcha Tech: or local echo
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Hmmm. svchost.exe is using 75MB of RAM. Lovely. :\
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wow
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Which one?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Rather, one instance of it.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I'm going to do a diagonstic and see what it's loading/doing.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I've got one at 25M, the rest are pretty small
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Hmmm... the LocalSystemNetworkRestriced svchost. :P
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Handles Audio Endpoint builder, Offline Files, Network connections, Compatibility assistant, superfetch, DWM, Diagnostic system homst, wlan autoconfig, Portable device enumerator, and Windows driver foundation... Was running TrkWks, but stopped that service. :\
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I wonder which ones I should stop. :\
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harrold Tech: anyone know of a way to toggle the map mode on and off from the command line, in cmud?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: it's possible
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: %maplocked() is what you might be looking for.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harrold Tech: 1 doesn't seem to work from the command line....I'm guessing that's more from within scripts.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: #say 0
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harrold Tech: ok, that should have been %%maplocked. 
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: #say %maplocked(0)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You have to type '#CALL %maplocked(1)' or '#CALL %maplocked(0)'
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: #say 1
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I always thought of charneus as a tf guy..dunno why
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: clearly not, but..
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: Charn, a tough guy? pfft
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It's true. I saw TF once, and I curled up in a fetus position and cried.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: well..if tf was more graphical with map support..
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: gotta have the maps, though, handsdown win for zugg
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: unfortunately
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harrold Tech: hmmm, doesn't seem to be giving me what I'm looking for yet, but I'll read up on the help for those commands and see where that gets me.  ty
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: #CALL won't output anything.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: i think there may be a bug with the mapper icon not updating the mapmode atm
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harrold Tech: not looking for output, just expecting the map screen to show the change
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harrold Tech: ahh, ok....so, try the call and then see how the mapper responds?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods at Harrold.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: For instance, try mapping a new room.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harrold Tech: nod, giving that a whirl
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harrold Tech: bummer....function appears to be setting the value properly (checking with #echo), but the mapper's behavior isn't changing.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harrold Tech: I blame Zugg. ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Try putting the map in edit mode, then using those commands.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harrold Tech: ah, interesting....ok, will do.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harrold Tech: (sometimes, I swear my brain just doesn't engage)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Dashiell Tech: Sometimes?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Nope... didn't work on my end. Hmm.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harrold Tech: yes....other times, I'm sure it didn't.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harrold Tech: seems like that's not really the value being checked to determine whether or not mapping is allowed...even though it should be
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harrold Tech: I'm currently mapping, with locking turned on.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: There /might/ be another preference. Let me see.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Well, no, it might just be a bug then. Hmmm.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harrold Tech: I guess those aliases are just going to have to wait.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delight Tech: does mushclient have a sort of 'always on top' command for a window?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delight Tech: anybody on?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Just us chickens.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delight Tech: know about mushclient?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Not here, sorry. tintin.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: reason #27 that 24 is not believable: they hacked the FBI on a mac
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Does Linux have a built-in firewall?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I'm running something on port 8000, but I can't connect to it from any other machines in my network.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Would there be a way to open (I suppose?) that port in Linux?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: check if it's only binding to localhost
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: It also might be something unique to Gentoo, because this is something I've run many times before on Ubuntu, and I've never had issues connecting to it.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: How do I check that, Crayze?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: I forget the netstat flag, but there's a flag that shows all listening ports
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: linux kernel does have firewall capabilities, it depends on your distro whether firewall is enabled by default
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: it'll either say 0.0.0.0:8000 for all interfaces (which means it's likely a firewall or routing issue) or it'll say 127.0.0.1:8000 if it's only binding locally
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: I assume you've already cut firewalls out of being an option
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: It has the computer name and 8000
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: gentoo doesn't do any firewalling out of the box if that's what you're using
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: ssh is in netstat -l as *:ssh, and 8000 is in there as computer_name:8000
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: as with any *nix system the logs can tell you lots of info
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: it listing computername:8000 depends on your hosts file then... does pinging computername ping 127.0.0.1 or your external interface? (probably a 192 number unless it's directly on the net)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: unless you've changed the code between this computer and the other linux computer you said it worked on, then it's not an issue with it only binding to localhost..
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Pinging the computername pings 127.0.0.1
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: but if you have access to the code, look up how it fills the sockaddr_in structure's sin_addr fiel
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: field
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: it should fill with 0 if it's to bind to all interfaces.. if it's doing a lookup on something, that could be why
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: or if it's a fully functional program, it probably has a config file that asks what to bind it to... I'm guessing it's a MUD though from it's port number
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: do you have root access to the server?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: It's the Django development server, actually, but yes, I have root and physical access to the server.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: calling it the Django development server doesn't mean much to me... I'm more concerned that most servers that are used for hosting lock user's to specified ports at the router or virtual host level, so if you haven't asked for port 8000, then you don't have access to it
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: there's some kernel mods that will only let you bind to a port externally if it's specified in a config file for your user id (which I think is accessible via the sysctl command, but I'm sure there's more than one package for this by now)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: and there's a larger chance that the IP has more than one computer behind it, and the NAT needs to be configured to route port 8000 to the server you are on
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: {bigmap}6,Vidblain, the Ever Dark
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: throwing in some UPNP code would help if the router is poorly configured (since UPNP should never be enabled on that kind of setup...)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: grr.... farked video card has never worked right and I need to buy a new one (2600xt ati)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: crashes randomly
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: who wants to play "guess the fault"?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: format your windows
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no windows on it
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: see, that's the fault..
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: if you had windows, you could just format and solve the problem
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: something tells me you haven't subscribed to the idea of this game 
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: ah, now you're guessing!!
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: ok
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: pc with 3gb of ram, 1x2, 1x1. With 3 gig in it fails memory tests, test each stick individually in either slot, it passes, turn off all interleaving, turn down memory speed, same effect
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: now, let's play "guess the fault"
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: crap board
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: or incorrect memory config ... ie cant use 1x2 and 1x1
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: same with 2x2
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: board
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: ram works fine in another pc?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yep, and works fine individually
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm inclined to agree to a stretch, though before replacing the board, i'll snag the latest bios
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: so both sticks work fine individually?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: aye
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: one of the mem slots shat itself on mb
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: tested both
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: i know .. its using linux isnt it :p
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bios upgrade seems to have fixed it
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's play "guess the fault" again!
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: your fault!
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: lol
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: turns on, fans run, no post, no beeps. Client reports that if he turns it off and on enough it'll come on
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Komrad Kessel Tech: loose mainboard power connector
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: does it randomly crash?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nope, just slow
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Komrad Kessel Tech: checked the ram sticks?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Komrad Kessel Tech: since you have it in anyway
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: easy tiger, this is a game :-)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: from my experience with this particular model, it was a sign that mobo was dying
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: there's a big jump above 500, and another one above 1tb
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: woops, mis
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: interestingly, only does it on a stone cold boot, it seems
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: does it randomly crash?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Smart move! Ilidar tries to start some discussion about the weather, hoping no one noticed his last mischan.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: apparently not, ilidar. there are some reports of app hangs in the event viewer, but quite sporadoc, like one a week, if that
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: cpu was running at a slow speed though, suggests some kind of board/bios issue
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: anyone know how to get zmud to log/export with colorcodes in the txt files it produces ?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kieram Tech: any one here familiar with zmud?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tweeke Tech: yep
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: i imagine a few people are
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: lots of us whats up
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kieram Tech: i have several buttons programed with various things. one of them is to enter my garbage can
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: ok
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kieram Tech: but for some reason when i started playing again recently it doesnt have in its commands to remove my off hand weapon
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kieram Tech: which i easily changed and moved on with it working. but every time i log back on it reverts back to before i changed it and i dont know why
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: save settings
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: after changing
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kieram Tech: i tried that
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: then drop it in the fish tank :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kieram Tech: ?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone reccommend a woman-proof, free tool to convert a batch of jpgs to tiff?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: .........
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: woman--proof? unlikely
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: irfanview
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: oh God I know the answer to this
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: wait, are you trying to prevent women from using the tool?  or a tool that women can't break?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that a woman can use
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: don't be sexist
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: irfanview will work but I was thinking of something else
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: there was somehting called one-click-converter or something like that
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: resize and possibly convert images via context menu
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: AHA! GIMP is what I was thinking of. dunno if it's woman proof tho
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: irfanview does all that in a compact download
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no it isn't
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: irfanview works a treat
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: thanks yoghurt
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: even *i* have trouble using the gimp :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir is agreeing with that Yhogurk person again...
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: uh. it was right click image converter. and it's TOTALLY womanproof
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: hmm how do i turn work with tags yet don't allow them to display?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: huh?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to not see them yourself, you have the script gag/hide them
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: can you have a non-display trigger?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for instance, the download of mushclient from aard site turn on most tags, but you won't see them
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: got it
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: yeah, that was what i was looking for
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: is there a tag gag script?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: similarly for zmud, fiendish has a number of scripts that use the tags
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the gag script would be whatever script is actively using the particular tags
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's lots of control over individual tags, so it's not a "one script for them all" thing
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your channel capture script should hide the {chan ch=tech}, your automap script should hide the map tags, your stats/gauge script should hide the statmon, etc
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: so if i want to hide those tags, i need to get those scripts?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or make them, yes
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or just turn off tags
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: they have the code to use
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're not running scripts that use them, there's no reason to have the tag on
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: stats off
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: but it certainly does make scripting easier :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: you swith over to mushclient Abelinc?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft is NOT using a bot, merely a very handy *beep* script!
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope, I use tinyfugue
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I doubt I'll ever switch clients
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: ok, how do i turn off my stats tags
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: I figured
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type statmon
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: thanks
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delight Tech: anybody use mushclient?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delight Tech: I think this channel hates me.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delight Tech: everytime I ask a question here... I get crickets :P
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: ask a real question instead?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delight Tech: anybody know how to keep the big map window from disappearing when I go to the hotel and reappearing as the main window when I enter a big map zone?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delight Tech: its pretty annoying.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delight Tech: near as I can tell, I can't find any sort of 'always on top' control for an individual window, only for mushclient in general.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: the windows are defined in the scripts themselves I beleive, never actually used it but most programs will handle things thus
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: anyone on that has any shell-scripting exp? i am running into an error that i have never encountered before.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: for which os?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: currently using AIX-5.3.x
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: nope, sorry..mostly just nt shell scripts for me
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: delight, type "bigmap auto off"
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: we just switched... don't know why... was using SPARC... never had the problem on SPARC
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: ask abe, he knows most of the nix based stuff I think
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you using the same shell that you did on Solaris? (sparc is a processor, not an OS)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: abe you have a sec?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: yes.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: starts with #!/bin/bash... but i think the default for aix is ksh isn't it?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: check version numbers between the shells, may be a feature supported on one but not the other
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, aix likes korn
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: here is a brief explination... need a ss to do the following... cd to specified dir... run another ss "splenviron.sh -e CCBDEMO" (as an example) then once that completes cd to another dir... and then run another ss... i.e.. "nohup threadpoolworker.sh -p DEFAULT=5 -d Y >/bin/null &"
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: but what i am getting is the following... it does the first cd, runs the first ss... then just sits there... does not complete the rest of the script
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: but if i type "exit" it does do the rest of the script but the threadpoolworker.sh errors out because typing exit disable/kills the process for splenviron.sh
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: any ideas?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how does splenviron.sh exit?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: it drops you into a prompt... in a dir... /data1/spl/cis/CCBDEMO
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: and at that point it "should" be ready for the next command.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does it create that prompt? I mean, is that prompt a subshell, or is it actually exited?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: once it completes it drops out and that is the actual prompt... the splenviron just sets like all your $ORACLE_SID, %SPLBASE%, and $ORACLE_HOME... and all that
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: once it sets the environ vars... it is completed and drops you to the %SPLBASE% which is /data1/spl/cis/CCBDEMO
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: abelinc i just ran it with only the first cd and the splenviron... and then an "echo" command.... its like it is not completing the splenviron or something... cause its dropping me to a command prompt... but it did not send me the echo... could it be putting me into a sub-shell?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, I'd take a look at the splenviron.sh, it sounds like it's spawning a shell but staying running
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: ok... if it is putting me into a sub-shell... how do i make that shell run the second/future commands? know what i mean? i don't mind that it does that... i just need to run more commands.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have it spawn the subshell with the other commands as argument to the subshell
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: ok so windows 32bit is reading 6gigs in system, im assuming it just wont access it?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: prolly not
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: I don't think it can use past 3.5G to be honest after that it is into addresses for libraries
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if system properties shows the full memory, then it can access it
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on which version of the OS you're running, and if you've got the large addressing turned on
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: 7-32bit
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: really, i think due to architecture 32bit wouldnt access past 3.5 as well
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: didnt thing*
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dunno windows 7 versions...but for instance, 2003 or 2007 have enterprise versions that can access more RAM
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: theoretically max at 4gb, i guess it could make use of the other 2gb as some kind of ram drive? dunno, extended paging?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gotta have pae turned on for more RAM
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: used to use page flipping on the old cbm64 to get it to use ram above 64k
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: i found this.... Abe-- can you tell if i can use more than one of the options??? Usage: splenviron.sh -e <environment> [-c <command>] [-q] [-h]
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: because to start the environment i have to type "splenviron.sh -e CCBDEMO" can i tack on the -c at the end?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: and with the -c can i do the whole "nohup threadpoolworker.sh -p DEFAULT=5 -d Y >/dev/null &" or is it going to drop out with the white-space? should i maybe call a script that only calls the threadpoolworker?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: datacenter edition of 2003/7 can have 64GBs of RAM, even in 32-bit versiontech -h 15
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, oops
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, I'd try the -c and use quotes around the whole threadpoolworker command
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if not, then yeah, an additional wrapper script
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: coolies.. thanks .... trying now :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what's the technical workaround for that, abe?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: technical workaround for which?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 32bit os with >4gb ram, how do they resolve it?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pae is Intel's solution to that, supported in W2k & later
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: ok Abe another question if i may.... when sending a "nohup ......... &" via ss... how do you create a "carriage-return" so the ss will continue with the rest of the script?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kojax Tech: I can't see my text aftter typing in telnet
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kojax Tech: i have turned on my echo too
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: have you considered not using telent, lol
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: no answer?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, it should automatically continue with the rest of the script, as that line ends in a &
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: it don't... it just sits there .... cause see the stuff sent to nohup is basically a log file... gets a ton of info... and even if i run the nohup ..... & at the command line i have to hit enter to get my prompt back...
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, weird...& should return you to prompt, but give you the process ID of the job that was just backgrounded (like [1] 1234)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheater Tech: anyone know what MXTask does for win xp?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: didja try even looking at the very first entry when you google MXTask?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheater Tech: why google when u have aard?? :P
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: lol, like i'd trust anything aard has to say about stuff
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: because people who play aard are thickies
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheater Tech: hey hey some really really smart people on here....... somewhere... ya... im sure there is
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: abelinc it doesn't show that... when i run the nohup ... & from the command line it does... but when i run it in the shell-script it does not
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: just kill the process and see wat breaks....
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: does anyone have a working exprate status script shared online? i found one on alhenas site, but it's not working for me
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: blackraven -- when i kill the process... it stops the nohup... then continues on with the script
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: i think blackraven was referring to mxtask  :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, before you said that even running it directly from command line required you to hit enter to return to prompt
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: but what i want... is to NOT kill the nohup becuase killing that also kills the threadpoolworker.sh and intern my batchprocessing ability
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: yes.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: but it showed the PID... but did not get me back to a $>
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: when i hit enter it drops me back to a $>
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so it doesn't give you that [1] 1234 until after enter?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delight Tech: in mushclient when there is text in my command line and I push up arrow, I get a prompt that asks me if I want to delete what I typed in exchange for something else.  does anybody know how to turn that off?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: no i run the nohup .... & and it give me the PID [123456] [1] .......... and then just sits there... i hit enter and it drops me to a $>
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: then i can continue on with my day... but if i run the nohup ... & from within the shellscript, it doesn't even show me the PID
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: does that make any sense?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: delight: I would like to know the answer to that question also, I haven't been able to find an option to turn if off yet
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: There is such an option. Go to World configuration -> Input -> Commands -> Keyboard Preferences -> Confirm before replacing typing.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: thanks abelinc!
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: here's another "monkey-wrench" would any of this have to do with the fact that i am connected via "putty"??? could that be screwing with it?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, the shell script wouldn't show the PID, but I'm surprised that it doesn't immediately give you another prompt when you do the &
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah, I'm always in via putty
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: ok... just wanted to make sure.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: ok... default shell is korn... i am telling it in my script to use #!/bin/bash.... that shouldn't do anything?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: i am just trying to illiminate things...
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just for fun, make sure that that's actually where bash is
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gunstling nods.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hmm. i have an alias: gt @GTime since last level~: @lvltimeday days, @lvltimehour~h@lvltimemin~m@lvltimesec~s~@w
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: --- /bin> ls -l bas* = lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     system           27 Aug 22 07:32 bash -> ../../opt/freeware/bin/bash
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: however the output is (Group) Seltsimees Dagnir: 'Time since last level: 0 days, '
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: that look right to you Abelinc/
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: if the #! is incorrect it should error out with bad interpreter or something
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, it's executable by everyone...I'd try typing bash to start a bash shell and doing the steps in the shell script to see if any of them behave differently than in your ksh
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although I can't say that it being writeable by world makes me comfortable ;-)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: that's a symlink
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: that is the way "IBM" server hosting services set up the server... 
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a symlink, but it would allow someone to ln -sf /any/file/I/want /bin/bash
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: ok... typed "bash" then typed the command to launch the threadpoolworker.sh from the command line... and it auto dumped me to the $>
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: no requirement of hitting enter
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: oh.... first line of the "threadpoolworker.sh" is #!/bin/sh --- what shell is that?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, it sounds like it's actually ignoring the shebang and running the script in ksh?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's bourne shell
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: father to bash (bourne again shell)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: oh.... 
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: what do mean "shebang"?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: not really, since /bin would not normally be writeable by anyone
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: "shebang" is the technical term for the #! bit 
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yhogurk, /bin doesn't need to be writeable to edit the symlink, try it on a test directory
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: ok... so if by typing "bash" then executing the nohup threadpool... & i don't get the pause at the command line... should i maybe try putting in a command in the shell-script changing from ksh to sh/bash?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: /bin only needs to be writeable to add/remove a "file", not to change files that already exist
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: oh... please accept my appologies for my ignorance 
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that top line in the shell script was supposed to do that
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: oh... yeah i read that in the "shell-scripting in a nutshell" by O'Reily :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the #!/bin/bash is telling it that you want bash to execute the script
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: i thought it meant to tell the current shell that "what i have written from here on out is written for bash" didn't know that it was telling the OS to change shells?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: i have a bunch of symlinks in my /bin directory, if any non-root user could delete or edit them in any way it would be a big-security problem, however i'm glad that it's not possible :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: here you go: http://www.faqs.org/faqs/unix-faq/faq/part3/section-5.html
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: any ideas??? 
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: i haven't been following the whole thing .... but can't you just run everything from one script?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: no... running the first shellscript creates a subshell within itself.... so what i am doing is wraping... calling a second script from the first one... and therefore executing the threadpoolworker.sh... my problem is... the nohup part of the command is hanging.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: yhogurk would you be interested in carring this convo in tells? or would you have an IM?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: and even the "guru's" on "unix-forums.com" aren't answering...
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: this is what i get when i kickoff the first script.... Build Directory .......... (SPLBUILD) : /data1/spl/cis/CCBDEMO/cobol/build --newline-- Runtime Directory .......... --newline-- (SPLRUN) : /data1/spl/cis/CCBDEMO/runtime --newline-- Sending output to nohup.out
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: i probably can't help much so tells or IM would be moot, one thing you may want to try is specifically put in an "exit" command after the nohup thing?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: and it just sits there after the sending output to nohup.... until i kill it with ctrl+c
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: and its that point... the hang after the "Sending output to nohup.out" that i need to stop... i need the script to keep going.... 
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: have you tried nohup'ing other programs to see whether it's a case of nohup being fsck'ed or your nohup'ed program being fsck'ed?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: when running nohup from the command line... including the "threadpoolworker.sh -p DEFAULT=5......." it works fine.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: no problems... 
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: i think there is something wrong/not correct syntax with my script
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: try changing the parent script (the one that calls the nohup) to something simple (like remove all the other commands) and see what happens
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: ok... trying now
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: ok... with not running the "nohup ... &" command everything runs beautifully... no issues what-so-ever.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: how can i make vars work with text after them? for example @hoursh @minutesm doesn't work. using zmud
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: @hours~h @minutes~m even
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: enclose the variable name with {}
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: enclose the variable name with {}
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: Yhogurk did you get my last tech note/
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: yeah gunstling, how are you calling the nohup part, is it via a subshell? if so, then try removing the subshell
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hmm. now i get {output}
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: subshell is called by the "splenviron.sh" which is a file that cannot be modified - directly from Oracle... that is why i am calling the second script "threadworkerstart.sh" that has this command in it --- "nohup threadpoolworker.sh -p DEFAULT=5 -d Y >/dev/null &"
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: [] seem to work
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: any ideas???
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: nope, sorry, my wild guess is that the subshell thing is causing problem :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: well damn...
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: roughly how big are zmud files can i run them off a thumb drive?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: the ppl on unix-forums aren't answering either
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: i think zmud uses registries, but it is small enough to fit on a thumb drive
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: ill try it later thanks
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: HEY!!!! Yhog... Abelinc... i figured it out....
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: how can i harvest the amount of gold with a trigger? i need to get rid of the comma e.g. You get 3,453 gold from blahblah
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: There's probably a toint() function or something, depending on what language you're using.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: get gold from corpse ?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: zscript
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: need to populate a var, blackraven
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: get %a gold from corpse ?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir sighs.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm talking aboot a trigger that adds the amount of gold to a var and ignores the comma
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: See if there's a tonumber() function, or something similar.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: In Lua, you'd just do tonumber(3,456), and it'd return 3456
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not using lua. i mentioned zscript before
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: There might be something similar in zscript
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: %number(s)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: Example:   #SHOW %number("7,000")  
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'll try it out, thanks
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: lol ok this works, i tested it  #SHOW %number(%remove(",","7,000")
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: you might want to use 0 instead of 0 tho
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: meh
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: you might want to use %int instead of %number tho
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: well the key function there is %remove
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: right, just saying
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: you'll run into less problems with %%int, depending on what your doing with the number
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: just adding gold to gold looted var
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Have you tried it without the remove()?  Most convert-to-number functions can handle commas, I think.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: shrug, number will probably work, Its mainly a preference, of which mine happens to be int
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: He has to remove the comma beforehand.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: neither %int() nor %number() convert  correctly
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei goes, "OK".
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: right, removing the comma is a must in zscript if you plan to do any math with the number.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: lol, btw the %remove() will only remove ONE comma
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: i was putting my whole 
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: use %replace or something
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: %int(%replace(%1.",","")) works
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: #SHOW %number(%replace("7,000,000",",","")     works nicely
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: erm minus the .  Dunno how that got there
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: that won't work there's no closing brackets ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also, (%d) doesn't work with the commas. using (*) makes no difference, right?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: use %a
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: %a for sure
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: Stay away from (*) if possible to capture something
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: %a according to manual matches alphanumeric?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: yes cause thats wat it is
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: comma isn't alphanumeric
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: since when was a comma alpha or numeric?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: one one said zmud was good, lol
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nope. it doesn't work
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: no-one
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: use %x
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: thats all non whitespace
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: %x works
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: yeah %x, damn im rusty
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: if you want to be more specific you could use [0-9,]
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: overkill     =)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: regexes are much sexier
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: hey i figured out why it was hanging... i was using string variables to run my commands because of options needed to execute.... i had the nohup and the & inside the string variable... i moved them to the outside... and BLAM!!! it worked
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: its always the little things
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: tech can you imagine zmud's implentation of regex....  yuck
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: no PCRE lib's linked in there
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: I prefer regex pattern matching over zscript in zmud/cmud any day
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: lots of hardcore programmers have nightmares over regex, so having some simple pattern matching stuff, with the option of a bit more advanced cut-down pcre seems to be a good decison on zmud's part
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: its only a nightmare when its not working
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: regex is voodoo
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: the nightmare is understanding it
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Secretary Timeghost Tech: regexps drive civilization! ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Secretary Timeghost Tech: and natural selection :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: regex is evil cause you cant comment the damn stuff
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: most are pretty easy to understand
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: of course you can comment it
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: knowing regex doesn't get you the girls (or the boys) so can't drive natural selection :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Secretary Timeghost Tech: takes a page of text to comment a one-line proper regexp - why bother :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: could say the same of perl one-liners :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Secretary Timeghost Tech: perl IS all about regexps
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: perl is corrupted line-noise
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spodgy Tech: at least you dont need obfuscation
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: perl oneliners are prayers to satan
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Secretary Timeghost Tech: yet Perl does what it's made to do - 5 pages of pure C or a one-liner in Perl :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: but you don't actually have to write it that way
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: now, APL... there's a language you _do_ have to write that way
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: C was never desigen for string manipulation
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Secretary Timeghost Tech: exactly BR - Perl was. It has a syntax which allows to do what it was MADE to do with the least amount of keystrokes.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: yes... put you CAN write nice code in perl too... lol
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: but*
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: i'm glad that these days if you want something more powerful than shell scripting you have a choice of ruby, python and php
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: agreed...  choose the right tool for the job
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: how do I lock the spellup window in place so that it dosent scroll up and down on its own
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what spellup window?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirian Tech: Guys, what do you think about MSI Wind U100 and Lenovo IdeaPad S10? Choosing a netbook...
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: i hate COGNOS!
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: Any ideas why zmud and telnet would stop working but the java client would?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: would what?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: Was just on java client...
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: Strange. 2 minutes ago zmud and telnet wouldn't connect. Tried java, connected. Now zmud and telnet work. *boggle*
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: is it possible to share maps between sessions in cmud?  I've got the map up, and portals seem to work, but #find won't.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: never mind....had room tags on....*sigh*
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asyria Tech: Hey, I'm looking for some kind of Ajax-based mud client.  My job has no telnet program, can't even install Javascript, but I could use a web interface
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: dont play from work?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus is agreeing with that Global Menace person again...
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asyria Tech: I'm often stuck doing support and being on call, there's nothing TO do
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: that's too obvious a solution.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Maybe you should pay more attention to your call than to what's going on online.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asyria Tech: 'on call' as in 'waiting in case something catches fire'.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asyria Tech: Like, 'okay, rolling out the new website...this will take a few hours...anything could go wrong...nothing could go wrong...but nobody goes home until it's done'
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: ask your IT department if theyll open telnet for you. if not then i think they dont want you telnetting places
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Then bring a laptop to work and play from there. ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asyria Tech: Bah, so unhelpful.  I've seen a few Ajax clients before, I know they exist, I even have a webserver to run my own if I can find the software but they all seem homebrew for a specific MUD :P
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Why not google it, then?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asyria Tech: Because I've been doing that for the last hour >_>
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asyria Tech: Ah well, thanks anyway :D
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: tech channel generally isn't supportive of breaking network rules at work
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asyria Tech: ah
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: because half of the people are sys admins
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Telnetting is often blocked for a reason, and really, we don't want to be the ones responsible for you getting fired.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asyria Tech: It's not blocked, Vista just doesn't come with it, and there's a 'no outside software' policy that apparently extends to Java.  They're pretty apathetic about network use for the most part
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Vista comes with it.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: it comes with it
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You just have to enable it.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: its in the services
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Do a search for enabling telnet.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: optional istall
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I had to enable mine for telnet, too.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: services is the server, not the program
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: They disabled it as a default.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asyria Tech: ooo
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asyria Tech: I never used Vista before the job, so
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: enabling it in services would be to let you telnet into a dos shell, that was disabled by default in xp as well
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Go to Control Panel -> Programs and Features -> Turn Windows Features on.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asyria Tech: Nice, thanks
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asyria Tech: I'm guessing you need to be administrator to do that though?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, it's an optional component for the telnet client
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd hope so :-)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Then choose Telnet. It'll take quite a bit to update, though (like 5, maybe 10 minutes).
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Either that or have administrator rights. ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asyria Tech: Well, I guess I need to buy the IT guys some beer one way or another
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asyria Tech: Anyway, thanks!
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: how do i concatenate strings in LUA?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: question -- looking for an application that will allow me to put in calculas algarythms and characters... using linux... any ideas?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: re: your brain
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: yes... but i want to put it down on paper/computer :)0000
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Totalia Tech: ok, i got NWN:diamond and i'm running vista and it wont play it bc of compatability issues any help?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: question about a MAC OSX disk here and windows - is there a way I can burn this disk, bit for bit, with some windows application and a burner?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: probably more useful to look at the bioware forums
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: is that answer for me or Totalia Yhogurk?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: totalia :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: ok :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: as for you meeper, what disc are you talking about? hard disk or cd?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: the DVD with osx on it. I purchased on and tried an install and the disk came out all scratched. Apple have replaced it thank goodness but I'm worried it was my machine that caused it so I want to burn a backup to use just in case.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: just play a cd you don't want with the drive?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: if it's not copy-protected (would apple stoop so low?) then any cd copying software worth it's salt should be able to copy it
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: played a cd, its fine, burnt a dvd image that's fine, still worried about running the osx dvd through it though.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: just want to burn the dvd bit for bit, I originally thought fabdvd decrypter but not sure if that'll work a. with apple disks and b. on data rather than just DVD movie disks.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: i don't know what fabdvd is, but just a general cd/dvd burning app should do it
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: ok I'll give it a shot - fabdvd is a burning program that does things like strip the protection from the disk and compress or not.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: primarily for DVD movies I think.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: prob not useful in your case :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: possibly not.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: hulu is god
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: hulu is nice
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit Tech: its decent
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: any other suggestions?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit Tech: the commercials can be a bit much
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: What commercials? :P
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: oh you mean those 30 second pauses when it bugs me about having commercials blocked
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: lol
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit Tech: i meant the 10-15 second forest fire msg's :P
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, but hulu is legit...that means it can't be good!
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: any other sites  you could suggest
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit Tech: what is it, surfthechannel.com?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: i miss joox
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit Tech: alluc is good as well
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: anyone got atreidiss's repop notifier to work?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: or at least know how to delete it? lol
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: that's so ... socialist thinking :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: mis :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Is anyone else having problems logging into Hotmail at the moment?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: have to admit, word 2007 is growing on me
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: Like a fungus?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nah
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: guess you're just a fungi *rimshot
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's slick
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: for once they took an existing product, took a step back, and thought very hard about how to make it better
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: I'm using Debian.  Messages that are automatically sent by the system root tend to really screw up any ncurses-based programs I'm using at the time.  Is there a way to be able to see the messages without them carving up my screen?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't make a habit of being root console
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: I don't - I'm logged on to my normal user account
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Anyone here have the yahoo instant messenger available and willing to help me test something?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ross, depending on distro, it may be controlled by klogd, printk, or syslogd.conf file
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: doesnt matter what distro...
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: linux still bites :p
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Please take religious debate to the debate channel
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: bt there is no debate :p
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: sounds like you need to tweak syslog
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: failing that, try CRTL-R
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone here experienced trouble with vista's backup progrma?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: program*
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: didn't realise people used it, most people with any real use for backups use some level of raid, cost is outweighted by performance and speed.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: people should't rely on a raid
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir is agreeing with that Tigernuts person again...
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: there's lots of things people shouldn't rely on ...
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: some big site just got screwed with relying on raid
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and certainly a Raid does not replace the need to backup
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: not on its own but using some crap back up program that shipped with windows has burn more people than paying 80$ for ghost.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: just had an email from a client moaning that vista crashes everytime it tries to back up, so i'll prolly just take over GoodSync with me
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: good, small, and free
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nogs, m$ took their eye off the ball with their backup prog.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the dollar sign is pretty cool there. how aboot appl and #enovo?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hmm. euro sign is not working :\
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: not sure how lenevo gets the sterling treatment :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: true, apple by far and away should get to use some kind of currency symbol for their peddling of vastly overpriced things
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: lenovo makes money, duh
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: all companies are out to make money otherwise they would be called charities. it's how some companies make money that makes them despicable
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hmm. zmud cannot handle the euro symbol :\
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why anyone would want to pay nearly 800 quid for a mac is beyond me
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's shiny
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: and light
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and you have to have one, if you wan't to look cool in a coffeshop
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: given than a pc of better spec will cost you just over half
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: or if you're an artist. because ps runs so much better on macs
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: it's about software tnuts
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: heh, and apple's uk store is broken
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: graphic designers, artists, architects are better off with macs if I recall
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: os x is a great os for stupid people
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's nice and it works great
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and musicians
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although less so today than in the past
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: everybody knows that you can't make music on a pc
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 700 quid for a core 2 duo with 120gb 1gb ram, and integrated intel gfx. The only thing vaguely innovative is it's polycarbonate shell
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: actually, you can do just the same on the pc, it's just that the mac software is the industry-preferred
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: as someone likes to say, people want something that just works :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: more power to them :-)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: and that is why people buy apple :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: wise buyers would maybe buy a pc and just stick mac os on it?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hell, it wasn't until pretty recently that multiple monitors on a PC wasn't a major PITA
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: for me the problem is that it just works. it's not working the way i'd like it to work. so i use linux
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: eh? i've been using dual monitors for a decade
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: Mac OSX is not allowed to be run on a commodity PC.  No support.  Whatsoever.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: whereas it was "stick in a card and plug in the monitor" on a Mac since they came out
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft whips out the P01N+33 stick and savagely pokes at Tigernuts's gut!
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: mee too. i have a bed monitor :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: can you vm it, lechter?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: Mac OSX is only allowed to be installed on Mac-approved hardware.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: doesn't also violates the eula when running on non-apple hardware?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: Exactly.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the people that would have the skills to VM it can also run it without the VM...takes some work, but can run on commodity hardware
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what, and they haven't had a lawsuit yet?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no reason for a lawsuit
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: A couple companies have been sued into bankruptcy by Apple for doing just that.  Then Apple likes to include "updates" which break installations on non-Apple-approved hardware
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: monopolistic practices and all
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: l
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/10/20/macosx_on_a_pc/
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd need a monopoly to be sued as a monopoly :P
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: appple also like to include updates that break unlocked iphones
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: apple updates break everything that has been modified
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they have a monopoly on the hardware for apple os's
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: lol apple is a hardware company, not a software company....   
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: wrong term, closed architecture, monopoly is when they're the only OS in town :P
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: looks like a suspiciously similar argument to me
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: umm, and BMW has a monopoly for BMW cars...
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's pretty much a "duh" statement, tiger
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but you can change the seats and the steering wheel on a bmw
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: does macos bundle with a web browser?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and a media player?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: you know if apple really did have a monopoly on anything wouldn't ms be the first to sue? or get one of their proxy companies to do so, ala sco?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and I can change the hard drive and monitor on a Mac
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: seriously? all by yourself?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i wonder what a crisis there'd be if all light bulbs were like that one hanging in that new york fire dept
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: Great.  Now change the motherboard.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: of course, dag
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: make broken stuff so we can employ somebody to fix it - the tech age
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: the reason the NY fire dept light has lasted do long is cause it never gets turned off
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: also it's very low wattage iirc
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: like  all electrail equipment, the wear come at inital powerup
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: they got like mountains of empty monitor and pc cases over on them poor countries coasts
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: btw i don't think it's in a ny department
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: but reusing stuff like that would be counter productive to the oil industry
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: can't reuse a lot of it
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not economically viable to reuse the rest
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: recycling is a charity, it's unprofiable
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Honestly, Abelinc sends over an AT case to help out
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: there will come a time when oil and metals become so scarce that it will become viable
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: but not for at least a century yet
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, but I'll be dead
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: they'll start digging holes in other planets
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they can't get to other planets yet
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: till the whole universe is lopsided
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: not while the US govy bails out it's mega corps for failing (we call that communism here)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i doubt studies had been done on the affects of all them layers of earth that get exhumed on the planetary cycles
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: before they started making money from it
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: i think it's iconic that one of the executives of the detroit car companies flew in on a company jet to ask the govt for a handout
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they should be allowed to go into administration, broken up, and sold off/shut down
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: like iron is magnetic, and magnetite is magnetic, maybe they were there for a purpose
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: alot in physics deals with magnets
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: adam smith says: let the market be free
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: given that they produce crap cars that sell ok-ish in america, but nowhere else
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: they only sell in the us because petrol is so heavily subsidised
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: hot air rises, and potash is underground
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kheftiu makes an innocent face and says: 'Listen baby - WASNTME!'.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, they sell nowhere else just because they're rebranded in other parts of the world :P
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: should ban the sale of any car that won't do at least 50mpg and max 150co2
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: something like that was proposed in california but the car companies lobbied washington and got it overturned or something
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: which is easily achieved with petrol hybrid, fuel cell, or diesel technology
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's because the american government is ultimately a bunch of pansies
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: protectionist pansies at that
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kieram Tech: why does zmud hate me
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as opposed to the british laws on the subject...
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: politicians know who their paymasters are
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kieram Tech: it never saves my settings no matter how many times i save
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: many european cars don't get imported to the US because they don't meet emissions
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: UK laws have been tightened up, and the new euro laws being contemplated do exactly that, or very close
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kieram Tech: any one else ever have a problem with zmud not saving changed settings even tho you click save
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: how much did you pay for your zmud, kieram, and when?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when he paid for it isn't relevant to him asking for help with it saving
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: heh
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: well, one of the issues is that in america, depending on where you live it's just about impossible to get around without a car
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: Zmud doesn't save until program closes properly, saving a change to your settings does nothing until you close zmud other than change the setting in memory :P
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's kinda irrelevent, majic
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: requiring everyone to buy expensive (and newer, because many older cars don't do that) would be a hardship for anyone who lives in a rural area or in a place without public transit
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kieram Tech: so i click save settings and then how do i quit properly
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: no, it's not
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: if you crash out or windows reboots to boot in updates then changes are lost
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: legislating for the quality of new cars doesn't affect the second hand market at alll
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kieram Tech: i usually type quit and then when zmud prompts me i click to quit zmud
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: people could get around in a more  environmently friendly car
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yhogurk, if they could afford one
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if you leglislated for environmentally considerate NEW cars, then they'll filter through to second hand over the course of 5-10 years
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: you said 'ban the sale', you didn't say 'ban the sale of new cars'
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: sorry, that's what i meant
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: if i understand the situation most people have been buying new cars on credit for the past decade or two
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: I don't. I drive old junkers
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: that's why the car companies are in such a mess because the credit market froze
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kieram Tech: any sugestions on why zmud might be ignoring my saved settings? or how to fix it?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: I have never bought a car on credit and I do not intend to do so.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, my most expensive car to date was $2,800
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: my car's on credit
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: my last one was $500, and while it doesn't get 50 mpg, it gets about 33
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: dunno, kiaram, try creating a new connection, new set of settings, and importing the old ones in
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kieram Tech: k i will try that
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: mine was the best part of $9000
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: though is saving me about $25 a week in running costs compared to my old lovely one
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: which i still miss dearly
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: are you converting the figures to $ for the benefit of international players?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nogs
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you have to convert everything to american on here, because most americans don't believe anything exists outside of their country
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: agree tiger
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kieram Tech: not true
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: damn straight :-)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kieram Tech: theres an ocean out there i think
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we believe it exists...we just don't give a shit
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: so 9000 divided by 25/week means hrm ... in only 360 weeks, it'll pay for itself
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it'll pay for itself over the lifespan of the car
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: abel, that attitude is wat got the twin towers wasted, lol
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kieram Tech: not true black
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no it isn't, BR
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: you're keeping it for 6 yrs?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not even remotely close
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: twin towers got wasted because they wanted to build something else there
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yeah, about 6 years i'd expect
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You fall to the floor laughing at Tigernuts's remark.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kieram Tech: lol
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's probably about it's natural life span, given it's 3 years old now
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then again, when you live on a little island, how much can you drive?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: drive about 12k a year
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 12,000 miles that is
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not 12 kilometers
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You snicker softly.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: -5
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Skydeth Tech: how easy is it to make a field on a website where a customer could put a code in, and it takes them to a page where they download a coupon?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: to do it and make it not abusable? difficult
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Skydeth Tech: no just simple.  Its really just a way to get people to come to the site.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Skydeth Tech: I dont care if they abuse it lol
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: how many codes/vouchers?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: basically if you know how then it's simple to do, although to do it secure requires more knowledge, if have you to ask you would be better off paying someone a few quid to do it for you
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Skydeth Tech: we made a mailer, that says enter promo code style1 for instance for $100 a purchase of 800 or more.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: could probably be done with php then
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: hope you didn't spam those mails out :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Skydeth Tech: yea our webmaster wants us to buy software our boss doesnt want to
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: doesn't he have php server?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Skydeth Tech: Im not sure
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: get a new "webmaster" if s/he reckons they need new software :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Skydeth Tech: exactly
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Skydeth Tech: I agree
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: sounds like an excuse to me
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: times are hard, you work within what you have
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Skydeth Tech: yea, and were in high end retail.  Hit the hardest
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: even if time weren't hard something that simple could be done in 5mins and maybe a little longer to do it securely
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Skydeth Tech: so I guess Im curious is it simple html coding or css?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: your "webmaster" sounds like a clueless cowboy
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Skydeth Tech: he is, but he has charmed my boss somehow.  
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Skydeth Tech: I know when hes saying something, he lies
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Skydeth Tech: lol its sad to see my boss take it up the ***
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: your boss is a woman?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: See you may have identified why your boss lets him ...
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Skydeth Tech: LOL
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: maybe if you delve a little you can find something to blackmail your boss :P
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: to do it totally non-securely you could simply use html, to do it properly you need some server-side scripting, and knowledge of how to secure requests
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tears Tech: Anyone there to help with installing something?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eternal Domain Tech: anyone familiar with adobe acrobat prof?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit Tech: im familar with bat guano
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what's your question, domain?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dire Wolfe Tech: This isn't a problem as such, but I've been wondering a while...
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: yes, you do suck
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dire Wolfe Tech: Oh, I knew that.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dire Wolfe Tech: Chargers/adapters for things like laptops. A lot of them, on the cable that goes to the thing being charged, they have like a cylinder of magnetic material encasing the material near the end. What's that do, exactly?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ferrous ring
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dire Wolfe rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i -believe- they're for reducing em interference, i could be wrong
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dire Wolfe Tech: Exactly. And it's there for... what, aesthetic purposes?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Secretary Timeghost Tech: Wolfe - current reduction/amplification
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: damn gaardian spy, why haven't you finished t1 yet? ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Secretary Timeghost Tech: just an inductive coil and in some cases added resistance
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft prods Dire Wolfe into action!
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nothing to do with current
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: A ferrite bead is a passive electric component used to suppress high frequency noise in electronic circuits. Ferrite beads employ the mechanism of high dissipation of high frequency currents in a ferrite to build high frequency noise suppression devices. Ferrite beads may also be called ferrite cores, ferrite rings, ferrite EMI filters, or mistakenly as ferrous beads
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dire Wolfe Tech: Fair enough. I just couldn't figure out why some things have 'em, some don't.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Secretary Timeghost Tech: Tigernuts: then explain how my external USB HDD won't work from a cable for the camera which DOES have that blob, but WILL work with any direct cable ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Secretary Timeghost Tech: I KNOW there are induction coils and resists plugged into all of them I came across.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft grabs some popcorn and sits back to watch the show.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 2.5" or 3.5", tg?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Secretary Timeghost Tech: the HDD gets detected and all - what it doesn't get is enough power to spin to full
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: or is that a personal question?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: line noise ?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Secretary Timeghost smirks.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 2.5" external drives run awfully close to the maximum allowed current drawable from a usb port
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if you're having trouble, try plugging it into a powered usb hub
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft nogs at Tigernuts. Freaks!
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: that's hocus pocus, all it does is provide a grip to yank the cables out
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: poor quality cable with high resistance wires
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Secretary Timeghost Tech: I'm not having trouble, I have cables of both sorts in abundance :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: usb draws perhaps 300ma current..can't remember precisely, but not enough to self power most hdds, mine has a power lead 
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nogs, then the difference in impedance might be enough to shove it over the limit
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 5v, 500ma
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 2.5W max draw
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's per hub, not per port
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: nogs..just used to have trouble with that old external usb dsl modem of mine
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: bad solder joins ?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dire Wolfe Tech: I know my iPod would bitch tremendously if I connected it to a USB hub, vs. a direct USB socket on the tower. Not enough power or somesuch.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Secretary Timeghost Tech: my HDD works perfectly fine from a laptop that's running off its battery - IF you use a cable without the silliness added to it :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: TG, that's because there's no such thing as perfect efficiency
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: well, mine is one of those wg mybook devices, 500 gb, came with a seperat power cable
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i try to avoid external hdd's myself
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: you see? go forth and create a room temp superconductor for powering it
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft prods Secretary Timeghost into action!
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: i love ext 2.5" drives, never has an issue, even with the cheapies
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they're only ordinary hdd's in a caddy, y'know
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nothing magical about them
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the ferrite cores have no attachment to the cable itself, they're a 2-halve snap-on
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Secretary Timeghost Tech: Abelinc: there's no perfect efficiency, what I'm saying is that the cables with that little blob vary the V/A ratio, and often have resistors built in to reduce power for devices that don't want much of it
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, tiger, but they're hella lot more convenient than internals
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't have to reduce power for devices that don't want much of it...devices are supplied the power that they draw
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the same reason that your 750watt power supply supplies 300 watts when that's all you're using
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: is there even a point to the ferret ring give the lack of cost to shield the cable from noise?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: or about 180 in my case
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: ferret ring?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft sniggers quietly to himself, reflecting over an amusing thought.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: good description for those, small and get into annoying places
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: lalala sorry for the multiple typos there ferrite ring and the fact that shielding the whole USB cable is trivial in terms of cost.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's about the extent of their use, fates...they let the cables be skimpier and still pretend to fit spec for signal transmittal
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Secretary Timeghost Tech: Abelinc: you're wrong about using power
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: sorry..I was just sniggering at the ferret ring
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: it brought strange mental images to mind
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft disembowels a ferret and wraps it around his power cable.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: chuft you can't use them to replace your gerbils for gerbiling. :P
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dire Wolfe Tech: I was thinking it was more ferret protection. Stop the buggers nibbling on the cables.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: gossip i wanna see that movie now
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Secretary Timeghost Tech: if you're supplied 220V, you'll use a LOT of power - vs your light bulb that gets the same 220V. The end result is you'll be fried. Resistance is built into devices, yet if you supply too much - they get fried. You need the right balance of V/A for a device to get the power it needs - supply too much, and you fry it.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: mt
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: gerbils? after buying my hardware from farky, I'd be lucky to get anything so newfangled as gerbil power.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: timeghost, that "balance" is part of the usb spec, and has nothing to do with your cables
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Secretary Timeghost Tech: you'd be as fried at 220V, 1mA as you'd be fried at 10 V, 1 A
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you have a device that behaves differently with different cables, then (1) you've got cables that don't meet usb spec, or (2) you've got a device that doesn't meet usb spec
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the ferrite core has nothing to do with it
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: some people like rings
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not everything is built to spec as it should. Ask Sir Alan Sugar
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tears Tech: ANyone know what to use to open Configuration files?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: can you ask it again and not mid-sentence, please?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tears Tech: I need to know how to open a configuration file..?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yes?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: First, you write the lexer...
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Really depends on the configuration file. Most of the time, you can use notepad to open it.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: try notepad
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: real men use vim
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i prefer nano, really
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: real men use sed
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: real men use regedit.exe
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Real men use paper and pen.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: real men do rm -rf /
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: real men get other ppl to do it for them
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: #rm, that is
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: then go fishing, lol
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tears Tech: I need help finding the file. =/
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: real men drop-kick koalas into lakes
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Surprisingly hard to do.  The little buggers can CLING.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: real men look at the koala and it goes and tosses itself in
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Tears: you mean to tell us that you need to actually find the file first?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Real men know when to stfu about real men.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: lol
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tears Tech: I found the file. Just not through notepad.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: drag and drop wins, lol
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: real men will swim to the open sea and play a drowning shipwreck wictim and waits for the dolphins to come and save him and then kill them with bare hands
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: wait, even
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tears Tech: Got it. Thanks Black
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you use notepad to search files?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: real men use grep
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Are you seriously still going on about 'real men?' Refer to my last statement about real men.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: real men don't tell others not be real men :P
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: uh?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jumala Pohhui Tech: real man turn tech chann off if they hear abt what real men are
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: real men take it to debate channel ?   lol
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Yhogurk: I never said anything about people not being real men. I just said 'Real men know when to stfu about real men.' ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: real men like sandwitches
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: but real men like to boast about being real men. (that's my last)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jumala Pohhui Tech: real men skip the sandwich and have a beer
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: -w
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: real men aren't american
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and english girls tend to be hideous
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: true true
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Does that mean english girls are real men?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: the english rose is prickly and poisonous
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: no more so than the avg slapper anywhere
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liliya Tech: It means English men are real girls
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not if they're from north
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jumala Pohhui Tech: any real man around?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i don't qualify
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ivar, maybe?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: male, is that enough ?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not for real men
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jumala Pohhui Tech: real men dont tell anyone that they are real men
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: agreed
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: anyone have a suggestion for a book to learn C++ from?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: I'd be interested in that as well, or maybe Lua.  C for Dummies made a valiant attempt but even they couldn't penetrate my adamantium skull.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: C != C++
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: (and if you can't wrap your head around C, you need to stay way the heck away from C++)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Razor is agreeing with that Not an Imm Erikson person again...
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: those for dummy books suck anyway
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: as for lua, www.lua.org/pil
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: currently im looking at C++ Primer Plus
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: feel free to check out the lua coding/goals section on aardwolf.com and sign up for some practice:)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: don't forget to put the cat out
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryu Tech: Eh anyone else experience this message on msn?   The following message could not be delivered to all recipients:
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Usually means they logged off.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Either that, or a bad connection somewhere.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryu Tech: well my yahoo works fine...and its for any contact on msn
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus shrugs helplessly.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: You're sure about that?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryu Tech: Lol yeah....going to just download trillian now..
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: You used yahoo to send to msn contacts and you verified with each of those contacts the the message arrived? No? Then how do you know yahoo didn't simply fail to deliver to some but just not bother to inform you?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: the the = that the
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryu Tech: Well I meant I dont have a bad connection...because yahoo messenger is working fine, using msn messenger seperately
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryu Tech: I think its just msn, how do you import contacts to yahoo?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It may not be you with the bad connection.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: is there away to get rid of the spaces between the text paragraph thingies in the main window in zmud?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: some are single spaced others are double spaced
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: #TRIGGER {^$} {#gag}
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You can use 'compact' here, too.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: i think compactis what i was looking for but that trigger might work better
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Get ur Hotcakes Tech: Can anyone tell me why I can't see my .mud files when I export them to my desktop in vista?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blailus Tech: anyone online that understands scripting entries into the zmud mapper database well?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blailus Tech: anyone know how to properly use the %roomnote function in Zmud?  I don't understand why it's not allowing me to set the note of the room I'm currently in
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: how i search for a word in my window on mushclient?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: ctrl+f
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: anyone have a campaign script for MUSHclient?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: define campaign script?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: just a script that will run you to the exact room of the mob of your choice
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blailus Tech: GL with that =)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: hrm
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: lol i know :P
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: wouldnt you need the maps and all of that (does mush) have a mapdb support
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: yeah you would :(
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Get ur Hotcakes Tech: Does anyone know why I can't save my aardwolf .mud files to my desktop in windows vitsa?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Get ur Hotcakes Tech: I've tried to save them as different files just to see if they will show up.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: So friggin' sad... http://xkcd.com/530/
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dire Wolfe Tech: What's the P2P client of choice nowadays? Still Frostwire?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phish Tech: anyone use peerguardian2?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: anyone have a suggestion for a reputable website to check xp process's out on ?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: i.e. checking process's to see if they are malicious software etc?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: I just came in, what did I miss?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skrad Tech: lavsoft adaware is a good free malware detectin proggy
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: I have spybot .. would hat suffice?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: I never did trust those programs
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skrad Tech: never used that one, so can't really comment on it
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: if you're suspicious about a particular process you see on Task monitor, just type it in to google and there will be several websites that explain what it is
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: anyone recommend a good vob converter for mac?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: I can't seem to get my trigger to work in the mush client, is there anything obvious that I might have missed?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: can i ignore the record number when using the #find function?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: a bit confused with the documentation. how can i use #show to grab a value from a record in a database?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: in what client, and what db source?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: #showdb ?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: using the zmud db? you don't want to do that, it sucks
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: use external ado sql calls
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: do those work with zmud 7.04?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: yes
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: nod thanks
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: it's dog slow, i'm using ado to mapper db to update portal costs and it's really s-l-o-w
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: #SHOWDB %dbget(record) gives me the whole record, but i need the value of one field
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: using &field notation for zmud
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: of the form #var blah %item(@weaponsearch,1);#dbget @blah;get &Name bag
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not doing it right #SHOWDB %dbget(record,&field)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i get all the fields like this
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: if you only want to display a single field then don't use #showdb :) just #show, or #say
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: still gives me the whole rec
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: %dbget doesn't seem to be used the way you're using it, the 2nd optional argument is for format
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: seems so. but i still can't figure out how to pull the value i need
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: the sure way to do it is assign the whole record to a var then do #show ar.field
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ok. got it #show %db(rec,field)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ok. next problem - i can pull the value and send it to the mud, but it ignores semicolons in the value and the mud treats it as one command
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: it's a wild stab, but can you replace the semicolons with tilded semicolons?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: (escaped)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: how are you sending to mud? i use #EXEC var_containing_semicolon_separated_commands
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that works, thanks yhogurk
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ok. now how can i search for only the fields, that have something specific in another one?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: right now i use #FIND '%1' view to pull all the values that match it. i'd like to disregard the ones that don't have another value that i'm looking for
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: i'm not sure zmud's limited db query syntax would allow that, heck it doesn't even allow you to mix AND & OR in %query, you may have to look at using ado
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: any good guides/references to ado you can point me to?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: i just used the ones on zuggsoft website
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ok. found it. thanks
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i can, but it only saves the active sheet for some reason
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: mis
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: this may seem like a silly question but lasher's note about the spellup cmd said mutually exclusive spells would check 'if affected then' why not just have them check something like 'if queued then' ?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: well drat that was meant for ft but I'll prolly get a better response here
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: lasher also said it was a convience and not intended to replace clientside scripts but something there if you had nothing.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: nod. I already have a script like most. I'm just trying to think through the problem
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: is it possible to colour #find output?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maaloc Tech: in mush can you create a one time trigger in the prompt?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DarkHowler Tech: Anyone here play Crysis?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: NO!
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DarkHowler Tech: ...
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mauler Tech: The answer is 4.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DarkHowler Tech: Know any sites to see if I can rnu a game?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baron Pedron Tech: Yeah, I'll send you a link.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DarkHowler Tech: Thanks
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Baron Pedron gallantly tips his hat to DarkHowler.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modi Tech: so i recently reinstalled windows xp, sp2+sp3 and now i cant  d/l media files.. they stop at 99%.. any ideas?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Striad Tech: torrents?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modi Tech: whats that
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Striad Tech: file sharing technology
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: a technique of downloading
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modi Tech: i need to install it?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: no
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Striad Tech: nope, was just looking for a clarification to your problem , if it was what i thought it was, but it is not
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Striad Tech: out of the box answers is download the latest network card driver for your system and install it
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: when d/ling torrents if it stops at 99% it may mean it's not being seeded, however you're not using torrents so that's not the issue
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modi Tech: ive no idea.. they just sit at 99% and time out
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Striad Tech: outside of that, if you have extra network cards sitting around try installing one and putting its driver on there, and see if that resolves the issue...
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modi Tech: i use windows media player
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modi Tech: i have the most basic system imaginable
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Striad Tech: try network driver update =)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modi Tech: yea i dont know what a network card is
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modi Tech: i use netzero.. thats prob my problem
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: are you trying to download them all from the same site?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modi Tech: just from emails
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modi Tech: but ive never gotten them to work on any site since i formatted and reinstalled windows
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Striad Tech: tried updating windows media player?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: i like my nic card, its double the card.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: I would check my network drivers
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modi Tech: network meaning isp?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: no your nic card software
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: to make sure it's up to date
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Striad Tech: i think hes on dial up... he said net zero
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Global Menace laughs at .          Jilted mercilessly.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miquiz Tetzahuitl Tech: maybe a virus program is screwing it up
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: well the modem would have drivers
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: all hardware has drivers
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: modem is not a nic
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: and nic already has card in it
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: indeed not
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modi Tech: i think i need a new modem anyway.. this one is too damn slow
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: modems dont go fast
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modi Tech: well its 56k
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: and it wont reach that
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: I was saying if he's on dialup then he's on a modem and it has drivers. If he has a NIC like he said he does then that too has drivers.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: 56k is max
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: .          Jilted nods at Global Menace.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hail! Ceasar Tech: yeah but isn't there some FCC rule limiting them to like 53.something?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modi Tech: well i need better service huh.. something with a router
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: yeah FCC limits it
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: thats why i said it wont reach 56k
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: .          Jilted nods at Modi.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: get a cable modem
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modi Tech: just kinda pisses me off.. it worked before i went and deleted my hard drive..
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modi Tech: maybe a firewall issue?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modi Tech: but they would stop the d/l from even starting, no?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: you 'deleted' your harddrive?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modi Tech: i formatted it
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: said he reformatted
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: ohhh
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: did you reinstall your modem drivers?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: did you call your providers tech support?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modi Tech: no.. thats a good idea
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modi Tech: and no on the modem driver either.. it did that auto i guess
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modi Tech: i dont have softward for it
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: you can download it from the manufacturer's website
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: most driver software can be found online...and then downloaded, so nvm
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: he can't download...or is that only media files?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: windows probably loaded the lucent driver for the modem and it probably doesnt work well with your comp
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modi Tech: i bet it is something wrong with that though.. cuz im having other issues with the modem as well
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modi Tech: yea i think thats prob it
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modi Tech: i do remember lucent somthing.. ok thanks ill try that
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modi Tech: thanks all
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: how does one use this database plug-in on mushclient?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the what?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: has anyone done a vista upgrade from xp?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Striad Tech: yes
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: i prefer fresh installs
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Striad Tech: from xp pro to vista enterprise
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Striad Tech: but only because the user wouldnt let me fresh install =( always fresh install if you can
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that's great joelz. I'll be sure to ask you when I care about a fresh install
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: striad, did you have to reinstall any of your programs?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fae Wino Joelz beams with pride at Ol' Dirty Fiendish.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: always happy to be a help
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Striad Tech: a few, the printer scanning software.. custom monitoring and patch deployment app, but almost all went through flawlessly, (its lists the programs for you which failed during the upgrade process) and well it got about 1/2 of em in the list
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Striad Tech: i was acutally supprised, but i used a vista sp 1 cd...
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Striad Tech: but pre installed office, and all MS apps, and even stuff like quickbooks and other commen business tools worked fine :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Striad Tech: i of course took a backup image before hand, because id idnt want to deal with it if it went down the tube
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ok
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Striad Tech: good luck *cringe... MS OS upgrade =(*
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: as long as visual studio and perforce continue to run I'll be happy :p
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: well i'm considering either vista 64 or xp 64, and I'd rather not upgrade to an old version
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Striad Tech: as someone who has used both Vista 64, and xp 64, .. vista 64 is much eaier, alot more driver support, less teeth grinding..  (all the XP-> vista) upgrades ive done have been 32 bit... My 64 vista was a fresh install, but my quad 2.6, with 8 gb of ram is nice :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ok thanks
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Get ur Hotcakes Tech: Anyone know much about bootcamp?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: whats the question?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Striad Tech: used it a few times...
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: i use it a bit
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Get ur Hotcakes Tech: osx isn't seeing my windows 7 partition from the bootcamp app, however I can boot into windows 7 by holding option
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Striad Tech: done all your mac updates?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I'm sad because my BIOS sees my second HDD, but Windows 7 doesn't. :(
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Get ur Hotcakes Tech: yep.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: whats the function in zmud to round off a floating point number to a certain number of decimal places?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: or rather display it with a certain number of decimal places
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: %format("2",number)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Replace the 2 with the desired number of decimals.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: got it thanks
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: is there a site that lists all the functions in a categorised form..sort of like the php.net site..can't seem to find it on the zmud site
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: There's one built in... go to Help - Reference. ;) There's a hyperlinked help file under Documentation - zMUD on zuggsoft.com
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Well, that's alphabetical. :P
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: well damn i've been going to contents all this while..heh thanks a lot
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: But it will have related functions in it all.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gercoh Tech: Anyone know anything about tintin++?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: my god, I haven't used that since the 90s
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gercoh Tech: Is that good or bad? lol
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gercoh Tech: This is probably a universal question actually. I'm trying to get a prompt working, and I wanted to know if using the same...uh...just same way you make one in Aardwolf will display it in tintin.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: an in-game prompt will show the same on any telnet client that can display color
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gercoh Tech: Is there a way I can see my prompt in the variables I set it up with?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gercoh Tech: If that makes sence...
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: config will show.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gercoh Tech: Does tintin auto save stuff like macros?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SSJ Kriccolo Tech: i remember the first time i played a mud, my unix kicked in and i kept trying to look by typing 'ls'
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: you can type ls on here :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: in zmud, how do i connect 2 rooms in different zones?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: With a link.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: how do i link them when theyr'e not on the same zone page?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: with a link
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Go to Room Properties. It's not that hard to figure out.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: hmm im fiddling with it, it doesn't auto link the rooms? u gotta do it both ways?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: Well I'd think some things aren't too hard to figure out, Charneus, but if that were actually true people would quit calling me to ask stupid blackberry/g1 questions and I'd be out of work 
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: ok got it thanks, hmm that's more effort than i was expecting..
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: a question for perl gurus:  i have a sub with "my $data" defined, and i want to copy the string the to a globally scoped "$title", but "$title = $data" fails, this is cause $title got a pointer to $data, and $data was deallocated when the sub ended, correct ?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: hmm
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone here used Checkpoint Media Encryption?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: take that as a no, then. Full Disk Encryption/
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Phish thinks most techies were probably up late looking at Pr0n and have yet to awaken.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: Or none of them use Checkpoint Media Encryption.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: heh, surprises me, a lot of the people here who I argue with deal with enterprise level stuff in their jobs
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Altannon Tech: Can someone point me in the directions of some scripting instructions ? im using Mush Client
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: Brian Gammon's site.  http://www.gammon.com.au/
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Altannon Tech: thanks
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Satara Tech: Does anyone know hw to activate the numlock key on an IBM computer
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: yeah any hooo - num and scroll lock - same key
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: use fn for that
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Satara Tech: yeah I know 
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: shift-numlock will turn numlock on and off
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also, you can call the tech support. they love calls like that
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Satara Tech: it does not work
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Satara Tech: I totally agree but I need it to finish the academy
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: you don't need numlock to finish academy?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teddybear Tech: does anyone have a spellup scrip that will work with cmud?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Right clicking on the MUD and selecting window options, attach command line usually works for me. :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SSJ Kriccolo Tech: is there a way to add Quest Time to the statmon or do i have to pull it from a prompt or score ?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: my script pulls it from the tick info
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SSJ Kriccolo Tech: That works too, i was just wondering if it was possible to add it to statmon, so i have one source of stats... oh well, tick info sounds like a plan, i've been pulling it from the prompt the rest of my stats i pull from statmon
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: statmon isn't user-modifiable
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I wish it were
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'd add group stats
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so that I can release my super neato group monitor script
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's so close to being able to turn off prompt
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SSJ Kriccolo Tech: its just nice having all the stats on one line, very lag friendly
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how many lines wouldn't affect lag...a line just means there's 1 or 2 extra "letters"...
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SSJ Kriccolo Tech: well if you were to parse the {score} tags you have a lot of extra characters to pattern match against
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why would you use score?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: some people like doing things the wrong way
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SSJ Kriccolo Tech: i don't use score, but it also has more stats than statmon, i'm just saying having statmon include more stats would be faster
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You boggle at the concept.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: in zmud if you save/lock your layout and close it will it reopen with the windows in the same spot?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: anyone used VB 2008 express before?  Or know if it supports classis ASP well?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: does anyone know what the font style is on the aardwolf mudclient pages?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: I could look it up..... do you not know how to find it in the source?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: at a glance, I'd say it's in www.aardmud.org/style.css
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: ok hangon.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: it just looks nice and junky for a bigmap font.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Niartu Tech: body,html,table,div {color : #000000
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Niartu Tech: body,html,table,div {color : #000000| font-family : Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif| font-size : 10pt|}
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Niartu Tech: the |'s are semicolons, but the mud client I'm writing doesn't have escaping for semi colons yet so I can't write them out
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Niartu Tech: so it's verdana if installed, if not it falls back to the next ones
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: hangon is that what is in the aardwolf client window captures?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Niartu Tech: I'm talking about the style.css crayze linked.. what font are you looking for?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Niartu Tech: the style.css is presumably what is used on the main page
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: the one used in the client.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Niartu Tech: ahhhhh one sec
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Niartu Tech: I think that is terminal
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: I'll try hangon.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: it is terminal you are right thanks!
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Niartu Tech: NP! :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: I didn't get down to T.. hehe
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umokos Tech: if im using MUSHClient, and i have chats echo off, is there away to stop blank lines from printing in the main window still?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SSJ Kriccolo Tech: have you tried compact ?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: anyone know why i might be getting the message {affon}91,360 when i cast a spell
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Dashiell Tech: Yes.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: anyway to get rid of it
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Dashiell Tech: type tags to see which tags are on
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Dashiell Tech: That one is spellup tags
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: ah i see now
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: anyone know a spellup script for CMUD
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: how do i turn off the big map from popping up every time i travel
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phish Tech: automap?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: idk it refers to it as bignmap
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phish Tech: no, the command automap
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: thank u
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: is there anyway to make the automap not pop up when i recall?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the automap or the bigmap?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the automap's designed to always be visible
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Altannon Tech: ive been wondering about that myself
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: idk...whats the distinction
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunsele Tech: umm...i was listening to the conversation about automap. i also wanted the bigmap not to show when i recall. i typed "automap" and now the small map window is frozen at the last place where i was when i entered that command. i typed "automap" again, but the smallmap is till frozen. what can i do? (using the aardwolf mush client)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: automap is a small thing, bigmap is huge
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Altannon Tech: its the big map that repops after recall
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for bigmap, type "bigmap auto off"
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Altannon Tech: sweet, thanks
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunsele Tech: ok. thanks
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: thank you abelinc
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: BTW, that command is right on the aardwolf web page that describes the bigmap plugin ;-)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Altannon Tech: well who would read a description when looking for help _ >p
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Altannon Tech: ^^
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: almost all questions we see asked about the mush plugins are answered on that page or the faq page...
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Altannon Tech: ?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyna Tech: anyone about who can give me some help on CMUD?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: just ask the question
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyna Tech: looking for a workable spellup script that I can cast on others too
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://davos.aardcharn.com
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: have you checked cmud/zmud forums? there are some cripts there
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Altannon Tech: are there also such sites with much client scripts ?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaYne Tech: hi, i need some help with zmud pls.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaYne Tech: can someone help me pls: my command line used to be in my main window. but now it appears as a separate tiny window
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaYne Tech: how do i put it back
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyranno Ruckus Tech: anyone have a suggestion on the best place to go to get my US iphone unlocked for vodaphone? I know you can do it yourself, but I'd rather have someone who is not an idiot do it....
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: thats a nice way to ask for advice...
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: in the UK, we would go to a shop that sells mobile phones and they would do it
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyranno Ruckus Tech: self-deprecating humor...
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyranno Ruckus Tech: I went right to a vodaphone shop and like 7 internet cafes and they all wouldn't do it
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyranno Ruckus Tech: of course, vodaphone wants you to buy one there
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyranno Ruckus Tech: for triple the us price
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Oh pick the youngest assistant and make sure the manager can't hear
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: ask him if he/she knows where to go
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyranno Ruckus Tech: that's not a bad idea....
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyranno Ruckus Tech: thanks, man
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone here use Tasbook?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what language is the script using? lua?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: outputting the number (As a string) '"jade ".. count' = jade 27
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: lua
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wait, the count = "jade 27"?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: sec lemme find the thing
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you want the count to just be the 27
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: ive got it dumping a table table.foreach (ArrayList ("potionstock"), print)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: info is loaded into array (think hash from perl) but values in table can only be string
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sekhen Tech: any bash scripters here ?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try using tonumber()
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: k sec
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone here used Tas Books?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: sweet :) got my potion stock list able to decrement on use now ^_^
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gratz imalish :-)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: I had that, like, years ago
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: shush starling
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and that helps everyone out a lot, starling :P
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Officer Starling giggles at you.  Hope it's not contagious! 
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: at least mine is publicly available :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: any suggestions on a seperate window (mush of course) that targets can be printed to (cp , gq, q)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: there is a quest and cp one in the mushclient forums
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: the cp targ tracker that mush comes with blocks part of my world (main) window and id rather have it in differnent one with legible font :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just change the font & window properties
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it's functional other than display properties, easy enough to change
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: tried that .. sadly if i make the font bigger it makes the blockage bigger
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: change the font itself, not just size
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bigger font = bigger blockage is universal...another script won't be any better :P
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: but putting it in a diffent window (like the map and spellup is) would allow me to move it out of the way or put it behind
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, that one's using a section of the main window?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: yeah
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you should be able to go into the plugin and change that
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Anyone know how to use gpm in xterm?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: In MushClient, how do you count the time something takes to complete?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: how does one use the database plugin for mushclient?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: yeah trying to write a plugin for this crap when im not even fully comfortable botching together triggers is gonna be next to impossible
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what are you trying to do, imalish?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: um still trying to figure out how to get my cp targs and gq targs listed in a seperate world window much like the spellup and stats are
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ok, then don't write a plugin, modify the plugin you're already using
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: look for where it sends the info to a miniwindow
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and send it to a fake world window instead
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: not even sure where to start making changes
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: where did you get that plugin?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: you mean the cp tracker that comes with mush ?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: i think it came with it anyhow
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: none comes with the aard download
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: probably got it from the mush site then
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: i would like to create a database for my look
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: damn it mis 
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: i mean i want to create a database for my eq
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ok, i found the campaign tracker I'm betting you're using...http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=8815
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: looks likeit
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: wats the best way to do that
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd need to have triggers to capture the attributes/stats of items as you identify them
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: those should be tagified too
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ozzy has a script that hooks into iwuvaard's database and lets you look stuff up
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: sounds like a start
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ariau, check out http://www.conradshome.com/aardwolf/zmud/eq_db.php as well as http://www.conradshome.com/iwuvzmud/
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: ty
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: these scripts used with zmud eh
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what client are you using?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: mush
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ok, check out http://www.gammon.com.au/mushclient/plugins/, use ctrl-f to search, type in database
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Niartu Tech: I have a spanish version of ms office installed on my computer (because I didn't have time to find the english version and was on a deadline for something I needed word for).... I'm trying to do a spreadsheet right now, but SUM isn't working.. I'm guessing it's something else in spanish?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Did you check out the function listing?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: http://babelfish.altavista.com ?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Niartu Tech: I don't speak spanish, I don't know how to find it... alt+f doesn't even bring up the file menu
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Niartu Tech: and it's not SUMA
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Niartu Tech: i'm essentially looking for someone with knowledge of excel in spanish =p
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: The pictures don't change in Spanish :P
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You gasp as you realize what she did.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: There's a little pic next to the function bar, that if you click it, will give you a list of functions
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: The Spanish for "to add" is "sumar", so it should be SUM, but they may have it done differently
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Niartu Tech: function bar?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arkadian Tech: have you tried hitting the autosum key? it looks like an E
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Niartu Tech: oh I found it.. apparently it is still SUM... ugh weird
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: the sigma :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Niartu Tech: =SUM(B2:B45) comes back with "#NOME?"
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Niartu Tech: can it n ot take blank cells?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: It means you've got a string value in there
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: it can - what is in those cells? somethings not all numbers
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Same as #NAME in the English version
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon nods at Remind Hargreaves.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arkadian Tech: cast sense
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Niartu Tech: nope.. I definitely don't, I just double checked by switching them all to formatted as numbers rather than general
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Try making the sum cell wider.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Niartu Tech: the numbers 200, 5, 20, and about 20 blank cells
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Niartu Tech: I tried that =(
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: And double-check that there aren't spaces in the blank cells.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arkadian Tech: make sure you're calling the right cells
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Formatting something as number doesn't do anything if it's text :P
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Niartu Tech: yeah I just pressed delete on all of the cells that aren't explicitely numbers
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Niartu Tech: and it still says #NOME
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Niartu Tech: so no spaces etc..
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Niartu Tech: this is a brand new spreadsheet with hardly anything in it..
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harrold Tech: try the sum on a much smaller range first, that is completely populated, to see if it even works that way
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: download open office and do all this in english and save learning spanish for another day?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Niartu Tech: even just SUM(B2:B3) returns #NOME
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Niartu Tech: openoffice is a pile of clunk, FatesDagger
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or, now that you're past the Word deadline, go get the English MS Office
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon seems to think you have the right idea.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arkadian Tech: try gnumeric?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Niartu nods at you in agreement. 
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Niartu Tech: plus open office doesn't interpret word documents properly that have more than one column on a page, but not all pages
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: #NOME means "nombre" - which is the same as #NAME in English. So... you're probably going to have the same problems with the English version :P
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arkadian Tech: or just try it in google docs first?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: Nar how is working in another language where he can't figure out the error msgs helping the process, open office would at least tell him hey you can't add those columns due to feild type mismatch or something.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Niartu Tech: well, if this weren't supposed to be a simple thing, then I'd have installed the english version..
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Niartu Tech: google docs is actually a great idea, thanks... I'm going to head there, lol. and I need to access this spreadsheet from a friend's house, so I don't know why I didn't think of that first
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hehe, you could've just added the numbers on paper by now ;-)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Niartu hugs Arkadian.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Niartu Tech: nah it's a balance sheet that I'm going to be updating over the next 2 months
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Is there a good way to spark a programming interest in a kid?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, and you absolutely should not attempt
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Dashiell Tech: Tell them that programming is way cooler than smoking
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik boggles at you. 
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: i've heard great things about alice, never used it myself
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: but a logic puzzle combination on the candy jar.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: put..
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sheesh, worse than one of those "my son WILL play football" dads
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Dashiell Tech: hahahahahhahahhahahhahaha razor wins
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon looks at Razor and goes "Heh."
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Agent Dashiell peers at you intently. 
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: tough one there has to be some sort of predesposition to logic or computers
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Dashiell Tech: spark an interest does not mean force them to do it.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: l
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Dashiell Tech: m
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: o
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Dashiell Tech: p
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as with anything, just give opportunity
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Dashiell Tech: Imalish accidentally the whole alphabet.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if he's interested, he's interested
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: you have to exposed to something to know if you have an interest in it.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: that's why I firmly believe in flashing all hot chicks.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ilidar falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Icecool laughs out loud at Razor.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik snickers softly.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Imalish laughs out loud.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Dashiell Tech: And they're all like "No thanks, I don't smoke"
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: get the kid onto Aard, then start him scripting for aard :-)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: I learned assembly language (Z80) on the sinclair spectrum to cheat at games.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have him write your bot for you
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: who says honesty pays?!
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: i was plopped down infront of an old pos pc with qbasic
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I had a zx80
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: I did the same thing on a tandy 1000hx and then I promptly forgot all that I learned about assembly (I learned just enough to bypass things such as code wheels)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: Actually, if he ends up liking the game, that would work.  It got me interested in scripting, although I never did get any good at programming.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Niartu Tech: at age 7 I watched my dad get a game running on a TRS-80... he gave me and my brother that TRS-80 when I was 9 for going to the dentist :p lol....... when you turn them on, you have to type in BASIC code
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: back before you could just download the crack if you happened to lose the manual or code wheel etc
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Dashiell Tech: ahh, basic
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Dashiell Tech: That's fun.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Dashiell Tech: I still remember a small amount of it.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: anything out there uses the Z80 lasnguage anymore, or was that wasted effort
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: actually before that I guess I learned some programming when you had to type in game listings from magazines before you could play them, they invariably had at least one bug.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Honestly, Abelinc breaks out the cassette player to load the game
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: Maybe a refrigerator timer or something, xyliz
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: yeah I typed in thousands of lines out of the back of magazines back in the 80s
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: xyliz, you're confusing learning particular syntax with learning how to get things done
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: never a wasted effort
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: I really hated the ones that you had to type in 10 pages of nothing but hex code
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: make one typo and no workie, and almost impossible to find your typo
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Dashiell Tech: My kids are going to learn basic as their first language
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: at least let them start with C
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Dashiell Tech: They'll be running around yelling "10 print Daddy! 20 print Daddy! 30 print May I have some candy? 40 input x"
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: C is a better language than Basic, and more useful and more standard
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: yes but harder to learn syntax
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: But harder to learn
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: "C" really isn't useful for that much in terms of career.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and doesn't teach you flow
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: better to learn visual basic
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: as a starting point for other languages.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: If they'd taught me C instead of Algebra in high school I'd ahve been much more successful... I can do the exact same thing in C easily that I would never have understood as Algebra
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not true, aelf...you can't do the exact same thing without understanding what you're doing
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the Basic without those crappy line numbers is okay
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: actually.... I can express algebraic formulas easier in C than in algebra when I understand both... because C makes you break it down into more logical steps
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: i dont know why you say c cant teach you flow
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can express the formulas...but you wouldn't understand the C without knowing what is being asked and what is meant
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it doesn't inherently teach flow, not that it can't
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hail! Ceasar Tech: honestly, I learned more in my first month on the job than I did in school
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what is this 'flow' you speak of
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xyliz is covered in blood! PaperTiger Panzer jumps on his back and flaps her arms!
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: What do you mean by 'flow'?  Apologies for not knowing, but programming interests me.  It's just a matter of finding a language I can get the hang of.  C didn't compute.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: laying out what you want to do, and actually DOING IT in basic is pretty much the same...it "makes sense"
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: 10 goto 20 .... 20 gosub 30.... 30 goto 10... 40 return
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: what's not good about that?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: Okay, that's what I thought.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: and C can be that simple as well
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Dashiell Tech: That's a DIE.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hail! Ceasar Tech: hey!  No infinite loops!
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: "C" is simply more low level than most people ever need.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not really, imalish
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: it is for me :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you have no clue what's being discussed
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: i did basic in Qbasic for 10 years learing then i found C and was able to go much farther
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: however, dumping a newbie into the world of vis basic with all the windows API knowledge that is needed is not a good idea either
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Aelfwynne, that Basic pgm above is going to blow the stack
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: "C" is what you use when you want 400 sockets connected to an affordable server rather than an IBM mainframe.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you think that someone's actually talking about your understanding or your 1337 h4x skillz
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: I'm good at writing my own zmud scripts.  Granted, I use an out-dated version, but if I read the help and fiddle around a bit, chances are that if I want it, I can write it.  What would be a good 'real' language to look at, then?  Visual basic?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: xyliz: that's exactly my point 
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: no i dont im talking about the differences in C and basic langauges :P
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: Main interest being that if I can find a language that I can use in MUSH, I'd be able to switch to MUSH without losing all my stuff.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nobody's saying that C isn't a better language for doing things
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: that's the problem with goto and gosub really .. because if you place 500 lines of code between each of those, it's not so obvious
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the question was NOT about what is better to use for everyday projects
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Dashiell Tech: what does gosub do?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: lua is the preferred language for mush.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the question was regarding getting a child into programming from scratch
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: so go convert a goal or two for practice.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: it's basically an early version of a function call that returns back to where it was called from... basically what C does all the time
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: gosub lets you jump to subroutine then return
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: but a goto jumps out of it
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not "what can a programmer do in his head after 10 hears of programming"
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Dashiell Tech: ah
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: years*
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: hours
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: I know nothing of lua, though.  Would converting a goal clue me in?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: well I guess our point is that basic doesn't really do anything except teach things that will need to be unlearned later
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: this I know as someone whose first programming language WAS basic on a Vic-20
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they don't need to be unlearned in the least
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it teaches things that can lay the foundation for decent coding practices
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: picking up C as a first language would be alot harder than basic .. granted... but most of that difficulty is syntax and learing common library calls
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Lua, is that a hawaiian eatfest
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: oh yeah... I had no idea even the CONCEPT of how to write code without goto/gosub... I always wondered "where's the flow?"
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: commodore basic causes brain cancer
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: it seemed random without them
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and in simply laying out what the heck you're doing
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: though I do miss all the poking and peeking
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: heh poke/peek and crash the pc :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: how old is the child btw?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: how about teach javascript as a starting point then?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: 14 (not mine! :p)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: god no
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik shudders in disgust at Aelfwyne!
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: perhaps get them interested in a blog or facebook and writing an app for it.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: Okay I'll go crawl back under the rock hehe
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: something they can share with their friends.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: sadly java is more convoluted than C and it was supposed to make oop easier
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: so in that case, start with php.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: didn't say java... javaSCRIPT... or actually as razor has suggested PHP is a great idea
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: or even python or ruby
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: php prolly better
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fortran ftw
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: starting with php wouldnt be bad but theres a problem of getting results from it 
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik noddles his head in agreement.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: some universities still teach fortran to their engineers
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: absolutely
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: fortran as far as I can tell is just a souped up BASIC
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: for php you need either a cli compiler or webserver to provide results
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neleus Tech: physics and science still has a strong fortran following
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: you can run that on your windows box though for testing
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: with a lot better library of standard routines
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: always start structured
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neleus Tech: in the big supercomputers you find a lot of fortran programs
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: ive wanted to check out fortran and cobol
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: I never put it live, had to rewrite it.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: mis
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: APL never caught on - somethiung about the lack of a special keyboard
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: apl actually caught on quite well where it was supposed to
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: buy him an android phone and install the android dev kit on his PC, and make him work for dinner!
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a highly-specialized language
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: some rather large multi-billion-dollar corporations run APL
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: some rather large multi-billion dollar corporations run COBOL too
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're going to be doing advanced arrays, it's hard to beat apl
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: doesn't mean it is going anywhere :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I guess I'd have to disagree with your definition of going anywhere...plenty of people made plenty of money in the very recent past programming in both languages :P
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: apl is best if you're doing linear algebra
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but it's not gonna be used to make a game
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: maybe true, but I don't think it would be the best thing to specialize in for a teen's budding career
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: because even if useful, it is niche. 
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope, I never suggested it
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what about C++ as a starter language
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: okay I suppose if you want to emphasize object orientation.... I honestly think C is much easier to swallow to start and move onto object oriented concepts later
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: same problems as with C as a starter language
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: but I'm old-fashioned that way
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: lots of difficulty getting syntax right and learning the basic library calls
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: I think much more procedurally than object orientedly... but again, that's a relic of having learned non-object languages such as basic to start
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: functions do things, not objects, in my mind
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: functions act, objects react
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: objects are data and have things done to them. Objects are like children - they should be seen and not heard.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: i think its best to learn procedural language first and build up to 'object's 
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: when your programming becomes complex enuf that you need inherited values and actions then you can build them yourself to learn the mechanics of the process then step into prebuilt objects used in more heavy languages like c++ and java
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: I can see that but I don't think it's the best place to *start*
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: but thats just my opinion based on learning the hows and whys of the process not jsut the whats and whens
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: no to start logic 
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: because often people spend more time building the objects than actually getting work done... thus insane memory and cpu requirements for a simple task
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: offhand, does anyone know what the word size of a 386 microprocessor is?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neleus Tech: 32 bit sparhawk
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: thanks :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luocong Tech: In Zmud,We could use #wa 1000 to wait 1 second, how can I wait 1 sec in MUSH Client?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: The DoAfter method might be what you need.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Docs at http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/function.php?name=DoAfter
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: You can also use coroutines in Lua to do a lot of pause stuff... you'd have to know Lua for that though
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunsele Tech: i am using the Aard mushclient. i usually play with the regular text screen, the map, and the chat window all visible. i expanded the regular text window, and i can't figure out how to reduce its size...any suggestions?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: does anyone know of a way to bypass work portals/firewalls to play aard?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Did you click maximize, Gunsele?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: can you drag it to resize?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Torunkes, have you tried the other two ports? (in help port)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gunsele, try typing "aardinit" or "initaard"
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunsele Tech: yeah, and now the icon is gone, so i can only toggle between chat,map,text, etc
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: i tried em all. I havent tried the mccp 127.0.0.1 addy tho
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that won't help, torunkes
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: but that is on port 4010 which i dont think is open
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that address means "my own computer"
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunsele Tech: that worked..thanks :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's for when you're running a second program on your computer that your client connects to
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which in turn connects to aard on one of its normal ports
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: so mccp client prolly wont work either great
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: perhaps your employers would prefer that you don't play games while they're paying you
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: im thinking about the site logmein.com tho
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: correct, mccp wouldn't have any bearing on the issue
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: eh thats a good possibility, i think logmein is also blocked as a site, i'd like to remote desktop back to my home computer tho
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: so, i guess unless i have a server sitting at home, i guess im out of luck
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikuson Hakugen Tech: how do i get rid of the {chan ch=*****} thing?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you want to get rid of that and the {stats} thing all at once, type "tags off"
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: have you tried tags off
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikuson Hakugen Tech: ok... thanx all
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Poza Tech: hello
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Poza Tech: can someone help me?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apathy Tech: What's up?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Poza Tech: I need help with the MUSHclient
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apathy Tech: What problem are you having?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Poza Tech: when i try to make an allias
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Are you on Windows Vista, Poza?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Poza Tech: it says i cant access Aardwolf.MCL
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Poza Tech: yes
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: You need to run MUSHclient as an admistrator or install it in a directory other than Program Files.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Poza Tech: ok sweet
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Poza Tech: Justme said you were the wiz Rathik
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik blushes.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Poza Tech: brb
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Poza Tech: Rathik you still there?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Poza Tech: can I make 1 allias perform 2 actions?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Poza Tech: like get out a potion from a bag then drink it
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, poza
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game -> configure -> aliases
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Poza Tech: do you know the sytax?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: click add, type in the top thin part what you want to type to do it
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Yes, Poza
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Poza Tech: sybtax
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Just press enter, and put your second action below the first
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the large part below that, type "g potion bag", then hit enter to go to the next line, and "quaff potion"
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Poza Tech: sweet, ya'll rockzor
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redreaver Tech: is there any zmud function that counts the number of characters in a string?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Length.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Rather, %len.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redreaver Tech: ah, thanks.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It counts spaces, too.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkish Tech: how big of an upgrade is ddr2 over ddr and ddr3 over ddr
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: dont believe the hype
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkish Tech: well i wanted to reuse my old ram but i cant find a board that uses ddr anymore
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkish Tech: are the kentsfield q6600 quads worth the money?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: depends on what you're upgrading from. they're not bad.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkish Tech: gunna be my first intel cpu since my old 166
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkish Tech: from an athlong xp 5500
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkish Tech: from an athlong xp 5500+x2
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: are you runnin xp on a quad core ?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: it would be faster :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkish Tech: ill prolly put vista on my pc since ima be getting 4g of ram
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: good cause xp only supports 2 cpu's, lol
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkish Tech: hehe i know
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkish Tech: id love to use ubuntu but i dont wanna deal with the bans you get every once in a while from steam
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: i had ppl try to lord thier quas core xp box over my dual cor xp box.... lol crashed and burned
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkish Tech: heh
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwyne Tech: if you're using pro I think you can get quad working... not like I've tried though
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkish Tech: well right now my old mobo went out on me and my backup is bottlenecking everything heh
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Lisp question. I've got: (define (pow y nth) (cond ((> nth 0) (* y (pow y (- nth 1)))) ((< nth 0) (/ 1.0 (* y (pow y (+ nth 1))))) (else 1)))
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: And when I do: (pow 2 -2) it returns 1 instead of .25
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Any ideas?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kad Tech: /flee lisp
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mauler Tech: Is anyone pretty familiar with spelltags?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: a little
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mauler Tech: How would I allow spellup to cast "just" learned spells? I believe theres a way, Im just a bit confused as to how to set it up.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: spellup 1 210 50 100
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: that casts all spells you know between 50% and 100% proficiency
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: it's something you must do in your client, I keep a variable list and check against that
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: I manually update the list every now and again
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gildar Tech: perhaps a spell that captures the output from spells learned?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gildar Tech: Sorry, spell means trigger :)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: try help spellup
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gildar Tech: perhaps a spell that captures the spells from spells learned that are < 100%
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: you could trigger on the spells command but I found that a pain to program,it was easier to cut and paste the list
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: omg just type  spellup 1 210 1 50
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: that will give you the list
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: once you have the list I assume you want to cast those spells so as to learn them
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: why do you need to mess around wasting time gathering lists with script etc....
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: it's fun
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: if you are trying to train spells up with out practices just alias x spellup 1 210 1 50
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: cool I learned something
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: then macro x to then F4 key
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: then put a wieght on the F4 key and go have a smoke
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: sweet
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: you might want to make sure you have plenty of mana before you put the weight on
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: really it's a waste of time, lol, just prac the spell
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: that's new spellup stuff, pretty cool
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: save the pracs for trains
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: any MS Access guru's on?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: guess it's a bit early as yet
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone use tas books, or ms access?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: any MS Access-capable people here?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: i do a little MS asses
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: access
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: need to know how you make a form that has elements that go into two different tables
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phish Tech: ...
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: Idon't know I'd try a macro from a post button
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: wouldn't say that's best practice thou
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: hmmm, i guess a macro would do it, would need two, one to populate the secondary table's fields in the form, and one to populate the secondary table FROM the form on completion
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the example is an invoice record, you have one table for the invoice record itself, and a table for each item/price pair on the invoice on a one to many relationship
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: It's not a problem I've solved in the past, so I'd fumble around for a solution
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seregil Tech: there is no way to catch virus' from Aardwolf, right?  My hubby says its coming from Aard and I told him it wasn't.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phish Tech: only if you have cybersex..?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: I don't think cybersex gives your pc stds
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Dashiell Tech: Aardwolf does not have a virus included.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: that costs extra
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seregil Tech: that's probably exaclty what it is.  I hope not but I divorced my ex for porn and he was sorta 
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seregil Tech: having cybersex
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phish Tech: youd be the first to get a virus from connecting to aard :P
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: but really - if he's telling you the virus came from Aardwolf, start looking at what he does on the PC
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phish Tech: check internet history, cookies.. ect
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: check the internet history for porn :p
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phish Tech: probably just some pr0n, no biggie
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: Of course it's possible that he has good intentions and just doesn't have a clue what he's talking about, my relatives have a habit of doing that
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: She's already said pr0n is a biggie
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seregil Tech: that's what I thought.  Lasher doesnt' seem like the type to let something ilke that happen.  Plus, I've been playing AArd since 1997 w/ no problems
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seregil Tech: don't worry, I have software that does it for me.  Remember I had the ex...I didn't delete that little goodie.  Porn in itself is not really a problem it's reacting to the porn in an inappropriate way with two toddlers in the house and a door that don't lock
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Ah as in discretion is the better part of valor?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: it could of been anything simple like a dodgie ad on a well known website
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: You can get stuff from emails that look okay
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Secretary Timeghost Tech: not to forget, there's been a very recent nasty Winblows exploit again
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seregil Tech: and a little hurtful sometimes.  I weighed 115 lbs..
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seregil Tech: so I check what the new hubbie is doing too.  So far he's been good.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phish Tech: or so you think...
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Phish stares at the sky.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seregil Tech: but no more of my soap opera.  I hurt my back yesterday and I'm on pain killers so I want to talk to everyone.  I'll probably get no channeled today.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Oh you're on chatalot opiates?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arkadian Tech: if only getting painkillers without the pain wasn't so... illegal
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: shouldnt be doing kinky things on webcam seregil :p
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seregil Tech: Phish I don't think so because I have software that always caught my ex.  If there's a way around it I don't think new hubbie would find it because I'm the computer person in the house.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phish Tech: firefox has an auto-clear history upon exit option :P
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harrold Tech: and the trust part enters into this scheme at what point? ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phish Tech: wth is trust?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harrold Tech: it's a fantasy thing...but I thought it might fit in a made-up world like a mud.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phish Tech: Marriage is about having a women completely subserviant to you, doing everything you need. and when she doesnt you beat her and put her in the basement for two days. simple fact.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Nah with a new partner, I try my best to give them trust, I don't believe in crap about earning trust. You earn my distrust.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arkadian Tech: I think that's the official definition of marriage in Ye Olde Puritan Dictionary
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: When you have that, then you get to work hard to reearn my trust
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seregil Tech: without getting into details, I can never be too carful.  I have 3 young children and I trust very few people where they're concerned.  My little boy is 10 and he muds on here.  I sit near him so I can see if there's tells coming in or anything
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seregil Tech: but thanks everyone...I'm probably going to talk to some other channel now...hope you don't have all the same ones I do
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harrold Tech: same painkillers?
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seregil Tech: channels...now if we were all on painkillers, imagine what a time we would have!
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arkadian Tech: "painkiller channel is now ON"
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Aard on the happy candies, what fun
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: imagine the tells to your son :(
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seregil Tech: man, and what if someone had bad nerves and were on nerve pills... and add a few drunks
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seregil Tech: NO one knows who my son is to send him tells.  He's not on right now anyway.
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mauler Tech: hey dad, whats up
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mauler Tech: just kidding 
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: pay attention that's his mom
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seregil Tech: thank you!
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mauler Tech: sorry, mom i mean :P
T1/r4/2009-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phish Tech: Epic Failure!
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Blackdragon Tech: I tried setting a trigger for aards mush client, for an idle timmer, but it didnt work, could anyone spend a few min with me too walk me thru in how too do that properly, i haven't a clue on what i'm doing.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Blackdragon Tech: Anyone know aards much client at all? I'm trying too set up an afk idle timer, but i havent a clue on what too do.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Anyone know of any reason a chat client (Ventrilo) cannot receive a PTT key such as CTRL while MUSHClient window is active?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horiare Tech: anyone help me with a question about mushclient?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: Anyone here have a fair deal of experience with Ubuntu on a laptop, and the problems that most laptops have with that?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: my laptop has no problems with ubuntu
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: older laptops have video driver issues at times
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: and i had to upgrade bios on one of my laptops
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: I have an older Acer Aspire 1680.  Ubuntu installed and everything worked out of the box, for the most part.  I have to have acpi=off to do anything or it freezes about 2 seconds after boot.  The other problem is my wireless kill switch keeps losing it's keycodes or whatever.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: The wireless is being a pain, my wife let the battery die when it was on and working and now my acerhk (acer hotkeys, which never actually installed right) won't fix it anymore.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: This is pissing me off. My DTV antenna is showing NO signal strength, no matter WHERE I put it. :\
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: I think it's because God hates you.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You hate me, Felt? I'm so flattered! *inno*
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Heh... looking at antennaweb.org, it says my antenna should be pointing at 180 degrees (south) in order to get the best reception. That's just lovely because my bedroom is on the north side.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Dashiell Tech: Put it on the roof.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I would except I don't have a ladder to get up there and my antenna doesn't stretch that far.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: how can i make a script check to see if there is something in a var or DB before it continues the script?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tweeke Tech: using zmud i assume?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: ya
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tweeke Tech: you could try #IF ar
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tweeke Tech: var
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tweeke Tech: (at)var lol
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: is the var a stringlist or a record variable?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Depends on what you're talking about.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: If you want it to compare it to a list, do #IF %ismember(item, @stringlist) {Do this}
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Otherwise, to see if the variable is populated at all, use #IF @var.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: If you want to check for a NOT, then put ! before the @var or before the %ismember.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: anyone know a way to snag part of the statmon from the stat plugin ?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use the variables it sets
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: ? 
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: suggestion on where to find those variable s?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: open up the plugin...it reads statmon and sets the values to variables
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I can post my regex to you, if you think that would help you Imalish
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the regexp is already done, rath
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Yeah, I know. It's in my clipboard.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you shouldn't have multiple triggers accessing statmon
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I would agree with that :)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, rathik. it's already loaded on imalish's computers
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Ah, okay. I think I missed part of the discussion, sorry. :)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they've already got a stats script loaded, just want access to the statmon data in something else they're using
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I'm missing most of the discussion, of course, but if this MUSHclient by chance, Nick Gammon already has a nice plugin to grab statmon data and a way make it available to other scripts/plugins.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you're looking at the stats plugin, the variables should be the "stats.<something>"
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: And know him, good docs :)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: yeah i found it :)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: knowing*
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rath, that plugin ships with the mush, that's what we're talking about
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Okay, I'll go to the store before I get any more behind here then :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You snicker softly.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: so what im trying to do now is snag the current target (while fighting) and save it to variable lasttarg. to be checked against my list of cp targs when i get the message on cp mob kill
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: so it can update the list of targets remaining as the targets are killed instead of having to do the cp c/i commands
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: reduce traffic and make the process transparent... just move on to next target on list
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavelost Tech: OMG! I am so sick and tired of this...why can't i press A while reading a note to see the whole thing...
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phish Tech: scroll 0
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Scroll 0 fixes that problem for you.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavelost Tech: how do i fix this?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Fix what?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: We just told you.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavelost Tech: i did and now i can't go back and read the note :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Yes you can. Note read again.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavelost Tech: it won't let me...
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It won't let you read the note again?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: type in note read again
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I use note read last
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: same thing i think?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavelost Tech: ok...it wouldn't let me note read 839...
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Maybe because you're either in the wrong forum or that note no longer exists.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavelost Tech: it is the announcements...
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Are you on board 1 still?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavelost Tech: yep :)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: it auto-changes board when you read the last note
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: No it doesn't.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It autochanges the board if you note read on a board that has no more notes.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavelost Tech: ok...scratch that...i can read 837 and 839 but not 838
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: oh, my bad.  you're right
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Not sure why you can't read note 838. I'm able to read it.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavelost Tech: nevermind...it is letting me now...
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: anyone... FTA?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phish Tech: f' the a?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: (free satt tv)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: FTA = free to all.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phish Tech: oh, nah, was excited for a sec :(
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: What about? :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: was curious how large an aard pop takes advantage of it
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: i dropped about 5 bills on it over a year ago, been getting free ppv/premium/basic since roughly halloween '07
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Does anyone have any ideas on why I would suddenly be getting high lag on my wifi?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: are you the only one on it?  are you sure?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: microwave
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: time to reboot?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: No microwave, and I've rebooted it ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Neighbor's microwave
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: laptop or desktop?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: has anyone tried Firefox 3.1 beta yet?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Ilidar: it's password protected on WPA2, so I assume not
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I can check in the router
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: It's a laptop, Torunkes
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neleus Tech: 2.4Ghz phones knock it out
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Oladon: this has been happening for 3 or 4 days now, constantly.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: ya may want to move the router away from cell phone bases, mine is right on top of the router =(
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Neighbor's been having microwave parties
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I don't have a cordless phone anymore, so I don't think that's it.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: It's also not restricted to this laptop... the wifi here is nearly unusable on another laptop
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: cable wiring in the walls getting pinched?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Is it just high ping times, or is it low bandwidth too?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: It's wifi, no cables to pinch
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I have another computer wired into the router, and it's fast/normal.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: i understand it's wifi, but what is your router using to get the connection?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I have another computer wired into the router, and it's fast/normal.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: wow i think i just got pwn'd. =I
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Leinei: hmm, pings are interesting
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Pings on the wifi are 1779ms, 295ms, 1075ms, 133ms
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Pings on the wired are all ~100ms
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Sorry, Torunkes, I didn't mean to be rude.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: no worries, just trying to help you find a resolution, at least you've isolated where it bottlenecks.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: does anyone have an example of a gq that makes you find an item ? specifically looking for regexp
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Any more ideas on the wifi problems anyone? :(
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: Know if you're using WEP or WPA encryption?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: WPA2
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: b/g restricted ?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: I've heard WPA doesn't bode well with a lot of router firmwares, particularly DD-WRT.  Causing problems similar to that.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I think I allow g and n only from the router, and the laptop is using n
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik checks.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, n doesn't exist, so may want to restrict it to things that have actually been ratified
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: ?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: n does exist but not used commonly yet :(
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Fair enough, I'll give it a try
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pre-n exists
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: It's not an official standard though
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: ah well thats what i was seeing then :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: kinda hard to build and testout triggers for gqs when they are so far btwn and im so busy while on them
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use logs
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iceman Tech: set a trigger to echo the messages?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: been doing that
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: log everything you see, play back those logs to test the trigs
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: hmmm ... have to look into that
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: CONGRATULATIONS! You were the first to complete this quest!
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Congratulations, that was one of the GLOBAL QUEST mobs!
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: yeah got the one for mobs ... has to be at beginning of line tho :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: CONGRATULATIONS! Your bot was the first to complete this quest!
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, was giving you message, not trying to trip up :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: heh :)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: but making sure it works is the tough part 
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: shouldn't be, clients have a "test trig" function
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkish Tech: not another gq bot.....
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: no not bot just things like highlights
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Turkish goes, "SUUUUUUUURE...."
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for highlights, take a campaign
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: surprisingly hard to create a dynamic highlights
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkish Tech: i have afully function highlighter script if you want sir
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: yeah most of it so far is just slightly modified cp codes
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: id be interested in checking it out :)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: turkish, which client?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkish Tech: z/cmud
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkish Tech: does cps and gq highlights
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: i could still see the regexp and logic to see how mine compares
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Interesting, I've had this laptop for months, and I was on n for months without an issue. I force the router to g, and it's now working good again
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkish Tech: its like 3 triggers and a coupla vars
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: ^_^
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Thanks all :)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, do a firmware/driver update on the router or the NIC?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: You know, there /might/ have been a NIC driver update through Windows Update, now that I think about it.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: yeah windows updates blow
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I guess I can check the history
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phish Tech: goes along with windows blowing
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: abe suggestions on how to echo 20+ lines to client to check reading trigs ?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Ooh, Intel Driver for Wireless WiFi - 12/29/2008 :)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: #20 {#SAY "Test"}
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkish Tech: hehe
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: this is mush, right?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: yeah
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus smirks.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: No clue, then.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: You can use ctrl+shift+F12 in MUSHclient
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go togame -> test trigger
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you cannot just paste the 20 lines tho...
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the bottom-right corner tells you to use ctrl-enter for a line break
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkish Tech: #10 {meow=%eval(eow+1);#echo eow}
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkish Tech: #10 {meow=%eval(@meow+1);#echo @meow}
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: You can paste, Abe
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so paste the first line, hit ctrl-enter, paste the next line, etc
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ok, listen to rath, he actually uses it :-)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: ctrl+shift+f12 seems to be helping
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: should the number of '-
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: sry should the number of dashes used in gq i and cp i vary ?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: ... still needs a bit of tweaking but seemed to work ok for most part
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flumpy Tech: anyone know any java?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flumpy Tech: or groovy?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flumpy Tech: i need help writing a mud engine if anyone's interested (note: i am not advertising another mud here :)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Koutarou Katsura Tech: hi, i'm using the gainreport script and i'm getting something like this :Katsura: '%1: %1 %1: 0 | %1 %1: 0/0 | %1: 0.00 | %1 %1: 0 | %1: 0/0 | %1: 0.00 | %1: 0 | %1 %1: 0 | %1: 0%1 | %1: 0.'
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Koutarou Katsura Tech: any idea how to fix the %1 issue?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: time to play a game of "Clear some hard drive space roulette"
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Dashiell Tech: deltree C;\
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Agent Dashiell . o O ( hmm. )
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: format /y c:\
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: just get rid of the pr0n  ... :)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: rm -rf /
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no porn on here
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: #rm*
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus goes to Tigernuts, "SUUUUUUUURE...."
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: i'm ashamed of you tnuts
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Believe it or not there are computers out there - usually at work - that don't have porn on
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Mine has no porn on it. :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: officially .... 
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: But those it's remove all the spreadsheets, powerpoints etc
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: I never had porn on my desktop pc or laptop - the server was in the attic
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: there we go, 5gb found so far
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: that's 1 pirate dvd iso
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nogs, next'll be to ship some old tv and movie stuff onto dvd, that'll save some more
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Have a hunt for unlicensed software that'll probably remove a few gig
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nothing unlicensed on here
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Hmm. Anyone know of a way to #LOOP through an actual database and delete record keys in z/CMUD?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humpton Tech: #LOOPDB
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Hmmm... #LOOPDB myeq {#DBDELETE %i}... Hmmm.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Nope, doesn't work.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus sits down and thinks deeply. 
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humpton Tech: i think there's a #DELKEY that might be useful
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Right, but I have to have the key number, too.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humpton Tech: depending on how your DB is set up
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Rather, in this case, the rec number.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humpton Tech: when you're in a #LOOPDB you can use %val to help find out stuff
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Not for the actual database. I'm not talking about a variable database.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: #FORALL %query() {#DBDELETE %i} works for me
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Palladius Tech: http://www.wimp.com/funidea/
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Hmm... didn't work either, Yhogurk. :\
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 9gb freed up, with another 4gb to copy to dvd, that'll do for today, gives me 25gb free out of 150
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: greyish strip down one side of my printout - toner or drum, you think?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: drum
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: if you can look at the drum you shouldbe able to seeit
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: just keep it out of bright light
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 70 quid + tax trade price on vista hb, ffs, what is it coming to?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: wtf
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: you can get the oem version for that, surely
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that is the oem version
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: err, for less than that, even
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: that's crazy
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: weakness of the pound, 6 months ago the same thing was 55+tax
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: did price ever go down when sterling was strong?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: sucky
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: lol no
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's a bit bizarre when the OS is the second-most expensive coponent in the entire pc
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: (for a bog standard office workstation, anyway)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: that's why monopolies are bad, you never listen do you?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: well I guess we can always hope windows 7 will be less suckily prices
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: compare os to hardware price from 20 years ago to today
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nothing to do with monopolies, yoghurt
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: sure, so competition between between h/w manfacturers haven't pushed prices down?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: um ok, if you think so
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: there are very few manufacturers
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: i see that at least you used plural
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: there are few brands, not manufacturers
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no, there are tons of brands, very few manufacturers
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: economy of scale and advances in production technology, combined with cheap labour in china have pushed hardware prices down
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and the repro costs for an OS?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: couple $
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: OS is software, not party to the same effects
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: absolutely party to the same effects
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ariau seems to think you have the right idea.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: software or hardware both have the exact same pricing issues
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you're paying for intellectual property with the OS, not the phyiscal production cost of the CD
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: both have R&D, both have manufacture and distribution
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: if it was subject to some competition you can bet your arse the price will come down
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: if it were ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it IS subject to competition
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You raise your eyebrow at Tigernuts.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, Apple & Linux to the rescue?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: i think prices will drop as more people start using open source
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not my fault they're shit
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: ms uses all sorts of illegal marketing slush funds to remove the competition
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: watch you MOUTH!
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because you consider them to be valid competition
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: that's certainly competition for os, yes..perhaps not apple since we're probably discussing pc hardware platforms
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: they can't even give linux away it seems ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: this
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: like their bribing of poor countries standards committees to push thru their un-implementable openxml? "standard"
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: all these illegal business practises, yet still in business..time to move operations to the us
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: companies that are not held back by legacy infrastructure are happily paying for linux
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, chuft...the US was founded on illegal business practices
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: this started as a perfectly valid groan at the weakness of sterling, you know
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: typical linux fanboys trying to turn it into a m$ are illegal and sux
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: no, it was founded on armed revolt against legal government
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You fall to the floor laughing at Iron Duck Chuft's remark.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: unless you are cynical enough to consider war nothing more than an "illegal business practise"
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: which you may have a point about, but that's probably best on debate :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: at bunch of bandits stealing native american land
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: no, he didn't say "colonisation of the north american continent", he said "founding of the us"
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: tnuts did the price of ms (or whatever US) software go down when sterling was strong?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yes, yoghurt
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: nogs, the torrents were still fre..cough, I mean
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: of course!
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: if it did then at least they played fair
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: shrug..they aern't so bad as the linux diehards make out, and vice versa
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: all a very silly argument, I just like to wind both sides up equally ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: isn't the EU (re)starting action on ms' bundling of ie again?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: perhaps it's a bit late for that to be an issue..so many free broswers available, nutscrape has been gone these past 10 years ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cult of Rok Tech: Nutscrape got converted to Mozilla I thought.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: eh, perhaps..not used it since the 90s
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cult of Rok Tech: Netscape = bad, Mozilla = good. IMO.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, mozilla has always been netscape's name, if you looked at the about box
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: iexplore = ugly
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's great, leave it alone
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: shrug..never been much of a random websurfer anyway, ie fills my needs
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: if opera and mozilla didn't give IE a kick up the pants IE users will still be languishing without the joys of tabbed browsing
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: what if you don't like tabbed browsing?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: and I don't see the attraction of open source software for an enduser like me..like I can be arsed to wade through the code :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then don't have to use it
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phish Tech: ie is tabbed.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: er..I have tabbed browsing on my ie..
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cult of Rok Tech: Tabs can be removed via plugs or directly editing about:config.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: ie was not tabbed until firefox introduced tabbed browsing though
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: it's been integral for some time ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phish Tech: magic, are you still on windows 98 or something?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: the only downside of firefox for me is that is's a memory hog
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: phish, she didn't say she didn't HAVE tabbed browsing...she said what if she didn't LIKE it
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: opera had it circa 1997, mozilla quite a while later and IE well, less said about that the better
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cult of Rok Tech: Not since 3.0 Joelz.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cult of Rok Tech: Not for me anyway.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: i still have occasional problems in 3.0, yes they are much fewer
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: ah, tabbed browsing, advanced and essential feature for the casual user ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cult of Rok Tech: Heck even Photoshop has tabs now. Ick.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: all the above browsers are free, one can always make an informed choice, assuming one cares
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cult of Rok Tech: As long as I don't get stuck with Chrome.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: majic, if you don't know like tabbed browsing you can always set to have links open it new windows, so you don't lose anything either way
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: ctrl tab works for tabbed browsing :)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I personally dislike tabbed browsing, if I have a lot of pages open for some reason it's a pain to find the one I want 
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: more of a pain anyway ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: like 20 maps
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: maps? mud maps?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: i can't believe that it would be easier going to umpteen windows
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: heh, no chance..paper maps are for newbs and linux users ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: yep
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yhogurk, using the taskbar popup is easier, yes
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft concurs with you.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since it'll list the entire window name
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: but browser window also has tab popup
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bigger "grab" spot on taskbar
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I like tabs, just saying why someone could prefer not to use it with lots of sites open
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: all down to personal preferencetabbed browsing really not being good for much else ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: now you're grasping at straws, since you can control how many tabs per window, or not have tabs at all, before IE got tabs you had no choice
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: nope..you mistake me for somebody who really cares, as opposed to somebody merely stating a personal preference
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you'd multiply the complexity of going to the one you want...how did that help?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I beleive one of the first things I said was that I don't do much random url surfing
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: first gotta get to the right window, then the right tab
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: from a security standpoint IE has always stunk
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: then don't use tabs? simple?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: all browswers suck from a security standpoint, and I'd argue open source ones would be much more exploitable
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: you have a choice
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i.e has always had security issues because it is used by >95% of the populace
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: and what tubby said would've been the next point, yes ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: the security problems are ms' makings not the users
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: the only secure machine is one unplugged from the network
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: that isn't true lol just cause yer not on the net doesn
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: that isn't true lol just cause yer not on the net doesn't mean you are secure
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: unplugged from the mains then?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: it'd make your browser pretty secure ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: people used to hack with floppies nowit's USB drives
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: the most secure computer is the one buried 100 feet underground with no external connections
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: and the only people with physical access to my machine who've tried to hack it suck
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft beams with pride at Tigernuts.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: ur machine to take over the world?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: hrm, new phenom2's are out. anyone know if they're any good?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: too good for dcs, best palm people off with intel crap!
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: i need a good IRC client for vista
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: whats a good IRC client?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phish Tech: my mom!
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dire Wolfe Tech: mIRC.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phish Tech: Sick burn!
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phish Tech: err, wait
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phish Tech: nvm
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: mirc
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: mIRC sux, its monotonous colors
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: xchat, maybe
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: i wanna different color for the name/text
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Or chatzilla if you hate shareware
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: this trillian thing is pretty neat, too bad u cant MUD on it
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: there was a text based client that could connect to msn/yahoo and stuff including chat rooms, can't find a download for it anymore
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: pretty good for when you just get a new nix system installed without any video
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: anyone know of good reporter scripts for zmud?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: you can use %db( test_DB, test) as a trigger right?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: anyone find loopholes with work proxies and able to play what is normally blocked, aardwolf mud?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Use Google cache
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: to log on?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: If you can't get to the Aard site, but can get to google. You weren't very specific about what it's blocking.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: i'll give the site a shot tomorrow
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: i know ports 23 4000 4010 and 5010 arent accessible
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: i think we have aol im port open tho
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: what does 'Tag not used: <trigger> (muclient)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: Please help!
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: what does this mean and how do I fix it
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: Line   39: Elements terminated out of sequence, expected </muclient>, got </triggers> (problem in this file)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: please help!
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: No, considering that you've screamed that phrase at us twice in a space of one minute.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it means exactly what it says
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: learn to read english
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: so, somebody closed something that wasn't opened
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i don't even know that language, that's just standard stuff, there's no matching opening tag
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it means that there was a </triggers> where there should have been a </mushclient> according to some automatic parser
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: thank you Kheftiu
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: that was the answer I was looking for
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: is there anyway for newly created zmud windows to remember their previous location/size/settings?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: etc windows containing my quest information that i close after completing the quest
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: yes you can save location/size with "windows" "save layout"
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: our friendly dallas datacenter causing lag again?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: Lots of lag.  My latency is a whole 28ms!
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you can't go through dallas data center :-)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i can never get pings that low, thanks to a little thing called the atlantic ocean
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: I'm coming from 5 states away.  On a different ISP.  Lots of lag, those 28ms.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: my ping is 163
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: mine's about 150ish when dallas isn't dropping packets like a sieve
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Palladius Tech: ya'll tech guys will love it
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Palladius Tech: nslookup -type=txt large_hadron_collider.wp.dg.cx
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Satara Tech: ALL HAIL 
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: in zmud when windows start up is there a way to make it so they dont start up with the status bar and command line?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blailus Tech: Anyone know how to make an alarm in Zmud fire on half seconds? help file says it's possible, but doesn't state how to do it
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: i thought the resolution was 1 second?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blailus Tech: thats what it seems to be, but the helpfile says it can do half seconds... i've tried 0:00:00.5, and 0:00:00:5 neither work
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: maybe 0:00:00:005? 
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: or 0:00:005? even
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blailus Tech: nope that didn't work either
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blailus Tech: not a huge deal really, i suppose, was just curious =(
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: so i was able to access the aardwolf website but couldnt connect to the mud, kept timing out
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: going back to closed ports or proxy's
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: did you try connecting on a different port?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: are you at home or at work?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: this is at work
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: try port 23
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: quite likely to work, telnet is rarely firewalled
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: tried them all, both with the website client and my own
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: 23 4000 4010 5010
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: try remote desktopping home :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: what if my home comp is idle will that matter
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnistar Tech: I'm on the telnet now
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tears Tech: Can someone help me with getting this torrent I downloaded to work? Im new with them.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: get the progrm called uTorrent
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: No, because torrents can be illegal activies, and we don't discuss illegal activities here! :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: open the seed file with uTorrent
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tears Tech: I have the file downloaded.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: what type is the file
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tears Tech: I did everything it says to do. Now it says... 
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus wasn't kidding.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: If you're going to talk about illegal stuff, take it to tells.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: discussing illegal downloads on tech is against mud policy
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: MUDing can be an illegal activity too.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: there has been no indication of illeal activity
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Torrents are generally illegal downloads.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: erikson talking is alos against mud policy
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Wow, generalize much?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: i download linux iso's via torrent
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: torrents aren't illegal by definition...many legit software is distributed that way nowadays
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: thats why i said illegal downloads
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: when you hear something illegal then i will stop
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Striad Tech: WoW update system is torrent based =p (now see im breaking the rules talking about another game 
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus gasps as he realizes what Striad did.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: anyway, to the OP, it being a torrent isn't relevant once you've downloaded the actual file
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just find the file, and do whatever you would have done with it once you downloaded it from a website or ftp site
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I never said that it WAS illegal. I stated that it can be illegal, and generally are. *blink* Yeah, there are softwares that are legit and use torrents to download. :P Seems to be better than direct links nowadays.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arkadian Tech: saves on bandwith
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: distributed generally is better :)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Iso files use iso (winrar works for that). exe files, execute them.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: If you don't know what the file extension is, google it.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: someone said we should stop talkin about torrent cause it can be used for illegal purposes.... geez get a life... can we talk about cars... i hear they can be used for illegal purposes
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus pats Faenir on his head.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Faenir, I never said what you were talking is illegal. I was stating 'If you're going to talk about illegal stuff, take it to tells.' That way, you DON'T get in trouble for breaking MUD policy. Stop it before it starts!
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus is a little hyped up today.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: But you said 'no' and strongly hinted that any such conversation would be against rules, without putting a restriction on the types of torrents that could be discussed :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: tech agree majic
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Nah. I said 'No (I wouldn't) because torrents can be illegal activities, and we don't discuss illegal activities here! :P' I don't speak for everyone. ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus winks suggestively.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: you implied more
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Like I said, I'm hyped up today. :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: you can't tell him what he meant 
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: Then when the conversation continued anyway without a mention of illicit activity, you said that you weren't kidding and to take it to tells if they were going to discuss illegal activities, when none such had been mentioned :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Faenir, I never implied anything other than what the rules are. Again, stop the talk before it starts and someone gets in trouble! :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: menace i can tell him how wat he said was interpreted by me
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: thats not what you said
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Majic: That 'I wasn't kidding' is because someone sent me a tell saying, 'You're joking, right?' :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Really, that should had been a reply, but put it on tech anyway.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: whether or not he meant to imply it is irrelevant to whether it was implied
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: the 'wat i heard was' is assumed
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: no, its not
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: otherwise typing gets to cumbersome
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: if I said 'I would really hate to break your arm' and then claimed that I had no intention of breaking his arm, you can't prove that I did
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: but a reasonable person would believe so
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: if someone said they would hate to break my arm why would you automatically assume the opposite?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: it implies the possibility that they may
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: no it implies that they dont want to break your arm
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: sure, but it also implies that they can, otherwise why else would they say it?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: mecnace is just trolling now
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: and you arent faenir?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: similarly, repeatedly saying 'take discussion of illegal activities to tells' implies that such discussion is going on, whether or not it was an intended implication
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Global Menace pats Faenir on his head.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: If I'm playing tackle football with Menace, and he's a scrawny guy and I'm a big guy, I might decline, saying "I would really hate to break your arm." No malice intended.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: nods, context is everything
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: i agree with that majic
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Majic: Repeatedly saying that, yes. I said it once. Again, stop it before it starts. How hard of a concept is that to understand?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: no i wasnt trollin... i was having a serious disscussion
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: you said it twice
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: but the first time he said it i didn't see anywhere he implied the discussion is illegal
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Tell me where I said it twice to take it tells.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: oh ffs. you didn't say to take it to tells twice. you said once 'we don't discuss torrents here' and once 'take it to tells if you're going to discuss illegal activities'
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Because tech -h charneus only says it saying once. :)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: FFS, Majic: [20 Jan 22:39:38] Majic Tech: similarly, repeatedly saying 'take discussion of illegal activities to tells' blah blah blah... ---> You're IMPLYING that I said it twice.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tears Tech: So ummm.. Can someone please help me?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: rephrasing that as 'twice, you stated that tech channel was an inappropriate place to discuss torrents' :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Or rather that I said 'Take it to tells' twice. *blink*
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Striad Tech: bored tonight Charn?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Pardon me for being in the middle of four conversations and not grouping everything together. Fine. "No, because torrents can be illegal activities, and we don't discuss illegal activities here! If you're going to discuss something illegal, take it to tells! (so you don't get in trouble!)' Better?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: speaking of illegal activities, so i got on aard website and still wasnt able to connect to the mud from there, any help here with how i can mud while working =)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I just got off work. My last call was a 75 minute call where the caller couldn't make up her mind what she wanted to do with her CDs and money market accounts. First she wanted to open two. Then she wanted to open four, then back to one... :\
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: it still implies that the discussion of torrents is illegal on that channel, and it's really unfair to take out your frustrations on work on innocent newbs. go troll on debate instead ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Torunkes: Tell your IT department to let you MUD. ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: they let us youtube...
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I wasn't taking frustration out on anyone. :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: and AIM
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Striad Tech: did your try port 4000 and port 23?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: sorry, your liking to order people around ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: MUDding, Youtube and AIM are totally different things.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You're not telnetting into a server with Youtube and AIM, really.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: however, striad, you shouldn't be advising him on how to break the rules at his workplace, that could be construed otherwise :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Fine. I'll let people get in trouble, nochanned, nuked, whatever for breaking rules. That's the Helperly thing to do, right? LET people get in trouble? :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: i understand that... but IM's use a port, similar to telnet, and youtube is a portal they partially block of NR related material
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: i considered remote terminalling in to my home computer, but im not sure if simple vista setup will support that, there is mention of the upgraded (pay more) version of vista that promotes that use
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: it's unlikely they'd get more than a nochan for a first offense, and it would teach them to read the rules next time, so yes. alternatively, phrasing it as 'be aware that if your torrent is illegal, discussing it on channels is also illegal' is an alternative way to get your point across without it being construed as a blanket ban :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: nochan/short freeze
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: just use logmein.com free torunkes
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: i think that site is blocked =)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: very easy to setup and access from any comp with a web browser
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: well obviously someone doesn't want you remote desktoping then ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: it was blocked when youtube was blocked, we can remote terminal to our servers in a different area... tho
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: but youtube isnt blocked now and i havent checked since, i'll try that tomorrow
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: If you're blocked, then you need to stop asking how to get around it. Rules are in place for a reason. We won't be the cause of you getting fired just because you wanted to sit on your ass all day and MUD. Get a stay-at-home job if you want to do that.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: charneus is right :)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: i work in e-discovery with corporate litigation =) i hardly consider what i do as sitting on my ass =) i just want to quest every half hour while at work =)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: still, if it's something you can't ask your IT department to allow you to do, then you shouldn't be asking on the channels here :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: get ur lazyass working?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: i used to, but we got bought out by a fortune 100 company, and the confidentiality of what we do prohibits two way data transfer if it isnt secured, which of course i understand, but feh, i should just get an air card
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: do a maternal leave and mud all day
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: eer paternity
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: There's nothing we can do to help you break IT rules. Bring a laptop to work with a wireless connection. Or grow some balls and tell your IT department 'Hey, I want some quiet time. I play Aardwolf, ip address of aardmud.org, port 4000. Can you unblock it or allow access to it so I can play in my spare time?'
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: did two of those already ariau =)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: not many wifi connections on 75th floor dude =)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: you did a maternity leave?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: 2 pat leaves
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: where do you work? i need a better job.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: well try a maternity one, maybe u'll like it
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: and i actually work at work.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus goes back to playing guitar to disturb his neighbors.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Striad Tech: but i want to open a CD!
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: Do you live in the apartment below me? :(
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: go tell him to stfu majic
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: If it's horrible music, Majic, then no. If it's great music, then maybe.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: it depends on your taste, but they sound pretty awful to me :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: horribly bad music is definitely him
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Hah. No, it's not. :P I don't even have an apartment above me. :(
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: time to turn up the winamp :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Where's Wender Tech: for anyone on here who's interested... I'm offering 5TP for an inventory management plugin for MUSHclient. Sick of needing to manually sort my hallowed lights. If anyone is interested, send me a tell for more details.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Striad Tech: in zmud 7.21 im looking to strip the {rname} tag off of the room name but preserves the room name. any ideas?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: anyone here familiar with customizing windows media controls in ie?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nerioth Tech: When using the client and you've typed something in, and want to change it, is there a way to stop the pop up from appearing?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: yes, there's a config setting somewhere
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: input|commands|keyb prefes
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: i am looking for a web content authoring tool that allows me to build ecommerce website ie shopping carts etc .. does adobe make one ?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: come to the conclusion that all programmer in the later 70s and early 80s were hippies
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: Why's that?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: just a lot of references
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: It may be hard to believe, but they were worse than hippies
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nerioth Tech: Yeah, seriously, Hippies were happy go lucky, the later 70s and early 80s generation is out for blood
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: hippies gave way to the yuppies?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: happier times
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: The Hippies kids were the Yuppies
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: dinky was the favourite really in the 80s
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: double income no kids yet
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: lo. can someone help me out with a line of zscript that will add a number harvested from mud to a var and calculate the average?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: tech wats the prob ?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: %1 doesn't work?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i need a quick a dirty script that will calculate average damage done
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: %avg = %avg + %harvested
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: %avg = %avg + (%harvested / 20
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: whoops  %avg = %avg + (%harvested / 2)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: bugger
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: k. i can do math, but i'm not that good with zscript
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: whoops  %avg = (%avg + %harvested) / 2   
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so what function can i use ta calculate this?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: %eval
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: k. thanks
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what causes zmud to suddenly come up with mccp compression errors?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: dodgy network?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: wouldn't any network errors be picked up in the stack?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: tcp should take care of data errors before mccp sees them
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: thats what i thought
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: blah. i suck at scripting. trigger i made looks like this - ^[%d] Your pierce *[%d] , but i can't seem to get the values out of it
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: to need to escape the [ by preceding with a tilde (~)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: done that
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i cant get anything from %1, %2 or %3. should i use something else?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: here is an example from a bot i wrote for another mud  .... hehe
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: and use the test tab to check that your pattern actually matches the text you want it to match
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: #TRIGGER {HP: (%d)/(%d) *Mana} {hird = [%2/3]
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yes, from another mud, ahem
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: #TRIGGER {HP: (%d)/(%d) *Mana} {hird = [%2/3];wothirds = [hird * 2]; #IF (not (%1>wothirds)) {    drain [hird] hp; l chalice;    }  }}
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: wait, damn esc chars
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: yeah it was for a mud called eotl.org
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: if you want %1, %2 etc you need to capture them by enclosing them in (), eg (%d)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: heh. the trigger fires fine. i have an echo for that, but i don't see the value
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, that's something
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: test   
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: test   ;est
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: where they counted in hirds?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: test   ;\est
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: lol
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: got it, thanks
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i thought i was missing something
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: i dont know the esc in mushclient
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: @test
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: got it
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: #TRIGGER {HP: (%d)/(%d) *Mana} {@third = [%2/3];@twothirds = [@third * 2]; #IF (not (%1>@twothirds)) {    drain [@third] hp; l chalice;    }  }}
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: What's a good disk imaging utility?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: dd
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: dd?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: for hard disks that is
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: in vista
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: dd is a *nix util, works for any "disk" type media
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: dd has no prejudices, it will happily image disks containing vista :)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: or you could use partimage, that is a bit more sophisticated since it knows about various filesystems and hence only backup the parts that are used (unlike dd which reads every single block)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: anyone really good with QB's? Send me a tell please...
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artea Tech: having some troubles getting zMUD to open on my new computer, getting an access violation error...Anybody have a clue?  Send me a tell...
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: is this vista?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artea Tech: yes it is
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: did you install it as an admin?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: check out forums at zuggsoft, zmud isn't supported for vista but people have found ways to make it work.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artea Tech: I guess I could have...yeah I sent a request for support, just impatient.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artea Tech: thanks
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: sorry I don't run it under vista, usually we have someone who does that can help.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flumpy Tech: i run under vista, but i use mushclient
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flumpy Tech: mushclient seems to work find for me
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: which helps a lot when they specificly said zmud.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: they usually suggest turning UAC off
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flumpy Tech: yea but why use something sucky
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: yeah I agree which is why I'm still with XP :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flumpy Tech: hehe
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artea Tech: well it's strange, it worked at first when I downloaded it, but when I had put the access key in to remove the 30 day trial, the program wouldn't open.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: yeah why use something sucky like windows ?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flumpy Tech: ooh "access key" *wink
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artea Tech: faenir your no help
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: lol
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: run zmud in compatbility mode ?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flumpy Tech: if you paid for it maybe you should contact zmuds helpful staff?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: they said they had, and zmud isn't supported FOR Vista
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flumpy Tech: well tehre you go then
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: FatesDagger said zmud was unsupported on vista
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: though checking our forums there should give them the work around.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artea Tech: yeah, well there seems to be a way around it, just want to be able to use what I payed for
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Artea shrugs helplessly.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: err checking out forums there
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Artea nods.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: you could get virtualpc and run zmud in a virtual XP machine under vista
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: wouldn't it be better to run under a virtual win98 machine (less resource intensive)?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: watever floats your boat
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: i i was gunna go that far i would prob switch to mushclient anyway, lol
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artea Tech: heh, should have read forums first, seems I'm not the only one with this problem.  Hehe
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Artea bonks himself and grimaces in pain.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artea Tech: thanks all
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: not a problem, hope you get it working.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Do you think that making an alias that does changes K (mob) to BS mob is good?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dire Wolfe Tech: I usually do it the other way round, alias bs to k till I get the skill each mort.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: why?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dire Wolfe Tech: Because I'm used to hitting bs for 180 levels out of 200 ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bs isn't worth using these days
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dire Wolfe Tech: Eh, at lower levels it's as good as anything else.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dire Wolfe Tech: Right now, I'm doing about 10, 15% damage.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: for the most part, if your str/dex/con are good, a full round of attacks will do more damage than bs
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: certainly the case pvm at SH
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dire Wolfe Tech: I'm a psi. I'm not noted for str/dex/con ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: I don't know what you mean that Backstab isn't good, its decent fo rm
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it used to be that everyone, including people that were not pthieves (once they had thief mort), would start off with a BS...that's no longer the best choice
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: aaah ok, really? how about for Pthieves, thats still usually the best choice right?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: even for pthieves ;-)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's ok at low levels, vadar
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: seriously... whats better than bs... O_o
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: kill is, vadar
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: why?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: because it often does more damage
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the issue that tigernuts is bringing up is that backstab takes the place of a round of combat
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: oh really?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: look at that, it does
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: take a look at your backstab, then look at your next round of combat, and see which does more (on average)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: my bs still does more though
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: a pthief would do 5 hits max, doing about 125-150% of a normal hit each
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: whereas attack with a regular set of attacks, and you could potentially do, what, 9 hits?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vadar, you also don't have warrior yet, with all the extra normal attacks
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: lol aah ok :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so that's where tiger's comments apply
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: thats why
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: so i guess until i get that bs will probably be better for me
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and your backstab will get lots better at level 70 as well
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: how come? Enhanced BS?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just keep an eye on that bs damage vs second round damage
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, enhanced
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: anyone have a script or trigger ect. for MUSHclient that puts out all the damage combined in 1 round of battle?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: you could just add them up
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i know i could
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: I assume you want to do it fast and evaluate differt weapons and spells?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my tinyfugue is set up to list melee damage in 1 line, and spell damage in 1 other line
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: tinyfugue would be?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my client of choice
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: aah ok
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not for the faint of heart tho...it's command-line only ;-)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Whats that mean?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it means there's no buttons and menues for configuration
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: ouch..
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You snicker softly.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: you should make a client for it that sets up menus and buttons XD
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: It's not as awful as it sounds :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: yes it is, lol
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are a couple "wrapper" guis for it
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: thats sounds like an advanced telnet :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUSH is an advanced telnet as well...
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i wish i could explain what i meant
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: lol, but for some reason i cannot put it into words :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: however i say it, it comes out the wrong way. :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: so in that case, forget it :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I know what you mean...telnet the program vs telnet the protocol
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Darth Vadar )
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but imagine telling a WoW user about Aard ;-)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: if you cant live without your mouse forget TF
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: try drawing it out, a piccie is worth 1K words
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Yeah, lol
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they'd have the same response to Aard that you'd have to tinyfugue ;-)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: true, i guess its like WoW is to Aard as MUSH is to TF?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Darth Vadar P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: lol
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: dumb emote things
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: they don't let me make my face
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use 2 :s when you only have the :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dire Wolfe Tech: Tinyfugue is for those uphill iceskating enthusiasts. ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Impotent Inicus smirks at Dire Wolfe's saying.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tf can be quite powerful in the right hands :-)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dire Wolfe Tech: I'll stick with zMUD. I know where I am there ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: well, what can i tdo?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: what are the perks?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: except wow isnt a challenge anymore... all the quests and gear and boss strategys are all documented... it's just mindless grinding and 13yro nerd rage now
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: well, i liked wow, i just could't pay for it :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dire Wolfe Tech: Well, you could always... not read the spoilers? ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: 13 year old nerd rage is fun to watch, but I'd never pay subscription just to see it.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: i cancelled my wow acct a week ago, im sick of it
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dire Wolfe Tech: Crazy notion, I know ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i got to level 40 i belive :P i payed for 1 month :p
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: too bad you can't remort in WoW 
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: Honestly, after all the online games I've tried, aard is the only one I come back to
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Impotent Inicus is agreeing with that Argead person again...
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: for real, the best online games i've liked, i have 3
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: Problem is I keep going on hiatus long enough to get idlepurged :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Aard,Roe,and probably the one on armorgames.com called bubble breaker :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dire Wolfe Tech: Been a long time since anyone got archived.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: well i used to keep coming back to a different, much older mud, but they closed since i started wow, so im here now
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arkadian Tech: I managed to not get purged an I hadn't played for 7 months
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: Hmm, I see...in any case I've gotten further with this char than my last one :)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's players that still exist that haven't logged on in over 3 years
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i'm going on a cruise in 3 days
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: can't wait to get away :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Secretary Timeghost Tech: archiving was intentionally not done for several years before V3 - archived players from V2 can no longer be restored, but those are pfiles that had last been on more than 5 years ago.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i have a question, because whenever i type kill (mob) (no bs) it only hits once
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: is that normal?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: at your level, probably not far out
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: got second attack maxxed yet?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: Anyone here know why Mushclient isnt showing me what is being bought off auction?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and third
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and dual wield
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i dunno
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: check those out :-) make sure you have those skills
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: lol only maxed skill i have is dagger
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Instant, it is a bug in the chat script, look in the tech board for a fix
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: then second attack i sat 80%
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: also, dexterity controls number of hits you get
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: to an extent
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: Laaaaame. Anything I can download that will fix it straight off?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i have maxed skills atm
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what annoys me most of all is mp3's without the proper id tags
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Like, incorrect artist.. album?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: just nothing in the id tag at all, and the whole thing dumped in the file name instead
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Oh ick.. I hate that
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: not a problem if you ripped your own cds :)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: lol i downloaded winamp v2.95 tonight, cause i am so sick of modern media players
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: The "01 - artistname-song" song titles
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nogs, imp
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phish Tech: thats why i use pandoras jar, tags everything, album art and lyrics as well
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argead Tech: I use dbpoweramp for my tags, can convert music formats too
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i can tag it with winamp
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: instant, type "board tech", then "note read 4554", "note read 4555", and "note read 4556"
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: thanks mate.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: Ahh well, dont look like I have the time to do this now :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: I ll notebook the number.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: Thanks anyway.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoalord Archanfel Tech: if i bought zmud should i get cmud
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: no get the aardclient
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you have zmud and like it, no reason to switch
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't go to cmud unless you are comfortable recoding scripts
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: if you HAVE to change, the aardclient is great... and i used zmud for over 10 years
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but for those users on cmud, davos has some scripts available at davos.aardcharn.com
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: what he said
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: question --- when using thunderbird, there was an addon that would let you accept meeting requests and things and had a calendar and things... anyone remember what it was called?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lightning?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: yeah... thanks :)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nerioth Tech: ok, why is it that my chats echo off, won't stay off if I close down the application?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: what client are you using?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nerioth Tech: mushclient
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: I think you have to click File --> Save world details
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: to save the setting, I'm probably wrong though
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nerioth Tech: thanks
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: anyone got any idea why my repop notifier suddenly stopped working? did something change in game?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: in zmud i'm trying to make my xptimer different colors for different ranges, red for less than 3, yellow for 3 to 5, and green for over 5, how do i make the 3 to 5 range?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Would it be illegal for me to ask if anyone on here would be interested in coding another mud a friend and i are working on?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'd be rather rude :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Well, I'm not gonna release the name here, so it's not like I'm advertising it.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: I just know a lot of people know what they're doing here.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: And we need help bad.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: anyone alive
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: not me
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: acronis for mac
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: any ideas
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish raises an eyebrow.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: about to swap hard drives, so was trying to clone/image current one
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: in my macbookpro
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: i'm not familiar with acronis, but there are plenty of other programstech and you're trying to
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: i'm not sure where that lastp art came from
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doja Tech: is there a way to make help script appear in the aardwolf screen instead of a separate one?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doja Tech: for mushclient that is
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Yeah, I think you can uninstall the plugin that moves it
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Go to File -> Plugins and look at that list-- see if you see one regarding help files
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Afterwards you'll likely have to do a tags help off
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Excuse me, that would be 'tags helps off' - with helps being plural.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doja Tech: i only have two plugins running
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: just do     tags helps off
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: dont mess with plugins
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Yeah, that might work-- but I'm worried about telopts just automatically turning them back on the next time you connect.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: it does work, i just did it
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: dunno about reactivate
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: i will let you know after 2x XP   lol
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doja Tech: thank you for the help guys! It worked
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenai Tech: can anyone answer a question for me?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dire Wolfe Tech: Yes, I imagine anyone can.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: dunno till you ask
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: - 20
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenai Tech: trying to do a spellup script, using huans, says if i want the level to update automatically need to copy something to clipboard, how do i find clipboard
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenai Tech: this is so confusing, was hoping this would just be a click and copy thing like wow was
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: the clipboad is where things go when you 'copy' something
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenai Tech: thank you, one more question for now, i did this script and now it tells me every 15,10 and 5 seconds to tick, anyway to stop that?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Yeah, read the docs on Huan's page
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: 'autotick'   ?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Anyone use the Spellup plugin on the Aardwolf website for the custom mushclient?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: I got it to work, but can't get it to show the spellups window
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Any ideas?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: go to the forum and look at the original page for the script there
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the link from aardwolf.com is done poorly
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there's a lot more to it than just that xml file
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Yeah, making the spellups.mcl world file, and the other plugins
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: how do I prefix everything I say in zmud?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: like if I wanted to send a friend a log, I'd want to do something like "#prefix tell friend"
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jumala Pohhui Tech: is there any key in zmud with what i can lose splitscreen?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: ctrl-z
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jumala Pohhui Tech: wicked
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jumala Pohhui Tech: ty
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: in mushclient is there a way to send a command to mud without checking for aliases from the command window?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ologn Tech: adding a space before the alias is the simplest way
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: thanks olgon should have thought of that
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Osheru Tech: I'm thinking of starting up a mud of my own just to mess around with it. Anyone know where I can get the source code for CircleMUD and how I would go about setting it up?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: did you try googling "circlemud"
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Osheru Tech: Yes, but I get a bunch of info sites. I found one that I was able to download and attempt to set it up but it was missing files I guess and I couldn't get it to compile.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, first link I see in google is http://www.circlemud.org...
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Osheru Tech: Nod I went there and there links to dl are broken :/
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no they're not
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I just downloaded circle 3.1
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Osheru Tech: Umm ... I click on 3.0 and it brings me to there ftp site and it gives me an error
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then your ftp client is broken
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Osheru Tech: blah
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just did it in msie and in links
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Osheru Tech: Damn .. stupid computer
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, actually it doesn't take you to an ftp site...it's all just straight http
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Osheru Tech: Really .. where did you go than .. I clicked onResources for circlemud admins and clicked on 3.00
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the link on the main page says "ftp site", but it's a link to http://www.circlemud.org/pub/CircleMUD/
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so it's still not using ftp
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Osheru Tech: Ah okay
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Osheru Tech: Okay I have it ... how do I go about getting it set up.  I tried using cygwin,  but when I tried following the directions the mount command wouldn't work, and it gave me an error when trying to configure and than make didn't exist for a command :/
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you modified the mount command for your environment?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Osheru Tech: I went into cmd prompt and tried to and it didn't work
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eternal Anguish Tech: ugh...in zmud the minute i type "the at sign" in like a say line.. it turns it blue and acts like a command instead of a text color indicator... how can i make it just text?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they gave an example of what the mount command would need to be...you need to use the right path
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eternal Anguish Tech: figured it out on my own, thanks for all your help... not...
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Osheru Tech: okay when I try to mount its telling me device or resource is busy :/
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Osheru Tech: Anyone else that could help me compile circlemud?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dio Tech: question, how would i go about adding a window for the map, and maybe one for the health in Mushclient?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: I need some help with some alias's / triggers
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phish Tech: what client?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: MUSH
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: think you can help me?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phish Tech: ask away
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: great
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phish Tech: ill tryt
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i Made 2 alias's that set the vars weap1 and weap2
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: now, i want to make it so that another alias i have (quest complete) uses those variables to rearm myself after i complete the quest
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: How would i do that?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: expand variables
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phish Tech: i assume you are going from dual wield to portal to get back to questor?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: variable name is @weap1 or whatever, so do "dual @weap1"
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: wait up
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i dual remove, wear portal enter quest complete then i want to wear whatever i removed
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: so to do that i just dual eap2?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: @weap2
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: dual @weap2, sure.  Just make sure expand variables is checked
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: kk lemme try it
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: If you're doing a dual remove - trigger on 'You stop wielding x in your off-hand'
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: woot i towkred
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: X is not necessarily the name of the weapon
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: thanks
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i got it working
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: no problem
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: ack good point
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorcry Tech: how do I set the client so that when I login it automatically keeps all the comments to the chats window and not in my main window
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorcry Tech: anyone?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: anyone for what
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phish Tech: what client?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorcry Tech: the aardwolf mushclient
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: It would help if you told us the following: Client, Problem, How much money you will pay
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Try 'chats echo off'
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: i think he means to do it automatically instead of having to type it each time he logs in
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: ooh, Onconnect Chats echo off :)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phish Tech: world settings - connecting - make sure its diku style, fill in name password, put a p in the send to upon connect field and bam
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorcry Tech: Exactly Gunstling
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: make an onconnect script?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: just like you can make a script to autologg you in when you open MUSH >:)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: In game->configure->connecting, you can set something to send after connecting.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: what does the "p" do in the send after connect?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phish Tech: it is a blank line to the mud but it gets you past the motd
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: oh really... ok... cooles
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I think you might even be able to do 'chats echo off' at the motd, but I'm not sure.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorcry Tech: Is there somewhere I can get directions on how to create the onconnect script?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phish Tech: so if you are away when it auto-reconnects it goes into the actual game
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phish Tech: gammon forums
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorcry Tech: Thanks everyone!  I'm a newbie,just trying to figure this stuff out.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: thats part of the fun in Mudding!
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: edit the xml, in the OnPluginConnect function add "echo = false", save, done
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you can edit the plugin from the File->Plugins window
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: hey Phis... that didn't work... i put a "p" first line of the "send after connect" and it says "unknown command"
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You can probably just do it with the "connect text" window in game->configure->connecting
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorcry Tech: I don't see the OnPluginConnect function...
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: its somewhere.. over the rainbow :p Look for it
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorcry Tech: I do to file, Plugins...but the onpluginconnect is not in that list....
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: click on the Chats plugin and hit the edit button
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorcry Tech: THANKS!!
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: mmm love #killall All keys, aliases, variables, paths, triggers, tabs, menus, status bars deleted
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: but dose killall also purge active alarms?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nerioth Tech: ok, why do I have to keep typing chats echo off in my main window? I clicked on save details under file
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: it changes, you need to make it so that onconnect you type it automaticly
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Wait, what's the issue?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: the chat echo off, he doesn't like typing it over and over
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: You want it to not show stuff in the output window that you have typed?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nerioth Tech: I don't want channels spamming in my main window
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Turn some channels off then?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i'm guessing your using mush right?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nerioth Tech: that's not the problem, the problem is the mushclient has a window for chat, I only want it in that window 
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rampagne Tech: anyone know why .zip files would stop being recognized in vista ?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: Probably the WinZip cult trying to recruit a new following
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: could be they were saved as extension .zip but were not actually compressed and saved as a different type
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: I am of the understanding that .zip files aren't automatically recognized by windows, period, and that you need 3rd party archival software to see/extract them
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: xp has a built in zip tool
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rampagne Tech: nah, I just tried to use the vista compression to make sure  and it is making them as if they are not actually zip file
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: oh
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: neat
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rampagne Tech: its weird
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: use winrar =)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: meh, why bother fixing it?  you'll be on windows 7 soon enough
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: zip is propiatory and the compression is even not that good. 7zip is the best for windows
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: how to i make an alias that puts (x) number of something into a container?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: for what client
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: mush
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: alias {item and numnber} {what u wanna alias to}
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: idiot
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i try
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: not buy (x) number
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: wow, you called him an idiot for trying to help you.  i bet you get a lot more assistance with this
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: its the same as placing the amount into a container just change the alias
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: how exactly does one justify calling someone else an idiot while asking for assistance with a trivial task?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: I know I was suprised too.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: I guess making a character does not exclude tool heads.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i prolly deserved it mmy answer was way scewed cuz i misread like a mother lol
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Swangin is agreeing with that Hellfiend person again...
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: regardless
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: making such a simple alias is trivial to the point of absurdity
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: lol
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: requiring help with such a task says much of the asker
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: om guys b nice whats the point of talking trash on some1 playing a GAME
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ilidar grabs some popcorn and sits back to watch the show.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and thus eliminates the position of being able to insult others
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i meant ok not om lol
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: or lack of knowledge of sending commands to world.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: they could have it working and be going okay what am I missing but everyone seems to prefer belittling before seeing what the issue is.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: anyone here know how to get rid of a virus? or better yet viruses
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A rotten Potato Tech: format :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Well besides that, i don't want to format
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: depends on the virus(s)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: well how to i find out which virus is which?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hail! Ceasar Tech: how do you know you have them?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WeaponGuy Tech: I doubt there are any viruses you'd have to format for. Techs who tell you that just don't have the right antivirus software for the virus you have.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Pop-ups
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: its a very complicated process and im not rly sure how to put it into understandable language
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: there are pop-ups, and sometimes the browser just starts popping up without stoppig
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: and i'm not opening them
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WeaponGuy Tech: Get Adaware and try that.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Have it
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: tried it, nothing
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: do u know what to look for in ur system files for a trojan?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: nope
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: shot
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: shoot
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A rotten Potato Tech: you could always check out Windows Defender to see if it finds anything
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: or norton
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: lolorton
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: lol@norton :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: one other way is to go to google and search for virus scans but thats taking a risk....
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WeaponGuy Tech: Go here: http://housecall.trendmicro.com/
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: norton is a useless piece of junk
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Eternal Anguish nods.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: going to the trendmicro
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i know it is but it sometimes picks up something passed over by defender
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neleus Tech: I use avg free
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i HATTE avg
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eternal Anguish Tech: PC Tools ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: lol i have about 7 diff programs running 24/7
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WeaponGuy Tech: I've never had AVG find anything. It sucks. I got a virus that tore me a new one and AVG didn't even know it was there, even with fresh updates.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: lol yeah but defender is actually pretty good but its also semi-easy to get around
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WeaponGuy Tech: If Trend Micro doesn't find it, get multifix.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: multifix? What does that do?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: sophos protects me!
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: should the multifix find the virus?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WeaponGuy Tech: Multifix is amazing. I'm not sure it works on the easy viruses, though.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: prevention with good practices and white/blacklists protects me !
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WeaponGuy Tech: The nasty ones that take over your PC and don't allow your browser to access antivirus websites and disallow installation of antivirus software. Those ones, multifix will get.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: just joining in here, multifix is AV software?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: how about one that doesn't let you download anything
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: a friend of mine says he also has one that doens't let him downlaod anything
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: when he tries he gets batted
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: how long ago did you start going popup crazy? and by any chance have you tried loading a restore point further back from that?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WeaponGuy Tech: Yes. It works really well on "antivirus 2008" and other nasty ones like that.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: aaah great! how do you do a restore point on vista?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WeaponGuy Tech: Anyone use Ccleaner?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: sometimes
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: i do occasionally
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Anyone know how to do a restore point on windows vista?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: microsoft Windows sucks badly if viruses are yet able to gain footholds
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i have Xp and have no idea how i would tell im to do that
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: him*
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the whole Intel 80xxx architecture was badly designed -- every Top Dick and Harry virus trojan is able to do SVCs that compromise the OS system
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: thats got nothin to do with x86 arch
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that has nothing to do with the cpu
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: it's MS OS desgin
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Neleus nods at Faenir.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Whats a good unlimited free password protected file hosting site?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: unlimited and free?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: well, decent
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hail! Ceasar Tech: use yahoo mail and send yourself mail with attachments? :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: gmail.com
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: maybe a gig max
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Ceasar! thats genius!
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there's a firefox plugin for gmail that allows you to store large files in your mail account
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: google  HostsXpert   from good   hosts file managment
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it breaks them up into 10mb chunks
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: hmm, i miss read question
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: in te IBM /360 and /370 design, important commands were done through the SVC instruction -- what is the equivalent safety protocol in the 80xxx architecture
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neleus Tech: what exactly did the svc command do xyliz? google doesn't know of it
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you're a freshman in college aren't you
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: SVC - SerVice Call
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: google is extremely ignorant pre-1980s
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neleus Tech: so now you want me to google "service call"?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Supervisor call
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neleus Tech: you still haven't told me what it does...
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: you may get an unreliable list of high-priced madams 
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: yeah, SuperVisor Call (svc)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: A supervisor call is a mechanism whereby a program can interrupt normal flow of processing and ask the supervisor to perform a function for the program that the program either cannot or is not permitted to perform for itself.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Robbo :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neleus Tech: so are we similar to "rings" in x86? sounds the same
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neleus Tech: doesn't look special to that architecture...
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: and how do trojans and virus spread if they must get everything they do approved through SVC which is going to check for permissions
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: user stupidity
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: They are related.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: unpatched buffer overflow exploits work well.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neleus Tech: I don't see how this is a fault of the architecture, xyliz
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: and Browser stupidity
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Wikipedia 'supervisor mode'
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: the problem usually lies between the monitor and the chair
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: lol can you imagine making your average user use security on a commodity PC
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Sure, install Linux and don't give them the root password. :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'm going out on a limb here and am willing to bet that Xyliz just started a class on computer security, but isn't actually a CS major, in college.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's his first month of class, and they just got to the part of the book that talks about old 360s
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and they probably even reference Multics
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: the reason 8088's ...   ;-)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: what does a Trojan Do anyways?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: I would love to learn how to get rid of virus's manually XD
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it steals a pretty girl from the greeks
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: or PDP-6s :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Theres money in Virus removal?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: it's easy to get rid of malware easy and fast and safe... multi partion your system and image your system partion immediatly after setup.... then restore when infected
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: do you expect me to understand that?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: XD
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: lol
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: multi partion means what?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: partition multiply
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: lets go 1 step at a time
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: partition multiply means?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: XD
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: ... sounds like you're far from learning to remove virus manually...
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hail! Ceasar Tech: pretty much, you partition your drive, it acts like 2 drives
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: ggogle  'ghost image'
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: so like split it in 2?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hail! Ceasar Tech: so you install windows on 1 and everything else on the other
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: like split it in two
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: no point installing everything else on the other, the other is for storing your documents
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: ok then, so you partition the drive, then do what?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: actually removing viruses and other malware is a waste of time... in a corprate environment where time is money you dont bother removing stuff that manages to get thru securtiy, you just nuke it from orbit...  it's the only way to be sure
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: tech use several logical partitions  OS, page-file, Programs, Data files, browser-cache 
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: gimmi 5 mins or 10 brb
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: tthen when a virus trojan lands, nuke restore the  OS partition and maybe the programs partition, and nuke the page-swap-file and the Browser cache
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, the trojan never would be on the data partition, I'm sure
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: most malware is hard coded for the 'C' partition
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: regardless of the fact that a good portion of trojans are in the form of data files
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: or in the virus-prone office files
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: for me I'd rather just check regedit, system files and sorts manually
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not for C, but for root
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: installing everything on D wont solve your problems
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but that's what they're coded to impact after infection...they'll work perfectly fine from any other partition
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and by their nature, you'll reinfect after nuking OS and program part
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: in 7 years of tech support havent seen a problem that a system partition wont fix   ;-)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes you have, you just haven't recognized it
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: virtual machines are nice. create snapshots and nuke the infected ones
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: yeah i use VM's to run keygen's and such
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: virtual machines are nice if you're ok with losing performance off the top
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, but if you just use one to watch porn it's not that big of a problem
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: is there a premium version of AVG that you can pay for?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: yes, but dont
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: well, maybe
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: trend,NOD or kapersky are wat i would recommend
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: Hey people is Nod32 any good?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: Nod32 AV.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: yes
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: very
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: lightweight, cheap, efficient
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: But the question is, does it look like this...
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: Gimme a sec.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: nod is well known for being fast
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: Anyone here know the current version of Nod23
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: 32*
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: try google, i'm not doing that for you
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: Anyone here have CheckPoint NGX experience?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dio Tech: any of you menage to run aardmud on the iphone yet?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: Hey people, How do I get chat to be directed only to the chats window?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: using mushclient
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: using a series of pipes on your text
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: it's all easy shit and people weave their nets of lies around it so others can't understand it
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: then pretend they're ignorant of things they created
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: anyone here know how to configure mush client so only Game related text is shown on the Aardwolf tab, and Chats are shown in the Chats tab?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: on the same note, I'll like to know how to set "help" not to open in a new window...
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Kirua, click File, then plugins, and disable the one that says it opens a new window for help files
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Should be Aardwolf_Help
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: thanks
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: it's easier to type tags helps off
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: does anyone know the zmud command to focus back on the main window command line?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blacklight Tech: how do u get rid of the echo from when u type in a comand on mushclient?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: found another reason for hating vista today
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eternal Anguish Tech: do tell
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RL Sucks Xantcha Tech: Oh Vista, how do we hate thee... let us count the ways....
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: practically impossible to repair a damaged registry key because it gets all anal about permissions
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: I just got a docx (Office 07) and it took twenty minutes to get a convert to Office 03
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you have slow internet? the update isn't exactly large
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miquiz Tetzahuitl Tech: turning off UAC doesn't help that eh
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nope, neither does running regedit as admin
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: in the end i had to use a workaround rather than fixing the problem
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: agreed MS permissions in general are poopoo, all about them getting access but no-one else
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nogs, if you're the administrator, you should be able to do what the hell you like
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blacklight Tech: does anyone know hoe to turn off the cho when u type in stuff?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blacklight Tech: echo*
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: last sat. I got the SP3 for XP, 4 hours and a restore later I had IE7, wasted the day
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i try never to install service packs unless i'm doing a fresh install of the OS with the SP slitstreamed
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: silly me
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: they nagged me into it
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: MS automatic updates
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: heh, turn em off
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: as of last saturday
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blacklight Tech: does anyone know where i can find a good plugin for monertering lvl gains and like trains and stuff?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunstling Tech: what client
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blacklight Tech: mushclient
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grasshacker Tech: And then spamming your flist? ;p
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blacklight Tech: well would hope i could change them to gt
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blacklight Tech: anyone got anything?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Is there a way to do a RE-format of the Drive without CD's?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yes, but would you want to?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what do you mean?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: yeah, i wanna get rid of all the fricking virus's on this computer
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: how would you reinstall it after?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: reformatting is *easy* problem will be reinstalling OS afterwards without CDs.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: True... 
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you can format any drive if it's not used by an os. so you can boot from another hdd, usb storage etc
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: do you have a license for your windows?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unless it's a machine that has a hidden restore partition
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: lol is there a way i can get an OS free?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: I doubt it
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i found this computer
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah. it's called linux
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure, linux, net/free/openBSD :-)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: lol
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: found lol
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: You uh.. found it?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Yeah lol
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: have a look on the sides/back for a windows license sticker
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if it's a lappie, check underneath
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if you don't have one, your options are: a cracked (illegal) copy of windows, or linux
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: or bsd
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or BSD or solaris
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: netbsd?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: openbsd?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod tigernuts :-)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: is it a really old pc then?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: yes
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: But it has XP :)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if you were to find a copy of windows 2000 or older, you don't have any problems with activation
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: but i think its a cracked version of XP because when i went throiught the verification process for windows media player it failed
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: anyways, is linux good at all?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's ok
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Because it sounds wierd
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you're restricted in terms of what software you can use, but it is free
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: What do you mean?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he means you can't grab a game off the shelf at a store and just run it
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not windows...windows software won't run natively
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Ooooh
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: kinda like having a mac then?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, less than that ;-)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: like having a mac, but more geeky and less snobbish
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Crap
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: lol
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a Mac can run everything linux can, plus Mac stuff ;-)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: but its free? :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: is mac free?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: in my experience open source nuts are more snobbish than mac users, lol
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nogs
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: us windows users slum it, really
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is that as in beer? ;-)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: nod WinXP software for the lowest commoner, why do it right when you can make people pay for the software to make it run, then run safe then pay again for the software you acutally need to run.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: there i a view that if linux was the most popular OS it would suffer amny of the issues windows has, like security scrutiny and badly written app software
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: is it possible to do a reformat but keep your OS?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Or something similar to doing that
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: no
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eternal Anguish Tech: image it?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Would a restore point to like the first day you got it work?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: or would the virus's still be there if i did that
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: restor points are notoriously unreliable
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why not just remove the viruses?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunshin Tech: It would probably still be there.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Poza Tech: off
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunshin Tech: Just remove it with an Anti Virus program.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: just format it
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Poza, just type "tech" to turn this channel off
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: it doesn't remove
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunshin Tech: I seem to find AVH Anti-Virus to work just fine.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Poza Tech: off
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eternal Anguish Tech: stop dling pr0n?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i don't
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: try combofix, first
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunshin Tech: AVG*
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Stop "finding" random computers?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: If typing 'tech off' didn't work the first time, why would you do it again?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: stop wasting time with AV's... you will never be sure it's clean until you format it
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: I guess, so how would i go about downloading Linux?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunshin Tech: Formatting the hard drive, Faenir?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RL Sucks Xantcha Tech: I have the best antivirus ever... an electromagnet
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i can't wait till i get enough cash for a laptop
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunshin Tech: Download it from a website on the internet. I downloaded Ubuntu, once.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: XD Xantach!
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: good linux page:   http://www.ubuntu.com/
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gunshin D
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: ubuntu is the best linux?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: www.opensuse.org
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunshin Tech: I like to think it is
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eternal Anguish Tech: yes vader
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunshin Tech: My friend also has Simply Mepis.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: lol "best"
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RL Sucks Xantcha Tech: "Best" linux is a matter of interpretation
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: ok, so what do i do? Just put it on a CD?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunshin Tech: Or download it.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RL Sucks Xantcha Tech: it all depends upon what you want to do with it, and your experience
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nogs, you download an .iso file and burn it to cd
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: never ask a bunch of geeks which the best OS is, they all have their own opinions which are as valid or invalid as the other
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: America os "best" country
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Poza Tech: off
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: on!
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Poza Tech: on
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Eternal Anguish slaps Poza.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Poza try typing Tech without anything
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: ubuntu is a great desktop linux for newbies
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunshin Tech: Try to download it, and give it a .iso extension. From there, put it onto a CD, and then you will have to boot from it
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Poza Tech: LOL
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: kk
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Poza Tech: Sorry ya'll
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Darth Vadar P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Poza, just type tech
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunshin Tech: Then you should come up with an option to install it, on the desktop, I believe
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: That'll turn off this channel
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Ok, so i install it on the desktop?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: then i put it on a cD?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: then i format the whole fricking drive
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: stick it on cd
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: then i boot from the cd?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yup
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: then i dwl the OS
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunshin Tech: Yes.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: then i get MUSH back?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: XD
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: will MUSH work the same on Linux?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Oh, one more thing
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: My older computer, that i used before this one. (i actually bought this one)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: you can make a network :)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: noo not that
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: theres a prob with it
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: it doesn't want to turn on
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: and it has 2 HD's is it possible that the problems are the harddrives?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: As you get older, you'll find that you can turn less things on
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: lol
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: but it depends what it does - it could be your power supply
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: well, when i start it up, it shows me the emachines logo
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: then the fans start slowing down
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: downloadtech or you only turn things on once, where you used to rebott 3 times a night   ;-)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: then it just freezes at the e-machines logo
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: I don't know if that was sopposed to be a joke faenir, but i didin't understand it
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: lol
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if it freezes at the emachines logo, try unplugging all the drives, plug em back in one at a time and see which one is cocking up
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: I tried that
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: I tried unplugging everything and putting it back together
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mauler Tech: one time my phone wasnt working so i threw it at the wall, i picked it up and and it worked fine after that.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: tried resetting the bios?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: I can't, it won't even go into the bios
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: unplug all the drives, remove the battery, wait 10 minutes, plug battery in, leave drives disconnected, boot up
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: then what should i expect it to do?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: it will go into the bios then?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: ....
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Anyone here know a bit about making webbys?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dunno what you mean by making webbys
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Html
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: CSs
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you mean web pages
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: there are a few spiders in my house who know a bit about making webbys
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: webbys are an online award
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Yeah
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: oh, well my bad, i thought everyone would understand webbys as a website, i'll be sure to say website next time :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: plenty of people here know how to make web pages, yes
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: nope, no one here knows how to make a webpage
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: why dont you just ask wat you want to know ?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Argot grins evilly at Remind Hargreaves.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: these geek types hate people thinking they might not know stuff
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: one word answers everything i dont know... google
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Ok, on my website, i use FTP to get my files uploaded. IF i put a folder in it, how would i find the files in the folders?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: you'll see the folders in your ftp view, and they'll become part of the URL path
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: same way you'd find the files if they weren't in the folder...
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: chances are the FTP works exactly the same way any other file viewer you've used works.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: so it would be Blah.com/index/(foldername)/file?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: so a folder called images  at your root directory would show as www.example.com/images
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: and if you're using a textbased ftp - you can use the 'dc' command
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: erk - 'cd'
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cd
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: its not text based :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: but thanks
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then how do you see files in a folder on your computer?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i use CoreFTP light
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: same thing here
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: if it's got icons, you'll see folder icons
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: ok, so if i put an audio file in a file called Audio. and the file is called.. Drap.wav then the url would be Blah.com/audio/drap.wav?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: Make sure to use caps
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Caps?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: If the file is in caps, the URL should mirror that
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: No :) it'll be in Blah.com/Audio/Drap.wav
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rather, make sure to be consistent in your caps
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Argot rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: point is, it's likely to be case sensitive
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depending on webserver config, it may or may not care about case
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: i don't think URL's are case sensitive
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: Love you two, always completing my thoughts <3
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure they are, ilidar
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: depends on the server :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: by default, most web servers are case sensitive
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: iis by default is not, but can be turned on
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: aaaah love it, thanks a bunch you guys! i'm ganna try it out
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: linux question:  how do i remove an aliased IP from an interface  ?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: if any tf people are awake - anyone remember a function for reversing the order of a list?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Okie ignore me - /help reverse
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Remind Hargreaves blushes.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blacklight Tech: does anyone know where i can get like a lvl gain plugin for mushclient that tells me the time it took to lvl and pracs/trains gained and stuff?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkseid Tech: any ideas why a pc would start humming non stop
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Overworking it.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blacklight Tech: over heating?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nerioth Tech: Is it high pitched, low pitched...does it sound like a fan
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkseid Tech: i suspect its a fan
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkseid Tech: but it would be tough to prove it - ive never had this problem before with any other pc
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkseid Tech: ive shut it down twice to stop it and i wont stop
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkseid Tech: its a low hum at times and a loud hum at others
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nerioth Tech: Have you tried hitting it with a can of air?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkseid Tech: not quite sure
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkseid Tech: no i havent tried that lemme give it a shot
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nerioth Tech: Make sure to power down first...
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkseid Tech: ok i ll shut it down and pull it out of its spot
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkseid Tech: bbiab
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkseid Tech: k ill try the can of air - bbiab
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: whats the size of a favicon susposta be?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Type favicon in Google.  Go to a website that transforms images to favicons.  They'll do it all for you.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkseid Tech: ok its quiet now but im not sure why precisely
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkseid Tech: heheh
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkseid Tech: so thanks to all who helped me with my fan problem
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkseid Tech: or noise problem or whatever the hell it was
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkseid Tech: may just be too cold
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: I'm thinking that's an unusual and deliberate misspell of darkside ... 
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Did you ever have trouble sleeping?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkseid Tech: no its actually a DC comic book character
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkseid Tech: dates back a ways
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: So you've not used that as a character name before?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkseid Tech: no sir i havent
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Remind Hargreaves nods.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkseid Tech: dc comics - was a major enemy of superman
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Ah I never got hugely into the DC comics thing
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: not that I was any more into Marvel :D
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkseid Tech: i was looking for a comic book character name i didnt think would be used
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkseid Tech: something in the fantasy realm that isnt common
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Nah not a chance - you can pick the most obscure name out of a book and somewhere, someone will have used it
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hail! Ceasar Tech: Heck, you can even misspell a historical figure and someone will have used it :(
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkseid Tech: well im thinking this one unless it may have been deleted
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: That's why I don't use books for my name. :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkseid Tech: yeah ceasar explain that
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkseid Tech: sheesh
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: yup ... my name is my own :P 
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkseid Tech: why not imalush imalish
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: shimila
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: it's a name not a description?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkseid Tech: i suppose but it could be either in MUD terms no?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkseid Tech: trying to decide whether i need chats window or not
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: So I google for Imalish ... do you speak Russian?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: nope
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: me neither so I can't tell you about those pages your name appears on :)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: google translator to the rescue ?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: I'm not that bothered, it's your name not mine ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Remind Hargreaves grins mischievously.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkseid Tech: okie dokie
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkseid Tech: i think ive got it right now
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkseid Tech: nice mushclient setup - it finally works
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkseid Tech: oh sure now the PC is quiet again
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkseid Tech: im still not sure what the hell happened
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkseid Tech: damm that noise
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkseid Tech: grrr
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkseid Tech: anyone know how to quiet a loud fan on a PC?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkseid Tech: i havent owned it that long - and ive never had this problem with any pc
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hail! Ceasar Tech: well, first I'd check for dust
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: replace it, the bearing are about to fail
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkseid Tech: i air blasted it
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkseid Tech: it doesnt make the noise all the time
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkseid Tech: just sometimes
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkseid Tech: its cold in the room i dont know if that affects it
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: cold is generally better for a pc
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkseid Tech: very strange then
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: tapping, air blast etc... will keep it going for another week or 2, but it's still about to fail... replace in now before you get heat damage worth a lot more that 10$ a fan would cost
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: well within reason - if you're dressed like you're on an artic expedition, that might be too cold
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkseid Tech: if i knew how to replace it i would
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkseid Tech: i cant even open the silly thing
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkseid Tech: its kind of like a humming sound
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkseid Tech: but not too loud
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: first question - is it a laptop or a desktop?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkseid Tech: first answer desktop
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Remind Hargreaves grins evilly.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkseid Tech: ive owned it less than a year
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: opening it is easy then - there are little screws
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkseid Tech: well these screws are weird
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkseid Tech: i know some of them look normal but not all of em
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: if it's less than a year old have the fan replaced under warranty
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkseid Tech: i suppose i prolly will have to
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkseid Tech: could it just be overheating?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: yeah less than a year - they sold you a lemon get it replaced
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkseid Tech: i mean i ve Never had this problem
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: don't open it :)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkseid Tech: ok i guess i can arrange for something this weekend
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkseid Tech: k thanks :)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: fans are a massive commodity item.... and they are all cheap shit from the back streets of shanghai
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkseid Tech: ill shut it down when im done with this thing
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkseid Tech: ok thanks for the assistance
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkish Tech: is there a way within zmud to write to a txt file?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Yes.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkish Tech: whats the command so i can do a help on the command?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: file and write are the commands you need
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: #FILE 1 whateverfile.txt;#WRITE 1 "whatever you want to write";#CLOSE 1
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: what about log?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkish Tech: okay
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You don't have to #CLOSE it. I do to prevent any other script from writing to the incorrect file.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: Syntax: #WRI n value [rec]
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: too slow, lol
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkish Tech: now does #file create the file if its not there?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Yes.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkish Tech: alright and if i were to just use a #file 1 aard.txt where ill it create? c:\aard.txt?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It creates it in your zMUD directory.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Are you just going to log the sessions, or actually just write certain lines?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkish Tech: caping pks into txt logs
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkish Tech: now i can choose where to put it by specifying c:\zmud\aard\aard.txt?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You can do that, yes.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkish Tech: alright
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkish Tech: man this is alot easyer than i thought
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You'd do #FILE 1 "C:\zMUD\aard\aard.txt"
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Wait till you do it before you decide it's easy ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkish Tech: lol the hardest part is prolly gunna be naming the files by day/month/year
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: not really.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: #FILE 1 C:\zmud\aard\aard01_23_2009.txt
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkish Tech: oooh can i use ../aard/aard.txt instead of including the entire layout?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Er...
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: #FILE 1 %concat("C:\zmud\aard\aard",%time(mm_dd_yyyy),".txt")
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You /might/ be able to use ../aard/aard.txt
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Never played with that.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkish Tech: well i know i used the wrong / \ in the question
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You may be able to use ..\aard\aard.txt, too. Not sure either.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkish Tech: but i mean in some things ive noticed you can use ..\ to say default directory + whatever is after 
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Brb. though.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: .. is above current directory...
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: you mean '.'
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkish Tech: ok with the %time function cna you use %time(mmyy)?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Yes.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkish Tech: just like that?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: %time(mmyy) will show up as 0109
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkish Tech: cool thanks
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkish Tech: and when i write something will i need to add a #CR to allow it to move to the next line or will it automaticly write on a new line
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It'll automatically write to the next line.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkish Tech: koO
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkish Tech: alright, so #file wont create folders?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: anyone have the strings that questor sends you when you get lucky qps, trains, trivs, and multiple pracs on quest complete ?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: test coming
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: CP Stats : 26 QPs 20393 gold 1 Trains From 1 campaigns.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: hah :) got it
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: Quest Stats : 3 Done 63 QPs 6 MCCP 3 Pracs 9948 Gold.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redreaver Tech: use gt?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: no i need rest of strings to trigger on for tracking the stats
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redreaver Tech: or echo
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: sry had to make sure that it goes to the correct channel
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: thats all im gonna throw out :)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gubernaculum Tech: what is the web address to go to once you reset your router to reinstall the firmware?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: anyone using davos cmud spellup script?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: any server admins on
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: just ask the question
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: if you could name one high risk policy issue non password related what would it be
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: high security risk policy
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: allowing users to operate computers
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ilidar looks around and whistles innocently.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir nods at Ilidar.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: the biggest problem i tend to see at my work is people catching viruses from spam email
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: using default settings would be my guess
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: tech i have to bring about 2 pages regarding this issue lol
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: you trust people here to do your homework for you!?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: nope, i was asking for ideas which i would then research and write a paper on it
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: identify an item that requires improved security. To clarify: you must identify a) one hardware and one software weakness or, b) one hardware and one policy weakness or, c) one software and one policy weakness. 
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: i have hardware issue created already, not for either software of policy
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: now*
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: wat about software that requires users to have sys admin level security to function day-to-day
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: you mean windows?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: yes
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: no
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Im your Huckleberry )
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kemper Tech: wahoo
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: acrobat on xp springs to mind
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kemper Tech: i got debian on my g1   im mudding with tintin right nw on my phone
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i do it with my hermes sometimes. it's really shitty
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tinyfugue FTW!
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: faenir that sounds good, i apprecaite the suggestion, going to go into that some more now thanks
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: good for you kemper, you must be a masochist to do so on a tiny screen and keyboard!
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kemper Tech: you knopw it
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: kb is fine, if you alias most stuff
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not masochist when it's the only option at times
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but the screen is 320x240, right?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: doubt anyone uses that as their primary access
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kemper Tech: yeah pretty small   its suprrisingly ook though
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: depends on the font
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: surely "only option" means you're out and about, so enjoy being out and about and leave mudding until you get home/work
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not always out & about for enjoyment
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kemper Tech: i dont have the internet at home   got rid of it and got this phone  
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i was at the countyside on christmas and i used neigbours wireless to get my cards from santa through my hermes
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, kemper, use the phone to put the 'puter on the internet
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: then tether phone to a proper computer and really enjoy mudding :)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kemper Tech: thats next 
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: i need some help
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yep
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: exery time i kill my quest mob it appears instantly again
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hah. which mob?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: some MOBs do that
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: a spirit
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the first kill is fine for Questor tho
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: type "quest info"
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: i know it says i havent killed it yet
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: ive killed it 5 times
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: wrong mob then
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did it have [TARGET]?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: hunt 2.mob
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: (Hidden) (Red Aura) A spirit is here looking for a body. [TARGET]
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Are you kidding me? This guy has done 117 quests and doesn't know that?!
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you sure you're the one killing it?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: yes
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: where is this?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you sure a mob isn't assisting?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: gate to me
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can't, that's why I asked where
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a prison room
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: desert doom
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: kill the spirit you need instead of the warrior spirit and you'll be done :-)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: it wont let me
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: l 2.spi, l 3.spi, etc
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: i know
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: wont let me
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: now you're fighting it
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: thanks abe
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: have a zmud script problem... this used to work along ago. i have a command that outputs to a different window, then when it sees a certain line, redirects back to the main window
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: it makes the new window, but it doesnt seem to be triggering the thing to redirect back to the main window
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sounds like what an automap script does
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: you sure you put the trigger in the new windows settings?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: ok, im back :-p computer died on me for a minute
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: it's not mushclient, zmud settings carry over to new windows
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: or at least, that's the way it used to work...
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: ah ha, never mind, you were right. had to edit the trigger in 2 places. never mind!
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dio Tech: is there i way to manipulate how big a line of text is (on mushclient)? im having a hard time fitting 3 boxes on screen, 1 for game 1 map 1 chatr
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dio, change font size
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dio Tech: im sorry but, whats the correct way to change font size?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: first try typing "initaard" to see if that helps with the appearance
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dio Tech: no...
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ok, then game -> configure -> output to play with the fonts
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stretcher Tech: can anyone help me with the zmud client, ive got a blank box in the middle of my screen
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: anyone have any ideas why my xp computer screen goes black and the computer locks up after about 30-45 mins of being on?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: im relatively sure it's not overheating
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: that sounds like a 'get a new CPU" problem
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: i agree, but i like this one :-p
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: it is 6.5 years old, but i treat it well so it still works great
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: except for this new problem
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: mine is +10 years old but it dosent do wut u just said
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: you have overheating
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: ive felt the air coming out the back and inside of the case... it's not overheating
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hail! Ceasar Tech: maybe the thing that DETECTS overheating is broken? :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: also, i can shut it off and turn it back on and it works for another 45 mins or so
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: if it was overheating, it would shut off much more quickly. also, bios logs would probably show it
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: you have overheating
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: have you went into bios and checked the CPU temps thru it?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: no, i can install speedfan though to monitor temps
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: but im pretty sure it's no overheating :-p
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: does it do it if you leave the side of the case off ?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: yes
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: try the program combofix
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: have you cleaned all your heatsinks and fans of dust ?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: yup, first thing i did when i opened the case
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: does it do it if you boot from a boot cd ?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: 2nd thing i did was to remove all non-essential components
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: havent tried that yet
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: im going to steal some ram from work on monday and see if that does anything
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: how about the fan speeds, check the voltages, if the PSU is more than 10% out of spec on 3.3, 5 and 12 maybe it is the problem.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: put a knoppix boot cd in it and see if it still does it... that will tell you if it's software or hardware
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: i also have linux on my 2nd hard drive, i can try booting to that
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: yeah
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: although that froze earlier when i started it and it tried to upgrade my hardware config (after i removed some old stuff, like modem and tv tuner card)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: but i can tell it to skip that
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: hmm, the winlogon service is taking up a lot of cpu time...
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dega Tech: this might not be the right channel but anyone know how to set a trigger wherer I wont get kicked out of the mud for long periods of time like me going afk.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tell your client to hit return every 10 mins
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dega Tech: and how do I do that? im using the aardwolf client and im new to it heh
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: autotick + trigger
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to game -> configure -> timers
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'm sure there's a plugin for it on the forum somewhere
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: leave it on 'every interval', select 10 mins
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: put your cursor in the send part and just hit return before clicking OK
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a bit too simple to need a plugin ;-)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dega Tech: thanks abe hope that will help
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd also recommend the spellup plugin from http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=8780 (it's the page that actually gives lots of info about the spellup plugin linked on Aard's site)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: ok, so im temporarily booted into linux. and decent clients for it? :-p
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: TinyFugue
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: none that don't also consume your soul
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tinyfugue is the best client on all OSes :-)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faenir Tech: TF or tintin
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Or MUSHclient on Wine
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: i dont spentd that much time on 
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: on linux, so i dont want to put a lot of time into installing wine and crap
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: if TF works on linux, i may try that
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I'm on my home network, and DNS lookups seem to be really slow on my Linux computer, but normal/fast on my Windows computer-- any ideas why?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what do each of them have set as their resolvers?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: It's a fresh install too-- about an hour old, but it had this problem before I reinstalled Linux
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Let me check! (and let me also figure out how to check!)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if the linux box is set to use itself first, but it isn't running bind, then it'd need to wait until that request timed out to move on to the ISP's
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: In resolv.conf, it says the nameserver is 192.168.0.1 (which is my local router)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that the same thing your windows box is set to use as primary?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: If I'm looking at the right thing, Windows is set to "Obtain DNS server address automatically", heh
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: command prompt, ipconfig /all
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: will say what it got from dhcp
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Ah ha
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Yes, DNS Servers is listed as 192.168.0.1
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, interesting then
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: As well as default gateway and dhcp server
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Try 4.2.2.4 for DNS
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that still wouldn't explain the inconsistent behavior tho...
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Btw, this problem only started after I recently fixed my wireless for my laptop which involved resetting the router-- but if my router is misconfigured, I'm not sure why it would have the bias against Linux
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: And I'll try that IP for DNS - just a sec
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Do I need to restart any services after changing the DNS address?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Probably need to flush your cache
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: You in doze or nix?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Linux
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Hmm... type ifconfig, and see what it shows as DNS
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, we just did that...
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Not since he changed the DNS IP
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: We did it on Windows-- I don't think ifconfig shows the DNS servers though
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Hrm, I thought there was a way to get it to...
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: Anyone know how to configure Mushclient so it stays goddam put?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: anyone familiar with assembly programming here?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: would anyone know why when i close my laptop lid it starts up a program? could it just be that the lid is somehow hitting the quick launch button
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alturis Tech: is thier any way to use compression on the Jaba Mud Client?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoWar Tech: hi
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoWar Tech: can i ask a question here?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: Yes
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoWar Tech: sorry to disturb you
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoWar Tech: i am trying to make more characters, to play with multiple accounts
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoWar Tech: i thought about reading the help, and i found out that it is ilegal
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: It's illegal to be logged into them at the same time.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoWar Tech: may i ask, why?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: It's perfectly OK to have multiple characters.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoWar Tech: i thought it could be much of fun if i could have a group
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yuudoku Refinnej chuckles politely.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: If you want to group, ask people around your level range.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoWar Tech: i read everything about, and i understand that it is not possible to do this
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ologn Tech: you can not exchange items, gold ect. between your own characters and can not have them on at the same time :p that's just the way it is here
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoWar Tech: ok boss. i am sorry to broken the rules
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoWar Tech: i had much fun here, must fly into another place so
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnistar Tech: check out help wangrp
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoWar Tech: btw, do you know another mud that is allowed multiple accounts?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: To be logged in multiple times at once?  No, I don't know of any.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoWar Tech: that is very strange so...
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: yep, but it's not very fun :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoWar Tech: thanks for 'help wangrp'
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoWar Tech: that depends on what you think it's fun... i think it will improve my gaming experience
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoWar Tech: another quesition, before i go
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoWar Tech: i found on help this:
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoWar Tech: 'help triggers'
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoWar Tech: i see that this mud have too many rules, can i use triggers or no?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenar Tech: it depends on the trigger
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: the rules are covered in help triggers.. do read it?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: help botting is a good read tooo
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoWar Tech: i am not english native, i am portuguese, and i don't fully understand
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenar Tech: any specific questions you have can be answered
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoWar Tech: i do not bot, i have triggers...
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: any trigger that helps you while you are not sitting at the keyboard is illegal
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenar Tech: triggers to do what?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoWar Tech: aaaah. go it now! 
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoWar Tech: i have triggers to heal, kill, eat, cast stuff
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenar Tech: triggers to kill generally aren't legal
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: what do you mean by a trigger to kill?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoWar Tech: so i am legal
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoWar Tech: i am gonna explain:
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoWar Tech: i type kill monster
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoWar Tech: the attack starts, then, my triggers apply more attacks, so i don't need to type again and again
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: as long as you don't have triggers that look for mobs and then kill them, you're ok
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenar Tech: be careful not to go afk in a room with aggro monster. i use an alias to do something similar rather than triggers
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoWar Tech: after the monster is dead, i usually need heal, so i heal also with trigger
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: Ehh... that's starting to tread the line, since you could walk away and do the whole battle and healing without being there.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenar Tech: if you went afk in a room with aggro monsters and your triggers kept healing/attacking the monsters
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenar Tech: that would qualify for botting
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoWar Tech: i don't go afk, i simply quit
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: the triggers don't attack monsters, but if you stay in an aggro room, it's basically botting
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it would be legal, if you are never caught afk in such rooms
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoWar Tech: when i play i am here, having fun... i don't want to be level 999
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenar Tech: i'm just saying, be careful never to afk in an aggro room
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ologn Tech: doesn't find it supprising that NoWar built an alt to ask these questions.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if you do though, and an imm chances on you, it's no questions asked :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoWar Tech: hey ologn lol
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: Actyally, Redryn, they will ask questions, that's how they check for bots. ;-)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoWar Tech: i think i am gonna leave the game so... 
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ologn Tech: People who have been here for less than an hour don't already have triggers to damage/heal :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenar Tech: sure they do, if they use them on other muds
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: less than 0 hours online?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoWar Tech: i have
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ologn Tech: plus you said you had an trigger to heal, when as a level 1 warrior you don't have a skill to do so
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoWar Tech: allaways in the first minute
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenar Tech: i think he means he always uses these triggers on muds :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoWar Tech: i will script it, in the first time i need something
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: so how do you heal, nowar?  =P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoWar Tech: this way, there is a config option to show extra stats after the prompt
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoWar Tech: the trigger checks if currentHP < maxHP
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoWar Tech: if so, then type 'reat wounds'
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't need to check current/max...one of those numbers is hp% ;-)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoWar Tech: 'treat wounds'*
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoWar Tech: lol, thats true, i found it later
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoWar Tech: isn't it legal to do it? i do not bot. i am here all the time
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: its illegal to auto attack, auto heal is fine if im not mistaken
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenar Tech: yes, auto heal is ok, just as stated make sure you never do afk.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoWar Tech: anyway if i can't play with my other chars at the same time, and play in group this way... i will have to: hack or leave
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, there used to be an explicit paragraph in help botting about autoheal, giving the caveat about aggroes
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: well youve now been flagged
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoWar Tech: so, i am not hacker, i will play in group till you delete my char? or should i go now?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenar Tech: probably better to just leave if you're planning on multiplaying anyway
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: yea
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're just going to ignore the rule, then just leave
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Dashiell Tech: You should leave now, since you may not play your characters in a group.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoWar Tech: i think my heal is not ilegal, it just heals me after a combat, there is no trigger to check if a monster is biting me
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenar Tech: it sounds fine so far.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoWar Tech: ok boss, sorry to bother you all
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: multiplaying is different from botting
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Dashiell Tech: Botting is killing mobs using triggers
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoWar Tech: i know, i am not gonna bot in multy... lol i just want to explore this ideia
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Dashiell Tech: Multiplaying is having more than one character on at the same time.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Dashiell Tech: You may not multiplay.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Dashiell Tech: Period.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoWar Tech: i understand that :) totally. so i leave. don't be mad
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Agent Dashiell sniggers quietly to himself, reflecting over an amusing thought.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Dashiell Tech: Mad. Hah.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: nobody's gonna say it?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ilidar blinks innocently.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenar Tech: why? he read the rules, decided he didn't like them, and leaves. no big deal :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: "We're all mad here."
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: i was certain someone else would say it
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Razor is agreeing with that Tenar person again...
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: can you do mass comments in vbscript?  like /* */  in javascript?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: try it?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: i know a single line comment is '  i'm not sure what to do to comment out multiple lines though
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: try the /* */?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ilidar shakes his head.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: alias w - sends west and formats a variable of lastdir or something to be west. you get triggered a "The door is closed" or whatever it sends and you send your lastdir variable. cheers!
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: rather you open <lastdir> and then move in the dir of lastdir :p
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hydrallics Tech: how can i set a trigger that opens any closed door in aardwolf...i have mushclient
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: tech -h 4
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mauler Tech: yes
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hydrallics Tech: hmm what?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: of course, if you type west, that won't fire :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: if ya need help translating that english/gibberish combination of instructions...just ask :p
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you were almost all of the way there already hydrallics, you just don't have your trigger text correct, and I already told you how to see what to put there
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: What do ya mean Abe?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hydrallics Tech: abelinc i did what you said but doing that makes the open command specific to doors with the same text...i want a command that i can put in to do any door that i come upon that says its closed
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I mean if your alias is 'w' and you type something other than 'w', your alias didn't fire :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Argot nods at you in agreement. 
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: who types 'west' though? :p
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so if you alias w to do it, and you ever type we, wes, or west, then you didn't set lastdir
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: and of course if you're running and encounter a door, that wouldn't do ya much good..
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Argot nods at you in agreement. 
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: haven't typed anything other than n,e,s,w,u,d for several years myself...
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: just use zmud and have it open the doors for you :)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hydrallics Tech: o nvm i will try to figure it out myself
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blacklight Tech: but they said they where using mushclient so they prob use the num pad to run arround
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Argot is tossing Yhogurk gquest tokens shouting, "Here Botty Botty Botty!..".
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: zmud doesn't do it any better than any other client
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's always a matter of knowing the trigger text, and setting output text
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: if you've mapped the place then zmud knows where doors are and so will open them for you
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which doesn't help in the least
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hydrallics, if you want it to match something other than "The door", then you need to use a wildcard, such as *
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'm pretty sure my old autohunt plugin will open doors for you. I wonder where I put it...
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, iirc gammon wrote an autohunt plugin
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: isn't auto hunting illegal?  it sounds way too bot like for me
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it isn't
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: if zmud opens the doors for you, how does it not help?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: autohunting's perfectly legal
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: probably should be, but that's an old decision from way back
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: I have aliases on my north/east/south/west to automatically open doors
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just can't end it with "kill <target>"
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: if your autohunt ends in kill, that's illegal
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah, it shouldn't be illegal
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: but just beeping your way to the mob and then standing there 
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: but I have the exits in my prompt, so I scan the exits line for stuff like [n], and if [n] is found, then it sets doornorth=1 else doornorth=0
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yhogurk, you stated yourself why it wouldn't help
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: then north checks for if doornorth==1, if so, open north
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: then ~n
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: crayze, that only works for visible exits
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but it's better than nothing
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: there is an autohunt plugin at http://geocities.com/swalecaardwolf which opens doors for you
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: Just reroll to shade and forget about it!
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: or if you do what I did, any hunt trigger will open doors for you, plus it'll work while you are not hunting =\
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: swalec's is also at http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=9046, and gammons with some tweaks can be seen at http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?action=add&bbsubject_id=6565&page=1
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can go to www.mushclient.com, click search, and find tons of plugins all ready to just load up and use
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, shadows still have to worry about it, they just trigger on a different message :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: the second one opens doors by trying them twice
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: mine checks first, using aardwolf tags, which I think is nicer
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: if anyone is interested I'll probably release a plugin for navigating mazes soon
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so yours is like crayze's...if the tags don't help, will yours still open?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: and another for doing shortest path speedwalks which I just got working tonight
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: no -- this is easy to work around, but I decided not to
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: as closed, hidden exits you might want to think about before you go through
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so it'll fail when it just gets the message that the door is closed?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: not fail, as such, it will just stop
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's called fail :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: you just type "open thing" then autohunt and it takes off again
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: as I said, I decided to leave this in by design
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: why?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does it open doors when not autohunting?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: well, no, it's an autohunt plugin
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then it still doesn't do what hydrallics was looking for...
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: the same technique would work, is what my point was -- it's about, say, 100 lines of code
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: anyway, feel free to look if you want, time for me to leave
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: 100 lines of code? my god.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it shouldn't be anywhere near that much
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: is there a plug-in that can pull out all the eq in a certain range?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkish Tech: uh oes guys
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkish Tech: im really starting to like my zune over my ipod
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ack!  take it back, the zune is taking over your mind!  (ban microsoft!)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i like my phone that's capable of playing music in any format and has virtually unlimited storage
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: my phone can play music in any format that I care to won..  :p
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: oops, "own"
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: zune play ogg?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: thats probably because you buy from itunes
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: has anyone here tried the windows 7 beta?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: was thinking bot it
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A rotten Potato Tech: yeah i love it
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: What about it, Fiendish?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: bout*
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I tried it..
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I want to know about the experience using it
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: like even though it's a beta is it worth trying out?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A rotten Potato Tech: it is vista-esk but it is very nice
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A rotten Potato Tech: extremely stable for me
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I haven't had much trouble with it at all. It's definitely worth trying out.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: is it like all the best bits of vista and xp combined?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: doze zmud work well with it?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Something like that, yeah. You still have UAC that you can disable.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: i'm fine with UAC that I can disable
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Quicklaunch is gone, though. They've replaced it with 'pin to taskbar'.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: The UAC isn't in your face quite as much
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A rotten Potato Tech: they have changed UAC a lot, they made it less invasive
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Also, taskbar slots don't take up a whole lot of space. Instead of the normal rectangle, you get something that's 25% of that.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Becuase they are big icons instead of little icons + text
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Basically shows the icon. Mouse over the icon on the task bar, and it'll pop up a mini-window showing you what's in it.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: charn how is zmud on it? or do you use Cmud
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: And grouped taskbar items will stack up instead of showing 3 Whatever. For instance, if I have one firefox browser open, it shows [icon]. If I have two, it shows [icon]]. If I have three, it shows [icon]]] and so forth. :)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Hadar: I haven't had any issues with it using zMUD, but I'm more extensively into CMUD.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkish Tech: i kinda wanna go back to cmud, the temp variables are so nice!
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i mean the only read problems i had with zmud and vista are the settin compability and when using vista theme when i get near the top of the screen it bugs out
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}-SABU- Arystul Tech: bleh i put XP on my laptop which originally came with vista, and now my built in webcam even with drivers doesn't work, nor does my scroll bar on the touch pad :(
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: whenever i send my computer to sleep and close my laptop lid my toshiba move viewer starts up
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: heh. you need to find out what the hardware REALLY is and then get drivers
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: everest is a good tool. then you can driver hunt.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: i like the part when his grandma and roomates come to his work and they're like i guess we do ride him pretty hard
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: yeah mis... grandmas boy
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Get ur Hotcakes Tech: Can someone recommend a good mac mud client? I'm running windows 7 JUST for zmud :/
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sekhen Tech: tinyfugue
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there isn't one
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there aren't any decent Mac-like MUD clients...I use and love tinyfugue, but it's not something MacMacs would like ;-)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: tinyfugue or tintin++, maybe
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: tintin++ is terrible
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: zmud and mushclient are better than any macish clients available
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I hear that all the graphical mac clients (Cantrip and Atlantis) are terrible
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but if you need a GUI-style client, mush in one of the parallels-type things would probably be best
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: parallels, crossover, fusion, just wine/darwine, etc
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Get ur Hotcakes Tech: Well I have a registered copy of zmud.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: zmud runs in parallels
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Get ur Hotcakes Tech: Just don't like having to switch just to mud.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sekhen Tech: most unix clients should work on mac... check out freshmeat.net and sourceforge.net
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Get ur Hotcakes Tech: I ran crossover w/ zmud. It was laggy as hell.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unix clients will work fine on MacOSX, just most people using Macs use them for ease of use, rather than the power of unix ;-)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: crossover is pretty buggy
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Get ur Hotcakes Tech: I use mac for the hardware.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Get ur Hotcakes Tech: not the software :p
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik sits down and thinks deeply. 
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that's pretty funny
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Get ur Hotcakes Tech: Well at least the new unibody macbooks.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're on the geeky type and like Terminal.app, then check out tinyfugue
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Get ur Hotcakes nods.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but get gcc first so that you can compile it
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: otherwise, stick with zmud or mush in an emulator
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sekhen Tech: maybe i should develop a zmud-like client for mac...  o wait, probably no money in it... lol
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: people keep trying and then abandoning the idea
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkish Tech: isnt there a wine like service for mac?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sekhen Tech: it couldnt be hard to take TF and put a GUI wrapper on it for the mouse pushers
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, wine ;-)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkish Tech: hehe
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkish Tech: i thought it was using a different name on the mac
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there is a gui wrapper for it...it sucks
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sekhen Tech: hurm
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's lots of names for it, but they're just installers, not different wines
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: like darwine
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkish Tech: and you can simply run z/cmud in wine, just need the windows fonts for it ti look right
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sekhen Tech: too bad i dont have a mac to dev on... i kinda wanna look into this now
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkish Tech: i was doing that in ubuntu for a while
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'd suck until you devoted 3 years to it anyway :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sekhen Tech: well i have a mac, but it's a G3, and it's running debian, lol
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all decent clients are 10+ years old
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkish Tech: then wine zmud up on that bitch
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mushclient is open source now. all you have to do is take the windows api calls and convert them to cocoa
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: how hard can it be
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You fall to the floor laughing at Ol' Dirty Fiendish's remark.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sekhen Tech: mushclient is OS, wow i didnt know that
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's been for quite a while, yeah
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oss*
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sekhen Tech: umm mushclient is freeware, no sourcecode is avvailable, according to the web site
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: look harder
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=8971
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: It should probably be labeled as free software instead of freeware, I suppose
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akilos Tech: anyone know if we able to change font in mushclient
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: akilos, game -> configure -> output
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saderix Tech: can someone help me with the paragraphs on my screen?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: paragraphs?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saderix Tech: for some reason my paragraphs descriptions look like this EX:  The walkway beneath your feet ia a work of artistic genius colored stones                                                      form an image of a wolf.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saderix Tech: this is what i see on my screen 
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saderix Tech: the words jump down a line half way through 
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what client?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saderix Tech: Mush 
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try right-clicking in your window and changing the "Wrap output" setting
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saderix Tech: to what number? its now on 66
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saderix Tech: thank you that worked
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: how do i get IE 7 out of full screen mode?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skrad Tech: F11
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Try pressing F11?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: thanks
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eternal Anguish Tech: f11
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eternal Anguish Tech: bah stack :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skrad Tech: lol yw
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brother Atreidess Tech: anyone know much about wireless networking?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i know a bit
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brother Atreidess Tech: I got fios recently, and I'm having a lot of trouble getting a good wireless signal in my den
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: i want fios
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brother Atreidess Tech: I bought the wireless card that matches the router, but it's still a weak signal (rarely get above 6mbits on a 20mbit connection). Any tips for improving signal?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: how far is the den from the router? are theere walls in the way?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: heh. first - i'd use cable
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: move your router closer to the den
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brother Atreidess Tech: perhaps 30 feet, but yes walls and no can't move the router closer :p
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: tried changing band?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brother Atreidess Tech: probably 20 feet really
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: could go out and buy a repeater if you can't move the router
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brother Atreidess Tech: was thinking more in terms of height of router/adapter and antenna positioning
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: yeah check if there are other peoples wireless on the same channel interferign with yours
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: sniff the local networks and see where the load is the smallest
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brother Atreidess Tech: from what I read, repeater doesn't work with aciontec
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: then use the band/channel that looks like a wasteland
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: also if your have a 2.4Ghz phone they interfere with each other
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: most people go with default so it can get crowded
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brother Atreidess Tech: and what about powerline adapters?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brother Atreidess Tech: I have a couple of cheap ones the cable company gave me, and I got 11mbit.. is it worth buying more expensive ones?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brother Atreidess Tech: or will they still be limited (my house is 20 years old)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you say you're rarely above 6Mbit, are you talking about the negotiated speed of the wireless NIC (when you double-click the icon in systray) or what you experience when downloading?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if the latter, plug straight into the router to see if it's your wireless being slower, or if that's just the throughput to the sites you're accessing
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brother Atreidess Tech: download experience, just running bandwidth meters
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brother Atreidess Tech: I get 20.5mbit from the router
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: these are 802.11b cards? you said something about 11Mbit
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: damn... what kind of access do you have... like 20 OC3's?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dagas, fios fiber optic
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brother Atreidess Tech: the card is 802.11g/b, 54mbit
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: i have a fiber fed backbone into me... and most i have ever seen is about 9Mb/s
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brother Atreidess Tech: the router is 802.11g/b for sure, may also be n (not sure)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akilos Tech: off
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, that was the powerline that you were talking about for 11Mbit
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how about when you stand in the room with the router? better?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if yes, then it's likely rf being blocked somewhere...if not, then it's more likely interference
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as in other signals, as opposed to structural
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brother Atreidess Tech: hrmm need to test with laptop, but I know adjusting the antennas has changed strength, so I assume it's signal strength
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brother Atreidess Tech: I guess my best bet is just to go to best buy, buy the adapters, and if they suck return them :p
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: our place is a couple hundred years old, I have a cheapo router on the first floor and can surf on the 3rd floor, but don't do downloads from up there ;-)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brother Atreidess Tech: I'm mainly concerned with packet loss... I use an internet phone, radio and so on
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brother Atreidess Tech: the phone occasionalls has signal issues (radio is fine) but during baseball season I watch streaming video, and the software is sensitive to any disruptions
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phlox Tech: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,482761,00.html - maybe google stock would be a good investment
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: i would not touch google stcok with a 10 ft pole
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Life is Meaningless Tech: hmm does windows vista have a traceroute
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: anyone knows how to disable the windows map output?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: on the mushclient
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: windowed map output i mean*
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: automap (small) or bigmap (big)?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: the automap
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can tell the bigmap to stop popping to the front by typing "bigmap auto off"
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: i want it back on the main screen D:
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to turn either of them off fully, go to file -> plugins
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: ah ok thanks (:
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's an FAQ on the site where you downloaded the client that tells you stuff like this ;-)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: oh 
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aranair P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: thanks!
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/play/clientfaq.htm, with one question being "How do I disable a specific window?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: found it thanks lol
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lolderix Tech: how come the map doesn't work when im in the academy basement?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: define doesn't work
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: anyone know how to get media center on vista business
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sekhen Tech: sounds like the sort of think Ms dont want you to do
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you don't, huckleberry
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's not part of vista business
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: Cyberlink do a very good 3rd party version though, called PowerCinema
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: i know this
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sekhen Tech: or just use vlc
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why ask, then?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tigernuts prods Im your Huckleberry into action!
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: because i wanted to add it
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: vlc is a completely retarded solution
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sekhen Tech: it works for me
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: upgrade to vista ultimate is another solution
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: powercinema is prolly the simplest/cheapest solution
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sekhen Tech: in fact i recently went even further backwards, i hate most modern media players... i got winamp v2.95 and i use that now for video and sound
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sekhen Tech: and i use vlc for dvd's
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Dashiell Tech: shrug, I use media player 11, works fine for what I use it for
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Dashiell Tech: media player 11 coupled with ffdshow works great
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sekhen Tech: yeah i have ffd
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Dashiell Tech: I also downloaded CyberDVD or something like that, mp accesses that for dvd decoding and I don't need to use the free trial :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it is slightly odd that m$ doesn't include the codecs for playing movie dvds
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: because the EU and S Korea wouldn't let them?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why do the EU and S Korea let Apple and Linux do it then?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: don't ask daft questions, Linux and Macs do not have a monopoly
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: irrelevant
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sekhen Tech: which linux distros come with dvd support ?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: some non-commercial ones
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: you can apt-get support
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sekhen Tech: i thought most didnt do it for legal reasons
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: they just put a disclaimer generally
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: in my limited experience anyway
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: my experience tells me that os's ought to be subscription based
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: OS's ought to be commodity items
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they are
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: what are you smoking? the ratio of OS/hardware keeps on rising and you call that commodity?!
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it'll never be more than 1/1
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: 1 os per hardware?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: i dual boot
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: your personal preference
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: so thats 2/1
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so are you suggesting we should make it illegal for you to have a dual boot?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: no
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: when did i say that?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: then i can't see how the ratio really  matters
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: price ratio, pedants
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: price ratio?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: i was simply stating that mine isnt 1/1 like you said
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nogs, menace, i'm just not sure what yoghurt is suggesting
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: outlook express ftw
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sekhen Tech: i have had tripe boot systems, that doent include boot cd's, lol
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: the tripe ones must be windows :)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sekhen Tech: oh and screw subcription OSes...  subscribe to updates maybe... but then why pay for updates to fix something that was relased broken, usually knowlegably
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: does zmud intepret python/
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It might, if you have it installed. Can't be sure, though.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I know CMUD is capable of using any language that is in the Windows Host.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murlen Tech: i am new here, i hear there's scripts for spelling up. is there one someone can recommend?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus peers around himself intently.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Where is that spellup script for MUSH? :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: Is that truely awesome helper called Inicus around?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: try instant noodles
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: ok so this is a wierd one ...
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: i got back from class tapped my mouse pad on my notebook it the screen came up like normall then when black ...
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: oooowned
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: zmud does not interpret python
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: could not get it to come back up so i turned off the comp and restarted it gets to where there should be a login screen and goes black ...
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: zmud can only use languages that the microsoft scripting host can execute
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: whats it interpret? besides zscript
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: vbscript and javascript
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: ahhh
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: fiendish, I got some mushclient issues.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: goes black when after a second of trying to get into the bios... so now i have it plugged into a flatscreen and it works ... 
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: using any language other than zscript requires the use of #MSS see the help file
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what question?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: any one have any ideas on what might be wrong
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: My mushclient wont show some texts.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: which texts?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: like for example, Items sold on auction
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: see my fix for the channel capture script
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: or, Music channel and the names of the people postingo n em
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: thanks fiendish
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hold on. I'll give you a file to download
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: Capped mate
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: actually. see notes 4554, 4555, and 4556 on tech. if you can't make the changes yourself, then I'll give you a file to download
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: Chyea boy.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: Much love, instant.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ok I found the file
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://www.not-porn.com/Aardwolf/MUSHclientNewVersions/Aardwolf_chats.xml
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: LOL
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: Got suss?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: replace your chat plugin xml file with it
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: it says forbidden
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: does it?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hold on
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oh shit
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: Oooo you can swear on this channel?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ok try now
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no you can't
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: but you just said shit :<
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: i'm special
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: I am special too :D
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: only to your mom
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It's not wise to repeat the word that's not allowed on this channel, Instant.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Decisively Instant grins evilly at Alt. Helpa Charneus.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: but you know full well I am quite unwise :P
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: and if not unwise, really stubborn :D
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: somethign wrong with the xml, i cant view on my browser
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: don't view it. download it
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: just save the file
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: is this rly wise..
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: your browser can't parse mushclient plugin xml
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that's ok
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: did it help?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lolderix Tech: i need help. I just Logged back in after a couple hours and my plugins didn't load with it. how do i get the up if they do not load at start? Im on Mush Client
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what happens if you type initaard?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lolderix Tech: huh?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: did I stutter?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: can you studder in text?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lolderix Tech: dude whats up with that. i'm just asking for help
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blacklight Tech: iimm s su sur sure y to you c cc cann
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so try typing "initaard"
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and tell me what happens
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: try typing imataard
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish SMACKS Ariau upside the head, wonder what she did.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: sorry havnt tried mush
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish taps his foot impatiently. What can he be waiting for?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lolderix Tech: its pretty bad when you ask a tech problem on the tech assist channal and i get attitude from a jerk 
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's pretty bad when I suggest help and you don't take it
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but complain instead
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: or maybe the channel is for tech heads to tech out with each other, NOT for tech assist
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't even know what that means
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lolderix Tech: yea i typed in what u said and it sai "sorry Lolderix, I don't understand you"
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: we aren't your factory warranty mr refurbished computer
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so you should have said that earlier
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lolderix Tech: thats what the helpers at start told me tech is where i ask when i have a tech problem, sorry if i bothered you guys 
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you asked in the right place, lolderix
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: are you using the aardwolf mushclient package or one from mushclient.com?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and fiendish is trying to help
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ignore crayze
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lolderix Tech: aardwolf mushclient
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: when you typed initaard, you didn't include quotation marks did you?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lolderix Tech: no just initaard
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: interesting. go to file->plugins...
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you may need to manually load them in if you've created a new world file
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: ur using mushclient right?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the aardwolf plugins are found in ... uhh... hold on
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lolderix Tech: yea, i used the aardwolf muchclient
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: then it shouldve worked
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the only way I can think of that initaard does nothing is if the aardinit plugin doesn't load
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the only way I can think of for the plugin to not load is if you created a new world file to play in
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so now you can either go back to the default world file, or load the plugins manually
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lolderix Tech: what if i try to reload world 
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: only if you load the world that got installed by the installer
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lolderix Tech: ok brb 
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the plugins that load with the installer are all in C:\Program Files\MUSHclient\worlds\plugins\Aardwolf
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you can load them manually through File->Plugins...
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Littleman Tech: anyone familiar with hooking up wireless printers? seem to be having trouble :(
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: ur hooking up wireless printers- theres your problem
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lolderix Tech: hey guys, ok i found out it said that the XML was an invalid path on all plugins that attempted to load
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that means you installed mushclient to a location other than the default
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: which really shouldn't be an option if lasher's going to hard code paths like that
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lolderix Tech: i thought i Installed it in my C:/program Files
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish shrugs helplessly.
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: either way. you can solve it by manually loading the plugins 
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lolderix Tech: ill try to reinstall it and see where the program installs at 
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: lasher wants to be able to access your computer, so u'd have to install it there by default
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: get off my channel, ariau
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lolderix Tech: yea true 
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lolderix Tech: brb 
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lolderix Tech: Thanks Fiendish for helping me. I got it back 
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkish Tech: since your not supposed to use glass cleaner on an lcd monitor, is there any special cleaner you need or just a damp rag with a lil soap?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ariau Tech: "pledge" shoudl work 
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: you can get lcd cleaning fluid (usually very expensive), i just use plain water and glasses (spectacles) cleaning cloth, for stubborn grime i use a bit of detergent (diluted with water of course)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: and i don't think pledge is a very good idea
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkish Tech: thats what i was thinking yho, i just dont have the glases cloth
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: turpentine gets the job done
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i hate installing drivers
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wulfbane Tech: i'm using mushclient... I have a trigger to 'open down' when i see the room name 'The Crack Continues'... the trigger text is a regex that reads '^The Crack Continues$' .... any idea why this trigger is being triggered twice when I enter the room?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: roomdesc?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wulfbane Tech: i only see the command 'open down' issued once if i scroll up, but for some reason, it does it twice
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tage mapnames
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err tags mapnames
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wulfbane Tech: hmmmm, ok that may be it
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: sense
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wulfbane Tech: it works like it should, just one time, if i am in that room, and i type look... but if i'm not in same room, then enter the room, it does it twice
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you type look, it doesn't display the map again
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wulfbane Tech: ok, yep ur right
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wulfbane Tech: thx
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wulfbane Tech: i'll just change trigger to some piece of text in the room desc
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wulfbane Tech: that should do it
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do you display desc every time you enter?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wulfbane Tech: what you mean? room descriptions?
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wulfbane Tech: they on all the time
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can also turn on tags roomnames, then trigger on {rname}The Crack Continues
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "brief"
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: glance is a nice command to avoid room descriptions when you want to look btw
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: most people only see room descriptions when they've never been in a room before...brief 1
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wulfbane Tech: hmmm... i usually just leave the room descs on... does that add more lag to server? i got a T-1, so it doesn't really bother me on this end
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i think you're okay :)
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nothing the server can't handly
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err handle
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wulfbane Tech: kk kewlies
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wulfbane Tech: thx
T1/r4/2009-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-)
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: anyone have a preference on dvd to avi conversion
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: preferably on a mac
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: Anyone have a preference for an AVI to DVD conversion tool for pc?
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: imtoo works
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: but sometimes quality is ify
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I like handbrake
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: thanks for the suggestions .. will check it out
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: is it possible to create multiple bullet points  per line with word?
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: yes with TAB.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Patton Tech: I for got the command to get rid of this {stats}49/35,53/35,66/35,44/30,55/35,53/30,100,100,100,84,72,
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: tags off?
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Patton Tech: thanks
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tags off will turn that off as well as things like {chan ch=tech}
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Patton Tech: thanks..I was playing around with mushclient and back to zmud
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'll remember which of the tags were on, so if this is a temporary client (or lack thereof), it's good to use, then tags on when you're back at home
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rakelos Tech: Can someone please help me set up a certain trigger?
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what trigger?
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and what client
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rakelos Tech: Disarm trigger for Mushclient.  What's the text you receive when you're disarmed?
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: aard weapon or non aard weapon?
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rakelos Tech: Aard weapon
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: <mob> DISARMS you and you struggle not to drop your weapon!
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so and so DISARMS you and sends your name Of Weapon flying!
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rakelos Tech: Much thanks
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mine was for non-aard (was pasting before I saw the clarification ;-)
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OMG OMG OMG Argot *lix* yoo!
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Heh. You both set off my trigger. :P Damn. Thought I had that fixed correctly. :\
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Argot giggles at Alt. Helpa Charneus's actions.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blacklight Tech: so and so DISARMS you and sends your name Of Weapon flying
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can non-targetted thing disarm?
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blacklight Tech: hah
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: i.e. if I'm fighting 3 things, can thing2 disarm me when I'm aimed at thing1?
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: wait, what? did you just ask a question, Abelinc!?!?
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Blacklight - you know intentionally setting off the trigger of someone is illegal, right? :P
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: good question...
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: blacklight didn't have the !
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I know. :P
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blacklight Tech: owell my bad shouldnt have said that set off their trigger
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blacklight Tech: i thought it was funny
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if the non-pri-target cannot disarm, then you can decently anchor it...otherwise you really can't
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blacklight Tech: i could have spamed it
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It's funny until it happens to you and you start bitching about it because someone spams you with it.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I know that you can't blockexit someone if they aren't aimed at you
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Argot seems to think you have the right idea.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blacklight Tech: but i dont use triggers
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: And if you did, you'd probably be nochanned for it, at the least, for breaking the spamming rule. :P
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Honestly, Abelinc is tech I r sux0rz at triggers from here.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phlox Tech: I r sux0rz at triggers
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Argot giggles.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: Cute :P
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: is recall;s;give 100000000 coin argot
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: woops. :p
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You glare icily at him.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Agent Dashiell comforts Argot.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: forgot the from here. :P
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Agent Dashiell is tech :has a lousy bot from here.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Phlox has a lousy bot
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: Yeah, somehow threw in a semicolon which parsed :p
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Agent Dashiell rolls on the floor laughing at Phlox's antics!
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we already passed that point, dash :P
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Dashiell Tech: ah.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: We need to stop setting off people's triggers intentionally.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Dashiell Tech: missed that part.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Agent Dashiell peers intently at Alt. Helpa Charneus.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Dashiell Tech: Why?
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mostly because it's against the rules
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Agent Dashiell sniggers quietly to himself, reflecting over an amusing thought.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: Quick, spam Charneus with disarm msgs :p
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I did that one because I didn't think anyone still had that pattern active
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Dashiell Tech: That means Phlox is an alt, because that pattern was gone before he created
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah, it still works
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: at 100%, that pattern would still work fine
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: that's assuming a lot
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: (was aimed at Dash, lagged)
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Agent Dashiell raises an eyebrow.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Argot backstabs the fashion consultant with his EVIL fake dagger!
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Agent Dashiell . o O ( You are confident that $n is $d from here. )
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Agent Dashiell . o O ( s/confident/certain )
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: woops, dash not fash
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Dashiell Tech: Ah. I have it at 100%
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phlox Tech: why wuld someone think that in the 1st place..?
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: almost certain as well
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Dashiell Tech: You are almost certain that mob is up from here.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Dashiell Tech: That's it.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Meh. I'm just waiting for someone to do a 'So and so is #KILLALL from here' to really screw someone over.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Agent Dashiell rolls on the floor laughing at Alt. Helpa Charneus's antics!
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Argot chuckles at Alt. Helpa Charneus's joke.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Dashiell Tech: I've done that.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Bye bye aliases, bye bye triggers, paths, all your work. :D
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Agent Dashiell nogs at Alt. Helpa Charneus. Freaks!
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: There's a command that deletes all of that?
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Dashiell Tech: Yes. #KILLALL
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Yep.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: zMud is strange :p
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Dashiell Tech: Your face is strange.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: yes, that's a given
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: I AM playing Aard :D
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: p.s. your nigerian gentleman gets the job done, thx ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: ooo i just typed #KILLALL
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: ... good thing my backup was done like an hour ago cackel
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phlox Tech: I r sux0rz at triggers
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Phlox has a lousy bot
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You fall to the floor laughing at Phlox's remark.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I think someone set him off on purpose.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Argot giggles.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phlox Tech: I r sux0rz at triggers
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Phlox has a lousy bot
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Whoever is purposely setting off his triggers, I'd advise you to stop now.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It is illegal to do so, even in tells.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hail! Ceasar is snog from here.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phlox Tech: I r sux0rz at triggers
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Phlox has a lousy bot
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phlox Tech: justme is testing
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phlox Tech: justme is testing
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: um
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: abusing triggers is illegal, you know
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Fiendish: Phlox has a poorly written trigger that Justme was testing to see how it was setting off. We complained to her that someone was abusing his triggers intentionally, but she had no idea how it was being set off.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: So, I told her how to set it off in the tell so she could see for herself.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: if they know the trigger can't they just a) turn it off? let me guess a hunt trigger that doesn't parse to make sure its a valid dir before executing the 'dir'.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Pretty much, yeah.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, all us tech peeps know it's the old hunt trigger
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seasoned Justme Tech: did this just make me a techie :P
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seasoned Justme wiggles her bottom.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You snicker with her about your shared secret.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, nah, I was contrasting us to you ;-)
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seasoned Justme winks suggestively.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: zmud?
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seasoned Justme Tech: thanks for the help tho.  and honestly thanks for all the help you all give to the players ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I've got it covered here.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is (north|south|east|west|up|down) from here. :-)
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: That's what I told him. He needs it for MUSH, though.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'll work fine in mush
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: check the box that says regular expression
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Yeah, that's right. :)
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or use the autohunt plugin that Gammon wrote
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Agent Dashiell sits down and thinks deeply. 
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Dashiell Tech: I never saw the point of being that lazy :P
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what lazy...autohunt?
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Dashiell Tech: Yeah :P
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's convenient when watching TV, at work, etc
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or just reading notes
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Dashiell Tech: shrug, I find it faster to just walk to the mob most of the time :P
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you know the SW, yes
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's always faster to go straight there, even with huntsmaster skill and wish
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Agent Dashiell nogs.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but I'm sure you know the speedwalks between all 30,000 rooms by heart :P
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Dashiell Tech: I don't even bother typing in the speedwalks most of the time :P
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phlox Tech: I'm fixing it
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You tickle Phlox.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Agent Dashiell wibbles at Phlox threateningly.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Haha. I was showing him how it was being set off, and I accidentally set off his trigger. Bah.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: anyone mind helping a c++ noob?
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: i can try, im a bit rusty on c++
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: i need to pass a class to instance into a function to use one of its functions but when i try it doesnt work
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: i tried just creating the class inside the function to and then accessing the method that way but it still doesnt work :/
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: http://pastebin.com/m65bce207
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: line 145-151
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: im used to java :(
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It wasn't the sky one. :P
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Mis.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phlox Tech: justme is testing
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phlox Tech: I'm fixing it
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phlox Tech: justme is testing
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phlox Tech: I'm fixing it
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Gotta love tell -h. :P
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, guess you're not done yet then :-)
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: phlox, for a basic autohunt, you just need the trigger pattern to be (at 100%) "is (north|south|east|west|up|down) fr-om he-re.$" (take out the dashes)...click "regular expression" in the checkboxes on the right
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the send part, put %1
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err, oops, you'll need the send part to do the %1, then hit enter, then hunt the target again
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in regexp, * doesn't mean the same as it does in glob...to get the same feature in regexp, use .*?
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and for the %1, %2, etc, they should be parenthesized
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Dashiell Tech: Abelinc is wrong. You need "You are almost certain that %1 is {north|east|south|west|up|down} from here."
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Agent Dashiell puts his finger in his mouth and says, "Oopsie! Did I do that?"
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Dashiell Tech: Well, anyway. I missed a quote in Abe's sentence.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Dashiell Tech: So he is right, after all.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Agent Dashiell . o O ( For once. )
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You snicker softly.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Agent Dashiell tickles you - hee hee hee. 
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so "(.*?) is (n|s|e|w|u|d) fro her.$" for the pattern, then "%2<hit enter>hunt %1" in the send
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, actually, do Dash's ;-)
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I use a variable for the MOB's name...if not using the variable, then the prepended text about being sure is needed to tell where the MOB's name starts
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: note that doing it this way, you'll eventually need 4 triggers as you go through a mort...1-50% are one message, 51-75% are another message, 76-99% are a third message, and 100% is the almost certain one
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the 100% one is the only one that ends in is blah form ehre.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: slashdot - windows 7 to come in multiple versions
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: big suprise, eh?
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: not really, you mean like xp, xp pro and stuff?
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i'm kind of upset they didn't include the 64 bit disc in each or sell it separately
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: cause i know 64 bit assembly is alot faster than 32 bit
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: it can mean less work, like intel made the core 2, and already had the 8 core one and up complete, then released it one at a time
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: then sell them each for 1000 bucks
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no i mean that we can start guessing what's the differense between 'starter' and 'basic'
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: oh, probably starter would have a more comprehensive help system, basic would just be like vista without the 3d stuff
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: or maybe the starter version will suggest you to kill your family because you bought a cheaper version
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: maybe 8=====> in the bumtox
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: they should include their visual studio free versions on their install cd's
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: at least you got a compiler then and can mess around if you're bored
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: if it was an honest world we'd be 20 years ahead in the junk we collect
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: and probably would take care of it too
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: today's task is to get to grips with Paypal IPN
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: hrm, any php gurus on?
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: not a guru, but i do use it
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm being a bit lazy: two arrays of the same length - any easy function for combining them so that $result[x] = $a[x].$b[x]?
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: i don't know of any builtin functions off hand, best you check the very well written manual
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: looks like you have to do it "manually" using foreach, or array_walk
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nogs
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i can do simple coding, i even enjoy it, but for some reason, i procastinate heavily
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alowishus Tech: Is there a site with some useful scripts/plugins?
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yes
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blacklight Tech: what cliant?
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alowishus Tech: Oh, for the mush/aard client
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blacklight Tech: got to the muchclient homepage has bunch of plugins,, just search for aardwolf
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alowishus Tech: Ok thanks
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Denglish Tech: Does anybody have problems with the MUSHclient and Vista?
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Denglish Tech: How would I go about fixing a constant "Access is denied" message that pops up. I need the MUSHclient to be able to have access to the program files.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Log on a different computer user?
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: install it in c: if installed in program files directory I believe you have that issue.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Denglish Tech: Oh.. is there a way to change the file without a reinstall?
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: What are you trying to do?
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: I don't believe so, sorry.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Denglish Tech: That's okay. Thanks for the help.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: note I'm just going by what I hear on tech. There might be forums somewhere for Mush that provide more information.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: look the mushclient forums for help on resolving issues with vista
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Denglish Tech: Hey Inicus, I was just trying to figure out how to let the MUSHclient access it's own files. I keep seeing a "Access is denied" dialogue box when it tries to write.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Denglish Tech: Okay. Will do.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Denglish Tech: Thanks
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: vista tries to be more "secure" but makes a complete mess of the security model
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: nod its like some 80s mainframe sorry can't do that :P Oh wait nobody liked those.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: "the security model"
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone would have thought you wrote it ;-)
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: though some good might come out of it. Companies tired of users getting pissed at things popping up those msgs might decide other OSes are a viable developement market.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: anyone knows why my winamp is at max volume along with my speakers and my windows audio settings but the sound that comes out is a fraction of the normal volume? no such problems with my videos on media player classic
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: vista?
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: nope xp
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: hrm, i know winamp is quieter than other apps on my xp too
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i put up with it
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: it used to be fine the day before..all of a sudden im having problems
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feiros Tech: you messed with the eq?
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: winamp's volume is unlinked from volume control ie lower winamp doesn't lower system so you're at 100% of what your system volume is.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: turn your speaker volume up!
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: haven't touched a single setting since the last time i used it..launched it and all of a sudden i can't hear a thing
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: speakers aren't the problem..my videos sound fine on another player
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's probably some linux fanboy been tinkering with it
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: isn't SSL support a default part of the PHP4 install?
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: i am scripting in the mush client thingy... i want to have a delay in setting off a command... so i do a "DoAfter(1, "calcexp")" in my script... problem is, "calcexp" is an alias... and it keeps saying "I don't understand" or "invalid command"... but its marked as an alias... how do i kick off an alias from withing a script or how do i make the client know that its an alias instead of a command to the mud?
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: anyone know or have any ideas?
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skril Tech: i just downlowded a mush client can someone show me how to use it?
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: c++ question:  im trying to get a percentage and display it to the console. game.lost and game.total are ints i get 0 as an answer from this print statement: cout<<setw(5)<<setprecision(2)<<right<<((game.lose/game.total)*100) how can i fix this?
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Secretary Timeghost Tech: put 1.0* (your int expression) / 100.0
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: thank you :) ill try that
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Secretary Timeghost Tech: basically, tell the compiler you want floating point where you want floating point and not rounded int ops
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Secretary Timeghost Tech: I tend to do it even more rigirously, i.e. if a and b are int, I'd do 1.0*a/(1.0*b)
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: yeah i was trying that out and seeing if there was a difference
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: its just odd how it turn out as zero instead of like truncating or something
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Secretary Timeghost Tech: game.lose / game.total is always <1 :P
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Secretary Timeghost Tech: conversion to int is not the same as rounding - it just drops everything past the floating point
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Secretary Timeghost Tech: so it can be 0 or 1, 1 only if games.lost = games.total
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: ahhh i see
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: that makes sense
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Secretary Timeghost Tech: you need the 1.0* for the numerator AND denominator btw
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Secretary Timeghost Tech: just did a quick test: float x1 = 1/2; float x2 = 1.0*(1/2); float x3 = 1.0*1/(1.0*2); printf ("%f, %f, %f
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Secretary Timeghost Tech: just did a quick test: float x1 = 1/2; float x2 = 1.0*(1/2); float x3 = 1.0*1/(1.0*2); printf ("%f, %f, %f\n", x1, x2, x3);
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Secretary Timeghost Tech: the expected result is 0.0, 0.0, 0.5 :)
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Secretary Timeghost Tech: though 1.0*1/2 also works to give 0.5 - but to avoid problems just make sure any integer expression is explicitly "made" a float within any calculation
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: wouldn't 1.0/2 also work?
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Secretary Timeghost Tech: Lechter - the original question is about having integer variables, say a and b, and doing a/b
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: Okay, gotya.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: the problem with that becomes rounding and significant digits, though, doesn't it?
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: say 1.0*1/3= 0.33333333333......
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Secretary Timeghost Tech: if you just do integer a/b, it doesn't ROUND, it drops everything past the floating point
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Secretary Timeghost Tech: 1/3=0
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: 1.0*1/3, though, should give you the decimal result
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Using a cast is probably a heck of a lot more understandable than "1.0*"...
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Secretary Timeghost Tech: so if int a=1, int b=3, a/b = 0
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: (and better anyway, since 1.0 is a floating point constant; you almost certainly want to use double for everything)
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Secretary Timeghost Tech: Erikson - not really, if you have a long formula I always found it WAY simpler to use 1.0*
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: I don't find it so.  And it's a lot less self-documenting.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Secretary Timeghost Tech: i.e. if I have a 150-char expression and a few ints sitting in nasty places, I just multiply them by 1.0 if there's no float in front of them and be done with it
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: But really, you want to force it to double anyway.  You get the extra precision, and it's likely to be as fast or faster.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Secretary Timeghost Tech: Erikson, example (variables given in terms of types): float*exp(int/int + float)
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Secretary Timeghost Tech: exp is a bad example tho, it expects a double argument so the compiler will auto-convert. But you get the idea
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Secretary Timeghost Tech: but now my turn :P Anyone got a good article on simple methods for interpolation of 3D fields defined on a Cartesian grid?
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Secretary Timeghost Tech: not looking for general methods involving big splines - the function is smooth, anything almost linear will do
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olympio Tech: i'm using the default client suggested on the aardwolf website
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olympio Tech: is there a way to get chat into a seperate window? i'm using the default client from the aardwolf website
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Balnarok Tech: Does anyone know if theres a way to disable the chat in the main window and only have it in the chat window?
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: Type 'chats echo off'
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Balnarok Tech: thanks
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: HappyDog Madcatz tells Balnarok he's very welcome.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aaloldar Tech: is there such thing as player specific aliases in MUSH?
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: can someone help with the installation of yashiro's spellup?
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you download it from fiendish's site?
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: yes
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: mmmm i just spent money and bought Adobe CS4 Master Collection (Windows)
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: is Adobe that overbloated software processor of pdf files
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You play the world's smallest violin for Xyliz.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir claps at your performance. 
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duralumin Tech: can anyone help me with some mushclient scripting?
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ask the question and probably :-)
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xyliz suspects that a lot of Windows software is deliberately inflated with spamcode to deter disassembling ands reverse-engineering
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duralumin Tech: I'm trying to figure out how to do this "kill all" command which automatically fights all the monsters in the room one by one
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't want to use a command that starts more than one fight
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duralumin Tech: err nevermind, its botting if there's a kill all :(
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no it's not
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's just not healthy
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it's not an area attack it is
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duralumin Tech: a kill all command that would let me kill one monster, and after i gain xp, kill another
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: that requires bot triggers
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duralumin Tech: is that illegal?
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: unless a popup appears that states click here to kill next mob
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duralumin Tech: i would like to do that to help my multitasking
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: may not use triggers to initiate kills
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: may use popups that request explicit user action to initiate kills
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duralumin Tech: yep i thought so, oh well
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: may use reminders that request explicit user action to initiate kills
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duralumin Tech: what kind of scripts/plugins do you use for mushclient
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duralumin Tech: im trying to find some helpful plugins, but the mushclient website is hard to navigate
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: archaic zmud here
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: search for "aardwolf plugins"
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duralumin Tech: so i just found gammon's consider script and i get unexpected symbol near '<' as an error
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are you getting that in your web browser?
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duralumin Tech: no i saved it and opened it using the scripts section of the mush client
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duralumin Tech: i'm also using the aardcustom client
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Izocinoc Tech: you have to install it as a plugin, not run it as a script
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duralumin Tech: ahh, how do i do that?
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Izocinoc Tech: go to file, plugins
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Izocinoc Tech: then click the add button
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duralumin Tech: aha! thanks!
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Izocinoc Tech: no problem
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: on the page where you get that script, http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=8847, it says "Then save that file in your MUSHclient plugins directory, and use File -> Plugins to install it."
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Izocinoc Tech: no problem
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ushiro Tech: Anyone know how can I change fonts in Mushclient?
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Izocinoc Tech: go to file->global preferences, and set the fonts on the default tabs. Or go to file->world properties and use the output or commands pages
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or have the window you're trying to change focused and do game -> configure -> output
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feiros Tech: Greetings tech, I have a question. Tried to make simple drinking trigger but its not working. Put "You start to feel thirsty." as trigger and "drink chal" at send. and Triggers are on..but nothing is working.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's not the message you get ;-)
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feiros Tech: hm I copied it on the trigger
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ## You start to feel thirsty.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: "## You are very dehydrated" "## YOu start to feel thirsty.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feiros Tech: You start to feel thirsty.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: Woops...keep hitting enter mid-sentence :'(
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in MUSHclient, by default triggers are "glob" patterns, not regexps
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feiros Tech: do I need the ## symbols?
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: globs are anchored
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: Ah, interesting to know
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: Yes, Feiros, by default...
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feiros Tech: that didnt make sence to me =(
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you must have the entire line, unless you do wildcards or regexp
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: Instead of capturing one part of a line to trigger something, you have to get the whole line verbatim
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feiros Tech: ah ok
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: heh, we must be in a cave. echo echo echo.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: I think I should just opt out of future channel usage for everyone's benefit ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: it shows! :p
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: mis
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: lo all
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: mis
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duralumin Tech: Is there a way to crate a miniwindow with monsters in the room from look?
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duralumin Tech: Is there a way to crate a miniwindow with monsters in the room from look?
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duralumin Tech: err sorry for the repeat
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use tags roomchars to put tags around MOBs/players in the room
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then capture those to miniwindows the same way that other plugins capture to them
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HighMage Rastiln Tech: anyone got a site for mush client spellup scrpit
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HighMage Rastiln Tech: err script
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Aardwolf.com
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Impotent Inicus peers around himself intently.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=8780
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HighMage Rastiln Tech: rally they have em on the main site now man it has been a while
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the one on aard's page is the same as the link I gave, but Aard's page doesn't tell you jack squat that is required before it can work
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I really wish they had the link to gammon's post on aard's page instead of the download itself, which is crippling
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Is it possible with the Aardwolf mush client to only send one channel to the channel window
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vanion Tech: 4 am dunno if get much response but wonder if anyone out there know how to regain focus from one window to another? from somecapture to main?
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: using zmud, is there looking for a wild card to match a single word with metacharacters. %w only matches alphas, %a only alphanumeric. does what i'm looking for exist ?
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eclaboussure Tech: anyone know much about lcd monitors?
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morphonius Tech: give it a smack lol ??
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eclaboussure Tech: i take that as a no from you
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morphonius Tech: *nod*
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: %w match any number of alpha characters (a-z) (a word)
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Migalito Tech: how do I turn off the map in my main screen but keep it on my map window?
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Migalito Tech: in mushclient
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: wich skill is better frenzy or berserk?
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tainted Tallimos Tech: anybody around that knows a lot about file permissions and stuff like that? Trying to copy a couple of files to an mp3 player and I get a write protection error. I am able to copy other files to this player but not these... any ideas?
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: legitimately downloaded mp3?
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tainted Tallimos Tech: .. of course...
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: might be the problem, then
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: digital rights management
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tainted Tallimos Tech: no nothing like that, downloaded from irc :p
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: different bit rate to the rest?
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tainted Tallimos Tech: all these songs have different bit rates
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tainted Tallimos Tech: same as the ones on the player, all differnet
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Are you they are mp3s and not possibly some format that the player wouldn't recognize like wma or flac?
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: are you sure*
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tainted Tallimos Tech: as far as I know... how can I tell for sure?
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I'm not sure actually!
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: any semi decent media player will tell you what format those files are
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: right-click properties usually does, too
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tainted Tallimos Tech: says mp3
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: does your mp3 player use hdd or flash for storage?
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tainted Tallimos Tech: ok how do i tell that? I am not up on all of this stuff anymore
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: if hdd there's possibility of bad blocks and other nasties
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Dashiell Tech: Try scanning those specific files with a virus scanner.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Dashiell Tech: They might be files just renamed to .mp3 to hide viruses or something
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tainted Tallimos Tech: hope not, i have them on my new laptop atm :p
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Dashiell Tech: If viruses haven't been activated, they're usually easy to remove.
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tainted Tallimos Tech: well I had one of these songs playing on another computer with a virus scanner and it worked fine
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovefoxxx Kis Tech: anyone have any idea why even though I #save my settings keep reverting to my oldass zmud file?
T1/r4/2009-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovefoxxx Kis Tech: everytime I quit and relog
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: If a person has a dell desktop that came with xp home, will reformatting it with xp professional cause any compatability issues?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: it shouldn't
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: shouldn't ... but have your restore disk ready just incase
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: driver compatability is the only problem i can think of, and i'm rather sure that driver that work on pro work on home
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: and a tangent of that question... If i'm reformatting a dell xp home desktop, why wouldn't the cd key that is on the sticker that is on top of the desktop show up as invalid?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: you will havta reinstall all drivers anyways since your formatting
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: ya davos, i meant if you were using a cd that came with the laptop
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: kalsch, why would the key show up as invalid?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: tahts why im asking:P
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: who knows.  you can generally call MS and they'll reactive it.  i've had to do that a few times
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: though a home license won't activate a pro install
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: I have a totally different xp pro cd and cd key
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: it looks like i will just reformat with xp pro and be done with it
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: calling MS is a rather painless, relatively quick process.  at least that's been my experience.  i think the whole thing was automated
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: anyone else lagging a bit, or is it just me?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: ok using MUSH and LUA if I want to match more than 1 item could I use 1% for the first item and 2% for the second item?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: %1 and %2
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: ok, but does it know to diffrentiate the diffrent astericks?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: yes, the first will be 1, the second 2, etc
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Yes, it will know that %1 corresponds to the first asterick, and %2 corresponds to the second.
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: is there a way to catch carrige returns in LUA im trying to hit a trigger off the last line of 2 lines
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: '\n' (with quotes), most likely.
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: does anyone know whats the problem with this sql statement? Select * from Eqlist where Slot=15 and Level<207 Order By Level Asc
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: zmud keeps throwing up a syntax error
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: anyone know a good telnet client in java for blackberries
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: hmmm.  no
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: anyone write zmud scripts willing to sell their services?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: whatcha lookin for?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Anyone familiar with the Aard mush client plugins?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Impotent Inicus bursts into tears.
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Icnoyotl Tech: anyone got any warcraft 3 cd keys i can use? i already have the expansion key...
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Any idea how come I can
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I can't run my Virtualbox Guest OS in seamless mode?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Or do I need to specify it before I start the VM?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andromeda Tech: hi how can i make mush wrap to my enlarged wondow ?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: World Configuration -> Output.  It's near the bottom.
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andromeda Tech: thnx
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Anyone familiar with the aardwolf mush client plugins?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andromeda Tech: no luck, it is still wrapped sorter, to half size of my window
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andromeda Tech: can any one tell me in mush how to make it wrap larger than 124 columns, it does not seem to use all my window
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Uncheck the auto-wrap to window size?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andromeda Tech: no luck no matter what it wont use more than half of my window :(
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Maybe because you don't see any lines that are greater than 124 characters?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lechter is agreeing with that Impotent Inicus person again...
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Try using gtell and saying something that's about 200 characters
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andromeda Tech: ok i think based on my char size I am around 100, but my problem remains, the room descriptions and look command wrapos at around 50-60th char, how cna i have them use all my 100 chars per line ?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: The room descriptions have only 60 or so characters per line.
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andromeda Tech: well then that is the question i quess, how to make the room descr, use my whole line an fit to horizontally to my half sized window?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: If you're feeling spunky, you could write a script to parse all lines, and then re-output them in 1 line.
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: "all lines" meaning the room description lines which you can grab using tags
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: unless you really mean all lines :)
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: Whatever makes him/her happy.
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andromeda Tech: hey another que, is there a keyboard way to close the helpfile i have just opened?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: have you tried ctrl+f4
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: CTRL-TAB to get to the window you want, then CTRL-W to close it :)
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andromeda Tech: nice thanks both work ^^
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andromeda Tech: so you think it is better to keep my typing window full screen and use the ctrl-tab to switch around to the rest windows as a game style?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: It all depends on what you like?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andromeda Tech: i cant realy figure out how to keep all in a good place
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andromeda Tech: when i put them all on screen my typing window chars are too small or wont fit in such a small typin window
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Only use ones that you want?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Not all people use the map window at all times, not all people use the stats window at all times
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: It just depends on what you want
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: i have a wxga screen and find i still don't have quite enough space :)
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you can never have enough screen space
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andromeda Tech: ok i will just keep my typing win on and tab to the rest need be. Now... one for my eyes shake, how can i make the white background of the help window be darker?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andromeda Tech: due to that delay should i pressume there is no way to do so guys?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: if it comes to the worst i suppose you could redefine the system colours, but that may affect the white everywhere or something :)
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: that's assuming the help window uses system colours 
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andromeda Tech: i should prolly do so, the systems thing, cause I am not finding it either
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andromeda Tech: darn it does not
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andromeda Tech: is there an easier way instead of typing 'tech' or 'newbie' guyz?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blacklight Tech: google?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andromeda Tech: heheheh nice one :) ... but seriously?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: just alias them to whatever you like
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: #alias {didialreadygoogleit} {tech %1}
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: And seriously... did you google it?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: #alias {didireadthehelpfile} {newbie %1}
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andromeda Tech: nice, i just read the help on alias, cool ^^
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: #alias {wang} {wang i need a drag plzz! %1}
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andromeda Tech: so hoy do i stop it from reporing my hp mn mv all the time?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lil bit of Whimsy Tech: help prompt?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andromeda Tech: heh 
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: #trigger {how can i (%w) (%w)} {help %2}
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: should work on most cases
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: Some of these questions would be better answered on the Newbie channel, I think
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andromeda Tech: well i did not get something well out of the help on prompt, is it possible to have this prompt i got now work only when on combat?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir sighs.
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: help prompt
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andromeda Tech: ...tephrasin... I read the help on prompt, prob is now I want my prompt to only work when I am in combat, istead of just permanently turning it off, so any ideas?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: Are you referring to the MUSH health/mana/moves bar?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: read the helpfile. it tells you how to set regular and battle prompt
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: Set your prompt to be nothing, and make your bprompt what you wish..
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: Not sure how well you can hide your non-battle prompt...
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: set it to something small
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andromeda Tech: not sure how to test the bprompt, or what to use to set it up with, nm maybe in future, i ll just turn it off for now
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: probably still show up as an annoying blank line unless you gag it
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: I would not advise turning off all prompts :p
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andromeda Tech: actual the 'prompt' command simply turns it off
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: You will no longer see prompts. Well, suit your self :p
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but it's not a good idea
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: you'd test the bprompt by fighting, btw ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: at least keep your hp there
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andromeda Tech: the 'bpromt' one helps you make a new one, but does not seem to be a simple command to simply have the current prompt as a bpromt, w/o having to setup the v
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: and if you read help prompt, you can set it with whatever you want..
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: type config all to get an idea of your current prompt
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: type config and copy the prompt from there
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andromeda Tech: so, i switched off my prompt, and set up my bprompt, but does that mean bpromt will come up?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: test it
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andromeda Tech: well i am still a newbie in academy, no clue how to test it right now.
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: Fight a mob. :p
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: I just tested it though, and it works fine.
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andromeda Tech: easy for yoy to say, ... I still got no clue on how to start such
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: 'prompt' turns off your normal prompt and allows your bprompt to show when fighting
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: help is your friend
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andromeda Tech: cool thnx :)
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andromeda Tech: i know, but i am kinda lazy and thought i could also advance my social skills too!!
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andromeda Tech: ^^
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Argot chuckles politely.
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Andromeda )
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: well turn your attention to the academy so you can start the fun stuff ;)
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andromeda Tech: to b honest, chat teasin you guys IS the fun stuff, rest will be like text killin mobs by the hundrends as i have already done in gfx mmos for like ages now^^ lol
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: no way! you've played OTHER online games with non-player characters in them for a long time now? wow that is so unique and interesting
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andromeda Tech: practically, i see this first mu exprerience of mine more like a social, blind typin expercise, tryin not to expect too much action and RPG adventure out of it.
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andromeda Tech: well i have tried many, not wow though
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: This, ladies and gentlemen, is a perfect example of how sarcasm often fails when presented solely in the written word
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Argot playfully tackles .          Jilted.
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andromeda Tech: frankly i gre quite bored as most of them or all, down in the end they are all about competitive h/c grinding for the next level or for the next better item!
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: you can find a lot more than just that here, but one of aard's facets is precisely what you just described
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: aard is mainly about grinding, but it has other features that make up for it
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: for example, you can harangue strangers from the comfort of your own (wherever you are) and in your (whatever state of dress you're in)
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: I don't grind! :p
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: why is this on tech, btw?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andromeda Tech: ouch :(
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: I haven't levelled in months
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andromeda Tech: well i ll just hve to try it and see, some grinding is not all that bad
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: good question dagnir. this channel hasn't been used for "tech" purposes for at least the past 20 lines
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: .          Jilted will grind you if you ask nicely
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andromeda Tech: prolly I am trying in vain to find the perfect mmo, rpg, adventure, strategy, the feel of real fantasy, w/o grinding, all in one kind of thing... I guess it's good to just have the ... DREAM ... :)
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lolderix Tech: I found LoTrO to be a good mmo u might try that one 
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: as a general rule, we don't discuss other mmo's or mud's here on aard
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: it's discourteous to the team who spends so much time to provide this free entertainment
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andromeda Tech: right one that one, but rule actually says 'no advertising', and we r simply discusin them ^^
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: I would say that him telling you to go check it out is an advertisement
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lolderix Tech: i was just giving my opinion not advertising. i didn't mean to break a rule or anything 
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andromeda Tech: well ... cut him some sluck, under a different light it could be him understandng my need to experience something ither than sheer grinding NPC mob
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: He is allowed to relate to your concerns as much as he likes. However, it is impolite to suggest by name other sources of entertainment. If it's so important, by all means let him email you or IM you. I'm certain a tell would go unnoticed as well.
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andromeda Tech: ok jit fair enough, tells is prolly best way to discuss such sensitive issue
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andromeda Tech: so this is a good question i got...well, reason I am discusin is that I am like already involved on 2 gfx mmo, but bored of the lonely grind and would not want to get onvolved further if it's same all over again, so what really makes mud better, think you can pin point it for me?'
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: well for one, I'm here
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andromeda Tech: ...to uphold the law?...
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: nah
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Andromeda P lol :)
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: I'm just awesome in general
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andromeda Tech: I bet you wear slack to fit all that big ego in there huh? lol lol lol :)
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Impotent Inicus peers around himself intently.
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: nah I'm just fat
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andromeda Tech: me too, but also got the big ego thing too :P :) lol
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andromeda Tech: frankly now, is aarfwolf best online mud with most gamersn most popular, etc, or is that it's gamers in here vote it way mere than others?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: i've back up all my files. how much can i screw up my comp if i install ubuntu and remove windows xp?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andromeda Tech: muuuuuch.....
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: If you install Ubuntu on its own?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: it says install inside windows, that's the option i want?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: None at all... unless you have some devices Ubuntu doesn't work well with.
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Ah, you're using Wubi?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andromeda Tech: beter try a CD boot of uduntu for some time, until u r certain u r ready to do such a system switch
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: why don't you read the documentation available on ubuntus site?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you're wasting your time, imho
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: i don't really use the comp much except for internet and word docs
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it has a metric-f**kload of guides
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well ubuntu doesn't come with word, you realise
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: yeah, gonna get open office
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but it comes with openoffice
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Then you'd be fine, Starbug. But do as Andromeda suggests, try it on liveCD maybe.
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: openoffice isn't word :-)
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: comes with open office?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andromeda Tech: still Ubuntu CD boot is a good choice to start with... maybe you got a change of heart, the CD boot will save you time and effort
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: ok, trying it from the cd :)  thanks :)
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: how do i start it directly from the cd each time?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andromeda Tech: no big deal, anytime ^^ :)
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yessir
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: boot from cdrom, save files to usb flash
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andromeda Tech: i 2nd that too,,, just boot on CD ^^
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Starbug - you mean you want to bypass the boot menu that your live CD offers?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's a good idea to try it from the cd to find out just how many of your hardware devices won't work with it were you to install it on your hard drive
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andromeda Tech: remember to be careful on managing hard disks and savin files, dont want to accidentaly erase anything^^
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: yeah. like on a mac you'd hold down c while the computer starts up
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: many of the better livecd gives option of booting from hdd
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: ok, thanks :) i'll explore around a little
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: While Tigernuts is being a little on the apocalyptic side, it's not without reason.
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: apocalyptic? not i
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: fud slinger then :)
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Some devices need a little bit of jiggling to work with Ubuntu, since most drivers are hammerlocked by Microsoft into being written for Windows.
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i said he'd likekly not gain anything
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: So booting from a cd will keep the windows os?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andromeda Tech: well ubuntu is one of the best out there, go for it and help the dream of open source for all ^^ :)
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: That it does.
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: "a little bit" being referred to trying to track down drivers that may or may not exist, or writing some from scratch
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Or you guys can do what I have now... set it up in a VM and upgrade it to have seamless mode.
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andromeda Tech: and that comes from a 100% windows workin professional, wish i had the time to do ubuntu
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: ms even made the bios manufacturers have a "plug and play" option vs a "legacy os" because windows plug and play was screwed!
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Pretty cool.
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Tigernuts - you can get by without writing your own drivers, though it always helps even in Windows :)
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: pnp has developed organically just like most stuff on pc's
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: up until windows xp, i'd have been happier if plug and play hadn't existed
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: tnuts fyi, practically any distro includes all the drivers that linux has, so either it works or it doesn't, not much "tracking down drivers" to do
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well it works or it doesn't, still far less likely to work than on a windows box
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andromeda Tech: hehe shuting off tech, need to go forth with my academy lessons, lol... will be back with new things to ask later on lol BB ^^ :)
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: and if it works you've got all your drivers from 1 cd, instead of the dozen or so websites you have to hunt around for windows drivers
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andromeda Tech: will be on the newb o'course ^^
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nonsense
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lolderix Tech: has anyone noticed a problem with enhanced strenght?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lolderix Tech: cause for me it says i don't know enhanced strength and i learned that at lvl 10 
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Well, tech is a weird channel to be asking on.. but did you practice it?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lolderix Tech: i asked it on tech incase it was a game glitch, and yes i practiced it 
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: And what did you type to try to cast it
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: is normally for rl tech, not mud stuff
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lolderix Tech: c 'enhanced strength' lolderix
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amigan Tech: try 'enhanced strength'
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: If it's saying you don't know the spell, it's because you're spelling it wrong or something
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't use lolderix
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you put lolderix outside the 's, so it really said You do not know an 'enhanced strength lolderix' spell.
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lolderix Tech: lol ok 
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lolderix Tech: mybad
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: best is to use a spellup script...let it worry about spelling ;-)
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lolderix Tech: ok i changed it, it worked again 
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Or even the spellup syntax
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lolderix Tech: ima noob on mush, where would i go in mush to use a spellup
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Just type 'spellup' and see how that works for you
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go here
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=8780
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: anyone know what the stock font type is for M$ notepad ?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lolderix Tech: k 
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: start up notepad, don't change anything, go to format -> fonts
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the highlighted one is the default
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: Lucidia Console, in case you don't have it.
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: thanks. I do just my niece changed it to something retarded the other day :)
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lolderix Tech: dude that spellup option is awesome, thanks for showing me that 
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it was written by the guy that wrote MUSHclient itself
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: how can i set it up so instead of typing runto i just have to type rt
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: use an alias, specifics depend on client
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: zmud?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: try #ALIAS {rt} {runto}
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: checkpoint security/encryption is rubbish, don't ever reccommend it ;-)
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: when ubuntu is partitioning the HD, does the progress increase from 0% ever?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: thought you were gonna use it from a liveCD
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: It probably does, but you don't notice it?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yeah, aren't you?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you shouldn't be partitioning anything
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: it hasn't moved in 20 minutes now
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: i decided to install it
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Well good on you for installing it... but it's tricky now.
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: i did have it booted from the CD, seemed easy enough :)
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yup, can't recall offhand what to check if your partitioner stops, though.
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Could you call up a terminal?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: maybe i can it up... the CD drive sounds like it's working, but it's stuck at 0% partitioned
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: err, maybe i can bring it up
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yeah... try it then.
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: ok, how do i bring up the terminal?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: got it :P
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: ok, terminal is called up, what's next?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: next step involves reinstalling windows, no?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Starbug - see what's mounted?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: don't think it was deleted
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Enter mount
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: sorry, i'm not sure what you mean
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Just go to the terminal... at the prompt, type mount and press enter.
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: What do you see there?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Alternatively, is the partitioner still at 0%?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: yep, it says please wait... resizing partition.  just a sec on the terminal
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: could it be a hardware problem with the fact the my CD drive is not 100% all the time?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: strange that you are doing an install, have you tried the livecd yet?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: what's the livecd?  i currently have a disk image burned onto a cd
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: liveCD means that you run it straight from the CD without having to install anything
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you boot off the CD and run ubuntu and leave your XP installation totally safe and untouched in case you want to go back
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: so you can check for driver compatibility etc
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: ok :) yeah i did that earlier.  it did everything i wanted it to, so i just decided to install it
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's why they all suggested you do that first
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: which distro are you installing anyway?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: It could be that... I've never seen the partitioner stuck at 0% to the best of my memory.
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Still got that terminal up?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: no, it's taking a while to load.  i'm gonna read some online stufff in the meantime
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: thanks for everyones help :) i'm sure i'lll be back
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Take care, and reboot to Windows!
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: Womble?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alynyth Tech: Hi, Can anybody help me disable the big map on aard's mushclient?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you just want it to stop popping up automatically, type "bigmap auto off"
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alynyth Tech: Ah, perfect!  Thanks
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apathy Tech: 1337
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the web page where you found the Aard MUSHclient had pages such as an FAQ that gives that command as well as telling you how to fully disable any of those plugins
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Is there a way to "lock" a window in Windows?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: I want to watch a youtube video while using MUSH.. but when I click to type in MUSH I want the youtube window to stay over the mush window
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: windows is missing something like that
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Impotent Inicus pouts. 
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: no. despite its name windows offer very few windows manipulation features
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Impotent Inicus snickers softly.
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: features that have been available decades ago on other platforms
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i have a php question, if someone wants to have a punt at answerring it
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Vivastar Tech: anyone know of a nice Gquest script for zmud?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: Warning: fsockopen(): no SSL support in this build in /share/storage/01/dc/dcomputers/pprec.php on line 15
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: something that wins the gq for you?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if my server has no SSL support, how can I add it?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: recompile php with ssl support?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Vivastar Tech: haha no I mean a script that tells me the orders of gquests so I can track when it is going to come up
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Dashiell Tech: Just put a few bricks of SSL under it.
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: haven't got any ssl cement, dash
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Dashiell Tech: ah, just try php glue then, it'll work okay
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: sounds like a dodgy host, it ought to be compiled in as standard
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: is it possible to add php support in your webspace?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: err ssl support
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: it would be an even more dodgier host if they allowed you to do that :)
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: Did you know I am making my own mud game on Just Basic v1.01?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: hrm
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: perhaps i can use the tecnique known as "nagging"
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: there *might* be some php-based solutions, google around
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: but i doubt it, it would very slow i imagine
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cougr Tech: i need to update ExpTracker_DB, element PupsSinceReset with a trigger from whois, can someone help please?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: fsockopen() is a standard part of php4 and onwards, so if i could get them to actually install it, everything will be good
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: just need to get them to recompile with SSL support
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cougr Tech: can anyone help with a database update trigger?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: separate the database update part from the trigger part...do you know how to make a trigger for what you need?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cougr Tech: nope
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hiddukel Tech: anyone know of a decent/easy to use mud client for the mac?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: who can explain what Plesk is?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: a web based interface to allow gui junkies to admin a server
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so how can Plesk replace an existing cgi platform?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: please elaborate on "replace"
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: isp isn't developing it's cgi platform, and has chosen Plesk to replace it
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: your isp develops its own "cgi platform"?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: "We have been working to find the most appropriate way to bring the CGI service up to date for some time. The main reason for the lack of development with the current platform has been that the highly customised design made it very difficult for us to perform updates and upgrades in line with the speed that hosting technology has changed. There are now a number of commercial solutions available which make this process easier for service providers. Following numerous discussions with suppliers, as well as a small scale trial with the Usergroup and a number of selected customers, we have now chosen Plesk to run our new advanced hosting products"
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: annoys the shit out of me when they babble incoherantly in isp-speak
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: It's just your web management front end
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: instead of using whatever you used before to manage your web page, you use a new interface called plesk.
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it lets then click buttons to make a new website/domains...that's all
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well that doesn't mean they're developing anything at all
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: doesn't mean there are any new features
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: they same to be confusing cgi with an application :)
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what features were you using?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: php
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, it's not an application server
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: My web hosting provider switched to Plesk too, it works nicely
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: currently grumping at them because their php server doesn't include SSL support
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: which from a naive user point of view seems to me a bit retarded
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: huh?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: php doesn't have to do with the ssl
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: If you're hosting an SSL page... you paid the few hundred bucks for an SSL certificate, right?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: php is an interpreter/processor, not the webserver itself
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: to see the story behind php/ssl read tech -h 200 or something
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: their php server has not got OpenSSL support
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: their webserver has not got openssl support
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: are you running SSL, with an SSL certificate, on an SSL-enabled server?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i just need to communicate with paypal which requires OpenSSL support
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: tnuts wants to use a function in php,and needs that function to support ssl
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: Then you can't connect to a php page with SSL either
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nogs
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yes you can, lechter
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: So, are you trying to connect to a page outside your domain with PHP then?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, so you're looking for your php page to access external resources via ssl
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yep
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: Ahhhh
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's Paypal's ITN system
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how commercial of level is the account with your ISP?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: upon receiving a payment, paypal sends notification to your webpage, you use pre-written php code to process the header, send a secure token back to paypal to have it authenticated
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: using a basic business level hosting service
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: things like paypal integration may need more than basic
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: basic business webhosting isn't the same as ecommerce hosting
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: given that's what most small businesses require, then they're well behind the curve if they don't provide it
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: have you asked the ISP?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: asking
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: the point is there is absolutely no reason why they don't compile php with ssl support, regardless of package
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: agreed, yhogurk, that's what i've told them
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: Perhaps nobody has asked for it.
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: unless they're running really oversold servers and don't want the overhead of ssl bogging down the servers :)
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: There is very little overhead necessary for SSL clients
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yhogurk, there's plenty of reason
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: Enabling unused extensions for craps and grins isn't exactly the most prudent course, anyway
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: then they can enable it just for us
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they can't sell the higher service if they give it to everyone
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: i wouldn't put ssl support in the crap and grins category
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: SSL Client support?  I would.
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: He's not asking for an SSL server, he's asking for an SSL client extension to be added.
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we're not talking about being able to secure your website here...
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: it works both ways, you want an ssl server, and you want to be able to talk to ssl servers
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it really is a more advanced setup, one which is typically sold as ecommerce-enabled, not just a business website
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: No, SSL servers and SSL clients are two completely different animals
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so i need to be asking for what exactly?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: OpenSSL PHP Extensions?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pretty much, yeah
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: Sounds about right, but what does your documentation say?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: my documentation doesn't say anything, since there isn't any
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you mean the docs from the ISP?
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: I mean the docs from whatever service he's trying to plug into
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they say very little, they just give you the code snippet, and details of the fields that it returns for you in the header
T1/r4/2009-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: basically, http://us3.php.net/manual/en/openssl.installation.php
T1/r4/2009-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: Vs nal bs lbh grpu thlf pna haqrefgnaq guvf, cyrnfr zrffntr zr onpx fnlvat, xvggraf.
T1/r4/2009-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon peers intently at Swangin.
T1/r4/2009-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: reason #5 why dvorak keyboards don't work
T1/r4/2009-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Rot13 isn't English... don't use it on public channels, please.
T1/r4/2009-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Heh. Vs in Dvorak is .; anyway.
T1/r4/2009-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Translation of Swangin's message, for those less inclined: If any of you tech guys can understand this, please message me back saying, kittens.
T1/r4/2009-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hail! Ceasar peers intently at Impotent Inicus.
T1/r4/2009-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Impotent Inicus coughs loudly.
T1/r4/2009-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: So, this laptop has a touchpad above the keyboard and below the monitor for sound volume, rewind, play.. etc
T1/r4/2009-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: For some reason the volume is constantly trying to turn itself up
T1/r4/2009-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: We've cleaned it too.. any ideas?
T1/r4/2009-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: does the goat blood flow towards east or west?
T1/r4/2009-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: East after summer solstice, west after winter.
T1/r4/2009-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: And, Inicus, is it wet at all?  Wet touchpads are angry touchpads
T1/r4/2009-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Impotent Inicus shakes his head at Lechter.
T1/r4/2009-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: are the chicken bones boiled or fresh?
T1/r4/2009-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: really out of ideas if it's cleaned
T1/r4/2009-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: It's not really a touch pad.. more like a touch bar
T1/r4/2009-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: it could have been damaged.  Might want to try getting it replaced.  in the meantime, it should be easy enough to disconnect.
T1/r4/2009-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Can't use any buttons on it because it's constantly turning up the volume
T1/r4/2009-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Eh?
T1/r4/2009-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: How would it be easy
T1/r4/2009-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: most panels above the keyboard on a laptop can be easily removed.
T1/r4/2009-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: usually you just have to pry it off
T1/r4/2009-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Don't really want to pry it off...
T1/r4/2009-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Thanks for the help though
T1/r4/2009-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: is there anyway to dynamically change the color of a gauge in zmud?
T1/r4/2009-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if i ever meet you, i'll ctrl-alt-delete you!
T1/r4/2009-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: looks like intel's i7 pwns amd's phenom2
T1/r4/2009-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: easy
T1/r4/2009-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: been a while since RAM is the bottleneck 
T1/r4/2009-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bloody hdd encryption
T1/r4/2009-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: always screws people up
T1/r4/2009-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: is there a way in zmud to get an alias to pass all arguments? like, instead of just %1, can i get it to pass all of them, regardless of how many there are?
T1/r4/2009-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: %-1
T1/r4/2009-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: ooooo you're awesome, thanks!
T1/r4/2009-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: %-2 works for second argument to end ..etc
T1/r4/2009-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: awesome. thanks!
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: is fallout 3 anygood?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: Yes.  The stories in the quest arcs are pretty awesome.  The graphics are amazing.  The combat is, well, Oblivion with guns, which I like.  Some people have trouble getting over the fact that there's a level cap, though (myself included), and the repair function is a bit lacking unless you use a mod to make it better.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i didn't even bother finishing f3 and started playing f1 for the 100th time
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i just about make the minimum pc requirements for it
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: think it'll wait til i upgrade
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: which could be a long time, given how skint i am
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: It would be best to wait till you upgrade, yes.  In large firefights with lots of mobs, you'll probably get major unplayable slowdown.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: is anyone else having trouble resolving  aardmud.org ?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klepto Tech: yep - had to change nameservers to get on
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: yeah mushclient wouldnt connect, i had to go to zmud which had the ip cached
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lolderix Tech: yea i had to change the ip to get in 
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: Same here, it wouldn't connect to aardmud.org
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lolderix Tech: the server ip changed to aardwolf.org 
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lolderix Tech: er yea what u said
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lolderix Tech: it seems like everytime i like log out and go to bed the next day i have to change something to get back in 
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: just connect to the IP 208.43.193.234   if you are having trouble
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lolderix Tech: thats what i did and it got me back in 
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: methinks the nameservers are broken
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so change them
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: I'm having problems with the name servers as well.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: not my nameserver... aard's
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: aard's nameserver is kinda irrelevant
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunsele Tech: i installed the aardmush client on a new computer. there are a jumble of stat at the bottom of the display. how can i clear this up?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: so why doesnt aardmud.org resolve ?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if aardmud.org doesn't resolve, it's down to YOUR nameserver, not aard's
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Patton Tech: tags off
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: /flushdns?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunsele Tech: thanks, that did it :)
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: my nameserver is resolving plenty of other names fine
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: ipconfig /flushdns  failed, lol
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Don't think it's you, Kitaro.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: --cough-- SOA record fubar
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: I just loaded Windows 7 Beta. Aardwolf MushClient terminates immediately. Standard MushClient is OK. Where can I download the Aardwolf Plugins? Thought I'd try them one at a time.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Arnica: I didn't have trouble with the Aardwolf MUSHClient.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: I am running it in VirtualBox and using Remote Desktop. Lots of variables as to why it didn't run.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Yeah. :P
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: if you install aardmush and then upgrade to latest mush then your plugins and stuff should still be there
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Wouldn't I need to be able to run aardmush in order to upgrade?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: why? just run the mush installer
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: OK. I'll try that.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: That seems to have done it. All plugins seem to be working.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: bye!
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: So what's the deal with CMUD and zMUD? I thought zMUD was ancient history but Zuggsoft still sells it...
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he sells it as a bundle to sell cmud...he doesn't really support it
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's "buy zmud now, you get cmud for free"...pretty much because cmud's barely out of beta and most people aren't ready to switch to it yet ;-)
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: It's barely out of beta? Didn't it come out in 2006 or something?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: windows came out about 20 years ago and is still barely out of beta
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: oladon: http://xkcd.com/329/
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You snicker with him about your shared secret.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it just went back into alpha
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: is there anyway to put comments in zmud scripts? nothing about those in the help file and most of the common commenting syntax i've tried doesn't work
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes, but not in a way that will survive export/import
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: comments are lines that begin with semicolons
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: use a semi-colon at the start of line
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: but exporting as a text file drops those lines? ah ok thanks
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it will have unintended consequences if you use semicolon as a line break indicator
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: your scripts will break upon import
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the best way to add comments is to put them inside a loop 0 block
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: nod, didn't think of that..thanks a lot
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: though it may mess with the syntax highlighter
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andromeda Tech: hi, is it possible to tell me how to open a .txt file using the mush notepad?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: in zmud how do you do greaterthen or equal to?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: >=?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: mm is zmud 7.2 64bit compatible?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: not really but you can run the compability wizard and set it to run as though it was in xp
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: runs on xp 64bit
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not tried on vista64
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: it works on vista64
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: am using server08 mmm oh well. lol i'll try it with compat mode
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: thanks
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: could always stick xp in a vm and do it that way
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: compatibility mode should definitely run it tho
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: aights thanks (:
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: in zmud I am able to change the font size in like my main window, but unsure as how to do how to change it in my chat channel windows, any ideas?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lolderix Tech: the fixedsys font, is there a way i can shrink that font?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: a clue in the name - 'fixed'
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes you can
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: fixed means it's fixed width
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lolderix Tech: well yea i know but i didn't know if there was a way to override it 
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to 'shrink', you choose a different size
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what are you using fixedsys for that you want to shrink it?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lolderix Tech: the main aardwolf window
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then just change fontsize
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lolderix Tech: i was wanting to shrink it so i have more room for the stats map and big map 
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you use fixedsys for the main window text? weird
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you should shrink the size of the bigmap first
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I use terminal 6pt
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: on my smaller laptop
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lolderix Tech: i already had that at 4
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Is fixedsys what mushclient gives as the font for the main window?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: maybe
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lolderix Tech: yea
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you must have a very small screen
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: my resolution currently is 1400x1050 and I fit everything fine without changing the font size of anything other than bigmap
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lolderix Tech: i switched to that terminal 
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Um
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: I think I broke my mushclient
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: I keep getting random lines that start with TRACE:
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ctrl-alt-t
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: TRACE: Fired unlabelled timer TRACE: Executing timer script "display_timer"
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Thanks
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Impotent Inicus wipes his brow with obvious relief.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or game -> trace menu
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Yeah, I think I accidentally clicked it
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Impotent Inicus thanks you heartily. 
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Has anyone figured out how to integrate the live iwuvaard db into their MUD client scripts?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ozzy
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://www.conradshome.com/iwuvzmud
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: What MUD client? Is it available somewhere on the nenernets for me to study publicly?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Gracias.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Hi, got a bit of a programming problem here..
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: It's homework, yes. But I can't seem to figure out some stuff.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: they'll probably help with homework so long as it doesn't include help with a quest
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I just needed to copy an array's content over to a new array and delete the old one.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: In C.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: And the function template I have to use is int *doubleMe( int a[], int size )..
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: So what's the problem exactly?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Thing is, inside int *doubleMe I tried to use free(a); after the stuff was copied, etc.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: But for some reason I keep getting segfaults.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I'm sure I'm just missing something small.. it's almost done, just forgot some important detail :(
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: have you assigned memory before attempting to free it?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Hmm... no, I thought that might be the problem.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: But how would I otherwise delete a[] if I'd passed it in as an argument?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: int *doubleMe( int a[], int size ) means the address of a[] goes in, right?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: its a long time ago, but you need to malloc before using free?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: That is, the address of a[0].
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: OK, so you can only free() what you've malloc()ed
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: Yes. There's an issue of scope here also. You're modifying what a[] points to, but you're not modifying a[] itself.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: vague vague memories from last century :P
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: How might one dispose of an array that wasn't declared within the function?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: You need to pass in a**, which is the address of the pointer that is the beginning of a[]
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MIA Xantcha Tech: You're trying to discard an array that was declared outside the function scope from within the funciton?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MIA Xantcha Tech: how was the array declared?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: It has to be declared outside... I put it in main() as int a[] = { 1, 2 };. There is no requirement on how it is to be declared.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Just that I can only pass in int a[] and I have to "dispose of the old array."
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: You can't "dispose of" an item on the stack until you exit the frame.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I thought it would be a simple case of free() but now I ran into this problem.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MIA Xantcha Tech: Hrm, I must've missed part of the converrsation, one moment while I check backlogs
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Erikson: I hear you. But I have to 'dispose of' it within the function, or somehow do something that results in its 'disposal'.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: We may not have thought of that, Xantcha.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Schnapps: you mentioned a**?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Then whoever invented the assignment needs to be clearer about what they intend.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: (On most other channels, this would be an obscenity.) :)
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MIA Xantcha Tech: If you are passing int a[] into the function as a parameter, there is no valid method for deleting a from within the function... it shoul be handled differently
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Ah.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: malloc() and free() only have meaning for heap variables.  Neither apply at all to the stack.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MIA Xantcha is agreeing with that Not an Imm Erikson person again...
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: Yeah, I was assuming that you had declared the array on the heap using malloc()
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: And you can't free() something without having it; you'd have to pass in a pointer to the array as aforementioned.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MIA Xantcha Tech: Because there is no way for your function to know if a[] is statically declared, malloc'd, or allocated in some other way
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: All that to one side, it's Very Bad Form to blow away memory inside a function like that.  That's how you end up with massive bugginess.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: So my best bet would be to leave the free() line in the answer, comment it out, and ask why it doesn't work? :)
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MIA Xantcha Tech: If you've got "int a[4];" or similar in your main function, you cannot free() (or otherwise de-allocated/dispose) of it until your function terminates
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: We know why it doesn't work; because it's meaningless   :p
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: By the way, couldn't I just assign 0 to all the values in the original array a[] ?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: You could, if that's the intended result.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Which would, in a manner of speaking, 'erase' the existing array.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: that's just a change of content in the array though, stricly speaking
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: It would just be pointless in most situations; wasted cycles.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yeah, I know. But since it can't be free()d.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MIA Xantcha Tech: You could, but any rational definition of dispose is not "zero out"... which makes me think the teacher is misguided, or is trying to trick you
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: (but then, it's homework.  It's not supposed to make any sense.)
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: bonus points for saying "trick question!!"
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Erikson: *snort* ... Xantcha: I agree, I will leave it incomplete and ask the lecturer. :)
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Thanks guys ...
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MIA Xantcha Tech: I've had teachers attempt that before... give you a problem that makes you jump to a wrong conclusion, then they get to be all condescending telling you why you're wrong
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: asking whomever assigned it wtf they meant is probably a good idea :P
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Nah this guy's new (to this module) and he seems pretty nice.. so I'm just going to call him out casually on this one.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Apparently people have submitted solutions 2 hours after the assignment was posted online..
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: So they've managed to satisfy themselves about it somehow... or there's something I'm missing.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: You're in competition with yourself ultimately not them
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I know, I just want to know how they did it, if they did.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: A lot of times, the first in either took the course before or turned in a WAG :P
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Incidentally, I'm a bit stuck as to a choice of IDE on Linux.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I prefer to use vim/gcc the old way, but I'm lost when it comes to debugging.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Considering the comprehension of presented problems, understanding of the semantics of the language, and results of the combination of the two I've seen from _professional_ programmers...
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: codeblocks isnt bad
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Not an Imm Erikson gets by just fine with vim.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: How do you debug then, Erikson, gdb?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Sometimes.  Often just scattering some debugging prints around is enough to find the problem.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Menace: codeblocks I tried... not sure what I did wrong, but I couldn't build the code, something about /bin/Debug, etc.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yeah... either if it's a simple program or you know enough to consider it a simple program.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: so your using gnome?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yeah... Ubuntu in a VM. This class is for Operating Systems, so the C bit is incidental, it's probably the memory handling that's more important.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: (I haven't been able to boot my Linux installs on this new laptop, so I resorted to using a VM in the end :()
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Thanks guys! :)
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Another thing... I've installed LILO to my MBR. Now I want to format the partition where lilo.conf is stored, because it can't be otherwise accessed by Windows (from the IFS driver.)
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Obviously that would be a Bad Thing, because LILO would lose its conf file...?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: is there a way to make a trigger match two consecutive lines?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: is anyone here savvy in trojans?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Depends on what you need.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: (It's best to just ask your question) :)
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: I've written a few, why do you need one?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: to know how to find one all of my software can find it but it cant remove it and says needs a manual removal but it doesnt tell me the file location
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: What software are you using?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: u name it and iv tried it. i dont have the ability for anything that costs tho
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: crayze how did u learn to write them? if i know how they r written i can better secure myself
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: cudnt u just tell me i asked like a retard instead of sending me to a site that i thot wud help
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: It will help.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: not from what i read?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: People will be much more inclined to help you if you read that site and try to apply it.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: the core file in system files is that what allows u to log in?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Then you obviously need reading lessons...
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Since you haven't given us any information about the problem you're having, we can't help you.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: I.e. what software you're trying to use, what trojan it's reporting, what the specific error message is, what OS you're running, what "core file" you're talking about...
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: nothing yet but i know what can happen if i give u the trojan name will that help?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: That could help.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Because we're not mind readers.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Nothing yet what?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: Trojan.A!infec.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: What software is telling you that it requires a "manual removal"?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Now, did you try googling that to see if you can find a removal process for it?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: right now my norton is the only one finding it
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: yes and they all cost and i dont have a credit card
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: And is Norton the one that tells you it requires a manual removal?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: yes
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: More than likely, you need to boot into safe mode, run your AV and let it take care of it that way.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i tried that and i was removal all my recent addition and accidentaly remmoved "core" file and then cudnt boot so i restored from boot menu and recovered the core file
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: but idk what to do now
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: What AV's have you used, specifically?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: And don't say 'You name it, I've tried it." because more than likely, you've missed a number of free AVs.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: norton,pcdoctore,ad-aware, ad-alert, performance scan, registry mechanic, performance center, spywareremover
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: windows defender
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Windows Defender sucks. :P
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: All the ones you've 'used' suck.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Download Spybot Search and Destroy from safernetworking.org
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Then run it in safe mode.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: But you didn't list AVG. Malwarebytes. Spybot S&D....
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: o yeah avg srry
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Heck, you didn't even mention trend micro.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: F-Prot. :P
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: F-Prot is great.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: zomg f-protect? :S
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dingaling Tech: f-prot v. clamav
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: I've seen that mess up people's tcp/ip stack way too many times
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Also, get CCleaner to clean the crap off your computer.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon raises an eyebrow at Crayze's weird actions.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: All else fails, Hellfiend, the ultimate virus-remover: Start-Run-cmd-> format /y c:\
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon rolls on the floor laughing at Alt. Helpa Charneus's antics!
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i do NOT wanna format
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Telop Tech: that's evil :D
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: HF, first you should go into your add/remove programs (You still haven't said which OS you're using) and clean it out
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Ok. Then the second ulimate virus-remover: deltree /y c:\*.*
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: then invest in acronis :)
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Remove everything that you don't know what it is.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: are those programs free or "free" then pay so it will remove it
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Also remove all the other virus/spyware stuff that you installed.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Anything that's "free then pay so it will remove it" is probably spyware itself, HF.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods at Apprentice Oladon.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Things like PC-Doctor. :P
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: or better yet, install Deep Freeze :)
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: fresh install, install all your apps, then install deep freeze
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i can handle spyware with my LIMITED knowledge of programming just not trojans. i wud like to know where i can learn to write them so i know better what im dealing with
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: astalavista.net
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: get a membership
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon is agreeing with that Im your Huckleberry person again...
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Hah. You don't need to learn how to write them.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon is agreeing with that Alt. Helpa Charneus person again...
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: they even give you the code, explainations - ect
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: does it cost?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: You really don't...
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: The only sense in learning how to write them is so that you can infect others with it.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: knowledge is free, but having it gathered for you isnt
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: if i kn ow more about them i know how they work how to find them and how to prevent them so this crap doesnt happen again
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Most of them work differently, HF.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Stop going to sites that are filled with spyware.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: You'd spend longer learning about "how they work" than just keeping up with programs that remove them.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dingaling Tech: sounds like a waste of money to me. learn how to program, learn about operating systems, and learn about computer architectures
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to prevent them, pay attention to what you're clicking on...simple as that
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Dashiell Tech: wtb pirated videos with trojan viruses!
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon nods at you in agreement. 
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Agent Dashiell nogs at himself, he must be getting freaky!
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: im not malicious enough to infect other i just wanna further my programming knowledge since its so scarce as is
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Then learn how to program something useful.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Learning how to write trojans will not further your programming knowledge.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon is agreeing with that Alt. Helpa Charneus person again...
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i started python
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, good luck with python trojans
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dingaling Tech: would have started with something more classical like c or c++
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus sniggers quietly to himself, reflecting over an amusing thought.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i wasnt trying trojans i was just trying to learn to code
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: interpreted languages, for which most machines don't have an interpreter, makes things interesting
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You stated numerous times you wanted to learn how to write a trojan.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: http://catb.org/esr/writings/unix-koans/script-kiddie.html
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: when i was doing python i wasnt making that atempt
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i only started on that course once i got a trojan
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: HF, check out the link I posted.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: ok
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: lol i wasnt intending to hack i just wanna code since computers are the future
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Then you don't need to know how to write a trojan.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Trojans are bad news.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: ok no trojans but where can i learn to code like for total newbs
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: community college?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: lol
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: And actually, computers are the present.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: t ilidar I think he has to finish grade school first.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Damn it... mis.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: and the past.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: ill give u that one oladon
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: And... other times.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon looks around and whistles innocently.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: You people and your 1-dimensional view of time...
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: telepathic communication/community knowledge banks/quantum entanglement-based technologies/learnings are the future
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: enlighten us o great erikson
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: I sure hope not.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: how do i delete all my installs without accidentally getting anything critical and without erasing all my music and crap
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: HF, as I said... go into your add/remove programs, and remove anything you didn't install or don't know what it is
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: If you can't figure that out, then you're by far not ready for programming.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Just wipe everything and restore data from your backups.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: pfft, you think he has backups?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i do lol
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: He will next time.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: on disk and recovery points set up
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i do have SOME common sense
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Wow, that's almost as good a backup system as RAID!
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: System restore sucks. Never use it.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: first thing i do when i get a new pc is to off it
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: it wasnt my first choice but when i first got this comp i got a BAD virus so i did everything i cud this time just in case
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: in cmud, anyone know how to make certain capture windows focus on connect and stay focused unless i click on something else
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: check the id assigned to the subscreen in XML
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: from what I can tell, the subscreen with the highest id for a particular grouping of screens winds up getting the focus.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: anyone know if you can turn on mccp compression with putty?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use an mccp proxy
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or use putty to access a real client such as tinyfugue :-)
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: not my computer :(
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so the advice works
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: no but there is a version of putty that was combined with a mudclient on source code level, that supporst it
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: didn't powtty/powwow support mccp?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: any computer that I could use putty on, I can use putty to access my tinyfugue setup...
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: haha powwow haven't heard that in years :p
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's quite popular actually
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not on this mud tho
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: http://elvenrunes.mine.nu/powtty/
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: it's putty cobined with powow - powwow is basiclly tintin
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: I used powwow when it first came out hehe way back when :) tx for da link
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: it's putty cobined with powow - powwow is basiclly tintin
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: mistell
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You snicker softly.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: anyone know where to get a script that pracs spellups to 100%?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: a bot, you mean?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: well under help bot that's allowed
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: auto training spells is not illeagal, within constraints
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: anyone know how to go about it?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i could write one, but i dunno any published ones
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: to be legal you have to be in full control... why not just use spellups as required
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: the spellup command virtual does it all anyway
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: virtually*
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: just use a spellup script and spam spellup, canc and quaff
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: how do i loop it?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: from help bot :   The view on practicing skills/spells has changed and does not constitute botting to simply practice these to 100%.  However, the following rules must also be followed regarding this practice:
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: to loop, spam enter~
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: in zmud you could use  #loop
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: kitaro can i have an example, can loop say, spellup and cancel
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: but basically if I'm doing it, i'd cast the new spell, set a trigger to recast if the casting fails, and set another trigger to cast cancellation a few times when it's successful
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: check the zmud help, it shows examples
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: even simpler... spellup x3, cancel x5, rinse and repeat
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: yup, works fine
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: ya i wrote some crap liek that that only goes for like half an hour, i want one that goes forever
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: Just set a timer then, mate
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: just make sure you cancel enough times to pull the spells
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: most importantly do it in an empty room
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: or nospell room
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: make sure you know how to break your infinite loop when you need to, lol
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: as in spells dont echo to others
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: i'll just quit and come back
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: sleep is a good break for loops i find
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: put in a delay so you dont get disconnected for flooding
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: i do
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: its all cept but i dont know how to loop it :p
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: you know how to set triggers in the first place?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: put in an alias that uses #loop
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: Is there a way to autoset the color syntax for zmud?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: more info ?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: I have the report script from crimson, but it only shows colors on the #show commands. The ones sent to gtell don't have any color codes at all.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: I assume it's because clientside, the color syntax for the mud aren't set.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: i didn't even get that working
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: I got it working... just not colorfully.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: where is this csript ?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: where is this script ?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: crimson's site
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: www.crimsonhorde.org
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: does it work as is?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: No. Needs some minor tweaks.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: Plus some I'm obviously not getting...
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: damn, no wonder i coudln't get it working
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: You have to turn on color syntax, and put in a few minor tweaks from the readme txt file, but it should come up fairly easily.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: what are these 'minor tweaks' lol
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: i did what it told me to do in the readme and it wasn't sufficient
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: Like you have to tell it what your questor's name is, what level you are, do a tierreset, just minor tweaks that set it to your character.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: They're all in the readme.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i was about to say... am reading the read me, that script has several pre-requisites....
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: i did all that, came out as gibberish, i guess you guys have better luck that myself
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: that script looks very fragile
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: it's prob very version dependant, and looks like it was written for old aardwolf
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: Well, I did all those prereqs, but for some reason the quest report part doesn't work right, and the colors aren't showing up in gtell.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: haha ya i thought so, it doesn't work properly, just use the atrediess ones
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: I'll tweak this one until it works right... I'm strange like that.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: Thanks for bothering to look into it though.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: i'm no pro at that stuff, if it doesn't work as is or as per instructions, i'm pretty buggered
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: Does zmud default to having regular expression enabled?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: at least you come out with hands on experience
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: omg
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: MT
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vanion falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: any idea how to force vista to flush the dirty ntfs volume flag?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i need some testing for a stream. see if it works, if you have a moment - http://87.119.184.131:8000/streaming.ogg
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and even if you don't hear anything, can you get the stream info?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: The server at 87.119.184.131 is taking too long to respond.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: just a timeout and that's it?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Yeah, I just used Firefox to try it
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what if you use vlc/foobar or winamp?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: If you have a firewall and/or router, is it set to let port 8000 through?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah. it's configured to do that
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I think I have a plugin in Firefox which handles audio/video stuff
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm suspicious of my isp. the thing works in local network
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but it doesn't even work over 5 hops
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Tried Winamp, same results, just says "Connecting..."
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: can anyone tell me when when i change the number in this script for position the item dose not move?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: this is the code had to look it up sry <DIV id="Menu1" STYLE="position:absolute;left:10;top:200;width:100;">
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: hrmmm
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i need some serious help with a trojan that i cannot find
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: how do you know you ahve it, then?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: norton antivirus found it but cannot remove it
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: and i cant find it to do it manuallty
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what's the infected file?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: Have you searched while in safe mode?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: idk
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: download and run combofix, that's got a good chance of ripping it out anyway
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i have to find it while logged regularly so i can get help with it because im not so program savvy
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: safe mode w\ networking
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: if i tell u the trojan name can u tell me if my problems are caused by it?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: possibly
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: if i boot wiht networking it can just re-inject itself
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: trojan.brisv.a!.inf.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: combofix it
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: trojan.brisv.a!inf.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i dont have a credit card so have no way to pay for it
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: its free
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: combfofix and malwarebytes imo
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: free or "free:
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: Does your AV say you can't clean it? Or does it says it cleans it but it keeps coming back?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: cant clean it. says needs manual removal
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nogs, combofix is a freebie
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: http://lognot.blogspot.com/2008/07/how-to-remove-trojanbrisva.html
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i tried that my hpkeys have not been set
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: WTF is hpkeys not set?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you could also combofix it
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: and now its starting to not let me log in i had to go to "last known good config" for it to even let me on
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: or alternatively you could throw combofix at it
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: lol i heard u the first 20 times tiger im just getting other input
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: combofix IS a kickass program:P
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well there is another option
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: no formatting
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no no, no formatting
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: electromagnets!
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: what tiger
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: combofix it
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: lol
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: Just download something else to clean it. That is the best non-technical option.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: That something else might as well be combofix. :P
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Muesli Tech: if all fails, there's always combofix :)
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: all the av i run will tell me othats something is wrong but then make me pay to have it removed
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Did you miss where they said 'combofix is free'?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i have been told that about everything else also
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: By whom?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: the people trying to sell you it, or someone who uses them?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: other ppl on tech chan last night
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: what files are responsible for allowing u to log in so i can check if they have been removed somehow...or infected
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: My biggest weakness is automatic virus removal. Real geeks don't know the best automatic removal tools because they don't /get/ viruses.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: how about you try combofix and start asking questions again if it doesn't work for you?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i rarely use automatic tools hijack this, killbox and regedit are the best :)
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Tigernuts is probably giving you a good option - I think he makes money helping out unfortunately computer illiterate businesses fix their pcs
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: where is the best spot to get combofix?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: http://download.bleepingcomputer.com/sUBs/ComboFix.exe
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: direct url
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apathy Tech: YEAH, bleeping computer is the shit
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i cant get combofix to work all so im screwed but i did get malwarewbytes
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: can't get it to work?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: wont download right
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: how so?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: the trojan is blocking download?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: doesnt pass hash check and then norton blocks it
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: uninstall norton
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: immediately:P
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: y wud i do that its the only thing that has found anything so far
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah. do it
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: well now malware has
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: or download it from safe mode w/networking
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Yeah I see Norton works so well, it found it, but won't let you remove the trojan
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: but i did find it when nothing else has
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i men it not i
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: What are the odds of his trojan being a downloaded program that Norton detects but the trojan comes from a downloader parent program which Norton doesn't detect? :P
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: quite good, nortons is shit, really
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: can u dumb that down for me a little warpig so i know what im looking for know.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: all the infected files are registry keys
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: Example?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: hkey_current_user....
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: The stuff after the ... is important. :P
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: idk which exactly cuz i uninstalled the av that told me cuz it was trying to make me pay
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: are you sure you're getting your av stuff from reliable sources? not from those web pop-ups that say you're infected click here (to really get infected)?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: thats my favorite place to get AV
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: its so convienent
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Yeah how else would I have know I had 40 infections if that website popup on that porn site hadn't told me?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: I would only get my AV from reliable sources, just like I'd only buy jewelry from the High Street not a market stall
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: afaik clamwin, avg, avast, avira, windows defender, and comodo are free or have a free version
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: avg dont do crap
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: spybot has handled irritating situations well for me
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: could also try running a scan in safe mode
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: can someone tell me what is the possible cause for my computer loading up but when i go to log in or even wait and do nothing it will restart
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: virus is one possibility
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: prolly since i have a trojan that i cant get rid of
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: if you got your backups, time to low level format and do a clean install
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: and be more careful around pr0n sites next time:P
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i have no new backups only old ones and i cant lose all my info that i have. dont go to porn srry lol
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: try shifting the harddisk to another computer, maybe you can pull data off it that way
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: if its only a bootup issue
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: not that tech savvy i have no clue what ur saying to do
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: find a techie friend nearby and ask them to copy your harddisk
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: or find a comp. tech
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: how do you do a low level format?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: im gonna take my laptop to school 2morow and see if our tech guy can help but i wanna really get it fixed
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i know what trojan it is and i know i have it but i just cant get it gone
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: fdisk used to do it, don't know what the windows equiv is
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: i just meant dont do a quick format, because it doesnt destroy deep rooted crap
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: how do i do that? remember not that techy
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: sorry, that was a response to yhogurk's
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: afaik it's not even possible to do low level format on modern hardware
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: all i remember was that it took hours to format my old old infested hdd
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: maybe it tried zeroing everything
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: damn so i either lose EVERYTHING or run the risk or some SERIOUSLY malicious crap
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: did you run combofix yet
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: get your backups done, do a clean re-install of windows and put your backed up data back on
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: any competent techs can do that, if the hardware lets em
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i cant get it to run but i did malwarebytes and it found some stuff and took them out but still have the trojan
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: if i make a backup right now wont it copy the trojan also
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: make a backup of your data
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: not programs
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: eg documents, excel spreadsheets
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: programs you'll have to redownload
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: would the trojan name help u b more specific here? im guessing it came from the pirated dvds and crap
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: did you run combofix yet hellfiend...
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i cant run it
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: or follow the steps on the link i posted here designed to remove that virus?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: it didnt work either
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: You were already told to stop Norton so you could run it
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: You went into ur registry and made the changes like it said on the link?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i cant turn it off i can only uninstall it and i dont wanna lose what i little protection i have right now
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: norton does not protect
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: you can't turn it off? are you the administrator on this PC?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: yes i am
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: Did you go to the link i posted and follow the reigstry directions?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i can tell you from experience that norton is MUCH easyier to disable than remove
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: norton removal tool
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i just cant find out how to turn it off without removing it completely
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: ur on your own if you dont want to listen to the solution ive already posted:P
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i really am trying here dude
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: yeagh... lucky if you know about the removal tool, most ppl dont... and you would think a simple uninstall would work, lol
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i g2g ill work on what u guys said ill get back to you in a little
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: hell just take it to a PC tech and let them deal with it
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ologn Tech: "Hey, can you open up my laptop and try to reconnect the display for me
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ologn Tech: "is it under warentee?" "Yeah..." "No."
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: is there a way to change the number of characters displayed on a line in the "Chats" window?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: change the size of the window, or change the size of the font
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: i changed the size of the window, but it just overlaps it
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: it doesn't auto wrap i think heh
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can tell it to though
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: any idea how to wordwrap it?
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right-click on the window, check wrap
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: mm its checked already
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: its checked
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: with chats focused, go to game -> configure -> output
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's a number of things to customise, the checkboxes on the right as well as the bottom box of stuff
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: ahh ok cool thanks
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: ok I think i figured it out.
T1/r4/2009-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i finally got my comp fixed
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: Seems like it shouldn't be that difficult...anyone know how to do it in any language, for that matter?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: Might help me google it better.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: what did you want to do?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: madcatz, you just want to print the var?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: HappyDog Madcatz nods.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: seems a print or echo function would be what you want
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: I need it to take a string as an argument
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: And return the contents of the variable with that name.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the string as argument isn't relevant
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: echo(foo) isn't the same as echo("foo"), for example.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, that makes no sense, if foo is the name of the variable
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: I want to pass "foo", and it return foo.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: Not pass foo and return foo, or pass "foo" and return "foo"
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: whether it's considered a string should be context-sensitive
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: I have a variable, abc, that has a string (let's say "xyz") in its contents.  I want to know the contents of the variable named xyz.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: Using abc, of course.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wait, you're daisy chaining the references, didn't mention that earlier
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you just need another level of evaluation
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: it's a bit like pointers in C and variable variables in php
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: local abc = "xyz";I want to do somefunction(abc), and it return the value of the variable xyz.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: Or any other thing that'll let me pass a string as an argument, and have it give me the contents of the variable with that string as its name.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: So, somefunction("xyz"), that returns xyz (the variable)
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: Hmm, think I might have found it.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: loadstring()
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: Interprets the given string as lua code.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: isn't the global variable table just another associative array at the end of the day? Find the name of that array and you can just access it that way.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: Nods, that was the route I was going.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: Ah, even better.  There's a getglobal() function in Lua.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dudemanguy Tech: hiya people
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dudemanguy Tech: anyone here know a way to allocate some ram to a non-integrated video card :/?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: erm, you don't
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dudemanguy Tech: gah... i was afraid that's the answer i would get :|
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Muesli Tech: scissors mate
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: duct tape
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why would you need to?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: hammer
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dudemanguy Tech: my graphics card only has 32mb vga ram, and i need 64 to play one of ma favorite mmos
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: chances are, if it only has 32mb of vga ram, it wouldn't be powerful enough to run your game properly, regardless
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dudemanguy Tech: no, it wouldn't, but it would run it decently
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Muesli Tech: Regardless, I'd recommend joining the 21st century :)
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: just pick up a cheap second hand agp card off ebay
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: prolly get a 128mb one for under $20
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Muesli Tech: then again.. I'm playing text bas... nm 
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dudemanguy Tech: "cheap" is out of my price range. 16, and not allowed to do so much as rake a lawn for some spare cash
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: Aaard 34fps
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: Aaard @534fps
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i finally got rid of that trojan
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dudemanguy Tech: anyone know an hla library for interacting with memory adresses? I've found the allocation record for my video card :O!
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: but none of those programs u giys suggested worked
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: did they suggest AVG and Spybot Search and Destroy? Two best progs out there for it and they're free.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: You're going to write a driver to translate graphics addresses and swap data in and out of your card's 32 mb buffer, huh?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dudemanguy Tech: i'm gonna try xD
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: yeah they did but nothing worked i finally just used a restore point
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dudemanguy Tech: someone has to invent the wheel
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i wish i knew crap about programming so i knew what u guys just said
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: Don't feel bad. I don't even know what I said. :P
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: lol
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dudemanguy Tech: 95% of programmers have no idea wth they're talking about
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dudemanguy Tech: it's the ones who use assembly, or actually do frontier, that do
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dudemanguy Tech: and they have no lives
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: cats have 9 lives
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i wissh i cud program even an ounce lol. the extent of my learning is from using c-prompt to kick an administrator off of the network and make myself admin.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: how do i set hotkeys on the mush client?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game -> configure -> macros
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: ty
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: anyone know how to use the = operator in zmud?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: anyone know how to use the =~ operator in zmud?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Is it like blah =~ "red"
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: it's a string match?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: i'm trying to capture matches and then check for them within an #IF, can't understand the manual
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: my zmud is rusty so bear with me - but if you do #var yog Strawberry, does #if (yog =~ "Strawberry") ... does that work?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: or %yog or whatever you have to do
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: og, that should work
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: @yog, that should work
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: the bit i don't quite get is "However, you must use %% in front of the pattern to access wildcards matched by pattern match expression rather than the alias parameters."
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: if you weren't a terrorist you wouldn't have that problem
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: right now i can only access the alias parameters, but i want to access the matched parameters, and i don't quite know where to stick the %%
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Has anyone else tried to play Aard via their Blackberry?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: probably
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: lasher managed to do it
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i played via my G1
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: There are people out there who would play via an abacus if they could
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Hahaha
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: my abacus broke when i typed my username i have not fixed it yet
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: thought about it, but then I'd never get anything else done...
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dudemanguy Tech: i'm gonna try and play over my mp3 player :P
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: I already do that
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Yeah, my phone is my mp3 player... XD
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Okie so my mp3 player is my PC
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dudemanguy Tech: lolz
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: OK, my regex skills must be rusty.  shop(keeper)? should match on both shop and shopkeeper, right?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: wow madcatz rusty all around today huh
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: Nah, the other one I just never really learned.  This one I did :P
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: it seemed to work for me for a regexp
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: hmm unfortunately it also matched shopkee
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: I can't get it to match shopkeeper.  Unless I'm doing something else wrong.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: shop(keeper|)
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: that would be it, Hargreaves... my brain's not really working today either--glad someone's is.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: My syntax works fine...just didn't realize that Lua pattern matching wasn't full regex.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dark Ryder Lupercus Tech: Anyone have issues with the MushClient and Vista?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: no
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: most of the comments seems to be run it as admin or turn off UAC
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dark Ryder Lupercus Tech: Okay, that might help. Just got this computer and it keeps coming up saying that it doesn't have access to Aardwolf.mcl
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dark Ryder Lupercus Tech: But I think I got it fixed. Thanks.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: oh no, ologn
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Smart move! Ilidar tries to start some discussion about the weather, hoping no one noticed his last mischan.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: is there anyway to have your inventory dispplay in mushclient?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: Nick Gammon was working on a script. Thing is, as far as I know, there aren't any tags or special way to differentiate inventory from anything else.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: It's possible though...you'd have to do it yourself as far as I can tell.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: what was that i was in battle and didnt read it in timne
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: you mean like {equip/} ?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: no a constant window like big map
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: use history to see it. '<channel> -h'
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: so, tech -h
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: nah I meant aren't the equip tags for that?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: there are equip tags?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: Well maybe Nick Gammon has a working script, then. Go to MUSH's forums and look.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: ok thanx
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: ah okie - it does the tag around 'eq' not 'inv'
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: inv for the inventory tag :)
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: how do i open a new tab?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: ah....good stuff.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Bah. Is there any application/filter program that will make a "3D" video appear normal? :\
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Apparently no one has any clue. :\
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Trying to watch a video that was in 3D, but I don't have the friggin' glasses for it. :\
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Yeah - do you get to run across fields and play catch when they let you out?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: go get some glasses!
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: erm mis
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: cross your eyes a bunch
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: No!
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I can't cross my eyes. :(
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: is there a way in cmud, to make the option in the speedmenu that you last selected be the default double click action, like in zmud
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I believe so, but I forget how.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Simetra Tech: umm, i`m using a new laptop (toshiba) and it`s a multi language keyboard. anyways, i think i changed my keyboard settings somehow. anyone know how i can change it back so `shift 3`gives me the pound signI right now it`s a backslash
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: tried region and language settings?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Simetra Tech: woots. i tried everything and shift. one of em worked
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: if i remember right, the keyboard layout is there
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Simetra Tech: yah. didn't work though i did nuke the french settings
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: ctrl shift
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Simetra Tech: ctrl shift didn't work, but i think the toshiba sign and shift or alt shft did it. thanks, guys
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Simetra Tech: i think it was a combo of alt and another key. thanks again guys. turning tech off. :)
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: how do u do #loop commands to look at 1-5.mob?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: #look {count=%eval(ount+1); look ount.ob}
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: #look {count=%eval(2ount+1); look @count.@mob}
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: #look {count=%eval(@count+1); look @count.@mob}
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: i think that should work
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: jeeze talk about necroing a thread :P
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: lol
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: thanks =) not working with this app tho jmc
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: mah bad, i jsut glimped at my global cap window and apperently it was on my tech so it didnt update
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: #count not a valid command either
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: not #count
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: i think #loop
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: although i think just made an endless loop so becareful
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: #loop {2,5} {get all %0.chest} 
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Palladius Tech: are there MMC scripts for aardwolf?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Palladius Tech: -g
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ologn Tech: yeah
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: anyone know a good free web host ?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: does anyone know a good site to help people trasition from zmud to mushclient scripting and commands ? 
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I seem to be getting problems with "scan ." -- has it changed?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salivanth Tech: on the Aardwolf Client, I went to a help file, and now I can't get back to the original 3-window setup. How do I get it back to normal>
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salivanth Tech: normal?*
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Killerbunny Tech: type initaard
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salivanth Tech: thanks
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 590mb of usage left on my broadband to last me 9 days
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: who do you have that limits you like that?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: have 15gb a month, just used a lot early on
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: don't cut me off after 15gb, just cut my speed down a lot ;-)
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: down from 8mbit down to 128k
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: ouch lol
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: what do you pay for that a month?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 20 quid
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: how quaint, metered broadband
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 99% of uk broadband is metered
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: what is that like in dollars?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: $28ish
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: figure it out yourself you lazy american =p
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: what is that like in canadian $?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: well the uk is a quaint place
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: poor infrastructure, most of the network is copper cable
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: but it's 8mbit, unshaped connection normally, which is far better than anything the big companies offer
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: what with the downloading I do I bet I do about 15GB in 5 days
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: watch alot of movies
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i had a blitz earlier on in the month, normal usage barely tops 300mb a day
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: downloading tv shows using the catchup services accounts for most of it
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: would suck if they started to meter here in the states
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: heh imagine one hd movie 8gbs gg -_-
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no point downloading a hd movie here, no hd tv
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: nah at least 720p to fit a 17inch monitor :P
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 720p isn't true hd
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: yea. still beats the normal vcd quality i couldn't switch back after watching them
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 1080p is true hd
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathr Tech: 720p is acceptable on any TV 32" or smaller though
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the big joke is that satellite and cable wants consumers to pay extra for HD tv
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: yup
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: vcd tends to be what, 720x576?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: im not too sure lol. but seeing they are normally 300mb vs 8gb heh
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: a 1/4 of that
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 300mb for a movie? that's not vcd, vcd will be 700mb
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: vcd quality can be encoded in say x.264 to around 300MB without any loss of "quality"
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: y'all know what VCD stands for, right? :P
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: yea :P
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: lossy always loses something
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: Venereal Cool Disease
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tigernuts is correct, 700MBs
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: x.264 isn't vcd
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: it can be encoded into other formats though
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it can't
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then it's not vcd
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: mmm vcd rips?:P lol no idea
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vcd IS the format
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: standard dvd quality really isn't far from 720p
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: i think we're talking about vcd quality, who uses vcds anyway? it had only ever been popular in SE asia
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: vcd -- video CD ?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Xyliz.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: yea lol. 
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's why they were 700 or so MBs
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: perceived quality of vcd depends on length of footage, quality of source, quality of encoder, material content
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: how does length of video affect quality?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're usually somewhere around halfway between vhs and dvd
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: shorter the footage, the lower the compression ratio required to fit to 700mb, so better quality
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're not splitting them into 2 CDs (usually just done with super VCD)
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: and the mind-eye is able to tell the difference between high and low quality renditions of the same scene
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: vcd technology is only really suitable for drama type content where there are few scene changes and little movement
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: lol you guys are such connoseuirs
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: vcd popular on the pirate scene
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: if it doesnt pixelate on me im happy heheh
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Tigernuts.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: prolly see it less and less popular as people's internet speeds increase
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and storage
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: look at two close-up photographs of the detailed bark of a tree, one in color emulsion, the other in color digital -- looking at the digital version is likely to cause a distinct mental pain
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: .. as the mind-eye attempts to make sense of the digital photograph, but is unable to because something off, causing a mental pain
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: get a better camera?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: or monitor?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: yeah, call your mind stupid and attempt to fool your mind with a sligfhtly better digital resolution - what a laugh 
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: .. what some humans are willing to do to worship the digital pretender god
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: a few billion years of evolution versus less than 100 years of digital
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: evolution is overrated
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: intelligent design is the new evolution :P
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: if ya think about it intelligent design IS evolution, species thought about what worked and what didnt and went with what worked, that intelligent!
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: an individual's ability to "understand" digital imaging adapts as he/she experiences more of it.  This isn't a species evolution issue, it's a learning/adapting issue
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: evolution is supposedly genetics, which aren't altered by thought, determin who lives and who dies
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: species didn't "think", there was no grand plan, if it didn't work they died, simple
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: prove it
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: lol
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: and our modern medicine, vaccinations and handicap compensations and continuously undermining the theory anyway
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: mass adaptation is treated as evolution
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: you prove that it's evolution.  I haven't gotten eye strain from looking at digital imaging in a long time, and I'm in front of a computer pretty much 18 hours a day.  At least I have annecdotal evidence
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: if an entire species adapts to deal with a situation, evolutions will claim evolution
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: the best kind of evidence, says Dogbert
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i don't buy evolution as the means to our existance, but to deny it completely it stupid
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i think God set everything in motion, from there... sure evolution could have taken place
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: keep your notions of god off the tech channel please
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: AMEN!
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: gossip or curse
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: keep your notions of evolution off tech then, please
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: or debate
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: cuz their is no god, belongs in debate!
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you cannot prove that
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: "God" = "Energy"
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: and we are energy
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: enough said
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: whether there is or is not a God is not what we're debating... though if you don't believe in a God then I pity you, and hope you find Him
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: silly twisted boy
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the evolved mind is able to glean far more information from an actual rl images and sounds than is currently able to be depicted by digitisation of video and sound
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: god = red bull...lol
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Crayze rapidly nods twice at Creedos, in complete agreement.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: tnuts surely you've seen the ads on the buses proving there's no god?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i suppose i'll end my side of this discussion with this ->  Never argue with an idiot, onlookers may not know the differece
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: if god was energy what would energy care what it looks like?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Secretary Timeghost Tech: can we move this to debate? thx
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: I have seen evidence to the contrary that you would write off as "the devil"'s work- I'm not so quick to jump to conclusions that are based off of nothing but stories people have written to tell their children and help them grow up within society's conception of morals, and control
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Secretary Timeghost Tech: ...
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: until scientists can explain the reason and origin of existance, you can't prove the non-existance of a God entity
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Secretary Timeghost Tech: request #2 - move it to debate please. There won't be a third.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creedos Tech: oh oh
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: shouldn't you be wearing a badge?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tylen Tech: Does anyone know what TERM setting is needed so that backspace characters work and enter doesn't dipsplyay a ^M?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: stty erase 
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: stty erase ^H is the backspace?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: stty erase <press backspace here>
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tylen Tech: They both work fine ni the terminal, but when telnetting it's messed up
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: so which terminal are telnetting with?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amigan Tech: gnome-terminal?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tylen Tech: I'll try that.. maybe ^V^H would set it, too? (sstty erase ^V^H)
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tylen Tech: I'm running within a screen session
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: meh different rules for screen I think?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: I'm out of this - I haven't used screen in like ten years
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tylen Tech: brb.. let me try a few things. there isn't a penalty for joining and disconnecting several times in a row, is there?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Nah, just annoying
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wolfturn Tech: If i wanted to make my website have a membership option were i can add and delete members, people can register, i can send out newsletters and i can make a forum. How would i go about making that?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wolfturn Tech: Oh, and i want to make it all from scratch
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wolfturn Tech: anyone know what language i would need to learn
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wolfturn Tech: and how i would do that
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: you'd seriously be better off to use a PHP-based solution and customize it to fit your site...
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: It's not a bad idea to learn php any way, you'll use it a lot on websites
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: Most modern boards and backend databases are being done with php...but that's an awful lot of coding if you want to write your own forum and user management tools from scratch--like 6 mos or more working full-time just on them, without considering time to develop content...
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tylen Tech: so, apparently the standard telnet program bundled with all linux distros doesn't work with aardwolf
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tylen Tech: so, i'm instead connecting with "socat readline tcp-connect:aardmud.org:23"
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tylen Tech: not the cleanest thing, but it seems to work..
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Not completely true - you told us earlier you're using screen, that alters things
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tylen Tech: actually, i tried it outside of screen, same thing
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: shouldn't make any difference really - which terminal are you using gnome? xterm?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tylen Tech: i tried konsole, gnome-terminal, and xterm
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tylen Tech: basically, i'm ssh'ing to another machine and running from a screen session there
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: Why does %eval(2/20) show 0 ?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: have to use float()
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: float shows 0,0
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: %eval(%float(2)/20)
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: this works :) thank you
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: ZMUD/CMUD Question: Anyone know what command/function would best be used to count the number of times a string occurs in a list?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: well if it helps it'll probably have 'str' in it
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hmm. You could swear Remind Hargreaves has been here just a second ago. You wonder where he went ...
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Yeah, looking through everything pattern matching I can find... Ugh, the CMUD manual is a mess compared to the ZMUD manual. :/
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: check out %countlist, not sure if its in cmud
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: in tf, I'd use strstr, anything like that in zmud?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Linoge: Countlist doesn't quite do what I want... I want the number of times a string occurs in the list, not the number of occurrences of a specific item in a list... If you can recognize the difference I'm saying. I DID try that though, haha.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: well pos seems to be the equivalent of strstr, but it only returns the first occurence
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Yep... Need some way to return the number of occurrences... I could just trim the list from the pos that pos returns and increment a temporary variable, but I wanted to avoid bringing in a variable if possible...
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rae'ven Durvasas Tech: On this mushclient i downloaded (version 4.37) how do i set an alias to cast a series of spells (ie cast 72 
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: You'd look for a spellup plugin someone already wrote
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rae'ven Durvasas Tech: any idea where i should look?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: there's some forum post - Abelinc has it when he wakes up
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rae'ven Durvasas Tech: ok thanxs
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Simetra Tech: heya guys. using a trial version of cmud on my new laptop here (had zmud bought from before, but it won't run). 
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Simetra Tech: anyways, it's not saving my settinsg. how do i 'run it as admin'?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Simetra Tech: using windows vista
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right-click, properties
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Simetra Tech: anywhere? or on the main screen?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: no, on the icon that you clicked to run it
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd also look at why zmud's not running for you...plenty of people run zmud on Vista
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Simetra Tech: got it. thanks. :)
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Simetra Tech: hmm i read that on the cmud email that vista doesn't support zmud...
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vista supports zmud just as much as it supports cmud
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you need to run as admin, which you're having to do anyway
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: that just means Zugg won't answer questions about zmud if you run it on vista
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: that's what 'support' is
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: zugg won't answer crap about zmud even if you're not running vista :P
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Well yeah, so I can't really see the issue either :D
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Simetra Tech: ah, ok. i'll try it :)
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Simetra Tech: weird. i'm still getting global echos on whatever i type despite the setting being off...
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Simetra Tech: thanks guys. brb. gonna log off and try getting back on with my zmud. you guys saved me 30 bucks. :)
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Simetra Tech: woohoo! reinstalled my license key for zmud. everything's back to how it used to be! thanks guys. :)
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You clap at his performance.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhAt Ninja Wereturtle Tech: I'm having MCCP issues, anyone know how to help?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: what client
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhAt Ninja Wereturtle Tech: CMUD, it was working fine until a week ago
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: srry idk. not familiar with cmud
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: MCCP is enabled by default.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhAt Ninja Wereturtle Tech: if you're wondering, I'm a registered user of the program, I just can't navigate the help files
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhAt Ninja Wereturtle Tech: my langue primaire est Francais
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: lol that might cause issues
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: there has to be a setting you changed in the last week
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: If it tells you that you're not getting MCCP compression (type 'compress' to find out) then I can guide you where to enable it.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhAt Ninja Wereturtle Tech: I don't understand the MUD help well enough to get anything from it that I don't already know
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhAt Ninja Wereturtle Tech: anyway, I'm still trying... I'll report back if I solve the problem, otherwise, advice is appreciated
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: reinstall it?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Wereturtle: Go to Session: Emulation: second column. All should be checked except Strict Telnet.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhAt Ninja Wereturtle Tech: okay, I think I did that right... I'll be back
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhAt Ninja Wereturtle Tech: I think it is working now, thank you :)
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhAt Ninja Wereturtle Tech: it's absolutely ridiculous, but all I had to do was uninstall a recent windows update and restart my comp
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhAt Ninja Wereturtle Tech: now I'm getting error messages from Java, but that I can deal with, lol
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Any problems with the stats pugin on Windows 7 Beta? My Stats window acts like I haven't logged in yet. No big deal, just curious.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: MushClient
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A rotten Potato Tech: i have it running just fine, havent seen any strange issues
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: I installed aard client then udated MushClient. Did you do anything more?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Maybe you typed more accurately 
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: I am going to let my Win7 install settle down and try installing the client again
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Palladius Tech: anyone tried mcl ?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A rotten Potato Tech: i have mine running in a virtual machine, not a local install.  Doubt it has any difference
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: a new windows 7 flaw was released :)
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: better in beta then live :)
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Palladius Tech: anyone tried mcl ? or mmc ?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: anybody here ever try to write an advanced leveling bot that goes from one area to another as it levels, re-wears equipment, and can automatically go from level 1 to level 201 overnight? =\
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: www.whatsonedmonton.com/levelbot.c
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: and www.whatsonedmonton.com/questbot.c
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: wow...
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crayze Tech: ran it for 6 morts, I'm about to get nuked though so be safe lol
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Palladius Tech: my fucking god
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Palladius O
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: yea its called illegal
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Palladius Tech: it's called talent
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Palladius bows before Crayze.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: interesting
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: poker?!
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: it's called talent at coding, but very illegal to employ in such a manner here. I'll recognize the talent, but..
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: guess we don't be seeing him for 6 months, but that was impressive
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Not really.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: People try it, and get nuked.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Palladius Tech: so it's a bait 
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Palladius Tech: >.> how low.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: and he's frozen himself, so that's no biggie
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: they should ban Gritz for botting
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It's not bait. :P
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: And you need to watch your language on tech, Pallidus.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: Charn too!
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Palladius Tech: what is it then ?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Someone who's mad and wants to try to take a jab at the system.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: If you use it, that's your choice. Not Crayze's. Crayze just provided you the tools. You know the rules.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhAt Ninja Wereturtle Tech: wow, I think he deserves to get IP banned, but I might be over-reacting
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: some parts like the directions are weird
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: if he can write that, im sure he can get his IP changed from his ISP
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: IP bans are dumb
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhAt Ninja Wereturtle Tech: hmm, then he should be IP banned, and someone should have a chat with his ISP, lol, j/k
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Palladius Tech: who else wants on ignore list
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: you also don't know if his 'ip' is shared with a few thousand students at the same uni
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: yup, my isp gives random ips....
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: well we don't, the imms may
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhAt Ninja Wereturtle Tech: very valid point, but how can anyone condone spreading information like that in the forum that it is designed to exploit?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: whats the point of botting anyway? takes away the fun of powering up yourself
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Palladius Tech: not being a loser
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhAt Ninja Wereturtle Tech: my thoughts almost exactly
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Wild Heafmo Tech: to filter out those who would do such things? maybe his intentions are of good nature
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Well it's not like we can't understand it - putting something like that on tech is action of a spoilt child personality wh didn't get their own way
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Wild Heafmo Tech: i'm sure if it's so readily available it'd be easily spotted?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: bots are pretty easily spotted out. You may get away with it for a bit, but in the end you'll be caught...:p
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Althalus nods at A Wild Heafmo.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Althalus Tech: bots are quite easy to catch.  :P
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhAt Ninja Wereturtle Tech: so bots are kind of like people that play poker right after watching an advanced training video?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhAt Ninja Wereturtle Tech: IE. Very exploitable?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: I wonder if he built in responses to 'hello are you there, you scummy <bleep> you just killed my wounded mob'
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Palladius Tech: yes
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Palladius Tech: if it is so easily available, then 5 makes you 10 that it's bugged
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhAt Ninja Wereturtle Tech: cool... don't mind me if I start messing with your triggers, inform me, lol :)
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: btw, for all of you who went bouncing off to see if you too could bot along to Aard ... did you consider he's logged your ip addresses?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: It's the stealing of my cookies that I'd be more worried about. Those are my cookies.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Never mind cookies, Argot, I got something here for you
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You know, it cracks me up that Palladius places me on ignore for asking someone to not curse on a nocurse channel then saying that if anyone wants to take Crayze's bot as their own, they can do so, but at their own risk. :\
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus sighs.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grasshacker Tech: Charn's bot is well-spoken. ;p
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Yep!
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: Charneus' bot is rude =)
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Haha!
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Hardly! :(
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Torunkes hands a rotted, decaying, severed thumb to Alt. Helpa Charneus.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus steals away into the night on his bot, giving you wedgies, flipping you off, and telling you to shut the hell up!
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: very well said, though. The only triggers I use split my chat and tells out separate windows and drink from carafe when I'm hungry/thirsty... 
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: I have one that plays a loud train noise when qt is 0 on tick
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: triggers i use a lot...
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silky Beldaran Tech: GIl
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silky Beldaran Tech: who wants a really shitty brand new psu? :)
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: I just have a trigger that alt-tabs away from pr0n to my client whenever it's qtime
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: yeah try barter
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Now if you could just update it to alt-tab when parents enter your room too
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Really, it's the truth. If you want to bot, fine. Do so. But you know the rules, and you know the consequences. It's like the guy who goes 90 in a 50mph zone. If you get caught, expect to be dealt with accordingly. Thing is, you WILL get caught. The Imms are not stupid. Some of them have the knowledge of how to create their own bots, so they know what to look for.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: pfft...I don't live with my parents! :'(
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Yeah. Argot lives with his grandparents.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Oh that's cheating
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: my uncle lives with his 89 yr old mother.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: By the way, that was in no way condoning the usage of a bot.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silky Beldaran Tech: psst, it was all bout college and 8 hours of leveling per day :p
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: but grandparents are good, they can't get up the stairs without you hearing the whirr of the stairlift
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus snickers with Remind Hargreaves about their shared secret.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Just Blame Halo Tech: the thing about botting is, those who play fair, only resent those who do bot, and if they come back, the playerbase figures out pretty quick who they are, and they pay for it in the end. Nuking doesnt mean much to a bot, if it did, they wouldnt bot in the first place.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: It's a paradox I guess, I'm too stupid to write a bot, but also to clever to want to write one
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Heh. "OMG! You nuked me! I put in SO much effort! I mean, I actually had to type 'bot on' to activate it! :( :( :("
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: I don't even type bot on. My bot knows when I want it to do its thing.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: tell that one to my son, Hargreaves...my parents walk pretty quietly. In general, I prefer knowing I got the levels honestly--in fact, I rarely even group because of that..
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Yeah Argot's bot is wired to his pants
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: my bot ai helps me out with the gossip and tech channels!
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I'll be honest - I could easily write a bot, and I know how to make it somewhat undetectable. In fact, I have in the past (on a different MUD). But I didn't respect that MUD, and it was somewhere just to waste time. Then I came to Aardwolf, and have too much respect for it to break the rules. *blink*
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: somebody wasn't loved as a child -- turning to your bot's ai for social help :(
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: it's evolution~
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Argot beams with pride at Kirua.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: soon we'd be writing bots to chat up one another on online chats
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Boten Anna
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silky Beldaran Tech: if you could write a human-like bot
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silky Beldaran Tech: that's worth money :p
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silky Beldaran Tech: lots of money
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: priceless
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Money? I've got money. Do you have money?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Few attempts at doing that one - Eliza for example
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silky Beldaran Tech: shrug, people will sell it
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silky Beldaran Tech: ah good ole eliza
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: No, I'm not trying to sell anything. How's the weather?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Many attempts, actually Hargreaves.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus turns on his chat-AI.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silky Beldaran Tech: anyways, I hope everyone here has money, otherwise you better be working now instead of mudding :p
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: Don't be shy, Charneus. You better swallow.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: the weather is fine how are the fishes?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: if u have the skills to code scripts, you're better of putting that time into companies willing to pay 6 digits for that stuff, or hit the black market
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silky Beldaran Tech: heh
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: You want me to do what?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silky Beldaran Tech: black market chatbots = phishing :p
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Torunkes: That may be, but most companies want you to have a degree so they can blame you for screwing something up and no one gets mad at them too much because the person they hired didn't have a degree.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Why would your mother do that?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Agreed, Torunkes. People who write bots are wasting their time -- they're generally somewhat talented people, but using your efforts towards a bot...
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: I wrote a bot once. It went around in the Academy and slayed butterflies! :D
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Slew
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I'll tell you what. I'll script you a bot. For CMUD/zMUD. You pay me money for it, I'll sell it to you. However, EULA will read: You are the sole owner of this bot. Do not distribute this bot to anyone else. -- and a disclaimer will read: You accept any and all responsibilities/consequences for this bot. You cannot blame Charneus when you get nuked.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Usually it's people who won't accept that working involves doing about 99.9% of what you don't want to do
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: Good call! Unfortunately I was SH so it didn't do me much good! :p
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: Charneus, I am one of the many who take advantage of FTA, free to air television, free satt dish tv networks, the companies however come out with electronic counter measures every so often (big PPV events), and there are scripters that break that code and distribute it for some mad loot. College degrees not required. =) I don't code, but I definately abuse that system.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: You were getting gold... I don't recommend doing it again
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: I'm just teasing, Oladon :)
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: I shan't do it ever!
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: You're a very naughty boy Argot :P
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: I wrote a bot once.  It sat around and chatting on tech about how cool I was for not using a bot.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: but then, this is a different script and not a bot per se so point is moot =)
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: you wish, harg
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Palladius Tech: -
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Galnor Tech: anyone know when / if windows7 beta build 7000  expires ?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: anyone knows how to make an alias in mush without going through all the clicking? (using commandline)
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: yes it does in june if im not mistaken
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: that will teach you to fuck with me ill break my own shit :P
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: mistell
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Impotent Inicus laughs out loud at HelperMan Hadar.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i broke my sql database :P
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grasshacker Tech: Better to break other people's.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: why its funner to break mine after i just spent 35min on the phone with tech support for them to tell me they cant help me ... i hate sql
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: anyone know how to flushDNS on a mac
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: got it
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: I'm having a problem on my website, (the text doesn't Want to appear) anyone want to take a look and tell me why? (URL coming in 1 sec)
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: http://www.wolfturn.nrgs.org/Videos.html
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: whenever i highlight the text, it become "viewable" but if you highlight it again, it hides again
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vengance Tech: anyone have any problems running mushclient on windows vista? i closed it and now im trying to reoppen it and it says something is wrong
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: NO! AND THATS FINAL!
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Darth Vadar meeps! Maybe you should too!
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amigan Tech: could be to do with admin priviledges when saving the world (?)
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vengance Tech: i have the admin thing turned off
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dark Ryder Lupercus Tech: What is it saying then?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vengance Tech: just a messege that MUSHclient has stopped working and asks to close it
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dark Ryder Lupercus Tech: Try re-installing? I'm on Vista and the only issue I had was the Admin Privs.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hurley Tech: anyone know where i can get a good spellup plugin for mush?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: On the MUSH website.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: doesn't the spellup command work well enough?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hurley Tech: no
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: use the spellup command :)
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: why not?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hurley Tech: too many spells, i need to be able to create my own list
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Because the spellup command isn't logical enough yet.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It's not customizable, the way a script can be.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: hmm... maybe i don't have that many spells yet, but i'm doing fine with the forgetspell command...
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hurley Tech: nods, i'd have to type it 3 or 4 times with multiple filters to get the same effect as a relatively simple plugin
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: i did a macro for mine
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hurley Tech: i also switch aligns twice each mort, that changes the list of spells, and macros/aliases cant easily be used to spell up others
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: ah, thats a point i missed
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hurley Tech: what's the command to keep bigmap from popping up automatically?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: If you get a domain through godaddy.com, will you be able to run php off it?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: if you simply just register a domain (from anywhere not just godaddy) all you have is the right to use that domain, to use that domain you need to find pay for a host
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: Thats what i mean, if i find a domain and host through godaddy, It will be as simple as loading my php script into their server, and it should work fine, right?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: i've no idea what hosting options godaddy provides, if they say they have php support then in theory yes you just upload your scripts
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: php's website should have some pointers to "recommended" hosts
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Axefairy Tech: hmm, windows7beta is lookin pretty sweet, i just installed it to a VM
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Axefairy Tech: yay the aard mushclient seems to work under windows7beta, i will report to MS and tell them they can proceed with the release now
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: anyone here got any ideas why a laptop would work fine on battery power and have the screen go immediately black and refuse to respond when the power brick is plugged into it?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: wrong voltage?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: a short circuit somwhere?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Axefairy Tech: short in power pack
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: same power brick I've been using for over a year with no issues...
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Axefairy Tech: well it's broken now
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: hardware problem most likely...
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: I'll have to find someone with a Dell brick to test it with theirs then.. :/ Not in the budget to replace the brick this month without cutting food seriously...
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Axefairy Tech: your laptop is detecting external power has been plugged in and switches from battery to mains, but no power is coming from mains
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Axefairy Tech: put a volt tester on the output of the power pack
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Axefairy Tech: or stick it on your tounge... i do that sall the time
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: will have to do that later... thanks for suggestions. :) as far as sticking on my tongue--it's one of the Dell ones with the three pins that go into it...
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kirua stand bys to do cpr....
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Axefairy Tech: lol, it's like putting a 9v battery on your tounge, just a little buzz
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: I'm not about to do that, Kirua...besides, not practical for this adapter...
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varlinheim Tech: Anyone know about Efficient Leveling on Oblivion? First-hand successful experience?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: is there any reason why zmud prevents me from saving captured text from a trigger containing square brackets into a variable?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: i don't see it being used as a special character in my settings
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vengance Tech: anyone know where i can DL the various plugins to make mushclient aardmush? i had trouble installing aardmush on my computer for some reason
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're not available as standalone currently
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vengance Tech: fudge...
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: only option is to grab the files from a computer that does have it installed
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: might want to work on why you had problems installing it though
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: on the Aard tech board there is a site on Aard, I had to remove the old Mushclient and load the Aard d/load
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vengance Tech: Im not sure why, I installed it, then installed the seperate spellups.mcl plugin. I used it for days, then yesterday i closed it and tried to reopen it and then VISTA said it has problems opening
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vengance Tech: and that was the Aardmush
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: past my paygrade
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you didn't try reinstalling aardmush first...
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vengance Tech: i did
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vengance Tech: same issue
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: vista might be the key word here - are you running it as admin?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you need to be more specific for the "vista said it has problems opening"
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vengance Tech: i wish i could be more specific, vista wasnt even that specific
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vista was specific enough, though...did you bring up the exact text of the error message you got to this channel when it came up?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vengance Tech: ok heres what it says, MUSHclient has stopped working. A problem caused the program to stop working correctly. Windows will close the program and notify you if a solution is available
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, so that tells us that it isn't a problem opening, it's being terminated unexpectedly
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vengance Tech: ok
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vengance Tech: any idea what might cause it to do that?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Axefairy Tech: corrupted registry entries ?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vengance Tech: oi that doesnt sound like fun
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Axefairy Tech: yeah
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Axefairy Tech: have you tried ime stuff like chkdsk x: /F
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Axefairy Tech: have you tried simple stuff like chkdsk x: /F
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Axefairy Tech: incase it's bad files
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vengance Tech: no, this just happened the last night and to say the least, im not very computer savvy...troubleshooting at the least
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Axefairy Tech: when i get random errors first thing i always do is chkdsk
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Axefairy Tech: hey has anyone here made linux work on virtualPC07SP1  ?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: any small business-network/software literate people out there want to give me a bit of advice?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: i use ms small business I don't claim literate
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 3 desktop pc's, need to be able to have a shared contacts book, have 3 shared calendar/appointments books, 3 shared to-do lists, 3 email addresses + 1 shared
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what's going to be the best way?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: Outlook 2007 with Business Contact Manager -looks- like it might do the job, but not sure of it's network capability
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: ms does not recomend running outlook on a server, I would try a shared folder on one of the clients
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: there is no server
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: windows small business server standard edition
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: run it on the least-used existing system
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: sbs doesn't have outlook
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sbs has exchange...outlook is the client
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: use exchange
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: does exchange do appointments/calendars/to do's, and is it compatible with stardard pop/smtp mail accounts?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tigernuts, yes, yes, yes, yes, and yes
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so what you're saying is yes, then?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: he
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: exchange practically invented appointments, calendars, todos
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i have sbs, so i'll go have a play
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not going to have to set up domains and shit, am i?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: it's fairly automatic
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you *should* be using a domain...domains simplify things, not complicate them
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Wyverex seems to think you have the right idea.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: w/o a domain i couldn't manage 200+ users
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: should, though in my experience they never do
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when johnny wants to sit at mary's computer, not having to ask mary what her password is a plus
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your experience is non-existent
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: ouch and hehe
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: my experience is with small groups of users/pc's, and mostly in a non-sever environment
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: the only way domains fubar things is when you have too many it personnel creating GPOs and not telling you when they've stuck one in your OU.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so this non-server environment had a domain...interesting, and impossible
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hence your "experience" is nonexistent
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you're having trouble reading today, abe?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no trouble at all
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so how you've suddenly jumped to an assumption that i'd said that a given non-server environment had a domain is bizarre
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you were asked about your experience with domains...and you responded non-server
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you were the one with the reading comprehension issue
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try to keep up with the continuity of the discussion
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no, i said that in my experience they never simplify things
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: qed :P
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: all mackeral live underwater, and all mackeral are fish, so all fish live in trees, qed
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my experience with domains says this...what experience...my experience in non-server situations...
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: again you lost the 'mostly'
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: asking if exchange works with email systems says lots of your "experience"...
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i have very limited experience with servers, it's true, but being ascerbic about it is only massaging your ego, and being of little real benefit to me
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you have no experience with domains, which is why you're under the impression that they complicate things
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'll derive the benefit that you choose
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: means i'd have to set everyone with administrator accounts ;-)
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: whats new on windows ?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: is it windows' fault, or is it software writers who expect users to be admin?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: you would set up outlook on each client to see express
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: it's the whole culure thats built up around windows and bad MS implementations over decades
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: barely decades, kitaro, nt hasn't been arount -that- long
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: MS has been the most popular turd polisher around for a long time, lol
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: can you run outlook on sbs and connect it to sbs on the same pc?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: or does it scream at you and say that the two aren't compatible?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: sorry, connect it to exchange server running on sbs on the same pc
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: Tigernuts if you own the $700 worth of SBS It's worth learning it it will do what you want
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i have access to it, and no it didn't cost me $700, and nor does it cost that new
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: on the SBS the recomendation is outlook express
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's still a lot of work to set it all up if someone can just say "it'll work"
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: now that people have left my office...what?!? you'd need to set people up with admin accounts for a domain?!? what are you smoking?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no, abe, for using their computers in the way they have come accustomed to
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and doing that on a domain is easier than doing it without a domain
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 4 computers, 4 employees, to let everyone be an admin on every computer in a domain requires 16 steps...to do so on a domain requires 4 steps
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err first is w/o domain
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well, you can borrow some of my anti-depressants if you like, abe
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why would I be depressed? I'm not the one beating my head against a wall instead of actually listening to people who *do* have experience with this stuff
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if i wasn't listening, i wouldn't be asking questions about it, would i?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: what's a domain!?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: that's unusual though, a brit offering a yank meds :D
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: i know i can finger one :(
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: now, having to use outlook express on the sbs would cause major difficulty
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: rawr emo geek chest beating and face palming is funny
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: since o.e doesn't have access to appointments.calendars, and it's just not the same as the other two
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's extremely soho, I'd still run outlook on the sbs, as that's another staff computer
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if it'll let me, abe
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: I suppose you could run SBS in a VM on one of the machines, 
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i've never been much of a fan of running multiple vm's
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: im hazy on this, it's been a while, but isnt running outlook on a machine with exchange evil ?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: you can run outlook on the SBS machine but it not the best practice as listed by MS
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's what i was worried about, kitaro
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: can you use the web based mail instead ?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: myopic, it's not best practice because best practice is to leave a server as a server...it's not evil or anything else bad
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: well using a server as a daily workstaion is pretty evil, lol
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: oops i downloaded a trojan and now the whole office is broken ?  o well i was gunna quit anyway
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a soho with 4 computers doesn't warrant a dedicated machine (even though you can get a $400 computer to do the job)
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i don't like the idea of using vms' because it's an extra set of software i needed, extra level of complication, and more power needed
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: think i'll start along the lines of what abe said, running sbs on one of the existing, least used pcs
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to choose which computer to act as the server, though, 2 things to consider (1) which is used the least by the staff member, and (2) which staff member's abilities are "safest"
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i used to look after heaps of soho clients, many with setups that small, and we always sold the a low-end server class box
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: can xp home and vista hp machines join a domain, or does that require xp pro/vista bus?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, when I was into soho support, we had high-end clients ;-)
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: sbs would also be good for setting up vpn connection to the network from a laptop off site
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: if you cant convice them boss to invest in a cheap dedicated server they are gunna be pain in ass clients and you should prob drop them, lol
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://vowe.net/archives/001639.html
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they probably could be convinced, kitaro, but space is a little cramped in their office
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mac Mini FTW!
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You run away in terror and horror!
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: mac minis are sweeeeet
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: was going to reccommend they replace their 1 desktop unit anyway, so i guess a seperate server box means they can continue to use the desktop
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if all it's going to do is run exchange on sbs, it's not like it needs to have much power or storage
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: spose i could set up some network shares on it for backup
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: is that xp home domain fix reliable, abe?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, it's been used for years
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: something similar for vista hp?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: hrm, claims it works on vista hp
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: right, so x-setup pro to get the two existing units to talk to a domain, and a seperate sbs server box. it's time to go have a play on my sandbox and see if this can all work together
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, not seeing any tricks for vista to join the domain, we'll probably be totally skipping over vista here (although we're fully licensed for ultimate with software assurance)
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: at the moment they have a bt business broadband modem/router combo that's acting as dhcp server. Will that setup need to change?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: let sbs do the dhcp
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: either way will work
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if the router dhcp can't be turned off then i'll shoot it
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: using an AD machine for dhcp server does make things nicer
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: a what machine?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: active directory...the sbs server is an AD domain controller
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: maintains a list of computers, printers, and network resources on the network
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nogs
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: AD is MS's ldap on steroids
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we don't run the dhcp server on our domain controllers, but they're still on win2k3 server machines in the domain
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: just wary of overcomplicating stuff for the sake of 3 pc's
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but we do have some other locations joined to the domain that are using their VPN box for dhcp server, so it doesn't have to be
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: btw, careful with that axe eugene
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: previously, when everyone was on a frame-relay setup with PVCs, the single box at central location was DHCP server for everyone, using "dhcp helper" settings so each location was served their own subnet
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: SBS2008? 
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ok, well that decision's just been made - sbs2008 isn
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: isn't out yet
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: easier to copy/paste tbh
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: woops, mis
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: wonder why standard boards aren't including sata raid these days
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: doh, they do, they just don't advertise it
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: holy god, the new 2008 server is expensive
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what a suprise
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: twice the price 2003 was
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: i've got a free license for server 08 phew :P
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maspluto Tech: in mushclient, do you use timers to prevent disconnection?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amigan Tech: some people do yes :)
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: can you use zmud maps in TF
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: grunt, the software in this quote costs twice as much as the hardware
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Wait... what's wrong with this picture? I just downloaded a video flagged as a podcast off of iTunes, but iTunes says it cannot be uploaded onto my iPod...
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}-SABU- Arystul Tech: you didn't summon it correctly? ;)
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: According to iTunes, I did
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: crippled software, perhaps
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: was this from the itunes music store, or just somewhere off the 'net?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: iTunes store.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: itunes the program can play things that an ipod cannot, since you can load codecs for itunes
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: interesting
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Denglish Tech: Sometimes it is something simple. Check your preferences.. maybe you have videos disables, or the rating, or there isn't enough space.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: If anyone wants to take a crack at it, search for "He's Just Not Into You: Ten Chick Flick Cliches that are NOT in this movie." (And FYI, I have not seen the movie, I just thought the short was funny)
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: iTunes tells me straight up it cannot be copied onto my iPod because my iPod cannot play it.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: so what's the problem then?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I know we (library system) contract with a company to offer downloadable audiobooks, and some of the books have different restrictions for the DRM...some can be burned to CD, some cannot, etc but I'd never heard of the same with ITMS
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: The problem is that it's a movie downloaded from iTunes Store, so I expect it to be, you know, playable on iPods.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: you expect too much :)
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's an Apple product, you therefore need to have a Snob license, don't you?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: BTW, it's a free download. So feel free to download it yourselves to check.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Denglish Tech: There is an option you can choose to format a video for your iPod. I think it is a "right-clickable" thing for each item.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm one of those 'heathens' who can't see the point in an ipod
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: same here tigernuts
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: you're a zune fan!
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hey, at least it's not zune
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: mp3 players are just as good
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Re-encoding stuff will unavoidably worsen the quality. I'm trying to find out of there's another way out of it, if it's just a glitch of some kind.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: don't see the point in any portable mp3 player
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: do you ever run or workout?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: unless you're a jogger or have a long commute on a train or something
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i have a portable phone for that
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: "mp3 players"...that's a category, of which ipod is a member...perhaps you meant "other mp3 players"
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I like iPods because: 1) They play x264, yay and 2) Good dollars -> gB ratio (if you buy the 160 gb model)
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: thanks abelinc, you're nit picking was quite useful yet again
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: your*
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Denglish Tech: To play music when you are not by a stereo or computer, and to give far more specificity than the radio.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, when you say "mp3 players are as good as an mp3 player", you didn't actually say anything
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Agent Dashiell . o O ( the zune is a greater $/gb buy )
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i never said that
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: at home i always have access to music, at work ditto, in my car. Where else am i likely to me and need music? ;-)
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: for me it's needless, for others, maybe, seems more like a fashion accessory tho
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WeaponGuy Tech: The shower.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: tigernuts, i agree... i run/jog and otherwise work out.... doing so in silence is only so much fun
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Denglish Tech: I guess they just help me out. I'm a music major and they are the easiest way to play with recordings in the practice room.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i also like to listen to audio books, so with an mp3 player i can walk around the house/outside and listen without interruption
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: actually, a lot of people use mp3 players for audiobooks
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: which is a good idea
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: most phones can do that these days
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: most phones don't have the ability to have anywhere near the capacity, unless you want to start carrying tons of cards to swap
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Most phones have storage quotas the size of a marble.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: but yes, phones can do that
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: the iphone, for example, can sort of do it
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: too many phones yet still have addressing issues and can't access large cards
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: what i don't want to do is pay for the phone that can do it
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: my phone takes 8 gig micro-sd's. that's enough for me
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: my phone came free with the plan
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why would you need huge capacity?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Denglish Tech: Once you get that though, you are storing all of your technological functions into one unit. They perform much better on their own.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: so yeah, sure, phones can do it and that's cool and everything... but i don't want to buy it
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Besides, why would I want to use a phone both for listening to music and calling/texting people? It'd require me to charge it all the time. Unless there's some kind of magical phone nowadays that can do all three for hours on end with just one charge.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 20 albums per gig, how on earth much more do you want?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shiruyumi Tech: 20 albums per gig? How short are your songs, 2 mins?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Denglish Tech: It really depends on the quality of the sound files Tigernuts.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: the SD consortium are total d!ckheads, they keep updating the specs for minimal increases capacity leading to no forwards compatibility
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: 20 albums per gig? In what universe? Or are your albums all encoded in 160 kbps?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: mp3 players are perfect for me... if i'm listening to music or an audiobook... i don't want to talk on the phone
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i don't like the ipod because i don't like itunes
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: low bitrate files. mp3 players/phones don't have a great output anyway
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 50mb per album is pretty easy
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: No wait, 20 albums her gig requires you mp3s to be encoded in LESS than 128 kbps, like the 96 kbps-range!
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i use the zen mosaic, personally
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: and for audio books high bitrate is a waste
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 44mb for a 128mbps album, 13 tracks
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but audiobooks are simply long as hell
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: wtf? mbps?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Just because MP3 players aren't as good as your home entertainment system at outputting sound doesn't mean you should use phones which are WORSE at it and encode your files in 96 or less kbps or whatever.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 65mb for a 160, 11 tracks
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: now that's quality
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Tigernuts, that's a 50-minute or so album. That's a short album.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i agree yuna, but if a phone is more handy and more fitting for you then there's no reason why not to
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Most of my albums are 60-80 mins.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shiruyumi Tech: It's not about track amount, it's album length. I've got 79 minute albums.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 50-75mb for albums ripped in my favourite format, which is variable bitrate
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: 128 kbps is still shoddy quality.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shiruyumi Tech: 77 minute album, 154 MB.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 128kbps is as good a quality as your source and encoder
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, but it doesn't matter if you're using earbuds
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: No, you will never ever be able to get lossless-like quality using 128 kbps.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and is fine for regular quality
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shiruyumi Tech: MP3 is always lossless.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: tigernuts, no it's not
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you'll never get lossless quality with those squitty earphones that come with mp3 players
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: And if you're using a player/headphones/earphones with less than optimal sound output, encoding your MP3s in shoddy quality will only make it WORSE.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: mp3 is always lossy
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: lossless-like quality vs 128kbps has never struck me as a huge difference
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: It's like playing a videotape that's a copy of a copy of a copy on a really old and shoddy TV.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: the only difference i've seen it make is when i burned a CD
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: for listening on my home surround sound system i prefer variable bitrate
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Scars, you need to train yours better than. The diff. between 128 and 160 is quite noticeable.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: thanks yuna, i must not be really experiencing the music or something
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars stares at the sky.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: most of my music is in flac and i hear the difference between mp3 and flac. or at least i think i do
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i can detect a very small difference between 128 and 320, but it's very small
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: BTW
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: BTW, I found out why the video doesn't play on my iPod. The people who made it bullshitted us by encoding it in 1707 kbps for the video codec. Great going whoever made "He's Just Not That Into You"!
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's only really noticable with the sharpness and clarity of the percussion
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: what i notice more than anything is the obvious difference in quality in sound when using my bose headphones vs my creative computer speakers
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Quality loss is most noticeable depending on what kind of music you're listening to.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: My iPod is chalk full of Eurobeat.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: but i've listening to 128 vs lossless on both and haven't noticed anything that was so different to make me not want to listen to it
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Trust me, the diff is quite noticeable.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: listened
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: to you, maybe
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: we don't trust you ;-)
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Scars, but you admit there's a difference.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: he doesn't have to admit it. it's a fact
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: of course there is a difference
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that's the whole idea behind it
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Thus, there's a reason why some people prefer MP3 players with high storage capacities for MP3s encoded in higher bitrates.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: but is the difference enough to matter?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it matters to me
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yeah. If you listen to Eurobeat all day, it is.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: listen to better music
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: I listen to audio books at 98k
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: for people with more money and sense :-)
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and there's those that want higher capacities simply to store more stuff :-)
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tigernuts, you mean "than"?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: + the whole I watch videos on my iPod (including movies), I have 100s of albums I do not wish to have to rotate in and out, the iPod plays x264, which is one of the best codecs out there.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Drunk'ing Abel blushes as Tigernuts gives him hawt smoochins!
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or are you now stating that those that buy the better players have more sense than those who do not, thus changing your position
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: wooops
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Why would I wish to get a cell phone and have to use 8gB SD cards? Also, cell phones usually don't play video. And their screens are waaaay tiny.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: and this is why abe is the s(
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: My blackberry curve plays them fine
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: have you not seen the new iphone or gphone?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and when they do play video, they don't output to bigger devices when warranted
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: and my PPC6800
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: with a few exceptions
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shiruyumi Tech: I don't see why we have to obsess over this that much.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: many phones can do x264
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yes, but your blackberry is neither a cell phone (strictly speaking) or an MP3-player.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Many phones still have tiny screens.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: we're talking about this because no one is bashing on norton or microsoft, shiruyumi
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Speaking of that Abe, I love my iPod -> TV cables.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shiruyumi Tech: I mean obsessing over quality.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: how is the quality on that Yuna
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: worth payin for the cables
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: As good as when played on the computer?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: it's going ot depend on the quality of your tv...
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: well i mean when stretched full screen how does it look
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: busy deleting some stray flac files
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: As good as when stretched to full screen on the computer.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: my computer monitor is much better than my old tv
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: 1500 kbps x264 at 720xwhatever is quite formidable.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Also, show me any phones (which are not the iPhone) that aren't way ovepriced which play x264 (or even those who do not) which gives out as good audio output or better than most MP3 playes.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: my blackberry does, and most MP3 players wont play via bluetooth either
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: my htc does
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shiruyumi Tech: I still use a CD player and headphones. -_-
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i'm not defending the use of phones as a source of audio listening... what i'm saying is that if you have the money and inclination to do so... it's feasible
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: coreplayer works on many phones and plays x.264
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i don't do it, obviously
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and i can copy-paste stuff. that's pretty awesome
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: am i imagining it, or are the new .docx files generated by word 07 much smaller than the .doc ones?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: HTC > mp3player
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and use bluetooth
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yes, docx is smaller  than doc
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Bluetooth has nothing to do with audio quality. And show me any such phones with large screens.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: gphone...
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: show me an ipod that can make phone calls :)
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: And the Blackberry, as far as I know, is not strictly a phone. Its main purpose is not being a phone. It's merely one giant multi-device.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and the jesusphone is ...?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Show me why I cannot use one of my 6 mobile phones (because we never throw old ones away) in conjunction with my iPod?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: the smaller file sizes are probably because it's zipped by default
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: no reason why except it's another device to carry and another device to charge
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: yuna, you're right... your way is WAY better than anyone elses, start a cult or something
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: No, I never said my way was the best or only way to do it.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: after all, anyone disagreeing is obviously blind and needs to be shown the light of the yuna-way
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Several people said they saw NO REASON to get an MP3 player.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm way better than Yuna, and we all know it
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm way better than everyone, include Abelinc
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I'm merely arguing that there are some very obvious reasons for why to get one.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: except i don't know anything about Domains
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: tigernuts was the only one who said he was no reason to get an mp3 player
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: but bill gates is still better than you
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: and then he contradicted himself by providing legitament examples
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I remember two people saying it.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: But I might have misread tigernuts saying it twice as two different people.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i see no reason to have an mp3 player, it's a personal opinion on a personal choice
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: how about a linux vs windows vs osx flamewar?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's a fashion accessory
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: to you, tigernuts - but if you ever pick up jogging, have fun doing that with just the sounds of nature
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: there's no danger of that, scars
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: No, Tigernuts, that would be you seeing no reason for YOU to have it. Unless you are arguing that all of the legit examples we just provided for you for why one would want an MP3 player are fallacious and there's no reason, in your mind, for ANYONE to get an mp3 player.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nature sucks
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: you're right, there is absolutely no danger of that at all
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: listening to music while you run doesn't have to be on super-loud either
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WeaponGuy Tech: MP3s are not a lifestyle choice... For some of us, we're born to need them.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: It's not a fashion accessory. It's, you know, AN MP3 PLAYER.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: didn't you see my exceptions, yuna? i said i could see a point if someone was jogging or had a long commute on a train or similar
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: But then why did you just say you saw no reason for MP3 players?!
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: you don't pay attention well yuna
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: for others, it's a fashion accessory to annoy the shit out of other people with
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: So you see absolutely no reason for people to eve get MP3 players... except there are exceptions?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: so, i updated my norton antivirus yesterday
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: Yuna, you are a pale immitation of Abelinc, give up, he does it much better than you
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: found a few new things
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: FOR SOME, it's a fashion accessory, just like some starlets use dogs as fashion accessories.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i sure do hate ubuntu
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I mean, I could argue the cell phone is a fashion accessory. Mine is 5 years old and I see no reason to upgrade other than to be flashy.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i really do hate beepers/pagers
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: if the alternative is vista, you'll love ubuntu
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: people still use them?!
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yeah, what the hell's up with beepers and pagers?!
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: heck yes, you fancy people with your cell phones...
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Why not just use friggin' cell phones?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WeaponGuy Tech: I needed bluetooth and my provider sold me a Motorola for $5, so I got a new one.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WeaponGuy Tech: Anipopo might be on to something: Maybe Vista is a result of the anitrust violation lawsuits. Microsoft might have been required to put out a crap OS, so people would start using other ones.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: why dose the adobe masterworks collection need 4 dvd installers -.-
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: "value" for money?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i dono -.-
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: databases in cmud same as they were in zmud? getting it to load my zmud version of the database but the querys aren't working %query(&Zone="UnderDark", Weapons) e.g.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: aww shucks, no wonder i can't download from hp's ftp site
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: went over my monthly gb limit, so they've turned off ftp and p2p and scrunched up my speed
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: fortunately, mudding isn't affected
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: however, i can remote desk to work, download it there, then copy/paste it to my local drive, huzzah!
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: woo!  i just made xubuntu 8.1 work in virtualPC... phew... not easy
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: anyone know why when i use a floating menu it puts it all the way at the top when i have it set to start somewhere else?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: In CSS?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: no JS
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: So, css.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: You can try floating the parent-- it's generally a quick fix in my experience
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I highly recommend reading up on the properties of floating elements though
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: It's probably the most difficult concept in CSS, imho
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i dont use JS that often ... and right now its only a fix for a menu while i work on some buttons
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: It's css :p
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karudeio Tech: Um... Is there a way to disable the plugin that brings up the Map in a seperate tab?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, and how to do so is explained on the webpages...but are you talking about the bigmap, or the small map?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karudeio Tech: Small map, :D.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karudeio Tech: I'll check the webpages. Thanks :3.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for the bigmap, you can tell it to just not jump to the front, using "bigmap auto off" (also mentioned on the webpages)
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 2 great pages linked off the mushclient page are the FAQ, and the plugins page
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karudeio Tech: Oh...
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karudeio Tech: On Aardwolf's or Mushclient's main site?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aard's
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karudeio Tech: Ok thanks.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karudeio Tech: Yay it worked :D.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You clap at his performance.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: if i make something in adobe cs4 is there a way to make the work station smaller, or find how the width/height of the image to make a new workstation?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Avatar Aang Tech: work station..?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Avatar Aang Tech: When you mean image, do you mean the actual size of the image itself?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: ya
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Avatar Aang Tech: or the xx by xx
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Avatar Aang Tech: Use a ruler/guides.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i was just seeing if there was a way that after i put in the Width and height to change it without making a new document ... i think thats more clear
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: nm found it i was looking for canvas size
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: Has anyone ever had any success setting up an Sqlite DB accessable from zmud using the sqliteplus com dll?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: how can i sub word only if a cerain pattern is matched in zmud? after something is matched, my current trigger will create a global sub that replaces the word everywhere
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: #trigger {#IF (%1 = west) {#SUB %1 {%ansi( white, bright)<<~%1<<}} is not working as i'd expect it to work
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the pattern is ^* leaves (%w)
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Axefairy Tech: can anyone recomment a good fixed width font for a linux/ubuntu user ?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Axefairy Tech: for mudding...   =)
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhaz Tech: Do you have the MS Core Fonts installed?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Axefairy Tech: nope
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhaz Tech: Well those will give you Courier New if you'd like that.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Axefairy Tech: i like ms fixedsys
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhaz Tech: I'm not sure if that comes with it, but it might.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: i like lucida console
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Axefairy Tech: im using monospace atm but it feels a bit wierd
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Axefairy Tech: maybe i just need to get used to it
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus is using bitstream vera mono for text. :D
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhaz Tech: What client are you using Axefairy?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Axefairy Tech: kildclient
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhaz Tech: Ok, yeah, I just started using Kild, too.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Axefairy Tech: beats the hell out of TF, lol
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhaz Tech: I couldn't figure out how to use TF, but it's definitely better than Gnome-MUD.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: tf has a learning curve, but it's rewarding
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ahh cock, can't find my sbs03 disks
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: not finding the disks totally screws up yesterdays plan
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: pirate bay to the rescue
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nah, thinking of installing server 08 on a vm to see what it's like
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: server 08 is neat
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: trouble is i'm already short on hd space
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: wats the servers job ?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: is there any quick way of making a usb flash drive dos bootable? tried Bart's mkbt, but it don't work
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: yeah i made one once... thay are a pain, and slow... i found boot cd's are faster
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not an option for this purpose, unfortunately
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: been a while... google arounf not hard to find the info
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: downloading a hp tool, we'll see
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: be warned many BIOSes are problematic
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bios won't be a problem
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: dont say that till you see it boot... lol... recent doenst mean reliable
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ok, got a different plan, got a usb cdrw drive, should work when the internal one won't
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i would think so
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: worst case you can take it out of the external enclosure
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well either my caddy's broken suddenly, or this laptop's being an arid cockmuncher and won't boot from it
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: back to square 0
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: all this because people are effing stupid and forget their passwords
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: do you need data off the lappy or doing a passwd reset ?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: passwd reset
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: and you can boot from usb or internal cd ?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: cant*
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: won't boot from usb cd, can't boot from internal cd owing to hirens not having the correct dos cd rom driver
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: windows box ?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nogs
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: made a bootable usb stick, now transferring the progs to it
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i have this cd i use, was trying to find link
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i think it's http://home.eunet.no/pnordahl/ntpasswd/cd080526.zip
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: resets administrator password to blank
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: hirens is massive overkill, lol
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: hirans has a handy tool i'm used to
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: this can run off a floppy
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: a what?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: ye olde 1.44
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what's one of those?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: tech http://www.petri.co.il/forgot_administrator_password.htm        
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: go down to        Offline NT Password & Registry Editor (v080526 - May 2008)
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i do have that you know :-)
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: cool
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i have used it heaps
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: lol lusers
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what's the betting it now won't recognise the ntfs hdd
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: if it's the one i think it is it's pretty good
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no, i'm wrong - it's done it. Job's a good'un
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: nice
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: for the final job of the day, install srver 2008 in a vm
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: can i watch paint dry?   lol
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i made xubuntu run in a VirtualPC07 yesterday... i been playing with it lots today... that was a pain to get going
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: X is always a pain in the ass
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: Is VPC better than VirtualBox?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: never used virtual box, i been a VMware users for years.... moving to virtulpc
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rampagne Tech: does anyone here own a blackberry storm or a blackberry in general? I got mine 3 days ago, charged the battery fully but it still dies after one day.. any thoughts?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malcontent Vaun Tech: is it possible to copy zmud onto a flash drive? with your settings and everythng?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Just copy the whole Zmud folder in program files?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malcontent Vaun Tech: that would let me plug into a usb on another computer and use zmud from there, right?
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: It does for MUSH, at least.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malcontent Vaun Tech: some told me it worked for zmud also, but shes a bit inactive lately
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WeaponGuy Tech: More programs need to stand alone, without having to be "installed", like Media Player Classic.
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the licensing part needs to touch the registry
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malcontent Vaun Tech: yeah, the registry part would be a concern
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malcontent Vaun Tech: or, i could just use the aard client on the her computer i suppose
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malcontent Vaun Tech: to be all supportive and whatnnot
T1/r4/2009-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if this is 2 computers that you're allowed to mess with, just install zmud straight out to both...the zmud license allows you to install it on multiple computers
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Blackdragon Tech: Does anyone know how too set up an afk script or something like that, too stay online for aards mushclient?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: type afk then ur message
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game -> configure -> timers
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hellfiend, that won't stop you from being kicked off in 15-20 mins
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: send a message every 5 minds is the easiest
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: or you could use a trigger
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just hitting enter every 10 mins :-)
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Blackdragon Tech: Ok, i see the timers, thing, then what do i do?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hit add to create a new timer, set it to every 10 mins
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Blackdragon Tech: Ok, then what? where would i add a message, or command of some sort?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the big part ;-)
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Blackdragon Tech: and that would be where i add the.... uhh... your eyes glaze over?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Blackdragon Tech: or do i just simply type some command, so it automaticaly does something every 10 min, if im not actualy doing anything?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Blackdragon Tech: ok, i set the timer to 10min, and in the big section, where it says send. i put sc, so, basicaly, every 10 min, that im not active it will hit the sc command?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's exactly what it will do...every 10 mins, it'll hit sc
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Blackdragon Tech: wether im active or not?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Blackdragon Tech: does that only work if im not active, or will it do it even if i'am active?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what does being active have to do with it?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you just told MUSH to do something every 10 mins...you told it nothing else
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it will do what you told it to...period
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Blackdragon Tech: ahh ok. i get it now. but, what would be the best way too set up a good afk timer? so, lets say im sitting in my manor, and go for a walk, 30 min show up, or how ever long the timer is that boots you shows up, and it keeps me on?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what you just did accomplishes that
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Blackdragon Tech: true enough, thans abelinc, but one last question, how long is the whole afk timer thing? is it 15, 20 or 30 min?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: around there
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Blackdragon Tech: from not doing anything till when the mud boots you
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Blackdragon Tech: ahh ok
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Blackdragon Tech: thanks
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 10 mins and you're entirely safe...just have to send a carriage return and not a whole command to reset it
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Blackdragon Tech: what do u mean by that/
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Blackdragon Tech: what should i use then?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I don't use mush
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Blackdragon Tech: ahh, got any ideas of what would work best?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'll work perfectly fine as is
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Blackdragon Tech: ahh ok.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Blackdragon Tech: Thanks.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'll just be sending/receiving text that's not necessary
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Blackdragon Tech: ahh
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in zmud, you'd #CR, in tinyfugue you'd just have a blank /send...madcatz does it in mush, I don't know what it wants for syntax
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Blackdragon Tech: ok, i just found the triggers, and in the small slot, i put your eyes glaze over, and in send, i put afk, then a afk brb, would that work?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why would you do that?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Blackdragon Tech: Just wondering if that would work, when the timer runs out is all.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're making MUSH work harder for no benefit
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the timer doesn't run out
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: using a trigger when a timer is better is silly
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Blackdragon Tech: Yes i know that, my question is just, will that trigger work?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: trigger means that every single line of text that the MUD sends, MUSH needs to pay attention and parse that line to see if the trigger matches
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Blackdragon Tech: Ahh
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: with the timer you already set, that trigger will NEVER fire
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Blackdragon Tech: So, whats best too use, the timer, or the trigger?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: He already answered that
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: timer, as I've stated clearly and repeatedly
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're already done
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Blackdragon Tech: Ahh ok, i must of just mis-understood you.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you will never be kicked off with what you did in our very first step
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Blackdragon Tech: well, the timer is set up, none the less. Thanks
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Blackdragon Tech: My appologize for seeming a little "slow" today, only been awake for a few, and waiting for the coffee. :P
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I've just published two new mushc plugins -- note 4592 on the tech board
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: how do i get those plugins?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: there's a url at the end -- finger swalec
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: im at the site that was posted in the note but im just wondering if im missing something cuz i cant GET it
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: but im also pretty tech-tarded
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: That has been proved obvious. *blink*
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: thank u
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Welcome! :D
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: First of all, you have to be using MUSH.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i am
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Second, you should copy/paste those and save them into an xml file.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Third, you need to do Ctrl+Shift+P, open (or load, or whatever) and choose the.xml file you just saved.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: That last step needs to be done in MUSH.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Fourth - it appears you do need some of the plugins that come with the Aardwolf MUSHclient, therefore you need to make sure your plugins are working/installed.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: yeah i figured tha out.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: it says its unsupported
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: sorry Hellfiend had to go afk
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: can you not get my plugins straight from the webpage? Click on the subject lines and away you go
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: Hey people, Virus' on cds, how to get rid of it?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Dashiell Tech: Fold the CD in half.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhaz Tech: lol
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: shred the cd?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Eternal Anguish nods.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: I ve got this game of witcher burned by a friend, and I want to play it.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Agent Dashiell falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Dashiell Tech: Get a new friend then
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: get the original
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: buy the game :p
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: Cant be screwed walking out to the games store... its like 40 kms away.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: take a bus
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: cbf
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: too lazy
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: That sucks.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: whats the problem with your burned CD instant?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: Whats the solution, other then rendering the cd unusable.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: Nod32 believes its got virus' on it
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: fold him in half?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: The virus shouldnt infect my computer unless I run the files yes?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: install it .. shut it down .. hope it hasnt spread and remove virus :p
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: its silly to do that tho
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: You found out any background info on supposed virus?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: Idk, but it says its a trojan and thats all I have to know.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: Either your mate doesn't know about it or he has it too
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: He probably does.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: Well sometimes AV will say things are trojans that aren't
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: So, the virus shouldnt affect me unless I run the files yes?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: and sometimes they'll find trojans that dont have a signature yet
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: Dont have a signature?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: hell does that mean
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: they lack a john hancock
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhaz Tech: Google it.  =)
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Global Menace pats Decisively Instant on his head.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: if some germ has it built into the games installer you may be forked if you plan on installing and removing after
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: Since this sounds illegal anyway, why not redownload the game from torrent? =)
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: virus free preferably
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: capped :P
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: search for heuristic scanning
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: Alright f it i just wont play it.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: You could at least search for the virus first
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: Nah tbh i think Nod actually incinerated it again
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: What if every single incident found that virus turns out to be no threat, or not a virus. No problem....
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: because I scanned the cd and it didnt appears o
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: install the game in a VM
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: does anyone else have problems getting the color syntaxes to work in cmud?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Color syntax isn't enabled in CMUD yet.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: that would explain why i cant get it to work
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Yes, it would. :P
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: I'm trying to set up mouse emulation in X Windows on a debian Etch PPC system. I've got sysctl.conf set up to use F11 as the right mouse button, and this works fine in the console... but once I'm in X, it no longer works for pasting text. Any suggestions?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: hiiiii oladon!!!
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Decisively Instant blushes as he sees Apprentice Oladon here.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Right mouse button?  Since when does the right button paste?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Since umm... the developers of Linux made it? :P
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: X paste has always been center button (or its emulation)...
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: (and it predates Linux by a while   :p)
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: yup X = center button paste
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Hmm, gpm uses right button to paste.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Then replace right with center -- it still doesn't work in X
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: that prob cause gpm is newer and comes from windows converts
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: X predates linux
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Decisively Instant blushes as he sees Kitaro here.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: X probably predates windows too, lol
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: MMB paste I saw first in IRIX, if IRIX was more visible Windows would have had a strong competitor.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i was using X on sun X term's many moons ago
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon peers intently at Kitaro.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Right, 'cuz of all those MIPS PC's sold...
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: SGI desktop was more intuitive than a Mac
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: And a lot more expensive too.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: SGI was a niche market
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: that market is gone now
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: I was lucky to be in the niche, but yes.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: Hey people, whats the normal temperature for a next to idling Q6600?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: room temp - 50C
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anywhere in that range would be typical
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: my computer is starting to fking shit me now.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why'sat?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: I can freaking use it as a heater... in winter...
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: computers are like that
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: What about MB temperature
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: typically room temp to room temp + 20
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: hmmmm
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: okay, I ll rephrase the question
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: whats the safety zone of P5Q pro, temperature wise?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: mobo temp shouldn't really be getting up 50 ,cpu shouldn't really go above 60
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: cpu is designed to be able to run hotter, but it's best not to
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: if you cant leave you hand on the heat hink you are in trouble
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what a shock, cause of random crashing on this laptop is Nortons Internet Security
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: this is like being on dialup!
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bah, silly m$ time-limiting their evaluation editions
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what an obnoxious laptop - client reported it locking up randomly after a few minutes. Test harware, fine, locks in windows, try safe mode, safe mode fine, so disable all startup stuff, works fine, turn off all except antivirus, locks, turn on all except antivirus, works fine-  now think it's an antivirus problem, turn everything back on to confirm, works fine. Huh?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: bugged antivirus?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if that's it, why working now? nothing's changed
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: as in
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: buggy, it doesn't always work
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: we call that "intermittent"
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nvidia's 960-parallel core pc puts intel to shame
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silvia Tech: is there a problem with the mushclient spellup script available on aardwolf.com?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: Ifound it cumbersume read help spellup for a fast spellup
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: hurrah, installing server 2003 took just 4 hours
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: lol installing to a VM on a old pc ?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nogs
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well, isn't -ancient-, but single core
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: heh, i done that a bit myself
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i wuv VM's
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: need to stick vista business in a vm too
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kitaro looks around afraid for his life.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i just archived one of my VM's, but i some how screwed up and left a 13KB file out of the 5gig archive
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: yawn waiting for the file to add in
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: So, what happens on TV when a commercial comes on for a second or so, but is then cut off and replaced by another commercial?  Is that an error in transmission, or does the company get charged even though their ad was cut short?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the contract is adhered to
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hurley Tech: i believe the station is responsible for refunding the advertiser usually
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hurley Tech: an of course, some intern gets fired
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah, nobody gets fired unless the other thing aired was pr0n
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: ....but, that would never happen.....
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: other than during the superbowl, when it did
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: yes, I was aware. :)
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the station that aired the one second advert was copying feed from another station -- that station likely did not contract with the advertiser to air that one second blip
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Win98se + SoundMax Digital Audio - run Heretic I configured to Soundblaster - sound okay -- quit Heretic and rerun Heretic - no game sound -- restart Windows - Heretic games sound back for one session
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Windows 98se and or SoundMax designed badly to run old games software -- but is there a fix other than restart windows
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: get a genuine sb card
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: yeah, own a pci SB value -- but is installing that SB card going to screw with the SoundMax digital mainboard sound
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: turn off the onboard one
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: and if i do not ?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you might get some unusual conflicts 
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: used to run both pci Soundblaster Value and isa Gravis UltraSound Max togetther in Pentium I
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: but sadly, the Gravis Ultrasound Max card died eventually -- unsure the reason
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the bad design with SB value is that the card used system ram below the 4MB mark, and Windows 98se seemed to insist on loading any RamDrives below the SB value load 
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: perhaps that was a bad RamDrive coding by microsoft in Win98se
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the SB valueeven used system Ram was an extremely bad design
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: with Gravis UltraSoundMax, all the pat files were loaded into the Gravis card -- a far betterbehaved sound card
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: anyone have time for a chat about captures
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use one of the scripts that already exist :-)
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: none do that i can find
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: zmud scripts with captures - finger fiendish
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: cmud
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: well no guarantees, but the zmud stuff -may- work
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not likely enough differences between the two for cap
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Midnight Toker Tech: is there any way to use speedwalks easier than copy and paste?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: no alot of commands and values are nul between the two
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: runto =/
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: runto
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: best advice is simply not to be using cmud at all yet, unless you're very comfortable writing scripts yourself
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Midnight Toker Tech: lol nice
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: or my cute plugin 
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, a lot of commands are different...but the cap stuff only uses like 3 commands at all
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: toker, there are many speedwalk scripts...you can even download pre-done stuff from iwuvaard to paste right in
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Midnight Toker Tech: nice thanks
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: and ... cue Abelinc, for the emerald speedwalks ...
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: emerald doesn't have anything to punch into your client that I know of
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the question was not about finding them, but about making them easier to access
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: there's that all_sws page? - let me check, now you've said
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, that's got them all, but not in a format to export/import them to the client
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oops, I'm wrong, they do have it there
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I use the allsws page, but it's the other page that has them ready for zmud
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://www.adverserealms.com/emerald/maps.html
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Yah for the zmud user ... http://www.adverserealms.com/emerald/zmudsws.txt
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: better to use the page I gave...it has that link plus the readme for that link ;-)
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: though in some cases, the alias is longer to type than the in mud 'run'
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: longer to type, but typically shorter to run
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: runto is not supposed to be efficient, just easy
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: my mushclient plugin works like runto but quicker...
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, fiendish wrote one like that as well before runto even existed
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Razor reminds everyone about runprefix.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Swalec  has he plugin work like runto but working from anywhere
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Swalec has his plugin work like runto but working from anywhere
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: runprefix accomplishes that, swalec
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Swalec but still hasn't worked out how to do emotes properly yet
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Felt but wait, there's more!
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: no it doesn't -- it works from one place
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no swalec
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: runprefix wear portal ; enter ; down
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: will make runto work from anywhere you can use a portal
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no programming needed for that
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: sure, but then that might be a slow route -- mine will go faster
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: only if you give it a better route :P
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: that depends. My plugin works out when things routes overlap for instance
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: runto is a starting point good enough for most, it is not optimized. We don't need to defend it. If Swalec has produced something faster/better, great.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but yeah, that's what fiendish's did from before runto...it would read the MUD's speedwalk output and update the speedwalks for any that had changed, but ONLY if you hadn't customized them manually
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: mine doesn't do that. It keeps all the directions, including portals and sw's from the mud
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: anything you did manually would override the speedwalk from the MUD and use that for efficiency
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: then does a shortest path calculation, to work out the quickest route at the time
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it can't do that without knowing what rooms are
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: actually, yes, it can
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: by definition, no it can't :P
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: sure, it can
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: this sounds like a great opportunity to show off MY pathfinding :)
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: it just needs to know directions between points, this is enough
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it needs to know what those point are...directions are irrelevant otherwise
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I don't need to know all the rooms for this
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: In the UK we have pantomime where one guy says 'Oh no it doesn't' and the audience shouts back 'Oh yes it does'
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not all rooms, no...but it needs to know where those points are
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: well, okay, if you want to believe this, then that's fine, but I have a counter example
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: deep in descent to hell, finding calico cat in high tower...
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: 20516 rooms queued, 63971 exits checked.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: I wonder what made me think of that
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: Path: run 2n;open w;run ws2wnw;open w;run wsw;open w;run wn3wu2es4en2esen2uws2wn2ws2wnw2u4e;open e;run 2eue;open n;run n;open n;run nwd;open w;run wn2e2s2eue3s4e8sws8wne3n;open n;run n3e;open n;run 2nu3w4s4e4nu4w2s;open w;run w;open u;run u;open u;run u;open e;run e2s4e4nu2w5s2un;open n;run n;open n;run n;open n;run 2n
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Dashiell Tech: how is that pantomime then?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Swalec and Abelinc - yes it can, no it can't
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: lasher, can you give me a tell if not busy?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: he
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: Hargreaves watch out! he's behind you
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Remind Hargreaves screams loudly!
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: of course, you have to actually be able to complete most of that run before hitower repops and the maze navigation section is no longer current :)
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for instance, the shortest path to an area may be a portal...but that portal might not go to the same room that running to that area goes...so building the speedwalk off "area X and area Y both have speedwalks starting with run here" will FAIL if you try to use the portal to make a shorter speedwalk to area Y
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Oh wait, why would I worry about a guy behind me?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: magical backstab
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Ah yeah, :(
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: Abelinc, if you know the route between the two, then there is not a problem
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: swalec, I just demonstrated that it is a problem, without manual intervention
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: help 'lasher's pathfinding' didn't give me a hit
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: yes, and you are wrong. look, the sw's provide directions between nodes, and you can calculate the shortest path between the nodes
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: knowing how to get from area X to area Y doesn't mean that you can amend speedwalk to area Y to go from area X's room 1, if area X speedwalk no longer drops you in room 1...you must know how to get back to room 1 from the speedwalk dropoff
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: only if you know that the node isn't the node that you thought it was
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: so if you have a portal into an area, this is just a new node -- if you know how to get out of that, then it's a connected node in the graph and away you go
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which requires intervention
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: imho optimizing speedwalks beyond runto is more of a personal thing based on where your portals go to. Otherwise we're back in the same situation before runto where exits change and speedwalk plugins stop working, which just frustrates everyone. "Stopping all area additions" and "banning clan portal changes" was not a viable option to fix it, so runto was added.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: and how do you know? Do you rememeber the room names, for instance? This is what my plugin does
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, swalec, I fully agree
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: really, the only reason to do it is for GQs, and optimizing for that *is* personal based on where your portals go.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which is what I stated from the very start of this...it must know the rooms :P
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: anyway, just try it, if you fancy it. I've been playing muds like this for ages and it works well
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you claimed that it could calculate the routes without knowing the rooms, and that was patently false
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: no, really, it doesn't. It just knows about a directed, edge-labelled graph, where the edges are directions
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and the points are rooms which IT MUST KNOW
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: no, really, it doesn't. If it knows that you have to enter an amulet to get to the hotel and head "d" to get to recall, this is all that it needs
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Keep going Swalec, make Abe's head explode.  You have no idea how big of a favor you'd be doing this game.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: it doesn't need to know anything more about the rooms
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Swalec laughs outrageously
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for that example, which contained 2 rooms, it needed to know 2 rooms :P
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: hey, Abelincs been really helpful
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: yes he has
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I still want his head to explode.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: but he also (at itmes, and to some extent) has a big head
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Bigger head ---> bigger explosion :)
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: ncie
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: nice*
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's hard not to have a big head when you're always correct :-)
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: that is bigheaded right there
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: what do you mean by "know 2 rooms" -- clearly I need to know that a locatin exists, a direction to it, but I don't need to know anything about the rooms around it, or the rooms in between, or anything else
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you needed to know that entering the amulet took you to room 1, and you needed to know that going down put you in room 2
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: anyway, I'm going to head off soon. Feel free to try the plugin if you want. I wrote it, because I thought it would be fun to write (and it was), and now I use it for getting around. You may not use it or not as you choose
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not a bad plugin, not saying anything against it, just the claimed premise is incorrect :P
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}-SABU- Arystul Tech: anyone know how to turn clipboard on for mush?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Do you mean the thing where you can just select some text from the output and it automatically copies it to the clipboard
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: If I want to link IP addresses and host names on a network, is there a single location I can do it? (instead of modifying the hosts file for each and every machine)
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: is there a quick way to disable a trigger with mushclient?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hurley Tech: only way i know of to do it is select the trigger, hit edit, and toggle the box next to enabled on the side.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hurley Tech: unless you want to disable all of them
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik is agreeing with that Hurley person again...
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: but you still have to go into the configurations to disable all?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Yes
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: i remembered having a toggle on one of the other clients. oh well.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: You could likely use a script command to do it though
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hurley Tech: here's one, i'm using vista currently, for various reasons, and after i make a change to something in mush, when it tries to save the worldfile, i get a message saying that access to the file was denied
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: run as admin
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: That's because you aren't running as administrator
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: programs can't write to the program files folder in vista by default
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Alternatively, don't install MUSHclient in the default location of the Program Files folder
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhaz Tech: Ugh.  Vista.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hurley Tech: bah, i have vista
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hurley Tech: thanks
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right-click your mush icon to tell it to run as admin
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: in regexp (something|somethingelse)? will match if there is something or somethingelse or nothing at all. correct?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: if I recall my regexp correctly, yes
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: thanks
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also, if i need a match vars, then how can i pull them? for (ar|ar2)
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: (@var|@var2) even
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: should be able to use %d or %w to get from a text string...
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not sure what you mean
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i want to use the vars in the regexp
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so i'd like to know how to use them in the pattern
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: bleagh, that wasn't regexp, I'm sorry...my brain's not totally here tonight--too little sleep and too much caffeine instead
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: Hey people, can you send me the specs of your computers please?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: personal desktops?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: chyea boy.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: just wanted to compare specs.. see if I can own all of yall :D
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maaloc Tech: does anyone else have a problem w/ the stats window in mush being too high?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: too high?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: as in misaligned or the incorrect figures?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maaloc Tech: i can't move it because the bar is under the musch client bar
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: look for a scrollbar at the side
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: such a weird problem...that scrollbar seems to sometimes disappear and then comeback
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: tried  'initaard'   ?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maaloc Tech: nah i want to move the whole thing to the bottom of my screen, but i cant grab anything to move it down
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dudemanguy Tech: mushclient problem xD?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maaloc Tech: i figured it out a few months ago, but when i typed initaard it reset up there
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: use window cascade or something
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maaloc Tech: oh thats it, thanks kirua
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or can just right-click its tab
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then select move, and use the arrow keys to reveal it
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maaloc Tech: the right click doesn't work for me
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dudemanguy Tech: if its mushclient, just hit the numbered buttons
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that way you're not moving all the other stuff
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dudemanguy Tech: then x the offending window
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dudemanguy Tech: if not, i'm talking to myself ._.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maaloc Tech: the cascading worked but if it happens again i'll try all the other options heh
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you have to do the right-click right on the tab, not on the window itself
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maaloc Tech: yeah i know it would give me the 4 direction arrow but not move the stats window
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it would if you used arrow keys, not the mouse
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maaloc Tech: oh that worked!
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dudemanguy Tech: -g
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dudemanguy Tech: sorry, mis
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maaloc Tech: something useful outside of aard as well
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: my only grumble about vm's is they work damn slow
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i spose that's to be expected, really
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: depends on what it's running on and what resources you allocate to it
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: don't have a cpu that supports hardware accelerated virtualisation, unfortunately
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ok. what's wrong with this? #IF (%ismember( %2, argets)) {#CW $FF0000}
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Extra space after second left parenthesis?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: no at sign in front of argets? its a variable right
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: forgot to add another @
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: %2 is a string in the variable. however it doesn't use the #cw for some reason. what am i missing?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: #cw %2 $FF0000 , try that
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i don't want to color all the values. only the ones contained in the var
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: that will only color %2
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: #cw [WORD YOU WANT COLORED] [COLOR]
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah. like i said - i don't want to color %2 on every hit. only if it's a string in a var
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Perhaps #CW requires an ANSI value.  It does in my zmud, although admittedly I'm using an outdated version.  Give that a try.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: yeah it won't its in an if statement
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I forget how I did that, will have to look at my scripts
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir sighs at the sight of Linoge.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i don't want to color every value i get when the trigger matches something
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: is it possible to expand vars in regex triggers using zmud?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vengance Tech: im new to mushclient and was wondering if anyone could tell me what to use for alias's to determain a target? IE: c 'fbolt' (what)
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the top, put "fb *", in the bottom, put "c firebolt %1"
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: of course changing those to be whatever you want to type & what you want to accomplish
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and when you have questions just ask the questions...asking if you can ask just wastes more typing
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vengance Tech: thanks
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: people don't usually want to speak up when you say "anyone know <this subject>" because, whether or not they know the software, that doesn't mean that they'll know the answer to whatever as-yet-unasked question you have, and they're pretty much committing to be your personal tutor from then on ;-)
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vengance Tech: i get the point
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vengance Tech: continue your day
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not all about you :P
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: so does anyone know about molecular biology? I have a paper to write
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I tried a Dashiell Tech: does anyone know about counterintuitive rehearsal proposals?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: stop making stuff up dashiell, it's so obvious :)
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I tried a Dashiell sniggers at Argot's actions.  Maybe you should REPORT the idjit.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Honestly, Abelinc jumps up and down like Arnold Horshack screaming "OOh! Ooh! Mr. Kotter!"
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I tried a Dashiell Tech: That was the point.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: Oh, geez. I figured it was legit ;)
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I tried a Dashiell sniggers at Argot's actions.  Maybe you should REPORT the idjit.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: i use counterintuitive rehearsal proposals at work all the time
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I tried a Dashiell claps at Global Menace's performance.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Global Menace beams a smile at I tried a Dashiell.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I tried a Dashiell Tech: Oh, do you work at a skyhook factory too?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: do you think I could repurpose these proposals to get into women's pants?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I tried a Dashiell Tech: No.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: hmm im getting a job with skyhook :/
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: by skyhook you mean that really cool way of getting back into a plane as featured in The Dark Knight? I hope so.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do you know the importance of a sky pager?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I tried a Dashiell Tech: Very nice. I work in the attachment department. I make the screws that fasten the hook to the sky.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: by skyhook i mean the hybrid location company
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: use cell towers, gps, and wireless to geolocate
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I tried a Dashiell Tech: ok, I'm going afk. :P
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I tried a Dashiell Tech: I meant a hook that fastens to the sky. :P
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: lol
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: yeah me too, after I quest. my first day of work. *shudder*
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: oh dear, ebay are in trouble
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughingstok Tech: has anyone gotten the experience bar plugin to work here?  If so, how did you setup your prompt?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: if it's Fiendish' it works off statmon not your prompt
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughingstok Tech: I dont know what statmon is, sorry.  Learning this as I go. :)
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: try help statmon - it's like a prompt with alot more info.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughingstok Tech: oh I see, no I'm using the one by Nick Gammon 
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughingstok Tech: for MUSHclient
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughingstok Tech: he says the prompt should be set to have your experience setup like xxxx/xxxx (so much out of xxxx needed til next level)
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughingstok Tech: not sure if thats possible here?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tylen Tech: "heal mana" at the temple doesn't seem to restore any mana
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: anyone know a burning app that will burn to multiple drives at once
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eramas Tech: how do i prevent the bigmap from popping up everytime i move?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "bigmap auto off"
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eramas Tech: oh thank you :D
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: someone go code a custom client already dammit.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eramas Tech: ahh nope its not working
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giatam Tech: the on webpage is horrid.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giatam Tech: zmud+aardmaps is soooo much better.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eramas Tech: soo, i dont know what to do if this thing keeps popping up
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Yeah, it's not great, but it's not horrid
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: you've done nothing but say the same thing on two channels since you logged in.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: is your name Mike by any chance? 
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: Just asking ....
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eramas Tech: are you advertising zmud giatam?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eramas Tech: lol
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giatam Tech: no..? why?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}-SABU- Arystul Tech: anyone know how to turn on the ability of a clipboard on mushclient?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: 5th button is the notepad?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Do you mean the feature where you can select text and have it automatically copied into your clipboard, Arystul?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}-SABU- Arystul Tech: yes
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}-SABU- Arystul Tech: well the ability to c/p
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: i need assistance setting up tf
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: lol
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: The ability to c/p has always been there, but I bet you are wanting Ctrl+C to work properly
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}-SABU- Arystul Tech: i can't even click on the copy button up top when selecting text
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ph 25
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oops
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Hmm, right-click on your selected text, Arystul, and use that copy
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: The copy from the edit menu, toolbar, and Ctrl+C all go to the element with the focus, which, in MUSHclient, is always the input box
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: There's an option that says something like "typing switches focus to command line".  You don't want that option checked, if you want to use cntr+c
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Not sure where that option is, though.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I'll try to find it during next commercial :P
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game -> configure -> output, copy selection to clipboard
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't need to use copy...just once you drag-highlight something, it's immediately in clipboard
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: It used to be default behavior in MUSHclient for the ctrl+C to work, but it was changed way long ago
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik rapidly nods twice to you, in complete agreement.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: That's my preferred method, but sometimes Vista will complain about being unable to open the clipboard when you do that
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and that's the behavior that PuTTY uses, so I'm quite used to the auto-copy
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik noddles at you, apparently agreeing to your words.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, I dunno what other challenges vista brings to the table
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: "All typing goes to input window".  That's the option you want off if you want to use ctrl+C
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Where is that?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: File->global preferences->general
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Ah, okay. I always forget about the global preferences
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: how do i make it easier in mush client to cast my speels say combat spells
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: cuz its hard to to remember all the numbers or names
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: If my keyboard has a keypad, I set on of the keys to cast my most common combat spell
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: If I'm on my laptop (which doesn't have a keypad) I just use kick (which isn't very good) :D
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for combat spells, I just use in-game aliases
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: concentrate harder and ask again
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: ok
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: I set two- or three-letter aliases for my combat spells as in-game aliases, then it doesn't matter if I'm on my desktop or laptop
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: what do u mean by htat menace?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: decide on a set of shortcuts for different damtypes, then change the aliases as you get better spells in that damtype
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: hadn't considered that...could be useful.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so "li" for lightning/electric attacks, etc
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i do tht already i have it so l+lightning and v +vampiric touch but its hard to remember all the attacks when i need them
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: damnit i meant = not +
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: any suggeestions?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you can't remember even those, then dunno what you think the client can do for you...
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i have like 20nor 30 spells how is any one supposed to remember them all
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: write them on something you can see easily from your keyboard while still paying attention to stats? And keep playing--you'll remember them the more often you use them.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hellfiend, no you don't
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: srry i have 69 spells
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: you don't need to remember 20-30. You need to remember spellup and one or two damage spells most of the time.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, you don't hellfiend
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I only remember the top 1 or 2 spells I use... I never need to use 20 or 69 spells if I'm just leveling
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I have a macro that recasts everything.  I also check 'spells spellup' and know what to look for.  I don't really have to commit much effort to remember my spells.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for attack spells, there's only so many damtypes...
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Also, just use your most current attack spell.  Spells combat, or whatever.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: what did u set ur macro to?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 2 spells that have the same damtype are still just 1 spell to bother with
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: 99% of the time, you're going to be using the same combat spell against every mob, until you get a new one.  All you need to remember is the most recent one you've gotten.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik rapidly nods twice at Leinei, in complete agreement.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Or better, reroll thief and forget magic.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: my most recent r either area spells of a crappy talon attack
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: remember to use the 'spellup' command if you're having trouble remembering your buffs
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Then all you need to remember is the most recent on you've gotten that's useful.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: You'd still have to remember to use black root or whatever theives get
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i do use spellup but sometimes some ccombat spellsa re more affective against mobs
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Try casting your combat spells against self ;)
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hellfiend, pay attention to the damtypes...you only need to remember one spell for any damtype...and you don't need to remember the new one, if you change your alias
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: very funny starling
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I thought so!
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i think i will just for the heck of it
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: hey, i did that to level magic missile from 33% to 100%
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech:  our searing ball of flame DISEMBOWELS you! [62]
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: that little?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: what is your skill percentages?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: its like my weakest attack other than magic missile
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so for 6 or so damtypes, create 2-letter aliases, and when you get a better spell for one of them, repoint the alias to the new spell...then you're still just remembering the 6 2-letter aliases and not the 2 dozen spells you'll use through the mort
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: If you want to be really savvy, you can have a trigger make note of your level, and have one alias cast the proper spell based on your level ;)
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It's how I roll.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: even when you go through other morts, tiers, pclasses, the damtypes are still the same, nothing new to learn
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: skill percentages are between 75 and 100
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: honestly if you spells are all not at 100%, i won't even bother trying to match spells with mobs.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: dude im tech tarded idk how to do that trigger thing
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so don't do the trigger thing...just expand the 2 aliases that you're already using
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: try help alias
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: i just set my F12 button to do my most powerful attack
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: If all else fails, alt+F4
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: yes wilbon that is what i want to do. how do i do it is it a macro cuz its not an alias
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: not funny, starling.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: funny im not that stupid starling
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game -> configure -> macros
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: don't you configure your keypads?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I disagree, I think it's plenty funny :P
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: no i dont
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: mushclient right? goto game configure keypads
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: whether it's an alias or a macro doesn't matter
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: save yourself the typing
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: silence = enlightenment?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: ok that what u ,eant. ya its configured but i only play on laptop
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: it's harder from laptop--numberpad is really convenient. If you're playing from home, it might be worth it to plug a regular keyboard into the laptop.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: ok
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: is there a way to set an alias so if u want to quaff a healing potion it will quaff it no matter what the particular potion is?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd need to tell it what potion to use at any given time
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: I usually just alias qheal to quaff <whatever potion's best avail at my level>
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when I type /heal, it gets a level-appropriate heal pot from my potionsbag and quaffs it
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: You can, once again, do that based on your character's level.  But you'd need to have a trigger to make note of the level, and appropriate checks in the quaff alias.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: how do i do the trigger?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Moral of the story:  Learn to write your own stuff, it will help immensely.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: set it uup i mena
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: i use the statmon display to capture my level and all my stats
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: If you're using MUSH, I wouldn't know.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I use zmud.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: ok
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: without programming, you just need to change the alias when you change what pots you use
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for heal pots, you shouldn't be changing until after you remort anyway
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: But you can post on tech, and chances are somebody will know.  Or download a script and pick it apart.  I dissected a whois qp averaging script, of all things, and explored scripting from there.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: ok thanx for the help im sure it wud have been more usefull if i wasnt stupid but i appreciate it all the same
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not about being stupid, it's about figuring out the logic of what you're trying to do
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It's not a matter of being a stupid, it's just a matter of learning, testing, and changing things.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: Not knowing programming doesn't make you stupid, neither does being a first-mort...
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Holy crap, Abe and I said almost the same thing.  I'm having a heart attack, I think.  Somebody call 9-1-1!
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: You guys are optimists
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: it takes time to learn this mud and client programming.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik blinks innocently.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: someone grab the camera
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: is more like it
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: figure out what it is that you want to type, and what you want the program to do with what you typed
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: yeah i can program in normal languages and have very little idea how to script zmud
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: me too. I can set up a rewield trigger and mod a trigger to put my chats and tells in separate windows, but that's about it.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: well i dont know how to script anything i know a little bit of some comp stuff but only enough to get me into trouble thats how i got suspended from school for a month
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: you should probably refrain from doing that again
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: uhhhh duh
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: well you did it the first time... sooooo
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in MUSH, it calls it an alias when you type something and then hit enter...it calls it a macro when you hit a key combination without needing to hit enter, typically Fkeys, alt-keys, etc
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i learned my lesson
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Hey, a free month off school?  Sounds like you played your cards right.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: no a month of getting the crp knocked out of me and then cleaning the house nonstop with no technology whatsoever
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Global Menace pats Starling on her head.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: And yet here you are, playing Aard.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: it was last year
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: ouch, sounds like what would have happened had I gotten myself suspended... not fun.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Oh.  Well, you need to get busy again.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: ur telling me
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I got suspended from school once for fighting, and once for telling a teacher to go... well, I won't say it here, because it's not a cursing channel.  But yeah.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: busy with what i aint gonna even open command prompt at school again or they will think im trying to screw with them
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: the suspension is really for the gov't to help profile you in the future.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: great..
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: lol the trick is to not get suspended
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i wudnt of got caught if i didnt get ratted out
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: i bet you wouldnt have got suspended if you didn't do it either
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: RTPB #1:  TRUST NO ONE.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i didnt trust him he saw what i did then tried to repeat it and got busted and ratted me out
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: therefore i won't trust starling, and therefore in evryone i trust (loop)
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: And you admitted guilt why...?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i didnt admit anything
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: if it was a lab where he had to log in, they knew who was logged onto what machine.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: tehy suspended me cuz then they looked and saw what had happened and BAM i was out
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: so basically youre saying the only reason you didn't caught anyway was because the administration was careless
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Must have been some serious pr0n.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: no i used someones log in that i ...''obtaine'' and they didnt know who did it until i was ratted out
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: You should have DENIED, DENIED, DENIED if they didn't have your info.  Lesson learned for next time.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Also, RTPB plan for failure/disaster.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: or you could just not do it.. thatd work too
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i never admitted it but they suspended me anyways cuz my administration is a bunch of facist pigs
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik sniggers quietly to himself, reflecting over an amusing thought.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: yeah, not screwing with the administration's computer system is one of those smart rules to follow...
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: yeah darn those facist pigs suspending the correct student
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Evil is much more fun than good.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: no the suspended me and ALL the techy kids cuz they didnt rly know who did ithats y they r facist
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: wow, that's pretty harsh...
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: i made an auto-recast failed spells zmud script, is this a proper forum to post it for review?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Does it work?  If yes, great.  If not, fix it.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: i was thinking of potential vulnerabilities
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: abuse, or accidental self-spamming
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Try to exploit/abuse your own script.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: i'll take it that the answer to my question is no
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: no, you're in the right place, Starling just thinks everyone should learn their stuff on their own.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: ignore starling as a general rule
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: trigger on "~{sfail~}([0-9]+),0,1,-1", action of cast '%1' :-)
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Go ahead, my 'who ignored' will never be long enough. :)
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: I'm not going to be much help, though, as I'm a baby at zmud scripting...
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: if you don't have tags enabled, you can add a ^ to the beginning of your pattern to make sure it only matches on newlines. but it's still not perfect
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: turn on spelltags and that should recast things that you tried to cast on yourself, and failed due to lost concentration
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: how do you turn on spelltags?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: tags on?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tags spellups on
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: thanks
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: any script that's being written from scratch today should be written to use tags
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: what does a tag do?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they exist solely to make scripting easier
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're tags that are designed to be machine-parsed
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type just "tags" to see different types of things that have tags
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's also statmon
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: is there a better way in zmud to make tags not visible than #gag 2?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: #gagspace
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Yeah, I should re-write to use statmon, but I'm too busy levelling.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Next time I qsit.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Gagspace doesn't work in zMUD.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus THWAPS Tyebald for being a moron.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: well, it doesn't work all that well in cmud either. ;)
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Joelz: What do you mean 'tags not visible'?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: so if i turn tags on, they show up on my screen
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Tyebald: It works perfectly well in CMUD, from what I've used it for. ;)
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: {chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Tyebald: It works perfectly well in CMUD, from what I've used it for. ;)
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: And you don't want to see the tags?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: correct
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: joelz, check out fiendish's scripts
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I'm assuming you're using the tags for some reason?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: just as an example
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: I still keep getting extra spaces...but it's no worse than #gag 2 in that regard.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: not currently, i just turned them on for a sec to get that
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: but i would like to rewrite a lot of my scripts to use them
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: probably going to use the spell ones more than anythign else
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Ah, then if you're not using them, don't turn them on. ;) If you are, then you can trigger it and sub it out. For instance, #TRIGGER {^~{chan ch=%w~}} {#SUB {}}
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: ah good call, thanks
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that last part is what joelz was asking
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods at you in agreement. 
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: if it's on a line by itself though, that will still show whitespace, no?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods at Fae Wino Joelz.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You could just do #TRIGGER {^$} {#GAG} *inno*
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: hence #gag 2 ;) or #gag 3 for stats line
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: is there a tag for being disarmed?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: yes
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: oh wait
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: you mean a tag tag.. not sure.. but you can just use the line in combat
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: how would i tell the difference between a legitimate line of combat disarm or one that just comes through a channel?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: are you using zmud?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: yeah
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: also the keywords for the weapon dont always work
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: based on regular text
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: if you put a ^ before it will tellit to only match the line if thats the start of the line
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: thats right ti doesn't
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: but a disarm does not start with a particular identifier
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: you could set a variable for it to refer to and then you could change it when you switch weapons
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: good point, the main problem is recognizing a legitimate disarm based on the beginning of the line
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: it snot a problem
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: also use $ to signify the end of the line
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: whast the disarm line? i have bracers/nodisarm
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: A feisty gnome DISARMS your buzzsaw yo-yo and sends it flying
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: DISARMS you and you struggle not to drop your weapon!
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: "... DISARMS you and you struggle not to drop your weapon!"
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: end of line and beginning of line dont seem to help filter out tells or channel talk etc
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: that's an aardweapon
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: oh!
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: check wilbon's title
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: ^* DISARMS your buzzsaw yo-yo and sends it flying$
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: sword?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: any aardweapon
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: that * trigger would work if you looked at my title for example
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: and fire erroneously
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: i meant wilbon's title
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: no it wouldnt
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: you have (Male Priest)
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: after it.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: reminds me of those [target]
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: Wilbon DISARMS you and sends your photonic matrix flying! would fire
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: no
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: didn't
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: new line?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: Wilbon DISARMS you and sends your buzzsaw yo-yo flying
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: theres ways to make it PERFECT but if it fires because someone pastes exactly that to tech whats the big deal?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: nice try, but it didn't trigger mine either
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: heh i remember you can add ~ to the start of the trigger i think?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: heh, guess we got one
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: if you're in zmud mm
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: which is your trigger lacrimosa?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: if you want it perfect research using regexs in zmud
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: if you did ~ ..it'll only detect if it started off from the start of line
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: i think :P
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: tahts ^
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: Oh. right lol
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: i know how to do scripts which start on a new line, the problem is the disarm message does not start with a distinctive mark
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: and the name of hte mob is at the beginning
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: put a variable token?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: but not do anything to it in the trigger todos
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: if the mob starts at the beginning, then anything can be at the beginning
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: you could make it so when you enter a fight it sets a variable to the name of the mob
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: or you could just exclude it from atching channels with a regex, etc
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: ah
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: yeah i could exclude the the channels using the :
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: but i dont know about tells or other stuff
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: why do you care?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: cause i dont want triggers mis-firing
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: do people spam you trying to set off your rearm trigger?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: lol
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Global Menace pats Wilbon on his head.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: theres degrading returns on things like this.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: lacrimosa what is your rearm trigger?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: my reamr trigger is as basic as it gets, should fire at just about anything, but doesn't.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: but if you want to spend a few hours setting up a rearm trigger have fun
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: i just realised why my rearm trigger was firing randomly, jerks
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: strange yea. i use mush and i only have to put * disarms you
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: can put up your pattern lacrimosa?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: it doesn't seem to fire other things :P
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: it's just "DISARMS you and you struggle not to drop your weapon!$"
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: stop it!
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: LOL
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: it should fire at just about everything, but it doesn't.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Bracers of Iron Grip are a viable solution to that specific situation.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: Wilbon DISARMS you and you struggle not to drop your weapon!
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: that doesnt fire?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: jerk
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: nope
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: doesnt fire mine
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: you should do this in tells, perhaps
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: doesn't fire mine either weird
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: odd, mine was fine too
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: purposefully setting off peoples' trigger is against the rules...
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: If a trigger is being fired due to chatter on tech channel, somebody needs to fix his broken trigger.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: or used to be, if it's not still :-p
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: it doesn't seem to misfire.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: hes just proving a point :p
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: i agree starling, but still not allowed
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: starling, no more talking.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: joelz, this is called troubleshooting... it's quite common to be done over tech and not in tells
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: i thought the tech channel was precisely for this sort of thing
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Starling looks at Global Menace for a moment, then moves on to more important things.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: i understand, but you could send the test line in a tell
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: my rearm trigger was my frirst trigger i ever wrote and i the only one i havent updated
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: step 1 of any good troubleshooting is to recreate the error
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: but if it is done on tech, more people can see what's going on and more people can help
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It's not our fault if he's not competent enough to design a trigger that isn't stupid.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: it's not like he's walking around emoting it
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: it is, Wilbon. Remember what we said about not paying attention to Starling's snarkiness?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: so whats your rearm trigger starling?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: i thought joelz was telling me i was breaking the rules
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I'm not snarky :)
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: ye su r
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: mine is "wear bracers"
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Bracers of Iron Grip
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blailus Tech: oddly enough his trigger talking on tech is breaking my trigger thats supposed to capture tech to a window =/
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: i work in IT, i have a fine grasp of troublsehooting :) if in the process of troubleshooting a client's email problem i send every staff member 15 test emails, that's a problem
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: joelz was trying to tell you that wilbon, but you're fine
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: why would you wear bracers after beign disarmed? i put mine on beforehand.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Joelz is just being pedantic at this point.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: partially
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: i'm also asking you to consider others
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It's cool, I do it too.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: send the test line in a tell, discuss results here
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: your mom's just being pedantic
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: joelz...
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: you're not setting off my triggers, I'm not speaking for myself
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: or just echo it...
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: or gt it etc
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: what i /just/ said was that if it is done on tech, more people can see it, thus more people can work on the problem
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: instead we're talking about rules, well done
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: score one for me?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: its alright, i just fixed my trigger
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: because that was totally my goal
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Starling claps at Travis's performance.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: the other thing is that some of us are attempting to learn more from the tech channel...
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: its not gonna work on any channel with quotes anyway.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: so i cant use this channel for peer review of triggers?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: i actually thank you guys, it reminded me to update my oldest trigger
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: go ahead wilbon
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: you can.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: you can, but you shouldnt send things that will purposefully set off triggers of potentially the entire (although realistically never the ENTIRE) mud
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars is east of here.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: i'm not an imm, it was meant to be a warning, not my place to deal with it if there's a problem
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Seriously, a good way to learn is down download a script and see what all its parts do and how they manipulate data.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Joelz, stop by city hall and pick up an application for Aardwolf Channel Police Dept.  We need more officers.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i've struggled re-engineering other people's code personally, but starling has me ignored so she won't see this... if people don't comment in their code, you can easily get lost in it
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: that only covers part of it, Starling, and I do know people who can't follow code and learn from it.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Actually Scars, I unignored you several days ago.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i have to actually write the code myself to really come to terms with what i'm working with
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: learning from other peoples code without comments can happen, but generally not without a basic understanding of the language already
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: So try changing something in the script and see how it changes.  It's not that hard.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Global Menace pats Starling on her head.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: A pre-made script just serves as a good starting point.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: don't think i can disagree with that last statement, but saying it's "not hard" is relative to your understanding of programming/scripting walking into it
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: no not really
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: i dont understand why lacrimosas trigger does not misfire
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: I can make basic mods to othe scripts, but I'm never going to learn scripting for myself until I start writing more of my own.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: heh, neither do I, Wilbon
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: looking at a pre-made script with know previous knowledge of scripting, isn't a good starting point
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: if you're well versed in the language, looking at a pre-made script is obviously useful
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: but it doesn't, so it's not an issue.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It's not hard relative to designing a more efficient supercritical airfoil.  How's that?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: i've done lots of scripts on other mud and they have been pretty safe, but this disarm has me stumped
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: no*
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: i can always think of a way to break it for myself
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: Melon.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: i already gave you several suggestion.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Argot grins evilly at Wilbon.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: they've been spammed off the 100 history
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: shoulda paid attention earlier then
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: i just dont see how end of line triggers can possibly be safe
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: wilbon, please copy/paste your script to tech so we can see what you have so far... that is also off the buffer
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I think it depends on the person... I found (and still find) examples very helpful to learning and understanding how to script
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: and program, for that matter
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars nods at Rathik.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: a fair point
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: currently it is just the old crappy: DISARMS you and sends your
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: they are great for HELPING learning
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: well, something you could do is add in a variable containing the name of your weapon to help make the line more unique
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: now just add a wildcard to compensate for variables and anchor it. voila.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: a wildcard or two*
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars nods at Argot.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: thats not perfect argot
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Patton Tech: thanks for setting off my trigger
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars nicely asks Patton to be more quiet.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: hes whining about it setting off occasionally.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: If you have wildcards at the beginning and ending, there's no advantage in anchoring it
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: what set of ur trig
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: trigg?*
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: valid point rathik
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: But I think the real match has the word "flying" at the end
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: the variable could be "@myweapon" and you can have a second trigger to automatically fill that variable when the "you weild blah blah blah" message displays
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: does this make sense?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: so then your trigger line is "DISARMS your weapon sending [name of weapon] flying!" or whatever the exact message is
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: why dont you just do get all;wear all on disarm?  
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: could get random crap in the room kitaro, he's trying to make this disarm script as efficient as possible... not find the easiest way to do it
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: the lista are stack based, so you will always get the right item
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: sometimes I don't want to pick up everything in the room..
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: ^* DISARMS your weapon sending * flying!$
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: wat client ?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: DISARMS your weapon sending tech my script fails flying!
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: grats, your scripts aren't all bad
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Starling giggles at Scars's actions.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Alas, I think it would 'get tech my script fails' :(
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: my client just sent "wield tech my script fails" :/
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: See, their scripts are definitely bad.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: wilbon, there are a couple ways to approach your problem, but to be frank... none of the solutions to this are really worth the effort
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: ....if you're even still paying attention to this channel i guess
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: mine didn't. :) My trigger to move channels to a different window kicks in first.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: it's not set to reparse after moving them. :)
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: is there a way to get quotes around the tech channel?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: I don't knoe of one...
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: "tell everyon to type in quotes"
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: "why am i doing this again?"
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It's too bad the old hunt triggers probably don't work anymore. 'gossip is kill questor from here.' and see if you get any hits.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: look up on the help #sub commands, you could force them in there i guess... i still don't think it's worth doing it
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: you should go try it. i like watching people get nuked.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: this works for me  for mush client   <trigger   enabled="y"   match="^* DISARMS your weapon sending * flying!$"   sequence="100"  >  <send>get %2</send>  </trigger>
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: or at least jailed
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: ewwww mush
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Not sure if that's nuke-worthy.  Probably freeze-worthy. :P
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: durka durkastang
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: durka durkastan
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: ok thanks for the help i used ^:+ DISARMS you and sends your .+ flying!$
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: umm square brackets around the :+
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik boggles at the concept.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: how come i cant do square bracket in tells and channels?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: put a ~
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: [^:]+ DISARMS you and sends your .+ flying!$
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: that seems to work, if someone can bust it that would be much appreciated
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: hmm... that looks vulnerable to emote
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: actually, i think an emote would be able to make identical output to the disarm message...
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Yep. Exploitable. XD
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: is it even possible to make a rearm trigger not vulnerable to emote, it seems like an emote can duplicate the exact message...
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: I cross-check the first match with my MobDB... But before I started the MobDB I just had it check it against the mob I was fighting.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PainInThe Ashtoreth Tech: you can have the colors of the words or letters be a factor in the trigger matching
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: how do you tell what mob you are fighting in script?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Statmon does a good job of providing that information.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: wilbon, i can think of several reasons you may not want to make this modification...
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: for example, if you fight multiple mobs, and a 3rd or 4th mob you aren't aimed on disarms you, you're trigger would not fire
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Yeah, that's why I MobDBed. XD
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: open e
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: if its an array of mobs fighting you it would
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: But the likelihood of multiple mobs disarming you... Is that a high probability?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: what if you fight a player?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: or multiple players
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: you want to keep it disarmed?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: what if you're wielding a mob?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: like argot.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Ah... I don't PK. So in that case, an array of those doing damage to you? And on position change back to sit/stand/sleep/rest reset the array?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: is there an emote tag?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: so i can tell if an emote is happening?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: just use the ending of the battle to trigger the clear
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: ^You receive %n experience points.$
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: clear the trigger when battle ends, and use the battle prompt to enable the trigger?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Ah, but if you die, Menace, that isn't foolproof. :P
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Or flee.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: two triggers...
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Or they flee.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Or... lol
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: or you're teleported
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: or your computer explodes
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Right. I'd go with position change indicated by statmon. :P
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: maybe one trigger for the battle prompt and one trigger for the regular prompt
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: or if you go linkdead or blah
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: then only vulnerable to emote during battle
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: what if you're disarmed while you're sleeping?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: how about you report someone for abusing triggers?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Haha, which can be cross-checked by the array of things doing damage to you. Done. :P
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: ooops i got so enraptured by the discussion i only have 11 minutes to finish my quest
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: it's okay, nost of them can be completed in 5
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: err, most
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Make sure you change your title before you run around, Wilbon. :P
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: is it possible to expand vars in zmud #regex?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agharti Tech: i have a question about zmud, if anyone might be able to help...
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: What?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agharti Tech: how do i get rid of {chan ch=gossip} etc. at beginning of each line in zmud
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: That's MUD side, and you can type 'tags channels off.'
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Unless you're wanting those tags on, at which case, you can #SUB it out.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agharti Tech: ok, lemme try..
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agharti Tech: cool, ty Charneus
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agharti Tech: question if anyone is awake...
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: yeah, there are a couple of people awake, though I can't promise to have the answer you want
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agharti Tech: how do i replace say "." with something else in zmud?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agharti Tech: np :-)
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agharti Tech: like to edit my desc...using "." doesn't work
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: hmmm...gimme a sec..
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agharti Tech: sure ty
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: view/preferences/special chars
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agharti Tech: k, tryin
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: got it, put a  before your .
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: a ``
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: grr
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: can't type
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: lol
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agharti Tech: ah view/preferences/special chars
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agharti Tech: worked
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: put a ~ before your .
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agharti Tech: changes the "." to a "_"
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: nods tilda ignores the special character following it
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agharti Tech: cool
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: ~
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agharti Tech: ty guys
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agharti Tech: got it, tyvm
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agharti Tech: till i need the "_" anyway, then  :-)
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: just know to use the tilde and you'll be fine.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agharti Tech: gotcha thnx Lac
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: Does anyone know how I can clean dust out of a 4870 and a cpu cooler fan
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: i have no idea whats a 4870, but can't you just use a duster?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: are you going to remove the coolers from the pc?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: or clean them inplace?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: clean in place.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: I dont have any extra thermal paste.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: maybe you can just suck out the dirt with a vaccum
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: Can any experts confirm thats a good idea?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: suck with vacuum, blow with hair dryer on cool, either way
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: that can work if you're really careful...
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: care that the dryer is on cool though
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: most vacuum cleaners would create a lot of static electricity so prob not a very good idea
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Decisively Instant snickers softly.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: a brush is safest then?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: fair enough. Thanks people :)
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: so lets say I use the hair dryer..
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: how do I get the dust out? :P
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agharti Tech: blow with your mouth, seriously, just plug yours nose...then vacuum the area around it.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: you blow the dust into the hair, breathe it in and wipe your snot afterwards
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: air*
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: *snicker*
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: no, cool hair dryer or canned air is best.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agharti Tech: canned air, good idea
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: invented for the purpose no?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: careful with canned air, you dont want to freeze stuff
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agharti Tech: no air compressors though...
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: or agharti's suggestion works in a pinch, be careful not to spit...
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agharti Tech: hehe
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: blow up a balloon then hold opening near fan and release air
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: with any of those methods you wont get the thin layer clinging to the surface... for that you'll need a contact cleaning method
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: lick!
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: then again, do you need it shiny and sparkly?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kirua wets his mouth and licks
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agharti Tech: Q-tips would work for that
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: q-tips work well for that...and rubbing alcohol for the fan and heatsink, just be careful not to spill.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: you could soak and wash the whole board in soapy water then leave it for a few weeks to dry out
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: not funny, yhogurk... The dishwasher doesn't work, either. ;)
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: I had someone bring in a laptop for repair that they spilled food on and then put in the dishwasher.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agharti Tech: no way
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decisively Instant Tech: Jesus mother****ing A... you guys go on like a bunch of old ladies. I asked a damn simple question and you guys start a whole joke on it :P
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: obviously dishwasher won't work, but soaking does as long as you're sure it's dry before using
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: I had an awful time not laughing my a$$ off at their stupidity.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: it wasn't a joke, Instant.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: make sure you rinse it properly tho'
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agharti Tech: did you tell them to start with building blocks, then work their way up to PCs?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: dry it a microwave
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: heh
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: in a*
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: ooo sparks!
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: microwave ovens don't do drying
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: shhh
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: baby pcs are crying right now
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: you been reading too many stories about little old ladies drying their pooch in a microwave oven
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: your mom isnt old
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: no, I told them they needed this part and that and hit them with a $1200 repair bill..
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you can buy a new one for that :P
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: yes, they could have, but they didn't want a new one. I suggested it.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: what would that part be?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: btw - does anyone know if it's possible to expand vars in regexp patterns in zmud?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kirua waves his hands in front of your face, "You don't need a new one. You need to pay me tons more to replace the double-data-rate synchronous dynamic random access memory"
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: took me a while to think of something that sounds confusing
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: I replaced the mobo, keyboard, and the hard drive. Amazingly, the lcd still worked and they'd had sense enough to remove the battery and dvd drive.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: mobo?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: oh
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: motherboard :P
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yes
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: yeah, the motherboard, and the memory.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: everything?!
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and the rest was onboard?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: the only thing left is the double-data-rate synchronous dynamic random access memory? and maybe the graphics?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: maybe the case was enchanted with fairy dust
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: yeah, everything was onboard
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so basically they kept the chassis?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: mouse! they kept the mouse!
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: pretty much...but they were determined they didn't want to buy a new computer, even if it would be cheaper.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: yeah, replaced the touchpad, too.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: you did ghost their disk right?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: heh. my friend showed me his tickets at work once. one of them described a broken coffee cup holder issue
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: maybe they thought they couldn't keep their data if they bought a new one
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: I ghosted his new one once I got stuff installed.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: not the CD thing is it dag?!
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: oh well, customers are always right
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: dvd, actually
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: lol
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: lol
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: i thought that was an urban/IT myth :P
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it usually is
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: the problem sometimes lies between the keyboard and chair
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: usually doesn't mean always.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but somewhere out there there are people that stupid
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vanion Tech: its a classic :p
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: yep, PEBKAC error
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: aka ID10T error.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: i had to google that :(
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: you can use variables in zmud when using pattern matching - haven't tried with perl regex
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: Doing tech support for a living will really make you wonder why the human race hasn't reached a Darwinian end centuries ago.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: answer: tech support
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: nodders
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: you are saving the world!
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: has anyone else tried google chrome web browser? Just trying it now seems nice.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: pretty much... I've given up on them, though. Too much stress, causes lupus flareups, threatening to reduce my life expectancy drastically.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iceman Tech: its pretty cool and simple
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: haven't messed with chrome. I use firefox, don't need another.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: ubiquity for FF is pretty nice
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: I quit doing web development, so I don't have to worry about testing in 4-5 browsers anymore...
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: i was doing a project a few years back with a classmate of mine, and there was one day where he suddenly refused to enter the computer room to use the computers (a problem that didn't occur before). I asked him why, and I'd remember his answer for the rest of my life.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: what was that?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: "I got the flu, and I'm afraid the computer will catch my virus"
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: omg
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: serious!
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: i nominate him for an immediate darwin award
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: ff has trouble with some larger pdf files I find.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: if you're curious, he finished university, and is holding a higher paying job than i am.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: ...
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ubiquity is wonderful. been using it since it came out :)
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: lol, that's non-techies for you.. And I'll bet he went into business?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: yup
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ff pdf troubles? i use sumatra for pdf viewing. it's lightning fast
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: i'd love it even more when ubiquity gets smarter NL processing :)
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: although i'm sure someone somewhere thought of making a domino's macro to order pizzas through that interface :S
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: I usually find that I do better with traditional search terms than NL stuff. I guess my brain's just too logical. 
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: searching is much easier when you know how to target... NL for the moment is like a toy :(
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lacrimosa rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: I'm sure the development of NL search will get every idiot in the world on the net eventually, but I'm not looking forward to that day.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: maybe AI would be sufficiently developed for computers to bluescreen idiots :P
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: hmmm, or better, someone would write a virus like in Snow Crash... ;) (Neal Stephenson, if you haven't read it)
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: haven't read it... did read Diamond Age though
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: snow crash is a good one
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: another good book... :) Used Cryptonomicon to get my son interested in cryptography and learning modulo arithmetic, too. :)
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: budding NSA analyst?!
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: if he doesn't go into civil engineering...
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: or music...
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: he's 15 now--got a couple more years before he has to make up his mind.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: kids being able to read... becoming a rarity :(
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: unfortunately, yes, though he was reading at a 2nd-grade level before he started kindergarten because my parents and I took the time to teach him...
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: it was basically just feeding him more info when he asked for it once we got him started with letters and their sounds...
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: get em hooked early :D
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i had a nazi grand-grandma who was a teacher for 60 years. she taught me to read when i was 3
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: well worth it. didn't have to go to 1st grade :)
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: lol
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and i managed to get kicked out of highschool twice
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: yep, he was 3. ;) Now he's just posted a 3.945 in his first semester of his freshman year, including an A in honors geometry, a year ahead of grade level plus an honors version of the course.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: I took 1st and 2nd grade in one year, Dagnir, but avoided getting kicked out of HS mostly because I was too afraid of the beatings getting worse than they already were...
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: school is overrated. i know pleny of idiots with college degrees :P
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: all a college degree says is that you've got the determination to complete a long-term project...
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: if that :P
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: any degree is only as good as the person holding it.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: true enough...
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Avatar Aang Tech: Has anyone installed windows on a mac through parallels?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: anyone cmud savvy?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: not me, sorry
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: just ask the question and someone might have the answer
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: well my mapcapture somehow got screwed up and i can't figure out how to gag the room description so that only the map appears.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: type brief
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: well its not that i don't want to see them, i just don't want them sent to my mapcapture
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: is there a way in z/cmud to use 0 to check for multiple items in one check
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: is there a way in z/cmud to use (percent)ismember to check for multiple items in one check
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well vista they made the raid driver install a bit easier, thank goodness
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pezu Tech: can anyone help me with a mush client question?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: What's up?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pezu Tech: i'm trying to get my mush client window to display a map in another window, but can't figure out how to even open a new window without connecting somewhere else
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Ack, no idea about that
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you can use the aardwolf mushclient from the home page and it does that automatically
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: look under views or windows.. there could be status window or something at least thats how it is in zmud
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Impotent Inicus shakes his head at Dfury.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: MUSH is way different than zmud
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: never used it.. zmud 4tw
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pezu Tech: can you tell me how to do that in zmud/cmud? :)
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: in zmud you go to windows-> status window
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: that would enable the second window
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pezu Tech: do you know how to configure that window to display just one thing?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: yes use the status window varible to define what to display in zmud
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: or simply right-click on the newly opened status window
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daniiel Tech: after i tried the aardwolf mushclient, and switched back to zmud, my prompt is still really runny, and "prompt all" will not reset it. anyone know how to fix this ?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The men in white coats have come to take Daniiel away.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I tried a Dashiell Tech: try "statmon".
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: statmon
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's separate from your prompt
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: really runny?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: like an egg?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: or a nose?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daniiel Tech: supposed to be funny =P
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I tried a Dashiell Tech: more like Forrest Gump.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: RAWRRR
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: ?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: sorry, mudclient messing up
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: right
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: ah
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: left?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: is there anyway to gag just a part of a line in zmud, say the rname tag but not the whole room name?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes 
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: with sub or psub
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: got it, thanks
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aestan Tech: any websites I should check out when shopping for a new desktop?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: best is to buy your own parts (:
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aestan Tech: when I've done that in the past it runs more expensive
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: heh really
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: mm maybe its different here in singapore. its like way cheaper. 
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aestan Tech: yeah, some of the off-name stores like ibuypower and avadirect tend to buy in bulk so they get cheaper prices
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aestan Tech: ah yeah... I've never bought parts in singapore so that may be ;)
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: i've had great luck with newegg.com
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: hehe famous website
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: and microcenter, a local computer shop, sells a lot of refurbished PCs for pretty good deals
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: if your current desktop isn't that old, upgrading is usually cheaper, Newegg often has some of the best prices. Micro Center is a national chain that has good deals sometimes, but Newegg usually has mainboard/processor/memory deals that will beat buying a new prebuilt box if you already have a graphics card and hard drive...
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: heh, i meant local to the states.  i don't think they have microcenters in singapore, but i've never checked.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilidar Tech: and half the fun of building a new PC is getting a new graphics card
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ilidar drools all over himself -- making a TERRIBLE mess!
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: haha its crazy cheap over here even if i buy pieces in stores physically
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: i have to agree, parts in singapore are cheap
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: It'd be nice to be able to get parts cheap that aren't two upgrade cycles out...
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: regex question i'm using a group that looks like this - (has arrived from the|leaves)  how can i only pull the 'arrived' or 'leaves' and ignore everything else?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aestan Tech: my current desktop is 5 years old, and I'm pretty sure either the HD, the MB or both are starting a downward spiral of death
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: lol ouch
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aestan Tech: and the graphics card isn't a big concern for me... I'm doing cuda stuff for work so they'll give me a nice one
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aestan Tech: so maybe the bundles
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: i believe newegg has bundles as well
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: yeah, after 5 years you start needing to replace everything but the chassis to upgrade. Make sure you upgrade your power supply to something that can support modern processor and graphics cards.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: Newegg does have bundles. :)
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: yup, power supply is important
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: yup make sure you get a good lasting one
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: pcre - has arrived from (the|leaves)
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: and imho, it's more cost effective getting stuff that are 1/2 cycles old
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: yes, it's far more cost effective...
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: yesterday's technology :D
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: disregard that :)
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: already did :)
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: yeah, but it'll work well for another couple of years at least
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aestan Tech: any suggestions on CPUs?  I'm thinking Intel Core 2 Duo, but I haven't looked into the others very much
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: Nice processors... my next machine will likely have one.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: mmm i just got myself the new amd quad core
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: and it runs pretty quiet/cool
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: and the price seems pretty competitive :D
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: nice, but out of my budget for a while here.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: actually it wasn't that much more expensive than intel dual core higher ends i think?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: I've got a friend who's getting intel at wholesale now. ;)
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: then again its true not alot is able to use quad now heh
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: have quad cores significantly improved or are they still like good  dual cores?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: you might be able to do it using backreferences, but most likely it's easier to do it in code instead
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: nah lol. its still underutilized
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: so, anyone here ever seen a laptop that charges fine and runs off battery with no problems, but has the LCD black out within 1 sec after plugging in AC power?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: yours!
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: lol
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: have you tried taking out the battery and using it plugged in?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: have you checked the power profile config in windows ?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: lol, yes, Kirua... ;) I'm trying to figure out if it's the power brick or the circuit that draws off the adapter when it's plugged in instead of the battery. Power profile is set up correctly, haven't tried with battery out...will check that in a sec.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: werent you asking about this the other day ?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: did you check the "power brick" is outputting correct voltage ?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: might've, but I was at a convention at the time...and short on sleep
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: or "any" voltage ?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: nothing to use to check adapter. It's putting out voltage, because it charges the battery to full power.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: so it blanks out the screen, but charges the battery
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: yes. and a quick test shows that it also only powrs the screen for a short time (few seconds) with battery removed. I think this is narrowed down to the adapter now.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackraven Tech: go to electroics store and buy a cheap multimeter, i can get them for $10AUS so you wll prob pay $5
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: I'll probably pick one up next week
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: what is a good alternative program to use instead of system restore?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: hmm..a fully fledged backup program? or are you just trying to recover the os or something?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: i want to uninstall a program to diagnose a machine but i need a restore point pre-uninstall
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: the program seems to have messed up system restore so i am looking for another
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: So is (forgive the dumb) what you mean - you want to backup the system as it is 'NOW', then uninstall the software?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: yes
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: So something like Norton Ghost?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: these aren't programs I know - but maybe the others will
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: heh..I am currently ghosting a crashed 1 tb hdd 
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: meh that requires purchasing i am certain
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: nah, find a torrent of hiren's bootcd
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: As I say - the others may know
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: i would happily remove this stupid tuneup utilities program
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: lots of handy utilities for pc recovery, including ghost
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: but i am certain the customer will moan about wanting it back
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eternal Anguish Tech: bart pc works well
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eternal Anguish Tech: er, make that Bart PE
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why worry? just say it's a virus
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and get rid of it
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: because i am pretty sure the idiot paid the $40 or whatever to license it
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bloody hate laptop manufacturers who hard-code bios passwords
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: built in redundancy
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: redundant redundancy ?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no, just frustrating and annoying
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone know a way of hacking it?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: whats the lappy model and brand ?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: hp pavillion ze4547WM
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: could clear the bios if you can find the CMOS battery
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: silly and annoying to try and hardcode protection like that, that's what SOFTWARE is for
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no you couldn't, mikejs, you newb ;-)
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: so you can get in to bios but it's password locked ?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no, bios is password locked
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: there's no boot password, just a bios password
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: try   Award_SW 
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: remove the mobo battery?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: that's what i just said, but Tigernuts is under the impression that it can't be done, for some reason
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not under the impression of anything, it doesn't work on 99.9% of laptops made after the turn of the century
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: BIOS hack tool:  http://www.11a.nu/FILES/!BIOS/SRC/DOS/unpacked/BIOS320.EXE
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'll have to check that, kitaro, looking at their master password lists atm
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: that link is untested by me
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: urgh
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: safe?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i would think so
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: seems to be, tons of the link are dead tho, can't have been maintained for a y ear or more
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's so silly, because people who want that level of protection are going to use some form of software hdd encryption software anyway, so what's the point of having a feature that turns your laptop into a useless brick?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: omg check out  http://www.11a.nu/security/pc-bios-security-password-recovery/
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: backdoor lists, lol
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: lol nm, it's a broken site
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: here is a list of bios backdoor passwords (i checked it this time, lol)   http://www.tech-faq.com/reset-bios-password.shtml
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Life is Meaningless Tech: hah windows update triggered UAC
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: eww
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Life is Meaningless Tech: vista must be its own worst enemy
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: silly viusta
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: good thing i use a super hacked version
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that sounds like it'll be as big a fiasco as XP SP2 turning on the firewall
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyranno Ruckus Tech: mojave?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tyranno Ruckus skips around going, "La la la..."
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: silly MS, thinking they can stop piracy
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Life is Meaningless Tech: i like vista, i just think it's not very smart sometimes.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Life is Meaningless Tech: i'd rather have vista to xp
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Honestly, Abelinc lets a bunch of malaria-infested mosquitoes loose on the Tech channel
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i'd rathe have win7 than vista, but i prefer xp still
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: the win7 beta is nice
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Life is Meaningless Tech: ted reference
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: vista they stopped you repairing the os, which is a bit of an arseache
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i have the crack to stop win7beta time limit too, lol
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well,i'm out of ideas on this one
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: backup, reinstall, thank you, come again
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: how is that going to help?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: hmmm?  wats the issue ?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: lol
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bios password on that laptop i mentioned earlier
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: "hello, IT... did you try turning it off and on again?"
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: oh
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: lol, IT crowd wins !
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyranno Ruckus Tech: did you remember to water it
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: "well, ok.  are you sure it's plugged in?"
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: haha
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: IT crowd is basically awesome
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: you are NOT going to the funeral dressed like that !    wat funeral ?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: In this small box, I have 'the Internet'
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: I have it on good authority that if you google "google" the internet will break
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: uhh, we've installed a voice activation system on your computer.  it might take a few tries to get the pitch just right, though.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if they set up crappy anti-trust law suits about absolutely nothing against microsoft, surely they penalise HP for deliberately including a feature that renders their laptops completely useles
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: silly wankers in the US government for you, i guess
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: did you even *try* the cmos battery thing? it's worth a shot. you just need to make sure ALL sources of power are cut off from your motherboard, including the laptop battery
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's been tried already, mikejs
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: ok, that's fair.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: did you try all those passwords i linked to ?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yup
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: did you try http://www.11a.nu/wp-content/uploads/2006/03/BIOS320.EXE
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: most of them are for machines prior to 1999
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: can't remember, lemme download it again
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: did you call HP and demand the tell you how to unlock it or you will come round there with an axe ?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: HP want the equivalent of $400 to do it
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: o_O
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: after that i would switch it back on and pee in the cooling holes and tell the client it must of been water damage, did his assistant/wife/kid drop coffee/water on it ?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: this is a newer version of a tool i've tried before, has a few extra bits on it, so i'll give it a go
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Hit it hard with a hammer - 'did you not see the large hole in the side'?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: given this tool is coming up with several hundred hits, i don't think it's likely to work
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kitaro shrugs helplessly.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Calihan Tech: anyone here can provide help with excel?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: might as well ask your question?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ivet Tech: Depends what sort of help you need?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Calihan Tech: good point.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Calihan Tech: i want to make a register that i can enter in debt purchases in a command line rather than adding a row
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: sorry, i don't get the question...
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: command line in excel ?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: closest thing you'll get is a form where you fill in the boxes
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: but that's not a command line
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechter Tech: Excel is the wrong tool.  Look into Access if you're an MS Office junkie.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: sounds like homework
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: when you close the mush client, it automatically 'quits' your character?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: nah you go link dead
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: No
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik nods at Kitaro.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: thanks
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Calihan nods at Lechter.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nope, that tool doesn't work either
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Calihan Tech: was thinking html would be easiest ;)
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: HTML doesn't save information...HTML is a display
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: anyone want to assist with tinyfuge, never set it up before
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Fiendish:  I think it's an idiom.  I don't think it's supposed to be taken literally. :P
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Mis.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Too many cold medications.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Melty B Tashed gasps in astonishment.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you can talk here. this is my channel too
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Cool, tech channel is offically renamed to Starlingchat.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: How do I sub Tech to Starlingchats then =(
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I don't know.  I can do it in zmud, but no idea what you're using.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Impotent Inicus pouts. 
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I'm going to go lie back down now and resume feeling sorry for myself.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: anyone know of a ouple of public access dns server ips? my isps spend more time down than up lately it seems
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: 4.2.2.2
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: thanks
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: I've had that issue a couple of months ago. Those are Level3's (4.2.2.3 and 4.2.2.4 as well) and are backup military backbone network, so they should be available regularly.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: does anyone know why the directory zmud searches for my access database got changed from its default and how i can change it back?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: what access database?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: something you use a script based on ado sql, the map, the char db?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: my own access database, just an mdb file i put in my aardwolf directory
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: ado sql
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: check the path statements in the script
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: nothing to do with zmud, it'll be script specific
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: it was working fine before, but i logged into another mud and now zmud is searching for the mdb in a different directory
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: nogs..change it to a full path statement in the script, zmud keeps config settings for different muds in different directories
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: the path statement just contains the database name without any folder in front
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: so scripts with path statements of the form ..\\aardwolf\blah.mdb are liable to break in such conditions
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: well, there's your problem..change it to a full path
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: so for me it'd be like c\zmud\aardwolf\db\mobwalks.mdb
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: is it possible to rever tto the original setting? not very keen on setting a fixed path because i shuttle my settings to and fro from work
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: i'd rather just copy the db over and be done with it
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: it was working fine before with it in the aardwolf directory
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: not sure.I just always copy my whole zmud settingass and leave it in the same drive location when I move stuff around between pcs or to and from work etc
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: nod..i guess i'll have to do it that way then..thanks :)
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: anyone using cmud?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: yeah bout to go back to zmud though :/
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: why don't like it?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: keeps crashing 
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: What's wrong with Cmud?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Other than it being a Zugg product?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: what os are you running on?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: xp sp3
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: heh i had to disable a whole lot of things to run it finally on server08 64bits
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: wonder if its worth paying for :p
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what is cmud written in -- Delphi ?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: believe so, zmud was
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Binnesman Tech: does anyone use the mushclient
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: What's up
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Binnesman Tech: do you use the mushclient of another client
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: What?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Binnesman Tech: i just came back to the game after being away for 2 years or so and Aardwolf now has a mushclient you can download
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Yup.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Binnesman Tech: do you use it?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Yup.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Binnesman Tech: can you save speedwalks and stuff and commands
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: If you're using it on vista, you have to run it as admin
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Binnesman Tech: how do i save a speed walk in the Aardwolf client
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Are you using Vista?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Binnesman Tech: yes vista
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: And you're trying to make an alias?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Then pay attention to what I said
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: you have to run it as the administrator
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Binnesman Tech: i am
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: So.. 
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: You're trying to make speedwalks?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Binnesman Tech: yes
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Using aliases?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Binnesman Tech: I guess
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: You guess?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Why not just use 'runto'?
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Binnesman Tech: on the web page in one of the screen shots it shows a box with speedwalk in it
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: It's been a while since you played - the first thing you should do is recall, go up and go through the academy
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: you'll see that speedwalks aren't an immediate concern
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Yeah man, you're just confusing me now.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Binnesman Tech: i use zmud
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Binnesman Tech: wanted to try this clent
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: honestly - I'd stick with zmud
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: Binnesman, seriously, go through the academy.
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: it's well worth doing and it's nothing like the old mudschool
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: The screenshot you're looking at isn't a plugin for speedwalks
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: It's the help window
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Binnesman Tech: ahhh
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: And either way, you can just 'runto area' now
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Binnesman Tech: thanks guys let me read help runto:)
T1/r5/2009-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: anyone use lua w/CMUD know if there is a workaround for when zs.param() returns 0
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GdAnGuS Tech: anyone have any tricks for getting #play to work in zmud?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Have the media files in your zMUD directory or quote the path names.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GdAnGuS Tech: ah.. #play used to work w/ mp3s, not since reinstall for some reason. mp3 -> wav converter replaced _'s w/ spaces in the filenames.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus goes, "Hmmmm."
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GdAnGuS Tech: (i highly recommend the original AOE sounds for aardwolf)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: how wud i go about getting it so that i will auto cancel and respellup whenever a spell runs out....with extremely minimal knowledge of programming
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: why not use 'spellup 1 201 50 100"?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: that will just recast all spells that are not already on you, that you have practiced 50 to 100 percent
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: what tech so will just typing spellup but i want it to cast cancel and the spellup again when one spell expires
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: there will always be a spell that runs out first right? just make a trigger to cast cancel a couple of times, and then the spellup command then.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: to cast cancel when that spell runs out
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: thats what i wanted was how to set up a trigger....i meant i really have minimal to the extreme knowledge of scripting and programming
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: although if the spell runs out during combat, you'd be in trouble.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: a trigger is just letting your client respond to a set phrase with something
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: go experiment with the triggers
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i kinda know what it is i just dont know how to do it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: respelling after a single spell runs out is gonna cost a lot of mana..not to mention issues with cancellation not cancelling all your spells or losing conc with certain spells..
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: i'd suggest aliasing a simple command to spellup 1 201 50 100 and typing that everything before  you go into battle
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: agreed
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: ok
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: anyone knows anywhere to get some good cmud scripts for aard?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Has anyone been able to run the MUSHclient spellup plugin and had a problem where spells wouldn't cast?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: spellup 1 210 50 100
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Thanks for not answering my question.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: i dont use mushclient i was just suggesting that
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: and yourwelcome
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: i resisted the temptation~
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: heh i tried using it and it had some problems inicus
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: no idea how to get it to work so i stopped using it altogether :P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: i believe if you go to the forums..they seem to be still looking for a solutino for it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Did you use the Aardwolf client, or install the spellup plugin to your previous MUSHclient
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: nah i used the aardwolf client
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: -15
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: i could use the alias and stuff but i think it wasn't running really well..for those spells that i lose concentration it it'll keep repeating the spells when another spell casts
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Killhappy Instant Tech: oh my... my 4870 is on 60 degrees...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: is there a way to change the color of the debate channel? dark red is hard to read...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: dark of any colour is hard to read, in my client i changed all the dark colours to lighter versions
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: the client eh? thanks
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: there might be ways to do it mudside, but i can't be bothered, i set it once client side and it'll work for all muds
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: help colorset
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but if you set it once MUDside, it'll be set even if you use a different computer/client ;-)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: beat me to it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: thanks, now i just have to figure out what i did to change my command window font back
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try initaard
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imouto Saelle Tech: Gah, can't remember where an old plugin I used to enable commandline alias addition for mushclient was...anyone knows/remembers where I could get it?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: heh i would die for one of those too too troublesome to go through the menu ...heh
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: im thinkin google
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imouto Saelle Tech: ...I've tried and am still looking -_-
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imouto Saelle Tech: Might be more doable if google would search for #alias instead of just alias
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: check http://mushclient.com/forum/?id=7123
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imouto Saelle Tech: Uh, no, not what I'm looking for. Never mind, went through a backup disc and found it.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: wats it called ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why is vista so shit?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: It amuses Microsoft.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: why are you asking rhetorical questions?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: got another of these bloody "unidentified network" problems
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: is that one of the replacements for the BSoD?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: do you have anything blocking CIFS traffic ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nothing blocking any traffic
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: had this problem on another laptop once upon a time, can't remember how it was finally solved
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the network identifying feature of vista is a bloody nightmare, wish you could turn it off
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: it was solved by installing linux?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no, manufacturer doesn't support linux, vendor doesn't support linux, local tech support doesn't support linux, isp doesn't support linux. Why then, would installing that help anyone? :-)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: cause if you have linux you dont need support
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: joe public needs support
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: let joe public pay for it then
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: well, once you get it up and running initially, anyway, Kitaro. :) Personally, I'd blow away Vista and give it 64-bit XP and I wouldn't have any more issues. :)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i have known many IT pros who like MS products simply cause it keeps them employed
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: thats the reason linux will never succeed
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: heh, for the ones I know, it's a love-hate relationship.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, linux's whole business model is based on needing support...that doesn't really back your stance
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: People on this MUD have certain useful skillsets. We could raid microsoft....
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: no that is redhat hat's business model, not linuxes
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not just redhat...all companies which are based on linux (and all OSS systems)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: redhat basiclly sells security updates and provides a security blanket for managment who want a business to sue in the case of failure
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: debian will provide securtiy updates free
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i thought linux was so secure it didn' t need security updates?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://www.debian.com/consultants/
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: 1st semester software engineering "there is no such thing as bug free software"
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Nah there's always some Korean 11 year old who discovers a way to install a rootkit through your fonts or something weird
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: Linux is pretty secure, but there will always be people trying to find loopholes and you have to stay ahead of it.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's no different to windows, just many more users, many more hole-finders
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: also less maintence, if you shifted a business from windows to linux based systems admin overhead, and therefore staff could be cut in half at minimum
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not my job, not my problem
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i deal with end users/small organisations :-)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: the one advantage is that the smaller and generally more tech-savvy user base makes it less attractive to hole-finders
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not unless the business is isolated
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: just saying windows succeeds not because of it's merits, and that windows failures are part of what keeps it in the market
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i agree entirely
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: viruses gives me paid work
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: yup, i repeat "i have known many IT pros who like MS products simply cause it keeps them employed"
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what was that, kitaro?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: people who complain about MS products sucking are shallow
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tigernuts points excitedly at Yhogurk!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: at least they won't drown
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: hehe
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lacrimosa laughs out loud at Tigernuts.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: now for more important issues, like eating this banana
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reoden Tech: Anyone here I can ask a question regarding MUSHclient to?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: shoot
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reoden Tech: I'm getting chats from all the different channels in both the chats and the aardwolf window. Is there a way to have them show only in one specific window?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: yeah
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: chats echo off
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reoden Tech: Oh sweet, Thanks a ton. :D
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: homeplug networking kits. why would you do it to yourself?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: huh ?  wats that ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: because you're an idiot who's scared of learning to do it right?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: err, actually lacrimosa, it's technology that really doesn't work very well
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I think lacrimosa's point was that while it doesn't work that well, it IS easy ;-)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: networking is still a black science to many people who don't subscribe to this channel
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: omg wow i had the idea for networking over home power lines years ago, now they are selling it in the US, lmao
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: i think if you read tnuts comment it seems to be saying what would you want to inflict yourself with that technology
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: they're a network thing that are supposed to use your electrical wiring in your house to do networking. I haven't looked at them--I aced my Cisco classes...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not just in the US, they're selling it world over
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: fiiiigghhht!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: well i live in oz and they dont sell it here
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod yhogurk
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that you've seen yet
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: over here in the UK, it works in modern houses whose wiring conforms to the latest standards, but most houses are >50 years old and don't
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so people buying it is a little like russian roulette - will it work, or will it suck?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: shouldn't those old houses be rewired anyway?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no, yhogurk, they aren't dangerous
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, yhogurk has obviously never done any house rewiring
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: anyone know the standard name for homeplug ?  IEEE number maybe ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: I expect that's the same situation I'd find in many places here, Tigernuts. As far as danger, yhogurk, not unless the insulation's bad on the wiring.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 792,3u
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: no, i'm not a qualified electrician
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: woops, 802.3u
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeplug :P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're not a qualified electrician, you just happen to have a spare 100 grand to rewire a house for no reason other than to not have to pay a Best Buy guy to run a network cable
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: wouldn't you rather base 1Gbit lan over a slightly dodgy 85mb max homeplug, anyway?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not if primary purpose is 10mb Internet access
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 10? here? you'd be lucky
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: exactly
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no, but you NEED 1gbit for mudding!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: i live in an igloo so it shouldn't cost much to rewire
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: even a 20-year-old NIC can keep up with the Internet pipe...it's all about the bottleneck
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: all MIPS no 1/0?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's a lovely story, apathy, but i smoke chimpanzee's, because they're milder
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod apathy...you can spend all you want to "increase" speed, but if you're increasing the speed in the wrong spot, there'll be no realworld change
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: I can see one good application for homeplug... High-schoolers whose parents won't let them have internet access in their room. ;) I'm still not going to use it.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Unrequited Apathy nods.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Binnesman Tech: are you able to program Macros using the mushclient running vista?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: vista has nothing to do with it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure binnesman
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Binnesman Tech: i must be doing something wrong then. I go to Game configure macros but I can get it to except the macro. Like F1 example L in Back
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Binnesman Tech: i get a failed error
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: error from the mud or from mushclient ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: a failed error is worse than a normal error
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: binnesman, do you have it running as administrator?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: and worse of all is the I dee ten tee error. That can be crippling.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Binnesman Tech: mushclient
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: isnt a "fail error" a double negative, therefore it means success ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Binnesman Tech: it says failed to launch help
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vista won't let programs save settings to the program files folder unless the program is running as admin
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: ah-hah i know the issue
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i-dee 10t's are bad, nogs
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Binnesman Tech: i am in admin
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: file | global prefs | general
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salience Tech: If I were to want to abandon at some point the Aard Mushclient, when I go back to the previous client, how do I remove the garbled script that is embedded from my display?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are you logged in as admin, or did you right-click your MUSH icon to tell it to run as admin?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: F1,F6 are macros
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: salience, type "tags off"
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salience Tech: Thanks :)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Binnesman Tech: right clicked 
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: nothing to do with vista
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try re-installing MUSHclient, might have some corrupted bits somewhere
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it generally will "just work", so that error is unusual
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: which bright spark decided to change the definition of a gigabyte, anyway?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: what do you mean?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: yeah sorry i decided to redo the whole SI
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well, a gigabyte is supposed to be 1024mb, which is 1024k, which is 1024bytes which is 8bits
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: but some marketing twat decided to make a gigabyte 1000mb, which means you then get a large disparity between quoted capacity and actual capacity
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maspluto Tech: its because its easier to think of it as 1000 than 1024 for most ppl i guess
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: for instance, a 320gb drive, once you're taken into account the difference in definition, then taken off the overheads, then format it to ntfs, you end up with 298
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tiger, this isn't a gigabyte thing...that's been an issue since the dawn of computers
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well it's not, because we all know what it is, but some marketing twat changed it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a 20 MB drive in the 80's formatted well under 20MB as well
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: no it's cause 1000 sounds like more when you are trying to flog your wares to a mark
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: most people don't think in binary, unfortunately. And that's been an issue since kilobytes.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so where the hell have you been for the 20 years that this has been an issue, that you're suddenly shocked by it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maspluto Tech: i remember fdformatting my 1.2mb floppies into 1.8mb!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: well if the base unit is an octet, ie 8 bits, then it's octal not binary, lol
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no kitaro, 8 bits is binary, period
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 8 bits is a grouping of bits...binary units
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a grouping doesn't change its base
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: a bit is binary. two states, not 8.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's metrication gone mad
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: storage capacity isnt quoted in megabits etc in marketing
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: now all we need is advice from the dozenal society
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, is a dozen base 12 or base 10?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you know very well someone said "ahh well, it's close, lets just make it 1000 for easiness"
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: a dozen refers to 12 base ten
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: exactly, kit ;-)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tigernuts, didn't you guys move over to the metric system over there? ;-)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: that's precisely backwards of what they did. They took the nearest round number in binary to 1000 and called it a kilobyte.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: a rose by any other name
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: a kilobyte was not originally defined as a 1000 bytes
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: assuming a byte = octet, 100 bytes is not a kilobyte
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tigernuts, defined is not the same as understood
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: 1000*
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: understood is not equal to correct
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: doesn't need to be
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 1kb = 1024bytes, anything else, no matter how well understood, is factually incorrect
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: no, it wasn't, and still isn't. A kilobyte is 1024 bytes, which is a round number in binary.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: a Kilobyte is larger than a kilobyte
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your use of the term factually is actually incorrect
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: hehe, semantics argument KGO
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: a Kilobyte is 1024 bytes, a kilobyte is 1000 bytes
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the second measure is nonsense and shouldn't exist
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: according to a techie
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and if we only allowed computer products to be sold to computer people, that's how it would be
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: only sales care about 1000 bytes = kbyte
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: at some point someone caved into the french and tried to metricise it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they didn't "try to metricise it"...the TERM is from metric
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: kilo is a french word, lol
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: perhaps a MB is 1024*1024 bytes  or 1024*1000 bytes or 1000*1000 bytes
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: megabyte is 2^20 bytes
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: MB is 1024*1024, Mb is 1000*1024, mb is 1000*1000?:P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: mb is *.001   :p
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: pretty much, Kitaro, but salespeople are the one who manage to keep enough of them going out the door to non-techies that their companies stay in business.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the original geeks that created the terms defined them as approximating metric, the ambiguity existed from the time things went over 1k bytes
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: My car gets forty rods to the hogshead and that's the way I likes it.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: 2^20 is the capitalised MegaByte 
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: next you'll try and tell us that a byte is 10 bits
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it is, sometimes
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Or 9.  or 7.  6.  12.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no, it has to be, some french arsehole said so
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: a byte is a system dependant number of bits
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: and in some cases, 20 Mb is 2^20 bits
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: precisely what I said earlier, Abelinc..
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well, you've neglected that fact that i quite badly need a poo, so we'll leave it there and say no more about it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Honestly, Abelinc craps all over Tigernuts
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: yay german porn
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: wish the BBC hadn't chosen Kontiki for delivering their iplayer tv programs over the web, it's shit
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: maybe that is the reason the BBC chose that delivery method
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i chose bittorrent :)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i choose pikachu
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: the BBC does not want to deliver anything much over the internet
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: Kontiki is a dredful resource hog, it's sitting there using 7% of my CPU resources atm, and i have absolutely no idea why
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: is it java based ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: h4x :P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: don't think so
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: shit based, maybe, but not java
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: the BBC, leading the way forwards in poo tech
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: several reasons a program is a cpu-resource hog:  badly-coded-software, crappy-programming-language, OS-compatibility-mode, antipiracy-snooping, cpu-cycle-stealing-for-science-calculations, virustrojans-infections, your-antivirus-software-is-watching-what-the crap-program-doing-(say registry activity?)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: reason 1 or 2
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: rest not likely
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: crppy language "implementation"
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: crappy-programming-implementaion is likely taught somewhere
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: like if the debug-code was never removed, and the code contains lots of checks for unlikely circumstances
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: sounds like anything written in Ada
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: however i think Ada is great... for wat it was designed for
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: if apple wrote the software for pc machines -- apple deliberately writes slow code for non-apple machines
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: nah, you are paranoid
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: so that apple machines run faster by comparison
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: apple dont care about software, apple are a hardware retailer
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: and apple have never competed based on speed
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: which is odd, since their stuff is so expensive
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: it's also very high quality
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: Apple is likely to sell more apple hardware if the software they supply on non-apple machines runs slowly
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: high quality? it's exactly the same components as everybody else, just a high quality shell
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: no because people dont buy pc's to run itunes
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: many componets are the same, such as CPU's these days, but the assembly and QC are much higher... it's pretty easy to see if you take then apart
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: everything is made in china/taiwan anyway
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: probably in the same factory :P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: as soon as you start working for less then the chinese, im sure itll be made wherever you're from ;)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: lol yeah, and the class 1 QC goes to apple, class 2 QC goes to Dell, class 3 goes to white box makers
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: you get wat you pay for
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: Apple supplies QuickTime
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: o'rly?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i know i thought about quick time when i made MY PC purchase
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: lol
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: Apple QuickTime is bloatware that runs slowly on PC machines 
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: and no one cares
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: depends whether you want to run some propriety apple formats
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: is movie viewing a critical app for you ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: not any more
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm happy with vlc. it treats me good and does whatever i want it to do
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: yeah i use vlc & winamp v2.95
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it also doesn't want me to share the 'rich vlc exerience'
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: foobar2000 for music here
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: anyone understand the point of #LOCATION (multiple location markers) in cmud 3.03 ? 
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silvia Tech: With Mushclient, how do you setup a trigger variable
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silvia Tech: for example triggering off of 'You lost your concentration while trying to cast ~%1'
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: refer to answer -h for that topic
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: best method for a lost concentration trigger is to use tags
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: saves Abelinc's fingers ;)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: You lost your concentration while trying to cast *.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: No, refer to answer -h for that topic
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: it's boring having to see it all over again
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: But I missed it the first time, so it's exciting for me :(
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: So type answer -h and read :P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: also, gammon's spellup script includes recasting
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agharti Tech: is there a good website for scripts?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Where would you get that from? (you know I don't need it, but I'll ask any way)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: What client, Agharti?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=8780
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agharti Tech: zmud
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: finger fiendish?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: easiest way to find gammon's MUSH spellup script is go to www.mushclient.com, click search, type "aardwolf spellups plugin" and it's the first hit ;-)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: another way to do spellup is just to do it three or 4 times, that takes care of most
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gammon's script makes it so you don't have to type spellup...they'll just always be kept on
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but yeah, for zmud, fiendish and danj have the most recent stuff...for cmud, check out davos
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agharti Tech: i'll check them out...thnx
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: AOL software has left my registry dirty. Bleugh
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrakPuppet Kongol Tech: while using fmud client is there a way to freeze on something cause i wanna read notes without having to scroll up every 2 seconds
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: does TF support scripting?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrakPuppet Kongol Tech: don't believe so, im at my school so im just going off my website
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrakPuppet Kongol Tech: er the website
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: can someone help me with my disarm trigger?  I have DISARMS as the trigger and take weapon
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: wear weapon as the results
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: does take weapon work manually ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: yes, its really the name of the weapon
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: do you have any successfully working triggers?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: what client you use ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: MUSH
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: in mush client non regexp strings match start of line
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: i made it a regexp
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: its my only trigger...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: post your trigger
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: how do i post it?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: you didnt have to make it regexp, you just complicated things
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: just tell us what it is
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: make it non-reg exp and use this   "A * DISARMS you and sends your * flying!"
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: ok
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: drop the "A ", some mobs aren't named like that
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PainInThe Ashtoreth Tech: if you have an aardweapon, it has to be something like... DISARMS you and you struggle not to drop your weapon
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: i don't
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: the A is not part of the mob name, it always appears
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: to test it, put a weapon on the ground the type  "echo A mob DISARMS you and sends your weapon flying!"
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: are you sure? "A Kitaro DISARMS you ..." sounds odd to me
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: it would fail for An Imperial guard
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: the 'A' is part of the mob name
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: even for unique mobs?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: or named mobs?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: because you can also have things like 'The big bird DISARMS you
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: having 'A the' would be silly
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: ok i stand corrected, remove the lead A and space
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: or The A
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: ok thanks :)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: so leave the * DISARMS... ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: hmm its not working
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i use get all;wear all
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: does it trigger ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: no
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: I put my primary weapon into a variable and do get <wep>;wear <wep>
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: i have this as the trigger "DISARMS you and sends your * flying!"
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: and then do "echo A mob DISARMS you and sends your weapon flying!"
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: but it doesn't trigger
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: Wilbon DISARMS you and sends your axe flying!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: you need * on start
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: you need "* DISARMS ..."
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: ok thanks seems to be working now
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: now we can have fun setting off your trigger :)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: of course you can make better triggers that that
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: yeah
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: lol
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: A mob DISARMS you and sends your weapon flying!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: hehe
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: lol
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: ill just leave the tech channel 
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: the trick is making the trigger not go off the tech channel
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Immanuel )
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: i keep track of whether i'm in combat and my trigger only works in combat
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: i dont use a * at beginning, i make sure there are no : in the begin
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: gotcha
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: my regex ^[\a\s',-]+ DISARMS you and sends your .+ flying!$
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: this again?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: If you have a physics-friendly tether ball going around a pole, how is the length of the cord which holds the ball related to the velocity of the ball?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: keep angular momentum constant
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: We can assume that it's constant
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: w = v^2 / r
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: What if you don't know r?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: r is the length of the cord...?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Umm... no...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: R is the radius of the circle.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Radius != length of cord if it's 3d
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: lol yes, and if the tether ball is travelling in a circle, the cord will be the radius of the circle it's travelling
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: rathik said "physics-friendly" so i presume it's a simplified model
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: unless the tether ball is hanging down by force of gravity
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Not if it's hanging down, you're thinking a 2d model, Mikejs
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon nods at Wilbon.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I didn't explain well enough: it's a tether ball going around a pole, but the ball is hanging down by the force of gravity (yes, Wilbon)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Not that I'm in any great hurry, but what would be the purpose of putting LUA support into tinyfugue - is it just something to do if you're thinking of being a builder?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: It's fun!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You don't need to do anything with your client to be a builder. :P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Other than the geeky thrills and I didn't ask that Charneus :P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik is agreeing with that Alt. Helpa Charneus person again...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: You can code in Lua then instead of TF script.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: presumably to make better bots
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: And Lua is much, much, much, much, much better than TF script.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: although i like lyntin, it lets you script in python really well
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: and python > lua
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Lies!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Okie I think that's been answered
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: is there a way to display ur cp mobs like cp check in a seperate window on mush like the bigmap does
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: its possible
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: can u explain how in a language that i, a tech-tarded person, can understand
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: No.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: i dont use mushclient so no
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: are you a coder ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: no i cant code in the least but want to learn how
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: too hard.... lol
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: there is a campain plugin that you can download that does something similar
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: do u guys no a site than will give me the basics of coding so that i can start my learning
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Google
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: what plugin is that>
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: my advice would be use the examples you have been given, read the bigmap addon code for example
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: Nick Gammon made it, Campaign Noter
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=8815&page=999 for the cp plugin
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: thanx
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I recently moved within the same city, and I have the same ISP, modem, router, etc., as before, but my pings have gone up by about 400ms... does anyone have any suggestions on finding the problem?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Play more Aardwolf. Collect data and stuff.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I've been playing Aardwolf a LOT, but I'm starting to get the feeling that it doesn't help solve it :(
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Plus, this high latency is affecting my Aardwolf play too
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik sighs.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Hey, my ping is perfect now
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik boggles at the concept.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: (well, not perfect, but perfectly matching with my expectations)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: hey anyone here?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: ya
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: hi kitaro *nice name :P*
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: I have a question, I want to have my friend channel in a seperate window, I am using MUCHclient
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kitaro raises an eyebrow at the idea.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: is it... possible? :O
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: chats echo off  --> only show in the other window
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: your a genius!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: oh, however, 
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: could I do that with friends only?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: ftalk isnt a channel is it? Sorry for the excess questions
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: dunno, im sure i could do it but i dont think you could do it easily
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: I am pretty technical, echos off would kill all chat on main window and allow it to sub window
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: problem with that is, I want to kill all chat on sub window except for friend chat.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: THAT is my issue. Its a pretty toughie I think =/
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i suggest customising the "aardwolf chat" plugin then
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: shouldnt be hard
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: ok, where would I find it? Plug in is on my comp when installing the client right?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: if you are pretty technicall finding it shouldnt be a problem, lol
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: file, plugins, highlight Aardwolf_chat.. click edit
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: umm, sorry to bother you but seriously, there is no plugins folder.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: D:\Program Files\MUSHclient\worlds\plugins\Aardwolf on my pc
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Dude.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: under worlds, got it. Ok
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: sorry, I am being pretty friggin lazy. Plus I am multi tasking a bit.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: With the aard client open.. click file.. plugins.. highlight Aardwolf_chat and click est
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: and I hate multi tasking :P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Er, click edit
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: even better! Thanks 
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i suggest that if you cant find a folder on your computer you shouldnt edit plugins....  lol you are gunna break stuff
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: I could have searched MUSHclient folder for plugins, but as I stated previously... I am just being excessively lazy.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Or you could've just done what I said the first time =/
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: hmm, it takes longer for me to type in chat than it does to find folders, lol
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: heh! this is easier than I thought, its neatly organized first off, and it isnt grouped... each channel has its own seperate trigger
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: I can just create a new plugin, copy paste this current one, and allow the friends chat trigger to be active only.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: ok, I'm done here! Appreciate it! <3 dueces
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: does openoffice support .docx yet?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: doubt it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: laptop manufacturers who put 60day free trials of ms office on their lappies are getting on my nuts
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: Why?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: because joe public are stupid
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: lemme guess, SME laptop owner think he bought full office ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: now he wants you to crack it ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: pretty much: "It's asking me for a license key!"
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nah, they can pay the $80 for ms office 07 or have openoffice for nothin, their choice
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silvia Tech: anyone have a tick timer script for zmud?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: tech i love bozos that buy cheap laptops and think windows comes with office, then are pissed when they realise it's cheap cause it DOESNT have office, lol
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no laptops or desktops come preinstalled with office
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: tell that to the bozos
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: i bought a cheap laptop and it came with OOO, I'm very happy with it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i do, frequently
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: hehehe
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: we put it on as a matter of course, snobopo
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: wats OOO ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: open office (.org)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: 000 is wat we dial when we are dyeing in Oz
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: and there's me thinking ooo was ....
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: hmm dying too
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: ooo
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Remind Hargreaves goes ooOOooOOoo.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: isn't ooo what you shout when you get your winky trapped in your zipper?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: nah
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: no i yell much more disturbing things
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: that's more aarg-eeek-ouuuu-ccch
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: and various nonpg13 words
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i think im going to hell for wat i said last time i stubbed my toe
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: pg13 sucks, it's pg12 here, and besides, given a 12 yr old just fathered a child (according to the papers), it should be pg9
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: is it 12? oh and I live in the same country
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: disturbing how bad they are these days - or were our parents just better at hiding it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yes, unless they changed it while i wasn't looking
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no, parents these days are shit. Kids having kids, basically
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i think its pg 13 in oz, but i dont pay much attention, not having kids
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Well I've been doing some genealogy research and I've seen a few cases on the census of a mother of 55 with a kid of like 3 ... but curiously the eldest daughter of 18 lives with them
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: funny that, lol
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: and that's like 1871
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: was common
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: horny old victorian MILFD
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: but not disimilar to now
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: at least back then, it wasn't up to mr tax payer to fund them, like it is now
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: 52 year old women were not having babies in the Victorian age
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bloody kids should be shot, not be given handouts
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i know  ;-)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nvidia's latest chipset driver package is 525mb, wtf????
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: someone must of screwed up
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JollyGreen Tech: anyone else sometiems randomly disconected from aard using mushclient?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik shakes his head at JollyGreen.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JollyGreen Tech: so somehow my bigmap got moved to the right side of the screen, how do i fix this? i cant drag it cause the bar is above the tab drop down in mushclient
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: window cascade?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JollyGreen Tech: whats that?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: mushclient right?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JollyGreen Tech: yeah
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: tech windows>>cascade
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: you can type aardinit or alt w, c
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: worked?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JollyGreen Tech: no
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: if doesn't rearrange the windows?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: either of them?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: it*
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JollyGreen Tech: nope
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: windows>arrang icons
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: how about that one?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JollyGreen Tech: still having issues with this bigmap window in mushclient
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JollyGreen Tech: initaard doesnt do anything
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JollyGreen Tech: it used to be over my gameplay window so i'd just click and its go behind but now its not working out so well
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: did u try widow > arrange icons 
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JollyGreen Tech: what does that do?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: allows u to move the windows to where u want them
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JollyGreen Tech: doesnt do anything
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: try window>tile horizontally
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JollyGreen Tech: nope, that make things much worse
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: u shud be able to see all the widow drag bars and move it if not cascade them and then move it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JollyGreen Tech: yeah i can see all of them except for the big map one
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: close out ur bigmap then reinsert it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JollyGreen Tech: it just pops up in the same place
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JollyGreen Tech: c rej
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PainInThe Ashtoreth Tech: for mushclient, can someone tell me why this wouldnt fire?   ^(.*?)DISARMS you and you struggle not to drop your weapon\!$
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: anyone decent with BASH on? im trying to count the number of arguments passed for case. i have case in $($* | wc -w) but it says theres a syntax error
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: oohhh $#
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: I have a problem with a laptop running XP.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: ...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: what kind of problem?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: I boot it up, it gives the login music, then immediately runs the logout music
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Other than what you just said? ;)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: If you see Dashiell slaps Apprentice Oladon.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and then?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: boot up what? Your client?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: Anyway, I click on the name and it just goes to the background and sits
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: No, the computer.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: run in safe mode, remove startup items
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: safe mode
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: same thing in safe mode
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: Ok, so it boots and then logs off?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: except it just goes to a blank background with "SAFE MODE" at the corner
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: or does it just stall?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: It stalls.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: in safe mode or regular.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: Does this warrant reinstallation?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: ok, well no
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: There are companies that recycle electronics
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: do you have an XP cd?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: If you see Dashiell glares at Rathik.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: I do.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i would do a repair from the install disk
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: thats what I was going to say kitaro
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: Ah, riiiight. I forgot about that.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: Okay then, I'll do that.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: honestly it sounds like your registry is messed up, and a repair from the install disc should save you
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: I hope so.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: yeah
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: did you do anything like updates?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: good luck
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: I'd check your startup entries and your drivers and then use recovery console from the install disk.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: I can't check startup entries or drivers because I can't log in. I'll try the recovery console.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: and it's not my computer, it's a friend's. He said he thinks he got a virus from somewhere.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: format it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: lol recover first, if no go, there are many other steps u can try
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: if he thinks there is a virus i guaruttee there is a virus
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: If you see Dashiell peers intently at Kitaro.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: but it takes alot of time, I'd just say format it and save the time... unless there are important irreplaceable things.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: His thesis is on it.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: just the thesis?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: A bunch of pictures as well. :P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: I think
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: boot from a pe disk and copy the important docs off
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: I'm not sure, I'll try to look.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: backups can be easily replaced with users tears
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: honestly
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: If you see Dashiell . o O ( a pe disk? )
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: you could get a thumbdrive, put a bootable version of linux on it, boot linux and copy dump all the docs onto something else.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i'll get you a link for pe
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: if you really had to that is.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: ok thanks
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: nogs, I'll try recovery first
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: I'm actually going to second Kitaro's suggestion of booting from a PE...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: http://www.ubcd4win.com/
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: Run a virus scan as soon as you get it booted. Losing a thesis would suck, but hopefully you can use this to teach your friend to make a read-only backup of his thesis work at least once a week. CD-Rs or DVD-Rs are cheap in comparison to redoing months of work.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: Yes.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: lol, I upload mine to my FPS server.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: I'll make him a CD and charge him $5 for it.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: fps server?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: ah, first person shooter server!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: multitasking
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: methinks ftp ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: I mean FTP
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: thanks kitaro
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Frames per second server.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon nods quietly to herself.  What a wacko.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: one day I will focus on thing and prevent myself from sounding retarded.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: FPS File Print Server here at work.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alamantos )
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I'm missing the correct power adapter for a scanner-- is it bad if I use one with the wrong specs?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: If it's too low, it probably won't hurt it, but may not work
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: If it's too high an output, you don't want to take the chance
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: The closest one I have is the same voltage, but about 2/3s of the amps
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: 2/3 might be a bit too low to make it work.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I think it's 800mA, and it wants 1.2 A
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Would Radio Shack stock this type of thing?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: they should
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Janssen Tech: hi, does anyone know why the text im seeing in zmud is suddenly showing up with a line through the middle of them? i think they call it strike through..
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: MXP.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You forgot to close a tag.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Janssen Tech: thats the problem..thanks..is there soemthign i can enter in the command line to turn it off?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You can try #MXP <strike>stuff</strike></strike>
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Er...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You can try #MXP <strike>stuff</strike></strike>
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Damn it.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Put a < strike > in front of that, and double the </ strike>
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Janssen Tech: ah adding the closing tag behind #mxp  worked, thanks
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Killhappy Instant Tech: 281k bytes = 281 kbs yea?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: No
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Killhappy Instant Tech: how many bytes to one kb?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: kbs = kilobits per second
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: .125 bytes to a bit
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Killhappy Instant Tech: okay, I ll rephrase that.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Or better yet, 8 bits to one byte ;)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Killhappy Instant Tech: how many bytes to one kilobyte
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: 1024
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: 1000
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: 1024
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Killhappy Instant Tech: god shut it I already got a hang over from valentines day
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the long answer is that it depends
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hard drive manufacturers frequently use the metric decimal form to lie to you about how much storage you are buying
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: isnt it wonderful?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: i love my 800gb tb drive
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but KB actually stands for kibibyte which is 2^10, not 10^3. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kibibyte
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: usually
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: quoting wikipedia isnt the best
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it is when it's correct
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Menace, you have an 800gb terabyte drive?! Holy crap.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'm quoting myself. wikipedia is merely a source for more information
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Fiendish wrote wikipedia
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: lol
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: How do you get the first letter of a string in Lua?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I figured it would be var[1], but it doesn't seem to be :/
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: substr
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Iirc
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Oh right... no shortcuts :[
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: yeah, makes for less buggy code
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik boggles at Kitaro.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: But.. :(
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik sighs.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Hmmm... string.gmatch(string, "^a") ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Heh, no, substr is better
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Well, sub in Lua
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: thats a mouthful, lol
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: does anyone know of a copy of atreidess's autohunt script that is still hosted somewhere on the web?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Anyone have any experience setting up mplayer with a default volume using the config file?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: I've read the man, and Googled for about an hour, and can't figure out how.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Bahaha. Figured it out, finally.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: For anyone who's curious... af=volume=-10
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: hey
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ho
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Godsmack Tech: anyone know some Zmud programming?im trying to make a general purpose alias where i can specify "spellup <variable>" where the variable can be any name
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: yeah one sec
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Godsmack Tech: k thanks :)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: what does spellup do? O_o new to MUD's
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: just "spellingup *" for the alias and cast something %1 a few times?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: help spellup first
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: right, brb
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i think it's like   #alias {su} {cast haste %1;cast 'prot evil' %1 }
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: new to the mud, go do the academy
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: spellup is great for your own enchants, but you can't use it to cast spells on others
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Godsmack Tech: <su> is input zmud accepts? im confused i there anything which accepts names like %N or somn?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: read the help, looks like kitaro is right, doesn't look like you can cast on other players are far as I can read.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: oh btw, got the chat window thing fixed for me too, forgot to tell ya
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: To use the alias Kitaro showed, you would do su bob to spellup bob
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Godsmack Tech: k ill try it out
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: spellup on yourself would just be su (no need to put a name)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Godsmack Tech: cool it worked wonders :) thanks a lot guys
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: np   =)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone here good at finding drivers?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: What sort?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: I suspect he doesn't mean PSV
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: windows users favourite pasttime - hunt the driver
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: ranks second after squish the trojan
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's fujitsu's fault, not microsoft's, yoghurt
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: whoa when linux lacks a driver you blame linux and not the manufacturer of the device?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: yes it's all mr torvalds fault
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: uh oh.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: hunt the driver time? Which driver we searching for?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yeah which driver?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yes, yoghurt, i do
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yhogurk - now now, let's not bring everything onto the table.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: Yea Yhogurk, we can do that later *wink*
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: and i never even hinted at whose fault it was, just commented that it's a game windows users like to play :)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: need an xp video driver for a fujitsu siemens amilo d 6800
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Linux was never in the question anyway, why bring it up?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: but tnuts jumped to ms's defence even when none was needed
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: because it's a tradition
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: ok guys, seriously enough with the windows linux debate.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: only reason i'm having problems, yhogurt, is that f/s have removed the drivers from their website
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yhogurk, let it go. Linux users usually have more class ;)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: It's not a debate, it's a religious war
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: Linux is typically more stable while windows is generally more popular.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien nods at Remind Hargreaves.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: new debian is out, by the way
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: anyhow, video driver for siemens amilo d6800
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Tigernuts - video drivers for fujitsu amilo?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: What's the model of the video card? Is it Nvidia... ATI... Intel integrated?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: one sec
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: its an ATI model
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ati radeon mobility m6 ly, apparently
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: just pulled up the spec sheet for his laptop, but its kinda uncommon so to speak. Gonna find a reliable download site
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and no, the compaq driver doesn't work on it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: never trust compaq :)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Heh, Alamantos - you go ahead with that.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: really gets annoying all the links that are just trying to flog you some kind of driver scanner
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I don't know if there are open-source variants...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no, it'll need to be an ati driver
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and ati, being shit, and not as good as nvidia, don't have driver packs to suit multiple model families
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: what OS you runni Tiger
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: xp home
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nothing exciting
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: doesnt the generic ati driver pack work ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: I think ATI is good, but their mobile series is pretty shitty
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: there isn't a generic driver back
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: ok I got one I think you can give a shot, letme fetch you a link
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: hmm, ati used to have an all in one driver pack like nvidia do
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they do for their desktop boards, kitaro
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not for laptop ones tho
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: oh
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: this is getting annoying
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what is?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: when did all the driver scanners become popular?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: glad you have the same problem as i had
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: lol, that or free registration.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: dindins time, send me links by tells
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: Got it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: do you people actually trust those non-manufacturers driver download sites?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: here is a link for a .rar of your driver
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: http://www.dll-provider.com/en/download-z52416988.html
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: ant port in a storm
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: any port in a storm
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: I trust anything. If something doesnt work I format and start over. My OS hard drive is typically barebone anyways.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you need to pay to sign up for that download, alamantos
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: try again :-)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i gots VM's for suss stuff
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: "work" doesn't mean it's not trojaned, nasties can detect when they are running under a VM and lie low until they run on a real machine
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Never seen those.. then again, didn't use VMs much until I went to Linux :)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I've seen filesizes differ, so I don't really know what to get.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: ok, sure thing
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: gimme a sec, I closed my browser. =/
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I suppose you lost the original driver CD that came with the laptop, Tigernuts?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: I appologize for the slow response but finding a site that will download without having to register or anything is proving more difficult than I previously imagined.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Tigernuts: why not just scan?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien looks around and whistles innocently.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Of course, those might be bugged, too...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: I have had bad days with scanners, going updating my video drivers with beta releases etc etc
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Ah, OK.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I'm having a problem with my iPod... it won't let me restore. It claims the disc is full when in fact I just emptied it.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: Yuna, I would love to help you, but I am a Zune fan more so than Ipod.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: viola
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: http://www.fujitsu-siemens.com/support/downloads.html
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: Click the little check box saying you agree to license agreement and you should be good Tiger
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: ... Do I have to tell him?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: he'll be back after his dindins :)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: so it was on fujitsu's site after all?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: ironically, I figured I wouldnt have to go there... but really it was.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's not on fujitsu's site
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: Did you look at the link I gave you?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: was the first place i looked, oddly
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: If you still got issues letme know, I'll snoop around more for another site if it doesnt work for you.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: Yuna you got something you wanted to ask about your Ipod?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ok, i can get around the problem
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: but it means downloading the driver on my desktop and putting it on the laptop
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: which works, but still, a badly implemented website
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: I agree, but if you got a work around in mind, thumb drive or what, props to you
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: *Yay!*  Go Tigernuts!!!  Trurien cheers him on.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: good luck mate! :)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: of course, the fujitsu driver is shit and doesn't actually -work-
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: seriously?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yup
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: Great, the quest goes on.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the archive is corrupted
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: haha how good! Sometimes it could be a bad packet, rare but possible. Try downloading it again.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: I say that really out of my ass, but I am just not full swing into searching for the driver again :P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: seriously doubt it's a download problem, else it'd have failed it's crc check when uncompressing
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: Ok.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alamantos sighs...scratchs head and heads back into the void commonly known as GOOGLE.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You try looking up driverguide.com?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yep
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bloody ati laptop drivers are -always- a problem
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: god damn, I am about to sign up, download, and file transfer it to you.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: hold off a bit
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yep, fujitsu's own download fails with "cannot copy the file ati2mtag.sy_', and then many other files similar afterwards
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Cannot copy because it's in use. ;)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's not in use
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'll try extracting it elsewhere in case of programmer error
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: time for a new laptop >:)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alamantos laughs at obvious sarcasm and realizes he's the only one laughing...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yes, it was programmer - copied it to a location where the path name was shorter, and works fine
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: how do you change the font size in Zmud?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Can I still use my computer while defragmenting? Like surf the net and maybe download and save a few files? Or will that screw up the process?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: you can continue to use it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: sure
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Thanks.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: though defragging makes it run like a one-legged dog, so why bother
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: anyone know if I can revert back to Tiger's Terminal.app in lieu of using Leopard's sorry excuse for a Terminal? :(
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you can't have anything to do with me
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: that's unfortunate, I love you, Tigernuts
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bleh, you try and downlownd live messenger these days, they try and hoodwink you into some crap charity thing
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i can't be the only person who charities get on the nerves of
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: anyone know if you can use lua in mushclient to produce dialog boxes a la tcl/tk  ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: utils.msgbox( "hello" )
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: try this in immediate -- seems to work
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: thx, that gives me a strt point
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: why is it that when i have my affoff trigger disabled it still fires
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Do you have two of them?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i filtered for affoff and only have 1
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Oh clever
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: this is weird oh well
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: then is there a way to toggle all triggers like clicking on the gun?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamantos Tech: hi guys
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: hi
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hadar, yes
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamatos Tech: I feel retarded, I clicked full screen mode, and my windows are all maximized...  but I dont know how to undue it.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: in what
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: alt enther
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: right click the taskbar, select cascade windows
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamatos Tech: thats it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamatos Tech: thanks kitaro
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: np
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamatos Tech: one last thing, my stats window in MUSHclient is stuck far up left corner
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamatos Tech: the titlebar is under the tray menus*
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: initaard
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: you type initaard as a command like where you type chat stuff
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alamatos Tech: bingo thanks
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Calihan Tech: anyone remember how to rewire a cat-5 to connect two computers directly?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: google crossover diagram
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Calihan Tech: that's the word I was looking for
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i made a trigger but then when it got its key word it sent it like a thousand times what do i do to fix it?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Don't bot, botting is bad.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: first disable the tigger
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Is this MUSHclient?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: trigger
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: not botting. i told it to report my stats when i got a level
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i did. and yes its mush
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: and what was the trigger phrase?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: level
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: thats all it needed
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: and the response? score?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: turn off "trigger on trigger"
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: where is that at?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: are you using zmud ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: i think a better trigger phrase would be "You raise a level! *"
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: oh i see mush client
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: you don't want it to trigger everytime someone just mentions the word
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: ok but the phrase wasnt the problem just the output
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: that'll fix the output too i think
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: problem is that somewhere in your output is the word level and it triggers again
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: kirua is right, you need a more unique trigger phrase
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: lol ok yeah my out put was also gt level raises
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: try "You raise a level! *"
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: umm   "more unique"   --->  shoot me now
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: You raise a level! You are now level %d.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: is there a way of making something a link without using a href in zmud?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: No.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Well, yeah, I suppose.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: #MXP < send '#URL link'>link< /send>, but that's rather gay.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Without the leading spaces.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Hell, just trigger any links and use #URL %1
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i was trying to link up mobs so i can click them to attack rather then type it out
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: lol sound like hard work
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: also names of mobs arent always thier keywords
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: k g    works for me
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: mobs of my choice like ones i can kill at certain levels
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Hadar, that'll require more than just basic coding...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: is there a way to strip out channel tags without also killing color? (zmud)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: yes
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: i suppose, you can do anything with zmud
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Crieus )  i'm trying to use #psub... it's not working so well
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: try :   tags channels off
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: #regex {^\{chan ch=(~[^~}~]+)\}} {#SUBSTITUTE {}}
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: thx hadar... i'll give that a try
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: is there some special way to get laptop keys back onto the keyboard? my damn alt button just fell off
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: use superglue
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: they just clip back in,unless the clip is broken
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: woot
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: was about to freak out :P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: got it back on after studying it for a minute :P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: i've often wondered how that worked because i've often noticed that sometimes i start to move my finger in the direction of the next key before i've completely let go of the previous key and i catch another key pretty well and am like "oh crap got lucky that time" lol
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: where can i get the hook up with your mother app for my iphone?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: apple.com yo
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: google knows all
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: they says therse an app for everythinnng
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: mmm got to love an external powered by usb :P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: extern drive ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: sorta its an old hd in a ide to usb case
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i love them, esp the usb powered little ones
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: lol ya it only worked one time on my computer and has not worked sense
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Calihan Tech: is it just me? mininova.org loads other pages?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: didn't used to...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: using firefox ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: What do you mean? Ads?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Calihan Tech: IE
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Calihan nods at Rathik.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: you are prob spyware infected
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Firefox. Only.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: firefox + adblock plus ... there is no subsitute
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Calihan Tech: ...McAfee isn't doing its job!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik nods at Kitaro.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i found the best RSS reader ever last week too  =)   Feed sidebar for firefox
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Calihan Tech: anyone use apple's safari?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i used it on an apple, i dont use mac os much tho
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: I have a small farm of computers that does work for the foldingome project.  Unfortunately, some of the files that get returned to the project are rather large (one was 22MB) and it lags up my whole network when one of the computers is sending results - our upstream bandwidth is about 80k/s.  What are recommended ways to throttle bandwidth on Linux boxes?  I've heard of 'trickle' and a few other applications, but I'm wondering if there's a setting I can tweak directoy for the network interface, or even on the router/modem.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: directly*
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: many of the newer modem/routers have rudimentary traffic shaping, you'll just have to check the manual
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: Alrighty, thanks
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: I do believe I've found the answer to my bandwidth throttling question - the wondershaper script, for those that may be wondering :)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: anyone using the latest ubuntu release?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i use latest  xubuntu
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: just wondering if the sound quality is still f'd up
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i run it in a VM so sound is not an issue
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i loaded a script from mushclient.com and its not working it gives me this complicated error message
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: in theory yes - but I don't know how in most clients
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: ok lol
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: how do i set up a  trigger to record how much damage i deal and recieve per battle also how do i set it to record experience per hour
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: atrei has some scripts like that on zmud
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: atris website is down
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i use mush and im having problems figuring out whet to do with a scriot i dont know what im doing and i cant get it to work
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: well, zmud and mush are different
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i know this
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: wifi connection connects, gets assigned an ip, but then can't ping anything, including the router, any ideas?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what ip does it get?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 192.168.0.4
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: stop mudding from the bathroom
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: user error
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: Can anything else on that wireless connect?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yep
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<3 DJ Matty Tech: When did Aard get its own client?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it didn't
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: a while ago
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: few months back it made plugins for MUSH
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: well its just a modified client not technically its own
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<3 DJ Matty Tech: But it has been up for just a few months?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the only reason imo to download the aardwolf mushclient package is to get the bigmap plugin that you can't find in the forum
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: Since last summer, I think.  I know it was around in September when my old computer died.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: few months...half a year...same thing :)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<3 DJ Matty Tech: Yeah, I was going to say: because I'm on a new computer it seems like a good client to go with.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: odd, plug it in a different usb port, works fine
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: a newer version of mushclient from mushclient.com is better
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: few implies 3 or 4 half a year is 6 so no ot the same thing lol
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: it has lotsa random crap in it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the aardwolf package has an old version in it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: I didn't like it... missed my speedwalks and aliases. 
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<3 DJ Matty Tech: What's the newer mushclient have?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the ability to use miniwindow plugins
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: But then I've been using ZMud since 1998, so I'm ell trained. ;-)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<3 DJ Matty Tech: Yuudoku, you didn't like the new mushclient?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<3 DJ Matty Tech: Yeah, I used Zmud in the past, and I've used Portal a great deal.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: No, not really, not as someone who's been on the MUD for a long time.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: speedwalks are built into the mud now
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: Some speedwalks.  Not the fastest ones, with shortcuts, that I've put together for some areas.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: they all get you to the same place
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: Speed counts in GQ's. ;-)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<3 DJ Matty Tech: Well, thanks for the info guys. I think I'm going to start a new character, because I haven't been on in so long!!!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish shrugs helplessly.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I wouldn't start over just because of that, matty
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<3 DJ Matty Tech: I know...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<3 DJ Matty Tech: I wish I could remort once more though..
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<3 DJ Matty Tech: But I'd have to recrete my spellup macro.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: there is a spellup command in aardwolf
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<3 DJ Matty Tech: Eh, really?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: rudimentary spellups are built into the mud. also there's a good plugin for it on mushclient.com
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: yeah it is....spellup
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: help spellup
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<3 DJ Matty Tech: Hahahaha, wow. Seems like there is a lot of useful new stuff - guess I won't create another character.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: a new vewrsion of TinTin  v1.99  is advertised (by Scandum) on TMS forum -- look at the note when you vote
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<3 DJ Matty Tech: Hey, that spellup command is great.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: big deal. tintin sucks
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: nuh uh!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: look at and read the note and tell tech whether the new version is yet sucky
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: TinTin is open source ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: ja
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: is MushClient open source ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: ja
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: 6.stu
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: woops
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Freeware.  Don't think it's open source.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mushclient is open source
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and speaking of which
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there's a new version of mushclient
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: 4.38 is now available
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=9242
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: is there a program that would sweep my computer and remove any files the ere created by another user?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: err
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: You mean like all the Windows files?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: like if someone created a word document that i have no use for
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: Just search for *.doc 
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: i was thinking of something more automatic like kinko's has.  every so often something sweeps the computer and removes new files
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<3 DJ Matty Tech: Hmm, I just downloaded the Aard muschlient, seems pretty useful once you get used to it.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<3 DJ Matty Tech: it is strange though, because I've spent so much time learning how to 'read the mud' and this client kind of separates it out so you don't have to.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: qr
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: anyone know how to adjust the ansi settings in zmud? im getting no color just a bunch of @s all over the screen
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: quit and reopen
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there's no setting that will do that
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: unless you have an ansi trigger thats firing wildly 
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: no triggers....
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: type rawcolors
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: See if that helps
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish goes, "Heh."
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'd forgotten about that command
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: rawcolors fixed it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: thanks so much i had this problem for days...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: yay! normal aardwolf again!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: how do i permanently turn the echo of chats off for mushclient?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: edit the plugin and look for the line "echo = true" and change to "echo = false"
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: thanks
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: oh god, "our greenest macbook ever"
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: dodgiest advert ever?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I dunno, is it white like the others?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nogs, looks identical
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: should've been "our biggest rip off ever"
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: anyone willing to give me some clues on how to play lasertag better?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: bot
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Don't let your charges go below 160
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: aliases
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: i use 6 aliases
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Well, don't shoot when they're below 160
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: I just use ss for shoot south.. se shoot east.. etc
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: yeah thats what im using
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: seems like everyone kills me much faster though
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Just pay attention to your charges, the more charges you have the more accurate you are
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: is there any way to shoot someone if they are in the same room as the decoy?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: Who here knows how to build an area?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Muesli Tech: I do..
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: I used to build w/OLC + mobprogs :p
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: Can I give you guys designs so that you can create it?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: Lasher actually just posted a note on mudinfo I believe about making an area. If you can do descriptions/design, somebody else can do the technical aspects
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dengine Tech: HI
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: hi Dengine
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dengine Tech: So...what do I do when my laptop completely falls apart?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: Duct tape.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: falls apart? like how?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: stick it together with superglue
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: u throw it away and buy a new one
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PainInThe Ashtoreth Tech: second the duct tape.  superglue may void your warranty
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: Bad thing is, I actually have electrical tape holding my battery in right now :P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dengine Tech: The tape is a very good idea...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PainInThe Ashtoreth Tech: although sticking your fingers together may make you forget about your laptop for a while
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: voiding the warranty is probably the least of his worries :)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dengine Tech: It can't compromise the aesthetic integrety of the casing, as the casing was hideous before.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: or find some slightly larger screws the same length that will cut new larger grooves...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dengine Tech: Also a good idea.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: and hope that the larger longer screws don't damage anything else
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: could also go with stickers.. I've seen some held together with a layer of bumper stickers and such...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dengine tries tape
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: that's why you find ones that are the same length, just a bit larger diameter
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dengine performs minor surgery
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: most screws on a laptop won't use tapered threads so it's going to be real difficult to force a larger screw in
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dengine Tech: The split is right on the hinge, too, so even if I get it back together it won't hold when I try and close i.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: it may take a tapered thread to get a new larger hole create, but then using the non-tapered screws to do the actual job will be critical.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: use a tap and die set
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dengine Tech: You have officially surpassed my comprehension of things mechanical
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Why not just make a warranty claim if it's coming apart?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: that works better, but a lot of people don't have them on hand...so another screw is a viable option for that.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dengine Tech: I think the warranty expired like yesterday
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: a tapered thread is a tap
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I wouldn't force a larger screw into the hole... you could crack the plastic
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Just take it to a repair shop or something
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dengine Tech: Good idea.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: what's the make of this laptop then? that's some precision engineering - breaks just after end of warranty :)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dengine Tech: Del
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dengine Tech: l
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: Starling, the screw usually goes through the plastic and into a threaded hole in the metal chassis. Not likely to crack the plastic... I've torn four laptops apart in the last three weeks, because my friends know I'll fix them right.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I'd still take it to a competent repair shop rather than attempt a half-ass repair
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dengine Tech: Never buying an american computer again.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lacrimosa hates when people assume that other players don't know what they're talking about and characterize their work as half-assed. She's had more laptops apart and repaired or upgraded them in the last two weeks than most people will own in fifteen years.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if the computer is secondhand, at an extremely cheap price, and works, then American may be okay
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dengine Tech: Oh god I started a fight.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: what brand is it, Dengine?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dengine Tech: I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry, here, have cookies!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dengine Tech: It's a Dell and it's not a big deal, really, I was gonna get a mac next year anyway...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: I've had 5 Dells apart in the last two weeks. You'll be fine just getting larger screws into it.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dengine Tech: Ok, I'll hunt some down!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: hmmm... if i just closed my mushclient without qutting properly, after finishing a quest yesterday, why would my quest timer be at 30?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: For reference, HP/Compaq tend to use fewer proprietary parts than Dell and are therefore easier to repair and upgrade.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Dell designs the fall-apart laptops for a specific niche
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: woohoo i have a campaq
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dengine Tech: It's not even a good laptop otherwise. It's huge and heavy.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PainInThe Ashtoreth Tech: quest time only ticks down when you are online
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: ticks down faster when there is a crash and you relog fast
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: what model? I've got an old Inspiron that had a similar issue with the plastic on the hinge.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dengine Tech: ...it's green
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dengine Tech: Inspiron 1525
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: i thought i'd just be left afk if i close the mushclient
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: give me a minute and I'll find you a link to the technician's disassembly instructions that'll give you a step-by-step to get down to the inside so you can just expand holes in the metal chassis. You'll need a small flat screwdriver and a small Phillips.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ifBSjk3upePiQ3izyfpx4TEb0bzgD96CLEHG1 theres an app for everything
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: Who wants a design of a cool area from me, then build it?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: Who wants a design of a cool area from me, then build it?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: lol
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: do u have room desripts>
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: I will make one on the art channel
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: Then tell you the enemies
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: why not just hang on to the idea, apply for builder later and make it yourself?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: Because, I do not know how to build areas
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i was just asking cuz i dont know what to do
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I like okra
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: Jello.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: How do you apply?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: DO you have to do a LOT of stuff?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: Or learn how to program?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: How do I apply?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: try help builder
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: Thanks
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: help build, probably. My understanding is that it takes a lot of time to build, and the long parts are not from working with the tools, but actually coming up with all of the descriptions and making something that makes sense.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: that's very true, Rathik
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: there are copius amounts of documention available on www.aardwolf.com and from other builders too
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: generally, you want to use the documentation though... otherwise people might as well do the work for you
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: Raise you hand if you can build areas.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus raises his hand.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: raise
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shiruyumi Tech: I built a model house once..
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hellfiend raises his hand.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: oops....i lied
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: i build the mess around my area, counts no?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Still no one is going to give you a "10 minute tutorial" on how to build.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: Charneus, I will send you a design for an area, and will you please make it for 1000000 gold.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: Deal?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: For all the work I'd put into it? It's not an easy task. Make it 200 tps, and I might consider it.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: lol at the glod
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: maybe if you offered trivia points people would do it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: 1 tp, deal or no?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Even then, probably not.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hellfiend laughs out loud.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Hell no.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: Who will do it fo a tp?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: lol
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hellfiend falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Do you even realize how much WORK is involved in making the areas?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: rofl
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: ooo aard wolf deal or no deal...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: 200tp and i'll still have to consider
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: 2 tps, take it or leave it.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: leave
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Dimm, you might be interested in reading the latest note on mudinfo
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: ALl i can afford
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Oh no! My final chance? Damn... uh...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Here's my quick tutorial on how to build.  Copy and past 'mage' into every mob's class field.  That's pretty much all you need to do.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I'll take it, but I still won't build for you.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hellfiend laughs out loud at Alt. Helpa Charneus.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: I am a 9 year old and I just want to build!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: Please!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: If you want the area, why don't you read general/mudinfo and become a builder yourself?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: be nice to the 9 yr old char
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: You have to be 21 to build, sorry
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The gods fall down laughing at Dimm's request for mercy.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: is that true starling
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: WHAT!?!?!?!?!?!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dimm squints and holds two fingers up, saying 'I'm crushing your heads!'
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: no he bs
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dimm cries his eyes out and starts getting violent.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: No, but you have to possess the intelligence to code, the creativity to create rooms, and the maturity to not make it all 'lolz d00dz i R rox j00!'
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: No personal attacks please
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: Please! Can somebody please teach me?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: No one can teach you. READ about it.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: wasnt a personal attack it was a factual statement
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: I hate reading!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Starling: No personal attack involved at all. :P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Then you don't belong here.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Hmm, true
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: I hardlyunderstand the help!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: I only hate reading the help!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Then stop whining about coding.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: They are too long and people keep messing up them!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Or building.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dfury whines pathetically about everything.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus comforts Dfury.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dimm bursts into tears.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dimm bursts into tears.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dimm bursts into tears.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dimm bursts into tears.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dimm bursts into tears.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: No spamming please.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Please don't spam us.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: just think about it. whats the point of having you area build by someone else, and whats the point in building something thats someone elses idea
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It is against the rules to spam any channel by way of conversation, socials, or idiocy.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hellfiend 's miasma DOES UNIMAGINABLE THINGS TO  Dimm [127321639]
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: can we make a rule where it will be illegal to quote a rule a billion times?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: No.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: you might as well ask someone to play aardwolf for you, and just report the levels from time to time
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Kirua: If I got paid enough for it, I'd consider it. I'm not about to put forth time and effort to come up with all the descriptions, mprogs, and whatever else.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: as soon as people stop breaking it A BILLION times
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: that would put you out of things to do for sure :-p
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dimm falls to the ground and screams 'I AM SORRY GRAMMY!!!!! I will never furfill my dreams!!!!!!!!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Honestly, I think he's just trolling us.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: THese people are sicotic!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: What is 'sicotic' ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: i dont think thats a word
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Please edumacate me?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: (Then again, so am I)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shiruyumi Tech: He wants to make an area but can't spell psychotic?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: It means you can't spell, starling
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Oh snap!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: psychotic, psychotic
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: It's a [sic]ness.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: yes gonna use WORD
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I think Sicotic is the name of the species in his area
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: sicotic, you keep using that words, i do not thinks it means what you think it does....
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: aite aite take it easy.. coding CAN be a nightmare
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: So can stupidity.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shiruyumi Tech: Can? It is.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: but dimm you HAVE to learn how to build it yourself.. else there is no way to do it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: stupidity is always a nightmare
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I was trying to be nice.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: he is gone
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: he is gone
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: spammer
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dfury grins evilly.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Global Menace pats Dfury on his head.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: He's probably crying to his mommy.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: or he got fed up of people giving him hard time for no reason
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: No reason?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Excuse me, but...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Starling falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: just because someone 'does not get it' is not a reason to bust their chops.. although you could
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: offering 1000000 gold for someone to level me till the last exp of tier9 (i'll do the last hit myself)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Dfury: We weren't giving him a hard time. He doesn't like to listen. I've dealt with him before. And his pitiful offers for me to build an area he thought of was just... yeah.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: And we did.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: wait, i'll offer 1 tp!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Kirua: Is that a 'take it or leave it' offer?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: patience is a virtue
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Dfury: Have you ever dealt with him, personally, one on one?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: patience is not a virtue patience is an art
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: nope
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: please preeeety pleaxe x 20?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I have a high patience factor, but even that can run out.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: patience is only applicable when its going to progress the situation.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: agreed
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hellfiend nods at Global Menace.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: or not, patience is bearing the wait before you know progress comes
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: double nod 
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: same thing.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: slight difference
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: in any case i didn't think he was 'hopeless'.. at least he posesses curiosity and will to annoy everyone to get what he wants
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: to bad he cant find a productive way to get help
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: sometimes in life that is the only what to get your goal short of a weapon tho
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: No, he can't. He already said he hates reading help files.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: who doesnt?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: That's his downfall. Don't make it ours. At least attempt to read them, and then if you have questions, we can answer them.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: Patience: (1) Girl's Name, (2) Act of last resort for people without advance or T9 friends. 
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: helpfiles is like an ancient language that was written once and forgotten
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: They're updated quite a bit.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It's on wiki. It's on Aardwolf.com. It's not hard to read them.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: helpfiles are updated every reboot actually, and as errors in them are pointed out.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: perhaps.. but i meant it in terms of their ease of understanding to a 'regular' person
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It'd be one thing if the builder help files were created one time, then never looked at again.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: i really like the ingame help files here, but the wiki seems sparse...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: thankfully I've never met the mythological average person.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: RTFM?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: everyone is their own unique kind of weird.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Wiki is new at being updated, though. We now have an active Imm who is busting her ass to get it all situated.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Not to mention, more players are contributing to the wiki, too.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: rtfm doesnt work for an average bear
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: which is rather disappointing, busting her ass herself when I keep offering to help.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: yup, it's a lot of effort put in, but will take time i guess
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: did they not learn to read?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: hey isnt that swearing on a public channel charneus? lol
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: read the friggin manual?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: 'ass' is perfectly acceptable. It is used in modern TV, on broadcast, and is not censored by the FCC in any way.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It's allowed under the PG-13 rule.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: texch is labelled as xrated
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: No, it's not, Dfury.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: RTFM doesnt neccesarily mean read and understand, but if you ask questions about the manual generally people are MORE then happy to answer those
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Tech is nocurse.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: really?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: lol kinda like piss and bitch because both can be said on tv with pg-13 rating?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Type 'nocurse' then toggle the channel.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Yep.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: my bad
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Just don't go hog wild and use it every sentence 'just because you can.'
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: you can't teach common sense unfortunately
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods at Global Menace.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: yes but you can auction it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: so i cud hypothetically say 'charneus u bitch go piss on your ass' and except fot it being borderline personal attack it wud be allowed
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: yeah it wud
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: ...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: No, that is a direct personal attack and isn't allowed.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: ya it wud*
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: how the $)%( can you spell hypothetically but not could?!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: come on menace, disappointing
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Global Menace pouts. 
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Jademarie got in trouble for calling Lemon a bitch on curse channel. ;)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: good thing it was hy[othetical huh? *wink*
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: there, there ol' chap
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Argot pats Global Menace on his head.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Argot giggles at Razor's actions.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Global Menace beams a smile at Razor.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: lol laziness kicked in
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: it didn't last long.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Not to mention, Hellfiend, while you /could/ say that, it'd be excessive use of it, and would be subject to Imm descretion. ;)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: maybe he likes it short and .... well just short?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: well anyword can be up to the discretion of the recipient
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: your name offends me.  *nod self*
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Of course. But don't piss off an Imm. If an Imm says don't use it, then don't use it.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Yeah, I'm offended by anything that has 'Hell' in it. ;)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: im sure u could make a valid claim to that and i would be forced to change it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: we need a semantics channel
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: i think its called gossip?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: "assbleedingdetails" channel
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hellfiend looks at Scars, jaw hanging around his knees.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: She was pregnant. Had our baby January 2nd. :P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Mis.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: good one
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dfury nods at Alt. Helpa Charneus.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: are you trying to throw tech into a state of unrest charneus?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: it was actually my baby but dont tell him that..*wink*
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Please don't confuse yourself with someone I find attractive. You're demeaning my wife, and I don't like that.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: all right people stop yapping go CP, quest or something
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: o wow i have a feeling i just pissed of a good man
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus smacks Dfury out of his boots with a sign reading "NO !!"
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ologn Tech: wait... there's a game here?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ologn Tech: I thought this was IRC :(
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: yeah, its called tech channel
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hellfiend mourns the loss of his friend charneus
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: oh you silly Daoine
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radial Tech: when I introduced my wife to muds for the first time, (this one in fact) she surprisingly said to me Oh it's like IRC
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: irc with stats
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hellfiend falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: When I turn my skillgains and spellups tags off, it makes the next line of output display to the right of my prompt instead of below it.. anyone know what might cause this?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: this isn't IRC? .......:(
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ologn Tech: apparently, argot.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Strange? Why is Scars running in a circle, flapping his arms and quacking.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Argot sighs at the sight of Ologn.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Well, in IRC, you can bot. Here, you can't. You make the call. ;)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hellfiend slaps Scars.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: What? I am a bot!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dfury is NOT using a bot, merely a very handy *beep* script!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ologn Tech: IRC is a much better game but aardwolf has better people to talkt o
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Argot rapidly nods twice at Ologn, in complete agreement.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus SMACKS Ologn upside the head, wonder what he did.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Impotent Inicus peers around himself intently.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: get off my channel
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: IRC's gameplay is highly dynamic and adventurous
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: Aardwolf sucks, let's all go play IRC.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Agreed.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dfury nods at Razor.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Impotent Inicus bursts into tears.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: panzer doesn't talk on here
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: /me runs off to IRC.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Does IRC have tiers?  If not, great, tiers are ruining this game.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Sorry to break your little chat about IRC.. but can anyone help me?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: /me joins Argot! lolz!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: /join #Aardwolf
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: what the *beep* is IRC?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: /join #RL
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: the original internet chat room.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Internet Relay Chat.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Inicus, what?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: oooo
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: nublet.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: old fart
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: When I turn my skillgains and spellups tags off, it makes the next line of output display to the right of my prompt instead of below it.. anyone know what might cause this?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You don't have a %c at the end of your prompt.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: when i was your newbie-ness, all we had was dial up
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: But why would turning the tags on, make that not happen
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: If you put %c at the end, all commands/mud lines will follow on the next line.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ologn Tech: dialup!! :D I miss it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: before AOL introduced perpetual September.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: yup you probably have gray hair and walk with a walker :-p
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ologn Tech: like your computer was singing a terrible song to end the world every time you wanted to look at porn
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Were the tags being put the same line as your prompt instead?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Everything was put on the same line as my prompt when turned off, when turned on.. everything goes below
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Even the tags
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: i have a walker to beat you with dfury :)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Not sure.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: The tags may be prefaced with it's own CR then.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: That should only happen when a spellup wears on, or is cast though?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Er, wears off
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: please dont beat me with it.. who knows what else you beat it with
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: ewwww
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Inicus: It wouldn't matter, though. Unless some tags have the CR prefacing it and others don't. Other than that, I don't know what would cause it.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: grr 1.5 hours till my debian 5 netinst iso finishes DL
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: gotta love slow DLs...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: high res pr0n?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: im throttling torrent bandwidth so i can do other stuff, lol
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: no, Kitaro was grumbling about his debian iso having another 1.5 hrs to go
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: when buying a hosting plan through godaddy.com, will using a "windows" hosting plan vs. a "linus" hosting plan mean any difference?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: or is it straight forward that if i have windows, i can only use windows, etc?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: depends on what you desire for your webserver
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: what youre going to program with
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: is the new kde as awesome as people keep telling me it is
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: prob not
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: kde is a resource pig, just like windows, i use xfce
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: i like gnome
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: but i keep being told to try the new kde
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: gnome is a bit too 'cobbled together' for my liking
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carancho Tech: does some one have an idea why i can4t make aliases work on MUSH?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Anyone knows which package to download to enable the man pages for C commands in Ubuntu?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: any ideas how to make zmud tell me my password?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: pcap it?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: pcap?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: packet capture
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i know there's an easier way
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: where's the challenge in the easier way?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Remind Hargreaves snickers softly.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: true, but i've been setting up my new linux box for two days now
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Why use a bike when you can learn to unicyle?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so i'd like to do something simple now :)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien flashes a mischievous grin at Seltsimees Dagnir.  Hmm. is it time to run and hide?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: You have a Linux box... and you want to put zMud on it why? :P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i don't
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: I got the idea he's trying to get his password off the zmud so he can use something else on linux
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i need zmud to tell me my password so i can stop using it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Ah, right.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Well, there is an easy way...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and i thought i could remember all these 14 digit random passwords :P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Create a new character, send a note to lasher saying you forgot your password :P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: But set your email first.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: there was a way to unmask it using zmud settings
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: there are password unmasking programs for windows, maybe they'll be of some use?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: I bet I know what it is!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: ********
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien claps at If you see Dashiell's actions.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: OMG I can't believe you just sent my password to the mud :(
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nah, it's **************
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: delete dagnir **************
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: delete dagnir **************
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Hm.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: zmud is too damn sluggish in a virtual machine
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i used to run it on wine, but i don't have the magic settings any more. worked fine
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Well I've been googling in the background for you, and that's an exercise in futility
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Shame you can't do something simple like copy and paste it to notepad for magical reveal
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: whats the syntax to make a trigger that matches anything in a string list? both ariablename and {ariablename} don't work
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: both ariablename and {ariablename} don't work
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: {ist} should work..
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: {ist} rather
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: heh, with the at sign anyway 
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: both {alist} and alist aren't workign for me for some odd reason
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: (a)list and {(a)list}
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: anyone familiar with dreamweaver ftp uploading?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: why is it that when i upload files to my hosted website, they only show up as a directory on it doesnt load the actual index.php or index.html?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: I think you might have a PEBKAC error.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: If you see Dashiell nogs at himself, he must be getting freaky!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: you been waiting to say that one all day, haven't you:P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: Yes.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A winner is If you see Dashiell!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: is there a command to update the map window without moving in MUSH?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: map
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: thanks :)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daniiel Tech: i am trying to find out if i can get zmud to play a sound on a trigger (quest time, more exactly), anyone know if/how to do this ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miquiz Tetzahuitl Tech: with #beep
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miquiz Tetzahuitl Tech: that's the easy way, or you can use a command that will play a specific file, i forget which one it is...check the helps
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: #play
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miquiz Tetzahuitl Tech: i just use #beep then change which file #beep plays in the options
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miquiz Tetzahuitl Tech: yeah that
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daniiel Tech: yay, that works! thanks both!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daniiel Tech: with play, work with .wav files ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miquiz Tetzahuitl Tech: both do, nod
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daniiel Tech: awesome, thanks again
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: is there a sound option for MUSH?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: probably
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: lua can make system calls
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: a bios removal cd i downloaded doesn't work. I shouldn't sound surprisd
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: dunno why people peddle this crap
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: a what?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: bios removal?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: even if that were possible, it would render your computer unusable
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bios password removal
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oh
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Calihan Tech: what happens if you remove the battery for an extended time?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nothing
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what kind of computer is it?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: hp pavilion ze4537WM laptop
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Calihan Tech: my laptop bios has a checksum error and I dont have anyway to flash
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: a laptop with fingerprint detection?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Calihan Tech: nope
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: well this is why people shouldn't set passwords that they're going to forget
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nah, tis 2003 vintage
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i think new most new laptops have somekind of a security chip for that
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: there is no point in having an un-resettable bios password
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eziah Tech: anyone can help me with pueblo?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Calihan Tech: are there viruses that can affect bios?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: of course there is
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I want my laptop to be useless to anyone who steals it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: unless you have hard disk encryption, they can still get to your data, so from a data security pov it's futile
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'm pretty sure that thinkpads do something funny with the hard drive
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they have the option for a boot password, fiendish
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but either way. it's enough for me that if I'm going to have my laptop stolen I should at least cause the thief inconvenience and loss of effort
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i wouldn't normally complain, but HP won't reset it either
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: My laptop has a C-4 charge in it.  BIOS password failure = detonation.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it seems that thinkpads do indeed have harddrive passwords. that's probably what I have set
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: http://xkcd.com/538/
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dispel Majic P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'm not worried about the government
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: just another reason to avoid HP, really
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I just don't want someone making money off my home movies without giving me a cut
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so hp are crap, compaq are crap, dell are crap, apple are overpriced, spot the odd one out
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hp = compaq
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: we know
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: self built
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ibm are crap, too
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: apple laptops are actually quite nice if you can get past the problem of the front edge being sharp like daggers
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: ibm = lenovo
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: my one complaint about my powerbook compared to my thinkpad
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and the fact that they're apples
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I like Macs
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: fiendish thats the built in self defence model
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I like the Mac OS
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I like the design (other than the sharp front edge)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: I still don't want to pay the extra money for a mac. I like Windows better.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: do they still use those annoying slot-load drives?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I like that I can easily boot into mac os AND windows without weirdo hacks
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I like slot loading drives
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: Yes
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: dude dimm is back asking ppl to design areas for him
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: heh
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: except you can't use minicds or minidvd's in em
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: so?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: I have good ideas.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so design your own area, dimm
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: so build it urself
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: I know a good place to creat
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't have any mini cds or dvds
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: How?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: learn
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: read "help build"
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: How do I build it?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: I hate reading helpfiles!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: tough
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: 'i dont like reading help files, im only 9'
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: It is just IMPOSSIBLE FOR ME!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: nothing is IMPOSSIBLE
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Not this again.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: plenty of things are impossible. just not that.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: unpossible ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: I am 9, hate the helpfiles, only that. in the game (other than PK)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Go to bed, junior.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: Dude, it is 604 pm
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: haven't been able to find a bios password hardware circumvention for this lappie, either
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: wel if u r unwilling to read help files y wud u expect help from others
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dimm bursts into tears.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dimm bursts into tears.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: rtfm
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I didn't ask for any lip, junior, now off to bed.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: starling  be nice
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I am nice :)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: not to me starling *sniffles*
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dimm says cryingly, "I... will try!"
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Starling spanks Hellfiend playfully.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: yay debian5 cd finally finished download
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: ima try out LXDE desktop, never seen that before
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: Then, what imm should I write to?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: all of them ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: ll of them if u think it wil help
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: and make sure to remind them if you dont get a respone every 10 mins
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: I set up a note, please read it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: Ya like?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Read 'help newhelp' and 'help newbie', Dimm.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: Why?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I think you could benefit from them.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: prevents silly questions....sometimes
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: heh
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'm not even sure what that note is saying
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: Whaddya mean?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: War of the WorOrORdrodlrd!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: The mud likes to put silly things itself
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: War of the Worlds
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and is that supposed to be a map?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: Yes
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: of what?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: Small one though
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: It is war of the worlds
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: Where you can and can't walk
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: is it?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyhe Tech: Dimm how old are you?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: 9
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that's not important
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: you get very clever 9 year olds these days
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Sometimes
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Dimm
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: Yes?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Look on the builders site
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: I have
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: There's a list of area themes that aren't allowed.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: Did not help
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: look longer
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: Where?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Dimm, please tell me that note is a joke of some sort.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: Nope
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I like the idea. I just don't think it's a well thought out plan for building.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: Should I make it bigger?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you can do a few things. put more details into your plan and don't name it "war of the worlds"
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: DUde, I am 9!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't care how old you are
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyhe Tech: I also like the idea Dimm
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: Make it bigger? Make more mobs?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: Make what they hold?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: calling it "war of the worlds" will make it get rejected just because of the name
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: Then, what is a good name? Wait!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: Bore of the Worlds
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Just read help builder, it'll tell you all you need to know ;)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Unless you research copyright law adequately to discover who currently owns the copyright of Orwell's estate
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: What about star wars?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: And take a look at this page
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/builders/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=58
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: War of the World is less likely to a copyright violation than the Star Wars area
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: we have not followed that rule very well in the past
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: tons of areas are based on copyrighted works
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: Work is being done to remove those areas as far as I know anyway
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: slowly
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that doesn't negate the fact that they went in after the rule was in place
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: many of them, anyway
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: Yeah, well, also some things aren't as well known by the imms so they slip through
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: I know I don't know most of the areas based off of books on the mud
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: google does
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't believe that personal lack of knowledge is really a viable excuse
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: This is probably true
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: Here is another one, please enjoy ChickenFat Joe.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Felt coughs loudly.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hehe
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: Ya like?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I do, actually
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but that note doesn't belong on the tech board
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: Think you can make it?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: probably, but I won't
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't have the time or dedication to build a new area these days
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: Please!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: or the creativity
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The gods fall down laughing at Dimm's request for mercy.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dimm bursts into tears.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dimm bursts into tears.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it sounds like you enjoy writing though. Lasher did recently put out a call for creative people to help building new areas
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Please quit this game
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: It was hard to make
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The gods fall down laughing at Dimm's request for mercy.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dimm bursts into tears.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: why not put a personal board note to "imm" saying that you want to help write for areas?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: you should too starling :-)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: WHat if I get an imm to read it?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Turning off tech until Dimm goes to bed
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: k
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Dimm, you still need to follow the instructions
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: Only 7 where I am, go to bed at 10
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: he's persistent ..  I like it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: 10 pm at the age of 9?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: Let me call an imm
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Stop feeding the troll.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Go fetch your parents so I can tell them what bad parents they are
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: What? i am one of the youngest, yet smartest, in my class
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Being precocious has nothing to do with the quality of their parenting
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: keep it up dimm.. eventually you may annoy one of them into surrender
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: Hooray!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: I know how to get an imm
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Did you read a helpfile?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raar Tech: any blackberry pros here?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kitaro shows his approval by clapping his hands together.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: I cannot contact them, so I will start spamming, and they will drag me in the special room, AND BOOM! Got an imm!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raar Tech: can you set an individual calendar entry to ring when the default is set to vibrate?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: ack.. thats not a smart way to conjure an imm
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Or maybe they'll just do what I do to my nephew when he starts shouting
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimm Tech: In english?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: l
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: i think you just silenced yourself
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: Dimm, how old are you again?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: i'm 12
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: no, 14
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: im 16
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: wait i forgot..
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Your age doesn't matter so long as you behave reasonably
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i usually do...dont i?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dfury puts his thumb on his mouth and goes 'GU-GU GA-GA!!'
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: I would say you do
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobahlu Tech: Question for you guys, Might be a bug I just stumbled on
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ok
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobahlu Tech: In the Mystical shop in Tao, tried to buy the Eyes of elightenment and for some reason it will not sell it, says I cannot buy it but I pass all the requirements shown
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: we call them "undocumented features" here
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobahlu Tech: Hehe
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what are the requirements shown?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobahlu Tech: Unique, invis, hum, magic, burn-proof, v3
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: how are those requirements?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: wtf thos arent requirements
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobahlu Tech: req=flags
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: you can't buy stuff too high a level
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: those are not requirements
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: ironicly those flags are features of the item
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the only requirements for buying something that you can see are weight, money, and level.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and item slots
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobahlu Tech: I know that silly, I ment that no evil, no good and the such are under the flag section as well
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: those aren't requirements for purchase
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: flags on the item don't affect purchasing
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobahlu Tech: and the level to purchase it is 101 if I read this correctly
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so? what does the shopkeeper tell you?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobahlu Tech: Ok, now thats just creepy. It will sell them to me now
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hehe
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobahlu Tech: *smacks head*
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobahlu Tech: -begins swearing at himself as he kicks his invis tag around the room-
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: I hate it when you do something 'easy' like try to install some software, but then find you've got about 20 other 'easy' steps to perform first
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlos Tech: how would i put the " sign in a zmud script?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: put a ~ in front
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlos Tech: thanks
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: wats a good freeware ftp client for windows ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radial Tech: filezilla
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i used to use leechFTP but it's buggy
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: winscp
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: sweet, filezilla is OS
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radial Tech: yes.  it's very stable, i use it all the time
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: does winscp support the ftp protocol ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: lol i never noticed, i use winscp heaps, but always for scp
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlos Tech: hmm the " thing didn't work.. is there some other way to let zmud append " to my variable?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Put the quote character before it?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlos Tech: usually its ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlos Tech: ~
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Use %char(34) instead.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: hmm winscp is not working, it appears to only support  SFTP
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: not true
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: maybe your setup is screwed up :)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars nods at Global Menace and says, "I concur." Why didn't you?!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: port 21 for ftp right ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: 20/21
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: sftp uses port 22, iirc
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: I'm not overly sure but anything that's using ssh (sftp, scp) will use 22?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i dont want sftp, i want winscp to do vanilla ftp
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it will
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i keep getting timeouts
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: leechftp connected ok earlier
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: user error
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: give me the ip
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: it's a PEBKAC error!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: If you see Dashiell sniggers quietly to himself, reflecting over an amusing thought.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: Dashiell defines PEBKAC
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: there is not much to screw up... port number and host...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hail! Ceasar Tech: I just don't know the E in that
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: end of story
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you have to select the protocol to use
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: problem exists between keyboard and chair
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i did, SFTP with fallback
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: are you using sftp?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: NO
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: theere is no option for FTP, only SFTP
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes there is
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'm looking at it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: not on my version
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WeaponGuy Tech: Only option is STFU?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't believe you
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: because I've been using it for years
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: same
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: which one of us is more likely to have user error?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: what version are you using ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: right now? 4.05
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: 3.8.2 here
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: so it's a new feature
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no it isn't
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: i've been using it since before version 3
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Well upgrade any way, so you can talk about it from similar positions
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlos Tech: ok... i can't fix it..hmm
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlos Tech: lets say i have this #MAPQUERY {[Name] LIKE '%"%1"%'}
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlos Tech: how do i make it recognize "%1" instead?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: omg fiend... there are 3 protocol options... SFTP, SFTP with fallback and SCP...  there is no room for user error there... the option does not exist...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I'll guess either %%1 or \%1
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you're just not skilled enough
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: you are a trolling retard
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WeaponGuy Tech: Full-contact tech debate!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: no personal attacks !
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: meh
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: What program is this? WinSCP?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: the newest version i downloaded has vanilla FTP... so fiend obviously hasnt been using it as long as he makes out
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: who's been making out with fiendish now the whore!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: he is all mine!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: kitaro doesn't know how to use his software
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and he blames me for it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: welcome to ignore land fiend
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish smirks.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: haha sucker
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Don't blame Fiendish for your failure to comprehend.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Kitaro: No offense, but that's kind of ridiculous to say something like that. Fiendish is rather intelligent, and knows what he's talking about. Not to say that you're stupid or anything, but he can run out of patience when you argue back and forth with him. :P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: actually I was just messing with him
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: they added plain ftp in version 4
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Especially when he was offering his help to you.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus snickers with Ol' Dirty Fiendish about their shared secret.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: what did i say that was ridiculous ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but he has me ignored
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so he won't see that
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Torunkes rolls his eyes in disgust at Alt. Helpa Charneus.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: "Welcome to ignore land Fiend'
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Is ignore land a constitutional republic or a totalitarian dictatorship?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: I never ignore people, you never know when they might say something useful however much you dislike them
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hail! Ceasar Tech: I think it's an amusement park
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: who do you think is the president!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: or amusing, dont forget amusing
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: like Achzivland
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Easy - it's Tiger Woods
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WeaponGuy Tech: I think it's a Utopian paradise.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: It's an absolute monarchy.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: he wasnt offering help he was baiting and taunting me... offering irrelevant advice and telling me things that were obviously untrue
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Actually, no he wasn't.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Starling whines pathetically about everything.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: The information he was providing was accurate.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: If you see Dashiell pouts. 
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: Kitaro, Ignorance on your part doesn't constitute an emergency on ours.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: you fell for ctrl F4? (coming into conversation late here)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I was. and it was funny.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: or was that alt f4 =)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but he still has me ignored so I'm safe in saying this
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus snickers with Ol' Dirty Fiendish about their shared secret.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: he claimed that winscp had vanilla FTP support since time immemorial, when i clearly had a version that does not support it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Oh another reason I don't ignore people - my mud  window would stop moving
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: You just don't know how to unlock it, Kitaro.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I think the worst thing you can do is automatically demean someone who is trying to help you. I hate it when I offer advice (whether wrong or right) and the person spouts off saying, 'You're an f'ing idiot. It's not that way at all!'
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: over use of the ignore command 
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hey hargreaves. type #sub {e} {abcde}
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: Kitaro, next time, why don't you ask for help on th Echo channel? it echoes around the mud, making sure the most people hear your request. That way you can get the best help.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: it should be the ignorant command for the users 95% of the time
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Starling is agreeing with that Felt person again...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: You are going to overflow his ignore list guys :(
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: felt i am aware of what echo does...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Okay, but it won't do much good as I'm not using zmud
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish goes, "Heh."
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: gtell is also a good channel to ask on.  Global tell reaches everyone :)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Actually, putting your request on pray a few times really helps.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: relevant advice would not be to tell me that i am ignorant but to tell wat the unlock command is
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: If you really want to get attention, you need to say the same thing 10 times on gossip in about 2 seconds
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: There's a direct correlation between how fast you can say it, and your intelligence.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Kitaro: Have you tried googling it?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i have resoved the issue, as i said, i downloaded the latest version which does include the support
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: BTW [17 Feb 22:33:38] Fiendish Tech: actually I was just messing with him
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Which, if you had listened to Fiendish, he would have told you. ;)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish goes, "Heh."
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: no he was trolling
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Ah yes, the way you can ignore someone, but catch up with channel -h
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: regardless if you had upgraded to the latest version of the thing or checked on their website you would know what features it supports!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: Maybe he did that to make you think he was, so you wouldn't try his suggestions?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: took him long enough
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Fiendish Tech: they added plain ftp in version 4 -- ;)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i saw fiend said that, also it is implict that since i was using v3.x that version added the support
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: basicly i was right to ingore fiend, he was trolling as i surmised, and he is of no use
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: That's incorrect, sir.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Kitaro, you're of no use.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: is there a way for an alias to call another alias?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: Sure...depends on the client
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: jeez i just cleaned out 7 gigs of stuff off windows/temp folder
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: pooooooooooooooooorn
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: office laptop cycled off, took it home, no porn here, still monitored thru citrix =)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: jython should die.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: its like the nopk of languages. ugh.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: this is a long shot - has anyone here used a connection to an ibcos server before?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: wow, that is a longshot... Sorry I haven't.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: lol, well i managed to log onto the unix server, but no idea whre it stores the program i need
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: newbie hacker :p
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: ha ha
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: its a jungle in there.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: try /bin
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: check for ladin in there too thats a nasty prog
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: how do you tell unix to not oscroll?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nexxus Tech: hey guys, what is the command to resize windows.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nexxus Tech: I think it was iniaard or something
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: how do you bypass the semi colon command stack in mush?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: tilde, i think
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: works in zmud
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: test~
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: mmm is that the one?~
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iceman Tech: check for command seperator under ye options
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: test;;;
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: heh
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: ~;
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iceman Tech: lol
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir :P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: heh. it seems its double ;
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: to bypass it lol. thanks anyways :P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: help with mush client? one of the windows (STATS) is up under the menu bar... i can't grab it to move it... any suggestions?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dagas, right-click its tab, and select move...then use the arrow keys
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: AWESOME!!!! thank you
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: trying to work out what an old IBM Intellistation M Pro would have been used for
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: originally
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: the M stands for mudserver
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: heh
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well it has a 10krpm SCSI hard drive, albeit a small one, a gig of 800mhz rambus memory, and a 1.7Ghz P4 CPU, A Quadro2 FX Graphics. I gues back in 2002 it would have been the mutts
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: intriuging
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: some kind of graphics workstation maybe?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: programming station? i dunno
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: wat OS is it running ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i can't tell what it was originally running, someone obviously later stuck a hooky copy of xp pro on it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: omg evil
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Possibly a CAD station
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's cute, it's even got a built in speaker
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well, i'm on recycling duty today, so it'll get a bigger hard drive, a dvdrw, and a nice legal copy of xp home on it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: other than being very grubby, it's all working ok
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: make a decent basic workstation
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: hey anyone use Damn small linux embedded under windows ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: embedded?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: runing under qemu, yes
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: yeah it's the version you can use with windows with dual booting etc
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: without*
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's just running in a light-weight emulator
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: how is the sharing of files between the 2 OS'es ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: is it easy ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: haven't done any sharing between them myself
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: like can i acess the files from windows easy or do they have som annoying virtual hard disk crap ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but it's a very small download, and a quick double-click to find out ;-)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: if dsl has samba then yes
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: yeah im DLing the 50meg file now, but im stuck on 256K dsl atm
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir comforts Kitaro.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: and in limiting it so i can mud
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: lol
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i had 256k adsl like 8 years ago :P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, you can share the drive in 'doze and smbclient it easily
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i changed isp recently and i have to jump thru hoops to get to fast speeds
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: hmm, no i mean can you get direct access to the linux filesystem from windows without samba or openssh or watever
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: if the kernel has ntfs-q3
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: windows is dumb when comes to filesystems
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: sorry windows is dumb period :)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not dumb. ignorant
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's just linux...everything applies...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a minimalist linux, without its own virtualization at all
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i can share a folder between two os's wil
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: with virtual pc
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: exactly...you want advanced virtualization features, then use a commercial virtualization product...qemu is designed to be "just enough"
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: vpc 2007 is free
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: yeah i use virtalpc07sp1 and vmware5
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: question --- i used to use Mozilla Thunderbird on a linux box... now i am at a new client and they only allow MS software on their machines... wich means i have to use Outlook... is there any way to get my old emails and address book from thunderbird and put them into Outlook???
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's free, but it's still commercial
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can run DSL fine in virtualPC or vmware
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: pretty sure thunderbird can export the messages into a common format
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: i don't see anything that says export... just import
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: trouble is does outlook understand the common format?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i am trying to avoid all the hassles of the vm's tho
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jennyanydots Tech: Certainly can with the address book, tools, export.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: thunderbird won't export? bang goes the brilliance of o/s
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: kitaro, there's no such thing as avoiding a VM, when you want 2 separate OSes running on one machine at the same time
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: check to see what format the file already is in...it may simply already be in standard exported format
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jennyanydots Tech: address book is fine, email, not so much.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: yeah... i found the address book... just need all my emails...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: ok do you know how cygwin uses the NTFS?   i want to know if dsl does something similar or if it uses some kind of containers file for the os
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cygwin isn't an OS
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: that is not the issue
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, it is
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thurisaz Tech: can anyone enlighten me a little on how i can connect my ps3 to my laptop so i can back up its HD
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i am asking if the files from dsl can be acesses directly from windows
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you want 2 OSes to see the same filesystem, then they both need to understand that filesystem
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that sounds like something sony would never let you do
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you can't, thurisaz, you'd need to take the hdd out of the ps3 and hook it up with a caddy
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: cygwin doesn't handle NTFS, windows does -- cygwin just uses the win32 API
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: so.... does qemu do that ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thurisaz Tech: where could i get a caddy is that attainable
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: DSL is an OS...it's reading its ext filesystem...windows is an OS...it's reading its NTFS filesystem
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i'm sure layers could be implemented
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: any decent online computer etailer, the ps3 uses standard 2.5" laptop sata hdd's
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: kitaro, have you listened to anything that's already been said regarding the answer to that question?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: $15-20 bucks should do it, download hirenscd and you can use the ghost on it to make an identical backup to another disk, or to dvd
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: yes... i already know everything you have told me... but you havent answered my question
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: actually I have, multiple times
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: abelinc's great at not answering questions, good luck :-)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: perhaps my questioning is flawed
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, sorry Tiger, I actually put in information in my answers, rather than rhetoric
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: but i cbf writing an essy... it will be faster to wait for the DL
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: sometimes your answers are difficult, abe, i'm sorry
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my answers were intermingled with your comments :P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thurisaz Tech: well i was thinkin bout putting linux on the ps3 and just try to direct connect kinda thing.  was goana just back up PS3 to ext HD but i guess its not compatable since the ps3 doesnt acknowledge it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: ok lets start with basics, how does dsl embedded store files ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ext, as I said
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's linux
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: virtual disk, probably
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: windows doesn't speak ext
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which I said
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I think that there are ext drivers available for win32
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: linux does not = ext, it could mean resier, xfs, jfs, etc
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [18 Feb 11:11:51] Abelinc Tech: exactly...you want advanced virtualization features, then use a commercial virtualization product...qemu is designed to be "just enough"
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: kitaro, a linux based off "don't incluse *ANY* extra features, = n ext variant
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: he did say that, i saw him
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you want a full-featured linux, then you're barking up the wrong tree with DSL
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: so... how does windows store the files from qemu's linux ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: DSL is "damn small"...don't include anything
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: heh. found the answer using google and navigating a faq page
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and much more
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: loopback files ssytem ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: took me ca 1 minute
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the KNOPPIX file
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: yeah i know im just being a pain now... 3 secs on google... but i thought stupidly a quick question on here....
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: START qemu\qemu.exe -L qemu/ -no-kqemu -m 128 -localtime -soundhw es1370 -kernel linux24 -initrd minirt24.gz -hda KNOPPIX/knoppix -append "qemu vga=791 quiet noscsi nousb nofirewire atapicd noideraid noacpi acpi=off noapm noagp ide1=noprobe ide2=noprobe nomce frugal" 
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: rtfm should be a priority
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, the question was answered right after you stated that using shared drives wasn't kosher for your desired goal
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: don't be silly, tech channel couldn't exist if people read manuals
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not always
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: tech channel is for avoiding rtfm
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i use it to avoid too much rtfm. a little rtfm is always healthy
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Life is Meaningless Tech: tech channel is for people writing tfm.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your response to qemu being basic/no frills (so not having the file accessibility features of VMWare/VPC) was that you were trying to avoid VM hassle, to which I responded that that would be impossible, as you cannot run 2 complete OSes without one...and qemu is a virtual machine emulator
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: perhaps you could get the file downloaded quicker by taking a thumb drive to a local library
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: accually most of my questions had assumed you guys would read between the lines... but i assumed too much, however i cbf writing an essay with all the tech specs of wat im after... i thought a simple can i access the linux files from windows would be enough
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and the answer is hellz yes
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which you were given that answer
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: kitaro, there are filesystem drivers for windows which means you can read extfs
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: it's kinda assumed simple stuff like ftp, ssh, samba can all be done and so dont need to be pursued
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to which you responded that the METHODS of that access were not acceptable to you
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Can we get back to something relevant - Windows 7 rocks 
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: but the copy of dsl stored on the hardisk which qemu runs is not in "ext" format, it's probably some cow format
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir THWAPS Bast for being a moron.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: have you got the windows7beta timelimit crack ?   =)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: i was kidding, i only run XP
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: and that in vmware
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i don't want windows 7, i don't fancy all the money to upgrade
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i have win7b running in a virtualpv
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i like the new w7 feature that lets big software vendors to bypass your firewall :)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: i gave up on windows at vista, i run opensuse on all my comps now
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: oh sexy
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'll use xp pro til i'm old and grey
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: doesn't ms ever learn?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i cant wait for <insert multinational> to anally probe me
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: m$ only know one thing, and that's that they need a new OS product every 3-5 years to maintain their revenue stream
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i just set up my new box with fedora 10. will nuke xp as soon as i finish some games and get my mapper working under linux :)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what language is the mapper in?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: c++, i think
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: no source?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: does linux support dx10 yet?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: there were some problems compiling it. i already asked the creator
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's oss. i use it with xp and it's great
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: isnt there a fork of wine for games?   cost dollars tho
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i have licenced crossover pro/games
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: doesn't that defeat the object, kitaro?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: defeat the object of what?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i dunno, im just reporting the news, lol
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Dagnir - you have a link for it?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: free open source software
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I'd like to check it out
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: http://sourceforge.net/projects/mmapper/
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's not for aard tho
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: thanks
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: switch to linux, then have to spend money on a program that -might- run my games in a worse way than windows :-)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: could work, but it would probably suck
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: crossover is not free and not open source, it's based on wine (and they contribute back to wine) but plus some proprietary code
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'll forget that idea then ;-)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: sales of crossover helps fund some wine development
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: nice
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: (eventually)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: crossover is mostly free/oss
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: or you could buy M$ where the job's already done
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: they use several licenses tho
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: tiger some people like to give money to the os guys to get rid of ms tho
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: the point is you don't have to put up with the ms crap, like getting your machine pwned every other day
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: my machine never gets pwned
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, yeah. we've heard that already
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: you just don't know it yet :)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you're invincible to zero-day attacks with no av and using ie. got it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i've never got one
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: because you don't torrent, right?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i don't torrent, you're right
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: good for you
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: well i have to say over the span of XP's life i have only gotten 2 bits of malware myself
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: of course i rarely use IE
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: getting infected is mostly down to habit, just like STD's
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that reminds me. have to go check myself :P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so there you go, by implication, anyone who gets viruses on their computer are more likely to get STDs
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so it follows, that if you change from the major brand of condoms, you can go shag a monkey and not get aids
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah. that's why i installed ubuntu for my little sisters
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: lol, geeks would be promiscous if the chick would have them
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: have they found a way of wiping out all aids sufferers yet?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: other than wait?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but i like linux for great software and desktop enviroment. the security is just a bonus
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: btw - anyone know a solution for firefox being sluggish on linux? it seems to be common problem with 3.0+
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: can't be, linux is supposed to be hellishly fast
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the rest of it is
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: what gave you that idea?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so it's fast, apart from the bits that aren't
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yup
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no other point in using it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i use fluxbox and terminal apps mostly. it is lightning fast
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: nope, apart from it being more functional, more user friendly, more secure, more whatever
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: rofl
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: erm, no
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: would be a bit slower, if i used new kde with all the compiz plugins, but still faster than vista/7
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: secure? maybe, the rest, no
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i installed debian 5 tonight, the lxde with openbox is hot... super fast
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: kde 4.2 is nice, kde 4.1 and 4.0 sucked though
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: the kde guys have always said that 4.0, 4.1 were not replacements for kde 3.X
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yeah, i ran them anyway just to get used to it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: never really liked kde
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so far fluxbox has been my favourite. if it only supported couple of compiz plugins...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: plasma is finally coming around, kde now has some 3d effects built in, so you don't need compiz
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: don't care about the effects, really
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i like the window management plugins
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the mac-like stuff
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i dont like kde / gnome much... the are too much bloatware.... may as well use windows
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: the problem with using something like fluxbox is that as soon as you run a kde/gnome program you're going to be pulling in many of their libraries anyway, so unless you can get by without those programs it's kind of pointless running a "lightweight" WM
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i like blackbox derived stuff and fvwm derived stuff
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i don't run it because of low recource. i just like the minimalist feel of it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: true, fortuantly many nice apps use gtk with using the whole gnome shebang... and i avoid the kde stuff whenever i can
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: if it used compiz-shelf it would be perfect wm
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: danir: same i like the minimalist lightwieght fast feel
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: which one is the shelf?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: resizes all the windows and fits them on the desktop for switching
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: that one is build into kde now
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: o'rly?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yeap
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nice, but kde has way too much bloat
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: even the damn desktop icons have like 4 buttons on them, if you get close enough
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: lol
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: overkill
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: fluxbox+gnome-do is nice
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: gnome has just as much if not more. wtf do they need a daemon to read/write config files?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: agreed yhog
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: only thing i liked about the last linux flavour i tried was the windows were a bit like pieces of paper, so when you moved them, they sorta flapped a bit, and you could adjust their transparency, rotate them, twist them into 3d and such
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nah. gnome icons behave like icons
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: and gnome developers thinks they know best and makes all the decisions for meaning you are limited in what you can configure and customise
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nautilus is a pretty sweet file manager tho
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: beats konqueror for sure
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: tnuts that's just eye candy, and they've been around for years. *nix desktops and windows managers have tons of functionality that Windows lack, like multiple desktops, shading windows, auto raise windows to name a few
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: windows got multi desktops just recently
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: window rules too. on top etc
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: the amiga had multiple desktops way back whenever
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the last bit it doesn't have
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: and windows still doesn't have sessions? 
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyhe Tech: Can anyone give me some advice?  I think my laptop is running too hot, but not sure what temps should concern me
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cult of Rok Tech: It would really depend on model/brand.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyhe Tech: Yeah, I saw that online.  HP with amd 64 x2.  ITs running at 70 C up to 90 C, which seems excessive
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: Ask Chuft about the heat.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: Or Majic. Her laptop case is melted.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyhe Tech: Haha, that would be terrible
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyhe Tech: I guess my 200 degrees F isnt as bad as it could be
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: It's still quite hot, but not as bad as some. :P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: anyone know of a decent utility that will crack a "RAR" password?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: the reason i am asking is i set a password on a rar-zip file, and i forgot what it was.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: computers of any kind really didn't ought to be going above 70C
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if your lappy is overly hot, clean the fan and vents out
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if it's still hot, get a cooling mat
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it helps against stds
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: crazy intel motherboard has detected a via usb2 card as an SSA Controller
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}It's Big Rampagne Tech: anyone use linux?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: what's the much command to turn chats off in the main window? or is there a perm setting for every session?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: mush*
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: is there a way to have the prompt show after everything shown and not just keyboard inputs?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: anyone know or was i not clear?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Mandy Mandorallen Tech: Not possible, as doing so would be a sheer waste of bandwidth.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Mandy Mandorallen Tech: Instead, you can just trigger on an empty line if you have compact disabled.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: how do i trigger on a blank line?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: ^$
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: a few ways..that should work (maybe)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kergin Tech: strange, I am able to mud with no problems, however, every web site I try gives me a page load error.  any ideas?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: bad proxy ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: internet proxy settings
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: DNS problems?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kergin Tech: ok, how can I check these?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Honestly, I don't know if I would worry about it too much
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: likely dns...I've had similar issues.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: If your mud is working, you really shouldn't be tweaking too many settings
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: tools internet options check for automatic settings check
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: can u guys try and answer a question even if i cant ask it properly, due to lack of knowledge?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Not if you don't ask it.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Kergin, try browsing to http://209.85.171.100/
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: if the automatic settings aren't working right, use a public DNS server instead of your ISP's
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: The angle of the dangle is inversely proportionate to the heat of the meat.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Hellfiend, just ask the question and people will try their best (for the most part)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: The only dumb question is "can I ask a question about ___?"
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kergin Tech: Rathik, no problem
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: ok at my school we use CIPA and it requires an authentication password that is our login. i cannot mud at school but if i took my laptop would i still be able to connect through telnet or mush if i can get on the network but cant authenticate
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: then it's your DNS, Kergin.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: are you in the US?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kergin Tech: yep, US
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: What's CIPA?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: type of filter the school uses
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: internet filter
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: no
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: 208.67.222.222    is a good public DNS server
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: what OS?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I doubt that you would be able to connect, Hellfiend
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: kitaro w
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: ok
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: You could try port 23
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: even if you could, youd still be going through the same filtering. 
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: get an air card, so you arent restricted to the internet network's security settings restrictions.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: using a different dns server is only a temp fix, complain to your isp and tell them to fix their dns
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: depending on the type of filtering it could be easy to get around, or hard to get around.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: agreed
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: well from what i understand it still allows access to the internet it just blocks the user from visiting any sites
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: or specifically ports.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kergin Tech: is the 
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: So it even blocks google.com?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: 4.2.2.2 is an alternate backbone DNS server. Comcast doesn't bother fixing theirs, though I've complained about it multiple times over the last year...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: have you paid you inet bill ?   some isps might cut you off by dropping access to dns
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: it even blocks the school webpage if u dont authenticate but u can get there it just blocks all user interface
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: Lacrimosa: unless you begin a class action suit, your complaints arent worth a damn.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kergin Tech: google searches work.  I have paid the bill.  Time Warner Cable
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: thats a pretty pathetic way to drop someones internet, i want that isp. i could have free internet forever.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: yeah call your isp tech support and tell them they suck, lol
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: that's what i alwasy do
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i have seen that done as a warning, they cut you off completely later
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: in all seriousness, though, i doubt they would just drop your DNS services... more likely they are having some issues on their end of that's the case
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: 4.2.2.2, 4.2.2.3 and 4.2.2.4 are all public DNS servers owned by LevelOne that serve as national emergency secondary military backbone. They're not going to go down or be inaccessible,,,
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: if you have a friend using the same provider, give them a ring and see if they are having trouble
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kergin Tech: ok, how do I change my DNS server?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: if you don't, then you're stuck trying to call your provider
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kergin Tech: thanks Scars, I'll try that
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: have you tried just restarting your connection?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kergin Tech: a few times now
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: nope, one more step in between there. your cable modem could be going bad. try cold-booting it.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars nods at Lacrimosa.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kergin Tech: tried that too
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: kind of assumed that was part of "restarting your connection"
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: you could find another way to occupy your time for the evening :P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: PR0N
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: not if he can't browse to sites, Menace...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: thats why you keep a good reserve
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kergin Tech: this is the other way to occupy my time
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: UHHHH, NAS n00b
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: who browses their porn from teh interwebs? thats what a torrentified NAS is for.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: youre so 1996
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lacrimosa doesn't really watch pr0n, so she doesn't know.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: if i want to use adodb in a visual basic application do i have to set it up as an ODBC data source or is there an include file i can use just like in php?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: Dwight Yorke Tech: if i want to use adodb in a visual basic application do i have to set it up as an ODBC data source <-- yes
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: nods thanks
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: using FireFox, is there a way to flag/tag specific cookies not be deleted when i clear private data ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: try cs lite addon
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and use a virtual machine for porn ;)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: thanks, I'll check into it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: using zmud, anyone know how to get #url to not use IE ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i suspect thats a function or what browser is set as your default in windows...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: I was thinking it might be. will check thanks
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Tech: Question, when I use mushclient on my laptop (running vista), whenever the "world file saved" thing happens, a popup says Access to somethingoranother is denied....this doesn't happen on my desktop w/ xp...any idea how to fix that?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right-click, run as admin
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: on your mushclient icon
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: manually save your world file to a location you have access to and turn off auto load world file on startup
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: alternative answer, install it to a location other than program files
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Tech: Cool, those both sound like they'd work...can I set it to auto-run as admin?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, when you change the shortcut to run as admin, it'll always be that way
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: running user apps as admin on a regular basis is bad
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: you want to avoid running programs as admin
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Tech: Maybe I'll just reinstall to another location...thanks guys
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: of course it is, but you have no choice if you use windows
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I'll follow that advice when M$ gets their heads out of their butts and makes their OS actually work properly without it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: not true in this case
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: well, you do, but that will break everything :P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are workarounds...that's not working properly
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: my solution works using the features of the os and app, while not using poor security practices
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: with vista,MS decided to change the rules that they have been instructing developers to follow for years
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, your "solution" to not let mushclient autoload
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: if only they had mandated programs store per user config in the users' home directories instead of the abomination that is the registry
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: yes because it will try to write back to that file...  it's also a good idea not to write to that world file in "program files" to preserve a master world file for when your working world file corrupts or is misconfigured beyond usability
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: kitaro, stopping your MUD client from actually working when you double-click it is a stupid method of "backing up"
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you want a good copy, then make a good copy
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: what isuggested doesnt stop it working, in fact it makes it better for the many reasons i just outlined
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what you suggested does
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's basically bending over and thinking about something nice
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when MUSH is double-clicked, it should load
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: wat you are suggesting is that it be run as admin, a line of thinking that has prepetuated bad practices on windows for years, contributing to many of the "issues" blamed on microsoft
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: nobody got fired for blaming ms :P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: so a U3 usb drive: basically set it up on my primary computer and I can install progs to it as if it were another hdd. then I can take it anywhere and run progs from it ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: windows?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: yeah, only works on windows
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: basicly yes
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: cool, time to play with it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Habasi gallantly tips her hat.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: Should having linux OS interfere with the installation of XP from a disk?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: unless you want it to
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: should it? no, will it? probaly
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: how?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: would need to know more about your setup
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: That may not have even been the question to ask.....I know I have a problem....just not entirely sure what
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: most likely prob would be overwriting MBR 
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: yes, I think something to do with linux meaning the MBR needs to be reset
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: does anyone know how I go about doing that?;
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: yeah
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what are you trying to do?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you don't have windows on the os list?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: you install windows, now you cant dual boot to your linux partition ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: I have a packard bell computer, it used to be on xp. The recovery method was via a floppy boot disk which then accessed a hidden partition on my harddrive
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: it no longer seems to work
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: and I want to get back on xp
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ok, so windows nuked the mbr, right?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: ...possibly
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: I'm ever so slightly out of my depth
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: so the restore finished ok ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: it starts asking me to insert master CD 1
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so you're doing the recovery atm?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: it never needed a master CD before....just the floppy was sufficient
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: you probably killed your restor partition when you installed linux
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: well, no, I've temporarily given up
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you probably nuked the restore partition while installing linux
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: so any ideas on the best way to get xp back?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: reinstall?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: just install it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: get xp cd off bittorrent
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: never done a recovery in my life
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: so I can find a full xp cd on torrent that should fix it? including MBR problems if there are any?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i cant teach you how to partition your drive, lol
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: I know how to partition my drive, roughly
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's not about mbr
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: in fact, the hidden partition is still showing, with the files
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and you probably want to partition your drive before the xp install does
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: the boot floppy just no longer seems to be accessing them as default
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: but if you didnt get cd's, just the boot floppy you are screwed, and you need to get a cd from somewhere
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's like a tank and will ruin everything
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: but I should be able to just download a CD from torrent and burn it?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: sure
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: Cool, I'll give that a try....I just hope I don't end up nuking my linux OS and ending up with no OS at all ^^
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: use gparted live cd to set up a windows partition
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and later direct xp install to this partition. otherwise it will screw up your linux partitions
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: you can get xp live cds?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: doesnt the recovery floppy allow you to choose a source ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: not that I can see.....
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and you have to re-install grub/lilo later, if you want to access your linux os
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: I'm happy for my linux to go bye bye so long as I get xp back
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: for the time being at any rate
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: k. good luck
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: thanks all
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: umm im thinkin the floppy expects 2 partitions, the xp one and the recovery one, but you prob have 3 or more partitions now, for linux as well, if the floopy is hard coded to look at a certain partition, you could be screwed
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ms products don't recognize anything non-microsoft
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: its weird actually, I have an 80GB harddrive, the ubuntu I installed only partitioned 40GB of the HD so I actually have 40GB sitting completely unused
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: well you do have options in ubuntu install to do it manually any way you want
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: well yeah, guess I screwed up somewhere =P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: I'm using Vista.. trying to download something logged on as the administrator.. and it's telling me I can't save to that location because I'm not an administrator and must get permission
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Anyone know how to fix that?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cult of Rok snickers softly.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: log in as admin?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Reread what I said.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: uninstall vista
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Impotent Inicus sighs.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cult of Rok Tech: What folder Inic?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: MUSHclient folder
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Under the program files (x86), not the program files
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: can you download it somewhere else and then move it?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cult of Rok Tech: See if the desktop or a folder on the desktop will work.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: It worked, but I'm still wondering why it's telling me to log on as an administrator
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cult of Rok Tech: Something special about the x86 folder or subfolder?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: have you disabled the double confirm in vista?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: How do I do that
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: http://www.petri.co.il/disable_uac_in_windows_vista.htm
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: anyone use python?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Yeah
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ok so i just started reading how to think like a computer scientist and i made some functions like how to calculate free space loss for a radio signal
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: but how do i get them to reload after i close the instance of python command line with out re-defining them
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Create a .py file, and put the functions in there
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: You can execute the .py file by running python yourfilename.py
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: does it have to be saved to a certain file on my computer?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Yes, you have to create the file though, and name it anything you want.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Typically Python files have the extension of .py though.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: yeah i did that part made it in text doc and saved it as a .py
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: is the syntax python filename.py?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Yes
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: man like 3 hours and i was just missing python at the beginning
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [20 Feb 00:20:18] Rathik Tech: You can execute the .py file by running python yourfilename.py
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i saved that dang file every where
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: If you are using Linux, python is probably on your path, so you could run ./filename.py if the file is properly chmodded.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: havent got back into linux yet but i will get there soon
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: python is my first language and i am wishing i would have started sooner
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: It's a good first language :)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: thats what the book was saying
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: it seems pretty good for math
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Actually most programming languages are ;)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: depends on the math
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i hope to finish computer classes and then move on to physics
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: still wont load it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: python freespaceloss.py
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: You should make sure you are in the same directory as the file
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: returns a syntaxerror: invalid syntax
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Oh
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: In that case, it sounds like you have a typo in your file
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Does it say more than that though?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: no thats it and the pointer thingy points to the last s in freespaceloss
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Ah
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i have the .py saved into my python26 folder
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Did you type python freespaceloss.py in the interpreter or the command line? (It's supposed to be the command line.)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ah ha interpreter is where i do the defining and such right?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: You can
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: It's a quick way to test things, but most code is stored in files, not entered into the interpreter
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: yeah its where i am doin almost everything right now with the whole learning and everything
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: By the way, if you want to run the .py file from the interpreter, then do a execfile("freespaceloss.py") from within the interpreter
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: so then my question is if i have freespaceloss.py ...... sweet thanks
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: thanks a ton man you rock
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: hehehe teacher said we can use notes for our test but you know what i dont want to screw up on a stupid formula when the pressure is on so i am gonna write a bunch of formula functions and use those on the test
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Is it a math class or a python class?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: Be sure and separate them up. Nothing worse than having too much information in once place.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: wireless networking class and the teacher is making us do all the RF math for everything even though he himself said its pointless
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: but i like math and its easy points so i dont care
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: just trying to learn python on my own
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik smiles happily.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: It's fun :)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kergin Tech: have you tried Ruby?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: If you wanna learn something just for the sake of learning it, check out Assembly. *snicker*
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: nope and i am good on assembly
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: If you use a client like MUSHclient, you can code scripts/plugins in Python for it.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: Still a penis to learn.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i think python is enough for me for now its my first language and should make learning the rest of them a little easier
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: nothing better then the feeling of a learning epiphany
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: oh, there are a few better feelings...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: My first programming language was Basic. Of course by "basic" I mean I had an Apple IIe when I was a little kid and didn't have much of a choice... lol
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: not really when you learn she is down for a threesome
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: keep it pg-13, but that was funny
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: hey also anyone got any input about western digital terrabyte external hard drives?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: ruby is nice, but it might spoil you when you discover other languages aren't so elegant and well thought out
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: In order for a movie to be rated PG-13 and avoid the dreaded "R" rating, only certain words and phrases must be avoided. For instance, it can contain one instance of the "f" word, two of various others, and only vague hints at sexuality or drug use. We have to keep it "G" here.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: What about PG?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: PG can still contain words we can't use here.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: For instance, The Princess Bride contains the phrase "I want my father back, you son of a -----!" and maintains the PG rating.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: dude do you work at a movie store?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that'd be son of a bitch :-)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: WD's not generally a bad brand. Terabyte drives are a lot more storage than most people need unless you're backing up your movie collection on it.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: Actually, my mother owned one until last year.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: lol, that explains it...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You shout at yourself, "Ha ha ha, yeah, you really are a bitch!"
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i bought the terabyte because i have almost 300gigs of music
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You point at Shadowen Turrillius and call him a bitch in an Ivar-like manner.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Heh, are they all flacs or something?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: mp3's just a TON of them
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: if i am at someones house i ask them if they have music and they say yeah like 20 gigs i transfer it and add it to the collection
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: I've got over 40000 tracks myself...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: I had a 224g HD full of movies and music and something weird happened, fried it and erased everything on it.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i have been transfering music to the terabyte drive for like 4 hours now
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: dont say stuff like that it makes me scared and sad
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Vorpes: May lightning strike and short circuit your computer.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: Are you transferring over USB 1, USB 2.0 or Firewire?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: It was horrible. I can't figure out what happened to it. There's no sign of electrical disturbance, there's no sign of magnetism, it's just... gone.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: USB 3.0 is coming!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik goes, "WHEE!" and falls over trying to dance around himself.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: ouch...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: It looks like it was slaved to another system and formatted, in all honesty. (Which leaves no signs...)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: usb 2.0
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: it'll take a while...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: How fast is eSata btw?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: ouch, Turrillius. That sucks...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Shadowen Turrillius rapidly nods twice at Lacrimosa, in complete agreement.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: mmm, don't recall exact number offhand, think it's like 3GB/sec...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: that's Gb/s i believe
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: well thanks for the help i am back to my book
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: Hey, I actually have a tech question, since I'm already here. I have an HP computer that just kinda... stopped working. It got to where it would go into sleep/hibernation and then wouldn't come back, then it just stopped booting up completely. When you turn it on, the keyboard lights up, and the fans take off like normal, but the monitor never gets a signal and the HD doesn't even spin. Any thoughts?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: power supply failing? Bad RAM on mobo? bad mobo or processor? First thing is, does it do a POST test at power-on? Do you get any beeps at all, in other words?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: No beeps. Nothing. 
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodyThorn Tech: have you pulled it all down to nothing but the motherboard, cpu and power supply?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Shadowen Turrillius nods.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodyThorn Tech: then all you need to do is try it with a spare power supply, and you know what it is.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodyThorn Tech: and from the sounds of it, my money is on the motherboard.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: That's never good.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodyThorn Tech: If it's a generic, motherboards and that much.  Depending anyway.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: I've got an HP desktop here that does the same thing, appears to be either motherboard or power supply, don't have a spare PSU to check it with. Motherboards are cheap as long as you know what you're looking for and get the right socket for your processor. HP uses generic motherboards.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodyThorn Tech: but as an hp, you'll probably be piecing together a new machine out of it.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodyThorn Tech: Or not, heh.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: The local computer supply store should have something decent. *nods*
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: it's Dell that's worst about proprietary parts..
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: I'll look up the factory specs and get what I need to have the monster back. *snicker*
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodyThorn Tech: depends on the time frame Lac....I've seen dells made of completely generic, and HPs and Compaqs that were 95% proprietary.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: meh, fair...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodyThorn Tech: truthfully, I think every company has put out their share of proprietary crap.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: probably
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: any mushclient users on ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: hmm wat is the message from the mud when there is a global quest that i am eligible to join?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nexxus Tech: help gquest
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: i want to make a trigger.. i need to know wat it says
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i think he means the exact output
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: like Global quest: you can now join
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: Is there an equivalent for alcohol 120% on linux anyone knows about?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: or any reliable method of burning an ISO to disk
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: what unreliable methods have you already tried?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: Installing alcohol on WINE messed up. Its not important I was merely asking for a recommendation if anyone had one
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: lol, why would use use wine?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: k3b
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: there's a metric f***load of cd burning apps for linux
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: kde and gnome have them built inn
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: in even
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: on add remove programs I was getting the message that k3b won't download the files
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: all I really want to do is burn 1 iso
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: and I'm very bad at using linux
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what distro/desktop are you using?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: ubuntu, feisty I think
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: most modern distros will give you 'burn to disk' option in the context menu
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: gnome? k3b is a kde app
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: yes, gnome, I believe
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nautilus has a built-in cd burner
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aterius Tech: Anyone try mudding with one of those netbooks?  I'm looking at the Asus 1000HE
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: too small screen, too crap keyboard
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aterius Tech: I tried it out at bestbuy, the keyboard is fine...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: i'm talking about all netbooks, laptops. notebooks, whatever
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aterius Tech: Oh...well I want something portable, I work at a fire dept and we can't use the city's internet for non-work related stuff
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: look at the --- HP Jornada 728 Handheld PC / Docking Station F4356A-ABA --- great portable and small too :)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: i use that when i am on the road... love it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: i and i know where you could get one for only $99 :)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aterius Tech: 99 bucks wow?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: and honestly... i use it just about as much as i do my blackberry when i am on the road
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aterius Tech: Definately worth looking into...what OS does it use...I jailbroke my iphone so I plan on tethering it into my netbook
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: go here... --- http://www.mwave.com/mwave/skusearch.hmx?SCriteria=AA74800&CartID=done&nextloc=  ---- its all the details
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: and NO i do not have any affiliation with that company... that is where i bought mine
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aterius Tech: Yeah but I have an iphone and big PC...I need something in between...primarily for writing/surfing web while I'm gone....plus, free internet (sorta)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: yeah... that will do it... just get a wifi card and it will roam wifi networks... that is what i do
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: cost me $25 for a wireless card at RadioShak....
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: anyone know of a "free" service that will send you a txt message to your phone if you get an email? 
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yeah, use a forward rule in your email client
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Life is Meaningless Tech: get a smart phone
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: but in that instance... don't you have to have your email "client" up and on for that to work?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: depends on the provider, some providers allow you to set up rules from a web based client
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: oh... i didn't think of that... let me check
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: hmm... no only "forwarder" is just to forward the whole email to another email account.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: i am looking for something that will notify me that i have recieved an email, and who sent it and possibly the subject :)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: your mobile phone usual has its own email address, verizon is <phonenum>text.com
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: your mobile phone usual has its own email address, verizon is <phonenum>\text.com
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: <phonenum>@vtext.com
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: finally :)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: yes... but i don't wanna forward the whole email... i just want notification that i have recieved an email :)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: does that make sense?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: have your email provider/client send an email to your phone every time you recieve something
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: or forward it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what's the difference in a email forwarded or an email saying "You got an email"?  You got a notification that you have an email either way :)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: woo i just got mushclient working in ubuntu under wine
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shave Your Leges Tech: how do i get more than one window to be "on top" of my main window zmud 7.21?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: technically you can't. best you can do is resize a couple, dock them where you like them. then dock others above/below so they are tabbed
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: then swap tabs as you like
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: once you're happy lock your layout. its too easy to frack your tabs all
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shave Your Leges Tech: i used to have 3 windows right now i have two. somehow i messed it up. =( they were all on top
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: then you know more than I. all 3 were on top of a 4th window ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shave Your Leges Tech: yup.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Habasi shrugs helplessly.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shave Your Leges Tech: it's something to do with typing it in, not using the pin button
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shave Your Leges Tech: i'll try using docks though see if i can be happy
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: got a MUSH question with plugins.  how do i set a global variable from a plugin?  I can get it via GetPluginVariable() but not set it?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: "SetPluginVariable()"
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: no help file about that.  but it works same way?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: i believe so
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: no dice.  i tried SetPluginVariable("", global, value)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: zuell --- go here --- http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=1642
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: thanks Dagas.  looks like this is a wee bit more complicated than i thought... :)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: let me ask a different question. i want the total number of quests i have. is there a command i can use to get this number that isn't whois?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: myrank 6
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: neat. no way to just get a single line item?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but you're only looking it up once, and then tracking it...whois is fine for that purpose (particularly if you want done/failed)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: well. everytime i do a quest, i want to report that quest at the end and tell what the quest number was.  so .. need the start number somehow.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, but only once EVER
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so your looking for an easy 1-line answer is just silly
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: i would set it once. but would need to reset it every qeust.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: oh let me say that again.  i need to reset the total quest number after each quest, yeah?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you need to increment the variable every quest...you don't re-ask Aard for the final number every quest
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nexxus Tech: whats the question in play?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oldnumber + 1 is better than trigger on some other command
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: question in play: want to report quest details.  want to report last quest number (500).  each quest, number goes up by 1.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nexxus Tech: I think thats what we are going on about right?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, so when you notice "hey, I just got 23 QPs", add 1
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: the start number. how do i effectively get that and store it globally.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no need to whois or myrank every quest
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: oh.. not that number.  the total finished quests... 
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: ie. i have completed 500 quests . this quest i got 20 qps.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes zuellier...when you get the "Hey, I just got 23 QPs", change the total quests number
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nexxus Tech: wait Zuellier, are you tracking QUESTS or QUESTPOINTS?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nexxus Tech: or both?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you got those QPs because you did a quest...just ADD ONE
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: both
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: quests.  the other is local. the number of completed quests is more global.  
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: what client do you use
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nexxus Tech: Thats two different triggers, I am not sure if your capable of the coding but the quest trigger should be easy. The quest points is somewhat a bit difficult.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: so if i close MUSH, it still maintains that last number.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nexxus, don't need 2 separate triggers for counting the quests
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you counted the quest points, then you counted the quests
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nexxus Tech: Each quest is the same amount of QP?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, but each amount of QPs is one quest
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nexxus Tech: Still kinda new to Aardwolf so forgive me 
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: if you received qps for that quest that means u completed the quest..so add one to quests completed
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: zuellier, global vs local was your other question, and not part of what I'm discussing...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: okay hold on.  i need the start number.  that's a global kind of variable.  the other stuff is relatively easy
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nexxus Tech: Which start number? Everyone starts at 0 quests right?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you only need the start number once ever, though...so spending time looking for a 1-liner command is a waste
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nexxus, only if you have the trigger before you ever start playing
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: are you tracking qps earned oo
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nexxus Tech: Ah, so he wants a trigger to start with his current 500 quests right?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's already done quests...so he wants those to be part of his number
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, but for that, he just needs to set the variable once to 500
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: whois shows how many quests i have finished.  that number goes up each time i do a quest.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nexxus Tech: Well in that case, he may have to make a trigger, then a command. Where the command is x + y, where x is quests and y is his inputted interger.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: i want a number maintained through MUSH sessions.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nexxus Tech: I wouldnt recommend setting his interger to 500 because if he remorts *i think* he will reset quests to 0 right?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, so save that number somewhere, and load it on startup
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no nexxus
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: no.. that number is maintained forever .. going upwards.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: quests are a total, not reset ever
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nexxus Tech: Ah ok. Appologies.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: ummm.. on startup. can i fire off that myrank 6 at startup and mark the number relatively easily?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: course, i want to do this with CPs .. :)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: zuellier, you're not listening...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: i use atreidess' quest tracker script i reset my averages every mort ... good think it keeps the all time average too
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's silly to trigger off whois or myrank when you already know the number
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nexxus Tech: Zuellier, explain in detail what you really want.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not zmud, elchanan
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: yea i know
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you just want the VARIABLE to be stored across sessions
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: okay.  i know the 500 number (first time i run the script). then, as i finish quests, that number goes up.  now. i log off.  
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then the variable only needs to be initially set once, ever, in your lifetime...no trigger ever needed for that one variable
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: however could be converted if some one would spend the time
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: i relogon. what is that number?  500?  no.. i want it to be 500 + whatever quests i finished last session.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: or something simmilar
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, zuellier, and when you incremented that number, it changed the variable
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: i cannot set that variable from a plugin.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nexxus Tech: that is because, Zuellier, you didnt set a variable.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nexxus Tech: the only thing you set was 500.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: i cannot reset that global variable from a plugin.  
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nexxus Tech: and when you log off, and log back on whatever number you had, is brought back to 500 because thats what is set
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: and why do you want that number to start off where you currently are ... if your tracking qps with the script to and trying to average it will be all messed up
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nexxus Tech: No, look, your forgetting an important part.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nexxus Tech: When you log on, it reads your script and it says to... what.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nexxus Tech: SET TO 500!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nexxus Tech: right?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: okay okay .. back up.  i am going to do this :  quest 501 killed X and got 20 QPs, yeah me!!!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you want something on the order of SetVariable ("xp", GetVariable ("xp") + 1)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: next time i do a quest .. that number will be. 502 and so on.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: with me so far?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nexxus Tech: right.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err you want something on the order of SetVariable ("quests", GetVariable ("quests") + 1)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that is a MUSHclient variable, and not a script variable
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the MUSHclient variable is saved with the world file
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nexxus Tech: I know, but I want him to see it that way Abe
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: .... ummm... 
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you just use the trigger you have to see quest rewards, and have the quests + 1 line as an action of that trigger
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nexxus Tech: What does your trigger/script look like right now Zuellier? We cant really guess what you have written down. Its hard to debug something you cant see you know?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: more conceptual in terms of debugging.  so, if i have local variable X and i save that variable as 10.  next time i log into MUSH, it's still 10?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nexxus Tech: That still depends on how you get X.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: x = 10 ... :)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on what definition of local var you mean
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, next time you log in, x is undefined
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nexxus Tech: Then when you get x = 500 later,
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nexxus Tech: and relog in, x will = 10 again
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=8411&page=999
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that page details doing exactly what you want, but for "mobs killed"
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and was written by the guy that wrote MUSHclient itself
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's lots of screenshots and walkthroughs
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: aye. reading.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nexxus Tech: Sweet, gonna steal that link myself if ya dont mind :)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's using the plugin wizard to create a plugin to do it, complete with "save state" for multisession
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nexxus Tech: oh god
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: be back... 
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nexxus Tech: This is awesome. I gotta sleep though, I orginally came back to my laptop to say gnite, but found this question interesting.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, tinkering's always fun
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nexxus Tech: but the time has come! I must lay my eyes to rest! Good night guys
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Nexxus aye
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: enjoy
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: that is exactly what i'm looking for i think... it tells you how to save the state of variables between sessions... 
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: nifty. thanks Abe.  
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, pretty much the only thing you'd change is the trigger to be your "qps earned" trig
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: You can also post of the forums there.  Nick tends to respond within 24 hrs from what I've seen.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Err, post _on_ the forums...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's even quite familiar with Aard specifically
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Heh, yeah, just a lil bit.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: I can't wait for the next release, drag'able mini-windows.  Should be fun to work with.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: so i've seen. been looking at his quest/campaign mini window scripts and his plug-in script .. all good things.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Anyone used OpenSolaris yet?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: It's the first liveCD that booted on my new computer.. I'm trying to find out what sort of hardware support it has.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: anyone know if there is a listing of what is said by the questor like when you request a quest or complete or fail one? trying to create a capture for quest information and stuff...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's why it's good to keep logs
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if your computer saves what you see, you'll always be able to go back and look
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: which client?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all clients :-)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: using the mush client from the aard-website
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: use the quets miniwin from nick from the mushclient forums
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are many quest tracker scripts, you can see what they use as their  triggers if you don't want to just use a canned one
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ologn Tech: The command, again, to remove spare blank lines in mushclient is?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: this one i found to be quite enjoyable http://www.towerdefence.net/games-157-Planet_Defender.php
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: mis
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Starling spanks Scars playfully.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: ...it's a fun flash game, tho :P  for those of you who like those
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: I'm screwed......I tried to set up the dual OS I was talking about yesterday....I had linux already installed, I got an xp disk, it copied the installation files, get the message 'will now reboot, setup will continue etc'....when I reboot nothing happens...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you need to have xp installed first before linux
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: it had to take the boot flag from the linux partition so....it no longer boots automatically
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: why?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: anyone know of a way I can make it boot?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: even if its just to get rid of windows again and restore my old OS
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: which should still be there, untouched, on its own partition
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Shoot your computer with a .44 magnum.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: I have a boot disk meaning I can reach the recovery console....
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you'r eusing two drives, i hope
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: get a linux rescue disk and reinstall the boot loader
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: grub probably
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: no, I'm using one drive partitioned into 2
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: or even to scratch the linux OS and get the windows one to boot
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: I just want an OS back =(
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: which type of linux?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: I even tried messing around with some of the mbr options and bootcfg on the recovery console to no avail, I could have even made it worse
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: ubuntu, but getting another CD is not really an option right now
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: plus, the idea was, not to lose all my files
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/reinstall-ubuntu-grub-bootloader-after-windows-wipes-it-out/
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: Ok, but would I lose everything?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: shouldn't lose anything, just don't do anything that says format :)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: The OS should be in tact as far as I'm aware, I just need to flag that partition as the boot partition
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: ok cool, I'll take a look, thanks
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thranx Tech: but formatting is fun! :P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thranx Tech: yeah..don't do anything that says format
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: its taken me 6 hours to try and do this so far....all I've done is go backwards =( I should have never started
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: if you're not paving a path of destruction while you try to learn hwo to do things like this, you're doing something wrong
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: I just wish I wasn't learning out of necessity
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: the best lessons are the worst to go through :P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: fair enough, but you'll never forget it now
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: I've been stuck on this linux OS for over a year now =P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: just trying to help show you the up side
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: well...its gone now....*snickers*
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Unrequited Apathy sighs.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: so I can't get a dual boot unless I remove the linux I have installed first?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thranx Tech: what are you trying to dual boot?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you can still get a dual boot afterwards, you just need to read the documentation on grub and set up a grub entry for windows, <left as an exercise to you> \
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thranx Tech: It's not that hard, either.  A little bit of googling will help.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thranx Tech: Or you could run your Windows in a virtual machine...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: or ditch linux and install windows, and run linux in a virtual machine
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: that link will not help me, it starts with 'boot from the live CD' I don't have the live CD
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: I no longer have the ability to make a live CD, because the issue is on my main comp that has a CD burner
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thranx Tech: You will probably have to edit the menu.lst file manually, the.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thranx Tech: then.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: When I was installing windows, it told me that my linux partition would have to be flagged as not the main partition, but there would still be a way to boot from it by changing certain options
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: or at least, thats what I understood from it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: any ideas why my windows installation process would freeze? or how to fix that? even at the expense of my linux OS
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: format reinstall
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: but does that really guarantee a fix? seems to me it might be some sort of MBR issue
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thranx Tech: you're in the middle of installing windows?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: yes
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: it did the first part, copying the files to the windows directory
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: then gives the msg, comp will now reboot and continue after restart
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: upon restart, it checks for things to boot from, gets to the HD boot one, then freezes
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: can't you just ghost your linux stuff off and install everything from scratch?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: which is what made me think it could have something to do with the mbr
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thranx Tech: hmm...i'd probably format the windows partition and reinstall it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: tigernuts, I'm just wondering a) if that would even guarantee a fix, and b) why I have to do that when my linux OS is installed on a completely separate partition anyway
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: I already formatted that partition and reinstalled 3 times
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: same issue
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: I just don't want to delete all my linux files if absolutely necessary, there are a few things I need on there
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: if = unless
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you already said it was a boot loader issue - i agree, thats why you ought to ghost your linux off, and start from absolute scratch wth xp
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: what exactly do you mean by ghost it?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: back it up
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: I have no idea how to do that....
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: doesn't it serve as its own back up when its on a separate partition?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Windows likely wants to be the only program in a prime partition -- and is suggesting the LInux be moved to a logical drive in an Extended partition
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Unrequited Apathy sits down and thinks deeply. 
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Windows seeks to be extremely unfriendly with non-Microsoft OS 
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: I had a similar problem many years ago when I knew even less than I do know, an MBR clear seemed to fix it, is that possible in this case?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: not that I even remember how to do that atm
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: god, microsoft sucks
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: a MBR clear is going to act like an FDISK wipe ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: I don't know. I once installed linux before, removed it to install windows again, and it wouldn't install. I had to have some guy on a tech line tell me to do a MBR clear....I had no idea what it meant at the time, and still only have a marginal idea right now
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: for some reason, I thought in my head, assuming it all goes wrong, I could just boot again from my linux partition
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: although, it seems not....
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: now I'm left with a computer that does sweet FA
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thranx Tech: hmm....install linux on the other partition, copy everything from your current linux partition over, delete your current one and installwindows on that
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: what difference would that make?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: there are 4 entries in a standard MBR  -- Windows (W98se at least) wants a whole entry for the Prime-boot and another entry for an Extended partition -- Windows accepts more than one Prime Dos/Windowes partition, but not two Extended partitions on the same physical drive 
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: yeah, I figured that was why it told me during windows installation that the partition would be 'flagged inactive'
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: i.e the linux partition would. To allow windows to be the main
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: and if you want to mutlt-boot to ibm OS2, there may be more squabbling about who gets what
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: I'm guessing if I just format everything on my half complete windows installation partition grub won't magically reappear....?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: my floppy drive is also screwed so I can't even use my partition magic floppies
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: I just don't get it, I even went into the recovery console and bootcfg tells me there is only 1 windows installation and that is the one it'll boot from
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: it just doesn't boot, at all
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: but it seems to me everything is already in place...I just find it hard to believe there is not a simple way of getting one of the two OS to boot
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: after a few years, floppy drive collect dust and cease to work properly
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: even worse these days as people don't use em
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: Yeah, this comp is over 6 years old ^^
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: And you don't wanna know how old the one I'm now stuck on is
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: I swear it took me over 20 mins to boot this thing up
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Apathy:  Built in the 1500's?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: does your NIC support fastethernet?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: uhm....
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: I'm not entirely sure what that is, but there is the option to network boot
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: also, those old floppies lose their ability to be formatted, or perhaps the old floppy drive loses the ability to format floppies
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: fastethernet is 100mbps and faster, "ethernet" NICs were at 10 mpbs
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: I connect to my network at 10mbps
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: if thats what you are asking.....so no, it probably doesn't support that
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: My friend's computer was built in the 3rd century BC.  Aliens visited the earth and dropped it off.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: They also dropped me off, marooning me on this backwater planet :(
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: Starling get them to drop me a new PC
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: This one is probably going out the 12th floor window
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if you own a zap utility, you may change the MBR to boot what you want -- but that is tedious and not an instant choice at bootup
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I don't think they'll talk to me.  They marooned me for a reason ;)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Linux usually supplies software that permits multi-boot
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: yeah, if I'd only known that before, maybe I would have tried a different method
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: You can post to tech board, also.  I've gotten lots of help with computer-related things that way.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: The annoying thing is, I have only 1 power lead for the processor, so, I have to turn this one off to try and fix the other one
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Worth a try if nobody is currently online who can help solve your problem.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: and like I said, this takes around 20 mins to boot it seems
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: does the computer you are on now have a usb port?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: yeah, but usb 1.0 only I believe
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: create an ubuntu live usb key and you can use that instead of the cd
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: as in a memory usb stick?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yeap
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: ah, yeah, now maybe thats a plan
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: the annoying thing is, it just takes me back to square one
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: my ultimate goal was, to either have a dual boot OS, or have xp back in place of linux
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Focus on recovering your PC for now, imo.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: I like linux but, I have so many games I can't play
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Then figure out how to do a dual-boot setup properly ;)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: Like I say starling, I have been stuck on linux OS for over a year, not out of choice
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: I had to attempt to fix it at some point
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: and now I have, and my computer is screwed
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Shrug, I'd post a note to tech board and explain the issue and see if you get an answer.  Chances are you will, if even I get answers to questions dumber than that ;)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Ghost Of Timeghost Tech: what's the problem?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Speaking of people who know a thing or two....
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: My computer won't boot....it was on linux, I attempted to install windows, it supposedly installed, but now nothing boots
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: they are on separate partitions
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Ghost Of Timeghost Tech: boot sector screwed?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: was planning to set up a dual boot OS, it didn't work
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: I'm not sure, I thought it might be something to do with the MBR
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: basically the windows installation gets to the point where the files are copied to the installation directory, says it will continue after reboot, reboots, then doesn't continue
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Ghost Of Timeghost Tech: Windows installed AFTER another OS never allowed dual-boot - perhaps different now, but I doubt it. Anyway, a solution exists and is simple
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Ghost Of Timeghost Tech: do you have the Linux DVD around still?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: Yeah, I found out it won't install after another OS just now from someone =/
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: something must boot ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: naw, thats part of the problem
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Ghost Of Timeghost Tech: all you need to do is re-write the boot sector
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: nothing boots, apart from boot disks
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Ghost Of Timeghost Tech: if you have the Linux installation DVD, it'll kick you into the installation screen. That has a rescue option
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: I was messing around in the recovery console from the windows boot disks, messing around with all the boot options. Really did not know what I was doing though
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Ghost Of Timeghost Tech: Windows won't boot other OSs
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: Gah, all I have is the windows installation disk
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: And now I have lost the ability to make another linux CD
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: because the broken computer is the only one with a burner
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Ghost Of Timeghost Tech: use the Linux CD/DVD to go into rescue mode - that allows you to re-write the boot sectors. Check whether you set up LILO or GRUB tho
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: see? linux brings pain and misery
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: never trust microsoft as to multiboot options -- microsoft seeks to prevent other OS from being used
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: Like I say....no CD =(
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Ghost Of Timeghost nods at Xyliz.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Ghost Of Timeghost Tech: Apathy, but you installed Linux from one, right?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: Nods, then gave the CD back.....
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: Well, at least that is a solution, I just wish there was another one, since it could take me a week or two to get hold of another CD
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Ghost Of Timeghost Tech: then take it back - or install only winblows. M$ never tolerated stuff it doesn't own - you need to install Windows FIRST. OR re-write the boot sector at the end - Linux install CDs/DVDs do that.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: Is there a way of rewriting the boot sector my self?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Ghost Of Timeghost Tech: not really.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Ghost Of Timeghost Tech: unless you dream in binary and know the sector-length of your HDD layout by heart
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Can't he download something to do it?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: any boot/live cd
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: Supposing it was the MBR though, and I delete linux to install XP first (which I am trying to avoid if at all possible), will that necessarily mean xp will then correctly install?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Ghost Of Timeghost Tech: Starling - not really, except for a small linux CD. M$ doesn't even know what a filesystem is outside of NTFS and FAT
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why should it?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: xp will install, but you'll lose linux bootloader and possibly the system
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: A linux CD would rewrite the boot sector to make linux installable, but how would I change the boot sector to make xp install, is what I'm getting at
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: or, to make linux bootable rather
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Ghost Of Timeghost Tech: you already have both installed
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: well...it says its copied the files to the windows installation directory....does that mean its actually installed?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Don't suppose simply pulling the hard drive, copying it, reinstalling it, and then reinstalling windows is a viable solution?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: its almost as if it pauses half way through the installation
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: doesn't continue after reboot like it should
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: redhat had a dual boot option back in 2003
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Ghost Of Timeghost Tech: your boot sector needs the write information written to it, that is all. All Linux installation disks I worked with do a proper detection of ALL OSs in rescue mode - so you get the multi-OS-boot capability restored in seconds
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you can dual boot with any linux system
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Ms supports ntfs fat32 fat16 fat12.  Linux seeks to support every filesystem
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: so say for arguments sake, I didn't care about my linux OS and just wanted xp again, what would I do?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: recovery cd, "map" command, find system device, type FIXBOOT "Drive letter:", then FIXMBR "device name" - where device name is your hard drive from the map command
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: throw in a xp cd and let it nuke everything
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's good at it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: but thats exactly what I've been trying to do....
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: sorry, just arrived
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: the installation freezes after reboot like I said
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: copies the files to the installation directory, says it will continue after reboot
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Ghost Of Timeghost Tech: Apathy - if you don't care about data or Linux, fire up the Windows installer, tell it to wipe your HDD clean and install
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the xp install?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Ghost Of Timeghost Tech: you shouldn't be installing Windows AFTER another OS
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: is it picking up the cd first or the MBR?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: kill the linux, kill the LInux, kiiiilll the LIIIIIIInux
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: I've tried both, the cd, AND the MBR
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Ghost Of Timeghost Tech: Windows will only write the MASTER boot record at the very end
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: maybe you need fdisk command prior to install
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: i.e, letting it pick up both
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: a new hard drive is cheap these days, cheaper than the labour
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: but you can use the recovery console to write the mbr now and then let the install continue
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: probably damaged windows cd. it never checks itself
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: I mean, I'm not even sure if it needs the MBR for that stage of installation after its copied the files but not necessarily 'installed'
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: so I could end up nuking linux and having the same problem
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: if it doesn't boot up after copying the files
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: then I'd be at square -2
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Ghost Of Timeghost Tech: but by writing it's bits before it can ruin the boot record Linux set up. I always fixed that by going into Linux-save-me-mode and telling it to fix the boot records. That was 8 years ago - things are way more advanced now. Not on the M$ side tho.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: which is what I'm mainly worried about
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: in linux we don't say square -2
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: we say square #FFFFFE
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: rofl
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: well, actually I suppose it would be square -1 ^^, since that is 2 before square 1
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Ghost Of Timeghost Tech: Apathy - Windows reboots proper a few times during the install
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: and having linux on my HD would cause those reboots to screw up?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yes
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yes
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: how?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: thats really the question I'm ultimately trying to ask before I go and nuke linux
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: it could be a hardware conflict,
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Ghost Of Timeghost Tech: to reboot back to the installer, it needs the MBR set up to boot it. There's a trick though - it doesn't want to ruin the WHOLE MBR in case something goes wrong. But it only cares if you have Windows installed to start with.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: don't nuke linux, just use the recovery console and rewrite the mbr, http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314058
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: if the issue is MS locking on install it could be a hardware conflict
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Ghost Of Timeghost Tech: Bast - that renders the Linux-set portion of the HDD unusable - reformat or use the LINUX recovery to get dual-boot back
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: So basically microsoft doesn't care about my MBR because I'm a traitor who installed linux? =P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Ghost Of Timeghost Tech: yes Apathy
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yes, but once windows is installed, he can use a livecd to setup grub for both linux and windows
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why should they? not their fault
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Ghost Of Timeghost Tech: they only consider options where you have Windows installed, and want Windows installed. Always been that way.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: of course it's not microsofts fault. it's the users fault who installed a non-ms product
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: how dare you?!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's the user's fault who installed their products in the wrong order
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: to be precise
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: I installed a non-ms product because my ms product stopped booting in the first place =P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Ghost Of Timeghost Tech: Bast - he already has Windows essentially installed. He needs a live or install CD of linux to get dual-boot - the Windows install will finish fine if the boot record is fixed.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: which i just told him how to do with the recovery console from the cd
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Ghost Of Timeghost Tech: Windows ruins boot records all the time - "I'm the only OS on the PC" is the philosophy
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the bootloa
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the bootloa
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the bootloa
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the bootloa
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the bootloa
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the bootloa
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the bootloa
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Starling peers intently at Seltsimees Dagnir.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if you've escaped from microsoft to linux, do not go back, stay free
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: So, I know I asked this earlier, but just to check. Is there no way of simply doing a MBR clear and then attempting to reinstall windows with my linux OS still intact, just not on the MBR anywhere...?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Ghost Of Timeghost Tech: Apathy, it's not that simple
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: as long as you don't touch the linux partition, your data is not going anywhere
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: btw, you were doing linux backups to CD/DVD of important informations ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Ghost Of Timeghost Tech: Windows needs partition X. Linux wants partition Y. That you have. The MBR is a completely separate and competitive matter.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: Lol, I made no backups because I figured, if my windows installation went wrong, I could just boot up linux again =P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: an optimist
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Ghost Of Timeghost Tech: if you're ready to junk everything on your HDD, install Windows, let it format half your drive, leave another half for Linux. Go through the install, Windows will crush your MBR just for itself happily.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: so just wipe entire HD, retry windows installation basically
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Ghost Of Timeghost Tech: then, when you get hold of that DVD again, install linux. Otherwise, just get hold of that DVD, go into rescue mode, and fix your boot sector.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: buy and install another harddrive -- keep the old harddrive to play with later
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Ghost Of Timeghost Tech: GRUB does the boot sector within 2-3 seconds, finding all other OSes
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: I vote for xyliz's route
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: Lol, if I could afford a HD I would =P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: use Grub to rescue your data on the old drive
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Ghost Of Timeghost Tech: and since GRUB is pretty much the standard in *nix bootloaders these days (replacing LILO), just about any Linux CD will get you back on track
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Ghost Of Timeghost Tech: Windows never let you dual-boot Linux or anything else. And never will, I suspect.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: while in Linux in the new harddrive, reinstall the old harddrive as a second physical harddrive -- use linux utilities to recover data from the second hardrive
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: Awesome, well, I think I know what I'm doing now for the most part. Thanks a lot all, you have been most helpful
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: I'm just gonna think for a bit whether I should wait a week or 2 to track down a live CD or just nuke everything ^^
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Starling spanks A Ghost Of Timeghost playfully.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Ghost Of Timeghost Tech: Apathy - just grab a proper install/Live CD and rescue your boot sector. You'll finish the Windows install and have dual-boot.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: But, didn't you say earlier that you are supposed to install windows OS FIRST?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: that was the only thing I didn't get about that option
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Ghost Of Timeghost Tech: let me explain a little better
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Ghost Of Timeghost Tech: if you install windows first, Linux next, Linux is the thing that takes care of the boot sector
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: did you give Windows enough room on the harddrive to install -- maybe Linux previously grabbed most of the harddrive, and the Windows installation ran out of harddrive ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Ghost Of Timeghost Tech: if you do like you did - install linux first, windows next - windows does voodoo with the boot sector. Since it doesn't even consider that another OS may be present, it ruins it pretty much. Leaving you in the situation you're in - Windows can't even reboot to finish the install.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snagandorf Tech: would it not be possible to install windows, and find a grub boot cd to just rebuild the boot sector?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: nah, there was LOADS of space xyliz, over 30GB per partition
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Ghost Of Timeghost Tech: BUT if you re-run GRUB setup from a linux CD, it'll fix your MBR - Windows will also chirp and continue the setup
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if both installs (XP and Linux) are new, then redo both in the proper order
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: so it IS possible to install in the wrong order, just not the best way of doing it?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yes
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Ghost Of Timeghost Tech: yes, it's fine to install in the wrong order - brings us back to your problem. You need to re-fix it with a *nix rescue CD/DVD
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: nods, I guess I should just be patient and track down a CD
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: if only I'd known before, as in a few hours ago, I could have burned one myself, no problem
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: ah well, lesson learned =P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ALWAYS keep a linux live cd at hand
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i bet ever nuts has one
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yes, for throwing at people
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: erm
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: and do backups 
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: got a couple, actually
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: actually, I've just thought, I have other distros lieing around....I guess that wouldn't help me now though
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nah, backups can be replaced with users tears
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: they can help you
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i bet they can install you new bootloader
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: they are not live CDs though
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what distros and what versions?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: uh, not certain without going through my collection of Cds, but definitely mandrake
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: hrm?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: mandriva 2008, ubuntu 7
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: at least one of them should offer you rescue mode with basic bash shell that you can use for installing grub/lilo
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ubuntu should be usable as live cd
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: haven't touched mandriva since version 8 (mandrake 8)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: Hmmm, might have left them at home actually, but I will take a look definitely
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and quick search brought up this - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: ah yes, ty, someone linked me to something similar earlier
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: I was still trying to avoid getting a CD at the point, but now I see it is the best option for me
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: at that*
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but i don't think this install method will detect your windows partition automatically
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you have to add ^title Windows XP ^rootnoverify (hd?,?) ^chainloader +1 to your grub.conf
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hd is probably 1,0
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: yeah I think the first link I got on the subject provides those details
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hm? didn't notice
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/reinstall-ubuntu-grub-bootloader-after-windows-wipes-it-out/ was the link I got
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, that's another one
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Unrequited Apathy rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustin Tech: trying to free as much memory on this computer as i can, i deleted programs i dont use, how else can i delete memory off this computer? without deleteing important data?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Memory or hard drive space?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: #rm -rf /
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustin Tech: Im downloading a game that takes like 8888 MB, and i need space.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustin Tech: not sure which it falls under....
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustin Tech: dont know #rm -rf / is
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: That would be hard drive space.  I don't know, just get rid of things you don't need.  Old windows update backups wastes a lot.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustin Tech: what about dump files? i got like 980k MB from those alone
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustin Tech: might me be the smaller term for MB... Kilo.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustin Tech: or something
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: lol @ 900k MB :D
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustin Tech: not too much knowledge on computers man, why i am asking for some help...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: don't delete system files. use add/remove to get rid of stuff you don't use
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Heh, what game are you installing?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustin Tech: WoW
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: check for audio/video/games that you don't need
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and that's it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustin Tech: i've done that, and i still dont have enough dag. it's crazy
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I knew it!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustin Tech: no other games are installed besides WoW atm
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you need a bigger hd then
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustin Tech: i've had wow on here before, but so much stuff has seem to piled up...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, i forgot about porn
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustin Tech: ha yeah, brother has had it for over a year now, wouldnt doubt it.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you can get a LOT of space free, if you delete porn
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustin Tech: are there some hidden files or something?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thranx Tech: You usually shouldn't be deleting hidden files unless you know what you're doing.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: probably, but they're hidden for a reason
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustin Tech: dag, crazy crazy crazy...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustin Tech: errr dang*
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magish Tech: Unless you made the hidden file or know EXACTLY what it's for, I wouldn't delete it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustin Tech: alright
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: if the hidden files are porn, you can delete them
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: if not, then don't
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: but if new porn gets worse,  the old porn may be worth keeping -- you are supposed to filter out and discard unwanted porn
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustin Tech: well i dont even know where to look for hidden files so. best leave it alone...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: did you clear the browser cache
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustin Tech: no, im glad you asked...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: alright. i give up.  i want to setup a trigger that matches on a single line from the output of myrank 6.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustin Tech: i saw that earlier
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: the idea is to pull out some of the numbers.  
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustin Tech: how do i do that?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but you're giving up so we don't have to help you, right?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: any ideas?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: naw.i give up bashing my head against the wall.. :)  time to ask questions.  my expression isn't quite right
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: zmud ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: i can't do this    match="^Zuellier     Touchstone   277    *    12487       0        96" - it doesn't match
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: MUSH.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: i don't even really want the middle numbers.. just the one number. 
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: that is nevcer going to work if a number preceeds the name
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: assuming that ^ is start of line 
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: the ^ means take all until here and start matching from here.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: #REGEX {^([0-9]+?)[)]\s([A-Za-z]+?)\s+?([A-Za-z]+?)\s+?([0-9]+?)\s+?([0-9]+?)\s+?([0-9]+?)\s+?([0-9]+?)$
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Anyone here with a PS3 connected to the net with a UTP cable?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: more like this - ^([0-9]+?)[)]\s([A-Za-z]+?)\s+?([A-Za-z]+?)\s+?([0-9]+?)\s+?([0-9]+?)\s+?([0-9]+?)\s+?([0-9]+?)$
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: that pulls in the whole line?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: regex is an eyesore
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hmm. it doesn't now. something's wrong
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but basically yes
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and all the values you want
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: ummm.. which is the marker for the value +? ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: one or more, not greedy
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: thanks. let me have give it a whirl
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: already tried. somethings wrong. my regexp skills are not the best
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: grab a cheatsheet. it should give you the basic idea
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: okay. gives me a direction. i wasn't going in this kind of direction.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ignore that for now. i'll make a working one
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Anyone here who can help me out with some connection problems between PS3 and UTP cable-router.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: this regexp stuff is kind of gross... 
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ok. got it working and it looks nicer
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ^(?:\s*)?(\d+)[)]\s([A-Za-z]+)\s+([A-Za-z]+)\s+(\d+)\s+(\d+)\s+(\d+)\s+(\d+)\s+(\d+)$
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: use of \d for decimals.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: or numbers.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you know how to get data from it?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: i'm passing to function xxx (name, line, wildcards) then... wildcards [n]
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: not sure that is how i get data from this however.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: %1 for num, %2 for name etc
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: in the same order as myrank
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: in the trigger.. it's match="blah blah here" .. yes?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it matches any line of myrank and you can pull the info with %1 etc
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you can just use num = %1 name = %2 etc
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: not inside of function i don't think? is different syntax.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you can put it in the value field
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: try out #say %1 is from clan %2 and has won %8 campaigns
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: then myrank 6 and it should echo you the info from it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: trying.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: make sure you tick 'perl regular expression' checkbox
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: ... ummmmm.. 
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: not seeing such an option... i see regular expressions. you mean that?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yes. you're using zmud, right?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: no. MUSH.  but the reg exp seem the same.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, k
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm not familiar with mush syntax
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but i the pattern works. just find a way to pull the values
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: the reg exp should be the same .. or very very close.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: they both use perl for that, so it works
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, almost forgot
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir slaps Xyliz.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: DING!  okay.. needed to add regexp="y" to the trigger for this to work.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: wake up, for a sec zuellier
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: awake
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir slaps Zuellier.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: there
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: for calling regexp gross and an eyesore :P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: excellent. thanks for the hand. now .. i just want the one line but i think i can get that part to work with a little massaging.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: is .. unfriendly. :)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unrequited Apathy Tech: ohhhh, I'm loving shoplifters insteaaaddd
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you want only your line?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: aye.  can get my name from GetInfo(3) i think... and then just replace.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nah
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: easier way?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ^(?:\s*)?(\d+)[)]\sZuellier\s+([A-Za-z]+)\s+(\d+)\s+(\d+)\s+(\d+)\s+(\d+)\s+(\d+)$
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: damn, that's cool.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: so if i understand this right. in order to pull apart this kind of string data, need to use regular expressions like this because of all of the space information.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: have to kind of point to where each variable is in the line.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you could probably do it with a regular trigger pattern, but it's not as elegant
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and it could start matching stuff you don't want to match
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: not anyway i could find.  was really dicey.  as you say, matched on strange stuff but i'm actually turning this on, using it and then turing it off . the trigger that is.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: actually, it will match all the other ranks as well, so that's a good idea
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: yeah, it would.  thanks for the help. this would have taken me ages to figure out.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it can be made multi-line so it would only match myrank 6
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i remember the days when nvidia were the newbs
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the consumer 3d battles were between Matrox and 3DFX
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir gives Tigernuts a shiny medal
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: damn right
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: is it wrong that my favourite Pink Floyd album is the one that nearly wasn't released under their name because it was written by only one of them solo?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: can anyone explain to me how to get a script onto mush? i have the script from gammons site but idk how to get it onto mush itself
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PowkrPegk' Mottle Tech: does anyone have probs with accelerate/haste with the Crimson/Ninja spellup scrip?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: how do i turn a bash script into a command.. i forgot. right now i have to type bash make fileinput i want to just type make input
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: google shebang
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: how do i remove anti-virus-1 from my computer? i cant uninstall and its not in my add/remove programs
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: thanks Yhogurk
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: anti-virus-1 is a virus. ;)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: o damn
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Hellfiend: http://www.2-spyware.com/remove-anti-virus-1.html
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: ok
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: that is just spyware doctor tho. it will tell me the problem is there then i cant remove it without paying
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: charneus it didnt even find it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Then google 'removing anti-virus-1' and try all remedies there.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: if i do that i am just gonna get more viruses
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: just learn to live with the viruses :)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Only because you're the dumbass who clicks on links that aren't safe. ;) Do you use Firefox?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: no
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: That's your problem.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: lol firefox has its issues too
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: firefox does the same thing
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Hellfiend - every browser will have it's problems, yes. But some have better securities. Not to mention, some have addons that make things a bit better, like Web of Trust.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: The reason I asked if you use Firefox, originally, was so that you could install WoT and then stay away from googled links that have the red ring.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: yeah firefox has firebug which makes things fun
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods at Global Menace.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i gound a good oe
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: the difference is that problems with IE are potentially more serious since it has its grubby fingers in every aspect of the OS
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: 'i gound a good oe' ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: google chrome ftw
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Bah to Google Chrome.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: a good one. but i have to pay to remove it. char u offered once to do a remote thing cud u do that>
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I don't know. You go around telling everyone you're a huge ass.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: well ok then
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Torunkes rolls his eyes in disgust at Alt. Helpa Charneus.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: maybe you should go around telling everyone char is a huge ass instead :P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: If you can get 10 people to say I should, then I'll think about it. If you pay me 10 tps, then I will.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: where do mothers come into play here
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: dont have 10 tps and ur the one being ahypocrit about being an ass. u will either help or not im not gonna beg and plead
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Hellfiend: I'm not being an ass. I never said my services were free. :P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: very true its my own dumbass fault ill try and get it figured out
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Well, you ARE the one who continues to visit sites that inject malware and virii into your system.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: pr0n
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: hey hellfiend, clear our your temp files
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: it may help, then again, i am just now catching onto this conversation
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It won't help. :P At least, not with his current situation.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: the malware writer would be doing a real shoddy job if simply clearing out temp would get rid of it!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: new hard drive? or are we talking about infected registry as well
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: check history 40 or something
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: ever thing i look up says to use spyware doctor and it makes me pay to remove it. so i guess im screwed up the ass her
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: here*
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: maybe you should wait for tigernuts to get on and ask him?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: ok
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: he should charge for consultation as well
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i found out were its hiding. its only in temporary internet files but i cleared them out and its still there and its not registering on any of my AV anymore
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus chuckles politely.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Delete the folder, or rename it to _Temporary Internet Fildes
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Files*
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: If you can't delete the folder, then reboot into safe mode and delete it from there.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i cant find it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: now its in the registry keys
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunsele Tech: it seems that Help for the Aardclient is not and will never be supported for 2007?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Not sure what you mean...you mean the helpfile plugin that's included with the Aard MUSHclient?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunsele Tech: yes. 
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: And by "2007", you mean what?  An old version of MUSHclient?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunsele Tech: no. i mean windows 2007
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunsele Tech: or "vista"...sorry, i am not a computer person
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Ah.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei shrugs helplessly.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunsele Tech: ok...fair enough :)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Should just be able to disable the plugin, though.  You can always just pause the scrolling while you're reading them.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunsele Tech: Leinei...if you are responding to my question...i can't access the help files. i jumped through all the hoops offered to me and finally got a message that the support for this problem was 'no longer' offered
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: there is a post in the mush forums re mushclient help on vista...  you can DL the old help reader exe from MS or get html format docs
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you go to "files->plugin", you can click on the plugin, and disable it.  Then the helpfiles will just be displayed in your main output window.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunsele Tech: ok. thanks very for your help, y'all
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: does anyone know why i have 10088 songs in my itunes but only 10087 on my ipod?  how do i find this missing song?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Blackdragon Tech: Anyone have an idea, why when i page myself, my computer doesnt 'beep'? The volumes turned up.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone here used ultrasonic cleaning tanks?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone know the correct tolerance on psu voltages, +/-5% 10%?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: usually 5%
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: an overvoltage has about 5%, undervoltage you can squeak by with close to 10%...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: hrm, occasional oddness not firing up, only thing i've noticed is +5V is at 4.82
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: providing you're not running the absolute latest processor and graphics card
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nah, it's an old retiree
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: what's the oddness in not firing up? you should be fine at 4.82...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: just occasionally when you reboot, it doesn't get to post
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: can't -quite- put my finger on it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: once in a while you'll get a PSU that doesn't just out-and-out fail all at once but dinks around like this for a while.. it's maybe one in 50, but it happens. They're pretty cheap as a part unless you need 500W+, well worth replacing it and being sure its good.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: probably have an old one kicking around somewhere
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: not too difficult to set an old one on the one that's in there and connect its wires instead of the current one, if you don't mind leaving the box open for a few days to be 100% sure that's the issue before changing it out
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hatchling aerie
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: mis
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: -5V and 5VSB are a little beyond normal tolerance
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: lol u werent on when i needed your help earlier tigernuts
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: got ant-virus-1 charneus finally did a remote removal
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: how many tps did it cost you :)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: damn, ifpeople are offering tps for remote virus removal, i'll have to start
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: not offering, being charged ...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: in zmud anyone know a way to unhighlight rooms (through script) after using PATHHIGH
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Skull peers around himself intently.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Skull tries to test his mic.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir raises his fist and asks you to speak into the microphone.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skull Tech: Anyone have an old copy of a Mushclient script for keeping track of quests/kills/gold/levels etc... or know where I can get one.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: google is awesome
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skull Tech: google sucks rat turds.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cult of Rok Tech: I wonder what rat turds taste like.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah. except for the fact that all you need is on the first page
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skull Tech: like rat turds.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: can you excplain to us why google sucks?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i, for one, welcome our new overlords
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Skull points excitedly!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skull Tech: just trying to get a rise in you, are you making a tent ? I see it worked =)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skull Tech: and I still dont see what im looking for, in google.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir THWAPS Skull for being a moron.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm not going to start pasting links for you, if you can't use a search engine yourself
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: any regular expression gurus around?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: just ask your question
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: okay. attempting to match the following.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: Quests Complete  : [   *]  Quests Failed: [     7]  Gquests Won : [     0]
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: i have the following expression.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: ^([A-Za-z]+)\s+:\s[\s+(\d+)]\s+([A-Za-z]+):\s[\s+(\d+)]\s+([A-Za-z]+)\s+:\s[\s+(\d+)]$
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: so... what am i missing?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humpton Tech: what client are you in?  do you have to use a regular exp?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: MUSH. ummm.. any way of matching that string will work. i just want the quest complete number.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Izocinoc Tech: first of all, your expression should be much more strict
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humpton Tech: sorry, don't know MUSH
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Izocinoc Tech: Match against "Quests Complete" instead of [A-Za-z]+
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: have you tried letting Mush convert the line for you?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Izocinoc Tech: but it looks like your actual problem is that you don't escape any special characters (back-slash, colon, etc.)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: as with any programming exercise, start with something small then build it up, so with regex start with something really generic then work your way to something more specific, noting when it starts to fail matching
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: um.. \ escapes a character such as : yes?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Izocinoc Tech: yes.. I can't remember if you need it for a colon
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Izocinoc Tech: but you definitely do for [ and ]
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ^Quests Complete\s+[:]\s[[]\s+(\d+)[]]\s\sQuests\sFailed:\s[[]\s+(\d+)[]]\s\sGquests\sWon\s[:][[]\s+(\d+)[]]\s\s
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: probably an error there somewhere
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: will check after clipping my nails
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: i need the [] around the special characters?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: [] missing from one :
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: [] mathes the exact symbol
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: ah. that was missing. the cheat sheet i have doesn't mention that.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it has other uses too
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: in case you are wondering, this line is a better match choice for the quest complete number because this one doesn't depend on needing the character name.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: using whois.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: this works - ^Quests Complete\s+[:]\s[[]\s*(\d+)[]]\s+Quests\sFailed[:]\s[[]\s*(\d+)[]]\s\sGquests\sWon\s[:]\s+[[]\s*(\d+)[]]$
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: use of * intead of + ... why?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: zero or more vs one or more
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: ah so.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: if you want to match a bots whois, there might be no spaces
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: actually, i think everyone has a space there, but it makes no difference
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: certainly works.  now studying it a bit so i can make my own.  thanks once again.  i assume that if i want to not be quite so hard locked into the last two text bits i can use [A-Za-z] to match those.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: sure
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: those change depending on if someone has failed a quest or not for example.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: but the lines always start with quests complete.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: this line is static
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I thought that we settled that it was silly for you to trigger on whois at all in the first place :P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: doing an entire whois instead of just a quests_done + 1 when you're already triggering on the quest complete message is extra work for both you and your computer for zero benefit
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir nods at you in agreement. 
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: this loads once when the plugin is installed.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, but it loads for no reason
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: still need that starting number at some point somewhere.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so SET IT
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm happy to write even the pointless patterns, since i want to practice :P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's no reason to write a trigger for getting one number, once in your lifetime
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just set it yourself
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tigernuts pats you on your head. 
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: watch your blood pressure, claud
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you want to account for it ever getting off, then have a macro of "set-quests where you type "adjust-quests 577" to set your quests to 577
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, except have the macro names match, since I changed what I was calling it 1/2 way through ;-)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: or use it for setquests alias and make it easy :)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and nod dag...writing to learn to write is different than writing to get something working
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i have an easier way of finding out how many quests i've done
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's trying to get it working, but wasting his time on something absolutely useless
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: ah see. my solution does it all for you.  no need to set anything
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: zuellier, your "solution" is silly...and doesn't work yet :P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it does, but abe is just trying to tell you that it's not worth the effort
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: works great.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: Sounds like a personal preference to me :p
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it worked great then why were you still asking how to write it?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: Tigernuts, how are you finding out how many quests you have done?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: cause i'm curious.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: whois tigernuts
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: tells you right there
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You snicker softly.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: just do whois.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: even quicker
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: anyways. i wanted an auto way to get this number rather than having to set it.  could just set it, yes.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: people just like to make things more difficult than they actually are
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: zuellier, the point of having your variable be a MUSH variable instead of a script variable was so that it would save across sessions
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: once you made that change, that made it so that the variable needed to be set once in its lifetime...you spent HOURS on getting that trigger, when you only had to type a 1-line command once ever in your lifetime
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the point of scripts is to make life easier, not harder ;-)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: google "rube goldberg" ;-)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunsele Tech: i am having trouble making any trigger work on the aard mushclient. i can't access the help files on my fancy vista 2007 system. any suggestions on finding a post about this subject?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: thanks for the reg expression help Dagnir.  i've learned something nifty.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the full helpfiles are on the www.mushclient.com, or you can install the help viewer so that other programs that use the standard windows helpfiles will work too
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunsele Tech: thanks
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=6EBCFAD9-D3F5-4365-8070-334CD175D4BB
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which happened to be the very first hit when googling for help viewer vista
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunsele Tech: well, it would not occurred to me to google viewer, thanks again for you help
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: my windows and such are oversized and misproportioned and i cant see anything correctly how do i fix it?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Izocinoc Tech: hire a carpenter
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: lol seriously tho
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Izocinoc Tech: or type initaard, if you're using the aard mushclient
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: it doesnt work. i cant get to the bottow of my aarwold window. and im speakkking all windows not just mush
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: wtf my big map and stats windows are staying blank. mush btw
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: how do i change the font size on mush?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: has anyone heard of DFS replication corrupting roaming profiles before?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: and don't start in with the windows sucks crap. we're all aware.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Windows sucks.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: windows sux
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: except i use windows so...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: on a related note i just passed my second MCITP exam on Thurs :-p
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: well, MCTS exam
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aterius Tech: Challenge to you eshoppers...find me an store online that actually has and will ship out immediately the Asus 1000HE...black....ready?  GO!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: new egg
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: to where
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: newegg.com sucks
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aterius Tech: negative, and CONUS
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Talleron chuckles politely.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: You mean ship today, on saturday?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aterius Tech: well, yeah....
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: ...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: Good luck.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aterius Tech: or at least won't take 2 weeks to ship..
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: has it actually been released yet? its listing on asus's own website still says it "will" be available in blue or black
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aterius Tech: yeah some store got limited stock, some forums i've read have people showing off pics 
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: stores having it in stock does NOT mean it's released...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: stores get inventory before they're allowed to sell
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the press release from feb 9th says "available immediately for preorder"...how's that for doubletalk :P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it lists http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=6297967631 as the official place to preorder, and that page says it will be available soon
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omatu Tech: anyone know why would i get lag when i use abbreviations for commands?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cult of Rok Tech: Your client?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omatu Tech: it is usually ok, just seems to be happening this morning
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: im getting bad send lag last hour or so
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omatu Tech: i changed all my buttons to full word commands and that seems to have fixed it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: weird that works for me too
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: from that official facebook announcement thread, posted by asus, if you want your 1000HE quick, your best option is to purchase it from amazon because they will receive the largest amount of units. they will receive about 15 times more than other etailers.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aterius Tech: How could I go about preordering it but getting the 25 discount
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: didja read the page?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: http://xkcd.com/217/
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://xkcd.com/230/
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: anyone here familiar with fable modding or a utility that will compress something to a *.wad file ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: porno sometimes produces a wad
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: I thought that was a load ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: wad load same diff
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: speaking of a wide load how are u habasi
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hellfiend winks at Habasi.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: anyone know what the accelerator is for minus on the numpad?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: on mushclient sorry
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Accelerator?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: yeah, I want to reassign the key in my config: Accelerator( "Alt+NumPad1", "open d" )
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: for example
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Either SUB or MIN, I think.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I forget. Let me see. :P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Try Subtract
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: substract works, ta, thanks!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Surprised 'substract' worked when Rathik said 'Subtract' 
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Er, :P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: the Accelerator command has a built in spell checker
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus grins evilly.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: Anyone online to help with a harddrive issue?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: My WAN IP is my modem? Packet loss pinging WAN IP from LAN means there is a problem on my end before the cable connection or not necessarily?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: depends
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: pinging your LAN address is really waht you should do
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: should either be 192.168.x.x or 10.x.x.x
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: or 172.16.x.x
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: if you see 169.254.x.x that's APIPA and you have no DHCP service
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: n
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: LAN is fine. Internet is bad. I see no reason to ping the LAN address.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: then its obviously not your network
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: So, the WAN IP isn't necessarily the modem? It might a piece of equipment at the ISP?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: yeah it depends on how the assign ips at your ISP
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: some ISPs assign an internal network address, some use public IPs
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: try pinging your dhcp server and your mail servers with that ISP and see if you get packet loss
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: anyone have the pattern for when someone can take revenge on you?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: k self
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: like PlayerA can take revenge on you for 15 minutes! or something?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: To see it, type "kill self".
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: kill self shows me what it looks like when someone attacks me, not when i attack someone
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doog Tech: using zmud, what is the command to reset the spells to the char you are using now?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Depends on what script/plugin you're using, I would think.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not a zmud thing, it's a script thing
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: generally, you want to create separate settings/worlds for your different characters
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doog Tech: i have been using spellupresetfull  but for some reason it isnt working now?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doog Tech: hmmm...just typed spellup and it started my casting. never did that before 
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: lol
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's the MUD doing it, not your script
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it started by saying "queued commands" or similar
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doog Tech: yes thats it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's an in-MUD spellup command now
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: thats a mud command
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doog Tech: huh....does it recast if it fails?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doog Tech: it did using the other command. this is weird
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: no just cast it several time it wont cast things that already affect u
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: doing spellup 3 times usually covers it all
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's meant to be basic for newbs, not to replace the advanced scripts out there
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: how cud a script be any more useful
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: doog, it probably didn't recast, but you probably have a recast trigger in your spellup script
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doog Tech: just strange is all...never did this before
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so while you didn't use your spellup script to spellup, the script still "helped out" the in-MUD command
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hellfiend, most of the spellup scripts are much more useful
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: can someone tell me where i can find one cuz this spellup is getting crappy with so many
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doog Tech: it started out saying The fate of the Conquered is Sealed
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are ways to cast your spells to make them more effective that are cumbersome to emulate with the spellup command
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doog Tech: or i burped and passed out lol
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: ways such as...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and as doog mentioned, recasting on lost concentration
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magish Tech: Like casting haste before Wriath form, so you get the dex bonus from haste
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Magish.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: well idk how to write a script so i wud like to know where i can find one
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: casting your int/wis/luck stuff before other spells
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: some scripts also keep you spelled up, you don't have to type anything
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doog Tech: care to share? :0
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: now that i wud really like
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: what client do you use?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as soon as one spell wears off, and it's possible to cast, it'll cast it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: mush
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Check the forums Hellfiend
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doog Tech: zmud
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: There's a spellup plugin that Nick Gammon made for Aardwolf
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i cant get any of my plugins to work
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: for zmud, you can go to the crimson website and use ninja's
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the guy that wrote MUSH itself wrote such a spellup script for aard
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i know who nick gammon is
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doog Tech: ill check it out..think i still have the website saved
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then go to www.mushclient.com, click search, type "aardwolf spellups plugin" and his is the first
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: I CANT USE PLUGINS my mush wont let me
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes you can, but only if you actually let people know what the problem is
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: Seems to let you use caps ok, though, so that's good.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: it wont intialize the plugin it gives all this tehcnical crap that im too stupid to understand
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: didn't ask you to understand it, just say it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: Line   88: Error parsing script (problem in this file)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so your automap doesn't work, bigmap doesn't work, channels don't show in the channels tab?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: those are all plugins
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: everything works except when i try and add one
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what plugin is giving that error?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: ok nothing i add works
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doog Tech: woo! crash and burn lol
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: the campaign plugin
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there isn't a "the" campaign plugin...what one
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: the nick gammon one
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: The miniwindow campaign plugin?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to help -> about MUSHclient
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: yes
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you probably don't have a new enough MUSHclient
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what version is listed?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: it says 4.33 i just downlaoded a newer one
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: miniwindows came in with 4.34...the aard site has 4.33
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there, now you can't say that "I CAN'T USE PLUGINS!"
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i just downlaoded 4.37 tho
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: At least he's not claiming to be unable to read helpfiles, unlike certain notable individuals.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, the helpfile viewer plugin in the aardmush doesn't work with the aardmush :P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: *cough* dimm *cough*
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because it uses miniwindows too
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I think it just uses the notepad, if I'm not mistaken...which I might be.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Never actually used it.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I still use zmud 5.55 ;)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: it used notepad yes
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: im gonna poste the exact error mesasge on notes what board shud i poste it on and who to so that u guys can see what it says is wrong and how i can fix it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: the tech board
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: to whom?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: all
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, the very top of the page with nick's campaign plugin starts by saying it needs at least 4.34, with a link to d/l it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: sometimes the things in plain sight are the hardest to see
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i cant poste the problem aarwolf closes the connection everytime i try
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: post it in increments
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: actually... wait.... that probably means its a REALLY long message
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: here's a thought, uninstall mushclient, go out and get the newest client and start fresh
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, so copy a dozen lines, past them, copy another dozen, paste them, etc
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars starts-3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937510582097
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars continues-306647093844609550582231725359408128481117450284102701938
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars continues-4944592307816406286208998628034825342117067982148086513282
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: just go to pastebin.com, paste in the stuff and put the url here
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that works too :-)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: its on the mushclient forums its the miniwindow cmpaign
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: this one? http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=8815&page=999
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: i meant paste the error in pastebin.com so we can know what the error is
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: and mush won't let you import a plugin that requires a version that is greater than the one you have
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: ok makes sense
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: well thanks for the help but i got 2 go
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you install the MUSH you downloaded yet?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: yeah
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnourt Tech: I've installed MUSH, but when coming back to zMUD, I've been seeing opening and closing {help} tags for help files.  My map also has these tags, and it shows exits as well.  Is this an Aardwolf setting?  If so, how can I disable it?  Thanks =) 
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Type tags off?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, it is...you can turn off all tags by typing "tags off"
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Yeah, tags off
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnourt Tech: Ah, awesome.  Thanks, guys!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daniiel Tech: anyone recommend a mud client for apple computers (PPC)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: tf is popular for macs
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: you should be able to use any unix mud client
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: check out sourceforge and freshmeat
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerillium Tech: hello?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silvia Tech: In Zmud, is there a way to sync the tick timer automatically?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: #ts
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silvia Tech: thanks
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: so trigger on tick message #ts 30
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silvia Tech: Hmm... any way to get rid of the message :)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: trigger a #gag as well?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: #GAG
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: you can stop echoing zmud system messages but it stops them all, its in settings
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silvia Tech: Thanks again. I suppose I should have tried before asking, but I didn't think it would gag a system message.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Binnesman Tech: i am trying to create a macro in the mushclient but i get a failed error when i hit f1 
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why do people use that garbage, anyway?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Binnesman Tech: the mushclient is garbage
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Don't pay attention to Tigernuts, Binnesman. People have their own opinion about different clients.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and you're denying me mine
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: untick   file|global prefs|general|F1,F6 are macros
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Tigernuts, I'm not denying you your opinion. I just told him not to pay attention to you. ;)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's the same thing
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Binnesman Tech: tigernuts what client do you like
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: prefer zmud
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Ok, Tigernuts. I'll rephrase it. Binnesman, ignore Tigernuts. He doesn't like MUSHclient, and therefore thinks it's garbage. But you're free to feel how you want to feel. Don't think that Tigernuts is the only opinion that matters. :P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Binnesman Tech: i also use zmud wanted to see how this compared
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that is still wrong, charneus
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus looks around and whistles innocently.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Binnesman Tech: I like the graphical interface this has
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: how about "Tigernuts prefers Zmud. Feel free to form your own opinion"
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You take away all my fun.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: how about tigernuts likes windows, now you know what his opinions are worth :)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i like windows xp, that's not the same thing
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It's still Windows. *inno*
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: holy war kgo
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: thats the same difference as saying of someone who likes the Mustang "They like cars"
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i like cheese
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well i need a dump then get to work, i'll spar with you later
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Binnesman Tech: i just downloaded cmud how can i get the stats information screen at the bottom to go away?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Binnesman Tech: how do you get the stats line at the bottom of cmud to go away?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: statmon
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: is there anyway to sort the affects command by time remaining?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Any openSUSE users here?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Which zypper package is it that has C headers and gcc?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i have sucsessfully convinced yet another soul to move on to the great power that is linux.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: and failed my spelling class
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Heh. If your name was spelled 'correctly' I'd say 'That's like moving someone from the light to dark side of the force!'
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerillium Tech: hi i have a question... 
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Go for it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerillium Tech: in final class of academy it says i'm allowed to quest every 30 minutes, but not do botting, is there anyway i can set up an idle trigger? w/o gitting in trouble?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: What client do you use?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerillium Tech: mush
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Read the rules.  Idle triggers are fine.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerillium Tech: how .. exactly do i set up an idle trigger .. =D
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnistar Tech: good question
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you can use nick's miniwindow plugin, it will do a timer for you
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magish Tech: Idle triggers are fine, so long as they don't spam anything. You can just trigger on "Your eyes glaze over.", and have it send a newline.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Hit ctrl + shift + 8
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Then click add, in the trigger line put Your eyes glaze over.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: And for the 'send' box you can just put 'look'
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: or glance
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnistar Tech: thanks
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerillium Tech: thx guys :)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i desperately need to replace my dvdrw
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Ruined your old one burning too much pr0n?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: no such thing
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nah, just it seems to require 100% cpu effort to run it. Might try just replacing the burning software first incase it's that
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i had a hardware failure today
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it was a standard mains cable, think the fuse went plop
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: is it true that american appliances still have no plug-fuse and no earth line?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: used to hate that with the stupid US power socket, plug always used to give out a big zappy electrical flash whenever i plugged my lappie in when in the US
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thentias Tech: does anyone know how to put ftalk into a seprate window so I dont miss it when im battling?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thentias Tech: I have the downloadable client right of the website
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: anyone know anything about laptop screens coming in nearly black and not showing up?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: See if the button that tells the computer when the screen is closed is stuck down.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: i.e. the button that gets depressed when you close the screen
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: no idea where that is
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: some uses magnetic/proximity switches :)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei looks at Yhogurk and goes "Hmmmm."
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Perhaps
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: but i can faintly see the screen
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: but barely at all
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: that's the backlight on
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: IIRC, mine was doing that when it thought the screen was closed.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: def couldn't read on it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spodgy Tech: I had the same problem with my lappy.. had to get a part replaced
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spodgy Tech: forgot the name of it.. buts its something to do with the backlight
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: hang on can you actually see the text/whatever, but faintly?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: well no... i mean if i looked hard enough maybe... but it would be really tough to identify
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: in that case sounds like backlight is dead
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: i read something about removing the ram and putting it back in can sometimes make it work agin
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: i could take apart a desktop and put it back together but i know nothing about notebooks
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: i very much doubt the two are related
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: so basically im screwed and need to send it in to be fixed?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: no one knows anything i can tamper with to try to fix it?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: if it's a loose connection or something then you might see some results by whacking it :)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: well if its something loose, what is loose that i can go just make it unloose instead of smacking it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: where would it be
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: i already said, it sounds like the backlight is dead (or at least not working properly)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: ok, where is that located
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: around the display, it's job as the name suggests is to shine light thru the lcd panel to the front so that you can see the pixels
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: it's normally a cold fluorescent tube, some newer displays use LEDs
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: hm
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: so i guess its nothing i can really take apart and mess with
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: i think it's one of those things where if you have to ask then it's probably best you not mess around with it :)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daniiel Tech: how do you set aardwolf's pagelength ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Daniiel: Use 'scroll.'
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyhe Tech: How hard would it be for me to find drivers for my new hp if I installed linux?  Ive never used linux, thought id try but im worried about getting the drivers
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: boot a linux liveCD
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyhe Tech: how about finding the drivers though?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that way, you install nothing, but see how it recognizes your hardware straight out of the box
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyhe Tech: ohhh
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyhe Tech: Ok, sounds good.  Since I know when I install windows i always have to find a driver for my wireless, sound etc
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerillium Tech: is there anyway to rebind the buttons on the numpad?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: no doubt
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zerillium D  i wanna move the 7 button, to the 3 button... and the 3 button.. somewhere else
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: prob a good idea to let us know what client you use
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerillium Tech: oh sry, mush
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or are you trying to do it for all of windows?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerillium Tech: all of windows? no just the game, i know 8 is north, 2 is south, 4 is west, 6 is east, 7 is down, 9 is up, but i keep hitting the 3 button (recall) instead of 7, thinking i'm going down
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game -> configure -> keypad
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zerillium D thx
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerillium Tech: =D thx
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bolt Tech: i need some help
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bolt Tech: with an old version of zmd
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bolt Tech: has some annoying things going on...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: ask away
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bolt Tech: a couple of things, one it gives me a stat line after every input command that looks liketech a couple of things, one it gives me a stat line after every input command that looks like {stats}164/105,138/105,118/86,148/116,95/81,160/105,68,100,100,184,178,You are Standing.,9999,2936/4312,3476/3476,3493/3493,155391,1242,3,-2432,3622,129,5
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: type statmon
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bolt Tech: awesome
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bolt Tech: next, i get a tag line for each channel that is used ... looks like tech next, i get a tag line for each channel that is used ... looks like {chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: type statmon
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: 'help tags'
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bolt Tech: ah, so these are all built in in v3 now...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: can be
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: turn em off if your not using them
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bolt Tech: thanks, i havent played in like 5 years, trying to get things set back up
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: yeah... this is all mud stuff, mushclient turns them on, zmud doesnt know about them
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I got a question about cMud... is that package thingie like a class similar to zMud, but upper ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: Should I put things in packages, or it's all the same ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: And then what's a module for ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: hi ...I have a question. My DVD player plays AVI format but when I burn an AVI to a vcd ... my player won't play it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: am i missing some files
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: nope
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: AVI files have codecs
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: the dvd player wont play all of them by default
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: most can't be upgraded
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: only solution is to convert the avi to a format it accepts
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: hhmm ... ok
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: do you mean by "burn an AVI to a vcd", vcd is a specfic format and most (all?) dvd players will play vcds, unless you meant you burned some AVI files onto  CDROM/DVDROM?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: #SHOW %query(&Level>230) works on zMud, but not on cMud, why is that ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: anyone know of a visual studio like suite for linux?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: eh, visual studio because you need to write in .NET languages?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: regardless, you can try eclipse
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: just something to make coding easyer
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: im still learning c++ and i want to stop having vista on my laptop but i want to keep the same feel im used to with VS
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alluring Alluran Tech: so get windows7 beta :P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: heh
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Maybe vim as your editor, and g++ as your compiler?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: i havent tried yet, but does VS run under wine?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zogbad Tech: Travis - have you tried Mono on Linux- it also has a vb compiler?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: oi, no poisoning people pls
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Maybe he's already on Linux?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no accounting for taste, i suppose
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yup.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: well ill be installing ubuntu on my laptop later tonight im trying to get ideas of apps to get
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you psycho
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: no i havent zog
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I hear Kdevelop's not bad. Though it may not fit that nicely with Ubuntu's usual GNOME set.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alluring Alluran Tech: try Mint instead
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alluring Alluran Tech: is Ubuntu based
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I've heard about that, but not really used it except for the one time I installed 4.0 :P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Didn't like the menu, so I dumped it :P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: But now I'm using openSUSE, so.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: nice time ot make a list
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: Anyone know how to make mapquery in zMud case sensitive ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alluring Alluran Tech: mail zugg $10000 in unmarked bills
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: Anyone please ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alluring Alluran Tech: that's your only option
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Can't help you there.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alluring Alluran Tech: mapquery isn't case sensitive
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alluring Alluran Tech: if you want it, you have to convince zugg to pick up a closed project
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: Ok I'll write it myself :(
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alluring Alluran Tech: good luck with that :P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alluring Alluran Tech: zmud is closed source
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: yeah okay :p
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: I don't write it in zMud
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: and you can write it in zMud too btw :P just foreach results and case sensitive match function :P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alluring Alluran Tech: wouldnt it be faster to do a mapquery then using the narrowed down result set do a linear search? :P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alluring Alluran Tech: as com->zmud == slow
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: But I thought there would be an easier way and no I use c# for external scripting :)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: If ya like it then ya shoulda put a ring on it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: UGH
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You raise your eyebrow at Impotent Inicus.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: #PRIORITY {#FORALL result {#IF (%roomname(%i) == searched) {#ADDITEM _result2 {%i}}} well that wasnt so hard :P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so what's with the triple-channel ram setup on the new intel i7?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it runs linux better
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Workaholic Timeghost Tech: what does that mean - triple-channel? parallel RAM access?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: my mushclient here is going several lines below my actual screen, so I can't see what I"m typing.. how do I resize it to fit?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Muesli Tech: press the box in the top right corner?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: nope... that still makes it go beyond the screen window
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the top-right corner, is the middle icon a single window, or 2 overlapping?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: oh.. hm.. clicking on the box for the game window resizes that one properly, but now I can't seee the other windows at all :-)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for the indiv. windows, you can right-click the tab to access the resizing stuff
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Muesli nods at you in agreement. 
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and, for instance, the stats window by default doesn't let you get to the top bar, but you can still access it by right-clicking on its tab, selecting "move", and then using your arrow keys instead of dragging
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and it'll pop back to where you can do everything with it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: well, I can do fine with just this main game window..b tu when I click the icon to make it share the screen with everybody else, it goes beyond its boundaries again... and I can't reach them off screen to fix the size by dragging
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Window->cascade then move and resize to fit your needs
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type aardinit to make the windows go to a "sane" layout
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or it may be initaard, I forget ;-)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: hm.. aardinit:  sorry, I don't understand you :-)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's initaard
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: Bast's suggestion is working, I think
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: ah yes.. initaard works too
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: yay!  I can see!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Muesli Tech: init blud!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but yeah, when you right-click and say "move", don't try to drag with mouse...just use arrow keys to get the top titlebar in view
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's tough trying to price up 3 pc's in this climate
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: lets get an idea of what people think: You want a basic office desktop, or home office/homework pc. What spec/features would the base unit have, and what sort of price would you expect to pay?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Accurate Tech: Home office, want intel i7 architecture, not paying more than $100
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Accurate Tech: I think I have to wait a year or so :D
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: or 10, accurate
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Accurate sniggers quietly to himself, reflecting over an amusing thought.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Accurate Tech: I can get a computer with 2gb ram, 320gb hd, and an e4600 for $120. :P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: off the back of a lorry?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Accurate Tech: No, off Craigslist
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A winner is Accurate!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: $120 just about gets you a decent case here
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Accurate Tech: I can find ATX cases for $5
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Accurate Tech: I don't care what it looks like.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you missed the "decent" bit
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Accurate raises an eyebrow.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Accurate Tech: I like my cases sturdy. Most people want them lightweight.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what about new?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Accurate Tech: Server cases.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Accurate Tech: ah, there you're talking maybe $50
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why would you want a case to be lightweight?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Accurate Tech: So you can pick it up
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: who in their right mind picks their pc up?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Accurate Tech: ffik
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Accurate Tech: the morons around here?:P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if it needs to be portable, that's what laptops are for
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Accurate Tech: but "desktops are way cooler for lan parties"
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if i took mine to a lanparty, not only would it look antiquated, but i'd also need a forklift
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Accurate Tech: I'm talking personal experience here, not industry specs. They want cases that are mainly plastic. :P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Accurate whips out the P01N+33 stick and savagely pokes at Tigernuts's gut!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Accurate Tech: wonder why...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: "Do it!" yells Accurate.  Tigernuts raises his shirt, and dances wildly!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: Is there another spellup script, different than Davos' ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: For cMud I mean
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Is there any particular place I should go to find missing header files for C programs?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Oh hrm.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I suppose Windows people use winsock.h instead of sys/socket.h?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik nods quietly to himself.  What a wacko.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik is concurring with himself. Questionable behavior, isn't it?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Workaholic Timeghost Tech: they're not identical
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Workaholic Timeghost Tech: the windows API and the UNIX sockets are very different things - unless you use a higher-level library you can't make your program portable if it uses raw sockets
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Oh no :[
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Is there a freely available portable socket library?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Workaholic Timeghost Tech: Java is portable ;)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik sobs quietly to himself because Workaholic Timeghost was a jerk!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Workaholic Timeghost Tech: as for C - none that I found satisfactory. Easier to write your own based on the functionality you need - the #ifdef's work like a charm
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Well, maybe that wouldn't be so bad
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Workaholic Timeghost Tech: i.e. just encapsulate something like "connect_to_thing" in #ifdefs and "send_to_thing" in the same manner, etc - depending on your needs
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Workaholic Timeghost Tech: means writing a lot more socket-level code - sure - but it'll be semi-portable at least
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Alright, thanks!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: does someone know how to permanently set "chats echo off" in mushclient so i don't have to enter it each time i start mush?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: something about editing the addon where it says chat echo = true to false
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: something like that anyway, there was 2 places to do that if i remember correctly
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: is that in mush? or in files?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It's in your mom.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: in files.  Find the plugin in your mush folder
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: ok, starling. that wasn't technical. that was a joke.... quite funny too.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Great success.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: was it the "chats.mcl" file that needed the chat_echo = "false" line there?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Starling giggles at Afro Sheen Mirrim's actions.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nielh Tech: Ok, someone talk to me about this game.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: lol what do u need help with exactly
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: try newbie channel perhapse
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: firstly i think it's best to go through the academy, up from 'recall'
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nielh Tech: Well,
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nielh Tech: There appears to be no public channel
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: there's tons
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nielh Tech: So could I get some help in that respect?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nielh Tech: like?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: type channel to see them all
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: newbie channel
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: for new players, you might want to try the newbie channel
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: once you reach level 5, you get the ever-so-noisy gossip channel which is basically, THE channel
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: pfft gossip channel
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Has anyone written a script to estimate mob health based on damage done and percentages and such?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: probably not....there's a v1 clanskill that I believe can read hp among other things..
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: anyone have the experience bar plugin from gammon's website?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerillium Tech: hello?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daniiel Tech: hi =)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerillium Tech: hi.. yesterday i asked someone to help me set up a trigger to prevent booting from idling "Idle time exceeded - see you when you get back!"
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerillium Tech: anything i can do to prevent from gitting booted for idling?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: if you have your tick option set, you can trigger off of the tick message
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daniiel Tech: or when your receive the message "Your eyes glaze over." have it trigger something
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerillium Tech: well your eyes glaze over and it has send look
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerillium Tech: well, your eyes glaze over, and it has send, look
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerillium Tech: more of what i shoulda said lol
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: better to not bother triggering, and send it every 10 mins anyway
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerillium Tech: how do i do this?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and only need to send a blank carriage return, not a real command
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daniiel Tech: depends on the client i'd suppose.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerillium Tech: mushie mush
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: anyone understand the experience bar addon gannom did? http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=9224
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daniiel Tech: im not a mushclient(er) can't help you there.=*(
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerillium Tech: =(
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daniiel Tech: should have a keep alive option somewhere, if its as full featured as it seems
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for mush to do time-based things, such as sending something every 10 mins, go to game -> configure -> timers
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: keepalive is different
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerillium Tech: ah ok thx ^_^
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and immanuel, there are no prompt or statmon options for your max-tnl, only for current tnl
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daniiel Tech: is there anyway to have tintin++ keep the last command entered in the prompt (i have it #split) ? so for example if i am going to go east 5 times, i can type "e" once and follow it with 5 <RETURN) and go east five times (hope that made sense =)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so other than manually setting it for your current mort/tier, the plugin wouldn't know how much to fill in the bar
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daniiel Tech: like zMud does
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm sure there is, especially since zmud is based on tintin++, but I don't use tt ;-)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: yea, there's an option in #config
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daniiel Tech: Awesome, thank you Argot, been looking all over for that!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: - 5
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: woops
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: #config {repeat enter} {on} btw, if you didn't see it yet
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daniiel Tech: i found it, the learning curve is steep without a pretty GUI configuration 
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Argot giggles at Daniiel's actions.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daniiel Tech: in tintin++ #action = trigger ?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: anyone know anything about the experience bar plugin that gannom recently did?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I answered you on that 1/2 an hour ago :P
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: you did i must have missed it sorry
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 23:11:03 and 23:11:43 are responses to you
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I don't suppose anybody knows how to make Apache defer a request to an external program?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neleus Tech: anyone have a three moons script for mush?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: anyone ever experience frequent DSL drops at certain times of the day?  my DSL seems to be unbearably unstable from about 7AM to 10AM, and is usually fine the rest of the day
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: it just needs its morning does of coffee
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: dose even
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: haha
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: you prob have heavy machinery in your neighbourhood
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: causing physical disturbances in the areas where the lines are, you mean?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: And that heavy machinery is Kitaro's mom.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: lmao
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: no, electromagnetic disurbances
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: More like gravitational
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: but why would said machinery only be effective from 0700 to 1000?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: hmmm, okay.  makes sense; we do have some kind of processing plant pretty much right across the street from us
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: bingo
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: I'd call my ISP and see if they know anything about it
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: I've called my ISP so many times and they never really give me a straight answer on anything.  Even had a guy come out and test the line, but it was in the afternoon, so the line was perfect at the time
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: If it is indeed just the nearby plant, then I'm just glad it only happens when I'm usually sleeping, haha
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: dsl is very flakey... easily disturbed
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ruthless Ross nods.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: i'm glad i'm using a dial-up modem then :)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Accurate Tech: Ah. My dsl is disturbed by high winds.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Accurate peers intently at Yhogurk.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: watever works Yhogurk, lol
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: back when I used dialup, I had an uninterrupted connection for something like 60 days once.  I was so proud of how stable it was
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: might be better to use an acoustic modem, wouldn't be affected by these electromagnetic thingumjits
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i have great dsl here
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i think the exchange is only a few hundered meters away  =)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: awesome
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: ours isn't too far.  the speed is blazing and it's usually quite stable.  just these morning hours seem to have it pitching fits
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: yeah if it's like clockwork, that plant across the road probably does something intensive every morning
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ruthless Ross nods.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: many thanks for the advice, I didn't really think about interferences like that
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: big electric motors or arc lights, or arc welders or some crap
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: before you're resigned to that conclusion, you should take starling's advice and call your isp
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: I've called 'em lots of times about the issue but they never seem to be able to actually observe the phenomenon
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: I've given them logs, data, etc. and they don't really do anything
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: if they deny it it prob means it's out of thier control
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: Yeah, that's what I figure
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: even if it's out of their control they should at least tell you what the problem is
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: or what they *think* the problem is
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: they wont tell you wat it is because they can only guess...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: ross do other subscribers in the neighbourhood have the same problem?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: my neighbor across the street was having lag issues a while back but she said she got it fixed.  i haven't asked her about the morning hours issue though
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: they're the only people i know that are subscribed, it's a very small neighborhood
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: is 2 people enough to start a class action?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: lol, americans answer to everything is to sue
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: stfu or i'll sue you
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: haha, I already bug my ISP regularly - I have them on speed dial - I don't want to make their agony worse XD
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: but first i have to eat a hamburger
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: w/extra bacon
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: only -a- hamburger?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: Just send them a pipe bomb in the mail.  That'll show them.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: dammit i want a burger now
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: better still send them starling, that'll learn them real good!
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: at least we're not home to U2 :D
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: ew
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: Aww, Wyverex took me off ignore.  I'm disappointed.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: o crap
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: wellyou did ruin a good thing of having nobody on there
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: I'll just have to attack some mobs in a room before he charges in and make him cry about it.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: but throwing up a bit in my mouth when you spoke has made me put you back on :(
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Ah back to 80's music ... Duran Duran, the Reflux ...
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: Cool, I never like losing haters.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: i never like hating losers
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: Nods, never a good thing to hate one's self
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: anyone have any experience with getting borland c++ command line compiler working under vista?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: Try reverting to XP?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta sighs.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: Failing that, might want to post on tech board
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: ya.  I wish I could.  Thanks.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: You're welcome :)
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta )
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta :) even.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: surely borland have their own support forums/mailing list? or have they gone bust?
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: they sold the line to embarecado (sp?) I can see the support forum (got there from a link), but get a dns whenever I click *anything*
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: dns error, ack mornings.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: anywho thanks, I'll take it to the board.
T1/r5/2009-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: I'd leave a note on tech board.  Somebody who knows is bound to log on at some point.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fezzie Tech: can anyone recommend me a good client for Mac OSX? I am using atlantis and it sucks.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: i am having trouble enabling java using firefox while on a ubuntu OS.  any thoughts/suggestions?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daniiel Tech: dont use java *chuckle
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daniiel Tech: sorry, i really dont like java, no idea
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Starbug - have you considered installing ubuntu-restricted-extras? Or something.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: i have not
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snagandorf Tech: i usta have trouble, than one day i downloaded the new addin and it worked, cant remember what else i had to do
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: How do you have Java, then?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Did you set up the jre yourself, etc?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: another problem i'm having is i can't connect to the flash version of aard on the website
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Hmm... I've used the flash client before, but I cannot remember if it was on Ubuntu or not :P
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Anyone know of an editor that allows absolutely free control over syntax highlighting, and makes it easy to do so? :\
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: Editplus maybe
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I use editpad pro, you can set up syntax highlighting...there's an online repository of user-contributed patterns
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I dunno the featureset of editpad lite vs pro
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Any luck, Starbug?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Ah. Good. I'll take a look at that, then. I'm using UltraEdit, and while it has nice syntax highlighting, it only allows for some syntax changes. :\
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: none yet
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Did you remember how you got it installed in the first place? :P
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Maybe just doing an update of the java and flash packages would be good. Or remove them and use ubuntu-restricted-extras instead. It's a metapackage.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: i haven't had much luck installing.  i don't use this computer outside of wordprocessing/ internet
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daniiel Tech: starbug why do you want java, for a mud client ?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: well i don't really, just wanted to play it off the website
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daniiel Tech: this is a little off topic but related, there is a mifty new mud client in ubuntu's repos called mudlet (http://www.mudlet.org/)
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daniiel Tech: might work a little better anyways..just a though.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, much better to use an established client such as tinyfugue :-)
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you'll be able to download scripts for Aard ready-made
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daniiel Tech: i use tintin++, don't think i'll ever change (again =)
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I'm using tintin++ too.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Couldn't find it in the repositories for openSUSE though, had to grab the tarball.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snagandorf Tech: i need to learn tt++ caus it's the only client on dslinux
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daniiel Tech: after getting used to the basic commands and configuration how to, it's really nice (and full featured)
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or you could use tf :P
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daniiel Tech: i think Abelinc is a tinyfague fan *wink
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Abelinc: I could, indeed. But I didn't like it at first, so :P
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Daniiel - you're wrong. He's THE tinyfugue MAN. :P
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I meant snag
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daniiel chuckles politely.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: using tt because you like it is different than using it because it's all you saw
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daniiel Tech: i've never used it, i'll check it out sometime, it's console based client isn't it?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien rapidly nods twice to you, in complete agreement.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I was using Pueblo before, on windows... that was somewhat tintin based.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: So I had plenty of time to get used to the scripting syntax, though the gagging never really worked.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tt is good, but I don't know of any public scripts...there's some core users available to help with issues, but finding them is sometimes hard
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snagandorf Tech: which would u say is easier to switch to from zmud, tt++ or tf?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tt++
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: zmud was originally tt++
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I don't know, didn't like ZMud either :P Too many buttons. Or was that mush... :P
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dunno how much original code remained in later zmuds, but zmud was based on tt++ source code
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snagandorf Tech: well i zmud on pc, and have been telnetting on ds caus i dont know the clients that well, but i want my mccp bonus so i'm thinken of learnen
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: How's DSLinux, incidentally? Did you get the original 50MB flavour?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: you can use mccp with telnet too
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yup.. indeed you can.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daniiel Tech: telnet *shiver
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can use mccp proxy toget it with telnet, but there's no need to cripple yourself with telnet when you can use tt++ or tf to have full client functionality anywhere you can also get telnet
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: throw tt or tf onto a machine on the 'Net, then telnet to that machine instead of telnetting into Aard
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snagandorf Tech: to be honest i only dabble in dslinux, have not learned too much, or compiled my own, i need to find ways to drop the ram requirements caus if i do things in the wrong order the machine locks, and i think it's a ram issue
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, dsl shouldn't be using much ram...it's damn small ;-)
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are you running it in a windows emulator (Qemu)?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snagandorf Tech: well the compile i'm currently using won't even boot if i dont have the 8m memory expansion
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wait, OK, you're talking about a different dsl ;-)
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snagandorf Tech: nintendo ds, DSlinux
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, I was talking about DSL, DamnSmallLinux, a linux distro designed to be tiny, fitting on a 50MB flash drive
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snagandorf Tech: ya, all i know is that mine uses the UClinux kernal
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: So it's what, 2.4?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Hey Abelinc.. what kernel does BSD use? Is it a Unix kernel? Or do most BSDs have a derivative of the same kernel? I.e. Dragonfly != Net != Free..
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a BSD-based kernel...the "big 3" BSD distros (free, open, Net) all share lots of code with each other, but it's not a unified kernel
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snagandorf Tech: odd that i thought we were on the same page when everyone knew i had both tt++ and tinyfugue
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Nah, you can get it anywhere :P
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeon Tech: Im using the MUSHclient.... is there anyway to turn off the "Big Map" tab at the top from popping up? I find it a little annoying for right now.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: bigmap auto off, i believe
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: I deleted it lol
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: but now i get errors lol
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeon Tech: using Drachon's idea I got a messege saying "Bigmap auto-minimize DISABLED." I will see if this works now.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeon Tech: All right it worked. Thanks for the help! =D
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: np :)
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DeathSkull Tech: how do you disable the chats tab and big map tab?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DeathSkull Tech: they annoy me
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DeathSkull Tech: how do you disable the chats tab and big map tab?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: go to "file">>"plugins" then highlight the addons you just mentioned, and click "disable" button
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DeathSkull Tech: ty
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: np
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: Anyone able to help me out with a plugin for MUSH?  http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=9224&page=999
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: I am unable to have the plugin even draw the experience bar and don't know why
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PainInThe Ashtoreth Tech: you (we)'re going to have to change to script itself so it will recognize you(our) prompt
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PainInThe Ashtoreth Tech: there's a trigger in there near the top that has to match.  should be simple, i'll have a look for you(us)  heh...
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: I did, still doesn't seem to do anything
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: if you can get it to work that would be great.  Although I think you will have to change the values because this mud has remorts...
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: Gammon posted a version of the exp bar that can be used for Aardwolf if anyone is interested.  http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=9224&page=999
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: anyone using zmud? i have some problems with my setting editors
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: What problem, specifically?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: im in the settings window right..
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: and i try to edit a class script
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: i can enter in new things in the class script window no problem
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: but when i save the class script.. all the things i entered disappear
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: ie to say my class script is not savec
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Does the focus jump around when you hit save?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Like, does it select something else?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: nope
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: i just click save and all the settings ive typed so far just disapperas
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: I have no idea then... Mine does that from time to time but the focus goes crazy too. I have to restart zMUD to get it working again.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: are you choosing the option to see all settings or just triggers /aliases etc
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: mine was like tt from day one
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: i am at the all settings
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: any filters active?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: no 
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: its really wierd any changes to the class script fails.. but when i manually use my mouse to click on all the buttons and enter the triggers aliases etc one by one it works
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: any ideas?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: in zmud 7.21 how do you disable the numpad directions?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: is a bit operation legal in an sql query? for instance RoomInt & 2 AND Name LIKE 
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: I'm having a bit of a problem connecting a hard line from a modem to a laptop that primarily uses wireless
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: The laptop is ran on vista as well, anyone know what I need to do to connect to this modem?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: what are you using to connect it to? Cat5?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Impotent Inicus stares at the sky.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: anyone here windows server admin and has experience with "Windows cannot set the password for (account name) because: The requested object has a non-unique identifier and cannot be retrieved."
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: On Vista.. using the Aardwolf spellups plugin, it saves the world file every 3 minutes or so.. but it keeps saying access denied every time it tries to save.. any ideas?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: running it in elevated mode?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: No idea what that even means
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: =(
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: zmud has to be run with administrator crudentials on vista. search m$ site for instructions on how to do that
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: I want the UAC?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: disabling uac might achieve the same thing, yes
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Why would Zmud need to be run in admin mode?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: writes to program files directory
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Impotent Inicus nods at <sarcasm> Forestseer.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: (settings files stored in program directory, instead of mydocs
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Well, I'm using MUSH.. but it's the same thing.. won't save settings
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Isn't there a way to change that, though?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bleh, mush
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: not 100%
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: some files stay in zmud directory no matter what
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: or you install elsewhere
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: I think I got it to work.. just right clicked mush and clicked run as administrator
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: so, anyone know where I can find a decent linux driver for the creative x-fi, which supports the i/o bay and remote?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i need another screen
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Whatever for?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not enough room on 2
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miquiz Tetzahuitl Tech: porn
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: porn is important
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: tempted to give those horrid powerline bridges a try, fed up with wireless screwing up when family uses the microwave
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: get a better microwave?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not my microwave, not my house, not my choice
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cuz that's indicative of an unsafe condition
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: nothing like putting your face right up to a leaky microwave to check the hot dog
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'll presume you've played with the channel for your AP?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: chuft isn't particularly taken with ubuntu, i hear
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feiros Tech: Hm I have a problem. Downloaded a quest plugin that tells me total qp and tells me in friends all kinds of info. Anyways, the problem is that it turns off my Info Bar, where I see my hp and enemy hp, when I finish a quest..anyone know why? Might be colliding with some other plugin but I tried turning some off and nothing
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fezzie Tech: does anyone use a good client for Mac OSX? I am using terminal right now and it is so limited!
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: i think that MUSHclient works on MAC... 
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: but so does TinTin++ and TF.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fezzie Tech: what do you recommend?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daniiel Tech: tintin++
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: personally... if your new to the mudding comunity or to client programming... use either mush(for aard) or TT++
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: there are alot of ppl here that use both, that might be willing to help you with some questions
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: or if you would like a mud client written specifically for mac go here --- http://www.hsoi.com/mud/clients/
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fezzie Tech: looks like mush is only for windows?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: nope.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: lotsa ppl use it in linux with wine...
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: and if you can install wine for mac... you can use it
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: hmm that's still a windows only prog
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: ok... then go to that website i posted and get a MAC only client
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fezzie Tech: TinTin just opened in Terminal
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daniiel Tech: tintin++ console based
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: another client that is specifically for MAC... got some really good reviews in WIKI ---- http://www.jamochamud.org/
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fezzie Tech: thank you
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: no problem :)
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: how can i get a lvl trigger to get a piece of eq from a bag using the serial # of the item
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: its not recognizing the ()
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: lemme know when you find out
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: what client / lang you scripting in?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: cmud
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: oh... have you tried using a " ~ " infront of the " ( ) "???
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: haven't tried that yet lets me see if that works
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: ah thankyou that worked
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: well there you go also Myopic :) use the tilde " ~ " :)
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Talleron chuckles politely.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: in mush scripting... how do you signify a newline... like if i wanted to trigger off of say 3 lines that are placed back-to-back... would it be something like "blahblah blah * blah$blayblay * blah blah"???
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: is the $ the new line designator?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Dagas, it has to be a regular expression and use \\n as the line seperator
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: \n that is
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: i think you also have to set the option that it is a multiline trigger, but I have not used any multiline triggers, so i don't really know :)
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so what do you think about Linux then, Chuft?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i hear that you like it
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: so, anyone know how to make a creative sb live work with ubuntu? most of the stuff on the forums I tried has failed to work
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: chuft can't get his soundcard to work with ubuntu, someone help him
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: euw, advert on tv for mac
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so why is ubunto such a dreadfully slow os, then?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: certainly a damn sight slower than the xp build on that machine..heh
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: i'm still having probs setting default setting to "chats echo off" when starting mush
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trashbat! Anipopo falls on his knees and worships Pantsu Nimrodel.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: how do i format a sound file on my computer to fit into the format the mush used for the trigger alarm?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: google 'convert <format> to wma'
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: wmv enev
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: even even :P
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: umm, pretty sure mush uses windows api's to play sound, so whatever windows can play...  mush is prob irrelevant
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i remember it supporting wmv or mp3 only for some reason
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, damn. thinking zmud
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: zmud also uses windows api
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: If your client can run an external program then it can play anything. You just need a player that can take command line arguments to play then quit.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: it need .wav
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i uses WAV with triggers in mushclient all the time... i did nothing special to do it
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: like for my messenger it plays my music but i deont have any sounds that play for the trigger
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: all my music is mp3 i cant get it to accept anyhting
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i am playing mp3 from a trigger in mushclient right now
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: how? i cant get it to do it
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I have full control over winamp from my zmud command line right now
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft patiently twiddles his thumbs.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: in the box when you browse for the file, it lets you choose wav, mid, rmi
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: type as the filename *.mp3
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: correct
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i am not asking for correction, i am giving you direction
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: btw here is a sample for you, if you know how to import triggers
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: <triggers><trigger enabled="y" match="mp3 test" sequence="100" sound="F:\Media\music\electronica\Ministry of Sound\Ministry of Sound - 02 - My Vision.mp3"></trigger></triggers>
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: is there an aard packaged mushclient download v4.35 or higher now?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: or is v4.33 still the only aard package available?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: install the aardmush 4.33, then install a mush from gammon on top of it
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: that didnt work when i tried it
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You won't lose your plugins, and you can get the upgraded copy.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the aardmush first sets it up with the plugins and such, the later install will "remember" the aard-specific stuff
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Hellfiend: Then you did something wrong.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: does that surprise you?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Not at all. In fact, it would surprise me if you did something right.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: me to
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: anyone know of a place where i can get Cmud themes or skins
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Uh... they're not supported...
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: oh
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: They were at one time, but it was too difficult to manage.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: i thought so i remember an aqua and a wood and steel themes 
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: They were removed quite a while ago.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: well it was back when cmud first came in
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Muesli Tech: meh. I'm  watching a .mkv file but the audio on it seems to be behind by about 3 seconds, anyone know a way to forward the sound?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Rip the sound from the video, then sync it.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: try opening the file again
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: perhaps your com is too slow?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Muesli Tech: opened the file several times and in different clients
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: i had the same problem with sound delay too
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Muesli Tech: normally don't have the problem either
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: Ack. Hmm...well maybe Charneus' fix is the only way...I remember something fishy about .mkv's but can't remember :p
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: if a restart doesn't work, you can always try a different codec?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Muesli Tech: you mean convert the file?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Not convert, but use a different code. Converting it will probably not solve the problem.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: no, something that lets your player read the file, like CoreAVC
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Muesli Tech: okay, i'll have a look at that, thanks
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: question about mushclient scripting and triggers... i have the following as my trigger value --- "The system time is         : *:*:* - * 2009 --- and then in my script i am doing a "local blahhour = wildcards[1]" and the same through 3... then "world.SetVariable("blahvar1_hour", blahhour)" -- but its not populating the variable... any thoughts?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: is there a problem with trying to get more than one "wildcards[..]"???
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: wads the zmud function to start counting time elapsed?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: there is no one on that can help with triggers in MushClient? with all the scripters here??? this is odd
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: all the scripters??
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kitaro walks around holding his udder, looking for someone to spray milk at.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: there are ppl on here that are super-scripterz :)
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: your are trying to set a variable in the world file from a plugin?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: no... haven't created a plugin yet... just doing flat trigger, and then calling a script function
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: dagas: try it without the world part and make sure the trigger is sendto.script
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: in lua, is there a way to send "omit from output" when you send a command? like if i send "realtime" i don't want it to actually show in the sceen
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: sendnoecho
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: what function for zmud can i use to time how long sth takes
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: for %word function on zmud, is there a way i can call multiple words from the string at one go?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: see thats not true though, because skill is ab ability that has be acquired by training or pratice
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: mis
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: anyone know if there is a way to check how many characters are in a string? like what i want to do is if variable tcm only has 1 integer/character in it, i want to add another integer/character... ie.. if it contains only numbers 0-9 i want to add a 0.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: sorry using the scripting (lua) for mush client
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cult of Rok Tech: I would think strlen()
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: wat is the message u receive from the mud when u get bonus qp in a quest?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: making a counter..
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are 3 messages
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: do you have them? for qp trains and pracs respectively
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: Luck! You Recieve * Bonus Quest PointS!
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: Lucky! You Recieve * Bonus Quest Points!
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, the 3 were just for QPs
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: oo ok tts one
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The gods reward you # bonus quest points...You gain an extra # quest point* luck bonus...You get lucky and gain an extra # quest point[s].
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: ahh ok tt helps a lot thx
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: damn i screwed even that up
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: anyone know how to properly calculate time in lua(mushclient scripting)??? i keep getting negative numbers if i take more than 1 minute to do what ever it is that i am doing... like if start time is 22:22:17 and end time is 22:23:14, for the seconds i get a -4... any ideas?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Dagas: There's a time conversion script that you can play with.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: http://lua-users.org/wiki/DayOfWeekAndDaysInMonthExample --- Scroll down to the bottom to see the time difference.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: know where i can get it?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: thank
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Has a lot of very useful scripts, in fact.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parzifal Tech: any zmud folks out there
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: yeah
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parzifal Tech: u have any idea how to add various information to the built in status bar.  such as exp and other info?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: v 7.21?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parzifal Tech: yep
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: #ST
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: stick it in a trigger or timer
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: hmm any zmud users here
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: my prompt looks like this {465/465hp 325/325mn 825/825mv 82tnl 6min EWD }
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: i can't seem to capture my qtime information with this triger
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: ^~{*hp *mn *mv *tnl  &%d{qtime}min *
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: is tehre a way to bring focus to one zmud window from another zmud window?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: WindowName:
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: is it a function?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: wat is the %0 parameter in zmud used for?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: where do you see %0?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: any zmud pros here?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: better to just ask a question
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: you only get i question, you sure thats it ?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: wat is %0 in zmud used for?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: i noe %1-%99 captures from the trigger
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: but this script i found uses %0 in a very wierd way
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not sure, but isn't it %null ?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: %1-%99 are also arguments 1-99...%0 is all arguments
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: all arguments meaning if i had 4 strings that i am capturing in the trigger, it is all 4 at one go?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: %1..%99the patterns enclosed in () saved by the trigger
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: %0 appears to be undefined
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are 2 different times that you use %#s...one is for parenthesized parts of a trigger, the other is for arguments when calling a function
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: #case %db( ll_Questing_DB, QuestStatus) {#if {%0} {%0 ~I am Currently Able to Quest.~} {%db( ll_Questing_Db, qreportchan) ~I am Currently Able to Quest.~}} {#if {%0} {%0 ~There Are ~time ~Minutes Remaining Until I Can Quest Again~.} {%db( ll_Questing_Db, qreportchan) ~There Are ~time ~Minutes Remaining Until I Can Quest Again~.}} {#if {%0} {%0 ~C~urrent ~Q~uest~: ~I Have ~%db( ll_Questing_DB, CurrentQuestTime) ~Minutes To Kill ~%db( ll_Questing_DB, QuestMob)~, ~In ~%db( ll_Questing_DB, QuestRoom)~ Of ~%db( ll_Questing_DB, QuestArea)~.~} {%db( ll_Questing_Db, qreportchan) ~C~urrent ~Q~uest~: ~I Have ~%db( ll_Questing_DB, CurrentQuestTime) ~Minutes To Kill ~%db( ll_Questing_DB, QuestMob)~,~ In ~%db( ll_Questing_DB, QuestRoom)~ Of ~%db( ll_Questing_DB, QuestArea)~.~}}
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir rests in a corner and mutters 'spam' quietly to himself.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: that was bad
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: look at the way #if {%0} is used.. its very wierd
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: holy spam
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: haha sry
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: do you even remotely understand the code you pasted ?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: it looks different on my zmud.. and yea i understand everything tts going on
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: but how #if {%0} works
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: why dont you write some small scricpts to see wat it does
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: haha yea i was going to do that eventually.. just figured i wud see if anyone here knew anything abt it first tho
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: i think he gets the logical flow of the script..he just wants to know what %0 references
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i suspect using undocuments feautres will lead to tears
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as I said, it's how it's being called...that's not a trigger
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: yea i know its not a trigger.. it was too hard to explain the context haha
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: its checking if ALL CAPTURES are not equal to empty string
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it's not looking at empty...it's doing exactly what I said
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it says "look at what is in the database field "QuestStatus", and compare those...that field is multi-word
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: %1 would only be the first word...%2 the second word...%0 (and probably %*) match all words
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: hmm good point i'll go test it out
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: thx
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can do the same thing with #ALIAS foo {#ECHO What is %1 ; #ECHO What is %2 ; #ECHO What is %0}}
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then type "foo one two three" to see what is output
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: the %0 returns one two three} three
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: wierd..
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: he had an extra brace in that alias
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oops, yeah, ignore my typo :-)
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: ahhh ok 
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: i understand now
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: but wait.. now it returns: %0 = one two three three 
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if what you pasted had used %1, then if you were currently able to quest, it would match "I" against "I am Currently Able to Quest.", and the match would fail
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: its an alias that contains that case statement and not a trigger..and throughout the whole quest tracking script that alias isn't called with any arguments
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: haha ok zmud's language is baffling even for einstein
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the alias isn't called with arguments...the database lookup is the case statement...the result of the db lookup is the arguments for the case statement
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: QuestStatus contains "I am Currently Able to quest."
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: nod i get that it chooses a statement based on the value of %db( ll_Questing_DB, QuestStatus), but what does %0 mean and why is there a need to use it in the %if statement? 
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yorke, I just explained that
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: because if u look at the result for case 1, case 2 and case 3, the case no. being returned by the value of %db( ll_Questing_DB, QuestStatus)
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although I think it's done clunkily...should just compare the db value directly
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: case 1 for example, uses {#if {%0} {%0 ~I am Currently Able to Quest.~} {%db( ll_Questing_Db, qreportchan) ~I am Currently Able to Quest.~}}
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: what the zmud client actually outputs is just I am Currently Able to Quest
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: so we are asking why they use the {#if {%0} {%0 ~I am Currently Able to Quest.~} pat
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Einstein acks...someone lost their pants at WindJammer's Party.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: part
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's saying if everything I got from looking up QuestStatus matches "I am Currently Able to Quest.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: hmm doesnt look like it.. the queststatus is a variable that is either 1, 2 or 3
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: doesn't this statement #if {%0} {%0 I am Currently Able to Quest.} {%db( ll_Questing_Db, qreportchan) I am Currently Able to Quest.}} mean if the value of %0 is true execute the first statement, else execute the second statement?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: yea so the %0 condition is wierd coz its not being compared to anything
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i believe zmud views anything non 0 as true
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so that statement means that if %0 exists, then execute whatever
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: its being used to see whether its non-zero or zero, but what i'd like to know is where that value comes from
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, sorry, correct, the first {} after the if doesn't have the comparison, so it's a true...then it'd work just as well with %1
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: ok.. so if it means the true statement of the if condition is used
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: it would execute {%0 I am Currently Able to Quest.}
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: %0 having no value
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: and yet it will gtell {%0 I am Currently Able to Quest.}
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: gtell being the var for %db( ll_Questing_Db, qreportchan) 
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: no it executes the 2nd statement because %0 is non true as it has no value
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it did have value, else it wouldn't have evaluated to true
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: oh ok i think yorke is correct.. %0 is an automatic false.. kicking in the else part of the if statement
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: so this is a very clunky way to do wat he was doing..
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not auto-false, otherwise no need to have a case
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: the case is to select what this alias should do
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: %db( ll_Questing_DB, QuestStatus)
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: is a variable of value 1, 2 or 3
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: 3 is on quest, 2 is waiting for quest, 1 is ready to quest req
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: anyone using windows powershell intergrated scripting environment ?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taemyr Tech: Is there a site with macros for aardwolfs MUSHclient?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: finger rathik, swalec and mushclient.com forums search for aardwolf
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taemyr Tech: thx.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cult of Rok Tech: So just curious, who here went and got SF4?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: wats a SF4 ?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: street fighter
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: street fighter 4
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cult of Rok Tech: Nobody else I guess. :-(
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Don't have a next-gen console yet :P
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: lol i never liked the original SF when i played it in the arcades 20 years ago
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: i'm a king of fighters guy
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: anyone here good in apache configuration, namely rewrite rules?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: The only little bit I know about Apache config is a little rewrite
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Doesn't hurt to ask :)
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: i'm trying to make an alias for home dirs
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: having issues referring to home dirs with tilde, so i'm trying to setup the thing to have -user redirect or point to ~user
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: what i did is put "RewriteRule ^/-(.*)$ /~$1 [R]" to the toplevel .htaccess file in my document root, and all i get is a 404 at -user, and everything working at ~user
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Are you sure you want [R]?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: R should mean redirect
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: and it would be something for starters
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: if i stopped getting 404 for -user, and instead it redirected me to ~user, then i'd go looking for something else :P
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: like how to make an alias instead
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Ah, so it's not even matching on /-user
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: yep
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: i should probably note that i have access to the full configuration, not just .htaccess files
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: but i don't quite know where and how to put this to make it work, it's a bit too magic for me
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Try removing the first /
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: It should work nearly anywhere in your httpd.conf
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: ok, i moved it into httpd.conf and removed /, didn't work
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: also i'm pretty sure rewrite engine is loaded and working, i have some apps installed that use it
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I'm just about out of ideas :( but just to make sure, when you try to browse to /-user, do you get the 404 on /-user, or does it redirect first, then give the 404 on /~user?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: 404 on /-user
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: "GET /-rain/ HTTP/1.1" 404
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Don't use a trailing slash
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: same
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: i fear that this is gentoo specific, there's this ton of configuration files split into "modules" in /etc/apache2/modules.d/, being included into httpd.conf and all
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: so my real problem might be finding out what exactly do i have to enable
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I suppose you could change your regexp to "a", and you'd at least know it was working if it matched on any url with an a in it
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: "RewriteRule ^a(.*)$ b$1 [R]"
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: getting /aa does not redirect me anywhere
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: RewriteRule a /b [R]
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: doesn't do anything, either
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: i guess the problem is really somewhere else than in the matching expression
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darmon Tech: does it work to put spells on a macro with say CMUD? will it not work because you have to have a target at the end right?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it works fine
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: may need to have the action be c armor %1 ; c shield %1 ; c stone %1, etc
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: if you're already in combat then it doesn't need a target
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, combat spells, yeah, no target needed
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darmon Tech: thats right, dont need a target once in combat.. but im not that good with cmud. can just do basic stuff like basic triggers and macros and i have trouble using the map. so i dont know what c armor  and stuff means
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, it was "cast armor" and had nothing to do with cmud
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when asking about a macro for spells and mentioning target, I figured you meant to spell up other players
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so was showing how to set an alias/macro to spell up other players
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darmon Tech: oh, lol.. well im a necro so dont think ill have much for help spells
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: if you need to specify a target then you can set the macro to only send contents to commandline (and not send the "enter") then you can type in the target and manually press "enter"
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darmon Tech: ah, didnt know you could do that. ill ask about it again when i go to use it
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darmon Tech: can i make a trigger to make time shift cast after i attack?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is there a recovery timer on it?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: yes there is a recovery timer
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darmon Tech: wait, it says it is automatic..means i dont cast it, just happens as a skill..right?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, timeshifting is different than time shifting
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darmon Tech: it says time shift.. its listed under my skills and says its automatic
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: anyone have a good way to color-correct a funky monitor?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: psi gets time shift at level 1...navigator gets timeshifting at 25...
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: well if it's auto, then there's no need to cast it then :)
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the first is auto, the second is not
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taemyr Tech: IN MUSHclient, is there a way to prevent the main window from losing focus when BIGMAP gets updated?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: bigmap auto off i believe
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taemyr Tech: thanks
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: np
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: lets say i have some triggers i want to test.. how can i simulate output from the mud to chk the trigger?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: what client
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "echo <what you want them to see>
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: zmud
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: doesn't matter what client
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: The mud itself has an echo command - help echo
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: echo is an in-game command that will send exactly what you tell it to send
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: o i just use the test trigger on my client
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: oo how convenient
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so it'll properly test every client
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: hmm but what if i want the mud to echo multiple liens?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Then that depends on your client.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: zmud..
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Then do #SAY text here, hit shift+enter to make a new line, repeat.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: oo ok thx
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: how do i delete all keys in a database varaible?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: database=%null
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: ahh right thx
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darmon Tech: how do you start a command like cast ballistic, have it put it in the command line without enter via a macro?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: enter it as a variable then expand it with tab
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: in zmud at least
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darmon Tech: i use cmud and im sorry im amateur at this youll have to use cmud for dummies language
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: click the "append to command" instead of "send to mud"
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: what he said
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: uh... yeah
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darmon Tech: i dont remember seeing append to command or send to mud when i set up the macro. i just hit macros, new, enter, hit f5, then entered cast ballistic
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: if zmud has it i'm sure cmud would too, ... somewhere
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: try setting it up as an alias, but when you enter alias into wherever u enter it instead of enter, hit tab... see if that works
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: is it possible to add keys wit the same name to a database var in zmud.. 
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: No.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: more than 1 key with the same name..
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darmon Tech: cant enter f5 in the alias thing
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: do something else, like "a" for example
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darmon Tech: im too dumb for cmud..lol.. sorry.. someone told me i could use a macro to send something to the command line without it executing..
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: What exactly are you trying to do?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Darmon: In order to append text to it, create the macro, and at the bottom (after you put the text you want it to do) check 'daisy chain'.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Or ignore me. *shrug* Off to wherever for me.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darmon Tech: hm, not working
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Include a space after the value.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: And instead of typing F5 for the macro box, put your cursor there, hit enter, then press F5.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darmon Tech: by value you mean after f5 the macro or the command like cast ballistic?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darmon Tech: yeah i do hit f5
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: After the command.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Just note that you're better off just making an alias for it.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darmon Tech: ok i put a space after cast ballistic and clicked daisey chain.. still not going to command line
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darmon Tech: ok, how do i make an alias for it then
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: insert alt f4 joke here
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You can use the ingame alias system. Just type 'alias whatever c ballistic'
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Like 'alias bal c ballistic'
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darmon Tech: what is bal?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Then all you have to do is type 'bal' or 'bal mob'
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: the alias for balistics
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darmon Tech: i see
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I'm just using it as an example.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darmon Tech: but it cant be the f5 key?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You can make it whatever you want.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Except the function keys.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: like mine is c a to cast 'acid blast'
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Aliases are actual words or whatnot. If you're setting it up as a macro, you're only making more work for yourself.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darmon Tech: ok but you think thats the best way to do macros like starting a cast.. it will send to command line?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i ditched my macros and just went to aliases it easier and causes less problems
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Ok. I'm going to see if I get this straight, to make sure we're on the same page.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You want something so that when you type in the target after pressing a certain button, it'll cast the spell at the target, right?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darmon Tech: yeah.. i want to hit say f5 and have cast ballistic show up in the command line so i just have to type in the mob name after that
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darmon Tech: just to start the fight, my macro for cast ballistic works just fine once in combat cause i dont have to type in the mob name anymore
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I generally start fights with k <mob>, then use my macro thereafter
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: you want to start a fight with your best attack.. just 'k <mob>' probably isn't ideal
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darmon Tech: ok, guess its not that big of a deal. just my spells are my best weapons so seemed like i would want to start off with that.. but if the difference is minimal
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darmon Tech: thats what i  was thinking crieus
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: i think charneus gives you the best advise.  use Aardwolf's built in aliases.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darmon Tech: gotcha, its one extra button so its all good. i got it set up
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: came home after 5 days and my ntfs partition was gone bad + mbr screwed up. no idea what happened, but bricks were dropped
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Benevolent Kyroda Tech: anyone have open office?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: does open plan office count?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: 60 -h
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: 27 -o
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: is there a trigger setting that only triggers upon output from the mud and not command input?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: using zmud here
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: if i have  a db of mob names and mob areas for a gquest
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: is there a way to call the mob name from the db by referring to its no.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Habasi hopes someone gets nuked so she can move a spot on rank 1.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: in zmud
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: depends on how the db is setup
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: you could likely call it by @rec.key iirc
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: but I could be wrong
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's possible. i tried to do it once, but it's faster to use your head. unless you're trying to write a bot
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: i trying to get it to display to me which portal i should use
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You watch Kitaro tossing gquest tokens going "Here Botty Botty Botty!..".
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Hmm, xbacklight isn't letting me access display 0. How else might I dim the laptop screen in OpenSUSE?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pantsu Nimrodel Tech: i think lcd display brightness properties on laptops are not standard system calls between laptop manufacturers thus for some manufacturer you will need to install their specific kernel module before you can acess and modify the actual hardware setting for screen brightness
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Nimrodel - thanks... let me check dmesg again..
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: should be able to use graphics driver to adjust perceived brightness
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Where might I find it, though? I thought I already installed the nvidia drivers..
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pantsu Nimrodel Tech: but then you'd just get washed out colours
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nvidia control panel
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pantsu Nimrodel Tech: what brand laptop is it?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Tigernuts: I don't find that anywhere... is it in YaST?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Nimrodel: It's LG E310.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i take it you're not using windows
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien nods at Tigernuts.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: linux?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I mentioned OpenSUSE from the start :)
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: heh, missed the start
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien smiles happily.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Well, I have no such problem on my Windows partition.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: linux driver support is generally crap, so there's not a lot i can suggest, except maybe check the nvidia forums
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yeah.. good idea.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I'm going to see if there are any packages containing nvidia things in the repos first... then check the forums.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Bit of an issue with the hotkeys for the laptop as well. Wonder if I could write my own package?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Any OpenSUSE users here?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pantsu Nimrodel Tech: ahh yea, things like brightness for lcd screens on laptops are sent using ACPI calls and most manufacturers use their own arcane version
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I know there's a hotkeys package for IBM laptops, if I recall correctly.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: when you choose to install an OS that isn't supported by the manufacturers, you expect to have problems like this
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's inevitable, really
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thranx Tech: Is OpenSUSE any good?  I've only tried Ubuntu.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i preferred it to ubuntu, thranx
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pantsu Nimrodel Tech: try installing 'acpitool' and fiddling around with it your laptop might be supported
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: haven't used latest suse. fedora 10 is great for beginners tho
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and about support - hardware supports windows, linux supports hardware
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not so
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Nimrodel: Funny thing though, I can't find a brightness file in /proc/acpi anywhere..
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Thranx: I'm still preferring Ubuntu, it's worked great for me for years.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pantsu Nimrodel Tech: yea on my old laptop (asus) i had to install the asus apci kernel module before i had a brightness file as well
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yet I've not managed to boot an Ubuntu on my current laptop - it installs fine but refuses to start.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pantsu Nimrodel Tech: you'd think something like this would be a standard that EVERYONE used
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: So I tried OpenSUSE, and whee.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: "ubuntu" is an ancient african word for describing a person who can't install debian ;)
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Heh, Debian is THAT old?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ubuntu has issues with laptop screens, btw
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gundam Wing Tech: linux mint! xD
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thranx Tech: not all laptop screens.  it works with mine just fine.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: didn't say all
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Never had any with my old laptop... think there might have been a problem with detecting an external screen though.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: But yeah, Tigernuts' point got lost. How is it 'not so'?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i had problem with mine tho using 7.10. got it fixed tho
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Aha.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Nimrodel: you mentioned installing asus acpi before you saw the brightness file...?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: anyway, ubuntu also has terrible sound setup. never figured out why or how, but it just sucks for some reason
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they way you go on, you'd think hardware is designed with windows in mind, it's not.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gundam Wing Tech: what do you mean dagnir?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: depends on the hardware, nuts
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pantsu Nimrodel Tech: yup
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pantsu Nimrodel Tech: after that i could just echo # > /proc.... to set the brightness
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: How do you know if I'd find the right package, though? Did you happen to read about it on some forum? Because I don't think LG is that well supported..
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: sound has always been kind of muffled. never managed to fix it or even find the problem
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: There is stuff for "Toshiba-compatible" laptops, or something..but I really dunno.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gundam Wing Tech: oh, thats odd, works for me :]
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Dagnir: yeah, same here.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: lappie manufacturers generally supply their machines with windows, so tend to only design drivers for windows. Some of the netbooks ship with linux, and therefore you can get linux drivers for them
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: using the same version of pulseaudio with the same kernel on gentoo sounds great
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pantsu Nimrodel Tech: i was looking for what you're trying to do now using the standard tools and found that they just didn't plain work
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Well, laptop manufacturers don't really design the drivers, do they Tigernuts?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: They're provided by the component makers... not by Samsung, LG, Fujitsu et al.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I think the issue might be more of a fear of GPL-contamination causing a reluctance to write drivers for linux.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: usually tailored by the vendors
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: any linux distro has better hardware support out of the box than windows xp/vista/7
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: But most drivers work regardless of which brand laptop it goes in, I would think.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not true, selts
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Any is pushing it... DSL is a bit of a toughie.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: vendors just bundle crap with drivers, not write them
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: heh. maybe not dsl, but any fully installable distro
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Dagnir: you mean support for a wider range of hardware is typically available with linux distros than with Windows XP++?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: ahem, like fuck it is ;)
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir nods.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I'd have to say ATI is a glaring exception though.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: dude, public channel
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I just had a hell of a time getting my sblive working with ubuntu
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, forgot aboot ati
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: as for the x-fi..don't have the energy to even try ;)
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Heh... Chuft just raised another exception.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and most wifi cards
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: well..I happen to be a fan of the creative products, especially the ones with the livedrive things and remotes
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: support for them under linux is terrible
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nvidia chipset and gpu here, so i'm happy
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I think most is stretching it though Tigernuts. I heard bad things about Atheros and Linux, but I've had few problems as I recall.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: of course, I've not used linux much over the years, usually some lack of hardware compatibility does me in and I giv up
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: atheros, you mean the second most popular wireless chipset on the planet?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: ubuntu has been by far my smoothest linux experience to date
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Dagnir: same here. I like how there's the fallback of generic monitor until you install the specific drivers.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pantsu Nimrodel Tech: atheros are about the best supported cards under linux since they actually release specs for their cards and help with driver developement
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Tigernuts: yes, I didn't know that but yes.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: So what if they're the second most popular?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I said, I had few problems with them.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: So that's fine.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I want power and performance, specs released to the public are not my problem..the x-fi series certainly delivers on the performance, it's about the best sound available for the domestic pc budget
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien nods at Iron Duck Chuft.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: same with the creative line historically, but their linux support has always been lacking
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so in answer, no, linux doesn't have better out-of-the-box driver support
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Maybe I could practice writing drivers.. or convince Creative to hire a crack coding team from India to do up Linux drivers.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: well, I don't mind ubuntu running on a spare machine to play with, but it's not my choice of os for a personal desktop machine
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Tigernuts: while I'm still skeptical about Dagnir's claim, I don't think you answered the challenge in any way..
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: mostly due to the lack of any support for my expensive hardware
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: it's only expensive because you bought it at DCS.  shoulda gone to PCW
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the challenge? if offering counterproof isn't enough, then the challenge won't be possible to be made either way
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I would have settled for Ubuntu, Chuft, but then I'm easily satisfied with things that work and I like to tinker around with the computer.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: nogs, it's fine to tinker around on with the machine in my bedroom I remote desktop to
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: whatever the name is for the linux equivalent
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I don't agree, though, that *most* wifi cards have a problem under Linux.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: just not gonna be something I run on my main desktop atm
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: never had a problem with a wifi card on linux
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yeah, it's a little tricky for most.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Almost the same here.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i've had trouble with wifi on every linux install i've tried
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Think there is some sort of bug though, when I restart OpenSUSE instead of shutting down properly it doesn't release control of the wireless card or something.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: linux is fine for a geektoy, and in some server environments, but it needs a better hcl ;)
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Might have been a one-off. Kinda busy doing stuff to test it again.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Tigernuts: may I suggest you've had bad experiences and we've been a little bit luckier then?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'll go and watch the rest of the movie. just want to state that i'm currently using windows and it's the os i use the most, but at least i don't have blind hate for anything else and an urge to troll
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: whether luck or not, trurien, it's still untrue to say that linux has better driver support
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: To be fair, Dagnir, this is one of the best discussions I've had on tech.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: the creative line has been pretty much industry standard on pc for almost 30 years..whether it's the fault of the company or the os is irrelevent, it's the hardware quality that matters to most, not the os
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: does depend on what you mean by "better"
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Tigernuts: I did mention I was skeptical about Dagnir's claim.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: good
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Chuft: I agree.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: if you buy cheap winmodem rubbish or very specialist gear, you probably deserve to be bound to a single OS
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien flashes a mischievous grin at Trashbat! Anipopo.  Hmm. is it time to run and hide?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: people use modems these days?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: and when I tried redhat a couple of years ago, I had a much worse time with hardware support, ubuntu has definately made a lot of progress since my last linux experiment
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: it working on my network being a huge step ;)
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: redhat? the corporate version?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Tigernuts: I'm sure there are some who need to.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: nah, a download 
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: fedora then?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: a few years ago too..can't even remember
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: and slackware about 3 years ago, which I never quite got running on the hardware either
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i installed the latest fedora couple of weeks ago. i'd say it's better than ubuntu now
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Chuft: Yes ... Ubuntu's been an easily recognisable symbol of great improvement in Linux UI / usability I think.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: nogs, ubuntu had a very smooth install process compared to my past experiences
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: though the lack of a root account can be annoying at times
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I didn't like F9 because I couldn't upgrade it automatically from F8 painlessly like I could with Ubuntu..
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Oh, I set it up, Chuft. You can too.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: getting used to the sudo idea now, though, heh
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: why? $sudo su and have fun
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: mostly because it's been 2 years since I used linux as anything other than telnetting to a basic bash shell to perform routine tasks
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I've forgotten a lot and never knew much
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: and it's also way slower than the xp build on that pc :P
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: he's forgotten much. Can't be much left
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: however, that's because I know my way around xp better than a lot of people, and can optimise the hell out of it
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: and know nothing about linx, as stated, thus I have a pretty much out of box install
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: still..the xp build smokes it ;)
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: how can that possibly be true when linux is so well coded?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Any tweaked OS that doesn't outperform an out-of-box install should be uninstalled.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: nothing to do with the coding..xp loads no unneeded services, for example, I am sure ubuntu is loading tons of shit I never use
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: it's because linux as an admin is a new environment to me, pretty much
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Chuft: are you sure XP loads no unneeded services by default? Or is that after you tweak it..
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: after I tweaked the hell out of it
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: it loads tons of crap by default
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ubuntu != linux
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yeah well to be fair, most OSes do because they don't know what exactly you need.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: all out of box os installs do in my experience
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Dagnir: yeah.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Well, it's been fun, but I should get a bit of rest.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: try a custom debian/gentoo install. it will blow any windows version away with performance AND looks
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: xp isn't windows
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: No one said it was, Tigernuts.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: isn't ubuntu a custom debian install?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: was being sarcastic
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: more like a flavour
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I thought ubuntu's ancestry was based on the debian kernel
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: You were?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no such thing as debian kernel
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no such thing as linux
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: debian is nothing like ubuntu
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: well, whatever..like I said, linux not a subject I'm expert on, just working on it
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, it's gnu/linux
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you're smart, have a cookie
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: yes, and server 08 is really nothing like xp, but they share a basic nt kernel
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: windows 7 won't
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thranx Tech: won't what?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: share a basic nt kernel
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: which is not the same thing as a "windows kernel"..that's what I thought the difference was with debian and ubuntu
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: however, I've only been playing with it for a handful of days, I don't claim to know much about it
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: unless microsoft have copped out again - they were SUPPOSED to be rewriting the kernel for windows 7 from scratch
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: which is the point of playing with it
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: heh
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: That's what I heard too, Tigernuts... we won't know until we get it, and even then it's hard to check :P
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: lol, ms writing a new kernel :P
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I don't really care about the os pissing matches..every os has it's place
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: rewriting, tbh
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien rapidly nods twice at Iron Duck Chuft, in complete agreement.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: for my personal entertainment desktop, xp has no contest at this time
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Wait, how is it that I used sudo bash and still I have no permission to access some files?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: no matter what claims are made about linux, the lack of support for my very expensive sound hardware, including amps etc, kinda torpedoes it nicely
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: sudo bash?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: sure, chuft
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and the fact it won't play my games makes it useless for me
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yeah.. I just found a file that's corrupted I think.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i had common everyday hardware and out of the box install in mind
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: yeah, the lack of support for high end games is an issue, too
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: mommie, what's a high end game?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: i only play text-based MUDs, myself
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: oh, dagnir, it's fine for that, pretty much, that's what the test pc next door is
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Dagnir, got a sec?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: aside from the soundcard, which is basically an oldr implementation of the x-fi idea
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: and for some reason, even when it's working, the linux driver is very low quality and staticy
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: how do you build a flea circus? You start from scratch
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I'm wondering if you know what .gvfs might be used for...
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: and it's not the hardware, in the xp boot the hardware is perfectly functiona
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: try google
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: google for 2 hours is how I got the card working at all
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: And how I might fix it if the system only recognises it as a d?????????
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not you, chuft
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: past that point, since it's an old pc hooked up to crap speakers, I didn't really care
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: oh
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Replacement for GnomeVFS it seems.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: All right.. be back in a couple hours.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and this is how you do it. ask google first ;)
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Still. :P
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purple Hazeknight Tech: Anyone using the aard mush?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yes
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purple Hazeknight Tech: Is everything spacing for you? O_o
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: also, the wine website seemed to indicate a distinct lack of zmud support
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: so can't even mud on linux ;)
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purple Hazeknight Tech: Just logged in....nothing's being spaced when I move around. Room desc is followed right after room name, no spacing at all.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cult of Rok Tech: Could always use tintin++. :-P
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: without using an inferior client that lacks proper map support
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: could always use windows xp
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: such as tintin, yes :P
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: never happened to me, did you install any plugins recently?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taemyr Tech: there is a plugin that causes blank lines to be skipped.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: well, inferior is the wrong word, zmud is quite inferior in many respects, but the maps maketh the client
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taemyr Tech: see if it is on.  File->plugins
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darmon Tech: off
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purple Hazeknight Tech: Yeah, that'll do it
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purple Hazeknight Tech: Thanks
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purple Hazeknight Tech: I kept thinking it was MUD-side
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: About to buy a laptop (expensive, $1150 or so) from BestBuy... Should I get an extended warranty? PRP or PSP?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: id get it from the manufacturer
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hail! Ceasar Tech: Everything I hear is don't bother with the extended warranty
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Manufacturer comes with 1-year warranty already if I get it from the store. Gateway sells the same laptop direct from their site for about $300 more than BestBuy.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: eh depends on how extended it is
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: id go for 2 to 3 year coverage, because you probably be buying a new one at that point
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't get extended for desktops...get it for laptops
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Yeah, this is a laptop.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: too much to go wrong in laptops
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: So 2 to 3 year coverage? Product Service Plan? Where they repair it three times and then I get a new one for the same price?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not just extended warranty...get an accidental damage warranty
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Right, accidental was what I was going for... This Dell I'm working on has it's power strip dealy ruined internally, it shorts all power every once in awhile, so I have to buy a new one. Warranty on it died awhile back.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seasoned Justme Tech: quick question - have a player that only sees black on mush - no tells, says or anything, but can apparently read notes and see emotes..  any idea what a next step would be?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: tell/channel triggers
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: Anyone using Mush Client and using either the Campaign noter or Quester noter plugin that can help me change the location of the window?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: zmud users.. i am trying to delete a few characters from a string, by using a variable with value %del( (%1), 11, 2)
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: somehow the %del fails to process the string i input ast the %1 value
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: I'm sure general relativity has a solution
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hail! Ceasar Tech: no, this is specific relativity
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: #var delete %del( (%1), 11, 2)
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: if i input 12345678910111213
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: it gives me %del( (12345678910111213), 11, 2)
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: wierd
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forsaken Tieria Tech: try removing the () from around %1
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: no joy.. its the same
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: any ideas... my grand unified theory doesn't cover that
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: What about that extra space immediately after %del's left parenthesis?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forsaken Tieria Tech: try spelling out delete
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forsaken Tieria Tech: insted of del
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forsaken Tieria Tech: zmud helpfiles are great :)
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: doh wat a retard i was.. the function was %delete not %del
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: haha thx guys
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: Yes, in 5.55 it's %delete as well
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forsaken Tieria Tech: ive made that mistake too :P ismem vs ismember :P
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: Wasn't sure if they shortened it in a later version ;)  What did the problem end up being?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forsaken Tieria Tech: syntaxes are usually in the helpfile
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forsaken Tieria Tech: thats where i got it
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Officer Starling tickles Einstein.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: haha serves me right for shortening the syntax without reading help
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: I believe Einstein owes Tieria a Nobel Prize recommendation.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: indeed. i shall call our new theory the tieria-einstein condensate theory
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forsaken Tieria Tech: i love zmud :P
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: Sounds like it has something to do with tiers.  Does it predict how tiers will ruin the mud in all reference frames?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: aha could very well be
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forsaken Tieria Tech: oh no, i never ruin the mud :)
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Forsaken Tieria giggles.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: I do
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forsaken Tieria Tech: well cut it out :P
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forsaken Tieria Tech: start fixing it :P
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: is there a function for looping in zmud.. i would like to use it to add a certain no. of spaces after a string, dependingon the string length, such that the total no. characters of String+spaces is always the same
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forsaken Tieria Tech: not sure myself, ive written scripts to do things like that for specific layouts, but not sure of a zmud function itself, if you find one let me know :)
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: i think the rudimentary %if can be used very clumsily to loop
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forsaken Tieria Tech: i think thats what i did
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: New laptop with 4GB and 64bit processor... Which OS do I run? Linux isn't an option. :P
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: vista?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Linux is the ONLY option.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Or Windows Beta 7.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: 4GB ram, I mean... Oops XD
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: If Linux isn't an option, what options do you really have left?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: you can get vista 64 for 5 bucks if you buy vista premium
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: I'll have Vista 64, I'm just :/ about using it. And I hear XP on 64 is iffy.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: You don't have to use a 64-bit OS if you don't want to..
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: well, usin 64 bit is better than 32 if the apps are programmed right
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: since function calls use registers for the first 8 arguments or so, and there's 16 registers
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: otherwise it accesses ram for function arguments which is slower
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: 8 arguments in a function call is an aweful lot though already, isn't it?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: not really, there's alot of functions that use close to that much, but even in the function less that has to be stored in ram while operating on the numbers
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Calihan Tech: are there programs that allow you to backup your bios?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: restore point...?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: never heard of one, you can just download it from your motherboard manufacturer and put it on a floppy probably
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i think bios is stored in a small area of electric memory
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: and i think you gotta use windows to run the installers for them
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeon Tech: how do i turn off my big map? I think i might have asked this in the past...
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Calihan Tech: having difficultly locating the manufacturer's bios
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeon Tech: I am using the MUSHclient
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: if you punch in <motherboard type> bios program into google you'll probably get a page from your manufacturer
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Calihan Tech: did that and nada
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: what brand of motherboard?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Calihan Tech: clevo 5600p
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Calihan Tech: it's an orphaned laptop
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: you check out http://www.orphanlaptops.com/5600.htm ?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Calihan Tech: been to orphanlaptops.com but not that page..lemme check it
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Calihan Tech: oh, yeah, I have the page already loaded and it doesn't provide a copy
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: alright, i think there's what you need to find out there, then check for a driver for the mobo type
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: the prostar 5684/5694 thing where you get the version under a keyboard thing
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Calihan Tech: I need a copy to flash.. I believe it caught a nasty virus
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: yeah, make sure you're flashing with the right one though, look for the 56p or n under that 4 screw plate then google prostar 56## bios and you should get some pages
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: or check this out since you said it's a 5600p http://www.pro-star.com/index.cfm?mainpage=download&modelno=5694/5600P
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: the chipset drivers would be it i think
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: then if you're not sure just send an email to them at http://www.pro-star.com/index.cfm?mainpage=contactform&formname=techsup
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Calihan Tech: pro-star is no help either, found it though :)
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Calihan Tech: driverguide.com
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Calihan mutters something quietly to himself.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Calihan Tech: ok, I used to get a checksum error in bios.. now, nothing happens when I hit the power button... lights come on but screen stays blank
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: youre motherboard must be royally screwed
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: your*
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: but bios checksum bad is not good
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: What kind of software could I use on Linux to stream media?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Specifically audio
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: icecast
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik goes, "Hmmmm."
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Icecast is very nice indeed. But you'd have to set it up with something like Winamp.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: i've never used it so no comment
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Err, Icecast is for linux, right?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Can be, I believe.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: it's gpl'ed and there are several ports for various OS
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: so you can port it over to 2 tin cans and a string if you are competent enough :)
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: vlc can also do streaming of some kind or another - but i've never used it for that
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: It'd have to be CLI
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: vlc has multiple interfaces including cli
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Hmm, what protocol is used to stream stuff?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: does notepad++ have a hex editor in it?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Calihan Tech: anyone know transfer speeds for solid state drives?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: If my laptop has an hdmi output, can I just hook it straight up to my tv?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Why does it take noticeably longer to extract two RAR files in parallel instead of two RAR files in succession?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: a lot more swapping occurs in parallel -- unless perhaps using dual processors
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: if the files are relatively large then disk contention is probably the greatest factor
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: the Amiga (probably the earliest multitasking home computer) suffered from this especially in those days when floppy disks were still common
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: 2 cpus still share one IO subsystem, and have to take turns
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: btw cpus on wintel boxen are pretty hot, but the io is still crap and hasnt changed much for years
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: anyway to set a variable/alias within the contents of a variable in mush?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: within the contents of an alias i mean
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: the wintel architecture is an incestuous relationship, intel makes marginal improvements to its chips and ms increases the bloat to negate the improvements and hence creating a vicious circle
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: lmao, so true
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: whats a good music player to listen to realplayer music?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: for windows :p
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: good question i havent bother with realplayer for years....  let me know if you find something aside from the offical player
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: have you tried vlc ?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: vlc?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: vlc is a good freeware player, handles almost everything, i dont know about real tho
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: try Real Alternative (just google search it to find the download)
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypherior Tech: Hey im having a major problem with MUSHclient. I can no longer see colors as they are represented by color). I can only read notes. Messages that use "say" "tell" "gt" ect. no longer show up on my screen. And yes, I have tryed commands like color seegray and have had a long conference with JustMe/ Please Help!
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypherior Tech: Respond Only in notes
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetcuti Tech: im using zmud. i have to change Font size everytime i log into game. is there a way to lock it in so i dont have to keep resetting the font?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: are the (MUDCHAR.DAT or) Zetcuti.MUD  write-protected
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: perhaps you are not saving the changes to the character file (*.MUD or Mudchar.DAT) 
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I have an srt file from which I had to remove a few lines worth of subs (more like 40). Is there a program which will recalibrate the subs without me having to manually change the number of every single sub in the file? >_>'
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: subtitle workshop
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Thanks
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Supernoob Tech: Is anyone here faliliar with MUSHclient?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: many people are
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Supernoob Tech: Well, i have a major problem
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: two posts and still noone can help you...get to the actual issue ;-)
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Supernoob Tech: my main account Zypherior, has experianced a bug where the colors disapear and cant see things like :say", "tell" ect.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, you're justme's friend :-)
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Supernoob Tech: yep
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Supernoob Tech: and im the farthest thing from a scripter youll ever meet
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do you see the contents of the tell, but not the word tell, or do you just get a blank line?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Supernoob Tech: blank line
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Supernoob Tech: on some rare occasions, i can see what I say.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you install any other plugins after installing MUSH?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Supernoob Tech: nope. i dont know how to do that.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, so you installed MUSH and haven't touched anything since?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Supernoob Tech: Yes, several times, also tried other clients but its all te same
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: have you reinstalled mush?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Supernoob Tech: yes
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you do see text, do you see it in different colors, or is everything white?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Supernoob Tech: white
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, you need to turn on colors
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Supernoob Tech: and whenever i start mush, it says "a cannot be found"
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Supernoob Tech: ive tried that
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Supernoob Tech: ive typed colors like 100 times
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: after that, you need to type "colorset status"
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Supernoob Tech: The colors are represented by   ect.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Supernoob Tech: grrrrr R.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Supernoob Tech: let me try that
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's a glitch (with a fix posted) in the chats plugin that it'll hide stuff that is regular white in a channel...
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so with colors off, all channel text is plain white
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can go to file -> plugins, and disable the chats plugin
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Supernoob Tech: ok i typed that, but othing happend
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Supernoob Tech: colorset didnt work
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Supernoob Tech: colorset status **
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and then we can communicate without the issue
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Supernoob Tech: ok
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Supernoob Tech: there is no chat plugin
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aardwolf_Chat
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: hrmmmmm, suitable replacement for a geforce 7800gtx...
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypherior Tech: Ok say something
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hi :-)
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypherior Tech: Hard to make-out but none the less ok!
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypherior Tech: now with the colors
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, now type "colorset status" and see if it lists all the channels
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypherior Tech: all normal
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypherior Tech: all normal
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypherior Tech: "all normal" meaning that everything is still gray, and the colorset status is normal
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, so you don't see the various colors listed at the end of every line?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypherior Tech: all i see is the color's name in gray
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the last word of every line should be colorful
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zypherior (
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, OK, try going to game -> configure -> ANSI colors
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does that show lots of colors in color?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypherior Tech: yes
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is there a checkbox at the bottom of that to use custom?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypherior Tech: yes
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: uncheck that
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypherior Tech: its not checked
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypherior Tech: whenever i click ok on something, it says a is not found
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, weird...no idea what that is
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypherior Tech: sooooo..... im screwed?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is this on vista?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypherior Tech: no xp
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're not screwed, but it'd require someone other than me to fix...at least you can see stuff with the chats plugin disabled
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypherior Tech: Do you know of anybody that can help?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I don't actually use mush, but this issue seems obscure enough to warrant bringing gammon into it himself
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I searched the mushclient site, and "a is not found" doesn't show up anywhere
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypherior Tech: .:(
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can try installing a newer version, instead of just the version from aard's site...try this one: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=9264
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypherior Tech: So, no more suggests?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that was a suggestion :-)
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypherior Tech: sorry i didnt see that it blended iin
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just for fun, try typing "initaard full"
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypherior Tech: Well, like i said, it happens on all clients
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err initfull
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, wait, I missed you saying it happens on all clients...you mean even when you telnet into aard you get this behavior?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypherior Tech: WTF?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypherior Tech: YES
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if telnetting into aard has it behave like that, then it has nothing to do with MUSH...
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and we need to look further at your character's settings
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypherior Tech: dun dun duuuuuun
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypherior Tech: this would be a great movie
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypherior Tech: so now what
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypherior Tech: ill brb
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypherior Tech: back
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, type color until it says that colors are on (not sure which status it was left in)
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypherior Tech: Hello?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you ensure that colors are on?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypherior Tech: yes 
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypherior Tech: i typed all of the color commands
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ok, when you type colorset colors, does it display in color
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypherior Tech: nope
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not all of the color commands, don't get ahead...one step at a time...just type color
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what did it say when you typed color
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypherior Tech: i did it said colors are now on in gray
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it said colors are now on, then they had been off
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in windows, is your desktop in color?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypherior Tech: no i had done this multiple times and they were on 2 start with
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypherior Tech: I have 3 tabs p. Aardwolf, stats and map. Stats is in full color. the other 2 arnt
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, so you've disabled bigmap as well at some point
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypherior Tech: Yes i h8  big map!
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: until you get to vidblain, but anyway...open up a windows command prompt (start -> run, type  cmd and hit enter)
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypherior Tech: lol hold on
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypherior Tech: Ok what did that do?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: now type "telnet aardmud.org 4000" and log in...it'll replace your MUSH session
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypherior Tech: Ok what did that do?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypherior Tech: ok
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type colorset colors...plain?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypherior Tech: plain...
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}@GTech@w: @ctype "rawcolors", followed by "colorset colors"@w
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}@GZypherior Tech@w: @cPlain...@w
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does that look weird with @Y and stuff?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypherior Tech: ITS FIXED!
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypherior Tech: YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypherior Tech: YAYAYAYAYAY
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when everything looked grey, did you see @codes all over the place?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypherior Tech: YES
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ya could've mentioned that at some point ;-)
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypherior Tech: i did
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: he did abe
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypherior Tech: RAFL!
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I never saw that mentioned, otherwise I would've immediately known what the issue was
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypherior Tech: How do i get all of the colors back 2 normal?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i was afk off and on and i saw it
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypherior Tech: the yelows look like mustard
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have MUSHclient connect again, then go to game -> configure -> ANSI colors
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: click on the yellow and you can choose how you want it to look
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypherior Tech: A was not fouuns
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: dont mess with too many colors tho it can cause problems
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no it can't, hellfiend
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: if u have them too screwed up it can complicate your triggers and stuff
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i shud know i had the problem
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypherior Tech: also how do i turn {chan ch=tech} off?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it can't
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypherior Tech: fight, fight, fight
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type tags channels off
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypherior Tech: a
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: it can if u have ur triggers set to color ocding
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: coding*
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: triggers don't know what display the color uses...they know the ANSI code...you're not changing that...so NO, it can NOT
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypherior Tech: oooooooooooooh burnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: dudde i had the problem SO YES I CAN!!!
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: using colorset to change what color a channel is using, when you rely on a particular color code, would break
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: it*
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it cannot...you just don't know what problem you actually had
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypherior Tech: yo mama battle!
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: just come out with it and call me a dumbass then 
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: changing things in MUSH's settings will have ZERO impact on your triggers
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darmon Tech: off
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: changing MUD settings can break triggers
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: much different things
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: it did too. i know what the problem was and i fixed it and guess what...it was the color issues
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You pat Hellfiend on his head.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypherior Tech: so how do i change colors?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it makes you feel better to believe that...
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hellfiend smiles triumphantly as he subdues you and forces a gag into your mouth.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darmon Tech: off
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: darmon, just type "tech"
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no on/off...it's a toggle
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: zypherior, if you click "lighter", does it change the color or give you the can't find error?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypherior Tech: lighter isnt a command
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: click, not type
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in game -> configure -> ANSI colors
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypherior Tech: "a isnt found! i cant save nething.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: when u co to configer ANSI IT HAS THE CHOICE OF LIGHTER CLICK IT
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: srry hit caps lock
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypherior Tech: sorry i was questing, now what do i click?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: lighter
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can use "tech -h 20" to see the last 20 things on the channel
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypherior Tech: "a is not found". i cant save anything
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You wave a large bright rainbow sign reading "UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH"
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: mis?
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Habasi goes, 'You just got PWNED!'
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope, not mis
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypherior Tech: grrrrrrrr
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just celebrating his colors
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Habasi points at you threateningly, screaming out, "LIES!"
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: sure.... lol
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: With a sick, evil grin, Hellfiend runs up to Habasi and pants her.
T1/r5/2009-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for the "a is not found" issue, you'll do best by posting to the MUSHclient forums, if installing the version from http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=9264 doesn't help it
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: huckleberry, tinyfugue is a geek's client...powerful as all heck, but not a good fit for those that aren't comfortable in the command line
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: using the aard mushclient, i want to read the map legend in 'help map' but the help plugin strips the colours.
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: disable that plugin
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: file -> plugins
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: that easy, huh. k.  thanks :)
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's the aardwolf_help plugin
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: odd, had to load plugins three times to see them.  oh well, it works (or rather doesn't) now.
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what plugins are in the list would depend on what "world" is in front...
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all of the windows you see (Aardwolf, Chats, Map, etc) are worlds
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you want to have the main MUD in front when you select plugins
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: ahhha.  I see.  I probably had chats as the 'active'/top world.  thanks.
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: is there a way to run multiple instances of zmud on the same system
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: no.
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You can open up different sessions, however, they'll all be under the same main window.
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: whats the command in a batch file to wait like x seconds... alternative to pause
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amigan Tech: I don't think there is one =(
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: isnt it Wait X
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: its Sleep
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: found it
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: if I installed my mudclient to a U3 enabld drive would I be able to use it wherever I go ?
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: from my experience with my u3 drive i had, yes.
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Depends on the MUD client and the OS's that you use the drive on, but most likely yes
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: as long as the program was written with u3 in mind
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: programs must be u3-enabled iirc
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: nod. pretty sure U3 is restricted to windows
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: and only back to like ME/2003
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik winces in agony.
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: is it possible to do this to move the pointer? ( char *pt = "hello"
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I'm guessing there's more lines? ;)
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: dang the ; :P
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Ahh :)
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: but no lol..thats about it..heh :D
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: That doesn't move any pointer, afaik
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: ah dang. mmm any idea how to "move" the pointer in c?
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: write it in C# hang the pointers?
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: write it in C# (and) hang the pointers?
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: mm only in C.. no idea whats hanging either lol. nvm i'll go search google lol thanks though :D
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: lol.. sorry. 'hang the pointers' was meant to say, don't use pointers.  sorry.
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: oh :P nah we're asked to use pointers ): 
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: sadly lol
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Well one way to move the pointer is the increment the address
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I don't know if that's the proper way though
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: when you say 'move' the pointer, do you want to just reassign to some other piece of memory?  Or are you just trying to advance from one struct to the next, like pointer arithmetic?
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Crieus nods at Rathik.
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Echosa Tech: I'm currently logged into the flash client. I use Mac OS X. I'm looking for a mac client (or something in port, like tinyfugue or gnome-mud) that supports mccp and the map plugins and stuff. Any suggestions?
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: TinyFugue works on Mac
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd suggest the MUSHclient from aard's site, under parallels, VirtualPC, VMWare Fusion or even Darwine
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Everyone who I've spoken to who's used the native GUI Mac clients says they are pretty bad
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Echosa Tech: this I know, and I can install it with macports. Also, I know it works with mccp. but can it make use of plugins to separate the maps and such?
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: You might want to follow Abe's recommendation if you want to do that
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Echosa Tech: I've tried MUSHclient under wine but everytime I switch tabs (main, chat, map, etc) the entire program window moves down the screen a notch.
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tf works fine on MacOSX, even compiles clean with XCode, and yes, you can use map "plugins" (scripts)...but most people that use the Mac don't do well with non-gui clients ;-)
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Echosa Tech: ok, so for the cool map plugins and stuff, I pretty much have to use the aardwolf specific MUSHclient?
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger me for some tinyfugue scripts (including automap in a separate window) if you do go that route
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Echosa Tech: well, I'm used to linux and telnet :)
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but yeah, if you like "Mac-like stuff", zmud or MUSH under an emulator would be best
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for doing things like maps in separate windows, my stuff pretty much just uses a separate xterm to display them
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Echosa Tech: do you use tf?
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, tinyfugue's my preferred client on all OSes
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon noddles her head in agreement.
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Echosa Tech: excellent, I like cross-platform (emacs ftw)
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik frowns.
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, nothing touches BBEdit for an editor :P
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Echosa Tech: and the fact that its console based is even better, and the fact that it supports mccp and script plugs.... sounds perfect for aardwolf 
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: anyone use vlc media player?
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Echosa Tech: we won't get into the editor debate here lol
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I do.... but, heh, how did you come to name your character?
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Echosa Tech: rathik: me?
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, I think that was to stapleface
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: No, Stapleface ;)
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Echosa Tech: ah so I see
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Echosa Tech: and for the record I use mplayer :)
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon is using mplayer at this moment.
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik is using Winamp, like a noob. :(
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Echosa Tech: nothign wrong with winamp... if you're using *ick* Windows.... lol 
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I love Winamp actually, ever since 5.5. It's vastly improved from the previous versions.
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Echosa Tech: re: editors.... http://xkcd.com/378/ ^_^
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Echosa Tech: oh no doubt. its way better than it used to be, and I worshiped it even back then
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suxalot Tech: winamp whips a llama's butt
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Echosa Tech: <insert llama bleat here>
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Echosa Tech: tf installed via macports... off I go to rtfm and figure out how to use and script it :)
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Echosa Tech: huzzah... first time trying out tf
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: *Yay!*  Go Echosa!!!  Trurien cheers him on.
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loira Tech: wow, what the heck happened to my prompt I'm getting way tf to much info...
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: tags off
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: If you tried the Aardwolf client, then switched back, that happens.
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: anyone know how windows 7 works with dialup, connect as easily as vista?
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loira Tech: thanks, it's been a long time since I could connect to Aardwolf.
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Anyone know what stuff I should install in OpenSUSE to fix "No outputs have backlight property" ?
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twin Blade Zayd Tech: Heya! Never been much for this stuff, but... my [i] key is dead... So I need to learn how to set up macros n' what not so that I can use commands without it. 
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twin Blade Zayd Tech: so, 'm usng, darn, t completely stopped now...
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: new keyboard and or clean the kewboard
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twin Blade Zayd Tech: use n' Mushclent. How would one go about turn n' kk <mob> n' to kick <mob>... squeezed another keystroke out! XD
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twin Blade Zayd Tech: Nvm, managed to sort that out myself... 
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: lets say i store a 10 sets of key - value pairs in a variable in zmud
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: how do i call up the value of a key and the value from the variable using its number?
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: in lua it's var[key]
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: i don't think zmud uses lua..
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: so you have like, #var key {somevar} #var somevar {value}, or using actual database?
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: using the variables
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: i'm not too sure how to build a database in zmud heh
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: ey}
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: AT{ATkey}
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: where at is an at sign :p
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: @
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cult of Rok Tech: Type @@ to get @.
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: thanks
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: @{@key}
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: hmm so what will that do?
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: give you the value stored in somevar
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: hmm i was trying to ask if i could refer to the key.. which is a string.. by its number in the array and use the number to call the key's value
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: your using arrays or list? , be easier with list
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: using array
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: would it be possible to do what i described with list?
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: yeah if you have list of keys, and a list of values, you could do 
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: isn't that a hashtable 
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: %item(@values, %ismember(YOURKEY,@keys))
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: nice that helped.. thx 
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: i think with the array you would have to loop through it find the index and use it on the value list not sure dont really use em
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: oh ok.. i was just using arrays coz i was basing my new script on another script tt i download
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: What's the word for a file being two different file types at the same time?
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humpton Tech: lucky?
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: how do i configure how many characters are displayed on one line? as well as in the chat window? (MUSH)
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: why would i not be able to ./configure on my mac to install tf
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: any suggestions
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magish Tech: Seregil, here's the trigger:
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magish Tech: "* DISARMS you and you struggle not to drop your weapon!"
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Oh god.
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magish Tech: without the ""
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: %1 disarms you
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Heh. You don't need the * in the beginning.
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: Just get bracers of iron grip.  Problem solved.
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: that only works if you are using an aardweapon
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Don't do  in trigger patterns. That's a bad, bad thing.
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Er, %1.
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: you mean person u just made me type 4 lines out of no reason
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magish Tech: I was trying to give him a relatively simple one... :P
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Killhappy Instant Tech: can anyone here help me with mushclient bugs?
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: what bugs?
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Killhappy Instant Tech: or is there a patched up and debugged version of mushclient
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: gotta be specific
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Killhappy Instant Tech: chat messages dont show up :P
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: in the seperate window?
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's not a mushclient bug...
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Killhappy Instant Tech: nah
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: If you are talking about the Aardwolf MUSHclient, it's just perpetually buggy
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: The plugins aren't ever fixed afaik
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: and u can see what we are saying so u can see chats somehow
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: i never have problems with aardmush
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: me either
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Killhappy Instant Tech: like, when i type music <<msg>>, i cant see the name of the person sending the message
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're having issues with white stuff on channels, type "board tech", followed by "note read 4554", "note read 4555", and "note read 4556"
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Killhappy Instant Tech: I read them.
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Killhappy Instant Tech: dunno how to fix it in.
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: it would help to know if you're using a specific version of windows, linux, any special runtime environment blah blah blah
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make that change
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah drachon, he already gave us enough info
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: oh. well. pardon me then. hehe.... 
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's an issue with the as-shipped chats plugin from the aardwolf MUSHclient, it's well-known
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: I'm wearing black socks, does that help solve the issue?
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hmm. You could swear Remind Hargreaves has been here just a second ago. You wonder where he went ...
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Killhappy Instant Tech: I dont know how to fix it.
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Killhappy Instant Tech: I read it, and decided I have no clue.
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, in note 4555, it says to open the file C:\Program Files\MUSHclient\worlds\plugins\Aardwolf\Aardwolf_chats.xml with notepad first
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then use notepad's search to find "get rid of tag"
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Killhappy Instant Tech: aiite
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Killhappy Instant Tech: table.remove (styles, 1)  -- get rid of tag
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Killhappy Instant Tech: is that it?
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: replace that one line with 4 lines that are in note 4554
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Killhappy Instant Tech: okay, saved and exited.
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Killhappy Instant Tech: restart mush?
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Killhappy Instant Tech: yayy it works.
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Killhappy Instant Tech: thanks mate.
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Killhappy Instant Tech: your a leg.
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the issue is that the chats plugin is using, and hiding, the tags...on channels, your client really sees {chan ch=tech}
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the code to hide those was originally sloppy, and said "tags are always white, and channels are usually colored, we'll just hide the white stuff"
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so while there are newer versions of MUSH, which do have some bugfixes, it wasn't a MUSH issue, but an issue with a plugin that wouldn't be changed in a newer version of MUSH (since only the installer from the Aard site has these plugins)
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: why would when i run my mouse over the file edit view settings etc. tabs on zmud would it decrease the size of the window?
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: anyone have any ideas?
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hail! Ceasar Tech: Holy cow.  I have a webpage giving a javascript error, and it says it's on line 428904218.
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hail! Ceasar Tech: They need to split up their javascript files :P
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik noddles in total agreement at Hail! Ceasar.
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parzifal Tech: hah yah someone needs to learn how to writes read file classes
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hail! Ceasar Tech: Might explain why my computer had to expand its page file :P
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parzifal Tech: lol yeah.  definitely
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: does anyone else run windows 7?
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Muesli Tech: I do..
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I do, why?
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I have it on my secondary partition, but I don't use it regularly - why?
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: have you tried it on dialup yet? i seem to be getting a really shitty ocnnection. worse than vista or xp
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: No cursing on this channel, please.
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: dial up still exists?
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: hehe i hafta use it at work
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: im sorry...
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: whats a good computer ethical issue that hasn't been beaten to death recently (pirating)?
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: IP monitoring
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: Free software vs. non-free software
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: Moderating
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: hows that an ethical dilemma starling?
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: net neutrality
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: monitoring might be interesting
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: http://www.internetnews.com/software/article.php/3803026
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: if by interesting you mean an invasion of privacy, sure
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: if by interesting, i mean interesting to read about and give a report on, sure.
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: havent all tech issues been beaten to death?
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: Should program authors keep the source code to themselves, or should they release it?  I don't know, I'm there's some ethical argument to be found there.
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: not all of them
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: i guess ill do monitoring, my presentation is tomorrow lol
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: thanks.
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: uh-huh
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: anyone know a way to edit pdf files and whatnot to format the text differently to put books on an ereader?
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: not without adobe standard at least, and probably professional
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: won't let us.
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: all pro lets us do is change basic info in it, not like font size, page size, etc
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: it's not your pdf?
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: no. it's a book we downloaded off an author's website
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: he posts his works online and instead of printing the thing out we just bought an ereader, but it's not displaying properly
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Get PalmPDF to convert for you.
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: is there a save as option for the file format?
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: (shrug) i could only guess.  Charneus' 3rd party tool sounds like a good plan.  never used it myself.
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It's freeware, and converts pdfs to eReader format.
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Avatar Aang Tech: Does anyone know how to run zmud as administrator through Crossover?
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skinner Tech: any flash pros out here?
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feiros Tech: any way to make an alias that remembers what I have in second and reequips that? for portal aliases
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: only got one complaint about ms word 2007
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they should leave the bloody window bar alone, disguising it is annoying
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: it's crap?
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: that bloody paperclip
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no, it's actually very good
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I find it very annoying really, microsoft need to stop bloody moving things around for the sake of it
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: still, for a word processor it beats the linux offerings fairly soundly ;)
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: how else do they make you think it's worthwhile "upgrading"
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: chuft, how does microsoft office beat openoffice? they do the same thing o.O
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nogs, still beats open orrifice
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: they reorganize it based one where they think it should go logically, becauset he first person didnt logically design it
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: mostly because I'm used to ms office ;)
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: drachon, doing the same thing, and doing things well are different ideas entirely
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: that sounds like ignorance and preference speaking, no offense. but not the products fault
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ms office is a whole lot faster than openoffice
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: yep, so? it's only a damn office suite, can't really get excited about debating it :P
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: OOo relies too much on java
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: i'm an open source, linux kind of guy. just to put that out there. i believe in doing things well, doing things right, and not having bugs. :)
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I like java
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: no the coffee chuft
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: not*
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: they made some stupid decisions, like using a java based DB instead of using the arguably much better/mature/lighter sqlite
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: yes, doubtless the language which I studied for years as part of my degree program, thanks for the clarifation
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: no problem
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: you java hax0r you
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: not really, never used it since
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: calling sqlite mature has to be a joke
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: apparently windows 7 is going to have a wipe-clean desktop for people who surf the net for porn
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: will it come with a pack of wipes?
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: You'll be taken care of then, eh Tiger? :P
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: in comparison to the thing they using now it is more mature
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i just moved the screens back, starling
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: what kind of wiping?
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: baby wipes? it is soft on the skin?
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: and gentle?
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what's the best way of cleaning PC components these days, ultrasonic tank?
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: spit and polish
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: pee on it
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: wish there was a channel where when you ask a question you dont get these stupid remarks but real answers instead :p
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: those dont exist
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: lol. i just use cans of air and a soft cloth
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snagandorf Tech: whatever you do, do not leave your hand in the ultrasonic tank, it'l shake the calcium right out of your bones
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: won't be good enough
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: these days parts are obsolete before they get dirty
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Drachon nods at Yhogurk.
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: ok... elaborate on clean it then.. cause if it needs more than air or a soft cloth to wipe it off you've let it go for waaay too long
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: either that, or your kid thought the computer was hungry for a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: why would you leave your computer in the reach of a child or a woman for that matter
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snagandorf Tech: if it's got some sort of gunk on it, try rinsing it with DISTILLED water
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: eh.. i'd use alcohol... it'll evap faster
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: get like 90% isopropyl
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: just don't light a match around it... hehe
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snagandorf Tech: is isopropal non-conductive?
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: no
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: dunno. i used to use it on my NES. :p
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: weren't NES machines the ones that you had to give blowjobs to make them work?
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: my lips hurt..
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snagandorf Tech: the key to distilled water is that it will not conduct electricity, and will not corrode the parts while your waiting for it to dry
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: isopropanol evaporated quick, that's why it's good to use it on electronics
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: but once something dissolves in water, it becomes conductive
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: so sugar water is conductive?
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: sounds very time-intensive, if i'm cleaning up water-damaged equipment, i'd rather a stripdown, chuck it in the tank, let it get on with it
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: ..distilled water won't conduct electricity? bollocks it won't :P
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i know. lol
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Workaholic Timeghost Tech: pure distilled water isn't a good conductor, no
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: deja vu, we had this discussion a while back
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: the only problem i see with putting sensitive components like a computer parts in a ultrasonic cleaning tank is that it might shake loose or adjust some parts that would make the computer part not function like it should.
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i thought ultrasonic tanks were designed with pcb's and jewelery in mind/
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: maybe it might wiggle loose a connection on an ic chip, or turn a variable resistor, or some such.
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: they were designed for jewelry foremost i thought.
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: and spectacles
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Workaholic Timeghost Tech: my children will only play this sort of tetris :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7QF97oJ9Ic&feature=related
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miquiz Tetzahuitl Tech: Hexic is really fun, created by the same author as tetris (whatever his name was)
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taemyr Tech: In mushclient, can I make an alias depend on a variable.  Ie. if I have a variable storing the name of my secondary weapon I want to have an alias for dual {that weapon}.
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: is there any way that if using .htaccess for username/password to set it so that when someone clicks cancel it redirects them to a page rather then giving an error
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: anyone have any advice on recovering stuff from a dead external hdd? the partition table is gone and it probably has bad sectors. can't initialize it, can't mount it. i'm tired of trying out different recovery tools already...
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also, it might have naked pictures of the owner on it (a good looking girl) and i promise to share them, if found :)
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lother Tech: heh, thats what i went threw when mine ment, i couldnt find any program to help but hopefully someone can give ya a hand.
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lother Tech: didnt have any naked pictures on it thou.
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: heh. my own drive had died on me last week while i was away. didn't boot, mbr dead and partition table gone. managed to restore everything with no loss, but this one is tough
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lother Tech: what brand is it?
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no idea. qt-something
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: noname. it's from a hp laptop made external with ide->usb box
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Drachon bites his tongue at the mention of a failed piece of HP equipment.
T1/r5/2009-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fachtna Tech: is there a plugin or script for mushclient for skinning?
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feiros Tech: I have one I found on mushplugin homepage wondering if there are other good scripts
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Workaholic Timeghost Tech: what's this "Windows Genuine Advantage" nonsence?
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: it verifies you have a genuine copy of windows and not a pirated one so you can get updates and such
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Breast Feeder Tech: Basically copy protection, will disable software etc if you don't let it connect and identify itself
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Workaholic Timeghost Tech: seems like Windows Update shoves it down users' throats forcefully, doesn't allow to get rid of it, and a friend is complaining it's slowing his computer down to a halt
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Breast Feeder Tech: hmm i have never had it slow me down, thats unusual... i wonder if he has some sort of spyware disguising itself as it
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Workaholic Timeghost Tech: Norton Antivirus updated and running there, claims Norton seems content with what's around
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: He runs Norton and complains about something else slowing his pc down?
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Workaholic Timeghost Tech: after the last Windows Update that installed WGA the computer is essentially inoperable tho - takes eons to do anything
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: get LGA! - http://www.linuxgenuineadvantage.org/
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Workaholic Timeghost Tech: any way to actually get rid of WGA beyond version 1.5.xxxxx.xx?
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Workaholic Timeghost Tech: my Linux is genuine by design thank you
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: wga can be disabled.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: I forget how, but a google search will yield results.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Workaholic Timeghost Tech: how? the M$ web site lists instructions for WGA v1.5.xxxxx.xx - but not later versions
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Workaholic Timeghost Tech: and on M$ support forums the M$ answer always is "we won't tell"
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: ms isn't going tell you.  frikkin' ask google.  it's still *there* but does not run in background, has to be repeated periodically because windows update has to reactivate it for certain updates, I think it involves stopping a service.  did it on mom's windows machine.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Workaholic Timeghost Tech: I'll check. Seriously tho, I'll secretly be taking my SuSE DVD around to install a normal OS and give it the Winblows polish - my non-tech friends will never notice the difference.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i call it $u$e because they're making money. that'll show them!
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta  does not consider a novell product an improvement over microsoft.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: (and meanwhile continue to use their software)
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nove## :P
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Workaholic Timeghost Tech: Novell takeover wasn't bad actually
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Workaholic Timeghost Tech: the 10.x sucked because of the ZMD shit, but Novell took it back, after all - SuSE is as snappy and as flashy as ever before.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: never liked $u$e too much
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Workaholic Timeghost Tech: the sec-team staff are also the same - Marcus Meissner as helpful as ever, and so on. SuSE is an excellent product - even after Novell bought it.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Workaholic Timeghost Tech: I run openSUSE for many years - and I'm very happy with it.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'll stick with debian :)
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Workaholic Timeghost Tech: Mandrake died a painful death, RedHat aborted Fedora onto us - now THAT is "making money" - Ubuntu is pretty much an infant
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Workaholic Timeghost Tech: Debian's good too, nod
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: fedora 10 is nice
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Workaholic Timeghost Tech: Fedora is a RH abortion - they outright use it to test shit before it goes into RHEL
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: sorry, i mean fdora
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: damn. euro sign is not coming through
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that won't show them :(
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: last red hat i used was 6
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: same when redhay 7 sucked hard with all the security flaws i looked around and discovered debian  =)
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i hear centos is good if you are a redhat junkie and poor
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: is there a way in excell to remove cells that equal each other?
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: you mean like, duplicates?
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: yes :)
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: guess not :P
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i know i can use access (MS office application) for my database needs... can i also use openoffice?
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: does it have a comparable, compatible application?
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: in relation to cmud/zmud
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: context helps...
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars sighs.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: google is your friend: http://www.openoffice.org/FAQs/ms-access/ms-access.html
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: you don't want to be using access to edit your cmud/zmud map files anyways.... i'm fairly sure.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: not for map files
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for database access, mike
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: map files are saved as .mdb files
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: zmud has database features that work better when not using its built-in database
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: ok, well
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: there you go.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i have no pre-existing database to acces, i'm trying to use an outside database to play around with a few things and what not, and i don't have access and it costs $500 to get (worst case scenerio).. and i'd rather not just "steal" it..
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: thanks for the link, i'll see if it does what i want
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cult of Rok Tech: So 'borrow' it?
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars ruffles Cult of Rok's hair playfully.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's called stealing, rok :P
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cult of Rok Tech: Not if you delete it at a later point in time.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: hah send it back after using it with a letter 'i stole your _whatevre you guys are talking about now_' :P
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cult of Rok Tech: So what if that later point in time is 900 years.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, even if you delete it at a later point in time
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: heh. found my new favourite thing - www.lmgtfy.com
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: you can download MS Sql Server Express for free, maybe that will work for you
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: abe, any idea if openoffice has an application i could use in place of access?  i'm pretty new to this approach, and last time i tried doing anything via database i used cmud's built in database and it was slow/sucked...
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: well there's a thought
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: openoffice base
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm not sure what all is needed by zmud, if it can just write access files even without access
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: manages databases
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: worst case, mysql :-)
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: openoffice == free
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: mysql is too, right?
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: whats wrong with mysql
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: no one has actually said anything bad about it yet
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: im using mysql :\
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: but thanks for rushing to defend it
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: what do you use it for?
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: aard db
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nothing's wrong with it at all, but it may be a bit of overkill just for zmud's database needs
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: its fast and im used to it thats why i use it :) i use it for a couple of other things anyway so i might as well use it for aard too
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: and sorry im not saying you guys said something bad about it, I just saw abelinc said worst case mysql or something :P I'm not really following the conversation all that much :)
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i'm not familiar with any database applications really... i've only used access for very trivial things that, honestly, excel could have handled
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: you can use a free gui for the sql too, makes it really easy to begin and use
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, I was recommending it if he didn't find something more appropriate in an office-level application
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: ...i have all kinds of unused space on my computer too, i'm not afraid of the idea of getting both and just comparing as i go
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: but eh, we'll see
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: thanks for the help guys
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: good luck :-)
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i'll need it :)
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i should really get a seedbox
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars sighs.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: i've been pretty happy with postgres
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: i'm a db noob, it was easy enuff to figure out and there was a free GUI tool that came for it
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: mysql + phpMyAdmin
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purple Hazeknight Tech: what's the command to stop displaying chats in the main window?
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purple Hazeknight Tech: for the Aaardwolf mushclient
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: file->plugins->show info
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: chats ech off
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: ech0 off
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purple Hazeknight Tech: that's it
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: which one?
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the "chats echo off" one, which is found at http://www.aardwolf.com/play/plugins.htm...http://www.aardwolf.com/play/clientfaq.htm is another good page to look at
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: sweet i was actually helpful
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a good portion of Aard MUSHclient questions are answered on one of those 2 pages
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: give a man a fish he eats today, teach him to fish and you dont have to say RTFM anymore
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: lol
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hellfiend laughs out loud.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: when you have a web hosting, how do you reference a link so it will open up in a directory view and list the contents?
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's done it htaccess
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: so if I have a folder called "includes" for my main site, i want to be able to go to www.mainsite.com/includes and have it show thed contents
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: can you expand on that dagnir?
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=htaccess
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i meant done in htacces. hope you found something
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: mm, laser printer ozone smell
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Indrid Tech: Any native ports of aardclient 2 linux?
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iceman Tech: lol.. short and sweet
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iceman ruffles Seltsimees Dagnir's hair playfully.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i think it went oss, so it might happen. i'm just guessing and really have no idea
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Indrid Tech: so wine is my only option... :(
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: use tinifugue
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: tiny*
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Indrid Tech: meh, i have a client jst figured id ask for ease of use with all the nifty plugins.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: it runs reasonably well in wine, although I would use windows to drive it, given the option
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I found that the help plugin crashed wine, but the rest worked fine
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: use zmud and install windows
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Indrid Tech: ill jst run a vbox of windows.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I use rdesktop to a windows box on linux
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Indrid Tech: i dont actually hav a windows box. 
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Indrid Tech: only time i use windows is in a virtual machine. 
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: that, of course, makes it harder:-)
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: a VM should work fine, though, as there is nothing complicated going on
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Indrid Tech: thanks 4 the answers. :) I gotta go 2 work. Playerbase and help here is the friendliest iv ever seen on a MUD> 
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: come back during a linux vs windows flamewar ;)
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Indrid Tech: baha. shld be no flame involved. cuz TUX rules. and winblows is just winblows.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: shrug, i watch every day as people say "<x> won't work on linux, <y> won't work on wine, How can I get <z> to work?"
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: thow that bomb and leave?
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: same old same old, if you use linux, expect to have problems, and expect to be required to have the knowledge to sort it out yourself
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i see people do the same thing with windows installs every day, so what?
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah. just like any other os
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: far more the case with linux, dagnir
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Indrid Tech: alot of new distros have done a great job of "dumbing" things down (for lack of better term) specially debian based distros
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Indrid Tech: apt-get and the GUI interfaces they have made jst works. "ITS JUST WORKS". :)
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not far more. the problems are different and most new users aren't familiar with them
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: if you use windows, expect to have problems, and expect to be required to have the knowledge to sort it out yourself
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: lool
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: can't remember seeing anyone have problems installing zmud on xp
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i had no probs installing kildclient on ubuntu using synaptic
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: can't remember anyone having problems installing tinyfugue on debian
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: only problems you see are people installing non-native programs on linux
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Indrid Tech: nahh. granted the client selection in the defualt repos is limited but 
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Indrid Tech: wine does work well, and winedoors is a nifty app 4 new linus users. 
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it'll never be even remotely as good as the real thing
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: far better using a dual boot or a vm system
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Indrid Tech: exacly why i use VM. :)
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i still don't understand why people want to use windows software under linux when there are better native alternatives available
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Indrid Tech: i agree. 100%
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you're living in a dreamland if you think openoffice is better than m$
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Indrid Tech: obviously aside from aardclient
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ditto with zmud vs tinyfugue
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Indrid Tech: i prefer openoffice. :)
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because the definition of "better" varies...I'm the only one that has released any public scripts for a non-Windows client
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can prefer openoffice, but you can't rely on it to run a business where people from other companies send you files
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nothing in o/o to touch publisher or visio, either
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Indrid Tech: i havnt had any issues opening ms formated documents
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: as well as the word processor and excel being second class
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i started playing around with tinyfugue and it's faster than zmud and has more powerful scripting. that's 'better' for me and i'm planning to switch soon
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dag, you're a geek...tf fits :-)
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Indrid Tech: actually my professor introduced me 2 a linux + windows port of an app that was alt 2 visio that he claimed 2 much more powerful ill hav 2 dig it up. 
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: call me when TF has a mapper
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: my zmud has become sluggish under the script i've written. don't feel like optimizing it and planning to rewrite the whole thing in perl/python
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not everyone running linux is...I love tinyfugue and will always use it, but I know it's definitely not for everyone
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: never used a mapper
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: pretty much all mudclients are the same these days, they all have triggers and macros etc....  only 1 stands out
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, indrid, the reason that you haven't had problems opening an office-formatted document is because you're under the impression that business-critical documents just means some guy's resume or word paper
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nogs, zmud has that mapper
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's what happens when you're still in college
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Indrid Tech: well i mean the standards. word/excel/powerpoint. :)
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Indrid Tech: im not in college
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i tend to send all external documents in pdf format these days
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you have high school professors?
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: does that make me a mac-junkie?
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Indrid Tech: heh no. 
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Indrid Tech: i dropped out took a few years of college, dropped out. :)
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tigernuts, pdf is is only good if a printout is the goal...they're useless for an actual information transfer
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well i guess it depends on what the purpose of the document is
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Indrid Tech: but i rly do need 2 be off 2 work. good chat, see sum of u later.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the business world, the documents will actually be data that must be touched by both parties
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and excel files that aren't just a simple table won't work well
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nogsl
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: should I be worried when I'm looking down at the lcd monitor and seeing areas fully purple while the rest show up just fine? (Shows up at windows login)
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aterius Tech: Guess who figured out how to play this using their netbook and iPhone internet connection....? :)
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: amazing!!1one
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: didn't want to be too sarcastic, but is it really that difficult?
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aterius Tech: I just like beating AT&T when they tell me I'm not allowed to do with the internet I pay for...
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, so the jesusphone is crippled or what?
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aterius Tech: Not anymore it isn't :)  I was watching Family guy on Hulu with it... 
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i like my hermes. it's ugly and sometimes pita to use but i can do stuff with it.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokian Tech: anyone use cmud?
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: shucks, quake won't run on my xp machine ;-)
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: Old Quake?  New Quake? ;-)
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: old quake
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: Ah, that brings back memories of college frag-fests... 
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feiros Tech: what does this mean? "Invalid directions in command."
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feiros Tech: tried making a run alias..dunno why its not working
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: because it has invalid directions
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feiros Tech: =(
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feiros Tech: so whats wrong with it run wdw
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feiros Tech: oh =)
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feiros Tech: why cant I write the two dots char in mushclient..for doors in speedruns
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feiros Tech: nm I figured it out, had to turn command stacking off..whatever that does
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feiros Tech: wait didnt work hehe why cant type ; in aliases? this is starting to get enoying
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: How come when I save my ZMUD layout with docked windows, when I reconnect those docked windows have command lines and status bars on them???? I have removed them and resaved and locked the layout multiple times!!!
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: lock windows
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: are you using vista?
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I am using Vista, yes.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: erm go layout -> lock layout, save layout
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: maybe it doesn't allow you to write in the program files folder?
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heheh, microsoft's security to the rescue
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I have done the lock layout and save layout multiple times....
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: It's a pain to remove the command lines and status bars each time.  Not hard, just a time consuming pain in my rear.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: anyone know what standard c library i need to use the exit command?
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: like exit(0)
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: shrug, stdlib?
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: lol yeah... that worked. stdlib.h
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: im a c++ noob :(
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: thanks!
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: its been years for me, heh :p
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i should really alias inv=ls for bash :P
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: thats serious typo
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brother Maxim Tech: anyone here good at making invitations with Word?
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: or u can look for templates
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brother Maxim Tech: any specific site, or just do a google search?
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: neither
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: microsoft.com
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right within word
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: if you go on word, type onen new
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: it will ask u if u wanna look at templates
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: u can also search through them
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brother Maxim Tech: thanks let me try
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: anytime man
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: I did an IQ scan on Twinlobe members, and they're all scoring really high, like 180.  Except for this one Twinlobe that's only scoring 52.  What's with that?  Is my scanner bugging out?  Plz help.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: it's called a statistical outlier.  just ignore it and it'll go away... isn't that how statistics works?
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: Ah, so the scanner is working then?  Cool, I thought it was an error.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: 52? your not in Twinlobe Starling.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: youre*
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: Way to botch your insults, Menace.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: yeah typo sure ruined it
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: Based on that, I think you should apply.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: yeah, my 180 iq would fit in.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: Don't try to disguise incorrect choice of words as a typo!
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: anyone here rip movies?
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iceman Tech: i do on occasion
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: what do you use? I bought software to do it and the smallest file size i can get is 1g. I don't want to keep downloading them b/c i already own them.. i don't want my 2-year old shredding his dvd's.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: rip, then convert them with a codec
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iceman Tech: i've always used dvd shrink.. never had a prob
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: you'd expect the raws to be huge
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: It's not raw. I use divx encoding..
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i use IMToo DVD Ripper
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: so the stuff that i already have ripped, how do i convert them to make them smaller?
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: also, what is a good version of nero to buy for XP SP3
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zakuro Tech: hi im using the aardwolf mushclient, i wanted to do eg. mt bird (cast 'mind thrust' bird)... but register an alias doesnt work
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zakuro Tech: hello?
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Just use the mudside alias
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zakuro Tech: thanks
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: anyone know anything about installing cygwin on xp?
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: it seems to unpack and install, run the postinstall scripts, then start over, been looping that all morning so far
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: anyone know what the average resolution used these days when viewing websites? 800x600, 1024x768 or bigger etc?
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: probably bigger
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: it depends heavily on the kind of website that you are talking about
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: average is higher, but 1024x768 should be safe
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i use 1600x1200
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zogbad Tech: look at sites like http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_display.asp to get a rough idea of what the public are up to
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: who here religiously uses robocopy?
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akira Tech: just got cmud, nfc what im doing... how do i make it so () isnt recognised as code, so i can use the serials on my aard in alias'
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: leave off the last )
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taemyr Tech: easy answer, drop the final )
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akira Tech: sweet, thanks :)
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akira Tech: ERROR: Syntax error in Alias: recall : unmatched parenthesis
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: lol
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: use an ~(    ~)
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akira Tech: okie
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: it wont work either :P
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akira Tech: that worked
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akira Tech: oh squiggly line, in my eye....
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akira Tech: no family guy fans?.... no? alright, well thanks again :D
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Workaholic Timeghost Tech: anyone driven the Mercedes Sprinter or an equivalent van?
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: YES
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: It's awesome.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: It handles like a sedan.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Workaholic Timeghost Tech: do they fall under the 3.5 ton type-B licence?
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: I drove a 2003 3500HR
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: In the US, you just need a regular class D license.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Workaholic Timeghost Tech: here it has to fall under the regular B - under 3.5 ton allowed load
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: The weight on a 3500 is 9990, so you're just under the 5 ton weight limit for stopping at the scales
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: 3.5ton net or gross?
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: Here it's GVWR, Gross Vehicle Weight Rating.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Workaholic Timeghost Tech: that's the big question - net I believe, since the earlier limit was 7.5 tons and that allowed to drive small trucks
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: Oh, then it's under it.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: You can put about 5000 pounds in the back before it starts touching the overload springs
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: in the 2003 and the 2006 vans, anyway.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: German specs set the computer much better than the US set computers, if I could get a german chip for one, I would.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Workaholic Timeghost Tech: nod. Last Q - apart from parking, if I've never driven something larger than a Jeep - is it easy enough to handle? The mirrors look nice and big, but no rear view?
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: Any sprinter imported has a governer set at 84mph
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: Oh, it handles nicely, it's no harder to park than a jeep.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: No rear view mirror isn't bad at all, the side mirrors are adequate, if you're unsure, you can buy an inexpensive camera system and mount on the back.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: I've done it without the camera, as well as with the camera
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: Camera's nice, but it's not essential
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: But it's got a small screen, about the size of a GPS, that attaches to your window with a large strong suction cup, right where your rear view mirror would go anyway.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Workaholic Timeghost Tech: sounds good. Not planning on buying one, rather deciding on what to hire for a move. The Sprinter class is big enough to fit my whole flat - was unsure whether it handles well in inexperienced hands for that type of vehicle :) Thanks!
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: If you're going to use it for commercial use, I believe you're required to either have the camera, or mount another mirror on the left rear corner of the van, so you can see the space behind you when you're backing up
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: Ahh, sure.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: It's nice and roomy, especially if you get the long WB and high roof.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: It's one of the best handling vehicles designed, but if you've got heavy things, be careful on curves. You won't flip the van, but it's easy to flip your load, and that's a bad mess.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: Because it's so roomy, it's best to strap down.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feiros Tech: gammusibid 717
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feiros Tech: miss
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: i have a question. it's more of a minor annoyance, yet one i'd like to fix
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: how can you make it so that aardmuch automatically sets "chats echo off" when i start a new session or reload aardmush??
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elochai Tech: I'll probably regret this... but I'm trying to use regex to capture only the first word on a line, and somehow it's just not capturing anything :( (I thought ^(\w+).*$ would do it, but my regex-fu is weak)
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pantsu Nimrodel Tech: try ^(\S+)
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pantsu Nimrodel Tech: \S is anything that is NOT a space
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elochai Tech: still doesn't seem to be capturing anything.  I've got it set to Note ("%1") just so I can see if does ever get anything :/
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: my packet frames extended :O
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: what is it again that I have to type to make a song play when a trigger fires?  #play ?
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: for zmud
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: yep
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: no techies on? :)
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cult of Rok Tech: Just us dumbies.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: does anyone here use an external database (like mysql or access) for zmud/cmud and have a few minutes to help me get started?  i read over the forums for the last bit, and i'll just say that i'm probably more confused now than i was before i started reading it :P
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: don't all jump up at once
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars smiles happily.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Global Menace is getting ready to siteban! The agony, the pain!
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: which database do you kinds use? i heard the Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0 used for zmud databases is slow
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: mysql
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: hmm will that take me long to pick up haha i've never used it before
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: if jet is a typical sql database, then it will be easy
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Is there any way to bind the mouse buttons to macros in ZMUD/CMUD?
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: why would you? :p
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Potions? :P Mouse gestures would be neat.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: how do i substitute the {rname} tag with nothing so that i can view room names in their full color while im  mappig
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: how do i substitute the {rname} tag with nothing so that i can view room names in their full color while im  mappig
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: how do i substitute the {rname} tag with nothing so that i can view room names in their full color while im  mappig
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: We get the question.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: zMUD, I assume?
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: yea
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: im trying to use the #sub function
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: but that removes the room name and leave the {rname} there..
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: #sub {~{rname~}} {}
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: #TRIGGER {(~{rname~})(*)} {#TAG name %1;#PSUB {} %x1}
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: Hey, Man
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: If I were you
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: I'd read help rename.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: lol
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: thx btw
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: small edit to that trigger. i think you want #TAG name %2
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Yeah, you're right.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Thanks, Inferno.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: hmm thxc
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Hmm. For those of you with a Twitter account, MacHeist is allowing you to get DEVONthink PRO for free, along with Hyperspaces and Overflow - a value of alomst $80 for... $0. Interesting.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Of course, make that alomst almost.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: anyone on who might be able to trouble shoot a trigger for me?  trying to readin a prompt and it works in al situations but one.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Depends on what client.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: Zmud
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: sorry thought i put that in there
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Show me the trigger and what you're trying to match that it's not.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: AIM: Xioustic, should be online. Just send me the prompt and what you have for the trigger already.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: kk i'll do two messaged my prompt read out first and the trigger read in
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It's better to help over tech so everyone has a chance to learn.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: |prompt|<693245/1755><10><>< Ldr: 3215>< Ldr: 61%><Disciples of Hassan Clan Hall><0> 
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: |prompt|<(%d)/(%d)><(%d)><>< Ldr: (%d)>< Ldr: (%d)%><(*)><(%d)>
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: that look like the matrix screen saver
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: tilda's
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: is that % in the actual prompt throwing it off?
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Use ~ to escape it.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: wait where do i need the tilda?
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Before the percent.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: ~%
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: In Ldr: (%d)~%
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: haha thanks guys
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: works fine now
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Of course it does.
T1/r5/2009-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars has called an Epic Fail on Alt. Helpa Charneus! Scars = 1 Alt. Helpa Charneus = 0
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: can anyone elaborate how ram sticks can get broken from pulling them out -_-
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: if you dont release the latch on em
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: static
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: hmm static is a good call
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: funny thing is those sticks survived my old rigs power supply frying and leaking melted wiring among other stuff all over motherboard
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: haven't they fixed the static problem yet? i mean it's only the 21st century
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL shrugs helplessly.
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: just ground yourself, prob solved
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: i was -_-
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: but anyway was so weird
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: i usually ground myself by holding onto the live wire
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: but made me upgrade i guess since i had new sticks gathering dust anyway
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: just grab the case 
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: unless its a crappy plastic one lol
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: holding the case is onlu useful if you've plugged the thing into the mains
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: nods
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: yeah
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: anyway it was a bizzare thing
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: hmm. #switch isnt catching all the variable references in cmud.. seems too slow in capturing like 30+ at a time?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: anyone here familiar with php
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what's this php?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: only vaguely
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: sounds like a disease
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: pretty hopeless programming
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i have a sort set up to alphabetize some things and spit it out. I need one of the variables printed in uppercase, and i don't know how to force it.
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: toupper(string[0])     ?   at a guess...  php is very C like
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: there are plenty of string functions and one of them returns strings in uppercase
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: the web based docs are pretty good
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: there are some good php guides nogs
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: you guys are better at explaining things than a website. much better knowledge base here. :D
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: the php manual is very well laid out and written and has plenty of examples
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zogbad Tech: strtoupper()
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: 5 secs on google  string strtoupper  ( string $string  )     Returns string with all alphabetic characters converted to uppercase. 
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: ok.. strtoupper isn't working....
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: nvm.. i think i found it.. gimme a sec
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: ok yeah.. for some reason it doesn't want to display anything at all when i change it to strtoupper
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: are you referencing your variables correctly and all that?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: did you read http://au2.php.net/strtoupper
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: {strtoupper{$lastLetter}
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: {strtoupper($lastLetter)}
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: ;?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: nevermind. i gotta go do the wife's bidding for a minute..
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: whooopisssh
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: lol
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: most functions return a value, you need to DO something with that value
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: cough     $lastLetter = strtoupper($lastLetter)
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: that's what i got, some reason it's tarding out with me
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: did you try the example ?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: pretty sure it's $lastLetter = strtoupper($lastLetter);
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: $lastletter = strtoupper($lastletter)
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: that's right from the code
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: wats the strin in $lastletter before the attempted conversion
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: it depends on what letter it's on
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: starts out blank, does the sort, then changes it to upper
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: have you tried doing debug echo's ?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: if i take out the strtoupper everything loads just fine
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: as soon as i add in that one line, it craps out
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: use strtoupper on a constant string
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: crapping out probably means you've missed semi-colons, or forgot to close brackets, paranthesis, quotes etc
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: and you will NEVER know which line because the compiler is a douchebag BWAHAHAH
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: hmm weird, when i make a mistake in php and have error logging on it shows me what line the problem is on
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: a decent code highlighting editor will catch most problems before ever getting to the servr
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Map Freak Ithilion noddles in total agreement at Yhogurk.
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: for one, I do believe you're missing a ; on the $lastletter=$upper part :p
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: paste your code block somewhere so we can see it and give us a link
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: that's the first rule of php I remember, : every line pretty much :P
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: ; even*
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: $lastLetter = strtoupper($lastLetter)
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: add on ; at the end?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: it doesn't post the semicolon b/c i'm using zmud
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: preface it with a tilde :P
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: ~~
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: ~;
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: $lastLetter = strtoupper($lastLetter);
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i need more info.... the preceeding code
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: we all do :P
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Map Freak Ithilion chuckles politely.
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: aight... 
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: how would i do that...
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: if you comment out that line (use //) does it still crap out?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: http://www.hellboundreviews.com:81/music/1g/music.php
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: if you look at that right now, it's loading fine
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i take that back.. hang on
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: paste you code here and post the link in chat     http://www.textsnip.com/
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: you're probably violating your isp's tos by hosting a server :)
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: textsnip is unavailable
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i've never heard of hoisting a server being against isp's t/a/c
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: hosting pirated or illegal content, yes
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: most residential connections are restricted
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: most are non-static ip's
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: and apparently staple's isp has blocked port 80 so they probably don't expect you to be hosting any webserver
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: try this: http://www.hellboundreviews.com:80/music.txt
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kitaro hug dyndns
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: technically if you run limewire, or torrent, or any of the tv stations catch-up software, they're technically servers
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: don't tell me, tell your isp :)
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: page isnt loading
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: try this: http://www.hellboundreviews.com:81/music.txt
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: email me
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: try port 81
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: nm, 81 works
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: sorry, port shoulda been 81
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: www.hellboundreviews.com seems to have the digg effect
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: digg effect?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: nm port 81 missing
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ologn Tech: When a webserver is taken down due to a massive inflow of sudden traffic when frontpaged on the site www.digg.com
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: if anyone else cant get to 81. I'll textsnip :P
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: first slashdotted, now digged?!
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: you mean slashdotted?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ologn Tech: I would say slashdotted, but he did not :p
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ologn Tech: if it was a silly picture of a cat, maybe digg effect would be more appropriate
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: heh :P
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i'm just trying to figure out where i can add that line of code at so it doesn't screw up. the best place i've had it so far it uppercases everything, but then changes the format
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ologn Tech: Not that I have anything against digg, I used both sites frequently :)
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: does $lastLetter = '#'
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: no
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: does $lastLetter = '#';  in php typecast to char ?   maybe $lastLetter = "#";  would be better  ?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ologn Tech: Why don't you try and find out :)
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i may just saw screw it and change it all back to images.. at least that way i didn't have this problem
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ologn Tech: Oftentimes when you're unsure about the behaviour of things, the best method is to make a small script/program to test what you end up with
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: problem is i didn't write this, a friend of mine did.. so i'm just trying to hack it together...
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ologn Tech: As you can do this very quickly, and it is almost faster than looking it up online.
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ologn Tech: Ah
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: and he's not around anymore
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ologn Tech: almost always&
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: from the strtoupper() example:    $str = "Mary Had A Little Lamb and She LOVED It So"; $str = strtoupper($str)
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i had that. 
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i'm looking at the same page
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: did you use double quotes ?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: double quotes?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: "    versus     '
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: inputting the info into the string or recalling it?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: quote your string literals with   "
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: im just gonna say screw it and make them all images.
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: that way i don't have to edit anything else
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: where is your strtoupper()? also you should replace chr(10) with "\n"
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i took strtoupper out so i can get it to work
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: he's using strtolower
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: when i change them all over to strtoupper it quits working
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: yeah that whole chr(10) thing is evil
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: yeah but it works. lol
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: it's bad coding... it might work now but it's noobsauce
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: another suggestion, use pathinfo() to get file extension and replace your if construct with a switch
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: when you "change them all over to strtoupper and it quits working", you doing search+replace or doing it manually? obviously doing search+replace would help reduce chances of silly errors
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: thats what i did 
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: how do i stop zmud mapper from creating the same room multiple times when i pass through a room twice or more?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: that usually happens if the mapper is outta sync
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: so how do i get in back in sync?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: proper config and the binoculars
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: seems like the mapper fails to keep up if i'm moving fast
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: yeah there's some(alot) threading issues in z/cmud
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: when you're mapping, dedicate yourself to mapping, don't go whizzing around killing stuff
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: cmud is still being fixed.. so I wouldnt really call "alot" later on
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: its funny.. when i use the binoculars the mapper detcts the room i'm in, i move on to the next room, and the mapper doesnt follow sometimes
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: its been being fixed for years just like zmud was theres no end
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: zmud, however, is pretty much abandoned, as far as imovements go, it wont get anymore.
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: that's also partially possibly due to links being broken as well
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Map Freak Ithilion shrugs helplessly.
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: oh i see.. so cmud is the more up-to date version?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: ah well i was just mapping ard the recall area and zmud mapper failed to even keep up
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: its best if you script the mapper yourself with #tags, can get it to work really nice
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: tts what i'm doing..
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: and it seems to be able to detect everything flawlessly
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cmud is more up to date, but also more buggy, with less expertise in the bugs...
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: just tt it can't piece together the info gathered apparently
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: the whole world still goes around and overall quality goes down when you want quality, you pay more.. that's how it seems like nowadays
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: zmud bugs all have known workarounds and are less of an issue
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: except with MS you pay more for less quality
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: that's true, yho :P
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: and yet I don't know why I crave MS Office for some reason.. ><
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: you dont need to make a better product when there are no significant competitors
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: I figure it's the eye candy, tbh. :P
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: you're addicted to the paper clip
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I loved the commercial M$ did with gilbert godfrey for OfficeXP when they depracated clippy
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (as I check tech -h ;-)
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: clippy was the pinnacle of MS's innovation
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: anyone know where i could get a nice tracker for quest/exp for Zmud?  What i'm looking for is the ones that will report every hour your exp gained ove rthat hour, time in combat, etc.  same for every day/every double.  Also for qp just a qp over the time of having the script track,qp/quest type stuff.
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: silly hdd manufacturers
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: how do you get an rma for a product if their online rma system doesn't believe it exists
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: Call customer support?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: mm, this just got me thinking.. best form of mobile backup(device) would be?..
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: I was just thinking usb drives, but they have limited usages before they tend to get disk errors..
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: and optical drives can get bad burns..
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: are you asking a question or are you making a statement?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: for normal usage flash drives would last you years
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: i use my flash drive quite a bit and still have ones from like 4 years ago.
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: i have a 48MB CF which has been in use for around 10 years
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: mk. thanks.
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: as long as you dont delete the whole backup and redo it repeatedly
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: you should be fine
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: I was just asking mainly because I have a 2gb flashdrive that's a lil bit more than halfway full, just wanna see if i needed another.. most likely do anyway, at this price I can get double or triple the memory at the same price I got it at a few years ago.
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: my 16GB one was like 40 bucks
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: 2GB flash are worth a couple of peanuts these days :)
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Map Freak Ithilion noddles in total agreement at Yhogurk.
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: they're fun to put linux on for live boots and stuff like that
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: yeah what I was thinking myself
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: some form of OS disk + etc
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: kinda sucks, though, you know? I have a metric ton of CD-R's and I really dont need that many now that I think on it, because I tend to want rewritables mostly
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: RW seems to have better data integrity in my experience
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: anyways, I guess I'll go find another flash drive to begin with. :)
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: and I think I'm going to be using 16gigs at the minimum for a base
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: lawl, nice to know best buy and their type sell 16gigs for $80 :P overpriced
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the trouble with flashdrives is that the lack of a standard access protocol - each manufacturer requires users to load specific software to access each of their umpteen versions of flashdrive
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Map Freak Ithilion nods.
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: that sucks
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i have never seen a flashdrive that required anything but the generic "usb mass stoage device driver"
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Map Freak Ithilion shrugs helplessly.
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: so far my total flash drives owned count up to a measly one. :P
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: xyliz is thinking of windows and its umpteen flash drive drivers
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the flashdrives that are on sale
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: I'm really pondering whether I really need u3 nowadays
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: u3 is a waste of time, it's for the scrubs
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: when the munufacturers dump their suspiciously cheap flashdrives at Business Depot 
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Map Freak Ithilion chuckles at Kitaro's joke.
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: I agree for the most part, I'm leaning towards a reformat, anyway when I get the new flash
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what sucks is that neither Dos nor Win98se is unable to use modern flashdrives 
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: ya. :/
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: but then again, there should be somewhere to start stopping support entirely for a particular product/device, IMHO.
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: (errata) what sucks is that neither Dos nor Win98se is able to use modern flashdrives 
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: but i own thousands of dollars of programming and other software that runs in Dos Win3.1 Win98se -- if i go XP or Vista, i am looking at freeware versions which may be sucky  
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not true
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: flash drives work with dos quite happily provided your bios supports usb legacy options
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: win98se supports flash drives, provided the manufacturer has produced drivers
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: linux support any device as long as the manufacturer has produced drivers?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's not really relevant, yhogurk
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: i purchased 2 cheapo flashdrives, neither works with Win98se -- and the downloaded software refuses to work   (but they were cheap to buy)
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: downloaded software should work, sure you got the right download?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: yeah, the verbatim software -- was piece of crap -- maybe the old Roxio CD software was blocking the software from working -- Roxio acts slightly funny these days
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nogs, but like i said, win98se, it's not a case of windows not supporting flash drives, it's just a driver issue
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: tnuts you're always on about linux not supporting (as many) devices as windows, and you disagree when i point out that it's not linux not support said devices but the manufacturers not putting out drivers. now you're saying win98se supports whatever as long as manufacturer has a driver. do you see a discrepancy?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no, yhogurk, win98se is an ancient os, so you don't expect new stuff to work natively with it
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Win98se is great for mudding
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: natively is this case only means driver bundled, whatever the case a driver is needed whether it's bundled with windows/linux, or supplied separately by manufacturer
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: a driver is a driver, any halfway decent os will support any device given the driver
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yep, and it does, so what's the problem
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: to run the latest Zmud, i require Ms drivers to upgrade Win98se which i am unable to download even though i paid for two copies of Win98se (one copy that i use is suspect, but both are on the same computer, the legal copy is unused on the D drive) -- i intensely dislike microsoft
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: eh?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what does it claim you need?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: i an using the standalone Win98se which came with the new refurbished computer, the box retail upgrade version is on a harddrive (with all the data files) eretrieved from a dead computer and installed as a second drive on the refurbished computer
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the standalone Win98se is flagged as unknown OS by the genuinecheck
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Map Freak Ithilion chuckles politely.
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: microsoft's genuine check?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: yep, GenuineCheck.exe downloaded from microsoft
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: how long has 98 been dead now?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: but what needs to be updated in the first place?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: why don't you install xp?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: from zmud page you need updated mdac at least
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you can download that without genuinecheck
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: i did a full windows update on a win98se install around august last year and never had to use the crappy wga thing
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: so i want to upgrade Win98se so i may fully run Zmud v7.x , but am unable to download the software from Microsoft because only those with a GenuineCheck recognised and approved system may download those drivers
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: http://www.macropool.com/en/download/mdac.html
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what is at that url 
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: who are macropool?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: place where you can download the mdac update
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ologn Tech: In mushclient, I'm having a problem with my triggers. The ones I have I can't edit or remove, and I can't make new ones.
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: why not download from ms site?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: becaue he has an unsupported os
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: i am pretty sure i downloaded my mdac update from konq running on linux
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ologn, are you using Vista?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ologn Tech: Yes
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: yep i can reconfirm MS sucks, they've wga'ed that download now
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ologn Tech: I can't even get into my trigger config anymore, it freezes now
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: thats why i gave an alternate url that has the old updates on it
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: i love windows :P
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you have 3 options...(1) turn off UAC, (2) run MUSH as administrator, or (3) reinstall with an install path that is NOT program files
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: m$ stopped support for win98se yonks ago
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they didn't make a secret of it
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Map Freak Ithilion nods at you in agreement. 
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ologn Tech: noted *grumbles at MS*
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: stopping support doesn't have to mean stopping people from using what they paid for
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they're not
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: zmud are entitled to host the download
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you sure about that?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: plenty of other sites offering the download, so yes
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: doesnt mean it's legal :P
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: people would trust it more if the download comes direct from ms (snicker)
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're likely paying licensing fees to M$ to allow them to embed it
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: pretty sure people paid to use whats on the install cd, updates from MS are them being kind... kindness only goes so far
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which is something I can't see zugg being able to afford
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yep, kitaro
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: but given that i've already given out a url for it, all further discussion of it is pointless
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: have you looked into AutoPatcher ?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: yes and their eula means they get away with murder and not be held responsible
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: think m$ forced autopatcher to be removed, litaro
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: no one makes you agree to the EULA, or makes you just skip it and press ok   ;-)
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: nah autopatcher is back up
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: how did they get over the legal wranglings with m$?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: by using the software you're deemed to have agreed to the eula
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: no idea, i stumbled across them again recently, i was sad when they went down too
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: so by using ms software you have waived all rights
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: agree or use macos or linux or beos or a abacus
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: it's funny how so many people say xp is finally useable after umpteen billion updates - updates which are released from the goodness of MS's corporate heart. now if MS suddenly pulls all those updates from their website a lot of people would be pretty upset when they have to do their weekly reinstall
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's what service packs are for
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: yes well they have to balance customer expections and satisfaction into their business plan
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: and are these SPs free or are they also subject to MS's kindness?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you download them free, provided you have a legitimate copy
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: no one gives a flying frisbee about win98 anymore
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: so if they pulled those SPs as well ?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I like win98 on a vm to play old games
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they haven't pulled them yet
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nor will they until after the extended support phase ends
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: except cheapskates that wont give money up, and if they aint paying MS dont care
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: so unless you have made backup copies, xp will be unuseable when extended support ends?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: personally, I've never reinstalled xp or had any stability issues with it that were not hardware related
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: most sensible people would have already slitstreamed it into their os cd
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: they give people 10 years notice on end of life for xp... so no one can be too unhappy, since you knew it was coming and any sane person knows it's unreasonable to support old products indefinitely
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: if everybody was as smart as you tnuts, you would be out of a job :)
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: how many people on here are using 11yr old copies of linux?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nobody, renders your whole arguments pretty effing stupid
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: the difference is that they could if they wanted to
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nothing stopping you installing win98se now
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: what does it cost for MS to keep hosting those files? some insignificant amount
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: yes but they dont want to, because it would drop customer satisfaction
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they don't want to
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why should they have to?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: i'd be more inclined to purchase XP if microsoft supported and fixed old systems and supported legacy software -- but if microsoft shabbily supports current software, there is going to be a reluctance to upgrade into a new nightmarer
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: eh? they support current software fine
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: i like old stuff -- there is a lot of nostalgia value to old stuff 
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miquiz Tetzahuitl Tech: Atari FTW
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: hey i cried the day my NES melted (and i literally mean melted)
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: i need to replace that sometime so i can play me some oldschool Final Fantasy/Dragon quest hah
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miquiz Tetzahuitl Tech: just go get an emulator
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: it's more fun playing with the actual controllers and cartridge though
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: u might call it the "nostalgia" factor
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miquiz Tetzahuitl Tech: nod, you can buy similar ones that plug into your comp
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: still not the same.
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lother Tech: Speeding up the frame rate for those old school rpgs is the best thou.
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: aluminium and glass enclosure? can you say "easily breakable"?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: does anyone know of any sites that help with setting up sound devices to do rather complicated things, such as properly recording ventrilo while also recording a video game without getting weird feedback loops, etc.?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: does anyone know of any sites that help with setting up sound devices to do rather complicated things, such as properly recording ventrilo while also recording a video game without getting weird feedback loops, etc.?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: sorry
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Wild Heafmo Tech: i think you're better off looking around some gaming communities for montage editors and see if you can get any advice from them
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: alrighty, thanks!
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: is it possaible to have a "spider/robot what have you" go and check a website to make sure that the site is linking to one specific place or would it pull all data?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Yeeaaahhh new laptop... Now to move CMUD settings all over. Ugh.
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: how do i make in so that in the chat window the text fits to the size of the window instead of dissapears of the window (mushclient)
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: does firefox support css?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: anyone good with css?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hail! Ceasar Tech: I'm bad with CSS.
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hail! Ceasar Tech: But I've used it.
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: lol. i'm just trying to get something to work with firefox. i found the rest of my erros, just one small line isn't working..
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: is there a way to disable the control+b function in zmud?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: marco it to something else
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: that the only way ?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: maybe you can disable it from global settings. dunno
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: using a blank macro should work too
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: i tried making a macro, but i still get the button
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witblitz Tech: do any of u know if u get a ckient to play aard for the samsung omnia smartphone?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: you want a telnet client for the omnia ?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witblitz Tech: yes if i can play aard on it lol 
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: search google for such a thing
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: have you tried google "omnia telnet"
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=putty+samsung+omnia+smartphone
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witblitz Tech: trying now .. thought if anybody would now the people on aard would lol
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir slaps Witblitz.
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's not that funny
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: it is sad, playing mud on a phone
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: why is it sad ?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witblitz Tech: why??? i like aard and
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i use mine to read notes sometimes
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witblitz Tech: it is a hassle to take my laptop everywhere
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: it's sad because you have to be desperate to play on a tiny screen and a crappy keyboard
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: mudding on phone... a new way to die while driving
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: no obviously you dont do it in corporate meetings or while driving :P you do it when youre bored and nothing else to do :D
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witblitz Tech: lol the name of the client is putty?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: putty is a well known and respected telnet client
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: there are java based telnet clients if you're that desperate :)
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: that's how I play from my blackberry, putty into a shell account then use tintin++ there.
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: techies gon wild
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: actually I wouldn't say "play", but check on the mud from time to time.
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witblitz Tech: well i am no techie lol
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i propose nuking people who use lol in every sentence. i already turned off gossip, but i'm not going to give up tech
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: sub it, its a placebo word anyway :p
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: so you're a wannabe techie then? lol
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: well you could gag 'lol', or just be more tolerant :)
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: lol, Duckbat, you're right
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: nah he's just leech off techies to get stuff done
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: subbing is not an option. it's ok when it's used if you actually laugh out loud
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: and if someone talked about getting a lollipop you would see it as dickhead-warningpop
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: just turn tech off, it's tigernuts's private channel anyway
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: tech channel = free tech support,  lol
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: how do you know he didn't lol, lol
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: no make regex sub :D not just plain
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and miss the flamewars?!
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: so it doesnt sub in the middle of words
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: nerd
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: idiots are creative, can't think of a regex that would solve it
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: chan humor is easy, i have it gagged already
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ex-humor actually
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witblitz Tech: wil mushclient work on windows moblie? i dont find putty for a windows moblie phone
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=putty+pocketpc
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: anyone know any plugins for firefox that allows for playing of multimedia within the browser?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skinner Tech: hi
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skinner Tech: anyone happens to know under what link i'd find macromedia flash 8 trial ? :)
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: isnt it under Adobe now?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: www.adobe.com...macromedia doesn't exist
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skinner Tech: ahh
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skinner Tech: wonder if they have free trial then...
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: adobe bought macromedia out :p
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: had you just gone to www.macromedia.com, it redirects to adobe.com anyway ;-)
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skinner Tech: yeah well anyway
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skinner Tech: question still remains
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skinner Tech: i.e. does adobe have free trial of flash player then?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Why would you want a free trial?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: look around
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skinner Tech: because for my purposes 30 days trial is enough. just finding it for a friend
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: on the main page is a drop-down called "downloads"...that's where I'd check...under that drop-down is "trial downloads"...
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Isn't the flash plugin already free to download? I'd think the standalone player should be free as well.
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skinner Tech: alternatively i could try and find cracked version from somewhere.... :)
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: at least PRETEND to have glanced before asking
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skinner Tech: yeah well i checked that already. either i'm blind or i just dont see it 8=
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you go to "trial downloads", there's one called "adobe flash CS4 professional"...you didn't think that was the one that you wanted?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skinner Tech: ahh i noticed it now
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skinner Tech: i can see again!
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skinner Tech: +h
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skinner Tech: oops
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silverlyn Tech: how do you test your triggers?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: try echo
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: use echo
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: use #show
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silverlyn Tech: I'm using mush client
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silverlyn Tech: do I just type echo by itself?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: echo this is my test trigger
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silverlyn Tech: i type that?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: echo sample text
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: You type echo followed by what will set your trigger off
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seregil Tech: can anyone tell me whats wrong with my modem?  It's scratching like it's connecting but I'm still connected?  
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: got ur speaker on
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seregil Tech: I guess so...but it's never did this before.  I mean its just like its connecting but it's already connected and actually going faster than usual
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: it may be about to die ?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seregil Tech: probably...I'll disconnect and that will be the last you hear from me until I get another.  ah well...here goes it's driving me crazy!
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: you check the settings? i believe there's an option for the speaker to be on after connect
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: the feds are tapping your line
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: it could be auto-retrain
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seregil Tech: I disconnected...then got attacked and got killed.  Its just been one of those days
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seregil Tech: but the noise is gone
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: if it made the noise the got faster it was probably retraining to get a better connection, some modems do that
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seregil Tech: that would be nice...it's actually acting better even after I disconnected and reconnected.
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: I have a 17" widescreen laptop and the need to carry it with me to school. I don't want to carry it in a briefcase/purse/bag looking thing because those are often light in weight and and are targets for thievery. Anyone know of any backpacks that would fit such a laptop?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: northface might have one on their website
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: also try Targus website
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Thanks, I'll look into it. :)
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: i love my laptop backpack from Targus but it wouldn't fit 17" widescreen
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: but chances are they have a version for that.
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: I'm just loving this new Vista installation... UAC is the bomb! </sarcasm>
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kandeljack Tech: Win3.0 > Vista
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: anyone using a DTV converter box having an issue with it losing channels at random intervals?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: buy a new tv already
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: u had 2 years notice
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: it's for my mom ya pleeb. she isn't too keen on a new tv
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: i'm trying to figure out why the box keeps losing channels 
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: i'm wondering if her cheesy rabbit ears antenna has anything to do with it or if it's just bad signal reception period
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Go to antennaweb.org and look up the best place/direction to position your antenna.
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik licks his lips and smiles.
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Cheesy rabbit!
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: i would just get her a new digital set, but she can barely handle the remote on the old tv. sh had a oldstyle turn-knob tv up until 10 years ago :P
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: the woman taught me how to park a car blindfolded, but can't operate a tv that great
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: ok...antenna web isn't helping that much, or the oxy is messing with my head 
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Did you put in the address?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Are you losing channels as in they don't stay programmed on the box, or are you losing connection to them?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: well, one channel disappears 70% of the time, another one keeps jumping between 4.x and 31.x, and a third just fuzzes out at random intervals i can't explain
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: That didn't answer my question. Are you losing signal strength with it, or are they just disappearing, period?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Like one day, you flip through channels, and you see 4, 5, 7, 10, 11. The next day, you see 4, 7, 11.
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: one day i'll see 4, 5, 11, 17, 22, 28, 40, 50, 62 ... the next day i'll see 5, 11, 17, 22, 28, 31, 40, 50, 58
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Replace the box?
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: this is the second box i got. i bought one from best buy and one from walmart just to make sure :P
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: No clue then.
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: i think 4 & 31 is the PBS station and i'm catching both signals...
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I'll sell my box for a few tps to cover the shipping
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: they're runnin 5 digital and 2 analog signals all at once
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: but the other one i got no clue why it blinks out...i mean the transmitting tower is less than 30 miles away :P
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: bah...installing an outdoor antenna is out of the question since i still can't walk that good. i guess i need to find a really good indoor multidirectional antenna and hope for the best
T1/r5/2009-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: well thanks guys. time to raid best buy for an antenna :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: please help something went wrong with my filter keys and now I cant get aardwolf to stop highlighting text
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: wait I think im good now
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the ADA filter keys?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: I dont know... it said I held down the shift key for 8 seconds
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, go to control panels, to Accessibility Options
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: I tried to cancel out but something changed, but I think it changed back
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: I think im good now
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there you can tell it to ignore when you do that altogether
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for stickykeys, filterkeys, and togglekeys, click settings and UNcheck the "use shortcut"
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: thanks! im gonna disable all that crap right now
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: bad superman
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: mt
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: does anyone here use Davos' cMUD spellup script?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: has anyone using Fiendish's automatic web voting had it throw error messages lately ?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: anyone know if there's a way to select a folder of images and resize them all at the same time without opening each individually
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: you can write a program to do it, or download ones that do it
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: do you know of one that works for that? i have like 400 images i have to resize..
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: how what works?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Indrid Tech: google it
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: suually you just select a folder and and put in the size you want them to be?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Indrid Tech: bulk image resize
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetcuti Tech: microsoft has a neat .jpg resizer
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Workaholic Timeghost Tech: has anyone had a case where Stinger from McAffee would fail to detect a virus?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Workaholic Timeghost Tech: no one used Stinger?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Astraeus Tech: I have a problem...
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: word?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Astraeus Tech: My macros arn't showing up when I login. I have to rewrite/reload them every time. How do I keep them on all the time?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: bribery
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: ;)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: MUSH or zMUD
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Astraeus Tech: MUSH
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: alas, i canna help then.  sry
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Astraeus Tech: where do I get zMUD?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: zuggsoft.com
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: google zmud download page
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: PaperTiger Panzer looks around and whistles innocently.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuxe Tech: Just to let you guys know, the Mudlet beta came out today. (Mudlet.com).  It's pretty buggy right now, but it look's like it'll be good once all those things are worked out of it.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Astraeus Tech: then what do I do after download?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Astraeus Tech: where can I get a license for zMUD? I checked serials.ws but they only had an expired one
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you buy one
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: buy it for 10 bucks
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: or however much it is
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Torunkes gasps in astonishment.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: try ordering one from the zuggsoft website
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: there's also a free zmud too on the zuggsoft...
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetcuti Tech: think thats the only way...or DL mush
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: or u can get one of the old ones
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: dont use the old ones
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: i dont like mush
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: the older zmud is pretty functional, and stable up to xp
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: zmud is the shiznit
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Astraeus Tech: gah! I just want my Macros to stop dissappearing every time I log in! I don't want to pay for that!
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taemyr Tech: use MUSHclient
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Astraeus Tech: I am! but they are still dissapearing and I got to reload them everytime I login
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: Atraeus, what version zMud are you using
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Astraeus Tech: I am using MUSHclient
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: yeah, capitalism can be such a pain.  You end up having to pay for things you want.  Who ever dreamt of such a crazy system
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zetcuti snickers.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: unless you are a banker of course
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: mush is kinda lacking isnt it?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Astraeus Tech: yeah
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: i think last time i used mush i ended up just stopping play for like 4 yrs
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taemyr Tech: the one reason to consider buying Zmud is the mapper.  But it's not worth it.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: so beware
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: yes its worth it :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: yea zmud is way worth it
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: backup your macros so if they disappear, you restore from a backup
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: mush is quite nice, the interface is a bit geeky and slow
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: the current version of zmud is great, I havent found anything better yet
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: and i been playing since 97
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Astraeus Tech: yes thats what I've been doing, I don't want to reload them every time I login, I just want to have them there for me whenever
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: but it works, is customisable and does the job well
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: zmud v7.21 ?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: ya
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: Astraeus i bet you use vista
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Astraeus Tech: no...
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Swalec thinks everything has to be up from tintin which is what he used to use
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: never heard of tintin
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Crieus gasps in astonishment.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Indrid Tech: tintin is consol based if im not mistaken
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: then you need to configure mush properly, dont blame the software for operator error
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: ah, well, maybe you're not old enough -- tintin was suberp
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: tintin is up to version 1.99
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Astraeus Tech: how do I do that?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: tintin was the original.  the holy mother.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: but I used to use a windows version of it, and the macro language was horrible
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: where is mota? why do i not worship mota?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Indrid Tech: I use alot of consol based apps but i prefer a GUI with my client. 
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taemyr Tech: because you are an outcast.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: OH!
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: a macro language designed by geeks travelling to hell ?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I still use tintin on occasions, because it can run under screen, but that's about it
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: so if i remove it i will worship the sweet mota again?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: the macro language was just that -- macros. You could do anything you want, but it was hard work
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taemyr Tech: actually, it seems mota is not worshiped in V3.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: ever tried aard on telnet?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Indrid Tech: Iv been using Kildclient. I have to say i like it. I use 2 use JMC back in the day whn i ran windows. 
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: ah... telnet
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: lol.... good ol telnet!
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I wrote a big shortest path speedwalker, had to do it in perl, generating out the tintin code
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: mota died a sad and lonely death late in v2
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: thank you, microsoft, for breaking ECHO of all things.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: I think that is BS.... I been worshipping Mota for a long time.... im not giving up on him
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: I think that is BS.... I been worshipping Mota for a long time.... im not giving up on him
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: oops sry
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Swalec started mudding with telnet
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: me too
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Indrid Tech: ddnt we all?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: ms telnet echo works fine
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: I started with tin cans and string
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taemyr Tech: We'l just have to start another clan.  To resurect old deities.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: latency was a bitch
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snagandorf Tech: ever tried "worship mota" cant be done
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I used telnet inside emacs to give me proper cut and paste
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: we need to write a complaint
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: Dog is  goD spelt backwards
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: the world is a better place now
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: nah
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snagandorf Tech: cant even worship ayla(the new mota)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: my spouse is still alive
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Felt falls on his knees and worships Mota.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: lies
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: Mota is  atoM spelt backwards
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: it's a different error message
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: lol
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: wow this is a very technical discussion
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: worship ayla gets 'no ayla' .. worship mota gets 'i don't understand you'
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: NOROM is MORON spelled backwards.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: haha
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: Felt is tleF spelt backwards.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zela feels the Love
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: That ain't love.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: If you see Dashiell feels the Love too. It feels kinda like popcorn.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebenezer Gregor grabs some CopPorn and sits back to watch the show.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Felt pinches A white dove's buns.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lother Tech: CopPorn?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: Andor: That is a deep subject.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: mis
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: norPpoC  (what was hard about that one?)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Indrid Tech: whts mushclient written in?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: C++
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: ima write my own client
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Assembly.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: And steal zmuds code
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: and call it Dmud
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Astraeus Tech: so no one knows how I would keep my macros on?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: better yet, Freemud
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: write it in the D language
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: And be sued for stealing zMUD's code.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Indrid Tech: hmm. anyone know a good alt 2 jmc tht runs on linux native?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: gonna be hard to figure out what one of your competitors you stole from
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: as long as I make minor changes SOMEWHERE, it isnt stealing
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: and if im not selling it, its not a crime
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: eh... this aint like making an arrangement on somebody's music, or a parady of a play
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: both are untrue
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods at Kitaro.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: i can decompile a program and change it and use it and its not illegal
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: umm... i'm pretty sure that's called 'reverse engineering'
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: If you see Dashiell peers intently at Damacius.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: and it's totally illegal
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: true, but you said selling not distributing
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: That's reverse engineering which is illegal.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: you certainly don't strike me as being bright enough to threaten anybody's code security
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: even open source may well be safe..
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taemyr Tech: It's a bit tricky, you violate the license agreement.  So it's a breach of contract.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus is agreeing with that Iron Duck Chuft person again...
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: oh wait, you guys in the us have the nazi millenium act... that makes reverse engineering illeagal
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: that's called intellectual copyright, it's hardly a new idea
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: reverse engineering is trying to make a copy WITHOUT stealing the code, and yes, it is legal
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: umm no
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: making a program to do what another program does
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: ah, I shall allow you to instruct me, since your typing and grammar are so superior, surely all your other pearls of wisdom shall be also
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_engineering
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: reverse engineering is studying how something works in order to replicate that functionality
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taemyr Tech: When you use a program it's usually in the EULA that you agree not to attempt reverse engineering.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: ahh, wikipedia....the source of all things true and correct in the universe.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: if they wanted it to be reverse engineered, they'd release it as open source..that is kind of the point
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Omg! It's in Wikipedia! It MUST be true! :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taemyr Tech: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IANAL
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: u ever taken a class in computer sciences?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: a degree
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: Tyebald when you can tell us why wikipedia is bad AND why it is good, mindless parrotting your teachers saying wikipedia is bad holds no water
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: since we're throwing out websites
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: not u duck
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Wemyss
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: does Mushclient provide button arrays like that possible in zmud  say a 7 columns by 50 rows of buttons running down the LHS of the screen (30%)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: But then again, Damacius, read this closely: "...[W]here disassembly is the only way to gain access to the ideas and functional elements embodied in a copyrighted computer program and where there is a legitimate reason for seeking such access, disassembly is a fair use of the copyrighted work, as a matter of law." -- You do not have a legitimate reason. And that's directly from your link.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Disproved by your own proof. Gotta love the irony.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: what is te relevence of West_Wemyss
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: actually, my point is that throwing out a web url hardly constitutes the equivalent of critical thought.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: Who said it had to be relevant to anything?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: Dashiell wins   ;-)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: bah, It's not like zmud would be terribly difficult to write....
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Map Freak Ithilion laughs out loud.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: if you want to start from scratch, go for it
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Really?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Map Freak Ithilion goes, "SUUUUUUUURE...."
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taemyr Tech: It's of course legal to start from scratch.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You realize that zMUD has over 1.5 million lines of code?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: yeah, is then why Cmud is up and running perfectly already
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: you can take code from old zmud to start
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: since its free
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: CMUD is running just fine, for the most part. At least, the new beta versions are. CMUD was from scratch, though.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: nono, start from scratch. :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: not to mention if you are making a zmud clone, there is precedence for sueing over "look and feel"
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: is Cmud any good?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Why? So you can 'steal the code' and claim it as your own?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jiraiya Tech: i like it :) nifty little features... like clickable hyperlinks
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: never said I'd claim it....
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Clickable links were possible in zMUD, too.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: just turn it into open source software
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It came as a default package in CMUD, though.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: I think Cmud was mainly written to support portable devices?  It's developed by zuggsoft too.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: so u can use Cmud on an Iphone then?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: No...
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: seriously, i don't know
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i heard cmud was a complete rewrite of zmud because zmud is crap
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: thatwould be sweet
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: zmud isnt crap
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Local variables in CMUD is a complete godsend for scripting, especially with database queries. Other than that, I'd prefer zMUD.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: honestly i love zmud
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: it just is outdated and etc
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: CMUD was designed to work on Vista. With the new operating systems, zMUD wasn't supported on them. They do work, but still not supported.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: and have no problem paying for it
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: he made the mistake of making zmud free for life so he head to rename :p
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: CMUD is going to be slightly portable in the future, but that's a bit aways, anyway.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: database queries are simple in zmud, via ado sql
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: free updates i mean
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: zugg's database is , howver, crap
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: zmud is bugy as all hell, and needed the rewrite, zugg started that project over 10 years ago...
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: CMUD also uses sql for most everything now, instead of ADO. ;)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: zmud buggy?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: yes, it's buggy. :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: zMUD was buggy, yes. Accepted things it shouldn't have.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: does cmud work on Win XP yet and Win 98se 
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: ive never had a problem with zmud at all
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: if you ever do any coding you would know it's always better when you redo it a few months or years later.... because you know more
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Uh, CMUD was always working on XP and later.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Don't think it'll work in 98.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: and cuz you got fresh eyes
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: was zmud buggy because of the Delphi code-engine
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It was buggy for other reasons, too.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kitaro snickers softly.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: zmud wsa written when zugg knew a lot less, then he spent 10 years plus patching it up
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: that and back when he started there was a lot less you could do
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: the time for a full rewrite had come
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: By the way, Damacius, you do realize Zugg plays Aardwolf, right?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: there is only so much time you can apply band aids before you just sat screw it, lets just redo this
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: did not know that
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Nick Gammon, MUSH's creator, plays here, too.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: ya, you dont wanna be patching 20 yr old code
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: this mudd has been around a long time... im glad in 97 i chose this mudd cuz most prolly are gone now from then
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: zmud 7.21 works fine providing the CPU and video is fast enough, and you avoid doing what is known to crash zmud  ?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: LMAO  and you avoid doing what is known to crash zmud
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snagandorf Tech: many of the ones i'v known from like 97 or so are still around
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: soo... what's known to crash zmud?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: they still around? i figured they woulda fizzled
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: my second mud has been around since 93
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: #trigger * {quit}
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: wow not bad
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: very useful trigger indeed
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: if i cant use that trigger i dont use zmud :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: An even better one: #ONIPNUT {*} {quit}
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: shouldnt that be #trigger * {#quit}
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: No.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: on onipnut?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: im sure you can come up with a bunch of runtime errors with ur triggers and macros to crash it
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: in case your ip is nuts?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Damacius: I used to have over 5000 triggers, none of them created any problems for me.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft goes, "Heh."
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: what terrible scripting
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: agree :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Yeah.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Now I have 282. ;)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: and how many com objects?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: where there's a will, there's a way
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: 5000 triggers? and you were not lagged ?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Nope, Zela. ;)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: if zmud could lag this pc, I'd want my money back..for the pc
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Com objects, I have... just one right now, I think. My email script.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: and how many sql objects? :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Well, if you want to count the mapper... over 30k. ;)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus looks around and whistles innocently.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Map Freak Ithilion snickers softly.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: all that and he's still a 5x t0
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: take out the mapper, how much :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: sql objects what do you mean by that
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods at Iron Duck Chuft.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: So related, is the mapper function of much use on Aardwolf? Especially considering the non-static mazes.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: how crap! :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It's wonderful for Aardwolf... Not every area is a maze...
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: the mapper function is the only feature about zmud that makes it stand out as a client
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: If you know how to work the mapper, you'll be good to go.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: agree chuft
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: So the mapper is only good for SOME areas? Or are there ways to get it to disregard maze wandering?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: what do you recommend instead of zmud chuft?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: No, it's great for all areas.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: and u done need a mapper do ya? isnt there a built in map in aard?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It's useful for a lot of things, Damcius.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: you can just run to the beginning of maze with mapper, solve the maze manually and continue with the mapper
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: a mapper mapped map is often better than a webpage supplied map 
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I've pretty muc always used zmud..weren't many options when I started mudding :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: but zugg is a bit crap, really, and cmud just doesn't appeal at all, he can shove that
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: how do i delete something with a unique id in mysql?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dingaling Tech: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/delete.html
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: this seems to be a fun zmud trigger  #trig {*} {~#}
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: hmm ignore that
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: why do you try things like this :(
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir DISARMS you and you struggle not to drop your weapon!
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: people in chaos without a mage remort..
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft tsks Seltsimees Dagnir.  You feel sorry for him.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Setting people's triggers off intentionally is against mud policy. ;)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: it's fun, though
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'll get mage next. i'm >50
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: +% spellcaster
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: and it's a silly policy, if they're too stupid to write bulletproof triggers, it should be lagal to take advantage
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: also legal
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: ^ and $ ftw. :p
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: they don't help
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: with that particular trigger no :)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: wont happen... too many ppl are script kiddies with no real idea how to make "good" triggers
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Yeah, but you can't really anchor the disarms, since no single word starts that line.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: regex ftw :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: ouch, charn, quit pwning me. :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: tech starts that line
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: nice try dagnir but i use ^[\a\s',-]+ DISARMS you and .+!$
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: or is contained therein
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Right, but you'd have to do one for all channels at that rate. :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i just use Power grip, lol
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: DISARMS you and.... :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: or you could just get some aardbracers, since nothing else goes in the slot
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: some people use channel tag :\
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: DISARMS you and.... :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Ah, whoops. I just use my curmob variable.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: thanks dingaling
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: yes, but how hard is it to do a quick lookup table for channel tags/names, especially now?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: weak scripting
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: table? you shouldnt trigger anything if its channel
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: other than the capture to whatever window
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Oh, I'm not saying anything against it. It's possible now, but still, many people DON'T know how to script it properly.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely to Duckbat.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: anyway, emotes are always the best way to play games with people's triggers in pk
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Does anyone else feel dirty after having typed 'finger <playername>'? I mean, I realize the origin of the terminology but...
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: wat is the origin ?  (dont say unix)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Uhm, something about providing status on other systems on the network...
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: no thats it's function
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Well it's a network protocol. An outdated one... I'm not sure what you're fishing for here.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: well you said "I realize the origin of the terminology", i dont know that so i was asking where did the name "finger" come from
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: I'm sure you can finger that out.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: I'm actually wondering where the terminology comes from myself now that it's been brought up...
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taemyr Tech: acording to wikipedia is from running your finger down the who list.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snagandorf Tech: finger used to be a unix command used in networking, cant quite remember but i think it told you ip address of a computer name or something like that
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i could wikipedia it but this guy knows
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: yes Snagandorf, we all know wat it does
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: Nifty.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: So it basically does the same thing here, except it shows off the information labels attached to the domain of the ip (ie, the character's name)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Video Encoding Question: Anyone know how AutoGK compares to Fairuse Wizard on quality? Xvid 700MB AVI, 128kbs VBR MP3 or comparable values.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taemyr Tech: in mushclient, how do I make an alias set a variable chosen based on input to the alias?  Ie. I want setspell fire agitation to set the variable firespell to agitation.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: anyone connect to a MySQL database through cmud?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ozzy's got a page showing how to connect to iwuvaard's mysql using zmud...
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: completely different things tho
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: any idea where abelinc? just looks like the seekers page to me
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://www.conradshome.com/iwuvzmud/
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: thanks
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Is AVG free the best free thing to get rid of trojans/viruses?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cult of Rok Tech: It is if you're a cheapskape.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: I'm only looking for something free, it's not for my computer.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I found AVG Pro, trial edition, very effective the last time I needed to help someone's computer
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Thanks Rathik
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: I think my brain is still sleeping, anyone remembers the formula to resize a picture (using width) and keeping proportion?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: I remember when buying the 512K extra memory for the Amiga500 gave you unlimited memory! Now I'm complaining on my laptop that "only" have 2GB ram...
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Map Freak Ithilion snickers softly.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: how times have changed. :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: inflation in bloat
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Map Freak Ithilion rapidly nods twice at Faulty Bot Elrast, in complete agreement.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: ah well. :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: Read a very amusing forum post earlier, on how to tweak the loader for a 4k intro on an Amiga to save 4 bytes of memory...
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: I don't think programmers these days know what bytes is :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: does !%ismember in zmud means not a member of a list 
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: yes
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Misguided Terrorfist Tech: is there a way to view the license key in zmud 7.21? i cant seem to find it, and need to reformat and reload windows soonish
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: zuggsoft emails you new key right away on site if you can't find
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: that key probably wont work now anyway they only last like 2 weeks
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Misguided Terrorfist Tech: nods, i have a request in for one .. it was submitted a few days ag, no response yet
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Misguided Terrorfist Tech: could i simply copy zmud folder, and after the reformat/installation, paste it back in? would that work, ya think?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: not positive but id doubt it
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Misguided Terrorfist Tech: i paid for zmud well over 10yrs ago, back when it was 20$ .. now its 35 and i dont wanna pay again :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Misguided Terrorfist Tech: bummer .. k, appreciate it
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: its automated emailing of the key, you should try requesting it again, through zuggsoft shop
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Misguided Terrorfist Tech: will do, thank you
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Misguided Terrorfist Tech: ok, this is sad .. i need to use original email and password from when i purchased it? lol, loong time ago, and i cant even remember what i had for dinner last night
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: happened to me :) i emailed zugg and he took care of it 
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: anyone have experience with random crc fails when copying stuff from hdd to a microsd?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: memory problem on the microsd?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no idea. formatted and fdisked. seems to be fine
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: formatted and fdisked the hdd or microsd?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: microsd
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it gives read errors whenever it feels like it. when i try to copy something again it usually works after couple of trys
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: still having trouble with it? 
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Chkdsk?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm pretty sure it's my phone. just wondering why i get read errors, because i'm sure my hdd is healthy
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: have you tried putting the microsd card in a reader? to test that it's a problem interfacing with your phone
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: don't have a reader
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: do you have another device to try using it in?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nope
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i have formatted 2 flash devices... it killed both   =)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: found a nice diagnostic tool for the pocketpc. the thing that confuses me is that i get read errors, not write errors
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: hard core low level muliple writes is bad for flash
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: if you're really concerned about fixing it instead of replacing it i'd suggest researching how memory chips work to help diagnose the symptoms you're experiencing... the basis for how it works fundamentally isn't really complicated.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: anyone here using cmud and use a spellup script?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Spellup command spammage here... I haven't bothered doing a spellup script because of that new command.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: it's not customizable enough for me to be able to do what i'd like to do, but i've been doing the same for a while now.. would like to have a more intelligent alternative
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Intelligent how so?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: lol the only thing spellup cant do is do other people
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: cast spells in a specific order, I.E. true seeing before wolf spirits
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: so just make a client alias ... too easy
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: really kitaro? how would i go about always casting protection good after inertial barrier, and always casting true seeing before wolf spirits and having the spells automatically recast after they wear off?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i can script that sure, but then i'm having to watch my spells more than i'd like
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: auto re-cast would be botting
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: which is legal here, thanks
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: 'Cast wanted spell', 'cast wanted spell 2', spellup, spellup, spellup, etc.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: You force those spells to cast first. :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: but i'd end up having to do that everytime i spellup, xioustic... zmud users get the luxury of using ninja's script (or similar) which is quite the babysitting script, but i loved using it
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: omg it easy just list the spell in the alias in the order you want to cast them
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: and you aren't listening kitaro
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i don't want to recast every spell, everytime
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i only want to recast the spells i'm missing
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: use aardmush and get the spellup plugin
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: and i want it done automatically, "botting"
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: why do you care if you attempt to recast an active spell ?  what do you lose ?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: time
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ologn Tech: mushclient /w spellup is somegood
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: time
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: mana
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: spellup command won't recast something that's already on so it will help.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars nods at Meeper.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: spellup command is manual though, and doesn't show you pretty colored timers :)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Well Scars, you'd need a database of failure messages. You'd make a trigger that would detect those, and add the spells you need to spellup to queue. Your spellup alias would clear the queue (assuming successful cast) and then spellup spam.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: I don't know what Ninja's script does... I could work on porting it over to CMUD if you like, but I always figured zMUD scripts were pretty much backwards compatible.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: which is great, and it's worked so far, and i can set up a trigger to go off on every tick, that's all great and what not... but it doesn't cure the "cast in a specific order" requirement i have
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: well i just check, there is NO lag on recasting an active spell
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taemyr Tech: the tags means that you will not need a database of failure messages.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: kitaro, you're not listening
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: yes i am... you want a bot for something that can be done quick and easy
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: what i want to do is not "quick and easy"
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: and if you think it is, you have no idea what you're talking about
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: what client do you use?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Do you just want Ninja's script? Or do you want a completely new one that does what you want?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: tech -h 30
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: well, in a perfect world, i'd use ninja's (which did not upload into cmud properly, so it didn't work)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: cmud, drachon
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: why do you use cmud over aardmush?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: aardmush sucks
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: odd little man
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: he didnt ask for help with finding a new client.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: used zmud for years before the aardmush, "upgraded" to cmud awhile ago and have found myself wanting to use a new spellup script other than davos'
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: true.... just wondering why he's trying to "reinvent the wheel"
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: davos' script was a good fit for the time, but it was just a temporary solution because it didn't allow me to do a lot of things
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: and like i said before, when i tried to modify it to fit my needs, i ended up causing more problems than it fixed
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: so, i tried gdangus' script and it wasn't any better, unfortunately
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: theres lotsa things that annoy the crap outta me about the aardmush client. i assume other people feel the same way. Personal preferences would be my guess
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: but i've got my answer, so thanks, i guess?  ninja's script is absolutely huge, so don't feel the need to convert it unless you just want a script as well
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: I'm running through what I assume is Ninja's script... Not sure why it wouldn't work the way it's setup.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: The people who get annoyed by the aardmush are more than likely zmud users.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: well, if you can get it uploaded into cmud and get it to work, i'd be happy to learn from you, because i wasn't able to do it :S
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: seriously, i'd be happy to learn from you on that... no sarcasm
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: youre correct inicus because its better
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i switched to mush from zmud, after 10+ years with zmud
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: I fail to see how zmud is "better"
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: /personal preference/
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: and thats why you use aardmush probably
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: zmud has a mapper... thats it
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: I can't ever see myself switching from zMUD/CMUD. The scripting is just too straightforward, the database and mapper is entirely too powerful.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i'm used to zmud (zscript), i'll stick with it
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: zmud doesnt have annoying title bars on each little window
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: That's what I'm saying, people are used to zmud so it's all personal preference
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: if you just want to bot spells in withouth the bells and whistles you could use #alarm +5:00 {spellup 1 201 50 100}
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: so its better, to me, because i prefer to use it
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: nah i was ready for a switch, things about aardmush annoyed me though
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Impotent Inicus nods at Scars.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars nods at Meeper.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i want the bells and whistles tho :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: nods.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: you might have to write your own - it's not so bad once the tag triggers are written.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i'm well aware that my requirements for a spellup script are a little lavish, but that's fine... i'll figure this out or something
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: telling him to switch clients is like telling someone who had a problem with a car to just buy a different car
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: a client isn't that expensive. in fact, it's free.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Drachon chuckles politely.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Who's telling anyone to switch clients?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: that depends..if he wants interactive map support and he doesn't use zmud, he is gonna have to switch clients ;)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: the concept was being applied i wasnt talking about price
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: just as an example
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: i'm sorry. i thought we were just talking about having spellups scripted
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: ironically, i don't use the mapper :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: all depends what you're trying to do, I wasn't paying attention
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miquiz Tetzahuitl Tech: is zmud/cmud the only client with map support?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: so davos wrote you a script and it doesn't do much?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: amazi..cough, get ninja to do a decent one :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: well, he didn't write /me/ a script :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: yes, tetz
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: Anybody know a zmud script for level tracking/reporting?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taemyr Tech: yes only map support that looks usable.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: ninja's gainreporter script velian
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: nogs velian, rimso's websitre has a great one
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: chuft, he just wrote it and put in online for other cmud users to use
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: while we're talking about scripts... does anyone have a link for an aardmush level tracker/reporter?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: whats ninja's website?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: but he hasn't updated it in a while, and there's a few things with it that are... irrigating, to say the least
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: clani rimso
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: er..crimson
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Irrigating? lol
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: damn subs :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: irritating*
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: thank u :)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: what does this error mean?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: Line    1: Expected '<', got "" (content not permitted here) (problem in this file)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It means you're missing something.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Probably the opening angle bracket to an XML import.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: its the nick gammon plugin and it specifies for aard
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Did you copy it, or download it?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i copies between the lines like it said
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: copied*
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: charneus providing useful information?! zomg.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Then you missed the opening angle bracket, like I said.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: ok 
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Menace being a menace?! zomg!
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Global Menace beams a smile at Alt. Helpa Charneus.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: nope it there
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: id agree you probably copied it wrong.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Is it there in your COPY, not on the webpage.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: yes im looking at the copy that popped up when it gave the error message
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: What a burn! Global Menace just showed Hellfiend how they roll in his hood.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Then I don't know what to tell you. Are you sure you're following the instructions verbatim on the page, not just doing what you think you should do?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: verabtim i swear
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: PEBKAC?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods at Global Menace.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: so youre the first person to discover its incorrect?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: or the first one to try that parcticular plugin
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You haven't even said what particular plugin it is.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: its the consider plugin
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Then you're not the first person.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: At least, not the first one to use it.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Hold on. Let me start up MUSH and see for myself. Link, please?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: the link to which? mush it self or the plugin
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=8847 
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: thats the plugin
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Surprise, surprise. I had no error installing it.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Once again, copy it. Save it as an XML file (you do know how to do that, right?) then open up plugins (using shift+ctrl+p works wonders). Then click Add. Then select the file you just saved.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: thats exactly what i did....3 times now
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: well you did it wrong, 3 times now. then
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Fine. We'll do something even a 3 year old using a computer can do.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: press and hold down the power button until the blinking lights stop blinking?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: On that same page, there is a link that says 'Right-click here and download. 
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i got it. i had to use the second post instead
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: ... You were using the first post the entire time?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars looks at Hellfiend and chants, "H! E! R! O!... Hellfiend is my Hero!!!"
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: grats :)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: yes. i figured it wud still work even if it was more work for nick
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: hehe, simple psi spellup script including Inertial Barrier / prot good in correct order, accounts for spell failures...  took 1 alias and 3 triggers in zmud
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: i like to use the more inefficient script too, it makes me feel like im really using my quad core.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Always read through posts to see if there are other issues, or if other people have had issues. If there's a post with another script like so, assume it is updated (or, as it was stated, more efficient) than the first one...
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: so i can understand
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: so, who's alt are you since kitaro == t0 r1 war?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus snickers with Global Menace about their shared secret.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i dont claim to be a 'leet' player... i just know how to code
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: how in the world would you know if you coded correctly if you can't test it?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: because i have a psi
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i need a spellup script for mush but im too retarded to make one lol
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars rolls his eyes, disgusted.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Use the one on the forums
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i didnt see a spellup one
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Impotent Inicus boggles at the concept.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: there's a spellup plugin for mush that is awesome
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=8780
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: Drachon true i use that  =)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: ty
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: For what it's worth, Hellfiend, I was able to do the first post without an error, too.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: So, it was your fault it wasn't working, not the post.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: menace At least he admits he's a retard. ;)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Mis.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Damn it.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: kitaro, i'm a little confused... when did you test this on your ppsi.. you haven't logged off your character since friday... on top of that, did you get zmud just to make the script? or did you make a few aliases and a trigger in mush and use that as your basis to show how easy doing something that was nearly unrelated to what i was asking for?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: and i thought i was the king of mischan, ive been dethrowned
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: dethroned too
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: that's one of the best mischan's i've seen in a while :)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Sad thing is, I type out 'tech' and I use 't' for tell. :\
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i have used zmud for over 10 years
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: so that addresses the second part of my question, the first part though?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: guess
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: you mplayed your ppsi to test?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: that's my guess
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: which, oddly enough, is illegal and a nukable offense
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: did i mention my wife is here with me?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: just hoping you'd clarify how you supposedly made a script to test, then tested it without logging off a character who has no possible way of testing it
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Impotent Inicus walks around in the room, looking very confused.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: so it's not YOUR ppsi, it's HER ppsi... kind of inconsistent
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: nah more like you are pissed and trying to score points
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: with who?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: is there a score keeper?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: the tech channel authority
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: me
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Scars 1 - Kitaro 0.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: you are being deliberaly argumentative
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Odd, my score card also has Rathik - 329
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Impotent Inicus laughs out loud at Rathik.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Your score card is invalid.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: :(
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: tahts what she said
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: you're desperately trying to change the topic now, which is not surprising
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It must have the Aardwolf Seal of Approval to be used.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: repot me
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Repot? Ok.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Indrid Tech: tech
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: report me, yeah i multip played
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Guys, chill out a bit, if anyone is mplaying, they WILL be caught.  That is not an issue
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Map Freak Ithilion flashes a mischievous grin at Quadrapus.  Hmm. is it time to run and hide?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: now show i was abusing the system to gain play advantage
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: tech -h
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: At the same time - it doesn't matter if you abuse the system, mplaying is mplaying :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: thanks kitaro, i must be misinterpreting the rules somehow... i guess mplaying is legal if i don't "abuse the system"
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: If you're not doing anything wrong, you're fine.  If you are, watch out :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: wierd, all these years... i've been doing it wrong
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Indrid Tech: tech sorry. im done
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Multiplaying means you cannot have more than one character online at any given time. This does include link-dead players.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: that obviously leaves room for interpretation
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jiraiya Tech: wrong :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: just make up words along the way
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: ip check and provider check...
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jiraiya Tech: multiplaying is two characters played by the same person
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Jiraiya, what is wrong about it?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: help multiplay:  The general summary of this rule is that each player may have as many
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jiraiya Tech: i frequently "multiplay" by your definition
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Why are you guys all still complaining about this on the tech channel anyways?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: help multiplay:  The general summary of this rule is that each player may have as many characters as they desire, provided none of them interact with each other and nobody else has access to them.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Online at the same time? Including link-dead characters. Trust me.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: If your character is link-dead, and you're on your alt, it's multiplaying, because the first player doesn't leave the realm.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jiraiya Tech: akira and I :p two different people, same IP when we visit eachother
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: you can pass a mplaying test, there are exceptions
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: if you only read half the rule, it makes it okay. dont ruin his dreams
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: then you ask the imms.. duh. :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: as a rule of thumb, is it not fair to use charneus' definition?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: yeah lets just ask an imm... im happy to fess up... why dont we see wat an imm says... im sure the logs will help them
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jiraiya Tech: I concur
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Fine. Let me rephrase the statement, just for you, Jiraiya. Multiplaying is when ONE SINGLE PERSON is in control of two or more characters, even if they are link-dead, at the same time, within the same session. Is that clearer?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Honestly, who cares
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: oh
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: apparently a few of us do :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: If he's multiplaying, he'll get caught.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jiraiya Tech: hit it dead on Charny
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: guess I should stop accidentlly logging on both my chars because I am senile
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars nods at Iron Duck Chuft.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: thanks :)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods at Iron Duck Chuft.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: though nobody's said anything yet :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: no keep on keepin on, nukes make good fireworks!
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Chuft, please log off Inicus right now.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: the finger's on the button chuft! THE FINGER IS ON THE BUTTON!
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: I thought I was Chuft's other char.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: my alt is bad enough, why would I want inicus? :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Impotent Inicus pouts. 
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Now I'm confused :(
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: I'm confused too
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I think a char of mine would be...taller
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Quadrapus bursts out laughing with a single word from Iron Duck Chuft.  The word is, of course, "midgets."
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Quad: Simply put. Chuft is not Inicus. He's Menace. Kitaro is accused of multiplaying, and therefore, according to Mafia rules, we need to vote to see if he is lynched.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I'm menace, or just a menace?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Map Freak Ithilion snickers softly.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: Charneus is multiplaying too
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Both, Chuft, both.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods at Officer Starling.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: your mom is multiplaying
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: ooh. we get to vote on lynching chuft?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Quadrapus tjopps.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: unless you are an imm, why would i care wat you think ?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You laugh mercilessly as Iron Duck Chuft forces A Giant Kraken to plummet from the plank into the icy water.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: Scars, that was a failure.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: so do lynched by proxy?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars has called an Epic Fail on Officer Starling! Scars = 1 Officer Starling = 0
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: do i
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: thats kinda obvious scars
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: nogs, come lynch the t9 avenger
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: it's still worth reminding
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: Starling -> epic failure
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: which pk room did you want me to go afk in? :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: No personal attacks please
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Chuft called me short - plznuke.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: That was my message to the imms.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: I wonder if they got it.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Chuft: classchange thief, entrap your own room, therefore you don't have to wait for someone to hunt out a pk room for you.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: they arent personal, i apply my logic evenly.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: hmm no personal attacks but is it allowed to offend everyone then? :P at least that person i really want to offend is in that group :D
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: yeah, guess I couldn't classchange kessel to entrap it any mo..cough, I mean
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: Correct, Duckbat
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: nice
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: so you can be secularly offensive?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i probably spelled that wrong
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: i dont know what secuarly means :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: i like being widely offensive, its much more fun.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: I love AutoGK.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I never messed with it much. 
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: It just does a wonderful job at batch encoding.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: if im trying to download all the crap i need for the mushclient spellup by nick gammon is there a way to get it all at once? (for some reason when i rihgt click i dont have the option to download)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: did you try just clicking? (it's been a while since i downloaded)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: you should only need 1 file if you have the aard version of mushclient
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: well which one? he has about 7 listed
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: (i'm assuming you're going for the xml for the spellup plugin itself)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: yes i stiil get this 'error Line    1: Expected '<', got "" (content not permitted here) (problem in this file)'
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: Aardwolf_Spellups.xml should be all you need to download
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Impotent Inicus peers intently at Drachon.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Haha... it's the old id-ten-t error.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/mushclient/plugins/Aardwolf/Aardwolf_Spellups.xml
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: save to your plugins folder and install thruogh mush menus
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Are you using the aardwolf mushclient?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: yes i am. that webpage is gone drachon
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You just don't know how to copy/paste correctly. I did it with both posts last time. Don't make me school you again.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: oh
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: You need to right click and save as
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: that quick eh?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Don't just click the link
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: yeah right click the link and save as
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: ok i did that and got a diff eroor
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: Line 1701: Error parsing script (problem in this file)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: did you save the xml to C:\Program Files\MUSHclient\worlds\plugins\Aardwolf\
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: ok i finally got it
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: gratz
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: the error message still comes up but it work nevertheless
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: try quit and restart
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Stop before the 'and' in Kitaro's message, though.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus looks around and whistles innocently.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: harsh, lol
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: lol. i restaarted the error still shows but the plugin works
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Who me? Harsh?! Never.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: meh... as long as it works
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: any clue y if im administrator i cant save my changes to chats?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: lol You also need a "dummy world file" for the spellups to appear in (a world which connects to IP address 0.0.0.0). You can make your own, or download this file: http://www.gammon.com.au/mushclient/plugins/Aardwolf/Spellups.mcl    Put that into the "worlds\Aardwolf" directory, which in a standard installation would be:  C:\Program Files\MUSHclient\worlds\Aardwolf\
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: I've got verizon dsl and a linksys wireless-g router, both connected via ethernet/j-45/cat-5e/or whatever the proper cables are
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: I know the dsl works without the router, and the router was working up until today. I can get into the router via the ip, 
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: I've been into the command prompt and released/renewed the ip, powered down, powered up, and reset both the dsl modem and the router but still can't get the interwebs to work with the router, but it works fine without. any ideas ?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: have you tried pinging fromt he router?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: what changed to make it stop working?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: is there any MAC based filtering by your ISP?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: I dunno, its not mine. just secondhand info so i went and tried all that crap. but I'll look into pinging and try for more info tomorrow
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: omg 3rd hand tech support... lol forget it
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: do your dsl router and linksys router give differen ip ranges?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: if you have dsl, you may need to set up the user/pw in the router
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: to your service provider, that is
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: yeah ppoe
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: nods, thanks for the infos. I'll play again tomorrow
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: itd probably just be easiest to call your ISP and have them ehlp you troubleshoot it
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: youll probably have to do a bunch of dumb stuff you already did though :)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: nods, prolly somethin silly I overlooked
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: thats usually how it is :)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ismene Tech: IM having trouble with commands not going through, I think I need an extra return or something at the end of my commands, any clue on how to fix this
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: what client are you using
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ismene Tech: don't laugh, im on a mac and using a client called atlantis
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: if your commands aren't coming through, how are you talking on this channel?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i was curious on that too
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ismene Tech: well when I type commands it takes an xtra return or something
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ismene Tech: they are going through just takes me 2 or three times...
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i wish i could help, but i don't actually know anything about atlantis
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: it was burnt to the ground once
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: perhaps it's about time they tried that again
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ismene Tech: yeah, im looking for the setting, thanks though. thought there might be an ingame setting
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i thought it was flooded?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: well the problem might be that it's underwater and been lost for many millenia...
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: burnt during the civil war
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it were hitting an extra return, the commands would be operating perfectly, and wouldn't take multiple tries
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: that was savannah, not atlanta iirc
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: an extra return would send the command normally, then you'd just see another prompt
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: possibly..you're the yank ;)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I had read atlanta though, I could well be wrong
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ismene Tech: yeah but im having to press an extra one or something...hmm
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ismene Tech: so im not getting my prompt..er promptly
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: have you tried closing and reconnecting?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ismene Tech: gonna do that now
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: i get the same problem with gmud sometimes if i copy/paste a giant chunk of text
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ismene Tech: It is making me type the command then enter, then enter again to get a new prompt
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: sounds like a "feature" of your client
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: but i wouldn't actually know for certain
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ismene Tech: yeah...didnt used to do this but i did just reload the client
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i'd rummage through the general options and settings for the client if you haven't already
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ismene Tech: ahh...i change my font and didnt reset...must been it
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ismene Tech: thanks for the quick and attentive service guys
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: wooo i made a login box for php that dose not want to work!
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: pr0
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: that's some skillz
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Denarius Tech: You made a 100% hacker-proof login box? Nice!
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: logon scripts are fun
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: *Yay!*  Go Denarius!!!  Global Menace cheers him on.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: haha :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: ok back to working on the stupid thing to figure out why it dont work
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khryss Tech: anyone here?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: no
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khryss Tech: excellent.  do you use muchclient?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: no :)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: i use zmud
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khryss Tech: actually no or just kidding no :D
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khryss Tech: ah
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khryss Tech: hmmm. . . i need to find someone who used mushclient so i can find out how to program the triggers on this one
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khryss Tech: i used to use portal or zmud and their trigger set ups are easy
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: i've done simple triggers in mush, but you're better off asking someone who really uses mush
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khryss Tech: i figured as much.  thanks though :D
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: besides i'm afk'ing for a while
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khryss Tech: btw, do you get the big map and all on zmud?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aramil Tech: nod
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: don't use mud maps, zmud map is much more useful
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khryss Tech: hmmm. . . maybe I'll switch. . .  anyway thanks all
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: that's the reason i use zmud because of its mapper :)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: its nice but the main problem I had with zmud was it was godawfully slow to sendc commands
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: OMFG WHAT IS PIFTS.EXE AND WHAT IS IT DOING TO MY PC?!
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: lmgtfy.com
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: Haha, sure :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: Just so many people running around like headless chicken with it at the moment :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skinner Tech: how can i remove an instance using actionscript in flash_
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skinner Tech: is the syntax like "_root.instancename._remove" or what?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skinner Tech: anyone ? =)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: anyone knows of a good way to generate random numbers in assembly?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: the Knuth algorithm used by some muds is defective
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: questor's rng is defective
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: questor's rng is defective
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: lol
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: sry
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snagandorf Tech: if i remember right you take some huge number, seed with timer to start, and each itteration multiplys by some huge number, adds some huge number, and than modurly divides by some huge number
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: there must be a correct combination of these numbers though
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: unless a Mud publishes the algorithm(s) used to generate random numbers AND HOW THE GENERATOR IS USED, difficult to provide theoretical proof that that the random generator usage is biased
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: all random number generators are flawed
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Snagandorf: that algorithm is often modulusly-defective 
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: that's why they're pseudo
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sparhawk nods.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snagandorf Tech: build a random number machine that uses a bingo barrel
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i read a decent rand() in asm once it was like 3 lines and involved a particular prime number... been a long time tho
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: yeah now im finding out how to do it in asm :p
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: The RNG is this: weight=random(1,100);if weight<75 (questpoints=random(8,12)) (questpoints=random(8,25) *inno*
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: hah
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I think you could show that it's biased without the algorith -- you just try it 
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: but you'd need to count over a statistically significant number of whatever to determine
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Not to mention include everyone's quest points.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Not just yours.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: nah, you could make a fair determination from 1000+ of your own quests
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: RNG=(69069*RNG + 69069) MOD 2^32
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: but everyone I know with 1000+ has an average right around where the average ought to be
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods at Dispel Majic.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: [Quest Records: 644/675 (95.40)%)] [Basic Rewards: 10,808(9452+1288+68)qps 1,843,022gold] [Bonus Rewards: 89 pracs 27 trains 6 TPs] [Averages: 16.78 qps/quest 32s/quest] 
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: That's not even 1000. :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: Quest Stats: 230 Quests. 5 TPs. 11 Trains. 40 Pracs. 3,249 QPs 16.18 (14.12 + 0.06 + 0 + 2) QPs/Quest. 599,089 Gold (2,604.73 per). Average Time Per: 0m 33s.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: same script...
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Obviously NOT the same script. ;)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: But same premise.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: nods but einstein's actually reports the base qps which is interesting. but i still don't think it's far enough off to claim bias, even after 230 quests
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: you could calculate the variance and estimate where the true average would lie :p
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Majic: I imagine you're talking about base qp average, not just base qp. ;)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snagandorf Tech: tell me if this will work, write a random number generator in say c/c++/any language that has one u realy like, compile it, and decompile into assembly to see what there rand() actually looks like
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: uhm, yeah?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Mine shows base qp, too. (9000+blah+blah)... just didn't show the base qp average. *shrug*
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: But, my average is 14.67 for base.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: hmm. anyone heard of the linear congruential generator for random number generation? :p
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: nods, his didn't show the total base, of course anyone with a calculator can get it.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: prob a bit late but here is a small rand () in asm    ftp://ftp.scene.org/pub/mirrors/amigascne/SceneSources/BigTime/2/Random.s
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i wish i could find the one i knew years ago, it was great, a quarter of the size of that
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: cool :)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: was looking for something of this sort :p
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agnol Tech: on the mush client how do i change the keymappings?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: there is an Accelerator function
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: got one for all of you "we can fix it" buffs
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: how do you go about resetting windows updates in vista to solve updating problems?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus waits for the oh so comical response of 'format your computer.'
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well, charneus, i love xp, but in vista they seem to have removed all the ways of repairing an installation
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you have system restore or full reinstall, nothing inbetween
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why they had to go and remove the inplace-repair facility and the system file checker is beyond me
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I wasn't saying anything about it, period. Was just anticipating someone who thinks they're funny saying "Format your computer. Vista sucks. Get Linux. Get Mac. Get <insert something stupid here>"
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well vista -does- suck, they'd be right there
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Windows 7 is much better, compared to Vista.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: tigernuts
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Mis.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: jim
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Meant to put a -h in front of that.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what, htigernuts?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: is that like a p-hishing filter?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: http://www.vistax64.com/software-tools/183498-windows-update-reset-repair-tools.html
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: known in my workshop as a pissing filter
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus snickers with Tigernuts about their shared secret.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: need to get a couple of picture frames tomorrow to mount this 386 and 486 in
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus chuckles politely.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: sods law the main solution given in that link leads to a dead page
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Heh. I didn't even check them.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: how do you change which window output goes to?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: on zmud?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: umm... the coords tag, what's the first number?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: Anyone have a nifty regex to strip escape sequences from a string?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: What exactly are you trying to do?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: Remove colors
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: but i seriously blow at regex :(
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Are you talking ansi colors, then?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: Yeah, I have a trigger that captures the text i want, with colors for my eyes pleasure, but i want to log it also - and strip colors in the logs
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: afk a bit, phone
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: zMUD? Use  on each line that enters the log.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You know, z/CMUD does that automatically. :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: stripansi rather, lol
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Or, simple enough, uncheck 'log ansi color' in preferences.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: aah... duh :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: is it possible to use more complex code in a user-defined function in zmud? For example look up a database based on a parameter and return a certain value from that database
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: yep
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: whenever i try and evaluate the value of that function it just shows me whatever code i typed into it
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: can you paste it?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: nod, gimme a sec
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: and your calling it like it @myfunc(VAL) right?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: #VAR rs2 %comcreate( "ADODB.Recordset")
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: yup
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: "#VAR rs2 %comcreate( "ADODB.Recordset");sql2 = %concat( "Select * from areas where id=", %1)#CALL s2.open(ql,onnStr,2);#if (!s2.eof) {  #call s2.MoveFirst;s2("name").value} #call s2.close;#var rs2 ""
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: anyone use the exp_gain plugin for mushclient?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silverlyn Tech: ooh! ooh!
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: wow that looks like crap but basically im trying to match the area name from its id from the database and return it as the function's return value
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: ok havent used zmud in a while but dont think you can do all that, your using commands not sure if that works in zmud but anyway you should be returning a value, 
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: hmm ok i'll poke around a bit more thanks :)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: a simple function is #FUNC add 0, dont quote me but i believe your stuck using only functions in a function in zmud 
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: yea simple functions work fine for me, I'm just wondering whether a more complex one with database retrieval functions would work
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaspious Tech: anyone who knows vista that can send me a tell in regards to zmud
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: What do you need?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: run as administrator
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Officer Starling slaps Alt. Helpa Charneus.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: If you're having trouble running it, run as adminstrator.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: turn off uac
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: do NOT turn off uac...
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: would that be a reason y i cant save my modifications to chat? shud i run as admin?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: that's like trying to kill a fly with a sledge hammer
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: No, because you need to save the files to some place other than program files.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars nods at Alt. Helpa Charneus and says, "I concur." Why didn't you?!
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: how do i change the default save location for chats?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Upon install. ;)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: does anyone know how to do the equivalent of ISNULL in ooBase?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: IS NULL
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: ok maybe I'm not doing this right so I'll elaborate...i'm trying to create a calculated field in a query that returns the aggregate sum of a field in a table. problem is if all the fields happen to be null at the time if returns no answer but i want it to return 0
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: i've tried CASEWHEN("field1"/2.00 = "",0, "field1"/2.00) and IFNULL("field1"/2.00,0)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blacklight Tech: hey what client is best to use with a unix based OS?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: tintin?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tinyfugue's the best to use with all OSes :-)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blacklight Tech: ty
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: on zmud, how do i prevent alternate windows from having status bars and command lines when i reconnect?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: even when I close mushclient without quitting properly, the quest reset timer still shows at 30 the next time I log in. Is there anything I can do about that?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: is the map tag working?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: can i get some zmud help please?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: with?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Depends. We can't help you if you don't tell us.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: my map tags arent showing up, i've cleared all my triggers
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: i have tags map on
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Did you try looking to see if it's enabled in a different client?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: i type tags
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You didn't answer my question, though.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: no i didnt
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You should try it in another client before assuming it's your client that's doing it. ;) And tags map shows as on?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: type "tags on" maybe?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: i'm on another client, yes the map tags are on
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Do you care about keeping ANY settings in zMUD right now?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: and they show just fine on the other client
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: i cleared the settings and it didnt help on the zmud client
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: i can afford to lose the settings though
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: I would back up all settings on zmud, then execute a #killall, then. because zmud can have invisible settings
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: likely the culprit here.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Use #KILLALL. You'll lose everything, though.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Type 'tags on' to be sure, 'tags off' will temporarily turn them off.. but keep them as "YES" in the tags list
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: We're way past that.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Oh, pfft.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus bonks Impotent Inicus on the head for being such an UTTER moron.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: That's what I get for not checking tech -h
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Impotent Inicus pouts. 
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: while we're on the topic, is there a way to permanently turn off the secondary window command and status bars?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: when i turn them off and save, it just comes back when i reload
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: i mean reconnect
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: you have any non-native zmud windows? like any captures?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: i was experimenting with captures yes, thats how i got into this mess
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: then you need to save settings for every window (as their own .MUD files) and you can fix the status bars, etc by making each window active, then going to preferences..
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: I forget the specifics as I havent used zmud in a few weeks, heh.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: oh the settings are on a per window basis?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: yup.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: yep
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: whatever window you have selected your settings will be different for that then main window
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: are the triggers on a per window basis?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: yep.  all settings
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: alias/variables/paths, the works
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: oh, that's probably my problem then
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: i spent about an hour reconfiguring some settings the other week, and was in the wrong window.  i was kinda pissed
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: i probably loaded stuff into the wrong window or something
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: ok. view -> prefs -> general -> user interface (show status bar), then -> command line (attached command line)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: that will get rid of those (make sure you're in the proper window, it will say 'Preferences for (window)'..)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: okay i'll take a look at the other window settings, see whats all messed up there
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: thanks
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: thanks for the help, the alternate windows must have been messing it all up
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: i've created separate settings for each window and now i'm ok
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: On a TI-83, I can hit 2nd+entry repeatedly -- each time it'd bring up a different previous line.  On a TI-85, I can only recall the most recent previous line...is there a way to recall prior previous lines on an 85?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Doesn't look to be so, Leinei.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: the edge color of the radial gradiant image
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: mis
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaspious Tech: any know how much of a diferance there is between cmud and zmud
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: plenty :)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Speed.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: lua !
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Many, many differences.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaspious Tech: guessin have to get a whoe new set of scripts aswell
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: speed, features, lua, less buggy architecture, sql db, etc etc. :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: nah, not really
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: i thought cmud was cheaper? why wouldn't you by it?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: well it imports zmud scripts well, never had a problem
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Not really, Vaspious. A majority of scripts need minor tweaking to work in CMUD. Plus, it does import.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaspious Tech: zmud scipts will work on cmud then?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: anyone know a good free app for windows mobile that handles multiple jabber accounts and aim?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sage-like Doja Tech: it wont let me save my settings...says aardwolf.mcl acecess is denied...
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're on vista?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sage-like Doja Tech: yes
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: turn off UAC, run as administrator, or install MUSH somewhere other than program files
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sage-like Doja Tech: ty abe
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xelja Tech: anyone know if there is a way to be using MCCP without installing anything (ie. java/flash client)?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: which client?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xelja Tech: well, anything really
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: oh sorry I saw flashclient.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xelja Tech: i'm currently using the java client from the website
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: well its on zmud, cmud, mush and others as base.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: there is a mccp proxy for unix
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: so with them you don't have to do anything.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xelja Tech: hmmm, well the issue is that i'm at work, and they don't mind me playing games when i've got free time, but i can't really install anything
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: help mccp proxy
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: yes well maybe the proxy is the way to go however you have technically installed something anyway.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: oh... can you ssh to your home computer then play from that ?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xelja Tech: heh, maybe, sounds like too much effort though :)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: use the java client on the web site then
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xelja Tech: thanks for the help
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: it will suck hard tho, it's only good for chat
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Man... Having a numpad to navigate/potion/attack makes a whole lot of difference in speed. :D
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: what is a good program that will track browsing history that is not easily traced by the average user
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: squid
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: is that a serious answer?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: yes
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: how does it work? i'm looking at it now. basically i have someone who looks at questionable content on my computer and then deletes the history. i want a way to make sure i can still look at it without them knowing
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: sounds like you need to change your password and lock your workstation when you leave it
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: Problem is then my wife can't use the comp. she's the one i'm trying to catch.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: if you are trying to 'catch' your wife you should just confront her now
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: she denies it, but i'm not stupid.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i can look at the history on the computer and tell there are links missing
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: if you dont have trust the marriage is already over
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: that's not what I'm here to discuss, unfortunately. I'm trying to find a program.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: just get a keylogger.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i would use squid
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: but i cant teach you to use it, but a can tell you there is a windows port and there are docs to get you going
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: What would you consider "questionable" content anyways?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: I also agree with the opinion of using Squid
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: then use calamaris to analyse the logs
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: I was just reading about squid and it seems to be more of an acellerator rather than a tracker
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: well you can start us off by telling us what browser your using
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: if you want a more specific answer
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: firefox
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: squid is a web proxy, and it has very detailed logs
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: what about hooey?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: ok, there two plugins you may consider using
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: Slogger or Breadcrumbs
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: i'm not 100% if they are affected by history clearing
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: but you can try it
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: the fact its integrated into FF doesn't mnake it seem suspicious
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: yeah, i heard slogger isn't supported in ff3 tho
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: people have tried it
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: and say it works
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: try it?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: yeah, i'm trying breadcrumbs now
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: try Slogger too
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: breadcrumbs is more like a search engine thing
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: yeah, breadcrumbs doesn't seem to work like i thought...
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: go try slgger
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: it won't let me install it. :(
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i think this is what you want http://www.spectorsoft.com/products/SpectorPro_Windows/entry.asp
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: that's a bit overboard, but yeah.. i'll try that
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: http://www.stanford.edu/~mmogri/interests/coding/slogger_autofix_20081004.xpi
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: http://www.stanford.edu/~mmogri/interests/coding/slogger_autofix_20081004.xpi
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: updated api thingy
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: where does slogger save the history to?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: yeah slogger isn't working for some reason
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: someone called "trident mediaguard" are attempting 10 connections a second to my torrent port...  methinks they object to me download the lastest "linux iso", lol
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: lol
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: log their IPs and send them a scare letter
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: meh    Trident Mediaguard  13 rue de la Loire  44230 St Sebastien sur Loire  FR
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i cant touch them in france
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: do it, email them
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: you don't have ot
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: you just scare them
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: or use their IP, and connect 10 times to their port heh
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: nah they wont care, they are pro's hired by riaa
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: well find some way to screw with them
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: "packet silently dropped"
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: hey stapleface you still looking for some logging ap?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: hmm, there used to be good software that would act as bait for tcp connections, and hold them open as long as possible, in an attempt to slow down things like that
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: tarpit
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: yeah that sounds right
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: yeah, i'm still looking. that spector didn't work either. avg thinks it's a virus. 
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: well cause its like a keylogger
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: i'm not surprised
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: LaBrea was the one i was thinking of
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: it doesn't recognize kgb as one tho
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: I sent you a tell, try that
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i'm checking that as soon as i figure out how to uninstall spector..
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: just config avg to ignore spector...
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: that's what i'm doing now
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: still not working.. go figure.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: brb. gotta restart
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: anyone? just to check, in C++, private data members of the base class can never be accessed in the derived class?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: aluminium skinned laptops are a bad idea
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bloody vista, hate it
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if anyone knows how to force vista to do it's updates without conking out, let me know
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: conking .. that sounds like a technical term 
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: end your self-abuse, use linux
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: bah :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not my pc, error code 800b0100, anyone find a solution that i haven't tried, let me know
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: ubuntu is a nice way to get into linux
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: shame about the creative driver support..
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft goes, "Heh."
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: or lack thereof
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: yeah ubuntu can be a little slow off the mark at times
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: it's general linux, there are no good drivers for my creative card
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: in linux
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: most likely creative's fault rather "linux" per se
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: shrug..the fault is irrelevent, I want my 200 quid soundcard to work , the hardware rocks :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well, going to try a clean boot with no non-ms stuff loading
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: so while it's a fun toy,linux still needs better hardware support before I even bother dualbooting it on my main machine
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: it will work for a couple of onths then it will be back to 15 min shut downs and the like
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: try ubuntu
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I am using it
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: not on here, though
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: if you bought it on the understanding that creative aren't going to provide/help provide linux drivers then don't blame linux :)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: xp ftw :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: try windows xp
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: nogs, howwrong of my to blame linux for not supporting one of the best gamer's cards on the market..also one of the most popular ;)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: other than not being able to capture HDV files it kicks window's bottom
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: heh..ubuntu ran considerably slower than the xp build on the test machine ;)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: subjective
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: ahhhh ... if u a gamer u will prob then need a dual boot
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: but that's not an os thing, it's because I don't know enough about linux to tweak it
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: some companies hide their lack of technical innovation by hiding details of their drivers - most likely using the OS to do the heavy-lifting instead of hardware :)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: nothing wrong with the technical innovation at the hardware level on the x-fi
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: it's by far the best pc soundcard on the market at domestic price ranges..or was when I bought it
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: you can download a "live" verion of ubuntu that boots off a CD
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: nogs kupp, got that, but I just use vnc to the machine next door for an ubuntu desktop atm
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: it doesn't change anything but allows you to test for compatibility issues
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: vnc is the remote desktop app? something like that
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: erm
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: for ultimate driver support you'd want to look at slackware or one of the "unstable" flavours
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: xfi is a hardware-accelerated soundcard, that's the whole point
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: I use a dual boot and ubuntu is great for a dummy like me
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: but I have to use vista for MUSHclient :(
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: well, last time I tried slackware I had no luck with drivers, driver config in linux is hard for a newb, and windows is just so smooth :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: though ubuntu, aside from the sound, did an excellent job
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: except for vista, which is bloody rubbish
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Creative is usually crap hardware -- there are more into marketing tricks and monoply instead of hardware excellence
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: well, not touching vista ;)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: eh? what rot
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: if your hardware have linux drivers then everything is plain sailing otherwise, good luck
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: you can keep it, jim :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: eh, ubuntu has been running ok for a couple of weeks, been using it for some c
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: but I find I don't remember much c :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why is it that nix fanboys believe that any company who is a leader in their field has a monopoly and produces second rate products?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: it's like idie music .... it's about fighting the man
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: xyliz is not a *nix fanperson, he's just an anti-digital person
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: they don't like companies who are secretive about their specs, even if they have bloody good reason to be, like creative
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: creative already got massively burned by apple and the whole ipod drama
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: creative labs have always produced the best consumer-grade sound cards
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: since the very beginning, really
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Microsoft is an example of a 'leader' that produces crap software
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: Hear Hear
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: the first ones, too :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: apple, ugh
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: if they didn't give it away with the hardware they'd be screwed :)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: yeah, apple and their overpriced underspecced crap ;)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: heh, you think microsoft are closed and secretive? they aren't a patch on apple for that
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Apple likes monopolies
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: btw who's actually having the OS issue?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: me ;-)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: anyway, creative not releasing hardware specs is apperntly why the linux driver support for the card in question is so poor, or so I read while broswing forums and whatnot looking for it
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: what do you use your pc for?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: who cares about apple's bad practices - they only affect a few % of the market, whereas with MS ...
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: yeah, ms is so bad that the competition can't give an os away ;)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nogs, given that people and businesses vote with their wallets, if m$ was so bad, they'd use free alternatives
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: i keep saying, where there are no issues with legacy apps the competition is kicking windows arse
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xyliz is pro-analog music instead of that gutted digital-noise that some believe is music
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: ever seen the word apache on a webserver?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the local government here tried moving from m$ office to a free alternative a few years back, after the year was up, they went straight back again
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: it ain't windows. If you need stability.... *nix is the way to go
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: *Yay!*  Go Xyliz!!!  Meeper cheers her on.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: do you have a tt xyliz?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: my xp is perfectly stable, too
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: it depends what you're doing
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: tt?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: so is ubuntu, to be fair
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: XP is better than vista
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: turntable :P you know - analog.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i can understand what they tried to do with vista, but what resulted was a complicated, bloated, cluttered looking os that you simply can't repair
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: nod. ever noted how the specs for an app needs more power under vista?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: yeah, but i use cassette tapes recorded from the turntable
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: oh yeaaaaah.... a mix tape :)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I've never really used vista..I read the reviews and avoided it
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: plug turntable into stereo and record straight to usb
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you're not in a poasition to complain about digital music if you listen to tapes
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: cassette tapes do not develop pops and crackles with repeated playing
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: don't scratch
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: however, cassette tapes exhibit tape stretching
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: which leads to tape failure
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: those analog cassette tapes (from a turntable) are far far superior to CD digital
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: cassette tapes have horrible dropoffs at low and high frequencies
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so they produce lovely music, provided your hearing is shit
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: LOL
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: ROLF
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: lol... another technical term used by big nuts .. 
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if you believe that digital sounds better than true analog, then you are brainwashed peon (that is partially deaf in the ears and partially braindead in the head), and or perhaps you are not yet trained in audio discernment
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: I've heard some pretty nice Analog systems and they're nice - but not tape - lp's.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: mind you some of the high end cd systems are pretty nice too :)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if you use cheap tape, and a cheapo tt cartridge, and a cheapo cassette recorder -- maybe the sound then is cheap
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: regardless of how good your cassette recorder is, it has a limited frequency response
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: balderdash
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's true, you look at your tape technology
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the cassettre equipment i used was able to transfer the sound of a pin dropping -- a digital CD 'd not even transfer the pin drop
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the frequency range of cassette tapes is far superior to that of digital CD
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: the convienence of a cd is far superioer to that of a cassette tape
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: don't know about that xyliz - cd will go beyond the limits of human hearing.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the convenience of listening to digital crap is not a greatly desired convenience  
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: fanboi, yeesh
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: tapes are restricted to 20hz-20khz, and that's with a high-end player/cassette
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: range on cd's are much higher
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: range of hearing isn't, though ;)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: when an audiophile hears true analog of a favorite song, that is like an excstatic endorphin-high, which digital is unable to provide as intensely
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: do you sit in a sound proof, acoustically perfect room when you listen to your tapes?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: my armpit hairs when plucked make me scream better then that range tigernuts ..
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: cause if you don't, then its all wasted.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: good quality stereos can respond from 12hz to 22khz
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the pleasure of analog is that a quiet room is sufficent to get that ecstatic analog-rush -- none of that sound-proof accoustically-perfect-room crap
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: if I have to invest in old technolog to get that "rush" i might as well go and set up a drug lab
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: is that the "warmth" the audiophiles talk about
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: I've got a mate into vinyl
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: vinyl is cool, nothing wrong with vinyl
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: nods i know this woman that likes leather ...
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: and whips?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: don't lie, doa
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: it was a wombat
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i buy vinyl. they tend to give me free cd's with them
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: well vinyl wears out
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: actually i like leather household items too 
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: tigernuts has a lot of vinyl, too
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: that is the instense orgiastic detail that analog-junkees enthuse about 
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I've never known him to actually listen to any of it, however
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: can't atm, turntable busted
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: hes gonna sell it for millions
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: nods he collects abba albums
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: not much point for me, too deaf to notice any difference :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft nogs at Doa. Freaks!
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i traded my turntable for records :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: often to be found prancing around to abba in the blue oyster of a friday night
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: remember laser discs?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nothing wrong with abba
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: double sided beasts
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: qed
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: digital CD is unable to provide that intense orgiastic detail that analog provides  --  "intense orgiastic detail" is euphemistically called 'warmth' in polite company
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: jeese.... big nuts
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: PLENTY wrong with Abba tribute bands though
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: tributes, yeah
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: plenty wrong with cheesy pop no matter the year or band
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: went lit on fire xyliz?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: such as it being shit, for example
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: men with hats?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: I love it. we start off bitching about Creative labs and now we're onto cheesy pop
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: oops, all my fault there :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: cheesy pop sounds worse on creative labs cards !
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: there .. joined to threads together
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you drink cheesy pop?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: err two
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: doa is the kind of guy who enjoys abba so much that he compares the quality of their songs on competing soundcards
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: I love it. the randomness of it. That's analogue beating digital right there
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I am very good at random spam, it's one of my few skills
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: thats the sound of a needle scratching your record worth 2500 
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: unlike coding with sensible variable names
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I use perfectly sensible variable names
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I always know what they are
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: so you test video card performance by the UT benchmard and the sound card by abba? (yes, I'm an old fart ... last benchmark I did was in 2002)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I've been meaning to find out what people use for benchmarking these days
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: got a new pc last week, heh
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: i bench mark by games .. if the vid card makes the game unplayable .. i buy another
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: people care about sound speed ?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: sound quality
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: actually, one of the things I like most about the x-fi is the remote that works with winamp :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: commander keen's a good benchmark. How about using aardwolf for processing power and internet speed?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: signal to noise?  or wat?  cant see humans knowing better than 16bit 44k
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: heh..don't think zmud is very multitrheaded ;)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: if my geforce can handle nethack im happy
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: zmud is multi-screwed
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: just gotta wait fomr somebody to bring back my supreme commander gamefiles :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: Bugger! I just died
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft prods Tigernuts into action!
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: any good linux strategy games?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: shut up and do some work instead
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft frowns sadly and looks at Tigernuts and goes 'meh..'
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: terrible plan!
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: not that I've come across
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: wesnoth
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: isnt the best linux strategy game "dis windows and all other distros and macos" ?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: LOL
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: I thought the best strategy game of linux is to get stuff to run on linux
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: since linux saves you so much time you can afford some of it to dis people :)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: ahhh apt-get works a treat. 
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: notepad vs vi for usability :p
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: dpkg wins
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nano :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: as long as u stick to a debian flavour - It's all good
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: vim is nice too
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: real men use sed
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: gedit
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: debian is win
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: <<<< not real man
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: hmm tough one .. mac os x vs linux :p
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I always used pico, but that was a habit from 1994 :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: depends on your needs
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: or is that a .. who cares!
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: nano = pico
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: even somebody with normal hearing may be trained to discern and follow the background instruments detail that is fully present in analog, but is intermittent, partially-absent, or fudged-fuzzy in digital music
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: your beating a dead horse xyliz
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: gedit didn't autoindent code, gotta find something decently idelike for linux coding
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: there is a cool editor for linux thats just like the old dos borland ide 
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: cant remeber name tho
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: shame..I liked the borland ide, it was the one I learnt c in
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I even bought the c++ one, heh
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: same i learnt to code in turbo pascal then turbo C
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: except for cutting and pasting shift+ctrl+insrt or something wierd
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: the one I bought was an early 32bit windows ide
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: version 4.5 iirc
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: with that cochroach game as a demo?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: don't recall the demos..was a long time ago now
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: used codewarrior when I did my compsci degree
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: tubro pascal 6, then tp7, then TC3.x i think
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: and once a human realises that analog is "full sound" and that digital is "intermittent partial sound", that human is usually 'converted' to "full analog appreciation", unless there is a monetary bribe that corrupts that human to be dishonest
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: someone take away the dead horse
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: <<< TP6 + Pointers caused havoc
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: lol i still remember ariable
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: lol i still remember @variable
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i loved tp6 objects....
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: ahhhh.... TP days
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: except my 386 couldn't handle objects to well
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xyliz goes back to flogging quests every 30 minutes -- quests while qsitting often do look like dead horses
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: pascal is a rockin language... and it's fast if you strip out all the saftey junk
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: I tried C, but when it spent 45mins linking the math unit for a hello world i just couldn't get it
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: lol wow my 486sx25 wasnt that bad
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: ahhh the math co-pro
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: sx = no math coproc
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what version of C (manufacturer) takes 45 minutes to link the math-modules to "hello world"
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: c was fun when you deliberately pointed to memory set aside for drivers etc so it rebooted ya mates code when they stepped away to the coke machine in the hall :p
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: Borland C++ 3.1 on a 386 DX40 
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft . o O ( int 19h )
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: haha
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: 40 odd 3.5" floppies
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: not that I'd ever do that
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: I thought I was the shit with that set up
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft coughs loudly.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: yeah i skip the 386, i went from 286 to 486... 486 op codes were massivly more effiect than 386
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: hey, i got Borland C++ v4.0 for Win3.1 and Dos -- works okay 
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: I just fooled around on it. I wasn't a hard core coder or anything. Windows OOP baffled me :(
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: nod i hate windows coding
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: Borland had a version of delphi for free download a few years back ... that seemed promising
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: I'm embarrased to say that I like pascal a LOT more than C
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: (but then I like McDonalds more than a steak dinner)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: then you haven't had a good steak
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: felt prefers tubesteak
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: nah pascal is a good language, but C had pure speed and portability on it's side
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: and i have stacks of magazine cover cd's with old full versions of borland languages
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: borland screwed up big time when the only started giving away command line tools only
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: thats when i said "hello gcc\n";
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: I'm gonna be honest. Last time I coded was in the 90's. My impression of coders these days is bloatware. I remember fooling with 640K EMS XMS and runtime overflow errors. I know I sound like a "back in my day" but the coders of the 80's ... they were the shit. Cult of Dead Cow and the like. Those guys knew about computers
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xyliz got the original Pascal produced by Borland --  came in a book with a floppy
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: nice
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: cheap hardware has cheapened coding skills
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yup
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: but honestly, there's not the need fo skill these days
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i copied my first version of TP6 from a technical college computer lab pc... i wasnt even a studnet, lol
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: same with dos 5
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: kitaro ... i'm guilty of borrowing dBASEIII+ that way
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: hehehe
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: I spent a semester learning to normilize databases to save space, great skill now
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: not
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: shouldn't you be normalising databases from the point of conception?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: look at peachtree accounting.. its got nothing like normilized
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: what's normalized? Balanced?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no, kupp, normalisation in databases is a specific thing, you'll have to look it up
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: first normal, second normal, third normal forms
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: a file that has zip code does not need city and state also, so you code a new file to translate zip to city state to save space
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: as in a relation?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: is that a case that an analog McDonalds burger is better than an digital steak dinner
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: nah, ANYTHING is better than ANYTHING cooked by me
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: your main file does not need city,state and zipcode only zip
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: unless the first anything  (1.anything) is from the same table as 2.anything
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: anyways, how does this help us create a holodeck for .... er ... pleasure
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kupp Tech: Night Tech Channel
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: cya
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: oh ffs
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: "An internal error occured while installing the service pack. Error code 0x800B0100"
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: reinstall windows
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: thermite the bugger
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: beginning to think i might have to
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: Is it a common occurrence to have to specifically filter out (or in rather) specific MAC addresses to get a PSP to work on a wireless router?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: that's the usual windows "professional" response
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: MSCE test: how do i fix X ?  reboot, then reinstall
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: hmm anyone familiar with zmud
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: #if (%line=~"~{~/roomchars~}") {#gag} fails to gag the {/roomchars} tag
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: probably not, it's a popular client and tech after all
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: would ~" at the end work?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: the = in front is to match a pattern in the string %line
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: the "" is to identify {/roomchars} as a string
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: you shouldnt have to escape them
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: you have ~ at the start though
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: escape what, linoge?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: the quotes
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: without the quotes, it reads #if (%line=~~{~/roomchars~}) {#gag}
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: zmud says its a syntax error
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: #if (%line="{/roomchars}") , not sure if thats the problem but that will work if line is {/roomchars}
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: all i can say is this is a complete arse-bandit, and there are no fixes online whatsoever
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: how very frustrating
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: linoge, i changed the "{/roomchars}" to {{/roomchars}} and it works
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: however, because i am trying to parse the mobs in a room, and append something to the mob name of a mob if it is a cp mob
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: #if always starts with a {}  :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: no its supposed to start with parenthesis, but zmud is lacking checks :p
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Map Freak Ithilion nods at Linoge.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: #if (%line=~{healer}) {#psub {!} %x1} gives me an infinite loop
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: that's why I switched to cmud. :P you wouldnt get away with that in cmud
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: im trying to detect a mob named healer and sub an ! in its place
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: well is %x1 {healer}?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: where was the 2nd "
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: yeah
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: im doing a multi state trigger
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: there was no ~ before the 2nd "
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: xyliz the problem of {/roomchars} not being gagged is solved..
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i just use #regex {blah} {#sub %1 %null} to nuke the tags
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: dagnir, i'm trying to do a multi-line trigger to loop in between the open and closing roomchar tags, to detect the mobs in a room
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you can use the first tag to activate the trigger that gets the names and another one to turn it off
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: don't really need multiline
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: #COND {} {#if (%line=~{healer}) {#psub {!} %x1}{#if (%line=~{~{~/roomchars~}}) {#PSUB {} %x1;#gag}} {looplines|param=10|disable}
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: exactly what im doing dagnir
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: my first trigger on {roomchars} will gag it, then activate the condition stated above
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: the COND trigger works to gag the {/roomchars} however, it gives an infinite loop if any line appears in between {roomchars} and {/roomchars}
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 5 million gold for the person who can correctly solve this Windows Update error
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: If you see Dashiell . o O ( YEWS LINIX LOL )
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: there is no ~ before the 4th }  and there is no space between }{
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: theres no need for those xyliz
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: yeah, let zmud waste extra cpu cycles deciding whether the } is or is not the end of the triggercode
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: Shoddy coding. :P and even sloppier parsing.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: yes it is thats is why i am asking for help on tech
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Actually, Einstein, it IS better to put the ~ in front of the } after healer.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: not all of us are cs majors
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: yet
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: then take the help offered. :)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: dude'
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: serious
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: ask for a rename.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: I bet they'll give it to you, free of charge.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: lol 
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: "Einstein Tech: theres no need for those xyliz".. <- that tells me you dont want help
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: i like the name
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: i tried it and it makes no different ithilion
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: just because it looks fine in zmud doesnt mean it's right
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: difference
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: And, yes, you do need the space between the }{#IF
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: That's only part of your problem, Einstein. 
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: it appears tt way in tech coz i edited it in the command line myself after pasting.. it was multi line 
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: But if you don't want to listen to someone who's been scripting on both zMUD and CMUD for over 10 years, that's fine. I've got much better scripts to write than to help you.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: And your #COND is so screwed up anyway. 
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Especially if you're trying to match a friggin' line with {healer} in it.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ologn Tech: You guys are funny :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: uh ok.. so what should i match it with tts what im trying to ask
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Follow your namesake and figure it out. You want to seem to argue with people who know what they're doing, so why should I even attempt to give you a suggestion if you're just going to say 'I don't need that.'?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: the formating for the COND i pasted is screwed up..it appears tt way in tech coz i edited it in the command line myself after pasting.. it was multi line 
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Then say that first before saying 'I don't need that.'
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: sorry if i came off wrongly
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: im just really confused here
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: wrongly.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: seriously.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: you're a disgrace to the name.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: No personal attacks please
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: woot, channel police.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: You should complain, I'm still waiting to get 'felt'
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Where are you getting 'healer' from anyway?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: i'm just randomly using a mob name, coz im standing in a clan room with a healer
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: ultimately i hope to compare the mob name in every line to a string list of cp mobs
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: So you want to change anything that's NOT the roomchars tag into a !?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Map Freak Ithilion chuckles politely.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Hah. Good luck with that.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Mobs in a cp have different key values anyway, so it's not going to help you much.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: or anything that's not the tag who is a healer into a !
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: #if (%line={healer}) {#psub {!} %x1} i thought this would change the word healer to an !
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: First of all, your #COND {} is not capturing anything to be labeled as %x1. So, no, it will not.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: oh.. coz i was reading the zmud multi state trigger help file
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: And "coz" was never the reason for the evening, or the tropic of Sir Galahad.  So please, no street slang tease.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: they used a blank line as a pattern for a loopline trigger to check each line 
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Yes, but a #COND is just like a trigger, it just happens to be the state of a trigger.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Meaning you can have #TRIGGER {Tech: I'm a stupid idiot.} {};#COND {(%w) Tech: Yes, you are.} {tech Please don't insult me, %1! It's not nice!} and it'll loop through lines until the #COND is met.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Did I scare you off?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: hmm ok i get wat u mean.. so maybe a better #COND would be to detect the word healer, which on completion would lead to the next #COND that gags the {/roomchar}
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: it's spelled "What", and ellipses are 3 periods ...
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: thx for the heads up
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: that's "thanks". And, no problem.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Actually, no. If you're REALLY wanting to do what you want to do, your best bet is to store all the trigger lines into a database, then create a trigger to search for the database keys, then return the output for you. There's absolutely no need for the roomchars script that you're trying to create. Roomchars is mostly convenient for adding mobs to a mapper.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Oh please, you missed the chance to criticise the use of 'u'.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: I can't believe I'm actually serving as the tutor of Einstein.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Let me know if anything I said was too complicated for you.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: because CP mobs don't have the tag next to the mob name like a quest mob.. so i was trying to make it have a tag
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: is there a better way of doing that
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: like "convenient"
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: If you're wanting it for just cp mobs, there is a much better way to do it.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: and I mean a MUCH better way.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: care to share?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: how are you going to determine the cp mob from room name? they can be completely different or are you using it with scan?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Sorry, Einstein. Your tutoring session is over. If you would like to continue, I require the fee of 10tps per line of code I provide.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: read help "hunt trick"
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: when u start a cp u are given a list of mobs.. so i want to match the list of mob names to the mobs in a room 
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Felt is beating Einstein to death with a dictionary, he must be using 'u' instead of 'you' again.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Oo. Einstein is getting the idea now!
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: haha charneus ok thx for the help so far anyway.. i can't afford ur tutoring anymoer
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: ...
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: dus this .. annoy u Felt?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hmm. You could swear Remind Hargreaves has been here just a second ago. You wonder where he went ...
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I bet that annoyed you having to type it, Hargreaves. I know it does me.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: I admit it: I feel the need to shower.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I do whenever I try to type like that.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Map Freak Ithilion snickers softly.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Felt convulses as he shudders in disgust.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: I'm sorry, I just had a little regurgitation of stomach acid, don't mind me.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: omgz1!!!11!1 wat did u sai!? did u jes insult moi?111!! how der u?!
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: u stePPIin o me boi1?!
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Ah that's another pet hate: Why must you tyPe likE a REtaRd?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: yes i am! u tink u r so l33t wid ur talk n stuf! stfu!
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: And you know, if you put a little thought into it, you could very well make a list to compare mobs to a cp list. *sigh*
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Is there anything that stops eyebrow hair from growing really long?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: A lighter.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Yes, avoid the full moon
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Is there anything that stops eyebrow hair from growing really long that doesn't cause a bad smell and leave little nubbies on your face?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Razor blades.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: a knife.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Scissors.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: hot wax
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Tweezers.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: if it's just one or two long hairs, just stop being a wuss and use tweezers
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: HOT WAX!
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: ..Felt stole my answer. :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Don't worry. He does that.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: I want to open a hot wax store and do all the bikini lines!
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Ow! OMG!1!1! i haf 2 pluk my hair!
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Sorry to be clearer, use tweezers to pluck the eyebrows, not for any genital manipulation
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: That way I can perform a necessary service AND satisfy my need to inflict pain on lovely nubile young girls!
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Come to SPANK'S Parlor of Pain for your hot wax experience!
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so what's better, an intel t2080 or a t2310?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: What's a good free database program suitable for cataloging my levelling equipment?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Officer Starling peers around herself intently.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: does not cmud supply that ?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: zmud, too.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: although, zmud supplies access db, and cmud beta supplies sql db
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: and both can use external dbs, anyway
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: Lotsa options there, really. *shrug*
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: My god, are you actually giving Starling help!? What's wrong with you people!?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Map Freak Ithilion smirks at Alt. Helpa Charneus's saying.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: YOU have Starling friended. :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Shh!
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: She doesn't know that!
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Map Freak Ithilion snickers with Alt. Helpa Charneus about their shared secret.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: starling needs counselling more than help :)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: Heh, if you're surprised he has me friended, you won't believe it when you see what's coming next
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus giggles.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: I'm still using zmud 5.55 ;)  But I recently acquired a cracked 7.2something which I have yet to install.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: why do you need a cracked 7.2something? just upgrade your 5.55 to the kosher 7.21
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: since zmud 7.21 is no longer supported, zmud is developing cracks ? 
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: It's a pirated 5.55.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: Xyliz, you're smoking crack.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: that's a bit naughthy
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we don't discuss illegal activities on public channels, thanks Starling :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: and you call yourself the channel police?!? geez. :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: the police are above the law
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: Lies.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: You mean I can't ask for programming tips and/or how to program my graphing calculator to fly a guided missile into the white house? :(
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: You could, I wouldn't answer, though.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: you are now probably flagged
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Honestly, Abelinc waits for the black helecopters
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: I doubt it
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: Starling is, I'm not. I hope. *peer*
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: The whole MUD is probably flagged as harboring terrorists
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what besides a list of MSCE graduates and trainees  is required to narrow down the list of those likely to write microsoft-software viruses
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: a list of linux fanboys?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: to write virii obviously requires training
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: but msce graduates only know how to push and click a mouse
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: heh
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Would the list of mcse graduates be those you argue couldn't have done it?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but how'd you know that my masters was in epidemiology?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: btw, what does 'virii' mean? 
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: in skin ?  do you make lampshades
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: plural of virus
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: there is no plural of virus
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: there is
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: well there is - it's virus
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: virus, virii, viruses :P there are* ;) sorry.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: hrm .. epidemiology is not epidermiology
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but it is what someone with MSCE is trained for
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It took a real Einstein to figure that one out...
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: epidemic and epidermic are so similar looking
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Learn to read and it won't be a problem.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: "red" and "read" are similiar looking, but I don't go around confusing those.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MSCE and MCSE are similarly similar-looking ;-)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus snickers with you about your shared secret. 
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: minesweeper consultant and solitaire expert?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: that fit you, Majic? :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: uhhhhh wanna know my minesweeper records? ;)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: MSCE is MineSweeper Consultant Expert
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what is MCSE
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You obviously can't read.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: xyliz, what is an msce?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: Xyliz is everything that's wrong with modern AI development :(
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Majic Tech: minesweeper consultant and solitaire expert?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Masters of Science in Clinical Epidemiology
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: He shows that we have much farther to go before Commander Data can become a reality :(
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: googling msce tells me it's a master's in epidemiology
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dispel Majic cackles gleefully at you.  Better keep your distance from her. 
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: rofl at the disambiguation page on wikipedia
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: they list master of science in clinical epidemiology, civil engineering, communications engineering, and a misspelling of mcse :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: and a misspelling of msce ?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: cqc
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: sorry
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: xyliz, what do you think msce is?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: darn, so many modern acronyms
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: msce does suggest  MicroSoft Consultant Expert 
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: it's actually MS conman expert
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: MCSE suggests  MicroSoft Consultant Systems Expert 
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: or MicroSoft Cons Everyone. :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus suggests 'STFU'
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: there, alternative spelling of MSCE!
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: and yes, I'm going back to the previous topic on purpose. :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: MCSE: MedoicreSloth Conman Stupid Expert 
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: linux people on the other hand, don't have qualifications
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: mostly just smelly pastey geeks that live in their mom's basement
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: looking like a geek is qualification enough ?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: they rely on skills and experience rather than fancy toilet paper
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: when i need a shit, i'd rather rely on fancy toilet paper than experience
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: This is a nocurse channel, Tigernuts.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it is? why is everyone else cursing then?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Microsoft is not a curse word.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: oh
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus looks around and whistles innocently.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: repeated use of 'mcse' is not cursing
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Map Freak Ithilion snickers softly.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: I liked charn's explanation better. :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: linux is an offensive word
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus chuckles politely.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: i can understand tnuts animosity towards linux since it's an ever increasing threat to his livelihood 
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well it isn't, tbh
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not exactly much call for it
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: people fear what they don't understand :)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if that were true, people wouldn't buy computers in the first place
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: remember the luddites?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not personally
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Linux requires to be pacified er Dosified to be more user friendly
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: degeeked
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: stick 2 completely clueless persons in front of a windows machine and a linux machine they'll both be just as clueless
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Luddites - bands of mechanics (inspired by Captain Ludd or King Lud), that organised riots for the destruction of machinery 
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: lies. any idiot can run a windows machine
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: you mean only idiots run windows machines?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: no no, thats a half truth
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Winnies (? .. requires a more catchy name) --  bands of Windows users (inspired by the blue screen of death), that organise riots for the destruction of Microsoft
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: when burning a .avi file for use on a dvd what is the best burning program to use
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: I've got a excel column containing dates in two different formats..and I need to convert all the dates to one single format..I'll be needing to export this data into access so simply changing the format of the cells isn't going to be enough, I need to modify the values of the cells to similar data formats as well..is there a formula or something that can do this?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Anyone have any idea how to update my BIOS on my Gateway laptop? I can't even find the BIOS update section on the Gateway website.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: I'd flash it.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: I think Gateway declared bankruptcy and they're on their way out :p
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if gateway don't have one, then there probably isn't one
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what model is it?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: P-7805u
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: or serial number
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Hmm... Hangon.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: sorry, need the serial number :-)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: http://www.volanteonline.com/news/health_students_lose_money%252C_laptop_warranty-1.1594880
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what mistakes did Gateway do that finally resulted in bankruptcy
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: Which ones?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: uh, they didn't sell enough? :p HP and Dell ate their market share
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: yeah, do a postmortem on Gateway
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: The quality of their product took a tumble a few years ago
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: doesn't surprise me - no money in laptop retailing any more
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: LXW430X013850B20932200 I think... God forbid I made a typo there.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: yeah, shoddy quality reputation in a competitive market where competitors offer better products at a similar price
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hehe, the support site can't take those serial numbers :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: there is no bios update available for that model
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: gateway pulled out of the UK market yonks ago
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heck, I don't even see the 7805, just 7801...uk-only?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 7800 is the series, submodels are just varying specs
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: weird that it explicitly has 7801u, 7811 & 7812j (in addition to the generic series) but not 7805u tho
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not really
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why bother upgrading the bios anyway?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Display problems... Display driver is failing, having to reboot display every once in awhile. Tried moving around drivers, BIOS is the next step for me. Then I worry it's hardware.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Probably wouldn't hurt to back into XP, even though it's not 64-bit. Might help.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: tried memory tests?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Memory tests? On what, the card?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if it's a laptop, test all the memory, nogs
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: The laptop is new, 4GB. The problem is clearly display, not memory, as I see graphic artifacts from time to time.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: 4GB RAM rather.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: unless you have a dedicated graphics module, it'll be using system memory for the graphics, so could quitely clearly be memory
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: It's a dedicated graphics module. Nvidia 7800M with 1GB Video RAM. Or maybe it was 512MB, not sure.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and if it was a dedicated graphics chipset, it could easily be the graphics memory
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Alright, I can do a test. How do I go about that?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: I'm signing off a minute but you can keep writing, I'll log back in in a minute and tech -h.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: probably find some testing software online
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: hmmm, errorzilla firefox addons is sweet
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: anyone know how to turn off autocorrection of formulas in excel 2007 ?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: like the one that finds circular references?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: not under tools>options>error checking?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: I dunno, I'll dig around a bit
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: the sad part is there's no option in the erro box that says " I wrote my damn equation the way I want it, leave me the hell alone"
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: it's only help and ok, and both STILL try to correct it for me like I'm a retard
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: that's user friendly software
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: but if it doesn't accept it, it wouldn't work?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: screw it I don't have the patience to search for the unretardify options. I'll just append a space to the front
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: PaperTiger Panzer shrugs helplessly.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: pivot tables ftw
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kirua waits as excel decides to help you correct the additional space...
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: you would think the 'ok' option means I know its wrong, leave it as. you would be wrong
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: as [is]
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: is OS X 64bit?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: nvm i googled it
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Canter Tech: mmm just wanna see a better explaination, whats the best statement to say for the diff between www and http?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Blackdragon Tech: anyone know why, when someone pages me, it doesnt go beep for me, volumes up btw.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: client?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Blackdragon Tech: aards mush client
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Are sounds enabled in your client, and is a default path for sounds (or a path to the sound) set up for beep?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Blackdragon Tech: where would i find that?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Configure -> Sounds, I'd imagine.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Blackdragon Tech: lots of stuff, but nothing that says sound
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Blackdragon Tech: nope, still not working....
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Do you have a trigger to send a sound when someone pages you?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Blackdragon Tech: nope, nothing on.
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: See, I've never known page to just automatically create sounds for you. :P
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Blackdragon Tech: How would i set something like that up?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: create a trigger, * tells you *
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, page sends termbell, so it has always automatically made a sound
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game -> configure -> output...the very top checkbox is enable sounds for term bell
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err enable beeps
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Interesting about termbell. I can never get it to work. :\
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Blackdragon Tech: spouse ok, page me now
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Blackdragon Tech: miss
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Blackdragon Tech: i see the options list, but nothings going on, i clicked the box thing...
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just below the checkbox, it says "beep sound:"...
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just below the browse & test buttons, is there a path to a sound file?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Blackdragon Tech: it says spacings font, sound too play on new activity
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, this would be all within that sounds "box"
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: click the browse button and set it to something like C:\WINDOWS\Media\ding.wav
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You're on the Configure-Output page? VERY first box says 'Sound to play when receiving a "bell" character"
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that folder is where the standard windows beep sounds are kept
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Blackdragon Tech: yip
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Blackdragon Tech: bah, i set the first browse thing too windows ding, but nothings working... i must be missing something
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Blackdragon Tech: how do i make it 'ding' when someone pages me?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: after you set it to the windows ding, does clicking the "Test" button do anything?
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Blackdragon Tech: yeah, it dings
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jiraiya Tech: #BEEP
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, and you can page yourself to test pages, don't need your spouse to do it ;-(
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err ;-)
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Blackdragon Tech: nope, still not dinging on my side
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Blackdragon Tech: bah, it still isnt working....hmm...
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, OK, that's interesting...it looks like Lasher changed page to no longer send the termbell with pages...dunno why
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Blackdragon Tech: weird....
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the text still says that it's beeping you, but it doesn't automatically do so
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i still get dinged
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, nopage/allowbeep toggle receiving pages themselves, but don't toggle the sound, maybe there's another character toggle for it
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I know some people used page self to announce things to themselves, so it ftalk *snicker oladon
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oops
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I mean so it seems like there's got to be a config somewhere, but it isn't in config all that I can see
T1/r5/2009-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Blackdragon Tech: hmm....
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: I need some help! I've been asked to note the cantilever length of a bracket that was installed in my home, and also the length of the bracket, but are they not the same thing?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nicah Tech: can anyone help me with a trigger for Zmud?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: can try :) whats up
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nicah Tech: It's been a while since I was here, or did any coding, but I remember I used to be able to do a "a|A" thing, to catch both in one trigger... any idea what I was doing?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: #trigger {blah looks {west|east}} , would capture both blah looks west or blah looks east
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: mean that?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nicah Tech: Thanks Linoge
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: zmud (using zmud's pattern matching) defaults to caseless matching
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: so you don't really need the {a|A} thing
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: You know how laptop chargers tend to get too hot? Perfect for heating freezing feet on a cold night.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: if you cover it with your feet it will overheat explode and blow your feet off
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Then they won't be cold anymore. :P
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: And wouldn't it not explode? Since I'm technically pulling heat from it with my cold feet? XD
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: whatever they will be you won't feel them :P
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velo Tech: can anyone tell me how to make my text wrap in my chat window with the mush client plugin?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velo Tech: want to make the window smaller but when I do I miss a lot of the text because it doesn't wrap until it is past the edge of the windoe
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: click on the chat window then Game->configure->output
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: make sure the option "wrap window at column" is not checked
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: and then make sure the "auto wrap to window-size" option is checked
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velo Tech: ok lets see if that worked, sorry for the long line of text just need it to test
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velo Tech: that didn't work for me
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velo Tech: wrap window at collumn is under output buffer size?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yeap
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: and you had the chats window as the active window?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velo Tech: yep, and I just went back in to confirm, the setting are what you said
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you may have to restart mushclient
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velo Tech: ahh ok
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: is anyone unable to access hotmail.com
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: Big tragedy
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Denglish Tech: Does anybody set up multiple line matches for their MUSHclient triggers? I can't get mine to work.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: what would be the best way to store music files for a website? is it possible to store them in mysql and run them from there?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenar Tech: better yet, don't play music on your stinking website!
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: use midi's
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: hamsterdance.com
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Use winamp to play your songs from anywhere... :P
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cult of Rok Tech: Wouldn't it be easier to float a banner over your house saying 'please attack me'?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cult of Rok Tech: To the RIAA?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: its my friends music and his website
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: The songs remain on your computer (just keep it running) and you can share your playlists without violating terms. ;)
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: Nobody wants to hear music when they go to a website.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cult of Rok Tech: Oh, in that case screw em.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Denarius Tech: Music on website = damn annoying.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenar Tech: punch your friend for me please, I hate music on websites
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: chuck the files in a folder and link to them... easy
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: And if they do, they'll prefer to click a link and listen, not have it blasted out of the speakers at max volume, without warning
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: not to autoplay or anything like if they wana hear it he is trying to make it as a rapper so im trying to make a few bucks from him :P
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: Just save the files as mp3 and link to them.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: ohh, that's different. punch him for being a rapper instead, kkthx
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Denarius Tech: then host offsite and link.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: Or have your friend put them on YouTube with all the other crappy home-made music.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: nod why not have links to youtube?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: now i can finish breakfast and video
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: oops
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: lol thanks all now im going to bed
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: here is an example of how to put songs on a web site http://audiozen.us/mp3/j/John%20Butler%20Trio/
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cult of Rok Tech: or basically any myspace page. :-P
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: is hiding crappy commercial music amidst crappy homemade music  legally safe
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: nien
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: du hast meish
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: English only on public channels, please.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: nien
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir turns his head over to Alt. Helpa Charneus and performs an IRW!
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: is the word "smurf" still a safe word ?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Uh, yes, Damacius, unless you want to continue to be in violation of Aard policy. ;)
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: you smurfin believe it is
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cult of Rok Tech: Only in some S&M clubs.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: are you an IMM or something?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: he's an or something
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: A Helper. ;)
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Regardless, follow rules so you don't get in trouble, k?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: so i could say i smurfed all over my girlfriends face after pounding her in the smurf ?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tenlorn shakes his head at Kitaro.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus pats Damacius on his head.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: this isn't the right channel for that anyways
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: well ive been discriminated against
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: take it to curse to really go buckwild
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: No, you haven't.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: there is no spanish channel
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: There's ftalk?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: There's also echo.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Impotent Inicus snickers with Alt. Helpa Charneus about their shared secret.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cult of Rok Tech: I think I need fyell.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: yeah but echo doesnt rise to bait  =)
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: is "smurf" the euphemism for "book ache" in that recent graphic depiction of activity with an imaginary girlfriend(s)
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: damacius, shelp qfw
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: it was a joke smurfhead
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Damacius: Don't into comedy, then.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: Aww, Charn, did you just accidenty your action verb?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: ur violating terms by gossiping on tech, please cease and desist
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: Charneus sucks at English.  Go home to Kazakhstan, Charn.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Felt pats Damacius on his head.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Shh!
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Fine. I'll make it useful for tech. Computers! Damacius, please be quiet now. RAM! WINDOWS SUCK!
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: erm... smurf vista....
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: I usually do one at level 1 and that's it.  Go me!
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: Mischannel!
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: q r
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: fail
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: how do i get it so that when i type something it wont show what i type. like if i type clan hey. it will tell me i typed it then it will send it in clan talk.(mush)
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: look for a setting called local echo
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: actually now that i think about it, that's a totally different feature
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: type alt + 0 and you should see the local echo check box
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: lets see if its fixed now
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: ok it is. ty
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: hmm, why would you upgrade ram on a linux box and then use the extra ram added for swap storage instead of general system ram ?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: use ur ram for storage? is it one of those damnfangled solid-state?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: http://kerneltrap.org/node/3660
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: on zmud, my main mud window is floating not docked, how do i make it dock to the main area?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Unlock layout, drag and drop.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: Tractor beam on; after contact, secure docking clamps.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: it still wont drop onto, is there some dockable flag or something?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Right click on the menu bar and see if dockable shows up.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: the menu bar is dockable says dockable
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Do you have layout unlocked?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: layout is unlocked
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: thanks for the zmud help, turning on the quick tiling helped
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Ah, forgot about that option.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: on zmud my dockable flag is off and greyed out, how do allow it to dock?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: note to self, shut down zmud before adjusting clock for DST
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: whats up with this autocampain mob window? i removed the plugin but the window still pops up and it sux
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: it's prob still loaded in memory
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: restart
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: how do i get rid of it? i did
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: how did you remove it ?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i uninstalled the plugin
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: how did you unintall it
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: from the plugins list on mush
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: so file->plugins->remove
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: yes
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: then you quit mush and reloaded and it still comes up ?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: yes
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: check the plugin list again and see if it's there
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: let me try to quit again brb
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: most likely you removed the plugin but didnt save your world file afterwards
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: its not popping up yet but it usually does after i kill one
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: check the plugin list again and see if it's there
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: now all my plugins are gone. i had all the installed ones that come with mush but they arent there now
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: sounds like you have a corrupted world file
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It's virus infected *inno*
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: from what? i havent downloaded anything at all
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: export all your triggers and macros and such and reinstall mushclient
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: Charneus was joking
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: im tech tarded dude
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: all my triggers are still here but not my plugins
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: nvm they are there now
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: if you dont export them before you re-install they will all be gone for good
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: so is the plugin in the list ?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: yeah it was when i reloaded
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: ok you need to remove it again
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i did
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: then you need to save your world file
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: ok i did
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: quit restart, check plugin list
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: ok its gone
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: yay
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: sigh i hate regex... i need a voice to regex converter
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You already have one.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It's called your fingers to your keyboard.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: the lump of meat between my ears needs an upgrade
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: What are the chances of me completely breaking this laptop, if I try to reformat
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Impotent Inicus's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: not much
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: you might mess it up enough you need someone who knows what they're doing to fix it
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Impotent Inicus sits down and thinks deeply. 
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Well, someone downloaded a dumb program like limewire.. and now the computer is running really slow.. I'd like to just reformat it but I'm not sure yet
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: spybot search & destroy; lavasoft ad-aware; avg anti-virus
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: just look up a guide to reformatting before you attempt it
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: I've used spybot and avg, it hasn't fixed anything
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: its really not that hard
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Impotent Inicus nods at Global Menace.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: avg sucks tho
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Canter Tech: i thought avg is good
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: yeah, it kinda does.  haven't found a better free one tho
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: are you using the actual windows disc or the restore discs?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Canter Tech: symantec kinda good tho
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: symantec sucks imo
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: I'm not willing to pay for a good virus scan for someone elses computer
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Well, we have the actual windows disc
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: the restore discs are easier, you might need some 3rd party drivers to reformat with the disc
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: depending on the system setup
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: I can look through our boxes to see if we have restore discs, should it have come with the laptop?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: probably, sometimes they dont include them.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Impotent Inicus nods.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: if you go to reformat and the HD desnt show up you need 3rd party drivers
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Impotent Inicus goes, "OK".
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Well thanks for answering my questions.. I'll search a bit about reformatting.. and I'll search for the reformat discs =P
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: becausethecaloriesfromthischeeseburgerneedtostayinmybody
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Impotent Inicus sighs.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: isawitthanksinicus
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: okayjustmakingsure
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: ilikespaces?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestine StormChaser Tech: wow a cross channel convo
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: YA!  every so often, the mfc cooperates
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taemyr Tech: in MUSHclient, how do I force the world file to save?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ologn Tech: click on it and ctrl + s?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Click file and then save world details
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: press the button that looks like a floppy disk
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: The answer may depend on whether you're using vista and if you're running as administrator?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taemyr Tech: lol.  OK, how do I do it in script?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: how do i force "chats echo off" setting to save so i don't have to retype it everytime i relog?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taemyr Tech: and I am on XP.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Are you using the Aardwolf MUSHclient Taemyr?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taemyr Tech: yes.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: It already comes with a plugin that saves the world file every few minutes
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: as non-admin   file->save world details as 
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: and choose a spot
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taemyr Tech: It hadn't saved changes to variables that I made yesterday, despite staying online for a few hours.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: C:\Documents and Settings\kitaro\My Documents\My Games       works for me
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Taemyr, is the plugin enabled?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taemyr Tech: good question, but yes it looks like it is.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taemyr Tech: Are variables saved in the world file?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: No idea
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: open the world file in a text editor ans see for yourself, it's just xml
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: Anyone know how to disable the colorcoded copy/paste thing for zmud?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: can anyone help me fix aardmush so that i don't have to enter "chats echo off" each time i relog onto aard?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: any unix person familiar with diff / patch take a look at this tell me why it's asking for the file ?   http://tinypaste.com/66f83
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atheistic Tech: whats a good client for macs... im using savitar
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bloody packard bell and their broken website
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm right in saying that macbooks these days use standard 2.5" sata hdd's?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypherior Tech: I need help turning off the stuff before what I type on a channel, i.e. {chan ch=clantalk}You tell the CLAN: 'Heya!'
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: tag channels off
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: is it possible instead of your computer loading a screen saver when idle to set it up to run a different program?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humpton Tech: like seti at home, sure...
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: i'm sure of it.... setiome did such
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: argh. yeah... seti(at)home
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: how do you do it? I've been trying and can't figure it out
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humpton Tech: sorry, way over my head
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: lol. is that the name of the program?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humpton Tech: there's actually a lot of the seti model things out there for variuos research projects
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: that's a program written by a project to multitask screening saved signals from space for intelligent patterns in the cosmos
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: it ran as a screensaver, but processed raw information
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: and if you aint much to aliens, there is one to calculate molecules to cure cancer
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: wow. that's cool. :)
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i just want it to run a single .exe file when the comp goes idle... lol
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: research screensaver design for windows
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: i'm sure there's tutorials on it online somewhere
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: every screensaver tutorial out there is for a slideshow...
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: how about alternative route, instead of screensaver just detect when computer is idle and have script run that exe for you
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: may be easier to find from google :)
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: that would work. lol
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: ofcourse it would work. problem is that screensaver is too easy solution to think of :D
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: lol. other than the fact i haven't written anything other than html in years, yeah.. i figured they had one pre-build i could use
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: there is tons of tutorials to detect idle time since some might have wanted to keep session going instead of it autologout back in the day :)
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: especially while mudding in school/work
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: http://www.wischik.com/scr/howtoscr.html
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: screen saver creation info
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: not recommended to make a screen saver on your own if you're not comfortable working with programming langauges
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: that's what i'm thinking.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: that you are, or are not, comfortable with programming?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: not comfortable. the only language i know is basic, and it's been years
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: ah.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: never hurts to learn something new :P as long as you have patience
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: yeah but i like instant results right now. lol. in time i'll learn more
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: is there a way to take something from a container using more that one word?  I want to take an aura of the sage from a bag, but if i type take aura of the sage bag it won't work.  I also tried take 'aura of the sage' bag, but that didn't work either
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: get 'aura sage' bag will work.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: get 'aura sage' bag
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: "the" and "of" probably aren't keywords
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: ok thanks
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the runto commands skip over the 'of' and 'the' but not the get take put commands
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: how do i create a string variable in a plugin and then call that variable later?  For an alias?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: in zmud you use to dereference a variable
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: in zmud you use to dereference a variable
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: using mushclient
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: at symbol i mean
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: mushclient has quite good documentation in the website through forum, problem is it doesnt have any simple examples how to make simple things :)
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: i agree... :(
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: anyone use mushclient?  How can i create a variable and then call that variable for a plugin.  Trying to create a plugin to store an alias to enter portals
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: is there a "lua editor" that can be downloaded? or just use something like "notepad++"?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: The lua site should have something to help you with that, I believe.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Interesting. Never knew this... \d+\s+\d+\s+.*(\d+) of (\d+) will not put 98 as group 1, and instead, populates it with 8... only because I didn't specify there would be spaces before the digit grouping. *boggle*
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: is there a way to highlight columns in notepad rather than rows?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: notepad has features ?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: in mush how do i send a blank line as a timer? it says i cant without a script subroutine
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: just send p
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: p   is the shortest command you can do
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i had it send a ever so often but then it got annoying during battles
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: i do p every 5mins, it's no bother
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: can i make it so that it wont send the timer if im actually doing stuff not idleing?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: probably, but not easily
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: if it's every 20 minutes - you won't idle out and it's hardly going to be that disturbing
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: well i dont want to afk out. i want my spellup to keep going so that it doesnt take me 2 ticks to spellup when i get back
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Go and work out what you're doing before you start claiming it's broken?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: Oh, that's easy to set up.  Even I can do that.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: and keeping your spellup going is entirely different a request
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i have the spellup plugin so i will stay spelled up thats not the issue. i just want to not go afk so that it will continue working
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Does the spellup plugin recast a spell when the affect runs out?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: yes
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: will that alone be enough to keep me from afk out>
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: So how is it you idle out then?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: I would have thought so
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: im headed to bed im just trying to figure this out before i go to sleep and end up afk ing out
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: ok one last question. is there a way to let people know your afk without actually being afk?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: type afk?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i said without being afk
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: set up a trigger for tells
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: Or just put it in your title that you're AFK botting spell %'s
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: It's what I do
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: well when i log in i have an automessage that says i might be and to send all messages in tell form just in case but i want my friend to know even if they sign in after without spamming every one else
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: Personally, I have to say I don't trust Hellfiend's ability to make a tell-trigger that wouldn't fire off of emote or channel input, allowing people to spam anybody in the game via his shoddy trigger-work.  I'm just looking out for you here.  Just put it in your title.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: but again thats only to people who see me. i want it to let people know when they sign in
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: (Charneus tells you 'Sorry, Hellfiend! I'm away right now. Reason: <(=Gone to bed.=)> I've been away for: 02:48:51')<------- how would i make it do that
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: What client?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: with mad coding skills
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: idk its not mine
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: Nah, not mad coding skills.  I could write that, easily.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: it's a very helpful message if anyone wanted to raid watchmen!
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khryss Tech: 0_o
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i would really enjoy a message like that but i dont know how to write it
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: start reading books is my advice
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: where shou
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: where should i start?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: well it's quite simple really
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: then explain away?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: you need to trigger off receiving a tell, if you can do that, it's cake from then on
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i can do that but how would i make the variable such as the name?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: just juse the tell tag?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: #trigger (*) tells you* {tell %1 I AM AFK}
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: then think about what other protection you might need to avoid abuse... anchoring the trigger, cooldowns, etc.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: anyway its against the rules to abuse someone's triggers so if any one is messing with yours just report them
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: dude im stupid i got lost after the tags. and im proud i knew how to do THAT
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: that's no excuse for lazy coding, einstein
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Should we mention he's on mushclient for helping him with triggers?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: o yes. hey guys im on mush lol
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: someone send me a tell really quick so i can see the tags
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: y arent my tells tags showing up> i have tags turned on and tells tags on?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: a script written for cmud wouldn't be backwards compatible to zmud 7.21, correct?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Not necessarily.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I've written scripts that are able to be used in zMUD.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: But most scripts won't be.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: hmm.  any idea if Davos' Tracker script would be?  haha. probably not cause it's relatively extensive.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It won't be.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You're talking about the one hosted on my site, right?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: whats your sight?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: ohh yes
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: aardcharn
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: My sight is 20/20. My site is aardcharn.com. ;)
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Yeah, that one isn't backwards compatible, however, you can take it apart and make it work for zMUD.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: any idea of some tracker scripts written for zmud?  I've been having a lot of problems with the one Ninja wrote.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: not really up for programming lately.  so burned out from school hah
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Finger Atreidess.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: GdAnGuS has a few good ones, too. Might check his site.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: ok tnx :)
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zakuro Tech: anyone knows where i can still download the free older version of zMud?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: yeah that real old one is still on zuggsoft.com, has problems on newer OS though
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zakuro Tech: bummer, well thanks
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: found 4.62... ftp://ftp.csie.nctu.edu.tw/pub/Windows/Mud/zmud32.zip
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zakuro Tech: does it work for windows xp?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: Yes.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: FYI, I think it is shareware, not freeware.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: 3.something was freeware
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: Actually, 32 bit version of zmud 3.62 (freeware) is here ftp://ftp.vernet.lv/pub/windows/games/zmud32f.zip
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: Same version as the one on zugg but they host the 16 bit version because they don't want you to find the free version that works on XP.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zakuro Tech: will i still be able to use it after evaluation though...
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: 32 bit zmud v4.62 is superior to the 16 bit v4.62  -- less crashes
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: v3 is completely free, but i don't think it has mapper and few other things
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: v4 is possibly eval, never used it but heard it never stops working. v3 is free and question is n/a for it.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: v4.62 was the standard almost-free zmud for cheapo mud-players -- but these days v7.21 is far far superior to v4.62
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: v3.62 is like driving a go-kart 
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cult of Rok Tech: No it isn't. Go-Karts are fun.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: v4.62 is like driving a lada
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: If I didn't have zmud 7 already, I'd check out the Aardwolf configured mush before old zmud.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: some of those other (wannabe) mudclients are far worse than zmud 4.62
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zakuro Tech: so what mudclients are u guys using?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zakuro Tech: i like aard mushclient, because it has separate windows...
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zakuro Tech: but i play other muds too, so i dunno jack about configuring :X
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: when you've use a later version of zmud, you usually do not want to go back to an earlier version
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: btw, some websites that advertise the 32bit v4.62 zmud are supplying only the 16bit version of v4.62 (they mistakedly believe that a 16bit zmud that runs in a 32bit windows is a 32bit zmud)
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omg! Its Zypherior Tech: anyone have mushclient?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no, everybody uses something else
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sillyname Tech: i forgot the name of my lvl 80 mage is there a way i can figure out what it is?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zakuro Tech: anyone knows any sites with cool mud soundpacks? like from Final Fantasy or something...
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zakuro Tech: what's the syntax for a carriage return?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neuse Tech: best font for MUSHclient?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: consolas is recommended
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nicah Tech: windings!
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zakuro Tech: how do u change fonts again for mushclient?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: alt+5 i think it was
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: alt+f4
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neuse Tech: game -> config -> output
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Denglish Tech: is there a way to create another window for the MUSHclient?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impotent Inicus Tech: I need to clear my pending list for printed stuff, and I ran MSC something last time but don't remember what it was.. anyone know?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: how do you reference a variable (zmud) that has more then one value.  whats the syntax on that?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: like a stringlist?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: I need to layout network wiring diagrams for a couple buildings. does anyone know if visio has templates that would support that or what prog profesionals would use ?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, you can do it straight in visio
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: any suggestions or just open it up and start playing with til I find what I need ?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, right when you open it, it lists templates...network is one of the main ones listed...
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: yeah, thats not exactly what I need but I'll just play with it. thanks
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on what type of network mapping you're looking for...you may pretty much just be looking at floor plans template, labelling for MDFs
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: MDF ?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: IDF/MDF, places in the building for interconnects
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: how can i make it so a program loads as soon as i log in? such as mushclient for example. (vista if its nedded)
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Add it to your startup.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: how
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: put a shortcut in your startup folder in your start menu
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: there's a startup folder on the start menu
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: put a shortcut into your startup folder
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: msconfig or regedit works too
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=vista+automatic+program+startup
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus snickers with Seltsimees Dagnir about their shared secret.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: recommended not to use regedit though for a newbie
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Map Freak Ithilion rolls on the floor laughing at Seltsimees Dagnir's antics!
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: where can i locate the startup folder
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: check the link i gave you
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: start menu
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: and msconfig doesnt allow you to add entries, iirc, hm, then again I never really twinked around with it :P
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: Uninstall windows
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Map Freak Ithilion sighs at the sight of Officer Starling.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: so cruel :P
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i got that much abe but im not seeing it
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: winkey -> programs -> startup
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: all programs* -> startup
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: thank you
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zakuro Tech: how do i make Aard MUSHclient to play me a sound if a partial text is displayed? eg. "is auctioning"
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: is it bad to leave a laptop on and plugged in to external power for long periods?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zakuro Tech: that's what i did, but... i dunno. does it? :S
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i close the lip and everything but its still active im just wondering if im screwing crap up
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Of course you are.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: ok let me rephrase. am i screwing up the laptop if i do that
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Try it and find out tomorrow.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: weel its been on since yesterday. now josh quit screwing with me and answer directly or dont answer at all
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: well*
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Sure, Colby. :)
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: sure what?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: sure it does screw it up or sure ill quit screwing with you
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Oh, were you actually expecting an answer when you just said quit screwing around and answer directly or don't answer at all?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: nvm dude i forgot what a pain you are]=
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Truth is, it shouldn't do anything to your computer.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Laptop, whatever.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Map Freak Ithilion skips around going, "La la la..."
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: so what's up in the world of microsoft lately? :)
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: how can i remove a plugin permanently? mushclient still tries to load some plugins and it gives error messages
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zakuro Tech: is there a way to put a jpg picture as a background of the mushclient?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blacklight Tech: for mushclient what would be the trigger phrase if i wanted a triger to go off every time games says You killed (monster).   ?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: use the highlight feature, if it highlights then you have the phrase
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: highlight is a trigger
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: in zmud #trigger {is slain by} {#say this trigger is cpu intensive and able to be spoofed} {aclass}
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: easiest to use the experience line, there's lots of different texts for the final blow
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: won't always have the word slain...A tiny rat gurgles as razor sharp talons cut away his last piece of life. He is DEAD!
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all depends on what spell/skill/damtype is used to kill
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: except the experience line is doubled during double experience
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: any particular reason a wireless mouse would turn off if you don't move it for 1 second?  It works perfectly if i continue to move it nonstop, but as soon as I don't move it, it shuts down
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: usb mouse ?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: no, the receptor plugs into the mouse and keyboard slots on the back of th epc
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: to conserve battery -- perhaps there is a shutdown delay parameter
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: that was my thinking, i just can't find where it would be:P
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: control panel mouse options are just scrolling and pointer
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: is the mouse battery fresh
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: put in 2 new lithium batteries last week
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: 2 weeks is a long while -- was the mouse acting similar with fresh batteries
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: there is supposed to be a recharge craddle on the better-designed wireless mouse -- (perhaps in a parallel world if not in this world)
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: (an intelligent wireless mouse even seeks out and docks in the nearby recharge cradle when the battery charge is low)
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: anyone know how to enable mccp without switching to a client that has it natively ? iirc acidspray hat a tut on this but its long gone
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use an mccp proxy
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: hat=had
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: any suggestions on where to find ?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: see what google mccp proxy comes up with?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Habasi goes, "Heh."
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: www.aardwolf.com
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: www.lmgtfy.com/?q=mccp+proxy
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no google needed
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: thanks
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: click mud resources, click mud clients
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xelja Tech: "help mccp proxy" :P
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: my link only takes 1 click :P
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: abes takes 2!
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not true, you've gotta choose a result :P
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: you have to choose a menu item!
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you wouldn't know if that result is a direct download
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mine is guaranteed to actually have a download
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: "Download the MCCP Proxy Client - Windows"
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: pretty good chance ... :P
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: most links pasted here should be lmgtfy
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: on windows, I'd actually recommend not using the one from those sits...finger arkanes and use that one
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: too many people out there that can't use a search engine
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immerez Tech: how do you make your #MESSAGE msg stay on for more than a millisecond... when the trigger hits it only shows up for like .04 seconds
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: Read faster
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: make another trigger that hits that trigger with same message and quits after 50 times? :D
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Anyone who can find me a fast download link of the realtek R218 Vista driver is my god
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: realtek's site being crap?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Like hell
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: you change religions too fast for comfort
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: My stupid ass USB headset isn't being recognized
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: Uninstall windows.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Owh owh, I've awoken the linux fanboys
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nicah Tech: Alt & F4 for the win,
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: Kanaye: http://rapidshare.com/files/207486642/Vista_R218.exe
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Ty
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Vista policeware belongs to which 1984 department  
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Any idea why my USB headset isn't regocnized any longer?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Logitech ClearChat Pro
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: sometimes ebay'ers go silly
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: just sold a second hand athlon xp3000 cpu for the equiv of $50
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Imbeciles have more spending power than you. Because imbeciles are the majority.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Mischan... ish.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why is Ebay's turbo lister so incredibly unreliable?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: is it something about programmers in luxemburg being entirely shit?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: it's because it's ebay
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: No cursing please
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: what? ebay?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: what? ebay?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: whoops. sorry
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: gotta get a video card for someone who plays 3d games...how much onboard ram would people suggest?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nicah Tech: 256/512
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: y do i suddenly see peoples full names such as 'Dhampir Jutduli'?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: 'nopretitle' will toggle it on/off
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: thanks
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei tells Hellfiend he's very welcome.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Avatar Aang Tech: Does anyone know if it's possible to run zmud through crossover? 
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Avatar Aang Tech: or at least run zmud as an administrator on crossover?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: what is the tags command for ftalk?(to turn it on)
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infected Inicus Tech: tags channels on?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Uh, ft? :P
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You type the channel name to turn it on...
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Infected Inicus smirks at Alt. Helpa Charneus's saying.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Oh, tags.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Meh. I missed tags.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hellfiend winks at an emergency medical technician.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hellfiend winks at Alt. Helpa Charneus.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I'm relieved now. I thought surely Hellfiend couldn't be that retarded. *inno*
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: o yes i cud
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: ...
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: how do i see the tags? they are on but how do i view them?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Turn off the plugins that gag them.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: did lemon rename?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: im not seeing that plugin?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: hehe that'd be a great tech channel question.  how do i turn on ftalk...
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It'd be the one that deals with channels.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: type ft
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: still not finding it
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: That's because you're tech-retarded, Hellfiend. It's the chat plugin. :P
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: o yeha? when i disable it it just removes my chat window
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: What, are you a cowboy now? It's spelled 'yeehaw' not 'yeha.'
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: its a typo i mean yeah
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: in mush client, what is the syntax to read something in a trigger.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: No clue. :P
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: how would i set up a trigger in mush to greet a person on ft? (friend) * has entered aardwolf. doesnt work
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: stillclan how aqi
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: wtf did i just do
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: the world will never know
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: how do i set up that trigger tho?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: enter worm here
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: what?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: im tech-tarded so can we keep it simple?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: {chan ch=ftalk}(Friend): * has entered Aardwolf....and may need to escape the {}s, not sure
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: ok i didnt understand that at all...
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when someone signs on, you really don't see (Friend): Someone has entered Aardwolf....you really see {chan ch=ftalk}(Friend): Someone has entered Aardwolf.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but MUSH's channel capture script hides the channel tags for you...not sure what fallthrough properties it uses either
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hellfiend, just tested, you don't need to escape the {}s...so if you paste exactly "{chan ch=ftalk}(Friend): * has entered Aardwolf." into the trigger pattern, it should work fine
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: ok how would i add the name of the person into the message the trigger sends?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: abelinc how wud i make the trigger instert the name into the message?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: put "ftalk Hi %1, long time no see!"
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: ok. to help enlighten the unenlightened what is %1 i know what it does now but what is it
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the %1 substitutes the value in the *
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it means the first instance of "*"...so if you had a trigger with more than 1 "wildcard" *, you'd use %1, %2, %3, etc
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: so one last question. what language are muds written in? i really want to learn to program for myself but need a starting point
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: most are written in C
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: this one is in lua
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but MUDs are actually a horrible example of programming, so self-teaching using them will teach you bad habits ;-)
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: this one embeds lua, not written in it
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: ILL EMBED YOUR LUA
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Global Menace hugs you. 
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lua isn't a programming language, it's an embedded scripting language
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: ok can u point me in the right path to learn how to program....without school. im talking books and websites
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: lua.org claims its a programming language
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lua.org misses the definition of programming language :P
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: and whats that?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: or not...
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: what language do you want to start with?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=difference+between+programming+and+scripting+languages&aq=f&oq=
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rlz=1C1GGLS_enUS291US303&defl=en&q=define:programming+language&ei=Jh2_Sb-TC8ugtgeP5bBW&sa=X&oi=glossary_definition&ct=title
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: what wud be the best to start with?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: i can paste links too
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, you just paste bad ones :P
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there isn't a "best", really
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: yeah darn looking up the definition when argueing about a definition
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: different languages have strengths and weaknesses
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: According to Wikipedia (oh no!) - "A programming language is a machine-readable artificial language designed to express computations that can be performed by a machine, particularly a computer. Programming languages can be used to create programs that specify the behavior of a machine, to express algorithms precisely, or as a mode of human communication." -- which is what lua does. :P
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: well i trust your judgment abe what do u suggest
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i refute your wikipedia response and would like to pretend to be an english teacher and claim it's not credible information
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and that's why wiki isn't a good source :P
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i refuse to read past "according to wikipedia"
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hellfiend, what is your end goal?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: R7 T9 201
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: <30k qps
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is this for hobby? for eventual career? to play with making your own MUD?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Abe: Not like the link you provided leads to any better information. Wikianswers? Yeah. First link there.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wanna play on winderz, linux/unix, etc?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: hobby at the moment possible carreer in the future
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: the university here starts people off in java for programming
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: from my very amatureish stuff... i enjoyed web page creation (html, javascript, etc) more than trying to learn C++ or C#, i never attempted java
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, colleges moved away from teaching programming concepts, and toward immersing the students in the more hip OO languages
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i would like to start with something that i can apply to the here and now such as this mud
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: how does teaching students how to program in java somehow not cover programming concepts?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then actually Lua would be a good place to start :-)
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: making local web pages could be useful as wel
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: well*
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: scars, because they don't bother with the conceptual
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: and where wud u suggest i get this info...i good choice of words to google wud be fine just so i dont spend needless time fingind info that is defunct
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a few years back, you were 6 courses in practically before your first hello world, vs day 1 in a java course today ;-)
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: it's kind of a broad sweeping statement abelinc, do you claim that no university teaches concepts anymore?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, I wouldn't dream of claiming that
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lua.org has some nice resources on the language
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: abelinc likes to make wide sweeping statements that have no base :)
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You pat Global Menace on his head.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: ok ill leave u fine folks alone...for now
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: menace is right, you know ;)
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and menace writes lots of compiled programs in lua
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: googling lua help and stuff like that should be easy enough, i think lua.org has a few walk throughs and sample code
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: so your definition comes out
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Global Menace smiles at you. 
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not my definition
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: compiled programs in lua? heh
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: isn't lua just a kinda basic scripting language?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes chuft
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i'm not a programmer... but i've always been under the impression that lua was a scripting language
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: i dont write lua ;)
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: just no you know i noticed. i really appreciate the current lack of scathing, snide comments
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: i'm not a programmer either... but people still pay me to do it!
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and yet you claim to know what it is in its basic form
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: mis
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: haha
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You snicker with him about your shared secret.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: i said simply the website called it a programming language
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: i never claimed to know its basic form
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, because the website uses a horrible layman's "definition" of programming language
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't write programs in lua, you script in lua
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocamide Tech: what definition are you using that says scripting languages aren't programming languages?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: since its such a DRASTIC world shaking difference
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes menace, it is a drastic difference, particular for someone looking to get into programming
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: its not really a big deal
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Global Menace smiles at you. 
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: discovering that you can't actually write a program is a rather significant limitation
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: "honest abe" is used in many  language texts for examples :p  along with the "Hello world" :p
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not that it's not a very fine language...just that it has uses for which it is designed
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and uses for which it is entirely ill-suited
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: like any other programming language
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it is designed from scratch to allow you to embed scriptability within programs written in "real" programming languages
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: i'd say that if all you need is a script, then a scripting language and a programming language would seem pretty much the same :)
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: best tool for the job, yup crieus
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: imo, if you're only programming/scripting/whatthehellevering to make life easier for yourself... i think that learning VB and VBA would be a good idea... at least from what i've seen, a lot of places use office, and office uses VBA for special stuff and what not...
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: but, there's plenty of reason to disagree.. and i'm sure depending on your experience/knowledge on this kind of stuff, you could even articulate it
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: id say java is better than vb
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: thats your opinion :)
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hell, I use a lot of dos batch files at work
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: of course :) menace and its a good one ,)
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i guess what i'm saying is that if you're not a "programmer" by profession, but a "programmer" by casual hobby or whatever... i think VBA and VB makes a lot of sense to learn, and i just point at MS Office using VBA as a reason
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: depends on the application
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: I'd have to agree that VBA can make Office suite a lot more flexible.  But... then I'd ask why you were using Office.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: what are you gonna use?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because office is ubiquitous
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: what would you use instead? openoffice?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i'm not sure if openoffice accepts VBA, but i'd kind of expect it to
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: OO sucks anyhow :)
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: (shrug) ubiquitous is what makes it bad.  One tool to rule them all.  You know the movie.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: okay, sure... so offer me a useful, easy to use alternative
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not one tool for everything, but it's one tool which pretty much must be in most people's toolbox
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: and by easy, i don't mean "easy for you" i mean "easy for virtually anyone"
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: Don't get me wrong, when i write a letter or need to do a checksum, Word and Excel are the place i go
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: right, and if you learn some VBA, then Word and Excel can become much more
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: but when i find myself writing sloppy function after sloppy function in VBA to make excel into a macro-driven application, it probably needed to be written in something more efficient
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: make a real program then
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: yes, menace, that is what i'm saying
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i hate to be picky here, but why are they "sloppy function after sloppy function"
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Honestly, Abelinc teaches Crieus the Unix way...one tool for one function
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: does VBA make it sloppy, or do you make it sloppy?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: honestly question, not insinuating anything here
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: honest*
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: everything has its limitations you can't expect it to do everything
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: any language that isn't strongly typed is 'sloppy'  (imho)
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You snicker softly.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: lol thats sily
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: can you try to explain what "strongly typed" means?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: if you can express every place you would store something in memory as 'Var' -- that's not strongly typed
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: do you mean it /is/ ?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: no
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: do you mean "if you can't" ?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: its only sloppy if you program sloppily :)
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: does lack of knowledge and inexperience excuse sloppy programming?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: no
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: well im screwed then lol
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: its not an excuse but itll happen at some point ;)
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: well.. you have to start somewhere, of course
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: if you keep programming youll look back later and be like.... wtf was i thinking? this sucks.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: lol... u will probably do that from day to day
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: hellfiend, if you're just looking for a starting point and have serious intent of taking this stuff to a career of some kind... then i can say that i know people who've started (and swear by) C++ and i know people who have started (and swear by) java and the ideal language to start with
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: c++ is a crappy first language
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: imo
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: the answer you get can very much vary from person to person, based on their experience, they will give you an answer
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: im doing all the reading on Lua right now since that was suggested for me
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: my suggestion is that you find something applicable to a current issue you have, and "program a solution"
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: my current issue is my spellup plugin
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: its not wrong i just dont like how it fuctiions at times
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars nods.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: I'm currently experiencing a moment of self appreciation for trying to figure the issue out myself without asking questions in a way that makes me appear stupidly ignorant, as is the norm for me
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: a little bit cliche, but here it is anyway:  Only stupid question is an unasked question
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Global Menace nods at Hellfiend.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: i disagree
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: well, honestly, you occasionally give off the vibe of someone who can't follow written instructions well... you're not the only one by any means, but i still think it's better than you ask and get an answer through all the belittling than just being helpless and lost
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: no if u have seen how i ask for information due to lack of knowledge on the subject you would realize that i indeed ask stupid questions
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: im still very much helpless and lost...
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: i particularly liked when you couldn't copy paste teh script into your client properly
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: little things start to matter after a while too... would over wud, could over cud, and so on... text is all we have here, so if you want to present yourself in an intelligent manner, it helps to type in a similar manner
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: it wasnt an issue of copying and pasteing incorrectly but of not having the right version and then a problem with the script itself.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Global Menace pats Hellfiend on his head.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: if i wanted to make something that would track my damage dealt per mob would it be similar to that trigger i asked for help with earlier?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i don't know what trigger you asked for help with before
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: itd be similar
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: well it was directed at abe since he helped with it
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: but in the body you would add to a variable
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: that sotred the damage
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: how would i make it so i would count the damage i recieve into it
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: wouldnt*
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i'd imagine you'd need to utilize some kind of math function
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i dont want it to count my damage recieved as damage dealt
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: you wont...
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I did that for CMUD. :P
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: the message when you deal damage is much different
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: well, the trigger line should contain your name
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: so it's going to matter what the "pattern" is on the trigger to prevent capturing bad information
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: I wish we could get one attack per line without all the damn spammy symbols that gives my zmud fits.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: o good point. im not technologically embued with enough knowledge to set it up correclt would be my best assumption
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: you can
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I have 1 attack per line. *blink* Spells included.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: damage 3...
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Damage 3 doesn't take care of spells, though.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: whichever one is pimpslaps
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: damage 2
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: and then you could #sub pimpslaps for your damage verb or choice
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: of choice*
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Yep, except again, spells are excluded.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: well, sure, but some of us don't mind that
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I had to write a script for that. :\
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: stop using a crappy class
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: wouldnt help me then. the majority of my damage occurs from spells
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i just wish i could condense gaias revenge
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Global Menace winks at Alt. Helpa Charneus.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus smirks at Global Menace's saying.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: charneus, could you possibly post your script to the cmud library? :P
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: switch to thief!
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: think i cud see your script charneus and try and see what im even attempting to do
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: you could sub all the damage types to something
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Hmmm, Scars.. I possibly could. It's more tailored to my liking, though. I'll look into it.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: nods, it would be very nice to combine gaia, which is the same concept as spell damage
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: is it total damage or average damage
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's a tinyfugue script that combines spell damage into 1 line on my script page ;-)
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It's total
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: [3] You dealt a total of 369 points of damage this round!  -- [4] You were dealt a total of 112 points of damage this round!
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: like [3] Your [whatever] does [blah blah] to [thing]! [Grand total] ?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: oo
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: omg, that's so incredibly boring, and simple
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: my [whatever] and the [blah blah] it does to [thing] is none of your busines, tyvm
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: not a bad thing, but you know it's true
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: That was my flaming sphere, too. :(
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Yeah. I dwell on simplicity sometimes.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I /could/ tailor it to someone else's needs, though. Hmmm.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: simplicity is sometimes the greatest in productivity
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i'm sure it wouldn't be difficult to make it read [3] Your [spell] dealt 369 damage this round!
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [2] Your shard of ice does UNBELIEVABLE things to a sleepy giant bodyguard! [849]
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: but then its not shiny hellfiend
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: shiny factors sells things
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: the damage verbs are not important to me at all, but yeah
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: only to idiots that see nothing more than the shiney
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: dude, that's me with cars
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: the general public you mean?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: if it's not kind of shiney and nice looking, i'm not interested
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: exhibit A
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: dell did a multimillion dollar study that found that if they put a LED light behind their logo their sales would increase... and guess what
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: ...they did... by a lot
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: Easy as Dell.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: appearance matters
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: i bought my laptop cause it had pretty blue leds
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: size matters too :P
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: charneus, i really like that script though... abelinc, i'll have to check to see if cmud can use tinyfuge or whatever
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: its not my fault the general public is infatuated with and duped by flashing light and eye candy
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Energy matters, but only in exotic conditions.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: if thats whats important to you
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I don't know of a scripting method to translate tf to zmud, you'd have to do it by hand
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: then youre not getting duped
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i would rather buy something that looks like trash but works fine for cheap than something all sparkly that costs me twice as much
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: charn's is probably easier to do
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i didn't say i enjoyed spending money
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars nods at you in agreement. 
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: figured as much
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: charneus - if you decide to work on making it tailored to the general public... let me know if you want any input/testing, i'd be happy to
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i definitely lack the ability to do this kind of stuff on my own
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: unfortunately, hellfiend, we run into the silly public and their expectations.  Your clients will often believe that the prettier your computer, the better programmer you must be.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, actually I just checked my page and see that I didn't put nimrodel's fight script there...I'll have to do that tomorrow
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Scars: [4] Your sphere of flame dealt a total of 705 points of damage this round!
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i'd drop "a total of" and "point of" , but yeah, that's the generic idea
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: my computers dead sexy
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Also: [3] Your pierce dealt a total of 381 points of damage this round! -- and [2] Your backstab dealt a total of 388 points of damage this round!
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: and that is why we are screwed as a species...the monkeys are gonna rule us with an iron fist
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods at Scars.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: and i still suck at programming
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: best case scenerio, you could even add the target in place of "this round" and say "to [mob]", but that's really not important
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i think im more confused now on how to write something to do that than when i first asked...
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars beams a smile at Hellfiend.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: yeah, that happens
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: and for some reason i was totally obsessed with charneus' message when you sent him a tell
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: no one talks to charneus
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Scars: [3] Your sphere of flame dealt 735 damage to [a dancer]! -- Better?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: stop killing strippers. :(
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: nods
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: perfect, imo
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: color coding done mud-side or ansi?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Ansi.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: nods, and the last thing, are the brackets easily removed, if desired?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Gagging it and replacing it with #SAY.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Yes. :)
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: figured as much :)
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: yeah, i'm happy with that
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Just a matter of going into the trigger and removing it. *shrug*
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: that'd be fantastic for gai
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: gaia
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Actually, I think I'm happier for it, too. Hmm.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Er, with it, too.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Let me strip the script of the things no one else really needs, put it into a nice little package, then I'll upload.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: awesome, i'm off to bed for the night, but i'll take a look at it tomorrow
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: much appreciated man
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: might consider posting this to general or something to let other cmud users know
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: the library installation is damn near idiot proof :P
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Make something idiot-proof, the world will make a better idiot.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: haha scars is going to install charneus' package.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: such as charneus
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i said /almost/ for a reason :P
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: oh, would you look at that, i didn't say almost
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus grins evilly.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i guess i said "damn near" for a reason
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars nods quietly to himself.  What a wacko.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: charneus, how do you detect the last damage message of the attack? i.e. The 5th damage figure of a fireball spell so that you know when to stop adding up numbers and to spit out the total damage message? And would this script be able to be reproduced in zmud?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: break on prompt?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Yorke: The patter repeats until it finds a blank line. Once it hits that blank line, then it reports out the damage.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: {chan ch=clan}CLAN: * dons their armor and enters the Legion of 1000 Newbies.<-----why doesnt that work?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: pattern*
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: put the * in ( )
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i didnt on my last one
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: zmud?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: msuh
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: sry, nvm then
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: mush*
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It could be replicated in zMUD, yeah, I suppose, but that'd be extra work for me! :P
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: charneus, you're going to love this idea..
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: i was actually trying to figure out how to do it in zmud myself, but thanks for the heads up on the blank line, didn't notice it myself before :p
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: is there any way to expand this to include groupies? :P
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods at Dwight Yorke.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Hmmm... groupies are a bit harder... would have to define the groupie list first, but it COULD be done.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: o hold on i might have it...what is the full name of the clan channel?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: my question to you is do you think it's worth doing :P
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hellfiend, those messages are INFO messages, and don't have the {chan ch=clan}
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Depends. I have groupspam off. ;)
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i don't :P
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus grins evilly.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: so it would be {chan ch=info}?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Info doesn't have tags.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i won't keep asking for "this and thats" :P  reducing the spam on my part is a heluva start
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: need to escape the curly braces
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: AFAIK.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, just CLAN: * dons their armor 
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope, don't need to escape curly braces
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods at Scars.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: That's really the reason I came up with the script myself - reducing spam, better output.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: and this script covers enemy damage as well, if i read it right... right? :P
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: ok ty
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It does, but currently, it's in the style of [5] You were dealt a total of 25 points of damage this round! -- which I could probably change, too.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i'd change it to read [#] [Mob] dealt [#] damage to you!
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: do you use damage 1 for this script?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: The problem with that is separating the mob from the attack type. I haven't put every attack type into a variable.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I use damage 0.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: oh wow
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: wouldn't damage 1 (totals melee damage for you) take care of this?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It could, for the melee part, but not the spells part. Don't know why I have it on damage 0. Guess I just never really noticed.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: nods
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Let's see if it still works with damage 1! :\
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: it's already this far, i guess i just imagine reducing teh amount of #gaging done may help improve the performance in especially spammy times
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Yep, it does.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: outputs correctly and everything, eh?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: damage 1 would not match on it,so while it'd be combined, your fight evaluator may break
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: nifty :)
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for the total damage at the end of the fight
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Not a fight evaluator though, Abelinc. Just combines damage lines for spells and melee.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars . o O ( and here i said i'd quit asking for "this and thats" ... i'm such a liar )
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I know charn...was referring to impacting beyond that one script
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Ah, yeah.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: how does this handle multiple mobs?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if they're using same captures to populate vars
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: As in area attacks?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: no, as in fighting multiple mobs, the damage taken line
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: just puts it all in one line?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since it's not a fight evaluator, it doesn't care how many MOBs
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: because the more i think about it, the more i find that easier to deal with anyway if it works like that
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Ah. The damage taken line remains the same. I might be able to revamp it though.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i guess i mean if i fight 1 or 10 mobs, it'll total the damage all into 1 line and gag the rest... if i'm still understanding this
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's really just looking at "lumped" damage lines
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods at Scars.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i think i it better that way
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: For example, fighting three mobs: [4] You were dealt a total of 79 points of damage this round!
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: huge downside is aiming i suppose, which is why i'd like each on their own line like that... but it's not hard to work around it i guess
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: sometimes it's nice to know who is attacking me in certain situations
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Especially since it can inhibit a pk situation.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: nods, very much so
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: That's the only time it would be a hinderance - someone is pking you and you don't know it.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i'll leave that up to your discretion on whether or not you want to change it, just kind of thinking outloud
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: ...as if any of this has been /my/ call anyway :P
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You've provided some great insight.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: so, end result with gaia+melee rounds is 2 lines, 1 showing total gaia damage and 1 showing melee damage, and during spell round its all 1 line... that's going to be a huge improvement
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: if i have a trigger set up to reply when i recieve a tell while catching tells is there any way to force it to stop after saying it too many times if they make an attempt to abuse my trigger..before i get nochanned?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You could set up a 'lastreply' and have it check to see if the person was the last to reply.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Er, a lastreply variable.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: also possible to set up a variable that will add a persons name to a variable list.  Then if they send u another message it will check that variable if that name is in there, it won't send them another message.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: can set it to reset every hour so if they send a message much later it'll be open to replying to them again.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: what if it isnt the same message but in a form that wud send my trigger on a loop
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Setting up the variable to check to see if the person is the last one to send you a tell prevents that.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: but im not smart enough to know how
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: So, for example. Charneus tells you 'blah'. Store Charneus into a variable (lastreply, if you will). Then, in your trigger, do if %1=lastreply (} {reply I'm sorry, but I'm an idio[D[D[D[D away for now.)
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Bah. It's late. I just totally butchered the braces.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: he's using mush not zmud
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I know that.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I was giving him a sample of what he could do.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: gotcha
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: how about you tell it to me in mush form so i can copy and paste it while i try and understand what its doing
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: clicking "regular expression" in MUSH would give a common pattern for the 2 programs
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: How about I don't since I don't deal with MUSH? :P
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: ok can u put it regular expression then?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Bah. What's your current tell trigger, Hellfiend?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the pattern can be "[{]tell[}](.* )?([A-Za-z]+) tells you " as a regular expression...then it's actually %2 for the variable
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: (*) sent you a tell
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I want the value, not the pattern.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oops, you use the catchtells message, sorry I was using the tell itself
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Does MUSH use %1 syntax, then?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: yep
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: yes
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: ^(.*?) just sent you a tell\.$
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: %1 -%9 (max of nine * per input line)
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Fine. Then do: if !=lastreply then reply Blah blah blah end -- or something like that.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: All on different lines, of course.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: as an alias? or where do i add it?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Oh yeah, and make sure you put the lastreply=%1 after the reply.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: The whole value of your trigger, Hellfiend. Gah. Hold on. Let me get into MUSH.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: if its really that much trouble ill remove the trigger
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i dont want to cause you any trouble
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: BTW, MUSH can use up to 999 *s in a trigger and still reference it, Velian ;-)
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: wow that was a ways back
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: ohh... hmm never programmed in it, only read the help files a little
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: one said 1 - 9
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: shrug* maybe outdated
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the triggers helpfile, For wildcards above 9 you can use this syntax:
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: kick %<22>The number in the angled brackets can be from 0 to 999.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus sighs.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Why can't MUSH be more... compliant with my wishes?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You snicker softly.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: MUSH uses lua as it's base, right?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: idk
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I wasn't asking the tech-retarded.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUSH can use lua, vbscript, a bunch of other languages ;-)
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Then that 'if then' should work. :P
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you've gotta tell it that you want it to be using lua in the world config (although the aardmush ships that way), and send to script or execute script as the action in the trig
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Yeah, it's already set up to use Lua.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daimbert Tech: Can I use tinyfugue on a Mac?  And is it useable by basic users?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, and not really, if "basic users" are used to Mac GUIs
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a command-line-only client
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so basically it opens up Terminal.app
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daimbert Tech: Hm, okay.  Well I use TinTin now, which is command line, I think
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, it's not all that far from tt++
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daimbert Tech: Oh okay, cool.  I want to use your spellup script.  I am getting an annoying amount of spells to keep track of.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daimbert Tech: cocky
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daimbert Tech: sorry totally mischanneled
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You snicker softly.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: How do you center the caption for a picture on the Aardwiki?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: is it possible to use a variable in a "Do not match this string" trigger?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vengance Tech: does anyone have a moon tracker on mushclient?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: anyone know of a good lightweight image drive program for vista/windows 7?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vengance Tech: anyone use a moon tracker for mushclient?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zakuro Tech: whats a moon tracker?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vengance Tech: tracks the progress of when the 3 moons will be in alignment
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Denglish Tech: I believe it is a script that keeps track of what moons are out and what moons aren't.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: mostly for enchanters who want to know when the 3 moons are coming out all at once
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zakuro Tech: really? so there's a function in the MUSHclient? or do we have to script ourself?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vengance Tech: it would be a seperate script, it doesnt come with mushclient
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vengance Tech: hence, me asking :P im looking for a working one
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zakuro Tech: sounds interesting, but i dunno how. how do i make a new window and make it a moon tracker anyway? or are we limited to  only the default 5 windows
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: in mush you can have a lot of windows
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zakuro Tech: Window > New Window seems to duplicate the current selected window
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vengance Tech: anyone use a moon tracker for mushclient?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yes
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: how do i turn off the bigmap showing thingie in aard's mushclient?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: autobigmap
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: thanks
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: urm... in vim, doesn't :%s/nn//g search with regex by default?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: aah... special version... not d+ but d+
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: err backslash d+ but backslash d backslash +
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: hhugo is your client MushClient?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: 42
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryu Tech: Any ps3 experts here?  I have 2 ps3s in the same room....we are both connected to live, we are trying to play cod3 but wont let one of us connect?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: wow. the next jesusphone is going to have copy-paste
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mt. Craigath Tech: Unheard-of powerful magics!
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: actually, it's the new os release for the jesusphone
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: is this enough info for a trigger or do i need the ENTIRE thing      Questor tells you 'Seek Kali's Avatar out somewhere in the vicinity'/Questor tells you 'of End of the Bar which is in the general area'/Questor tells you 'of Jenny's Tavern.'/Questor tells you 'Good luck Hellfiend. Return safely!'/Questor tells you 'You have 58 minutes to complete your quest.'
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: you can extract all the info u need from that 
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: will it be enough to actually trip a trigger i mean?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: the / means a new line?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: yes
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: will it set off the trigger?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: not too sure about mushclient hellfiend read the supplied references
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: well the only issue i have is that it seems to not accept partial information. and i cant do the entire thing for a trigger since the first part of a quest think is always different
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: go look under wildcards.. its probably * to represent any string or something
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: right i know that. i was just wondering if i have enough info to make it work
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: yes.. i do the same myself
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: ok one last question. what is that information. is it info or actually a channel?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: doesnt matter just make each line u receive from the questor it your trigger pattern
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: so i paste exactly what i showed u but with new lin instead of /?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Otani Tech: the mud client doesnt differentiate between channels. to the mud client, its all just text
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: how do i do it if my trigger doesnt allow line breaks?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: anyone know?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: multiline triggers or better script build
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: how do i do a multi line trigger? im more likely to understand that than anything dealing witha  script
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: look into regex
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: OK i think i have it figured out. we will have to wait six minutes to see
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: it didnt work...
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: My Aardwolf window just got detached from the main CMUD/zMUD window and is floating... How do I reattach/dock it?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: anyone familiar with div variables?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: or whatever they're called
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: hmm...
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: i'm trying to pull a trick off with an HTML table and don't know if it's possible or if i'm overthinking a simple solution. i'm trying to get a table to have one column with say like 13 rows but the next column to only have one row while retaining the format i want. last time i tried it rows 2-13 ended up way down screen where they were worthless.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Otani Tech: use colspan or rowspan?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: i never tried those before.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: but will it work in conjuction with an iframe ?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Otani Tech: dont see why not
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: they're attributes in the td tag, should be fine
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: worth a shot...worst thing that happens is i have to start over *snicker*
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The sexy Honid Tech: how do i get rid of this mush client tags that the mud adds when used its client and switched back to zmud
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodyThorn Tech: help tags
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: hmm...so <TD ROWSPAN = "13"> should make the second column reach all the way down to row 13 while keeping the rest of the format intact?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodyThorn Tech: and I still use a lot of them in c/zmud, very usefull.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Otani Tech: yes
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: hopefully using this method will give me more room to display stuff onscreen
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: yes.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: and so long as i don't put anything else in the other rows i shouldn't get any funky text overlaps right
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Otani Tech: what other rows?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: table cells usually autosize to hold the info they contain.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: well, if i use the Rowspan on the top row, rows 2-13 need to stay blank so i don't get overlaps right?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Otani Tech: no, you dont add any more rows
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: yeah, if you put something in 2-13, you need to change the rowspan value
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Otani Tech: you have 13 rows in column 1, and 1 row in column 2 that spans 13 rows
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: is it possible in mush to seperate chat logs by channel into seperate logs?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: well, i need to have 13 or so rows on the first column to hold links for the Ifram in column B to display
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: thanks for the advice on the html. works much better now.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: somehow it did give me more space on screen to display stuff too...weird
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodyThorn Tech: Hehe.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodyThorn Tech: I value my screen real-estate.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: well i'm reformatting iframes so i'm trying to get more display field using the same screen space
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodyThorn Tech: currently in cmud I have 5 windows, one of them tabbed to switch to another display in it.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: it's an epic struggle to contain 50 screens of data in a single space while not making it look cluttered to hell
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodyThorn Tech: Haha, yup.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenacious Takanata Tech: any suggestions on a good editor am used to UltraEdit, would like something similar...
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodyThorn Tech: I love UltraEdit.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodyThorn Tech: used to use Notepad++ but ultraedit trumped it.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: wimps, just use vim
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenacious Takanata Tech: me too, but i lost my copy (and the computer it was on) and can't remember the password to unzip the file i sent to myself :P
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodyThorn Tech: nah, no vim, I like to get things done.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodyThorn Tech: Ah, that is a bummer.  Notepad++ is free.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: hmm...i just use plain old notepad for all purposes.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodyThorn Tech: Notepad isn't bad, but I like having extra features, and I can make my Ultraedit as simple as notepad, or as complex as I want it.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenacious Takanata Tech: new question... aarddevil & vista... doable?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenacious Takanata Tech: just had to have the old computer go poof :(
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodyThorn Tech: Haha, no idea, sorry.  I use cmud.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenacious Takanata Tech: this bites :P
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: what's aarddevil?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenacious Takanata Tech: vista is like "It stopped working, and I dunno what to do!"
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodyThorn Tech: It's an old Aardwolf client.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: oh
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenacious Takanata Tech: old script for an old fogey (me!)
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tenacious Takanata grins mischievously.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodyThorn Tech: Even with all the people bitchin' about it, I can say, cmud has done me just fine so far.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: got zmud atm, dont see a need to upgrade is all
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodyThorn Tech: I haven't run into any bugs that have raised a wall in what I was trying to do with it anyway.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodyThorn Tech: that's what I thought, then I tried the free trial of cmud, and the differences were staggering.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenacious Takanata Tech: i like zmud. i just can't get my silly scripts and whatnot to work.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenacious Takanata Tech: aarddevil was... helpful :P
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: how is cmud better bloodythorn? is the mapper any good
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodyThorn Tech: Uhm, the interface alone was enough to convince me really.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: if the mapper was improved over zmud's, i'd consider that
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodyThorn Tech: I haven't noticed a whole hell of a lot of difference in the automappers though.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: doh :(
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodyThorn Tech: but to be fair, I don't use it much.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodyThorn Tech: I tried, but it frustrated me in similar ways that the zmud one did.  Though I am sure I could get it up and running if I knew a bit more about scripting it.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodyThorn Tech: It's just not high on the priority list.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodyThorn Tech: the package editor in cmud is really nice though.  Much more thought out than the editor in zmud.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: when i get around to writing a gq bot^H^H^H assistance program, i'll think about cmud :D
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: what do you mean package editor?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodyThorn Tech: It's where you edit your scripts.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenacious Takanata Tech: crap. now the aardwolf mushclient spellup plugin download link is puking on me :P
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenacious Takanata Tech: not my day, apparently.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tenacious Takanata snickers softly.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infected Inicus Tech: Right click, save as
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: will the spellup others tag for aard ever be implemented
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenacious Takanata Tech: when i click the link, it gives me an arror message
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: it recognised your IP and said "nupe"
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infected Inicus Tech: Takanata, you need to right click it.. and click save as
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenacious Takanata Tech: hehe
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infected Inicus Tech: Is Zmud worth it? Y/N
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: Y
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: u can dl it for 30 days free trial
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infected Inicus Tech: I can also illegally download it.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: which im sure many ppl here did haha
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: booo support shareware
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infected Inicus Tech: Is it worth it if I don't plan on scripting or anything?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infected Inicus Tech: I mean, I'll use other already made scripts.. but I'm just trying to figure out it it's going to be pointless to switch over
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: i use zmud because of its mapper
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: which isn't really perfect..
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: no, but better than having no integrated mapper
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodyThorn Tech: sorry, I got busy...I think Cmud is worth it even if you aren't going to script...it's other basic abilities help out quite a bit.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodyThorn Tech: and according to the web site, the automapper is improved.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodyThorn Tech: though I'd be strapped to tell you how.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: the version number was improved :P
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodyThorn Tech: Nah, I read the forums for it, I know Zugg is actively working on it making it better.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: oh cool
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: have to take a squizz at it then
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: i'd get cmud if i wasn't afraid all my scripts would break moving from zmud 7.21
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodyThorn Tech: I do know one advantage that cmud would have over zmud in the automapper...
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodyThorn Tech: Haha, and that is a legitimate fear...a lot of the scripting functions in zmud that were written broken were fixed in cmud.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: i only have 2 major scripts... one for the mapper, and another one for the spellups... and one of them is no longer needed :)
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodyThorn Tech: oh, if that's the case, I'm sure they could easily be debugged.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: how abt the quest and gquest and cp scripts etc
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: never used any, can't comment on em
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodyThorn Tech: actually, cmud comes with a public library to download other people's scripts that have been submitted, per mud.  Aard has plenty submitted.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: cool
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: nice
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodyThorn Tech: though I usually only use them to pick them apart and modify them.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodyThorn Tech: oh, and the advantage that cmud has over zmud in the automapper, and in scripts in general, is speed.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: oh well but if it ain't broke don't fix it i guess
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: zmud doing all that i require it to do atm 
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodyThorn Tech: true...like I said, I got curious, and that's what sunk me.  I forked out the 30 dollars for cmud.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: curiosity burns wallets
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: not necessarily for cmud, but i've spent dough on useless crap :P
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodyThorn Tech: quite.  I just got a little frustrated with zmud, and wondered if cmud was better...answer, in my opinion anyway, was yes.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: hha but i don't know enough perl or vbscript to make it worth it
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodyThorn Tech: I don't know either.  It also utilizes Lua...but still, I don't know anythign about it...I just script in good ol' zmud scripting language.
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: i see.. sounds good i'll check out cmud soon heh
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodyThorn Tech: I can tell you it's at least worth the 30 day trial :P
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: hmm...okay, how do i fix a table that works fine with IE but looks like total crap in Firefox ?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: don't use firefox
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: i don't use it...but some of my visitors do so i need to figure out a way to make my table with a spanned iframe look right in firefox
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what's an iframe, anyway?
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: Inline Frame so you can display data without switch pages
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you could achieve the same thing with javascript
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: i have a menu-driven website that displays data without having to refresh new pages, just a portion of it
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: javascript is evil too :
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: well...that's a battle for tomorrow night
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blacklight Tech: does anyone know where i could download zmud 5.55 for free at? i cant seem to fine one on my own
T1/r5/2009-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=+zmud+5.55+free
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: anyone know if there are any linux clients for aard? is there a linux version of MUSH or anything?
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you can run mushclient in wine on linux
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: that's what I do
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: k thanks
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vengance Tech: how do I use variables with alias's in mushclient?
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: use * and %1
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: like "spellup *" and then "c invis %1"
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vengance Tech: sorry, i mean a set variable, so if i wanna use the same variable in multiple alias's i can just change the one variable
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vengance Tech: so i dont need to go through and edit a whole bunch of alias's
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: look at SetVariable and GetVariable in the documentation
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vengance Tech: oh thanks
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: wtf is myspace buzz? got an welcoming email from it. seems to originate from legit domain :\
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Workaholic Timeghost Tech: originate from in headers or in a fake email address in the From field? :P
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i still wouldnt open it. it sounds kind of fishy
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: ignore what you don't know
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: you won't miss what you don't know anyway
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: 8not kirua
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hellfiend nods at Kirua.
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: wow im almost awake today
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: yup, just 2 errors in 1 line
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hmm. links seem to go to myspace and it's someting aboot their mobile services. wonder why would anyone use my email for their myspace
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone used M$'s latest web design/development package?
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what's the best format for lossless compression of icons on websites?
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: png, although it's not lossless
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: for some reason thought png was uncompressed
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: gif compress any?
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: png is just advanced giv
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: gif*
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: browser support?
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ie sucks
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: fails to render transparent png properly
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i guess i'll go for gif then
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: all sane people use png
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: actually, i think ms promised to fix it with ie8
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if it doesn't render properly on some browsers, why would you?
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: because it makes a stronger point than spelling microsoft with a $
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's the browsers fault, not the standards
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: every other browser can handle it perfectly well
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: except for links and lynx :P
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: thats kinda irrelecant
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: irrelevant
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i use google chrome
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i wish i could use chrome, but it lacks plugins
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not chrome, but iron. that's what i have installed
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetcuti Tech: is this Pueblo script a form of virus?
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetcuti Tech: i delete it and it keeps showing up. also all my triggers have been deleted.
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=pueblo+zmud
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetcuti Tech: thanks
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torghay Tech: test
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fail
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torghay Tech: anyone know why my laptop would disconnect from wireless every 3 min almost to the scond?
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: interference?
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: epic failure in the installation
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: there are lots of devices that will interfere with a wireless router
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torghay Tech: hrmm
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try changing channels, try newer drivers, older drivers
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torghay Tech: working ont he dirvers first
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torghay Tech: drivers
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: didn't put your wireless router in front of a sunny window did you?
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torghay Tech: the odd thing is it is at 3 minutes almost the the second
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: look & listen around the house for something kicking on at those intervals
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torghay Tech: that would be funny if you were right
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does it matter where the laptop is in proximity to the WAP?
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torghay Tech: to be honest I havent used my wifes laptop before, she claims this happens all the time to her, nice of her to inform me NOW
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: ur luckuy it wasnt an STD =)
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: is it possible to search for a key in a string list in zmud using a non-exact match? Ie. using the search word sen'narre to find sen'narre lake
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: why not just go to recall and type "runto sennarre"?
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: the short answer is yes. but if you have the knowledge to DB rooms/areas you should have the knowledge to search them
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: either that or you should have purchased the lesson package that came with your DB
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: in other words i must use an sql query? there is no way in zmud language?
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: "ZMud Language"??? 
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: zscript
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: oh... the scripting... :)
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Mud by post :D
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: (snail mail)
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's looking for info in a zmud database, not to become a db
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: yep abelinc
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: i thought he meant "delphi" which is what zmud is written in :)
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snagandorf Tech: what does it mean when u try to boot linux from a usb device and u end up with nothing but the word GRUB and a blinking cursor
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: grub is the name of the loader program
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: your grub isn't working or it cannot find the kernel
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: you have a problem
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: more than likely your grub cannot find the kernel to load the distro of linux
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: first entry for googling grub cursor
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: grub hates you
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: USB devices are a laff -- the technology is not yet universal
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snagandorf Tech: ok, so i need to boot off of the recovery thumb drive and look at my grub.conf
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dagas gasps as she realizes what Global Menace did.
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: what you need to do is mod your .conf file to mount the usb device like mount <dir> /sdb2/usb
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: which distro are you trying to USB boot?
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: i am an expert at speaking of that which i know nothing
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Canter Tech: any nice website, "how to build a website"?
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: rofl xyliz
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: tizag.com has good tutorial on html and stuff
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: aren't we all Xyliz?
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Canter Tech: thanks
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Dagas: She has a special knack for it.
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: well as long as she has google and wiki... i think she may be safe though :)
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: whats that
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: ohh wiki, abelincs favorite source
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: The Internet is full of lies. You can't trust anything on it.
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snagandorf Tech: i'm trying to run ubuntu 8.10 i'v got the live usb working, followed all the instructions for making a persistant thumb, am wondering if i goofed this one up when i put a previous version of linux on it and i'm getting conflicts
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Global Menace ducks defensively.
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: with that criteria, it's a wonder we trust newspapers anymore charneus
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods at Scars.
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: that would do it Snag.. 
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: just mod your .conf file for grub and force mount your usb
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/live-ubuntu-810-usb-persistent-install-windows/
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Uh-oh. Dagas is pointing at Global Menace, screaming, "LIES!" once again.
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hmm. You could swear Dagas has been here just a second ago. You wonder where she went ...
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: what he said earlier is correct you have to change the .conf file to point to the thumb drive, im a semi linux noob so i dont remember the path i used. sda/usb0 or something
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snagandorf Tech: ok, i'l see what it's got, just got the thingy booted
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: depending on which slot you use ... like on dell laptops there is sda/sdb/sdc... the ones on the right side are sda and sdb... top to bottom
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: and the one on the back is sdc
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: or maybe that was for setting up the swap hmmm
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: no you're right Menace
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snagandorf Tech: well, with a microsd in a minisd adapter in a sd adapter in a multicard reader it could be /dev/sd(anything)1
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: true... 
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: adapater fun?
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: if you have your linux booted... type "sudo fdisk -l"
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: adapter*
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: thats not nice
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: and that will list out every device that you have plugged in... all "mount-points"
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: and if your using a micro-device like a sd-mem card, that will tell you where it is
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: then just add that as a forced mount in your .conf file
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: ill configure your .conf to forcibly mount ;)
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: then you would wake up... and realize you need a towel!
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: its probable 
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dagas . o O ( typical male... always going to the gutter! )
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snagandorf Tech: is there a way to search for grub.conf or do i just gotta hunt and peck till i stumble accross it, the filesystem is not like any i'v run accross, might have missed copying something from live to persistent
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: it should be in your /boot or /etc folderz
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: etc grub?
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dagas gasps as she realizes what Global Menace did.
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: like that old dos utility whereis  --there is something similar in *nix
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: yeah... "find"
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: it would be something like "find . -name "*.conf" |grep -v
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: damn it
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: it would be something like "find . -name "*.conf" |grep -v grep"
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: there that should work
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snagandorf Tech: i'v got /var/lib/dpkg/info/grub.conffiles is that close enough(hmm, i see nothing on the card i'm trying to boot from named grub.* could it be that mbr is trying to call a nonexistant loader?
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: yes... the MBR is where grub is loaded
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snagandorf Tech: but there is no grub to load...
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snagandorf Tech: can i read the MBR and put grub where it's trying to load it from?
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: sounds like you screwed up your install
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: its a boot loader. its a tiny (3K) app that is written in the MBR
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: i think hes saying he doesnt see a conf file for it
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: do you have any form of linux loaded?
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snagandorf Tech: it was my understanding that the MBR was no longer big enough to hold todays boot loaders, so it simply passed off to the first sector of a designated partition where the actuall bootloader resides
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: if you do, then go into your um whats it called in ubuntu? in SuSe its called yast... go in there and look under system... and go into your "Boot Loader Configuration" there you can edit it
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: if you formatted your disk to EXT2/3 then it creates a new MBR that is 2Mb
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: Wow, you know it's gotten bad when even the MBR has become bloatware.
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: well the .rpm systems do... not 100% sure ofthe .deb systems
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: only bloat-ware because of Micro-Crash systems :) :) :) (oh no... let the flaming begin) :)
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: nite nite all... going to bed now.
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snagandorf Tech: if i copy /media/disk/boot to the bootable sector of the messed up media, might that do the trick
T1/r5/2009-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: after spending an hour trying to get a table to work in firefox, i have come to a conclusion. firefox is lame for certain things.
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: a table?
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: an html table?
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: i'm trying to do a combination spanned table and iframe and in firefox that simply doesn't fly
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: why the crap would you do that
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: because tables don't let you do vertical without resizing a cell to ungodly height otherwise.
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: you should use divs?
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: i found out that they never loaded certain aspects of html 3.2 and html 4.1 into firefox in the first place. hence why what i do doesn't work in it
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: Probably some dumb woman, right Starphoenix?
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: They really shouldn't let us anywhere near computers or software.
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Officer Starling pats Starphoenix on his head.
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: i could try a Dhtml menu type thing, but i don't wanna learn how to use that kinda stuff :P
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if only, birdie
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: Starling is obviously making blind references again.
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: unless anyone knows an IE & Firefox friendly way to display a vertical table :P
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: you could use css
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: so it will work correctly
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: Just remarking on something you said that was quoted over my ftalk :)
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: yeah, i tried that too Menace. I downloaded a css fix, but the fix didn't fix it
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: i was just trying to make things look better, i actually made a good working table but it was horizontal and a bit confusing to look at
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: the only other option i can think of is to use some iframe trickery and make a 2-cell table of gargantuan size and fake the menu look
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: then i don't have to span the table
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: why the crap would you use iframes
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: i need to display information on one screen that's why
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: the iframes were the only reasonble option i had so i could have 6 different files display on one pages
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: Can't you just set up frames which target the frame on the right?
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: w/o reloading the page or what?
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: or you just want the content to load into a section?
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: the purpose of me using a table/iframe combo was to display 7 or 8 files one one page without reloading individual files in a seperate window
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: As in set it up with seven individual frames, six on the left sized to be 1/6th of the page tall, and one on the right to display the individual file?
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: learn DHTML
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: turri, i did that but ended up with it not working with Firefox
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: Ah, FF. Alright, so do you -have- to use FF? Can you not use the extension of like .l8r and associate it with MS-Explorer?
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: i personally don't use firefox that often (only at work cause they don't have the ability to block it), but alot of my site's visitors DO use firefox over IE
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: so i need to figure out a good compromise
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: google chrome > all *duck*
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: eh not really ;)
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: its nice though
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: You can make a .html file, but name it whatever.somethingnothtml and associate the file type with IE.
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: Unless you specifically want it to be in Firefox.
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: it displays fine in IE Turri...but i need my .html to be able to display in both browsers equally...or reasonably close to equal
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: i use IE myself so i know everything works in it
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: Alright, let me try a different approach... What are you trying to frame up?
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: I came in a little bit late, so yeah.
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: ajax?
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: i use ajax to clean my toilet :P
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: thats very techie of you
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: keeps it constantly updated, must be nice
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: it does. and it lets me know via RSS feed when to replace the chroline tablet
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: chlorine :P
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: woo hoo! the cure is worse than the disease.
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: thanks to the guys, girls, and gender-confused organisms that took the time to assist with my conundrum
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feiros Tech: can anyone plzzz send me a tell with a good mushclient quest script..mine I have now is enoying as hell
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: i have the quest noter
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: the only scripting i use in mushclient came with the aard version.
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i would actually like a quest script/note
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infected Inicus Tech: Does anyone know if the miniwindows plugins for MUSHclient are supported by the Aardmush client? Or will I need to switch to the 4.34 MUSH?
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: it should work
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infected Inicus Tech: Hrm.. will the spellups plugin work for MUSH 4.34? Or only the Aardmush
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: you must have at leastt 4.34 fot it to work
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infected Inicus Tech: No you don't?
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Infected Inicus peers intently at Hellfiend.
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infected Inicus Tech: I'm using it on the Aardmush right now
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: it did not work fot my aardmush
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: but im on 4.34 so it will work
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infected Inicus Tech: Alright, thanks
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infected Inicus Tech: Do the spellups show up in a new world file, or a miniwindow
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: im not sure we are talking the same plugin
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Infected Inicus sighs.
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infected Inicus Tech: What plugin are you even referring to?
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: it is just called spellup
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infected Inicus Tech: Is this the one you're talking about?  http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=8780
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: mine doesnt show up. it just spells you up when a spell wear off
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: yes
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infected Inicus Tech: So it shows up in a world file then, you just haven't created the spellups.mcl file?
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infected Inicus Tech: Or you've done all the required steps for it, but it just doesn't make a new window in 4.34
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: well it doesnt make a new window. and i dont see it happen because i dont have local echo on
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i just see the affect
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infected Inicus Tech: I don't care about seeing you cast the spell, I just like having a list of affected spells, pending spells.. spells on recovery.. etc
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: like when you type spellup after its installed? main window
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infected Inicus Tech: I'm just going to install it myself, I have no idea what you're even talking about.
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i am sorry. i seem to be finding out that im retarded
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: im using zmud... every time i log onto aard, one of my variables (recall) gets reset... is that normal?
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: is it set to use a default value
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: ah ha, thanks
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: generally if I wanna setup a network for a campus/commercial building I just run cat5e or better from the data closet and drop a hub at every other shared wall for access ? or is there a better/preffered way ?
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: go wireless
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: it needs to be wired, but the wireless will be backup
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: zomg anyone here know C++ and linked lists?
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: i'm trying to write a function that adds a new node BEFORE an existing one, but i can't get it to work
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazzi Tech: why don't you use the linked list STL?
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: anyone have any expert knowledge of linked lists in  C++?
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i have a hazy rememberance of the principal, but don't use C++ in practice
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so no, not really
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: lol
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: thanks :)
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: tend to use java these days, which provides better structures already for oyu
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazzi Tech: Hhugo Are you doing this for a project?
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: yup
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazzi Tech: Is this a double linked list or single?
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: single
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: you know much about them?
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazzi Tech: basically what you will need to do is to iterate teh list, keeping the previous lists position.
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: i know how to create them
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazzi Tech: when you get the where you want to add the link list get make the pointer in your new node the address of the current spot you are in.
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazzi Tech: and then in your previous node, you will make that pointer, point to the new modde
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: i'm trying to insert a new node into the middle of the list but BEFORE a node
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazzi Tech: s/modde/node
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: i'm passing in a pointer the the node that i want the new object to be placed before and the new object
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazzi Tech: that is why you need ot keep the previous link stored.
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: in a temp?
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazzi Tech: correct.
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: i have it stored, but it just isn't showing up when i go to print the list
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazzi Tech: then you acn do something like temp->nextPtr=newnode
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazzi Tech: and then do newnode->nextPtr=currPosition
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: Node* temp
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: temp = p
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: p = new Node(x, p->next)
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: p->next = temp
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: that is what i have... with p being a pointer the the node that i want to put x before
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazzi Tech: . So x is your new node?
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: yes
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazzi Tech: the problem you are having is that you need a pointer to to the node that was originally infront of p.
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: right
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: but how can i get that?
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazzi Tech: hold on let me think about it for a sec
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazzi Tech: What is your code that you have to find node p.
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: for (ptr = header
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: if (ptr->element == x)
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: return ptr
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: bah!
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: all messed up with the semicolons
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rude boy Hhugo sighs.
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: ; ; ; ;
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: ; ; ; ;
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazzi Tech: for (ptr=header)
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: it just traverses the list until ptr->element = x and then returns ptr
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazzi Tech: http://www.go4expert.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1278 should help
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: and what happen if nofound 
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: yeah i looked at that site... the program is set up completely different than mine
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: if none found it just returns the last node
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: well a ptr to the last node
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: but finding p isn't the problem
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazzi Tech: basically you need to do a temporay variable in your find statement, that has the previous value.
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazzi Tech: sent you an email that should help you out
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: but the find function is used in other parts of the program where it needs to find the actual p not the one before it
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: oh you made a whole new function i see
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustin Tech: quick question
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: quick answer.
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustin Tech: got my computer hooked up to my tv, tv is only showing in green and blue. not normal.
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustin Tech: red wont show up at all
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: get some red paint and pour it down the cable, to revitalize the red in your tv
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: it worked for me
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustin Tech: thanks.
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: np
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: anyone wanting a plugin that will cut runto time vastly? havent finished it yet but its getting there
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: how'd you cut runto time?
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: h4x
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: aliases with speedwalks
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: the ones i have are only useful to you if you have passdoor tho
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what client?
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: don't know how that'd be any different but count me in
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: mush
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: i can find someone to convert it to another client if you need
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: time aint free tho...
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: ill gladly accept donations of mud resources for such
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: it froze my computer...
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snagandorf Tech: if i use ext3 instead of ext2 for / when installing linux to a usb microSD reader, how quickly will journaling destroy the card? weeks of normal use, months, years?
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellfiend Tech: is there a method to extract all information,say speedwalks, from a website and save them to your aliases?
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hobear Tech: anyone actively use zmud mapper?
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I use CMUD's mapper, and it /was/ the same... :P
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hobear Tech: i should use cmud but i dont wanna pay for it considering i've had zmud for years
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: any free .mdb reader dl's? openoffice base is giving me fits, and I don't wanna dl office in any form :P?
T1/r5/2009-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: and yes, I'm googling at the same time, but not sure what I can trust etc :P
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenacious Takanata Tech: anyone have a moment free?
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infected Inicus Tech: Depends
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: lol
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: depends on inicus
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenacious Takanata Tech: i broke stuff again :P
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenacious Takanata Tech: or something like...
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infected Inicus Tech: Spellup plugin?
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: the correct question should be 'is anyone awake?'
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Otani Tech: i thought the fact that we were here was proof we had time
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenacious Takanata Tech: i tried the mushclient... then i got zmud to co-operate.
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodyThorn Tech: not me...time is valuable and I have none to give!
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenacious Takanata Tech: now i'm stuck with {stats}blah/blah,blah/blah, etc.
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: BloodyThorn, stop wasteing everybodies time with pointless messages!
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infected Inicus Tech: Type tags off
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenacious Takanata Tech: danke.
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodyThorn Tech: Uhm, no.
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infected Inicus Tech: Statmon is the command for that, but you'll have other tags when you spellup and stuff.. tags off takes care of it
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infected Inicus Tech: BloodyThorn, um yes.
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Infected Inicus peers intently at A bloody squid.
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Infected Inicus sighs.
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodyThorn Tech: And why did you chose me?  There were plenty of pointless messages before mine.
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: And you didn't break anything that happens everytime you switch between mush and another client that doesn't use the tags
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Sorry, I just thought it was amusing bloodythorn
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: Because we hate you, BloodyThorn.
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: and, don't mind starling
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: she can't help it
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodyThorn Tech: Bleh, tell me something new :P  Thankfully I thrive on it.
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: I'm nice.  Rub my belly.
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Officer Starling exposes her belly and invites everyone to rub it.
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: "Do it!" yells Infected Inicus.  Officer Starling raises her shirt, and dances wildly!
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gregor runs away in utter terror!
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zakuro Tech: mardi gras?
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infected Inicus Tech: No, Aardi Gras
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Officer Starling Tech: Fine, I'll just rub it myself.
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zakuro Tech: lolz
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Officer Starling smiles and rubs her belly.
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gregor grabs some CopPorn and sits back to watch the show.
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodyThorn Tech: If you work with them Takanata, tags can be a good thing even in zmud.
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skinner Tech: ok.. anyone mind helping a bit with some basic Java?
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: h- 20
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skinner Tech: have JavaBeans in use (although that shouldnt probably matter in this case)
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skinner Tech: is it possible to have thingy called counter  (for example, it being integer type) with jTextField
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skinner Tech: basic idea here: click button X, it has code counter++ ... and then use jTextField_x or such
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(VoDkA) Cirrus Tech: anyone knows how to disable displaying flash files on websites using firefox?
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: Get Flashblock
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(VoDkA) Cirrus Tech: thanks
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yuudoku Refinnej nods.
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warder Tech: are there any web server guru's around this hour of the morning?
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: anyone have any ideas what this means Network Error (gateway_error) in relation to trying to visit a web server(ie apache)
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: anyone familiar with triggers? i'm running on mush
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: on MushClient there is a procedure to highlight a phrase , can you use that?
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game -> configure -> triggers...put the text to match up top, put what you want it to do in the big box...
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: i see the highlight
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: by default, it uses "glob" matching, which is literal and anchored
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can use * for wildcards in glob matching
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: After you highlight a phrase you have a pattern for the trigger to use as Abelink said above
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: highlight doesn't really work, but i suppose it doesn't really matter since triggers are color independent
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: alternatively, there's a checkbox to use regular expressions, which are more flexible and unanchored by default, but with more special characters
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: back up,back up get the highlight to work , it is a trigger
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your issue is that globs are anchored...you must match the entire line, start to finish
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the line starts with the MOB's name, which changes, so you must wildcard it or use a variable
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the middle is the weapon's name, which also changes...
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: thanks for the enthusiastic response, hang on peeps getting highlight to work xD
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: grabbing your weapon after being disarm is a booger of a trigger
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: nah, it's easy.
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: quest buy bracers. wear bracers
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: agreed
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: this is what i get when i copy pasted highlight: QUEST: You may now quest again.{chan ch=answer}
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: starting with a trigger to run to questor, for starters
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's best when you keep the keywords of your weapon in a variable...the issue is that you must get <weaponname>;wear <weaponname>, but weaponname isn't necessarily what the trigger sees for the 'and sends your weapon's long name flying'
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: the trigger isn't even activating :(
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: good plan to build trigger in steps 
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: trigger test is (shft)+(cntr)+(F12)
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: game - Configure -Triggers menu , check if triggers are on?
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: yep its on. i'm just not setting em up right
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: this is what i have as trigger text: ^QUEST\: You may now quest again\.!$
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: do you have the reg ex box checked?
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: yep i double checked, there must be something wrong with the trigger text..
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: or did you change the default escape sequence?
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: what's that?
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: what client are you using?
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: mushclient
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: can you highlight a phase with (cntr)+(Alt) +H
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: oh well nevermind then i don't use that
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: I get \bKaof Tech\b as a trigger. I' m not sure about your Questor one
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: okay, when i highlight i get a popup, then i can't quite do anything from there.
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: I'm out
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: hit me like a dummy. i'm totally clueless
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: i tried ctrl alt h like you suggested
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: Use the cursor to select text in the main screen?
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: i did. and i highlighted something, what from there?
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: menu(game-Configure-triggers) to see and edit that trigger, you can add a command to send
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: or play a sound
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: so if i highlighted correctly what i highlighted would be put in the trigger text by default
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: the text is the trigger, the command to Mush is to hightlight
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: i think i'm doing highlight wrong, i select text, then ctrl alt h, i get a popup
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: i can't click okay cause it'd ask me to select a different color, then i just close the thing
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: that's right chose som random color
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: i used custom1, configure->triggers and paste into the trigger text box?
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: in my popup the text I selected is in the box I just chose a new color
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: yep, i did that, then the box closes.
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: what's next?
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: now go to the menu Game-Configure-Trigger, you will see the text and you can chose to edit that trigger
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: by that you mean i have to paste the text into the trigger box, aye? trying to be as explicit as possible so i know i'm actually doing it right
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: you should have a working trigger that highlights your chosen text, from there you can experiment by changing the text
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: do you see a list of trigger?
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: i do.
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: its easier if you treat me like an idiot, lol
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: tell me every single step
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: pick the one you just did and edit that
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: that is enough for today grasshopper, I'll leave you to experiment
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I think the disconnect is that when you say that MUSH lets you highlight, the thought is highlight = selecting...not that MUSH has a quickie function to create a highlighting trigger...so doing the ctrl-alt-h is actually creating a new trigger in the trigger list which matches on the literal text that was selected at the time
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: bottom line he wanted help but he needs to read the help files first
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: what else is new
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: the ultimate tech support advice, RTFM
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: oops
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: reading helpfiles doesn't always help...you need to understand what you're reading...lots of newer players aren't geeks like us :-)
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: poin tacken
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: point tacken
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You roll on the floor, laughing hysterically.
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: point taken
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and the geeks aren't English/typing majors ;-)
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: point taken
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: thank god ro the replay key
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone know of a free program that'll access .qic files in xp?
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: what is a name of a program i can get to type for me? so i can talk i mean
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Avatar Aang Tech: text to speech?
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Denarius Tech: speech to text?
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Avatar Aang bonks himself and grimaces in pain.
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: speech to text
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vengance Tech: Regarding the zmud mapper, how do I set up a portal to enter another room?
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Livonya Tech: which portal?
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huie Tech: hmm every time I move my 'big map' minimizes, any ideas why?
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vengance Tech: anyone use zmud mapper that might be able to help me with a couple questions?
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Livonya Tech: shoot
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik aims the crosshairs..Livonya collapses in a pool of blood.
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vengance Tech: how do you connect rooms via portals?
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huie Tech: ah its aggravating
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: i use #portal "doportal 'amulet aardwolf' , for example , doportal is an alias that wears the portal etc
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Livonya Tech: depends - are you talking room portals or held portals?
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vengance Tech: portals in a room
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vengance Tech: for instand in li'dnesh a log takes you to another room, but when it speedwalks it doesnt ackowledge that connection
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vengance Tech: i obviously do not have it set up correctly
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Livonya Tech: well - the connection/link should be of type other
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vengance Tech: in this instance its an item on the group
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vengance Tech: err ground
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: so like enter log?
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vengance Tech: nod
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: shortcut for making type other exits while mapping is >enter log>DIRECTION, the direction part is optional
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Livonya Tech: nod
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: but its handy to use a direction so you can use numpad to move around. and let's say you made direction east when you go east in that room mapper will autosend enter log instead
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vengance Tech: i apologize i know nothing about mapper so..that didnt really make sense to me :P
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huie Tech: does anyone use aardwolf client?
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Denarius Tech: yes
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huie Tech: Every time I move the big map minimizes and I am not sure why 
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Denarius Tech: and neither do I.
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Denarius Tech: I disabled my big map, it annoyed me too much and I needed the screen space.
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Relativity.  Motion warps the fabric of space.
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: I think there's something on the client faq page about how to get bigmap to just stay up.
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: or go away completely, depending on preference.
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: how do i get Chuft to go away completely?
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: imm Snikt?
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: lol
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not even you are that stupid
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huie Tech: I will take a look, thanks
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: did i just say that? that didn't come out right
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tigernuts snuggles up to Razor.
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huie Tech: Just incase anyone is interested, it is 'bigmap auto off' :)
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: whats the syntax in zmud if i want to deactivate a class folder within a different class from the one that my trigger is in?
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: help with mush triggers, anyone?
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: what you need?
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: what specifically do you need help with on the triggers?
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: my trigger text isn't firing. I made it fire on 'You fail to hide in the shadows.' to send the command 'hide'. highlighted the text so my trigger text is actually '\bYou fail to hide in the shadows\.\b'
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: trigger is enabled and converted to regular expression
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: anyone willing to buy a faster speedwalk plugin for mush? compares in a direct test. speed to deathtrap was 14 seconds and to ft1 was 4 seconds. only accepting MUD resources. not yet complete buy i will get on it if i have a buyer
T1/r5/2009-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: send tells if interested
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jumala Pohhui Tech: can anyone tell me why cant i change my desktop picture? 
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: what os?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does it give you an error message?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jumala Pohhui Tech: no
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jumala Pohhui Tech: and if i put propertis on desctop it wont let me choose it.... the roll menu dosent work where i can change pictures its jammed
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: open up regedit, check HKCU, software, microsoft, windows, currentversion, policies, see if there's an activedesktop key
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: uh... be very careful while you're mucking around in your registry :)
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: check the same thing in hklm as well
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: looking to see if a key exist can't cause harm...I haven't told him to change it yet ;-)
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: just because you didn't tell him to do it doesn't mean that he wouldn't
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jumala Pohhui Tech: how do i open this regedit
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: start -> run, type regedit and hit enter
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jumala Pohhui Tech: im not very wise + ive had a bottle of borboun
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jumala Pohhui Tech: ok
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: seriously tho.. pohhui... are you the owner of the machine you're working on?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: umm, how about we hold off until tomorrow then
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: do you have any idea what you're doing
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Denarius Tech: alcohol and computers don't mix. 
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jumala Pohhui Tech: yes im owner
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: it's like, not your dad's computer, or anything ;)
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: my suggestion is pour coffee in air fan vent...it will fix it i swear
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jumala Pohhui Tech: ok i got it open what should i check now?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I mean, I'd laugh my ass off if you ended up pooched, but I'd eventually feel bad ;-)
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: if you can't hit properties via the context menu on desktop, can you get to the display icon in control panel?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if I understood, he can access properties, but can't choose a different desktop once there
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jumala Pohhui Tech: i can open properties.... put on actual menu where u can choose a dectop picture i can choose anything because its jammed
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are you sure that you can't wait until you're sober?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jumala Pohhui Tech: im cool i just had one bottle
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: oh yeah... i forgot about the burboun
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: if he waits till he's sober, how will he have anything to regret?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, in regedit, the left-hand side lets you explore different parts of the registry...there's little + marks for what you can expand
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jumala Pohhui Tech: yea
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: i like to expands your + marks abelinc
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: expand*
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jumala Pohhui Tech: got 5 folders there
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the two places that the policy to restrict desktop changes are HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE -> software -> microsoft -> windows -> currentversion -> policies
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: once you're expanded to there, see if under policies, there's something called activedesktop
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: im expanded fo sho
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jumala Pohhui Tech: no theres not
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jumala Pohhui Tech: explorer, nonenum,ratings and system
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, the next place to check is the same path, except instead of the first part being HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE, it's HKEY_CURRENT_USER
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jumala Pohhui Tech: yes got active dectop there
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: expand it
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jumala Pohhui Tech: k
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: with it highlighted, does the right-hand part of the window have anything about NoChangingWallpaper?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jumala Pohhui Tech: there is shit like no changing wallpaper
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: language please
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, double-click that, and where it's got a 1, type a 0
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jumala Pohhui Tech: got 0 there allready
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: figures
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jumala Pohhui Tech: got nohtmlwallpaper aswell
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, since the key exists, it was set at some point, but it being set to 0 should mean that the "no" is disabled, so the editing is enabled
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jumala Pohhui Tech: so what should i do?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, lets try looking at another place that it can be locked...close out regedit
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then start -> run, type "gpedit.msc" & hit enter
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: this is XP, right?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jumala Pohhui Tech: yea
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, k, I don't do vista ;-)
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in here, expand User Configuration, Administrative Templates, Desktop, Active Desktop
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: with Active Desktop, everything on the righ-side should say Not configured
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jumala Pohhui Tech: it said windows cant find plaplapla erroe
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jumala Pohhui Tech: error
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can't find what?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jumala Pohhui Tech: run - gpedit.msc
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, hmm
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jumala Pohhui Tech: unslovable?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just to see, go to start -> run, type "mspaint" and hit enter
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jumala Pohhui Tech: k got it
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that should open up a cheesy painting program, use the paintbucket to just give it a color
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jumala Pohhui Tech: yea it did
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: now go to file -> set as background (tiled) & see what it does
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jumala Pohhui Tech: it changed it
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cool, see if you can change it using properties again
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jumala Pohhui Tech: cant.... it wont move
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jumala Pohhui Tech: does it mean when i load picture with paint i can set it as abackround?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, dunno what's causing the issues with the control panel, but at least we can usemspaint as a workaround...find the picture you want for your desktop, open it up in that, and set as background
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jumala Pohhui Tech: dosent work... makes backround white
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jumala Pohhui Tech: ?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Opian Tech: Any suggestions for a strong mud client for mac os x?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: i finally figured out that stupid table bug with firefox
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Cool :)
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: mozilla and their noncompliance with html standards >_>
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: What HTML standards, though?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: i had to force firefox to use html 3.2 or lower for it to read a table. it doesn't support html 4.1 tables which i was using
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and other engines?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: with IE it was fine. i didn't try it with anything else cause i haven't had anyone with another browser try my site
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Starphoenix: from personal experience, it's usually IE that breaks the standards, though on some rare occasions they do the right thing but everyone else doesn't.
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and the code validates?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: i had to add in a line of code from w3 for firefox to understand what i was doing, then redo the table :P
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Could I see your code, though?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: the old version? i done deleted that already :P
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone have a good free tool to export .dbx files to .eml?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: although even the guys at mozilla admitted that they don't support everything with tables they should.
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien rapidly nods twice at Starphoenix, in complete agreement.
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: and when you drop iframes into the mix, firefox has a tendency to puke it out onscreen in a weird manner too :P
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: don't try to use a combo of spanned tables, iframes, and auto-resizing cells if you want firefox users to see the page without 4-D glasses >_>
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Heh. Well, I haven't heard of auto-resizing cells.. what are those?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: it was a dhtml trick i layered into the table code so a cell could "span" and then "unspan" ... kinda like those stupid ads you see on yahoo! and stuff now that outta the blue take up the whole page
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: ... and if it's annoying, why would you want to do it? :P
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: only the table would squish to the side then unsquish so you could get back at the info
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Ah, OK.
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: not firefox friendly in the least
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: i was trying to take something annoying and make it marginally useful...only to find that it's just annoying all around :P
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I'm biased, I'll admit, but I'm more inclined to believe IE is trying to force standards by market size rather than FF not supporting the right HTML ;)
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: probably a bit of right on both ends of that arguement.
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: end result was i went back to some basic table workings and some iframe trickery that seems to mesh well with both, so everyone is happy....except for the random safari user i suppose :P
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: May I see the page, though?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Workaholic Timeghost Tech: is Safari on the KHTML or the mozilla engine?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: i have no earthly idea Timeghost :P
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Workaholic Timeghost Tech: if it's on KHTML forget it :P lemme check
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Workaholic Timeghost Tech: I use the KHTML engine mostly - but that's only because I don't want any annoyances ;) it simply doesn't support them :P
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: i was more concerned with firefox since that's used more anyways. i know it works in IE cause that's what i use
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'veren Astardok Tech: tg: not sure but I think it's webkit based...?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Workaholic Timeghost Tech: "Safari uses Apple's WebKit for rendering web pages and running JavaScript. WebKit consists of WebCore (based on Konqueror's KHTML engine) and JavaScriptCore (based on KDE's JavaScript engine named KJS)."
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'veren Astardok Tech: yeah, googling it now - webkit based, webkit being a fork of khtml
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Workaholic Timeghost Tech: Safari is KHTML based :P
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: in other words, i'll just have to tell a safari user tough nuts :P
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'veren Astardok Tech: not technically accurate
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'veren Astardok Tech: but somewhat close
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Workaholic Timeghost Tech: Astardock - agreed, but I know what KHTML can do - I use Konqueror most of the time
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'veren Astardok Tech: ahh, okay =)
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Workaholic Timeghost Tech: it's very stable and cool, but in terms of all the fancy iframe-moves-here-so-you-fill-this-and-magic-happens it's as advanced as nail dirt
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'veren Astardok Tech: SP: if you tell safari users tough nuts, you'll also have to tell Google Chrome users tough nuts as it's also webkit based
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Workaholic Timeghost Tech: which is cool for me - if a web site doesn't work in KHTML I mostly turn around and leave :)
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Workaholic Timeghost Tech: there should always be a clean site, all the extras of "this can slide here, look!" must be optional
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: True, that.
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Workaholic Timeghost Tech: a few years ago tons of sites essentially TOLD you that you either enter with IE or not at all - fine for me
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: i know what i got works for 99% of people, so i'll leave it alone and not muff with it anymore. 
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Workaholic Timeghost Tech: either your web site is not important OR you're a business that doesn't give a crap about customers - if you did, you'd make sure everyone would find the site usable, even if you have to create 3 versions of it
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: someday i might learn xml or something that'd bridge that gap. i can barely squeeze the basic html into my head without spillage :P
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Workaholic Timeghost Tech: same goes for Flash - I turned off Flash plugins on purpose. If a web site tells me "you don't have flash so you can't do anything here at all" - well, I leave :P
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Workaholic Timeghost Tech: and btw, most sites which tell you to use IE or such to "get the full experience" aren't W3C compliant - but nor is IE of course
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: the next thing i wanna do is make a screen-reader friendly version
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Workaholic Timeghost Tech: sounds fun SP :)
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Workaholic Timeghost doesn't know much about screen reader technologies :/
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: the downside of tables and frames is screen readers puke on it half the time
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: at least the one i've been test using hasn't been having luck with it...but i think i'm intentionally trying to screw it up so i can see what it can't do
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Workaholic Timeghost Tech: well, if browsers shit themselves on seeing iframes in iframes in iframes that try to do heck knows what ,I bet a screen reader will have problems...
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: i took a step backwards though and made it simpler, so i should be able to make it 100% good without making more than one version of the page
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: my favorite bit outta Html 3.2 and above is the cancellation of the <BLINK></BLINK> tag.
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: as a joke you can force html 2.0 on a page and make every 3rd word blink on 100 lines of text and see how many seizures you can cause
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone tell me how i can force vista to delete a registry key?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: "system mechanic"?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: http://www.lmgtfy.com/q?=delete+registry+key+vista
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: smells like a broken link
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: typo in my script. swap q and ?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well a google search really isn't any help, you realise
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: typical nannying m$ won't let you delete a registry key, even if you're an administrator
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: can't you just manually get rid of it?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: this -is- manually getting rid of it
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: e.g. booting linux and nuking it from there. where does it keep the stuff?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you can't edit a windows registry from linux
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I think it's possible, just not immediately obvious. The registry is a file on the disk after all, isn't it?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Workaholic Timeghost Tech: technically that is incorrect. It's all somewhere in files, so nothing prohibits you from editing it in Linux
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you can on any windows before vista
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Komrad Kessel Tech: os fanboys, how boring..best os is the one fit for purpose, the company who coded it is irrelevant
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Komrad Kessel Tech: much like fanboys
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: there's nothing technically to stop you from ripping off your own leg and clubbing yourself to death with it either, but to all practical purposes, you can't
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Workaholic Timeghost Tech: care to explain WHY I can't? If I had Vista I'd actually go and find a way, but alas, maybe you'll tell me they encrypt it or something?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I honestly don't know, I've never seen where the Vista registry is kept.
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Kessel: feel free to discuss something else on the channel.
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Workaholic Timeghost Tech: there's no black magic, it has to be kept on disk :P
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: I don't know Vista but it could be a proprietary datat base
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Workaholic Timeghost Tech: nothing 'proprietary' or even 'patented' ever stopped reverse-engineering :P
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: he needs a solution in a timely manner
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Workaholic Timeghost Tech: moreover, it's not illegal in most cases either - i.e. look at OpenOffice happily reading/writing documents in many M$ formats
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm really not interested, timeghost, myopic has it down accurately
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Workaholic Timeghost Tech: Tigernuts, you said "it's impossible". I asked you to give a single answer to "why?" - you failed to produce one.
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Workaholic Timeghost Tech: which just leads me to believe you have no clue where the registry is stored yourself
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: perhaps he had better things to do in the meantime
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Workaholic Timeghost Tech: which doesn't make it "impossible" - only for you perhaps
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: such as some work
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'veren Astardok Tech: guys, guys - check this URL: "http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/260/xp_vista_backup_restore_registry/" - backup the registry to .reg file(s), edit those by hand, then re-import them
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: how about "practically impossible"
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Workaholic Timeghost Tech: Tigernuts - how about "no, unless you know WHY" :)
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'veren Astardok Tech: that's not a preferred method of doing registry editing, but that is something you can try if you're desperate
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Workaholic Timeghost beams with pride at Ta'veren Astardok.
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm not going to entertain your baiting, timeghost, lest i tell you what i really think and then you go blahing to lasher about me
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'veren Astardok Tech: ...just, if you don't know what you're doing and you mess something up because Vista was blocking your changes for a reason, don't complain to me afterwards :P
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Talk about baiting.
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: talking aboot defensive :P
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: suggest backup of the backup
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: why i like linux - #rm -rf / and it doesn't question or stop you
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Workaholic Timeghost Tech: realistically, how long does a SSD disk live?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: longer than the one with moving parts
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no idea, really. only owned one and it got stolen in germany
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but it was working fine for a month
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Workaholic Timeghost Tech: I mean if one is the only drive in, say, your laptop - the flash-based thing has about 100'000 writes per sector in its life I read at some point, but it's a very vague way to start any estimate...
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Opian Tech: How do you adjust the pagelength listed in config?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: listed in config
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Opian Tech: In my delirium, I asked...I figured it out. Sorry.
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: anyone wanna help me setup TF
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: tf?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: tinyfuge
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: i would if i knew how that worked. why not mush? its alot more powerful.
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: how?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: on mac?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: tf is very powerful
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: i seek your forgiveness, i've never been on a mac
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: well i do know you have something called wine
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: why use wine when you can use tf? :)
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: you make it sound good, i'm checking tf out xD
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: mm is it possible to set a global constant variable in mush? like a variable that will apply across the board in aliases?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: i was wondering the same thing
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: i've been trying to find a way to do it ~_~
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: me also for my speedwalks
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daimbert Tech: Oh, out of curiosity, is there a way to get tf for mac if you don't have developer's tools installed and can't compile it yourself?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aranair Tech: oh i just found the way darkknowing
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: Daimbert: http://mac.wareseeker.com/Games/tinyfugue-40s1.zip/324056
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: please enlighten me Aranair
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daimbert Tech: Thanks!
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: is there a way to tell if a variable is a table in lua?, if there's one item returned from this function it returns a string more then one it's returning a table,  screwing up my #(var)
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: after you do the flushdns, try google again
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondegon Tech: it was successfully flushed the dns
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondegon Tech: still cannot connect
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondegon Tech: so what else do i do
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: next thing we'll try is changing your DNS servers to some public ones...go to control panels, to network connections
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondegon Tech: ok
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in network connections, right-click your network card, and go to properties
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondegon Tech: alright
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: double-click on Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondegon Tech: where is taht
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is the top part "Obtain an IP address automatically"?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the properties for your network connection, there should be 3 tabs, General, Authentication and Advanced...it should have been under GEneral when you opened it
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondegon Tech: wait when you said click on your internet card was that in network connections local area connection
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are you using wireless, or are you directly connected to a router?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondegon Tech: directly connected
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then yeah, local area connection
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondegon Tech: k
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right-click that and do properties
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondegon Tech: i got it but i only have two tabes
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondegon Tech: i mean tabs
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it should be on General, with a box in the middle "This connection uses the following items"
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondegon Tech: ok i see it
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: double-click Internet Protocol
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondegon Tech: got it
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that should be divided into 2 sections...is the top automatically?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondegon Tech: yes
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, we're going to change the bottom to "Use the following DNS server addresses"
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondegon Tech: alright
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondegon Tech: what do i put in
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the preferred box, put 4.2.2.1, and in the alternate one, put 4.2.2.2
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondegon Tech: click ok?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, click OK a couple times, then try google again
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondegon Tech: still doesnt work :(
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do you have up to date antivirus software?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondegon Tech: not sure
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondegon Tech: how do i see
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondegon Tech: abelinc are you there
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to start, to your programs, and look for something that sounds like it's an antivirus software...symantec, mcaffey, fprot, CA
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondegon Tech: nothing there
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondegon Tech: what do you want me to do
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in your browser, instead of google, type/paste 64.233.161.99
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: see if that brings up google
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondegon Tech: nope
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and this is the only computer in the house?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondegon Tech: my moms laptop but she doesnt let me get on it
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how long has Internet explorer been broken on this one?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondegon Tech: since my sister got on myspace which was last year
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondegon Tech: in the summer
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: wow
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: looks like you've gotten a virus that took out i.e.
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondegon Tech: do you know how to fix it
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you didn't think that it would be a good thing to get fixed in the last 6 months?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondegon Tech: im only 13 i dont know
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, have you told your parents that it doesn't work?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondegon Tech: yup w
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delgar Tech: Try going to Windows Update and see if IE can reach Microsoft.
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondegon Tech: where is that
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordaki Tech: Is there an MCCP proxy for macs?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes mordaki
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordaki Tech: or perhaps a client with MCCP built in?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delgar Tech: Start->All Programs->Windows Update
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tinyfugue's got mccp built in, you can also run mushclient in parallels
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delgar Tech: It probably won't work, but worh a try.
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondegon Tech: nope cant connect to windows update
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordaki Tech: I run a g4, so I can't run parallels so I'll give tinyfugue a try, thank you!
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: next thing I'd try would be to download firefox using a different computer when you can (whether mom's or at school)
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can run virtualPC :-)
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordaki Tech: but VPC is quite expensive :)
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's free
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: been free for a couple years now
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondegon Tech: where do you get it
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordaki Tech: Microsoft's vpc?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondegon Tech: yea
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: virtual box is free
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: armondegon, firefox you'd get from www.firefox.com...the virtualpc comment was for mordaki
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: microsofts one blows
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondegon Tech: oh
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: menace, not an option
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordaki Tech: I heard the opposite...
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondegon Tech: so i really have no chance of getting it to work
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: i guess i havent used microsofts vpc in awhile, but when i did it was ridiculously bad (about a year ago)
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: vmware fusion (30 dollars) is nice for mac
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: if you want full emulation
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: menace, this is NOT an intel Mac
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: oooooooooooo
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordaki Tech: ya g4 powerbook
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's why I said it's not an option
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: my fault
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daimbert Tech: TinTin works with mccp.
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondegon Tech: yea exept that i live in a very small town about 3 hours away from the nearest city with a big store
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: armondegon, basically fixing this will likely require you to use another computer, so it won't be a "right now" thing
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondegon Tech: alright
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delgar Tech: Do you have the MS install disk?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 2 things to download when you have the chance are an antivirus program and firefox
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but you should really work on getting your parents to fix it
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delgar Tech: You could try uninstalling IE and then reinstalling it.
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondegon Tech: where do i do that
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondegon Tech: and my mom doesnt know how to fix it
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondegon Tech: and my dads just a mechanic
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordaki Tech: I know its none of my business, but what's wrong armondegon? Maybe I could help
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondegon Tech: which is cool because he taught me how to take apart an engine and put it back together
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delgar Tech: Start->Control Panel, then double click Add or Remove Program
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mordaki, tech -h has a pretty good amount on what's wrong ;-)
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delgar Tech: Once the program comes up, click on Add/Remove Windows Components on the left side panel.
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondegon Tech: now what
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delgar Tech: Another window will pop up and you uncheck the box next to IE.
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondegon Tech: it is going
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delgar Tech: Click ok and you will probably want to reboot.
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondegon Tech: how do i do that
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how do you reboot?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delgar Tech: Once it comes back up, go back through the same steps and re-select the box next to IE.
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: reboot is restart
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondegon Tech: i know i sound pretty dumb about commputers but i havent learned this stuff in computers yet
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delgar Tech: No prob.
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondegon Tech: oooohhhh
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: at least you follow directions
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondegon Tech: alright i will be back in a minute
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delgar Tech: Make sure you have this written down so you can go back through.
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondegon Tech: i am back
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nicah Tech: i am legend
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Muesli Tech: i am not amused
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: did it work ?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondegon Tech: do i try I.E
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Did you not just remove it?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondegon Tech: oh yea i did
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondegon Tech: do i reinstall it
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod armondegon
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondegon Tech: it is reinstalled
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondegon Tech: and it still doesnt work
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delgar Tech: Armondegon, I think this is going to take someone with direct access to your computer to fix the issue.
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondegon Tech: so i cant do naything right now
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Well to be fair, you've tried a lot and done well with that
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondegon Tech: thanks
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delgar Tech: Nothing else that I can think of short of re-installing the OS which isn't for a beginner to try.
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondegon Tech: alright
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Certainly compared to a lot of people your age who would have thrown a hissy fit after two minutes
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondegon Tech: well my brother jym knows alot about computers so next time he is on just tell him that you talked with me and hell try
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Delgar nods at Remind Hargreaves.
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can try downloading firefox and an antivirus program at school, but you'd need a way to get it to this computer...either burning to CD or a flash drive
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondegon Tech: i know how to do taht
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: some things that take down Internet browsers only affect MS's IE but leave firefox alone...installing that may restore some functionality
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondegon Tech: ok
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondegon Tech: quest time
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondegon Tech: quest complete
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kikkoman Tech: is there a way to add the map to the normal main window in the aardwolf MUSH client?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, use the "miniwindows" version of the automap plugin
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: miniwindows
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: nods abe
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kikkoman Tech: ah thanks=)
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but the miniwindows feature was added to mushclient slightly after the aardmush was released, so you've got to download a newer mushclient
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kikkoman Tech: I see, ill check for the newest version. Thanks
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=9264 is version 4.40 (4.33 is what ships from aard iirc)
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: i have 4.34 i thought. some of the plugins require 4.34
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, that's because 4.34 was the one that has miniwindows ;-)
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so if you've updated to that, you should be OK for the miniwindows automap plugin
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: it has automap already didn't need to install anything
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: miniwindow rather
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not the miniwindows automap tho
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: yes it does
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: im looking at it right now
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not from the aard download, no
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: YOU might have it, but the stock one doesn't
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: i dont recall downloading it seperate but i may have
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what is downloaded from aard's site puts the automap in a totally separate window, hence the question ;-)
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: zmud mappers... do you save your whole map into one file?  Or do you break it up?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: I put each area into it's own zone if thats what you mean
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: not quite... i was noticing on a former mud that my map was starting to take a really long time to load.   Aardwolf is a lot bigger than that place.  I was just wondering if there was a more efficient way to structure things
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: not sure if there's anything besides using cmud you can do about the load time
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: compress map db's every so often :P bbl
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: i got a script that is messed up... its a leveling script for MUSH that sends the message to gtell but it isn't displaying the numbers for how many moves/trains/pracs etc. i'm getting i uninstalled it and reinstalled it but it still isn't fixed.... any ideas?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avalist Tech: spellup plugins. Anyone have one for mushclient?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torghay Tech: Anyone on here play UT99 before?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: anyone here familiar with the workings of MUSHclient and can help me?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: i'll try, what do you need?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go ahead and ask the question :-)
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: im trying to get the client to replace a letter and send a command with a target...for example i want to type 'b ant' and the client should send 'backstab ant'
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, game -> configure -> aliases
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: at the very top, put "b *"
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the big box, put "backstab %1"
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: why %1?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: %1 means "the first * in the pattern"
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: im assuming * is wildcard :D %1 means?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: the first *
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for that one, I'd just use aard's alias though
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just type "alias  b backstab" and it'll work
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: after doing that alias,i type alias b backstab? or 'b ant' like i want?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: b ant
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd type b ant
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: i see. for spellups of others i can do the same thing right? stack a lot of spells with the * and %1 to do it?
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: thanks! your a great help
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: at the top put "spellother *", then in the bottom "c shield %1" <hit enter> "c armor %1", etc
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the guy that wrote MUSHclient itself wrote an advanced spellup script that includes spelling up others
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feiros Tech: any way to make typing "b a" to attack whatever is in the room? played a mud way way back where you could type kill all to attack whatever was first in the room
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: yep thats what i figured to do abelinc :D hanks
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use an area attack
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feiros Tech: but if I wanna backstab? =) just asking..doesnt matter that much
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can't backstab "all", since you can't be in combat
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feiros Tech: not all like in everyone..the first target in a room
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, interesting definition of all, but no
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the 'a' in that case was probably short for any :-)
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feiros Tech: might have been =)
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OldThooven Tech: does anyone know if the must client can use the g15 keyboard
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OldThooven Tech: mush client even
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's just a program...it'll use whatever the OS uses
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OldThooven Tech: ok
T1/r5/2009-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OldThooven Tech: thanks
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for the alias, I believe you'd need to change the "send to" part to execute, to tell MUSHclient that it's got to process
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: That is correct
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: huh?
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: too stupid
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dark, game -> configure -> aliases
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: ok not that stupid
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: toward the bottom of the window when you make one, there's a "Send to" part
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: normally it's world, but you want it to be execute
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: not finding that
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you clicked to add an alias?
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Darkknowing nods.
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's the first thing after the HUGE white part
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: so just unselect it?
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a drop-down, I just told you what to set it to
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: there is no drop down
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: nvm i see it now
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: so what would i do now? what would i make the alias too i mean
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm actually gonna ask for Rath's input on the syntax for how to call the alias...I'd guess %aliasname, but not sure as I don't use mush
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Otani Tech: what are you trying to make an alias for?
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just a quaff alias, but using variable for potion name
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: to get potion for container and quaff. but i want it so that is variable
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Just use the matching text - just like you would type it into the prompt
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: get <foo> bag and quaff <foo>
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rath, there's nothing matching, looking for variable reference
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: <foo>?
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Otani Tech: you would use this: alias text would be qp *
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no otani
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Otani Tech: and send to would be quaf %1
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the goal is to type "heal" or similar
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: NOT to type "heal something"
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try to keep up boys :P
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the only question is, what is the syntax to use a NAMED variable in an execute send
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Otani Tech: you could just set a variable with whatever name you want the particular potion to be at the time
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's the plan, otani
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Otani Tech: it should just be %variablename
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're not getting to the ONLY thing we're looking to find
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: named var from regex or named var from MUSHclient?
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: thank you, that's what I clearly asked before
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: thats not what i want tho. i dont want to change the alias every time
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rath, mush
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik sits down and thinks deeply. 
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right dark, you change the VARIABLE every time
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I don't know how to get a variable from MUSHclient with using a script command
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: i want it to the point i type heal and it gets the healing potion and quaffs it regardless of the healing potion itseld
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so should have a variable heal_potion and a variable mana_potion
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: without*
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then the alias knows to use that
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: so again when i change what potion i am using i have to modify the alias 
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Otani Tech: no you dont
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no dark
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Otani Tech: you just modify the value of the variable
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: o now im thoroughly confused
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you change the variable, the alias always uses the variable
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Otani Tech: a variable is, as its name implies, a constant name for a value that can be changed
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: let's give this a try, dark...in the Edit Alias window, put just "heal" in the top thin part...
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: o just forget it, im too stupid to get it anyways
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Otani Tech: so as long as you use the same variable NAME (not VALUE) then you dont have to change the alias
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the huge white part, put g %heal_potion <hit enter to go to another line> quaff %heal_potion, and make sure the Send to is set to Execute
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then go to game -> configure -> variables, and make a heal_potion variable, with a keyword of your heal potion (jade)
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then try typing heal and see if it works
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik frowns.
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: No, this won't work
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rath, then tell us the syntax for a named variable
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: %var_name only refers to regex variables
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: grr, don't make me actually run the program just to answer a simple question that people using it should answer off the top of their heads
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I don't know how to get a variable without using a scripting language
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: dont worry about it seriously ill live without it
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: And using a scripting language opens up a bigger problem
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: seriously, try it, dark
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: it worked except for the fact that is says i dont have that in satchel but when i look in satchel its there. and its spelled right
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torghay Tech: it might have a different name than the description?
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: i put description as "jade"
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Otani Tech: mushclient is far too complex for its own good..
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torghay Tech: Ill butout
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: without quotes
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Otani Tech: its just far easier to type "heal <name of potion>" and have the script catch the name and use it
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: @var_name references a variable name in an alias in MUSH, btw
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use eal_potion instead of %heal_potion
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Within the alias/trigger window, that is
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Ohhh
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik thanks Leinei heartily.
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Otani Tech: well there ya go then
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Make sure you have the "expand variables" box checked, too
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Otani Tech: it would be eal_potion, not %heal_potion
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Otani Tech: bah
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hehe, oops...@heal_potion
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: still same message i think ill listen to Otani on this one
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aard eats a single @ and the next character after it ;-)
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: and if you get lucky displays pretty colors!
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I tested it telnetting to my BSD box and it worked perfectly using the variable
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: would i put %heal_potion instead?
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, use @heal_potion
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the big white part of the Edit Alias box
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: so this get eal_potion sat/nquaff eal_potion 
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: it ate the (at)
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: doesnt work
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you check 'expand variables' on the right-hand side?
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you did create the heal_potion variable, right?
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: nope its working now
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do the same for mana :-)
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: forget to check the box stupid me
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: what should i name mana as?
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Otani Tech: whatever mana potion youve been using
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: no the alias command. instead of heal what should i use
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the Aliases window, highlight "heal", click copy, then click paste...then edit one of them for mana
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: whatever you want to type...mana would work
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: ok
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's for you to use/type, so there's no right/wrong
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: i just wanted advice on a keyword to use that wont cause issues with anything else
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do this on a channel in the future :P
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bah, mis
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the way we wrote it, the alias will only work if that word is the only thing you type on the line, so it messing up other stuff shouldn't usually be an issue
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you type "heal me", it won't fire the alias, but will send "heal me" to the MUD
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: ok, thanks everyone. think i got it sorted out. now on the same think if im making aliases for runto and i add a variable like "d" from clan recall to aylor how do i add it in without adding @unto_alt before each alias
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so if you ever need to type just "heal", you can type " heal" or "heal " and it won't do the alias (for instance, looking for what to type at a healer)
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: any idea?
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I wrote my speedwalks to be modular...so speedwalks starting at recall start by doing a "/recall", and I can redefine that to be "recall", "g can bag ; wear can ; enter can", or "use amulet of aard ; down" as need be
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: what if the aliases are already written? without a variable
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since you've already got stuff, then have your runto start with the down before calling the area alias
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: well my aliases are speed walks so if i type ft1 it runs run 6sues  how do i make it so that it adds "down" at the beggining of this one and all the others
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: without going and adding variables to them all
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, it won't know the difference between "ft1" and the "heal" that we just made...there's nothing that tells MUSH that it's a speedwalk
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: so go back and add variables
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so even if you could do it easily, it'd break stuff
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, it's best to always write things modularly
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: thats alot of work i have most of the areas already written in
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for instance, for reman conspiracy, if you write it to use the reme speedwalk first, and then finish the run...then when you can use the reme portal, you change the reme speedwalk to use it and conspiracy will automatically update
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: going over my head again. ill just go back and add variable before you make me go crazy trying to figure it out
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my area speedwalks have multiple forms...areaname-noportal (from recall), areaname-amulet (aardhotel), areaname-otherarea-portal (nearby areas w/portals), and areaname-portal
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: yeha im not that advanced
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: yeah*
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then the alias for just areaname without a -suffix changes depending on what I have available at the time
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you use the send to execute, and have a line in the big Send box that is one of your aliases, then it'll call that alias
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so if you did an alias of "bothpotions", and had the send be "heal <enter> mana", and had it send to execute, it would do both of the aliases that you just made
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's how you can start abstracting things
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: one last question. how do i add colors in a trigger that had variables in it?
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: well, ask specifically what the character to escape stuff is? you can probably find it under settings somewhere too
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: if i have a variable in a trigger such as (at)catchtell_reason. how would i add colors? since the mush uses (at) to show a variable and aard uses it for colors
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I think if you have the "expand variables" box checked, you can do a @@ to send a @ to Aardwolf from within an alias, but I won't promise you that.
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: ok let me try
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: ok thanks it worked
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei goes: "No Problem!"
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zakuro Tech: anyone knows how do i make the bigmap NOT to appear in the first place when i load Aard's MUSH client?
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: blah. have reinstall windows again...
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: using zmud, is it possible to add another layer to the status bar? or maybe add a second ?
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: anyone know how to fix a script thats gotten messed up? i tried uninstalling it and reinstalling it but it still don't work
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: you'll need to be more specific than that
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: anyone able to talk me through setting up TF
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: it is a script for MUSHclient that when i level it tells the stats for that level... how many pracs/trains/ etc. i get from the level but it isn't showing the actual numbers next to pracs/ trains/ or anything else
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: what issues are you having huckleberry?
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: i doesnt work lol
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: you probably want something like "/addworld -Tlp aardwolf aardmud.com 4000" in your .tfrc file
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: one sec ill get the exact error
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: http://dramaticent.com/Start_TinyFugue_4.0s1-20090322-102346.jpg
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: thats when i just open it
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: looks like some sort of shell script error
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: try going to command line and entering "tf -n"
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: now it just says no world
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: it probably will do, as you haven't set up .tfrc yet
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: add the line i gave you earlier into your .tfrc file, and try it again
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: ("tf -n" means start tinyfugue but don't connect to a world yet)
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: I'm trying to create a gauge for health In Zmud, anyone can help me out a bit
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, www.not-porn.com/Aardwolf
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's one already done
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: Thanks
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: i believe that whether 1 is prime or not is just a minor technical detail
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: crap, this shoudl have gone to gt :P
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: comes down to definition, randor, it's not prime
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tigernuts, comes down to which definition is being used
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: oh god, now i spread the virus to tech, too :P
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: there is only one definition
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, there isn't
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: there is only one mathematically correct definition
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yes
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: is there a place in mush client that i can change the font of what i am typing?  somehow it changed...
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: can anyone tell me how to make "chats echo off" stay so i don't have to enter it everytime i log onto aard in mushclient?
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: after typing it, try file -> save world details
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: tried that. doesn't stick
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huie Tech: Im pretty new myself but could you do a trigger that types it on the loading screen text?
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: that's an idea worth trying.
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: you have to edit the chats plugin, there are two places that say echos = true, change it to echos = false
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try going to file -> plugins, edit Aardwolf_chats
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to OnPluginConnect
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: ok. i can trigger the "chats echo off" to go to the command line at load, but how do i get it to exectute it?
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: don't use a trigger
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: edit the plugin file
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: where? and what?
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: file->plugins->aardwolf chats plugin
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: ok. and what do i edit there?
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: there is two spots that say echo = true, change it to echo = false
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: ok. reconnecting. brb
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: thank you so much! you are the first person to actually be able to tell me what to do
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: your welcome
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Drachon enthusiastically high-fives Immanuel!
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rithlin Tech: Hrmm, I'm seeing wierd feedback from channels and spells how do I turn that off?
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Type "tags off"
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rithlin Tech: Heh thanks that worked....
T1/r5/2009-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: why would photoshop want me to close ff for the installation? :\
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: http://philosecurity.org/2009/03/23/pirates-and-ninjas-emacs-or-vi
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phimos Tech: Is there a way to resize the text in the 'chats' window for the client?
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: click on the chats window Game->Configure->Output, change to suit
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: aard mushclient
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrrth Tech: i noticed on the aardwolf website that they had an image of the mushclient set up for aardwolf. I was wondering how to make my mushclient look like the image did with the multiple windows and all?
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: download the aardwolf mushclient from the web site
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phimos Tech: ok, thanks
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrrth Tech: i didn't see where to actually download that
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: front page -> Play Now link
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: Anyone here got skills with Drupal? Trying to force a view to only display one item
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: probably better off asking on drupal.org
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chosig rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: Trying that too... Aarder's is a tad more responsive :P
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Anyone have any experience mounting NTFS USB drives in Etch Debian?
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: It shows up under lsusb and lshal, but I can't find it in /dev/
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: dmesg should tell you where its at on /dev
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: dmesg | grep 'usb' doesn't return anything
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: just unplug your usb, plug it in, type dmesg and see what the last messages are
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Hrm, it references a bunch of different devices. Says it's mounting USB as SCSI CDROM :P
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gonf snickers softly.
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Mainly references it as sda, but then I can't mount it as that :P
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: right, problaby sda1, sda2 etc
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: try type "mount /dev/sda" then tab
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: or sdb, sdc
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the # is the partition. you want to mount an usb drive?
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Yeah, Dagnir.
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: yeah, she's trying to mount her usb drive
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Installing NTFS-3g now, to see if that helps
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: yeah, its what I have on my redhat box
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: why? usb drives are fat32
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon looks at Seltsimees Dagnir and goes "Hmmmm."
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: not if they're formatted ntfs :p
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Not all are :P
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Though maybe I'll try fat32 :P
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, but yours probably isn't
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: just #mount /dev/sdtab /media/usb
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that's /sd<tab>
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: anyhow, I mount my ntfs usb drive with ntfs-3g /dev/sda2 /mnt/external-disk
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: thats if you're using the ntfs 3g drivers
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you don't have hald or something running?
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Yeah, I do
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and it doesn't automount?
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Nope.
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: not for ntfs
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: No, and doesn't mount without specifying fs type either.
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir peers intently at Tigernuts.
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: he's been quiet the whole time. that's amazing
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Sweet, got it.
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Ended up using vfat like you said, Dagnir. And using the correct sda :P
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what was it then?
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: just wrong device?
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Both, wrong device and wrong type.
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Everything I found when Googling said I should be using ntfs-3g
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon shrugs helplessly.
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: heh. it was hdb/hdc?
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Nah, it was /dev/sda1
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Now I just need to figure out how to have it automount :P
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, right. confused the letters with disk drives
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: #nano /etc/fstab
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: or #vim. what ever floats your boat
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hald should take care of it tho
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Heh. I'm an emacs type.
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm nano type, since i use dvorak keyboard and it's a pain to remap the thing for my needs
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: What do I need under <dump> and <pass> ?
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Hehe, I love Dvorak.
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: For a non-native FS type, 0 for both should be peachy.
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Cool, thanks.
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Or anything else, really, but it probably won't affect anything.
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: And just rw under <options>, right?
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: dvorak is awesome. once you get used to it, there is no way back
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon rapidly nods twice at Seltsimees Dagnir, in complete agreement.
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Depends on what options the mount program wants.
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: When I mount it manually I don't have to use any options
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Dagnir, do you know if there's an easy way to set up multiple keyboard layouts in Etch?
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no, not really. if you use gnome, you can set up a combination to change the layout tho
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: otherwise you could alias the xmodmap commands
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: I don't... I don't actually use any windowing system. :P
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Erikson, so just "defaults" under <options>?
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i had trouble mounting chuft the other weekend
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: try some linux channel on irc. but don't ask them how to do it, just start talking about how easy it is to do with windows and you get a good solution out of them
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: rw presumably, but if you don't need any other options manually, you may not in fstab either.
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: if you have pix I can give pointers
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon snickers with Seltsimees Dagnir about their shared secret.
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: (it ends up being somewhat sensitive to details of the mount program etc, but it stands a fair chance of just working)
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'd just set up hald properly. does all the work for you
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Alright, thanks all :)
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raisk, Argen Tech: can one determine if an audio file was compressed using vbr or cbr?
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raisk, Argen Tech: or, how can one :p
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: scripting for aard-mush: i have a script that is supposed to read all entries from "saf" command. but its like it goes to fast for it or something... it doesn't grab them all... any ideas?
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: no scripterz on tonight?
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malynx Tech: i am getting this under my prompt how do i get rid of it? {stats}28/26,37/31,28/26,27/26,28/26,31/26,85,34,69,42,34,You are Standing.,9999,429/504,226/650,629/906,28232,87,0,2500,446,27,5
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infected Inicus Tech: Type statmon
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malynx Tech: thanks so much
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malynx Tech: ok similar question i getthis before every channel {chan ch=newbie},how do i get rid of that?
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infected Inicus Tech: Tags off
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feiros Tech: did you disable triggers..all that happened to me when I did that
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: ok question -- in mushclient -- want to set a variable off of a trigger... like if when i type "saf" and it shows "Skill   : Shadow form (123:123)" i want it to set the variable "skills_shadow" to 1. for use later in another script... any help?
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: wow i can't believe that there are no peepz on tonight that don't know mushclient
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taemyr Tech: SetVariable ("Skill_%1", "1")
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: would that be in the "trigger" window? or should i actually write a "function" for each skill/spell?
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: pretty sure you'll end up needing to write a function that the trigger calls, that sets your variables
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: i wouldn't write one for each skill/spell, but a blanket one that'd capture them
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taemyr Tech: the trigger needs to be a script.  But that is OK.  you need to capture shadow with %1.
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You can do it without writing a script function, actually.
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: that is what i am trying to do... i want to set everything in my "saf" to 1, so that i can turn around and recast everything that is 0. know what i mean?
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: you can do it all in the trigger window
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Put whatever you want to save to the variable in the big white part.
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taemyr Tech: Yes leinei, but then I think you would need a seperate trigger for each spell
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: And in the "variable" field, type the name of the variable
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Oh, you're varying the name of the variable based on what is captured?
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taemyr Tech: yes.
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Oh, in that case, nods, you'll end up having to write a script function.
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: (or if you're saving to a table variable, as well)
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Unless you want to make a seperate trigger for every function, that is.
T1/r5/2009-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: for every spell, rather
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: how do i adjust trigger sound volume in mush?
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fennec Tech: Any suggestion for a good MUD client?
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: mushclient, zmud, tinyfugue
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fennec Tech: How about one that runs on Vista and is as close to zMud as possible?
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: mushclient then
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: as close to zmud as possible would be cmud, but.. mush -shrug-.. either, or :P
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fennec Tech: Okay, I'm on MUSH Client... seems okay so far. :)
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fennec Tech: Setting triggers/aliases back up, testing... etc...
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fennec Tech: Anyone familiar with MUSH client?
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: just ask your question
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fennec Tech: I'm trying to figure out a way to do a split-screen scrollable output window. Is it possible?
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fennec Tech: Well, I've split my screen... just need to figure out how to get the output on it...
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: 5mil to anyone who can give me a valid download link for an Eltron TPL 2642 printer driver, free download that is...
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Denglish Tech: Grae, do you mean TLP?
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: yeah sorry
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Denglish Tech: What OS?
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: win xp
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: clearly you have all googled and are just sending me tells with the first 5 links...
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: sounds like a great plan to me
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: great plan to achieve nothing so far...
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WeaponGuy Tech: You couldn't do that yourself? Shameful.
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: i did that and had no success but thank you captain obvious...
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: tried the manufacturers page?
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: discontinued since 99
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: driver downloads are a pain, but where else could you find them than from a search engine?
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Grae shrugs helplessly.
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: the first page of results are either all links to driverguide.com which is a pay site, or links to download driver detective
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: anyway, printers are the worst thing to install
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: unless you use linux. then they just work
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: grae is that an older printer or something?
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: how do I make the bigmap in mushclient persistant? I don't like the fact that it opens and closes, I just want it to be open all the time
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wow, big monitor ;-)
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type bigmap auto off
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: yeah i have a 215 tw widescreen for gaming
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what is a 215tw?
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: samsung syncmaster 215 tw
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: how big is that, then?
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: 21 inches
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ain't exactly huge, then
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: can tell abe's easily pleased ;-)
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and how would me commenting without knowing the monitor lead you to that conclusion, nutjob? :P
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: more of an optical illusion really - only an inch extra on eithr side
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: Honestly, Abelinc Tech: wow, big monitor ;-)
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: The name Nutjob is available for use.
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Habasi peers at you intently. 
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tigernuts, look at the timestamp, dumbass :P
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and...
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: mellow out children: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PD_Ji4yAuyc
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and, the comment was before the model of monitor was mentioned
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bit daft of you saying it's big before it was mentioned then, wasn't it?
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's what she said
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: how do you get mushclient to close a window - like the stats window, which I don't use?
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infected Inicus Tech: Click file, plugins.. then disable the Aardwolf_Stats plugin
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: can you buy moded PS2s and play free games etc?
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LupoSol Gregor Tech: probably, ps2 games are so cheap nowadays anyway
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: free is cheaper - hence the modded part
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LupoSol Gregor Tech: Perhaps there are ps2 emulators up to scratch also
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: not that i heard
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LupoSol Gregor Tech: even free-er
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LupoSol Gregor Tech: I had a psx1 emulator running ok
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: i heard the emulators kind of suck wang
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LupoSol Gregor Tech: that was a few years ago, figured by now someone might have coded a half decent ps2 emulator
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: trying to leverarch a GTX295 into a quad-core pc for under a grand
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: leverarch - what does that mean?
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: for leverarch, see shoehorn
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: I go on HardOCP.com for building and overclocking
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the i7 route isn't possible
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: given the gfx card is nearly half the budget, might have to settle for a mid-range cpu
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phimos Tech: How do I make 'multi-command aliases' in the client?
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what client?
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: THE client
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phimos Tech: The Aardwolf mushclient...
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phimos Tech: downloadable
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ; should be the standard separator
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: shift+ctrl+9
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phimos Tech: Yes, I know shift+ctrl+9, but how do i seperate the commands to do them in order, one at a time?
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phimos Tech: multi-command aliases
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: tried the solution i offered?
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: In the send box of the alias... type the first thing.. then hit enter.
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phimos Tech: Ok, thanks =D
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: just make two different aliases, and then when you are ready to create a multiline command just seperate them with the semi-colon
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: in brackets
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Or, just do what I said.
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phimos Tech: Ok guys, I have a pretty length question...
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: I'm sure someone will have a short answer.
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: no.
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phimos Tech: I made an alias that has some beneficial cleric skills in it...I want to be able to type the alias and then my target, and then the alias will direct its spells to the target.
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phimos Tech: buy the spells are always casted on me, and not my target
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phimos Tech: but*
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: what client? and plugin?
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: heal *
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phimos Tech: The MUSHclient
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: c 6 %1
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: What does this have to do with heal
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: What is your alias set to right now
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: replace 6 with whatever is on showspell
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phimos Tech: it wont let me say it...it just does the alias lol
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phimos Tech: I have 2 lines of text: the first is 
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Disable your aliases then tell me what it is
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phimos Tech: k...
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: There's a checkbox for Enable Aliases next to the Add button
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phimos Tech: Ok, the alias is called BUFF, and it has two lines of text in the command box:
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phimos Tech: the first is 'cast 5'
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: You need to have it be BUFF *
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Cast 5 %1
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phimos Tech: then 'cast 67'
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Cast 67 %1
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: That's what you need to change =P
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: BUFF *
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Cast 5 %1
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Cast 67 %1
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phimos Tech: So I set the title to buff *, then change the 'cast 67' to 'cast 67 %1' and 'cast 67' to 'cast 67 %1'?
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: That's what it should be
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Yes
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phimos Tech: Ok, thanks a ton =D
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Stick it Inicus goes: "No Problem!"
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: yeah i said all that like 5 min ago
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: No you didn't.. you for some reason thought he was talking about heal.
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: it really doesn't matter, does it?
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: those are all cleric class spells
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: For someone who doesn't even know what a variable is, it matters.
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: heal bless armor , ie. who cares
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phimos Tech: Sorry but...it still doesn't work lol
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: try this webpage: http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?general=aliases
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phimos Tech: ok
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phimos Tech: is '%1' a variable for the aliases? Because if it is, I dont have any variables in my variable menu (from config).
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You don't need any variables set up.  When you're creating a new alias, in the top box, put "buff *" (without the quotes).  In the bottom box, put "cast 57 %1" (without quotes) on the first line, and then "cast 33 %1" on the next line, etc.
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phimos Tech: I did exactly that...
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: And what are you typing to try to use it?
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: on a side tangent, would spellup learned do the same thing?
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phimos Tech: I find a player at recall, then I type "buff <player>" without the quotes.
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Can't use the spellup command to cast spells on others
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: And what message do you get from the mud, Phimos, when you do that?
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: aliases are case-sensitive, unless you tell them otherwise, so if you had "BUFF *" in the top window, and you're typing "buff <player>" to use it, it won't work.
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phimos Tech: no, I changed it to lower case and checked the \\\"ignore case\\\" checkbox.
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: is the output going to the "World" in the drop down box?
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phimos Tech: lemme check
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phimos Tech: yes, \"World\" and sequence 100
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Are you getting a "Sorry, Phimos, you can't do that." (or similar message) when you're trying to use it?
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phimos Tech: No, it just casts the spells on me
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phimos Tech: instead of my target
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phimos Tech: I go into recall, I type 
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phimos Tech: "look"
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Do you have another alias set up that has "buff *" in the top window, and doesn't have any %1's in the bottom window?
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: well if you type buff with no parameters then i would guess it would cast on you
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: but if you typed buff <playername> i can't imagine what's going wrong
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you put %1 in the bottom window in your alias, it sounds like you might have two aliases set up that are conflicting with each other.
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: other than you neglected to put cast <spell#> %1 
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phimos Tech: Title: Buff *
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: e.g. the correct one, and the one without the %1's
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phimos Tech: line 1: cast 5 %1
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phimos Tech: line 2: cast 67 %1
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: That's the only alias you have?
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phimos Tech: Yup
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: and when you type the command in the mud, you type buff Estaban
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phimos Tech: yes, then I get this message:
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phimos Tech: cast 5 
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phimos Tech: cast 5 cast 67 You grant yourself the favor of Ayla. You are already protected
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phimos Tech: thats the message I get
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phimos Tech: Man I g2g =(...guess I'll try again later
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phimos Tech: bye peoples...thanks for the (attempted) help lol
T1/r5/2009-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: take a print screen and paste it in word and send it to nick gammon
T1/r5/2009-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rithlin Tech: Anyone get NeoFryBoy's LevelTracker plugin to work right?
T1/r5/2009-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: anyone use the neofryboy level plugin, get an error with  world.ansinote ansi(32) & ansi(1) & "Total levels gained: " & ansi(36) & ansi(1) & (( - 2) + ( * 1393) + ((2 - 1) * 199))  & ansi(33) & ansi(1) & " (" & ansi(32) & (13930 - (( - 2) + ( * 1393) + ((2 - 1) * 199))) & " to go!" & ansi(33) & ansi(1) & ")"
T1/r5/2009-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morphonius Tech: does anyone here know anything about nintendo gamecube?
T1/r5/2009-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Anyone tried KDE for Windows?
T1/r5/2009-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: anyone use neofly's level tracker for mush?
T1/r5/2009-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rithlin Tech: Couldn't get it to work...
T1/r5/2009-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: yeah me either
T1/r5/2009-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phimos Tech: Remember the alias problem? It was all because one little box that I had checked: 'Regular Expression'
T1/r5/2009-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phimos Tech: it works now =D
T1/r5/2009-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phimos Tech: lol
T1/r5/2009-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: anyone able to get neofryboy's level tracker to wokr in mushclient?
T1/r5/2009-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocamide Tech: anyone real familiar with bibtex?
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: did the %secs function change in cmud?
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: if i have a database variable, in which i've stored keys and values, and i want to get the value of a certain stored key, like "The amusement park", how should i do it?
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: anyone around?
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: yup
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: if i have a database variable, in which i've stored keys and values, and i want to get the value of a certain stored key, like "The amusement park", how should i do it?
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: It's all in the manual... :P you on zmud or cmud?
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: zmud haha
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: #echo bvar.key
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: hmm ok thx
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: #echo @dbvar.key even
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: now i have a db var of keys against values right.. how do i display a pick list in which i select the values to execute?
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: why does selfyne suck?
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Russco Tech: how you get the spellup plugin working with mushclient??
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Russco Tech: anyone here??
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: any cmud users?
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: i need to borrow a math brain for a while send tell if interested
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I'm stuck with Proguard, anyone knows how to fix a VERIFIER ERROR?
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no idea, but this is handy - http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=proguard+verifier+error
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Dagnir: nice joke! :) By the way, I have tried, haven't seen any working solution though.
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: then i can't help you any more
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Thanks. It's a good site to recommend. I'm going to use that for my friends next time :)
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taemyr Tech: in Lua, how do I find how many entries a table have?
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: hmm table.maxn () ?
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: there is a lua online reference, so you can look up these things
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taemyr Tech: it's a dictionary, so the entry keys are not integers.  If I understood maxn right that means that it will simply return 0.
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: Taemyr #(table) perhaps?
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: thats only the table seen as a list also
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: table.getn(table) is deprecated afaik
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Anyone here with a hacked psp?
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lother Tech: Ya
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lother Tech: I have the pandora battery
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: I needed to buy a new memcard, because I lost my old one
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: But now I cant remember how I used to play my games
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lother Tech: what firmware you got?
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: I got the 3.40 OE-A firmware
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Anyone who can help me with my PSP and iso stuff?
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah. it's called google
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik thinks pwning is pwesome.
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: there should be a mountain of step-by-step guides out there
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Google sucks
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gigo
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: so what do you use, then, Kanaye? :P
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: So, anyone who isn't a google fan boy want to help me? xP
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: I use god
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: do you use live search or are you retarded in some other way?
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Ofcourse I use google xP
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Only it's like chaotic on my search :P
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: well, "fan boy" I am not, but I can tell you I use google ALL the time
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: wait. is it chaotic or is it like chaotic?
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: i dunno about psp but I play free games on my Nintendo DS light, it's complicated
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: find a good website is my advice
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: I got that already Estaban xP
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: R4DS ftw
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: wow.... www.psp-hacks.com
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: I tried all that, but I fail
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: is there a way to display poker info in a seperate window?
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: My games to black screen :(
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: well, it looks like "latest and greatest firmware" is dark_alex's 5.00 m33
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: and you said you have 4.3 or something?
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Yup, 3.4 OEM-A
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: upgrade your firmware, retry hacks.
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Drachon P my advice.
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Well, I tried that, but it cant
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Because 3.40 OEM-A is a special firmware
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: So it might be bricked
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: if its bricked just downgrade it to lowest then reinstall all firmware
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Would factory settings work?
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: no...even furhter down
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Ah, let me google on that :P
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Still searching xP
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: darkknowing, if you mean specifically the pokerinfo channel, and not all poker-related stuff (the during-the-game stuff), then it's extremely easy to do, yeah
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: no i meant poker info
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: pokerinfo -h 20
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: the in-game comands
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: take a look at the chats plugin to see what it's already doing to put all channels into one window
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you basically want to do the same thing, but with yet another window, specifically for just the one
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for the stuff you see during gameplay, you'll have to play some games to see a pattern to match on
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: but im too retarded for that. i was hoping there was a simple way to do it
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that is a simple way to do it, but you need patterns
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it is the simple way. you already have the script
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: you want help poker commands, yes? :P
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, he wants to capture the table goings-on to another window
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: i dont even know how to trigger on parts of a line much lets patterns to a whole game
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I haven't played poker here, so I don't know what it looks like to suggest patterns
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: hm, not too hard to do that, really
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to trigger on parts of a line, have it start and end with *
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or click the "regular expression" checkbox
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: well thats really simple
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the default matching "style" in MUSH is "glob", which must match an entire line, start to finish...teh * at the start lets other text go before what you typed to explicitly match...the * at the end does the same for trailing text
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: ahh. that would make it so i can capture my quest info, yes?
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: note that matching part of a line means that it'll trigger when I say over tech channel "this is what you typed to match partially"
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since the stuff before is now told to not matter, and the trailing " was told to not matter
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: well i just need the last part of the stuff
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the * matches any text, no matter how much or little
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can get more specific with regular expressions, but they're more detailed to craft
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and yes, you can capture your quest info that way...put * where the text changes...then in the "body" of the trigger (what you want it to do), you can reference those changing parts (variables) using %1 for the first *, %2 for the second *, etc up to 999 *s
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: yeah that i know lol
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seregil Tech: any ideas here...I'm on dialup and have a pretty good connection.  I lag on aard on the time but I can browse just fine...pretty quickly
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: well there's only 5 million things that could go wrong lol
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: mudding should work find, if the mud is stable. Peeps used to mud on like 1/56th of a 56k modem
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondy Tech: if I have a 8600 gt card that doesn't work and my dad bought it on Ebay I cannot do anything with it?
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seregil Tech: could it be my mushclient.  I have been having some problems with it lately.  Sometimes it just closes out.  But, I'm still connected to the internet
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: well that's perfectly natural, shit happens all the time for muds like that. I've been the same way today
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: people used to use traceroute and ping
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: to ping the server and trace, to see where the connection was lagging like * * * *. I can't even remember how to do that stuff, maybe google for traceroute and ping
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seregil Tech: I tried that awhile back...there were some major delays in texas.
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seregil Tech: like months ago
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seregil Tech: well, I traced it.  Not pinged it
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: it varies from day to day. Maybe today was just a bad day
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seregil Tech: well, it's been like this for 2 months... usually early in the morning like 5 am I have no lag
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: does aardwolf have a forum for tech issues?
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Yep
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Type forum tech
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: yeah i'd post a note on the tech forum here, with what you are dialing in with, and copy and paste your ping and traceroute ( or whatever for diagnostics ). Hopefully someone who is into networking will check it out.
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seregil Tech: I'll do that.  Thanks for your help!
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: those with cable, is there an option to listen to the sound of the modem 
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: What sound?
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: you mean modem?
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it's inaudible
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: erm as in dialup?
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: with dialup, i leave the sound on low -- when the sound changes, there is usually lag for twenty seconds -- i cease typing/sending so i am less likely to be disconnected -- perhaps cable is similar
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cable modems & DSL modems deal with higher frequencies than human hearing
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: you tell em abe
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: megahertz vs kilohertz
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: what if he wants his pet dolphin to hear the sounds
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: is there a visual display option of the cable-modem signal -- to determine whether any lag is from the isp or from an intervening server
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: goto 192.168.100.1
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: maybe that will be it
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: or .0.1  or 0.100
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: and just maybe you will be able to get some info about it
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the dialup modem 'handshake' protocol is designed/implemented badly if re-establishing the modem speed takes twenty seconds
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I guess you should show those engineers how it should be done
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: you can have it speed dial and dial silently
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: in the carrier strings
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: when people did phone hacking to get others to dial expensive phone numbers, they jacked the modem to dial silently
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: estaban, he's talking about a cable modem, not a telephone modem
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: he said the dialup handshake protocol, we are talking about dial up
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the re-handshake protocol is supposed to take a fraction of a second at most  [50k modems are supposed to be faster than 300 baud protocol]
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: it's just a case of RTFM , frankly
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Estaban strongly suggests you all rtfm.
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: rtfm xyliz
T1/r5/2009-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: eafd?
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seregil Tech: I had to re download mushclient and I've forgotten a setting.  If, for example, I want to go n 5 times, instead of typing n n n n n (or run 5n) I would like the n to stay and just be able to press enter 5 times...how do I do that?  I had it before and I've forgotten what I did
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: i use Keypad if i want to move manually :)
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seregil Tech: well, that's just an example.  I know there's a way to make what you type stay so you can just press enter over and over.  My zmud did it and I had my old mushclient set to do it but I can't remember how
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seregil Tech: Nevermind...I figured it out.
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seregil Tech: thanks anyway.  
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: Is there any way to uninstall a plugin from the aardwolf configured client?
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iyethar Tech: Yeah, ctrl-shift-p, select the plugin, select remove.
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taemyr Tech: shift+ctrl+p
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: thanks so much
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: does anyone know how to use the aardmush mapper? ie. how to look at the "built" map or to use any run commands to rooms explored or mobs found?
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: That's not an option. It doesn't build maps.
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: what does the aardmush mapper do??
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Read up on the help for it.
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Uses up my ctrl+alt+m macro
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: any foobar columns ui wizards around? currently trying to make it like my foo ui used to look, but having problems. first of all, how can i use filter panel to show me folder structure?
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: wow. i just discovered that i watch my electric sheep screensavers from foobar. that's the best component ever :D
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: how do i include an alias in a trigger? i'm using mush
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what exactly do you mean by including an alias in a trigger?
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: @aliasname
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: and check the expand variables box
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: variable or alias?
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: i want to make use of an exisiting alias in a trigger
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: alias :P i haven't gotten to using variables yet though i'd like to learn
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: change the alias to execute and set your trigger of the execution command
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just change it from send to world to send to execute
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, took too long in the other window
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: i believe i just said that
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, but it wasn't on the screen when I returned to this window, hadn't looked at chan hist
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: nice, thanks! abelinc: you have a miniwindow for channels?
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: I'm just psyched that i actually helped with a tech question
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: lol
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: dude, everyone has a miniwindow
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I don't use MUSH, I use tinyfugue as my client
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: well a specific window for channels only, not chats :P
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: that is a programmer client
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: miniwindow is a feature not included in the version of MUSH on the aard site, so no, not everyone has it
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: that is odd. i still swear i had it when i got the aardmush client. i dont recall adding it but i probably did
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: miniwindows are when it displays in a (hopefully-unused) portion of your main MUD window, rather than a totally separate window
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the aard-shipped client has tabbed windows for them
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: tintin++ suuuucks
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: umm, so don't use it?
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Global Menace )
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Global Menace :)
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: nothing wrong with tt++
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wow, carts is around :-)
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: no cap windows
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: only thing wrong with tt++ is that there's nobody to help with it when you're not here
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Ah. I actually dont use miniwindow then. I use tabbed chats. It works just fine for me
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: I'm using a capture window :p
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: capture would be nice, for gt and maybe a specific user defined channel
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: abelinc, i could be wrong but the tabbed windows can be moved around, i have 6 windows showing on my screen in diff sizes and still the tabs up top. is that the 'mini window' your'e talking about?
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: and thats from the website
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hehe, menace: the tigernuts of MUD clients
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, that's not miniwindows, purr
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: then wtf is a miniwindow
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: miniwindows is displayed *IN* the regular/main window
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: wheres the documentation?
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: im trying it tou
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: i dont like running zmud through parallels just to mud lol
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/mushclient/mw_intro.htm
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: documentation for how to run a capture window in tt++... take a new term window and type man tail
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: oh god that's ugly
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: i meant for tt++ in general
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: see the automap & campaign text on that screen...that's a miniwindow
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: o i hated the campaign window
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: menace, I wasn't linking for you...that was mushclient
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: i was talking to cartman, abelinc :)
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: I generally have found any documentation I've needed on the tt++ website... the #helps have most of the info, but the website is a bit more in depth
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: often, looking at others' scripts is some of the best practices documentation for clients like tt++ and tinyfugue
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: and much like MUSH... if you post half written code on the tt++ forum, the software's author will fix and complete the code for you :p
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: carts, you ever consider posting public scripts for it?
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: lol i dont like posting uncomplete code
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tt++ does have one nice feature, in that its syntax is what formed the core of zmud...so many people here can help with small problems
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: I've posted a couple on the tt++ forum in the scripts board... I should toss together a crappy webpage with some of my other scripts though
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: what does tt++ stand for?
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: tintin++
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: tintin++
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it would help...every now & then I see people asking Qs, but you're about the only source I can point to for tt
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: tintin +1 ( ++ increments a counter )
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: theres no graphical representation of the aliases and such?
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: C , C++
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Russco Tech: i tried mush but couldn't get the spellup plugin working so went back to java telnet
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, that's not really good logic, russco
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I can't get one feature working, so I'll ignore all of the additional features which benefit me
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Russco Tech: man i cant live without spellup
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but using java telnet STILL is w/o spellup
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: tt++ is not a graphical client
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: 10 years ago there was mudmaster and tintin, those were popular
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Java telnet and MUSH with no spellup... essentially the same, except you get to use the other benefits.
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's one thing if you were giving up MUSH to gain that feature...but you had no good side of that trade
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: you can always use the mudside spellup command
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: what do you program scripts with for tt++?
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Russco Tech: spellup works fine on java telnet, just cant spellup others
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You can still use 'spellup' on MUSH, too.
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: russco, that spellup is on Aard, not jave client...
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: I use a text editor and #read
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: what language i mean
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Russco Tech: well it just gave some unknown command error, then i installed plugin and that gave runtime error so i gave up
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: I don't know what the name of the script system is... but its the basis for zmud's language
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: bah
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: lua possibly...
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: i wish i could use bash or something
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: No, DK. It's not lua.
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: you can also call perl, lua, etc scripts with #script... never messed with those though
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: sry to cut in, but does anyone know why i can't access data from my zmud db if the db window is not open? i'm using #dbload in my alias to set that db as the current db already
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: russco, did you get it from aard's site...if so, that's the wrong place to get it
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Are you using #DBONLINE?
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Russco Tech: yes i did
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Russco Tech: i downloaded the aard configured mush
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: nope, so i need to #dbload and the #dbonline the database?
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I mean the spellup plugin
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Couldn't hurt, Einstein.
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the link for it on aard's page is missing everything you need to get it to run
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Russco Tech: yup that too. but it errors with some missing file
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, because you didn't look at where it's really posted
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: i guess ill look into it more cartman
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: and abelinc
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Russco Tech: its just an xml file, but the faq said plugins will be provided as exe installers to ensure files go in the right places
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: thanks for encouraging me more lol
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You know, saying 'I couldn't get the spellup plugin to work with MUSH, so I went back to Java telnet' is nearly the equiavalent of 'I couldn't get my radio to work in the car, so I just went back to riding a bike and using my walkman.'
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rusco, that xml file wasn't everything you need...there's a whole page with instructions on everything needed on the MUSH site
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Russco Tech: ill check that out tomorrow, for now java client does all i need
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: russco, check out this page: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=8780
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: hmm it still doesn't work.. i have #alias sw {#dbload speedwalk;#dbonline;#show %dbget( %find( "%0", speedwalk))}
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: hmm anyone have any idea why my db can't be referenced when the zmud db window is closed?
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fennec Tech: Anyone know how to disable to "Are you sure you want to replace 'current text' with 'text from clipboard'?" warning in MUSH client?
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fennec Tech: When you try to scroll through the command history but have already typed a command or part of a command?
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game -> configure -> commands...click keyboard preferences
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: UNcheck confirm before replacing typing
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fennec Tech: Aha! Thank you, Abraham!
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-)
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fennec Tech: That's been annoying the ^&Y#!$out of me for several days!
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Darkknowing raises an eyebrow at Fennec's weird actions.
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: with tt++ when you modify your config file you have to reinitiate tt correct?
T1/r5/2009-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snagandorf Tech: how bright is 7000 lumens? i want to get a feel for how much power a 100watt led produces
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: how do i get zmud to auto open my db window for me every time it starts up?
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: put it in startup folder
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: and jus thave it open when you log in
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: what startup folder
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hiddukel Tech: anyone using a mac?
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon noddles her head in agreement.
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Starbug raises his hand.
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: client options are: if you like Mac-like programs, use MUSHclient or zmud in emulation...if you're a geek, tinyfugue natively :-)
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that about where you were headed with the question?
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hiddukel Tech: yeah :) thanks
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're using an Intel Mac, parallels should be fine for MUSH
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: if i search a db which contains keys "faerie tales" and "faerie tales 2" for the key "faerie tales" it always returns the key "faerie tales 2" instead.. how do i differentiate them?
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: how do i get rid of this message?: There is no {chan within Aardwolf.
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Try 'tags off'?
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: It sounds like a bad trigger
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Are you using the Aard client?
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: yep, runnin on mush here
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: it happens when a trigger i setup fires
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: i made it welcome my friends when they logon, sending to execute
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: You are probably triggering on the wrong wildcard
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Use %2 instead of %1
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: theres only one variable
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: What's your matching trigger then?
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Stick it Inicus sits down and thinks deeply. 
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: (Friend): * has entered Aardwolf./*welcome %1
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: ideally i wanna make it send to ft
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Did you figure it out Kaof?
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: no i haven't it isn't even firing now that i changed to to output to ft
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Try just typing "echo (Friend): Kaof has entered Aardwolf."
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: That'll help you test it
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik goes ooOOooOOoo at Stick it Inicus.
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I was stumped. :(
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: If it works with that, but not when someone else logs on.. you might want to try turning tags off and trying it again
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: (Friend): You give yourself a warm welcome.  It just isn't the same.
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kaof laughs out loud.
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: But it works none the less
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: will disabling tags impact functionality?
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: So yeah, if it doesn't work when someone actually logs on.. it probably has something to do with the channel tags
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: No idea.. tags are the only reason I would think you would see the message "There is no {chan within Aardwolf."
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: well i disabled just channel tags, everything seems to work still :P
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Everything seems to work with you using echo?  Or it works when someone actually logs in
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: haven't tried that, i only have that many friends
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: There's no channel tag for echo, so turning the channel tag on or off will only affect when people actually log in
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: how do i match a string to another string in an if conditional in zmud? i tried using #if ("a"="a") but it didn't work
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: that should work
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neryx Tech: Isn't it a double equals (==)?
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: both will work in zmud
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: cmud is ==
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: or they both work
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: regex will help you
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, nevermind
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: #if (a = a) will work fine
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SolDianthus Tech: Hi~ what fonts are you guys using? :D
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SolDianthus Tech: for the mush client, I mean?
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: i just use the standard font
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: i use fixedsys 
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SolDianthus Tech: I see. :)
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Workaholic Timeghost Tech: ETL fixed here, but I'm not sure how available it is on Windows
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SolDianthus Tech: Does anyone know what font the Flash client uses?
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: looks like lucida console not positive
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: lucidia*
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SolDianthus Tech: OMG it IS lucida console!
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SolDianthus Tech: THANK YOU SO MUCH! -smooches-
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: SolDianthus dances around.
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SolDianthus Tech: Oh wait- the CAPS look kinda differnt...
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SolDianthus Tech: -goes to adjust font size-
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone find me an Enhance ENP-2222E or ENP-3125 PSU for sale will earn themselves several TP :-)
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: must ship to the UK
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: does anyone have a script for mush to keep track of the moons?
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: plugin yes, no script
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: care to share?
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: sure, lemme upload it somewhere
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: ok
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: what would be an easy coomand to add rauc into chat window? my regular auctions already show up but not rauc
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Anybody know?
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: regular auctions use channel tags...rauc doesn't (yet)
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: ahh.
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: also, abelinc is shit
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft nogs at himself, he must be getting freaky!
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: {chan ch=auction}Bleahy is auctioning blah blah is what is really shown
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for rauc, it just sends Remort Auction: Skinner is selling a level 100
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: yeah i know that, just was trying to figure out what i needed to do to get rauc in but apperently i cant
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can, just not using tags...just would use a different trigger, and depends on whether you just want the put up & sold parts, or whether you want the going once/twice stuff as well
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: darkknowing, when the main window is in the foreground, go to file -> plugins
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in that window, highlight aardwolf_chat, and hit edit
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Abelinc: when you use screen and tf, does tf trap the C-a c combination?
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I'm on screen / tintin++ and I can't switch to my other screens any more :P
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope, gives new shell
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: ok then what
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: darkknowing, in the window that comes up (you may need to close the plugins list...it's annoying how it is always on top), it starts with header-type info, then there's a Triggers section
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: yes. i figured that much out myself i just dont know what to add to it
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that main triggers section (starting <!--  Triggers  -->), has 3 triggers in it, to catch says, regular chats, and tells
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: yes
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: copy one of those, like the entire "say" one, and paste it back in
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the only part of that to change is the match line
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: what do i change it to?
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you want all rauc spam to go there, then make it be "^Remort Auction:(?<msg>.*)"
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: well i got to go eat. ill see what you said when i get back. if its not too much trouble can you send the remaining instructions in tell form
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: nvm i got it thanks
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: o damn. it says changes to chats denied. ill see what i can do about that when i get back
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ^ means must start off a line, the Remort Auction: part is literal, the () makes everything within it be "one thing", the ?<msg> is telling it to use a named regexp variable named "msg", so that's what the chat_redirect calls the meat of the message, and the .* means match everything after that
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: ok i have a little bit. how do i make it so i have access to change chats. i can modify everything but that always gives me hell
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not sure what you mean by change chats
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Access to C:\Program Files\MUSHclient\worlds\plugins\Aardwolf\Aardwolf_chats.xml was denied
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh...you on Vista?
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: yes
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: programs by default aren't allowed to write to their program files directory in vista
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 3 options are (1) turn off UAC, (2) run the program (MUSH) as admin, or (3) tell it to save world files somewhere else
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: can i modify that? it gives me an error message for spellups also but it still works. it just shows the top of the plugin in the main window
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: how do i turn of VAC?
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: UAC*
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Midnight Toker Tech: is there a way on the mush client to press down and have it clear the typing field like zmud does?
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to turn off UAC, you'd go to the Users control panel
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: go to game>configure>keyboard preferences. and set it to do it
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: click go to the main user accounts page
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: click change security settings
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it will require a reboot
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: dont have that choice
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: otherwise, to run MUSH as admin, right-click where you usually launch MUSH, go to properties, and run as admin, it'd require you to restart MUSH
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: is it the turn user account control off/on button?
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sorry, in users, click add or remove user accounts
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: click on one of the users
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then go to the main user accounts page
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: im in the only account on there, mine, do i click the turn user account control off?
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: ummm. you didnt tell me that doing that would erase all my aliases and trigger
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: well i guess im sstarling from scratch now
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: starling*
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: starting*
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: huh? it shouldn't have done anything to your aliases & triggers
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: they are gone. i knew it did that when i ran as admin also
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: o well. other than my mobrun i was working on nothing big was lost
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: probably wrote new settings. you should be able to move them around and get them back
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, if you had saved stuff, then they were NOT saved where MUSH wanted them to be saved (since MUSH *couldn't* put them where it wanted them)
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because MUSH can now access its own directory, it's no longer looking in that alternate location
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you just need to move your stuff into there
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: i have gone through it all. i cannot find them
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're there
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's just a matter of defining "there"
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "tech -h remort" to see :-)
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: thanks again abe
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're likely in a hidden folder in your documents, something like local settings application data
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: abe i did that but rauc still isnt showing in window
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you may need to reload the plugin, I'm not sure if editing it within MUSH is a live edit
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: are you talking about capturing rauction to chats window?
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: abe ok i reinstalled it but now it says  'Line  244: Elements terminated out of sequence, expected </trigger>, got </muclient> (problem in this file)'
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you did the copy/paste of the "say" trigger part...you needed to replicate everything between <trigger through </trigger>...
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's 9 lines per trigger...you wanted all 9 lines again, but we were only changing the one line that said match
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: it still has all 9 lines
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so every section that starts with a "<trigger" line has a subsequent "</trigger>" line?
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's complaining that it's not seeing a </trigger> line
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: yes. the issue isnt happening where i add the stuff but way down farther in the 23? is expects </triggers> but get </mushclient>
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's where it's being reported, but that's not where the problem is
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's basically saying "Hey, I see that the plugin says it's ENDING on line 24?, but I never did see that end of trigger line that you owed me"
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: what would it cost me to upload it somewhere add you add what needs to be added ?
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: and*
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm about to break for lunch, but I'll look up the fix to the "white chats disappearing", patch a stock one, and upload it somewhere
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: what now? what about the white chats i mean
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd probably already done that patch
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it was a glitch from day 1
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: i didnt do any patches but i can see white text
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: this is the first time i have messed with chats at all
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: O great, what did i do now? It no longer shows a colored bar for the enemy's life
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: darkknowing, try http://homepage.mac.com/mikeride/abelinc/Aardwolf_chats.xml
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: i editted that change also... will have to wait for next rauction to test
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, I discovered I had to make another change for it to work
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when it calls the chat_redirect function, that function tries to hide just the tags by hiding all until the first }...raucs don't have a }, so it's a nul
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I copied the chat_redirect function, called the copy rauc_redirect, and removed the part about hiding the tag
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did testing by using cat on my ANSI capture files from tinyfugue
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can also test within MUSHclient by using the Test Trigger feature (game -> test trigger)
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monsieur Dorleac Tech: anyone have or know where to get a pup tracker for mush?
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'd pretty much just be a level tracker, but change the trig message
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or better, add the pup trigger so both are there (if any level trackers don't already do it)
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monsieur Dorleac Tech: nods, was making sure there wasn't one readily available before i started screwing with a script
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: any flash/actionscript people around?
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: im having issues. my chat window only works half the time, none of my stats are correct in my window. my hp, mana, and movement bars never change,
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: let's start at the top...chats plugin...which half of the time are they working, and what happens when they're not working (i.e. is it that they're showing in main and not chats window, or do you totally never see something on a channel)
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for the spellup plugin, when the main window has focus and you go to file -> plugins, is Aardwolf_spellups in the list at all?
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: i get a error message everytime i try
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you try to enable it, but it is listed?
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: No, i get the error messages
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: so it doesnt go onto the list
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what error?
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: parsing errors. im gonna try and reinstall from the site once i get this quest mob
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, parsing errors shouldn't stop the plugins list from coming up
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Line 1701: Error parsing script (problem in this file)<-----this is my error message when i try to install the spellup plugin...the newest on in fact
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, that's when installing...so you WERE able to see the list, and see it in the list
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: i see it where i saved it to
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: but not in the plugin list
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: any ideas?
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: where did you save it to?
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is it in C:\Program Files\MUSHclient\worlds\plugins\Aardwolf?
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and is this Gammon's spellup script?
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: program file/mushclient/worlds/plugins/
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: move it where I said
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: ok now it works. how do i request all spells at once again?
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=8780 has all the details on using it
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: spellup+all gives error message 'spellup+all' does not make sense
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: spellup all
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: like the web page said
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: ahh. now i get it. spell+(name) is for individual instead of all
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: It can be a bit tedious for a high level player to work out all of their possible spellups, so if you want all of them you can just type "spellup all"
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: yeah i do that then remove the ones that i dont need
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are your chats working now?
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: yeah. i just reinstalled the plugin from my list, then restarted mush and it was fixed
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you do my version?
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Must have missed that one. let me look back real quick
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Trigger function "skillgain" not found or had a previous error.<-----um WTF?
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: what does that mean?
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, it's something from the spellups plugin, when you get better at something, it tells you your new prac %
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: huh?
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oops, mis
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: is there anyway to extract all information off a site to be placed in aliases such ass http://www.adverserealms.com/emerald/allsws.html
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: as*
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: copy and paste?
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: i said extract ALL.
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: not one at a time
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: i didnt say one at the time
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Ok then how would you copy and paste all of them into an alias?
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Also, is it possible to put a if/then statements into an alias?
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: i said copy and paste it into a txt file then add #alis to appropriate places
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: then import the file
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: care to dumb it down a little more...like where to add #alias
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: an example would be #alias aylor recall
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: ok. so if oyu look at that link i posted i would just add #alias before aardwolf zoological park as an example
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: how should i format the information i extracted from the speedwalk site? can you show me an example of EXACTLY how it should look for...wayhouse please and thank you
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: so that i can import it to aliases
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: darkknowing, http://homepage.mac.com/mikeride/abelinc/aliases.html
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's an example aliases file with 3 speedwalks
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: thank you
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the first 2 are the same, using ; to separate, and using send to execute...the third one uses send to world, and has the 2 parts of the speedwalk on separate lines
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: im still slightly confused but that helps
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when in doubt, the easy way to see the format for the file is to create an alias, then in the aliases list config window, click the "save" button...that will save a file with all of your aliases
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: that sounds better. what do the numbers and such mean though?
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the format for an individual alias is <alias (various optional config options)> <send>what to send/do</send></alias>...it's very like html with open/close tags
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: well i dont know html either. im playing this by the seat of my pant
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: pants*
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: well im off to work. ill attempt it some more when i get back
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the match is what to type/match, the enabled is obvious, the send_to is what that drop-down uses...no send_to is send to world...send_to of 10 is send to execute, send_to 4 is send to a notepad windo
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I believe sequence is only really relevant when multiple aliases could match
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyy Tech: I'm having trouble with powwow on Arch linux.  When trying to view bigmap, it disconnects me from the game.  Does anyone else experience this, or have a suggestion for a better (preferably cli) mud client?
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: i gave up on cmud and just use the default mush client
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: on the main website
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyy Tech: Alright, I'll give that a go.
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: i think it's really interesting how the prompt was changed to save mud bandwidth
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: hows that?
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: I think i read on the board, on announce that they prompt was changed so as not to display , since it consumes 25% of the bandwidth
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: when yur watching people talk on channels it dissapears
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Nods, it only displays after you enter a command now.  But that's been years and years ago :P
T1/r5/2009-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: i've never seen that feature on a mud before tho, and i've played a lot
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Is there a simple way to make an alias so that it opperates on IF(). such that a speedwalk action differs from where i am. like it will runto ftii from adaldar but still runto ftii from recall?
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iyethar Tech: You've got to track the current room name.
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: meaning what?
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: can you show me an example
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: darkknowing, youd have to populate a table with eveyr possible speedwalk from eveyr location
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: or set up a data structure that is aware of all rooms in teh mud and can calculate on the fly. good luck :-p
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: im just talking from a couple of specific ones o might want to go to from where i am without a portal. not ALL of them
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torghay Tech: the spellup command here works great, but I like spelling up others too, anyone have a good spellup plugin site to recommend?
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: what client?
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torghay Tech: mushclient aardwolf
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torghay Tech: vs 4.33
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torghay Tech: vers
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: go to the much site. the creator made on himself
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torghay Tech: I have to say, it is not working 
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Estaban  http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=8780
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torghay Tech: Ill try again though
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: you need to upgrade your client version
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: command is "spellup other <name>"
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: just install the newer version OVER the aardversion
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torghay Tech: thanks Estaban Ill try that
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Psychonaut BlackMagik Tech: anyone here good with mounted cd images and making them work properly and whatnot?
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: anyone know a shorter way to make a roomrun short of using a map and making it for every room?
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: blackmagik, google "virtual cdrom windows" ... windows (with the help of a few very small files, has a way of handling mounted images.
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: vcdrom.sys and vcdcontroltool.exe are the two files you'll need... there's also a readme.txt that goes with it
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: once you do that, it should show up as a normal mounted cd/dvd drive
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: if i capture a room name and mob is there a way to autosend it to a database to record the mobs in that room? and exclude repeats
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torghay Tech: ty for the help, I *think* I have it working, I spelled up my first person
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: im off too bed. thanks for the help if you would still like to help and answer the questiond send in tells and i will get it tomorow
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: does anyone know how i can modify the preset speedwalks?
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: You can't, but you can make your own.
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what do you mean?
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: what client
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Try alias?
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: mush. alias would work, but i'd have alot of em to sort out :P
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Well ... keep them in a folder, or something :P
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: i under speedwalks are running from a plugin
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: understand*
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: how? there're no files for em
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Well, they certainly aren't a plugin mudside, but I think if you're talking about Aardwolf mush there might be something client side... unlikely though.
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestine StormChaser Tech: how do I make it so that the "score" window in aardwolf mush stops popping up?
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what score window?
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: maybe he means the stats window
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestine StormChaser Tech: the stats
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: speedwalks for mush, really long ones, but you can edit them and it gives you the basic idea - http://www.gammon.com.au/files/mushclient/Aardwolf/Aardwolf_ContSWLUA.xml
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it shouldn't pop to the front
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: so i'm resigned to aliases. i'm trying to make it as modulated as possible, so any major changes won't kill me. all i can think of is another alias to get portals from a container, hold, enter and put em back. any other suggestions?
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestine StormChaser Tech: it does I close it and everytime I type somethign it pops to the front
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Kaof: Dagnir had an idea up there - I don't know much about Aardwolf Mush, sorry.
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Could never understand an overly graphical client used to play a text-based game ;)
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: i was just talking to him. :P but he's on zmud.
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: my speedwalk alias is a little more complicated, but i keep a text file of area portals i have and the relevant information for them.. then my speedwalk alias checks to see if i have a portal, if i'm the right level to use it, fires that off if i can.. otherwise it runs my speedwalk
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestine StormChaser Tech: problem solved minimizing it instead of closing takes care of it
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i only use a trigger that keeps the script aware of the current room and an alias to fetch and use portals from bag, if not already in the right room
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and then just plain run. permanent passdoor is also handy
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: oh, and i do have a trigger for room so that i'm not trying to fire speedwalks that think i'm at recall from my manor. died in CoC too many times for that.
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: purr, you on mush? i'd like to set it up like you :P
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: all of my speedwalks start with a portal. clan/aard or area. if i'm already in one of those rooms the script skips the portal and just starts running
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: if anywhere else, it will just fetch a portal and makes sure i'm where i need to be to start speedwalking
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it gives me the ability to fire speedwalks from anywhere without worrying about my current position
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: sounds pretty technical :P how do you do the checks?
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, kaof, making it modular is a good thing
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Well, Dagnir, I would just recall or cast 'word' every time or enter a portal if it's not possible. I think the overhead is lower?
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: lol yeah. painful lessons from C++ :P
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: a trigger to store the current room name in the variable, and a line that skips portal if i'm in the current room name is the start of the speedwalk
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: why don't u just recall
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: C++ isn't that hard. Try Spaghetti, Brainf**k, or Befunge :D
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: and if you are close by area and that has same roomname?
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you can manually portal/recall home every time you want to speedwalk, but i prefer my setup being able to do it from anywhere
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I love the idea of Whitespace, though.
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: so if you're anywhere but that specific room, it'll do what it has to bring you to that room, and continue from there
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: recall and aardhotel have pretty unique roomnames
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: that includes being 1w off the room, right? :P
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, /def do_portal_engine = /wake %; /eval /set portal_name=%1 %; /eval /set portal_container=%2 %; /if (has_portal_wish=~"Y") /if (primary_portal=~portal_name) enter %; /return %; /endif %; /else /remdual %; /endif %; g $[portal_name] $[portal_container] %;/if (portal_name!~amulet_number) d %; /endif %; wear $[portal_name] %; enter %; /if (has_portal_wish=~"Y") /wear_pri_portal %; /else /weardual %; /endif %; put $[portal_name] $[portal_container]
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: only exception are clan rooms, since they're the same. get's borked when i try to run from any other room than crecall
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's my portal abstract
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: damn. i keep hitting tilde in weird places :\
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: /def nanjiki-portal = /nanjiki-getready %; /do_portal_engine banana $[portal_bag_name]
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: i need to start going for mush lessons....
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: enough of my speedwalks actually start by going home to get keys, then continuing on to the area
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Abelinc: do you have a script that keeps the keys there in event of a reboot? :P
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my syntax is for tinyfugue not mush, but mush could do the same things
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, not possible, trurien
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: So you just replace them after a reboot? :P
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: roomname trigger regex pattern - ^~{rname~}(.*?)( [(]G[)])?( [[][*][*]> PK <[*][*][]])?$
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hasn't been a reboot in a month...
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: #act {$aard_reboot_message} {home; get all.key} might help
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nosave :P
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: keys don't save
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Keys don't save through reboots.
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Hmm. There is that. :P
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien bonks himself and grimaces in pain.
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if they saved on player, I'd never leave them in manor
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenchi Tech: anyone know how to turn colorcode off?
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: why leave them home when you can just carry em around?
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type color
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: answered.
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Kaof: In the event he accidentally quits out.
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenchi Tech: that does not work...
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}@GAlt. Helpa Charneus Tech@w: @cAre you talking about rawcolors?@w
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}@GSeltsimees Dagnir Tech@w: @cthere will be a reboot soon enough tho@w
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}@GTech@w: @care you seeing the @@R codes?@w
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenchi Tech: yes
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, type rawcolor
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Type 'rawcolor' if you're seeing the color codes.
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: yeah. lol. anyone kind enough to teach me the intricacies of mush scripts? online resources aren't very informative
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: What, new features coming in?
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Rawcolor has been in for a while, Trurien.
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: kaof, online resources are VERY informative...look at the MUSH site
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenchi Tech: thank worked. thanks abelinc
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: No, Charneus, I was responding to Dagnir's comment.
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: they are. there's an active forum for mush development
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Geez. Don't thank the guy who actually thought of it first.
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: can't say :P
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien slaps Seltsimees Dagnir on the head and says, "DOH!"
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the best things to learn how to do stuff would be looking at other people's scripts
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: hmm, guess i'll give it another try. i
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: expect me to come back real soon. lmao
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I'll be asleep ;-)
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus SMACKS Tenchi upside the head, wonder what he did.
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: same here :P
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: before sleep. what's the basic breakdown for a speedwalk script?
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you'll be stuck with a daoine telling you use runto for globals :P
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on how you want it to work, really
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: variables for roomname, portal and associated containers
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd start basic & work your way up to intelligent
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: trigger for roomcheck and maybe portal level check
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: keys and passdoor would be sweet too
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: mine - portalalias (checks if roomname is correct. if not, it gets the right portal), then run ~<speedwalk~>
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: god, so much to consider.
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: at the very least, entering in-client aliases will be better than runto if you get the speedwalks from a website instead of from the speedwalk command
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: after that, then you can start adding logic
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: okay, so i'll start with roomname checks and portals
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: check out clanexits and mark them on a map. then check what areas are near by and write a new short speedwalk to it
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: quick question, ow do i see how many areas there are in aard? i've got 55 optimised speedwalks so far but i'd like to know how many more i need to do
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the way I have it set up is that I have "/areaname-noportal" for the from-recall run, "/areaname-amulet" for the aardhotel speedwalk, "/areaname-otherareaname-portal" for a speedwalk from a nearby area with a portal and "/areaname-portal" to use the area's portal 
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: areas
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: good luck with that :P
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i already pasted the trigger pattern for checking roomnames
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: einstein, check out iwuvaard & emerald's speedwalks
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: are they updated? 
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then for mine, just plain "/areaname" is re-aliased to whichever of those is most appropriate for my level
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i use universal alias "trans ..." where i add the portal keyword for every speedwalk
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: trans clan, trans hotel, trans yoke etc etc
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: i use sw.. that refers to a zmud database 
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but all of them still exist, so if I die & don't have portal (before clanned and can just get all corpse) I can still do the manual run
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: come back to earth! we speak english!
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: less important with in-game runto as an emergency tool, but was very handy for years
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir acks!
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: runto has painfully long walks...
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dag, did you actually read what I wrote? :P
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: heh, I had zmud doing everything for me long ago, now I just put mush on and all the scripts there got me hooked and I dont know how to set up scripts in mush and I cant let go of it because of premade ones....
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, i know
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: been clanned most of the time runto has been in. haven't done a cr in years
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: was inactive for couple of years before joining chaos
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: also helps when you just haven't gotten that portal yet this mort, if it's one of the easy-to-get ones that you don't keep between morts
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: been only using it to go to new areas and then finding a shorter sw
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: actually, i use it quite a lot on test port, since my char eq is outdated and i have no interest in mining the portals there :P
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: i still don't quite get the forum resources..
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: does anyone know the MUSHclien trigger equivalent of =IF().
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LukeGibbs Tech: does anyone here have a good Mac client?
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: is therer a way to see bold AND normal colors on muschlient?
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amigan Tech: you mean like Output -> ANSI colour?
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: yeah
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amigan Tech: oops I mean Appearance -> ANSI Colour, heh
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: where is that?
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amigan Tech: press CTRL + G it should bring up properties
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: Thanks
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amigan Tech: np =)
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: that rdidnt really have the settings i am looking for
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: w/ansi color there are bolds and normal
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: how do i get them both to show up
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amigan Tech: oh
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amigan Tech: I think I know what you mean now
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amigan Tech: Appearance -> Output, and in the Font section check the bold box
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: anyone know a nice gui grep program for windows that will search zip files too, using examine32 atm but don't like the editor
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nero 9 must be a bloated bit of software, installing for 20 minutes on this laptop, and only up to 42% complete
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chosig chuckles politely.
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: deepburner and imgburn, all you need :)
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not true
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah. nero is a good example how development killed a good piece of software
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: old nero is to nero 9 what wordpad is to ms office 2007
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: why? it makes coffee now?
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: full scale video editting suite
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: media editting suite, i should say
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: backup/recovery software too
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gotta agree with tiger, nero was actually a nice piece of software that couldn't easily be replicated in freeware...haven't used the newer version tho
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: just not sure how they make it install so insanely slowly
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: is there a way to make a trigger, after capturing room/roomchars to send it to a database?
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: in zmud? or what
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: bear in mind, lots of mobs roam, so assigning them to a specific room may not get you what you want.
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: i know. im working on a mob run. and a mobdatabase simutaneously
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alkippe Chels Tech: Okay, so I tried out that aard mush client and hated it... but when I went back to Zmud, all my displays are effed now... any ideas?
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: anyone used jamochaMUD before?
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: turn off tags
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alexandra Tech: tags were switched on, if you see a lot of stuff
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alkippe Chels Tech: Do you know how I turn them off?
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: help tags
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alexandra Tech: tags off
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alexandra Tech: Speaking of MUSH :X
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LukeGibbs Tech: does anyone have a good Mac client
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alexandra Tech: I keep getting deny messages when I install plugins "Aardwolf.mcl"
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alexandra Tech: Does anyone know a solution to this? It does it with any plugin I install through the file/plugin option :(
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alexandra Tech: Anyone else have that problem with plugins?
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: any one know any thing about mysql
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: more specifically why is    'CREATE TABLE Flights ( to STRING )'  giving me an error  
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: and more attributes that that but im getting errors when i use STRING or CHAR(40)
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadowolf Tech: is there a way to fix my "bigmap" window? it doesn't show anything but a blank screen even outside.
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: reinstll?
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Go into a continent and try typing 'bigmap' to see if it'll update it or something
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadowolf Tech: well that does load the bigmap in this window which is useful I can deal with that untill I get a chance to try reinstalling thanks :)
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadowolf Tech: ok I reinstalled and it is working fine. When I think about it I think it started messing up when I did that "initaard" camand to size the windows
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadowolf Tech: command*
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: are the ingame speedwalks hardcoded? and is there an efficient way of organising a bunch of aliases? i'm making lots for speedwalks using clan exits
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: using mush. :P
T1/r5/2009-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: any one know anything about mysql
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: does anyone know SQL or mySQL
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Psychonaut BlackMagik Tech: hey can anyone tell me what program to use and how to burn dvds?
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Psychonaut BlackMagik Tech: free program that is
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: usually the DVD comes with free software
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: is it possible to have a portal variable that i can use with an alias and trigger?
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: or call a trigger within an alias?
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: which client?
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: mush
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: don't use that one myself, but yes, very much doable. it's "just" to put your portals in a var and call that one from an alias or trigger
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: don't know how to implement it tho XD
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: me neither :P
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: i'm having problems with the asterisk symbol when writing a script. anyone know how to solve it? i think the problems specific to mush
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krion Tech: What's the problem?
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: it gives me this {chan ch=gossip}
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krion Tech: Oh
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krion Tech: I'm guessing that's not what you want?
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krion Tech: What if you turn tags off?
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: solves the problem, but not for good
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: tags come back on after a while
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krion Tech: The tags only come on if one of your scripts or your client sends the telopt to turn them on.
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: mine stopped coming back on once i got rid of the chats plugin
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Krion nods at Lywryn.
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: i could live without that :P
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: thanks :)
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: makes me giggle how old people completely underestimate the passage of time
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: guy brings in an old Canon BJC250 printer "It's only 18 months old"
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: think to yourself: Been out of production for 9 years
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Anyone who could help me out with a little PSP issue I am having?
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Anyone who could help me out with a little PSP issue I am having?
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: Panasonic shockwave doesn't seem to sell cd players any more, so where would you try and buy a decent, portable CD player?
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'veren Astardok Tech: anyone know offhand a shortcut for "find again" in mushclient?
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: is there away of using variables with regular expressions without naming them?
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iyethar Tech: Any pattern that you don't name can be referenced as %1, %2, %3 in aliases
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the %1, %2, %3 match the first, second, and third parenthesized things within the pattern
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: ^\(Friend\)\: * has entered Aardwolf\.$
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: output: There is no (friend): within Aardwolf.
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, that wouldn't ever match ;-)
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: why not? 
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the * doesn't match anything in regexp
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: .*, or .*?, or .+
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: don't forget the parens around it to save the match
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the * is wildcard in non-regexp
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Bast.
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so your top part would be ^\(Friend\)\: (.*?) has entered Aardwolf\.$ and the bottom could be ftalk Hi %1!
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: i'm doing a ft *welcome %1 but i'm getting welcome (Friend): Kaof :P
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: using (.*?) too
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you have "regular expression" checked on the right-hand side?
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: yeep. :O
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: how do you turn off the color codes so you can see the actual colors instead?
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: rawcolor
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: thanks so much
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you could've done that after I said it on q/a channel :P
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: I missed your reply, sorry
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: even prepended the answer with your name so you'd notice
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: without colors, I couldn't tell what was channel talk and what was not
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You snicker softly.
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: is there a function to get the length of a path in zMud ? like 3se length is 4
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: nvm i got it
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: maybe there is but if you cant find one, 1 will prolly work
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: %numitems(%pathexpand(PATH)) will prolly work
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: yeah thats what i just thought :P
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: thanks :)
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: things you can't do on aard: get 2.shield 2.backpack
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: woops my bad, a shell is not a shield , even tho it is a shield
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Psychonaut BlackMagik Tech: anyone know of any free dvd burning software?
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fennec Tech: Nero
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nicah Tech: infrarecorder
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: DeepBurner
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Psychonaut BlackMagik Tech: nero is free?
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: DVD Decrypter is, though.
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It burns nicely, too.
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nicah Tech: can anyone give me some pointers with a script idea I have for Zmud?
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: what's up with the Conficker worm panic?
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rykor Tech: only worry if you dont update ;)
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: we got it at our work, thanks to our incompetent IT staff
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: what's so tough about it tho?
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: their AV updates every day... clearly not well enough, though
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: nothing much, afaik
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: conficker is due to activate on wednesday
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: that's why the panic
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I'm still waiting for the nmap plugin that supposedly detects it
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad angel Ghaan Tech: bs it just updates itself
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but it's been known for 3 months
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err, closer to 6
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: yeah, but some of us don't have time to go round and run removal tools individually on every single machine
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: so like, a network detection tool would be real useful
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: get better administration tools...
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: danj, try this thread: http://seclists.org/nmap-dev/2009/q1/0863.html
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: anyone know a decent amount about UPSes?
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: what do you need to know?
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: 850W PSU on my comp, i want a UPS to just protect me from power surges and spikes and brown outs and such how many VA, J, and Watts should i look for?
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you'll want at least 2000VA
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: just get the APC smart UPS 1500
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: i'll try and find it on their website
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: tigernuts... why?
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: because UPS makers have this fascination with hopelessly exaggerating the capabilities of their UPS's under constant load
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: most likely my computer will be running aard and a web browser ;)
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: so im vastly OVERESTIMATING my load
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: prolly get by on a lot less then
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: unlike farky and pies, he never gets by on less
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if you wanted to be safe, you'd grab someone that can kick out 850W, and not just peak 850W
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: check this tinyURL for the smart ups 1500: http://tinyurl.com/g5vnw
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: btw, from what i understand, just because you have a huge honking PSU, doesn't mean the PSU will be drawing 850 W , if you have just a cd player, hard drive and a video card it might draw like 300Watts etc
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: go on HardOCP.com and read the power supply section - that's what they say neway
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: thats true, but it's also true that an 850VA UPS doesn't support a draw of 850W
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: APC Smart-UPS, 980 Watts / 1440 VA,Input 120V / 980 Watts
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: woops i typed 980 watts twice
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Estaban Tech: anything higher than that is a huge price leap
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they should be banned from using VA as a measure of UPS's really
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thenol Tech: anyone have a working disarm trigger for mush client pls whisper me.
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Psychonaut BlackMagik Tech: Anyone know how to make Winavi work? Trying to convert avi's to dvds...
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thenol Tech: anyone help me with trigger for disarm with mushclient? I have ^DISARMS you and sends your (.*?)$ doesnt seem to trigger.
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrrth Tech: how do i get rid of this-{stats}12/11,18/15,14/14,17/16,13/13,23/18,100,100,100,24,21,You are Standing.,9999,201/201,243/243,575/575,19871,151,0,42,666,6,5-in mushclient?
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Type 'statmon' or 'tags off'
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: type statmon
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrrth Tech: thanks
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type tags off
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that'll get rid of the "{chan ch=tech}" as well as the stats line
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrrth Tech: thanks again
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: i completely uninstalled the AFK-detector, and play detector for mush. Was that ok or should i reinstall?
T1/r5/2009-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: It's okay-- they should be optional
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i am in desperate need of advice
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: You should not buy the green one.
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i just built my new compy and at idle it does fine, but once i put stuff under load, everything heats up rediculously, but i should have more than sufficient cooling
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thenol Tech: if it's overheating then you dont have enough cooling
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I'd guess the heat sink or the compound between the CPU and heat sink
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thenol Tech: is it your system temp or cpu temp?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: it's not just the cpu though, like the whole board gets hot
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thenol Tech: what's your power supply wattage?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: ~480 i believe
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: could an underpowered psu cause overheating?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thenol Tech: no
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Theoretically.
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thenol Tech: check your wiring, make sure nothing metal is grounded to the board
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i have an after market HSF, and it definitely worked fine on my old cpu
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: if something were grounding, shouldn't it overheat at idle?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thenol Tech: no
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thenol Tech: at idle it doesnt consume that much power.
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: If it were shunting enough current straight to ground to cause heating, it wouldn't work at all.
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thenol Tech: that's why it's best to just let your system idle instead of turn on/off
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: And idle vs load wouldn't have any effect on it.
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thenol Tech: acutally it does, if it's grounding the board...it can heat it up and cause a short.
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i'm extremely skeptical that's the case
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: there shouldn't be any kind of loose wiring anywhere
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: When it shorts, it won't warm up, it'll crowbar and shutdown (or melt and die, anyway)
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestine StormChaser Tech: so is it better to let your comp idle or shut it down? Imon a laptop
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thenol Tech: idle
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestine StormChaser Tech: thanks
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestine StormChaser Tech: thats what I thought
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestine StormChaser Tech: I have one of those aftermarket fans that plug into the usb to help keep it cool
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thenol Tech: anways sikai, if your whole system overheating.  It could be ventaltion problem.
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i've go a 150mm+ on the side, 120 intake, 120 exhausted
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thenol Tech: best air flow is intake bottom front, outflow rear by cpu.
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: -ed
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: thar be what i have
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thenol Tech: did you get a faster cpu?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestine StormChaser Tech: on my desktop all 8 usb stopped working at the same time Im told its the motherboard.. I added a 2 usb card and it works fine... any ideas?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i upgraded my whole rig
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thenol Tech: sounds like a irq problem storm
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestine StormChaser Tech: irq? pls explain
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thenol Tech: err IRQs, but usually usb has a hub and shouldn't take more 2
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestine StormChaser Tech: so you dont think its my motherboard?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thenol Tech: think of it as an address for you hardware...computers has like addy
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: stormchaser, possibly you shorted it?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: What kind of load causes the overheating, Sikai? Decompressing a file, a game, or both?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: rathik, well specifically a game, or p95
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestine StormChaser Tech: how could I short it?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thenol Tech: did you install your motherboard usb drivers?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: stormchaser, too much stuff drawing too much power
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestine StormChaser Tech: its all original settings I just woke up one day and the usbs werent working
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i've also heard of mobo shorts from connecting/disconnecting while powered on
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: usb's that is
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestine StormChaser Tech: I DO unplug and replug in the wireless adaptor a lot
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thenol Tech: just the onboard usb not working?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestine StormChaser Tech: all usbs stopped working .. I installed a card with 2 new usbs so I could use my mouse and wireless card and those work but thats it
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thenol Tech: sikai have you tried setting default for bios?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: ya i haven't overclocked it yet or anything
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i was going to but i can't get it to keep stable temps at stock... :(
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thenol Tech: man I'm thinking one of your hardware is bad or seeded wrong =/
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: hrm...
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestine StormChaser Tech: you talking to me thenol?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thenol Tech: no sikai
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestine StormChaser Tech: or sikai
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestine StormChaser Tech: I dont wanna change my motherboard unless I have to
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thenol Tech: you can check my computer | device manager and see if any errors reported storm
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: my buddy is doing some research for me and apparently some people have some problems specifically with my cpu/HSF.  i'ma play with it a bit and see what i come up with
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: thanks guys
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thenol Tech: full path My Computer | properties | Hardware | Device Manager.
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestine StormChaser Tech: I have checked for errors but havent found any.. and when I plug in my mouse to a dead usb it still give power to the mouse but doesnt recognize it on the comp
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: did you restart ur pc?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestine StormChaser Tech: of course it all started about 3 months ago
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: how old is the mouse and did you spill anything on it?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestine StormChaser Tech: my comp gets restarted about 1 time a week
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestine StormChaser Tech: no its not just the mouse I get power to my Zboard too but it doesnt recognize it and my mouse works fine in the aftermarket usbs I installed
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestine StormChaser Tech: comp is about 2 years old
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thenol Tech: well I dont think your onboard usb is bad. Sounds like an OS problem with drivers or Windows =/
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thenol Tech: unfortunately, last 2 isnt that easy to help with through a mud chat =/
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestine StormChaser Tech: I can handle only having 2 usbs but its deff annoying
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestine StormChaser Tech: anyone know if those usb spiltters work well?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thenol Tech: my advice then is to google usb not recognizing windows xp (or vista)
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestine StormChaser Tech: would that be the prob though considering it recognizes the 2 I installed just not the 8 that came stock?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thenol Tech: yeah could be a driver issue that effects registry =/
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestine StormChaser Tech: hmmm thanks for the help
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thenol Tech: np
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestine StormChaser Tech: Im not completely comp illiterate so Ill check it out
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestine StormChaser Tech: hopefully Ill find some good info
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thenol Tech: hope so =D
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Btw, for anyone who's a console fiend... they just released a new version of CenterIM, the text-based chat client.
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i'm back after playing with my HSF
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: so i put on my stock HSF and it works better than my after market one...
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: yet... this HSF worked fine on my other CPU
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: bizarre, just bizarre
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: technically they've chosen another path than intel
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: is the baal website down?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: there's something awry with Level3 and Congent backbones, can be that...
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: Vista is the new ME... XP ftw so far
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: learn to use vista and you'll realise how much of an idiot you make yourself look like when you say that
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: it frustrates me to move back to vista to develop these days
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: back to xp*
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fennec Tech: Vista wasn't "Mac" enough for the new generation of clueless PC users.
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: Vista failed because people wanted XP SP4
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: vista failed because of it's bloat
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: anyone that just entered the computer market would find vista quite fine
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Megawatt Tech: Ha, Macs suck worse than Dells imho
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: is the Mac OS better than Vista
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fennec Tech: And everyone forgot that their old Windows 3.1 software stopped working and had to be bought again when they upgraded to Windows XP. They thought everything would always be backward compatible forever.
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: some great improvements, but the bloat is just too much
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: Vistas bloat is insignifigant on todays systems
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fennec Tech: Just like they can still pop in their 5.25" disks and load up a .b file.
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I would have to agree with Forestseer. But why do you need that much RAM just for an OS?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: so it stole a bit too much HDD space, everything else people bitched about is just their misunderstanding of features of vista that make it faster
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fennec Tech: The real question, Trurien, is, with that much RAM, why not use it?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Assuming you have it in the first place, using it would be a good idea.
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: Fennec has 1 point
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: and the second point is
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Megawatt Tech: I don't even notice the RAM useage to be honest
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: vista doesnt actually USE all of it
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: that Ram that Vista uses is likely being wasted
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it just likes to have it?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fennec Tech: Also, if you're low on ram, you can turboboost with a flash drive for $10.
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Megawatt Tech: It probably is being wasted, windows is notorious for wasting resources
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: the ram everyone goes "oh no vista using lots of ram" is as good as free ram because if the system needs it, vista releases it instantly
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: but if you launch a program that you use commonly, you'll find that it's already been loaded into ram
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: wtf is up with that 'turboboost'? it's just swap space on a stick. might as well use the hdd
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: ah great, turboruin a $10 flash drive
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Right now on my system: Total 2941MB, Cached 1297MB, Free: 11MB
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: flash drives faster than HDDs Dagnir
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hmm. good point, but what about the transfer speed?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Well, I guess you could load it all into RAM, but what if I don't run any more programs than I actually normally use?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: still faster in usb2
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fennec Tech: On mine: 3070 total, 2455 cached, 25 free.
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: Dagnir, it's now swap it's cache :P
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: same thing
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Like I only usually run A, B, C... so when I start and run A, B and C are in RAM?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: nope
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fennec Tech: It's not the same thing, actually.
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: well, it's virtual memory
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: kinda trur
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: Swap is where it puts overflowing memory, cache is where you put stuff that want's to be loaded fast
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fennec Tech: Also, Trurien, that's true to an extent, yes.
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fennec Tech: Vista pre-loads a lot of programs and contents, index information for searching, etc.
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fennec Tech: I can hit windows key, type a program and hit enter, and by the time the window closes, the program I wanted was searched for, found, launched, and is already running.
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Go on... I personally don't use the Search function much :P
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: i turn off the HDD indexing cos i dont use it (i know where i store shit on my pc, and am happy to search slowly the few times i NEED search)
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm happy with my lightning-fast and pretty debian
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Fennec: Good for you.
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fennec Tech: Forestseer: Music. It's amazing for music. I can hit my music folder, type in a song, bam. There it is.
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Forestsser: same here... how do you turn off HDD indexing?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: Seltsimees: My Vista laptop boots faster than my friends Mint linux laptop
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: there was an article on TMS on what type of flash drive may be used to run a Mud -- high-usage electronic drives cost money apparently
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Fennec: I just use random :)
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fennec Tech: It'll even search the text inside files.
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: Spotify ftw :P
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: how long is that?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: or grooveshark.com
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: right click the hard drives, uncheck index this drive for searching or whatever it is, then launch services.msc and disable the windows search service
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: mine boots in 15 seconds
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Forestseer - I'll have to say, Windows does boot fast.
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i have to admit that i use fluxbox, but it's an old computer
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Vista, that is. But that's about the only thing I like about it.
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: i think i'm around the 20-30 second mark atm
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: how long does Vista take to boot
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I haven't actually timed it, but it feels a lot shorter than 30 seconds :P
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: my xp install on my newer box takes about the same
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Let me reboot and I'll get back to you, heh.
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fennec Tech: When I tuned my computer when I first got it, I could boot Vista from total shutdown in about 42 seconds.
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fennec Tech: Including typing in my password.
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: My linux box boots gnome in about 5 seconds
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: people don't like windows cos it's slow, but its only slow cos it has lots of programs installed and set to use up your resources cos every developer thinks "oh, they installed my program, surely they wont mind me preloading it for them"
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: after the usual bios checks etc.
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: linux doesn't suffer that problem because it doesn't have lots of programs :P
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: a person sits infront of linux and goes "oh crap, how do i even FIND a program to install"
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Well, the newer distros do, and guess what, they boot pretty slow, too.
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: linux has a lot of programs... but no registry that has to be searched/indexed etc.
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nah. there's plenty. they just know their place :P
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Megawatt Tech: I've noticed that if I let my copm sit for about 1 minute or 2, all the junk I have on it loads a lot faster.  More like 10 secs compared to about 45
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: can you imagine windows with apt-get? :P
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fennec Tech: Linux has tons of software. A few programs are even completed and their open source project might still be occassionally developed on someone's day off.
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: Forestseer, sudo aptitude install firefox :P it isn't harder than that
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you wish, forestseer
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Megawatt Tech: That's from when I turn it on
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: windows with apt-get would be a nightmare
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: every script kiddie would have the internet installed to his parents computer
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: and boot times would be measured in days, not seconds
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: probably, so we have to stick with the sucky next-next installers that take a shit in your system when done
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chosig convulses as he shudders in disgust.
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: there's alot of windows developers that don't know how to code
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: there's less linux devs in the same box cos you have to know how to code just to get the damn thing to run
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: It's really fun to take a clean XP, install one program, uninstall it and see how much crap is left behind
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir nods at Chosig.
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: that is caused by shitty installers
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: and shitty programming
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: not shitty windows
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: I run linux, and I can't code
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i like linux because it does exactly what i want it to do. no more, no less
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: er.. windows, linux, bsd and opensolaris
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: ya, well, i guess you don't have many demands Dagnir :P
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i can #rm -rf / and it obeys
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, i do
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: it's nice to have a console that you can actually do stuff in
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: there are consoles for windows that you can "do stuff" in too
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: if you know how to use them
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fennec Tech: I have a friend who turned into a big Linux fan.
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: for instance change all files to lower case in a directory - try to do that in windows without installing a program especially made for that
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fennec Tech: He's always bragging about all the stuff it can do. But the thing is, he's always complaining about how everything he wants to do won't work right.
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but they'll never be obedient enough to do #rm -rf / :P
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Megawatt Tech: I understand that Linux is pretty much more of a pure input/ouput system, but I think that you need to know what you are doing to make it truly effective.  I do not know enough about coding or even syssetup to run Linux myself.  I still have a lot of learning to do >p
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: ok chosig, how about i install one feature, and then do it
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: cos you know, the average user doesnt need to do that
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: but the option is there
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: i think that's classified as "less bloat"
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: i know alot about coding, and more than enough about syssetup, and i just find linux frustrating
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fennec Tech: A bike has far less bloat than a car. No airbags, no traction control, no headlights...
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fennec Tech: But I'm sure you could figure out a way to add those things.
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: ya, so linux is like a bike with inbuilt subwoofer right?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: it isn't bloat to be able to do that... it's called a working "command prompt" in my world :P
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: linux is only good if you know what you're doing
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: everyone likes subwoofers, but the fact is, traction control is over there -->
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: if you're not sure what you're doing, use windows
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: chosig, how many REAL users know wtf a command prompt is
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and if you're absolutely clueless, go for a mac
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fennec Tech: Most people don't even want to learn that much into programming computers.
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: you're playing a mud, so you don't qualify i'm afraid
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fennec Tech: It's completely useless. There's no point. They're not developers.
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: my father uses Ubuntu, and he knows jack... haven't had to do any hands on on hes computer since i changed from vista.
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Megawatt Tech: I also don't like the machine to do everything for me, which is why I want to learn more.  I've found that just relying on the comp to know what's best is not always the best thing to do
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the Windows LongFileNames was designed badly -- each longfilename wastes directory space -- and they did not design-add a fast recovering method if somebody sorted the diectory with an old dos dirsort utility
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: heh, my whole family has been on ubuntu for couple of years. my mom even does distroupgrades etc
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: she's only called me twice to ask something
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: why would someone sort the directory with old dos dirsort utility?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: windows is broken by design... every patch released opens two new holes
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: accidentally
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: that's the feeling i get
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: if they're using dirsort, then they should have enough know-how to know wtf they're doing, and to know that using 1980s code on a 2008 machine is stupid
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fennec Tech: It's a Linux example... someone in Linux might go into their command prompt and start messing with their directory while frustrated, trying to get some program to install how they wanted to. :P
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: i can delete entire directory trees in windows now and go "oops" then press ctrl+z and it's fixed, what's your point?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: fennec, wtf?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fennec Tech: Tit for Tot, Dagnir. :P I'm being silly.
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: also, most people aren't qualified to complain about windows
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: most people didn't pay, don't have genuine, and as a result, don't get all the updates etc.
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: I used to prefer non-microsoft products too, but now i'm in a position where i can get most microsoft products legitimately (and normally free/cheap) and they perform much better
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: I used to swear by apache, now I'm almost 100% iis7 fan. Still use apache for a proxy server, but certainly not for webserver
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Forestseer: I don't like being treated like a thief when I bought the copy of Windows Vista that came with my laptop.
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: my current copy of xp is cracked, but validates as genuine. i've bought enough pc's with the 'windows tax' anyway
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: i'm not saying i support DRM or genuine or whatever other "copy protection methods" out there
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: i'm just saying, when you have legit, these things work better
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, but now you're just supporting TERRORISM
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Well, Dagnir, I must say that's a bit off.
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Megawatt Tech: It's been real, and insightful. But, I have a class 8hrs from now.  L8r
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: at the end of the day, Vista vs XP comes down to familiarity
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: i hated vista at first too
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: now i've used it for 3 years and i wouldn't got back to xp if i was given the choice
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: how do i increase my zmud buffer size?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: Options -> general
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: i'm using zud 7.21 theres no option to change the bufer
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: Is there a Settings menu?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: you know where you can change fonts etc. it's in there
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: thx
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: np
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: trying to write an eq appraising script. put together a regex pattern that takes the raw data from identify and displays it like this - Intelligence : +4 | Damage roll : +12 (#show %1 | %2). can't wrap my head around the functions so i could filter the data and and use the first part as the variable and the number as its value. any advice?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Does anyone know where to get statistics on GSM/CDMA/HSDPA coverage?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aang Tech: For what area?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Worldwide.
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Just play more, and lose more. I always play for fun.
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aang Tech: As far as I know, there aren't many stats for world wide coverage like that.
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I see... I was thinking some businesses might have done surveys... like Gartner or something.
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Aang: for which areas do you know how to get such data, then?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aang Tech: I think there are some surveys, but what are you looking for?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aang Tech: Howardforums has a lot of people interested in cell coverage.
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Well, I just want an official number for one sentence in my thesis :P
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aang Tech: oh.
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aang Tech: Yeah, I dunno then. If it is itd be really outdated.
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Thanks though Aang.
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fennec Tech: Is there any way to envenom a weapon that you're wielding?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: Remove it first, then use the skill on it
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: hrm,  Trurien is writing a thesis perhaps with a footnote stating that a number was supplied by a character on Aardolf Tech channel -- that is going to WoW the prof
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stickyicky Weed Tech: Ok, I'm trying to import the spellup script from crimson and it won't show the file....I know what folder I put it in and I have it set to show all files not just text.....
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stickyicky Weed Tech: Probably just to early and I'm being silly....but still any ideas?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: any idea why this doesn't match the identify boxes? ^[+][-]+?[+](\n[|].*?[|])+\n[+][-]+?[+]$
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the first 2 lines, that is
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: mis
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: is the ternary operator in lua usable with string concatenation? not working I could be forming it incorrectly
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yrach Tech: I downloaded and installed the client from your page, but none of the plugins are installed. Did I do something wrong?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ultimate Tech: how do i make my zmud font larger?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parzifal Tech: go to view : preferences : font
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parzifal Tech: then change the appropriate font type
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: anyone use dual layer dvds for back up often?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feiros Tech: "there was a problem running the plugin" "Line 1100: Unexpected end-of-file while looking for </send> (problem in this file)" anyone know what can be done?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: your tags probably dont match
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: in the file you imported
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feiros Tech: hm =(
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: its just saying that it expects a /send tag and it reached the end of the file before it saw one
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feiros Tech: Line   17: Plugin "id" field must be unique for this world (problem in this file) ? what can I do? =P
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: check line 17
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feiros Tech: id="dff4168f1ac5036b8a489b49"...what should it be?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: something unique. maybe you already have it installed?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: don't know much aboot mush. just guessing
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feiros Tech: hm ok I just changed two numbers and it seems to have worked..thx
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: how many are actually doing user interface software development degree? 
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: just seeing the basic problem everywhere you go. people cannot design anything out of their own experience
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: cannot design simple win app for anyone
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: i'm trying to make a multi-line trigger in mush using a variable capture, but the trigger breaks everytime i put * in the multi line trigger entry
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: any ideas?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: don't put * in there
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: he must
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: how do i capture info into variables?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: %?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: %1 , %2, %3, etc?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: example: Keywords   \: aardwolf dagger \(296995\)  ...  needs --> Keywords   \: %1 \(%2)\   ... ???
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: or: Keywords   \: aardwolf dagger \(296995\)  ...  needs --> Keywords   \: * \(*)\   ... ???
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can't have multiline trigs that are globs, only regexp
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: explain what makes something a glob?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and regexp doesn't use * for wildcard/variable
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: glob is the default matching pattern
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: what does regexp use for wildcard?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you don't check "regular expression", then it is using glob matching
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: multi-line trigger REQUIRES regexp checked... i already dealt with that. hehe.
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, checking the box changes how your patterns must be formed though
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: ok, so what is the wildcard/variable for regexp?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: glob must always match entire line (can't put "abelinc" to capture any line wth my name...but in regexp, you can)
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it gets complicated...regexp is extremely powerful...
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: hmmm. just found something in help file.... processing...
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: here we must separate "anything can go here" from "I want to capture a variable"...
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: () enclose things you want to remember...so the first () is %1, the second () is %2
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but you must use patterns to tell it what goes inside the ()...this can be done in many ways...a period means "any single character"
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: i figured it out. thanks for the help. i was reading the help file and misunderstood the example it gave with * and that confused me.
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then ?, + and * are "how many times whatever was just in front of me can be repeated...the ? means 0 or 1 times (so it's optional)
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: why period? why not question mark?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because question mark doesn't mean that
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: i ended up naming my variables in my trigger line with this (?P<target>.*)
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: where "target" is the name of the variable
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: drachon, just note that using that method has a different scope
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: what's the scope with the method i just stumbled on?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and it's better to write your trigs to be more specific than .*
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: first line of multi-line trigger is as follows:
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: \n\| Keywords   \: aardwolf dagger \(296995\)                           \|
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can use character classes, and can tell the .* to be not "greedy" by using .*? instead
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: that's before i editted it. heh... sec.
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: so i'm being very specific about it....
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: just wanted to name variables and capture them correctly, which i guess i wasn't
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: how can i make an alias that saves a number to a variable and still uses that number in a command to the mud?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: ie. i want to send "rbid 10" and save 10 to a variable in mush
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: sounds like a recipe for misbids, unless you're sure you have it completely bug-free
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: this is my initial alias.... ^rbid (?P<rbidNum>.*)$
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: but now that i think about it. i need to include a regexp part for no whitespace
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: or something....
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: any suggestions?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: hmm is there a way to change after howmany characters mush client wraps a line and goes to the next one ~_~?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: Has any of you coded your own mud client?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cult of Rok Tech: Has?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: i have
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: im not using it but i have :P
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: odin
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: oops
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Is there any way to take two different lines of output in mush.. and make a trigger sending one line with information from both lines?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: conditional triggers
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: not sure how one would do that in mush, however
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Stick it Inicus sits down and thinks deeply. 
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enduro Tech: What's the story with Con Ficker?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enduro Tech: I keep reading all sorts of threats about it tomorrow
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: what's a segment of regexp code i can enter into an expression to omit any number of lines containing any content?
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: i currently am using: (?P<name>.*) roll (?P<dice>.*) dice with (?P<side>.*) sides each\.\nTotal dice roll is (?P<total>.*)\.\z
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: but it doesn't work because i can't ignore the "^Dice 1" , "^Dice 2" , etc lines
T1/r5/2009-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kabann Tech: Is there a way to force all NEWBIE messages to only go to the Chats window?
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Did that virus kill everyones computer yet?
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodyThorn Tech: Sure...I'm just playing the mud by flashing a flashlight in my fiber optic line.
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodyThorn Tech: So forgive me if I am a bit slow.
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: anyone knows how to display a variable as the text in a #prompt in zmud?
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodyThorn Tech: Nope, not sure...
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodyThorn Tech: Not sure you can...
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: pretty sure i saw it in some help file but forgot about it
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodyThorn Tech: I'm looking it up now..gimmie a sec...
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodyThorn Tech: Yeah, I don't think it will expand variables in the caption text.
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodyThorn Tech: Oh wait, I take that back...
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: oh so its possible?
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodyThorn Tech: it is...
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: how?
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodyThorn Tech: yeah, just put the variable in the caption text outside the quotes.. "The value is "ob"."
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodyThorn Tech: oops.
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: prompt xxx yyy
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodyThorn Tech: damn colour codes.
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: prompt xxx @yyyy
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: cool lemme try that
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: that did it thanks :)
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: #prompt xxx [the value is Child's Play)]
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: #prompt xxx [the value is @yyy]
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: yup thx xyliz :_
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: today i'll be trying out MS Expressions
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: for those of you who use gmail, check this out :p  http://mail.google.com/mail/help/autopilot/index.html
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rithlin Tech: list
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rithlin Tech: whoops.
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: is there a way to make all the pages of your website show the same url in the address bar even though its actually different pages?
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, a few ways to do it
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: do tell:)
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: easiest is to use frames
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: possible - yes. If you don't know how, will it be simple? no
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: recommend a site?
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: otherwise, you must program the server to know one user from another and keep track of everything
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: google html frames
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: ty
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: Lecithin - if you're content with Abelinc's first solution of frames, just goggle it. The proper solution of "make sure the user can't see anything BUT this address" is way more complicated and depends on whether you want it solved on the HTTP server software layer or via programming or... that in turn depends on how your site works
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Honestly, Abelinc agrees with Bulwark Timeghost
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fennec Tech: In MUSH client, when I ctrl+f to find something in the output window, it will only find the FIRST occurrence of that word. How do I go to the next after that, and so on?
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: shift-ctrl-f
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: wow -- that suggests  alt-shift-ctrl-f does something 
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: anyone know any good scripts that takes the mobs and places from campaign and places em into status window in zmud? small monitor is a pain in the .. :D
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetcuti Tech: is there anyone that can tell me why this pueblo deletes my triggers i have set everytime i log out of the game?
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetcuti Tech: or better yet...how do i get rid of pueblo :)
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}*Angelic* Naer Tech: Why does it say this after my prompt: {stats}143/74,88/19,109/60,140/74,143/74,140/71,100,100,100,287,302,You are Standing.,9999,2374/2374,1764/1764,2369/2369,321562,1196,4,2500,4963,64,5
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: help statmon
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rithlin Tech: statmon will get rid of it
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}*Angelic* Naer Tech: Thanks!
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type statmon to turn ONLY that off...type tags off to turn that as well as things like {chan ch=tech} off
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}*Angelic* Naer Tech: That was my next question ;)
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}*Angelic* Naer Tech: ty :D
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you downloaded the MUSHclient, now you're back to using something that doesn't have all the slick scripts that rely on those ;-)
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}*Angelic* Naer Tech: Runnin an old client on my laptop which runs linux. :P
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: alternatively, install scripts that DO use the tags stuff :-)
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my scripts for tinyfugue handle the tags ;-)
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}*Angelic* Naer Tech: Omfg, how can I get rid of this bigmap thing in the mushclient?  It pops up every time I look
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: download the normal version of mush ? :P
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rithlin Tech: remove the plugin
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iyethar Tech: ctrl-shift-p, disable or remove plugin
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetcuti Tech: pueblo..how do you get rid of it?
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: just disable it. or was it bigmap auto off
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: and then just move it background
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: anyone have idea of best way to determine how long you have to next quest/running in quest etc if you dont want to put client to calculate it? is there any other way than prompt from mud?
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Quest info.
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: And quest time.
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: well it also pops up every tick if you have that activated
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: --> TICK <-- (Hp: 23%, Mn: 100%, Mv: 63%, Qt: 1)
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: so combination of prompt and tickinfo is best then :(
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: yes
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: is that not enough? :P
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: hell no, I need exact 2 millisecond timeframe to calculate my spellup ...without client :D
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: My script uses telopt negotiations to tell me how much time I have left before I quest. :P
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iyethar Tech: I need to check the telopt to see if there's new stuff
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: There isn't. :P
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: I knew I should learn zmud back in 90's
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetcuti Tech: hello...does anyone know anything about this Pueblo and how to remove it from the zmud client? or is it a virus of some sort?
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Pueblo is needed. :P
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Not a virus at all.
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iyethar Tech: darn, I was hoping to find a way to check if a portal transit had worked without having to make the script wait
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetcuti Tech: ok...does it delete my triggers when i log out of zmud and log back into it?
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Iyethar: Trigger off the Whoooooooosh? :P
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Nope.
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: just save settings first
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: just for sure
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Are you on Vista?
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetcuti Tech: no
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: XP?
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetcuti Tech: yes XP
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Make sure your mud files aren't set to read only. 
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetcuti Tech: hmmm...how do i check that?
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Go to the folder where your zMUD files are stored (Probably C:
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: er...
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Probaly C:\Program Files\zMUD\Aardwolf or something similar.
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Then select anything that ends in .mud (I believe) right-click, choose Properties, and make sure the atributes at the bottom don't have Readonly checked.
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iyethar Tech: charneus Thanks, I think I'll still probably have to make the script wait, but that's more or less what I was thinking.  All portals generate the same Whooosh text, right?
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I believe so, Iyethar.
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetcuti Tech: k  thanks
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: another is the magic bounds message...it's definately a fail portal :)
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: make enter portal set some variable to 1 and when prompt is reached and rname tag isnt reached between the portal failed
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: no timers needed
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iyethar Tech: that sounds like good logic for the script to use, duckbat.  Thanks.
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetcuti Tech: nothing in the file is checked readonly
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Then try typing #SAVE.
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetcuti Tech: i'll check it next time then..thanks again
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: is there a command to set the fonts to default in aardmush?
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: game configure output maybe
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}It's Big Rampagne Tech: in zmud where do you modify the keys that turn your number pad into directionas?
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: can anyone tell me how i can echo somethign to aardmush chats window using a trigger command?
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: are triggers stored in world file for aardmush?
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alexandra Tech: I used MUSH client which had tags for stats (for its output window). I am using zmud but the tags are there and I don't see a command for that, any ideas?
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: yes Drachon
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: what's the link for spellup plugin?
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Is there a better way to display information in zMUD/CMUD other than the Status Window/Status Bar?
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: sure make your own window.
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: make a capture window for anything you like
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: I've got the map, a couple animated hp/mn/mv bars and every statmon stat in the status window... Now I've added quest information and it's bugging out from having to refresh, I suppose.
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: save the status window/bar for things that change dynamically, such as statmon gauges
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Capture windows seem to have to be continually #CLRed though... Seems like a lot of maintainence.
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: I have my statmon gauges in a separate window and they're fine.
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: How do you keep them in a separate window? Do you #CLR every time you receive a statmon prompt?
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: no I send statmon info to the variables in the new window - so the trigger watches the main window everything else is in the new one.
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: OK, so the statmon info is stored in the new window, how does the new window display that information? Just prints it out when it receives it?
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: nods - they're all stat bars including mana/moves/hp/gold/xptnl/heals etc etc.
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Stat bars meaning the 'buttons'?
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: yeah - buttons as gauges.
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: you just set the stamon variables global as GVAR then the new window automatically updates via statmon trigger.
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: so call the statgauge like this
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: statguages:%btncol( sneakbutton, red, gray)
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: then call focus back to the main window like this
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Meeper meeper
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Meeper :meeper
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Hmm.. Thanks. I think I'll look into moving away from the whole Status Window thing and move into separate windows. That will keep the operation threaded separately too, which is better for actively updated variables.
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: sorry --- that's :meeper and :statguages is the name of the other window.
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: You can call variables from other windows and such using ":"?
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: yes.
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: so I have small square buttons that go on and off with key spells like haste and enrage like little traffic lights and they are amber on recovery with red for off and green for on.
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Wow, that seems like a lot of work, haha.
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: fun and it's an "analog" display so very handy.
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: once you set up the sending of the info to the other window it's easy.
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: How do I send the #CLR command to another window?
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: <window name>:#clr
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Amazing. Awesome. Thanks. :o
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: A whole new world has been opened.
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: just remember to do <mainwindow>: to get your focus back
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: you can even just do #clr <windowname> but I don't think that works for passing variables.
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Is it listed in the ZMUD/CMUD documentation that whole ":" trick? I've combed the manual and I don't remember seeing that anywhere.
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: its in Introduction to Multiplating
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iyethar Tech: Does anyone know the names for the bold colors for use with ColourNote() in MUSHclient?
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: type /world.debug "colours"
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik nods at Iyethar.
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iyethar Tech: gonf, that gives me 'attempt to call field 'debug' (a nil value)
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: try /Debug("colours") if you're using Lua
T1/r5/2009-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iyethar Tech: Thanks, that did it.
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Anyone know how to align text on a ZMUD/CMUD button?
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: any Cisco n3rds out der?
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: My MUD window is floating independently from the actual CMUD window. How do I fix this?
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: drag it around over hte main window, until som icons appear, attach it to one of thos
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Those icons don't appear on the main CMUD window.
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: I know what you're saying, but it doesn't work.
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: is the "pin icon" activated? the one to the left of the X in the top right corner
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: There is no pin icon.
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: On any of the windows.
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: is on mine... strange
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Not the main CMUD window, not any of the child windows (ie. Aardwolf, Channels, Personal, Map, Status Window, etc.)
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Yeah. I think the session might just be botched.
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: It's been this way for awhile.
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: under Layout (main menu), is "Lock Layout" checked?
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Nope.
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: try enabling Layout > Show Containers - that way you can see how the windows are docked
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Okay, there's more labels displayed. None of them have the ability to pin.
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: try dragging main window around now, any icons popping up?
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Nope. Nothing. I think the problem is there IS no main window.
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: All of my windows seems to be child windows to one big zombie main window that doesn't exist.
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: There is a main window, Xioustic. You wouldn't be able to chat with us ifnot. ;)
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Alright, define main window, because what I'm chatting from performs like all the other windows, just with an active network connection.
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Exactly.
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Go to Layout. Make sure 'Lock Layout' is not selected.
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Exactly, no, I can also define active network connections for each of the other windows.
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: It's not selected.
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: After that, you are able to drag the windows around.
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Yep, dragging them around.
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Are you saying it's not docked to the program itself?
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: It won't attach to the CMUD window.
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Yep.
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Have you tried maximizing it?
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: It maximizes all on it's own. It stays on top of the main CMUD window. Ie. the sessions/settings/library/aliases/variables/etc. buttons are underneath.
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: It doesn't maximize within the CMUD window/container like it normally would.
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Then what you can do is close out CMUD, open CMUD itself (the program), hold shift down, right click the session and choose open offline. It'll reset your layout.
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Thanks, I'll try that. Brb.
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Your windows will have to be reset, but at this rate, it's your only option, really.
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: why does my telnet sessions keep freezing up.. I have to open a new window like every 3 minutes (if not more)
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Works enough for me, was getting ready to start up a new session from scratch. :P
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: - 6
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Beauty. Thanks Char.
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Had to reset all my layout but it worked. Everything is attached to the main window again. :)
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You're welcome.
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Xxxx nods off
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Good.
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Charneus nods off
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the tech channel display is defective -- colon emotes by other characters appears as though the 'You' posted the emote
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Go bitch about it to someone who cares.
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Oh wait...
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xyliz is smart
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus wants you to go bitch about it to someone who cares.
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xyliz is smart andd i Charneus agree with that 
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Thing is, no one is that stupid.
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik fell for it.
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I would never agree to anything Xyliz says. :
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I would never agree to anything Xyliz says. :
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: DAMN keyboard.
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xyliz is able to put tech words in my mouth
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: No, you're not. :) Again, besides Rathik (and probably you) no one else is that stupid.
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: do a tech -h xyliz, and the history log provides proof that each of you posted that Xyliz is smart  ( [02 Apr 02:01:07] Tech: Xyliz is smart )  
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how is it that you believe that it looks like the viewer posted the emote on tech channel? it works the same as the other channels...the name of the channel, the poster's name, followed by the text of the emote
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Abelinc: It's Xyliz. He thinks he's so brilliant.
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I see Xyliz... but I totally don't remember writing that!
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You groan at the sight of Rathik.
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: temporary amnesia Rathik
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: The mud must have made me say it
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: It might've been one of those dastardly Imms.
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: They're doing stuff like that all the time, I hear.
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik screams loudly at Apprentice Oladon.  Better leave before Rathik blames you, too!!!
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Honestly, Abelinc screams "It's a witch! Burn her!" at Apprentice Oladon
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you should change your pre to "Mafia Don" :-)
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon boggles at the concept.
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: That wouldn't make any sense.
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You snicker with her about your shared secret.
T1/r5/2009-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: is it possible to get a key from a database variable in zmud if i have its key no. from using %iskey?
T1/r5/2009-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Airuk Tech: Don't know if any cmud users are on and care, but I just uploaded a package called AardTelnet into the package library that exposes aard's 102 telnet codes as cmud events. Also included a function to send the tag toggling commands easily.
T1/r5/2009-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus sits down and thinks deeply. 
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: does anyone have tintin++ map files or other good tt++ script for aardwolf they are willing to share
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cougr Tech: i need help to get this to match my whois, i got ^[(%d) T(%D)  (%w) (%w)] Cougr (*) (Male (%w))
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kazuma Tech: and thats not working?
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kazuma Tech: do you have tildes before the parenthesis
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kazuma Tech: for the patern
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kazuma Tech: the part where it says Male
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kazuma Tech: that way it knows your actually showing a parenthesis and not a patern
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kazuma Tech: ^[(%d) T(%D)  (%w) (%w)] Cougr (*) ~(Male (%w)~)
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what does one look for in an electric or a gas tiller
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Randor waves a large bright red sign reading "GentooX !!"
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: i have prompt question, i want to catch prompt with #action  {<%1/%2hp %3/%4m %5/%6mv> %8 %9}  l
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: zmud or mush
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: i wish to catch prompt <%h/%H %m/%M %v/%V> %q %X with action
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: {<%1/%2hp %3/%4m %5/%6mv> %8 %9}
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: which parts, all or some, zmud or mushclient
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: <%1/%2hp %3/%4m %5/%6mv> %8 %9 to watch my move points go down while i run
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: it just appeared again my status bars... bat there at zero
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: <%1/%2hp %3/%4m %5/%6mv> %8 %9 to watch my move points go down while i run
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: %1/%2hp %3/%4m %5/%6mv> %8 %9 to watch my move points go down while i run
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: maybe i see whats wrong now, I think I got it
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: those (numbers) appended to the room names during a run are the moves
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: yes i got it, awesome!
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amerie Tech: anyone available to answer me a question about zmud?
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: just ask and see what answers you get
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: just ask
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: no point in asking to ask
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: unless you are from the middle east where they ask if they may ask
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amerie Tech: how do I change the colors in zmud 7.21?
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amerie grins evilly at Xyliz.
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: view-preferences-colors
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humpton Tech: %ansi()
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amerie Tech: did that
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: in script %ansi
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amerie Tech: but the colors don't look right
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: try to change to bright or away from it...
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amerie Tech: did that too. What I am having a problem with is changing text colors
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: something to highlight etc?
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amerie Tech: well it's my flist text colors and like when I run to recall, the colors there
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Are you talking about being able to copy/paste text, or just changing color in general?
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amerie Tech: not sure if I explaining it right
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amerie Tech: color in general
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Ah, you want to change those colors.
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: i would like to write a #substitute for tintin++ involving map, like hits 
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: #sub {%1*#*%2} {%1*<019>#<099>*%2}
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You want to go to Prefereces->Color->Foreground mapping.
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amerie Tech: what do I do on that screen?
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You can click on the colors and change them to whatever color you want.
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amerie Tech: I did that but some colors didn't change
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: For instance, don't like this shade of green? Select 10 and change it to whatever.
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amerie Tech: ok lemme try that :)
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: There are bright and dim for each color. The top (0-7) represent the dim, or colors like green, yellow, red, white, blue, etc. Bottom (8-15) is for green, yellow, red, etc.
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amerie Tech: do you know how to change the colors on the sc screen?
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Score screen?
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amerie Tech: yeah
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It should be able to change with the foreground mapping.
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amerie Tech: ok with the foreground mapping I can click on more then one color number?
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amerie Tech: and if so, how do I know what color it applies to?
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Yeah. You can change all 16 if you wanted to.
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Memorize it before you change. ;)
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amerie Tech: hehehe
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: A good way, Amerie, is to type 'colorset colors' and see what changes when you change the color.
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: how do i set triggers in mushclient?
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whoowhams! Gregor Tech: It's in game>configuration>triggers, but you may need to read the documentation first
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: oh, alright
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: And read "help botting" too!
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rithlin Tech: Game>test trigger works too..
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: yeah, i just want to set them so i have stuff like detect invis on
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: and don't have to worry about casting it every 5 minutes
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: manually
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iyethar Tech: tell argetlam I'd suggest Nick Gammon's spellup plugin: 
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iyethar Tech: misch
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klugefoo Tech: is it an ingredient?
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klugefoo Tech: misch
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Does anyone know if there is a full functional Xbox emulator available for windows yet?
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klugefoo Tech: does anyone know of a nice reference for tinyurl?
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: huh?
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You don't need a reference for tinyurl...
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what do you mean a reference?
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klugefoo Tech: err, tinyfugue, typed url out of habit,
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klugefoo Tech: my bad :P
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik grins evilly at Klugefoo.
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klugefoo Tech: the documentation leaves something to be desired,
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klugefoo Tech: I take that as a no then? *sigh*
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what do you mean?
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what documentation?
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you paste a URL, and it gives you a small one back
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what's your question?
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klugefoo Tech: tinyfugue documentation, not tinyurl :P
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ohhhhh, sorry
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hehe, makes a hella lot more sense now
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: actually the built-in docs are pretty extensive
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but IMO some of the best ways to learn are to check out others' scripts
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: What're you trying to do, Klugefoo?
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Yeah, you can access the built-in docs by typing "tech Hey Abelinc, how do I do ____"
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://homepage.mac.com/mikeride/abelinc/scripts has some nice examples
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Rathik.
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klugefoo Tech: examples were what I suppose I'm really hankering for,
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: My client has that too :)
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's good to write things modularly, have abstract macros that call other macros
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: Hey Abelinc, how do I do cross stitching
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Honestly, Abelinc defers to Apprentice Oladon for anything knitting/sewing related
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon snickers softly.
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: lol
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: www.ravelry.com
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: how about underwater basket weaving?
T1/r5/2009-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's the same as on land basket weaving, but you hold your breath
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for tinyfugue, also make sure you check out all of the stuff in the tflib directory...there's some nice utilities in there
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klugefoo Tech: oh hey, there's pipe redirection, this could be useful,
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "/listvar tflibdir" to see where the your tf library directory is...that's where a bunch of packaged stuff went
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klugefoo Tech: also appears to thankfully lack the "join_skynet" variable =]
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klugefoo Tech: thanks for the help, I'll go play about with my first hack in an hour or three,
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'll be asleep, but feel free to post personal notes
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klugefoo Tech: awesome, thanks
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Davick Tech: anyone no how change the map screen font?? with mush??
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amerie Tech: what about with Zmud? :P
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: first bring that window to the front
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then go to game -> configure -> output
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Davick Tech: k
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in that output part, there's a section for font
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make sure that whatever font you choose is also a monospaced font
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: woot i randomly learned something in tech chat :P
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Davick Tech: k thanks
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: help abelinc monospaced font
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amerie Tech: can you tell me how to make a trigger/alias so I don't void out? I had one but I lost my hard drive and lost everything :(
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Amerie: #TRIGGER {^Your eyes glaze over.$} {#CR}
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amerie Tech: in the command line?
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: zmud or MUSH/
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: She has zMUD.
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: And yes, in the command line.
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amerie Tech: thank you both 
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Did you get your color situation fixed, too?
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amerie Tech: nope 
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Nope? What's wrong?
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: The score uses the same color, so it should change, too.
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: However, you can write a script to change the color of score. ;)
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amerie Tech: several things. my font is too close together, so words look jumbled and I can't change some colors like in the score screen
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Are you using monospaced font?
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You can change all the colors in score, Amerie. ;) I've done it just using color syntax myself, same way I told you.
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amerie Tech: no, I just saw that, gonna look under fonts and see about changing to that
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amerie Tech: ok about the font size, where do I find the monospaced font info?
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: umm.. hehe how do u get the font back to default :P
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: is there a way that if my alias for runto *=enter/runto %1, to do a seperate function is a specific room. say if i caught the room name of clan recall, could i include that so it would not enter the portal a second time?
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: anyone know what the time difference between Australia and the Eastern US is again? is it around 15 hours?
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: That would be about right. Which part of Australia are you looking at, though?
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: brisbane
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: i was just trying to get a generalization though 
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yeah, then 15 is probably fine.
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: i can't figure this out...earth timekeeping is 24 hours, but you look at a timezone map and there's like 29 time zones
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Don't forget the twilight zone.
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: the twilight zone is in my blood
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Good, remind me never to get a transfusion from you then.
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: truthfully Trurien, i'm medically incapable of giving a human being a blood transfusion
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bleh, i wish these online media players like flash player and silverlight video player would allow you to increase the buffer size
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: anyone have any idea why with same setup southern ocean is lagged to map while any other area isnt?
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: If I have (k+1)(k+2)/2+1 = N... is there any reasonable way to solve for k?
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: in terms of N
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Davick Tech: hey i made a trigger on the client side and it doesn work its suppose to eat auto when hungry does anyone no why this isent working
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Davick Tech: im using mush
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: What are you triggering on?
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Davick Tech: mush.. i mean i set the trigger to "you are hungry" and then it supose to eat pie
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Have you seen the text though? It doesn't specifically say "you are hungry"
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Right. You're going to need to be more specific if you want people to tell you what's wrong.
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Davick Tech: k but im new with it soo i dont no how to explain it
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: is it purple?
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Here is one of the texts: ## You start to feel hungry.
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: You need to tell us what you put in the 'trigger' box, Davick.
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Davick Tech: k onr sec
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: triggers work like this... you find the EXACT message you want to cause automatic commands/events, this message is called the "pattern" in some clients
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Davick Tech: i put "hungry"
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Davick Tech: in trigger box
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: that's it... just the word hungry?
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Davick Tech: ya
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Okay... that means that it'll only match lines that are just the word "hungry" and nothing else.
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: and what are you hoping the word hungry will do, again?
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Put what Rathik said: ## You start to feel hungry.
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Davick Tech: when it says on my screen that im hungry i want it to eat pie auto
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Davick Tech: k
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: what client are you using?
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Probably the aard mush
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: well, if he's using zmud he'll need the ~ in front of the #
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: But yeah, trigger from what Rathik said
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Davick Tech: k will se how that works thanks all
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Stick it Inicus goes ooOOooOOoo at Scars.
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: You can test it by typing echo ## You start to feel hungry.
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Davick Tech: yaaaaa
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Davick Tech: it worked thanks
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Davick Tech: guess u have to have the exact words
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Davick Tech: i thought it would be like medveia
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZienithMax Tech: how can i see how much alignment im gaining or losing after combat?
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: type align
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZienithMax Tech: i ment i want it to tell me when im done with combat how much ive gained or lost. in NB they said it could be done cilent-side
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snyder Tech: anyone on that knows anything about mushclient?
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Depends on what you want to know.
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: You're better off just asking your question =P
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I know some things about MUSH, like how to install it, how to connect...
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snyder Tech: just wondering how to use variables in triggers...ie i set up one variable for my primary weapon and one for my secondary...
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snyder Tech: just wondering how i refer to the variable in the trigger line to make it work...
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: ^You drop (?P<weapon>.*).$ ...and... wield %<weapon>
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: must check the box for "regular expression"
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snyder Tech: hmmm....i have the variable primary = whip, secondary = dagger..... i really want to make an alias that will remove the secondary variable hold an item, dual the secondary variable again....
T1/r5/2009-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krispin Tech: in mush how do i get an image on the big map window?? its just blank for me
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone reccommend a free to use media-center style tv program for windows?
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: try http://www.sesamtv.com/index_en.htm
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: using mythtv under linux here... tried all te others in windows... all sucked in comparison
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: he said windows
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: thats liek someone going shit i need to fix my windows anyone have any help and you saying install linux
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: really? that's why i said the windows apps sucked
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: you dont have to shove his having windows in his face
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ta
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: willt ry it
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: just dont answer
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: hehe, my only hope is i find an n64 emulator that will run my rom without distorting the sound
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nah, it's a missing driver cd issue, you can always go find drivers, but they'll never let you download the player software again
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: never used windows media center the pay one from microsoft
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: better to answer with something he would prolly like better
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i tried beyondtv, sage, gbpvr, mediaportal, windows media center, sesame... finally loaded mythbuntu... it just worked and has more features then the others
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: you could use mythtv under wubi -- then it installs like a windows app
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: or i could use sesamtv
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: would it access the hardware (tuner cards) ?
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Tigernuts... check this out... http://www.htpcnz.net/Comparison_of_PVR_Software_Packages
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olu Tech: i can do it, with tags, all things are possible
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kweephnut Murn Tech: 0h
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Well hrm.
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: maybe he mischaned
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: It'd have to be {rname}variable.. but I dunno how variables work on tintin
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: He didn't
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Duckbat :o
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Stick it Inicus snickers softly.
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olu Tech: %0
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: whats going on :P
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: %0 to use variables?
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olu Tech: #gag {{rnames%0}, i think
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olu Tech: with closed bracers
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: I think it would be something like #gag {{rnames}%0}.. but I don't use Tintin =P
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olu Tech: scripting is at least 1/2 the for me
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Olu tosses his head haughtily at a funny green man... what an ATTITUDE!
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: #TRIGGER {(~{rname~})(*)} {#PSUB {} %x1;#TAG name %2}
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: What did you want gagged again, Olu?
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: thats what u need to do to get the rname away
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: And that's for tintin Einstein?
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: zmud..
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Well yeah, he's not on zmud =P
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: lol ok nvm
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Thanks for the help though, Einstein.
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: np
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: We should write some plugin that runs zmud scripts on tintin :P
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: STAndardMudScriptingInterface.
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olu Tech: tintin works with python, ruby, and php
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Did #gag {{rname}%0} work?
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I really didn't know that. :) Now I have more incentive to learn perl.
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: perl's not difficult... "hardcore" perl can get a bit inscrutable, but there's really no need for it, other than to show off to other perl zealots
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Or wait... wouldn't it be #gag {{rname}*}?
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Olu, what was it you wanted gagged?
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: The #gagline is a simple command you could probably use.
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olu Tech: i used tech #gag {{rname}%0}
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: And it worked?
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olu Tech: #gag {{rname}%0}
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olu Tech: i cant see me talk on tech
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olu Tech: now i can
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: perhaps that's just as well
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: OK, well, that sounds about right.
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olu Tech: #gag {{rname}%0}
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olu Tech: #gag {{rname}%0}
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Stick it Inicus peers around himself intently.
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olu Tech: but you can see
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Yeah
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olu Tech: wonder why i can't
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: It's gagging the lines you put the rname in
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Unless you can't see ANYTHING you say on tech
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olu Tech: no i see us talking now
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: rname isn't a variable, I believe, so everything should be gagged?
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olu Tech: '#gag {{rname}%0}
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: rname isn't a var, it's a tag send by the mud
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: It gags the line when you typed that, since you have it as a gag
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olu Tech: how can i type so i can read it to
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: That's why you can't see yourself saying that on Tech.. at least that's what I'm assuming
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: don't forget to escape the curly braces
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olu Tech: got it
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Anyone here frequent irc.freenode.net?
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chosig nods.
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: sesamtv works a treat
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: shame the drivers for this tv card are dodgy as hell
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: got an XP question for you... Im having trouble with my virtual mem dumping and when I try to give it more space it stays the same... any thoughts?
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: forgot to press the "activate" button?
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: just change the numbers won't do
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why are you trying to increase vm?
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: tried changing it in safe mode?
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: havent tried in safe mode   there is no activate buton that I see
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no, just a "set" button, iirc
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: ooo maybe that will work
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: I did a virus scan about a week ago it found 2 files and ever since I removed them my comp has been crashing and haveing a ton of probs
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: probably still got some infection going on then
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: its been a big pain in the butt
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: yea but now when I do a virus scan my comp crashes
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: tried combofix?
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: whats that?
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: one-use trojan remover
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: good at weeding out rootkits
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: Ill check that out
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: I wanna just reinstall windows but my disk is at my parents house and thats a long ways away
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: They can't mail it to you?
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: download it
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: download it...
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: its in a box along with about 50 other boxes I doubt they could find it
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Duels: tried an online virus scan? Trend Micro's Housecall might help you fix it.
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: is there a way to download it then burn it? cus this comp wont stay up long enough to download it but my roomates laptop will
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: I was scanning with AVG before
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Or you could always download a live Linux CD, boot with that and try to copy your data out to a USB stick.
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: so you cant burn windows that you download?
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I think it should be possible as well, I just never did it before.
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Maybe try the Windows 7 beta, or something. I don't know. Whatever works to get your computer back up and running so you can get ridof the viruses.
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: why dont they just build in a reinstall onto another patition I wonder
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Some laptop distributors do that. I don't like wasting x GB for it, though.
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: But I guess it would help in some cases.
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: maybe I shoulda upgraded to vista when i had the free coupon
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft shudders in disgust at Duels!
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: bought the comp about a month before vista came out
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Well, if your computer is good enough to upgrade to Vista, you're probably better off (1) staying with XP and patching it, (2) switching to Windows 7 beta or (3) saving your data with a live Linux CD and USB storage.
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: On (1) and (3) your computer would be much less taxed, IMO.
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: Il try that
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: it sucks cus this is a good comp just having probs lately
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: why people create viruses is beyond me
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: because they can
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: and why there isnt better browsers to prevent it is also beyond me
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: is windows live onecare or avg better?
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: avg
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: k
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Basically, as long as there are security holes, there will be people with some sort of reason to exploit them.
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: And all software has holes.
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: sometimes I think I just need to master linux... seems like they have less probs
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nah, just a different set of problems
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: There is a slightly steeper learning curve, though.
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Once you get used to poking around at your computer's internals, you'll do fine on Windows or Linux.
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: yea weve been trying to get everything working right on linus on my friends ps3 and its a pain
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Windows is more inclined to keep everything from you though.
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and if you're struggling removing nasties from your windows installation, you haven't got a hope in hell of mastering linux
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: As in, it tries to keep things simple because the user 'doesn't know better'.
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: check a linux hcl first
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: and avoid it if you have a creative soundcard :P
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yeah, hacking away on PS3 is fun.
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: But for a basic working distro that you can use to save your data or do work with office documents, check out Ubuntu or openSUSE.
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Whichever has a live CD, you can just burn and boot.
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Knoppix used to be THE recovery CD.
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: yea it is we have linus connecting online on the ps3 if we plug it in but having trouble with the wireless and also trouble getting the bluetooth controllers working on linus
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: wireless, sound, applications, like i said, different set of problems with linux
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Ah, that's really new to me. But I guess you would have to know what sort of hardware the PS3 is running.
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: The PC you have should be a relatively painless issue though.
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: PS3s are crazy
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: sorry if I sound stupid here but can you run linux on the same partition as windows?
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Well, it's possible.
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: in a vm, i guess you can
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Using either a virtual machine to run the disk image, or wubi.
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: vm?
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: you can, check out Wubi :)
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: virtual machine, duels
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Wubi's a bit buggy in my experience, though.
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: check out microsoft virual pc
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: vmware ftw *nod self*
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I use Sun's virtualbox myself.
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: vmware is beter than virtual PC, but wubi works great in my experience
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: provided you have a sensible os, that is
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: you cant form a new partition unless you reformat correct?
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Does VirtualPC support linux?
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yeah
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I heard some rumours about it not willing to play nice.
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: or use a spare hard drive
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Duels: You can resize partitions using parted in Linux. Gparted, also.
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Takes a long time, but you don't have to format stuff away.
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abesto Tech: Duels: you can resize partitions, so you can create a new one without  reformatting
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: vm would be better, don't have to mess around with your hdd's at all
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: ooo good idea my roomy has a 50 gig hardrive form an OLD comp I could use as a secondary
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: On Windows you'd have to have something like PartitionMagic to mess with partitions.
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Tigernuts: yeah, a VM would be a little more painless.
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you can change partition sizes with no extra software at all if you have vista
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Hmm... that tool didn't really work for me.
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: how do VMs work? do you run them through windows?
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yes, duels
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's like having a computer within your computer
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: then that wouldnt help me since the prob is my comp constantly crashing
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: then fix it first!
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: Im trying lol
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: could also be ur ram sticks dying...
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Plus I think Duels, you're still on XP right?
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: yes Im on XP
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Could be anything. Is there some sort of error message you get, a stack trace or something when your computer dies?
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: stack trace?
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: my cpu usage is sitting at 100% all the time      cant be good   and virtual memory is overloaded as well
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: already told you you were still infected
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: even told you what to try first
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: I know
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: then its not ur ram its ruined os or viruses
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: get extended task manager and see what handles the pricess thats using all ur cpu
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: process even
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: extended task manager?
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: how do I do that?
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: yeah its just extended version of regular one... lets you see what handless each process what it accesses and so on
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: just google for it
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: or you could just run combofix and start fixing the problem
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: its a dynamic library file and exucutable
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: its hard do do soem of the thinsg your saying cus I cant browse the net on this comp anymore it crashes it but I can on my roomies
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: or you could just reformat whole drive and make a clean install... then put a firewall that doesnt fail
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: ok pls tell memore about combofix and Ill try it
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: download it on your roomie's pc, then run it on yours
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: I want to do a reformat
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if you want to do a reformat, download an iso of your windows on your roomie's pc
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: if u gona do reformat ask someone who knows whats up to help out... since you gona need to reinstall all the drivers and what not
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: Ill try that tomarrow tiger ... to late at night to have access to the laptop
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: yeah make sure to do what tiger said first lol
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: if your browser is what crashing your system u could try reinstallin browser itself and removing manualy all the cookies and temp files
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: the browser istnt he only thing that crashes it it just crashes it faster
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: I have Chrom IE Firfox and Opera and they all crash it
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: ehhh get a decent firewall my advice to you
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: ie = fail so is opera
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: yea I usually only use firefox
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: firefox ehh... it used to be much better
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: get scriptblocker for ff
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: solves alot of nuisances
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: thats what i hear.... how is Chrome in your opinion?
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: never used... *shrug*
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: where can I find script blocker? download.com?
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: just because its new doesnt mean it wont get holes in it already
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: hmm good question i have no idea lol
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: just google for firefox scriptblocker
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: hehe
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: but yeah if stuff like this happens often get filewall/firewall that boot blocks anything from messing with system files registry or itself
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: just google firewall/firewall?
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: yeah well get any kind of firewall at all
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: that should be a good start
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: is windows firewall not that good?
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: lol...
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: Ill take that as a no
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: i once tryed aol antivirus.... it found itself as a virus and tried to delete itself... made me laugh
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: windows firewall isnt much better
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: lmfao
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: well as far as xp goes anyway... not sure about vista havent used all that much
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: Ive heard XP can be better then vista
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: soon microsoft wont support xp then you gona need to switch to vista
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: yea bill gates sucks lol
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: greedy ..... but vista got its pluses
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: interface is much more userfriendly and some even to minor things they were a really nice touch
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: On the plus side, I think Windows 7 will be Vista done right, and improved.
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: And it is purported to run on low-requirement devices too.
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: lets say your copying 500 episodes of.... i dono lost or w/e then on 202 it asks if you want to override... for vista it asks you that at the very end
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: whats up with windows 7? you guys suggested installing it  never even heard of it
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: It's still in beta, I've seen it on someone's computer and it's pretty neat.
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: it's the next windows
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: and you can get it now?
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: But it has all the risks of a beta product, which is to say nothing much more than a finished product :P
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: not unless u know someone
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: well anyone know someone? hehe
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: dont use beta software unless you sure about it -_- thats my opinion
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I've heard no complaints from the two users so far, HiSaZuL. That's good enough for me :P
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Partly because I'm fine with installing it on another partition, so.
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: coulndt run any worse then xp is running right now for me
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Just double-check the minimum requirements :)
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: meh everyone kept telling me vista was great too.... then they suddenly went back to xp when it started to flipping out at the begining
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: i dono im not fond of beta software with microsoft logo on it...
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: they always make it shinier but less funcunal then previous version
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: but but bil gates loves you
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Komrad Kessel Tech: of course they do, that's why the free *nix alternatives havea controlling market share
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: does he even run m$ still?
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: not sure really but he is making the most $$ from it
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: he is too rich... I mean how much money do you need
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: he should buy mexico and turn it into a theme park
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abesto Tech: he retired from microsoft in 2008
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: seriously?
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abesto Tech: yep, it was all over slashdot
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: Im sure he owns a TON of stockin it still
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abesto Tech: Well, no matter how much we dislike MS software, you gotta admit he knows how to do something
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abesto Tech: even if that's not stable OS's
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what rot, xp is perfectly stable
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yes, I liked it a lot better than I did Vista at first.
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Now I just stopped complaining, I still don't really like Vista. But I have shell access on a Linux machine, so that's about all I need :)
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: vista is a big step back compared to xp
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocero Tech: anyone using tintin++? any scripts available?
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enemy Tech: hey, does anyone how how to make a string list and some sort of trigger to sweep all the targets in the room on a target list?
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: this week i have been doing "noddy does MS Expression"
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: any car technicians/enthusiasts around?
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft prods If you see Dashiell into action!
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: bah, we're all nerds who can't figure out a car like me? :P
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: dashiell is the expert
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: expert in hiding? :P
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: probably working atm
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: my rear wheels got completely locked - as in, locked dead. Brake won't release full stop. ABS complained a short while after - the car was towed away, but wondering about potential diagnosis
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what brand of car is it?
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: normally a bit of sticking here and there just goes with a small bang when you start off - I dragged the wheels for about 3 metres and rocked back and forth for about 20 mins - nada
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: VW
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: cars are like horses when something breaks you simpy shoot it. :P  j/k
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: garage not fixing it?
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: holidays here - got the emergency tow service over, they'll look at it tomorrow. Just wondering whether someone had a similar problem or so
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: the last time i had a problem like that, my emergency break wouldn't release
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what's an emergency break?
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: Scars - nod, my hand-break was on, but the car was still for only 2 days.
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: what a fox does when caught in a trap
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why did you leave your handbreak on while it was parked for 2 days?
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: because the parking break isn't always good enough on an incline/decline
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: stick chocks under it
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: of course I did - it's all slopes and hills here. I always park with the hand-brake on - the car used to stand for over a month with no problems
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars nods at Bulwark Timeghost.
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: I do both hand-brake and first gear
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: my assumption, based off what you said, is that your emergency break is the problem
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: but i could be completely wrong
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's a handbreak damnit!
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: drum or disc brakes?
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: playing with it didn't help at all - it's as if it's "glued" to the wheels
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if something in the rear axle transmission gearing broke, that may lock up things -- not be the brakes at all
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: drum brakes
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: did you check the brake fluid?
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: look on the bright side, there's NEVER been a better time to buy a new car
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: car's front-wheel drive
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: you don't buy a new car if the problem is your brake line...
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: afk a sec
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: if it's drums one of the springs holding the brake band might be off... that would make it not bulge at all
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: you do if the govt is positively throwing money at you to drive one away
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: aren't all modern cars disc breaks these days?
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars nods at Chosig.
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: heh, I replaced majic's brake lines..with a lot of , cough, help, from dashiell :P
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chosig is not natively english speaking so some terms might be a bit off when it comes to cars
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: lots of car companies still use drums in the rear since its cheaper
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: ffs - BRAKE = thing that stops your car.  BREAK = what i'll do to the neck of the next person who muddles them up
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: in third world countries maybe
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I dunno, though, not sure what kind of breaks she had :/
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: anipopo, thank you, you may return to your seat now
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: english class is next hour
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what breaks do you have, popo?
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: i don't drive a seat, thanks for playing
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: the breaks locked up on my old car once and I had to brake them free... *hehehe*
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krispin Tech: after i get speedwalks directions do i type run 2s4wl2 or is it another command key?
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stormwind Tech: What is the #echo command for mush client?
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Note is the script command
T1/r5/2009-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stormwind Tech: thanks
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycynder Tech: anyone get cmud running under wine?
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i hate updating wordpress
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: what is the technical term for the area next to the start button with little icons to click for quick access to  things?
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: quick start panel I think
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: quick launch
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: right click on and check properties it got name right there lol
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what is the difference between an android and a cyborg
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nicah Tech: a cyborg is metal and flesh.. and android is a "robot" (completely metal)
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: android is a synthetic organism, cyborg means cybernetic organism, so it can be mix of synthetic and living tissue
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: android doesn't have to be completely made of metal. it can be made of plastic etc. should imitate a human tho
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no big differences, really
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: cyborg - A human who has certain physiological processes aided or controlled by mechanical or electronic devices.
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: android - An automaton that is created from biological materials and resembles a human. Also called humanoid.
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: androids could have synthetic tissue as well afaik
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: what feature have I checked while drunk in zmud when anything it pastes with ctrl-v but not with edit-paste comes in in double?
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: anyone have any idea why it doubles?
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: anyone figured out yet why my ctrl-v double pastes things and edit-paste doesnt? I have no macro's set
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: in zmud that is :)
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: double-pastes where
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: command line
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: copy something from screen, paste it in command line and it comes in double. but same thing through edit-paste does it just right...once
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: ie. "copy somethingcopy something" with ctrl-v and "copy something" with edit-paste
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: what if you use the other ctrl key?
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: same thing :)
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: i got nothing
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: does it happen in other programs?
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: only happens when you ctrl-v in zmud ? did u try anything else?
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: no, just zmud
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what is the double-post delimited/separated by -- a semicolon or something else
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: those were exact copies from earlier tech ... exactly how it does it
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: without quotes ofcourse
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: also happens only in command line, not in editor, not in script editor...just command line
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: mouse over commandline ->right click-paste does it normally also
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: in General-->Emulation  what is active
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: ansi, vt102, mcp, pueblo, emulate control codes, and telnet options withouth strict
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: default being zmud
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: later version, never heard of peublo option
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: 7.21
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: i reproduced your problem foren by unchecking enable menu key shortcuts, i put it back and it stopped... is yours unchecked by chance?
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: sorry to take so long linoge, but no, didnt help as it was checked, and unchecking it didnt help
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: well this is a strange bug, there's a few things in zugg forums about it but it happens to people for different reasons not many solutions up there
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: YOU ARE GENIOUS...for some reason, while it was checked, it worked like it wasnt... now that I rechecked it, it works like a charm.
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: thanks
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: went through forums also, pain when it's happening so randomly :D
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: Any drupal wizzes around?
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jokerette Tech: Ask Abelinc, he knows everything! :P
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: Yeah... shoulda have remembered that :P
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dath Tech: its been a good die inspite of dying, this adventure i learned a good bit more about scripting so the pain was worth it
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dath Tech: #if    {"$mp_percent"=="100" && "$sleep"=="sleep" && "$faith"=="off"} {cast test self}
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dath Tech: thats what i learned today, sweet, i know
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Patton Tech: Using Google Chrome Is there any way around the tiny print when printing?
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Patton Tech: Or is this one of its built in screwups?
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Is there a way to allow a trigger to act only if certain circumstances are met?(MUSH)
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mad Hermit Starky Tech: scripting?
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: yes -- disable it when the circumstances are not met
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: or have it run a function
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: How do i do that Swalec?
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: what sort of circumstances were you thinking of? 
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: what kind of circumstances dark?
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Swalec goes 'snap' with Joelz
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: i want it to get/wear/enter a portal if i have it, and if i dont i want it to runto location
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fae Wino Joelz peers intently at Swalec.
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: well, that depends how you're going to check for the portal
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: you can set a manual variable for each portal you have
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I have a speedwalking plugin that does this sort of thing
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: I plan on manually entering portal name into a variable.
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: nice timing joelz
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: including shortest path and using portals when they are the best way forward
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: I don't really care for your plugin Swalec, i tried it
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: well, thanks for the feedback 
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: any particular reason?
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rithlin Tech: Heh...
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: It kept screwing up when i tried to runto from clan recall
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: screwed up how? 
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: ran me to the wrong area, or into a part of the clan.
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Swalec nods his head
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: the problem is I don't have a clan recall, so I don't know how it works, but you can configure around this
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: I can't. Im too retarded. But to get from clan recall to aylor i simply go down
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: the plugin does make the assumption that typing "recall" will take you back to aylor
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: and how do you get to clan recall? 
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: type enter
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: or recall
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: just that? you don't have to hold anything first? 
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: well when i type enter i automaticall get/equip/ and enter portal
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: okay, so you have a portal to get to clan recall? is that true for all clan recalls? 
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain Flygo Tech: you can get to clan recall with normal recall (or word) or portal
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: well, my clan portal takes me 1u from recall but my enter command for that portal is get/wear/enter/d
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: okay, then you would still need to tell my plugin about the clan location and the route to it
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Again, I am too retarded to figure that out
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain Flygo Tech: route? :P
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: but the plugin is flawed at the moment because I assumed that typing "recall" always goes back to aylor
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: the route in this case being "hold portal, enter portal"
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: so, my plugin needs to be told that you have a portal and where it goes -- so, you can configure it to use a garbage can
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: at the moment, the recall issue is probably not that major because, I guess, most people don't use recall, preferring to use a portal cause it's cheaper -- so the plugin would work fine
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Its too much work to try and figure out/fix someone else script that im too stupid for when i can make a dumbed down version myself
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Swalec shrugs
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Thanks anyways
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: you want to have mush work on the basis of only doing right things at the right time
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: thats not taht easy
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: but the easiest way to achieve what you want is to use runprefix
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: But back to the original question, how do i make an alias act upon certain circumstances
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: well, that was answered -- you either enable/disable it
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: of you have it call a function
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: But it was never answered how to do it.
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: you haven't said very precisely what you wanted
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Yes, i did. look back
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: i want my runto * to runto a specific location, but use a portal if i have it...
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: to do that, you have to maintain a list of portals and keywords
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I mean, it's doable, but it's not completely straight forward -- still the info you have given me is useful. Hopefully the next release of the plugin will cope easily with clan recalls
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: if I may, I'll send you a personal note, when I have thought about it, if I need more details -- it's kind of hard for me to test at the moment, as I don't have a clan recall
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: any, now I have to log -- good luck
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: how do i alias something to save a value to variable in mush, and also send that command to the mud? (ie... say hi, and "hi" is saved to a variable)
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: make the script send to the mud.
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: how would i do that? it should be really short and simple yeah?
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for the particular case of saying...in the top part, put "say *"...in the big box, put "SetVariable ("NameYouWantForTheVariable", "%1")" on one line, and Send "say %1" on the next line...then change the Send To drop-down to Script
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: in excel how do you lock a row of cells so that when you scroll down it will still appear at top
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: "freeze" ??
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: top row? click in cell in a column, right below the row you want to freeze, and freeze panes
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: in "window" menu
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: on the right-hand scrollbar, at the top, there's a little line...drag that line
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: think you want cell a2 if you're wanting to freeze row 1
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: freeze works for both the horiz. and vert.
T1/r5/2009-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: sweet thank you guys :)
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Windows Media Player is about to seriously piss me off.
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: its not its fault you're short
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Heh. Every song file I open, WMP decides to open its own window and play a radio stream I had for RadioSure. *sigh*
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: that's why I stick to winamp...
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I don't even know where it got the stream from.
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I hate winamp.
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I like Songbird or atunes.
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: I haven't tested them out--actually good?
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Yeah, I think so, anyway.
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: I might have to test them soon. How large of a music library can they handle?
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: UGH. It decided to automatically play it again, even though I have it stopped! 
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: They're currently handling my 7500 collection pretty well.
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: try closer to 40K tracks--I have extremely wide-ranging tastes, unfortunately.
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Heh. I'd have that much (and more) if my brother hadn't sold my old computer for meth. :(
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: ouch, sucks.
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I don't see why it wouldn't support it, though.
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: worth checking, at least... :)
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: And of course, I can't uninstall WMP, either. Lovely.
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: well... you can.. it's just a pain
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Heh. It's not listed anywhere in uninstall. *sigh*
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: hmm, it's possible, but I just installed a hacked OS that had it removed, so it was never there.
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: thus the pain :P
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: What's even more lovely is I can't uncheck the default files WMP plays.
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: I think you can right-click one of those default files and tell it to open with something else...and check do this for all files of this type
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Not for WMP in Windows 7. *sigh* I've already tried that.
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Oh well. I unchecked everything in WMP options, anyway. Hopefully that solves the problem.
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: eh, that's why I don't bother upgrading to new OSes for ages...besides, I'm running old c*** anyway...
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: i wanna see what windows 7 has
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: i run xp and gentoo
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Overall, Windows 7 is great.
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: and i tried vista once hated it
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: really windows 7 better then xp? i feel vista was windows new me
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Much better that Vista, too.
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: i do have an me disk
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: At least Vista is stable
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: but seriously vista just liek me came out too early and they were patchign so many problems it just got crappier
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: i dont know my sister uses vista and calls me once a day to ask how to fix problems
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Yeah. I think that's why they're taking longer with Windows 7.
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I haven't had any problems with the Beta, really. UAC is easy to control (I actually have it turned off), the layout is nicer than Vista.
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: personally i will always have a linux partition just for my programming but i enjoy windows easy program installs 
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I use portable Linux. ;)
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: partly its my fault i use gentoo i ahve to compile everything
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: but ubuntu is just too much like windows doesnt feel liek linux
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: emerge <whatever> is easier than Windows imo :P
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: mac is made for retards
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ubuntu rocks
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: and you can use linux stuff on it pretty easily
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: mac is def what i recommend to non computer people less errors to help them fix
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: windows is nice because any problem a restart can basically fix
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: blah blah blah crashed what do i do restart
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: i want windows 7 to have a game mode
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Heh. I hardly have to restart my computer nowadays.
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: where it turns off non essential processes so i dont ahve to do it
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: currently i have a c# script i run that turns off processes
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: the 5 extra frames per second make a difference
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: in my mind cause 70-75 frames you really cant tell
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: this xp box went down for the 1st time in months... power outage the ups couldnt handle
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: nice ozzy i reboot everynight so that i am in linux all night to run seti
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: speakign of which i gotta get my electric sheep back up
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: so i can make babies digital babies
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i got seti on all the other machines in the house.. 4 of those are debian/ubuntu
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: nice try a gentoo install
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: you have to compile everythign yourself
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: it makes you feel badass
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i wasnt patient enough for all that compiling
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: btw i ahve a general question to all in tech
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: is it odd i have a software engineering degree minor in psychology specializing in human factors and i work a construction job?
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: No, it's pathetic.
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: nope, since your degree is in such a crappy area 
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: I'm a licensed welder working as a programmer
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: partly because the market sucks and is flooded with experienced workers and i only have 4 months of an internship and partly because i love being out in the sun and doign physical work
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: you play muds... your odd in some form or fashion anyhow :P
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: amen Ozzy
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: haha i liek to read
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: and i love to type and make perl scripts
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: who reads.. i script :P
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: so tintin++ give me my perl intake and the game gives me reading and typing
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: yeah, in this day and age, liking to read anything besides romances or thrillers is odd. Disgusting state of affairs the world's coming to.
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: btw if anyone knows of any jobs opening tell me i need more exp in my field to get a job construction doesnt pay to well if you are just starting out 
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: haha i read technical manuals and muds
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: true sign of a crazy person
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: and don't forget that AQs give you puzzles to make your brain work! ;)
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: fbi watch list
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Heh. I was working as an assistant foreman in contruction a few years back. Was making $17.50 an hour.
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: at my school we had all the cs kids fill out the fbi survey thing to determine school shooters 90% where considered to be a shooter type
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: foreman sometimes make less then the workers
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: my one uncle wont be a foreman due to the fact that his pay wont increase as much 
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus grins evilly.
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: he has been construction since he was 17
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: thats how i got this job
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: The workers under me were only getting about $10.50 an hour.
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: seriously
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Yeah.
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: i make 14.75 an hour
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: rehabbing houses
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: tearring down roofs and walls 
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: and putting new ones up since people cant get loans to buy new houses they fix up old ones
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Ah. We did construction from the ground up. :P We were the framers, the roofers, and the remodelers. :P
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: they've been doing that for years, Ageha, but there are more doing it now...
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: nice
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: i liek teh destruction part of my job
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: i get to take out anger and tear shit up
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Sometimes, we hired another group to do the roofing, but we wound up having to fix their mistakes.
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Keep in mind tech is nocurse. ;)
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: opps i forgot sh!t is a curse
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Subbing it out like that is still a curse.
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: i am used to the only words being f b and c bombs
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You can say bitch, just not the s word. :P
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Frog, bunt and custard? I like the last :)
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: seriously?
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I wouldn't have said it if you couldn't.
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: heh, I grew up around steelworkers, construction workers, and military guys, so my language is much more colorful than most of society appreciates...
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: what is up with this word the s word ranks higher then bitch 
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods at Lacrimosa.
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: first word is world
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: a bitch is just a female dog.
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You can't say it on broadcast TV in the states.
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: the cursing starts where the vocabulary ends
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: but i think the s word is in the dictionary
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neleus Tech: of course all of those words are in a decent dictionary
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Doesn't matter. FCC regulations state that it can't be said on broadcast TV.
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: Etymology:
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: Middle English s***, from Old English scite
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Yeah, I know.
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: it is, but it's one of the ?7? words you can't say on publicly-accessible radio communications (including broadcast TV, radio, ham radio, CB, etc...)
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Hey, scite is a fairly decent text editor.
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: i think its just that all the definitions are considered vulgar
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Anyway, now that I have appeared to stop the WMP crap, I'm going to go watch an episode of NCIS and call it a night.
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: ncis what channel?
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immerez Tech: anyone using zmud could tell me how to use the recognize trigger command? I think it's something like %^, then when %^ is seen, you put %1 and it will replace the %1 with whatever the %^ was... 
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snyder Tech: try (%w)
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immerez Tech: ah thank you :D
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: http://news.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/04/14/193217&from=rss
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: this set top box is mostly empty
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what the heck?
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: much like your skull, mostly empty
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: back to your pit
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: hrm, i need a program that, given a small logo in a standard picture format (jpg/bmp/gif/png) and a background layer, it can cast a shadow...
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: got psp5 atm, but it don't do it, jim
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: eh photoshop? but you want something free?
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: free would be ideal
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i might even be able to do it with ms word, it seems
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: hrm, word won't do it quite right
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: how do I enable copy and pasting in mushclient?
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: how would i go about setting up an alias to catch all characters in a room, and then attacking each one? such as to cast an area attack without an area attack. like say there are in a room, a ratling, a minotaur, and a dragon, to c sho min/n c sho drag/ c sho rat.
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: I have room char tags on but do not know how to proceed from there...
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the script becomes more difficult were some of the mobs are targeted only with the same mobword, where c attack 2.mobword  cast attack 1.mobword is required
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: So impossible for someone like me, who can't script to save their life?
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: simpler programming exercise if the mudclient is able to call a "C" subroutine, since programming in C is simpler than programming in some crappy hobbled script language
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Lets put it this way, my knowledge is limited to triggers, aliases, and timers. (barely at that)
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mad Hermit Starky Tech: bot!
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mad Hermit Starky looks around and whistles innocently.
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Darkknowing runs for fear of his botting being discovered
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: note that some mobs do not scan
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: 1. enter a room and consider all, to get the short-description information to look up a database for each mob's keywords
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: thats what i planned on doing but i don't know how to capture that, much less execute the capture
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: 2. select the keywords for each mob, and check whether those keywords are duplicated by a mob earlier in the list, when add 1 to # (init 1) to use in #.'mobkeywords'
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: whoah, i i dont know how to do that. im retarded remember
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: 3. start the attack from the bottom of list up (the highest #.s)  [topdown is defective in the case the # type mobs expire in one hit, when the #.s are likely to change to lower numbers]
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: a "consider all" command causes output to be returned from the mud -- some method is required to know when the mud is finished sending the consider output
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: I just need to know how to capture the consider information, and then save it to a variable or such so that it would work
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: just capture till a blank line
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: HOw?
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: what client?
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: MUSH
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: no clue
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: in zmud, the consider trigs would go in a subclass, along with a trig for the blank line to disable the class
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the method in v4.62 zmud requires numerous triggers based on the consider types. example:  #trigger {(*) chuckles at the thought of you fighting %w.$} {} {conclass} 
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: same for 7.x
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i just like turning off un-needed trigs when not used
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: enable on "con" alias... disable on the blank line after info
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: i dont know how to set a trigger of an alias
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: 4.62 has #T+ right?
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: #trigger {No Problem! (*) is weak compared to you.$} {lookupdbase %1} {conclass}
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: #ALIAS con {#T+ contrig1,;etc etc etc;consider all}
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: as NoPk that area-attack script may be safe -- as a PK character, that area-attack script is not safe, requires extra checks to ensure a pk fight is not started
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: frequent use of #T+- in v4.62 is not advised
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: xyliz, area attacks won't start a PK fight unless you explicitly tell them to
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: in v4.62 use a variable as an on-off flag, not #T
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Abelinc, the pseudo-area-attack script was a series of individual spell attacks based on a consider all
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, hadn't gone back quite far nough to see the part about no area
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, was just going back another 20 lines
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: does anyone know how I can keep a window on top?
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: I wanna mud, while watching tv
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'd be a function of the program itself...some have a "floating window" option
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: otherwise, slide them next to each other such that you can see enough useful parts of both
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: oh, its just a pop-out from hulu.com, probably doesn't have that capability
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: how do I string commands in mush client. run 2s;say yes   doesn't work
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: and I've enabled it
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: is an alias or trigger or something?
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: its for adding commands in a speedwalk
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: new line
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toker Tech: i think u just need to type enter between commands so it shows on the next line
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: you need to make a new line
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Is this just for stuff you're typing into the command line, or is it for an alias?
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: it sends an alias to the command window
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: its a sw plugin
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: make a new line in the alias
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for something in the body of a trig/alias/etc, you want send to execute instead of send to world
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or use a real return instead of ;, since it gives you that huge window
T1/r5/2009-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: mm, that sounds right
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jokerette Tech: Okay, trying to make a trigger in MUSHclient to recast a failed spell. I have You lost your concentration while trying to cast *., and c * as the response but it don't work. What am I doing wrong?
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: the c * needs to be c %
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: c %1
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jokerette Tech: Okay lemme try that quick.
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jokerette Tech: both * need to be that?
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: no only the vluel the patern stays as *
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: value* 
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jokerette Tech: Hmm, still isn't working right for me...
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jokerette Tech: so if I have You lost your concentration while trying to cast *., and c %1 as the response, it should recast?
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: you have  more than 1 *( wildcards) in the matching pattern ?
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jokerette Tech: Nope. Just 1 *.
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: nods it should work at least from when i used mush
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jokerette Tech: Eh, I dunno...
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: anyone here
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: need help to connect to aardwolf via mushclient
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: <auto response> no
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: what difficulty are you runnign into?
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: that autoresponse came a little late :P
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: np
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: gimme a break i'm sleepy :-p
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: hehe
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: i took aardwolfs ip and tried to connect with it
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: didnt work out
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: what port?
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: 4000 and 23
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: same location as your connected from now?
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: try 208.43.193.234
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: im connected via the aardwolf homepage right now
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: try ip 208.43.193.234 ports 4444 4000 23 and 7777
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: yes i used that ip
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: okay ill try the others
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: what operating sys?
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: window xp
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: this is not my computer
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: maby norton is blocking or something
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: can you run a command prompt and connect with plain telnet?
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: got telnet open now
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: how did i connect via telnet again forgot.
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: open aardmud.org
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: no didnt work
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: couldnt apply to host.
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: typed o aardmud.org 23 ?
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: 23 not needed
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: just tried on my xp telnet
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: try all the diff ports
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: open aardmud.org ... ascii wolf
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: doesnt work
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: quit telnet... ping aardmud.org
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: ill just have to do with this until i get my new screen tomorrow
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: that works
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: 181 ms
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: is it behind a router or direct to net?
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: direct to the net
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: what firewall... windows? zonealarm? norton?
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: norton
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: got problems disable it too
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: ill just have to do with this for now
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: just wanted the  2 extra mccp points for my quests today
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: can i get that somehow else on telnet?
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: rofl
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: not the web based client i dont believe... plain telnet you could... mccp client
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: where do i download mccp client?
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: help mccp
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/download/mccp_pc.zip
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: ty for all the help
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: but wont help if you cant get a client or telnet to connect
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: okay.
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: it doesnt work if i connect via aardwolfs homepage?
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: aint the web client hard coded to the address it connects to?
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: for mccp client you connect to 127.0.0.1 and it connects to aard
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jokerette Tech: So I'm trying to make an recast trigger in MUSHclient for spells that fail. I have 'You lost your concentration while trying to cast *.' as the trigger line and 'c %1' as the response line but it's not working. What have I done wrong?
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: enclose %1 in single quotation marks?
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: cast '%1' ?
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jokerette Tech: Nope, didn't work.
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krispin Tech: how do i get the big map to display map in mush client
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: bigmap
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krispin Tech: but it doesnt show in the biig map window
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SolDianthus Tech: Is it possible to set up a trigger so that I cast 'detect invis' everytime the spell finishes?
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the answer is likely yes
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SolDianthus Tech: How do I do that?
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: what client?
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SolDianthus Tech: MUSHclient.
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: pattern: You no longer detect invisibility.    action: c 'detect invis'
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: or pattern: You no longer detect invisibility.    action: c 34
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: might wanna anchor it with whatever mush's chars are....
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SolDianthus Tech: Thank you very much! :D
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: pattern: ^You no longer detect invisibility.$    action: c 34
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SolDianthus Tech: Huh? What's anchoring? :D
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SolDianthus Tech: Ohhh okay! Thanks!
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: in zmud ^ matched the start of a line.. $ matches end of line
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SolDianthus Tech: I see. :)
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: an aard helm skips all that cast 34 
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SolDianthus Tech: lol that's true :)
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: aard helm sucks in comparison to some eq
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SolDianthus Tech: Right. :D
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i'd rather have 20+ DR
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: at what level does the helm suckage start
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SolDianthus Tech: Haha, me too! :D
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: dr 8... so 41ish?
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: by default, MUSH uses glob matching, so it's already anchored
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ahh.. thanks Abe, will keep in mind
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SolDianthus Tech: ...GLOB matching? O.o
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SolDianthus Tech: When the client goes 'World file saved.' a message saying it can't access some 'Aardwolf.MCL' file pops up. What does that mean?
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: that it can't find the file?
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SolDianthus Tech: Haha, okay! :D
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: soldianthus, it means that you're using Vista, and your files are in Program Files folder, and Vista security doesn't let you write there by default
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 3 options...(1) have world files outside that folder, (2) run MUSH as admin, (3) turn off UAC
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: i have a windows 2003 server that wont boot... looks like an mbr problem, but fixmbr and fixboot in the recovery console wont work because it's an x64 system... anyone have ideas?
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Geheaz Tech: anyone know how to use the miniwin plugins for mushclient?
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Geheaz Tech: trying to install the miniwin_cp plugin, but its not working at all
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: from behind !!!! *cough*
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what version of mush?
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Geheaz Tech: im using 4.40 now, had 4.37 earlier
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: and where did you get the plugin from?
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Geheaz Tech: http://code.google.com/p/bastmush/
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: any errors?
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: did you have other version of cp_plugin?
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: for me it f'd up it completely for some reason
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Geheaz Tech: it installs fine, i guess, but then i type 'cp check' nothing happens and the info isnt shown anywhere
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: have you tried to turn the miniwin on?
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: there is command for that too
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: did you also load broadcast_cp?
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Geheaz Tech: how do i do that?
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Geheaz Tech: no, do you need broadcast too?
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: did you download the zip file?
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Geheaz Tech: yeah
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yes, you need broadcast_cp, load that also
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Geheaz Tech: gah, works perfectly when i installed the broadcast, sorry for being stupid :)
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: no problem :)
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krispin Tech: how come mush on xp doesnt load the bigmap window..but vista does??
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SealPoint Tech: It does on mine
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SolDianthus Tech: For some reason my triggers and aliases don't save when I exit my client. What should I do?
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: what client do you use?
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SolDianthus Tech: MUSHclient. 
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SolDianthus Tech: The one on the aardwolf site.
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SolDianthus Tech: I mean, I downloaded it from there. 
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: no clue on mush 
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SolDianthus Tech: If it helps, it says that it can't access some sort of Aardwolf.MCL file everytime it tries to save the world file?
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: does mushclient have built in mccp?
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: or do you have to install it?
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: buildin
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: nice so you dont ahve to enable it? i am helpign someone start aard but i use tintin they dont like tintin
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: if you downloaded the old version of mush that is in aard site, it has everything you need
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: make them do one quest, they get mccp qp+2 from it if it is working.
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: haha ok thanks
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: you can just type compress
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: but most likely it's working. mush seems to have it triggered
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondy Tech: any way I can convince a best buy to replace a graphics card I got by e-bay?
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: fraudulently ?
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondy Tech: no like making the company replace it since it 'should have' been under warrenty
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Best Buy warranties likely only cover the items Best Buy sells, not the e-bay crap
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: was the card workiog when you obtained the card from e-bay
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondy Tech: nope never worked
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: then you were defrauded by the e-bay seller
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondy Tech: it was a christmas gift and I didn't get it right away
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondy Tech: so my dad didn't get the claim in to report the seller (he shouldn't ebay because he is a computer moron)
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondy Tech: wish there was a way to hold the company responsible for fixing/replacing it
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the e-bay seller decided that selling the card on e-bay was more profitable than using the Best Buy warranty -- likely because Best Buy warranty was already voided for some reason
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: buying from e-bay carries risks
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: UGH. WMP still is giving me trouble. Still wants to start up. *sigh*
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sophus Tech: question guys... my channels are being weird. like before a line of gossip it says {chan ch=gossip}
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Type tags off
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sophus Tech: wow cool
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Read help tags :P
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sophus Tech: hey thanks a lot... that was driving me nuts
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: silly question, w/ tintin++ (w/ linux if it matters) the semicolon runs commands consectutivly, so how could i enter one, like to make a winking smily for example?
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: do \;
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: (uses tt++)
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: ahh, is that whats called the "verbatim" character?
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: I think so. you can also use it at the start of a line to escape the whole line
T1/r5/2009-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Airuk Tech: Is there any documentation for the data that follows the spellup tags?
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velveeta Veata Tech: Anyone know how to install xp using microsoft virtual pc 2007 on windows vista home premium 64-bit?
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skinner Tech: anyone handy with flash arrays?
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: Google might be a big company, but their customer services are shocking
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well, "non-existant" might be a better term
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: can you back that up?
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: haven't got a usb pen big enough
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: thank you for the funny joke. but it's kind of meaningless to just claim that something sucks without explaining why
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not that i doubt your claim
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: to cut a long story short - my company and a local competitor's local business listing in google local business search have got corrupted/mixed up. Neither of us can do anything about it as the corruption doesn't appear in our templates, we've both tried deleting the profiles and reregistering but google seems to be pulling stuff from it's own cache somewhere. Google have no contact numbers in the UK, they have no email addresses in the UK, and half the links on their support pages are dead links
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: thus, they're crap
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: there's got to be a time-out to the cache - how long did you resubmit?
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: week ago
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: don't you get a service point of contact when you submit?
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nope
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if there was a way to contact them, i'd not be complaining
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: interesting - there should be a contact of some sort at least in the privacy policy?
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: but they've made a great deal of effort to make sure they can't be contacted in any way
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: call their HQ? :P
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: typical half-arsed american company
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's an internation call. No thanks
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and now bbc desktop has died too, ffs
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: out of whois "Please contact contact-admin@google.com 1600 Amphitheatre Parkway Mountain View CA 94043, dns-adminoogle.com +1.6502530000 Fax: +1.6506188571"
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: linux > windows. discuss
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: thats in america
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: so? You'll get a live person.
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hmm. are you paying for the service?
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: who'll almost certainly have nothing to do with, and not have any details of the UK operations
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yes, dagnir
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no contact info on the contract?
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what uk operations?
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no contract
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: there HAS to be a contact place :) The company is purely US based btw
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just because they have a .co.uk address registered doesn't mean there are any actual uk operations...
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so you're just giving google money without having a contract etc with them?
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: adwords is a credit-based scheme, dagnir
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: somehow I think someone missed the small print :)
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, adwords
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm pretty sure there has to be a contact link there somewhere. going to check it out
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: all this public contribution stuff is bloody stupid, they should leave it alone
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hmm. found support for analytics. dunno if adwords are part of that kit or not :\
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's the local business directory we need the number for
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but google help is really obfuscated. it seems they don't want to touch the subject personally and rather send you surfing links
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: Device scan processed 3957169 of 156031109 sectors - 46 hours 2 minutes remaining
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: don't like this game
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: try it on a 2TB drive
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'd be happy to do that if you gave me one :)
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: relevant - http://viktor.juhe.ee/img/gentoo.jpg
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warund Tech: what is the name of the plugins folder
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: plugins?
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: this scan is happening as a result of  a client's "friend who knows a bit about pc's'
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: or should we guess the name of the software you're using first?
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: computers need a built in tazor to zap friends of the owner who profess to knowing "a little bit about computers" to stop them from "fixing" things
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: then i wouldn't end up looking at a laptop with a broken hard drive, trying to find the 5 years worth of childrens photographs that haven't been backed up that the guy has lost because he "fixed" it by running the factory recovery procedure instead of trying to back up the data first
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: So what's the story on the TPB court case? I heard the verdict was announced today.
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: makers of piratebay got pwned
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: guilty. they'll appeal anyway
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: 1 year and 30some SEK in fines
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they'll appeal, nothing will change
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: why appeal when you can go abroad?
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: eh?
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they can't go abroad, they're in jail
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: at the moment, yes.
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: will be for, what was it, 4 years?
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: 1
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: and $3.5mil in fines
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: heh, that'll learn em
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: $905,000 fine and 1 year of jail each 
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devol Tech: theres a video on their site, just finished watching
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devol Tech: appeals, appeals, appeals ftw
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: heh. people who use the pirate bay are the lowest
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: this drive recovery is'nt looking promising ;-)
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Air-Borne Anadorr Tech: Tigernuts, how did it happen ?
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: laptop crashed, lady's friend of family decided to do a factory recovery without bothering to backup
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Air-Borne Anadorr Tech: omg :)
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Air-Borne Anadorr Tech: do hard drives usually throw some SMART warnings be4 crash ?
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: easier to pay for rapidshare
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: sometimes
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Air-Borne Anadorr Tech: and sometimes just crash even if smart is OK ?
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yup
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Air-Borne Anadorr Tech: _*Panics and begins to look for new HD*
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: I have a chuckload in the closet...
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that won't help, just keep your vitals backed up
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chosig is agreeing with that Tigernuts person again...
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: I quad backup my photos, two hard drives in the compu, one usb and on flickr
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: prolly a tad ott
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chosig looks for someone special to give tiggerwuvvins.
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i back my work/accounts to secure pen, and a dvd backup of everything once every 3 months or so
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Air-Borne Anadorr Tech: I backup only some progs I write. On Flash drive only :( and sync everyday
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: our music/photos/movies/etc are mirrored on 4 machines
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Air-Borne Anadorr Tech: Movies ??
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Air-Borne Anadorr Tech: it's a lots of space
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: i had my compu fry once, powersurge, took out my two drives too, thus the usb (only connected to sync), and flickr in case of fire
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i don't keep movies on my pc
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: the movies are 700mb each
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: waste of space
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Air-Borne Anadorr Tech: ah. mine are 1-10GB each :)
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: xvid looks fine to me
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: never understood the pack-horse mentality some people have wrt music and movies
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: why waste 700mb space in harddrive for movie that you know will be online for atleast several years from now?
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: and the reason 4 machines... 2 are local, other 2 are family in other states :P
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: who want's to waste 12min to download when it can be local
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: much nicer too when the kids cant ruin a dvd
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: yeah, it actually might make sitting to quest in mud a worthwhile time :D
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: should force everyone to live within 30gb :-)
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: rofl
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: in house we are upto 14tb
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ozzy, that's extravant
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: extravagent too
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and egstravagant
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: google... Did you mean: extravagant  
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: he meant too much :P
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: dang... nobody can spell :P
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: are you really saying that you believe what google says?
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: that's like having 14tb of stuff that you never use :D
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: the music is used constantly, the movies, shrug, the kids are always watching one of em on sleepovers
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: the pictures go back to my grandparents childhood, those are staying
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: and who knows when i might need a cpy of Windows 1.0
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: pictures are always ones to keep. there is no one to argue that. let it be porn from internet or family pictures. but 14tb on movies and music, you will never listen them all
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i hear em all eventually... there is always something playing in the house
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: it's only the modern equivalent of the overfilled bookshelf
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nodnod
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: books also take up about 1tb here
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: the one that you never read a book from
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: I've got that :) though the only ones I've not read are in ancient greek
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: ex's books rather than mine
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I bough a buttload of bookshelves when the library was renovating...everyone in the house reads constantly
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: yea.. i dont read Mitchell On-Demand often... but the car does break
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: userflags... prison|noportal
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: mis
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: painful, recovery prog found some lost stuff, but has lost all the directory structure
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: reorganization is easy though
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Virion Tech: my internet explorer won't bring up any websites, is this part of that Conficker thing?
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: hey, what kind of fonts do you guys use?
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pull it Outicus Tech: Fixedsys!
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Vera sans mono here
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: i like the default.. the other fonts distract me from the game
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: im using fixedsys too
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: FixedSys is great for me too
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: yeah.. the others distract me
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Bitstream Vera Sans Mono
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: Arial font kinda looks like your reading from a book
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: it's a nice lloking mono font
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: not very good for the overhead map though
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Duckbat is agreeing with that Borin person again...
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: i didnt come here to read a book :P
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: heh, your reading alot though 
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: damn i didnt think of it that way
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i mainly like the vera cause it dots the 0's
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: and has nice wide capitol O's
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: try using wingding font without going crazy
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: you should have a keyboard with wingding thing too then :D
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i use the medevia font for a lot of graphics
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: medevia without its special font is very ugly
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: un organized and such
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skinner Tech: flash arrays, anyone?
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: hmm??
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i use it mainly for the DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: which is a horizontal line
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Borin roars in victory over his fallen enemy.
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: fixedsys is the only font that works for me
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: otherwise I get annoyed
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: fixedsys is just ugly... hard on my eyes
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: it's the best font for the map
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: makes it very clear to see
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: try bitstream vera sans mono... you prolly wont go back
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: never head of that font
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i can read it easily in 10pt without my glasses even :P
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: plus being mono it keeps "score" and "eq" looking nice
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: what does it mean mono ?
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: Your using zmud right?
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/ttf-bitstream-vera/1.10/ttf-bitstream-vera-1.10.tar.gz
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nod
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: the fonts come from windows or from your client?
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: hehe gnome
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: whatever windows has installed..
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/ttf-bitstream-vera/1.10/ttf-bitstream-vera-1.10.zip
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: just install in windows.. restart zmud and use
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: I just downloaded it
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: very small file, me likey
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: re-wrap it in rar with max compression.. even smaller :P
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: so MUDS were very popular in the 90's, right?
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i liked em in the 80's
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: Now they have pretty colors and stuff
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: they were more exiting in the 80's as they were new.
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ozzy nods at Meeper.
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: well, thats only natural
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: yeah, so more activity but there still seems to be high login counts even now.
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: muddin on a C64 with a 300 baud modem... ahh the memories :P
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: lol
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: I remember when I had dial-up, horrible days they were
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh, yea, and now i gripe about 20M/5M :P
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: yes, people don't know what lag is these days.
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: heh
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: complaining about little moments of lag
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: 12min to download a movie! *cry* *whine*
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: Go to dial-up and they'll all explode of frustration
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: I nearly did
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: I used to mud for hours and hours back then... through to dawn often.
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: these days I hear: 30 seconds to download a 1080p movie? THIS IS BLASPHEMY!
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh.. i do that still
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: being in Aust the least lag was overnight for me.
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: dial-up from AU to US.. that WOULD blow
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: MUDding doesn't require that much internet speed though
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: Even graphical games on standard dsl are fine
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: requires more than most graphical games these days :P
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: oh, darn
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: after all is said and done, it still comes down to how good your connection is even on a mud
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: Well, the combat here is automated, so it isn't horrible
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: why did you ask the original question Borin?
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's not the speed, it's the ping
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: My original question was about fonts, heh
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: oh... heheh
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: In games like achaea, where combat is automated, its basically connection vs connection
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: rather than skill :(
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: game is still fun though :)
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: thought i still had that script...
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Ping to aardmud.org, Min: 78ms Max: 78ms Avg: 78ms
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Ping to aardmud.org, Min: 62ms Max: 78ms Avg: 72ms
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that blows :P
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Ping to www.google.com, Min: 32ms Max: 47ms Avg: 41ms
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: wonder why to aard is so slow
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: lots of people?
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: servers are closer... usta be better in FL, and im in OR
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Ping to tv, Min: 0ms Max: 0ms Avg: 0ms
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Ping to iwuvaard.org, Min: 31ms Max: 47ms Avg: 41ms
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: everything is faster then aard...
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Encoders:  tv (1) - Idle  tv (2) - Idle   tv (3) - Idle   tv (4) - Idle   tv (5) - Idle   tv (6) - Idle   ... time to schedule more shows :P
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: anyone else lost connection?
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: Had to change the port number because my client couldn't connect
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Total Disk Space: Total space is 1,957,396 MB, with 583,949 MB used (29.8%)
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nope
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: I changed my port to 4000, used to be 4010
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: guess that one had a problem
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: holy crap 1957 Gigs?
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: anyone esle use MythTV?
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: or am I reading wrong?
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that's a 2TB drive, for livetv recordings
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: only 1200 gigs here :(
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: holy friggin crap
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: ONLY 1200 GIGS?
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: I have 150 gigs
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: 14TB in house here
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: now you're talking storage :)
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'd be happy with 4-5 :)
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: Scratch that, I have 230 gigs
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: the TV has 2 2TB drives, one for recordings, other for everything else
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: how much does 2TB cost?
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Ozzy, what are you using for your PVR software?
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: 125 or so
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not much
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: MythTV under Mythbuntu
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Mine's stuck on a half-assed Ubuntu/MythTV attempt.
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: wow, incredibly cheap for STEROID size
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: What do you use for your capture card?
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: 2 pvr 500, 2 pvr 150, 2 firewire from stb's
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: erm 1 pvr 500
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Alright... I'm considering wiping my progress thus far and moving to MythBuntu. I tried doing the standard Ubuntu install and installing MythTV later, but it's been giving me lots of trouble.
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: total of 6 tuners
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: mythbuntu is far easier
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i LOVE the mythweb interface
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: schedule shows from anywhere
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: I may sound like a complete NEWB here, but what is MythTV used for?
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: I am bit lazy to go to the site and learn
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Borin starts to hear the faint sounds of a cricket chirping.
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: h 1
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: Darn, looks like I scared everybody off :(
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=mythtv&btnG=Search
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Nah, we're just too lazy to tell you :D
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: 1st sentance you see on google should say
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: although i like the wiki one better... MythTV is a free Linux [1] application which turns a computer with the necessary hardware into a network streaming[2] digital video recorder, a digital multimedia home entertainment system, or Home Theater Personal Computer. It can be considered as a free and open source alternative to Tivo[3] or Windows Media Center.
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: very nice
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: but it is WAY more feature packed then most out there
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: I like free stuff :)
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i loaded Media Center after having initial troubles with myth... i hadda laugh as i was re-installing myth
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: mediacenter vs. mythtv looks like win 3.1 compared to xp
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: Anyone ever tried Gimp? its pretty good for a free image-editing program
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: its getting even closer to photoshop as it updates
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ive used it, but im a lazy person when it comes to new ways
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: PSP 8.0 still suits my needs
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: I like image manipulating, can make lots of funny things with it
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: I recently learned how to make people look pretty
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Stand next to them?
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik runs away in utter terror!
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: recently quit pirating Nero in favor of ImgBurn though :)
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: still no UltraEdit replacement i can wrap my head around
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: ARRR! 
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i own v10 on that though
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: I admit to pirating, mainly because its convenient 
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i buy stuff i use a lot eventually, or turn to opensource
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: like i own zMud :P
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: heh, I dowmloaded zmud...
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Borin winks suggestively.
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: $20 for 20 years aint bad
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: my daughter wont leave linux now, she wont give up Amarok
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: How do I make a trigger so that right when I get into combat, it turns the variable 'hide' into 0
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: I tried using [Fighting: For the Pattern but it didn't work correctly
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: where do I find the aardwolf triggers MCT file I have a better one with all my triggers that I need to replace
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: ok because what I did was get a new CPU, but before that I saved all my important scripts to a file and e-mailed it to myself
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: now that I have my new CPU, im having trouble finding the files I need to replace
T1/r5/2009-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: please help
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: if i have expand variable checked in an alias how do i recall the wildcard?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: dont sound like zmud, so no clue :P
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: any tech studs on right now?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't need expand variables checked for that, but use %1 for the first wildcard
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: better to jus ask a question
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: i figured it out
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: i thought i checked expand variable but i actually clicked regular
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, if you click regular expressions, then the format for the line is different
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: My comp is messed up for some reason.  My windows updater won't run anymore.  All the downloads and installations fail.  Any program that I download lately it tells me the setup file is corrupt.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: i have the same issue, vista?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: yes
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: What the hell did Microsoft do now?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: dl hijackthis and look for any apps  runnin as a proxy ?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: sounds like a virus
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: what antivirus software do you use?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: My AVG anti-virus won't update anymore either.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: now really sounds like a virus
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Oftentimes when that happens, it's because of a DNS trojan.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I know several programs wouldn't update for me once because of a DNS trojan.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: Well, any ideas on how to get rid of it?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Scan for it. ;)
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: Well, my AVG doesn't find any problems...
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: its infected also
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Culpable, download Stinger from McCaffee. It's pretty much their only software that's worthwhile, but it does a pretty good job and the Zlob trojans usually forget to block it
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Then again, you may've been rootkitted already.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: How much does it cost?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: It's free.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Check out your msconfig startup list... see if it's starting anything you aren't familiar with
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: Now you're speakin above my head :p
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Okay, then I'll skip the instructions about the registry. :)
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Are you on XP?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: sounds like linux to me.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: windows... remember.. AVG
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: sorry, just goofing around.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon boggles at Ozzy.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: and either xp or vista.. avg dont do 9x anymore iirc
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: I've heard good things about AVG, Ozzy, but I've /never/ had any results, even on known infected comps.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i have on some items
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: Vista
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: The last time I removed a virus for someone, I found that the trial version of AVG Pro (which includes "anti-rootkit") found a virus which the free version did not
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon gives Mea Culpable a nod, saying, "OK".
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Culpable, go to your start button and type "msconfig" in the search bar
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: pissed me off though when avg followed suit and started quarentining "potentially unwanted apps"
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: hadda restore ALL my keygens :P
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: When it comes up, right-click on it and click "Run As Administrator"
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: When you've got that, let me know :)
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: last i heard majic jelly bean wasnt a virus :P
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Sounds suspicious though
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: just a key tool for windows
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: Found it
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon goes, "OK".
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Go to the tab on the right side (not far right) that says umm... "startup" iirc
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: got it
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: It'll have a list of applications, and their paths
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: You'll probably have stuff like jusched (java update scheduler), ctfmon, etc
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh, 90% of which arent needed normally :P
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: First off, look for anything with an eight-character name of letters and numbers not arranged in any meaningful fashion.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon nods at Ozzy.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I see them. I recognize all of them except for one.  An lxddmon.exe with an unknown manufacturer.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Where is it located?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I see.  It's part of my Lexmark printer.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon crosses her arms and nods slowly and sagely.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: googling for items that are unfamiliar has always helped me determine the legitimacy of unknown applications
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: im doing the same thign and see no 8 charcter thing
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: It can, Imalish, but some sites are also nonsense
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: got a lexmark printer?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: may be more or less than 8 characters
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: yes.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: lxddmon.exe is fine prolly
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: its the tray item for the printer
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: all have names like javascript stuff
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I recognize every other thing there.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: i do not go by any specific site but overall answers of whatever sites google finds
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Culpable, if you want you can disable startup of ctfmon, hkcmd, qttime, and jusched
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i like liutilities for unknown exe's
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: You don't need ctfmon and hkcmd unless you've got a switching keyboard layout
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: You could boot up in safe mode too, and see if the virus is in safe mode too
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: prolly wont have net to dl and test though
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: Well, I don't see anything unusual.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Nods, Rathik... though if he's been rootkitted already he probably won't be able to boot safe mode
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon gives Mea Culpable a nod, saying, "OK".
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Go to your start button
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: And type "cmd" into the search bar -- and again, run as admin
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: But it's at least a pretty decent way of finding out
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: OK. I don't get the question about running as an admin.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Right-click on the application when it comes up, and click "Run as Administrator"
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: In the search bar results list
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: RIGHT click...
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: He's probably already admin
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Doesn't matter
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: ok did it.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: still shows the option
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: If UAC is on, admin isn't admin :P
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon gives Mea Culpable a nod, saying, "OK".
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik has never seen it.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: You should have a black command prompt in front of you
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Ohh, that explains it :P
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: yup
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: hehe
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: i turned UAC off forever ago, gave my mushclient hell
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: UAC = evil
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik nods at Darkknowing.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: This next one will briefly disconnect you from the MUD, so lemme get you the directions before you do them :P
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that's like #1 on list of crap to fix on vista install :P
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: You'll want to type ipconfig /flushdns
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: After that, type ipconfig /release
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: And then ipconfig /renew
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: And last of all, ipconfig /registerdns
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Oladon is good at this :P
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: so do this now?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon nods.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: It'll disconnect you from the MUD
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: But we'll see you again shortly.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: well, see you on the other side.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Hopefully he hasn't already been rootkitted, but... the Zlobs going around right now are nasty. :\
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: this is where remote assistance or vnc shines if you know the person decently enough
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon goes, "Heh."
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Not unless they want their comp infected too ;)
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: turns an hour job into a 2min one
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: done.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon gives Mea Culpable a nod, saying, "OK".
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Leave the command prompt window up
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I did.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: And go to it and type "ping google.com"
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: You should get back a bunch of data about how long your packet took to reach there, and responses
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: Request timed out.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon goes, "OK".
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: This is actually rather suspenseful
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Ping to google.com, Min: 78ms Max: 94ms Avg: 88ms
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: no wait, it's back
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Now type ping 4.2.2.4
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: it came back with a bunch of info.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Will he succeed in removing the virus? Stay tuned after the following messages from our sponsors!
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I'm hoping it's not a virus :(
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon giggles at Rathik's actions.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: It sounds like a Zlob trojan, Culpable
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Here's how the Zlob works.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: Kill it.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: STOP DOWNLOADING PORN !!! ... sry had to :P
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: You get it somehow -- from an email, a website, something. After that, it sets up residence in your computer and starts downloading all sorts of other (possibly random) virii and malware on your computer.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I only look at good porn.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: BTW, I downloaded the stinger application.  HAven't tried to install it yet.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: The other thing it does is sets up manual host redirection so that if you try to search for things it doesn't want you to, it'll block them and redirect you to ad sites
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I haven't seen that.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Try going to www.safer-networking.com
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: What I have seen though is that when I go to a site sometimes it says that the site isn't available, so I click on refresh or back and then it will let me through.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: that site came up quickly.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Hrm, did I get the right address? :P
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Google for spybot s&d
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: http://www.safer-networking.org/
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon looks at Ozzy and goes "Hmmmm."
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Is it .org?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I have spybot installed.  That won't update either.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: that site came up as well.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: http://www.safer-networking.org/en/mirrors/index.html
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Yeah, it won't update.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon goes ooOOooOOoo at Ozzy.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Download the updates manually, Culpable
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I keep getting the bad checksum.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: From the site ozzy just gave
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: best yet... http://www.spybotupdates.com/files/spybotsd162.exe
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Try a different mirror if you're getting bad checksums
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: thats the one hosted on safer-networking
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: save that file to the desktop?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon claps at Ozzy's performance.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon nods.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: And then download the updates package
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: Damn this takes a while.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I am downloading the update file now.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: http://www.spybotupdates.biz/updates/files/spybotsd_includes.exe
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon goes, "OK".
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon beams with pride at Ozzy.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: If you can, Culpable, you'll want to boot into safe mode to use it
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: to use what?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Spybot
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Are you familiar with the interface?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: takes a while but is one of the best spyware products out there
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon rapidly nods twice at Ozzy, in complete agreement.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I've had spybot for a couple years.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: Our tech guy at school recommended it.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Has it been running/updating regularly?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ad-aware used to be nice, seems bloatware now
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Im not sure mine is the same issue, the only thing apparently affected is cmud and zmud, i tried to download then and that when fine until it started saying 'has stopped working, please wait while windows searches for a solution'
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: yes up until recently.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: And, possibly most importantly, do you use the TeaTimer?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I get that same issue DK when trying to install any new programs.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: hard teaching people to not just click allow in teatimer :(
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Culpable, you can run Stinger while you wait for Spybot to dl
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon nods at Ozzy.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: can I close the command prompt?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Uh, yeah, I guess you won't need it anymore
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: OK.  Tried to install the stinger program.  Got this message.  Standalone anti-virus scanner for viruses has stopped working.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I've been getting that all the time lately.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ouch
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: just in the last day or two.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: K... go to your start button, and control panel
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: ok
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: On the left, click "Classic View"
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: *Yay!*  Go Apprentice Oladon!!!  Ozzy cheers her on.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: done
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Then click or double-click "Programs and Features"
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: It's going to bring up a list of stuff you've got installed
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: classic view shouldnt have programs and features
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: done
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: On Vista it does, Imalish
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nod
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: ahh pfft dont use vista
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon goes, "OK".
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: think classic default xp view :P
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Now go through and see if there's /anything/ that you personally didn't install. There will be some, but tell what they are on here
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: needa an "archaic view"
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon snickers with Ozzy about their shared secret.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Check especially for any "virus scanner" or "spyware doctor" or "registry cleaner" entries
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i STILL want my 98se find box back
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: Nope, nothing unusual.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon goes, "OK".
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: In that case you'll want to proceed with installing Spybot in safe mode
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: task manager, processes...
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: You can also try to run the Stinger in safe mode
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon looks at Ozzy and goes "Hmmmm."
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I have spybot installed on my comp, I need to redownload it?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: does it run now cupable?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: It's up, but it won't update.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Processes won't do anything for him, Ozzy...
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Culpable, you just downloaded 1.6.2, the latest version
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: And the includes are all the updates
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: OK.  I hate to do this, but I gotta get to bed.  Have to take the kids to a movie in the morning.  Will be back tomorrow and hopefully ya'll will be around :)
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon beams a smile at Mea Culpable.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: pisser is all new downloads are corrupted?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Can be, Ozzy... depend on the strain of the trojan
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: stinger was just dl'd and broken
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik goes, "Hmmmm."
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: So there will be an episode 2 :)
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon looks at Rathik and goes "Heh."
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: oh yea
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Not necessarily broken, Ozzy
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: true
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Just because it won't /run/ doesn't mean the app is bad
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: needs safe mode test
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon nods at Ozzy.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: this is why my xp core is still on a fat32 partition :P
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Heh. I've got a Mac, running debian :)
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: well, I'm a PC... nanner nanner nanner :P
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I wonder if there is a feasible way to prevent trojan horses besides education
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: shortcut
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Not a truly effective one. Having programs like Spybot and even AVs are only as good as the person knowing how to use them
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nodnod
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I think that most things that prompt the user isn't very helpful :(
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon nods at Rathik.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I think you have to assume that they are going to make the wrong choice at some point
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: even my dad nows how to use teatimer, only had one phonecall from him in 5 years... and it was a trojan
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: simple rule, if your installing something or changing a setting, click allow, if not call me
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon nods at Ozzy.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: click this icon once a month, click check for updates, download any available, then click search and destroy
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: But that's exactly how you get a trojan-- when you install something
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: What if I want to spark up my emails with 200 extra smileys?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I think it's more of detecting which programs are legit, and which are harmful
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: so far, using only places i bookmarked to dl software (majorgeeks, etc) he hasnt downloaded a trojan, this was something in an email, was supposed to be a movie or something
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik nods.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: it was a link and asked him what he wanted to do with it, run or download, he chose run and up popped teatimer
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: So you can run that bill up as high as you want, right?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: mischan
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: old fat, nod
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: mis
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: just to emphasize, i like young and skinny, that was an old fat ps2 :P
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: i prefer the original ps2 ... network card slot as well as HD
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: as far as uncle sam knows
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: dang, nother mis
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dientera Tech: any1 here at all familiar with GoS client?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: GoS?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dientera Tech: mate o mine got me using it when i started, got all my portal scripts etc in it, and now that i'm on vista 64bit it don't seem to wanna work
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: it has a mapper... wow
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: installed outside of Program Files? like c:\gos
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dientera Tech: nah, just installed to where it said
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: try c:\gos\
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i wore many hats...
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: dangit
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dientera Tech: i get a runtime error when i try to run it, 
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dientera Tech: "path/file access error"
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Turn off UAC
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dientera Tech: uac?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dientera Tech: i'm new to vista so might need some explaining :P
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: go to control panel
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: go to user accounts
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: find your account
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: write it down... it's the 1st thing todo on a vista machine :P
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: tell me when your to that point
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: screw vista, windows 7 is waaaaaaaay better even in beta
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dientera Tech: it's not out here tho
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: its not out anywhere, but the beta is
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: are you to that point Dientera?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dientera Tech: i'm the only user so yea
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: the little i've tried vista, it seems like the new windows 98me...
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Ok do you see a thing that says turn user acces control on/off?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dientera Tech: even the 64bit version?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: easier... Launch MSCONFIG by from the Run menu. Click on the Tools tab. Scroll down till you find "Disable UAC" . Click on that line. Press the Launch button. A CMD window will open. When the command is done, you can close the window. Close MSCONFIG. You need to reboot the computer for changes to apply.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: My only problems with Vista is rebooting (takes forever) and UAC -- and I disabled UAC
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: EVERYONE disbales UAC
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Yeah... so I don't see why there's so much hate on Vista!
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: uac = evil
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: UAC=no end of problems
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: The reboot is massively sucky
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ehe
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: vista takes waaaaay to many resources to run as shitty as it does, uac is very restricting, shutdowns and startups take ages, and for some reason i cant cut or delete things on my pc
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: No swearing on public no-curse channels please
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: you can say that on TV no?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: No, you cannot.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I don't think so, Ozzy
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: yes and no ozzy
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: depends on the channel
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Not on broadcast TV.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i meant bc
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Public channels follow the rules of broadcast TV in the States.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: if its a cable only you can pretty much get away with anything
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I don't think I've seen it on cable either
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: correct you cannot say "vista" on public channels 
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik laughs out loud at Imalish.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: lol
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: vista=bad word
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: 7 on the other hand = sexy
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: and my 3yo will tell you so!
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Cable TV does not HAVE to follow those rules. They generally choose to do so because otherwise they can alienate their target audience.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Ah, interesting
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: If, for instance, TBS started throwing in curse words, less of an audience would watch it because they don't want their children exposed to it.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IamMafia Tech: well this sucks, my aliases dont work with my alt and i can't delete them, or they wont be available for my main
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IamMafia Tech: guess its telnet for my alt
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: should planned ahead... #IF (lt = "true") {alt alias} {main alias}
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: #IF (@alt = "true") {alt alias} {main alias}
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IamMafia Tech: ill just use speedwalks
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i had something like that on an old mud, would load diffs upon login name entry
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: anyone using a wp plugin that displays most popular posts and uses statpress for the data?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: Well, I'm back Oladon :)
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon looks at Mea Culpable and goes "Heh."
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon tells Mea Culpable "Welcome back!"
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: Downloading the new spybot now.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon goes, "OK".
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: Question though.  Everything else I've tried to install hasn't been allowed to install.  Willl this be different?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: You'll want to try installing it from safemode
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: How do I get to safemode? :(
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Reboot, press F8 :)
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Reboot, and right before the Windows screen comes up, hit F8 a few times
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Once at the right time is enough :)
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: OK. I remember that now :)
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon nods at Trurien.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: But a few times makes it more likely that you'll get the right time ;)
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: That should work for other programs as well like Stinger?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I think so. Culpable, are you patched properly for your version of Windows?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I don't know.  My windows updater won't update either.  None of my antivirus software will either.  AVG or spybot.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: It may help, yeah.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Safe mode won't have internet, though
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: safe mode with networking :)
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Not very safe if you've got a Zlob, Joelz :P
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Unless it's safe mode with networking, yes. But you usually shouldn't need networking :)
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien rapidly nods twice at Apprentice Oladon, in complete agreement.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: OK, so after I install in safe mode, should I run spybot s & d there, or reboot into regular mode?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Run it there
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Without knowing what a Zlob is, even.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: OK. It's downloaded to my desktop.  I'll go try it in safe mode :)  Any more things I need to know?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon goes, "Hmmmm."
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: You'll want to run immunizations too
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: it may ask you to reboot to fully remove everything
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon nods at Fae Wino Joelz.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: although probably not in safe mode
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: but if it does, definitely say yes, and it'll run a scan on the next boot
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: We're basically hoping that you haven't already been rootkitted.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: OK.  I'm off :)  Thanks all.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Take care!
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: What if i've been rootkitted?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: if spybot doesnt get it, try superantispyware or malwarebytes
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: That means someone will be able to get to your sensitive bits... well your computer's, at any rate... no matter what you do :)
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: screwed in other words :p
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yup something like that. But just like bacteria, some rootkits are good :)
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mea Culpable (
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: No difference?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: None of the downloads would install
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Did you manage to get into safe mode?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: Got the message "The setup files are corrupted. Please obtain a new copy of the program.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: Yes, was in safe mode.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon mutters something quietly to herself.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Try reinstalling windows installer
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: and Stinger again said that the program stopped working.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: How to do that? :)
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Go to google.com, and search for windows installer
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Then download and re-install it
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Do you have your original vista CD?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I'd say boot up off a Linux live CD, download your fix and run it in Windows again.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: But of course, that would be a bit hard to do if your computer is not behaving well enough.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: So no updates or downloads that I do are working?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon nods at Mea Culpable.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: You can try Vista's rescue mode
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I will add that my wife told me this morning that my daughter shut down the computer improperly the other day and it didn't boot up right very well at first?  It did a system recovery?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: my daughter does that to my windows box several times a day :P
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the digitalisation of music is near totally destroying music -- digital music is total crap -- not worth paying for -- CD artists do not deserve any legal protections from piracy
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I'm running a scan with my current Spybot to see if that finds anything :(
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, only artists who release music solely on vinyl should get paid
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon contemplatively looks at Mea Culpable, while slowly nodding her head and going, "Hmmm ...".
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Ooh
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: You know what you can do
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Run the includes file -- that should at least succeed
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Then go to Spybot's options and set it to run on startup next time
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Then reboot
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: Includes file?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: The spybotsd_includes.exe that you downloaded last night
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I never downloaded anything last night.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: had to leave before that.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon looks at Mea Culpable and goes "Hmmmm."
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Ah, okay. Where's Ozzy with those links when you need him
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I should have taken more computer classes in school...
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik goes ooOOooOOoo.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Heh. Go to www.safer-networking.org and look for "includes files"
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I just looked at my Spybot and it is version 1.62.46
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I thought I only had 1.52
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon goes, "Hmmmm."
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: http://www.spybotupdates.biz/updates/files/spybotsd_includes.exe
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: sorry im late... didnt know the session was starting so early :P
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon beams with pride at Ozzy.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I am manually downloading the newest updates for Spybot.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: We'll see if that file gets corrupted as well.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: can get you to rename and i could host as spybotsd_includes.zzz if it does
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon nods at Mea Culpable.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I don't know what Ozzy just said :)  Download complete.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I have a scan with spybot currently running, so I'll wait until that's done before I try to install it.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i wouldnt.. just gotta rescan with the new includes... and the trojan is prolly a recent variant
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: close spybot and see if the includes will install
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: NSIS Error.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: right click it and choose run as administrator
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: Still NSIS.  Says the file might be damaged or corrupted. Says it's possible to skip this check?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: no
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: youll want to reboot into safe mode and try it
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: if it still fails... we'll try the rename thing i mentioned
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: OK.  I'll go try help mode again :)
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh... help mode... is that what safe mode is called in vista
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: NSIS error in safe mode.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: So I need to fix this thing, but I can't download anything that will :p
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: You don't happen to have a second computer, do you?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: Nope.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: wondering if you can download a non exe file... spybotsd_includes.zzz and then rename it in safe mode
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: Sniff....
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I can't download anything...
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: You are able to view web pages though, right?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: Yeah..
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: So not all of your downloads are being corrupted -- html files seem to be working
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how about ftp from command prompt?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: thus i could upload a .zzz file, then Cup can rename in safe mode
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: Well, sometimes when i go to websites.  It will say the web page is unavailable, and then when I click refresh, it will come up
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that's diff
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: someone walk Cupable through showing extensions... i dont know Vista :P
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ill up the includes with a diff extension
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Cupable, can you get to this page? http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/1269/vista_show_unhide_file_extensions/
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh.. i dunno why i aint been seeing the "l" in your name :P
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ph 18
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oops
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I have the page up
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: follow the instructions to show extensions
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: Done.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: download this... http://www.conradshome.com/spybotsd_includes.zzz
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: you should see the .zzz extension after download... goto safe mode and then change to .exe
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: then see if it runs in safe mode
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: downloading now.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: hopefully the trojan is stupid and wont mess with a .zzz file :P
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: OK.  I'll try and that and let you know when I'm back.  Gotta go out and check the kids quikc.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nod
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: dont rename until in safe mode
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: Same NSIS Error message.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: bummer...
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: you say it only started happening a few days ago?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: Yes.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: might try a system restore from last week or so
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: problem lies in ozzybot, it's ruining everyone right now
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: That's about when I started having the problems.  After my daughter shut down improperly. Did a restore and been a pain ever since.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: otherwise, just pick restorepoint day before when it appeared
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: How do I do that?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I'm a simpleton.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: that means you are running xp or vista...both have different places :)
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Vista
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: ozzy is expert for vista! ask him!
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: BS
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: trying restore. Back in a bit.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: Done screwing with it.  Restored back a week ago and still nothing will update.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: Well. I am at a loss.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I did a restore back about a week.  There were 10 updates that windows was supposed to do. It actually did do 4 of them, but 6 failed.  That's the same number of updates that failed before the restore as well.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon goes, "Hmmmm."
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I'm nervous about this being a virus since my wife uses the computer for her jewelry sales and enters in credit card information and submits orders.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: :\
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: your restore does not refresh the mbr ?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: vista is a crappy system for somebody that is not a techy
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: mbr?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: master boot record
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if a virus gets hold of the "master boot record", they are often entrenched 
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I wouldn't even know where to look for that :(
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: It's true of any OS, not just Vista.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: were you using a "Ghost" backup to DVD/CD -- restores from a Ghost DVD/CD backup are able to refresh everything including the mbr 
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I just did a system restore.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: riiiight -- did microsoft-software use a diseased corrupted system to run the system restore, or was the restore done from an uncorrupted DVD
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: No I didn't use a DVD.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: some folk raison d'etre is to write viruses to corrupt microsoft-software - there is a suspicion that they also work for microsoft
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warund Tech: anyone vi here
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: not sure, but it's worth just asking, people on this channel have a habit of knowing stuff
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Warund, did you check out "help vi-index"?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: vi, the *nux torture editor ?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Err, sorry, just "help vi"
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: to use vi without migraine, excellent typing skills with a photographic memory are required -- being a *nux nerd/geek also helps
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or just understanding modal editing
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: anyone here use a download manager?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I do.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: any good ones out there.  Everything I download is corrupted :(
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I use Internet Download Manager. Not free, but it's a really good program, in my opinion.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: My problem will be is that I won't be able to download it :p
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Why ask about programs if you can't use them?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: Will a hammer kill anything inside my comp :p  I don't know.  I'm not sure if it's my explorer or what corrupting my downloads.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Did you check for DNS changer trojans? Scan with Malwarebytes. :P
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Oh wait, you can't download.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: Ah, therein lies my problem Charn.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: perhaps Microsoft is waiting for you to buy a retail version of Vista so you may reinstall your software, or Best Buy is waiting for you to buy a new computer -- (but maybe you lose all personal data on the old computer -- but they do not care if they get extra money out of you)
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: My windows update will download the updates but then won't install them.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Have you run any online virus scanners?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xyliz dislikes Microsoft updates -- those updates invariably screw the system badly on some machines
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I was told that online virus scanners can be bad.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: of course I'm not in a position to be picky.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Nah. They're generally harmless. However, most of them will only scan and not remove.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: If you choose a reputable site, then you shouldn't have an issue.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: any suggestions on one to use?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: What browser are you using?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: Internet explorer
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: wating for somebody to invent a computer virus that goes in and causes every infected machine to fail GenuineCheck.exe -- no more updates
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Ugh. I dislike internet explorer, honestly.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: looks like somebody invented a virus that screws with microsoft updates
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Xyliz: Can you please stop talking? You're being very rude and distracting.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Culpable: were you ever able to get Spybot S&D to work?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: It scans, but I can't update it :p
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: And it doesn't find anything to delete?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: It only found one cookie.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Try this site: http://support.f-secure.com/enu/home/ols.shtml
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: check your Temp directory to see if a bug relocated/duplicated the Internet Explorer Temporary Cache to the Temp directory -- if that happened, anything coming in is unlikely to be accessed
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: It keeps telling me that I don't have rights to access that ActiveX control.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Are you running as admin?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: yes
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Does it say the same when you visit this site? http://www.bitdefender.com/scan/license.php
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: Bitdefender is loading now.  We'll see.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: Says could not load the online scanner.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: something is preventing me from loading anything onto my computer...
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Try going into safe mode and loading those sites.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: that happened to me -- all the cookies disappeared -- yet a check of the Cookies directory indicated all important cookies were there -- the Temporary Internet files directory was also (relocated to) and found in the Temp directory  (but this was Win98se -- perhaps a similar bug is in Vista)
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Internet Explorer downloads to somewhere, but the nonExplorer part of the system never finds those downloads since there is a disparity in locations
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: yes.  All still corrupted.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: check to see where Internet Explorer says your Temporary Internet Files folder is located
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Invest-In Nikkei Tech: anyone knows much about internet browsers? which one uses the least system resources? (ram etc)
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: telnet?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: lynx probably uses the least
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I don't have benchmarks on hand, but I'm guessing it's Chrome
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Or telnet :P
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Invest-In Nikkei Tech: er ... telnet aside ....
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: for windows, offbyone
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A winner is Not an Imm Erikson!
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dfury winks at Princess Khelda.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: hi there I need your help please
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: im trying to reinstall the spellup plugin for MUSH
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: but I keep getting this error
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: Line 1166: Unexpected end-of-file inside [CDATA[ definition (problem in this file)
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: any idea wut that means and how I can fix it?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: the spellup plugin is directly from gammon website
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Invest-In Nikkei Tech: may have to remove the plugins, save, then readd the plugins?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: I will try
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Invest-In Nikkei Tech: under file>plugins
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: its not there nikkei
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Invest-In Nikkei Tech: theres already no plugins listed under file > plugins?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: you want me to reinstall all of my plugins?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Invest-In Nikkei Tech: the ones giving you trouble only
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: its just the spellup one off gammon website
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Invest-In Nikkei Tech: remove existing spellup plugin listed there, and re-add the plugin you want?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: ya... it keeps giving me the same error when I try to load the plugin
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: Line 1166: Unexpected end-of-file inside [CDATA[ definition (problem in this file)
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Invest-In Nikkei Tech: remove the plugin, save the world file, restart the world file, is there still error msg?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Invest-In Nikkei Tech: most common problem is caused by one of the plugins listed there not being at its original location
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Invest-In Nikkei Tech: if it's not too troublesome, remove all the plugins, save world, close and reopen, and readd back plugins
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Invest-In Nikkei Tech: if that didnt work, perhaps you should try aardwolf's inbuild spellup fxn, see help spellup
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tamariel, try opening up the spellup plugin file in a text editor...go down around line 1166 and see if the file ends near there
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: That so sounds like an urban myth :P
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: It does, doesn't it.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Do tech -h culpable. :P
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: And then go read the Vista forums ;)
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: hmm, i downloaded and installed a bunch of updates a few days ago but have not restarted my computer yet
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: is there any way i can uninstall them?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain Flygo Tech: wait...
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain Flygo Tech: you can download and install updates having your computer reboot?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain Flygo Tech: my computer auto-reboots itself without my permission :(
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: You can turn that off, Flygo
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: hmm?  yeah i had to set it to do that
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain Flygo Tech: can you turn it off in the vista home versions?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: well i have vista home
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain Flygo Tech: how do you turn it off?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: i don't see anything about this on microsoft's main page
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Check the Vista forums... I honestly don't think MS knows about it yet. I just spoke with a friend who works for them, and he didn't know about it.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: Google news doesn't come up with anything, either.  Just a quote from the cheif operating officer:  Vista is the "most secure OS on the planet" :P
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Map Freak Ithilion rolls his eyes, disgusted.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon sniggers quietly to herself, reflecting over an amusing thought.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: i was looking on digg also, they usually have articles about that sort of thing
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: most secure, maybe, but, definitely the most bloated :P
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Megawatt Tech: I haven't had any problems with Vista either and I've checked my updates for days.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: ok...
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Megawatt Tech: And my AV is also functioning normally...hmmm
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: I just did a complete reinstall of MUSH 4.33
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: i think this is a bogus rumor...i'm not finding anything about this anywhere
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: are there any issues I should know about with the spellup plugin that came up while I was gone?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: I've had it confirmed by an employee of Microsoft... did you check the forums?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: where are the forums?
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tamariel, I suggested checking the file in a text editor to see if it does end unexpectedly around line 1166
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You giggle in his presence.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mis
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: Don't see anything in the Vista forums I'm looking at, either in the announcements, or any thread that's been active in the past 48 hours...
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: which one under http://forums.microsoft.com/
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Heh. I can't find it, either.
T1/r5/2009-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: man, can someone please point me to the official announcement of this problem with Vista so i know whether or not to restart my computer? heh
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there is no official announcement
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Yeah, but we can't find any word of it ANYWHERE.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: i just want to see where they're talking about it!
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: i can't either, Charneus
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: No links have been posted. Madcatz said he didn't see anything for 48 hours on Vista forums, and google doesn't bring up anything.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: Granted, I didn't look THAT hard :P
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I did, and I can't find even a hint of it.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: i was stymied by a list of dozens of different forums on Microsoft's site
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: how do you change xml files into mcl files?
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Why??
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: You don't
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: my cpu for some reason cant recognize downloading mcl files
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: if u wanna help me out please send me the spellup.mcl file
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I imagine it's just a blank world file
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: correct
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: With a host of 0.0.0.0
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, it is
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: yes
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: In that case, if you have MUSHclient, you can just make one yourself, no?
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: how do I create?
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: file->new world.  Name it spellups.mcl
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: What Madcatz said
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Host should be 0.0.0.0 too
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: HappyDog Madcatz nods.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: then what?
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: do I use an existing world?
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: No
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: file -> new world
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Just a world name of spellup and a host of 0.0.0.0
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Then save and close it
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Then I assume you want to install your spellup plugin
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: plural, name Spellups
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: What spellup plugin requires this, anyway?
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Or which one are you trying to use?
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gammon's
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Ah
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: Line   13: Plugin "id" field must be unique for this world (problem in this file)
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's how capture windows work in MUSH...they're just empty world files
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tamariel, did you get that when trying to create the new world, or when (after creating the world) trying to re-add the spellup plugin
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: anyone here use irssi on windows?
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: can't change windows for some reason :\
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarDog Tech: I need a real geek to step up - I have 3 old home PC's that I took the hard drives out of - Is there a way to hook these up and see whats on them , say from a laptop or another home PC ?
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure, various ways
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarDog Tech: can you point me to some source where I can see how to do this ?
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if another home PC, just hook them up like a regular hard drive...the PC has more spots
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you don't have to be a geek for that
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you can train a monkey for that
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WarDog doesnt eat nanners.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you took them out of the old box, so you must've known how to do that part
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humpton Tech: just remember to change the jumpers to make them the slave
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarDog Tech: I can tear shit apart no problem , but thats about it.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: alternatively, for under 15 bucks, you can buy a dongle that will turn any drive into a USB drive
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when doing that, you don't need to know/care about jumpers & such
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarDog Tech: a donlge ? thats what it is called ?
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humpton Tech: taht would certainly be nice :)
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: www.lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+install+a+harddrive
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarDog Tech: hmm thats Dagnir - Ok , so can you run two or more hard drives at once ?
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: here's one that I use: http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=2020
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarDog Tech: geeks.com looks like an intersting place - thanks for the help !
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WarDog bows deeply.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: Anyone else with Vista having issues with Windows Update?
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: Nope
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: is something happening?
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: some fix that breaks everything was released according to tech board. no links added and i haven't bothered to do the research
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: culpable was part of the beginning of the post on tech board ;-)
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I can't download any new updates.  They all fail.  Then I can't download any files from the Internet.  Well, I can, but they're all corrupted and won't install.  My antivirus and spyware won't update either.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: Just trying to determine if it's a virus or a problem with windows.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if the programmers at Windows are paid bonuses to find bugs, you may be assured that there are going to be lots of bugs in Windows -- and Windows Updates are going to be atrociously buggy
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: Culpable, what you are describing sounds a LOT like Confliker.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and there we have xyliz with the wonderful nuggets of reasoned wisdom again
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Do you listen to the same Xyliz as the rest of us, Abe?
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You snicker with him about your shared secret.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: Go to Microsoft's security website, download their latest Malicious Software Removal Tool, run it and hopefully that will be a good starting point.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hehe, the "I can't download anything without it being corrupted" thing makes that interesting ;-)
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: Tried that.  Program won't work after download :p  Trust me, i've downloaded many different kinds of programs :p
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to the library, download it there
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars nods at you in agreement. 
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: burn to CD or flash drive
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: that may be assuming the virus/trojan did not ruin the system so that GenuineCheck fails
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I can't run Genuine check.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why?
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: Program stops working whenever I try to install it.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: licensed copy of windows?
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: I didn't mean download it via the automatic update, I meant download it from their website... but if that's already been tried and failed, there are walkthroughs on how to manually get rid of this.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: And I don't know for 100% certainty that the issue you are having is Confliker.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dath Tech: my xp is tiny
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: try Stinger
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's not the only thing about you that's tiny
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: Stinger won't install either :p
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: doesn't need an actual install, very nice tool for most common virii and stuff
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: tried them all. hijackthis, stinger, malware bytes.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: Do you back a restore point available thats 6+ months old?
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: No.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: ewww, if stinger won't run it's bad...
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: there are loads of free conficker removal tools online
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: Well, before you put TOO much time into this... I'd suggest considering formatting.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: culpable, for the "won't install" instead of the "won't download" stuff, where did the files come from? download?
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: ?  I can download anything, but nothing installs.  It either says the setup files are corrupted or in hijackthis case, it says the program has stopped working...
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dath Tech: get ubuntu, dont look back
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'd just nuke it from the orbit
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nah. i have to look back when on my linux box
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: can't use foobar, zmud and utorrent
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dath Tech: what is foobar?
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: music organizer/player
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dath Tech: i use audacious, tintin and transimission for torrents
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i use tinyfugue occasionally, but i'm not too good with it
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: deluge looks like a promising client for linux, but i'm sticking with utorrent for now
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: moving to a seedbox with r/wtorrent in the future tho
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: audacious is a "play this song" player, not a music organizer
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but nothing beats foobar2000
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: i use torrentflux for torrents
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: some things that I try to run say they fail because it doesn't have a digital signature?
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: your date and time right?
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: In the lower right corner? Yes.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: my problem with torrent clients is the migration, too. i have around 300 torrents/folders to move around in that case
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: won't let me run do the online safety scan for windows either :p
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: At least I can still use the programs I have :)
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: still haveing problems ?
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: Yeah, but I gave up on fixing.  Maybe it's my computer, or router, or something...
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: were you ble to  get the hijackthis app  dl'd from another computer.. from dwonload.com ?
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: seems like  it could be a strain of that conficker worm
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: basically it has a load of proxies on your computer preventing you to help yourself
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: The only other computer I have access to is going through the same router.  I downloaded on that computer and nothing would install on that one or this one :p  The downloads on that one were corrupt as well, and that one hadn't been connected to the internet for months, I just hooked it up last night, so I'm thinking maybe it's something with our service..
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dath Tech: The origin of the name Conficker is thought to be a German-language portmanteau of the term configure with ficken, the German word for fuc*
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: starring a word doesn't make it not a curse word
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: yes it does
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dath Tech: technically, yes
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: not according to the mud rules, thank you.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it doesn't...it remains against policies of this MUD for public channels
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dath Tech: i didnt know it won't happen again
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: Tried to reregister some dll this morning from instructions from microsoft and it told me that some of them were corrupt or not useable?
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: nods, wasn't intended as harshness, just as an fyi so you don't break them unwittingly in future
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dath Tech: it came from wikipedia
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dath Tech: thanks
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: if you dont have another comput that isnt infected culp  prolyl best to just back up and wipe :p
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: Hmm.  I am trying to update spybot and I clicked on one update from 3-25 and that one came through.  Any others past that date return as bad checksum....
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: got viruses?
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: thats the conf- for ya
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: but hijackthis is  one of the first tools i use in helping others with problems, kills a lot og BHO-browswe helper objects and  you can see redirecting proxy crap as well
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: has anyone found out anything more on that Windows Vista update thing that was posted on the Misc board yesterday?
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I know I haven't. I spent the good part of 3-4 hours looking for it, too.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Sounds like the Conflicker worm to me :P
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Especially the "sometimes 404 errors" part.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: yeah
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycynder Tech: anyone know if there is a way to convert cmud 2 maps to cmud 3 maps?
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: just opening the map file in cmud 3.x doesn't do it?
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycynder Tech: didn't work for me
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycynder Tech: I will try again I was running cmud in vmware, I haven't tried in true windows
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycynder Tech: I will try again I was running cmud in vmware, I haven't tried in true windows
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycynder Tech: whoops
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: assuming you are using windows in vmware it should be the same thing
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: when openng the ma in 3.x do you have the functionality that was added available?
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tensaw Tech: anyone know of a spellup script runtime error upon gaining haven?
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: do we have to guess what client and script are you using?
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: prolly mush
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tensaw Tech: Well, no.  I could tell you.  It's the MUSH script, from gammon's website
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you try to add haven, or to add "all"?
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and the error is just 'runtime error'? no other info?
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tensaw Tech: Runtime error occured upon leveling and gaining the level for haven...
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: haven isn't a spellup, it's a room modifier
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: How old of a version of the spellup script do you have?
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: The original version couldn't handle new skills/spells being added to the game
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: If you have a more recent version, you need to type 'spellup refresh' if you haven't done so since new skills/spells have been added.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tensaw Tech: something about skillgain called by trigger....
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tensaw Tech: yes...seems to be missing the SN
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tensaw Tech: oh well
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: If you have a recent version, reinstalling will fix it, as it does a spellup refresh upon install
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: If you have an old version of the script, you'll probably want to get a new version
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tensaw Tech: thanks
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tensaw Tech: yeah..function skillgain not found or had previous error.  This now occurs when I improve...doesn't show the new percentage
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: So I'm out of the loop. Is CMUD usable yet? It's only been out for how many years now?
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mud client development is not rapid
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: So that's a polite way of saying no. :P
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: it's better... mapper was redone
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I couldn't say
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Oh, yeah? That's the thing I was really waiting on.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: but only "most" of the bugs are gone
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: redone, but usable?
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I'm used to the bugs in the ZMud version. If you told me it's not supposed to work this way I'd probably argue.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nodnod :P
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://davos.aardcharn.com/ are the only public scripts I know of yet
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: im still not over him fixing some of the "bugs" in zmud :P
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so other than that, you'd need to convert everything you use
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: where can i download telnet for free?
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: still no bigmap
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: There are other scripts in the Package library, too.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your OS came with it already, swangin
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: it did not
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sophus Tech: what are the "bugs" in zmud you're talking about?
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes it did
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there are a number of bugs in zmud
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: See what I mean? People are used to the devil they know.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: i have vista and i cant use the telnet command in cmd
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Only because you haven't enabled it.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: been a while since i imported to cmud, but there were some scripting things that were fixed in cmud that i use as a feature in zmud
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sophus Tech: i'd use the aard client but i can't figure out how to get the commands to stay on the typing... line.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Obyron rapidly nods twice at Ozzy, in complete agreement.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sophus Tech: and that's big for me i spose
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Vista comes with Telnet, but it's disabled by default.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: swangin, it's not installed by default...go to modify windows and install it
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Sophus: #sub and #psub on ansi triggers is broken, for one
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I love the Aard take on Mushclient, but I'm way too spoiled by having a mapper to make the switch.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but it does come with telnet
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I would love the aard take on mushclient more if it weren't at least a year out of date by now
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: can someone tell me how to get telnet on my os
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you already have it, Swangin
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Swangin, have you tried google?
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: how do i install it
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Google it, Swangin. Google 'enable telnet on vista'
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: yes
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: You don't, you just download it.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: swangin, go to control panels, go to add/remove programs
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nick just needs to make a mapper for mush and he'd get a lot of converts
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes you do ola
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: no such thing as add/remove programs
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: its not here
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Nod, I'd been using Mushclient for a while for MUSHes and MUXes and I always liked it. It was cool to see it get picked for the aard client project.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I want him to finish his visual inventory project first
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: programs and features
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Instead of arguing about it, go here: http://www.arsgeek.com/2007/03/20/enable-telnet-in-windows-vista/
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in programs and features, select turn windows features on or off
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: not there
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Actually switched to it from SimpleMU back in... 2002ish, maybe 03.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Back when it still cost money.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, if you dont have programs and features control panel, you've got other issues
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i started on tt++, moved to zmud around 4.xx
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Oblig:   If you're using Vista you already have other issues.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You giggle in his presence.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: zing!
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: windows 7 is almost out
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'm excited
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: vista is actually way better then xp
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You pat Swangin on his head.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: in some ways that's true
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: in other ways it isn't
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: says the guy that can't even find a primary control panel :P
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: if you buy ur comp from microsoft and dont make it yourself, you have problems
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: so looks like vista is the new "ME" of the world
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't buy computers from microsoft
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: There were things I liked and things I didn't, and the balance was far enough to the latter that I went back to XP.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can't buy your computer from microsoft
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they've never sold computers
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: if you buy a comp period
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sophus Tech: i used a client called fireclient for the longest time
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: You'll pardon me for not building my own laptop. ;)
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: the world is lazy
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir attempts to make Swangin close his mouth in the interest of peace.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: laptops are okay to buy
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Obyron: I won't.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Thanks for the permission.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Swangin: Do you see 'System and Security', 'Network and Internet' etc etc? You're probably on standard CPanel. Click on Programs, and you'll see what Abe was referring to.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, the OS is no different whether someone else assembles the parts or you do
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Whoops. I forgot: Swangin has me on ignore.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: they dont usually sell parts to make your own laptop
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Oh well.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: There's a point where my time is worth more than I save by assembling parts.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Stick it Inicus laughs out loud at Alt. Helpa Charneus.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Swangin: Do you see 'System and Security', 'Network and Internet' etc etc? You're probably on standard CPanel. Click on Programs, and you'll see what Abe was referring to.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (and that, kiddies, is why using ignore is silly...even people you don't like will give you great helpful information every now & then ;-)
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ignore --> You are not ignoring anyone.... i mean how long can you hold a grudge :P
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Ozzy, apparently for over 2 years (which is how long I've been on Dalcia's ignore list)
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: rofl
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: thanks to the tech ppl that helped me
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: fiendish
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: =]
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: You're getting the up side of that deal.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I've been on dave's for something like 5 years
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus snickers with you about your shared secret. 
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh, it's like come on, grow up
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: People manage to ignore me all the time without having me on ignore.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A bright, shiny gold halo appears over Apprentice Oladon's head.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Truthfully, I don't know what I did to get on half those people's ignore lists. ;)
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ira Deorum Velian giggles at Apprentice Oladon's actions.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: pissed in their cheerios some how or another
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: I don't really use ignore much either, except temporarily.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus grins evilly.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: you don't get an echo, so nice try :P
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Let's see... Swangin, Craigath, Quietmen, Dalcia, Abunai, Jadot, Pallidonius (or whatever) and a couple others (I think). Bah.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: current only ignorers: Dave
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: online, rather
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: anyone i ever ignored doesnt play anymore
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I've never ignored anyone
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I have. Wolfstar.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: this channels quiet tonight.  not a single message in over an hour. hmm
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish lols.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ira Deorum Velian throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: god.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: If ever there were two polar opposite people in the world who should never talk to one another...
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, only person I have ignored is Lasher ;-)
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I had santa ignored for a while
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: I do that all the time,...
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but I felt bad about even that
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: like it violated my principles
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: also my principal
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but that's a different story
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: im just hoping Lemon followed thru
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: It's not school I hate, it's the principal of the thing.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: speaking of stories. hey you. post the contest entries.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Ozzy: That's kind of messed up, though.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: or at least send them to me
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: they'll go into the gaardian
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sophus Tech: is there an open source mud client?
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: yes
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sophus Tech: cool, is it any good?
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: tintin
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: tintin is amazing
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: There are a number of them, Sophus
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: have you tried google? there are many
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: TinyFugue...
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sophus Tech: yeah i figured, just thought i'd get you guys' opinion
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: but mushclient is open source now I believe
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: TinyFugue is the best.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sophus Tech: right on, thanks folks
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: There's also KildClient, and Timeghost's personal Linux client, the name of which is escaping me...
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: Does anyone know of a spellup plugin for the aard mush client that will work with vista?
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: doesn't the gammon one work?
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the spellup plugin doesn't care what OS you're using
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but vista presents issues for MUSH itself
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: No, it doesn't work with Vista. Another person has also had this problem.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes it does, but you have 3 options...
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (1) turn off UAC, (2) run as admin, (3) move the files outside Program Files folder
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: what are the options?
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: What is UAC?
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: and run what as admin? Mush?
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, mush
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vista doesn't allow programs to write to their own directory by default
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: I run vista and i use the gammon spellup plugin
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: hmm ok i will give that a whirl
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: what version of vista do you have tho? I'm running ultimate
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: would you only need to run mush the first time you run the plugin as admin then?
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so MUSH isn't allowed to save changes/settings, without one of those 3 things being done
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: me too
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, right-click on where you start MUSH, and select run as admin and save it to always do it
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: Okay, cool. Thanks
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: doesn't matter what version of vista, the UAC (user account control) is universal in all of them
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: how would i turn off uac? What is it?
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: here is a link on how to turn it off and what it is http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/disable-user-account-control-uac-the-easy-way-on-windows-vista/
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: Thanks
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: btw i hear alot of times it leads to vulnerabilities but i am not a vista expert
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: Is the uac thing the thing that keeps asking about whether you want to run a program?
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: sort of
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: oh thank you LORD! Thanks!
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: i think uac is windows way of trying to have a root 
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: Root?
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: linux root account is only account that can install stuff 
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: so to install things you have to put in root password
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: oh
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: stops random installs
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: windows took that idea i am pretty sure to try and beef up security
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: I've been thinking about teaching myself to program in flash, but have got 0 experience there.  Anybody know a good way to get started?  (without buying $700 development software ;) )
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: read a book
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: great.  Got any titles in mind?
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: hey. anyone know anything about this new game console thing?
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: flash sucks
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: that's a somewhat broad question, camlorn
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I heard Sony is making a Playstation 3.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I hear it's supposed to run fully off the internet; the person whom told me of it did not tell me what it was called.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You giggle in his presence.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I heard Microsoft is making a gameboy color
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: i'm looking forward to that nintendo revolution, or whatever they're calling it nwo
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: They're even going to design their own processor for it. I'll believe that when I see it.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: what does 'flashy' things better than flash?  
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: silverlight?
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: so you've heard of it; it's supposed to stop pirating...
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: hey, do blind folk like "Flash"
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: define better
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: onlive?
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes xyliz
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: but I think it'll incourage it to to become more vicious, as we'll simply find the protocol or something. and no, imho, we don't like flash.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: by that line of thinking, movies suck
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crieus Tech: i haven't seen much silverlight... but what i have was all database front end stuff.  I'm looking for cheesy graphic animation
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Dreamworks.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: goes to wikipedia.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: well, flash can be fun, is all I'm saying. really it depends on the codder.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: coder.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: codger
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: also, it depends on whether or not you have remaining sight, which I do. I do watch some flash videos on a 40 inch plasma.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: and play some video games, though I can't read text:(
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: badger
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: mushroom
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: why do i always have to be snake? :(
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: HEY PURR, SPEAKING OF SNAKES
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: I await breathlessly.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: That one-liner, not unlike the cheese, stands alone.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: I always felt so sorry for the cheese. Stands alone, gets cut..
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: anyone had problems with ie8 in xp64?
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: thinking of installing it is all :/
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Killbill Tech: I can't use copy & paste suddenly (in mushclient) .. what's wrong ?
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jokerette Tech: I have the same prob every now and then, dunno what's up.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Are you trying to use ctrl+c and ctrl+v, or from the menu?
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jokerette Tech: keyboard shortcuts
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Killbill Tech: um.. just random ? / I did both. 
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you can't do ctrl+c, go to file->global preferences->general, make sure the "all typing goes to command window" isn't checked.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Wouldn't affect pasting, though
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Killbill Tech: I can copy & paste with mouse only one time.. can't do it(paste) again
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei shrugs helplessly.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jokerette Tech: That worked.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jokerette Tech: thanks Leinei
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Killbill Tech: no didn't work for me
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Killbill Tech: any other suggestion ?
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Does anyone know how i would catch the roomchars, and store them in a variable, then use that variable to attack them all. I am looking for the equivalent of an area attack, without the spell
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: i believe that would fall under the category of 'bot'
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: No it wouldn't
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: too easy to abuse
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: it is the sam as c m killer, c m 2.killer, etc
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: dark, its gonna be slow as the only way to get the mob keyword is to scan/con
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: but with less keystrokes
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: tt means u scan/consider every room u move int
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: ok how would i get it to capture out of con, then to attack
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: i can just alias each movement to consider, that wouldn't be an issue
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: trigger on every change in room name, to consider all, then store the mobs u consider as a string list in a variable
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: then loop the kill command on all the members of the string list
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: but tt would be much slower than just typing kill urself
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: the only faster way is to build a database of all mob names against mob keywords, which would take u years
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monsieur Dorleac Tech: anyone have any experience with playstatioins ISOs and emulators?
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monsieur Dorleac Tech: playstation*
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: lol i do but i dont think piracy is allowed on public channels
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: aint priacy if you own em
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monsieur Dorleac Tech: it's not piracy if you have a playstation and the game :P
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: its not piracy if you dont call it piracy
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: id say a good 99% of the time people ask about iso and "backups" its really about piracy
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: still wondering myself why its termed piracy
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i doubt that high
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: not just on aard, but on the net in general
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: i own most games i play... doesnt mean i care to sit and deal with some retarded drm
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nodnod
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: hello mass effect lol
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i nocd crack EVERY game i own
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: i can only install my game i legaly own 3 times? how about go jump off cliff lol
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: ditto, but most of the time people are looking for help with pirated games nad whatnot but jsut refering to thier pirated games as backups
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: This is why I play free games :)
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: lol
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: this game has been far from "free" over the years :P
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: its not... not for lasher anyway LOL
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: For me it has, I am free to play, free to do what I want, free to donate, free to leave.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: See Also:   10 years of discussion on MUD forums about the difference between "free" and "free to play".
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monsieur Dorleac Tech: i have the games that i downloaded the ISOs for, but stuff like Legend of Dragoon is  so hard to find I'd rather not travel with it
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: So I choose to play, choose to do what I want, choose to donate when I can, and choose not to leave :)
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: 9 dragons is free to play too... gl trying to enjoy it if you dont pay
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: on wide screen monitor ad bar takes exacly 50% of the screen
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I don't understand all these allusions to games other than Aardwolf. Are there such things?
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ways around it
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mad Hermit Starky Tech: it's like all those korean free to play mmos
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mad Hermit Starky Tech: that are for profit so in order to play you have to pay to have anything good
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien hands out WoA CDs.
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: meh you can fairly easly block ads themselfs but if you remove bar you risk getting ban
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: naa
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: meh the us distributer of 9d sucks so bad 90% of people who play it can agree they dont deserve jack -_-
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: on side note who cares
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: i want episode 3 GRRR
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Its all about Urbandead
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: urbanwhatnotnow?
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: lowtech zombie game
T1/r5/2009-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: anyone used pny quadro fx5800? on sli 2-4?
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycynder Tech: anyone use lua in cmud?
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: a wee bit
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: i stopped using lua when i realized i had to write a bunch of my own functions, i didnt feel like doing htat
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycynder Tech: I just need to access a  var etc
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycynder Tech: %1
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycynder Tech: etc
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycynder Tech: just messing w/ it myself atm
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycynder Tech: tried zs.param(1)
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycynder Tech: got it
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: sweet now i can just play along and pretend i knew how to do it
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycynder Tech: thx :)
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: lol
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snyder Tech: how can i put a pause in a trigger in mushclient?
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prettypink Twig Tech: any Android/S60/iPhone app devs around? :)
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: anyone know if: tt++ or tf is running on a linux box on the local network, can zmud be used to connect thru it? or just login and then run tt++ or tf?
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: since zmud can be just a telnet client
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i can log into the linux machine via zmud, but entering tt++ after connected appears to hang the connection
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skinner Tech: anyone happen to be handy with flash arrays?
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skinner Tech: i'm supposed to handle simple .txt file with flash
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: sweet... got zmud to connect to linux and am now using both tintin and zmud on the same connection :P
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: wonder if zmud --> tinyfugue --> aard would be more useful
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: anyone using tt++ ?
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: wild... zmud --> telnet to local "tv"(shell, run tt++) --> tt++ #session tf localhost 23(shell run tf) --> tinyfugue to aard
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i can script in all 3 same session... heh
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: uhm, what client do you use.... TinZFugue
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: zinzin++
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: rofl
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: TinyZinZin++
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: cant believe it aint laggy
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: and all 3 have MCCP... that's gotta be overkill
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: wonder if i get +6 qp bonus :P
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: You have compression (mccp v86) on. Bytes In :    160838 Bytes Out:     14625 Saving   : 90.91%.
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: 91.2 here :)
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: assuming that's reporting tinyfugue's... it's the one connected to aard
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: the compression will be same no matter which one is using mccp, mud compresses the data you only uncompress for yourself
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ahh
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: yea, guess input aint to strenuous :P
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: input isnt compressed because its usually very short and also because if you set high compression level it will take too much cpu for the mud to uncompress it
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: needa turn command echo off in two of these... looks wierd seeing 3 of em
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: hrm... tt++ ... [COMMAND ECHO ] [      ON] Your commands are echoed in split mode
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: but i aint in split mode
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: #CONFIG {COMMAND ECHO} HAS BEEN SET TO {OFF}.... but nope
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: Cartman is your friend when it comes to TT++
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that freaked zmud out ~#SPLIT
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: #config {DEBUG TELNET} {ON|OFF} Show telnet negotations, default off.  <-- is that those new codes aard is using for mush?
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: yeah, tried to connect to a screen ses with zmud... yay
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: yeah, some of them... that is like to see it raw
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: turn on in tt++, gag/use in zmud.. nice
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: this is nuts suddenly having 2 whole new systems to use while keeping the old
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: mythtv doesnt ever strain that linux box... so plenty of free power over there
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ohhh... Lua shell in tt++
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: of-course :)
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: and perl and php and...
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: and direct MySQL access... and i get to keep the zmud mapper :)
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Verozus Tech: can someone help me with my maps when i move their isent a small map that comes when i move beside all of the chatting
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Verozus Tech: the automap is on
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i really should install sp3 sometime
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I hear it's extremely buggy.
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's not
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Dunno, it caused random crashes for one or two of my friends.
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: wouldn't have been sp3
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: haven't really noticed much difference between sp2 and sp3, but i have it installed and it's working just fine
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I see. Good then :)
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: sp3 has been out for ages, too. most bugs are probably fixed by now
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Verozus Tech: could i have some help, my map seems pretty screwed up when i move theirs no map that shows where i am in the area, like beside all of the chatting
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Verozus Tech: anyone no whats wrong ?
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you're using mushclient?
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Verozus Tech: yes
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: do you have the tags on?
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Verozus Tech: ? no clue if i do or not
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Verozus Tech: liek the automap ? yes
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Verozus Tech: like
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Verozus Tech: its like at the top theirs number 1-10 and well the map is in number 2 and the rest of the game in number 1 and i dont see it on number 1
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hmm. i'm out of ideas if you have map tags on. don't know the mushclient too well
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Verozus Tech: has anyone  every have problems with the muchclient map when u move theirs no map that tells u where u are in the area ?
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Verozus Tech: ever
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murn Tech: type map. what do you get?
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Verozus Tech: nothing
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murn Tech: type tags off
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murn Tech: then map again
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Verozus Tech: oh ok
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Verozus Tech: ty
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murn Tech: This is just a temporary fix, there's something wrong with your mush
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Verozus Tech: i jsut reinstalled it
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murn Tech: uninstall and reinstall
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Verozus Tech: jsut did 5 min ago
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: OK, think I am getting somewhere with my comp.
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: are you? second base?
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: Maybe third even :)
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: euw
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: After the weekend I had with it, I'd settle for a single.
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: was it good for you ?
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: On occasion :)
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: My windows update was failing all updates and so were my antivirus stuff.  So I'm downloading the updates on my computer at work and putting them on with my flash drive and they seem to be installing OK.  I ran Stinger and Microsoft Malicious Tool on it, but neither found anything, so I still don't know what's wrong with it :(
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone recommend a good free antivirus for windows 2000?
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no?
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: is there anyway at all people know of to regenerate elderly li-ion batteries safely?
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: assuming that the elderly Li-ion batteries were originally rechargeable when young -- was there a warning label - do not recharge when old
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: when Lithium rechargeables first came out a few years ago on the slightly more expensive cheapo powertools, the battery packs were small, instead of big like the NiCads -- suggests that there is a safety concern with big Lithium rechargeable-batteries
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they were -supposed- to mark the end of battery memory
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: thats utter garbage, they dwindle and die just the same, so hence i have a 2004 laptop here with two completely dead li-ion batteries
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: perhaps buy new batteries -- if they are dead and won't recharge, they are dead -- or the recharger is faulty
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nogs, managed to find one for 24 quid, still bloody expensive for a 5yr old lappie tho
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: 24 dollah, -- where are those expensive prices, Australia ?
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 24 quid, british pounds sterling, about $35 US
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: somebody saw you coming when they sold you that laptop
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: unless those batteries weigh at least a pound, 24 quid is an atrocious ripoff
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: all laptop batteries are expensive
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: so laptops use expensive batteries, while desktops use cheap batteries -- laptop manufacturers are despicable
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: desktops don't -use- batteries
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: ah, those batteries - yeah, they are likely expensice  
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: careful, neuron firing is dangerous
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: anyone know of a store that sells nichrome wire?
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what's nichrome wire?
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: or heating elements, of the hot variety:).
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: desktops do use a tiny (cmos) battery 
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: aren't all heating elements of the hot variety?
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: was joke.
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyway, any online electronics specialist, i'd guess radio shack in the US
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: lol. tried it.
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: maplins
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: some heating elements remain cold while the special pot gets hot
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: rapid
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: looks like mail order only. I'd like to avoid mail order.
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: It'd be nice just to go get it. I want to experiment with nichrome wire, clay, and batteries.
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: if you want something local, you'll probably want to look in your phonebook
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: have you tried local hardware stores? lowes, home depot, ace, etc
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: hmmm, that might work. tried lows.
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bed bath and beyond!
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: don't know what ace is. why bed bath and beyond, or was that a joke?
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: yes, the beyond section at bb&b might have what you're looking for
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: was a joke
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: ah well, mail order, then. I want to duplicate the meccano steam engine thing.
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: is Camlorn going to be doing this research in the dark, using infrared skin detectors
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: what? infrared what?
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: merely a meccano steam engine.
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: steam leaks are hot
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: so?
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: this thing is a tabletop model.
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: steam leaks are visible
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: it's not a full-sized steam engine, just something I'd like to try.
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: you can carry it around, I think, actually. rather small.
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rykor Tech: peanut butter and jelly is yummy...
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: It's peanut butter jelly time!
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: do pirrhana fish prefer humans or peanut butter and jelly sandwiches
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: are they carrying baseball bats?
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: I'm looking to hook my electric guitar up to my laptop for recording/sound processing. Any idea how I can go about doing that?
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: does the electric guitar already use a pre-amp or go immediately into a cheapo speaker
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: ... I wish I had a clue.
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: It plugs directly into a guitar amp...? :P
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Or a pedal and such.
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you ought to use some form of effects box first
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Effects box like, an effects pedal?
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nogs
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if you go straight into your lappie/mixing desk, you'll get a very bland accoustic sound 
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Already have one of those. How do I get the output of that into my computer?
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: take the output of the effects box headphone port to your mic/line in
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Hmm... I need to see if I have a headphone port on the pedal, lol
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: And the answer to that is no. The output on the pedal is the cord for the amp.
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well you can use that, but start with the output level quite low
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: How would I get an "amp cord" (wtf is the technical name for those) into the computer? Is there a usb-to-"amp cord"? Or an "amp cord"-to-mic cord?
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: amp cord to mic, just need a jack reducer
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Purchasable at BestBuy/RadioShack? lol
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nogs
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: but if you bump the output level knob ... (does the laptop lineinput fry)
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nah, it'll just distort
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Nod, that seems about right. Alright, off to whatever electronics store is closest. Thanks TN and X. :P
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL looks around afraid for his life.
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rolst Tech: does anyone know how hard it is to set up a spell up trigger on Cmud
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: far simpler on Aardwolf than on some other muds
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snyder Tech: anyone know how i can set a variable from the command line in mushclient?
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: @variablename
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: First you need to set a script prefix, did you do that?
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snyder Tech: nope
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snyder Tech: how do i do that?
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: its in the script section of options....might be easier for you to set a variable manually
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snyder Tech: ok, thanks
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: but if you set your script prefix to something like / then use that before any script command 
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snyder Tech: can i set up an alias to set a variable?
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: yeah, but you would need the script in the alias to set up the variable
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snyder Tech: i see
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snyder Tech: i have only just started using mushclient, so am not going to try anything that involved at the moment.
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snyder Tech: one last question...any way to put a pause in a trigger?  just trying to get autohunt to work automatically...
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: the script language is set to lua as default, its not too hard to learn the code to set up a variable, examples are given in the MUSH files
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: don't really know, might be some way to do it codewise
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rolst Tech: i created a spellup trigger on Cmud but it will only do 5 and i have 7 listed any idea why
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: That doesn't say a whole lot...
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rolst Tech: nm i figured it out
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh, that's neat seeing wget output from inside zmud... 100%[==============================================================>] 429,029     83.7K/s   in 5.0s    
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: My current runto alias, unequips my secondary weapon, gets/wears portal, enters, re-equips secondary, and runs to area, how would i make it so that it forgoes the first several steps and just runs to area if i am already at recall(clan recall)? for MUSH
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i can't think of an easy way to do that even in my client (cmud)...
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if not at recall, do this part, endif, do rest (paraphrased)
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: should work in any reasonable client, mush & z/cmud included
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: need a trig that sets a ver when you get to recall, then an if that checks the var in runto
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rolst Tech: anyone with cmud help me out with spellup trigger 
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or can look first to trig on roomtags, but by that point, might as well just have still used the portal
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: You could 1) turn on tags for room names 2) trigger on every room name: if the name === Grand City of Aylor then set a flag to true, else set the flag to false, 3) check for that flag in your runto alias
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: Rolst, have you tried using Davos' spellup script?  finger davos and go to this website.
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rolst Tech: ok thanks alot i havent been there
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: And in your trigger for the room names/tags, you can splice out the tag part
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I can give you a base trigger for splicing out the room tags while preserving whatever color the room name happens to be, if you want.
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: that sound more complicated thn my intelligence level allows for...i just want to kow how to do the 'endif' thing...thats seems simpler
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: thanks you anyways
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I've heard you say that before... don't be afraid to learn :)
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: learn...or epically fail so bad i do ireperable damage....
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: but spelled right...
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nothing so bad it can't be fixed by a reinstall :-)
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: actually, i can just deal with the use portal, and start over from recall...it isnt that bad now that i do it a few times
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: how do you turn on tags for room names?
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: tags rname on
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tags roomnames on
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: With roomnames spelled out
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: woops
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: i meant that, but shorthanded it without thinking
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Playing with CMud yet again now that the mapper has been redone, and I'm finally in a spot where all my scripts work, including the mapper. I've tried probably 6 or 8 times to switch over since it first released, and this is a first. Now I just have weird UI issues, like CMud's child windows being Always On Top with no option I can find to disable that behavior, and inability to use the package library.
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: you have to get a forum account to use the package library... it's free and only takes a minute or two
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I have one, but it's never asked me to enter that info.
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I think that's a symptom of the Always On Top thing. When I click to install a package the Library window loses focus, but I can't see what the focus is going to. Maybe it's opening a forum login request, but it's going behind the library window.
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Yeah, doing some reading and apparently that's a delphi issue.
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Which once again makes me wonder why anyone would use Delphi for real software, but hey, it's beta. Not gonna whine. ;)
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wait, what's beta, cmud or delphi?
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Cmud.
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, versions 1, 2 and 3 are all beta?
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when does it leave beta?
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: When gmail does? ;)
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You snicker softly.
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I'm not sure all versions are beta, but the newest version 3.06 is beta.
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Which is the one I'm using, because he finally rewrote the mapper.
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: ooOooo
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: That bug apparently stretches across all versions though.
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: can you import older versions of the old maps still tho ?
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Do you mean can you import your Zmud maps? Yeah, otherwise no one would bother.
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Ah, only registered users can use the package library.
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, you're still on the trial?
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Yeah, installed it to check it out and see if my scripts will work, which they FINALLY did with very little tinkering.
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, well at least now you know why the library wasn't working
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Yeah, I had to resize the Library window and move it around, and then I was able to see the popup window that was getting covered up.
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: The official bug report says that XP can't handle multiple "Always On Top" windows, but that there may be a workaround in Delphi 2007, and he'll see when he updates CMud to that.
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Ok im MUSH i have it capture my qps earned and gold, how do i 1) get it to catch my lucky gains, and 2) how do i make it show time taken
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Like how long the quest took
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: odd....cmud just stopped rendering the brighter colors on me
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: uhhhh....all my colors seem to have changed.  is it just me?
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: someone using zmud tell me if "#menu {edit|select all}"  without the quotation marks works
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: though...you'll have to macro it to really test, I suppose
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Worked here.
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: k
T1/r5/2009-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Though really, I think there's an option for it under preferences. I forget.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Captain Flygo goes, "Hmmmm."
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain Flygo Tech: anyone else get kicked off because of a "character has reconnected from a different ip" message?
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: nope
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Megawatt Tech: No, strange
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: id change my password if i were you
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: just to be safe
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tyebald is agreeing with that Fae Wino Joelz person again...
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Captain Flygo rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain Flygo Tech: i'll change my password
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witblitz Tech: anybody out there that can help me with mushclient?
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snyder Tech: i can try...but not that familiar with it myself...
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witblitz Tech: i want i alias or script that i can spell others up
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witblitz Tech: i believe there is on zmud but i dont use zmud
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snyder Tech: yeah....there are scripts you can download that apparently do that....
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snyder Tech: but you can set up an alias to do whatever you want, but you have to create it manually.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: check mushclined forum in it's homepage. there is lots of scripts 
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witblitz Tech: i know of some but they dont work.... tried a few allready
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: shift+ctrl+9, alt+a, start typing
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: maybe you want to check why they aint working?
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witblitz Tech: to stupid for that i have to admit
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witblitz Tech: thanx anyways. will have a look on the site some more
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: Hey guys, I got a problem with Zmud. At random times I get disconnected from aardwolf, And It takes forever to get back on
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: you sure thats a Zmud problem?
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Do these 'random' times have anything to do with reading help files?
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: No, It just happened again now
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: So what were you doing at the time?
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: that's your idea of forever?
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: I enter something, like 'hunt whatever' and it seems like I get horrible lag
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: Then it disconnects
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: i get that too sometimes
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: It doesn't connect again, And usually i have to change the port number to connect again
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: I always switch from 4000 and 4010
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: It usually happens when I enter multiple commands, while I'm getting lag from using a skill from this game
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: sounds like a connection problem, not an aardwolf problem
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: I guess, but nothings up with my connection
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: It isn't wireless so it can't be a bad signal
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: that's not strictly true - you keep disconnecting
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: does it happen if you turn your triggers and aliases off?
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: Nope
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: I usually don't turn triggers or aliases off
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so your symptoms disappear with aliases and triggers turned off
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: No, I never turn them off
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: I could try?
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: should try
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: Alright, I just turned them off. I'll say if something comes up
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: Well, usually the hunt skill gives me lag
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rtoo Tech: any Zmud mapper care to tell me how to get the map to recognize my entering a garbage can? It doesn't update when I recall.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: Anyone here knowledgable with routers?
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimamatl Tech: i almost took my middle finger off with one
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: ask your question, I'm sure someone might be able to help you
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: Long question, short answer.  I have a Netgear router running my home laptop.  I was having trouble with files I was downloading this past weekend.  Everything was corrupt when I tried to install.  I checked my DSL direct connection and that was fine.  I then redid the NEtgear and the direct connection with my desktop worked.  I still can connect to the internet with my laptop, but everything I download is corrupted.  Is my router screwed?
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: your downloads on your desktop are fine though?
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: Yes.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: probably your laptop
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: Could just the wireless emitter from the Netgear be screwed up?
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Direct connect your laptop and see what happens.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: eh, have you tried connecting your laptop to your router wired?
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I'm planning on doing that tonite.  Got too late to try that last night :)
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I just didn't know if the direct connection from a router could still be working and the wireless part be corrupted...
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: its possible, I don't think likely
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: Both laptops I have were having this same problem....
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: you know they both don't have viruses?
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I've run hijack this and stinger on it and both programs found nothing.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: Also the microsoft malicious software.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: are you sure? are you proficient in finding the names of rogue programs?
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I will admit that I am no expert....
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: thats what sucks for hijackthis
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: well, try a wired connection tonight
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I will.  I'm just an impatient little monkey.. :)
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: Oh, I did also run the most updated version of spybot as well and found nothing.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: still fighting that culpable?
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: is it completely out of the question to format and start over?
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: also try booting into safe mode + networking and see if your downloads still get corrupted
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I think so.  Is there any way to reset my wireless on my laptop?
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: reset the wirless?  sure, you could do various things... like turning off the wireless card and turning it back on
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: you could delete the profile your security settings are stored in and recreate it
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: reply Okies.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: you could do this start->run->cmd.... ipconfig /release then ipconfig /renew
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: that will refresh your DHCP address, if you use that
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I'll try that tonite as well.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: if you've manually assigned an IP address to your laptop, don't bother with that last part... it's not applicabable
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: heh.. applicable
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I think the first thing I will do is landline it to the router and see if it updates.  If it does, it must be something with the wireless?
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: yeah, i suppose that's possible that something is wrong with your wireless signal.. i can't imagine what exactly, but sure
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: do you have a second computer you could test with?
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: or a willing friend to help?
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I just can't see two different laptops coming down with the exact same problem on the exact same day...
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: well, when i worked on computers for a living, there was this thing called the "zotob" that took down my entire building in a matter of 15 minutes... i'll believe about anything
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Do the laptops have the problem regardless of where you use them?
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endrspkr Tech: Just out of curiousity, has anyone used the Logitech G9 mouse yet?  I just got one and started using it and was wondering what other people thought of it.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: As in, have you tried the laptop at the library or somewhere with free wifi?
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: Well, the desktop was routed through the netgear this weekend and was having the same problems as the laptops, so I connected the desktop to the DSL modem directly and it worked last nite.  Then I reconfigured the Netgear, and the desktop worked with downloads through that last night.  I also had to update the netgear, but the laptop still doesn't work for downloads.  Pissed me off something fierce, and no Rathik haven't been able to find a new place to try wireless.  Hopin the tech guy at work comes to our building today to let me try the network :)
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if not the library, got any panera bread locations nearby?
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kojax Tech: anyone know of any good linux MUD programs?
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tinyfugue is the best MUD client on all OSes :-)
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: tinyfugue probably works
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: MUSHclient in Wine? :)
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: I like Kmuddy in linux
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kojax Tech: i need a text based
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: My understanding is the the ZMud mapper now works in WINE also.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kojax Tech: i'm at 
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Then yoiu'll want Tinyfugue probably
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kojax Tech: i'm in a teconsole
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tf rules for command-line client
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kojax Tech: thanks guys
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: kojax - using hyperterminal?
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: mushclient under Ubantu/wine did not run out of the box 
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i played my first couple years here in hyperterminal :P
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: MUSHclient or Aardclient?
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kojax Tech: i'm sshing in via a linux command
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: mushclient 433 build
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: you shouldn't need to ssh into aardwolf, imo
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kojax Tech: i'm not sshii
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kojax Tech: i'm not ssh to aard
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: you just said you were sshing in via a linux command... i took that to mean that you were connected to aardwolf via ssh (via a linux command)
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: did i get lost somewhere?
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: i'm ssh... hunting wabbits
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: scars, you ssh into your computer that runs your client...tha's how I'm always on aard
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kojax Tech: i'm not ssh into arrd i'm telneting into aard via ssh connectiong  into linux
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: ah
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: my fault
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sit at computer A, ssh to computer B, computer B connects to Aard
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: that's the way I do it
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my alpha at home is where my tinyfugue runs, I use 'screen' to keep the same session no matter where I'm connecting from
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: can linux not be set up in VM?
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure it can
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how does that help?
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i'm trying to figure out why you ssh into your computer
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: from work or something?
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because you do what you can
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: other than quick screen flip at work
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because when my laptop is driving down the road, my bot is still running :P
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: your bot needs an upgrade if it requires that much input
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I haven't taught my laptop how to drive yet
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: input, as in works when my laptop is turned off
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if I were running NetBSD in a VM on my laptop, that wouldn't work so well
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i guess the whole purpose is lost on me
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i can't figure out why i'd want/need such a thing, but to each their own :P
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the purpose is that I can be at home, on Aard...I can drive across the country, still be on Aard, and still use "reply" since I never logged out...despite sitting at 10 different computers, all on Aard
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: right, and what i'm saying is that i'd rather just log off
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and without using bloated protocols, so even on dialup or in a crappy hotel, I have responsive access
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: some keys and such disapear at log off
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I do have a manor and my bot uses my manor to stop keys from going poof...but my pets would feel abandoned ;-)
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: well, i have a manor and a manor container
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: so i put the keys in the container when i log off
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: and if i forget to, then i go get the key again
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: (drool) manor
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, "home" puts the keys back for me
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: it's just a preference, and i'm not saying abelinc's way is bad or anything... i just couldn't figure out why it would be needed... but... coming full circle... it's just a preference
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: convenient to keep histories, get to see even more stuff in logs (everything that has come across my screen in the last 5 years is logged)
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and if I'm somewhere that i can't use my laptop/don't have it with me, but can access any other computer, I still have 100% of my scripts
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: 5 yrs worth of logs.. thats a lot of text :p
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, it'd be a bear without gzip
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Runtur Vanion grins evilly.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: is staying connected 24 hours not a form of botting
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: still ticks off spouse when I do a grep on large portions ;-)
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not at all, xyliz
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Not if you wear tinfoil on your head, it's not
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: lol
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: poor spouse ,)
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fully legal on Aard...hence things like "help spamming" mentioning that the best way to stay online and not idle out being to just send a carriage return
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 64MB RAM in the NetBSD box, lags out a bit when doing gzip-piped greps on gigs of files
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but too cheap to get a reasonably-new alpha, and too lazy to convert all my stuff to i386
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: heh at 64MB ram id cry :p
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blitzed BladeofLight Tech: thats like 386 stuff there... lol
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: at least it's 64 bit ;-)
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blitzed BladeofLight Tech: if u wanna call it that
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: nods that would be a good thing :p
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: i was imagining 32bit :p
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blitzed BladeofLight Tech: still better then 8 bit with 16 turbo... lol
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, not sure what you meant by 'if you wanna call it that'...64 bit processor is pretty well-defined, and it is :-)
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: This is slightly aggravating. After updating Windows 7, my entire Start Menu list disappeared. Annoyed, I start to add items back to the list only to see they're getting affixed with (2) (indicating that there is already an item there). So I open up the StartMenu folder and see all the items there, but not showing up on Start Menu itself. Any ideas? *sigh*
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: start a book: Windows 7 Horror Stories
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I'm still writing my book about you, Xyliz.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: look at the attribute flags of the items in the StartMenu Folder -- some may be system or Hidden
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: perhaps click upon the option to view hidden files
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Xyliz: That has nothing to do with my problem. :)
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snyder Tech: for some reason it is not logging you on as a different user by any chance....or trying to use the start menu for a different (ie admin) user ?
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the items are there in the Start Menu folder  but not visible in the Start Menu -- perhaps the windows registry is defective or was not updated
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Nah. Only one user (Admin). See, the items are there in the folder, but they don't show up on the Start Menu list. :P
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: And I can add new items with ease. Doesn't fault over that. However, if it's an existing item, it affixes the (2) to it (and I can view it in the StartMenu folder.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if Windows requires different users to uses different Start Menu names to other users or to the Admin start menu names, that is some defective Windows 7
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Xyliz: Each user has their own Start Menu.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: In ANY Windows OS.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snyder Tech: i had a problem with windows 7 after a crash...for some reason it restared and logged me in as a different user and i lost my desktop...took me a while to realise....
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: your problem is that you are using windows
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: except Window 7 is providing a new Start Menu 'feature' -- the (2) names
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Yeah, see, I've got my desktop. I've lost nothing but what's in Start Menu (and even what's under All Programs)
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Xyliz: No, it's because the items are there, and it's saving it to the folder StartMenu. Since it's a duplicate item, it's affixing the (2). Just like it has always done with copying a shortcut.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Kallendbor: No, my problem is not that I'm using Windows. :)
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snyder Tech: uninstall and reinstall windows 3.1
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus snickers with Snyder about their shared secret.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: File manager ftw!
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snyder Tech: sorry...let me amend that....reinstall windows 3.1 using by floppy disk
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus giggles.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I'd have to have a floppy drive for that. :P
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Win 3.11 was far past floppy disk usage
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: even Dos 2.0 was using hard drives
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Once again, Xyliz, you don't know what you're talking about and this conversation flew right over your head.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xyliz yet stores backup zipped copies of previously installed Win 3.11 on CD and HD -- sad that there are no Win 3.11 video drivers for modern video cards other than default vga 
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Weird. I got them all back.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: search vbemp for a vesa driver
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Anyone have links to Aard-specific CMud scripts?
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: davos.aardcharn.com and some in the Package library.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Yeah, no joy on the library until I register.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Heh. You already have an account at Zuggsoft. You just use that.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: You can't access the package library from a trial version of CMud.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: it's about time somebody developed an open source client that could read zmud map dbs :P
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Ah, that would be a bit of a problem, yeah.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycynder Tech: anyone here use vmware?
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Oh, this is going to piss me off again. Windows Media Player is STILL opening up and I can't even find the wmplayer.exe file to rename it so it stops! *grow*
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: I think somebody missed a l. :P
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Ugh. wmplayer is hidden, and even though I have Admin rights, I don't have full control over the damned program, which won't let me make it unhidden or even access it in any way...
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Lovely. A hidden file that 'Show hidden files' will not show, and an inability to change the permissions. Yay.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Charneus accidentally virus.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Nah. It's windows media player for Windows 7.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Obyron . o O ( What should he do? Is this dangerous? )
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: 0h 10
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Bah.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Sweet. I think I was able to delete the WMPlayer file. *inno*
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus waits to see what programs fail to work now. :D
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: don't remove windows media player!
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: just reassign all filetypes.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: there are things that call on it, i believe.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Camlorn: That wasn't my problem. :P
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I know there are. I was just sick and tired of WMP being invasive on me.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: um, invasive, how?
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: For whatever reason, it would open up every 30 seconds after I closed it. I think it had something to do with Songbird, but I'm not sure.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: sounds like a virus, if you ask me.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It's not.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Computer's virus free.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: vists sucks :p
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: That's why it's not Vista. :D
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus pats Runtur Vanion on his head.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: um, that's what I thought, till I found out how many times I could get the blue screen of death in a day.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: heh
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Camlorn: I /know/ for a fact my computer is virus free. :)
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: how?
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: i'd love to have your confidence, with confiker about.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Conficker's a joke. :P
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Conficker is a joke.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: actually, it's my theory come to pass.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Obyron nods at Alt. Helpa Charneus.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Obyron's lips move in slow motion as he says, "L-A-A-A-G"
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Runtur Vanion smirks at Camlorn's saying.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: o? I've had a theory for years. a theoretical way to crash all computers.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Install Windows ME.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: looks like confiker's program does what mine would have.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I'm using Windows 7. Love it. Windows 7 > Windows XP > Vista. :P
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: its easy to defend vs  self serving proxies :p
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: basically, I level, then explain it:).
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: That good, Charn?
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I signed up to beta test but for some reason I never got around to it.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: RC is coming out May 5th. I'm excited.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods at Obyron.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Camlorn: It's not hard to remain virus-free and be confident about it.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: is Windows 7 a resources hog like Vista
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: Just always use protection.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Depends, Xyliz. If you use Aero, then that's an additional 41MB of RAM.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Many things that may be a resource hog (SearchIndexer) can be disabled, though.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: That's deceptive. I didn't have a problem with Vista over resource use, because I understand how prefetching works. My problems with it were in other areas.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods at Obyron.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Like the overhaul of the sound architecture that made trying to do recording on Vista a joke.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pro tools nightmare
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Honestly, if I disabled everything I didn't need, I'd only be using about 25-35% of my RAM.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I couldn't even do basic recording, because Vista decided I didn't need access to things like enabling monitoring for a mic.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: As it stands, I'm using about 75% of my RAM. Then again, I only have 1GB.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: search indexing saves quite a bit of time when looking for things, though
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Who would want to hear what they're recording as they record it!?!?
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Abelinc: I normally use cmd for searching for files. ;)
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus snickers with Obyron about their shared secret.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which is slower than molasses, and can't tell you half the stuff
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I use a USB microphone. If I'm listening to it, it seems to be a half step off from when I actually speak it. Sad. :(
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oby, that's cuz, of course, the only reason to monitor that is to record streams illegally! :P
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Nod.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Abelinc: True as that may be, I rarely have to search for things, though.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, wish I had a memory that told me the name and location of a file I hadn't touched in a year
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus chuckles politely.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Nah. I keep everything located in folders associated with the type, most times, by program.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus shrugs helplessly.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Not much that I need to find, anyway.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I want software that can remind me of the name of that one song that goes "dunnnnn duh duh dunnn dah dah dubbadadubbada" when I can't remember the name or the artist.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You snicker softly.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: that's easy, obyron.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: There was a website that supposedly could guess songs by the rhythm of the space bar being pressed.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: it's Unknown Track - Unknown Artist!
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Never really tried it, though.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Sucks for death metal. Not sure I'm fast enough to do blast beats on my space bar.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I do like the cell phone service that tells you the name of the song when you have it listen to what's playing
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: sounds like smoke on the water by deep purple
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus snickers with Obyron about their shared secret.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: That's becaues you suck Obyron
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oby, I thought you were a GH master
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: MusicID?
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I am, but come on!
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: www.bored.com/songtapper is something similar to what Charneus was talking about.  Might give it a shot :P
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: huh.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Once again I've hit a wall with CMud.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: downgrade to tintin++
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I'm starting to think the project's official motto is "Maybe Next Year..." because I've said that every year since it came out.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: It's frustrating to be so excited about the capabilities of a program, but never get to enjoy them because the developer apparently can't code his way out of a paper bag. :P
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: What wall did you hit?
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I knew it was a bad sign when I found out he was using Pascal.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: lol pascal
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: The mapper in the beta is insane, and yes I know it's a beta.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: It seems to be loading my map in the untitled session instead of linking it to my character session, which means I can't change it or save changes to it.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I have no issues with it, really. Hmmm.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Yeah, I get that a lot.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Odd.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Every attempt to link it to my character session has failed, usually with a crash. I deleted the map module from my session in the package editor and now when it loads I get my session and the untitled session map window. Attempting to use the File->Open menu on that mapper window results in a crash when opening the map file.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: In the package editor you can click "New" but there is no option to add a new map module. However, under the edit menu (as in File, Edit, etc.) there is a "New" option, one of the suboptions for which is Map Module. However using that just adds a new vanilla module instead of a map module.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: The root of the whole thing would seem to be a problem in converting a map file, or so it seems.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Have you tried just creating a new character session?
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Then opening the map then?
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Not yet, but I'm probably going to try that when I calm down. ;)
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I agree with you that it seems to be a problem with converting it.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I know I had similar probems before, but wrote it off as my own fault.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I hate my keyboard, by the way.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: It makes me wonder if I'm just weird somehow or if he doesn't test these things before he releases them as betas.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I think, after it had converted it and saved it as whatever, I had to start a new character session, then open that new converted file.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: You WONDER if you're weird somehow?
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Obyron grins evilly at Not an Imm Erikson.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: It's kind of irritating for a 3.x version of software to feel like an early beta.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Well, it /is/ a complete mapper rewrite, so in a way, it is an early beta.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I just feel sorry for the people who've been paying for it for, what, 3 years?
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: That's why it's having to convert. It's no longer the standard mdb database that came with zMUD or earlier versions of CMUD.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It's been about 3 years, yeah.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: But there hasn't been a need to pay for it more than once yet.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Well that's good. ;) What is it, every 3 years or something?
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Or something like 3 years, then every year... Can't remember.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It's supposed to be every 2 years, or after every major public release.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: However, since 3.x is still Beta, there's no need to pay for the upgrade.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Obyron nods.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: To be honest, CMUD has come a long way from the original release.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: The original release shouldn't have even been released.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I agree. Not as a public version, anyway.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I feel like I'm swept up in the dream, but starting to see through the illusion or something. I like the idea of the software, and I want it to work so badly, but every time I try to use it there's always another problem. The first version of Zmud that was really worth a crap was 4.62, so that makes me scared for CMUD's prspects.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: troll This must be how Linux users feel. /troll
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: linux is about as old as zmud
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I think that's partly the reason why he's taking so long making this a public version, though. He wants to make sure that it's going to have as few problems as possible.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: what how are you comparing linux to zmud?
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Oh, the other little thing that annoyed me. There's a nag screen in the beta, which means that even though it's a beta, I still have to wait 5 seconds to reload every time it crashes.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: One thing that does get irritating is sometimes, once a bug is fixed, it produces another bug. For instance, using the syntax #2 {#SAY Blah} would work nicely. However, with 3.06, it decides it doesn't want to work anymore. *sigh*
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: cmud 3.06?
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Yep.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Overall, I love the program, especially since now there are floating buttons. Don't have to tie them down to a toolbar anymore. Also, the ability to give a key to a certain folder that will only activate in certain zones/rooms.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: bot!
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus smirks.
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: dude, i'm just happy cmud lets me write speedwalk aliases :S
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so did zmud :P
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Heh. I wrote my own runto using the mapper. :P
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i never bothered with the mapper... it's above my level of comprehention
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: But I have zone scripts that I hated having to enable by hand each time I entered a zone. Now it does it automatically. Lovely. :)
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}It's Big Rampagne Tech: anyone remember how to make it so when you copyt and p[aste text from zmud it brings the colros with it?
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: rawcolors rampagne
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no einstein
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's a zmud setting
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}It's Big Rampagne Tech: yea i am trying to find that setting
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that defines the color codes, so zmud can do colored pasting
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: oo
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and it'll automatically handle inserting the color codes to the MUD
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}It's Big Rampagne Tech: i remember
T1/r5/2009-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}It's Big Rampagne Tech: in color syntax
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: OMG! MUSHclient 4.32 dosent have anymore of the worlds anymore! please help
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you should be using 4.40 anyway. suck it up.
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: really?
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: also, there's a plugin that auto generates worlds when you need them. look in the plugin forum for it
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: cuz 4.32 does me wrong
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: and 4.33
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: get 4.40 from announcements forum
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: ok brb
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monsieur Dorleac Tech: i had juchas do some eq for me at the last minute and rafa has it
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monsieur Dorleac Tech: miss
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: OMG MUSH 4.40 still only has the one window!
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: I cant even get the map! please help!
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I already told you. there's a plugin that generates worlds if you need them
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: besides. you should use the miniwindow plugins anyway
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: those don't require worlds
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: of course, I think
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: my plugin menu is emp[ty
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: how many buttons are conveniently possible with mushclient -- at least 7*30 ?
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: download them from mushclient.com
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: define "buttons"
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: those buttons that are mouse clicked to do something
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: im just gonna have to work on this later
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: each button is labeled (perhaps with a variable) and when mouse-clicked does a string of commands or aliases -- like in zmud
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't use buttons that much in zmud
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: macros, maybe...
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I have two areas in my Zmud Mapper that are reporting the same zonenum. Shouldn't that be impossible? 1 returns 1 (correct), but so does 1, yet Gilda and the Dragon correctly returns Gilda and the Dragon.
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Bah! ;)
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I have two areas in my Zmud Mapper that are reporting the same zonenum. Shouldn't that be impossible? %zonenum(Faerie Tales II) returns 1 (correct), but so does %zonenum(Gilda and the Dragon), yet %zonename(76) correctly returns Gilda and the Dragon.
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: But hey, that's proof!
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ok, i need a small software miracle please
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: What's the matter, Tigernuts?
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: windows vista
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i need a tool that'll report to me the license key used in a windows installation, but...
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it needs to be cd bootable
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and work on 2003 sbs
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Woah. Is there such a tool available?
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well there's one you can use from within windows
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I see.
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so i don't see why there couldn't be
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: OK.
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: I need that tool also
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: is there a plugin that will do that for BartPE?
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: apparently, but they want money. I don't like that game
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: does the software marely report the registration number instead of also verify the registration number
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: erd commander?
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Air-Borne Anadorr Tech: u can find a key in registry. HKLMSOFTWAREMicrosoftWindowsCurrentVersionProductId
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: thankyou, andorr, that doesn't work in anything past Windows ME, and doesn't work cos windows currently isn't bootable
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tiger, is the system unbootable?
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yep
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Air-Borne Anadorr Tech: use registry file ?
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: product key is encrypted, andadorr
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's encrypted, but it's that very reg key that all of the keyfinders use...
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: move it to another (virtual) machine & run the keyfinder
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: eh?
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if it won't boot in this system, it won't boot in any other
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: installation is damaged
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: didn't say to move everything over...just move the registry key
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it were a damaged product key registry entry that was making the system unbootable, then any recovery tool wouldn't be helpful, CD bootable or not
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: that should save me about 15 hours doinking around
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that key isn't damaged, but i also don't have any other sbs keys i can use in a vm
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and would take donkies hours to set up anyway
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: install some form of 2003 into a VM, use something like barts to grab the registry file, move that file to the VM, run the freeware registry reporters
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: does Win98se use  HKey_Local_Machine->Software->Microsoft->Windows->CurrentVersion->ProductId 
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: win98 isn't encrypted,m that one's trivial
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: is there a plugin that will do that for BartPE? http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?showtopic=22565&hl=windows+key
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: or use regedit from the dos prompt
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: sorry, that is a link to a plugin that works within BartPE that finds software keys
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: seems to be absent in this copy of Win98se -- did something (virus/trojan?) erase that entry
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ozzy,  for tigernuts, regedit won't help since (1) not bootable system, and (2) key is encrypted
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: oh, heard 98SE
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, that was xyliz
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Win98se is that old OS that predated Win ME -- works okay for mudding
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, win98SE is much better than winME
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bast's suggestion with a bartcd might be the answer
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: cept for ME's defrag
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, can't hurt to try :-)
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rykor Tech: bartPE rocks ;)
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh ozzy...the system sucks and is incompatible with most of your hardware...but man does it have a nice defrag!
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we still use the original bart's network boot disk for imaging, throw it on USB drives & it boots pretty much everything in seconds
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'd like it to be legal to brain people with a spiked club who lose their installation media/codes
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm surprised you didn't keep a record of it
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if Microsoft were not crook, the registration be burned on the (almost) vanilla OS installation CD -- the technology to do this is likely available especially at the prices charged for those OS
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: ...
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: eh?
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the key IS on the CD case
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i hope you're not trying to blame Microsoft for people being retards
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: microsoft doesn't make the CDs, and making each CD a 1-off instead of bulk duplication isn't reasonable for something with the distribution size for MS products
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: each grossly overpriced OS CD from microsoft is supposed to be already imprinted with a valid registration code - but they are cheap crook
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: xyliz, they do have the valid registration code with them...in multiple places
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if the technology to to imprint a different number of the cardboard jacket is there, then the technology to imprint each CD is there
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it's not
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Abelinc is footdragging
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Honestly, Abelinc worked in the graphics/printing industry for years
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: paper printing has many options which CD printing does not
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and rectangular labels can safely be put onto cardboard, they cannot safely be put on CDs
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the current method is fine
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i like having the license seperate from the cd, means if the cd gets damaged, you're not completely screwed
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: every CD has the key with it...whethehrh on it or not doesn't change anything
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the technology ios likely to cost a few million dollars at most, but that technology cost in miniscule compared to billions of dollars from the sale of that software
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you're suggesting something that would be worse than what happens now, xyliz
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just because you throw out incorrect dollar values doesn't give you an actual point
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: we don't -want- the license on the cd, so why should they invest dollars doing it?
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: an indellible pen is about 2 bucks
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Myopic.
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: some dummy customers may prefer a registration code on the CD -- big firms may purchase use a more generic registration code that permits multiple-site-licences
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: big firms already do that...we don't get CD/DVDs at all from microsoft, we just go to the website & download them
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: k, abe, know of a commandline command for xp to uncompress all files that windows has compressed cos they're old?
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: i also hear that Microsoft does not want to invest in removing bugs before distributing the OS commercially
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: consumers get the product key on a sticker on the front of their computer tower, or the bottom of their laptop
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they often don't even get CDs either (BTW, the CDs come from the computer manufacturer, NOT from microsoft)
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i think you'll find they spend a considerable amount of effort testing before it's released
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: they do their best, but unfortunately they suck
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nogs, bad product conception
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: should've done something majorly different with vista
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: dumping the legacy crap would be best
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, no idea tiger...not command line, but does just unchecking the compress drive auto-uncompress, or just stop compressing from then on?
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but it's never going to happen
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: some files are compressed, some are not - the tick box is not ticked, if i tick it, it'll spend the next 3 weeks compressing everything
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: customers not getting an OS CD is a blatant policy of seeking to rip the customers off -- they are hoping te customer is a dummy and is required to purchase another copy of the OS -- some may say that is an intent to defraud the consumer
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: found solution :-)
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: xyliz, microsoft has nothing to do with that decision, and the manufacturer doesn't get money if a customer buys a retail CD...there's gotta actually be motive
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's amazing how much thought you put into some of these conspiracy theories while still not actually thinking
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: your cpu isn't released yet, your hdd is being lovingly wiped by Maxtor
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: but then i am likely jaded because i purchased two licenses to Win 98se and was dissatisfied with all the wasted-time resulting from the crappy-version of the retail upgrade before finding that a standalone version worked
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why did you waste time?
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, so you bought 2 copies of Win98SE a decade after it came out, and were disappointed...
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: USB mouse kept freezing with the upgrade -- USB mouse worked okay with the standalone 
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: USB mice suck anyhow, a PS2 mouse works far better
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: SE was the first MS OS that supported USB *at all*
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the fact is that even Win3.1 (even Dos) is able to support USB if the software drivers are available
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: are they?
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Microsoft prefer to ditch the customers of prior OS
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: send them an angry letter or write microsoft with a $. that'll show them
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they stopped supporting 98 in what, 2005?
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: move with the times
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: 3.1 for workgroups just ended a while ago :P
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: they supported Win 3.1 for workgroups longer than Win98se ?
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: dunno. go find out and stay off the channel for a while
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: arrgle
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: k, backed up software registry key using bartpe, copied it to main pc, loaded the hive into the registry, tried to use keyfinder on it, as per keyfinder's instructions, keyfinder doesn't even look in the hive, let alone find the key
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: grunt
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it wins the "badly inaccurate or incomplete instructions" award
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: nah, the zoo goal still holds that title
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i disagree, i managed to do the zoo goal
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nothing wrong with the zoo goal
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: try ftii aq :P
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bingo, got there eventually
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coloring Colori Tech: anyone know anything about the mushclient from the aard website?
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: just ask your question, it is easier that way
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: MushClient 4.37 worked out of the box for me
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coloring Colori Tech: well lets put it this way ive been using gmud for years and i just now started using this
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coloring Colori Tech: thats muh problem heh
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: wonder why some of these files i've receovered from a damaged hdd have hidden flags
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you ever get access to the prod key?
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ymerd Tech: Anybody there using the Aard Mush client ?
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: ask your question
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ymerd Tech: How can i use variables in aliases ? 
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: yes
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: make sure you check expand variables in your alias
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ymerd Tech: Ok, checked, but how to refer to a var ? %Varname ? $Varname ?
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: arname
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: oops
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ymerd Tech: Thanks !! It works !
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Benevolent Kyroda Tech: anyone got cmud?
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Benevolent Kyroda Tech: paid for cmud
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NightQueen Nehellania Tech: yep
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I do.
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: What's up?
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Benevolent Kyroda Tech: how does the licensing on it work
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Benevolent Kyroda Tech: in zmud u can only install on 3 comps for example
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NightQueen Nehellania Tech: same
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Benevolent Kyroda Tech: if u reformatted and reinstalled it counted as another install (until 6 months) or w/e the license wore off
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You have 7 days to use the license from the time you bought it. You can retrieve a license, but you're limited to so many within a time frame. Per the EULA, you are prohibited from distributing it on more than three machines, and CMUD should only be running on one machine at a time.
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Benevolent Kyroda Tech: well i plan to use it on both my laptop and pc is why im concerned
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You have to log into the Zuggsoft Store and just retrieve your key. Should be the same name you use to log into the forums.
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You can without problem.
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Benevolent Kyroda Tech: ok
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Benevolent Kyroda Tech: thanks
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brbol Tech: I am new
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brbol Tech: can I download this game and play it on my comp without internet?
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Benevolent Kyroda Tech: nope
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: No. You need an internet connection to play Aardwolf.
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: offline aard is like offline google... 
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brbol Tech: I meant to run my own server for me only?
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: there are many mud drivers that you can get, if you want to install one
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: this was once dirky i belive so... download dirky source and work on it youself
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: likely the Aarf in the Blue Cave
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: mis?
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: yep
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: figured.
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL ruffles Xyliz's hair playfully.
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brbol Tech: OK. Thanks
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Opinions on Drupal?
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polaris Tech: i closed the chat box in the mush client. how do i get it back
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Try initaard?
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polaris Tech: yea its still not there just aard map stats and big map
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: file -> open worlds in startup list
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polaris Tech: nothing happened. imma try restarting it brb
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polaris Tech: fixed it :D
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stormwind Tech: is it possible to have variables in a SQL statement?
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: Anyone know a hot-key to switch my bookmarks in WinAmp? I just have radio stations
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: er, to switch stations
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: is there a spell check for the command window in Mush?
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: whats better? laptop coolers that blow up or down?
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: The ones that blow up worry me.
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I like things that blow up.
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: blow down
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: pull heat away from it
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Depends on where the fan is at, I suppose. ;)
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: usually not enough circulation under it to blow cool air up
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: If, for whatever reason, it's on top, then you'd want it to blow up, following your logic. ;)
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: Charn = smartass
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: thanks for the info
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: no problemo senior
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: damnit wheres my little tilde
T1/r5/2009-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no extended chars on public channels ;-)
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: And this one?
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: any scripters out there?
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: What sort of script?
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monsieur Dorleac Tech: well, if we're taking requests i could use a scan highlighter script for mush :P
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: curious how to go about making a capture script that will make a window popup on joining gq or accepting campaign
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: ... What client?
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: zmud
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Finger Fiendish. Go to his site.
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: oh sweet he already has one
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: thanks charn
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: no thinking woo!
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: zmud's way of handling windows sucks
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Hows it  going ladies and gentlemen
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoh Tech: when i moved from mush to flash from my home comp to this school comp (on flash now) i'm getting a stat line that is two lines long how can i get rid of it
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: statmon
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witblitz Tech: hi there u clever people
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witblitz Tech: any of u using mush?
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: anyone know of an app to get files off an ipod other than itunes ?
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your OS
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: an ipod is just a USB drive
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: can't you do it via windows exporer?
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: without itunes  installed my os shows whats there in raw data(?) form, itunes wants to erase whats on the ipod. any other suggestion ?
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: most decent media players have ipod support
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your OS will show the files themselves
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: I'll dig around with the other media players I've got then. thanks
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: sorry abe, if it did I wouldn't have asked
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: as far as i know the music is not stored as regular files. there's some obfuscating
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're plain files
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so you have to 'sync' it instead of just dropping something on it and listening to it
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's just to write the playlists
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: only seen it once and it was damn weird. the filenames were scrambled etc
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the music itself is simple file copy
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: sorry, you're still wrong
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, I'm not, I do it constantly on various ipods
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the smaller ipods change the file name to be something like a 4-character short
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so you're saying you can just drop stuff on it in usb mode and then listen to the music you put on there? using explorer for example
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but it's still just an mp3/mp4 file
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no dagnir, I'm not
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because that doesn't put the playlist there
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nonsense
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm saying that when an ipod is populated, you can go to another computer, drag-copy the files off, and throw those into any other music player becayse they're just plain mp3/mp4 files
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dag, you're looking in the wrong direction
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: every audio player i've ever had have been able to do this without demanding me to use some horrible software to 'sync' it
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the question was how to get them off...to get them off, you can just copy the file
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: exept for my htc phone, but there's a workaround
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's many workarounds for the ipod as well
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but as it's the best software that exists to date, it's not a limitation in practice :P
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm sure there are. i just hate when manufacturers force you to do the things 'their way'
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: www.versiontracker.com type itunes, there's tons of software to transfer in both directions
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: without itunes windows shows the drive, recognizes thats there's data there, but shows no info when opening the drive.
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: I understand that the erase&sync is piracy protection. I don't want to compare penises with you. what works for you doesn't work for me. its enough to say that my os won't get the info
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: so, back to the original question, is there an app that will
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: habasi, show hidden folders
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're letting your OS not display stuff
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: $ls -a /media/ipod/
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: next question: show hidden files used to be under "tools->folder options" some update to windows changed that, do you know where it is now ?
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: still there for me...you vista?
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: nope, XP
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tools, folder options, view tab
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's there
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, first thing I do on a computer, show hidden, don't hide system, don't hide extensions
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: it may be for you, it isn't for me. if I ask I usually check first. lets just assume I did some leg work before I spoke up
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: this a school/lab computer?
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sounds like you're being restricted
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: nods, I did that too way back when, along with showing file extensions and such. some update changed it tho :()
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: nope, home comp. should be on admin account. I'll check my priveliges but this is only account so...
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: also 'folder options' seems to be gone from my system tools :(
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Habasi mutters something quietly to herself.
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: habasi, check out HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer as well as the same under HKLM, see if there's a nofolderoptions key
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: thanks, will do
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: looks like I disabled registry editing, know how to re-enable it ?
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: a little searching is leading me toward the brontok virus. have seen it on my anti virus software before but looks like i'm still infected. off to try to remove it
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Habasi waves happily.
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, you can re-enable registry editing from the command line
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sorry, at work & only look at aard occasionally
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://hubpages.com/hub/How-to-enable-Regedit
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: the HKCU\.... you told me to check earlier. is there a quick way to navigate directly to those folders instead of clicking on each folder in turn ? will 'find' in registry editor do it ?
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Hkey_Current_User
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Is there a way to set an IF function in MUSHclient triggers?
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: yes
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: anyone know an efficient way to turn thermal/light energy, like that produced from burning small amounts of hydrogen into electricity?
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: -3
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: sorry:)
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: Can anybody see articles older than today on Slashdot?
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coloring Colori Tech: does anyone have problems running zmud 7.21 with vista?
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: answer for most programs running under vista is (1) turn off UAC, (2) run as admin, or (3) move files from program files folder...any of the 3 usually fix the issue
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if doing any of those 3 doesn't help, then you can run in a compatibility mode
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Benevolent Kyroda Tech: anyone with cmud checked out allurans package?
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Benevolent Kyroda Tech: it says nothing about what it contains :p
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: whats the point of a USB-hub having internal ports ?
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: whats the point of a USB-hub having internal ports ?
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Benevolent Kyroda pounds on Habasi's head with his fists. That looks painful.
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: gah sry bout that
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the point is that they use the same board for different sized hubs
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: internal USB devices ?
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: but whatdya do with the internal ports ? what would you mount inside the case permanently, a thumb drive  ?
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you mean internal to a computer, or internal just to a particular hub?
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: internal to a computer can attach to many devices, also used for the front-panel USB ports...they're basically a leader cable from an interior port
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: internal to the comp case: a pci usb hub. ports on the outside and inside
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: ahh, my front side usbs are wired directly to the mobo iirc, possibly with a quick disconnect of sorts. but not just a female to male extension cable
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: but that makes a lil sense to me now
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: so I got my 'folder options' back, unfucked the registry somewhat. now to see if I completely got rid of brontok...
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, good luck
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Habasi waves happily.
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kazuma Tech: does anybody know how to enable or disable a class from a trigger that uses LUA instead of Zscript in CMUD, with zscript its #T- classname or #T+ classname and I need to figure out how to do that with a trigger that is in LUA
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: how would I go about using my antivirus software to scan a HDD that I have ftp access to ? I could take it from where it is but I really don't want to if I can scan it remotely
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: ... and put it into my comp as secondary hdd
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I'm not sure you can - do you have SSH access to it, though?
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: whats ssh access ?
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: It means you can log in to the computer where the hard disk is physically attached and run programs on that computer as if you were there.
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: it's not a normal OS but I should be able to. I'll google ssh and see where that gets me
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: What sort of OS is it, if it's not a normal one?
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: xbox, modded, formatted to fatX, running XBMC. but sometimes I use it for extra storage
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Nice, let me read what XBMC is :D
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: just wanna be sure nothing on it is corrupt without pulling it out
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: I have my Xbox modded, but i had it loaded with games. I have 170 games, 12 emulators and up to 5k+ gmaes per emulator
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: 5k crap games ?
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: yeah but it got old quick, beat all the games and now its mostly secondary storage
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: yeah mostly
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: The HugoNew games are ok and the snes
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Well, there is a wiki on xbmc.org which I'm looking at now...
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: I was trying to 'map network drive' but that didn't wanna work :(
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Well since it's running XBMC, you can probably ignore what I said about SSH earlier. It might work, but it might be a bit of an overkill.
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Why doesn't 'map network drive' want to work?
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: possibly, but researching it may lead me to what I want. and I'll be more knowledgeable for it :)
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Of course, of course :)
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Panzer - have you tried going on IRC?
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: clicking on the drive(s) won't highlight the 'ok' button, just wants to go to the next lower level, as if it wants to map a specific file/folder
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: nah, don't have any exp with irc.
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Panzer: try logging on via http://mibbit.com to the FreeNode server.
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: That's a web app that allows you to IRC from within your browser.
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: And the Freenode server has a room #xbmc which has 138 people sitting in it right now :)
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: do you mean using irc to get into it or using irc to ask about my issue ?
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: To ask about your issue :)
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: ahh nods
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I'm sitting in the room now.
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: I wonder if I still have mirc setup over here. I'll look into mibbit n mirc
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Anyone try out Amazon's Kindle yet?
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there was a thread on it on boards recently
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: I'm a poor college student... But I'm pretty sure I could get my textbooks on it. Might be a bit tedious, either finding the pdf on the internet or scanning it myself, but it would save me money in the long run for sure.
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: I'll check the boards. :)
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: scanning it yourself would be worse than tedious...they're not exactly loose leaf
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: is that cp noter v2 you were talking about for tracking cp data?
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: using win XP, I'd like to copy a couple dozen files from my thumb drive to my HDD, but they're in different folders. is it possible to queue them all(similar to how an ftp client would) somehow or do I just have to copy n paste each set individually ?
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: no, my ftp client won't allow me to do it from local to local
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight Yorke Tech: teracopy works for me
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: I'll google that and see what I get, thanks
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: so my old campaign counter doesn't work anymore, guessing something changed in a zmud scripting thing in the last 5 years
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: anyone know of a good campaign timer out there?
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: The one on Fiendish's site not good enough for you?
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: it isn't a timer
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: his script is awesome
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Ah, I see. You want a timer. :P
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: i just want a timer =)
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: i had one but it isn't workin anymore
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: everything is 16 hrs now
T1/r5/2009-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: any reason why my makewindow command is not working?
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xanxis Tech: Anyone have this channel on?
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: I fo
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: I do*
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xanxis Tech: Could you help me write a trigger/Macro for a buff spell system?
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xanxis Tech: I am not to...gifted, with the writing of a fore mentioned things.
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: xanxis, there are pre-done ones that you can download
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what client do you use?
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xanxis Tech: Pre done programs? or a list of buffs? I use MUSHclient
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pre-done scripts/plugins to spell you up
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: im getting access violation errors whenever i try to open a window, any ideas?
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: says its a parsing error
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: xanxis, check out http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=8780
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xanxis Tech: What I a looking for is to make something with the command 'BUFF' and I will buff myself or a target with all of my buffs that I currently have. Something to where I can add spells as I learn them.
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, the plugin on that page does it
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xanxis Tech: perfect Thanks Abelinc
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it will keep you fully spelled up...when a spell wears off, it'll cast it automatically when you've got enough mana, and are in a position to cast
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xanxis Tech: Again, Thanks a bunch Abelinc. This is exactly what I was looking for
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xanxis Tech: So I Downloaded That Spellups plugin and can't get it to run, I followed the easy step by step instructions, but I still can
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xanxis Tech: can't seem to find it
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xanxis Tech: hello out there!
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what message is it giving you?
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xanxis Tech: no message, I can
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xanxis Tech: no message, I can't find the Plugin Installer to install it.
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to the file menu -> plugins
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xanxis Tech: went to File->Plugins..
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you click on Add
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xanxis Tech: I am a moron...thank you...
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: I just got the mapper working, but when I set it to off... It makes all my numpad directions automatically "open east" and "open west" and all that. I think it's still trying to track me. How do I keep it from doing that?
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: You get 436 gold coins from the hacked corpse of a harpy.
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: i hacked harpy
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: ph34r m3
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: anyone good with routers and mac filter?
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: I need a reasonably priced ($50 or under) sound card that works well with Linux and ALSA.  Anyone have any recommendations?  I don't need anything super fancy, just something whose configuration doesn't feel kludged like this $18 sound card I have.  I do a lot of gaming and simultaneous Ventrilo use in wine.
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Sound Blaster AudioPCI128 :-D
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: Okay, I'll take a look at that.  Thanks.
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: that was a joke. That card is some 10 years old and impossible to find.
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I don't have any decent suggestions. I've never had any problems with sound cards, except those integrated AC97 junk.
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: haha, the joke's on me.  XD  I was looking for it on newegg!
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: Shows how little I know about sound cards :p
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I bet the ALSA project has a list of good sound cards. Also, if you ever need Linux help, ping me.
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: But yeah, I'm using a cheapie $18 card to keep from having to use integrated, but I get a funny feeling that it may be the cause of a couple of LOTRO crashes I've had
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: Good idea on the alsa list - thanks :)
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: LOTRO? What's that?
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: The Lord of the Rings Online
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Never heard. By the way, why not the integrated card?
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: Its sound quality is meh and certain things I do when using it just feel... meh.  I dunno, it's hard to explain
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Can you actually distinguish sound quality? Have you tried running an ABX test?
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I've heard lots o' badmouthing about 
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: about different hardware, speakers n' such, but haven't been able to distinguish the quality.
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: Never heard of an ABX test.  There've been times I've switched back to the onboard sound card and my kinmates in Vent noticed a big (and worse) difference in quality.
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: So it's not just me when it comes to the mic input, anyway.  Output isn't quite as effected.
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: ABX test is where you get to listen to good and bad speakers/card whenever you want (A and B), then have to listen to X and say if it's good or bad.
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: Ah.
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Is there any way to retreive/backup the contents of a user from a Win XP Documents and Settings folder when it just gives a "Access Denied" message?
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Mount it under a different OS
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I'm under a second Win XP installation right now, and it's still access denied :/
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: If I were you, I'd find the nearest Linux LiveCD (Ubuntu should do fine), boot with it and try to mount it.
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I have a Gentoo Live CD easily available
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Gentoo LiveCD? I didn't know they existed. Well, whatever does the job.
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Rathik: that should do fine.
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: If it's able to read the drive, will it be able to write as well?
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Most likely, yes.
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Not necessarily.
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: It should be able to be mounted rw. But it depends.
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Linux has gained decent NTFS support only in recent years, so YMMV.
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I'll give it a try!
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: how do i stop text from echoing in my zmud client on command?
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: sorry how do i stop commands that i enter at the command line from being echoed?
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: what client?
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: zmud
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: nvm.
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: no clue, i only know in MUSH
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: view - prefs - script parser
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: but if i want this functionality in my script.. like when it auto enters commands for me, i don't want it echoing to my screen, is there a way?
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: #send?
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: mm not quite what i was looking for.. thx anyway
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: #send doesn't echo. so what are you looking for?
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: every 20 minutes, i have a trigger to do an alias "fingerupdate" for me, which basically fingers me and updates all my personal stats
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: you finger yourself every 20 minutes?
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: you hound!
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: haha i can't help it :p
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: haha anyway
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: if i #send the alias "fingerupdate" it wouldn't be processed on my side anymore
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir sighs.
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: why would you send an alias to the mud?
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you need to use #send in the fingerupdate commands
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: i'm not sending an alias to the mud.. every 20 minutes i'm doing an alias on my side, just that a command in the alias, "finger" is being used and tt echos on my side
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: its just a cosmetic thing heh
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: don't want to see the command "finger" when i send it to the mud
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: then use #send for finger
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: #exec ?
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: ahh ok thx that works
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: don't use send to exec the alias
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: #send finger
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aapple Tech: hi
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aapple Tech: can i ask a few questions? :)
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aapple Tech: how can i do triggers please
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: what client?
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: what client?
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: What client do you haved?
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: Heh, wow
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: cntrl+shift+8
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: for MUSHclient
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aapple Tech: lol mush .. ok in the triggers spot on the client.. do i put the 'You can no longer breathe under water' with quotes?
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: Huh? 
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aapple Tech: then in the bottom line (big box) do i put there cast underwater breathing?>
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aapple Tech: lol
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: no need for quotes
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aapple Tech: ok no need for quotes.. got that
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: just copy and paste the entire message
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: No, for the function just copy from the screen and paste, for the command set it as c 333
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: then you might want to click the 'convert to regexpression' box to anchor that trigger
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: so it doesn't fire when you don't want it to
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aapple Tech: ok newb quest.. to see the spell number whats the command. lol i forgot 
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: 'show <spellname>'
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: showspell [name]
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aapple Tech: they arent working the triggers
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: How do i set up a math function in mush trigger?
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warder Tech: does anyone know where cmud puts the upgrade files when it is downloaded on vista?
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warder Tech: I checked program files/cmud but it's not there.
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laank Tech: does anyone run the mush client in linux?  i'm running tf.
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laank Tech: i'd rather have all the views like i saw on the aardwolf website
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Izocinoc Tech: yes, you can use mushclient on linux using wine
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laank Tech: i'd rather not use wine, actually.  do you use linux?
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Izocinoc Tech: not at the moment, but I have
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laank Tech: ok.  i think i'll have to tough it out in the console
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laank Tech: thanks
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Izocinoc Tech: n/p.. just curious.. why don't you want to use wine?
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: alcohol is bad for you :/
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laank Tech: i don't have a good reason, honestly
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laank Tech: i'm drinking margaritas
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laank Tech: got done with school today
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laank Tech: i have a netbook and it's pretty wimpy
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: i'm looking for a good script that will time my cp's for me, nothing else just want a timer
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: at the start in one line type:  realtime;cp request;cp check;cp info 
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: and when the campaign ends, type: realtime  -- and use pencil and paper to calculate the elapsed time
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: teehee
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hallet Tech: ...
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: can i redirect /ColourNote functions to the chats window in the aardmush client?
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xanxis Tech: So I woke up from sleeping anf now the room descriptions look like somequit
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: anyone know how to move a zmud window to the right side and it stay on top without it going into split screen mode?
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polaris Tech: what you mean right side?
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oaz Tech: does anyone else use fire client?
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: of my screen, if i try to drag a created window it goes into split window mode automaically
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: can barely move it over halfway
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monsieur Dorleac Tech: you know, the opposite of left
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polaris Tech: are you on max window? 
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: yes
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polaris Tech: try minimizing it the whole zmud windo then drag it off screen
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polaris Tech: i think that might solve it
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polaris Tech: it drags the window off zmud if you have it minimized
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: k i'll try it next time
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: In MUSH is there a way to store something acces in an attack such as c m garg. can i save (garg) somehow so i can just can easily attack one mob after the other with the same nam.
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: I want something to keep track of my qps, and to add whenever i gain any, sendable to spouse(st). I will pay for someone to make this for me.
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Will you pay for me to tell you a site to get that same thing from? *inno*
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: seconded
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klugefoo Tech: you know, it might help to specify what you'd like it made for, zmud? tf?
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Sorry its MUSH
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: The other one i was wanting to make was a compilation of damage dealt and recieved per fight. I could do it if i only knew how to do a math function in mush, also how to exclude groupies. If anyone could give me advice on how to do this, it would be greatly appreciated.
T1/r5/2009-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Read about lua, DK, and you'll pretty much get it.
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Any way to convert strings to floats or doubles in Java other than direct casting?
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I'm using a nasty Java wrapper that doesn't allow strings to even be considered as integers... :(
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: new Integer("String")
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: String s = "100.00"; try {float f = Float.valueOf (s.trim().floatValue(); }
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: + the right parenthesis i forgot
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: its simple as of java 1.5 just do  float f = new Float("100.00")
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: autoboxing feature
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chosig just googled, can't code Java...
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: That didn't work ... I got an InvalidClassorInterface Error.
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: which java version are you using?
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I'm holding on the libraries for JDK 1.6 ... technically there is no problem.
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: http://www.velocityreviews.com/forums/t128798-convert-string-to-float-not-so-trivial.html
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: But I'm working within the limits of Mobile Processing, a Java-based language that doesn't have floats or doubles.
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: wouldt that be somethin to discuss at the beginning of the question
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: you dont need floats or doubles assembly doesnt
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: so why do they limit forgetskill to 30?
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: is there a reason
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Ageha, don't talk to me about assembly now 
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Ageha, don't talk to me about assembly now ;) I'm not about to code in assembly through Java. Defeats the purpose of using Java ...
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: use integers and shift?
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: make the "java-based" language liek assembly
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: you want to use float and double on a language that doesnt have it?
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I am trying to get from string to any sort of numerical value, I will work out hacking from there.
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: GentooX - trying to. It doesn't complain when you use floats, doubles, etc. It's just not supported by default.
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I'm trying to look up examples where they read numerical values from text files.
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: then you only need libraries.  try looking at scanner and for autoboxin. i made a demo for you http://www.pastebin.ca/1402629
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: String s = "100.00"; float f = Float.parseFloat(s); ?
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Ah, let me see, Chosig.
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: why did they have to make java case-sensitive?
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KinPYtterP Moolb Tech: to make sure you're paying attention
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I'd agree, Moolb.
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: lol to make sure you dont do nasty things
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: and never ran out of identifiers....
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: OK, I'm getting "Type java.lang.Double$parseDouble was not found" as an error message.
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: you dont have the library for it Double
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I'm sure it should be in the core API, but otherwise which library/package would I need to import?
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: OK, looking at Sun docs. :D
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: its in java.lang
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I'm trying import java.lang.Double; now ...
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: you must have a trimmed down version of the library or its not imported by default
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I'm guessing both :(
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: does it have scanner?
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: does it have Scanner?
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: if everything elsem you do your own method :)
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: if everything else fail, you do your own method :)
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: GentooX - I'll try compiling the code as a .java in WTK instead of using the native compiler.
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: Trurien: if you will use autoboxing make your platform is java 5
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: GentooX, just wondering, JDK 1.6 is > Java 5, right?
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: yes and you must mean jdk 6
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: they change numbering from jdk 5
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: if you are confuse about the numbers, read here http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/relnotes/version-5.0.html
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: I am connected to the internet but my browser is not loading page. How do I fix this?
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does http://74.125.159.99/ take you anywhere?
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: yes
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: hhmm yes it does
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: french google
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: google.com
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You decide the only way to have some quiet is to gag Im your Huckleberry.
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You giggle.
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Interesting, Huck. It goes to English Google for me. ;)
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: DNS resolver issue, then.
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: now Abe i told you none of that in public channels
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: how do I fix this?
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Trojan, possibly, with dns changer.
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: ipconfig /flushdns?
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Or your DNS needs to be fixed.
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: possibly
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: ok ima stop chiming in with irrelevant info and goto bed, gota be up in 3 hours
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, ipconfig /flushdns wasn't irrelevant, it's not a bad first step
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods at you in agreement. 
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: where do I go to fix dns
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cocopops, go to start menu, to run, and type "cmd" and hit enter
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Go to Start->Run->cmd, then type ipconfig /flushdns
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: ok then ?
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: or you could just type that ipconfig part to run box straight away
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: foren, then you don't see output
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: most people dont understand what they see there anyways
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but it helps when I then ask what it said
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: then ? what do I do 
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and helps because I'm going to follow up by asking to type similar subsequent commands
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did it say that it successfully flushed the DNS resolver cache?
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: actually it's default DNS ... what should I use for DNS
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: you can try opendns 208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 4.2.2.2 & 4.2.2.3 are easier to type ;-)
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: whose dns is that
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but leaving it default is usually fine, or your ISP generally gives you a list of their servers
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: you could give it a try so you call bug your ISP about the DNS problem
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: and lets you have fun while they fix it
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: abelinc, do I have to restart? ISP isn't working today cos it's a public holiday
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, you don't have to restart
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although that's usually a good first-step in troubleshooting issues ;-)
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: no, just the network connection
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just saving the setting will restart everything that needs to be done
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: hhmm it's still not working :(
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: usually that fixes the problem. Donno why it doesn't this time
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "ipconfig /all"...what's it showing for dns servers?
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: I can't exactly find DNS server but it does have Primary DNS Suffix and it's blank
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there should be another section for the adapter itself, below the windows IP configuration
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: oh sorry ... found it
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: DNS Server 10.1.1.1
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: hhmm I've fixed the DNS server to 4.2.2.2 so how come it's still 10.1.1.1
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: so how does it work? maybe I should restart? this is bizarre
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you sure you fixed it in the right network connection (if laptop, wired and wireless show up separately)
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: oh ... I didn't know. How do I tell
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: one will be called local area connection, the other will say wireless in its name
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: I fixed it on wireless setting I think but I'll check it
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the right one should say connected, others should say disconnected or network cable unplugged
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: TCPIP version 4 or 6
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 4
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: wonderful. I fixed it in the wrong place Abelinc. That's why. 
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: thanks. It's working now. Thanks heaps
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cool :-)
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: thank you :)
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-)
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xanxis Tech: Hey I keep having this 'Failed to cast 'Rune of ix' 10 times. Removing from spellup list.' pop up in combat when I type 'cast 43' Yes I have the Spellups plugin. ANy ideas? 
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xanxis Tech: anyone on tech?
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xanxis Tech: fiar enough.
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: Xanxis it attempts to remove a spell from your list of spells on your spellup plugin.  its trigger based and doesnt check the contents of the list hence the error
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothing Noplacebo Tech: anyone know the failsafe logins for ubuntu 8.10? housemate just filled his root directory...
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: just choose safe mode
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: Noplacebo: you may need to press escape while booting for grub to display
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothing Noplacebo Tech: cheers, thought it was at the login screen, will use grub.
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Anyone using tt++?
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I'm trying to set it up to connect to an IRC server as well..
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Real Heafmo Tech: I'm having trouble locating which sound card I have, it seems not having a sound card installd properly is causing MUSHclient to crash
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Real Heafmo Tech: is it possible my sound card is inbuilt?
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: what would be a regexp expression that would match one or more alphanumeric characters including punctuation?
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: and spaces?
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: you using MUSH?
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: yeah
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: I found clicking on help>regexp web page  very handy
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: maybe it'd have what you need
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: Drachon not any character?
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: not really worried about negating anything
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: just need to catch all to end of lien
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: line*
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: are you talking about lua?
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: yeah.
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: want to make an alias, and that is what i need
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: usually (.*?) works
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: i've tried - You see (.*) would match 'You see (anything)'. ... but it doesn't capture more than one word
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: what does the extra ? at the end do?
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: isn't that a trigger?
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mad Hermit Starky Tech: did you try .*?
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: never mind the example i gave, i'm talking about the regexp
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: ? means 1 or more
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why has someone called themselves after a rather naff operating system?
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Why bother? :P
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: in short, i'm trying to alias # to repeat commands... ie, #2 quest buy trivia
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: I heard some nut renamed to Sony Playstaion
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: and it works for single word commands, but anything with a space, it breaks
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: really strange
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: I find it easier just to enable enter to repeat last command
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: no need for a script
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: game>configure>commands - check auto repeat command box
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: but even with hitting "enter button" to repeat commands, i have to manually count and rely that i've entered the right number of times, there's room for error, and i am still "repeating" something
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: that isn't what i want to do gregor
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: screw what you think, i'm asking for very specific help
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: Hmm, it seems highly similar to what you wish to do
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: Considering you don't know how to do what you actually want to do
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jokerette Tech: Saying 'screw what you think' to the person trying to help you...ingenious...
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: so to reiterate in more technical terms, i'm looking to capture to a named string a line of data including spaces that continues to end of line
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: jokerette, he wasn't answering the question, and was trying to force his own opinion.
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: there's a difference between forcing an opinion and trying to answer a question
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: I was attempting to provide an alternat viable solution
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jokerette Tech: Perhaps he was trying to give you an alternative since he may not know how to do what you were asking?
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: ^(.*)$
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: gentoox can i refer to that capture with %1 ?
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: #loo 10 {quest buy trivia}
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: dumbass
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: That'll only match an entire line.  That won't match something within a line
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: dumbarse!
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: (.*) will match more than one word, including spaces
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: sitting there and asking stupid questions about the basics, then abusing people who try to answer you, is unlikely to make you friends :P
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: that alias isnt' definied for me chuft
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: chuft
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: you're a dumbass
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: it's not a stupid question when the "basics" do not appear to work as they should.
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: and a double dumbass on you!
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Habasi grabs some popcorn and sits back to watch the show.
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: they work just fine for everyone else
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: so perhaps it is ;)
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Humpton sits back with Habasi
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Habasi pulls Humpton into a nearby barn to have a nice roll in the hay.
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: would anyone happen to know why adobe premiere pro is importing clips upside down?
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Real Heafmo Tech: can somebody help
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: With?
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Real Heafmo Tech: I've downloaded the aardwolf mushclient from the aardwolf website onto another PC, it's not auto configuring or anything, no plugins come with it... I'm confused, initaard doesn't work either.
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Perhaps something happened during download process, try to uninstall and then reinstall it
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Real Heafmo Tech: have done so, multiple times
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volans Tech: is this on XP or Vista?
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Real Heafmo Tech: xp
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Well if all else fails the Plugins are on the MUSH site, you can just manually install them.
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volans Tech: are you thining that that client comes with more plugins than just bigmap and chat?
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volans Tech: if you are thinking that it comes with spellup and stuff, you have to do that yourself leater
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Real Heafmo Tech: all i have is the mainwindow
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Real Heafmo Tech: let me log on and i'll give you a few examples, 2sec
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Real Heafmo Tech: {stats}54/30,44/30,60/30,60/30,38/25,50/25,100,100,100,156,192,You are Standing.,9999,1000/1000,871
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Real Heafmo Tech: {chan ch=tech}Tech:
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Those are you tags, and statmon. type tags off, and statmon
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: hey uhm i have a rather silly situation here, any ubuntu gurus around?
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: maybe no ones a guru
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: whats your problem anyway?
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: well i kind of played around with permissions and accidentally set permissions for my own account as 'no access or whatever, no read'
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: reboot-> press escape -> choose safe mode
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: that should give you root access
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: the esc is for grub loader to shop up
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: mkay
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: i was thinking about just straight up logging in as root
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: but no idea what the default pass is..?
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yep, safe mode stops during boot and gets you to a place where you can log in as root.
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: its ubuntu 8.10 if that helps
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: there is no such thing in ubuntu. that sudo thingy
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Not sure how it's set up now, but it might give you a root login by default.
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: GentooX - there is a root account, it's just not given much attention in Ubuntu. :)
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: safe mode gives you a root shel
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: yea i'm not too expert with shell.. how do i change accunt permissions in shell?
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: chmod
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: What sort of permissions again?
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: file access... i locked myself out of 'home' folder
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: **facepalm**
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: you might do a chmod -R 700 <user home>
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: there's always a root account i linux distributions, ubuntu (and others) have chosen to disable login to root for safety reasons...
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: May I ask how you did it, though?
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: and that does what?
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: sudo passwd root
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: and choose a password to enable root login (but it's stupid)
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: easily home folder-> properties -> permissions somethign like that and then drop down meny to 'no read/write'
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Hm, OK. Could you log in as root, please? Is it working?
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: dfury, sudo chmod 755 /home/dfury (or waht your login is)
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: yes but now if i try to reboot it doesnt even load my profile
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Then try a ls -l /home/ and tell us what you see next to your home folder.
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: ok i'll try that
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yup, I'm guessing it's because your login can't read any details from the home folder.
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: thanks guys, i'll try it in a few and let you know how it went...   
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: well, now that's seen, notepad.exe using 50% of cpu :)
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: Must have one crappy CPU
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: Have a 100MB processor? :P
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: HappyDog Madcatz is agreeing with that Borin person again...
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: I'm too slow :P
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: nope, 3Gig one :)
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: quad, or duel core?
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: I don't think it really matters with notepad :P
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: replace text for 40k lines :)
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: No, no, it does. Notepad needs alot of brute strength to run
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: I think it's capped to 50% as it could have taken more easily
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Borin smirks.
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Real Heafmo Tech: anyone experienced with mush got a lot of spare time?
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laank Tech: i am seeing a lot more words in the parser than i normally do
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laank Tech: is there a way to turn that off?
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you mean {chan ch=tech} and {stats}bunch of numbers?
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laank Tech: yes!
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "tags off"
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laank Tech: awesome.  thank you!
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you probably tried using the MUSHclient from aard's website...that extra text is there to help scripts be easier to write
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laank Tech: yes, exactly
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because the MUSHclient comes pre-installed with some great scripts, it turns those features on at the MUD's settings for your character
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laank Tech: do you program?
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: its scripts hide the tags (gag), so you don't realize that they're there
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: and returned to zmud due the complicated human-computer interface mush had?
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: zmud has some great scripts that use those tags as well...finger fiendish for some
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I script more than I program
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laank Tech: cool.  i am, or should be, learning how to do that
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: then you probably can answer this, why does #find name work but not #show 1143mo|2587mo|2690mo|4596mo|4949mo|5796mo|8763mo|11002mo|11003mo|12842mo|13742mo|13747mo in db search?
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: whoa, that fcked up
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: then you probably can answer this, why does #find name work but not #show %find("name") in db search?
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I don't use zmud, so while I can help with scripting concepts, the syntax isn't something I can really help with
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: *sigh*
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try to get in touch with ozzy
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: I would use mush but it has too complicated simple trigger and alias interface
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ozzy & chuft probably do the most with databases and zmud
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: I really should make a script that collects data according to amount of luck
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: no need for such, but it would be fun after a year to see what it has collected
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Palesnake Tech: how do i keep the text i type to stay on so i dun half to retype it
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: What client?
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that would depend on your client
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Palesnake Tech: im usin the one from aardwolf
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: game->configure->commands, check the box that says "keep commands on prompt line"
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try game -> configure -> commands
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, that :-)
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: Although, with the default settings, hitting the up arrow will recall your most recent command, which you might like better.
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: Or there's an "auto-repeat" option, that will repeat your last command if you just hit enter again.
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Palesnake Tech: how do i turn autorepeat on
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: Same place, it's a couple of check-boxes away from the last one
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Palesnake Tech: sry guys im not seeing wat your talking about
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Palesnake Tech: im new to muds
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polaris Tech: are you using mush palesnake?
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Palesnake Tech: ya
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polaris Tech: hit alt+0
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polaris Tech: then auto repeat commabnd is on the right on top in the center
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polaris Tech: do u see it?
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Palesnake Tech: ya that helped
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polaris Tech: woot woot
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Palesnake Tech: tanks abunch gents
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when we said game -> configure -> commands, that meant to go to the top menu of MUSH (file, edit, etc) where one menu is called game...one of the options under game is configure, and it has a sub-menu of commands
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polaris Tech: short keys are easier :P
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: i have MUSH installed and whenever it goes to save the world file a popup comes up that says that access to Aardwolf.MCL is denied.... anyone ever have this problem?
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're running vista
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volans Tech: Vista?
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: UAC
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: UAC - vista
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: it works fine on my laptop that runs vista
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vista doesn't let programs write to the program files directory
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: didn't i already tell you that Hhugo?
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 3 options (one of which you've done on your laptop)
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: run as admin, turn off UAC, or move the config elsewhere
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: what is VAC?
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: oh that crappy thing... i thought i did that
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: UAC, user account control
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volans Tech: that annoying message about do you want to conitnue
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: User Access Control i think
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GentooX thanks you heartily. 
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: a security feature introduced in Microsoft's Windows Vista operating system.
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: shit lol yeah i forgot to turn it off... just build a new machine and installed vista yesterday night
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: thanks guys
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: to disable the UAC... do you just run MSCONFIG?
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: careful with the language on tech... but yeah, I know what you mean--Vista's made to protect the consumer who has no clue what they're doing...
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to users control panel
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volans Tech: user accounts
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: it in security under user accounts
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volans Tech: far left
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: Vista is not really that bad, once you customize it and whatnot
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: yeah my laptop is just the way i want it and i like having vista on it
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: this comp will soon be too :P
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: Same here, DELL INSPIRON 1525
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: yeah, but the fact that you have to customize it is a PITA...
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: I like the aero, its very smexy. 
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: just like having to customize any other OS, though...
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: If you have enough RAM then vista is a dream.
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: hahaha have to reboot to change UAC lol
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rude boy Hhugo shakes his fist in the air angrily!
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: I forgot, Insead of changing UAC you can run MUSHclient in administrator mode!
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: Kinda late, heh
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volans Tech: that did not work for me
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: no i need to change UAC anyway
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: easier to just turn UAC off
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: i thought i already did though... guess i forgot
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: UAC=EVIL!
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: anyway... time to reboot
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: See you in 20 minutes, Hhugo
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: I've got old machines right now--and they don't have enough RAM to run Vista. They're running a customized version of XP that's trimmed out a lot of the extra junk I don't need..
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: My laptop Is pretty good, except it runs graphical games like crap
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: I was really disappointed at first
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: lol ok back
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: my current laptop is a Compaq Presario v2311...not a bad machine, but needs a RAM upgrade as it's only got 512MB right now. But since I managed to have my Blackberry fall out of my pocket into a bucket of mop water on Thurs, the RAM will have to wait a couple of months.
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: ouch, that sucks
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: I tried playing HL2 on my laptop
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: another question.... anyone use "consider" plugin for MUSH it's from gammons website
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: Even if all the settings were at low, it still had trouble
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: I'm using zmud, and I created a script similar to that for my own
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: It's not as fancy as the one for mushclient though
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: yeah... i can't get it to install
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: keeps throwing an error
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what's the error?
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: yeah, luckily I'm within a few months of being eligible to upgrade and I've been with my cell carrier for 5 years, so they cut me some slack and gave me the good upgrade price and stuff :)
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: I used to have mush and I never got errors...and I had vista too
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: Line   17: Plugin "id" field must be unique for this world (problem in this file)
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: it says error loading and this is what the error window says
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: I want a computer that can run crysis...it probably won't ever come though...
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's already installed
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: hahaha lol thanks abe
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: the plugin_installer plugin must have installed it
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: without me realizing it
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: HHugo, install them in order, that is the Id error
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you go file -> plugins, there should be Consider_info listed about 2/3rds of the way down
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: yup it's there abe and it's working
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You snicker softly.
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: forgot about that plugin_installer that does it automatically :P
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: basically, every plugin has a random number to identify it...that lets MUSH know the difference between an install and a reinstall
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rude boy Hhugo rapidly nods twice to you, in complete agreement.
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you ever start with one plugin and copy/modify it to jumpstart writing something similar, you'll need to change that number
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: anyone know of a way I can reference item ids (parenthesized names) in a cmud script?
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use ~(
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: yeah, I tried that...it didn't work as an escape character.
T1/r5/2009-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: it's listed as the escape character in the settings, but doesn't seem to work in an alias/macro
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Are Intel CPU instruction sets completely backwards compatible?
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Err, not the question I was trying to ask, I think
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Does a Core 2 have all of the instructions that a Pentium 4 had?
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Can't say, but probably.
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: anyone know if its possible to reinstall adobe codecs without reinstalling everything?
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Sorry, what codecs does Adobe have, again?
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: doesn't have any afaik
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: according to gspot there is quite afew that seem to be missing from the premiere files
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they're not missing
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: premiere doesn't come with every codec on the planet
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: im trying to troubble shoot why my adobe products are flipping my videos upside down and that was one thing i came up with
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: perhaps you've got the australian version of premiere?
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Ouch :P
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: not again -.-
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: fing tigernuts >> Troll ?
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: whaa?
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Heh, never mind. :D
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: do other apps play them upside down?
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: no just anything adobe related
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: they are upside down on every player?
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: so premiere pro, after effects, media encoder
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: gen no i can play them on like windows media player just fine
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: contacted adobe support yet?
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: good thing about premiere being expensive is that their technical support is pretty decent
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: so they are upside down only when you play them on adobe products?
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: no i have not tiger
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: yes gen ... and it seems like im the only one with this problem there is really nothing to be seen on google ... i shall contact adobe then
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i had that problem before...it seems to be a problem on update of adobe shared files
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: did you just have an upgrade?
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i forgot if i upgraded my codecs or downgrade my abode products
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: not for any of these adobe products
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: were those application working before?
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i dono first time i fired them up ... i got the master collection so i have been busy with other programs
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: ahh priemiere might be using the wrong codec to render your files
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: thats what i gathered from the knowledge base gen
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i hope the have an interface now to change default settings for codecs.  i have trouble tinkering with it sometime ago
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: not that i know of
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: aw... that sucks, trying to edit video?
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: ya ... i knew i should have went with the macbook before i bought my windows labtop
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Heh. Whole other set of problems.
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: when i get my macbook its just going to be straight video/photo editing
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: in the muds spellup command, do "party" spells only cast when grouped?
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Palesnake Tech: how do i set up mush client to make sounds
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game -> configure -> output
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you're wanting it to play sounds on specific events, you'll need to create a trigger.
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Palesnake Tech: so like when i use a weapons i need to make a trigger to produce clashing sounds?
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it would need to know an "event" to make the sounds...it would need to know that you're fighting with the weapons, yeah
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Palesnake Tech: are there any sights that show me how to do triggers and maping  stuff like that?
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: www.mushclient.com
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Palesnake Tech: thanks
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaYne Tech: anyone here? :)
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaYne Tech: hee, i'd like to ask about SLR cameras, which is better, nikon or canon please?
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: how long is a piece of string?
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volans Tech: wow tough question
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volans Tech: depends on the model for sure
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volans Tech: there are a lot of good sites that compare them
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaYne Tech: nods. EOS MarkIII and the rest of the nikons?
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volans Tech: google a review of the mode you are interested in
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volans Tech: some sites will even do a side by side comparison for you
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaYne Tech: lol i did, and i am more confused. i am newbie to this 
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaYne Tech: how to choose the right one for me. i am trying to pick up photography
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dingaling Tech: dpreview
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volans Tech: gotta be honest, I think you will do fine with either
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volans Tech: that and a good photo studio, I love my PaintShop Pro XII
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaYne Tech: ok. which has better resale value ifi get bored and want to sell it off...
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volans Tech: find a shop that will let you return the camera, go with them so you could return it
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaYne Tech: lol u are psychic volans!
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volans Tech: chuckle
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaYne Tech: or should i start witha  G10?
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volans Tech: both great
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondy Tech: does a computer with a external power supply require less wattage to run?
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondy Tech: where is a good place to buy a decent computer for $1200?
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: dcs
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Tigerdirect?
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: pretty much anywhere
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Build your own.
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Be much cheaper in the end.
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: NewEgg.ocm
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: building yourself is rarely cheaper these days
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: $1200? you aiming high...
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondy Tech: thought about it but I'd rather buy a pre-built so I can send it back if it doesn't work
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chosig never spent more than $500 on a computer
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: Is this a gaming computer? 1200 is alot
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: (except that C64 that he bought for $1400)
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: my laaptob only cost 600 U.S.D.
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, once you add the OS and bundled software if you're gonna do it legally, basic commercial is about as cheap as building it yourself
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondy Tech: well I have a 7300le pci-e graphics card and it doesn't cut the mustard
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: labtop*
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: one more try Darkie :)
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondy Tech: so my options are to buy a new system or upgrade to a new card and I hear that anything under 8600 is just as bad as what I have
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: sounds a tad excessive to replace your whole pc for the sake of a gfx card
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chosig has a ATI 9600...
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if the rest of the system is OK, then just search around for the card
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: Ati radeon hd 4870, Has great price and performance
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try froogle.com
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: Or you can do HD 4850. Slightly weaker
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if you want cheap and cheerful get a geforce 9600gt
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romael Tech: im not too excited about geforce after my last one burnt out from a bad fan
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: cheap...meh...
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondy Tech: will that work in a pci slotted 7300le?
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: pci-e you mean
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondy Tech: pci-e 7300 le :>
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: is sitting in front of a Compaq CQ70 laptop he bought for about $550... works dandy
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nogs, pretty much any will work in pci-e
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondy Tech: pentium(R) D CPU 3 ghz
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: a $100 gfx card is a fair bit cheaper than a $1200 new pc
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondy Tech: really just wanting it to play sacred 2, warhammer and eventually diablo 3
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: Oh, those games don't need powerful GFX
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondy Tech: but not sure really what this card is
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondy Tech: pentium (r) D 3.0 ghz
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: buy a big-ish gfx card and you'll be fine
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondy Tech: it says it is a Intel Dual core processor is that decent for a few more years?
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondy Tech: ok I've pestered you enough but one more question... does it matter that it is 32 bit versus 64 bit? (only recognizes 3 gig of ram)
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not really
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: computer industry is being a bit shit about moving to 64bit so you've got some years left yet
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Can anyone tell me how to make a trigger for mush do a mathmatical function such as average or subtract?
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: are you happy with lua or scripting?
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: this express edition of visual studio c++ better be worth it: we're going on about an hour for install now, one restart, with more expected, and tons of cpu usage.
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's worth every penny
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romael Tech: you think that's bad....try installing the full visual studio suite
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romael Tech: took forever 
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: well, if my jaws scripts work well with it, I might actually try that.
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: o lol. from an iso?
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: or rather, the CD. the express has isos.
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: how much is that thing, anyway. yeah, I haven't started the MSDN libraries, either.
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romael Tech: i got it through my school so i wasn't paying for it, i'm not sure what retail is for it...prob way too overpriced
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: lol. the installer just failed on SQL.
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romael Tech: thats sad
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: now the libraries...
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: um, that's never a good sign, at all.
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: the entire computer has frozen, or did a sec ago, and the installer isn't up yet.
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romael Tech: uhoh
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: now, it's "extracting files". it took that long for the confirm run message thingie.
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romael Tech: those things atke up a lot of system resourcs...that happens sometimes 
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: as I said, it better be worth it, anhd my stupid scripts better work, or else.
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: last time, for there was a last time, they didn't, and I couldn't use it.
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: o btw, ever built a computer? i'm considering it.
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romael Tech: its a lot cheaper 
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romael Tech: i might for my next desktop
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: yeah. and you know how to fix it yourself, in the end. wikibooks made it sound easy, and there was a copy of the book for printing, so it's probably reliable.
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: the hard part seems to be getting the parts, not putting it together.
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romael Tech: the main thing i haven't done before is install the motherboard...rest of hardware installs are pretty simple
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: well, for you:)
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I'm blind rl.
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: can't read the manuals, the diagrams, etc.
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romael Tech: well that could be challening then
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: would have to call the individual companies, I think.
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romael Tech: buy the parts and get friend to help you put it together?
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: if you badger enough, you can sometimes get tech support that's actually supportive. lol.
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: most of the people I don't know don't even know how to wire a simple battery-lightbulb circuit.
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: um, do know.
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: it's done already!
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: an hour to install a package -- likely windows based -- reminiscent of the Win98se upgrade install horrors 
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: well, I've considered switching. I need to see if my laptop can boot from thumb drive, though, so i don't lose all my files.
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: then, comes the figuring out linux for the sighted, installing the reader, and restarting the learning process from my point of view.
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: o look! config for first time use!
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: just hope it doesn't become config for last time use.
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romael Tech: well i hope that works for u
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: we'll see, g2g. I'll try hello world.
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the hour long buggy install is likely deliberate, to discourage non-student users from multiple-re-install usages of the student product
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romael Tech: I didn't really have problems with the install....it was just a pain after waiting hours for the MS downloader and then the install after that
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: Hi! no one ever ever waste money on vc++ 2008.
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: it's crap, imho. too hard to use, and that's not because I'm blind.
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romael Tech: i thought you got the express one that you can just download?
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: and yes, i'm ranting. I've spent 2 hours on it--about the time it took me to write the beginnings of a tic tac toe game, and a complete basic text adventure game engine.
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: O, i did. but if the express version is this bad, the full version must be worse, knowing microsoft.
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I'll just manualy do the .rc files, instead of doing fansy no-overlap thingies, and pulling my hair out because the application hates me.
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: meet #pragma unmanaged and #pragma managed.
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romael Tech: i still haven't taken that programming class and yet this behemoth is still on my pc :p
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romael Tech: takes up entirely too much space
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: so you don't like it either?
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: are you a command-line compiler fan, then?
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romael Tech: i've taken a couple unix classes so far, but nothing that's on the visual studio suite
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: o, you should check out cl, rc, and the others.
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: there's one for c#, too. vc I think it was, haven't used c# in forever.
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romael Tech: i really like scripting in linux....so simple, but it does so much
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romael Tech: yea my friend took a c# class at the school im going to 
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: don't do c#, do c++.
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: it can do all c# can, and more. mixing of clr and unmanaged, though it's a bit harder.
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romael Tech: harder isn't really the issue....i'll either like it or not like it
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: what school, anyhow?
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: i need to choose a college, for computer stuff:) might want to start at the degree, actually.
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romael Tech: going for computer science mb?
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: yes, game programming in particular.
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romael Tech: you might want to go to a school that just specializes in that then 
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I have grand dreams, which include writing games for both the blind and sighted, bridging the social gap between the blind gamer and the sighted, converting my future home into a smart home, and a bunch of other stuff:)
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: i'm also interested in hacking, legally, though.
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: not illegally.
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romael Tech: well im not sure of others, but i assume digipen is still around
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: never heard of that one, though I'm just now getting into the research phase.
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romael Tech: digipen is in wash state
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: but some of your blind suggestions for changing the game suck (== increases te annoying tedium) -- you are sure to fail
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: that's far:), thanks xyliz.
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: the thing is, i don't really care what you think of my suggestions, as they're just that, suggestions.
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I have my opinion, you have yours. if I have an idea, I'm going to post it.
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: that i qsit at low level indicates i am used to tedium -- but some of the suggestions on the forums suck tediously
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romael Tech: idk i think that would be a bit hard to implement on a video game
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: which, one of my ideas, or the blind/sighted bridge for accessible user interfaces?
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romael Tech: the blind/sighted part 
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: actually, not as much.
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: we can locate sounds based on 3d position.
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: extra textual queues can be given. it's been done in fact.
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: quake did it. it crashed my computer, but there's a 3rd party patch to the game that allows it.
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romael Tech: thats pretty cool
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: 3d positioning is possible through analog stereo speakers -- but digital sound sucks at 3d positioning unless umpteen speakers are used
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: go get the demo of shades of doom, and tell me that headphones suck.
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: that game is awsum, and is one of the one's that'd probably work well for the sighted, if more than black and white, square and circle graphics, with no animation whatsoever were added.
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: full-fledged shooter.
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Camlorn, are you able to play a decent game of chess
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Anybody had any luck with MUSHclient under WINE on Linux? I have it running, and it looks great, but it is hilariously slow. Could be related to the abstruse connection via wireless remote desktop to a Linux VirtualBox guest... About five minutes just to enter this question.
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: arnica, im running on wine but not on a vm
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: GentooX I can guess what distro. Any issues?
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: none
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Never done it myself, but I've heard that if you're running it under wine, you want to run it with the -wine option enabled.
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: There's an entire thread on MUSH's forums on how to run it well under Wine.
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=4927
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: www for forum?
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: arnica  >> http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=4927
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Thanks. I'll research and try again.
T1/r6/2009-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tranceport Tech: anyone know any log parsers for aardmud that will give me dps of some attacks? Even an addon to mushclient would be good.
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: How to I make a "bell" sound in tt++?
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: nvm
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: any one familiar with SQL
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh, Google's image... in morse code
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Denthril Tech: Anyone online at the moment use the Aardwolf client?
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: sec...
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ok, am now? sup :P
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Denthril Tech: heh
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: dont know much about it.. but am using it :P
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Denthril Tech: Well, I just downloaded it and I'm trying to get my windows set up so I have them in comfortable spot. My stats window did something wonky and now I can't get to the toolbar to click-drag it around.
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Denthril Tech: wondering if you new of a way I could reset it to the center of the screen or something or if I have to uninstall/reinstall the whole thing
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: doh,,, i heard the answer to that before i know...
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: cabt remember for the life of me though
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: we need a FAQ on the wiki :P
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Denthril Tech: rofl. nbd, just have to tinker with it I guess. >.<
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Denthril Tech: YEssir, that you do..
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Denthril Tech: Hrm.. guess I'll check the read me. Hate searching through all of that, but maybe something is in there
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: well.. when you figure it out.. add it :P
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Denthril Tech: Hehe.. Guess I'll have too :P
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Denthril Tech: HUZZAH
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Denthril Tech: I got it. :D
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Denthril Tech: anyone know how to change text size on the aardwolf client by chance?
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: Mushclient - game/configure/output will change active world (window)
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Denthril Tech: Thanks myopic
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Windows 7 just keeps getting better: "Windows 7 wants to be your trusted upgrade from Windows XPso much so that the Redmond giant will offer a virtualized "Windows XP Mode" in Windows 7 Professional and Ultimate editions when they drop. What's XP mode? According to Windows watcher Paul Thurrott, it's a licensed, virtualized copy of Windows XP Service Pack 3 running inside Microsoft's own Virtual PC framework, customized and framed to allow anyone who needs a picky XP application to run to simply install it while XP Mode is enabled, then have it run as a virtualized app in the future without thinking about it. It is, in a way, a 100% compatibility promise, but it remains to be seen how smoothly Virtual PC can be integrated into Windows 7 itself."
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Oo... this is nice... PackageFactory Converts any Windows Program to Run on a U3 Drive (Windows)
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I still don't get the idea behind U3. :S
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: u3 allows programs to run directly from a memory card (even programs that need to write back to save files, etc)
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: u3 ?
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: try portable apps
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: How is that different from, say, any other filesystem on a memory card?
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: free
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: filesystems are different than programs that run under an operating system (and where they are stored/ran from)
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I was under the impression that U3 was some sort of filesystem.
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Ageha: So is PackagedFactory, and it apparently packages any .exe program.
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: So it's a tiny operating system?
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: http://portableapps.com/ liek u3 but free and not terrible
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: ageha, i used several u3 programs when i was in college. i like u3, and never had any issues with the free apps they offered
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: i liek protable break gets me through boring days
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: u3 is oddly over sized
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: is there a good way to achieve keypad walking in tt++?
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: need help here
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: got a problem with windows vista
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: who hasn't
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: i dont
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: moved my mushclient and script from xp to vista now i cant find my script with mushclient
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: are you running your mushclient as admin?
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: i guess so
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: haha then its a no
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: close out your mush client, then go back to the .exe file
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: right click on it and select 'run as administrator
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: then try looking for the script again
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: run as administrator on the script?
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: or the already installed muchclient file
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: try both
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: k
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: mushclient first tho 
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: still cant find it
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: can you find it if you look for it in file browser?
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: no
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: yes i can se it when i go into the installed mushclient file but when i open mushclient and search for the script i cannot find it
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make sure you're in the right file path...
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: huff.. this seems to be hard
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: zax, is this a startup script you're trying to add, or a plugin?
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: startup script i use it on my mushclient on windows xp
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I think you need to describe exactly what you have done, exactly where you have installed things, and exactly why you think mush can't see the script
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: i cannot se the worlds map either
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: probably in doing that, you will work out the error
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what language is the startup script written in?
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: english
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: english isn't a computer language...
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: installed it in the writing board. first page.
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what is the file extension of the script?
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (the "dot stuff")
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: i dont understand what you mean with dot stuff
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not sure what you mean by writing board
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: the first page when you log into the computer
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: think it's c:
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'll want it to be in a directory with other MUSHclient stuff, not just sitting anywhere on its own
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: nod i placed it in scripts in mushclient
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: but it should be in worlds in think
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what's the name of the script, including everything after the period?
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: but i cannot find the map worlds when i go into the directory
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: complete name is "aardmud2
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: complete name is "aardmud2"
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try looking at its properties...vista is hiding its full name...
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: okay
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm not sure where to change Vista to not hide file extensions...in XP you go to tools -> folder options, to the view tab
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to see the extension while extensions are hidden, you can look at properties, then click the "Change" button, and the real filename is listed at the top (and you can hit cancel to not change anything)
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the reason I ask is that when you go to tell MUSHclient to browse to a script, it's looking ONLY at files that end in the file extension for the scripting language that is selected at the top drop-down of game -> configuration -> scripts
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can change it to look at all files, but I don't think a script of a different language works...only way to use different languages in MUSH is to use plugins, I believe
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: im in tools now
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: what do you mean with folder options
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you're just in windows, looking at a folder, and you go to the tools menu, is a menu item "Folder Options"?
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: i have an alias for Sigul of illoria that follows as such: remove second/n get illoria demon/n wear illoria/n enter/n dual @dualed. but it keeps giving me the 'Alas you cannot go that way' message after i enter. Is there any way in mush to show what the commands are so i can see what is causing the eroor?
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: error*
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: use second instead of dual :P?
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL boggles at the concept.
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: @dualed is just the variable, second is to remove the dualed weapon, that wouldn't give me a error for travel...
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: second as in second ual
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: second as in second dual
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: anyway
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: darkknowing, instead of send to world, send to notepad
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: thank you
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: I had a blank line in there, would that cause it?
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just blank line, no
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: I deleted the line and it is still doing it, and i cant seem to find any other issues, and i looked to see if another alias was messing up and nothing.
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: It still works but its just a little annoying
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you copy whatever showed in notepad and paste to command line, what happens?
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: i figured it out, i had an alias for illoria already that was a runto
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, that'd do it
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: C:\Program Files (x86)\MUSHclient\lua\getworld.lua:30: Function 'io.open' disabled in Lua sandbox - see MUSHclient global preferences
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: how do I do that?
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: go to global preferences...
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: ok
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and enable it
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: file->global preferences
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: hmm
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: is it under a certain tab?
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: lua
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: lua tab
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: lua tab -> edit -> select all -> cut -> paste somewhere else. save the blank -> try again -> if successful paste back
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: im just trying to make the spellups plugin window show up, now it says that the loading of DLLs by this plugin is disabled, do I wanna enable it and if so how?
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: tamariel lua tab -> edit -> select all -> cut -> paste somewhere else. save the blank -> try spellup plugin again -> if successful paste back
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: oh! u want me to clear the whole lua stuff in that window and try it blank! is that something new?
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: thats the way i did it
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: wtf
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: what happened?
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: it gave me the error in my map window
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: then you loaded it as a plugin to your map window
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: what error?  you need to create a new world called spellups with setting just like the map window
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: it keeps saying something about the .MCL file
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: yup i encountered that too.  make a new world the one i described above
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: could you be a dear and teach me how to create a new world please
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: wow that was a fail
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: trying to create a new world again any tips?
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: file-new world-default from existing world -> <mushclient install path>\worlds\aardwolf\chats.mcl and name it spellups
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: chats is ok to use?
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: I had used aardwolf before and had to reload the whole program
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i think you should try it before asking questions like that :(
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: didnt mean to offend!
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: but it worked I think!
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: type spellup all
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yathtallar Tamariel hugs GentooX.
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: hmm at level 201...
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: spellup help
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fauztin Tech: is there a way to stop the error message when it cant save the world on mush? it keeps popping up ever few while.
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: ack! how do I change the font size!
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: On your client... check preferences?
T1/r6/2009-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: Tamariel game->configure->output
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Is there any way to configure tf so text wraps at less than 80 chars?
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/72/image1s.png
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Those bars are too cool, how?
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Are those images?
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: medeiva font in status win... character is: [
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: shows as full block
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: couldnt resist having something like the mush aard client :P
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: spammy... but here is a SMALL section of one of the bars...
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: %if( @hp_current_percent>99, %ansi( high, red)[[[[[[[[[[[[[%ansi( high, yellow)[[[[[[[[[%ansi( high, green)[[[[[[[[[, %if( @hp_current_percent>96, %ansi( high, red)[[[[[[[[[[[[[%ansi( high, yellow)[[[[[[[[[%ansi( high, green)[[[[[[[[, %if( @hp_current_percent>93, %ansi( high, red)[[[[[[[[[[[[[%ansi( high, yellow)[[[[[[[[[%ansi( high, green)[[[[[[[, %if( @hp_current_percent>90,
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Pastebin? :P
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: extropolate that all the way to 1% current hp
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: sure.. sec...
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: http://pastebin.com/d3d607a5a
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Thanks Ozzy :)
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: does NOT import well... paste into zmud status window settings directly
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i grab the info from the {stats} tag
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Just so there wouldn't be too much spam :P
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: that is crappy coding
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: show me a better way :P
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: STWIN forces crappy coding. I promise.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: mush client ?
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: zmud
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: status window can only show basically text and vars... so the bars are one huge nested %if
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: something like that may require a better script language, but zmud is no longer being upgraded
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i can do it in perl i suppose...
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: CMUD still has the same mess... But I think you can call functions from the status window now.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: same
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: So you can clean it up a bit with a bunch of functions that do the nested if statements for you. lol
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: well, the var results of functions
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: it is quite readable to me :P
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Of course, that may actually slow things down... But it'll look the code prettier.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i opt for speed
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: I had coded bars like that before in mine Ozzy, with the same nested if mess. But I used just regular ######s.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: only moved my CTRL-Q results from 10.3 to 10.5
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that's the way it started... #####... but i was already using medeiva font for the lines
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Any reason you're not going for the integrated bars, Ozzy? Just a preference of style?
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: the #GAUGE? i got(had) those too... just saw the mushclient plugin for aard... and i like scripting :P
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Nods, so style then. And boredom. Hehe.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: gonna turn my #GAUGE db meter into a graphical clock in status window next
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: dbl meter that is
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: I had my quest timer on a graphical ascii clock for a little bit... Overkill though.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: And rather slow. :P
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: And I've moved away from the status window, changed all outputs to separate windows that only output on variable change. :)
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: why yould you time "Quest Complete: 21s"
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: No, time till next quest. Not the time it took to complete...
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ahhh
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i use #MXP IMG to annoy me with a huge banner on 0 only
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: My global quest alert trigger is a bunch of #MESSAGE spam... Haha. :D
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: http://pastebin.com/m1ece16b6
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Also, any reason you're on zMUD rather than CMUD? Local variables are a godsend speedwise.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: 4000 errors on import
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: litterally
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: he fixed all the "bugs" i have grown to know as features :P
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Ahhh... Well... I never tried a direct import. I broke my scripts up into modules/packages and recoded from there. And I had a lot XD
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: my "scripts" dir is 18meg
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: lol, that's bigger than aard.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: a ton of it is mapper "auto re-map" stuff
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Does that count your own personal copy of iwuvaard's db in there? lol
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i use iwuv directly... conradshome.com/iwuvzmud
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Yeah, I'm just learning the mapper myself... It's difficult making sure it's synced up correctly.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: conradshome.com/zmudmap
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Nods, I'm well aware of that script, I'm trying to expand on the concept and allow the ability to update a database too :)
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: need write acces and it would be EASED
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: what char owns iwuv anyways?
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Nods, that's what I figure. I still need to comb what you've done and fully comprehend it before I can do that. :P
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: I forget... I tried to contact them but they only had rights to the server, the data was managed by a bunch of other people.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: the dbl gauge should be easy... #MXP IMG=@dbl_left~.png
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Do you keep a database yourself Ozzy?
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nod
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: What do you use? sqlite?
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i keep it on the TV in the livingroom :P
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: MySQL
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Nods
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: already there for MythTV
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Haha, you store it on a separate server? That's hilarious.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: seems local.. gigabit in the house
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Oh, hey, this summer, building a MythTV box (mine just died). Any recommendations on what to purchase?
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: a computer? ;)
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Parts-wise. My current setup is this god awful Frankenstein of a machine pulled together from computers between 2 and 5 years old... The thing is about toast.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: im using an Asus MB with hdmi, 2 pvr150's thru stb's, a pvr-500 straight to cable, and firewire to another stb
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: mb is m3n78pro
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Recommendations on memory, CPU?
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i got 4gig ocz and amd 45w X2
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: hard drives are 2 1tb wd green caviar
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: one for recordings, other for the rest
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: for recordings... Total Disk Space:    * Total Space: 857,396 MB    * Space Used: 516,651 MB    * Space Free: 340,744 MB
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: CPU Core 0 Temperature: +29.0 CPU Core 1 Temperature: +28.0
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: I've got about 4 or 5 externals chained up to the old Frankenstein... Adds up to somewhere like 3.5-4TB of filled movies/TV shows/anime/whatever.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: And about 2TB free, which I wanted to use for recordings but the PVR-1600 card wasn't kind to linux.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Encoder 1 is local on tv and is not recording. Encoder 2 is local on tv and is not recording. Encoder 3 is local on tv and is not recording. Encoder 4 is local on tv and is not recording. Encoder 5 is local on tv and is not recording.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i love mythweb :P
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i still aint moved to HD anything on cable, so
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: the pvr150,250,350,500 work well still
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: firewire capture is working flawlessly for SD atm though, dont see any reason it wouldnt for HD
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Charter doesnt encrypt anything you pay for here so that's nice
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: I'll have to look into how Charter treats us out here... Hehe
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: just go into the service menu on your STB while tuned to something like HBO... it will show if clear or 5C
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Nods, nice :)
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: used the streamzap usb for the wife, she loves it
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: and i put in the frontpanel lcd from crystalfontz
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: my remote is a nintendo DS :P
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: http://www.ndshb.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=128
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: MythRemote v0.1.1 created by GrizzlyAdams
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: theres the authors page... http://grizzly.thewaffleiron.net/mythremote/
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: frontend in the kids room is an old xbox usually using xbox media center, sometimes linux and mythfrontend
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Jeez man, quite a setup. I can only aspire to get to that level. Haha
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: I would need a long break of unemployment to manage all that. :o
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i wanna integrate our cctv setup into it soon
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: That's something else I was going to work on, adding security to the house and putting it on a wireless CCTV system that goes back to the media center. :D
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: looked at zoneminder... but only briefly
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: If I did that I'd have to stop renting the house though, and buy it. XD
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i went with hardwired cams... dont trust wireless, i mean i can look into several rooms of neighbors who have them :P
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Ah, good point, hadn't really considered that...
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: gotta love free porn on occasion :P
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Hahaha... Jeez...
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: yea, go wired :P
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: 4 of our yard cams are wireless... but in house is ALL wired
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: I was really only considering yard cams, nothing indoors. XD
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: we have 6 inside on motion sensors, nice to look in on vacations
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: hardest part of tech in the home is making it compatible with Wife 2.0, dont wanna have to install Wife 3.0 :P
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: just installed cmud 3, after import from zmud this time, cmud just keeps crashing... not willing to start over :P
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: zmud rarely fails to reconnect
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: mis
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oaz Tech: Anyone here play Starcraft?
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: YES!!!
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oaz Tech: ok I wanna play but I dont own the originals where can I get a keygen for broodwar and original?
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oaz Tech: and we can play each other over the net or no?
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oaz Tech: Arget?
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: we can play each other
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oaz Tech: Dude its not illegal I owned the originals I lost the cds...you can more then do that if u owned the originals...
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: but i don't know where to get a keygen
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oaz Tech: ok how can we play over the net, I cant do battlenet...what other ways
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oaz Tech: ok how can we play over the net, I cant do battlenet...what other ways
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: just remembered... whoever asked about my double gauge... http://pastebin.com/m4e592ad7
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Double Remaining: 6m50s.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: how do i put multiple commands in an alias?
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Separate them with a command stack. You can't do it MUDside, though. Has to be done clientside.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: yeah, i don't think it's possible mud-side
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: "c:\$MFT is corrupt and unreadable" <-- aside from tossing drive any suggestions?
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: file table could be on a bad block
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ran memtest and your drive mfg's test util?
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: the manufacturer's diagnostic gave it all passes
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: can't recall if i tried memtest
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: but i will probably just throw it to slave if the data's corrupt it'm my new stray dog ammo
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: run memtest to be sure... then copy all important stuff from it (try not to write anything else), then format and reinstall
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: new and improved status window "gauges"... tech http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/8741/image1mwi.png
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: and the godawful looking code: http://pastebin.com/m5cfc5736
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Ok, in mush i have a trigger capturing rname, and saving to a variable. I have two questions on this. 1)How do i recall that variable into an already used aliads. and 2) How do i set up a IF function is mush so that if rname=![specified name] then {this function occurs}?
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hmm. i'd like to try that script out but the page seems to fail at utf-8
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: god i hate the PC industry for training consumers to call HD space "memory"
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: HD space is not memory...
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Wow. :\
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: does anyone know whether the alsa oss emulation mode, 'aoss,' takes up more CPU time or otherwise takes up more resources than normal alsa?  I've been trying to find some information online about this but there doesn't seem to be any good information pertaining to my question
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: use pulseaudio
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Anyone use the #prompt feature of tintin++?
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it's what I think it is, skip it and have your aard prompt end in %c
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ask Cartman when he's around, he's the resident tt++ guru
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I see. Thanks guys :)
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: What it actually does is it's a trigger to display certain text. I'm using it as a tell counter, but I'm not sure how to clear the last tell.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just clear the variable?
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Probably gonna do something like that.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: #PROMPT is more of a #SUB
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: see this, show this, but at this row #
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yeah, something like that.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I said trigger, but obviously #subs look out for strings to replace too :P It was the first thing that came to mind.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: so what is the #PROMPT line in question?
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: #prompt {^%0 just sent you a tell.} {Tell: %0} {-1}
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: and you wanna clear it?
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Hmm... it went into my trigger. Looks like the ^ anchor isn't done right.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: anchor at the end with ^ or $ if newer tt++
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: using 1.9.3?
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Is there any way to make sure the anchor only gets one word?
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: anchor doesn't get any words
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you have pretitles turned on or off?
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Because I have {^%0 just sent you a ...} and it's grabbing the whole string before "just sent you a tell" as the %0.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if off, you want the %0 to be limited to just 1 word, if on, you can't limit as much
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: %0 in tt is like * abe
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yeah, it's stretchy. :P
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, glob * and not regexp * ;-)
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Unfortunately :P
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tru, in the tell: part, should it still be %0, or should it then be %1?
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: cant you use %w?
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: It would be %0 because I want to display the same name. %1 would look for a second variable which I didn't capture in the input.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Ozzy: I don't know about that. I'll look into it.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: http://tintin.sourceforge.net/manual/action.php
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: and %0 in tt = %1 in like zmud Abe
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Where did you find %w, Ozzy?
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Oh right. Let me see.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: http://tintin.sourceforge.net/manual/action.php  .... %w match zero to any number of letters.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: %w will only work fully if pretitles are turned off
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i hate pretitles :P
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: NOPRETITLE   See pretitles on players                        NO 
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: OK, I'll try that again. Seems like the inbuilt helpfiles < web manuals.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Or I'm not looking in the right places.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Thanks, though :)
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: try #prompt {^{%w|%w %w} just sent you a tell.$} {Tell: %0} {-1}
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Or turn tells tags on, and use that.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Mobs don't return telltags.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: bah, i already had a FULL @NPC_list :P
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Interestingly, #echo [28 Apr 17:26:52] Ozzy Tech: try #prompt {^{%w|%w %w} takes the first word while #echo {[28 Apr 17:26:52] Ozzy Tech: try #prompt {^{%w|%w %w}} shows the whole string.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Well, well.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I'd have thought that disaster would happen.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Shoulda changed vars :P
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Trurien: Use tell tags. Save yourself the trouble.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I am testing them.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Then all you need is ^{tell} and you'll be good.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: No need to guess and check and set up anything more than that.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i dunno what the delimiter is in tt... but for zmud youd need ~ before { and }
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods at Ozzy.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You may also be able to sub out the {tell} bit so it comes across as normal, too.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: and it aint ~ as im in tt now doing ~ without anything special :P
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: #prompt {^{tell}%0 just sent you a tell.$} {Tell: %0} {-1}
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: erm...
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: #prompt {^\{tell\}%0 just sent you a tell.$} {Tell: %0} {-1}
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: \ is it :P
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: trurien what are your #SPLIT settings?
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Thanks for helping, guys.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: ok, this is random, and I'm not actually expecting an answer, but anyone got experience using metalworking mills?
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I'm talking CNC or manual, either's fine.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: depends :)
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: sorry, was writing a note.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: depends on what?
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: what you need :)
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I'm in the market for one, and am blind. I intent d to learn to operate one without assistance.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: but the internet doesn't have much info. I'm trying to find out if there's one which will accept a tactile pattern, such as a cardboard cutout, or one with controls that move the heads in fixed increments.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: so, I could use cutouts, or basic arithmetic.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: make sense?
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: well, there are such cnc but it's rare. too hazardous  :)
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: move what heads
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: as I said.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I have little knowledge, am I confusing them with lathes?
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: hmmm, wait, the mills move the table, no?
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: using basic arithmetic is what a CNC machine is
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: except that you use a CAD program.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: or a complex, esoteric file format.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not necessarily
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can use control panel on the machine
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: i'd be happy with four arrow keys.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: and an enter button.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: press up for up, etc. one click, one millimeter.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: from your perspective, issue with such a setup would likely be feedback, though
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: that's quite alot :D
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: if that's the case.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I can stop the head, and feel it gently. that's not the problem.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hehe, I want a 6" wide thing....that's a lotta clicks at 1mm per;-)
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: only 150 :)
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: the problem is any visual output on a display, unless rerouted to an IC for speech generation, would be impossible. and I'd not mind. I'm already racking my brain to modify welding and souldering, as well as brazing.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I've taken a recent interest in building robots.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: try a lego mindstorm, they're great toys
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: lol, I have a set.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I sort of moved beyond them.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I've got half the parts, the most expensive half, for a hovercraft, actually.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: blind guy playing with scalding hot steam, searing hot flames, whirling sharp blades ...what next: deadly chemicals, explosives, radioactive chemicals,
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: small, styrofoam, resen.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: ...xyl.... stfu
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: o, I'm already figuring out if I could build that steam engine, and the answer is yes. I just have to buy the alcohol.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: ah, hovercraft -- next
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: ah, hovercraft -- next: blind guy flying an aeroplane
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: oopse, spelling isn't my place tonight. I'm also playing with high-voltage electronics btw. bought an RC plane battery.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: lol. funny you should mention that...
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: there's a guy who teaches that to blind people.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: he's blind himself. planes are easier than cars, not much to hit.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: flying the plane np, landing the plane may be
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: let me put it this way: I have no set limits. I will try it until it becomes blatently obvious that I can not. I've actually done my homework, and I think metalworking and robot construction can be done with a minimum of assistance.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: with an aeroplane, there is plenty to hit
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: like...air...lol.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: oooo, or other planes. well, they can just get out of my way!
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: anyhow back to the CNC mill...anyone got thoughts?
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: like like other planes, buildings, sides of mountains
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: o, forget it. the I can do anything idea seems lost.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not lost, just unrealistic...without custom making the tools to custom make things, that is
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: well. no, not that either.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I have every reason to believe that I could learn to use a mill.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, you absolutely can
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I just don't know enough about them to determine what I need to look for.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but it's unrealistic to believe that you'll self-teach yourself to run a mill without assistance
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I don't.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: once taught, running it w/o assistance would be possible...learning it without assistance is not
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: the learning part isn't where I have trouble with help. I just don't want to have to find a sighted person to do it every time.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: o btw.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: the person who'd teach me, does he/she have to know how first? that's where we run into a problem.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd likely need a sighted person every time for a year or more
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: running a lathe without sight is going to be dangerous
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: nonsense, nonsense. if the sighted can self teach, I need only learn enough to self-teach myself.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You pat Camlorn on his head.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: Let me put it this way: I can, for a price, have the manual brailled.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the sighted can see the pointy/hot/sharp thing
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PongMaster Tech: running any machine without sight is dangerous
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you need to recognize it without anything other than muscle memory
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: hot thing?
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: what hot thing, I didn't know it had something hot? ah well, there's gloves, and a determined blind person wearing them.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the sighted see the blur of rapidly spinning wood
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, hot, sharp, and pointy are all things you'll find in metalwork
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: but not on the mill.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I'm not worried about any of them, though.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: even in there
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have someone just run a sawz-all for about 5 minutes on metal...then touch the blade...yes, hot thing
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I've even given thought to brazing, and think I have a way to do that.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PongMaster Tech: you've also gotta be wary of chips flying all over the place
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PongMaster Tech: making the proper depth of cuts, seeing flaws in your stock
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PongMaster Tech: and adjusting based on how you see your machine reacting to the type of cut you're taking
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: meet vibrations.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: sound.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: you'd be surprised. I can tell you if a TV is on from across the room, even on a channel producing only black and no sound.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Honestly, Abelinc waits for the news article about the shop accident
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PongMaster Tech: umm, that's pretty common though
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: good for you. keep waiting.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the sighted see the almost invisible flame of brazing flames
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PongMaster Tech: lol, i'm just throwing ideas out there so you know what to expect
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, for a CRT, I can tell if a TV is on from anywhere in the house, if the volume is muted
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I'm just saying. feeling the vibrations of the machine won't be too hard. it's not things like that that worry me; it's buying a machine that I'd be unable to control. I know what to expect.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's an annoying high-pitch squeal
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: a misused oxy-acetlyne torch flame is not very forgiving
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PongMaster Tech: have you ever gone through machine shop training?
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: and that's not as common as you'd think. no one else in the family, besides my younger brother (also blind), can do it.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: nope. still in high school.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: knowing how thick a piece of metal is from sound is a different trick entirely
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: i'm more the programming type, who thinks building robots would be an interesting hobby.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what is your iq
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for the programming type, go for CAD-based stuff
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PongMaster Tech: hs... long way to go buddy :P and consider how expensive machining equipment is
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PongMaster Tech: how is CAD programming?
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: except, that's coordinate based fun. I've posted on a robotics forum, we'll see what comes back from here.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Or lego robots.  Programming those can be fun
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: o, it is, in a way. the files are saved in a text format.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: the lego robots were to restrictive. no flying, no boats. nothing faster than about a mile per hours.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: are you able to 'visualise' an accurate 3d image based on tactile data
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pong, cad info fed into CNC is programming the machine to cut the materials
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: and once the 2000 or so parts I have got unsorted...well...I gave up on sorting them again.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I can, yes.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: to an extent. much beyond a simple rectangular prism, and we run into problems.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I programmed a lego robot to eavesdrop on you dialing a phone, and it telling me what number you dialed by listening to the tones from the phone :P
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PongMaster Tech: right, must've misunderstood when cam talked about being the programming type, figured he actually meant usage of logic and languages and stuff
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: good, good. the new NXT can do that, but, it can't do much stuff because of structural limitations. I want actual robots, not toys, and I intend to get them. and yes, this is from my college professor...
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: The primary problem with your code involves data overflow in the strings. The "gets" function does not restrict user input to stay short enough to prevent overflowing the array beyond its size. Also, the conditions that you specify in the while loops that you wrote to do the conversion to lowercase are wrong because they try to test character values instead of Boolean values. While statements must base their tests on true or false results, not characters such 
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: he's making us learn c strings.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: the final is tomorrow, and I need that resubmitted ASAP. lol. I so should not be here talking about metalworking.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: but guess what! I am:)
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: either way, thanks for the input. I'll be getting more information from the post any time now, and will go from there. o, and your names will be remembered:)
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: as people to ask. muhahahahaha! g2g now, unfortunately.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: #while loops are dangerous in old Zmud -- are thay dangerous in Cmud
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: #while loops are dangerous when a mud client is distracted and forgets to do things that are required to exit the while loop
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: back. man, I hate cstrings.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: c strings, pascal strings
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: fp numbers are 'worse' than c strings
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: what's bad about pascal strings?
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: isn't that a string-handling language?
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: thing is about the course, though, c/c++ compilers are all too common, and c++ strings are easy and simple.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: its limited to 255?
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: oooo, someone should try purebasic's version of the windows interface. it makes the windows api look easy.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what is wrong with c strings
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: they're soooo hard.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: not using them, really. but getting substrings, especially working backwards  from the end.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: that c strings are null delimited ?
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: no.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: they're arrayw.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arc Tech: h
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: arrays. no end-to beginning stuff, no reversal functions. no substring retrieval.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: c++ strings, no problem, do <str>.substr(beginning,length);.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arc Tech: write your own and reuse it over and over?
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: why bother. that's the point.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: arrays of c strings are ptrs to the actual string
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: c++ has it done, but we ahave to use strict ansi c. no, I mean that they're stored and exposed that way.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arc Tech: your class teaches c++ as if it's a c extension...?
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: no.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arc Tech: oh ok good :p
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: but, it is, actually. all ansi c runs under it. they don't teach it. I had to drop c++ to pass the course.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: C++ is able to be a nightmare with overloading
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I hated that. I have a serious problem with no oop.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arc Tech: it's not an extension just because it let's you use c style stuff
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arc Tech: if anything trying to use it that way is poor practice
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I don't. but it doesn't let you use c style stuff.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: it is ansi c, with a second programming language thrown in. you can interchange them in the same program, and it compiles just as easily.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: is C++ able to code *fast* clean code , or is C++ a cpu cycle thrashing language
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: badly coded use of C++ constructors destructors is able to waste lots of cpu cycles and cause bloat  
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: true enough.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: but some of the cool tricks with C++ are amazing
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arc is agreeing with that Xyliz person again...
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: anybody know where i can locate a quest script for zmud?
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon peers intently at Ira Deorum Velian.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dustin looks around and whistles innocently.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dustin shoos Ira Deorum Velian away!!
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: i miss something?
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Umm... "help botting"?
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: not that kind of script
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: a tracking script
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: lol
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: to track quest stats over time
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: i don't need help locating quest mobs
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustin Tech: try yoshi/ninja/artre?
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: u know any of their sites?  atreidess site is no longer up.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustin Tech: i dont know how to use triggers.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustin Tech: Dont know the sites.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Try the finger command?
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: did already
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL ruffles Apprentice Oladon's hair playfully.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustin Tech: ask them.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: not online lol.  i will later on though for sure
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: http://tinyurl.com/ctskq8
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: whats a quest tracker do?
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: keeps track of stats
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: tracks quests completed/qp earned/bonuses earned over time and computes averages.  also reports to channel of choice
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how many, how long they took, rewards
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: there is one out there right?
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oaz Tech: Ok I haVe starcraft and broodwar installed who wants 2 get pwned?
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oaz Tech: Ok I haVe starcraft and broodwar installed who wants 2 get pwned?
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: qreporter no?
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: GentooX, do you use a laptop?
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oaz Tech: ok guess no ones down for my SC laterz
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i do
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Do you have Gentoo on your laptop?
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i do
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Do you have all the ACPI stuff?
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: no
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik sighs.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I want to change the function of my power button on my HP laptop, but I haven't managed to do it yet
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: on gentoo?
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik nods.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: havent tried those...
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: What about backlight dimming?
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I can't get that to work either in Gentoo :(
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i dont enable it in my kernel
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: never did...
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: but there is a power management guide
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: hmmm ACPI is still a work in progress
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I did look at that
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: ima try it one of these days. on a spare machine
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Do you not unplug your laptop? :p
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: batteries dead
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: run on pure AC now
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik nods.
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: does this look right to you?
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: SendNoEcho ("look")
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: SendNoEcho ("look") SendNoEcho ("consider all")
T1/r6/2009-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus smells a bot in the making.
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: anyone good with port forwarding?
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Trying to unblock listening port?
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: try portforward.com, has lots of info
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: yeah, just trying to forward a port
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: i have. doesn't work for me.
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Same here, are you on a laptop?
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: yep. any solutions?
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Connect to modem cable
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: my laptop won't connect if its wired
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: been trying to figure that one out too
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: I have the same issue, thats why i gave up on torrents *inno*
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kaof (
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Is yours a compaq also?
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: oh no mine's a toshiba. i don't think its anything hardware specific
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: so if i get the wired connection to work somehow, it will port forward correctly?
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: I believe so, but i would ask a more technologically adept person than me, for a second opinion
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: So
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: what does this mean
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk272/joshfregozo/Untitled.jpg
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: And why won't it stop =(
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: have you fiddled with refresh rates?
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Fiddled with what?
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: your monitor settings
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: I don't think so
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: It's gone now, went into standby then came back
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: But still, that was scary
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chosig nods.
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: something to do with the graphics card, either a setting, heat or it's starting to fall apart
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: It's a new laptop
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: maybe heat then... you having it in your lap?
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Yeah
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: It's not hot though
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustin Tech: in your lap with the covers under it?
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Nope, just on my lap
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Also, I may or may not be naked.
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: i know I am
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustin Tech: that's the problem inicus
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Stick it Inicus spanks Felt playfully.
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustin Tech: got to be neked.
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: any linux mud clients run lua for scripts?
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Anyone use screen a lot?
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I've noticed split screens don't save across resumes. Is there some way to fix that?
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's doing my head in
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why is expressions insisting on putting a grey border between two div elements when there isn't a gap there?
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: meh, found the issue - the code and the style library didn't match, how bloody stupid of it
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Real Heafmo Tech: what warrants a complete uninstall of mushclient?
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: hmm, when you stop mudding?
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Real Heafmo Tech: i've been trying to get the client from aardwolfs webpage with all the plugins working on my new pc. It doesn't seem to want to know, i've uninstalled and installed numerous times, I'm wondering if there's something I need to do that I'm not.
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DagasWolf Tech: how do you get the windows command promt out of full screen mode?
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: alt-enter
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: alt enter
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DagasWolf Tech: thanks
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DagasWolf Tech: how do you get the stuff that i type to show up in telnet?
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}It's Big Rampagne Tech: anyone know how to get rid of the stats tag underneath my prompt?
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: i think its just type statmon or something
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}It's Big Rampagne Tech: i was using aard mush client for a sec and then came back onto zmud
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}It's Big Rampagne Tech: yup that was it
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romael Tech: i did that.....it was a pain in the *** to change all the tags back
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}It's Big Rampagne Tech: yea i have no clue what tags i need on or off
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you don't use tags, just type "tags off"
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romael Tech: thats the easiest solution
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romael Tech: main use is for triggers or stuff
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: any script that uses tags should ensure that the specific tags it requires are on
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}It's Big Rampagne Tech: how come in mush client when the statmon tags are on they do not display but when i come back to zmud they do display
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: #TRIG {^~{stats~}} {#GAG}
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rampagne, tags are there for scripts to use, not for humans to see...scripts that use them hide them from the humans
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}It's Big Rampagne Tech: ah
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so when you use MUSH, the first thing those scripts do is turn all the tags they want back on...then they hide the tags themselves from you so you don't realize they're on...but they still form the basis for all the gauges, chat windows, etc that you see
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: or... #TRIGGER {^~{stats~}(%d)/(%d),(%d)/(%d),(%d)/(%d),(%d)/(%d),(%d)/(%d),(%d)/(%d),(%d),(%d),(%d),(%d),(%d),(*),(%d),(%d)/(%d),(%d)/(%d),(%d)/(%d),(%d),(%d),(%d),(%n),(%d),(%d),(%d)$} {#GAG -1;use the other vars here}
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}It's Big Rampagne Tech: good stuff
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}It's Big Rampagne Tech: thanks for the help
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You snicker with him about your shared secret.
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: help statmon to see what they are
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you download fiendish's stats gauge script for zmud, it'll hide the statmon tag for you :-)
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd recommend NOT terminating it in $
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: can do something like: http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/8741/image1mwi.png with the stats line
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: why not Abe?
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: statmon was designed to be expandable, terminating in $ will mean that anything new added to it will break the trigger
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: at least youll know something was added :)
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i wish everything avail in help prompt was in stats
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, it'd be great to get rid of prompt altogether
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nodnodnod
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Anyone know what a .gp file is?
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avandore Tech: google says The .GP extension identifies a file containing Geoworks Glue Geode Parameter information..
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Yeah?.. you know what that means?
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avandore Tech: no idea. and the companies site is down
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: anyone know what the size of an IP header is? in bytes?
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klugefoo Tech: tcp?
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Escapes me, I learned it last year.
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: 20?
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: IP headers are pretty short IIRC, sec
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klugefoo Tech: wikipedia knows :P
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Why not google it.
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: use ethereal and count!
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Wikipedia is user-edited, and may contain errors!
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: 160 bits without options?
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: i think ur right trurien
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Klugefoo nods at Bulwark Timeghost.
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: my prof asked this question "9.What is the value of HLEN if the total length is 1200 bytes and data from the upper layer is 1176 bytes?" but he only gives the answer choices as 0110, 1001, or 1101... but i thought that the answer would be 24... which is none of those
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skrad Tech: tell him to get a life and stop asking stupid questions :)
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Can't quite recall the significance of HLEN.
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: That's because it's 20, not 24?
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: lol well 20 still can't be represented in 4bits
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Header length = Total Length - Data length = 1200 - 1176 = 24.... HLEN = 24/4 = 6, or 0110 in binary. 
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: thanks charn :)
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: anyone know the size of an ARP packet? i can't seem to find it anywhere online... or is there a way to calculate it?
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insomniac Tech: when you turn like 55 they send you a standard manilla envelope thingy
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gotta love open-book tests
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insomniac Tech: oh, thats aarp.
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: lol insomniac
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: funny, the very first result for googling size of arp packet was a q/a about them listing the sizes...
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Heh.
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you can't handle googling things like that, you will royally suck as a network engineer
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: yeah i saw that abe... but it doesn't say what protocol or hardware that is over
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: it makes a difference doesn't it?
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You groan loudly.
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rude boy Hhugo groans loudly.
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: arp is ethernet
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: and is used to catch the etherbunny
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tigernuts THWAPS Iron Duck Chuft for being a moron.
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Oh, sure. Thwap him for being a smartass.
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'd only thwap him, plenty on here i'd bludgeon to death with something heavy
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Heh, fair enough.
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: he's scared of me ;)
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yes, i'm scared you'll smell in my general direction
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: who wouldn't
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kojax Tech: so i'm trying to connect to aardmud via tinyfugue but it wants a port... any clue what port aardmud connects on?
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amigan Tech: 23 or 4000 I think
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kojax Tech: thanks let me try taht
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: 23, 4000 or 4010 - pick your best :)
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kojax Tech: that worked!!!
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kojax Tech: thanks!!!
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Of course it did.
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: are you by chance related to Ajax ?
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You can read about it under 'help ip' :P
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kojax Tech: so much better
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: ft who knows how to get multiple IPs so I can multiplay ?
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: PaperTiger Panzer keeps hitting himself in the head and uttering, "Doh!"
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: who knows where I put the red button? :)
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: I hear staples has them cheap
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ologn Tech: Mrs. Timeghost tells me you've never been able to find the red button.
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Cool! Cheap and easy! Just like I like them!
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: fire ze mizzile
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: mis ;)
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monsieur Dorleac Tech: hahaha, Mrs. Timeghost, like that'd ever happen.
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ologn Tech: Mr. Timeghost, then
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ologn Tech: 2nd Mr. Timeghost? *boggle*
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Don't let the 'is engaged' in his title fool you. He's just a ticking timebomb that's been engaged and is actively waiting to explode. *inno*
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bulwark Timeghost used to have sharp teeth. Now coupled with long hands.
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bulwark Timeghost turns Alt. Helpa Charneus in to the KGB; it's the Siberan 'Education' camps for him.
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus smirks.
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: if i am trying to change the colors of the clan channel in my mush client why doesnt   {chan ch=clan}* (*) tells the CLAN:*    work?
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Biznitch Isabelle Tech: which is better windows mobile or blackberry operating systems for cell phones?
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on which supports whatever app you consider critical
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: i have heard good things about the windows mobile... and not too good of things on the BBos
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Biznitch Isabelle Tech: i wana run some kind of app for aardwolf
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: either can run an ssh client
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: you can write a really small one in c# for WM.
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: and i have a friend that runs mush-client on his WM
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: but he has an extra mem card
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Biznitch Isabelle Tech: k i think i might go with wm
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's suck
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err that'd suck
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dustin perks up, something must have grabbed his attention.
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Biznitch Isabelle Tech: is it hard to get a ssh or what ever to run a mud client on wm?
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: not sure... i don't have either.
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and likely your friend just runs a remote desktop/VNC to his main mushclient
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: can run tinyfugiue via ssh shell, I guess
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: ask a linuxhead
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, best solution is to have tf running somewhere and ssh into that box
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: i don't know abe... all i know is he told me he was running it... i didn't ask for detail :)
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if he's running it, the author of mushclient doesn't know that it's possible :P
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: of course, the best client is a native windows app ;)
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft blinks innocently.
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but the problem with something like MUSH is that the interface would suck up ALL real estate
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tf is a native windows app ;-)
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: no, it's a distributed source ;)
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and a native OS/2 app...and a native MacOS app...
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: that makes sense abe... but like i said... not too sure. :)
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: also, tf is kinda weak compared to a well setup zmud
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: bug free..but weaker as a client
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it's available as distributed source...it isn't distributed source
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stormwind Tech: Anyone really good with Python?
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stormwind Tech: Anyone decent with Python instead of really good? :)
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: i am "proficient" but not really good...
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: what's a good image editor that is free and lightweight on resources that has most tools needed for simple image editting?
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: paint
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: doesn't do as much as i want to do, nor as easily
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arc Tech: paint.net
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: thanks
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: How would i go about changing the color of spouse cahnnel? {chan ch=spouse} doesn't seem to work?
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: With the colorset command, just like ever other channel
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: That would change all white color, that isnt what i want. I want that specific channel to change.
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: What?
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Stick it Inicus peers intently at Darkknowing.
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: I want the color of spouse channel to stand out better against all the white text, i do NOT want to change the color of all white text.
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it would change the main text that you see on the channel
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: That's why I said use the colorset command dude
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you type "colorset spouse red", it will change the bulk of the text
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: thank you
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: hmm... my Sony ericcson phone just went Invalid Sim, and when i restarted it, it refused to boot
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: corrupted sim.
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: sounds like. did it get exposed to magnetism, sand, or any type of magnetic interference?
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: doesn't work without the sim card either
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: and after transfering the sim to another phone, the sim still works. just my SE phone is dead
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: fun for you. take it to your local provider. they can fix it in a minute. they need only rewrite the sim. odd, in that case.
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: sounds like it's a short in the wires that connect the sim reader to the main circuitry, then.
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: shake it.
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: seriously.
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: it's maybe just a lose component. shake it a little, nothing hard, stick the sim in and boot it.
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: well think its dead. when i press the power button, theres a  little red LED light, but no boot up
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: ah, you are in trouble.
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: you see, that sounds like one of the factory-incoded we're not going to tell you what it means, lights.
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: sometimes it stays red, sometimes it blinks when i press the power button
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: i don't know the codes.
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: means its dead?
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: probably.
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: no wonder i never noticed the light before
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: those light s are probably the diagnostic system. do you see that light any other time?
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: ah, that's what I thought.
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: you see.
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: it's like when my laptop went dead.
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: they told me what to hold in over the phone, and asked me questions about the light pattern of the main power lights.
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: ok thanks
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: off to the bin it goes then
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: no problem, call the manufacturer.
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: actually, hold off on that, especially if it's expensive.
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: is there a worentee?
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: nah its a 3yr+ old SE k800i
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: i'd call either way, it could be a mild problem.
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: and this is the first ever issue i had with it
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: if you throw it out, make sure to wipe it.
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: and I don't think you can just throw it out, legally, anyway.
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: not in the state of OHIO you can't :)
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: its a sign, telling me to get  a new phone
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: Looking for help on making an alias for Aardmush to where up to 60 mobs at once
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stormwind Tech: Anyone familiar with python able to offer some assistance?
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: ssssss
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Darkknowing grabs Tenlorn in a head lock and NOOGIES him... ARGH!!!
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stormwind Tech: holy wow, nevermind.  fixed it after like 20+ tries.
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: glad I could help
T1/r6/2009-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stormwind Tech: no problem pesky placement for a nasty while loop....
T1/r6/2009-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: does anyone know why sometimes my map window does not update on runto?
T1/r6/2009-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: im on mush
T1/r6/2009-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: you have maprun off?
T1/r6/2009-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: thanks foren
T1/r6/2009-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: is there a way so that when i use runto it will just display all the path i traversed at once?
T1/r6/2009-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: kinda like a silent run
T1/r6/2009-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: That would be nice
T1/r6/2009-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: im positive there is coz, thats how my client is before i reinstall mini map plugin
T1/r6/2009-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fendore Tech: anybody know of a working Exp Rate script for zMUD/cMUD?
T1/r6/2009-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: here is mine... http://ozzy.pastebin.com/f69dfa713
T1/r6/2009-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fendore Tech: thanks man
T1/r6/2009-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: lemme import to make sure...
T1/r6/2009-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nod... 1st kill is whack... 0.70 exp per second for 302 seconds. (388exp)
T1/r6/2009-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: then normal... 18.37 exp per second for 8 seconds. (288exp)
T1/r6/2009-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fendore Tech: thanks :D
T1/r6/2009-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: it's very whacky on areaspells/charge kills
T1/r6/2009-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fendore Tech: that's fine
T1/r6/2009-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fendore Tech: having trouble importing it to cMUD. Giving me errors
T1/r6/2009-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: you said zmud... that is zmud dunno bout the /cmud :P
T1/r6/2009-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fendore Tech: i'll fins a way to fix it :P
T1/r6/2009-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fendore Tech: find*
T1/r6/2009-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: how do you import .txt to cmud?
T1/r6/2009-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fendore Tech: frankly i'm not sure hehe
T1/r6/2009-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fendore Tech: i just inserted it all into the command line
T1/r6/2009-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i mean... Fendore Tech: having trouble importing it to cMUD. Giving me errors <---
T1/r6/2009-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i couldnt find a way to get an error even :P
T1/r6/2009-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fendore Tech: i just inserted it all into the command line
T1/r6/2009-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fendore Tech: the whole script
T1/r6/2009-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that'd wouldnt have worked for zmud even
T1/r6/2009-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fendore Tech: i'm sure it would
T1/r6/2009-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nope... it has ~'s in it
T1/r6/2009-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fendore Tech: well i haven't played in a couple of years, so i can't really remember much :(
T1/r6/2009-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: thanks though... made me realize i wasnt spelled up :P 22.28 exp per second for 7 seconds. (156exp)
T1/r6/2009-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kojax Tech: what is the port to connect to aard in TinyFugue?
T1/r6/2009-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: 23... 4000... others too
T1/r6/2009-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: 4010?
T1/r6/2009-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: im on 23 atm
T1/r6/2009-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i've been on 4010 since day 1
T1/r6/2009-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: help ip lists ip and port(s).
T1/r6/2009-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hmm. 4010 is recommended for mccp users in help ip
T1/r6/2009-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: 23 seems to work.. You have compression (mccp v86) on. Bytes In :  31340396 Bytes Out:   3005917 Saving   : 90.41%.
T1/r6/2009-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah. there should be no difference between them, but 4010 is suggested for some reason :\
T1/r6/2009-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that reason sounds over my head whatever it is :P
T1/r6/2009-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir shrugs helplessly.
T1/r6/2009-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: any recommendations for software that can convert avi to mp4 etc for a phone? should have volume boosting, too
T1/r6/2009-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why can't phones play avi files, anyway?
T1/r6/2009-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it can, but they're bigger than necessary and i'd like to boost the volume
T1/r6/2009-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i use DDR for resampling video files, but i'm not sure it does mp4
T1/r6/2009-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it doesn't, or at least, not on the version i have
T1/r6/2009-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: mp4 seems to have best results. my phone supports everything tho
T1/r6/2009-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: anyone here familiar with RAID 5 ?
T1/r6/2009-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: any reason why #TE room# doesnt work to set room correctly on map? works on other portals just not new one
T1/r6/2009-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romael Tech: anybody know a way to make it so the long damage messages go to the beginning of the next line instead of word wrapping?
T1/r6/2009-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Are you talking about at the end of your prompt?
T1/r6/2009-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: If so, just add %c to the end of your prompt.
T1/r6/2009-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romael Tech: hmm ill try that
T1/r6/2009-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romael Tech: that works, but its kinda ugly....i might try put that in bprompt instead
T1/r6/2009-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lozwa Tech: anyone here play starcraft?
T1/r6/2009-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: used to
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: Ok Ive never installed a script before.. Im trying to figure out how to install the scripts I find online into aardmush... how do I get it from the webpage to installed into the game?
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Usually save it as an xml file, then go to add plugin and choose that file.
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: After you download it as an xml file, you just open in aardmush
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: At least, if I remember correctly.
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: when I load the web page it just opens the xmp file it doesnt download it
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: xml
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Right click the link
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: And click save as
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you using firefox?
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: yes I use firefox 
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: teehee
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: thanks guys I think Ive got it
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zogbad Tech: anyone have any tips for the automapper in cmud? is it just me or does it work better if you turn automap off?
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: anyone have a script for aardmush that lets you easily copy color coding? I found one but when I load it aard DCs
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: anyone has problems with atrei autohunt script stopping after the initial hunt?
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: damn, slow comp, takes 65ms wait to do a double beep in zmud
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: how do i get {chat=ftalk} stuff off the bot of my screen.. i forgot :)
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avandore Tech: tags
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: XP doesn't install on SATA drives w/o an external driver disk, right?
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: mudding with an xbox xontroller... sweet
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lozwa Tech: Ok I FOUND a way 2 network starcraft on the internet that works...who plays SC here?
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: not since the 90s :P
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lozwa Tech: Well then u need 2 start playing I just downloade a map pack it had 1,034 maps including pro tourney maps
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: you can either find some folks running windows 98 or find some koreans :p
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothing Noplacebo Tech: graphics are so last millenia
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lozwa Tech: the amount of people still playing is alot
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: a lot
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lozwa Tech: Listen Starcraft is hands DOWN one of the best games ever
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lozwa Tech: yes
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lozwa Tech: there is russia china korea, and usa lobbys anywhere from 30 plus people on usa
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lozwa Tech: I get my friends, I get u guys 2 get this program and we can have some good matches
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It's amusing how you're the only one who is thinking 'Starcraft! Great!!'
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: starcraft was a great game..for it's day
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lozwa Tech: Um, you dont like Starcraft? >_>
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lozwa Tech: I would play SC2 but I dont have a graphics card O_o
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I think most people here don't even care for it anymore.
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: lozwa, people loved starcraft, but we've moved on
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: of course you have a graphics card
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: I think your alone there Lozwa
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: dunno, might be worth a replay, been ten years
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: no idea what I did wwith all the disks and shit though
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: isn't starcraft 2 in the works or something?
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lozwa Tech: No its out.
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: yea, gonf, for about ..10 years :P
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: damn, really?
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lozwa Tech: Also Diablo 3 but I dont have a graphics card, once again lol
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I bet it's shit :P
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you have a graphics card else you wouldn't see anything on your monitor
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: games that are vapourware that long usually are
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: I think getting a job has hindered my ability to keep up with these blizzard games :/
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I mean, take master of orion 3...please
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Nothing Noplacebo slaps Tigernuts.
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lozwa Tech: I also like command and conquer, also the orignal warcraft and warcraft 2 3 great
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lozwa Tech: Gonf just torrent em take u 28 mins 2 download sc and broodwar :P
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: why not just run that kinda stuff on a 98 vm?
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: I have the original CDs, just not sure where I put them
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lozwa nods.
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft nogs at Gonf. Freaks!
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: hell, I think I played you on battle net a few times :P
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lozwa Tech: OK whatever if u find em Ill hop  on later see if u wanna play with us
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: heh, probably :p
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I bought sc while still at uni for the physics degree..damn, really do feel old now :P
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i remember buying quake and grand prix 2
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I also remember trying to play sc while stoned with a freiend on my lan, we never found each other :P
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: playing on the internet was shit anyway, people always had hacked units and that kinda thing, no fun
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: especially gonf, he always cheated
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: yes, I maphack
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: ooo! I see your base!
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: anyone know mush well and want to write a script for me? willing to pay a few tps
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what do you want it to do?
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: its a where script that pops into a diff window
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insomniac Tech: MUSHclient forums have a few channel capturing scripts up.  Shouldn't be too hard to modify them to do whatever you want.
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: I know nothing about scripting though
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insomniac Tech: bah, Lua is easy.
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insomniac Tech: scripting is only hard if you haven't done it before :)
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xp hobo Alixana Tech: anyone know vb .net? i have a question about vscrollbar
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: does anyone know how to prevent casting up "share" spells from the spellup plugin?
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon growls at Gmail.
T1/r6/2009-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Invest-In Nikkei Tech: hey guys, is there a way to change settings in chrome browser such it no longer saves history past 1 day?
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Anyone else experiencing issues with Gmail and/or Google?
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Namely, them randomly suspending accounts, and/or having to do captcha every time you do a search?
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain Flygo Tech: loads just fine for me
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Captain Flygo looks at Apprentice Oladon and goes "Hmmmm."
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain Flygo Tech: were you trying to sell people penis enlargements?
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: I swear I will go to their office in this city if they don't fix it.
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: in Mush whats the counter part to *   don't know any scripting. k * 
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: i
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: xchan
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monsieur Dorleac Tech: fibo, it's %1, %2 etc.
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stickyicky Weed Tech: Ok guys, I'm trying to import a spellup script and im saving target as to my zmud file etc but it doesnt show up when i go to import script but it does when i browse the folder.
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stickyicky Weed Tech: any ideas?
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you go to import, use the drop-down to select all files *.*
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stickyicky Weed Tech: did that
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stickyicky Weed Tech: i also saved it as a text file then as all files to try that to
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make sure you're in the right directory
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stickyicky Weed Tech: I already said I was:p
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, you said you saved it in the right directory, not that you told zmud to look there...
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just because it's the right directory to save it doesn't mean that's where zmud will start looking
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stickyicky Weed Tech: i saved it in my zmud folder and one in my aardwolf folder
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stickyicky Weed Tech: and thats where im browsing to import it
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: generally either the drop-down part isn't correct, or the directory isn't correct...do it when you're not smoking your namesake ;-)
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: also, make sure that it's supposed to be imported that way
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: some scripts are kind of particular about how they're installed
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stickyicky Weed Tech: its ninjas spell script
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, that one looks like it should use import script, you're using a current-ish zmud, not an ancient/free one, right?
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stickyicky Weed Tech: zmud 7.21
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stickyicky Weed Tech: dont wanna sound like everyone else but im blaming vista
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and not on vi...ahh
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: zmud is running as admin?
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stickyicky Weed Tech: yea
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, freaky
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stickyicky Weed Tech: i have to run as admin or it errors
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: see what it does if you go to actions menu, to execute script
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stickyicky Weed Tech: still wont show up:(
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stickyicky Weed Tech: it does this on my buddys computer to
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stickyicky Weed Tech: and he has vista:p
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try just putting it in my docs or desktop, not in zmud folders
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stickyicky Weed Tech: it worked?
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stickyicky Weed Tech: lol
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cool :-)
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stickyicky Weed Tech: thank ya:)
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faerlun Tech: where can i find a decent hunting script for zmud?
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: there is one on the mussite by nick gammon
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: why does 1qt = 60 seconds sometimes?
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: .
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: get to the point
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: sorry, my bot broke, there was no point
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: has there been any more news on M$ antitrust cases?
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: possibly one of the stupidest law cases in the history of the planet, but there
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nah. i think it's pretty neat
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what's neat?
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the antitrust case
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: trouble is, dagnir, it has to be based on law, and if you're going to introduce new regulations on m$, you have to apply across the board
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so if they're going to enforce that completely pointless argument that windows OS should not come bundled with Media Player, they will need to also enforce that no linux distribution comes bundled with a media player, and ensure that Mac OS doesn't come bundled with Quicktime
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what's the thing with spelling it 'm$' anyway? is it to sound cool or what?
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: but they aren't demanding that, which makes a mockery of the court
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: shorthand
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, MS would be shorthand...
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you're missing the s key?
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so when are we going to see the Apple anti-trust case?
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: dunno aboot mac, but linux distros give you a choice between the media players
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when apple starts breaking rules
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that's what it's aboot - choice
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: when ever i've installed ubuntu or mandriva it's never given me an option
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: lol, apple is at least as evil as ms, but they're better at delivering
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: apple should be in antitrust for not allowing iphones to run a different os
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I've got windows media player on my Macs
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: xine, mplayer, Noatun, Kaffeine, and countless others - all in Linux distros
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you do know what a "trust" is, right?
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they're all in, timeghost, but unless you install in a non-standard way, you can't choose what not to install
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: if MS gave you RealPlayer, Quicktime player, DIVX, and more, as a choice during your install - no one would complain
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yes they would
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: nope, they wouldn't - you'd have the choice
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: how do you install windows in a non-standard way?
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it was never a court case about choice, timeghost
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the case is regarding MS "abusing its dominant position in the market"...those words don't apply to linux or apple...
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bundling media player with their os isn't abuse
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: thats what it boils down to at a fundamental level
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it's not
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can't just ignore the basis for the cases and claim that it's what it boils down to
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if it was bundled AND you were unable to remove it, and unable to install a different one, it'd be abuse
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and this is the same case that you've been looking for "new information" on for 6 years now...give it a rest :-)
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: to use an analogy, it's like going to GM and saying, "i'm sorry, but Lotus are trying to produce a car that runs on methane. Your cars run on petrol - you're not producing a car that runs on methane, so you're abusing your dominant market position"
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well it does prove something
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: european parliament really is crap
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: you just got me lost in that analogy completely :)
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bunch of autocrats looking for excuses to continue employment
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: what it boils down to a consumer is the following analogy. "Buy our mirror! It's the best! For only 500$ you get the mirror AND lipstick free!" - I don't want the lipstick, I want a mirror for the price of a mirror.
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you should move to the states and start calling people in europe filthy socialists
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so i should take PG Tips to court because they were offering a free mug with packs of 240 tea bags?
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: just how stupid does that sound?
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: dunno, but i don't like lipstick on my mirror. i usually clean it manually before i install it
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: if PG tips offers packages without the cup for the usual price, you have no case. And they do.
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not while they're on promotion they don't
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: sure they do - you can go and find one in another shop
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: there's a technicality issue there and common sense issue
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: if they didn't EXIST at all - that would be a valid case.
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, back when I worked at a gas station, we'd often grab the freebie and turn the special 3-pack into a normal 3-pack :P
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well that's why you can borrow the N-variant of Vista, and why i don't know anyone ever that's bought or seen it
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: pointless beurocracy, pointless argument, waste of millions of $$ of taxpayers money, bunch of lawyers with nothing better to do
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MS paid 80% of legal costs ;-)
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you don't have anything else to worry aboot?
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i want my 20% back :-)
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and i want the %age of the rise in costs of all their software i had to foot because they put the price up to compensate their 80% legal costs
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'd gladly pay it to you if you'd only shut up
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and I want a Lion bar
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: done deal, dagnir, off you go to the bank
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ok. give me the calculations first
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you know, the 20% divided between all european taxpayers etc
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that 20% was better than offset by the couple hundred million euros fines
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 497 million euros
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that was just the first fine
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'll settle for that
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: though i'm currently being done up like a kipper because the weakness of the GBP
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 83 quid for a vista hp license
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that's awesome. i've been buying cheap stuff from uk :)
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: only cheap if it was made here
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nah. htc phones are made in taiwan :P
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: shouldn't be any cheaper here then
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: would be cheaper getting em direct
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: cheaper than in estonia
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yeah, well estonia they only export rocks
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and booze
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: mad potato juice
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what's that?
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: vodka, i'd expect
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that's it
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also beer
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and tech
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you don't export tech
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you barely have electricity
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: heh. it's one of the top it countries in europe
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: in inverted commas
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: inverted commas?
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: '"' '"'
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Wow, there were 6 there.
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: thats how believable it was
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: duv|
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also, we've got a secret language with only 1m speakers :P
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: next you'll be saying you're one of the top footballing nations in europe
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nah, we suck at football
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you're a Russian satellite state, so suck it up :-)
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: So? That's big talk coming from a member of a former British colony.
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Irony duly noted.
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you obviously don't understand the meaning of the phrase
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm in england, I am from the empire!
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it got a bit smaller in the last 60 years
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Oh, I always thought you were from the US.
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: hell no
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: My apologies then, apparently real Englishmen can be every bit as brash and loudmouthed as imaginary stereotypical Texans.
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nah, just a troublemaker, like rattling the geek cage some
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Which explains your constant trolling on tech ;)
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: how rude, i normally only jump in on arguments that are going on ;-)
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: ... and the M$ one was going on how?
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: been going on for years
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Same way the Earth's been going round the Sun..
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ahh, doesn't any more, sun's stuck up Obama's arse
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, been going on for years...every time you decide to start it
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i never started that
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Can't be, he supposedly caught a cold. Maybe that's what gave him the fever..
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you never started the rant on the MS case?
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i never started the MS case
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: lol
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i have it logged :P
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: No one would ever dream of crediting you with starting the actual suit :D
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm not even sure who brought it
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but the issue which you skirted was in tech channel arguments
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what was?
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you were accused of trolling tech...you said you never start, but jump in on pre-existing arguments
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: is that what we're talking about now? oh, ok
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you've been starting the MS case argument for years
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you've never done that, abelinc
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: glad you could keep up
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or not
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're correct, I've never brought up the MS case
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: but you're quite practiced at trolling
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: let's have a linux vs windows flamewar since we're all here anyway
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd like you to show a single topic that I've started on tech :-)
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: thats not the same as trolling
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the winner...neither OS :-)
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir goes to Tigernuts, "SUUUUUUUURE...."
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: The pronunciation of windows is less ambiguous
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at (Ivar)  Gregor.
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i dunno, i've heard people mispronounce vista
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, linux is named for linus, so that's how I pronounce it
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you pronounce in with a s?
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: li-nucks
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You snicker with him about your shared secret.
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lie-nucks
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: i as in indoor not island
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, that's the one I refuse to buy into ;-)
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: just call it ubuntu, or mandriva, or whatever
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: or just say 'my OS'
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ubuntu != linux
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: neither ubuntu, mandriva, nor "whatever" are linux :)
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: vista != windows
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: right
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd never call it my OS, I don't care for linux
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: "linux" refers to the kernel only.
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well, you 'll have a hard job of teaching joe public that
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: and since sources for statements should be cited, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux and links therein
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as opposed to the distribution of kernel and userland
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: I'm not teaching here, I'm stating a fact
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You snicker softly.
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can't teach the bullheaded anyway :-)
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it'll never catch on anyway
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's already caught on, it'll just never predominate
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's well past critical mass, it's not a passing fad, it's not going to disappear in the near future
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: Abelinc - yes
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: the problem is that people want everything spoon fed to them, so windows will always dominate because people want what is easy and doesn't require them to think
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hell, last I saw, it had higher market penetration than mercedes benz, BMW and a few other car companies that you'd never claim "won't catch on" combined
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: around here, only secretaries in universities and research centres get windows. All other staff has linux :)
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Until update/restart #942 forces them to think "Why must I keep doing this?"
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: in "my" company all runs ubuntu
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: $200k saving in licensing per year
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: when i was at uni, some of the hardened professors used various linux builds alongside windows, but even those still used windows mostly
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ultimately saves little
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chosig falls down laughing.
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: just found out that an aunt of mine was a "hacker" when she was younger...
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: openoffice seems to have surplanted MS Works as the cheap home word processor of choice
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: but everyone i deal with still want MS office
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: That's because they've been using it for years. OpenOffice is relatively new, and improving.
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's no comparison to MS office, but it's much better than works
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oo.org is good enough for home use. how much is office licence anyway?
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: few hundred
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: how do I export one class folder for all settings variables triggers aliases etc in zmud 7.21?
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: for non-commercial use, much less
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they practically give it away to universities
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: still more than necessary
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: university isn't the same as non-commercial
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: non-commercial use is the same price as commercial use
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no it isn't, abe
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Used to be $100 or so for a Student license... never bought it.
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: non-prof and/or edu use is cheaper
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they don't discount consumer vs commercial...commercial is often cheaper simply because you're using MVS
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: office commerical is some $200
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: think office pro is some $300
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's also many different versions, including different programs
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so depends on what all you want/need
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: can't imagine why anyone would pay for office for home use
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can get basic for 150, through ultimate full at 680 (US)
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: because they want the same software at home as they have at work or school
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not exactly brain surgery
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir shrugs helplessly.
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so they can call up Johnny who "knows computers" and get him to answer questions ;-)
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and means they can take work from home and know it'll open
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: my mother is using oo.org on the family desktop and office on her work laptop/desktop without any problems
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your mother has you ;-)
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and she probably doesn't do anything remotely complicated on it
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not really. i've been in estonia only during last 10 months or so
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: like most home users, nuts
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: student don't
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but she also uses it for her work stuff
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: powerpoint is where it all falls apart for o/o
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}It's Big Rampagne Tech: anyone really good with the zmud mapper?
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}It's Big Rampagne Tech: I am trying to learn it
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}It's Big Rampagne Tech: it won't capture rooms
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: use roomtags?
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tags are the best thing since sliced bread for scripts :-)
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}It's Big Rampagne Tech: i need to have room tags on?
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It helps.
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't "need" to, but it's insanely better
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: zmud would need to know what the name of the room is, and recognize that it's the name of the room...having it be "{rname}Name Of Room" goes a long way to ensuring that zmud knows that it's not just a random line of text
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}It's Big Rampagne Tech: ok now i have all my tags on and when i get tells sent to me it opens them and then says i have tells to replay
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faerlun Tech: anyone has any clue about this, if i'm on zmud my IE won't open any pages atm?
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: looking for someone who is good at coding in zmud 7.21 that will work for money
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: money or gold? (I'm not qualified, just curious)
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: gold/tp whatever
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: How would i make an if fuction in mush so that if rname=![specified name} then {this happens}
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: i have a fairly simple script i need wrote and i'll pay for it
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: has anyone seen the Panasonic Viera HDTV commercial?
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycynder Tech: anyone used lua to query cmud dbs?
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IamMafia Tech: How do i make it so that my spellup plugin will not cast on this acc? It has all my spells from my main, and when i log on this one it starts to remove them
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: is there any free downloadable anti virus software I can get off the net?I have a virus that is telling me to get there spyware... please help =(
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: did the ruskies get you 
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: my stupid roomate, touched my computer when I was at work today
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: I knew something was up because the house was to clean when I got home
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: avg (free antivirus) sbybot search and destory (spyware remover) adaware (adware remover)
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: so I start up, and my background is changed with flashing lights saying my comp is infected
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: be careful, that suggested spyware may be a trojan infection waiting for an invite
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: Ageha have you had any positive results with any of those listed
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: i hate avg 
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: offcourse the suggested spyware is fraud
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: but spybot and adaware are great
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustin Tech: go to AVG.com. Free antivirus. works great for me.
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: i use trendmicro 
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: combofix for really nasty problems
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: I tried adaware and it wouldn't work. avg, thanks guys
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: they have a free online scan and fix you can run called housecall
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Also, I've been using Antivir for years and have had no problems. Of course, more than half my time used to be spent on Ubuntu, but now I'm back on Vista and still it's OK.
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: so at avg.com I get the trial version?
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: no avg totally free
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustin Tech: yea its free
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: trendmicro free eonlien scan and fix is at housecall.trendmicro.com
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yup, AVG and Antivir are two of my favourite free antivirus software. I'd recommend ClamAV too but I haven't used it enough.
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: I think whatever I've got on my comp right now is keeping me from downloading antispyware. omg.
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: It does that sometimes.
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: it actually kept me from opening task manager, I fixed that. omg my roomate is dead.
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: a favorite trick of some ruskie websites is to advertise cracks to commercial software, then when "marks" come looking, infect them with a virus -- those websites are likely financed by the commercial software manufacturers
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: your roommate was likely looking for a "crack" and visited a hacker website
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Freaking crackheads.
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: MedoicreSloth software sucks -- the design of web-browsing software is grossly defective if viruses are able to spread by simply visiting a website
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Medoicresloth?
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: MediocreSloth
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Mediocresloth?
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: MS
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: That was pretty lame.
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: that Mediocre software supplier that is a Sloth in eliminating bugs and footdragging in suppling virus-immune software
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Witty.
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Xyliz: if you hope for virus-immune software, you can keep hoping. I personally hope it doesn't come, because that would mean the end of innovation.
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: We need to fix the main cause of viruses, which some have referred to as the monitor-chair interface.
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: (Trurien, that is not logical since) innovation is hampered by viruses and trojans -- millions of man-hours of innovation are lost because of viruses and trojans
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: So creating more secure software isn't innovation? Viruses spur innovation, just as biological viruses help drive evolution.
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Unless you're a creationist, in which case it's merely god's way of punishing you for being gay.
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Stick it Inicus laughs out loud at Obyron.
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I'll stick with the evolution thing...
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Xyliz: no, really. It is impossible to write software that has no bugs. Write better idiot-proof stuff and we'll come up with better idiots?
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Well those were two unrelated statements, but both true.
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: at some point the idiots won't really be idiots
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: its not impossible to write software with no bugs..
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: there is a thing called a debugging process
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: ooo, you got burned!
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: impossible to write software of any actual substance with no bugs
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Skeelo: tell me why there is still a Bugs board after 12 years of Aard.
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, you can write a bug free "hello world"
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: of course.. if you dont take the time to properly search for and fix the bugs
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: once code has any real level of complexity, it won't be bug free
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: tru because firstly aardwolf is a free game
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: resources
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Skeelo: don't go there. You don't want Lasher to hear you...
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: free's irrelevant...there isn't a single bug-free commercial piece of software either
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: it is relevant..
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it's not
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: money isnt relevant when it comes to the debugging of an online game?
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lasher doesn't slack off of due dilligence because of his pay
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: are you serious?
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: lasher is one person
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: "Windows" (and **nix wannabe imitators of "Windows") is grossly defective in design and implementation since virus and trojans are spread so readily -- "Windows" is like a holed sieve where security is concerned
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: debugging usually takes more than one person..
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: one person or 30, makes no difference
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Skeelo: have you seen Bugs board?
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: abelinc you are not making any sense
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Virtually the entire MUD is welcome to find Bugs.
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: **nix? Lunix?
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when there's more than one person looking for the bugs, there's also more than one person creating the bugs
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: my point is very clear
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the "buggability" scales well with the number of people
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: And lots of people do. Still the Bugs never get found.
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: And wouldn't ** be redundant when * is already globbing more than one character?
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your point is very wrong
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: the more money you have.. the more resources you have to make aardwolf or any game bug free
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: clear or otherwise
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: skeelo, yes, that's why all commercial games have bugs as well
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I will not dispute that you have more resources... more money is definitely more resources.
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: I agree.. im not trying to argue and be the opposite of everything you said.
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: they aren't bug free because they largely depend on software they don't have control over (ie, third party stuff).
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: And those resources can go towards making software bug free.
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: but when you say that its impossible to make a bug free game.. that is false
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure you are
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I said software.
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Abelinc qualified it to say software 'of any substance'.
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: You can probably be happy with Solitaire, or Notepad. Those shouldn't have bugs.
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: software of high complexity, with innovation/non-stagnation, and have it be bug free
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: simply won't happen
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: regardless of resources
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: Look at an online game like WoW and a free mmorpg like Tibia and compare the bugs
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there'll always be a version .01
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: plus at certain levels of complexity bugs take on a different meaning closer to "design flaw" rather than "whoops, I typo'd"
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: The number of bugs doesn't matter, as long as it's not 0.
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: skeelo, we are...that's why we're confidently saying that the bugs exist even with those large resources
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which is where your argument falls short
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: well im not a game programmer and coder so I am sure their can be bugs in any compex multi functional programs
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: but to say that it is impossible.. is just downright false
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: good, then we're all agreed now :-)
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not can be...will be
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I am not a game programmer and coder either.
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can be would be pretty obvious
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just have to be a realist
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: its impossible to find the largest prime number.. because numbers are infinite
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just like any set of encyclopedia will still have typos
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: the length of game code to be corrected is not infinite
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Has that actually been proven?
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: That there are infinitely many primes?
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Obyron, I believe so.
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Maybe I'm thinking of the Twin Prime Conjecture.
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: yes there are infinitely many porimes
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: an infinite range has at least one pattern that reproduces throughout
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: given any number n, n!+1 is either prime or is a composite number with primes greater than n
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: thus given any number n, there is a prime bigger than n
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Yeah, I'm thinking of twin primes.
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: liner algebra.. aghh!!
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: linear^
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: wait.. no
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: I meant discreet mathematics
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: ^_^
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Anyway, back to bugs... our best bet of having good reliable software is to have the 'real users' with good intentions find the bugs before those who want to exploit them for personal gain do.
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: discreet math is mostly boolean logic ;-)
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and sorting fun
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: And I'd think it was discrete math. Discreet math is just integrating with the lights down low.
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: I recognize it
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: I just can't fully comprehend it
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: nobody comprehends math, they only get familiar with it
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: thats a nice logic lol
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: In Soviet Amerika, Math comprehend YOU!
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: the more advanced the mathematics.. the more you realize how bad you are at it lol
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: similar to the concept of the more you learn the more you realize you dont know
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: MS employees are likely hired for their ability to be sociable and fun to work with and incompetent at programming -- MS likely wants a new different set of bugs in each new version of software so that users shall upgrade to new bugs in a futile attempt to escape the old bugs -- but the user does get extra bells and whistles
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Xyliz: while that might be true, and sometimes seems like it, it can't be a sensible policy ;)
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: when Windows 7 arrives, all those dissatisfied Vista users shall be tempted to upgrade
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: you know.. I intentionally do not install any MS Windows update
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: From everything I've heard, 7 is sweet.
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: the more updates I have.. the more problems I have
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: were all the disgruntled XP users tempted to upgrade to Vista?
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Skeelo: I accidentally Conficker. Is this dangerous?
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: 1st year linear algebra - the textbook title is advanced linear algebra, 3rd year linear algebra - the textbook title is intermediate linear algebra, grad school linear algebra with infinite dimensional spaces, the title is introduction to linear algebra
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: lol wilbon
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: that is interesting
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: besides, everyone knows Skynet does the hiring at Microsoft
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: dotnet is skynet right?
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: skynet... now that's a stock that's going nowhere but up!
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: The truth is out! Everybody run-----
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: skynet is dotnet?
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't trust anyone with "bug" in their name!
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spodgy Tech: skynet wont be dotnet.. by that stage (framework v50) the language will be so abstracted from the hardware they won't have a clue how to get the robots to move
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: You speak of abstraction like it's a bad thing :P
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: 7 is sweet? Do you know what file extension they decided to associate with Windows Media Center without caring who might already be using it? mcl - as in aardwolf.mcl
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: You can still load the things fine with Windows, just change the default action if you must. Dragging and dropping the file probably is easier, or else just open it from within Mushclient. :)
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I have to say, that is annoying, though.
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spodgy Tech: nahhh of course not :) I appreciate abstraction from a re-usability, flexibility pov.. just a heck of a learning curve coming into a post when the decisions had been made!
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Yeah, Windows 7 is a horrible OS because they didn't think about MUSHclient!
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Stick it Inicus buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: I found out about the file type association when I was straightening out access permissions to the world files.
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: That sucks. Did you try double-clicking, or did the icon change?
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: I must have double clicked while I was trying to get to properties
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I'd imagine it would be called something other than MCL File, especially if they'd found a use for it.
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: anyone with moonscript can refresh me please?
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimamatl Tech: so whats the magic to get scripts from the cmud library thing to actually work
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimamatl Tech: says they installed properly but none of em are doing anything
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: They downloaded properly. They don't auto-install.
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <sarcasm> Forestseer makes himself look big!
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Go into the settings editor and click File, then "View Package"
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Then after the picture of my junk pops up on your screen, you'll have the option to view your download.
T1/r6/2009-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: You can then pick which classes to add to your settings, or just drag the whole tab over to your package and close the downloaded one.
T1/r6/2009-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: I seem to be having an issue with Big Map grabbing the cursor focus when I move. Probably just need to restart, but is that common? Is there a setting to prevent it?
T1/r6/2009-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rolst Tech: i am looking for some help with running triggers on cmud for spellup
T1/r6/2009-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rolst Tech: anyone out there able to help?
T1/r6/2009-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I am looking at putting together a movie trailer type video for our football team next season.  Any ideas on a good program to use to make it?  I have windows movie maker now, but it really doesn't have that many bells and whistles in it.
T1/r6/2009-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: magix movie edit pro is pretty cheap
T1/r6/2009-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: Is it easy to use?
T1/r6/2009-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yep
T1/r6/2009-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: Another question, anywhere that I can download music to add to the video.  Looking for more musical type things.  No words wanted..  Just to set mood.
T1/r6/2009-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: ok, someone help.
T1/r6/2009-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I'm driving myself crazy.
T1/r6/2009-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: can't help with that, sorry
T1/r6/2009-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I've got a thumbdrive.
T1/r6/2009-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: and an iso for ubuntu.
T1/r6/2009-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and?
T1/r6/2009-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: how do i put the two together, in such a way that I can boot ubuntu from the drive?
T1/r6/2009-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is that iso designed to be used from a thumbdrive?
T1/r6/2009-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I've tried trying to figure out isobuster, imgburn only goes to CD, the easy installer thing I found doesn't work.
T1/r6/2009-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: yes.
T1/r6/2009-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I've got a conversion utility. it's not working, though.
T1/r6/2009-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: generally, distros will have instruction specifically on how to make a bootable flash drive
T1/r6/2009-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: o?
T1/r6/2009-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I didn't see it...will look.
T1/r6/2009-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: microsoft virtual pc is crap, btw.
T1/r6/2009-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
T1/r6/2009-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: vpc is great
T1/r6/2009-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I do not want to install it.
T1/r6/2009-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I want to use  the live distro.
T1/r6/2009-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: same instructions, I'm sure
T1/r6/2009-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: i couldn't install it if I wanted to, still looking up how to go about making dual partitions.
T1/r6/2009-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: now, i'll go about that route, and fix my screen resolution while I'm at it.
T1/r6/2009-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: qemu's decent for just running a linux distro within windows, much lighter than vpc
T1/r6/2009-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: mvpc messed it up.
T1/r6/2009-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://www.howtoforge.com/installing-ubuntu-8.10-on-your-usb-flash-drive
T1/r6/2009-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: thanks, i'm off to fix and break stuff.
T1/r6/2009-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: of course those instructions are from inside ubuntu
T1/r6/2009-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: heh
T1/r6/2009-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/create-a-bootable-ubuntu-usb-flash-drive-the-easy-way/
T1/r6/2009-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lother Tech: So im completely new when it comes to Mud Clients and im using the MuschClient from the website, whats a good website for learning how to do Triggers/Scripts/Etc
T1/r6/2009-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: mushclient.com?
T1/r6/2009-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why mushclient?
T1/r6/2009-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lother Tech: I actually like this client so far :)
T1/r6/2009-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lother thanks Bast heartily.
T1/r6/2009-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mardus Tech: wierd.. all drivers are installed, no conflicts, but no sound (xp pro)
T1/r6/2009-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: I tried to tell the guy who hosts the iwuvaard site that the user/passwords table was public... Nobody did anything...
T1/r6/2009-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: Told em a few months back
T1/r6/2009-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Honestly, Abelinc pats Xioustic on the back
T1/r6/2009-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: ok.
T1/r6/2009-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: wonderful news, after 6 months of off and on research, iv'e got a working, accessible linux distro.
T1/r6/2009-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: and thus, stupid n00b questions to go along with it.
T1/r6/2009-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: like, orca.
T1/r6/2009-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: orca, the wonderful screen reader isn't working well with the default gnome quit
T1/r6/2009-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: is there a way to escape commands entered into the command line of mushclient to bypass ANY aliases, triggers, etc?
T1/r6/2009-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: anyone having probs with gmail?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mitragyna Tech: i'm using the aard client with wine in a linux environ
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mitragyna Tech: and whenever i tried to use a help file the app crashes
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mitragyna Tech: any ideas on how to remedy this?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Hit shift+ctrl+p and disable the plugin called Aardwolf_Help
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mitragyna Tech: awesome, thanks
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Stick it Inicus gives a thumbs-up to Mitragyna.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: anyone have an opinion on (non-gui) bit torrent client for linux ? im using transmission-cli atm.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: why do my zmud triggers not fire off when there is sort of buffer lag, like when there is spell delay?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Anyone know if I can make it so ctrl+a in zmud doesn't shortcut to aliases?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: is F.E.A.R 2 any good?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: good review - http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/565-Fear-2
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: informative AND entertaining :)
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: the guy on there sounds like he could be british
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: he is
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Air-Borne Anadorr Tech: what's better (in a view of overclocking and game efficiency): P4 3.0Ghz Prescott(and overclock) or Celeron 2.8Ghz@3.4Ghz Prescott or P4 2.8-3.0 Ghz Northwood ?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: ok. how do i connect gnome to the internet?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: i've tried everything, everything. every possible permutation in google, everything it says to try in the help, and yet I can't find a simple click on the network you want to connect to and enter a password list, which should be there.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothing Noplacebo Tech: what version of linux are you running?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: we're going on 3 hours of trying.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: ubuntu 9.04.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: with gnome somethingorother, and orca.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I can't be on here and on linux at the same time. it's a live distro, and I'd have to reboot even if it weren't.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: It should be automatic, Camlorn.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothing Noplacebo Tech: ubuntu has a lot of help out there. am currently connected through gnome mud on ubuntu 9.04 here.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: lol. I've got a secure network.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad angel Ghaan Tech: I was using rtorrent.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: heh, i'd never be able to mud on ubuntu
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: the "automatic" part just isn't happening.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothing Noplacebo Tech: how would it connect to the net?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I'm on tt++ on Ubuntu 9.04 over SSH - my laptop monitor is dead.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: wireless.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: not sure how to set that up...how do i find out:)?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: You'd probably want to see if gnome-network-manager is up.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: wireless? ubuntu? good luck
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothing Noplacebo Tech: you're trying to run it on a laptop?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: i know I should know that one. yes, laptop.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: you might have trouble with those wireless card
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothing Noplacebo Tech: it's not so bad since 8.04
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad angel Ghaan Tech: -g 20
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: hmmm.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yeah, could you check dmesg ?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: gnome-network-manager.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: ubuntu's device support has been horrific since forever
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: lemme guess, atheros?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: particularly bad on wifi
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: wierd...I can't get that package.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: or couldn't.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothing Noplacebo Tech: if you can get your wireless card running (you'll probably need extra software downloaded from multiverse repositories)
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Nonsense, Farkyss - I've never had trouble. (Till I switched to atheros.)
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: when I tried to do network-manager in the console, it told me I needed gnome-network-manager installed.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: so if you use possibly the most commonly used wireless chipset in the world, you'll have trouble
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: it's a wonderful, wonderful dell computer.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: My broadcom wireless card used to be automatically detected.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I have trouble with it on windows. broadcom...I think that's what I've got.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Has been from 5.04 to 9.04 :)
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: it's not doing it in 9.04?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothing Noplacebo Tech: my housemate and my gf both have dell laptops running 9.04 with wireless no probs...
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Eh, apologies. Broadcom was another computer.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: This one I think is running an Intel integrated wireless card.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: ok, here's the difficulties.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: i am using orca.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i always have trouble with atheros
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: so, I can't just "click".
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: mind you, i don't fancy moving off xp period
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Are you not comfortable with the command line?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: since windows 7 looks like it'll be a pile of shit too
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: not leaving xp, meet the dual boot.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: i am,
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: just can't find an easy way to do it that way without modifying .conf files.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Farkyss - have to wait on that count, I liked what I saw from Windows 7.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: try madwifi drivers
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Camlorn, let me switch screens and take a look.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i saw the requirements and that was enough for me to say no thanks
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: that and the fact they're doing a 32bit version
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothing Noplacebo Tech: you'll probably have to copy and paste some lines into .conf files to make it automatic... but there's a lot of guides out there.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: lol.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Can you confirm your wireless card ?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: but here's the paradox: I can not connect to the internet from linux to view them. I think I can, one moment.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: have to remember where I saw it...device manager I think...
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Try going to a console, type dmesg | less :)
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothing Noplacebo Tech: no chance you can connect to the net through your home network via a cable?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothing Noplacebo Tech: temporarily
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Then try to see what wireless card you're using.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: oki.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I have it.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: So what model is it?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: it's a dell wireless 1500 draft 802.11 nwlan mini-card
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: there's several others.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: a broadcom 440x10/100 integrated controller.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Such as? That one's probably for the LAN cable.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: but I think it's the dell one for wireless.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: the mini-card.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: broadcom 440x10 is the wired lan card
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: a 1394 and bluetooth adapter are the others.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: which means, del.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I hate dell.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: so, next, list of supported cards from internet.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glojn Tech: can anyone tell me how to turn on local echo since im using command prompt to run the mud?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glojn Tech: i cant se my text when i type it
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: err your client settings, telnet client
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Glojn: telnet?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothing Noplacebo Tech: any reason you don't want to use another client?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: ok. problem. nothing by dell is listed.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: hmmm.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/3839
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glojn Tech: i cant gewt them working on my pathetic peice of crap that is the 2003 windows xp
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: remote terminal
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: is it actually a dell card? they don't manufacture wireless devices
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothing Noplacebo Tech: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=342558 might be useful..
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: This one is for Dell Inspiron 1501. Farkyss - it seems to be a Broadcom base.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glojn Tech: ive managed to connect to telnet using 
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glojn Tech: abatch file that says telnet aardwolfmud.org
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: that's where I checked.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: nothing about my wireless card there.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: ah, nvm.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: internet wierdness.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: dell's website doesn't give you any hint of the vendor they've rebadged it off
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Camlorn: Sorry, I forgot about this, though it's probably not going to throw up much new stuff... try lspci | less?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glojn Tech: noplacebo:  i think im using windows xp 2003
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: what's that do?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I'm not on linux, if I was, I'd not be on here.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: lspci should show you the stuff that's being recognised by the kernel.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: lists your pci devices
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Of course. :P Dual-boot is fun, though.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: ok. this is insane. will it work with usb wireless cards?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glojn Tech: ahh i dont understand any of this
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: It should.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: almost certainly not, camlorn
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: hmmm. is the linksys one working.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Glojn: hold on.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: it should
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Do you already have one?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i have dlink and linksys worked on 8.10
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: yes. I have that one.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glojn Tech: i just want toi know how to see my text
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: the linksys thing.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: it should work camlorn.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: sorry, ignore us, we're talking about linux, not telnet. there's one client that might work...though...hang on. I'll tech ok. so plug it in, and it works?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: =h 10
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: sorry.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: right. if you're comfortable with the command line, there's one that will run on almost anything.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glojn Tech: linux is crap no offese :S
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: trying to have two conversations.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: on the same channel.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Glojn laughs
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: its better than your windows xp 2003 :o
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: either way. I plug it in, and what then? My network is secured and isn't going to be unsecured again.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nah, glojn, it's not crap, it's just got awful hardware support
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glojn Tech: yeah they lie
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: great for developers. you can even cross-compile without a lot of work.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it's writers obviously aren't paying manufacturers enough to produce drivers
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: what do you mean by secure?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: lol. well, true enough.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Farkyss: evidently.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: wpa-psk.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: the network has a wpa-psk.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Glojn: why not try something like MUSHclient?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: mushclientt's decent.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glojn Tech: so like  
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glojn Tech: developers use it?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Get the Aardwolf MUSHclient, why not.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I bet google does.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothing Noplacebo Tech: if you want a better supported version you should pay for it. or pay someone to write the code to match your machine. it's probably still cheaper than buying windows 7/osx and all the relavant software
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glojn Tech: sorry guys, isa it free?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: it's great for web hosting, integrated systems, fast working stuff. call boxes.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: linux developers should give up and instead help microsoft write windows 8
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: quite extensively, glojn
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: yes, mushclient is free.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Glojn: it is a bit icky when you're starting out, especially if you look up stuff that asks you to dive into the command line.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Farkyss: dream on. They'd be ignored and crushed anyway.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I'm not scared of the command line, I've worked out apt-get already.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothing Noplacebo Tech: windows should give up and help ubuntu develope ubuntu 10:P
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: me thinks i know why Glojn is not liking linuxxxx
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glojn Tech: see thats the stuff the baffles me
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Noplacebo: no way, better not.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I just can't get on the internet to read about how to do it, because linux refuses, vehemently, to do it.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Nothing Noplacebo grins evilly at Camlorn.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: why so they can mess that up, too?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: they were supposed to be completely rewriting the kernel for windows 7, nice how quickly that idea got ditched in favour of a ME style cut-and-shut
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Oh, it's not a complete rewrite? I thought it was.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: glojn, that's why you're confused even using telnet in windows
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothing Noplacebo Tech: they give us the money, we make an os for the people. luckily i don't have a big part:P
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nah, it's the vista kernel
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glojn Tech: so mush clien: can you use it for andy other muds?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: yes.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: bloatware 2010
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glojn Tech: well thanks ellas
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glojn Tech: ill search it
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: welcum Glojn
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glojn Tech: signing out
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: so, if i put the linksys thing in, it'll work. but how do i enter my info? system>preferences>network connections>wireless>add?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Sure, but the Aardwolf one is customised for Aard :)
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: glojn, hang on
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: the aardwolf mush just has a set of plugins for supporting aardwolf -- mushclient itself is generic
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Hm, Camlorn, you should get to the console and start gnome-network-manager & ... that will get your autodetect stuff set up.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: haven't the package.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: i'm thinking this iso is crap, now.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I should have gnome-network-manager.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: *Yay!*  Go Camlorn!!!  Feral Farkyss cheers him on.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Gah, is it the default ISO? It should have, yeah.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: camlorn it should auto detect, its a pci card right?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: glojn, to see what you type, you turn on localecho...type ctrl-] then "set localecho", then hit enter twice
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: don't know if it's default. I downloaded it from another site, which linked me there, it's for usb thumbdrives.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: GentooX: his PCI card didn't quite work, he wants to try a USB wireless card now.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: the more it auto detect
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: unfortunately, i'm stuck with this crappy 2g thumbdrive.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I should think so, I just don't know if it does because I haven't tried it.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: ooOo linux talk. what chipset is the PCI wireless ?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: errr do you have the network applet on top-right of your desktop?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nobody knows, naomii
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: naomii could be any
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: hmmm.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I have an idea!
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: again...
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Farkyss: you've got a custom build of XP? I think you mentioned it before.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: "one that's not supported by linux", naommi
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: i'll extract the official iso on top of this one.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: custom? no, pretty ordinary
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: format the drive, and redo the procedure.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Camlorn: where did you get this ISO from then?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Farkyss: sorry, I meant heavily customised setup of a normal build.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: my laptop does, desktop doesn't
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Ah ... so the desktop is as-provided+windows-updated?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I'll remake the thumbdrive.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nogs
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glojn Tech: thanks so much mushclient works
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: lspci should list the chipset
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glojn Tech: youse are awesome
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: it should
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Did you get that one done from the make USB install facility within Ubuntu?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I'll look, after I remake the drive.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I'm starting to be suspicious of that iso.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Glojn thanks you all
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GentooX waves goodbye to Glojn.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Naomii: he's on dualboot, so he won't be talking to us until either Ubuntu networking works or he reboots again.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: lspci. must ingrane into memory.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Glojn waves back. You too
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Glojn bows deeply.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: correct. and it'll be a couple hours.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Camlorn: just remember "list pci devices"
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: i'm going to remake the drive because of suspicions about the iso I've been using.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: oOOo *sniff im pretty handy with the linux, too.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you have good reason to be suspicious about it
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Where did you get it from, Camlorn?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: if I could connect it, I'd probably go as far as setting up ssh and having one of you do it:)
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: but I can't.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: edubuntu, kubuntu?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: what are those?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Heh, if you could connect it, you're better off getting it set up on your own, that's how we learn :P
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: cast /proc/pci
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Those are just Ubuntu, with a different desktop environment laid over.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: cat /proc/pci
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I wonder. does any of them besides gnome come with orca, or similar?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Naomii giggles at GentooX's actions.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Edubuntu might. Kubuntu would probably have something else, since I think orca is a gnome package.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: your mudding and your linux are mushing together =)
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: camlorn, you might want to just try something like http://preview.tinyurl.com/am5zzf
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I'll get default.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: But why are you using orca?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: trurien, blind
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: edubuntu 8.10 doesnt have orca
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: why wouldn't I? lol.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: sorry, i just find it odd that you'd ask, since orca is for the blind:)
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you could stick to xp and save yourself some time :-)
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: are you?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Hm, VI isn't the same as blind. I thought orca was a magnifier?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I only remember the name, not exactly what it does :)
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: im lost...
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: orca is speech synth, braille access and magnifier...it's most of gnome's accessibility stuff
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: is camlorn like blind?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: there we go, download is coming.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes gentoox
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: wow and he plays mud well
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothing Noplacebo Tech: you'd be suprised who's vision impared on here...
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, even T9s
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothing Noplacebo Tech: i would hate to hear the spam myself...
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GentooX bows before Camlorn.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you'd think all the t9's in ba'al were blind, given how heavily they get dragged and use bots
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yeah... I suppose it's the same as sorting out text spam for the first time. You set it up and learn to ignore what you don't need to see/hear.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: All the same, I think it is a great thing that we have so many visually impaired players on Aard :)
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nogs, it's good
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: One thing you definitely can't get with WoW.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: shame we have so many intelligence-impaired tho
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: hey, i take offense to that ;)
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: There are those, Farkyss. And we have many politeness-impaired people, too :)
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, but we all put up with you anyway, farky :P
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what happened to all the blind people? everyone seems to visually impaired :\
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothing Noplacebo Tech: you should check out real life... the number of "logic impared" people is large.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Feral Farkyss bats his eyelashes innocently at Trurien.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i felt weird
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Dagnir: blind is blind, but visually impaired need not be blind.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so it could be anyone who needs glasses?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothing Noplacebo Tech: you don't have to be blind to need a screen reader
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: he has a point
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Dagnir: true, I suppose, but people who have double-vision, serious astigmatism or whatever. Those qualify too.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: trurien, actually that's not quite true
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: blind isn't blind, there are many degrees of blind
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothing Noplacebo Tech: blind is an old term for 100% visually impared i believe
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hence the terms "legally blind", which ranges from pretty sighted
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: old term?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I was referring to blindness as the generally-defined term where vision is totally impaired.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothing Noplacebo Tech: well it's not pc
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: true. but it's weird when people use that for people who are actually blind
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: like midget?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Nods, Noplacebo... it's not old, though.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: oh don't drag out p-c bollocks
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if i wanted P-C stuff, i'd get into government
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Dagnir: I suppose that's just a superset.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothing Noplacebo Tech: well you're here dealing with visually impared people, might be nice to know how they want to be treated
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: being politically correct doesn't improve of deteriorate your treatment of someone
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir nods at Feral Farkyss.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: id respect them, i dont think they want to be treated differently
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Noplacebo: I agree, but you don't have to be PC to be nice.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you can be as politically correct to someone as you like, but if you're a git to them, it makes no difference
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothing Noplacebo Tech: it's an attempt from the 90's to try and treat people in a more fair way. it's worth discussing.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothing Noplacebo Tech: defo not the end of the storey
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yeah, I think it should be left in the 90's :P It has its merits, but in general we should just be courteous.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if you're being PC, you realise PC also stands for "patronizing c**t" 
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: That's a good one, Farkyss. Never heard that before, but I'd have to agree it is applicable in some cases.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: and it's odd how one equals the other
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: some? how about al
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: all*
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: agreed
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothing Noplacebo Tech: yeah, so you have to discuss this stuff openly and understand why you're doing it. if it is just being patronising how can we do it better? try asking someone who's dealing with it and ask them (if they're comfortable) how they want to be treated.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Well, I guess if some visually-impaired people prefer the term to blindness, it would be good to use that term since they prefer it.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Otherwise it doesn't matter either way.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Nothing Noplacebo agrees!
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i'm not going to treat people differently just because they have something different
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Farkyss: agreed.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that's not equal treatment, if we're worried aboot offending people with disabilities and be ultra-pc caring all the time
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: shouldn't you be worrying about offending people -without- disabilities?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothing Noplacebo Tech: there's just a prejudice involved with saying someone is blind when they're not 100% impared. so needing a screen reader or accessability is something which we shouldn't make people explain why they need
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: its easier to just offend everyone
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Feral Farkyss is agreeing with that Gonf person again...
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothing Noplacebo Tech: and if that's your goal, that's your choice :)
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: this is tech channel, the point is to make someone feel like in moron while providing the solution
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: farky is just PC without the P...
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nogs, correct
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Not correct, mind.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i'm sorry, it's what abelinc said, and when is he ever wrong?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I believe he might have been referring to the other expansion of PC ;)
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: we'd already established the two were equivalent
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: And yes, he is wrong sometimes.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wouldn't want to define you by anything other than your own definition, tiger
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Only in certain contexts, not all.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You gasp as you realize what he did.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: say it ain't so!
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i call fat people fat and retarded people retarded. no reason to call them anything else (except by their name, of course :P )
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothing Noplacebo Tech: if you want to take it to debate i'm keen to discuss it further, let's clear off tech though
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: what do you call people from Poland?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: polaks
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yeah, I'm lazy though, debate's been off for some time now :P
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: not plumbers?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: No those would be Italians.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you have italian plumbers?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Especially the plumbers who rescue princesses on their off days :D
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you're a big fan of italians then
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Who me?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: yay!
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I have linux on the internet.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: now, the next little hurdle.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: got your wireless going?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: setting up persistance!
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: yes.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: have to use a linksys card borrowed from mom.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: setting up who?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: but yeah, it's working.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: persistance.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: what's that then?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I can't get the live thumbdrive to save stuff.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: settings, everything, all of it goes when I shut down the system.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: it's a live distro, and I haven't got persistance working yet.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: also, apt-get refuses to find packages I'd like it to find, so that needs fixing too:)
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: anyone know how to fix that particular problem?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I assume, just add a few archives?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: anybody know of a "linux" program that helps with dyslexia?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: helps how?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: helps with?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: phelp smith?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: search the repo
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: i don't know exactly, but if there's one written specifically for it... i have first hand experience of it myself.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: no, no idea
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: but something screenreader-esque i think, that reads the words as you type them
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: might be websites even
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: oh
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: that sort of helm
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: err help
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chosig chuckles politely.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: supposedly some sort of "read as you write" kind of software is the best, ie. that reads the words that you have written
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kojax Tech: everytime my stats and information comes up after enter I get a long range of numbers that says {stats}
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kojax Tech: how do i turn that off?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: type statmon
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: that
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to get rid of JUST that, type "statmon"...to get rid of that as well as {chan ch=tech}, type "tags off"
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kojax Tech: thanks
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: How would i make an alias that will use a portal in my inventory if i know the name such as portal *=[function], but that will also accept a variable if i set a variable for the area name in case i forget the portal name?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: MUSH if that helps
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: so is there a cheap way to attach multiple drives of varying sizes in one enclsure to a computer using either USB or ethernet?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: i want to keep them as separate drives, not buld a raid with them
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: i can buy multiple usb enclosures easy...
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: but for the price of something like a drobo, i can build a server that holds these drives...
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: can someone tell me how to install linux and how to use diskpart to set up the proper partition?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: i can't get persistance working, and it'll probably take as much time for me to install it as it will for me to figure that out.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: anyone, please, spare me from the evils of highly technical and broken instructions and the orca screen reader...
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: someone help, with linux install? please?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: what about it camlorn?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: i need to set up a partition.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I need to not lose data.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: and I need it to be free.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: dual boot?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: beyond that, not too sure. I tried diskpart in windows, but wasn't sure about how to set up the installer and such.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: yes. windows and linux.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: you need to back up your data then do the partitioning - that's the only real way to be sure you're not losing the data
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i have no experience in live repartitioning
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: well.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I can't afford the external hd.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: and I can't work off a boot cd for backing up.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i dont think so hargreaves.  ubuntu should be able to do it via its own interface during install
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i havent tried it though
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: No, I admit I'm being overly cautious, but if he loses the data, he's got the backup, if he doesn't lose any, then it's still all good
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: because, those don't have readers. i'd have to do something from the live pendrive I have, but I don't know what. persistance refuses to work, vehemently, so i can't save anything I do on it.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: also hesitant to use demoware because of what might happen to me being able to put it back on after 30 days.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: do you need linux to be on another partition?  coz ubuntu can co exist with windows. via wubi
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: can it read ntfs?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I heard there were problems with ntfs.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: its basically linux yes
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: http://wubi-installer.org/
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I don't necessarily need it on a different partition, I just don't want to break stuff. can it handle ntfs? 
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothing Noplacebo Tech: no problems with reading ntfs anymore with ubuntu
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: it can camlorn
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: good good.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: i'll run it, and see what happens. is wubi up at 9.04?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: you need to back up your data then do the partitioning - that's the only real way to be sure you're not losing the data
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: doh sorry about that
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: how did you do that?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: with the up arrow probably
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: im lost
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: well the up arrow and a cat
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: camlorn http://blog.taragana.com/index.php/archive/wubi-install-ubuntu-in-windows-partition/
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: i'm on the wubi site, reading the faq.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: i'm off now, to play in the land of complex installer thingies.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: you might want to read the blog too
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ologn Tech: what is the command to change how many lines are shown per screen?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: scroll
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ologn Tech: thank you :)
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: can anyone help me jump the last few hurdles in this linux installation? I've got it all working, and have a few questions.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Sure, Camlorn.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: not on from it, I have connectivity issues (solved), but some other problems still haunt me.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: apt-get.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: it doesn't seem able to find packages, at least not the ones I want.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Your connectivity issues have been solved?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: mainly epos and festival.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Ah, yes.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: yes, kind of. dell isn't supported, have to use mom's linksys card when she's not using it.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: ah yes, that means I'm just missing something blatently obvious?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Well, perhaps you should see if your repositories are correct.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: so, what's the blatently obvious thing I'm missing?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Nah, it's not blatantly obvious. :)
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: it's the default ubuntu distro.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: so, it should be correct, right?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: or what are the repositories?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: online list, or offline?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yep, but if you install from a CD, the default repository is set up to be just the CD.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: ok, understand one thing.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: You probably want the online list as well. Although I'm not sure why you don't have epos and festival on the CD.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: What was the command you used to get apt-get working?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I can not currently use the linux distro and be on the mud.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: sudo apt-get install <package>.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: it was working by default.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Well, that's the right command, but it could be called something else.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: when I type say, it says that I need package epos.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Let me double-check for you.. you're running stock 9.04, right?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I should have epos on the cd, just not instaled? yes, using that thingiemawhatsit whatumacallit.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: the thing...lol. wubi.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: that's it, wubi. i'm using wubi with the default iso.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: sorry, had to recall. took a min.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Ah, right. You're using wubi?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: yes.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: and orca.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: That means you can uninstall Ubuntu through the control panel, technically.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: It didn't work for me, but it's supposed to.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: that's the problem: gnome speech dispatcher is not being great, it'll just stop reading in the middle, or sometimes at the beginning of, text.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Anyhow, the package epos seems to exist, though it apparently doesn't support languages outside of Czech, Latin, Slovak and Vogon.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: o, worked without problems for me. seemlessly. and I am having all problems on my live distro too.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: ok, stupid question: vogon, what country speeks vogon?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I've never heard of vogon, outside hhg.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I've never heard of that language. Is it HHGG?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: well, the vogons were space aliens in hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Then it probably is just from there. (There's an Ubuntu translation for Klingon, so.)
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: if you've read it, I've read all the books in that.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: are you serious?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yeah, I am. 7 people work on it, I think. At last count.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: a ubuntu translation for klingon? who in their right mind would use that?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: No one, it's for fun. :) Windows would never have something like that :P
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: no, it wouldn't.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Well, it might, but not officially, anyway.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Anyhow, epos and festival right.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: so, vogon. I'll just say, no vogon grammar exists, it is described as screetching, until the bablefish is used.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: any luck?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I seem to be able to install epos and festival. Didn't, but I can.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: OK, let's take a look at your repositories.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: can't.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: that's why i'm having a problem.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Oh yeah, right. Well, you should, then. Later on.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: the package I need is the mud client, most of all, and I can't get it.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Let me see. Which mud client did you want?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: so, I can't be on linux and a mud, yet. I'm working on that.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: well, gnome-mud is supposed to work well with orca.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I like tt++, been using it for years now :)
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: but I still have to get orca's speech working.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Ah, graphical clients. I'm not too fond of those :P
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: tt++ is supposed to work, as well.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: tt++ is crap
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: what package is tt++?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: you on linux fiendish?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Fiendish: what do you like, then?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I use mushclient with Wine
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: tf is good, I never got around to configuring it though.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: well, it's gnome-mud or tt++, take your pick. I have only those two options, unless jfw runs under wine.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's not my pick
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: and I still have the orca speech problem. you don't by chance happen to use orca?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: use whatever you want. just know that tt++ is crap
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Ah, but that's the problem, I don't want my mud client to be graphical :) This way I can run it off SSH without forwarding X.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Camlorn: OK... to check your repos..
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: right...found command reference online, will try to import favorites from windows later. go ahead, how do I check my repositories?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I like less /etc/apt/sources.list.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: what's the <?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Let me try again..
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: less /etc/apt/sources.list.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: lol.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I put colour codes in there, helper habit :P
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: well.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: what's the less command?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: less is more
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: ah.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: wait.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: It allows you to read text files page by page, you can press space to scroll a page down, or the down key to read the next line.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: ah.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: fiendish, don't confuse me.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Of course, you can go back up.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: there's a huge difference between less and more.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: not that much difference
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: And he's right, too - more does essentially the same thing, only with a different default :P
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: and to add the correct repositories?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Hmm... would you prefer to do it in synaptic or on the command line?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: i know more is page by page, but the inputs are different, which is significant imho.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: ah, just use synaptic?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: that'd work. how do i do it on the command line, though?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I can probably figure out synaptic. do i have to know and manually enter web addresses?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yeah... I can't use Synaptic at the moment because X is not forwarded.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: No, you probably just have to decide which country repo you want to use.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: right. now, so, what's the command way?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: i'll probably remove xwindows sooner or later.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: if I can get brltty working, and say.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: or festival:)
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Are you in the US, by any chance?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: yes.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: any particular reason?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Maybe you should read this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: It's got more than I can say on Tech :)
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: ah! an idea! I'll do that when i leave live.gnome.org.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I found a command reference, too.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Good job :)
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Which one, might I ask?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: i've got multitasking and a nifty feature. one sec.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: you have got to be kidding me.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Hmm?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I can't get jaws to go to the address bar in firefox. I can give page title though.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: Linux Operating System and Linux Distributions
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Weird :P OK
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: it's a guide for newbie admins, I think.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: it's not firefox,, it's the reader.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I've written a short reference on a wiki somewhere, it's bound to have less stuff than this one.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I have a command to go to the address bar.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: What was it registering as for you?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I have enough sight left to benefit a bit from that:) we'll see, again. and the monitor thing?
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Ah, so you're sighted after all. I know someone in a similar situation to yours who uses fvwm. It's really simple, but very configurable, and you can really magnify the hell out of it.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Not sure about compatibility with screen readers, though.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: can't read, though.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: not enough sight for that.
T1/r6/2009-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: but I can see that something's open, which can be a big clue when you're just walking up to the computer, and before having the headphones on.
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boobarella Vicksen Tech: Does anyone know anything about an annoying virus (or trojan, etc) that causes annoying pop-ups and random sound advertisements to play ?
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: can i use more than 1 timer in zmud?
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: i mean, besides the tick timer
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: use #alarm
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: thanks, that works
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: np
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaiah Tech: is there a way to color background of a line? I would like to make my prompt have a background color to easier see new text since last command :)
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}N00bMaid! Jaenelle Tech: When getting a new laptop... do I want/need blue tooth? I have it now and I've never used it. :P But wondering if it is good to put the extra 20 bucks into?
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: guess it depends how likely you are to get a bluetooth phone or want to transfer something to someone with one
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}N00bMaid! Jaenelle Tech: my cell phone can send sms messages! ;)
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: I doubt you'd have much use for it without a bluetooth phone, or a least a friend with bluetooth ^^
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: but....for 20 bucks...If it was me I'd get bluetooth aswell....just in case =P
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: N00bMaid! Jaenelle nods.
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}N00bMaid! Jaenelle Tech: That doesn't seem that expensive, true. :)
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}N00bMaid! Jaenelle Tech: Any ideas what the differences in wireless cards are? I get to choose between 4 and their 'descriptions' are pretty unhelpful. :P Will just any wireless card word for connecting to the net? or?
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaiah Tech: you might want to quote the product names and people can explain about speeds
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murn Tech: If your internet speed is less than 100mbps, there's no difference, except perhaps durability.
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}N00bMaid! Jaenelle Tech: Dell WirelessT 1397 802.11b/g Mini Card [Included in Price]    Dell WirelessT 1510 802.11a/g/n Draft Mini Card [add $49]   Intel. WiFi Link 5100 802.11a/g/n Draft Mini Card [add $39]    Intel. WiFi Link 5300 802.11a/g/n Draft Mini Card [add $59]
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}N00bMaid! Jaenelle Tech: Debating if speeds are likely to increase much in the next 4-5 years the thing will last me, so if it would be worth it to upgrade it now. :P
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: I'd go for the Inter 5100, but mostly because Intel has good Linux drivers
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: intel*
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}N00bMaid! Jaenelle Tech: hmmm... thanks :)
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Tintin++ users: is it possible to run a concurrent session in another window?
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: as long as you are using a differant .config file yes
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Dagas: interesting ... as in, if it were another class, maybe?
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: no just a second config file... you know you createe on to get things startecreate another and have it call the ./tt++ in another window :)
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Hmm... a different .tin file, then?
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Bit confused.
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: yes...
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: on emeralds site there's a MMC speedwalk plugin. Is that mushclient? if so how do I import the information into MUSH?
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: thats mudmaster/console
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: Oh, I'm looking for a good speedwalk script thats easy to update, any?
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashfall Tech: anyone know why letters sometimes open differnt things on zmud?
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Livonya Tech: give an example
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashfall Tech: sometime when i use q key, it gives me abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz 0123456789
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashfall Tech: or when i hit l , sometimes opens log window
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashfall Tech: t opens trigger window
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashfall Tech: not everytime, just in middle
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: tried turning off triggers/aliases?
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: ummmm maybe your pressing down the alt key
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashfall Tech: alt keys are disabled and off
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashfall Tech: i'lltry triggers
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: what do you mean "disabled"
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashfall Tech: my key board allows you to disable a key 
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashfall Tech: so you dont use it accidentally
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: well it seems you are using it
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Livonya Tech: well ctrl+l is shortcut for log and ctrl+t is shortcut for trigger
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashfall Tech: maybe it's ctrl button. i'll take a look at that, thanks
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: anyone know why this would pop a error in error checking in zmud editor... it is the ' that does it....
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: #MXP %ansi( cyan)Lines in File%char( 32) %ansi( cyan): %ansi( white)%filesize( 1) <send 'notepad c:\zmud\aardwolf\info\aq\%zonenum( )_aq.txt'>Edit</send>
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaiah Tech: I need help with catch. anyone available? should I just put my explanation?
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faerlun Tech: anyone using zmud on vista?
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faerlun Tech: how can i remove {chan ch=gossip} from zmud?
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: tags off
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faerlun Tech: thank you :)
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faerlun Tech: much and much betetr :D
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: Ping time to the mud: Minimum = 1771ms, Maximum = 9339ms, Average = 4854ms
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: Sent = 13, Received = 10, Lost = 3 (23% loss)
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: HappyDog Madcatz goes, "Whee!"
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lozwa Tech: Who wanna play SC
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lozwa Tech: Finally found a bloody VPN program that works
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Honestly, Abelinc just uses the VPN client built into the OS
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lozwa Tech: Yeah I tried that on my buddys computer the option to connect to a VPN is grayed out
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: permissions issue
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lozwa Tech: Yeah this program is called garena and it allows you to tunnel and play with tons of people just like u were all networked
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lozwa Tech: pretty easy 2 use
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Ok, when i wear a portal and enter it manually it takes me right to beginning of area, but my alias to reequip after i use it and such starts a speedwlak elsewhere...any ideas what is going on?(MUSH)
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: And only on some portals....
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: anyone using the the plugin to display chats in its own window? whats the name of the plug?
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: aardwolf_chats ??
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: for mush
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaiah Tech: yes minus the "s"
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: nod. just noticed that.
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: thanks
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: actually I have the file saved as aardwolf_chats so bleh.
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: By the way, in case you've missed it, Windows 7 RC is out and available for download (for free!)...
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and still shit
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Actually, it's not. :) Have you used it?
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: free shit
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i've seen the required specs for it
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: oh god... another awful operating system being released before the bugs of the current system are worked out.... o.O ... 
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: And remember, tech is no curse.
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Drachon . o O ( will they ever learn? )
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: It actually seems quite stable.
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: lies.
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Windows 7 is actually VERY stable. Nothing like Vista at all.
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Heal uncurse
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Does anyone use MUSH and portals?
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and completely incompatible with everything thats gone before
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: how much resources does it use compared to vista?
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and has much higher system requirements
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: much more, drachon
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fibo gets his boot-disk handy.
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: lol
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: of course.. it will want to live in your home and eat your food next.... 
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: If anyone can help me set up my wacked out aliases corrects please send me a tell
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Actually, it doesn't. I'm using less resources on Windows 7 than I was on Windows Vista.
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: I have it running in a VirtualBox VM with only 1 Gig memory, I wouldn't try that with Vista.
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: correctly*
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Before you talk about something, Tigernuts, perhaps you should try it.
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: think... "please! allow our microsoft technician to live at your home and address ANY and ALL of your software problems/needs/desires!!"
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fibo bats at his mouse, its trying to eat him.
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: ok. now compare RC 7 to xp RE: resources.
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i don't need to try it
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it totally fails to replace xp
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I was an XP person too. Then I got a new computer. Hated Vista. Went for Windows 7. I will not go back to Windows XP now. ;)
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Its an adventure in radical unecessary User Interface change. But it does seem stable.
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: does 7 come with free spyware?
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: No extra charge
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Heh. The only complaint I have about Windows is the 'forced' installation of Windows Media Player.
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: But seriously, I've been using it without problems at all. Computer's running smoother than it ever has.
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: and messenger, and quicktime, and msn explore. comon.
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the two problems you see straight away are the minimum system requirements, and the fact that a 32bit edition exisdts
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Tigernuts: You can get the 64bit for free, too.
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's not the point
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You have no basis for a point, either. You can't say a product is crappy when you haven't tried it yourself.
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yes i can
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: whats the cleanest operating system out there? I want to ctrl-alt-del and see like 5 programs running in my task manager, anyone?
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Fibo: Windows 3.x. :P
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: I have an alias to use/wear/enter/re-dual/ portal but when i use it as an area name i.e. wearportal *=get 51 @portalbag/n remove second/n enter/n dual @dualed/n put %1 @Portalbag. <--that one works but when i recall it in another alias i.e. falcovnia=wearportal 'crystal ball'. it works but does some annoying speedwalk afterwards
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: would you quit arguing long enough to answer an honest question?
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if fails on the streamlined performance and required equipment front, and it fails on the "move to 64bit os" front
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Ubuntu is the VolksOS
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: At any rate, doesn't really matter what you nor I think about. I put that up there just for a reminder for those who actually do use it and have no problems with it. I know several other people who are using it without issues. I think, Tigernuts, you just like to argue anything. :)
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: on the contrary, it might be available, and it might be being used by many people, still doesn't change the fact that it's failed on two of it's original briefs
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: How do you know it's failed, though?
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i've just told you why
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Yes, you told me why. You didn't tell me how you knew, or where you got your information from. ;)
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: technical briefing from the team developing the kernel in late 2005
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: OMG! 2005! 4 years ago.
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Your mom told me 4 years ago that you were still a virgin, so obviously you're still a failure on the lady-front.
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: when they touted it as the endpoint for migration to 64bit after m$ wimped out of making vista 64bit only
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: See how stupid that sounds to rely on information from 4 years ago? :P
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Wow
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's been in development that long and longer
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus pats Tigernuts on his head.
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Best thing I like about Windows 7 is the Virtual XP mode. :D
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: dunno about you, but if i had given a programming team a set of design parameters and they came back 4 years later and had completely ignored them, i'd be quite annoyed
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: virt xp mode?
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Yeah, Ozzy.
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Tigernuts: It happens all the time. Doesn't mean things won't change. :)
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it'll be another vista then, intolerably high system requirements, intolerably poor performance on entry level systems, intolerable amount of bloat
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: And by the way, you're full of crap, too. Windows 7 development didn't even start until 2006.
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it started in fall 2005
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Based on what information? Information you're pulling out your ass?
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: He works for M$?
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: about system requirements? microsoft press release on the official system requirements for windows 7
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I'm talking about it being another vista. 'intolerably high system requirements, intolerably poor performance...' etc etc. I'd like to see how you can form a conclusion as such without as much as even trying it. ;)
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i refer you to the press release i pointed out some moments ago
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: and back to 4 year old information
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: i love circles
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the press release was a couple weeks ago
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Provide a link? :P
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: http://www.tomshardware.com/news/windows-system-requirements-hardware-rc,7701.html
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're going to claim it as being a M$ press release, then don't use a tom's hardware link...use http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/installation-instructions.aspx
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tom's hardware as a source sucks balls
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus snickers with you about your shared secret. 
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: picking nits :-)
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: ewww
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Honestly, Abelinc runs off to cite wikipedia
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: may well be m$'s last monolithic OS release, too
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: With advanced technology, Tigernuts, you should come to expect greater system requirements. Hell, video games are now requiring better computers. Why shouldn't OS's?
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: charneus, better programming techniques minimize system requirements for comparable functions?
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: because they had not produced an operating system to replace XP for netbooks, mostly
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and developing worlds markets
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Based on outside sources, many tech blogs are stating that Windows 7 could definitely be the equivalent of Windows XP. Better security and whatnot.
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 7's minimum specs renders it unworkable on most netbooks already out in the workplace, and most pc's purchased before 2005
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Your point? XP was the same way for most pcs created 5 years before its time.
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they have new markets to worry about
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they're going to need a 7-lite
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: MediocreSloth is a "joke" -- a big firm unable to condense all the desired functions into a small "footprint"
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Xyliz: You're a joke. :)
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: but we'll let you develop that one, i'm going to bed
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: if I disable speech in main aard window will it still show up in my chats window via Mushclient?
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Have fun, Tigernuts.
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: No! You can't stop now! http://xkcd.com/386/
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: when Microsoft goes bankrupt -- no bailout!
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus pats Xyliz on her head.
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: is there anyway to open a new window inside explorer, or is mozzilla god?
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mad Hermit Starky Tech: if you get a new version yes
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: IE does have tabs, yes.
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mad Hermit Starky Tech: if you have an old IE no
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: But Mozilla is GOD. ;)
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mad Hermit Starky Tech: firefox is god :P not mozilla heh
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: I believe a new version of explore would make me have to  tell them that i uh... got windows xp legally...
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Well, Firefox, but most of Mozilla's products are excellent. Now if only Firefox could come out with an OS. ;)
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: furzilla it is.
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: So download Windows 7 for free, legally.
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: I believe I saw a conversation about 7 earlier, bug free?
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Heh. No OS is ever going to be bug free.
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Unless Oladon writes it!
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: I don't want to learn any more code man.
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: ... You don't have to learn code to install an OS.
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Heh. Oladon should write for Microsoft! :P
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon twitches nervously.
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: correction *I have to learn code in order to clean buggy wugs
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft spanks Apprentice Oladon playfully.
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Not really. I haven't run into any bugs in Windows 7, except maybe the disappearing start menu. Hmmm.
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Maybe it'll clear itself with the new RC download.
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I have about 55 minutes left to finish downloading Windows 7.
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Windows 7 is afflicted by the big bloat ... (note that dinosaurs became extinct)
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Xyliz: You don't even know what you're talking about. :)
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Then again, Xyliz, I highly doubt you even think for yourself, considering you tend to jump on bandwagons and follow whatever 'belief' others who have jumped a bandwagon follows.
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Minus the s on the follows.
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: I like bandwagons.
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: finally got linux fully functional!
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: now to install fun stuff, like mud clients!
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyranno Ruckus Tech: so what the hell is it with some zmud scripts not compiling in cmud?
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: How do I spell check inside hotmail? I'm trying to write an e-mail.
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cmud isn't zmud...syntax differences
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: hotmail...is it web based or on local computer?
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: web
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: yes, gmud and zmud scripts don't work.
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyranno Ruckus Tech: that serious of a a diff?
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: congrats camlorn
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes ruckus
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: the answer: switch to firefox and use it's built-in spellchecker.
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Ruckus: Not really. Most zMUD scripts will work with CMUD.
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyranno Ruckus Tech: crapola
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: dios mio.
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: or use word to spellcheck it.
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gotta tweak, not rewrite
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Some can be used directly. Others, you need to fix the syntax. CMUD is a bit stricter with its syntaxes.
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyranno Ruckus Tech: tweak I can do, that's encouraging
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so it's not starting from scratch...also, check out davos.aardcharn.com for some pre-done cmud scripts
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: o yeah, for those who don't know, I have linux working finally.
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Camlorn: You should probably add 'For those who actually care.' Which will consist of one person: you.
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: well, gentoox is congradulating me, via this channel.
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyranno Ruckus Tech: bahahahahaa
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: instead of tells, and abelinc also has helped to get it working, as has trurien and about 5 or 6 others.
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Doesn't mean they care. ;)
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: well, they also deticated significant time to it, indicating that at least, they don't not care.
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: btw camlorn, for a command-line reader, "speakup" is one I've recently heard about from a blind Aard player who MUDs from linux
T1/r6/2009-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: friggin strtonum...  AWK is weird when you bounce back and forth between it and Lua.
T1/r6/2009-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Landrin Tech: please tell me there's someone on here that is competent in Java programming, I'm having a bad time with and actionPerformed()....
T1/r6/2009-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Landrin Tech: an, not and...
T1/r6/2009-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: sorry dont know java if it were c++ i might be able to help
T1/r6/2009-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Landrin Tech: i'm supposed to make this program that uses a JPanel and JApplet to determine if an entered year is a leap year returning true or false when the button is clicked, i'm got all of it but the statement that reads the integer from the button named Click and invokes the method isLeapYear()
T1/r6/2009-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Landrin Tech: ok, it was a long shot, just figured I'd see if there was anyone on with java experience, gotta get back to my assignments, later
T1/r6/2009-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: 1 original xbox controller with usb adaptor and xp driver, the freeware joystickcursor to map buttons to keys, and a zmud auto_set_target script = mudding with an xbox controller :P
T1/r6/2009-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monsieur Dorleac Tech: nods, i know a few people that do that
T1/r6/2009-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Stick it Inicus stares at the sky.
T1/r6/2009-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: left_thumb=n|s|e|w, x=d y=u, a=kill_target(or combat spell), b=spellup, white=scan(or survey), black=look
T1/r6/2009-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: oh and ltrig=healpot, rtrig=movepot :P
T1/r6/2009-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Use the keyboard for speedwalks?
T1/r6/2009-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nod... wanna make start pull up a picklist though
T1/r6/2009-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: nice ;)
T1/r6/2009-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Could you assign the back button to it?
T1/r6/2009-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Or Select, whatever it is
T1/r6/2009-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: still have start, back and right thumbstick and both thumbstick buttons
T1/r6/2009-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Stick it Inicus nods.
T1/r6/2009-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: As what though?
T1/r6/2009-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: A does "k @target" or in combat does "@sattack"
T1/r6/2009-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: I pictured it as hitting the back button to bring up a list of speedwalks, thumbstick to scroll, start button to run the speedwalk
T1/r6/2009-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: diagonals are toooo touchy on the thumbstick to make diags up/down though :(
T1/r6/2009-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Stick it Inicus nods.
T1/r6/2009-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: nods, that they are ><
T1/r6/2009-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Could you make the thumbstick buttons up/down?
T1/r6/2009-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: aint used to pressing em.. so awkward
T1/r6/2009-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Stick it Inicus goes, "Hmmmm."
T1/r6/2009-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: x=down y=up was easier
T1/r6/2009-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Could you do that with a 360 controller with a usb plugin? =P
T1/r6/2009-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: prolly :P
T1/r6/2009-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: I'm curious now =(
T1/r6/2009-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: there's even a 360 controller for windows, anyway :P
T1/r6/2009-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: dunno... XP recognizes the original xbox controller
T1/r6/2009-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: got it plugged in with this $3 dealextreme "universal usb converter"
T1/r6/2009-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Stick it Inicus shrugs helplessly.
T1/r6/2009-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: I'll try to hook up my 360 controller when I get home.  Never even thought about it
T1/r6/2009-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: does xbox original, ps2, and gamecube controllers
T1/r6/2009-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: I mean, I hook my keyboard up to the 360 to type messages.. just never thought about hooking the controller to the pc
T1/r6/2009-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: xna can use 360 controller
T1/r6/2009-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: can make interface with that
T1/r6/2009-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: xna?
T1/r6/2009-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}N00bMaid! Jaenelle Tech: It's microsoft's game making studio.
T1/r6/2009-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Oh
T1/r6/2009-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: its c# game engine, but you can use it to communicate with the mud client i suppose :P
T1/r6/2009-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: if windows sees the controller... http://www.download25.com/install/joystickcursor-control-tool.html
T1/r6/2009-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Thanks, I'll have to check it out when I get home tonight
T1/r6/2009-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: here is an alias for zmud to make triggers that set "@target" ... http://ozzy.pastebin.com/f3dcdb7ba
T1/r6/2009-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: needs a lastkills trig to grab the mob name and level
T1/r6/2009-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: and mapper for class names... Auto|target|150|areaname_from_mapper
T1/r6/2009-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: No idea how to do any of that, but I'll mess with it later.  I use MUSH, but I'd use zmud for a bit to try to mess around with an xbox controller
T1/r6/2009-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Extremely powerful results of the solidify spell will excite the molecules of the object, causing the object to hum if it does not do so already.
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: how do you get to display all the lines in say spells other, if i wanna capture the output?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: me
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Hello
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: hi
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jokerette Tech: Greetings from Mother Russia
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: I need some help with my installation
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: installation of?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xephrin Tech: flash
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Aardwolf
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Yes on my flash drive
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xephrin Tech: oh, flash drive. thought you meant Adobe Flash player, hah
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: No I need help with my flash
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Flash Drive I mean
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: what about it?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: is it a trivia game?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: No
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: I installed Aardwolf on my flash drive, but when I go to a different PC it says that I have changed my PC and then Aardwolf won't load up.
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Oops ignore the carrying thing
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Do you know why it does that?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Do you see what I am having issues with?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xephrin Tech: not sure. I can try it myself, hold on
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what's the exact error message?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: what client are you using?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Wll I would have to exit and chance PC. But basically it says I see you have changed PCs. And then I get a pop up and t hen I get tips, and Aardwolf won't load. And when I maually load it, I don't get the map, stats or the chat, only the command box
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: wll?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: I meant Well
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Like it's really hard to make it work everytime I get onto a new PC, I have to re-install Aardwolf everytime onto my flash drive
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xephrin Tech: you can load the other worlds-BigMap, Chats, Map, Stats are all in \MUSHclient\worlds\Aardwolf folder
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: what exactly is your client? you need a client to be able to play aardwolf
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xephrin Tech: he's using the mushclient one I think
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Yes the one the site gave me
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Is there a better one?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xephrin Tech: go to File -> Open World, then go to that folder I said and load all the stuff manually. see if that works
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: ahhh so you are using mushclient?  mushclient has registry info...  when you change PC, those info dont go with you
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: So what do I do, get a diferent client or change the registry location?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: run your mushclient, click -> file global preferences -> under worlds
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: alright and then what
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: choose your default world directory to point to your <mush in flash drive directory>\worlds
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: and in the plugin tab, point your plugin directory to <mush in flash drive directory>\plugins
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: you might want to try that in your logging tab too for the logging directory
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: you have to do that every time your flash drive mounts on a different drive letter
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: How do I make my flash drive dyamic since I assume the flash drive won't always be the "E" drive
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: 0h 20
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: -0h 20
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: typos
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Alright what I am lost now?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: My drive usually assigns as "E" but what if it doesn't
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Should I jsut use a different Client?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Like one that can be installed on a flash drive easily?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: hmmm....
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Are you using MUSH?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: ima do a campaign ill get back to you
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: im using mush
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Dang...
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Alright
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: I think I'm just going to re-install it every time until I can figure this out
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xephrin Tech: if you need portability without being tech-savvy, there's a flash player and java client
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nefertiti Tech: zmud will work from a flash drive without problems afaik
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: im using mush on linux.. :)
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xephrin Tech: they're both posted on the website
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: I am a PC tech but I am having issues with this
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Alright I'll be back i'm going to try this
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: -10
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: barely holding on
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: OmegaKnight how are you doing
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: OmegaKnight you there?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: alternatively you can mount your flash drive on a specific drive letter each time
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: you are almost tiering
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: oops
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: Nefertiti whas is LD?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parzifal Tech: does the aard mush client rely on you having a specific prompt?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no. it uses tags
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parzifal Tech: none of my stat stuff is updating
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: do you have tags on?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parzifal Tech: probably not, how do i turn them on?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: help tags
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parzifal Tech: kk thanks
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, and statmon has to be on
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Alright I figured it out
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: can possibly share with us omega?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: I was here before with the flash drive issue
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: yup i remember
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah. you still start typing mid-sentence :P
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Sorry
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GentooX falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Basically
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: basically what?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GentooX laughs out loud.
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: I have to load the map, stats, chat, and big map everytime I start MUSH up
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: or you can just write a small script that does that for you. or edit the existing one
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: really where may I get this scrpit since I would really like to have it
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not sure how, but i'm pretty sure mush has a capability to do that
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: in the world file. at launch - do this, that etc. not familiar with mush, but i imagine it should be able to do that
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Yeah I think I have to change the locations of the files
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: actually, it does, since it fails to load the stuff you need because the path has changed. right?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: maybe you can use relative paths instead of full path in the config
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: sec, i'll install mush and check it out myself
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: I assume so, I will try later today, I really have to level now, my friend is 16 already
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Alright
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: I'll wait for your response
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hmm. the config uses full path and i have no idea where and how mush stores that stuff
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm also hung over, so i'm not much help
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: great lol I'm ok with just manual start
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hmm. doesn't loading the .mcl world file work for you?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: what version of mush are you using?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothing Noplacebo Tech: is much available from any ubuntu repositories?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: OmegaKnight if you are using v4.40 your preferences are saved in sqlite database... if you can get a schema of if you can change the value in there
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: or you can download sqlitebrowser from http://sqlitebrowser.sourceforge.net/ and open the db
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Alright sorry I got dissconnected
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: So what did you find out tech guy?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothing Noplacebo Tech: anyone else tried using papaya?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: i don't use people :(
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: isn't that a fruit?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: finger papaya?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothing Noplacebo Tech: aparently it's also a mud client...
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: My "chat echo off" command isn't working.
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: chats echo off
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: It has an "s"?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yes
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Alright that's weird
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Interesting, Bast can you help me with a flash drive installation of the MUSHclient
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: the problem with flash drives is you don't know what letter they will be
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: that is true
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: so what can I do about it?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Or is there nothing possible
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: running 4.4?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: try meddling with sqlite it i have try using relative paths but it wont work
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: 4.4 MUSHclient?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: omegaknight there is a solution though...  
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: What solution?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: create a shortcut that is in the same dir as mushclient.exe, set the working dir to ./, then edit the sqlite prefs and do relative paths?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: working dir?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: then run mushclient from that shortcut
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: the start in directory in the shortcut, sorry
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Right now my MUSHclient is on "E" drive and in the folder MUSHclient
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: if ./ doesn't work, then set the start in directory to the hard path to whereever the mushclient.exe is
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Alright, so it would be new shortcut ./mushclient/mushclient.exe?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: create multiple dirs each one with shortcut target directory is mushclient installation.   and start in directory is your dirs... each dir will correspond to your new global preferences
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OmegaKnight buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i made that work...
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OmegaKnight bursts into tears.
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: This is too complicated for me atm
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: in the mushclient directory, create a new shortcut Target: mushclient.exe - Start in: ./
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: start mushclient from that shortcut and see where it puts mushclient_prefs.sqlite
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: I am in the root of my flash, I go to the MUSHclient folder and creat a shortcut in there?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it should be in the same directory
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yeap
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: and the shortcut goes to ./mushclient/mushclinet.exe?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: then open the mushclient_prefs.sqlite and change all the paths that are hard coded to ./<stuff under mushclient dir>
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: or is the ./ supposed to be my driver letter?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: the ./ is suppose to be ./
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: ok give me a second
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it means start this program in the same dir as this shortcut
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: um it says it cannot be found
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: I guess I jsut have to re-install everytime I want to play on my flash drive
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: ok, back, was doing a quest
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Oh ok I see lol
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: try leaving start in blank to begin with and just put mushclient.exe as the target and see what happens
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: back in the mushclient folder I make a short cut and for the file path I put just mushclient.exe?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yeap
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: File cannot be found
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: It is not, by the way, installed on the PC
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Should I install it on the PC?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: darn, you can't use relative paths in shortcuts
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: nope
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: that defeats the purpose of trying this :)
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Of course! So what to do?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: for now, put the full path to the mushclient.exe
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: So I browse the path?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yeah, in explorer, just right click on mushclient.exe and create shortcut
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Alright
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Done
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: edit the shortcut and put ./ in the start in part
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Alright my MUSHclient crashed
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Let me retry
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bast sighs.
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: if it crashes again, then don't put anything in the start in and try again
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Alright
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: and you started it from the shortcut?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: No
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: All of the slashes go \ not /
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: So is it ./ or .\\?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: ./*
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: sorry .\ is correct, (I am use to using linux)
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Linux is sweet!
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: I change the target and start in right?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: target is the full path to mushclient.exe, start in is .\
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: so I leave the target as E:\\MUSHclient\\MUSHclient.exe?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: that is find for now
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: fine that is
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Alright wait
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Says that it is not valid
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: only 1 \ instead of 2?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: the start in is E:\\MUSHclient
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: it adds extra slashes for some reason
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: ok, leave start in blank for now
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Alright, how about the target?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it should be fine
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: So now what?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: is there a mushclient_prefs.sqlite in the mushclient directory?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: The file name is mushclient_presfs,sqlite?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yeap
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Right in the MUSHclient folder. Nope there isnt't
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: ok, run mushclient from the shortcut
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: It started
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: under file->Global Preferences, what directory does it say at the bottom of the worlds tab?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: E:\\MUSHclient\\worlds\\
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: ok, close out that mushclient
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Done
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: and see if there is a mushclient_prefs.sqlite in the e:\\musclient directory
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Still nothing...
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: is there a mushclient_prefs.sqlite anywhere on the E:\\ drive
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Weird...there isn't...anywhere
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: on the c drive somewhere?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: How could it be on the C drive if it's installed only on the E drive?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: because of the working directory, we are trying to get that to change to e:\\mushclient
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: omega, what page did you download MUSH from, and when?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: From your guys' website
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Yesterday
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you're not using the version Bast is talking about
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the version on Aard's website is old
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OmegaKnight buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: aahh, then that would be why
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: what os are you using OmegaKnight?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Alright I have to go becuase I am in school, but I will be back to make these correcrtion
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Windows XP
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: check out this thread on portable MUSH: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=7713
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Alright I'll be back
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: alright, we'll figure it ou :)
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: out
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: those were created on the registry era abelinc.
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gentoox, exactly
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: global preferences are now saved in sqlite database
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not in his, no
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: he is using version 4.40 
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: not if he downloaded the one from the aard website
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: he said last time he did...*chuckles*
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heck, not even if he downloaded from MUSH's download page
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: true... its a hidden download page
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: time to break out the xp vm and see what I can do
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: bast what version are you gonna try?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: 4.4
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: can't really do it from the registry version
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: at version 4.4 when i changed the prefs in sqlite for root of default directories to .\ , i started in system32 ... where
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: the only problem is going to be that window positioning won't save because it is saved into the registry from whatever framework nick is using
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: at version 4.4 when i changed the prefs in sqlite for root of default directories to .\ , i started in system32 ... weird
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i have found a work around though
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: it is describe in here http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=9260
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: solution is different directories for each drive letter
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: assign to his flash drive
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: -20
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Li'l Bunny Zhalt Tech: Anyone have experience trying to configure Xorg to work well with HDTV resolutions on a normal nvidia 7600 series gfxcard? is it even possible?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: -10
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Ok I got the new MUSHclient
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: -20
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: what version?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: The newest one.
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: there is a published version and a hidden newer one, so im asking you. please reply with the version number
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: 4.37 I believe since my installer says mushclient 437
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: its not the newest version. lemme find the link for you
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: look at this website http://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/PortableMushclient
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I just put a link to the announcement forums where you can download the newest version
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: How do I downoad the SQlite thing?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: weird i definitely did the same thing except for the sqlite browser i use the command line and it keep showing as a system32/world..etc
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: go to that page and click "sourceforge project pages" link, the the download link, then the download link again, then the zip file with win in it
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i mean \
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: following those directions, I renamed the folder that mushclient was in to 10 new names and it always loaded the right stuff
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I didn't try from the command line, I just double clicked in explorer
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: I can't download the SQlite thing
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i understand...its just weird in my case.. no worries.. :) its good to know it can be done
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: omega: why can't you download it?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: go directly to this link: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=87946&package_id=91778&release_id=414746
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: and click the one that has "win" in the filename
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Ok I downloaded it
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: BRB
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Ok I am on version 4.37
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Gentoo, I bet I know why it did that, the sqlite executable converted .\ to its current working dir before updating the table
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: but working dir is the same as mushclient dir
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: sqlite3.exe inside mushclient dir
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: So I need to have 4.4 not 4.37?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yes, install aardmush, then install 4.4
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: dang I need to find a 4.4 download
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: maybe it expands to absolute path? hehe. shame... need more effort :)
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: OmegaKnight http://www.gammon.com.au/files/mushclient/mushclient440.exe
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Be right back again, have to install 4.4 over aardwolf version
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Ok I have installed 4.4 OVEr the aardwolf client
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: then follow basts instruction
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: And this time I do have the SQlite file in the dir this time
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: at http://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/PortableMushclient
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: weasel
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: george
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: sorry
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Man something else is wrong now
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: I am looking at the SQlite file, but under the prefs tab, there is nothing there that is put in the instructions
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: are you on the browse data tab?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Now I am
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: now use the tables drop down to select the prefs table
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Oh I see now, alright I have to go edit all that stuff now
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i hope he backsup his file should something happen
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: You guys...
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: ^_^
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: ...IT WORKED!
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: grats :)
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Man if only he where he so I could thank him to all hell...he saved me so much time in school!
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: he is here, send him a tell
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: It's 'Bast' right?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: yes
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yeap
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Alright
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i where read sighs
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir nods at GentooX.
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir nods quietly to himself.  What a wacko.
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: what the hell did i just say?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: To whom?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: to this channel
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: i where read sighs
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Nothing
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i dont know what that means
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: me either
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: I didn't see it I was too busy learning
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Yes that means nothing
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i was ummh very sleepy perhaps dreaming...its 4am
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: sorry 5, cant even read the clock right
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Go to bed then?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: supposed to be for tech channel
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Get someone else to cover you?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: ok guys that last message is suppose to be for aescretia.
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you really are tired
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: last cp mob
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Gentoo really go to bed man
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: one more mob
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Alright
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: bast and now a gquest
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyranno Ruckus Tech: any mac users out there using parrallels?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tyranno Ruckus starts to hear the faint sounds of a cricket chirping.
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: I like mac commercials, does that count?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyranno Ruckus Tech: not really, no
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondy Tech: macs are 95% better virus protected
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: I don't like Mac...it sucks
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyranno Ruckus Tech: I just need to navigate my way through this windows bs so's it can connect through my mac airport
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyranno Ruckus Tech: telnet suckw
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Not really, Armondy... only because they're obscure, and they're becoming less and less obscure as more people use them.
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyranno Ruckus Tech: suchs even
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyranno Ruckus Tech: dammit...sucks
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: macs are now just overpriced PC's runninx linux :P
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyranno Ruckus Tech: macs are certainly overpriced
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: agree ozzy
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GentooX is agreeing with that Ozzy person again...
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon nods at Ozzy.
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: My Mac is a real Mac :D
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Before they switched to Intel chipsets
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: oh, you mean outdated :P
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: It's only 12 years old...
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon grins mischievously.
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: o you mean archaic
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that aint a computer... it's a fossil
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: I'll have you know that it runs OS X /and/ debian.
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: and i felt bad 'cause my computer is 6 years old
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ozzy breaks out his C-64
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: hmmmm... dictionary difference
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondy Tech: breaks out the Atari 2600
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: opps
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: 1200XL ftw
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon breaks all your heads.
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i still own working C-64, 128, 1200xl, 99-4/a, adam, an SX-64 and several others all in storage
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondy Tech: fine fine -- breaks out Pong
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Whee, Pong.
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondy Tech: the processer in this >> old mac
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: only one Apple... it's a fishtank now though
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyranno Ruckus Tech: amiga!
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: http://www.theapplecollection.com/Collection/MacAquarium/IgorMusial.shtml
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: here in japan its an art...you cant find non-moaners in here
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amigan Tech: you can guess my computer :P
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Falcon Northwest
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Kaypro 10?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: E-machine
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: those are the Hyundai's of computers :P
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: throw away boxes
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: eMachine... wonder if the ot their buisness plan from Packard Bell
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: emote Stomps on a Mac
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: My Mac will stomp on you.
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: That didn't work
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OmegaKnight buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: 333mhz PPC... you can't scratch that.
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon roars in victory over her fallen enemy.
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i'll stick with PearPC when i wanna check out something on a Mac :P
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ozzy snickers with Apprentice Oladon about their shared secret.
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Guys?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: yes?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: YUS?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Um the shop keepers can buy things from me anymore...
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dazed Tech: read helpfiles shopkeeps can run out of money
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: exactly try clan shopkeepers they have more money
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: 2e of recall is a good one
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: there are also things they wont buy like auctioned ones
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: this isn't tech related
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: oh yeah sorry for answer...
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: The newbie guys told me to go here
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: we have a question/answer channel
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: "are too poor to" instead of "can", and drop the "Um"
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dazed Tech: actually no they didn't i've been reading both channels, you asked in newbie no one answered.
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: AND shopkeepers simply dislike players with pretentious names like Omegaknight. Thats the TECHNICAL explanation for Fiendy.
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: you cant blame him, tech guys are more helpful *cheers*
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish can and does.
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dazed Tech: laugh
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: (Helper) Scars: Shaiah, I'd suggest turning on the Tech channel and asking for solutions there.
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: is your name Shaiah?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: No, but he told me to come here
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: No he didn't, OmegaKnight.
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: He suggested
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Not to you.
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Oh man is it late
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Your name was mentioned nowhere.
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: OmegaKnight did you go to through the academy?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: looks to me like he was talking to someone named Shaiah.
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Sorry I am so tierd
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: I wish I could tier.
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: MY TURN hit the bed
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Ok lets pretend that never happened
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: 3 completed quests are required to graduate from the Academy
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Hey guys what's up?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Sorry, I have it logged, OmegaKnight.
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Thanks...
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Imma just gunna go back to being quiet...
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: omegaknight you do the academy goal its quiet educating, and helps you arountd the game
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dazed Tech: don't be quiet just notice where you ask what... that academy helps a lot i'm a brand new player only been here less than a week.
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: And i've been here one whole day
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: He's done it, except he's asked for answers along the way. :P
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: generally people wont answer obvious questions learned from the academy
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: True
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dazed Tech: mindless ramble i'm out sorry to bother you guys on tech.
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: That is so true, but I did go back to a couple of them to figure it out
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Well, he hasn't fully graduated from the Academy, but he's on the last task. :P
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: 2 more quests
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i suggest going back and read carefully during idle times.. while waiting for a quest
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: That's what I did it recap on geo and the social studies
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: when you start to find the going tough (likely before level 100): two choices -- struggle to level 201 and remort into a no-area-level-locks Hell,   OR   restart at level 1 and qsit at level 1 awhile till you are decently equiped and more experienced, then level slowly, exploring the areas safely
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: I see, I would prolly go to being a ninja or a mage
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: perhaps do both options
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: one of particular interest is health training... :)
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Prolly start with restart then stay
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: ninja or a Psion
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athys Tech: can anyone point me to link on either how to script with mush or a collection of script be it on a forum or what not
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: www.mushclient.com :-)
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: mushclient.com?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: click forums, click mushclient, click plugins?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athys Tech: i've been wading through it and i can find any
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athys Tech: doh, plugins
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athys Tech: that's what it was, thanks
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athys Tech: i knew i had found it before
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avandore Tech: sooooo.... does anyone want an aardwolf client for android?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my client is fully usable from android ;-)
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avandore Tech: what one is that?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I use tinyfugue...best client on all OSes ;-)
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: any computer that would allow telnet or ssh gives me my full blown setup :-)
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: wouldn't using a mud client on an android be botting?  Androids are robots!
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You groan at the sight of Blessed Balaam.
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avandore Tech: ugh i have alot more work to do... it just crashed lol.
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: connectbot, ssh into freeshell, screen tf5 ;-)
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: anyone knows a resource with cmud scripts?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: if it's cmud, there's a built-in library in cmud that you can peruse for scripts.
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: waht kinda scripts are you after?
T1/r6/2009-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: just upgraded, looking to fix the broken first
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: anyone managed to get moonscript working for cmud?
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: anyone dealt with newer versions of za ss?
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: zone alarm security suit that is
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Hey guys
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: hiya omega
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: Yep I is in school atm and the flash drive works
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rampagne Tech: anyone know the best way to capture tells to another window using the tell tag? I am having so much trouble trying to get the trigger to work
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: my channel trig - #REGEX {^\{chan ch=(~[^~}~]+)\}} {#SUBSTITUTE {};#CAPTURE CHANNELS;#IF (hancap_hidechannels = 1) {#GAG}}
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: fixed - #REGEX {^\{chan ch=(~[^~}~]+)\}} {#SUBSTITUTE {};#CAPTURE CHANNELS;#IF (@chancap_hidechannels = 1) {#GAG}}
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rampagne Tech: i have that script
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rampagne Tech: does it work for tells?
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: well, it's easy to modify it for tells
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rampagne Tech: yea but having trouble
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rampagne Tech: i don't know what to put for the pattern for a {tell}
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: just replace the tag and the var
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: tell me
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rampagne Tech: would it be {tell} for the pattern?
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rampagne Tech: i tried that and it did not work
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: send me a tell and i'll give you a pattern
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rampagne Tech: i know that is wrong
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that's #regex ^[{]tell[}](.*?)\stells\syou\s['](.*?)[']
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: where %1 is the name and %2 is the tell, if you need it
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rampagne Tech: ok i will try
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you could use something like :TELLS:#SAY %1: %2
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: send me a tell, please
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nvmind. it works like a charm, provided you have a channels window open
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: another one, please
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: are you using the channels script?
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rampagne Tech: yes
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ok. i'm using it too. this works for me - #REGEX {^[{]tell[}](.*?)\stells\syou\s['](.*?)[']} {:CHANNELS:#SAY %1: %2}
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rampagne Tech: do i type that?
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: just nuke your old trigs and paste this into your prompt
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rampagne Tech: i don't follow?
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rampagne Tech: my hp/man/moves prompt?
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the box where you type the commands
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely.
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rampagne Tech: ok pasted it and hit enter
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: did you try #killall
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir snickers with Felt about their shared secret.
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rampagne Tech: sorry,m not fam. with zmud prog. yet :)
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: yeah, #killall is a cheat code that lets you kill everything in the game
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: that's why it's #killall, of course
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rampagne Tech: alright dagnir it is in my trigs now
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rampagne Tech: now what
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: did it work?
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hmm. the trig doesn't catch tells sent by you tho
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: for sent tells - #REGEX {^[{]tell[}]You\stell\s(.*?)\s['](.*?)[']} {#gag;:CHANNELS:#SAY To %1~: %2}
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: .
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: How do you change the timeout on slow-walking with the CMUD mapper?
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: is there an easy way to find the stored website passwords on xp64 or save the file so you can migrate it to another machine?
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: im sure there is, it is easier in firefox though
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: this is for internet explorer even if its the web address and login name?
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: i can go through a list of passwords i use manually
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Free.. http://www.timeatlas.com/mos/Useful_Utilities/Free/Backup_Internet_Explorer_Settings/
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: does: Auto complete passwords as well as other settings
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: then emails those passwords to ozzy
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Wyverex X
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Wyverex :X
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nodnodnodnod :P
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i want those Dialup account settings!
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: btw, the homepage for that app is http://backsettings.com/profile.html
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: a subsidiary of ozzyhax, inc.
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: shhh... took me a bit to add the domain and throw together a site
T1/r6/2009-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: anyone on what.cd/waffles.fm irc channels atm?
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: how does one stop the client from automatically making you afk?
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: client-side...
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: disable the afk detector (assuming you're using mushclient)
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: plugin**
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: thanks!
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: This is exceedingly weird. I cannot connect to IRC from my home computer, but going to Aard is fine.
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: open ports? firewall?
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: DNS
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: would be my guess
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I'm not sure. I changed a setting or two on the router earlier, but it was toggled back.
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: weirder than that, someone WANTS to connect to IIRC?
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Farkyss, no one connects to IIRC.
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: why is iirc weird?
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: That's not the only problem.
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: irc provides a better chat channel
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: My web server and SSH ports are up. I just can't get ... hold on, let me see if I have Aard as an IP or a hostname.
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: OK, looks like a DNS issue.
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: perhaps IIRC has closed
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GentooX claps at Tech Bloke Danj's performance.
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: we can hope
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: iirc? if i remember correctly?
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: iirc isn't weird in the same way dogging isn't weird
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: How do you fix a DNS issue, though?
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: reset to default/
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Change the DNS server?
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: your isp doesnt provide one?
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: They seem to be up and running, my brother is using it fine.
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: you may have blocked dns port?
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Which would be ...?
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: port 53
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I did install and uninstall a DNS server from my box.
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: How do I check if port 53 isn't taken by anything else?
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: which irc do you use: Undernet Efnet Dalnet ... 
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: freenode
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: that trurien i dont know
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: oh a port scanner
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Freenode. Yeah. I got the IP off pinging from my Vista machine, though.
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: 154.35.200.44 should be it.
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: try it
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: How in muchclient do i make my trigger (to alert someone who sends me a tell, that  i am afk) would i make it NOT repeat the same thing twice, if they send me a tell twice in a row?
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: anyone knows of a moonscript for cmud?
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redderick Tech: Hello tech channel. I was wondering if anyone new how to make the help information pop into the aardwolf tab as opposed to making its own window?
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: hmm.. interesting
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: turn off the help plugin
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: file -> plugins
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redderick Tech: I didn't want to ask that. but thanks
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: click Aardwolf_Help, click disable
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: Learn something everyday!
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why not ask? :-)
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: thats what I love about this channel :P
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redderick Tech: mainly becasue i am trying to learn by trial so I know how it works fully. I am not one to ask questions until I can't figure it out. takes longer, but I get a lot of knowledge that way
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: basically, everything you see in MUSH that isn't straight telnet behavior is being done by a plugin (or something you've personally added to trig/alias/macros)
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so going to file -> plugins is the first place to look
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redderick Tech: thank you, I like the help file in the main window, much easier to read imo 
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you double-click on one of them, it'll open an edit window so you can see the "guts" of the plugin
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, a separate window would be good if it weredone like the channel captures (a fake world)...but doing it in a notepad window means no color codes
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so help map is totally useless
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redderick Tech: so, do you have a plug-in stated in a window non-notepad? so that it can stay persistant? that would be useful.
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: also, in the file -> plugins window, you can click "show info" to see lots of info about the plugin (provided the plugin author created that section)
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I use a different client myself, shouldn't be too hard to change though
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: Can someone help me figure something
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: it involves an "idle trigger" consisting of cast levitation when I float to the ground. This trigger has never kept me online before.. but somehow
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: apparently I may have drowned in wobbly and killed.. the next morning I realize my corpse has rotted
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: can anyone make any sense to this
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: it kept you online because you can't cast levitation when you're lying down (dead in hospital)
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: I see
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: but if I can cast levitation it doesnt keep me online
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: why is that
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drighton Tech: anyone know if the aard client has been successfully used in Wine?
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I use it in wine
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kysusha Tech: I haven't used the Aard client specifically, but I have used MUSHclient in Wine.
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Lasher Tech: I think the aard client crashes in wine on helpfiles because it tries to open notepad, other than that works fine.
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, it is used in wine by a number of players
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drighton Tech: great, i'll give it a shot
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: if you change wine to emulate win 98 that goes away
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kysusha Tech: Keep in mind WinE's unofficial motto is "Huh, it works on my machine"
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: turn off the aardwolf_help plugin & avoid that
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what is the advantage difference between VMware and Wine
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i had it turned off
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vmware will work with things that wine won't
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: vmware using a lot more resources, basically, you are running windows in linux
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wine is more lightweight resource-wise
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: vms are bloated
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wine just emulates windows calls, not running a full windows computer
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: I recently started using the aard plugins with MUSHclient under WINE. It seemed fine. Note that you should start the client with the /wine switch.
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Or is it \wine? He he
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kysusha Tech: It's / for switches. \ is the escape character. I think.
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: has anyone got moonscript working on cmud?
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Working on it. :P
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tevez Karlos grins evilly.
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, price ya pay for "early" adoption...3 years after it comes out ;-)
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: heh, would be cool if charn hosts more of his scripts up :p
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: i mean, the scripts he adapted :p
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus grins evilly.
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I do them by request!
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Moonscript has been... interesting, so far.
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: hehe, at least the principles of the idea are already there
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I'm going to wind up just writing the thing from scratch, really.
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: I am trying to learn (slowly) how to program in xml and lua, i was wondering if there is a site with script for many clinets, that i could practice changing them to MUSH?
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: scripts*, clients*
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Only the respective client sites would normally have scripts for it.
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's a number of scripts for various clients available online
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: However, you can google lua and learn how it works and experiment.
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: I was more asking if there is someplace online that has a compilation of the client's scripts
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUSH is the only client which is primarily scripted in lua currently
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: On the respective client sites.
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: I thought most of the MUSH scripts were in xml...
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: xml is a file format
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not a language
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: The file format is xml. The code is lua.
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: code/language.
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're just looking to see some example aard scripts for any client for ideas on what to do, I've got a number of tinyfugue scripts on my site in my finger...charn, davos, danj, alhena, crimson all have scripts on their sites for c/zmud, the MUSHclient site www.mushclient.com has tons of plugins for aard
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: I have all the plugins for mush that i have any use for, but all the good scripts seem to be for cmud/zmud...and i was wanting to see if i could learn to convert them to mush so that i could use them.
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Probably not, since z/CMUD's internal scripting is much different than MUSH.
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kysusha Tech: It'd be less converting and more complete rewriting.
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Is there an easy way of doing that, or just flounder through?
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, they're good to look at for ideas and abstracts, but not for direct conversion
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Well, i wouldn't need to convert if c/zmud would work on my computer...
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make it work ;-)
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: i tried
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kysusha Tech: I found the idea of a paid-for telnet client, no matter how many shines are on top, distasteful anyway. :P
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: I always get 'c/zmud has stopped working, please wait while windows searches for a solution'
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kysusha Tech: Last time I tried Zmud, they added some of those paranoid copy protection things. Gods know what could be causing that with all that stuff in the soup.
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Anyone have any idea on how to fix that problem? (short of changing from windows)
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kysusha Tech: All that tells ya is "Soemthing broke, we're sorry" so... it could be anything. Would need more info.
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: i don't get anymore info from it.
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kysusha Tech: This is why I dislike windows precisely, yeah
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're on vista?
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Sadly
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: And before you ask, yes UAC is off
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I still think it's admin rights. :P
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kysusha Tech: Standard 'fix' for anything on Vista :P
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Or a nice virus on your computer. :\
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: The UAC id off AND i ran as admin
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: is*
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: i can still download anything except stuff from Zugg
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Start->Run->cmd, takeown /f filename *blink*
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: didja try right-clicking on cmud.exe, & setting winXP compatibility option in properties?
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: No, let me try that
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Some issue
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: same*
T1/r6/2009-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: How can i see specifaclly what error is occuring?
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: DK, here's something to try...win-R to get the Run box...type "SystemPropertiesDataExecutionPrevention"...under performance, click settings...click the data execution prevention tab...click the option to use DEP for essential windows programs and services only
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it will require a reboot before it kicks in
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glojn Tech: anyone know how to change font in MUSH?
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: game>configure>output
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glojn Tech: fanks
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Darkknowing goes to Glojn: "No Problem!"
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Can someone look at my script on pastebin and see what im doing wrong? (for MUSH)
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: where is it?
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avandore Tech: where is pastebin?
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: http://pastebin.com/m230585c
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the Lastsent function isn't called anywhere
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: i added a trigger to capture it after i made the script, i can't get it to install, i keep getting error in line 53
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Ahh, on pastebin it is actually line 52
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is cdata required?
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: huh? dude i don't know crap for this, im still trying to learn, i justed used the plugin wizard
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: just*
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: so what is cdata?
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what I had sent you was intended to go into the Send box of a trigger, it was not a standalone script
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: i couldn't figure out how to get that to work...
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to put it into the Script tab, you would need to make it a function declaration
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: God, i hate being retarded and this is making me feel dumber...
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: literally, in your trigger, where you have the reply part...make the reply a send, and paste my thing just below that
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: When i changer reply to send, it didn't do it at all
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: I am going by exactly what you say because i can't do it alone, can you tell me exactly what i need to change, and what to
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Ok, still on the same issue, i poted a new one with it capturing the lastsent and everything, i just can't get the proper function to occur(http://pastebin.com/m1f2f126e)
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: So anyone have any suggestions on it?
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just posted something that is more what you're looking for
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: yeah i saw, in the trigger box again?
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it does the auto-reply, but won't reply to the same person twice in a row...it doesn't start storing a whole list of names to check against like my tinyfugue one does, but it'll stop all but a tag-team from abusing ;-)
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: what are the '\' doing?
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the Send function uses () to designate what to send to the world...it's telling the Send function that the ()s in your reply isn't the end of the send
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: ahh
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kazuma Tech: anyone know how to up the font size in cmud? so that everything is easier to read
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: can Mush, tf, others do multiple on command line.. like zmud/cmud's #xx blah... like #10 blah
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: anyone know if Mush includes #xx command line repitition support now?
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: if not... there is a plugin Nick wrote... http://www.mushclient.com/forum/?id=8473
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: mimics the zMud command :)
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: hi guys, anyone know why when i go586, the result is always go586 without any spacing? 
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: hi guys, anyone know why when i %if(%numkeys(ath)=1,go ath), the result is always goath without any spacing? 
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what client are we talking about?
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: zmud/cmud
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: try "go ath"
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: ok.. path is a variable but it didn't appear right
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: whats appearing is gopath instead of go path
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: concat?
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: no matter how many spaces i leave for the true result, it joins both together
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: %if(%numkeys(ath)=1,%concat("go ",ath))
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: or something like that
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: ah ok.. got it, i was dumb :p
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: really hard finding decent uATX cases at a reasonable price these days
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: what is the system wide bashrc file in ubuntu?
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: man bash should let you know what order rc files are read in
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: im on gentoo
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then it doesn't matter :P
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you're on a system and need to know, use the man ;-)
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: no. ubuntu has a different name...
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, but it doesn't matter because you're not on it
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: as abelinc says, check the man, there's the list of files and in which order they're checked
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: you dont understand. it matters because im helping someone
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then HAVE THEM READ MAN
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you've got the answer
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: just check them one by one
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: hes blind
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if they can't type man bash, then they have zero business running it
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: blind people can read manpages as well
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: besides, i'd be surprised if it were anything else than /etc/bashrc
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: the last time i checked twas something like /etc/bash.<something>rc
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: likely either just in etc, or in /etc/profile, or in skel directories
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then do an LS there to see what shows up
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: his path is broken
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: path doesn't matter
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ls in a directory isn't dependent on path envar
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: true he cant do anything on a terminal but ls.   
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: his system rc is fine, his profile is broken
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make sure that /usr is mounted
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ls is /bin/ls...man is /usr/bin/man
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: im trying to help him restore his profile from the rc
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just delete his bashrc...you don't restore from the rc
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or rename it
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: he doesnt have local profile and rc
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i mean bashrc
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then it's not his profile that's messed up
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: its the system profile
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you just said that the system one is fine and his profile one isn't...
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: the system bashrc is fine its the profile thats broken
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the system profile is right next to the system rc
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if he can get to one, then he gets to both
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can fix his path just by setting the variable...
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i give up.  i just want the name
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we've given you everything needed...
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: its /etc/bash.bashrc
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: its only the filename i want. right?
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: at this point I dunno what it is that you think you want
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i ask for the filename because im not an ubuntu user and i know ubuntu has a different filename.  thats the only thing i need.  i dont think its complicated.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just to get filenames is why I suggested using ls from the start...ls /etc/bas* would give you bash-related files
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, I don't think it's complicated either, that's why I gave simple answers
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: wow. I see, I'm not the only mega-confused one. I do see a bash.bashrc. but i can't run it.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: or couldn't, I need a break from the evil linux console.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but if things like doing an ls are too much, then he has no business running ubuntu
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: they aren't too much, thanks.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I just don't know them yet.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: not at all. someone is trying to learn
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if your path is broken, then you use full pathnames
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: and I can do an ls, and did. but nothing came up with the profile string, even using grep. which I can use.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: the learner has a slow learning curve sorry about that
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: well, I have. /etc/bash.bashrc said that that wasn't a valid file or directory.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not an executable
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's an interpreted file
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: you're all forgetting one key thing. I can't actually see the stuff.  if it's not executable, someone should have told me.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it doesn't have the 'x' bit set, then just calling it won't work
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: because, I need exec if it's not executable, I think.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can "source" it
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: see, there's our problem. I didn't know it wasn't executable with an alternative running method.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't execute config files...ever
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use ls with the minus l flag, so that you can tell what permissions files have, and see if they're executable
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the file would only have gotten broken by editing it...so it seems you knew where to find it at one point
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: or, something else happened. I've put on a lot of software I can almost garentee you've never worked with. it's possible one of those edited something improperly.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: emacspeak, eflite, festival, festvox-don, orca (with system by default), yasr, speakup-source (which i plan to build eventually), and all the dependancies for those. it's possible its not my fault.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: it can happen with a wrong shell script
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: palsa-oss, which was also part of a patch to improve orca. so, let's stop being condescending, please.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: you forget. I'm using readers, I'm a bit slower because I also have to learn the reader at the same time. the learning curve is steep, for someone who's written windows programs before.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I'm restarting. I'll source the file. we'll see what happens.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're having problems specifically because you're NOT going slower
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're blitzing your system, and screwing things up
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: it's a wubi install.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I installed it in such a way that I could screw things up, because that's what I expected.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you need to learn things like your reader, then take the time to learn them BEFORE you go mucking further and installing further stuff
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: can't.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, you can
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: the reader is too closely integrated with the consoles and gnome desktop.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're choosing not to
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: oopse, mis.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: the reader is the os. I can memorize the screen review keystrokes, but every application is different.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: see what I mean, some don't even work. if the keyring is run in sync mode for example.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and yet you immediately go and install competing software
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: ok.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: fixed.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: working.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: where isn't, but everything else is.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: and the problem is one of those stupid visual things.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: the prompt that I thought would be a prompt was an interactive login screen, asking for user name and password.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: since my user name isn't yasr, and my password isn't me typing yasr again, because of no response, nothing happened.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rampagne Tech: anyone know how to make a button that has a sum of of variables
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mitragyna Tech: how do i disable the help feature with the aard client?
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rampagne Tech: anyone know how to get a sum of variables
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: file -> plugins, click Aardwolf_Help, click disable
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mitragyna Tech: thank you
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rampagne Tech: figured it out 
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rampagne Tech: #ADD variable name (var1+var2,var3...)
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rampagne Tech: anyone know a way of capturing the score screen in another window?
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: anyone got experience with picking touch screens?
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: If you pick at them, they will never heal.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: lol.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: well, i'm trying to decide between keytec, viewwindow, or another option which I haven't found yet for a 50-inch plasma that seems to emit a lot of IR, at least I think.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: got enough sight left to use one, so...
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: so, no one has any thoughts?
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I have plenty of thoughts, but my experience in picking touch screens is: "iPhones are shiny."
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: um.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: that's nice.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: so. no one can help. it's a "" purchase, and no one can help.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: lol. 2000 dollar.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Not too sure about the touchscreens, Camlorn. Not spent enough time looking for them :)
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: forgot my client likes to interpret $$ as a variable indicator.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: well, single $, thought I had to escape it.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Didn't you say you were blind Camlorn?
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I am kind of trying to find one though, to upgrade my MP3 player :)
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Inicus: tech -h camlorn :P
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: yes. to a point of not being able to see many things, but not to a point of gouged out eyes, or something.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: my remaining vision is at a point where, with a large TV, I can play some (but not all) mainstream video games.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: so, we're planning to add a touchscreen so I can try PC games, with sighted assistance with reading the text.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Good way to eliminate the rest of it, heh.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: those are just myths. I've been staring at a TV screen with my nose less than 2 inches away for years, and it's had no negative affects.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: well, besides the usual neuron killing.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: That's cool, I can do that in the future. :P
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: o neet, they fixed neuron in the jaws dictionaries. never noticed that:)
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: but yeah, I wannt to try mmorpgs (Evil, I know, but I can only play them with sighted assistance), and the sollution is a touch screen.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: get a little brother to yell out "No, to the left!"
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: o, our system is much more sophisticated than that.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: my parents and I have much practice, and no, we don't use the "NO TO THE <DIR>!!!" methodology.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: turns out I do better without that kind of help.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: can't wait until they come up with braile monitors.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: o lol.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: we already kind of have them.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: epaper is here (just not very good).  Wouldn't be too hard to make ebumpy paper.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: a  single-line braille display requires 2x(20, 40, or 80) motors.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: well, actually 6x. and no one gets 20's because that's not even enough for a sentence.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: so, that's 6x40, or 240, individual raising pins.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: or just get a material that expands when it has electrical current.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: with tiny motors, buttons, and controlling mechanisms, for about 5000 dollars.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: there's that muscle stuff, but we couldn't make it so that it'd work for a monitor, it'd be to fragile. I don't remember what it's technical name is, but it expands and becomes more rigid upon the receiving of an electric current.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: we'll have neural implants first, i think.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: and in my case, that'd be a sollution. the problem is in the eye, not the brain.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: well, it won't have to be a monitor monitor... just need a paper off to the side.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I'm firmly against neural implants.  I've seen too much sci-fi.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I could see it now: a HD plug out the side of the neck. a VGA and A/V out the forehead.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: current eye-camera technology has horrible DPI now, sadly.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: you have no idea, read otherland, and then talk to me about it. in that book, the main antagonists did not use neural implants, and the book ends with two of them getting them to visit a dead friend in cyberspace.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: the story was insanely complex.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: as in, one of those endings that's too complicated to spoil even if I tried.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: lol, but it is a superb example of what neural implants could do for the blind and disabled; one of the main characters was blind, and another had some disease or other.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: so yeah, i'd line up for the USB in the scalp.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: And then Skynet takes over...
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: and bluetooth out the ears.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: skynet, terminator didn't have neural implants, to my knowledge.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I could deal with the Bluetooth ear antennas.  Everything is better with Bluetooth.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: no, everything will be better when we stop thinking bluetooth is neet.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Skynet = evil controlling robot.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Bluetooth is neat.  So is wireless USB.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: um.... hello... ?!! did we forget about inventing subspace communications first??
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: nah, we got distracted by the Grand Unified Theory.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: What is the info in the squiggly brackets at the start of every line, and how do I get rid of it?
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: subspace yeah right. we'll just stretch quantum strings between point a and b, vibrating them.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: erm... what info in the squiggly brackets?
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: quantum guitar!
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: lol.. nice try "unifying" quantum physics and string theory, camlorn.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Like {chan ch=auction}
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: type tags off
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Whew!  Thank you!
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: well, revelation space goes into it, in absolution gap. brane theory.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: that's the only reason I looked it up, actually.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: then, my physics teacher touched on it briefly.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: last time I had a physics teacher that touched on something, he lost tenure.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: what ever.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Camlorn Tech: I'm not appreciating the joke.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shuny Tech: Can anyone help with a question regarding Mushclient
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: what was the command that showed affects like sanc, haste, etc?
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tranceport Tech: maybe
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Ask it and we will see
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aflags
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: thanks
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shuny Tech: My side map isn't following me and i'm not sure why.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: shuny, try "tags map on"
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shuny Tech: perfect :)
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shuny Tech: do i need to do that for anything else?
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: any other tags you have turned off which you have scripts for...
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tags channels on for channel capture
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shuny Tech: wow all my tags are on
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shuny Tech: i mean off
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'll want statmon on for the health status window
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: statmon is by far the best one
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shuny Tech: anyothers?
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: spellup scripts should use spell tags
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shuny Tech: i just turned skillsgains, spellups statsmon exits and map :)
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: they are all usefull, just depends on the script
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xephrin Tech: my default install has these one enabled: bigmap, channels, coords, helps, map, mapexits, mapnames, says, skillgains, spellups, tells
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that default install bit me when i went back to zmud :P
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shuny Tech: i normally used zmud just couldn't get a health bar on zmud was told to go to mush :P
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't switch clients just for a health bar...fiendish has a nice one for zmud
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xephrin Tech: zmud doesn't work on vista does it? gotta use that cmud right?
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: zmud will work on vista
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shuny Tech: thank you i turned all of those on don't understand what tags do but thank you
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: http://img19.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image1rlq.png
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shuny Tech: that bar makes it so much easier on my eyes and for me to run zmud i lost my code so need to pay again
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xephrin Tech: ah, cool.. i was messing around with cmud the other day.. the parsing was so slow i almost cried
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You don't need to pay again.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You can log into the store using your login for Zuggsoft and retrieve a new license.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shuny Tech: i did that when i was 14 i'm 23 now i forgot all of it :P :)
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Xephrin: Don't know what you were doing. Parsing isn't slow on my end. I use CMUD religiously. :P
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You can email Zugg/Chiara with as much information as you can.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: cmud just pukes on zmud import for me
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: They can work with you on it.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shuny Tech: i love zmud macro's and the echo is so nice
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shuny Tech: i've actually bought my code twice already i have to have it in a e-mail some where but i gotta roll thank you again for the help
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, yours would ozzy :P
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not exactly a 'light' setup
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: it usta import into 2.x ... but like 4000 errors
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus grins evilly.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It's not the program. It's the scripts themselves. Write them correctly in zMUD, they have no problem porting over to CMUD. *inno*
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, once zmud doesn't have bugs that you need to incorrect code around, that'd be possible ;-)
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: they all work 100% in zmud... i have no desire to re-write most of em
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Just because they all 100% work in zMUD doesn't mean it's proper coding.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i like my "accidental features" in zmud :P
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: CMUD is more strict with how you script things.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i wouldnt call scripting coding in the 1st place
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tranceport Tech: sure it is..
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Abelinc: Most of the bugs in CMUD aren't with scripts itself anymore. I find I don't have to 'work around' anything (aside from the newly created bug of #nn not working this version). :\
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tranceport Tech: scripting is coding/programming  it's just compiled on the fly instead of prebuilt.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You use a predefined language to build your scripts. :)
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: #10 dont work?
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Not in this version. Something was changed that changed that format.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: #LOOP 10 still works, though.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: He's fixing the #nn for the next version.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: like i said a while back.. ill wait till cMud 5.55 :P
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus chuckles politely.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: charn, I was commenting on zmud, not cmud...you said if he wrote his zmud scripts properly, they'd import fine...the problem is that if you write zmud scripts "properly", they don't work in ZMUD
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: and then keep it till cMud 7.21
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Ah, ok. :)
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: a lot of my errors in cmud were from me using ~[ instead of %char(91), stuff like that
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: No, [ needed to be quoted, since it's a string.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: #show %char(91)
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: not if used properly in a #SHOW/SAY
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I'm not saying it doesn't work. I'm saying that you needed to quote it instead.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: #SAY "[" works just fine.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: kinda like writing html with & instead of &amp;
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: kinda like writing html with & instead of & amp;
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: stupid mxp :P
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: So does #SAY "["@variable"]" ;)
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ~[@was_easier :P
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It's also lazier. :P
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: %char(91)@was_proper
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: That works because functions didn't need to be quoted.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: and ({?.?.?|? ?|? & ?}) puked in cmud too in a trig pattern
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: What exactly were you trying to match there? 
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I'd puke just looking at it, frankly.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malyk Tech: looks like some obscure java programming to me
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that was the old areas list.. before keywords... C.A.W, two names, tom & jerry
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: plus other patterns
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xephrin Tech: well hey, since you guys are talkin about cmud. can you point me in the right direction to pull the MAPSTART/MAPEND into another window? i was using a trigger w/ C+ and C- but it seems really slow
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so in zmud patterns, ? is a regexp .   ?
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Ah. I just used ranges for that. {[A-Za-z.& ]+} works for me.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: 135  150  115  Windu & Maraude  Desert Doom
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: 50   80       C.A.W.           The Adventurers Wayhouse  
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: like those
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: areas keywords made that one mute though
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It's not, Abelinc. Or if it is, I've never used it in that fashion.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: moot ;-)
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ? in zmud is one or none chars
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: yea.. moot
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: ^(((?:\s+)?\d+\s+\d+)[A-Za-z0-9 .&]{24,24}(.*\s+(\d+) of (\d+)))(?:\s+)?$ ------ that's the pattern I use to capture the area list.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh... i hated english class :P
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: im a cluesless regex person
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It's really easy to learn, though.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: and you can change your trig to capture from "areas keywords" now for a speed improvment... needs a much simpler trig
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malyk Tech: i've taken enough computer science classes to recognize a little of statements like that, but not enough to have clue what it actually means:)
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Actually, that's my unexplored area trigger.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: \s = %s \d = ?%w
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: \d word or #?
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I was clueless about regex until I got CMUD and started using that instead of regular trigger patterns.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: \d+ is digit.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I tend to use ranges instead of the slash classes
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods at you in agreement. 
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: what little i know is from zmuds ?broken? regex conversion button
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Depending on the specific need, yeah, ranges can work better than slash classes.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are subtle differences in implementations definitions of word boundaries, etc
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: regex in zmud doesnt seem to be fully compliant to anything
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I think cmud uses the same library tf uses currently, pcre
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I never had a problem with regex in zMUD.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: pcre78, yeah.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I hope it doesn't use pcre with Charneus' "(.*\s" bit previously.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: stuff i can get to work in UltraEdit search and replace regex dont work in zmud
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus quirks an eyebrow at Blessed Balaam.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: "." matches anything, so ".*\s" is redundant, usually.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I only have to change a few things between tf and editpad's regexp
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Hmm. See, I learn more about regex every day!
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Blessed Balaam thwaps himself for being a moron.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: sadly, I regex for a living.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Weird, though, that the * is needed. *ponder* But I can assure you it uses pcre. *blink*
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: actually it's not redundant...it makes sure that it ends a certain way...
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: .* will match things which .*\s will not
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: "*" matches any number of the previous set.  Including 0 of them.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's forcing it to end in whitespace
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods at you in agreement. 
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the point is to be more restrictive, balaam, not to just match loosely
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: restrictive = much faster too, at least in zmud
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: didn't pay attention to the entire thing charn posted, but your quoted redundant example is not true
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Here's the pattern: "(.*\s+(\d+) of (\d+)))(?:\s+)?"  It could be done with "\s*(\d+) of (\d+)"
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: in that case, it was redundant.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: erm...  I grabbed too much of the end there.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Actually, I doubt that, Balaam. The purpose of the trigger is to capture things like: 140  160  110  Kahr             Nanjiki Ruins                     5 of 50
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: \s* of would only match whitespace...   .*\s matches "stuff", then space
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Learn regex, then try doubting it.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: 140  160  110  nanjiki          Nanjiki  <-- much easier to trig :P
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Ozzy: Except I'm not writing 255 triggers.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Balaam: Did you look at the whole trigger?
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i only have one to match all
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Yes Charneus...  I'm redoing it now.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: just populates a area_keywords var
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: ^(((?:\s+)?\d+\s+\d+)[A-Za-z0-9 .&]{24,24}(.*\s+(\d+) of (\d+)))(?:\s+)?$ -- The range part only does the name of the creators. The .* part stores the name of the area, plus what comes after it.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I can read it...  it's just, well, insane.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: If I were to change it to what you said, then it'd never fire because the area name would be captured.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: would not*
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: use area keywords and then match.. %w ... \w?
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: the whole regex must be changed.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malyk Tech: lol, i feel like i'm in a programming class:)
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: cause im pretty sure you dont use creator info anyways?
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Ok. Change it. I want the whole thing captured as one component, the level range captured as a second component, the area name AND rooms explored out of how many rooms there are as a third component, then the rooms explored as a fourth, and the number of rooms as a fifth.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: umm...  why would you capture the whole thing as one component, doesn't cMUD return the line captured as an argument?
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: or is it silly and doesn't do that?
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Yes, I could use %trigger for it, but I often choose not to. :)
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: areas keywords un <-- much easier to capture
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Ozzy: Still the same results, though. I'd just have to change the range.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: it would be better to have a pattern match the whole thing, then use a script to rip out the data you want individually.  Mostly since you have overlapping conditions.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: range goes to \w
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: always one word
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: What I'm doing is changing the original format to: 201    201  The Realm of Evil Heroes         28 of 31       ( 90.32% unexplored)
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: no "Vilgan & Leaf", "C.A.W." crap
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Why would you want a variable which has the rooms & rooms explored, then other variables with the rooms explored and yet another with the total rooms?
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: That's not the part anyone is debating though, Ozzy. Balaam is saying I can change the (.*\s+ to something completely different.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nod
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Balaam: Again, just satisfy me. :) If you think you can do it better, please do. I want to learn. :)
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Charneus, I stand corrected.  With what you are trying to do, you would need that...  but I don't see why you are trying to be so redundant with the returned variables, when you can just rebuild them later.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: just saying... adding "keywords" to areas make the pattern even simpler... #ALIAS areas {~areas %-1 keywords}
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods at Ozzy.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Balaam: Even if I were to remove the redundant variables, it'd still be pretty much the same pattern. I think, honestly, I had done that in the beginning to test it all.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: all that C.A.W., name & name, name name crap drove me nuts getting one trig to match all originally :P
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods at Ozzy.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Oh wait, I know why I need the whole thing as a variable.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It's because I use psub instead of sub.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: psub?
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: PSUB has to have a beginning (at least). Ending is optional. But instead of subbing the trigger, I psub it out. I think it's faster psubbing instead of subbing, though I could be wrong.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: SUB with start and end
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I dunno.  I don't use cMUD.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: zmud has it as well
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I dunno...  I don't use zMUD :p
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Sub gags the line and returns a new one. Psub just edits the line out, basically, which is why SUB won't return colors, but psub will.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Syntax: #PSUB text [XStart] [XEnd] [YStart] [YEnd]
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: ah, I get that.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: #TRIGGER {(%w) tells you} {#PSUB "[%1]" %x1}    When the MUD sends "Someone tells you...", this trigger substitutes the first matching pattern and puts [] around it, resulting in "[Someone] tells you"
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i am liking the "area class" folders in cmud 3 though :P
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: much faster then zone scripts in cmud
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: erm zmud
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: is there a way to auto-reconnect in mushclient?
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods at Ozzy.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: there is an auto-reconnect plugin on the MUSHclient site.
T1/r6/2009-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: sweet
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavelost Tech: http://pastebin.com/da7f66ac
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavelost Tech: any clue why that trigger won't work?
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavelost Tech: i have cmud btw
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: The trigger works, the color codes dont....
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You can't expect someone to answer a question without giving more information.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: And it's courtesy, not curtosy. ;)
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavelost Tech: such as :P
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: What isn't working about it?
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavelost Tech: the cabal part
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: All you've given us was the action, not the actual trigger.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavelost Tech: the trigger is You have given %1 a Hershey Kiss. How sweet!
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: He is triggering on his spellup to inform the spelled up that they are getting a gift from cabal, the trigger works but in tell format the color codes dont work
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavelost Tech: this is the response i get when it tries to fire
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavelost Tech: ERROR: Trigger "You have given %1 a Hershey Kiss. How sweet!$" fired but did not compile
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does it fire when you chocolate them?
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavelost Tech: yes
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do the parenths need ~s? (not z/cmud user, just tickling ideas)
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Then do #SEND "tell "%1" mini Spellup Courtesy of ~(~+~)~Cabal~(~+~)~. Don't forget we give out FREE newbie bags."
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redderick Tech: newbie bags!
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Bah.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Then do #SEND "tell "%1" mini Spellup Courtesy of @R(@w+@B)@WCabal@C(@g+@y)@c. Don't forget we give out FREE newbie bags."
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hehe, one more try ;-)
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: No need for one more try.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Putting it exactly like so will work.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't need tildes at all in the #send?
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Not when it's a quoted string.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: erm...  just don't use colours.  That's easier :p
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavelost Tech: but it isn't fun without colors balaam :P
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavelost Tech: still not working charn...
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I still have a macro to get cabal newbie bags :P
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: It didn't even trigger that time
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: That's ALL you have in that trigger, Mavelost?
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavelost Tech: i havce a spellup also
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavelost Tech: it spells up then sends that
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: One thing i noticed was he has it in reg exp, but has no ^ for an anchor
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: And if your trigger is 'You have given %1 a Hershey Kiss. How sweet!', then you need to change that %1 to (*).
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lack of anchor would make it easier to fire, not harder
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: anchors are there to stop abuse from people sending you the text string
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavelost Tech: you gotta understand i am only 17 :P and still learning this trigger stuff ;-) hard to do with no teacher to directly say do this and this happens
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: i never have used an anchor and still haven't had a misfire
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dk, if someone sends you a tell with the text, it'd trigger without anchors
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods at Mavelost.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mavelost agrees!
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redderick Tech: Mavelost I am 25...and i have no idea what any of you are talking about!
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Thats ok im 16
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or even doing a whois on someone that has, for example, their best level rewards...would trip your level trigger
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the addition of the prefix on descs was great for preventing those
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavelost Tech: time is up...i gotta run...will try again on tuesday to fix...thanks  for the help so far ;-)
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but only if anchored
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Now they just need to do that for notes!
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I aliased "not" and "note" to "turn off trigs ; #send note"
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: wonder how many people dont anchor :P You raise a level! You are now level 10000.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (wait 5 secs, turn trigs back on)
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I would, except my note email script needs triggers. ;)
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on which message they're triggering on
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mavelost winks at Ozzy.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Lmao, i dont anchor and that didn't set of my trigger
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redderick Tech: an someone link me to a website to give me a brief explanation what you guys are talking about so I can have a small idea before my head explodes trying to just figure it out?
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i trigger on two lines ^blah$^blah$
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus is tech I'm a n00b! from here.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus grins evilly.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: redderick, the helpfiles for your MUD client should be good for much of it :-)
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: now if you said what you gained for that level it would set it off, but now that you know that you can't do it. Maliciously setting off someones trigger is against the rules
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: that isn't malicious...  it's a "learning experience."
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redderick Tech: thanks abelinc however I might have an issue being on vista? the mushclient doesn't run off that help system it seems
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Actually, the way i have it set up, it ownt trigger off a channel
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: setting off an improper trig isnt malicious, it's a scripting error :P
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: wont*
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: redderick, microsoft has the help system available for download
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Redderick: Turn UAC off
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Intentionally setting off triggers is illegal, though.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's not what he's saying, darkknowing
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redderick Tech: UAC is off, although I havn't goten the old hlp system on this comp.. *lazy*
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: yeha i realized when i re-read
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: yeah*
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: does that mean that if I have a trigger to attack Abelinc if he enters a room, then he enters the room, he's doing something illegal?
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Wan't intentional
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i just assume if it wont set mine off, it wont set others off, so no "intentionally" :P
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: I give up, i am not correcting spelling errors any more tonight
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: goode
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: winhlp32.exe for vista, http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=6EBCFAD9-D3F5-4365-8070-334CD175D4BB&displaylang=en
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: I BET you 100k gold coins you cna't set mine off over tech channel
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: zmud?
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: mush
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: He uses MUSH.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i can in tells on zmud :P
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: MUSHclient automatically anchors.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Ahh, no wonder i never have a misfire
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: BTW, darkknowing, MUSH anchors by default if you don't click the 'regular expression' checkbox
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it uses glob matching, which is required to match entire lines
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tf does simple, glob, or regexp
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ^i just learned to anchor everything when i first started mudding$
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You snicker softly.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: anchoring is useful :)
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: I guess i need not worry if its auto on MUSH
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Worry about it only if you use a regular expression.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: unless i go into reexp
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: still can fire in notes
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: regexp*
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, starting/ending a pattern with * "undoes" the anchors
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: |we need those in notes like descs
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: I never do
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: I currently have no need for partial line triggers
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavelost Tech: thanks charn and those who tried to help :)
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You're welcome. :)
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: By the way, you may want to anchor that.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Because if you do it on a channel, you'll send the same message. ;)
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Blessed Balaam grins evilly at Alt. Helpa Charneus.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You have given Balaam a Hershey Kiss. How sweet! will set it off. ;)
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavelost Tech: anchored :)
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavelost Tech: beat you to it ;-)
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Darn. ;)
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Don't warn him, then send the message.  Warn in the line which contains the message.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Blessed Balaam snickers with Mavelost about their shared secret.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: about 5 times in a row:  11 May 02:00 - Mavelost tells you 'mini Spellup Courtesy of (+)Cabal(+). Don't forget we give out FREE newbie bags.'
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavelost Tech: it was a short spellup that failed every time...;-) jk
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Heh. You need to make your script smarter, or get all your spells up to 100% first. ;)
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I think he meant it failed because there was nobody with that name in the room
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavelost Tech: i am working on the 100% atm :P
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I think he meant it failed because he was joking.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I hope...
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that too :-)
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: they came in WAY too quickly for it to be between spellups.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: BTW, I'll also mention that this should not be a trigger...it should be an alias
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: if it tiggers off of giving someone else something, that's not too terribly bad.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: still borderline.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the thanks can be a trigger, but you cannot trigger giving spellups
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: it still triggers off of one of his actions that he has to type out.  Kind of a roundabout alias.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, an illegal trigger which you work harder to not be triggerable by anyone but yourself is still illegal
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: but an alias which includes giving the chocolate bit would be best.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: does mush have anyform of #ONINPUT?
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can use aliases for that
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: well, what exactly does #oninput do?
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unanchor the alias
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or regexp it
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: ONINPUT is basically an alias, but it's slightly more advanced.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: you can set up a script to trigger off of what is sent to the mud, what the mud sends back, what is displayed...  pretty much anything.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: oniput is a trigger that matches your own commands
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods at Foren.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It takes what you put on the command line and sends it.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Er, sends it script-style.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: note note note  <-- i typed n t o e
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: sans spaces
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: there we go...  OnPluginCommand() is a script that checks what you type into the command line.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: OnPluginSend() checks: MUSHclient is sending 'sText' to the MUD
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: replay replay <--- e p r l a y  :P
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: A better example is turning 20m into 20,000,000.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You can't do that with an alias.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: yes you can.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: you could
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Not if you're using it on channels or whatnot.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: why not?
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: balaam, they mean can't easily do it with a z/cmud alias...not referring to MUSH alias
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Well, you can, but you'd have to have a lot of aliases. ;)
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: #IF %1 {%1 do it here
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: ah.  Forgot about that Abe... thanks.  Easier in MUSH.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You'd do #ONINPUT {(%d)m} {#SUB (%eval(%1*1000000)}} instead.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: and I assume also easier in tf and other clients that make sense.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You snicker softly.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Don't think it's much about ease between aliases and whatnot. ;)
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: tf and mush make 0 sense to me :P
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: well.. maybe 1% sense
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's backwards, you mean %1 sense :-)
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: but i weaned on tt++
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Stick it Inicus snickers with you about your shared secret. 
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, tt++ is logical progression to zmud
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: %1 is a param... i meant one percent :P
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tf goes back further tho ;-)
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I know ozzy
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i tried tf back in Slackware 3 or so... tt++ was MUCH easier to learn
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: but all the machines at work were windows... so zmud 3.62 :P
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, windows runs both tf and tt
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: all my work computers are Linux...  so MUSHclient.  And tf if I'm bored.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: some muds use #m### == #,###,000   #m## = #,##0,000  #m# == #,#00,000  #m == #,000,000 notation -- Aardwolf yet to catchup
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You pat Xyliz on her head.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Honestly, Abelinc types "ac" and sees commas just fine
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Some muds have people who know when they're not wanted or shouldn't speak on channels. Xyliz has yet to catch up.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus looks around and whistles innocently.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lother nods at Alt. Helpa Charneus.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i see decimals... xxx.xm
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: ##m### is more efficient than ##.###m
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: No it's not.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lother Tech: If its working, who cares?
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I'd rather type 3.4m instead of 3m4.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Charneus rather be wrong than modern
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: There is nothing wrong about my statement.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's modern now?
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: And I'd like to see when #m# became modern.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Every time I turn on the news, it's 14.3 billion, not 14 billion 3.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that looks strange
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods at Ozzy.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: ##m### is less typing than  ##.###m -- less finger movement -- less finger fumbling -- less chance of error
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, more chance of error
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: no way
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes way
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Less finger typing by one character. Definitely more chance for error.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the brain doesn't compute the numbers that way, it's artificial, and more chance of mental error
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Umm... how would Aardwolf know what numbers the pound signs stand for? (inno)
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: typos aren't the only cause for error
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods at you in agreement. 
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you've got to mentally translate the way you'd naturally put the number...BIG cause for error
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: mudding should be done through brain-wave sensors.  That will clear a LOT of inane chatter on the channels.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUDding should be done with the ability to trigger shock seats...that would eliminate even more :-)
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: The only way it wouldn't cause too much error is when someone has used it quite often enough that it's now the norm for them. It's like the difference between the Dvorak keyboard and the Qwerty keyboard. For most, qwerty is standard, and the norm. Try switching to dvorak, and the person has a harder time typing.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xyliz plays a mud with the #m# #k# syntax -- and no errors are done with amounts -- but the other mud sucks in other areas, so Xyliz plays here
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Then quit complaining, or go play that one and leave us alone?
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Maybe you should stay on that MUD and forget about here. I'm sure no one would miss you.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the Xyliz perference is efficient compact code and syntax
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: preference
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and human interface guidelines be damned!
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Right, it's YOUR preference. Not law, not norm.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: efficient code = good...making it inefficient for the user = bad
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: well, this is mudding...  not rocket surgery.  It doesn't have to be complicated.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Stating that your way is better is ridiculous. It may be better for you, but that doesn't mean everyone else needs to adopt to it, nor does it mean it's modern.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: ##.###m is complicated.   ##m### is simple
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I fail to see how ##.###m is complicated.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: 3.4m is hardly complicated. It means 3,400,000.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Whereas 3m4 could easily mean 3,000,004.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Which is how I would say it - 3 million four.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: and 3400000 is less complicated, as it can only mean 3400000
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Balaam: I think you're wrong. I think that means 0. (3*4*0*0*0*0*0)...
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but glancing at 3400000 doesn't actually tell me if it's 340k or 3.4m
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Too many zeros can get confusing for the eye.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: ok, so let's all type in 3,400,000
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: balaam, not having to type that is what started this thread
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Tell me, with a quick glance... 200000000 -- 20m or 200m? :P
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: 200!
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: charn types 20m, and what you'll see is 20,000,000
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Saves me from giving too much gold away when I meant 10x less.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: oh, you know what would be awesome...  if there was some way that you can have what you type changed by what you prefer.  Some type of... client type thing.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You raise your eyebrow at Blessed Balaam.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Man, that would be awesome!
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Too bad no one has ever thought of that before.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Aardwolf needs to make a client that allows such a deal!
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kysusha Tech: Bah client? Set up packet mangling on the router to do it.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: where 2 decimals are used, x.y is x.y0 not x.0y -- but Charneus prefers the wrong x.0y  (by extrapolation of Charneus translating xmy to x,000,00y )
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Yeah, Xyliz, I 'prefer' the 'wrong' way.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I prefer the more natural way of #.#m, or #.#k, as opposed to the unnatural (and thereby more confusing) way of #m# or #k#.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: had you actually read charn's other responses to you, you would have noticed that he fully understood what you're using as the 'correct' way...he used the hyperbole response of x,000,00y to show that it won't be universally understood and is ambiguous
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: in nature, simpler is more natural -- and Occam with a Razzor agrees
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in human nature, taught trumps nature
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: #m# is NOT more simple than #.#m.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: typing out the full number is still more efficient.  There's no processing to be done on the number.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Except, Balaam, your mental thought process of 'Am I adding enough zeros? Did I add too much?'
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: no, my thought process is, 1,2,3,4,5,6 zeroes.  And done.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: xey? 4e6 = 4,000,000
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus snickers with Arnica about their shared secret.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: 4 and 6 zeroes
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: now that makes sense.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Abelinc, Charneus deliberately suggested a wrong "not-useful" misinterpretation, in an attempt to sabotage the improvement
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Except it'd create more work because if you had 4,612,000, then you'd have to do 4.612e6.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: No, I suggested it because that's how most people would probably view it, Xyliz.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Charneus, you are lying
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Yah, and 3.14159e1 is still round
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus grins evilly at Arnica.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Yeah, Xyliz. Except you're the ONLY one who feels that #m# is simple and easily understood thus far.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Sorry, but you can't call me a liar when I'm stating fact.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: If I said 'That's how everyone sees it because it's your own made-up notation.' then you can probably call me a liar.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: actually, there is a whole mud of folk that use the xmy notation, and they all interpret the notation properly  
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: hence you are a liar, Charneus
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I can adjust to either 3.4m or 3m4.  I just don't care to.  Learn to count zeroes.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Congratulations for them, Xyliz. And no, it does not make me a liar, Xyliz.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neleus Tech: for the love of progress, how long has this argument gone?  -h chokes =)
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Too long, but that's how Xyliz works, Neleus.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Is there a name for either of those notations?
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Seriously, Xyliz, it's normal for them because they've grown accustomed to it. However, I bet you each and every one of them was accustomed to #.#m format first and took a while to adjust to the MUD's format.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Xylis, I don't think stating that one group using that notation is proof that it is intuitive.  Grab a random person on the street, and show them an index card which says "3m4" and ask them what it means.  Grab someone else, and ask what "3.4m" means.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods at Blessed Balaam.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: They'll call a cop
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I honestly don't know which will be recognized more, nor do I care.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Blessed Balaam rapidly nods twice at Arnica, in complete agreement.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: If you want to do 'groups speak for everyone' then let's do it this way: Everyone speaks Spanish because everyone in my house can speak Spanish.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: that's why I told him to do it rather than me doing it myself.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Si, Charneus
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus chuckles at Blessed Balaam's joke.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Balaam, if you ask ornery idiots to interpret, you may get the Charneus misinterpretation, but if you ask intelligent logical folk, they shall choose the most useful interpretation 
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I will agree with that, then.  Now...  Take a look at the average population...  logical, or idiot?
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Most of the population fall in the average IQ range.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: eediots!
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Blessed Balaam THWAPS Alt. Helpa Charneus for being a moron.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: At least I'm not an idiot! (Idiot is lower than moron on the IQ scale, by the way) ;)
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: Got a question. anyone here?
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: just ask the question
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: or do you want everyone to report in first regardless what the question might be?
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Wyverex rides up upon his warhorse and salutes with fist to heart.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rampagne Tech: anyone know where i can get another quest/stat/level script.. I messed mine up :(
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rampagne Tech: I kow Atriedies site is gone
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: crimson has one iirc
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: lol... for wut client?
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rampagne Tech: lol...
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rampagne Tech: zmud
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rampagne Tech: i have been learning scripting and i tihnk i deleted a variabel or something
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah. the one with spell check 
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mitragyna Tech: is this mud lp or diku?
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: neither
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mitragyna Tech: thought so. it sort of behaves like diku
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mitragyna Tech: sort of
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: used to be diku, was rewritten 
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mitragyna Tech: so diku+ ?
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a diku workalike, coded from scratch
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mitragyna Tech: fun
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, not diku+...it's not based on diku at all
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it was coded to behave in a familiar fashion
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mitragyna Tech: wouldn't that infer that it was "based" on diku? =)
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mitragyna Tech: lol, i'm just teasing
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: based, as in a derivative work, means that it is modified diku, with code changed piecemeal
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: Got a question about mushclient. Anyone got time?
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: the time is 12:16pm CST
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: Anyone knows if there is a MUD client for Nintendo DS available?
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: if you have QT libs installed you should try KMuddy. There was something for Gnome too, moment
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: ex-AMCL now Gnome-MUD seems popular :)
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: on this computer, I'm running aardwolf mushclient in wine, works fine. and linux on the DS doesn't work :( My DSTT cartridge doesn't seem to like it.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: so I'm looking for a homebrew mud client alternative
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: hebrew?
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: homebrew is a term for homemade apps/games
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: l'chaim!
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: try gnome-MUD or tf :)
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: Timeghost, are those better than the aardwolf mushclient? I love this mushclient so far, a minimap, a bigmap, chat window, stats window, and this game window. all organized and nice overview
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: installing both tf and gnome-mud now to try em out ^.^
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: Anyone got a Nintendo DS and successfully made mudding possible on it?
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: ha!
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: that'd be sick...
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: easy enough to do with dslinux
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: yeah, but DSTT, the cardridge I use, can't start it, I get a backtrace
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's best to do when you use a client like tinyfugue
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: with tf running on an accessible computer, you don't need anything more fancy than a basic telnet client in order to have a full MUDding environment at your fingertips
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: looking back on history, you really wouldn't want something like the MUSHclient on a DS...the eye candy takes up too much real estate, doesn't leave anything for input/output...
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no sense having a separate automap window when you've got to just switch over to see it anyway
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: ah, the mushclient I ment is the client I run on my stationary computer, Gentoo box :)
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, I'm just saying that "something like it" wouldn't work on a screen that size
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: If I just could get DSlinux to boot on my DS :/
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: I just get a lot of hex numbers and a backtrace code
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try submitting that bt code to the dslinux team
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: Few people have already posted the same backtrace on the DSlinux forum.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: seems to be some problem with dldi
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: I'll take a closer look tomorrow ^.^ hopefully I can solve this. gnite
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: Can anyone script in mushclient here.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: want to know if a thing is possible on it.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: anything is possible :-)
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as it uses lua, if you can figure out logic for it, it can be done in MUSH
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: can you make something that changes target when i go into a room.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: If i have like Bumblebee as target and then i walk into a room as se a shark there it changes target to shark
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's no such thing as target...you can make something that changes variable
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: okay.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: maby that's what i'm searching for.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the question is, how do you know that the shark you see is called shark?
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: that thing i will change myself
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: if i see the shark and the keyword on shark is bird it changes to target bird.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're going to continue along these lines, best is to have it do a 'con all' whenever you change rooms
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: much more reliable keywording than MOBs description
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: i will not target everything in all rooms. or con everything. just certain targets who i putted in the script
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: so i changes between them when i walk around
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: turn on roomchars tags, trigger on {roomchars} to turn on the set of triggers for your list targets, trigger on {/roomchars} to turn off that set of triggers
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if one of those triggers fires (it saw a match), set curr_target variable
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: easy enough to accomplish in any client
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: okay
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: i'm not a very good scripter.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: Had a friend who helped me alot before
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: is there any way to turn off the disconnect notice so it doesn't come up?
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which disconnect notice?
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: when i get disconnected, a box comes up saying that i got disconnected
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: shall we guess that you're using MUSHclient?
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: yup
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: anything that pops up a box isn't done by the MUD server, so it's client specific ;-)
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: file -> global preferences
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: yeah, and i looked through the configuration and ca...ok
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: uncheck notify me when connection broken should do it
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santeria Tech: ok im use to mudmaster and scripting is different anyone familiar with mudmaster?
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santeria Tech: im trying to get use to zmud
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, mm2k never really caught on
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santeria Tech: well not on this mud but on other ones it did
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what're you trying to accomplish currently?
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: sweet, thanks abe
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not really compared to other clients
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santeria Tech: normally if i wanna write an alias on mm2k lets say an over all alias for a spell that can have a different varible for the spells target
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm a tinyfugue user, rules the world before other clients really existed, but it hasn't been popular in years
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santeria Tech: normally mm2k would be /alias {mm %0} {c magic missle $0}
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: #alias {mm} {c 'magic missile'} or #alias {mm} {c 'magic missile' %1}...one of the two should work
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in zmud, don't think you need to specify in the alias part that it's expecting an argument
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I've never actually used zmud though ;-)
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santeria Tech: haha 
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santeria Tech: also simple alias like my garbage portal one
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUSHclient does require you to specify, and tinyfugue does not, so there's no real standard there
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santeria Tech: ww {remove dual;hold garbage;enter}
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santeria Tech: thats my alias for it but for some reason zmud enters the ww into the game
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santeria Tech: tells me thats not a normal command for aard
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santeria Tech: did i write the alias wrong?
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it says it's not a command, then it's not even sending ww...ww is www
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santeria Tech: abel which client do you use? maybe ill have more luck with it
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I use tinyfugue...it's really a geeks client though...no buttons, etc ;-)
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santeria Tech: thats why i liked mm2k was pretty basic
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a command-line client...everything done by typing and editing text files
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: zmud is easiest, mush is free and harder to use but has almost all the same. tf and others are just for scripting no matter what anyone says
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: who are you calling geek? :P
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can't be ani...no real geeks in UK
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santeria Tech: if it had mccp id want to keep usin mm2k
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft points excitedly at Trashbat! Anipopo!
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can still use mm2k, just use an mccp proxy
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: mccp proxy: http://mccp.smaugmuds.org/clients.html
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: bottom of the page
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or finger arkanes for a MUCH more recent one for windows
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: does anyone know how to turn off autocorrection of dates in excel 2007
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santeria Tech: cool i got the mccp proxy
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Can anyone tell me how to make windows xp stop going to the login prompt on startup?
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santeria Tech: remove password protection
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Invader Tech: TweakUI can disable that
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: But there's not password set! :)
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Erm not = no. :P
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santeria Tech: i was thinking of vista
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Is there any way to turn off command stacking while using the Flash client?
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: Zmud question : if i have 2 variable items both with a string value, what is the appropriate way to compare the two in an if statement
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: to test if the two variables hold the same string value or a different value
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Depends on how you're wanting to compare them.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: #IF (@variable1=@variable2) {then do this} {else do this}
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: ok so it will compare strings then just with an =?  thats what i was wondering.  thanks charn :)
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: w00t my equipment database works! i can change all my equipment easily and it's easily modifiable :)  Even if my programming is "simple" stuff i enjoy doing it none the less :)
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Bot.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ira Deorum Velian tickles Alt. Helpa Charneus.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ira Deorum Velian sits in the corner, sobbing loudly: he can't find a drag!
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ira Deorum Velian gives up looking for a drag and turns on his <*><|Bot|><*>.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: did the wrong rendition of that social the first time :)
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Hah. Apple rejects BitTorrent control app Drivetrain -- 'Proving that they either don't understand what BitTorrent is or they're just not willing to touch anything with the slightest hint of a piracy association, Apple rejects an iPhone application that remotely controls the BitTorrent client, Transmission. Their reason? "This category of applications is often used for the purpose of infringing third party rights." By that logic, they'd better reject Safari while they're at it. To complicate matters, they've actually already approved a BitTorrent remote control called Trackr that, incidentally, supports remotely adding torrents to Transmission and uTorrent.'
T1/r6/2009-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Heh. I will never complain again about Captcha after seeing some of these: http://www.masalatime.com/?p=2822
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Ok, I just downloaded the new version of mushclient.  How do I get it to log onto Aardwolf with my name and password without having to type it every time?
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: by being awesomer
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Awesomer can do this?
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: game->configure->connecting
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Game->configure->connecting
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: alt-enter and look at the General->connecting
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: diku-style
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: awesome Balaam
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Kewl!
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Thanks.
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: crazy people with your saving passwords in things.
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I declare it insane because it is something I do not do.  Actually, I also declare most things I do insane.  Everyone is crazy!
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mitragyna Tech: ok, last time i'll ask this (i keep forgetting)
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mitragyna Tech: how do i shut off the help pop ups in the mush client?
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: file -> plugins, select Aardwolf_Help, click disable
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mitragyna Tech: thank you. i kept trying to find it under help...
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: Anyone knows how to disable the semi-colon to seperate commands to several lines in the aardwolf mushclient?
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: Game->configure->commands, untick the box labelled "seperate commands with:" or something similar
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: thanks ^.^
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: where madcatz mentioned, Command Stacking
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: Or do you just mean for one particular command that you want to enter?
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: I was unable to type ";D" before :)
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: If you just want to send a semicolon to the mud with that option still enabled, you can type ;; to send a ; to the mud
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: oh
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: ;D ^.^
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: works great :D 
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothing Noplacebo Tech: does anyone know an ubuntu 9.04 repository with mushclient?
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: probably not as it doesn't really run on linux...it runs within wine
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just install it
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=8380
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothing Noplacebo Tech: ahh, cheers.
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when in doubt, http://www.mushclient.com/search.htm...i typed wine and it was the first link
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothing Noplacebo Tech: too easy. thanks for the help abelinc.
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: if i somehow seperated my mud window from zmud how do i reattach it
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: Is there a way to make so the character automatically drinks a healing potion if health drops below 30%?
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: with the aardwolf mushclient
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: how would I do that?
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you've already got health info from the statmon plugin
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: you can build an autoquaff from the statmom plugin health info?
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd need to create a function to look at those values and do your quaffing when they fall below
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: is there any examples on the web for this? or maybe in the helpfiles?
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why not, gregor?
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there would be instructions both on the web and in the helpfiles, yes
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: I was asking, that would save a lot of maths functions and things maybe
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: like much quicker than building from scratch
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, the whole point of the stats plugin is to get the info for other plugins to use
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: what is this type of thing called? 
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: so you'd have to tell MUSH to trigger from stats world not main window?
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: and where can I find the docs for the stat plugin? ^.^
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: xStats_Detector is the plugin that grabs all the variables
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rogos, you look at the plugin itself
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you open up the plugin, it tells you how to use its values
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: I'm not sure if I had it loaded, but added the stats_detector to plugins
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to file -> plugins, select the xStats_Detector plugin, click "show info", then click "close"
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: ooh there
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: showing the info tells you how to access its info in your own plugin
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gammon is pretty good with commenting his stuff
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: rare in his species
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: all this is in lua right?
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes rogos
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yeap
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and yeah, he's a lot better at commenting than I am ;-)
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: comment's...BAH! I just do it again if I dont understand it after couple years :D
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I have discovered a truly marvellous proof of this, which this margin is too narrow to contain
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: use the quote channel
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Honestly, Abelinc prefers to use the STFU channel
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: so when I write lua code, I treat myself as a mob? and use mdo(command) to execute commands?
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: Where do I add my own lua scripts? like an autoquaff script?
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: aardwolf mushclient
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: who wants to script my programming homework for me ?
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: there's this mud called aardwolf and i need to make an undetectable bot. the better the bot the better my grade
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: okay set a trigger on the word 'the' to pray I'M BOTTING
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: should do ya
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Denglish chuckles at Wyverex's joke.
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: awesome thanks. how much do I owe ya ?
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: 2398 tps
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: I'll have it next week tuesday
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: good
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: i'll break your kneecaps if you don't
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: I'm parapalegiac, I wouldn't feel it
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: and i'll stuff your shins with anchovies
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: but you'd smell that one ;)
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: can someone help me?...I can't see videos on youtube,it says maybe I have my javascript turned off,but dunno what to do
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: why not just use the backdoor you put into his bot to take it over?
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: can someone help me?...I can't see videos on youtube,it says maybe I have my javascript turned off,but dunno what to do
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rithlin Tech: what browser?
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: IE
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Do you have flash installed?
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: get firefox :P
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Devil Remps nods.
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Argetlam is agreeing with that Ozzy person again...
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: I have the latest flash installed with ie 8
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: is / a command in aardwolf, or is the aardwolf mushclient making it use "recall"?
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: It is a command.
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: /=recall
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: a 2d array starts at 0 or 1 ?
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: I'm trying to do /world.note world.getuniqueid  like the sample_plugin.xml is telling me to do to get a unique id
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: the default is language specific
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: generally speaking ?
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: generally the default is language specific 
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Habasi slams out a quick rimshot at Myopic's comment.  she's hot tonight!
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: press shift+ctrl+6 and check your script prefix
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: unique id in zmud... #show %leftback(%comget(%comcreate("Scriptlet.TypeLib"),"Guid"),2)  ... in case anyone ever needs
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: english only on public channels please
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: which command in the lua code do I use to send a command like "quaff lotus"
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mad Hermit Starky Tech: SendNoEcho Quaff Lotus
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: thanks
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: Send
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: Abelinc, Hi, I'm having a few problems with my lua scripting, when using the xStats_detector.. When I send a command it kinda loops it and sends a lot of it!
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have the command increment a variable
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: Abelinc, when I used the print function it only printed once, but when I use SendNoEcho or Send it sends it a lot when I change room
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and check for that variable, so it will only quaff once per xx seconds
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're strictly just checking HP% on statmon and sending quaff, then every prompt will re-do that check and send
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: Are there any testing rooms that won't disturb people if my script decides to rampage? :P Just had 15x says in a few sec because of this
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: until health is over the %...but you won't know that health is over the % until after a few commands
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mad Hermit Starky Tech: change the says to gtell
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mad Hermit Starky Tech: you will see them but nobody else will
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or change it to use "echo"
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: echo goes to nobody but you
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: great, I'll do that
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: or echo for a private chan
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: echo's great, because you can even be grouped and I don't think it can nochan you...but it also has no history
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: spouse works non married too doesnt it?
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I guess so...I'm married ;-)
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: me too, dont remember
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mad Hermit Starky Tech: dont think it does
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mad Hermit Starky Tech: yeah it doesn't "You are not able to access the spouse channel."
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Rogos, type spouse test  <-- see if it works? :P
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ahh
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: not able to access the channel
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: need a bachelor channel :P
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: Abelinc which property on the stats_detector gives hp percentage?
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: talktoself.... You talk to yourself, '....
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: talktoself.... {chan ch=nuts}You talk to yourself, '....
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: found it, now lets see if I can manage to make this autoQuaff script ^.^
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santeria Tech: why not make a quaff macro
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santeria Tech: so that way its not goin off when your doin something
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: macro? I'm relatively new to muds in general ^.^
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: do take a look at help botting before playing around with scripts too much :)
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the hp % variable from the plugin is hp_percent
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ubiquitous Vexthorne Tech: a script will automate an action for you, not letting you dictate when you do it
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ubiquitous Vexthorne Tech: a macro is like a shortcut but you still have to enter in the macro command
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: so, like an alias?
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: ooh, this is not allowed?
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ubiquitous Vexthorne nods at Argetlam.
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: macro is a keyboard shortcut, wike winkey-r = run dialog in windows
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it should be allowed...help botting used to actually use autoquaffing as an example of a legal trigger
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: Autoquaff is ok I believe just be careful not to go afk in a agro room
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mad Hermit Starky Tech: no thats an alias ozzy a macro is you hit a key and it performs a set of action slike f1 to quaff
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the helpfile was reorganized when some restrictions were further lifted and it no longer contains that example, but that shouldn't have changed its legality
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, being afk in aggro room is the illegal part, not the quaffing itself
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: winkey-r is a macro
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: I'll just add a check, if char is afk the script disables itself
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: starky, different clients use different definitions for macro & alias
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: in zmud #KEY F1 {quaff lotus} <-- macro, #ALIAS ql {quaff lotus}... alias :P
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for me, "spellup" would be an alias, "/spellup" would be a macro...f12 would be a keybind ;-)
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ubiquitous Vexthorne Tech: question of my own, if i have scripts installed but no longer have the original scripts, is there a way to extract the script to the original text file the way it would have been installed?
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ubiquitous Vexthorne Tech: (this is zmud)
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vex, depends on the client
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i.e. export :P
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: may depend on whether the script uses a class?
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santeria Tech: abel can you bind any key or only the "F" keys?
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: any key
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santeria Tech: hrm thats kinda nifty
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: a macro might be much easier then, I could also have my combat spells on keys then
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: in most clients, any key or key combo
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: then having to learn lua just to make an autoquaff script :P
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santeria Tech: well your combat spells wont have any targets so alias is probably better
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santeria Tech: if you macro em
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a macro wouldn't replace the autoquaff...the autoquaff would use the macro
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ubiquitous Vexthorne Tech: looks like the ones i want to export do have classes, abe
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: another nice feature of statmon is you can dual purpose keys, *=attack, if fighting *=send attack skill/spell
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I use the in-game alias for combat spells
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: is there a way to identify items in inventory to categories? like healing potions, levels they are, and so on
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: like if I want to filter all healing spells over level 40
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santeria Tech: abel why ingame?
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: partial... eqdata
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: invdata
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rogos, you'd need to script your client to look at the item's levels, and to know what types the items are from an internal database
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I wish the invdata was completed
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: Any such script available somewhere?
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nodnodnod Abe
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the example page gammon had up was an amazing concept
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rogos, not likely publicly for mush
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: eqdata is pretty decent already for "dressup" scripts
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but I'm glad that you reminded me of the commands, they popped back into my head the other day as something I wanted to script, but it'd been a while since I played with them
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: is there a helpfile for eqdata or invdata?
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nope
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: they were decoded on tech a few weeks ago though
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: dang, missed that conversation
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're a skunkworks project, not officially supported by the MUD
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it was a beta for a new feature which hasn't come yet
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i.e. dont waste tooo much time scripting around em.. could radically change :P
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: how do I remove the mushclient shortcuts? F1 seems to map to the help. and I can't map my macro to F1 then
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yeah, i figured that, just wondering about them
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: I usually end up just blasting everything in sight
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: mischan
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Global Pereferences->General, check the F1, F6 are macros option
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: easier to blast everything in a @target variable :P
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so that way, my fingers will just always know to use "cl" to heal (cure light), and I can change that alias to higher heals as I level
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mis :-)
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: #KEY KEY1 {quaff_heal} :P
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: this is heal spell, not quaffing.../heal is quaffing :P
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: quaff_heal casts if i have a spell and am out of pots
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i dont get the diff tween /heal and heal... both seem like aliases
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: #KEY KEY7 {#IF (@char_state = "Standing") {scan} {#IF ((@char_state = "Fighting") AND ((%ismember( Thief, @current_classes) AND (@current_level >= %eval( 152-(@tier*10)))) OR (%ismember( Warrior, @current_classes) AND (@current_level >= %eval( 133-(@tier*10)))) OR (%ismember( Ranger, @current_classes) AND (@current_level >= %eval( 137-(@tier*10)))) OR (%ismember( Paladin, @current_classes) AND (@current_level >= %eval( 149-(@tier*10)))))) {survey} {#IF (@debug = 1) {#SHOW {SCRIPT: You cannont scan while %lower( @char_state).}}}}}
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh... lot of work to scan if not fighting or survey if fighting and avail :P
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: can script it to be in status bar in zmud
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: is there an easy way to get the prompt to stick to the bottom or is that clientside.  
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: as opposed to scrolling with the text
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: tech -h 4
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: doh
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: sorry to spam
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: can do a #SPLIT in tt++... dunno how in others
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Anyone knows how to play sounds over SSH?
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sumalt Tech: does anyone know how to have two seperate profiles for two characters on Mush without losing all the tweaks the client comes with?
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: erm... what?
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sumalt Tech: let me try again :)
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: you mean like "Preload defaults from existing world" when you create a new world?
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sumalt Tech: I have two characters here and would like to have seperate alias profiles, ect.
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I just have two worlds, one for this character, and one for my alt.
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I share scripting files and a lot of aliases.
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malyk Tech: specifically when i switch between alts i save my aliases file and add 1 or 2 to the name and load the file as appropriate
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sumalt Tech: alright, thanks
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kazuma Tech: how would I write a regular expression pattern that matches any character minus without matching a empty space
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: [^ ] ? :P
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: ([^ ]*)
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods at Blessed Balaam.
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: well, mine is for multiple characters.
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Yeah, I forgot to add the + to it.
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Kazuma said 'any character', and I went overboard.
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kazuma Tech: very neat let me try that
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Well, both our answers are correct, though. Kazuma, the [^ ] means a range of anything but NOT whitespace.
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: anything not a space.
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kazuma Tech: so the way you wrote it charneus [^ ] that is for a single character right?
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: \S is not whitespace.
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Blessed Balaam rapidly nods twice at Kazuma, in complete agreement.
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kazuma Tech: awesome
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kazuma Tech: just what i needed
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kazuma Tech: so by having the ^ inside the brackets is that like the not operator or something
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: exactly.
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: http://www.amk.ca/python/howto/regex/
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: another ok one: http://gnosis.cx/publish/programming/regular_expressions.html
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: oh, might as well add one too. http://www.gammon.com.au/mushclient/regexp.htm
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: that one's probably better than the two i linked too
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: learning how to use regex is invaluable though.  learn how to do it once and you have it for life
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: and just so you don't drive yourself insane testing the regex... http://www.regextester.com/ is friggin awesome.
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: oh sweet thanks for that
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Until you have to switch languages and learn slightly different regexp notation :D
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: ya but it's still the same engine really
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Blessed Balaam nods at Trurien.
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Balaam: I use RegexTester myself. Love it.
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: regextester has pcre, ecre, and jscript.
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: can get confusing, but with a reference it's not too bad
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: they settle on jscript as the default regex for some mindless reason.
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: But I also downloaded RegexBuddy so I didn't have to be online! :P
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: umm... what's this "not online" you speak of?
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus grins evilly.
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sikai agrees!
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kazuma Tech: cool thanks for the links i bookmarked them all so far I've wrote a lot of things using regex without a problem
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: anyone have problems getting the aard-mush client working on vista?
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: no, I use Linux...  no problems. :)
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Denglish Tech: Works fine for me. On both machines with Vista.
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malyk Tech: i'm using it with vista
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: works fine for me on both as well
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: There are a few posts in the MUSHclient forums from when people had issues with Vista when it first came out.  If you have any difficulties, search there.
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: i just got a new machine... old one died.. has vista home on it... i downloaded and installed the client... but when i go to run it, i get a "application stopped working" error from vista
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: oh, that's because the application stopped working.
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malyk Tech: did you run it using administrator priviledges?
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malyk Tech: have you ran live updates?
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: i have no clue... i log in as myself... the only account on here
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: life updates? what is that?
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: and what do you mean old one died
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malyk Tech: live updates is a windows operating system way of updating your operating system with critical updates as they have found and fixed errors/bugs/etc
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: old machine... thunderstorm hit the house and blew almost all of my electronics
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malyk Tech: should be able to find it off of the start menu, live update is critical for windows
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: oh bummer...
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: gotta love home owners insurance though :)
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: paid for everything
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Vista or XP?
T1/r6/2009-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: this new box has vista home basic
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malyk Tech: that's what i've got, if it's a new system there's likely a ton of updates
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: currently using the fmud client off the website
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: do you game or anything with your compy
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: no just mud and chat... and i write software from home
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rampagne Tech: how do i make it so when i l in my inventory, bags or read help files it gives me the option to read it page by page.. it is just scrolling the whole thing
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: pagefile <lines>
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: perhaps
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: err pagesize is the command
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rampagne Tech: thank you :)
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: Anyone here use the Mushclient from the Aard website?
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i do
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: me too
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: but rogos and me runs it on gentoo :)
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: and you love emerge why?
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i see you levelled up! cant resist?
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: opps mis
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I tried installing it and none of the plugins were installed correctly?
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: why not?
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: Sikai, why not?
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: Another window popped up saying that there was an incorrect destination folder, so they didn't import.
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: because it's inconvenient and time consuming
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: its for the patient
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: incorrect destination folder?  hmmm vista?
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: Ccache <3
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: No.
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i will always prefer a debian based distro
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: it should have been straight forward.  download and install
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I thought so too.  No plugins that I try to install will work after I quit though.  When I quit, it tells me that it cannot save to file C:/something something...
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: Sikai i prefer to compile fit for my hardwares
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: ahhh only your plugins are not working?
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I know I'm not an administrator on this computer since it's a "work" computer.  Could that be the problem?
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i have a hard time believing there's a real advantage to compiling something on your machine
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: no, its not
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I've tried installing it 3 times and each time NO plugins folder is created....
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: Sikai you never used applications that need to
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: like what
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: thats strange culpable.  i cant help unless i have first hand experience of the error
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: OK.  Thanks anyways.
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: sikai applications for calculating things in the have to come in the future
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: calculating things that come in the future... right...
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: do you also believe if you put a giant spoiler on your car it will run faster?
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: the difference in 4 days run vs generic build is about 5 seconds worth of calculation.
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: a lot can happen in 5 seconds
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: -10
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: is there an ms access guru around for a simple answer?
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: give it a shot
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: how do i link another table to a form so i can access the data from it
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: i am trying to add first name and last name from client table :p
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: the easiest way I can think of is to do a query of all the tables.fields you need then use the form wizard on that query
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: I can add it via subform but i dont want a subform :p
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: thanks for your help
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: jagged one :p
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: hope that helps subform never seems easy to me
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: no, ive suffered from speed... i beg to differ
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: is tigernuts here? something for him to troll aboot - http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/05/13/intel_europe_fine/
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no tigernuts isn't here
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you can start trolling now. i'll go fix myself something to eat
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: intel aren't really worth talking about
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: because you're using amd cpu?
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: actually, this laptop is an intel
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: that laptop is a babbage engine
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: is it the laptop I helpfully watered?
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yes
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: has it grown?
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: because is a clumsy idiot
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: if you water a laptop does it eventually grow into a server ?
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Accurate Tech: dunno, why don't you try it?
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Accurate Tech: mine did
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I did
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: you grew into a server Chfut ? what did you start off as ?
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: PaperTiger Panzer mutters something quietly to himself.
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: dishwasher
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Ashkelon Tech: busboy?
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: chuft will never be a dishwasher
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: a nonrotating lazy susan server
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I already have a dishwasher
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft snuggles up to Dispel Majic.
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: really should try and find some more ram for this little laptop beasite
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 128 isn't enough these days
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i think i confused it: battery life remaining, 4%, estimate time 83:20 hours
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: The following is the error message I get when I try to install a plugin to my Mushclient that I downloaded from the Aardwolf site.  Line   35: C:\MUSHclient\Plugins\constants.lua was not found. (include file not loaded)
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does the file exist, and in that location?
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: check your plugins directory in file->global preferences
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I don't see that file there.  But shouldn't that have installed when I installed the program?
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: did you install the client from the aard web site?
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you installed MUSH to c: and not to default program files?
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: my plugins directory is currently C:/MUSHCLIENT/plugins
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: look in c:\MUSHclient\worlds\plugins
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GentooX claps at your performance. 
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what plugin did you download from the aard site? the spellup plugin is the only one I know of there (and I recommend NOT downloading it from Aard, as the aard download is missing TONS of info to get it running)
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I have Aardonoitus? plugins and that was the one I tried to install.  So should I point my plugins directory to world/plugins?
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: c:/MUSHCLIENT/worlds/plugins
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: where did you get aardonoitus?
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: any reason why you changed the default plugins folder? When you install mush, it makes it worlds/plugins.
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: rights
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: and mush puts all the default plugins in that folder also
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I didn't change it.
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I don't remember where I got it from.  I think from the Mush site.
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I just thought according to the Aard site that they had a channel capture and map capture plugin or script or something and none of that installed...
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's installed when you install MUSH from Aard's site...if yours is installed in C:\MUSHclient, it wasn't an Aard install
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: So I messed it up?
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: Where should it install to?
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: program files
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: Sorry, I use ZMUD at home :(
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: So should I uninstall this one and reinstall to program files?
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: iirc the aard installer doesn't give you an option to change the install location
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I downloaded it and clicked on it to install :(
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you may have had a previous install from the MUSH site and installed over that
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it works fine to install newer MUSHes over the Aard, but not to install the Aard one over older MUSHes
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: You can install any version over the Aardwolf one as long as it's a higher version
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: basically, the Aard installer sets some registry keys which rely on it being installed to program files
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you should be OK to just manually change some stuff around at this point though
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: it doesnt HAVE to be installed there though does it?  I know i installed mine right on a desktop folder on my work comp
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OmegaKnight Tech: So that way Aardwolf starts when you start MUSH, so if you jsut over install it keeps thatm just updates
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: look in C:\MUSHclient\worlds\Aardwolf and see if there are a bunch of files
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you have files such as Chats.mcl, Map.mcl, etc, then you've got the "stuff" to get it all working
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: if you want to make a portable mushclient, follow these directions: http://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/PortableMushclient
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I have those names, Abelinc, but they have .md as the extensions...
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I think that's just your font
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cl looks like a d
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I'm dumber than I thougt.
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: So how do I use those?
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, nah, variable-width fonts do that to people
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: have you made any other changes to mushclient?
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: No.
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: if not, i would start from scratch
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: download and install the aard client, then download and install 4.4 over that
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: When I installed Mushclient I had another tab that had 6 xml errors in it.
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I said something about no being able to find the right file to save into.
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: it
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are you installing as admin?
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I can't install as admin on this comp.  Is that my problem?
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: Someone earlier told me it shouldn't be.
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it explains a bunch of things, yes
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the installer had to "plan B" it, and it wasn't written to
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so it let you install somewhere else, but couldn't tell MUSHclient about the changes
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: So basically, I won't be able to fully install on this comp without admin rights?
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you will, there's just manual massaging to update MUSH about the changes
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: How do I massage?
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: do you have a computer close that you can install as admin?
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: No.
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: hmm
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drighton Tech: hey folks, not to derail the current convo, but have a quick question about the aard client ... chats are showing up in the Chats window as well as the main window ... can I make them only show in the Chats window?
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I'll be back in a bit for more info.   :)  thanks already for your help.
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: drighton, type "chats echo off"
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drighton Tech: oh great, thanks a lot! :)
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: OK, back.  Any ideas on how I can install this without admin rights?
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: give me a few minutes, I will point you to a download
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: thanks Bast.  You said something about installing the aardclient and then overinstalling 4.40?  Why?
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: to upgrade your client
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 4.40 moved lots of settings to a sql database, which makes things less-dependent on it knowing where it is installed
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I see :p
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: miniwindow plugins
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: i am trying to download an .htaccess file with an ftp client. i'm able to download with no problems, the file doesn't appear in the download folder however.  any thoughts?
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: hidden?
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: .files are hidden in unix
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not supposed to be shown....htaccess file is a config file for the web server to use
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arc Tech: ls -a
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: it was hidden yes. i figured it out now :)
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oops, yeah, ftp
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just use its name
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: had to download it as another name
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ftp client should have an option to show the hidden files, or you can see/get it using command line ftp
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: yeah, had to show hidden files :)
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: SQL question again ... oh and i believe its a 3 selects in the one statement for those that dont have a sore head as yet
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I don't know.  Let me check
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: to provide a count of objects that may or may not be in stock would i use a not exist an exist to make a temp list for the highest layer to select the output from ?
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: ie output would be say .... marbles 5 marblebag 0 dice 5 etc
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: the tables dont have a total in stock amount .. its seperate lines in a second table :p
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: ie count(marbles) output is 3 after GROUP BY
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: bast Shoot I can't copy and paste the error.  I did make sure everything is in the correct file now.
T1/r6/2009-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: ok, so I used #play to start a mp3 file on zmud, any idea how to stop it? #me stop doesn't work
T1/r6/2009-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: does anyone here know how to create a pandora battery for PSP?
T1/r6/2009-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: not the physical one
T1/r6/2009-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: I want instant internet lol
T1/r6/2009-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: considering you can mud, I assume you have internet now.  What is more instant than now?
T1/r6/2009-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: firefox is screwing up
T1/r6/2009-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: Using the aardwolf mushclient, each time I go somewhere the bigmap updates. the bigmap window gets focus, so I have to click the main aardwolf window to keep mudding. This happend today, anyone knows how to fix the problem?
T1/r6/2009-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: whats the keys to bookmark in firefox?
T1/r6/2009-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immanuel Tech: Ctr + D
T1/r6/2009-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iker Tech: Anyone know a place I can read about getting the zmud automapper to work?
T1/r6/2009-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondy Tech: is 7.1 channel integrated sound good enough or should I fork over $75 for a sound blaster card?
T1/r6/2009-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Depends on whether or not you want to deal with Creative's crappy drivers.
T1/r6/2009-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondy Tech: so a stock sound card is good enough?
T1/r6/2009-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Depends on what you're doing.  For general use, I'd say most likely.
T1/r6/2009-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: depends on what you are looking for.  That's what I use, but I don't care about sound.  Any of my friends who are obsessed with sound use non-Creative addon cards.
T1/r6/2009-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: and don't get an X-fi card if you use SLI with an nVidia chipset.
T1/r6/2009-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seregil Tech: can someone give me a good idea of where to move my website too now that geocities is closing down.  I can't afford to buy a good one.  But I want to keep up my family website with all my kids.  I have it for years and there's like a page of every year of their lives
T1/r6/2009-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: dreamhost
T1/r6/2009-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: put it where you get your Internet access from...they all offer pages
T1/r6/2009-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: fatcow.com
T1/r6/2009-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seregil Tech: how does it compare with geocities?  Similiar
T1/r6/2009-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: You could also use freeweb, if they're still around.
T1/r6/2009-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seregil Tech: well, my internet access if free.  I have a lifetime tech support account from when I worked at Radio Shack so that wonjt work
T1/r6/2009-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: If you are willing to spend a few bucks a month, GoDaddy or Dreamhost aren't bad
T1/r6/2009-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Eww, GoDaddy...
T1/r6/2009-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sikai is agreeing with that Apprentice Oladon person again...
T1/r6/2009-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: What's wrong with them?
T1/r6/2009-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: That's the one that registers domains just because people search for them.
T1/r6/2009-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seregil Tech: I would be willing but just can't right now.  I have the 3 kids and the bad job
T1/r6/2009-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: That's not GoDaddy, that's Network Solutions, Oladon
T1/r6/2009-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Or was
T1/r6/2009-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Seregil, try freeweb
T1/r6/2009-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seregil Tech: that's what I'll do.  I appreciate it everyone.  And it's not horribly complicated Oladon
T1/r6/2009-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seregil Tech: ?
T1/r6/2009-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seregil Tech: I've tried several that I think you'd need a phd in computer science to build a simple webpage and then several were so slow that I got fed up with them.
T1/r6/2009-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insaniac Xioustic Tech: YEEESSSS my MythBuntu box is working after 32 hours straight of no-sleep technological wrestling and drugs on the lower end of the speed spectrum.
T1/r6/2009-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Seregil:  Can you make a web page using a text editor?
T1/r6/2009-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Nah, Freeweb is pretty simple.
T1/r6/2009-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Anyone have an idea which plugin is possibly gagging my rname tag?
T1/r6/2009-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: for mush
T1/r6/2009-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: is it possible for my mush-alias to call another mush-alias?
T1/r6/2009-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: yes
T1/r6/2009-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Yes, set the send to to Execute instead of World
T1/r6/2009-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Yep
T1/r6/2009-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: change 'send to world' to 'execute'
T1/r6/2009-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: thanks
T1/r6/2009-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: anyone uses tinyfugue?
T1/r6/2009-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doa Tech: anyone done validation rules in access 07 before ?
T1/r6/2009-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: with mush, how do i access the wildcard variables in my script functions w/ jscript
T1/r6/2009-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: nvm i think i got it
T1/r6/2009-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: is avira a good anti-virus program?
T1/r6/2009-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: i use AVG
T1/r6/2009-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: imgburn is screwing with me. recommendations for an alternative?
T1/r6/2009-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: it not screwing with you sounds like an alternative.
T1/r6/2009-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: For CDs or DVDs?
T1/r6/2009-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: DVDDecrypter is pretty much the exact same thing, but only works for DVDs
T1/r6/2009-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: thanks. write speed drops to nothing after a while for no apparent reason :\
T1/r6/2009-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: I don't actually use DVDDecrypter for writing, only for reading...so no experience either way with that.
T1/r6/2009-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: Anyone knows how to get TinyFugue to work with numpad?
T1/r6/2009-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir points at you.  How rude! 
T1/r6/2009-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: Abelinc, are you here? ^.^
T1/r6/2009-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: I want it to work via PuTTy and in gnome-terminal when I'm on the machine. I can't quite figure out the /help keys in tf
T1/r6/2009-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: %keypad=on <-- this is the one part confusing me, I have no idea on where to use this variable
T1/r6/2009-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: when I press 5 for example with numpad off, I get "center" as the configuration A shows. but how do I bind my macros to them? 
T1/r6/2009-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: ooh I think I solved it ;D
T1/r6/2009-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: yeah, just one problem, up and down keys doesn't do north and south. they still have the tf clients binds to go up and down in history
T1/r6/2009-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: Abelinc send me a tell when you see this
T1/r6/2009-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: what dialect is much regex
T1/r6/2009-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: mush*
T1/r6/2009-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Sikai: do you mean for triggers or do you mean one of the scripting languages?
T1/r6/2009-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: for triggers and aliases go here: http://www.gammon.com.au/mushclient/regexp.htm
T1/r6/2009-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: it's perl regex right
T1/r6/2009-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: for triggers
T1/r6/2009-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yeah, pcre (perl compatible)
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: hmm how come light'se
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: hmm how come light's map web page no longer displays the full list of maps?
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it does, just click the button
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ack! you're right
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: gah the search button is no longer clickable if you don't enter anything in the search box
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: if i want to highlight some text with a trigger in mush, how do i prevent the original line from showing up
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: omit from output checkbox
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: but when i check that, it omits my colour note
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: What(more specifically) are you attempting to do?
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: send to script after omit.  Last option on the dropdown.
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: ah cool thanks balaam
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: there we go that did it
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: thanks to you darkknowing as well
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: wonder if there's a way of disabling backspace as a shortcut for "back" in ie
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: on linux firefox it comes disabled by default :P
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: unfortunately, linux disables everything else by default, including some of your hardware and almost all of your pre-existing software ;-)
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: in firefox there's a plugin that you can use to control shortcuts.  I disabled crl-q
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Farkyss:  This is the closest I could find...  remap the backspace key: http://www.randyrants.com/sharpkeys/
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faerlun Tech: how do i make a simplke sound trigger in zmud?
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: #TRIG {make sound stuff} {#BEEP}
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: zmud requires to be able to play the simplke.wav instead of the default #beep soundwave
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faerlun Tech: something like this? #TRIG {You may now quest again} {#simplke.wav}
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faerlun Tech: or can i use another soundfile?
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: #TRIGE {blah} {#PLAY underzmudfolder/subfolder/name.wav,mp3,mid,others}
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i think in path works as well.. like windows folder
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: try on command line #PLAY ding.wav
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: #PLAY c:/windows/media/ding.wav  <-- worked for me
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faerlun Tech: well, i tried #PLAY c:/windows/media/ding.wav in command line, but no sound
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faerlun Tech: ahh.. i see
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faerlun Tech: i have multiple HDD's
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: #PLAY {E:/Music/Rock/AC-DC/Back In Black/ACDC - Back In Black.mp3}
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that worked too
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: good song too
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh... there is no #STOP :P
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: #PLAY something else?
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: #play a wav... plays it.. doesnt stop the mp3
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: this sounds wierd... acdc in zmud, the doors in winamp :P
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faerlun Tech: #TRIG {You may now quest again}  #PLAY F:\Program Files\zMUD\Aardwolf\Sounds\Untitled.wav (no sound on this one... :S)
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: enclose the name in {}
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faerlun Tech: the wav file?
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: #TRIG {You may now quest again}  {#PLAY {F:/Program Files/zMUD/Aardwolf/Sounds/Untitled.wav}}
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: and i think you need / slashes
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: and you might wanna anchor it...
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: #TRIG {^You may now quest again}  {#PLAY {F:/Program Files/zMUD/Aardwolf/Sounds/Untitled.wav}}
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faerlun Tech: {#PLAY {F:/Program Files/zMUD/Aardwolf/Sounds/Untitled.wav} ^ syntax error
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faerlun Tech: for some reason it won't trigger the soundfile
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: Anyone knows how to get uim to work with Xterm?
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: can anyone help me solve a bug in a script?
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: if i want to run a cycle using for in LUA, can i do this:
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: for i = 1, %1 do
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: and then Execute "where ".i.".%2"
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: check out http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=9246 :-)
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: i know that one, i'm trying to adapt it
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: i just need to run a cycle with where commands from 1 to n
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: shareware ?
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: not shareware
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: sacred 2 that is
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: that sucks, customers buy a game CD/DVD but then require to download and burn another CD/DVD of patches
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: Abelinc, ok so I can't solve this tail issue. how can I change the mapscript to add the map instead of rewriting the whole file each time?
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: I have 12 wishes, they are: Spellup1 Spellup2 Nohunger Nomarbu Keepall Passdoor Statcost Exprate Duration Pockets Portal Pockets2 Current Adjustment: 2400.
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: http://ozzy.pastebin.com/f2eabd2a4
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: syntax: wishto <channel>
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rogos, in abemap.tf, change the "w" to "a", in do_start_map_capture
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: Abelinc, which version of tail are you using to get it to work?
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I use BSD's tail
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: works ^.^ not instant updated like the mushclient but will work when I connect to this comp via ssh :P
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: Now to get the spellup script / pot script to work that you made ^ .^ 
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: yea, a 1 second tail follow would still not be very instant
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: thanks, now it works. how come I can't send you a tell? 
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: Do I need to /set-level each level I gain?
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: /got-level increments
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: after exceuting spellup once, it will recast them when they run out later right?
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no...when I wrote the spellup script, that wasn't a legal option
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: oh, just assumed since the spellup script for aardwolf mushclient does that ^ .^ 
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mine was written 6 years before that
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: ^.^
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the botting rules changed
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: anyone know of an sybian based mud client?
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: for nokia mobile
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: I'd use ssh and connect to the home comp and use tinyfugue :P
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: heh to complicated... then better just use java client since nokia e71 has full java support:P
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: couldn't you use telnet (or symbian equivalent) to a linux box running a console based client there?
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad angel Ghaan Tech: Smartphones arent really for mudding, maybe just as a last resort....
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: you can use screen that way, can stay connected
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: wondering if there is a client designed for small screens that's why i was asking pretty sure i can use java client:P
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: anyone know why my gauge button has a color for for when my align is 2500-0 but when it goes negative no color shows up even though i have the low gauge set to -2500 and the high set to 2500
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what client? what's the capture method?
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure the - is captured in the capture method?
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: zmud
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: i am using a variable
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: it captrues from the statmon
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: i have the button value set to my variable and the hgih gauge set 2500 and the low set to -2500
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do you use a single "master" statmon capture trig, or a specific capture trig for the align?
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd look at the trig to make sure it's even firing/capturing the variable when negative
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: yea it captures it negative
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: the numbers change as my alignment changes
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: it will go negative or psoitive
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: so the numbers work
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: its the colors that are not changing
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, OK
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: i added some buttons that take advantage of fiendish's captures
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: so i am using his 
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in zmud, are the colors automatic (like 1/3rd each red/yellow/green?)
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: what do you mean?
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: you get two colors for high gauge and low gauge
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: gauge max and gauge low
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: possibly zmud doesn't deal with a scale that crosses sign boundaries...can make your variable statmon's capture + 2500, and then have the button go 0-5000?
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: hmmm
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: any tintin++ ninjas around ?
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I've never used zmud, and haven't seen that particular issue come up on tech chan (where all my zmud "experience" exists), but that will at least definitely work
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: zmud was built on tintin syntax, so people may possibly be able to help even w/o knowing tintin specifically
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: might be universal even, i have an #action {You lost your concentration while trying to cast %1} {cast "%1"}
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you have complex tintin/wintin questions, cartman is good with it
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: cool deal. thank you
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd suggest not using that trigger for it...instead use spelltags
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: try to unquote %1
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: that works well until i am trying to cast spellups on someone else, then fail and try to cast it on myself again instead of the other person.
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: trigger on {sfail}%1,0,1,-1...and cast %1
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your way isn't any better on that ;-)
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it doesn't say you lose concentration while trying to cast on <target>
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: only thing to do is variable a target, and cast %1 targetvariable
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: tt++, #alias {k} {cast torment} : then for example "k naomii" returns "Cast torment on whom?" instead of casting torment on naomii. with #alias {kill} {cast "dispel magic"} it works fine, kill naomii casts dispel magic on naomii. is this an osx thing maybe, works fine on my linux box.
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: you can do that alias mudside
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: true, but i really want to know why i cant get it to work proper clientside.
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: I'm on tt++ and #alias k {cast cyclone} works with k mobname
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: also on a mac, so I'm not sure what your problem could be
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: i works for me too on my linux box, but im trying it on the family apple with tintin++ and it wont work, but kill alias "dispel magic" with kill mobname just fine.
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: if i change it to #alias {ki} {cast torment} it works just fine, why not with k ?
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: I'm generally the goto guy with tt++ on the tech channel... and I've got no idea.
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: Why doesnt my bigmap ever work?
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zaraf Tech: Are there any programs that you can use to clean up mp3 files?  I have some mp3 files which are recorded as a voice lecture, but in places the sound is very loud and difficult to understand....is there a way to cut out all of the high interference and stuff?
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Audacity
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zaraf Tech: audacity can do it?
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Javrixx Tech: i know sound forge can
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Javrixx Tech: i use it to make my mp3 ringtones
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zaraf Tech: ok, I'll try both of those
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zaraf Tech: is sound forge free?
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: wasn't audacity renamed from cool edit pro?
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Javrixx Tech: nope
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Javrixx Tech: no to soundforge being free
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zaraf Tech: ok thanks
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daeleon Tech: OK, I did *something* and am now seeing a whole list of stats with my prompt - how do I turn this off?
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: statmon
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daeleon Tech: Thanks
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are you also seeing things like {chan ch=tech}?
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: i asked the same question a few days ago ;)
T1/r6/2009-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daeleon Tech: I'm all set now.  Thanks :)
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: How in mush, would i go about triggering off of a remote social? (Not triggerable on cahnnels)
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Use regexp and anchor it.
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: I tried but i can't get it to trigger
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: What's your phrase?
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Someone sneaks up behind you and gently bites your neck, you turn around and see * with a drop of blood on * lip.
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: also tried adding * in front with another anchor.
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: You don't have any anchors in what you pasted...
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: i was afraid to just leave it starting with * or it would trigger anytime someone 'necks' me on any channel
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Right, that's why you have to escape the first *
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: So that it's a literal * and not a regexp *
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: how do i escape it
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Dunno, figure out what MUSH's escape character is. Perl regexp escape character is \, zMUD is ~ iirc... try both.
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: (one at a time)
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: And anchor it.
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: i think its |
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: i think its \*
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: lemme test
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Probably. So put that with a ^ before it.
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Is it possible to use something similar to #sub in MUSHclient?
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Richh Tech: does anyone know how I can run a client that gives me all of the windows (maps, stats etc) on a mac?
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charne Tech: hi
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: anyone use wine on mac?
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avenkal Tech: is it possible for me to play aardwolf on my phone
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: if the whone has a telnet client it should be possible
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nec Tech: I tried playing it on my PSP... it was annoying not having a keyboard.
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avenkal Tech: i have a samsung rant
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i'm getting my head twisted up with stylesheets here
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i have a style applied to a div tag called #sidebar. How do i refer to an <a> element within #sidebar if i want to set up a different set of styles for that?
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: reference the sidebar and then put a space and then {a}, can use the {a.hover}, {a.visited}, etc. if you want...
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: ta
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: cracking job
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: np, I used to do web design as a consultant... CSS is easy for me, as is SQL.
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: isn't a.hover supposed to define properties when the mouse pointer is hovering over a link?
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: yes.
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: yup
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: hrm, it's ignoring me then
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: only if you're within an a block though, i think
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: is it a link you've already visited?
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: bah, fecked off with it now, it's resisting any method of putting a border round this damned picture when a mouse goes over it
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i thought the whole idea of cascading stylesheets were that an element inherits all the properties from it's parent, EXCEPT the ones you override?
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: turns out MS expressions is a bit crap after all
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: omfg, you can't even lay out images and test on it, how crap is that? they wander all over the page like ants
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Can anyone recommend any open source proxy servers for Linux?
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondy Tech: does connecting to a wireless back port slow down your connection?
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: squid
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wireless back port?
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armondy Tech: direct line into the wireless device
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kazuma Tech: I am checking out mushclient for the first time and trying to write a couple simple scripts, I have a script that does some math on a some values and at the end I want it to output those values to group tell gt however for some reason the lua send() function does not seem to work
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why would that slow down your connection?
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kazuma Tech: I have the output set to script
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maloroc Tech: will actually speed it up - 100Mb/s vs theoretical 54Mb/s
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: the only time it will slow you down is when the pin plug doesn't seat correctly
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wifi is still faster than your Internet access, so it's not the bottleneck
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: kazuma, capitalize the "s"
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kazuma Tech: DOH! ok let me try that
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kazuma Tech: Perfect! thanks Abelinc
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Abe: do you have experience with Squid?
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUSH is quite specific with its capitalization
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: squid's been the main proxy in unix/linux systems for years...lots of commercial filter/firewall products are based on it
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I haven't touched it myself in probably 10 years, but used to use it at home
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Does it handle simultaneous sessions?
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can run entire campuses through it
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's functionally similar to Microsoft's ISA
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Thanks
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a caching proxy, can run it in transparent mode as an edge device, or can point the clients to it as normal proxy server
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: there is no way to net send from xp to vista or msg from vista to xp right? 
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dunno if vista installs anything by default to listen to that protocol...you could install something on it, or just install an IM client
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: nah, it does not run the messenger service
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: i tried both ways
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: nothing in or out
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: i think microsoft got rid of it because of sec. violations
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: i would have to get 3rd party
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, school kids loved screwing around with it
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: if i were on a domain i could just use task man and send messages from the users tab or wahtever
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: is there a way to log onto a windows profile from another computer in a workgroup or do you have to be part of a domain to do that?
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: you can use logmein.com
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: And remote connect.
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: yea RDC I know you can use
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: i think that is the only way to connect to another workgroup computer
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on what all you want to do with it...you can connect to it using its own credentials
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: that's what i meant
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: how can i log into my laptop from my desktop from the log in screen?
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: //computername/user did not work
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can mount its drive using \\computername\c$
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'll pop up asking for credentials...put \\computername\username for the username (it will need to be an admin user)
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and note that your slashes were backwards for windows ;-)
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: yea
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use the ones over the enter key, not next to shift
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: oh yea that i know how to do
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: i need a domain for what i want to do
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: and i can only do that if i have windows server right?
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: even with a domain if you're not using roaming profiles, logging into one machine vs another won't give you the same stuff
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: normal use of a domain, you can log into various computers, but all of your files are individually on different machines, without direct/easy access to them from another machine
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: yea i know
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: i am trying to word this right
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kazuma Tech: How would i do the equivalent of #T- trigger name or classname in mush
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can use EnableTrigger
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: easy way I checked that was glance at the Aardwolf_Map code ;-)
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kazuma Tech: awesome, thank you
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: If a plugin for MUSH is gagging my roomname tags, will i still be able to trigger off of them?
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as long as the tags are actually on
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: What is the rname prefix? isn't it {/rname}*{rname}
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you may want to just piggyback on that plugin's trigger though instead of creating what's essentially a duplicate trig
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no closing tag...just {rname}
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Idk what plugin is gagging it
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kazuma Tech: in cmud I use \n$ to fire a trigger off the first empty newline.... does anyone know what I would need to do to trigger off a blank line under mushclient
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can use regexp ^$ in either client to match specifically a blank line
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kazuma Tech: sweet that script is finished, thank you for all the help Abelinc
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: what dose the + sign do in zmud?
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: it adds numbers, or in the case of strings I believe it does concatenation
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: it's all handled internally, so there's no need to worry about variable typing
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or if in a regexp pattern, does the usual definition of "one or more instances of what I followed"
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i ment on the windows
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: How would i make mush do mathmetic functions, for the pupose of compiling damage dealt to recieved
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: right next to the scroll up function
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: no idea what that does
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: it made my cp mob window dissapear and would not come back -.-
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: click it! see what it does! ;-)
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You snicker softly.
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: darkknowing, in your trigger for damage being dealt, you can assign the variable to itself + captured number
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaymez Tech: How would I go about getting local map over to the side instead of on main screen?
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: jaymez, that would be a function of your MUD client...what client are you using?
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaymez Tech: muschclient
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the MUSHclient available on the Aard website does that already
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it ships with a map plugin that puts the map in a separate window
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaymez Tech: yeah I know. It was working before I recreated my char and now it not working
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: recreated your character in MUSH, or in Aard?
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try typing "tags map on"
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if that doesn't work, go to file -> plugins, make sure there's an Aardwolf_Map plugin and that it's enabled
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaymez Tech: thank you for your help. that worked
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monsieur Dorleac Tech: lil help, i get a parsing error when trying to install aard spellup plugin
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monsieur Dorleac Tech: anyone know anything about it? cant get the spellup plugin to work
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dorleac, did you get the plugin from aard's website or from MUSH's website?
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volans Tech: vista or xp?
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volans Tech: or is abe helping you in tells Dorleac?
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monsieur Dorleac Tech: sorry, got it from aard website, and i use vista
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't use it from aard's site, and actually read the info on the MUSH site...you probably just tried to click it, and your browser is trying to read the xml instead of downloading
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Is UAC off? That will cause issues also later on.
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volans Tech: I had to turn off the UUA in accounts in order for it to work
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monsieur Dorleac Tech: i have it downloaded, i get a parsing error when trying to install the plugin
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=8780 for where the plugin is on MUSH's website
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: make sure you have all the required plugins also
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the aard link is missing TONS of info required to get it to work...look at that page
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I REALLY wish they would take that link down, or point it to where you actually have a chance in hell of getting it to work
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monsieur Dorleac Tech: ok, i'll do all of that in a sec and check back
T1/r6/2009-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Are there any grep-like tools for Windows which utilize the context menu?
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ellie Tech: Anyone ever tried to fix yashiro's old spellup scripts to work with spelltags?
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: anyone here??
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: what's up?
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Denthril Tech: Hmmmmm?
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: having problems with my vista
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: I don't know much about vista, but what's it doing?
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Denthril Tech: I don't know much about vista but I can help with what I do know. what's up?
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: also it don't go in to safe mode+system restore points are gone
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: does it actually boot?
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: anyone has idea?
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: boot like after it gets stuck it should restart automaticly?
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: Does it ever reach the desktop stage when you turn it on is what I mean
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: yeah
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: so what's the problem with it?
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: works normal on deskop like 1min or so
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: then it gets stuck:S
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: how do you mean....stuck =P
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: all programs give not responding,cant start porgrams,star menu don't open and so on
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: so?
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: please:)?
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: where did everyone go?
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maul Tech: Anyone good at video editing?
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: hrm:(
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: nobody will help me?
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exorcist Jerome Tech: using mushclient, I would like to get the INFO messages in the chat window as well. Anyone who knows how to do that?
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: download the chats plugin from http://code.google.com/p/bastmush/
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exorcist Jerome Tech: try that, thanks!
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: does zmud support 3d arrays or just the 2d things that you get with @var.key ?
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Habasi goes, "Hmmmm."
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone wanna throw some ideas at an odd network problem i saw today?
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Feral Farkyss holds his roll of tape tightly and grins wickedly.
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: lol, that went a bit wrong
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: this thing on?
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: So who has a script for staying connected?
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ellie Tech: every1
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Not I
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Can every1 share?
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: If I did have one, it would just be a single trigger on "Your eyes glaze over."
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: just write a trigger to do something when it finds ^Your eyes glaze over.$
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: any network-knowledgeable types out there?
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: just ask the question
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: pc1, pc2, printer1, printer2, all networked throught a broadband router/modem, which acts as the dhcp server
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: sounds cool
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: all can access the internet ok (as needed), net view on each of the pc's only shows themselves
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: pc's can ping each other using ip addresses, and ping -a shows the pc names
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: try \\pc1 etc
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if you ping the other pc by name, fails
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if you try run-> \\pc2 from pc1 or run-> \\pc1 from pc2, fails
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: os?
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: yet if you try run-> \\<ip address of pc2> from pc1 or vice versa, worsk
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: one xp pro, one vista hb
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: only other thing of note is that in the router's attatched device list, the vista pc shows as "unknown" device name
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: if it has something to do with vista, then i'm clueless
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: only thing i came up with was that there was something wrong with the router/gateway
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: dns problem of some sort
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir nods.
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: though i often see these routers knowing connected pc's as "unknown" and don't know why
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: tried disabling all the firewalls, rebuilding/resetting the nics
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: changed workgroups
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: pretty much out of my own ideas, really
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: using ip explorer has no effect?
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if you use the ip address, you can access each other fine
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: though the vista pc won't talk to the networked printer properly
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: well, windows networking has always been a mystery for me. out of ideas here
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: shouldn't be any different to any other networking
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: is the chicken blood fresh, btw?
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: shouldn't, but i think it's way too obfuscated
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: is on vista, it's horrid
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: if I want to capture a word (character name) and store it in the variable pelluptarget, what would be the line in the trigger's action to do that?
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Which client?
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: err @spelluptarget1
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: zmud
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: any ideas?
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: It sounds easy, but I don't know anything about zmud
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: it's the one line I need to figure out yet, and I'm really inexperienced with mud client scripting.
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: wouldn't it be something like #TRIGGER{spellup *}{cast spell %1;cast spell2 %1...}
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: assuming you have the trigger pattern all set, a simple a=b command works.  spelluptarget1 = %1
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ominous Atom Tech: does anyone know if there is an updated version of yashiros spellup
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there is not
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: use a better one
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ominous Atom Tech: which would you suggest
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the one for mushclient is really nice
T1/r6/2009-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Blessed Balaam grins evilly at Ol' Dirty Fiendish.
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boden Tech: anyne know of any premade sound effect packs, sword slashing sounds, magic sounds, etc.
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boden Tech: ive found a good one on the internet, but that mostly just has the best lines from hundreds of movies
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: http://www.zuggsoft.com/zmud/msplist.htm#MUD%20Clients%20that%20support%20MSP
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: also, dunno any links that work anymore, but here is my copy of Astromud's... http://www.conradshome.com/astromud/AstromudSounds.rar
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: anyone here..got vista problem
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: like?
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: I avoid vista problems 
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GentooX is agreeing with that Duels person again...
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: ok give me a sec to write it
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: hopefully Gentoox can help you cus Im sticking with XP till win 7 probably
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: hopefully its simple enough cause my name suggest im a gentoo user :)
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: it starts normal, I can log in with np and then it gets stuck in about 1min after loging in and programs don't work/start and then it goes to black screen (mouse pointer still there and can move it) and gives me error window:Failure-securty options (logon process has failed to create the securty options dailog)
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: reformat!
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: no
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: seems like corrupted system file
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: could this vista repair cd help??
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: make a clean install like a man
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: or is there some other way to fix the corroped file?
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: can you restore from a previous configuration?  Software updates can apparently give tha terror.
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's windows. nuke it from the orbit and install it again
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: tha terror... heh.  That error.  Ah, correct words.
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the manufacturer setups suck anyway
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: you mean system restore?
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Blessed Balaam rapidly nods twice at Evil Bitch Sirian, in complete agreement.
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: ok give me a bit...will try it and get back to you
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: it may or it may not.  that kind of problem also suggest the file involved could not be loaded in memory. so 3 things.  either you have a just a corrupted file, or you have that file residing on a bad sector of your disk or you have a bad memory area
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: or AV programs are fighting each other.
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: but since its a logon process, i doubt its a case of AV. AVs are seldom loaded first, but most of them has an option to do that now load before anyhing else
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: he can start logging on, that should start up any AV program which will automatically start on loadup.
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: also why can't I start safe modes?
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: same problem...  they both use the same file
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: safe mode loads all fails and then gets stuck and don't start
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: can you run a disk check at all?
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I hope the restore CDs let you do that.
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: I had a nasty virus once that froze my login if I didnt do it quick enougha nd it wouldnt let me do a system restore in safe mode....  just a thought
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: once I removed the virus it all started working again
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: trying to do the restore right now..but it seems to be frozen at confirmin part...I hope it starts moving soon
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: lol thats what mine did I would chose the restore then click the button to do it and it would act like I never clicked the button... but Im on XP though
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: looks alomst something like I have...
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: how did you get it off?
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: um its took a while... I did avg adaware and windows one care scans... then I got an update or something for one care and it finally caught it.. but I dont know the best thing to do. I dont think many people even like windows live onecare
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: everytime a scan removed it it came back untill one care figured it out *shrug*
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: hmm..can't scan anything in 30-60sec when my cpu freezes:(
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: ok vista forum has something about it...sec will read it
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: stupid error...nobody knows what to do with it:S
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I said reformat.
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: http://www.vistax64.com/vista-performance-maintenance/125112-failure-security-options-logon-process-has-failed-create-dial.html
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely to Blessed Balaam.
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: that wasn't even like sarcastic or anything.
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: ft t|ra k|ll vist foorumis ka ei ole midagi lohid
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: ooo
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: ?
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: got any idea
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Was it Norwegian?
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: what?
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: Sirian Tech: ft t|ra k|ll vist foorumis ka ei ole midagi lohid <---- that
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: this seems to be really wierd problem as I read from google:S
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: no its not.  its one of those problem that a file cannot be loaded into the memory.  disk/memory/corrupted file/some application is not letting it go.
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: what the hell is onecare in windows?
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: I see most get it solved by uninstallin some anti virus soft:S
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: if you can't boot into safe mode, that shouldn't matter.
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: hrm any ideas?
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: will try restore again...but guessing it will not be quick enought
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: guess I will go check in cpu shop/repai
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: Anyone know why my mud window in zmud won't stick to the top bar anymore?  before i could drag it close and it would connect to it...now it doesn't do that and I have to drag both things seperately when moving the window around
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: layout -. lock layout ?
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: thanks:)
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: maybe you have to hold alt as well, there's an option somewhere that requires that
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: it worked
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: how i lockde it in the first place though...no idea
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: once you have it where you want it lock it again, that will stop most accidental changes
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: when i used zmud i found it was really easy to hit hotkeys and do strange things, especially on a laptop witha  trackpad
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: also there's an option to save layout but that it isn't perfect.
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: when i used zmud i found it was really easy to hit hotkeys and do strange things, especially on a laptop witha  trackpad
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: oops, up arrow hates me (still) =P
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: easy to hit enter twice too ;-)
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illith Tech: mudmagic is all right
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: yeah, I manage to hit keys that open strange things all the time. usually its ctrl or alt :(
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illith Tech: i lock my keyboard too
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: i would always "magically" create alias that did things (or made things not work more commonly)
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: well.. yet another bad mark on cMud
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: #SHOW %ismember(R,a|b|r|f|g|h|j|R)  (zmud=8) (cmud=3)
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what it is this time?
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: ha, not case specific, nice
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: apparently cmud lost CaSe sensitivity in ismember
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: cmud ignores case
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: %case( %ismember( %2, ~heme_colors), <--- it blows then
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: needa test and set for mud colors... so R and r are def diff :P
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: #ALIAS settheme { theme_color1 = %case( %ismember( %1, @theme_colors), high%char( 44)black, red, green, blue, cyan, magenta, brown, grey, high%char( 44)red, high%char( 44)green, high%char( 44)blue, high%char( 44)cyan, high%char( 44)magenta, high%char( 44)yellow, high%char( 44)white)}
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that's the jest of it
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: gist ?
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: cmus forces extra coding and use of %isupper
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: yea.. gist :P
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: more of a jest in cmud
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: lool
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitaro Tech: god im bored
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: so i would need to wrap that in a test for 0  1 of Red being upper?
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: %pos
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: invalid function %isupper
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: then cmud is foobarred 
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: detecting uppercase and lowercase in cmud is a lot more difficult if cmud is converting strings to lowercase -- trhat is a serious defect 
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: jeese that's a lot of extra code... #IF (%left(%1,1) = %lower(%left(%1,1))) {theme_color1 = %case( %ismember( %1, @theme_colors_low), high%char( 44)black, red, green, blue, cyan, magenta, brown, grey)} {theme_color1 = %case( %ismember( %1, @theme_colors_high), high%char( 44)red, high%char( 44)green, high%char( 44)blue, high%char( 44)cyan, high%char( 44)magenta, high%char( 44)yellow, high%char( 44)white)}
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: that assumes that cmud does not convert  %left(%1,1)  to lowercase in the #IF
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: why not use regex?
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i see cmud still suffers from dark ansi colors... and has no way to save/backup ansi colors like zmud had...
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: back to zMud :P
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: was Cmud written from scratch ? (instead of modified from Zmud)
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: he says it's a whole new client... but i bet the code was started from the zmud source
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: just a higher version of Delphi
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: a lot less likely if there are missing features
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: how much does the latest Delphi cost to purchase these days
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: or the newer Delphi does it in a new fashion and he didnt re-write the color saving routine
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: no clue
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: http://www.conradshome.com/screens/sshot_00010.png <-cmud
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: http://www.conradshome.com/screens/sshot_00011.png  <-zmud
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: all the Magenta Cyan are themeable... got it working in cmud... but the ansi is off... dont wanna take the time to set em all exact and not be able to backup the settings :P
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: took long enough to get the MXP colors the 1st time... $505050, $aa0000, $00aa00, $4b4bff, $00aaaa, $960096, $aaaa00, $aaaaaa, $ff0000, $00ff00, $3296ff, $44ffff, $C800C8, $ffff00, $ffffff
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: how do i change what windows runs/executes when a usb drive is plugged in?
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: which windows?
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: trying to get rid of U3 ?
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: xp
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: no the stupid thing is opening photoshop to preview pics everytime a memory stick is plugged in
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: in the autorun.inf on the drive.. hidden file
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ohhh...
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: nah not the autorun
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: http://www.conradshome.com/screens/sshot_00012.png
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: right click the drive.. goto autoplay tab
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: thnks
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: use the drop down to choose pictures... Select an action to take.. No Action
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: hmm that didn't work..
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: sure you chose Pictures in the dropdown box?
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: then click the radio button for "Select an action to perform", highlight "Take no action", click OK
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or go whole hog...start -> run, type "gpedit.msc...click the + for computer config, click + for admin templates, click system...on the right-hand side, double-click "turn off autoplay"...click "enabled", drop-down to all drives
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: or get tweakui and disable it there
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: autoplay is dangerous anyways... Sony anyone :P
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no need to use tweakui when it's already in the GUI tools shipped...but yeah, tweakui has that feature
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: tweakui is easier to navigate
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: http://www.conradshome.com/screens/sshot_00014.png
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: Anyone fimiliar with MUSHclient?
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thurgood Tech: Somewhat, whatcha need?
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: Just a few inquiries really, like for starters, How can I make the MUD more mobile with the features here.  Mobile meaning easier to play.
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thurgood Tech: I assume you downloaded the Aardwolf edition?
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: huh? that depends on your play style. there is no universal configuration
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: I feel I'm sitting on a ton of useful things within the MUSHclient.  Yeah I DL'd the Aardwolf edition
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: Well, for starters, MACROs, TRIGGERS, and other things within the MUSHclient Im sure isnt just there for fun.  No one wants to do things the hard way?
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thurgood Tech: Yeah, pretty much what Dagnir said, there are some plug-ins that I use, others I've disabled, really you just have to play for awhiel and you'll see what you need or don't need.
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thurgood Tech: Aha, I would definitely recommend you to the program's own helpfile, I've found it easy to read and very useful.
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: Not with Window's Vista
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thurgood Tech: Blah, true. :P
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thurgood Tech: I'll give you a quick rundown of a couple of things I use...
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: I see people unequipping things rappidly, and other things I'm sure is written somehow.  On my other MUD, macroing was easy.  I have some knowledge of it.
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thurgood Tech: Just a sec, have to finish a quest.
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: now that sounds more like a complex eq management script. again - people usually craft one for their own needs
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: Looking for the road to learn how
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: better start with something basic. a script for managing portals would be an easy one
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: You know, suit my needs.  Computer teacher taught me, the less keystrokes the better.  When your on as much as I am, you like things simplydone.
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nod. but there are few scripts out there that suit the needs of most people. like quest tracker etc. most stuff is very individual
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you'd be better off just asking for help on a script that suits your personal needs
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: think of something repetitive that you do often and ask for someone to help you script it
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: Well the automatic spellup is nice.  Detects when a spell isn't on and initializes it as long as you're not in combat...
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thurgood Tech: That's a game command. Just type spellup.
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also, read help spellup
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: No, it's a plugin written by someone to add to the preexisting spellup, Dagnir.
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i know. but you can use the ingame command
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: spellup 1 210 75 100 works well
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thurgood Tech: My bad, I wasn't specific enough. :P
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: Yes, but this does the spellup automatically... save from typing spellup everytime a spell vanishes
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: just alias that command to 'spellup' or something and it will work fine. no scripting needed
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: Cool now we're getting somewhere.  How do I make this alias?
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: recasting all spells is not that useful. i only recast stuff like accelerate, grey aura, lightspeed and underwater breathing. they can be cast in combat and are actually useful. rest of the stuff is cast when ever i hit the designated spellup key
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thurgood Tech: Yeah, I'd also advise against a trigger for that, it's probably enough just to set a short alias or even a macro if you want.
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: Ahh ok.  How does an alias work?  In much ways like the macro?
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thurgood Tech: I'll run you through an alias, they're very simple.
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no. alias is a command that executes pre-determined commands and macro is a key that executes an alias or string of commands etc
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thurgood Tech: Click on the 'a' with an arrow in your toolbar, or Shift + Ctrl + 9 to open the alias window.
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thurgood Tech: Click add
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thurgood Tech: The first line at the top, Alias: will be the command you want to initiate the alias with.
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thurgood Tech: I use alot of 3 letter combinations for my aliases.
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: So I could set aliases for speedwalks as well?
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thurgood Tech: Then just enter in the commands you'd like the alias to execute in the big box, seperated by enter each time.
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir nods.
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thurgood Tech: Yeah, the runto system is basically just that.
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: I like the speedwalk thing
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: runto paths suck big time tho
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thurgood Tech: Why is that?
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: 20-60 extra moves
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thurgood Tech: Ouch. :P Wasn't aware of that.
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: most portalwalks i use are shorter than 10
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: Which explains fast questing and gquesting
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir nods.
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: The collection of speedwalks and portals... I see
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: and aliases right?
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: iwuvaard has short speedwalk database
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thurgood Tech: Hm, guess I'll have to get around to that sometime. :P
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: Great.  How do I do the automated questing?
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: help quest
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i assume you mean autoquests, not quest bots :P
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: Lol yeah.  If I could write Lua, that would be a different story.  J/k
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: What does label, script, group, vairable and sequence mean in the alias' file?
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: High-techy lingo stuff?  Don't worry about it?
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thurgood Tech: Pretty much, or as far as my usage goes anyways. :P
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: Label is a name you give it to call it in other places.  Script it the script function to run when calling that alias/trigger.  Group is so you can place it in a group, so you can turn on/off a group at once.  Variable it where to place the contents of the trigger/alias if you have the "send to" box set to variable.
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: I'm sure there's a help button on that screen that would have told you all that ;)
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: yeah Mad, but Im using Vista
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: So? You can still view helpfiles in Vista.
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: Vista and the MUSHClient don't get a long
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Not true, Deori.
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: I tried opening it to no avail
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: So please, Im all ears
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: don't install it under program files
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It's because you have to download the program from Microsoft's website. Helpfiles no longer use Win32, so they created a patch, if you will. :P
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Installing it under program files has nothing to do with that, Dagnir.
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thurgood Tech: That patch didn't work for me unfortunately. :P
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: k. had the impression that most problems with mush are related to that
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: don't use vista or mush myself
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Don't know why it didn't work for you, Thurgood. I've never heard of anyone having an issue with it.
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thurgood Tech: Maybe I'll give it another whirl, that was awhile ago. Could be I just screwed it up.
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: So what patch do I look for?
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=6EBCFAD9-D3F5-4365-8070-334CD175D4BB&displaylang=en
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thurgood Tech: Well what do you know, like clockwork. Thanks Charneus, I have no idea what I might have done before, because this time there was absolutely no problem.
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus smiles happily.
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: Excellent, got it working.  Patches to patch stuff up =D
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: Thanks man
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods at Deori.
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: And thanks to everyone being so damned supportive, I appreciate it
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: good, now sod off
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: Sod off?
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: eh, groan, ok, let's not go there
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: No no, just curious what sod off meant, was about to google it
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It's a nicer alternative to using the f word? :P
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: Oh, how nice and... anger management type behavior. =D
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: heh, iw asn't angry, it was an attempt at sarcasm, but there we go
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: something don't come across proper in text form
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: Yeah sarcasm has a way of not landing in text
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: proper sarcasm doesn't
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: yeah, that's why smilies were invented
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: american sarcasm does, because it was designed for americans
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: like i could say, yeah you're cool
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: and be totally sarcastic
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: or not, depends on the viewers mood I guess
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what is the etymology of 'sod off' -- turf off or seethe off or sodomy off
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that's english english
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: from the country that invented the language
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thurgood Tech: From the Oxford Dictionary of Etymology (just happens to be sitting on my desk): Sod - gross term of abuse for a male person. XIX. sl. shortening of SODOMITE.
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thurgood Tech: Doesn't say anything about the idiom. Man is this off-topic.
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: So go and be a fag... wait that's a ciggerate, go and be a queer
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i happen to have oxford dictionary of idioms on my desk. give me a sec
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: cigarette, even
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: yeah typo even
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: throw another faggot on te fire 
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: go bum a fag is the proper term, anyway
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'll go and smoke a fag right now
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: I'm good without fags, I'm a non-smoker.
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hmm. no sods in the idiom dictionary
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: my wife lived in England for a few years, I'm going to ask some sauvy terms from her.
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: ask her if she's a chav
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thurgood Tech: I could check on the OED website, but I don't think it's that important. :P
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: anyway, english > american
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: 'sauvy' ?
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: 'savvy'
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thurgood Tech: I think he meant salvey, like pharmaceutical vocabulary.
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: or sauvy, intenting it to be suavy.
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i think xyliz is a bit of a lad
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: darkknowing too :P
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: Hah, she asked if your mom still has her spot of tea at 12?
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: and no, she's not a wiggga
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: sorry sorry, a white wanna be gangster
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: that term is wangster, wigga is something else entirely
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: sure she's just not a wag?
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'll leave tech for lads and lasses that want to talk about tech and go have a tea and a fag now
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: I was %100 accurate with what she told me, she said a chav is a wigga, a white wanna be gangster
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: or black person or whatever
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: a white wanna be black person? eh?
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: well wigga != white wannabe gangster
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: wigga is short for nigga
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: sorry, AKA
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: And how does this conversation belong on the tech channel?
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: when did this channel become gossip/curse?
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: wigga = scolding
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: scolding = burn caused by hot liquid
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: nigga is fine, it's when you say the other stuff.  We can thank the bloke Fark for the spark
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: hey, don't start blaming me for your nigga-talk
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: no that is scalding not scolding
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i'm ethno-neutral
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir is getting out before an imm busts in
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: wigging is a scolding
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Stick it Inicus is agreeing with that Seltsimees Dagnir person again...
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Darkknowing runs away from Filt in utter terror and horror!
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: In america, nigga is ok to say.  The deragatory term is, well you know
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: derogatory
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: anal
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: retentive
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: circumstpectful
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: circumspectful aha
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maloroc Tech: any "quick hit" ideas as to why a simple trigger based on "DISARMS you and sends" won't fire in mushclient?
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: It's because it's expecting to match an entire line, most likely
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: because there is "stuff" before the string you mentioned
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maloroc Tech: ah, ok - so triggers in mushclient are complete lines?
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: One solution is to simply mark the regexp box, and leave the trigger as is, or the second solution is to keep the regexp box unchecked, and add an * to the beginning and end of the trigger.
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maloroc Tech: ok cool
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maloroc Tech: thanks
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Habasi looks at you, smiles, then DISARMS you and sends yout trigger flying.
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: and thats why
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: once you get aard weapons I believe the line is 'DISARMS you and you struggle not to drop'
T1/r6/2009-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: When writing an alias, is there a wait command I can add?
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: i need some script help, i will pay mud currency for said help
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: What client?
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: zmud 7.21
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Not me then
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: what you trying to do?
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: count the time of a cp.
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: i want it to be minutes and seconds
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: umm, lessee...first, make the trigger to match whatever you want off the speech you get.  In that trigger, set the variable to whatever 7 days equates to in seconds.
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: is there a zmud function that does that?
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: #TRIGGER, yeah
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: i meant the time itself
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: not really.  You have a %time() function, but that only formats time
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: you also have the %ctime variable, which is how long you've been connected.  Then there's the %secs variable, which is only since midnight
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: wonder if i captured secs from start then captured the secs at the end
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: subtracted the start from end
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: then formatted hmm
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: don't think ZMud does time math...
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: well it would be very fuzzy
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kazuma Tech: zmud can do time math
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: oh, well then, that makes it quite easy
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: can't you just script it in Lua and use os.time() to get the actual time?
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: i don't know lua
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: can you put lua in ZMud?
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kazuma Tech: well cmud would do that easy, but i cant remember if zmud does lua
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: no only msscript and zscript
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: lua is in cmud.  sorry.
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kazuma Tech: but you can do it in zmud, i had a script that I wrote to tell me the length of my campaigns
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I thought I was looking at the forums for zmud... the search apparently switched to the other forums.
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kazuma Tech: just involves a little bit of math is all
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: like capturing start time end time subtracting start to end converting to to minutes then converting to seconds?
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: can you do modulus arithmetic?
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: just trigger on a line in the speech and record the %time() into a variable.  Then, when you get the cp complete message, record the %time() and subtract the start time from the complete time
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: nods
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kazuma Tech: its been a very long time since ive used zmud
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: i think i have an idea
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: i'll just have to play with it
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: thats what she said
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: know what the %secs function does?
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: noticed dolt's timer script uses that
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: not a function, it's a variable.  It tracks the seconds since midnight
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: so basically same as %time(s)
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: nope, %time(s) returns the seconds part of the current time
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valyre Tech: anyone know why my spellup plugin isnt working? just morted?
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: define "isn't working"
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ologn Tech: try 'spellup refresh
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valyre Tech: i stpe spellup all..noothing happens..wont auto recast
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ologn Tech: it'll refresh all the client side information
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ologn Tech: spellup refresh, then spellup all ect.
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: %secsis the number of milliseconds since midnight
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valyre Tech: hmmm not working still
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valyre Tech: i tried spellup all, nothing
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valyre Tech: stupid my just cast my last spell on myself manually tho so i wont be able to check again for a sec
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valyre Tech: nope, one faded didnt recast
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: I'm trying to create a client-side script to enhance the spellup command
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: for what client?
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: basically to auto-recast those spells that failed due to lack of 100% learned
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: mush
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: here is already one
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Nick Gammon (the mush creator) made one
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: oh yea? is it on the aard site?
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Ill look up the link
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valyre Tech: mine still isnt working..not due to fail. its just not working
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valyre Tech: should i just redo the plugin or something?
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monsieur Dorleac Tech: nods, the spellup plugin for mush is really good, it listed on aard, though you should look at gammons site, you need to do some other things to get it to work
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: ok will do
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=8780
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valyre Tech: zomg sorry guys...thanks for the help didnt realize i had it on pause.
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: dark: thx
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Not a problem
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monsieur Dorleac Tech: the orange (Paused)  didnt give it away? :P
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: can do #MSS {MinDiff = DateDiff(~"n~", ~"@time1~", ~"@time2~")}
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: just grab time before and after campaign
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: mins_taken would = %mss(MinDiff)
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: hey dk
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: I totally got it to work with no hassle, f**king awesome
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: this is like 100x better than what I was designing
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: that's like the #1 rule of programming these days
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: 99% of the time someone's already done it better faster and harder than you lol
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: nobody does *it* better faster or harder than me :-p
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: There's a separate channel for that Dfury
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: it's called private tells lol
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: mistell :-p
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kazuma smiles happily.
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: or rather lets just call it that
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kazuma Tech: get it working ruiner
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: zmud 7 script, uses PerlScript, 2 aliases, starttime&endtime... will make a variable with seconds since epoch for both aliases... http://ozzy.pastebin.com/f29dc4647
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: i got it working
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: i just stole the code from dolt's q timer script
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: bad part about secs is if the campaign crosses over midnight.. and secs... if you disconnect
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: erm ctime
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: yeah i can see that being an issue
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: mine is a seconds since 00:00:00 UTC, January 1, 1970
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: gives a # like 1242796340
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: can use use a #MATH diff @endtime-@starttime
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: if you dont have perlscript installed in windows, im sure vbscript or jscript have a time() function as well
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: and in perl could also make the zmud vars easy... ($sec,$min,$hour,$mday,$mon,$year,$wday,$yday,$isdst) = localtime($diff_from_previous_aliases);
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: then do a $sess->MakeVar for each of those to make the zmud vars
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: hehe
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: im so glad i figured out Perl in zmud... i was getting jealous of all this Lua talk :P
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: wish there were a Lua like ActivePerl
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that way i could use the windows scripting host
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: #show %mss( "DateDiff(~"s~", ~"01/01/1970 00:00:00~", now())", "vbscript")   <--- time() function
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: #show %mss( "time()", "PerlScript")  <-- easier was for PerlScript(must be installed in windows, if not use VBScript
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: does Lua have a comparible time() function... or do you gotta finangle it like in VBScript?
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: http://www.lua.org/pil/22.1.html perhaps?
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that a no? i a i dunno? :P
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: or
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: os.time
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: #show %mss( "Math.round(new Date().getTime()/1000.0)", "JScript")
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nice.. 3 ways todo time() in ancient old zmud :P
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: print (os.time{})
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: what is the longest a campaign last now? never paid attention :P
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: like a week?
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: something like that... didnt know if there was a hard coded max
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: if 7 days and no more... 604800 seconds would be cool
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: anyone happen to have the campaign expire message?
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: might as well code for it... someone will point it out eventually :P
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kazuma Tech: yeah but you modified it on my end somehow
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Current campiagn runing for: 15m40s
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: and lasts over midnight or reconnect/quit :)
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i still need an expired mud message
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: hold on, I may have one.
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: dont think ive ever seen it :P
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: screwed up a few times and seen all the quest ones :P
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Bah, thought I had a message saved in my client notes.  No idea on the timeout.
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: aint on the wiki yet either
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: hrm... You have 6 days, 23 hours and 36 minutes to find out :P
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ohh... i bet it also shows the you may take or you will have to level though
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: in case anyone needs... epoch time() function for zmud... #VAR time {%mss( "Math.round(new Date().getTime()/1000.0)", "jscript")}
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: in jscript, so comes with windows/zmud
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: #show @time or timestamp=@time to use
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: here is another i played with while getting the time function going... http://ozzy.pastebin.com/f77a571be   use "tillxmas <channel>"
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Only 219 days left until Christmas!!!
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nice howto echo(#SHOW) or send commands in zmud with JScript as well
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xeleth Tech: I wonder if there's a setting for the mushclient to minimize to the system tray instead of the task bar.
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xeleth Tech: hah! there is!
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneux Tech: hrm does anyone here know how to set it on Microsoft word how many characters are on each line because I wrote down something in word and now i want to copy and paste it to a note but since it is only 79 characters per line im having trouble doing so...
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothing Noplacebo Tech: it used to say it in the bar at the bottom of the screen when you typed. didn't say what it was, just had a number which changes as you move the cursur
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothing Noplacebo Tech: don't use windows anymore though sorry.
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneux Tech: hrm okay
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: word sucks as a text editor, it's more of a page designer...paste it into the note formatter on aard's website :-)
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: word doesn't use hard returns unless you hit enter, so even if it shows on a separate line in word, it'd still paste as a single line
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mad Hermit Starky Tech: noplacebo
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneux Tech: oooo thanks ill go check out that no editor
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mad Hermit Starky Tech: go to view and change it to print layout
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mad Hermit Starky Tech: err sneux sorry
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mad Hermit Starky Tech: that show make it reappear
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneux Tech: its okay hehe i think the note editor worked
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneux Tech: oooo it worked thanks guys
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blitzed BladeofLight Tech: how do you clear screen on a capture window on zmud?
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: harro tech folk, have some questions if anyone is interested
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: zmud 7.21 coding questions
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newbie Tech: suggestions on how I can get a 6 gig file onto a FAT32 memory stick?  I think it has a 2 gig limit, right?  
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avun Tech: 4GB.  You'll have to split it or compress it.  (most likely just split it).  7zip, winrar, hjsplit etc can all split it (assuming windows)
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newbie Tech: yeah, okay... I'm just gonna format it NTFS, should fix it.
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fruckus Tech: Anyone else using Linux? If so ... what mud client do you use?
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mushclient
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: in wine
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: tinyfugue is often used with the linux types
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fruckus Tech: ahh ... okay
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: Hmm, I haven't tried MUSH under Wine as of yet.
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: TinyFugue!
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mushclient is superior in every way
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fruckus Tech: Yah ... I was wondering if it would work in Linux
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newbie Tech: anyone using Pueblo?    I love it.  simple, easy.
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: Then again, I'm currently using My First Linux.
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: Fischer Price [tm]
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fruckus Tech: just put Gentoo on
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oladon, plz to email me contest submissions
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: using M$ XP, is there any way to add a 'no to all' option to the dialog box that pops up when copy n pasting ?
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: I know if you paste a folder on top of a folder, you can select "no to all"; not sure about just a set of files, though.
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: nods, was thinking the sam. I'll just use ftp prog next time
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avun Tech: If you hold the SHIFT key when clicking "no". it means no to all.
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Habasi jumps high screaming, "WOOHOO!"  You wonder what Avun did.
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon goes ooOOooOOoo at Avun.
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newbie Tech: really?  that's nice to know.
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: I've wondered that before. :P
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: I'll see if it does next time, and thanks for that tidbit
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newbie Tech: kind of crazy that they have "yes to all" but not "no to all" buttons...
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: zomgz! a noobie?!?!
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Newbie: surely you want to replace at least ONE of the files... this one? Or or or how about this one, it's a nice file!
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Besides, you need the exercise of clicking "no" on all of them.
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newbie Tech: my favorite is when it can't read the file name, so you're not able to delete it... :P  
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: well I'm copying things that I may or may not have copied before so I don't want to overwrite anything if its already there
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: Don't name your files the same as system commands? :P
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: don't click 'n' ftw!
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: ,
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newbie Tech: my click muscles are already quite big from playing Diablo 2...
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: any zmud buffs around? have a syntax question
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: any zmud gurus out there
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: anyone know if there is anyway to double parse something? im triggering 4 things and %additem them into a variable i am putting color codes and parsing thing with ~ problem is once they make it through the first parse and the variable gets announced it is unparsed and it tries to post the color code as a variable
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Please say that in English. :P
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: More than likely, you can use %quote, which will quote all special characters.
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: whats the syntax on that good sir
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: %quote. :P
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: let me elaborate
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: on cp's there are 3 optional things that will be triggered
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You can do %quote("This ~is~ a test.")
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: right, but will that work inside an %additem?
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I don't see why not.
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Do %additem(@blah, %quote("blah %@~|"))
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: so #var cprew %additem(" ~@w%1 ~@Yqp ~@b",@cprew)
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: %quote would go where?
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: sorry was typing as you said that
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: does variable have to go first in the additem or does the order not matter?
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Oh that's right. %additem is different. You'd do #VAR cprew %additem(%quote(@w%1 @Yqp @b"),@cprew)
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Don't forget the opening quotation.
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: so with quote it won't parse the first time just the second time
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: With quote, it parses out any special characters when added to the variable. It should return whatever you want it to return (color coded)
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: so no need for ~
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: k, i'll give it a spin
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It's been a while since I've done something like that, but it should work.
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: i'll keep you updated
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Although there may be a better way to go about doing it.
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: no dice charn
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You're trying to do colorcodes for it, right? Why are you making it a list, if I may ask?
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: because trains/triv/pracs don't happen everytime
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: actually it put the info in the variable correct
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: its just not outputting right for some reason
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: But sending it to a channel didn't work?
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: nods
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: What are you using to make it display to a channel?
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Actually, try this: #EXEC {echo %item(@cprew, 1)} and see if that colorcodes it.
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: gt ~@Ycampaign: ~@w@cpmobs targets ~@b| ~@wtime: @cpmm:@cpss~@b | @cprew
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: So it's parsing it now?
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: and i get
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: campaign: 15 targets | time: 21:44 |  ~ ~ ~w'
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Actually, you know what? Screw the %quote bit. Do this, see if it works. #VAR cprew %additem("This is a test.",prew) --- then do #EXEC {tech %item(prew, %numitems(prew)}
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Actually, you know what? Screw the %quote bit. Do this, see if it works. #VAR cprew %additem("This is a test.",prew) --- then do #EXEC {tech %item(@cprew, %numitems(prew)}
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: One last time for that.
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: #VAR cprew %additem("@YThis @wis @Ra @Gtest.",@cprew) --- then do #EXEC {tech %item(@cprew, %numitems(@cprew)}
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: .
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Hmmm.
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Let me fire up zMUD real fast. :P
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: lol
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Hmmm... Try #VAR cprew %additem(%string("This is a test."),prew), then do #EXEC {echo %item(prew,%numitems(prew))
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Damn it all.
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Hmmm... Try #VAR cprew %additem(%string("@YThis @wis @Ra @Gtest."),prew), then do #EXEC {echo %item(@cprew,%numitems(@cprew))
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I give up.
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I can't remember to double everything anymore!
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: #VAR cprew %additem(%string("@YThis @wis @Ra @Gtest."),@cprew), then do #EXEC {echo %item(@cprew,%numitems(@cprew))
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: This is why I have a script to convert what I type.
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus growls.
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: YOu use zmud though can't you escape it with ~?
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: He's tried, and that doesn't quite work.
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It's all in the way he's doing it, though.
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: its not outputting properly from the variable from some reason
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Did you try what I suggested last, Ruiner?
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: sec was slaying dragons
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Change that echo to tech, by the way. I want to see it.
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: just outputted {tech
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Because I'm a dumbass, Ruiner.
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Do #EXEC {tech %item(@cprew, %numitems(@cprew))}
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I forgot to add the closing }.
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: This is a test.,
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Sweet, so it worked. :P
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: yeah now how do i incorporate that :P
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It might even work without the #EXEC, too. Try tech %item(@cprew, %numitems(@cprew))
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: See if it works. Might save you some steps.
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: %item(prew, %numitems(prew))
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Heh. Apparently, it just sent it directly. *blink*
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: To incorporate it, though, just change the %additem("blah blah blah", @cprew) to %additem(%string("blah blah blah"),@cprew)
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Then, anywhere you output it, just put #EXEC { and close the output string with }.
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: so im going to have to rethink my whole thing
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Not really.
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: so i can lead off with the exec
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It's just a couple additions to what you already have.
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: can you do exec in the middle of a line tho? or can #exec gt hi nothing special @cprew work?
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: #exec {gt hi nothing special @cprew} will work.
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: unf unf unf put it in my butt    .,
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You can even do #EXEC {@reportchannel @cprew whatever blah blah blah} too.
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: hmm
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: #EXEC {tech random crap before the item %item(prew, %numitems(prew))}
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: random crap before the item This is a test.,
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: ok
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: heh ok i'll try to work this in
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: is cmud more straightforward?
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It generally is, yeah.
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: This is a test.
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Yeah. I just did #var testvar "@YThis @gis @Ra @Mtest.", and did tech @testvar, and it worked with no problems.
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: k will take me a sec to do this all
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: i'll let you know
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: just doing the first one
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: of the other variables to see if it works
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: This spellup plugin rocks my bollocks off
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: haha
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: i think it worked
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: i forgot to edit the other part because im retarded
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: you there charn?
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: #EXEC {gt ~@Ycampaign: ~@w@cpmobs targets ~@b| ~@wtime: @cpmm:@cpss~@b | %item(@cprew, %numitems(@cprew))}
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: returned
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: targets w| : 07:48w |  27 qp
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: How do i get the second part to actually activate? I got the pouch and gave banker diamonds but the goal never activated
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: wow mis
T1/r6/2009-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Darkknowing runs away in utter terror!
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: "MSS
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: This is a test.,
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: pass!
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Is there a way to recall a variable in a macro for MUSH?
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: GetVariable
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: I wasn't sure if it would read a macro as script or as 'sent to world' though
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: send even
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: or rather reduces total number of bytes required to compose a response, compression actually -increases- cpu load.
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witblitz Tech: how many clever people is on today?
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 3
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witblitz Tech: i have a mush script question
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witblitz Tech: lol
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witblitz Tech: how do i say if %b is between 90 and 100% then cast 38?
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witblitz Tech: but only once
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witblitz Tech: none that clever huh :)
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the "only once" part would depend on what is "calling" the event...best to just call it once, then you don't need to care about the only once...
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it's a constant event, then you'd set a variable to show that it has been done...and clear that variable when you want it to cast the once again
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: best to set your dispel to a macro and bot less
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witblitz Tech: so say at a precise persentage
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witblitz Tech: i dont bot
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: besides a human is much smarter than a trigger
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: taht's debatable
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witblitz Tech: so to set an dispel magic at a sertain point of mob exp is botting?
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witblitz Tech: mob hp sorry
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no need to really look at the MOB % though...just have your combat stuff start with dispel
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: #if ((%1>x) and (%1<y) and @doonce=0)) (c 38;doonce=1) reset doonce at end of battle
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: alias nuke bs %1 ; c 68 ; c other attacks a few times
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Habasi.
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: #tr (@prompt) (doonce=0)
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: regardless of how you paint it, thats botting
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's MUSH, so the syntax is different, but that's the logic
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: triggering on prompt wouldn't be end of battle ;-)
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: imho
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: sorry, missed the part about mush but yeah thats the logic
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatale Elliden Tech: anyone can recommend a good client for mac?
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: sure b/c bprompt would be active during
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah, having a standard set of starting attacks isn't botting, as long as you're initiating the combat
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witblitz Tech: is that it? #if ((%1>x) and (%1<y) and oonce=0)) (c 38;doonce=1) reset doonce at end of battle... in trigger and it will work?
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: elliden, MUSH under parallels/wine/fusion, or tinyfugue :-)
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: thats the thing, he said triggered and I told him to make a macro. thats the threshold
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: and with a macro you don't have to worry about scripting anything
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he didn't say trigger until just now ;-)
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: well any logic
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thurgood Tech: Assuming Elliden has an Intel mac that is. MUSH doesn't work with PPC.
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatale Elliden Tech: Yeah I do
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUSH works fine with PPC, just in a different emulator than the 3 I mentioned
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thurgood Tech: Really, have a name? I've never found one.
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatale Elliden Tech: if i use parallels/wine/fusion i might as well use zmud :P
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: oh, my mistake. I read too much into it. but #if xAb is logic which means the client is still doing it, trigger or no
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: virtualPC is fine
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: logis is perfectly fine, habasi
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: x<A>y
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: auto-rearm on disarm trigger is logic, and is trigger, and I've absolutely got one set up
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witblitz Tech: ok so lets just get this straight.. i start the battles on my own... quaff heals on my own... quaff mana pots on my own. just wanted to get something to help cast 38 in battle at say 90% of mob hp... and that is considdered botting?
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: that depends on context
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I also have an auto-quaff on bleeding trigger
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thurgood Tech: Hmm, guess they should update the FAQ on Aardwolf.com: "Mushclient works on the Mac (Intel version only) using 'Boot Camp' and 'Parallels'. Mushclient does not work on non-intel versions of the Mac."
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're emergency measures, and I'm fully there in all fights
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Habasi shrugs helplessly.
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: thurgood, not really...MUSH doesn't work in MacOS period...it works in things which are pretending to not be MacOS...whether Intel or not is irrelevant
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witblitz Tech: i dont want to break the rules.. just stating my facts
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just like MUSH doesn't run in linux...but wine will allowthat to happen
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thurgood Tech: Ok, fair enough, but they could mention that possibility for the less computer savvy among us. :P
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you have a windows emulator (or enough windows calls being emulated), MUSH will run on anything
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, they can't give you 100% of every possible option
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's at least 30 different wine programs out there for the Mac
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thurgood Tech: Well, they don't have to give every option, but a sentence like "Mushclient does not work on non-intel versions of the Mac." is misleading.
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witblitz Tech: last question is there anywhere where i can read up on how to make a trigger like that... to cast 38 at 90% of mob hp.... if it is leagle that is
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not really
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thurgood Tech: OK, you're right. Gratz, you've won the intrawebs.
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you had a non-Intel Mac (ancient), you'll already know the options for windows emulation
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: abe is always right, the sooner you learn that the better
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Habasi throws back her head and cackles with insane glee!
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: softPC, virtualPC were extremely well-known when they were the only options for running windows programs on the Mac
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thurgood Tech: I have a Powerbook G4, and I'm not entirely familiar with the options for windows emulation, as I've never had a great need to run windows programs on it.
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when Apple went Intel, the emulation didn't have to do as much, and the options were greatly expanded
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then don't run MUSH
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thurgood Tech: Man, defensive much?
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your options to run MUSH are to run Windows, or to run a Windows emulator. OS doesn't matter
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what would I need to be defensive of?
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: learn to torrent, liif
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, mis
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thurgood Tech: Unable to fathom that the FAQ is possibly misleading for the uninitiated. I belong to that group, and believe me, it can be misleading.
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not misleading, it's as valid as the info really allows...if you wish to be unhappy, then you can ignore its advice
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thurgood Tech: So you wouldn't see any sense in saying 'MUSHclient does not run natively on PPC macs, but may be used with a windows emulator such as x...' instead of just saying it's not possible?
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: kind of like the vista system requirements say you need a certain level of hardware to run it...you can install it on less, but you won't be happy
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (if you'd ever be happy on vista ;-)
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: does anyone know of a service that will allow me to keep certain files synced on multiple pcs? like my zmud settings, so whatever i change on my dekstop will sync with my laptop?
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: anyone here?
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: sure
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: I just installed xp on my laptop
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: but many things don't work..will installing servic pack 2 or 3 fix them?
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: what doesn't work?
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: device manager has quite along list with yellow ! things
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: yea, the drivers will update with the new service packs
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: how new of a laptop is it?
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: about year (installed xp with old disk only service pack1 there) so most likely the drivers are old and new service pack will fix it?
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: alot of newer laptops that come with windows vista preinstalled will reject xp drivers unless you force install them
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: that's what I'm thinking
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: in that case getting sp1 or 2 will prolly fis that
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: force install?
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: it had vist on it (before the harddisk died)
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: vista..
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: well try getting sp1 or 2 first if that doesnt work, id recomend contacting the manufacturer about getting xp drivers for your laptop.
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: downloading sp 2 and 3 right now
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: I hope it will fix drivers...no network and sound right now:(
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: microsoft programmers are incompetent -- they (often) assume user configurations are "standard" and "unchanged" (and did not run thirdparty tweaks) -- installing service packs often breaks some user systems  [resulting crashes and freezes] -- backup the system before installing service packs
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: nothing to backup:D just got a new hard drive:D
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: backup the vanilla system to be safe
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: mmm, vanilla
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: eh?
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: backup your system anyway is what he said 
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: a new system is yet "unmolested" by service packs
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: backup the 'virginity'
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: lol ok
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: I hope it will fix drivers:S
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: hrm installin sp 2 didnt help:S
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: try 3
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: installing
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: what are you trying to do again ?
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: if that doesn't work, right down all of your parts and update the drivers manually from their websites
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: write down, rather
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: some devices don't work so I'm updateing windows
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: and yo have the correct drivers for them ?
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: no idea...guessing the network and sound should work even with standard xp sp1
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: or I'm wrong?
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: its always a better option to download drivers from the own websites
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: get the serials etc. off the cards and google for drivers. unless they're part of the mobo ?
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: ok will check what sp3 does..and then start singel downloading them
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: 11 things in the list:S
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: getting the correct drivers is always a better first option than DLing a bunch of stuff you may or may not want/need
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: 2x base system device? this bad??
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: lol... thats strange..
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: I have alot of things there
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: actually, get them from manu's website not google. if they all appear to be the same go down the list and install until 1 works. usually similar drivers will require removing the first so there won't be any overlap
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: ethernet controller,network controller,video controller, PCI device and so on
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: sirian in my experience, i usually get drivers from the laptop makers website
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: need to get network fixed first then I can do else on laptop
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: and most offer download options for vista/xp
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: sp3 almost done
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: write down your laptop model, go to the laptop makers website and download the network driver.  install on laptop, then do everything from the laptop
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: as you wanted
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: will make sure what network card I have after instal
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: thats easy sirian,  get your laptop model -> google -> search for <your laptop model> + specifications
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: thx:)
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: unless you mod your laptop, which i doubt
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LadyLegend Tech: hello
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: lets cross the fingers and hope to hear the sound of windows after restart:D
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: hrm:(
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LadyLegend Tech: heya there how goes 
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: ok my network adapters are ok but ethernet and network controller have yellow ! what do I need to install?
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LadyLegend Tech: o thott u were tech 
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: anyone here??
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LadyLegend Tech: i dont think so 
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: could use help
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: sup
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: how I makes sure what kind of network drivers I need?
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: download them from your NIC card manufacturer's website.
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: NIC?
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: Network Interface Card?
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: where can I check what NIC I have?
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: http://www.halfdone.com/unknowndevices
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: assuming it's windows
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: If you don't know who the manufacturer is, you'll need to open up your computer and look at the label
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: can't use it
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: omg...
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: then what kutgar said
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: can
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: if that's a problem, do you have any software that came with your comp?
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: can't make it sure from somewhere in windows?
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: not really :/
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: it's usually the drivers themselves that perform the recognition that lets you even see who the manufacturer is
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: so it's kind of a catch-22
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: got harddisk swaped and installed xp sp1 and some stuff dont work updated sp2 and sp3 still same
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: I would say grab a flashlight and open 'er up
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: do you plug your cable in directly to the mobo or an addon card
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: goes into the side of my cpu
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: always makes me chuckle when people chuck out their system disks
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: is the computer on warranty or a secondhand computer
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: are you using a laptop or a twoer
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: laptop
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: ah. then it should be easier
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: go to your laptop manufacs' site
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rykor Tech: dell by chance?
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: they're required to provide basic system drivers
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: so if it says dell on the side, for instance, go to dell.com. easy
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: no dell
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they're not required to do anything, kugtar
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: its ordi
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: common sense would dictate otherwise
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: they would very soon go out of business if they did not
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: dell is required to provide dreivers and information if they want repeat customers
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rykor Tech: Dell has a handly CD that scans thier systems and will tell you exactly what you have and allow you to load the drivers right from the disk... very handy
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: as it happens, they typically provide them both on cd with the unit, and online on their website
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: Tigernuts you run with that, the whole idea of not providing drivers for a product you produce, and see how long your company lasts
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: and then tell me it's not 'required'
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: it's 'de facto' required
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: figured out who made the laptop yet?
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: I definitely didn't think that'd be the hard part
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: ordi....but no idea of the model and they don't have info about old laps at webpage so its crap
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: microsoft does not provide much support to old systems -- an opportunity for competitors  (hahahahah)
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ordi is the make?
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: never heard of it
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: is that a french manufacturer Sirian?
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: probably some crappy rebadged generic one
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: estonian but I guess they only put it together from parts
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: yea rebranded probably
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: hmm
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: did you buy the laptop off the back of a truck
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: any other model numbers or things on stickers on the bottom?
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: checkong
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: if you have a tiny screwdriver, it might come down to removing some panels and peeking around
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: don't do that
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: sounds like their site isn't so good and I don't speak Estonian
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: one ungrounded touch and that's game over
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: just out of curiousity, Sirian
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: how are we communicating if your NIC drivers are bad
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: how was the harddrive replaced -- somebody went inside the laptop
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: ok will try to open it up
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rykor peers intently at Evil Bitch Sirian.
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: be sure to disconnect the juice before opening the laptop
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: and take out the battery
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the big battery, not the cmos battery
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: can't get it open with my tools:(
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: http://www.ordi.ee/EPood/Product.aspx?MC=ARVUTID&IC=9920&Page=2&ItemID=9920-1370
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: can you tell me the name of NIC of this cpu
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: I don't speak Estonian
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: it only says 10/100/1000 LAN
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: not very specific
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: 0/100/1000 LAN
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: this don't help?
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: does the 0 involve two cups and a string?
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: no that's just a specification, not a manufacturer
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: hrm:(
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: Sirian is there a support link?
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: no its just selling page and my cpu is 1 year old and its not even up there
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: call them
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: they must have contact info somewhere, give them a ring
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: oh got something:S but I have no way to make sure what model I have:S
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: guess
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: try any
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: contact in what language -- pidgin english or pidgin estonian
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: worst that can happen = it fails
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: if you have time, download them all
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: ok
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: at the very, very worst it might bluescreen your comp but then you just startup in safe mode and uninstall that version
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: got the most popular ones will test them
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: if I find right one I can take other drivers from there do yes?
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: definitely
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: I hope they have something for my model...
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: ok bit afk brb
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: common sense, reason and login win out again
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: under xp they have pci an pci-e what do I need??
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: when booting up, the computer screen on some computer often displays what hardware is installed for a brief second
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: that's a bit tougher... but I'm guessing since they're estonian, PCI
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: ok
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: PCI-e is newer and 'fancier'
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: lol ok 
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: here goes first driver set
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: restart:)
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: good luck
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: could use some today yes:D
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the Device Manager under System Devices may display hints whether pci or pci-e is installed 
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: no internet connection and still yellow ethernet controller and network controller means these where wrong?
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: means neither are installed
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: but once the device manager is muddied with potluck installs, the information is likely no longer as pristine
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: tried using Everest to detect what hardware it is?
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: ok next drivers set
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: no internet connection on my cpu...trying to fix it first
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rykor Tech: on an off chance.. you are certain your patch cable is good?
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you have internet connection on this one
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: cabel is ok...using it on this cpu right now
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: just missing some fucking drivers:S
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: quite alot drivers sadly...12 yellow ! at device manager
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: oh well afk a bit swaping network drivers
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: remember you can't ask for help once it fails lolol
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: potluck installs worsened then situation
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: next set drivers:S
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: anyone know how to move the status bar to the top of the screen or get rid of the side scroll bar?
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: finaly
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: anyone here?
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: sure
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hmm. You could swear Seltsimees Dagnir has been here just a second ago. You wonder where he went ...
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: not really -- you were gone awhile
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: still have 1 more program to fix
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: yeah got 11 fixed from 12:P
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: but the lasts setup folder is wierd maybe I will give a like and someone will tell how I can install it?
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: http://www.ordi.ee/EPood/BrowseDocuments.aspx?DocID=71 <---click on LAN
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: I bet if I can get this installed it will work:P
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: anyone?
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i think ordi computers were actually re-branded msi's
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: just get the model number from the bottom and get the drivers from msi site
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneux Tech: weird I hit something around the screen and a bar popped up in my Zmud and its like a small blank rectangle that you can click but nothing happens any ideas?
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: YAY I'm free of the curse all fixed
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: status window ?
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: all program missing drivers fixed:P
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneux Tech: I thought I disabled that but maybe
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneux Tech: haha turned off my output window and couldnt figure out how to turn it back on
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xeleth Tech: anyone familiar with triggers in mushclient?
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xeleth Tech: I sure wish triggers were as easy as they were in mudmaster :P
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: What specifically do you need?>
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xeleth Tech: I'm wondering if you can tell me in two sentences or less, how I would make a trigger with a variable.  example: doors.  trigger: "The (doorname) is closed." -- "open (doorname)"
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: The * is closed. function op %1 might work
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: thats what I use
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xeleth Tech: nice.  thanks for the tip.
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: You might make the question easier by telling us which client you use too
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: where function is in the bow below the trigger.
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xeleth Tech: mushclient :P
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: He said much
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: MUSH*
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: ah - sorry, I missed that by not doing enough history
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: In MUSH, it the correct syntax to recall a variable caught in a trigger into an alias GetVariable("Variablename")? and to place it into a send function Send ("{message} " .. Variable .. "?
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: with closing ) of course
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: In mush is there a function to type to clear a list from variable? such as lastelllist
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: ("lasttelllist"."") doesnt work
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: lasttelllist = nil
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: [string "Alias: "]:2: '=' expected near '<eof>'
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: I'd have to see more of your script to know what to do
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: anyone have a clue what ''main' must return 'int'' means?
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: in C++
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: that main must return an int.
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: put "return 0" at the end.
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: i did
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: till won't compile
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: haha?
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: still*
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Its pretty pathetic to get stuck on 'Hello World' Isn't it?
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: are you using "void main()" instead of "int main()"?
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Egrene Tech: i suppose you can just 'return 0' instead of 'return'
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: #include <iostream>/n namespace std;/nvoid main/n{/n      cout << "Hello World!" << endl;   cout << /n      "Welcome to C++ Programming" << endl; }/n      'return 0;
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: meh, ignore newline betwenn the second cout <<
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avun Tech: change "void main" to "int main"
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: and put the return inside the brackets
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Better question...  why is "return 0;" outside of the braces?  {}
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: most compilers will just warn if you have "void main()" and change it to "int main()", assuming you are just being forgetful.
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: they are in teh braces now, but it says missing terminating character
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: there was a dangling single quote in what you copied...  is that in the file?
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: like this:        'return 0
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: erm... like this:        'return 0;
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Egrene Tech: lol
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: I was fiddling with it, when i tried to complie it said expected ' before return
T1/r6/2009-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Well, it may have expected it, but it shouldn't be there.
T1/r6/2009-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: hist 50
T1/r6/2009-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: hey dark
T1/r6/2009-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: how's that "I'm going to bed now" coming LOL
T1/r6/2009-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kugtar Tech: can we chat here dark, I don't like sending to all my friends but talking only to you.
T1/r6/2009-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sir Mandy Mandorallen cackles with glee as Kugtar blushes.  Guess his mind was on something more important than the right channel.
T1/r6/2009-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sir Mandy Mandorallen ducks.
T1/r6/2009-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Smart move! Sir Mandy Mandorallen tries to start some discussion about the weather, hoping no one noticed his last mischan.
T1/r6/2009-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rayvn Tech: is any person on here experinced in codeing might be able to help me out on something real fast...and before you ask no im not advertising im just looking for help
T1/r6/2009-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: What's the question?
T1/r6/2009-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avun Tech: Where is alias/trigger data stored in mushclient?
T1/r6/2009-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Hod do i recall a predefined variable in C++, if it helps i am trying to make a program output the lyric of 99 bottles of beer.
T1/r6/2009-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: how*
T1/r6/2009-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: By predefined, where/how do you mean that it is defined?
T1/r6/2009-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: such as #define pnumner 
T1/r6/2009-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: wouldn't you just want to create an LCV and use that in a decrementing loop as the output number?
T1/r6/2009-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: you just use pnumner as you would a constant or variable
T1/r6/2009-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: just learning to write in C++ here, you got to make it a little dumber.
T1/r6/2009-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: C++ will just replace every instance of pnumner with whatever you defined it as when you compile it, if that helps
T1/r6/2009-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Yes that helps
T1/r6/2009-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: what does #pragma do then?
T1/r6/2009-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Not sure
T1/r6/2009-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: It's not really my language :/
T1/r6/2009-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: It will replace it even if i >> cout "Beer pnumber-1 wall"?
T1/r6/2009-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: No
T1/r6/2009-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: ho would i make it replace it in an output message is actually what i needed to know then.
T1/r6/2009-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I think you would have to concatenate the pnumner
T1/r6/2009-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Ahh, oh crap i got to get to school.
T1/r6/2009-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: thanks for the help, later.
T1/r6/2009-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: is there anyway to transfer aliases/etc from mush to zmud?
T1/r6/2009-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: no
T1/r6/2009-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: hey guys, what are the popular clients for mac?
T1/r6/2009-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maloroc Tech: I'm just using the mushclient in fusion here
T1/r6/2009-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I'm trying to switch over to the aard mushclient on my new laptop... how do I get rid of the bigmap plugin? It seems to come back each time I try to remove it... (I'm using vista)
T1/r6/2009-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phiaess Tech: Disable the plugin?
T1/r6/2009-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: ah, instead of clicking "remove"?
T1/r6/2009-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phiaess Tech: Yeah, try that.
T1/r6/2009-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: ah, didn't come back this time! Also, is there any way to make the space in the command area stay at the size you want rather than resizing each time?
T1/r6/2009-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phiaess Tech: Probably, I don't know what it is though, sorry.
T1/r6/2009-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: oh well, thanks anyway
T1/r6/2009-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: also, know how I can emulate a keypad's functions on a laptop without an built-in one?
T1/r6/2009-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: turn numlock on
T1/r6/2009-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: no numlock, this one has no keypad built in...
T1/r6/2009-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: so I was wondering if there's any work around...
T1/r6/2009-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: there'll be a numlock function key, then it turns iop,jkl,m,. into the keypad
T1/r6/2009-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: none on this one... I called Dell and they said that this model does not have one. Cheapskates.
T1/r6/2009-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: so... no ideas for a workaround? I'm using macros to replace some of them, but they're kind of all over the place
T1/r6/2009-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: i would like to highlight certain dates on an excel graph.  right now i have number of returned letters per day. I would like to highlight the days where we sent out a phone call. how do i do that?
T1/r6/2009-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: ok the easiest stuff to do - and i cant get it to work in vista, time to go back to xp
T1/r6/2009-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: this is dumb
T1/r6/2009-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: cannot create bootable usb
T1/r6/2009-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: is the USB drive accessible if Vista is not loaded
T1/r6/2009-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Im MUSH how would i access a variable caught by a trigger into an alias? I have GetVariable(variablename) but how do i send that into a message, such as hello @variable how are you?
T1/r6/2009-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Send('say hello ' .. GetVariable(var) .. ' how are you?')
T1/r6/2009-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: thanks
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Invest-In Nikkei Tech: anyone's using IE8? is it much faster than IE7?
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boden Tech: yeah, but if your looking for speed, DL Opera. fastest out of the top 3.
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Invest-In Nikkei Tech: hmm isnt chrome faster?
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boden Tech: really depends what you do on the net the most.
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Invest-In Nikkei Tech: just normal surfing
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Invest-In Nikkei Tech: running with a low spec comp
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boden Tech: chrome is also good.
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boden Tech: what OS?
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Invest-In Nikkei Tech: win xp
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boden Tech: dont forget to set your visual affects to "adjust for best performance" makes a big difference on low-end computers.
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Invest-In Nikkei Tech: that setting's available on which browser?
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Invest-In Nikkei Tech: or in win xp?
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boden Tech: no its for the OS itself. You can find it in Advanced, for your system settings. in control panel.
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Invest-In Nikkei Tech: haha yep d OS' working alot faster now
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boden Tech: nice, that uses a lot of extra ram, that u shouldnt sacrifice.
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sumalt Tech: lost my blank lines, what's the command to get them back?
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: compact
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sumalt Tech: no dice, mayhaps a client side setting in mush
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sumalt Tech: got it, thnx
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: here's a toughie for you - anyone know where i can download SP6 for Windows NT4 Server that isn't from Microsoft?
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: piratebay
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: piratebay never have anything older than a year or so
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: http://www.softwarepatch.com/windows/nt4sp6.html
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: what are the chances firefox will finish a DL if I close it in the middle ?
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: 0? :P
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Get a download manager instead.
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humpton Tech: i'd go with extra slim.  i think it will just have it as not done and want to start again next time
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: was bein absent minded, just re dl it...
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: and I don't dl enough junk to need a manager
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: couple of questions for you aall
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: a free outlook .pst recovery tool - any suggestions?
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: secondly, a free cd burner program compatible with NT4
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have you tried the command line pst recovery commands included with outlook?
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nope, let me look
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if you do a search of M$'s site for .pst recovery, you get bugger all - what does that tell you?
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: get a mac
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA010563001033.aspx is part of MS's site :-)
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: yes, abe, notice how nowhere on that page do they tell you where this repair tool is
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes they do...expand the "To repair the PST file"
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: heh, does nothing, damn people's pc's
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: let me look it up on my office one
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: drive:\Program Files\Common Files\System\Mapi\LocaleID\scanpst.exe
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: where LocaleID is the locale identifier (LCID) for your installation of Microsoft Office. For example, the LCID for English (United States) is 1033
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: while you're at it, know any free cd burners for NT4?
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not offhand, I'd check downloads.com for that...does alcohol not work in NT?
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or imgburn
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: can alcahol compile data cd's/
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: yes
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: well, lucked out, alcahol isn't free
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humpton Tech: do you need it for longer than the trial?
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: just get CDBurnerXP
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: its free
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: cdburnerxp doesn't work on nt4
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: the built in windows one doesn't work for you?
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: there isn't a built in windows one for nt4
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: get Express Burn Burning Software 4.12
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: imgburn is free, works even back to win95 :-)
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and forms the basis for lots of more advanced howtos on the Net (like burning video DVDs from a windows movie maker project)
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: deepburner too
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: imgburn compile data cd's?
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: looks like it support nt4, lets just hope it doesn't require some crazy service pack to run
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heinrich Tech: anyone up for entertaining a drupal question
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Air-Borne Anadorr Tech: can open-case desktop suffer from static electricity from objects nearby ?
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Yes.
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: make sure you keep the case grounded
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Static electricty can travel. :P
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: mmm it really should be called moving electricity then
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Air-Borne Anadorr Tech: any ways to ground a case ? :)
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: plug it in, just dont turn power on
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: it should ground through the power supply and earth wire
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Air-Borne Anadorr Tech: we don't have earth wires in houses(( 
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: um
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Air-Borne Anadorr Tech: only idea i gor is to wire case to central heating radiator
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Air-Borne Anadorr Tech: got*
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: your house doesnt have earth wiring?
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Air-Borne Anadorr Tech: nope :(
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Air-Borne Anadorr Tech: 90% of houses in this country don't have earth wiring
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: which country is that?
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Air-Borne Anadorr Tech: Ukraine
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dfury perks up, something must have grabbed his attention.
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: bad country to be a triton then
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: well, then i guess any large metallic object at earth potential then
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: who's ukrainian here?
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: radiator might work in a pinch
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Air-Borne Anadorr Tech: just read about it. I could accidentally kill someone in other flat if wire case to radiator :(
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: er
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: only if they are holding on to it while standing in a tub of water or somethign stupid like that
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: teh radiator will still be the path of lowest ressistance
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: the radiator should be at ground potential anyway, on account of all the pipes and whatnot
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: unless teh neighbors downstairs cut the pipe off
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: heh
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: wouldn't be radiating much then :D
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Air-Borne Anadorr Tech: "if something extraordinary happens, phase could come on a case. The case then gets an electric potential. If it's grounded on central heating radiator, and some person in nearby appartements is grounded and touches radiator the same moment - it will be probably killed"
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heinrich Tech: anyone ever heard of 'drupal?'
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maloroc Tech: yea
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maloroc Tech: pain in the ass 
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heinrich Tech: granted
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: i just reinstalled windows on my other computer and i'm having a total brain fart as to how to connect back to my wireless network. where do i go first?
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: control panel?
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avun Tech: does the adapter show up (start > run > ncpa.cpl)  Do you have the drivers for it?
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avun Tech: you'll either be using windows to configure it, or the driver software that came with it. 
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avun Tech: either way, assuming drivers are installed, there should be a way to scan for networks.  Or you can manually configure the connection by entering the SSID and any encryption settings. 
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: reinstall the lynksys drivers *bonk self
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: ok, new problem :( the linksys setup assistant is telling me it cannot detect an active network adapter. I followed the steps to enable the local area connection, but still nothing. am i enabling the wrong connection?
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avun Tech: yes
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: how do i do the right one?
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avun Tech: start > run > ncpa.cpl >  The local is your ethernet. You should see another there, Wireless area connection.  Do you see that one?
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: i do not
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avun Tech: do you know what kind of adapter you have?  like what model linksys wireless adapter?
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: just a sec, installing more things
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avun Tech: I'm not sure the setup assistant is what you want yet.  There should be something else you can install first.  If the adapter doesn't show up in network control panel, it's because windows can't see it because the driver isn't installed yet.
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avun Tech: ahh.  Once you get the right driver installed, it should show up there, then you're rolling.
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: ok thanks.  i'll keep plugging away
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Earth grounding is standard in Canada in the 110v household wiring -- even the non-hot wire is grounded somewhere to the ground -- the hot wire travels through the appliance to the nonhot wire which is also effectively grounded -- the 220v system for the heavy appliances is different though
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: has anyone used both Shure E2c and SE110?
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maloroc Tech: no, I've got a pair of the 210's though
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agharti Tech: any Mush masters on?
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agharti Tech: anyone on? :P
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: yea
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agharti Tech: is there a way to get the text to wrap, in main window, if it's not already doing so?
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: yea, it is
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: you gotta set your columns
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agharti Tech: where is that setting? pls
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: press ctrl + g
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: look for outpoot
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: output*
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: then at the bottom, wrap at x columns
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agharti Tech: ah i see it
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agharti Tech: ty Tirannon
T1/r6/2009-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: anyone know the command to keep winamp on top?
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Ummmm. I seem to have lost my shell, am stuck in an isolated account thanks to 'privacy center' which i cna't close, i had to go through their website and connect on a flash client to get here
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: O god please someone help
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaYne Tech: any cmud users here?
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: What's up?
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaYne Tech: i'm trying cmud, and can't seem to get (123456) -- the aard serial numbers to run.
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Put ~ in front of them.
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: So do ~(123456~)
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaYne Tech: says i dun have that item. it's in my inventory tho
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: What exactly are you trying to do?
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: use the say command instead to debug it
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: When i loggen in on a flash client it would parse the runto and i would see the directions it used, but now that im back on mush it won't do it. It simply freezes up until the run is complete, any ideas?
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maloroc Tech: that happened to me a couple of days ago - a reboot fixed it
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: it has been doing it since about a week after i got aard, i have rebooted MANYY times since then
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: mush not aard
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maloroc Tech: weird - no idea :(
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Is it possibel to script MUSH in C++ instead of Lua?
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: if it has a way to run a c++ script yeah i know tintin++ can run c++ 
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: How do i make a trigger judge current day?(MUSH)
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: like check if today == saturday
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avun Tech: realtime day I take it?
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avun Tech: all the scripting languages should have date/time functions.  what language are you using?
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaYne Tech: in cmud how to get it to recognise aarditems serial numbers for aliases? anyone please? :)
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faerlun Tech: in mushclient, how can i make sure that the bigmap is displayed in the miniwindow?
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faerlun Tech: now i have to type bigmap to see it in my mainscreen
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: how do you disable bigmap window on Mush
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: or keep it from popping unless u type the command
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: can anyone tell me how to disable bigmap on mush
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: cant find the plugin
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faerlun Tech: i want to enable it lol
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: lol
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: its so big it blocks my map and stat menu.. i rather have it available only when i type the command in
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faerlun Tech: you can adjust the windowsize
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: but it pops up everytime i "look"
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: whenever everytime i type it it pops back up at the original size
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faerlun Tech: have you tried asking on the gammo site?
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: no but i have searched for it
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: someone on the tech channel knows
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: i found out how to disable it btw
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: fearlun did u st ill want to enable bigmap?
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faerlun Tech: yeah
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: what client you using
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faerlun Tech: mushclient
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: kk
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: go to file > plugin
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: and expand purpose window
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: the bigmap plugin should be the second one
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: right click and disable it
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: i mean enable
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: name alone is self explanatory?
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: maybe for you it is.. not for everyone else
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: also you can drag BigMap way down to your bottom right
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: no it will repop upon typing the look command
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: eh? i didnt mean minimizing... its dragging.  mush should save the window coordinate
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: mine didnt save it
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: ahhh maybe you have autosave plugin disabled
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: everytime i typed look it repoped at the same size at the same place everytime
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: i think thats it gentoox
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: i got a new comp yesterday and for some reason vista wont allow autosave to function right
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: try dragging it down and manually save your aardwolf world
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faerlun Tech: hm, you have to resize it, drag it and then save to world file
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: I think i will just leave it disabled
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faerlun Tech: i got 2 screens here, so not realy a problem when typing look
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: i got 4
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: and 5 is a crowd
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: thats strange. coz im using a portable mush and played anywhere with vista/xp/wine
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: and never had that problem
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: i am new to vista but i think it has something to do with my username
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faerlun Tech: rech try to expand the main window vertically and then fit in the windows
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: also try resizing your world fonts
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: I have to opt in when i want to start a program as administrator
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: it helps in your window management
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faerlun Tech: best setting for me is game>configure>all configurations> then click on output, text offsett from edge =0, line spacing = 0, in font choose Comic Sans MS, 14 pts, and click override with default. this gives a nice main window so you can adjust the others a little bit better 
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faerlun Tech: now to find out a way to apply it also too chats and stats window
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: make sure the other windows are active
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: make sure the other window you are trying to configure is active
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faerlun Tech: found out. rightclick in window and adjust world config
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: what you did on the aardwolf window also works.  different windows(map,stats,chats,bigmaps) are different worlds
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Is anyone good with C++?
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Does anyone know how to set a variable in C++ as a number that decreases by one each time it is used?
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBane Tech: Test!!
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBane Tech: Ah-ha, the Tech channel :3
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBane Tech: Alright, so with Filt's permission I'm going to link to a MUD/MUSH/MUCK client survey, feel free to pass it to your friends: http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=cnpVc2xoQUp2T18xdjZwNzdiLTBJU3c6MA..
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unitae Tech: what is it?
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBane Tech: It's a survey, a form.
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unitae Tech: survey for this game?
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBane Tech: No, for the community at large.
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unitae Tech: oh ok
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBane Tech: The data, freely available, represents common statistics. Primarly to determine which clients are most used. See, clients have different standards. Coders sometimes have to account for this.
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBane Tech: This would make it easier for those coders to accurately plan for contengincies.
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: My gf is asking me a technical question. If a server she's trying to telnet to is down, will the IP address not resolve?
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: if it's down, this means it's offline
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the IP will resolve regardless of the state of the server
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: right, but DNS should still resolve, right?
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: which means you can't get to it, so what's the difference?
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tutal, the difference is that knowing the answer tells you where to troubleshoot
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Yep
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: she doesn't know that the server is down, that's one possibility...
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if she can get the IP, then she can investigate further, hence asking
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: oh, I thought that was a given
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's more likely that the reverse was a given (couldn't resolve), so she didn't know whether it was just that the one server was down, or whether it was a further issue
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: at any rate, DNS entries shouldn't be solely kept on that particular machine
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Looks like the ping is timing out since I tried pinging witht he IP, but the DNS isn't resolving to any IP.
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try doing a traceroute, see where it starts failing
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tlaloc feels like an idiot. "I had to look up how traceroute was shortened into a command, shows you the last time I used it. Seems to lose after speakeasy.net."
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: for 64.81.83.64
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: 16th hop.
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is that the IP of the computer you're trying to reach? It does resolve to dsl081-083-064.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net, so it's a computer on a DSL line with them
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Hmm, my fiancee is trying to get on a mud there on port 3333. 
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Pernworld mush, even, not mud
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: That's her problem... she needs to only play Aard.
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: she doesn't play Aard at all. Only me :) Though I agree, Oladon.
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Huzzah, it's up
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Thank you for the assistance, you have me and my fiancee's gratitude. NOw, to pay attention to my mudding so I don't die as I play
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Burcwor Tech: Is mccp v86 the latest version? Just curious.
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I kinda thought there was just a v1 and a v2; maybe I'm mistaken
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there is just a v1 and v2 of the protocol...I'm guessing the 86 is one of the proxy program's versions
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Burcwor Tech: Thanks. I am using the mccp download from the website with MUSH client and it says v86 when I type "compress"  It is an old download and I just wanted to make sure I am saving as much as I can.
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: it's true: You have compression (mccp v86) on.
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: mccp as implemented is crap -- must be online to load
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: but after loading, going offline then online is okay
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wtf are you talking about xyliz?
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: you did not get a clue, Cole
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I start my mccp clients offline routinely, no problems at all
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: apparently the external mccp client here does not load if not connected to the internet
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're complaining about a 10-year-old MSDOS program instead of using a decent proxy?
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Is the source for that mcclient available anywhere?
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: using the 2005 Aard recommended external mccp
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I do still have that proxy running 24/7 to allow relay connections from elsewhere on the Internet ;-)
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes rathik
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the source is there
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You pat Xyliz on her head.
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no such thing ;-)
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Burcwor Tech: So should I look for a better proxy? I mean, I'm not having any problems.
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: The source isn't included with the download from aardwolf.com
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: so long as you're getting a good compression, you're fine.
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you have no problems, it's fine to use...
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Burcwor Tech: I guess that's kind of what I'm wondering.  How do I know if I'm getting a good compression? What constitutes a good compression?
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for a new install, I'd recommend something not a decade old, like arkanes's
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Saving   : 91.59%  <-- the higher that bit, the better.
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as long as you're getting the 2 QPs, it's good enough ;-)
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Blessed Balaam rapidly nods twice to you, in complete agreement.
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: the longer you play, the smaller that percentage gets
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: i'm at 77.85%
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: nonsense.  I've played for over 11 years.
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: and your compression is at?
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: 91.59%, as I've shown.
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: you must be using some magic compression
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: actually, it's the more unique the data is, the better.  If you want to bump up that compression, just spam "score" a few times or something.
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: or are playing with brief, all channels off
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: etc
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Many channels on, brief.
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Burcwor Tech: Mine is in the 60s lol.
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: 81% to 82% here  
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Burcwor Tech: I've gotta go. Thanks everybody for your help! 
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: BTW, rathik, the source is removed from the PC zipfile, they left it in the Mac download link
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Ooh, thanks!
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the Mac and PC versions are from the same source, it's a unix program with just enough wrapper for DOS or MacOS classic
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but it's all still from 2001
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: arkanes's PiMP is much newer for windows
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (and is also opensource/GNU)
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Burcwor Tech: I will check it out. Thanks. :)
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Where is that Mac version downloadable from, anyway? :)
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: same place as the PC version...
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: www.aardwolf.com
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: click MUD resources, click MUD clients
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Ah, okay-- I found the PC version in help mccp
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, unfortunately, they have a habit of not giving the best information by linking to downloads instead of the pages themselves
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: same fault in the spellup plugin on the blog...it should NEVER have been posted there like that
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik seems to think you have the right idea.
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Now to figure out how to open .sit on Windows!
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://my.smithmicro.com/win/stuffit/expander.html
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain Flygo Tech: can you escape semicolons on the fmud client?
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: escape them? they're not parsed
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: They are treated as line breaks
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the flash client?
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I don't know of any escape method
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Captain Flygo rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Yes, on the one on aardwolf.com at least
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wow, neat
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain Flygo Tech: they're line breaks on the fmud client too
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Probably not the original one
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Maybe ;; or \;? That would be typical, I think
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Captain Flygo shakes his head.
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain Flygo Tech: @w
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain Flygo Tech: hmm, \ and semicolon don't work
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Patriot Tech: Does Spybot have a bad habit of destroying H registry keys?
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: Not that I've seen
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Patriot Tech: I missing a certain H regisry key that prohibits me from trying out the latest version of opera. Any suggestions?
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: Delete irl.
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Patriot Tech: thanks
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: prohibits or permits
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Patriot Tech: thanks
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Anyone available for a quick C++ problem solving?
T1/r6/2009-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Patriot Tech: Thanks for the registry advice. It worked
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Could Squid be used as an MCCP proxy?
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: How do I disable the Big Map window permanently in the Aard version of MUSHclient?
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: turn off the computer and light it on fire.  It will never come up again!
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: check the plugins with ctrl-shift-p and it should be listed somewhere in there.  Just uninstall that bit.
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: While true, I would still like to use the computer and MUSH
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: picky, picky.
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: file->plugin->select big map->remove
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: ahh so just disabling all the map parts doesn't work, I need to uninstall it?
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i hide my bigmap on the lower right part of the screen, i only need it on vidblain
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: removing it will work more than disabling.
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: well he wants to disable it permanently though
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: sec gotta restart to test...
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: restart?
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: It appears to work.  At least partially, I'm running Ubuntu though so I can't seem to edit the window initializer script to remove adding the bigmap and map windows
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: mushclient crashes every time i try
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: open it up in gedit or something.
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: oh yeah i forgot to check doing it that way, i'm so stupid
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I won't argue with that... but I do the same, so I probably should say that doesn't make you stupid.
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: where the crap is the window initializer one...?  what's the file name?
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: i'm looking at the mush parent directory atm
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: n/m i found it
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: that really gets up my effing nose
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: Anyone here used sibelius?
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: Anyone here used sibelius?
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: oops
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: I need a good way of writing something and importing into sibelius without using a sibelius file
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: not sure what it's compatible with
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: was thinking perhaps there might be a way to convert to midi file first
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if there's a file -> import, see if the resulting open dialog box has a file type drop-down
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: the problem is, I don't have sibelius
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: I won't get to use sibelius until tomorrow, but which point I need to be printing something out
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then ask whomever you're trying to give the file to what they can import
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: its for my own use, I need to print out in college, and don't have a printer
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: but college only has sibelius
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: download the manual
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: yeah, I guess maybe thats an idea
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: I'll try that, thanks
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: it's a very good idea.
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: or maybe I can workaround by using other software and taking a print screen for an image file hmmmm
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: not as good though
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and hand-written sheet music isn't acceptable?
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: it probably is, but my presentation often leaves a little to be desired, so best to print if I can
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: plus I may or may not need to submit a copy electronically
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but yeah, it does import midi files
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: reading the sibelius manual, apparently there is a file type called musicXML which is compatible with quite a few different types
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: nods, only thing is sometimes midi can be dodgy, if the tempo is like a little out of sync, you get bar lines where they are not supposed to be
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: but yeah, I'm gonna see if I can get a cheap free score editor and save as musicXML then I should have no problem (I hope)
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: thats the problem with sibelius, so bloody expensive unless you crack it, and this computer sucks so much it probably wouldn't even run it
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: I think its like #200+ for a copy
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can use the demo to see how it'll run on that computer, but the demo is non-saving, so not helpful for the project
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's meant for professional use
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: nods, but it doesn't have that many more features than some of the free score editors out there imo
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, full program is $600, educational is $329...they have a $129 "sibelius first" option
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: I really feel that is extortion
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: its like they are charging that much just to increase peoples views on the software
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: it MUST be good if they charge $600 for it......
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it really is that much better than the free score editors
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: depends, I'd compare it to using notepad instead of word to write a word document. Has everything you need if you don't need fancy tables and other features.....
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the other features are the point of using it
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: but a lot of those features are useless to me
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're making your living writing music, it is SOOOO worth it
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: heh, see Photoshop vs. the other guys... it's surprising just how much better they do the different features than many of the free image editors...
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: useless TO YOU isn't the same as worthless
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: I'm using it as notation software, not as composition software
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then don't use it
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: like I say, I have to, its all college uses, and they have printers, and I don't
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then find out about their license
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: either the college does not require you to use it, or they provide a way to have it reasonably
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: I am at liberty to just use sibelius in college
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: only problem is, I'm out of time now
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: I went into college today to do it, realise its bank holiday and IT suite is closed
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I doubt you were given the assignment today...
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: not at all, I was given it months ago
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: but if I do not complete it by tomorrow I could lose funding for next year, because its the final deadline
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then your bitch has nothing to do with the price of the software ;-)
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: That was a totally separate bitch yes
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: my main question was if anyone had any good ideas for writing a score on comp without sibelius, and some how exporting it to a comp WITH sibelius for printing
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: the price of sibelius is just a side rant
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: I actually use noteworth composer most of the time
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: and I'm a lot faster at using that then sibelius
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: noteworthy*
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: what can it export to?
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the price is justified for pro-level software
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can it do the xml?
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: I don't know yet, have to reinstall on this comp
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: never heard of musicxml files before today
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: well, perhaps my rant is not so much about sibelius, but the price of pro-level software in general =P
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, so you went for months without even trying to install any composition software
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: sibelius is not exactly an exception
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: stuff like cubase is ridiculously overpriced also =P
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: actually....my computer broke not too long ago
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: broke?
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: its a long story.....
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pro-level software saves the professional tens of thousands of man-dollars per year...the price is justified
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: I guess its pennies for them
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: and good for the devolopers if they can get that kinda money outta people
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: but I'm proud to say I will still be cracking software which is that expensive on principle instead of buying it.
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: yeah, it's pennies for them. Some of them aren't easy cracks, though.
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: had no problem with cubase, sibelius might be tougher, never tried
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: but it seems anything will get cracked once its big enough
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you're under the impression that the coders are all quite rich and do it just to extort even more money out of the poor, hardworking professionals
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: No, but I AM a strong believer in open source software.
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: I don
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: I don't think he said the coders, he said the developers..
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: who exactly pays the coders?
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: I'm aware of this Abe... :) My major was C.Sci.
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: But, but, I thought they did it for the love of helping people!
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Free Sibelius Scorch won't get you where you need to go?
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: sibelius scorch?
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: You did go to the Sibelius website...
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: well, I actually just clicked straight on the manual
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: damn this could be right what I need
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: so it just doesn't have some of the extra features full version has or something?
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: I prefer open-source when it's available, and comparable. I used open-source for a long time, but had to move to Photoshop given that it takes me half the time to do the same steps and the photos turn out better.
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I loved it when digidesign made pro tools free years ago (in Mac Classic/WinME days)
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: yeah, but the improvements in pro software since then...I wouldn't go back...
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, the discontinued page says they won't work in XP/OSX
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: I'm happy using CS2. It's solid, maybe not quite as good as the newer versions, but the price was right...and it does what I need to do, has even allowed me to expand skills. *shrug*
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: for the record, I loved GIMP, it's just not as efficient.
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, it's enough for people who don't sell by piece count, but get paid by hour ;-)
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we have a 10 pack of design CS4 at work, with software assurance
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: I don't sell by piece count, either--I just can't get as good quality from GIMPs algorithms...
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: if I'm just doing levels and curves, it doesn't really matter what I use, but if I need to get in and touch something up or add more blur to simulate a shallower DOF, then I'm starting up Photoshop and not GIMP.
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavelost Tech: omg...my phone is so stupid...i got a text from a number that A. doesn't exist and B. this phone's text got to me on December 31, 2019...any ideas how to fix? i tried beating it against the wall already charn...:P
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can't you just delete it?
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavelost Tech: i could...but this isn't the first text that is...a bit ahead of it's time...
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavelost Tech: wasn't sure if you guys would know what to do...
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: might not be anything to do
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: text messages are really just emails...sender's clock matters as well
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boden Tech: anyone know how to create a simple trigger for being able to quest again using the MUSHclient. I have had no success with ^QUEST: You may now quest again.$"
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: triggers mine ok
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: escape the final full stop?
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: boden, unless you check the "regular expression" checkbox, don't use ^ and $
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUSHclient normally uses glob matching, not regexp...glob is anchored without having to specify
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: there's a hash mark (#) in front of it, isn't there?
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no lacrimosa
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: okay, I must be thinking of something else
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boden Tech: so glob matching, would be normal text?
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the void message and the hungry/thirsty messages
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, simple matching is normal text...glob is slightly better in that it can use wildcards
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and branches
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but glob must match the entire line
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boden Tech: example of glob for being able to quest again?
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just get rid of the ^ and $
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boden Tech: i would really appreciate it.
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boden Tech: ok
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boden Tech: whats the wildcard char for simple glob expression?
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Indeed!
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: asterisk
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mortrud Tech: If I download a new font file, where do I unzip it to in my computer files?  I did it a long time ago but can't remember now :(
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: how often/how many fonts do you download?
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: if it's a lot, then find a font management program
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mortrud Tech: just a couple of times.
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: if just one or two here and there, you can just put the files into c:/windows/fonts
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: just keep your installed fonts under 1000...more than that really starts having effects on system performance.
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: incidentally, the very first result for googling windows add font is a microsoft kbase article on how to add fonts to your system...
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steevz Tech: Anyone run linux?
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: plenty of people do
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: i run gentoo why?
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steevz Tech: What mud client do you use?
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: i use tintin++
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tinyfugue is the best MUD client for every OS ;-)
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: alot of linux users use zmud or cmud with wine
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: blah i use aardclient
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: tintin++ very minimal and very nice
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tf runs natively on MacOSX, windows, linux/unix, OS/2, etc...no emulators needed ;-)
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: mushclient through wine
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steevz Tech: I just recently installed Archlinux 64.. I need to learn how to make a chrooted environment for wine still.
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: alt+f2 gksu dolphin find the app file and run as windows .exe?
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steevz Tech: I'm running MUSHclient on xp at work right now.. it's my favorite client so far.
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: -3
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tf isn't a good client for people who prefer working in a GUI environment though...it's a geek/tinkerer's client ;-)
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's a howto page on MUSH's site for best practices running it under wine
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: TF costs though right?
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maloroc Tech: nope
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steevz Tech: TF is free.
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Hmm, maybe i should try TF
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: If my stupid Vista will let me, it won't let me run c/zmud so idk
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: opensource, almost a 20 year history as a MUD client ;-)
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: ill take a look
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boden Tech: puTTY for the WIN!
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: putty is how I generally access tf
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: anyone know why some php code that i've moved from one webpage to another now decised to throw a "Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by...." error?
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boden Tech: need to change your file permissions
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: they -are- changed
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: need to be 755, right?
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boden Tech: 777 would be better, but double check your main 
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: can't be 777, server won't let it be group writable
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maloroc Tech: uhhhh 777 is generally a really bad idea 
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: stupid thing is, it's claining that the headers were already sent by line one
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: line one is <?PHP
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: line one is l
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: woops
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: which client was TF?
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tinyfugue
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: oh, isn't that a bit like Gmud?
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: hmm i'll have to look at it then.  What kind of scripting language does it use?
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it's doing -something- weird, shouldn't be thinking that the language decleration is header output
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: its own, or you can compile it to internally support a few others, or can even use system calls to use external scripts
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: in fact there are no print commands in this entire slab of code, so i don't know why it's thinking i'm sending output
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: What is the primary coding language of tf?
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: it's in C
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Will it work with C++ as well?
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the primary scripting language is its own
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't use C in tinyfugue
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: someone tell my how you should start a snippet of php code in a webpage...
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: you don't start it -- if it's in the web page, then it will run if your web server supports php
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: of course you start it, else it treats it as text, surely?
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you have to encapsulate your code snippets with <?PHP   and ?>, no?
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you configure your server to execute .php files rather than serving them
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: not my server, i can't change it's configuration
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if the code works on one page, logic dictates it should work on another
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: same server, same tree/account?
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: yep, only difference is the new one is in a subdirectory, but that really shouldn't make any difference
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: server can be configured to support php in parts of site, but not others
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd check file paths
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: ok, let me check by moving the file temporarily into the root
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: well i would, if this effing isp would even let me log back on
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nope, it's not a path issue
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i guess this is what happens when you have a webserver running linux
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You pat Feral Farkyss on his head.
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: pebkac
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: fuck off is it pebkac
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: language please :-)
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i guess tomorrow i'll have to unpick this code that's been working flawlessly for 2 years just because it doesn't want to work in a different page
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: absolutely ridiculous
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: have you read the logs?
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: there are no logs to read
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: have you replaced your code on the web page with hello world?
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: mm, worth trying, Swalec...
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: no, though the way things are going, that problably wouldn't work either
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: simple things are normally the right place to go
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: if hello world doesn't work, then there's no point fiddling with anything else
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it's not a path issue, so it wouldn't change anything
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: if hello world doesn't work, it would tell you where to focus your energy
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: other php pages on the server work fine
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: so hello world won't tell me anything new
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: yep, but not they one you are currently working on
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: yes, hello world works fine
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: hmmm, so it's definately your code that's broken
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if it's my code that's broken, then the php server is rather unhelpfully pointing at completely the wrong part where the error is
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i remember when ws_ftp was the best ftp program out there
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: for windows, maybe...
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: stripped out everything except the bare code, error still remains
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: well, that tells you something...it's the code.
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: caused by setcookie("ALPSET", null, time()-3600)
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: exactly the same code that works fine on all the other pages, lacrimosa
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: have you googled for it>
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: hmm... I haven't worked with PHP in way too long.
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: it might be a common gotcha
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it's far too vague for google to be any use
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: it's just failing silently -- no errors, nothing? 
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: no, i gave the error earlier
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: have you found where errors for things that you expect to fail appear?
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: ah, sorry missed that bit
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: you've google with the error message?
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and the error is easily googleable, with the issue explained
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vague my ass
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: Abelinc, there are many things I want to think about in this life
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: an your ass is not one of them
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Honestly, Abelinc googles "headers already sent by", clicks the first link, and reads "This problem is actually listed in the "common problems" section of the installation instructions"
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: You probably just have an extraneous linebreak somewhere Farkyss
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Rathik.
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Perhaps <?php isn't the first line of the script?
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: php cares about whitespace
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: well i would check, but unfortunately WS_FTP is shit and dies if you let it idle for more than 2 minutes, i'll let you know in a bit
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Swalec has never coded in php in his life
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: run it on a server at home first, so you know it works
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Filezilla is a good free FTP client
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: ok, definitely not linespace issues
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: isn't there a setting in WS-FTP that will let you set how long before it closes control connection? I think you might be dealing with a server thing there, not your end...
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: line terminators?
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: and I swear by Filezilla, too, Rathik
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Maybe pastebin your code?
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: sorry, in english?
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pastebin is a website for copy/pasting text so others can see it
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: ahh
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is this a php page, or are you embedding php commands further down in an html page?
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: embedding
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: the faulting code though is at the top
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: before the header tags, as it's supposed to be
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you're saving it as .php, not .html, right?
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: yes sir
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Do you have any includes before the setcookie?
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and the code is all self-contained, no other files being called?
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: no
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: and no
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: no includes in the whole file
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it was a custom made error designed to annoy the crap out of me because they knew i'd be trying to fix it at 11pm while very tired indeed
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just for fun, grab that page that does work, open it in your editor (whatever you made the not-working page in), change some silly text in the html, and do a save as with a different name & upload it
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: can the text be racist?
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm wondering if it's a line ending issue
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since you're on Doze & the server is linux...iirc wsftp can be configured to translate
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: sec, will try
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nope, same errors
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nice thought though
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wait, the working page is now erroring when saved (practically unmodified)?
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that would agree with my suggestion
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that either your editor or the ftp process itself is the culprit
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: no, not tried it with the working page
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: might be tricky, since the working page has lots of other stuff on it
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i could recopy the php part again, i guess
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: the full error text is:
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do the whole page, with all the other stuff
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /share/storage/01/dc/user/V2SANDBOX/new.php:1) in /share/storage/01/dc/user/V2SANDBOX/new.php on line 59
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: take the working page and don't modify it, just save as pagename-new.php
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: then upload it back to your server and try to load it.
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: that'll tell you if it's something in your ftp dl/edit/ftp upload that's messing it up.
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: ok, grabbed a working page with the same code, uploaded it as you said, and besides a bunch of images/includes not found, it works without the same error
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: ok, grabbed a working page with the same code, uploaded it as you said, and besides a bunch of images/includes not found, it works without the same error
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: woops
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: meh, happens occasionally.
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: the server heard me saying rude things about linux, that's what it is
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: lol, likely... but that's not usually the case. Computers do what they're told to do--but sometimes what we think we told them is not what they read from the same instrutions
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: found the solution
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: or rather, found -a- solution, but still don't have ideas as to why/how
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Who has a cool alias for Mushclient to cast spells on another?
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Anyone?
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nick gammon, the guy that wrote MUSHclient itself
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=8780
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: #alias {spell %0} {cast 'butt' %0; cast 'gayness' %0; cast 'diaper rash' %0; etc}
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: ono also has one, which is user configurable, you have to edit some parts though
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heinrich Tech: can anyone free that understands ftp send me a tell please
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just go ahead and ask your question :-)
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: maybe he just wants tells.  No actual question.
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Is there a way in mush to time the period between trigger fires (such as a level timer)
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Is it difficult to do?
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You can call os.time
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: To get the current time
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: store the time in a variable.  use os.time() or world.GetInfo(72)
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: As long as you're not wanting any more granularity than seconds.
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: easy enough to do by setting a variable, then have a timer in xx seconds/minutes to delete the variable
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then check for its existence
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Ok now im lost.
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: trigfires...if variable recent_trig_fire exists, do foo...endif...set variable recent_trig_fire...timer 2 minutes delete variable recent_trig_fire
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: give or take
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Andor (Tighearn) tells the CLAN: 'somehow I got zmud to stop triggering my entrance and putting in the name and password .. and I cant find where to fix this :P'
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the world properties should have a slot for user/pass
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: Is anyone running AardMUSH through Wine?
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: I am.
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I'm running normal MUSH through wine at the moment.
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: im running upgraded aard
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: I'm running 4.33 Mushclient (aard version) on Ubuntu 9.04
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: I'm just wondering if it is feasible to run the Aard custom MUSHclient through Ubuntu 8.10
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: it should be
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: It's just a few plugins added.
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: Balaam, I understand that, just cbf'd putting them all in individually :P
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: So, all I should need to do is run the installer through WINE?
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: Yeah, it works.
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: yep, just wine the installer.
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: the upgrade to 4.40
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: I used to use it on 8.10, only problem I had, was the one I still have.  You can't go to ctrl-shift-p and click a plugin to edit it, you have to do it manually via going to the folder and opening it with gedit or something
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: Mmk. Had any problems running through WINE?
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: Mmk, shouldn't be all that much of a problem if that is all I have to worry about.
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: Thinking of buying a netbook soon anyway :P
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: be warned...  the miniwindows are quite cramped on my Eee-pc 901
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: I'll just downsize the font.
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: why bother with a netbook? Lenovo laptops are about the same price...and full-sized/full-featured
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I had to modify a few to get the ones I really wanted in there without overlap or disappearance.
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: I disabled all of the stupid windows the aard client throws in there.  It's too distracting.
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Lenovo is also junk mostly.
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: Lacrimosa, I don't wanna be carrying around a full size laptop 24/7 like I have been doing.
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: if i go netbook i want an eee
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: aah. I'd rather be able to do anything I want instead of being limited
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: Eh, on this PC, I've got Map, Stats, Chats and Spellup Window running alongside each other quite nicely.
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Eees and Aspire Ones seem to be the best out of the netbooks.
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: or the new netbook, i can't remember who makes it, but it's supposed to run off of the nvidia ion chip
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Lacrimosa: How would you be limited?
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: I'm thinking of going with the acer AOD.
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: On my laptop i have main window with stats and map on the top half of chats
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: screen size. I have a tendency to want to edit photos, and I don't use a map plugin..
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: The Lenovo netbook appears to be running with ion.
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: I have my main window.  I never switch to another one.  Maps are neat, but I would rather learn the area on my own than seeing a map.  If I were to actually switch to another window it would be the Chats windo
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Lacrimosa:  Do I edit photos?
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: no idea, but I do. :) 
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lacrimosa said HE prefers to not be limited, not that you aren't fine on a netbook
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I'd rather not be limited by carting around a large, heavy laptop around with me when I'm wandering around for miles each day.
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lacrimosa is female, thanks.
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: Do you actually wander around for miles each day?
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: yes, I walk at least two miles every day.
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: sorry, nearly every day.
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: notebook backpacks are great for that
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: meh, fair enough--my laptop's usually on my desk hooked up to the network unless I'm heading to a friend's or out of town.
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I'm just amused by the fact that people completely miss out on the idea behind netbooks.  They are portable.
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: That's cool.  If I lived in the city I would walk.
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: And that's what a desktop is for.
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: I have one of those, too. ;)
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're portable, but to me they're just as useless as blackberries
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: erm...  and that's what _my_ desktop is for, rather.
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I haven't run into any issues with my netbook yet.
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm perfectly happy walking around for miles with a 15.4" laptop
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: netbooks wouldn't have anywhere near the productivity for my usage
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: I love my crackberry... :) And I can hike about 3-4 miles with my laptop, no problem...
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: for your usage, maybe not.  Depends on what each person is using it for.
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: im using netbook when mobile, especially when attending seminars
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: I want a netbook, something fierce.
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I can also wander around carting a 60lb backpack.  Doesn't mean I'd rather carry around 3lbs.
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: bah, doesn't mean I wouldn't rather...  stupid trying to type and kill at the same time.
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You snicker softly.
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: netbooks for mobility! yay!
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I also try to not overload my backpack...previous IT director had a leather case that was full to bursting with so much crap it was insane, couldn't go from car to office without huffing
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: the only thing I don't like about my netbook is the lack of a numberpad.  Which are hard to find on laptops anyway.  And for anything requiring a decent amount of power, it's a desktop.
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: So, has anyone here tried Linux Mint?  I saw some screenshots and it looked really good, but I don't know if I could switch from Jaunty since it works so well.
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: check the newer laptops--more are being made with numberpads now
T1/r6/2009-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I liked Mint when I used it.
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, that name is just so wrong for those with old-school unixy backgrounds
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I used to run MiNT as an OS
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: the larger ones are...  which makes for less portable, again.
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: or you can pick up a usb numberpad for under $10 and throw it in your bag with your netbook. doesn't take a ton of space/weight...
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: and you only have to take it when you need it
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: i'm not old-school, i got into the game with 8.04 and liked it.  I haven't really tried much else though, just Knoppix and backtrack, which don't really count since they are liveCD's
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Yeah, that's what I did.  But I got a wireless one with the mouse too.
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: yeah, almost can't get away without wireless mouse/keyboard these days anyway.
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I'm OG. I remember when getting Xwindows to run on Slackware was something worth bragging about.
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Wireless mice are much easier when you're not sure how much room you will have around you.  On my desktop, I'm still rocking it old school with PS\2 kb & mouse.
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: With that user friendly setup interface, with intuitive questions about things like the sync rates of your monitor.
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: first release of Xorg was much the same.  It involved a LOT of cursing at my monitor.
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod oby, xfree didn't run on framebuffer-based vid cards early on
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it presumed everything was wintel
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Geeks today don't know how easy they have it. :P
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: yeah, my desktop has ps/2 kb/mouse, but I use Synergy and run both comps off the wireless kb/mouse hooked to my laptop :)
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Synergy is fantastic.  We use that a lot here at work for the Ubuntu and XP machines next to each other.
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I have to remind myself of that when the only thing I have left to whine about is the fact that a proprietary binary blob driver for an integrated wireless network chip in a laptop doesn't work automatically out of the box.
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: bah, real men write their own drivers.
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, don't mention that to farky, oby :P
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I try as hard as I can not to mention anything to Farky. :P
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: that way I'm not fighting for cord length if I'm dealing with a flareup and need to have my feet elevated (usually put them up on my desktop, put mouse on my lap)
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Flareup? You have herpes on your feet?
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: roids :P
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: ....on his FEET?
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: no, I have lupus which causes my ankles and hands to swell up and makes me exhausted. I'm FEMALE, btw.
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Honestly, Abelinc sends Lacrimosa some Tucks medicated pads
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: some people have foot fetishes.
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: How do you guys deal with printers and linux?
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: with cups
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cups
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Pfft. No girls on teh interwebz.
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: And for a second chan meme: It's not lupus.
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lacrimosa is definitely female.
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's never lupus
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: I've got a lexmark and it has it's on stupid proprietary software, making it utterly useless to a linux box :( Unless there is a way around it, that I haven't seen on the forums.
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: and it is, unfortunately, lupus, regardless of House's comments
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Stranton: Which is funny, since Lexmark started as an IBM subsidiary.
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: But it was Lupus on House once.  They spent like 10 minutes expressing surprise afterwards.
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: The only thing I still have trouble with on Linux is that the sound support with ALSA is just crap, which unfortunately makes it pretty much useless for me, which really sucks, because otherwise I love it.
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: yeah.
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I like the episode where he is hiding his Vicodin in the book on lupus, because it's never lupus.
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: I can't seem to turn up the graphic effects on this laptop i'm on.  My old one could do it but I didn't have acpi functions
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: it's a really annoying disease to have. I can never bet that I'm going to feel good when I wake up in the morning. :/
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I understand they're working on some new-ish sound architecture that has better results than ALSA in some cases, but I remember it not working for me on this hardware. I could probably get away with a pro audio recording interface and ASIO drivers or something, but meh.
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I've honestly had about as much trouble on Windows since they did away with DirectSound. I've never seen an industry that moves slower on releasing drivers than pro audio. It's insane.
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: I heard about ubuntu from digg...  I gave it a shot and I refuse to use windows unless I have to print, and then i just email it to work and print there.
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: They should just include a book of C and Linux Device Drivers with every pro audio item they sell
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: It's that bad even on Windows.
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Honestly, Abelinc reminds Obyron to get a Mac ;-)
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: There are high end audio companies (Alesis, MOTU...) that still don't support 64 bit processing.
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: Mac's have their own problems too.
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: If I weren't dropping 400 bucks on audio gear every time I turn around, I could afford a mac. ;)
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I think nowadays the issue is mostly that pro audio no longer requires outboard horsepower
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: until that mac breaks and no one carries that part without overcharging it by 400%
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I really prefer the outboard horsepower. :P
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah, parts are commodity
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: No one makes any kind of decent sound card that has high quality ADCs.
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: You may as well just record with the ol' tin can/string interface.
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, the first Mac I bought myself (94) had an AT&T DSP3210 to offload a/v
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: So with that being the case it's easier to spend money on a good piece of audio gear that has good ADCs, preamps, etc., and have a purely digital connection to your PC. From there you can do all your mixing in a DAW, but there's no substitute for quality input. SISO.
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you mean I shouldn't be using an 1/8th phono for my in/out connection?
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Yay for mini-stereo!
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: There was a time when I thought recording open air with nothing but one of those crappy PC mics was good enough.
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I work at a library system, our youth coordinator and web coordinator both come from production backgrounds...they were recording a training shortly after the web coordinator started...they made a makeshift studio in a storage room using carpet tiles for dampening
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: now web coordinator's asking for studio lights...I'm like "hey, facilities has halogen worklights" :P
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: And he's like, "But it puts off high frequency noise that's getting picked up by our Shure SM-80 microphones!"
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, the only shures are at my house
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: is there anyone that knows tricks for itunes syncing?  cause it's being B for me right now :P
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boden Tech: close itunes completely, make sure no instance of it is running, disconnect your Ipod/Iphone/itouch.
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boden Tech: then load itunes back up, connect your device. 
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Starbug nods.
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: any ideas why a class would keep turning itself off?
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SealPoint Tech: you keep typoing something and it turns off your channel
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: zmud trigger class, not channel
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SealPoint Tech: Ahh, I just woke up, I can't read yet
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: something's telling it to turn off, dunno how to find out what/where though
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: hmmmm davos made the script but i haven't seen him in ages
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so it's c & not zmud, shouldn't be any real difference for this though
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: its his exp,double,quest tracker
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: not too much difference
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, ack, using sql file instead of textfile to import scripts...
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have you installed any other scripts lately, or done anything yourself? you may have 2 scripts that tried to use the same classname, & the other script turns its class off routinely
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: may be it most of my others are ones i wrote
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: or converted to cmud
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: hmmmm when i type whois it turns off
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: at least i've found the command
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, try echoing each line of the whois output, see if it's a trigger or an alias for typing of the word whois itself
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: could do that
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: whats the command to see the mud code lines i can't remember
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: tags, maybe
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: fixed
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: thankyou
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaYne Tech: hi, can i run zmud with maps on a netbook?
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: Shouldn't be a problem.
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: main problem would be screen real estate
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaYne Tech: hmm
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaYne Tech: what's a good netbook pls
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaYne Tech: i shld get solid state drive right?
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaYne Tech: this is 4 when i travel and i can't lug a laptop ard
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: its a big big premium for SSD
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: Honestly? Just go with a good 160gb hdd :P
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaYne Tech: ok!
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: http://www.somethingawful.com/d/guides/pc-building-guide.php
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warder Tech: is there anyone around who can help me troubleshoot a cmud scripting problem?
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: Is it possible to print preview without a printer?
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Yes.
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: What's the workaround?
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: do you have Microsoft 
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: print to a pdf
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Should just be able to go into File->Print Preview.
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: yes
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: nods, it just says print preview is not available since no printer is installed
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: hence my question
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: bah if I could just convert .nwc to dot .sib I'd be laughing
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: but, the converter I had doesn't work because apparently there is .nwc and .nwc 2, but it just doesn't show the 2 part
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: now I have a ton of work stuck on a client I can't export from
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: only thing I can think to do is attempt to create an image file with print screens. But it ain't even giving me a print preview *sigh*
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Ah. Noteworthy Composer?
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: yes, same rubbish as yesterday
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: I just thought I'd found a converter that would work
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I wasn't here for it yesterday. :P
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: turns out, it doesn't
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: basically the problem I have is, I don't have a printer with me, and college only has sibelius to read .sib files, and admin refuse to give me root or install nwc
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: need to get this practically unexportable nwc to .sib somehow, or any format that will allow transfer
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: What version of Noteworthy do you have?
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: can you change it to a .dat and just change it back when you get somewhere you can print?
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: 2, and only the demo version
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: so I can't even export as MIDI, (not that that is especially good idea anyway)
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You should get 1.75 instead. The converter to Sibelius only works for 1.75 and lower.
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: problem is, 1.75 won't open this nwc2 file I have
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Ugh. That sucks.
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: I downloaded 1.75 aswell, but only after I typed up on nwc2
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: so I'm literally planning to spend hours making lots of copying and pastes into an image file
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: but even that is now made slower but not being able to see print preview
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I take it you've already downloaded the viewer?
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: Why would I need the viewer though?
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: I can view the files with the actual nwc client, and college are refusing to install any programs
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: if I could install the viewer at college problem solved perhaps
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Perhaps print preview? :P http://www.noteworthysoftware.com/nwc2/viewer.htm
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You should install it to a flash drive instead.
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: like I say, it was just saying can't print preview when no printer installed
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: No chance of converting nwc2 to a 1.75 format?
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: also, I'm not convinced the converter to .sib works even if I get it on 1.75
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Gregor: As of NWC2 Beta 2.13, you can regress a file back to version 1.75 using the File, Export command.
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: I tried it out on nwc2 before I knew it wouldn't work and that file, and it seemed to be dodgy, it didn't even attempt to convert the file
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: Nods, thats the other sucky part, to use export you have to pay
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Hmmm.
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: I'll retry it though
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: bleh doesn't work, if I'm gonna spend money paying for the software, I might aswell just go buy a new printer instead
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: guess that would solve the problem, but I'm trying to save money if I can
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: and if this useless comp I'm on refuses to run the printer then the situation has gotten even worse
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: maybe I'll just attempt to do something illegal with nwc2, convert to nwc1, convert to .sib, and voila
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: How do I play a system beep off of a trigger in mush?
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: the help in aardmush through wine is too small to read
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: Anyone here use MUSHclient and know how to write small triggers/scripts?
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: What is the syntax in Lua to do a mathmatical funtion?
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: print(a+b)
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: thanks charn
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Or print(a*b) or whatever you want to do. :P That'll print it. Otherwise, just do a+b or whatever.
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: Anyone want to help me with a trigger?
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: yay, connected from my DS[D
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: not r[Bquit
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogos Tech: not really worth it... backspace and other keys generate those odd characters
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: anyone remember if WPA OR WPA2 can cause random lag when playing aard or using the internet?
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: i have an older iwreless card
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LeoChen Tech: hi, I am using MUSHclient. Is there any dictinoary plugin in MUSHclient to lookup words 
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LeoChen Tech: hi, I am using MUSHclient. Is there any dictinoary plugin in MUSHclient to lookup words ? Please help me
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: Anyone here know anything about sounds and MUSHclient?  Especially, if you're running under wine?
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: I not that for ages while I had mush running under WINE no sound would work at all
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: not = know
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: as in, I couldn't use any other app that used sound at the same time
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: that's likely to be a general linux issue -- you can try cycling through any of the many different sound servers that exist till you find one that works
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: what is your problem anyway?
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: I don't intend to.  I just want it to play a ding whenever I can quest again.  Just to test it, I made an alias called testsound and then set it to send to script and inside of it I put Sound ("apert.wav")
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: Actually, I thought it was more to do with MUSH not being 100% compatible with WINE =P
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: Do I need to specify a path?
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: doesn't mush have some type of sounds folder?
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: I don't know.  I can't read the help since under wine it is too small to read.
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: iirc, it has a sound folder in the directory, then if a file is placed there you won't need to specify a path
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: cos mush will know where to look
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: ahh, how do i specify a path though, i don't want to move it or copy or whatever
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: you probably just need the location in full
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: shame you can't see the help files, it lists the different ways of playing sounds depending on which script language you are using
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: how would i word it.. for example if i didn't have to point it, i know it should be "" Sound ("apert.wav") "" minus the double quotes
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: I saw that on the website but it doesn't show you how to direct it if it's not in the sound directory (it also doesn't say anything about that)
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: you on windows?
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: Just list like c:/folder/folder/folder/file.wav maybe
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: Ubuntu 9.04.  If I was on windows I wouldn't worry about it being in wine...
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: I don't know for certain, never played sounds
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: yeah duh, obviously =/
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: my bad =P
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: but clicking on the folder or viewing properties on it, perhaps will give you the full path?
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: sound file even
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: i have the full path i just wasn't sure where to place the path i guess just as the file name i suppose
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: yeah, the location becomes part of the file name
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: well, try it, is all I can suggest =P
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: which script language are you using?
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: lua
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: you want me to note you the examples it gives for lua?
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: that's a negative on it working, i suppose i could copy it
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: not that that would solve the location thing, cos in the examples it just uses file.wav
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: no location
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: but I'm assuming that was because they are expected to be in the sound folder
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: yeah, probably
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: perhaps you could try it in the sound folder with 1 file just to troubleshoot and make sure your syntax for playing the sound is correct?
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: but like I say, I could never even get sound working with MUSH under wine
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: but actually come to think of it...the directory will still be C:/ something maybe
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: since wine mimics the windows setup for folders
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: but if thats the case...it will only able to play files stored inside WINE folder =S
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: I just tried Sound ("apert.wav") | Sound ("C:\Program Files\MUSHclient\sounds\apert.wav") | Sound ("/usr/lib/share/openoffice/basis3.0/sounds/apert.wav") and neither of them worked
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: hm oh well, i guess i'll go back to painting the kitchen
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: lol
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: Well, maybe you need some way of finding out if sound is even activated....
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: like an easy test or something
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: not one that could be do to sound issues OR a bad syntax
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: agr that's what i was doing with an alias, since there is no way to directly do it from the commandline, i was hoping for a system beep type of thing but i couldn't find it
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: to first establish there aren't some serious sound issues running MUSH under WINE
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LeoChen Tech: How to change the variables that pass to my webbrowser when I click "GO to URL" in MUSHclient?
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: yeah I was just looking for beep now actually, can't see it either
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: well thanks for looking bbiab
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Ivar)  Gregor rapidly nods twice at Stranton, in complete agreement.
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andor Tech: anyone know how you can a var which has two words in and move it to another var, but only with one of those words?
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: uh in general yes
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andor Tech: ?
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: client? language? :p
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andor Tech: zmud .. 
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andor Tech: and I'm a serious beginner
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andor Tech: for example - var1="moon sun" ... I want Var2="moon"  and var3="sun"
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: #VAR var2 
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: #VAR var2 %word(,1)
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: #VAR var2 %word(ar1,1)
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: #VAR var2 %word(1)
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: i give up
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: #VAR var2 %word(@Var1,1)
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, inicus, click the computer icon to turn off parsing :P
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and double the @s
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andor Tech: where do you see inicus? :P
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: #VAR var2 %word(@Var1,#) will set var2 to the #th word of var 1
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oops, inferno
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: actually killing for once, didn't pay enough attention ;-)
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andor Tech: rofl I meant thanks a lot inferno :)
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: i think we al just need to start over
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: settier 0;setlevel 1
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: anyway to tell zmud to log automatically when aard starts
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Yes.
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Oh, did you want me to tell you how to do it?
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: i have looked at help files, can't seem to figure it out
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: hehe sure :)
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Because that's an entirely different question.
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: i was wondering if someone could help me tell zmud to start logging when i start it :p
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: There are many ways. Using an atconnect alias. Triggering off the logon prompt. :P
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: ok you said many ways, so that is one....
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: No, there are two.
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Alias being one, trigger being the other.
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: hmmmmm
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: There are other ways, too, but those are the two most used ones.
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: ok so what is the command used in the code to tell the log to append
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: #LOG automatically appends to the existing log.
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: sweet
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: good deal
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: thanks 
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: That'll be 500,000 gold, please.
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: My answers don't come too cheap.
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yiminy Tech: peck *peck* *peck* is this thing on?
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drednaught Tech: anyone use iobit's smartdefrag?
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drednaught Tech: guess not :)
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: I prefer to entrust my crappy microsoft machine to crappy microsoft software :)
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: That's weird, Microsoft makes machines?
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drednaught Tech: im trying to figure out what command-line options i have and it's been a bitch...
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: doesn't MS still have their hands in Intel and other hardware companies?
T1/r6/2009-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drednaught Tech: news to me...
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: Would it be possible in Mush to 'spellup after 5min of afk?'
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: wouldnt that be botting if you are away from keyboard? ;)
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: but it's possible
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: I don't know would it? I just hate when I come back and then having to spellup... I want that fresh sup sitting there for me
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: Any place where I can get information on some scripting like that? Its pretty advanced for me
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: forum for mush has some info about scripting 
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: alrighty
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deepy Tech: I'm using PuTTY, my stats looks kinda funky
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deepy Tech: Can I reset all my settings to default?
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: type statmon
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deepy Tech: ah, thank you
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deepy Tech: Hmm, I get chan ch=tech before Tech
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: that's a tag, have a read of help tags
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deepy Tech: I can't just reset all settings back to default?
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Yes...  read 'help tags' to find out how.
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Always useful to read, you may find you discover that you want to do something other than just turn them off
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: wow how did that happen
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deepy Tech: Well I suppose I have more settings enabled that are not suitable for a telnet client
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deepy Tech: Which is why I want to reset ALL settings, tags, statmon etc 
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: tags off is probably your best bet if you're not running through a mudclient
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yup that should let you toggle all your tags on or off.
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: I use putty too, but I only use it to get to my tf
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: there's no "go back to v2 mud output" option, have to do it separately
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien rapidly nods twice at Remind Hargreaves, in complete agreement.
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Sadly I have a pc in one room running tf and I get to sit in bed on my laptop with putty
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Remind Hargreaves grins mischievously.
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tslacker Tsarikos Tech: any recommendations for a good client to use on Mac?
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: a hammer
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: a nail?
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: failing that, i hear TinyFugue is quite popular
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tslacker Tsarikos Tech: hm k shall check it out, thanks
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: any recommendations for a long battery life laptop?  google said elitebook 6930p, but not seeing too many opinions on that.
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: and the 24hour being marketed smells like 24hours if you only run the os on min light levels :P
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Squeeky Kroz Tech: what was that thing to tell zmud to look around and recognise the room you are in?
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: for the mapper? #find
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Squeeky Kroz Tech: thanx, that's the thing
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faerlun Tech: how can i check if there are connections on my wireless router that aren't supposed to be there?
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: log into its web interface
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: depends on the router -- checking the logs is the best place to start
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: one of its tabs will be something like "status"
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: once you're logged into the web interface, look around at the status page, the wireless page, maybe even the admin page...the list of clients will either be right on the page or there may be a "show connected clients" button
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: OFF
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faerlun Tech: and i'm using google chrome.. but i get everytime page not available, even on google.com :S
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faerlun Tech: it says that the webpage is not available or moved to another webadress
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faerlun Tech: could it be the mudclient connection that is buggin?
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faerlun Tech: logs show nothing special
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faerlun Tech: ok.. i tested the internet conenction.. but it says this > connection to gateway (195.190.241.11) (the IP mentioned doesnt look liek any of the IP's that are in my network
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faerlun Tech: no internet connection, but logged into aard? help anyone?
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: what os
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faerlun Tech: win xp
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: how many connections do you have if more then one try diabling the ones not connected to an internet source
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: what browser do you run?
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: make sure its not in offline mode
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faerlun Tech: at the moment there are 2 connections, one is from a laptop with windows vista on it, browser is IE on that one, the other is my own pc with XP and Chrome on it
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faerlun Tech: both WIFI
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: i mean connections liek i have 4 possible internet connections on this one computer 2 ethernet ports 2 wireless cards
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faerlun Tech: both are connected to the right modem
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if you're connected to aardwolf, there's nothing wrong with your internet connection
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: i say make sure chrome isnt in offline more try using ie if ie connects tehn chrome is in offline mode
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faerlun Tech: think i found out the problem
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: actually farkyss i usually have my wireless connected to my router and an ethernet line and aardwolf uses the line hookup while i use the wireless for website browsing 
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: so you can have an issue if your browser is trying to use a connection that isnt connected
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faerlun Tech: my housemate is also on on the network with a PS3
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: while aardwolf is using the connected one
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: doesn't really matter, if you're connected to aardwolf, your internet connection is working
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faerlun Tech: problem is that my browser doesnt go to any pages
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: check to see if browser is in offline mode
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faerlun Tech: so i was wondering of the bandwith is all used up  or something like that
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faerlun Tech: how can i check that in Chrome?
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: nah aardwolf uses almost none
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: not sure on chrome i roll firefox
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: chrome is on my windows partition
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faerlun Tech: some pages he does load, and some not.. 
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faerlun Tech: net::ERR_NAME_NOT_RESOLVED)
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: problem with a dns server, i guess
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faerlun Tech: hard boot on the router?
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faerlun Tech: oh well.. as long aard is working.. thanks anyway :)
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Taking suggestions for best music player that allows utilization of media keys and has a lyrics plugin (meaning it searches lyric databases for lyrics to the song). Requirements: Can't be too bloated/sluggish and must be very stable.
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyrayne Tech: can someone help me understand aliases?
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: What do you need to understand about them?
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyrayne Tech: is there a way to set up an alias with a variable...like to attack a target?
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: First question - which client are you using?
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Probably, but it depends on your client.
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Are you using a client?
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: It's always a client, even telnet is a client :P
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyrayne Tech: using the Aardwolf mush client
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyrayne Tech: I used a different client back in the day, on another mud, and have no clue about this client or mud
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: does anyone know of a program that can convert PrintMaster (like, old versions from the 90s) files to something else like txt or pdf?
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: without the help of printmaster, since my mom's PM cd just broke
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tlaloc feeds the crickets
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: hooray, found a free download
T1/r6/2009-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: back to quiet mode :D
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Invite Tiana Tech: any mush experts?
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: what's your question?
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Invite Tiana Tech: is there a checkbox for leave same command in line until i change it
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: yeah, Auto-repeat command I think, in Config-Input-Commands
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Invite Tiana Tech: nope it still clears command line
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: not sure what to tell you, if I uncheck it, my commands go away after return
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: once checked, they stay (highlighted too)
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Invite Tiana Tech: i tried keep commands on prompt too and that didn't work either
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: Auto-Repeat works for me (using v4.40)
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Invite Tiana Tech: this is the 4.37
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Invite Tiana Tech: so thats bad right
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Invite Tiana P
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: nah, it worked for me in 4.37 too, but the layout of the config changed a little once I moved to 4.40
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: should still work the same...
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ScarletWitch Tech: yay i got the highlight :)
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ScarletWitch thanks Gonf heartily.
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: highlights? in your hair? :p
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rithlin goes ooOOooOOoo.
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ScarletWitch Tech: command line is stable :)
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Patriot Tech: Kick his butt!
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: ahh cool :)
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ScarletWitch Tech: saving settings i guess is necc for some changes?
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: your hair has a command line?
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habasi Tech: what what what ?
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: there isn't a save in 4.40, so I missed that part of the instructions :p
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: just clicking "ok" saves it
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ScarletWitch Tech: i didn't see the new version on his site only the 4.37
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: Its not considered a "stable" release yet, but you can get it here http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/forum.php?bbtopic_id=1
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: I forgot why I upgraded, it was trivial
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: actually, might have been for miniwindows
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ScarletWitch Tech: cant use all that at work anyway
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ScarletWitch Tech: just looking for something that doesnt lag liek telnet
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ScarletWitch Tech: this is faster than zmud tho
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ScarletWitch Tech: for me anyways
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: yes, zmud is a bit heavy, but its prettier
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ScarletWitch Tech: nods i dont care about pretty
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ScarletWitch Tech: for captures, do you use another world set to 0.0.0.0 or do you use notepad
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ScarletWitch Tech: ft gt etc
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: other windows
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: I don't capture any channels right now, but I do keep moons/quest info in miniwindows
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deepy Tech: Is it okay to have scripts that re-buff me when I'm not in battle?
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: yes
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deepy Tech: What if I accidently leave the computer for a short while? Maybe for quick food. I have problem when I get hungry or get low blood sugar (I only get really passive and tired. Nothing fatal)
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: 'help botting' should be pretty informative
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: its ok, even if you die and your character continues to buff you up (called spellup here, btw)
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deepy Tech: That's the one I'm nervous about. It's kinda hard to get a script to know if I'm AFK or not
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: just bot, everyone in ba'al does
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Komrad Kessel Tech: no, it's not, not if you use the afk command and set/unset flags based on that
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deepy Tech: Well there's the problem, when I have to run away and get something I'm usually too down and/or passive to even remember to change status
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: dont worry as long as you dont spell others youre fine
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Komrad Kessel Tech: then have an alarm based flag that'll toggle it if you don't enter commands for a given time period
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deepy Tech: Ah, great :-)
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Komrad Kessel Tech: oh, and gentoo is right, too, I just saw the thing about afk
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: and most client have afk detector scripts
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deepy Tech: I suppose that would work. You don't happen to have a MUSHclient script for "smart" queueing of attacks in battle?
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deepy Tech: I usually rack up lots of spells and then die because I can't flee :D
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: never stack attacks
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yeah, Xyliz is right. I've got 894 reasons to back him up. :P
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Well, not all of those were from stacking to be fair.
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deepy Tech: but then I miss casting a magic during a turn :p
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: put each attack request through an alias that checks hp, and if hp extremely low quaff heal then attack, or if hp merely medium then attack and quaff heal
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deepy Tech: Ah! Smart! :D
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deepy Tech: Is Aardwolf so advanced I can do that completly server-side or do I have to do it locally too?
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: mudclient alias
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deepy Tech: over at my school there's some slight... difficulties connecting to Aardwolf for... some people, is there any smooth way to setup a proxy for them?
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: can they connect on port 23?
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deepy Tech: Nope, but I can
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Erm...  why just you?
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deepy Tech: Because unlike most of them, I actually followed during lessons so I know how o :p
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deepy Tech: How to even
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: oh, well then get them to follow lessons.
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deepy Tech: Does the MCCP Proxy support multiple connections by the way?
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deepy Tech: It does! Problem solved! Adieu!
T1/r6/2009-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deepy Tech: how do I turn off the big map in MUSHclient Aardwolf edition?
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: 7.2
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: simple capture script using tags for cmud -- i know there is one, but i lost my old files
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: anyone wanna sell some cmud scripts and such
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: when I type #show %char is it supposed to show me my character name?
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: anmyone know why this gain reporter from crimson won't capture what i get from questor?
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samial Tech: what should i do seeing aardwolf isn't connecting to the ip address?
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Deepy Tech: Can you ping it?
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Deepy Tech: Is it trying to use a proxy? Connect with dialup?
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samial Tech: dude i don't even know what that means
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Deepy Tech: Okay, first bring up cmd. Start-menu > Run -> cmd (then press enter)
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Deepy Tech: In cmd, try typing 'ping insertheipaddressitstryingtoconnectohere'
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samial Tech: Whoa, if that's the case then rather not, this aint my pc and I'm not willing to cough up cash for it stuffing up again.
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Deepy Tech: This is a normal and perfectly safe way of troubleshooting a connection
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Deepy Tech: PING just asks the other computer if it's online, if it is. It answers back saying "Yes I'm online!" and ping tells you how long it took
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: ping's not going to make your computer go bye byes
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: unless you ping a supersecret NSA address then they come and take your computer away
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samial Tech: No look where i work all the computers are directly connected with the three networks voda, mtn and cell c.. I'm not a technical person and have screwed up the pc's here already. Thanks for the help but i really don't wanna try something new.. My boss will kill me 
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: so who was selling a bundle of cmud scripts for tps/
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: what kinda scripts?
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Squeeky Kroz Tech: does anyone use MS Agent in zmud? i'm having problems with some commands
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Squeeky Kroz Tech: guess not
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kazuma whistles appreciatively.
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Regexp question:  Assume I have a function f(x,y) that does a non-case sensitive regexp match and returns 0 or 1 if the string x does not or does match regexp y. I need to match the letters mps in any order, but only once for each letter. I have ^[mps]{3}$ which does that, minus the "only once for each letter".
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: what is the use for this?
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Does it matter? :P
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: sure
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: what's the point in doing something for which there is no use
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: That's called homework
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I guarantee you that the amount of time it'd take to explain it would far outpace how interesting it is. ;)
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it matters in that there may be a better alternative than specifically what's being asked
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: then just permuate the letters mps in all ways, concat them together into a disjunction and you are done
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but oby's usually pretty clear on what he really wants
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: My alternative is checking the user input specifically against mps, msp, pms, psm, etc. individually, but doing it with a regexp is cleaner.
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I'm working on code to do chargen for the White Wolf storyteller games.
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: is it 3-letter combos, or do you wish it to be extendable to arbitrarily long sequences?
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: or dont do with a regexp -- you can implement it with three comparisions over a hash
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: You have three types of attributes, Mental, Physical, and Social.
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: That's called homework
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: During chargen you get 5 points for the category you choose as primary, 4 for secondary, 3 for tertiary.
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: sure, it's homework, but is this way of doing research any less valid than anything else
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Actually it's not homework, which anyone who knows me could tell you, but I understand that's less interesting than making snide comments. ;)
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: Oby, did you see my Q?
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: well, you've been given two solutions
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: So the idea is that mps, psm, etc., are valid inputs, but mmm isn't.
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Nah, the idea is just a regexp that'll match those three letters in any order, but only once for each letter.
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Doesn't have to be complicated, I just fail at regexps. :)
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not that many permutations, just match for them as branches
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: then permuate the strings and concat them
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Yeah, but that's ugly. :(
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't think regexp is capable in any less-ugly fashion
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: then do what I suggested -- use a hash
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: Oby - in that situation, I'd recommend a simple array - add 1 to the appropriate element based on the letter. If the entry already has a 1, the letter was repeated
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: the ugly solution is one that takes you so much longer to think of than the simple one
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: That's far outside the scope of the programming tools I have to do this with, unfortunately, but if that's the simplest answer then it's pretty clearly not going to be easily doable in regexp.
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (mps|msp|pms|psm|smp|spm) call it a day
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: that you will never recoup the time, even if you run it for ever
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Obyron nods at you in agreement. 
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: Abelinc - that's nice, but what if you're to extend that to 7 letter combos tomorrow?
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I'm not the only person who'll be running it, and since I'm doing this project for fun, I really don't care about the time.
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: timeghost, extending it to arbitrary letter combinations doesn't change regexp's capabilities
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: If I were getting paid, I'd care.
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: then check each character to see it occurs in your target set, then remove the matched char from the target set
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: if it's just "which letter comes before the other one", an array of weights will do fine - and be extendable
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: runs in linear time, by constant time for the hash lookup, and another for the removal
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: That doesn't help me, because you don't understand the language I have to do this in, which is why I didn't want to get too deep into why I actually need it, because, while I'm liberal with my free time, I don't have enough to teach people how to use TinyMUX softcode. ;)
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: AND allow to trace repeats - if an entry isn't zero by the time you encounter a letter, it was encountered before
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Suffice it to say that just matching the options looks to be the fastest way, and I only need to do it twice. :) Thanks!
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sumalt Tech: do some goofy stuff like assign each letter a number p 1 m 2 s 3, then check the length = 3 and the sum = 6
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sumalt Tech: but with better numbers
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sumalt Tech: because mmm would still equal 6 :p
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Here's the code to finger another player, just as an example of what I'm dealing with.
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: $+finger *:[setq(0,switch([type(num(%0))],PLAYER,[num(*%0)],[switch([type(num(*%0))],PLAYER,[Num(*%0)],[locate(%#,%0,mp)])]))][setq(9,and(not(and(hasflag(%q0,Dark),not(IsStaff(%#)))),switch(member(lwho(),%q0),0,0,1)))][setq(8,idle(%q0))]; @switch %q0= #-1,@pemit %#=That is not a player.,#-2,@pemit %#=There is more than one %0.,{@pemit %#=[center(---<@%B%B[name(%q0)[switch(isstaff(%#),0,,(%q0) [flags(%q0)])]]%B%B@>---,78,=)]%r[ljust(Alias:%B%B[switch(hasattr(%q0,alias),1,[u(%q0/Alias)],)]%B[switch(hasflag(%q0,Wizard),0,switch(hasflag(%q0,Immortal),0,switch(hasflag(%q0,Builder),0,,(Builder)),(Immortal)),(Wizard))],39)]|[ljust([switch(%q9,0,Last on: [get(%q0/last)],1,On for: [u(v(db)/secs2hrs,conn(%q0))][space(10)]Idle: [u(v(db)/secs2hrs,%q8)])],38)]%R[ljust(Sex: %B%B%B[switch(strlen(get(%q0/sex)),0,None Set,get(%q0/sex))],39)]|[ljust(Mail:%B%B[extract(mail(%q0),2,1)] unread / [extract(mail(%q0),1,1)] total.,38)]%R[ljust([switch(hasattr(%q0,email),1,E-Mail:%B[get(%q0/email)],E-Mail:%B(unlisted))],39)
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Bah, it cut off, but you get the idea. ;)
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You fall to the floor laughing at Obyron's remark.
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: ]|[ljust(,38)]%R[u(v(db)/footer)]%R[switch(findable(%#,%q0),1,Location:[space(7)][name(loc(%q0))],[switch(isstaff(%#),1,Location:[space(7)][name(loc(%q0))] (unfindable),Location:[space(7)](unfindable))])][setq(7,[u(v(db)/finger_list)])][iter(%q7,{[switch(1,hasattr(%q0,##),{%r[ljust([index([u(v(db)/finger_list_long)],|,[member(%q7,##,|)],1)]:,16)][u(%q0/##)]})]},|)][iter(lattr(%q0/finger*),%r[ljust(capstr(lcstr(edit(edit(##,FINGER_,),FINGER-,))):,15)]%t[u(%q0/##)])]; @pemit %#=[switch(hasflag(%#,wizard),0,,[repeat(-,78)]%RRegistration:%t%t[get(%q0/registration)]%rLast online from:%t[get(%q0/lastsite)]%r[switch(%q9,0,,Currently online from:%t[get(%q0/lastsite)]%r)])][u(v(db)/footer)];@switch hasflag(%#,DARK)=1,{},{@verb %q0=%#,,,,,afinger,{moniker(%#),%#}}}
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: what the hell is that?
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: There's the rest, in case you were curious. ;)
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, that's why he just asked for regexp solutions ;-)
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Obyron nods at you in agreement. 
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd basically have to do backreference conditionals...
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: The whole thing is list-based, sequential, interpreted in real time every time it's run.
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: ie: u(v(db)/footer) looks up the "DB" attribute on the current object, then checks that object for an attribute called footer...
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: It makes me pine for luaprogs, but I guess that's what I get for having hobbies. :)
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: For the record, I found a novel solution to my problem. Alpha sort the input and see if it matches mps.
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: match(sort(  ,,,|),m|p|s) :)
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: match(sort(%0 %1 %2,,,|),m|p|s) :)
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: anyone know of any good scripts for cmud?
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: i just had to move to windows for work... never used cmud before
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: anyone have any scripts or anything like that to make CMud any better? new to windows... any help would be appreciated
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: try the aardwolf mushclient, it comes with some plugins
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: i tried to download it... but it won't run after installed... i get a "program terminated" error every time
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're set on cmud, then go to davos.aardcharn.com
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: no not set... just thats what most ppl use for windows right?
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: really?
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cmud is one of the least-used of the "usual" clients
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: what would you suggest then?
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd try figuring out why the MUSHclient from the aard site isn't working
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: any windows pros on here?
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: top-down order of most usage, I'd guess zmud, MUSHclient, tinyfugue, tintin++, then cmud...but the last 3 can really be any order
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: the website said that cmud was the supported app... can you still get zmud?
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: buying zmud gives you both zmud and cmud rights
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: running zmud means that you'll have access to a whole lot more scripts for Aard than cmud has available yet
T1/r6/2009-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: ahh
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toker Tech: anyone know why my command window in muchclient disappears whenever i git enter?
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: like the command disappears, or the comand line disappears?
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toker Tech: the command line does
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toker Tech: it used to not do it but i must have hit something
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: heh, that's special.
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: sounds like some script is removing the command line, but I don't remember which function does that.
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: search your world file and all plugins for "SetCommandSeclection" and "SetCommandWindowHeight"
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: oops, just the second one should be needed.
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GQ Bully Zibest Tech: hi, does anyone know how to add current page to bookmarks in google chrome?
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not as simple as bookmarks/favorites menu, add bookmark?
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GQ Bully Zibest Tech: i see only 2 menus there: control page and control chrome. none of them has "add bookmark" items
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apathetic Tech: try ctrl+d
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GQ Bully Zibest Tech: i could bring up bookmark manager, but it only offers me to import bookmark
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GQ Bully Zibest Tech: cool thanks!
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apathetic Tech: np
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GQ Bully Zibest Tech: i should use google mail more, as i didn't figure i should click on "star" icon to open bookmark menu
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: How would i make a dummy world for Mush?
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: file -> new world
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: it wont let me leave a blank ip
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 0.0.0.0
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: easiest answer is to look at EVERY window you have open other than the main MUD one...they're all dummy worlds
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bring one to the front, then look at its world properties
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: anyone know anything about dvd recorders for your tv?
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: noone?
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what's there to know? it's pretty much a VCR that doesn't use tape...
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i'm in the market for one and i don't know jack about them
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i see some with a tuner, without a tuner etc
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: where will it be getting its input? does that device have a tuner?
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: if it works like a vcr, then no, the cable will come into the recorder, then out to the tv
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: more importantly, can we program the clock?
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you need to look at the "path" that a signal will be taking...make sure that every device the signal goes through shares an input/output with the next one in the chain
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grentree Tech: So is there a way to keep chat from going in my combat window and my chat window at the same time?
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santeria Tech: get aim
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: grentree, type "chats echo off"
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grentree Tech: I just installed the aardwolf mushclient
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: cable into the house, into the dvr, and then into the tv
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grentree Tech: Oh nice
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: are there some that record to a hard drive instead of dvd-r?
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: are there some that record to a hard drive instead of dvd-r?
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's what a DVR is (tivo)...record to hard drive
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: like a tivo or dvr that I don't have to pay a monthly subscription for?
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santeria Tech: well the whole thing is kinda a service so you need to payfor it
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the subscription is pretty much just for its program guide
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: otherwise, it wouldn't know when you say "I want to record every episode of Burn Notice"
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: basically i want to be able to say every sunday from 9-10pm record channel 38, per se
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: and not use a ton of disks in the process
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you've got decent drive space in your PC, you can also use your computer as a DVR
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i don't have video input on here
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can buy USB units for that for under 100 bucks
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i'll look into that.. i got a second computer i don't use much i can set up for that
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: what are they called?
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grentree Tech: how can I get all the extra spaces out of my screen?
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they can be listed as TV tuner or as DVR
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: sweet. thanks for all the info. have you thought about writing an encyclopedia? i haven't asked a question yet you can't answer.. lol
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I dabble in lots of areas
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not quite sure what you mean grentree? you mean blank lines in your main window, or do you mean the arrangement of the windows themselves?
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grentree Tech: I mean the extra spacing in my main window
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grentree Tech: And if at all possible I'd like to stope seeing everyone elses equip/unequip
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: grentree, type "compact" to see if that makes it behave more like you expect
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you won't be able to stop seeing people equip/unequip without gagging it yourself
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grentree Tech: Compact is much better
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grentree Tech: super lame that im forced to see everyone elses minute actions tho
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grentree Tech: how can I disable world map window? everytime i close out of it, i take one step, it pops back up
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "bigmap auto off"
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grentree Tech: is it normal for "compact" mode to screw up all the room desc
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: perhaps request another config option on ideasforum:  eqspam -- see others equip/unequip
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, doesn't change room descriptions
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grentree Tech: ahh had my window to narrow
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Braneslyce Tech: How can i get text to stop duplicating in main window alown with chat window?
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: which client?
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Braneslyce Tech: mushclient
T1/r6/2009-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there's a command for that. I forget what it is
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but you should look in the text file of the chat capture plugin to see if there are any aliases
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: chats echo off
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there we go
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Braneslyce Tech: righteous thanks
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's mentioned on the web page for plugins, along with some other helpful commands
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/play/plugins.htm and http://www.aardwolf.com/play/clientfaq.htm are great resources :-)
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: anyone do vid editing at all?
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I almost said yes.  Then realized you weren't talking about editing with vi.
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: moreso Premiere cs4 or FCS
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apathetic Tech: haha balaam
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Anyone know if zMUD has hook triggers on events?
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: (Such as connect, reconnect, etc.)
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: atconnect and atdisconnect.. just name your triggers as such
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Sweet, thanks Einstein.
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: sorry name ur aliases as the above
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: whoa - what happened to astalavista.net
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: It was hacked.
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: HAH
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: irony
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Seriously, too. :p
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: i believe it, because well there is no login anymore
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: http://pastebin.com/f751e9f5b
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: that is hilarious
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: but sad
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: wonder what will be next
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: cursory glance.. what, astalavista got hacked?
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: #
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: [~] Paulo M. Santos AKA Be1er0ph0r needs to be shot down for his milw0rm ripping script(s)#      ...and the others, find another area to get paid from, security isn't for sale and you obviously fail at it.#
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: thats awesome
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: sorry ill shut up now, but thanks R
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: If you had an account there, I think they were storing passwords as plaintext in at least one database... fyi. :)
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: People still use astalavista?
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I never did-- but it's funny :p
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what was astaLaVista selling 
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: access to their forums
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: i use it, of course with a simple javascript injection you could get lifetime access for a penny
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: way back when
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: then they corrected that issue, but accounts stayed active
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: but yes I used it :)
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: ok im late for bed
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: later all
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: anyone here knows how to get zmud to do floating point operations? when i do #math test 1/2 i get a value of 0 for test..
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: in many languages, if you only give it integers, it'll do integer division. Maybe 1.0/2.0 or 1//2? I've seen both of those in different programming languages. Haven't tried in Zmud though.
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: you might try #math test 1.0/2 ... it works on tt++ where #math test 1/2 gives 0
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: o i found the solution thanks.. had to convert the values to floating point values with %float
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: anyone knows how i can set up triggers to count every round, such that i do an attack skill every round for example
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: 6 mouths, mwau
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: er, mis
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: you dont einstein
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: that would be classed as a bot
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: and get you nuked
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: oh ? its just saving my fingers lol
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: so's my auto-quest bot, but don't tell the imms
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: aww ok haha
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: really? i thought its only a bot if you dont start the fight yourself
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: if it doesn't initiate the fight, it's a very dark grey area
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: But enough about your breath
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: .. crap. mischan 
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea, but what if you grouped with someone and suddenly idled?
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thurgood Tech: Whose breath is initiating fights? Need a tic-tac?
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Foresteer is obfuscating - does not want you to code scripts that compete with his gquest scripts
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: tictac, was meant for gclan
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: he just have to turn if off when grouped
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: anyone that uses an autocaster during a gquest doesnt know how to gquest
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: I would HIGHLY recommend NOT having any script auto-cast attack spells.
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: and why not?
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: keep the cue open?
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: cause he said so, and when Xantcha speaks, you listen
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: Because most imms would jail you for it, trust me... I helped teach half of them
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: would be too easy for it to turn into a bot :P
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's only useful if you're botting
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i dont think we need ANOTHER abelinc *chuckles*
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I need to get my wii controller set up to mud again
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: haha ok thx..good point brought up guys.. better not toe the line 
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: it would be if you cant respond because of your "bot"
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: was commenting on "Forestseer Tech: if it *doesn't* initiate the fight, it's a *very dark grey area*" -- anybody that wins hundreds of gquests looks odd talking of "gray areas"
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: Oh, because noone could possibly win gquests based on his or her own merits but always by botting?
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xantcha chuckles politely.
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <sarcasm> Forestseer is agreeing with that Dispel Majic person again...
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Can't we all just get along?
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir waves a large bright red sign reading "NO !!"
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: can't its no fun
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: Trust me, it's completely possible to win plenty of GQs without any bot
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: anybody that does a gquest in less that two minutes is using (legal) scripts, not on nonscripted "merit"
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: possible, ya, but lets be honest Xan
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: No-one does!
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i don't have a bot, i have a cyborg
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: what does that have to do with the quantity of gquests?
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: I've won plenty and I don't use mobwalks or scripts
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: a database of mob locations and mob walks is not illegal is it
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: people win gq's on telnet. shh
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: its not
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: until they added continents I didn't use speedwalks either, just typed run and the area directions
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: i went 9/11 vs slay on telnet once
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: before continents
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: having a cyborg brain is a grey area too though
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: I feel a bit outdated on GQs anymore unfortunately, I haven't run one in 4 years or so
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <sarcasm> Forestseer is agreeing with that Xantcha person again...
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: i dont think i could pull < 4 min low level, 10 minute mid range atm
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: even if i re-installed my maps
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: seems to me there should be a tag for rounds though.. as there's tags for maps and everything else
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: i won a gquest today in 11 ticks because those 4 tick qquestors were elsewhere - and i use zmud alias speedwalks (no triggers)
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: Einstein, bprompt usually suffices
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: it's relatively simple ways to track rounds
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: bpromt
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: if you know what damage your weapons do
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: and have a bprompt
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: weapon is a hassle, there is disarmed and changing
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: so handle disarmed and changing damtypes
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: id rather handle bprompts
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: you get multiple bprompts per round
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: one after every channel talk
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: one after your spell round
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: Just keep in mind bprompt will show multiple times per round if you cast
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: bots don't use channels
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: you can multicast
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: so you can have 2 spell bprompts before next weapon round
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: ignoring channels
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: eh?
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you can just use the mob health status
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: ^\[([0-9]*?)\] Your(.*?)$ this is what ive been using
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: just use macros instead of triggering it. so much simpler and clearly legal
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: yup gentoo that is what im currently doing.. damage 1, and sth like the trigger ur using
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: im using it to check something though... not killing hehe
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: yea check hp and quaff if needed?
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: yes among other things
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grentree Tech: HOw do i disengage chat from my main window, and turn off world map?
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: If you're using MUSH client, you can do chats echo off for the chats, and go to Plugins and disable the BigMap plugin.
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: That is, if you're using the Aard MUSH client.
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: While you're at it, take a look at 'help mushclient' :)
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grentree Tech: how can i keep my alias and triggers toon specific?
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grentree Tech: I take that as a negative
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I know how to do it in CMUD/zMUD, but not MUSH. You'll probably have to create different sessions. *shrug*
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grentree Tech: what do you mean different sessions, like different save files to open for each toon?
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Well, I mean different worlds, so to speak. 
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: But, I don't know much about MUSH. Someone else here should be able to help you.
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grentree Tech: how come at every world save i get a message saying "path to <save location> denied"?
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're using vista
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods at you in agreement. 
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grentree Tech: it was not doing that yesterday
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 3 options...(1) turn off UAC, (2) run MUSH as admin, (3) install MUSH somewhere other than program files
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: Anyone ever used Kildclient and know what default escape character is?
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: or even what it is likely to be?
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kazuma Tech: \
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kazuma Tech: not positive but very likely
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: thanks but I tried it already
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kazuma Tech: try %
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: sigh, nope =/
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kazuma Tech: hrmmm
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: I can't see it in preferences anywhere
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: curious... i noticed a small difference between using a digital coaxial audio connectors vs the plain ol' red/white rca audio connectors... did i imagine the difference, or is there actually one?
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: the biggest help was that the coaxial connection sends a signal to my surround sound speakers, and the red/white didn't... but i was hoping someone here might be "in to" this kind of stuff and would be able to tell me if i'm imagining things or if the 12 bucks i spent was a good idea
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: google's not really telling me anything, unfortunately
T1/r6/2009-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: well, the plain red/white rca is just left and right
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Huh. If you open up firefox and type "about:robots" in the address bar, its mildly amusing.
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: They forgot a few of Azimov's laws.
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: the clicky button is cute.
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Still eastereggs always amuse me
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: chrome://browser/content/browser.xul <--- also interesting
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZrr7AZ9nCY <---- Microsoft surface video for the lulz
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: this should be easy. in ubuntu how do I change the name of the computer?
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Anyone know why this wont compile? It is saying my divion is an unexpected symbol..   local wishtime = math.floor (.. twowish .. / average)
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: @Qaverage*
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Ok...so nobody knows
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: why the .. both before and after twowish?
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: .. is catenation operator dk
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: i have a local that is used called 'twowish'
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: local twowish = math.floor (extwish - %1)  /n  local wishtime = math.floor (.. twowish .. / average)
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: bah
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: local twowish = math.floor (@nextwish - %1)  /n  local wishtime = math.floor (.. twowish .. / @Qaverage)
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: remove the ..
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: definately don't need the .. on either side
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: thanks, that fixed it
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: basically .. is used to append the value of your local variable to a string
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: like  world.Note("wish time is " .. wishtime)
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: In a regex pattern, how can I account for a - in a range? Say I wanted to check race names. I can do [A-Za-z ] easily, but how do I capture something like Half-griffon in that range?
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arc Tech: escape it with \-
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arc Tech: or put in front/back should work
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Tried both, didn't work.
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arc Tech: really?? what are you using?
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: pcre78. ;)
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus sits down and thinks deeply. 
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arc goes, "Hmmmm."
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Oh wait. Got it, I think.
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus boggles at the concept.
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arc Tech: what was it?
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: What I tried before and didn't work mysteriously works now... 
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arc Tech: nice :p
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Putting it at the end. :p
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Thanks, Arc. :)
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arc Tech: you got it on your own :p but np
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Yeah, but without you assisting me, I would have been trying to use alternative things again.
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwarehan Tech: Can someone please give me the link or tell me where I might be able to find the maps that are available for xl?
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: xl?
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwarehan Tech: I meant excel sorry.
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enduro Tech: Is it normal that an integrated sound card burn?
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not normal for anything to burn...
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enduro Tech: It just happened to me a few days ago and I fail to understand how only that part of my MB burnt
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: of course not
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the how's pretty easy...likely something shorted across it
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enduro Tech: well, I mean by burnt = not working well
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not working well is another thing entirely
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enduro Tech: oh
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enduro Tech: it had this static sound
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Does Lua use ? as an equivaent of * for only one character, or something else?
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: [] is the character class for lua
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: ? is 0 or 1 character, * is any number, including 0
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: [a]*? matches a only ,  but a*? works too
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: e.g. ba*d will match on baaaaad, but ba?d won't.
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: I knew that was how it was in alot of programs, i was just wondering if Lua folloed suite, thanks
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: are you talking Regexp, or a separate Lua matching syntax?
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: lua uses Perl Compatible Regular expression
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: It's a seperate Lua matching system, but it's very similar to regezp
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: in that case, . matches any single character
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GentooX nods at Xantcha.
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei nods.
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what ? means would depend on where it's used...using *? is the non-greedy designation of * for pcre
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xantcha seems to think you have the right idea.
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: - is the nongreedy version of * in lua, I think.
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GentooX nods at you in agreement. 
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Though I suppose it might be equivalent to that.
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: Regex is easy until you get to lookbehinds/lookaheads, IMO
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Non-greedy, what do you mena?
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: mean*
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: non-greedy means that it will use the smallest-possible number of (the thing before the *) which still matches
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: By default, regular expressions will match as much as they possibly can, left-to-right... non-greedy modifiers will have it match as little as possible instead
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: L33tM4st3r Lashan nods at Xantcha.
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you're matching on bbbaaad for example, b(.*)d will capture bbaaa, while b(.-)d will capture a
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: er, aaa
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: for the second one
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: so for h*, hi will override hello?
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: i.e. given "baaaaaaaad",  ba*  wil match "baaaaaaaad" (greedy) whereas ba*? will only match "b"
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: h* matches nothing except h, hh, hhh, hhhhhhhhhhhh etc
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it doesn't match hi or hello
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: Darkknowing, what are you trying to match?  might be easier to help with some idea what you want it to do, rather than explanations of regular expression implementations
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: I think we are speaking about seperate things then. I was speaking of using * as a wildcard...
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: Then use .
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Ok.
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: h.*  will match hi or hello
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: so . is a single character wildcard?
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Yes
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik nods at Darkknowing.
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xantcha nods.
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Ok, thanks guys
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for regexp matching, yes
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: By standard definition it will match any character other than a newline, without special flags
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrakPuppet Kongol Tech: how do you get the mini map to display like it normally does when using the aardwolf client
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: Anyone know some good software for making movies using animation from pics and paint drawings?
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Icernicus Tech: how do i set up macros on MUSH Client? i'm completely new to this game
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: click on Game -> Configure -> Macros
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Icernicus Tech: thanks
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Icernicus Tech: i'll have to play around w/ it...haven't played MUDs in a long time
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stalion Tech: Using mushclient, is there a way to trigger a sound/beep when a certain channel has action
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Yes! Use the PlaySound function in your script.
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Let me check to make sure that's a real function though-- hang on.
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Oh, it is! Here is the doc: http://www.mushclient.com/scripts/doc.php?function=PlaySound
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: You don't HAVE to use a script to make it happen though.
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: You can create a trigger, and in the trigger dialog, there is a sound section where you can browse for a song file that will be played when the trigger is matched.
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stalion Tech: that help file is kinda out of my league. I really just want a small ding/beep to go off when I have action in my ftalk
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Interesting there is also a Sound function in addition to that PlaySound function..
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: then just enable the sound in the trigger dialogue
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Oh. Well, in that case, just take my second suggestion (what Balaam just reiterated.)
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Sound will just play a sound.  PlaySound will use DirectSound, which means you can have up to 10 channels overlapping.
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I see!
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: and with PlaySound you can set it to loop, change the volume, etc.
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I wonder if one could make an audio player (complete with playlists, etc.) as a MUSHclient plugin..
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stalion Tech: seems a lil complicated for me :/ i was hoping it would be simple
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stalion Tech: lol like a worlds smallest violin to cue when you die?
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: It is simple, Stalion, just ignore 90% of what I've been saying :p
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Stalion, have you created a trigger before?
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: You could, but PlaySound only recognizes 16-bit uncompressed WAV files.
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Yep, Rathik had the quick and easy solution.
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stalion Tech: I have triggers set for stuff like when a spell fails, to recast it
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: a whole button to click!
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Are you Nick's Aardwolf character??
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: who are you asking that to, Rathik?
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: So Stalion, create a trigger to match on what you want to play the sound, and in the dialog for that trigger, you should see a sound section, correct?
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stalion Tech: My triggers are real simple..like when a buff wears off, i auto rebuff
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: You, Balaam. :p You know a lot!
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: No, I'm too much of a jerk to be Nick :)  I am 9th on the list of forum posters, though
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stalion Tech: Im real new to muds, and real new to the progam mushclient. So i just have a couple alias/triggers. Im willin to learn how to do the other stuff for the sounds tho
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: if you could make a trigger, then you should be able to see the "sound" section in the lower right-hand corner of the trigger editing dialogue.  Use that, like Rathik suggested.
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: well, lower right-hand corner on the current version of 4.40.  I think it used to be higher in the window.
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stalion Tech: I see the box, but i dont know the syntax to make it beep when I recieve a tell message or ftalk 
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: No syntax is required
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Just click the browse button, then find the sound you want. Windows sounds are stored in a directory... but which directory depends on which OS.
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stalion Tech: Ahh wichever windown im currently clicked on has separate triggers
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stalion Tech: Hrm, my triggers are working, and i have sound enabled..but i hear nothing
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: do you hear anything when you click on the "test" button?
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stalion Tech: Ahh I think i got it :)
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: And do you have "Enable trigger sounds" checked in the main trigger list window?
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I turned that off once, and it took days to figure that out.  Kept skipping over it.
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stalion Tech: I have Vista...so a headache in its own
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stalion Tech: had to go into properties and run as admin just so muchclient would stop being kwirky
T1/r6/2009-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain Flygo Tech: oh vista :(
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stalion Tech: I have ventrillo so i have plenty of sounds to choose from, thanks guys :)
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stalion Tech: OK the sounds only play if window is minimized : /
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stalion Tech: Or apparently when I talk it plays a sound, but no sound plays when others talk
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Conclusion: you only talk when you minimize your screen? :p
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stalion Tech: ok its woking now, apparently i cant just click to a different windown..the window I go into has to have an action THEN the other ones trigger sounds correctly
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stalion Tech: Ok next question. Can I set my main window to only play sounds when my current list of triggers actually Trigger...not any action in the window
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I don't think I follow.
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stalion Tech: As in right now the only triggers I have set are auto recasts when i debuff. I ONLY want to hear a sound play when my triggers rebuff me
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you should have a sound as part of the action for the particular triggers you want, not for any trigger
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wow, that'll get spammy
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stalion Tech: Well right now, its all for one. My triggers are not making the sounds occur, any action in that window is making the sound happen
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stalion Tech: nah only a slight Ding about every 5 min or more
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as a SC ranger...
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: When the last a long time, try lower levels were the all wear off in a few minutes and not at the same time
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as a remort with actual spellcasting classes, you won't like the results
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stalion Tech: well i can always change it heh
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but in the individual triggers, there is a section on what sound you want it to use...that's what you should be using...any triggers you want to have no sound, click no sound
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: anyone has a quick tell capture script for zmud?
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: finger kazuma
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: thanks :D
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: can someone send me a tell please?
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: thanks got it
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Does a flac file need to be converted to mp3 before you're able to put it onto an mp3 player?
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Depends, does the mp3 player support flac files?
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: I suppose it would help if I checked.
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: If its an ipod? it doesnt
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: the quickest way to find out would be to put there and try would it not ?
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I believe Archos line is the only ones that are likely to play it without special firmware
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: You'd probably want to convert it regardless. Flacs are huge.
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Oh.. ouch.. around 20 mb per song.
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: PaperTiger Panzer gapes in astonishment.
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: True! But if you have an omg hueg mp3 player with a slightly less then hueg collection, the size wont matter much
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: I've just got a little 16 gb sansa =P
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: What do you guys use to backup your home directory in Ubuntu?
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: - 1
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: sorry bah
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: oh dear
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: time to throw toys out of pram and scream for the manager again, it seems
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: Acer trying to reneg on their warranties again, tut tut
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: all I have to say is:  "haha, you have an Acer."
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: not mine, i don't care
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: did Acer botch a production run
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: dunno, just another "the power socket has broken, therefore it MUST be user damage"
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Proof:  There is damage, there is a user.
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: that's not proof
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: cheap brittle components in the socket
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nogs, xyliz, cheap and stupidly designed - mounted directly on the motherboard
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: only seen two laptops where it's sensibly designed - a single advent model, and an oldish toshiba equium
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: ooo.  Not even easily replacable.  Brilliant.
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the 120 AC directly onto the mainboard ?
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: where the socket has a flylead that plugs into the board, socket replacement is about $15 and is easily done
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and Macs, with their magnetic power cords ;-)
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: no, 19v dc transformer
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: few macs have those, abe
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for "few" being defined as every model made for the last few years, yeah, few have those
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: last 2 years maybe
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Daddy Milquetoast Tech: haha A hummingbird chants the phrase 'dos'. You feel momentarily lethargic, but recover quickly.
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Daddy Milquetoast Tech: DOS was horribly slow so it's true!
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murn Tech: Opening the "How well do you know me" app on facebook crashes my computer. Anyone else experiences this? Any suggestions as to what might be the cause?
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Crashes your computer or your internet browser?
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murn Tech: Computer.
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: is there a way of getting text in html to overflow from one div or table data element to another?
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kazuma Tech: so i lose the free rebuilds then?
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Watlok Tech: got some questions about 3 moons scripts for zmud, anyone have a min?
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomilius Tech: If I've been using aard's MUSHclient, and I have to use another client for some reason.. how do I turn off all the extra data that's output?
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: ... It's just slipped my mind at the moment, Tomilius.
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BestOfBest Madcatz Tech: tags off
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I thought it might be that, Madcatz, but isn't the junk still output if the tags are off?
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I'm just curious, because I've only used Aardmush like once.
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BestOfBest Madcatz Tech: The statmon stuff?  I think that goes away to with 'tags off'
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomilius Tech: Thanks!
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BestOfBest Madcatz Tech: Tags just surround certain things, like channels, or the map.  Having the tags on/off doesn't affect whether you have those certain things on/off
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Anyone know a reason why the my internet browsers will not play sound, but any other application will?
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: vista?
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Anyone who help me setup my double monitors?
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: anyone with zmud want to test something for me?
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Shouldn't you know that one? :D
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik stares at the sky.
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: whatcha need?
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: Where can I get the spellup plugin? Is there a version 4.4whatever of aardmush?
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=8780
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: sorry thank you i was afk
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: ohh
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: ive tried to do this before. I couldn't get it to download.
T1/r6/2009-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: Is anyone able to help me mess around with the AFK plugin for MUSH?
T1/r6/2009-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: in my .profile, is the proper way to export a PKG_PATH variable, to use  export PKG_PATH=whatever.com/wherever/xxx/foo/bar     ? or to simply declare it as PKG_PATH=whatever.com/wherever/xxx/foo/bar/   ?
T1/r6/2009-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: export
T1/r6/2009-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akos Tech: hello
T1/r6/2009-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akos Tech: any one able to answer a question about Mushclient please
T1/r6/2009-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: best to just ask the question... it'll usually get answered
T1/r6/2009-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akos Tech: Hey folks, can someone please tell me the adress and port of Aardwolf please
T1/r6/2009-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: help ip
T1/r6/2009-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: help ip :-)
T1/r6/2009-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akos Tech: thankyou
T1/r6/2009-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it should also be listed on the page where you got here
T1/r6/2009-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: any of the zmud moonscripts work flawlessly with cmud?
T1/r6/2009-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Uhrm Tech: Hi, I have a question about the AArdwolf-MUSH client
T1/r6/2009-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Uhrm Tech: is there an option that allows the text I just typed in the chat box, to stay after I pressed 'enter' ?
T1/r6/2009-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Uhrm Tech: someone uses the Aardwolf-MUSH client ?
T1/r6/2009-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: any reason why saitek glowy keyboards have a NIC socket in the back of them?
T1/r6/2009-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: Hi, I think I deleted status.mcl for my mush client, I need this plugin to get my exp-tracker working, does anyone know where I can find the file status.mcl? it was located in c:\program files\mushclient\worlds\aardwolf
T1/r6/2009-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: I'm having trouble loading the stats_detector.xml plugin, says. Line   18: Plugin "id" field must be unique for this world (problem in this file)
T1/r6/2009-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Little Alhena Tech: anyone knows how to delete a gvar in zmud ?
T1/r6/2009-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: Does anyone know if there is a plug-in for MUSHclient which will display the full scorecard?
T1/r6/2009-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mad Hermit Starky Tech: you mean like the score sheet?
T1/r6/2009-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mad Hermit Starky Tech: typing score?
T1/r6/2009-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: Yes.
T1/r6/2009-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mad Hermit Starky Tech: more than just stat monitor? because that covers almost all of it except like weight and items
T1/r6/2009-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: Yea. Something that could include resistances and weight, etc
T1/r6/2009-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Anyone know why windows media player would show some song titles as "TP1"?
T1/r6/2009-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: totally unhelpful, but why would anyone use it in the first place?
T1/r6/2009-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Because when I double click an mp3, it plays the mp3...
T1/r6/2009-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: That's a pretty good reason to use it.
T1/r6/2009-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: its bloated
T1/r6/2009-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: for an mp3 player
T1/r6/2009-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Both songs that have the title TP1 are the only 4 letter song titles, if that helps..
T1/r6/2009-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: have you checked the tags?
T1/r6/2009-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: try checking the tags
T1/r6/2009-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Yeah, they're fine
T1/r6/2009-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: tags!
T1/r6/2009-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik blinks innocently.
T1/r6/2009-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: oh what dagnir said
T1/r6/2009-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: id3v1 and id3v2
T1/r6/2009-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: well, then wmp isn't compatible with tagging
T1/r6/2009-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: he said mp3 though
T1/r6/2009-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: even itunes is worth more than wmp
T1/r6/2009-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Oh, apparently they aren't fine
T1/r6/2009-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: I fixed them all with media monkey last night, apparently didn't fix those two
T1/r6/2009-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GQ Bully Zibest Tech: hi, does anyone know how to make google chrome stop displaying message "An additional plug-in is required to display some elements on this page"? It wants to install flash player plugin, and i don't want to install it
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tslacker Tsarikos Tech: any mac users here using tinyfugue?
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir points at you.  How rude! 
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Not a Mac user, but BSD is close enough, and for everything tf, there's Abelinc :P
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tslacker Tsarikos Tech: hmm. because i downloaded it and it unpacked automatically on my mac
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tslacker Tsarikos Tech: but i don't know how to configure it
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tslacker Tsarikos Tech: and i can't find it installed anywhere
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tslacker Tsarikos Tech: no ideas? :\
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: $tf
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: at least that works on linux
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: so what's windows 7 like?
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tslacker Tsarikos Tech: yeah i downloaded it, but i don't know how to configure it
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Windows 7 is like one more than Windows 6, man.
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You stare at Iron Duck Chuft as he screams something about a MOOSE to Blessed Balaam.
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I actually kind of like Windows 7.  Runs on my Eee-PC decently well.
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaradcel Tech: Is anyone using Mushclient? Need a question answered please
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: whats the question?
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: the answer is 'rutabegas.'  Have fun figuring out the question :)
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaradcel Tech: When I d'led the modded mushclient off aardwolf's site it's err ver 4.33 but some of these plugins I'm finding only work with 4.34 and above. If I just install the new ver of MUSH and copy over the stuff from the current directory it should be ok right?
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GentooX is agreeing with that Blessed Balaam person again...
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaradcel Tech: and I've been told the answer was "potatos" Balaam :P
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: yes, that's the way that I do it
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Potayto, potahto.
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: yup its alright
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaradcel Tech: aighties. thanks for that. =)
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaradcel Tech: now time to test the theory =P if something bad happens, I'm coming back here i awhile screaming =P
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: anyone here have an X200s laptop?
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: make sure to back up the MUSHclient/worlds directory just in case
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: that was fast
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaradcel Tech: hmmm looking fine so far
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaradcel Tech: yeah it was already d'led I just went and installed over the files in there
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: Jaradcel d/load 4.44 worked for me
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: Jaradcel d/load 4.33 worked for me
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaradcel Tech: i d'led 4.40 which was the most stable one out
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaradcel Tech: I needed to update in order to get some plugins to work =\
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akos Tech: hey folks, is there a web page I can visit that will help me set up Mushclient the same as the front page of the game web site shows
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "initaard", and it will set its windows up in a pattern/size that matches your screen
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: other than that, the MUSHclient you download from the aard site is already set up just like that screenshot
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akos Tech: Hey folks, I am using MUSHclient and am using the Aardint script which is giving me runtime errors. Is there a new file to be downloaded or do I have to edit it myself
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akos Tech: sorry, the Aardinit script
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: i dont know where to ask this but, if i take 10 cards and 2 or more of them must be aces then to get chance, is it c(2, 4) * c(8, 50) / c(10, 52), where c(m, n) = n! / (m!(n - m)!) ?
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: ummm that I dont know
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunsele Tech: is there a way to log the chat window and nothing else?
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Douhnin Tech: Would this be the place to discuss MCCP issues?
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nope, that's next door
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods at Tigernuts.
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: I came here to have an argument!
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Douhnin Tech: I'm wondering if there's a way to get it to work with mm2k6 (mudmaster)
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: *Yay!*  Go Tyebald!!!  Tigernuts cheers him on.
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: you can make it work with any client by setting up a local proxy
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: check out help mccp proxy
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: easiest way to get an argument is to say you like Vista Tyebald
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: but you knew that was coming :-)
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Douhnin Tech: I got it to run and everything, but it kept reporting a 10060 error.
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: i touch myself to vista
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Actually, that's not true, Myopic. :P
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Wyverex convulses as he shudders in disgust.
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: there is easier?
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: The easiest way to get into an argument is simply to disagree with the next person's idea.
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: no it's not
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's rubbish, charneus
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: That's not quite true
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Baloney, Tigernuts. I'm right, and you know it!
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: and he just proved it...
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Same to you, Gregor. :P
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Ivar)  Gregor Tech: ohhhhhhhh no you're not!
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: who didn't see that coming?
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: I agree with all of you.
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus snickers with Tigernuts about their shared secret.
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if you didn't, you're an idiot
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: still agreeing.
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: heh
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Douhnin Tech: nevermind, I got it to work. Apparently the links in that one helpfile contain outdated information.
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: but aren't you glad you asked?
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Douhnin Tech: I am!
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Douhnin Tech: thanks for the help(file)!
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jarenare Tech: Hi! Anybody knows if exists any kind of inventory-plugin for the aardwofl client?
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: is it possibly to get resultset co
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: is it possibly to get resultset count in sqlite?
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: guardian underdark.htm takes 25 to 28 seconds to load from harddisk using iExplorer on a Pentium3 Win98e -- something in that code is either cpu intensive or is waiting for something until timed-out -- trojan?
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I knew it!
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: The Gaardian site is only out there to give Aardwolf players trojans.
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: it's an xml database, and has much more info in it than it shows..
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: I usually get them at Walmart, myself.
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: the site gives 2nd hand ones
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Gaardian man! 
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: (guardian likely copied from some smartass wannabe-programmer sticking in unnecessary fancy code)?
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Well, in seriousness, I think the map is fully processed with JavaScript iirc, and considering that a P3 nor IE6 are that fast, I'm not that surprised.
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Rathik, how did you deduce ie6 and not ie7
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Win 98se
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: could be IE4
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: or IE5
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: could, but unlikely...
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: ie6 here -- does that mean ie7 won't work in win98se
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Probably not though-- they aren't so great with JS support.
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: is there a logical xor in lua?
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: No
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: thanks
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: ^(.*?) tells you (.*?)$  <<<< is the reply/tell regexp in PCRE format?
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: world.SetVariable("x",1) then world.GetVariable("x") == 1 does not return true, any ideas?
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: GetVariable always returns a string
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: oh thanks
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: why do i received this on a reply "{tell}Aescretia"  << im asking about the {tell} part 
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: tags tells off
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: tags tells on.
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: You have tags channels on
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: That's why.
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Sorry, tags tells :P
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: read help tags
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: do i have to turn it off/on on a script too?  because its working normally here
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Depending on the client, you can sub it out.
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baktosh Tech: Any of you know why I can't see yells and the speaker on music channel?  Oh, and the name of an item that has been sold, unless it has color codes in it.  Default mushclient setup, from the one provided/pointed to at the Aard site
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: or capture it and send it to another window
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i mean, when i send tells or receive tell in my aardwindow and any other window, its all good
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: only my script catches the tags
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Those are just bugs included with the Aardwolf client
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: baktosh, see my comment on the gossip channel
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baktosh Tech: I did, but yells didn't sound like the things you mentioned :
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there is a bug in the channel capture plugin that is fixed in my version
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baktosh Tech: Oh, chat.  I ended up disregarding that because I only watch the main window for that stuff :
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it would be messed up even in the main window
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baktosh Tech: Guess that'd probably 'splain it, then
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just having the plugin enabled causes plain white text on channels to not show in the uncorrected one
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: which has been known for about a year now and still isn't fixed in the official package
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish sighs.
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: or maybe more than a year
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: so about my case... is there another way to not catch the tags? or i just have to deal with it in some other way?
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, the official package was a 1-time deal...nothing has changed since first release...I'd prefer if the plugins were released as plugins (which was originally stated to be coming soon)
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: gentoox, what are you trying to do?
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: catch a reply
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: be more explicit
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I use catchtells. :D
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: ^(*.?) tells you (.*?)$  returns {tell}Aescretia in wildcards[1] in lua
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so what's the problem?
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: ^(?:{tell})?(.*?) tells you (.*?)$
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's because (.*?) includes {tell}
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: write the trigger on what the MUD sends, and it won't do that
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GentooX ) tech thanks guys
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ^{tell}(.*?) tells you (.*?)$ (I'm not sure if you need to do anything to escape the {} in MUSH)
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it nver hurts to escape more than necessary
T1/r6/2009-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: normally
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bundy Tech: so in mush what is the random symbol?
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bundy Tech: with aliases
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrakPuppet Kongol Tech: anyone able to help with removal of malware
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrakPuppet Kongol Tech: specifically personal anti-virus malware
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: are you wanting to remove it from your home? or remove it from the computer? one solution is going to much easier than the other
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrakPuppet Kongol Tech: i want it removed from my computer
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: darn... was hoping you'd opt for the easier solution
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrakPuppet Kongol Tech: it wont let me install anti spyware either
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: try doing a pandascan online
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrakPuppet Kongol Tech: which is?
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: it's an online scan ... should be able to find it by googling: pandascan
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrakPuppet Kongol Tech: must it be purchased?
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: doesn't require much in the way of stuff installed on your computer (though it will require some), and so it helps to isolate the software that is scanning your computer from the computer itself
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: should be a free scan that will solve most things.
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: i've used it
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: but you will want to get avg free and spybot search and destroy
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: assuming you have windows....
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrakPuppet Kongol Tech: i do
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: which version?
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrakPuppet Kongol Tech: hmm just a second
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrakPuppet Kongol Tech: well im more concerned about now
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrakPuppet Kongol Tech: considering its blocking any attempts at spyware programs
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: one option is to start it in safe mode with networking and running the online pandascan
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrakPuppet Kongol Tech: im not quite sure you know what personal anti-virus is google it real quick
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: do microsoft employees code all that malware and or provide consultation to malware authors -- seems odd that malware authors are so prolific 
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: also, try ccleaner
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaradcel Tech: ccleaner and spybot for the win
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: google answer: http://www.spywareremove.com/removePersonalAntivirus.html
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: ???
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: microsoft just leaves the doors open and says, "yes! jehovah's witnesses! come in! entertain us while the virus coders peruse our programming code in our workroom!"
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: not really if you know what you are doing
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrakPuppet Kongol Tech: it doesn't give much on advice
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: odd kongol, it seems to be VERY SPECIFIC on that site i posted.
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: even lists the files that are associated with that virus, their file size, and the md5 for them
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrakPuppet Kongol Tech: hell its not even letting me go into add/remove programs
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: did you try the program it linked to on that page?
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrakPuppet Kongol Tech: yes
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrakPuppet Kongol Tech: pops up saying
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrakPuppet Kongol Tech: application has failed to start because SRCLIENT.dll was not found.
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: write down (or better yet, print off that page), and reboot in safe mode, and try the add/remove steps
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrakPuppet Kongol Tech: reinstallling might help
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrakPuppet Kongol Tech: and how do i reboot in safe mode?
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Vista or Xp 
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrakPuppet Kongol Tech: xp
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: f8 key isn't it?
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: you are not offered a menu on startup on reboot ?
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: most people have it hidden when they start up
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrakPuppet Kongol Tech: okay i have ccleaner running can we try that first or?
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrakPuppet Kongol Tech: i dont see personal anti-virus anywhere in there tho
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrakPuppet Kongol Tech: okay rebooting in safe mode then
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrakPuppet Kongol Tech: okay well
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: are you in safe mode now?
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrakPuppet Kongol Tech: no not exactly
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrakPuppet Kongol Tech: im on a wyse if you know what that is...
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: hehehe
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: I'M SORRY.
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: which client?
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrakPuppet Kongol Tech: hmm?
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: you said you're running xp, so i'm assuming that you're running one of the following models: S90, V90L/LE, or R90L/LE
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrakPuppet Kongol Tech: i couldn't tell you i didn't set it up
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: hehe middleman tech
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: well, i'm not versed in xpe... so i have to retract my help, plus it's late at night for me... my brain can't handle the pressure... AH! tweak reference from south park if you missed it
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrakPuppet Kongol Tech: okay
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: LInux ftw
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrakPuppet Kongol Tech: well can anyone else help me remove this program from my little box
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xyliz suspects that some microsoft employees are moonlighting by leaking code to malware authors
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Drachon is agreeing with that Xyliz person again...
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: as if microsoft didn't pay enough to begin with
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrakPuppet Kongol Tech: so no way to remove this thing? cause its blocking all anti spyware from running and well can't figure out how to run it in safe mode
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: from the horrid bugs that infest microsoft software, the microsoft programmers obviously believe they are grossly underpaid
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: funny too. cause linux code writers did it all for free 
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: seems that ceos and managers at microsoft paid more salary and bonuses than programmers at microsoft -- hence the horrid buggy software
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatale Elliden Tech: anyone know how to create triggers/aliases on atlantis?
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenacious Takanata Tech: anyone able to help out with a little issue?
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: issue on what?
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenacious Takanata Tech: desktop suddenly went all wonky
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenacious Takanata Tech: the background became a big message that said "Warning you're in danger. Your computer is infected with spyware." (there's more, but I don't want to type the whole thing...)
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenacious Takanata Tech: bunch of popups, etc...
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: that i cant help
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenacious Takanata Tech: keep doing end task in task manager... but...
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volans Tech: suggestion - boot in safe mode, start removing stuff you dont recognize
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenacious Takanata Tech: was wondering if anyone had ever had this happen.
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: download malwarebytes and combofix.. boot in safe mode, run combofix, reboot.. run malwarebyets:)
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: try to run hijackthis from trend micro.  http://www.trendsecure.com/portal/en-US/tools/security_tools/hijackthis
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenacious Takanata Tech: not actually my computer... sort of afraid to turn it off - it might not reboot?
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'll have to reboot
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the bad stuff is in current memory
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: second windoze messed up in like 5 hours or so
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: DSL reports describes this. One poster says: One way to remove it that seems to be working:
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Sorry, it says One way to remove it that seems to be working: Go to Control Panel - Display- Desktop. Click on the Customize Desktop button. Then select Web and uncheck (or delete) the webpage Security. Click OK and it's done. 
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the DSLreports one is a different message...that one's message is about being logged, not infected
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in your google search, go down to the geekstogo links or further down
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenacious Takanata Tech: thanks, guys :)
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenacious Takanata Tech: hopefully it's gonna stay gone.
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: abelinc hi, a question, if you are on openbsd, (you're not, but) and you wanted to use the ports tree from netbsd, do you have to do anything special, to make sure it and your other ports tree's builds don't cause each other problems in /usr/local ?
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: netbsd puts it in /usr/pkg by default, actually :-)
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ah sweet.
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: netbsd's pkgsrc system works on nearly all unix-like OSes (MacOSX, linux, Solaris, etc)
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tslacker Tsarikos Tech: abelinc, got a moment?
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tslacker Tsarikos Tech: i downloaded tinyfugue and it unpacked, but i don't know what to do next
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: going to the source directory, and typing '    ./configure '  ?
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you download a binary package, or source?
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: from source, yeah, configure & make
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tslacker Tsarikos Tech: hm i dunno, i downloaded the tar.gz one
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: where it puts the binaries depends on the permissions of the user...if you're a regular user, it'll put it into ~, if you have enough privs, it'll put it into /usr/local
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's also in some of the repositories, but then you've got to pay attention that it's tf v5 instead of some still just having v4
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tslacker Tsarikos Tech: um. i'm in the src folder
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tslacker Tsarikos Tech: what do i do from there?
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: are you using linux?
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tslacker Tsarikos Tech: i'm on a mac
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: ahh okay
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: on a Mac, do you have the developer tools installed?
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tslacker Tsarikos Tech: uh what developer tools?
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tslacker Tsarikos Tech: sorry, really bad with computers
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're on a second CD/DVD with the system, it includes compilers and stuff
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can also download them from Apple
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apple calls them XCode iirc
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tslacker Tsarikos Tech: don't think i have them
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: doesn't mac come with some sort of package management system so he doesn't have to manually compile the source?
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: maybe someone has built a package for tf and put it on the web
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tslacker Tsarikos Tech: she. haha
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: come with, no...but many work on MacOS
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: sorry, she
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there is no Apple package manager
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you could get something like Fink though, if that still exists
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's NetBSD's pkgsrc system, fink, etc
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: also MacPorts (formerly DarwinPorts)
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tslacker Tsarikos Tech: what do i do after i get fink?
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the only one I personally use is NetBSD's, but it requires a case-sensitive file system partition for the compilation
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you have fink, run fink commander for the GUI
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the version of tf in the fink repository is 4.0s1, I recommend 5.0b8
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i'm using 5.0b8
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: tsarikos, you might be better off than searching google how to install developer tools then following the readme on compiling tf
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: its not that bad, really :p
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tslacker Tsarikos Tech: um. what's fink commander and what's GUI!
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tslacker Tsarikos Tech: sorry for the spam :\
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fink commander is part of fink, and a GUI is a pretty window with buttons, instead of typing commands into Terminal.app
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tslacker Tsarikos Tech: okay i'm running finkcommander
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tslacker Tsarikos Tech: what next?
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: is there an easy way to echo text from the world window out to a file in tinyfugue?
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: ie to log world output to a text file?
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: yeah 
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: but just a tell buffer?
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: there's a /log command which will log classes of stuff
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: like log something | grep tell
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: or if you want only certain lines, there's a whole section on fileio
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: tfopen and tfwrite commands can do that
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: anipopo, is there a way to send more than one line of text before sending to the mud, such as zmud's ctrl-enter ?
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: how do you mean?
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: im not exactly sure, someone asked me if i knew how to enter a second line of command without entering it into the mud
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: seperate it with semicolons
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: oh, like:  command1; command2; command3... <ENTER> ?
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: yes
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: no , like for copy pasting into notes?
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: in tf you have to use a substitution... you don't always want it to sub ";" for your multiple command program, so perhaps easier to write an explicit macro to do it
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: they said 80 spaces per line is the maximum
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: oh. sorry. didn't know tf was being used. i'm not familiar with that program
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: if you copy text with CRs, tf will paste the CRs into your note too
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: who said?
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: there is (or at least used to be) a note formatter on the aardwolf website
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ok
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: do you know if it works with tf 50b8 ?
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: i'm on b7 but i see no reason it shouldn't
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: anipo, its not under mudresources, is it?
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: anipopo is there an easy way to make it so that hitting ctrl-v will paste into the client?
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: and/or, is it kbregion.tf ?
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exyon Tech: Anyone have a macro for the Aardwolf Mush client that will do a hunt 1.questmob until it finds the one that can't track, and then do a where for that mob?
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: there's a plugin for that already
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exyon Tech: Oh, perfect!  Where at?
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: cphunt... not sure where i got it from
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exyon Tech: Okay, I'll google it.  Thank you
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: i love google
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exyon Tech: I know : ) pulled it right up!
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exyon Tech: Wow.  This is quite complex.
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: ??
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: cphunt <mob>
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exyon Tech: Yep - the addon for it is complex. All the coding
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: oh
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: anyone know if there is a way to pull a specific item from a list in a variable?
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: what client?
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: zmud
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: %item
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Linkdead) Fuego Tech: Anyone know how to save each column of an excel sheet into separate text files
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: highlight column, copy, open text file, paste, save text file?
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Linkdead) Fuego ) yes that would work, anyone know a quicker way if there are hundreds of columns?
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: save as an xml, then parse
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: in zscript, is it possible to have a loop within a loop? i'm thinking no, cause you can only have 1  at a time, or at least without it getting confused which one i'm referencing...
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: hmm...that's one %i at a time
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: yes it is possible.  You might get confused, but Zmud doesn't
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zogbad Tech: cmud does
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: should be able to use a different variable
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You can in zMUD, too.
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: starting with , you just keep using letters, skipping over any letter already taken up by wildcards and the like
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: so if it doesnt get confused, which one does it use? :P
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: hmm, starting with i
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: #LOOP 10 {#LOOP 10 {#say %i %j}}
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: kk, thanks :)
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: i = 1, j = 2, k = 3, and so on.
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: If you have a string of loops within a loop... seek different options. :P 2 is ok... 3 is getting ridiculous, and 4+... is just flat out... meh.
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: yeah, only 2 :P
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: i'm not a very good coder, probably a more efficient way to do this, but this is the way i thought of, and its not a script i'll use particularly often, so i'm just sticking with it :P
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: though if we're talking about more efficient ways, perhaps i'll ask...
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: say i have #VAR x {1|null|1|2|null|1|2|3|null|1|2|3|4} and i want to break it down into #VAR 1 {1};#VAR 2 {1|2};#VAR 3 {1|2|3};#VAR 4 {1|2|3|4}...essentially detect where the nulls are and break it there...
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Hmmm.
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: arrays?
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i dont know zmud but it looks like a 2D array
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: no just a string list
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: My head hurts from trying to figure that out. :(
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I'm going back to hibernating right now.
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: lol ok
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: zmud uses nested stringlists.  You can fake it, but ZMud doesn't actually do multi-dimensional arrays
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: i'll just stick with my loop within a loop solution
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: Myrkul are these variables related?  You might be able to use a datarecord variable
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: well...i have one big variable broken into sections with nulls...and i want to separate into different variables...not sure what you mean by related...
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: the keys for the datarecord variable would represent the separate variables you wanted to track, and in ZMud you can put stringlists into these keys
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: i CAN do it with a loop within a loop, but that's not particularly efficient...
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: at least i think i can do it :P havent actually tried yet
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: but i've done a similar think in ti-basic
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: thing even
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: hi, I'm fairly new to muds, I'm on linux and have been using tintin++, I'm just wondering if there's a nice supply of scripts somewhere, i've not found much online
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not really much being distributed for tt++...I've got a fair number of tinyfugue scripts though :-)
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: if you use linux, it means you should be able to modify scripts? :D
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: I don't mind switching to tf if there's a lot more stuff for it
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: modifying scripts is different than reinventing the wheel from scratch
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we have a few diehard tt++ users, and cartman's good at it and always willing to help, I just don't know of any script repositories for it
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: yeah i'm happy to try modifying or writing my own, it's just there's no point if someone else has already done it
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: - h 10
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: How can I get my activity tool bar in its own window with Mush?
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: any ideas how to configure python scripting for MUSH?
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd have to have python installed first (it doesn't come with MUSH)
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: i have it, downloaded it from python.org
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do you want all scripts to default to python, or just use it within certain plugins?
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Airy Tech: am using mushclient... any idea how i can prevent the full screen from going back to half, and the mini map from popping up everytime i recall?
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: within certain plugins i guess
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: airy, type "bigmap auto off"
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Airy Tech: thanks :)
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: apparently i can't register python script engine for mush
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: register? did Vista cop stop you
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: no, im using xp
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I think you just register the dll when you want to change the main/core scripting language
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: no idea how to do so, lol
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: MUSH can try to register it for you.
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: There's a button in configure->scripting
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: register dll button you mean?
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: leinei, that's to change the main scripting language
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: anyway it isn't enabled for python
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: That's not what he's wanting?
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: And nods, just realized it's not enabled for Python.
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: probably python doesn't use a dll
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: what if i try to change the scripting language to python? will scripts written in lua still work?
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, only plugins written in lua will
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can only use scripts in one language, unless they're done as plugin
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: so..what if i try to write python plugins instead? what do i need to configure
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: should just have to use the drop-down to tell the plugin wizard that you want it to use python
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you register the python app in the python download...as long as it's registered with windows, MUSH will "just know" how to use it
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: i think that's the problem i ran into...no idea how to 'register' the python app
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try C:\python22\lib\site-package\win32comext\client\pyscript.py --register
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: using python26 now, doesnt seem to have pyscript.py
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in addition to python, you need pywin32 package
T1/r6/2009-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: once that's installed, you should have \Python24\Lib\site-packages\win32comext\axscript\client\pyscript.py
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Is there any online tools that can convert Perl code into something comprehensible?
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon eyes Rathik suspiciously.
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Perl code is comprehensible.
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Are you volunteering to be the online tool? :P
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: You want me to explain perl code to you? :P
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Absolutely!
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: Ubuntu 8.1 - epic fail
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: in what way?
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: won't boot
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: fresh install last night, told me to take the cd out and reboot, rebooted, sits on a black screen with a mouse pointer in the middle
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: that is what's known in the trade as "a bit shit, really"
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: maybe your download got corrupted your cd scratched or some driver isnt liked by your machine
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: download passed, cd was checked by the ubuntu media checking program, and if some driver isn't included, then ubuntu really is naff, cos this is possibly the most common business machine in the history of computing
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if it found errors, would be nice to be told about them - i'll try a different cd and cd drive later, but i'm guessing it won't make any difference, might try mandriva instead
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: .*shrugs* mine went ratehr smoothly, i even found a wireless driver to hump my wireless card into submission
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: one of the qualities that makes a piece of software good is it's reliability across different pcs
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: 8 versions of ubuntu, and they still haven't cracked it, it seems
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: there's a version 9 out, i'll try that
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: anyone got an iso of windows 2000 OEM i could download?
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: no piracy on muh tech!
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: can zmud perform ansi color matching on trigger?
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: isn't piracy, i have all the licenses you could want
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: then you'd have a copy of the disc =p
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: no, i woudn't then have a copy of the disc
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: my collection only has 2000 pro retail, which is a different license set
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: then you're clearly doing it wrong
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: then clearly linux is rubbish
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: clearly your father takes it up the rummun
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Hey, if piracy is out of line personal attacks are way out.
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: lol
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: your fault!
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you brought us down to this!
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No. No I did not.
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: did to
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: play nicely, children
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: and another thing
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you'd think these "all windows" dvd collections would actually -have- all the editions on
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maaloc Tech: is there any way i can copy my aliases/triggers and put them on another computer?
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: mush?
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: If you're using ZMud, you can export them to a file, then import them
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maaloc Tech: oh sorry, on mush
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: find where you set it up to save automatically, transfer that onto a flash drive or something
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: then save it to the new computer and open it
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maaloc Tech: oh cool thanks
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: there is also a save button
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: you may find the plugin wizard cool too, just remember to uncheck remove triggers/aliases/timers/variables checkbox
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maaloc Tech: ok thanks for the help guys, wish me luck :)
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sandmann Tech: does anyone know how to import a script into cmud?
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sandmann Tech: never mind
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: this is really annoying me...#SHOW %concat("ar",1) returns ar1, #SHOW %numitems(ar1) returns 20, but #SHOW %numitems(%concat("ar",1)) returns 1...any ideas?
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Myrmidon Myrkul sighs.
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: parsing off doesnt make @s show :P always forget that
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: this is really annoying me...#SHOW %concat("@var",1) returns @var1, #SHOW %numitems(@var1) returns 20, but #SHOW %numitems(%concat("@var",1)) returns 1...any ideas?
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: first concat combines string var+1, seecond returns items in var1, third tries to get ar1 which in your case is 1 as correct one is ar
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: dont mind me, brainfart :D
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: nod, i was confused :P
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: have you tried to make the concat into variable different than var1?
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: nod, i'm actually using it in a loop with %i, not 1...wouldnt be a problem otherwise, would just use %numitems(@var1)
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: is there a tag for each map?
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: is there a tag for each mob?
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akos Tech: off
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: cmud is different; does anyone have scripts for cmud?
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's not that different
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: i tried an import and everything failed, and i can't remember how to build up panels
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://davos.aardcharn.com has some cmud scripts
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: thanks
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: those are the only public cmud scripts I know of offhand...if you're not comfortable just fixing your zmud scripts, you may be better off sticking with z
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's probably more on the zugg forums though, but harder to search through
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: cmud uses library for some scripts, from menu view/library
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: hmm ok, i'll start remembering how i did zmud stuff and then i'll move everything over
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: needs to be registered copy though
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: right now is just a flood of text from a lot of {stuff} that i need to filter out first
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tags off will turn it ALL off at once...
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but scripts will use and hide those
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: since i'm migrating, should i stick with "zScript" or change to something else, like lua or...jscript
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sticking with zscript means you'd just need to make pretty miniscule changes...changing languages means you'd be doing a ground-up rewrite of your scripts
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: i was planning groundup anyways
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're particularly familiar with another language, then go with what you're comfortable with
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: test
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the {chan ch=tech} gone now? :-)
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: yay
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: well ^({chan ch=(%w)})(*)$ is gone
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for channel capture to separate windows per channel, one gotcha is that q/a channel shows up as ch=question and ch=answer, depending on what they typed
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: lots of if statements, i'm just copying over from zmud now...lazy me
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: does cmud still have stateful triggers?
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: very likely
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Yes.
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Anything zMUD has, CMUD more likely has the same, if not a better, version of it.
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: do you have cmud scripts you'd like to share? :)
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Check the package library.
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: the what
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: CMUD's package library.
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: how do i get to this package library ?
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: By clicking the package library button in the toolbar.
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: oh
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: there it is!
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Of course, you have to have a zuggsoft account, too. :P
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: orly
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: No, not orally, but thanks for the offer.
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: i see your name!
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I see you, baby. Shaking that ass. Shaking that ass...
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: it appears that while my keygenned cmud can run fine, it can't dl from the library...
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: aww
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Sucks to be you if you don't have a legal copy. :)
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: umm, good?
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ramier  (
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: ):
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: well there's no aardwolfBot package, so i'd still have to make that one myself
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akos Tech: Hey folks, in creating an alias is there a nearest target or target like &tar I can use
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Try saying that again in comprehendable English.
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: in what client
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: akos, for in-MUD aliases, if you have "alias mm c 'magic missile'" and type "mm abe", it'll cast magic missile at me
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for in-client aliases, most clients have a method to use either "arguments" like the in-game, or use variables if that's preferable for the circumstance
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: do I get to try this?
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akos Tech: ok thankyou, but is there a way to set it up for nearest target or a particular target
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: particular target, specify the target
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: using the alias with no arguments while in combat will also work
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akos Tech: say the entire area is full of cats, can Iset target so its always for a cat
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, that would be a variable
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akos Tech: sorry guys, i aint no prgrammer and dont know the terminolgy
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for in-game alias, you'd need to redo the alias when you want to use something other than cat...could do "alias mm c 'magic missile' cat"...then "mm" will cast at cat specifically
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for in-client, you could alias it to c 'magic missile' @target or %target (different clients access variables differently)
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then reassign that variable whenever you want to attack something else for a while
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since you can abbreviate to a single character, it's often not worth doing that though
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akos Tech: ok thanks a lot guys, grrat help thankyou
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: might as well just do "mm c", then a bunch of just "mm"s, since you only need to say the target to start the fight...as chuft mentioned, once you're in combat, it'll automatically go to whomever you're fighting
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: do i have to save anything to keep window positions in cmud, or is it all kept by default
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: probably have to save your layout
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You can go to Layout and check 'Autosave layout.'
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: ok
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: is there a utility or option to format/indent cmud scripts
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: why doesn't m($| ) match (m and end-of-line) or (m and space)
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: which client?
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: cmud
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: is it set for Regular Expression, or is it the basic pattern matching?
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Because you need to use {$| }, not ($| )
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: L33tM4st3r Lashan nods at Alt. Helpa Charneus.
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: why?
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: your pattern would work with Regex, but not the default behavior
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Because {} means a group of items (could be any one of those). () means you're trying to pass it to a parameter.
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: because cMUD uses {} for multiple possibilities.
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: if it was Regex, it would have worked (i believe)
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: even if i have regex turned on?
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: but if it was Regex, i'd have recommended m\s?$
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods at L33tM4st3r Lashan.
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: For regex, you might try m[\s\n\r]
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: ok thanks
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: ooh. i'm sorry my example would have been flawed, i wasn't paying what you said enough attention
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: L33tM4st3r Lashan nods at Xantcha.
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ftalk enduro lol you sound like that zut alorien guy on my flist
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: mischan
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: argh cmud is so screwed up, m($| ) doesn't work but m( |$) does, because for some reason cmud interprets m($| ) as m($ )
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: so how do I stop outlook blocking access to .mdb files?
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: change the association to that file type?
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: outlook blocked it as unsafe, can't find the menu option to tell it to fuck off
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Since when did tech become curse?
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: since when did you become an imm?
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Since when do Advisors not follow the rules?
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: L33tM4st3r Lashan surreptitiously affixes an 'Imm' badge to his chest, hoping that nobody notices it's written in blue crayon.
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus pats Iron Duck Chuft on his head.
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft lifts his leg and pees on Alt. Helpa Charneus, marking his territory.
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: since when was your opinion of my ability to follow the rules relevant, to anyone?
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus shrugs helplessly.
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I'm sure the ratio of rule following advisors to non-rule following advisors is similar to the ratio of rule following players to non-rule following players.
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I've been on Aard pretty close to forever, and tech has always been loosely curse as long as no one gets overboard with it.
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: I ma making an alias that deletes a record from a variable but it won't work The alias is #DELKEY @portals %1
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: any ideas?
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Get rid of the @.
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: wow, i could have just looked at the addportals alias i made and realized that.. thank you cahrneus
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I'm sure Cahrneus appreciates you're thank you. I'll be sure to tell him when I see him next time. *blink*
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: your*
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: BigRichard Rampagne smirks.
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Damn vicodin.
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: i was waiting for you to say something like that :)
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus smirks.
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Anyone running debian and having trouble with apt-get's keys?
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: anyone here know how to stream webcam stuff via the interweb ?
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes, but only in windows. I never got it to work in linux
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: it turns out my netbook has a webcam, and i wanna be able to show the world how creepy looking i am
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: fiendish oh ok, so if i buy windows it might work??
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: download WebcamXP if you use Windows
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's a great program
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i don't... i use something less bloated
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is that what powered eric & avi?
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: which is no longer available
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: because 1) I moved. and 2) linux sucks
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: maybe I'll install windows in a virtual machine and run it inside that
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: oh i dont have linux either
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mac?
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there is streaming webcam software for the mac that works...sort of
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but nothing in my experience works nearly as well as webcamxp
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, qtss should work quite well on linix and MacOS
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: linux*
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: fiendish nah, i put bsd on here recently, and now nothing works the same way lol
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: my eth0 became an re0 and everything
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: its driving me batty
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's a good thing :-)
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: no its not, i use more carbs as a bat :(
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, changing from eth0 to re0 is a good thing :P
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: oh ok
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: abelinc, any idea how to get firefox to work if it stopped working after it crashed from a tab with a bad url?
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Open it back up and choose not to restore your session.
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: should be able to kill it good & dead, and relaunch
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: yeah, not working for me so far, was wondering if i have to delete a file somwhere
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: At the worst, you'll need to open up task manager and make sure Firefox's process has ended.
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: charn, he's not on winderz ;-)
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Well, blah.
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: therefore, the task manager is "ps -ef | grep firefox"
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I think BSD uses roughly the same flags.
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: balam , i've rebooted since
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you can check ls -d ~/.* to see if there's something resembling a session file/location
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: and it doesn't start up?
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: does it start up with "firefox -P"?
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: abelinc ok
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: let me try those 2.
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: see if it's something on that particular profile.
T1/r6/2009-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, now to recompile FF on my alpha...been using links ;-)
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: can someone help me? im trying to find a way to connect to iwuvaards database with zmud and lookup mob names. i have gotten as far as being able to get it to connect but unless i tell it to find mob_name it wont show me anything
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thurgood Tech: Anyone have experience with iGetter?
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: how would i get my hunger/thirst to display in the stats window?
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: would i have to change the plugin a bit
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: What client/plugin are you talking about?
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: the Mush client
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: with the "Stats" plugin
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Yeah, it would probably need editing.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I haven't used that plugin personally, but I think I have it somewhere.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: any idea of what i might need 2 add? would b of gr8 help :)
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Well, first off, using full words might be nice.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: k sure..
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: i'm just trying to save time
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: sure.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: It's a lot easier to sit through typing '2' than 'to'.  A whole keystroke.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: hunger/thirst are not displayed on the stats line.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: nope
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: but they /are/ displayed in the info prompt
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: If you type a modest 60WPM, shortening great to gr8 saves you less then one half second.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: i meant score prompt
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: lol
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: so.. lets try get back to the problem
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Now you see the violence inherent in the system! Help, Help, I'm being repressed!
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thurgood Tech: Bloody peasant!
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: monty python :D
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thurgood Tech: On another note, anyone have experience with iGetter?
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: nope. iGetter?
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I don't see anywhere that displays the information here.  Just gathering and broadcasting.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: but I'm done with work, so I will deal with it later.  In the meantime, buy the nohunger wish.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: thanx
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i wonder if it says more about socio-technological matters than purely technological that whenever i have to repair a pc that's virused to the hilt, i always see the same programs installed on them: Firefox, Limewire, Live Messenger, Nortons Internet Security
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Nortons Internet Security is bloated piece of crap, almost a trojan by the crqap that is put in the registry
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: anyone know how to display the list of a variable's contents in zmud?
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: anyone know how to display the list of a variable's contents in zmud?
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: oops
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: #show ar might hep
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: #show ar might help
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: ah, but how can i get it in a list form ?
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: ah, but how can i get it in a list form ?
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: ack
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: hm not sure what kind of list u want.. u can do a loop to display every item in a variable for example
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: i want one column to be the name and the second column to be the key word
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: the variable is a list of items
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: u may want to look up %expanddb
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: i will look
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bleh, why have m$ made it so hard to fix vista related update issues
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: heh, our IT is skipping Vista altogether :p
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's my decision as well
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: hurray for xp sp3 :p
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: *blatant advertising of Linux*
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: did anyone ever find a reliable workaround for the vista "identifying network" hang?
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: install WinXP?
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: *ducks*
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: close, fresh install it is, can't be arsed to mess around
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone want to play guess the fault?
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's microsoft's fault :-)
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: San Andreas?
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: xp machine, plug something into the usb port, says found new hardware, immediately and without prompting it flips to the next screen (like you'd clicked next) then back. Repeat very fast
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try different usb port, try the device in a different computer
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: check that nothing's pressing down on the enter key ;-)
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: already done, already done, and already done
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and the results were?
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: what sort of device?
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no difference, abe, usb devices, larimosa
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: tried a pc card and that was ok, so i'm downloading some updated chipset drivers atm
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: tried 2 usb flashes, a usb nic and a printer
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: okay, that sounds like an issue with that USB header, not the devices.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: usb controller or usb controller software, nogs
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: possibly a problem with corrupt permissions in the part of the registry that deals with usb hardware
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: lol, uninstalled the usb controller drivers and they won't reinstall
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: "oops"
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: xp repair cd time...
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: couple more tricks up my sleeve before i resort to that
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyhow, hooom time
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: is there some soft that let's copy the copy-protected dvds?
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: nothing legal.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Now why would you want to do that, Remps?
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: my dvd is so old my reader doesnt read it anymore properly
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I normally use dvdshrink 
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It's not a case of the DVD being old, but the surface being scratched up.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: I know,but new dvds rnt scratched up;)
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: ok,looking for the dvdshrink,thanks;)
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: So buy a new DVD instead of illegally breaking the copy-protection.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: And take better care of your DVDs.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Devil Remps nods.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Filt Tech: Screw the MPAA, copy it
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: i use dvds as coasters while i watch other dvds
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus gasps as he realizes what Filt did.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Devil Remps laughs out loud.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: whether what he is doing is illegal is open to question and more importantly jurisdiction
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Filt Tech: For your own personal use, why should anyone complain?
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Devil Remps is agreeing with that Filt person again...
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Swalec: However, we don't discuss things that are illegal in the United States. Aardwolf policy. ;)
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: and what about things where the legality are not clear? You're making a lot of judgements
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Legality has always been clear on DVD copying.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: legality is clear after a test case
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Bypassing the copywrite protection is against the DMCA, and illegal
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: quite oppasite char
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: in Usa, not in world around it
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if he paid for the DVD, fair use permits copying the DVD providing the original DVD is nearby
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: No, Foren, not quite the opposite. There's the big FBI warning at the beginning of DVDs that state 'Copying this DVD, whether for personal or business use, is against the law.'
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Regardles Xyliz, its against the DMCA to circumvent the copywrite protection.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Filt Tech: Lesson learned here, if you want to find an answer to your question about a subject like this, ask google, not Aardwolf.  Or ask me, I got all the programs one would ever need on the subject.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: fbi could say you fucked your mom and it's not against the law in mosambic.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: There are other ways to copy the dvd certainly
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the DMCA is a corrupt law by the corrupoted Usa
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Filt rapidly nods twice at Xyliz, in complete agreement.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Watch the language on this channel.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: However it is still a law, Xyliz
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: law in usa, not anywhere else
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Go figure, aard is based in the USA
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Foren: Right. As I stated, we don't discuss things that are against the law per US Laws.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: from te viewpoint of God, the Usa acted illegally in passing the DMCA law
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: copying DVDs in Europe is not against US laws
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: But Europe isn't in the United States, is it? :P
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the DMCA law blasphemes against God
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Different countries do have their own set of laws, however
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: That's why, since Aardwolf is a server based in the United States, we practice US laws.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: and weve jumped from law, to politics, to religion
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Daloran: No, Xyliz jumped to religion. No one listens to him anyway.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: anyways, what is the argument ? just got on 2 minutes ago :D
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: I heard that the DMCA caused global warming, too.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: yes, so while it is illegal in the US, for example, to commit treason against the US while in the EU, it is not illegal in the US, for example, to copy DVDs in the EU
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: fair enough
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I heard that the DMCA is the leading cause of cancer, and incest among families!
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xyliz is an antitheist -- to atheism 
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Swalec: You're missing the point. Whether it's illegal or not in Europe, we still don't dicuss it on public channels if it's illegal in the United States. ;)
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: touching small boys is legal if the small boy doesn't know it's illegal.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: so charneus, you're in the clear
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Linkdead) Alorien missed the point.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: discussing how to copy DVDs is legal unless the first ammendmenmt was discarded
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You keep telling yourself that, Michael Jacks^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HWyverex!
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Wyverex  erm . < the point
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: o rly!?  ^H!?
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: xyliz, the first ammendment doesn't apply to the MUD
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: that makes me 1010110010110011010010101001100
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the MUD is not the government
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: No one's saying anyone's breaking laws, Xyliz.  They're saying they're breaking Aard rules.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: what does make it illegal in US charn? the server? the host? The fact that it's thought to be in there?
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: The law makes it illegal in the US, Foren. As for Aardwolf, we're a server based in the United States, so appropriately, we follow the laws here. If the server was based in Europe, that'd be a different story.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: so child porn, that is found from europe to be in usa is legal?
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the mud is based in the Usa, so the first ammendment is applicable -- unless the mud wants to get the reputation of being anti-american and anti-first ammendment and pro-Charneus
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: No, because it would be found on US soil.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Xyliz: wrong, first ammendment does not apply on a mud.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: xyliz, the first ammendment is *NOT* applicable
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: no, because there are laws against the possession of it in the US as well as against the production of it, Foren
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: child porn is allowed to be in USA by government even though it's in abusive lists of other governements in europe. thus USA is PRO illegal and not PRO legal
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the first ammenment says that the GOVERNMENT shall pass no law infringing upon free speech...it says NOTHiNG about private entities having to allow free speech
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: guys, there issue here is not on of law, it's one of scope of the law
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: it is possible to break the US law while not in the US, but not by copying DVDs
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: naw, swalec, the scope is clear
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Well, just try to bring over 20mg of heroin from Country X into Singapore...
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: I hear something like DEBATE!!
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Foren: Since when was it allowed to be in possession of child pornography in the United States? Hell, just the other night, on America's Most Wanted, they were talking about new technology that lets the police/government/FBI what have you scan a person's computer remotely to see if they have child porn. If you do, they can get a warrant to bust you.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: so, copying DVDs outside of the US is not illegal in the US. On the other hand discussing where to obtain child pornography in the EU would be illegal in the US, regardless of where the person in question is. 
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Swalec: You're completely missing the point altogether.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: swalec, outside the US is not relevant to the discussion
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ooh, is there a discussion going on?
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aard rules don't care where you reside
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silent Noro Tech: Does teh discussion need to stay on tech or can it be moved?
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: It's Microsoft's fault, Tigernuts ;) >>> Debate
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Whether it is legal in other countries or not, public discussion about things that are illegal in the United States is against policy here.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Honestly, Abelinc tells Noro to be Silent!
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's a bit short-sighted
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: just out of curiosity, where is the policy? I'm wondering on the exact wording
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: he pretty much made it up based on random statements from imms over time
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: he does that
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Linkdead) Alorien Tech: Anybody in any need of any technical assistance?
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: is it charn? is it said in rules? last time I read them it's only about against the law. not law of usa :)
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus snickers with Iron Duck Chuft about their shared secret.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: It's also mentioned in help tech, Chuft ;)
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well, it is americans' belief that nothing exists beyond their borders
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not that nothing exists...it's just that nothing's relevant :-)
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: conduct illegal activity
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so as long as he's not asking for child porn, he's fine
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and the one writing that particular rule was from the UK :P
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i have no idea where else -ever- you'd hear that phrase
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: From help tech: "This channel (and any other public forum, for that matter) is NOT the place to conduct illegal activity, such as asking for cracks or where to find illegal software."
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: example in germany. man can carry shotguns in plane across the atlantic ocean, yet  he should not carry it across new york to miami.. 
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Foren: Not should not, but could not. ;)
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no he can't, foren
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Not unless it was in checked baggage, anyway.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: couldnt care less, atleast in europe he got cought
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: shutgun laws even in the US are *MUCH* less restricted than handguns
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: usa is pro terrorism, europe is pro civil rights currently
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why'd he get caught in europe when you just said it was OK there?
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: just check the news
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: think he was getting confused, abe, you get lynched for carrying a supersoaker here
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: yeah, there's something about the fact that it's a lot harder to hide a shotgun or rifle that makes them worry less.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Lacrimosa.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: US let him out with guns, him not knowing it is not allowed to FLY with guns. USA..thank god brazil is trying to find some trash from ocean
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, there's little problem flying with (checked/permitted) guns on US flights...crossing national borders is always interesting, though
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what was the original problem, anyway?
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: all i caught was piracy and child porn
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, making a backup copy of a DVD
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: atleast they are investigating why he was allowed in flight with them. as it is a law in usa that there cannot be any guns in plane without permission
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Talking about breaking copyright protection on DVDs. ;)
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what about it?
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: law varies slightly from country to country, i believe
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: usa law doesnt varie from usa country from usa citizen
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm not interested in usa law, tbh
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the Usa was founded on the breaking of oppressive unjust laws -- the DMCA is unjust and oppressive
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's shit
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: Xyliz, USa aint what it was, it's nowadays what is paid for
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nearest concensus you'll come to is the phrase that says "unauthorised copying and duplication is prohibited'
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: regardless of anyones opinion of the DMCA, as it stands, it is law. As such, its not discussed on the mud
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steevz Tech: What are you guys talking about?
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: a month ago, angry Usa Americans were ready to throw tea parties
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: with sugar xyliz
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: huge difference
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they did throw tea parties
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: with sugar!
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'd feel personally agrieved if i were not allowed to make a copy of a dvd for personal use
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and there are plenty of reasons under UK law that, were they to disallow that, you could demand they supply you free replacements if they get scratched or damaged
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: but to the point, none can say its ILLEGAL to talk something in here as it's LEGAL in lots of places. However, Aard is in USA and it should automatically make sure that legal rights are not allowed. thus anything said is illegal
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Tigernuts:  If you're buying a item, you're agreeing to the terms of use.  That doesn't even have much to do with laws put in place by the government.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: yet again: DEBATE!
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nogs, additional rules of conduct that lay on top of yor local laws
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: buying an item does not agree to the terms of use
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: opening the packaging does, most of the time
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Heh... regarding copyright laws: "Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 106 and 106A, the fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright."
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ahh, now, is that a local copyright law?
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Taken from: http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap1.html#107
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nogs, US law
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: in summary - don't nick stuff, it's naughty
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: fair use doctrine is only for specific purposes, like instruction or criticism or reporting media
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: That'e exactly what that says, Lacrimosa. :P
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: however, that eula is legal only in usa.. how pathetic is that
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: And, as much as I'd love to continue this discussion, I have things to take care of here. :(
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: have fun, Charneus. :)
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Always. :P
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: that I agree with
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tech heh, I work for a library...we have some extra clauses in the copyright code, and some fair use doesn't apply to us (like we can't use backup copies of even music CDs)...we had an issue where 1 DVD out of a box set of an Indian TV show hadn't been set to region free. Back & forth a few times with the distributor/publisher and they told me to region hack it & put the hacked copy into our loaner set. We're keeping lots of paperwork for CYA on that one :P.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: Hey! I've got a zmud question!
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sinsual Seryna Tech: any smart computer literate people around?
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spodgy Tech: maybe :) Whats the question?
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sinsual Seryna Tech: ok installed new HD into old computer, single loud beep, doesnt ever show anything
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: not so good
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Look up your motherboard, and it'll tell you what a single loud beep means for that particular model.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Generally iirc it means bad RAM
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: was pretty sure POST beeps were all the same...
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: nod try removing and reseating your ram, likely got knocked.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sinsual Seryna Tech: kk wuvs
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spodgy Tech: ummm.. have you tried switching it off and turning it back on again :)
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sinsual Seryna Tech: been there, done that.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spodgy Tech: there are a few bright sparks lurking here
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: A computer will boot without a HD, so that's not it. But you might've knocked the RAM loose when you replaced the HD.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you see bright sparks, then turn it off & unplug it ;-)
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You fluffle Spodgy mercilessly, making his fur a terrible mess.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: this channel isn't renowned for bright sparks
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spodgy Tech: to be honest I'm never on the same wavelength.. they're all furiously level building :)
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, it's populated by tigernuts, after all
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sinsual Seryna Tech: ram is in tight, reseated it, still same thing
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: do you know what bios the system uses?
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spodgy Tech: dumb suggestion.. but might it be something to do with different protocols with old computer and new hd?
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon shakes her head at Spodgy.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Spodgy bows his head in shame
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's after it gets past this stuff
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Like I said, comps will boot without hard drives. So if it's not booting at all, then it wouldn't have to do with the HD
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sinsual Seryna Tech: how do i find out bios? this comp is like 8 yrs old :p
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: maybe see if it goes to POST without the HD
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sinsual Seryna Tech: new hd is disconnected
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Look up the mobo online, Seryna
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sinsual Seryna Tech: to ensure it wasnt new hdd
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is the thing the hd connected to on a card, or directly on the mobo?
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: unplug all but vid card and try getting to bios.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: beyond the ram, any of the expansion cards could have come loose as well
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: monitor turned on?
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: That wouldn't cause a long error beep, Myopic.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sinsual Seryna Tech: i know i'm not all that computer literate but honestly, I'm not a fucking retard :p
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sinsual Seryna Tech: yes, the monitor is on.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: whoa, watch the language on the public channels
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: no insult intended
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: It's on my checklist
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: well done to Ubuntu 9, and boo hiss to Intel
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: i do like a jaunty jackalope... do you sir, do you?
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: Hmm have you played with the beta 9.10?
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steevz Tech: OpenSuse is what I'm using right now.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: no, but 9.04 passes the first test by having wireless support that works
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steevz Tech: I HATE how slow it checks repos
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: not for my draft N usb card :P
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i had an idea of testing windows 7 on some dell units i had, but unfortunately Intel won't support their 800series chipsets beyond xp, and no generic driver was ever written
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: and I have not bothered yet to figure out wrappers, only been screwing with 9.04 for about a week... learned some critical stuff about permissions and -R being a really bad combo.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: So far I'm fairly impressed by Win7 :)
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: esp when you add sudo into the picture...
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: sudo make me a sandwich
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: Hmm I should see what sort of easter eggs are in there for sudo and commands... there should be something interesting via sudo kill my exwife.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: well, other than the lack of a video driver, windows 7 connected up to wifi with stock drivers (and that WAS draft N), and wizzed around sdoing some basic things ok
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: looked a bit weird, and don't like the new task bar, don't like the lack of traditional layout
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: You can disable the new taskbar easily
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: """I can't make it look like windows 98"""
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: cool so you're saying a prebeta windows product has more support that WinXP x64 ever did :P reason #2 I'm not going to put another MS OS on my comp.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: we use xp x64 at work on the store machines and it works absolutely fine, fates
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it has as much support as vista 64bit
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: The best part about 7 is that aside from the virtualization kernel they dropped backwards compatibility, Fates... so they could write it right without trying to support decades of legacy code
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: I liked x64 aside from lack of wireless support, it was a great OS, pity nobody supported the hardware end of it.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: didn't see the virtualization bit
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: what client will let me see raw tags?
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Any client?
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: All of them
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: eh? should it be tags on or off?
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: on right?
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: If you want to see the tags, yes.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It should say 'Yes' or 'No' :P
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: strange hmmm
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Type 'tags' by itself to see what tags you have showing.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Your client may be gagging them for whatever reason, but they're there.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: hey guys, anyone know how to explicately require a particular wifi essid?
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: What is "explicately" and what OS are you on?
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: rathik i was on openbsd but i managed to kill my firefox browser in it, and i'm on linux now just cause its easier
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: but i want to only connect to the one access point
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: and not any other.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: like, i live by 5 wifi ap points, and another one across the street.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: and i want just a specific one.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Is it Gentoo?
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: no but i can get gentoo
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: what? looking for me?
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Well basically, in your config file, you can specify a specific essid :P You'd have to look at the example config file though, because I don't remember offhand, and I can't peek at my config file at the moment.
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ok, and is it ok that it needs wpa?
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Whenever I use WPA, I used wpa_supplicant
T1/r6/2009-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Anyone here running debian and having trouble with apt-get?
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyrith Tech: anyone having trouble signing to msn right now?
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwarehan Tech: no?
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyrith Tech: better yet. anyone listening to this channel? oh.
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyrith Tech: yeah. its not letting me sign into msn. god damnit.
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Biff Tech: yeah
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: I'm signed in fine.
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyrith Tech: oops. not sure if cussing is allowed on here, if not, my bad.
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Biff Tech: i havent been able to get into msn for months now
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: what is the difference between %iskey( var, %1) and %iskey( var, "%1")
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: how do you tell an if statement that i do not care what the case of the letters are?
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: what language?
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: zmud
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: don't know about zmud -- usually way is with regexp or convert to a single case
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: i think i figured it out you have to say #IF %1 is <>
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: instead of #IF %1= <>
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: nm it messes up the rest of the script
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: wow lol all that time reading up on wifi setups... and all i really needed was to capitalize a letter in my ap name
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: It never hurts to be case-sensitive... you never know when it'll matter.
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: that makes sense as almost all of them have some flavor of linux embedded in them. Since linux is case sensitive it carrying that over to hardware and software it runs makes sense.
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: xantcha yeah now i understand
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: well now that i'm wireless, i'll brb, gonna switch rooms
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: er wait, i guess im not going afk for that
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: today's job is to try and rescue a pc that a customer had "oiled"
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: tigernuts penetrating oil, or mineral?
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: really don't know, it's oily, probably some kind of light synthetic oil by the sounds, the guys a bit of a retard, medically, and had a noisy fan
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ok.
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: so he oiled the noisy fan, and it got the board too?
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, prob wd40
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i've seen people do it with vegetable oil
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the fan spun, flicking off the oil
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: abelinc, wd40 costs like 8 bucks more than the cheap stuff :P
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: abelinc ah the fan blades, got it
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: dagnir yeah, i saw a guy put castor oil in his crankcase once
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's all a bit sticky, but does still appear to work
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: so it works, and you want to remove the oil basically?
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: he destroyed the motherboard, so we've recased and upgraded it
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: it doesnt smoke up when it gets hot, ?
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: oh he destroyed it... ok
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: silly as it sounds, vd, that's actually what i'm worried about
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: tigernuts well, the oil in my car tends to boil if left in exposure to air, so i wholly understand
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: cpus can get up to about 200 fahrenheit cant they?
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: also of note, the oil in my car is designed to be in contact w/ the heat (im guessin the oil he used is just to lubricate ) ?
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no, vd
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ok good.
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: max at around 130
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: if you have some of his oil left
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and i've cased his im an antec 1200, so there's huge airflow keeping it cool
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: you can maybe try heating it up and seeing what temperature it starts to smoke/burn at?
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nah, but i'll make sure to do some heavy testing to see it work at max heat
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: issue with power plugs, bloody things needs 9 large molex, 1 small molex, 4 sata
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: don't spose anyone here has a MS Windows 2000 Professional OEM CD?
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: I just downloaded one actually.
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: of course I do, but why?
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: couldn't iso it and upload it to me, could you?
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: Bah, if I were home I'd do it...
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: got some 2000 pro boxes that i need to wipe/reinstall, but i've only got the retail cd atm, and the licensing is all different
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: technically shouldn't do that, not legal in US, shouldn't talk about this on this channel...
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nonsense
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: I downloaded the iso from the MS website...
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: eh? how did you manage that?
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: seriously, Seraion?
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: logged into licensing.microsoft.com, sure
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: Yea. I was a student of a program that offered a free MSDN account.
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: didn't think they'd still be proffering obsolete software tho
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so  why did microsoft rebrand their search engine?
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus shrugs helplessly.
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: From Live to Bing... heh.
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Probably to pretend it's something new.
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: With a crappy start, why keep the same name? 
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i was thinking it was to disassociate it from Microsoft/Windows
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: That could be it, too.
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: I thought it was to tie in with the tv show, "Friends"
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: someone uses Fiendish scripts?
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's a bit of a stretch, tenlorn
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: to tie in with the Cherry variety?
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they named it after a common noise that windows boxes make
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: to tie in with the famous singer of traditional christmas tunes?
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: After Crosby, of course.
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mohan, lots of people use fiendish's scripts
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Tigernuts: I always thought that was 'Ding!' But then I guess they don't want something associated with Everquest and WoW.
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: so can help the?
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not without knowing what issue you're having
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: I need to see the automap floating window, but it doesn't work
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Unlock your layout.
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: is unlocked
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Under Window, does it not show the map window?
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're using zmud, not cmud?
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: zmud 7.21
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: I wanna see it in the right upper part of my screen
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You can click the window and drag it there.
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: now it make paart of the all right part
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Ok. After making the map viewable, lock the layout, THEN drag the window.
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: trying
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: well now the problem is, I can't see the shortmap in the new window
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Just gotta complain about everything, don't you. :P
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus chuckles politely.
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: started again and made it again, and it doesn't work, again
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: why after bigmap installation appears the numbers and new lines?
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: something like this :"|15|"? or "|Pencil|"
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: where are you seeing the |Pencil|? It shouldn't have anything to do with the bigmap script
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: So I've downloaded MXit - anyone can guide me to get it to run Aardwolf?
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: for example now in that window I'm looking that you typed
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: sorry, Trurien, I use MidpSSH instead. Less connection overhead.
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I was on that, but I deleted the app. Didn't play nice with screen, which I use on this box.
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: isn't MXit an IM app?
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Plus, there's been a lot of people using MXit lately, I figured I should get around to trying it so that I could help others.
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yeah a lot of people are playing Aard from there though.
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's silly, use a terminal app to access a terminal-access thing like aard
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no wonder they're all incompetently accessing Aard
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lacrimosa laughs out loud at you.
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: 24 of them at this very moment, in fact.
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: I'm sure it eats bandwidth, too.
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, at least that's 24 that are reporting as it...some of us can tell our clients to claim to be anything ;-)
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: No, he's seeing 24 as the site they're from... all the mxit users are going through a single IP gateway
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Nods, they're all connecting through the same app.
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I knew wiznet shows what client is in use as well, wasn't sure what he was using to determine
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: It does?!  dang, how come I never got that option?
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or maybe it's just when debugging is on
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when Lasher totally changed the low-level socket stuff, he prolly just had some extra debugs turned on at the time
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: I don't see how the MUD could tell unless the client wanted the MUD to know.
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: More than likely the socket negotiation code is different depending on the client... with testers on zmud, cmud, and mush among others, could probably determine what client by the WILL and WONT transactions
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I'd imagine wiznet determines client from the mccp protocol signature?
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: madcatz, it's part of negotiation
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it is the client wanting the MUD to know, which is why I said that we can lie, if the client supports it
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: meh, my 2003 server needs rebooting, it's going at a crawl
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stalion Tech: How do i install the 3moons plugin from the webpage?
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: anyone know what the rules are for the aardwiki? I'd like to put some mushclient plugins on it
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Help wiki, has some rules
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stalion Tech: speaking of plugins..how can i install the 3 moons one from the website?
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what website,and have you followed the directions on the site?
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you mean the crimson horde clan website, then (1) it's for zmud, and (2) there's some pretty red text at the top of the page that says how to install
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stalion Tech: emerald nights page, it says its for mushclient
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm not seeing anything of the sort on Emerald Knight's website
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guy of Gisbourne Tech: i am trying out the aard version of mush clientand was wondering if anyone could tell me what font size and type the lold mush client version used so i can make it look more familiar
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stalion Tech: ahh my bad its on frostblade webpage
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Anyone used a Clie Stowaway keyboard before?
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guy of Gisbourne Tech: my stats, align, gold, qp, tp, items etc are all diplayed below my prompt does anyone know how to turn them off? 
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrakPuppet Kongol Tech: what client are you using?
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guy of Gisbourne Tech: mush client
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: think the command is statmon
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guy of Gisbourne Tech: yep that did it
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrakPuppet Kongol Tech: i turn off all tags
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: was it today that xbox live was going to be down for a while?
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tauric Tech: Hrm.. I just installed the aardwolf mushclient.. how do I get rid of the {chan ch- stuff?
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tauric Tech: Anyone?
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rithlin Tech: tags off
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tauric Tech: Ahh, thanks!
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: hmmm -- sounds to me like one of the plugins is not working
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: it should be using those tags to redirect the chats to a chat window
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tauric Tech: I actually turned off that plug in, couldn't get rid of the tags though.. tags off did it:)
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rithlin Tech: Probally installed over a previous version.
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: okay, well, you said "just installed" rather than "just installed and then fiddled with it"
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rithlin Tech: Probally installed over a previous version.
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rithlin Tech: whoops
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: although the plugin should switch those tags off. Ah well, there you go
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steevz Tech: Who plays MUSHclient on here through wine?
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I am currently
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steevz Tech: Can you get fixedsys font?
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: lemmie check.
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I don't have it in my font list.  I tend to use Courier New, since it's on pretty much everything.  Not pretty, but it works.
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steevz Tech: yeah, im using that too.
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: apparently, you need to copy over vgafix.fon from a Windows system.
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steevz Tech: Okay, thanks. I installed corefonts via winetricks wan't included.
T1/r6/2009-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: ooo...  didn't know that included corefonts.  I just copied my fonts from one computer to another.  Thanks.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: in zmud is there a way to change fonts just for a certain window or do they all have to be changed?
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sophus Tech: hey all, i forget what to type when my stats show something like {stats}119/73,133/91,107/91,112/79,91/75,117/96,100,100,100,120,225,You are Standing.,9999,2510/2510,2250/2250,1861/1861,1663009,528,1,2500,924,92,5 and i want it to go away
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Statmon.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sophus Tech: aha, thanks a lot
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Does tags off, turn off statmon as well?
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: that's separate
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you can't embed javascript onmouseover's into css can you?
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: LCD or Plasma for a 42" HDTV?
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: in zmud if i wanted to say gag # but not ## how would i do that?
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: Which will primarily be used for Xbox 360.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: LCD
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: with an HDMI cable
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: plasmas are just cost-prohibitive now
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: Well yeah, HDMI for sure.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: I think lcds have longer life than plasma
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: I'm stuck between a Panasonic VIERA LCD, Samsung Plasma, or Insignia Plasma.  I know Insignia is Best Buy's house brand, but I kind of like that.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: All 42" with the proper inputs.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: compare refresh rates and constrast?
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: why not sony bravia?
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: Although the Panasonic lacks a PC input, and while that is totally not necessary at all...the concept of hooking my computer to a 42" screen amusing me greatly.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: The Sony is hella expensive.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: but hella nice
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lother nods at Tenlorn.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: I hooked my pc up to my 37" Sony and it was impossible to use regularly
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lother Tech: Worth the money, by far
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: The Panasonic and the Samsung have 2,000,000:1 dynamic, and the Insignia has 10,000:1 dynamic
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: the desktop was too huge, the text was too small. but the way dvds and my PS3 games look is just sunning
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: 2 million?
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: seriously?
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: That's what the page says
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: I doubt that highly
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: It's parenthetical
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: well, its "dynamic" contrast
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: 30,000:1 normal
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: Not that I have any idea what the difference between normal and dynamic are
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: i think anything about 25k is good
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: above, rather
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: personally, I can't tell the diff above 10k
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: you can with pixels and trailing
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: the insignia lcd I saw looked nice, I'm leaning toward vizio for price
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: I suppose I could step it up and look at 1080p TVs, but honestly, I can't really tell the difference between 720 and 1080
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: there is a HUGE difference
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: Although I imagine the seXbox would look a little better.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: especially playing video games
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: Everything I read said that you only notice the difference in 50"+
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lother Tech: BluRay and the Ps3, you will notice a huge difference on 720 VS 1080
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: No PS3 :p
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: personally, I rather go with a slightly smaller 1080p vs larger 720
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: Gonf:  That was my original idea.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tenlorn is agreeing with that Lother person again...
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tenlorn is agreeing with that Gonf person again...
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: bigger isn't always better in terms of cost-efficiency
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: I was just blown away when I saw my friend's 1080p setup watching a blu-ray dvd
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: Neither Blu-ray nor PS3 are applicable to this situation, however.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: are you switching your cable/satellite to an hd box?
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: I don't plan on ever buying a blu-ray player, or a PS3.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: but with the next gen system, it'll make a difference
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: Already have the HD box.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: do you have a 360 or just a regular xbox?
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: This is for HD programing, and 360.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: you might get away with 720
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: if thats the case, I'm not sure if you would notice much a diff between 720 and 1080
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: definitely save yourself a lot of money
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: Yeah, the Bravia is $900
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: The Panasonic I was looking at is $600
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: Which translates directly into more money for extended warranty, HDMI hookups, etc.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: yeah, cables are expensive :/
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Filt Tech: Hah, HDMI is cheap.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: Although, I could maybe be persuaded to go with the Sharp Aquios 40" 1080p
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: you should be able to get the best HDMI cables (which you probably won't need if you gio 720) for about 80 bucks
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: sharp is no good in the long run
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arc Tech: don't buy those hdmi cables, they're a complete rip off
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Filt Tech: If you spend more than 20 dollars for an hdmi cable you are an idiot, no offense to those out there that did :)
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: I thought Sharp was like the best :p
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arc Tech: www.monoprice.com or some other website
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: panasonic or sony or bestbuy's insignia brand
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arc Tech: literally EXACT same picture
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: Insignia is reliable, then?
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, so you're injecting the ##, not matching what's already there
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mis
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: it's a strong band
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: I'm only worried about HDMI for the Xbox.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: brand, rather
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: I imagine HDMI would be a bit better than component.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: naturally
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: you can buy them a bit cheaper off tigerdirect
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: Maybe I should just get the damn 50" Insignia
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: 50" is overkill
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: Yeah, that was sort of a joke.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on the room, really
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: I kind of like the idea of the Panasonic, since it's not only the cheapest, but it has the highest contrast ratio
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: 50" would definitely look good in my bathroom
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: The room this is for is a pretty open living room area.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: The Panasonic is on mad ass sale, anyway.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: $899 -> $599
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darthsilas Tech: hay guys somtimes i send a msg bt ntn happens...so then i hav to do it twice-wat to do???
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: hey guys i've got a problem with my mushclient
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: it keeps saying "
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: Received option bytes :101,1
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: Received option bytes :101,1
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: Received option bytes :101,1
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: Darthsilas sometimes that happens when mudding from phone...
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: how do i turn it off?
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darthsilas Tech: can i disable it?
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: can you?
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: how do i turn it off? Please help me! Its really annoying
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darthsilas Tech: yeah and also with mt prob!!
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darthsilas Tech: to hell with this channel
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: help
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: help
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: talk on the newbie channel
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sca'th Naomii Tech: anyone know MUSHclient's option for "see how many bytes have been received from, or sent to, the world."
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: Naomi! I Think i got it!
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amigan Tech: World details -> General -> Info, not sure if there's a command for it though.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: =)
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sca'th Naomii beams a smile at Phunk.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: ever seen the telnet options test?
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: its a plugin
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: Just remove it, its a worthless plugin
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: what does it do, dark?
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: it prints an irritating line the whole time
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: I never saw it do anyhting useful, the spellup plugin uses it though. It works without it though
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Loi waves goodbye to Dsladev.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dsladev Tech: channel
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dsladev Tech: channel
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: trying to do something?
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dsladev Tech: so whats up?
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: sky
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: A two letter word.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dsladev Tech: lol true
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Usually means the opposite of down.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: charneus, circular definitions are not helpful
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dsladev Tech: why are u all here?
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murn Tech: We aren't.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: dslavdev i'm here cause i cant get javascript to work in my browser
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steevz Tech: Cause I'm at work.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: to understand recursion, first understand recursion
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: That hurt my head.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: majic, and then you will have understood recursion, while remaining in a constant state of understanding recursion
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: that's how you learn circular logic, too
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lacrimosa has a great understanding of recursion, thanks to all of her computer science classes she's not using.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude has a great understanding of not using Lacrimosa's classes thanks to her not using them.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dsladev Tech: so what progrcls
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dsladev Tech: so what programming do people do here
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: All kinds.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: bad stuff
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dsladev Tech: fine... then what languages do you guys use
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: All kinds.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dsladev Tech: charneus r u a helper?
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dsladev Tech: so do i need to be more specific?
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Did you not see me on the Newbie channel with the [Helper] flag?
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus blinks innocently.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: just ask your question, dsladev
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dsladev Tech: yes i did... your being vauge tho
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: if somebody knows, they'll answer
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Not really. You asked what languages do we use.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: If you're talking about the MUD, it's Lua based.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: I think he's just interested in general tech conversation
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dsladev Tech: nvm
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: If you're talking about players, everyone uses whatever language the like, some none at all.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft peers intently at Alt. Helpa Charneus.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: java, php, mostly
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: ..no, it's not
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dsladev Tech: i dont know what i want, 
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: There's perl, java, c+, c++, c#, vb, lua, etc.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus peers intently at Iron Duck Chuft.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: c+, huh?
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft sighs.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: c-! :P
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft aims the crosshairs..Alt. Helpa Charneus collapses in a pool of blood.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xantcha chuckles politely.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dsladev Tech: lol
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Not an Imm Erikson is holding out for C*=
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: The MUD is written in C... it has an embedded Lue implementation, and it also uses mySQL
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I didn't mean for that + in the first one. :P
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: There we go. Thanks, Xantcha! :P
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft nods at Xantcha and says, "I concur." Why didn't you?!
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dsladev Tech: hmm i was just wanting to talk about something i might be able to have some input in
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus still blames the vicodin.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: the rom source will give you a vague idea, although by now the aardwolf implementation is unrelated as far as laser can make it, it retains a similar look and feel
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: and the rom source is publically available, unlike the aardwolf source
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: just start a windows vs linux flame war and you can take part
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xantcha is agreeing with that Iron Duck Chuft person again...
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dsladev Tech: lol im trying to find a good llinxus to dowload
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: 0h 3
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: The Aardwolf source was written almost-exclusively by Lasher... none of the original ROM code remains.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: knoppix!
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: there isn't one
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: ubuntu 9 seems the least worst
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dsladev Tech: linux oops my bad
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: but I know nothing about lasher's actual code, and I've fiddled with the rom source for years :P
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: go for ubuntu, dsladev
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dsladev Tech: thats what i was thinking about
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: yeah, go for ubuntu and watch it fail to install soundcard drivers ;)
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dsladev Tech: i want to go home on my comp sooo badly so i can
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: oddly, windows 7 boots quicker than ubuntu 9
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dsladev Tech: ok then chuft what would you recommend
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I am just winding up ani
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I have a ubuntu install, too, shame the xp boot on tha machine is faster :P
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dsladev Tech: that sucks...
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: Chuft, tried 7 yet?
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: nope, xantcha
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dsladev Tech: but im just starting out and well they said ubuntu is good
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: after vista I am being a bit wary of new ms products, I'll get some beta from farky when I feel like trying it
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: I'm sufficiently impressed so far... a few minor things, but overall not bad on my hardware
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: still waiting for my non interim phenon 2 chip from him :P
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: PC World did a comparison with Vista. It's faster in all aspects, and it is much better than Vista.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dsladev Tech: so chuft do u know how to program in linux or idk unix?
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: But the full release isn't scheduled until later this year, or early next year.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Those with the RC will just wind up having to buy the actual product when it comes out.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: if you mean run gcc from a bash shell, yes, it's hardly complex :P
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: don't like it, they moved stuff around again
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Otherwise, their system will reboot itself every 2 hours starting March, 2010.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: how would we tell the difference?
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dsladev Tech: well seeing as i have no any idea whathat meant
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft peers intently at Alt. Helpa Charneus.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dsladev Tech: well i have no idea what that meant so yea
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus peers intently at Iron Duck Chuft.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dsladev Tech: oh well
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It's the same thing they apparently did with Vista.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dsladev Tech: why cant i peer
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: sounds fair to me
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: it's not designed as freeware :P
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Never said it wasn't fair.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: it's news to me, also, shrug
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I read it on Lifehacker, direct link to the Microsoft website post about it.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I never used vista anyway
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Those who have the beta and haven't updated to the RC will start getting 2 hour reboots in July.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dsladev Tech: well gotta go
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i think 2 hours is kind
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It is.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: should be every 30 minutes
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: could always just keep your system clock set back a year
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus grins evilly at Iron Duck Chuft.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i think you'll find they've thought of that
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: aye, more than likely ;)
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: at activation time
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: it used to be a fairly common workaround to such things
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you can't activate if your clock isn't right, and if you boot up and your clock reads before your activation date, it'll demand you reactivate immediately
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: no doubt there'll be hacks for it tho
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: can you activate without an internet connection?
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: yes, though i'm guessing the procedure makes the same checks
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Set the clock for the date you activated it? And I think so, Chuft. Not 100% sure on it, though.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: a lot of cracks I've seen require a phone activation code instead
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: not that I'd crack it, I'm just curious about such things
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: a good operating system is well worth buying
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Definitely.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: which is why i never bought vista
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I never bought Vista, too. Wouldn't have even dealt with it, except it came stock on this computer.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I've neither bought nor used vista..communal machies occasionally, but those hardly count
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: But Windows 7 passes Vista in many aspects. Everything Vista did wrong, Windows 7 does right.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I've never bought a stock computer either, other than laptops where one doesn't have much choice :P
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods at Iron Duck Chuft.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: they've ripped out an awful lot of legacy driver support though
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: don't expect it to work properly on a computer over 3 years old
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: grunt
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: will it work with the damn x-fi?
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: probably
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Actually, Farkyss, I read somewhere that Windows 7 can work pretty well on older computers. Again, Lifehacker.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: still a current model
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: Soundblaster released a driver for it
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: vista didn't for a long time, apparently
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you're wrong, charneus, depends wholly on the vendor
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: and ubuntu certainly doesn't :P
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: Intel, for instance, are not supporting it on anything 800 chipset or older
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: others are likely to follow suit
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: this board and chip is still pretty much bleeding edge anyway
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Farkyss: Not me. Lifehacker, then. ;)
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: am3 is still the newest of amd sockets afaik
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it -would- have worked ok on it, charn, cos i installed it, and it ran smoothly other than the lack of video driver
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: To put it in perspective, my computer is about 2.5 years old now... and 7 runs significantly faster than XP does
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft looks at Xantcha ponderingly.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: doubt it'll run my xp games quicker than xp ;-)
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: how much os tuning had you done with xp?
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus grins evilly at Feral Farkyss.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: xp is pretty swift and low footprint when well configured...despite all the blathering about bloatware ;)
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: Nothing significant... I think I manually turned on pagefiles on every physical hard drive I had, but I don't recall doing much else to it.  I think the biggest difference is that I went from 32->64bit
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: then found that 50% of your software doesn't work anymore?
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: aye, well, could just be as simple as a more intelligent installation algorithm, then
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: Not a single program I have hasn't worked
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: we stopped 64bit for that reason
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: heh, does zmud run in 64 bit?
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I recall being able to find 32 bit compiles of 4.62 back in the day
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: never tried it, though it probably will
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: Well Professional+ installations of 7 comes with a built-in XP virtualization kernel... if it won't run natively in XP, it loads a bit extra into memory and runs it, effectively in XP
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: good..I hate the idea of supporting zugg's shoddy coding by shelling out biannually for cmud
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: professional+? needs to be in ALL editions ffs
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: professional+ is where you -don't- need it
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I guess I know which version of windows 7 I'll be running, then :P
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: By MS' logic, they're selling you two OS' at that point
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: not if I already have an xpo licence for the box
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft goes, "Heh."
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: true... but that might factor into an "upgrade" license
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I have 3 xp licences
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: I don't know their corporate upgrade strategy... but it's companies they're targetting mostly I think... desktop installations are a dime a dozen by their evaluations I imagine... the big money is in volume licensing
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: aye
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: all very well, but it's the home market that requires the xp virtualisation
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: well, if they annoy me too much, I'll just use a company volume licence ;)
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: it's always an option if I find the licencing unfair :P
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: IBM went with (volume) business licensing with OS2 -- how did that work out
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: Alan Sugar said there'd never be any money in selling operating system software
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: bollocks
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: Sure there is
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: ms is founded on os profits :P
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: For MS it'll be easy... a two-stroke move
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Alan Sugar who?
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: Step 1: Release Windows 7
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: Step 2: Make the next version of Office require 7
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steevz Tech: 7 is a lot better then Vista.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: this was back in 1986ish when Alan Sugar was approached by Bill Gates to supply DOS with all his PCs
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: how would they inspire people to upgrade office?
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: I think Office actually makes them more money than Windows anymore
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steevz Tech: I only use 7 for gaming though, Linux owns M$
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: do i have to install windows to be able to use wine?
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: windows goes on every pc (almost) office doesn't
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft smirks at Steevz's saying.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steevz Tech: That's why you make the stab at MS and pirate all their software.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude wstabs MS and fails.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: actually, I don't
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steevz Tech: I will never pay for a microsoft product for the rest of my life.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: We don't advocate piracy
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: since in my experience their products are generally superior to the linux equivalents, outside of some specific tasks, I pay for the results
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: We don't talk about illegal things, either, Steevz. :)
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: it's called honesty, perhaps you linux fanboys should try some!
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steevz Tech: Okay.. sorrya.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nogs, Open office isn't really a patch of office 2007
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: though i'm waiting for office 2010 when they actually release what 2007 was supposed to be
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It's not?! Gasp!
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods at Feral Farkyss.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: however..also being honest, I'd imagine openoffice fills the needs of most home users ;)
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: it really does, chuft
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: i've used it for business too
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: chuft i use openoffice when it doesnt work
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: linux works, actually
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: when what does not work
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: clearly it'd depend on the business, too, but yeah
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steevz Tech: Linux is amazing, and so is the community behind it.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: yeah, that's because MS screwed up a lot of Office in 2007. It's unusable for those of us that grew up on old versions of Office (like 95-2000)
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steevz Tech: It has actually inspired me to learn computer science.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: Linux has advanced a lot over the years, but Microsoft still has market share, and will probably for a long time.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: linux has a place, I suppose, but I find the rabid ranters like that one over there do an excellent job of putting me off heavy usage ;)
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xyliz prefers to not pay the full price for microsoft products -- cheaper is better
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it's fine, lacrimosa, all the shortcuts work, and you soon get used to it
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: Office 2007 is pretty annoying
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: and to be honest, for home use, office 2007 is pretty cheap
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: so many people get so passionate about their choice of os without the slightest clue of how they really work..these people amuse me no end :P
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: The one place I /have/ to dog on Microsoft is their browser... I'm still vastly underwhelmed by IE... even in it's latest version... I much prefer FF, Chrome, or hell, even Opera.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: i prefer lynx to MSIE
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: linux and manchester united appear to have a similar amount of blind fanaticism associated with them :P
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: chuft i really like Beos
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: anipopo i use elinks.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xantcha rolls on the floor laughing at Trashbat! Anipopo's antics!
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i've tried chrome - it's awful, i've tried firefox, it's awful aside from the built in download manager, never used opera
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steevz Tech: I'm not really passionate about any OS.. I love trying new OS' all the time. My choice for gaming right now is Windows 7 and for all other usage is Fedora
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: ie8 to me is fine, and fast
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i cant get my firefox to work, and i cant get my email... but it lets me look up the weather
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steevz Tech: I use Seamonkey. Really fast.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if the new windows Office only worked on Windows 7, that may be a business opportunity for competitors
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: I suppose in order to get the view of Firefox that I have you'd have to understand my perspective.  I do web-based development on a daily basis... standards-adherence is key, the Firebug addon to Firefox is a veritable godsend from a development/debugging standpoint, and the Javascript execution engines in the latest variants of Chrome and Firefox are amazingly fast
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: I'm sitting at a Vista x64 box with open terminals to ubuntu and ms SBS and my websites, use the tools that work
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I don't know much about broswers, really, and avoid them when I can except for the most basic work, heh
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: ie serves it's purpose for me, though it does crash when I have too many instances running :P
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: Even with as much as I like Firefox though, for quick browsing I go for Chrome... it's light and responsive... but then, I'm a minimalist.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i've stuck firefox on an old windows 2000 box
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: as it's the most up to date browser that'll actually work on 2000 pro
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: why are you using 2k pro?
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it's what the license is for
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: heh..mebbe that's a time when you should use ubuntu, jim ;)
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: 2k pro was certainly a very...transitional nt :P
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: I've done web development, as well, Xantcha. Those are the same reasons I use Firefox as my main browser, as well as that  I have a mix of old machines around here, one using 2kpro
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xantcha chuckles politely.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: anyone know a good way to tell which fonts are monospace in MUSH?
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Usually those that have 'mono' in their font title.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: mononucleosis!
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude blinks innocently.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: For MUSHclient that constitutes a grand total of zero fonts.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Fonts usually depend on what's installed on your system.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: So with windows OS, I can download some more fonts and it will show in that MUSH list?
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It should.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: Great, thanks!
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: terminal, system, fixedsys, courier, lucidia console
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods at WarPigs.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Most fonts have mono in them if they're mono, but those listed are monospaced, too.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: sorry vampiredude phonecall
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: oh ok.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i have a phone.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GentooX pokes VampireDude in the ribs.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guy of Gisbourne Tech: you have 4
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: gentoox, my keyboard stops working when i startx
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: anyway thats xorg.conf problem
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: its not from the make.conf?
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guy of Gisbourne Tech: can anyone tell me how to change the command echo colour in mush client?
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: no i dont think so
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: k
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: coz if it is, youll have trouble using your kb in the commandline too
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gisbourne, game -> configure -> commands
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: top of that window
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guy of Gisbourne Tech: cheers
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ok
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Gisbourne: Go to Configurations - Input - Commands, then change the echo my output (first box) color.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Bah.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: Abelinc ask abelinc for a second opinion though. hes really good at things like that
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: but abelinc doesnt use linux
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Doesn't devalue his knowledge any. ;)
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ok fine, i'll ask him ,  abelinc, how do i make my keyboard work with xorg?
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GentooX nods at Alt. Helpa Charneus.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Abelinc learns by everyone else, too.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain Flygo Tech: use logarithms
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i cant pinpoint where coz im not much of an graphical person, just use enough to meet my needs but it should be somewhere around your inputdevice
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what happens when you run xmodmap?
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dsladev Tech: so who is still here
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude looks at Dsladev ponderingly.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GentooX pokes you in the ribs.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: gentoox hes not respondant
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: He asked you a question.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You failed to answer it.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: Oh..
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: sorry it musta scrolled past
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: [17 Jun 19:56:27] Abelinc Tech: what happens when you run xmodmap?
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: -bash: xmodmap :command not found
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: (installing now)
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: abelinc, when i run xmodmap, it says ' xmodmap: unable to open display ''    ' 
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: set the environment variable to what your xorg is attached to
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: abelinc, ?
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try setting your DISPLAY environment variable to localhost:10.0
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: abelinc unable to open display localhost:10.0
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: abelinc does x have to be running, to use this?
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, x should be running, but since keyboard in x doesn't work, you don't need to be typing it into an xterm...can use the consoles or even ssh in and type it remotely
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: abelinc ok... snafu... 1 computer.  and i can't change out of the x window once it starts
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, you should be able to switch between the 4 virtual consoles even with the keyboard issue...i've gotta run for a bit tho
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ok.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: well i can't.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: cant kill x w/ o killing power
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: iirc the command was something like ctrl-alt- one through four, or f1 through f4
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: that requires the keyboard
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I'm sorry, but I have to laugh my ass off at that one.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: its not a layout problem
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i think you input device is messed up
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: it might be, i'm on a netbook
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i love it, it has a huge monitor, and 4 hours of battery life
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: 4+ hours
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: 4+ hours only?! Weak.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: char, nah 4 hours without going into red/low power mode
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: not sure beyond that cause i plugged it in :/
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: sorry for coming in late, does the keyboard just not work in X?
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: gnidlohnad right
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: gnidlohnad if i start x i lose all keyboard use, including the keyboard
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: try asking on freenode, channel gentoo but its really not gentoo related, but perhaps you might be able to get a configuration from someone who uses the same model as you
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ok.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: I'm on debian so it's probably a bit different
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: its xorg related, so its not that different
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: most likely to do with your xorg.conf i would have thought
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: what have you got for you xorg.conf under keyboard, sorry if you've already said
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: nobody's answering there.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You're the one not answering. ;)
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: People ask you questions, and you ignore them.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: charneus, how so?
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: they said ask in freenode, and i asked, and nobody there answered, and then you troll me, charneus? why?
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: [17 Jun 20:21:26] Gnidlohnad Tech: what have you got for you xorg.conf under keyboard, sorry if you've already said
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: Wut?
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neftalia Tech: How do you cast spells in succession using MUSHclient?
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: same way you do any other way...  send the commands repeatedly.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: spellup 1 210 50 100
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neftalia Tech: Like spellups...
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go here: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=8780 and get that plugin
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neftalia Tech: can anyone explain how to creat spellup script in MUSH?
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "tech -h 10" and read what I wrote the last time you asked?
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neftalia Tech: Sorry bout that, i logged and probably  missed it.
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the guy that wrote MUSHclient itself wrote a spellup script specifically for Aardwolf
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neftalia Tech: How come it keeps saying "Unknown 'spellup' option given. See 'HELP SPELLS' for list"
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: try 'spellup help'
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: neftalia, have you fully installed the plugin from the website?
T1/r6/2009-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neftalia Tech: Yea. Its the actual plugin and 5 other files
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I do server support for a spam filtering company.
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: hah, mis
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: which zmud are you using guys?
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: which zmud/cmud version are you using guys?
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: how can i set cmud to use socks5?
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Does anyone use perl/php/python scripts with tintin++ ? I'm kinda unsure how to pipe the input into the scripts :P
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenacious Takanata Tech: any idea why firefox would suddenly refuse to load?
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fruckus Tech: reboot
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: addon crapped it out
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: It saw your secret stash of IE installations and got jealous
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fruckus Tech: see if it helps. Often does.
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenacious Takanata Tech: rebooting didn't help with the firefox thing.
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenacious Takanata Tech: i even uninstalled/reinstalled and it's still not loading.
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: what os?
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenacious Takanata Tech: vista
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: there's your problem
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenacious Takanata Tech: it was fine yesterday and BAM there it went.
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenacious Takanata Tech: i even removed all the personalisations and addons.
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenacious Takanata Tech: any ideas?
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenacious Takanata Tech: also can't install opera.
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: why not?
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenacious Takanata Tech: it's puking
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: puking?
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tenlorn pukes.
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenacious Takanata Tech: "Error 1606. Could not access network location %APPDATA%\"
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenacious Takanata Tech: that's what happens when i try to install opera
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: Try running the installer as Admin?
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenacious Takanata Tech: i have no idea what the heck happened to make this behave like this :(
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: anyone here familiar with VLC ?
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: Media player?
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: seraion yes, vlc media player?
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: Somewhat...
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: do you know how to get it to open a device?
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: "Open a device"?
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: yes?
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: What device exactly?
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: /dev/uvideo0
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: Give me a minute.
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: Have to install it. Had to do Windows 7 over.
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: Bah, I don't see it either.
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: just started running zmud on vista, and it doesn't seem to parse very fast
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: like if a huge block of text such as eq or score
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: any ideas to make it run more smoothly? is it a vid card thing?
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: with each new version of microsoft software, the software often runs slower -- perhaps to persuade customers to upgrade to faster hardware with extra ram
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: makes you wonder why, they have no stake in that
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arc Tech: or because there are new features?? just like basically every other piece of consumer software out there?
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: running it in winxp compatible mode
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: seems to have fixed it
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: Run it on Win7.
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: microsoft still screwed up with win7
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: they made a 32bit version, they should've have
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: if i have an extra window in zmud htf do i get it to detach and just float
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: its wanting to make a separate tab
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: any good lightweight media players out there nowadays?
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: i used to looooooooove winamp but its so overloaded with crap now
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i've heard vlc is good, but i cant get it to play all my media, so dunno
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: What doesn't work on VLC?
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: get an old version of winamp
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: im looking more for mp3's
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: vlc plays mp3s
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: video WMP is fine
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: VLC plays almost everything.
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: winamp is still the prog of choice
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: it just has so much crap now
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: like
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: i liked it when it just played mp3's and that was it
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: winamp plays almost everything if you're smart about getting the codecs..
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i wish it played midi
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: Winamp does play midi
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: really?
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: yeah
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: cool
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: does vlc have any playlist capabilities? i used to use it to watch movies but never mesed with much
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: For sure it does. Saves and loads playlists. :)
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: hmm vlc's playlist mode is nice
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: vlc, not just for freaky codec porn anymore!
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Anyone good with tintin++ scripting?
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I'm not sure if it's possible to make it output a column of text on the right, like an IRC /names list.
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: anyone know what the mushclient function for send to mud with no alias expansion is?
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: In a script, or just when you're making a trigger/alias in the menu?
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: script
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: send_to = 0
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Or "0"
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I think the first one, though
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: That's when you're defining an alias/trigger in a script.  that what you mean?
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: that's in the XML -- I can't for the life of me remember to set this by calling a lua function
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Oh, you mean with the AddAlias() function?
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You can do setAliasInfo(), or something like that.
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I'll find it, one sec.
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: SetAliasOption(<alias name>, send_to, 0)
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: no, I want to change the "vis" command but I need to send vis as part of the definition
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: After you create the vis alias, that'll do it.
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: One or both of the last two arguments might need to be strings, don't recall.
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Nods, all three arguments are strings.
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: in zmud ~vis
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: yes, I guess -- I was trying to work out how to get the "Send()" function to do it, but it doesn't take arguments
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: the best I have come up with is "DoAfterSpecial( 0 )" but these seems a bit daft
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Oh, I thought you meant for an alias or a trigger.
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I know what you mean now.
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You can do that to.  One sec.
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I normally write aliases with functions --  I don't like menus when I have an editor at hand :-)
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Air-Borne Anadorr Tech: what's the best notebook manufacturer with good quality and decent price ?
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Moleskine
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: all much the same
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: so the script should be something like this?   find / | grep car | grep my 
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: or does it need !/sh at the front?
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: anyone have any idea why my zmud is not scrolling smoothly? its like jerky
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: perhaps the scroll amount was changed
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: slow computer? slow on memory
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: low*
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: 2 gigs of ram, only 10% in use
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyranno Ruckus Tech: does anyone have a good cmud script resource?  quest and cp trackers and the like...
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: does anyone here think that REGEX es are kind of pointless?
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: No.
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: POINTLESS?!
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, regex is the most powerful tool
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: they are just more work!
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: No they're not.
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: Regex is exceedingly powerful
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Regex creates less work for you.
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: They can also do significantly more than a non-regex syntax
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're not more work, and they can match things which cannot be matched otherwise
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: why do ^Dude\.$ when you can just do Dude
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I wouldn't do either, I don't do dudes
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: regex transfers between coding language though
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: lol. You get what I mean
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Because ^Dude\.$ will only match Dude if it's at the start of the line, ends in a period, and is the end of the line.
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Dude would match EVERY instance of Dude, middle of a line or not.
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: exactly, but when will that ever happen? 
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Several times.
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It's the reason why people saying things on channels can set other people's triggers off.
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: lets say its a long line of message, A trigger will only fail if this happens: "A newb tells you, "blah blah blah"
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Hence the old tech :is quit from here. prank.
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: argh. Just seems pointless since no one really does that...
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: There are MANY reasons to use regex, too.
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: There are alternatives to regex for a lot of string-matching needs, but you need a regex syntax for quite a lot of applications... try matching a phone number or email address without a regex...
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: Yes, that does make sense, but I am only talking about using REGEX in MUDs, not in important stuff (lol).
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods at Xantcha.
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You need it in MUDs, too.
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: I had someone ask me once for a trigger that would gag a line if someone used a colorcode in barter... it's actually quite difficult WITH regex, it's nearly impossible without
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei *@*.com, with * as a wildcard? :
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei :P
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: Meh. Me noob. I don't know anymore...
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: leinei, that will match many things which are not valid email addreses
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when sending out a mass mailing, it helps to sanitize your list first
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: I can say as an imm there were no less than 25 triggers I ran that needed regex.
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Can you make a better regex for it?
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Well, I suppose there are a few symbols that couldn't be in addresses
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: absolutely leinei
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Borin: Not to mention that regex allows you to specify how many characters to match, too. You can't do that with a regular trigger.
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I recently had to sanitize a list of what people had entered as their email addresses
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: There's probably some email domains that allow all kinds of symbols in your email address.
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: domains are restricted for legal symbols
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: leinei, they'd need to conform to email standards, regardless of what the domain would want to allow
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Not in the domains themselves, in the user name
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are symbols which are not allowed to be in an email address, regardless of your username
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: g_&r!@somedomain.com  would probably work with quite of few of them.
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I can't imagine that there's much besides an @ symbol.
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: But there might be, shrugs
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can't imagine wrong
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Don't really know how they're standardized.
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: ! isn't a legal symbol... [a-zA-Z0-9_.] is the legal list, if I recall correctly... though if you use gmail, + is permissible, too
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try reading the RFCs
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Think I've seen them with &, too
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: But I might be wrong
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: I'm not sure, but I'd lean towards no on that one, as & is normally a reserved http token symbol
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: & isn't disallowed by any RFCs, but many systems wouldn't handle it
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: btw, in case you were wondering, the RFC 2822 is evidently implemented with the following regex:
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: (?:[a-z0-9!#$%&'*+/=?^_`{|}~-]+(?:\.[a-z0-9!#$%&'*+/=?^_`{|}~-]+)*|"(?:[\x01-\x08\x0b\x0c\x0e-\x1f\x21\x23-\x5b\x5d-\x7f]|\\[\x01-\x09\x0b\x0c\x0e-\x7f])*")?:(?:[a-z0-9](?:[a-z0-9-]*[a-z0-9])?\.)+[a-z0-9](?:[a-z0-9-]*[a-z0-9])?|\[(?:(?:25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|[01]?[0-9][0-9]?)\.){3}(?:25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|[01]?[0-9][0-9]?|[a-z0-9-]*[a-z0-9]:(?:[\x01-\x08\x0b\x0c\x0e-\x1f\x21-\x5a\x53-\x7f]|\\[\x01-\x09\x0b\x0c\x0e-\x7f])+)\])
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: holy...
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: And I'm not kidding :P
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: lol, a large portion of that is defining the regex for a legal IP address
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: nods
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Oh, bah, forgot to double the @ :P
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: heh
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mael Tech: is Seagate a decent brand of HD?
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: sure
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: Seagate, or Western Digital
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: Good brands.
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DarkSlayer Zeerus Tech: in my last 3 custom builds I have put nothing but seagates.. never have had a prob with them.. and they take a pretty good beating
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mael Tech: sweet thanks
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mael Tech: this POS Dell came with a Samsung 120gb that failed after 18 months
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mael Tech: but, i guess what can you expect for $400
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Diwafiven Tech: I can find the macro section, I just cant find out how to customize them. I dont know if I am explaining issue very good, srry.
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You're wanting to press a button and have something happen, right?
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Diwafiven Tech: yah, for the #pad, I normally had a setup on my zmud client that I liked
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: The numpad is actually under a different section.
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: game->configure->keypad
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Diwafiven Tech: kk, tyvm
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Should be self explanatory once you get in there :)
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Diwafiven Tech: heh, I am normally good with this sort of thing, but I would have never thought to look in config. thanx for help
T1/r6/2009-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei goes to Diwafiven: "No Problem!"
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Hmmm...
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Can someone tell me why: \s+\d+\)\s+(\w+)\s+(\w+)\s+\d+\s+\d+\s+[0-9.]\s+\d+\s+(\d+) doesn't match    1) Dave         Watchmen   14070    457       30.8  289       723?
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Never mind. Found it.
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: what's the command for save/ exit in linux Vi?
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: !wq ?  a looong time ago
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: me too
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: google vi menu :P
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: manual*
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei :x will save and exit, I believe.
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Not sure if there's a difference between that and :wq or not.
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: It's been way too long :P
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: nods :x is what I use
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: there's also a vi cheat sheet online too, which is helpful
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: anybody ever see any problems with using NTLM instead of Kerberos?
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: is there a function to clear all world output in MUSH?
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: There's a keypress for it...or are you specifically wanting a function?
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: a function
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: like GetWorld, etc
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: DeleteOuput()
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: thanks, seems to work
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei goes: "No Problem!"
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: not very familiar with LUA, but what does the underscore (_) in LUA do? is it like python's _?
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: how do i concatenate strings in lua?
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: ..
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: right, thanks :)
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I don't think the underscore actually does anything, btw.  It IS used as the first character (or sometimes first two) in a couple of default global variables, though, but that's all I can think of.
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: yeah, seen it used, i figured it acts as a placeholder, but then, i have zero knowledge of lua
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Memnarch Tech: how do I show echo in raw telnet?
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: roflol - http://www.microsoft.com/windows/internet-explorer/get-the-facts/browser-comparison.aspx
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: IE actually has gotten a lot better the past year or two.
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's like when your retarded older brother starts making his own sandwiches
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's pretty cool, but he's still a retard
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lother Tech: Thats a bit harsh Dagnir :)
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowseed Tech: frankly, with all the code being written for it, i wish we could use IE past 6. we're an all linux shop, and many of the companies we have to deal with just don't care about Firefox compatability, because it's not a "serious" browser.
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noro Tech: Since when?!
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowseed Tech: since they decided that they'd rather just support IE
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowseed Tech: if you're only going to support one browser, why not support the one "Everybody's Got?"
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: elinks?
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowseed Tech: no, Lynx of course
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: thief, that's my usual pro-linux punchline!
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowseed Tech: it's lame, and it hurts our business, but my boss hates windows and believes it shouldn't be used in a professional capacity. part of the reason why i like working here, honestly.
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowseed Tech: that and they let me mud while i'm working. heh
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: grump
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: just downloaded a demo of FEAR2, but the makers obviously expect me to upgrade to a widescreen monitor just to play it properly
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lother Tech: Its not worth it Farkyss, but thats just my opinion :)
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: not if they can't be arsed to have native 4:3 modes on it
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i don't mind having cut-scenes in widescreen mode, but the whole game?
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: graphics aren't exactly inspiring, either
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: the updated hl2 engine was better imho
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i want to know when we'll see hl2-episode 3
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: seems to have 'vanished'
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: tba
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: and they're redoing the redo of wolfenstein?
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: how do i get a tick counter on tintin++?
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: Does anyone know of a script or plugin or something for aard mush that counts how many mobs youve killed?
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: there is a exp_gain plugin
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sophus Tech: i don't know of a plugin, but that info can be found in your whois
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: Thanks
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: has anyone heard of the gain monitor scripty thing or something?
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avun Tech: Help! Mush has gone chinese on me.  Whenever I type, a little pop up appears and shows chinese chars, I have to copy and paste from notepad.  How do I turn it off?
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowseed Tech: you have to uninstall the foreign language packs in the OS, or restart the app, and possibly the computer. it's some combination of keystrokes and i haven't figured out the one to turn it back off yet.
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowseed Tech: controlpanel - regional settings
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowseed Tech: Yiminy the Berserker is here.
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yiminy Tech: i am?
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avun Tech: Got it.. alt+shift toggles it on and off.  Good thing I wasn't in battle. lol. 
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowseed Tech: oops... i copy/pasted everything and nuked myself off the mud. lol
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowseed Tech: i'd go ahead and uninstall the foreign language packs anyways, otherwise it'll keep happening and eventually make you very angry at a very bad time
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avun Tech: good idea, I think I will.  Thanks. 
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yiminy Tech: yes, but where am I?
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowseed Tech: in bard clan hall, sleeping on a velvet bench, more than likely.
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowseed Tech: it's where i was when i accidentally copy pasted the entire screen of information, go me
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yiminy Tech: oh.... *boggle*
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: in mush, how do i show a world window immediately when plugin is loaded?
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Uni Tech: I'm using the standard client downloaded from the Aardwolf website.  Is there a way to setup macros?
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: game->configure->macros
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Uni Tech: Thanks.
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: does anyone use kildclient?
T1/r6/2009-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: does anyone know how to set up a tick timer using KildClient?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: what's the name of the thing that bsd uses to get flash in firefox?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: not pkg_add but the actual name?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: hey guys, I recently started using REGEXES instead of triggers and I got a stupid question. How do I convert * or (*) from a normal trigger into a regex, I've tried .* and .+?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: I wondering if those were good?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: (.*) for a greedy evaluation (.*?) for a non-greedy evaluation
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: eeerr sorry which regex are you using?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: the Regexes in Zmud
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: sorry im using Perl Compatible Regular Expressions
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: hrm, let me check somethin here...
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: ah, alrigt
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: try alhena he is zmud user and makers of script
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadow of Arco Tech: She*
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: heh
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: opps
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: she
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Kisd Jspr Tech: Can anyone give me a basic guide on making a script to stop me from logging off when i "go into the void"
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrakPuppet Kongol Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Kisd Jspr Tech: I use mushclient
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrakPuppet Kongol Tech: what client are you using?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: which client
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrakPuppet Kongol Tech: okay thats easy
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: disable afk plugin
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setheroth Tech: i need help with my client
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and we have to guess the rest of the problem?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: perhaps they won't pay
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setheroth Tech: haha sorry uhm i download the muchclient from www.aardmud.org i install it but it throws a error and i dont know what to do
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Squeeky Kroz Tech: you'll have to tell us the error message if we're to help
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GentooX is agreeing with that Squeeky Kroz person again...
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setheroth Tech: ''windows has encountered a error and the program must be shut down''
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Squeeky Kroz Tech: do you have an antivirus installed?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setheroth Tech: yes i do
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Squeeky Kroz Tech: sounds to me like the file got broken either by a virus or something else. Try downloading it again and if it doesn't work you should check your computer
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setheroth Tech: iv tried it 3 times and if it is my pc i dont know what to do to fix the problem, is there a program that aardwolf needs to run?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Squeeky Kroz Tech: no, you can play it on telnet if you wish. The client just makes it easier
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setheroth Tech: i hate telnet isnt there other clients i can try
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: tinyfugue is a sort of telnet+ client
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Mud+Clients
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: tinyfugue is shit, no map support!
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Kisd Jspr Tech: Setheroth, I believe mushclient is free on the aard site
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setheroth Tech: yea but the one on aard wont work for sum reason
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setheroth Tech: i know maby i need a servise pack for it to run i formated my pc so it has hardly any programs
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: xp? if so, yeah, you want service pack 3
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setheroth Tech: yea got xp so it mite work with sirvise pack 3
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Kisd Jspr Tech: btw, does anyone here know a good website for windows blinds?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Stardock website
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Kisd Jspr Tech: what?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Kisd Jspr Tech: link me please?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: anyone knows how i would setup a trigger to compare any line received from the mud against a list ? 
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: using zmud
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Faulty Bot Elrast snickers softly.
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GentooX chuckles politely.
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: i can't set the trigger pattern to (*).. that causes an infinite loop
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: how would i go about matching any line?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: then learn how to use regexp, zmud supports perl syntax and whatnot
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: trigger match should be *
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: why would it be an infinite loop?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: try it
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: ooo
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GentooX goes ooOOooOOoo.
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: for PCRE its .* for greedy evaluation and .*? for non-greedy evaluation
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: greedy?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: well if you match any line then whatever visible output will trigger the trigger on itself
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: correct and that is what he wants
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: im using {roomchars} to activate a trigger to test every line received until {/roomchars} to get a list of mob names
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: im using {roomchars} to activate a trigger to test every line received until {/roomchars} to get a list of mob names
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: im using {roomchars} to activate a trigger to test every line received until {/roomchars} to get a list of mob names
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Great. No need to repeat it several times.
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: sry my client is gagging that
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Keep in mind it also captures player names. :)
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Not our fault.
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Kisd Jspr Tech: Charneus for preeeesident.
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: yes hence the apology
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Kisd Jspr Tech: nawwwwt! :D :D
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: greedy means to test the longest possible match
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: well the trigger will work if you dont produce any visible output
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: so then (*) is fine as long as it does some kind of internal computation without output
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: Dfury it's the client echo causing the loop?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thricicle Tech: anyone help me with setting up triggers? tell me  :)
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setheroth Tech: i finaly got my mushclient to work thanx for the help
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: i have a plugin, in MUSH, that opens a dummy world window on startup. how do i set the position of the window to always appear at a certain place in my MUSH window?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: save
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: save world details?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: move it and hit cntrl+s
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: which mush are you using. i know 4.40 saves the coordinates of all worlds on exit by default
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: 4.37
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: my spellup plugin seems to be able to save its position
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: make the dummy world active and save
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: i tried saving, doesnt seem to work
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: sorry i havent use 4.37
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: it always pops up on the top left corner
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: try to make dummy active and press ctrl-enter check the save on exit option
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: then try closing your mush
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: hmm tried it. always pops up on top left, same size. is there a way to configure onPluginInstall() or something?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: you can always opt to upgrade mush, 4.40 is better or you can download a portable client made by bast
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sparhawk, take a look at the aardinit plugin
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: where's that? on MUSHclient's website?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the whole point of aardinit is to resize/position the shipped plugins, so the functions to do that for any plugin world window would be shown there
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it's on your system
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have you tried typing "initaard"? if it's a stock plugin window, that'll attempt to put it into a logical position for the size of your screen
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I think aardinit only runs once, doesn't it?  Not once per connect, or per app open, but just once total, doesn't it?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: unless you amually type it
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: once unless you tell it to run
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei nods.
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: manually*
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then there's initaard, and initfull
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: goodnight tech
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: hang on, i don't think i have aardinit?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Nods, my bad.  Thought you were saying that was what was changing his window locations for him, despite saving.
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, I was saying if he wants to put into his plugin where he wants a window to be, the answer to doing that is in aardinit
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei nods.
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I use miniwindows nowadays, anyways.  I know how to tell it where to position those, at least :P
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: it isnt on my system? aardinit is a plugin right? i don't use the mushclient from aardwolf website btw
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, it's silly to not start with the MUSH from aard's site :P
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: yeah, i guess i'll have to port over some of those plugins
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you're going to do that, Sparhawk, I'd recommend getting the updated miniwindows version of them -- almost all, if not all, of them have been converted to miniwindow types.
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: i'll have a look at aardinit first, thanks
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Of course, you'd need to update your version of MUSH, too ;)
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: i don't really like miniwindows...lol :p
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Why's that?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: Leinei is it possible to have 5 miniwindows plugins located at the top and not overlap?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Sure, why not?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You can size them and place them wherever you want.
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You could even count how many are open, and have a variable placement, depending on how many of the other ones were open.
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Especially if they were all the same size.
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fiendish has corrected versions of the stock aardMUSH chat & bigmap plugins at http://not-porn.com/Aardwolf/MUSHclientNewVersions (as well as a miniwindow automap)
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: 0h
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: cool, i like the fiendish's bigmap plugin :)
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dorbor Tech: is there a shortkey for up and down? like the numpad is for cardinal directions?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowseed Tech: that's a client feature
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: whatever you want it to be...your client has settings for that
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dorbor Tech: ok ty
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you use MUSH, go to game -> configure -> keypad
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Anyone knows how to get a ralink usb wireless card working on a ppc build of debian?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: trurien, you must enable it in the kernel, and get yourself some pcmcia and usb support too?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I managed to watch the rt73 drivers download correctly, and the card was detected when I first plugged it in, it just couldn't get an IP.
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: It was plugged in before I downloaded the drivers off another connection, so.
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: PCMCIA support, you say, Vampiredude?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Which modules would those be? I have a hunch they're already loaded.
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: I don't think you need PCMCIA support... it's a USB device, no?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evro Tech: I'm having a problem with my client.  I'm running Atlantis on a mac, and frequently Aardwolf will ignore a line I send.
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evro Tech: I just set the client to echo locally typed stuff, and I can see that I am in fact sending lines.  the client also works for other muds.  any thoughts?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: any pattern to the ignored lines?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: scripts may be intercepting the lines before they're sent to Aard
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You're not in paging mode (e.g. reading a long helpfile) when it's happening, are you?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evro Tech: not at all, but one thing i do notice is that if i hit return before typing a line then it's much more likely to go throught
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evro Tech: this happens all the time, no matter what I'm typing.  I also have nothing set up client side for Aardwolf.
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evro Tech: ok i think i found the answer in the forums for my client
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evro Tech: it seems that disabling telnet keepalives for aardwolf fixes the problem
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evro Tech: so far so good
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evro Tech: here's the author of my client on the subject "That's technically a server bug, though, since if you send Telnet commands you're supposed to accept all the base Telnet commands in response. And if you get an IAC NOP sequence you are supposed to just use it as a keepalive and not feed it on through to let it muck up your parser."
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evro Tech: whats the preferred method of reporting a bug?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: depends on hte kind of bug
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, aard generally handles telnet negotiations fine...it has even started using custom telnet code 102 negotiations for some advanced scripting
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Check out 'help telopts' -- particularly the website that it mentions.
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: usually reports go on the bugs board
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Aard has customized telopt communication (not customized as far as format/protocol goes, but as to what they mean).
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Might have something to do with it.
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: unlikely
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Well, it's definitely the problem.  He just said it was.
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, in that that telopt really exists specifically for things like what Aard is using it for
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no he didn't
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he said he saw a posting on a forum with similar circumstances
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: What other telnet commands are sent besides the telopt 102 ones?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dozens
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: From Aard?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evro Tech: the custom telnet imp is exactly the problem
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Shrugs, wasn't aware of them.
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just using mccp involves telnet negotiations
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no it isn't, evro
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evro Tech: im reading the blog
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Nods, but if the client isn't aware of them, it should just eat them as non-negotiated communications.
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if the client isn't aware of them, then they're not sent
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evro Tech: well the author of my client says "it's probably a custom imp" and the aardwolf blog says "we use a custom imp"
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the client explicitly sends the new stuff
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evro Tech: so I'm going to let occam have this one
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, you just don't understand what the author of your client really said
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he didn't say that the MUD accepting optional code 102 sequences causes it
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evro Tech: "I'm not familiar with Aardwolf, but my guess here is that the server might have an issue similar to PennMUSH 1.7, where it sends Telnet commands but does not properly process incoming Telnet IAC NOP sequences. Try turning off Telnet keepalives entirely, see if that works.
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he said teh MUD not handling telnet keepalives causes symptoms like that
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: aardwolf makes use of a part of the spec that other places do not. that has nothing to do with a custom implementation of the spec
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evro Tech: thats not what i meant
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evro Tech: im going on the assumption that, since it uses a custom implementation, there's a bug in it
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Ah, I was interpreting the problem as outgoing (from an Aard perspective) NOP sequences, rather then incoming ones.  My bad.
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it doesn't necessarily use a custom implementation of anything
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: It's really no more "custom" than anything else that uses them is, Evro.
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: It still used the standard "WILL", "DO", "WONT", etc.
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: uses*
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evro Tech: on phone, sec pls
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: But nods, Evro, like they said, all that I said was wrong :P  Was misunderstanding the problem.
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: No idea how Aard handles NOP sequences that the client might send.
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I've had keepalives turned on with my client for the last 7 years without commands being eaten
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: for what it's worth, I don't know that telnet keepalive has ever worked for me
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: even before the telopt stuff was added
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: at least not worked in the sense that I want it to keep me online
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they won't keep your character online, and there's plenty of incidental traffic that there's no real reason to use keepalive
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I just didn't bother to notice that keepalive is on by default ;-)
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: It would negate the need for idle triggers
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: of course it would also make it more difficult to idle out
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's really intended to tell a NAT router that the connection is still there in the event that no text goes back and forth for a while...but that condition doesn't really happen
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evro Tech: back sorry.  yeah it's pretty minor now that I know what's causing the problem.  I have no idea why my client would barf when others wouldn't.
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what client?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evro Tech: Atlantis for the mac
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ah
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evro Tech: although the author has this line:
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evro Tech: "That's technically a server bug, though, since if you send Telnet commands you're supposed to accept all the base Telnet commands in response. And if you get an IAC NOP sequence you are supposed to just use it as a keepalive and not feed it on through to let it muck up your parser. So if the above fix does work, you may want someone to log it as a bug against the MUD codebase."
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: haven't used atlantis in a long time. looked like the author had stopped development
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evro Tech: he's back on it
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: good
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I want to see a better mac client
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and atlantis looked promising
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I think that'd only be an issue if the server was misrepresenting what types of telnet communications it supported, Evro.
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evro Tech: his line "that's technically a server bug" leads me to believe that it's something usually handled gracefully by other clients
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evro Tech: at least thats the language id use =p
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oh. is this the problem where atlantis was eating commands?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evro Tech: yep
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: huh
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: well it's good that there's a simple fix
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evro Tech: yeah, I'll see about bugging him in the forums on this, although he's working on some cool scripting stuff that I'd rather see implemented first =D
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I've never seen it happen on any other client though
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it sounds almost like it's not terminating the noop, and then when you type a command, the text from that command is being sent as the payload of the noop
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yeah
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evro Tech: is there any client id going on w aardwolf?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: not really. it does know what you tell it, but you can tell it anything and it doesn't react differently
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Wouldn't you get a "Sorry, Leinei, I don't understand you." message if that happened, though?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: leinei, it happens below the level that that message comes from
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Nods, I meant when the next command got sent.
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no leinei, because the command would be in a negotiation payload instead of text command
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: But I suppose it still might.
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: long before the Aardwolf command parser enters the picture
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei nods at you in agreement. 
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I had my client Id set to LOLHAX11!1! or something like that for a while
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: That's not exactly what they guy on the Atlantis forums was saying, though, I don't think.
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ID
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Well, it might be.  I suppose it'd depend on the sever.
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, fiendish...you do that when lasher had us testing connections to the devel server for the new socket code?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: otherwise he doesn't look at it
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I don't remember, did that echo it to us on login?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no, I don't think so
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the server doesn't care
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: he was looking at it manually
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evro Tech: oh, forgot to say thanks, folks =)  appreciate it.
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Uni Tech: are there any quest oriented websites?  i didn't see any on help www.
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrakPuppet Kongol Tech: theres maps
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrakPuppet Kongol Tech: questin aint no thang in aard really
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Uni Tech: yea i saw maps, but i was looking for something more along the lines of quest explanations
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Oh, like goals?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Uni Tech: yea
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrakPuppet Kongol Tech: AH
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you won't find publin AQ walkthroughs, no
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Uni Tech: ah.
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I think that would sort of go against the spirit of goals and AQs. :)
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they wouldn't be legal...
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Uni Tech: Makes sense.
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: clans often have private walkthrough stashes for their members, though
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: since so few humans play text muds, there is no financial incentive to publish books of quest goals walkthroughs for even the popular muds
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You pat Xyliz on her head.
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: spot on as always, xyliz
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if only tangentially relevant
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: So few humans? What are you implying??
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we're aliens...and that's how we roll
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Infocom games were popular -- several books were published on walkthroughs and maps of the Infocom games
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: that seems to imply that more humans played Zork than (say) the most populat mud listed on TMS
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it doesn't imply anything
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: (popular)
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: infer ?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setheroth Tech: i finaly got my client to work but i have no idea whats going on
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: What do you mean?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setheroth Tech: its alot dif then my phone these to much screens and stuf
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: uhh
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setheroth Tech: uhm on the top theres aardwolf, map, stats, chats and big map what does all that do?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: clarify "on the top"
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "initaard"
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he means the tabs at the top of the Aard MUSHclient
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you click one of them, it puts the focus on that window/brings it to the front
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setheroth Tech: tats cool everthing is in one scrrem exept chats and big map
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: setheroth, I take it you just installed the aardwolf mushclient package?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setheroth Tech: yea have been using my phone
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: heh
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setheroth Tech: why you ask
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: just so you know, there are two reasonably significant bugs in the plugins that are installed with the package. you should replace them with the ones from http://not-porn.com/Aardwolf if you haven't already
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the "MUSHclient plugins for Aardwolf" section
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setheroth Tech: what do thay do?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: fix the bugs
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and the bigmap plugin has a bug that causes it to not update properly and also to show the wrong thing if the map updates while you're inside a zone
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setheroth Tech: i see is there a way to get the chats on this screen?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: not in that plugin
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you'd need to switch to a miniwindow version
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setheroth Tech: how do i do that
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: which i don't think has been made
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't think anyone made one
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what do you mean on this screen?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I keep putting off my goal of making both the bigmap and chat capture miniwindows
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: he probably means in one world 
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: chats echo on & chats echo off determine whether you see chats in the main window or not
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: setheroth, what you can do is go to the Window menu and select "Cascade" which will make all the windows visible at once. then you can rearrange them as you want
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so that they don't overlap and get hidden
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setheroth Tech: one screen i mean i got only maps and stats one the screen and every time i switch to chats i must tipe initaard to get it all in one screen again
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: initaard just organizes them in a fashion that makes sense for your monitor's resolution....you shouldn't be typing that more than once in a blue moon
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if something goes in front of your main window, just click the Aardwolf tab at the top
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setheroth Tech: i do but then it throws the map and stats away 
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no it doesn't
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're just behind it
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setheroth Tech: it does it just give me one big screen again
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it doesn't
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it puts the big window on top
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: everything else is still there
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setheroth Tech: now how do i get the others back
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: click their tab
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setheroth Tech: i mean in one screen
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as fiendish said, move them around to where they all fit
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can safely resize all except map and bigmap
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setheroth Tech: cool i got the chats in now to
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Fiendish - plugins checked out on Windows 7 yet?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't know
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it shouldn't matter
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: I'll let you know any issues
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, let gammon know any issues ;-)
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: feel free to let me know anything you want
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setheroth Tech: i got all those plugins with the client i insalled
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setheroth Tech: installed
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you're supposed to replace the ones that got installed with the installer
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: even though you have them, still install Fiendish's
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: or rather, that got intsalled by the installer
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: his are there to fix bugs in the stock ones
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you may have to rename the ones on my server though. I forget if I made the names different. Let me check.
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setheroth Tech: oh ok il get them its the plugins on how to pay< then plugins i think there are 7
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what is "how to pay"?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setheroth Tech: its a option on www.aardwolf.com
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the how to play link...
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, whewn you click on the play aard link, it suggests downloading that MUSHclient, which includes standard plugins
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oh
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: those plugins are great, except 2 of them had bugs, which Fiendish has corrected
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: right
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setheroth Tech: yea yea so i must download all those
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: go to www.not-porn.com/Aardwolf and read the MUSHclient section
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, they're already there...just download the ones that Fiendish has
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setheroth Tech: ok whcih ones must i download
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setheroth Tech: which]
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: both of them
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setheroth Tech: im sorry for being stuped but how do i know which ones fiendihs has?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: seth, go to the website he keeps telling you to go to
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the ones he has are on his web page, which he's been pointing out repeatedly
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setheroth Tech: im sorry i didnt notice the website name im not use to my pc
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setheroth Tech: ok one more question will thay make the client look different
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setheroth Tech: ok thanx for the help
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setheroth Tech: im sorry to bother again but when i go on the page i keep getting this error "The XML page cannot be displayed 
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the page says to right click and save as
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: your web browser just gets confused by Gammon's malformed xml
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setheroth Tech: but whene i go on it it tels me xml input cannot view using xsl style sheets i cant open the site
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I know. that's why you need to RIGHT CLICK and then choose SAVE AS
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hold on while I modify the html on the first page to make it more clear
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hit the back button until you're on the page with the list of plugins...
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setheroth Tech: ok done that
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: now instead of clicking on the link to the plugin, use the right-side mouse button to click on it...that should bring up a menu with choices
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hold on
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I may need to fix something
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: at least in linux my browser doesn't correctly get the right file
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, yeah, it's giving an html page
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setheroth Tech: ok saved them now i can install them?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hang on, there was a server glitch ;-)
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's fixed now
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: save them again
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setheroth Tech: from the page?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: reload the page first
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and then do it
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: sorry for the confusion. 
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setheroth Tech: ok did it what now
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: open them in notepad just to make sure that there is valid stuff in them. 
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and not html
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setheroth Tech: a hell load of weird stuf
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does it have stuff like "<!-- MuClient version 4.13 -->"?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I wish he'd switch to valid xml
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so that this problem doesn't happen
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setheroth Tech: yea between all the weird numbers and letters and stuf
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ok, take those two files and put them in youur mushclient install directory inside worlds/plugins/Aardwolf
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there should be two files already there with the same names. replace them.
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setheroth Tech: should i have first went offline? coz i did it
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no need. just go to File->plugins... and then select the bigmap and chat capture plugins and then click Reinstall
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: or you can quit and relaunch mushclient
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setheroth Tech: quit and relaunch hahah thank you very much for your help 
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no problem
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: here's something I don't get
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://www.sennheiserusa.com/private_headphones_wireless-headphones_009926
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: at the bottom they say "Compatible with LCD and Plasma televisions."
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: how would they NOT be?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: some people might be asking them for compatibility
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: I take it the windows clipboard has a limit on size of stuff you copy to it?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: It's just 201 lines that I'm copying, and it's giving me access violations.
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: shouldn't be
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: certainly not 201 lines
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: 2GB i think
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Nods, didn't think so.
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I've copy/pasted hundreds of megs
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Copying from windows grep.  If I don't copy all 201 lines, it won't give me the errors (often causing the app to shut down).  But if I copy all of them, it gives me access violations because of the address it's trying to write to.
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: windows grep could be doing something stupid
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Possibly.  I can copy up to about 175 lines in it, it looks like.
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: that grep from gnu?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's a shareware windows port
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://www.wingrep.com/
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: wingrep from wingrep.com 
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Madcatz nods at Ol' Dirty Fiendish.
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I use it sometimes. I don't like that it counts the files before searching. waste of time
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: You can turn off that option.  I do.
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ah
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: At least in my version, you can.
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: It's doing it consistently, though.  No big deal, though, I can copy/paste it in two chunks.
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does it let you pipe to a file?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: I think there's command line functionality.  I just use the graphical interface, though.
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Don't think it lets you do it just with that.
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i use some of these win im in windows http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: pretty handy,  i cant live without sed and grep
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just to have command line unix tools, I'd imagine cygwin would include the basics
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it does
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: wingrep is nice only because of the gui presentation
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: cygwin have it.  i used it before gnuwin32
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: easily see what files match and which parts of them
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's one thing I missed about bbedit when going to windows ;-)
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: I could use some help with MUSHClient on Windows 7. Deep kimchi on plugins.
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: starting with vista stuff...did you right-click the shortcut and say run as admin?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Nope
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: brb while I try that
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Well running as admin atleast let me get the chats plug in back. I think... this would be the test.
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Yes, that worked. Now bigmap.
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are you running Fiendish's bigmap?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if not, go to http://www.not-porn.com/Aardwolf, scroll to the MUSHclient part
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's corrected versions of bigmap and chats plugins, that fix bugs in the originals
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Right I am using the plugins from http://www.not-porn.com/Aardwolf, that's where I got tangled in the new windows security layer I am unfamiliar with.
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, k
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, starting with vista, programs aren't allowed to modify files in their own directory (they can't write to 'program files' folder)
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: bigmap is giving me an error on import: Line  344: Unexpected end-of-file inside [CDATA[ definition (problem in this file)
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, try looking at the text of the file...does the last line you see have </muclient>?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Ack. Overwrote it. Chat was what I wanted most to get back. I was hoping Fiendish' fixes resolved a bigmap problem I was having. But I will wander in the wilderness awhile to get back where I was. Thanks, that was most helpfil!
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: er, helpful
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: is there a way to 'turn off' big map when running?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: The bigmap or the regular automap?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: bigmap
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You still want it to come up when your on a continent, but not running, though?
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: automatically, that is.
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: much like maprun turned off
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Nods, don't think there's a built-in option to do that.  You can disable the plugin completely (and see it whenever you want by typing 'bigmap', or you can have it hide while you're not on a continent, but don't think you can do what you want to, without editing it.
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: typing 'bigmap auto off' will stop it from automatically jumping up, though
T1/r7/2009-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: yup, it doesnt jump up already, just that i don't want it to display while im running
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: does anyone use a tablet pc?
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: as a tool, not as a toy :D
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: does anyone here use glibc?
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: offering 1,000,000 gold to whomever can get my sound card up and running?
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: what's wrong with it
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: farkyss, its improperly configured
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humpton Tech: got the volume turned up?
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: how so
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: was it working previously?
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: farkyss in that i switched operating systems, and mangled the default configs
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: yes.
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: what os now?
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: gentoo :(
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: can't help you
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i know :(
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: linux and hardware support don't go together
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i miss bsd but i couldnt figure out the wifi
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: it supported everything but the configuration was so weird
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: maybe if i slept more it'd be easier ...
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: probably
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: write yourself a new driver tomorrow
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: the driver works fine.
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i just mangled a setting somewhere... 
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if it's not working, then it can't be ;-)
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: and i didnt sleep yet.... so im not sure what i need to change ^_^
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: whats not working? what settings?
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i know what you need to change - the operating system
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: my sound card settings
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: go back to xp and all will work
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: farkyss not possible
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: why not
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: you said mangled your default configs
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: farkyss cause its oem without install medium
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: gentoox yep
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: does that mean, it was working before
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: alsa and i arent gettinjg along :(
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: so grab yourself an instal medium
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: gentoo yep it worked under bsd, but when i switched to you it stopped
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: farkyss, a windows install medium, for a netbook, with no cdrom?
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: sounds expensive
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: not got an external dvdrw for it?
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: it should be hda intel audio or snd intel audio , or emu10 something k
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: then maybe its not working in the first place the moment you switched to gentoo
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: gentoo, yes, exactly.
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: also on kernel?
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: its in kernel as *
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: see, this is why netbooks are naff
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: alsa conf?
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: alsaconf?
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: it returns no hits, because its in kernel as * ?
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: gentoo, maybe i need to unmute the sound card?
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: gentoox, ??? is there a way to try that?
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: there's a funny mute in Gentoo by default - same in SuSE
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: use gamix, alsamixer doesn't really cut it most of the time. gamix does the job right
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: timeghost, emerging
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: if gamix doesn't see the card, then it's a driver problem. If it does, just unmute and raise volume on all channels
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: timeghost... you realize if it works.... you won't really need the 1 mil gold, but it still goes to you :)
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: try Timeghost i didnt really have to unmute mine
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: try lspci -v | grep -i audio to get your card info
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: sound card info*
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: GentooX - depends there. I had to unmute mine on the PC but not the laptop for example (tho with SuSE) - and when I had to unmute, alsamixer didn't work. gamix worked in all cases where I saw this happen
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: my professor had the same problem - again, was solved with gamix, but not alsamixer and not kmix
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: hmn, gamix doesnt seem to have an unmute button?
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: so there must be something magical about gamix - I always suggest it as a try at least :)
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: cool
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: VD - raise the volume levels first
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: dont every do that :)
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: mute is under the volume controls
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: it's not labelled - just a button in between each pair of sliders
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: rigth above the "Sync" button
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: AH
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: do i want it impressed or released?
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: pressed in is "unmute" - i.e. active
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: id usually try both
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GentooX grins evilly.
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: if you have the volume controls in gamix, the sound card is certainly registered, and unless the driver is flaky (doubtful, if you say it's on-board Intel) it'll work fine
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: it seems to be that i cant unmute it, however
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: well, that's weird indeed - have you tried raising the volume level?
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: there used to be a command using amixer i think?
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: on Master?
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: yes the volume slides up and down just fine
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i think i need the amixer to turn the master ON
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: gamix should do that already
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: BUT - you have to quit it and restart applications using /dev/sound or so to check
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: it's not very pretty as a GUI backend, but I always found it did the job well
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: hmn
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i was trying ' beep '
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ah
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: youtube works now
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowseed Tech: umm... doesn't "beep" usually come from your pc speaker?
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bulwark Timeghost shows his approval by clapping his hands together.
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: you did it timeghost!!! you and your gamix!
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: clapping
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: congrats VD :) happy to hear it works for you too :)
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: timeghost, summon me or goto me to get your reward!
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: but you gotta hurry, its almost my quest time
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: heh, I create gold if I need it - if you really want to share your gold, give a small donation to our Helpers for example :)
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: hmn...
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: on my side, I'm happy things worked ;)
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: no helpers online :-s
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: timeghost, i saw that ad about helper how does one qualify?
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: it's all in "help advisor" and "help helper" :)
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: anyone running zmud on windows 7? can't start the damn thing up
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also, i can't seem to to change the permissions for all my old folders. it works on some, but not all
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: do you care what theyr'e set to?
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: well, if i can't execute the stuff in my download folder, it's a big problem
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Is there a way to do a recursive full control for anybody?
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so any ideas how to convince win 7 to let me access my files and maybe cut the administrative rights bs?
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: I assume you're using RC1?
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir nods.
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: I had a similar issue with MUSHclient not letting me use any additional addons... it's a permissions bug that they hope to work out in either RC2 or the initial release.
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: I had to end up reinstalling the entire oS
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ok. any idea why zmud runs just fine from my old prog files folder, but fails to do so from the system prog files?
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: still messing with the user rights with win 7
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: can't apply the user rights recursively for some reason. already took the ownership tho
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: There is a user, called "TrustedInstaller" with high permissions than Administrator.
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i gave my user all rights to a folder. however, the settings weren't applied to all the subfolders and files for some reason
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: some of them are accessible tho
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoranth Tech: does anyone play this on a cell? if so, how?
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's various ways to play on a cell...midpssh, pocketputty, mxit, etc
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoranth Tech: will check em out..tx
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i use pocketputty with screen and tf
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: IMO, it's best to use the cell to connect to a machine that's running an actual client, such as tinyfugue
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: pocketputty?
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it was a pain to map ctrl and alt buttons on the hard kb tho
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: and best to use screen because the host machine can keep you logged on
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: some people also use the cell to remote desktop to a PC running GUI clients like zmud/mush
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and i almost never use it, because it just sucks
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: took the effort so i know i CAN do it
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoranth Tech: I want to quest from work, but all sockets are locked down
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's something to get a quest in every now & then, not for general use
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoranth Tech: trying to find a way to qyest..
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: even 443?
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoranth Tech: didnt try that one
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoranth Tech: all the 4k's were tho
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try 23
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: get your router to forward 443 to your local box running screen and ssh in that way
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can use 23 to connect directly to aard, not just the 4ks
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i wish i could do that on my phone, but it says ' file content type not permitted' 
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoranth Tech: I work a big fortune 100 co..no way I would get router access
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoranth Tech: does MUSHclient use ssh? i tried that and plan ole telnet with no luck
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Are you connected from work now?
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoranth Tech: nope
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: anyone have atreidess' prac gag script?
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: guess not
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus SMACKS Im your Huckleberry upside the head, wonder what he did.
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sca'th Naomii Tech: any tt++ buffs ?
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cartman if he's around
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sca'th Naomii Tech: ya, he's afk. i get him later =)
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: how do i get mush to show tags? tags on is not doing it
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods at Monsieur Dorleac.
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Mis.
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Turn off the plugins that gag it.
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: ahhhh.... raw mush dont gag it right?
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It shouldn't, anyway.
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: on tags, is there a way to know where area am i in?
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Only room, not area.
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: awww thanks
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dmg Tech: anyone know how to capture colour codes in zmud so they appear when "cutting" and "pasting" text from the mud?
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkknowing Tech: I have a script for that on mush, perhaps you could look and see if there is a way to mod it for zmud
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dmg Tech: I know there is way to do it, had it set up before...but I killed all my settings
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Anyone have any luck flashing a net10 Nokia 1600?
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: mumble mutter crappy american hosting mumble mutter
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: partially ignorant user + opting for the cheapest host possible = cockup waiting to happen
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it's a good start if you have a website hosted, to be able to log in
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: downloading at 700k/s. I remember when CDRoms were slower than that
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they were never slower than 700k/s...they were 150K/s...big K ;-)
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: modern distinction
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1x CDROM is 150 kilobytes/sec = 1200 kbps
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not modern distinction...you cannot do math without units
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I thought it was always K anyway.
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: next you'll be telling us that a megabyte is 1000K
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I saw it as Kb vs KB
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: But that's a matter of convention.
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: regardless of whether you consider a meg to be 1000 or 1024, CDROMs were never slower than 700 kilobits per second
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: they were slower than 700 kilobytes per second
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which network throughput is not measured in...
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yup, it used to be 150kbps for 1x right?
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it's what i'm downloading at
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Sorry, 150KB/s.
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: network is measured in bits...local data access in bytes
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: Steam is showing it in KB
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: so complain to them :-)
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, so you just failed in your initial statement :P
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you started the argument on convention
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you made a false statement
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: don't blame me for you butting in :-0
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't put false statements on public channels :P
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien snorts.
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i'm afraid that's not one of the channel rules
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't want someone to butt in and correct you, then keep it to ftalk, clan, or echo :P
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: otherwise, it's not butting in, it's participating in the public discussion :-)
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you can have it back, i need to go afk for a bit
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You snicker softly.
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: please clean up the channel after you're done with it
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: last time you left a hell of a mess
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Honestly, Abelinc fart farkyss
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You fart at him.  Boy, you are sick.
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, damn...second time I did that today
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Honestly, Abelinc needs to learn to tell the difference between an ass-terisk and a colon
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: My bigmap never loads. It loads, but it does not load the map
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: How can I fix this? I have ardmush 4.4
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: I can't find the plugin so i can try to reload it
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Phalae peers around herself intently.
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: Nevermind! I got it!!!!!!!!!!
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: So I'm having an issue with my PS3. Anyone wanna take a stab?
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: Guess not...
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: anyone ran zmud and cmud on vista? just curious of cmud runs smoother
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I'd say so.
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: zmud seems to parse slower on vista than it did on xp
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Real Heafmo Tech: can anyone tell me which fonts characters are a set amount of width
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Monospaced ones.
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Real Heafmo Tech: sounds about right =]
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: open up wordpad, type iiiiiiiiii on one line, and wwwwwwwwww on another line...any font that has them line up is a set width/monospaced
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Real Heafmo Tech: so the answer is no?
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are over 30,000 fonts...do you want a list?!?!
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Real Heafmo nods.
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Real Heafmo Tech: plz =]
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we don't know what fonts are on your system
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: ...
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: usuals are monaco, times, courier, and anything with mono in the name
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Real Heafmo Tech: lol, well just a few, all i know is lucida console, i just want a bit more variety
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Real Heafmo Tech: Thank you abelinc =]
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: anything with system in the name, or terminal in the name
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Real Heafmo Tech: fantastic!
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Real Heafmo hugs you. 
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: http://www.cfcl.com/vlb/h/fontmono.html
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus THWAPS The Real Heafmo for being a moron.
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: p
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sca'th Naomii Tech: isn't it possible to download the iwuvaard database (so you don't have to go to the website everytime you use it) ?
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Quite.
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: it is
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sca'th Naomii Tech: is that the "Remote IWuvAard Database Access" page. (im a database idiot) =)
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: but you wont have their nifty UI
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sca'th Naomii Tech: aye, but i have grep =)
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd just need to understand what you're seeing ;-)
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sca'th Naomii Tech: i'd have to learn some mysql stuff wouldn't i ?
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: its not in text format naomii
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: you need to dump them first
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd need to know some way to access an SQL database...you can export it, but there's lots of different fields, not just what you normally see
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volans Tech: the longer version is to save each page as
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Volans.
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: aye aye
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sca'th Naomii Tech: so i need mysql client to log into the site and "dump" it ?
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can dump it without any client
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to the remote access page...look down at where it tells you where the server is...go to the web page of that server
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: but volans after that, you need to reconstruct the server functions
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can tell it to export to excel if you want
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sca'th Naomii Tech: oo phpmyadmin at least im familiar with this =)
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, it's got everything you need just in the web interface of the database server
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: true, there is no use of that login functionality anymore
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sca'th Naomii Tech: thanks everyone =), i really just wanted the mobile part of the database (campaigns with only room names *mutter)
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exorcist Jerome Tech: heh my client screws up. I have trigger function "process_prompt" not found errors. I relogged already b ut it doesnt disappear. Any suggestions?
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exorcist Jerome Tech: I had this once before a year ago, but I forgot...
T1/r7/2009-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: reinstall the plugin that screw up
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: is there a maximum size to a variable in zmud?
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: I think 16-bit.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: ah ok
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: thx
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Then again, are you talking about number of items?
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: hmm was asking about how many items u can add using %additem yes
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It /might/ be 16-bit for that. Either way, you probably won't ever meet that limit.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: hmm thats true
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: keep multiplying by two until you get an error?
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: haha its ok just needed a rough estimate
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: is there a quick way to tell a mob's keyword? aka the word used to reference the mob when u look mob
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: anyone using bast modified spellup plugin?
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Li'l Bunny Zhalt Tech: What's the port for rsync again ?
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Does anyone have a Spellup plugin for MUSH i don't much care for gammon's and Onitsu's is just a little odd for me
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: im using bast's pretty much like gammons but it keeps getting me errors
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what are the errors?
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: A nil value was passed to find_spellsn
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: when tried to do spellup block 68 121
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: hmm, interesting, that use to work
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: I think Gammon's heartbeat times detriments my spellup time when i have the wish, i also hate the recast issues
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: basts spellup is faster than gammons imho
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: my version doesn't use a spellup timer, it only uses a timer for displaying
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i c. however i always reinstall basts version on reconnect :)
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Better yet, can someone tell me how to make one so that it includes skills, spells, and everything like spellup command. I also want it to cast on wearoff, but prevent the issues of recasting too many times and blowing my mana
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I think I fixed the reconnect thing in one of the new versions, but I haven't released it yet, hopefully in the next week
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i wanna be a tester :)
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Ill test it for you bast, i need something better than this
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: also skills like chameleon form tried to cast when fighting a mob
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: http://code.google.com/p/bastmush/source/browse/trunk/Bast/worlds/plugins/Aardwolf/Aardwolf_Spellups.xml
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: always has the latest version checked in
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: you checked it in just now?
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: i haven't checked in a fix for the spell blocker, but it should have a fix for the reconnect stuff
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Spellblocker?
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: still does "Timer function "display_timer" not found or had a previous error" want me to display on paste bin the some sort of debug info?
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yeah, that would be good
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you can make spells depend on other spells, so you can't cast protection good unless inertial barrier is off, etc..
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: http://www.pastebin.ca/1471152
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: What is broadcast_state.xml?
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Isn't that basically playind_detector?
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: playing*
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: your miniwindows are great, i dumped mine. lol
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: i have a capture window but cant see any mud output its all one grey  window, how do i restore this ?
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: in zmud...
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Anyone have any idea why cmud/zmud won't run on my Vista (UAC is off, and tried 'run as admin') But all other clients i try will? As soon as i click the icon or anything i get 'Z/cMud(depends which i try) has stopped working; please wait while windows searches for a sloution'?
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: write-protected character.mud files may cause difficulties
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: gentoox, just checked in a new version of the spellup plugin
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: does tt++ have ansi colors? does anyone know?
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: a student of mine wants to programming and demand i teach syntax instead of programming logic and design :o
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zombie Imm Xantcha Tech: Syntax is necessary, obviously, but if you don't know what to DO with it, you won't do much
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rejected Oladon Tech: Tell him Google is great for that kind of thing.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: students these days :)
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: programming logic and design courses are boring -- especially when thoe courses teach about Babbage and Hollerith and the Usa Census and IBM and other mostlty irrelevant information
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: errr, thats not even problem solving
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: history goes to reading assignment
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: but the historical pundits want to stick that (in)to the courses
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i just made them do essays on it and im done, off to logic and design
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: teaching "programming logic" without first teaching some "programming syntax" is likely annoying to students as they are (yet) unable to apply that (hi-brow) "theory" in a *practical* programming context (even if hypothetical)
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Air-Borne Anadorr Tech: you can write algorithms on sheet of paper, as it's usually done :)
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Air-Borne Anadorr Tech: much more annoying is teaching some old  programming languages imho
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: eh? is that what you think xyliz? what you are saying is learning a language its not programming at all
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rejected Oladon Tech: An "old" programming language is the most powerful language to ever exist, Anadorr...
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: Anadorr
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: anadorr! ooo
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Air-Borne Anadorr Tech: but the least people will really use it in their future life
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: there is a vast difference between hypothetical algorithms and the actual pragmatic program-code
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: programming basics is like teaching a man to catch fish Anadorr
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rejected Oladon rapidly nods twice at GentooX, in complete agreement.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: Xyliz programming evolves from the concepts of computation
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: teaching them the root is key to not get lost on newer high tech programming languages
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Air-Borne Anadorr Tech: GentooX, making some port or HDD programming using ASM is much more complicated than making a 'hello, world!' prog :)
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: again thats not programming anadorr its merely use of programming language
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Complex doesn't affect principles in the least, Anadorr.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: there're many paradigms to programming i believe...
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: think lisp, prolog, etc etc
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: but the basics /foundation is still the same
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sparhawk nods at GentooX.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: problem solving ang program design
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i may not know the language but i know how to solve the problem
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Air-Borne Anadorr Tech: that's called Algorythm Theory :)
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: teaching students hypothetical algorithms without sufficient program-syntax is going to result in students erronously-assuming syntactical constructs that are not available in the programming languages -- that is likely to damage the student's learning abilities when they are later told "but you cannot do that in this programming language"
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: there is english xyliz, and pseudo codes
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: xyliz really?  i doubt it
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what difference does syntax make, there aren't 2 programming languages that have the same syntax
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: different languages make you think in different ways though
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zombie Imm Xantcha Tech: Xyliz, it really depends upon the background... I wasn't allowed to take my algorithms class until I'd had already had a "basic programming" class... and we coupled most of our data structures/algorithms with required code examples.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: but ideas like generality and code-reusability etc are always present
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: Sparhawk but your problem solving approach is still the same
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: i feel that it is good programming practice that one needs to teach
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: nod Sparhawk
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Nods, I think there was some programming pre-reqs for the algorithms class I took, even though everything was pseudo-code
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: GentooX, you should have the Master Foo chronicles as required reading for your students.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arc Tech: learn both at once?
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arc Tech: that's the way we did it at least :p
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: noted Oladon
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Actually, everyone who hasn't read them all should take a break now and do so. :P
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GentooX grins evilly.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: i don't think syntax is that important, I regularly go back and forth between perl, python, lua, and shell scripting with little problem, but I learned with pseudocode and applied that to everything else.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arc Tech: i don't think it's important either
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon noddles in total agreement at Bast.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: my point exactly :)
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Sleep is, though. Goodnight :P
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: in higher level programming courses, they don't teach the language syntax. they teach the concepts and expect you to pick it up yourself
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: Goodnight Oladon
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: starting from algorithms course, syntax should not be an issue
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: its language independent too
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: yeah learning syntax is easier than learning the concepts i feel
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arc Tech: the point is syntax doesn't matter though
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: and applying the concepts properly is an art in itself
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arc nods.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: when learning 8086 machine language syntax, i was pseudo-coding some project in anticipation -- when i later learned what the (inadequate) actual 8086 was actually able to do and no do, the pseudo-coding became "poison", retrospective burnout resulted, and the pseudo-coding and the project were trashed -- what a fricken waste-of-time
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: i agree, assembly is a pain
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i beg to differ
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: but that doesn't mean throw out all the other useful concepts u learn
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arc Tech: that's not syntax though
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: that's a language problem, not a syntax problem
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: its just constructor loops with jmps ifs with cmps come on
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: constructing*
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: blank-slate students must not be filled with "garbage" produced by erronous assumptions -- erasing a bad assumption is often extremely hard
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: your pseudo code is still there xyliz
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: or maybe its the problem :)
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: So stop making assumptions ;)
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: oladon, stop talking in your sleep :)
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: sleeptalker
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Sleep coding is more fun :P
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i used to wake up from dreaming of a solution
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon nods.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Text dreams are generally my favorite :P
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: sorry, what are those?
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Is there any way to tansfer aliases from MUSH to tt++?
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the form of pseudo-theory and pseudo-code are *heavily dependent* on the pragmatic and the ability of available syntax to provide practical context and closure. -- "no much use being hypothetical about the impractical"  -- students are initially without the hindsight of teachers -- teachers must not assume that student are guided by that absent hindsight
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: if somebody sees me, theyll think i have mental problem for laughing out loud
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: anyone know why in zmud when i add 0 to other values it just throws the 0 in insted of adding it?
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: DOn't add 0 then *inno*
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Are you adding or accidentally multiplying?
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the variable is text and not number
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Grr!, Why can't i run c/zmud!?!
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: is registration current
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: because your a mush user and z(c)mud dont want anything to do with you
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: cmud/zmud auto-reregistration requires internet access
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: did you or the system put a read-only flags somewhere on zmud/cmud files
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: Which OS are you running?
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: vista
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The All Darkknowing shivers uncomfortably.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: Err. It would be that "TrustedInstaller" permissions error.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: is the firewall/virus-checkers permitting cmud/zmud to run
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nixie Tech: speaking of crappy os'es anyone testing windows 7?
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: I heard Charneus did and liked it
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: I've been running Win7 RC1 for a while now and I only have one issue,
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: nixie you dont like windows 7... its a VERY nice os imho
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Seraion: how do i rid myself of it?
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: Cant right now. IT's a bug. I heard Vista RC1 might've had a fix for it.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nixie Tech: didnt say i dont like... was actuallu anxious to see if it was any good
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: I mean SP1
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nixie Tech: i was hoping it would be "xp" to vista's "me" if you see what im saying
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: windows finally did something right! now lets hope they dont mess it up between the beta and live
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: Same thing I"m hoping.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nixie Tech: im about due for a new computer and REALY dont want vista on it
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: does win7 requires extensive upgrades in hardware/cpu/ram to be able to run properly
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: Win7 requires 1GB RAM, 1GHz Proc and a DVD drive
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: I got it for christmas, i didn't want vista either
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: just installed w7. not too bad if you turn some things off
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zombie Imm Xantcha Tech: Actually....
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Linux is pretty flexible, and you can put what you want in it, take out what you don't. If you know how.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: is win7 released or beta?
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: currently at rc
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nixie Tech: linux BLEH
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zombie Imm Xantcha Tech: Win7 has been successfully run on a Pentium2 with 96Mb of RAM
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: Win7 is on RC1, I think is getting released on Halloween
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Heh, why bleh :P
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nixie Tech: i like games and actually doin crap.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: w7 is broken up between 32 and 64 bit like xp/vista right
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: yup
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir nods at HelperMan Hadar.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zombie Imm Xantcha Tech: Yes, officially Win7 64bit requires 2Gb RAM
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: too bad there's no dx10 support for win 7
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I have to say I don't like doing crap, I like doing work.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: no dx10?
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: But yeah, games support is still patchy on Linux.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Considering they're all written for Windows mostly.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: vista exclusive
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: my labtop has 4g ram -.- so ya
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nixie Tech: patchy? patchy is faaaar to generous
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: that's only until the release, right?
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: With dosbox you can play most of the best games on Linux.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nixie Tech: i've yet to see a linux box run UT2k4... let alone unreal3
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: win 7 is going to get dx11 tho
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: In my own opinion, of course, anything else would probably not be a good game, just a game that has good graphics :P
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: first ut has good linux support
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nixie Tech: yeah about 10 years too late
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Nixie: I don't play those, and I'm still happy, but I think there are some pretty good FPS's with Linux support.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: huh? always had it and the first ut is the best
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nixie Tech: halo?
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: perhaps the Geeks and nerds are holding Linux back, preventing the dummies from dummyfying Linux
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I wouldn't quite put it that way, Xyliz.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: has anyone tried Ubuntu 9.04?
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I'm running it at the moment, though only as a box for terminal-based stuff.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steevz Tech: Ubuntu 9.04 is pretty good.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: The laptop I've got it on has a broken monitor :P
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steevz Tech: Just installed Fedora 11.. which I am liking.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Honestly, I don't know much about the newer computer games.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steevz Tech: btw, UT2k4 works perfect on my linux box.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: Heh, I was wondering what to put on my PS3 after I put a new HD in it... seeing as how I just about lost everything on it.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steevz Tech: I have the windows dvd and still got it working natively.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I do know there are a lot of issues with games for people who aren't used to Linux, though.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nixie Tech: question..... on average how many distros do u linux guys go through.... you know... over the life of your computer?
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steevz Tech: I'm fairly new to linux and I've been through maybe 7?
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nixie Tech: rofl
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steevz Tech: Some of my favorites were Arch Linux and Gentoo..
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steevz Tech: but they both broke on me..
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I think the main issue is that it's troublesome to learn stuff you wouldn't have to bother with in Windows... but when you do need that extra knowledge about your system, it does come in handy.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steevz Tech: It's more of a hobby for me.. I enjoy learning about it.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Though of course this doesn't exclude Windows users from knowing a lot about their systems, and sharing information.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steevz Tech: I've mastered Windows.. and I hate M$, so I figured it was time to move on.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yeah, going through distros sometimes is a choice, it's not always because we have to. But at least there is a choice.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steevz Tech: Only use windows to game.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: It's not like you're stuck only with whatever Microsoft wants to give you and what others can pirate for you.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steevz Tech: only newer games that wine doesn't run well.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nixie Tech: i find it's usually a choice made because of functionallity issues... this disttro cant do "x" download distros till i find one that can...
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all i386 distros have identical functionality...the only difference is what comes prepackaged
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Microsoft offers courses on becoming a Windows expert or something -- Linux does not do that
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: Guess they are promotion self-learning?
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zombie Imm Xantcha Tech: I'm pretty sure there is... isn't there like Red Hat certification or something?
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does it ship with gnome, KDE, or other...which do you prefer...if it ships with one and you prefer another, you just install that component
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: -promoting
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: you want to know something super-technical in Linux not in the Man files (such as the assembler templates and structures and tables) --> Linux geeks say "read the source code" <-- Linux lacks relevant documentation even though there is a seeming deluge of documentation 
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: linux only lacks docs for the uninitiated
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go read the docs for the assembler templates in the Windows kernel
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oops, that's right, you can't
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for non-distro-specific linux certs, there's linux+, LPIC, LPIC-2
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: "(Abelinc Tech): linux only lacks docs for the uninitiatedt" <-- and that (the inability of Linux to recruit numerous programmers from the teaming masses) explains part of the reason that Linux is unable to defeat Microsoft
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why would they want to defeat microsoft?
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: Well at least expand their fanbase.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: why would they want teeming masses of idiots?
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: "Microsoft in a evil empire"
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and I wasn't saying that "docs for the initiated" are all that linux lacks...I was saying that linux's docs are plentiful for all except the uninitiated
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steevz Tech: Never support OpenSUSE.. that is Microsoft trying to get into the Linux world.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as in, the docs are there, you just haven't gotten off your ass long enough to go get/read them
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You pat Steevz on his head.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nixie Tech: why bother reading docs for a lame os though, realy?
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, from the person that thought that different distros had different functionality
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nixie Tech: bottom line:what can "lunix" do that windows can't (and windows will do it easier)?
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Because ... documentation is written for others who wish to use products to read it, and not all operating systems are rich enough to offer telephone or email support that you can yell at until things get solved hopefully.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: anyone know how to make a trigger work using the battle prompt but make it so it does not fire everytime it sees the battle prompt? I am trying to make it fire after every other time it sees it
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Operating systems supported by companies rich enough, that is.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rampagne, use a conditional variable that you toggle each time it fires
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: trying to make an autocast trigger? :p
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if a neophyte Linux programmer requires to look at Linux source code to reverse engineer templates and structures, then Linux is grossly under-documented in that area 
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you never have to look at source code to reverse engineer...stop making stuff up to pretend that you have a point, as usual, xyliz
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nixie Tech: besides the point.... just because your your os is devo'd by a bunch of kids who barely passed computer science on high school, and another is professionaly developed doesnt make the amature one better
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Abelinc: damn, I was going to agree with him. But source code is tricky to be fair.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Nixie: you can make all the personal attacks that you want.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: source code is tricky...that's why that's not where you go
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh for the record, I don't like linux, and don't run it on any systems, personally or professionally
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Name me a Windows version where anti-virus is a courtesy rather than a necessity.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: And where you get to dial security levels up or down depending on your personal needs..
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nixie Tech: there are viruses for ALL os's... 
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: THey were trying with "Windows Defender" but I'll be damned if that prog ever solved anything.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heheheheh
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Customise, given sufficient knowledge, the OS to work the way you need it to work.. and know that it's not going to result in a big lawsuit or a cease and desist.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rykor Tech: heh, where would all you silly "other OS" people be without Windows holding your hand through the first years of the GUI, carefully showing you what an OS is supposed to be, so later in life you could all gripe about what its now... pathetic.. and yes im a MicroWhore... *shrug
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nixie Tech: and if linux and osx would ever get more than 10% market share you'd notice a increase in malware there
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Rykor: I may have started with Windows, and become reasonably proficient using it, but that doesn't mean I have to like it all my life... if you want to call yourself a microwhore, it's OK. I can't stop you there.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: in the late 20th century, Windows and Dos programmers were greatly assisted by book(s) such as "The Programmers guide to the PC" which was a book of tables and templates for use by C and Assembler programmers -- not sure whether anything similar exists yet for Linux
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nixie Tech: no dont get me wrong... windows is lame too, just much less so.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we'd NEVER be looking to Windows for what an OS is supposed to be...that's why Windows has feature-parity with MacOSX 5 years prior to any MS release :P
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Nixie: the market share argument is old, I don't think it even applies.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nixie Tech: oh no?
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: MacOs caters to a small captive market
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I think the main issue really where security is concerned is PEBKAC.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I think it's entirely possible to be a Windows user and still not have any virus hit you for six.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there is no captive market for OSX, xyliz...again, gotta get your head out of your backside
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nixie Tech: so if you wanted to infect people with a irl virus you would drop in in a field in kansas... or manhattan island?
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yes, provided enough visitors passed that area - the analogy really doesn't hold there, Nixie. Linux computers are networked to Windows computers all over the world, but the Windows viruses don't affect them, they just pass harmlessly through..
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Dropping a virus into an unpopulated field doesn't mean it won't eventually evolve and infect people far away through other carriers :P
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: Let's keep MGS4 in mind.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I didn't play that. What was the story? :P
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: authors of Windows viruses seems to know exactly how to strike at and infect Windows computers, as though somebody in microsoft were supplying the howto information, perhaps even providing the backdoors
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nixie Tech: yeah bad analogy... lemme correct...
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nixie Tech: so if you want to infect a buch of PEOPLE with a a virus... would you inject deep sea fish with it?
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: That's Microsoft's problem, if there were such a person :)
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Well, if you wanted the people to feel the effect of the virus on the deep sea fish, you could inject those...
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Like if you brought down Google's servers by exploiting some kernel vulnerability, I'm pretty sure Windows, Mac OS X, and any other open source OS user who searched with Google would be equally affected
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: Hell, everyone panicked when Google went down for 15 minutes.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nixie Tech: lol.... lets do that to "Bing"
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: how do you disable a specific trigger without doing it manually?
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: What a terrible name.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nixie Tech: bing?
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Can anyone recommend a good client with a GUI but tintin style alias/trigger/ etc?
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: I know the could've came up with something better.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nixie Tech: zmud?
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: my comp won't run c/zmud
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Tintin like commands?
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nixie Tech: realy darkk?
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Yes, really
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I liked Pueblo for Windows before I switched to Linux. That's why I picked up tintin++ quickly.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nixie Tech: what are you running?
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: vista
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nixie Tech: yea pueblo doesnt have gui though...
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: You have a spare comp, DK?
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nixie Tech: run as admin?
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: nope
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Well, it's not Pueblo for Windows, it's just Pueblo, but it stopped being updated a while ago and I can't be sure it's available for Vista.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Tried
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Tried as admin that is
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nixie Tech: someone at sourceforge picked up pueble a a while back
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: pueblo?
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Nixie: it has a GUI. tintin++ doesn't have a GUI. Anything with a menu bar has a GUI :P
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nixie Tech: yep....
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: heheh, another Vista nightmare story -- perhaps upgrade from Vista to Xp
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nixie Tech: i think he means gui for the aliases and stuff in which case its still command line (last time i checked)
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Well, anything above an ncurses/dos-style interface would be GUI.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Nixie: yeah, if you want buttons and stuff for shortcuts then you're probably stuck there.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I'm still amazed Vista didn't provide a telnet client.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nixie Tech: nothin wrong with #alias (x) (y;z;a) in my book
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: I like the maps and such in seperate windows but i like how to add aliases command line in tintin
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I mean Pueblo doesn't have buttons for macros and whatever the way Mush would have.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: For tintin compatible commands you would want Pueblo, that's all I know. There should be other clients out there, but that was the only one I tried..
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Mush I don't think is compatible to tintin scripts, right?
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nixie Tech: you could try portal.... its pretty easy... it's almost structured like tintin scripting... sorta
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nixie Tech: but almost noone here uses it, so if you want complex spellup scripts and such you'll basically be working from scratch
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaradcel Tech: Anyone using MUSHclient care to show me how to use the scripts?
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: jardacel: What do you mean?
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaradcel Tech: well I'm trying to get two things done. a) Whenever I get disarmed to automatically pick up the weapon and rearm, and a spellup script to buff people with
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaradcel Tech: but erm... I'm crap at looking at these menues =\
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: trigger = * disarms you and sends your * flying = get @wielded/n dual @wielded
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nixie Tech: yeah.... mush is like that... it's considerably different from the tintin school of thought... if your used to zmud/pueblo/tintin you've got to relearn some things
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaradcel Tech: heh I don't even know anything about zmud (though I did use it to play aard long ago) so =\ 
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the lhs of the screen contains an array of at least 230 buttons, not all of them used, with room for at least 170 more buttons 
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: i just told you exactly what to do type cntrl + shift + 8 to put that in and type cntrl + shift + 7 and add variable wielded = [weapon name]
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaradcel Tech: Ahh ok thanks dark. Trying it now
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaradcel Tech: darkknowing: Managed to get the first one, the second one when I try to save the variable, it says I can't because "variables must start with ..." and a bunch of text. It's wielded = [weapon name] correct?
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nixie Tech: since when?
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nixie Tech: anyway to "sort" it? (stats/ac etc...)?
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: how do you make a variable cumulative. Example everytime i gain gold i want to keep adding the amount in the variable
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: what client ?
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: how do you make a variable cumulative. Example everytime i gain gold i want to keep adding the amount in the variabletech zmud
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: how do you make a variable cumulative. Example everytime i gain gold i want to keep adding the amount in the variabletech zmudtech oops
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: zmud
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: varname=%eval(@varname+%1)
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: thank you much
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Finally got your answer eh Rampagne? :)
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: thats just the general idea but you should be able to get something working from that
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: %d is used to numbers right?
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: it won't add numbers past the comma. 5,456 +5,456 is giving me 10
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Probably because you're not capturing it as a number.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: %d does not caputre 1,000.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: %n will.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: BigRichard Rampagne beams a smile at Alt. Helpa Charneus.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: ^You get %n gold
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: it is just adding %n%n%n%n%n to the variable
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: gold_donated=%eval(@gold_donated+ %n)
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Because you're not capturing the %n. Try ^You get (%n) gold.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: And change the %n in the +%n to +%1.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: it works , thank you but i don't understand why %1 is able to interpret %n
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You use pattern matching in the trigger. You use parameters such as %1, %2, %3, etc, to display what the pattern matching captures.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Read up on the documentation for making triggers and such.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: as always, thank you for the help charneus :)
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r7/2009-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: If i do math.floor ([local variable] / 3.000) why does it continue to output 0 decimal places?
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: has anyone used the upgrade method for windows 7 beta to RC instead of non modifying the iso format method
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Travis I have been using Windows 7 since Beta, and have endured all of the updates. Tell me a quick way to check the current version and I'll let you know if it has gone up to RC.
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: umm i think anything over 7100 is the RC
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: ... It'll tell you that it's the RC.
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: im putting the RC on my laptop now but im not looking forward to having to fresh format my desktop
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: wanted to get a 64bit windows 7 on my laptop anyway
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: No, it does not seem to have gone there through regular update from Beta. Still seems to be a 7000 build
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: It won't, either.
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: RC is being treated as a new OS instead of just an update.
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: you are gunna have to download the RC iso from microsoft and reinstall it
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: thats why i was asking about the upgrade
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Well that's one way to correct all my messed up folder permisions ...
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Have to run MUSHClient as admin, too lazy to figure out why I can't load plugins as user.
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: there is also a method out there that will allow you to upgrade from the beta to the RC and not lose any of your installed programs and things like that, but im not to confident about it, i guess ill just back everything i care about up and test it
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: ummm just do a proporties on mush and choose always run as admin and that should allow mush to change files
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: protip: Anything you "care about" on a beta OS should have been backed up long ago
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: lol the beta feels more solid than vista ever did
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Right Everything I "care" about is on the machine running the VM with the beta in it...
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I'll disagree, but kay =p
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: heh, the beta has crashed on me once, vista would constantly crash on me
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I've never personally witnesed a vista crash, including the beta =p
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: vista crashed on me when it tried to write on more than my 4 gigs of ram
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: so you close your eyes while using Vista?
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: There are crashy OSes, and then there are bloaty buggy OSes :P
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: smartassery
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: No me either. The appearance of Vista doesn't thrill me, but no crash problems, and I love the state restoration when it updates itself.
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nitrana Tech: Does anyone know of a Gain Reporter than works for zmud?
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Atreidess', but he doesn't have his site up anymore.
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrakPuppet Kongol Tech: can someone give me the basic info about linux
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Basic info?
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: It's an OS.  done.
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evro Tech: go download the ubuntu live cd
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evro Tech: google "ubuntu live cd"
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Eww, ubuntu...
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrakPuppet Kongol Tech: lol i mean major differences between microsoft based softwares and linux
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evro Tech: its a great intro to linux
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Kongol: we're not doing your compsci homework =)
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Well, one is designed for Windows, and the other is designed for Linux.
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrakPuppet Kongol Tech: damn :P
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: m$'s oem licensing laws are a bit crap
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and spelling their name with $ will show them for sure
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if we all worked to m$'s rules, if your motherboard goes wrong and you replace it, you have to buy a new OS
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you realized it just now?
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: in practice they can't (either practically, or legally) enforce that
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i thought they'd already ammended that rule, as they no longer use it on their phone activation system
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i guess they only ammended it for here
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: after all, when does, in the process of an upgrade, a pc become a new pc?
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: when you buy it from somebody other than dcs
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: think it would be fairest to consider the case as being the determining factor, or case + one other component
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, so you consider the least-computer-like part of the computer to "be" the computer?
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the least likely to be changed in a lifetime of organic upgrades
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: if you change the case, it's a fair assumption that the reason is because you have completely changed the working components
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: which therefore makes it a new pc
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: chuft, that's an amazing leap
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft nogs at Tigernuts. Freaks!
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so someone who has a facelift is a new person...as opposed to someone who has a sex change operation
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: no, it's not..it's what most people do so they can flog the old machine secondhand
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: there'll always be flaws in the method, but it's a far fairer method than what they currently use
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: have you a better idea?
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: well..it's based on my personal experience with building pcs and whatnot..been doing it that way myself a long time
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the current method is hella lot fairer
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the current method breaches sales of goods act
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You pat Tigernuts on his head.
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: your motherboard fails, you replace it, according to microsoft you need to buy a new OS/Office
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: and since he runs a pc business, he's likely to know :P
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's not true in the least
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if your exhaust breaks on your car, the dvla don't insist you re-register the car
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: heh..just need to reactivate it..that's what happened when my dodgy dcs board blew
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: but if you paint your car a different colour, it must be re-registered.
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: making up microsoft's policy doesn't make it actually microsoft's policy, tiger
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ahh, but according to microsoft's own rules, a new motherboard constitutes a new pc, and therefore you can't re-use your license
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: like i said, i'm pretty sure they don't/can't enforce it, but it's what it says on their website
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no it doesn't
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: Generally, you can upgrade/replace all of the hardware components on the PC and maintain the original Windows desktop operating system OEM license with the exception of an upgrade or replacement of the motherboard (an upgrade/replacement of the motherboard is considered a new PC).
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: http://www.microsoft.com/malaysia/genuine/myths/
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so up your shaft
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You roll on the floor, laughing hysterically.
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you typically do business in malaysia?
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: irrelevant, it was from their US site
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You pat Tigernuts on his head.
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: shouldn't abelinc be pupping, not squabbling like a girl?
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'd be extremely hard for me to be pupping
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: oh, not even sitting, useful
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and heading to work now :-)
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: also, note that there is a difference on that site between Open License and OEM License.
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: replacing the motherboard only constitutes a new computer if it is an OEM license.  If you built your own, you would be safe from that.  Replacing with identical motherboards per manufacturer's warranty would also be safe.
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: http://oem.microsoft.com/script/contentPage.aspx?pageid=552846
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: uk site version of the same document, same rules, so abe can kiss my arse
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: certainly enough of it
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: it's nice that we conform to some sort of common courtesy here.
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I just insult everybody equally
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: which is polite from a certain point of view
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alok Tech: i am using zmud 7.21 and would like to change the background color. anyone know how?
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sophus Tech: alok, go to view, preferences, colors
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sophus Tech: that should work
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alok Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steevz Tech: Is there a way to make ctrl+C copy in MUSHclient?
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: is it not working?
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: if you have the aardlcient it already has a plugin that does it
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steevz Tech: Never does.. I have to rightclick>copy
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: oh highlight then enter
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steevz Tech: Nope.
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: Steevz Tech: Nope.
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: should be irc like
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Highlight and enter doesn't work for me, but Cntrl +c and Cntrl+v works
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steevz Tech: Hmm.. well, highlight then enter didn't work in MUSHclient.
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steevz Tech: ctrl+V works..
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steevz Tech: ctrl+c doesn't work.
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: hmmm highlight enter then ctrl+v works for me
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: you need the plugin called copy_putput
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: file->global preferences, uncheck the box that says "make all typing go to command line" (or something like that)
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steevz Tech: Oh, that would explain it.
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: That'll let you use cntrl+c
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steevz Tech: Thanks Madcatz!
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steevz Tech: Works perfect now.
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Madcatz goes: "No Problem!"
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: that explains :)
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steevz Tech: Does anyone here use ArchLinux?
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: I tried it once, it was marginally less annoying then gentoo :p
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steevz Tech: lol.. I'm just having an issue with starting KDE after installing it from the repos. =\
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: what kind of problem?
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brunhilde Tech: does anyone know what the default syntax for forcing a literal expression in Mushclient?  For example, how to override mushclient seeing a semi-colon as a break
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: '/'
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: or you can make ; show up by typing;;
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: 182 mb aard log.. need to start a new log :P
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: My 'chats' window seems to have stopped catching the chats (using MUSHclient). Anyone have a remedy.
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: is the plugin enabled?
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: I keep trying to use my prompt as a trigger but when i go to test it or whatever it is showing me something different. Do i need to do something with brackets?
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: my video quality a bit low using ffdshow with vlc on windows 7 for some reason. any recommendations?
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: lol windows 7
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: oh, suggestion
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: nm
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Li'l Bunny Zhalt Tech: I have no problems using Mplayer and Windows 7.
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Li'l Bunny Zhalt Tech: As for VLC & ffdshow. Never quite got that to work.. but then I only ever used the beta. Won't touch the RC with a 10foot pole.
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: haven't installed a codec pack in ages
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so. what's a good lightweight codec pack?
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Li'l Bunny Zhalt Tech: Mplayer does not need external codec packs. It comes with it's own. Give that a go. Can play almost about everything.
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBob Tech: combined community codec pack
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: vlc should do that, but the quality was way better using xp with the same software and filters
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: I'm trying to connect to the mud with my cell phone. Does anyone know what the http proxy is?
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: do you use one?
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: For the program I have installed on my cell phone, the only way to access the internet is to use the http proxy, but how would I go about figuring out what to use there?
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that doesn't make any sense. why would the software demand a proxy?
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: Do you have a cell phone with internet?
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: if you have to use a proxy to get the connection in the first place, then just use the proxy settings you have
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enduro Tech: how to I move the stats page on mushclient?  I just loaded the client but I can't select the top part of the box so I can move it..
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enduro Tech: I can't select the top part of the window
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enduro Tech: someone knows a place where I could import speedwalks into mushclient?
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: well, if you want generic speedwalks, use the runto command (mud side)
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: question is, will installing an antivirus prog on windows 7 grind it to a halt?
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: Not at all.
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: does with vista, and did with xp unless you had plenty of beans
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: Which client were you using?
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: (antiviral)
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i've had experience with pretty much all of them
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: I've used Avira on XPSP2, Vista (before SP's) and Win7 Beta/RC1, and never had a problem.
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: never heard of it
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: It's very good.
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: the 4 that i see frequently are avg, symantec, mcafee, and bullguard
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: I've never heard anything good about AVG
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: McAfee is so bad they offer it for free now.
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: its a good, lightweight prog, is avg
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: Try Avira though.
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: mcafee isn't free, it's one of the most expensive over here
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: I've had decent success with avg on a vista box
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: mcafee kills my xp laptop occasionally, can't do anything about it since its my company's laptop
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: run it over, claim the insurance, and get yourself one?
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft nogs at himself, he must be getting freaky!
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: well, they sent me this one when they retired my other one, so its not *that* bad :p
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: its just the virus-scan that kills it, it has 4 GB of ram :p
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: OK, my mind is slow tonight.  Someone write me a regex to capture everything until the FIRST apperance of "xx" (without the quotes)
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: ^(.+?)xx
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: e.g if it's:  "aaaa bbbb cccxxxxxxx", I want it to capture "aaaa bbbb ccc"
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: ^(.+?)xx
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: what he said
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: That'll capture "aaaa bbbb cccxxxxx"
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Not "aaaa bbbb ccc"
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: no it won't.
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: No, it should work... the capture is non-greedy.
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Won't it?
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Oh, OK
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Nods
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: or rather, it "catches" it, but does not pass it as a parameter.
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Told ya my mind was slow tonight :P
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: it's just a reference.
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Madcatz nods.
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: I gotcha
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Anyone know a way to transfer MUSH aliases into a RoA client?
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: mushclient aliases is in xml format. you could try to parse it if there is no easy way
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: I take it no then...
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: you're going to have to rewrite your aliases
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: so not cool
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: I have 157 aliases...
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: whats RoA?
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: its some old mud client
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: =h
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: thats the full name?
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: DK, if you're going to change client, then change to a client that you'll be able to get some scripting support...roaclient doesn't really fall under that :P
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gonf seems to think you have the right idea.
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: zmud, MUSH, tinyfugue and tintin all have enough users that there's good scripters to ask when you're stuck, as well as some pre-done scripts that you can download...kildclient, roaclient, mm2k, etc don't
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: MUSH and ZMud are the only ones (cmud also) with GUI, but i dislike MUSH scripting style, and Zmud won't run on my comp. I like tintin style scripting but i miss teh GUI too much
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Im really looking for something with GUi and #[command] but other than z(c)mud have nothing
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: if you want to use # as your script prefix, you can set that in mush...
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: maybe the issue is that you're just more familiar/comfortable with zmud, why is it that you can't run zmud?
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: He has a vista problem running both zMUD and CMUD for some reason. It's a local error. :P
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: ahh :p
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i used to play at rom about 10 years ago using raw telnet client :)
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drighton Tech: oooh me too
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: mushclient is the first client i have
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drighton Tech: i wonder if rom is still around ...
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i just check it out, and yes its still around
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drighton Tech: i wonder if rom is still around ...
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drighton Tech: oops stupid client
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: switch to tinyfugue }:>
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i c, cant help you there sorry, mush had it unified
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: What is the * in MUSH equivalent to in Cmud?
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: For triggers, alias, gag, etc.
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on whether you're using zscript or regexp
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: iirc it's still * for non-regexp
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: I want to #gag {stats}*
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: I want to #gag {stats}*
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: I want to #gag {stats}*
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: I want to #gag {stats}*
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: I want to #gag {stats}*
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: I want to /#gag {stats}*
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: I want to /#gag {stats}*
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: I want to /#gag {stats}*
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: download fiendish's stat gauge script...it'll do the gagging :P
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Did that show up?
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, we get it...you want to gag {stats}* ;-)
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: I never say it
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, we get it...you want to gag {sta-ts}* ;-)
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: It isn't showing on my end....
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Megawatt Tech: Darkknowing's bot broke!
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, then it worked to gag ;-)
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Oh it definitely showed on our end
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Sorry
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nitrana Tech: Does anyone know of a Gain Reporter that works for Zmud 6+?
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 8 times it showed up :P
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Again, sorry
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nitrana, pretty much anything you download currently will be written for 7+, mostly 7.2.1
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nitrana Tech: -_-
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can find scripts of various kinds on clan websites, finger danj, alhena & fiendish
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: It gags it when i type onto here, but i can't get it to parse when i do it on mine....
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: What is the scripting language for cmud called?
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: zscript, lua, java, vbscript, python, perl...
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: I wanted to change my mush language to the one TinTin++ uses, but i was told it doesn't technically have one, so i figured go with cmud's
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Heh.
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUD clients use their own languages...their core stuff is not any published language that will be in any drop-down
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods at you in agreement. 
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: I noticed
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: That's not to say that core languages aren't based off something. ;)
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: many clients can also use other languages, like MUSH can use a bunch...but even MUSH is its own language that isn't found anywhere else
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cmud's language is based on zmud's language (zscript), which is based on tintin
T1/r7/2009-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Priestess Maluea Tech: anyone else using atlantis?
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daimbert Tech: Does anyone on know much about OS X?  Namely if I can edit system preference files through the terminal if I load the computer in Target Disk Mode?
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: Um no. I know nothing about OS X.
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: I'm a microsoft kinda guy... sometimes Linux.
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: it came after OS V
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Next will be OS Y
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: What about OS W?
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: we don't talk about OS W
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: But... why not?
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: If I explained, that would be talking about it.
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Great, and now you have me talking about it now!
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daimbert Tech: Alrighty, well thanks guys.
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: So now that you're talking about it, you've already broken the no-talking-about-OS-W thing.
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: meh, can't find anything online quickly, and my Mac friends are all asleep.
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: and yes, the Macs are my friends, not their users.
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: then jiggle their mouses...
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I guess jiggling their mice would be more polite than toggling their joysticks.
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: Mouses. Mice is the plural form of mouse... as in the animal.
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daimbert Tech: Oh well, thanks for checking around.  I have this computer that I'm trying to sort of hijack just for its wireless card, but the screen is dead so I can't modify it's internet sharing preferences directly.
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: meeses, then.
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: Those are the things from Cinderella... aren't they?
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Mr. Jinx, actually.
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Pixie and Dixie.
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: And Gusgus.
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: erm... that's Cinderella again.
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: No no. It's my uncle.
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: your uncle is a mouse?  
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: what happens when you jiggle him?
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: No, my uncle is named Guss.
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Li'l Bunny Zhalt Tech: is a Geforce 9500GT a decent graphics card?
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It is a video card
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Hey guys, general quesiton. I know what S/PDIF is. How do you pronounce it?
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I generally always said it S P DIF
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBob Tech: ess pee diff
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I'm raging at this.. .review, he keeps saying "Spidiff"
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: S over PDIF
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: or just S P D I F
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Gentoo... You best be trollin
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBob Tech: its ess pee diff I know mastering engineers
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBob Tech: thats how they say it
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yeah, Super rage now then =x
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GentooX chuckles politely.
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Also talked about having 64 megabits of memory on the sound card =x
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon goes, "Heh."
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBob Tech: highend audio processing cards cand have lots of memory
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: mrbob..... Memory... megabits
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBob Tech: hahah yea i missed that 
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Its 64 megabytes
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: 64megabits is tiny
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: guys i need some help with.. A BsOd (sniff)
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Format, you won't get them with Linux
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon beams with pride at herself, she must feel very proud.
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Fix them easily, and use an operating system theres actually good games for =)
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i got a BOFH
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: no its an unmountable boot volume
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Oooooo thats no good
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBob Tech: I hate when i have a massivly long macro running and i want to chat
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: what do i do?
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Like I said, format and install a better OS :D
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: If your data isn't backed up, it's not important...
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: better is relative, ola
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBob Tech: unix would be king if M$ wasnt smart enoguh to develip all those proprietary APIs like DX
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Fine. Format and install a decent OS.
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: have you use it before just fine?
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: heh, decent is also relative
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon looks at Daloran and mutters something nasty under her breath.
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ms didn't develop dx
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Phunk bursts into tears.
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon pats Phunk on his head.
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: They sure own it, though
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ms hasn't developed most things it sells now
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: so Phunk, have you use it before just fine?
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBob Tech: jsut liek the ydidnt develop dos.... they bascially BUY eveyrthing 
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBob Tech: they still own it
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Ah, DOS. I still have an original shrink-wrapped package of the original IBM DOS 6.0 at home...
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: yes this the first time bsOd.
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: then you have a corrupted file system :(
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBob Tech: Google the error code
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: won't fix boot sector help?
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: nahm
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBob Tech: it could be any number of things
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBob Tech: boot sector problem will not cause a BSOD
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: fixboot does occasionally fix that error
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Though, often it is dead hard drive as well =o
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBob Tech: what error? all a bsod means is that the kernel could not continue to run
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBob Tech: theres no way to diagnose without a error code
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: mrbob.... unmountable boot volume
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: no other specific error code given
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: dude no pc.. Cough cough.. BsOd.. Cough cough...
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBob Tech: OH thats a bsod?
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBob Tech: isnt that even before hte kernel loads
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Not necccesisarily
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: its actually a pretty common BSOD
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBob Tech: yea man goto console and try to repair boot sector then it will probably work
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBob Tech: yeai know ive had it but i dont consider it a BSOD
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBob Tech: its was always balck screen for me
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Its a kernel fault, bob
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBob Tech: never seen it happen like that
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Never seen it happen any other way, Usually HD issues prior to that are non system or disk error, etc
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: only if the kernel is running
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: shit and disaster
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: on his case, its not up at all
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBob Tech: well for hte kernel to run the HD has to be in a condition wehre boot.ini can be read so if yoru seeing a BSOD it mneans yoru data is proabably safe
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Language Phunk...
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBob Tech: but when ive had it happen I remember seeing it before anything loaded 
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: not really true, mrbob
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBob Tech: yea true the kernal is ON the drive....
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: to get an error like that, the boots sector is prolly fine
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Not true, GentooX =p
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: how so?
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i know its not a bios problem
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Bootsector != Bios 
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: and it reads boot sector prior to loading partitions
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yes, but doesn't mean it read it correctly, or that the correct information was contained therein
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: like i said. if the error is specific like that, it has read the boot sector code
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: However, if the bootsector is damaged in some fashion
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: then it wont read the disk
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Thats not true
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBob Tech: why not jsut try to repair the boot sector to eliminate it as a cause THEN move on if it doesnt work
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBob Tech: ACT
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: boot sector has to valid
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Mmmmmmmmmmk. Whatever then.
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBob Tech: gentoo is right if its damaged it wont read at all
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: He's not, actually.
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: so i'm not necessarily screwed?
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBob Tech: thats why im saying if yoru getting bluescreen boot.ini has been read windows cant do anythign untill it reads that file
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: yes i am, the boot sector reads, its the jump thats reading an error
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: well its blue and deadly
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: if you have only 1 partition, your are probably screwed
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBob Tech: if its blue thats kinda a good sign its might jsut be the mbr
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: maybe i should try fixboot. Where did i put that xp disc...
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: if you are on xp you might want to check ERD commander by winternals
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBob Tech: i dont know whats with al lthe thinking anyway all you have to do is go try fixboot
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBob Tech: actually my bad i THINK its best to try fixmbr first
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBob Tech: I have always jsut done both 
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: ok.. I.m stil doing chkdsk though
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: its a 300gig harddrive.. Its on 47 percent and counting...
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBob Tech: ok i just looked it up again because im bored as hell... the fixmbr is the more "dangerous" one so do fixboot first see if it works then resort to fixmbr
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBob Tech: im an impatient persion the the 3 times this has happened ot me i just did both at once and I always goti t resolved
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: it if reaches the boot sector (in his case it does) then the mbr is fine, im assuming of course the boot sector is on the boot partition
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: k i ran chkdsk.. It says one or more volume errors found
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBob Tech: yea your right gentoo its been so long since ive had any issues
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: its os concept
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBob Tech: ive have like 3-4 years where ive had like.... 0 computer issues 
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: what os do you help use?
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: what kind of question is that?
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBob Tech: all yoru base
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: sorry.. What os Do you use
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBob Tech: im gonna guess gentoo
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GentooX points at name
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBob Tech: i wish i was a real nerd im like a nerd of fortune I look up the conepts I need ot fix a problem then i seem to forget them : /
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBob Tech: perhaps it was the marijuana use
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: just think MBR->BOOT SECTOR PARTITION->OS
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: just think MBR->BOOT SECTOR OF ACTIVE PARTITION->OS
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBob Tech: think i had htem reversed
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBob Tech: in my head
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GentooX )
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: k now here's one. The pc works now first of all so thanx every1 for the help
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBob Tech: i am running off jsut a mobo sitting on my desk... my wolfdale's l2 died after a year at 1.4v
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: now.. When it start up, it says an exception ocurred while trying to Run c:windows:system32:nVcpl.dll
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: file is corrupted
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: can i fix that? I can't use nvidia controll panel cause of that
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: delete it
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: i've tried re-installing it 
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: then reinstall your nvida drivers?
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: it still breaks
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: if you dont delete it, it will try to overwrite the file in the same location
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBob Tech: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=7b9ba261-7a9c-43e7-9117-f673077ffb3c&displaylang=en
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBob Tech: somone said they traced it back to that runtime a reinstall didnt work
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBob Tech: man i kinda miss having computer issues
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: oh yes thats a possibility
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: thats a service pack for visual basic
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBob Tech: all ive had in years is outright dying cpus from overcloking
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: its runtime pack Phunk
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: does it help me at all? isnt it just a language
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBob Tech: somone on a forum said they traced your issue back to that runtime so try it
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i only use vista/xp coz my mom uses it, but i never had a major problem since 2001
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: its a runtime phunk, programs need it to run... just install it
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: ok its only a meg anyway
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBob Tech: video editing, games, music production not so fun on unix
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: i only run unix on my ps3
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: im doing computational mathematics that needs precision/control/timing + theres my dissertation
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: but theres a catch.. wine doesn't work on a ps3
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBob Tech: i think the lsat console i owned was a n64
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBob Tech: it sucks what console gaming did to pc gaming
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: well there is a mushclient for linux. and ive used it so i can mush from my ps3 :D
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: if wine worked on ps3, you could play WoW from your ps3!
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBob Tech: so you paide for expensive multimedia hardware... to play a text mud. : P
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: no.. i usually play mauds on my pc or phone
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: muds
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phunk Tech: ps3 is for hd gaming, and a music station etc
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBob Tech: im a sad excuse for a nerd I dont even own an HD
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBob Tech: i suddenly feel the urge to go buy a bunch of gadgets though
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBob Tech: or alternative simply leave everythign and live in the woods to escape this mental prision
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: How do i get a map to show up in CMud like in MUSH?
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: i knw #WIN maps
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: but it stilld oesn't show
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Gah, sorry for the typing
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cucumber Xantcha Tech: You have to setup a multiline capture script... it's not a trivial trigger... using maptags and a class you enable, you can turn on the class when you receive mapstart, capture every line until you get mapend
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Ok, thanks
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: xantcha: i Made the trigger to catch the map, now how do i make it display in the map window?
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: DK, why are you re-inventing the wheel on everything?
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cucumber Xantcha Tech: Your capture triggers need to #CAP to the map window (usually #CAP map)
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Thats what i was told i needed to do, abe
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cucumber Xantcha Tech: He wants Mush-style minimap capture in CMud
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then ignore them and do what I've been telling you to do :P
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Umm, did i miss something? What did you tell me to do?
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you were looking to gag {stats} yesterday, I suggested downloading Fiendish's zmud gauges script, which already handles gagging {stats}
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right next to that script is his map capture script
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Sure, ill do that. Once i figure out how scripts are downloaded in cmud
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: changing maybe 3 words in an already-written script is hella lot better than (1) learning to script before (2) writing it from scratch
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're downloaded in your web browser :P
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: I downloaded a spellup one, but i can't seem to get it into my Cmud...
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but yeah, an alternative is to click the button in your toolbar for the script repository that has a lot of cmud scripts already
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for spellup, use davos's which was written for cmud
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: that is the one
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: spellup scripts are much more complex than 3 triggers
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: I have Davos script, i just don't know how to get it to .... show up and work
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: import it
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Secondhand Madcatz Tech: I've honestly just aliased "spellup" to "spellup 1 201 50 100", and used that for the past couple of months :P
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: The only choice i see is 'import from zmud'
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: madcatz, that's not bad for basics, but it's NOWHERE near a spellup script's functionality
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: The only choice i see is 'import from zmud'
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: DK, how did you get davos's script?
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Woops
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: through davos.aarcharn
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when I click on it, it takes me to a page that has big bold lettering "First Time Install Instructions"
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're going to ignore things like that, then how can we help you?
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Im not ignoring it, i don't have that option. I don't have just a plain 'open' i only have 'open session'
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gotta be in settings
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shamo Tech: can any1 tell me the default text and size for mushclient?
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 9 point fixedsys
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: typing "initaard" will attempt to set up your MUSH with font and window sizes that make sense for your monitor resolution
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Burnout Tech: is there a way to see how triggers are made? like examples of existing ones?
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: which client?
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Burnout Tech: mush
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: which client?
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: www.mushclient.com has a bunch of plugins and examples in the forums
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Gentoox, btw do you still have the disconnect issue with the spellup plugin?
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Burnout Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: when doing an if statement in zmud and you need the variable to equal a certain number what is the proper way to write that out because my statements keeps messing up on me
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: what pattern are you using?
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: #if statement == statement?
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: #IF (@somevar=0){DO THIS}
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: i even tried ==
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: still keeps messing up
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: #If {var == var} {if true} {if false}?
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: it's a number so use (%d) in the pattern, for the command however depending on how many wildcards you have in there it should just be #if {%1=blah) {true} {false}
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: also, if you want it to match a multitude of numbers you can assign it to a variable and then compare it to another with %ismember if i remember correctly
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: hmmm
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: i have a variable that is 1 or 0 depending on what happens so when the variable =1 it needs to do something
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: have you tried writing it as "lah = 1"  no quotes just emphasizing the spaces between
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: argh... i still don't know how to use mushclient
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: i might need to post the script to you
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: i need to play with it 
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: #IF{%1 = 1} {echo is one} {echo Not 1}
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: i can't test it thought, i don't have it on here since i'm running ubuntu
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: but yes, it should work like that
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: rampagne you could always try #IF variable>0 too
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: hmmmmm
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: i like that
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Actually, all you need is #IF (@variable) {Do this} {Do this}
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: If the variable is anything other than 0, it'll do the first argument. If it's 0 or null, then it does the second.
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: hmm i never knew that myself, neat.
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Falconfury Tech: its true
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: I've never really dealt with stuff like that though, I'm good with strings of patterns/commands.
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: it's a problem with my and
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: zmud uses boolean right
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alt. Helpa Charneus nods.
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: #if This AND This
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: this is becoming frustrating :(
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: #IF (expression AND expression2) {do this} {blah blah}
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: nice it works
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: finally
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: thank you all
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: how do you make it so you only see one line of damage instead of multiple lines
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: damage 1
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: Iwill it do it for spells  and skills?
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: nope
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: many people have requested combining spells/skills damage on the Ideas board :p
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Pocket PCs (or PDAs, or whatever) these days...do they actually full versions of Windows?  Or specialized versions of it?
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: Specialized versions
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: you want to look at UMPCs or MIDs if you want full windows
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: pocket pcs/smartphones have Windows Mobile on, typically
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei looks at Tech Bloke Danj and goes "Hmmmm."
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Alright, I might look at those.
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: There was also a Windows CE at one point, don't know if it's still in use by anything.
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: windows CE became Windows Mobile
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: Ah, OK.  Thanks.
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: I hav windows ce on a cash register
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: so like, there was CE 3.1, CE 4, then WinMo 5, WinMo 6, WinMo 6.1 and now WinMo 6.5
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: I hav windows ce on a cash register ce stands for crippled
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: haha
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: Yeah well
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: seriously a cash register that can't use the built in calculator
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: is there a special character that can be used to identify another player in a room
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunsele Tech: i don't understand the question, rampagne, but it sounds like an interesting one
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: example...
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: instead of having that long description fo the character in the room how could you do it to just display their name only
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: try nopretitle and notitles?
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunsele Tech: there is a way to shorten the flags
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: yea i know how to get rid of the flags
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: As far as wireless capabilities on these UMPCs, would you need to be in a wifi hotspot, or could you have cell-phone like internet coverage?
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Hmm...is 3G what I need on a UMPC to be able to get internet virtually anywhere?
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: 3G will give you internet access virtually anywhere within 24 miles of a 3G equipped cell tower. (depending on the height of the tower)
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Hmm, OK.  Thanks.
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Yay! Microsoft is doing something right! If you're looking to buy a new Windows system starting today or plan to upgrade immediately, you're in luck: Windows 7 will be a free upgrade for new Vista buyers, and upgrades are going for half-price.
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borin Tech: Sweet!
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Those with Windows XP or Vista already installed can start pre-ordering Windows 7 upgrade discs, costing $50 for Home Premium and $100 for Professional. Those deals are for a "limited time," with no specifics given, from Microsoft directly and most computer retailers, and Ultimate may or may not see an upgrade pre-order deal.
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Is there any place to purchase a notebook or netbook without an OS (or with Linux)?
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: and hopefully cheaper than a comparable one with Windows?
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: why just buy a ms one and put linux on it
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: try newegg
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: eee pc's have linux options
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Ah ha! They have 2.
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: A battery life of 2.5 hours?? :/
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: THanks for the tip.
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: http://eeepc.asus.com/global/getstarted.html?n=1 try that
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: they have some eepc with 10 hours batt life
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: eepc*
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: eeepc*
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: he's logged out... I"ll pass that along when he gets back
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: oh ok thanks cartman
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunsele Tech: f
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunsele Tech: i am using vista os. the i get a "failed to launch help" message when i try to access the contents or index. there are so many plugins and extras up on the net...can anyone help me narrow down the search for a fix to this problem?
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: google "helf file vista" ... theres a file you have to download for old .chm files to work
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: help*
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunsele Tech: thank you
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: how would I make a list that I can pick from and it adds the value i pick to a variable
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: been trying but having no luck and getting confused
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: i mean how can i make a list pop up with values in it
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: and pick one
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: i know how to make a prompt ocme up and add the value to a variable tbu that is it
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}November Tech: You can't access the Wikipedia page for Michael Jackson, site broken
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: I just loaded it.
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: is a SATA HDD hotswapable with windows 7>
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Try it! >:D
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: Internal?
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: doubtful.
T1/r7/2009-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: yar
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nixie Tech: anyone into dreamcast emulation?
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: anyone else having trouble staying connected?
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Not at all.
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serene Penthesilea Tech: not today..
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: yay windows 7 upgrade program announced... now i can buy my laptop :)
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: In cmud to recall a variable is it @variablename or %variablename?
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: ok I have a question about aardmush triggers
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: ask
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: what is the charcter that lets me take the same number from the trigger line and insert it into the trigger responce
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: %1 %2 %3...
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: ahh thanks
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: %0 get the whole shebang?
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: No, she only bang me
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: heh
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: how do I convert this line to regexp using aardmush so that it dosent care who is auctioning or wut number item it is?
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: Etadan is auctioning a drop of witch blood (Level 20, Num 606). Current bid is 1,000.
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Priestess Maluea Tech: no clue
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: wuts the name of that lua site that tells me all about regexp?
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: its called google.com
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: lua uses PCRE
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LotsOfWuv4 Xantcha Tech: You can also try regularexpressions.info
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: O'Reilly's Mastering Regular Expressions
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: tried that, its no good
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: there is documentation at www.mushclient.com
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Or www.luausers.org
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/mushclient/regexp.htm
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: replace your variables in your trigger line with *, then click on convert to regular expression, start from there
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon . o O ( Lua doesn't use real regexp )
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: yes it does not use standard regexp but perl compatible regexp
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: If it uses PCRE it uses real regexps.
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: It doesn't. It uses an extremely scaled down and limited version of Perl regexp.
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: ok so when matching the imput to the output, I use %1 as a replacement in the trigger line and the output line?
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: is there any notation that I would be forgetting?
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: visit the mushclient forums, there is a great tutorial on triggers, alias, scripting
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: it will answer all your questions
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: ok I read through the forums but it hasnt answered my questions about wut want to sent to the world once I match my trigger
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: with regard to matching numbers
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Numbers are the same as text as far as capturing goes
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: very simply if the game says I have 3 of something I want my trigger to send to the world that I have 3 of something
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: but the 3 could be 8 or 8 million
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: you see
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Google for "lua pattern matching".
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Look at the "Lua Pattern Matching Tutorial"
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: ok I think Im getting somewhere, how do I get it to match the second varable instead of the first one?
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: match it? use another *
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: to use it after you capture it, use %2
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: anyone here able to help me with what I assume will be an easy TinyFugue question? I have a variable defined for my default portal worn, what do I have to type to wear it eg wear <variable> or wear {variable} wear %[variable] the docs are a bit sparse.
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: /eval wear %var
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GentooX is expressing how much wootness Apprentice Oladon exhibits.
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: thank you *bows and worships* that was really starting to annoy me.
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon goes, "Heh."
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: now to pull up kate and change all instances of wear portal to that.
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Welcome to TF, btw :)
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: thanks, its a large step from zmud which did not like wine when I did the linux switch.
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: goal for the next month figure out trigs :P
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: If you need any help, feel free to shoot me a tell or leave a note
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: thanks, I'll add you to the list of people who know it. Right now its Abelinc, Ani and you.
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: whois ani?
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Anipopo
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Twisting FatesDagger nods at Apprentice Oladon.
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GentooX falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krax Tech: +200
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: -200
T1/r7/2009-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: finding reasonable low profile low profile agp graphics cards is tough
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Achillis Tech: how do i set a trigger someone plz help me
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: I can help a little wut you need
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Achillis Tech: how do i set a trigger
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: wut client do you use?
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Achillis Tech: the mush
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Achillis Tech: im using mush client i do i set a trigger plz help me
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: ok, wut are you trying to set a trigger for
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Achillis Tech: uhmm like to cast spells if mu health is under a certain amount
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: As long as it's not running while you're AFK... ;)
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: hmm thats a bit complicated anyway never did anything like that myself
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: u better off dling a potion quaff plugin
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Achillis Tech: what can you do tell me give me tips its just so weird that trigger  stuff
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Achillis Tech: oky how do i do that potion stuff
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Achillis Tech: how do you set potion triggers
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: well basically, u need to capture the like u want the trigger for, then set the action u want to take, like, [476hp(33%) 1101mp(87%) 1869mv(98%) 15qt 2500align 396tnl] for the line u want to capture and, quaff potion, for wut u want to happen when it fires
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: but there are tons a variables and other crap...
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: I suggest another route
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Achillis Tech: [476hp(33%) 1101mp(87%) 1869mv(98%) 15qt 2500align 396tnl] must i add the persentage also
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: macros
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: that kind of scripting is... if you have to ask, you need to do your own reading up
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Achillis Tech: where can i go read stuff about this
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: just set macro buttons! I have them for all the potions and combat actions I use
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: forum for whatever client you're using
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: zmud?
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: and the manual ofc
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: for example my f4 button when I push it once will get a potion out of my bag and quaff it
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: even in battle it works
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: doesn't that disable the special aard macro?
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you know, if you press and hold alt, then press f4, it'll auto quest for you!
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: special aard macro?
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: lollerskates
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: and ctrl-alt-delete activates the cheat mode
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: might as well say holding your power button will turn on the leveling bot :s
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but levelling bots are illegal
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn blinks innocently.
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: is it illegal when your computer is off? :P
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tevez Karlos stares at the sky.
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: if u arent a levelling bot, u are wrong
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Achillis Tech: how do you make that leveling bot but dont worry i wont do it
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: ... yeah dont think too hard about it :P
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: levelling bots are always changing and shfting u suit the users needs
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: i dont want a levelling bot... i want a work bot for work!
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Achillis Tech: what must you set at the trigger just the send: and the trigger : or what
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: u still trying to make that potion quaff trigger?
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Achillis Tech: jip what must u do everything there at the trigger
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Secondhand Madcatz Tech: Anyone know of a way to count the number of times 1 appears in a range of cells in excel?
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Secondhand Madcatz Tech: With 1 being the entire contents of said cell(s).
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: sum all the cells?
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Use umm... acount() I think
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Might be counta()
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Secondhand Madcatz Tech: The rest of them aren't 0, Elrast :P
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: oh :P
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: there's a conditional sum iirc
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: sumif ?
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Secondhand Madcatz Tech: count/counta counts how many cells aren't blank, it seems...
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: 19v 7.1A, 135W - hardly a energy efficient laptop
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Secondhand Madcatz Tech: Or aren't numbers, in the first case.
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: that's a toaster farkyss not a laptop
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Countif?
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Secondhand Madcatz Tech: Ah, countif will work
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Secondhand Madcatz nods at Apprentice Oladon.
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon beams with pride.
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: toaster heh
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: an old acer aspire 1660 i currently have apart
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: anyone with moon script can update me?
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaymez Tech: Do you have to understand programing languages to put a trigger in to spellup others?
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope jaymez
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't use a trigger to spellup others, just an alias or macro
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: triggers are basically for your client to learn something from the MUD...
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so they're good for spelling up yourself (it'll learn what it doesn't need to cast because you're already affected)...but for spelling up others, you pretty much just spam everything you have
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Achillis Tech: wat do you type at triggers:
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how to do an alias to spell up others would depend on your client...but many self-spellup scripts/plugins already handle spelling up others as well (like gammon's for MUSHclient, or mine for tinyfugue)
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaymez Tech: I have mush where would gammon's be found and how would I put it into game so that I could spellup others?
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon . o O ( Triggers to spellup others are also illegal. )
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=8780
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaymez Tech: I dont want it as trigger just when me in a group or something to spellup them. not to do it automatically
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that is, scripts that let you spellup others are perfectly fine...triggers, where someone says "spell me up" and your client automatically follows orders, are the bad ones
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaymez Tech: kk. Me dont want to get in trouble with IMMS. :)
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: abe's still wrong
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: umm, no
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you don't like it when you're wrong ;-)
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nobody does, but it happens :-)
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: how do i make it to where my mush dosnt show chats in the aard window and only in the chat  window
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "chats echo off"
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: thats the nice thanks 
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you were definitely wrong about the xp oem licensing/upgrading motherboards issue
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, then they changed their general policy within the last few years
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: been that since 2001
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: since xp
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: (at least)
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: there are exceptions to the rule
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when activation on xp came out, it wouldn't complain until something like 3 components changed...whether single mobo swap would trigger that would depend on how much was integrated vs in cards
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: single mobo swap would always trigger it
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: of course, in practice there are all manner of ways around it
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: but legally, end users can't upgrade their motherboards without buying another license
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: guess so...I've put hard drives into identical-model computers without it prompting
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: the exception to the rule is if the vendor can no longer get an identical motherboard and replaces it with a similar or equivalent replacement, they can have m$ allow them to reuse a license
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: but end users, no
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the case of vendor/RMA, the onus would be on them to supply valid license to the client anyway
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: no such animal
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: the vendor would have supplied both in the first place
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: since it would have been illegal for a seller to retail an oem license without it being attatched to a pc
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, but that doesn't change that the vendor's responsibility in a mobo warranty issue to ensure that the end user can still use it
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nogs, thankfully they can do that with a phone call
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: and the rules are strictly enforced anyway
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: else pretty much every online parts retailer would be closed down overnight
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: since they all sell oem software to the public without making any checks that they're selling them to accredited system builders
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I basically keep a SA volume license on 1/3rd of our computer
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we buy them all with OEM licenses, so when we went from 2k to XP, the latter ones came with XP OEM, so they were legal...the older ones used the volume licenses
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: actually, as a builder myself, it would make me more competitive if said etailers -were- stopped from selling to the public
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all the ones we bought the last year & this year are the "XP downgrade", so they're already licensed for Vista
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (although we'll probably totally skip Vista :P)
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Along with the rest of the world
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: in theory, could get around the installing an oem license on a used machine by buying the machine off the owner, "refurbishing it", putting the new oem license on, and selling it back to them
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaymez Tech: hey abelinc can I get that address again for the spellup I thought I wrote it down right but It not working.
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "tech -h gammon" :-)
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaymez Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: how aboot some advice on a free/cheap e-store system that suits a small vinyl store?
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: efil efil linux users!!! 
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon raises an eyebrow.
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: oladon, was just reading about horrible people called warchaulkers ^_^
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuochii Tech: how do I get a spellup script?
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jumala Pohhui Tech: dont need a script
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuochii Tech: now hoe do i spellup someone else?
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: c spell# name
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: for example , c 53 kinma
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuochii Tech: if i want to multiple spellup 
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: then you'd need a script or macro that uses another person's name as a variable
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuochii Tech: some people offer free spellups and so on...Do they have a script of everyone in the game then?
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuochii Tech: I just need someone to copy a script for me
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jumala Pohhui Tech: {cast spellname %1;cast spellname %1:cast spellname %1}
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: what client?
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: some clients take different scripts, for example Zmud/Cmud
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuochii Tech: MUSHclient
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jumala Pohhui Tech: mush client is for girls
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: you can also find a bunch of scripts on the aard website and other sites in help WWW
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuochii Tech: Its the only client that worked
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuochii Tech: how do I use a script?
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuochii Tech: how do I use a script?
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuochii Tech: I have a script but how do you use it?
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: script for a movie? find a producer
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuochii Tech: a spellup script <Dunce>
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, right. now we have to guess the client you're using, right?
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuochii Tech: MUSH
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Are you talking about Nick Gammon's spellup plugin?
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuochii Tech: something about ahena
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuochii Tech: alhena
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuochii Tech: a spellupper
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: You can't use a zmud script with MUSHclient..
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuochii Tech: thats what they call ir
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuochii Tech: it
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuochii Tech: I heve MUSHclient ok.I have the spellupper script ok.I want to know how to use it ok.
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuochii Tech: to where do I copy a script when im done downoading?
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuochii Tech: with MUSH version
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lynel Tech: so in the description this says mud and non mud does this mean i can get help with my programming homewor? =D
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Hehe. You might be able to, but people probably won't just give you the answers. :)
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: oh wow, this text tos peech stuff is sweet
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude is now sporting some festival !
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: anyone got any good scripts to capture mud text from channels and output it to a | festival --tts ?
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuochii Tech: you guys dont help a bit
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: what is the format to include a variable in your trigger pattern?
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OverSlept Xantcha Tech: Depends, you using z/cmud? regex or "zmud" notation? named variable or numerical index?
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OverSlept Xantcha Tech: In regex, just surrounding something in () captures it into a numbered variable
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: zmud
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: the vars contain a string
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maaloc Tech: how do i turn off the (affoff)64 stuff when my buffs wear off?
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: tags spellup off
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: tags spellups off that is
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type tags by itself to see similar toggles for other events
T1/r7/2009-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maaloc Tech: thanks :)
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: how can i make the map for zmud stop being transparent when i unclick the box nothing happens
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuochii Tech: how do I use the bigmap if I want to find a target for my quest or campaign?
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: anyone knows how to set indent for session window in cmud?
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Under Preferences->Session->Word wrap.
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: ok.. i'm not getting it right i think
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: i just want to push every output on my mud window out by 1 or 2 spaces
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: and i used to have it until i accidentally shifted the bar and all the windows reset
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Hmmm.
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Not sure about that, then.
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: ok, i'll try surfing around and trying to remember how i last did it. hmm
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: anyone has any idea how to move the output in a cmud window to be automatically to the right by a space?
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lynel Tech: what was this coded with just out of curiosity?
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lynel Tech: anybody know?
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Li'l Bunny Zhalt Tech: Quick Basic? :P
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: Aardwolf?
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lynel Tech: yeah
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: C, mostly.
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lynel Tech: thats what i thought. in school i am learning c++ advanced and c# we arent really going into c
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lynel Tech: i like seeing what i am learnin in action =D
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lynel Tech: i try to learn from every application i encounter..i really like development
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lynel Tech: anybody here have a c++ IDE i would love to talk to an actual developer for pointers
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: I haven't done any real development in C++, though I work in C# every day, and I know C
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lynel Tech: talking to instructors isnt really the same as talking to someone that is actually developing games
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lynel Tech: if you have visual studio it runs c, c#, and c++
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lynel Tech: well if anyone wants to swap code i am all for it i love feedback and i like learning from others..i jnow this isnt really aardwolf talk and im sorry if its not appropriate just let me know
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Nah, it's tech channel, you're good.
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: This is the perfectly appropriate channel for it
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lynel Tech: awesome! i just really like game development..and if talking to you guys helps me stay at the top of my class i am more than willing to listen to anyone that has knowledge of the subject =D
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: Unfortunately, aside from my work here in C, I haven't done much in the way of game development.  My C# experience is for work, developing business applications.
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Li'l Bunny Zhalt Tech: I think you should pop over to libsdl.org. That'd be a great place to start. SDL is an easy and very extenable graphics library with tons of additiosn, lots of tutorials etc.
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Li'l Bunny Zhalt Tech: There are ports made of SDL to C, C++, C#, VB(I think), Perl.. you name it!
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Li'l Bunny Zhalt Tech: Although, if you are going into Game programming C++ is what you want to focus on these days.
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lynel Tech: i am learning all aspects of development. application and game..my electives just weigh more towards game development
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Why would game development necessarily need graphics libraries?
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: OK, drop necessarily. :P
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Li'l Bunny Zhalt Tech: Ofcourse it wouldn't :)
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Li'l Bunny Zhalt Tech: nethack, ftw!
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: You're missing the obvious example :P
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Li'l Bunny Zhalt Tech: Hehe. True. MUDs :) I guess I just personally differ the two
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Li'l Bunny Zhalt Tech: Where of one is a single player experience, with focus on that aspect. While a MUD has focuses on so many other things! But that's just IMHO :)
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lynel Tech: i think application development is to linear for me. you get client requirments you meet client requirements. game development is more evolving. you get an idea and grow it
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Well, it's still about meeting requirements.
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: You just have to define them carefully.
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: (or not meeting them)
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: You can't make the most awesomest game in the world without starting from a simplified version in a way.
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: lol... I WISH.  Here's Rule 1 of app development:  You will never meet client requirements.  EVER.   You could make an app that makes their coffee in the morning, goes to work for them while simultaneously caddying their golf game, and they'll still want you to change it to do their taxes for them, too
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: I've been working on the same app (multi-client, web-based) for over 2 years now... it's constantly evolving.
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lynel Tech: i bet aarodwolf didnt start out as extensive as it is. prtotyped and evolved. i didnt think apps would be as imaginative
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Li'l Bunny Zhalt Tech: .*laugh* That is so true, Xantacha. Whenever you sit there, proud of your work and show it to your client. They go "That's not what I wanted!". :( Ring a bell? ;)
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Lynel, that was kind of my point :P
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: Aardwolf started as a ROM/Diku port.  It's now a completely unique ground-up rewritten codebase
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: But it's much the same as my job.  There's an app (Aard).  There are lots of clients (players) and we're constantly adding/changing features to accomodate them.
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: The only difference is that in my app, you don't kill things... (though at times you wish you could)
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: sometimes your product falls well short (vista) sometimes it exceeds expectations (doom 3)
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lynel Tech: what method does your company use for app development? if you use agile method you get more incremental deliveries and are more like to meet the clients needs with the final app
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i'd imagine that depends quite strongly on the type of application you're writing
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Li'l Bunny Zhalt Tech: Many times the end product wasn't what the client had imagined. Once they start working with it. Like people have said. It's an always evolving process :)
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Li'l Bunny Zhalt Tech: Incremental delivers is how we work, yes.
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: incremental deliveries wouldn't work for windows, for instance :-)
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Li'l Bunny Zhalt Tech: Service packs?
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: those are repairs
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Li'l Bunny Zhalt Tech: They also add things!
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: never seen them add things
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Li'l Bunny Zhalt Tech: Windows Spyware removal program, as an example.
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lynel Tech: i bet there were incremental deliveries for windows during development
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: maybe so, but it was incremental deliveries internally for the project, not judged against the end consumer's expectations
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lynel Tech: there is no way a linear approch like waterfall or something it would have cost millions more...if they developed windows and got to the final deliverable and it wasnt what they were looking for it would have had to been completely redone starting from scratch
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lynel Tech: a linear approach with no incrementals is not cost effective
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lynel Tech: it would require an entire rewrite every time you got it wrong
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ok. what's the most basic ecommerce solution out there?
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: isn't that like saying "what's the best car out there?"
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm not asking for the best. i'm asking for clean and simple
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: Is there a bluetooth numpad for pc ?
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: anyone know how to implement a variable into a trigger pattern?
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Secondhand Madcatz Tech: Erm, what client?
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: on gmud you do it with %1 or %2
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: zmud
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: don't you use *'s in the pattern
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: example, when i quaff a potion i want the name of the potion to be a variable
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: and each * is %x where x is the current * number
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: You can do #TRIGGER {@potionname blah blah blah}
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: cool
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: very nice, it works.. thank you all
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alt. Helpa Charneus Tech: Of course it does. When have I ever given you wrong information? :P
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: I am going to blow away the VM that I run MUSHClient in. Is there a way to export aliases, etc. to a file?
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: yes theres a button called save
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you look in the aliases window?
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: and load
T1/r7/2009-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Redface =)
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Anyone know how to force-close a single screen in screen?
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Li'l Bunny Zhalt Tech: -d
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Li'l Bunny Zhalt Tech: screen -d <name> is detach attached screen :)
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Li'l Bunny Zhalt Tech: erh, -D
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Not detach...
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corwyn Tech: If you're talking about killing a "window" in a screen it's CTRL+A k
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon goes ooOOooOOoo at Corwyn.
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you trying to totally get rid of it, or reattach remotely without the other side having to ctrl a ctrl d?
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: I'll try that, thanks Corwyn.
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Abelinc: I never mentioned attaching or detaching anywhere in my question; where are you people coming up with these ideas?! :P
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corwyn Tech: Oladon, try CTRL+A ? for all kinds of useful tricks :P
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as "close" isn't a concept that exists in screen, if you don't ask using proper terms, we must approximate :P
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Nods, I know that Corwyn... I'm familiar with most of them, but couldn't find the kill one. Thanks.
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: wow ctrl-a ? rocks
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to stop a window from being open (i.e. "close"), your two options are killing (I don't want it to continue) and detaching (keep running in our absence)...both qualify as "closing"
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nomen Tech: whats the command to turn of the status lines and such from the mush client?
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: any Vista experts around?
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's dyyyyyinnnngg
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i don't think you can have an expert of vista, tg
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I doubt even Microsoft are experts in Vista. :P
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: everything seems to be dying today, toner, monitor
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i blame michael jackson
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: whats up?
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: his computer case turned white
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that hasn't happened yet, thank goodness
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: London will be hitting 102F by the weekend, apparently
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: so glad i don't live there
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Fark... 103 here yesterday in Cali
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you're used to it
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Eh, you never get used to that
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: so what you're saying is it's a warm summer day there 2morrow?
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: come down to aus for a nice hot summer day some time
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I'd rather not =p
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: mind you, only cause I don't cope well with heat
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: oh? come now then
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: real cold this winter :P
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: we get all crabby when it goes above 70F
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Basically, Fark =p
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: not used to it, you see
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: besides, if going down under, the hobitses are more fun to visit :P
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: any Vista experts here?
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Time: ask your question, don't ask if anyones an expert, or ask if you can ask a question 
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBob Tech: considering the state of vista thats arguably and oxymoron
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBob Tech: an*
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Good chance someone can help you with it, though
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: well, it's a simple question - I've read about 100 different answers on the web, so let's see ;)
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Overlord Xantcha Tech: Then answer is no: don't install it :P
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Vista has its merits
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: here you will get 100 interactive answers
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Myopic: and only 98 of them will be "WHY DID YOU INSTALL VISTA?!?!"
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: So out with the question! I need my daily dose of tech support
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: I intalled vista 64 that' deserves a why for
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: let's say you put your hands on a PC/laptop with Vista Home pre-installed. Home. Not Ultimate. Now, the OS is in a language you dislike - or don't understand at all. Is there a way to change the language? Forget the language packs - MUIs are for Ultimate, LIPs don't work well at all it seems. So, one of the propositions (from a sales manager) was that on new Vistas you get to choose the language during a re-install. Others say it only applies to keyboard/etc, but not the actual language of the OS. Anyone with proper experience? I also read there are plenty of licencing issues there...
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you can't change the language except with a full reinstall
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: period
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod, aside from keyboard layouts, which isn't what you were after
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: which is why when you choose your language at install it specifically warns you "You cannot change the language later"
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Overlord Xantcha Tech: I imagine with the EU licensing problems they've had, you're likely better off either avoiding a pre-installed Vista and buying a copy, or installing something else over it
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: a full reinstall is fine - question is, do you get to choose the language during a re-install, or, as Microsoft claims on its forums, do you need to buy a copy of Vista in that language in addition ;)
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you always get the chance to choose a language even with preinstall
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: Farkyss - in Germany you don't. You get a Vista in German. Next?
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, possibly an OEM vendor saved some space by not including the support files for some languages?
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if you have some form of recovery disk, the initial part might be in the language of the seller, but when it gets to the vista part, the first screen you'll get is to choose a language. It's park of the OPK process
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: unlike xp
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: the claim is you get the installation DVD and you "can choose a different language - 1 or 2 other options at most - if you re-install"
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no wonder I don't like vista...it's OPK! *srun*
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you'll get all the normal language options
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Fark, I hate to ask, but can you expand the acronym OPK?
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oem preinstall kit
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: that
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: I'd like concrete facts, possibly with links to official docs please - I don't want to buy a German Vista pre-installed and find out I can't change the language at the end :) (BTW, I'm still a Linux addict - my fiancee isn't)
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Much obliged. Thanks
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: a license is a license, you can -always- reinstall it in a different language
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: well, not so fast Farkyss. You can't use a licence key for the German version on an English version the DVD for which you borrowed from your friend for example
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: yes you can
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: if you want the official MS docs I'll re-find them now
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: ok, then let me find that fact for you.
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: microsoft quite deliberately included all versions of vista on every oem DVD for that reason
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: (aside from reducing duplication costs)
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: farky, could a sysprep file prune down the options presented?
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i don't think it can
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/genuinevista/thread/44b35e79-10fe-4102-93e3-b024a3c11dbb
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: quote: "No, the product key is specific to the Version/Language of the OS, so you couldn't change the Laguage version of Vista using the same Product Key."
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i've dealth with plenty of different laptop manufacturers, none of them had removed language options
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: what language do you want it in?
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: English dammit :P
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: then any EU license will work
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: that's quoted from where Farkyss? I don't doubt the information, I'd just like something concrete and official to go on :)
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: why not just ask the manufacturer?
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: you mean the shop manager :P They told me that if I re-install I can choose English - but naturally refused to show it as it'd take "3 hours"
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: and you know, as soon as you walk out of the shop anything that's not in writing is void :)
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: one thing I fail to morally accept is that all decent OSs have 20-30 languages to switch between even if it means a reinstall, with Vista MS openly says "if you want it in your language you'll have to buy another copy"
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i've change vista os languages for people who've bought them abroad and never had any problems
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: and I STILL don't have a sound answer as to whether buying a PC/laptop with Vista pre-installed in German I can switch to English or not
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: the best suggestion is to ask the manufacturer
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: you mean, call up ASUS and ask "is this laptop you provided for Germany with Vista home basic capable of being in English?"
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Overlord Xantcha Tech: TG, I say don't risk it... M$ always makes it difficult... if there's doubt, avoid it
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: Xan - I avoid MS myself, but this isn't for me :/
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: asus laptops always have a screen for choosing languages on at preinstall
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: then there's the whole keyboard hassle... I think I'll try to lay my hands onto something that's right out of the box
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: that'd be better
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: farky will ship one from UK ;-)
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: which means driving to another country, but that's okay
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Or.. getting one shipped? noob =p
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: Daloren - takes too long, and you get a cat in a black box
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: or EBay
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Order direct from the manufacturer, then
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: still takes a few weeks to deliver, Daloran :)
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: If you're gonna spend a few hundred to a few thousand on a new laptop, you don't have the patience to wait a week or three? =p
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: with things like a PC I like trying it hands-on before I buy - small things can irritate to no end
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: I don't have the patience to wait 2 weeks, get crap, send it back, argue back and forth, get something else, repeat and rinse... I'd rather try it, make sure I'm comfortable with the product and how it runs, and buy.
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: which reminds me... how much does RAM go for these days? I'm still running on 256 MB :P
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: it's cheap
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: depends on the ram
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: desktop ram, laptop ram, ddr3, ddr2, ddr, sd?
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: sounds like you need the new laptop, not the fiancee =p
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: I saw Kingstone (or whatever the name is) for 80 USD / 1 GB, but that seems pretty expensive
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Er.  Quite.
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: oh ouch, yeah.. thats bad
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: Farkyss - PC, DDR
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: that is expensive, must be some special type or a rip-off merchant
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: I just got 8 gig of DDR2 for just a bit over a hundred.  DDR3 was still about twice the price, though.
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: it'll be a bit more expensive for older ram
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: i bought 2gig of ddr2 for 17 pounds
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: what's the realistic price for DDR tho?
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: dunno, see pricewatch or tigerdirect?
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: 35 euros is typical for 1gb ddr atm
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: kk, thanks, that sounds reasonable... DDR2 was way cheaper, I'll try to find a different set of shops selling other brands
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hehe, my MUDding computer uses 72 pin parity SIMMs ;-)
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: only reason I want to upgrade RAM is because listening to music and having updates running makes the swapping daemon go wild :P
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: 1 GB will suffice tho :P
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: XP or vista on that one? ;-)
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: SuSE Linux, Abe
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, 256 heh, drop KDE and the 256 will be plenty ;-)
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: runs fine on 256 MB RAM with an old CPU
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: just the occasional spike when updates are being installed - the RPMs are pretty big, especially when kernel updates are rolled out :)
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: my laptop is actually older - it has a 1.6 GHz single-core CPU, but 1 GB RAM - that runs like a charm
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: as long as the swap daemon isn't sweating, all is fine :)
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: my laptop's older than your laptop
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Feral Farkyss has just 'pfft'ed you! How disgusting!
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: only because you destroyed my old one!
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: my laptop is older than your old laptop that -you- cooked
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you like burning things
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: remind me not to invite her into my kitchen then...
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bulwark Timeghost blinks innocently.
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: her indian name -is- 'smokes from ovens'
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: i haven't started a fire in years
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: #sub years minutes
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: How do I Spell-check in Windows Notepad?
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: import it into open office and spell  check
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: you don't
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Now is that Word or Notepad? You said Word earlier.
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: there's no -in-notpad- spell checkers?
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: dunno about you, but i usually dont spellcheck my notes till I'm ready to compile them in to a document
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lynel Tech: can you set macros for commands on here?
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Anyone know offhand the key combination to activate the built in recovery on a dell laptop?
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: didn't know there was one.
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humpton Tech: i'm pretty sure this isn't it, but you could try, open window, toss computer...
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: see what all comes up with f12
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Theres a recovery partition, f12 is the regular one time boot menu, no option for restore
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ah, F8. Its a poorly labeled option in the menu
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatale Elliden Tech: how come #trigger {You lost your concentration while trying to cast '%1'.} {cast '%1'} doesnt work on zmud
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Because you're doing it wrong
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatale Elliden Tech: how should I do it?
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Because using  as a parameter is stupid and really was considered a bug.
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: #trigger {^You lost your concentration while trying to cast '(*)'.} {cast '%1'}
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Er... %1 as a parameter, etc.
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatale Elliden Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Theres something better then the *
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You want something that matches either 1 or 2 words, but im lazy
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatale Elliden Tech: which is?
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: the ^ is just so it triggers on new line only
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Variables you want to remember should be eclosed in parentheses
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I said i was lazy and I don't remember off hand =p * matches anything
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: sec..
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: yeah, * is probably easiest way of doing it
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: just make sure to add the ^ so its not open to abuse
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatale Elliden Tech: hmm its not working
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: be more specific
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatale Elliden Tech: the trigger isnt triggering
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: If you copy/paste your text in to the test trigger, does it not match?
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatale Elliden Tech: it does
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatale Elliden Tech: but for some reason when i try it on the mud it doesnt work
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: do you have triggers disabled? or that particular trigger disabled?
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatale Elliden Tech: nod
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Then that would be why they aren't working
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatale Elliden Tech: er i mean they are enabled
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatale Elliden Tech: misread your question lol
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: spelltags exist for just this sort of thing :-)
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: trigger on "^[{]sfail[}]([0-9]+),0,1,-1$"
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not sure if zmud needs ~{ or if the [{] will suffice
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Use { will work.
T1/r7/2009-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: #TRIGGER {^~{sfail~}(\d+),0,1,-1$} {c %1}
T1/r7/2009-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Secondhand Madcatz Tech: Windows XP: "This file came from another computer and might be blocked to help protect this computer."  Anyone know of a way to unblock a bunch of these files at once, rather than just right-clicking on each indivual one, going to properties, and clicking unblock?
T1/r7/2009-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for a bunch of existing files, move to a fat32 system, then back to NTFS
T1/r7/2009-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Secondhand Madcatz Tech: Nods, FAT32 doesn't preserve zone info...
T1/r7/2009-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Secondhand Madcatz goes, "Hmmmm."
T1/r7/2009-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to have it not care for downloaded files, gpedit.msc, user config, admin templates, windows components, attachment manage...enable do not preserve zone info
T1/r7/2009-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (which, BTW, was contained in the first link when googling "This file came from another computer" WITH the quotes ;-)
T1/r7/2009-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Secondhand Madcatz Tech: Neither one of those is really a pratical solution for me at the moment, though.  I don't care about new files -- just the ones that are on here now.  And don't want to make the computer any less secure by doing that.  And don't have access to any FAT32 partitions/drives, and can't really make one on this computer, especially when it's not easy to make the FAT32 space back into NTFS space, IIRC
T1/r7/2009-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: thumb drive, madcatz
T1/r7/2009-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Secondhand Madcatz Tech: If I was at home, I would :P
T1/r7/2009-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fat32 flash drive, grab a bunch of them, drag-copy them over, drag them back
T1/r7/2009-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Secondhand Madcatz Tech: My flash drive is at home.  Not a huge deal, though.  It's not a huge number of files.
T1/r7/2009-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Secondhand Madcatz Tech: Only reason they got that way in the first place is because a slip of the mouse :\
T1/r7/2009-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: office supply store within 6 miles ;-)
T1/r7/2009-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can do the gpedit change, upload the files somewhere, download them again, then restore the gpedit security
T1/r7/2009-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MS has a utility in sysinternals to delete streams
T1/r7/2009-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897440.aspx
T1/r7/2009-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Secondhand Madcatz Tech: Heh, I've actually already done it, but thanks.  Wasn't really all that many files.  Guess I was just curious :P
T1/r7/2009-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, now we know, anyway :-)
T1/r7/2009-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: what are opinions about ASUS laptops in general?
T1/r7/2009-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I've got an asus eee that I love. But not sure it counts as a laptop. :P
T1/r7/2009-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: I mean the normal laptops, not netbooks...
T1/r7/2009-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: j, i have an acer one
T1/r7/2009-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zaraf Tech: Anyone here good with using GIMP?
T1/r7/2009-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: he's in the basement right now
T1/r7/2009-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: zaraf i can print with it, and enlarge adult photos, but thats about it
T1/r7/2009-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: bring out the gimp!
T1/r7/2009-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zaraf Tech: I can easily make lines with arrowheads in Photoshop, but at my workplace, we have GIMP here....anyone know how to make lines with arrowheads in GIMP?
T1/r7/2009-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: zaraf, the toolkit bar
T1/r7/2009-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: clik the triangle with the dotted lines, and make it into an arrowhead
T1/r7/2009-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: then click the rectangle with the dotted line, and make it into the line
T1/r7/2009-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, you use pro tools at home, and freebies at work...kinda backwards ;-)
T1/r7/2009-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: abelinc, guess he must be in a dilbert boss-zone
T1/r7/2009-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zaraf Tech: well my office is looking into purchasing Photoshop, but cause of its high cost, things are being delayed
T1/r7/2009-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zaraf Tech: and for the time being, we're using GIMP
T1/r7/2009-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i love open source stuff, i dont have to break any copyright laws unless i want to :)
T1/r7/2009-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zaraf Tech: what do you mean by the toolkit bar?  Does it have a tool used to create an arrow specifically?  Or do you have to do it in 2 steps...first line and then arrowhead?
T1/r7/2009-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: zaraf, i hate reading helpfiles, so if i can make an arrow and a line and make it work, i just do that
T1/r7/2009-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zaraf Tech: for my purposes, we need to make a LOT of arrows on images....so having 2 steps just doubles our work
T1/r7/2009-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zaraf Tech: plus, manually making the arrow head isn't always accurate in keeping the arrows looking consistent
T1/r7/2009-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: hmn.
T1/r7/2009-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zaraf Tech: any kind of template that can be imported?
T1/r7/2009-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zaraf Tech: or custom shape type thing?
T1/r7/2009-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zaraf Tech: Alas, it seems I found a big handicap in GIMP
T1/r7/2009-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: yes, it requires a mouse
T1/r7/2009-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What is the ALT + CODE (I keep forgetting what it's called) for that very long dash the Japanese love to use (it's like a normal dash, only twice as long)?
T1/r7/2009-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: em dash?
T1/r7/2009-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: The twice-as-long dash. It's like two dashes, only it's a single character
T1/r7/2009-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try 0151
T1/r7/2009-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yeah, just found it off Google. Thanks.
T1/r7/2009-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: how do you make the chat echo permenent on mush
T1/r7/2009-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: how do i keep chat echos off in the main screen
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: anyone use vlc media player?
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: What about it?
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: well, the old version if not on top, would show through an all black background, and i haven't been able to find a version or setting to make this one do that again
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Ateam shrugs helplessly.
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Hmmm... come to think of it, don't know if it's there... nothing for transparency?
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: don't see anything for transparency. what it would do is if i brought zmud ot the front, the black background would show whatever i'm watching with basically the aardwolf text over top
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: sounds like it was a bug they fixed
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: it's a bug i liked tho. lol
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Divorced Robbo makes sweet love to his iPhone.
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Divorced Robbo Tech: Oh, this isn't the Tech sex channel? Sorry.
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: So happy =) Now on Windows 7 RC 1. MUSHClient seems all good. Do I still need the newer addins for chat and bigmap?
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: any zmud gurus on?
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: Depends on what exactly you need
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: simple question on expression triggers
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: Ask and ye (maybe) shall receive. ;-)
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: expression triggers cause zmud to crash if i set it to fire any alias
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: wierd
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: Sounds like you've got a loop in the code
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: im testing to see if a variable=1, then if the variable=1, i set it back to 0 and do an alias
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: shouldn't be a loop i think
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: What does the alias do?
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: sends a list of commands to the mud.. drink eat sleep etec
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: I'm not much of a programmer... you might want to post the code on the tech board and see if someone else can answer the question.
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: it allows you to name something for short... for example you can alias word 'do' to send "eat;drink;sleep;wake,etc"
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: so when you type 'do' all those things will be sent to the mud instead of 'do'
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: ok thx anyway
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: read 'help detect good' for the syntax on how to use the spell
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: sorry mis
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: what's the escape sequence for a tab?
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: ffs
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: why is php so utterly naff and incapable of doing anything?
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Li'l Bunny Zhalt Tech: I'd say it's you are who are naff and incapable of making PHP doing things :P
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: are you sure its php?
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Li'l Bunny Zhalt Tech: What are you trying to do?
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's capable of doing anything the programmer is competent enough to program?
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: well it's timing out trying to read a 1k text file
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Li'l Bunny Zhalt Tech: How are you trying to read it? :O
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: isnt that your webserver timeout thing?
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: read in a text file, or process a text file?
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: yeah, gentoox, their php server is naff it seems
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: php server? err i thought php is a language
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: php server is not web server
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Li'l Bunny Zhalt Tech: It's the code, mate ;) Somewhere, someone fucked up their logic!
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: load php onto your local box, run your code, and see what it's really trying to do, and how long it takes to process
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Li'l Bunny Zhalt Tech: Is it your code? or are you just trying to access someone elses script and it's not answering?
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: its the config for timeout in the web server
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Li'l Bunny Zhalt Tech: Reading a 1k txt-file should not trigger no timeouts!
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gentoox, maybe...if he's expecting it to take .2 seconds, and it's really taking 2 minutes, that's not because of a webserver setting ;-)
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: then he cant really say its php thats processing it.  even if the site has .php extension
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are you sure that the path you've given for the file is valid according to php's scope?
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: he refers to it as "their server"
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's hosted webserver
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Li'l Bunny Zhalt Tech: if it's on another server it could be anything. The server could be overloaded, a router could be broken. His net could be lagging..
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: so it is his code running on the hosted server?
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: router & net lag would impact display of the non-php pages
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Li'l Bunny Zhalt Tech: Yep :)
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: other problem i've got is trying to get it to tokenise based on a tab
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: which it doesn't appear capable of doing
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Li'l Bunny Zhalt snickers softly.
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: dont you have a local development environment to test before deployment on hosted servers?  it really helps.
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i don't, and it'd not make it any easier
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you're pretty much just trying to import/export a tab-delimited file?
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: yep, abe
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you do, you're choosing not to...
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i do what?
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unless you have no computers, and you're MUDding from a phone, you have a local test environment if you choose to
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i don't need a local test environment
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, you can just do everything the slow way
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Li'l Bunny Zhalt Tech: = file('yourfile.txt'); foreach( as  {  = split("t",  var_dump( }
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Li'l Bunny Zhalt Tech: $data = file('yourfile.txt'); foreach($data as $row) { $cols = split("\t", $row); var_dump($cols); }
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Li'l Bunny Zhalt Tech: Not that hard :)
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it isn't slow at all
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you're quickly getting it to not work...
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: cheers for that zhalt, split looks like the simpler option
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Li'l Bunny Zhalt Tech: np :)
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: hehe split is usually the option used when tokenizing strings.
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: in php that is
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Li'l Bunny Zhalt Tech: If you have a fixed set of cols, you can use list to automatically asign them ie, list($id, $title, $company) = split("t", 
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Li'l Bunny Zhalt Tech: If you have a fixed set of cols, you can use list to automatically asign them ie, list($id, $title, $company) = split("t", $row);
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: what's this var_dump thing?
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Li'l Bunny Zhalt Tech: oh, it just outputs the data to the screen
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: just display
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: change it to your logic
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the local test environment would immediately tell you whether the issue is in the code, or something to do with the webhosting environment or settings...it really does have a major impact on the development process
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: ta
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it stops you from having to beat your head against the wrong wall
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Li'l Bunny Zhalt Tech: True. But you also need to carry code on your local system meaning a security risk if said code is not for the public eye.
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: for the level and frequency of coding php, it's just not worth it
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Li'l Bunny Zhalt Tech: I work against a remote server daily, and have been doing so for a long time. Works perfect.
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Li'l Bunny Zhalt Tech: Edit the files directly at the server via SFTP using Zend. :)
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you only need to keep code on your machine when you're dealing with it...and in this instance, it would have answered in 3 seconds whether this was a webserver timeout, a net/router issue, or bad code
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: work live normally...work locally to troubleshoot
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: everything else out of the equation, see how long the code really takes to process the request when you get a timeout
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Li'l Bunny Zhalt Tech: True :)
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: and there are ways to code not visible to public eyes *grins*
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: and there are ways for your code to not be visible to public eyes *grins*
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The All Darkknowing claps at GentooX's performance.
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GentooX bows before The All Darkknowing.
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: lol, think this typo was psychological: $titlerow = array_shit($pcs)
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valdemar Tech: Yo! I am using the Aard client for the first time on a Mac! Pretty nifty.
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: I recently just started seeing the {help} {helpbody} {/help} stuff whenever i view a help here on the aardclient running on an ubuntu 9.04 through wine any ideas on how to get rid of it?
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Searon Tech: read through help tags
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Its in the tags helpfile
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: type tags
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Searon Tech: more specifically you can type tags helps off
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: ahh thanks
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: who here knows linux?
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: me, he's an old mate of mine
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rude boy Hhugo grins evilly at Swalec.
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: do you really know about linux swal?
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: to some extent
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: i might can help
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: you ever dual booted a distro with vista?
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: ok lemme explain my problem real quick
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: fraid not
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: well, there went my help, I have never run vista
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: i wish i wasn't
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: it takes up two primary partitions on the disk
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: so I don't have enough for a boot loader, the swap, and then the last partition that linux needs
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Let me conjecture: I think the only thing that has to be primary is the boot partition, you can do extended partitions for the rest (take it with a grain of salt)
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: yeah?
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I don't see why it wouldn't work
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: i tried making them all extended but that didn't work... i will try with the boot partition primary
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I think he's correct -- last dual boot I do was wubi
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: if you can put linux on a loopback, you should be able to use an extended
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: ok then I will do that... unless can i just get rid of that stupid second partition that it makes?
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: i think it is just for backup and recovery stuff
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: i really wish i didn't need vista on this laptop... that would make it so much easier
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: this dual booting is such a pain in my arse
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thayaric Tech: im often stoned and go running campaigns etc. having forgot to check the potion situation in my bag, running into trouble and getting iced by mobs. I use mushclient. How do i write a script that can check the potion situation for me every 5 mins or so and if pot num falls below say 10 pots reminds me to go shopping for more?
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: theres a nice potion plugin for mush
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thayaric Tech: i dont want autopots or anything like that. i just want reminding pots are running low and its time to buy some
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: the plugin just keeps track of pots, tells you how many are left
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thayaric Tech: ok sounds what im looking for, what version does it require? i use the pre-miniwindows version on the aard site. will i need upgrade? and where the plugin found?
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Priestess Maluea Tech: which affects sharpness more, resolution or dpi?
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: it's called pquaff -- google should fine it for you. It works on all the versions I've tried
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thayaric Tech: ty swalec <3
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackbliss Tech: ow do i do triggers
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: blackbliss, check out the helps in your client
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you go to www.mushclient.com, there's a search button...if you type "potions plugin" and do the search, it's the very first hit ;-)
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: um
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: how do i stop my keyboard from typing for itself in gentoo?
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: anyone??
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: can you be a bit more specific? how do you mean typing for itself
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thayaric Tech: hmmm this plugin for potions appears a touch cranky. it cant seem to autodetect how many pots there are. using the plugin to buy pots doesn't add them to the total. not really what i was after
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: you have to type pots then it works
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thayaric Tech: am i going to have to set the num manually everytime i buy pots?
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thayaric Tech: i can read, i did that
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: no, it reads the number from your inventory
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: you have to set both name of the pot and the description
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: for example, mine is current configured with healpot=soothing, healdesc=Soothing Melody
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thayaric Tech: i got 40+ hp and 40+ mp in my bag. they at top of bag but for complete bag list enter is needed, however the pots are at the top. i type pots, it tells me i have no pots left when i use hp/mp
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: have you set the potins bag up correctly
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thayaric Tech: do i need set healdesc and manadesc too?
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: yes, otherwise, how will it know how many potions you have
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: what pots do you use?
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thayaric Tech: i thought it used the keywords of seekers60heal and seekers60mana
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: no, how would it be able to do that? 
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thayaric Tech: that'll be the prob then :)
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: you want to do something like healpot=healing, healdesc=Potion of Healing
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it can only see what you see when you look in the bag ;-)
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: then pots -- the pots should be highlighted if it's got them
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thayaric Tech: ty that seems to have done the trick
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: good stuff, have fun with it
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: swalec i mean  Os &s and Enters keep typing themselves in all windows
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: swalec i mean  Os &s and Enters keep typing themselves in all windows
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: are you sure the keyboard is not broken? 
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: sure.
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: is it hapening any time? or is it coming from another peripherial?
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Li'l Bunny Zhalt Tech: Anyone had problems with Ubuntu 9.04 completely freezing up in X during normal usage (Both times in Firefox, I think)... Nvidia card using the latest drivers.
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: I have a question about Cmud
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: that looked a bit more like a statement
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: thanks :)
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tutal listens intently for Furen's question
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: but I cannot set the macro of lets say F12 on cMud
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: in fact my F1 - F12 will not set at all as macros. Any clue?
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: some keys are special to the OS, I believe there's nothing you can do to override them.  HOWEVER...
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: hold on a sec and lemme look it up...
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: you can try playing around with the 'allow any key to be a macro' checkbox in preferences.  It's in the Command Line section of the General Prefs.
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: thanks. let me take a look at that
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: nope.. :(
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: is anyone here proficient in cMud?
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: best to stick with zmud unless you're comfortable mucking about in scripts
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: well had to go to cMud b/c of vista :(
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: good, at least i wasn't the only one
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: zmud runs fine on vista
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: zmud > vista
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: No, it doesn't
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes it does
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are dozens of players who use zmud on vista
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Every time, and i mean every, i try to run zmud it immidiately says that it has stopped working
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: ok Darkknowing do you use your F1 - F12 key for macros
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Nope. still using mush mostly until i get all my setting right in cMud
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: ok, just wondering b/c i cannot get certain Fxx keys to work as macros
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: i think its under prefs and you select the check box that says use any key for macro
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: did that and i still cannot use all keys for example the F12 key
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: No idea then
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what happens when you press f12?
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: if you figure it out at some time just let me know
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: Abelinc, it just moves it to the open new file folder
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what version of cmud?
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: 2.37
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the use all thing didn't work right until 1.06
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: 2.37
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: woops
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Osteel Tech: Is anyone using the MUSHclient?
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drednaught Tech: nope my brain is too lazy to learn new ways of doin things.... i stick with tintin ish clients
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: plenty of people use MUSHclient, osteel
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Osteel Tech: Oh great. How do I make it so chat is only in my chat window? (I did it before...)
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drednaught Tech: !? good point! MANY people use mush. the "nope" was me specific
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "chats echo off"
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Osteel Tech: Thanks!
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Osteel Tech: Is it possible to also change the background of the chat/main Aardolf window to white?
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Osteel Tech: The black with neon colours really hurts my eyes.
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you ever forget, here's 2 places to find that info...(1) the aard website where the MUSHclient is, there's a FAQ and a plugins page describing options for the plugins...(2) go to file -> plugins, click to select Aardwolf_chats plugin, and click Show Info...it has the command there as well
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, you can do whatever you want with the colors
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Osteel Tech: So where would I fiddle with the colour scheme?
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to game -> configure -> ANSI colors
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: each window is a separate "world", so they all have entirely separate game -> configure sets...whichever one is in front when you select it is the one you're changing
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: meh, my keyboad is still going all screwey
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Osteel Tech: Oh, so I assume the Black refers to anything black ... including the background?
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Osteel Tech: Oh, I was just about to ask that too, since I only wanted to change the main window. haha.
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: The one with the B on it is the background
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: So, yes.
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: the nkpEnt is ndefined
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: weird ...
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Or you can check the box at the bottom, and it'll use whatever you have as custom color 16 as the backgaround
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: (go to custom colors to change that one)
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Leinei.
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Aard doesn't send anything in "normal black", so easiest just to change that one.
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you just want to subdue the neon colors, try clicking on "less color" a couple times
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Osteel Tech: Testing
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Osteel Tech: Well I just messed it up. Is there a way to put colour back to default?
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: hit the default button.
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: in that same screen
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: or "reset colors" or something of that sort
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: click the top button, ansi colors
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Oh, actually, nods, that
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: arch my keyboard is still typing for itself
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (dumb name, it should be reset)
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: abelinc how do i fix the /def key_nkpEnt = message thats spamming me?
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Osteel Tech: Phew, saved. Thanks
T1/r7/2009-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vampire, is the message that you're seeing "% The key "nkpEnt" is undefined; you may use "/def key_nkpEnt = <commands>" to define it.  See "/help keys"."?
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: how do i recall a variable in cmud?
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: What do you mean?
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Nevermind, i got it
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: ...
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: hmm say i want to sort a list of numbers in zmud, not using the %sort command, how would i go about doing it?
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: manually
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: use bubble sort
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: its super fast :P
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: yeah i'm reading on it now
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: its the slowest sort algorithm i thought
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: no in zmud its the fastest
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: hmm zmud is so primitive it doesn't even allow you to insert items into a string list
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: that would help with sorting
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: So, this is a bit late, but I'm at work.  The bubble sort is in no way the slowest or least efficient sort.  Look up the stooge sort, bogo sort, and bozo sort for creatively inefficient sorting.
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: in the aardclient, is there a way to keep the chat out of the main window since theres already a chat window?
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: or keep the bigmap from popping up
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: anyone?
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: In what client wissie?
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: In mush you type bigmap auto off
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: the aardclient you get fromt he webpage
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Ok, then type bigmap auto off and it should work
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: kk, thanks, anyway to keep the chat out of the main window?
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: type chats echo off
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: awesome thanks :-D
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: no problem
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: the bigmap still pops up if i move :(
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: and the chat still echos :S
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: is there a command like invdata for searching bags?
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: invdata
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: bah, sorry,
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: for examining bags
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: there is, but I don't remember what it is.  Nick made use of it.
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: hrm... not posted.
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: hm? 
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: On MUSHclient's forums.  Nick was making a plugin to make an inventory window.  He never posted the full code, though.
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: inventory window would be settled with invdata
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?id=8936&page=1
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: nice
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: thx
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: and yup it doesnt show how he accessed invdetails for items in bags
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: as I said, it wasn't posted.
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: invdata <idnum>
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: ooo yes tts it thx
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: 'invdata 135104453' showed me inside the bag
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: hrm... can't invdata items in a container, though.
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: was never posted because the MUDside things were never finished...just got past proof of concept
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: hmm its good enough as is.. just needed the id numbers
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: thx
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: no, was never posted because the tabbed windows didn't work.
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: both ;-)
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: for what I was saying, it's Nick's reason.  I know that the commands are completely undocumented here.
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not just completely undocumented, incomplete for nick's purposes
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: how do i get my zmud client to interpret the color codes sent by the mud?   etc
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: ~ ~ etc
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the color settings, you need to tell it what code is used for each color, if you mean so you can paste colored stuff and it automatically adding the @r & similar
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: put the @ into the one box, and just the r/g/y stuff next to the colors
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: oh yea i did that.. what abt if i want to copy the output from the mud and have my client remember those ansi colors?
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: what client are you using?
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: to be clearer, i want to echo @RAardwolf @YAura of Sanctuary@w to my own window from a variable where it is stored in zmud
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: and i want the @R and @Y etc codes to be interpreted by zmud 7.21 back to the ansi color codes
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: any idea>
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: me, no.  I don't use zmud.  No idea how to do colours there.
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: ahh thx
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Searon Tech: for colour in zMUD you use the %ansi() command
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: i know tht
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: need to know how to get zmud to interpret @G and @W for example back to their corresponding ansi codes
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Searon Tech: hmm
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Searon Tech: could be tricky seeing as is interpreted as a variable in zmud
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: yea thats the problem
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Searon Tech: @ even :P not sure if zmud has some special character that you can put infront to make it not consider it a variable
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: ~?
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Searon Tech: like you use  infront of something like (
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Searon Tech: yeah
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Searon Tech: ~ I meant
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: Use a tilda.
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: ~
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Searon Tech: would also need to tell it to stop with the first character after @ so it doesn't take the whole word :P
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: tt would be easy
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: hmm
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: seems like a big hassle just to echo item names to my screen same color as in the mud
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Searon Tech: it sure does :P
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: is there anyway i can echo item names in my screen same color as the mud then?
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: much easier in MUSHclient.  I just generated a table of colour codes and passed the Aard colour code into it.
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: zmud uses lua, right?
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: nm... that's cmud.
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: cmud i think not zmud
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: ah tt means i have to be content with single color item name echoes
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Searon Tech: I think zmud uses it's own sort of thing and then perl as a bit extra
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: can you make tables?
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: nope
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: i'd have to manually make variables setting Each color code like @g against the ansi value
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: can you localize the variables to a class?  You could just make the green colour a variable called g and bold green to be G.
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: that way you don't have to worry about escaping the evaluation.
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: If you want to use lua, go with mushclient.
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I agree, but we're talking about zmud's... whatever they call that scripting.
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: hmm yeah i can localise them 
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: but i wouldn't like to have variables called @W for example, as i already have w as a variable for "west" 
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Searon Tech: why have a variable for west? if you don't mind me asking :P
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: oh to keep track of my last direction moved and such
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Searon Tech: interesting
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: Well, zMUD uses zscript and Perl.
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Searon Tech: and MSscript whatever that is
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: Yeah, I never bothered coding in that language, so dunno.
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: Why have a variable for west? Does it change for some reason for you?
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: ah my bad i have an alias for newusd but not variables
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: You can make a variable that has the same name as an alias then.
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it's odd that you design a "standards compliant" website using Microsoft Expressions, and yet it won't display properly on Internet Explorer 8 unless you use the compatibility mode, what gives?
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: you give... to microsoft...
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i give to microsoft? what, vd?
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Li'l Bunny Zhalt Tech: Standard compliant and microsoft is an oxymoron.
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Li'l Bunny Zhalt Tech: IEtester. A utility no webprogrammer wants to be without! It allows you to run IE6, IE7 and IE8 all on the same computer! :D
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: was their attempt to become standards complaint
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: can someone help me get my aliases and triggers working in mush? i don't know what i 'm doing wrong
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: why does the Skype installer on Windows download something during the installation process?
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: on Linux it just downloads itself off the bat :P
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Isamaru Tech: anyone use mushclient?
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: is anyone good at scripting in cMud or at least able to convert zMud to cMud?
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: There's a script converter that comes with cMUD.
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cavour Tech: I use zmud, and wrote triggers to announce when spells are out in color and caps so I see them better
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cavour Tech: but zmud things the whole line after " is code, how do i turn that off
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cavour Tech: after the ampersand
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lynel Tech: is anyone on that is familiar with C++ i have a really quick question
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lynel Tech: ill take that as a no =D
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lynel Tech: figured it was worth a shot
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: I know i've probably asked this before but is there a good resource for aardwolf tintin++ scripts?
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: i'm trying to figure out how to script with tintin, is there a way of recording the next line of output into a variable, or something to that effect?
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: I think what you are looking for is #ACTION
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: only looked at TT++ briefly so I'm not really able to point you much further along than that.
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's best to know better what you're trying to trigger/capture, but if necessary, trigger on just anything...not sure if that could be "" or if it would need a *
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your best help for tintin stuff is try to find cartman when he's not afk
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: i'm trying to make a room locater for cp mobs
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: so i'll hunt each one in turn until it says i can't hunt for some reason
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I can help with pretty much anything tinyfugue-related, much of the MUSHclient stuff, and an occasional zmud question ;-)
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for that you don't need to trigger on any next line...
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: you can't hunt your cp mob.
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: trigger on the hunt messages (no path, or a direction)...
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: what you'd need is a database of mobs/rooms that your script would search
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you want to do a while or for type thing where you're incrementing a variable
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lashan, he's trying to make a 'hunt trick' script
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: oh!
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: help hunt trick for details ;-)
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: yeah, i know it's probably already been done but i'd like to give it a go
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: depends on how automatic you want it to be .< .>
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: stupid parsing.
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: basically, you'd have an alias hunttrick or something...that alias would put the name of the MOB into a variable and do hunt guard...
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd make a trigger for no path, and for your hunt prac %'s current message, as well as the unable message
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it gets either of the first 2, then hunt <thatNumber+1>...if it gets the unable message, then where @target
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but yes, you tier twice
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mis
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: right, that's the method i had in mind, i just wasn't sure how to take input, so i'll work out a way to use action for it?
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: is there a way of enabling and disabling actions so they only work when i'm doing the hunt trick?
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do something like #T0 upon the where action
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: three ways, clean, mostly clean, and dirty
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: one, if all the pieces are part of one class, disable the class, second is if you can disable individual triggers, do that as needed.
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: the dirty way is to have a variable that you set for whether they should be active or not, and have the trigger check for that variable while it's executing...(*shudder*)
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: ah just found you can unaction
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did classes exist already in tt?
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: unaction will probably *delete* rather than disable
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: but i don't know TT. my advice was fairly generic.
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: which may mean bad :)
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for my stuff in tinyfugue, I totally undefine/delete my trigs when not in use so they're not resident...but I'm kind of a stickler for efficiency
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: yeah it does delete it, but i could create it at the start of the function and delete it at the end
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod gnid
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: *true*
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have the alias create the trigs
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: yeah, that's fairly clean i suppose
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: thanks, i'll get going with it
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: i just switched to mush, and on my old client i had an alias that was very simply 'o e
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: er 'o s, o e, etc' but i don't know how to translate that to mush, any help?
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: What the heck does the "'o s" bit mean?  What was your old client?
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he wants to open north/south/east/etc I think
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: he had a check for doors in all dirs :p
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: yeah
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: she :)
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to do multiple actions in MUSH, instead of using ; to separate, put the command on separate lines
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: just enter them into a new alias.  ctrl-shift-9 brings up the alias menu.  Click on "add"
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: you're a 'he until all reasonable doubt is dealt with and honestly it doesn't matter for purposes of this question.
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you don't remember the f-keys, game -> configure -> aliases :-)
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: i tried that but it says 'you did not find a n'
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: unless it needs to be spelt out?
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: there are no women on the internet.
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: typing out the commands fully is almost always a good idea.
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: I suspect op would be unique enough.
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it should say There is no door to the north of here. if there's no door that way
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I use /def oa = op n %; op s %; op e %; op w %; op u %; op d
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i suppose there is no man either
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: whats the /def oa ?
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: the name of the alias?
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: I assume oa is short for open all.
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: alright thanks :D
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: for the same I go oo *shrugs* personal preferences.
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's define a macro with the name oa...
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not MUSH syntax as I use tinyfugue
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: macros are for people with aluminum pots.
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: oo? open oll?
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: only one key to press, if you typo the 'o' twice you're screwed regardless.
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: what would make it mush syntax? i'm painfully new to all this
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wissie, MUSH is a GUI client...look for the pretty pictures and labels ;-)
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as was mentioned, either use the fkey or game -> configure -> aliases to start, then click add
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the top thin box is where you put in what it is you want to type to activate it
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: i did that, the text is entered, but its still not working properly
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the big box in the middle is what you want it to send to the MUD
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: i know
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what do you have in the big middle box?
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: what you had op n %
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [02 Jul 21:07:41] Abelinc Tech: to do multiple actions in MUSH, instead of using ; to separate, put the command on separate lines
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: kk, must've missed that
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's why it's such a huge box...you can hit enter and make it look just like you would expect
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: abe uses a client that separates via
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: i'm sorry, its still not working.. i have them on seperate lines and i have it spelt out 'open north %' (without quotes) but its still telling me 'you did not find a north %' :(
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: i've got the hunttrick script working btw
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: abe is using TF, strip the % and everything should work :P
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: yay!!! :D thank you! :D
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: told you i was terrible at this .)
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: has anyone made i script using the gaardian site for room lookups?
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that site is like a week old...
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: i just found out about it today
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: once or twice.  Water is water, though
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: Anyone have vista? If so have you installed sp2 for vista?
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I have Vista, but I'm not sure if I'm using SP2.
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: Can check under windows updates, view available
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: I'm just wondering if its safe to install, or if there are known issues like there were with the other sp2's for xp.
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Well, it seems to be in, I only see minor updates available.
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I would assume SP2 would be a single option on the list if it hadn't already been installed.
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: So when you click view available sp2 is not listed in windows vista?
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: Must mean you installed it, or it was done automatically... and you don't have any operation issues?
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yeah. There's an SP2 upgrade, but that's only for Office.
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Nope, none, but I don't usually push the envelope. I only use Vista for browsing and open PuTTY to MUD.
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: Ok thanks. I guess I can give it a shot and restore if anything gets screwy.
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Good luck there :)
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Priestess Maluea Tech: is there a reason why zmud would be dispalying my map and score "crooked" like with random line breaks?
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: what font are you using?
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: font?
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: used monospace font
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gonf is agreeing with that GentooX person again...
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Priestess Maluea Tech: monspace thank you
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Priestess Maluea Tech: ive been trying diff fonts, but none have worked yet
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: which OS?
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Priestess Maluea Tech: xp
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Priestess Maluea Tech: but new xp, which is strange i know. it's for a net book
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: try courier new
T1/r7/2009-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Priestess Maluea Tech: awsome ty
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: i have a problem
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: i need to disable how firefox auto suggests sutff
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: stop looking up naughty things, that'll be easier
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: and ideally clear my web history
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: shhh
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: its youporn that is suggested instead of youtube and my sister is coming, i need to fix this
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: how old is your sister
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: 2 years older
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: but i have no desire for her to have a look into my habits
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: haha. 
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: how can this be done?
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, easily
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: how?
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: new computer
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tools menu
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use the one that makes sense ;-)
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: settings, privacy, clear private data
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: something like that. i just found it for ya
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: firefox don't need settings
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: clear private data?
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Aw, he's on a quest...
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, clear private data
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: btw, you can set firefox to always clear the private data at the end of every session
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: I do that because my 12 year nephew visits
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Phalae hugs you. 
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: how?
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for that one you do need settings ;-)
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: I really have no wish to let him see some of those web pages
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tools, options, privacy tab
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: i already have that checked off though?
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it helps to just look at what options exist in settings panels of programs...you'll learn how to do tons of their "advanced" stuff
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you have what checked off?
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: always clear private data
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: ohh
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: click settings there & select WHAT you want it to be clearing
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: the keep data for 10 days prolly cancelled it out even though i havent been anywehre er shameful lately
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: oh! got it! thank you one and all!
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: it didnt hav browsing history on the list to clear it
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Phalae hugs PowerPacks Allyria.
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Now at least you'll be able to hide your abuse of the Internet
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Remind Hargreaves grins evilly.
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Is there a good program that you can set to automatically shut off your computer after a set amount of time/at a set point of time?
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: scheduled tasks would work fine for that
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we run a scheduled task on one computer that sends a shutdown signal to all computers after closing...then it sends a WoL signal to power them on in the morning in time for our updates to go through
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I see. Thanks.
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: But can it be used to shut down the same computer itself? And how?
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we use the shutdown command
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: works to shut itself down, or to shut down remote machines
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: including having a GUI interface, if you want
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: at a command prompt, type "shutdown /?" to see how to use it
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: OK, thanks
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-)
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: grunt, turbolister is a pile of old crap
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ebay have really shot themselves in the foot by forcing sellers to offer free postage
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: I'm trying to watch ff7 advent children on internet, there is this really annoying beep in the background, its like a stick hitting a drum almost. anyone know what this is?
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: I think it might be a pop-up automatically getting blocked
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: Anybody use GMail Drive? Is it still working?
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I haven't used it in ages, but can't imagine why it wouldn't work still.
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain Flygo Tech: is it possible to set an alias on here to change the semicolon key to a full colon?
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: No, but you can do it in your client.
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain Flygo Tech: what if i don't use a client?
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Then you're just SOL. :P
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Captain Flygo grins evilly at Charitable Charneus.
T1/r7/2009-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Thing is, where else do you use ; other than run prefix?
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: on mush, how is the plugin reloaded? is there a reload function we can override on reconnection?
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: meh, can't remote desktop to my home computer, how incredibly rude
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Komrad Kessel Tech: is that because you are shit?
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no, it's because M$'s error messages are not terribly helpful
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: Because of an error in data encryption, this session will end
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: didn't anyone tell microsoft that you shouldn't start a sentance with "because"?
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: they speak MS, not english
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they speak american
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: which is worse
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so given i can remote desk everywhere else, and given that all the blurb on m$'s site about this error is about windows 2000, anyone care to shed any light on it?
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: What version of Windows are you using there and at home?
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: here, xp pro x64, at home, xp pro x32
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: quick question, #if (%1=name|another name) {~finger someone} {~finger %1}, what is needed around the "name|another name" to make it work
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: generally quotes or parenthesis
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: hmmm quotes failed me
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: parenthesis worked
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so who has used Lotus Symphony?
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Anyone use tt++, or at least know how to make it save your aliases and such?
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the best help you'll get for tt++ is from Cartman, but he's afk currently
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can use the #write command to save all aliases, actions, etc to a file
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I stick my alises in a file and then load them from the file
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: IMO it's much better to edit files manually in a text editor
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you can organize them by function
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and call read functions on startup or connect to set up the client
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chamomile Tech: on the "Top Mud Sites" webpage, what does it mean when it says 500 in and 300 out? (numbers not exact)
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: I'm using a mud client that does not have mccp built in, therefore I'm using the mccp proxy that was available on the aardwolf website... my question is, is there a way to hide that client window, put it in the system tray or something?
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: the mccp proxy client window I mean
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's just a DOS window...whatever you know how to do to a dos window you can do to that window ;-)
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's a much nicer/newer client available if you finger arkanes
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Anyone know how to turn off echo in tt++?
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Is it normal for the bigmap window to foreground itself when changing locations? Can that behavior be suppressed?
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bigmap auto off
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: awesome
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaymez Tech: I have asked before and I went to the forum for adding a spellup on others and tryd to figure it out. but cant is there someone that might have the time to explain it to me or is it a long process?
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what client?
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaymez Tech: I using mush and have been to gammons forum 
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you want http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=8780
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you are on the forums and say search, and type in aardwolf spellups plugin...it's the first, second, third, and fourth entries ;-)
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arakah Tech: can any one tell me how i can get aardwolf on my phone excluding mixt
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pocketputty, midpssh
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: dagnir does that via putty.
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for all 3, it's best to have a "real" MUD client running that you use your phone to access remotely
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arakah Tech: via putty?
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I use tinyfugue, which is always running on a computer at home...connect to home, resume my tinyfugue screen session, and I have 100% of my capabilities
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I also have a copy of tinyfugue set up on free shell servers to connect through if something ever happens to the home computer ;-)
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: as long as you have your tf files backed up too.... *ducks*
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arakah Tech: my com does nt have internet so im using mxit on the phone too do this... Wat am i missing out when using phone rather than comp 
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I copy my ~/.tf-dir regularly between the systems :-)
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: if your phone can connect, why not use it as your modem?
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: arakah, you're missing the features of a decent client, and 2QPs per quest
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: connect phone to computer, and phone to Internet...gives computer Internet access
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arakah Tech: i have a comp cable but from there i am lost bt ill find a way thanks for ur help
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: Anyone use Open Office Draw?
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Phalae peers around herself intently.
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I don't
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezcatlipoca Tech: anyone good at prgramming mushclient, trying to set up a tone to go off when its time to quest
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's easy :-)
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game -> configure -> triggers
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: click Add, put the message the MUD sends into the top thin box
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezcatlipoca Tech: thats what I thought but how do I attach sounds to it?
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the bottom-right is a box that says Sound :P
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tezcatlipoca slaps himself on the head and yells, "DOH!"
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezcatlipoca Tech: thankee again Abe
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: click browse & find a sound you like
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Wounded) SealPoint Tech: I highly recommend a wav file Of Homer saying D'Oh for you trigger :)
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: in zmud, is there a way that if i put in a command, like say Huntstop, it'll stop a looping trigger?
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezcatlipoca Tech: ooh! thats a good one!
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the usual Windows sounds are found in C:\windows\media
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: stapleface, sure you can do that
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can turn off the hunt trigger's class
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods at you in agreement. 
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: There are hunt scripts out there already that does that for you, though.
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: charn'll need to help with the syntax, but something like #T- <name>
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: That's correct, Abelinc. :)
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: ok, who here is familiar with zmud scripting
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: What do you need?
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i have an autohunt script that is working pretty good, the only issue i have is if i put in #t- autohunt it doesn't reenable afterwards
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: basically, i want it so if a door is locked and i don't have a key to auto stop, and if i type in a command it'll stop
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: whatever you type to start the autohunt...have that use another action of #T+ autohunt
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Because you have to enable it later. Usually, put triggers in their own trigger folder (AutoHuntTrigs, for example), then with your alias, it turns on the class. When you're done, it turns off the folder.
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: isn't working
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: That says a lot.
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: hunstop reads #t- autohunt, and hunt has #t+ autohunt. 
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Is 'hunt' in the autohunt folder?
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Then of course it won't work.
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Do what I said. Put the triggers in a different folder, like AutohuntTriggers. Then #T+/- that folder instead.
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Don't put the alias to activate the folder IN the folder that is disabled...
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: gotcha
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: gotcha. lemme try now
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i love you. lol. i been trying to figure this out for a few days now... 
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: ... thanks?
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: just savin me a huge headache. now i can hunt in peace. :p
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaymez Tech: is there someone that can help me with the mushclient spellup others plugin
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oooska Tech: In MUSHclient, can I refer to a variable in an alias without the need for a script?
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oooska Tech: Is it a simple character before the name, or something more complicated? The MUSHclient help files don't mention it from what I saw
T1/r7/2009-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oooska Tech: Ah ha, sign. . . the one damn sign on the keyboard I didn't try before asking for help, naturally, heh
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: bast here?
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Finger says he's been offline for a day and a half.
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus looks around and whistles innocently.
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Does mushclient have a line escape character like tt++ uses '/' to send an entire line without parsing?
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Anyone know offhand how to set up a routing IP in Linux?
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: I've read the ifconfig manual a few times and can't find anything.
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: you need to look more at route, ifconfig won't help you here
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: i've always done it as "ifconfig wlan0 <ipaddr>" then "route add default gw <routeraddr>
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Ahh, sweet. Thanks, both of you.
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: if you're running a popular distro like SuSE, you can do that via GUIs, otherwise google for "linux route NAT"
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Yeah, I don't use a GUI...
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: oh, you mean just adding a route?
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon nods.
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: I thought you wanted your box to act as a router :) Adding a route is easy, yes - route add default gw <ip>. Might need to add a dev section there if you have several devices under the same subnet
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Cool. I'll reboot and give it a shot -- if I'm back in less than 5 minutes, it probably worked. :P
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: or if it's a pptp connection or so, it'd be route add default dev <device-for-channel?
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: anybody knows what the last four numbers of invdata mean?
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetcuti Tech: i am using zmud. i use aliases and triggers, but when i log off, i have to reset them. i also have to reset the font size in the game. is there a reason why this is happening? any help?
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: You're on Vista?
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetcuti Tech: no.. XP home
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Your settings files are not being saved for whatever reason. Check to see that any file with .mud as an extension isn't set to read only.
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetcuti Tech: aight checking..thanks
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetcuti Tech: nothing under aardwolf.mud is marked READ ONLY
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Hmmm. Not sure, then. Then again, I just woke up, too, so my brain isn't at full capacity right now. :\
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetcuti Tech: heh  understood.  thanks anyways 
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: gentoox, I am now
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetcuti Tech: if you can remember to look into it later i would appreciate it. :)
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Will try to remember. Got a lot going on today.
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: is it possible to set 2 divs on the same line or would i need to make it into a table to do that
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: is there a tag for bids?
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type tags ;-)
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: was looking at it and no
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the auction channel comes through as a channel
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: any ideas how some make colored stats for bids?
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: You'd probably have to trigger a check on the item.
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: As it's first being auctioned.
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Then sort out the stuff you want from the stuff you don't. :)
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, so you're actually looking to appraise the item, not looking at bids on the item
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's a much different thing
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: thanks :)
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: yes appraise the item sir abe
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the bid appraise output is the same as identify output, so having something that automatically parses ident output already help
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: That's true :)
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (of course, my initial reaction is "oh great, you're going to become another one of those ANNOYING people")
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: But it will be restrung on his end, so it wouldn't matter to you, would it?
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: truri, depends on what he's doing...look at panzer & habasi on barter
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Heh, I have barter off :P
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they blurt out color-coded stats of items on auction, even when others auctioned the items...if that's the goal, ick...I do have it give it a summary of total stats & DR when I use ident, lore, or bid
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, oops
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: yes, i was exactly referring to habasi and panzer
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: i have bid aliased so that it starts my item stat trigs, then sends bid <number> <optional second number>
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when I see an item from doing bid, it shows the normal output, then 2 lines...Total Stats = 2...Total DR = 2
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Anyone have anautohunt trigger handy for zmud? Why reinvent the wheel
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: You reinvent the wheel because otherwise we would still be using wooden oxcart wheels on cars, making for a bumpy ride.
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I have Atreides' old script. :P
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Balaam, smartass =p
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: some part of me has to be smart.  Certainly isn't my brain.
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Surprised atreis sites dead
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for a limited time only...http://homepage.mac.com/mikeride/abelinc/scripts/AutoHunt_v1.1.zip...do NOT ask Atreidess for help with this script (I don't use zmud, so asking me for help isn't likely to help either ;-)
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods.
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I actually have all his scripts saved, as well. But only give them out if they swear up and down they won't bug Atreidess for help. ;)
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: nod, I won't. Was friends with atrei forever ago
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Thanks abelinc
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he didn't intentionally take down the site, was an issue at Forestseer's provider end
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: swearing isn't allowed on public channels :p
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Oh shut up, Balaam.
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus forces a gag into Blessed Balaam's mouth.  Ahhh, blessed quiet.
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I can still type with this gag on.
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: good point...slash me pulls out a +1 mace and smashes your hands
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: He has toes, too.
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: And a nose.  And a USB jack on the side of my head.
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: speaking of which, anyone hear anything about the USB 3 progress?  Are they still aiming for early 2010?
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: wow, when did aardwolf get its own mudclient... lol... new to me
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: it didn't get its own client, it was built up really nice 
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Can of Pringle Tech: it got a custom version of Mushclient, it's different
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's just MUSHclient with a different installer
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Eh, close enough.
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: additional scripting and stuff
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's the standard MUSHclient, nothing different than what you get from gammon
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it just installs some scripts already
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Any idea what text the plugins for the hp/mana are based on? or just captured off a prompt
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: statmon
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: the stamon stuff
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: ^
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: oh wow, thats new too.... guess I've been away longer then I thought
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tags and statmon exist pretty much just so scripts can use them
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod, was messing with the tags, but didn't know about statmon
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Thats actually really slick
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, tags & statmon just hit 1 year old
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: yeah statom and tags were put to make it easy for people to make scripts/capture windows and plugins easier
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Sadly, probably indirectly makes it easier to bot
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: did light guild get a new site?
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Another Zmud question if I may... using #capture in zmud, with the chan tags.... is there a way to strip out part of the line using a capture? #window i can see how it would work, but then it doesn't pass the coloring from the mud
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: #gag i believe
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Gag hides the whole line
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: daloran, finger fiendish :-)
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's got a channel capture script using tags already
T1/r7/2009-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ooooo, nice nice.
T1/r7/2009-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Thank you much =)
T1/r7/2009-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Very nice
T1/r7/2009-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ahhh, #substitute would've done it, didn't think about that. *facepalm*
T1/r7/2009-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Surprised fiendishes script didn't do anything for tells
T1/r7/2009-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tells use separate tags from what channels use...
T1/r7/2009-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not {chan ch=channame}
T1/r7/2009-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I understand this
T1/r7/2009-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I'm just surprised he didn't write it to include tells as well
T1/r7/2009-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arista Tech: Hiya, is there anyone around who can give me a hand with the mushclient spellup script please? I've installed it, but I'm getting some error messages I can't figure out how to fix.
T1/r7/2009-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volans Tech: and you are using vista
T1/r7/2009-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arista Tech: That too
T1/r7/2009-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: what is tags telopts for?
T1/r7/2009-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tranquillity Tech: how do I set my mush client so that I can use the d pad to move instead of typing n, w, s, e?  thanks
T1/r7/2009-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: d pad?
T1/r7/2009-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: i think he means the number pad
T1/r7/2009-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tranquillity Tech: the number pad
T1/r7/2009-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tranquillity Tech: yeah :D
T1/r7/2009-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you mean the numeric keypad (numbers), then game -> configure -> keypad
T1/r7/2009-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tranquillity Tech: cheers.
T1/r7/2009-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nope, i don't understand why ie8 tries to render pages differently to other browsers (i.e, badly)
T1/r7/2009-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone know anything about it?
T1/r7/2009-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm going to have to rip my whole website apart just to try and work out why internet explorer 8 is so crappy
T1/r7/2009-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tigernuts snarls angrily.
T1/r7/2009-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: anyone know in mush client if i write an alias to just make it send a message to my main window?
T1/r7/2009-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: just for my own note not to the server
T1/r7/2009-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i got it
T1/r7/2009-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: what was it, I'd like to know
T1/r7/2009-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: afaik echo is free
T1/r7/2009-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: ok, thanks
T1/r7/2009-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: so you can tack on a few of those as an alert 
T1/r7/2009-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: cool
T1/r7/2009-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i don't think it counts as an action  see help echo
T1/r7/2009-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: i was turning the cmd line promy pff in ells, but accidently hid the mud output how do i get it back to show mud output in zmud ?
T1/r7/2009-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: not sure what you're missing
T1/r7/2009-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: ahh i found it..  a check box in general prefrences.. wasnt getting mud output and it was all grey for a bit :p thx tho
T1/r7/2009-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: yeah def the place to look
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: A Japanese company has announced a massive, 800 teraflop real-time ray tracing (RTRT) system that gangs together nine, 73-core chips into a single system that fits inside a desktop computer form factor.
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: 73-core?  That's a ridiculous number...  not a power of two.
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: nine 73-cre chips, no less.
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Angyer Tech: anyone using mushclient have a good moontracking pluggin?
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: can someone tell me what command in zmud brings up a little window for alerts or whatnot?  It shows whatever text I tell it to display
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: #MESS.
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: thank you
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods.
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: note
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Blessed Balaam hands UHHHHELPER Valefar a bag of crispy ntoes, and you immediately plot to steal them from him.
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: Actually, anyone able to answer a relatively obscure XP question?
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: Might be hardware based, I don't know.
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Well, ask away.
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: I've got a desktop which keeps on crashing suddenly.
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: And, well, I have no clue why it is doing what it is doing.
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Bad ram/vram?
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: I boot up, do various stuff for a couple of mins, then it crashes.
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: RAM/VRAM seems to be fine, but how would I go about testing it?
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: have you run memtest86?
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: you can't say it's fine until you run the tests.
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Achillis Tech: you might consider to buy a ram card
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: Is there any alternative to memtest86? I don't think I'm going to be able to burn the iso to disk at this point.
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Have any friends?  memtest86 is going to be the best test to run.
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: and there is a way to dump it to a flash drive.
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Achillis Tech: uhmm my xp on the start up it says an error something about a corrupt file what can i do ?
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: uncorrupt it.
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zogbad Tech: ntldr?
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Achillis Tech: howi dont know what file
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Hrm... sucks to be you.  Can you boot into safe mode?
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Achillis Tech: and then
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: It should really tell you what file is corrupted.
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Achillis Tech: oh oky
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: It was a question, not an instruction.  If you can boot into safemode, it means it's most likely a driver or extra program.
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Achillis Tech: oh oky thanx man
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: nothing in event log?
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: The desktop just crashed again :S
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: Was just trying to validate windows, with nothing else in background, and it crashed. No BSOD or anything.
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: And again, while it was booting up :S
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: Does it sound like RAM problem?
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Yeah, sounding like memory/cpu/motherboard problem.
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: valefar still here?
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: Yup, very much still here.
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: On a shoddy laptop :P
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: are you using IDE disks?
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: Not sure, the box isn't mine.
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: erm... crack it open?  :p
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: oh sorry, cause a bad cable also do a restart on your pc.  on startup there is suppose to be an option to disable automatic restart on system failure, info from it is also a valuable tool
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: The IDE is the connection?
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: Hmm, now it appears that every time I try to validate windows, the box crashes D:
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: I'm guessing this is a RAM/VRAM problem D:
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: validate how?
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: like log in?
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: Windows Validate, from a fresh install.
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: oh.
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: How do I go about checking which stick of ram is takin' rectally?
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: pull them out one at a time.
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: unless they're paired, then pull them out two by two.
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: And then?
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: and then turn it on.
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: The funny thing is, being on this laptop, I'm just as likely to go linkdead, due to the laptop overheating wildly :S
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: dude, computers hate you today.
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: mud from the refridgerator.
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: PCs hate me quite a lot lately :S
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: Haha, the box just froze while trying to load windows.
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: Now, RAM is removed. Next step? :P
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: UHHHHELPER Valefar waves a large bright rainbow sign reading "UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH"
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Secondhand Madcatz Tech: "Error:  An exception occurred."
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Secondhand Madcatz Tech: Worst error message ever
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: that's what happens when they put affirmative action in processors
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Priestess Maluea Tech: does anyone know why my options would have dissapeared on zmud. I cant access them at all
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xairk Tech: Hm
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xairk Tech: (moved) What Linux clients are people using?
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: TinyFugue!
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xairk Tech: does it run in X or from terminal?  I'm using GNOME-Mud, but I want something that'll run in a term, but with support for good stuff like colors and history, macros, etc.
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: It runs from the terminal. It's a nice, GUI-less client with support for lots of nice things.
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xairk Tech: I'll check it out, know offhand if it's in the Ubuntu repos?
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Probably an old version, but I recommend compiling 50b8
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: I know 4 something is in the debian repos
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xairk Tech: Okay, I'll compile that up now.
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Let me know if you run into any problems
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xairk Tech: if it's in debian repo, is likely in Ubuntu, but I'll get the latest and greatest.
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon smiles happily.
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xairk Tech: I'm using TinyFugue and it seems like the bottom line of text is being covered by a line that says _______(unnamed1)...  Anyone else have this issue?
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yay. vlc 1.0 is released
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xairk Tech: Really?
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xairk Tech: I never thought I'd see the day.
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: wait till foobar2k 1.0 comes out
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: or eac
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xairk Tech: Haven't used foobar since 0.667, or so.
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xairk Tech: I'm either playing music at work (in Pandora, or Rhythmbox), or at home on iTunes, or on my iPod these days.  My Windows PC just has headphones... :)
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: foobar is the best music player i've ever used
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: steep learning curve tho
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xairk Tech: It's definately fantastic.  I don't think it's too steep to get going, drag-and-drop some files in and press Play...
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xairk Tech: It has tons of advanced features that are a bit difficult to learn, though.
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i can't stand ipod ianything heh
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Anyone have any idea why i can't see yells anymore? I know its something client-side (MUSH) I have yell enabled on the mud, but it won't show up...
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're running the stock chat script instead of Fiendish's
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heinrich Tech: anyone know how/where the font on reading email is adjusted, my kid clicked something to make it 'big'
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heinrich, that'd be different for every email program
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: DK, did updating the script fix your yells?
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oooska Tech: Does anyone know if it's possible to have one alias make  a call to another alias?
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure is
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oooska Tech: Is there a particular character I'm suppose to put in front of the alias to specify that it should be processed?
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oooska Tech: Oh, and this is the MUSHclient, forgot to specify
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make the alias that you want calling the other alias into send to execute instead of send to world
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: is there any benefit from building openoffice from source?
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you get to say how it is built
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: oh, like with funroll loops, fastmath and all that?
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oooska Tech: Oh, Abe, thanks for the info. I got the alias working correctly. <3
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You cheer Oooska on and wish him good luck!
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Probably newbish, but short of manually position zmud buttons, is there a way to reorder them so autoplacement will still take affect?
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ah ,scratch that, you can drag them in the menu
T1/r7/2009-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Surprised quest time isn't listed in statmon
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: is there a way to output variable's values in zmud to a text file
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: like aside from printing to screen and then copy/paste?
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: that's an interesting question i think you can use echo if you can get the variable somehow into the prompt
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Isn't there a #WRITE command?
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i do'nt use zmud sorry
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: ah thats it balaam thx
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Use #FILE 1 whatever.txt;#WRITE 1 {whatever you want to write};#CLOSE 1
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: yeah, that's it!
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: great.. thx
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cholfo Tech: Hi, I'm trying to create a window in mushclient dedicated to chatting with a specific player and don't know where to start. A window dedicated to only tells would suffice, anyone willing to lend a hand or some advice?
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I need both of my hands.  But there's a thing on the FAQ page about tell capturing.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cholfo Tech: The client help and FAQ page?
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cholfo Tech: Or a different FAQ page?
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: i would suggest taking a look at the code for the chats plugin first of all.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=7794  #23 is the chat thing.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: that will give you a template for creating a window for just one channel by descriminating against the channel and/or name in the channel tag
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: (think i got that right)
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: descrimination is bad.  Learn to be more tolerant.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cholfo Tech: Alright, thanks Balaam and Drachon, I'll get to looking through the chats source and that page.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jyscal Tech: Hi there:-) is there anyone who could me with  using a trigger with Mxit?
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: MXit's capable of using triggers? Since when?
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jyscal Tech: im not sure if it is. This is my first time trying to use them.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I don't think it's capable. :P
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jyscal Tech: oh darn:-( could you please tell me if i can use flags with mxit?
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: To be honest, not too many people here are going to be able to help you with MXit, since 99% of us play from a PC. :P
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jyscal Tech: no problem:-) thanks for the help though! 
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: a literate and civilised mxit user?
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft points at everyone and screams, "LIES! LIIIIIIIIIIIIES!"
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jyscal Tech: lol:-) why you say that?
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: cuz most mxit usrz typ lik dis
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Though, a Blackberry mud client that supports triggers and what not would actually be kind of handy
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Does anyone know why when converting FLACs to MP3s, the output files will sometimes be slightly shorter?
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Like with most CDs I convert, they become 1-2 seconds shorter. This one CD became a total of 5 seconds shorter o_O. Of course, it had 59 tracks, so maybe it's track based, a few milliseconds off of each track?
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Kisd Jspr Tech: perhaps something to do with the pauses at the start and end of the song?
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I'm assuming that's the case. I just wanna know why it happens.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: maybe some control information ?
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: removal of subliminal messages.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Kisd Jspr Tech: haha
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I Kisd Jspr enthusiastically high-fives Blessed Balaam!
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Kisd Jspr Tech: best answer today i believe.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Kisd Jspr Tech: how freaky would it be but aye, if that truely was the case.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: MP3 (Mpeg 1 layer 3) is a lossy compression, meaning that not all the information of the original audio stream is retained in the format. In other words, the compression algorithms make use of the fact that certain sounds are not as audible or as audibly perceived by humans as other sounds, and, compress these sounds more than the types that are more easily heard or perceived. They may also not include information that may not be heard at all.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Charneus, that only explains why there's a loss of QUALITY. In this case, there's (very slight) loss of LENGTH.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i think records were the best sounding media
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Sometimes, no loss at all. Most times 1-2 seconds.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Yuna: No, it explains loss of length, too. If the MP3 doesn't heare it, then it's not part of the length.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I'm pretty sure it's still part of the song length even if it's just complete silence.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Losing audio data is going to shorten the files, Yuna.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I'll take your word for it.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: But really, it's never noticeable. :P
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: So you're saying that when compressing to MP3, LAME just automatically deletes a few milliseconds of complete silence from each track?
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: (as I am using LAME)
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Not to my knowledge. *shrug*
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Then why are the files shorter?
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: ...
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Something SOMEWHERE must be cutting the files off.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: When ripped from the CD they will probably add up to less total length, because there's often inter-track or pre- gaps in the CD.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: That is not the point. Because I'm not doing CD -> Mp3.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I'm doing FLAC -> MP3.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Transcoding from one audio codec to another shouldn't do anything to the length, barring user request or a unfriendly encoder.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: I'm pretty sure I've never seen lame do any such thing.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yes, which is why I'm perplexed as to how the albums almost always become 1-2 seconds shorter when going FLAC -> Mp3. This one album became FIVE seconds shorter in total.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: is it as likely as erikson leaving his clanhall and killing a mob? :P
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Not an Imm Erikson shrugs helplessly.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: if you did a whole album from flac, maybe the flac format can store some track melding info so you don't get the sound of the track switching
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: maybe...
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: It's just a few milliseconds off of each track, but it's still strange.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Break it down.  Examine the tracks.  Find a difference, then see where in the track it is.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: It's become pretty clear that LAME (or Winamp when encoding using LAME) is removing a few milliseconds per track. The less tracks an album has, the less will be removed (though 16 track albums have had 1-2 secs cut off while a 20-track album today had none). The album with 5 seconds cut off its runtime had 59 tracks, for instance.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Examining each track individually, there seems to be no difference between the FLAC and MP3. So it's just silence being stripped from the file. I just found it strange...
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Er, if there's no difference, there's nothing being stripped from the file   :p
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: The PLAYER may treat FLAC and mp3 differently.  Best to pull that out of the loop.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: It could be the player, that's an option I'm contemplating, but I highly doubt it.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: (Winamp in this case).
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Again, I imagine it's the conversion, since Mp3's filter out all of the sounds and frequencies that our human ears cannot hear making the file much smaller, yet it sounds practically identical to a FLAC. *shrug*
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: That would have no effect whatsoever on playback length.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Charneus, that only explains the exclusion of sounds!
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: These files are SHORTER than the FLACs.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: lame will happily encode a 10 minute long mp3 of silence.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus shrugs helplessly.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if the original CD was recorded as one continuous track, transfering to a multi-track is going to change the total CD play-length
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Whatever. Look it up yourself, then. :)
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Players do weird things.  The mp3lib in mplayer for instance DOES cut off a fraction of a second at the start of playing a mp3.  Don't ask me why.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I'll check them using another program later. Any suggestions?
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Transcode the file back to FLAC, check the length.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: mp3 sounds like 'noise' compared to vinyl sound 
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Not if you use a good soundcard, with tubes.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: The internet is a series of tubes
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: If you DO want to go the LAME route, it does have the gapless encode option. *shrug*
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i'd say it's probably metadeta of some sort http://flac.sourceforge.net/documentation_format_overview.html
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: data*
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: mp3 sounds like 'noise' because of missing data -- a decent soundcard with tubes is not able to replace the missing data
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: or maybe one of these frame headers in a audio block
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Xyliz: In that respect, you and MP3s have a lot in common. You both sound like noise because you're both missing data.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: mp3 may be able to trim off the extra time that a block doesn't use
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if you like mp3s, you are not very observant
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: mp3s are adequate for portable media files. That is all.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: portable noise is yet noise
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: As you wish. But most portable media players don't play flac, nor have the hardware to make it worthwhile.. most headphones that i'd want to use out and about are also not of a similar quality to make it worthwhile
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: yeah, i don't use .m4a or others since i'd have to convert for a few hours to get them to work on another thing
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: .mp3 works
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: listening to mp3 destroys the memory of the full original
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Ugh. Listenting to you destroys the memory of anyone.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: if you got enough songs you gotta listen pretty close to hear the missing stuff
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Not an Imm Erikson quickly records this conversation onto mp3 and listens to it.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods at Not an Imm Erikson.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: those that listened regularly to the full originals then listen to the mp3 versions usually notice the difference -- noise!
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i watched this show on tv, that claimed plastic molecules actually try to take the form of objects they're in contact with
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: oops
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: what's wrong with saving somebody?
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: damn mischannel
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: lo
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: in z/cmud with the mapper, what was the command to look up a rooms vnum with the rooms anme
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: does anyone know how to return a room vnum based off of the name in z/cmud
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humpton Tech: %roomnum
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: that doesnt seem to be working correctly on my test
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humpton Tech: sorry, just a guess...
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: it's %roomvnum
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: You want to find the room vnum based off room name?
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: roomvnum is only returning -1
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: combination of mapquery and roomvnum?
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: #SAY {%mapquery( [Name] Like '%replace( %param( ), "'", "''")%')} -- should do it.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: i had it working before but i stopped working on it shortly after i got i functioning and lost the thing
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: mapquery is shit, use direct ado sql
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Thata's for CMUD. Change %param to %-1
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: for zMUD, at least.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus snickers with Iron Duck Chuft about their shared secret.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: roomvnum is working if i dont try and find the room, its like cmud isnt searching the DB like it should be
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: You do have it open and active for the main window, right?
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: that'll teach you to encourage zugg to push his awful overpriced products :P
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: zmud was all there was a long time ago
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: lol i have the map open yes
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: No it wasn't.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: in terms of a client with many frills
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: zmud has always been a poor client..aside from the maps
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: what other telnet clients existed as of 10 years ago ?
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: poorly written and badly supported
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: gmud?
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: tinyfugue, tintin..many
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: well i don't disagree with that necessarily lol
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: tt++? Hell, PuTTy, ;)
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: uhh, i'm talking about more than a command window, cmon putty really?
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: You said what telnet clients. ;)
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: did these have all the features zmud had back in the day? i thought it was the way to go
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I've been using zmud for a long time..about 15 years now, mostly because of the mapper
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: zMUD is based off tintin. :P
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i've never, ever used a mapper i saw a friend try to do this and it failboated so bad
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: aside from the maps, they were significantly better in most ways :P
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i really really like mushclient
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grincho Tech: Excuxe me, is it possible to use plugins for Mushclient in Cmud?
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: zugg's bells and whistles never quite work to design, and he never does proper debugging
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Not without converting them over, Grincho.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: like someone else we know
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: agreed, back in the day tho i'd say it was a good choice
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Mushplugins != CMUD scripts.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: usually is convertible in some way but you'd have to rewrite
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: It's more than just a simple rewrite.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: oh its not necessarily simple
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: mush's only problem is the fact that you need degree in comp sciences to do a simple alias ..otherwise it's great
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grincho Tech: Charneus, how can I convert them? I thought Cmud is supporting Lua language...
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: well i am finishing a degree in that so lol
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Right, but MUSH relies on some internal scripting, too.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: you script lies char
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Nah. It's a buffer zone. I can disappear in a minute. ;)
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: foren: i find that comment hard to belive
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: believe*
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grincho Tech: Excuse me, guys. May be you know were can I find the similar plugins which are coming with Aardwolf Mushclient but for Cmud?
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: davos.aardcharn.com, Package library. Ask around.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: point charneus
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus goes 'pfft' at GentooX and covers her with globs of spittle!
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: grincho: sir charneus is here
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Actually, no, I'm not. About to head out. :P
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: tough luck for grincho
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus smirks.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grincho Tech: Haha)) Anyway thank you
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: oh there you are, you might have some time before he heads out
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: better yet finger charneus!
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: t travis Thanks for the payment. Didn't care to have 7 tps, so I'll send you 2 back as agreed upon for helping you with your scripts.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Mis.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: grincho: i think he is charging fees...
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: ya uhh i'll decline to comment what i think of that oO
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grincho Tech: Ok, it's his right))
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Help doesn't come cheap these days! *inno*
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GentooX . o O ( i might have scared grincho )
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i suppose but there's a psych term i'm looking for here...basically when there's payment ulterior to the normal bounds of something
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: the results could be fairly catastrophic
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Only thing I really ever charge for is writing scripts for people. :P
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: and the dark road that leads downward, i wouldn't charge ppl for scripts...now if they really asked you to go way way out of your way it can make sense which is why i declined to say something directly to that
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grincho Tech: Heh. Charneus, there is just one zMud script on your web-page. Any advice where can I find more? 
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Secondhand Madcatz Tech: I charge people for restrings.  Does that make me a bad person?
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Ode: Usually, when someone asks me to write a script, it's not for a 'I need a script to pick my nose and eat it when someone talks.'
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: ther's, hey i need a spellup script can you maybe help me out/show me how to do it  and then there's can you build me 10 world windows in mush with everything and a brand new clint
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: or that lol
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Grincho: I gave you davos.aardcharn.com - not www.aardcharn.com :P
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Last script I wrote, the person paid 20 tps for.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i understand, again i'm not commenting on that cause i dunno, but you don't seem like someone to not share like the "free" spellups you can get on numerous sites and instead charge tps then give them that script
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: But then again, it was also a very complex script. :P
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Ode: If it's a common script, I send it out (spellup scripts, statmon scripts, etc.) I don't charge for those. :P
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: scripts beyond a certain level give too much advantage to be shared..why should I share all my advanced scripts?
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: write your own
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: If I was charging for common scripts, I'd have told Grincho to pay me before I gave him the websites. ;)
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: there was one link given by abelinc, i forgot who, he has a great zmud client
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: all part of the game :P
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: but it isn't really iron
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Gentoox: www.not-porn.com/Aardwolf, probably.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: yeah
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: ther's a fine line of things, look at ugh world of warcraft
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Yeah, that's for zMUD, though. Would have to tweak some of them to work for CMUD.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: that is it, i want to learn zmud! but i have written a lot of scripts for my mushclient already
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: there are a number of add-ons that give players essentially an unfair advantage, you shouldn't need to be a programmer to play a game
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: until zugg writes something that reliably translates zmud settings to cmud, he can kiss my ass :P
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Li'l Bunny Zhalt Tech: TinyFuge, ftw!
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Heh. I only had to make minor changes to most of my scripts when I got CMUD.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: yes, minor changes to far too many scripts..I simply don't see cmud being worth the money he wants if I have to rewrite everything
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: and he's trying to charge like it's professional software, but still writing it like shareware
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: has zmud even like changed in 10+ years?
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: besides the version number o_O
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: It has, slightly, with bug fixes.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: biggest and most useful change being when maps became .mdb format
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i still have like v5.0 sitting somewhere i used to use that because i couldn't get speedwalks to reliably work
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods at Iron Duck Chuft.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: on any other client without pulling hair out
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Overlord Xantcha Tech: They're not even .mdb anymore
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: they're not? then cmud can really piss off :P
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Not for CMUD, Xantcha. It's dbm now. :P
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Overlord Xantcha Tech: They've been changed to .dbm (SqlLite) in the latest beta
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: 3.0 marked the change to dbm.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: oh ther's nothing more i want than a buggy sql
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: oh, well..so long as sql queries would still run I guess
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Overlord Xantcha Tech: Yeah, it runs SQL faster than the Access did, so far that I've seen
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: since the sql query structure has nothing to do with zmud, I fail to see how a buggy sql is zugg's fault :P
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: It does.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grincho Tech: Charneus: Great!!! Thak you. On the www.not-porn.com/Aardwolf actually are all the scripts which I need for now.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus snickers with Iron Duck Chuft about their shared secret.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Overlord Xantcha Tech: I downloaded a SqlLite client to play around with the dbm file... same basic structure it had in Access
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Grincho: Again, if you're using CMUD, you may need to make changes.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Either way, you're quite welcome.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: he'll just have to do more work on debugging before he comes even close to convincing me to migrate to his new business model
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: 7.21 is pretty good really, aside from the irritating stuff he never fixes like the memory leaks
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: oh how nice it has a memory leak?
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: only really something noticeable if you run it for months at a time like I do
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grincho Tech: Charneus: Yes, I aware about it. Hope that Zugg's help files will help.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: haha, zugg and documentation
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: that's a good laugh that is
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: he gets his own command syntax wrong and does about a line
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: the portalcheck documenation in 7.21 is a fine example
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: he used the wrong name for the command in the help :P
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: sorry, portalenable
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: mushclient is a far better client for the new player who's not doing some very silly map related scripting
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: since it comes precustomised for aard and so forth
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: and the author just isn't a wanker like zugg :P
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Overlord Xantcha Tech: One of the few things I really like about z/cmud that I haven't replicated so far in another client is the split-pane scroll... most others scroll the entire window
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: if there were a mush plugin to handle zmud map formats, zugg's market would vanish :P
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: heh, but then how can one read notes while xping? :P
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I think zuggs market vanished when he pulled zmud for cmud, not that I don't understand the why
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Overlord Xantcha Tech: As if someone actually needs to pay attention to level... :P
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: you do in a pk clan, sometimes ;)
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: xantcha, they don't. we bot =p
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oooska Tech: You know, I still have a legit license for zmud from like, 10 years ago. . .
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: then it's still valid
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod, zmud just not getting any more updates
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Overlord Xantcha Tech: I have a legit zmud and cmud license
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: my zmud licence is 15 years old and cost me a princely $15, still works
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: hehe i got my zmud license about 6 years ago and go a legacy cmud license
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oooska Tech: I have no idea where I would have put my key. Pretty sure the e-mail address is no longer valid. 
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: whoops about 8 years
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oooska Tech: I'm rather impressed with MUSHclient so far though
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I just emailed him about the fact that my email it was registed to was no longer valid, and he fixed it
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: but I don't think he does that any more
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: i dislike mush because there is no way to snap all the windows together like in z/cmud to make it nice looking
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Overlord Xantcha Tech: Yeah, the one time I had to talk to them about a licensing issue I talked to his wife... no form letter or anything, she was very nice :)
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: nogs, I think it was his wife who answered my email, too
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: with windows 7 xp vm support, I suspect I'll never use cmud :P
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Overlord Xantcha Tech: If he manages to make the mapper work properly, AND give us true SQL access in the embedded DB package, then I think it might've been workwhile... I dislike z/cmud's interface with external COM and such
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: ado sql works fine, if slowl
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: get that mobdice script I sent domain, it's a good example of what I mean
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: my zmud scripts use a lot of sql due to zmud's extrmeley poor variable options
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Overlord Xantcha Tech: Although he has improved the scripting somewhat in CMud, too... I like being able to use function parameters in aliases
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Overlord Xantcha Tech: #RETURN is useful
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: he could hardly have made it worse :P
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Overlord Xantcha Tech: True
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: but really it's just like programming in old basics :P
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: the zmud ide development interface chronically pisses you off if you try anything complex in zscript
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: it randomly flids out about whitespace 
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Overlord Xantcha nods.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: that bad?
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: another reason I use so many external applications linked by sql or com object
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Overlord Xantcha Tech: Unfortunately I never figured out how to properly interface the "alternative languages" feature... so I could use something other than zscript
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Meh. If I knew more about com object, then I'd probably use that a lot more. :\
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: just like me, especially monitoring windows. woot
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Xantcha: Like lua?
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: never really used lua outside of aard building, but it's not exactly a hard language to script in :P
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: monkeys can do it..hell, xantcha can do it ;)
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: My time difference script is in lua, and it's even more accurate than you can do with zscript.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Overlord Xantcha Tech: I haven't attempted since CMud, Charn... was referring more to the #mscript implementatino or whatever it was in zmud... I know CMud offers language selection, just not sure how the interface works, haven't researched it yet (just no interest to date since switching to cmud)
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: That's one thing that always pissed me off about zMUD/CMUD - the lack of a true time difference function.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: you can hack one easily enough
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Ah. the #mss, I think? I forget now.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I have lots of timer scripts, quest/cp/level/pup..heh
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I never messed with that, either. Then again, didn't do scripts like I do now.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Yeah, but really, a %timediff() would be a hell of a lot easier than making one yourself. But the lua one I have for CMUD is spot on, and really couldn't be better.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I just stole the one from dolt's quest tracking script, which works perfectly
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: my own attempts did, too, but dolt split the seconds into more useful units
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Heh.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: get all in 'spells spellup' except the shared ones
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: sorry mis
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: oh... if you do cplevelling/qsitting combat empathy wont help,  but combat empathy is great for speed levelling
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: yet again i miss
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Oh scary scary... Google Releasing Google Chrome Operating System This Year [Google]
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: In a sudden, if not unexpected, announcement this morning, Google said it would release an open-source operating system based on its Chrome browser. The OS will be free, geared (at first) toward netbooks, and focused on "speed, simplicity, and security."
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i have mixed emotions on that
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i don't trust google
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: should be call YAOS
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: More specifically, Chrome OS is planned to run on x86 and ARM-based processors, and its architecture is described as "Google Chrome running within a new windowing system on top of a Linux kernel." 
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Easy to see that Google is wanting to monopolize the market and take it away from Microsoft. :P
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: google is going to have marketing profiles for every individual on the planet
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: if they dn't already, google chrome is just part of their evil scheme
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus snickers with Ode about their shared secret.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ode D
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: that was suppose to be a smilie
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i like how the address bar is auto searching google...which means every letter more than 1 typed is being sent to google
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: there's a level of brilliance in their plans but its shocking if you really look at what they've done, 2gb, 4gb whatever it is now mailbox
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Marketing profiles are such a bad idea, - imagine if one of you looked up some frilly knickers online to buy your girlfriend/wife a sexy present - somewhere in the depths of the Internet, you're now marked down as a tv
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Ode: Over 7GB.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: so you leave all the mail in there, their privacy policy states after 90 days
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: no warrant required, if a government entity cares its theirs
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: they also bought keyhole.com, former CIA directors now work for google...google maps/google world 
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: earth*, its interesting stuff...isn't it nuts that the only search engine that matters is google?
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: there are better search engines...but google has become a verb, You cant fight that
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Ode: Where in their privacy policy does it state that (sorry, was trying to look it up to see if you're as full of crap as I can imagine. ;))
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i also still don't understand how they set it up so they store cookies on their machines and yours when you search...searching doesn't require cookies
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: oh i'm not, i actually contacted them regarding it
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: its in the gmail policies
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: none of this is a lie lol
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: i missed thae start of this, you talking about how they can scan/search the emails in gmail?
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I've read through the Gmail policies. Nothing about 'after 90 days, we can give your information to the government with no warrant.'
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i was noting that after 90 days without a warrant a gov't entity can ask google for the stuff on your e-mail
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: without your permission or a proper warrant and its theirs
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: thats creepy if true
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: iirc its not even buried that much but nobody reads privacy policies rite?
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Show me documention where it states that, Ode.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: oh they buried it now
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: they didn't have like the 10 simple things, i'm reading it now will note when i find it
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: gmail mines your emails for sales purposes anyway
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: didn't you know?
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: oh they do
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so it's little different them handing info to the government then
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: but you should be aware that whoever you deal with has access to whatever is in the box
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: its a lot different if other ppl can get in there fo free
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: government has rights to snoop all internet traffic anywayt
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods at Tigernuts.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so all your concerns are pretty much irrelevant
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: quit running a paedo ring and you'll have nothing to fear
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: no they don't actually
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: still looking
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Really, Ode? Because in Florida, the government is browsing people's computers for any instances of child pornography, and arresting those who have child pornography. ;)
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: browsing someone's computer?
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Yep.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: how exaclty does that work?
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: thats not exactly how the internets work
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i'm way too tired to read legal mumbo jumbo but at http://www.google.com/privacypolicy.html  it does say they require a warrant
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: does NOT say lol
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: reasonably necessary to (a) satisfy any applicable law, regulation, legal process or enforceable governmental request    there was a notice  it may have been changed or i just can't find it...there are pages of this stuff of course
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: the first part of it is the type of things that sounds, if we find reason to cooperate  ok, they certainly aren't going to bat for u
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: but i'd like to hear more of this outta florida
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: http://www.amw.com/features/feature_story_detail.cfm?id=3473
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Heard about it on America's Most Wanted.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: its different if you're hosting a website or something 
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Ode: If the law has probable cause, then there's no need for a warrant, anyway.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: that is definitely definitely.....right but if i find the loophole i'll tell ya  it is a bit fishy the way that's written
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: anywho, i forget what its called exactly...something like "distributing child bleh material thru the use of a computer"
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Federal, state and local cops in Florida were not searching for drugs, guns or cash. Instead, they were looking for computers: hard drives loaded with child pornography. During the first state-wide sweep dubbed "Operation Orange Tree," cops seized dozens of computers, and busted 77 men accused of downloading pornography featuring children. The secret weapon to finding these guys was a new, high-tech software program recently made available to law enforcement.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: the article at least sounds like there was a distribution of it, you can't just spy on someone's harddrive afaia thats simply not how things work unless you're backdoored
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: they didn't scan the harddrive, they have the IP that downloaded it and either the ISP cooperated
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: in fact they don't even need the isp i don't think
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: its not you take a picture of some fruit in a bowl and put it on your comp and everyone in the world can see it, but if you acquire a photo via the net...the person that hosts it (the sting operation) certainly knows you downloaded it if they use certain types of logging
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: they apparently also recovered 5 children in this process too
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: it really seems like they were targetted a certain ring/group or area
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Heh. The story on the website doesn't give it full justice. :P
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i'm on another site
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: http://www.flgov.com/release/10817
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: it notes "online" near the end
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Although law enforcement couldn't give us details about how they tracked these predators, they said they used new software technology, donated by the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. ;)
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: unless your computer is sending information about, you know computers...unless something is seriously wrong with your computer, you aren't broadcasting everything on it to the world
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: otherwise we'd call PCs, servers o_O
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus shrugs helplessly.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Big Brother is watching you!
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: yep i can go to google and see me standing outside my house
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: that i have a problem with lol, i should ask google to remove the satelite imaging over my house and see what they say
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: btw you can see area 51 on google maps
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I was supposed to be gone over an hour ago. :P
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: and no i'm not kidding, lol sorry i need to rest too
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: but that was a fun convo later
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Sure. *shrug*
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: is there a way to search for variables of a certain name in zmud? like i want to display a list of all variables starting with "item_"
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arista Tech: Anyone around who uses the Mushclient spellup plugin that could give me some advice? Its not registering what spells I have on me:/
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tranquillity Tech: where is the best place to go to for info on how to set up aardwolf on cmud
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: finger charneus
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: I have a script that will cast resonate,solidify, and illuminate on an item, when I get the message "You lost your concentration while trying to cast (res,sol,ill)" how can I make Mushclient recast it?
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: cool
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Autumn Naomii Tech: in linux (debian) what is it that controls what your F1-F12 keys sends ? my F1-F5 are sending a-e (capitalized) and are not being good macros =P
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: is this on a laptop?
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Autumn Naomii Tech: the kemap ? and yes
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: do you have numlock on?  mine does that if numlock is on
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tranquillity Tech: I have put c a* is cast condemn a* on my alias.  What do I need to set my var to please?
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Autumn Naomii Tech: can MUSHclient see the gray color code ? and zmud while i am at it ?
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Yes, grey is what MUSH calls "bright black"
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Autumn Naomii thanks Leinei heartily.
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maaloc Tech: does anyone have the link to a good level tracker for MUSH? the one i plugged in has an error w/ initalizing
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Galirawin Tech: what is a level tracker?
T1/r7/2009-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: a tracker that's evenly balanced
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Any opinions on why Internet Explorer page loading times might be significantly slower on a Vista box than an XP box? Same network connections, same internet speed test results from Santa Cruz NDT site, muich faster processor and more memory on Vista box. Pages just load significantly slower. Any good benchmark sites for loading content? I am thinking possibly odd interaction between McAfee firewall and Vista firewall, but I am basically clueless here.
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: different activex components installed?
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: And what IE versions?
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Very likely different Active X
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: both running IE 8, Vista very slightly behind
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: 8.0.7100 on XP (OK it is a Windows 7 running in a VM on the XP). 8.0.6001 on the Vista box.
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Never tried IE 8, so I can't tell you much aside from it probably being ActiveX issues.
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Oh, wait...  it's Windows 7 in there?  That would probably be it.  7 is a much lighter system so far.
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Maybe not, it seems faster in the basic XP host as well. So both the XP host and the Windows 7 VM guest seem to load at about the same rate, but the separate Vista box loads slower. Still would like to find a good page set up specifically to test page load speeds vs. TCP/IP traffic speed.
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Gah. Only real thing that bothers me about Windows 7 is the fact that you can't just show icons without notifications. It's either no notifications, no icons and no notifications, or show both. *sigh* Makes it very annoying to see my Weatherbug tray icon pop up with a notification every half hour.
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: you use weather bug?
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I do. :P
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: there's your problem
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Heh. Got a better altnerative, then?
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: yeah its called use the firefox foxweather plugin or just check weatherunderground when you want the weather you need live second by second weather?
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: or just, you know.  look out the window.
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Ageha: I use it because it alerts me when there are warnings in my area.
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: This year, we've had a LOT of storms come through.
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: And since I don't have a weather radio, I use this. :)
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: weather bug is liek adware spyware central
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods.
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: weather bug has its own page on how to remove it and the adware it has
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I know. Which really sucks, but it works. *sigh*
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Oo... found WeatherWatcher... I /may/ use that instead.
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: yeah i jsut saw that it says adware free
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: i checked acoupel sites so far seems to be really free of stuff
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Good riddance to WeatherBug!
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: grats 
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ageha claps at Charitable Charneus's performance.
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: But still doesn't solve my original problem of only showing icons and not notifications. :(
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: well i would give you my solution but no one likes my solution
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Heh. I have portable Ubuntu. :P
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ageha P
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: i got my sister to use ubuntu this weekend she was having problems with viruses since she loves dlign attachments
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: so far she likes it
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: she enjoys the app install application
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Heh. My wife wants simplicity. I wanted to install Linux a while back, she told me no. :P
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: linux is simple
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I /really/ should just dual partition this and install Linux on the second partition, anyway.
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: show her the ubuntu app install
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: it makes getting free software simple
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Oh! Google Chrome OS is supposedly going to be based off a linux kernel.
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: yeah 
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Doesn't mean I want to use it, though. Heh.
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: i remember back in teh day liek 2 years ago seeing gOS its basically a linux based os with tons of google apps
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: the g stands for good
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods.
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: i cant wait for the day i get to tell people haha told you linux was gonna be the #1 os of choice
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: In the options for WeatherWatcher, -- Left Double-Click Action: several actions, Visit WeatherBug.com
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus smirks at Ageha's saying.
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: The OS/2 people have been saying that for _years_   :p
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Li'l Bunny Zhalt rolls on the floor laughing at Not an Imm Erikson's antics!
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: yeah but no one believes it since every business has windows hell any cash register normally has an embedded windows app peopel keep saying companies wont change
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: i say they will since ms keep raising prices
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Not an Imm Erikson thinks you don't realize just how widespead OS/2 in fact was...
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: It WAS widely used in cash registers.  And at one time, you could bet that 3 out of 4 ATM's you walked past ran OS/2.
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: yeah but that was awhiel ago
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Big Financial Institutions love Big Blue   :p
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: i just checked this random one store shop and they have old old registers that run 3.1 embedded
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: it was hilarious the reg crashed and they rebooted and i was like omg 3.1 i love 3.1
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Li'l Bunny Zhalt Tech: I love it when Windows based ATMs pop up the "Out of memory error"-error message. Feels ... secure! :P
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Not that long.  Only in the last maybe 5 years have ATM's really moved away from it en masse, when IBM finally let it die.
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: i love when atms have volume problems
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: tehre are some chase atms by my house the volume for button pushes is terrible you can hear it for a mile radius
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: i swear people go deaf
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: so anyone want windows me i have the full install disk
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: i got it at a garage sale
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: blue screens included for 10 cents 
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: so has anyone played with kde 4.3 i havent installed it yet
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: they need a tv chat channel so we can discuss the latest on reality tv shows
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ageha P
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Kisd Jspr Tech: Do Moonstones from ultima keep
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Life is Meaningless Tech: hmm mushclient has a weird carriage return after everything
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Kisd Jspr Tech: like
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Ateam nods.
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Kisd Jspr Tech: ?
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Life is Meaningless Tech: it has a line break after prompt (or the empty line if prompt is off), it has a line break after every line of chat, it has a line break after every step in a runto
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: when i untrigger something in zmud, is there a way to stop just tt output from echoing?
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: take the checkmark off echo scripts under script parser/general parsing
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: However, there isn't a way in zMUD to do it on a case-by-case basis.
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: You can in CMUD, though.
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: i'm just gagging the line after i untrigger sth.. works most of the time
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: well it's easy enough to use the #echo command in zmud
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drael Tech: could someone suggest a small, simple client that supports triggers. I dont want to use the aardwolf client (mush?) and use zmud at home, but cant use it here at work.
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: mush works
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Why don't you want the Aardwolf client?
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: why can't you use it at work?
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drael Tech: When I used the aard one before and then went back to zmud from it, I had weird junk in my prompt and couldnt fix it.
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Actually, that was statmon.
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Very easy to fix.
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: nothing to do with the client.
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drael Tech: tell me about it please?
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: help statmon
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drael Tech: alright, thanks
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: if you just want to get rid of the numbers for now - type statmon
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drael Tech: yeah thats what was comming up, thanks guys. I'll try mush then.
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: MUSH turns them on by default when you first use it. I'm not sure if it does every time you connect, but it's a real simple fix. Read up on 'help tags' too.
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: But the reason why is because MUSH uses them for the plugins.
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: but once you're familiar with a client, the info it gives is very useful
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: if the statmon is no good to you, disable the plugin
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: I think MUSH gags all the crap it used for plugins..
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Even so, you can just download MUSH itself (doesn't have to be the Aardwolf client.)
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Mush even has a noregistry flag where you won
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: all the aardwolf client"" has is bunch of useful plugins you can disable all of em if you wanted
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Mush even has a noregistry flag where you won't leave a trace on the work computer.
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: that is the wierdest thing i've ever seen windows do
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: wut
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thurgood Tech: It's working?
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Hah... I knew that was coming.
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: did it create the opposite of matter?
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i woke up yesterday to no start menu, no ctrl+alt+del task manager, no way to shut down, no way to log off...
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: so explorer crashed and it froze too?
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: no, i hard restarted it, and it still didn't work
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: everything else worked
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: but no start menu?
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: yeah, no start menu, task manager, log off or shut down button
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Stapleface - did it open up a folder upon starting up?
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: nope
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: Are you sure you didn't accidentally boot into Windows 3.1?
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus snickers with If you see Dashiell about their shared secret.
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: you sure your keyboard works?
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: ha
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: no, i'm not. can you rad this?
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: you sure you aren't in an alternate diminsion?
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: just to make sure
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Is it possible that your speakers were not turned up high enough?
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I can't rad it.
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i mean sometimes your keys get stuck
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: everything else worked fine, just those things went wonky
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: if your ctrl or alt or delete don't work/stuck you won't get the task manager
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Rathik: I don't think it's the speakers. I think it's because his chair is too close to the monitor.
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: the menu came up, all i could do is cancel
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: what menu?
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Ode: The menu that says 'Lock computer, shut down, task manager, etc.'
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: when you ctrl alt del and it asks you if you want to shutdown, logoff, task manager
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: all mine said was cancel
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: it was wierd. i reformatted cause i was overdue, but has anyone else seen that happen?
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: this is xp?
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Stapleface: Can you do Win+R?
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: whats win+r do?
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: (Sounds like explorer problems)
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: run
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Opens up the run dialog.
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: run was there
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: ^ does that work?
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Ok. Type 'explorer.exe' in the run dialog.
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: when i tried to load the task manager that way nothing happened. tried loading it through the windows directory and it wouldn't load
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: no need for the extension
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: explorer was running fine
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: and now it won't matter cause i reformatted. it was overdue. 
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus smirks.
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i haven't reformatted, ever
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: my mother-in-law had borrowed this comp before she fried the ram, power supply, video card, and cd rom. so the hd still had shit of hers on it. i needed to
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: pretty much mb, chip, and hd worked when i got it
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: oh, so tell me again what doesn't work now?
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Nothing like looking at mom porn.
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: How did she fry those?
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: so you have a start menu?
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i could click the start button, and there was no all programs, no logoff, no shut down
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: oh
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: perhaps those were hidden somehow
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i tried explorer, it worked, tried to command load task manager, nothing worked, clicked it in windows directory, wouldn't load
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: sounds like PSU failed and took everything else out in a cascade... HD *may* work, likely its been damaged too.
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: its possible the hd went poofy but i'm surprised it started windows without at least one fail
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: hd is fine. i ran diagnostics on it and it's fine. i think my wife may have installed something on here and jacked it up
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: but virus scanner came back clean, so i know it wasn't that
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Ah, I guess that would make some sense then. It did seem like a lot of components to all fail near the same time coincidentally.
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: put it in another comp and take it off by itself, could be it has become extremely temp sensitive, failing electronics can do that.
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: well we aren't back in the day where a power failure meant you wouldn't make it thru POST
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: that came from a combination of her cat and faulty wiring in her house
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: put it in the fridge for a couple of hours and see if you can get the info off at that point.
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i replaced all the blow stuff.
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: eh never had luck with the freezer trick, taht's a last ditch effort
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i guess my question is to hard drive failure
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: are you missing files? are files not opening/missing data/acting strange?
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: does all programs still exist if you go through your documents to find it
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i didn't try going through documents. and task manager.exe was there, but wouldn't load. 
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I think his computer is working fine now-- he was just explaining the problem before he reformatted
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: so what error did you get trying to load task manager?
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: and the fry was done last year, it's been running fine since then. this is the first time i've had it happen. like i said, i think my wife installed something that corrupted the files or something
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: nothing happened. period
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oooska Tech: Sounds like it's malware to me as well. 
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: malware is a good check
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: but nothing came up on scans. that's what i don't get.
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i could easily write something to screw up task manager
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oooska Tech: hWhat did you run for scans?
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: do this, go into c:\windows
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: oh well, it's fixed now. was just curious if anyone had this happen or heard of it before
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: malware can be a major pain to remove and these days it mutates faster than virus did at their worst.
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: if someone wrote a taskman.bat  it will load before the exe
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: avg
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: looked for that
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: meh i've had more issues with avg than tis solved, i just go in and kill the stuff myself at least the ones that are horribly damaging
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i don't randomly download stuff tho, i pretty much just play games on here. 
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: avg is *okay* but they're generaly a couple days behind the big boys for this sort of stuff and to be honest I can't recall them ever really getting a good rating for finding stuff in any PC mag I read.
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: what do you guys use instead?
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: and unless they've changed in last 3 years I doubt they do anything for malware.
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: they scan for malware
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i have mcafee w/ softwall but tbh i dont think i need it, i've gone with AV before but its nice to be able to scan  i've had about 50-60 false positives tho
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: AVG is not good at all any more
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: your best bet for malware, adn they are pretty good at finding it...ad-aware kinda fading i think...spybot is truly awesome
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: if there's one thing you prolly should must have its spybot
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: try spware blaster in conjunction with spybot
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i've had a lot of problems with spybot in the past
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: but don't install the teatimer, annoying thing turns xp into vista
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: try going to less porn sites
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: if you use IE i'd use firefox instead too
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: the order of execution is exe, com, bat
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: yeah i goofed, i had a virus on someone's comp once that put .exes in place of other commonly used things like msconfig and regedit
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: if they are all in the same directory
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i got firefox
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: right now I do linux... when I was running winXP I had kapernsky but they caused a LOT of problems too. likewise with mcafee. It may sound strange but run a real defragger, not the peice of junk that comes with windows and see if problems go away, you would be amazed at how many problems turn out to be a severely thrashed disk.
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: or Chrome!
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i forget but it superceded what you'd normally run
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: you are crazy, teatimer is fantastic if you have even a minimil knowledge of PC's. Its rough at start until you set it up and give it info on existing apps but it works really really well
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: fed, i haven't had a piece of malware in 3+ years and i haven't had any viruses for 6
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: if it works for you great
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i like my computer as bare bones as possible that's just me..teatimer does work tho just hella hella annoying to me
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oooska Tech: I murder anyone who has teatimer installed. 
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: nods, i couldn't stand all thepopups of teatimer
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i want to learn linux so can convert my other comp over. i use it for a web server
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: I got annoyed at teatimer NOT writing stuff I told it to let be written, teatimer has issues, it makes mcafee's nag stuff seem almost reasonable... but its better than kapernsky's :P that junk had to be shut down or it would screw up WoW's downloader, and the scanner would *always* crash my laptop.
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: hijackthis is my favorite prog btw
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: hijackthis is a great tool
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: def more powerful than an AV, its also useful if you kinda lockdown your browser a bit a lot of malware piles up in IE
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: guys, you dont have to worry about those progs if you use nixes
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: there's also an interesting thing called sandboxing now, i believe its called sandboxie  alsoa  cool program
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: it uses a small section of space and prevents access to anything you don't approve for programs that run in it, great to run a browser in that i imagine because once you close it...everything is gone
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: the space used is wiped so anything it tries to put can't go anywhere without your explicit permission
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: its not that cool, viruses that run on sandboxie protected space COULD infect processes
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: reduces the likelihood tho
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: not at all. it just introduces complexity to the common users
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: ? uhh
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: its pretty simple you click the shortcut for this instead of the shortcut for your browser
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: sandboxie only protects your file space but not your processes
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maaloc Tech: MUSHclient question: if i don't have a keypad, what should i be looking for to change a key's output? (i want to make ctl+u my "quaff heal" key)
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: cntl = shift = 2 will take you to your macros list ;)
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: cntrl+shift+2 rather ;)
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maaloc Tech: but can i make more?
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: not in mush, iirc
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: maaloc, to make ctrl-u your quaff heal key, use the accelerator function in MUSH
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maaloc Tech: accelerator function?
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, check out the built-in helps for accelerator
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: </macro>
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oops
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Accelerator ("Ctrl+E", "eat meat")
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is what it shows in the lua examples section
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maaloc Tech: ahh... very nice, abelinc. you have set me in awe yet again...
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Honestly, Abelinc never ceases to amaze himself
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drael Tech: can i remove plugins from mush if i dont want/need some of them?
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oooska Tech: Yes
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: file -> plugins
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make sure that a plugin you do want doesn't depend on the one you think you don't need though
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drael Tech: nod, thanks
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mjorinon Morinon Tech: Okay, anyone here familiar with mushclient?
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Can of Pringle Tech: no what is that
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: think i might give up on MS Expresions, give up on using div tags and go back to tables, at least they display properly
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: when i watched the tutorials, they said "makes you write standards-compliant webpages that will display consistently across different platforms"
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: whereas what they meant to say "helps you write standards-compliant webpages that have behaviour so unpredictable that it'll look different between the Expressions design view and your default browser"
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: padding is an internal margin, right?
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: turn off the padding, problem goes away, makes no sense whatsoever
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: adding padding inside a div when you've explicitly set it's dimensions shouldn't suddenly make it bigger
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so now i guess because of 'standards compliancy' i need to make another div inside this div just to recreate the effect of internal spacing
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: doesn't sound like much of a step forward to me
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: If you see Dashiell raises an eyebrow.
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no need for those, dash, just ie8 being appallingly awful
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: it's microsoft, when they say "step forward" they mean "more bloatware added"
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if only it were just bloatware and not completely changing the way that html behaves
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: it's so you have to upgrade to vista
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: got nothing to do with vista
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i guess i could use a table to emulate internal padding, but it kinda defeats the object
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: world of computing does deserve to burn in hell, it seems
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: unless someone can think of a different way of changing internal margins within a div tag
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chamomile Tech: I need some assistance
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chamomile Tech: maybe not
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sip some earl grey, that'll help :-)
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drael Tech: what was the commadn the remove the numbers from my prompt after using musH?
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tags off will remove both those numbers and the {chan ch=tech} stuff
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to only remove the prompt-like numbers, statmon
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drael Tech: statmon
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drael Tech: er, thanks
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: So...anyone happen to know how I managed to get MUSHclient into right-justify mode like Arabic or something? I'm on WIndows XP if that helps.
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you try exiting and restarting?
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: Actually it went back to normal right after I finished typing that. I don't know what I hit.
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: But it was going right-to-left with the question marks and everything jsut like Arabic or Hebrew, except in English.
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: I'll just chaclk it up to Windows being awful.
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: yes blame windows, seems to be the popular thing to do :P
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: If it walks like a duck, sounds like a duck...and I don't have these problems on Debian. :P
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: i don't have those problems with xp
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: Well you must be living right, then. I have to beat it into shape on a regular basis.
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nate Tech: Currently running XP Pro, after installing Ubuntu can I virtualize the current Windows install or will I have to install it again under virtualization?
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: you should be able to virtualize it as is.  My work computer has both installed, and I can run either through VMware.
T1/r7/2009-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nate Tech: Many thanks, time to do some playing.
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Anyone have anything I should know before I try to use perl on a Japanese-encoded file?
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Gonna take that as a 'no' :)
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: is realtime a 24h clock or 12h clock
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: 24
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: oh ok thx
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: anyone having problems with davos's potmanager script for cmud?
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: or anyone can reccomend a good pot manager for cmud?
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: davos.aardcharn.com has one.
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: i can't get that to work
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: mana pots don't load and bpot doesn't work
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I have it working with no problems. *ponder*
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: which version of cmud?
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: what is the telopt tag for
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Been using it since 2.xx. Currently using 3.08.
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: i'm on 2.37 
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: hmm ok, i'll try later after cleaning out atrei's version, maybe theres some conflict
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Einstein: It's telnet negotiations.
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Karlos: That /is/ Atreidess' version.
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: hmm i have telopt tag on but i never see the telopt tag
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Davos converted a number of his scripts for CMUD, at his request.
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: You won't see it, Einstein.
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: i do realise, but i have a legacy one which i imported from zmud
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: At least, not visually. Your client does, though.
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: which could be causing the error
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods at Tevez Karlos.
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Check for double aliases/variables, too.
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: how often do you guys mistakenly the 'ls' command here
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: use*
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: More often than I would like to admit.
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: And about the same amount that I use "inv" in shell.
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GentooX chuckles politely.
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: which is really embarassing while WebEx'd in with a customer.
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: and about the same amount i use reply in messengers
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: omg!
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: oh, I also get 'score' and 'top' mixed up occasionally.
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: im laughing so hard here.
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: now i know what im doing is natural
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: err at least im not the only 1
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Blessed Balaam nods at GentooX.
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Need to make an AardOS to keep life simple.
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: grin*
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Kisd Jspr Tech: is Matriarch spelt like that?
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rogarn Tech: Yes.
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Kisd Jspr Tech: ta.
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: my best was static oppo back in the 7th ed days
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nitrana Tech: Does anyone know of a reliable non download virus scanner?
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: Microtrend has one
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: It can be slow as hell, but it'll scan through a webpage without having to download anything.
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: TrendMicro, sorry... 
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nitrana Tech: Does anyone know of powerup / quest / level up scripts for zmud 7.21?
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I know _of_ them, so technically, yes.
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thurgood Tech: You mean, like, botting scripts?
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I'm assuming timing/info gathering.
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yathtallar Tamariel Tech: if u arent a bot, ur wrong
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thurgood Tech: Resistance is futile.
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Resistance is futile.  Your ass will be simulated.  Look, a holographic donkey!
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Thurgood gasps as he realizes what Blessed Balaam did.
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nitrana Tech: no, I mean scripts that report the amount of exp per min, trains / practices / stats gained per level
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: to seriously answer the question...  I think I remember Danj converting a few scripts here and there for 7.21, but I could be mistaken.
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: clani rimso, ninja has all those tracking scripts
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: for zmud
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: nfc about non-zmud scripts, as they are not personally relevant
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: nfc about Chuft, as he is not relevant globally.
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Blessed Balaam ducks, anticipating Iron Duck Chuft's reaction.
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You stare at Iron Duck Chuft as he screams something about a MOOSE to Blessed Balaam.
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nitrana Tech: Does anyone know why my ZMUD turns all the ansi coloring from scripts into numbers and semicolons?
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nitrana Tech: or how to turn that off rather.
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: perhaps click off Preferences->Logging->Log Ansi color
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Ansi coloring is numbers and escape characters etc
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dorwardv Tech: hello
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dorwardv Tech: where can i find good mushclient plugins
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nitrana Tech: Does anyone know why my Zmud converts "Time to ask Quester for a quest." into '[0
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nitrana Tech: '[0;36;40mTime to ask [0;52;40mQ[0muestor[0;36;40m for a quest.'
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Priestess Maluea Tech: because zmudd i junk
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Priestess Maluea Tech: is even
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Priestess Maluea Tech: I just started using it, looks shiney and spiffy, but sux
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Overlord Xantcha Tech: You have ANSI control codes showing
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Rather, you're using ansi codes on a channel instead of aardwolf's color codes.
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nitrana Tech: Xantcha: Do you have any idea how to turn that off? or to fix my problem?
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: If your trigger does gt %ansi(red)Time to ask blah blah blah, then it's going to show up like that.
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nitrana Tech: Im using the Crimson Horde gain reporter script
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Overlord Xantcha Tech: I believe it's in preferences somewhere
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: You'd need to change the [0;31;40m to @R
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: You'd need to change the %ansi(red) to @R
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Priestess Maluea Tech: how can I get zmud to use my alias'? it's just sending the commands to the mud
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: click the computer icon in the bottom of your window
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Priestess Maluea Tech: it's not crossed out
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that turns parsing on/off
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Priestess Maluea Tech: but ill try
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is the class that they're in enabled?
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Priestess Maluea Tech: still not working
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Priestess Maluea Tech: how do I check?
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: don't you need an in front of your alias name so it'll evaluate it?
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Priestess Maluea Tech: a what gonf?
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Priestess Maluea Tech: semi colon?
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: haha sorry, trying to find the escape key in mush
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: at symbol :p
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Priestess Maluea Tech: aaah
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Priestess Maluea Tech: ill try that
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Priestess Maluea Tech: ty
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Searon Tech: @@ for @
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: thanks searon :)
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dorwardv Tech: where can i find good mushclient plugins
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Priestess Maluea Tech: still not working
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: www.mushclient.com
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Priestess Maluea Tech: how do I check if the class is enabled?
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Open up Settings, navigate to the folder where the particular settings are, and if it's greyed out, then it's disabled.
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Priestess Maluea Tech: ty charneus
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Priestess Maluea Tech: Well im stumped
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Priestess Maluea Tech: Alias' just wont work
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did they used to work?
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how did you make the alias?
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Priestess Maluea Tech: nope, just started using zmud
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: make sure command parsing is enabled in your client
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: where did the aliases come from?
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Priestess Maluea Tech: im just tryin to make speedwalk alias
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Priestess Maluea Tech: like "run clan" but it just sends the command to the mud
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Priestess Maluea Tech: parsing is on, command is enabled, I tryed an at sign and a number sign before the name, nothin
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: zmud aliases have to be one word, unless subsequent words are argum ents
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aliases are a single word
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Maluea: Go to Preferences->Special Characters, and make sure that # is still checked as command.
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Priestess Maluea Tech: thanx for all your help
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: For the Aardwolf MUSHclient, is there a way to get it to keep the "chats echo off" option so I don't have to put it in every time?
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, edit the plugin so it doesn't do chats echo on
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: file -> plugins, double-click the aardwolf_chats plugin
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: Change "echo = true" to false?
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: basically, every time you start up, it's initializing that variable to want them echoed
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: Hmm, weird. It sets the echo variable to true in two places, the general script and the plugin connect function. I'll just change both to false.
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: Ugh, xml. I'm used to C++ and this is like reading Sanskrit.
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: in mush, how do you send via a trigger stuff to another window box?
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oooska Tech: Properly written XML should be pretty easy to read. . .
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: Well it's not Lisp, but it's still nothing like C++. :P
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: Looks more like a corrupted Bash script.
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ode, other windows are actually separate worlds
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: easiest way to see how to do stuff is to take a look at the plugins you already have that send to other windows/worlds
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i've tried that, its mumbojumbo to me
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in aardwolf_chats plugin...nick commented the part where he was actually sending it to the world...-- send to other world
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i'm trying stuff like that, of course it ain't working
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what're you trying to do that doesn't already exist in a plugin?
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: all i want is my campaign in another window
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i don't want it in a miniwindow and i had the gquest plugin edited to work but it is written in such a way that's its terrible to follow
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you already create the world?
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: and although you'd think just editing the expression and a few minor things would fix it, ther'es a lot of strange switches in the plugin
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: yeah its just hanging out here #7
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i have the expression ^You still have to kill (.*?) * \(*\)\.$  as the capture
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i had something else too that worked
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do you have regular expression checked?
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: yep
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because that expression is neither good as not regexp or as regexp
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the * by itself won't match
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: uhh i've tested it
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zogbad Tech: -10
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: it says * is the wildcard
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or if it does match, then gammon has a really messed up regexp engine
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Overlord Xantcha Tech: The * by itself isn't a wildcard in regex
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Overlord Xantcha Tech: YOu're essentially telling to match any number of spaces (the character before the *)
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's the wildcard in glob, which is MUSH's default matching style
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: so what do i use for wildcard then?
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mixed metaphores, as it were
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't  want a wildcard there...you're trying to match the literal *
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your wildcard is correct...(.*?)
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: uhh (?*.) is *
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: oh its converter is strange then, i should just write it out how i was taught to do this heh
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I've always been a fan of using character ranges instead of escapes, but that's personal style
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: k so now ^You still have to kill \* (.*?) \((.*?)\)\.$
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that should match
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: but still its not sending
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: good news tho is the wildcards work
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: just dunno how to send it to the other window
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: in the trigger am i supposed to tell it its a script?
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: Compile error World: Aardwolf Immediate execution [string "Trigger: "]:1: ')' expected near 'Obedience'    using send_to_world (Campaign, %1)
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: anyone here know what program you can get to conver .pdf and .lit ebooks to text files?
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: adobe reader
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: reader will view it, i need it to be a text file tho. i need a converter. I never played with ebooks before so Im not sure where to begin the conversion
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Centaurian Tharivol Tech: I use a program called "convertLIT GUI" to convert .lit to text
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: reader will view it and will also convert it to text
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: i believe reader won't convert it... you need adobe acrobat professional
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: are there any free pdf to text conerters out there?
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: convertlit isn't what the exe is called on my pc :P
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no you don't
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: adobe reader is a free one :P
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: it's the kinda thing a porn filter would block, shall we say :P
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Centaurian Tharivol P
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: wow, reader does do it.. im converting one of my books now and seein how it works
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I guess my adobe reader is the only one with file -> save as text
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can also export all of the image files with just reader
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for PDFs that have images and text
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i think it's jut the new version cause the old one i had before never had that option. i just upgraded to 9.1
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it's not just the new version...I've done it for at least 8 years
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I mostly use pdfs because they're the best format for books on a mobile device
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: the one i had before never had the option. that or i just overlooked it hardcore when i was trying ot find a way. i might have been looking too technical
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I used to convert a company's pdf newsletter to html by exporting the text and images with free reader
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you overlooked it
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: select all, copy/paste always worked as well
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: lol. i'll try that too. to convert rtf you just copy/paste it from the doc to the text file right? nothing fancy needed?
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I've done it from acroread 5...just checked a machine that still has v6, it's right there
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Anyone having trouble with lenny ppc mplayer?
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: no, I use winamp like sensible people ;)
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft runs away in utter terror!
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: I avoid GUIs.
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I like things that work with zmud and my creative remote :P
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, no gui for a video player is a bit of a contradition, but I have used mplayer well in the past
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: it's linux, it renders video as lines of ascii chars on a terminal
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft nogs at himself, he must be getting freaky!
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just started compiling it on my system again, but it'll take a while on my ancient hardware ;-)
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: anyone know how to turn off the help popup in mush?
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thurgood Tech: Control + Shift + P for the Plug-Ins menu, then turn it off, I don't remeber what it's called, but you'll find it.
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: uhh i'm not seeing it lol
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i see the help popup oh you nono, hit F1
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i'd like to use F1 for a macro
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thurgood Tech: Hmm, not sure about that one. I just start mine at F2. :P
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: this isn't the help popup that comes with aard client just the generic F1, so do i thur lol but its really strange that he put in there F1 as well so i figured well there's an off right?
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thurgood Tech: No clue, I'm not really a PC guy, I'm running MUSH through VirtualPC. :P
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: anyone using davos cmud tracker script converted for cmud from Atrei's
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: does anyone know how to make my plugin get evaluated first than the aliases?
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: Okay, setting up this desktop, what should I use for firewall and antivirus?
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: who needs a firewall etc.? i havn't had one on my computer since i bought it :P
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humpton Tech: probably should have them on before you start playing games...
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humpton Tech: probably should have them on before you start playing games...
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humpton Tech: oops, sorry
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: Humpton, I wouldn't think that MUSH would present much of a threat :P
T1/r7/2009-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humpton Tech: the threat that gets you is always the one you weren't prepared for...
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Anyone here use tinyfugue?
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: in zmud, I can capture a single word for a script with %1 (or 1%, I forget), how can I capture several words?  like 'lightning bolt'?
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silent Kalista Tech: Im using MushClient and I had little numbers to indicate I had different sessions open and I lost them so I cant switch between here and testers port anymore. Anyone know how I can get those little numbers back? :P'
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Kalista: View-->World Toolbar
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: SOrry, wrong one.
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silent Kalista Tech: I adore you Rathik.
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silent Kalista Tech: I found it ;)
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: View-->Activity Bar!
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: in zmud, I can capture a single word for a script with %1 (or 1%, I forget), how can I capture several words?  like 'lightning bolt'?
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: (%w) (%w)
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: so I cant type an alias word then several words (like 'newspell lightning bolt') and inthe commands of the alias I can plug 'lightning bolt' into a varable?
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: with %w I mean
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: with regular expressions, \w (and I'd assume %w with whatever client you're using) just matches [a-zA-Z].  To match a space, you'll need to do the equivalent of [\w ]+
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: hmm, %1 worked.. ok, nm.  :p
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gavriel Tech: anyone have a program with mush to track avg damage per combat round?
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: mental block. what's the command to force the next html element to clear a picture before starting?
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Check out the damage command in the mud - option 3 will give you the averages
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: any mush gurus?
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Don't ask to ask, just ask :P
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: hehe. im trying to make a script that supposed to send something to mush execute engine.  however its not capturing anything i send via world.send()
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Capturing via world.send()?
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: What do you mean?
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piesang Tech: hi tech ppl do u maby now how i can fix my mush client i cant see any of my channels only the tell channel what must i do
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: What language are you scripting with?
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: lua
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piesang Tech: hi tech ppl do u maby now how i can fix my mush client i cant see any of my channels only the tell channel what must i do
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Looks like Lua, Pedwiddle
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Oh, heh, he said that already :P
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: GentooX, what's your syntax?
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piesang Tech: hi tech ppl do u maby now how i can fix my mush client i cant see any of my channels only the tell channel what must i do
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: it works like this.  after <alias  xxxxx ><send>something</send></alias> will send something to the execute engine
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Piesang, seriously, don't spam.
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: I know when I was messing with things, I needed to have Send capitalized.  Dunno if it's that simple, but...
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon nods at GentooX.
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: I mean what is the line you're using currently?
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: however <alias script=yyy xxxxxx></alias>  function willsend(x,y,z) world.Send(z[1]) end wont
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: ... Could you post me your current script in a note?
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: ok will do
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piesang Tech: evry 1 run 6s3es from recall
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: what?
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Kisd Jspr Tech: he wants to try to kill barney :|
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: oh
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: null, I think, but ask on tech
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft gets a blank look on his face.
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: Why the hell am I downloading Windows Messenger if I'm just going to use Pidgin anyway? :S
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Map Freak Ithilion Tech: cuz you're a n00b~
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Happydog Madcatz Tech: Hmm, on October 26th, all GeoCities websites will disappear.
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: oh wow really?
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Happydog Madcatz Tech: Yep, Yahoo is shutting down GeoCities
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: ...and there was much GeoRejoicing
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: wow there's a lot of data i need save from such sites
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Happydog Madcatz Tech: "Please be aware that after October 26, your GeoCities files will be deleted from our servers, and will not be recoverable."
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: yeah i'm gonna need to go thru all my bookmarks and save anything then
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: that's gonna be annoying but out of the tons of bookmarks there aren't many on geocities
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: later
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alok Tech: i have zmud and would like to capture a word (name of mob) and put it in a variable is there anyone that can tell be how?
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: check out the various campaign capture scripts that already exist :-)
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alok Tech: where?
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bardis Tech: I like to know where to find them too :)
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: not-porn.com/Aardwolf.
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bardis Tech: Thanks
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alok Tech: yes thnks you
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: places to find scripts...clan websites, sites run by players...finger danj, fiendish, alhena for some scripts
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (zmud scripts, that is)
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylverwulf Tech: is there a plugin for MUSHclient for a static EQ/Inv screen?
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Anyone know how to get fixed fonts on mushclient in wine on linux?
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: courier new?
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: thanks, not using windows much these days, courier new's not there but old courier is. Works, but a bit ugly though.
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Can of Pringle Tech: Hmm. Let's say I wanted to make a zMUD script that would send a line of text to, say, the iwuvaard.org mob finder. How would I go about that?
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: better solution is to connect your zmud to the iwuvaard database
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Can of Pringle Tech: oh?
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gimme a minute for ozzy's url
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Can of Pringle Tech: the thing is though, I don't just want to do it for iwuvaard's mob DB
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Can of Pringle Tech: I also want it for the Gaardian Roominator and Light's maps
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Can of Pringle Tech: basically, I want to be able to highlight my campaign info, and use the speed menu to run a search on the text I've highlighted on the website of my choice
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: here's the URL to connect to the iwuvaard database
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: doubt there's a way to do it directly from zmud
T1/r7/2009-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not just passing a URL, which is the normal thing for zmud to do
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Is there a way to output stuff from tintin++ into a text file?
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Anyone running Lenny having issues with mplayer crashing?
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Everyone doing okay?
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oooska Tech: I am doing great.
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: What's a good program to open one of the "VI accessible map" xls files if I don't have Office?
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: excel viewer
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: Awesome, thanks.
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: my father spilled a little bit of soda on my laptop keyboard and now nothing will play in itunes, but stuff like youtube works
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon comforts Imzadi.
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: You're lucky that anything works ;)
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xcalibre Tech: nvm aard still works
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: but what would cause only itunes audio to not work but audio on youtube to work?
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Actually sounds more like a software issue
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: itunes was working fine until my father spilled the soda
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Maybe you pushed some keys while cleaning up. iTunes has its own volume control, is it turned all the way down?
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: it won't even start to play, though.  the song title loads in the window but it doesn't start to play
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: so it's not like it's playing with the volume down low
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Try reinstalling iTunes?
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oooska Tech: Have you uninstalled iTunes, cleared out the various setitngs files and re-installed?
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: no, i don't want to screw up my ipod
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oooska Tech: iTunes uses a lot of drm crap, especially if it's older purchased music that you didn't pay to get the unDRMed versions of)
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Life is Meaningless Tech: you can reinstall itunes without screwing up ipod or authorizatoins if you save the itunes library files
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: i really don't see how it could just be itunes.  it only started when my dad spilled the soda
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: i have over 10K songs in my itunes
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oooska Tech: Is this on a pc or mac?
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: pc
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: now there's a clicking sound coming from my computer :(
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oooska Tech: That doesn't sound good. . . do you have your important data already backed up?
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: That's either the HD, CD drive, or the speaker probably...
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: the only stuff i have is my music, and i have that on an external drive
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: well he spilled the soda right over the speaker :(
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon looks at Imzadi and goes "Hmmmm."
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: the speaker is right above the keyboard on my laptop
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: but i don't understand how that would cause the audio to go out only in itunes but nowhere else.
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oooska Tech: It likely wouldn't. Did the system shut down after the spill w/o saving?
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: nope
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Is the clicking coming from the speaker?
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: i don't know.  to be honest my hearing isn't that good so i can't really tell where sounds are coming from
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon goes, "Hmmmm."
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oooska Tech: My vote is more coincidence than anything. iTunes and quicktime are finicky, piss-poorly written programs on the Windows side of things at least. 
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon nods at Oooska.
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: it may be...it seems to get louder when i put my ear right near the speaker
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oooska Tech: I see them bugger up all the time for no comprehensible reason
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: oh i doubt it..it was working fine 'til my father spilled the soda
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: If you want to, I'd suggest taking the speaker out, cleaning it, and then letting it dry out completely
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: i have no idea how to do that
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Hrm
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I'dreccomend you take it to a tech..laptops are fiddly if you're not confident in your rpair ability
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon nods at Iron Duck Chuft.
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: They get nervous if their handler isn't confident.
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: i have a warranty but that usually requires that i send it in and it takes like a week...i need my computer :(
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: no desktop?
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: no, this is it
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: what linux client do people recommend? i'm looking for some kind of gui and a tick tijmer
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: shrug, laptops are cheap now
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: i don't have any money
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: and i just bought this one in January
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: zmud on wine?
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft sniggers quietly to himself, reflecting over an amusing thought.
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: is zmud on wine fairly easy to get going? or are there gotchas?
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: there are gotchas
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: If your tech level is beginner, it may be best to find another way
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: kildclient installed pretty easily for me ih  on linux and it did everything but give me a good tick timer
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: I hear mushclient on wine isn't too bad
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Kildclient is a nice client
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: is there a way to get a tick timer going for kild client?
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: If I didn't like TF better, I'd probably be using Kildclient.
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Just make one?
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: amaru is using that
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: if you're after a timer to tell you when yu're next due to do a quest ...
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: i mean a tick timer
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: then a trigger will do, the mud tells you when you're ready
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: but zmud runs rings around tf still ;)
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: There is nothing for Linux that is even close to MUSHClient. And MUSHClient on wine was too slow for me. Sounds silly, but your best option is probably VMWare with a Windows guest. Otherwise, tintin
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: You can make one using the built-in perl scripting, Wilbon.
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: i know how to set up a trigger but i cant find anything on how to make a timer count down and give a warning
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: alarms in zmud
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Use perl
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: just a counter on a button like in zmud
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: most clients have an equiv function, check for clan repop scripts on the web or something
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: With perl, you could make a trigger that triggers off the tick message, with body something like:
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: 12 Jul 10:59:04 - (Group) Chuft: 'There are 6 minutes and 34 seconds until Imperium repop.'
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: that kinda counter?
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: i'm looking for something like: tick in 5 seconds
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: "sleep(25)   //   $world->send("~5s to tick!")
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: oh, a tick timer..not built in?
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Pretty simple
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: shrug..used to it being integral with a nice countdown in my status bar :P
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: oladon this is in kildclient?
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: It's been a while since I used Kild, so you should check my syntax... but I think it's $world->send()
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Yes, in Kildclient.
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: if you want help with kildclient, I suggest you ask amarufox in tells
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: he's been playing with it recently, he'll have the stuff you need
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: he may have developed some scripts you can just import , but you'll have to ask him about that
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: ok thanks
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: anyone solve a css problem for me?
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: got the main content of a web page within  a div tag with auto height - when the content is long enough to go off the bottom of the page, rather than be able to scroll down using the regular scrollbar on the far right of the browser window, the y-scroll is all dead
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: any suggestions for making it behave normally?
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: this is crazy
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: can anyone tell me why the webpages i am working on no longer scroll down?
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oooska Tech: Up or page up key stuck?
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nitrana Tech: Anyone have preferences as to which GainReport scripts are 'better'
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: no, oooska, it's a div tag issue
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: even if you put an overflow:scroll element in the style description for the div, it still won't scroting-well scroll
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: so next: Write a 1000 word essay on why Div tags are utter crap
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i guess i'll come back later then, can't get on with this cockup, and google has nothing relevant
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newname Tech: I have a (hopefully quick and easy) zmud question.   I have two triggers that might trigger off the same line of text.  I want one to trigger before the second.  Is there a simple way to force that?
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newname Tech: hmmm... no-one got this on I guess...
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Give them a chance to work it out ;)
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: I'm not btw, I don't use zmud
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: Hm, why does it have to be separated into two triggers?
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: Because that gets kinda messy.
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newname Tech: ya it does need to be two triggers.  One is off my prompt.  and the other is off text.  WHich sometimes is on the same line as my prompt
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newname Tech: and I want the one that is off my prompt to be triggered first.
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newname Tech: nm I got my own work around would still like to know if forcing trigger order is possible:)
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: any .css conversant people in the house?
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: why are powermacs so heavy?
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: because they're shit
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: they're your favourite computer
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: your mum!
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: your face
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Can of Pringle Tech: Tech, where we discuss the important issues.
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: look, a daoine, the voice of maturity :P
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Can of Pringle Tech: Your face.
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: what terrible irony :P
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: your mum's face!
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mjorinon Morinon Tech: Your grandmother's face.
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Can of Pringle Tech: Morinon: YOUR grandmother's face.
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: anyone know then why suddenly my the web pages i've written won't scroll down?
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Can of Pringle Tech: Which browser are you using, and what kind of CSS are you using?
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: ie8 or ie7
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: tech xhtml1-transitional
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: page has a top bar div, a sidebar div, and a main content div. The main content div contains more info than fits on the screen without scrolling down, but scroll bars have disappeared from the browser window
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: does it across several different pages
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: in true ie8 mode, there's no browser vertical scroll bar at all. in ie8 compatibility mode, the scroll bar is present, but greyed out and useless
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: was sure it had something to do with the div tag itself
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: even if i explicitly set the height of the div tag, it still won't scroll down
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: would this be corret regex to check for an email? /[A-Z0-9._%-]+\A-Z0-9._%-]+\.[A-Z]{2,6}
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: sorry forgot the second @ ... /[A-Z0-9._%-]+\@[A-Z0-9._%-]+\.[A-Z]{2,6}
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Not even close.
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Don't even try writing a regexp for email validation.  Find an existing library that doesn't suck.
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: whine
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: why would people use div's when they just simply don't work?
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: sortof ish fixed it
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Virion Tech: I use zmud and was wondering if someone could tell me how to use my arrow keys to move instead of typing directions and entering.
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fostenel Tech: Can someone tell me how to togle extra info like '{chan ch=newbie}' after using the Aard MUSHclient?  I toggled statmon, but can't find the setting for that other stuff.
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: tags channels off
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Statmon is another one.
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fostenel Tech: Thank you
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Type 'tags' for more options, too.
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fostenel Tech: yeah, tags is what I was looking for
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: is it possiable to set multiple vars into a var in php?
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you can have an array
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: can anyone tell me what video card the powermac g4 1ghz single, and the g4 466mhz used?
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: google can I bet
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: google didn't, but apple did
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aan Tech: hello, got a problem with the customized mush client
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: like what
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aan Tech: everytime i try to consult an help file it crashes
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aan Tech: the game client, i mean
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fostenel Tech: Are you runing under wine in linux?
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aan Tech: ideed i am
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: well, you can remove that plugin and help files will just appear normally and not in new window
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: should stop your crashing
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fostenel Tech: I had the same problem.  Fixed it by changing wine to run it as win98
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fostenel Tech: The problem happens anytime notepad opens.  Setting it for windows 98 or lower fixes it.
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aan Tech: ok, will try to run it in win98 emu
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aan Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aan Tech: ok, fixed it, thanks
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: Is there a way to have an alias send another alias, don't know if that makes sense
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Yes, that makes sense. What client?
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: what client?
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, you can do that rath
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: Mush
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for MUCH, have it send to execute instead of send to world
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err MUSH
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik rapidly nods twice to you, in complete agreement.
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: Oh wow, to easy, thanks
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: uh oh.. it just sort of reversed it.. now I lost one of the aliases
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syaoran Tech: Anyone know how to lookup the hex for a wep passphrase? My router is unresponsive and I don't want to walk downstairs to reset it. :P
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DarkSlayer Zeerus Tech: yeah faster to just go get it
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syaoran Tech: Thanks, zee.
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: some of the interfaces have a button to convert between the easy password & the hex
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Could run Wirelesskeyview on another computer connected to the wireless router that has they key stored, but its not much faster
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syaoran Tech: Heh. I know the passphrase, I just need the hex.
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: google convert passphrase to wep key
T1/r7/2009-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syaoran Tech: http://www.powerdog.com/wepkey.cgi
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odiah Tech: Anyone know a way to turn off world saving, it keeps giving me an error that the access is denied
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odiah Tech: World list, that is
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syaoran Tech: What's the command in linux to show all pci devices?
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fostenel Tech: lspci
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metrac Tech: What's a good, tiny Linux distro other than DSL that'd run great on a 4GB HDD PoS computer?
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syaoran Tech: Dur, thanks.
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: hahaha
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fostenel Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: oh i thought that nevermind
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: pretty much anything as long as you don't install a bunch of random crap.
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metrac Tech: ...Not really helpful. I meant something targetted towards older computers, like DSL, except... not DSL
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: gentoo gentoo gentoo
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: dsl is probably your best bet
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syaoran Tech: True. Gentoo rawks.
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metrac Tech: Oh god Gentoo
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fostenel Tech: Gentoo FTW
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metrac Tech: Drove me half insane...
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: do it again youll get 100%
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: gentoo + framebuffer + qingy + fluxbox + YOUR POS
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syaoran Tech: Haha.
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: thats less than 300MB i presume
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Metrac < DSL sucks
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Metrac :< DSL sucks
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metrac Tech: and Gentoo is EVIL
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: very true  >> You are an Avatar of Darkness.
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: how do you know my alignment metrac?
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: anyway metrac like balaam said, any distro will work.  most of them have the utility to select what you want to install anyway :)
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metrac Tech: Hannah Montana Linux > Gentoo >;3
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syaoran Tech: Lies.
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metrac Tech: Well I was thinking more of having it just run from a LiveCD
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: Gentoo LiveCD
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metrac Tech: And the ISO has to be small enough to fit on this HDD as I burn it
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metrac Tech: And as most LiveCDs are 700MB, it'd have to be a DSL-esque distro
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fostenel Tech: I've foung Gentoo LiveCD to usually be in a sorry state.
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: so why is DSL no good?
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: Gentoo LiveCD is no good.
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metrac Tech: Alright, I guess DSL is alright for a LiveCD distro...
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syaoran Tech: Wasn't aware it had one.
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: minimalists dont usually bother about it :)
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Ubuntu LiveCD?
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syaoran Tech: Man, linux does not like my ATI cards.
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metrac Tech: Arnica, this computer can't even run Dwarf Fortress
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metrac Tech: I seriously doubt the Ubuntu LiveCD would work.
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cresyn Tech: every Ubuntu CD is also a "Live" CD
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cresyn Tech: Just boot it up and run it. it may not discovery your ATI card immediately 
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cresyn Tech: because ATI wont releae their drivers as open source
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fostenel Tech: I think xord has pretty good support now days
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cresyn Tech: however a button will appear in your task bar asking you to allow 3rd party driver
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: what's dwarf fortress, is that some cool new game for the computer box?
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fostenel Tech: xorg*
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cresyn Tech: just click yes to allow and it will work
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Metrac is a pig. He just coughed at Ode, covering him in spittle.
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syaoran Tech: I don't use ubuntu.
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cresyn Tech: you dont have to "use" ubuntu you can try it just by booting it from CD
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fostenel Tech: Then use the LiveCD to install Gentoo
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cresyn Tech: ubuntu is the way to go if you dont like hassels
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syaoran Tech: I already have Gentoo installed.
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cresyn Tech: ive run it on cheapo machines from staples all the way to 20k blades w/o issue
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: it takes 20,000 blades to run linux? No way, I'll stick to windows.. least it only takes 1 computer to run
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: lol?
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cresyn Tech: 20k is money
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cresyn Tech: cheapo
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syaoran Tech: Heh. :P
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yeah, 20000 computers I bet costs a lot of money..
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Sorry, I'll stop trolling tech.
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: question: do you know what a "blade" is?
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: L33tM4st3r Lashan grins evilly.
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Overlord Xantcha Tech: Something I shave with?
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: L33tM4st3r Lashan commits seppuku.
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yes I know what a blade is, Its a server design that.. I believe its dell sells to fit 10 servers in 7 units of rack space
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cresyn Tech: its just a stripped down computer made to fit a small space - to the layman it looks like a pizza box
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metrac Tech: -
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Laymen eat pizza?
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cresyn Tech: even the rich each pizza just ask MJ (rip)
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metrac Tech: Is there any alternatives to ActivePerl on Windows?
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dingaling Tech: cygwin?
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metrac Tech: That are simple enough to setup
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metrac Tech: Besides Cygwin
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: i thought there was another one, but i always used activeperl
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metrac Tech: My HDD is only 4GB, and somehow it only has 70MB left on it... I dont have a clue what's taking up all the space, but ActivePerl cant fit on it :/
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: which windows are you using?
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Where did you manage to find a 4gb hdd
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metrac Tech: XP
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dingaling Tech: perl.com is saying strawberry perl. nverheard of it
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: my 1998 PII with 4Gb is running on microXP
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Anyone got any coding experience for tintin++?
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon points excitedly at Trurien!
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: TT *eeps* might as well jump into the deep end and learn TinyFugue...
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: TF++!
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: speaking of tf can you define the command stacker to not require the %?
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1 of 2 Oladon Tech: I believe so...
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: Of course that would now mean search and replacing them all back to semi-colons... Abe needs to build an aardtf to compete with that icky gui client *ducks*
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1 of 2 Oladon Tech: Eww, I wouldn't want a GUI on TF
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1 of 2 Oladon doesn't much like GUIs.
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: i wrote a /multi command that strips out the ";
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: you don't always want the ";" removed... gtell anyone?
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1 of 2 Oladon grins evilly at Trashbat! Anipopo.
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1 of 2 Oladon Tech: Hmm, wait... why would you want to strip the ; ?
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: speedwalk qmob; kill qmob; home; sleep 30m; wake....
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1 of 2 Oladon looks at Trashbat! Anipopo ponderingly.
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1 of 2 Oladon Tech: You'd want to replace them with %;, no?
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: no, gui just a package to go and make tf aard ready... The docs are so sparse that there isn't as much a learning curve as a learning vertical wall.
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1 of 2 Oladon looks at Twisting FatesDagger and goes "Heh."
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: probably, but i can foresee some situations where you'd get in lots of trouble, and always the opportunity for infinite loops
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1 of 2 Oladon Tech: Infinite loops are fun!
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1 of 2 Oladon creates infinite loops for exercise each day.
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: and the default to stacking off at the command line drove me crazy trying to hand test an alias *glares at Abe* You could have mentioned that at some point in your converting me....
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1 of 2 Oladon rolls on the floor laughing at Twisting FatesDagger's antics!
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1 of 2 Oladon Tech: You could always change it
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: yeah /sub on/off, I was about ready to toss tf out until I was given that nugget... hard to stack past guards otherwise...
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: I use /eval <stuff>
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Then you don't have to toggle
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: I hadn't considered that one past forcing variable expansion for swapping back to default portal.
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon goes, "Heh."
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: I have my default stuff aliased MUD-side
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: drm = "dual remove", 0 = "hold garbage can", - = "enter", '=' = "dual <currentdualweapon>"
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Then I can just go drm 0-=
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: what gets me is the stuff you find out about *after* the fact like \ for readability :P
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Eh?
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: you know how ugly a manual spellother is when you're going /alias spellthem and a huge list of cast x %1; etc until done?
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: might have the slash wrong dir... need coffee.
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yuudoku Refinnej comforts Twisting FatesDagger.
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Uh huh... oh, you mean \
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: You mean %;\ ?
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: and nod vs making it all a 400 character line ;)
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon chuckles politely.
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: I learned that from the TF script I downloaded off iwuvaard
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: sounds like the same way you manage multiline commands in unix
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Similar, Gonf, nods
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: Hmm scripts on iwuvaard... Have to check there, I might might have a few wheels that I don't need to reinvent then.
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: You could also always... you know... *coughaskcough*
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: Just be aware it's badly out of date
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Not for learning the language, Refinnej.
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: Oladon - Good point.  Just that he might find scripts that have been updated but not posted there.
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: yeah, I was going to abe but it was a matter of catching him at keyboard... up until a week ago him and eureka were the only people I knew running it.
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Possibly, but I don't think a whole lot of people do public TF scripting... me, Abelinc, and Anipopo.
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon boggles at Twisting FatesDagger.
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: You've always known I use TF!
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: You just forgot :(
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: I'm just bugging Abe to finish converting his spellup script to support tags...
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Heh.
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: Now that I know more about its scripting it is not as bad... Coming from Zmud didn't help, expecting that /save would save everything was a big frustration factor... Oh well at least I found that gnu is still doing their extremely stripped down mg editor... the commands are hard coded from using it way too much on the amiga.
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: I have a few macros that save stuff to files  -- you can make one! :D
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Linkdead) Alorien Tech: Does anybody have any knowledge on how to connect to secured wireless network? I think my password was changed, and I don't know how to access it now.
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: what pw
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: reset your router to factory settings?
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: if its to connec tto router you may need to hold in reset on the router for 30 seconds then it will be all defaults
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oooska Tech: Anyone else running MUSHclient on win7, and notice it runs very sluggish and stops responding far more freqently than on XP/Vista?
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: wonder if microsoft are listening
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yuudoku Refinnej snorts.
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well i'm having an email conversation with them, so someone must be ;-)
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: trying to get them to change their oem/retail selling practices
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: good luck with that
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tigernuts shrugs helplessly.
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's in their interests
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: current system is costing them a lot of money
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: simple solution for them is to not allow the distribution of oem products to anyone but trade-only resellers
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if they do that, people will buy the retail boxed sets
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: which, according to the oem licensing laws, they should've been buying in the first place
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Any tt++ gurus have a sec?
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: hey whats up i use tintin
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Hmmm. Is there a way to turn an excel spreadsheet into a sqlite database file?
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Overlord Xantcha Tech: convert the lines into INSERT INTO statements?
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus sits down and thinks deeply. 
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: That could take a while. Sounds fun. :)
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Overlord Xantcha Tech: Naw.
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: shouldn't take more than a few secs with a text editor
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: save as csv, then do global search/replace
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Overlord Xantcha Tech: a simple formula in an unused column should do it
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Oo... you're right. Much quicker than I imagined.
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Thanks and appreciate it much!
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hehe, I do sooo much in my text editor my excel formula skills sux0rz, I always go back to doing it the way I know best
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Overlord Xantcha Tech: depends on the format of the source for me... but yeah, doing a quick regex on a textfil is often faster
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: There are only just over 6800 records to import. :P
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I swear, I wouldn't know how to do 1/2 the stuff I do for work if it weren't for MUDding and scripting tf ;-)
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Overlord Xantcha chuckles politely.
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: does anyone use tintin++?
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cartman's the main tt++ user, but zmud is based on tt++, so many of the commands are the same
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: i use it
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: i just got linux so i'm wondering what to use as a mud client - i used zmud on windows
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: you can use zmud on linux
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: or tintin++ is good
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: i tried kildclient but couldnt get a tifick timer working
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: zmud or MUSH on wine work OK, my preferred client is tinyfugue :-)
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: i guess i will try tinyfugue
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Achillis Tech: i thought the mushclient is the best
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Clive Tech: Personally, I prefer zMUD
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: this tt++ is messing me up, i cannot backspace over previous stuff if other people put stuff onto my screen while i type
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: tt++'s serving me well, in what way is tf better?
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: type #split
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there should be a "visual mode"
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: the personal service you get from abelinc when it doesn't work :P
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: #split helps alot
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: thanks for the #split
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: this helps a lot
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: go on tintin++'s site and check out commands
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: i like grep
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: i like telnet, personally
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You decide the only way to have some quiet is to gag L33tM4st3r Lashan.
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: L33tM4st3r Lashan snickers softly.
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, there's never an excuse to use telnet :-)
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: on tt++ is there a way to get the ticker countdown to appear on a button somewhere like in zMud?
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: you can use the ticker command to give you a warning before each tick
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: anyone know why the xp plugin from gammon for mush won't work?
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: how about some details? are you receiving an error?
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i'm seeing nothing
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: killing mobs and if i type xp i just get the help
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: oh there it goes
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: not sure what resolved it lol i did just reinstall everything there k so i'm gonna kill more it might be ok now
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you probably had tags turned off
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: tags?
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i don't htink so
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: now its doing it hmm
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, I know why...you're an empath, it wasn't written to know how to see separated experience
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: actually i don't have separated experience on mate
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: but nice try :P
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for combat empathy
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i am not using combat empathy
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why not? there's no reason to not use it :P
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: uhh you only get 1 skill and the other one i am using i would rather use
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: but i think i could manage to rewrite it if i were using it, should be just an inbetween variable
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, slist doesn't show any other spell sharing combat empathy's recovery
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you can just type exprate to change the display
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: well glad you pointed that out
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so what skill are you using instead of free exp?
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: the other empath stuff
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, combat empathy is the only empath-only ability
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i didn't think so
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Using it shouldn't affect using other psi skills.
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus sits down and thinks deeply. 
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: well whatever help file's flavor threw me a bit
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: so its back in the rotation hehe
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, that's one that is all good with no downside
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: well the cooldown is kinda bad
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but it's free when it's up
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: yeah if you exp the entire time tho its only about a 2% increase but hey its free
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Heh. If you have exprate wish and combat empathy on, and you only exp when you have combat empathy on, you get 40 free levels. :P
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: What makes it nice is that on double exp, the max exp you would be able to get is 720 exp. :P
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odiah Tech: then you should wait to be empath till 7th remort? if thats possible
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Why do that when you can be an empath all 7 morts and cut down your levels by 20%? :P
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why would waiting be good when you could get the bonus on all morts
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odiah Tech: oh right, I forgot the skills carried over
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: since we're on it, what's a good xp rate
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's more of a personal thing, depends on your priorities & end goals
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: I'm a big fan of "Whatever doesn't get me killed" level of exp. ;-)
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Meh, dying isn't so bad ... i have aver 250 deaths
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: if you're solely xping, how many xp/hour or whatever
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, see ref has 2 tiers more than me but 1/8th the deaths ;-)
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yuudoku Refinnej grins mischievously at you.
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ode, as many as it takes to have you enjoy the game :-)
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we have players that take a year for a single mort, we have players that "finish" the game in a year...
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: you're not answering my question
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: lol you're answering a diff one lol
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: That's because there IS no answer, Ode.
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes I am...I'm telling you that there IS no answer to your question
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: meh whatever that's not the question i asked tho
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: getting dragged by a T9 will have vastly different exp per hour than slogging on your own
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: You asked what's a good rate. There is no 'good' rate. It's defined by YOU personally.
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: If you feel you're doing well, then it's a good rate
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the ONLY answer to a "good amount of exp/hour" is "whatever you're PERSONALY happy with"
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ode just slid his dagger through his stomach! You feel sick...
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thurgood Tech: They are lying, the optimal rate is 26486.25 exp/hour. If you're not hitting this you should be feeling quite insufficient.
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You giggle in his presence.
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Oh, too bad. I just met that with this double! *inno*
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Does that include tier bonuses?
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tiers get bonus exp? :-)
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: I wish!
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Overlord Xantcha Tech: My personal record is 201000xp in 1 second
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thurgood Tech: I've got an algorithm around here somewhere....
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Oh, silly me, that's not a bonus exp, it's just they have a better exp rate
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, they have the capability to kill faster, since they're using better gear and higher level spells
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: Now that I believe.  It's just with this third tier that I really feel like I'm killing things faster
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: also get exprate?
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: helps a bit i hear
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gives you 20 free levels per mort, yup
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ode runs away in utter terror!
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: how much does it take to adapt zmud scripts to tt++, they look pretty similar?
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: whats a good program to use to burn avi's to dvd to be read in a regular dvd player? I need to give a copy of this movie of my son to his gpa and can't seem to find anything that works right
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: imgburn
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: imgburn is good for burning the images themselves, but i need something to make the dvd image... i made the vid using the generic windows movie maker if that helps
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: most dvd players can play any common video format burnt on a disk
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: If that doesn't work, check out Convert X To DVD
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: does convertxtodvd allow you to add multiple video files into a single dvd?
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Yeah, up to the play length time limit. I've used it to, for example, make a dvd with several episodes of a tv show.
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: ok, that'll work then. i'll be able to add both vids. thanks bro!
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: is there a aardwolf resource for tt++?
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not really
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: anyone using tintin?
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: can someone help me with tintin triggers?
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i found this game good practice for parsing, i think i should introduce it to my class
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: lawl
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: and make them do plugins :)
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: ok, interesting question. I have a dvd-rw, in the past i've burnt dvd's just fine with no issues, now when i burn a dvd no computer will read it and my dvd player for the tv won't read it. I get no errors in burning, it says everything completed ok. I can burn regular cd's with no issues.. is it just a burnt out dvd-burner head or what?
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Can the computer that burnt it read it after it's burnt?
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: nope.
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: and i've tried 4 other computers and it won't read either. data or movie 
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Just using Windows Explorer to burn?
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: windows won't even recognize it as a dvd. it just says cd
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: and no, i used nero for the data, and like 5 programs for the video files
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: is it possible the media itself is an issue?
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: like the dvd-r's
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: aye
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: same dvd-r's i been usin that worked just fine a few months ago
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: could also be filesystem of the media
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: by why all of a sudden would it quit working? i haven't changed anything, and it just quit. 
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: does it happen for every media you burn?
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: cd-r's burn just fine, dvd-r's won't work
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: and did you try using another burning software?
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: several
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: hmmm.  strange... need to think
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: im trying a different type of dvd now. gimme a minute. when the windows explorer thing pops up to burn, it also says CD not DVD
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: could be a problem in your underlying dvd drivers
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: that's what i was just thinking too. if it turns out the media i'm trying is still not working after using a completely different brand I'm gonna see if there are driver updates for this dvd-rw. I haven't had to install anything for it before... just odd
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: how is your memory usage doing?
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: what do you mean
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: how much RAM do you have and how much is in use
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: coz windows tends to disable IDE channels when its out of resources
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: 2 gigs of ram, where do i check how much is being used?
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: taskmanager, but i doubt you are using all of it, its a large ram :)
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i lied. w
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: crap, i hate this... 462/3943
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syaoran Tech: GentooX, is there a list of compatable video cards for gentoo?
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i dont know about that. im using intel x3100
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syaoran Tech: Hmm. I have dual radeon hd 4850s...
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: stapleface, on your task manager under applications your usage should be displayed at the bottom
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: it was like 400/4000
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Just curious...what version of Nero, and did you update it around the time this problem started?
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: its happening to all of his burning tools
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I know
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: But some older versions of Nero caused some people to have to reflash their dvd drives
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Which is what I'd try, regardless, probably
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i just reflashed the drive, updated the drivers, lets see what happens. burning again
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: ahh do you have an independent tools in windows to get informations on your physical hardware?
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: And just to make sure...you're not just trying the same dvd-rw over and over again, are you?
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: They can be bad
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: he is trying others to from what i can say
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: yeah, new dvdr every time
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: and it's not reading..
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: it's a pioneer dvdr-111d. flashed it to the most recent bios... and i'm lost. the only other thing i can think of is check the mb bios and see if something in there is funky
T1/r7/2009-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: no other ideas?
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: any tintin users out there?
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: aargh how to i get triggers not to mess up my split bottom?
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: in tintin?
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: ok so how do i clear "no buffer space available" error 
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: get more buffer space.
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: uhh well i believe my router hiccuping causing a pileup
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: we're having issues with our cable, router occassionally needs to be reset but even our cable is screwing up...how its been happening lately is 
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: my comp won't be allowed to make any new connection but any existing connection still works then at some point either ip lease or whenever the router feels like it i lose all internet
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i've checked on the other comp and somehow it contacts me and i could still ping 
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: until everything went out, i also couldn't get into the router settings on my comp but could on the other but as soon as i clicked any link in there the router page locked out
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: resetting the router got the internet back online but my comp would not reconnected due to lack of available buffer space  is there some way to force out all the crap that piled up?  
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: there's like no info on this on the net lol
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: k i stumped everyone lol
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Umm...  get the cable fixed.  If it is line noise, there isn't anything that you can do on the computer to fix it.
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: its cable outside the house
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: just to be clear
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: but other than that, reset the tcp stack whenever needed.
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: yeah but nothing i can do so i don't need to restart comp to get internet back
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: k how do i reset it 
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: probably not, if you're using windows.
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: tell phalae Gee, you think?  Sorry for the s
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: oops.
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: hehe
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314067
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: that was the right clipboard :)
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: this problem is like brought on because of something else
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: if it is line noise, there isn't much you can do aside from call the cable company to complain.  Then they will say you're using the cable wrong and delay fixing it for like four months.
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i've done all the troubleshooting
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: oh this is the worst cable company ever
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i could spend hours telling you stories
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: most of this stuff in the article i've done there's nothing my comp's doing to mess it up to the best of my knowledge as every computer in the house experiences the same deal
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: but there isn't some way to just clear my tcp/ip stuff
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: the article shows how to reset arp (real quick issue), how to check remote connections, etc.
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I thought the bits about TCP at the bottom were links, but they aren't...
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i did save that page for next time this happens
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: netsh int ip reset reset.log  <-- the reset.log is not needed, but it will create a log file if you do.
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: and that clears the buffer?
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: it resets the TCP/IP stack, in theory.
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: thanks!  that's the best answer i've had so far and next time i will try it hopefully after resetting the router i can do that and the internet will work again without rebooting computer
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: that also shouldn't require a reboot, but it might.  I still don't understand the rebooting due to network changes that Windows seems to like requiring.
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: well as i get it, when my net dies i don't get the "limited connectivity" or anything so nothing logs off, and i think it stacks a bazillion packets
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: It probably just has some hung connections that are still open, but haven't gotten a close signal.  That's what 'netstat -a' is for
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: well, to see them, anyway.
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syaoran Tech: Balaam are you familiar with X-org?:P
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Familiar as in I use it.  Not familiar as in I understand it well.
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syaoran Tech: Phooey.
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: but ask away, on the long shot that I can answer.  Or someone else can.
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: but to me i guess, it feels like a microsoft failsafe that just happens because of the cable problem whether that be the router or poor quality signal  our cable "digital box" is commonly experiencing picture/channel breakup
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: and as i said last few days its been really bad
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: so again thanks i saved all that stuff in a notepad :D
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: no problem.
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I've had to do that enough for spotty open Wifi connections.
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: do i have a fair grasp of what's actually going on?
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: yea
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Sounds roughly right.  If you get a crappy networking signal, no OS will deal with that well.  At least you're just getting an error instead of kernel panics :)
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sieral Tech: Anybody know where i can find some zmud scripts that show xp info etc.?
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sieral Tech: no?
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: http://www.not-porn.com/Aardwolf
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sieral Tech: yeah, nothing on that one, looked at it already
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sieral frowns.
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Tintin script help needed... I'm trying to capture mobdeaths info.
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Does anyone know how to fix the fact that music channel doesn't show names, and that i don't see yells anymore on Mush?
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Have the chats plugin installed?
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Yes
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: It's the white-beginning of line thing, I bet
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei nods at Apprentice Oladon.
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: The one from Fiendish's site fixes that
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Fiendish(?) released a fix for it
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Why is it only suddenly doing it though?
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: When was the last time you saw a yell? :P
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: I don't know, i just tried today and saw that it just showed up as a blank line
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: But anyways, that's most likely your problem.
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: i used to see them though
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oooska Tech: So that's why I see random text showing up with no people talking. . . heh
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oooska Tech: It's a problem with the current plugins I believe
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: ok fiendish's script fixed the yell lemme test the music
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: ok, fixed. thanks guys
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Anyone good with tintin++ regexp parsing?
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Is my Internet Explorer malfunctioning (I haven't used it for years or is it seriously supposed to take up more resources than Firefox?
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: Which version are you tunning?
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: what version?
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: 8.0.6001 whatever
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: hmm dunno, I'm using IE7, runs fine
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Hmm... OK, so it's not more resourceheavy. It's just really laggy.
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: did you try restarting it?
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yes
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shiruyumi Tech: Any ideas why if I set my resolution to 1600x1200, rather than making the display smaller, it keeps it the same size and has it scroll to view the whole screen?
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: You're changing your workspace size and not the actual resolution.
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Anyone know how to change GNOME settings so that the desktop doesn't show the contents of your home folder?
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syaoran Tech: Use KDE?:P
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Well, that's another issue, but I want to solve them one at a time :P
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syaoran Tech: What distro are you using?
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I was using eeebuntu 2.0 (8.04 ported to the eee), but the setting I think should be similar across GNOME versions +/- 0.0.1?
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syaoran Tech: Hmmm. I've never had my desktop display the contents of my home folder. Only my desktop folder.
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fyng Tech: I added a trigger to the aard mushclient to change the color of "*beetle*"...now I can't find it to remove it.
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oooska Tech: ctrl+shift+8 to brign up the trigger window/options
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fyng Tech: Yeah, but it's not there.
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oooska Tech: Weird. 
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fyng is agreeing with that Oooska person again...
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oooska Tech: Not familiar with the client yet to offer any other suggestions unfortunately
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fyng Tech: Thanks anyways.
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: I'm trying to sell a dell dimension 8250, Intel Pentium 4, 2.4ghz processor, 256 ram, geforce mx 400 64mg video card. It comes with a 14" flatscreen moniter. Would I be lucky to get $200 for this?
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, didn't the 8250s use RIMMs?
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd be very lucky to get that...you can buy a new dell for close to that
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: I don't know, that was just the info I could get from dxdiag
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can look up its original specs using the service tag on support.dell.com
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: I totally got to get rid of it, how much do you think is a reasonable price?
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: prolly, I wouldnt pay 200tech 8250 used rimms
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: whoops
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: Is rimms just a sort of special Dell hardware thats like only offered through them in the mail or something?
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: no its RAMBUS memory
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rimm is rambus memory...hella expensive
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: RIMMs are rather expensive memory.  They were good at the time, but quite rare now, driving up the price.
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: A few Gateway computers had them, as well.
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: the 8250 was the pimp ass machine in the lineup like...5? years ago
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: yup o.O
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Blessed Balaam rapidly nods twice at Fedraz, in complete agreement.
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: was about $1800 dollors back then
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: if you absolutely need to sell it I dont know what to tell you, Persoally I would keep it. Its a decent box
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: and just as a side note. the only thing Dell ever did that was propriatery was the PSU connection with the mainboard. And they dont even do that anymore though some odd models had strange PSU shapes and were hard to find afrermarket.
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, dell's currently running a special on the employee purchase plan site...$1k for a desktop, a laptop, and a mini-notebook combined
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: anyone know a program to convert pdf to xhtml?
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: ok, how about we start at pdf to html, and then I'll go from html to xhtml
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Acrobat can do that... sometimes...  depends on how the pdf was generated originally.
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Might want to look into laTeX, as well.
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: you could just go online and convert it
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: how do you convert it online? that's what i'm trying to figure out now. i thought i needed them in text format, but it requires xhtml. like a tard i read the wrong proggie
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: you want to go from xhtml to pdf or pdf to xhtml
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: pdf to xhtml
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: and after that i need lit to xhtml, and txt to xhtml.
T1/r7/2009-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i got 3 types of files i need converted. :(
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: hm how come my zmud automapper doesn't update my position when i safe speedwalk?
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: safe sw?
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: its one of the 3 options to speedwalk using the zmud map
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Ateam shrugs helplessly.
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: i have no clue what your talking about :P
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: yea i can tell thanks
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: ok, i'm running out of ideas. anyone know how to convert pdf to html?
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: download a program that does it
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: anyone have a link to one of those nifty zmud identify scripts?
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: any zmud mappers here?
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: any idea why #IF ('%1'=50 or 100 or 150) isn't working in zmud?
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: ...need to repeat the '%1'= part?
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: hmm, so (%1=blah or %1= blah2)?
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: That'd be my guess, yeah
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: nope, doesn't work
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: I forget - is a single = in Zmud for assigning a value or for comparing?
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: think they're the same
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: makes no difference anyway
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: ...also, are you sure that 'or' is a boolean or, or do you need to use '||' or '|'?
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: anyone here using zmapper
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: or is an accepted syntax
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: managed to get it to work, need to quote the numbers too
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: thanks :)
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Heh - didn't do much, if anything, but you're welcome regardless
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: telling me i needed to have multiple = statements was helpful :P
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Heh, k - then you're still welcome.  :-P
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jippen Tech: How do I disable blank line outputs?
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rockfist Tech: anyone on channel who can explain to me how mccp works so i can make my own mccp proxy?
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Well, couple things
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rockfist Tech: i know only server output is compressed... how
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: through zlib
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rockfist Tech: how is it compressed and how to decompress
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: why would you need to?
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: First off, there's a page on mudbytes with the implementation details of mccp v1 and v2
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rockfist Tech: i need my own proxy because there is none for linux, as far as i know
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: And second, there are already MCCP proxies out there, or they are already built into your client
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: yes there is.
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Why not just use a real client?
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: (unless you are doing this for fun)
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rockfist Tech: i have real client- powwow
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Never heard of it. Try TinyFugue, or KMUDdy
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: use zmud
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Or MUSHclient through Wine!
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rockfist Tech: zmud is dead slow through wine i hear
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: so install windwos
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rockfist Tech: windows sucks
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: there are linux clients
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: or just use the mccp client for linux.
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: You have a lot of options that don't involve obscure clients no one has ever heard of before.
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: windows sucks far less than linux
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rockfist Tech: try it before saying something like that
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Rockfist, don't mind Farkyss...
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: He's our resident *dozer
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i have, and it sucks more than windows does
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rockfist Tech: ok.. back to subject.. tinyfugue or kmuddy have mccp?
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Yes.
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you mean, just because i'm not a masturbating linux fanboy? :-)
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon raises an eyebrow at Feral Farkyss's weird actions.
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Yes, in fact all "real" clients have them
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon nods at Rathik.
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: There are a few other Linux clients as well... TF has no GUI (it's great), and is my preferred client... there's KMUDdy, KildClient (native perl scripting, woot!), there's Tintin...
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rockfist Tech: ok ill check out either tinyfugue or kmuddy or both
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: or zmud :-)
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rockfist Tech: tintin has mccp?
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: And MUSHclient!
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon nods at Rockfist.
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: It does, Rockfist
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: tintin++ has MCCP
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rockfist Tech: hehe and there is tintin++ for linux too? ill get tintin then.. i used to use it like 10 years ago
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Yes, a few people use it here.
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Mainly just Cartman!
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: So bug him with all your questions :D
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: And a few others :P
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: its a unix client... it works on any flavor of unix including OS X.. also runs in a terminal window on windows if you're so inclinded
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Trurien uses it, iirc
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rockfist Tech: i lost some to spam... whom to bug?
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Trurien and Cartman are probably your best bet
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: TinyFugue has a bit larger following...
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: TF has abelinc, and he seems to always be on
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: I use it too :P
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: i've been writing some scripts for tintin actually, is there any good place to share them?
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I would suggest the Internet.
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Yeah, that's pretty good place!
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metrac Tech: Tell me more about this "internet" you speak of
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: You should publish them in a research journal!
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: I have a spellup script posted on the tt++ forum... its the only place I could find without starting a free webpage loaded with popups and banner ads
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: make a website, put it in your finger info.  Advertise on channels.
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rockfist Tech: do i have to configure something in tintin to turn on mccp
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: its on by default... type compress to confirm if you'd like
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: probably not.  Log in and type 'compress'
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rockfist Tech: ok.. tintin working
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rockfist Tech: great. .. does tintin have keybinds nowadays?
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: you're probalby lookign for #macro
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rockfist Tech: no im not
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rockfist Tech: im looking for stuff to happen on certain keypress
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rockfist Tech: like when i press keypad up(8) i move north
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rockfist Tech: no need for pressint n + enter
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: cartman answered that
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rockfist Tech: as i understand macro is chain of commands?
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: #macro will execute 1 or more commands when you press the key you set it to... #macro 8 {north} would execute north if you press 8
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rockfist Tech: ok its macro.. but its not working.. at least not with this terminal
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rockfist Tech: cause it does not make difference between normal 8 and keyboard 8
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: pressing num8 should give you the correct value, not just '8'
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rockfist Tech: nope.. if i have numlock turned on it gives 8.. if i dont then it just scrolls one input line up
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Use umm... what's that prog... showkey, I think?
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rockfist Tech: well i can see
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rockfist Tech: my keyinput here too
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: i've used the alt key for most of my macros
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rockfist Tech: input isslash+E[A, when i enter it after macro it saves it but will not work
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rockfist Tech: hehe ok... this tintin works worse than my powwow :P
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik snickers softly.
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: after a whole 20 minutes of attempting to learn it...
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: used powow for mume?
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: TinyFugue seems to be regarded as a good client
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I still say you should just use the linux mccp proxy
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: with tt++ is there a way of displaying text only in a certain column of a line?
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: my tick counter's making my whole status bar flicker
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krax Tech: the best client for linux and mac osx is mudlet -> google
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: tf has the best scripting
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krax Tech: mudlet is much better than tf
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it supports most modern languages, like python, perl etc?
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krax Tech: mudlet support Lua
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: i've used python in some of my tt++ scripts
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Does TF support Python and Perl?
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: if you compile it with 'em
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Ah k :)
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rockfist Tech: ok i installed tinifigue... where can i get help about commands and such stuff?
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Right here.
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rockfist Tech: i mean.-. is there a helpfile or something
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Any tt++ people on for a quick question?
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: I can certainly try
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: I posted my sript portion i am trying to get to work, but so far nothing... http://pastebin.com/d3a9f6b7c
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: taking a look at it...
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: I am new to tt++, so i am not sure i used the correct syntaxes....
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: i've noticed a typo on line 15, the second %1 should be %2
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Anyone know how to play music from your computer into say a connection such as teamspeak, i can do it on xp but i can't seem to get it on vista..
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: put your mic to the speaker :P
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, vista's protecting copyrights again
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Other than that ;)
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: anyone know where i can buy the ends for laptop chargers?
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: how very strange
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i wish i knew why ie8 is studiously ignoring my .css
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: doesn't matter what size i set the text in a the style for this table, it ignores it
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: ok, managed to fix the weired behaviour, but still can't set my text size
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i can manipulate it by sticking <font> tags directly into the <td>'s but no .css seems to have given up on it
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: You using firebug?
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: no
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: ie
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: For debugging CSS issues, it's really worth it to install FF/Firebug.  It can show you all the CSS that's affecting an element.
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: doesn't help when i'm not using FF
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: farky, it's a web development tool, he's not just using slang for firefox...
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: so what does it stand for?
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: firebug is firebug
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://getfirebug.com/
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i'll give it a go if it can unravel the mess that css makes
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: should just tell css and standards to bugger off and just everyone go back to html 4
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You snicker softly.
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: expressions turns out to be arse-achingly poor, btw
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: handy, firebug is not compatible with firefox, apparently
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: go figure
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Yes it is. :P
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: Firebug 1.3.3 could not be installed because it is not compatible with Firefox 3.5
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: is what it says
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Weird, because I have it installed on FF3.5.
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Ah. I have 1.40b7 Firebug.
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: so, 'not the version immediately available on their webpage'
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Apparently not. I got it through the Add-ons for firefox.
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: found it
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Heh. It's listed there, Farkyss, right underneath the big 'Install Firebug 1.3' button.
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: (on the getfirebug.com
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nogs, not very clear though, all they need is to clarify that the advertised version is for 3.0 only :-)
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: but you're right, it does help you find things
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i have another query
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: why do pound signs created with the &pound directive display as a pound sign in ie, but as "&pound" in ff?
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dark Ryder Lupercus Tech: Anyone use the spellups plugin for mushclient?
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: two's complement anyone?  http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8152278.stm
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoranth Tech: anyone haev a good solution for converting VHS to dvd?
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: best solution is to just get the movie on dvd
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: next time dont spend so much on vhs pr0n.
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but for home movie stuff, either get one of those dual decks or use a service
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sieral Tech: What is it's a home movie?
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoranth Tech: I have this USB converter but I have to baby it to chapter it
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: It could be home movie porn...
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Heh. My stepfather-in-law has the equipment to convert vhs to dvd. :P
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: any video input on your computer can be used for it as well
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: im having difficulties my my kb every time i start to type it seems it has controll prepressed for each letter, which opens up a mess of windows
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: is there a hot key toggle or something i could have hit ?
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, the accessibility options
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dingaling Tech: might have toggled the windows sticky keys?
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: press the left shift key 5 times
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can turn off those hotkeys in the accessibility options control panel
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go into settings for each of the 3 keyboard ones, and uncheck "use shortcut"
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: ok checked all of those off but i still cant type on the kb
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: Using MUSH - Updated it the other day and ever since I cant use the kick skill. Says Target Variable is not Defined in a pop up warning window. Typing Kick <mobname> has no effect
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: any ideas?
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaelim Tech: You have an alias that uses the kick command?
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: negative
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaelim Tech: It's trying to process it somehow
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: so you type kick mob and you get the popup box?
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: or just kick
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaelim Tech: I can give you a brute force fix
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: and you're certain you do not have an aliases defined in mush
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: err alias for kick
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: positive, I am new at all this I only have like 4 aliases
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaelim Tech: You use any scripting in yours?
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're new, then you shouldn't be positive
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i have version 4.41 and my kick works find
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i have version 4.41 and my kick works fine*
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: ya I'm on 4.41 as well...dunno what couldda killed it
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GentooX . o O ( it must be a messed up script )
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "kic <target>"
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: disable your triggers/aliases and try
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaelim Tech: Something must be messed up. You could just disable scripting, or your triggers/aliases (it could be that, with one wrong checkbox/dropdown, you could be scripting stuff)
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: typing kic instead of kick worked. thank you
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you do have an alias for kick
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: sounds like you have an alias that matches "kick"
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaelim Tech: You have to have something
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to game -> trace...then type kick <target>, see what shows up in yellow
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then go to game -> trace again to turn tracing off
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: I am looking right at my aliases, none are named kick and none even have the kick skill in them
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: k, I will do that after I get my body :P too much typing not enough potions
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: one thing that's semi-annoying with MUSH is that it only shows you the aliases & stuff for the front-most world, but it makes every window its own world...
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you have TONS of aliases that aren't shown
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: plugin aliases are not shown too
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: hmm...TRACE: Matched alias "^(kick|punch|stab)"
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: dunno where that came from
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do you have a fight evaluator plugin?
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: no
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: well, I will track it down one day whem im bored but since kic works I wont lose sleep. Thanks again
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, no prob
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: you will have to type punc and sta too
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: well sta wont work
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, stab isn't even an Aard command
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: if this is being wined, just grep that in the plugin directory.  'egrep -e "\^\(kick\|punch\|stab\)" *.xml'  I don't really know how to deal with that in Windows.
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, egrep :P
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: windows box :(
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: egrep rules!
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: gnuwin32 has grep util
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: might be able to do a search containing.
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it does, it just doesn't exist without installing somethin
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, downloading, not necessarily installing
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: coreutils
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can just use the built-in find in windows
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: open up the plugins directory, do ctrl-f
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: search in windows is unreliable and they didnt fix it
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on which search you're using...
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i mean searching a text
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i mean searching a text in a file
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's multiple searching textin files...
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: search companion on a directory is fine for normal stuff
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for desktop search, it relies on the preindexing, which by default skips program files
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: can any1 point me to the rules on scripting, what is a bot etc?
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeppo Tech: type help bot
T1/r7/2009-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: or help policies7
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: iirc?
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: if I recall correctly
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: how do i see a list of imm?
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cobar Tech: Wizlist
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: anyone using MUSH 4.42 yet?
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: anyone?
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i am
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: did it mess with your settings on upgrade?
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: it should.  like first time install.  well only the coordinates of my worlds were messed other than that im fine
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: thankl you
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: I have a MUSHclient question.  When I try to search a buffer (ctl-F) I can only search for the FIRST occurence of something.  There must be some way to do "find next", but what is it?
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: crtl-shift-f
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: Thank you!
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: it's under the 'Display' menu.
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i wonder why velocity sensitive keyboards aren't more common
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: looks like it'd be a decent addition to gaming
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: too many people would throw them.
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: (not the music type, but for measuring input by force)
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i guess a keyboard driver could translate keystrokes to a game, not sure if there's an api for that though
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: does anyone know of a way to make any windows window stay "always on top" even if the window doesnt support it natively
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goatskill Tech: http://www.abstractpath.com/powermenu/
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: hope my "1" key is fixed just blew out the keyboard also took the bottom apart but that kinda didn't allow access to what i wanted   i think all the keys on a traditional keyboard popoff 
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: seems to have fixed it tho 
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: they do.  If you alphabetize somebody's keyboard, it feels funny though.
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: hehe or dvorak
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: just didn't want to break it but with the back off i did see that hte connection to the circuit board is still good so i think hair and other crap was stuck
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: the 1 key is at a corner so if you blow all the stuff out the middle it all clumps on the sides i'm guessing that's what happened
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: keyboards collect all sorts of funk
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: yeah just get worried when keys don't work but it was stuck in some way 
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i'm guessing hair was over the connector to the board so it'd block the entryway through the hole sometimes
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: if i pressed 1234 together it'd "unstuck" it
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: but it wasn't consistent either so i figured the diode is ok
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iceman Tech: i just installed zmud.. the text is not scrolling smoothly.. its like jumpy.. kinda.. anyone know a fix?
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: a faster pc or less triggers
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iceman Tech: hmmm
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Sometimes that because of unupdated video drivers
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: that is
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iceman Tech: i've got 3 warcraft windows open as well.. oops
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iceman Tech: lemme check
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iceman Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: anyone knows how to capture map to another window in cmud?
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Anyone using tintin++?
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I feel like testing the #chat function.
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Never mind. :P
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Any openSUSE users here know which package to download to play win32 codecs?
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: ok.... its been forever... in lua scripting for here... how do you access the local variables in a "Send()"? is it "   Send("get" . portal ." from " . generalbag)
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Overlord Xantcha Tech: lua concatenation is ..
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: get the "WinDoors" package
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: it installs alot of things specific to windows that you can use in linux...
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: it may be "WineDoors" not WinDoors
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Well, what if I don't want a whole bunch of libraries, I just want a codec?
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: variables within your function, you should be able to just do Send("get" .. portal)
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: A few codecs, that is, including mp3 and avi.
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: if its outside, you'll probably have to use GetVariable
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: well you can install the specific codex and plugins for your specific player.
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: so there are "."s?
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: .. to concat
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: so it would be Send("get " .. portal .. " from " .. generalbag)
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I don't know openSUSE too well... this would be Kaffeine, I think. Which would probably have a xine backend, I dunno.
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei nods at Dagas.
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: yep
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: thanks guys... i wrote all these scripts once... lost my computer in a lightning storm, and now have to totally redo everything
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: don't use kaf... use amarok if your in KDE... and use Banshee if your in Gnome
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I don't think amarok comes bundled with codecs, does it?
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: no, but I think VLC does
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: VLC has the codecs built in.
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Now I should have remembered that first ... but that isn't too open-sourcey to include all the codecs :P
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: shrug, it works :p
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I've never seen anything it wouldn't play.
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: anyone know of a decent spellup script for aard-mush other than the one on the website? that one doesn't work on linux for some reason
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: in cmud beta 3.08 i can't un-do not enter a room in the automapper...anyone else have this problem?
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: You have to be able to edit map properties, I believe. I've done it before, at any rate.
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: you mean be in map mode? i am
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Did you go to room properties and then untick the 'Do not enter'?
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: several times, with different rooms too
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: it won't save
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: i open properties, uncheck the do not enter box, then hit save...it seems to save and the box is unchecked, but the room stays x-ed, then i close and reopen the properties and it's rechecked
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Interesting. :\
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: doesn't happen for you?
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Nope. Just tried it, too.
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: odd...
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: any idea what could be causing it?
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: No idea whatsoever, honestly. Roomcost is 0?
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Try #CALL %maplocked(0)
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Then make the change again.
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: ah, there's the problem
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: checking do not enter sets the cost to enter to -1, but unchecking it doesnt reset
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: and apparently -1 means do not enter, so if you don't change that too it'll reset the do not enter
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: It never changed for me. :P
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: set a room to do not enter, close the properties and reopen
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: does it change the cost to -1?
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Nope.
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Myrmidon Myrkul goes, "Hmmmm."
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: well for me it does, and to un-do not enter i have to raise the cost :P
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immerez Tech: could anyone tell me how to capture more than one channel on ONE capture screen?
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: what client?
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immerez Tech: zmud 7.21
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Oh wait, I had to close out the room properties box for it to update.
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: #REGEX {^\{chan ch=(\w+)\}} {#SUB{};#CAP channels}
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: with channel tags on
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: so it does that for you charn?
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Yeah.
T1/r7/2009-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: k, i'll post to cmud forums
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hebe Tech: excuse me, may i ask how do i see my mini map in my screen i have to click page 2 to see it
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hebe Tech: is it the problem of my lappy being small ><
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: mush? change the size of the windows and stuff
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: on 1024 i got all the important stuff on it
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: anyone here familiar with sql queries
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: what kind of sql
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: mssql or mysql or oracle
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: hmm whatever zmud uses
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: for a room name Room (G) [**> PK <**], i can only search for it using Name LIKE %room%, but i can't search for it by Name=Room (G) [**> PK <**]
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: anyone knows why?
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: not escaped correctly?
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: what characters do i need to escape?
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: been a while, but pretty much all? :P
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: all the brackets and asterisks are search patterns
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: ok and how do i escape characters? i tried using the zmud escape character  but doesn't seem to work on the sqp string
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: ~[ escapes the bracket
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: iirc
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: and assuming zmud
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: nope i tried adding ~ to all special chars and doesn't work
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: #show %mapquery(Name='Room ~(G~) ~[~*~*~> PK ~<~*~*~]')
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: #show %mapquery(Name='Camp Room (G) [**> PK <**]')
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: anyone has a script to capture map to seperate window for zmud/cmud?
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immerez Tech: how do you re-run the auto-logon wizard in zmud? if you told it not to auto-sign in that is... how do you change that?
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immerez Tech: anyone know?
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: what is UPnP services?
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: is there anyway to make running without carriage breaks in between lines without using compact mode?
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: hmm how come zmud ignores (G) when i use %mapquery
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: quick question, hopefully, i need soemthing for my computer that every half hour an alarm goes off?
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iceman Tech: beep
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Happydog Madcatz Tech: You could set up probably set up something in your mud client, if it's for questing.
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: Windows? Task scheduler?
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: not for mud, i got that one. this is to help potty train the boy
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Happydog Madcatz Tech: Then nods, Windows Task Scheduler would be the easiest way without downloading a third-party app, probably.
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: ok where do i find that at?
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Happydog Madcatz Tech: xp?
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: yeah
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: Control Panel
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Happydog Madcatz Tech: start->programs->accessories->system tools
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Happydog Madcatz Tech: Or control panel, probably :P
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: ok the scheduler thing for windows, i'll have to set up like 24-36 alarms a day.. is there a easier way
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why would you need so many? why not an hourly one?
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: potty training
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you said you wanted every 1/2 hour...you can do that with a single command one
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: how, i didn't see that option, and it loads only programs, how do i get it to play a sound
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go into advanced settings...for the every 1/2 hour, click the schedule tab, click advanced...click "repeat task", every 30 minutes
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: all i see is "add scheduled task" no advanced settings option
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to get it to play a sound, ignore that it asks you to choose a program...you can type in anything you want it to do
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: click add scheduled task...select any program, you'll change that in a sec anyway...just keep clicking next/OK until the last screen...then check to open advanced
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make the schedule change I mentioned above
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: it's telling me i don't have permission..
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: how do u ppl parse the output when u where <mob>
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: stapleface, use an account with more privs
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then to get it to actually make the sound, you can use mplay32 /play /close c:\windows\media\chimes.wav
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: personally, I just look at the right-hand side and type in the directions to get there ;-)
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Heh... The Pirate Bay is now charging for torrents. 'Late last month, we told you that the recently acquired Pirate Bay may introduce a "compensation model". Now comes confirmation that the new owners, Swedish company Global Gaming Factory, will introduce paid subscriptions. Under the new management, all Pirate Bay users will have to pay a monthly fee to access the site. How much users will have to fork over hasn't been determined, but Bay executive Wayne Rosso says that "the more files people share, the lower it will be". ' -- via Lifehacker.com
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cridnek Tech: Hmm, sound like Napster? =)
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Napster wasn't a torrent site. ;)
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: It was originally, wasn't it?
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: But TPB was sued, so they have to compensate.
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so was napster ;-)
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: It may have been. I always saw it as just a plain p2p site. :P
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods at you in agreement. 
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: napster was what torrent sites would've been before torrent was invented
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Ah, nods.
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cridnek Tech: Offers similar service.
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: compensate for what? They made a lot of money...they just finally buckled under the pressure
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, they didn't make a lot of money
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: some ads cost 20k per day...ya they were broke
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If it was like Kazaa was, they probably made quite a bit from ads.
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: they were trying to buy an 'island' at one point which was valued at roughly 500million pounds
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus smirks.
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: that has little bearing on what they may have paid...butu still
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: So they could actually have a real landmark called "Pirate Bay"? :P
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, a bit unrealistic in your expectations of ad revenue
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cridnek Tech: hahaha, I wonder if that would've attracted the wrong kind of folks =)
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make sure the island isn't off somalia coast
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus chuckles politely.
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: I have zero expectations. However...if somebody is looking into buying an island/country...they are far beyond broke
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you also highly exagerate what they were looking into
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: oh really? http://www.thelocal.se/6076/20070112/
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, really...did you actually read the article?
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: good, then you saw that they had no intentions of paying to buy an island
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since they didn't have the money for it
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: According to Pirate Bay themselves, they were trying to raise about $2,000,000 to buy Sealand.
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: trying to raise
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: "If we do not get enough money required to buy the micronation of Sealand, we will try to buy another small island somwhere and claim it as our own country," the organization says on its website.
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, they started a campaign asking people to buy them an island
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that is FAR different than  them buying an island
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: whatever guy, I never said they had bought an Island. I said they tried to. Which they did. I also said anyone looking into buying an island is not broke. Which theyare not. 
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they didn't try to buy an island, they started a campaign to raise money...you were attempting to use that as a show that they had plenty of money...which wasn't the case
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Their webiste is estimated to be worth over $22 million
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: With daily ad revenues of about 30K
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: According to website outlook
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gotta love wild estimations
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: you are argiung semantics. You said yourself they tried to raise the money to buy an island, yet argue when I say they tried to buy an island...
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Yeah, but why pay fines with your own money when you can have someone else do it for you?
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if having a wish list and asking for money is trying to get it and a display that you've got plenty of money, then I officially solicit donations to my "Abe wants a malibu home" fund...and I guess that means that I'm suddenly rich :-)
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: So how do you know that they didn't have any money?
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm a bit more realistic in knowledge of what it costs to run sites, how much they realistically bring in using adclick-type revenue, and legal fees
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wouldn't say that they didn't have any money, but they weren't rolling in it to the extent that is being claimed here
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If they wanted to sell their company, they'd be rolling in money.
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they did sell their company
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: And they're getting probably 10M + in ad revenue a year
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: you may be, you also are argiung for the sake of trying to be right. Nobody said they were rolling in money (but broke they were not). Tjhe whole discussion started when Charneus said: But TPB was sued, so they have to compensate.
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: I am fairly sure they had the money to pay legal bills
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, the lawsuit cost them quite a bit
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: However as I said, they buckled undert he pressuer
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hell, they relocated to a totally different country twice
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: so they sold and cut their potential losses (and gains)
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: My parents did that too. :(
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, buckled under the pressure because they didn't have the kind of money you think they did
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they preferred to not be destitute
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: I am not disagreeing with the decision
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: Frankly I was suprised they held out as long as they did
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If they wanted to buy a $2M island, it's not going to be the price that's going to stop them.
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: anyone want to hazard a guess at why i can't access the documents and settings folder on this hard disk?
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I figured they'd go the distance. I guess I'm too idealistic.
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I guess you forget about "the cause" pretty quickly when the lawsuits start coming.
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: - h 5
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wasn't all that quickly
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: you can not fight gov't, they always win in the long run
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the lawsuits started coming a few years ago
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: What's it say when you try, Farkyss?
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: But they didn't start losing until pretty recently. ;)
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: access denied, leinei, and subinacl cannot change the owner on it
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it was also hidden until i unhid it
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Are you using an admin account?
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, dunno what your criteria for "start losing" would be, but having to relocate to a different country and resurrect the site after being raided wouldn't really be a winning position to me
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: yeah, lein
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you've run diskchecks & defrags?
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: yep
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: We're talking about TPB right? The people who just lost a huge lawsuit and are basically praying their appeal works?
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i thought initially that the idiots who own it might have encrypted it, but it doesn't have the standard encryption attribute
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes oby...they were losing for the last few years
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: normally shows blue in explorer if that's the case
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I'm not sure how you say that when it was relatively recently that they finally had a trial and lost.
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: They were raided in like 2006, and the trial just ended a few months ago.
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: they lost the day they started taunting the gov't and big business. Sometimes it just takes awhile for the pain to be actualized
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they were raided in 2006, shut down, moved to netherlands to be running at all, before moving back to sweden
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's not "winning"
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: But it's not losing until the judge drops the gavel.
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it's not lost...it's still losing
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: ...technically
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a game isn't over until the buzzer, but down 40 points is still down 40 points
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: You don't know you're down 40 points until the judge drops the gavel.
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes you do
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: ya...you do
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: wondering what on earth they've done to it
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Whatever.
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in 90% of court cases, yeah you do
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: which I dont really understand from an optimistic point of view...that judge had no business being involved in the trial
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: quote...the judge in the trial is a member of two pro-copyright groups, including one whose membership  includes entertainment industry representatives who argued in the case.
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You roll on the floor, laughing hysterically.
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's the best judge that money could buy
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: laffo
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Lots of judges are members of industry organizations for the sake of better understanding what it is they're ruling on.
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I'm more concerned about the legal ramifications of finding someone guilty of being an accessory to a crime that you cannot prove was committed.
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: so, anyone else got any ideas about this errant folder?
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mount it on a machine with lower OS
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: get what you need, then nuke-n-pave
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: seems like too much ickiness to want to salvage the current install
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: a 'lower os'? would mean window 2000, and i don't have access to that
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: and they're built on the same ntfs, so it ain't gonna make any difference
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, boot a knoppix liveCD :P
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: knoppix ntfs support is crap
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's more than you need
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're looking for read-only access for this
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: being built on ntfs isn't necessarily the important part...the OS security integrations with the ntfs isn't identical on win2k, xp, and vista
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: well like i said, i don't have access to a 2000 box
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have you tried accessing it as a secondary drive from another machine?
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or started in safe mode?
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: anyone knows how i can search my map db by zone name in zmud?
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it's on a secondary machine already since the original laptop is dead. I've tried it in normal mode, safe mode, direct, caddied
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i can't access the security information at all using native windows gui, and the command line tools can't access the folder
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Using mapquery and [ZoneID] Like '%zonename("whatever the area name is")
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: i want to search using my alias, and i don't want to have to enter the full area name just to search
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: i tried %mapquery("zone LIKE '%under%'") to find a zone called "The UnderDark"
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: doesn't work
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: A.) It's [ZoneID] LIKE ''. B.) Using my script, you should be able to use %under% to find it.
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: A.) It's [ZoneID] LIKE '%zonename("whatever")'. B.) Using my script, you should be able to use %under% to find it.
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Does anyone have a script to put campaign or gq targets in a status window?
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: What client?
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oby, client?
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Obyron: Fiendish does.
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: CMud/ZMud.
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: which script charneus? don't see any in the address in your finger
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Sorry, meant '%zonenum' not %zonename.
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Einstein: Let me rephrase. The snippet of the script I showed you already.
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: But here, I'll write it for you.
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: #ALIAS zonefind {#SHOW %mapquery([ZoneID] Like '%zonenum(%-1)')}
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: charneus, that alias only works if you feed it the full name you gave the zone
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: for a zone "The UnderDark", i tried using "under" and "%under" and can't get all my underdark rooms
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: %under% i mean
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Use %under%
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: yep i tried that
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: %under would match Thunder, under, Funder, adskfjaskdfunder, but not unders, thundered, or underdark
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: i tried using %under% that was typo
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus sits down and thinks deeply. 
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Under is a string. It's expecting a number for ZoneID.
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: No, it's not expecting a number.
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: That's the whole purpose of 'zonenum'
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I use it in my scripts with no problem. :P
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: the problem is with zonenum
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: apparently it will only do a perfect match
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: You can't do zonenum(%under%)...
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Ah, you're right. It does have to be exact. Bah.
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: only work around i can see is storing "under" into a variable and looping through all zones to find a match for under
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: How often do you need to get a list of every room in an area?
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: every cp and gq..
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Rooms are different than zones. :P
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus smirks.
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Why would you need to do it for every CP and GQ?
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: It's easier to run to the area and where the mob, or keep a database.
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: ah well thx anyway.. 
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Once you're in the area it's sufficient to do %mapquery( {[Name] LIKE '%whatever%' AND [ZONEID] LIKE '%zonenum()'})
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: nod i know.. was just trying to make an alias so i can save time search for zones while not having to type in full zone name
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Are you just trying to make a list of rooms so you can speedwalk them one after another?
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: nope
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Then what's the whole purpose of your script? :P
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: if Room Name Available: MF <No.> <Area> to search for Room
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: if room name is given for cp/gq i mean
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Then just search for the room name exactly.
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if room name is given, you should be wanting to search the entire database and have the database tell you the zone
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: %mapquery([Name] LIKE 'Exact String With No Matching Characters')
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: but different areas may have same room name for example
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: and also, i've been having a big problem with special characters
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you need it to tell you that
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Then you just need to know the MUD, like if you get Common Room or something.
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: You need to know which mobs are in Beer Goblins and which ones are in Underdark, for that example.
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it should return that "the study" is in these 5 areas (or whatever)
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: %mapquery(Name='The Grand City of Aylor (G)') returns nothing
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: %mapquery(Name LIKE '%The Grand City of Aylor%') returns the room vnum
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: why?
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is the (G) captured in your name of the room?
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: it is captured as "The Grand City of Aylor (G)"
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Because THere's a room called The Grand City of Aylor.
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: my zmud automapper is subbing the ~ in automatically
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Some of us call it recall. :P
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd probably need to have it automatically escape parenths and single quotes
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: i know abt single quotes, but how do i escape parantheses
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: perform a replace on ( with ~(
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but probably best to have your scripts not put the graffiti into the name of the room...since it's not part of the room's name
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: nod.. but i like to have it as some rooms have the (G) as markers, and the >PK< flag is usful
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm guessing there's some notes-ish thing where you can say whether it has graffiti, PK, CMAZE, etc
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: %mapquery(NAME='The Grand City of Aylor ~(G~)') returns nothing too..
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: {%mapquery( [Name] Like '%replace( %param( ), "'", "''")%')} *sigh* That'll do names with or without graffiti tags.
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: nod charneus it does, but i want to search specifically for the "Whitewind Avenue (G)", knowing that there are several other "Whitewind Avenue" with no graffiti
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: But cp and gq output are never going to say Whitewind Avenue (G)
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods at Obyron.
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: this is unrelated.. i just want to know if i can do a matching search like that
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you were originally asking about parsing "where" output and gq/cp output...
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: been trying to figure it out for days
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: If you just search for %Whitewind Avenue% and then have an alias to list the results, you can look at which one is stored as having (G) at the end and go to it specifically.
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: And Einstein, if you do Whitewind Avenue ~(G~), then it works.
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: %mapquery(NAME='The Grand City of Aylor (G)') returns nothing too..
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: sorry.. %mapquery(NAME LIKE 'The Grand City of Aylor ~(~G~)') 
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: First, you don't need to escape the G.
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Second, try putting the Name in []. (Like [Name]).
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: (Not the name of the room, but the query)
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: hmm.. still nothing
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: %mapquery([NAME] LIKE 'The Grand City of Aylor ~(G~)') 
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Are you typing '#SHOW' in front of it?
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: tried [name]= too
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus shrugs helplessly.
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Works for me, don't know why it doesn't work for you.
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: wierd.. are you using zmud 7.21
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lexapro Tech: can someone help me with the spell up installation
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: anyone know of a standalone hex editor I don't have to install to my comp ?
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amigan Tech: XVI32
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: oh yeah! forgot about that one, thanks
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I've got a pair of headphones that are USB-only. Are there converters which can be used to attach it using a regular headphone plug for use with, say, my iPod? Or are USB-only headphones just that, USB-only, no matter what?
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you can get a usb sound card that'll do the job
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: but tbh, cheaper to just replace the headphones
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: though I have never looked for one there seem to be USB converters for jst about everything
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I want to use them with my iPod. So I want a USB->"normal headphones/earphones plug".
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: oh, then no
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: definitely no
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Ah, horseflowers.
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: usb headphone sound is likely digital usb signal (nonsound) with conversion to sound in the headphones, regular headphone sound is amplitude modulation of the line voltage (which the pod supplies) -- converting line vooltage sound to a usb digital signal is more complex than the reverse
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: a new set of ipod-compatible headphones is likely cheaper than the (hypothetical, no market demand) converter
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: only trouble is ipod headphones tend to be those squitty in-ear ones
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: digital sound is crap, so squitty in-ear headphones seems appropriate
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: digital sound is fine
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: but a decent set of cans is a must
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wickedly Sharp Tech: how do I stop my map from popping up in cmud, it comes up everytime i move
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok heres an easy question.. in excel you can add two cells with "=SUM(C92:D92)"  how do you show the difference?
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: DIFF, iirc
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: two f's?  i'll try tat
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: nope
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: SUB?
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: =C92-D92
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i got this to work... "=C254-20"
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: of course it worked :-)
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iceman Tech: heyas.. anyone know a good source for zmud scripts?
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: I'm having a with tt++ functions, has anyone used them?
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silent Kalista Tech: Okay I just dragged my screen on mushclient and now I cant load the noral port up, as though Ive dragged tbhe screen away and wont open anymore. Any suggestions?
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silent Kalista Tech: Am logged on telnet atm as I cant see the screens anymore, but can hear the ding of the open screen timing out.
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: What process is xD66IU86 on Vista ?
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: Anyone have that ?
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i dont think thats a good process, try to check the executable by using process explorer
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: I don't have it, and nothing comes up on Google
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silent Kalista Tech: okay, so my open connect appear to the right side of the client instead of the left where it should be when I maxiized the screen, any idea on how to get it back to the left side?
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: what is open connect?
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silent Kalista Tech: open connection*
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silent Kalista Tech: i.e. this screen
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: which client?
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: Hey guys.  I just installed the spellups plugin for MUSH.  It's working, but I have no output window for it.  What am I supposed to do?
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silent Kalista Tech: Mushclient
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: where did you get the plugin vendek
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: From gammon.com.au
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: kalista, you can normally drag the different worlds to where you want it on mush
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: Do I need to open the Spellups world?
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: if its working, you dont have to, it doesnt need one
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: That's the opposite of what Gammon says.
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: the spellup plugin doesn't have it's own window
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silent Kalista Tech: this wont drag..
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: You also need a "dummy world file" for the spellups to appear in (a world which connects to IP address 0.0.0.0).
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: ^ from his post
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: right
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: error messages for something that needs a world is "xxx spellups.mcl can be opened"
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: if it aint broke, dont fix it
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: ATeam um...  Look at this: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=8780
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: i've used it before?
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: Right...  But we're missing out on a valuable feature.
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: which is?
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: eh? that feature only listed your affects
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: A handy window showing all your affects, their time remaining, and colour coded them.
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: and you can see it using saff or aff
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: I always run out of water breathing before I check saf...
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: and with spells you dont have to care if about the time remaining cause it auto cast your spells
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: OK.  Well, I am a bit perplexed why it doesn't work the way the author says, but if it doesn't matter...
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: Check with the author
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: Yeah, I suppose so.
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silent Kalista Tech: any other suggestions for getting my screen back where it ought to be?
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: kalista. unmaximize your client so you see every on your world including the titlebar
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silent Kalista Tech: it isnt maxiized, nods.
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: I solved it.
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nitrana Tech: Anyone fimiliar w/ zmud and making a flee trigger?
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: help wimpy
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: does tinyfugue have mccp by default?
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tf5 has it enabled by default, tf4 must be compiled with support
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: where i can find tinyfugue scripts for aardwolf that i can play with, i tried to search the net by its mostly outdated.  perhaps a spellup script for starters in tf like me. *chuckles*
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zabs Tech: So just downloaded the Arrd Mush Client, Anyone able to help me change the font <im blind cant read this screen heh>
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger me, gentoox :P
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: zabs, game -> configure -> output
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: welcome me to the world of tiny fugue
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm almost ready with a new spellup script...the one I currently have posted was made about 5 years ago & updated for current MUD output...the new one being spelltags-based
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: wow cool
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: tf is great! i can just putty to weee
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: to it!
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, that's what I do
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zabs Tech: Another client related question, Big map seems an empty tab, whats it's purpose? <new to the game not just client>
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'll populate once you go to the continents
T1/r7/2009-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zabs Tech: Appreciate it :) this client is pretty amazing
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: can i use other scripting languages to work with tinyfugue?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: how do i add room scripts to a room? is it in the Script Parameters box?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: zmud 7.21
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: ithil around?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cridnek Tech: Any1 here on Mac?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cridnek Tech: ..no1 on here uses mac osx?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: in mush how do i use a variable in an alias
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: blah @my_var
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: check expand variables box also
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: can i send directly to world without script?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: awesome hope this works will make it easy to not screw up my weapons/portal
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: cool that went exactly as planned thanks
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: np
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: how do i make help files appear in the main box?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: grr
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: any zmud mappers here?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: is there a way to interface tinyfugue with sqlite?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: anyone around?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: yes?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: need some help with zmud mapper
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: not me :)
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: heh ok
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: Don't bother with it. :P
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: is there a channel logger for mushclient?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: i think this is the closest
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: no but there is a world logger
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Tintin++ string formatting help needed :( I can't pad my variable.
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: tissuepaper!
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: world? as in all output?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yeah, I'm guessing that's it.
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: ozzy right click on the world you like to log then check log session
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: world as in each of your tabs
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i aint using.. for a friend.. right click the world? like the main window?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: right click the chats window and click log session
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: if he is using the aardwolf client, he will have chats world
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: then follow what darkknowing said
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: folders compressed/archived by windows don't have problems swapping computers, do they?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: not if you can unzip them on new comp
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: they are simply "zip" files
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: wonder what did happen to this poxy folder then
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: depends
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what process would have made the documents and settings folder hidden, as well as completely unaccessable?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: virus?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: if those are document/media files they will be ok
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: empty folder
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's not empty, it's got some 30gb in it
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: so you want your new computer's document and settings folder to your old documents and settings folder?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well, not my pc, client's hard drive from their failed laptop
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: just i've never seen the folder hidden and not able to take ownership of before
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: yeah i agree
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: viral works
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: that is awkward
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: normally you just go into your security tab and replace the owner and permissions on it and away you go
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: but the security tab is missing on this folder, and the command line version can't touch it
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: are u logged into the owner/admin account?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: only other thing abnormal was the flags that active undelete seems to think are on it
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yes, trav
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: flags were HSPI, never seen the I before
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: none of the other folders have an P or I attribute, and i can't find anything anywhere that tells me what those are
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: so you want the new windows setup to accept a foreign documents and settings folder on face value as though in working order and fully compatible with the new windows regime
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: just want the documents out of it, not interested in anything else
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: P and I are the clues
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if one of those attributes stands for encrypted then they're screwed and it's their own stupid fault
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: attrib /?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: doesn't tell me
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what about disk compression
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: I stands for Indexed
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: were the documents diskcompressed on the old system
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ok, so the I is probably not an issue then
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what about P?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Protected?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: initially the attributes where HSPI, and obvious Hidden and System I could get rid of
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: protected by what?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: maybe it is encrypted then
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus shrugs helplessly.
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Just a guess, anyway.
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: protected from being stolen and accessed on another computer
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: in that case, they can go screw themselves for being such idiots
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: can you read the documents?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: zmud mapper question.. how come when i use the pause on room enter flag for a room, and my speedwalk passes through that room, then i #step after i'm done, the mapper assumes i am 1 step further along from that room than i really am? it breaks my whole speedwalk
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: any documents
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no, 0 byte folder, access denied
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: P stands for Pawn it
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Does this help: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=810881 ?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not a file permission issue, it'd be trivial if it were
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not to worry, i'll have to see if i can ressusitate their laptop long enough to get the stuff off
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what happens if the P flag is removed
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you can't remove it
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: no dosbased utilities to zap the flag, eh
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nope
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: P is sparse file
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: a who?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: fill us in: what's one of those?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i didn't think xp home had encryption tools built in, tbh, thought that was pro only
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: http://www.ss64.com/nt/attrib.html
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that doesn't sound right - if it were a sparse file, it wouldn't be blocking me from accessing it
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: or is that geek speak for "compressed"?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ok, what can be done about it
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa365564(VS.85).aspx
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vernis Tech: anyone here have use script for zmud  ? 
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: everyone please give thanks to Xerowald for buying my paper for 250,000
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vernis Tech: anyone here have use script for zmud  ? 
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: what paper?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: I'm really having trouble finding a tick timer, and have no idea how to make one... anyone can help?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: I'm using the aardmush client, I deleted the tick timer
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: its included in aardclient.
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: just download it again and get the file
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: anyone using qingy?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: buying TP tokens for 1M each ill buy 20. hurry!
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: any linux guru wanna educate me on framebuffers?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: hurrah, the first blown up pc of the summer season
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: wonder what it is in semiconductors that stinks so much when they get blown
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: off
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serenity Penthesilea Tech: just type tech to turn it off
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: yeah it was an accident lol
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: ohhhhhhhhhh
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: Anyone know if your able to keep a window on top in Mush?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: I got my chats in a sep window, I'd like to put it upper-right and make it stay on top
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: or is there a way to 'tab' to it?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: a hotkey or something for that window?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: anyone know a bit about the mechanics of tft monitors?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: how on earth does Vista manage to be so awfully slow at burning stuff to DVD?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: how aboot using a proper burning software?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: not my computer
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}October November Tech: vista loads too much into resident RAM, consequently all apps are slower. windows-7 is coming out at the end of the year
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i carry one around on a thumbdrive :)
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: tried copying same data to a thumbdrive, looks like taking 3 hours for that too
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: microsoft works hard at writing slower and slower software -- there likely is an incentive to programmers there
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: mediocresloth is name that was 'earned'
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it's not microsoft, it's vista
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: as a fun exercise, whenever microsoft comes out with a new version of a product, do a speed comparison of some program in the OS -- the later version is likely slower
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: supposedly not true with 7
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: those are rumours
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: 'what with new kernel and that'
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: NT6.1
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: scarey that it's only the third major rewrite since windows 3.1
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: win 7 is fine. been using it for a month now
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: still think they messed up with 7
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also, there's a whatchamacallit law for software - it get's twice as slow every year/1.5 years
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: should've been 3 versions, win 7 for 32bit netboots, win 7 home x64 and win 7 business x64
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: huh?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: windows 7 is what windows vista should have been
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}October November Tech: its basically the same OS without as much in resident RAM
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: should never have released it for commercial use on 32bit
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, you mean the 32 to 64 bit migration?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nods, it's now getting to the point where people are commonly hitting the 32bit barrier, should've migrated years ago
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: 64bit cpu architecture has been standard for years
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: so hence windows 7 should've been 64 bit only
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: should have been
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, but the developers are lazy
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what about all the customers with the 32 bit machines
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: no, its marketing
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it's not lazy, they did a 64bit edition
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: legacy is hard to get rid of
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: there is a lack of support for 64 bit drivers
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: what customers, xyliz?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i would not make 64-bit versions when 80% of my client use 32-bits
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: people with 32bit machines would have to spend more money upgrading their machines to and then buy 7 than they would just starting afresh
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: only to find it slow
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: why does the auction channel leave the item out of the sold line?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: it just says " SOLD to <name> for <price>"
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: get your fix here >> http://www.not-porn.com/Aardwolf
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: on MUSH? I wish I knew
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: myop, you have the same problem?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoogy Tech: i do too
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: on MUSHclient yep
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: argetlam, zoogy get your fix in here >> http://www.not-porn.com/Aardwolf
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: im not joking
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: its a trigger of some sort I used to it now
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: its a trigger of some sort I'm used to it now
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: chats has trouble redirecting if the statement starts with white letters
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: after i download new plugins (or replacements, rather) do i have to reboot mush?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: no, just reinstall the plugin
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: thanks gentoox, we'll see if it works now
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: is there anyway to turn off the "snap to" function of popup windows in zmud?>
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: booting zugg in the box
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: i can't put my fricking window where i want it because it tries to snap and become full screen
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: even though it was there 2 seconds ago
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: i move it down and voila the thing won't move back up
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: try the lock layout thing when you have them where you want them
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: anybody know topmudsites ip?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: Dns resolved www.topmudsites.com to 72.232.233.194
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: can I do triggers in mush?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: yes, game > configure > triggers
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Denglish Tech: How do I change the font in the windows of MUSHClient?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game -> configure -> output
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Denglish Tech: Thank you
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: where can i download the original mush bigmap plugin?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cridnek Tech: Any1 use mac osx?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i used it
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: but i'm recovering.
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cridnek Tech: hah
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cridnek Tech: I just bought 1st mac book pro
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cridnek Tech: Still getting used to this..
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cridnek Tech: Did you find any good mud clients that run on macs and support compression?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: the updatelocation function of my bigmap plugin isn't working
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: i downloaded the one off of not-porn.com
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: the verisign function of my visa card isn't working :(
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: reinstalled it
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: doesn't work
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i mean, your visa card
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: can anybody help?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: minimize it, resize it so its big enough to accommodate the map, then move to a diff area and back
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Might want to be more specific than "isn't working"...
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: nope
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: then take Leinei's advice and elaborate for us
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: Trigger function "updatelocation" not found or had a previous error.
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: there's a longer message when i first reinstall it
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: The "previous error" is probably the important one.
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: like, 20 lines long...
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: copy/paste it to tech forum if it's easiest.
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: posted...
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Happydog Madcatz Tech: Is this the MUSH version or the Zmud version?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: mush
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Happydog Madcatz Tech: Did you start with the Aardwolf version of MUSHclient or no?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: yup
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: i've had a problem with the auction system for a while, so yesterday i asked about it and they directed me to the not-porn.com/aardwolf site to redownload the chat and bigmap plugins
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Yep, because Fiendish fixed the chat bug that Aardwolf hasn't yet. :P
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: . o O (  ) Habasi is agreeing with that Charitable Charneus person again...
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: well, i dowloaded both of them
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: what's a good rss reader?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: FeedDemon.
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: my bigmap plugin worked before, but now it doesn't after i downloaded the one "without" bugs
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: in that case remove the one you recently DLed and all should be well ?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: i replaced the original :\
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: . o O (  ) Habasi slaps herself on the head and yells, "DOH!"
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: yeah, i fail...
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: so, is there any way that i can revert to my old version of the bigmap plugin?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Anyone any good with embedding #format in #action with tintin?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: what are you trying to do?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Berilac Tech: im having trouble with gammons spellup plugin...can someone help me
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Berilac Tech: is anyone on this channel?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: yes, your mother and the rest of us are on this channel
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Berilac Tech: sweetness...i need help setting up gammons spellup plugin
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you've read the whole page on gammon's site?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Berilac Tech: yes i have...still cant get it to work
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "tags on" and "tags spellups on", see if that fixes it
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Berilac Tech: nope...when i type 'spellup' or 'addother' i get a Alias Function not found
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: is the plugin loaded?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Berilac Tech: yep
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Ateam says Its TiMe FoR a FaTtY, bOoM bAtTy,BlUnT.
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: what do you get from spellup help
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to file -> plugins...ensure that it has "enabled" set to yes
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: it would have to be otherwise he wouldn't get that the function isn't there, he would get a mud-scide error
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Berilac Tech: i get the spellup menu
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: so spellup + whatever spell  is that the spellup you're using?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: goes in a separate window?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Berilac Tech: im trying to use addother to make a list of spells
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: addother? that's not a command in it
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Berilac Tech: it is on the menu im looking at
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: dunno which one you got i had one once that sounds familiar and all it did was blow up and break mush entirely lol
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Berilac Tech: i got the one that says spelluplua
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it's on the menu you're looking at, then you're not using gammon's spellups plugin
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Berilac Tech: what site can i go to..to get the acutal one then
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: hmm wish i could help ya i dunno have you opened the notepad of it?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gammon's is from http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=8780
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: works, abelinc!
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: thanks!
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gratz :-)
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Berilac Tech: okay...i had a different one
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: how would i echo something into my prompt?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: huh?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: If i have some variables saved, how would i get them to display in my prompt
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: substitution in your client
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Have a trigger to match on your prompt -- have the trigger gag your prompt, and display the new one that you want.
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: So, like abe said, sub it
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Yep
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: i've written a script for tt++ which uses python, i'm wondering what the best way to adapt it so it can be used with something like mushclient is
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: install python, since MUSHclient can use python
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: right, i was wondering if there could be a shortcut like making an executable, i want to do it for other people, in the end it might be easier to just write it out in another language
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, using nonstandard languages that don't ship with the client you're trying to write stuff for won't be portable to other people
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: yeah, i like python though :(
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then it's a choice ;-)
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: create a dll
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a dll is already what python is for mush
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but that would still require the other people to be using it
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and to know HOW to use it with MUSH
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: if wants his plugin to work anywhere, he should create it as a library.
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: i guess there's a bit of a learning curve but once i get passed that i can distribute all sorts of ones
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Candor Tech: Hi, could somebody tell me what I have to do to set up a colour trigger with Zmud?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: I want a trigger to re-enter 
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: re-enter what?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: I want a trigger to re-enter "spellup" if I lose concentration, I used "You lost your concentration while trying to cast" without quotes as the trigger and then resending spellup..doesnt seem to work though
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaelim Tech: Is there a period after 'trying to cast'?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: better to trigger on spelltags sfail
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: no period
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaelim Tech: In the mud itself?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: what is spelltags sfail? how do I use it?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: using MUSHclient
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why not use gammon's spellup script that already handles recasts?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: didn't know it existed
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: where do I find it?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "tech -h gammon"
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pretty much, for anything that you're going to want to make scripts, someone else has already packaged one up for you :-)
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: cooo..good to know
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetcuti Tech: this is really getting annoying. everytime i log out then log into the game i lose my aliases and font settings. any ideas why? i have checked for read only files. all are unckecked for that setting.
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you running vista?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetcuti Tech: no sir. xp home
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are you telling your client to save world?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetcuti Tech: no..am i suppose to be doing that?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetcuti Tech: did that...message says char is saved auto which i knew about
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: different clients deal with it differently...MUSH has a setting under game -> configure -> MUD name/IP address
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetcuti Tech: using zmud here
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: if you're using mush the world needs to be saved i belive
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: typing save is just your playerfile on Lasher's server, not saving in zmud
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: zmud does it when you exit
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: Zmud only saves if you have the option selected in your preferences.
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: #SAVE for aliases...
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetcuti Tech: right..i thought it auto saved but some reason it doesnt
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: Otherwise it won't.
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Settings... Save for fonts
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: normally it does
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: both zmud and MUSH have it as an option
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: unless you tell it to ask you
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: layout... save layout for screen positions
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetcuti Tech: ok let me check
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lo ozzy, haven't seen you in a while :-0
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err :-)
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: if you turn off autosave, it asks you on exit
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: but if you use the quit feature of zmud... all is saved for you
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetcuti Tech: hmm..thought i knew a bit about this zmud. lost as hell now lol going to settings i cant find the fonts
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: does the aard mush client come with a void trigger?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetcuti Tech: im on zmud...not aard mush
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: didnt say you were :P
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: how do I pass variable text to an alias, such as "debuff mobname" then use mobname variable value to pass to debuff spells?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: was my own tech question
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetcuti Tech: oh lol  sorry
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sieral Tech: goto view->preferences-> fonts
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: don't think so ozzy
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: #alias {debuff %0} {cast 'debuff' yourmom}
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: don't know what to say zet, sounds like the character isn't saving properly...
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: err cast 'debuff' %0
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: maybe try making a new one?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Candor Tech: Is anybody here good at making triggers for zmud?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetcuti Tech: Gonf..i have to do that everytime i log into game. fonts are set at lowest level. I have to change them back where I want them.
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: this was Vista Zet?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetcuti Tech: aight all..thanks anyways for the replies 
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetcuti Tech: no windows xp
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: this channel prolly can help you Candor... easier then tells
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: might wanna do a fresh reinstall Zet
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: def a wierd prob
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Zany lied Candor :P
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetcuti Tech: bleh..thought of that. just trying to figure it out w/o doing that :)
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zany Tech: Oh?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetcuti Tech: really though. thanks
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: delete the zmud.ini and try it again... or rename it
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: hmhm this alias isnt working, what am I doing wrong: alias in mush: ba %0  ,  content of alias ca ba %0
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: what are you trying to cast?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: tried ( )  around both and { } around both
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: use %1
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: its banshee wail
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: works with "ca ba mobname"
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: for the alias you want: ba *, in the contents c 'banshee wail' %1
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the top part, the alias should be "ba *"
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: aah
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but I wouldn't bother using a MUSH alias for that...use a MUDside alias
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just type "alias ba c 'banshee wail'"
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: awesome alias worked in MUSH, never knew there were mud level aliases, thanks a ton
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: basically, anything that doesn't need to do multiple commands or to make a decision can be a MUDside alias
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: and only 40 of them can be aliased
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: where can i read about tinyfugue/db connectivity?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Any clue why firefox would want to try to save an html file? Registry problems? Works fine in IExplore.
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: (Meaning I try to go to a site that ends in html, and instead of going to the site, it asks if I want to save it.)
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: uhh i forget the is it about:options?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: something strange happened to your firefox  could reinstall/delete the local settings for it
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: just to see if reinstall fixes it
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: does it happen on all html files? might be a missing <html> tag
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I might do that. Don't want to, but yeah. And it only does it for some sites. Earlier, while browsing a forum, it tried to save 'viewtopic.php' :P
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: hmmm it could be the site is written poorly
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: And it was a forum I frequent. Never had a problem until today.
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: did your firefox update?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Yeah. I think yesterday.
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: perhaps something to do with that
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: could try making a new profile that might resolve it
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: its kinda buried how to do that  its again in the local settings or something
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: "firefox -profilemanager"
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Yay. Let me uninstall/reinstall, then. :\
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: oh they did put in a switch thought it had to be enabled before it popped up everytime
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: make sure to delete your profile too
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: eh backup anything you want to keep tho i forget what's lost like bookmarks/history open tabs etc.
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: its been there since eternity
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods.
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: febe extension is a good way to back up those data
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods.
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Trying it now. :\
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus loves Revo Uninstaller.
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Bah. STILL did it.
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus gives up tonight.
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: in mush, to "escape" from the alias looking for a variable i use @?
T1/r7/2009-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: lol i think that gave me my answer
T1/r7/2009-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: does anyone know why zmud thinks i am 1 room further ahead than i actually am when i #pause in zmud 7.21 mapper then #step
T1/r7/2009-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: zmud has a psychic mapping interface.
T1/r7/2009-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: it stops me from reaching my actual destination is i keep banging into walls
T1/r7/2009-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: wow! is that a feature? or a bug
T1/r7/2009-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: bug
T1/r7/2009-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus sighs.
T1/r7/2009-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I give up. I swear it's something to do with registry, though, since Iexplorer decided to do the same thing just now.
T1/r7/2009-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowzero Tech: anyone on this channel?
T1/r7/2009-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: Turning ON the tech channel. Mon dieu. How'd I have this turned off...
T1/r7/2009-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowzero Tech: do you have sharptracker?
T1/r7/2009-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus sighs.
T1/r7/2009-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: make clean -> Makefile.inc:66: *** /lib/modules/2.6.22.18-co-0.7.3/build is missing. please set KERNALPATH. Stop. On the make KERNELPATH=, it returns .config does not exist. Ugh.
T1/r7/2009-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sieral Tech: anyone know of a ID script? something to send stats of an item to a channel to show items stats easily?
T1/r7/2009-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you can be as annoying as habasi & panzer? ugh :P
T1/r7/2009-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: there are several...  Of course it may help to say what client you are using.
T1/r7/2009-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: who are those guys ?
T1/r7/2009-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sieral Tech: zmud sorry
T1/r7/2009-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GentooX points excitedly at . o O (  ) Habasi!
T1/r7/2009-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: hey is cartman on?
T1/r7/2009-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's not listed as afk, try sending him a tell :-)
T1/r7/2009-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: i jsut did
T1/r7/2009-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: anyone here know of a good program to rip dvd movies into avi format?
T1/r7/2009-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Can anyone reccomend a good IM client for blackberry?
T1/r7/2009-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: anyone familiar with wp ecommerce?
T1/r7/2009-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: wondering aboot custom product info fields
T1/r7/2009-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Etadan Tech: hmm does anyone know what files autohunter needs to work properly/
T1/r7/2009-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Hey - in MUSHclient, anyone know if it's possible to access named wildcards without passing the wildcards to a separate script (i.e., if you're just using "Send to Script")?
T1/r7/2009-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: what are you trying to do?
T1/r7/2009-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Was mostly just going to be populating variables, I was just trying to avoid using %1-%9 and use named wildcards instead.  No worries if it's not possible.
T1/r7/2009-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: see the help for GetAliasWildcard, the example might be what you're looking for
T1/r7/2009-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: I know I could technically use GetTriggerWildcards(<trigger name>, <wildcard>), but I wasn't sure if there was a way to do it inside of the trigger itself.  I've tried using %<wildcard name>, wildcards.<wildcard name>, etc.
T1/r7/2009-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: in your alias, match make your wildcard something like this (?P<target>.*)
T1/r7/2009-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: then in the alias body, use %<target>
T1/r7/2009-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: That worked, awesome - thanks!
T1/r7/2009-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: html forms questions...any easy way to either (1) give a field 2 names, or (2) assign a value to one field from another?
T1/r7/2009-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so far it looks like we'll either have to use javascript (not too horrible, we're on coldfusion and using it all over for other stuff), or use layers and pretty much have 2 text boxes layered on top of each other invisibly
T1/r7/2009-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Cool. Via Lifehacker.com - "Have you ever wanted to save a segment of video from your favorite DVD for watching later without fast-forwarding all the way through the movie? VLC 1.0 adds a new "Record" feature to help you."
T1/r7/2009-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: "This isn't quite the same as ripping a DVD, which we've covered many times beforebut you could use it for that purpose if you wanted to, especially if you wanted to cut out the stuff at the beginning of a movie that isn't necessary. Readers should note that it doesn't seem to work with just any video, but we've successfully tested it with a number of DVDs and even AVI files that seemed to work without problems."
T1/r7/2009-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: That is neat
T1/r7/2009-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Don't DVDs already have chapters or scenes?
T1/r7/2009-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: especially if for some ungodly reason you use windows and are stuck with whatever ungodly video editing microsoft has left you with
T1/r7/2009-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods at Rathik.
T1/r7/2009-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: Yes, but instead of even opening the DVD file you can just play the clip -- only useful if a certain scene interests you
T1/r7/2009-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: The point is, though, that you could record a DVD playing and effectively save it to your hard drive. ;)
T1/r7/2009-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: ^^ and apparently that too ;)
T1/r7/2009-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: No need for DVD ripping tools. Record while you watch.
T1/r7/2009-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Oh, I see.
T1/r7/2009-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: one might be skeptical of the quality
T1/r7/2009-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Please don't turn into a Xyliz, Argot...
T1/r7/2009-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: xyl?
T1/r7/2009-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: I'll rename right away ;)
T1/r7/2009-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus snickers with Argot about their shared secret.
T1/r7/2009-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: If one is using the Windows 7 RC, will there be a seamless transition to a normal copy when it is released, or can we expect to reinstall from scratch again?
T1/r7/2009-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I'm hoping it's just a seamless upgrade instead of the bullcrap of 'We have to delete everything and install from scratch!'
T1/r7/2009-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: according to the ms website you'll have to do a clean install
T1/r7/2009-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DinoMilk Tech: Eh, at least it's a zippy install.
T1/r7/2009-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: That's only for the RC, though. Not sure if it mentions the actual release in March 2010.
T1/r7/2009-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: i take it zmud and vista don't get along too well?
T1/r7/2009-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: just loaded mud settings from work and it went crazy.
T1/r7/2009-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: They get along just fine.
T1/r7/2009-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: my window went white and my capture windows captured weird tags (not statmon)
T1/r7/2009-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sieral Tech: run it as admin for starters
T1/r7/2009-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: maybe they really did get corrupted in the 4 seconds it took to transfer it
T1/r7/2009-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Try running zMUD in XP mode, and run as admin.
T1/r7/2009-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: if i didn't run it as admin, i wouldn't be speaking w/you
T1/r7/2009-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: xp mode eh
T1/r7/2009-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: think that'll make it see the file as uncorrupted?
T1/r7/2009-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sieral Tech: actually i can run zmud not as admin, it just doesn't work right
T1/r7/2009-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: oh it wouldn't start it when i tried.  il'l give those a shot thx
T1/r7/2009-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Your files wouldn't be corrupted by Vista.
T1/r7/2009-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: stupidvista
T1/r7/2009-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: never thought they would charn
T1/r7/2009-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: but vista may have thought they were was my stipulation
T1/r7/2009-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: anywho cya thx
T1/r7/2009-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods.
T1/r7/2009-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sieral Tech: i disabled visual themes too, since it seemed to cause me issues too
T1/r7/2009-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: must've corrupted the .mud file during transfer onto drive :(
T1/r7/2009-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: oh well
T1/r7/2009-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: still got it burned to a CD at home!
T1/r7/2009-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: anyone know how to make custom M$ OS install disks ? I've found nLite but it appears to be only OS, update settings, and drivers. no support for other apps
T1/r7/2009-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: google slipstream
T1/r7/2009-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: so I guess I'm looking for a way to add apps as well
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: Can anyone tell me what the max ram support for XP SP3 is?
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Depends on the mobo
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: 32 or 64 bit =p
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: 32 or 64 bit?
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: 32
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: 4gb.
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: Home D:
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: 3.8 iirc
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Eh, depends what other peripherals you have installed
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: Daloran: In what sense?
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: 4gb is the total amount of adressable memory in a 32 bit OS, 
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: any idea why the zmud trigger '#IF ('%1'==_mob) {#PSUB {%ansi(red, bold)~[%ansi( white, bold)%1%ansi( red, bold)~]} %x1} {}' seems to be triggering on everything? it's just ignoring the IF condition
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sieral Tech: '%1'==_mob? is that _ meant to be there?
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: bleh, @q_mob
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: any idea?
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sieral Tech: what are you using?
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sieral Tech: zmud right?
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yup
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sieral Tech: what's the actual trigger?
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ^     - {~(Wounded~)|~(Wounded~) |}{~(H~)|~(Hidden~) |}{~(I~)|~(Invis~) |}{~(H~)|~(Hidden~) |}{~(T~)|~(Translucent~) |}{~(X~)|~(Marked~) |}{~(R~)|~(Red Aura~) |~(G~)|~(Golden Aura~) |}{~(W~)|~(White Aura~)|}{ |}(*)$
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: hmm, zany figured it out.. using " instead of ' seems to work for some strange reason
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sieral Tech: i think i got it
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sieral Tech: yeah
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why double the wounded & hidden just because of an optional space?
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it was a copied trigger, i didn't write it :p
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sieral Tech: also, why the { } around the ansi?
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: because zmud is space stupid?
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: dont blame zmud
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skinner Tech: anyone happen to have used access lately?
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skinner Tech: m$'s Access, i mean
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Squeeky Kroz Tech: has anyone had the same ip as ip address and default gateway? I see it like running in circles..
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: If you're connected without a router it shouldn't matter.
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Squeeky Kroz Tech: sad part is that the person didn't have a router before and now he does..
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not true oby, there's always a router in IP...but some non-IP network protocols don't need it
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but they only don't need it because that protocol isn't communicating beyond one other machine
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I meant a local router. If you're directly connected to your provider, it'll work everything out on its end, because your OS is smart enough to use whatever network connection is open to send your packets.
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're never leaving your own network it wouldn't be needed, but you also wouldn't be on the Internet
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're directly connected to your provider, you STILL need a gateway...it's just that they own that gateway
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the OS isn't smart enough to use whatever connection is open, unless it's told to
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: windows, unix/linux, MacOS...all require one to be given to the OS
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it may be given via dhcp, but it still must be given and explicitly known to the OS
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Squeeky Kroz Tech: so let's see what we have: in ipconfig he has the same ip at ip address and default gw. He's directly connected to the provider and can connect to the internet. If he plugs in a router with the same config he can't get on the internet (and no, no firewalls are active).
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Squeeky Kroz Tech: i'm thinking it might be a convention on his provider's side that gives him access on MAC address
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: some providers still use MAC filtering
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Squeeky Kroz Tech: can you emulate your mac address on a router ? as far as i know it can be done..
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can if the router supports it
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Squeeky Kroz Tech: k, thank you
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or just go through whatever process the provider needs to register that mac
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: question: if this person has no router shouldn't the default gateway be .1 and the ip be anything .1> ?
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: err greater than .1
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Squeeky Kroz Tech: it should but isn't
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's nothing special about .1 vs non-.1, it's just an easy to remember convention
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Squeeky Kroz Tech: it should be different
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: yeah, well in ipv4 it should generally be .1 unless someone fiddled with it
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not true habasi
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: how so ?
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: that's a convention not a regulation
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: IPv4 has nothing to do with it.
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: someone has always fiddled with it, since it's a manual setting
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: . o O (  ) Habasi goes, "Hmmmm."
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you set up a router, you give it whatever address you want, within the parameters that are appropriate
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: The IP of your default gateway is whatever the box's IP address is set to.
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: yeah, I was talking m,inus the router. was wondering how he got same ip and gateway addys
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: any address that is on the "local subnet" can be the router, and any address on the local subnet can be a host
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: try reseting the modem?
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: but if its not routed then its not on a local subnet, unless you mean the provider's ?
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Squeeky Kroz Tech: don't think he has a modem
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: some broadband modems are the things that register the MAC, instead of anything on the provider's end
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what type of service is he using?
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Squeeky Kroz Tech: asking :)
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Heh. Looking at a HDD monitor, found the health status of my HDD is 58.6%. *sigh*
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: health status? lol
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus snickers with The Ateam about their shared secret.
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: His hard drive has syph.
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Sad, but true! :P
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: is that like those spyware scanner popups you get saying you got hundreds of infections just so you click something to install spyware? :P
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: those apparently only show up for ppl without infections, I've never seen one
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: heh
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: The same program tells me my performace rating is 24.5%. :\
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus blinks innocently.
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: yeah, I've always thought of you as less than satisfactory too
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: NUB! said the . o O (  ) Habasi to the Charitable Charneus.
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: what kinda hdd you have?
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Hitachi for my main. Forgot what my second was.
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: nothing wrong with hitachi drives... it has a cache on it?
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Western Digital for my second. Hitach is 150GB, WDC is 80. :P
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods at The Ateam.
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: then i'd say that program you got is bunk
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Temperature: Value: 127 Max. Value: 200. Worst Value: 127. Threshold: 0.
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus smirks.
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Yeah. It's a program to manage some of the Windows 7 tweaks. Only reason I have it, really.
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Ateam goes ooOOooOOoo.
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: windows 7 as good if not better then xp?
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: In my opinion, yes.
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: nice
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: It's MUCH better than Vista, too.
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: yeah well vista is garbage
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: nodnod
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: are you sure it's garbage!?
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Windows 7 RC is free for now, until March 2010, when they release the actual product. :P
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: is windows 7 out?
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: ah
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: it looks like you're intent on calling vista garbage, are you sure you want to do that?
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: it sucks?
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetcuti Tech: like a hoover it does!
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wyverex wasn't defending it, he was making fun of it...
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: nodnod
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Wyverex: No no no. It's 'You don't have required permissions to access the Vista is Garbage command.'
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: wtf that command doesn't even EXIST in vista
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: yeah you can turn that crap off, but it's still a slow dog vs xp
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: 7 is pretty fast, too. I'm very pleased with it, overall.
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: yeah let's hope the retail version stays fast
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: is windows 7 to vista what xp is to ME?
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods at The Ateam.
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Yeah, Wyverex.
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: where can i download windows 7 free?
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: nice.  maybe next time they'll keep every other OS out of production :P
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Go to Microsoft's website, sign up.
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: The RC expires eventually though, doesn't it?
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Keep in mind that if you don't buy the retail version in March, your system will shut down every 2 hours of uptime.
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods at Obyron.
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: That's the March 2010 deadline.
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: then you just download the retail version *inno*
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: . o O (  ) Habasi exclaims "ARR!" and makes an intimidating face.
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Only thing that sucks about the RC version is it's not considered an upgrade, so it moves your old windows settings to Windows.old and you'll have to reinstall programs and registry keys again.
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I hope the retail version will be considered an upgrade.
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: i doubt it
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods.
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I don't see why they wouldn't?
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: They've always done upgrade versions.
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Yeah, except from beta to RC.
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Oh, I see what you mean, sorry.
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I thought you meant to vista, not from the RC to the retail.
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Ateam nods.
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I wonder if it's going to work that way, too. When I installed the betas, it acted like a clean install.
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: safer way to beta, from a q/a standpoint
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: won't know if bugs are because of cruft in old system or the product being tested
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: True, Abelinc.
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Windows 7 Ultimate is going to be about 220 (can reserve it now, but won't get charged until it's deleivered, yay!), but I forget how much Windows 7 Starter or Basic will be.
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: 220? lol
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Ah, here we go: Microsoft Windows 7 Upgrade Option Program for Retail Packaged Product 
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Specifically designated PCs that are pre-installed with Windows Vista Home Premium, Windows Vista Business, or Windows Vista Ultimate may qualify for an upgrade to the equivalent Windows 7 product. Similarly, in some markets, retail packaged Windows Vista software products (sold separately from PCs) may also qualify for an upgrade to the equivalent Windows 7 product. The upgrades will be provided to qualifying customers when the Windows 7 product becomes available on October 22, 2009.
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I forgot, Windows 7 retail is out in October, not March. March is the final month you can use RC before the shutdowns.
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Perverted Versace Tech: got a question, back in the V2 days I used to have a spw script, which used portals over spws if you had them...anyone know anything about a script like that
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: what cliemnt ?
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Perverted Versace Tech: zmud
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: zmud's mapper is capable of doing it
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Any tt++ users on?
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: yo
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaymez Tech: what is the address to spellup other for mushclient?
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not-porn.com/Aardwolf
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Use the search on www.mushclient.com
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaymez Tech: thanks. :)
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: read other than :P
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Perverted Versace Tech: anyone who knows if there's an updated version of danj's old spw script?
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Swalec has one for MUSH
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Perverted Versace Tech: using zmud
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: I have a question
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: Im wondering if there is a way to keep my laptop from shutting everything down when I close it? 
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: I still want to have to punch in my password etc. but i don't want the net to drop etc.
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to power options
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: click advanced
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: where would i find power options? control panel?
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: easy way there is right-click on your desktop, properties, screen saver, power option
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's also in control panels, yeah
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: there is only the option to "do nothing" or "standby" 
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: going into standby is what cuases everything to shut down
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: causes*
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tell it to do nothing
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: right but then it doesn't prompt you for a pword to use the computer
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then when you want to need to enter a password, use windows-l
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a shortcut to lock, without having to ctrl-alt-del to select lock
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: set your screensaver to prompt for password
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: thats pretty sweet
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: thanks :)
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, can use screensaver for that too, I usually get annoyed by that one ;-)
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velveeta Veata Tech: Heya. Anyone know how to reroute all chat from the main window to only post in the chat window for mush?
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type chats echo off
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velveeta Veata Tech: And if I did that, would I still be able to log chat?
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, that makes them only go to the chats window
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's actually explained on the aard webpages where you get the client ;-)
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velveeta Veata Tech: Thanks. :)
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velveeta Veata Tech: >.> I didn't get it off Aard. I got it off of the mushclient page.
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and in the helps for the chats plugin
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velveeta Veata Tech: Ah. Thanks. :)
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you got it from the MUSH page, then you don't have the chats plugin at all
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velveeta Veata Tech: I do so! I got the plugins from the mushclient page. :)
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the chats plugin (and a number of others) is just packaged with the installer on the aard site
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velveeta Veata Tech: I figure it'll be less confusing for me this way.
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velveeta Veata Tech: Thanks! :)
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it wouldn't
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: truly, you should install the one directly from aard, then you can install a newer one from gammon's site
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I have no clue what chats plugin you're running, gammon didn't put his on the mush site
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sieral Tech: anyone know where i can find atreidess's scripts for zmud?
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: What do you need?
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sieral Tech: nothing in particular i just remember he has some rather nice ones.. was trying to find it but can't
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: You won't find it online anywhere anymore, really.
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I could upload them on my site, though.
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sieral Tech: that would be nice :)
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: What clients does everyone here use?
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: I use aardmush currently, but I don't particularly like it.
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: probably zmud or mush
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: yeah i tried aardmush, didn't like it much either
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: I heard someone here was using mudmaster2k the other day, thought that was pretty neat.  Never could get a grip with that one myself.  How about wintin, tintin, or anything else?
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: I'm a big tintin++ fan
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: tf, the few the strange...
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: That's what Darkknowing was saying...  I'm thinking of making the switch, since I already know most of the scripting commands since zmud was based off of it.
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: if you're on windows, you'll want cygwin as well if you want to make system calls.
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: I'm on Ubuntu 9.04
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: get the beta, I tried TT++ before going with tinyfugue and there were some quirks from what I remember.
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lynel Tech: anybody on that knows C++ very well?
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: amarufox does, send him lots of tells about malloc
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: he'd love to explain it
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lynel Tech: im not gonna send a bunch of tell to harass people i will use the tech channel for my question =D
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: awww
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Why harass one people when you can get 20 at once!
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lynel Tech: exactly
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: no, when it comes to C++, amarufox is the best
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: What's cool is when it comes to giving out free tps, GentooX is the best!
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i dont have tps now though, you have to wait till i get one
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lynel Tech: i was just wondering if anyone knows how to change the text color line by line i cant use system because it changes all the text in the prompt window
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Which has nothing to do with $LANGUAGE, and everything to do with terminal capabilities   :p
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: depends on what you are trying to do, and where you are trying to do it
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lynel Tech: its a final and i am jsut trying to change it up a bit plain white looks horrible and the program is completely recursive which i realize after i had already coded it
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: so lynel, are you looking for a gui output? or a console output? which OS?
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lynel Tech: i am trying to do it in my battle class for damage dealt and recieved
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lynel Tech: console
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: and os?
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lynel Tech: win
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: compiler?
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lynel Tech: visual studio
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: Does anyone use Mozilla firefox? I've heard it causes memory leaks, anyone know if there's truth to that?
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: i use firefox...   it works fine... actually very nice
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Causes memory leaks?
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: OH NOES MY MEMORY IS LEAKING
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: It used to. I think they've cleaned it up quite a bit.
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: Yeah I use it too, but I've heard that if you leave it open all the time it'll cause memory leaks.
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yeah, it causes some memory leaks... I've had it use something like 1.5gb or ram =p
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I often come to my laptop after leaving ff running over night to find a pool of memory on the floor beside it.
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: some sites with errors in flash or java coding can do that
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Killing the process and restarting frees the ram up though - And using a tab manager that reopens the tabs when you closed it.. np.
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ah, dunnos. Seems to be in firefox, never had IE take that much ram
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: then again, ie would crash before it got that far
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: its not that rampant now, unlike in version 2
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: dunno, it still does it to me periodically as of 3.0.7, but its not the current release anymore, not bothered to update yet
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i heard porn does that...
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Eh, I wouldn't know
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lynel Tech: nope
T1/r7/2009-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lynel Tech: got it thanks so much GentooX
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: what is the noweb message?
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Unseen forces protect you from a blood-sucking leech's tangling web.
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: anyone finds cmud really laggy?
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Nope.
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Perverted Versace Tech: anyone who has an update version of danj's spw script to zmud?
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iceman Tech: geez i just installed zmud.. where can i pick up some nice scripts... pretty pleeez
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mjorinon Morinon Tech: /dev/null/
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: /dev/urandom probably has a script in there if you dig through enough of it...
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iceman Tech: will check thanks.
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mjorinon Morinon Tech: Like a bureau of monkeys with typewriters.
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: well, more like a bureau of infinite monkeys with cards marked with a '0' or '1', but you got the idea :)
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mjorinon Morinon Tech: 8 of those in a row are equivalent to a single monkey hitting a single key.
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mjorinon Morinon Tech: On a general note: IDL is highly annoying, and needs to be replaced with something better.
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: to have a serious answer, though...  Crimson's website has some scripts.  I don't use zmud, so I don't know how useful it is.
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Heh, Morinon... I read that as IRL
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mjorinon Morinon Tech: IRL too.
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mjorinon Morinon Tech: IDL is a language used extensively by astronomers.
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: IRL has been replaced with something better...  Aardwolf.
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mjorinon Morinon Tech: IMO, it rates right after fortran for annoyance factor.
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: everything is irl
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I liked Fortran.  Cobol annoyed me.
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mjorinon Morinon Tech: Fortran's okay, but our license is running out.
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mjorinon Morinon Tech: And half of our department still uses it.
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Time to learn Lisp
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon prods Mjorinon Morinon into action!
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mjorinon Morinon Tech: Meh, honestly, python seems to be the direction astronomy's going.
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: But there is no language more powerful than Lisp. nor will there ever be :)
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mjorinon Morinon Tech: Yes, but god never even got around to writing things in lisp
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: That's only because no one fully understands Lisp.
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Not really, Peloso.
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: It's not a difficult language.
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mjorinon Morinon Tech: Nah, it was really time constraints.
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mjorinon Morinon Tech: http://www.xkcd.com/224/
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: (defun answer (name) (format t "I hate this language, ~a" name))
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I think I remember enough of LISP for that to work.
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mjorinon Morinon Tech: I'm currently using an IDL program to figure out a star's spectral type. It's called Hammer.
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mjorinon Morinon Tech: I've made so many bad puns.
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: how come #addkey in cmud will auto sort the database var? if i #addkey 10 to a db var with 1-9 as keys.. 10 goes to position 1 of the db var instead of position 10
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: anyone ard?
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: yes??
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: active directory only comes with windows server right?
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: active directory only comes with windows server right?
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: anyone around using cmud?
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rampagne, correct, the ability to control an AD tree is a server feature
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: einstein, plenty of people use zmud, but sometimes quetsions can be answered even by people who don't use zmud ;-)
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: so when I connect a computer to my home network I log into a domain (which is my server)
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: this is a cmud related bug i think.. #addkey acts smart and helps me sort my input such that i can't get a database variable with a running listof numbers anymore
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: on the server i can modify taht computer rights and privs
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: einstein, the sorting you mentioned earlier is proper alphabetical sorting
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: nod.. zmud didn't have this feature for the #addkey though, it just added the next number to the database variable without helping me sort it
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there is probably a function to force zmud to consider a variable to be a number, or use #addkey 01, etc
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: ah adding 0 in front didn't work.. cmud puts 010 and 011 ahead of 001
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: hrm, my table rows were nicely striped on every other row, and now they're not
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: wtf?
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bah, stupid bloody ie8, it's a big piece of jizz
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: how can they claim it to be standards compliant when it can't even handle most basic, cloth-eared bit of .css?
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ie8 also seems to be randomly resizing tables for no readily apparent reason
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: could someone tell me a standards compliant way of making the background colour for every other row in a table a different colour?
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: in excel?
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: html
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it all went quiet :-*
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the .css snippet for the row i ahve that works with 7, is:
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: background-color:expression(rowIndex%2?(parentNode.parentNode.rowHighlightColor||"#eeeeee"):"")
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: don't work on 8 cos it's dumb
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: how do i get my moue to show on the screen in zmud?
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: an python programmers around?
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: I know python
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: uhh charmers? ooo tech rite nvm :(
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: SsssSSSSSsssss SsssssSSSSSSSssSSSSSS......
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Felt: Keep it English, please.
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus THWAPS Felt for being a moron.
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: sorry :)
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: err :(
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: i'm using python for my scripting, is there a way to keep the program running in the background so you don't have to execute it every time i run a command
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: sorry, that's not very clear at all
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Sorry, we don't bot here.
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Butisflika Tech: which client?
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: tt++
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Butisflika Tech: I don't know about tintin++ but I know in some other clients they use a callback mechanism to do exactly that
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Butisflika Tech: check if there's a notify command or sth like that maybe?
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: don't think there's a way with the client, but i should be able to do it from bash
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(VoDkA) Cirrus Tech: anyone use mushclient here?
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lots of people do
T1/r7/2009-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(VoDkA) Cirrus Tech: wondering if there is a mapper like zmud does :/
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gutwound Tech: can someone help me with mushclient's variable syntax?
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gutwound Tech: i'm trying to do something like "drop dagger" "sac dagger" with dagger being the variable
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: so what have you done so far?
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gutwound Tech: drop %1 on first line
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gutwound Tech: sac %1 on next line
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: and your alias is called <myaliasname> * right?
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gutwound Tech: i need the *   ?
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: yes, you have to pass your argument to your alias
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gutwound Tech: that worked. thanks
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: in cmud i have a var of value "03" but when i try to #echo the var it show "3", how do i keep the 0 as padding?
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Won't be able to do it, really, unless you do %if(@var<10,%concat("0",@var),@var)
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: ah ok thx charneus
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods.
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (VoDkA) Cirrus coughs loudly.
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(VoDkA) Cirrus Tech: can mush alias/trigs be imported by zmud?
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: different scripting languages...  some are not hard to convert.
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(VoDkA) Cirrus Tech: so it's possible?
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: I saw something about converting on MUSH forums
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(VoDkA) Cirrus Tech: ok thanks
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: hmm anyone around?
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you're einstein, you tell us
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what did you want, anyway?
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: some cmud help.. #show            doesn't take into account the space, but #show        is not valid
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: some cmud help.. #show %format("&-10s", ) doesn't take into account the space, but #show %format("&-10s"," ") is not valid
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i haven't familiarised myself with cmud yet, i'm afraid
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Babywolf Tech: bloody hell godaddy isn't a great site to use for the first certificate for a company :(
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: Orodwaith You got it on?
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orodwaith Tech: Aye
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: Well you know the buttons minimize, max/restore, and close, right?
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: I'm assuming Windows here. :)
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orodwaith Tech: Nice quess there, worked wonders
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vendek )
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vendek :)
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: Glad to help  ya.
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orodwaith Tech: Thanks
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: NP
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(VoDkA) Cirrus Tech: anyone uses mush?
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: I do
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mjorinon Morinon Tech: I do
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(VoDkA) Cirrus Tech: something is wrong, the auctions keep displaying " SOLD to Gunja for 200 gold." i cant see whats being sold
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: Um, I thought it was meant that way?
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mjorinon Morinon Tech: the music channel also simply appears without seeing who's on it.
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(VoDkA) Cirrus Tech: it's supposed to show "XXX is sold for XX"
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: Oh, well, then I have the same problem.
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(VoDkA) Cirrus Tech: but it doesnt show the first part
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(VoDkA) Cirrus Tech: just a blank to me
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: Same.
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (VoDkA) Cirrus :(
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mjorinon Morinon Tech: You can fix it, if you don't want to have a seperate chat window.
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: I want my separate chat window. :)
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mjorinon Morinon Tech: Same here, which is why I haven't fixed it.
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(VoDkA) Cirrus Tech: but then i dont see the item sold on the chat window either
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: Me either.
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(VoDkA) Cirrus Tech: so where did it go??
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mjorinon Morinon Tech: Yeah, but to fix it, you get nothing in the chat window.
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: Ether?
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (VoDkA) Cirrus walks around in the room, looking very confused.
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mjorinon Morinon Tech: to fix it, turn off channel tags
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mjorinon Morinon Tech: You do that via the tag command in aard
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: It doesn't bother me too much.  If I'm bidding on the item, I generally know what is going on.  If I'm not, I don't care.  But a fix would be nice if possible.
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mjorinon Morinon Tech: However, you then get no chat window
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mjorinon Morinon Tech: The choice is yours.
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(VoDkA) Cirrus Tech: what command again?
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: I'd rather have the chat window.
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mjorinon Morinon Tech: Cirrus: help tag
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(VoDkA) Cirrus Tech: oh ok nvm i saw
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mjorinon Morinon Tech: Actually, I never use my chat window.
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: I find it's great if I need to catch up a conversation.  No spam around all the msgs.
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mjorinon Morinon Tech: I find -h to be just as useful.
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: Granted.
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(VoDkA) Cirrus Tech: thanks for the help morinon
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: Yeah, thanks from me too. :)
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mjorinon Morinon Tech: np
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: is there a way to open the db window automatically every time i log in for cmud?
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: who can give me a bit of css that'll colour every other row in a table?
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I don't understand #help format in tt++ ... any idea how to embed #format in #action ?
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MizBiz Paramore Tech: anyone know how to write advanced excel formulas?
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: I used to
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MizBiz Paramore Tech: in this context the verb "know" in my query would mean still in the possession of the knowledge
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: With that asshattery the people who could help you will probably now ignore you.
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MizBiz Paramore Tech: I was referring to DK's comment, Daloran, someone you probably have ignored
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus snickers with MizBiz Paramore about their shared secret.
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I know who you were talking to, and I don't have him ignored.
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: Can anyone e-mail or tell me here cause it might be simple. I'm running Mush CLient, I want  it to send the command 'spellup' every 5 minutes, is that possible?
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: game > config > timer
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fibo...MUCH better to run the spellup script that Gammon wrote
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Just click add, then choose to send spellup at 5 min intervals
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: I have been, but it started acting weird
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: it would cast every spell twice
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Any tt++ users on today?
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: what?
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: responding to darkknowing
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: When i left click to paste how do i keep it from auto-sending?
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: dont copy the carriage return
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Thanks
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: brb
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: how do i change font size on mud text in mush
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game -> configure -> output
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: thanks so much better
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: does anyone know of a font size/font that is about size 14 that doenst make thing like score look all jagged
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: any font that is "monospaced" will work
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: new courier
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Real Heafmo Tech: i like system but i use a smaller font size than that
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: things named mono, system, and terminal will generally be mono
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: i have a 32" monitor and fixed was making me blind
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Anyone around that can help me with an html question?
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: <A HREF> 
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Holy Crap!!  Stick it Inicus just kicked VampireDude right in the box!
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: how do i skip over dot files in a while loop (pearl)  oh and .. files as well ?
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I don't think that I understand the question, but perhaps: if (file_name == "." || file_name == "..") continue; ?
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seregil Tech: what's up when you can mud but you can't browse?
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seregil Tech: using mushclient, to mud that is
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: i have like:  while ($name = readdir dirname { next unless $name =~\/.pm$\;
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: DNS problems, maybe, Seregil.
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Or cache problems.
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: something that has to do with ports too
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Or less distractions. ;)
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: heh
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus snickers with Rathik about their shared secret.
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: perhaps i should use next if along with rathiks suggestion.. will try that
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seregil Tech: I'm a tech idiot that's why I always ask you all.  So should I just leave it alone or do something simple to it...some trick you all know that I don't
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Try going to Start->Run, cmd, then type ipconfig /flushdns
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: try ping 74.125.67.100
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: thanks rath also had  forward and backslashes backwards.. *mutter
T1/r7/2009-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I'm glad it helped
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowzero Tech: anyone on this channel using mushclient?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: Me.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowzero Tech: do you know a thing or two about aliases?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: Sorry, I thought I replied.  Yes.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I love people who ask 20 questions before they get to their actual question.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vendek laughs at Blessed Balaam mercilessly.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: Maybe that was the question?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowzero Tech: how do i set an alias for commands with a target? e.g. runto <area>, i want to make it so i want to type 'r' <area>
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: Click on the icon in the toolbar that looks like an 'a'.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: Click Add...
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: Enter 'r' as the 'Alias' and the command in the window below.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: Oh.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: Sorry, I'm tired.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: I use regex.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: So like this for r:
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: look at the help menu in the alias dialog
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: ^r(?:(\s+(.+))$
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: there is an example for aliases that shows near exactly what you are trying to do.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: Which means r, optionally followed by one or more spaces and one or more other chars.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowzero Tech: ok i'll have a read, thanks =)
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: such complex alias!
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: Then the command would be, say, 'rescue %1'
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: erm...  I believe the easier thing to do is...    'r *'  and 'runto %1'
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: LOL
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: I'm a programmer, so saw regex and just did it. LOL
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: fun spoiler hehe
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: Does r * require r <something>?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: does it work on 'r' by itself?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: it require something
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: I have alias that sometimes have arguments and sometimes don't.  So my regex works better for me. :)
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: coz the space after r is matched
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: For example, I alias 'cha' as "cast 'holy arrow'" and want to be able to cast without an argument when I'm fighting a mob
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: And the regex only LOOKS complicated. ;)
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I need help with regexps in tintin++, specifically I'm not sure how to #format within an #action.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: mud side alias can do that too vendek
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: adding extra regex is needlessly complicated when someone is just starting.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: Yes, you're right, but the limit is 40, no?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: alias cha cast 'holy arrow'
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: I currently have 41 alias. :)
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: yes its 40
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: bummer
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: Eh.  Doesn't bother me any. :)
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowzero Tech: what do you use all those aliasa for?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: and i believe you dont use them in one battle
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: I use the 'alias' command on the MUD for temporary ones.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: I alias all my spells.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: cxx
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Babywolf Tech: i also alias all my spells and skills
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: but some spells gets replaced when you level
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: I don't deny it. :)
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: I don't USE all my aliases.  But I have them.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Babywolf Tech: same here vendek
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: Besides, when I remort, I will want those aliases again.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: that should just be one alias.  "c[a-z]{1,2}" and then a nice hash table.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: Balaam That's elegant.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: only have to alias the latest of any given damtype...
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: well, "^c[a-z]{1,2}$"
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: alias c cast 'cure light'  << mud side  >>  level60 .... alias c 'cast heal' .... << client side
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: Until I remort.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowzero Tech: im using macros for my skills/spells right now
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: balaam, the $would screw you
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: It'd prevent adding a target.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: ill just have to do c everytime i heal regardless of level
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: To each his own.  I see the benefit of your way and of mine. :)
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: it matches Vendek's requirements.  Vendek Tech: For example, I alias 'cha' as "cast 'holy arrow'" and want to be able to cast without an argument when I'm fighting a mob
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: I only have to create each alias once, so it's not that onerous.  I don't get many spells thes days anyhoo.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: Right, but I want to cast WITH an argument when I'm not fighting.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowzero Tech: is there a way to open doors without typing 'o <direction>'?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no belaam, it doesn't if you read the entire question
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: hence my regex.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: yes there is
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: fine. "^c[a-z]{1,2}(\s+[^ ])$"
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: I like your idea of relating the two char abbreviation to a table, but it's not obvious how to persuade MUSHClient to do that. :)
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Lua is the default scripting language.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Lua is fantastic.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: How would I send the captured group to the script?  I thought there were strictly set arguments.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Is it possible to limit the width of output in tintin++ so that I can have, say, a 40-character column of whitespace on the right which I can use for simulated windows? :P Or just pass output there.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: vandek through ()
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: What, like 'script_function(%1)'?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: your script by default accepts 3 paraments (name of the script, line matching regex, array of captured groups)
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: Ah.  That's easy then. :)
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: very
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: Thank you!
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: you're welcome
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: What makes Lua wonderful?  I have never used it.  I have done some scripting with MUSH, but I justed Javascript since it's not obvious to me how to get Python to work.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: oh, bugger. "^c([a-z]){1,2}(\s+[^ ])$"  make a table like spells = { ["ha"] = 'holy arrow', ["cl"] = 'cause light' }  then call it with send( "cast '"..(spells[wildcards[1]] or "" ).."'"..( wildcards[2] or "" ) )
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: justed = just used
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: you can also serialize your variable so your aliases can be loaded at login
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Lua is fast, light, and has more functions built in for MUSHclient, since it does not go through Windows Script Host.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: By which I guess you mean Python needs to go through Windows Script Host?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: yep
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: I'm not sure.  I remember looking at it, but some reason MUSH would not initialize Python properly.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: I searched around and got the impression I needed to add an extension for COM.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: It was easy enough to just do what I wanted with JS. :)
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I got python working after kicking it in the head for a few weeks a while back.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: LOL
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: its a pain in the ass, lua can do everything python can do
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: getting Jscript to run through wine took for friggin ever too.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: well, everything for mud purposes.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: I was about to ask. :)
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GentooX )
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: I've been thinking I should learn Lua so I can help out around here. :)
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: pyheads have made python libraries for everything under the sun.  And some stuff above for astronomy.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: Yeah, Python is quite robust.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GentooX agrees!
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: A lot of people suggested that once you try Python you fall in love.  I didn't really understand how that was so, so I tried it.  Now I just wish it was more suited to Web programming so I could throw PHP out the window and never look at it again.  :(
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: You can actually throw PHP out the window.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Once you try python, you will either love it or hate it.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: Well, there are hosting issues, unfortunately.  PHP hosting = cheap.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: There is that.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: pfft...  Ruby on rails.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: well, Lua on rails, for that matter.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Babywolf Tech: perl all the way
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien flashes a mischievous grin at Babywolf.  Hmm. is it time to run and hide?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I was waiting for that.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I get enough perl at work, thank you very much.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: What do you do, Bal?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Babywolf Tech: i'm in the process of learning perl, but i like it so far.. i'm a network guy myself
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I'm supposed to learn perl and python, heh. Keep putting everything off.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I is in ur email survurs blockin ur spam
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: LOL
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Babywolf Tech: what product?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: CAN I HAS FIEV NINES?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: wonder when Apple are going to release an OS for consumer use
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Blessed Balaam peers intently at Tigernuts.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: That sounds like debate. :)
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Mac OS 7.5 is free now I think?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: OS 7.5 doesn't install on any pc though
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: It's not engineered to.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Isn't that what hackintosh is for?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: exactly
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Hm. I think through MacOnStick you can get that working.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Tigernuts, now you're just being picky
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: hence i'm wondering when they're going to release a mainstream os
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Just grab the nearest PowerPC...
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I doubt they will
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Umm...  buy a Mac, get their OS?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nogs, with control over the hardware, they can control prices
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: No thanks. :)
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Why Mac when you can Linux? :P
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: or wait for Google to release their OS so that they can archive your computer.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: They can also torture people!
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you know, balaam, if Microsoft did that, there'd be lawsuits
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: Linux: there's a consumer OS. :)
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i sense abelinc coming
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yup, it consumes its users :P
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: LOL
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nogs, linux is a not-very-good consumer os
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I've been slowly digesting in the bowels of Linux since 2005.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: SARLAC PIT
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: You're right Tiger...  it's hard to have a 'consumer' when they aren't paying for anything.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nogs, balaam, also just isn't very good
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: Well, I think in this case we're talking about an OS that is directly accessible to a typical end-user.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: I disagree there.  Linux is good.  I just wouldn't give it to my grandma.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Consumer is consumer, regardless of whether you're paying for it :)
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nogs, vendek
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Depends on perspective.  I use both Linux and Windows.  I'm happy with both for varying reasons.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Vendek: just set up a remote assistance link and offer to help.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: if linux is your first OS, youd think otherwise
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: I dunno on that tigernuts, they support more hardware than Microserf for 64bit :P
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: I'm not going by just Vista as you might claim teething... but as annoyed owner of WinXP x64 that went thru all the real soon now BS
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: a lot of this is about "who's more used to what"
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm glad it's not my first OS, none of my games would work
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: I don't WANT to have to help people with their comps all the time.  Enough of that already.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: But, but, it's your grandmother!
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Umm...  you can mud on any OS.  What more do you need?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: Creepy, since she's dead. ;)
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: Balaam wins!
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: have to agree with timeghost
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Oh, was that why you wouldn't give her Linux?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i need my steam client and all my games to work too, balaam
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Eve online, clearly. 
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: Trurien LOL
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: However, it runs under linux under wine =p
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: wine is shite
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I believe Microsoft Windows would be more suited to her case.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: steam client?  You have a steam powered computer?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: LOL
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Steampunk!
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Babywolf Tech: steam as in valve as in CS:S and cs kid
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I don't think counter strike is for kids..
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and painkiller, and bioshock, and hl2, and peggle
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Don't forget audiosurf =)
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Searon Tech: and tf2! don't forget tf2!
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I'll just be happy when I can run CivIV under wine
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: then it will be on every computer I own.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: I'm more of a EU3 guy.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and it needs to run visio 
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Babywolf Tech: i'll be happy when citrix fix the keyboard input from a OSX into XP using their xendesktop
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i just need to mud
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Oh, Visio? What's that for? I never used it, personally.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: Diagramming
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Babywolf Tech: visio is great
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Searon Tech: visio is really nice, easy to use ;) bloody ms
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ITS FOR PLANNING OUT THE TUBES FOR THE NEXT WAVE OF INTERWEB UPGRADEZ
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Ah, I see... charts and mindmaps and stuff?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: until excel and word 2007, was the finest part of ms office
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I can't wait for Al Gore to invent a new Intarwebs.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Searon Tech: and more, you can do database diagrams, flow charts, etc etc, really good if you are into informatics/IS
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Hm, are there free alternatives to Visio that go anywhere near that?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: Al Gore is a flid
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: Yes, but they're not as good.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I hear there's SmartDraw, and I used Umbrello for a little while, though for different purposes.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: Oh, wait, you said free.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: SmartDraw isn't free.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Oh, is it?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I'm just throwing out names, sorry :P
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Google has something now..  I forget what its called.. Google Spaces? or something..
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Searon Tech: there are free, but visio has a lot of different types, you can do UML diagrams and then if you don't like any of the preset you can just draw your own boxes and lines
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yeah, I mentioned Umbrello, I used that for UML when I needed it for one semester.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: smartdraw is poor in comparison. Visio is actually very very good
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Searon Tech: nod, I use visio now because I study so many different kinds of models, no fun switching programs every time ;)
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: SmartDraw is poor, agreed.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: How so, Tigernuts?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Searon: Ah, I see.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: People are arguing about flowcharts here...  I'm going back to disabling Windows services that M$ decided were a good idea to automatically enable at some point in time.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: So I'm guessing Visio covers many bases? You can use it for a lot of stuff?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Babywolf Tech: Balaam, nothing beats a good lockdown of windows OS
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Searon Tech: yeah it does, which is why I say bloody ms ;) they actually made a decent program :P
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Babywolf Tech: atleast it's better in win2008
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Sorry, sketchup was the google app i was looking for
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: which is not quite what I thought it was, though shares a bit of visios functions
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: Yeah, sketchup is more a 3d modelling software, no?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Oh, they have that as one of the Google Apps?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I'd never dealt with sketchup, brief blurb i read months ago i thought it was similar to visio
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: http://sketchup.google.com/
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: any free ERD tool you can recommend?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: wonder when we're going to start seeing sub 1kg netbook/tablet combos
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: so basically true maxed is better than over maxed?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: eh what do you mean "true maxed"?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: no, the definition has never been clear
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: sorry wrong channel
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: My god, this lame conversation is spilling over on every channel it doesn't belong on. :P
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: LOL
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: how do you make a variable execute an alias
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: What client?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: zmud
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: i am trying to do a speedwalk variable put it does not udnerstand that my alias in it is an alias
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a variable doesn't "do" anything...
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a variable is a placeholder
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: i know that but there is not a way to have it pull that alias name and execute it
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: pull the nanem and have my alias execute that alias
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: point taken
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mis?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: how do tell an alias that %1 can only be one thing or else it will not execute?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: What client?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: zmud
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: #IF (%1 whatever) {do stuff}
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, in proper clients, %1 is only one thing :P
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: anyone can recommand a really good bluetooth stereo headset?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I don't think he was speaking precisely.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: %1 arg1, %2 arg2, %3 arg3
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: iw il ltry that out, thank you
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: What do you want  to be?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Err, %1
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: no, ablinc what i was saying is if %1=x then do this else if %1= anything else then abort
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Abelinc, I don't think he's referring to it specifically being one word.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gotcha :-)
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: oh sorry for interupting conversation tech is off most of the time:P
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then yeah, an if
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: guala, multiple conversations are allowed :-)
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: The Zmud help topic for "Expressions" is a good one. You can do a lot of different things.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: haha:P well none has an advice for me i guess so far:P
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: another tech question actually maybe someone knows... if there is a sound delay from bluetooth headset, is that the problem of the source or the headset?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: yeah a slight delay, maybe half-sec to a second for me
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: is that caused by the source transmitting or the headset receiving... if it's the source a new bluetooth headset will hardly do a thing:D
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: usualy its the transmitting power but honestly you ahve to give us your phone and you bluetooth
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: since some phones are better then others
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: and some bluetooth is better then others
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: actually transmitting thing is a LG scarlet, receiving is sennheiser mm200 headset
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: bluetooth refering to the handfree device
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: lg scarlet tv
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: just get 3.5mm headset won't work cause for some reason it's not on this tv haha
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: so you're using a bluetooth headset to listen to the tv?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: or it's just so well hidden i can't find it
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: its a tv?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: yeah it's a tv
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: is it better when you get closer to the tv?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: never tried actualy but i'm never more then 2m away from tv
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: so i don't think that will matter alot
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: its the head set so far from what i can see
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: every bluetooth headset has a delay
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: some are 2 second delays so well jsut be lucky yours is .5
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: so any recommendation for a headset with minimal delay? anything up to 200usd is acceptable
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: so far the one you have seems to be the best for the money
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: btw why are you listening to the tv with headphones?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: it's a real good headset no questions about it i like it alot
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: family sleeping:D
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: when used for music/calling:P
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: ahh well to get ird of the delay you need to go non transmition
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: ehhh?:P
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: no bluetooth or radio frequencies 
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: direct line :P
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: tv has no headphone output...
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: then live with the delay
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Butisflika Tech: but it does have bluetooth??
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: yeah, hehe strange tv eh
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we loved the Kyocera TXCKT10160 but it's long since disc'd
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Butisflika Tech: are you sure it doesn't have some other kind of audio output that you could convert?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: o well to bad then, just slight out of sinc doesn't botter me that much, but if i could improve it would be better
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: has digital audio output
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: got a receiver that you can use as an expensive DA-to-headset converter? ;-)
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: not yet:d
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: actually is here anyone that owns a LG scarlet and uses all functions of it?:P
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I've only used our bt headsets for cell phone stuff, but other than fluidity of conversation there's no reference for how much delay
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: and thnx for all the suggestions btw:)
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: when ppl talk about Stereo PC Audio Input it just means a 3.5mm jack right?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: actualy RCA input
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunsele Tech: depends on the soundcard...can be 1/8 inch, rca, or quarter inch
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: oops sorry mistake... not RCA
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: http://images.techtree.com/ttimages/story/90997_connectors.jpg
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: on this picture you see the rgb part has audio input
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: looks alot like a 3.5mm but seems 3.5mm doesn't work:S
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Butisflika Tech: oh hey, you just have tulip connectors
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Butisflika Tech: or whatever they're called in english :P
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: that's a tulip connector hmm
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: oki thxn
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Butisflika Tech: I'm pretty sure you could just get a cable that converts from tulip to 3.5mm
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: ok that works, now how do I tell the if statement to ignore case sensitive?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Butisflika Tech: and then you can use a normal headset
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: that's a audio input
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rampagne, force to lower first
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: how do you do that?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Butisflika Tech: the one on the bottom left isn't I think
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: if i want computer to connect to TV and connect audio as well
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Butisflika Tech: av out
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: see if #lower exists
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: i think it is %lower
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: cool deal.. I will try it out. thanks for the help
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stigon Tech: hey ther
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: on all descriptions i see it says PC audio in.... what's the most likely possibility except for 3.5mm jack? looked at tulp doesn't look like it at all
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: it's on the 42LG7000 tv
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: This morning, I had a working setup - pc, speakers, disks, webcam. This afternoon, I decided to rearrange my room so I got a friend to help me move it all around. I now have several leads left over, yet there is nothing that isn't working as I would expect.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sieral Tech: anyone using the "Tracker" script in cmud?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: =h
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sieral Tech: Nobody?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: http://www.avforums.com/reviews/includes/displayimage.php?s=reviews/38/connectivity.jpg , right above the RGB connector and next to digital audio out is a audio in socket it says audio in rgb/dvi... can anyone tell me what kind of connector that is?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: or is it just a 3.5mm jack and i just didn't get it working?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Hmm...doesn't look anything like the DVI I've seen
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarkthos Tech: http://www.avforums.com/forums/lg-owners-forum/897208-what-jack-socket-type-audio-rgb-dvi.html
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: thnx zarkthos... i've been literally looking for hours:S
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Anyone got Atheros wireless cards working on amd64 Debian?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: have you tried madwifi?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I tried installing madwifi on my portable ubuntu, but every time I did a 'make clean', it came back with 'Please use KERNELPATH blah blah blah', and when I did that, it said '.config' not found...
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Madwifi doesn't seem to play nice with my kernel, I'm following some patching instructions off r4073 but I can't seem to make the patches work.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I mean.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I downloaded r4073 from the svn, as per instructions on the aircrack-ng site.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Tried to patch it, but the patch does not seem to be able to find a relevant file to update.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: strange my none techy friends seem to have no trouble at all follow the steps here http://madwifi.org/
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Been there, which page should I be looking at?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Madwifi-install, I'm assuming?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: http://madwifi.org/Downloads/0.Howto.Install.Madwifi.txt
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Read that. Now downloading madwifi-20060331.tgz
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: good luck :) hope it works
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Wait, how do I get a full kernel image? :P I'm getting only a patch from kernel.org ...
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: its a patch
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: And the site only has config instructions for 2.6.8... not 2.6.28 ish
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GentooX :(
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: its 4am i cant call them yet, sorry.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: hmm, i'd like some network solution advice, if anyone wants to be sensible
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: normally, if an office has broadband and maybe 1-4 pc's, i'd just set them up a decent quality broadband router/modem combo that had a built in dhcp server
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Heh, it's 3am here. Are they based in Asia? Or are you? :P
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: officemates japan
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Tigernuts.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i need to wirelessly equip an office which has only dialup - is there such a thing as a wireless router with dialup fallback, or am i going to have to use a wireless access point for the wireless with dhcp, and use one of the existing pc's with a dialup modem as the gateway for the internet?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I usually assign static IPs, but leave the dhcp server turned on for visitors, etc
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that way I can get into the router & forward ports on an impromptu basis when they need help
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: tigernuts: the latter
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: shame, means that one will need leaving on
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are wifi routers with dialup, es
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: really?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err yes
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I never heard of such a thing
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: higher end, soho systems
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: ah, expensive
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: might be cheaper just to get an AP and use a PC to dialup :p
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nogs, well i need to speak to them to see how much dialup gets used
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: expensive to the point that I'd rather see them spend the money on not being dialup
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not being on dialup isn't an option
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ouch, heh
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they're in a broadband black hole between exchanges
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: sucky
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: no mobile broadband?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they could probably get mobile broadband, but i've not heard of a mobile broadband wifi router either
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: there are such things
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: huawei does them
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: (huawei being the major maker of 3g dongles for pcs)
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: k, i'll take a butchers
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I have satellite internet.  With the satellite modem, any wifi rounter will work.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: only trouble with mobile bb is the problem of cost
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, we did just set up a remote location with wireless broadband...stuck a laptop with sprint card in a cabinet to share the connection until the cable company gets them set up
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: satellite has kinda big latency, also you need a dish and stuff
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: with mobile broadband you just need the dongle
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Nods, I have a 1.8s ping to the mud or so :P
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: our mobile broadband costs 50/month unlimited
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: and you can get a wifi router the dongle will plug into
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yes, and christ they're expensive
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: oh
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tech Bloke Danj shrugs helplessly.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I didn't think much of the UK wasn't serviced by broadband
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's a problem in rural areas
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: we didn't get broadband in this country till 2001 remember, abelinc
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, true
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: and there's not much fibre over here, it's all copper dsl crap, or 3g mobile broadband
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the other issue is that 3-mobile who do most of this mobile stuff has naff coverage here
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are they satisfied with the dialup when they use it?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: well the other providers are starting to do mobile broadband now too, like vodafone do it now
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: and I think o2 do as well
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no, abe
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: in fact the o2 one might be a better deal as you get access to all the bt openzone wifi spots
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, don't suppose the owners have a house that can get broadband that's on a mountainside, eh?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and o2 and 3 both have dodgy coverage, even going by their own coverage maps
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so looks like dialup it is until the government pull their finger out and get this fibre upgrade done
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: sucktacular
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: oh well, at least you can get unmetered dialup these days
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetcuti Tech: dialup!!
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: heh, i'll have to see what their situation is
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zetcuti screams and runs off into the distance...
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we use router/VPN boxes from fortinet...they offer fortigate 60b and fortiwifi 60b which have analog modems built in
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoogy Tech: haha i got a T1 line at home
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: never heard of them
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetcuti Tech: wish i had a T1...but dsl still good 
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: given modem's tendancy to blow up in thunderstorms, i'd be tempted to let them keep their dialup in a pc
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, most DSL is much better than T1 currently
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Babywolf Tech: move to denmark, fiber all over :) 100/100 lines here
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Babywolf Tech: for no money
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoogy Tech: haha
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, yeah, much better to use a crappy box than a $6-900 VPN box
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: get one of those surge protector 4-way thingies that has a socket for phone
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: that will protect against blowing up in thunderstorms a bit
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: danj, they don't protect against lightnight
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: oh.. really?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: bleh
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on how far the strike...
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for direct strike, NOTHING protects against lightning
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can't beat mother nature when she's pissed
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but they can help with nearby strikes
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varthanorai Tech: Is there a web page with any cool plugins and stuff out there?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: are power cords easily replaceble for laptops? :(
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DinoMilk Tech: Just have to buy a new one...
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varthanorai Tech: They're readily available online.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: uhh i would think so, i don't own one tho...if its a mac maybe not
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: You can purchase a new one, but they are usualy over 50 dollars
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: naw, hp
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: at something like best buy or whatever?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elochai Tech: hell, they're not that hard to find at most office supply stores that sell laptops (like OfficeMax or Staples)
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DinoMilk Tech: Probably less likely, Wissie.  You'll find a better deal online in any case.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: probably cheaper to buy online, best buy is notorious for overcharging on peripherals
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: awesome :D thanks
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Also depends on if you want an HP charger or a generic universal one
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: The universal ones are usually $80+ when you can get the hp ones for about $40.. but then you have to wait for shipping, which sometimes isn't an option
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: it also sucks that everything i look at is geared for the us
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Most of the power adapters will take anywhere from 110 to 220, its just the plugs that are different
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: nods, i was talking in terms of price/shipping costs
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Oh, sorry =p
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: np :)
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You might check HP directly
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: i would just go to your local store
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: if you arne't sure what you're doing that's def an easier option
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: and faster, in most cases :)
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nah, easiest option is to look for the part number on the broke adapter, and find it online =p
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharvis Tech: hello, I have a question about the mushclient for aardwolf is there somoeone availible to assist me?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go ahead & ask, someone can probably help
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DinoMilk Tech: Shoot.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Usually just better to ask the question instead of preface it like that. ;)
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharvis Tech: Ok i can not seem to move the stat panel around
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: you need to see the title bar
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, right-click on the tab for Stats...select move
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't try to drag it though...use your arrow keys to go down
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that will show you the whole window & you can deal with it normally
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: cool :) thats a simpler way to do it :)
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharvis Tech: thank you very much!
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cain killd Abelinc is a simple man
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: agree
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: straight to the point! no adlib
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i always have them at 100 before remorting.
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: good at taking out obstacles
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: sorry mis
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: curse *yawn
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: mis
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: i copy and pasted everything into word that was between the lines except that last little edit thing saying that version 2... and when i load the file i made it just errors with this message
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: Line    3: Attribute name must start with letter or underscore, but starts with ":" (problem in this file)
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aps, use notepad instead of word
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: then the file doesn't save as xml correct?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gotta ensure that you're saving just text, not any of the control things
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: word tries to interpret things, you don't want that
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: sounds like the copy/paste maybe changed the markup
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm betting not copy paste, just word
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: usually gammon's you can just right click and save as  lessens the chance to mess something up, xml is picky if the tags aren't perfect it will whine
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: save as what type?
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: ...xml
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: that isn't a choice
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: xml isn't a real type of anything
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: does it need to be?  just type in blah blah .xml
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: or blah.xml
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: actually name it whatever gammon says to
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: save as all files, foo.xml
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: ansi, unicode, unicode big endian, and UTF-8
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just click save
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: got it working thanks
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: yep np, occassionally gammon does goof too so if you got it from the forums be sure to look if there's a correction, ther was one thing i use from there i had to correct myself as i'm guessin gnobody else uses it/complained it doesn't work
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, if you didn't yet, (now that you updated) go to fiendish's site and replace the bigmap and the chats plugins with the ones on his site
T1/r7/2009-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: chats corrects a bug in gammon's, and bigmap uses a newer more efficient feature that didn't exist in the 4.33
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vote Flygo Tech: so my AVG anti-virus software just deleted all the .dll files in my itunes directory -.-
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Well good, they were obviously viruses.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Maybe next it'll decide all your mp3s are trojans.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ginko Tech: what a horrible pirate you are
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vote Flygo Tech: pirated mp3s!
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elochai Tech: I was thinking it'd find spyware in the system .dll's :P
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: news flash...AVG bought out by RIAA
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ginko Tech: kewl
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: possible, also possible its a false positive of an overzealous av
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Did it delete them or just quarantine them?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vote Flygo Tech: 77 detected "trojans" !
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vote Flygo Tech: I deleted the first one that popped up when I tried to open itunes
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vote Flygo Tech: the other 76 I'll hold off on, though I'll probably have to extract the library files and re-install itunes now
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: replace that dll and you "might" be ok
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vote Flygo Tech: after updating to the latest AVG release, my computer suddenly has 77 fewer trojans :P
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sieral Tech: can anyone tell me why this code would send 984 to the mud http://textsnip.com/932127
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sieral Tech: using cmud btw
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: can anyone answer a MUSH question?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: won't know until we see the Q
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: just ask your question
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: when I do a ColourNote the color the background colour fills the whole line not just the text
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's what a background color is
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: foreground color is the text color
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: I am sure I have seen it stop at the end of the text
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try resetting the color after the text
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: ah now thats an idea, thanks
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so set background red...type text...set background (white or black)
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: so i used initaard so everything is automatically put into place, but i can't move my stats window because of where the top of it is placed, does anybody know how to fix this problem?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right-click the tab for Stats...select move, but do NOT try to use the mouse to move it...hit the down arrow on your keyboard to move it down to where you can see the titlebar
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: ty
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: because i did that and tried the mouse, didn't worn
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: work*
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: so i had an inventory addon by blainer and now it doesn't work, but it worked less than an hour ago
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: won't let me enable it
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Guess it's a no-blainer, then.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: ...
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: nice try
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: but why wouldn't a plugin be able to be enabled all of a sudden
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you try to enable it and it won't enable, it should put a window up with the error...annoyingly, behind the plugins list window
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: when i try enabling it i guess this Warning: Plugin Inventory_Display is currently disabled. in the aardwolf box
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: get*
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: no idea then?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: i have a plugin that i am trying to get to work and i get this error Line   17: Plugin "id" field must be unique for this world (problem in this file)
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: what can i do to fix it
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: do exactly what it says?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: each plugin needs its own unique id, i think it has something to do with some of the files deeper in your mush directory as there's some kind of cache thing that happens and it uses that as the filenames
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: get a text editor open your plugin and change the plugin id that looks like this id="e5ba9d8d543592b7ae80926b"
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: do that ^
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: where is the ID at?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: line 17?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: inside the <plugin tag
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: i think i found it
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: now i get this error it'll load but errors...
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: does anybody use this plugin http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?id=9574&page=1
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: the weird thing is the first time i installed it it worked
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: but when i closed mushclient and brought it back up later it didn't work anymore
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: what do you mean?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: you have to install that plugin after editing it
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: File->Plugins->Add
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: this inventory plugin, i saved it the first time and added it and it worked, i closed mushclient when i logged out came back later and it didn't work anymore
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: miniwindows only work with 4.34 version of mush
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: i have the newest version
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: k
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Or newer. There are several bugs in the first few versions for miniwindows.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: 4.42
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: try reinstalling it again
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: i did like 10 times...
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: no error?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: if you add it 10 times it should have given you an error message
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: i redid the file multiple times because it quit working trying to fix it : /
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: i get a run-time error since i switched ID's
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so, what's the error message. these things usually have a clue in them
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: Reason: processing trigger ""
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: A blank trigger?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: argh
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: you edited and broke it lol
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: why did you edit it?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: i can't copy paste it all so, i am going to delete the file after removing it redl it and see what happens
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: i only edited the ID
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: why?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: i was told to because it needed a unique ID
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: gentoox told me
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: if there is an error on duplicate ids, it means it already existed
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: now im assuming you have to copies of the same plugin
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: You need a unique ID, but it's stranger that you would have a duplicate ID to start with
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: It would imply that you are trying to run two copies of the same plugin
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: i don't have multiple copies though
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: its only in the plugin window once?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: not really ive dealt with multiple ids a lot of time because i use templates :)
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: same, when i was working on plugins
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Or, you created a second plugin based off the first plugin, and instead of using the wizard, you just changed the aliases, triggers, and or script.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: bingo
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: It might not be two copies, it might be you're running one copy twice
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aps  /
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: remove the remaining plugin aps,  then reinstall your downloaded one
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: alright, i already removed it going to resave a new one
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: can you really run one plugin twice?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: No idea, I'm just challenging the notion
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: you cant. lol
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Remind Hargreaves grins evilly.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: you cant for the very same reason that each plugin is unique
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: so i just redid the file going to add the plugin
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: but you had me "ohh"ed
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: so, i redid it won't let me enable it
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: is there any way of using (less than) functions in triggers on Mushclient?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: (less than) function?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: numeric comparison?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: yeah
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: LOL
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: Trying to get it to change the background color of my bprompt when something like Health:80%  Enemy: 3% : 53% at 1283  has enemy health below or at 15%. Right now I'm stuck with *Enemy: 3% :*
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: Was the awnser so obvious that you gave it to me and I missed it... if so... please tell me...
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: No, it's semi-involved
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: But I can try
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Well, there are two ways to do it... one is you can set up a regexp that detects when the Enemy % is between 0 and 15.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Riasiru blinks. "No idea what that means, but go on?"
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: The second is that you can capture all instances of your bprompt, but only do something if the Enemy value is less than 15
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik sits down and thinks deeply. 
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: How does he do that second one? (that'll answer his original question)
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I was under the impression that it works when the enemy health is 3%
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: so why wouldn't i be able to enable a plugin?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Is that the case, Riasiru?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Riasiru blinks... "Still lost here, so..."
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: gentoox can you hook me up with a new ID again I wonder if that is the problem
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: let's see, It needs to work from 15% to 0%, so yeah, it should work at 3% if it's doing it.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Am I right in thinking it's not working now?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: it would only highlight the background if the enemy was at 3%hp.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: As is... unless I went and made 16 triggers for all 16hp levels...
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: can anybody hook me up with an ID?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Fake ID?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien comforts Aps.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: plugin ID
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: its not like a cd key, its essentially a hashkey as far as i understand it
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: so i could put 11111111...?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: why do you want to change it?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i dunno gen seems to do this more than i but i'd think just changing the last digit  it just needs to be unique  no 2 plugins of yousr can use the same one
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: so get rid of both and install just 1?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i remember getting a specific error when they match tho
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Try making the trigger ^.+Enemy: (0|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15)% :.+$  -- then check the Regexp box, Riasiru.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Rathik: Anchoring it isn't going to do crap, since you're already looking for everything in front of it.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Fair enough. It's just the regexp equivalent of the blob version that he had previously.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: err, she
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Heh. :P
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: it defines it as a regex tho so thanks for doing computational logic at 3:42am making my brain hurt :P
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: If you want though, you can make that regexp less ugly by using a look behind if you want, Charn :)
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Anchoring it does not define it as regex.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: No, but the part where I said "check the regexp box" does.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: uhh...he put in every possible condition hehe
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: I don't use mushclient, but I'm wondering now why noone's come up with how to use "<" or "<=" in mush
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: It'd be easy enough to do in a script.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoogy Tech: maybe they are lazy?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: But first your trigger has to match on the text.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: Like you could capture the percent number and submit that into a function that could do the numerical comparison.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: just use a wildcard no? take that wildcard if its less than blah do something
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ode enthusiastically high-fives Vendek!
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: hmm i'm unable to download packages from the cmud package library despite entering my correct login id/password
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: any help?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Wow, Cmud has a package library you need to log in to?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gathaldrium Tech: lol announcement #857
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Yeah.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gathaldrium Tech: I emailed the iwuvaard maintainer years ago about that
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: what?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gathaldrium Tech: look at announcement 857
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Why?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yeah, I had to clean out the usernames and passwords from my SQL dump.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Who needs those.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: how do i view this note?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gathaldrium Tech: note read X
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Make sure you're on the right board first.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: wow its late i'm typing read note that isn't going to work
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: I figured out how to do it with a bit less hassle. Check regular expression, then add the trigger, < Enemy: 15%|Enemy: 14%|Enemy: 13%||Enemy: 12%|Enemy: 11%|Enemy: 10%|Enemy: ?% >
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Why not parse it as a number?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Has to be less than 15. :P
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: ok so may 3rd 2009
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: castor oil
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: Becuase I still don't know how to do that?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: helps you parse things
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Rathik showed you, - do a tech -h Rathik to see his lines
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: I was looking through the help files while you guys were talking, trying to keep tabs on both.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Acually, could just do Enemy:\s+1?[0-9] (though that will be 1-19.) :P
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Well, Hargreaves, that's probably the fastest way. Parsing as a number would lead to conversion back and forth... icky.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Being dumm, but what would [0-5] do in that, Charneus?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Only look for 0-5, then 10-15.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: It'd skip 6-9.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: ah, not good ;)
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so have two expressions, one for the 10-15 and one for the 1-9
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: I'm starting to understand this now. How about < Enemy:\s+(1?[0-5]|?[0-9] >
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: forgot the ) at the end, but yeah.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: I don't see why you don't just capture the percent number and submit it to a script function.  That seems easier to me.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Also possible.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Don't need the ? before the [0-9] part, but yeah, should work.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: Parse the number into an int and then compare it to determine if it's the desired range.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: have you tried turning it off and on again?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: I just had a better idea, this is also a test, but meh. Use < Enemy: [0-15]% > to highlight it. Enemy: 4% should be highlighted then, right?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: Wrong, apparently...
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: No.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: [ ] means a range that contains what is defined in it.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Overlord Xantcha Tech: More specifically, a /character/ range, not a numeric one
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: Darn. >_<
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: For instance, if I did [A3erg] it would only look for things that contained those letters/numbers. [0-9] means every digit from 0 to 9.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: what is thsi being grabbed from? prompt?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: Yeah, my prompt displays like that.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you also need to escape the special characters there
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: So why not match on an optional literal 1 followed by 1 more char in the range 0-5 which is required?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i could be totally wrong but you know there's something before it always and something after it always...i don't quite get why you can't just capture your health % as a number directly  then do something that decides to color or not
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Look, just do: Enemy:\s+(?:(1[0-5]|[0-9])) as your regex pattern.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: Wait, what about the % then?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: that looks lik eit would work too
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Add it at the end. :P
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: isn't the enemy dead at 0%?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: You don't have to match the whole line if you don't use anchors.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not always, nuts
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: You can just match the partial line.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: damn those undead
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Therefore: Enemy:\s+(?:(1[0-5]|[0-9]))% -- there you go. :P
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: you could just let it finish the line on wildcard
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: centipede in gladiators, for example
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: Enemy[:]\s+(?:(1[0-5]|[0-9]))[%]
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: No need to do that, Dagnir...
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: Actually, I think I figured it out.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no need to escape them in mush?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: It's regex. :P
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i know
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: No need to escape them in regex.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: depends where you're using it. i'm just being careful
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i.e. if i write an alias  usegarbagecan  and i type this line currently, it'll hit it too, if you force it to be the beginning of a statement...ultimately you just limit what it hits on
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: If a program you're using forces you to escape what regex accepts, then there's something wrong with the program.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: like zmud :P
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: zMUD uses it properly. ;)
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: then i need another coffee
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you're right. they're not metachars now when i'm looking at a cheat sheet :\
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: For the record, I just replaced the number with (1[0-5]|[0-9]) and it worked.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: Riasiru Oh, sorry, I didn't see the or.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Riasiru: So yo udid what I told you to do.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: I knew there was some really simple way of coding it.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: that's what I wanted, simple and sleek.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: You're welcome. :P
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: I didn't know about [0-9] junk or anything before this, so thanks. XD
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: its in the documentation somewhere
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Bear in mind, documentation tends to be written by geeks for geeks so not everyone can understand it
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: avast is godawful
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: How so?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: slows an older pc down to a crawl
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: I'm sure it's not the only antirvirus software to do that. :)
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no, but it's certainly worse then AVG
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: I have trouble putting a lot of faith in free virus solutions.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i'm not a huge fan of avg, i suggest it only cause its free
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: My experience is tonnes of false positives from AVG.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: exactly the same
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: That's nearly as bad as missing viruses...
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Malwarebytes ftw. :P
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: Crying wolf.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: tru dat
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: (Waits for someone to suggest we all get Macs or run Linux. :) )
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Let's all run eMacs on Linux!
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: if you pay attention to your computer
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: Damn you! :)
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i think it is rather difficult for a virus to trouble you
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien rapidly nods twice at Ode, in complete agreement.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: Ode, I agree.  I give a big speech when people bring an infected computer to me.  This is a behavioural problem you have here.  User behaviour.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Antivirus should just be a courtesy measure.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I take very good care of my computer. I only have AVs because I'm not the only one who uses it.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: hijackthis is perhaps the greatest tool once something gets infected
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i worked in tech support too hehe, same speech
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: Right.  Do NOT think of your antivirus as your first line of defence.  It's the last, and you hope you don't need it.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: People are under the false impression that having an AV is going to protect them.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vendek nods at Charitable Charneus.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: So they get stupid and start downloading crap they shouldn't.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: And then I don't want to fix it because they'll end up right back on my doorstep...
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: whats worse they lie about visiting porn sites
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: I tell my friends: I will do this for you at no charge.  Once.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: "Oh! This program that says tjnvs.exe looks so cool! Let's download it!"
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vendek falls down laughing.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: downloads beautiful naked women screensaver and save in your computer?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: When I was in Comp Repair class, the teacher said a friend of his had an infected computer he wanted me to look at. Yeah, it was infected. 2300 viruses...
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Babywolf Tech: lemme guess, as i just logged on, you're doing 10 fast ways to get malware on a windows machine?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I went to the teacher and said, 'You're lucky I can't charge you for this, but I better be getting a damned 'A+' in this class.'
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: LOL
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: My recommended solution wouldn't have varied from 1 to 2300: format, reinstall.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: heh reformat is the coward's way out imo
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: LOL
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: It's the only way to be 100% sure.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: what is reformat?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: The system has been compromised, after all.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: That's not a way to be 100% sure, actually.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Indeed.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: No need to reformat.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: a few viruses can survive bad reformats.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: What's going to survive a format?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: yes boot sect viruses :)
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Hah. Yeah, but I wasn't going to sit there through 2300 viruses. All of which, by the way, were the 'I love you' virus.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Boot ... blah.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: oo fun
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: Well, that's ingenious.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: thats the only virus i hate
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: Most BIOS will warn if the MBR is modified, no?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: no
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: eh, viruses can find their way in
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: in theory, sure.  In practice, rarely.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Would they?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: a good virus will sweep the rug out before it knows what hit it
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Babywolf Tech: any of you guys doing malware research?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: Ah, fricken webbed. SIGH
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Not really, Babywolf.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Noweb ftw.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: not specifically, most recent research i've done is about hooks and windows api if you could call it research
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Babywolf Tech: cool :)
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Babywolf Tech: i do a little research on malware in my sparetime, it's a fun subject i think
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Heh, OK.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: yes and most of them is catered by wscript.exe
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: how very bizarre, this mobo is claiming that the cpu is unsupported
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I would say that would be due to the cpu not being supported.  *nodself*
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: thats funny
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: how did it say it to you?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: doesn't your motherbaord talk?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: nope, but his does even with brain damage
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it was writted on the screen so it was wrote
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and, fyi, some motherboards do actually speak to you through the system speaker
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: without a processor?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it has a processor, boots, says the cpu is unsupported
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I had a 286 board that spoke.  It rocked.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's despite teh QVL saying it is
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: did you try craming a ppc into a socket 775 or somthing?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i just find it funny, its unsupported cpu, but its using its functionality. :o
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nope, am2+ into am2+
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: What does it say when you don't have a cpu in at all?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: it cant of course
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: there should be various post code beeps.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: cant... after power supply it test for cpu instructions
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: and some motherboards will beep once.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: even without cpu? bios which is in charged for those beep codes is supposed to be loaded after CPU is checked
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i would imagine that this bios has not been given specific instructions for this cpu string
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'll try downgrading the bios later
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: correct
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: odd thing is it'll boot anyway, just hit f1 to continue
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: something is not right in your bios :)
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: think i'd already established that
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: hey does anyone here use HAL on gentoo?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: specifically, with respect to making xorg work with it?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: I have HAL on SuSE - X.org runs perfectly fine. What's the issue?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: timeghost the issue is none of my input devices will input anymore 
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: and i am told its cause of hal
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: is the HAL daemon running?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: which presents some rather unpleasant consequences, of not being able to utilize x
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: hmn, lemme check
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: should at least have hald and hald-runner there
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: yes, hald and hald-runner are running
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: anything in /var/log/messages?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: also addon for acpi and /dev/inputs 1-3
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: cannot access /var/log/messages no such file or directory
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: that's not good - do you have a /var/log/??
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: yes.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: what's in there? /var/log/messages is a typical must, haven't seen a unixoid without i
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: anyone has any idea why battlefaith is not listed in slist spellup, while other cskills like blacrose are?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: timeghost, it has , a lot of .logs and directories with .logs
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: would dmesg be close enough to your messages ?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: your gentoo is strange, i have messages in /var/log
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: gentoox, do you use syslog-ng ?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: hmn.. k... you got any ideas on how to get my xorg to work again after that update?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ie, do you use hald?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: no i dont have hal
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ok... 
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: do you know how to get rid of hal, ?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: what update? syslog?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: no, emerge -u world
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: oh, thats dangerous :)
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: just turned off hal
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: did that help?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Groko Tech: hello could someone help me please
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Groko Tech: anyone here?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Butisflika Tech: no
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Groko Tech: he he ... Could I ask tech related questions here?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Butisflika Tech: that's what it's for
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Groko Tech: super, I am trying to get the chat out of the aardwolf screen, but cant find out how ...
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Nope, it's only for giving out tech-related answers.  No questions.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Type 'chats echo off'
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: is there a way to keep it like that? i have to type it everytime i log in
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Groko Tech: great ... ty
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Groko Tech: .... maybe you guys can help me configure my screens as well, I am trying to get in place like the example on www.aardwolf.com/play/screenshots.htm, but somehow the screens do not fit
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Butisflika Tech: I don't know anything about that client but maybe you can lower the font size?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Butisflika Tech: then you will probably be able to fit more on your screen
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Groko Tech: I tried, but then it is not readable anymore ... tried different fonts, but only this one (standard) lines out correctly
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so, why is it that Canon are so shockingly rubbish when it comes to drivers?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: anyone know a pwd cracker for winzip 12? a buddy of mine forgot the pwd he used. appreciate any help.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Semper Flat goes, "SUUUUUUUURE...."
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: canon posted 'vista' drivers for a scanner that didnt' work. When i looked, they were dated 2003
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volans Tech: consider gettting 7zip, it works GREAT and is free
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volans Tech: and legal
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: winrar is an alternative
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: gawd, they've remade Bionic Commando
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: course, nobody here remembers games from the 80s :-(
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beltegeuse Tech: double dragon
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: mine only problem with that is that double dragon was naff
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: rainbow island was good
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Umm... my Live Messenger randomly started blinking whenever I receive new messages (I still get the sound effect) without me changing any settings.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: And I can't find the setting to make it blink again. Where is it?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you updated
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: hey guys, is gnomex any better than that stuff they make firefighter vests out of?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ugly buG Cassin Tech: Cmud: If I save a number in parentheses as a variable, i can't output the variable properly to have parentheses in tact e.g. (123). if I use tildes ~ they parse too, and if not it's only 123
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Candor Tech: Hi, is anybody here an expert on aircrack?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus raises his hand.
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Candor Tech: Then help me. :P
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: What is the easiest way to find out what type and how many MHz memory a computer has?  Is opening it up and physically looking the only way?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: are you able to map a network drive of a computer in the same household that is only "connected" with you via the file sharing network on windows?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for your previous question, try belarc advisor
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderchief Tech: how do i uninstall a plugin?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: file -> plugins
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderchief Tech: I've done something to zmud. can't scroll up and I don't remember how to fix it
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderchief Tech: I suppose that was a question. Does anybody know why I can't scroll up?
T1/r7/2009-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetcuti Tech: anyone recommend a decent freeware defragger for windows xp
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: where can i get the spellup plugin at so i can set certain spells to be cast with one command
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: for MUSHclient
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: how do i convert xml into lua so i use it on linux?
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: That's like converting an apple into an airplane.
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon . o O ( Lots of fun! )
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: lol where where can i get the lua spellup plugin?
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: for what client?
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: MUSHclient from aardwolf site
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: You don't need to do anything. xml is the plugin format. 
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: lol but i have linux and need lua instead lol
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon peers around herself intently.
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: that xml file contains, the trigger, alias, and the lua functions
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: You don't need it to be anything.
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: just go to file -> plugins then add the plugin
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: MUSHclient plugins are always in XML format, Travectan. If the plugin has a script in it, it may or may not be Lua. But the plugin is still in XML. Even on Linux.
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: This is the link to the spellup plugin for MUSHclient: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=8780
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Does anyone have any idea how a lightning storm could break my VCR and my ethernet port on my computer, but nothing else?
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: TV, monitor, stereo, XBOX 360, and the rest of the computer are perfectly fine.
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: in my triggers how do i separate spells, so that there all cast one at a time instead of all at once on one line?
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: can anyone help me with triggers?
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: what client do you use?
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: the newest MUSHclient from aardwolf
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: type ctrl shift 9 to get to triggers
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: switch to tintin++ and i can help ya
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: tintin?
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: yeah its a mud client
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: is it better?
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: 0h
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: i think it is but its a matter of opinion
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: can it run on wine linux?
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: i dont wanna risk it i like this one
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: umm tintin++ is made for linux
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: how may i help you with triggers
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: i run linux
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: lol i didnt know
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: they have wintin++ for windows
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Tintin runs without Wine, but MUSHclient is probably better
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: tinyfugue runs natively on linux too
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: gentoox. i need to know how to make a tirgger cast a list of spells separetly instead of all together in one line which wont cast any spells
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: shouldnt it be lintin for linux wintin for windows and mactin for mac?
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: funeh, but first you need to find out how your spells should trigger
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: man im missing all the bonus xp cause im frikken tired of typing cast this and cast that to power my self up all the time
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: like cast blur then it casts blur then cast haste then it castes haste and so on but only with one command
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i thought you downloaded a spellup plugin?
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Aardwolf does have a spellup command built in by the way.
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: help spellup can help
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: i tried but it keeps giving me errors and crap
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: which sucks
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: do you mean an alias or a trigger, they are two separate things
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: uhhhhh i dont know lol i just want to be able to cast blur and haste and whatever else with one command
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: Rathik aardwolf spellup is not built in
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: ok do shift + ctrl + 9
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: ok then what
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: There is too a spellup command coded into Aardwolf.
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: click add
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: ive gotten there
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: come on no argueng right now ok
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: k
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: oh sorry lol. i was confused
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: Travectan name your alias like hasteblur
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: on the send put cast send on one line, the cast blur on the next
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: keep telling me what to do im going to pen it upanswer lol i had same problem go to plugins and disable the help pop up thing
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: on the send put cast haste on one line, the cast blur on the next
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: then close, then try typing hasteblur
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: ok here i go
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mathoran Tech: I must be confused, what's wrong with the spellup command detailed in the spellup help file? Is that not good enough?
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: it does not recast on failure
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: among other things
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: that's 1 simple trig
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mathoran Tech: Yes, but it's probably still sufficient for what he needs
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Einstein Tech: any cmud users ard?
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: anyone know if MS media player actually upscales videos when played fullscreen or just enlarges it?
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Anyone got any link to pages for scripts for mushclient?
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: don't think much of the game 'FUEL'
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: Is there a command in zmud that will take ?,??? and let it be registered as ????, such as 1,000 to 1000?
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: how about you sub the ',' with nothing
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: #alis {,} {}
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: No, like capturing 1,000 and adding 1000 to a db
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: in a trigger capture it with %n
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: well, alias  even
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: I am trying to set up a spellup others alias, how do I set it to recast the spells that fail?
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: right now I have it set up to tell me what they are but can't figure out how to get it to recast on initial target
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ulrich, use a spellup script that already includes spelling up others :-)
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: thats the easy way though :p
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then don't just use %1...actually set the target into a variable and cast on the variable
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Your best bet would probably be having it set a variable whenever you use the command to spellup another -- settnig it to whatever name you typed in.
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: although I think the one Im setting up is a bit rudimentary since I dunno how to make it auto read and record new spells coming in, I have to manually input each into the script
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: qspells spellup other
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: That might help
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Or: qspells spellup other 1 201 50 100
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Will only cast ones you have over 50%
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Or list them, rather
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: nod but I still have to manually input each one when I get them
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: unlike the spellup script which auto-detects and adds to the script
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: That command will always show an updated list -- you can use that to update your list at any time
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Say, whenever you level, if you want
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ulrich, leinei was saying you could actually make a command that types the qspells, and puts each line of its output into the script
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: oic
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaymez Tech: -10
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Or nods, just use that command to cast the spells -- and not even have to keep a list
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaymez Tech: oops
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and the only spellup script I know of that knows when you get a new spell is mine ;-)
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: I have one that does that, but its for tt
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: so have it set to a trig set when I level to auto update it basically?
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the only distributed one, publicly available ;-)
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: okie whats the link Abe, I think Im in a bit over my head :p
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, mine is for tinyfugue
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are plenty of spellup scripts available that handle spelling up yourself and others, though
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: know of one for MUSH?
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gammon's is the best for MUSH...the guy that wrote it wrote MUSH itself
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=8780
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Let's say you type "spellup leinei".  You have a trigger that matches every line, that's turned on by another trigger that matches on the first line of the qspells output.  The trigger that matches every line will try to cast whatever it matches on, on leinei.  And then have another trigger to match the last line of the qspells output to turn that other trigger off.
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: esp a non buggy one, I got one one time and took me hours to get my client straightened back out
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: So, when you type 'spellup leinei', it sets leinei to a variable, and does 'qspells spellup other learned', and then the triggers will kick in.
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: That's a "basic" one.
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: my brain is Jello no :p
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, you're missing the trigger that started the thread ;-)
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: now even
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: typing spellup <someone> would also create a lost concentration trigger to cast <thatspell> <targetvariable>, to complete the circle
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I actually made one for myself similar to that, but with minimal scripting.  I just have another command to set my target, and then just have those three triggers -- the first and last one are just 1 line functions, and the middle one isn't even a script function at all.
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Oh yeah, forgot he was wanting to do that :P
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: if I get that script Abe with the one programmed into the client already won't they clash?
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaymez Tech: abelinc
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaymez Tech: mis 
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: is there a limit to how many aliases/triggers you can create in mush?
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: the volume icon disappeared from my taskbar, is there a way i can get it back without restarting?
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sound control panel should have an option
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Go to control panel, and sound
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: How do I use the gain monitor on MUSH?
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Is there any message that you recieve from all mobs that let you know it is dead? I want to build a spellup script that won't try to cast during battle.
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: Have you tried the spellup plugin?  It is uber.
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: I use tt
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vendek Tech: nvm then :)
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: you can use statmon to determine if you're in combat or not
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Ok, that will work
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Any other tt users on to debug a script with me?
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What's the zMUD trigger option to have a trigger be able to trigger itself? I've got a trigger that only works once (if the pattern repeats, nothing happens).
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Reparse, I believe.
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Or repeat within line.
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: How do you set it?
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Honestly, I've forgotten. I think you have to create a new state with * as the trigger pattern and the option to Reparse.
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: But where do you set it to "reparse"? I can't find such an option
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Oh wait, found "Loop patterns". I'll explore this.
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: When you create a new state, the second box will generally say 'pattern'. You can press R (no drop down box, if I recall) to get to reparse, or at least use up and down arrows.
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: where is a good place for me to look if I am trying to capture the information that is output from typing where <mob>
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's pretty straightforward...
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: text stuff...multiple spaces...text stuff
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: %1 * %1?
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: ... You don't use %# in trigger patterns. 
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: oops, that's right
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: For that matter, your 'trigger' would capture everything. It isn't definitive.
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: %1 to %9 and %<11> to %<999> work though. 
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: tech my trigger is where *
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: They do, but they're not supposed to. Not in trigger patterns.
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, they work because zugg was sloppt
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err sloppy
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: now i just need to figure out how to capture the results
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's when the %1 stuff should be used...in the result/action, not in the trigger
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: eg. * is auctioning a * /(Level *, Num */). Current bid is *. And you wanted to automaticly get info on the object by sending bid <auction number> You'd use bid %4
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Actually, bid  wouldn't work. You're not capturing anything. And we're talking about using the parameters in the trigger pattern itself, not as the value.
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: i am trying to capture the result into a variable
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Er, bid %4
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: if i say where lizard, i want it to put the name of the room int oa variable
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I know what you're trying to do.
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wait, your "trigger" is "where *" that's not a trigger
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the MUD never sends you "where <something>"
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: that's an alias.
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: or, wait... yeah, no. Gyah, half asleep, ignore me.
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: no, when i type where lizard it works because I have echo test in the trigger and it is echoing test to me
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: so i know it works
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't need to use the * from the where line, as that part is irrelevant
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, rampagne, you need to read up on what triggers actually are for...
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: i know what they are for
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: i have never done this type of trigger before 
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, you truly don't
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: yes i do
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's nothing "this type" about this
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: of course he does, he's a l33t retribution raider, remember? :p
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: nm, i wil lfigure it out, thanks
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're looking to to the absolute most basic type of trigger here
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: he's in retribution, he's one of the greats of aardwolf
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: just ask zion :p
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: This is a trigger in much the same way as baking a cake is quantum physics
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the trigger "where *" is absolutely silly to ever have...
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Heh. #REGEX {^[A-Za-z':, -]{29}(.*)}} {#ADDITEM wherelocation %1} -- There's your answer. *sigh*
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Of course, you'll want to have it off when you're not using it.
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the MUD is not sending you "where <something>" on a line...that is what a trigger is for...to read what the MUD sends to you...a trigger there is simply wrong...you do want to trigger on the output of the command, though
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, not quite how I'd have done it, but I guess so
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: BigRichard Rampagne sighs.
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: yes, i know.. i asked the wrong question
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: charn's trig say "capture everything after column 29"
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods.
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Anyone know of a nice easy way to tell what the mac address is of a specific IP/port that I am trying to connect to?
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you won't see the mac address if it's not on the local net
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but if it is, ping it, then look at the arp table
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: arp -a
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: It's not on the local network.  I just want to make sure I am connecting to the right server, and there isn't any weird ip masquerading.
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mac address doesn't go across routers
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: bah, I was afraid of that.  Oh well, crazy people on the other end are out of luck.
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: is divx format small in size than video?
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Than what sort of video?
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: dvd video
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Most DVD video is MPEG, if I'm not wrong ...
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: so in terms of file size is dvd video larger than that in divx format?
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I would think DivX is smaller, for the usual encoding rates anyway, since it is common to see DVDrips in approximately 700MB
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: DVDrips is in DivX format?
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: It really depends on the quality and encoding rate.
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: ya know what i like? h264. ya know what i don't like? h264 encoded cam-versions.
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Well, a lot of them tend to be in xvid or divx.
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: assuming equal quality 
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: L33tM4st3r Lashan grimaces painfully at the thought.
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: oh ok ... thanks
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: another question 
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: if I want to copy a video dvd ... but only want to copy chapter 1 ... how do I do that? Windows DVD creator doesn't do that I think 
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: Would anyone be able to recommend a decent free iso creator?
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Imgburn
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Escapes me at the moment. Windows, I presume?
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: DVDDecrypter? :P
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: Yeah, XP SP3
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: imgburn
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: Just trying to get a game on a netbook
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: yeah, imgburn
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: And I guess daemon tools to mount it? :P
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: daemon tools will work to mount it. if you have powerISO, that will do both..
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: both? alcohol 120%
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: If we're pirating software anyway, may as well get alcohol or something. :P
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: alcohol works well
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: yeah, good point. :)
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: Well, in this case, I'm not really pirating. I own the discs and keys, so I would guess this is at least semi legal :P
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: hhmm ... 
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: The DMCA disagrees! :P
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: Is it worth using alcohol 52%?
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: DMCA. I laughed.
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i don't believe the dmca disagrees
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Circumventing a protection device?
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Making an unauthorized copy?
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: eh what are we talking about doing?
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: my history has been bumped
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you own it - you decide what you do with it
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I realize you theoretically have Fair Use since you own it, I'm just saying that judges are crap.
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: you are allowed to make backups for personal use
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: copyright lobbies would sue their own grandmothers
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: I know, I know.
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I have no problem with being a pirate, because the pirates are less reprehensible to me than the copyright advocates.
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: now for dvds it gets tricky, they claim cracking any of their copy protection in the process of creating a backup is unlawful
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: Seriously though, is alcohol 52 worth using?
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Will it do what you want it to?
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: dunno how well it would stand up in court but there is a case somewhere that does define the right to have a backup of media so them preventing that essentially could be unlawful too but its untested
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: I have absolutely no clue :P
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: ok obviously I am out of the loop in this discussion. I'll just stop the player after chapter 1
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Fair Use is very tested, it's just that the copyright nazis have been trying to kill it forever.
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: oh yes absolutely oby, they want you to buy a new copy when your original breaks
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: capitolism for ya
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: As far as they're concerned you don't even own your copy, you're leasing the right to use it from them.
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: yep, i'm really unhappy with them as well, they are causing their own demise in my opinion
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: not fast enugh for my tastes
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: for instance, if you've ever heard of starforce   i won't get those games
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: so ubisoft has lost my business like forever
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: when spore was released i believe securom was on it, apparently it made the game unplayable for people who actually bought it and the ppl who got it thru various channels were the only ones who could play
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: but at any rate, what the hell was the original question? lol
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: quick question ... does anyone know if a dvd has capacity for 150 minutes video is this limit a hard limit. So if I try to place something 152 minutes on it ... what would it do
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: it's not a hard limit. it has to do with the bitrate of the encoding
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: the limit isnt on viseo time, its storage space
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: The limit is on video time if you encode it as a DVD.
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: when I use Windows DVD creator, it says 150 minutes
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: you got 4gb or whatever, the program might have predetermined how its gonna use up the space
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: even mpeg-2 can have the bitrate adjusted.
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: yes to Obyron. But is this a hard limit. Will it allow a bit of over-time?
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: If it's a data disc that happens to have video files on it, it's based on storage space, but then your standalone dvd player would have to support the video files.
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: You can encode in extended play, etc., different quality levels to get a dvd format disc with more play time.
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: my dvd player plays DivX and Avi format but not all Avi format ... so I don't understand
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: L33tM4st3r Lashan nods.
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: AVI is a container format, it's not actually a video codec.
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: ohhhhhhhhh 
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: so DivX is the video codec?
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yes, and in other words, your DVD player only plays DivX movies using the avi-container
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: DivX, Xvid, H.264, etc., yeah
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: oh ok 
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: so if the laptop plays avi format what does it mean
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: those are the files with .avi extension doesn't mean it's DivX?
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yup, .avi was around long before DivX.
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Correct, because an AVI can "hold" different types of video.
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: how do you know if the video codec is divx then 
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: There's no way to tell without having the file, but there should be utilities that can tell you.
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: what utilities?
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I've never had to do it, so I'll let someone else tell you, I just know you can.
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: G-spot. Small, easy o use, fast.
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: oh ok ... thanks yuna
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: thanks guys
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Also, when you play it on your computer, the DivX-logo will appear for a few seconds in the bottom right corner, I think.
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: last one ... how do I convert all my files to DivX files?
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: Haha, it turns out I can't bypass EA's copy protection anyway :P
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: for what?
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: Sims 2.
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: Trying to create an iso for a netbook
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: don't have it :(, securom?
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: Apparently it is protected with SafeDisc
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: Is anyone here able to help with imgburn problems?
T1/r7/2009-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: but yes, I believe you can just add the commands to the gauge just like a push button
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryllyn Tech: I heard there is a plugin for a spellup window. How can I get that to show up?
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=8780
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's probably what you're looking for
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's the best spellup script for MUSH...written by the guy that wrote MUSH itself
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryllyn Tech: ok, thanks I will check that out
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vivh Tech: Hey. anyone familiar with how to make macros for character abilities using MUSHclient? I'm new to MUDs
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Hmm
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: This quest script is kinda messed up.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Quest finished for 19+2qp.  It took 892m:54s.  Avg:18.80 qp/quest.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: if that's mine, I take no responsibility...
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: What client/script is that?
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but if it's not balaam's, he fully takes responsibility
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Mushclent, let me get the script name
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: GainMonitor or QReporter then.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: That is mine, therefore not my fault.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Quest_inform
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: ah, not mine.  It is my fault...
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Author Onoitsu2
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Where can I get Qreporter?
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Venificius is Onoitsu2.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: My website is back up.  It's in my finger info.  Most of the scripts there have to be updated to the new ones.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: wow, they are way out of date.  I just chucked my old site on the new server.  I will have them mostly updated within a day.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: So would you recommend not getting them until you update them?
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: If you want them to work 100%  :)
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which is more current, yours or madcatz's moonbot?
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: neither.  Both there are broken.  The messages for the moons changed ever so slightly.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, I knew about the message change to falling
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: well, if you change the fall to falling or whatever, then both work.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you change that in yours, you can also fix the issue with writing notes now that MUSHclient gets tick messages from telnet options ;-)
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Mine is a little more...  needlessly complicated?
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I never had that issue.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, you explicitly say that you have that issue
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: oh, that was really friggin out of date, then.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Thought it was 2.0 that was up there.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: bast made a moonbot script
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, "never" means "not since 1.0" then :P
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: and this install of MUSH has three moonbot scripts install for some friggin insane reason.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: ooo
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You ruffle Blessed Balaam's hair playfully.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: No, never had to deal with telnet options to do it.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: without telnet options, it'll have the issue
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: No, it guestimates the ticks :)
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: btw Noodlez one reason for the large number of minutes is if you change timezone/date
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'll either have drift off from ticks, or you'll have the issue
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: I haven't though.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: extremely slow drift from the ticks.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: I quested, it said I could quest again, I quit, went to bed, woke up, and quested again
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: was that the first quest you completed with the plugin?
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i guess, you have to wait for the updates :) grins
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: I've only done like 5 quests with the plugin installed.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: and that report was from the last one?
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Veni hasn't logged in for ages.  Might have some messages different.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Yes
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: looks like it didn't notice you requesting the quest this morning, so the quest request time variable still had last night's time
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does that plugin need you to input the name of your questor? and if so, did you request at a different one than usual?
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i didnt have the same issue.  im all over different questors 3.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: same plugin balaams gain, and onis qinform
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: I always go to the questor 2e from recall
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's not what noodlez is using
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: qinform is balaams as well
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: oh sorry
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: qinform is not mine.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: hmmmm
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, it's not yours, but you say it replaces qinform
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Where do I say that?
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh sorry, qreporter, not qinform
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: ah, good.  I'm not going crazier than normal.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah, just me glancing at your site
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I checked.  QReporter should work.  GainMonitor there is broken lots on level gains.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: And somewhere in between MC 4.08 and 4.40, GainMonitor started exploding randomly on forgotten mob names.  I've fixed that, but wow is it obnoxious.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: whether gentoox is using the same script then would depend on whether qinform = Quest_inform
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: later gq
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: bah, I'm going home.  I'm annoyed at putting up the old site, and now I need to sort out my scripts again.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Blessed Balaam grumbles and growls. You wonder what's wrong...
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, just glanced at quest_inform, it uses (.*?) for questor, so different one won't matter (funnily enough, it uses ^(.*?) which is just dumb to do though ;-)
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: anchor the line so it has to start with...anything
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharvis Tech: got a question: I jump between the flash client and the MUSHclient(the stand alone one) Is there any way to remove the {stats} prompt without adversly affecting the mushclient?
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: you can turn the stats on and off with teh statmon command
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharvis Tech: thank you
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: the aard mush client will have a few function not working without statmon
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: "tags off" when you go to the flash client.  "tags on" (if it doesn't do it automatically) when you go back to MUSH
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharvis Tech: oh thank you Leinei i was about to ask about the {chan } tag heh
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Searon Tech: actually "tags quiet on" will silence all tags, then toggle it off when you want the tags again
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Searon Tech: not sure if tags off/on does the same thing :P
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: it does
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: gotta love crappy belkin products
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: or not
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: or i could say: Belkin are utter garbage, why on earth do people buy them?
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: oh for a reliable usb printer server
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for a reliable network printer...get a network printer ;-)
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: cost too much
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then get a printer for each machine
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's only used really on one machine
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then why get a print server?
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: printer lives in a different room, next to the router
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then get a really long cable
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: overcomplicating things isn't the solution
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: really long cable won't do, defeats object of wireless, and doesn't exist above 5m
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does so exist above 5m
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: only with repeaters
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: who was it saying not to complicate matters? :-)
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a long cable isn't complicated
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: is if you don't want any
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: put wireless nodes at the end of cables wired through the house into different rooms
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, so a signal booster is complicated, but totally spoofing entire protocols isn't...gotcha
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if it wasn't complicated, they shouldn't have produced products that report to do it
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: print server boxes have existed for decades...and have sucked for decades
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: and why do they suck -- because businesses put up with sucky (?)
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no xyliz, they suck because their sheer existence is wrong
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but idiots decide that they want something that should never exist, so someone's gonna make it for them
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: people are too cheap to buy what they need, so they jerry-rig things instead
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: just a crap broken product, nothing rigged here
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: But some people just don't know what they need, so they buy everything to be safe.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can get laser printers with ethernet for a hundred bucks
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: Trurien - sounds like a woman
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: don't want a laser printer, want to use this photo quality inkjet all in one
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien shrugs helplessly.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: buying a printer that you know isn't meant for network use, and then looking for a box to duct-tape it to the network cannot be described as not knowing what you need
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: such things didn't exist when we got this
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: btw, sorry to disappoint, but "an inkjet photo quality all in one" does decent scans and B&W printing - but that's it
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: does photo quality colour printing
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's jolly good at it, too
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, just depends on where your expectations lie
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: my expectations are such that purchasing a wireless usb all in one print server, it should work
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then again, my last employer had a $50k scanner
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: expecting something to work in the capacity for which it was designed and sold for isn't unreasonable
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tiger, does the maker of the printer have a print server option?
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: the only printer I've seen do real "photo-quality" was a plotter in a professional graphics studio - I'm sure that thing costs well over 10k. The "all-in-one" don't do photo quality, they do "look, this resembles the photo somewhat, happy?"
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no, timeghost, not really, that's a response that makes you sound like you can tell the difference between a one-hour-photo lab, and a decent inkjet printer, when in actuality, you can't
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's nearly as retarded as xyliz and his "analogue music is better quality than digital"
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: and I'm sure you know me enough to judge what I can tell from what :)
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a problem is that ink jet printers don't have a standard for a server box maker to attempt to adhere to...they'll fit in the main HP, epson & canon models, but lexmark's probably iffy
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, analog has the potential to be better quality than digital...but today's technology is insufficient to meet that
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the printer's an epson, this is the second server i've tried. Had a netgear one which worked, but kept crashing mother's laptop and dying half-way through a print
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: digital, by definition, is rounding off the signal/degrading
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Analogue is definitely better than digital.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Analogue as in live music, that is.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: tigernuts is so hearing-impaired (?) and is unable to confirm that "analogue music is better quality than digital" -- sad
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: in the context of joe bloggs at home, it's a completely irrelevant argument, xyliz
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but analog methods of recording in existence today cannot keep the fidelity for generational degradation to meet that which digital reaches
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: translate into dummy-speak please
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yeah, in the long run, digital wins. But analogue is better for short term.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: Abelinc - that's true. BUT Trurien is also correct - all sound by origin is "analogue", digitalisation strips things here and there - that's a loss-of-quality at-source :)
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: better for what?
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: wtfrig is  "fidelity for generational degradation"
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's what I said, TG
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien rapidly nods twice to you, in complete agreement.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I was agreeing :)
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: given the only analogue equipment joe bloggs is likely to have is a tape deck, and that certainly isn't superior to digital
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VCR is better than tape deck...svhs
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: I'm sure we'll have some decent technology replacing digital media though - because IRL nothing's digital, and thus nothing can transfer the reality through digitising it :)
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and we'll have flying cars, too
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Would be nice.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: perhaps, perhaps not - but how did you suddenly go into flying cars from records? :)
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no need to replace digital...just granular to the point of not mattering that it's not analog
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: aspirational technology that will never happen in practice
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: Abelinc - there I disagree :) For the following reason:
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: if I recall college fourier series a sample of 4 times the highest freq is ample to recreate the anologe
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: what's "enough"? Even if you take the average human limits for frequency reception, perhaps in the long run we'll want something that's good enough for other creatures - that'd require way larger frequency ranges.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: storage and copying for analog will never be able to touch digital...as technology for getting better with analog capture/repro increases, so will digital techniques
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: analog-recording retains and supplies far more information than digital recording - and the human-mind is able to recognise and appreciate the extra information that analog supplies yet is missing from the digital-recording 
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so analog's gap will actually fall behind, not catch up
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: not true Zyliz
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: Abelinc - I wouldn't be so sure
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I would :-)
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nogs, xyliz that's nonsense
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: the only real question is "how do you store analogue without digitizing it"
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, that's a doozey
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: quality of sound recording and reproduction with digital is far higher than was possible previously with analogue
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: magnetic tapes aren't the way - but who told you there are no better ways to come? :)
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: and analogue will provide the only valid proof of the conspiracies between the US government, alien life and whatever other group Xyliz doesn't like at the time
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: TG, the issue is that anything better to come for analog can also be used in digital...and will be able to be more successful in digital than in analog
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: no Abelinc, because the tasks are different
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not really, no
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's all data
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: in audio, digital-recording discards information and thus is inferior to analog-recording which keeps fidelity but adds some noise
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: in digital, you're either asking "how many more bits can I store" or "how many more Fourier coefficients can I store"
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: in analogue, you're asking "how can I save the exact vibrations that gave rise to the sound" - VERY different
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in either, you're asking how much more information can I store...bits & transforms are irrelevant
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: sorry folks, agree with abe here
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You gasp as you realize what he did.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in theory analog is better, no question there
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: oh, but they are very relevant - you can store bits encoding something, or you can store the real thing
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: not so again Xyliz.. compress is a possible loss, but at a 80 khz ditital sample you lose 0% of a 20 khz music
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: in audio, the human-mind is already evolved to filter out the noise (but not to supply or imagine the missing information discarded by digitisation-recording)
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: like, hearing live concert records tends to be a PITA in digital
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: why? because a lot of the frequencies are lost
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: human mind stuff is nonsense and not scientific
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, then we have the stupid singers (Cher's "believe") that intentionally over-digitize their voice
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: overdigitized? isn't it because she's old and crap?
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: now, expanding on the frequency range stored is something digital will continue working on - but if there's a breakthrough in finding a medium for storing the REAL sound - no on tape, something completely new - that'd do the trick
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: if you are saying that higher than 20 khz matters then increase the sample rate
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no tigernuts, if you knew the song, you'd know what I mean
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: I know the song, but you probably guessed I'd know Cher
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Remind Hargreaves grins mischievously.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Kanye West overdigitizes
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah TG, that's what a phonograph was attempting to do in a very real way
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: kanye west hates black people
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You fall to the floor laughing at . o O (  ) Habasi's remark.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: He's allowed to, you can't really call him racist for that
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: oh and yes, he overdigitizes as well
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: since when is racism not racism if its your own ppl ?
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: You can call anyone who hates any ethnicity racist, regardless of their own ethnicity.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: That's because no one bothers with ethnicitist :P
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: basing any decisions based on somebodies race, is racist
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I was born a poor little black child...
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: hehe
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: political correctness is a scourge that should be removed from the face of the earth
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Felt: that's overgeneralising.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the human-mind (and animal-mind) is evolved to hear what is actually there (not to imagine false sounds), filtering out the unwanted extraneous noise -- so analog-audio supplies far more usable rl information than digital-audio (which is artificial in that the sound is "truncated" or "approximated" and "not real")
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm not going to have someone tell me what i am and am not allowed to have opinions on
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: tell me how it's wrong :p
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's defining, not generalizing
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Making decisions based on race is discrimination, but not racism.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: isn't that what racism is? discrimination on grounds of race?
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: that is at odds with the observable facts Xyliz
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: if you make any decision based on anybody's race, then it's racism. discrimination is more encompassing
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yes, if you assume discrimination has only a negative connotation.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: do we assume the human brain is analoge?
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: until digital recordings are able to record ALL the analog-audio-informations without any loss or approximation, digital-approximation shall never reach the "quality" of analog
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes myopic
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: how do you do or statements within an if in zmud. Is it | or "or"
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: perhaps assume that the human-mind is not fooled by digital-approximations
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: dude listen hard, the mathmatics are that any analog signal can be reproduced without loss with a sample rate of less than 4 times the sigal frequancy
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: that (bogus-)math is wrong
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: the human brain is fooled by a tree in the dark and thinks it's someone laying in wait, so I can't see why you assume it's so sophisticated it can tell digital recordings from analogue
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not true myopic
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: since there is math that proves that the (bogus-)math is wrong
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: off you go, then
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: digital absolutely loses information, no matter the sampling rate...the question is whether it matters in any real way
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunsele Tech: i don't get it, Myopic...analog doesn't use a sample rate
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: It's a question of whether the information it loses was intelligible to humans in the first place.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and sampling rate is only one way to get better digital...you also need to account for how many bits of any given sample
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xyliz notices the difference between a high-quality analog cassette-tape recording of a vinyl record and the supposed same CD version
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can have a sampling rate of 80MHz, where each of those samples only has fidelity to tell between a 5kHz shift between 20 & 20KHz
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: of course you notice a difference...you just don't understand what the difference means
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the analog version is far more enjoyable and fullfilling than the CD version
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just like people that use the DSP features of receivers to select "concert hall" & such...those are all degrading the signal...but sometimes they DO sound better
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: That said, I'm probably too used to MP3s now...
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: enjoyable is *NOT* the same as more accurate
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xyliz notices that detail is missing in the CD version
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Enjoyable and fulfilling do not have quantifiable mathematical meaning.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, you notice that there is crap added to the cassette version
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: It's just that it's crap you like.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I'm a musician. I've had this argument for a decade with people who argue that tube amps or vinyl sound better.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: They distort the signal, but they do it in a way you like.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xyliz is able to discern the detail in an analog version and then confirm that that detail is missing in the CD version
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Well, it's all about taste, isn't it?
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Exactly, but you shouldn't claim your taste is the one true way. :P
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Maybe Xyliz likes details. I would agree that information is usually lost in a digital recording, but I'm personally probably too used to MP3 now anyway.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the "extra detail" supplied in analog greatly contributes to "enjoyable and fullfilling"
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Perhaps to you, Xyliz, but maybe not to everyone. Some people prefer clearer sounds?
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: It's not extra detail, it's distortion.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: Obviously your concept of "enjoyable and fulfilling" isn't ubiquitous. 
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Even if stuff is somehow noticeably missing.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: also gotta realize that many vinyl albums were recorded digitally even back in the 70s...then they were converted to analog for the record & cassette ;-)
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: a music-addiction craves more and more -- seeks to extract more and more -- and the extra detail and extra information supplies that "fix"
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: whether that more & more existed in the original or not ;-)
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which is where your opinion goes amiss
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: And we all know addiction is rational and adheres to exact science. :P
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: addictions are a fact of life
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Chrome on windows most of the time. Firefox on Linux, because I haven't bothered to compile Chrome here yet :P
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: You happen to have an addiction to a signal that has a certain percentage of noise.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: There's nothing wrong with that, but claiming that it's not so is like a cocaine addict who claims that the stuff he gets is pure and uncut. :P
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WeaponGuy Tech: What if he's a Columbian coke addict?
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: From what I've read Colombians don't get what the big deal is. :P
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: science did analyse drug-addictions, and why the drug-addict seeks stronger purer doses -- but drug-addiction is different to music-addiction
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: If you had a point, I missed it.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WeaponGuy Tech: I guess in the Vietnam war, the GIs could get about anything they wanted for a few cigarettes and a Hershy bar, because they didn't have them, there.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Then again I should know better than to bother talking to you by now.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: So maybe I'm addicted to arguing with morons.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: good practice, there are a lot of us out there
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Lecter's Axiom: You always covet what you don't have. ;)
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: Not having a STD isn't something one would covet.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: well duh, there is no sense coveting what you do have :P
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WeaponGuy Tech: Please tell me you guys aren't having an argument about sound quality and some self-proclaimed audiophile is saying vinyl is the best, because if I hear that tripe from one more weirdo I'm going to puke.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fachtna Tech: no, but it's the action of getting the std that we covet, not the actual having it.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Commence puking.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: and if you look in the mirror, you may sometimes spot a fleeting glimpse of one more
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WeaponGuy Tech: I've given up on vinyl people. If they're convinced they hear superior sound quality, I'm not going to convince them otherwise. It'd be easier to convince a hillbilly that he was not abducted by aliens and that he just made some bad moonshine.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xyliz is waiting for analog-recording to become popular again -- the digital music sounds like unsatisfying crap -- analog-recordings are harder to pirate -- but the recxording industry is both lazy and greedy
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WeaponGuy Tech: True enough. Analog documents are harder to bootleg than digital. Let's all go back to typewriters.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: "vinyl people" -- at least there is more than one of me :)
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keyer Tech: in a vinyl person
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keyer Tech: and im only 20
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Analog recordings are harder to pirate?
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: ?
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WeaponGuy Tech: He means with any clarity, I'm sure.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, the generational degradation catches up pretty quickly
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: For his definition of clarity.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what is "generational degradation"
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: You just pirate it once digitally, and use the dsp plugin of your choice to add analog distortion artifacts to the playback. ;)
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WeaponGuy Tech: Of course, anyone who prefers analog... Their perception of clarity is debatable.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keyer Tech: i notice all my records sound way different in a good way as compared to my digital copies on my computer and such
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: adding false sounds is not going to supply accurate detail
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: exactly, xyliz...and you you prefer the copies with false sounds
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: The sound wasn't there in the studio when the musicians recorded the album. It came afterward as a consequence of being placed on an analog medium. How can you claim it's better that way?
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunsele Tech: i have a pretty nice ameteur recording studio set-up. i have used my eq to convert hundreds of tapes and vinyl records to digital. an analog recording and it's digital conversion, played through the same amp as speakers, are impossible to tell apart. you can only tell them apart after using a computer to remove the tape hiss, rumble, and making other adjustments
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunsele Tech: same amp AND speakers *
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WeaponGuy Tech: Seeing as the bitrate of a CD is vastly higher resolution than the human ear can hear, any perceived quality superiority is purely imagined. You can't argue against analog nuts' imagination. Just leave it. It's a lost cause.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Gunsale: you are not that audio-observant if you are unable to discern a detail difference between analog and digital
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: They're going to claim their thousand dollar gold plated speaker wire allows them to hear the difference between 320kbps 44.1khz MP3 and a CD.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Because it makes them feel better about being stupid enough to buy thousand dollar gold plated speaker wire.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Gunsale: perhaps the analog-version is crap -- do not use a "rusty nail" to play the vinyl
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunsele Tech: analog recordings do sound different because the medium colots them. but even if you buy a cassette tape of your favorite music, it was digital at some point in the mastering studio, i promise you that
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunsele Tech: cause the medium colors them (excuse my spelling)
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the analog-equipment i use is on the cheap-side -- the analog-sounds better than the digital
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: The problem with modern CDs sounding crap has everything to do with mixing, and nothing to do with the source being digital.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sounds better != is more accurately portrayed
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WeaponGuy Tech: Marlboro and the generic equivalent are exactly the same product, in different packaging. Philip Morris freely admits this. Yet, the vast majority of Marlboro smokers will INSIST they can taste the difference. Even in blind tests where they demonstrate they can't tell the difference, they refuse to admit they were wrong.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the analog-equipment i use for playback is often cheap -- the analog-cassette (recorded from vinyl) provides far more discernable detail that the digital CD vesion
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WeaponGuy Tech: See?
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: with expensive-equipment analog playback, the superiority of analog (over digital) is astounding
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: that anybody recommends digital-audio is "baffling"
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you're baffling
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: like they listen to music through earplugs
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: WeaponGuy, were you born after 1985 -- perhaps the digital musics you listen to were never in an analog-version -- thus you never were able to do a comparison between analog and digital of the exact same music recording
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: How's it possible for the same exact discussion to still be going on. Heh. 
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: Without variation, even.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: talent
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: Perhaps he's a digital recording.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: does anyone remember the format for doing an "or" in an if statement mine does not want to work properly. it's for an alias
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: I am making a speedwalk script and certain speedwalks have to either use the clan portal, or amulet portal
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: #IF ((omething = "foo") | (omething = "bar") | ... | ... | (omething = "baz")) {Then...} {Else...}
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: if ((blah) <(^_^)> (blah)) in kirby i believe
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: @something, rather. :)
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: #if (%1=  {x|y|z}) {enter amulet} {}
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: that is what i keep trying
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: #if (%1= ~ {x|y|z}) {enter amulet} {}
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: You could use %regex() for that
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: #if (%ismember(%1, x|y|z)) {}
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: it works in triggers but not in an alias for some reason
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: or is x|y|z first, i forget
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Because trigger matching is based on regular expressions.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Whereas ZMud statements use Zugg's irregular expressions :P
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: It's 5:30am, do you know where your stack pointer is?
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I know where it is, but not how fast it's going.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hebe Tech: i can't put my songs triggers for mushcilent, it's wav but my songs are wmp. is there a way?
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: when using robocopy with default options, if your destination (usb drive) runs out of space, will it wait for you to stick another one in and then continue copying?
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mocky Tech: In Mushclient, I set my chats all to go to the chat window and disabled blank lines and it works great except one thing - the Curse channel does not omit from my main window.  Quick fix?
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I want to make a regexp to separate "run-able" directional strings from things like "enter whatever" or socials or says where you should prepend run. Anyone have any clue how I'd construct a regexp to match numbers, and the six directional letters in any order?
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: s/should/shouldn't/
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Is there any good reason 57602 would return something totally different than what's in the mapper? Hovering over the current room shows 41218, but 57602 returns 57602
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Is there any good reason %roomnum would return something totally different than what's in the mapper? Hovering over the current room shows 41218, but %roomnum returns 57602
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hebe Tech: i need the msg that shows up every gq for a trigger. anyone has it?
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Anyone know how to get the health status bar working in MUSHclient in Wine on Linux? Mine comes up with symbols, not text. Tried changing the font to DejaVu Sans Mono or Courier in the script but no joy.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: had the same problem myself -- you can sort of see what the health is
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: thanks for the reply, I'll probably just turn it off then, the stats display gives me the same info anyway
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corvinus Tech: anyone know why MUSH client causes my enter key to get stuck and my mouse to freeze?
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: because god hates you
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Stupid Thunderchief Tech: you're downloading too much porn
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corvinus Tech: wow a whole channel of smarta**es, imagine that....
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Stupid Thunderchief Tech: sorry
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: i'm not
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Stupid Thunderchief Tech: I've actually never used the client
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: Ok, under MUSH what would be causing the ticks to show up on my screen. I recently added moonbot (moon:tick does not effect the gag) and removing broadcast_tick had no effect.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: removed moonbot and its still ticking on my screen :(
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: which tech?
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: time to tick:xx?
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: --> TICK <--
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: really, that doesn't work anymore?
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: --> TOCK <--
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: --> TOCK <--
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: xbroadcasttick?
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: fail
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: well if ticks don't affect any of your scripts you can just turn it off mudside with autotick
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: then the moonbot won't work.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: sorry, I was botting iaw
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: when you installed the moonbot it prolly turned them on
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: sure turned ME on
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: autotick did it, thank you
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: --> TOE <--
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: that was driving me mad
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, fedraz...note balaam's comment that moonbot won't work reliably without autotick
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: but now the moons script wont work
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: it's based on ticks
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: I am fine with that
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: he removed moonboot
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: well he might want it
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: I only installed it as a novelty, I dont do enchanting so do not think I really need to know the moons
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're good with it then no prob :-)
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: you can always make a simple trigger to gag the ticks
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: moonbot already has that trigger, but it does not seem to be working.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a good idea to leave the MUSHclient's autotick that gives a countdown timer in the lower corner of the window though
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: ya that I still have
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but the MUSHclient autotick doesn't need autotick
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since it gets ticks from elsewhere that you'll never see, but will always work
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: hmm...it'd prolly be possible to make the moonbot work with that then instead of the mudside autotick
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes it would
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but none of the current moonbots use it
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because they were all written before it was possible
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Eh, I can poke at it.  Never used the telopts things before, though.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't need to use the telopts so much as use what the tick already gets
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: erm...  what?
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the telopt trigger for tick is already there, you just need to know when it hits
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the same way you shouldn't be writing a trigger to use statmon stuff
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because that part is already done
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: so you are saying that instead of using telopt, I should use telopt...  yeah, that makes sense.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, I'm saying that the part about USING telopt is already written and installed
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you shouldn't be writing anything for that
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: the mush autotick script in the bottom corner uses telopts
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: so just add the moons part to that trigger
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Myrmidon Myrkul.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I have no autotick script in the bottom corner of anything.  I don't use the Aard client.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: no need to write a second trigger with the same pattern
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: well you can download that plugin separately
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's your failure ;-)
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: And I do not rely on other plugins for my plugins.  That would be silly.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it's silly to not use meta-plugins which were written to do nothing other than be used by other plugins
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: the idea of plugins is to be self contained.  I like that plan.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, the idea of plugins is not to be self-contained
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since the guy that wrote MUSHclient seems to disagree with you
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: You _can_ have them use other plugins due to a broadcast.  However, try accessing another plugin's internal variables.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as he wrote a bunch of plugins expressly to do the work for other plugins
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: simple
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's why he wrote them that way
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Great Abelinc, get cracking on writing the scripts.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'll access statmon variables from another plugin constantly...
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mathoran Tech: Modular programming isn't exactly a new concept
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's exactly what the plugin was written for
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: info xStats_detector...Detects and processes the {stats} tag, for the benefit of other plugins.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oops, for the benefit of other plugins, look at that
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: This is all fine.  I write my scripts my way, you can deal with it your way, or quit your random whining.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you write your plugins to be inefficient and hog resources, we get it :-)
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Abelinc, provide a better script.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I won't get insulted.  I will probably use it.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i dont think youll rewrite 'sed' so just you shells script will independent
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the script is fine, you'd need to change like 2 lines to make it great :-)
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Then change the two lines.  Get cracking!
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure, I'll do it next weekend if you haven't yet :-)
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: it's just two lines.  Do it now.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm busy writing things for a client I actually use ;-)
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: then quit whining about a client you don't.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm not whining about a client, the client is great
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: ok, then quit whining in general.  Either do better, or stop.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: enhancing a script by reinventing the wheel and making most people who would run the script have 2 triggers for the exact same function is silly
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I already said I'll do better if you decide to code badly
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: pathetic...  can't even "just change two lines" like you said... it is all so easy.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, it is easy
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: but hey, feel free to continue complaining about other people.
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: i'm not at your beck and call, and you've done jack squat during the same time that I've done jack squat
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you're as pathetic as you're claiming
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: take your little bitchfest to tells or something, nobody gives a crap
T1/r7/2009-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You give Felt a long and passionate kiss, it seems to last forever...
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emir Icebergovich Tech: anyone here using zmuds automapper?
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir points excitedly at Ozzy!
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: anyone know what teh default font is for firefox, i changed it to times new roman and its buggind me
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: My default is times new roman, maybe you changed the size?
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Anyone running CMud 3.10b? I'm still on 3.08b and wondering if I should upgrade, but reports that it CTDs every time you use #FIND kind of scare me.
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: i had huge issues with 3.10
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: went back to 3.08
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I haven't had issues with it yet... :P
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Kind of sucks, because 3.08b expires in 3 days.
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I don't use #FIND either, though.
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: #find #look crash cmud, i crash on startup (enough tries i can get to sessions)
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I didn't have #LOOK crash CMUD, and I used it just recently.
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: One of the #FIND crash reports was Vista x64, which is what I'm using, so I'm wary. Ugh, I guess there's no way to know unless you try, because god forbid a program that crashes should crash in a consistent way. :P
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus snickers with Obyron about their shared secret.
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Yeah, 3.10 is completely worthless.
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Does anyone have the installer for 3.08 that can email it to me? For some reason I deleted it.
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Unless there's a way to download old betas on the website?
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: you can just take the link for the 310 version and change it to 308
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Ah, thanks :)
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: if I'm unhappy with the speed of drand48, any ideas for a faster uniform random number generator?
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: is there a fast alternative to floating-point-to-integer conversions via truncation? the intel compiler specifies that the (fast and default) is rounding, but I need truncation - which is pretty slow apparently
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: i.e. C standard (truncation) is what I need, fast (not C standard) is rounding...
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fact or Fiction Tech: anybody availeble to help me out i got an new graf card and my resolutio wont go higher then 640 by 480 even with new windows installed
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mocky Tech: Do you have the drivers installed?
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mocky Tech: for the card, that is
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: did you run the cd that should have come with the card?
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fact or Fiction Tech: yup newest once from nvidia and its the en9500 gt geforce from asus
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mocky Tech: stupid question that needs to be asked - are you sure that it's plugged into the card and not the onboard video?
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fact or Fiction Tech: im 100% sure first thing i lookt at turned onboard off
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fact or Fiction Tech: only switch from a radeon card that whas working to a geforce
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fact or Fiction Tech: only switch from a radeon card that whas working to a geforce
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fact or Fiction Tech: oeps
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mocky Tech: hate saying this cause I'm no good with over-the-phone or over-the-mud troubleshooting but there's a possibility the card was doa
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fact or Fiction Tech: hmm the weird thing is without the driver and can change the resolution with the drivers it wont change it
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mocky Tech: before you installed the drivers it let you do it?  that is weird
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I'm trying to remember how you reference the value of a database variable in Z/Cmud directly. I know that @dbvar.1 will show you the name of the first key, but I need the value of that key.
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I mean, %db(@dbvar,1) is obvious, but it's indirect.
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mocky Tech: id keep playin around with it fiction, maybe someone else can help further, uninstall/reinstall the drivers and ensure your radeon drivers are uninstalled as well
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: isn't it @dbvar.keyname
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fact or Fiction Tech: i reinstalled windows and it still doing it :)
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: What if the key is more than one word?
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mocky Tech: you went as far as reinstalling windows?  yikes
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fact or Fiction Tech: yup
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: I don't know if it will work, but bvar.{I am a key} possibly with quotes, might do it
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fact or Fiction Tech: done all the basic stuff with reinstalling and deleting and stuff didnt work
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: err @dbvar.{I am a key}
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fact or Fiction Tech: off windows and installed a fresh version
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mocky Tech: i'd make 100% sure i've got the right driver for the right os, and if so, maybe go back and reinstall the old radeon drivers and see if you can still adjust the resolution with the wrong drivers
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: Otherwise, you may have to use the indirect method of %db(@dbvar, "I am a key")
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Yeah, that's what I'm coming up with. Thanks. :)
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fact or Fiction Tech: i used the drivers from the cd at start didnt work 
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fact or Fiction Tech: with the radeon driver on the comp didnt work either
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mocky Tech: did you go to nvidia's website and download (maybe) newer drivers?
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fact or Fiction Tech: already done that too
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mocky Tech: doesn't sound good
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fact or Fiction Tech: i know 
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fact or Fiction Tech: at first i whas what im doing wrong but its not me
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: REALLY weird. what OS ver? I'll check with a tech friend of mine and see if he's heard anything similar...
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: I hade a Rad that need AGP 2.0 and my motherboard was AGP <2, mother is the word
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fact or Fiction Tech: windows xp sp2 pce express
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: you should update to SP3. ;)
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fact or Fiction Tech: i wil when i have a legal version of it:P
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mocky Tech: you wouldn't happen to have a second computer laying around you could test it in eh?
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fact or Fiction Tech: nope i can take it to my brothers place
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mocky Tech: I'd suggest it, just to make sure
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fact or Fiction Tech: i will tell him :)
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fact or Fiction Tech: thanks for the help mocky
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mocky Tech: np, sorry I couldn't offer more
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fact or Fiction Tech: no biggy maby its still a defect card
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: Erm...whenever I type spellup it won't spellup...
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: So, anyone here run zmud under wine?
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: Can someone who uses cmud's package feature send me a tell have a few questions. :) 
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: anyone up to earn some TPs with batch file creation
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: or vb creation
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: always so dead anymore
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: what's up?
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Which client?
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: no client, either batch or vbs
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: i'm out
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: way out.
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: So gone
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: Heh, I haven't coded in that in ages.
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: could you do it in perl?
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: technically anything i can run on an xp box
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: i guess compiled it doesnt matter
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: need to monitor a single directory and upon change copy files to another location
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: cron + diff?
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why not just use something like synctoy?
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Or are we talking dos?
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: preferably which could be ran in background - hidden
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: right now just using a batch file with xcopy few switches and to run at certain times
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: but would prefer one to do it upon filechange
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: huck, use /D and /I with xcopy
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: /D says if source is newer than destination (modified)
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: yea thats what im doin for now
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: but kinda lookin for one that runs constant
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: for some reason they dont turn off logs, they just say things then delete certain ones lol
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: need to have this resolved for HR
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: heh - gotta love sheisty people at work
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Is there some crazy black magic I have to do to make portalenable work in CMud?
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Any tt users online atm?
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: greetings all, does anyone know if there are scripts for cmud to pull out the small and big maps and the stat window like in the new mushclient?
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try fiendish's zmud scripts...probably not much would need to be changed for cmud
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're not comfortable modifying scripts yourself, you'll be much happer on zmud than cmud
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: thanks, i'll search google
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: i've mudded before, but am new to this one
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: www.not-porn.com
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no need to search google...finger fiendish
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: i used to write my own scripts for another mud but lost them all over a couple year absence, so i'm fine with editing, just a couple things are different in cmud
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: tintin ftw
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, tt has crap for publicly-posted scripts :P
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: well, hmm, anyone wanna try to debug a one line trigger?
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Any AS3 guru's out there?
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: here's a dumb question, my GPU seems to have problems with shaders on games like oblivion, horribly framerate and it stutters so you get like 5fps while it stutters but it seems to render everything ok
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: tried a new graphics driver version and it didn't improve/change the situation at all
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: my card alledgedly support 2.0 shaders however
T1/r7/2009-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: so is there something else that could cause the problem?  oblivion has a nice GPU debug mode and it doesn't seem to be testing my video card's limits much, nor my ram, etc. nothing another game has the same stuttering issue as well
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: does alt+255 always display as a blank space ?
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: on this mud, yes...
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus tickles a dust devil called Habasm.
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus whistles appreciatively.
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Galirawin Tech: I think alt+255 should display as y with 2 dots on it, but it also introduces telnet sequences so it is probably disabled for that reason
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: zmud accepts 
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: but zmud does not send to the mud  
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: hrm, need a silent but reasonable gfx card
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduka Tech: If I wanted to for instance do like ^You receive (.*?) experience points\.$, (In Lua) would I be able to script the trigger to do Exp_Gained = Exp_Gained + %1?
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: assuming you are using MUSHclient, that is exactly how you would do that.
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduka Tech: I totally guessed how to do it. And thank you.
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: well, "^You receive (\d+) experience points?\.$"
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: sure, do SetVariable("Exp_gained",math.floor(@exp_gained + %1))
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduka Tech: what is (\d+)?
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Matches digits only.
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: \d is [0-9], any digit.
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduka Tech: Sorry, just totally started messing with this.
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Lua is a tough one to jump into
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: tell me about it lol
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: It is based around/on so many other things
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Lua is a lot easier to jump into than other languages.
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: who'd want to speculate on the comparative performance of a 256Mb Geforce 7800GTX to a 1Gb Geforce 9500GT?
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: even messing with already working things is annoying, if it were C++ it'd make way more sense to me
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Really? Personally i found it the toughest to learn
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Blessed Balaam points at perl.
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduka Tech: Well, I mess with vb.net and vb a lot. So it's not too bad.
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: I prefer, overall, the scripting language used by tt,cmud, adn zmud
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: and*
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: lua makes no inherent sense to me, probably has a lot to do with the lack of punctuation/pedantic things lua wants
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: just upgraded from 7600gt to 9600gt. cost me 10 euros
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: The way i really learned how to code Lua was writing mobprogs, making script was just an after-affect
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduka Tech: I'm slowly getting this.I've just been tearing apart other addons and guessing
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: When I was only trying to script for Mush i had trouble, a few mobprogs later it was a cakewalk
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ode is drooling over something yummy.
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduka Tech: Would it be better to start with something smaller? Perhaps an autosipper that tracks how many drinks I've taken?
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Another good way to do it, it to script it then have it send output to a wordpad, then you can debug it by what it is /trying/ to output
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: That would be a bit easier, you would just have to SetVariable("Sipped",math.floor("@Sipped + 1")
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: I found the easiest way to do a math function is to set a local
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduka Tech: do I need to declare my varibles before I use them?
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: The @ symbol will declare you variable, unless you use a local then you use .. localname ..
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduka Tech: so I don't need to do like "Dim This as This"
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Nope
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduka Tech: Oh this is sexy.
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I don't understand the point of that though.  Can't you just have a Lua variable update, and then use SetVariable to update off the lua variable?
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: There is usually no reason to update a MC variable unless you get frequent crashes.
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: erm... no reason to update it that often, rather.
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduka Tech: wait, if declares the variable then why do you declare it again as you update it?
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduka Tech: wait, if @ declares the variable then why do you declare it again as you update it?
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduka Tech: How do I pull that date in lua? Keep in mind, I'm not sure how linux would be storing it.
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: os.time
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduka Tech: returns both date and time?
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: GetInfo(304) also shows the current date.  And it is not sandboxed ever.
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduka Tech: With mushclient, how would you track a wildcard that could possibly be more than one word. For Example: " You buy a wooden spear from A ShopKeepeR for 100 gold. " Wooden Spear is two words, but some are only one, some are four but they always change, how would you track it?
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: You buy * from * for * gold. 
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduka Tech: that easy?
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Why not? :P
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduka Tech: just seemed, nevermind.
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Yay. Yahoo sells out.
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: At the corporate level, Microsoft and Yahoo have reportedly agreed on a search and advertising partnership, potentially raising their joint search share to 25 percent of the market. What users will notice, however, is Yahoo switching to Bing's search engine.
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: most people wouldn't know the diff
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods at Tigernuts.
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharvis Tech: I appologize for asking this question again a day later, but i've forgotten, how do you turn off the {chan} and {stat} tags(well all of em heh) without affecting mushclient?
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Tags quiet or tags off.
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharvis Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: But you'll have to turn them back on when you use MUSH again.
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharvis Tech: it automatically does it i think
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Probably. I haven't dealt with it much.
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Is there any way to install Nero Wave Editor without actually installing Nero?
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: install GoldWave
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: it works great
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, that would be installing goldwave editor, not nero wave editor...
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: this is true, but it would work without installing the bundle
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it wouldn't work for the requested result
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: point taken
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if soliciting recommendations for other editors, audacity is free
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: OSS for the win
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: always proving me wrong - :)
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not wrong so much as badly worded ;-)
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: so anyone know how to monitor filechange at a constant rate
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: offering some tps for some help
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: how about tripwire
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: preferably via command line, or vbs script
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: anyone know how to create a batch file that runs without a window   similar to start /B for a batch file?
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: try this http://www.winhelponline.com/blog/run-bat-files-invisibly-without-displaying-command-prompt/ found on google
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: actually bat to exe converter on cnet has an option to run invisible
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saric Tech: is it possible to temporarily turn off the mushclient text that gets dumped into the main window when using another client?
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type tags off
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saric Tech: much better, thanks a lot
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not MUSHclient text, it's MUD text meant to be used by scripts...if you put scripts that use those tags into your other client, the scripts will hide the text like MUSHclient did
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saric Tech: oh.. I knew the scripts could be applied to other clients but I don't know how =(
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: download ones that other players have made & posted is the best way :-)
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fiendish and danj have some for zmud, davos has some for cmud (cmud also has a button for a script repository)
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I have some for tinyfugue
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saric Tech: thanks... I'll start looking for one that runs on a mac
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're not a real geek, MUSHclient is about the best thing to run on a Mac
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saric Tech: mushclient doesn't run on non-intel macs
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it will using virtualPC, just not with parallels/fusion/virtualbox/wine...haven't run it on my PPC Macs, though, since I use tinyfugue as my client
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: Does anyone use Fiendish's channel capture script?
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: I have yes
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thayaric Tech: hmmm just upgraded mush to the latest version. Seems now my plugin windows all have extraneous text entry boxes on them. How do i rid my plugins of the unneeded text entry boxes. The old version I used didn't have these
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: thayaric, you can use the bar just above the input box to drag it down to the bottom of the window
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: Does anyone use Fiendish's channel capture script?
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: Or any channel capture script?
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: yes I responded earlier lol
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stigon Tech: can some one guide me on using my phone as a modem
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stigon Tech: whats profile for
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: whats a good free downloadable version of linux for someone who has never used linux before for an old ass laptop
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: no linux users out there?
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: eh?
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no, it's rubbish
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: install windows 98 instead
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: nah, i want to learn linux
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: how old is old?
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Unhelper] Morinon Tech: Mac OS is now linux-based.
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i haven't even booted it yet, i think it's got windows 98 on it... so pretty old
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: so not that old... download the "mini" version of ubuntu
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: does it give you the option to format?
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: schweet
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: which one is the "mini" ubuntu.. im lookin at the website now
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garezunto Tech: Question.  I have the AardMUSH client, and would like to reduce the text size of JUST the chats window.  Could someone please explain how?  I already have the main aardwolf text size turned down
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bring that window into focus
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: every window that's used in that is technically its own "world
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then game -> configure -> output
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: right click on chats window-> select world configuration 
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garezunto Tech: Aaaah, alright. thanks abe, and thanks for that tip ode
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i.e. there could be 6 muds running so each window has its own set of options associated with it...make sure your active window (by clicking on it) is chats   then it should be in the options somewhere
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garezunto Tech: Yup yup, I see that ode. thanks guys
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garezunto Tech: I'm sure this might be obvious... is there a way to "refresh" a window so the wordwrap change takes effect?
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atlacatl Itzcoliuhqui Tech: I'm using the Aard Mushclient, is there any way to gag output from the Chat window? I've tried in both the chat and main windows, it will only work in the main one though.
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I'd imagine, since it's a separate window, you'd have to create new plugins for the window.
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: That's how it works in CMUD, anyway. Any child windows have their own set of triggers.
T1/r7/2009-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Atlacatl Itzcoliuhqui is doooooomed.
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: Does anyone know where to get the aardwolf plugins for mushclient as a standalone package?
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: check the aard webpage, i think there are a few things listed there
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/mushclient/plugins/Aardwolf/
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: Thanks.
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduka Tech: Do my global variables I declare in my script section need to update on world connect?
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Anyone have much familiarity with Virtualbox?
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i have some experience with virtualbox
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: its a little though :)
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Every had any unforseen issues with it? Been messing with vmware lately, just wondering how it compares
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: its a bit slow and process hungry compared to vmware
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Mmmmm drats.
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: also my net gets slow when using virtual box with just getting updates from ubuntu, compared to downloading tons of videos and mp3 with no virtualbox. its very noticeable when mudding.
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: strange
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i have 2gig of ram, T7100 intel, and X3100 graphics
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: what was the host os?
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: tried it with vista xp and gentoo, installed the guest addons on vista and xp.
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i only twiddled with ubuntu/debian guest with all of them
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yargh. Well, Any idea if they ever got Exchange 2007 support any any of the linux email clients?
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i dont know about those,  but applications seems to be working normally.  i saw my coworker played conqueronline on his virtualbox guest. he has same issues, net connection is slow on host, but great on the box
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: TLDR just really looking for a way to synch my blackberry, and access exchange server from linux without resorting to the web access
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i see.  i dont have any experience on those sorry
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ahhh alright. Thanks
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: whois tanqu
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus wants to know why his wireless card forces the computer to lock up when installing the drivers, then comes back with 'Windows was unable to load any drivers.' even though it's worked before. *sigh*
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: heh wanna explain why my graphics card can't do what its supposed to do? lol
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sandmann Tech: maybe it's broken now
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sandmann Tech: still under warranty?
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Card isn't broken. :P
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: The drivers just won't install for it.
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Every time it tries to install the drivers, the computer freezes up.
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sandmann Tech: that sounds like the drivers are trying to use some part of the card that doesn't work
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sandmann Tech: if it's not that you should find an older or newer drive
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sandmann Tech: if it's not that you should find an older or newer driver
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sandmann Tech: see if it works then
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Tried both. *sigh*
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduka Tech: o.o [string "Trigger: "]:9: '=' expected near 'TotalDmg'
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduka Tech: So Note sends it to your output window, how would I send it to say a tell?
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: cna't tell self, but you can madify your chat window to include notes
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: You can page yourself, though.
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduka Tech: I just need to find a listing of all the possible ways to send it places. I'm assuming it's something within mushclient itself.
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: The chat window plugin in mush, file > plugins > click it and modify it and put your script there
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduka Tech: won't work. That was in vbscript.
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Anyone plays Warcraft on Linux? Or, specifically, DoTA?
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Anyone knows how to handle .bin and .cue files in Linux?
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: From a DVD?
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: That, or two CD images.
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I'm trying out the bchunk package on Debian.
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Seems to be working fine.
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Anyone have alternative ideas, though?
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: trurien, can use cdemu to mount, or can turn to iso using bchunk...you can use the mount command to mount isos
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yup, just converted some ISOs using bchunk. Trying them out later. :) Thanks!
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stigon Tech: im usin my phone as a modem but its taking like R2 every 15 seconds how do i make it cheaper
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: get a different plan...
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stigon Tech: like what i cant seem to do anything else i use vodacom vlive still takes R2
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stigon Tech: tech heads please help
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dunno what else you're looking for...subscribe to an unlimited data plan if you intend to use your phone for data
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atlacatl Itzcoliuhqui Tech: I'm trying to send messages that don't have tags to my chat window (like the Dtell channel) the sound trigger attached to the messages works and it shows a space when it's sent to the window, but the text doesn't show up. Anyone have any suggestions?
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does your usual chat capture start with a "gag the beginning because of the tags" command?
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make that command more stringent in what it is declaring to be the tag
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atlacatl Itzcoliuhqui Tech: Not sure, this is the Aard Mushclient chat window. It just has the tag at the beginning in the trigger.
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to fiendish's site, he has a corrected plugin
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the original one wouldn't display channels that are all white
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Atlacatl Itzcoliuhqui goes ooOOooOOoo.
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and would even miss auction lines if the item would explicitly display all white
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: starts with white
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atlacatl Itzcoliuhqui Tech: Alrighty, I'll try that. Thanks!
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he also has a bigmap plugin that is much more efficient/less jumpy, but it requires a slightly newer version of MUSH
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atlacatl Itzcoliuhqui Tech: Seems like there is something wrong with that plugin, or I'm not doing it right.
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i dont have issues with that plugin, whats your trigger?
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: but we already know your trigger works
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atlacatl Itzcoliuhqui Tech: The one from Fiendish?
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: after installing fiendish's the text output of your trigger still wont work right?
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atlacatl Itzcoliuhqui Tech: I saved it and it looks like a mess in notepad.
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atlacatl Itzcoliuhqui Tech: That plugin won't work at all.
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: huh?
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: oh, notepad does that, try wordpad, but did you try installing it at all?
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atlacatl Itzcoliuhqui Tech: Hold on, retrying with wordpad.
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atlacatl Itzcoliuhqui Tech: I did, wouldn't work :P
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what makes you think it wouldn't work?
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and did you just click on it and then do save as, or did you right-click and do save target as?
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atlacatl Itzcoliuhqui Tech: It gives me an error. I right clicked and saved as, when I click on it, it gives me an error too.
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your browser is supposed to give you an error
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atlacatl Itzcoliuhqui Tech: Opened it in wordpad and it looked ok, copied that into a notepad file and it does the same thing. :(
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why are you opening it or copying it?
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: you dont need notepad or any of those editors at all
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just save it. then add it.
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atlacatl Itzcoliuhqui Tech: It doesn't work if I just save + add it.
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are you selecting the MUSHclient plugin, or his chats script for zmud?
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atlacatl Itzcoliuhqui Tech: I'm trying the Aardwolf_chats.xml
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, actually don't add it. reload
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you could not add it because you already have a plugin with that ID
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you replace the one with the other, then reload
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GentooX claps at Abergard's performance.
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and when trying to add a plugin gives an error, close the plugin window...that will leave you with a window that actually tells you what the error is
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: knowing the error helps, and if what I just described was the issue we would've known immediately by the unique ID message
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atlacatl Itzcoliuhqui Tech: It tells me -  Line   91: Error parsing script (problem in this file) then I try. I do remove the other plugin too.
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: line 91 is <script>...nothing wrong there
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: for some reason it is issuing an error on me too
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: brb have to eat.
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: @Itzcoliuhqui try saving it in your plugins/aardwolf folder, i think thats the error, it cant see the telnet options.lua
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: brb eat
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atlacatl Itzcoliuhqui Tech: Hmm, ok.
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: of course that's where you should be saving it...that's where the original one is
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's designed as a drop-in replacement
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, explains why it "just works" when I replace it though ;-)
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atlacatl Itzcoliuhqui Tech: Ok, now that plugin works.
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atlacatl Itzcoliuhqui Tech: Now I have to edit the triggers to put what I want in.
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Atlacatl Itzcoliuhqui sighs.
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atlacatl Itzcoliuhqui Tech: Thanks anyway.
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharvis Tech: if i wanted to create an 'alias' for "cast 393 target" what is the best way to do that?
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharvis Tech: assuming i have the aardwolf mushclient
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: What client?
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: cntrl + Shift + 9
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or game -> configure -> aliases
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd do it just in the MUD & not client-side though
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharvis Tech: i know how to get to the menu, its setting it up that confuses me
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduka Tech: well, you could also just do it on aard itself alias <alias> <c 393>
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharvis Tech: wait... you can set aliases in the MUD?
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduka Tech: minus the <>
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the top is what you want to type...the giant box is what you want it to do
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharvis Tech: thats sweet
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: alias hf c 393
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharvis Tech: ok but holy fury requires a target is there something i can put in as a "Variable" persay for the target?
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharvis Tech: because its a nice opener in my opinion
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: In your client use @variablename
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: cntrl + Shift + 7 to get to variables
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'll take a target just fine
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no need to use a variable
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: If you do mudside you don't need a variable
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharvis Tech: oooo so when i create the alias i can just type in hf beetle and it wiill work
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharvis Tech: AMAZING!
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: wait so how do you do this?
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: The mud is very intuitive
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you do clientside you also don't need a variable
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and wouldn't use @variable
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduka Tech: can also read help alias for more info
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharvis Tech: thats insane thank you so much
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to use client-side, you'd use %1 for the variable, but would need to write the alias such that it would match with and without the target
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharvis Tech: ehh forget that, why bother with the client side when u can do it server side
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharvis Tech: especially when I switch clients heh
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, for attack & healing spells, it's very convenient to use MUDside aliases
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: so how does he manage to target whatever without needing to type the target
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can have 40...but you don't need to have an alias for every attack you get...just one per main damtypes
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharvis Tech: oh i still have to type the target
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: oh i thought some mumbo-jumbo was going on lol nvm 
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharvis Tech: which dosent bug me that much
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharvis Tech: it was the cast 393 <target> heh
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharvis Tech: long thing, took too long to type
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but you only want to type the target to start a fight...then you don't want a target
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: oh you can certainly make that easier 
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so hf guard, then just a bunch of hf hf hf
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharvis Tech: yup, course im 2 shotting things without them touching me heh
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: Yeah... I have an alias, atk <target> which I update when I get a stronger attack spell... and also update element specific attack aliases like, Wind <target>, Energy <target>, Damn <target> (for negative damage... the spell is called Damnation so meh)
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: that's a good idea 
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: Always nice to have diffrent attack types at your disposel. ^_^
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: that's basically what Abelinc said a while ago...
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: Really?
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: [30 Jul 23:35:57] Abelinc Tech: you can have 40...but you don't need to have an alias for every attack you get...just one per main damtypes
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: I see. Personally I don't use variables for the spell aliases. I just update them manually. (miss-channel)
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: Now, I do see a reason for variables when something requires a swap on a much more regular basis. But otherwise, I just don't see a point.
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, since it started with cure light...my heal alias is cl...I'll just re-alias that according to the heal spell I use in a given level range
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: variables are awesome
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: Heh, I don't even use my heal spells. I use 'heal' to take a pot from my bag, then quaff it.
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: Same deal for mana.
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I have a script to use potions
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: /heal and /mana do those
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and update my statusbar potion counter
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduka Tech: So you can script it quaff potions?
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: Yeah. Very easily.
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduka Tech: Hummm. I think I might have to redo my current setup. Then again, right now it's just done with a 2 aliases.
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: /def heal = /if (effective_level>=20 & effective_level<30) /heal20 %; /elseif (effective_level>=30 & effective_level<40) /heal30 %; /elseif (effective_level>=40 & effective_level<60) /heal40 %; /elseif (effective_level>=60) /heal60 %; /endif
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Bot.
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: Just put 'heal' in the alias, then for the output, put 'take <pot> <container>' (newline) 'quaff <pot>'
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: Or use Abelinc's huge script... I prefer the simple approach myself. (miss-channel... AGAIN!)
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, my script also knows where to get the potions at the various levels, so /getmana goes to the appropriate clanshop, buys some & puts them into the potionsbag
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: of course updating the counter in the process
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: L33tM4st3r Lashan nods.
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: I've been using the same level 27 healing pot from the Canyon Hospital since... level 27! XD
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: umm, eww?
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: L33tM4st3r Lashan gasps as he realizes what Riasiru did.
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: They heal 450hp per pot, so it's not half bad for a level 27 potion. ^_^
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: They also only cost 168 gold each, and I can buy them in the 100s!! ON THE CHEAP!!
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, a con-based heal
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: Bingo! ^_^
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: I have great Con, so it makes sense to use that pot. XD
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: oh, right the nature's touch ones...yeah, useful for a while yet
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: I'm starting to think about going to something stronger... buuuuuht, the expense... the expense... and I spend so much on mana as it is. >_<'
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for cheap heals, 3xheal potion from goblin fortress is about 1/2 the bang per buck that clan 4xheals are
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: Weight/Price is the real issue. 
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: price is where the elixer is good
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: The Canyon potions weigh less, cost less. I figure I'm beating the ratio of HP vs. W*P with Canyon Pots over Clan pots.
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: weight kinda doesn't matter as much, item count becomes more important 
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's why I didn't suggest clan pots ;-)
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: Yeah, but I'm no where near the bag capacity of 1500 with a normal load of 100, 150 pots per level session.
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: weight can't be beat with the canyon ones...whether the elixer or canyon one is better deal would depend on wis vs con
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: get injured, quaff one of each, subtract to see the HPs returned, divide
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: Hmm, not a bad idea.
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it helps to carry some clan 4xheals for emergency use, but still use cheap heals for normal levelling
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: yeah i only switch to clan stuff much later gameload pots are very good if you know where to look
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: Anyone know a good clan for HP pots at level 140? I'll test the whole ratio if I find a nice sample pot.
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: i just use the dominion pots from 60 to infinty
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: generally quad heals are the best.  And they are 960 gold each.  Level doesn't matter for those.
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, heal spell is based on wis, not level, so level 60 is what to get
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: wiat i take that back, if i ever get enough hp to use them well id brew my own incomplete healing pots
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: Ok, sample clan pot. Price, 960. Weight, 13.
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: I'll have how much it heals in a moment.
T1/r7/2009-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, I brew incompletes as well
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: I'll wait for tick to make sure it doesn't catch me mid quaff.
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: 3360-2464=...
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: I already know I've beaten it... big time.
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, clanheals aren't a good deal, that's what i said...but they'd be good to carry for when a MOB is hurting you faster than the natures touch is returning
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: I'll admit that.
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: yeah, you'll run into a few of those mobs, but not many..
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: But honestly, if they're hurting you that fast, you need to FLEE
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not if you're also hurting the target
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: Clan Pot hp900 G960 Wt13 vs. Canyon Pot hp450 168 Wt168
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: Clan Pot hp900 G960 Wt13 vs. Canyon Pot hp450 G168 Wt168 (Blah, messed up the first one. >_<')
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: canyon weights 1
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, cost 160 & weight 1 ;-)
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: still screwed it up. XD
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: But yeah, half the hp for MUCH lower price, and great weight.
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: what clan pot you using jade?
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I think weight is rarely a limiting factor, so much as quantity....
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're all the same
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: I was using Bard, though.
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: 600 gold lost per pot does add up but yeah depends how fast you burn through them
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: well jades are 960 too lol
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: and i belive they healed me basically same amount
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're all 960
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: When I'm leveling, I fight enemies that leave me at 50% hp or less.
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod... but, without weight, thats half the hp total healed from a full inv of pots =p
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: So I repot constantly to keep the xp coming.
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: plus every pot is a lost round of spell casting for me
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Though, carrying a mix of the two and making an alias to choose one based on your current hp% might be nice
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: Anywho, if I run through all 150 pots, I can always get some more.
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: that, i might be looking for other pot options now
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: gold benefit might be handy.. where do the canyon pots come from?
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ode coughs loudly.
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: canyon ;-)
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: same place as invis pots
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ah, elemental canyon?
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: canyon memorial, pharmacy
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: hospital pharmacy, its not hidden by any stretch lol
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: runto hospital, open north, run n2e
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: canyon memorial hospital...elemental canyon's replacement
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ... ah.
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: n2w
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: the shop sells them.
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: now does nature's touch's effect change based on your stats and level?
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's con based
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Hrn, con based is a plus..
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: definitely does
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: yeah, it's based on your con...so awesome for rangers
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: It is based on Con instead of Wisdom, so if you have high wisdom, the other pots are better. If con is high, stick with these.
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: so i'm wondering how effective it is aroudn what level
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: only answer is to experiment
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: It's available at level 27, which is GREAT!! XD
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: so you're lvl 149 single class you could probably rival clan pots with those
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: 1129-881 at lvl 38 for me, pclass ranger, maxed con
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: whats' 1129-881 mean
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: it healed 250?
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: yeah..
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: that's about what i get
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: like 260-280
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: 250 isn't alot, but it's still good from a cheap pot.
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: uhh 280 is 1/3 my health lol
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: Ooooh kay... that is a lot!
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: "Medicinal Health" ?
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: a pot for me works if it at least restores 20%, i still use jades going towards 200
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: my con is at 74 with bonuses included right now. Yes, Daloran
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: it's Medicinal Health we're discussing
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i'm at 50 oO con
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Pot does nothing for me compared to clan heals
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: really?
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: only heals about 280hp for me...
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: it is only a lvl 27 cast so, there ya go
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: Daloran, it won't go very high if your con isn't very high
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: my con is maxed from trains
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: it seems to also rely on wis and luck as advertised, my con stinks but i'm getting reasonable numbers as well
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: I've got 150 to 200 con when I use them.
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: and you get ~500 hp?
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: My wis is in the toilet compared to con, figured it'd be closer
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: and... 200 wis and luck.
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: hmm as i level i'll have to see where the effect of this drops off
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: It's cheap and light, so you can afford to spam them.
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: Like I said, I buy them in sets of 100.
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, with 277 con, 303 wis & 406 luck, it gives me 420 HP
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: Wait, what?... that's less than me!
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: I guess luck affects it... Makes it give more or less each time.
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nowhere close enough to clanheals to warrant a switch for me
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: that's almost what you get from a clanheal, isn't it, Abe? I seem to remember them being about 480..
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: clan heals are about 800hp normally, no?
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: It's not suppost to match a clan pot, especially being as it's only a fifth the cost and less than a tenth the weight.
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: what lvl clan heals?
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: 60
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: lvl 60 jades...
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: depends on the wisdom score of the drinker.
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's based on wis
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: yeah, but my wis is in the toilet, my con is not =p
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: oh we are comparing to jades, i dunno i'd be interested to see what it does for me
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: clanheal gives me 1200 HP
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: well dal as i said my con wasn't as high but my wis and luck are far better and i got almost 300 on it
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: elixer gives me 800 & costs 360
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: ah, I forget they're wis-based, too
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: the spell claims those 3 stats
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: I'll most likely switch to a non-natures touch pot after remort since I'm going the whole max stat enchant route.
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: My con is slightly higher than my wis, what pots should I use at 125?
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: use the ones that work the best
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: That's my cue to go! Cya!!
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: Anyone know why I might be getting this weird lag-like issue where the screen freezes, but commands still go through, then all of a sudden, it posts everything that it should have been showing?
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: I've seen some clients do that when they get spammed...
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: But I just logged on, and it's been doing it for the last few days.
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: Ping/tracert show no obstruction between me and the mud, and from what I can tell, it would have to be client side...
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: What client?
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: zMUD
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowen Turrillius Tech: Actually, tracert is now showing timeouts after the 19th hop.
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Hmm, that could be your problem -- a bad router somewhere
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: anyone here had experience on karel?
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what to do with a pc that won't burn cds or dvds
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Isamaru Tech: mud
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: don't think that'll solve it
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: Slave the hard drive to a system that can?
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Stop pirating?
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: think i'll just end up doing a full reinstall
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Komrad Kessel exclaims "ARR!" and makes an intimidating face.
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You laugh mercilessly as Komrad Kessel forces Apprentice Oladon to plummet from the plank into the icy water.
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: there's no magical fix-it script for fixing dodgy burning subsystems in xp, unfortunately
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: That social is severely lacking in the preposition department, Kessel.
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iceman Tech: anyone here had there their pc just restart with no warning..??
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Isamaru Tech: anyone know the equivalent of " * " in zmud/cmud for MUSHclient?
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Iceman, yes...
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iceman Tech: mine jus kept restarting.. blank screen and restart
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no, iceman, just you
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Searon Tech: (*)
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Isamaru Tech: that's it?
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Searon Tech: try it
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iceman Tech: please man.. its makin me go nuts
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Isamaru Tech: ok thanks
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i've got nothing to do with it!
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iceman Tech: is there more oladon? :P
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Iceman: It's usually in my experience either an overheating system (CPU or mobo), a switching power supply, or malware.
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: sounds like spyware to me
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iceman Tech: sounds logical
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Overheating system is less likely -- that usually causes it to shut down, not restart.
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: doesn't sound like spyware to me
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Easy way to find out if it's spyware... clean it off :P
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Can of Pringle nods.
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iceman Tech: i checked for overheating.. its all fine.. cleaned the fans jus incase
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: to rule out overheating, open the case and put a box fan next too it
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Install Spybot, clean out the registry a bit...
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: switching power supply or malware is my guess. I've known a lot of virii that cause that behavior.
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iceman Tech: ok thanks. will try.. much appreciated
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iceman Tech: if you dont see me again.. it didnt work lol
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iceman Tech: wish me luck
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iceman Tech: it was spyware. all sorted
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iceman Tech: thanks for the assist :)
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: it can be overheating but generally overheating is consistently inducable, "randomly" rebooting without some other problem is generally spyware
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: glad it works
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i had my GPU fan fail, guaranteed overheat every 3-5 minutes after boot up
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: actually sorry, usually an overheat reboot is screwy  like for instance mine wouldn't powerup the hard drives until i manually rebooted again
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fachtna Tech: I'm making an alias to say 3 or 4 sentences, is there a way to have it wait a few seconds between statements?
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: If it's MUSHclient, there's a dowait script function.
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if in zmud, probably something with #alarm
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fachtna Tech: yes, i'm using mush.  so what do I type to have it wait?
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if in tinyfugue, /quote
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: zmud has #wait and a decent help/search feature
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: in tt its #pause
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: It's DoAfter in MUSHclient, actually. In your alias, you'll first want to "send to" script.
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Then for each sentence, type in 'DoAfter(#, "your sentence here")' where # is the number of seconds you want.
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: anybody familiar with karel the robot?
T1/r7/2009-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Is anyone using the vanilla Statmon (the non window version) from the CMud package library? I'm trying to figure out why it doesn't gag itself properly.
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduka Tech: Is this the standard message for Vor? ^Deep magic stirs within your weapon\. It seems to have a life of its own\.$
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduka Tech: Thank you =)
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduka Tech: Is it always Sucessful when you see that message?
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, vorpal doesn't fail...help vorpal for details on what it actually does though
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduka Tech: My weapon has it on it, I been seeing it trigger off and on
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: anyone good with Microsoft works spreedsheet
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Interesting... Those of you upset with Apple's rejection of the Google Voice iPhone app and the implications of such shady behavior might be interested to hear that the FCC has opened and inquiry into the ban.
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Via Lifehacker. :P
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Eeeeeeeeenteresting
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods.
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: granted, fcc has no jurisdiction ;-)
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: True, Though I'm surprised they let Skype fly but pull the plug on the GV app
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: anyone know if the GV app worked for the iPod Touch?
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: *pets*
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Hello my tech people.
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Learn From Einstein Tech: is there a way to make aardwolf send me a telopt message about my state without me having to change state just to get that message?
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fyng Tech: A trigger for echo maybe?
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Learn From Einstein Tech: echo?
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fyng Tech: Oh...telopt...nevermind.
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what an utter arse
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: how to get ripped off by Toshiba Pt1
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Step 1. Buy from them.
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Step 2. ?????
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Step 3. Profit!
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: advertise a lappie with hdmi and it doesn't, not even an dvi
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Don't need to go beyond step 1 to get ripped off by them. ;)
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i think some models have optional parts which are sold separately
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You know, if theres only 1 action, I wonder if it could really be considered a step
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: I don't mind working on Toshiba laptops...the design is usual easy to take apart, and they document each of the screw (lol)
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I guess technically buying a laptop is the step to getting ripped off by them, but...
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Seems there would have to be multiple steps
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well now i've got an angry client who can't connect said toshiba laptop to their hdmi cinema system
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: seems like a bit of a design flaw for a media laptop
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: have you directed them to Toshiba customer support, yet?
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: L33tM4st3r Lashan sighs.
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Not neccesarily a flaw, but, where did the ad say it had hdmi out?
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yes, because they'd be sooo helpful
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: i know ><
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Unless they purchased direct from toshiba, I don't know that its toshibas fault for saying it had hdmi
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the advert and specs didn't say either way, but the picture showed it
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: ick.
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ... So the person who bought the laptop expecting it is an idiot, is what you're saying?
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: would seem so
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: thats true with fastfoods as well
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: though to be honest, i think they're quite right in being annoyed that such an expensive laptop doesn't have it
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's like buying a $100k car and finding it doesn't have a stereo
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: say for macdonalds look at their counters it has those big tasty burgers, but the product is crap
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Tiger, your analogy is flawed, if it was say, an F1 car
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you can't buy a F1 car for $100k
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Just saying, the stereo isn't neccesarily required in a 100k car =p
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nor is a steering wheel, technically
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I'd argue that a steering wheel is more or less part of what makes it a car - though I suppose they do have joystick steered cars now
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: between that and poxy effing usb hubs that work when they want to
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: vista sp2 isn't very large
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: thats what she said
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: anyone familiar with php and mysql?
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wanner Tech: I just downloaded the aard client....is there a way to just get rid of the big map?  I don't want it to keep popping up everytime a move.
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type bigmap auto off
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wanner Tech: thanks Abelinc!
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: might want to check out the FAQ and the plugins list linked off the client webpage
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wanner Tech: thanks....that looks like it will answer a lot of my questions
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Only if they were frequently asked
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they are...2/3rds of the basic Aard MUSHclient questions asked are answered in them...including that one
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A JOKE ABELINC. THANKS FOR RUINING IT.
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ssh
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: omgwtfbbq
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, Teglach sounds like you're calling them a bad name in Klingon
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: A bit, it does.
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: anyone have any idea what this means: PHP Notice: Undefined index: mob in c:\hdg\website\insert.php  code looks like this $mobname=$_POST['mob']
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: any php/mysql guru's around.
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Memnarch Tech: anyone able to answer mcclient question?
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: Depends on the question
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Memnarch Tech: I have it on and it has the lines about redirecting local ports
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Memnarch Tech: so what do I now telnet into to use it?
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: Which mccp client are you using
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Memnarch Tech: just mcclient.exe
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Memnarch Tech: someone I downloaded a long time ago
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Memnarch Tech: something rather
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: I'd check out help mccp and download the client they have in there.
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: I believe that comes with instructions
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: use tintin its jsut like telnet but with mccp built in
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Memnarch Tech: let me check the folder
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: basically you connect to the client -> the client connects to> aard
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: host for your mud would now become localhost or (127.0.0.1) and the port you connect to is the port you mccp client opened for you
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witblitz Tech: do any of u guys know what pocket client i can use with the nokia n97? can find a putty that wroks
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: oh nice idea
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: whats the easiest way to get zmud to read from a file
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: just #read
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Yes.
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: is there a way to use that to read just the last line of a file?
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Yes, I believe. Let me see if I can find it.
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: thanks im searching zmud help right now, not seeing it
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Might try #FILE 1 filename;#SAY %read(1,%filesize(1))
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: anyone here use twitter by chance
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: yep
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: yup
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: ok, if i have someone i'm following and i want to reply to their tweet, but have it show up on thier twitter as a reply, how do i do it?
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: name>
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: @<name>
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i tried that, didn't work
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: it showed up on my twitter, no theirs
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: are they following you?
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: it won't show unless they follow you
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: or see tweets with their name
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: oh, ok.. lemme try that.. gimme a sec
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: right hand side of twitter
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: oh --- The filename given in name is restricted to the current directory containing ZMUD.EXE and cannot refer to a EXE, HLP, or MUD file.  This protects you from accidentally modifying important files on your disk.
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: mis
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: the yshoukld see @<theirname>
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: tell them to click that
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: ok so if they click that it'll show up?
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: ok still not working
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: maybe it's the twitter code i'm using on the website... i'm using the base html code because i don't want the flash crap, and it's not showing replies...
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: cause it shows up on their main twitter page
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: ok and?
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: ok let me explain it
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: if thers a tweet out there and it has @<theirname> somewhere in there, then they will see it if they click on the @<theirname> link on their main page
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i did that.
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: if you want your tweets to show up on their page
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: they need to be following you
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: they are
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: then whats the problem
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: that's what i'm saying.. it's showing up on the main twitter page
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: AS IT SHOULD
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: but it's not showing up in the twitter update thing they tell you to use on your website
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: that's where it needs to be. 
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: perhaps you are out of API calls for the day
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: or the update thing is slow
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: or the tweets just aren't loading
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: no, cause i just posted one on the main twitter that i have the code for, and it shows up instantly, but the replies i'm posting from my twitter aren't posting
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: are you replying to the tweet with another tweet
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirannon Tech: or are you using a direct message
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i'm clicking reply on the tweet itself, and i tried just typing ame
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Domib Tech: Hi, i am using the MUSHclient. i wonder could i turn off all the chat messages in the main Aardwolf window but only keep them in the chat window. is this possible? 
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: type chats echo off
T1/r7/2009-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Domib Tech: coool! thanks alot
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: where can i download the spellups MCL file?
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: does anyone know of software that will allow me to do a complete copy (bootsector and all OS files) to another HDD? i realy dont want to fresh install right now
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: uhh hmm windows won't let you do that afaik without some prog as a number of files in windows directories and user directories are blocked from being copied
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i'm not sure what to do with the registry butif you can boot from another drive or a disk and then copy everything from a HD that way
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witblitz Tech: any of u clever guys know if there is a putty for the nokia n97.. i found one but for some reason it says it is for the symbian s60v5 but when u intall in it says sybian s60v3
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seranoma Tech: http://www.bay-wolf.com/ghostclone.htm
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seranoma Tech: <travis
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witblitz Tech: any other client software for phones out there?
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: phones are to desktops as a moped is to a decent car
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witblitz Tech: i know but i want to check something
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iceman Tech: check mxit site.. i think i saw software there.. may work as clients
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witblitz Tech: thanx ice
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: @travis seagate discwizard can do that for you
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seranoma Tech: I'm using MUSH and trying to make a trigger that auto "bid #" after an auction has begun, is anyone using a trigger like this?
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: any php/mysql guru's around?
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: how do i get the bigmap to stop showing up when i switch continents?
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: in mush
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: What is the difference between bitwise and logical? For example logical not, versus bitwise not
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: bitwise is performed on bits and can be operated on numbers
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: logical operations can only be performed on boolean values
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sacathean Tech: how do i change the col,or of my hp bar on my client
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduka Tech: are you on the aard client?
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sacathean Tech: yeah
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sacathean Tech: the mush aard client i suppose
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Galirawin Tech: which hp bar do you have? is it a floating miniwindow one, or one in a separate world window?
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduka Tech: it's stationary. It sits on his lower status bar.
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sacathean Tech: i believe the seperate one
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sacathean Tech: correct
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sacathean Tech: any color other than black
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Galirawin Tech: hang on while I load up that one and see what you mean
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduka Tech: you're wanting to change the font color? Or the bar itself?
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Galirawin Tech: the health bar I have sits just above the status line (where it says "ready") and the HP are in green, the mana in blue, etc. Is that the one?
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sacathean Tech: no the bar for hp itself i cant tell when its going down cause its black an like dark grey
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sacathean Tech: my mana is blue and my moves are yellow
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduka Tech: Okay, goto where you have it installed and look for the worlds folder, then look for the plug-in folder.
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduka Tech: In there is a file called health_bar.xml
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or just use file -> plugins ;-)
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Galirawin Tech: you don't have your monitor set to 256 colours do you?
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sacathean Tech: i dont know
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Galirawin Tech: if you have your monitor set to 256 colours the usual green on gray might look black on gray - try RH clicking the desktop, go to Properites -> Settings
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sacathean Tech: settings then what?
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then look at the color quality on the right-hand side
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Galirawin Tech: something about colour quality - in mine I have "medium" 16 bit
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ick, didn't think anyone ever used anything but highest 32 bit anymore
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Galirawin Tech: you don't want it to be lowest or 8 bit
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sacathean Tech: the highest i get is 24
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: choose that
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Galirawin Tech: is that what it is set to now?
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Galirawin Tech: I  agree in principle about using the highest, but I am running on an emulator
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sacathean Tech: ewww i figured it out
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Galirawin Tech: what was it?
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sacathean Tech: it needed to be broighter
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sacathean Tech: i told u i was dumb
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Galirawin Tech: at least you solved it :-)
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sacathean Tech: thanks guys i thought it was a code i needed to changew
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Galirawin Tech: I didn't think of that
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sacathean Tech: welll now i feel better
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: are there any php/mysql guru's around?
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Memnarch Tech: wha tis your question?
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Memnarch Tech: you got this line on abel?
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, I've got most channels on
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Memnarch Tech: cool
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: I get the folowing error, Undefined index: mob in C:\HDG\Website\insert.php code -> $mob = $_POST['mob'];
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Memnarch Tech: quick question for you, think you answered it before
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Memnarch Tech: have mcclient running at home
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: k
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Memnarch Tech: nwo what do I need to telnet into to actually hit the mccp thing?
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 127.0.0.1
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Memnarch Tech: ahh, local host thing
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Memnarch Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can check what ports your mcclient is listening to by checking the mcclient.cfg file
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Memnarch Tech: 4000, 4010, 4000, 5010 I believe
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aard is only listening to 4000, 4010 & 23, so use one of those
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Memnarch Tech: k
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Memnarch Tech: so telnet 127.0.0.1 4010
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Memnarch Tech: awesome, thanks
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: i have the DB setup with the tables and everything already, my php IDE gives me that error, and I am following a tutorial, so it looks correct, i mean I even c/p the code then just changed the variables to fit my table.
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ledneh Tech: is there any way to stop the aard client from constantly refocusing on the big map window?
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seranoma Tech: disable it
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ledneh Tech: suppose that works
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Galirawin Tech: there is a new bigmap window that is implemented as a floating miniwindow - that never gets the focus
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Galirawin Tech: see http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=9622
T1/r7/2009-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ledneh Tech: neat, thanks
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: does anyone know of a bootable virus scanner that can be run from a usb flash drive, without having to go into the OS?
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: There is quite a few open source as well as commerical products. Looking for something downloadable/free I assume?
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: hopefully
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: should be something
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Kk.. I know Norton has one, among others... but there are several.. lemme take a peak
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: if you know what/where the virus is you could just delete it manually as well
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Not in his case.
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: There are usually virus scanners on those recovery discs, like Ultimate Boot CD and the like
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: some reason you want usb as opposed to a cd/dvd?
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: i dont feel like burning a cd
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: i can if i need to
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: my bios doesn't support it but yours might
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: http://www.techmixer.com/free-bootable-antivirus-rescue-cds-download-list/ Links to a handfull of them, none of them have I used personally
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: the bottom option, Trinity says it includes: "ClamAV, AVG, F-Prot, BitDefender "
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: and if I'm not mistaken, its easy to get trinity running from a usb drive
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: getting the trinity one and the kaspersky one
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: danke
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: gl
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: i hope this works
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No problem. Like I say I've never used them... Generally what I've done is just pulled the drive and scanned it in another computer
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: only bootable AV i've tried was Norton, and it was pretty useless in the situation.
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: i dont have the tools to hook a laptop drive to my desktop, its not the sata laptop drive
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod, I've got all the adapters handy
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Do you fix a lot of computers?
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: the adapters are the only think im realy missing
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: i dont fix alot of laptops, but they are becomming more common
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812156017 Something like that is well worth the cost, if you do any sort of repair work
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Sata, 2.5" 3.5" IDE connectors all in 1 tool, $20
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i just have a recovery disk
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: yeah, ive been meaning to get one of those
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daloran nods.
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It makes so many things handy
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I like the internal hotswappable ones a bit better, but they're some $$$$$ and only work with one type, usually
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: http://www.directron.com/t5sa.html something like those
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: why is it when i shop for motherboards they all look like legos
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Because you shouldn't shop for pc hardware at toys r us =p
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: hehe
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: is nokia n95 a good thing?
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fyng Tech: Yeah.
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: worth to buy for 250$?
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fyng Tech: I'd say yes.
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: thx
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mardus Tech: who is linuxguru here?
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: where does nokia n95 have mobile in memory as well or only this mini disk?
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: where does nokia n95 have mobile in memory as well or only this mini disk?
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: try looking at the specs on nokia homepage
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: hmm
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: how I can check nokia n95 mobil inner memory?
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: check as in see how much is being used, or check as in see if there are any problems with it?
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: check how much is being used
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: I just found a way to check how much the mini disk is used
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: should be something like "check memory" thats what my phone has
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: under what it is?
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: to see how much memory is left
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: yeah...where its in the menu
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i don't own that phone and this one is years out of date now lol  i would think it'd either be with your memory intensive apps like the camera or in the settings
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: tech 
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You raise your eyebrow at GentooX.
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: easiest way for me to tell is to browser my files and get details on the chip
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i used handy taskman appplication manager by epocware to monitor my tasks and memory
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: uhh, cell phone?
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: phone has ram/phone memory/memory card
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: eh my phone has memory, not just ram
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: just browsing files it let me do "check memory" in the options
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: if you have your manual still might be a useful time to pull that sucker out
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: sirian, on n95 its on your file manager menu
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: ok
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: file manager and where from there?
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: sirian, apps->filemanager->options->scroll up a bit->memory details
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: I cansc
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GentooX raises an eyebrow at Evil Bitch Sirian's weird actions.
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: hmmmm
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: worked thx
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can download the pdf manual for the n95 from nokia's site (note that there are 2 versions of the n95)
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldraxis Tech: anyway to tell mushclient (aardclient) spellup script to re-try failures instead of moving to next spell?
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: spellup resume instead of spellup fast
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Spellup fast will just cast all you have to cast, then recast, spellup resume will do both mostly at the same time
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldraxis Tech: OK I'll find where to put that and do that, cheers 
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just type it
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: spellup is not MUSH but aard command
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: myopic not quite true
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldraxis Tech: It is? so all the time I spent getting a spellup script to work last year was in vain. geat.
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you have gammon's spellup script, mush "hijacks" spellup
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: as per usual, I'm lax
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaymez Tech: wish they would make the spellup other for mush easier. :(
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: the in-game spellup isn't satisfactory for me
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: so i replaced my spellup plugin with the one from gammon that i can type spellup other name to spellup somebody else and ever since i did it has given me this popup about spellups file missing, is there a way to get that popup to go away when i startup?
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: would need to know more exactly what the popup says
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: jaymez, you mean shorter instead of easier? it doesn't get much easier than typing one command
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaymez Tech: I mean to get the spellup other to work. I am stupid when it comes to stuff like that.
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to get it to work, you type spellup other <player>
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaymez Tech: It says unknown spellup option given
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: it says C:\Program Files\...\Spellups.mcl not found
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: You are on vista then, turn the UAC off
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: i already turned that off : /
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Now install the plugin where it is supposed to be, in the program files
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: the reason i don't have it is because i have the new spellups plugin from gammon
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: so i don't need the other spellups file correct?
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you tell file -> plugins that you didn't want it installd?
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: that's what i don't get i looked in there a few times now and i only see one spellups in there, which would be the new spellups i have from gammon
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: open up c:\program files\mushclient\worlds\aardwolf\aardwolf.mcl in a text editor
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: scroll to the very bottom
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that is what tells MUSH what to try loading
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the future, don't just remove files...go to file->plugins and remove it from there first
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: nah, i figured out what i did wrong, i didn't delete anything it was that when i saved the file it told me to it saved as xml and it was suppose to be mcl
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: maybe now it won't screw up and recast buffs over and over
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ohh, spellup.xml wasn't the name of your old spellup plugin...it's the fake world file that the gammon plugin uses
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: and it wasn't suppose to be xml i read it wrong, was suppose to be mcl
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: so i saved the wrong type of file so it kept searching for the right file
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldraxis Tech: How do I log only the "Chats" window of Aardclient?
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldraxis Tech: nvm, got it
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: click the chats tab so that is the world with focus...then game -> configure -> logging
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: each of the windows is an entirely separate "world" to MUSHclient
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldraxis Tech: I just right clicked and selected "log session" and set buffer to 500000 
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldraxis Tech: hmm it would appear that didbn't work so I'll try what you said
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: under Mush is there a way to keep focus on a single world unless manually choosing another?
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it shouldn't be spontaneously changing the focus world without something (you or a plugin) telling it to
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are these "real" worlds (i.e. 2 MUDs), or the capture windows?
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: windows
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: one setting that could help is to go to file -> global preferences, click general, click the checkbox for "all typing goes to command window"
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: that is already checked
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it's the bigmap plugin that's taking focus, you can type "bigmap auto off" to stop it
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: looks like that diod the trick, thank you
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: did*
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaymez Tech: what is the gammon forum number for spellup other?
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gammon's spellup script is http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=8780
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaymez Tech: one of these days I will get it to work. :P
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaymez Tech: thanks abelinc
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-)
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaymez Tech: when it says to save link as, is that the same as save target as?
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaymez Tech: when I rh click on one of the files to save?
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaymez Tech: It finaly worked. I can spellup others now. Thanks for you patience and time on this Alebinc :) 
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaymez Tech: I was wrong. Now it says I have not requested any spellups when I type spellup to spellup my self any hints on how to fix this?
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaymez Tech: when I type spellup I get this for a message You have not requested any spellups. any hints on how I can fix it?
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: add some spells with spellup + ?
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: type spellup + spell
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: spellup + spell, spell, spell, spell,...
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaymez Tech: k thanks
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rithlin Tech: or just spellup all
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: you can still use spellu to do your normal spellup
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaymez Tech: oooh. I like that it keeps recasting till successful
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why are things you want to send through the post always slightly too big for the boxes you have available?
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: murphy's law
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: damned irish git
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: How can I block these obnoxious popups?  I can't seem to adblock them at all.  Using Firefox.
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <obligatory answer> quit surfing pr0n?
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It's a website explaining time signatures, jackass.
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You go to Starling, "SUUUUUUUURE...."
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: wonder how much longer paypal will be down
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: is there a keyboard shortcut to flip through the windows in mush? (ie chat, aardwolf, etc)
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: Ctrl + W
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Maybe alt+w
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ledneh Tech: I use ctrl-tab
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: awesome, thanks
T1/r7/2009-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: No sense in me trying to teach you Lua coding, when the script is pre-made for you already
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: Pretty basic MySql question... if you are creating a new table and you want a basic field name such as first name... what is the most common field type to set it as? (text, char, varchar, etc)
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Searon Tech: varchar
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: and what about a field that would hold a password?
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Overlord Xantcha Tech: password is typically varchar still, you simply encrypt everything through that PASSWORD() function
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: thank you
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: is setting an index with a mysql database the same as defining a primary key?
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: No. A primary key is an index, but a table can only have one primary key, yet many indices.
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: primary key is for identifying your records in a unique way
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: index is more for increasing performance/speed on lookups
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: many thanks
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baroqen Tech: on a similar topic, does anyone know if i store a record with sql, and my primary key index in the database is simply set to auto increment, if there a way to get to know what the index is as it gets set?
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Yes, your language likely has a binding for it
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baroqen Tech: hmm thanks rathik. have you any idea for php/sql? i do have an idea which is select all records and sort the primary key by desc order then grab the first record, but i was wondering if there was any more "graceful" way of doing it..
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: what exactly are you trying to do?
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: If it's mysql, then there is a PHP function for get last insert ID or something.
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baroqen Tech: i'm storing a record into a table, which assigns a primary key index by auto increment, and immediately on the next line of code, i need the primary key of this record to work with 
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baroqen Tech: ah okay, many thanks, i'll look that up :)
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: http://us.php.net/manual/en/function.mysql-insert-id.php -- note that it only works after an insert query, of course.
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baroqen Tech: wow awesome that helped! thanks :)
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: 0
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Theodemort Tech: anyone?
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: I am trying to load the EXP Bar plug in, and it requires Stats Detector to work. When I try to load Stats Detector I get this error "Line   18: Plugin "id" field must be unique for this world (problem in this file)"
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: any ideas?
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it's already loaded
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: check File-Plugins and you should see it
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: well odd. Now I see the bar, but it doesnt fill.
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: PHP/MySql question...If I have a form that i want to to submit to the the same page for validation.  Why would it show me a blank page upon submit instead of what *should* be on there?  The information is processed and shows up fine if i refresh the page, but the initial submit just show s a blank screen with the css
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I'm experiencing a weird error/bug/thing.
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Using Firefox, when I watch Youtube videos, the audio plays at faster than normal pitch (but not at a faster speed), making it slightly chipmunky.
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Why? I'm curerntly in the process of restarting Firefox hoping that it will fix the problem.
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: its deffo something on your end, I have no issues w/ firefox or youtube. Did you get any updates lately?
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: No, in fact, it happened in the middle of watching a certain Youtube clip. It was playing just fine and then suddenly it went chipmunky. I thought it was the video at first.
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: OK
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: OK, apparently it's not a Firefox thing. ALL audio is being pitched on my computer for some reason o_O
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seranoma Tech: could be driver issue
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: ugh, well...blowout your audio drivers I guess
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Spontaneous driver issue in the middle of using my computer?!
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: it happens
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: even if its not the cause, its an easy issue to rule out
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Apparently it was a headphone issue. Switching headphones fixed it.
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: It's a pretty bizarre error, though, headphones spontaneously pitching all sound
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Anyone ever experienced that before? O_o They're USB headphones, that got anything to do with it?
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: it could be any number of things
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: the buttons on my zmud disappeared is there a way to get them back(by buttons i mean the alias triggers buttons etc.)
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: im using debian etch on this old laptop (just console, no gui) and want to set macros on my F1-F12 keys, but they aren't "working". when i hit my F1 key, instead of entering its keymap (i.e. [[A <enter>) it just inputs a letter "A" without an <enter>. Just like if i type SHIFT-a. any ideas ?
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: im not on linux right now, but when im in vi i normal enter ctrl-v F1, then f1 works just fine in my scripts
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: anyone good with windows networking - i know its a vague question but yes i mean network settings / routing in windows
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: use a router!
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: don't ask to ask. just ask
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: figured its pointless to go into detail about a question if noone is good with the subject
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: we could have answered it three times by now
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: try starting with a vague question
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: have to proxy through LAN, but want to mud through telnet/zmud or something - is it possible to route certain apps through different network connections
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: other than VMware or Virtual PC
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: was going to use my aircard or tether phone - + have LAN for work purposes
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: don't think you can without third party software
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=route+certain+apps+through+different+network+connections <- several hits there
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: its not clear, are you on a network which uses a proxy as a gateway outside on every port?
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: just in case you haven't been there yet
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but it seems entirely possible
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: yes gentoo - and thanks Dag ;)
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: another question is the router routing you to your proxy everytime?  even if you do not specify your proxy settings?
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: if no proxy is used you get DNS error on everything - unable to locate blah blah blah
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: so i guess you are in a NAT configuration,  try to obtain an ip address on the same subnet as your gateway.  if that wont work,  try to check https://www.svtunnel.com if you can browse filtered websites if you can there is another way to get out of your network
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: i am able to resolve within the subnet yes
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: i guess i could cheat and use my aircard for everything then VPN into the work network to access what i need to
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't need to vpn in, just set routes
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: elaborate just a bit?
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: with aircard, use normally...so it has defaultroute
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for local network, the addresses are more known...don't set a default gateway
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in command prompt (or batch file), route add 12.34.56.78 mask 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.1
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: where 12.34.56.78 is one of the work networks, adjust the netmask accordingly, and the 192.168.1.1 would be the work router if everything isn't fully a single network
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't need to use any route commands at all if everything at work is one network
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: any idea why I am seeing aafon, affoff, and sfail strings after I spellup or fail to?
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tags spellups off will stop that
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're also seeing {chan ch=tech} and {stats}12,34,56,67, tags off will fix everything
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tags and statmon exist for scripts to be able to use...when you're using such scripts, the script gags them so you don't need to see it
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: ok. so that fixed the problem, but now I am not seeing the first perimiters of the string output. like instead of Lost Concentration while trying to cast blah blah
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you then use a client (web, telnet, etc) that isn't set up with the scripts, they'll be shown
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: I am only seeing while trying to cast.
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: and I am using Mush.
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are you using a spellup script with MUSH?
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: I did, but I disabled it. It pugged out on me.
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: bugged
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sounds like it's not fully disabled
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: I diabled it using file > plugins, and then deleted the xml file.
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, you have some trigger gagging the lost concentration part if you're not seeing it
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: thanks abelinc, im going to try that tomorrow and see what happens - going to research routes some more - appreciate it
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: well, that only occurs when I diable tags.
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: whether that trig is from that plugin or elsewhere is anyone's guess
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: You too gentoo
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can use "route /?" to see different parameters to the route command
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: alright. I fixed it. thanks for the help.
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: where can I find other mush plugins
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: www.mushclient.com
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: is there a way to make the spellup cmd targetable or remove some spells?
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: as in remove from spells from the queued spells
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: forgetskill
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cannot use the in-MUD spellup command to spell up others
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: im waiting on the wish that lest you forget more spells than the standard
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: I just use a blacklist script
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, it's not needed for the spellup command which was the original intent/use for forgetskill...but yeah, it's convenient for viewing lists
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: Abe your just so full of knowledge lol
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nihmindu Tech: anyone know how to make seperate windows for chating and the mini map in tintin++
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Yeah, use tail
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nihmindu Tech: tail?
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: I don't understand it myself, thats why i haven't scripted it yet, but i know thats how you do it
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: hah
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nihmindu Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir raises an eyebrow at The All Darkknowing's weird actions.
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that means to log channels to separate files, and then monitor those files for new text...
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tail -f would be a separate command, not running within tt++
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nihmindu Tech: sounds too complicated for me, perhaps I can manager without them
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: the minimap thing I wrote for tt++ a while back is located here... http://tintin.sourceforge.net/board/viewtopic.php?t=704&highlight=aardwolf+map
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You cheer Fat Ass Cartman on and wish him good luck!
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: does require a 2nd terminal window running tail though
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: How do you make it run on tail?
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: tail -f filename.txt
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tail is a shell command that says "read the bottom of a file"...with the -f flag, it means "read the bottom, and when new text is written to that file, read that in too
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: ohhh a redirect script nice :)
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: with tt, you can probably also force the map to stick to the top of the screen by messing with the #split and #show commands... haven't done that myself because I like being able to scroll up though
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: But when i do tail -f it does nothing, it says there is no tail in aardwolf
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: any linux system will already have tail built-in, windows would need it from elsewhere (cygwin includes it, as do a number of other unix/linuxy tools for windows)
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: darkknowing, you don't type that into aard
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: run tail from a command prompt, not from within aardwolf
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Where do i type it?
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Tail is a unix command, not an Aardwolf command.
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you do that in a not-tt++ window
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: its a *nix command
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: roflol
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: obviously not a nix guy
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that separate window is where you want to see the channel...that becomes your channel capture window
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: im on windows, it won't run in my cmd
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: dk is on windoze
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure it will
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Just tried
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: read what I wrote above
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: if you're on windows, download cygwin
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: meh, im fine with no capture script
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: iirc parts of cygwin was installed just to run tt++
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: been getting along ok thus far
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you're not even using the client they are talking aboot
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes he is
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: yeah, i am
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wintin++ is fully tt++
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: gnuwin32 coreutils package will give you tail without downloading cygwin
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, that was one of the other ones I was trying to remember
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hmm. thought i saw you asking aboot mush here quite often :\
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he did
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: i did
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's tried 6 clients in the last 6 months ;-)
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Finally found one i like
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: And it was 5 clients in8 months 
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: wth! you even know the numbers how did you do that?
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: latch onto cartman ;-)
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hmm. that gave me an idea for read-only aard
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: haha i guess thats one of you abe jokes. lol
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: if you like the tail solution, my channel/tell catcher is now located at... http://pastebin.com/m56a76e13
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: again, tt++, needs tail to run it
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: Speaking of cygwin, will that let you mix Windows commands and Unix command in the same script or are your still stuck with picking one or the other?
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: last time I used cygwin (years ago), it just added unix style commands to dos style
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: Thanks. Somehow I thought cygwin ran in its own shell.
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: just add them commands in your path and youll can mix them
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: great scripts cartman
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: you can also run it in your own shell, with only access to linux command
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: but i recommed the use of gnuwin32 because it doesnt have the cygwin dll dependency
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: is everyone being very quiet or is the channel script not working?
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Being quiet
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Hi
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: spam
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: spam
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: So is it working?
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduka Tech: spam are tastey
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: spam is ham in can try that my man
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: dosen't seem to be yet
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: test
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: does anyone use the exp bar plugin for Mushclient?
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: i use it
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: Any idea why it works sometimes, and sometimes doesnt. Does double affect it or anything?
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: better yet, can you show me what prompt you use?
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: works fine for me, I'll look at the plugin see if it used prompt or tags
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ick, it's got to be an old plugin to use prompts
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: actutally no. it uses miniwindows, so it obv. not old.
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: experience in a miniwindow, not just above command line?
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: a blue bar at the bottom of screen?
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: its above the command line, but i thought it was done with miniwindows. Yeah.
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: ok I'll look at the plugin
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: for some reason it was working fine earlier, and now the empty bars are there, just not filling blue.
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=9576 <- latest version
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: do you have noexp set?
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: no, I don't.
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amigan Tech: I had to change the variable 'max_xp' in the script to match my exp per level requirement before it worked for me.
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: and that is the version I am using.
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: so just change the max exp varible to 2000, and then 3000 next mort and so on?
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amigan Tech: yep, you'll probably have to click reinstall for it on the plugins menu after changing it though
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: max_xp = 1000 on line 47?
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amigan nods at Madrad.
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: thank you sir, working fine =)
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: such a nifty plugin =D
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amigan beams a smile at Madrad.
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: someone really should compile a new Mushclient for Aards website using all the new nifty miniwindow plugins and v4.40
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: I nominate madrad.
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: I would do it.
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: I am actutally learning Lua. Never messed with it before, but I have a background in C++/C#/Php.
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: a monkey could do lua
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: know one, know them all
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: many do, see domain's areas for example, then fido him a banana
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: anyone of you guys familiar with karel
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: I am not very familiar with muds, so this question may sound stupid. But what protocol is used?
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Telnet, sort of
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: It's more of just raw TCP, I think.
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: telnet, exactly
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not sort of
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not raw tcp, it's compliant telnet
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: MUDs don't implement everything in the telnet protocol though, do they?
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they implement everything required in the telnet protocol, yes
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: so its possible to build a nifty GUI using mIRC, and just learning how to use IRC protocol to communicate with the MUD.
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: irc protocol isn't telnet protocol
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: I know it isnt, but you could use irc to communicate through telnet, if you understand both protocols. I've seen similiar things done for DDoS attacks and ect.
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You pat Madrad on his head.
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: there was a thread about Irc with MUSH on the gammon forums
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, so you'd prefer to attempt to erroneously kludge a crappy client to do things it was never intended to do, instead of using a decent one specifically written to help you MUD...
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: irc with MUSH is not the same as using irc to MUD...
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: this client is not amazing for GUI's.
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: having 2 programs collaborate and communicate is normal
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: I'll get out of this convo :)
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: mIRC's picture windows can make amazing eye candy.
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i agree. muds need more eye candy
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as can GUI MUD clients...mIRC can't handle helping you MUD better, however, which MUD clients can
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also, irssi > mirc
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Speaking of eye candy, take a look at some recent screenshots from the big map plugin for MUSHclient: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?id=9622&page=2
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: Rathik I know I love it
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: i got the big map plugin, but it doesn't stay off when you type bigmap to disable it
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: it was just a thought to be honest, but I think these miniwindows for mush have potential. I'll just see what I can come up with.
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aps, sure it does...
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: read the thread
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: i disable it whenever i move or look it pops back up
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Aps, it seems they just fixed that as of today, August 4 -- there's an edit on that page about it.
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't type bigmap...you type bigmap auto off
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: ohh he must of read my post
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: anyways i have to go dl a bunch of plugins because of blainer anyways
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik nods.
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: so i'll check it out
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik wildly nods his head at Aps... he seems to be in total awe.
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik hugs Blainer.
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: does anyone know if its possible to make the miniwindow map plug moveable?
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: no just the Inventory_Window_2.xml has changed to fix bags
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: It's certainly possible-- you can look on the forum for several examples, Madrad.
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: Madrad look in plugins forum for new version
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: alright. =)
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: anyone tried conversation with msn to yahoo and vice versa?
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: thats like making making a pig hump a cow, both are bloated and smelly and their patrs don't quite mesh well
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: parts*
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: That's the best analogy I've heard in a LONG time.
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: unless you are tied to either or are asking for a diff reason, look into Jabber
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: gentoo, try jabber
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: jabber server handles all my contacts from different im networks
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i just tried it. works natively
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: im on windows right now.  on my dads pc. just wanna use whats in here. :)
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i ssh to a cli client
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: mmm...  ssh, screen, and naim
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: wow the new bigmap is amazing.
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik is agreeing with that Madrad person again...
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: the new bigmap?
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?id=9622&page=1
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: a fancy bigmap
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: tbh though, how often do you use bigmap?
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: I'm currently reworking my UI using the new mini window plug ins, does anyone know if there is one for stats?
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volans Tech: all the time
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: well, this one you can resize.
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it can be handy to work on shorter speedwalks
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: so if you take away all the old windows and use new mini windows.
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i think there is one for stats, i dont like mini windows tho
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: and make it a nice size, its very appealing.
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: about the only time i use bigmap is vidblain
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: same here :P
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: I'll get this all nice and pretty and post a SS of my the layout I do, and you guys can see what you think.
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I think that new plugin bleeds on Vidblain though
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: Im editing the mini windows sizes right now so they line up well.
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: what iritated that i have to keep on adjusting my collumn length because it doesn't stay for long
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: i change it to 80 over and over : / it just changes back to the screen length
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: nobody knows how to make it stay?
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I didn't understand the problem. Are you talking about the column width of the output in MUSHclient?
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: yes, i use mush and i have my screen as wide as i can get it without screwing up my map so i have more room for miniwindows
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: yeah, how can I set a max line length?
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: so i adjust my collumn width to 80 so it doesn't go behind the miniwindows
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: but it autoadjusts back a lot
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: its in the mush options if that's what you want
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I have mine at 81, and I never have the problem of it auto adjusting. Could it be possible that you have another plugin toying with the settings?
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: go to game, configure, output, down to the collumn length
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: like what plugin would change it so my collumn length goes back to max screen size
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: so my text goes to the end of the black area when i don't want it to
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: you have "Wrap output at Column" checked?
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: that just makes it so words don't get split
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: if you don't have it checked and you hit the end of what it's set at the word will be cut and the end of it will go to the next line
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: try Negotiate about Size on that dialog
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: uncheck Negotiate check Wrap column set to 80 or what ever and save teh window
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: negotiate was unchecked : /
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: wow, I am having the same problem. I keept setting it to 100, but it keeps resetting to 159.
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: i just checked it when you said let me reopen mush and see if the collumn size saved
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: this is a mini window?
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: no, I am talking about my column length.
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: there is an auto wrap to window size, you may need that unchecked
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i think a plugin can mess that up
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i'd suspect that if you change the number and it changes back something like that may be at work
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: Ode I had this I think 5 mths ago can't remeber what I did, is not a plugin
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: k
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: I undid the auto wrap to window size, let me wait a bit and see if it happens again.
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: mine's never done something dumb like that so that's all i can think of
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: although maybe it was Ardinit.xml
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: i think i may have found the problem there is a checkbox autowrap to window size
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: yeah, uncheck that.
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aardinit doesn't do anything after the first run unless you call it via an alias
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, fedraz mentioned that a bit ago
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: cough, this was said like 10 line ago lol hope it fixes it
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and yes, that's exactly what that setting is meant to do
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: genius at work here
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: sorry, i was reopening mush so i missed that
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: fixed Aps?
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: I'm trying to catch on to the new miniwindow health bar, but I'm so used to looking under the command line.
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: yes, was that damn checkbox
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for normal use, you want it to wrap at the end of the window...miniwindows are highly weird from a UI perspective in that regard
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: cool
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: yeah, miniwindows blocking what i want to read is irritating that is why i don't want it to go to the end
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but if you don't want it to go to the end, then there's no reason to use miniwindows ;-)
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: has aonyone done the spellup script in a miniwindow yet?
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: why no need Abe?
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: check gammon?
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: miniwindows exist so that you can use the space for both normal text and the utility text
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: what? so i can see my inventory and scans at all times while i can still type and read everything?
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're not going to use the space for normal text, then there's no benefit of miniwindow versus putting a window there
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: the miniwindow takes less space
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: how do i change it into a normal window? like what came with mush, i like my map out of my main screen
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: and you cant accidently type in them due to focus
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: what fed said
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: minis were meant to go on the assumption that many of the lines don't happen to go to the end of the line
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i can see usefulness in miniwindows just it annoyed me when i had problems with how i'd like it setup
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fedraz, you can tell MUSH to never accidentally type in windows due to focus
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: how
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: file -> global prefs
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: ive looked, im blind
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all typing goes to command
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: i do have a question, why does it always take you off where you type when you go to recall point?
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aps, do what I just said and typing will always go to where you type :-)
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: ok ive done that, you mentioned it before...i dunno what causes the issue then but sopmetimes I get crap that I typed like DAYS ago pop up
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, never heard of that
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: youve seen me do it, well...ive done it when you were on at any rate. Youll see my say in a random channel things like scanrun3nsleepkill
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: its embarassing
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i've had the same issues at times fed lol
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: it doesn't seem to be resolvable in mush, at least not with how i set it up
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: maybe a search of history keyboard command your hitting?
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I don't think I've ever had that issue.  Occasionally when I paste something into the command line, I'll get random stuff at the beginning of the line.  But that's only if I accidentally hit tab, too.
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: yeah, my goofs don't generally end up in a chat
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: oh mine do...I got lucky today and when it happened (2x) it wasnt prefaced with a chan so I just got a "LOLO nice command, retard" message back
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: doesn't seem there is a stats mini window plug in yet.
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: I was just looking at the stats window, it has a buuuunch of crap I dont need to see all the time. Gonna slim that down I think
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: if I were smart, I'd like to find a way to put things like XP TnL, Alignment, Level and maybe gold in the bottom bar where HP/Mana/Moves are and discard the stats window entirely
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: hey, any of you guys know how to grab these mushclient MCL/media center files and convert them for linux?
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i tried opening one but it went into some strange alien windows world that i never used
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: media center files?  What?
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: just open it as text
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: no clue what you're talking about
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: type - windows media center mcl file
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: MUSHclient's mcl files are really just xml files.
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: for mushclient
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pico filename.mcl...it's a world file
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: oh, well i could probably use grep and sed or something then dump the alias commands to a text file for us then eh?
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: yeah, still on windows yet, but getting ready to convert slowly
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: its just a text file, open it with notepad
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: sbiggsoltron:~$ file .wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/MUSHclient/worlds/Aardwolf\ -\ Balaam.MCL  \\ .wine/drive_c/Program Files/MUSHclient/worlds/Aardwolf - Balaam.MCL: XML
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: notepad on linux?
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: they are xml.  :p
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: he said he's still in windows
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: ok , thanks guys, that's all i needed to know, whether it's some windows secret technology, or if it's a fancy text file
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: umm...  neither.  It's just an xml file.
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i got like.. an alias for every portal i got, so it'd be a pita to redo it
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: an alias for every portal?
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: yeah, type in an area name, and it grabs the portal from a bag, enters it and stuff
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: what exactly are you redoing? it sounds like you're going from mush in windows to linux?
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: globbed commands
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: yeah, mush on windows to linux soon
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just copy the files
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nothing to redo
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: It runs fine on wine.  Just copy the files.
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: nothing to "convert" just load it in wine
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: alright, so long as wine doesn't make my computer unneccessarily vulnerable to windows exploits, i guess that's all contained in a user account
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: one reason i wouldn't use wine, only one really
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wine isn't windows
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i guess exploits would have to be written to exploit linux filesystems from a windows program though
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: you mean like not u nderstanding wtf an exploit is?
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: for that type of thing
T1/r7/2009-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: got some stack protection on linux anyways if i want, and other stuff
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Remember back in these days?! http://www.memelo.org/harddrive.jpg
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I don't think I was alive.
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: That implies that you are alive currently.
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: A 10MB hard drive for $3200...
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik looks at Daloran and goes "Hmmmm."
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Oh, that's a bunch of crap. Download MSN 7.0 (I happen to like that better) and I get this nice message saying 'There's a newer version. You MUST download it to continue.' Not a 'Would you like to download it?' but a 'You MUST download it.' *sigh*
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: given it's reliant on a free msn-provided network, they're entitled to make you
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Yeah, I know. Still crappy.
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I use Pidgin if you now seek an alternative in retaliation.
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I might. :P
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i think i'm going to give up reccommending open office and give IBM's freebie a try instead
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: What's IBM's freebie one?
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: open office just isn't compatible enough with MS office for small business use
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: can't remember it's name
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: There's StarOffice, but iirc it's not free anymore.
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: Lotus Symphony
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I'll look it up then. :)
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Interesting.
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: And that's Sun anyway, not IBM
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: symphony is ibm, not sun
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: I was talking about StarOffice.
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: we weren't
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: on a different vegetable, AMD sent me a CPU as a warranty replacement, and none of the boards i've tried it on will recognise it
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduka Tech: to double check this, in Lua This: local HealPotions = tonumber(GetVariable("Potions_Heal")) or 0 would do: get the number from potions_heal, if nothing is there then it equals 0. Am I right?
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduka Tech: kk
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: same thing if there is invalid data, like if Potions_Heal = "dancingrobots"
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon crosses her arms and nods slowly and sagely to Blessed Balaam.
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Everyone knows robots can't dance.
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: sure they can
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: If it said hamsters, on the other hand...
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: dancing robot hampsters?
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: There's no 'p'. :P
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: That makes it easier to clean the cage, I guess.
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon giggles at Blessed Balaam's actions.
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: and I always thought that spelling tests should be graded on creativity.
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: they should be marked on accuracy
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduka Tech: o.O
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: which is why all Americans would fail
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Balaam, you know the Samuel Clemens quote, right?
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Andrew Jackson: It is a damn poor mind indeed which can't think of at least two ways to spell any word.
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: a cop out
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: and just because you can think of two ways you could spell a word, doesn't mean they're both correct
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon pats Feral Farkyss on his head.
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: We should go back to middle English, where there were no strict rules on spelling.
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Kickin it real old school.
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: back? you'd need to go forward to proper English first
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: I recall one highschool vocabulary quiz where we had the word "circumnavigate"...
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Had to use it in a sentence... so someone wrote that "Magellan circumcised the world"
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: In 80 days.
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: Sounds painful.
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: With a giant Clipper, no less.
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Is that what happened to the polar ice caps?  They actually just got clipped off?
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon crosses her arms and nods slowly and sagely to Blessed Balaam.
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Proof that global warming is a phallacy.
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: wait...  that's not right.
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: God, the puns.
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: We should take this to gossip or something. :P
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: or curse, since I'm kinda skirting the line here.
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: True. You always were one for skirts.
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Quite true.
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: can't work out why the speed of this hdd under benchmarks is so low
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: ahh, much much better
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: anyone have any suggestions for good desktop callendar/organizer software for win XP? I'm using 
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: anyone have any suggestions for good desktop callendar/organizer software for win XP? I'm using 
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: meh
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: i use active desktop calendar but it sucks
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: Use your char desc
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: ...right
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: anyone here know javascript, or good and diagnosing jscript problems?
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: anyone here good with javascript that can lend a quick hand? this is a simple fix i'm just a retard and can't do
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baroqen Tech: what's the problem?
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i borrowed a twitter script off of a website, all i changed were the twitter user names in the code. for some reason, it quit loading the most up to date tweets, but on the site i got it from it works just fine. i don't think it's a code problem... looking for insight
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i'm also trying to figure out how the heck they coded a div into here, because i can't seem to find it
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baroqen Tech: hmm, i'm afraid that's beyond me.. never used twitter before
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: What's in the div? I don't know the API for twitter, but I guess I could look at it some.
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: there is no div, that's my problem. lol. the site just has ""<div class="tweet"></div>"" but no tweet div...
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i searched both js files and there are no div's labelled tweet.. i'm lost
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: when you switch on tags you get new stats bar, does anyone have a list of what all the numbers mean?
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: help statmon
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: thanks, i've been using the normal prompt for my bar but the statmon looks better
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: does the statmon update every tick?
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: every time  you would normally receive a prompt
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Sweet! If only everyone would do this... putting your signature as "I enjoy the massacre of ads. This sentence will slaughter ads without a messy bloodbath." will prevent Google ads from showing up in the receiver's inbox, though I suspect that if they reply to you, since it's already there, it won't show up on your end, either...
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Even just including those sentences in your email works.
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: is it possible in html to have a frame that is allowed to scroll vertically, but not horizontally?
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: nevermind.. auto works just fine... 
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: http://www.cracked.com/article_17603_6-modern-technologies-animals-invented-millions-years-ago.html
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: there some way to avoid the aardwolf chat script from cutting off the first word in a number of chats such as auction and music?
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Yes, Ode
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Fiendish has published a fix for that exact problem-- finger fiendish for the website, I believe.
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: suggestions number one?
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Huh?
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: very very lagged message got blinded lol
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Ah
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: then my spells all decided to run out one after another and i had spellup on haha but it was supposed to be funny  k i'm on his site see what i find
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: should i replace the bigmap too?
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i've had weird issues with the vanilla one
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Yes, it's a good idea
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: that seemed to fix it
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: thx, saved me the time chasing ghosts
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scarabee Tech: any1 knows whether you can use zmud or better still TF with this game - i only have the nmushclient
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: zmud of course
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: what's TF?  afaik any telnet client works
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: You can use any MUD client with Aardwolf
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: TF is TinyFugue
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Any telnet client would work too
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scarabee Tech: howto configure
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: See 'help port'
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: all the info you need is on the aardwolf site or as said above
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Err
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scarabee Tech: thks
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: See 'help ip'
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: It seems help port goes to something else :p
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scarabee Tech: heh, i noticed
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: you want help connect
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/07/090723113700.htm
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: silicon with afterburners
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: http://www.cracked.com/article_17606_7-high-tech-products-their-cheap-ass-ingredients.html
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: http://www.cracked.com/article_15767_p2.html   Third Reich to Fortune 500: Five Popular Brands the Nazis Gave Us
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: Bayer, the massive pharmaceutical company that's most famous for making Aspirin, also is behind such wonder drugs as Levitra and, at one time in their history, heroin.
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Bayer were in the business of getting rid of headaches
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: Then again, it's probably even worse to name your team after the company that made Zyklon B gas, the stuff that killed millions of people in the concentration camps. Yep, Bayer was once part of a large conglomerate, IG Farben, that churned out thousands of killer Zyklon-B gas canisters.
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: lemme guess you work for them and now you're disgruntled
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: this is something for debate or curse
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Xyliz: Don't police a channel when you are just as bad about doing the exact same thing
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: eh?  http://www.cracked.com/article_15767_p2.html
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what do you expect from someone taking their "news" stories from comics
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: ibm, bayer, looking through #3 now
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: but i wanna debate
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: lol, all that stuff is verifiable with google, or through history books
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: So debate and shut up, if the conversation originated out of a tech question, or involves a technical issue it is fine here. Its not like people with actual questions are being ignored
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: doesn't matter if it comes from comics or signs in the sky
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not really, kheftiu
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Besides, nobody listens to you anyways. xyliz
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: taking bits of truth and spinning it to be wholly false is not "verifiable"
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: lol, wholy false
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: that's what exxon pays fox news to report
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: IBM made punch card machines...whoa, nuke 'em!
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: and their monsanto politicians, and exxon scientists of environment
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: they serviced them on the concentration camps
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, a punch card serviceman worked on punch card machines...NUKE EM!
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: When Hitler rose to power in the 1930s, it was the signal for the Siemens executives to start building factories, and nowhere was the real estate better than near the homey neighborhoods of Auschwitz and Buchenwald.
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm sure some bad people have bought Dells, and done bad things using them...Nuke them too!
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: you mean companies engage in war profiteering? This isnt exactly breaking news
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because I'm sure that nobody can buy computer products without the CEO of the company signing papers that he agrees with their politics
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Galirawin Tech: isn't there a "debate" channel?
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: While their guns and propensity for genocide probably handled all required respect commanding just fine, the black uniforms did soak up sunlight during the summer months, causing the wearer to sweat uncomfortably and stink like a pack of Mongolian shit-camels. Members of the Hitler Youth were also decked out in Boss wear, teaching children an early lesson in looking good whilst beating up minorities.
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: apparently its spelled TECH today...
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: nope, Darkknowing insists that the Tech channel is okay
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Galirawin Tech: ah, my bad
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: respect my ahthoritay
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fedraz stands up from his wheel chair and throws a brick at The All Darkknowing's head!
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Galirawin Tech: 'Debate' is apparently for: Debating Channel / Politics 
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: But, it was really designed as a tool for everyday life in the always-cheerful Third Reich. Give credit to Porsche for designing a car so impossibly cute that we forget it was built by diseased slaves in some dark, dank factory in Stuttgart, Germany.
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: is there a copy and paste channel?
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: http://www.cracked.com/article_15767_third-reich-fortune-500-five-popular-brands-nazis-gave-us.html
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: Yes, it's called trivia.
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: ah
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: And its not so much that i insist its ok, i just insist that everyone don't do what Xyliz says
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: too bad not one of the brands the Nazis gave us are actually brands that the Nazis gave us...
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: nazi uboats had hydrogen peroxide powered turbines
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i wonder why h2o2 isn't used today
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: oxygen and water vapour emissions, don't kill enough stuff i guess
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: the oil companys lobby against it
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: a rocket scientist made a car that can accelerate from 0-450 mph in 4 seconds
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: of h2o2
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: that one is about viability
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: The g force of that would rip a man in two
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: h2o2 is powerful because it's highly unstable and dangerous
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: yeah, not getting on anybody's ass, i seen them articles on the internets and they were news to me
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the h2o2 you get at the drugstore is 2% or so iirc
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: properly designed engines would; harness that fine
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're not news, they're jokes
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: look at gasoline, cover something in it and it dies, light a match and it burns
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, they wouldn't
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: h2o2 doesn't even have to burn to provide force
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gasoline is extremely safe compared to h2o2
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: then why can i buy a jug of it to put on my cuts
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: fun with copy and paste...Hydrogen peroxide leaks were blamed for the sinkings of HMS Sidon and the Russian submarine Kursk.
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i imagine if i tossed some petro on there i'd get blood poisoning
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because that jug isn't shit for potency...read above :P
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: H2O2 used as fuel is extremely dangerous to handle
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pure h2o2, used for rockets, is NASTY
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: and how many vehicles and oil spills in the history of petro
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and it'd clean your cuts right off
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i imagine that number is a inverse exponent
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: xyliz, spoken on a channel, is extremely dangerous and painful to listen to
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: along with your skin and anything underneath
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: even 30% H2O2 is nasty
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and DK, having even LESS knowledge that xyliz, is quite a feat
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: than*
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: please stop getting your news and ideas from satirical websites, its silly
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i'm thinking of the 0 carbon footprint for energy creation
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: that's more friendly than 3 headed nuclear fish
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: now he's getting it from the simpsons
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: whats a troll again? I forgot
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: well, to make light of the side effects, the reality's horrendous
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: news from cracked humor websites is often more palatable than that from stark grim websites
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: imo, there's not enough responsible scientists evaluating details and hypothesis of impacts of these technologies
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: when they don't want something released, they'll 'study it' for decades, till it's forgotten
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: palatable? who gives a crap about palatable when talking about news? Personally I prefer accurate and intelligebnt
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: though it's a viable superior form of the source effects
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: scientists who don't take bribes, and aren't evil are the ones who's opinions count
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: and they report the news for CRACKED...
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: you should mosey over to debate
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: Good thing they invented the evil dipstick tester.
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: since money began, honesty has been on the backburner, when it impacts a convenience of the elite
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i think they're workin on that, they've been studying emt scans and stuff of peoples brains while lying 
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's thinking with your dipstick, jimmy!
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You flick your whip across his bare back. 
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: maybe they can have some mandatory 6 month non-invasive scans of brain patterns for the people making the big decisions
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: You're being waaaay too idealistic. Heh.
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: And impractical.
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: they got a experiment city built now with a negative carbon footprint
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: they're gonna run it for a couple years and show how the lifestyles of people aren't hindered by not burning chemicals
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: something to capitalize on, if you value the water, maybe
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i don't think chlorine is more than a temporary fix to water contamination
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: over time chlorine and water react into other chemicals, could fluctuate greatly in any time frame
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: chlorine reacts with water?
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: chloroform is produced
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: which is a very bad thing for the ozone, used to be used as a anaesthetic, but now is used in the production of rubber
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: how is that so?
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: h2o + Cl != CHCl3
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: http://toxsci.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/5/2/305
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: eh, maybe it's not a reaction of water and chlorine, but only something to do with chlorine breaking down
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: on the brittanica encyclopedia, the safe level's listed at something like 500 ppb
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i'm not a chemist
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: please stop talking out your ass
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}October November Tech: its impossible to talk out your ass, you have no vocal cords or tongue to form words.
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: or at leaset do it on a channel I wont feel bad about closing
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it's a reaction of chlorine with other organic substances, not water
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if the water was clean it wouldn't have a problem
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: the downside to drinking city water, surrounding non-city water sources by feedlots and other chemical spraying
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: it's about the bill, 30 bucks per person per month times 5 million
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: CHCl3 is carbon trichloride
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: that's my idea anyways, after all, the lifeforms chemicals are designed to destroy have proven to develop resistance to extinction
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: but, the doctor prescribes 2 shots instead of one
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: no xyliz
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: there's been organic solutions for millenia, but instead of using them and building on them, they're supplanted by synthetic proprietary, agent orange stuff
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: carbon trichloride is CCl3
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: the official name for chloroform is trichloromethane
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i can't remember seeing 1 frog this year
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: used to be thousands of them
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Carbon is tetravalent not trivalent
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: exactly
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: monsanto's roundup contains a penetrating agent that eats the skin of reptiles and amphibians
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: even the herbicide
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so your carbon trichloride doesn't exist except in laboratory conditions :)
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: mosquitoes?  what's gonna eat em
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: slaughter of the food chain
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: Dragonflies eat mosquitos.
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: so CCl3 does not exist except as a radical -CCl3
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: yeah, that's true, but there used to be more than only dragonflies to control their population
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: Certain birds also eat mosquitoes.
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: does anyone know how to enable smooth scrolling in mush? Or is it an aard thingie?
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: file -> global preferences
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: thanks!
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the general tab, checkbox for smoother scrolling
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Anyone know of a good media conversion software to change AVI files to MPEG2?
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: whatcha trying to do, Ini? Burn a VCD or something?
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Trying to just burn a dvd so I can watch it in my dvd player, but Windows DVD Maker won't burn AVI filed apparently
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Just burning it in DivX Player now, going to see if that'll work in my DVD player
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: So burning it in DivX didn't work, will I have to convert the file type for it to be able to play in a DVD player?
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: does anyone know if there is a stats to miniwindow plugin?
T1/r7/2009-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: www.mushclient.com, click "search", type miniwindow stats...
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i think after a week, windows is designed to crash
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i could keep linux runnin with a lower power state for like a month and more, but windows, it snowballs and crashes after awhile
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: maybe something to do with software updates
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Gremlins think Windows is tastier.
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduka Tech: Gremlins in windows, how very nice. Glad I run linux.
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: *cough*fanboy*cough*
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I'm running both Ubuntu and Windows right now.  Same box.  Yay finally getting more RAM.
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: whenever i install a unix box i usually try and make it secure before using it, which usually involves installing it on the whole disk
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: multi-booting's fine if both operating systems are secure though
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i guess encrypting the filesystem would help it out, but that'd still rely on ignorance
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: every moment from installation to extallation, and purging of the hard disk, i assume i'm hacked on a windows box
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: allowing myself the illusion of security, is not lookin at slashdot or securityfocus
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Your computer is not secure.  It's turned on and plugged into the Intarwebs.
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: true that, internet's a giant security hole, but having the protection to keep out the majority of malicious hackers would make it less of a pita
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: they're not all binary einsteins with molecular silicon skillz
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: openbsd has a nice firewall integrated into itself, if i had the hardware i'd set upa  router with that on it
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: everyone is after your lucky charms. right?
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i understand the paranoia on windows, but who would ever root your worthless linux install?
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Anyone familiar with setting up an SMTP server? specifically postfix, under Ubuntu
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fyng Tech: I've recently bought an Intel motherboard, but lost the diagram that explains where to plug the 3/4 pin wires for the heatsink...can I get that diagram off the Internet?
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: normally yes
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: usually you look for the manual
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: fan headers are usually easy to identify on a board
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fyng Tech: Well, it's the first PC I build so I don't have any experience.
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone able to answer a brief windows networking question?
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: shared printer on a xp home pc. two laptops with vista hb refuse to see it
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no firewall on the xp pc, all pc's can see each other with a 'net view'
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: same problem with Vista
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Did you install the driver for the printer on the Vista computers?
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: drivers good, it's a firewall or port block on mine
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Is the printer Vista certfied?
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: certified, even.
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: no chance
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: or browse, you get a Logon failure: the user has not been granted the requested logon type at this computer
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Just read that unless the printer is Vista certified, you won't get it to share from an XP network.
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: cllear up these ports:  UDP 137, UDP 138, UDP 445, and TCP 139, and TCP 445
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Blessed Balaam rapidly nods twice at Charitable Charneus, in complete agreement.
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: got vista drivers, the drivers aren't the issue for me
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: alternatively, you could try setting it up as a postscript printer, if that option is available.
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Take a look at this and see if this helps? http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb727037.aspx
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: doesnt really help i'm afraid
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Meh. That sucks, then. :\
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: gonna try resetting the stacks, see if that helps
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods.
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polander Tech: is there any way to get the map to stay on all the time on the fmud client 
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: hey got a quick question, if i'm buying a new graphics card  what do i need to be sure of in terms of compatibility?
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: pins
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: just the PCI slot?
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Length of the card if you have a smaller case
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: The 8800gtx was huge.
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: But yeah, in general, just the slot type
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: this one doesn't look any huger than the one i already have (it was huge too i think or at least looks big in my minicase)
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: buy from hallmark, and make sure it has the love on it
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polander Tech: off
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: no worries about OS support or anything?
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: And power requirements too, I suppose
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i have 700 watts so i'm fine
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: And the obvious stuff...like make sure you have the correct bus and power connectors if the card requires additional input.
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: well my board is like 5 years old intel, it has a pci express card right now
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: and this one is pci 2.0 x16 which i have one slot of, it's compatible at least
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: well cool then thanks
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: worst that happens if i send it back hehe
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piston Tech: twitter has been hacked and is kaput
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yay?
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Breast Feeder Tech: facebook is also pretty hosed
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: They are also being sued for patent infringement!
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Twitter, that is
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piston Tech: i agree let them die
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Any tt users?
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Breast Feeder Tech: Ah they are getting DDOSed
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Breast Feeder Tech: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/06/AR2009080601482.html
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Well, do any of you have a clue, as to why i can #write <file name>, and when i go to #read it next time i load the client, all my changes are NOT saved and i have to redo them?
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: My new dual 22" Samsung LCD setup makes for sum SERIOUS MUDDINZ!!!!
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piston Tech: right on
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: C= Amigan is jealous.
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Unhelper] Morinon Tech: Is that supposed to be C+, Amigan?
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Monitor 2 = Movies between quests and the 'grand mapometer'.
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}C= Amigan Tech: its the Commodore logo
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Anyone else feel like we're living in The Matrix these days? o_O
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Unhelper] Morinon Tech: hoshi! I just saw a bunch of 1s and 0s!
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Exactly!
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: monkey's have practiced geophagy for perhaps hundreds of thousands or millions of years, to activate anti-malarial drugs in plants, before consuming them
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: dr.monkey :_)
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Is it against any kinds of laws to use a proxy to view region-locked videos?
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: I'm sure it is.
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Oh how I hate Hulu. Is there a quick, easy and legal way to circumvent the region-locking-thingie?
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: uhh it depends a) what you call legal  and b) what you call quick and easy
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: region locking for what? DVD's?
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Quick and easy: Less than hour. Legal: NOT illegal.
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Seeing as how we're barred from discussing illegal things on the public channels.
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I mean, at this rate, Hulu and all other "View TV shows for free... but only in the U.S.!" sites are basically driving me towards actual illegal downloading.
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's down to licensing laws imposed on them, not because they're being annoying
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: BBC is the same
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: its nowhere near as bad as espn360
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: yup
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: they tell you to call your cable company to have them buy the service of espn360.com
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Fine, the stupid licensing laws are driving me towards illegal downloading.
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: No way am I waiting for weeks, months or YEARS for Swedish channels to catch up, that is if they're even airing the shows I wanna watch.
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: but in reality they are making you raise your own cable bill when the cable company coughs up $5mil or whatever in licensing fees
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: you had no joy going through a proxy Yuna?
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: yuna works for hulu i mean
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: use bittorrent
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: what's that gonna do?
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: any idea why #beep wouldn't work on zmud?
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: Can someone lead me to the spellup plugin for MUSH?
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=8780
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?id=8780&page=1
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: lol, touche!
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: I dont use the one he has though, I use a modde done linked in the thread
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: modded one*
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: page 2 or 3
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acolyte Noro Tech: Does anyone have a Campaign tracking script for Zmud/Cmud they'd be willing to share?
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Mandy Mandorallen Tech: Anyone with experience with screen readers know if an Javascript visibility change (e.g. toggling div.style.display from 'none' to 'block') will cause the reader to read the new div?
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Good evening, fellow denizens of aardwolf. Anyone have any recommended paths to obtain general PHP skills?
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: other than obvious smart ass answers like "a php book?"
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: LRN2PHP.
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Well, While I accept your smartass answer of "a php book" I was hoping for something possibly more specific
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: give yourself a goal, a project to work on.
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: read the scripts that come with a webserver?
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: much easier to learn that way.
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: hey, I wasn't done .. :)
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Fair enough =)
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Is the more specific smartass answer of "an O'Reilley PHP book?" better?
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: harrrr.
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Php in a nutshell? o_O
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: http://www.w3schools.com/PHP/DEfaULT.asP
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: huzzah for links. 
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mathoran Tech: I'm looking for some clues to a problem I'm having. I have a webapp deployed to Tomcat. This webapp contains a handful of RESTful web services that each have an injected DAO (using Spring). The DAO has read-only methods to an Oracle database. If I call each web service separately then the response is 200-300ms. If I call all five concurrently, they each take 2-3s to return.
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: solution:  call all five concurrently.
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mathoran Tech: I don't really know where to look. The DAOs are stateless, I don't have any synchronized code as far as I know.
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: anyone know of an autohunt script for MUSH that works? I've tried a couple and none seem to work...It wont move me outta the room I'm currently in
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Not that hard to make
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: the only issue actually comes from nopass doors
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Learn From Einstein Tech: is anyone else having insane problems converting *.mdb files into *.dbm files in cmud 3.10a
T1/r7/2009-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ren *.mdb *.dbm =o
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Anyone know if the hotmail smtp server requires SSL? or know of a free smtp server that doesn't?
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Gmail doesn't require SSL
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It does, unless I'm missing something? requires secure connection
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Hotmail is a major pain to setup through a client. You should try using a plugin or something to get that going if you must.
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Hotmail doesn't provide a free smtp server (or maybe not any at all?)
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i didn't have a problem with ohtmail through it
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik sits down and thinks deeply. 
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: you just gotta do a turing test once in awhile
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon failed a Turing test.
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Hotmail closed smtp for newer accounts, if you still have it for free you're lucky.
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Maybe I'm wrong, I don't use it
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I'm looking for something I can use with blat, to send quick messages from a command prompt
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Oh, okay Hypo-- thst sounds familiar.
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Ya, it's a bummer. They charge for an smtp service now :P
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I thought they used to charge, then made it free..
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Naw, other way around.
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: so do american ISPs not provide SMTP or are you knocking off your neighbour's wireless again?
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And sorry, I think I said SSH.. I meant SSL
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: SMTPs that require SSL, yes...
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: outgoing 25, uses ssl, incoming 995, uses ssl
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: pop3.live.com
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Same thing, requires SSL =p
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Rock an old mail account through a university.
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: need something sans ssl
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Just telnet and send the mail manually
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Okay, telnet+manual sending still requires an open SMTP server =p
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Universities tend to block access to their SMTP server to within their network.
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: No, it doesn't. You telnet into the mx server of that site.
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Their smtp port isn't open
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: You need to dig for it first.
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Use "dig -mx <site>"
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Dig?
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Yep.
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ok, let me rephrase. What is dig?
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Speaking of digg... we should submit Aardwolf to digg.com one day, and all digg it so we get to the front page for half an hour or so!
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Interrogates the DNS name server.
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon nods at Horizontal HyPo.
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ok, I have no such program dig
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Wtb linux!
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Get it :P
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: It should come with the dnsutils package
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: XP, Ola
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Cygwin then!
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: you can run it through cygwin then
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: also sam spade might have it
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Or something like putty.
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon crosses her arms and nods slowly and sagely to Daloran.
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Sam spade does, sure.
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Or check it on a site online, I thik
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: ya, im sure you can dig through java apps
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Also, this is kind of a single address use, no?
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Single site use. Not single address.
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: .. Semantics, but close enough.. was hoping for a more general solution
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: You could set up a bash script that would look up the mx site for whatever domain..
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ... Sounds like an aweful round about way to go about finding an SMTP relay =p
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Heh.
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Am I wrong..?
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Run Linux and use the "mail" command :P
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: That's why I was saying to use a shell in a university or summat.
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Rockin the mail command.
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Seems like their smtp ports are blocked, or running on something other then port 25, anyway
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Did you dig their mx server?
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Most sites' mail exchange addresses /aren't/ just blah.com
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod...... supposedly it is smtp-bb.vtext.com
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Learn From Einstein Tech: anyone having problems with cmud 3.10a being unable to convert *.mdb files?
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: http://www.red-pill.eu/freeunix.shtml you could check out something like this to find some shell account with email on it too
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i used to use one of these type of webmails
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Still wouldn't quite work, though
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neleus Tech: what's the command in mush to send a CR?  I forgot, and I have it sending a \
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neleus Tech: a semicolon which has it turning on and off the gtell channel
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: You mean you want to stack commands?
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: You have to turn that option on in the world properties
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduka Tech: if you're wanting to stack commands you need to enable it. Look in world properties>commands.
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: And you can choose any character you want!
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: What Aduka said, too!
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aduka goes back to scripting.
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Avoid ESD. Hack mostly naked. 
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: or completely covered in latex.
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Sounds like some wierd fetish I'd rather not be a part of =p
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sacathean Tech: or just abstain
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sacathean Tech: like in sex ed class          just abstain and be a virgin forever
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and stuff
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: mis
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Well, some stuff is technology...
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: someone do a quick bit of maths for me
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what's the mean amplituted of a sin wave?
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: That wave should repent!
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: amplitude, even
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GentooX hands over a calculator to tiger nuts
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: actually, before someone tries to be a smart arse, let me rephrase, what's the mean absolute value of a sin wave
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon peers intently at Tigernuts.
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the mean amplitude is the area under the sine wave ?
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no?
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: 0?
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: 0?
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: tech that is something that those that study electricity know
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: it goes from -1 to +1 in a circle like fashion
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: thats why i asked for the mean absolute amplitude
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: which isn't 0
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: The mean amplitude is zero for one cycle, therefore the absolute mean amplitude is also 0.
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i.e the mean |sin x|
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: Yeah, depends on how many cycles you take
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no it isn't
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: then you get to give us the time
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: over one cycle
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: if you just say mean. i assume its one cycle
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: |sin x| is never less than 0
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon peers intently at Tigernuts.
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: So you want... *boggles* /why/ would you want to average the absolute value of sin?
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: to try and figure out how badly advertising reps are exagerating the output of a UPS
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: then that would mean.  in a quarter cycle it goes from 0 to 1. average is 0.5 multiple it by 4, divide it by 4, i think its 0.5
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: makes more sense
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: why 1/4 cycle?
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: that's exactly what was said before, so I don't see how it can make more sense
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: because |sin x| can never be negative
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: likely either (sqrt(2))/2  or pi/4
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: |anything| can never be negative either
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: but then I don't know how UPS work
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: if you take a full cycle the mean would 0
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: but yeah postive side only = 0.5
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: but nobody said 0.5
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the +ve cycle is more than 0.5
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: you said above, quote 'I think its 0.5)
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i just make that up by drawing |sin x| so i could be wrong
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and why is demon.net so utterly crap?
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: yes, so what is your point? lol
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: what is the +ve cycle then xyliz
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: the average value of |sin x| over complete number of cycles
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: I have to know now, even though this conversation died nearly 5 mins ago
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: bah, fine
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=mean+of+|sin+x|
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: ......
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: not sure if thats the mean of |sin x| or the meaning of life.
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: C-h wolfr
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: eh?
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Damn German keyboards.
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: 2/pi ?
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: I'm not in the mood for radians =/
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: I was just hoping for an integer to satiate my curiousity.
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: 63.66
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: opps its not an integer
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: strange though, from a purely visual perspective the line seems to spend more time below 0.5
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: lookin at the graph i on the link i give its 0.5 lol
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Not an Imm Erikson runs out of fingers counting the number of things wrong with this discussion...
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: educate us!
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: Hmm, I couldn't see .5
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: on that link
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: If you don't already know what RMS means or why it is (or isn't, depending on exactly what the point of the original question was), you're in no shape to understand the answer.
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: Bah, elitist.....
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: I dislike elitist people
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: ... "(why it is) _relevant_".  Darn coffeeless state.
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: And I dislike people who think eyeballing a graph tells them anything useful, or make statements about something related to AC with no knowledge of how it works.  So we're even.  But I'm better looking.
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: in english, if you cant understand what is a thief, you wont understand what a theft is?
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: Well no, if you'd read the thread you'd see I was pointing out that visually it seemed contrary to the info discovered.
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: In english, "the mean of sin x" is ambiguous in the first place, and inapplicable to discussions of the properties of alternating current in the second.
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: at the very least, you could give us perspective so we wont have to give wrong answers next time
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: You could just tell the answer instead of explaining to everyone why they aren't qualified to know
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: does that mean without the time element, it cant be computed / approximated?
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: He knows the answer but doesn't know the question yet
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: I think maybe he is scrolling up
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: he knows the question
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: No he doesn't, because the question has never been asked.
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: and he just gave the answer
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: http:/wapedia.mobi/en/XY_problem
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: Anyway, one day I might be qualified to learn maths, but now I shall go back to my peasant ways. It'll be a long day, still have to milk the cows and collect wheat from the farm
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the mean of |sin x| is likely 2/pi  and RMS is something different 
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: how badly advertising reps are exagerating the output of a UPS << i think this is the question
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: close, but that guy got bored
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Obviously, somewhere between "not at all" and "by a factor of 5E17".  How can that possibly be answered without even seeing what output figures are being quoted?
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: the question I was asking was, the mean value of |sin x| over a complete number of cycles
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: UPS ratings are generally given by their peak output assuming a PF of 1.  Reality falls somewhat short of that, but not by much with modern equipment.
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: out of pure curiosity
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Over N half cycles, it would be the same as over a single half cycle.  So calculate the Riemann integral over 0..pi.
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: That's how to calculate the answer, yeah.....
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: a Riemann integral as different to an ordinary integral 
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: I just wanted to know a figure
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: maybe stick in a Cauchy to be extra fancy
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: and not one in radians
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Well, do it from 0..180 then   :p
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: Just so I can go 'ohhh, thats nice' and then get on with my day
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: I'm not in the mood for integration right now
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: I just want an exciting story to tell my friends later
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GentooX falls down laughing.
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Well, it's good to know your limits.
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: Does nobody know? =/
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: I thought this would be something you guys just new offhand
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: omg he just gave you the answer :)
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Happydog Madcatz Tech: mean value of sin(x)?
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: he did? I thought he just gave me the bounds for an integral equation
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: of |sin x|
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Consulting the Mighty Oracle Google tells me http:/www.maths.abdn.ac.uk/~igc/tch/eg1006/notes/node66.html
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the Sine wave amplitude is 1, and the area under the sine wave from 0 to pi is 2 which is divided by the total area of the rectangle pi, so the area of sinewave occupies 2/pi of that rectangle enclosing the sine wave
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Happydog Madcatz Tech: Just integral from 0 to pi, divided by pi
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Not an Imm Erikson nods at Xyliz.
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: is 2/pi or 2/pi radians?
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Radians aren't a measure of area.
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: is a value 2/3.14 approximately 63.66
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: so the mean average value of |sin x| is 2/3.14
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: 2/pi is a ratio or fraction
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: yeah....thats where I was before
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: Then I made the (speculative) observation that looking at the graph I'd imagine that figure to be below 0.5
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Not an Imm Erikson raises an eyebrow at GentooX's weird actions.
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Happydog Madcatz Tech: 0.5 would be a triangle
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Happydog Madcatz Tech: That's inside the curve
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: 2/3.14 = 63.66?   :p
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: looking at a graph, the area is slightly above 0.5
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: percent of 1 =P
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Happydog Madcatz nods at Xyliz.
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: 63.66%
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: opps sorry meant in percentage
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: Ok, I get the triangle thing
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: Great, I'm so happy now
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: hurrah you can finally sleep :)
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: next: derive the RootMeanSquare equation or percentage of AC
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: another day
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: Gregor gametalks: for 1 tp, what is the mean value of |sin x| over a complete number of cycles expressed as an integer to 2significant figures
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: that was dumb
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: noone wants free tps
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: As an integer to 2 significant figures?  Obviously, 00.
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei rapidly nods twice at Not an Imm Erikson, in complete agreement.
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I was thinking the same :P
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: why 00?
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: that isn't free if you don't know how to figure it out
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Er, because the area is less than 1?
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: and i haven't been reading about it
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: oh shit
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: I mean
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: oh yeah
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: so I wonder if garl is right on gametalk
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the mean value of |sine x| 0.64 or 0.636619772
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: I think I'm just highly confused today
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: and what is 0.64 to two sf
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: just give me a free tp for your confusion lol
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: note that the | | eliminates the -ves, so tha anser is not 0
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: gregor thinks tech is the curse channel
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: Yeah.....
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: I'm really not thinking straight today
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: Can't believe I've been on tech all this time
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: like erikson said its best to know your limits
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the mean value of |sine x| is 0.636619772 to 9 significant figures
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: but what is that to 2sf?
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the mean value of |sine x| is 0.64 to 2 significant figures
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: I wonder if |cos x| average is the same
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Not an Imm Erikson waits 'till he gets to tangent.
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: yes, same, since the integral of sine X is -cos x
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: I think Erikson has something he wants to say about |tan x|
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iceman Tech: i'm glad i finished school.. an i thougth i'd never see those ever again :(
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iceman Tech: ever..
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: then eh, cotangent and the other two
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: secant
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Other TWO?  You're opening yourself up for a lawsuit for discrimination against arccosecants.
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: I only ever knew sin cos tan, and their inverses
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Happydog Madcatz Tech: Hyperbolic cosine is always fun
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: That's enough to keep me thoroughly entertained
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: http://scribalterror.blogs.com/scribal_terror/2005/04/exploding_ants.html
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: well, mean of tan x is 0
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: mut perhaps mean of |tan x| is infinity
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: look at the integral of Tan x
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: but*
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: gregor simplicity is not equal to complexity *grins
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: eh? =/
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: I mean sure, its possible to just crunch formulae until you are not sure which way is up but....I like to think about these things a bit and understand if I can
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: maths without specific numbers
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: No, that's always a mistake.  You just end up in solipsism, then you wake up hungover in a gutter.
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: almost making me turn off tech channel
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: this is curse chan
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: (or DO you?  Maybe you're just imagining it.  That's what I kept telling the headache...)
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: so I'm going with my hunch that mean of /tan x/ is infinitely large
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Wait, now you've moved from absolute values to regular expressions.  I dunno if you can do that.
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: its much easier to learn from regular expressions I think
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: kind of what I was saying above
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: infinity hmmmmm
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: is the integral of Tan(x)  Log(Cos(x)) 
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: I found out that with the martingale strategy, so long as you have infinite money you can beat the house however bad the odds are
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: i think i you double down in roulette you'll win eventualy if you can afford it
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Happydog Madcatz Tech: Which is why virtually every casino has a betting limit
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: some limits stretch pretty far though
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: pokies are meybe better bet :P
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Happydog Madcatz Tech: But no matter what the betting limit is, eventually the Martingale will break if there is one, and when it does, you'll be hung out to dry
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: say you have 50% chance to win (which you don't), I figured probability of going broke must be (1/2)^n where n is the number of bets you can afford to make with your bankroll
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Happydog Madcatz Tech: Not quite
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: and how much does double down win after ricking 2^^n -> 1
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: if you don't believe in statistics, and if the dealer's not a crook, you got an equal chance at winning every second hand
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Happydog Madcatz Tech: It's (1/2)^(log base 2 (betting limit or bankroll, whichever is lower))
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Happydog Madcatz Tech: Er...
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: if I play lotto,  and bet the same numbers evertime does that increase my odds of winning?
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: damn gotta eat lunch brb
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Happydog Madcatz Tech: It's (1/2)^(log base 2 ((betting limit or bankroll, whichever is lower)/starting bet))
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Happydog Madcatz Tech: There we go
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: probably not, i figure lotto's rigged too
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: it's a trade secret if it is or not
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: I just figure the odds from my point of view get better with every time
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: it isn't that you're choosing the same number, it is that you're playing more times
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: doesn't matter what number you choose. it is the fact you've played more times
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i'd never play an electronic slot machine
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: pseudo random numbers, aren't random
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: say pick a number 1 out of 10 you have a 10% chance of winning, you choose 1 looses, you choose 1 again still only a 10% chance of winning that game
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: rigged gears are easy too for them olden money hoggers
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Happydog Madcatz Tech: Hmm, you're not going to play mine when it comes into Aard? :(
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: the machine decides, well you just won, so because you won this time, i'll add 1
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: but surly each time I pick same number the odds of ME hitting it increase
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: not the number, the odds are increased because you've played more games
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Happydog Madcatz Tech: <insert cliche plug for test port here>
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: right like you said, gotcha
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i remembers seein some of them carnival tricks the gamble stations set up on their roulette and stuff
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: guaranteed profit
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: double down is crazy betting, since that eventually favours the house when the limit is reached
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: didn't know about limit
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: when the gambler runs out of money is another limit
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: gambling without an edge is a losing proposition
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Happydog Madcatz Tech: doubling down can get expensive quick.  If you start with a $2 bet, if you lose 10 times in a row, you're up to a $2000 bet
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: back
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Happydog Madcatz Tech: Another 10, and you're up to a $2,000,000 bet
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: so what was incorrect with my (1/2)^n formula =D
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Happydog Madcatz Tech: Because if you have $2,000,000, you only have to lose 19 times in a row to lose your entire bankroll, even though you have a million "bets" worth of money
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Happydog Madcatz Tech: With a $2 bet
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: my formula assumes you always double
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: that bastard lied to me!
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: so at $1 bets, $7 is 3 bets
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: $1, $2, $4 etc
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: anf if the gambler wins at the 2048 bet, the amount won was 2 and the amount risked was 4094
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Happydog Madcatz Tech: And my formula is the one that gives you "3" for n :P
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: the cheetah serpent
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Happydog Madcatz Tech: Nothing "wrong" with yours, you just have to figure out n first.
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: so you don't need to caculate how many bets you can make first basically?
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Happydog Madcatz Tech: Right
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: roger =)
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: although of course, noone has infinite money
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: unless you are playing roulette at your own casino =/
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: the guy who invented money did
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i'll invent an equal and just system of money, and make sure that i always have an infinite supply
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: I'm gonna build a casino and play roulette at my own table
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: I'll be so rich
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Happydog Madcatz Tech: And no casino has an infinite betting limit, either ;)
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i wonder what the people thought of his idea
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Happydog Madcatz Tech: So, even if you had infinite money, you couldn't find a casino to employ the system at
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: My one will ;)
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: you give us paper, we give you gold
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if somebody is already rich, there is no requirement to gamble
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: and we buy sprinklings of gold tossed on some brass for a million x profit
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: having some lustworthy, bloodthirsty killers backin the hells angel always helped
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: when you play chess against yourself are you the winner or loser?
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: we are legion, you are the serpent king
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: the spread of disruptancy
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: when playing voth sides of a chess game, the chess game is likely flawed
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: like a solar flare, radiating from the eyes of hell
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Happydog Madcatz Tech: I've tried.  It doesn't work too well.
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i'll project the world as i want to see it, and squish you in the process
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: legions descend
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: now we're civilized
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: if you gamble with other peoples money it's still +EV
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: when grandmaster plays both sides of a chess game, the chess game is less likely to be as flawed
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: to play roulette
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: money's nothing, except dead trees
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: they quit printing it on hemp back when the pulpmaster made it illegal in the 20's
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: well its still not +EV, but its not -EV either
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: who needs oxygen, when we can have money
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: its like |-EV|
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: those that gamble with others money are more likely to be reckless
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: gonna have to rename the 20's to the 1920's sooner
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: maybe, but if you are using a set strategy such as martingale recklessness doesn't factor
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: a century of glorious concupiscience in the bowels of hell
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Happydog Madcatz Tech: There's a whole industry of backing "horses" in online poker on various online poker sites
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: shat into the grave goes the hero
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Happydog Madcatz Tech: And some work quite well, evidently
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: lmao
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: j/k, i like money
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: you mean staking?
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Happydog Madcatz rapidly nods twice at Bad4ss Gregor, in complete agreement.
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: 2^20/123 * 456 ^ 3
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: plenty of free money to be had online
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: so long as you play cards or gamble with it first
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: that's why so many americans invest oversease
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Happydog Madcatz Tech: If you're good enough to say, get an 15% ROI in big stake tourneys, but don't have the cash to play them, you can get someone to stake you, and split the profit, and you both make a 7% ROI
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: I don't like the idea of being staked when there are so many free bankrolls about
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: plus I'd feel bad losing someone elses money...honest
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: might send me on tilt
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: lol, all them gamblers can borrow money from the casino, since they're connected
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: who's losin?
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: oh damn, there goes my borrowed million
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: made you spend your life savings though didn't i
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: temptation and the loins of satan's prize
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: as a reward .. he disappears and another takes his place
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: crooked cocksuckers and the monopoly of meat
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iceman Tech: o.O
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: you don't figure satan's cock's straight do you?
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: walk with me in hell
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: they'll suck it, till they realize they're fucked
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: then they'll be erased
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: snakes must not master the snake
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iceman Tech: i think you're looking for da >>>CURSE<<< channel yes/no?
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: oh yeah
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: mind games are technology too
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: that's why microsoft exists
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iceman Tech: the nerds be too quiet.. think you scared em
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: I thought this was curse
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fyng Tech: Is there a program that displays monthly internet download/upload activity?
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: your ISp certainly monitors those metrics whether they share them with you or not.
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i have the toughest tech question of the year for you
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: the answer is yes
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: vista hb machine whose spider solitaire (and similar) games won't save
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinky Hexa Tech: won't save new results?
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: won't save game on exit
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and no option to save/load game from ingame menu
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: score file write protected? or directory?
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nope
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinky Hexa Tech: has it previously worked?
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ye
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinky Hexa Tech: any old save in the folder: %userprofile%\Saved Games\Microsoft Games\Spider Solitaire ?
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinky Hexa Tech: ...and have you tried deleting it?
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinky Hexa Tech: you could also try removing all files in %userprofile%\AppData\Local\Microsoft Games\Spider Solitaire but that will most likely reset all your scores as well (If memory serves me right)
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: trying, one sec
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinky Hexa Tech: do tell how it went :)
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i deleted from both locations, when i loaded it up, it'd reset the settings as predicted, offered to let me save it when i exited, but when i went back in, no option to load, and didn't load the saved game
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and isn't saving the game even though it offers
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinky Hexa Tech: hmm
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 97 on the list of things that would never happen on a xp pc
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinky Hexa Tech: Tigernuts: did it create a save file under Saved Games?
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nope
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinky Hexa Tech: I'd almost suggest sacrificing a black rooster next :p
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinky Hexa Tech: oh, does it save if you run as admin?
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no saved game files if run as admin
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: No keyboard detected, press F1 to continue
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: well that's pretty smart
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: No mouse detected, click here to continue anyways
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i like press "any" key to continue
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: my onld 95 seriously says that, and i can't find a mouse for it
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i likely have a mouse for it :D
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: I ctrl and alt, but where is the any key?!>
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: the keyboard i'm using which is rather advanced, it's a better keyboard i think than the g15 which i think is kinda made cheap tbh but it came with a trackball mouse of all things  it looks like it belongs with lotus or win95
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: also, lotus 1 2 3! still has an option in microsoft excel to export your spreadsheets to it
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: How can I open a new window in Mushclient for a new port?
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ImoChiz Tech: file > world > open world
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: wonder why it is that laser printer toner cartridges now cost more than the printers do
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunloon Tech: Does anyone know how to use CMUD?
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ImoChiz Tech: Alor of people do. No need to ask to ask, just ask your question and see if you get an answer
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ImoChiz Tech: Alot*
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunloon Tech: Does anyone know how to change the default keypad movements in CMUD?
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: anyone know if all 3g routers are compatible with each other?
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: anyone familiar with MUSH around?
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, also just ask your question. don't ask to ask ;)
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: using Execute in an alias, command works on command line but not with Execute in alias. command is alias in plugin
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: if that makes any sense
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: how do i copy a line from telnet to notepad?
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: that's client-specific, i think
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: oh
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: is there any way to still retain my original data on an external HDD after installing Ubuntu on it?
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: partition it first into a dos / ntfs fs, and use the rest for ubuntu
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: retain or retrieve or access
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: means there's some data on the external HDD but i want to install ubuntu on it without losing that data
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: partition magic might let you resize it
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: then just shrink it with the files you want to save and use the rest for ubuntu
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: defrag the data first
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ledneh Tech: am I going crazy or does windows 7 not have any basic cd burning capability at all
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: they removed iso image burning from the 2003 server tools from vista
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: probably trying to capitalize on the cd burning market
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: pissed me off i had to download a 300 mb nero trial to burn a cd
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ledneh Tech: well I can burn ISOs fine actually, I just can't right click->send to CD anymore
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ledneh Tech: for some reason
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ledneh Tech: which I KNOW I could do in vista
T1/r7/2009-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: oh, that's cool, i can only burn data on vista
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduka Tech: for some reason this trigger isn't working. Anyone happen to notice anything wrong with it? ^You buy (\d+) \* (.*) from .* for (\d+) gold\.$
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Learn From Einstein Tech: anyone here happens to have cmud 3.08
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: is there a much command to clear the screen
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunloon Tech: Hi Gentoox use cls
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunloon Tech: Hi Gentoox use clsskills
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunloon Tech: opps sorry wrong tell
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: gmm
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: yes lunloon
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: anyone using Cmud on?
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: I am having trouble setting my macros to the F1 - F12 keys. any suggestions
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Depending on your client, it may not allow those keys to be over-ridden
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: using Cmud. 
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: thanks though
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: bah, i turned off the sleep stuff for my computer, kept the trigger on to not idle out, and still i got disconnected
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: power outage, or does windows have a secret thing to turn off the network 
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i can keep a bit torrent download goin overnight and it dosn't shut of
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: in MUSH there is an option somewhere to hide Line Information where your cursor is, I cant seem to find it atm..anyone know offhand where?
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: nvm, found it
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alechin Tech: anyone knows how to disabe the big map plugin?
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus is looking for a variation of clip2net, a program that allows you to click an icon, select a box, and a screenshot just in that box is captured. Then, it allows it to publish directly to the host site under your own account. Must allow editing before publishing. Clip2Net seems to have broken.
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: No suggestions? Meh...
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Sorry charn, don't know of anything
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus grins evilly.
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: It's frustrating. Don't know why it quit working. Just doesn't publish anymore. Hmm.
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Ah, figured it out. Silly me. Changed my password on the site, didn't change it in the program.
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Galirawin Tech: passwords - I hate them
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piston Tech: change your password to i hate passwords
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: So... If I wanted to track something, Temperture, what would be a good way of storing the information? XMl? SQL? 
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: so, i'm in mush, and i installed a minimap plugin by accident, but now i can't get rid of it or it messes up my regular map plugin
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: any suggestions?
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alechin Tech: i would like to know what is the substution syntax in Mush aliases. If I want to write a simple alias which only fingers someone, f.ex. i want to "finger player" but i wish to use the shortcut "fr" for finger. It should be something like %1 i think.  
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: can anybody help with the minimap problem?
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I need someone to help me test something. It will only take a few seconds. All you need is a web browser. Anyone available and willing?
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: get out here with your backdoorz.
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: what you need? i have noscript mind u
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: lol I figured Id tease him... cant touch my comp its a fortress
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: so can anybody help with a minimap problem
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: ?
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Ya know, Proview pisses me off. I tell them I need a PL482i monitor driver, it gives me the page for it. I scour the page, looking for a clickable link to download the blasted driver... NOTHING. Just the manual. *sigh*
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: click where it says file
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: oh thats the fn manual?
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: thats crappy
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: nvm its the driver http://www.proview.net/Support/Download_DR.aspx?sn=419
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Yeah.
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Tells me the file size, tells me all kinds of information, but doesn't give me the damned file.
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: well, I downloaded it, 68k
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus blinks innocently at Fedraz.
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: You downloaded the driver?!
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduka Tech: Yeah, click the green floppy icon.
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: I believe so, its not any kind of doc
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: . o O (  ) Habasi giggles.
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I don't see any green floppy icon...
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: PL482i Driver-ENG(ver.1.0) English 68K
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduka Tech: do you see where it says file? Below that.
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: GASP! It's missing in Firefox, but shows up in IE!
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: im using FF :P
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduka Tech: showing up in my firefox o.O
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: WTF?
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Hold on.
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: anyway, glad you got it now
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: http://clip2net.com/clip/m11837/1249782258-clip-10kb.png -- That's what I see in Firefox...
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: haha that is the icon
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduka Tech: Internet hates you char =/
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: where it sayd file should be flopy icon right below
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods at Fedraz.
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Yeah. Found it under IE, but... wow... 
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: you have JS on or off?
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: JS is on.
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Hah. All that trouble, and Windows won't install it. It claims that 'Generic PnP Monitor' is the best driver avaialble...
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: override
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Just tried. Told me the data is invalid. *sigh* Time to see if I can fix it. :P
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: so can anybody help me with my minimap problem?
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: youve asked several times yrt not once detailed your prob or even the client you use
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: yet*
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: actually i did
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: alright, i'm in mush
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: i mustra missed it
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: man i cant type...whats the iissue
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: and i accidentally installed a minimap plugin
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: i wanna get rid of it
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: but when i try it stops the pre-installed map from working too
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: what plugin did you add?
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: miniwin_map
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: disable it, then remove it. Then reinstall the orig
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: remove the minimap plugin, then reload the other map plugin
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: displays a minimap in my aardwolf world
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: woo!
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: thanks you guys
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: i just tried reenabling the old one instead of reinstalling
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: so long as it worked, idc what you did :P
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: anyone had problems with the newest version of firefox deciding not to display images that previously worked?
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: negative
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: what version you run
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: says 3.0.13, on XP/SP3
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: not really a solution, but you should likely update
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: closing and restarting firefox does fix the issue, but it's annoying to have to do that every couple of hours. :p
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: ack! when did 3.5 come out?
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: 1-2 wks
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: dont remember
T1/r7/2009-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: ya sounds right
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: So, stupid question. How serious of a virus am i looking at that won't allow startup?
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sacathean Tech: that succks
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Define "won't allow", and tell us why you think it's a virus.
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: many things won't allow startup, doesn't necessarily mean virus
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: My laptop is running through startup repair. It tries to start upo, then start over and says startupo failed.
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Oh, that's a very serious virus.
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sacathean Tech: missing something
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: It goes by the name "Vista"
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon stares at the sky.
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mathoran Tech: Could be faulty hardware, do you have anything else to make you think it's a virus?
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: Installed any new hard/software recently?
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: My laptop is running through startup repair. It tries to start upo, then start over and says startup failed.
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: I plan to just reformat IF i can get to that point, unlkess you can suggest something else
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: When you reformat, put a decent OS on it
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: Windows 7 RC1
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saric Tech: ubuntu =P
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: If i knew anything enough to do it, i would go liunux or ubuntu ... not vista
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: ubuntu's surprisingly easy to set up
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Ubuntu is very user-friendly
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Anything trumps vista
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: It's almost anti-Linux in that way ;)
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: that's why it's gotten so popular
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A bright, shiny gold halo appears over Apprentice Oladon's head.
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: But no, in all seriousness Ubuntu is a decent "intro to Linux" distro
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: How would i change my OS?
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduka Tech: Ubuntu is decent. I'm running it, have for a year or so off and on. What you don't figure out they have a very user friendly community on thier forum that helps answer questions.
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saric Tech: download an ubuntu cd
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Go to the Ubuntu website -- I'm sure they have a reformat instructions page
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: Make sure it's Ubuntu 9.04
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Keep in mind that if you need a lot of Windows-specific software, you might want to dual boot.
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: the installer's pretty simple...
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Well at this point, i would be happy enough going back to xp 
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon nods at The All Darkknowing.
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: If i can get on long enough to get my scripts ill just system restore
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mathoran Tech: Is your laptop 32-bit or 64? I haven't had any problems with 64-bit Vista on my gaming machine
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: DK, you can use a live CD to get your stuff off
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: At least i have discs this time
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: that's an option too, DK...I use xp exclusively here until last week...
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Though seriously at this point i need more hands on help than a tech channel ... like a phone call
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: If it wasn't midnight i would take it into the shop in town
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: what happened?
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Can't startup, im on the desktop right now
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: DK, have you tried going into safe mode?
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: could be a failing drive, too.
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Yes
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Safe mode, restore mode, last known good config etc
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: Vista is notorious for felling drives.
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Hmm, if i can get logged on long enough, ill just format to ubuntu. But if its a really nasty virus will it still get rid of it?
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Lemme go get the laptop, might be able to log now
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: You don't have to log in to reformat.
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: What anti-viral client do you have installed?
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: And no, it won't survive a complete format. :P
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Ok,  and the best way to completely reformat?
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: But neither will any of your personal files -- so like I said, try to log into safe mode, and then try booting from a CD or USB disk to get your stuff off
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: If i can get logged long enough ill email myself my scripts
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: I already have backups of everything else
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: You could try and install an anti-virus client to see if you could rid it anyway.
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: He can't log in, Seraion :P
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: How hopeful should i be of "Atempting repairs"?
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: Bah, didn't see that part.
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: don't most AV companies make boot AV scan disks?
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Depends, Blainer... the best AVs don't come on CDs :P
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Well, i have a restart disk, but thats my last resort
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: DK, does a system restore fix the problem?
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: My laptop is f-d in the system restore department. It never works
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: So i have monthly backup discs
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: You also haven't told us why you think it's a virus.
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: But, all my script are less than a month old
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: The split second of blue scrren of death right before it restarts leads me to the virus conclusion
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: BSOD != virus.
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: BSOD is very rarely associated with a virus
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: What did you do right before it happened?
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: sounds more like a hardware failure
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: its usually software or hardware mess up
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Install anything new? Browse questionable websites?
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon nods at Kalsch.
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Nothing, this is the first time i fully shut down in months
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: Hm...
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: not necessarily virus. I just had one I dealt with that was doing that because the hard drive was dying
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: overheating perhaps?
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: nods, right click on My Computer, Properties, Startup and Recovery and turn off auto restart
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon rapidly nods twice at Lacrimosa, in complete agreement.
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: you'll be able to read the BSOD and find out what's dieing
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: HD dying would be my guess.
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Gonf: he can't boot :P
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: how old is the machine?
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Cant read it, literally a split second then gone
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: maybe pull out all but one stick of ram try boot, do that for all hardware see if you get it going
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Brand new as of christmas
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: What HD in it?
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: No idea....
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: A tiny drive like that, spinning 5400 time a minute for weeks on end combined with the heat would do that...
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: That'd be about the time the whole thing was going down with the Seagates.
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Im not that technically adept
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: what brand/model laptop?
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: DK, it should be on the paperwork that came with the machine
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: oh this is laptop prob... I'm out :)
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Pentium2duo, compaq presario
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: presario what?
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: That's not the model...
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Idk, im looking for the paperwork
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: presario is part of it, but just the series...
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: or do you have a service tag number on it?
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: It doesnt say the model name along the border of the monitor or above the kboard?
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: They've been making "Presarios" for umm... over 10 years :P
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: well repairs were done, its trying to boot right now
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: No BSOD so far
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: that's good, but be sure to back up your stuff RIGHT AWAY. If it's a HD issue, it can mess up again right away
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: SHE BOOTED!
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Good, back up your stuff and then go into System and tell us what HD is in there.
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: good start...now get your scripts immediately.
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Screw it, backing up, emailing and formatting to ubunut
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Ow, hot as crap
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: Well, it seems we've figured it out.
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Stupid laptop cooler quit working like 2 months ago
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: and its sticky from the coffee, oh and I dropped a hammer on it
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: ...
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: You could've told us that in the beginning.
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Does it hold that much relavence?
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: -t
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: you wouldn't belive the crap I've done to my laptop and it stills goes liek the day I bought it
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: your fan going out does
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: yeah, likely a heat issue--be careful you're not frying your components with too much heat
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Yes, DK. Computers overheat...
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: yes, failing fans = failing hardward
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon nods at Lywryn.
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Note to self, shutdown daily
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: DK: if it's still under warranty, you should send it in and have them fix the fan.
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: or get a new laptop cooler...
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: if you can get heat monitoring software for the motherboard (laptop) model you have
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Its not under waranty anymore
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: I got it christmas,  it was purchased in july
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Ah. Well, you should take it to a shop then and have them replace the fan.
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: sounds like it's breaking down, right on schedule :P
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: is it the one of the fans that is not going?
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon nods at The Ateam.
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: still, fans aren't horribly expensive, nor too difficult to replace.
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: I don't wind windows, just vista ... any /easy/ way to dowgrade back to vista?
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Oh, im going to get it fully fixed but the OS just isn't to my liking
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: are we still talking about your laptop?
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Yes
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: you mean to go back to vista after you replace the fan right? :p
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: Win 7.
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Would it be in poor taste to ask someone on here to help me make a gainreport plugin for another MUD? There's people here that can help, but the other MUD is too small...
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: go to win7 or xp, not vista... and on a machine a year old, it should be able to handle win7.
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: Min: 512-1GB RAM, 40GB HDD
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: just go with xp till win 7 is released, no point putting on an OS that'll expire
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: What bloatware...
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: isn't win7 out?
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon is running the latest version of Linux on a 12 year old laptop.
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: the beta
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: only for the manufacturers and those who have technet
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: better to go with vista, it doesn't have all the new bugs in it
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: grats oladon
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Vista has all the old bugs on it :P
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon beams a smile at Ageha.
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: yeah, linux runs on ancient equipment...
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: I dual boot debian (Lenny ppc) and OS X :P
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: first linux i installed was wood y
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: the p3/1.0 with 512MB (board max) FLIES...
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: But if you want to talk about proof that MS is bloatware... my comp is pretty much all you need :P
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: i can't wait for win7
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: and the MS marketing wagon carries on, release a dud OS so you'll be happy with the "fixed" version :P
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon nods at The Ateam.
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Would it be in poor taste to ask someone on here to help me make a gainreport plugin for another MUD? There's people here that can help, but the other MUD is too small...
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Noodlez: Somewhat yes, but im sure someone would help, if they actually played that mud
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: But why go anywhere but aard
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: i came here from another mud cause the other one sucked
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: ic ame here, tried other muds, then came back
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: I still love my other MUD, just no one on there knows anything about anything as far as scripts go.
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: you'll probably get the most support by going to the forums of your mud client and asking there for help
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Most of them don't even know how to do triggers.
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: Noodlez I'll help if I can
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: send Tell with what you need
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: only 2 muds i played and liked are this and wotmud
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: and the wheel of time series might be discontinued, so i'm not sure how long that one'll last
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: wocmud was my first, i played for 5 minutes and quit, then i found this one
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i like wotmud, items aren't level based
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: and you can kick anybody's bumtox with a nice backstab
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: I got my character rejected on Isildur so came here :/
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: i use to play solace
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Learn From Einstein Tech: is there a way to use the item serial number from invdata to put the item into a container?
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Yes...
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Learn From Einstein Tech: how? when i type: put 178812141 backpack, it says "you don't have that"
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: It's not available. :P
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Learn From Einstein Tech: even though 178812141 is the serial number of an item i am holding
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: At least, not on the player level.
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Learn From Einstein Tech: ah.. sigh
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Invdata isn't even a publicized command yet because it isn't complete.
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: That's why there are no help files for it yet. ;)
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Learn From Einstein Tech: haha yeah
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Ohh
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Oh, my bad -- you can't use them to manipulate containers yet
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Right. I can't wait for that day to happen, though.
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: It will make manipulating items SO much easier.
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Not to mention tpenchanting the proper item, or changing flags, etc.
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Learn From Einstein Tech: yep haha 
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: wtf? ie8 now refuses to render apostrophe's correctly
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: how do i put an apostrophe into a webpage without ie8 treating it as some weird square character instead
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fyng Tech: How do I disable the Bigmap window in the AardMushclient?
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acolyte Noro Tech: File > Plugins > Disable bigmap
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: need help with mushclient with one thing
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: might be an easy one.
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: what kind of help?
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: trigger looks like this Moonbeam                 :   1%             1
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: and it pracs it 3 times
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: but i want to change it so it looks like this
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: Moonbeam                 :   1%
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: and it should still work
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: is there any thing like an & or something i could put behind
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: so trigger still works?
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: i'm not really sure
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: i know zmud got %1
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: you could trigger a LUA program
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: i dont know what you mean
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: i want help with mushclient
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: is there any symbol like %1 on mushclient
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: that's the only thing i want to know
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: %#'s are references to your groups '()
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: %#'s are references to your groups '()' in your trigger
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: so %# works?
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: at the menu on top game>edit script file , look at the sample programs 
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: do you mean this? >> Moonbeam                 :   *
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: i'm not that handy myopic
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: dude if I can...
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: yes it might be like that
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: myopic i don't have sample scripts  that option is greyed out
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: gonna try
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: Zax, have you read the scripting tutorial for Mushclient?  http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=6030
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: no and i wont do that either
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: i will not understand
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: only thing that works on me is to get it explained
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: I'm sorry.
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: okay, good luck!
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: yes pretty stupid tried to learn before but couldnt
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: Ode I'm at a loss , I loaded MUSHCLIENT and it was there
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: because you have a script file 
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: thanks gentoox
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: works very good.
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: you are welcome
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: and everyone else for helping me out
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: it was there when i downloaded Ode, I don't know why you don't have a sample
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i dont have a sample as well
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: if i want to set 'cast ballistic attack' to a shortcut, like 'ballis' how do i do it?
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: make an alias
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: or bind it to a key with a macro
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: thank you
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: ther's a group of programmers that are trying to ban IE6
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: eh?
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: called Microsoft?
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it's an improvement on ie8
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: no, it's some web developers that apparently want every page to be html5 with flashy things that aren't flash
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: its really dumb frontpage news on cnn.com
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: slow news day, eh?
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i dunno, it's kinda dumb if you're a corp and your website excludes browsers, i still use ie6 and had i run into stuff like that i generally don't use their services
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: there's no excuse really
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i never understood what was wrong with either using what else is out there, these programmers were complaining it was too hard and annoying to code
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i really hate going to a site and having to get 2-3 minutes of flash garbage before getting to the actual site lol
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: it really can't be that hard even if they went html5, make a very simple html4 site...it can be no frills...apparently these people aren't fans of typing at all even though enterprise editions of software pratically write basic websites for you
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: at any rate, thought it was a stupid/funny story about programmers complaining lol
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i usually end up complaining about how new browsers dont' work properly, not the other way around
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: it's why i use old browsers, i've bulletproofed em
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i still use ff2 cause more recent updates made the memory leaks worse/slower
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: ie7 ftw
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: meh i can't stand ie7
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: ie7 to me is too much of an attempt to make ie firefox which for me anyway is pointless
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nothing wrong with it
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: well the ram usage expoentially increased from ie6 to ie7
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i didn't notice that
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: on lower spec comps, an old labtop we have for instance it lags like hell takes nearly 100mb
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: my ie takes about 10
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: if you have the ram/don't care about the tiniest bit of speed decrease  it does work but i also have to deal with computers at university
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: which they decided to put vista on with 1/2gb of ram and onboard graphics
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: 20meg
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: running ie7 on those or any demanding prog is slow as hell
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: well thats more about your universities procurement staff being retarded and needing sacking
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: their hands are tied
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: it's dell's fault
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: no, they aren't
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: dell don't decide what you get
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: uhh dell does decide what they support
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: so you're telling me dell doesn't sell pc's with more than 1/2 gb of ram?
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: and they only offered them vista + like 3 choices of machines
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: no
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: university could get by fine on unix, with an x-server and free stuff
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: that'd probably cut the profits down by a few million though
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: well you're wrong, your uni got screwed over by the people in charge of their IT contracts
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i prefer windows, i don't understand what was wrong with xp
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i agree with that fark
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: usually down to some retard looking for the cheapest option without taking in consideration whether it'll actualyl work
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: they're under really dumb contracts but they do have full coverage of their machines
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: bingo
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: they actually upgraded ram to go vista
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: when i was at uni in 2001 our department actually had some sensible people doing the procurement, hence we had some decent pcs
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: instead of buying new rigs, these comps are at least 5 years old and weren't top of the line then
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: most of the best computer, all of the best computer, science books i read are for unix and unix-like systems
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: that's what it felt like to me as well
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: it doesn't need to be the "best" to not take 5 minutes to get to the desktop
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: just clicky this little button and magic happens
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it pretty much sums up how retarded they must have been when tehy decided to upgrade existing pcs and stick vista on them instead of replacing them, which'd cost very little more
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: these comps ran reasonably fast on xp, it was a terrible decision to use vista, we also have 50% mac's which nobody really uses that has a brain
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i can't see some dna sequencer running on vista
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: unless it's 1/1000 the speed of the one running on unix
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: but i care nothing about that kheft, i'd like to print something in under 2 minutes
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: instead of 10
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seranoma Tech: are there any auction plugins for mushclient?
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: Since the 'Chats' window is catching all of my chats, should they be appearing in my main window? (MUSH)?
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seranoma Tech: they do for me, wish they didn't
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: They might be. There's generally a toggle for that option in most chat scripts.
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: Mine are. Was wondering if I could push them to chat window only.
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: Should be able to, maybe a MUSH user will come pop in and give specifics ;)
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: Any MUSH users amongst us?
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: likely several, ask your question
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm not a MUSH user, but the answer is "chats echo off"
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: I want to push all chats to the 'Chat' window only.
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: Well I'll be damned.
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that answer is also in the chats plugin helps, as well as on the aard website's page on the plugins
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seranoma Tech: chats echo off  --> only show in the other window
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: wth, Abes response showed up before the dudes question on my screen
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: Well, now they're being replaced with a blank line.
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: He's just that good.
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: Abe is good
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: laff
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fedraz, he asked the question before asking if there were MUSH users
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: ah..sorry had much Curse chan spam
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I would have stuck with 'HOLY COW, ABE IS PSYCHIC!'
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seranoma Tech: that's kind of more annoying to have a blank line every so often :p
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: there is a plugin to omit blank lines
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: What is it?
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: you may have it, just need to enable it ig you have the Aard Mush client
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: "plugin" sounds like such a cumbersome word to fix a tiny problem like that...
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: if*
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: HAH! Found it. 
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seraion does the happydance with everyone !
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seranoma Tech: yay that's better
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you may be happier with just compact mode
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I find that truly getting rid of all blank lines makes the MUD less readable for me
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: Abelinc's learned to become content with his own compact mode.
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cain killd Abelinc stuffs Argot into a briefcase
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: So has his wife. ;)
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Argot giggles.
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: Where would I find all the color names I can use in..LUA I guess. I am messing about in some plugins. Also where would I find a list of things like stat.hitroll, stat.align blah blah
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for the stat.stuff, look at the stats detector plugin
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: ya..not quite what I was aiming for
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: oh I take that back
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: the colours: create an alias to call the script function PickColour()
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The colour is specified by colour name - you can use the MUSHclient colour picker to see all possible colour names, or type: world.Debug "colours". You can also specify colours in HTML format
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: ok. thanks guys. I am trying to put all info I want at a glance on the infobar and just make a miniwindow for stats like STR/Dex/ etc
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that was from the in-MUSH helps for colourtell
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: I am so fail at this
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when miniwindows were coded into MUSH, Gammon's showing of it was a miniwindow status plugin ;-)
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=8817 (found by going to www.mushclient.com, clicking search, and typing miniwindow status)
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: the info in that "stats miniwindow" is what already is on the infobar
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're going to use the variables from the stats detector plugin within another plugin, make sure that you use the OnPluginBroadcast function to grab the variables each time it gets a statmon update
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: cool, I am several weeks from trying the miniwindow thing unless I can more or less copy and paste/modify something existing. Reading any kind of code makes my eyes bleed :(
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: and ya..compact > the omit blank lines plugin. Never knew that existed
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: on tt++ gag removes the text but still prints a blank line, does anyone know how to get rid of the line completely?
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: gag the blank line as well
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: that was my solution, Tutal... I run #gag{^^} (will be #gag{^$} when I get around to upgrading
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: text games are typically double-spaced, so what you are seeing the blank line between the line you gagged and either the prior line or last line in the buffer (ie, a blank line after)
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: ah that's what's happening, makes sense thanks
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: is there a way of gaging the extra space from the prompt without gagging every blank line?
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gag the one blank like after the prompt itself...a 1-shot trigger created upon the trapping of the prompt text
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: zmud also has a mechanism within its #gag where you can say #gag 2 or similar to gag both the matched and the next...dunno if tt++ has the same
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: you might be able to to #action {your prompt}{#show {your prompt;#line gag;#line gag}
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: where the first #line gag takes doesn't show the prompt that was sent by the mud, and the 2nd one  doesn't show the blank line
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Ok, so all the plug-ins for aard, do I copy them in notepad then give them the .xml tag?
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it's got a link to it, right-click and save target as...if it's within the text part of a forum post, then yes
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: line gaging twice doesn't seem to work
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: mildly interesting. http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/08/08/which-search-engine-do-you-choose-in-the-blind-test/
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Did they scan to see how much adware each engine deposited?
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Is there a way to make a window "always on top" even if it isn't giving the native choice?
T1/r7/2009-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: anyone around who knows regex?
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: whats a good free client?
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nyarlathotep Tech: MUSHClient.
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: Mush.
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: telnet!
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: cool im using mush... is there a scirpt thing for this?
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: lol Ive used telnet before
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nyarlathotep Tech: If you asked me what a good client was regardless of price I'd still tell you to use it :P
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: yeah.
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: Scripting, plugins, triggers, ect.
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: yea... seems as good as zmud and cmud
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: check out the forums at the mushclient website.
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Damacius:  There is a whole website for the client.  Help files within the client, too.
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: how can i move this dll file to my windows/system32 folder?  it keeps saying I need permission, but i'm the only one who uses this computer, i'm the administrator
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: are you replacing an existing dll?
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: somehow my shdocvw.dll file got corrupted
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: You'll need to unload the previous dll first. Get a program like 'unlocker' to do so.
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: then it's probably in use.. use safe mode or trying to see what is using it
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: try*
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Delete your system32 folder, that'll fix all of your problems. LULZ JK
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: No real need to use safe mode. ;)
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: more like set your pc on fire ...^_^
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: ok, downloading Unlocker
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: yesm unlocker is good
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: it said an option was supposed to appear in a pop-up window when i right-click on the file, but there is no option
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: There's nothing that says 'Unlocker' on right-click?
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: no
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: and it's running my task tray
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Hmmmm. You're running Vista, right?
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: i don't even know what happened...i went to restart my computer, and all of a sudden it said there was a problem with one of my drives and it had to do a CHKDSK...it deleted some corrupted and orphan files, and then when it restarted, i got these messages about my shdocvw.dll file
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: We're going to try going around the right-click method.
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: i downloaded a replacement shdocvw.dll file and i'm trying to put it in my windows/system32 folder
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Instead of choosing Unlocker (since you can't find it in the right-click menu), choose "Open with -> Choose default program. Then uncheck the 'Always use selected program' box, then click Browse. You'll want to browse to the program files-> Unlocker directory. From there, choose Unlocker (not Unlocker Assistant).
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: ok, i did that
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: now all my dll files have the unlocker icon next to it
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: You didn't uncheck 'Alway use selected program' then... :P
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: We'll fix that in a minute, maybe. :P
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Anyway, now there should be a box that popped up with whatever is using that DLL.
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: well i went back and unchecked it...the icons are still all unlocker
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: no, nothing popped up
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Right, because it associates the program with it for now.
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Nothing popped up on it, period? Not even a box saying 'No handle found.' ?
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: nope
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: i really feel like i'm screwing up my computer here :(
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: maybe it doesn't run on 64-bit Vista...i've had some problems with that
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: mmmm does extended task manager exist for vista?
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: i have no idea
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: he could try using that and looking for handles on dll
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Let's get your dlls back to the program they're supposed to use first. Right-click, choose default program, go to System32, and choose cmd.exe.
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Make sure the box to always use IS selected.
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: ok, i got a DOS window opened up
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Yeah, no need to click on the dll if you can't get unlocker to locate it. Try rebooting your computer, though.
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Might need to do that anyway.
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: but i didn't really make any changes...i didn't replace the dll file
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Imzadi: Hes trying to get rid of you. *inno*
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I realize this. I'm just curious to why Unlocker doesn't have a shell command with it.
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: i don't know..i've already restarted my computer 3 times :(  the first time i did it was just because itunes updated
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: unlocker probably has a dll itself that needs to be registered
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: alll righty
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: be back in several minutes.
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: ok...restarted...still getting that dll error message :(
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Never said that part would be fixed. ;)
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: i'm a bit concerned though...changing it to cmd.exe changed the icon to something other than what it was when i first started...the dll icon used to have 2 gears on it, now it has a picture of a DOS window
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Explorer.exe uses shdocvw, as well as firefox, and I'm going to assume zMUD/IExplorer, though.
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: also, my computer had a little problem restarting...it stayed at a black screen for way longer than it should.  i thought something really bad had happened
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Nah. You didn't change anything core-value. Try right-clicking and seeing if you have the unlock option now.
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: when i go to "open With"...the Unlocker option is there
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus cheers and sings... he is just BURSTING with joy!
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: but that's because i chose that as one of the programs to use to open it
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: cmd.exe is also there
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Oh, it's under Open with, not under the regular right-click command.
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: ok, but choosing Unlocker does nothing
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: just like before
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: (And don't worry about the icon being different, by the way. You can manually change it back. It's just that when you change default programs, it defaults to that program's icon.)
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: but it should be opened with cmd.exe?
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: i just don't know what to do...i can't replace this freaking file :(
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: every now and then i get an error message that i have to keep clicking OK on...it keeps popping back up after i click OK
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Just a minute. Two other ways to fix that file. :P
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: all right, i'm ready :)
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: One way is going to be downloading Internet Explorer and re-installing it.
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: oy.
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: The other way is through Windows Update (online, I believe) because it should be able to detect missing/corrupt files.
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: i just updated windows yesterday
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: whichever is the easier way
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: i don't even use Internet explorer
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Do you have Internet Explorer currently downloaded?
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: i have it on my computer...it came with it
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Do you know what version?
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: 7
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: i opened it up...god is that program annoying
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: typing SFC /SCANNOW at the command prompt with admin rights will scan and attempt to repair corrupted dlls and other system files
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: you mean in cmd.exe?
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Not that easy with shdocvw. :P
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: oh.
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: ok, so what do i do now?
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: is it part of IE?
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Download the latest version of Internet Explorer from Microsoft. Don't have to use it, but sometimes, it's good to have it around. ;)
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Lywryn: It is, yes.
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: should i uninstall the previous version?
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: No need to.
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: oh, you'd be suprised how much windows actually depends on IE..
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods at Lywryn.
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: it says this download does not support 64-bit Vista
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: i'm about to hit my head against the wall here :(
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: found the 64-bit version
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: it wasn't the main one on the page
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: You have 64-bit Vista?
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Cool. :P
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Cool story, bro
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: ok, it's installing IE
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: restarting computer again..*sigh*
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: it said it was installed without the updates...it tried downloading them and couldn't
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: well, installing IE8 did nothing :( still getting that dll error message
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Time to reformat, then! *inno* (Just kidding. Hmmm.)
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: when i restart it's associated with TeaTimer, which is a part of Spybot...i also got the message when i started up itunes after installing the update
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: does anyone know what tools where use to make the screencast on http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=9617  ?
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ikaruga Tech: Any tech guys around?
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ikaruga Tech: Is there a way to make the mccpclient run but not be on my task bar on the bottom? Using windows xp
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ikaruga Tech: Don't want to accidentally close it
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: without recoding it to run as a service, no
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Get a minimize to tray program. :P
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you could use a client that had mccp built in
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ikaruga Tech: I would if I wasn't so used to this one :( I'll grab one of those programs
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: thought all major clients had it built in these days
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ikaruga Tech: I use wintin95, it's really old and they don't update it anymore
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all major clients do have it built in these days ;-)
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wintin++ is better, and is fully tt++...
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ikaruga Tech: Maybe I'll try it :P tray will work for now, thanks
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger arkanes for a much newer/better mccp proxy program, one which does minimize to taskbar and has a checkbox to start up in minimized mode
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err does minimize to tray
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ikaruga Tech: Oo, k.  Thanks
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WetLarcenist Tech: does anyone use the mushclient on linux through wine?  when i use the help command the client crashes
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: disable the help plugin
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WetLarcenist Tech: thank you
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: Bah, what was that chat echo command again?
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's listed on the "mushclient on wine" page
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: chats echo on/off
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: Thanks.
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: listed on the plugin info page on the aard website ;-)
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: Is there any way to make that permanent?
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: you using aard's mush client wet?
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: seraion, change 1 line in the plugin
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WetLarcenist Tech: yea
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: it may not like the help popup plugin
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WetLarcenist Tech: thanks guys i think i disabled it
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to make chats echo off by default, go about 1/3rd of the way down, to where the <script> part starts...just after the "require" lines, there's a line "echo = true"...change that to false
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: Thanks, Abelinc.
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-)
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedos Tech: Does anyone know how in the Aardwolf client, one initiates an alias within an alias? 
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: In a script, or just in the alias window?
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedos Tech: there must be some way to mark the alias so the client knows that it's an alias, not sent directly
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedos Tech: in a script
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: A couple of ways:
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You can either send to execute (rather than world), or there's a function, as well, I believe.  Let's see...
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: world.execute("blah") will do the trick, as well.
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedos Tech: hmm, so the command goes in ()?
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Nods, and within quotation marks, as well.
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: won't that process it like it's a command?
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: It'll process it just like you typed it into the command line.
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedos Tech: ok, that sent the command world.execute("rec") directly to the mud, and it didn't understand
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Oh, and whether or not you need the parentheses depends on your scripting language, Vaedos.
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedos Tech: rec stands for another of my aliases
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: What language are you using?
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedos Tech: I only really know tintin type
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedos Tech: hmm, there has to be a simpler solution, I'll read for awhile
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Are you sure this is in a script?  And not just the game->configure->aliases window?
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: vaedos is talking tintin, leinei is talking mush. meh
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedos Tech: yes, I'm in the aliases window
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: you want Send To Script with EnableAlias ("myalias", true) will enable an alias if you are using Lua
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: In the alias window, all you need to do is change the drop down "send to" box to execute, Vaedos.
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedos Tech: ok that sounds good, how do I enable aliases?
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: Lua is default aswell
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: And just type "rec" (without the quotes) to run that alias
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Er, type rec in the bottom window of that screen, I mean
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: In your main alias, change the "Send to" box to execute.  That should do it.
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: Leinei: won't that mean he needs to then use the script prefix to run the function, he is asking to enable an alias thats done with a function?
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I think he's just wanting to run one alias from another  alias
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I.e. have one alias call another one
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: He doesn't have a script -- he's just doing it from game->configure->aliases
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedos Tech: ok I got it, the dropdown menu to execute did the trick
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedos Tech: thanks for the help guys/gals! =)
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedos Tech: also, in the aardwolf client, is there a way to send multiple #'s of the same command?  In zmud it was #20 treat for example
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Don't know of a built-in command-line command to do it.  It might require writing your own function.  Not sure, though.
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I always just spam up arrow, enter
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: pretty sure there is but I've never used it
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: there is something like in the mushclient plugins repository, just visit mushclient home page
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: while you are there, you might as well update your client for some nifty features :)
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedos Tech: ok, maybe I can find a tintin compatiblility plugin so I don't have to learn a new language =)
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: not that i know of
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: There's a bunch of plugins already written that don't require any/much work at all :)
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: The MUSHclient site has most of them.
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: mine do :P
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Yeah, so do the ones I've written, but only because I'm the only one that uses them :P
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: share the bugs / wealth I say
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I tried releasing one of mine once, found out it didn't work as-written on anyone else's comp, and that there was a better version already out anyways
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Of course, this was like 5 years ago, and my first attempt at anything close to a complex script.
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: mine only works cos a cat ran across the keyboard
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedos Tech: what website do you guys reccomend for the plugins?
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: start on gammon.com.au
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: mushclient
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Mine made people recall every time they saw a moon rise/set
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei looks around and whistles innocently.
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedos Tech: ok, I found gammon on google, been looking through it
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: mine still spams scan all the damn time
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: start by getting the llatest version
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=6565
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: blainer, have you watch the video on how to make a plugin?
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: the first little bit, those vids are awsome btw
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: yes, do you know what screencast tool they used to do that?
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: specially those zooming parts
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: no idea, ask on one of the video threads
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i see, thanks :) vaedos, you should also check blainers plugin, they are great
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: btw I got whois into database and showing popup on scan window
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: it aint perfect but...
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: in time it will be
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: I plan to start again, I just want to add a couple of things before I re-start
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GentooX )
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: keep up the good work
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: I stopped writing the planning docs a third of the way throught the inv plugin so its a mess
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: thanks :)
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: hehe, cant resist to code?
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: yeah too much caffiene and next day and theres no ocmments and can't remeber why I set that var to that etc
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: takes twice as long as should to fix little things
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: i'm trying to get cartman's spellup script for tt++, i don't think #action {%%%0} works for newer versions, what could i change it to?
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedos Tech: is there any reason for keeping the big map on the Aardwolf client?  I see no real benefit to it
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: it looks sweet :P
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: the latest version is in miniwindow and trys to toggle on and off when outdoors
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: so I am goofing around with a plugin Nicg Gammon wrote for MUSH that gives you icons you can click on and all that jazz...but no icons I use showing up properly. Anyone know whay I may be doing wrong? They are all 32x32 png's
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: Nick even
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Are you using the newest version of MUSH?
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedos Tech: does anyone know how to send the {stats}192/108,27/13,26/12,177/134,110/103,145/131,100,100,98,145,219,You are Standing.,9999,3551/3551,2130/2130,2521/2560,582868,939,0,968,115,119,5 junk off?
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Type statmon.
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: 4.42
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: And it's not really junk. ;)
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedos Tech: that did it, thanks =)
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedos Tech: it is for me, I couldn't cope with the mush client, I'm an old dog I guess
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: they show up all garbled, maybe its a color issue?
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: mush feels like an old client to me
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedos Tech: what about turning off the channel echo {chan ch=tech}?
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedos Tech: switching to Aardwolf client, and then back to zmud really messes things up
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Not really
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: It just turns tags on
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: All you have to do is type 'tags off'
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedos Tech: ahh, that works
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedos Tech: thanks again!
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Yeah, doesn't mess anything up.. just uses something nice that zmud doesn't automatically use =P
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedos Tech: is it possible to configure zmud to make use of it, or is it a closed client mostly?
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: nice to use it with zmud...but you gott write the scripts
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedos Tech: ok, maybe after I play for a few months to make sure I like it enough first =)
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: I use at least some of the tags, mostly channels, to move my chatter and tells to other windows besides my combat...
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: wish the new commands for item serials would get finished
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: anyone have any word on those?
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: what are they supposed to do?
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: type invdata, it's your inv
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You can use those serial numbers already, can't you?
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: there no complete
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Works for all of the commands that I've ever used them for :P
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: can only use some commands with serials and none in bags
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: try lore
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Nods, I suppose I haven't tried that many commands :P
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: there not finished and I don't think their a priority
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Im your Huckleberry Tech: they're
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: they're a priority
T1/r7/2009-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: 0h
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deks Tech: bu
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pehry Tech: test
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GentooX looks to Pehry and raises her hand like a makeshift gun, mumbling what sounds like "Bang..."
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: sup pehry
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pehry Tech: I am undi, stupid no backspace
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pehry Tech: Hi
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: welcome to tech channel
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pehry Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pehry Tech: I'm trying to make telnet less annoyinh
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: oh, for starters type statmon
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: get a client program instead
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pehry Tech: I want to be able to log on at work, and I can't install anything there
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pehry Tech: or, well, I could, but that would be unwise
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: get a portable client
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: mush client 4.43 has a portable version
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Virion Tech: anyone here familiar with zmud mapper?
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: You can put several different clients on a USB stick-- one such is the latest version of MUSHclient (version 4.42) which doesn't require the registry.
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pehry Tech: I was thinking of using a thumb drive
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: agree rathnik
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Is MC 4.42 superior to the one written for Aard?
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: thumb drive=usb stick
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pehry Tech: yes I know
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: ehry thats great.  get a mushclient 4.43 and your are good to go.
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pehry Tech: I need something portable that works with linux
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: pank you can upgrade the aardclient to MC 4.43
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: ehry, mushclient works with linux through wine
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Spank: the Aardwolf version is simply an older version of MUSHclient that comes with broken plugins preinstalled.
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pehry Tech: yeah, no wine at work
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: tintin/tinyfugue would suit you best
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pehry Tech: tinyfugue lookaneat
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: maybe a tintin client running on your home box??
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: agree lacrimosa
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: play at work through home PC
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pehry Tech: at work I move around to different machines which may or may not be shipped out the next day
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: isn't that one of Abe's specialties?
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: so run tf at home via screen and ssh into it from each machine you're working on
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: pehry,  install tinyfugue at home, ssh from work, and you are good to go
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: what he said :)
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pehry Tech: cool, I have no idea how to do that.  that should be a neat project
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: it's really very easy indeed - screen has a small learning curve but it's well worth it
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: just install a *nix distro, ssh, screen and tinyfugue
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: ssh to home, connect to the screen running tf and presto, you can continue what you are doing at home *grins
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pehry Tech: I'm using Ubuntu Jaunty right now
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pehry Tech: I've been meaning to figure out ssh
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xenakis Tech: what's better tintin or tinyfuge?
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IRL female Mokg Tech: how do I lock my windows in mushclient?
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pehry Tech: Thanks for all the help everybody
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: okay an easy mushclient problem again. someone here that might help?
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: when i make regex trigger with cmud is there a special way to call on teh variable in the pattern besides the standard  
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: when i make regex trigger with cmud is there a special way to call on teh variable in the pattern besides the standard %1 %2
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: anyone using balaam's gainmonitor for mushclient? how do I get it to report?
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sect Tech: I'm using MUSHclient on wine in ubuntu, and it crashes when i try to read a help file.  Any suggestions?
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: disable the help plugin
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: it's a known flaw 
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Run it with the -wine option, see if that helps.
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: But nods, you'll find dozens of posts about it in the MUSHclient forums.
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sect Tech: I tried the -wine option and it didn't work.  where do i disable the plugin?
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: file->plugins
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Find the help one, click it, click disable/uninstall
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I so wanted to say "see help client faq"
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei looks around and whistles innocently.
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sect Tech: haha.  Ok its disabled and it works.  Thanks :)
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: anyone know where's the setting for right click menu active selection colour setting in windows xp?
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: there's bunch of other colour settings in the desktop prefs, but can't find that one there
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedos Tech: Using Zmud, I've managed to get all chats into a window, but they are colorless, and when I use the "ANSI trigger" it does a little color, but cuts off the message, showing only the channel, any clues here?
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: my mush seems to freeze temporarily during speedwalks... its never done that before :S any ideas?
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volans Tech: mine does too
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: I reckon its something to do with the bigmap
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: hmm i'll test it in a sec
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: mayhaps, moving, resizing the window or disabling the plugin
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: ah, yup
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: I think Fiendish has a better bigmap on his page, finger him for the url
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: i don't usually use it anyway, just hadn't disabled it
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IRL female Mokg Tech: is there a command with mushclient to add an alias like in zmud? such as #alias?
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: Yeah, but you have to set a script prefix first
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: and then write it in one of the languages that mush supports
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IRL female Mokg Tech: nod, thanks
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Anyone know if you can nest a #if within another #if in TinTin++?
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Fedraz, read what came AFTER that.
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: about 5.7
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: let's flame on 2 fronts! linux is so much better than windows. prove me wrong
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Linux is based on source code reverse engineered from windows, Its not even legal!
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ooh. have to remember that one :D
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joshu Tech: Um, no it's not.
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: THE RIAA WILL COME AFTER YOU, FOR STEALING WINDOWS
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: worked on joshu already :)
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joshu Tech: Did I miss something a page or two ago?
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Joshu, consider yourself trolled. ^_^ 
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joshu Tech: Oh. Neat.
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Linux wishes it could reverse engineer some stuff, though.
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Like video card drivers
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joshu Tech: Yeah, like ... you said it.
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not really. ati drivers suck, but nvidia has done a great job
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: If I could get MythTV working with a good video card driver, and Cable Card working under it, I'd be long since gone from windows
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but ati drivers suck on all platforms :P
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Dagnir... an OK job. Compare it to the windows drivers..
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no complaints here. using 7600gt and 9600gt :\
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joshu Tech: True. My macbook's geforce works great in linux, but video plug-ins for firefox suck.
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i use vlc plugins on win and linux
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: don't even use them that much. most sites use flash video
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joshu Tech: When I saw the windows thing I was busy trying to get http://www.revision3.com/scamschool/pilot to play with the gnash plugin.
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Oh, One other thing, it needs a better email client that works with newer exchange servers
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joshu Tech: So far all I get is flickering menus and a loading bar.
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armand Dorleac Tech: can you sub in mush?
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: yes, but you lose the colors
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: you can use the Styles table returned by triggers to retain all colours
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armand Dorleac Tech: fine with me, mind giving a quick howto?
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: only in Lua script but
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: trigger on *subwordphrase*
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Galirawin Tech: there is an example of substitution at: http://mushclient.com/forum/?id=8847
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Galirawin Tech: that takes a "consider all" line and adds estimated level differences
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armand Dorleac Tech: i just want to sub out that hideous druid flag
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Galirawin Tech: make a trigger, omit from output, and send whatever you want to replace the line with
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armand Dorleac Tech: haha, sweet, thanks
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedos Tech: Zmud gurus!  Why doesn't  {chan ch=%1}%2  work as a trigger, to then output %2 into a separate window?
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: because you didn't use the #capture/#window command
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedos Tech: well I did use the #window as the response, but didn't use #capture, I will look into that
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Wouldn't it be {chan ch=(*)} (*) ?
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: and because  is not surrounded by parentheses (not to mention you should not be using ... in trigger patterns)
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedos Tech: I used %1 and %2 to deliniate between two different variables
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: "^\{chan ch=(~[^~}~]+)\}" is the capture line from my script
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't you need to use ~{ and ~}?
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedos Tech: I did use , it just didn't show up on tech
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedos Tech: ~
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why not use fiendish's channel capture script?
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedos Tech: it's not showing up for some reason
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedos Tech: I will, is it somewhere online?
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not showing up because zmud is parsing it
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger fiendish
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedos Tech: cool, I'll def check it out, many thanks
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you want to make sure that stuff gets sent without zmud interfering, click the computer icon at the bottom to turn off parsing
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedos Tech: ahh ok
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: similarly, the little gun turns triggers on/off
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedos Tech: Zmud guru's with Fiendish's awesome bigmap, do you know what causes each line that you move on to turn black?  The whole map begins correctly, but as I move through it, a horizontal black line deletes, and never reappears until I revisit that continent.  Thus, if I start on the south end of the continent, and run all north, the whole big map slowly turns black.
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: the window isn't big enough. make it bigger, move to another cont, then come back
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedos Tech: that doesn't seem to help
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedos Tech: the window is much much larger than the map, and still it does it
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: thats all I have, I ran into a similar prob when I had it on
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: invalid color reference, maybe?  I don't use it or know how it's written, though, but using an invalid color makes you use a null color.
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedos Tech: could be, I will try to dig into the code a little
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedos Tech: though I'm no real expert
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ikaruga Tech: Someone yesterday I think it was recommended the mccpimp program to me and I liked it and it worked fine yesterday but today I ran the .exe and it opened up 200 of them.  Anyone have any ideas?
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xenakis Tech: I've been searching for a while, but I cant find any aardwolf tintin scripts. Anyone know of any sites?
T1/r7/2009-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: not likely to find many, better to ask someone who uses it...
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaela Tech: Ok so I just found this channel and figured it'd be more appropriate to ask here.  I downloaded and installed the Aardwolf MUSH client, stopped using it after a bit and went back to Gmud because I prefer it.  But now I have all this wierd text beneath my game prompt and some stuff next to channels and stuff, I guess code for the plugins, somehow.. Any clues on how to remove it?
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: type "statmon"
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sieral Tech: statmon
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: Does anybody know how to do time math?
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Searon Tech: type "tags off"
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: in CMUD?
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaela Tech: Ah, thanks bunchs. <3
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: you mean with the systime call and stuff on unix?
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaela Tech: What about the {chan ch=tech} prompts I have next to channels?
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: thats tags off
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaela Tech: Alrighty.  Thanks. <3
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i did a little bit of that while teaching myself unix programming :p
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: after the chapter on unix standards though
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: that sounds like a python script, lol
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: built with the programmer in mind gaming
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: how am i written?  why, like this 
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i think this laptop was repaired by chimps
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: Anyone here use tintin++?
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: no, i use a dirty great syringe instead
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: just ask the question, don't ask to ask
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: Ah, should have known :)  Is there a way to use the mouse wheel to scroll the scrollback buffer instead of command history when using a split screen?
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what kind of terminal do you use? i'm pretty sure you can only scroll with pgup/pgdown
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: xterm, The thing is that without a split screen I am able to scroll the buffer with the wheel, but when I have a split screen it just scrolls the commands
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: this lag is not conducive to mudding
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: This mud is not conducive to lagging
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: typical of bloody american internet companies wrecking my day off
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: today's culprits are some half-arsed redneck outfit called internap in Atlanta
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: georgia?
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: that's where Atlanta is, apparently
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: if you're in england and the server where's that at?
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: lol yeah apparantly
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: dallas
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: yeah i guess they're not on the coast
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you can be pretty much assured that if i get connection problems it's because of the damned yanks not able to keep their kit working for more than a day at a time
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Theres stupid people and bad isps everywhere, fark
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: that's true, but in 10 years of mudding, bad connection problems have never been caused -this- side of the pond
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i had such dreadful problems with some yank routers when lasher moved the server to dallas that i ended up changing ISP's just trying to get a different route
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: That's because Europe traditionally has no MUDs
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: that's pretty much irrelevant, drtoki
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Location of the MUD has no bearing on the lag one receives.
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Well, in an indirect way it does. :\
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: location of the severs relative to client does
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Well, I dunno about all that charn.. further you are, more hops, more chance for lag
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus grins evilly.
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: russia has muds i believe
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Only when it rains
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: in russia muds have you
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: -russia +soviet russia, FIXT
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: well, if the american network companies spent more effort making their kit work rather than sitting with a flag up their arse trying to tell the world how great america is, then maybe we'd all have less lag problems
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: that russian attempt at a joke is lame
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: s/russia/soviet russia/  fix'd x 2
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: farkyss umm, what's your problem?
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No, cause that'd make it soviet soviet russia, you broke it again
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Peter the Great ruined Russia
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: lag, aps
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: that guys who killed over 100 million people probably made a dent too
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Farkyss just like to bitch about americans. its cool.
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: doesn't mean it's america's fault
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it is, aps
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: the faulty hops are in atlanta
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: it could be anything in between the server and your comp
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: EVERYTHING is America's fault.
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: how did you figure that out?
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: traceroute
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: neotrace
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i have to agree with you. the black holes are usually in the statse
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: states*
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: well, you chose to play a mud with a server in the US, so in the end kind of your fault
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Learn From Einstein Tech: 0h 39
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: if you go thorugh ebay you can find military surplus stuff for sale lol
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: or whatever that discontinued electronics is
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: and also who knows how long this problem has been going on in atlanta, problems do take time to fix
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: they got stuff for decrypting traffic in realtime
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: something like that breaks down, there's probably some slack in the line
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: where's their fallback?
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: where's the re-routing?
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: there's always a fallback? and what exactly is the problem in atlanta and how many ppl are experiencing the problem?
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: there's so many questions you could ask
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: how should i know?
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: so saying that there is a problem in atlanta and it should be fixed just like that isn't necissarily the answer, what if you come back tomorrow and everything is ok?
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: that's no help to me, since i'll be at work tomorrow
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Its always about you, isn't it Fark..
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: well, i just wouldn't complain lag happens all over the world, sure it sucks but to expect instant fixes isn't reasonable
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: To not expect fixes at all isn't reasonably
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it's reasonable in this day and age to expect a connection reliable enough to play a text based mud that worked fine on a 33.6k dialup connetion
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: reasonable.
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: lol, no doubt
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: and dialup connections never had their problems?
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: stuff like solar flares aside, it should be relatively stable
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: without breaks there's less of a need for maintenance, and with more convenience, there's less need of intelligence
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: doesn't change the fact that it's -always- over the pond where the problems are
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: well, then play something on your side of the pond if that is how you feel
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Almost makes me wish the router was down completely, then we wouldn't have to listen to Fark complain
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: that kind of reaction is why america is hated around the globe ;-)
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: w
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i just feel sorry for the aussies
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: Australia > England
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: its true
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so and so
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: they're better at cricket, we're better at football
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: america is hated because every other country complains about us?
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Besides, I can see problems cropping up more in the US.... more servers here then any other country, and user counts are close
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: great, now go fix them
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: so when somebody defends the US you are like that's why you hate us?
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Not presently my job.
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: pretending it's someone else's fault is not defending the US
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: the only one attempting to assaign fault is you, Fark
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Horrible typos aside.
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: yep, and that assignation is justified by the proof
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: assigning fault and being at fault are two different things
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: However fark, you seem to like to blame "america" and "yanks" not some specific server provider, who actually maintains the hardware causing you your issues.
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: this is a pretty straight forward case where the assignation and the truth being equal
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: would you prefer me to blame the French for american routers being wretched?
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: l2reading comprehension
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: 21 hops to aardwolf, and 5 of them are non-responsive
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: blocking icmp ping
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: kind of superficial if your connections going through them :p
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: there's a unix udp traceroute too
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: this is from here, send it to there when you're done wit it
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: 3 of the 5 have started responding again
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: though waiting 2 ticks for a command to go through isn't helpful
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: personally wish lasher had left the server back where it was
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: do you ever stop? you're not even in a channel for complaining
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: complaining is the default action taken upon encountering lag
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: followed shortly by blowing peoples brains out with a shotgun
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: take this time to take a break from aard...
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: ...and blow some brains out
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: sure, which of you two wants to be first?
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: coin toss. It's only fair.
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: anyone using any omnidazzle alternatives for linux?
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunloon Tech: can i check my ping ?
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: start->run->command.com->ping -n 3 aardmud.org
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunloon Tech: thanks Kheftiu
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baroqen Tech: is it possible to turn off room description?
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rithlin Tech: brief
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: help brief
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baroqen Tech: how do i do that
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baroqen Tech: ah thanks :)
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: anyone here use dd-wrt firmware for  the SNMP feature ?
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: what does RTM stand for with respect to Windows ISO's?
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: release to manufacturing
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: ta
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyynx Tech: hey does anyone know...every like 10 minutes or so a screen pops up and says "Access to Mushclient....etc was denied" And then World File Saved shows up on the mud screen highlighted in blue.
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: maybe you should make a copy of your settings and reinstall
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyynx Tech: hmm
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: Mush has done similar dodgy things to me....that particular one I haven't found the cause (if it's what I think it is)
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Are you on vista lyynx?
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: its the UAC
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: You can either disable the auto-save plugin, or run MUSH as an admin
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: If you're on vista at least
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: Mush seems to save things in the wrong place sometimes
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: could be trying to save to read only place *shrug*
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Gregor: Yes, its the UAC being a pain in the ass as usual, just turn it off
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Anyone know a good way to keep a laptop keyboard key from repeatedly falling off shot of super glue?
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: short*
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Put it on the right way
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: It is
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: It just won't stay on
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: how do you save a zone as a map?
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: on zmud
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: sorta tech related...people catching laptops with their buttcheeks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiNaadVOQEM
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: hahahaaa
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: heh, I missed this tidbit yesterday...MS ordered to stop selling MS Word
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: why?
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2009/08/court-gives-microsoft-60-days-to-stop-shipping-word.ars
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: patent horsecrap
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: heh
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: patently daft ruling
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i still prefer office
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: they'll not stop selling it, and nor will there be a legal reason to do so
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: AHAHAHA... Microsoft is screwed. "Finding that Microsoft had violated a patent on Custom XML usage owned by i4i of Toronto, a Texas judge ordered Microsoft to stop selling any Word products within 60 days that use XML coding in any waywhich is pretty much all of them at the moment. Microsoft plans to appeal the injunction and $290 million in damages, and likely won't lose the ability to sell its flagship product. Still, it's not exactly great timing for a day when Microsoft planned to announce Office availability on Nokia phones. Update: The All About Microsoft blog explains in more detail the Custom XML issue at the heart of the court decision."
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A single Wissie rests in a corner and mutters 'spam' quietly to herself.
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: nice, and to think they want it to be the standard format *rolls eyes
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods.
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: they've got the money. pay the fine, buy the company, and stop wasting our time
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: freakin M$
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Probably what will happen, too.
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: . o O (  ) Habasi is agreeing with that Charitable Charneus person again...
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: well if im i4i, i wanna get loads and tons of money from M$ *grins
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: yeah someone's buying a new fur coat
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: they should have gone open document format instead.
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i still hate open office btw
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: use a text editor *inno
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: wordpad or notepad++ ftw
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i use word, i've known word for around 15 years, i know all the ins and outs...just like excel i can do just about anything with it
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: nowai, vim is the only true editor
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I prefere ultraedit.
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: vimmit good
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i have different tastes when i'm on a linux-based os
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: lol. i disagree dk vi or emacs
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: nvi, elvis, vim
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: emacs i hate, terrible terrible
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: emacs has too much nontexteditor functinos
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: the only good thing about it is you can use it thru a text connection
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i like my editors to edit
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: If you are planning on doing any c++ compilations use dev by bloodshed inc.
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: emacs could stand to be its own OS if it wanted to
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: we have huge arguments about emacs and other editors at school lol it's funny
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: lol ode
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: engineers all stuck in their own world :D
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: do you think the MS patent prob was an accident or what?
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: probably some accident
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i do a lot of different things so i like if i can to use just one program
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: It wasn't an accident.
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: the fact that it got out was probably an accident...
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: so a program like kate if it's available is perfect for me
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: you wouldn't think theft would be policy at MS
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: what gave you that impression?
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: buying out other companies so you have no competition is like theft
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Oh please. All big companies participate in theft in some way. Hell, even the RIAA was caught pirating mp3s.
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: imagine all the money microsoft can pay to the services the little guy uses to stifle him
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i mean, somebody has to present their xml format before they agree, that somebody is probably plagiarized without some committee knowing it.
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: oh god..RIAA is absurd
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Nitpick: Downloading MP3s isn't theft.
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: not all the time obyron
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: yes all the time
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: Metallica says it is
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: Metallica is bloat
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Downloading MP3s cannot be theft, because you're not stealing anything.
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: lol. some artist really distribute their works in torrentsites
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: others with CC licenses
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: yeah, probably most of a bands currency comes from concerts
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: tshirt sales and stuff for 10k people adds up :p
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus snickers with Obyron about their shared secret.
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: then there's people who buy albums to support their favourite bands
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: i bet live music is a bigger deal to money hungry artist since mp3s
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: has anyone written a good script that queries the mobdeaths db on iwuvaard?
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: In using string.match, what would I use if I wanted to check for a new line? \n? (Lua, of course)
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: how do you make the bigmap go away for good in the mush client?
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Disable the plugin.
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: thanks!
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i heard a rumor that certain vista users (premium and ultimate) will get a free upgrade to windows 7 anyone know if this is true or if i was getting my leg yanked
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i wouldn't be money on it, unless they're makin up for lost words
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: It's for computers bought within a certain time period, I believe.
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: Vista users who received their license OEM (ie. from Dell) within a certain time frame will receive an upgrade to the appropriate Windows 7 License
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Yeah, exactly what I thought.
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: that makes sense, another contract with hardware manufacturers to exclusively do as microsoft says
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: so its true but its really restricted ... o well thanks
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: That's ok. Microsoft was ordered to stop selling Word now. :D
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: wait, what?
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods at Argetlam.
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: they have 60 days to yank it
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dingaling Tech: well, anything that uses xml technology or something like that
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Sued by i4i for $290 million dollars, and Microsoft was told they have to stop selling Word because of the coded base.
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: you serious?
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: I am curious to see what they do
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: wow
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: i love word
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: If they take the XML format out, then they'll be ok.
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: only 290 million? that's hardly a sheet of toilet paper in the gold house
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods at Kheftiu.
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dingaling Tech: texas judge
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i'm starting to like texas
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i wish i had 290 million -.-
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: me too hadar...
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: if i had 290 million, i'd fund development of a couple villages in a poor country
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: and hire some police to keep the peace :p
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Via Lifehacker: "Finding that Microsoft had violated a patent on Custom XML usage owned by i4i of Toronto, a Texas judge ordered Microsoft to stop selling any Word products within 60 days that use XML coding in any waywhich is pretty much all of them at the moment."
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: i'd start by paying off my damn school lones
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: and yeah,k i got some debts to pay, rofl
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i wanted to feed starving kids since i was watch bonkers after school in like '95
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mathoran Tech: How can you sue someone for using XML? I'm obviously missing something in this story.
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: "Microsoft plans to appeal the injunction and $290 million in damages, and likely won't lose the ability to sell its flagship product."
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: all them depressing shows of the skeleton people
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: wtf, eat, drink
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: It's the custom XML usage.
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: watertheflowers?
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Like it was pointed out earlier, though... Microsoft will probably pay the $290 million, then buy the company.
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: rofl
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: probably
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mathoran Tech: as much as I may dislike Microsoft, this sounds like a stupid lawsuit
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: no it doesn't
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mathoran Tech: I'm sorry, I gave an opinion, what's that again?
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: You want someone else making money of something you did and you get squat?
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: I didnt read the details but they pretty much have the patent earlier then MS
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Here's a direct statement: "Todays permanent injunction prohibits Microsoft from selling or importing to the United States any Microsoft Word products that have the capability of opening .XML, .DOCX or DOCM files (XML files) containing custom XML."
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: That another company made and MS poached off of
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Am i incorrect in that assumption?
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mathoran Tech: I wonder how much some of you know
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: And Custom XML: Custom XML markup is about embedding custom XML defined outside of Open XML to support solution which aim to structure a document using business semantics, not only using formatting.
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: Mathoran: What do you mean by that?
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: I love tech debates, good way to pass the time when I'm too lazy to level.
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mathoran Tech: All I'm saying is that some companies live on sueing bigger companies on frivolous things. I'm not saying this is one of those cases. I'm just not going to assume that Microsoft is in the wrong soley becaue it's Microsoft
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: buy stock in this company sueing MS and if ms buys them you will be rich?
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mathoran Tech: Which is what I think some of you are doing
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sacathean Tech: good idea
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: No, I like MS, but the fact stands that they sold many copies of a program based off another's work with no credit or reinbursement payed to the company that designed and built it.
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Mathoran: I'm not assuming Microsoft is in the wrong because it's Microsoft. I have to assume it's in the wrong because of the evidence brought before a judge that clearly made him decide it was definitely an infringement on another company's patent for Custom XMl.
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sacathean Tech: make a class action lawsuit over ur emotional distress from having used stolen property
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sacathean Tech: ive been scarred for like i cant even look at a notepad in real life now
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: watch sacathean someone will do that
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i like to see lawsuits from a smaller corp or persons towards a larger corp in the software industry rather than the other way round
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sacathean Tech: im in
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: but why did they wait so long to sue them?
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: Mathoran - This is a legit company, they are not just a company that snags patents and wait to fuck people with them
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: no idea, it's a bit strange
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sacathean Tech: prob getting all the facts  and numbers together
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Gathering info, Hadar. Wanted to build their case against them?
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: it didn't sound anything like that fed
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: maybe
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mathoran Tech: Fed, and that's fine, and I hope they continue to fight it if they are in the right.
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: maybe they waited for sales to come in knowing that if they won
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: they didn't want to bury office?
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sacathean Tech: to see how much money its really about $$$$
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mathoran Tech: But I'm sure we can all recall judges who have made stupid rulings in the past on various things, so I'm just not going to rush out to a judgement
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Ode: Still, it's not exactly great timing for a day when Microsoft planned to announce Office availability on Nokia phones.
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: cough, copyright law, anywho...my guess is they waited and consulted with their lawyers...and went for the money after ms made the money on it
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: I agree, I also have no 'judgement' to pass on the issue. I am very curious to see how this plays out though. If it gets overturned or ignored or if MS buys the company
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: yeah that i dunno, it's a better day than the day office goes on store shelves
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: O.J. simpson for one
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: As a bad judgement
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mathoran Tech: Wasn't that more the jury? =)
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: it's not criminal, ther's no jury afaik
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: im trying to see if that company has stocks or they are are privately owned
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mathoran Tech: I'm talking about O.J, Ode
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Hadar: i4i out of Toronto. :P
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: oh, that jury was tainted by the media and highly paid lawyers, most jurers aren't even aware of jury nullification
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: lawyers have done a terrific job of removing what was supposed to be the most powerful part of the us government, jurors,  also put in to be the most objective
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: jurors in most cases are not capable of being objective
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: yeah, it just annoys me a defendant can't inform the jury they have the right to say that they broke the law but that that law is either unconstitutional or does not apply because of extenuating circumstances
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: i dunno...but this is straying from Tech talk
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: but back to what's at hand
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sacathean Tech: guilty untill proven innocent
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sacathean Tech: of not talking tech stufff
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: well we started talking law, it's ok :D
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: just cause the channel is named blah if everyone here decides to talk about something else it's not like there's a chat called "law" lol
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i'm still confused as to why they'd have this all done the day with the nokia thing, that still floors me a bit
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sacathean Tech: nokia is there ex wife
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sacathean Tech: because they are a foreign company?
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sacathean Tech: yeah it was racially inspired
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sacathean Tech: ok ill shut up
T1/r7/2009-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sacathean Tech: =(
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: how do you get rid of the World file saved message again?
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: can someone help me figure out how to do time math on cmud?
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: can't seem to find much help in cmud help files, or in the forums at zuggsoft.com
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baroqen Tech: does anyone knows if there's any way to redirect a page other than using header() in php?
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduka Tech: 4 bytes = 1 word?
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: on 32 bit processors x86
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: 8 bytes is a word on 64 bit x86 processors
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: word = size of a register
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stigon Tech: 128 bytes
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduka Tech: makes sense now
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nitrana Tech: To anyone that has used/uses a gain reporter script. Whats your favorite one?
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: gain reporter?
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nitrana Tech: Yea, for quests/lvlup/powerup
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: What would it report? Something similar to qp/hr, exp/hr, etc?
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nitrana Tech: yea, all that + how many extra gains you get from each quest/pup etc
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: Sorry.. what is an extra gain? or an example of an extra gain
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nitrana Tech: lucky hits etc
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crestlin Tech: Would the MUD client work on a smartphone? Such as a HP ipaq or an HTC dream or a HTC hero?
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AshanDari Tech: Why does {chan ch=ftalk} come up when it didnt before?  now anytime a communication channel is displayed it says chan ch=(whatever channel it is)
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: you used mush then switched to another client
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad4ss Gregor Tech: you can type 'tags off' to get rid of it
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: you've turned channel tags on (or ran a script that  did, and no longer run it). tags channel off should take care of it
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AshanDari Tech: ok thanxs
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AshanDari Tech: that did it   Thanxs very much
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Learn From Einstein Tech: did u guys know abt invmon
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daiku Grayghost Tech: anybody know about mush client here?
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: weee time to mess up my g1 by rooting it!
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: question. I have a computer here that I use for storage and running apache for my website. I recently bought a svideo cable for it and have been watching movies on my tv from it with no issues. I went to watch a movie yesterday and now I have a buzzing noise comming from the computher through the tv and the video keeps changing from black and white to color randomly. what could be causing this?
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crestlin Tech: check the cable and the ports, you'll be amazed at what a common problem that is.
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: I've been having the same problem with my component video cables coming out of my dvd player to my tv. the buzzing sound is brand new
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i unplugged and replugged everything in. nothing has changed since hte last time i used it. I rebooted the comp, no change, cleaned the chips and everything on the inside, no change.
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Profoundly Odd Tech: alternately it could be aliens trying to contact you through the audio track of the movie.
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: it sounds almost like a static interference type noise when i turn it on... 
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: and it's only from one cable, the red one for me
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: both here
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crestlin Tech: check the pins, check the ports. Also, try tuning it into a channel on your tv, not simple going to AV.
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: pins are straight, like i said nothing had changed, nothing had moved and it just started randomly. regular tv and everything else works just fine, only when it uses the input form the computer do i get the noise
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crestlin Tech: sorry to change the topic, but could the mud client be run on a smartphone?
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Profoundly Odd Tech: mushclient no, javaclient from the website... probably
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crestlin Tech: you said thats from your secondary pc? Try putting it on your primary. Also, check the card. One of my pc's graphics cards starting giving me that problem a while back
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: primary doesn't have svideo connection
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crestlin Tech: thanks odd. Im suprised, on my Ipaq i can run most things.
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Profoundly Odd Tech: ipaq uses windows CE... does your smartphone?
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crestlin Tech: One of my phones are running Android and my blackberry is running windows. not really sure what version
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crestlin Tech: is running'
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: could it be a build up of static on the outisde of the case?
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Profoundly Odd Tech: mush will run on the windows os one... out of luck on android except the java client 
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crestlin Tech: doubt it. I think it could be the age of the pc because now that i think of it my graphics card started doing that at first. But i honestly dont know
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crestlin Tech: damm... Thanks again Odd
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lypiaan Tech: hey can i download the aarmud addons and use them on another mud client (linux)?
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: aardmud addons? do you mean mushclient plugins?
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: there's mushclient on linux
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: but honestly, using wine is much faster
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no there's not
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: is there not?
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the latest version is windows only
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lypiaan Tech: are you sure... i have a pretty bad computer
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you can run it on wine tho
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crestlin Tech: Does anyone know anything about ParanoidLinux? Last i heard it was only in alpha alpha
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i know i wouldn't use it cause it sounds rediculous
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: u can install wine from synaptic or aptget
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Profoundly Odd Tech: where there are dozens of free linux varients that are mature available why think about one that is in alpha alpha?
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: if you're that paranoid you can download a kernel, read through it, download some apps, read through them, get an electron scanning microscope and check out your motherboard, hard drive and chips
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crestlin Tech: Honestly, i want ParanoidLinux. Its truely an awesome thing
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: oh yea, the linux mush i was talking a bout was called potato
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: originated from mush
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Profoundly Odd Tech: nothing is awesome in pre alpha :)
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lypiaan Tech: okay but seriously, do the aarmud plugins do a lot of difference?
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: in zmud if im trying to throw out a long list of items is there a way i can have it #echo all of them, if i put #echo there it just gives me huh?
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: well thats wierd... i just turned it on and everything is fixed again
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Is populating a drop-down box from an SQL database an acceptable practice? Or just a waste of resources
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lypiaan Tech: i need help. I want to download the plugins for my mud client, where can I get em?
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: and what client would that be
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: and what plugins would that be
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lypiaan Tech: ah nvm ill just use the aarmud client
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: you'll still want some plugins with that as the aardmush thingy isnt perfect
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: finger fiendish and get the chat plugin from his webby
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daiku Grayghost Tech: anybody here use mush?
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: plenty of people do, GG
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: wile there, you may as well get his bigmap plugin as well
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: while*
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daiku Grayghost Tech: they know how to turn parsing on?if so send me a tell please
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game -> configure -> aliases, uncheck enable
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err to turn on, check enable
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: how do i create multiple command aliases in mush client?
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: meisterP, type them as multiple lines
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: just go to game->configure->alias->then create new
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: and you enter one command per line
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: literally, in the giant box, type the first line, hit enter, type the second line
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: i was using the 
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: semi colon
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: '
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: how do i type semi colon lol
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: a semi colon? YOU SICK DEGENERATE BASTARD
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: ;
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: -.-
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Kids these days... next thing you know they're going to be using tildes! I mean, TILDES FOR HEAVENS SAKE!
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: apparently the semicolon doesn't work in alias
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piston Tech: ~
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: try %; maybe
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: young ladies running around with their tildes hanging out..... WELL I NEVER
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: %
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i don't know if i'm pulling that from this or something else
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: ~
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piston Tech: i've always like the upside down exclamation mark
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: hmm, can't pull it off
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: ~!$$^&**()
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Tildes... are satans game..
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: semicolon does work in an alias, just set to execute instead of world
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: everything works but the at sign and semicolon, i used to know how to type it
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: ok, thanks
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use @@ for @
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: ;
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: LOL
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: @;
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's a game-side thing, not a client-side thing
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: i see
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: use ;QUIT; for semi-colon
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: -.-
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: it uh, quits the parsing, so the second semicolon will display..
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: thanks, brilliant
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: go to configure->input->commands, check command stacking and put the semicolon in the box
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lypiaan Tech: what... i used the client from aarmud and now i switched back to mine, now on text i keep seeing these <MAPEND> codes and on my text thing where it says my movement points and stuff it also has {stats}14/12 19/16 and etc, and then You Are Standing.,9999/208/208 and all my hp and movement stats again then 0,0,3,348,4,5. how do i take this out?
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: type statmon
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: That's the statmonitor, read the helpfile :)
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: and tags off
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: And tags off
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Stick it Inicus goes 'pfft' at Daloran and covers him with globs of spittle!
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: HAH
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just tags off...don't bother typing statmon :-)
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lypiaan Tech: man you guys know your stuff.
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tags off covers everything at once
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Don't type it, but read it up :P
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lypiaan Tech: lol thx
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: how do you get rid of the World file saved msg again? (on mush)
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: You on Vista?
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: no
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: does that matter?
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Oh wait, you just want it to not save?
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: i just want to not see the msg
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: I thought you meant the "World cannot be saved" message
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: is there a way to make chats in MUSH only appear in the chat window, not the main?
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: type chats echo off
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: perfect, thanks much!
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: i know you can turn it off but i forget how to do it :(
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: anyone knows something about solidworks here?
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Anyone who uses Digsby.. "The popular Digsby instant messenger client not only bundles half a dozen "optional" crapware applications, it's also using your computer to crawl the web, do stock market research, and more. It's time to uninstall."
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Charn, theres actually a download with all the "optional" stuff stripped out
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: however, its still a crappy im client
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: It's still crawling the web. ;)
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I'm just quoting Lifehacker. :P
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: its funny cause lifehacker reccomended it at one point =p
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: It wasn't recommended, really. They just did the hive five for contenders.
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Sorry, they didn't, one of their editors did on their own blog
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Did they? I must have missed it, then.
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: think it was on Howto geek... hes associated with lifehacker, no?
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: "That's right. Buried in the Terms of Service that almost nobody ever bothers reading, there's this exploiting-the-fine-print gem explaining that they will use your CPU to run distributed computing problems that make them money." ;)
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Oh? So long as its in the ToS, I'm ok with that
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: they should make a policy that any non-standard agreements are stated first in terms of service
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: screw that 20 page bs
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Basically says 'You agree to permit the Software to use the processing power of your computer when it is idle to run downloaded algorithms and code within a process.
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: if i had to read all the fine print for every site and every program i used, i'd never have time to use them
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: eh, then who is to define "non-standard"
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: non-standard would be like you agree that we should be able to look through your webcam at you and give this ability to others too
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: from macromedia
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: that's kind of an invasion of privacy buried in 30 pages of technical bullshit
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: is it an invasion of privacy? Distributive computing is not..
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: oh and we forgot to mention, we will be occasinally connecting to your computer through this website to spy on your stuff
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: that's utter bs, gnu public liscence doesn't change
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: so you read it once you see what each program's terms are
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: diff word.policy excel.policy, result: 56969696 lines found
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: scalp
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: But the GNU policy is certainly more openended
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Also, lol at microsoft getting caught up on word
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: im curious how googledocs stores formatting, if theyd be subject to the same problem
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skull Tech: any Mushclient users on this channel ?
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: I use it but I'm a complete idiot.
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: help if I can
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goldheart Tech: I might can help
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skull Tech: Ok I have the spellup wish not that speeds up cast spells , and is there a way to spellup players like *spellup (playername) without typing each spell one at a time ?
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skull Tech: bleh 
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skull Tech: spellup2 , the fast spellup.
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Oh man, there's a spellup plugin that I've never been able to get to work.
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: make an alias
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: sorry don't use that plugin
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: that plugin sucks
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: i made a better one but it went with the rest of my stuff when i switched to tintin
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Apparently
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: for mush, Bast has a really nice spellup plugin
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Bast?
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: It doesn't have the nice spellup all function though
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xenakis Tech: darkknowing, could you share any tintin stuff you've written, if any? i'm using tintin too
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: and a fixed Chat plugin apparently
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skull Tech: does he have a link up Fedraz ?
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: one sec
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: I have some nice tintin stuff if you want
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: I'm going to open up a can of worms here... Intel Chips or AMD Chips for a new computer.. which should i look at
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: I use a lot of his plugins, here is a link http://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/Aardwolf_Spellups
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DarkSlayer Zeerus Tech: gaming amd.... video/audio editing intel
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skull Tech: dank ye Fedraz
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i don't do much in the way of editing.. just playback of video/audio
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crestlin Tech: Depends on what you want. I use amd for my gaming pc's, better overclocking in my eyes. Intel's a workhorse though, but speed wise? naw... plus it overheats easily
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: its been awhile since I recommended AMD
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neleus Tech: are you ridiculous?
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: so whats a good AMD Processor on the market now then?
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neleus Tech: intel has been top in speed for a long time
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neleus Tech: amd basically only has the budget angle
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crestlin Tech: I think they just realised a new one... bit heavy on the pocket though. Was R10k when i went shopping last.
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crestlin Tech: No way! i get MUCH better speeds out of my AMD's
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neleus Tech: don't feed?
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The All Darkknowing Tech: http://pastebin.com/d58a1bca  <---- this is my tintin script if you want, whoever it was that asked, fair warning. I am NOT a babysitter and it is up to you to read it and modify it to your means.
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: so AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ Windsor 3.0GHz is a good chip?
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crestlin Tech: Id say so yeah
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: do they even make 32 bit chips?
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crestlin Tech: in Cape Town i came across a place that made custom chips. Not sure of its address, quickly taking a squiz through my phonebook
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crestlin Tech: but then again... i know software, not hardware. I get good speeds because i built my gaming pc into a bar fridge and overclock it till it hits 8ghz :)
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}V4 or Bust Xyzzy Tech: what a waste of a perfectly good bar fridge.
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crestlin Tech: nu uh... Its a beauty. More of a hassle than its worth though, i had to put $ dehumidifiers in it
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crestlin Tech: 4, not $
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: whats faster for ram timing: 5-6-6-18, or u
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: whats faster for ram timing: 5-6-6-18, or 5-5-5-15.. my bad on the first post.. it reenabled my keypad
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neleus Tech: the second one for the ram
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: If I want more than one word to be moved from the mud output into a variable... What do I put in the trigger? (%1) and (*) doesn't work
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: %1 works if you set boundries
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Boundries?
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gah, triggers shouldn't have %1 in them ever :P
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's only because zugg screwed up his coding that it has ever worked
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: So... What should I put? :)
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (.*?) or more specific regexp
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: (.*?) wont work
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: yes regex is better, but simplicity is in lazy matching.  eg >> one two three four.    set the trigger to ^one %1 four. and %1 would contain the words "two three"
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: still * is preferable to %1
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: '* wont work either
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: without the ' offcourse
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: what's the reason @ gets cancelled
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: that some kind of control char?
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: depending on your client
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Colors?
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: telnet cancels @ too unless you type two
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: or aard does
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i mean
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: z/cmud uses @, so you need to use ~@ to get past zmud...but aard uses @, so you must use @@ for each @ displayed
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: ok, that some feature that's still used or a legacy thing from a previous code base?
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: easiest way to take z/cmud out of the equation is to click the little computer in the bottom corner to turn off parsing while you send
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: shouldn't be tough to take the cancellation out, messed me up while inventing passwords a few times
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is what some feature? @ is used in aard for color code
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: oh, right
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: that's it then
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: @ is used in zmud for variables
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can use @ in a password fine, it's just once you're loggin in that it has impact
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: yeah, BG, login fail
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: that's a B@NG
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: maybe change the parser for channel and say  commands only
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: and title and stuff
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: stuff that deals with login files shouldn't be hard to separate
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, that's a zmud thing not an aard thing, aard will happily accept @s in passwords
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: yeah but will it replace all the s with nothing/truncate?
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, at that point it's just using unix's hash, there are no colors
T1/r7/2009-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: hehe
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macuiltotec Tech: Hey, i'm about to purchase a laptop bundle and i was wondering if anybody could confirm that its a pretty good deal?  I'm just a college student so it doesn't have to be amazing i just want to make sure its worth the money?
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macuiltotec Tech: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9999114100050017&type=product&id=pcmprd114200050017
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: anyone here know something about solidworks?
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: yeah, it's a CAD program for Winblows
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: I need to create a scrow type of item with it...might you be able to help me?
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: the part with I have problems is the creating turns on the surface
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: Sorry, brah I don't use it. You might have more luck with google or an IRC channel. 
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: try google but getting almost nothing from there
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stigon Tech: what is the latest computer boot software e.g vista ultimate
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: I don't understand the question..
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: you mean like an OS or something?
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stigon Tech: like windows vista ultimate is that the latest
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: technically yes.. if you use windows
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: if you're talking exclusively Microsoft, they have the Windows 7 RC as well
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stigon Tech: cool thanx
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stigon Tech: is that vista black edition
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: No.
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stigon Tech: well then what
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: It's Windows 7 Release Candidate
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stigon Tech: then i should get it
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: yes, that's why i said technically.. RC's aren't really good for the end user
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: why would you get it?
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stigon Tech: wats the price of windows 7
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: it hasn't been released to retail yet
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: wouldn't know. It's good to assume it'll be close to what they already have out currently
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stigon Tech: cool well in SA vista ultimate is going for R2300
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: Are you trying to fence Microsoft operating systems?
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stigon Tech: fence what u mean
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stigon Tech: i dont understand that word
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Profoundly Odd Tech: I'LL BUY FIVE!!!
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: To sell via black market
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: You live up to your name, Odd
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stigon Tech: no im just saying the price that i got it for and im tottaly against the that copy market
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iceman Tech: 1 dollar = R8 or so btw
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stigon Tech: its soon to be R4 for 1 dollar
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: 1 South African rand = 0.12453 U.S. dollars
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iceman shrugs helplessly.
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: orly
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stigon Tech: SA is a great place full of potential
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iceman Tech: piracy is sill the order of the day however, due to the weak rand... which.. potentially will get worse
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: hm, what's that place with the billion dollar bills?
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stigon Tech: and now that Obama's president  SA and America will start to see a better future
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iceman Tech: lol thats zimbabwe
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Hrm... how does this have to do with technology?
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stigon Tech: Zimbabwe
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stigon Tech: technology is everywhere including in the politics
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Debate or gossip would probably be better channels for this conversation.
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Profoundly Odd Tech: xlnt suggestion
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: there's a debate channel? 
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: is it troll friendly?
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Drtoki )
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: So... I want zmud to report back to me in a gt what mob in what area I'm looking for... But I can't get my variables to fill upp with the entire name of the mob or area...
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: What am I doing wrong?
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stigon Tech: alot trust me i thinK
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Huh?
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Timoril Tech: could someone help me find a command or function in zmud? looking for one that is similar to echo but can actually be used as to activate a trigger
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iceman Tech: #say?
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: best thing is to use "echo", not "#echo" ;-)
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Timoril Tech: thanks Ice, will give that a shot, trying to work out a eqdatabase script on my own and echoing a finishing trigger would work better than that graphic stuff
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: #SAY, #SHOW, #ECHO all do that
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then it it quite literally activating the trigger as usual
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Timoril Tech: thanks all
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iceman Tech: qua bl
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: ack, this is driving me bonkers...
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: hmmm
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: in a nutshell, computer is hooked up to the tv for watching videos. all of a sudden i get buzzing though the audio and the image switches from color/black and white
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: not my field
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: it's gotta be the cables
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: tried everything i could think of to fix it, nothing. last night, turn it on randomly, it's fixed. (never shut the comp off), this morning, the buzzing comes back ever so slowly, and now the image is jacked again
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Faulty connection.
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Did you replace the cables?
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Timoril Tech: had something similar happen before, check video card for overheating?
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: not a faulty connection, all the cables are brand new
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: they could be defective
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: however, here's what i do notice
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Heh.
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: when i unplug the video cable, the buzzing through the sound gets 100 times worse
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: "Brand new" doesn't always mean "without fault." ;)
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: it's worked fine for weeks and nothing has moved or changed. 
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: and it doesn't explain the increase in buzzing when i unhook the svideo
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: I switched from A/V cables to Component cables on my DVD player and I've been getting buzzing through the blue cable only, it's very strange and disheartening
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Breast Feeder Tech: that sounds like it might be a floating ground
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: hi, dumb question 
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Stapleface: It can. Like my guitar amp - my cord is a bit screwed up right now. If I unplug it, the buzzing gets much louder. ;)
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: do new gpu's with their little cooling system on it, fan/heatsink thing...those should just work my new gpu doesn't have any eternal plugs
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: my old one didn't either afaik
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: and i've set it up, installed drivers and gave it a test spin and having seen the temps go up more than 5-6c
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: whats a floating ground and how do i fix it
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: baring me from popping open the case and sticking half my head in there i can't really see...it's too quiet to hear lol but if it weren't running we'd overheating by now (its been 30-60 minutes)
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Breast Feeder Tech: the question is a little unclear - you took the cooling set off an old gpu and put it on a new one?
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: oh no, brand new graphics card
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Breast Feeder Tech: oh yeah, if the fan isn't spinning they die in minutes even with no load
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: exactly, i've had one on my old one get caught and jam the fan screwing over teh whole thing so i attached a case fan to it...worked for years even better than the crappy heatsink that came with lol
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Breast Feeder Tech: as for the floating ground - you said if you use the same set of cables with a different device (computer versus dvd player) you get similar results?
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: no, works fine
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Breast Feeder Tech: what GPU are you using to output?
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Breast Feeder Tech: or video output card or whatever
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: me? 9500gt
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Breast Feeder Tech: sorry ode, was talking to stapleface hah
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: that is a good graphic card you need a good fan for that graphic card otherwise it will blow !
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i have a zalman's on the cpu, exactly asley..i can't hear it so either i'm deaf to 4000rpm or whatever but it's staying under the temp of my cpu and it's 30c cooler than my old card so i'm not gonna worry till it shuts everything down lol
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: just check every now and then and feel if youre case is warm if it is to warm shut the pc down for a bit
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i've got everest with temps up right now
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: my hard drives seem hotter than normal tho
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: hmm my hard drives never run in the 30c's but i'm getting slightly concerned now with my 3 at 44 48 48
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Breast Feeder Tech: its plausible the card is able to pull info from your harddrives faster than your old card and is asking more info out of them
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i'm accessing mush off one and firefox off the main, i know they usually run in 40s  ther's no additional cooling for them but they get a bit of the side case fan but i'm watching them go up  i'm getting paranoid lol
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i would assume this card is much better dissipating heat as the only one was just a case fan so maybe i need a fan for the hd's now
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Breast Feeder Tech: if you are worried about the HDDs you can put an 80mm case fan pointing over them, just like taped or something, should lower them by about 10c
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: sorry, whoever it was that asked i'm running a geforce fx 5200 i think in there
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: also, the computer is turned off right now and i'm getting the buzzing sound.. it's not powered on
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: at what kinda temp should i be worried? they aren't at like 80c ever or something, 50c seems to be the absolute max but they run around the 40s before anyway just being careful
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: 2 are also seagate, one's wd and iirc seagates go like 5c hotter anyway so that's in line  i stuck a tower fan in front of the pc 
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: ah that's the number 55c is like the lowest k i think it's all fine  if it starts going way way higher  thanks for help
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: any clue why it sould buzz when it's turned off? if i unplug the pwer supply, no buzz
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i grounded the case and it still buzzed...
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: that's werid lol
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: it's like it's on but off
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: sry, very broken statement, i did research on this before...manu's say 55c-60c even is fine...unless you design the exhaust over the hds and don't cool your case hehe
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: but extra cooling doesn't hurt, thx and later
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaju Tech: Question. Does anybody know how to turn off the map on the Aardwolf Mush Client?
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaju Tech: I want to the replace it with the in-game map instead of it popping up everytime.
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: oops, maybe your psu has some loose end or something that draws power when switched off
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Breast Feeder Tech: the wiring in the wall is not grounded properly stapleface probably
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i'd consider it a fire hazard :p, never had that problem though
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Breast Feeder Tech: is there any odd devices plugged into that same circuit? ACs, water pumps, jackhammers, drills?
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i don't like buzzin electronics when they're not on
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Breast Feeder Tech: it does happen from time to time, especially in older constructions
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Breast Feeder Tech: easiest way to test that is to try another outlet
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Breast Feeder Tech: it could also be a loose connection in the outlet itself - sometimes if the wiring isn't making a solid connection the electricity can arc (creating the buzz) and still be able to provide enough juice
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: would voltage on the psu have anything to do with that?
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i used to have a psu i could switch from 120 to 240
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Breast Feeder Tech: well, that just changes the internal circuitry of the power supply to either accept 120 or 240 IN, its a different group of resistors etc to step down the voltage inputs
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: if it's the wall wiring that's not proper why doesn't this affect all my other things plugged in, including this computer
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Breast Feeder Tech: its uk versus us standards
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Breast Feeder Tech: well it may well be, its just not as obvious - electronic have circuits in them to take noise out of lines, rectifier circuits and whatnot
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i unplugged power from the mb and i'm still getting the noise
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: feeder can't you use a wye for that instead?
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: if it were a grounding issue when i grounded it out otherwise it should have fixed it
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: like all psu's should have a v120/240 switch unless they only sell it in one region
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: this is a psu problem?
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Breast Feeder Tech: what card are you using to output staple?
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: anyone here know something a bit more about solid works?
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: Bah, you cant multi-comand in Telnet?
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: -multi-command
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: ??
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: anyone here know something a bit more about solid works?
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stigon Tech: can aardwolf be played on a hp touch phone
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yes, but it's not good for anything but notes and channels. and we don't want you doing that ;)
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: anyone here know something a bit more about solidworks?
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macuiltotec Tech: Hey...I was just wondering if somebody could confirm that this laptop (URL) is worth the price before i buy it?  I don't know much about laptops but it seems like a good deal.
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what laptop?
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macuiltotec Tech: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9999114100050017&type=product&id=pcmprd114200050017
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: can you tinyurl that? i can't copy/paste from this client
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: sounds like a nice deal :p laptop with a nintendo
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: provided the graphics solution is enough for your needs, its a pretty decent deal
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macuiltotec Tech: yeah i know...but it has a fast processor, 6gb ram...500gb memory...seems like it comes with everything?
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macuiltotec Tech: seems like the Wii is just a plus
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macuiltotec Tech: and i'm not a gamer buy any means just a college student
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: then go for it
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macuiltotec Tech: good deal than?
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: so long as you'll use the nintendo
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: if not you could probably find a laptop like that without a nintendo for a few bucks cheaper
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macuiltotec Tech: well i was thinkin about selling the nintendo...because i really dont want one
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: yeah, that'd probably work since it's new
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: in the UK ou wouldn't get the laptop by itself for that money
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macuiltotec Tech: yeah...i figure if i could even sell it for 200 dollars than the laptop is only 650
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: go to Dell's website though, and poke around
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macuiltotec Tech: yeah, i just thought i stumbled across a pretty good deal i was just confirming that i wasn't missing something
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hmm. the link doesn't work
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macuiltotec Tech: its on bestbuy.com...its the 850 laptop bundled with the Wii
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the wii sucks, don't bother
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: its a fair deal but shop around, especially since you dont care about the wii
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: buy a second hand gamecube and you'll get some awesome games and a controller that actually works
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macuiltotec Tech: actually i'd much rather have th ps3
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'd get a console with games on it. like ps2 or 360
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyynx Tech: ok anybody listening I have a question...
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyynx Tech: please not Ive already tried reinstalling the mushclient and it didnt help
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so you want us to guess what the problem is?
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: or do you like to be asked?
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyynx Tech: anyways...when I change the input setting to repeat the command so I dont have to retype commands...every few minutes the client trys to autosave the settings to aardwolf.mud but is denied access. When I try to quit the mud manually the same thing also happens.
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyynx Tech: sorry took a second to type out
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you're on vista/7, right?
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: its a permissions issue
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyynx Tech: I am on vista
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you need to run mush as admin or find a place you have permission to write the world file
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyynx Tech: ok, I see, its my moms computer so if I just get her to change my account to adminstrator as well all should be fixed?
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no, just run mush as admin
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyynx Tech: Im not sure how to do that
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, you don't have the rights i guess
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyynx Tech: nope
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: right click on the executable and you'll see the right option there
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyynx Tech: ok
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyynx Tech: brb
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyynx Tech: that worked...thanks alot
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyynx Tech: Ive been ignoring that screen for days now, or just retyping commands
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stigon Tech: have u people heard of deamon tools
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduka Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: You people?
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Stick it Inicus gets out a gun, and stands guard against those wretched people.
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: ok... a problem a lot of you have helped me with and i have more info. lol.
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: the noise still?
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: yeah
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: ugh
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: here's what i got so far. i took out the sound card, still got the color issues, changed video card, still there.
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: so, someone mentioned a floating ground, i plugged it into a brand new outlet i just installed, checked the wires with my tools, everything is working fine, still got buzzing and whatnot..
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: and i took the power supply completely out of the case and booted it just in case that was grounding the case and same issue
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: so how do i find out if there's a ground loop in my computer somewhere?
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: Are laptops known for having crappy headphone hookups? I just got this thing and I have my audio maxxed but I can barely hear the audio, got the dishwasher in the background but I should be able to blast these headphones I'm wearing. any feedback?
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: yeah most soundcards suck on computers
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: you can max out the system volume and see if that halps
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: your soundcard/driver/headphones suck
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: tried expanding full volume control?
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I don't have that problem on my laptop.
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: yes, everything is maxxed, gotta be the card
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Whatever application you are listening to has a volume control too
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: you could maybe find some sort of amplifier for it
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: is it a dvd?
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: update your drivers!
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i know pc speakers come with their own sometimes, probably wouldn't be impossible to rig up a mini-one
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: Its George Norry radio program I'm listneing to on Youtube. maybe its just low quality
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: youtube has extremely inconsistent volume across videos
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Some laptops have a volume control on them, near the jack.
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: Does changing the bits/Hz of the quality have anything to do with the loudness maybe?
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: not so much
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: That affects your headphones. If your headphones/speakers cannot handle the frequency then the sound will be worse
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: It's not always the sound card's fault. Sometimes you just have crappy speakers/headphones. Don't rule out the possibility
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i had crappy headphones, but they're still loud
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: maybe, I had some faith in these headphones there the big dorky muffin type from sony, about 8 years old though lol
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: it just gets all scratchy and has no bass
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: No bass, no go.
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: To any/all tintin users, I have made a couple parts of my script available on my site (http://aardwolf.chicomecoatl.angelfire.com/blog/), edit and use to your desires
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: lrn2use code tags
T1/r7/2009-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: anyone know how to reopen the map and score windo in the official aardowlf client?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: close and reload, if the plugin is installed it will pop back u[
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: up*
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: ctrl shift p, then check if you have the map and stats mon plugin, I think
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Dont do cntrl shift p if you on vista, it will bring up your battery check wizard
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: heh
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: What's the popular free antivirus for Windows these days?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Popular, or good?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Hmm. Is there a good one too?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: avira among others
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I'll go with good :)
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Good? Clearly you need windows antivirus 2009
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: try http://www.technobuzz.net/12-free-windows-antivirus-2009/ you may opt to look for others too
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jesica Tech: can so,eone help me to set a trigger but from the start !.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jesica Tech: someone 
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: trigger for what?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jesica Tech: to like when i want to cast a spell or use a skill that i do it like 5 times !/
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i think you need an alias
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jesica Tech: what is an alias ?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: make a loop and set that in an alias
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jesica Tech: how do i do that ?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: What client are you using?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jesica Tech: mush
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: I don't know anything about mush. Look at their help files.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ke8k2Gi2XZ4
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jesica Tech: which client areyou people using and which one is the best ?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ZMud, reporting in
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: I'm on tintin++  
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: MUSHclient is what I use. It's free.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: currently zMUD.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jesica Tech: which one is the best
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: matter of preference, as well as os
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: usually ALL mud clients are free. 
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I don't think you can get a clear answer on a "best" client.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: name one that isn't
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: zmud, cmud
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: pueblo
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Drtoki: zmud, cmud :)
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: zmud isn't free?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Isn't Pueblo open source?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: the best client is where you are at ease in using them
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: There is a free version, but I think it's different or old or something..
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: zmud is not, nor has it ever beeen free, pueblo, it didnt used to be.. did it change?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod, free version of zmud is  like 10 years old now
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: http://www.mudconnect.com/resources/Mud_Resources:Mud_Clients.html
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: I see, did not know that. I don't see why anyone would pay for a MUD client. oh well
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: To get a good decent one, with support
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: features?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: not to imply free is not good, but zMud is more polished then the alternatives I have seen
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: are addicted mud players as cheap as addicted chess players
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: and on pueblo, I guess I dated myself a bit.. "# September 11, 1998: The last day that the original Pueblo World List was updated. # LikeMinds tried (unsuccessfully) to find a developer that could continue commercial development of Pueblo to their satisfaction. # LikeMinds began proceedings to release Pueblo as open-source, allowing it to survive regardless."
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: I'm on tintin and it's quite feature rich. Looking at their website and screenshots, zMUD is merely more graphically pleasing.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the name "Pueblo" likely ruined the product
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: drtoki... i did say polished =p
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: even the name "tintin" sucks
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Don't get me started on "xyliz".
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neleus Tech: I'm using mush, why does my trigger not work if it is spread over more than one line?  The mud wraps it
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Why might my SD slot light be lighting up on my laptop for no apparent reason?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: The replicators are trying to talk to you.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I don't know what those are. :(
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Watch more Stargate!
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: So say we all!
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: For a script that would periodically scrape an xml feed, and insert the information in an sql database... any suggestions on a language of choice? perl? python? C?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: perl or python 
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Perl's designed for text manipulation, if that helps.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: it does a bit. So out of perl or python, Would one be better to learn over the other?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: here's a slighly odd one - oldish laptop, replaced hard drive in it, passes all hardware diagnostics, yet you try and install windows xp on it, gets about 2 minutes in then just turns off
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Tigernuts: Possibly temperture.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: hrmm, could be i guess
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: From what I gather, python's easier to learn.  I'm a perl guy, myself...it's really powerful once you know what you're doing...
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: they both have their uses. I prefer python and find it easier to learn, but certain tasks are easier in perl.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: But, python is probably more universal?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: My guess would be power supply - if the new HD requires more power, the PS might be overloaded.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nah, nto that
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Best guess, usually laptops that shot off after x time, is heat... possibly bad ram, but if its getting hot.... might clean the vents, maybe reapply thermal paste and the like, make sure fans running
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Could just be a faulty HD, too
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nogs, the ram and hdd are fine, so i'll do the heatsink things
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: hrn, though if it ran long enough to go through HD diagnostic, maybe not.... though possible still i guess
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: thats just it, ran through hard drive and ram diagnostics happily for an hour, xp install - 2 minutes tops
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Not sure what kind of cpu load memory/hd diagnostics cause though...
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and the odd thing that -does- suggest it's heat related is that no lockup, no error, just switch off
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: There's your problem, you're using Winblows.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: Next!
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: xp is never a problem
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: lolwat. You best be joking.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No, he's clearly one of those biggot MY OS IS BETTER THEN YURZ guys
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: still the best commercial OS on the market
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Meh, best is relative
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: i agree
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: by some margin, too
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: best IS relative. I didn't say anything was better than Windows. I'm just saying Windows is a problem.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nowt wrong with it
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: widely support, not resource hungry
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: when MsDos 6.31 and earlier was around, there was competition from other purveyors of Dos (IMB, etc), so diagnostics, self-correction and retries were present -- but as soon as Dos 7 and Win9x happened, all that was discarded in favor of Windoes simply shutting down a device (or even the machine) upon encountering an hardware error
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: Not resource hungry? Are you serious? It's extremely resource hungry
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ..
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: was Winblows not polite enough to inform you why the shutdown happened
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: wasn't a shutdown
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: runs for an hour okay when doing HD diagnostics, then overheats in 2 minutes under Win XP (?)
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not running xp, trying to install it
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and the key is: turns off, not crashes
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: that is how microsoft programmers solve hardware errors -- turn things off
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if it's a heat issue, it'd happen with any os
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: and it works, as long as you don't care about finding a solution
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: could install linux and have exactly the same fault, except safe in the knowledge that if it did install, none of the hardware would be compatible
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: exactly, that's what I've been saying all along. WinXP is your problem
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: diagnostics is at the bios or Dos level -- likely does not use the graphics functions which cause overheating
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: You'd be surprised at how much hardware is supported under GNU/Linux.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yes, surprised at how bad the support is
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: maybe the psu is underpowered
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: that statement might have been valid 10 years ago.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: just as valid now, drtoki
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: If you're open to Linux, try ubuntu - some of the best hardware support I've seen.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: your laptop isn't even top of the line. You mentioned that. I guarantee you will fine excellent Linux support
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: s/fine/find
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not mine, so i'll be avoid it
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: s/fine/find/
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: maybe the new harddrive draws too much current -- enough for diagnostics but not enough for harddrive and graphics and other peripherals
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nope
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: What do you mean nope? How can you be so confident in your answer?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: already tried a different hd is why
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: It's most likely only one of five things - connection, hardware conflicts, temperature, PSU, corrupt installation ISO
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: almost certainly temperature
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: Start eliminating and you have your answer.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: what happens if you switch back to the old drive?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: old drive is faulty
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: that doesn't answer the question though..
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: not entertaining the idea that there is something wrong with your IDE connection?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nope, because there isn't
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: when a psu is dusty with conductive dust in high humidity, reboots are like to occur, especially when the computer (and thus the psu) is lightly bumped
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: and how did you figure that out?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: testing equipment
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: so you can install winxp on another drive (not old and not the new) in the laptop?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: so you just test for continuity and rule that out immediately?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if a drive passes 12 hours of read and write diagnostics, it's ok
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: install win98se or win 3.1 and see whether that works
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: won't prove much
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: Won't prove much? How do you figure that? 
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: how much ram on the laptop
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 512mb
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: both sector read and data read?   what is the processor in your lappy?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 1ghz p3
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: could be heat. how long does a live cd last?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: don't use em
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: its time to use them, you could eliminate heat when your lappy last long enough on live cds
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: yes, but it'd involve doing something disgusting
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: disgusting?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: educate me, that i may not use them live cds again
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: Like I've said, it's likely only one of five things - connection, hardware conflicts, heat, PSU, corrupt installation ISO
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: shutdown as in:  laptop off or as in laptop freeze
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: Corrupt installation ISO dont usually shutdown installation process
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: battery (?)
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: low battery (?)
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: That's why it's lower on the list, GentooX  :)
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: laptop off, xyliz
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: hardware conflicts pre-boot stage is unlikely either
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: it's install initialization. That's post-boot as far as hardware is concerned
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i meant pre-OS sorry, minimal hardware usage during installation
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: spiking noise and brownouts on the electricity line when using a transformer (instead of battery) may cause anomalous behaviour
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: so farkyss what is that disgusting thingie when using live cd?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it's got linux on it, it must be disgusting
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: live CDs are not all Linux
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: and where did you get that idea of using linux?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: there are Windows and MacOS as well
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: spose i could use bart
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GentooX is agreeing with that Drtoki person again...
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: infrared keyboards are affected by extraneous noise from (say) those new-fangled flourescent bulbs (a flourescent bulb at home affected the tv to ignore the tv remote)
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: yes you can.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GentooX wuv Xyliz. Aww, how coot.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: is Linus Torval better looking than Bill Gates
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: not sure but id be willing to spend a night with linus than bill
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: Linus Torvalds is like Bill Gates minus glasses, plus 50 lbs
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: is Linux better looking than Windows
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: hell yes
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: no doubt
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: especially with fluxbox
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: meh, fluxbox hasn't won me over
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: its a matter of choice of course :)
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: one thing for sure though, no one can make me use a desktop manager
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: that's for sure
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: I went from KDE to Gnome to Xfce to just openbox in a matter of a week
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: minimalism
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: welcome to my world
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: It's beautiful
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: you use a GUI or simply a commandline ?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: for what?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what is openbox
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: openbox is an X window manager 
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i love tab browsing :)
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i mean tabbed window
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: I don't group windows. 
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: Then again openbox doesn't have that functionality. So it's all good 
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: hiya
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: anyone willing to help?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dizzyworm Tech: whats the prob
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: my friend can't receive any kind of messages, so we have to chat on msn
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: but he can type
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dizzyworm Tech: tell him to type QUIET and see first
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: thanks, i'll ask him to try
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: nope, quiet and deaf are off
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dizzyworm Tech: told him to check if he's on quiet.. thats the only mudside thing i can think of
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: tells don't get sent too
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dizzyworm Tech: whats his name?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: name is zyphon
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dizzyworm Tech: tells go through.. so its not mudside quiet
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dizzyworm Tech: ok do u know what client? zmud/mush/mxit?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: he's using mush
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Is he using colors?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: directly from aardwolf.com
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: he didn't set it to colors
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Have him type "color"
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dizzyworm Tech: perhaps a reset.. aardinit.. command? i think...
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jesica Tech: did he ever logged in lol
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dizzyworm Tech: maybe the window is behind another?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: he can see emotes
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Have him type "chats echo on"
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: ok his color is on
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Cool.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: ahh... fixed
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon nods.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: it was colors
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon r w00t. u best be 'spectin her auth0ratah. w00t.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dizzyworm Tech: yay!
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: oladon, u're a genius
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MeisterP claps at Apprentice Oladon's performance.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon bows deeply.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: omg, oladon is female
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon sniggers quietly to herself, reflecting over an amusing thought.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: .....? 
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MeisterP laughs out loud.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Most of the world is, you know.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon pats MeisterP on his head.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dizzyworm Tech: lmao
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: she also has chronic aardwolf addiction, so avoid!!!!
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Shes got you there
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: mmorpg = many men online role playing girls
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon gasps as she realizes what Trashbat! Anipopo did.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Who, me?!
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hmm. You could swear Trashbat! Anipopo has been here just a second ago. You wonder where he went ...
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daloran starts a rumour that all girls online have swine flu... lulz..
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon cackles gleefully at Trashbat! Anipopo.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stigon Tech: guys gossip please
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: But this is srs tech business
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: He's right. We should go talk about him on another channel.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stigon Tech: u want me to nuke u
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You couldn't if you wanted, Stigon.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stigon Tech: i can do much worse than a imm
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jesica Tech: isnt oladon also an imm ?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: So, anyone wanna take a stab... ZuneHD gonna press the prices down on the ipod touches?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Oladon is an imm, yes.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blitzed BladeofLight Tech: is an imm rofl
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Don't think they will, Daloran.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon . o O ( Oh snap, I'm an Imm?! When did that happen?! )
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I'm hopeful! 16gb Zune HD for $220, 32gb for $280...
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jesica Tech: how can a imm nuke a imm ?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Finger stigon, hes not an imm
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baroqen Tech: stigon isnt imm
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Daloran, how much have they improved the Zune from last time though?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Because the first one was a box of bolts, wasn't it?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Improved? A bit, but, I think the Zune was actually better then the comporable ipods
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: which of the imms actually code, anyway?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Most of us code one language or another.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: which of the imms code for the mud
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon looks at Daloran and goes "Hmmmm."
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Lasher.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: that it?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Xantcha has done some, but presently only Lasher, yes.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Didn't.. uhhhh..... Orcwarrior used to do a lot of it too?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: explains why thieves got totally mullered then left
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: wait
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Not sure, Daloran... I believe Maerchyng did some back in the day, but v3 was a complete rewrite
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ah no idea
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Anyhoo.. I liked my zune.... wasn't as clean as the ipods, but, I like the subscription service ms offers that apple doesn't
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon looks at Daloran and goes "Hmmmm."
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Not sure I know about that; what is it?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: $15/mo for unlimited music downloads, as long as you keep your acct active
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: i think you also got to download like 5-10 songs a month to keep permanently, but i dont recall if they had that when i still had my acct
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: $15/mo for digital music is a ripoff
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Ah, interesting.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Not really, Xyl
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: $15 is one album
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Thats about the cost of one album
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: nod
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: and the RIAA is happy with that ? 
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Apparently so.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: The RIAA is happy with anything that gives them a bit of pocket lining.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: They struck deals with the copyright holders, it is a legitimate store
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Admittedly 15/mo is a bit more of a rental model then a purchase model - but being able to access their entire music catalogue versus paying $10/album, or .99/song on itunes, is a plus for me
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: If the RIAA actually cared about the music artists, they'd have gone out of business long ago :P
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Daloran, do you have to have a Zune to do the MS library? I'm guessing so, but?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nope, you can just use the zune software
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the deal is only okay if (1) they struck deals with artists you like and (2) your tin ears like digitally recorded music
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon goes, "Hmmmm."
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: oh don't start your digital music arse again, xyliz
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Protip: Most all music is recorded digitally these days
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I think the word you were groping for and missed, was compressed
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon . o O ( Or if you do, take it to debate )
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: then that (digitally-recorded) 'all music' is crap
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: anyways this music you can dl, you can put it on a cd correct?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stigon Tech: oladon i when i type immapps2 they say its a invalid request
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Not with the subscription model Aps
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Stigon, use "tell" to talk to me, not a public channel.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon looks at Daloran and goes "Hmmmm."
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if you can download the music, you can put it on a cd
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Its encumbered with DRM, Farkyss
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: not id you are using an OS that prevent that
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: But yes, it is possible if you wish to strip the drm off
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: well, not like ton of programs don't already bring you free music if you want to take the risk that is
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nogs, you can get around DRM pretty easily
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And For $15 for legal, unlimited downloads, I'm content with that.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon crosses her arms and nods slowly and sagely to Daloran.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Daloran, do the licenses expire though?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: though quite why you'd need to put it on a cd these days i don't know
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod, if you cancel your account you loose access to the music
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Ah...
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: That's quite a system.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You can strip the drm if you wish to go that route though
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Hrm. I wonder... is it actually illegal to strip the DRM? What are the specific laws regarding that, do you know?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if the account expires, do you lose access to the music recorded onto the harddrive (?)
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon nods at Xyliz.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: That's my understanding of what Daloran just said.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Hrn, DMCA I think would apply, so technically it would be illegal, least in the states
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon goes, "Hmmmm."
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yes, Xyliz. Its more of a rental service
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: DMCA?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: But does the DMCA actually talk about editing music?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: digital millenium copyright ac
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: act
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: DMCA is anti-God
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It was my understanding the DMCA covered all DRM/Encryption of commercial products
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon looks at Daloran and goes "Hmmmm."
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Though, I'm no lawyer
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: So if it's DRM'd, you can't legally unDRM it?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Well, neither am I or I wouldn't've asked :P
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It's kind of a catch22 in a lot of situations - as you have a legal right to make a back up copy for archival purposes, or other "fair-use" situations - however, to make those legal copies, you'd have to circumvent the drm..
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon goes, "Hmmmm."
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: DRM is just generally a silly idea
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: So what if you use a copy-program to make your backup copy, and it happens to strip the DRM?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: Then that program is illegal in the US.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Farkyss: a silly idea, yes, but it's the law.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod, It is an annoyance. It doesn't stop piracy, it just makes it more of a pain in the ass for those of us who want to use the content how we see fit, even after paying
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon looks at WarPigs and goes "Hmmmm."
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: use that loophole to unDRM all the recording and do a 'legal' 'fair use' backup to DVD
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nah the programs not illegal, just using it =p
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: WarPigs: you're permitted to make one copy of any music you own for your own use, no?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And Xyliz, MPAA would follow the DMCA, and claim circumventing the drm is still illegal - that youre method of "Backup" is to play the dvd on a tv, with a camcorder pointed at it
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: However, the DRM would prevent you from doing that.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: You can make a copy but somehow that right doesn't include removing the DRM.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Hrm.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Very interesting.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You'd have to find a way to copy it, without breaking the drm.. such as the tv/camcorder, or cd player out -> line in
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Daloran: but the end result still wouldn't have a DRM
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: using a camcorder to 'backup' a film played on TV is not a pristine 'backup'
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yes, but you're not breaking the drm..
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Xyliz, thats what the mpaa would have you do, though.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: The program I'm talking about doesn't remove the DRM from the original, just copies the original to a new one without a DRM
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Still illegal?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: What if you copy the file with the DRM and strip the DRM from the copy? :P
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Dunno, I know specifically the example with the camcorder was brought up recently.. seems like it'd be the similar idea, if you say, played a drm file, and recorded the audio to an mp3
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon wonders.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: The program for doing the drm removal i know if is called Tune Bite, never used it personally though
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: it plays the file, and copys the audio to a new audio file
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Haven't heard of that one. I don't download illegal music, but I try to keep up with the laws on it, because I think the current way we're headed in that area is not good :P
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: so think it only works real time
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: What about copying something from YouTube? Is that illegal? I would think it would fall under the "public performance" laws.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: Sounds crappy. Does the file play in WMP? Try FairUse4WM.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I dunnos. I need to get a new portable media player, was hoping for an ipod, but still quite pricey for the capacity
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: I'll send you my bricked Sansa :P
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: why is it bricked?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Might be able to rockbox it =3
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: biggest problem i have with places like youtube is the garbage sound quality people always manage to get then inflict on us
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Because I had to format it and now I can't load anything on it
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: if you have it and the cable, look in to rockbox... it might be able to reflash it
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: No computer will recognize it
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ahhh
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: I've loaded rockbox on it before
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: But I actually liked the Sansa stock OS better :P
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: That was one thing that bugged me about the 1st gen zunes... they showed up to the computer as some other type of device that wasn't removable storage.... so using it under linux not an option, 3rd party software not an option..... using it as an external hd also not working..
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: whenever digital music is copied through an analog interface and redigitised, more sound-quality is lost -- only a direct digital copy is pristine
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Hrm, that's an interesting question... I haven't tried it with my Linux box.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: every time you mention the digital vs analog argument, god kills a kitten
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Apparently someone doesn't realizes CDs are digital
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: I'd love to get it working again... it's a nice piece of HW
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon snickers with Daloran about their shared secret.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod, I loved my Sansa..... the audio connector came loose, only outputs sound on 1 channel though... its irritating
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Nods, mine does too unless you wiggle it just right
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: I kept meaning to take it apart and re-solder it.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No amount of wiggleing gets sound out of the other port
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Actually, I think I was remembering wrong... mine doesn't either :P
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Same.... I just switched back to my old 1st gen shuffle... works fine, just no screen 
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Nods. I've got a c250
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Brother got like... three of them in one of woot.com's surprise bags
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ... i think thats the exact same model..
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: how does 'Tune Bite' copy the file -- bit by bit, or by playing the file and then redigitising the played content 
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon looks at Daloran and goes "Heh."
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: You can send it to me, D :P
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: nod, c250
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: no idea Xyliz
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Such a nice piece of hw... I think it's like... the newest electronic item I have :P
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Comp is 12, Clie is a few years old... my other mp3 player is a cheapo freebie I got from attending one of those scam-you dinners...
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod, it is nice, small flash based mp3 player.... met my needs fine, rockbox actually gave it quite a bit more battery life
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Ah, really?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Hmm.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if 'tune bite' copies an already copied file, are the music portions of files identical -- if yes, then exact copy, if no, then redigitisation occured 
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod, rockbox software is great.. think I was getting like 32 hours or something on the sansa
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Wow
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Again Xyliz, I've never used it, so, no idea
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: The reason I switched is because of the space bug
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: You know about that?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I dont
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: If you load a file that has a space in the filename or any of the tags, your player will freeze on startup
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: really..? I never had that problem, all my files had spaces in them
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: That's actually the reason I had to format it... and lose all my recorded stuff from my trip to Peru
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon boggles at Daloran.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Is yours a version 2?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No idea
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Mine's a refurb v1 in a v2 case
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: But yeah, it's lame
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Hrm. I should go find it and see if I can make it work :P
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: dunno... just.. sucks the way mp3 players are now... only player with decent storage is the ipod classic, which is too much
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Another big failure zune had was the third party market... things like car stereos that interfaced with them
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Nods
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: simple solution, those headphone radio transmitters
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No Fark, I mean like cd player controls / id3 tags / etc
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Headphones are generally a bad idea if you're driving a car :P
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: they're not headphones, just plug into a headphone socket of any mp3-like device, and transmit the sound on a shortrange fm frequency so your car can play the music even without the right sockets
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: most aftermarket headunits can connect to the pop port on the ipods, and play the music back that way, displaying text on the screen, and using the controls of the headunit/headunit remote for the ipod
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: also, fm transmitters are.... questionable quality.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nah, they're decent these days
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Still not as good as a direct line
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: i have a question, does anybody use an internet accelerator, i've never used one before, but is there a good one that actually does help?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Also takes either batteries, or a 12v socket in your vehicle
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: no, aps
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: speaking of spaces and null, does windows yet fail to load Win.com if a space in the filename is replaced by a null (hex 0) -- (and safe mode does not load or find the error in that case -- so the user is screwed)
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: its too early for me to understand what you were saying there, Xyl. 
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And I'm sure its my brain, not you
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: there's still a win.com file?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: what is this, windows 95?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: win98se
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: its been 10 years mang, upgrade to xp already =p
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: why would it have been renamed?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Oops, sorry... ran AFK to try to find my mp3 player cord.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Mis, but yeah... couldn't find it :(
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: a null for an ending space in the filename may be a hard error to detect, since the DIR command yet displays the filename
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: how would such an error come about?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: don't know, but that is what happened to the Win.com here long long ago after visiting an upgrade site 
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: bah, what's the name of that program that helps you slipstream service packs and drivers into an xp iso?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: nlite? vlite?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nlite ?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nlite, ta
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Anyone know how to stop the Big Map window grabbing focus on recall? It's a little annoying (MUSHclient, liunx and wine)
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: turn bigmap completely off?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: safe mode did not load properly or at all,  so in desperation loaded Dos 6.31 and looked at Directory with a utility (NU.exe), the error became obvious and was fixed rapidly
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: virus? hdd failing?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the alternative was to reload Windows from scratch
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: could've done a repair install
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: and reloading windows from scratch isn't so bad
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: already did that twice in the past two months back then, a third reload was going to be extremely annoying
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you've got something goign wrong thne
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the upgrade version of Win98se was total crap -- sorry i paid money for a legal copy -- the standalone version of Win98se on a new computer was okay
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: windows ME was crap, 2000 was good
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ME was a broken version of 98se
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: i miss 2000
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: truly, it was 98se with newer internet explorer, newer media player, and some features removed
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: it was missing dos wasn't it?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No, that was XP
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ME was still 9x
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Dos permitted utilities to look at Windows
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: microsoft screwed up badly with longfilenames
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: wasn't a screwup, it was fudging a way of allowing of stuff to be compatible with new stuff that was never designed for it
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: was a screwup by microsoft - a lot of directory space wasted with all those wasted embedded nulls
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Well tell you what, Why don't you get to work on a time machine, hop back several years, and help their programmers work it out? It'd be best for everyone, I think.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: with a time machine, i'd hop back and reinvent windows before Bill Gates did  
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: didn't somebody buy it for him and administrate it for a few years/dos?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: with a time machine, i'd hop be able to hop back and change world history -- but where to start
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: http://www.abyssandapex.com/200710-wikihistory.html
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: noice
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: It's amusing.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: quite =3
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon sniggers quietly to herself, reflecting over an amusing thought.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: half open connections
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fyng Tech: How do I add album art to Foobar2000?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: ac97 codecs are a pain in the arse
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Then you're not installing them in the right place
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GentooX grins evilly.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: they're a pain in the arse because most pc info software will tell you what compliancy the audio has, but not what model it is. makes getting drivers for any os a pain
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: whereas in the olden days you just had different models of sound card and that was it
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what about the info displayed by the bios on bootup
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: never displays sound card
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: never has done on any pc i know of
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: even with pnp audio cards (?)
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: no such thing
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: a very few, in the olden days, used to list installed cards in post, but that's more than a decade ago
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: yay isa
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: eheh a decade ago was not the odl days :)
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: in pc terms it might as well been
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i wonder if the P75 i found is one of the original ones with the FP bug
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: in pc terms 18 months ago is the olden days
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: P75 is so obsolete and so slow
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: that's overstating it, anything up to about 3-4 years is 'current'
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: those old chips still have uses. There are a few games I can only play on what would otherwise be considered a boat anchor of a machine
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: they won't play on vm?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Gravis Ultrasound Max used to be pnp (just before they disappeared)
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: some of the older games didn't have any sort of timing, they used the processor speed
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: so trying to run them on current hardware, they run impossibly fast
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: can use moslo or similar emulation
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: yeah
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: moslo does not always work
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod fark, or run it on an older system
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: but try to buy a working old system these days
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: there are loads about
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: its not hard dude
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i dispatched a 486-dx33, a p75, and a p2-233 last night
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: so no, not hard to find
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: usually the local mom and pop comp stores are the easiest places to pick them up at
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: mom and pop?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: surely that doesn't happen in computing :-)
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it's hardly knitting
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: you know what I mean
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: yes, darling
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: is there a simple way to send 'c *' when 'you lose concentration while trying to cast %1' I'm trying to figure out a way to automatically recast the spell that has failed, maybe you can escort me to a good forum that would explain how to do this?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: what client
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: mush client
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: save yourself a giant headache and install Basts spellup plugin
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: Is it stable with the newest aard mush client?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: http://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/Aardwolf_Spellups
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: Is it pretty complicated to have the client send a command when text appears in the main window? for instance if it recognizes "you've been disarmed" the client would send get weapon
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: nah, thats easy. Justs etup a trigger from the disarm msg
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: also, there is an eq swap plugin on the mush webby that will help with disarms as well I believe
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: I use this as a trig for aardweps *DISARMS you and you struggle not to drop your weapon!
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: you put that in the Trigger: ?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: then in the 'send' window you type whatever you want to do when you see that message?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: right
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: so you would want to wield it
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: mm
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: there is likely better ways to do the crap I do, but it works for me
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: When I go to that site it doesn't have the actual xml file for the spellup plugin, its trying to make get a whole new client...?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: you sound like you have no clue fibo
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: do I just replace the files that I have with the ones from http://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/Download   ?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: ok I think I got it to work, but its showing some of my skills as debuffs, that normal?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: yes, install the needed files as it tells you. If the filename already exists then overwrite
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: only hide should show as a debuff
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aps Tech: i hope you didn't delete any files
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: while you are at his webpage, you may want to take a look at some of the other plugins as well. Good stuff
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: oh ffs
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: this ati graphics card has no drivers in either ati's new catalyst suite OR the legacy one
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: how incredibly helpful. nto
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: uh, how old is the card?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: a year
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: it deffo has drivers available
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: not from ati it doesn't
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: what card
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: hd2600 agp
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: what os
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: xp
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: pro...64..
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: home 32
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: Fedraz is your spellup plugin recognize 'heighten' as a spell?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: try this driver
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: http://www.downloadatoz.com/driver/download_12208.html
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: broken link
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: no promises
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: erm
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: http://www.downloadatoz.com/driver/item_274602.html
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: heighten what Fibo
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: just that, its a skill
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: broken link also
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: I can't add it using spellup + heighten because its a skill, ah well
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: I dont see how since I am at the pages..
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: try downloading it yourself then
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you'll get a page cannot be displayed
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: oh you meant further down, misunderstood. one sec
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nogs
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: the achilles heal of the dodgy internet download site
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: Fibo type spellups + heighten
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: works just fine
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: though it begs the question -why- isn't it part of the standard cayalyst driver set?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: it supports the pcie version just not agp it seems
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: which is horseshit
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Language.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: whoops
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i guess that's what you get when you hire female web admins ;-)
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: and so many third party driver sites are um....junk to put it nicely
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: was your machine a pre built?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: like dell or hp or whatnot
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nope
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: realtek's website is utter garbage, too
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: the support for that card is abysmal
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: what about omega drivers
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: realtek's idea of a great downloads page is to have 3 of the 4 mirrors not actually work, and the 4th be a special 'express' server
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: which is currently giving out a great 11k/s
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wriath Tech: anyone here good with scripts that could assist me with something?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: should be made illegal to advertise a download you haven't got
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: if those you are downloading now dont work, give these a go http://www.omegadrivers.net/ati.php
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: I have never seen such horrible support for a card from a major company thats as recent as the one in question
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: omega drivers aren't wdm, you know
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: and why does every site want to insist you install some crappy driver scanner thing full of spyware?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i'm going to cheat and try and find the card manufacturer
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: oh how damned convenient
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: Subsystem ID 00281002h: Unknown
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: growl
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: in my trigger I have "You lost your concentration while trying to cast *" how do I get rid of the period at the end of the spell? because when I have it send "c %1" it for example will send "c aid." it won't recongnize it as a spell because of the period. anyone?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Use a \. at the end
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: oh awsome, will negate anything after the \ ?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: er, what I clarify after the \ I mean
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wriath Tech: is there a way to make mushclient display a window with my group's status?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Mandy Mandorallen Tech: It'll try to match the pattern including the period. The \ just escapes the period.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: on a side note, does anyone have the Adobe Jenson series of fonts?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: another thing that should be punishable by death is every torrent search site that claims to have exactly what you typed in, only to find it's a 'sign up for a non-existant download service for $20 a month'
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Usenext? :P
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Searon Tech: or when you search for a video file and they say they have it, cracked, full install, like wth?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: anyhew, i'm looking for someone with the janson and jenson font files
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spodgy Tech: Anyone compiled OpenGL examples in VC++ Express?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: happy days, found the hd2600 agp driver
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: laff, where from
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: sapphire website
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: had to do some searching of the FCC ID tags on the graphics card to tell me it was a card by them
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: but talk about having it made difficult for yourself...
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: do I get two words to match in mushclient for example  failed to cast "cure blindness" would cast the two words "cure blindness" not just "cure" which would be a healing spell
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: failed to cast * *       sends   c %1 %2?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: last on the people to scream at, it seems, is Realtek
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: why can i find Jenson Pro font everywhere but not just Jenson Regular?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: anyway to test a trigger?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Use the mudside 'echo' command
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: in zmud/cmud there is an area in the trigger settings to test, or use echo
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: You lost your concentration while trying to cast aid. how do I type that into the trigger bar to omit the period at the end of the sentence?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: how do you set it in mush so you don't see the world file saved msg?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: still looking for a font called 'Adobe Jenson Regular' if anyone has it
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: gawd
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: this is impossible
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: not even the font sellers can get it right
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: you still looking for that?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: yep
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: and it seems that font sellers are retarded because they don't seem to realise that version control is important
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TwilightEyes Tech: in the aardworlf mush client, how do you put an alias in an alias?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: try http://www.linotype.com/43718/adobejensonregular-font.html
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: that isn't it
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: that's Jenson Pro Regular
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: http://www.linotype.com/43708/adobejenson-family.html
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: any of those?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: no, that's the Pro family
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: even tried font folia 9, 10 and 11
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: font folio, even
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TwilightEyes Tech: i want to put an alias into an alias, but it doesn't work. i can do it in zmud but not in mush, any help please?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: so looking for font folio 8 or older
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: 5tp to the person to bring me the right one
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: whats the name of the font you need
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: anyone have adobe cs2?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: how do you make a trigger interpret special characters?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Quote the special characters.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: any1 knows howto jave a trigg to stop when given a command to stop (from the mud)
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: while(strcmp(input) == 0) { }
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: TY
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: which client scara, and do mean you have an alias to stop the trigger?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: anyone have any hints for my question in Question chan?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: is it illegal to like, scan | grep <target & direction & #of rooms away> then automate going that way?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: I'm so p'eed off about my stupid laptop having crappy volume with the headphones, is there a program I can dowload to boost it?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: well, are they crappy headphones?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: no, thats the thing, I've tried 4 different pairs since yesterday
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: its something about the drivers I think, but I can't find the right ones to d/l
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: laptops dont have high volume to begin with though, if you really want to crank it up and you are at a stationary place... hook up speaks and then hook up headphones to those speakers
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: howto disable all channels outpit from main window in aardchannel?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: chats echo off
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: TY
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: HAH, I just dug up some old pc speakers that are 10 years old, hooked them up to laptop then headphones into them, can blast it now. laptops = sucky audio cards. woot thanks
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phlox Tech: what laptop are you runnin..?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: I'm sort of ashamed to say its a Acer Aspire 7110, walmart special baby...
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: np running aard, thats all I use it for, and youtube. my dad watches tv superloud in the same room so I have to have headphones on
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WeaponGuy Tech: Wal-Mart is having a sale starting at midnight... $350 for a 17" Toshiba.
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phlox Tech: yeah - that's the wonderful thing about playing aard text based game.. you can play on the old inexpensive equipment and still run fine..
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phlox Tech: i play on a laptop as well but i have a problem, maybe you've experienced this, if so, could u give me some tech advice.. When i download a file the higher the download speed the more my laptop grinds to a slow pace.. when the download stops.. the speed returns to normal.. any ideas..?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: I just sort of stay away from d/l in general
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: you got live filescanning on?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phlox Tech: I'm also runing vista home premium
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: or bit torrent if you filter your traffic and use that alot, might be alot of work happening
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: keylogger or spyware could slow it down too
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phlox Tech: i use utorrent, but it seems to happen on any downloading applications.. even youtube videos etc.. 
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: how many proccesses you have running when you open task manager?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phlox Tech: let me check, 
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: this was my moms laptop, she had about 80 proccesses going, yeesh, I have it down to about 50, that sped things up ALOT
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phlox Tech: 85 processes.. is that alot..?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: Oh yea...depends on your processor speed though
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nitrana Tech: Does anyone use Atreidess' Quest tracker script?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phlox Tech: ok,, i'll see if i can kill some of em that don't look necessary..
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: when I had my own computer I had it down to about 20-25 processes
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: oh yea, its trial and error... some of them will shutdown your comp
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i have 67 running
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: if you google a process name there's quite a few sites that you can cross reference about it
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: you can google how to keep some programs from starting up, and find out which you don't need
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Knot Fibo agrees!
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: good trick: if when ending processes it starts to shutdown your computer (a popup will open saying shutting down in 30 secs) open cmd and type shutdown -a
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phlox Tech: thanks i'll try it. 
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: system mechanic & ad aware are a couple useful apps you could run too
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: see which tweaks from system mechanic applies and find info about them oonline then apply them yerself, so you don't gotta pay :p
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: or buy a subscription, comes with a firewall now though i think, you can probably get around that though
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phlox Tech: Kheftiu, you mentioned live filescanning,.. how do i check if that's currently running..?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: in your virus scanner options somewhere
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: mcaffee is configure->computer and files
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: real-time protection
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seranoma Tech: pfft mcaffee
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: don't go surfing strange sites with that off though
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phlox Tech: i always try to get by with the free antivirus apps.. well, free everything app really... think it's worth it to drop the money for a full version..?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: on windows i would, on linux i wouldn't bother
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: windows isn't free by default, and users of it got enemies everywhere ,lol
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: if i had to use a free one, i'd use a free one mentioned in a popular tech magazine though
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phlox Tech: AVG..?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: cause they're kind of liable to check stuff out before suggesting it
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: yeah i think that was mentioned in a computer mag or more
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seranoma Tech: avg is buot the best you can get for free
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seranoma Tech: panda antivirus is the best 30day or buying
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i thought avast got number 1 free anti virus one year
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: google's your friend when lookin for cross references, if you know popular computer magazine sites, try typin in the name of a program in their search engine
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: might grab an article or two
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phlox Tech: some of my freinds say that spybot search and destory is a must have.. you agree..? or is there something better out there,.?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i had spybot before, last update was like in 2003 i think
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seranoma Tech: *nods*
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: kind of a shady program imo, but if it's legit it's good
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: adaware always served me good
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: if you know what you're doing the best removal tool is hijackthis, best scanning tools is ad-aware and spybot...spybot kinda is the best performer now imo
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: if you ever get some real nasties, a tool has now been collaborated for a specific rootkit, it used to be vundofix now it's combofix
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: but don't use it if you don't have that specific problem but it does a nice job of unhijacking your computer
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowzero Tech: does anyone know how to turn paging off in mushclient?
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: scroll 0
T1/r7/2009-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowzero Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: is there a neat little way to edit variables using triggers/aliases in mush?
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: SetVariable
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: really simple example?
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: try the mush website, Nick Gammon has a walkthrough for ir, and even a video
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: it*
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: SetVariable ("simple", "blah")
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: what Fedraz said
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i've seen it, it's a lot for me to chew on and doesn't make much sense yet
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: do you guys know what tools he used to zoom and highlight parts on the screen?
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: no idea but that was badass
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: it is pretty cool
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: just ask, that guy answers all of my dumb arsed questions
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: anyone brave enought to ask him?
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: you can do it buttercup
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: please blainer :)
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i post my epicfails at writing plugins so that can't be nearly as bad :P
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: you are his fave o rite
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: the question I want answered nwo is why the heck don't just do it?
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: im not brave enought :)
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: maybe you could get his email off the site and try that?
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: good idea. thanks :)
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: what do you think the original bzip format messed with for the us sniffing programs?
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: probably resembles some crypto stuff
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: bzip2's a replacement they claim is better so people don't look at the original
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: another example of a useful thing becoming illegal
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: how can a math algorithm be illegal?  who knows
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: 1+1=3 damn it!  
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: bzip is compression?
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: yeah
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: and it's illegal?
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i noticed this thing when studying headers for tar archives and cpio and that new format and stuff
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: in the us yeah, in canada we can use it
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: openbsd has it in its ports
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: illegal or banned or whatever they call it
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: sorry for dumb Qs, but why??
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: what got banned/what exactly is this discussion? im not familiar with it apparently
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i don't think i figurd that out
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: but i kept it in my memory cause it stuck out like a sore thumb
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: I'll say, think I'll google that
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: there was a guy in the US that went to jail over a encryption algorith if I recall
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: uhh, how?
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: There was the PGP guy, but I don't recall that he ever went to jail.
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: at, us patents it says there
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: like stealing someone's patent doesn't put you in jail
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: this was because it's illegal to export encrytion from US I think, was years agon now
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik nods at Blainer.
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: oh! k
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: bzip-*archivers/bzipSome algorithms used may
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: infringe certain US patents.  Opinions differ.  Commercial use could render you liable to unfriendly legal action.
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: conspiracy theory goes once the Gov crack the encyption they let him out
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik nods at Blainer.
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: or dropped charges
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Dropped charges.
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: yeah, it waas for political reasons - there was a tine whn it was illegal to export a 386 that used a 16 bit processor 
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: alright, that makes sense then
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: but if it's already exported and available everywhere else, that makes no sense again
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: just some old unresolved issue?
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: qr
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: what was the syneax for turbing on/off echo on mainscreen
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: chats echo off
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: "main screen turn on"
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what you say?
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: Ok, ty
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: gonna have to build some ascii roman numeral system
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: oops mischan
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: we probably wouldn't even have anything like this to play with 
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: mischan
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Does python require compiling? Or is there a way to run scripts without it
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: It's done on the fly
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduka Tech: I run mine through idle.
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Is there a way to compile it? Or is everyones code transparent to everyone else
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: still can't find this damned font ;-)
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: wingdings?
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: Jenson Regular
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: seems to have vanished down a big hole, nobody has it, nowhere can i download it
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: today i might try and learn how to refurbish lithium ion battery packs
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: the back button web browsers are kind of pointless these days
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Real Heafmo Tech: how much would a non-afk mushclient logged into aard effect things like internet gaming from the same connection?
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: none
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: wirelessly connected, or what?
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: i mean, either way, it should be minimal.
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: telnet uses almost no bandwidth
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Real Heafmo Tech: I thought it would be minimal, just checking what other people thought, had a particularly laggy few games.
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus wonders why svchost is taking up half his cpu usage...
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Isn't it a catchall for some server or kernel activity?
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: its used by many things, including bad stuff
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: SVChost is a terrible attempt by MS to minimize process usage
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Though I recently skimmed an article about Singularity, and it seems interesting.
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: There are several of them. This one apparently serves as windows driver foundation, portable device enumerator service, desktop window manager session manager (redundancy? :P), program compatibility, network connections, human interface device access, offline files, and windows audio endpoint builder...
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: I'd kill it. But that's just me.
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus just stopped the superfetch and trkwks services. :\
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Another that's taking a quarter of it is power/plug and play/dcom server process launcher... *sigh*
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: your computer has aids
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: How are you reading all this, Charneus? 3rd party app?
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: has it been sleeping with monkies?
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seraion is agreeing with that Tigernuts person again...
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Trurien: No, from task manager.
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: As opposed to monkeys..
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: has it made a recent trip to africa, or san francisco?
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seraion Tech: Command Prompt, tasklist /svc
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: monkies!
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus snickers with Tigernuts about their shared secret.
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Oo... fixed the problem. Apparently, it was detecting a microphone plugged in, then not detecting it. So, it kept switching Recording devices from 'plugged in' to 'unplugged', which was causing the high spike in cpu usage...
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Heh, Ok.
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Yeah... odd.
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Is it actually plugged in, though?
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I had to plug it in to stop it.
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien goes, "Hmmmm."
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: It wasn't even near the mic port.
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wriath Tech: anyone know where I can get a spellup other script?
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i'm having problems with the arrdowlf mushclient using vista
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: it will not save my world file
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: and i can't even change the permissions on the folder from read only
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: sounds like vista
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: true but i can't change that
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: You need to either run it in XP compatibility mode, move it out of Program Files, or run it as administrator
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Any of those will work.
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: k restarting now with xp compatibility and administrator mode enabled hope this works :)
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: You don't need both
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Hmmm... there has to be a way to send form submission information from a command line...
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Anyone have any thoughts on it?
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: curl?
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Hmmm... was thinking more about running it from CMUD or something. *ponder*
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Perhaps a PHP script.. I don't know :P
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: perl 
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus reaches down and scratches himself...  Now he looks VERY happy. 
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Er...
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ravage Tech: anyone tried the aardwolf client?
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir raises an eyebrow at Ravage's weird actions.
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: anyone using a simple/stable exp tracker that will average exp earned per hour, please direct me to the site where I can get it. MushClient
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: there is a walkthrough to make a kill tracker. A video maybe but a walkthrough for sur eon making a kill tracker. Apply those lessons to making an xp tracker
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: ah, k
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: if you get stuck on anything specific, make a forum post there and most likely Nick or somebody else will lend a hand
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: I cheated and found this xp, tracker shows average xp per hour, tracks killed mobs, simple.  http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=8777
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: Anybody know how to image a CD with data and audio tracks?
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nero or similar will do it
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: Will I get a standard format like ISO or is that not possible in this situation?
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: yeah, iso or nrg or somesuch
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: nrg is proprietary
T1/r7/2009-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: also very common
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: On python: By the way, the language is named after the BBC show Monty Pythons Flying Circus and has nothing to do with reptiles. Making references to Monty Python skits in documentation is not only allowed, it is encouraged! 
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik is nodding his head so wildly you wonder if it will fall off. No, you hope it will.
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: makes me chuckle
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: is there a way to disable confirmation in the official mushclient when i press up to repeat a command?
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: when i have already entered a command?
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: that do you wanna replace crap?
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: exactly that is very annoying
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: if i press up i know what i'm doing
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: never bothered to look..checking now
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I've seen a checkbox for that before.
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: its likely in front of my face but I'm not seeing it
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: same here i am not seeing it oh well
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: in windows, whats the best place to add to the path statement?
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: how do you add/deduct ato7from anvariable (in c it would be x=x+1 assuming x is previously defined as an variable) ? 
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: what client are you using?
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: the normal musclient that you get from webpage
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: the official aard client? no idea, but look for a math command. eg. #math x {x+1}
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: OK
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Little Alhena Tech: Anyone knows if there's a recommended limit about the number of files in a single directory on WinXP ?
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: a google founds that 20 mill files have been tested on NTFS however most apps won't handle that
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: NTFS 5
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Little Alhena Tech: got issues with a folder with over 18K files inside, takes forever to load explorer
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Little Alhena Tech: only thing i could figure being a problem is the files count
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: defrag and scan disk?
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: 18k files what of?
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Little Alhena Tech: pics
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: heh ok
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: What view mode?
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Little Alhena Tech: basically a website directory
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: maybe make some sub directories
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Default thumbnail view will be really slow
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Little Alhena Tech: nods, but requires lots of changes in website structure ;)
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Little Alhena Tech: it's just list view
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: maybe try and find a similar file name you can change all the html files with regex to a new dir?
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Little Alhena Tech: nah, php, one file deals with this all - just that photo repository is too large
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: batch remane
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Little Alhena Tech: going to add some gallery folders instead, and mod the script - and make a script to move the pics in right folders :)
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: batch rename files and change php?
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: your way sounds better
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rasid Tech: anyone know why My CPU usage keeps spiking from 4-7 percent to 70-100 percent randomlybut quite frequently? 
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: Why don't you check your processes?
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: because something is using a lot of CPU power randomly, but quite frequently?
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rasid Tech: According to the processes list, there are a lot of SVC.host application (over 8).
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: It's just that virus erasing your harddrive after it analyses all your keystrokes.
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: omg!  reformat!
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Heh... I had that same problem yesterday. :P
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: You're on Windows, should have guessed. Get process explorer, it allows you to see what your svc hosts are controlling.
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rasid Tech: Found em
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: It's probably just a bunch of network services.
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rasid Tech: Ah, just stupid automatic startup programs and applications. Disabled the ones i dont need
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: By the way, it's completely natural to have several svchost.exe processes running.
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rasid Tech: Ya, but they shouldnt be taking up 60 percent of dual 2.0 processors
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: It is natural, but doesn't mean it isn't problematic
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus chuckles politely.
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: check out http://www.blackviper.com/WinVista/servicecfg.htm to see what you can disable safely.  That is if you are on Vista.  There are also xp and 7 lists.
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: My problem yesterday was that my computer thought I was plugging/unplugging my microphone when it wasn't even plugged in. :P
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rasid Tech: VIsta unfortunatly
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Charneus:  did you try plugging it in and removing it in the exact opposite pattern to negate it?
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Nah. I just plugged it in and it was happy again. Later on, I unplugged it and it had no fits.
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: the computer missed its microphone.  How cute.
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods at Blessed Balaam.
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rasid Tech: Its a microphone junky. just needed its fix
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: whats a good anti-spyware/adware/malware program? dumbass neighbor kids got on my computer and loaded up a bunch of porn saturday night and now i gotta clean this mess up
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piston Tech: i like avg free
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piston Tech: i've used it for years and never had any trouble
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: people arent usually man enough to admit it themselves.  i use hijackthis for everyday maintenance of moms comp
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: avg isn't finding the malware and stuff tho. 
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: sorry it took so long to respond, son broke his bedroom door. lol
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: try malwarebyte?
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piston Tech: i just like avg because it doesn't slow down my machine like the others do
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: I use avg myself, i love it. lol. 
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: what i keep getting is that popup that says you're computer has been infected, and when you click anything it redirects you to another website with a fake scanner running
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oblige Tech: what command is tgere to prevebt msfs frn chabbels on main window?
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piston Tech: i don't look at porn everday though
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piston Tech: just every other day
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: lol. i don't at all. stupid neighbor kids spent the night with my son and got on here at like 3 am and was looking it up. i told thier mom about it and she blames it on her ex. No, it's 14 year old boy..
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piston Tech: what about microsoft's malicious software tool...would that work?
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: never used it. where do i access it
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: a good read for A/V http://www.av-comparatives.org/images/stories/test/ondret/avc_report21.pdf
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piston Tech: not sure exactly...its through microsoft i'm sure google will get you there
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: have you tried malwarebytes?
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: not sure if thats what your looking for though
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: stapleface have you tried to google the exact message? it usually works wonders
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: if you are still trying to get rid of crap, load up in safe mode and run hijackthis
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: not yet, running avg now again to double check, then i got adaware i'm gonna run, and then malwarebytes
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: sweet
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: and then slap the crap outta whoever was browing porn with IE
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: those AV stuffs dont usually work well when the machine is already infected, some of them worms/virus actually disables those AVs
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yup. The best part to replace is the keyboard-chair interface. That usually leads to the most problems.
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: yeah, they usually go after the more popular ones like McAfee and Norton but they possible go after AVG. A bigger concern with AVG imo is its detection rate
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: yup low detection rate. usually 3 weeks behind
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: likely better off running housecall
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: http://housecall.trendmicro.com/
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: waht about spynomore
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: never heard of it
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: dont use it
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: i had to remove it from a lady's computer
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: it greatly affects system speed
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: and didnt detect anything
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i just want to get rid of this one spyware i got
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i don't care how slow it is, it's getting wiped afterwards
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: try spybot s&d
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: it wasent a pleasure to remove
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: but a mixture of trendmicro and spybot s&d should work hasent failed me yet
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: even try adaware is you want
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: for spyware, I just run Spybot/Hijackthis once a week or so and most else is snagged before it gets on the machine with SpywareBlaster
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: but alot of time housecall will remove spyware
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: if all those wont work. google the culprits.  load a live cd, delete the culprits.
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: the only thing I dont like about ad-aware and spybot is they are not proactive. They wait for crap to be on the machine...spyware blaster prevents the poop from ever getting on
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: my favorite spybot removal is gentoo ever since i installed that i have never gotten any viruses/spyware/adware
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Actually Spybot watches registry changes like a hawk.
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: tea timer?
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: teatime3r 
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon nods.
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: teatimer stops it
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i only have a few websites i actually go to, and they're safe. this is a random thing that happened and i told the kids they're not allowed over anymore
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: for you and me and most in the chan thats fine...slap that on a novice's rig and see what happens
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: it didn't help he lied to me 3 times about it and didn't apologize.. 
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Fedraz, I've been in tech support for a number of years.
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: so have I, people freak at the popups about such and such wanting to have access to the reg and they never know what it is or if its fine
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: you can make it auto block without popups :P
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon nods at Ageha.
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Or you can train your users to be smart.
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: not all reg changes you want to block..
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: since it has a list of blacklisted programs and reg changes
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: it only autoblocks the black list
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: It's not that hard to read popups, and I find that a lot of people do it pretty well if they're encouraged and taught.
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: Ive used it myself and had no issues. For every client I installed it on, it was a headache
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I think training users is the long-term way to go.
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon is agreeing with that Trurien person again...
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: mushclient aard chat plugin doesn't seem to be saving echo off for me... is it supposed to?
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: the one in the client doesn't save, the one at http://code.google.com/p/bastmush/ does
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i asked this last night but still don't know if it is possible...is it possible to get rid of the popup confirmation when i press up arrow to repeat the last line when i have something in the line already?
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: in the official aarwolf mushclient
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: thank you, that is the answer I'm looking for
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Cookar Game->Configure->Commands then the Keyboard Preferences button, then uncheck "Confirm before replacing typing:
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cookar thanks Xavier Jetter heartily.
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: uhh...that was supposed to thank you bast...
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I figured :)
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I need help remembering the name of a software
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: It's a great piece of dvd-burning softwares
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: nero
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: It's opensource and free
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: er... cdrdao
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Small, but very competend
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: For windows
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: burnatonce?
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Nope... Keep on going
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: It's main-gui consists of 6 items, I believe it used to be a dvd-decryptor
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I think it used to be known as DVD Decrypter
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Ah! Imgburn :D
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Thanks for the help :D
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: I use DVDFlick
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: That good?
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: basically a front end that uses other open source dvd tools in the background
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: its very easy to use
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Ever tried Imgburn?
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: it uses imgburn to burn the dvd :p
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Oh, haha
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Then I know it's good ;)
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Everyone should use imgburn :P
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: I use it to copy my movies or make dvds from individual video files to watch on the TV
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yeah? It got good "themes" for home-made dvd's?
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I usually just burn the avi's out on a dvd :P
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: But if it's easy to make good looking menu's I might aswell do that
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: nods, its free, just download and take a look
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I shall, thanks for the advice :)
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NyteLf Tech: how do i turn of the co ordinates displayed after the map of my position
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NyteLf Tech: does anybody know how to get rid of da co ordinates displayed on my aard
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: tags coords off?
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tensaw Tech: someone has a link to the "tick_timer" plugin for MUSH?
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: probably
T1/r7/2009-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: how aboot searching for it?
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: Anyone know the hotkey's to open up the timers in config quickly in Mush?
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: like shift-ctrl-0?
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: nope
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Which window are you talking about, then?
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: ^game, config, timers
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: then yeah... that would be shift-ctrl-0
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: thats what balaam was saying
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: that is a "zero", not an "oh", by the way.
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: some reason its not working
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: do you have any accelerator overriding it?
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: not that I know of
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: this is odd
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: print out the accelerators with:  /for _, v in pairs (AcceleratorList ()) do Note (v) end
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: if you have Lua as the scripting language, that is.
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Actually, this is a bit more reliable:  /for _, v in pairs (AcceleratorList () or {}) do Note (v) end
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: I have no idea what that is balaam, where can I paste that? hehe
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: into the command line.
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: actually, do any of the shortcut keys work?  Like shft-ctrl-6 for scripting?
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: yup that opens scrip
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: as does sht ctrl 9 opens alias
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Yeah, then either you have an accelerator overriding it, or...  erm...  something else?  :)
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: And you can open it going through the menu at the top?
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: yea, but I just want to know how to get to it quicker
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: it saves about .5 sec, that adds up =P
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Just checking to make sure it works through other methods.
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: ah well, maybe its the actual cpu I'm on, doesn't recognize the 0 as being a 0 or something, bleh
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: actually, where maybe I can look up in mush client to find the hotkey's to stuff? because I don't actually know why ctr shft 9 will give me aliases.... but at one point I did... know what I mean?
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: it should be listed right in the menu.
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: that's where I looked up the timers bit.  I rarely ever use those, so I don't remember that off the top of my head.
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: dammnit. google gets you no matter what I guess.
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: What a friggin trip, I go to 'game, config, and it shows all the hotkeys. shft ctrl 0 won't open up, but all the other ones do
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: balaam what exactly was that code you gave me earlier, will that help you think?
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: it will just show the accelorators.  /for _, v in pairs (AcceleratorList () or {}) do Note (v) end
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: if any show Ctrl+Shift+0 it will override the system defaults.
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: uhh. how can grep long less output with scrolling?
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the scroll feature disappears after i use | egrep blabla :\
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: what? just pipe it through less?
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: if i less the file, i can scroll, but not with grep :\
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm sleepy and can't remember how to do it properly
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: what is the command you're using?
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: less log | egrep something
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: cat log | egrep something | less
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir bonks himself and grimaces in pain.
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siruz Tech: where can i get scripts
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: which client?
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siruz Tech: im playing via phone
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: that would be hard. the only to do it is to connect to a PC with a feature rich
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: through VNC or ssh
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siruz Tech: can you get me scripts i will pay you
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: scripts are usually coupled with a client such as mushclient,zmud,cmud,tintin++,tinyfugue
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: what client are you using in your phone?
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siruz Tech: i think im using zmud or cmud
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: for zMUD try http://www.not-porn.com/Aardwolf
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: for cmud try davos.aardcharn.com
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: and for mushclient ?
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: this would be the first stop http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=6565
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Happydog Madcatz Tech: mushclient forums has a bunch
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Happydog Madcatz Tech: And actually, I think both of the other sites given have MUSH plugins/scripts as well.
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: they dont have 3 wins
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: by not killing the final mob, not if you have 2 mobs
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i dont understand 1 bit. but im thinking its a real problem.  i hope itll get solve soon, sorry for being a messing with you a while back.
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: what is that wepsite for mushclient triggers (srcipt)
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: what is that wepsite for mushclient triggers (srcipt)
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: can someone please guide me of setting a triger or point me to a decent helpfile im using mushclient
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: i think theres one on the mush website
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: the easiest Muchclient trigger if the highlight, select text and right click, from there look at the trigger you set
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ravage Tech: anyone using cmud?
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teddybbeer Tech: any tintin users here? prefer ppl who use tintin version 1.96+ for windows
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I'm using 1.99 for linux, but what's up? :P
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teddybbeer Tech: how i do increase scrolback?
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teddybbeer Tech: atm it has only like 3 pages..
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: No idea, have you tried searching online? I seem to have always got by with the current scrollback setting. I think there should be a line somewhere in the basic .tin file ...
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: anyone on the tech channel that can help me with a variable on mushclient
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: that would mean the world to me :)
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: I'll try
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: how do you get decimals in cmud division?
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I don't know cmud, but some languages give decimals if you provide it decimals: eg, instead of 5/2, try 5.0/2.0
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I wonder how long this will take:   time grep -m 1 "the works of Shakespeare" /dev/urandom
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: who needs monkeys
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowzero Tech: is there a way to assign other keys other than numeric keypad? i.e. i'm playing on a laptop without numeric keypad and moving around takes twice as long
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: turn on your numpad
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowzero Tech: doesnt work for some reason...
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowzero Tech: is there a way to set an alias so you don't have to press enter for it to register?
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: which client
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Shadowzero: that is called a macro
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowzero Tech: mush
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: And once again, we get to the issue of:  what client?
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Look up Accelerator in the script functions.
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can always use the fkeys
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowzero Tech: hmm well i want to use the =][\ keys for up down left right
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: that's what Accelerators are for.  You can assign whatever you would like to them.
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope, can't...can shift it over a bit though
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowzero Tech: googling accelerator......
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You could always whip something up with autohotkey
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: accelerators can only be alphanumeric according to a quick glance of the helps
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: try numlock and keypad?..
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why google when the client has helps built-in?
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that was the first suggestion, fibo :-)
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Unless you are on Vista, then it's no longer built in :S
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: my chat bar is small =P
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowzero Tech: i am on vista =P
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: download winhlp.exe & it is
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's no reason to not use the full MUSH helps
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowzero Tech: this isnt my computer, so i'm having trouble config everything =)
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the entire helps are on mushclient.com as well
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: mushclient 4.43 zip version is a portable client
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, you don't seem to have any issue installing MUSHclient, winhlp directly from microsoft isn't an issue
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: ok, I can get Accelerators working for "\", "[", and "]", but not "="
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowzero Tech: hehe i'll just live with nsew =P
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, I had just glanced at the helpfile, it looked like it had a row of numeric, then a row of the alphabet...didn't look close enough at the "words" below those to realize that they were names of keys
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: It's not a complete list, unfortunately.  Like the "\[]" keys weren't listed, but they worked anyway.
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cain killd Abelinc looks around for the Noname and NonConvert keys
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: "Accept" is my favourite on that list.
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I wonder why it won't let you match on the "any" key...
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Wheres the any key..?
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Daloran:  http://abernook.com/prod/Panic-Button-Gift-Set.asp
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nice =p
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xahuia Tech: I just got an error that said press F13 to continue, Where the Heck is F13?
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Shift-F1. :p
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: next to the any key?
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I've often wanted to call tech support for various software companies when it says "Press any key to continue" and pressing "shift" doesn't do anything.
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xahuia Tech: wtf where is the any key =(
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I already answered that...  http://abernook.com/prod/Panic-Button-Gift-Set.asp
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xahuia Tech: I should have listened to the computer geek at best buy and given my computer to a infant who coulda got better use out of it =(
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xahuia Tech: Okay, Has anyone else ran across that virus that has the fake antivirus and alerts?
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Yeah, I love that one.
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: AV2009?
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: SuperAnitVirus! :P
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods at Blessed Balaam.
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: I don't go to those kinds of websites
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Xahuia..... Thats like going to a bowling alley and asking for a ball with holes in it
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: There are some well done websites for that.  I can almost see why people would click on it.
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xahuia Tech: Know how to get rid of it so I can watch my movie in peace =(?
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: erm...  reformat?  :)
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xahuia Tech: Dang things seeped through my anti-virus twice.
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Disconnect from the internet. ;)
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xahuia Tech: =( Ugh.
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xahuia Tech: Tried watching Push 3x right?
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: reformat.  The process will take hours and hours, you can easily watch your movie without having to mess with it further
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Xahuia: Look up 'getting rid of av2009' through google. Tons of sites tell you how.
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xahuia Tech: Got that virus 3x in a row and had to reformat each time.
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: av2009 is easy, all you have to do is restore points.
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Never have to reformat due to that virus.
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I don't even want to know how you got it that often.
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods at Blessed Balaam.
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: solve your virus problems switch to linux *ducks*
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xahuia Tech: trying to watch that superheroish movie push =(
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xahuia Tech: freeking free movie stie
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: Did you download the movie Push, Xahuia?
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Push = Jumper 2
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xahuia Tech: The site is like youtube
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xahuia Tech: kinda doesnt download directly on your computer, so I didnt understand
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Is it on Hulu?
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Has anyone used Linux on a laptop and been happy at the same time?
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: That may be what's infecting you, I recommend not going to that site anymore...
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xahuia Tech: fairyshare was the one that gave it to me
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus loves Hulu and Boxee.. :P
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: one can ask the same about windows
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: isn't Boxee some annoying chick on YouTube?
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No, thats Boxxy
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: lol, no that's boxxybabee
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Haha. :P
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Boxee is a media center app
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I wonder if I should look into XMBC, though.
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: XBMC is very nice
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Yeah, mixed letters. :P
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No tv tuner options
T1/r7/2009-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: MythTV is the nicest with TV tuner, though I prefer media center now, jsut for the xbox integration
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: quick question...does anyone know what the keyword to enter in the code editor in mpedit might be if it isn't "code"?
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i found a bug in firefox i think, i hit a search in my little search box and it refreshes the page
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: didn't have the problem before this new release
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ravage Tech: anyone using cmud
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: anyone know if there is a way to search through the mapper DB to see if there are multiple rooms with the same name?
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: wow. windows 7 is going to be cheaper in the uk than in the us. it's aboot time
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: whats an MXP MUD?
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: A MUD that uses MXP in the output-- MXP is HTML-like markup, afaik.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: like tags in Aardwolf?
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: No
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Well, maybe
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: MXP is more about presentation, and Aardwolf's tags are more about data.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: I assume Aardwolf is not using it then
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Nope, not officially
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: <font color=white>nope</font>
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Players can technically use it on channels, though I think it's either illegal or discouraged.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: was that sposed to make the text white?
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: supposed to, yes, and for most of us, did
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: must have been my chat plugin.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: zmud has MXP on by default; most other clients do not.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: can i get you to do that again in one sec please
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: You can look at it again via tech -h too.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: ah great thanks, MUSH supports this?
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: MUSHclient? Sure. Just make sure it's enabled.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: I got it thanks
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: In the World Properties, under Appearance, look at MXP/Pueblo
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik goes, "OK".
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: using zmud: is it possible to use #url to open multiple tabs in one browser, instead of opening multiple instances of the browser ?
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: use firefox. you can tell to open everything in tabs
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: from zmud ?
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no. why?
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: b/c that was the question: what I want to do. I know that ff supports tabbed browsing, as does IE
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: afaik the mud just tells the browser to open the page and it decides how it's going to open it
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: ok, I'll set ff as default and see if it works
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: make sure the setting is on 'open new pages in tabs'
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: nods. I think it's a zmud coding thing. will be a couple mins with answer...
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: give me the command you're using
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: my ff opens everything in tabs with #url command :|
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: oh wow, ff does it in same window. thats dumb
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: thanks Dag
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: silly M$ junk
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: using zmud: can I use a #loop/#forall inside of a #loop/#forall or will 1 %i supercede another ? and if so is there a way around that ?
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: #FORALL @blah {#FORALL @blah2} {do %i %j}}
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: you're the man. is that in the helpfiles somewhere or how did you come across that info ?
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Something I learned over time. It goes in order after that, too... so three forall loops would be i j k.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: It /could/ be documented somewhere, but I forget.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: or just trial and error
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: lag, yeah thats what I figured
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: AHHHH! Another day in the world of technology. Another day of the IT team getting no thanks for hard/ valuable work. Another day of your director overworking you. And most importantly, another day of the administrators buying newer pieces of technology that are not better than the old ones, just newer. Why? Because they're old and sales representatives are clever.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: </rant>
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: you can mud from work, life isn't too bad
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: Yeah, and I am overexaggerating. But I wrote that because I am sure some other people on this MUD could emphasize.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: I just got back into AV/IT support after graduating. I am re-remembering all the challenges now.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: quick question...if i wanted to set up a trigger in the official mushclient to play a sound only whenever something happens, how would i do that?  I put the trigger phrase in and found the sound I wanted but it won't work
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Is the trigger phrase correct?
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: What are you trying to match, and what phrase did you attempt?
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: trying to match quest again and get it to just output a wav file locally when that happens...just to notify me to switch windows when i can quest
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: and "luckily" vista doesn't support the help format that mushclient uses so help is of no use to me
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: exact phrase i used was quest again
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: downlaod winhelp32
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: If you are only matching part of a line, then you need to put an * in the front and back of your phrase.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: *quest again*
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: I use help files perfectly fine under Vista
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: ahh that got it...thanks and checking out the ms website for winhelp32 now
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Yeah, and if you are against downloading winhlp32 for whatever reason, then you can find all the documentation for MUSHclient on its website as well.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: yay and now the help file works
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: thanks agian
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: which client hast the best (and easy) scripting facilities ?
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: CMud
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: mushclient
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: it isn't TF... documentation was definitely an afterthought for TF.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: always a difficult question to answer because it depends on your abilities
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: well tf's scripting language is both the best and one of the easiest.  but it is very badly documented
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: what's tf?
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: tf = tinyfugue
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: tinyfugue
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: oh rite, what language does it use?
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: it uses its own scripting language, although you can also make system calls from it if you really want to
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: as best I can figure its a combo of shell scripting and regex with bits from where they liked things... you can compile python into it too.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: well, i was also reflecting over Tf, thats why i sked on peoples opinion generally speaking
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: though if some kind soul would show me how to access system sound events for trigs I'd be forever in their grace this not being able to chain sound events to things easily is a bit annoying.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: in tf?
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: does anybody have any scripting file for TF , with, f.ex. gags and trigs that change th stas and hp msgs
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: yeah TF, linux newbie, I'm approaching 1 month of ubuntu immersion.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: FatesDagger: and how goes it?
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: for the most part I love it, I'm waiting for abelinc to finish his beta on the spellup script using tags.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: hmm, i run mushclient in wine
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i don't see how tf is better than clients is there something it does that no other client does?
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: the major complaint I have is chaining commands together, I wish I could define the command seperator to be ; vs % and ;
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: i dont know othrer clients so well
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: yeah woulda been better to chain ;;'s together instead of putting a unnatural % in it
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: it is a big step up from tintin plus that zmud based itself on, zmud and mush both have quirks esp under wine.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: sucks that people can't stick to a common programming theme across apps
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: I found mush's help files crashed wine on me. in kubuntu.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: if you disable the popup plugin it should work in wine
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: tf is a big step up from tintin++? How so? (I'm a bit too used to tintin++ though.)
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: i don't have any problems with mush under wine, i set my wine to emulate win98 and it works like a champ
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stigon Tech: u using 98 lol
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: ...
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: intelligent remark of the day
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: hmm? nothing wrong with 98, i think 98SE is still compatible with just about anything
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: plus, mushclient is the only thing I use wine for anyway
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if by everything you mean nothing, then yes
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: I converted everything from zmud to tintin first, ran into undocumented bugs in their docs until I upgraded to the beta 1.99.5 (going on memory) at that point I make semi recursive macros in tintin aka eru X would cast eruption X times... beore then, their loop command errored out on me even by their doc standards.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: uhh you'd be surprised tiger, i'd say if you wanted one op to rule them all that is a windows os, 98se in terms of compatibility wins if you run very old and newer apps
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: nobody said they are running 98..he said he has wine set to emulate Win 98
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I have zero trouble with Mushclient in WINE.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: as much as windows tries, the compatibility modes i've found do not work for a number of things, but we're talking emu 98 on mush
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I don't use it for Aard (CMud in Virtualbox), but I use it for MUXes.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: mush was more figuring out how to call lua scripts right... and for the record I'd rather do python. *shrugs* personal choice I admit but more of a grounding in python.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: if you're good at programming it probably wouldn't be tough to write a cusom gui mud client
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: only gotta add some boxes and stuff to tinyfugue or something, plus some features that're probably written in other stuff
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: With things like Glade it's downright trivial in Linux. That's why there are 300 MUD clients, but 99% of them are awful.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I personally agree, but I don't understand what sort of GUI you'd want to add to a text game client..
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: i preferred python, but two things: 1) it is a pain to get working in wine and 2) lua comes with mushclient
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i'm still trying to figure out how to code in mush soo lol i'm in the dark/amish years still
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: a mapper like zmud is good
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: you can sort of do boxes in tf by a judicious use of screen.  but i just get used to not having boxes
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: for some games anyway
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i've never messed with it but mush does have a mapper afaimt
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I'd rather see someone take an existing client and add a mapper, now that CMud's map format is natively SQLite3...
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: mush's "mapper" just generates speedwalks while you move
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: oh as i said i've never used it, i've seen someone use zmud's mapper i dont' get it...as it re-recorded steps
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: so you get the most screwed up map ever lol
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I'd like to add a mapper module to Mushclient, but I'm not sure that's not a little advanced to be doing in Lua.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i will note he has 0 mud experience and i wasn't interfering as it was hilarious to watch
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i tried calibrating some mappers from some clients to a mud i played, but ended up gettin myself killed using it
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: i think mappers are overrated :) (only because I have never found one I liked)
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: zmud's you can like click on a box of a room and it'll open doors and stuff
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i have a mapper prog but i'd have to fire it up and input my map to it
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: I do not think you are tied to usiong lua w/ mush
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranald Tech: yeah, ive got about 70% of the mud in zmud/cmud's mapper. it has its issues, but is probably one of the better ones.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i don't know the limitations of lua, esp in mush, i don't see how it isn't possible
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: using*
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: mush did not start out with lua support iirc
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: nope you can use like 7 diff langs in mush
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: You're going to have to distribute libraries that aren't included (ie: SQLite3, wxLua...)
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it's possible, the hard part is getting all the triggers right
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: zmud's mapper vastly outperforms even the custom ones I've seen used
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Which is impressive, given what a pile of crap it is.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: who needs mappers, that' is what memory is for :P
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ode nods at Obyron.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: a gnu'd or open source version of zmud would be popular i think
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stigon Tech: does vista ultimate come with a anti virus software
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: not a copy cat but written from scratch using concepts
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no, stigon, they're not allowed
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stigon Tech: what u mean not allowed
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Like that fun typo that's been in the helpfiles for like 6 years. (%portalenabled() should be %portalenable())
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: its the opposite of allowed
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: haha i got a comic to write vista + AV
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: every time MS try and bundle a bit of software with their OS, your government whines at them
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stigon Tech: no seriously
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: sry random idea for my comics
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stigon Tech: should i buy nortan antivirus software
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i don't quite get the purpose of AV, it's like insurance companies are behind it
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: no
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: NOOOOO OH MY GOD NO
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Unlike the EU, who love Microsoft. Oh wait.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stigon Tech: y not
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: but I also dont believe you should be allowed to use a computer at all
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: 90% of what Microserf bundles with itself is third rate, I'd rather pay someone with a clue to code something that actually works.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: norton hasn't changed like the .exe of their AV in 20 years
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Profoundly Odd Tech: Google AVG and download it. Its free. its decent.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: wow, that was the fastest changing of topic in tech I have ever seen :)
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: meh i hate avg too, but it is free
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: you'd probably get the best microsoft firewall and security policy by figuring out the tools included with the os
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: No one would want to use a GPLed version of Zmud. They'd rather use a real client with ZMud's mapper. :P
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: but there's alot of different stuff to consider
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stigon Tech: well im about to by nortan
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i just use a hardwall and overzealous security settings on my net
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: norton is a bit awful
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: I would Oby, but then again I never had the patience to figure out that peice of junk.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Norton is a steaming pile, but it's your hardware.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stigon Tech: then what should i buy Avast
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: mcafee > norton imo
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: if you are interested in comparisons, check this page ouy http://www.av-comparatives.org/
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Same crap, different pile.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: avast is awful
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: mcaffee works alright for me
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i wouldn't say it's exactly crap, i've had reasonable experiences with mcafee
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: catches browser exploits and stuff like that
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: kapernsky is alright, though it does some strange things... like messing with WoW :P
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: yeah i like it's script detection, and it's got an AV
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Install Firefox with NoScript, and don't do anything stupid. Antivirus software is completely unnecessary if you have a clue.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: not counting the ones it might not have caught, but it's still good to see it stops some of them
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I like Avira Antivir :)
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: mcafee's effective, but it's flaky as shit
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stigon Tech: Thats bull avast is cool it scans my pc files which is like 1mill something files in less than 5 minutes
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: avast is shit
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: The fact that any browser with scripting capabilities is set up to run every single script by default is stupid. NoScript blacklists all javascript, etc., and you enable it selectively on sites you trust.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it slows pc's to a crawl and lets just about anything through
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: its really hard to say BLAHBLAH is the best since no product is top dog in every test or category
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: yeah, but there's alot of fancy user interfaces on sites and some sits that require them
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: mcafee ended up hosing my 98SE system, when I finally went in and cleaned it out I found 4 instances of it loading itself... 3 upgraded versions and the current.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Then enable the ones you trust.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: using plain html and stuff a browser's pretty secure, it's the extra stuff they add on
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: yeah AV is argument material, norton is headaches i'll tell you that...if you ever plan on getting rid of norton you'll have a huge headache
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stigon Tech: i think im gona go for Avira coz i like the box it come's in
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: you're far better off setting up your own prevention as kheft is saying
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: The only reason to install antivirus software is if you're upset that your cmoputer boots to a useable state in less than 10 minutes. ;)
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: norton is annoying, bought it and lasted 3 months before I wiped the system to get rid of it... its self updater had broken 5 times in that time frame.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: heh, i've had mcafee loaded and not loaded on this rig and it doesn't make a difference
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Or if you're not already using Linux. O:)
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: well i did run clamav on windows for a while
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: yeah that's how mine went fates, norton blew up during an update and just screwed everything over
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: virus scanning caused some crashes in fps games, live scanning, but it's relatively a small amount
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: I personally wont touch any of the big named boxed solutions
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stigon Tech: well i defeated a pc worm in less than 2 minutes so a  antivirus is useless
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i haven't had any type of malicious software on my comp in over 4 years now
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: same here...and I surf a LOT of porn
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: How to get a virus on Linux:  1) Open xterm.  2) wget nastysite.com/virus 3) sudo chmod +x virus 4) sudo ./virus ...
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: ditto fed :D haha
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: either that or downloading kernel patches from non-official sites
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: and other apps
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: turning off JS alone protects you from so much crap its not funny
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stigon Tech: strange how most porn sites are the ones with the virus
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: all my AV finds ever is false positives and spybot says i changed security settings lol
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Which is why modern distros only include trusted repositories, and anything else has to be added manually.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: Oby is 100% right, Firefox with intelligent browsing and a real firewall will save you in like 99% of the time.  I ran no virus scanner for years with zonealarm and thinking before I clicked with no problems.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: zonealarm is pretty strong
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: The down side of that is people bitching because they can't run MUSHclient using the crufty old version of WINE that's the default into the supported repo.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: when I do feel its time to rin a scan, I usually run Housecall from trendmicro
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: run*
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: I'd do it now but malware for Doze is way too high.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stigon Tech: well i just bought myself a avast and left the box on the floor i wonder who is gona pick it up
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ie, windows firewall, and hardware firewall keeps you safe too
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: No amount of antivirus is going to save you if you're like my girlfriend's dad, who thinks that all of those great offers he sees on movie download sites are really legitimate offers to help him. :P
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus carries portable antiviruses on his USB drive.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: oh this wasn't mentioned but your ISP may offer free AV for you on their site
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: as do i charn :D bootable disks are fun, i can clean out anything pretty much
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: like I said Oby, INTELLIGENT browsing habits...
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I do some tech work occasionally, and I find it handy to have a few tools on the drive, including a bootable OS, whether it's Linux, XP, or Vista.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: most of the stuff i see at work that's infected also has norton or mcafee or avg installed, and they never -ever- pick stuff up
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Nod. :P
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: latest is a stupid bit of adware called Personal Antivirus
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods at Tigernuts.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: vundo tiger?
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: which is ridiculously easy to remove, but it, and it's variants are never detected
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: at this point and time if I could turn back time I'd put my two stepdaughters laptops on boot from CD and run live Linux disks... corrupt the system... I dare you.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: variant, ode
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stigon Tech: tigernuts lol strange name
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: it installs a fake virus on your system and tries to sell you their product haha
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yep
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Was at my mother-in-law's office (she's a doctor). I plugged my usb drive that had the antivirus on it (had a document there I needed to print up) and it detected a virus almost immediately. *shrug*
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: or a rootkit that makes you think you've got viruses then tries to flog you something
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i had one where it made the desktop background hte hazmat symbol and made it an active desktop so you click it and your browser is hijacked
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nogs
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Yeah, if you're willing to use a thumb drive for personal storage, it doesn't get any better than LiveCDs. Hose your system? Reboot.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: saw that
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: and hardware firewalls are only as good as the user on the other side... idiots are nothing if not creative.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: its quite frightening in this day and age, even people who use computers on a daily basis are flat out retarded in even basic prevention
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: that was a ahem it wasn't fun to remove
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: even on facebook and plentyoffish now they got these fake confirmation boxes, if you click no something else pops up
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: those things suck, gotta click ok instead of x or cancel
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: on the plus side, the idiots keep many people in business
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stigon Tech: is the only difference between light scribe and a normal dvd writer is the picture u can print on a cd
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: yep
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: stickers work too
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: almost everyone *thinks* that Doze protects them out of the box, you saw the Vista adds, it watches over you :P Right.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: vista is the most annoying OS i've ever seen, i'll use lotus ONE TWO THREE!!!! before i use that
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: it has some nice features though
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: actually mac's annoys me more
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stigon Tech: stupid me pade R400 extra for a damn light scribe
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: like hovering over a minimized window and seeing a mini-pic of it
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: The one thing I'll say about that is that I think it's amusing that all the anti-MS fanboys cry about UAC when a properly configured Linux box works the exact same way (inputting your password for sudo, to change system config, etc.)
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stigon Tech: Vista Ultimate is the best u can find
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: lotus 123 isn't an operating system
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Compiz has that, and so does Vista anyway.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: ultimate's just vista 32 and 64 in one isn't it?
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Well, to be fair, UAC is a little bit more annoying.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no, kheftiu
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: no khef
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: The difference is that Vista keeps asking for it whereas something like Ubuntu realizes you just entered it, and it probably doesn't need to ask again for a little while.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i bought premium and they had an offer to spend like 8 bucks for the 64 bit dvd
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i know tiger i was getting excited and i love the title of their office software
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I use Compiz Fusion and I have all that too.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: vista and ubuntu ask permission roughly about the same number of times
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: agreed the sudo stuff *shrugs* but if sudo pops up when I'm visiting a website rather than in synapic or system update etc. I know there is a major problem :P
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: yeah
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: That is a pretty significant difference imo. But otherwise it's quite similar, I agree.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: sudo is infinitely better than su, which i used to use on mandrake
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: just browse through a hostile user account, lol
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: that's how i set mine up usually, root, trusted user, and untrusted
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: xp is so much cleaner and since i run lots of old software, vista is not my bag
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Obyron has come a long way from his days when he first tried Slackware, running xfree86 as root.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: cleaner in that i don't need stupid requirements to run the basic OS
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: I have not played with 7 yet, have any of you?
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: zomg nerds
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: my major complaint these days with linux is support not virus etc. I'm more annoyed at not being able to stream shows from ABC or Fox than some script kiddie trying to root me.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I was in the open beta. It's okay.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: like i remember when everyone went nuts to upgrade RAM for the big move from 95 to 98 and 98/2000/me to xp 
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Heh, not really, but this article on Singularity looks interesting.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: yeah, flash sucks to install
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Yeah, the number one knock on Linux for me is that Flash support still sucks.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i don't think they even automated that yet
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: xine's got a built in browser movie player though
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: happens with every oS, Ode
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Why would you need more RAM just to do pretty much the same things?
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stigon Tech: anyone got some cheat codes for devil may cry 4
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stigon Tech: on pc
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dizzyworm Tech: dont cheat!
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: yeah vista was a larger jump tho, and i don't like an OS that looks like a mac...i dont' want fancy icons...i'd just like win95 looks   i want graphics when i run something not the OS
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: gametalk.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: because new technologies like .NET do things in stupid ways and include junk you don't need
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Obyron - it was fairly painless for me in Ubuntu - but Debian was a little more involved.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: No no, it's easy to add, but the support sucks.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Watch a flash video in full screen and you'll see what I mean.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Excuse the errant punctuation.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: yeah, i remember windows 95 dos games, big black screen, type in game name, full graphics
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: lol I had *zero* probs with it, flash in ubuntu only seems to be a problem in 64bit these days... If you are running pre 9.04 go to the forums.ubuntu.com and read the sticky post in forums under multimedia, 2 apt-gets and its fixed.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: probably alots less processor intensive
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: gotta love those tandy 400 graphics :P
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dizzyworm Tech: google.. r king
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dizzyworm Tech: oops
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: You don't even need Automatix to install it anymore. You can do it straight from synaptic.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stigon Tech: gogle.com
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: It's just that Flash for Linux sucks because Adobe hates you.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Have been doing so pretty regularly... do you mean the flicker?
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Nod.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Ah, right.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: optimum for win95 was 32mb, 98 was 128mb, XP was 1gb, Vista is 4Gb
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: multiples of 4 each time
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: 128 x 4 != 1024
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: (minimum)
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: bullshit :p boost the first 2 by x4 to get functional systems.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Mathfail.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: 128mb was mostly unavailable for win95 boxes
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: or more if you actually use them for memory intensive apps. Paintshop and more than 3 images open made 95 run like a pig on stilts... Cachemem expanded the memory limits quite a bit past microserfs short sightedness.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: No one should need more than 640k...
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien tickles Obyron.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: obyron is right, just bad programming for the most part
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Nah, that's a Gates quote. :P If it's cheap we may as well use it all.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: they landed on the moon with less computing power then is in some hand held calcs I believe
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: memory increases has supported more sloppy programming *nods* Ansi C produces a lot tighter code than C++ :P
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: ASM is tighter than C, but I'll leave actually using it to someone who doesn't value their sanity.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Somebody call?
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: only need look at the stat creep on xp
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: The advent of higher level languages can only be described as a good thing.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Stat creep?
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: but I'd rather see more friendly languages than dealing with ASM, yes I can do that on 6502, 680x0 and most vax system *shrugs* it is just a mess to update.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: too bad that one fellow didn't follow through with his ASM OS.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: when it came out, it was mostly being run on 128 or 256mb ram
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I think life is a lot better without having to write garbage collection code.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: barely runs at all on less than 512 now
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Oh, that.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: windows has improved, but there is still a LOT of legacy crap in it that bloats its size.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I took my girlfriend to the dentist the other day. Couldn't help but notice that their patient tracking software is a DOS app that they're running on an XP machine. Way too much crap like that still out there.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Well, no one rewrote it for them?
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: yeah I hear you, most of the better apps for my industry are circa 1980s...
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I'm saying that's why Windows still has the legacy crap. It has to for businesses.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: supermarket i worked at while at uni was using a stock database system written in 1970
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: though we run DosBox for them, it does not crash.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Nod, software emu for stuff that old is fine.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Less system intensive than emulating an NES game. :P
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: its also self preservation. If windows did not support old apps and whatnot, it would provide a business with a stong reason to evaluate alternatives. As is, they can more or less say...stick with us
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Unfortunately there's hardware like that too, and it's kind of hard to emulate that.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: Yeah, it is strange these days you can run emulations for CPUs that are not in production that run faster... like the Amiga UAE.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: When the must-have machine for your business hooks up to a serial port... :P
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Like, oh, the 15,000 dollar laser engraver I had when I was running my business a couple of years ago. :P
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: I still have a modem, for dealing with Telus in remote locations :P
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: though I hope I've finally cured my old company of transmitting all GPS data to Calgary for processing :P
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: if not I bet I'll get faster turnarround massaging the data to RINEX standard and submitting it to gov't sites for free processing :P
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: i would return to the discussion about clients. has anyone here got some trigs for disolaying hp, stats and mobs health written for TF
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger me, scara ;-)
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I'd return to that conversation too. Someone write a good mapper into a Linux client that'll import Zugg's maps and save me the trouble. :)
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: and could i get a copy
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: excellent idea oby
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: What's Zugg's mapper like?
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: imo its awful, but the best of the worst.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm debating on doing some integrating of tf and tk
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Format wise? ZMud maps are ADODB and CMud maps are SQLite3.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: whats tk
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: graphical portion of the tcl language
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: so its linage is still tied to zmuds borland pascal etc?
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: yep
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Yep, it's written in Delphi, aka Visual Pascal.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: OK, if you got some trigs and gags for tech i would really apprciate a copy i woudnt want to do the work myself ==
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: He never bothered to learn a real language.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: scara, as I said, finger me
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Obyron: so it just needs to be able to read data stored in ADODBs and convert them to, say, text files? CSV?
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: but it's less the core part of ZMud/CMud and more the third-party controls he uses
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Which apparently doesn't interfere with the ability to resell us something we already paid for in order to buy another gold-plated ferrari. :P
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: trurien, that part's easy...it's the part about understanding them that is more complicated ;-)
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Converting the maps is the easy part. It's drawing them that I'm not sure how tod o.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Hm, understanding how?
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: how so Ob?
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: And Abe is out to lunch on that one. The SQLite versions at least aren't complicated at all. I'm sure the ADO ones aren't either, but I've never bothered.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: There's some metadata that's stored that I'm not sure what he's doing with, but the actual map data is simple.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oby, not complicated, and you already have full db access to them...it's what you do with the info that must be worked out
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: borland pascal was a nice training language, right up until OOP was added to it, at that point *shrugs* C++ does that better imo, just managed to make BP unreadable... I know 4 people that can make delphi jump thru loops, pity since they are so niche marketed with it.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Abe: I have no idea what you just said, but I'm going to nod and smile since I think I already said it. :P
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien snickers with Obyron about their shared secret.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: The part that's work is actually drawing the map on the screen in a way that you can interact with it.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, you said it right after I did :P
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Well, I'm just asking because I never bothered to see it.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: And all the crap you need to add to make a new map.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Interact, hm.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: abelinc you men abe that there is the stuff i talked about on url mentioned in finger
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: huh scara?
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: The strange thing is 99% of seismic data collection software is still written in delphi or precursors since nobody else understands the math behind it enough to rewrite and the people writing the C++ GPS stuff are not willing to learn the math.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: abe, i dont see anything else in your fingerprint why i ought to finger you
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you asked about mapping hp gauge stuff in tinyfugue for you & MOB...that's what the "Fight Status Graph" listed on that page is
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: well i aint too stupid after all, when something is explained to mee three times i might understand
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: And that's what really matters.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, Oby explains things over & over to me all the time :-)
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: That has nothing to do with you not understanding, I just like to hear myself talk.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: i go there right now, thx, it was nice to chat a bit, sometimes it can be very useful
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: bye
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: abe does the same to me when I run into the TF learning curve, it is as much a function of how'd he come up with that as trying to flail my way thru the help files to see why it works.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: his spellup script is like an ode to spaghetti
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I just type "spellup" :P
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's why you love it ;-)
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: I'm waiting for the next version... for tag support... :P
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: The most spaghetti spellup script I've ever seen was the one DemonSpawn had for ZMud forever ago. It elevated incomprehensibility to an art form (in addition to being a great spellup script).
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: same here obyron
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i don't use a script though, just a giant alias
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: then type in failed casts as they hapepn
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I just type spellup over and over until they're all done.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: abe, are you still there
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: I have two world files in MUSH, on one Nick's map miniwindow works and on the other it doesn't. What world settings could cause this?
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: same chcaracter?
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: yeah
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: check tags settings, if not
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: I'll go see what tags says on the world that works
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: ok I found something odd
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: on the tags output on the MAP line the 'YES' is not lined up with the others on the world the map doesn't work. It lines up on the world where it does.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: here's what I mean
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: INV           Display tags when viewing own inventory: {inventory/}   NO 
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: It's just your client :P
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: MAP           Display tags around map:              YES
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: MAPEXITS      Adds room exits within maptags                          YES
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: It's because your client is gagging <Mapstart (>) and <Mapend (>) (without spaces and parentheses).
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: must be client but what the heck sould do that? Chat plugin are the only triggers installed.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he knows it's his client, that's what he's looking to fix :P
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: MXP/handling of html tags.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: DANM yes that'll be it!
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: thanks guys :)
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Quite welcome.
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Are there alt codes for numbers in superscript?
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: The command to change a room on the zmud map is #path num right?
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: What do you want to change?
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: So that when I run into for example Underdark, it puts my zmud-map thingie at the first room in the area?
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Ah, I thought you meant changing one of the room's properties. #TEL
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Oh! That's right :)
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Thank you
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Send me a tell please Obyron :)
T1/r7/2009-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i have a server running apache 2.whatever, cerberus for ftp, what can i use to handle my own email?
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: Anybody have experience with the HTC Touch Pro / Fuze?
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sieral Tech: Looking for some help with a displaying information in a DB type variable in cmud, anyone familiar with it?
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: anyone on here familiar with awk?  Specifically awk, not gawk.  I am trying to switch a date in a list to epoch time, and I cannot get this to work:  "date -d " $3 " +%s"
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: bah... cannot get this to work:  "date -d " $3 " +%s" | getline date
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: have you tried   truss date 2>&1 | grep ^time | awk -F"= " '(print $2'
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: This is in the middle of a script, not as a one liner.
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: oh, well..it's pretty much the same thing in a script isn't it? just tweak it to fit..
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I had to do enough work trying to get the date in an array of usernames.  I can't interrupt the stream for that, could I?
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: I don't know what you're doing, but it seems you're making it harder than it needs to be..
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: need a little bit of help with mushclient pretty hard one too, anyone here that uses mushclient?
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I am trying to parse out user names and date of password changes out of a record output and force password changes on people who have not changed them in a certain amount of time.  Yay getting around bugs.
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: and what's the mushclient questions?
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: any1 here who is familiar with tf, especially with installing abes features for aardwolf?
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: is there anybody who has configure TF colors for Aardmud
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vondal Tech: Anybody ever play Aard from a blackberry?
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: no, thats sounds horrible
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vondal Tech: hahaha yeah probably :D
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vondal Tech: but sometimes I hear people say they are playing from their phones
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the best way to play Aard from phones is to use a CLI client like tf or tt++
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and even then it sucks
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then use the phone to telnet/ssh into a computer running the client, so you have access to your full MUDding environment, regardless of the computer/phone you're sitting at
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i use it sometimes for chat/notes, but you can't actually "play"
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it may suck, but it's free QPs where you otherwise would get none
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vondal Tech: I see. thanks =]
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: I switched to mushclient from zmud and now when I use run command the resulting room name list (of rooms running through) has blank lines in it.  Did it before?  Seems to be different.
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: gag/sub differences, maybe?
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: I wasn't gagging anything in zmud I don't think, no biggey just wondering if a toggle like compact or something changed.
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: prolly using tags and gagging them. dunno if it has a debug mode, could see it for yourself
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranald Tech: what are you trying to do?
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: it is automap and coordinates for big map.  I wasn't using either in zmud
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: is there a way to write an alias that refers to what an variable contais, f.ex. runto current, where the 'current'- variable is defined as the area you usually run to, ex. 2Insanitaria". i have the nush-client
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: yes use @myvar to call the variable
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: and check Expand Variables when you make your alias
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: ok
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: is there a way to check hp and perform an action only if hp > 300, for ex
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure, the stats detector plugin already checks HP & announces it to all the other plugins
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: how do you then write a trigger that begins with some condition like:  "do if hp > 500" - (else runto recall).
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: why not just use wimpy?
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: because wimpy is messed up if the trig is used thebn
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: its best to use wimpy when you stack commands
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: ???
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: any1 here that has configured TF for aardmud?
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir points at you.  How rude! 
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: . o O (  ) Habasi points, indicating Bad angel Ghaan.
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir points excitedly at . o O (  ) Habasi!
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: do you got some funtining setting for tf
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: color settingd even
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: need some help with mushclient anyone?
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: what's up
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: really, i could use some help with setting up the colors for TF / Aardwolf, any1 can gimme a hint
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you type "color", that'll turn on colors...tf already supports the colors with no settings needed
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: there is a good wepsite for that cant remember the adress though ?!
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can use "colorset" to change what color different channels use
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: colorset status shows what your current settings are for all types of info
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: I will pay 1 tp to the person that can help me with mushclient, give me a tell if you are intressted
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: why dont you just ask the qestion
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: question*
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: he's trying to write a bot
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: lol?
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: oic
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: might as well give away all your tps before you get nuked :-p
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: i havent tried colorset, will do, I btw. got the stat-trigs, and will as soon as i get the basics to work start my own configurations. 
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: Gregor I am afraid thats likely the case, I cant imagine why else anyone would be unwilling to ask a question openly
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: okay i just ask it
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: about time :P
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: i don't think it's botting thought
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: judge for yourself *shrug*
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: if i got a varible that changes target when i come into a room
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: am i wrong or right?
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Changes target when you come into a room?
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: You can have any variable you like, I was merely wondering what exactly you were going to do with it...
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: So you want it to create a list of targets when you enter a room, or what?
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: exactly obyron
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: that's legal right?
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: By itself...
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: again, on its face its legal...just be careful how you use it
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Going to need a mob db to match long descs.
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: db?
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: database :-p
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Yeah, so that you can see "A fuzzy bunny munches on a blade of grass." and you can say, okay, that mob's keywords are 'fuzzy bunny cuteness'
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: he probably uses 'con all' which is a little better than the long description
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: con all is useful for adding priority as well
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Anyone with a clue will assume you're a bot if you're running around doing con all every time you move. You'll look like Slay.
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ser Gregor snickers softly.
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: I use scan here when I don't have longs desc trigs. you should bot test me
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: a statement like  TotalBattleSec = @BattleSec + (@BattleMin * 60), would this reset the TotalBattleSec each time it's called to value of the formula on the right side, or would it continue to add to the current total of TotalBattleSec
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dfury is NOT using a bot, merely a very handy *beep* script!
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: cmud scripting
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: anyone got a clue howto say "if" with the mushclient ?
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: It'd reset it. You should do TotalBattlesec = @TotalBattlesec +...
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: Just be aware it is getting into grey area, as I heard from one exclannie that is now banned, "A manual bot is still a bot."
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I'm not saying you're botting, I'm saying it'd look that way. Do you really want that kind of attention?
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: in lua if <cond>: <statements> else: <statements>
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: I want it to reset, and thats what I thought it would do, but for some reason it seems to add time on occasions when it shouldn't be.
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Asley freaks out, screaming "Oh My Bot!"
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ser Gregor nods at Asley.
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (R) That Asley is huge! . o O (  ) Habasibot quickly backstabs her!
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ser Gregor throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: how then to write a if-bloch when you want a trig alias stop functoning every second time
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, I'd used if condition then do, not if condition: do
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: scara, use a "state" variable
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when the trig fires, have it check to see if the variable is 1 or 0...if it's 1, set the variable to 0 and do the action...if it's already 0, then set it to 1 but do NOT do the action
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then it will be doing the action every other time it fires
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can also have it set a timer that resets the variable
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so it won't fire more than once every 5 seconds or whatever
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: in tf it woul be easy, just define a variable first, then make the trig and have th trig set the variable to set the variable. Next time the trig sees that the variable is  1 so it simply sets it and quits. But what is syntax for this in mushclient?
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if variable==0 then variable = 1
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: how woould you then write the following (i had it before my speedwalks to ennsure that i had brif mode off in another mud  /IF (brief == 1)%
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: how woould you then write the following (i had it before my speedwalks to ennsure that i had brif mode off in another mud  /IF (brief == 1)%
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: /IF (brief == 1)%
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: ...
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: this brappy client
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: it will not allow me to send to a channel (prolly) because of the semicolon that was in my text
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: sorry for the spalike
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: what command did you suggest for tf. i am using it right now
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: semi colons in TF don't matter try /sub off before entering.
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: otherwise Tf interprets your %; as command breaks.
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: scara, game -> configure -> commands...uncheck command stacking
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: scara is sitting at mushclient, desribing tf syntax, not sitting at tf ;-)
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: Ah, didn't catch the whole thing, my apologies.
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: your wrong abe i *WAS* using mushclient, but is not now. Well, here is one of my colorproblems - the tech channel i hardly visibly on the screeen since it is light and my screen is white. Howto modify it to darker? 
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: help colorset
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: have you tried running xterm -bg black -fg darkgrey
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although in tf, you shouldn't have /if (something)%; anyway...the %; isn't needed...commands after if conditionals should be immediately following the expression
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: or better still, why dont you send your files to me - i can later modify them so to suit me?
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're using tf, then it sending the break makes no sense given the syntax that went through
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: i used mushclient when i send that string
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but yeah, I'd agree with fates, the best solution is to make your terminal window light text on dark background
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then don't tell me I was wrong...that's what I said :P
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i've always stuck with black bg and white text for terminals, green text is alright too
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your issue with sending it was because you were using mush to send it, which is what I said, and I gave you the command to let you send it in mush
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: read what i said 
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: transparent vterms can play tricks on the eyes
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I did read what you said...what you said was incorrect as of the lines of text we were discussing
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: whar command repeats the last line written, do you remember?
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: ! ?
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: that's for the mud though
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: whar command repeats the last line written, do you remember?
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: i have speedwalks stored in avariable but sometiems you have to open doors or enter a portal to get from point A to point B. The command line can't interpret the string as a command so it won't execute properly. For example how can I make it so I can type my alias and the destination and be able to execute any misc. data. Keep in mind some speedwalks won't need this. RIght now I have it where i type my alias and then the name of my area(I.E. srun AM). This executes the alias to run to art of melody. I have an extra statement that tells it to dance when it gets to the end so it can get in the area.
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Are you generating speedwalks on the fly from your mapper, or are they static data that you've entered?
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: mapper
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: i then use my other alias to add it to the variable
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: In your mapper config, under "Speedwalking" check "Add door commands to saved paths"
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: i have to then add an if statement that makes it execute aditional commands
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: With that checked, using %pathfrom or %walk or whatever will include door commands.
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: already has that
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: well hold on.. I have been delteting that stuff from the generated swalk
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I won't tell anyone. :P
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: no not gonna work because the command sends the run command and then variable
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: so it is trying to run the whole variable which includes any open door commands or socials
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: so i get an invalid direction
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Then you need to write a better function to translate your paths into MUD commands.
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Presumably you're getting something like ".wues11ene2d2n2dw2nw;.(ent c)" as output.
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: You need to come up with something using %replace to turn that into output the MUD will accept.
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: ah
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: so like split the strings at the periods, replace strlen(string1)-1 with a null, and move ent c into another string from a parser
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Mine is...
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: silly question...if you're using z/cmud, and are using its mapper...why do you have srun speedwalks in variables instead of properly using its mapper?
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: %switch(%ends(%replace( %replace(%replace( %pathfrom(18036,%1), ., "run "), ")", ");run "), "run (", ".("),";run "),%replace(%leftback(%replace( %replace(%replace( %pathfrom(18036,%1), ., "run "), ")", ");run "), "run (", ".("),5),";run ;.", ";."),%eval(%ends(%replace( %replace(%replace( %pathfrom(18036,%1), ., "run "), ")", ");run "), "run (", ".("),";run ") = 0),%replace(%replace( %replace(%replace( %pathfrom(18036,%1), ., "run "), ")", ");run "), "run (", ".("),";run ;.", ";."))      where 18036 is the room ID for recall in my map.
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trashbat! Anipopo pukes.
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: That's too simple.
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Yeah, it kinda makes my heart yearn for LISP. :)
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and lithp
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Because moving your hand to use the mouse and then flip through areas is slow.
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I can just type, say, "fr common room" to find all rooms containing that string mudwide, and then type "go" and it'll pop through a stack and go to them one at a time.
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: isn't there a function to tell z/cmud to go to a named room?
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: It automatically generates SWs on the fly so that no matter how areas change, as long as your map and portals are up to date, you're always getting the most efficient path.
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: No.
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: must be, since you can click on a map room and it goes
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: You have to write all that stuff yourself.
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: just gets translated on the mouse event
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: yes, you can click on a room and it'll go. No CLI equivalent of that.
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: only thing you need t owatch out for is the level of your protal
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: but you can program a script for that as well 
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Yeah, you write a script for that. :P
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: dunno how to do that yet 
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: It's a pain in the ass. :P
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: i know the concept but have not tried it yet
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: change the cost of the portal based on your level
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Especially since CMUD 3.10a is bugged, and trying to add a portal in the dialog causes an Access Violation and crashes to desktop. :)
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: yea but when you tier you gotta change those values unless you program it to subtract 10 every tier
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 2 variables...level and effective.level
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: you can use level from your statmon as the variable
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: You tier so rarely that it's easy to set that manually. Like I'd type setportal tier 1, and it does everything else for me.
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: There is no way to set portal cost via script. You have to do it by hand.
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: But there's a function to enable or disable portals.
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: yea i have to have mine disabled sometimes
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Asley freaks out, screaming "Oh My Bot!"
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ser Gregor throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I doubt we'll ever get a way to set cost via script, seeing as how he's had the %portalenable function typoed as %portalenabled in the help files since at least 6 years ago, and he's never bothered to fix it no matter how often it's pointed out.
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: So every person who takes it upon themselves to write map scripts has to discover that bit of esoteric knowledge for themselves. It's like a rite of passage
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Suffice it to say that the joy of finally getting one of Zugg's products to work the way you want it to is quickly overcome by the loathing inherent in using it to actually do anything interesting for more than 10 minutes.
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: lmao
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: And yeah, I'm bitter. I've been on this treadmill for like a decade now. :P
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: The sad part is that it's just "good enough" that no one has bothered to make anything better, even though any decent product that also included a mapper would probably put him out of business.
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: And now he's stalling CMud development to work on his SSH client, that is basically CMud with all the mud-related stuff stripped out of it, which in the end is like a version of PuTTY that requires 160MB of RAM to run.
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: It boggles the mind
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, I thought cmud pro or whatever was just cmud with ssh capabilities
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Just to cap off this rant, I have to ask: How many people out there have said to themselves, "I like PuTTY, but it'd really be awesome if it were 10 times as bloated, and rewritten in Pascal"
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Pretty much, yeah. But he's also writing something called TeSSH that's CMud without the Mud part.
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's trying to compete with secureCRT & them now?
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: No clue, but he thinks it's going to be the cash cow that'll help to subsidize his niche product.
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: And hey, he's probably right. I just think it's funny that we've been paying his bills for how many years now, but we have to wait for him to finish his SSH client before he'll fix the bugs he introduced in 3.10a, which managed to break things that were already working without actually adding new features. :P
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: can't find a gallery plugin for wp. all i need is to generate a gallery in a post from a folder of images on another location in the server. any recommendations?
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: But there's no rush right? Seeing as how our license is time-limited now, he can just wait for it to run out and we'll all buy up again.
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I don't know of any companies that are paying for ssh clients anymore, putty is plenty good enough for enterprise
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Forgive me for ranting. You have to take it out somewhere when everyone on the official forums are just there to kiss his ass. :P
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, ranting is one of the official uses for tech :-)
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I need to just settle down and do what rational, normal people do: put on Lady Gaga and do the dishes. ;)
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: more like Papa Gaga
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: But yeah, I have to wonder if there's ANY testing at all that goes on. Like when 3.10 first came out, typing "#FIND" would crash to desktop. :P
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: No wait, I think that still does CTD.
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: There was something else that was important enough that he did a pointfix to 3.10a.
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Because I ended up having to write a scripted version of #FIND that would use the room command to find DB matches.
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: ...which is actually more accurate than the hardcoded version, because #FIND doesn't use exits. :P
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I've got a problem with tv-out
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: My tv can support 1080i
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: And I've selected 1920x1080 and 30hz interlaced in the settings
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: But the desctop is bigger than the tv?
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: desktop
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: And I can't resize the desktop in any way :S
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sophus Tech: alright i feel like i have to ask this every time it happens but i always forget... how do i turn off the weird crap in front of channels and my prompt like {chan ch=auction}?
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Tags off
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Read help tags :)
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sophus Tech: thanks so much
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranald Tech: im trying to figure out a way for the zmud/cmud mapper to figure out exactly where I am, most likely by using the coord command. any ideas?
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: so, in cmud, if you have two triggers set to the same pattern, do they both fire, or just the first one encountered?
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: both, but it's kinda pointless
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranald Tech: not really, if you have the triggers in different classes for different purposes. disabling triggers on certain events, etc. but same time, yeah
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: it's just an older way of doing things, Myrkul.  With CMud, you could just use events instead of multiple triggers
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can just set 2 actions for the one trigger, and have conditionals for whether one or both actions are performed
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: what's the idle timeout length?
T1/r7/2009-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: not positive but it is at least 30 minutes
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cilice Tech: any advice on a client for mac users?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: tintin++
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xenakis Tech: I'm using tintin from the terminal on os x
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampi Tech: can i practise all m spells at once?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cilice Tech: i noticed a lot of neat screenshots on the website, will i be able to view all that as well?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: what website?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cilice Tech: the aardwolf website
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: yeah, if you use their dedicated client
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cilice Tech: but is that available for a mac?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: doubt it. check the website..
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: anyone know how to set the command window background colour in MUSH?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: I mean the window background colour.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampChick Tech: um can i ask questions that have nothin to do wit aard but wit comps
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DarkSlayer Zeerus Tech: yep
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: that's what tech is for
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: yes this is the place
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Asley screams out, "Oh My God!"
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: oops
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Asley freaks out, screaming "Oh My Bot!"
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampChick Tech: cool, i have windows vista and my webcam on my comp wont work and neither will my internet and idk what the problem its not the connection cuz im one here but it wont even open the internet window
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: so it's your browser you're having issues with?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: me have same problem
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: *cough*get linux*cough*
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Drtoki nods at Ageha.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: but honestly check on how to fix the admin loggin thingy vista has that tries to mimic root buts fails
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampChick Tech: idk but it just started today 
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampChick Tech: im worried its bad
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: what does vista call the root thing? uac or something
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: did vista update recently?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: like today
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampChick Tech: no idea but im so lost ive done adaware checks for viruse, it updates every day
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: since two peeps are having probs
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: i bet its vista
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: just being crap
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: vista is the new me
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: adaware checks for adware, not viruses..
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampChick Tech: dam
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampChick Tech: damn
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: go to housecall.trendmicro.com
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: run that
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampChick Tech: so what do i do?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampChick Tech: i cant get on internet
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Might try and uninstall the most recent updates, particularly ones to IE...
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: that will check for viruses malware grey ware ad ware 
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampChick Tech: i just updated ie today once it stopped workin
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: safe mode?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: does vist have safe mode?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: try safe mode
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: then we can determine if its a program running stoppign it or a system file issue
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: try running firefox? chrome?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: housecall site wont work if he cant get his browser open
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: well he said its ie
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampChick Tech: it says "a problem has caused it to stop working properly n will notify when there is a solution
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: i figured most people are liek me and have 3-5 different browsers
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: I figure most people have at least two.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampChick Tech: but will i b on here with safe mode? im good with comps but not when it comes to this stuff
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: right now i rock firefox konq lynx and opera
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vondal Tech: lynx nice
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: haha why?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: umm safe mode with networking prompt
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: elinks > lynx 
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: lynx is for email sites
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: i dont like pictures :P
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: faster loads
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: and i get vim liek commands
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: One thing you might try if its just IE open .... Try going Start > Programs > Accesories > System Tools > Internet explorer (No Addons)
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: If it starts from that link, its a bad add on in IE, and you can disable it from there
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: elinks i hear is like crystal pepsi same diff just cleaner looking
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: IE has addons now? 
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: IE has had addons 5 eva
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: since liek v 6?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: crystal anything is better.  like crystal meth is better than meth :P
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: yeah, 6
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampChick Tech: what do i do? any ideas
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: One thing you might try if its just IE open .... Try going Start > Programs > Accesories > System Tools > Internet explorer (No Addons) <--- did you try that
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: no crystal sucks its fun to do reports try using crystal reports in programs its lame
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: you enjoy doing reports?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: yeah when i get to choose the forum
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: format*
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampChick Tech: didnt work
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Is it just not opening? 
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: oh i got it open a terminal and type..... wait you dont get a terminal
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: BURN!
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Drtoki goes ooOOooOOoo.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Vamp.. is it opening and not displaying any pages? Not opening? Or not openening, but displaying some sort of error message
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: i think its not opening and eventually stops responding
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: he said a message popped up saying there was an error
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampChick Tech: not opening tryin to then not with the error message
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampChick Tech: she 
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: what exactly does the error message say?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: "welcome to windows thanks for the cash we might fix this later"?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: but honestly give me a sec
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampChick Tech: internet explorer has stopped working ...looks for solution ....problem caused program to stop working
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampChick Tech: we will let you know if there is a solution 
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: did you jsut get ie 8?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: There should be a button that says something about show details
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: lolwat? is that seriously what windows error messages say?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampChick Tech: ijust downloaded it today when i saw there was a prob
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampChick Tech: yea pretty much
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: haha
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: so far i foudn 25 sites with same issue
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: no solutions so far
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampChick Tech: wow
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: maybe use Start -> Run to DL diff browser from ftp?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: after updates for ie 8 wont open
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: don't use ie? ;)
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: So, what are the details of the error message?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: use lynx
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampChick Tech: then what do i use
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: firefox
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: nods
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: chrome?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Stick it Inicus slaps Ageha.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: opera
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: safari for vista
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampChick Tech: but i cant get any of them
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: yeah you can got an ftp program?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: i will find an ftp addy for them
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: So what is it, just not working for some sites?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: btw i jsut wanted to point out if you ran ubuntu you woudl go to the add/download program software and it would dl and auto install anythign you wanted.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: inicus it wont open
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: reference
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: wow "Windows Internet Explorer 7 may crash when you use it to visit a Web site"
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: ie won't open?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: what a useless browser
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: http://en.kioskea.net/forum/affich-92132-internet-explorer-wont-start-after-updates
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: there is a site about it 
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: "Hi, can you help me with a windows problem?" "LINUX IS CLEARLY THE SUPERRIOR OPERATING SYSTEM." Yes, this is idiotic. You should not do it.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampChick Tech: ........im f**screwed
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampChick Tech: i cant get to anywebsite
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: vampChick, do you have ftp software?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: vista site about the issue? http://www.vistaheads.com/forums/microsoft-public-internetexplorer-general/342625-ie-8-wont-open.html
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: i asked her that
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: oh, so.. does she?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampChick Tech: i cant get to anywebsite
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampChick Tech: at all
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: i dont think she does
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampChick Tech: whats ftp
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: file transfer protocol
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: allows the sending of files from comp to comp or server to comp
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: or comp to server
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampChick Tech: lol no idea
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: got a bittorrent software?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: i coudl teach you how to manually enter a tracker
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: so you could get it
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampChick Tech: ok i can do that i guess as long as it helps with no internet access
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: does vista have command line ftp? previous versions used to iirc..
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: wait vamp do you have azureus/vuze?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: please say yes
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampChick Tech: no it got installed on here but i deleted it
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampChick Tech: sorry
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: utorrent?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampChick Tech: what is that
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: you deleted your bittorrent software? still ahve the instal.exe?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: well vuze if you use thier search command they have the forefox exes
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampChick Tech: oh
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Well she doesn't have that.  She said she deleted it
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Protip: Downloading an alternate client, is not a fix for a crashing internet explorer.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: i asked if she still had the install.exe
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: i keep a folder of install files
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: even after i remove the programs
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: If she doesn't know what utorrent is, I doubt she knows what torrents are
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampChick Tech: i am here u know
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You never answered what the details on the error message were.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampChick Tech: i said everything that was all it said
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: VampChick, there will be a "Show Details >>" button on the error message box.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: was there no "show details" button or similar?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod, which was what I said earlier.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: If you click that, it will further explain what happened.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampChick Tech: its nothing there i said all it said earlier
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: go windows!
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: There will be a details button, vamp.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampChick Tech: look! i keep saying there isnt one ok? i know ur trying to help but im telling u there isnt one
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: someone said use system mechanic on vista v9 or higher
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Mmmmmkay.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: they have a phone number you can call for free till dec 2k9
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: and windows will help you
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: monday-friday 5am-9pm 
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampChick Tech: thanks ageha
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: want the number?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampChick Tech: yes please
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: 1-800-936-8479 
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: i got it from a site
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: so no clue let me check the numebr a bit more before you dial
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampChick Tech: thank u so much for trying
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: you can try removing ie8 might help some peopel say it does other say no
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampChick Tech: ok thanks 
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: nod lia... 75% of the people trying to help are idiots
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampChick Tech: i have processes now wat
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: actually this is the number 1-866-234-6020 toll free support ie8
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: got that from microsoft site
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: its for usa and canada
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampChick Tech: yes thank u
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampChick Tech: im goin quiet for a min ill tell if somethin changes ageha
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: ok have fun
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: btw inicus my linux rants come with helpful windows advice but everything has a price so teh price was listening to my linux sales pitches
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: it seriously is 75% idiots, 25% LINUX IS THE SUPERRIOR OPERATING SYSTEM, or VISTA SUX
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: happens 
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: anyone rocking open solaris?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: i will take that as a no
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liathum Tech: I miss BeOS.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i miss the time when the internet had just a fraction of it's current users and my grandmother didn't know that the internets is a series of tubez, lol
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: agreed
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i miss the time when there were no blogs
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: nods
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i'm annoyed by having to pre-filter my search results 
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: when people didn't use facebook nor twitter
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: why?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: social networking sites are the devil
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: if you're prefiltering your searches, you're doing it wrong
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: but an interesting thought, there's been tons of stuff that was popular and then fell out of popularity...i really think facebook is approaching critical mass
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i filter out all blogs/sites that post links to what i actually want
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: friendface is awesome tho. check it out
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: oh yeah, I hate having to 10xlink hop to view what I'm really after- the source
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: but google didn't used to be as popular as it is, now that everyone knows what the internet is and know what's hip on the net....i have a feeling one day all of this will implode and the unwashed masses will decide it's no cool anymore
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: internet 2.0
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: there isn't going to be implosion, there will be evolution 
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no way
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: people are fu*king idiots. they're going to ruin the thing even more
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: ruin the internet more
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: ?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: have you seen what the internet is?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i dunno, it's never really clear what the next big thing is...that's part of how it works apparently...a handful of ppl have to already collectively be a part of something and then share it so they essentially know it's the next big thing so in general nobody will know until it happens
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: observation - the more people using a service, the more it begins to suck
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: observation - the more people using a service, the faster it develops
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i think on some level, everyone is oligarchic and elitist lol
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: once everyone's in your lifeboat you want out :D
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i miss the time when jfgi actually worked and people bothered to rtfm
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: development isn't always good
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: people never bothered to rtfm
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: i love google trends
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh they did
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i'm in the dark ages, i use IMs still...i have a facebook but it's merely there because one day i gave in to stubborn ppl
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: but development isn't always bad.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm still using irssi over ssh to cover my social networking needs
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: google is secretly the commercialisation of the internet perhaps...certainly is one of the big factors
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: there's a problem with the internet when everyone uses the same site, i.e. twitter facebook and google
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah. quality communities are always small. like private torrent trackers, for example
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Yeah, there's definitely the problem, but no one's been able to come up with a solution
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: pretty much everytime so far the internet evolves again and recreates parity but google is the first time where the horse is the problem and all we got is the horse's mouth
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: with google being a huge majority of searches and all
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: well, google is an evil overlord that delivers
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Yah, that's way worse than Yahoo being the huge majority of searches.  Or Altavista being the huge majority of searches.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that's why i'm fine with it. because the services usually just work and look elegant
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm glad yahoo is dying. it's a horrible site
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: well the problem is, before google there wasn't a main search engine...if you wanted a thorough search you used a metasearch...one that did like 20 search engines at once
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Dying?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: they're fu*k'd
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: well yahoo pratically feeds their search engine to google, they're closing geocities and other services
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: after they turned down microsoft's proposal
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I like Delicious, though it's not a Yahoo original.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: geocities had it coming to them
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's back on, but they lost so much in such a short time
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: yeah that shocked me, yeah we're go on our own and die  kthxbye m$
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: lol, they were saying that yahoo is 'more than a search engine'
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: marketing :P
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: well, it's also a POP email server
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: well the way to get listed in google back in teh day, was to purchase a listing in yahoo which meant in a month or so you were listed in google
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yahoo has always sucked balls
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it has never put out a decent service
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i like their news sometimes, it isn't pagestanked/paid for like google is
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: well bing is a "decision" engine
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: i dont wnat a computer/company deciding what i want to look at 
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: lol it's also riddled with advertising
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, don't get me started with bing and windows 'live' stuff
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i stopped using windows live messenger when it decided to install folders i could not remove
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that thing i a punishment
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it has a f'ind log on assistant installed with it. i'm not retarded, i can log in by myself
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: yah lol
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: had to install the live msger for an hour
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: big mistake...
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: what's wrong with bing is that instead of thinking "hm, what's google lacking? what can be improved?" they decide to invest millions and millions of dollars into marketing with the "at least I can market better than google" attitude
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: well at least they got the memo from 4 years ago that mac has one thing better than m$ and that's marketing
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, ms main solution for shitty products - more marketing
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm sure apple is even more evil, but again - they deliver
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: mac's products are worse
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you'll be out of money, but you got a working thing
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: apple nub alert
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: apple is a joke it only came back after its almost dying because yuppies.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: yeah, basically showed how gullible they are...i still wanna know what rain forest is still being burned down
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: longest fire ever...
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, their customers are elitist cu*nts, but so are linux fanboys
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: at least linux fan boys dont pay 2grand for a piece of junk
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: to me, windows and linux both have uses...
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sacathean Tech: notepad?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but seriously - max hardware is expensive, but good and the os is cheaper than windows
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: if every piece of software i use was on linux and not needed to be emulated
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's dumbed down and crippled a bit, but it works
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: thier hardware is no where close to being the best
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: os is not cheaper then linux
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: uhh, i'll give you mac hardware > dell hardware
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: if we're talking purely the quality and reliability of the innards
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: mac hardware = dell hardware
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: mac hardware isn't exactly bleeding edge, but it's tested and working
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: same crap jsut one is more expensive
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: serious? wow
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so if i had the money, i'd buy a macbook pro and intstall debian on it
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: one is more expensive because more care goes into the presentation
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: mac hardware isn't bleeding edge, so paying as if it's bleeding edge...i build my own rigs that aren't even half the cost
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ageha is agreeing with that Drtoki person again...
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: time is money, ode. it's not easy to have such a good hardware setup together
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: you pay for the ability to have somethign pretty that you can be liek oh i have a mac whiel sitting in a coffee shop writting your novel
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: and then when i tried to open the mail program on the mac and it locked up teh whole system lol  if i wasn't exhausted i'd tell the full story
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: because other ppl have to see you writing that novel
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: it doesn't require that much effor dag
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i hate osx, but i see why low-tech people like it
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: well that's exactly it, if all you know about computers is what's on tv
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: going to make your own solid aluminium casing, too?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: then mac's make perfect sense
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: ubuntu needs tv advertising
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: easiest linux so far
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no it doesn't
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i suppose i could but that's a bit excessive
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: still way too complicated for a regular user
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: no
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: its plug and play
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: you plug stuff in it loads drivers and it works
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's not
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: the first home computers were too complicated for a regular user lol we got by with that
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the audio sucks, for example
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: you want apps you opena  program that lets you search auto installs them
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: dag when was the last time you installs ubuntu?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: installed*
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yesterday
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: my family is using ubuntu
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: yeah sure about the time your mom paid me for the night before
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but only because i know the fu*k i'm doing
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: thought you loved mac
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i've had issues with it not finding drivers for things/not setting up things properly
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: it can go from bliss to a headache rather swiftly
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: i installed ubuntu on a kids computer 10 years old so far she uses it no problem
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i like certain aspects of macs, linux and ms products. so what?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: i didnt even have to show her how
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: same here
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: well linux great, mac is a linux you pay for somehow  i still dont' quite get that one
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i have 2 sisters. they're 7 and 10 and using it without a problem
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: a mac?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also my parents
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: or some linux?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no an ubuntu box
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: dagnir thought ubuntu was way too complicated for regular users?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: your words
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: well ubuntu is like the most ready to go
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but *I* had to set it up and fu*k around with it for a day
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: it's essentially your typical OS now...after the 24 hours of exactly what you just said dag it's fine
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's generally good, but some things are horribel
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: pkill dagnir
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: dagnir install gentoo
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: its easy to install gentoo now. imho
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: yeah, gentoo.. that's a good idea... if your idea of a fun time is watching text scroll by for hours and hours
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: oh wait, we're on a MUD
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i have gentoo on my laptop
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: not if you optimize it for your system
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: who jsut does a basic install of gentoo
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: we've had this discussion, win95 works great for me...win3.1 too i guess but i can emulate that haha
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: you can do a livecd install now. unlike before where your only option is to to a stage1 2 3 base install
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: you can always optimize later
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: pfft way better to do it early and build a custom kernal
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: if that's your goal, why not LFS?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: my point is its as easy to gentoo as ubuntu
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: wtf my kde is old new version of kde yeaaa
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: I would agree with that, there's really just one command to install gentoo
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: kde is bloat
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: kde on gentoo?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: no kde is on my ubuntu
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: drtoki and me would think thats messed up
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: gentoo is for speed only
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: programmign computer
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: my pretty little laptop
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: gentoo is for speed only?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: that a funny claim
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: my desktop aka this beast is ubuntu and windows
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: drtoki, would you call an desktop with ubuntu and kde a beast?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: i mean i use it for speed only has nothing but my compilers on it and only compiles my code
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: yes, a bloated beast
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: you have a dedicated compiler? seems like a waste of resources 
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: Got a thing to fix in mushclient, if someone is intressted give me a tell 1 tp to the person that can fix it
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: may help to just ask on this channel or in a note to tech.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zax nods.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: dont know how to script with variables.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: Zax put your issue on this channel so I can see whats' up
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Use <text> * <other text> then refer to %1.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: there are a LOT of tutorials on MUSHclient's site.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: That is, if I'm remembering my MUSH scripting (which I've never actually used) correctly.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: pretty much right Oladon.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: if i enter a room and a mob is in the room i want a variable to change to that to target, and if i walk into another room it changes to a specific mob that i got in the script, everything is done manually, so it's not a bot
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: yesterday people starting flaming about bots and stuff
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: As someone said yesterday, perhaps you need a database, there are so many different long descs
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: stupid question what's a database?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: triggering off 'con all' might be more viable, but yes, it does look like a bot, and the regexp is still going to be complicated
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Well, that gets really complicated real quick.  Mob names don't always match their displayed names.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: the variable fix that
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syaoran Tech: Well you can set them manually, if you know where you're leveling.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: if i see a huge dragon in the room and keyword is shithead it changes to target shithead?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: erm...  watch the language please.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: but yes, your reasoning is sound there, Zax
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: okay can someone help me with this then?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: 1 tp
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: The problem is there is no direct way to see the mobs keyword
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Maybe you can think of a less complicated way of achieving the same result.As syaoran says you could always set the variable manually
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: no greg
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: but ultimately I have no idea what you want to do, it just sounded yesterday like you were attempting to write a bot
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: that's not what i want
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: What do you hope to do with this variable assuming it did work?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: then what do you want? just a script that randomly targets something in the room?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: i rather talk privatly with someone who can script in mushclient
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: 2 tps to the one who helps me give me a tell
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: zax, I'm fairly sure that you do not understand the complexity of what you are trying to do.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ser Gregor nods.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: it would probably be easier and safer to match off of a command you type in to target.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syaoran Tech: He could map it out himself. Have a variable store the long for the first npc, and then he can attack it. Then have it save and repeat.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: databases would be best for that Syaoran.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: is the object of the exercise to map and save the location of mobs or for targeting for leveling?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: targeting for leveling
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: then yes, definitely safer to do manually.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: safer?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: gotta love those rooms with mobs that have a 20-30 level difference.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syaoran Tech: hahahaha.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syaoran Tech: I didn't know that those existed. THanks for the heads up. :P
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: it's not a bot if it just changes variables automaticly when i go into room with certain mobs
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: same description same name same room 20-30 level difference ? -- not safe manually either
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syaoran Tech: The issue is getting the variables to set to the right thing. I was suggesting a low-key way for you to map it out manually.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: If this script were for a limited number of mobs you could always use the brute force method and have a trigger for every single mob name, which is the equivalent of having a database I guess
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: still safer to just type in the mob name.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: if you are already getting specific mobs, why not just set a target manually?  You would have to anyways.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: okay i'm tired of you balaam
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Why, he is giving sound advice.....
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Just because your bot can't use a manual setvariable....
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Syaoran nods at Ser Gregor.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: if you want to level faster, getting the script to load the some mob names into a button is far more convenient than typing out the name
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: okay how do i do this so i can change it manually?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: it's better and safer as you say
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: again with the plenty of help files on MUSHclient's website...
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: You could set up an alias to define the variable as and when you need
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: unless the loaded button is clicked, no action and no bot
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: you would need an alias like "target *" which would set %1 to the variable.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syaoran Tech: First you have to set a variable that pulls the desc.. and then you need to set one to save your input.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: still 2 tps to the person that wants to help me out here with mushclient, give me a tell if you are intressted
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: All depends on what you want doing really
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: zax:  http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=9616  <--YouTube video showing how to make a targetting alias
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: noweei
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: i'm just too lazy to do that, i want someone else to do it for me, ill pay what you want
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: the scripting for it is pasted into that forum post.  It's already done.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: how did you win 17 gq without scripts
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Not everyone bots gqs you know!
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: i was alone in almost everyone of them
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: heh
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: better question, how do you win 17 gqs while being lazy enough to not look at a webpage?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ser Gregor snickers softly.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: and having alias too all mobs to make global quests isnt considered botting right?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: one with code you can use to copy/paste directly into the client.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: that is not botting
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: oh, and a link on the page to explain how to paste aliases into MUSHclient.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: its not allowed if you tag on "k mob" at the end of the alias
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: that also is correct to my understanding
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: yes that pretty ovious
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: watching this video now
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: it's very good
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: any1 know the keybindings for the numeric keypad in TF, ie. what am i to put in keybining to get it send movement dirs?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: is there some way to debug what i say, to know what my trig for F1-key sends to mud. I use TF
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: not sure if anyone here has an ideas about this, im at a loss... sound works everyone on my computer except in any of my browsers. i cant hear audio on youtube or any other site. ive already tried reinstalling flash and shockwave...
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranald Tech: none of the browsers?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranald Tech: have you read the thread on http://forums.majorgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=98424    ? guy having the same issue from '06
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranald Tech: says that 'Go to HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Drivers32 and add new string value named wavemapper with value msacm32.drv.' fixed it
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: hmm... will try it, thanks
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: scara, in tinyfugue, you can see what the fkeys are currently set to by using "/list -i key_f*"
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: also, to use the numpad for movement, use "/def key_nkp8 = n", etc
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: hmm, it's already there
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: oki, thanks i already prgrammed new ones but it good to know
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: does sound work in internet explorer?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: this requires your terminal to be able to see the difference between the 8 on the numpad and the at at the top row
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: a already dit those
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: that meant i already did program the numkeys
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: no sound in IE or firefox
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: works in media players, games
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: well, there's one really old game it doesnt work in
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: it works without any issue?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: i have been very good boy and done today lots of work reconfiguring my aliases, trigs and gags frol old bat times (another mud)
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: there is still a lot to do, wirh the speedwalks here
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranald Tech: joelz, do you have any sound with embedded WMP in sites?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: what s wrong with the following TF command /hook {send} tell witblitz something  
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Did you read "/help hook"?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: ive been configuring tf fvr aardwolf the whole day. crap, but it's beginning to work right now
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: what's still not working for you?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: well i saw that recall is not working. I have problems also withs gags
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: well, ill continue. I should have it functioning in about 15 mins.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien . o O ( Famous last words... )
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almighty Entreri Tech: Last words? "Don't forget to call the funeral home?"
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm baffled by 'Readyboost(tm)'
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: What does it actually do?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Doesn't it basically use sufficiently fast USB-attached storage as swap?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cache
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yes, obyron, and i'm baffled at how they think a crust old usb flash drive is going to give the throughput needed as compared to the hdd or ram in your system already
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Because the catch is the "sufficiently fast" part.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's affect must be minimal, surely?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: its on top of, not in place of
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: It just has to be faster than reading the disk.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: put it this way, a cache on a floppy drive wouldn't help
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how minimal the impact is would depend on your personal usage patterns
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: and on an old sys with a usb2 port its damn useful
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Nod, it's mainly intended for USB2, Firewire, etc.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: What are you doing running Vista on an old system?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: USB 1.1 isn't going to get you anything if the alternative is reading a SATA disk or something.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: current flash can compete with some hdd...and when it's in addition to hdd instead of one or the other, it's still improvement
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's in parallel with hdd
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: not me. but the eboostr on an XP sys is equivalent
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, better to be putting swap onto a hdd which is on a separate bus, but for many people that's not how they have their systems set up
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and it's easier to tell mom to "plug a flash drive in here"
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: . o O (  ) Habasi seems to think you have the right idea.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: eb/rb is intended for the common comp nub for the most part. adds a lil speed but not much
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: It's in addition to reading a hard drive, but that's not really what matters. It's advantageous because being able to do certain reads from flash memory has very little seek time.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: But the hard drive is faster for sequential reads once the platter is in position.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: how long till a USB storage flash stick wears out if heavily used as a fast-swap drive
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: . o O (  ) Habasi noddles in total agreement at Obyron.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: zela, less time than hdd for current stuff
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err, sorry, longer life than current hdd
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Compare the MTBF for your hard drive to the expected life of your flash device.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ok.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: my hard drive doesnt have an mtbf listed on it
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: What's B in MTBF??
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Mean Time Between Failures
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vampiredude, it does, you just don't know what it is
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: abelinc ok... i dont see it on any of these stickers, ?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's in the specs, not on stickers
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Hint: If your hard drive has a one year warranty, your MTBF is probably about 366 days. ;)
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You giggle in his presence.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: less of a spec, more of a statistic
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's listed in the specs, tigernuts
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if they're specs from the manufacturer, i doubt they're unbiased
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Some a are b, some b are a, but not all a are b.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's where you find the statistic...on the page with, and in the section of, specs
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Some statistics are specifications, some specifications are statistics...
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they're always going to inflate that particular stat
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: of course they are
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Then you only buy from companies that back it up. If their MTBF claims two years but they only have a one year warranty, they don't stand behind their product.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but so is their competition
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not necessarily true, obyron, just possibly not ecomonically sensible
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: It's only not economically sensible if their MTBF is lower than claimed.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if they don't fail, then it's entirely economically sensible
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Otherwise they'd never have to pay up.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't know much about the insurance industry, eh?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: if their product doesn't fail they lose nothing by warranteeing it for another year. qed they don't stand bewhind their product
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm not disputing that abe, just saying that offering a long warranty doesn't mean it's a quality product
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and vice versa
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: tigernuts, my ginsu knife has a warranty
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: even though i broked it.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: did they replace it for you?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: no...
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: offering a long warranty on a non-quality product is the part that's not economically prudent
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you ask them to?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: a one year warranty on a MTBF of two years, likely means that the standard deviation guarantees failure within 3 years
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or did you throw it out & just get a new knife?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i called in on it, but they told me that it wasnt warrantied anymore
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: so i ended up buying a 30$ steak knives set at big k-mart
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i've seen plenty of shite products with 3 year warranties that don't last, and seen plenty of products with a 1 year warranty last 7 years
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: There's the question of whether the procedure to claim the warranty costs more of your time than it's worth versus just buying a new one.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: obyron i've been on hold with the us department of state new orleans passport agency for the last 48 minutes.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: so personally, i don't value my time too highly
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Like how you can get back your license fee for a computer sold with Windows if you wipe it and install Linux.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: also, most people don't even consider their products might come with more than 1year warranty
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: the part that bugs me, is they close at 3:30.... so i might be on hold a real long time :/
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I got mine within like 3-4 weeks and I didn't even pay for rush processing. :P
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: obyron, i put in for mine last april.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so plenty of stuff gets replaced and paid for rather than repaired under warranty
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: and i'm still waitin.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: definitely, tiger
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Did you tell them you had travel plans when you applied?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: will you expect your next knife to last as long, the same length, or longer than your old one?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: If I recall they asked me for my expected dates of travel and I made something up that was about 6 weeks ahead of when I applied, and I magically got it within that time.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: the short warrantees are a hedged protection against increased failures due to unforseen old aging of components due to design and manufacturing blunders
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: do you know how long the warranty is on each of the components inside your computer?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: there are no long-term warranties on a second-hand computer -- if the computer last three years, the savings (on not buying brand new) prepays the next second-hand computer
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: do you know how long the warranty was from new?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: usually around 2-5 yrs
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can transfer some warranties
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: if only healthcare came with warranties.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: you can usually find parts galore on ebay
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Mine was 1 year. Yay, Hp!
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: could probably piece together a brand new computer for 1/3 price or less
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: save on tech support that way too lol
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not anymore for "normal" systems...commercial units are so commodity nowadays
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nogs, prebuilt pc's will have 1yr warranty unless you get an extension or otherwise sold, if you built it yourself, you'll have 1-7 years depending on the part/manu
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i got a 3 year full warranty on my dell
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: hardware
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: cost like 50 bucks at time of purchase
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: replaced 1 1000 watt psu and 3 motherboards
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Assuming they'll warrant their part against non-professional construction.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the 3yr warranty costs dell nothing but the time
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: But I suppose usually if the end user is going to botch it up they'll do it quickly enough that it'll fall under the retailer's return policy.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: oh they paid i imagine, lol
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: had the tech drive out to my farm and do the work on it twice or thrice
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: an hour + a job depending on the experience of the guy
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: When I worked for a PC retailer years ago we'd get CPUs coming back as "defective" that had been installed with no thermal paste, that sort of thing.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: No clue if we ever actually got credit for that crap from the manufacturers.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, dell makes their "pro" lines to be extremely serviceable...nothing takes more than 10 minutes to do
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: the xps system i got's a cut hand affair
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: shits all wired together crazily
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: but it is a airy case
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, xps are geared for the home market
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: yeah, diagnosing issues with dells/fixing them is rather trivial
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: even their consumer line
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I'm surprised if it's that way now, because they used to be notorious.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why is it trivial?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: latitude & optiplex are so modular
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: not everybosy is an expert at putting together brand new computers with all required software that works  -- second-hand refurbished prebuilts are often bugfree because the bugs were removed twice -- at initial build and then a few years later at the refurbish
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Need a new power supply? Better call Dell. Need new RAM? Better call Dell...
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i bought my own ram for an upgrade
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i hate dealing with dell so much
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: everything's vanilla, oby
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: probably cheaper like that
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Thank God then.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, compaq used to be horrible with nonstandard as well
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: Oby thats not the case any longer
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: only 677 mhz, but that's good enough for me
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: standard's like 1033 or more now
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we just retired some dells with rambus memory
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: hasnt been that way for some time
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: with the exception being silly form factors on some XPS models
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I loved RDRAM. :P
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: standard is 667 or 800, actually, 1066 is still performance ram
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: haha rdram sucks
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: so not worth it
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: the creator of openbsd found some bug in core 2 processors that wasn't fixe
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: It was fast, you just had to jump through the hoops. :P
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: he said it couldn't be fixed by software anyway
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: rdram is so expensive
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: i have it in my old computer
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: one of the old dells
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: but i still got a core 2 extreme
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nearly all discontinued ram is expensive
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: my ram was $30 more than new ram
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not the same, tiger
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Theo de Raadt actually did something useful that didn't involve being a bitchy prima donna?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rambus was 10x normal price when it was still current
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: by lowering prices on ram, they support buying new hardware
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: so older ram requires less mathematics on the automated lines, but still costs more
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: at the time rambus was pimp
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: there's no extra effort required, just like that for the reason of being greedy
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ddr ram is more than double the cost of ddr2 here
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: actually, nearer 4x
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: Hey, does anybody have experience with the HTC Touch Pro?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: oh I missed the question earlier...as to why repairing Dells is trivial, there are built in diagnostic tools/codes that identify most hardware issues or connection issues. Plus they are designed to be worked on by novice users so the components are quite easy to access and replace
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: certainly fed, the ones that are built esp on the large scale are screwless everything pops in and out
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: dell's hardware diagnostics don't do that much, and aren't always right, and can't fix software problems
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Meh, they're not a software company. :P
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: oh i totally hate dell, just saying if you're repairing the system you generally just replace the part and throw another in the bin
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i ran the processor tests and it reported an error that dell said was a bug in the diagnostic software
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: rofl
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: last dell i had to fix had a crazy ferrari power supply
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: I never said they fixed software issues. Software issues however are not issues Dell ahs to deal with
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: they saved me 100 bucks on a video card though
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: they actually said the cheaper one was better than the more expensive
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: actually, any software produced by dell is dell's responsibility
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You pat Tigernuts on his head.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: produced being key word. What exactly do you think they produce?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: one thing i'd like to see is a os independent fan control on proprietary video cards
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the software for their printers, recovery procedures
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: really a pita to have to figure out electrical engineering to adjust the wattage for your bsd card
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they don't make their printers, nor the software for them...
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they're still responsible for the support
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: as they are for windows support
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Last I checked Lexmark does their printers.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup oby
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: of course using unix is a detriment to nvidia, so they won't release their opensource drivers to bsd systems
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: lexmark do their printer, but don't do the support for them
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: (which probably inspired about 90% of the software they use)
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: We're talking fixing software issues though.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: off
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why would unix be to the detriment of nvidia?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: off I say off! fail.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: because game manufacturers don't focus on it
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: btw, just so we are on the same page. I worled for 2 years for Dell tech support, Believe me when I tell you. Dell supports the Hardware only unless you are paying for a seperate service. Any issues w/ software that cam with the machine besides issues that can be fixed in seconds will result in the user being sent to the manufacterer or a complete reinstall
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Uh, NVidia releases Linux drivers.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Obyron knows, because he's using them.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well if your experience is that, fedraz, then Dell are in breach of them oem licensing laws
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: While ATI doesn't release Linux drivers. The NVidia linux drivers kick ass also :P
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: yeah, but you gotta then run the linux emulator on freebsd for those, or freebsd drivers, openbsd sees the threat in video card drivers and since they don't got the source code
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not at all, tigernuts
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: they can't legally confirm it's not trying to cause a security hole
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: OpenBSD sees the "threat" in video card drivers because Theo de Raadt is a notorious open driver advocate.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: It's a security-oriented distro.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: as he should be
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i take it hardware secrets can be seen through open drivers
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: creative sound cards battled OSS for a year before releasing part of their hardware specs
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fixing a user's software issue by a full restore is fulfilling their requirements
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I think their problem is probably BSD's license, but I don't know much about that. :)
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah, bsd's license is more on their side
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: linux's license causes lots of issues
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: it would be insane to expect anyone to dial in to exactly where a user screwed up a piece of software
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: too many variables
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: too manyw ays to be a retard
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bsd license allows for closed source parts (or whole)...gpl doesn't
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: then on debian, i found a bug with their cd/dvd burning software for gnome
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: still, you use an oem license, you become responsible for the support
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Depends on which one of Linux's licenses you're talking about, but I'm going to assume you're referring to the GPL, in which case it depends on which version.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: so i did a stack dump and stuff and sent a full log of the problem to them ,and a cmd line tool that overcame the issue
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: and they didn't fix it after 4 months
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: hence if you have an oem license and you call Microsoft, they'll charge you for support, if it's a retail boxed product, they'll give you support
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tigernuts, "responsible for support" is met by telling them to reinstall from scratch...nuke 'n' pave
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: so what Tioger? If a reinstall fixes the problem...where is the issue
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: shows how crap their support is, then 
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oem is not responsible for fixing microsoft bugs
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what if they have no reinstall?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they do
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: then they screwed it up since all dells come with a 'hidden' partition
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: so i was less of a debian fanatic after that
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: nevermind some of the idiots they let on their administratino team
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: reinstalling doesn't really fix many issues, it hides them/delays it from happening again....oh bleh that partition
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: ode thats entirely untrue
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that partition that always seems to somehow get corrupt or go missing?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: always? how about extremely rarely
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i erased that partition i think
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: uhh...that partition is a joke lol, unless there's some secret about it i don't know
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: they gave me instructions to get into it but i couldn't
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: thats likely Ode
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i have my own disks, billion times better, i'd rather just plug in another drive if it's a drive issue
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's no substitute for a disc, and if you aren't given a method of creating one from the partition, they're then in breech of their oem licensing contract again
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: restoring a dell is more or less idiot proof
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you are given means of creating one, tigernuts
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: restoring anything is more or less idiot proof no? you put in the disk, you wanna start over? k  installing...
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: stop pretending that they're doing anything wrong
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: this computer's had debian, openbsd, xp and vista on it
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I know when I bought my laptop it came with Vista. I had the option to create a set of recovery discs from the restore partition one time. If I lost those discs or anything happened to them, I'd have to buy another set.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: they were ok with tech support till i had a video card issue that caused characters to +/- 1 to them
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure, they're entirely within their rights to charge for media
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: like i'd be scrolling with less and a a would be a b, or a n a m
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: recovery disks are not the same, thats a MS thing
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nothing to do with going wrong, just highlighting their weaknesses
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: The problem is them only letting you do it once. :P
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: unlikely they could witness the problem in the video hardware through a remote terminal snooper
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: But that's an MS thing.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you have more than one opportunity to make them
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Once you make one set the system will not let you make another.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can copy the set you made
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: microsoft doesn't allow you to install into a bootloader either
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: If you have the set you made you don't need to make a copy.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: gotta pop in your knoppix and restore that after installing windows
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: making one is just the equivalent of getting a set of media shipped with the computer
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: If they can give you the capability to make a set of restore discs that will only work on your machine anyway, then why not let you make another if you lose those?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Doing otherwise is simply money grabbing for the sake of ripping off people who lose things.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they don't really have that capability
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: damn right there, obyron, probably why they do it
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: right..all companies should replace for free what people lose..
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: if it takes the press of a button and a prewritten automated system, why not?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: give me a break
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Uh, yes.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: same question of old ram chips
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: RAM chips are physical and have a real cost. A copy of something you already have does not.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: this button costs you an extra 300 dollars to press
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i bet the guy hires somebody else to press it too
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: That'd be like them charging you to make a copy of the restore disc you already have.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: 300 dollars? what on earth are you talking about
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: kheftiu, for old RAM, it's a simple case of economy of scale
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I think the problem is most likely that MS won't let them.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Which... is why everyone hates them.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i imagine their system creation automation software gets destroyed more thoroughly than any military stuff
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: no, you cannot automate your unsupported hardware through our obsolete systems
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: is there anyway to unbind f1 from help in the official mushclient so i can put a macro there?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Download the source. :P
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: you'd need to recompile
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cookar, yes...file -> global prefs
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: general tab...f1,f6 are macros
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: thank you...thats much easier than recompiling :)
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Bah, but less educational.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: silly "O" people
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Wanna see my "O" face?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh my!
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: wow i went thru those options and missed that  certainly works
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I didn't, I was just being a smartass from the get go.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Obyron beams with pride.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, you 1/2 succeeded ;-)
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Q&A is for helping people. Tech is for holy wars over what editor or OS people prefer.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pico 4eva!
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: gvim!
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I was on one of our sparc servers the other day...went to do a crontab -e...damn thing had editor set to ed
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: That's old school.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: But so is sparc. :P
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah, it's new
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Reminds me that I need to check eBay to see what SGI machines are going for now. :P
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i bought a sparc 10 a few years ago but never got to use it
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: had like dual processors on it
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: but no hardware stores near me sold video adapters or network cards for it
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sparcs are still made
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: it had like a token ring ethernet lookin card on it
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I always wanted an Octane or something to play with. The first uni I went to had an SGI lab that was freaking sweet.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my MUD client is running on an alphastation ;-)
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Gotta love obsolete hardware. "Sony SGI GDM-90W11 24" Widescreen CRT Computer Monitor"    5 dollars.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: nice 24"
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: wow i'll take it $5
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a few years ago, we were getting rid of one at work, so I upgraded from my previous AS200 4/166 (80 MB RAM)to an AS255 4/233 (64 MB RAM :-)
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Useless unless you have an SGI machine. :P
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Proprietary connector.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Oh, no, this one's DB15.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we even had the media for windows NT on alpha at work, but I've always been a NetBSD fan ;-)
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mardus Tech: is there any advanced fedora users?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mardus Tech: seems not
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nasif Tech: i have problem with mush client my bag is so big
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: hmm?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: scrolling disconnecting you ?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nasif Tech: http://imagebin.org/60573
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try typing initaard
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nasif Tech: still gigantic
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, try initfull
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: what exactly are you trying to resize?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: his map looks like it's wrapping
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: ah
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's skipping a line for each line of map
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: yeah, I didnt notice it when I looked at the link
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nasif Tech: ahh its ok now.  what could be the cause of it? i didnt do anything at all
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nasif Tech: thanks abelinc. are you related to abraham lincoln?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: Charneus' alt
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: . o O (  ) Habasi looks around and whistles innocently.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not irl, just a nickname from way back
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You gasp as you realize what she did.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nasif Tech: i see but charneus is a good guy
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and I'm not? :P
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: . o O (  ) Habasi ruffles your hair playfully. 
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nasif Tech: i didnt say that. but i like the way you think
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You snicker softly.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nasif Tech: no, you are better
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cain killd Abelinc mimics the Progressive chick "sorry, there's no discount for agreeing with me"
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nasif Tech: hehe.  you guys are great, just like what i hear from constant blabbering of my wife
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You gasp as you realize what he did.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm telling her!
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Your shifty eyes dart back and forth as you focus on Archimedes Eureka, devious thoughts filling your mind.
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nasif Tech: we are upfront about it, she can be pretty talkative... tells scrolling fast and all... but this is gossip already
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nasif Tech: thanks again abelinc. and all of you who tried to help
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-)
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sieral Tech: Have a cmud question, need to replace an ansi triggers color codes with muds.. @R etc. anyone able to lead me in the right direction
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's a setting where you tell it how the MUD handles color codes...when that's set, it automatically translates for you
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sieral Tech: where is that setting?
T1/r7/2009-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's probably in the color part of the prefs...you need to tell it that the MUD's code is @, & make sure that the individual colors are correct
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: So, anyone know how to get rid of the {rname} tag, but preserve room name colors, etc.?
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: tags roomnames off, did it for me
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: ...okay, so tack on a new requirement: "...and still allow me to trigger off of it so I can capture the room name"
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: can't you just gag the tag?
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: use a color trigger?
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Well, that's what I'm asking - I'm using MUSH, fwiw
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: You could gag it and use the wildcard to ColourNote it what ever colour you want
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: match with the tag, send to script after omitting the output, then redraw with the styleruns.
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: Balaam said it better
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: k, so gotta read up on styleruns...check.
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: just need for _,v in pairs(style) do ColourTell(RGBColourToName(style.textcolour), RGBColourToName(style.backcolour), style.text) end
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: oh, and that was declaring the script with:   function foo( TriggerName, trig_line, wildcards, style )
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: autokillenable()
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hmm. You could swear . o O (  ) Habasi has been here just a second ago. You wonder where she went ...
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Ah, thanks
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: bah, Habasi stole my bot!
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (R) That Blessed Balaam is huge! . o O (  ) Habasibot quickly backstabs him!
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: how do you substitute in tf, that is, i was"nt to bash guard, guard is the content of my variable target, howto have td understabd that i want to bash guard, not target which is name of my variable?
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: sybtax error, expected /endif, gound eo body: Whats that eo body?
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: End of
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: You've got an unclosed /if statement there.
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: some  kind if od %-mark - i know, i am trying to figure out why tF doest see the closing endif, it there allright
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Post me your code in a note.
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Just that if block
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: You're probably missing a semicolon or something.
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: oiki
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: I POSTED THAT NOTE TO YOU ola
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: took off that capslock, btw
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Scara, you need %; after every line inside your if statement.
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: i'll check
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Also, you should use regexp (not glob) and anchor your triggers.
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for the regexp part, depends on the trigger...glob is more efficient and is already anchored, but regexp is more powerful if your trigger would be helped by it
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: It's not anchored in his case.
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he starts and ends with *?
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Yes.
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: I wouldn't say it wasn't anchored if he didn't, now would I.
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/uploads/VI%20Accessible%20Map%20of%20Underdark.xls
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: hey, anyone zmud-savvy in here know how to get the map that is in the custom mush client to work in zmud?
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranald Tech: the automap?
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranald Tech: liath, you mean the bigmap, or the automap?
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Desrik Tech: How do I set my NumPad to movement in Tintin++?
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: This is fun. Installing a printer. Have the drivers from the website. "Element not found." *sigh*
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: windows installing a printer = plug it in
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: You'd think that, but tried it on Windows 7 AND XP, no dice...
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: It /is/ a usb printer, too.
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: weird
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: have you tried it on antoher computer?
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: try standing on one leg evertime you click ok, I call it Windows-Fu.
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: On two different computers, yes.
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Thought it might be the cord, so I replaced it. Still no dice.
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: tech its plugged in secure?
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Yeah, it is.
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: is it usb 2 plugged into usb1?
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: And I know the usb ports work because every port I tested was tested with a usb drive, as well. :P
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus shakes his head at Zomfg Zoranth.
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: It's plugged into usb2.
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: I would still fiddle with the USB settings on MB just to test.
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: showing in device manager?
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Nope. Not even picking it up.
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: try Start/Run/Regedit/HKEY local machine/system/controlset001(002 or 003, and current controlset, check them all)/control/print/monitors
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: What will I be looking for? :P
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: There should be a key(folder) named USB Monitor
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Yeah, thought so. Found it under controlset001. :P
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: This key has a string value that points to usbmon.dll, which is what recognizes usb printers, and installs the "virtual printer port for USB"
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: And in controlset002, but nothing under CurrentControlSet.
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Strike that. Looked under 'Printers' instead of 'Monitors.'
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: f you are missing this key I would suggest finding a computer running you version of windows, going to the same registery key and exporting it to a floppy, thumbdrive, whatever.  Then install it on your system. 
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Yeah, I have usbmon.dll in there. :P
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: arg
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Heh. See why I'm so frustrated? :P
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: so usbmon.dll is in all controlsets?
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Yep.
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: in cmud, toggle button states are just two different button objects, right?
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Tutal: Elaborate. Toggle button states are On/Off.
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: not sure about cmud, but in zmud they were just multiple states of the same object
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: nevermind, figured it out.  Hadn't ever created one in CMud before
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods at KaneBlendend.
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: are you on the sp3 charn
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Sp3? Oh, Service Pack 3? Is there even such a thing for Windows 7? Not sure about the XP machine. To be honest, now that I think about it, it may have just been usb 1 instead of 2.0
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Heh. Just tried again. 'Add legacy hardware.' 'Search all devices.' Chose the HP printer, clicked next. Acted like it was installing, then pops back up with 'The installation did not complete. Element not found.' *sigh*
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I'm almost considering uninstalling all the drivers to USB ports and letting Windows reinstall them and see if that fixes it...
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: @char your installer probably supported multiple windows version, i encounter those problems about 6 times already.  
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: stupid question but have you googled this Charn?
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Of course, Blainer. :)
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: you took that well 
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: And I still google it to see what I can find. :P Wonder if I could get it to install on linux. *ponder*
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: so it is an installer prob, you'd think MS would be on to it
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Don't even know if it is an installer problem, though. Hmmm.
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: or the printer manufacturer
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods.
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i usually fixed it by extracting the installer and editing the inf file, remove all the other windows options
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I ordered the actual CD to see if that /might/ fix it. :P
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus looks at GentooX ponderingly.
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: it usually tries  install incorrect driver by "auto selection"
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: does anyone know of a good tech support message board or something where i can go to get fast help on something?
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: ask.com
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: freenode usually has people on it
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: if you use irc
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: isn't that a search engine?
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: i haven't used IRC since the mid 90's :)
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: freenode's a good one anyway, got people of all cs knowledge levels on it
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i still use IRC
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: i don't even have the capability to get onto IRC anymore
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: and i can't download any new software because that's what my problem is...i have a corrupt DLL that won't let me install anything
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: try zoranth
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can't grab the dll from another computer?
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: whats up?
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: what is the problem ie software, hardware, drivers, or other?
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you may want to go to the forums for hijackthis logs
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: it won't let me replace it because it's in use
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Abelinc: She's tried that. shdocvw.dll doesn't like to work like that.
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't boot from that drive
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: boot from usb drive, or even windows CD
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then it's not in use
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: i don't have the windows CD...computer didn't come with it
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: download a linux live disk, boot from it and then mount your windows drive, and replace the dll.
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's plenty of options for a boot disk
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: can't install any new software because of the corrupt DLL
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: or bartPE / UBCD4win
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: imzadi, we're not talking about installing software
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: you wont install anything at all
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: i really am not that technologically savvy :(
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: try http://portableappz.blogspot.com/2008/05/portable-unlocker-187-multilang.html
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: i already tried the Unlocker program, didn't work
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: tried unregistering the dll too?
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: i don't know what i tried...Charneus was trying to help me through it...we've been at it for 2 weeks
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: ohhh
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: do you have a linux savvy friend it should be easy to burn a live linux like knoppix or ubuntu and then move the clean dll to the right directory.
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: have you tried unlocking it in safe mode as well?
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: no i have no linux savvy friends
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: no i don't even know how to get into safe mode
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: if you got java installed http://java.freenode.net/ then head to #windows
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hit f8 as it's starting to boot
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i remember a room with a bunch of windows hackers on it/programmers
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: java is one of the programs that keeps trying to update but can't because of this problem :(
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: safe mode may let you fix it even without booting something else
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: how do i fix it once i'm in safe mode?
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when in safe mode, replace the dll with a good one
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: on an aside note, have you tried a restore point from say a month back? That might undo the changes the malware made.
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: i was told that it's not a good idea to replace the dll file with another one because the one i ahve on my computer now may be newer than one i download due to windows updates and things
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: yes, i tried restoring it back a month..no dice
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: it wasn't malware
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: then it is likely more than just that dll, there is a program there that keeps replacing the problem dll.
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: i restarted my computer one day and it told me there was a problem with one of my disks and needed to do a CHKDSK...it started deleting corrupted and orphan files...when it started up again, i got all these error messages for this dll file
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: either make sure that the computer you're taking the good one from is up to date, or honestly are you any worse off if it's a slightly-older version?
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're already hosed, so not much to lose
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: keep the one that's on there, just move it to a different directory
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: i don't know, the person i talked to made it sound like it could be catastrophic if i replaced it with an older version
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: this is all really confusing :( i don't want to make a mistake
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: as long as it has you messed up you have no idea what they're doing with the system... you could be a bot net or get a nasty note from your ISP saying you have 48 hrs to fix a system on your modem that is spamming... worst case you *will* have to reinstall an OS to correct this.
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: ohhh  have you tried sfc /scannow?  you should have a windows CD for that thought
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: yes.
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: i did that sfc thing, but i aimed it at the recovery partition
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't want to replace it with one that's like from a totally different version of windows, but reasonably close won't be catastrophi
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: its now working atm anyway so replacing it wont be a bad idea
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: now -> not, yeah :-)
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v469/jerseyjezebel/?action=view&current=cmdpromptresult.jpg
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: that's what i got from the sfc scannow thing
T1/r7/2009-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: this is the error message i keep getting: http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v469/jerseyjezebel/?action=view&current=annoyingerrormessage.jpg
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: how do i start my computer in safe mode?  i followed the directions but my computer started up as normal
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampChick Tech: hit f8 before it gets the the main log in or whatev area
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Press F8 before it starts up
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: i did that
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: ther's a couple ways to do it, if you're having trouble best to press f8 or whatever it is to get the menu
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: it started up normally
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: did you press it repeatedly?
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: the first time i did, the second time i held it down
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i never have an issue just pressing it from turning the computer on, if you do it after you see windows screen it won't work
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: i didn't turn it on, i restarted it
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: restarts fine
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: how do i know i'm in safe mode?  is it possible i'm in safe mode now?
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: unlikely
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: You'd know.
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: maybe F8 doesn't work for me because of my problem :(
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: It'd say 'safe mode' in the corners of your screen.
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: your keyboard doesn't get detected until you get to windows?
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: i have no idea when my keyboard gets detected...i haev a laptop
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: charn, ther's also a popup "you sure you wanna be in safe mode? click yes to continue" lol
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: hmm what brand of comp
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: hp pavillion dv5
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: and what do you think your problem is, like why might this not be working as you're suggesting
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: oh god, i really can't go through that again. :( i just want to restart my computer in safe mode so i can do what the people on this message board suggested
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: it'd probably save a lot of time lol if the problem is related
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: i have a shdocvw.dll file that is corrupted
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: oh that shouldn't matter
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: though oddly enough the usual error message did not come up this time that i rebooted
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i haven't donet his in awhile there's a way to set a flag so that you boot into safe mode next time
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: at least i believe there is, what os is this?
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Vista.
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: vista 64-bit
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: well there's the problem :P
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goldheart Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: you can't press F8 in vista?
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Don't pay attention to them. :P
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: No, it's a joke from 5 years ago.
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods at Rathik.
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: well here's a random question, you have a function lock by any chance?
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: it's a funny looking key, not sure if labtops have this but that'd prevent f8 from working 
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: no was a joke, you can try and press pause, that usually stops MB boot process so you can step through it and catch time to hit F8
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: i don't know...i have a fn key
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: but that's to access the other stuff on the F keys
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: It might be what Ode's saying, especially if it's a laptop. :P
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: some keyboards have FN key aswell
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: well i'll say this, nothing in windows is preventing this from happening
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods.
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: But generally full keyboards don't need to have f8 pressed.
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: You've already tried rebooting it and rapidly pressing f8 the entire time until the menu shows up?
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: this may be all for naught because i was just able to install something i couldn't before...is it possible my problem just randomly fixed itself?
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: yes, i've tried that
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: k do this
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: do to start, run
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: go to * you know how to get there?
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: no
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: press windows key + R
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: some keyboards have FN key aswell
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: ok
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: in that box type msconfig
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: window should come up with 5 tabs one of them called "boot"
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: you may have to accept on a UAC window i dunno but you should get to a window with a tab called "boot"
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: someone here told me to do a /scannow, and it told me that there were corrupted files, but could not fix them..it told me to find them in the log, but when i clicked on the text file, it said access denied
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: well taht's all great, you want in safe mode to do whatever right?
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: you said you didn't want to go into the problem lol
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: it's just way too complicated and it's 3:30am
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: the log file itself might be corrupted i dunno
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: ok, i'm in the msconfig
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Not really.
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i've had corrupted memory dumps at any rate, k click teh "boot" tab
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Log file permission isn't anything to do with corruption.
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: eh i've had screwed up dump files charn but i truly have no idea on that not enough info just a guess
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: select in the bottom left corner "safe mode" check that box
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: then select either minimal or network (if you need the net while in safe mode) as which type of safe mode you want
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: ok thanks :)
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: click apply, close it and reboot you should be in safe mode
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: then how do i get back into regular mode when i'm done?
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: it's likely something to do with your function key but again it's 3:30am you just want it to work rite? hehe
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: well if you have to go back and uncheck safe mode
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: haha yes :)
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i'mma guess it's a one-time flag
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: ok...
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: but if it goes back into safe mode just go back there and uncheck it
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: it will reset to default after the first boot
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: i'm going to see if windows installs these updates
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: good luck
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: trbarter il
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: sorry
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xiiaoandy Tech: i wan to know how to set the map into the game
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xiiaoandy Tech: so that its not confusing for me
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flapjack Tech: does aardwolf show how much health i have?
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: tintin++'s pretty annoying in the way it changes its syntax almost every version, just had to change every occurrence of the #format command in my scripts
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: that is a symptom of the big failing of Linux -- not much work is put into optimised syntax design 
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldraxis Tech: the big failing of linux? righto.
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oblige Tech: can someone tell med howto gag and / or lite battlemessages in aardmud much?+
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: If you see Dashiell peers intently at Xyliz.
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: why whould it be a failing on linux?
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: He's just pontificating without knowledge
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: sudo get me a sandwhich
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: ok
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft says, "SAMMICH!" and a sammich flies from his head at Ice Mage Demonspawn!
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: i think someone wants an OS war
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: oic tintin++ is linux
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: not many people know it but in fact the whole OS runs ontop of tt++ :P
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: yeah on it runs on windows too.  therefore linux runs on windows
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: your face runs on windows
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GentooX hides her face in her palm after seeing what Iron Duck Chuft did.
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oblige Tech: did not get any help on newbiechannel either on my question on gagging trigs in mushclient. Trigger woul be something like: You get a MIGHTY blow at tiny mosquito. Vlient would foget that and instead echo to player, if anything, something like Hit\n.
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umbre Tombetoile Tech: Hello, I have got a problem, I just set back the backup of my computer. And he doesnt want to record the wifi password. it seems windows, keep another password actif and I can't remove what can I do ?
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Does your network appear on 'view all available wireless connections'?
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umbre Tombetoile Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: So choose to connect to that, re-enter the wifi password, and then set that as default connection?
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umbre Tombetoile Tech: no the prob isn't there when I re-enter the password. I push the okie button and when I got back there he show me the 8 bullet (when my wifi password is longer)
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umbre Tombetoile Tech: seems it doesn't want to keep my password
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: and di you tried connecting with that 8bullet password?
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: sometimes it shows less figures than there actually is for security purposes
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: maybe 8 is the longest length of password
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umbre Tombetoile Tech: yes but it tell me my config isn't correct to go on the wifi network
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umbre Tombetoile Tech: it was working before I restaure
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umbre Tombetoile Tech: and the wifi still work on my gf computer
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: so can you connect at all?
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umbre Tombetoile Tech: no I can't
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: is your gfs computer on right now?
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umbre Tombetoile Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Only thing I can think of is conflicting IP addresses due to some configuration on your own computer
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: This could be way out, but perhaps try switching your gfs comp off and retrying your own
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umbre Tombetoile Tech: already make it
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umbre Tombetoile Tech: I think I have to find the way to remove the actual password he want to keep in mind
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: But you said the message was due to 'bad configuration', not 'incorrect password' though right?
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Well, sorry, don't think I can help. Not sure I'm fully understanding the problem either
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umbre Tombetoile Tech: not config it is connection parameter
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if the configuration changed after the backup was taken, then going back to that backup restored a prior configuration -- wifi security passwords may be linked to configuration
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umbre Tombetoile Tech: I use the initial backup :p
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umbre Tombetoile Tech: I just use the initial restore disk
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: howto add 1 to a variable in mush client
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzitzimime Tech: i have a laptop here running windows vista ultimate..but it takes forever to get ontp the desktop once i log in.  in safemode and a diagnostic start it is quick though to the desktop..any way i can figure out what the problem is?
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: there are a few walkthroughs on Nicks site, one is a video
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzitzimime Tech: website?
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: was answering scara
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzitzimime Tech: ah
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Disable unneeded services, remove unnecessary items at startup. The usual.
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzitzimime Tech: already did that
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: for you..first check you dont have any scans like virus or malware set to go off on login
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzitzimime Tech: diagnostic startup..no malware or viruses that i found
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: safemode starts up/logs in fast because it loads no ancillary crap
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzitzimime Tech: notice how i said diagnostic startup :)
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: disable all you have starting up at boot and enable them one by one (ish)
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzitzimime Tech: .... already did that
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: then you should know where the problem is
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Then you're screwed. There's clearly no solution.
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: however it is possible its a buggy driver but have fun with that
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: likely a rootkit
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: rootkits would be evident in safemode also no?
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: no
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: depends how well written the rootkit is, really
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: however, none of the listed diagnostics would detect it
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: If the rootkit acts as a hypervisor, it can hide itself from the system.
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: tbh..just complete guesswork but I'd pin his issues on scans triggered to go off on boot up or something mundane
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzitzimime Tech: would an antivirus detect it
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: it takes booting from a clean write protected device and checking the drive's boot sector to find it
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i would like to intercede some rubbish and inaccuracy just about here
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzitzimime Tech: it seems to do this at random though..sometimes its fast logging in, other times its slow
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Nuke it from orbit, reinstall.
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzitzimime Tech: cant do that
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: when in doubt, blow it out
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Then deal with it.
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: we've told you where the issue likely is. Any deeper then that and its not really something that can be troubleshot in this manner
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzitzimime Tech: you know, i was just asking for advice, if you are having a bit of a bad day, im sorry for that but no reason to be a jackass towards me
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tzitzimime nods at a Fedaykin.
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzitzimime Tech: woops:P lol
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: he has me on ignore anyway
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: the slowness you're suffering is due to windows vista
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzitzimime Tech: vista isnt that bad when you remove most of the unessential servies, etc
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you can solve your issue by removing it and instaklling DOS
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: We've given you advice, but everything we suggest you give smartass responses that you've already checked that.
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: and when the unessential services in Vista are removed, is that the same as XP
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: If you've checked everything, can't find it, and can't reinstall, you have no other option but to deal with it.
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: yeah!
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzitzimime Tech: well..i assume when i say "diagnostic startup" you would realize that that means essentially everything is disabled
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: If everything is disabled obviously it boots faster.
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzitzimime Tech: whioch is more likely..that there is a rootkit or that there is some kind of driver problem?
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzitzimime Tech: apparently this happened when drivers were being updated, so im erring on the side of a driver problem
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: PEBKAC is most common. After that, driver problem.
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: fat32 C: drives load Windows faster than Fat16 drives
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Considering you can't install vista on a FAT fs...
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Feral Farkyss goes, 'Xyliz just got PWNED!'
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: almost as though microsoift deliberately put in delays when a fat16 drive is detected
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Almost as though an older filesystem designed for a 16 bit operating system is slower than a newer filesystem designed for a 32 bit operating system. :P
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: But that's preposterous. It's probably the conspiracy thing.
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: and almost as if fat32 system, being newer, might have been faster hardware
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: but newer stuff is never quicker
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: a fat16 BigDos system is supposed to be as fast as a Fat32 system -- harddrives spin at the same rate regardless of the configuration
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzitzimime Tech: so hard not to insult:(
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: The fs has nothing to do with how fast the hard drive spins. Seek time is only one part of how fast a file system is.
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: even xp won't give you an options for fat32 install unless your drive is small
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: farky's "drive' is tiny
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: If your drive is large it specifically won't let you, because FAT32 is slow for partitions over about 60 gigs.
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: As you'll find out if you try to format a large external hard drive as FAT32 for compatibility.
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: compatibility with what?
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: when i converted the C: from FAT32 to Fat16 on a Win98se system, an extra (say) 30 seconds was added to the bootup to wIndows gui -- but at least all the old Norton Utilities work on Fat16 drive
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: why do you use windows 98?
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: yeah..at least Norton worked...
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the system used to boot to Window gui within 10 seconds with Fat32 -- then with further additions including the change to Fat16, the bootup was suddenly nearly a minute 
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: That's kind of proof that FAT16 is slower.
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Gosh, maybe that's part of why they replaced it. :P
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: i use Win98se because i know how to do some repairs to a Win98se using Dos utilities -- not sure about WinXP -- because i did not buy a second-hand computer with winXP yet
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you're trolling, right?
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: emote sighs deeply in despair
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aeyore Tech: is anyone here using a mac
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: just ask the question
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aeyore Tech: do u know a good client to use for mac
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: tinyfugue
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and i'm not even using a mac
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're a "typical" Mac use looking for a client, your best bet is to use MUSHclient under fusion/parallels/etc
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aeyore Tech: okay thanks i'll check those both out
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aeyore Tech: I really appreciate it, i'm using clients that are a decade old :)
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranald Tech: anyone familiar with #PLAY and zmud/cmud?
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: maybe. what do you want to know?
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranald Tech: trying to make a quest alarm. trigger fires fine, wont play sound though. As if, its not looking in the right directories
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: i don't have cmud
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elck Tech: guys im using telnet and i was wondering if there whas a way to add an open door dtc to my runs
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't use telnet
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: but by default zMUD checks the <mudname>\Sounds directory for the file. include extension
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elck Tech: i dont think i can use anyting else at the moment
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Open door dtc?
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are tons of better clients...telnet has no "smart" capabilities
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Why can
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elck Tech: sorry etc
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Why can't you use anything else? By the way, check out runprefix.
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: get an account on a free unix/linux shell server, then use telnet to access the shell server, and use a client on that
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: i believe you can also specify an absolute path. and if the file has any spaces, you might try enclosing it in quotes.
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elck Tech: coz im using the  works internet to play aardwolf other then that im using mxit
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir acks!
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that way, you're still just using telnet on the computer you sit at, but you also have the advantage of using a real client with smart capabilities
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elck Tech: so wat do i have to do
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: google for free shell accounts, create an account on one, get a command-line client such as tinyfugue on it
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elck Tech: ok got it thanks
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: anyone have the zmud automapper working correctly with the runto command?  
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the zmud automapper is better than the runto command...
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranald Tech: i have a workaround i use with runto and cmud mapper
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: be eh?
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: be eh?
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the zmud mapper's advantage is that it can figure out better paths than runto
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: @abe eh?
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranald Tech: basically, it says running to zone, so i have it #TELEPORT to the room im going to be going to
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: yeah.  but... soemtimes runto is nicer... for one it saves lag
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranald Tech: for two, i dont have to remember the alias name for the speedwalk. runto is much more forgiving
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's no lag difference
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: saves the mud some lag doesn't it?
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: cpu/bandwidth/etc
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: runto just types the commands in for you...they're still executed normally
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: on they are?
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: didn't know how that worked... was readign the helpfile and it said there was an advantage
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: with runto the game has to figure out how to get you there.  With the client, the client figures out how and simply sends the directions
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: so technically runto = more lag
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: but it's hugely not noticeable
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: teh only advantage is that you don't have to know/or have programmed already, a speedwalk to the area
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but runto is really a newbie or an emergency tool...shouldn't use it in normal practice much
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: ahh kk. well that is one issue I wanted to resolve.  Get runto and make it work ith automapper so I can get to new zones
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: ones I haven't been to...
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranald Tech: just map out the continent zones, runto a new area, leave it, #FIND to locate your general area, and make the new zone entrance
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use speedwalk instead of runto and it'll show you the speedwalk it's using...
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: I suggest not using #FIND, Ranald
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranald Tech: if youve got a better command to have the map figure out where i am, im all ears.
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: #FIND doesn't account for duplicate names, and ZMud/CMud doesn't know jack about the aard coords
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranald Tech: tell that to the working auto-find your place on vidblain thing ive got now ;)
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: basically is there a way to get 'run' and make an alias with it to parse it down to the individual commands?
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: liath, use speedwalk instead of run
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that gives you the individual commands
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: ahem, that's a script.  You had to write extra code to help ZMud/CMud figure out where to place the blue dot.  Without it, the mapper guesses and appears to do it on a first-found basis
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: I do... when I have it already mapped.  oh yeah there was one issue I have with the speedwalker... something is goofy with it.  Like when I go to 'Sho'aram' it fails to create a room or two
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: on the way there
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: figured out how to get it to work with the odd 'other' exits :P  have to manually put em in
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how you end up letting zmud "know" stuff depends on how well you've programmed it to add rooms to its mapper database...there's lots of tweaking to get it working well...you really want to be using tags for nearly everything scripting-related nowadays
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: tags?
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: help tags - they're brilliant
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: help tags...it's bits of info that exist just to make it easier for scripts to tell stuff
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranald Tech: the next time you use a custom exit next time liath, just use something like >enter rock    and it will create the room and the custom exit
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: btw, could it be my config? I have it not give me the room desc again one I've seen it once
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: save some bandwidth and screenspace
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: brief 1 is a good setting to ensure that it's not adding rooms multiple times, but it also means that it won't add the room even once if you'd been there before you started having zmud map properly
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranald Tech: couldnt you fix that by resetting the explore for whatever zone youre trying to redo?
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranald Tech: or are they independent of each other
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: brief 1 is what I've been using. just sometimes it doesn't even pick up a room at all
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can use that, yes
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranald Tech: other muds, ive had serious issues with the mapper picking up rooms with no description, for some reason, it works here. go figure.
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: like the sandstorm room on the way to the castle
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: hrmm... tryign to find a way to take the 'run X' command and make an alias that parses it out to the individual commands
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I gave that answer already
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: didn't see it
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: sorry 0.o
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't use runto, use speedwalk, then you see the commands
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: Yeah... I do use that.  but then I have to type it out as '#x (dir)
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: Yeah... I do use that.  but then I have to type it out as '#x (dir);#x (dir);etc;etc'
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: sorry for multi.
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: or does zmud understand 2n3e18w?
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: nvm, it does'nt here :P
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: zMUD should let you do .2n3e18w
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: it does, just type a period, then the directions
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: oh just put a dot in front?
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: bah, slow, what he said
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: yes. that tells zmud it's a path, and it will parse it as such.
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: sweet :P  
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: you can also use ".." in front to backtrack, ie.: ..3en  => s;w;w;w
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: so I could make an alias like run x / .%1
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: oooh
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: yup, i used to use the .. all the time in another mud, so i only had to make one speedie
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: sweet lol i didn't know that and (its beena  long time since I mudded) i didn't know that one before !!
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: just wonder if it will play nice with the automapper... seems like somethign in my config on the mud or in the mapper doesn't like some rooms
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: I end up with some stuff not working quite right
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: i tried the mapper on the other mud i used to go on, since they didn't even have a minimap, but gave up on it after it started doubling rooms, and i spent more time rearranging and merging rooms than actually mapping them
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: then again, they didn't have tags on that mud...
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: oh snap!  aardwolf didn't have tegs before... this is freaking sweet.  will probably fix some of the cooky crap in the automapper!!
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: like {exits} in front of the exits :D
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: wonder if I could make somethign to get it so that it parses the exits and picks up the (closed door)
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: nod, you might even find a way to get the room id's tagged in, like you see when using runto speedies
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: hrmmm
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: i tried looking at the list of available tags, but didn't see anything like unique room ids in there...
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: hrmm... wish they'd put ids in like that... would SOOO help the mapper out
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: you can ask, there is the "experimental" flag mapdata...
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: would also make mazes useless, so no thanks :P
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: oh yeah... that would screw up mazes
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: true, didn't think of that
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: they could have a special room flag for mazes to not display the tag
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: is there a way in tt++ to test if a variable is in a list?
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: nm, found a way using fnd in #list, have to keep index 0 as dummy though
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: wow dunno what I did but I think I finally fixxed the automapper in zmud :D
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: grats :)  I gave up on zugg for awhile
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pantsalot Tech: hey guys what would be a good mudclient to run aardwolf on a mac os x?
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: check out help www
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: spending more time getting the automapper to work how I want it than anything else atm... lol
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: think i got it working now... still certain rooms dont load right... but its ok i guess
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: which rooms?
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: I have zero problems, other than formatting issues which I'm not at all going to bother refixing
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: how do I force Lua to show a + for a positive number?
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: concatenation?
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tutal Tech: can't say I recall any scripting system using + as a default display for positive numbers
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: KaneBlendend is agreeing with that Tutal person again...
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: ok so have to test then concat a +
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: i think a check of >0 then add a "+" sounds like it
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: great thanks
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: but i'm not expert in lua, so...
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: just out of curiosity, why does it need a +?
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: showing damage plus of minus comparing Mob and Player
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: or*
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: like to see which is doing more damage per round?
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: actually it works out because I have to test for + or - to set the colours
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: yeah if I hit mob in round for 100 and mob hits me 50 I display +50
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're using colors (I'm guessing something like red/green), why also use +/-?
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: good point
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and if a MOB is hitting you harder than you're hitting it, you're definitely on the wrong MOB
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: lol, now I'm thinking the wall of red when fighting a too high a mod should do
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: compress it, and have it trigger a single output per round, then clear, like on the fighting tag in the prompt
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: on average, I do like 15x more damage to a MOB than it does to me
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: maybe store it to a second variable, instead of clear, and have it output total for fight at the end, if you want to go that far
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: thats how I have it, on each status change it prints out Mob and My dmg and diff
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: Abe do you something along the lines of what I'm trying to make, if so could outline what it does?
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I have a per-fight evaluator that gives Total damage inflicted 31379, received 567, dispacthed in 14s. and Efficiency rating: 7.57 experience per second
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: how do you tell the script this a new fight, do you have the script start by entered command or trigged by the MUD?
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then on level, it gives average exp, dispatched time, damage received, damage inflicted, gold, as well as total time took, how many MOBs killed, total damage received/inflicted, how many vorpals & how much total gold
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: I am making one of those :D
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can trigger on damage dealt/received messages, or on status fighting in statmon
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: so the end of fight data is not per mob but per room?
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fight end, trigger on you getting killed, retreat, flee, experience (or non-experience)
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that makes it per mob
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: great thanks, any other advice you can think of?
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: might wanna check to see if someone else has already written one for MUSH
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: what would it be called?
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: like "combat statistics"
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's often part of a level script or exp per hour script
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: thanks heaps
T1/r7/2009-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: got a time-to-level :)
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Genocyde Tech: when downloading a torrent if i just wanna say screw it for the evening can i pick up where i left off tomorrow??
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Assuming that the sources are still there, yeah
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Genocyde Tech: is it automatic?
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Probably depends on the client...
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Genocyde Tech: utorrent
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: I noticed keyloot doesn't switch when autoloot is on, but autoloot can be turned on even if keyloot is still on.  If keyloot is still on, and I turn on autoloot, does it over-ride keyloot??
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not override, but as autoloot is a "get all", keys are part of "all"
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: keyloot and autoloot are separate
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: kk... just wonderign cause I know if autoloot is on it wont even let you change keyloot
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Well, if autoloot is on, you're getting keys anyway
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, turn off autoloot long enough to turn on keyloot, then you can do whatever you want to autoloot without needing to remember keyloot :-)
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: figured, since it would make sense... had ot ask tho cause I haven't gotten crap for loot in a while
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Desrik Tech: Anyone know where I can find some tintin++ scripts? Nothing against TOS.
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Desrik Tech: Anyone?
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Desrik Tech: Guess not
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Desrik Tech: Test
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Desrik Tech: test
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampChick Tech: y r u doing test?
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Desrik Tech: Testing a tt++ script sorry.
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: well test it somewhere else
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampChick Tech: no prob just asking
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you an use "echo" to test trigs
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampChick Tech: i aint have a prob i thought u was lookin for someone to answer
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: gtell is a good place for testing channel based outputs
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: "echo {chan ch=tech}Desrik Tech: test" would send the same thing that you saw (if you have tags on)
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: another way I used to test was to put snippets I wanted to test into textfiles, then I'd telnet into my own machine using my client, then read those files to simulate MUD output
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for tt++ help, try to catch cartman & djvoltron when they're not afk
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Basyiel Tech: I have a quick quest about the Mush client
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: What's the question?
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Basyiel Tech: Usin my laptop at the moment..  when the front end is up.. i cant click on a tab to view another window... dont have that problem on regular Pc
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Basyiel Tech: when i click another website tab.. the game takes precedence and stays up
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: did you pull the settings from your other PC to it? I had problems like that with Zmud, turns out it was trying to display the other window off the screen.
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Basyiel Tech: ok ill check other settings tomorrow, thought someone might know offhand
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Basyiel Tech: I found it if anyone has  that question again.. in the View tab on the Mush client... need to make sure Always on Top is not checked
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soraya Tech: does anyone have any advice for new users of the atlantis mud client? it really doesnt like long commands or long typed sentences.. 
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sieral Tech: use tintin
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soraya Tech: onna mac? 
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sieral nods.
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sieral Tech: http://tintin-mud-client.googlecode.com/files/tintin-1.99.6-osx.tar.gz
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soraya Tech: Yeah, thanks, looking at the documentation for it right now.
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sieral Tech: No problem, it's kinda a bit of a pain to set-up i've heard for some people. but the benefits are good
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: tintin is a pain to set up? I would disagree with that
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sieral Tech: I said for some people
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soraya Tech: so far i would say it, it's all in command shell... i hate unix. 
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soraya Tech: ok running tintin now that i can actually see what im doing, 
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soraya Tech: it's rather interesting. 
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: interesting in a good way or a bad way? I think tintin++ is superior to all other free clients
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soraya Tech: wel i think i have the problem with atlantis figured out
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: tf > tt
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aeyore Tech: whats the problem?
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soraya Tech: it's interesting in that it's entirely in a command console boz
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Drtoki gasps as she realizes what Seltsimees Dagnir did.
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: no way!
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yes way. it's superior in almost every way
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: tf wins just with the features list
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soraya Tech: the problem is in the way atlantis parses the info from the mud, if i pause too long in figuring out my next command i need to hit the enter key before the client parses that to be sent. 
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soraya Tech: or when i say something channel tell or even say if it takes to long to type it just wont send. 
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: tf features are all included in tt++ features as well...
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: python support?
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: perl regexp?
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soraya Tech: atlantis supports pyth
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soraya Tech: well anyway
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: tf has a steep learning curve tho
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: yes python support
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: no perl regex but it can use perl scripting
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i've used them both and know what they're worth ;)
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: tf is the best for scripting from all the clients afaik
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: orly? tf's scripting is client specific isn't it? perhaps i'll try it out and see if i can bash on tf's scripting as well
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: there's a link to tf scripts in abelinc's finger
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: anyone know how to export cmud maps to install on another computers cmud?
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: anyone knows mushclient well enough to help me with something?
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: question please
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: just ask your question, don't ask to ask
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: heh
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: i want to set up a spellup script, and therefor i need a placeholder for the name of the one i'd  like to spell
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: do you know what it is in mushclient?
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: %1..?
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: no idea
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: and i dont see where to set it
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: if it can be set
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Just use a variable...use SetVariable in lua, if you want to set it in the client's variables, or just use 'local <variablename>' if you wanna store it in your script.
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: read "http://www.gammon.com.au/mushclient/aliases.htm"
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tifffany Tech: hey.. how do i make my map appear on the same screen
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: ... what?
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tifffany Tech: i'm using mush client but it opens on another screen i've to click to see the map
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tifffany Tech: i want the map to appear while i'm walking, like n i see a map. i don't see it now i have to click on another screen to see it
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: tags map off?
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: um.. automap maybe?
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tifffany Tech: ok thanks gentoox
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soraya Tech: that is a program preference, look for your preferences on the menus
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: welcome
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: is there a good open source replacement for Itunes? transfer to Ipod not the I-for sale stuff?
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: hm.. gtkPod?
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: I'll check it out, thanks
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: someone move the letters on your keyboard or smthn ?
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: ..what?
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lojos Tech: i have a question about MUSHclient regarding the map screens...do i have BigMap set wrong or is that not implemented for Aardwolf?
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Is it blank?
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lojos Tech: yeah, stays blank always
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Get the fix from Fiendish's website -- finger fiendish
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lojos Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Basyiel Tech: Im using the MUSHlient to play, I was wondering id there are any sound packs available for the game?
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What are some of the best programs for encoding FLACs into MP3s? Winamp is spazzing out on me for some reason ("Error initializing output" from the Nullsoft Disk Writer plugin).
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Does anyone here use neteller and has withdrawn money from there into a bank account?
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Does anyone know what the parameter "-S" stands for when converting audio into LAME Mp3?
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakkwen Tech: -S is dont print progress report
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elrys Tech: In zmud, what is the command to surprise messages like "Trigger {blah blah} removed" such as are created when an alias does an untrigger?
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elrys Tech: surprise = supress
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: supplies
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kamzar Tech: hi guys , is it possible mushclient deal the text auto fit with the window,chat chanel e.g
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kamzar Tech: what can i do in setting then?
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right-click the window, wrap output...or bring that window to the front, go to game -> configure -> output for the most options
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kamzar Tech: thx Abelinc
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: are macbook g4's even vaguely relevant or useful these days?
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone?
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: they are great for use with itunes
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: throw darwin on it and you're good :p
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: kheftiu why not vine linux?
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: would they make useful net/home office machines then?
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: who would use itunes? except for abe of course :P
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: probably, nuts
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'd take one
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: dagnir i would if i had an ipod.
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: its on my amazon 'gifts i wish i listed ' thing
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i don't know, preference, cause i like different operating systems, and darwin was made for macs
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you can sync ipod with other media players, too
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what sort of price do they command second hand?
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: kheftiu and you're implying that vine linux wasnt?
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no idea. i don't think they're too cheap, tho
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: tigernuts they're usually not worth their price tags, you can get brand new lappies fro the x86 types for between 200-600 usually
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i've seen used g4's go for over 1200 refurbished :(
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Desrik Tech: Anyone know any sites for tintin++ scripts?
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude cries.
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: lol no, i don't even have a mac or know 1/10 of the linux distro's out there, but i remembered darwin
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: looks around $150 on ebay
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: darwin's a mix of the mach kernel and freebsd
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: closedarwin or opendarwin?
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: http://developer.apple.com/Darwin/
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: closeddarwin would probably be osx right?
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: that's probably userland utilities and stuff mostly
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Desrik Tech: So no one?
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no idea. i don't think they're too cheap, thowhois
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oops
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i see, happened in 2006
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: opendarwin becomes closeddarwin :p
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sacathean Tech: if i cant see the coordiantes on mym map do i need to downlaod trhe big map?
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alok Tech: is there anyone that can help with a zmud variable problem? please send tell
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soraya Tech: anyone experienced with tintin help me figure out a targetting alias?
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: what do you mean by a targetting alias?
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soraya Tech: as in i name a variable target and repeatedly cast the same things at the same target? so i dont constantly need to type out names of mobs?
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Basyiel Tech: set up macros is the easiest way
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soraya Tech: so you con alias and macros easier?
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: you can use %1, %2, %3 etc. as arguements to an alias, but if that's what you're after
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Basyiel Tech: to cast or attack macros is the very simplest, alias's and triggers have different but justifiable purposes
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Basyiel Tech: you easily set a 1 key macro to set up your attack
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: #alias blah {bs %1;abc;def:ghi;jkl}
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Basyiel Tech: without having to learn the java/script variables it takes for triggers, aliases
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: macros from cmd line I've never done, but I'd wager #macro keynam aliasnam
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Basyiel Tech: from command line that would work
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: target alias sets a variable to %1 .. so t wolf sets arget=wolf, then other aliasses refer to arget
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Basyiel Tech: only reason i brought up macro over alias is.. by the time ya bother to set target, ya could have already attacked
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: yeah, here after starting the fight your commands don't need the target
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: so assign it to something easy to type quick like say kk <<target>>
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soraya Tech: with a target
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: actually safer to just start the fight and then use skills and spells without a target
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Basyiel Tech: nod that was what i was tryin to get across
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: nod, you type kk bla it goes bs bla then the rest of your actions *shrugs* though it might be easier to stick with your common all thru mort. eg define a variable say @bestspell or @bestskill
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soraya Tech: so it's almost possible to just macro spells and skills after i've already begun attacking something? i dont need to cast 62 kobold? just cast 62?
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: right
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: better that way
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soraya Tech: thats kinda wierd but refreshing
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Basyiel Tech: zactly
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: if you vorpal or mob dies and you have commands queued you will start a new fight if another mob with your target name is in the same room
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Basyiel Tech: ya , you can over run the buffer.. if you have commands qued.. it will attack next mob so dont get to hasty
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Basyiel Tech: why that becomes important is if you need to heal.. you can until your queued run thru
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Basyiel Tech: err cant
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i get the impression the laptop i'm servicing would have been effing expensive when it was new
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: late 2001, early 2002 - P4M 2.2Ghz, 512 RAM, Geforce2Go gFX, SXGA Screen (1400x1050)
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Woohoo. Got my printer to actually be installed. Now... it's being finicky and won't print. I take that back: it print a couple of things, but that's it. Won't clear the queue, won't print anything else...
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: well, at least you got it installed
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Does me no good if it doesn't print. :)
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: how old is the printer?
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: No clue. Got it from someone. :P
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: what brand/model?
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: Charn it's a boat anchore mate...
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: HP Photosmart D5069. 
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Does an empty hdd weigh more than a full hdd? :P
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus rapidly nods twice at Giddorah, in complete agreement.
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I mean the other way around
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Tired and a headache
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: A friend asked me, and I can't really say
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: It's full of air, whereas a full HDD is full of bites, and bites take away things (like biting an apple!)
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: KaneBlendend laughs out loud.
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Well... Everything consists of atoms, right? And atoms weigh (very little)... So more data should mean more atoms?
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: no, it just rearranges the magnetic orientation of bits of the metal platter, it doesn't add or remove any matter
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: changes from negative to positive?
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: what about things that are of negative weight do they have atoms
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Well... If all bits are 0 to start with..?
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: 0 is also known as off, and 1 as on
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: maybe neg/pos change or maybe up/down to left/right change
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Does a cable who currently carries data weigh more than a cable that aren't connected? :P
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: that might possibly be, but you are talking about current flowing through wires now
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: the diff in weight would be that of a few electrons diffence from one end to the other
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: gah, "difference"
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Will a hdd start weighing less if the clusters are damages
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Damaged
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: He's grilling me... Haha
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: no, and slap him
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: HAHA
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Thanks :)
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: "damaged" clusters are simply unable to be read by the magnetic head
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: usually written to in a corrupted format so that the local os can't understand it, hence why some of them can be fixed
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: now if you drop kick a running hdd, you can make the head smack the platter causing untold damage to both
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: even dropping a running hdd might kill it for good
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Oh really? :P
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: KaneBlendend nods.
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: that head floats on a cushion of air created by the spinning platter that is only a couple thousandths of an inch thick
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: sudden jars to that platter spinning at 7600 rpm = bad things
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: unless it's a solid state drive, but that's a different matter altogether
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: ask your friend if a light switch that is flipped on weighs more than one that is flipped off, disconnected and put on a scale
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: same theory, no change in mass, just orientation
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Ugh. This is so frustrating. I still can't get the printer to print. Printed a test page, printed a few others pages of other things, but it's not consistent. I hate printers.
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: throw it out and buy a new one -- too much wasted time already
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Ha. Like I have the money. :P I got this for free. I got it installed on the computer now. :P
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Just doesn't want to work consistently, for whatever reason. :(
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: its junk 
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zomfg Zoranth )
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but it's FREE junk :-)
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Bah. I know that much. But I need it to work so I don't have to spend $0.10 for each copy of my resume I want to print out so that I can get a job and get a much better printer. :D
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: library :)
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: That's who charges me $0.10 per page. :)
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: really?! thats lame
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, we charge 20 cents per page at the library systems I run :-)
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: For all I know, they could have bumped it up, too. *shrug*
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: computer use is free, printouts are 20c b&w, a buck for color
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: omg thats highway robbery
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then go to kinkos :P
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: nah, print ebooks for free at work ^.^
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, so stealing isn't robbery, but charging fair prices is...gotcha
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: 10c is not a fair price
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's more than fair, actually
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: especially if you're using injectors to fill the ink
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Mandy Mandorallen Tech: It's 35 cents at university.
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soraya Tech: it certainly is, do you know how much printer ink costs for large printers?
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you've obviously never done TCO studies
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zomfg Zoranth shakes his head.
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zomfg Zoranth shrugs helplessly.
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: no, how much does it cost
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soraya Tech: a drum of printer ink for my work on a canon printer is damn near 200 dollars... that lasts less than a month and we dont print that much
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and these are lasers, not inkjet...inkjet quality blows
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soraya Tech: we might print 20 pages a day, and under a month rough estimate figure 25 days thats less than 500 pages.
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: printers cost more than 10c per page, after maintenance on the unit, toner, paper stock, etc...we use higher end leased copiers, so the cost is more affordable
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: inkjets are a pain in the ass, those cartridges in most cases are so expensive because they include the print head... make the printer cheap and the maintainance extreme.
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: there shouldnt even be a need for printing anymore
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soraya Tech: could be worse, it could be pen and paper. the cost is multiplied by how many pages you want hand written... 
T1/r7/2009-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Me Wantee Freggle Tech: any of you a registered demonoid-user? 
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: my account is probably expired by now.
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: they always purge inactive users.
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Me Wantee Freggle Tech: theyre closed to new users.. unless you are invited by a current member
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vondal Tech: I haven't used it in over a year but I'm not purged
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vondal Tech: I can invite you
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Me Wantee Freggle Tech: pls :)
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vondal Tech: well, actually they aren't giving me any invitation codes. Sorry =[
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Me Wantee Freggle Tech: hmm :)
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vondal Tech: you can just have my account if you give me your email
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: just found my account. no invites either.
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: hey I have a question
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: I'm tring to get zMud to work with portals like the aylorian academy portal.  Anyone have any hints?
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: I figure I *could* trigger 'woosh' to go to the room but that would not work quite right since more than one partal do that....
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: --*portal
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vondal Tech: "go to the room"?
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: erm... 'teleport' then?  heck if I know what to call it :))  lol zmud automapper.  need it to update
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vondal Tech: ohh I see. I have no idea about zmud automapper! :D
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: i.e. if I'm holding the aylorian academy portal and type enter, then it moves the current position to "Outside the Aylorian Academy"
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: anyoen in here use zmud and have a clue how I could do that?
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldraxis Tech: I was just viewing the nth Korea wikipedia entry when some random IP starting trying to brute force my FTP server. I ran a whois and the person is in Nth Korea =/ I ran a port scan and they have smtp / ssh / telnet / ftp running, I tried SSH'ing in to them and they are running Sun OS
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldraxis Tech: creepy, crazy stuff going on
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: creepy but must be coincidence unless wikipedia was in on it or hacked?
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: and why would you be viewing web pages on your ftp server?
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: I would have freaked but...
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: NAT route anything coming from that IP back to itself.
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldraxis Tech: it's a private ftp server set up for friends. It's not static.
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldraxis Tech: I've also been getting LSAAS / DCOM exploit alerts for the past 3 weeks and my IP has been blocked from using some online port sniffing sites as it's apparently part of a botnet, which can't be true
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldraxis Tech: so this just makes it all more crazy
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldraxis Tech: The ip trying to brute force me is 211.215.22.181 - you can log in to their SSh and Telnet / FTP but obviously can't get further then prompt. Oddly, it's owned by "Hanaro Telecom, Inc."
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldraxis Tech: anyway, I'm calling my isp and getting my ip changed and doing a reinstall on all pcs
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: erm... why would you ssh to them?
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lojos Tech: hm, i went to fiendish's website and supposedly fixed the issue with BigMap...but it still doesnt work
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dizzyworm Tech: how do u subtract between variables in zmud?
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elrys Tech: Anyone know why the zs.params() might always return 0 in a lua trigger in cmud?
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elrys Tech: When if I use zscript and print  it works fine.
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kallyn peeks to see who's around here.
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cain killd Abelinc hides
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallyn Tech: Well fine, be that way. :P (<3) Anywho, so I have a really baffling PennMUSH issue that I can't figure out. Anyone here familiar with running PennMUSH?
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallyn Tech: I'll take that as a 'no'. Oh well *goes back to academy stuff*
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'll have a hard time finding support for clients other than MUSHclient, z/cmud, tinyfugue & tintin...pretty much all other clients don't have enough users
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallyn Tech: PennMUSH isn't a client, it's a MU* codebase.
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallyn Tech: As for clients, I'm pretty fond of SimpleMU.
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, sorry, I always stuck to the MUD end, never played with MUSHes
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallyn Tech: It's all right.
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, MUD and Internet talkers (ew-too, etc) anyway ;-)
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallyn Tech: This is my first trip into anything other than a MUSH. I figured it would be a  nice change from the RP-centric environments I'm used to.
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallyn Tech: Although there was this one MUSH that was trying so very hard to be a MUD... But it was so buggy it was just sad. PennMUSH is not made to run automated mobs and the like.
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, yeah, Aard is very light on roleplay...type "rp -h" to see the sum total of all communications on that channel since reboot ;-)
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainzilla Tech: Question. If you have alot of bookmarks...300-400 or so can that affect performance of a browser?
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: dunno. probably depends on the browser and they way you use and manage them
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it shouldn't noticeably impact just browsing, but it'll definitely slow down display of the favorites menu when you click on it
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: why have so many bookmarks? ff has awesomebar
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainzilla Tech: when use that many..use a 3rd party bookmark program a better choice?
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainzilla Tech: Actually in my 3rd party program I have over 600 bookmarks :)
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: hi guys, my spacebar enter and backspace stopped working temperaraly and then started working again, does that sound like a hardware problem?
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: sounds like baby batter
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: what fixed it?  I mean, did you restart or uninstall or something?
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: it seemed to fix itself, i restarted but it only started working after that
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: something probably ate the driver.  Were there any errors or anything leading up to the issue?
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: actually i'm pretty sure it's a hardware problem since i tried in both linux and windows
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: is there a way to disable triggers temp. in the mush client?
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game -> configure -> triggers, uncheck enabled
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: thanks!
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stygian Tech: would someone mind helping figure out how to resolve, I guess, a word-wrap related issue in zmud 7.21?
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Very interesting: From the YouTube Biz Blog: 'We decided it was time to spread the wealth. Today we're excited to announce that we're extending the YouTube Partnership Program to include individual popular videos on our site. Now, when you upload a video to YouTube that accumulates lots of views, we may invite you to monetize that video and start earning revenue from it. To determine whether a particular video is eligible for monetization, we look at factors like the number of views, the video's virality and compliance with the YouTube Terms of Service. If your video is eligible for monetization, you will receive an email and see an "Enable Revenue Sharing" message next to your video on the watch page, as well as in other places in your account.'
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: YouTube is going to start paying people for YouTube videos...
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdie Tech: awesome!
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vondal Tech: cool
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Of course, as I posted, it's going to be based on a number of factors, though.
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: using zmud, using #capture would it be possible to append a timestamp to the end of the line ? the syntax doesn't seem to allow it
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: perhaps use subst 
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: that might work. I'll look into it
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: Probably a simple deal butt. How can I change the font of the game window where the in-game type is shown? I'm using MushCLient and I'm only ably to change the font of the command line. what zee heck?
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: alt+0 ?
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: game->configure->commands
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: I did that, its not changing the size of the things I see, only what I type, anyone?
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: Like I can type in size 20 text right now but all the stuff in the main window, what I 'see' is in like size 9
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: seems like the only way I can make the incoming text is to change my resolution... weird
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: That shouldn't be the case, though.
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: (make changes to the incoming text)
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: I KNOW
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Sorry, I know you know :P
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: damn aliens always messing with me
T1/r7/2009-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Buy from other aliens next time, then.
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lojos Tech: um, what does this mean? There are 301 characters using compression.
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: help compression
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lojos Tech: wrong help file hehe...help mccp
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: oh oops it should say if you meant blah so glad it lead you right, it's basically a way to make it easier for the mud
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: as far as i understand it beyond that, you're sending like zip files instead of normal files so as it says it saves on bandwidth    that isn't a techinical description by any means lol
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lojos Tech: okay, and i see i'm using it anyhow, was just curious (i'm using aardwolf's client so its automatic i guess)
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i forget which clients don't use compression normally, a lot now do, back in the day i had to run a special program with zmud
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: if you wanna know more, of course internet mccp compression should bring up something
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i'd tell ya but that's about all i know about it in particular
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lojos Tech: another question, i got the patch from fiendish's web page, and replaced the default file for BigMap, but it still stays blank (and yes i know i have to be outside of an 'area')
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: heh sorry i don't use bigmap, were there any options with it? like did you need to tell it the window name
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lojos Tech: not that i saw, oh well
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i can take a look at it i suppose i have fiendish's fix for it
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i just never installed it as i don't use bigmap lol
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lojos Tech: at your leisure then, i'd like to use it but it isnt necessary
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lojos, make sure tags area on & bigmap tag specifically is on
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lojos Tech: ok i did that....
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: holy jesus lol 
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: you got the link to fiendish's thing
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger fiendish
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: Trigger function "map_redirect" not found or had a previous error. pops up on my screen about 50 times
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lojos Tech: it says to RIGHT click and save as, thats what i did, and its an xml file that you replace the old xml file for bigmap with in aardwolf directory
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it also requires MUSHclient 4.35...the installer from Aard installs 4.33, you can just run an installer from the MUSHclient site after installing the Aard version
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i get all kinds of errors with it
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lojos Tech: cain...so if i go to mushclient site and install newer version, will that mess up stuff i have set on this?
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: sorry wish i could help but i've got nothing
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: what version of mush do you have?
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lojos Tech: okay i just installed ver 4.40
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lojos Tech: i dunno, i give up
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orgmage Tech: heya
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Hello :P
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brullig Tech: is anyone familiar with MUSHclient? I accidentally closed my map window and can't figure out how to get it back
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: file -> plugins then select map plugin then click re-install should bring it back
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brullig Tech: Thanks
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: it should come back when you relaunch too
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: or it might,
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Is there a prepackaged database script for zmud+aardwolf available? Or should I start rolling my own
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paley Tech: what is a database script
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: To import information in to the database thats built in to zmud
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: What method would you guys recommend to clean out laptop keyboards?
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Vacum.
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Failing that, replacement.
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Hm. USB Vacuum, or the household kind?
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Compressed air, also works sometimes
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Either.
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Shopvac
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Something that doesn't generate static is nice, but, if the case isn't open, risk is minimal
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Compressed air just blows the cruft out, doesn't it land in the same place? :P
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Open screen, turn on one side, compressed air all over that mutha
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: They're not the easiest things to clean, really.. not a lot of clearance, and disassembleing the kb usually means keys break
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I know, I tried on my previous laptop.
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: new keyboard prolly runs.. $50-$100 depending
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: assuming its really stuffed. usually easy to change out
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glojn Tech: does anyone here play dwar fortress ._.
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glojn Tech: im not asking to be annoying, im asking because i cant get it to run on vista
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glojn Tech: any help?
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glojn Tech: ok nevermind ._.
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glojn Tech: BYE :)
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: anyone know if you can use variables on the command line with MUSH?
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: AHAH!
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: anyone have good exp with NETGEAR FVS318 ... main purpose  vpn tunneling.. i have 2 branches(3 total including local office) i need to connect.  this seems to be the cheapest hardware vpn option... ??
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when connecting branches, is "cheapest" the best criteria? :P
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kamzar Tech: off
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: i just need to sync servers  at night :p
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: also to allow mobile sales to port in...
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd get a business-class box...up front costs are minor compared with setup/troubleshooting
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: suggestions or recomendations ?
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: having a hard time finding anything  with decent ratings
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: this NETGEAR FVS318 dont  support ip/6 kinda the major downside to it this late in the game
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my main experience is with fortinet boxes...we have 18 locations with mixes of single T1, dual T1, cable & DSL, all VPNd into a central location that has a fiber line to the ISP...FG100A box at the main location, FG60 boxes at all remotes
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: I've always just done such things with *nix boxen and PPTP.
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I have no plans to do anything with IPv6 in the next couple years...would just to a 6-to-4 gateway if it ever became a requirement (we are government)
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: snicker
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: alright. :) will browse  some forti's
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we use rfc 1918 addresses at all locations, each location has either a /30 or /28 for "real" addresses...the central location has a few class Cs
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: nods we arent using cidr atm
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: this is a small biz  all 3 locations are broadband connection.. dont hink i need such high end eq for those connects
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Er...   it's rather difficult to be classful in 2009   :p
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Runtur Vanion smirks.
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we're using cidr, just mentioning the class C for the ranges we're assigned
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but sigh...another business deciding to be penny wise, pound foolish...
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Runtur Vanion chuckles politely.
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maaloc Tech: anyone know how to change the font on the big map in mini-windows using mush 4.42?
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: make it the active window and chose font from the display menu
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: that do it?
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maaloc Tech: well i only have one window these are the new mini windows... 
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maaloc Tech: either way i can't find font from display but i'm still looking
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: i love this article:
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: "Want to boost the popularity of your latest iPhone app? Ask Reverb Communications! 'When it comes to winning in the App Store, this PR firm has discovered a dynamite strategy: throw ethics out the window. Reverb Communications, a PR firm that represents dozens of game publishers and developers, has managed to find astounding success on Apple's App Store for its clients. Among its various tactics? It hires a team of interns to trawl iTunes and other community forums posing as real users, and has them write positive reviews for their client's applications. ... Reverb claims that their clients have sold over $2 billion of product under their watch.'"
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: great way to use those interns.
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rude boy Hhugo slaps Asterax.
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: could you link that instead please
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: but yes i'm totally aware that happens, and why i think mac ppl are herded like sheep
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: http://apple.slashdot.org/story/09/08/25/1946230/Gaming-the-App-Store?art_pos=1
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: hmmm for next time you already gave us the whole article :P, i meant instead of 2 paragraph message
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: tough, buddy. although i do apologize. the blurb on the article looked a lot smaller on my screen.
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i forget the percentage but it has almost reached the point where your only option as a music artist is through itunes
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: didn't mean to spam the channel with a long chunk of txt.
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: same for the gaming industry, and the mass marketing essentially buys out any possible adspace for the smaller yet better made games
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: there are alternatives, i mean amazon or the zune store are great.
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: also cdbaby.
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: if you look at the sheer $ values going through, if you're a new artist..being featured on itunes can make your career
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: maybe. i just don't think itunes is the sole way for emerging artists ot make their name.
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: there is other social media that is at their disposal as well.
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: yeah there's other avenues but if you want sales that's where you go
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: absolutely
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: that's the thing-- i have heard a lot about the percentage apple takes from one 99 cent song. it is remarkably high.
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: the % market share of itunes for everything it has is absolutely stupid though, i could be wrong but it was somewhere between 51-80%
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: i am not sure how much that compares to percentage per song with amazon or zune.
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: yep it is indeed the "music industry" at work
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: the software industry is in dire straights as well, and it's interesting that both industries (using industry as the evil larger corporations in this) have taken similar steps, like copy protections, buying out store space, very similar world domination strategies
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: the recent deal that was forced regarding riaa and small radio/internet broadcasters
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: essentially spells their future doom as the cost structure will go up year over year per song they play
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: for instance, pandora is screwed a few years down the year
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: road*
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: they already are.
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: well before this deal they would have survived, there's no way they can raise the stupid amount of money from ads and small paying customers
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: there were recently in dire straits because of the increased royalties that record labels imposed on the songs that they play.
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: so as tom petty says, the boys upstairs how much you'll pay for what you used to get for free
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: first song i ever remember hearing as a kid was tom petty & and the heart breaker's zombie zoo.
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: right there was a deadline that congress i believed forced a new "contract" between them
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: some big artists recently have given the ol middle to their industry though, prince for instance gave out 2 million free copies of his planet earth cd somewhere...ticked them off big time lol
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: and NIN.
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: I believe he told a crowd of Australian fans to download all his stuff.
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: thing is, i wouldn't download it even if he paid me
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: it's been kinda a sad story though, with the copyright ppl/industry having all the money they can spray whatever lies slander, lawyer fees whatever and essentially the other side..public interest doesn't have the resources to fight it
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: not a NIN fan?
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: a bit, not hugely
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: i was asking anipopo
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: oh other chats scrolled me sry
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: i pretty much only listen to The Rebel these days
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i listen to just about everything, no country no rap
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: i love johnny cash's hurt cover. intense.
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maaloc Tech: i can't seem to get my telnet_options.lua loaded into mush. is this some sort of reference file, and not loaded or am i doing something wrong?
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: its not something you have to load like a plugin.
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: just put it in the proper location
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maaloc Tech: thanks, my spellup script if finally working better :)
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakkwen Tech: anyone use the con all mini window for mush client, i love this thing
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Is there any way to repeat a command in MUSHclient, something like "repeat 10 cast 'heal'"?
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: search it on mushclient.com...the author of MUSHclient has a post about it
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Thanks
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: the exmple scripts that came with my build has it (build 4.33)
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Thanks, I'll have a look
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Thanks for the previous advice on the repeat script guys, just got it working, first time I've done anything with scripting
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Another question on MUSHclient, is there any way to get the repeat script from the examples to respect aliases, so I can type '#10 aliasname' and it'll expand the alias?
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: got me , I never tried it
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: on the repeat script - mess around with the "send" command maybe you can send to the Mush and not Aard
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, the thread on the MUSHclient site where gammon posted the example gives a couple versions, and he mentions the differences between the versions...at least one of which is so that it'll do aliases ;-)
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: leave it to Abelinc to read the instructions
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Ok, thanks, I should have read further then, never was much good at that RTFM stuff :)
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=8473
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: That's great :) Thanks again, works fine. Just needed to change 'Send' to 'Execute' and it works with aliases.
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: cool beans
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maaloc Tech: where are my speedwalks and triggers saved if i want to copy them to another computer?
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: In your world file (ends in .mcl) in your MUSHclient/worlds folder.
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maaloc Tech: thanks :)
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanne Tech: Whats the best client to use on linux?  free is nice also
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: tinyfugue
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tinyfugue if you're geeky, MUSHclient on wine if you're not
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: both are free
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: has an interface to write your automated aard 'player' or the functions to customize real input
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: also tintin++ is a nice choice
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanne Tech: I use muchclient now, didnt see a dl for linux on the site but Ill go look since I like it.   Thanks all :)
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daiku Grayghost Tech: any much client users on right now?
T1/r7/2009-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neleus Tech: of course
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darthsilas Tech: i need help plz
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakkwen Tech: with?
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darthsilas Tech: somtimes when  i type a message,aardwolf just ignores it and does nothing
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Maybe it's trying to tell you something. *inno*
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darthsilas Tech: like i type north,it does nothing
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darthsilas Tech: itl just show my normal stats like a normal message
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakkwen Tech: what client u using?
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darthsilas Tech: mudding through mxit
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darthsilas Tech: think its mush
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: You can't use MUSH with Mxit... :P
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakkwen Tech: sorry, only ones i use are mushclient on the linux box, and telnet on DSlinux
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vondal Tech: oo mushclient isn't just for Windows?
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakkwen Tech: no, u can use it through wine
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vondal Tech: ah :p
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakkwen Tech: no big adjustments necessary
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakkwen Tech: just have to change one thing, then ur good to go :)
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vondal Tech: cool... although I'm used to tinyfugue now ;>
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakkwen Tech: i used to use tintin++
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakkwen Tech: ive went crazy with the mini-windows on mushclient, i love it
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: anyone know how to catch multiple lines in zMUD/cMUD?  Tryign to get it to use the {rdesc} to start capturing room desc and {/rdesc} to stop, but dunno how that works.  Can't get a pattern to match it 
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I'd suggest using 3 triggers, One on {rdesc} one on {/rdesc} and the other on * - Use the rdesc to turn on the trigger for *, and use /rdesc to turn the trigger for * off
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Or........ Multi line trigger {rdesc}*{/rdesc} .. sec..
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: or?
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: sorry missed some of that due to a wierd script bug I'm having
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I'd suggest using 3 triggers, One on {rdesc} one on {/rdesc} and the other on * - Use the rdesc to turn on the trigger for *, and use /rdesc to turn the trigger for * off
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: oh its the brackets... that is what is messing up my scripts :P
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: in rdesc tags?
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: for chat.  I got only a little of that.  usign 3 triggers
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ah
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: gotta figure out how I can keep it from putting the brackets in the variable that tracks the channel name :|
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: so you said use 3 triggers... but I'm confised what I should be triggering other than the rdesc tag... I cant capture what comes between them?
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: *
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: oh... use the rdesc triggers to turn off that trigger?
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: So you'd have something like {rdesc}, Newline: The desk is here, {/rdesc}
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: shit it did it again... can you leave out the (shift[])?
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod, Use {rdesc} as a trigger to turn the second trigger on - And the second one would be like #capture %1
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Why not fix your channel script? =p
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: use [ and ] for the brackets :))
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: workign on it :-/
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Trigger one: [rdesc], Function: Enables the second trigger.
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: cant find otu why it *insists* on expanding the variable :|
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aeyore Tech: ya'll are amazing
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Trigger two *, Function: Captures * to another window, or whatever you wanted to do with the desc
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Trigger three: [/rdesc] - Turns off the second trigger, so it doesnt keep capture forevah
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: wanted it to put the whole paragraph into the mapper description
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: yeah I'm seeing it :P
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: kinda what I'm doing for the minimap
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: I'm goign to poost this channel capture script into pastebin... think you can help me find out why it hates the brackets?
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: I'm goign to poost this channel capture script into pastebin... think you can help me find out why it hates the brackets?
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: sorry doubletapped enter :|
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: So, what you might look at doing is also using the [rdesc] trigger to clear a variable, containing the desc, and using the second trigger to continually adding the next line of desc to the var. And then the closing one to turn off the trigger, and store that variable with the mapper
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I can try, But, I'm lazy, so, I dunno if I'll rack my brain too hard
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: http://pastebin.com/d25c9c272
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And you said whats happening is when you surround something with brackets, it expands it to the variable of whatever was in brackets?
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: what is happening is when you say something in a channel with brackets
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: it makes a window like 'i'd try using [rdesc] and [/rdesc
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: instead of putting it in tech
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Oh, so it thinks its coming on a different (nonexistant) channel?
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: yep...
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: so i'll give you an example
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: testing 1.2.3 {testing} {testing2} {testing3}
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ..?
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: it just make a window " testing 1.2"
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: with nothing in it :|
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Well.... personally, I think you did it... strangely, You know about #Window ?
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: erm kinda sorta :P
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: oh... crap lol.  I shoulda used that haha
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Makewindow, execwin #say, ... a lot of that could be simplified
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No need to check if window is active, then change to it if its not, #window hannel hanneltext
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: er
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No need to check if window is active, then change to it if its not, #window @channel @channeltext
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Theres no channels whose chan tags are multiple words, are there?
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I can't think of any
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: So..
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: eek
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: fixxed I think
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Maybe {isit?} You think
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: sorry I crashed... infinite loop ... editing script while testing... der
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: nope damn... it just made a window called... maybe {isit?
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Liath... turn your trigs off for a sec....
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: but I did just get you think in there :))
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: kk off
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: shows fine now right {so}
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: yeah
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: but... its not running in the script editor
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: or rather through the script editor... I think I know the deal though.  when there are more than one "}" the trigger is matching the *last* "}" in the pattern
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: #TRIGGER {~{chan ch=(%w)~}(*)} {#WINDOW %1 %2}
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: AHHHHH match ONE WORD.  ***duh* I'm a moron
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Also Liath...... 
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Actually
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: #TRIGGER {^~{chan ch=(%w)~}(*)} {#WINDOW %1 %2}
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ^, or enable "trigger on newline" should fix it with what you had
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: actually that was already eneabled :-/
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: oh, really? Wierd
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: but this is cMUD not zMUD which I'm used to so I'm still getting used to the new quirks.
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ah, no idea. Still running zmud 7.21.... cmud thing kind of irritated me
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: from what I've seen so far it is MUCH more strict on what is 'proper'
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: what irritated you about it?  so far my main irritations have been the incessant crashing
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: when I close it, it crashes
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: when I open it... it sometimes crashes
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: The licenseing deal. Buy zmud license, OH WE DONT MAKE ZMUD ANYMORE, NO VISTA UPDATES FOR YOU. YOU HAVE TO BUY CMUD.
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: it just... crashes
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: yeah zmud was a crash whore for years, maybe in 10 years cmud will be somewhat stable
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: ahh.  my thing is that I'm not about to pay for another client when its buggier than zMUD <=3.x
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: or what it more like 5.x? :))
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: been a LONG time since I MUDded
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ah, fair enough. Bugginess wasn't a factor - Im just irritated about the "updates 4 lyfe" And then they changed the name, and no more updates =p
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: but I'm getting tired of the crappy fee based games that are well... crap :))
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: yeha that was kinda crappy
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: but I do understand a bit of that from a business standpoint.
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And, I respect the guys right to make some money... I just they would have done minimal zmud updating to make it run under vista.
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: zmud barely works under xp
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Zmud works great under xp
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: yeah.  I'm still on xp pro, and I'm leery of vista.  maybe 7, but so far I haven't liked vista
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goldheart Tech: Have you tried mushclient? 
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: the floating windows don't work so great
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It has its pros and cons.
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: works fine for me ateam. And I don't care for mushclient.
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: I tried mushclient but... tbh I'm just... kinda used to zMUD's scriting language
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: i gotta click back and forth a few times to get the floating window to disapear
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Same... If I switch clients again, its going to be something like Tintin
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: tintin?  haven't ever used it... or if I did back before, it was probably ugly as sin
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: mush is ok, just a pita to make scripts for
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: and really... I love the automapper
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Never used the automapper.. Just started playing with the database stuff in zmud.
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: really really like the automapper :))
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: yeah i've never been able to get the automapper to work
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: My only huge desire to want to go to tintin is the crossplatformness.
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: ateam... I've never really had too much issues with the automapper... other than it REALLY freaking hates the recall room
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Been looking for apps to replace windows desktop apps, so I can switch over to linux... But..... lots of programs jsut don't quite come close
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: yeah i just can't get it to do anything
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: amen daloran... i'd love to go completely linux... just... kinda spoiled my windows
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: http://www.conradshome.com/zmudmap/ Has a rundown on how to set up the mapper... though i've never used the mapper, so no idea
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Think thats Ozzys site
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: actually it pretyt much worked out of th ebox here... just ran the autoconfig thingumy
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: A lot of stuff is nice easy 1 for 1 stuff.... Firefox, Firefox etc =p
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Big gripe was no support for exchange 2007 (No longer an issue, I changed mail over to play pop3/smtp)
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Really only thing stopping me is zMud, and then few video games, Eve Online, Wow.. which.. are slowly dying, i doubt i'll play them again
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: eve is dying?  i thought they had a massive surge recently
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Er Liath, Sorry, Dying as in my interest for them is dying
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: testing out the squiggly problem from before {}{}{}{}
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: yay :D
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: ahh.  I played eve for a month and it was already dead to me... think the last real RPG i really really got into was UO.
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: yeah that (%w) did wonders
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Wow is meh to me, least till xpac comes out.... cancelled account, friend keeps trying to drag me back. I LIKE eve.. its just so time consuming to get anywhere, the slow progress makes it less fun
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Wheeee.
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: xpac?
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: oh expansion
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Expansion pack
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: yeah I answered my own "huh?" a few seconds after I hit enter
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod, they announced the next one, adds some kind of.. interesting SOUNDING features.
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: lol :))
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: yeah wow, was too much like, man i've played this game before... nothing new...
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: I'm just waiting for SC3 and Diablo
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod... sadly Blizz was a bit of a tease saying they were going to release 2 new games in 2010...... 
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: I think wow is good for one reason only 
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Apparently they were counting the wow expansion as a "game"
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: it is the cash cow that keeps them goign so they can make other games (sc3, diablo :)) 
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: yeah at least i can stall play diablo 2 ladder
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Meh, I got a lot of hours of enjoyment from wow.. but when you get to the end game stuff... it takes too much work to keep it together. Kept it together for a long time... guild drama.... no way im trying to rebuild, too much effort.
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: oh yeah dal you think that the (*) trigger will dump the whole description into the automapper?
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I think theres supposed to be a way to do multiline triggers... but no idea how. What you'd have to do, is what i was trying to say before..
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Use {rdesc} to create an empty variable. or to clear a preexisting variable. And then turn on the trigger of * to capture
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: that is what I was thinking but I think it would overwrite the roomdesc each line :))
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: oh yeha and just use append to append each (*) to the desc var, then assign it at the {/rdesc] tag
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Use the * trigger to do something like #VAR roomdesc roomdesc + %1, so it would add the new line to the roomdesc
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: exactly, then use the last one to turn off the * trigger, and store the roomdesc var in to the map
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: yeah... just tryign to think of a better way to do that :))
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: seems a little... CPU intensive? :))
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Mehhhh, its text, what are you trying to run this on a 286? =p
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: imagine a speedwalk :-/  (I use zMUD's automapper for those cause its MUCH more efficient than the server-side)
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: efficient as far as steps taken anyway
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: set brief to 1?
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Thats about it that its good for..... I don't know why you need the descs in the map, but, guess it doesnt matter
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: well... actually come to think of it... I dont need the descriptions ))
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: I just figured I'd get the trigger working right mainly cause I'ma  scripting dork.  I used to play this one mud that allowed minimal bot-like scripting just cause it did allow it
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: I like tweaking around with crap
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I dunno, other then the enable/disable thing... I don't know how to do it otherwise.
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: I think I have an idea how to do it in cMUD
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: but I dunno how regex works
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: dunno if you can do regex multiline captures, but no idea 
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: yeah me either :P  guess it'd be a zmud/cmud forum question
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: or... I could just turn off the damned room descriptions and deal without em :))
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: was only going to use them as another way to kepe the automapper in the right place
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: dunno
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: cause sometimes rooms are named the same :|  but then there is this newfangled little minimap dealy :))
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Makes ya wish vnums were public =p
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: yeah... I actually had an idea/suggestion about that.  if they could make a room flag...
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: would make mazes semi pointless
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: if they use a flag though
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: and say... there was a flag like [maze] for the room and it is set, then vnum wouldn't be displayed
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: ya know? :P
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: could i suppose
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: might be an idea at least :P
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: dunno how loaded the mud server gets though
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: anybody who needs vnums and stuff just wnats to make their bot more efficient
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: erm... actually, truth be told, I just want my automapper to *not* screw up :P
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: rules say no bots.  so... yeah.  and bots are easy to see once you notice them
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: yeah, i know a few players who aren't that quick
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: that quick for?  readign rules?
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i guess they're quick at deceiving people
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: or responding to tells?
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: beep
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: it'd take a lot of code to make a bot that would talk back... if thye *really* were desperate they could use some kinda of COM crap to plug alice or something into the bot but that woudlnt' make any sense whatsoever :P
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: lol, like writing a bot's a difficult and hardy programming exercise
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: alice... is kinda stupid sounding when you talk to it last I checked
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: that's why i wouldn't waste my time on it
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i find it rather interesting actually but pointless to have it play for you
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: yeah.  just had to say somethign about the whole vnum desire= desire to bot :P
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Hmmm.
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Creating a mud that would welcome botters certainly does sound interesting though - Make it more a challenge of mind, rather then dedication to play..
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i have 0 respect for people who write lies to waste peoples time in a fruitless effort of robotics
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: write lies?
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: write lies kheftiu?
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: the deception of human
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: you here playing chess with people or with a robot
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i'm confused, i don't see a mud where normal players and botters play on the same level..it's unfair
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: erm.  kinda lost on meaning.  talkign about AI?
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: if i want a robot why should i provide information to information gathering databases
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i can install gnu chess for free and unhooke the internet
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: uhh what?
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: you don't think too well do you
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: oh i do, but what you're saying is making no sense to me at all
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: or you usin ga veil of ignorance to belittle somebody who sees through transparent lies
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i'm not sure what these lies you speak of are...
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: ode: the oen mud I messed with a while back that didn't care about bots thought thye were funny... cause a bot can never be as good as a person.  bots dotn adapt well to unknown things... if you didnt' make a variable to provide for a contingency then the bot faisl at it
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: ok fair maiden, your wittiness is so witty that i shalt be outwitted by your lies
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: it's not interesting to write an AI program to try to do something like drive a car through a desert on it's own?
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: see i know you're a piece of shit now, why'd you have to go and confirm your lispous lecher
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: uhh what?
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: cya ode to nobody
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: huh?
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: whoa he ignored me
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: ode: I think i'm about as lost on that convo as you are :))
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sieral Tech: He's on crack i think
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: yeah bring your crack into it
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: yeah... or some serious psychotics maybe? :P
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: it makes your industries billions and addicts your brainwashed minions
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: he may be, i don't see why he ignored me, guess i'm gonna be on everyone's ignore list lol
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Efficient? maybe not. But bots are relentless.
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: another piece of slop to the pig feed
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: THINK TERMINATOR.
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: funny how a discussion of automapper and vnums in rooms beign a godsend to it turned intoa botting discussion :)))
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i think kheft is going to proclaim that AIDS and cancer don't exist in a moment or two
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sieral Tech: Yep, that's it he's just nuts
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: alot of things are funny until your brains are dust
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: but we'll get to that later
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: oh it always does liath, i was merely adding hey it's cool in a non-cheating aard way since the convo was going there so i apologize for aiding that going awry
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: lol daloran.  but we kick the terminators ass... with randomness and inginuity (sp?)
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Potentially.
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Skynet seems to be particularly resilient
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: eventually my who ignored is going to be worthy of the quote db though lol
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: eh no harm no foul.
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: quote db?
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: akk afk for a few
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: there's a quote db on daoine's site i think
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: http://www.daoinesidhe.org/quotes/
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: oh
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: wonder why http://www.daoinesidhe.org/ comes up blank tho :(
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: no content. We need new webpage.
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: ergh.  well brb switching to zMUD... i learned a few things with cMUD that might fix my automapper woes in zMUD anyhow
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: should look into something like e107... nice CMS
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: afk
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: rather... relogging
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i totally gave up on automappers when i saw someone's failboat lol
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: k back
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: not my site lia
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: ahh kk.  well whoever runs it... might wanna tell em its a nice site
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: erm... not site... but management dealy
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Meh, out of the CMS I've tried I prefer Drupal
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: lol well I think cMUD did help some... cause I learned something about mapper over-rides
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Anyone know of an identify script somewhere?
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: for zmud
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: what you mean?
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: like... for a DB?
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: for a db would be awesome - I intended to try and adapt the identify script to do that, as i've not been able to find a database script that works
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: seems like I might be able to do somethign like that... I'm not too bad with setting up the triggers and such... least when I'm not trying to use variable names inside the trigger pattern :))
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Saves space, makes things more readable.
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: ?  what you mean?
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I keep meaning to rewrite the gauges to do it
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Using the variables in the trigger
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: rewruite the guages to do what?
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: oh yeah
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: instead of using #var hpthing %23 or whatever, the commands why more convoluted then it has to be
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: but in the case of the channel thing I was lookign at it and IMHO there really wasn't even a reason to use a variable there
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: nop.
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: only semi-working db script i can find is still a bit out of date, some of the triggers aren't quite right - also it stores the whole item in a single field, so its not great for sorting/searching..
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: eww yeah
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: hrnnn.
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: eh?
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirensSong Tech: can someone help me get started with creating a .js file for html?
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not really, but i recommend you to use an editor with syntax highlighting such as crimson editor
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirensSong Tech: anyone on that can help a 
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirensSong Tech: i am using ubuntu... any editors in linux for java?
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: I'd google for tuorials and examples
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: vim/emacs
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adolpha Tech: eclipse for java development in linux
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: emacs, if you like pirates and vim if you like ninjas
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: its all about pico
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adolpha Tech: in that case, eclipse if you like IDEs
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir acks!
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirensSong Tech: basically i want to create a separate page for contiaining my header and one for footer for my website... so i don't have to put it all in each page...
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: pico for scripting? no
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: was a bad joke, dag
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i do like them pico's and nano's tho
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adolpha Tech: Oh, Javascript, not Java. Forget eclipse then.
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirensSong Tech: ok... anyone know a good tutorial??? i am an experienced C/C++ programmer... new to web-programmer though...
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=javascript+tutorial
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: this site is amazing
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirensSong Tech: i have looked at most of those... all of them show me putting all muy functions and things and document.write() inside the actual webpage
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirensSong Tech: i am looking to create a separate page... and then call that page from another page...
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no idea. i bet it's out there, just have to tweak the search. good luck
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirensSong Tech: i guess what i am looking for is how to create a javascript page... / file.... in javascript is there like a starting main() like in C?
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampi Tech: how do i erase messiges from a MUSHclient?
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Wounded) SealPoint Tech: What do you mean vampi?
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: I installed a new graphics card on one of my pc's and suddenly the display is hecticaally dimmer. Any idea why?
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampi Tech: im bissy tiping. i ment noboddy anserd me
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: hecticaally?
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: confused me too
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: SOrry, not paying attention to my typing. Hectically. Like, badly. Extremely. Its sland
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Slang
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: my guess was your old vid card had a brightness booster on it?
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: what card did you buy?
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Doubt it. I just built the pc. Scrapped a few old pc's to make it. its a... damm. brb, quickly heading over to my study
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: be sure you have the latest drives for the card (not necessarrily what came with them) and then fiddle with settings like gamma/brightness
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: drivers*
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: if it's an nvidia i know you can boost the brightness
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Yeah i downloaded new drivers. And the gamme and brightness just lowers the quality. Doesnt do much in the way of brightness
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: brighntess does not effect the brightness? o.O
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: what about your monitor's internal brightness settings?
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Its an nvidia. No idea what series. Not gonna boot it up now. But... my business builds pc's and gets the old ones. Could i be that the cards damaged? and lol yeah. THe bbrightness doesnt affect it much, if at all. The monitors set on high aswell, plasma so i know its not the screen
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: of course its possible the card is wonky. Drop it into a known good system and see what happens...be sure you use same driverset and monitor
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Will do thanks
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: want  i want in mushclient,. i offer 1 tp to the person that helps me fix this 
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: miss
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: OK?
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: I want this automatic variable changer in mushclient, that changes target from one mob to another. if you are intressted i offer 1 tp for the help, if it takes abit longer i offer 2 tps. give me a tell, i don't want it exposed on tech channel.
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: you're STILL trying to do this?
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Thats against the rules. Basically thats a bot
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadow of Arco Tech: Don't want it exposed? You just exposed it...and it sounds like you're trying to make a bot. No one is going to help.
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: just play the damn game
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: it's no bot i can say that much
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: i would never create a bot
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Thraal stands behind Tenlorn and sneers at Zax
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadow of Arco Tech: That part MAY not be...subject to debate. But the way you just put it, it's going to be one eventually.
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Durh. Your asking others to
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: you're already a t2, why bother making it more automated now?
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: if i would, i would only get nuked right
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: you're right, you wouldn't create it because you can't. You will ask other people to do it for you.
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: but if no one wants to help it's okay i got some help last time
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: the code itself would be simple though. Which leads me to think that your maliciously trying to get some one to write the script to get them nuked
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: gotta start reading the help files etc.
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadow of Arco Tech: lol you got help last time, and you're still asking? If you got help, it wasn't good help.
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: no wasnt the help i exatcly needed.
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: always had my old coder friend on the old mud i was on
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: kind of hard here without him.
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadow of Arco Tech: Yeah, kinda hard to bot without the bot writer...
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Yes, you actually have to play the game
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: if one of you guys just gave me a tell i would tell what i was trying to do
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: maby it sounds like a bot but it isn't that
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadow of Arco Tech: Then why not tell us? 
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Thraal tells Zax that he should stop smoking my socks
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: someone send him a tell then post it to tech
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Zax?
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: yes?
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: I dont follow when you say the numpad is hardcoded. You can attach an alias or direct command to any numpad key you like.
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: okay fedraz.
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Ok, listen up. What you want is kinda stupid. Your command wont prejudice between hiugh lvl mobs and weaker lvls. Eg you WILL get killed. So what id suggest is go and learn a language (java is an excellent place to start) and do it. Then, write into it that you first con all a group of mobs and write a plug in that will colour code the mobs strength according to your. Then, write the code so that when you press your chosen button it will kill the weakest first, and slowly move up. Becareful, you might still kill yourself. 
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Fedraz, he needs a variable to be entered into the numpad. although you can set it up to kill one sort of mob, it wont change. You'll have to go change the mob each time
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: you mean like the colored con plugin that already exists?
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: I understand what he needs
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: some lovin'
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Yep. I think that would be the easiest way.
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: it smells too much like botting to me..or at any rate..something that can be turned into a full fledged bot with little effort
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Thraal giggles at Asterax
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: aslong as player input is required for every kill, its not botting. 
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: my only point was the numpad commands are not hardcoded..at least to my understanding of the meaning of hardcoded
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: most any game can be botted with little effort
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: your comment is moot
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Explain? maybe im missing something.
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: you don't NEED to use the numpad
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: I imagine that would vary by skill of the player
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: you could have an alias
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Drtoki, yeah... But we try not to CHEAT
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: I guess he just wants to use the numpad as he has stated for simplicity
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Yep i think so too
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: But i would run it past an imm. Fedraz, are you one?
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: negative
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Ah we have one. Myrkul, is this allowed?
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: lol i'm not an imm :P
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: i told you to type 'who imm' and send one a tell
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: who imm
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: am i on that list?
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Dammit. Pay attention Jaxck
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Jack
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: sounds like we're having "technical" difficulites here.
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: rofl...
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Im freezing my mammaries off
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: it's allowed to capture the mobs in a room into a variable and then use something like kill 1, kill 2 etc
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Thraal looks down and screams
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: THERE GONE!
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: but you can't attack all of them with one command
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: and you can't trigger off the death message of one to attack the next
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Thats what the variable coding is for. If you can get the code to change the variable according to the mobs in the room?
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Thats what the button is for. Its just to initiate a battle
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: sure, but you'd need a trigger for every mob
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: all legal, just dont make it automatic
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sieral Tech: anyone have the moonscript.. not sure who created it..
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's a few moonscripts for various clients...
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sieral Tech: Well the one from th e crimson site is the one i'm talking about, looking for a refresh from it
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you'd get it from the crimson site :-)
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sieral Tech: Sorry for not being more specific, totally wasn't thinking
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: that's not what he means
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, you're looking to get the current status
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: you can sync the script to the ticks
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sieral Tech: Yep current status
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sieral Tech: You can "refresh <playername>" and get the current status
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, or announce status to channels
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sieral nods.
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sieral Tech: so basically i'm looking for someone who has the current status to send me it
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: if you stay outside for long enough it'll figure it out itself
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, would only take 21 ticks to get all 3 moons status
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the other scripts keep track of the moons in a different way, so can't be used to update rimso's...but grey is up in 11, black just rose, white in 20
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sieral Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakkwen Tech: anyone know anything about the mini consider all window for mushclient?
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: ask blainer
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: shame there's not such a thing as a ddr dimm saver like you used to get for edo ram
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakkwen Tech: well, the only problem im having is that it works when i first install it, then if i close the client and reopen, the window coems back, but then it doesnt work.
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Does a mini-window version of a channel capturer exist yet?
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: no scrolling a prob and selecting text
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Ah
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Is selecting text possible in a mini-window?
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: anything is possible but it would be hard, I couldn't do it thats for sure
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: there was a thread about this stuff
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Any particular thread, Blainer?
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I'm searching around, but I don't see anything that deals with it specifically!
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: let me look
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: scrolling is here: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?id=9385
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: text wrapping: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?id=9153
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik flails his arms about wildly.
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: This should be built in!
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: and I don't think anyone has tackled text select
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Thanks for the link, I'll look at the second too
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: That's just intimidating
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: well I think miniwindows are pretty new, last couple of versions have had like 6 new miniwindow functions
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik rapidly nods twice at Blainer, in complete agreement.
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Yes, some of the first versions were rather buggy, but I haven't really looked at mini-windows coding since 4.38 or so
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I find myself really crunched on vertical screen space on my laptop, and I miss some things because of that
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: this plugin could be adapted to show a simple chat redirect window: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?id=9454
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerdon Tech: Ummm. I'm using the aardwolf client and I wanna move my stats window but the top is covered by the main overall window.
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: client restore on the client, then move the main cleint window around and resize it until you can see the stats window title bar
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerdon Tech: Thanks!
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: an easier way to move the stats window is to right-click the tab for stats...select move...do NOT try to mouse over to move it though...use your arrow keys to move it down until the titlebar is visible
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: or give it focus by selecting it in window menu and alt - (hyphen), m to move with arrows as Abelinc said
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: any tintin users out there?
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neleus Tech: yep
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: i'm trying to capture a line of text in a trigger to the top portion of the window, i've got it working but i lose the colors
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neleus Tech: I just know the basics
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: do you know how to preserve the colors on capture?
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neleus Tech: not really
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sieral Tech: anyone know how to clear your Status bar in cmud?
T1/r7/2009-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Delete the status bar entry.
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryu Tech: So is there some old trick to this problem I have.  My printer is like printing really half-a**ed half the words all the way down the page and the sentences etc.
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Replace print cartridge?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryu Tech: If its not even close to empty?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: what kind of printer?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryu Tech: hp photosmart
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Uhhhh.... are the print heads part of the cartridge? or seperate
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Ink might be dried out. Take a damp rag and rub it along the ink cartridge until the rag starts showing ink.
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Also run the cartridge cleaner.
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryu Tech: Thats possible has been sitting here for a couple months no use
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: er, yeah.. ink dries out after you open the package =p
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: How do you run a cartridge cleaner on a printer? Apparently mine has dried too.
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Depends on how fancy the printer is. Some have options menus on the printers, others you have to start from the computer
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Oh, pfft, I found it now, thanks.
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Np.
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: What's the difference between nozzle check and head cleaning? i.e., should I even bother with nozzle check?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Not so sure! I assume check == test, and clean ==clean if it needs it? not idea
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Ok! We
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: We'll see. :)
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdie Tech: does anyone know how to stop my cursor clicking automatically when I hover over something?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: By the way, running the cartridge cleaner probably won't moisten the dry ink. You'll want to take it out and run a damp rag over it (warm, hot would be better) until ink starts showing up. You can use a paper towel, too.
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdie Tech: on a windows laptop?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Hey it worked!
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I did have to run the head cleaner twice, though
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods.
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Could have been dry ink clogging the ink wells.
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdie Tech: maybe not
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdie Tech: it's really annoying
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: guy wanted to transfer some outlook express .dbx files from a rescued disk to a mac entourage program. I wished him luck
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it's the kind of thing Apple and Linux really need to pay attention to if they're going to steal Microsoft customers
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Farkyss: Stealing Microsoft customers isn't anyone's objective. I think the word is educate :P
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: But honestly, interoperability is in everyone's interest. :P
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nah, it's stealing
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Why's that?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: no different to choosing a mobile phone vendor
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Stealing is illegal.
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You wouldn't download a car
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: stealing assumes that ms has a right to these customers
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon . o O ( Except that Linux isn't for sale )
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: From some sources it is, Oladon.
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no it's not
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Dagnir: yeah, there is that too.
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Only the CD processing costs are, Truri.
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: linux is NOT for sale
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: If it's Linux, it's required to be available free.
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nothing to do with rights, or illegality, stealing customers is a phrase
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: PEople also sell support contracts, etc.
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: bare in mind, that "linux" is just the kernel
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon nods at Daloran.
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon . o O ( bear :P )
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Well, I'm considering the full packages provided by Red Hat etc.
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: And yes, I know that Linux is just the kernel.
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I was using the common definition of Linux = distribution.
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: now gnu/linux distibution is something different. and it doesn't have to be free as beer
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: be nice for linux distro cd's to have a windows bootable program on it that will tell the consumer exactly what will and will not work (hardwarewise) on their pc with linux, and list their programs, and what built in alternatives linux has
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Right, 'cause that wouldn't be hard to code at all...
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Linux has nothing built in, it's all up in the air for you to choose :P
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: shouldn't be hard at all to code
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: microsoft did it with vista
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Plus, the descriptions are already written for each program if you use a package manager.
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: scan hardware id's, compare with a list of supported items
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Why duplicate what's already been done?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Also - there are HCLs available online :)
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: hasn't been done for linux
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Farkyss: that's the nice thing about Linux... if you want something done, if you think it's a good idea, you can do it yourself :P
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: no good to people having it hidden online, if you want a casual or newbie user to have a good linux experience, you want that program running and giving you a report before you install
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: And if enough people catch on that it's a cool idea, then more people will help you with it.
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: As opposed to waiting for department #9018-A2 to pass memos up and down the chain of command for version 0.1.2b
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it's all very well saying you can do it yourself, but if all linux ever does is what it's doing, it'll always stay as what it is: A nerdy operating system for an elite few nerds
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i'm just making suggestions 
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I prefer "technical users" to nerds, I think
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: no, nerds is more accurate
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Well, it's all very well being demeaning and hiding behind 'making suggestions' ... but it really is possible for you to do it yourself. If you are interested, why don't we collaborate on this as a side project?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: in some cases, true
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i'm not conversant in linux at all, so i couldn't help you, trurien
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it was a big step forward having a try-cd, and a nice easy install gui, but they do seem to still be behind the curve
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Well, you could help by compiling a list of the necessary info and putting it online. :P
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: like you said, the info is already there
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Then people can advertise that.
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Well, if it's hidden all over the place, and you know better, you could help consolidate it :)
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: personally, i'm sticking to xp cos it works
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Linux will always be behind the curve because the curve has already been defined by MS users :P We Linux folk have our own curve, and we're allowing everyone to say what it should look like :P
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: that's why you'll always find it difficult to attract newbie or ms users
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Well, what's needed is interoperability, regardless of the operating system you're using - so long as it works, you shouldn't be obliged to change to another one unless it fixes some security problems which couldn't otherwise be fixed :)
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Also, a lot of people say a lot of stuff about Linux and then stick to their preferred Windows version, not realising that their feedback can be used constructively.
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: that sounds like waffle to me
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Isn't that what everybody's doing?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: might be, i don't know
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: webpages are standard, images are standard, only thing isn't is office formats
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: what's the story with directx? microsoft got sole rights to that?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: What's the story with DirectX?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Also, is what you were suggesting earlier something along the lines of http://www.linux.ie/newusers/alternatives.php ?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i'm guessing getting games to work properly with linux that were written for microsoft windows hinges around emulating directx
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: or for game makers not to use it
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: are you suggesting that games manufacturers code from the ground up and only support a handful of specific hardware?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: sounds like the dos days, to me
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Or they could, you know, come up with their own
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: sure, if you wanted every game to take 5 years to make, and have patchy compatibility
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Isn't DirectX exclusively a Microsoft technology?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i don't know, that's what i asked earlier :-)
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yes, DirectX is a microsoft product.
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: But the API is freely available, right?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i think linux's ability to break through as a serious alternative for the casual/gamer market is dependant on them getting a directx compatible system up and working
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: As far as I know.
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: OpenGL is free, isn't it?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: didn't opengl get left behind in about 2002?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Plus I've been playing HoN (closed beta) for some time now - I'm not sure if it emulates DirectX or not, but it runs natively on Linux.
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: playing what?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Eve Online had a linux client in the works forever... got scrapped eventually, but it works under Wine, as I understand it
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Heroes of Newerth, a standalone DoTA clone. :P
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Daloran: that's emulation again, isn't it?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You know, come to think of it, Wow is avalible for macs... What are they using as an equivlent to directx?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No, Trutien
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Trurien
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it's a good question
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mardus Tech: why fedora 11 crashes with ati video...
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yeah, I forgot what WINE stood for :P
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Wine is not an emulator.
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Mardus: no idea. Probably something to do with proprietary drivers, etc etc.
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: wine pretty much has to be an an emulator of sorts
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ati linux drivers are the worst
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that means that they're REALLY bad. practically unusable
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I've got nVidia, and it's going fine :)
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: My ATI card works fine under linux.
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nvidia has excellent linux support
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mardus Tech: at default install: if i click display settings then xwin crashes.. if i uninstall drivers, then it works, if i use rpmfusion drivers then xwin messed tottaly up, it isnt start..
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mardus Tech: and this problem is only with fedora, suse,mandriva,debian worked..
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mardus Tech: but i want fedora!
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: "Wine Is Not an Emulator:
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Mardus: I don't know, compile your own driver? Or something. I took a lot of time to set up my nVidia card too.
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: yeah, gentoox, but it is though
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nvidia has a linux installer
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: couldn't be easier
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: how come? what does it emulate?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mardus Tech: nvidia suppoert is great.. ati sucks..
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mardus Tech: but im not too good for linux to compile my own driver..
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Rather than acting as a full emulator, Wine implements a compatibility layer, providing alternative implementations of the DLLs that Windows programs call, and processes to substitute for the Windows NT kernel.
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: @farkyss http://www.winehq.org/myths
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mardus Tech: tuxracer works perfectly:D
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Dagnir: I didn't use the linux installer, but module-assistant for debian worked fine :)
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: even better - you can choose the way you install it
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mardus Tech: like usual.. no help from here..:D
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: This channel is Tech, not Tech-support.
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: what was the question?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: you have been told to recompile didnt you?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: do you want someone to recompile for you?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: scan
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: opps
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: North of here: Daloran
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GentooX falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Farkyss: you there?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: prolly still reading about wine myths *rolls eyes
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Myth 23: IT GETS YOU DRUNK.
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Just wondering if he had any comment about http://www.linux.ie/newusers/alternatives.php :D
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: bleh prolly concedes.  why do someone talks crap about linux when they dont know about it at all?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: stop feeding the trolls
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: well if someone talks about how the linux kernel is crap in dept, i would be delighted
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Linux is crap.. what kind of operating system has a vowel in its name
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: this describes linux development pretty well - http://xkcd.com/619/
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Using a comic to make a point invalidates any argument you were trying to make.
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: why?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Because a comic is for entertainment purposes only.
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ok. you're officially an idiot
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: External use only. Your mileage may vary. Offer void in canada.
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: there is no other game than aard
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No personal attacks on public channels.
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: this can't be taken seriously, because we're playing a game
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: oh dear
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and it's for entertainment only 
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Exactly, Dagnir.
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nevertheless, the comic is absolutely true
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I suspect that conversation has ever seriously taken place.
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: never, rather
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: are you trolling or just stupid?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: kernel development is completely different from porting flash support
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Dagnir: Are you being rude or just a stove?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm being rude
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Also stating the obvious. Well done, chap.
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm puping right now, so i try to spend as little time as i can to get to the point
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's all aboot the efficiency
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Well, taking time out of your busy pupping schedule to insult me is hardly efficient.
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm sorry, but your "comic invalidates any argument" argument was really moronic
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Again, with the wasting time trying to insult me.
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what aboot gonzo then?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm not trying to insult you
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: you can always settle things with a challenge
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: stick it to the man!
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LordSation Tech: anyone know zmud well for script tracker reporting problems?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: has anyone had trouble installing flash player 10 in linux... tar.gz format?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Is there no better way to install it in your given distro, Hhugo?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: when i unpack the file it doesn't give me an install directory like it should... it just pulls out this libflashplayer.so file
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: I use backtrack 4
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: i don't know of a better way if there is one
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: That's a shared object, aka library ... I can't remember where it has to be put, but if you have a package manager there might be a preassembled package for Flash.
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: yeah i put the file in the /usr/lib/firefox-plugins folder where it goes
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Ah, OK. Did you make Firefox recognise it?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: and then when you do about:plugins in the address bar of firefox it says that it is there and working
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Restart FF?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: yeah did that
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: i don't know what i'm missing...
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soraya Tech: try a full system reboot
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Not too sure myself, ask on IRC?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Soraya: why?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why are you using backtrack in a used system?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soraya Tech: because ff doesnt like being messed with sometimes
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: What is BackTrack for, anyway? It's by remote-exploits.org, I just saw...
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a testing tool, not a user OS
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: it's pentesting
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: For finding security holes?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: i know it isn't a user OS... but i still would like to be able to use flash
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Get another distro, perhaps?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: i have it dual booted
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: can only mushclient have a specific number of aliases?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: i cannot create more than i already have...?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are you sure you're not using in-game aliases?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: dont know what that is
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: im using the aliases in the client
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are you typing "alias <something> <what you want it to do>?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: no
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: i got alises in mushclient
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you're in game -> configure -> aliases, and you click "add", what does it say?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: labels have to be unique if you are using them
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: configure?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: get an error when trying to paste an alias with a label
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: man i'm not good at this
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: is there a configure in mushclient?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: is that what you mean?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how are you making your aliases? in MUSHclient, you take your mouse to Game, drop down to Configure, over to Aliases
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: those are menu options
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: i'm there now
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: i cannot copy paste an already existing alias
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what happens when you clik "Add"?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: maby i can create a new one but why cant i copy paste an alias?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: let me try add a new alias.
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: that works
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: but i cannot copy paste any more
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: over a certain point.
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I just used copy/paste to create 1024 aliases
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: it's the label
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: hello
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't label your aliases ;-)
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: label?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: what's that
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: when i play aard on linux, and when i play it on xp, the font is differnt, any ideas why?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: edit an alias and you see a label
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: different telnet clients?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: meister, Aard doesn't use fonts...the program you run uses fonts
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: both are mush, on linux i'm running the program on wine
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're using different programs, or a program with different settings
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: linux probably didn't have the font that mush wanted to use, so it uses its next best guess
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: is there any thing i can do so i can keep on copy paste aliases?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: I told you
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: zax, yes...make sure that you don't have any labels set
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: how do i do that?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: damn this starts to get stupid.
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: yes..it sure does..
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: edit the aliases, one by one, to see what ones have label...or look at the world file itself
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: what font does aard use?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: my alises doesnt seem to have any labels
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aard doesn't use fonts
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: meister, find a font that you like, & set it in MUSH in both OSes
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: what is the exact error you get when you try to paste one that you are sure doesn't have a label
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: the paste button vanishes
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: and first i copy, then the paste button turns grey
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: but if i remove 1 alias, i can copy paste 1 time again
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: seems like it's out of space or something
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: but i can still add aliases
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: but i cannot copy paste them.
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I just kept doubling my aliases using copy/paste...I'm up to 32,768 aliases that way
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: man...
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: in mushclient abe?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: wonder why Intel removed all their modem drivers from their site
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm on 4.42 though
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sold off that branch?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: would it have been too hard for them to put them in a "legacy/no longer supported" section?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: anyone know how to get tintin on linux to play a .wav file?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: not that i can see, abe, discontinued then refused to acknowledged they ever existed, it seems
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: or just how to play a .wav file from a linux shell would be nice
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: call a player, like splay
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: hmm, worked like a charm, its funny how linux and ms work so differently
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you use #system splay /path/to/wave/file.wav
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: thanks abe
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: okay i think this version of mushclient is bugged
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: but i solved the problem
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: i just have to copy paste real quick
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: if im too slow the paste button turns grey
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: so it allows me to copy if i'm fast on the paste button
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: very wierd
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: you have any other processes running that clear the clipboard?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: no
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: i might have some kind of virus on the computer
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: because i cannot copy paste in windows
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: it just says "Hello!"  think it's a virus or something
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, you could've mentioned that earlier instead of "i think this version of mushclient is bugged" ;-)
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUSHclient literally is just using windows normal copy/paste
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you have notepad open, click copy on an alias in MUSHclient, then quickly switch to notepad, you can paste the code that MUSHclient uses for the alias (but you'd have to be quick with your current system)
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if the clipboard doesn't have something that "makes sense" as an alias, then MUSHclient greys out the paste button..."Hello!" definitely doesn't fit the code for an alias
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hehe, Delete 4094 aliases - are you sure?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: can anyone help me get splay or something similar working on linux?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: i installed it, and i can send it a file but no noise comes out
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: do i need to specify a device or something?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can specify a device if its default isn't correct for your system
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have you ever played sounds in this installation of linux?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: i.e. do we know that the sound card is configured in the kernel, etc
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: noting that system beep doesn't need the same level of access as playing real sounds
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: the .wav file plays fine if i just double click on it from the file browser
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ok, then look in your file browser's settings to see what command it is using to play the sound
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: & then just use that command in tt++
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: how do i look in my file browser settings?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that'd depend on the file browser...may need to look in its config file, or there may be a GUI interface to the settings
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: it seems to be mapped to "movie player" but i dont know what shell command that maps to
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: ok i got th player working, but my main window get spammed with output, i tried redirecting with &> but i still get an ok from system
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: any ideas on spam reduction?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: aardwolf was working so well on linux until i type help
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: the mush client just hanged
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: at least a window appeared momentarily, as if it would do so on windows
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: i'm pretty happy with tintin
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: though it took quite a while to configure
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: thats a known issue Meister, disable the Help plugin and will be ok
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: what?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: h 10
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: do audiobooks come in any special format or are they just like any other audio file ?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: depends on the encoding
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: there is no "standard"
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: audio books are *awesome*
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: usually low bitrate mp3, but i've seen ogg's around
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: some in WMA as well.
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir acks!
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: WMA with DRM.
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: wma should be outlawed by geneva convention
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: cool, thanks
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: by the way, what's the difference between cable and dsl in terms of performance, at similar speeds? Lag, reliability, etc.
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: depends on your area.
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: so, it varies a lot?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: DSL is a constant speed, cable varies due to usage from other people on your node
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: cable in general gets slower by how many people are on the same hub.  DSL deteriorates by distance from the hub.
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: can't compare the speeds. dsl uses compression etc
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: hmmm... So I won't know unless I try?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Well, can't do a direct mb/sec comparison.
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: speed and reliability varies depending on your isp
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: ask people around your area which is faster.  Some markets have a clear winner for speed.  Most are relative.
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and you shouldn't care aboot the technical side at all
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Also, phone company for dsl.
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: rats... I don't know anyone here yet, except the guy I share my office with, who uses another cable company
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: in my country we have an excellent forum for information about pohone companies and isps, maybe you could google for a local one of those.
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Well, in my country we have crappy internet
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: we have patchy service coverage here, so forum where people can report probs and find out before they buy is a big help
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: guess I should look... I already signed up with the company that provides cable to my building, but it can be terminated any time... Only other alternative is dsl, probably with verizon
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: issit dsl or fios
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: looks like only dsl... I don't see any cables besides those
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: Is anyone here awake enough to help me with a mic problem?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: That's racist.  The Irish have as much right to be here as everyone else.
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: what kind of problem?
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: Well, for starters, I can't get it to record :S
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UHHHHELPER Valefar Tech: XP SP3, if that helps.
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: anyone knows how to find which files are available in a website directory that does not allow listing? i know only 1 file there, and it opens
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you don't have access (ftp, other file-level access, or access to someone with appropriate knowledge), and it doesn't allow listing, then brute force is your option
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: that would suck :) i won't get anything out of it then
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: perhaps that's why they set it up that way ;-)
T1/r7/2009-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: i'm sure of that hehehe
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: can someone please help me to connect my phone throu my pc ? I am vodacom and i bought a data bundle ?
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: please ?
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Asley, did you try googling it? I think there should be some good tutorials out there
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: dont you get it i cant go on the internet until i connect my phone thought the pc ?
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: How are you online right now?
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: im using my phone
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: So use your phone to open a web browser and go to google.com?
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=vodacom+phone+pc
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon goes, "Heh."
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: when i try to connect my phone it says te connection failed what does this mean ?
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Did you umm... google that error in conjunction with what you're trying to do?
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: TE connection failed
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Asley, did you open up a browser on your phone like I told you to and go to google.com?
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: i phoned a consultant and she activated my internet now im a set
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: i phoned a consultant and she activated my internet now im a set
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon claps at Asley's performance.
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: i phoned a consultant and she activated my internet now im all set
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: how mush hours can you be online with 5mb ?
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: ...? What?
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: get a download monitor
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: something that counts all activity on the connection, and find out if your ISP counts up and down or just down
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: no way to say how long 5mb will last, it all depends on what your doing
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maaloc Tech: is anyone on who uses the updated(ish) spellup plugin?
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maaloc Tech: is there anyone here who can answer a question about the mush spellup plugin?
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: ask, if someone can, they will
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maaloc Tech: well whenever i try to use the spellup block command (to be able to use prot good and inertial barrier) i get an error that says A nil value was passed to find_spellsn
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: hrm..I have the same issue. Which spellup plugin do you use, the one on gammons site ot another?
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: or*
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maaloc Tech: gammons
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maaloc Tech: well it's on gammons, but not entirely his... it's the updated one
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yeah, i borked it early on, download the new one from this report: http://code.google.com/p/bastmush/issues/detail?id=6
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: oh nice! Thanks Bast
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you are both using mine, so download that one
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maaloc Tech: woot :) yeah great great work!
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: worked! thanks again
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: no problem
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maaloc Tech: gah... i must have done something bad w/ the spellup plugin... i keep getting a message spamming Timer function "display_timer" not found or had a previous error.
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: that should be a reason enough
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maaloc Tech: everything is good now :) thanks gen
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: welcome
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maaloc Tech: spellup help
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maaloc Tech: whoops
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Skull raises his hand.
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skull Tech: anyone getting alot of unwanted popup adds nowadays ?
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: No, I avoid the internet.
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skull Tech: cool I will try that.
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: tried adblock plus?
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: popup adds?
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: although some people in the street tried giving me fliers.  Does that count as a pop-up?
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skull Tech: well the thing is, I have the Popup thing ON for the regular Internet Explorer, yet they still come in.
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: if you use Firefox with FlashBlock, it's not too bad.
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I had a free slice of pizza in my popup.
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: use the host file *rolls eyes*
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: did you try to lick the popup?
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Skull jumps on Rathik and ties his hands and feet together.
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Yes.
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: the host file thing doesn't block the popups, just blocks the content on them.
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Skull licks your popup. You like ?
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Skull sits on his waterbed and pats the spot beside him.
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i wonder why i dont have popups then
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: You don't use IE?
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: how does chromium handle popups?
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: no i dont want to use ie on wine. lol
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Chrome blocks popups pretty well on Windows and Linux in my experience.
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: GentooX: I don't notice any popups on my Chrome
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: although there still is no stable plugin support for linux.
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: good enough for me, i use chromium not chrome :)
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: so funny enough, if you apt-get chromium,  you wind up with a penguin space fighter game.
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: apt-get is lame
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: meh, we use Ubuntu at work.  It's not my choice.
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: it is outside of work
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Anyone know something I can do without having to buy anything.. to help my laptop cool better?
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryu Tech: Ice, lots of ice.
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: put it in the freezer!
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: I had it sitting on frozen peas earlier
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gundam Wing Tech: you can use something to elevate the bottom part of the back of your laptop
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: make sure it's elevated some to get air flow underneath.
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gundam Wing Tech: to ventilate it better
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: elevate the back part so its at like a 20 degree angle
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Blessed Balaam rapidly nods twice at Gundam Wing, in complete agreement.
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Wing, it's been elevated all day
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gundam Wing Tech: ><
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gundam Wing Tech: try scaling down the cpu
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: use compressed air to blow dust out, dust is a great insulator
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: turn the thing off for abit :P
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: I always have it elevated, and it usually doesn't happen this often.  But it's been overheating and shutting itself down today
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: are you a nonsmoker or is the laptop room heavily polluted with dust
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Fedraz, tried that a few times
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gundam Wing Tech: and yes, clean the laptop, fan might be dusty
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: I don't have any compressed air =(
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: if you're in a room with an airconditioner, get some tubing and connect to the AC and airintake on your lappy
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: use a clean vacuum cleaner blower
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: are you running anything graphics intensive? 
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: you could try removing your hard drive and getting ane xternal
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: hard drives can run hot and probably hotter in a laptop
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: I was playing a game earlier and it shut down.  Let it cool for about 3 hours, then it shut down after that while on google
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: if you're plugged in, remove the battery.  It will run without the heat of charging it.
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Stick it Inicus gasps as he realizes what Blessed Balaam did.
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: how do you know for sure ts even a cooling issue?
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Because it's getting really really hot?
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: put a box fan in front of it
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Stick it Inicus comforts Candor.
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Stick it Inicus slams his head on his desk in frustration.
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: play on an iphone
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: accumulated dust is often the cause of overheating -- and often the cause of the fans slowing down 
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Won't using compressed air just cause the dust to blow around to new places inside the laptop though?
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: is it a dell by chance?
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: and maybe the fans are wearing out with out without dust
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: It's a piece of crap hp
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gundam Wing snickers with Fedraz about their shared secret.
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: oh :( a dell you can pretty much take apart and clean...I dont know about hp
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: well most of the models anyway
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: I looked up stuff about taking it apart.  Just to get to the fan, I have to remove everything else
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gundam Wing Tech: just do it it takes like 20 mins
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: at least
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: I don't have compressed air to clean it once I take it apart though..
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: its not something you rush
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: you have a shop vac or an air pump ?
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: if you can get ot the fan you done need compressed air
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: when i use a strong industrial strength vaccum cleaner blower, dust goes flying -- but then i do that on an opened up desktop
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: those psu fans like to catch and collect a lot of dust
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: the battery idea was a good one. 
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Yeah, I took the battery out.. and it hasn't shut off yet =P
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyrir Tech: vacuuming electronics isn't the best idea.  It causes static buildup
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: is the battery hotter then normal?
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: not vacuuming, blowing 
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: The battery didn't feel hot
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: The battery is on the right side, and the only fan exhaust in on the back left side
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: That's pretty much where it gets hot
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: are you able to open up the case without breaking anything (including the warranty)
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: No idea
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: if you are not sure then dont risk it. I *believe* HP will not support you once you crack the case
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: plus its a real pain in the butt if you don't know what you are doing
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if you blow compressed air into the exhaust fan, that dust raised by the airflow is going to want to go somewhere, and preferably out and not further into the laptop
T1/r7/2009-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: he does not have the air and was trying to do it w/o spending cash I thought
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: anyone got the Aardwolf Client chat plugin window to log?
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Its a mudscript, how is it going to chop down trees
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: I don't follow?
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: the window should log notes
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And that is why you fail...
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: for zmud #alarm is in seconds right
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: write #alarm and press F1 and you'll get the help file for that command
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: on vista no help files :P
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduka Tech: you can actually download win32 help I think its called so you can view the helpfiles. You'll have to read a bit more about it but there is a way to restore being able to see the help files.
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: there's two ways to use #alarm 
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I think the helpfiles are all on the zmud site, as well
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: #alarm 12:00:00 {say Hello} <- will send a hello at noon every day 
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: #alarm *:5:00 {say hello} <- will send hello every five minutes
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduka Tech: as for help files on vista: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=6ebcfad9-d3f5-4365-8070-334cd175d4bb&DisplayLang=en
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: #alarm +10 {say hello} will send hello in 10 seconds
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i knew that im trying to shove an alarm off once a week
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: so i was trying to figure out if it was #alarm or %alarm that was in seconds
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: add a + before the time and you'll get seconds
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: #alarm +604800 {command} <- will fire a week from now
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: #alarm -604800 {command} <- will fire after the client has been online for a week
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Me Wantee Freggle Tech: wow thats great ... so i just make a trigger to gratulate someone on his /her bday, and make that a trigger to trigger next year ... 
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Way to take the sincerity out of it..
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: The word is congratulate :P
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: there should be an progratulate too
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Con means "with"
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I think if you want the oposite you'd be better off saying Singratulate
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: mother, is that you?
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: anybody here using Mudlet?
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darthsilas Tech: im using mush
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: Trying Mudlet out since I want to learn Lua, and scripting seems like fastest way to learn for me :P
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: does playing games like adventureqeust online suck my mbs ?
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: uou guys whois me and look at mt title wat am i doing wrong with my title i want colournote ?
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: you guys whois me and look at mt title wat am i doing wrong with my title i want colournote ?
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Read 'help color'
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: how do you use that for example tech :  hey ? 
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: hehe nevermind
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: where can i get premade triggers for mushclient ?
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: where can i get premade triggers for mushclient ?
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: The mushclient forums
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: where is that ?
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Google the word 'mushclient'
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: go to Aard site and goto the resourses page
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: when i use color for my title there is two spaces between my name and the title ?
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: You probably put a space after the @Y
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Just do title @YThe Light Of @RAardwolf
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: lol sorry and ty
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: No problem
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: must i type this in send at my trigger if %1 < 100 then
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: must i type this in send at my trigger if %1 < 100 then ColourNote ("white", "red", "Warning! - health is low")
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: what mud client guys you using ?
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alok Tech: is there anyone on that can help me with a zmud trigger problem?
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: if you want to set speedwalks how do you do it ?
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: what do you type at alias : and send: ?
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: ?
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: ? does someone care to help me please ?
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: ?
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: how do you set speedwalks ?
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: I don't know what cliet you're using, but I would assume at alias you put in the command you prefer to type (eg. tree)  and at send you put in the commands to be sent to the server (eg. en3s7ws)
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: how do i execute the speedwalk ?
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: how do i execute the speedwalk ?
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Check out 'help run' and 'help runto'
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: no but as a alias
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: type in whatever you specified as your alias
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Read 'help alias'? =/
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: do people se there alias of an area or the mob name problably the area yes ?
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: do people set there alias of an area or the mob name problably the area yes ?
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Well, instead of making aliases for each area.. you can just 'runto areaname'
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: I don't understand your syntax, please rephrase your question and try again...
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: And making speedwalks to each mob, would take quite a long time
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: oops i actually mean to rooms ?
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: then how do people sat there speedwalks to what the room or what ?
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: assuming they had such code, why would they givee up the advantage by telling all and sundry?
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: figure it out for yourself
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Holliday Tech: Asley you can map everywhere and write code that will run to a specific room on your maps
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Holliday Tech: or update your map with current location
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: Boom Boom Pow i just went Down Down Down
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: must i type this at my trigger : <*/*hp */*m */*mv */*xp> *
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: must i type this at my trigger : <*/*hp */*m */*mv */*xp> * ?
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Huh
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: What are you trying to make in your trigger?
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: im using mushclient im  trying t o make an alarm 
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Hah
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Mis =(
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: like this if %1 < 100 then
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: like this if %1 < 100 then ColourNote ("white", "red", "Warning! - health is low")
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: And what seems to be the problem?
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: it doesnt work where am i going wrong ?
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: what language are you scripting in?
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: lau
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: so where am i going wrong
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: so where am i going wrong ???
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: if %1 < 100 then
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: if %1 < 100 then ColourNote ("white", "red", "Warning! - health is low")
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: if %1 < 100 then ColourNote ("white", "red", "Warning! - health is low") what am i doing wrong with this trigger ?
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: what is the whole trigger?
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Asley - take it in steps. Does your ColourNote staement work by itself? Can you make your condition do some other function? Break the problem down.
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shepard Tech: is there a campaign plugin for mushclient?
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: campaign plugin ?
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: got a thing i want to get coded in mushclient. give me a tell if anyone intressted. if you help me to fix this you will have 5 tps guaranted.
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: easy tps for a decent scripter
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: how long have you been trying to get other people to write your code?
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: rtfm and do it yourself
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: its called outsourcing
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: in zmud how would you subtract time from the %time command say i like wanted to make a var with todays date - 7 days
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: when i use imediate for my trigger it works when im in combat it doesnt ? any suggestions
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: Yes, here's a suggestion- please learn the concept of compound sentences
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: how do you install a pugin ?
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: how do you install a pugin ?\
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: how do you install a pugin ?\
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: how do you install a pugin ?\
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: how do you install a pugin ?
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: sorry
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Not by spamming, apparently.
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: way to spam
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: im sorry but can someone please help me ?
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: nfc, don't use mush
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: mebbe one of the smartasses abusing you about a typo can help :P
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus snickers with Iron Duck Chuft about their shared secret.
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Do you have an xml file Asley?
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darthsilas Tech: wats rong with mush?
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: it's an inferior client for my purposes
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: im using mush ?
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: nfc ?
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darthsilas Tech: maybe
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: note for chuft
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: okay so do you guys know how ?
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Do you have an xml file?
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: what is it and where can i find it ?
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: that's a yes or no question, what format is this plugin that you have.....
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" ?> 
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Great, I think all you need to do is drag that file into the plugins folder
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: then perhaps go to file/plugins to enable it
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: the plugins folder will be inside the mush directory somewhere in the aardwolf folder
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: how do you drag it ?
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: open plugins folder mushclient/worlds/plugins/aardwolf
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: open the folder with the xml file and just click and drag from one to the other
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: but it is not a file go to this http://www.mushclient.com/plugins/Level_Timer.xml
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: I've never installed a plugin before btw....it just seems to me this must be how to do it
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: save that page in .xml format to a location you can find easily
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: in the browser go to file/save as/  then change the type to xml
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: oh comon how do i save it ?
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: see above
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: mmm i save but nothing is happening ?
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: Why do you add question marks to statements?
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: what do you mean nothing is happening?
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: In fact you can skip a step and save it as .xml file directly into your MUSH plugins folder
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: oh okay i see it lie there in aardwolf at plugins but if i go to file/plugins it doesnt show there ?
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: nods, click 'add', then select that plugin
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: nts gregor smarty
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ser Gregor grins evilly.
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: I'm just amazed you can understand that, Gregor
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: i though it stands for nts= note to self ?
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: I understand bad grammar, I don't understand insolence.
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: anyone know of a free decent typing program to help someone type faster?
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: there's a facebook application called typing maniac, that's fun
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: its not for me the person who wants it does not have a facebook
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: www.downloads.com, type in 'typing tutor', check some of them out
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyrir Tech: How can you change the text that goes to the main window in MushClient?  I want to have chat text only appear in the chats window.
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: you have to mess with the tags I imagine
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: Lots of Drupal geeks idling here? :P
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus has droopy manboobs if that counts!
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyrir Tech: I'm noticing that channel messages are prefixed with {chan ch=channelname}.  Is there a way to show that raw output in the mush client?
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderchief Tech: is there a mud client for Mac that offers MCCP?
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: tintin++
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're a typical Mac user, I'd suggest running MUSHclient under parallels, fusion, darwine, etc
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're more on the geeky side, then tintin++ or tinyfugue natively
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyrir Tech: I'll have to try that. I've been running mushclint in wine
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUSHclient in wine is better for most Mac users...
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just remember to turn off the aardwolf_help plugin
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderchief Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyrir Tech: I've been fiddling with redirecting chats to the 'chats' window in mushclient for an hour, and just realized there is a pre-installed plugin that is controlling it all. :/
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: umm, yeah
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyrir Tech: Yeah, well, someone should have mentioned that when I first asked how to redirect chat to the chats window. :p
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's a nice FAQ and plugin info on the aard page where you got MUSHclient...they do answer the question on how to have chats text no longer appear in both places
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/play/plugins.htm and http://www.aardwolf.com/play/clientfaq.htm
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyrir Tech: That would have been helpful
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyrir Tech: That would have been helpful. However, I didn't realize there even was a plugin. I just edited the plugin to not redirect tells and says.
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, that's why they put it right next to the link where you got the program
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: there is a skill to getting folk to read important information when most folk are already habituated to skip past drivel posted by boring writers
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: right...
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, you do have a knack for getting people habituated to skip past stuff...
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: disguising important information to look like drivel is not a good educational technique
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and disguising drivel to look like important information is an even worse technique
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: although drivel is able to be an art form -- recently came across a classic example (claninfo note 1402) -- saved that 'gem' to hdisk
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenar Tech: Some among us are masters of that art.
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: hey Xyliz...remember that time you said something worth reading?? 
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: oh wait..hasn't happened yet
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: is there a way to comment out items in an alias or trigger in cmud?
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: tried "//"?
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: erm... 
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: forward slashes (x2)
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: //
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: it wont lemme type them
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: click the computer icon at the bottom to turn off parsing, then try ;-)
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: use // to comment
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: nopers aard no likey them somehow
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Uh, // comments lines... :P
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: And they appear just fine for me.
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: (And yes, I use CMUD)
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: liath, they're showing up fine
T1/r7/2009-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Not sure what you're seeing there, Liath, but we're seeing the two forward slashes.
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: how do you turn autologin off in zmud
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: it's somewhere in Preferences.  I think in the section dealing with proxies and stuff
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Quiet Riot Tech: ok i have a 1.5 gig pent4 with 2 gigs of ram and 5200 fx 256 geforce card can someone help me out my movies and streams are slow im running verizon fios for net but im still lagging 
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Quiet Riot Tech: plus i just did a complete reinstall of windows xp and all drivers any ideas?
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Define "movies and streams"
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Quiet Riot Tech: i know the  pent4 is old but ive never had this issue before and im not running intagrated graphics
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: hmm i have a p4 not that low a clock but you shouldn't be having that much difficulty i'd think
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Quiet Riot Tech: thats what im saying with a  256 ddr pci graphics card  movies should look and run smooth
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Depends on the type of movie. 
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Quiet Riot Tech: maybe im missing codecs?
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: if you were they wouldn't play at all.
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Although, updated codecs could possibly help, depending on the type of movie.
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Quiet Riot Tech: ill try the codecs and see if maybe my comp is just playing stupid but even youtube is laggy which makes no sense
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: If its youtube, its probably either a problem with your internet speed, or theirs.
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Are you on wireless?
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Quiet Riot Tech: no hard wired
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: what speed
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Quiet Riot Tech: verizon fios 20/5 fiberoptic
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I meant more lan speed, but, alright. You actually run any speed tests?
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Quiet Riot Tech: my connection blows roadrunner away
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Quiet Riot Tech: ya im like 15 megs download and about 10 upload on speakeasy.net
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Your not comparing apples to apples with that, but alright.
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You running any other downloads? torrents, p2p programs, etc?
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Quiet Riot Tech: nope
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Personally I've always noticed youtube to be fairly laggy, its hit or miss
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Quiet Riot Tech: IE and on youtube and motions are laggy as crap
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Is it limited to youtube? or everything
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Quiet Riot Tech: everything
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Even things played from the computer locally?
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Quiet Riot Tech: wmp and winamp both laggy video play aswell
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Locally though, not from streams
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Quiet Riot Tech: yeah i have music videos ive played on a 1.0 and 128 ram no graphics card
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Quiet Riot Tech: 1.0 pent proc
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: you said you were running xp? or vista
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Quiet Riot Tech: xp home
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Quiet Riot Tech: dont like vista never will
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It has its place.
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Quiet Riot Tech: yeah the trash bin or a nice paperwieght
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Quiet Riot Tech: lol:P
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You don't sound like you know a whole lot about computers, so its not really your place to speak poorly about an operating system.
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Quiet Riot Tech: well i do know alot about computers but im stumped here
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Quiet Riot Tech: never had this issue with a fresh reformat and reinstall of drivers
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You installed current drivers for the vid card you said?
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Quiet Riot Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i run into same problem a while back with codecs issues.
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Quiet Riot Tech: maybe refresh rate of the monitor is to high?
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: have you checked your codecs?
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Unlikely.
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Quiet Riot Tech: Your PC currently has the latest driver installed for your GPU. No driver update is necessary at this time.
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Quiet Riot Tech: thats for my nvidia drivers
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Might try and see if you cant find a slightly older driver, if you've never had the problem before
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Quiet Riot Tech: worth a shot
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Codec issue seems unlikely, especially if you're running in to it on youtube, as well as other things.
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You might also take a peak at your cpu/memory usage when you try and play back a file... see if either is pegged at 100%
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: technically yes coz, he only have problems with videos
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yes Gentoo, but its unlikely its a specific codec if hes running in to problems from multiple video sources.
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gundam Wing Tech: what do you mean by videos? you mean flash videos? or videos in general? e.g. what happens when you play an avi file
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Quiet Riot Tech: well games but thats due to small proc
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Quiet Riot Tech: runescape even lags.....
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Quiet Riot Tech: gf plays that and was complaining about it
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: video card issue...
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Quiet Riot Tech: looking for older drivers now
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: newest is not always the best
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Might try updating DirectX stuff as well.
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: or rolling back, as appropriate.
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Quiet Riot Tech: i have directx 9
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Quiet Riot Tech: hmm let me check on that to
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Quiet Riot Tech: i dont remember installing that
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Thats more likely to affect runescape then the videos, but its worth peaking at
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Im only assuming runescape runs on dx
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Quiet Riot Tech: installing be back after restart also redoing directx
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: kk
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: whats another good browser besides firefox?
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: google chrome?
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i seen a browser released by w3 too
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Chrome sucks. :P
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: for security and graphics that'd be it
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: some people like opera. But I still prefer Firefox by far to the others i've used
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods at Daloran.
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: so chrome isin't as good as the fox?
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Its not to my liking, no.
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: ah ok
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Quiet Riot Tech: ok so heres the rundown...i installed latest directx, downgraded my nvidia drivers to what were said to be the best ones for the card, and i also installed windows xp codec pack and still laggy....
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Quiet Riot Tech: im thinking either the graphics card is going or the computer is just a pile of garbage
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hun Tech: hi guys any help to how to create macros on mushclient?
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umbre Tombetoile Tech: does someone know where windows xp put downloaded update before installation
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umbre Tombetoile Tech: (in which directories ?)
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What is the best and easiest way to split an APE-file (with cue-file) into individual track?
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: (APE-file rip of a CD)
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: shntool
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Littleman Tech: any mushcleint script writers up here?
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: just ask the question
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Littleman Tech: well, kinda looking for someone to write a script.
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir patiently twiddles his thumbs.
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: is there a "note" type of command, that is a comman that does not sen anything to the mud but to the client (user) in the aardmush-client. 
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: maybe echo?
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: that is what i am looking for, might be, i'll give it a try
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xistric Tech: any one know how to make font bigger
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: in what?
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xistric Tech: i am use mushclient
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: game -> configure -> output
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: click font button and pick the one you want
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xistric Tech: much better thank you
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: welcome
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Genocyde Tech: when talking about mushclient440 how do I make all the extra windows like in the older version map/stats/othercoolstuff??!?
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Genocyde Tech: not everybody at once now
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Shepard growls.
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: not sure I follow what you want
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: Is there a way to make Mushclient see yells?
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: -j
T1/r7/2009-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: Anyone know?
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rithlin Tech: zMud question: How do I change the number of lines to capture to scroll back to check out things?
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Under Preferences, Sessions, Window or Logging, I think.
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rithlin Tech: K, I'll look.
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranald Tech: in cmud, which should be similiar to zmud, preferences->session->scrollback
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rithlin Tech: Not seeing a session tab....
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranald Tech: well which ones do you see?
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Check under General.
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: General/Windows, I think.
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rithlin Tech: Ahh found it.
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rithlin Tech: Under Memory.
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Under Memory. Whoops.
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Yeah. Had to pull up my zMUD to find it... :\
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rithlin Tech: Thanks.
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: i have mine set to 10000
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: does anyone know where I could find a script to track the moon cycles for the mush client?
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: is there a shared script that calculates total stats of items on identify/auc etc for zmud?
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: wtf? it seems that regex \w is not working correctly with zmud :\
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: \w works for me
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: well, with ^\|\s(\w)\s.*? %1 is only the first letter for me. trying to write an id script
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: actually, it doesn't match anything right now. changed something :\
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: ^\|\s(\a+)\s... perhaps?
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Genocyde Tech: does neone use mushcient 440?
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hm? \a as alarm? not even sure how it works
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: \a is a-zA-Z
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ok. i'm using some cheat sheet as a reference. prolly not exactly what zmud eats
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: you want to match "| a asdfasdf"?
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: \a = a-zA-Z \w = a-zA-Z0-9
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: and if you want to match more than one letter (or 0-9) remember the + as (\w+) or (\a+)
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: ^\|\s(\w+)\s.*
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chosig goes to take a nap now.
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: does anyone use the norton removal tool on a regular basis here?
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Little Alhena Tech: Quick question - got an USB HDD on an NTFS partition, one of the directories is unreachable - XP's checkdisk tool doesn't want to check, saying it's already locked by an other program (nothing running), can't figure how to checkdisk at reboot an USB HDD - any idea ?
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: does your BIOS support booting from USB? Also does the error message give any additional details?
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: maybe try booting in safe mode?
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Little Alhena Tech: no additional details, and the HDD has no OS - dunno how USB booting would help ?
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Little Alhena Tech: hrm, newbie me - i'll try from safe mode, indeed
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: i've found that windows itself sometimes locks up stuff, and safe mode is the only way around it
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: sorry, misread that, thought you were trying to boot from usb
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Little Alhena Tech: many thanks - will try that
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a great set of utilities for all things windows is "sysinternals"...microsoft now hosts it at their technet site (http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/default.aspx)
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: i'm gonna dl that right now and stick it on my utilities thumb drive, thanks
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a set of tinkertools that really can give you engineer-level access to your OS & filesystem...one of the tools is "handle" that shows what files are open by which processes
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: does it let you change stuff? or simply see what's going on?
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: kane, depends on which tool & how you call it
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: KaneBlendend nods.
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: just wondering
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for handle, you can close the handle using the hex#...but as with all tools like that, make sure you know what you're doing ;-)
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: don't understand how multiline triggers work in zmud. trying to match the last line of identify
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: read the help on conditionals, what you're looking for is a "within lines" parameter
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ^\+\-+\+$\n^$ is obviously not the right aswer
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: there is an option for the list of firing states
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: eh, it supports perl regexps, but not as good with those as I should be
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I just used a within lines to look for the --- pattern
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i always wondered do you put a #cond inside the trigger you want it to fire off of??
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I could send you my script for pointcounting on id
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: with output of the form "Stats for + A Baby Knight's Booties+: Level: 1 . Str: 1 | Luck: 3 | DR: 6 | Total Points 7."
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: should give you all the trigger details you need
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ok, thanks. managed to put together a sloppy solution
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nobody want's to share their own id script with me :(
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it sucks to count the stats on sh eq. especially if it's raided
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: id script?
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: got a working sloppy solution now. nothing better to do at work anyway :P
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: powerup, damn allies anyway!
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft cracks a bullwhip menacingly. 
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: pup? i demand a drag
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: in wyrm collecting souls
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir sighs.
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i think i've fried my little brain. how can i reset a string list?
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: #unvar, then recreate
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: a hack, but it works
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: without any echoes etc
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: this for your id script?
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir nods.
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: use dbkey instead
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: about the best zmud can do for a decent data structure,without sql and external dbs
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: dbkey? can't find it in the reference :\
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: been awhile but could you not put it in a group and then reset the group?
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: reset doesn't seem to be working like it should. also, it gives an echo
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: how aboot setting the var to the default value?
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: this really is a headache
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: just trying to do a simple thing without nuking the keys one by one
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: I thought that is what reset does.. could just make a copy that you manipulate and keep original at default
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: reset gives an ugly echo and doesn't seem to be working :\
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I suggest a letterbomb to zugg
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: cmud sucks less, maybe?
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: nope, still zugg's dodgy coding :P
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: and terrible documentation
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: . o O (  ) Habasi goes, "Heh."
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: seriously considering moving to mush, but i'd have to rewrite all my scripts :\
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: no maps in mush ;)
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: don't have anything mapped. just my stoner memory
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: well, if you gimme your email I can send you this script
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hmm. can i make zscript print spaces after expanded vars?
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i mean HOW can i make it happen
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Anyone use gnome-do here?
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: using launchy
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Why do you think that's better?
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i don't. been using it for a while and it doesn't lack anything i need and works great
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Hm, OK.
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Will look into that. I like gnome-do but I only have 0.4, not sure how to compile 0.8 ... might see if Launchy is nice :)
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i don't even know if it's multiplatform
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Launchy is for which OS? :P
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's multiplatform
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir nods quietly to himself.  What a wacko.
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dorzo Tech: um i need help
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: damn. is there something i can use in zmud script that would print a space instead of ignoring one?
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dorzo Tech: i need help
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir bonks Dorzo on the head for being such an UTTER moron.
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: do we have to guess?
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: A bit of a better welcome would be preferred, Dagnir :P
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dorzo Tech: i have just put aardwolf on my pc but i used my cel phone to get on internet to download it.
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Good for you, Dorzo. Did you need help with something? :)
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Most of the people aren't very newbie-friendly here, so you have to put on your crash helmet ;)
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dorzo Tech: yes nw that it on my pc do i stil need bytes?
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dorzo Tech: ?
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: I'm not sure what you mean, Dorzo... if you've downloaded a client onto your PC, you'll need the PC to connect to the internet to play the game.
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dorzo Tech: but wl it stil take bytes of my phone?
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: Not if it has it's own internet connection, no
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Since you don't have internet, and you're connecting through your phone, yes :)
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: So essentially the phone is your modem now. :) I do that sometimes when there's no Wi-Fi.
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dorzo Tech: no! Then i cant use aardwolf on my pc:(
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: Oh!  OK, I misunderstood the problem, sorry
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dorzo Tech: meaning
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you're not making sense. start with explanation of what you're trying to do. you know, the bigger picture, not bytes
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dorzo Tech: ok i dont have internet on pc but aardwolf is installed on it can i go on?
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you answered your own question
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: No.  If your PC is completely cut off from the internet, it cannot connect to Aardwolf.  
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if no webbrowsers on the pc, use a mudclient or telnet
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dorzo Tech: ok but iv got 10 mb on my phone so if i conect my phone to the pc can i go on?
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: I think so, but I have no experience in doing that, so I can't say for sure.  Logically, it sounds like it should work.
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dorzo Tech: but its gana take bytes of my phone isint it
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, you can use a cell phone as a modem for the PC...how to do it varies widely...if both cell and computer have bluetooth, you can use bluetooth network
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it works. but can't help you with that since we have no idea what your rig is
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yep, Dorzo. It takes the byte limit from your phone.
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, it will transfer data
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: some phones can do it through USB, still others need a special serial cable
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: By bytes, do you mean physical space, or the connection speed?
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: he means bandwidth
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dorzo Tech: ok u sed sumthen about a blue tooth
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: As I understand it the question is, Dorzo's got a usage limit on his mobile broadband. (Don't get into gender specifics, please. :P) Since he's using his phone as a modem now, but is playing Aard on his computer, he wants to know if the data transferred will be counted against his quota.
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: of course it will
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, the data is transferred using the phone, so it'll be charged to the phone
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Which is why I've been saying yes all along :P
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Dorzo - you'll have to be careful if you only have 10MB data, it's going to be hard to connect to Aardwolf 27 hours a day for the whole 50-day month.
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien looks around and whistles innocently.
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dorzo Tech: im gana go showa then il ask for more help
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Take your time with that shower :)
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien looks around and whistles innocently.
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for estimation, my logfiles for the month of july take up 293 MBs, connected 24/7 :-)
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dorzo Tech: im back
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And I'm front.
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Together, we make a whole person
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dorzo Tech: hahaha
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dorzo Tech: ok is it posible for a person 2 play aardwolf withowt internet on his pc. Free of charge
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Uh...
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: you can not play Aard without an internet connection of some kind
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dorzo Tech: ok wich kind is there?
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: it varies by location
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dorzo Tech: ok explain all with d tail i dont know much about pc im 15 and got my first pc 2 mounts ago
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you mean horses?
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: please take the time to spell words correctly ans I will try and help you
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: other than borrowing wifi from a neighbor or a metropolitan system, pretty much any other access method will have a cost involved...whether using it increases your already-current cost or not depends on your plans
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: detail. He cant spell. Or his messing with you, his connected to Aard isnt he?
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: and*
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: using your phone, the cost would depend on whether your data plan has extra costs/restrictions, or is unlimited
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: The best thing to do in that case is buy a data bundle. Its fairly cheap, way cheaper than without one
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're using mxit now, understand that mxit is using the same data plan that Internet through your phone uses
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dorzo Tech: data bundle what is that?
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's the cell phone plan
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Although Mxit uses way less data since it connects via socket and not gprs 
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Pre-paid internet basically. Im on vodacom, i buy roughly 150mb for R139.
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gprs vs socket aren't talking about the same thing, really
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dorzo Tech: what the cheapest bundle i can buy?
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on the cell phone service provider
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: What network are you?
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dorzo Tech: mtn
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Fail. I dont know MTN very well, why dont you call the servic department and ask them about it? But really, switch to Virgin. Its 50c a mb with them, vodacom R2 a mb
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dorzo Tech: o ok and some 1 sed sumthen bowt blue tooth conection?
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No, Nobody sed anything
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dorzo Tech: i swear they did before i went to shower they did
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: He said WiFi, where do you live? thats only around in Jozi, unless your neighbours running a wireless connection. But then you might have to hack it
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bluetooth is just a way to connect your PC to your phone...it doesn't change how you'd be charged
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dorzo Tech: hack hehe id love 2 how do u do that?;)
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: both your phone and your PC need bluetooth
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: YOu get plenty WiFi crackers. Its pretty easy, why dont you first see if you pc is even WiFi enabled? Mainly only laptops are
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: I used to sit at Stellenbosch uni and hack thier WiFi...
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: on the PC, pair it with your phone using the provided bluetooth software...when you pair it, it'll ask your phone what "services" the phone provides
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: aircrack ng suite? this guy can't even spell
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you need your laptop running linux with at least 2 wifi cards with specific chips and firmare to do it properly
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Also not something we should be discussing on tech, as it is illegal to break in to someone elses wifi.
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: BS, its a simple password crack. You dont need to blow it open
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so? it's not illegal to crack my own
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Its not, however it was advocated he steal a neighbors wifi.
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: didn't notice that
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Legal aslong as theres no malicious intent involved. Hacking is perfectly legal, so long as you attempt to pull a white hat and do not access personal information. Several years ago the EFF argued that a home PC does not qualify as personal info and won the case
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No Thrall, its not.
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: thraal, not in the least
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: thraal, throw me link or something that explains it to me. i'm having a hard time believing you that's it's so simple nowdays
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: way to totally miss what the ruling actually was
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: last time i wardrived was 2 years ago
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: now jumping onto an UNprotected network is another matter entirely
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: No idea what the link is. Mite be bull, but i was let off with a warning on those grounds.
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dorzo Tech: damn that sounds like a mission can u do it for me(G)
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i smell bullshit
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but password cracking is malicious intent just on principle
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: if it was legal, you would not have received a warning.
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: wow, wifi is so insecure if the password crack is simple -- as though those designing wifi wanted wifi to be insecure (rack up extra revenues?)
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no it's not abe.
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: xyliz, WEP is unsecure, yes
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: No Dorzo, thats beside the point of the arguement. The basic arguement is that hacking is a totally different thing as cracking
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what if i crack my neighbours wifi and then promptly let him know that they shouldn't use wep?
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: still illegal
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Its a matter of curiosity. 
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Hacking and cracking are different, however unauthorized access of a wireless network is still illegal.
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it was still bad because you didn't have to crack it to help him
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: could be illegal. didn't stop me
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Perfectly legal Dagnir, you can even charge him a fee.
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can see that it's wep before cracking it
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: not legally safe to do that
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: didn't say it would, but the law would be sarcastic if your neighbour were a dick and reported you anyway
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Its viewed as goos because you are pointing out a security flaw to him
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: prolly not. i'm just using common sense, not blindly abiding the laws
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: take l0phtcrack...they created it *AFTER* telling Microsoft repeatedly to close the loophole
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: are yall arguing basically the difference between a black hat and a white hat?
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: that does not fly Thraal
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir nods at Ageha.
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Damm right Ageha
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: no, I have no interest in arguing childish definitions with script kiddies
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: stupid arguements
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Its a common one Ageha
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: the only legal hackign is when a company or person that owns the device asks you to
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: correct
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: like robert redford! ;-)
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: True
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: even if you hack for a purpose of telling hte person later with out permission they are able to file charges
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: people who have trouble spelling basic words , yet talk about "hacking", are always good for a giggle
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: trust me i know
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: but you cant be charged for pulling a white hack
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: I thought a hack was a once off solutiion to a unique problem
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: Thraal...yes you can
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I thought a hack was a crappy writer!
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: chuft omg yes lets bitch at my for a typo
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Accessing a network without permission is illegal. Hows that?
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: I can be both Abe
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: i pressed the g before the n omg someone call the typo police
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: I disagree, if you inform the company directly after the hack, eg where nothing was viewed or harmed in any which way, its unchargeable
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: naturally, thrall, the law is the same everywhere and everyone else is wrong, now why didn't I think of that?
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: you can disagree all you want, you are still wrong
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Actually, it is.
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: hurry get him before he runs back into his cave
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you got a warning for performing a legal act...
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: of course it is, computer security and intrustion is a matter of international law, how silly of me
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it never happened, abe :P
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: some jurisdictions may view the hack actions as informative, while others may view the hack as extremely illegal  (may depend on whether a fix is possible)
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Typo's mean nothing. Look at Bulgaria, the goverment tried to start a second  silicon valley. 
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cain killd Abelinc got a warning for driving the speed limit
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: depends mainly on if you're in a society that profits greatly from IT or not
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: like in some countries you can do whatever oyu want on the net
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: yeah drive by the Pentagon and try it
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: noplace can you legally do whatever you want on the Net
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: sealand, abe
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: No, its like being caught at the speed limit. Its illegal to drive at the stated speed limit, yet they cant fine you because the stated speed limit is your current speed
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 6-month-old kiddy porn
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: when your understanding of the issues involves extends further than running some dodgy downloaded code that claims to do the work for you, feel free to write back
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if the wifi flaw is hardcoded, and there is no simple fix, then hacking wifi is likely to be viewed as illegal since the only fix is to not use wifi
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dorzo Tech: um thanks
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Wow, first time I've had to scroll back on tech in a while.
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: But if they password protect the WiFi and the password is hacked....
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: that's probably the vulnerability right there, since they gotta verify themself to their router
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: you can lace your house with tinfoil
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I can think offhand of at least 5 commonly used wifi encryption methods, if they use wep then they are dumbasses anyway
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Just because they're dumb, doesn't make it legal.
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they may have some old 11b hardware that doesn't allow for anything newer than WEP
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: There was a new encryption released a few weeks ago, cant remember exactly. Read about it on Engadget
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: at nopoint have I claimed it was  legal..rather the opposite
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: long story short, stay off of other peoples junk
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or ask your neighbors for permission :-)
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dorzo Tech: cherz
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Exactly, then you could go to the person and report the issue. Is that illegal?
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yes. =p
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: yes, if theypress charges
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: report the issue withOUT exploiting it
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: even if they don't, of course, but it's only relevant if the pursue it
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't have to hack their network to tell them that using wep sucks
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Or simply ask them if you can use their wireless network. They may share their key with you, which makes it easier for everyone!
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: this is not complicated. If it does not belong to you or you do not have permission..do not use it
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Look, i think i missed my point along the line. Basically, i meant if you report a security flaw with a solution (eg a white hack) the company wont charge you.
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: we understand you fine
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: you are still wrong
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: quite aside from the legal issues, cracking some noddy's domestic net is just lame
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Thraal mumbles something that ounds like free internet
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Its possible they might opt not to charge you - however, there is no assurance of that.
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Thraal mumbles something that sounds like free internet
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: its possible they wont go after you but they can
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: best to just post to securityfocus and let them fix it themself
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: if you're such a good hacker, get a job instead
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: they get paid by the second, might as well make them work once a day
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: many companies will not go after you becauase they would rather you take the exploit to them instead of the black market
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: There is, if they charge you the solution is legally not allowed being used by them. THats your assurance. Not a single white hat hacker has EVER been charged
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: but that has nothing to do with law
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: that's no longer true, fedraz
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: I do IT forensics. I actually do get paid to hack
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: perhaps in the 90s..but there a lot of trained quite legal network security professionals now
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Thraal looks at Chuft and raises his hand
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: and they will pursue people using scripts they didn't write..what could those people possibly tell them of use?
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, your mom giving you $20 to put a password on her wifi isn't doing IT forensics
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Breaking into your own system to make sure there are no flaws shouldn't be a crime, but breaking into others' systems isn't allowed, is it?
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Good one, Abe.
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: what was I wrong about Chuft
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Ouch, Abe, ouch.
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it's not tru
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: The law has changed very drastically. For instance, it used to be illegal to encrypt your online doings 
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: just about the way times have changed since the early 90s, fedraz
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You boggle at Thraal.
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: that did used to be common..it isn't now
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: No Abe, that isnt IT forensics. I mainly do copyright violations, but every so often a company calls me and asked to to find out how they got hacked.
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: of course they do
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: And dont argue with that Abe, Encryption was labelled as a munition of waer
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: And dont argue with that Abe, Encryption was labelled as a munition of war
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: when was encrypting online doings ever at any stage illegal
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Only for the purposes of export, Thraal.
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: companies often call 14 year olds to reverse engineer attack vectors
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: oh, here is an example of white hats getting prosecuted...the MIT kids who found a way to  do something w/ the fare cards we gone after I believe
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: And then, the DoD sued a college student for writing a paper that could decrypt thier standard 12 encryption. The EFF handled his case and won, its labelled as freedom of speach. After that the entire law was dissembled
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: were*
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Fedraz: I heard they were offered a job after that whole incident
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: likely, cause it blew up in bostons face
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: if you were a successful security agent, why are you peing paid $20 by your mother to password her wifi? why are you living at home?
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Im doing neither...
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: usually get paid about 3 times that an hour at entry level
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Thraal tuts at Chuft
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Why do American insults always involve mothers?
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: in 0, when I started doing security consulting in nyc, they paid 45 an hour, and I didn't even have a compsci degree then, just a physics one
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: There are some that involve sisters, I think.
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Not this side, its a pretty small field in South Africa. I get paid roughly R450 an hour, the company i work for charges around R800 and hour. SO yes, the company gets that kinda cash
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Rathik: who most likely eventually become mothers *stretch*
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: heh, I did my ccna with a guy from south africa, he seemed to be decently paid, too
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Trurien, no idea.
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Hmm, good point.
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Depends on his field, IT architects get paid MUCH more than us
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: general system admin for a small company, and no, coders don't get paid more generally unless they are games programmers or something
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: or I'd do that instead :P
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: And $50 and hour is decently paid. Iit translates into roughly R80k a month, and we all work over time
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: No no... the going rate for an IT architect in South Africa nowadays is around R900 an hour
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: so move to a different commonwealth country?
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: and the high prices they are paid may indirectly contribute to crappy systems, since the IT firms may prefer to cut costs and go with hastily designed systems
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: if you're qualified and have a degree, you'd certainly have no issues going to England as a commonwealth citizen
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Right... No, i wouldnt do that. South Africa's my home. We have allot of pride over this pice o' junk land. You rarely see people immegrate permanantly from SOuth Africa
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: All immegrations to England was suspended
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: heh, well, I met the guy in England..oviously, being English, shrug
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Interesting. About time this got shifted to debate :P
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: general advice relating to a technical career is not off topic for this channel
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Was he afrikaans? The english South Africans arnt accepted as South Africans really.
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: doesnt south africa have alot of french people?
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: More dutch really. And german. Not many french
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: (ungrateful) immigrants (unused to the english lifestyle) caused too many race riots in England (?)
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: No Xyliz, actually it was too easy to forge a visa
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: his family had all emigrated, not sure about background or subtype
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: he was in the ta and has just been deployed, though
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: so probably pretty English, though any commonwealth citizen can join the uk armed forces, so not sure there
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: even as a white, living in England likely sucks {too many thought-police in England} (from a Canadian perspective)  
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: so whos rocking out tintin++
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: See, english South Africans are viewed with disdain. The derogatory name is souties, and im sure explaining the meaning isnt allowd here
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Using it, but not rocking it out. I'm connecting to it via SSH, so unless I -X I can't spawn extra windows ... and I haven't got used to #prompt yet.
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: is it like carpet baggers?
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fedraz Tech: or tea baggers
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: tintin++ is powerful once you get to play with it
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: carpet baggers is nothing like tea baggers?
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Carpet Bangers? no no... The meaing is basically that they have one leg in Europe and one in SA and something hangs in the ocean. Sout means salt in afrikaans
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: no carpet bagger was term used by the south to refer to the northern people that moved to the south to build factories
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: If your really curious turn on curse
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: It was? wow... I dont know that one. And i know em all, you sure its not the other way around?
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: pretty sure on this lets find out
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: sorry not to build factories jsut northerners that moved south after civil war http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpetbagger
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Ah Rhodesians, we actually have a different name for them. Carpet Baggers isnt used today, maybe it was in the past
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: yeah it was aroudn the civil war era carpetbaggers was used in the USA
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Civil War? we havnt had a civil war. America has though?
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: We had apartheid, which ended roughly 30 years ago
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: see chuft there i go again pressing one key slightly faster then another resulting in aroudn not around
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: yeah america has
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: the whole fight to unify the states
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Then its an american degrogatory term, i wouldnt know it sorry
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: is that responsible for the grammar and punctuation, too? or did you find something else to blame for that?
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: punctuation is over rated and grammar is for the english
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Where abouts are you from Ageha?
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: usa
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: in post civil war USA, (exploitive) businessmen from the north used to carry carpet-bags (bags produced from carpet-looking material) 
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Then arnt you english?
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: nope irish 1st gen in america
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Ah wicked, i was born on St Patricks Day :P spent my birth day there two years ago
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fedraz throws a potato at Ageha
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: But yes, its time to climb off tech
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: yeah i need to go back to ireland i miss seeing my relatives
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: so is anyone interested in a paper on Direct Activation of Sparse, Distributed Populations of Cortical Neurons by Electrical Microstimulation
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cain killd Abelinc attaches jumper cables to Ageha's ears
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: basically its another step towards computers reading the brain better
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, sorry, I misread that
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: back :-)
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: just saying come on cyborgs
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: wow tech channel really died after the debate on the legal issues of hacking
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you can keep talking
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: i figured but mostly i am just reading articles 
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cain killd Abelinc reads "an" and "the"
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: wonder why ebay is selling skype off
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduka Tech: anyone happen to know a decent runtime enviroment for testing lua scripts?
T1/r7/2009-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: erm...  Lua itself?  Or the client.
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bed Bug Xandros Tech: In my zmud preferences my mccp is enabled but the mud says I don't have compression enabled. Any ideas?
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: sorry no zmud exp check thier forums for similar problems? i know alot of aard people use zmud
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bed Bug Xandros Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: sorry cant be of more help
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dorzo Tech: ok iv got aardwolf on my mxit how do i unsibscribe
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dorzo Tech: ply leave me a tel on ur awnser
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tainted Tallimos Tech: which one of you guys is amazing at figuring out zmud problems? :P
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maaloc Tech: i solved all my zmud problems when i downloaded mush :)
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tainted Tallimos Tech: heh
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: odds are best when you ask the question to the group...combined abilities > individual abilities
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tainted Tallimos Tech: guess my bot is broken because sometimes output from the mud stops and i dont have a clue why
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: "TEE HEE ZMUD SUXES LOL GET MUSH HE HE HE HE HE"
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when output stops, does it start up again on its own, do you end up reconnecting, or?
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tainted Tallimos Tech: only way to fix is to completely shut down zmud and re-open, altho sometimes cant re-open right away i get an error message like zmud.exe is corrupted or something, but waiting a few momments and can re-open zmud
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tainted Tallimos Tech: tried disconnecting and reconnecting without closing zmud, does not fix
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tainted Tallimos Tech: as far as i know i can still input commands, move around and whatnot, but i just dont see it
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: last time that happened to me i had to uninstall/reinstall and it fixed it other then that it kept happening
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tainted Tallimos Tech: i have done the reinstall thing still happens tho
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tainted Tallimos Tech: i am just cursed i guess :P
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ibitato Tech: how can I make the big map look bigger ? I am using the mushclient
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: is there a way to hunt "prince " and not "princess", quotes don't appear to work with hunt?
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's no space after the word prince in his name...
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so there's no benefit there
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: You can do hunt 7.prince :P
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: Charneus I get a bunch of princess in that hunt 7.prince inculdes hunt 7.princess
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Keep increasing the numbers until you hit a prince? Use 'where #.prince' to your advantage.
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hooray! Looks like Myopicbot got caught in your bot trap!
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: yes but not an elegant solution, Char and I was up to 28.prince when I asked
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Well, it's the only solution, unless you know of more keywords for the prince. :)
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: question answered in the negative then
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ibitato Tech: How do I make the big map look bigger ??? 
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ibitato Tech: on the mushclient I mean, and tahnks in advance
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you could change the font size to a bigger font...it should be pretty big already
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Utu Tech: I'm using Aard Muschclient and linebreaks are messing up room descs.  How to fix?
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tainted Tallimos Tech: l
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tainted Tallimos Tech: oops
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: why does High speed internet have different upload and download speeds?
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: i forgot 
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: ... Yes.
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: i thought the lower the upload speed the faster the download
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: maybe because they are asymmetrical
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: are someone using mushclient?
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: I can't install the plugin for spellup
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the error message might help
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Interesting... gScreen, a company based in Alaska, created a dual screen laptop. The machine will offer two 15.4 inch screens that slide together when not in use. It will have an extra battery and additional weight, sadly. The price for the laptop? Estimated at $3000.
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: If I ever get a laptop, that's the one I want..
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: Hm, I don't know if i trust a manufacturing  company based in Alaska
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Maybe not, but it puts things in perspective.
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: $3000 is a bit steep
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Some other company is going to monopolize on their idea and make a 'cheaper' one.
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods at Blainer.
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: and two laptops networked together costs less than $3000
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: dual screens is nice but a do you need it with a comp on you lap?
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I agree with you, Blainer, especially since all it really is is just a laptop with a second monitor.
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: but two laptops networked together isn't the same as a dual screen single unit
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I would, Blainer.
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: One side for the videos/web browsing, the second side for CMUD.
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: hehe one side MUSH the other MUSH
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: that dual screen is overpriced unless the innards are equivalent to the abilities of two laptops
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: would have to be a good MB, CPU and lots of room for RAM so you keep it for like 3 or 4 yrs
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: I would never keep a laptop for that long
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Don't know the specs on it, but it would be nice to have a 4.0GHz processor, 32GB RAM, and at least a terabyte hard drive. :P
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: That alone would probably make it worth the 3k.
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thamos Tech: 32gb yeah right
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: ram overkill
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus snickers with Thamos about their shared secret.
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: You can never have too much RAM!
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thamos Tech: i agree >))
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the Alaska location is suspicious -- cooling may require using the laptop in subzero temperatures
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: the cpu wouldn't even be able to use it to it's full potential
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: I remeber when I used to run Quake on a ram drive for speed
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods at Drtoki.
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thamos Tech: hey guys, is there a way (that has been tested and is known to work) to play Aardwolf on a sonty psp
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: not sure it help but
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: Pfft, it needs a full size PCIe 16x slot, 2 hard drive slots, raid 0+delayed1 support, and 8 or 9 memory slots.
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Thamos: Doubt it. :P
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thamos Tech: too bad
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus cackles gleefully at WarPigs.
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thamos Tech: or id play in bed heh heh
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: install linux on psp
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: then try telnetting
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I'm playing in bed right now. Wireless keyboard/mouse... :P
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: 8 or 9 memoryslots -- on a laptop ?
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: It's a joke, Xyliz. Learn some humour.
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: For 3k, yes.
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Your lack of humour disappoints me, as much as you comment on 'mine.'
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: WarPigs seemed serious
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: Of course he did, the internet is serious business 
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: I was half joking. I know geek features don't sell and future proofing a laptop is to avoided like the plague.
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduka Tech: anyone happen to know somewhere to download send_input_to_main.xml
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: www.mushclient.com is a good place to check ;-)
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and it's Send_Input_To_Main_World.xml
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduka Tech: I already checked there.
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, but you checked for the wrong file :P
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduka Tech: I googled it, and didn't see it.
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you didn't google exactly what I just told you to
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: www.mushclient.com, click search, paste Send_Input_To_Main_World.xml...7 hits...one of the hits is entitled "Plugins: Plugin to redirect typing to another world"...
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduka Tech: I must have copy pasted wrong. Thank you.
T1/r7/2009-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, you were missing the word "world"
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: where is the info stored that in mush shows the hp, mana, moves ,and enemy hp in the bottom bar...i'd like to add a few more things to that line if possible
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shepard Tech: help prompt
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Shepard just SMACKED himself in the forehead, what a dolt.
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: ehhhh not the game prompt
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: use this plugin to get HP, Mana, Moves etc: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?id=8776
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i already have that...i wanted to add more lol
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: to what?
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: to the bottom bar
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: oh sorry no clue, think that bar is a .dll
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: you could mess with this to get what you want: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=9575
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: it seems he's using some kind of stored thing, doesn't look like a dll but that cached stuff when you run mush
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: whats the plugin file called?
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: can't do miniwindows unfortunately
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: aardwolf health bar
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: it's okay it seems far more difficult, certainly beyond what i know
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: what do you want on it, I can't think of anymore detail for my health bar
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i would have liked 2 new variables that have how many health and mana pots i have
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: ther's other ways to do it just seemed the best solution for how i play cause i got another 1/3 of the screen there available
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: you'd need a command to set them, and then windowtext to put them on the window
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: i'm not even sure what you mean hah i'm so bad at this language
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: I'll fiddle with it and see how easy it is, if I make it I'll send note
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: if i'm trying to learn lua a bit, what's a plugin i could make that is really useful or at least makes it worth my while i suppose but not something i might find way too hard to do my first one
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: find somethng you want to test for, If this variable is this do this if not do that
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: this is good: http://lua.gts-stolberg.de/en/index.php?uml=1
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: thx
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: maybe make a something that flees from combat if your getting owned
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: need help with mushclient, just started using it. installed stats
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: stats detector plugin, but there's no window with info
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: trying out mushclient. so far 0/2 plugins are working. stat_detector does nothing and chat plugin just gives an error
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nero really is a horrifically poor piece of software
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: why does ubuntu 9 look old fashioned?
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: erm, been copying stuff onto a usb pen on ubuntu and then off on a windows box, suddenly it won't copy anything onto the pen in ubuntu - got a little padlock on all the folders. WTF?
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: on you usb is there a little button that locks the folders if it is moved to the on position?
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: no, there isn't
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i see, ubuntu, for no reason and without prompting, set the whole contents of the drive as read only
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: linux, gotta love it
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: no clue how to change the permissions with the file browser, are you familiar with the console? :p
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ibitato Tech: hey, good afternoon, how can I make the big map look biger ?? I am at 1680 at I would like to see the map bigger, my eyes hurt 
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i unticked it in windows, plugged it back into ubuntu, suddenly it's read only again
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: just the folders you copied from windows or everything?
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ibitato Tech: also, is there a way to only see the chat on the chat window, instead of on both main and chat ? 
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: whole drive
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i wasn't copying -from- windows
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: was copying -to- windows
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: how do you mount it as read/write?
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm probably stupid, but i can't find a setting where i could change the output window font in cmud :\
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: tried unmounting/remounting, it's mounted it as read only again as it's a flid
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: and why, when it was mounted as read/write quite happily for the first 3 trips, is it now being an arsehole?
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: will try reformatting it in windows and retrying
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: that seems to have cleared it, though i notice ubuntu managed to corrupt a folder full of files
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nice to see it stable and reliable :-)
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: anyone know how to change cmud output font? #call %pref(outputfontname) doesn't work for me
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: never used cmud, but not under view/preferences/settings any more?
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nope. only input and misc stuff
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: under options/font then under sessions change font for default session
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: forums say that it's removed and tell to use the %pref
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: how shit
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: thanks, linoge. that worked
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: np
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: language, darling
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: levels, tubby!
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: what do you think this is, daoine?
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft whips out the P01N+33 stick and savagely pokes at Feral Farkyss's gut!
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you pay me a living wage and i'll level for you
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ok. now the vertical space setting...
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: god damn. why are such settings hidden :\
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the solution from the forums is not working either
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: this works for me dagnir #show 10
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: #show %pref(verticaladjust, SETTING)
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ok. got it working. thanks a bunch
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: who in their right mind uses uha files?
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: loe helpfile
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: anyone know how i can flag a drive as dirty for chkdsk purposes when all i can access is a bootable flash memory?
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: copy chkdsk to the flash and flag from command line
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: chkdsk isn't dos compatible, chufters
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: recovery console from the xp boot disk
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: no cd drive
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: make a recovery console flash boot
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: more fecking hassle
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: should work, though
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caydel Tech: Does anyone have a good linux client they would suggest? I am using kildclient, and enjoy it, but I am always curious if there is something better
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: tintin++ or tinyfugue
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caydel Tech: hmm... I've thought about trying tintin++... Perhaps I'll dl it
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: zmud is good
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oblige Tech: Anybody here who has parsed the kine beginning with {stats for cmud or zmud? I would highly appreciate a copy of a parser that puts the information into variables?
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: netbooks are incredibly poncey
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i mean, it doesn't even have any F-keys
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: it doesn't need function keys
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: yes it does
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: it's called a netbook for a reason
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: F11 to switch to full screen browser mode, woops, no F key
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: im on a netbook
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: hit F8 to enter safe mode. hmm
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: mine has function keys
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: yours probably isn't a Dell like this heap of crap
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: lol. it isnt
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: there's other hotkeys, rtfm and learn them
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: and what possessed them to put only an 8Gb SSD in it
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: to be lightweight 
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: why did you even get one?
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: actually, there isn't, drtoki, you can emulate F1-F10 with a combination of keypresses, but there's no F11 or F12
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: repairing it
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: like I said, there's other hotkeys
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: which means i get to be critical of the useless crap that -other- people buy
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: learn them
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: buy a proper netbook.
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: there are heaps of choices available...
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if a shortcut is bound to F11 or F12, then no, there won't be another hotkey
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it's a bit silly building something billed as a netbook with less than 40gb of storage
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: I disagree.
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: what? key mapping is not a static thing. you can always specify your own keymaps
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: some people need really little space.
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: and SSDs are fast.
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: for a netbook I need no more than 8gb. why? Because it's a _netbook_ not a media center
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Shepard gasps as he realizes what Drtoki did.
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: agree, drtoki
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: most of what joe public uses on the net, especially teenagers, IS media
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: ok, but I have no need to store that media on a netbook
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: well then clearly the netbook isnt targetted at them.
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: and given that a standard load of windows, together with the traditional messenging programs, net tools, a basic word processor, and security software, and a sensible sized swap file will comfortably fill all of 8gb, then no, 8gb isn't enough
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: which is why a lot of netbooks come preloaded with linux based kernels 
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: a lot of companies, including dell acer and asus, are guilty of misadvertising netbooks as miniature internet and media machines
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: I agree, but there also exists companies that correctly advertise 
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: internet yes, media?
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: media and comms are mostly what the internet is used for
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but media and comms on the Internet requires no storage
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caydel Tech: tintin looks decent. however, when there are a lot of lines scrolling on the screen, it's tough to see what you are typing as the characters are randomly apended to lines as the scroll past
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caydel Tech: however, i like having it in a terminal
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: caydel, use visual mode
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: do when people start downloading em
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caydel Tech: howdo I enable that?
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: when you have a netbook, you dont download them...
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: if your netbook only has a 8gb ssd of course
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: nowadays there are 160gb options
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dunno, I use tinyfugue, but it should be in the docs
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: people do - you're grossly underestimating the naivity of joe public
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: Caydel. #split
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: thanks chosig :-)
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: caydel type #split
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: okay, we're clearly from different countries then. our "joe public"s are vastly different.
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: your joe publics aren't incredibly retarded?
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: yeap. they arent.
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: also read #help prompt and #help split for more flexability
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you're not from the UK or USA then
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: isn't it joe sixpack nowdays? :P
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you're from oz, which means instead of downloading illegal music on their 8gb netbook, you're on the beach cremating animals
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: sorry, cremating animals?
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: how often does that occur?
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: never had a bbq?
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: bbq != cremation 
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: clearly we don't use retarded phrases like cremating animals
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are no barbecues in the UK?
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: once again, different countries = different IQ levels?
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: we don't have the cliamte for bbqs
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bull farky
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't have the climate as often
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: come off it, we're renowned for rained off bbq's
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just cuz you're never invited to a barbecue doesn't mean that they don't exist in your entire country :-)
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: the bbq being held in the kitchen is almost tradition
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can't have rained off bbq if you don't have them
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: wow, which part of England are you from.
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: how did we get to bbq's from netbooks, anyway?
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you started making fun of oz
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: souteast, sneak
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: the main reason people buy inappropriate laptops for their needs is because they're tight, usually
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: nobody to blame but themselves then! :)
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: oh of course
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: after all, ignorance isn't a good excuse
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: fair point
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: either of you read how "Personal Antivirus" and similar scamware clones are getting in?
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: gleh, so there's absolutely no protection from it, really, until antivirus companies stop being rubbish
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: the infection method is  'social engineering attacks'
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: which is microsoft's rather nice way of saying "people being retarded"
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, social engineering attacks include all trojans
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nogs
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: by definition, really
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we had an issue where people were adding their own email address to the whitelist of our spamfilter, which was pretty much overriding the spamfilter's protection on all the spam where it looks to go from you to you
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: still a little.... annoyed... that -no- antivirus i've experienced seems to be blocking the latest spate of Win32/InternetAntivirus clones
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hmm. why does cmud eat () around serial numbers when the value is pulled from a variable?
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: you have to escape them or switch the variable type to literal
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: need to ~-esape it with a replace, probably
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err escape
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nah, then it includes the tildes
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: parentheses don't seem to be special characters either
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: why does itunes insist of installing crappy Bonjour for?
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: to annoy you
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for sharing to the local network
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: must be - if microsoft did that, the courts would be all over them
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Holliday Tech: because if it didnt, then it might actually work
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bonjour is zeroconf
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nah, itunes does work well, it's just a shame it's so huge and bloated
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: still messing with that damn var. anyone know how to pull values with parenthesis from a variable in cmud?
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caydel Tech: is it possible to save sessions on tintin++? ie, so instead of having to enter server, port etc. I can just give it a name?
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caydel Tech: how would I go about setting up aliases?
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piston Tech: it depends on what you are using to play the game
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caydel Tech: ah, so it's a client thing
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Not fully. You can do some aliases here, but they won't be as effective as a client-side alias.
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piston Tech: i think you can do in game aliases but i do all mine through mushclient
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can set up aard-side aliases by typing "alias mi c miasma" for example, to alias typing "mi" and "c miasma"
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but client-side aliases are more powerful
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I use a combination of MUD and client-side aliases
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Way to reiterate what I just said. ;)
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caydel Tech: ok, thanks
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caydel Tech: let me guess... once I connect with the mushclient, the game starts sending all kinds of metadata along to power the plugins, right? How do I make it stop that?
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: turn off the plugins
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caydel Tech: how?
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: go to file-> plugins
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caydel Tech: I am not in mushclient
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caydel Tech: I am in tintin++
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: oh, so you're still seeing lots of tags sent to you?
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caydel Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: try tags off
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spodgy Tech: tintin.. that brings back memories.. was using the original in 94 I think
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: wow gentoo is slow to update lol
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I still use tintin for when I am quest sitting -- does the job well
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: its more of a toy then a functional OS :p
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i see
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spodgy Tech: definitely not a criticism.. have been off muds in a long time.. I remember trying to play MeatMud on the uni solaris machines.. I think we used tintin to ease the pain :)
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I coded way to much stuff in ytin -- wrote an entire command queuing system in tintin aliases
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: and a shortest path speedwalker in perl to go with it -- too much time on my hands
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spodgy Tech: hehehe.. As part of the AI bit we had to do Prolog.. getting everything to resolve back to 0 or 1.. was that the score?
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: hello
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: any linux users here?
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just ask the Q
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: nothing srs, just using awn and i noticed that the mush client icon looked terribad
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: also, the icon on the desktop is horrid too
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: considering its low res and stuff
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, you can choose icons
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: yea, but anyone made custom icons for aardwolf?
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: i'm sure someone must have done so
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: i miss photoshop =( thats perhaps the only thing i miss after deleting vista
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUSHclient isn't just for aardwolf
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: apt-get gimp
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saric Tech: gimp
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: apt-get a refund
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: apt-get is horrid
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cain killd Abelinc gives Farkyss a 100% refund on the Gimp purchase price
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: apt-get saves a lot of trouble
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: numerous package managers are superior to apt-get
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: although java still doesn't work on my firefox 3
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: even after symlinking every folder that has firefox/plugins in it
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: java works fine with my ie8
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: u can install ie 8 on linux?
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, farky's a gates fanboi ;-)
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: java works well with epiphany etc, but just not ff3
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nah, i'm anti fanvois
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: so how many linux nerds who trumpt about open source oses have ever actually read any of the code, let alone written it?
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: the one thing m$ is awesome about is the xbox 360
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Don't forget media center
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saric Tech: it's not the xbox 360 that's good... it's the games that are made for it
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: xbox 360 reads burnt dvds
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: the ps3 can't, only originals
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: 360 > ps3 for piracy
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saric Tech: the xbox 360 has a 4x% failure rate
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah, depends on the cdr brand
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err dvdr brand
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: if your 360 breaks MS fixes it though...when your ps3 breaks tough
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: 16% failure rate atm, it used to be 33%
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: warranty for 3 years, and free shipping
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: they warranty the rrods past 3 years anyway, mesiter
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: really?
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: lol, i was really gonna mod my 360 after it hit the 3 year mark
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: but thanks for telling
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod.. found this out after the fact, the rrod is basically a perm warranty.... I tried to fix mine myself cause it was past the warranty, then i found out later i could've sent it in if I hadn't opened the case
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: i have a ps3, but mostly for mgs 4
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: even ps2 has better current releases
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: is windows 7 any good?
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: better than vista, but that's not saying much..
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: i see, i heard it has an insane file transfer rate when copying large files
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: eh built in file copier in xp/vista are terribad anyway. USe robocopy
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: oh well, anyone got a high res icon for mush?
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: or terracopy, as you prefer
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: your mom's terribad
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Argot: Your mom jokes are terribad.
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Now shoo, grownups are talking.
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: your face's horriawful
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Komrad Kessel Tech: your mom's face is shit
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: NOU!
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I didn't realize tech had become /b/
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: i didn't realize tech was a cursing channel now
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: I didn't realize you don't know the rules of the internet
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: I hadn't realized I had crabs...
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: yay googled an icon http://mmii.info/icons/-Absolute-/comics_guy.gif
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Your googlefu is weak
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: googlefu?
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: I see your schwarz is as big as mine.
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skull Tech: My wife is a school teacher.. and I'm trying to find a handwriting 'practice' font ... so she can give her kindergardeners something to trace'
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skull Tech: any suggestions ?
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: d'nelean?
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: Sooo where do you download drivers to on a computer... trying to put drivers onto a flash drive and put them onto a desktop
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: depends on drivers for what and what OS...
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: there is no Drivers folder in the system32 folder where it usually is
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: intel ethernet driver for a dell with XP Home 
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: ugh, on all 3 counts...
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: put the driver installer onto the flash drive, not the driver files themselves
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: i was just about to say that abe, you beat me to it :)
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what you download from dell's site makes a folder c:\dell\<seeminglyrandomletters&numbers>
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err c:\dell\drivers\almostrandom
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: i tried that too abe, however the computer doesn't recognize it
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: you can't just dump the driver and expect it to work, you have to either use the installation software, or install the driver via the device manager
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: okay, well when I can't get online because the ethernet card doesn't work, and the computer isn't recognizing the driver manager which actually installs the driver.. what would your next idea be
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Download the driver install from the dell website to your flash drive, and plug it in on the computer you're trying to install it to.
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: i just put windows on a drive that had been formatted previously and was given to me in trade for another computer that I was able to get working 
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are you trying to run what you downloaded, or going into device manager?
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: tried to run what I downloaded abe
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to device manager, look for new hardware to get it to ask for a driver for the NIC again
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: it's not recognizing it when its still in the driver manager
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: click advanced/specific location instead of search for a driver, click the checkbox for "include this location in the search", hit browse, c:\dell\drivers\r######\win2k_xp
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: the c:\dell\drivers\r#####\win2k_xp doesn't exist..
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what you downloaded from dell was a file that unzips into that folder (unless you tell it to go elsewhere)...copy that to the flash...then use the path on the flash drive
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: what i downloaded from dell is on my laptop, i'm trying to get the ethernet driver to work on a desktop
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Are you downloading the driver for the right ethernet card?
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right...on the laptop, double-click the file you downloaded...it's a zip
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'll ask where to uncompress it
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: I used the service tag number so I hope so :P
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: its the intel so it should be
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: by default, it'll try to uncompress it into c:\dell\drivers, and will create a folder R123456 (whatever that file's name was without the exe)
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: copy that folder to the flash
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: okay one sec
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: so i actually have to install the driver on my laptop?
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: only one of the many reasons i hate dell...
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what you download is a self-extracting zip of the installer...it's not the installer
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: I'm so confused
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: ugh dells are horrific
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: One minute
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're better than most commercial boxes
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: i'll give you that abe
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: that's why i build my own though...
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: now there are several R##### folders how do I know which?
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's fine when you're not doing hundreds per year ;-)
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: or should I just copy all of them and it'll pretty much be right :P
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's the same name as the file was
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: i bought my first built PC in a loooong time from avadirect.com very pleased
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: the file is called "DellDriverManager"
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: i had cyberpowerpc.com build my first one...
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: cheaper to do it myself nowadays
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, when you double-click it, and it brings up the unpack screen, does that show you just c:\dell\drivers, or does it mention the r-name?
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: i like building when it boots the first time, otherwise troubleshooting is a massive waste of time...thats why i opted for prebuilt, just so much time if it doesnt work immediatley
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: it says: The content you are trying to access requres the Microsoft.NET Framework. Would you like to download and install this from Microsoft Download Center now?
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what model is the desktop?
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: cla OptiPlex GX270
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, hopefully it's on its second motherboard already...there was a bad batch of capacitors on those
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: Eh?
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: I tried even installing a USB Wireless adapter into it but it won't even run the disc for some reason
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the GX270 model...when those were made, one of the biggest makers of capacitors had a manufacturing issue that caused bulging & failure
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: how would i know if it was one of em? it seems to be working for the most part, just have to get it online to more easily download the rest of the drivers
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, I selected gx270, network, the intel driver file was R66787.EXE
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: not sure why im getting something different
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: you went in by model?
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and that by default wants to unpack to C:\dell\drivers\R66787 as I'd expect
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: and the last option on the list under the network tab?
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: okay im doing it the way you did and it's looking different
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: i jaut want to to do it the way you're telling me and confirm that its the same
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup,clicked download on the right
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: the last option right?
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, indel - driver, applies to gigabit lom
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err intel
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: okay good, one minute please
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: keeps sayin it needs this stupid thing to setup first
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: going to just run it i guess but i can't get this onto the other computer so dunno how it'll work
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, when you click download...then do download in browser, not using dell's downlaod manager
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: this comes up the instant i click on download
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's probably just dell's download manager (multiple downloads, resume, etc) that it's trying to install
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daiku Grayghost Tech: or vista:P
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: im gonna just download it and be done with it :P
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: you need the .net framework for just about everything nowadays anyway...
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, it looks like the website remembers whether you selected to use the download manager or not...the first time I clicked to just download in browser (the main link is to use download manager), now it's not asking again
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: it didn't succeed lmao
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I'm gonna email you the file
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: holy crap I got it :P
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, my webmail upload just finished...
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you've got the R66787.exe file?
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or you've got the download manager installed in order to then get the real file?
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: that was painful lol
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: yes i've got the 66787.exe file
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cool, that'll unpack into dell\drivers\r66787, copy that to the flash & you should be good
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: so installed it and it's not taken the ? away from the ethernet controller in device manager
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in device manager, right-click, update driver
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heal spell doesn't care about level
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mis
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: device manager keeps locking up heh
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: start > run > msconfig > startup > disable all > services > hide microsfot services > disable all > restart
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or just try safe mode with networking
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but this should be a newly-formatted machine that hasn't been attached to a network yet...shouldn't be a virus or anything, it should work normally
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: not sure why device manager keeps going into (Not Responding)
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: cause it's a non-updated xp home install?
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: or... what kind of hardware is in it?
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do we know why it was reformatted? possibly nic gone bad?
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: it's service pack 3..
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: abe i'd love to figure that out, however I can't even install a USB adapter (wireless)
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: take out 1/2 the ram, then the other 1/2 if it behaves the same
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: it's a bit wierd, when i changed the bios to boot from CD first, it read the XP home disk just fine, now that i put a disk to install a Wireless USB adapter it doesn't see there being a disk in the drive
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try a linux live CD if the laptop can burn
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ooh
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: i just opened and closed the drive and it's working now heh, which i had tried previously
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KaneBlendend Tech: sounds like you've got more problems than just the nic card drivers...
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: anyone know how to screen capture with dual monitors?
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: hit print screen on your keyboard
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: only does one monitor
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: fail sorry
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: dunno what to tell you, I can't stop it from taking both screens
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: www.download.com (cnet's software repository), type screen capture dual monitor...click to narrow down to just "free", 
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: anyone know windows 7 well enough to know if the enterprise addition is bugged and will let anyone install it without activation?
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: its a 90 day free trial sans activation, as i read
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: i jacked an enterprise copy from my work and was hoping it would not have to be "activated" but apparently my company has a licensing server to prevent that... mother fuckers
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Please watch the language on this channel.
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Oh no, go figure keeping them from being the subject of a law suit! Wow, how rude of them!
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: thanks for keeping me in check balaam, what woul di do without you
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: also, please watch that you do not discuss any illegal activites here.  It's supposed to be a nice friendly mud.
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: i had no idea you couldnt cuse on here
T1/r7/2009-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: i should ask for jilted next time
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: does anyone mud regularly on a netbook ?
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I often log in from my EeePC
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: If i want to do a regexp match like (?:polly|jonas) without capturing polly or jonas, just want a return true of one of them is in there how should i write it then?
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alok Tech: i have zmud and need to know how to move a folder out of another folder
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldira Tech: I'm trying out the mushclient and I have a question. How can I get chats to stop showing up in the main window (since I now have the chat window separate)?
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Chats echo off.
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldira Tech: in the main?
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Yep.
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldira Tech: thanks! :)
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus smiles happily.
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: anyone mud from their Blackberry?
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: is there a way to save your bookmark file to a disk or email it? where would that be located
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: export the bookmarks
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: IE can do that?
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: k thanks
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maaloc Tech: my consider all miniwindow on mush stopped working. i've tried reinstalling it already. any suggestions on what i should do next? delete and reinstall from website?
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldira Tech: well, shoot. Mushclient - I've forgotten the command to make channels not show up in the main window. Can anyone tell me, please?
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: chats echo off
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldira Tech: chats! I was trying to use channel ... Thanks! *makes a note*
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ser Gregor grins evilly.
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garffin Tech: is there anyone one here ?
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: i am =)
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nobody here but us bots
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garffin Tech: i have a  tech question about downloading aard :)
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: you cant download aard ?
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garffin Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can't download aard...it's an online game :-)
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: I want to download Abelinc
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you mean the MUSHclient installer from the aard website, gofer it
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: you can download a client to play the aard server
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Can I download more ram?
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garffin Tech: no i play aard off of a computer that i run as non admin so i burn the client to a cd r
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: i just downloaded a pizza..yumm
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garffin Tech: and now i want to burn it to a cd rw 
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: YOU WOULDNT DOWNLOAD A CAR
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daiku Grayghost Tech: sasuage?
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: awesome, make sure you download some good toppings
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garffin Tech: mmm pizza
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's a nice thread by bast on getting the current version of MUSHclient to be on a portable thumb drive
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Utu Tech: a yo momma joke is called for about now
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Garffin licks her lips and smiles.
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garffin Tech: but when i just downloaded the client it loads really weird 
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: until newer versions of MUSH than the one on Aard, it wasn't really possible without some real hacks, since the client kept a lot in the registry
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garffin Tech: i play off a burned cd 
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garffin Tech: ooo
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the newer version keeps stuff in sql database, so you can have continuity between launches on different computers
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garffin Tech: ah thats my problem
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garffin Tech: thanks Abe
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: BTW, RW optical media is probably close to useless if you want something that is both portable and allows files to be modified on the fly.
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: packet writing is totally nonstandard
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so using it like a floppy doesn't go between computers well
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: That is the least of your worries.
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: You can have the same software on both computers and if the optical drives don't have compatible lasers you can't swap the media between then.
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that hasn't largely been an issue for cd media in a decade, but was certainly back in the day, when you had to choose media by the color of its pigment
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: garrfin, this is the best way to do MUSHclient in a portable manner nowadays: http://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/PortableMushclient
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garffin Tech: kk i look at it :)
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garffin Tech: i will take a look at it :) dang that sounded stupid
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garffin Tech: thanks again Abe 
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: Is there anyway to make a window in xp stay above other windows?
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: google says third party applications can
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd basically be making it into a floating window
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: I have to go into the properties of the file then?
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: what window do you want to stay on top?
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: I found some downloadable software to make any windows in xp stay on top, you can also set the transparency, anyone use anything like that?
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: Vuron, I'm playing another game, basically just training... all I need to do is switch targets from now and again
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: yeah.. I've not used an app like that
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: a lot of apps have an always on top option though.
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: there's no way inside xp to change the properties of a window to make it "stay on top"?
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: no
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldira Tech: running mushclient on Vista, I keep getting a message that access to the file aardwolf.mcl is denied. when I click the 'okay' button, my main window shows 'World file saved.' Can some one tell me what's going on and how to fix it?
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vista doesn't want to let programs save stuff to the program folders
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 3 options...turn off UAC...have MUSHclient run as admin...or install somewhere other than program files
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldira Tech: ack! I'm not particularly techy ... UAC? doesn't sound like I want it off, tho. Easiest is prolly uninstall and reinstall elsewhere, right?
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volans Tech: you'll turn it off, install, turn it back on hopefully
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: user account control...it's part of that "are you sure?" stuff ;-)
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it would need to be off permanently unless you use one of the other 2 options
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldira Tech: I'm thinking uninstall and reinstall mushclient in another directory. Thanks, Guys! :
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldira Tech: oops  :)
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldira Tech: oh, cool.  Right clicked my shortcut and just selected run as admin ... problem solved. :)
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's what my second method said ;-)
T1/r7/2009-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldira Tech: oh, I misread it. I sort of remembered having to go through more hoopla to run another program as an admin. I was having flashbacks. :/
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: Anyone know some webpages that offer plugins for mush?
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: oh damn i know the website adress but im in a car know sorry
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: mudding while driving cannnnnot begood
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garffin Tech: whats that aard. site for aard. moble client ? 
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garffin Tech: so im running mush as non admin. and i have to play aard. using mush saved to a cd rw but i cant save anyinfo  triggers,commands and settings to mush ? any ideas ?
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runnir Tech: Anybody use the client successfully through Linux/Wine?  I am having issues.
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: disable the help plugin and everything else should be OK
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old man Joshu Tech: If you're on Linux you might want to look into KildClient. It's what I use and it works well.
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runnir Tech: yeah that was the problem, the help window opens and the client crashes
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runnir Tech: how do I disable that?
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: file -> plugins
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old man Joshu Tech: I found that the windows clients through wine crashed too often, but then again I'm usually running alpha/beta distros.
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you use any client other than z/cmud, MUSH and tinyfugue, good luck finding public scripts for Aard :P (although cartman was talking about making one for tt++)
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: there is a site with tt++ scripts...
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: people use MUSHclient under wine all the time without crashing issues
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old man Joshu Tech: Again, I'm usually running alpha or beta software, so a lot of things crash regularly.
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just not Aard tt++ scripts, at least not one that's ever been mentioned here when I'm awake
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: there is one, found it in someone's finger
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: i'm looking for it, just a sec
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: http://aardwolf.chicomecoatl.angelfire.com/blog/
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runnir Tech: what do I disable under plugins?  When I type "help" a window tries to pop up and the client crashes.
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: disable the one that has the word help in it :P
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runnir Tech: thanks for the help, I had to disable both help plugins
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runnir Tech: Is there a way to save the layout of the windows in the MUSHclient?  I hate having to set it up each time I login.
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: file -> save world details...but they should be saving already
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garffin Tech: he might be running as non admin ?
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you running on Vista, where it's not allowed to save stuff where it's trying to?
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garffin Tech: yeah im runing vista also
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garffin Tech: i hate freaking vista
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: what a con, IBM's Lotus Symphony is basically Open Office
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runnir Tech: Is there a way to save the layout of the windows in the MUSHclient?  I hate having to set it up each time I login.
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: you can script if it you want (don't use mush myself tho)
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Quiet Riot Tech: is it bad when the windows in your house are rattling cause your music is loud?
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: that's your neighbours coming to kill you
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Quiet Riot Tech: im sure cause its techno lmmfao
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: unless your neighbors are within earshot or you can't afford new windows when they break...yeah
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Quiet Riot Tech: im trying to push more out of my system on my comp anyone got any ideas i have a 500 watt lg surround sound system i wann boost it some
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: try car batteries
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wire in parallel
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that'll drop the impedence & increase power
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Quiet Riot Tech: i dont wanna blow it up just pump more bass out of it i wanna see the cops come in and thier ears bleed
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make sure that your speakers and amp support impedences other than 8 ohm though, and watch for clipping
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Quiet Riot Tech: ill check into that
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Quiet Riot Tech: i though about usen car bateries with a car amp and subs
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: I was just joking, dont do it
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: use a real amp and a 3.55m to phono lead
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Quiet Riot Tech: i have a 1000 watt kenwood with a 1500 type are 10
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chosig rapidly nods twice at Iron Duck Chuft, in complete agreement.
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: I had a friend who actually used a car battery/amp/subs for his home stereo system
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Quiet Riot Tech: type R rather
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i'll have 7 shaved testicles and a bottle of lavender oil
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to use car battery setup, you'll need a charging system, though
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Quiet Riot Tech: hmmm
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: thats where an old tractor comes in
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hehe, an old tractor's not a very efficient car battery charger
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Quiet Riot Tech: lol nah gonf you can come over ill set up a huge hampster wheel and give you twinkies to run :>
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: were you aware sleep was worth gold?
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Quiet Riot Tech: hell we can set the laptop up inside it so you can aard at the same time?
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: rofl, are you watching the same channel as me?
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: maybe?
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: some baby advert just came on
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: xfactor?
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: lol yeah =P
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: I just saw the advert, looked down at tech and was like WTF =D
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: I just saw the advert, looked down at tech and was like WTF =D
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: oops
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: abe didn't get it :-(
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: ooo asda
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: hey, keep promotion of walmart off channels!
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Quiet Riot Tech: thanks guys ill look into some of that :)
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: how about tescos?
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: you are just mad cos you have spots
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: and happy eggs
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: don't you ever wonder why on these womens makeup and haircair ads they say "136 women asked, 70% agree" claims?
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: oh dearry me
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: lolololol
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i never quite appreciated how blatantly rigged xfactor was
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: what a naff prize
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: that was B right?
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Well, at least those two kids are back together
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: I can sleep easy tonight
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: damnit, i want an oreo
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garffin Tech: and milk ?
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: here is cheap, very chap
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: why not?
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garffin Tech: mmm 
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runnir Tech: how do I make it so the big map doesn't pop up every time I move around?
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runnir Tech: with the mushclient
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bigmap auto off
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: how inbred does she look?
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jewel Tech: I'm looking for a current autohunt script, anyone know where to get one?
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: scripts are client-specific
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jewel Tech: zmud
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jewel Tech: 7.21 
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: get atreidess', his site's in his finger
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jewel Tech: nod thanks
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did he ever bring it back up?
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: yup
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yay, he did, good show :-)
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: zmud used to show what column the cursor was at when typing which made it handy when writing notes
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: anyway to get that in mushclient?
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saturnine Tech: Is there a way, using MUSH, to execute multiple of the same commands without typing each one out?
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: You could just use !.
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: ! repeats the last command on any client.
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saturnine Tech: Is there a way, using MUSH, to execute multiple of the same commands without typing each one out?
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saturnine Tech: oops
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saturnine Tech: Okay... but i'd still have to type ! however many times I wanted to do it though right?
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Did you just use '!'? :p
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saturnine Tech: yes, for the first time lol
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kioko Tech: In mush you just hit up arrow and it repeats your last
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saturnine Tech: I don't want to repeat the last
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Nah. You can just do !, and if it stays in the command line, just keep hitting enter.
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saturnine Tech: Er I do... but here, like I want to buy 20 random lottery tickets
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saturnine Tech: is there a way to "buy ticket random" 20 times without typing it each time?
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Sure.
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saturnine Tech: Okay... care to tell me how?
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Only have 20k on you, then do buy ticket all. ;)
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saturnine Tech: aside from making an alias and typing it out 20 times in the alias
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saturnine Tech: Ah hah! so that's a game command then
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Go deposit all, withdraw 20k, then do buy ticket all. You'll get 20 random tickets.
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saturnine Tech: But is there a way to do what I was asking for say any command?
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: It will only take from what you have. If you have 90k, then you'll get 90 tickets. 100k, you'll get the maximum amount.
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Like I said, use ! to repeat the last command.
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Saturnine: in MUSHclient, yes, but you'd have to set up an alias and a very short script to do it.
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saturnine Tech: I must not be doing a very good job explaining my question =P
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: charn he wants something like #repeat 20 {buy ticket random}
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saturnine Tech: Okay, sounds a little too in depth for me, thanks for the info
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: If the command line doesn't autoclear, then you can just hit enter again and again. Not sure if there's a command like z/CMUD has (#20 buy ticket random}, but could look into it.
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods at Myrmidon Myrkul.
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: and in mush the command line does autoclear by default, but there's a setting to change that
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods.
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Saturnine: http://www.mushclient.com/plugins/Repeat_Command.xml
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Install that plugin. It allows you to do #20 buy ticket random
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saturnine Tech: Appreciate you looking it up =) i'll go look at it
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saturnine Tech: Yeah I did Charneus, thanks! (You're invis/hidden/whatever =P)
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: http://pastebin.com/m2e83ca1d
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: I probably am makign a really simple alias a royale pain in the ass but I want it to get the variables right for the different ways of casting
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: is this alias for multiple spells or is it limited to one at a time?
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: its for baically any spell i cast
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: want it to track last spell, and last target of that spell
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: the reason for all the convoluted stuff is for when you use multi-word spells
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: what spell has seven words in its name?!
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: good ones
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: like i could cast gaias revenge with just "c gaias self", but for things like protection evil/good, I have to use c 'protection evil' self
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: well, I just wanted to have extra space for things like whne you have multi-word targets... I tend to go ahead and set things up to cover everything
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: are there any spells that allow you to specify more than one target (not including one-name references like 'all')?
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: you can specify more than one mob keyword
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: not that I know of... but, for instance if you have two bulls or something you could say c 'some spell' 'some mob'
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: leave it as only %1 and %2 and use c "some spell" "some mob"
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: so use double quotes... just curious but why would double quotes work when singles dont?
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: so... the solution is to use " instead of '
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: nod, with the alias i posted you
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: lol... kk well... guess I'll have ot get used to the shift key :))
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: kk guna test it how it is now (basically got rid of all of the if stuff
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: if you can only specify one target with a spell, you could just use one keyword instead of the multi-word stuff.  And if you kept that to the first argument your target could be  and the spell name could easily be referred to as 
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: I think zMUD or the mud ate whatever you were talkign about... target could be... (?) and referred to as (?)???
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maaloc Tech: does anyone use the consider mini-window for mush? mine's stopped working and i've tried everything from the website :)
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: if you can only specify one target with a spell, you could just use one keyword instead of the multi-word stuff.  And if you kept that to the first argument your target could be %1 and the spell name could easily be referred to as %-2
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: or perhaps forgo the alias entirely and use an oninput trigger.  The single quotes would allow you to define the boundary between spell name and spell target, and from there the references would be easy
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: right... myrkul just showed me that opyion
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: option even
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: would just need 4 triggers :P
T1/r7/2009-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: well, thanks everyone, esp Myrkul :D  works great now :D
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaymez Tech: anyone know why my donation thing wouldnt be working. like if i try to donate a say hallow light why it doesnt appear in the donation room?
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: there are several rooms
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaymez Tech: the stuff doesnt appear in any of the three rooms
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: clan have it's own?
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaymez Tech: drop only
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaymez Tech: it not big issue just curious if anyone would know off the top of their head
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: no idea.. ask on question\answer
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowzero Tech: hmm my mushclient crashed when my disk space was full, now when I restart it there is no space between any blocks of text, is there any way I can fix that?
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: anyone repair macbooks for a living?
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: in this day and age, how does anyone manage to fill up their disk?
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: some people have massive media libraries.
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: wonder why the php checkfilexists function has stopped working for me
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: anyone know of a good EU place to get spare plugs for laptop chargers?
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Is there some documentation on the MUSHclient Aard plugins?
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, right where you got the aard MUSHclient installer
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garffin Tech: if you see the big map,stats window and littl map you got the plugins 
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: on the page for the aard MUSHclient (http://www.aardwolf.com/blog/category/mud-clients), there are links "List of available plugins" (http://www.aardwolf.com/play/plugins.htm) and "Client help and FAQ" (http://www.aardwolf.com/play/clientfaq.htm)
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the page "List of available plugins" tells you things like how to stop bigmap from popping up, and how to get the chats stuff to ONLY go to chats window, and not in main also
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: there's info in help clientfaq too
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: many plugins have built-in help...go to file -> plugins...click on a plugin & hit the button "Show Info"
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Is the Emerald site offline?
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: yup
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the hosting provider was hacked yesterday
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: wasn't me
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: script kiddies in brazil or something
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: amazing what $5 will buy..
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft coughs loudly.
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: a clan's worth of goal and aq solutions?
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Hope they maintained proper backups
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garffin Tech: is there anywhere i can find triggers,scripts for mush ? for aard. ?
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: www.mushclient.com, click search...there are lots of them right on the MUSH forums
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garffin Tech: thanks abe. im running mush as admin. right now so im trying to get all my scripts,triggers and such fixed then i should be all good
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garffin Tech: hey Abe ive found a script on gammon web site that i would like to use but its the whole script where do i copy and paste it to in the mush client ? when i open script under game i dont really see where to paste the script at ?
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: paste it into notepad
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: save the file as .xml where the other plugin files are, then file -> plugins, add
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: anyone know how to diagnose broken macs?
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: an axe
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garffin Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slaede Tech: damm failing hard drives...
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slaede Tech: especially a new 2TB drive!!! Backing up the data now to another server, but this really sucks... at current transfer rate it will take 11 hours just for the important stuff (let alone the rest)
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: in zmud could i use a string list in an if function straight by itsself without using %ismember or anything eg %if (%1=@inthisvar,wee,aww) compared to ... %if (%1=%ismember(@inthisvar),wee,aww) ... sorry for rambiling im trying to sleep and figure this out
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: You're doing it wrong...
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: figures
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: %ismember is used as: #IF (%ismember(%1,@variable)) :P
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: But, to answer your question, you wouldn't be able to do it the way you had it at first.
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: or second
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus snickers with Myrmidon Myrkul about their shared secret.
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Munin Tech: Does anyone use TinyFugue (client)? I'm trying to get a prompt macro to work...
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: I have in the past...what's the problem?
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BiG BaD Bits Tech: anyone use wintin?
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Munin Tech: I'm trying the simplest one i can think of, but it doesn't do anything: /def -h"PROMPT *> " catch_prompt = /test prompt({*})
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Munin Tech: It is also suggested in http://tfbin.org/tfhelp/commands/prompt.html
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Particular reason you're doing a PROMPT hook instead of a trigger?
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Munin Tech: Only because I was reading that web page. Didn't know about trigger. Thanks, I think I know what to do now.
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: FWIW, you'll probably want it of the form: /def -mglob -t"*> " catch_prompt = ...
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: ...that -m<match type> flag might have also been the reason your other one wasn't working.
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Munin Tech: Nah, I was using glob as default. Thanks, triggers work. Now I can use my regex-fu. =)
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Sure thing
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: is there a way to download youtube videos
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: they load horribly slow, or not at all
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Sure, there's a javascript which can be used as a bookmark - you get the mp4 version directly from Youtube itself.
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Send me a tell, it is pretty darn long.
T1/r7/2009-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: or if you use Firefox, there is FlashGot.  Other flash ripping plugins exist, as well.
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Would anyone not buy the HTC Magic? :P
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: Nokia n900 is why
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: But is that a *phone*? I want a phone...
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BiG BaD Bits Tech: all about sidekicks
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slaede Tech: only if it really does deliver as promised... i.e. no cell companies able to f with the OS and features
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Because someone gave me a spare n810... it's not a phone, but it's pretty cool no less.
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: n900 is slightly larger than the n95, runs a linux based OS, has firefox based browser
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Slaede: you mean for the HTC Magic?
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: and supports 3g, edge, and quad band signals i believe
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slaede Tech: no n900
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: when i go out to buy a new phone, first question after the salesman talk is usuall "well, can you call out with it?"
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Chosig: I know, right?
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I'd love an N810
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: n810 was just a tablet
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Nothing the n810 doesn't already have, except for the phone bit, Forestseer. :P
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yeah
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: I'll take my Blackberry any day.
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: umm trur
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Depends on what you want it for Lacri
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: all the features i just listed are phone related :P
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: - 10
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <sarcasm> Forestseer THWAPS Trurien for being a moron.
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Heh.
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: quite a powerful machine though
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I began typing that before your quad band spam came out, decided to finish it nonetheless.
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: oh wait, i mentioned the os and browser, ya, thats n810 too :P
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: including the wifi and gps, plus my email and the ability to mud/browse from anywhere, plus 5.5hrs talk time...
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I'm not a fan of teensy keyboards, though.
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: plus 5MP cam, plus 800MHz processor, plus glide3d support iirc
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: it's touch trur, i'm sure they can pop up an on-screen for you
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I don't want a good camera ... I've got a camera for that. :P
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Forestseer: I was referring to the Blackberrys. (And I'm sure this plural is appropriate.)
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: of course it is, as it is a proper noun
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: aah yes, blackberrys
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I'm fine with the keyboard on the n810, bit broad for a handheld but reasonable.
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Besides, N810+bluetooth+phone with dataplan, good to go.
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: I deal with the teensy keyboard...most of the time I'm not typing anyway.
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Do you really have to use telnet?
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: we're not trying for "i can do it", but, "i can do it all in one"
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Eh, depends on your preferences.
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Well, I'm not going for all in one where I can ... at least for cameras.
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: Nokia n95 + dataplan + asus M71SA and you're good to go with much better hardware :P
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: yeah, same here, Daloran, though I'd sub in Blackberry for N810.
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I dislike the all in one mentality, trying to incorporate media players in to phones and pdas and everything else
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: Ericsson P910i + putty :P
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: i can't justify buying a proper camera, i wouldnt take it with me
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: phone, i would :P
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: subbin in a blackberry for an n810 would be pointless.. just use the blackberry as a phone. But the two are nowhere near similar devices
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I appreciate media players for when you're bored ... but I don't really need camera on my phone.
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: In fact, it would be good if I could remove the camera as I wanted.
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: So I could bring it into camp whenever.
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: I take a camera with me 95% of the time...
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: I only use the blackberry camera if I want to send a photo to someone on the fly.
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Lacrimosa: yeah, I don't use the phone camera that much.
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alok Tech: is there anyone here that can help me with a zmud question?
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No, Zmud cannot be used to control ICBMs.
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: how aboot just asking the question?
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: because that would make life easy.
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: my computer doesn't work. what to do?
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Throw it out, and buy a mac.
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: fire it and hire a new one.
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'll state that macs suck only because there's a fanboy among us
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Who?
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Oh, behave.
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I just meant because they were kind of like etchasketches... it takes a real idiot to mess them up
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alok Tech: what is the best client out now
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what do you mean by the best?
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alok Tech: i dont know exactly most useful?
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: if you dont want to do alot of work download the client off the aardwolf website
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alok Tech: how does zmud stand up against other clients
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: stand up? its a mud client, I dunno about you but I mud sitting down
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: does anyone know of a bit of software that'll make a flash drive DOS bootable that retains the capacity of the flash drive, and actually works, and isn't crap?
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i give up
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Porphyre Tech: it's probably best...
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: why do laptop companies give you bioses that have to be flashed from a bootable dos disk, when their laptops don't have floppy drives
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: comes under the retarded thinking group of ideas
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Porphyre Tech: I remember flashing mine without a floppy...it was a long time ago and I don't know how I did it
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: some of the newer machines can flash directly from bios
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: assuming you're not the first one doing it - aren't there any guides on the net?
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: no guides for flashing this laptop, no
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: later models they provide the bios update on a bootable iso
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I've always had good succcess using the hp USB disk storage tool for making flash drives bootable
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have you tried burning the iso?
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: there isn't an iso for this model
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: and the hp tool renders the flash pen useless by reducing the capacity to 1.44Mb
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no it doesn't
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: the one i was directed to download does
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we use it on multi-gig flash drives all the time
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: current version lets you format for fat or fat32 for volumes over 32GB
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: most "how do I make a bootable USB drive" howto pages on the 'net point you to it
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i take issue with them, since i've tried 3 different supposed programs, and none of them thus far have worked properly
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Porphyre Tech: is anyone familiar with KildClient?
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: the hp one doesn't work as it comes up with an error message saying "Can't find file specified" after formatting the pen
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's looking for the DOS boot files
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: then prompts me whether i want a HP Firmware image or a boot floppy image, choose floppy image
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it can't find them in the current windows installation, try making a floppy on a PC that has a drive, then copying the system files to a location for the drive tool
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: click next, nothing happens
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: one sec, tried typing something in the menu short and menu long boxes, see if that makes any difference
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: says it's finished
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: is it bootable? is it bollox
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: think the only way i'll be able to do this is to rustle up an old windows 98 CD
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: boot from that
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Porphyre Tech: what is the best client for Linux?
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tinyfugue is my preferred :-)
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for all OSes, linux, MacOS, windows, OS/2, BeOS, anything ;-)
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you like pretty GUIs, then I'd suggest using aard's MUSHclient under wine though
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: kmuddy or mudlet isn't half-assed either... but they both totally lack documentation
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and any public scripts for aard
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Porphyre Tech: how is scripting with tinyfugue?
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I haven't found anything I've wanted to code that I was unable to...
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: hmm, memory all tests ok, boot with 2 sticks single channel, boots to windows fine, boot with 4 sticks dual channel, won't boot
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: having slightly problematic failure of hald to start during rc/init stuffs and manually in gentoo ~x86, anyone got any ideas?
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Not too sure about that VampireDude, never tried Gentoo myself.
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: wonder if the ram's all the same timings?
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: surely if it were a timing issue, it'd show in testing
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garffin Tech: ok i have mushclient and i was wondering if anyone could help me set up a command? something like     et=get pie from back
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garffin Tech: would that be a command ?
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game -> configure -> aliases
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garffin Tech: kk thanks 
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: click add...put what you want to type up top, what you want it to do in the giant box
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just hit the enter key to do 2 things, don't bother using ; or anything for that
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: set up an alias like 'fetch' that has a value of 'get %1 bag' or something similar. not familiar with mush scripts
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you want it to take an arguement (so you'd type "get pie" instead of just "get"), then make the top part "get *", and have the bottom part be "get %1 backpack"
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garffin Tech: ok i get it :) nice
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garffin Tech: thanks 
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garffin Tech: im going to play around with it abit :)
T1/r7/2009-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: has anyone gotten the cmud mapper to work without the prompt?
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I love entertaining debug messages (not my code):  logger.debug("Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency.... (and maybe " + fileName + " ) ")
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Sounds like a W quote...:-P
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: W? Er, monty python actually =p
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Ah - that works, too.
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: is being on a mailing list likely to get my email on spammers lists?
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: depends which mailing list
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: so spammers could just join and collect emails then?
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: god Ihate them...
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I would say no.  That address getting out to spammers, yes.
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: what do you mean no and yes?
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Well, the mail from the mailing list is not spam.  Some people are dumb enough to think it is.  The people who maintain the mailing list CAN sell that off for spammers.  Any list sent out sanely will not let your address be seen by other recipients.
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: And I'm sick of tickets being put in as "Our CEO got this spam!" when it was email from a mailing list.
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: right gotcha, thank you:)
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: qc
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: mis
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: Balaam I'm not poking the bear but I can see other peoples email addresses on this mailing list. Whats to stop a spammer collecting them?
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: nothing.
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Keeps me with job security, I guess.  Spam blocking software to the rescue!
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: the email I see should be the email for the list right, not the user who sent it.
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: depends on the list, I suppose.  Some redirect to a mass sending email.  Others redirect as the original sender.
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Whats popular these days for extracting .bin/cue files
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: what's a cue file?  Is it for a billiards game?  :)
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: no, it's essentially a file allocation table to a matching BIN file that has purely binary data on it. With both of them together, you can burn an exact copy of almost any disc..
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: what's the regex symbol to use for numbers that can be negative? (ie. -555)
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: \-?[0-9]+
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: anyone happen to use the mudlet libraries for mac?
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: how retarded is that? "Before flashing, disabled the flash protect in the MISC menu as detailed on page 34". Turn to page 34, no flash protect option whatsoever
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Profoundly Odd Tech: the technical writer may have been dyslexic. check page 43
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: why do I have to put up with my life being made difficult and miserable just because nobody else seems capable of doing their effing job properly
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a test...anyone who can't either find the instructions wherever they're hidden, or figure out how to disable the protection, shouldn't be flashing BIOS!
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: there's no way in bios to unprotect it, and no jumper anywhere that's labeled flash protect
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: hence it makes number 2 on todays retard list
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Profoundly Odd Tech: relax Abe.. your #1 position on the list is SAFE
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: anybody have a link for tf5 docs in html format?
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir points at you.  How rude! 
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://tinyfugue.sourceforge.net/
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: can't find any docs there :(
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's right where you download the source itself
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you click on downloading, click the project page, click files, it's the file tf-50b8-help.tar.gz
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: aah... yes, found it. thansk
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that unpacks into html versions of the /help pages
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chosig nods.
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chosig trying to figure out how to hack the status_line :P
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: anyone use mudlet libraries for mac?
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tf5 made status line stuff much easier, if you want to use the newer commands
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: ooh, lots easier to understand in tf5 than in tf4.
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: is there a way to hide gmud from my task bar?
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are utilities to do that, yeah
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: ugh i hate my computer it wont even let me install fable the lost chapters
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: Does anyone here use the zMUD automapper that knows about how to use over-rides?
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: I've had the mapper working fine but it just crapped out and no longer follows
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: Use the tags (help tags) those help
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: been usign the (rname) and exits tags to get it to force... and it was working fine till just now
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: cource, I haven't figured out how to get the room description and objects to work yet
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: chosig... if I pastebin my two triggers can you double check them to see if I'm screwing up something?  also the mapper for some reason doesnt' keep the queue right all the time :|
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: sure
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: turn off safewalking
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: is safewalkign really that screwy?
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: yup, you need a load of other triggers and stuff to get safe-walking to work
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: Use the tags (help tags) those help
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: yeah been using tags.  here i'll just pastebin the whole exported "Mapper" class I've been workign on
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: here you all go... http://pastebin.com/m6b79cd32
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: if you see any obvious bugs, submit em and gimme a new link :P
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: http://pastebin.com/m56944d9c
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: untested though, long while since i've used zmud
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwise Tech: anyone have a mush vorpal counter?
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: www.mushclient.com, click search, type vorpal counter ;-)
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grindstone Tech: not sure if this is a tech question, but is anyone listening
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: shoot
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grindstone Tech: what do u call pictures on the net that only use  exclamation poits, periods, dashes etc.
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: ascii art
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: yepper
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grindstone Tech: thanks wasnt sure if that was a tech question or not
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: meh is the telnet starwars still up?
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: any command to list areas by date added?
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grindstone Tech: i just checke  a couple o ascii sites thanks
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: ascii art = pictures, and using same technique to write is called figlet(s).
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glorin Tech: is there anyway to incorporate "hotkeys" in aardwolf?  I have a keyboard with game keys that i am trying to use in aardwolf...
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Depends entirely on what client you use
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glorin Tech: i use the aardwolf mushclient
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: hmm
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: you can try alias (help alias) and see if the client picks up on the charactrs
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: then, no idea
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: no idea, I use a different client
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glorin Tech: ok.  Are there any third party programs that you know of that may do a copy/paste type feature with certain keys?
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: Windows OS
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: what exact kind of copy/paste are you looking to do?
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: What kind of signal does a game key send when pressed, anyway?
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glorin Tech: my keys are G1-G6 (its a G15 board) and I was hoping to assign i.e G1 to paste a c bless and G2 c lay etc
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: at the OS level, it's a message that equates to what most programming languages refer to as an onKeysomething event.  At the hardware level, it's called a keycode
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: you are probably more familiar with keycodes
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glorin Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: get keycodes here: http://www.w3.org/2002/09/tests/keys-cancel2.html
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glorin Tech: thx
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sieral Tech: Anyone know of a site where i can download a copy of the boot disk for a computer? It's a Dell Dimension s
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sieral Tech: Dell Dimension 2350* i think.. 
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slaede Tech: do you just need a regular boot disk or do you mean the backup image disk?
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old man Joshu Tech: bootdisk.com has a variety.
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sieral Tech: I need to restore it.. and the disk that was with it broke
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slaede Tech: then bootdisk.com will not help you
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Old man Joshu nods.
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slaede Tech: did your hard drive die? Dell's usually have it as a hidden partition which you access by hitting a F key on boot
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sieral Tech: Err. the F Key? wish i could have found that out earlier, i'll have to try that, thanks
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slaede Tech: (a funtion key, F10, F9, F8, etc
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slaede Tech: it will tell you on the BIOS screen that flashes up (F2 is for setup usually, F12 is for boot device... one option is usually restore/recover)
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sieral Tech: ohh, i tried that, didn't bring up any option to restore
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: <Andries> jesus if i can run this myspace page i could probs run crysis
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: anybody got a diagnostics guide for an imac?
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: sorry, ibook
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glorin Tech: whoot i got my keyboard issue done :-)
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: think it's a mobo failure, just proves that macs are equally as reliable as pc's
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: farky knows all about motherboard failures
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: like..every one he's ever sold
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: every one you've ever touched
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: a professional purveyor of dodgy motherobards
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i don't sell them for use in hostile environments
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: sorry, when i put the hamster inside the pc,i wasn't expecting him to poop on the mobo
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: can't even find a service manual for this damned mac
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: holy cow
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Slowly, Iron Duck Chuft looks at Feral Farkyss, chews his cud, and muh-OOOOs!
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i think the apple designers were taking crack when they designed this laptop, you need to take the whole damn thing to bits to get at the hard drive
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: of course they were taking crack, it's a mac
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slaede Tech: which one? The new unibody pro's?
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: style over substance ftw
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slaede Tech: it is only 15 screws
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: ibook g4
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slaede Tech: well, yeah the g4... hehe... yeah
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i found the taking-apart manual, but still no diagnostics guide
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: keep buying ipods and iphones until it starts working
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: closed the lid, something happened - screen backlight went off and the fan started
T1/r7/2009-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: still dead ;_0
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: hi guys, does cmud pro work properly on vista home?
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: It should. :)
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: CMUD was made for Vista in general.
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: wtf!? there is no duh social ?!
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: What is Vista Home
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus thinks that . o O (  ) Habasi is a complete ***looooooser***.
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: of course it SHOULD mudding SHOULD be done from home in general
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: . o O (  ) Habasi bonks Charitable Charneus on the head for being such an UTTER moron.
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: thanks :)
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dizzyworm Tech: (ZMUD) can someone show me how to do this. if i scan and find a one word mob i can use psub to make it look different. I the mob has multiple names like "A benevolent priestess" it doesnt recognise it. not sure what i'm doing wrong
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dizzyworm Tech: anyone? o.O
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alok Tech: I af
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: u af?
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alok Tech: I know how to put a word into a variable by variable=word but how do I put something that contains blanks into a variable? 
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: alok, use double-quotes around it
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: anyone know anything about AMD neo processors?
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xtkaythen Tech: i nead helo
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Komrad Kessel Tech: helo isn't here
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xtkaythen Tech: help
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: jip nobody with that name
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xtkaythen Tech: my connection settings are locked, after i changed it to a proxy
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xtkaythen Tech: which is not running
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xtkaythen Tech: so i can only telnet
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xtkaythen Tech: hence,  me being here
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xtkaythen Tech: any aid?
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xtkaythen Tech: acutally, i'll be back in half an hour
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: How do I get my volume control to appear in the system tray if, for some reason, it didn't appear there when my computer booted up?  Would prefer to avoid rebooting if possible for convenience's sake.
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try going to sound control panel, unchecking to show it, then rechecking
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: with apply between checks
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Ah, that worked nicely. Thanks, Abe :)
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: np :-)
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Now if only I could figure out why my keyboard glitches from time to time and stops working.  It's clearly a software issue, or so I think, because shutting down, unplugging power, and taking the battery out for a bit fixes it.
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Speaking of which, I need to order a new battery anyway.  Mine is old and doesn't hold charge worth a damn.
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I'm pretty sure that something that necessitates the unplugging of things, rebooting of things and stopping of usage of things indicates a HARDware failure.
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it takes all 3 steps to return it to functioning?
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Yes, I have to shut the computer down, disconnect the power supply, and pull the battery for ~30 seconds.  It's a mystery to me.  Happens randomly, every once in a long while.  Kind of sucks when I just engaged a group of 4 mobs.
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It's a Dell Inspiron 2650 laptop, if that helps.  Kind of old, now, but otherwise works just fine.
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Will that always fix it, or do you have to sometimes do it again?
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: things to try...flash the bios, change keyboard/USB compatibility settings in the bios
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: That always fixes it, every single time.  It's just a hassle when it happens, is all.  It got me killed in WoW a lot.
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: Starling I got a HP550, and it has done it a couple of times for me too... but the most annoying for me is the random ejection of the cd-tray
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I suppose it could be the BIOS because I had the motherboard replaced one, and the computer never did act quite the same again.  Sometimes the cursor jumps around randomly when I type, also.
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: Check your palms your touching the touchpad... I do it with the first knuckle on my right thumb when i type
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, the first thing I turn off on any new laptop is the "touch to click" feature of the touchpads...used to hate when suddenly I'd be typing 3 paragraphs up
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I loved that feature on my old external glidepoint, but it just sucks on a laptop because of the keyboard proximity
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: zmud has an option to put tabs for all windows up at the top somewhere. is it under view->preferences or somewhere else ?
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: anyone know how to make zmud parse roomscripts?
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: hey guys, can someone try the website http://www.dia.gov  for me and see if it is down, or if its just my isp that wont hit it?
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com :P
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: oh nevermind
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i forgot it got remade as dia.mil not .gov
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude maybe should sleep.
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: hey what do i type to change my clock from america/new_york to oklahoma time?
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nothing. realtime gives you the system time and you really can't change that
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: is there a CMUD version of my bigmap script yet?
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: maintaining my ipods with winamp. I've got an old honkin thing that I think is gen1, a gen3, a shuffle and a gen4. no problems with the newer ones but the gen1 seems to have lost the file associations or something.
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: the music and playlists are there when I check with winamp but the ipod itself shows nothing, under any filter. anyone know what happened or how to fix ?
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: the ipod does recognize that there is data there: in the settings it shows 22/28 gigs available
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asilar Tech: does anyone know how to convert fahrenheit to celsius?
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Sure do.
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenar Tech: f = 1.8c + 32
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus grins evilly at Tenar.
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asilar Tech: wow thanks
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: To reverse, it's (5/9)*(F-32).
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: well,  c = (f-32)*5/9  for the way you 
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: erm.. way you were asking.
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenar Tech: bah, reversing the formula is trivial :D
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenar Tech: i have to redo the conversion every time :D
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asilar Tech: its also very confusing looking hehe
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenacious Takanata Tech: anyone able to help with a zmud script?
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: What do you need help with?
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Munin Tech: Trivial, but inverting 1.8 into 5/9 isn't the way I would have done it =)
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenacious Takanata Tech: just a silly little thing.
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenar Tech: more accurate
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: 1.8 is 9/5. :P
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Munin Tech: Exactly.
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: there are alot of silly little things
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Just ask already, Takanata.
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenacious Takanata Tech: trying to think how to explain it...
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: whats considered a macro in zmud the right click on the wondow?
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: window even
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenacious Takanata Tech: if i want to get <X> from <Y>, how would I do that?
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenacious Takanata Tech: i suck at explaining this stuff.
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: ... A macro is a key you press (without having to press enter) that does an action for you.
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenacious Takanata Tech: i did it before, but can't remember how i did it.
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: If you want to get X from Y? get item from bag? :P
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: damn ninjas anyway, unstealth :P
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenacious Takanata Tech: something like that, yeah.
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: There, Chuft. :P
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: hrmmm now to figure out what the heck it is
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenacious Takanata Tech: (i break zmud by *thinking* about messing with scripts)
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Hadar: Do #KEY KEY3 {tech I did it!} and press the 3 on the numpad.
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: no number pad
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Then do #KEY J {tech I did it!} :P
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: Zmud stats: 398 Aliases 502 Triggers 1 Macros 556 Vars
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i was only asking cuz of that
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Takanata: What exactly are you doing? Don't just say 'get X from Y' because that means nothing to me. Is X a variable that will change constantly? Is Y a variable that changes constantly? If so, you can do #ALIAS retrieve {get @item from @bag}
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenacious Takanata Tech: X changes, Y does not.
T1/r7/2009-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Then do #ALIAS retrieve {get @item from whatever} ?
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ibitato Tech: How can I know if MUSHClient it's using MCCP? 
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ibitato Tech: never mind, I just fount out :) 
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ibitato Tech: hey, nest mud client for mac out there, names ? 
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ibitato Tech: MAC OS X I mean :) 
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Does anyone know how to disable the command input echo from the output window in Cmud?
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alok Tech: how do you put a string into a variable? (zmud)
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Saw a comment on answers about the bastmush spellup script, so I tried installing it. At startup, MUSHclient starts loading, then brings up a partly formed window and terminates. Anyone know what I'm doing wrong? (Running on Linux and Wine, in case that's relevant)
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you do all of the steps for gammon's spellup script first?
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Yep, had the gammon spellup working for a while now, but wanted to solve some of the minor annoyances
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, don't know of anything in it that should be affected by wine (unrelated, but you must disable the helps plugin when running under wine)
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you downloaded the broadcast_state file as well?
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: when i try to download the spellup plugin for mushclient on aardwolf.com i'm getting an xml parsing error
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Yeah, well it was one big download with loads of scripts. Tried just installing the spellup xml and the broadcast_state one to no avail, tried installing everything from the zip without any luck either. Glad I made a backup first :)
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cookar, don't download that one
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: ok
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [10 Sep 16:41:22] Abelinc answers 'then once that's set, replace the plugin file itself with this one: http://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/Aardwolf_Spellups'
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [10 Sep 16:40:58] Abelinc answers 'start with the instructions here: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=8780'
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: will i need to restart mushclient to get this running?
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i installed all the plugins for the spellup plugin that i was linked to and then overwrote with the second link, but after restart a spellup window is not appearing
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: well technically i copied them to the directory do i need to do something else
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: might need to add them through the 'plugins' section
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: that's the one on the file menu btw
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: this plugin will not attempt to cast spellup spells that i have at 1% correct?
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i don't want to get in some sort of infinite loop
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Nope, I don't think it does, but if it fails to cast 10 times it'll take it out anyway
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: did you create the spellups world?
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i just copied it from that forum post
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: do you see the window?
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: yeah
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: its getting more difficult arranging all these windows
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: does it do anything if you type 'spellup help'
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: yes alot of info comes up
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: have you tried to add a spell yet?
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: heh i haven't technically practiced any yet
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: was getting this ready for later
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Are you the bast who does the improved spellup script?
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yeap
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I have a little problem... do you know if there are any issues running under Linux / Wine?
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yes, you need to change the wine to emulate win98
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: at least I had to
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: if you open the help window under wine 
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Ah, wonderful, I'll give that a go :) I've tried several times and all I get is a half-formed window and a crash of the client
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: that's a know problem the crash
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Everything works fine with the standard spellup script (except the bugs), just crashes it with the new improved version. I'll go off now and try again. Thanks
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: wow i'm looking through the plugins list...is there anything similar to the campaign tracker for global quests? that would be amazing
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: if i upgrade to mushclient 4.34 will it break all the old plugins?  I'm just using the one that I downloaded from aardwolf.com
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: is there an easy way to tell if you are on a continent or not now that most of the areas display coords?
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, so bigmap auto should always be off now
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it should be ok, you can at least use the miniwindow plugins if you upgrade
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that has been broken pretty much since the -1 coord was removed
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yeah, I was going to try to get a bug entry :)
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: ok, i'm running windows xp sp3, my brother is running mac os 10.4, how can we connect to each other to share files?
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: over my non-wireless network
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: good ole' ftp ?
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: stapleface, on his computer, go to the systems prefs pane, click sharing, click windows sharing
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: ok it's activated
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then his computer will show up in your windows network
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you have windows sharing highlighted, just under the selection part, it gives you the path...it says "Windows computers can access your computer at \\blah\blah
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Back... tried to install scripts but it needs a more recent ver of mushclient, which I tried to install but I can't see how to get my current settings into it. Current ver has an 'import' option but couldn't find it in the new one. Any ideas?
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I've got most of the upgraded bast scripts working now. Just getting an error in 'OnPluginEnable' in miniwin_moonbot, "[string "Plugin"]:435: attempt to call global 'checkplugin' (a nil value)". Should I just disable that plugin or is it indicative of a deeper problem somewhere?
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: edit the plugin and put "require 'checkplugin'" under the other requires
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Wonderful, that works great, thanks bast, now I've just gotta learn how to use all these new toys :)
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: With the new mushclient and updated scripts, I'm getting a '--> TICK <--' message in the main window every tick. Can I and should I disable it? I find it slightly distracting
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: just type tick
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Thanks, that seems to have done it
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Spoke too soon, that just turns on/off extra info, I still get the 'TICK'
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Found it... autotick :)
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daiku Grayghost Tech: type autotick
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daiku Grayghost Tech: man one i can answer and i type to slow:P
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Appreciated anyway :) thanks for trying
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Is there any way to set the font for the miniwin_map plugin? In linux/wine it's proportional so not very readable.
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: is it my miniwin_map?
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Yes, I think so, I installed all the scripts in the zip file off your site
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: if it is, you can type 'mw set window' and see what you can set
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: and then mw set <item> <value> will set it
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Very cool, I like it :) I'll have a play. Thanks yet again.
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: hmm now all of a sudden the script stopped working for me...i have 4 spells pending, i'm standing with plenty of mana but it won't start casting
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: hmm i had to sleep and wake up again apparently
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: ahhh!!! help all of a sudden i'm getting spammed by timer function "display_timer" not found or had a previous error
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: this is on mushclient
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: it happened when i typed spellup refresh
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: your spellup plugin borked probably, reload it form plugins dialog
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: file -> plugins select Spellup Plugin (what ever it's called) and click re-install.
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: k
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xbalanque Tech: i can log onto aard just fine..but my internet explorer or other websites on internet will not work...any suggestions??
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: most likely a dhcp issue...
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Flushing dns could help solve it.
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: at least, it is when that happens to me.
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xbalanque Tech: tech how do i flush dns.....? is that hard to do??
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: you know, I've noticed that hasn't happened since I had to fix my network settings
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xbalanque Tech: thanks for the suggestion by the way
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: it's easy, really. Start->Run->cmd, ipconfig /flushdns, I think.
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xbalanque Tech: one of my young kids was on that net..i can't figure out if they did something
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xbalanque Tech: thanks charneus i will try that
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: most likely not something caused by a young kid, though maybe an older one.
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xbalanque Tech: LOL young = 17 actually.....my bad.....
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Hopefully it'll work. If not, ask around again. I just popped on to see what's happening and quest. I'm going back to resting. :p
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xbalanque nods.
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: yeah, a 17yo could maybe mess that up, but...why would they make the net inaccessible?
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xbalanque Tech: my daughter seeks out anime sites and reads...alot...but its always different unfamiliar sites...etc...
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: Urwin, what did you change for settings to make it fix?
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xbalanque Tech: i can log on too aard....tha'ts all i need anyway !!
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: another thing to consider is your proxy server may have been changed
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: probably doesn't have a proxy server--most people don't.
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xbalanque Tech: flushing dns did not improve anything..net is still  down....
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: do you have a router?
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xbalanque Tech: I am at home..with a router....
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xbalanque Tech: no issues.....
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xbalanque Tech: I am on aard...for instance.......just other websites will not come up
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: reboot the router. mine has a tendency for the dhcp to stop working on it.
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xbalanque Tech: of course...how many times do I say that at work...DID you turn off your #$#$#$ Computer?? LOL
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xbalanque Tech: thanks for the input...i hope it works :)
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: see you in a bit :)
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: network firmware has gotten so noob-friendly that configuration 100% doesn't really matter for like the first 3 IPs.  Your network could be set up completely wrong and you'd probably still be able to access the net.
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: with more than 3, the router wakes up and magically decides to apply all the rules in full force, making the 4th computer you wanted to connect incapable of seeing the internet.
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: go figure, I run 4... but I'm pretty sure it's configured correctly, assuming I haven't forgotten everything I learned in Cisco classes.
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: all I know is that PPPoE like AT&T recommends doesn't work with 4 computers.  That situation led me to Geek Squad, which is where I got the "the router let's the first three retards in for free" bit
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: in my case, it seems to be that the router's DNS stops working properly.
T1/r7/2009-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: ack, just realized I said DHCP earlier, not DNS. I meant DNS.
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salamander Samalander Tech: hey anyone have office 2004 for mac?
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salamander Samalander Tech: wow apparently i'm one of a kind
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Perhaps.
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: I'm on a windows and linux network, no macs, can't afford them. If it's a question about Office and not Mac-specific, I can probably help, though.
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salamander Samalander Tech: well my spellcheck does not work, I can type anything for example "dxcfgvhb" and it will consider it a valid word
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: check your preferences and make sure you didn't turn off spell-check by accident, then.
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salamander Samalander Tech: i did
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salamander Samalander Tech: i tried changing languages, ive updated both the system and software
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: Okay, that's strange...and I'm not sure what else to tell you after those steps. :(
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salamander Samalander Tech: yeah i figured as much
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salamander Samalander Tech: guess ill try to find the boot disc for it
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Anyone know of a good spellup script for MUSH that isn't the one on the aardwolf website?
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: http://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/Aardwolf_Spellups
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: burning a dvd (even verifying it) uses every ounce of system resources. A burner fault or a Nero fault you think?
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: my god nero is utter garage
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: garbage, even
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: now to reboot just to eject the damned dvd
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: try deep burner
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: got 20 minutes to burn off 2 dvd images, meh
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: I usually don't have any issues with nero, but I don't burn dvds either.
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: ergh... wrong, i ment CDBurnerXP, http://cdburnerxp.se/
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nogs, i use cdbxp at the workshop. Not terribly good at dealing with poor quality disks, but at least as a program it's reliable
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: ebay sellers should be able to have non-paying ebay auction winners prosecuted in a court of law on fraud charges
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: failing that, we should be able to beat non-paying buyers to death with a length of lead pipe
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Is there any best cheapset to look at these days for buying a motherboard that will support SLI?
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: there's no such thing as a cheap decent SLI rig
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: spend peanuts all you're going to get is monkies
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Im sorry
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: CHIPSET I meant to say
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: ditto
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Theres no best chipset to look for when buying an SLI motherboard?
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: all the decent chipsets are found on enthusiast level mobos
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Not cheapest, chipset
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: ahh, ok
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Sorry, dunno where I got cheapest from
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nvidia 790i was the best last time i looked
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Alright, I'll take a peak
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: about the only one that supports x16/x16/x8
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: apparently there are new sets out
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: 980a is the flagship now
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: bit of a waste of money imho
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ahhh nice. Though I doubt it'll be an issue.. was just figuring it'd be a good place to ask.. friend is just looking to set something up for multimonitor, didn't want him to get shafted getting crappy chipset 
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: SLI isn't multi-monitor
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: in fact, it's SLI you -don't- want for multimonitor
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you just want two or more gfx cards if you want >2 monitors
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod, I understand that. But an SLI motherboard would still allow him to use the 2 cards independently, correct?
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: While still giving him the option to SLI them later if he so chose
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: any dual-pci16 board would, sli or crossfire
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: doesn't have to be specifically nvidia
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: YEah, but hes going Nvidia cards... Sli motherboard could potentially be an addded benefit later on
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nvidia were supposed to be pulling out of the chipset market, wonder what happened
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No idea
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Hrn, Don't see any motherboards on newegg listed with those cipsets
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: theres a 630i
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: then newegg only have 3yr old stock
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: check for Asus M4N series
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: anything lower is old
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nope.. searching M4N on newegg gives me speakers
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: then newegg really are only punting old stock
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Shame.
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: find the model you need on asus website and search frmo there
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: http://www.asus.com/Search.aspx?SearchKey=M4N
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ah.. is M4N only for AMD cpus?
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ah, yeah newegg has the M4N boards... but AMD only
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2%2050001315%2040000022%201071046435&name=Phenom%20II%20%2f%20Athlon%20X4%20%2f%20Athlon%20X3%20%2f%20Athlon%20X2
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Its all AMD stuff
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: there should be only AMD only, M4N is Asus AM3 socket range
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod... was looking for something for Intel... has AMD pulled back ahead recently? Last time I really looked was probably 2 years ago
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: i'm no fan of amd/ati, so i really don't know
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Was looking for Intel/NVidia
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: i like gigabyte mobo's
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Any specific chipsets that support SLI?
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Motherboard/Products_ComparisonSheet.aspx
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Hmm.
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128358&Tpk=ep45-ud3p Opinion on this? Seems to be the only LGA 775 board in that list with 2x pci expresss slots
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: wait... that won't do SLI will it
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: someone help with "Line 13147 of the INF file \i386\txtsetup.sif is invalid before other people start getting clubbed to death
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: anyone know WHY masm32 won't install on a network drive ? I see the notation on the homepage but its not really explicit
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: or perhaps it is and I just don't understand yet
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maximon Tech: anyone know anything about triggers in zmud?
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: what are you trying to accomplish. or maybe what is your trigger and we can debug it
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maximon Tech: well basically i am taking the pup message
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: claninfo cabal 2, it's there
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maximon Tech: i write it just like that, i tried and it doesnt do it :<
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: don't know what else i can do to get this cocking thing to install
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: . o O (  ) Habasi peers around herself intently.
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: was ridiculously shortsighted of Microsoft to make it so you could only install third party boot drivers from a floppy disk in XP
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: what is a floppy disk ?
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: . o O (  ) Habasi runs away in utter terror!
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: pretty much the point
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I thought you could do it from a thumb drive as well.... Though I could be mistaken. I know a USB Floppy drive works though
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nogs, thumb drive no, though
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: don't have a usb floppy
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Slipstreaming the cd not an option?
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: going to try this one more time. This don't work, it goes through the window
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maximon Tech: lol dontdo that
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: heh, you haven't had the day i've had
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maximon Tech: im in iraq =P
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: trust me, it'll go from the window - the phone is already out there somewhere
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maximon Tech: LOL
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i don't see the humour in it
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maximon Tech: sry in iraq you can find humor in anything
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: omg look a bus of nuns on fire... muh ahahhahah
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: at least in iraq you only have to deal with turbanheads blowing themselves up, i have to deal with complete retards
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maximon Tech: we got more retards then you want to know
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: they have at least an excuse
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: right, out the window it goes
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: has anyone experience of integrating boottime drivers into an xp disk?
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Farkyss, Haven't done it in a while, but I believe you can use nLite to slipstream in boot drivers.  (http://www.nliteos.com)
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: someone give me the name of a free proram i can use to edit a file in an .iso image
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nynaeve Tech: can anyone recommend a good OS X mud client ?
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nynaeve Tech: other than cantrip
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i've heard good things about tintin
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/resclient.html
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xtkaythen Tech: does anyone know how to  change my change the proxy settings of your pc
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: open up internet explorer, go to tools -> Internet options, click the connections tab, then lan settings
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xtkaythen Tech: what if their locked
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you don't have permission to change them
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: see the owner of the computer
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xtkaythen Tech: no automatich batch-type changings?
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xtkaythen Tech: sorry, i'm using telnet
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the settings are in the registry, so you can tweak them there, and there is a command line access to just those settings proxycfg.exe...but most group policies that would disallow access to the proxy settings in the Internet Options box would also disable those
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: in TinyFugue how would i do to turn the bg color of the status line blue (or pink :P)
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Looking for a pregnant client? Or hoping it's just a fluke?
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: rephrase for charneus sake "How do I change the background color value of the status_line?" :P
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: anyone familiar with windows command prompt aliasing know the proper syntax to do so ?
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: preferrably with linkd
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: nvm, may've found it
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: what a complete sod, can set a usb flash drive up in bios to emulate a floppy drive, boot to xp cd, tell it to install 3rd party driver, it'll let me choose the drive from the pen, but when it gets to the starting windows bit, asks me to insert the driver disk in drive a: and goes no further. What a sod
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: something odd is happening with my spellup script...cure poison keeps showing up as a spellup affecting me
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: fix it
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: can't really help you since you're talking aboot an unknown script for an unknown client
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: the updated one for mushclient
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: got the link from abelinc yesterday
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Overlord Xantcha Tech: Any linux/unix users around?
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Yep, slackware linux
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Overlord Xantcha Tech: I'm using PuTTY to SSH into a remote machine I have no access to... I'm going to run a command that will most likely take all night to complete.  Is there a good way to ensure the command continues running, even if I get logged out due to session/inactivity timeout on PuTTY?
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Overlord Xantcha Tech: I should say no physical access to
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Overlord Xantcha Tech: read: it's 2,000 miles away
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use screen
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Overlord Xantcha Tech: Screen will keep it running if I get logged out?
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Overlord Xantcha Tech: thanks, I'll look up syntax
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's what I use for 24/7 tinyfugue running...can putty in from work, connect to the session, drive home, connect to the same session
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: That'd be convenient.
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it is :-)
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and can midpssh into the same session from a phone ;-)
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Overlord Xantcha Tech: Anyone know if running "dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb" to copy the primary drive of a machine to an identical secondary (MBR and everything) would make the machine lock up & unuseable for the duration of the operation?  (Say, for instance, make its web server halt?)
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DaRicoDude Tech: is C++ the same as C#?
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Overlord Xantcha Tech: lol, no
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Overlord Xantcha Tech: C# is /similar/ in syntax, but the interfaces are different
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Overlord Xantcha Tech: C# is meant mainly to be used with the .NET Framework
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Overlord Xantcha Tech: C++ can be used with .NET, but works differently, and often without .NET
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aristarchus Tech: im using the aardwolf mushclient...is there a way to stop the big map from popping up every time i enter aylor?
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I've disabled it, just have to re-enable it for vidblain occasionally
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aristarchus Tech: how do i disable it?
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: File/Plugins, select it and click disable
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: erm, the bigmap is only necessary for 6 areas.  Is there someone you can bug to tighten up the logic for that plugin?
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Do you mean the ones from vidblain? Or is there somewhere else it's of use that I've not found yet?
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: some things dump you different rooms than those adjacent to where you entered, such as The Goblin Path or when you corpsify yourself inside the Nautilus
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: these rooms can sometimes be duplicates, so quick and accurate room-findage would have to rely on coordinates (which I assume the bigmap plugin is handling)
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I don't really know, all I use it for is navigating vidblain, other than that it's just slightly annoying when it steals focus from the input area so I just keep it disabled except when I need it.
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starlight Tech: Anyone downloaded Zango before?
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: Has anyone done anything within zmud that involves variables that contain "@" in their value?
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: try out the  function
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: try out the %quote() function
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: Thanks
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: they are of use when coding spellbots on othermuds
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: indirect addressing (an address of a ram location which contains an address) was never implemented on PC computers like on those ancient minicomputers before the 8086 became popular (?)
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: is it possible to force %subregex to be case sensitive within zmud (since zmud made it case insensitive)
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: It should already be. *ponder*
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: it should be, but zmud is all around case insensitive and seems to have passed that on to regex
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: found it
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: just have to use in-line regex stuff to tell it to be case sensitive again
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Anyone played with android on a netbook or otherpc?
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: i opened up a zip file that had 130 files in it only to find that it didn't all open into its own folder.  I now i have a desktop covered with icons.  However, when i put them all into their own folder, only 73 showed up.  Where did the rest of them go?
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hidden, or there were some folders within the zip
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: where are they hidden? there wasn't enough room for them on my desktop
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: then they'd be off your screen, on the right of your desktop
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: how do i see that?
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Munin Tech: Open desktop in windows explorer. It's all the way on the top of the folder list.
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: try opening desktop in windows explorer
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or I'd prolly make a new folder, put the zip in it, uncompress the zip, then you can see exactly what you need to find dups of to delete
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: thanks, windows explorer did it...now i can drag and drop them into the folder i made
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: anyone knows why after i get my laptop out of suspend mode, i can't surf web/log on msn etc the only web based app that works is aard?
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: check your dns servers in ipconfig
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: try to ping them etc
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: will check them thanks
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: dns servers show up in ipconfig /all, and are also pingable
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: Anyone run into Torpig yet?
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: anyone have any ideas? i can ping the site, dns works fine, but it just won't load in IE/FF and MSN reports a port error
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volvagia Tech: Where can I get a plug in for spell ups and skills for when they wear off they automaticly cast or use the skill
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: OS?
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: Err, Karlos OS?
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: vista home
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: this only happens when i return from suspend mode
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: what browser?
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: FF/IE all reach waiting for (webpage) and get stuck, messenger reports Key Ports blocked and asked me to check firewall/proxy settings
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: Restart firewall service? Repair connection?
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: stop suspending your computer
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd try updating the driver of the NIC
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: somehow, on the very same computer, i'm still on aard
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: its just everything else that doesn't work
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, sometimes network things can be half-broken
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: ok, disabling norton firewall doesn't help too..
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: guess i'll stop suspending my computer
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: anyone know how to move the worlds tabs bar in MUSH?
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: anyone know how to move the worlds tabs bar in MUSH?
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: drag and drop?  The toolbar?  I don't have tabs.
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: nar I mean the tabs with the window names on them.
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: the top of the windows with the minimize, max, close buttons?
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vuron, he means hte Aardwolf, Map, Helplist, Stats, etc...below the menu, below the toolbar/icons
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: no it's a bar with one tab for each window open, you can use it to switch focus and has right menu. I just want to be able to re-position it but it won't drag and drop and can't find anything in the menus or dialogs.
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: what Abelinc said
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: ah.. I don't have that so must be a way to turn it off :)
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: I might do thiat if Ican figure out how, I never use the damn thing
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: File, Global Preferences, Generalt tab, Window tabs dropdown
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You cheer Vuron on and wish him good luck!
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: I got it but it does nothing, must be a script messing with it
T1/r7/2009-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it won't do it until you quit & start MUSH again
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: what does iso and isn files stand for ?
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tod Tech: hello
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tod Tech: does anyone using a linux client?
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trashbat! Anipopo raises his hand.
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tod Tech: which client?
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: tinyfugue
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tod Tech: trying to get one running but libs are always missing
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: can someone please help me playing a copied game i install ed it but trying to play it says please insert disc ?
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: learn to pirate
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: well post up the error message and maybe someone can help
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you answered your own question, really
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: how come dagnir
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tod Tech: let me try tinyfugue... will get back to your'll :)
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: insert the original disk like it asks you to. if you don't have it, learn to pirate stuff because we can't help you
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: because if you put the disc in, it should play just fine...
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: how do i see what my __tf_libdir is?
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what is annoying is when i own a licenced original of the game, and the game asks that and the game is fully installed on the harddisk
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: mmm i thought you guys might know cause a friend of mine said something about getting a ISO file
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: mmm i thought you guys might know cause a friend of mine said something about getting a ISO file
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tod Tech: get a no-cd crack
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i think it's against the rules to talk aboot that on this channel
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tod Tech: i guess so...
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: It is, yep.
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: really on which channal should i ask ?
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: we need people that are not competent enough to crack games so they buy them instead of us
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Tells. :)
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not any channel on aard
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tod Tech: try somewhere outside of aardwolf
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods at Seltsimees Dagnir.
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: if you can't pirate your games, you don't deserve them
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: Aard doesn't support or encourage piracy. Learn to Google instead.
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: i know how to copy games crack keys etc . But never i have found this message of please insert disc will it help if i install  it on alcohol ?
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: roflol
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Again, might want to ask outside of Aardwolf. :)
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir goes to Asley, "SUUUUUUUURE...."
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: or not
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: just get off this channel already
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tod Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: uhmmm copied doesnt install on alcohol does it
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tod Tech: anyone here fimiliar with java party?
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: it probably won't help, and you're violating Aard's policies.
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tod Tech: familiar
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: is charneus imm ?
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir shoos Asley away!!
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no, but he's right
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods.
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: are you that stupid that you need stuff told to you by an imm?
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: oh okay ill leave then uhmmm someone help me ! Send tell s
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Personally, I'd rather much hear it from a player who knows what they're talking about (and several players, for that matter) than an Imm. ;)
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: people like you don't deserve help
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i worked hard to pirate my stuff
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: mmm i know policies very well and
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I pirated Aardwolf!
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: we should be able to vote on a gag
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: hehe...
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lacrimosa forces a gag into Asley's mouth.  Ahhh, blessed quiet.
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: wow dagnir youre rude on tell s
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and you're an idiot
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: isnt personal attack on channals against the rules
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: you're mom
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's not an attack, just stating the obvious
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what do you call a person on the internet who can't use a search engine?
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: my mom dies when i was 9
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: died*
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that probably sucked, but that's a lousy excuse for anything
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: it isnt an excuse
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: just get off the channels
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: only rude people like me around who won't help you anyway
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: okay sorry for saving op to go study to be game programmer
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you can start with learning to use a search engine ;)
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and acronyms like gtfo and jfgi
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: is there an acronyms website
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: jfgi
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: that is the acronym i was going to look up
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: You need help, Xyliz...
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods at Seltsimees Dagnir.
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Asley shakes her head.
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: By the way, apply that acroynm when you're searching for the acronym...
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's not like you need magic fairy dust every time you search for something
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=jfgi
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: just an iq of >60 to make up some keywords
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir enthusiastically high-fives Blessed Balaam!
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Asley shakes her head.
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaymez Tech: can phone mxit users access other web pages while being logged on to Aard?
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cerrwynn Tech: Is there a way to create a new window in mushclient, which will display my current equipment?
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: There are plugins for that on the MUSHclient site.  Blainer has a pretty good one.
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cerrwynn Tech: Great! Thank you!
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cerrwynn Tech: Could someone tell me where I can get the mw.lua file?
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?id=8947
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cerrwynn Tech: I looked at that page. I couldn't find a file to download though...or do I have to copy the text and put it in a file myself?
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: In TF5, what's wrong with this: /set hpmonitor=$[pad(stats_curhp, 4, "/", 0, stats_maxhp, 4)]
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: If I try to put that in the status_line it doesn't expand the variables
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: stats_curhp and stats_maxhp
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: can always try %{ } on your vars?
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ooh, you might want to check out my fight status gauge...it makes gauges for your & opponent's health
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it uses statmon, and instead of curr & max, just use the health % from statmon
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: absolutes don't matter for a graph
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: aah... drat! been looking in to your scripts but i missed that one
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tod Tech: any linux users here?
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: yup
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tod Tech: which client are you using?
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: mushclient through wine
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tod Tech: does the plugins work?
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DaRicoDude Tech: linux suckz when it comes to games
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: mushcliant too
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: tinyfugue (but i suck at it, ask abelinc about that) and cmud (on my windows box)
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yeap
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: Dari... Tractors suck at drag racing...
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tod Tech: did you do the installation on windows?
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: no, I did the installation through wine
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tod Tech: mushclient shutdown each time i try to load enable a plugin
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tod Tech: its like the process was killed
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tod Tech: anyone with that problem?
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I had to make wine emulate win98 instead of xp
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use win98 compatibility mode
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'll also want to disable the help plugin
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tod Tech: i'm neew to wine but will figure it out... with the new help... thanks :)
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: could just run it on xp and save a lot of hassle
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: most distros you can just type winecfg at a terminal
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: other than losing other functionality, tigernuts
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tod Tech: my xp has some complications
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: That just adds the hassle of running an inferior OS surely? Not a good compromise in my opinion :)
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: wouldn't lose functionality, wouldn't be inferior
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you both know it's just a matter of opinion
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you would lose functionality, that's not opinion
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tod Tech: windows sucks... the end...
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: let's not make this a linux vs windows debate, he asked about mushclient on linux
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, BOTH OSes are inferior in my opinion ;-)
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tod Tech: abelinc are you a solaris person?
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if you're using nix, use a nix client, if you're using windows, use a windows client :-)
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wrong, tigernuts
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's not wrong, it's what would work easiest
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUSH is perfectly fine on linux/unix, gammon was primarily running it under wine for a while
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I use mushclient because if I happen to only have a windows box somewhere, i can at least use the same scripts
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Whatever OS you're using, use the best tool for the job (as long as it works, which in this case it does)
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my client happens to be native on almost any OS under the sun, so I'm happy anyway ;-)
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: if your client is so good, why does your char suck so much? :P
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but I fully believe that MUSHclient is a better choice for many people that run linux/unix/MacOSX
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nogs, appears to be the case, and zmud for windows
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I surely haven't found anything that compares that is native to *nix
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't you have some dragging to do? where's tenar?
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: in my group xping, I can do 2 things at once :P
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you like pretty pictures, and don't want to use z/cmud, MUSH is the best choice regardless of OS
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: mush is good and nicely customised for aard
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: sadly mush doesn't work over ssh :P
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: but not the best choice for windows imo
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: good for beginners and non programmers
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: why not ssh -X
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: then wine <path to mushclient exe>
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: why run x on a server?
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: i'm surely not going to install x just to mud from it :P
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you don't to run X, you just have to have the libraries installed
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't run x on the computer running it, you run x on the computer you're sitting at
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chosig nods.
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: thing is that i don't use the same computer everytime i connect, and not all computers have same OS
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: and not all computers are mine per se
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's OK, all OSes can use X :-)
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: w/o installing software?
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I like xming on windows...used to use MI/X on windows and old-school Mac (pre-OSX)
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i like gxf-ing and stb-ing, myself
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not to mention tcb
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: abe, you see like the type to do a lot of tcb
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tod Tech: is the options that i have to use in order to allow win 98 compatibility with wine?
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: of course I do
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yes, what distro are you running?
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: thought as much
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tod Tech: distro? do you mean version?
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: my distro is windows xp pro :-)
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: ubuntu, opensuse, etc..
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tod Tech: fedora core 10
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you should be able to type 'winecfg' at a terminal and have the wine configuration GUI come up
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tod Tech: you rock man!
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tod Tech: that was easier than i expected
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, bast gave that command 15 mins ago ;-)
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hmm. any decent way for viewing coloured zmud logs?
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dag, check out logedit for viewing zmud's ansi log files
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Icullius Tech: Is it somehow possible to completely move chats and all the other channels to the chat window and make them disappear from the main window?
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "chats echo off"
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Icullius Tech: Great!
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: might want to read the FAQ and the plugins pages that are linked from where you got the client...it's answered there ;-)
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Icullius Tech: I love you people :D Thanks so much!
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tod Tech: anyone here part of the sourceforge team?
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DaRicoDude Tech: im a member
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tod Tech: are you a c programmer?
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DaRicoDude Tech: i recently registerd but i know that site for 2 years
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DaRicoDude Tech: no
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DaRicoDude Tech: too lazy
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tod Tech: i didn't mean registered member... meant if you part of the development team
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DaRicoDude Tech: if i get a new pc then c++ is for me
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tod Tech: sourceforge makes some awesome software
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik looks at Tod and goes "Heh."
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Sourceforge simply hosts it- they don't develop all the software on the site.
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DaRicoDude Tech: true.
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tod Tech: thats new info..
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tod Tech: what about the projects?
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: its just a site to host projects
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DaRicoDude Tech: "they dont develop ALL the software on the site"
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: can viruses jump from 1 partition to another?
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Munin Tech: Viruses can spread to any executable on your machine.
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: depends on how good the virus is many even spread to the partition some computer companies make to help people reformat
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: so that when they reformat to oem the virus reinstalls
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Munin Tech: I hate it when they deliver machines with a recovery partition. Half the time you need to recover, it's because your HD crashed, making your recovery partition completely useless.
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I should get rid of my recovery partition... :P
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: It's virtually useless since I'm on Windows 7, and it's still Vista. :P
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: Hm, is Windows 7 any good?
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: haha recovery partition has helped me a few times when fixing peoples computers you can use the files to fix system files on the computer
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Much better than Vista.
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: Vista was just an entire failure.
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Munin Tech: It doesn't take much to improve on vista.
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: vista was another me
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: It's like Microsoft took everything bad about Vista (which was, essentially, everything) and fixed it.
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: Is it an improvement over XP?
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: One bug I hope they fix soon is that the All Programs menu seems to be limited to 70 items at first, then it just goes blank. You have to remove items for it to come back, but after that, it works flawlessly.
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Munin Tech: You don't get DX newer than 9 in XP, so 7 is a good idea for gamers at least.
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Definitely an improvement over XP.
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: Hm, maybe I'll upgrade.
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Munin Tech: I'm going to try it out at least. I get it free through my work, so why not test it out.
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: True.
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: yeah might as well test if you get it free
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: But, as it's still in early stages (public release will be out in October), you might want to install it on a different partition. Reason I say that is while most things are compatible with it, and those that aren't can be fixed with changing compatibility, there are a few things that I haven't been able to get to work in Windows 7 (like my wireless card...)
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Munin Tech: I'll just install it on my vista partition then. I'm not using it for anything anyways.
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: Hopefully you didn't pay money for Vista.
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Munin Tech: Heh. Nope, I would never do that. =)
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: Can someone please give me the link to the spellup plugin?
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: finger fiendish ?
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: for what client ?
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: ah, sorry, the one for mush
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: fiendish has a good one yup
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: yeah, if there is one, or a fixed version, he likely has it. but I could be wrong
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: not just for zmud?
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DaRicoDude Tech: whats the app that let u play aard on ur phone? Except mxit
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: aha
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: he changed Nick's MUSH one
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: thanks :)
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Munin Tech: Are there any good map tools for TinyFugue? I've been using runto since I started, and I still don't really know where things are. I just pop up here and there.
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: ok, sorry but i need some more mush help
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: I uninstalled my mush client and took out what I thought was everything I had added previously (gain monitor, moon plotting, and spellup)
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: I reinstaled because I wanted to make some changes in what plugins I have. First time I opened it, all was fine
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: Now, I had an error regarding those three plugins/things I had. It showed up as a tab on the top
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: I opened it, and closed it, and now my bigmap is gone (a standard thing, havent seen bigmap in ages)
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: How can I make sure mush doesn't think I have these plugins so that i dont lose my bigmap again?
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: have you got version 4.43?
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: No, its 4.3.3. Where can I find 4.4?
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=9659
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: Fabulous - and this will make it think that I dont have those plugins?
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: I don't think that will fix all your probs but
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Phalae sits down and thinks deeply. 
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: what do you mean "think you don't have these plugins"? If you uninstall a plugin in the plugins dialog it is gone.
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: I didnt do that. I just uninstalled
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: Now, when I opened the plugin window, they are not listed
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: Yet, mush thought it was there and as such it somehow made my bigmap go away (again)
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: so you have nothing in the list on File -> Plugins?
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: Oh no  nono i have like map, stats, chats etc etc the standard
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: But moon plotter, spellup, etc are not there to uninstall
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: I would suggest getting a list of the plugins you want, then make a folder under plugins folder, use the MUSH forums and find the latest version of each plugina nd put it in this folder, then install and test each one
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: Okay... a folder for each plugin (under the plugin folder) ?
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: no just one like "Phalae_Aardwolf", this will take some mucking around to get right
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: but do one plugin at a time deal with any errors asking here or searching forums and you'll have a nice clean install
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: So maybe if i reinstall again and go under plugins I will be able to uninstall gain moonplotter and spellup? But they simply arent there. But mush thinks they are. OHH What if i install mush in a DIFFERENT folder than it asks to be installed in!? That could work right?
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: Because then it wouldnt be able to try to pull old plugins?
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: no need to reinstall the client at all, all the plugins used are stored on the world file the .mcl file so making a new one of those is like re-installing the client
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: how ever I would get the latest version and just install it right over the top of current version
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: What happens if I delete the .mcl file?
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: Just downloaded it..
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: you'll need to make a new from File -> New World
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderchief Tech: does anyone use zmapper?
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: do you not recommend deleting the .mcl file (whatever that may be?)
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: (and the one that i downloaded still, in the about, says that its version 4.33)
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're trying to download a newer MUSHclient, you need to download from the MUSH site, not from Aard
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lasher hasn't made up a new installer for the Aardsite in a over a year
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: I made a new one but I didn't delete, I removed it from Global prefs from the list of worlds to open on startup, then made my new one and opened the old one in another MUSH window and copied the bits I wanted to keep like my aliases
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: Right, that's where I am getting it from
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: Well the two before that i tried to reinstall were from aard, i will reinstall the one from the forums even though the file says 4.33. Ok, brb.
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to http://www.mushclient.com/scripts/forum.php?bbtopic_id=1
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: ok this looks far more promising as being a new install
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: MUSH is extremly flexible just a case of reading the help and trial and error
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: Ok, so under plugins im making a folder for the plugins that I want. So I am downloading them all at once then putting them in and following directions one at a time.
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: thats how I did it yes but you can (and would actually now I think of it be easier) to use the file structure already in place and copy your new plugin versions to these folders
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: just make a list of what you want and find latest version for each and be sure to read the help for each plugin to get all required plugins, like "xStats_Detector.xml" for instance
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: Ok.
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: do this, it'll work...
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: yeah they all work with newer versions but new plugins don't always work with old versions
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: mis
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: okay.. any idea why some trigger in zmud might suddenly stop working?
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Did you delete it?
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it's been working fine, haven't made any changes, and it suddenly doesn't work
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: no.
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: What kind of trigger, exactly?
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ^spell (*) up$
T1/r7/2009-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: command input, changed it to pattern too but doesn't work anyway
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: How was the bbq?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: OI need some more Mush help..
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: Upon reopening the client after sleeping, my bigmap tab is gone again
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: and instead, where the bigmap tab should be i get XML import warnings - C/Programs/MUSHclient/worlds/aardwolf/aardwolf.MCL
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: It's looking for the gain monitor, moon plotter, and sppellups plugin
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: which i have not reinstalled.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: Anyone?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: uhgg guys i just want to say thanx to dagnir for telling me to use a searc engine and for the other people thanx i have found a torret
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: uhgg guys i just want to say thanx to dagnir for telling me to use a searc engine and for the other people thanx i have found a torrent
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: is mounting a disc mean you must use youre like daemon tools and then burn an image file ?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: daemon tools will mount the image without needing to burn it
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: how do you do that ?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: mounting means you load an existing image file, burning is creating an image file
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: burning it is part of converting it from an image file back into a CD or DVD physically
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: so i must just how do i load a image file so that mu pc thinks the actual cd is in drive 
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're running daemon tools, right-click the icon in your systray, go to virtual cd/dvd rom, to one of the ones there that says no media, to mount image
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: ?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'll ask you where the iso/image file is...select it, then it'll show up as if there's a disc in a pretend CD/DVD drive
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: so its fst doing it you just make image file
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: making the image file is the opposite
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: this is when you have an image file
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you downloaded something, that's already the image file, you're not making one
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: so if the disc i copied you load an image file ?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: ?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: image files are usually .iso, .gi, .nro, or a set of .bin/.cue...do you have something like that?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: in the gaem file ?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: in the game file ?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we don't know, you're the one with the stuff
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: gaem is a word :P
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: whatever you downloaded...did it have a really big file?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and do you have daemon tools loaded on your system?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: i just have the copied cd i didnt download it on internet
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: lol, you're back with your pirated game :D
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: by copied CD, what is it?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: i just have alcohol
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do you have a bunch of smaller files, or one big file?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: the game in total is 7GB and there is bunch of small files
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, so you don't have an image...what are you trying to do?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you started out asking how to mount an image file...but you don't have one
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: when im dont installing the game it says please insert disc
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: is your disc inserted?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: when im done installing the game it says please insert disc
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: yeah lol
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: are you using a cracked copy? that's the anti-crack protection
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: do you mean by do i have the cd key ? casue if so yes i do
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: some games have a separate install disc from the play disc...one was the program, the other was the data files
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's a pirated game. it against aard policies, to remind you
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: no, is your cd from a legitimate seller or is it a pirated copy
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you can have fake cd keys easily
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: pirated :p
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then buy the game
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you buy it, it'll work properly :-)
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: there's your problem then ;)
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: people who can't pirate their own games should buy them
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: well, somebody has to
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: just when i though im going to play the game 
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: so if i can get an image file somewhere it will work right ?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: is the game recent or a very very old game
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you get a copy from a store, it will work
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: uhhggggg im not sure where can i check ?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wiki
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: its in 2006
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: be amusing if the game was so old that the game was already out there with source code
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: where can i get an image file ? if i download the whole game from the internet will it help lol ?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: asley, buy the game
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: some games are no longer sold in stores, like Quake I (?)
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aard has rules against actively talking about illegal things
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you could get a game made in 2006 second hand for like $5
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: yeah its not in srores anymore 
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: failing that, download a torrent
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: i have downloaded a toorent but how can i use it ?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WeaponGuy Tech: I'm thinking if you had a complete iso and a crack, you still couldn't get it to work, Asley.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if the torrent wasn't an iso file, find a different one
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: stop asking about illegal things here.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WeaponGuy Tech: You can find games cheap on Amazon and Ebay.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xyliz buys games from discount bins
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WeaponGuy Tech: If you can't afford a used game, then you should probably get a job instead of playing games, anyway.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: my torrent file says type : torrent file is this the one im looking for ?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if you can't afford a $5 game, you need to get an effing job
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maximon Tech: LOL
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: he told me he's pirating games to save money to become a game developer :D
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WeaponGuy Tech: Wow.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: SHE !
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if your torrent file is literally a torrent file (a few k), you need to open it in a torrent client to download the real thing
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: do make sure to come back and tell us which game you developed, so we can make sure to rip it off
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: he until proven otherwise
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WeaponGuy Tech: She? That explains it.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: most girls on the web have schlongs
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: which is weird, cos many of the men don't
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: will any torrent open with a torrent client ?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: think so
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, torrent is just a description of where to download something...it isn't the thing itself
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: will torrent spy work ?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: they can also be easily tracked by anti-piracy teams :P
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what's the game, btw?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: will torrent spy work ?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i like people using torrentz to download games, brings me in work when they infect their computers with viruses
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: just google 'free torrent download' and click as many links as you can
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: go to a russian website and get superinfected
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: using exclusively private trackers here :)
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: free torrent download or free torrent client download ?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: any keywords with 'free' and 'download'
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: works great
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir nods quietly to himself.  What a wacko.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: stop asking aboot pirating stuff around here. if you can't figure it out yourself, you don't deserve it
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: put your handbag down, dagnir
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir waves a large bright red sign reading "NO !!"
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you're not my real dad
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: we need people like you paying for them so we can pirate them instead
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: yeah watev
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: there really isn't any excuse for software piracy these days
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm still curios aboot the game. was it sims or something?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no, not really, farkyss. but i refuse to pay for ea games
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i buy most stuff from steam and donate to indie developers
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: then don't use ea games
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: There isn't? Really? $60-70 dollar games = no excuse?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: games aren't even remotely close to that much these days, yuna
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Not to mention 80-90 if you're Scandinavian or Australian.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: steam has reasonable prices with reasonable drm that i can live with
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yes, yes they are, Farkyss.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: then you're not shopping around
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Just because you're American and have Best Buy doesn't mean many countries average 60-70 bucks a game.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hey, welcome to northern europe
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: and price is no excuse, indeed
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: games are filthy expensive here
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i'm in the UK, and i don't think i've ever paid above 30gbp for brand new releases
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I hear Brazil has retardedly expensive games as well.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: So pretty much EVERYWHERE but North America and possibly Japan.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: and if you're willing to wait a couple of months, you can usually get them for 15 quid
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Europe (mostly Northern), South America, Australia. That leaves NA and possibly Africa, which I have no idea about.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beltegeuse Tech: well, in south europe we dont pay too...
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i never want you to do -my- shopping, yuna, you'd cost me twice as much
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Farkyss, are you even listening?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: new games cost AT LEAST 50 euros over here
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: You CAN'T shop around in Northern Europe (et all)
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: yes you acn
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beltegeuse Tech: 50 euros the cheaper
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Do you live here?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: up to 100 euros. no kidding
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: are you telling me that they don't have Steam there, or ebay, or amazon? because if you say no, then i don't actually believe you
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: 100 euros is aboot 140-150 usd
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: That's not Northern Europe!
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: That's Amazon and eBay!
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that's what i'm saying - i use steam
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: We're talking retail here. And Amazon does not ship games outside of their native countries, so, no, we DON'T have Amazon.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm just pointing out that we're being ripped off
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Also, since when can you download console games off Steam?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: then don't buy it retail
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: amazon doesn't?  i dunno how i convinced them to, then
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i don't
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i pirate them or buy them off steam
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Wait, strike that. Amazon DOES ship outside of its native countries.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and buy the good pirated ones later when they're cheaper
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i think even the Moon has ebay
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: let's leave software piracy off Aard please :)
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: You can get tons of stuff much cheaper than they really are off eBay. Doesn't mean Northern Europe isn't getting ripped off.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Termi Nehtor Tech: Are you removing Hook then?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: how aboot moving to debate? it's not exactly promoting it, but discussing it
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: So your argument that there's no longer any excuse for piracy is "Just eBay it"?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: there's no debate
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: no, my argument is "don't be a cheapa$$ student, go get a job"
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: as long as all the "I pirate it" are left out, discussing the general topic of software piracy on debate would be fine
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volvagia Tech: Where do I get a plugin for spells, when they wear off it automaticly spells me back up?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volvagia Tech: and do they have one for skills?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if you're one of those people who -has- to go and buy it off the shelf at their local store the day it comes, you'll pay top wack for it, and if you're poor, then that just makes you a retard, really
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: We're arguing whether or not it should be legal to pirate games or whether or not it's OK or whatever. The argument was "There's no more excuses for pirating games" to which I reply: O RLY? Because 50+% of the world is getting scammed by the gaming companies.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if you're sensible you'll wait a few weeks and get it online cheaper or get it second hand
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: who you talking to Farkyss
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: and to keep it civil, let's not call people with thin wallets names either please :P
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: everyone, asley, but yuna in particular
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: So basically, out only option to get not-super-expensive games is hoping to catch a break on eBay.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: volvagia, start with http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=8780, then replace the parts of it with http://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/Aardwolf_Spellups
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: oh, i'm all for think walletedness, timeghost :-)
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: If you think the game's too expensive, don't buy it. Period. No excuse for stealing.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: !stealing
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: or just play Aardwolf.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Maybe logic is a lacking element to you, but if a game costs more in Northern Europe than in the U.S. new, it's also gonna cost more when it's a year old.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: i never bought a game in my life and i have about 60 games in shelf 
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: stealing is something different by definition
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: how are you being scammed by the company?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Games just cost tons of money in Northern Europe. 1 year old games average, like, 40-50 bucks in Sweden.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: mass effect, anipopo
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: It's still stealing, whatever you want to call it. At least be honest about what you're doing when you 'pirate' software.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: some of the difference in price is sales tax, some is importation costs
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: ok, seriously. Stealing and piracy discussions off please.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: asley, that's part of what timeghost (IMM) asked us not to say here ;-)
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What part of  "We're not arguign whether or not piracy is OK" did you not get?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: UK games will always cost 15% more than US cos of tax differences
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asley Tech: oops im sorry timeghost
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: it's fine to discuss what constitutes it, but everything concerning promotion/"I did/he did" out please.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: My argument is simply "Stop acting like most of the world isn't getting the shaft when it comes to pricing".
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: how are they getting the shaft?  i simply don't understand your argument at all
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: A game which costs 40 bucks in the U.S. will undoubtedly cost AT LEAST 60 bucks in Northern Europe... if we're lucky!
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yuna, note that anipopo & farkyss aren't in north america...they're in europe
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: the company owns the IP and they set the price at a level that maximises their own profit.  if you don't like that price, don't buy it
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Actually, it's not uncommon for XBOX 360 and PS3 games to go for 80 or so bucks over here.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: then get someone in the US to buy it for you and send it over
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: let's not even talk about the consoles and add-ons (like Guitar Hero guitars or whatnot).
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that's eu bucks, btw
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Farkyss, region locking.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: why not complain that ferraris and porsches cost too much, while you're at it?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: more in usd
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and it's not just the gaming companies choosing to make them more expensive...farky mentioned tax differences in UK, there's also importation, tariffs
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you're in region 2, get someone in region 2 whose not in your country to get it
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: The DJ Hero (or whatever) "mixer board" costs, like, $130 retail in the U.S. and #120 retail in the U.K.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: That's not importation, tax and tariffs, that's just EA or whoever just arbitrarily saying "Let's shaft the UK"
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: and i could probably walk into the second hand games shop in Norwich and get it for 80
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: taxes aside, each company chooses the prices differently based on the market.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Farkyss, you just don't get it, do you? Most consumers don't want to haft to look far and wide to find non-super-expensive stuff merely because the gaming companies think they should pay more just because they live in a certain region.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: now PETROL prices, there you can say you get the shaft!
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: don't-want-to-have-to is not my problem, stop being lazy
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: I had a situation where buying a plane ticket from the EU cost about 200 EUR and buying the same ticket for the same flight for the same company from Russia cost about 1500 EUR
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: yuna, you don't get it... they are trying to maximise their profitability, and are clearly able to sell games at the prices they set.  why should they lower it just because you are cheap?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: at least for games, you DO have options & can shop...you're paying 2-3x as much for gas as us, with zero recourse
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: It's funny how you all just assume pirate games regularly. You know how many Current Gen Consoles I own? ZERO. That's what the price shafting has lead to. I just don't buy games anymore.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Anipopo, YOU just don't get it. The price shafting is leading people to piracy and/or stop buying games!
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if that were true, yuna, they'd not have adopted that pricing policy
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: precisely, farky
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yuna, and when enough people stop buying them, then the price won't "make sense" for them anymore...
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: but saying "the companies made me pirate their games" is deceitful at best
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I'm not saying they're losing massive amounts of costumers because of it. The argument is just "You have no excuse for piracy anymore because games are cheap nowadays!" (originated by Farkyss)
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i'm actually quite surprised they can afford to sell their games at the price they do as is, given how long and how many people are needed to create them these days
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I merely butted in with "Maybe for NA... not for everyone else."
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i remember when games were made by joe bloggs in his bedroom
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: when I realized what Windows is going to cost I moved to Linux, personally. For every problem there's an alternative - depends on what you like.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: This was originally just me debating the fact that Farkyss seems to think that just because games are cheap in NA, they are cheap everywhere.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: farkyss isn't in NA
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yuna, farkyss isn't in na
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's in northern europe :P
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: he's in ripoff britain, where games are expensive (but still cheap in the scheme of things)
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: NE is big. Which part of NE?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: UK
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Hardly NA.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Summoner Yuna looks around with a hungry look in his eyes.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cain killd Abelinc takes out a map
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I mean NE.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, looks pretty north to me
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: games are expensive if you are a student who can't budget, but if you're a responsible adult with a job, they're not
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: Britain isn't in Europe proper anyway :P
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: That's BS.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: You're basically saying "If you're rich, nothing is expensive"
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so hawaii isn't north america...gotcha :P
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, nothing about rich
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: games cost about 15 pints of beer.  that's cheap
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i think the difference is that i come from a background where we worked hard and scrimped and saved for the few luxuries we had. You appear to be from the i deserve everything NOW culture
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: responsible adult != rich
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: Anipopo - I'm no student, but I quit on gaming (and Windows, as for that) because I need to use money wisely
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: UK version of games suck since the files with the cheat-codes are removed or not supplied -- the USA version of the games usually supply the cheat-codes
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: tech I usually don't count the UK as NE, but apparently the UN does. Anyway, the UK gets off pretty leniently compared to Scandinavia and Brazil.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: i quit on windows and ms office too, for the same reason
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: I don't think Hawaii is North America, it's just part of the United States.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the UN and every geography teacher on the planet
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Farkyss, what part of "I don't pirate games. I just don't play them anymore" are you not understanding?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i wouldn't be u sing MS Office if it weren't for getting a free copy through work
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I'm not of the "NOW!" attitude, I'm of the "You wanna rip me off just because I'm Swedish? Fine, I just won't buy your crap!"
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: what's piracy got to do with whether you expect to be able to buy something straight away or not?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: but a responsible adult wouldn't then argue "so i'm gonna STEAL it"
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Abelinc: Not geographically, culturally.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I expect to not get arbitrarily shafted just because I'm Swedish. Because games don't magically cost more to manufacture for Sweden than for the U.S.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: Yuna, I'd say everyone here is agreeing that not buying if you're not liking the product or price is an excellent solution :)
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: this isn't a cultural discussion
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i see every christmas parents getting themselves really stressed and into debt because they have to buy their kids the latest fad, or some expensive laptop
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: The gaming companies just think Swedes should pay more because they can get away with it.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: don't like it - don't use it
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i think it's a disgrace the way kids are brought up these days, personally
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: yeah, i don't suppose swedish taxes influence the price AT ALL
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Timeghost: What part of "I don't use it" did you not get?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: aren't swedish taxes like 50%, anyway?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yes, but even when you discount taxes, Sweden is still getting the shaft.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the state of delaware has no sales tax...there are lots of outlet stores because of that...people drive hours away to buy clothes with no tax...drive to a local EU country that has the games cheaper
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: or sweden's decision not to be part of the eurozone
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: And no, sales tax is NEBER 50%.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: VAT?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: The Euro has nothing to do with pricing.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: VAT is essentially sales tax, btw
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: vat is 18% over here. dunno aboot sweden
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Games are just generally inordinately expensive in Scandinavia, no matter the country. And it was like this even before the introduction of the euro.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: sweden doesn't use euro either
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: I know.  VAT isn't essentially sales tax, it is sales tax.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: also they have to be translated into a language that nobody else speaks
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: VAT depends on what's being sold (less for books than for clothes, for example), but I believe the highest rate is 25%.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: Scandinavia is expensive - the salaries there are high to cover for that. With a German salary, I was feeling pretty damn poor in Sweden.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: most games aren't translated over here. covers only
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: software manufacturers that sell overpriced shoddy buggy software are obviously crooks -- so the customers already 'know' that the software industry is extremely dishonest
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Timeghost: Then explain why Brazil is getting the shaft when it comes to games as well. Are you saying that Brazilians are millionaires?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: high labour taxes will always find their way into the cost of products
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Also, we suffer higher income tax.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: And, if you consider that VAT may be applied to a product or components of the product at various stages of its production, then VAT becomes an excise tax as well.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: so at LEAST take the overall quality-of-life factor into account when discussing prices... we could discuss Japan where everyone's "rich" by US or EU terms in absolute currency
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i think you need to consider how many people it takes to produce a game, how many man hours, then you'll realise why they can't sell them for $10
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: And, again, there's no reason for games to cost more for Scandinavia besides the fact that the companies just want more money. It costs them (pretty much) ZERO extra money to release a game in Scandinavia compared to the U.S. The only diff. is the region coding (if any), marketing (zero in Sweden) and text on the box.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: for example - mass effect cost 60-70 euros here. if you bought it you could only install it thrice. and since it was buggy it basically screwed a lot of people out of their money. i call that a scam
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: frankly, I couldn't care less what the price of a product is. Either in the given country it's reasonable, or not. In the latter case, either I can find it cheaper, or I stop caring and don't use it.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Scandinavia doesn't even get localized games. Only Spain, Italy, France and Germany get that... yet the games cost way more in Scandinavia than in any of those countries.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: but they need to absorb their fixed costs from elsewhere
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Timeghost: It is not reasonable in Sweden.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Anipopo: BS argument. "Let's shaft Sweden instead of selling the game at a reasonable price everywhere!"
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: And you see nothing wrong with that?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: games are as expensive in sweden as they are in estonia and the salaries here are much lower
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: Yuna: In Sweden it costs about 50 EUR to have a dinner in a decent restaurant, vs 25 EUR in Germany
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: no, yet i do see something wrong with taking any course of action other than not buying it
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: sorry, but I'm not surprised the other prices are scaled - the salaries ARE.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: I don't play video games.  I download free pr0n off the net, then adjust my rather low-tech joystick accordingly.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's the game companies' fault too, TG!
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: they obviously DO sell games at the higher price, or they'd go out of business
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: pc games were $40 to $60 in the early 1980s, and that seems to be near the current price in Canada these days -- the price is set at what the market is likely to bear
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that argument is moot, timeghost. read what i said aboot estonia
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Hey!  Leave the Estonians alone.  Their language is punishment enough!
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: I've never been to Estonia, so I can't even comment :)
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: is sweden even in the EU?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Really, Dagnir? Games average 47 euros in Estonia_
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if a game price is set too high, customers refuse to buy  -- those in the EU and UK are already trained to pay high prices
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nah. it's awesome to have a secret language that's not related to anything but finnish and hungarian and has 1m speakers :D
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: yes Fark
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: trained... to behave economically irrationally?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: then yuna's argument is kinda irrelevant, he can order it from any EU country and have it delivered. It's called the common market
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Timeghost: I don't know what snobby eateries you go to.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: 50 euros? In what restaurants? For more "normal" people (not super-rich) dinner for 1 at $15 is already pushing it
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: the statement that the price is right for the overall company profit is pretty damn correct - if they weren't selling, they'd adjust it. Each market/country has a different pricing policy with any global company. As I said before, for a flight you could pay 200 EUR if you had a German CC vs 1500 EUR if you were in Russia
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i'd expect to pay $10-$20 per head in an average local restaurant
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Farkyss: You still don't get it, do you? We shouldn't HAVE to import games!
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: why shouldn't you?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Because then you ARE admitting to the facts that gaming companies are shafting Sweden so much we're "forced" to import games!
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you seem to be blaming the games producers when it's swedish industry's fault
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: no will to import must mean a will to produce the same stuff surely :)
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What Swedish industry?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: swedish retailers
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: swedish retailers can buy the product for exactly the same price that the rest of the EU ca
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: can
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: And we know this how?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if everbody in Swedem refused to buy games above US$50, the price is sure to drop
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're not getting shafted when you have the perfectly-legal and not-absurdely-complex method of getting the game at what you seem to be considering a reasonable price
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it's called the EU for a reason
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Because I know several people who work for retailers and they've never told me that.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: people who "work for" retailers don't know anything
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: c'mon, this is getting silly - if a country doesn't produce product A, it imports product A. The government charges an import tax on product A. The re-seller adds a profit on the sale of product A. And you blame the company that PRODUCED product A?!?!
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: get real. Call the president, I dunno.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: They get to buy games at the price it costs for the retailers to buy the games sometimes. So yeah, they do.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cashier doesn't set the prices...IT guy doesn't set the prices
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, sometimes?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: seems that the eu reseller is paying retail not wholesale
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir nods at Xyliz.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: either it's THEIR job, or you're talking to a stock clerk or a guy with the phone number to corporate and not the one who knows anything
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there is no sometimes about that job
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: haven't Tesco hid Sweden yet?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I want sources for the claim that everyone within the EU pays the same price for games.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: the EU isn't producing the same stuff, imports are always tricky.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: This is the dumbest arguement I've ever heard.  You let the little rich bastards buy the games at the very high "it's just been released" price, then you borrow the game from them when they get bored.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: (as in, they pay the gaming companies the same amount)
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Or you wait until the game is old enough to buy it in the overstock bin.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Spank.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: That's not the point.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: are you saying that we're getting shafted by our retailers? i know people who have record and game stores. they are getting shafted, too
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: no one's "entitled" to a product. Beer in Sweden costs 3 times more than in Germany - why haven't you complained about that yet?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: The fact that NAs can buy games new at "reasonable" prices whilst NEs can't is still a factor. AND the games in the NE overstock bins are still way more expensive than the games in the NA overstock bins.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Beer costs more in Sweden because the Swedish government doesn't WANT people to get drunk.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Beer is taxed extra high ON PURPOSE to make it expensive to be a drunkard.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: the beetles rock band on wii. UK #30, France 44.50 euros, Germany 43.95 euros
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: it's all in the EU, but Sweden rips off with beer prices 3 times the German top price at pubs. Where's "equality" and the righteous anger?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: looks the same price to me, within a little
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: swedes make awesome moonshine. what was it called again?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Also, I'm a teetotaler, so it's kinda not an issue for me.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Beatles.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: now name me the taxes of the Swedish government on video games vs US taxes please, and let's calculate the whole earlier debate from there
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: UK is #39.99 actually, just got 10 off for a limited time
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Games are a waste of time -- perhaps games are more expensive in Europe because the government does not want folk to be wasting human resources playing games
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: How much do games cost in the NA overstock bins? Also, in Sweden, games only go into that bin if they are unpopular. Super Smash Bros. Melee still costs an average of #35 because it's so damn popular and it can never be found in an overstock bin here in Sweden.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: plus the boat trip from california to europe
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Help me.  I'm stuck with this useless US currency.  39.99 Pounds is how much?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: about #60, spank
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: $60, even
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: the pound is about as much as a dollar right now, no? EUR = approx. 1.5 USD
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Holy Hay Carrumba!  It's only $25 over here!
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: $60 retail, i've done a bit of online shopping around and the cheapest i can get it is $40 new, and $25 used
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: and that's in the UK
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: just an example, but that's typical of a new release console game
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: fyi, Sweden's alcohol tax is .23USD per volume percent alcohol over 2.8% per 33.8 fl. oz. :P
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Sales tax for games in Sweden is 25%.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: these games, do they have an MSRP sticker on them? is that MSRP sticker different in UK vs Sweden?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Why is Swedish porn so expensive?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: There is no MSRP on games in Sweden.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: so swedish games are going to be on average 10% more expensive than in the cheapest part of the eurozone
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Why are magazines more expensive in Canada than in the US?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: which amounts to about 5 euroes
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: somewhere between 5 and 10 depending on which way the retailer decides to round
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sales tax...is that computed into prices, or tacked on top at ringup?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Only it's probably a lot more than that. What do games average at in the cheapest parts of the Eurozone?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: so if swedish retailers are selling wii beatles rock band at 55-65 euros it'll be about right
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: music cd's are twice as expensive in estonia than in the us. dunno why's that :\
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: 10 years ago, new release album cds were 14-16 gbp. Now you can get nearly all of them for about 8
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: vat is included in the price here, abe
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Sales tax is always included in prices in Sweden. Absolutely no one uses prices without sales tax UNLESS they specifically note it below (including the price INCLUDING sales tax). I think it's the law.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: higher magazine prices in Canada than the USA were due (1) exchange rate, (2) reduced advertising revenues
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: like here in US, gas already includes all taxes, but sales tax isn't marked, and is added at register, so I'd see an item at $10, but at the register I'd pay $10.60 at 6% sales tax
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: in the US they have to leave the sales tax off most things because it varies state to state
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: No, it was due to the exchange rate and the shipping and handling.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when included in the price, that makes comparisons a bitch
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Farkyss is that 55-65 euroes without any add-ons?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: even county to county/city to city
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: yes, yuna
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: only tax included
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Music CDs are more expensive in Estonia cuz Estonians are tone deaf.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: counties and cities can tack on a percent or two to sales tax if they vote to
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: It's 50 euros for the Wii version. And which country are we comparing with here?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you're comparing with france, germany and the UK
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Mauritius
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: so basically, taking into consideration the swedes higher sales tax, it's teh same price
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: How much does it cost in those countries and what's the VAT over there?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: And what's the cost for the PS3 and 360 versions, because those are much more expensive over here?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: actually, the wholesale catalogues are already expensive. i ordered most of my records from the states or with slightly cheaper price from the catalogue from my friends shop
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: 40 ukp (around 44euros) in britain, 44 euros in france and germany, britain is 15%, france and germany are.. 18?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Or Djibouti
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: And for the PS3/360?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: Germany is 19% VAT atm
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: no idea, only took that as an example
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yes, because clearly the one game = proof of practice.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: fine, i'll check for you
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: and frankly, if A is selling something, A is free to set the price
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: don't like the price - don't buy it
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Back in the 70s there was a company in the US that made porn called Swedish Erotica, but because they were all silents, I couldn't tell if they were Swedish or not.  I think the black guys weren't, but mebbe they immigrated.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: There are barely any black people in Sweden.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: maybe up in the north
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i've been to stockholm
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: ok, xbox360 is a little more complicated
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: don't feed the troll? :)
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Of course they were bare, it was PORN!
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: maybe he was just really tanned
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: barely any blacks in estonia tho
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: but goes as follows
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: maybe 20 total :\
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: If I were black, I'd move to Sweden.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: UK: 39-50gbp (44-55 Euros) France 50-63,  Germany 50-55 
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: to destroy Sweden ?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: while more variance, seems very similar
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: That's a lot of fluctuation. I'm just going by a single store.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: No, if I were black, I'd move to sweden so I could hit on all the blonde chicks.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: well that's just one store
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: (amazon)
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Don't compare Amazon with retail!
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: Spank, direct warning - off here with that, thanks.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: amazon -is- retail
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: amazon is a store to buy stuff from...what's the issue?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: 1) It's online. There's a reason why most "Chepeast Available!" offers exempt online prices. Amazon buys stuff super-wholesale and can therefore allow to sell stuf MUCH cheaper than most other retailers.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're looking ONLY at brick'n'mortar, then THAT's your problem, not any other issue you bring up
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's a dead argument abe
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: There's no Swedish equivalent to Amazon (besides the foreign Amazons).
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: sorry, that was meant for ct
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: the 4 prices it lists for the product int he UK are Kerrison Toys, Toys'R'Us, Game, and some other place
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so use the foreign amazons
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: all are high street shops
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: You still don't get it. Sweden is still getting shafted pricewise.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: so what price is the xbox360 version of beetles rock band in sweden?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: Sweden is getting the price Swedes can afford given the salaries.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: By buying it off Amazon, we're importing it from other countries. We have to pay for extra shipping AND we're not actually buying it in our native country.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: That's like saying Iceland doesn't get the shaft when it comes to potatoes because people can just import their own potatoes.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're importing it from other countries even if you walk down to a corner store for ut
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a US product
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: I cried over the price of a beer in Sweden being the price of a good dinner in Germany - does that count?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: XBOX 360 and PS3 both cost #53 (UK pounds) at Webhallen.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so how do you explain esto prices when we get paid way less than the swedes, timeghost?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i'm far more upset at the price i pay for fuel compared to the americans
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's our own fault that we're not making enough money?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: why cry over the price of a video game?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: And, yeah, Dagnir's Estonia argument stands untouched.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it costs hella lot more for a delivery truck to run to get the games to you in europe than it does in the US
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 2-3x the price of gas
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: Dagnir, I've been to Sweden. I've not been to Estonia, I already said that I can't comment.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the games are pressed in the eu, abe
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: so it costs a whole 3 pounds more to buy it in sweden, and 5 pounds of the difference is the tax
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Timeghost, stop whining about your expensive dinners. I don't know where YOU eat, but 99% of all Swedes don't even go out to eat for 25 euroes per person, let alone 50.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: still delivered
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: in cheap places like poland and lithuania
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that saves just the boat trip, not the delivery truck
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Farkyss, so that\s how you\re doing it? Comparing Swedish prices with the most EXPENSIVE UK prices?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Not the LOWEST UK prices (#40)?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the manufacturing and transport for estos is actually cheaper than for you in the us
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: the most expensive price will be the high street price - that's what you're comparing with
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: provided that the games are shipped from poland/lithuania
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: No, because Webhallen is among the cheaper (if not among the cheapest) chains.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: Yuna, even at cheap Chinese carts the difference was a factor of 2 :) And while I didn't walk into Burger King, I walked by - it was STILL a factor of 2 more expensive vs Germany.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: or are you now suggesting that your swedish high street shops should be selling the games as cheaply as the lowest price i can find int he whole of europe online?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: You want me to pull out the expensive chains like Onoff?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: so I dunno where to eat to get it down
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Timeghost, I wanna know what dinner for one cost at these so-called cheap Chinese "carts" (which we don't have in Sweden, did you mean restaurants) you allegedly thought were too expensive for your tastes.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: Swedes told me it's normal, and compensated by a higher salary - sooooo
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: the RRP for beatles rock band xbox360 is 49.99 gbp (55 euros)
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: some shops are vying for it with 10gbp off
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Apparently OnOff doesn't have Rock Band Beatles.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: but the 49.99 is pretty similar to the prices you've been pulling up
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: Yuna, a standard dish in a pretty shady Chinese place (you may call it a "restaurant", in Germany such things are called "take-away" at best) was about 15 EUR. In Germany the same thing at the same sort of place is 7 at most.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: waiters in Europe receive far more training (several years) than waiters in the USA (a few days)
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: lay off the 'sweden-is-meant-to-be-expensive' for now. how aboot estonia then?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Timeghost, you went to the wrong restaurants!
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Or you came to Sweden in the summer of, like, 2003 or whatnot when the Euro was at 7.5 SEK per euro or something.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: at least call me a bleeding heart liberal who doesn't want to work and get stuff cheap or something
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: you tell me Yuna, I was there for a week and kept going to "the wrong restaurants" having explored the whole city because the prices were biting )
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: 15 euro for a standard dish at a pretty "shady" Chinese place? PAH! At the current exchange rate, 1 dish at the average Chinese (non-shady) restaurant averages for 7.5-9 euroes!
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Did you walk around Stockholm City or something? Because prices are naturally much more expensive at the very center of the city than the rest of the city.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: no, I was actually around Lund :)
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: they gave you the "tourist" menu (with the higher prices)
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Then maybe Lund just shafts people in general. I live in Stockholm, the capital. And I can tell you that Chinese restaurants DON'T average 15 euroes per dish.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: And why has NO ONE replied to Dagnir's argument about Estonia?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bulwark Timeghost Tech: right, now Lund and Malmo have higher prices than anywhere else in Sweden... I can not comment :)
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Because apparently Estonians pay the same for games, yet they make noticeably less.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: the other issue is about buying power - was a recent issue where Tesco were selling a certain popular printer for less than anyone else could buy it in wholesale
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if you're Tesco you can go to a manufacturer and buy 500,000 units. Most distributors will only be buying 1-10,000 at a time
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: Sweden and Estonia are small places, even their biggest national companies have piffling small buying power compared to big multinationals
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tesco's the european wal-mart?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: pretty much, abe
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: don't have one over here. at least not with that kind of name
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: That's the excuse? Few people buy games in Sweden and Estonia, so the prices should stay really high despite the fact that it actually costs less money to sell games in Estonia than in the UK?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: that's the way market forces work, yuna
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: again, that's not the games producers fault
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: sure, but it's still getting the shaft for the consumer
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Fine, I don't care whose fault it is. We're still getting the shaft.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the whole system sucks, not just the developers etc
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: To me, it doesn't matter who is shafting us customers. SOMEONE is, which is why I rarely ever buy games.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: well you've got the opportunity to shop around, you just don't want to
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: kind of weird that i can buy the same product twice as cheap from the states with the shipping than estonian retail
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: so buy it in the grey market and be done with it
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, tesco actually has some stores in the western US now...I worked for a Royal Ahold company for 10 years way back
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I have to buy the console first. And then import games (shipping) from abroad. For things that cost a few cents to press.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: few cents to press, few million bucks to produce
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a few cents to press is NOT the same as a few cents to MAKE
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you had the shipping and manufacturing argument earlier
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: duplication costs only matter once you have the scale necessary
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: doesn't matter any more?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: there's not much point having this argument if you're so deluded about the production costs
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Farkyss, those development costs are already covered by sales in North America
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Production costs in OTHER COUNTRIES.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You fall to the floor laughing at Xyliz's remark.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: heh
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: absorbed by sales across ALL countries
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: You guys actually have PR for games. We have, at most, cardboard cutouts in front of game stores.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, so the US should subsidize your sales, but earlier you said that you shouldn't be subsidizing costs for other locales
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir nods at Summoner Yuna.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: cry me a river, so emigrate to a first world country and spare me the sob story
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Abelinc, that's BS logic.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: WE are subsidizing for U.S. sales!
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: BS? you're contradicting yourself
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Because, let's say that all games cost the same across the entire world. For argument's sake.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you're subsidising, despite the fact the product costs exactly the same there as here
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: if this were true, then Sweden would be subsidizing for the U.S.'s costs since in the U.S., millions of dollars are spent on advertising. In Sweden, almost zero money is spent on advertising, yet we pay the same.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if they were to cost the same everywhere, then the US would be subsidizing more of your share than you are
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: The millions spent on advertising isn't being spent in Sweden, so we're basically paying for the Ameican ads in American magazines/TV/whatnot.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: in India, dvd films cost less than dvd films in the USA 
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you think that sweden actually pays ANYTHING in the scheme of the game's income?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: good reading - http://games.slashdot.org/story/09/08/31/1246219/EA-Spends-3x-More-On-Marketing-Than-Development?from=rss
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a bit full of yourself without anything to back it up
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What the hell does that even mean. "Pays anything in the scheme of the game's income"?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: compare sales of a title in sweden to sales of the same title in the us
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how much the game developer got for sales...sweden's chunk that they paid to the manufacturer in TOTAL dolllars vs US sales
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Can someone tell me the average VAT for games in the US, BTW?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: US pays the game manufacturer MANY orders of magnitude more
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: 5-8% yuna
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's that economy of scale farky mentioned
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: That's very little. Still, games average for, what, 40-50 bucks over there?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: new games can go for 80
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the different regions code in dvd movies is so that dvds may be sold at lower prices in regions were the average salary is a pittance
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Abelinc: Doesn't matter. The games still cost the same to press. And we're NOT talking about a world where games cost the same all over the world.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: So even IF the U.S. gives game companies much higher revenues, it's still not "fair" for Europe to have to pay 33% to double the price of American games just because fewer people buy games in Europe.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the games cost the same to press...they don't cost the same to sell
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: They cost more to sell in Europe how?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and they probably don't even cost the same to press
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: You put it on a shelf, you sell it. And?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: where's this 33% to double come from?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: HAHAHAHAHA
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so pressing the game means some guy with a burner at home burned it and walked it to the store?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Farkyss: Have you been to Best Buy and Wal-Mart? Because I have. And videogames and controllers and consoles and whatnot cost much less over  there than over here.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Are you arguing that because it MAY cost, what, a few cents more per game to press games in Europe, 33% to double the price is OK?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: only if you catch them on promotion
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: like i said, most stuff is pressed in poland/lithuania and it's probably cheaper than in the us
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: or do you actually think that it costs an average of 20 bucks more per disc to press in Europe?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: unit labour costs are much lower in the US than in sweden
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: when Arab and Indian merchants sell products at the retail level, they often prefer to sell in huge volume at low prices
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: WE DON'T PRESS GAMES IN SWEDEN!
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: i imagine property costs are also much lower
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then YOU IMPORT
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WHICH COSTS (see, we can shout too)
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: It costs an average of 10-30 bucks per game to import now or what?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: And no matter where in Europe you look, games still cost inordinately a lot more than in the U.S.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: imagine the costs of pressing the game in lithuania and exporting it to estonia...
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: everyone in the chain that touches it gets their cut...
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: In other words, Europe as a whole is getting shafted!
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the baltic cd/dvd factory is located there
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: so it's free to rent a shop lease now, is it?  staff in sweden and the US work for nothing, do they?  there are no corporate income taxes?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Abelinc, are you saying that all 52 states press their own videogames?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ice Mage Demonspawn sits down and thinks deeply. 
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: shop overheads are -considerably- higher in europe than in the USA
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: The states have to import/trasport games from each other too.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope, but we pay less to ship
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: our gas prices are 1/3rd yours
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yuna, they'll just print more money when stuff gets too expensive :P
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: staffing costs are considerably more in europe than in the USA
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Games cost the same before the gas hike.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Really, Farkyss? In ESTONIA?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Have any of you been to Estonia?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gas prices were 1/3rd your before the gas hike as well
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: when jews and hoity-toity Europeans sell products at the retail level, they prefer to sell at high prices and low volumes (less work involved)
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Never bought a game that was worth the money, anyway. Go do a quest for free now.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: yes, yuna, requires 100 stone-age men in estonia to do the job of one skilled US worker
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also, i imagine shipping stuff in containers within europe is cheaper than sending me couple of copies from the states and i still pay half
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: then they need to employ the armed guards to make sure it doesn't get nicked
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You giggle in his presence.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: can't really compare estonia to the west, you might as well say "well crap, games cost WAY more in baghdad than in the US"
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Basically, none of you guys have any arguments whatsoever to explain why Estonia, of all places, is also getting the shaft, so you all ignore the Estonian argument and/or come up with lame jokes to cover your lack of arguments?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: btw, for your earlier question...there is no VAT in the US
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: There's is NO sales tax on videogames in the U.S.?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: when did Tech become the debate channel?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: the whole eastern block economy hasnt balanced to the rest of europe yet
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i was waiting for you to call it a shithole and say it doesn't matter :P
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sales tax is by state, and county/city can add to that if they vote it
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: delaware has no taxes
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's why all banks are headquartered there ;-)
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: This does in no way equate to "In all 52 states, there's 0% VAT on videogames".
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm sure you know about the eastern european countries and realize there's a huge difference between the countries there
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes it does, yuna
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I asked for the AVERAGE VAT on videogames across the 52 states.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vat is not sales tax
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Not for what certain random places like Delaware (a TINY state, BTW) may or may not have.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: various countries are getting the shaft because those controlling the wholesale and retail outlets prefer prices that shaft the customers
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the prices you see on games in the US, DO NOT INCLUDE any sales tax
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I did not know that. Then sales tax.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: our taxes are NEVER included, we ONLY have sales tax
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: other than for special things like petrol...they do include those, so you pay exactly the price per gallon
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Oh, boohoo. 7-8% sales tax on videogames adds up to, like, 3 bucks per game.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: ooh, leave petrol out of this, or i'll steam at you
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You giggle in his presence.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: prices per pint...how cute ;-)
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or litre
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: tuna's shafted couple of euros a game is nothing compared to how robbed we get on petrol
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: petrol? so why is it cheaper to send me single copies from the states than to transport them in bulk?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I've gotta run. Gonna take a shower and then go eat at an mid-expensive Chinese restaurant (Timeghost, take note: It costs 14 euroes! Le GASP!)
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir nods at Feral Farkyss.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: don't care, not rich enough to eat out
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: so don't eat out and buy the next goddamn game you feel like stealing
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: i never eat out... too expensive... i just walk in and take what i like from the kitchen
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: stealing is walking out of a shop with one without paying?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we go out to eat every friday night :-)
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Sweden gets shafted when it comes to petrol for the same reasons as alcoholics have to pay more for booze: Punishment for using something that is detrimental to society as a whole (even without global warming, petrol is limited in quantities)
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: bum argument, so ignored
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: basically, it's the Swedish governments way of getting people to buy less petrol. Which is why our major cities have really good public transportation.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir . o O ( no godwin yet... )
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hitler is hiking up the game prices!
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: "cheaper to send a European single copies from the states than to transport them in bulk" because some European middleman is taking a huge cut of the action
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you know fuel is too expensive when people we buying up gallons of vegetable oil from supermarkets and manufacturing biodiesel from it, and having it work out cheaper than buying it at the pump
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Anipopo: I feel like I'm justified in telling you to SHUT UP because apparently you read NOTHING. I don't steal games. I don't even HAVE a Wii/PS3/XBOX 360 and I rarely ever play on my PS2 anymore. I just don't consume games in general because of the prices. I play lots of multiplayer games (fighting games) for which I simply visit people with the games.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: don't think anyone transports single copies on an entire ship :p
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: This is the 3rd or 4th time I've been forced to say this. Stop assuming I'm a game pirate because I hate the pricing!
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: gas prices will really be too high when people convert their cars to run on pure ethanol and start feeding vodka into their gas tanks.  "One for you, one for me."
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: heh
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: My solution to high petrol costs, game costs and alcohol costs: I just don't buy any of it.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I don't drink, I don't drive and I don't buy games. That's what the high prices do to a lot of people who aren't rich (like, say, the majority of people who are of gaming age who do not have rich parents)
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: come to estonia for a drink. it's slightly cheaper here :)
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the ship tickets cost nothing anyway
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I just want hops prices to drop.  Making my own beer is starting to get real expensive.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i intend manufacturing my own power and fuel in later years
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how much would a train ticket be between se & ee?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: well you live in sweden.  that's what a high tax economy does to people.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: producing ethanol from corn is a conspiracy to drive up the price of corn (and food), and to keep the price of oil high
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: lol, train. under the sea, right?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: great public services don't build themselves.  so suck it up, or emigrate
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: we're creeping up towards $7 a gallon here again
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: in Europe, you are not supposed to play computer games, you are supposed to get a better education that the gameplaying dullards in the USA
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so only 2.5x us
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nogs, only
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: unfortunately, while i see buying video games as a luxury i can do without, not being able to get to work/the shops isn't
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: why does european petrol cost 2.5x that of USA gasoline -- somebody in Europe is getting extremely rich from the price difference
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: governments
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it's all tax
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nearly 90% of the price of fuel in the UK is tax
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: they made a plan of raising the tax on fuel year on year in order to get people to use public transport.......without actually bothering to implement any public transport
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: so now the money goes into the big tax pot that we pay foreigners to come into the country and breed on the dole, and chavs to sit on their touches
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if there were an iq test required to enter Europe, then maybe the damage from foreigners be not so great
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: dunno about that, just think it'd be a start to require immigrants to be able to speak the language and have a job
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Farkyss, I think most countries would like that.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: is being a 'career criminal' a 'job'
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: it has the word "career" in there, so I guess so.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: imho marketing is wasted on games, if a game is good it gets viral...
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: career criminals wouldn't say so, otherwise tehy couldn't claim for benefits as well as their clandestine employment
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Well, Farkyss, at least we can agree on one things: The UK should ban being a chav.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if it did that, more than half it's population would be in prison
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: agreed
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: with both
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Or at least start taxing chav wear with 50% sales tax.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: that isn't going to help is it, where do you think they get their money from int he first place?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Well, it'll force them to be more reckless with their crimes, thus making it easier to catch the idiots.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nah, should just castrate all chavs after the first kid
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Doesn't the UK have one of the highest teen pregnancy rates in Europe or something?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: like china
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (late...that was for the first kid thing)
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: similarly they should make non-payment of child maintenance a criminal offence punishable by 10 years in a  work camp
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: Hmm... in zmud what would be the best way to get all the room id's with a shortname out of the mapper?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: sql
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: the best way?  Get someone extremely knowledgeable in zmud to be your zmud slave.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chosig agrees!
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft beams with pride at Blessed Balaam.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cain killd Abelinc peers at Ozzy intently
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: none of them logged in atm :(
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chosig bonks himself and grimaces in pain.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: tech #show %mapquery("[IDName] NOT LIKE ''")
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: helps if you can spell LIKE :P
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: just wondering if there's a de facto speedwalker script for mush?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: mis
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I wrote a fabulous plugin
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: sharing it?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: yeah, it's on the web--should be a new version coming out soon as I get around to posting it
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: http://geocities.com/swalecaardwolf/ is the location
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: great, thanks
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: the new version has inbuilt iwuvaard directions, clan recall support and a few other bits
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: but it needs tidying before I release it
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: cool
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Anyone here with an iphone?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: there's an app for that
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: ....
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Anyone familiar with Grabit?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: damn. laptop fan cycles are driving me crazy
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: can anyone recommend a fix? googling for it fails
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: haven't found anything that works for me
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: okay so now next question... (I just upgraded to cMUD, so I'm redoing everything from scratch)... is there a way to turn OFF the mud's word-wrap? So then I can use cMUD's window-wrapping instead?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: AFAIK, the MUD doesn't word-wrap
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Well, except for notes, of course.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: you sure? cause if you do something like... "look", then no matter if the clietn has wrap on or not, it wraps...?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: descs too, descs and notes
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Well, room descriptions have carriage returns in them
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Assuming the builder formatted them
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: okay :P
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: So you won't be able to with those
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: that pretty much answers my question then cause I wanted to remove that formatting :(
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Although I'm not really sure why arbitrary formatting is on room descriptions.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: hrmmm... wonder how much of a pain it would be to ask for no formatting in room descs? :P
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aristarchus Tech: im thinking everything is written just how notes are written
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Nods, builders can stick carriage returns wherever they want them if they're needed...makes sense to me to not have arbitrary ones every 80 characters
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: hrmmmm
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I like the arbitrary formatting, please don't change it.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It would look extremely bad for the MUD to try wrapping text to the entire width of my screen.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: then wonder if there is a way to make cmud/zmud/etc *remove* the arbitrary carriage returns.... 
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: why would you want to?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Most things aren't wrapped, Starling.  Channels aren't, for example.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: cause I like my screen real-estate :)
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: . o O (  ) Habasi is beating Starling about the head and shoulders with a three-foot gator like a two dollar whore.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Channels are one things, room descs are another entirely
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: s/things/thing
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: What makes them another thing entirely?  Just curious.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: What makes them different?  What makes them the same? :P
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you can script it to be spit out in one line and wrap it like you want to
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: spat*
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Just seems like an arbitrary decision to wrap some things but not others.  Let the user decide, rather than the MUD.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Or just wrap everything
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It doesn't make sense though, Leinei
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: But letting the MUD decide on some things, and the user on others seems a little odd to me
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Wrapping descs, makes sense because it was intended to look a certain way
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Where as autowordwrap on channel text, won't mess with anything
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: it's not really wrapped...
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Intended by whom?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: well leinei, that was kinda my arguement... most clients actually have an option to set the client's own word wrap based ont he user's preference
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: it's just carriage returns
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Builders can still put carriage returns wherever they want them
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: But if I really have to spell it out, then I would argue that formatting room descs to 80 characters width makes them easier to read, as they come up as blocks of text.  The formatting makes them look nice and neat.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: myrkul's right tho :P
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: And not MUD-wrapping wouldn't affect that
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: But, if they put CRs at every 80 chars, it'd look identical =p
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Maybe a 'maxwidth' setting should be added, analogous to 'scroll'
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aristarchus Tech: if they truncate words, yeah
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: who cares about formatting, so long as the mapper captures it?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: like heck I have paging off... cause I find it annoying.  most clients have a scroll back buffer these days :P
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: unfortunately every room desc in the mud won't be re-written to add that command, starling
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: chuft- that is actually exactly!! my issue
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: just got home from dinner
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I wouldn't expect them to
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Oh? What'd you have, Chuft?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: recall room, prime example.  zmud automapper *hates* the wrapped "game.) ...."
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: steak and eggs, but I wasn't following the conversation is what I meant
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: . o O (  ) Habasi wanders off to the kitchen.  What's that burning smell?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Oooo. Any fancy marinades? Personally I like A1 on my steaks
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: not that I can't get around it, but its annoying :P
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: there are a few scripting tricks to making itbehave perfectly, mostly usage of subs and roomtags
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: yeah.  erm... subs?  i know about roomtags...
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: check the zuggsoft forums
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: oh... duh nvm.  substitue 
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: with correct spelling :P
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: but I maintain a complete zmud worldmap for my clan, heh
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: nwo that would be something that would be a nice addition to the aard wiki tho 
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: the zmud worldmap? no chance, make your own :P
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I'll buy it for 10 TPs chuft =p *duck*
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: oh map... derr... misread workshop (i.e. settings)
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: oh, that, mebbe
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I think people shoiuld have to work at their own scripting for that kinda thing, too
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: get fiendish's bigmap script, his automap capture, and just wander the world with the two open. it will map perfectly. just be aware of exits like OC
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: already too much stuff handed to people on a plate
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods at Iron Duck Chuft.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: habasi, there is really one main reason I like my automapper.  well, I lied.. a few.  I can sw to specific rooms, the automapper can get there in less moves in many cases, etc. etc.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I should play with the mapper one of these days
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: now what I *really* should work on once i get the scripts for the mapper working right (and brushing up on my scripting skill) is to make a script that can read the mini and bigmaps and generate a whole area....
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: so I dont have to visit every room manually
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: that's not possible, you'd still need to go in the rooms for the names/descs
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: yeah I know :P
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: but you have to admit it'd be freaking nice to have it mapped, but with say, unvisited rooms colored different :P
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: now what I need to do is get the mapper to ignore everything but directions, and text that is known to affect movement/teleportation in any way.....
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: hate that it sits there and queues up every single freaking command... including chat :))
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: the bigmap grid never changes or gets pushed around into odd shapes like the mini does.  Aside from the actual data that the automapper has to depend on to be any sort of useful, it very much is possible to generate an area just by parsing the ascii art.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: there was actually a 'mapdata' tag on the testport that was used to draw a 3d version of the aardwolf map, and it actually worked (although every room looked like castle wolfenstein regardless of sector because that's all the graphica we had).
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: it was dog rough, but running around aard in 3d was kind of amazing.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: and it was nothing more than a lua plugin for mush (Nick wrote it)
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Sounds cool
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: oh, I was talking to stomp about something similar driven from the zmud map db
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: he also worked on something like that
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: quick one for anyone that uses cmud... I understand that cmud supports LUA... so does that mean I can use a mushclient script?
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: could use the mushclient's bigmap script (and maybe a few others) if that is the case...
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Just because a language is supported, it doesn't mean that the API is supported...  so, no.
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: you would need to change all the MUSH functions to ones that work on CMUD and even then the returns would be different I would think
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: oh... kk so no go there :P
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: what Balaam said
T1/r7/2009-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: any photoshop/CSS gurus willing to check out an image issue I can't figuer out for me?
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dick Tater Fertain Tech: anyone know how to put an alias inside and alias in MUSHclient?
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: change Send to to execute
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: any use atlantis for their mud client?
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: never heard of it--what OSs does it support?
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argot Tech: mac osx
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: heh, didn't think anyone would know of it :P
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: figures. I'm looking for a good one to use on a new Ubuntu install.
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: blah blah
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: oops mis
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: anyone here know alot of vb1 basically vb6 that goes with access well
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: vba*
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: not vb1
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: What's the question?
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: i need to brush up on it i know vb6 and sql any tools to help play with access i dont have access on my machine
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: microsoft have a free access?
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: and hey oladon
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Excel uses VBA.
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: So if you have that...
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: i dont have office at all 
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: lol i use open office
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: i am a linux fag
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: i just watn this job
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Library is a good solution, then.
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: haha ok thanks
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: http://www.microsoft.com/exPress/download/
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: using access plus vb6 cant be harder then perl amirite?
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Perl isn't hard...
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: it is when you learn it by reasding other peoples programs
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: That's the best way to learn a language -- reading and writing.
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: haha i hate reading perl
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: i hate reading my perl script even
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: c++ now thats a language i love to read
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon twitches nervously.
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: You go do that...
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: haha i was raised on c then c++
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: mmm
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: i guess its jsut cause it was my first language
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: i know a kid that does graphics in assembly because thats how he first learned it
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: so hows everyone doing havent seen tech channel spammed with stuff all day
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Liath beckons for everyone to follow.
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: sorry testing some stuff...
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aristarchus Tech: WTB competent router.
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: define
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: hrmm... anyone usign cmud that has issues with it beign completely retarded when you enter more than one direction at a time?  like its not "seeing" rooms and stuff?  (I am using name and exit tags, with triggers... still fubar)
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: this is gunna drive me bonkers
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: compact mode doesn't seem to help it, and niether does modifying the prompt to include a newline...
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tod Tech: is there a way to get mccp bonus on mxit?
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I hope not.
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tod Tech: lol.. why not?
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Nevermind.  Try posting your question on Tech board if nobody can answer it on this channel.
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: dunno, but i wish mccp client built into zmud was a bit more reliable
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaspious Tech: anyone know anyplace to get some nice cmud scripts alot of my old zmud scripts not workin
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Souril Tech: How come my Chat bwindow does not work on Mush Client?
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: hrmm... tech is actually quiet
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Elchanan starts to hear the faint sounds of a cricket chirping.
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: this is a bad sign, it means everything's working like it's supposed to...
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: eeek!
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Or it means the channel is experiencing technical difficulties.
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: although... I really wish I could get ahold of chosig
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: he's my cmud automapper guy :P
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: whatcha need help with?
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: well, he helped me with some things to get the mapper to behave right, but i lost a lot of stuff he helped me with before, like scripts for protals, and he had this trigger that if I used the mapper to speedwalk it would automatically turn off the "mapper mode"
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: I had my Hard-drive die on me 2 days ago... been re-configuring everything and re-doing all of my scripts
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: unfortunately I lost all the work I'd been doing with getting portals to work like I want em to... along with my automatic equipping of whatever I had in my hands before I used the portal (i.e. 'rec' would remove my second-wield weapon/held item, equip the right portal, enter, re-equip held/second, etc.)
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: lol it suddenly got *quiet* :))
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: what's the mapper mode you're referring to?
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: in c/zMUD the automapper has Off, Follow, and Map modes
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: oh, that.
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: thought you meant something gameside
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: he had a nice oninput trigger that shut off the Map mode, and put it in follow mode when you used a speedwalk from inside the mapper
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: or any time you used .path format speedwalks
T1/r7/2009-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: and replaced the mud-side run command, etc.
T1/r7/2009-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: trying to change my wp page theme, but every new theme breaks years worth of posts there. the text position is messed up. any advice on fixing a thousand posts at once?
T1/r7/2009-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gangrene Tech: can someone please verify... does www.school-house-rock.com take you to a spanish-english dictionary advert instead?
T1/r7/2009-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: confirmed
T1/r7/2009-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gangrene Tech: trying to figure out if my
T1/r7/2009-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gangrene Tech: ok thanks
T1/r7/2009-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gangrene Tech: was hoping firefox wasn't f'd up.
T1/r7/2009-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ArmHead Tech: I'm getting all this extra info like {/help} and <MAPEND>. How do I turn it off?
T1/r7/2009-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Tags quiet should fix it.
T1/r7/2009-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: help tags
T1/r7/2009-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Or tags off.
T1/r7/2009-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ArmHead Tech: Perfect! thanks!
T1/r7/2009-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rickit Tech: test? newb trying to join channel here
T1/r7/2009-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rickit Tech: Hi.  In my MUSHclient the stats window is not displaying my stats, any suggestions?  Thank you very much.
T1/r7/2009-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: try sending the statsmon command?
T1/r7/2009-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rickit Tech: That didn't work :(.  I won't worry about it for now, maybe a reboot will fix as it used to work correctly.  T hanks for the advice!
T1/r7/2009-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coriolis Tech: which fonts work best? I know courier....
T1/r7/2009-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Any monospaced one usually works fine for MUDs.  I use FixedSys, personally.
T1/r7/2009-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Wingdings is the best mudding font, so I hear
T1/r7/2009-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: is that different than Symbols?
T1/r7/2009-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: assumedly.
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: hmmm why would my campaign mob mini winow plugin have stopped working?
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: any ideas?
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: everything else appears to be working correctly
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: when i kill a cp mob the cp check trigger goes off...just no miniwindow ever appears/is updated
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: this is with mushclient 4.40
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: using zmud, is there a setting that overrides ; as comment character in aliases ?
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: erm... i dont think there is but just curious as to why you woul dneed to?
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: How can you tell if your computer has SATA without openingit up?
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: check your device manager
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: or your BIOS settings
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Where in the Device manager would it be listed?
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: under hard drives?
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I want to check whether or not my computer has a SATA port whatsoever, not whether or not I already have a SATA HDD.
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: like an external SATA?
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: or just one internal that's free?
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Internal SATA for installing a new (inernal) HDD.
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I don't know if my board even has SATA since it's kinda old (3+ years) and my friend told me older computers don't have them.
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: have you made any upgrades to your computer since it was new?
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: No.
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Well, i added a wireless card.
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: View devices by connection.  It shouuld be listed by the USB controllers.
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: No wait, scratch that, that was the old computer. This one came with a wireless card.
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: the wireless card won't affect that. You can also look at the model number and look up its specifications.
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Do SATA ports appear as a separate entry?
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Because there's nothing SATA-like among my USB-ports
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: they should appear as a separate entry.
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: you can buy for cheap a SATA controller if your board is to old,like $15
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: It will be under something like Intel blah blah blah  ->  something Serial ATA blah blah
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I just wanted to know if I had one to begin with first before buying a new one. Now I know.
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I don't even have an entry called Intel o_O
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I had a hard time finding decent boards with PATA in 2006.  If it's relatively knew, you should be fine.
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Just checked all of Device Manager. No trace of SATA. I guess I'll have to buy a card.
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: well, you will have to open the box to put the drive in anyway.  Wait a bit on the card.
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilkes Tech: where can i find a working quest report script?
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keltezaa Tech: i need some help with my mush client the chat server keeps disconnecting me 
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keltezaa Tech: hello..? anyone there?
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keltezaa Tech: HELP>>PLEASE...!!!!!!!
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: why?
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keltezaa Tech: finaly some responce
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: response to what?
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: haven't been here long
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I think most people don't use MUSH's chat feature
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: most people don't use MUSH period
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You pat Feral Farkyss on his head.
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keltezaa Tech: from somone....:/ my chat keeps crashing givving error message "the chats server closed the connection
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: what's wrong with your clan channel?
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I think you'd be surprised by a more current poll, farky
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: clan channel?
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: yeah, if you want to chant with your friends, use friend channel, or group tells, or clan channel, why need a whole seperate chat client?
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a level 8 newbie with 16 hours doesn't have a clan channel
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: they have all other mentioned tho
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keltezaa Tech: the "chats" window on mush... keeps resetting
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: keltezaa, chats window is different than the chat server
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keltezaa Tech: ....[ Connect time exceeded - Disconnecting ]
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: kelt, what are you trying to accomplish, though?
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you may be trying to use a feature thinking it's one thing, when that's not what it's for
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keltezaa Tech: it does that every 2 minutes, and is verry annoying
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it sounds like you've got it set to try to use out-of-MUD chats, while you're not actually using them
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keltezaa Tech: ....Disconnected on Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 7:34 PM...Disconnected on Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 7:34 PM....Connected for 0 days, 0 hours, 1 minute, 41 seconds.
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to game -> configure -> chat...UNcheck everything there
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keltezaa Tech: every thin is "un-checked"
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keltezaa Tech: every thing is "un-checked"
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keltezaa Tech: and ampty
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keltezaa Tech: and empty
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keltezaa Tech: darn what is ti with my typing...:(
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you go to game -> chat sessions, does it say Not currently accepting incoming calls, and have a blank table?
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keltezaa Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, when you get the message that the message that connect time exceeded, is that in a separate window or one of your MUSH windows?
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it appears that chat settings are per-world, which means that any of your individual windows (aardwolf, map, stats, etc) could have it enabled, but all of the other windows would show it as disabled
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keltezaa Tech: i have the "default" windows and it is only the chats window that "disconects"
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keltezaa Tech: ,,.. so what do i need to do?
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, so make sure that the chats window has focus, then go to game -> configure -> chat and see if anything is checked
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if nothing, then go to game -> configure -> IP address, while still having Chats being the focus...you want the IP address to be 0.0.0.0
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keltezaa Tech: ok done that
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keltezaa Tech: , thanx guy's, it stopped...
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: does anyone know why remorting would have stopped all my scripts from working and how i can fix it?  this is on mushclient...spellup script and campign checker script both dead in the water
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i asked last night got no response this is highly frustrating...i have no idea what changed except my in game status which should not do anything to clint side scripts
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: What happened?
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: both the spellup script and campaign mob checker mini window script stopped working after i remorted last night
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: when i type spellup it defaults back to the in game spellup command even though i've checked that the script is still installed and enabled
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: (mushclient)
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: it is odd because i see no reason why remorting would break anything since that is mud side
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: Could it be that you don't have a certain skill or spell anymore?
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: possibly but i can't even type spellup help or anything to try to fix my list of spellups for the script...it all defaults to the mudside spellup command
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: and the campaign mini window script seems like it has nothing to do with anything
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Alas, I know nothing about MUSHclient.  It could be a bug, or maybe the script just lost track of your level or something.  You should probably post a note on the Tech board.
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cookar, look at the spellups window...anything showing up there?
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: figured it out i'm an idiot it turns out
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: How so?
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what was it? I'm sure we'll get the question from others as well, so it helps to know where to point people
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i had disabled aliases in configuration because they were not relevant to my current level at the moment
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You roll on the floor, laughing hysterically.
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, that'd do it :-)
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: apparently that messes up any scripts that have aliases in them
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: weird.
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: so i just had to go into each alias and disable them individually
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, it's better that it does mess up the scripts...otherwise just trying to send stuff literally to the MUD would be really hard (disable aliases, then disable every plugin installed)
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: there is no bypass character? like / or something that forced something by aliases?
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you would probably do better to just not have aliases that would interfere with normal gameplay at certain levels
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I can't imagine having a bunch of aliases that I'd need to disable when I remort
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: ehh technically i only really needed to disable one...and the only reason i need it disabled is for quests to den of thieves
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: Depends on the client and what kind of bypass you're talking about.
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: If it's a difference in syntax, for instance, you can bypass using a clever #if statement in the alias.
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: oooh...could i put level restrictions in my aliases? that would be really cool
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: (mushclient)
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I put level checks in all of mine.
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: You can, but you'd have to capture information about what level you are at.
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Ridiculously easy
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keltezaa Tech: uhm guy's, me again....:P.. can i turn off all the chats in my aardwolf window and let it only show on my chats window? cause i now get "spammed" on both...
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: What client?
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keltezaa Tech: chats like "newbie & gossip"
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keltezaa Tech: how can i turn the spam off on the aardwolf window in the mush client?
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keltezaa Tech: how can i turn the spam off on the aardwolf window in the mush client? but still have it in the chats window?
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maximon Tech: nospam?
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endless Dereliction Tech: Is there a way to gag something in zMUD without it displaying a blank line?
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alixana Tech: can you change font in zmud?
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: kelt, type "chats echo off" to have them only show in the chats window and not in the main window
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and peloso, the included plugins already know your level...everything in statmon is a global variable in MUSH, available to other plugins
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dereliction, to gag in zmud without displaying a blank line, it's #gag 2 iirc
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which is basically gagging the text of the triggered line, then gagging the line itself
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: nod, I haven't messed around with the aard plugins too much yet, I was assuming that it was a freshly coded system.
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: can MUSH load tintin++ scripts ?
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavelost Tech: my cmud is stupid and broke...when i open cmud everything is just fine, and then i click on aardwolf to come join you guys...and the background disappears...for those with cmud or zmud...that black area goes gray and i can't see anything...i am online yes, i asked blindly for a clannie to page me and sure enough...i got paged...
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavelost Tech: any clues as to what the problem might be?
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: fubar'd colour settings?
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavelost Tech: ?
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavelost Tech: just a sec...
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavelost Tech: anyone think they can help?
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavelost Tech: omg...it is suddenly working!
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavelost Tech: nevermind :)
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: I'm using MUSH. How do I omit something from the output?
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: give more context
T1/r7/2009-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: Got it in tells thank you all
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: ok i'm trying to set up the trigger naomii suggested but i want to have it autorecast until succesful when it triggers like the spellup script does
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: how can i set that up?
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: WAY TO BE VAGUE!
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: oh my god 48 minutes of double...i probably am not getting an answer any time soon...mayb noexp is a bad idea
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: cookar send tells
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: Clearly there should be 1 hour of double qp.
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: So, 2 quests? =p
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: There are times when that happens.
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: stay up an hour later
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Its typically qreset windows
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: Hey, it's good for people who campaign fast. Heh.
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: used to be anyway
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: pretty sure dbl qp doesn't affect cps?
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: It doesn't.
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: In vim, how hard is it to highlight every line that does not contain a word?
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: if i can't access 4 websites based on my machine, and havent been banned from those sites.... do i need a proxy?
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: will somebody write me 2 triggers for tinyfugue in return for 1 million gold?
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: check with abelinc when he's on...
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: he is logged in
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: so check with him
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: is there a good mud client for mac?
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: I use tintin++ on my mac
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: tinyfugue is also pretty good for any UNIX based system
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: hrmm... seem to have forgotten something.  is there a way to get a gauge in z/cMUD to fire when it reaches its low state?
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: want to make it update a window when it gets low.  Gues I could use a trigger on the variable but that is kidna blah
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd imagine you'd put the criteria to fire into whatever is setting the values for the gauge in the first place (statmon, etc), but I don't use z/cmud
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: yeah that is what I figured... will have to put it in the trigger :P
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: wintv7 is a big improvement over 6
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: woot for crying out loud! vsplit in screen! (late to notice as ever)
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hun Tech: hi guys anyone knows how to use alias to call another alias?
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hun Tech: this is for MUSHclient
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hun Tech: off
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starlight Tech: Can someone walk me through setting an alias into the mush client please?
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game -> configure -> aliases
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: put what you want to type to activate it into the top sliver part...put what you want it to do into the huge part under that
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: then add 
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, add
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: most of the stuff on the dialog will work fine on the defaults
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to have it do multiple things, just hit enter when in the big part
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: it's not as complicated as it looks
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starlight Tech: okay
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starlight Tech: I want to alias ki to backstab, then a second attack..
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starlight Tech: how would I do that?
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starlight Tech: like ki *mob*
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the top part, put "ki *"
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the bottom, put "bs %1", hit enter for a new line, then type the second thing you want it to do
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starlight Tech: so what would be a good spell to use after backstab? lol
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rithlin Tech: blind :)
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: Alternatively, you can keep track of when you're fighting or not in a variable. Then do something like #if (ighting == 1) {combat spell} {backstab %1}
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: Then you can just keep mashing the alias and it'd do the thinking for you.
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starlight Tech: woot, Thankyou guys
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starlight Tech: apparently ki * isnt the correct symbol to put in?
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do NOT check the box next to "regular expression", and yes ki * is the right thing to put in, if you want to be typing, for example, "ki guard"
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starlight Tech: =( its not working
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what does it do when you type "ki guard"?
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starlight Tech: FOund it, It was on command inste dof world.
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starlight Tech: Thankyou for showing me that, I lost everything for the client I was using so I just picked up mush
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starlight Tech: Dang AV2009 LOL
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: backups ;-)
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starlight Tech: Thats nothing, While I was on vacation my husband got AV2010
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: anyone here good with older laptops/computers 
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: sure. depends tho
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: just ask your question
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: don't assume people will come reporting in without knowing what the problem is
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i have a compaq presario 1275 i bought at a garage sale a few days ago, just got a new power supply, windows wouldn't boot. formatted, installed redhat, redhat wouldn't boot. windows 2000 wouldn't boot. however, DSL off the cd boots just fine.. bad hard drive?
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: define wont boot
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DaRicoDude Tech: tried win 95,98?
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i have a compaq presario 1275 i bought at a garage sale a few days ago, just got a new power supply, windows wouldn't boot. formatted, installed redhat, redhat wouldn't boot. windows 2000 wouldn't boot. however, DSL off the cd boots just fine.. bad hard drive?
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: sorry for double
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: it installs, on redhat it gets to "configure kernel [ok]" and then stops
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It's a Compaq Presario, that's the problem :P
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DaRicoDude Tech: try setting the hdd the 1st priority boot device
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: Heh, sad but true.
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: ok, running scandisk right now for a surface check, just looking for options. after i get 2k installed again on it i'll set hdd as primary and go from there.
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: The installation of all this software is okay?
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: not a hitch on install
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: What error message do you get when it fails to boot?
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: no error. it just doesn't
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: before the format, tried to boot using last good configuration, the bar went across the screen, and stopped there for 20 minutes
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: Did you try booting in safe mode?
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: same
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: thats why i put on redhat
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: When I was looking into buying a laptop, I read a lot of reviews on brands, including Compaq.  A few of the complaints were due to having a lot of problems installing Linux on Compaqs, with calls to tech support receiving the answer "We only intended you to be running Windows."  Plus, a lot of other bad reviews.  You might try posting a note to Tech board where you can better describe the setup/situation, but it sounds like you just got a crappy machine.
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Sorry if that sounds too much like lecturing.  Wouldn't want to be too laughable.
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starlight Tech: I have HP, im a HP fan..
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volvagia Tech: dell all the way
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starlight Tech: Dells are crap, They are getting sued by several centers atm..
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quanta_Computer
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volvagia Tech: lol, dells do not suck
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starlight Tech: They are getting sued by putting some type of timers in their computer to crash it after the warrenty expires.
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volvagia Tech: yea right :P  if its on the net I guess its true :P
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DaRicoDude Tech: hp rules,but dell have the best build up computers
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Haha, a timer to crash it?  That's cold.
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aristarchus Tech: nah, alienware has the best
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Alienware == Dell
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Too bad you're only paying for the name "Alienware", and not anything that's actually meaningful.
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DaRicoDude Tech: and meccer?
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DaRicoDude Tech: acer vs meccer
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aristarchus Tech: macbook pros are good if you ever consider getting a mac
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm for imb/lenovo
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Lenovo, kthx. =p
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DaRicoDude Tech: who saw the new macrotosh pcs? It has bot windows and mac os on
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DaRicoDude Tech: both.
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You talking about Psystar, who are currently being sued to oblivion?
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: and any of the intel macs can have windows and macos installed on them
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DaRicoDude Tech: psystar?oblivion? Wtf?
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yes, Psystar? The company trying to build and sell macOS clones
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DaRicoDude Tech: i meant,that is a touch screen that if ur press the one side,then it switch to mac,if on the opposite then windows os
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Is it made by apple?
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DaRicoDude Tech: i dont know,but aint it mac
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Unlikely.
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DaRicoDude Tech: oblivion make mac?
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: .....
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No.
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Do you not know what the word Oblivion means?
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: a sucky rpg?
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DaRicoDude Tech: Warhammer 40,000 Oblivion
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DaRicoDude Tech: Dawn of war
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yet you dont know what the word oblivion means
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ala dictionary.com the state of being completely forgotten or unknown: a former movie star now in oblivion.
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DaRicoDude Tech: ok thanx,i shud study the dictionary
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Its hardly an obscure word. 
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: screw the dictionary. learn to spell first
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DaRicoDude Tech: hey, i know how, im on mxit,my pc broke
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Dagnir: If he studies the dictionary, he'll spell properly, too.
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Using a phone is no excuse to be lazy.
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you don't need one for words like should and thanks
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DaRicoDude Tech: ok.
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No, it's not ok.
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DaRicoDude Tech: ok.
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No, it's not.
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: is it safe?
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DaRicoDude Tech: ok.
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ... Is WHAT safe?
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: is it safe?
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Uhhh.. I guess so?
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: is it safe?
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: BEAR IS DRIVING, HOW CAN THIS BE?
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: good one, but the clerks were referencing it
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Dagnir.... that scene was also from clerks.
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i know
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but it the original was from a movie
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Hmmm, don't recall that from the movie
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Suppose that means I need to rewatch it.
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i mean they were referencing it in the clerks. wasn't original
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: marathon man was the movie. great one
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ahhhhh. The is it safe? or the bear
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the bear was original
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: damn brilliant
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ah, movie was before my time, not something I would have seen in passing.
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Not one you could forget, either.
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir nods at Arnica.
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aristarchus Tech: is it possible to make a trigger that will make mushclient play a sound?
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aristarchus Tech: moment of truth for this trigger...if it works it will play a rather annoying noise if even mushclient is minimized
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dick Tater Fertain Tech: did it work?
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aristarchus Tech: waiting for the quest countdown :P
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aristarchus Tech: ok it worked but it was rather quiet...hmm
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volvagia Tech: anyone know where I can get the spell plug in for Mushclient
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Updated scripts for wintintin users can be found at  http://aardwolf.chicomecoatl.angelfire.com/blog/ (Note: All scripts are free for you to modify on your own, but once you do so, the debugging is 100% your problem)
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=8780 & http://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/Aardwolf_Spellups
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dick Tater Fertain Tech: does anyone know how to put an alias in alias in mushclient?
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fertain, use send to execute instead of send to world
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dick Tater Fertain Tech: i'll look into that, thanks
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volvagia Tech: wow, that looks complicated
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what's complicated?
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volvagia Tech: the plug ins
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: DNA
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volvagia Tech: I was hoping I could just hit a link and download it and be done :P
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lexapro Tech: how do i make logon automatic? i use mush client.
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: by automating it!
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: alt-enter, look under general -> connecting.  Diku style
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Under the tab called "logging" iirc and it will give the option
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Nod, might be connecting now that you mention it.
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Its 'logging' in tintin.
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: No, "connecting" is for connecting.  "logging" is for, well, logging.
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: loggoning
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chicomecoatl attempts to make Xyliz close her mouth in the interest of peace.
T1/r7/2009-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I am so using that word at work from now on.
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarvo Tech: can anyone help me with the mushclient?
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lexapro Tech: ok can someone pelase help me again with auto loggin for mush cli
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lexapro Tech: anyone on here?
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: nope, just chat bots, why?
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: game > configure all > connection
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: i had to open up mush, to look
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lexapro Tech: im in that folder
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Type name and passowrd where it says
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lexapro Tech: and then diku
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lexapro Tech: im gonna try
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: No, ignore that
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lexapro Tech: ok
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Go down to the bottom and type %name% and on the next line type %password%
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Then it should work.
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lexapro Tech: it says it ther. but i didnt know how to use it
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lexapro Tech: thanks a whole lot
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lexapro Tech: im gonna try
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lexapro Tech: sucess
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lexapro Tech: success
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Gratz
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lexapro Tech: one giant step for mankind
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: One small step towards computers runniong the world
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: running*
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bed Bug Xandros Tech: is there a way i can open my zmud .mud file and check it for errors outside of zmud?  loading a character with that file instantly freezes zmud
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bed Bug Xandros Tech: i hit ctrl+a attempting to select all in the command line, and this opened my settings which i took for a freeze and closed zmud in the process
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ctrl+a is to open your alias window
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bed Bug Xandros Tech: nods, but i closed zmud before i knew that thinking it had froze (which is not a completely uncommon occurrence) trying to view another window. now it does in fact freeze whenever i load those settings
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bed Bug Xandros Tech: opening the .mud file with notepad...it's 467kb of empty space. so guess who gets to start over? =P
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: is it me?
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bed Bug Xandros Tech: i wish it were, no offense =P
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: Abe, is it possible to color the background of the whole status_line?
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: anyone care to dance with the devil? got a vista issue i can't solve without help
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maximon Tech: i hate vista, but i will try 
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ask the question, don't ask to ask
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: vista service pack 2 utterly refuses to install. goes through th emotions, reboots, then says install failed, reverting back
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: all other updates are on, installed the readiness KB thing, too
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Vista is protecting microsoft from suspicious-looking customers with suspicious-looking preferences  [perhaps anything not vanilla is suspicious-looking] 
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: for example, why do some microsoft updates insist on changing folder preferences
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: no idea
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starlight Tech: Okay, Im making a quest trigger... for mush..
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starlight Tech: It will go off of multiple things, so How do I make a multiple action trigger?
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: two ways -- either script it and use the same function for each trigger
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: or use a regular expression
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: thats nifty my wireless mouse works with only one battery out of two in it ... when did they start doing that to electronics
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: curious -- it might use two in parallel, so that they last longer
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: yea probably really cool ... ya know just incase you only have acess to one battery
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: they're prarallel
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LordofHelp Alastair Tech: Anyone ever seen a problem with IE that causes an m to show up in front of web adresses? In the drop down menu it's causing it to show up m.www.google.com
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teddybbeer Tech: any cpu gurus here?
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: of course there are
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teddybbeer Tech: k then have quad 6600 or what its called... is it good when fullloaded its on 65C?
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teddybbeer Tech: idle temp is ~40C
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: pretty normal, really
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chosig is agreeing with that Feral Farkyss person again...
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: not nominal, but normal yes
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: prolly want to make a conscious effort to clean your fans and sinks quite regularly though
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teddybbeer Tech: started to run boinc again lately... and couple days ago power supply died...
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: boinc?
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: is that some gay porn thing?
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teddybbeer Tech: u know... seti & stuff
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teddybbeer Tech: alienporn!!!1111one
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i seriously doubt the events are linked, more likely you just bummed out and had a stuffed psu
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i seriously doubt the events are linked, more likely you just bummed out and had a stuffed psu
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teddybbeer Tech: so at last let the mangafans get theyr tentacles!
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: woops
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teddybbeer Tech: well actually boinc is only program so far what uses 4 cpus in my quad...
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: if psu got fried, you usually end up with 1) nothing, just change psu and rock on 2) a deep fried computer, nothing works... buy a new
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teddybbeer Tech: me choose 1
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teddybbeer Tech: but that aint the problem... cpus temperature was
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chosig nods.
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: 65 degrees isn't a problem
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: not connected to psu tho, but look for a better cooling system
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teddybbeer Tech: celsius not the other one..
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: 65c is fine for a cpu
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teddybbeer Tech: iirc couple years ago my computer went blank when temp reaced 70... had stock cooler back then..
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: i have a semi-passive solution in my box, "unfanned" cooling sink on the cpu and 2x120mm silent temperature controlled fans in the chassie...
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: works like a charm for me, but i don't play games...
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: when i redo i'll be doing that, but with 1 fan
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: (i have the computer not 6ft from the bed, and my wife haven't complained so far :P)
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: thats the beenfit of a blind and deaf wife, eh?
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teddybbeer Tech: i have neighbours... comp aint the problem when it becomes about the noise...
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: yeah :P
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: if i was playing a game, i'd like to hear in game music, sound effects, ricochets.. not WHIIIIIIIIZ :P
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: something dreadfully wrong with your stereo
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chosig thinks he'll never get the Vim regex-wannabe solution
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: can you hear it? can you hear it? let's turn it up
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: am i just thick? can't for my life figure out how to make a whole file lower character in vim
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: ... :%s/[A-Z]/\l\0/g hrm...
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: hrm... if I want to remove all spaces before a colon in a file in vim, you have any suggestions? ex: abc def: asdf 123 (space between abc def have to go)
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: (in the whole file)
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noro Tech: Pardon my ignorance, but what exactly is "vim"?
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: the improved version of 'vi'
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: text editor :) (www.vim.org)
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: and the antecedent for "vigor"
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: I'm FULL of vim and vigor
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: and viagra
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noro Tech: Ah, alright. 
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: I switched to Cialis. regrows hair
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: and now my hair is stiff even during a wind storm
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: I went all Woeah! when I found out that vertical split is implemented in Screen (finally), but oh man is it sluggish...
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: I went all Woeah! when I found out that vertical split is implemented in Screen (finally), but oh man is it sluggish...
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: well done hauppage, wintv7 is less reliable than 6
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: and that's an achievement
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: But, they're going to start making cablecard tuners, so, i'll forgive them.
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: well that's no use to anyone
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It is, actually.
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Anybody point me to some reading that would let me build an alias to a script to run a loop on where n.<mobname>
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: what client are you using?
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: MUSHClient
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: oh, well I have no experience with MUSH. I would assume you could use a for loop within an alias though
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Yes, if I knew where to look for syntax, string mainpulation, etc.
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: the client doesn't come with a help file?
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I think someone made a plugin for that
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: mushclient plugin to locate campaign mob: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?id=9246
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: anyone know what the standard scripting language is for mushclient?
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aristarchus Tech: LUA?
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: okay, there was a page somewhere that had fixes to make the aardwolf mushclient usable..anyone recall where it is? (I didn't pay attention because I use Zmud.)
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: finger fiendish
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: thank you rathik :D
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: gently though
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: i'm ticklish
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: Has anyone go their Blue Ray player to pick up youtube?
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: I know mines compatibale but all i'm seeing is netflix and pandora, tried to update it but it says its the latest update, was wondering if I need to manually d/l some software off the net and install it
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: are you going to http://www.youtube.com/xl ?
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: no, i don't even have the icon to click on, it just shows netflix and pandora
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: oh I see, youtube xl is probably what I would see on the tv if I could get there
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: sucks, can't find good support even from the samsung site, oh well. one guy said he turned his Player on and it auto updated, then he had youtube on it
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Holliday Tech: anyone reccomend a good feed reader?
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: google reader
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Holliday Tech: preferably software based rather than web based
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: first you need to describe your platform
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Holliday Tech: windows box
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and what's your objection to a "web based" reader?
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radikal Tech: Anyone familiar with installing plugins on this MUSHclient?
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: sure
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: holliday, you might try http://rssbandit.org/
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radikal Tech: I want my client set up like the screenshot on Aard's homepage
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radikal Tech: But I don't know how to even begin..
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: which version of the client do you have?
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: try using the custom aardwolf client then?
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radikal Tech: 4.40
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: you can download it from the aardwolf site, it comes with plugins to look like the screenshot
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radikal Tech: Would I have to uninstall this one first then?
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I recommend the following process...
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: download the aardwolf client. then go and download the installer for the latest version from mushclient.com's announcement forum and install that on top of it
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the aardwolf client package, rather
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: then replace the chat capture plugin with the one from my website if there isn't a better one in the forums
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and replace the bigmap plugin with either the one from my website or the newer experimental version from the forums
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: then replace the automap plugin with the miniwindow version, because having another window for it is silly
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radikal Tech: Ok. What's your website
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: finger.
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radikal Tech: Ok lol
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you know the latest mushclient version is 4.43
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radikal Tech: So, am I able to DL the aardwolf client package w/o uninstalling this current one?
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radikal Tech: That way I can keep this communication line open?
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: well no
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I wouldn't do that
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: having multiple install locations leads to trouble
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radikal Tech: Ok.. So uninstall first?
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yeah
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radikal Tech: Ok. and the aardwolf client package can be found on the homepage?
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and then the newest installer from mushclient.com is at http://mushclient.com/forum/?id=9659
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: at some point in the, hopefully near, future Lasher will get around to updating the aardwolf package to be more...recent.
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radikal Tech: I'm sorry for all the questions I know it must be an annoyance, but I'm really not familiar with any of this. So when I download the newest installer from mushclient.com, will it automatically put everything where it needs to be in order to work or will I need to find out how to configure it all?
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: should be the first
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radikal Tech: Ok thanks. Be back in a bit
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radikal Tech: Thanks Fiendish
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radikal Tech: Ok, one minor problem
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radikal Tech: Fiendish, you there?
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: yes I am, but how did you know I'm Fiendish?
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: always
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radikal Tech: Ok, well the stat plugin always appears in the upper right corner and for the life of me I can't move it. And where it's at, it's not able to display everything.. I've tried clicking the stat tab on the upper left corner and moving it from there but it still doesn't want to budge..
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hm. go to the Window menu and select Cascade
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: then rearrange as desired
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radikal Tech: ah perfect, thanks
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radikal Tech: Is there a way that I can have all chats  only in the chat window?
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radikal Tech: Because it's still appearing in the Aardwolf window as well as the chat window
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: chats echo off or something like that...
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: there's a list of all the commands that go with each plugin at: http://www.aardwolf.com/play/plugins.htm
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radikal Tech: got it
T1/r7/2009-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radikal Tech: Thank you
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teredell Tech: anyone available?
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No, we're all taken.
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Maybe using tech channel isn't good for a dating service, though.
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volvagia Tech: rofl
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Teredell P hehehe I wasnt hoping to get "THAT" lucky
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Certainly not on the first date, I hope!
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teredell Tech: hahaha
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: that'd be one hell of a crack, that's for sure
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teredell Tech: so can I ask someone my question?
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Just ask it, noobcakes.
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Don't ask to ask, just ask it and see if someone answers
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: you already asked one tho!
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Don't ask to ask, just ask.
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: it appears doubtful if you haven't done so by now
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teredell Tech: ok so I just got the right client for aardwolf, (I had the one from the mushclient site before) and after installing I've found the stats window is like out of clickable range and the move option wont even shift it
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Window > cascade windows and rearrange how you please.
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: one way to move 'invisible' windows... when you click the move option, use the arrow keys on the keyboard
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teredell Tech: lol thanks for the noob advice
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teredell Tech: sorted now thanks
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Me Wantee Freggle Tech: hmm just on my new laptop (with vista) zmud seems to only run once, after that it just aborts ... any clue how to solve that?
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Upgrade to Cmud, which is Vista compatable
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Returned Ikyu Tech: run as admin
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Vista won't run zmud, i had to go with cmud instead
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Returned Ikyu Tech: don't install in program files
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Returned Ikyu Tech: i have zmud running on vista home basic and home premium
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Me Wantee Freggle Tech: so just under C
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: regardless ikyu, its not supported.
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: I did that all on my laptop (vista) and it wouldn't work anyways.
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Returned Ikyu Tech: not supported no, but not worth spending $30 on
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: upgrade to XP or Linux
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Returned Ikyu Tech: be sure it is 7.21 as well
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: technically going backwards is not an "upgrade", genius.
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Sa'lright chico. People are ignorant. Let them be
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: did you not see those Mac adverts where the pc Bill Gates lookalike character admitted that many were upgrading back to XP from vista
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Did you see that channel that Xyliz talks on and nobody listens?
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: So, you take your advice from a mac advertisement? GENIUS.
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: well, if you go to the Apple stores, you can speak to their geniuses...
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: what's so good about Macs?  The latest ones are trying to run Windows
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: actually... they're not *trying* to run windows... they're running linux
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: BSD.
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: slightly modded linux, but linux nonetheles
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: new Macs run windows quite well, actually.
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: unfortunately, Apple seems overpriced compared to pc
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: New macs run XP better then new PCs =p
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: lol yeah they do :P  I use them at work 
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: i love runing xp on my mac
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Lmao, i went the exact opposite. I tooka primarily windows computer and went Linux with it.
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: erm... macs ARE pcs now... 
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: i just wish they made a halfway decent mud client for mac :P
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Apples have always been PCs.
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: lol yeah.  but you know what i meant
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Liath P
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: PC = Personal Computer = ALL computers (Yes, genius, macs are computers)
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: technically, Macs are PCs, since that is an abbreviation for Personal computer.
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: ugh... missing the point tho
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: See, I just sad that, but, with less words
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chicomecoatl enthusiastically high-fives Daloran!
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: macs run the same hardware as the rest now
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: which is another point against the genius of Mac.  Trying to say Macs are better than PCs...
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: they're not :P
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I believe they are saying the max "Experience" is better then the pc experience
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: generally it is
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: It redundant in the essence that saying something is greater than itself.
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: I like my work mac
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: its relative.
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: I'm the guy people call when they're apple products dont work right, though... so yeah I know that they aren't perfect
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: sweet, that means we can call you?
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: In other news, Huzzah for CableCards relaxing the OEM bios restriction =)
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: sure... so long as you dont call at f'n 2345 or after (EST) :P
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: so as a Mac techie, you are unable to do a Maytag imitation
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: eh?
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: #sub {Liath} {<140>A<158>pple <140>G<158>uy}
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: LOL
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Maytags never broke down, so Maytag repairmen were never busy in those Maytag advertisements
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: still prefer "PC" at home though
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Xyliz: How stupid do you have to be, to believe what you see advertised....
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: lol yeah.
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: This is Xyliz we're talking about, Chico.
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: i like 'pc's... easier to play with imho
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: How stupid do you have to be to not realize that?
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Very good point.
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: I, personally, prefer Ubuntu
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: I like ubuntu myself... beryl rocks
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: "ubuntu" yet sounds to much like the name of some savage african tribes
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Xyliz sounds like somebody i should have never un-ignored...
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Well, you're half right - it's an african word...
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: perhaps because Ubuntu is a Swahili word (african language)
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Chicomecoatl sounds like a Xunti name.... GOOD CHOICE
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Grandiloquence? :(  LarcenouS. Chicomecoatl panegyric lessaiz-faire MiSnOmEr Daloran?
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: only reason I'm not running it now is 3 hard-drives got eaten up.  daughter + liquid = dead computers
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Daughter + computer + liquid = dead daughter
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Liath -/
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Okay, thats a bit harsh. Daughter + liquid + computers = Incredible frustration
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: yep.  there already
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: See, it Daughter + laptop connected to extrnal power + bathtub = no blame on daddie
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Except most electrical codes require the installation of GFI outlets in bathrooms, so itd need to be on an extension cord =p
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: i have one outlet that isn't GFCI in my bathroom
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Its on the opposite side of the tub, but i think my charger would reach.
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I suppose. But, depending on your locale I don't think thats up to code =p
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: The house is 40 some years old. I don't doubt it.
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Might add it to the backburner of things to fix if you ever intend to sell your house
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Also.. you said you had 1 outlet.. is there other outlets in the bathroom? it might be ganged off of one of the GFI outlets
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: The other two are GFCI, so the might be wired in sequence to compensate for the third one...
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: they*
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Do they typically do that?
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Sometimes, yeah.
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: GFI outlets tend to be expensive in comparison, so, if there are multiple outlets... why buy $20 for each one when you can buy $20 for one and protect all three
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Nod, makes sense.
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Why overpay when you can skimp
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod... not sure how the code looks at such things, most bathrooms ive ever had to be concerned with only have a single outlet
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Its a pretty big bathroom, one outlet wouldn't cover much.
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Fair enough. Though, what do you really need power in the bathroom for *shrug
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: when vacuuming
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Lol, thats why you put in a plasma in the bathroom ... "I have this plugin, and nothing to plug into it ... lets buy a plasma!"
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Er, vacuming? bathroom with carpet? =p
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Some company actually did just release a waterproof... lcd or plasma, cant remember which
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: My bathroom only has a 2.25 x 3.5' patch of carpet, the rest is laminate.
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: when vacuuming the carpet in the hall outside of the bathroom -- halls are often missing outlets
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: however xyl, a single outlet would still be sufficient =p
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Nod. Doesn't everyone keep 20 extension cords in niches around the house?
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chicomecoatl looks around and whistles innocently.
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: YES.
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: some hair blowers are 1600 watts
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: And the point of that comment was....
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: 1600 watts is a lot of juice 
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: I'm sure I can google random facts, in an attempt to be as "intelligent" as Xyliz...
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: and if there is a heater in the bathroom on a cold winters day -- another 600 to 1500 watts
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yes, but that assumes the outlets are on different circuits, which is rare
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: So how about those quad cores..
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: how many of you like to watch tv while talking a warm hot bath
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I don't talk to my baths, but I'm sure you do.
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I don't bathe, I shower. in and out asap.
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: What good does #config {convert meta} on, actually do? Besides turn all output into garbled trash, that is.
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It makes the mud look like the matrix.
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: pretty much, yeah.
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Although, the matrix was in binary, this was even worse than binary...
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: j00 r just n0t 1337 en0ugh 2 underst4nd.
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Can you understand this? --> 49m*][1
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Can you understand this? --> 49m*]\e[1;35m Kinma\e[1;31m} \e[1;36m\e[1;31m{\e[0m5\e[1;31m}\e[
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Well THAT was rude =p
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: no cursing on public chans..
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: It's showing the escape sequences.
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: What cursing?
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Do i have someone ignored that cursed?
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: what is cursing?
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: yaarrrrr, it be International Talk Like A Pirate Day today
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yarrrrrrrrr.
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: with a free monkey island game downloadable from www.playlikeapirate.com
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Time to put on my favourite Arrrrrrrrrgyle sweater, and drive around in my ferarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrri..
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lexapro Tech: i have a set of arrows that i want to navigate with
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lexapro Tech: on my keyboard
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lexapro Tech: im using mushclient
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: make macros?
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lexapro Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: np
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lexapro Tech: how do i change the background color of chats please
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: anyone knows where can i get the patch that fixes the bug in Bigmap
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: http://www.cs.rpi.edu/~kelmaa//Aardwolf/MUSHclientNewVersions/Aardwolf_bigmap.xml
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scara Tech: thx, got that copied!
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: still can't get vista sp2 to install on this pishen laptop
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DaRicoDude Tech: vista is a mistake.
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: not my laptop, so a communal webtrawl is in order
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: tried disabling all startup items, tried repairing the mbr and bootup options, got all other updates installed, even tried creating a new user and installing from there
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: any other help will be appreciated
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DaRicoDude Tech: the only vista will work very good is when a pc has 6gb ram.
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: seriously tempted to level it with the factory dvd
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: actually, the ram's less important
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: besides which most laptops can't take 6gb
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: slate and pave, honey, slate and pave
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DaRicoDude Tech: Java vs C++=?
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: erm, both aimed at completely different markets, drd
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: what you lookin to do?
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DaRicoDude Tech: just normal software programing
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: no such thing as normal
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DaRicoDude Tech: hi tech then
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: java is aimed at mobile, portable, lightweight, and web apps
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: c++ is more aimed towards core programming
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DaRicoDude Tech: what about the others like Cobalt
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: Cobol. If you have years of experience of Cobol, expect to be paid a lot
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: used in much older legacy systems. Would be handy, but is a niche
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DaRicoDude Tech: if that is much older,then what is its replacements for the newer ones?
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: C++, typically
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: but if you just learn one, you'll be a one-trick pony
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DaRicoDude Tech: ahh ok,is c++ and c# the same?
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: no, but similarish
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i'd reccommend you do your core learning in C++, but make sure you at least do some basic courses in the rest
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DaRicoDude Tech: hows the money in C++?
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: no idea, there's a recession on
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DaRicoDude Tech: whats c++ actual name
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: C++ =p
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DaRicoDude Tech: i mean like except calling it that C + +
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: yep
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: that's what it's called
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DaRicoDude Tech: oh ok.
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: the original language was called 'C'
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: this is the sequel to C, hence C++
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ++ after a variable increments it by 1
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: but you knew that, right?
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DaRicoDude Tech: yeah
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: better to prepend it :P
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DaRicoDude Tech: didnt it start b before c?
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Yep! And A before that!
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DaRicoDude Tech: werent visualBasic the previous?
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus looks around and whistles innocently.
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: real programmers do it in APL
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No mate =p
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: BASIC ftw!
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: GW Basic wheeee
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DaRicoDude Tech: basic suckz
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Basic has its place.
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: what is it with old people that you can't ever get them to shut up when they're on the phone
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowzero Tech: ah yes i've had that experience before
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: 9 minutes that phone call took. I'd answered the problem after 1
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I assume they don't charge by the minute
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowzero Tech: even worse when your filter is screwed and internet connection dies when phone connection is on
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lexapro Tech: how do i restor my map color using mush client
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: you could try deleting the state file
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lexapro Tech: will i lose all my colors
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: it should just reset the background colours to default
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lexapro Tech: my map is black and beige but i need all black
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: there are two question marks on the map, click those and set colours
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: anyone know what kind of a food product can be used for making dynamite?
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: OJ
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Wait ... thats napalm
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: im assuming some kind of jerky
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it should be nitroglycerin + sawdust, but i have a trivia question asking for food :\
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: did you read the labeled ingredients on that food product named  Dyn-o-mite 
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: At Iron Duck Chuft's request, Seltsimees Dagnir produces his supper, which appears to be a plate of hot charcoal.
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Xyliz: Wth is wrong in your head?
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: Dyn-o-mite, made with real Jimmy Walkers
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: thats righ dynamite is nitroglycerine 
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: was thinking tnt
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Dyn-o-mite! sounds like a food product aimed at kiddies
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i wish i had some dmt...
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: just go buy some mimosa hostilis bark
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: glycerine is not very tasty -- and not a food products
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Glycerine is used in foods, thus a food product
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: and they use nitrates to preserve food
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: There is a vast difference between nitro-glycerine and glycerine
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: glycerine is what the poor use as a substitute for hand cream
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: no kiddin chico
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Xyliz: You are ignorant, most compounds can be used for more than one thing,.
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: nitrites were used to preserve food, not nitrates (?)
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Nitrates are fillers, Nitrites are preservatives.
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: ahh ya
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: various forms of glycol are used in foods -- (propylene glycol added to cheap Vanilla extract) -- unsure about glycerine
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: strait from wikipedia Sodium nitrite, with chemical formula NaNO2, is used as a color fixative and preservative in meats and fish. When pure, it is a white to slight yellowish crystalline powder. It is very soluble in water and is hygroscopic. It is also slowly oxidized by oxygen in the air to sodium nitrate, NaNO3. The compound is a strong oxidizing agent.
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: so technically nitrite will become nitrate
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: at what slow rate is Nitrite converted to Nitrate in the presence on 21% Oxygen (normal air)
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: what atmospheric pressure / temperature ... blah blah blah it happens
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: does Encyclopedia Brittanica (or a credible Scientific authority) back up what Wikipedia allededly stated on Nitrite converting to Nitrate in the presence of Oxygen
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: did ya know an ingredient commonly found in soy sauce is used to make fireworks that whistle 
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: its called sodium benzoate ... its used in food as a preservative
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Oregano is used in many itallian foods, and is known to increase/accelerate combustion.
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: ok here another one what chemical when mixed with glycerine will cause spontaneous combustion 
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Potassium
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhenders Tech: any computers gurus on?
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Ask your question and see.
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: heh
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: not quite chicomecoatl
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhenders Tech: my wife's computer won't connect to the internet suddenly
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Flush the DNS mask.
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhenders Tech: how?
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: What OS is it on?
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhenders Tech: win xp
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: the correct answer is potassium permanganate 
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Hmm, don't know about XP.
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: I was close elchanan.
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: C:> ipconfig /flushdns
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: but no cigar
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Na + KMg = BOOM
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: that is a delayed reaction 
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhenders Tech: still says limited or no connectivity
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what is KMg
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: KMg is a compound that does not exist
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aristarchus Tech: O.o
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: unless an alloy
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Woops, that would be per magnesiate
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: alloy is not a compound
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhenders Tech: wife bought an ipod last night, hooked it up, it rebooted and no she can't connect the internet, that's wierd right?
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: KMnO4
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rithlin Tech: no, not from windows....
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: an alloy is a compound
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Not technically.
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhenders Tech: any idea what happened?
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Alloys are composites, not compounds
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: no an alloy is a solution
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: a solution of two solids
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aristarchus Tech: does ipod have internet tethering? i know iphone does
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: next the formula for "glycerine" instead of "Na"
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhenders Tech: no idea
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhenders Tech: she put it in the usb port
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aristarchus Tech: which ipod do you have?
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhenders Tech: one sec
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhenders Tech: 8gb ipod nano
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: C3H8O3
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: I doubt the nanos do
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aristarchus Tech: no that doesn't have tethering...hmm
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: maybe there's an outside chance that the Itouch has it, though
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhenders Tech: what is tethering?
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DaRicoDude Tech: my ipod nano battery dont work
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: C3H5(OH)3
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhenders Tech: and why did it fubar the internet connection?
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aristarchus Tech: the computer using the iphone/ipod touch's 3G or 2G network
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DaRicoDude Tech: that internal small blue ion batter
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: you say C3H5(OH)3    isay C3H803    so same thing
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: same number of C H and O
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: is oil of Oregano very poisonous
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Technically yes, they still balance.
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: so is CH2(OH)CH(OH)CH2(OH)
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DaRicoDude Tech: any cracker,hacker?
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: KMNO4 is a dangerous product when misused -- yet a few crystals in a cup of water act as a convenient disinfectant for some body parts
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: washing vegetables in an extremely weak solution of KMnO4 may eliminate a lot of the bacteria that simple rinsing does not dislodge
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lexapro Tech: how to i initiate chats echo off , on connection,  [mushcli]
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radikal Tech: Anyone available for some questions I have?
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: don't ask to ask, you won't get a response. just ask the question
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Any tintin users on?
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: yep
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: If i do #ses test aardmud.net 6555 and #read chicomecoatl, will my #read file still parse on live port even if i #kill on test?
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radikal Tech: With the aardwolf client, how do I lock the windows in place?
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radikal Tech: With the aardwolf client, how do I lock the windows in place?
T1/r7/2009-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radikal Tech: How do I save where my windows currently are so that next time I log into MUSH I don't have to set it up again?
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: i downloaded the mush client from aardwolf's site, how can i permently get rid of all the seperate widows ? like map, status, chats, etc.
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lexapro Tech: disable the plugins
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radikal Tech: how do I keep the windows exactly how I placed them?
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radikal Tech: For next time I log?
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Save your settings.
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: ahh, thanks =)
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Naomii, if you don't want the windows, then you would probably rather have the regular mushclient from mushclient.com
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: "I have a DBAN disc labeled 'Windows XP automatic recovery CD'. My flatmates don't use my belongings without permission anymore."
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: what's a dban disc?
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Boot and Nuke
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I forget what the D is I think its some guys name.
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i don't see the relevance
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: DBAN is a bootable disc that boots, and starts formatting/erasing hard drives.
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: yes, but why does you having it have anything to do with roommates?
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: AKA Flatmate borrowed "windows xp automatic recovery disc" and instead nuked their hard drive.
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: why's that your problem?
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rasid Tech: LOLOLOL
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Who said it was a problem
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: lend them a blender and see if they stick their head in it
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Thats the point - they borrow cd without asking, their bad.
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aristarchus Tech: wow...a tiny hiccup in power and boom...crap hits the fan
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Don't poop so close to the fan then.
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aristarchus Tech: i need to get me some emergency power supply units
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: I just opened MUSH and I got a lot of errors.
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: Before closing mush, I re-enabled bigmap which had disappeared for a long time
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: Right
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: Ok, I got the following errors in its very own tab
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: SQL error on statement: "SELECT value FROM worlds WHERE name = 'Map:Top Height'"database is locked
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: I got that same error for the following: 'Map:Bottom Height'"'Map:Top Height'"'Map:Top Height'"'Map:Bottom Height'"'Stats:Top Height'"'Stats:Bottom Height'"'Chats:Top Height'"'Big Map:Bottom Height'"'Big Map:Top Height'"'Big Map:Bottom Height'"
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: I realize some of them are repeated
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: Any info?
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: Also, the tab is named: SQL errors in global preferences
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Phalae peers around herself intently.
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: when i try to open the plugin thing plugins are all smushed and the errors run and run insanely
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: ok, i am having trouble with making macros in cmud
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: what's the problem?
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: i made one successfully, but i try to make more and when i press the f-whatever i want key, it just flips around the window, picking different options
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: i made sure i picked the option 'new'
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: did you assign it to a key?
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: that was the problem - it wont let me
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: delete it and re-do...
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: how do you find a decive name for a wireless interface in windows ( like wlan0 in linux ) ?
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not sure what you're trying to do, but windows doesn't use the same kind of mechanism that linux uses
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Device manager, possibly.
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Network connections? I'm with Abe on this one. :P
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can use ipconfig or network connections to see what windows calls it
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: often it's local area connection 1. Start>MyComputer>Network Connections on my machine to get there.
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: generic laptop chargers that autosense voltage requirements. They have 3 cables coming to the tip instead of 2. Who can tell me how they work?
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the only ones I've seen have you change tips for different laptops...the tips are wired for what that laptop uses
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: can you google the type you have ? might have some more info *shrug
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if the charger supports 15-24v. there's no way that can be achieved naturally with only 3 cables
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure it could be achived naturally with 3 pins...15-24 isn't saying how many steps in between...
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my i-go units use 6 pins...but they're the one for electronic devices, not the laptop one (less oomph)
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: 3 pins. Middle appears to be the highest potential
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: using right pin ground, 15.6V, using left pin ground, 14.0v
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: actually, there -is- 6 pins
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: wtf?
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: can't find any pin-outs anywhere. Damn the internet and all it's crappy shopping spam
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: got colors?
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nope
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: they're all metal coloured
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: mm. the colour of metal...
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: insulation too?
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chosig grins evilly.
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: can you specify a bit more Fark (pun intended)? you trying to repair or make a uni charger?
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: people who make torrents with rar'd/zipped iso files should be shot
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: at least twice
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aristarchus Tech: why?
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: trying to repair one, chosig, but if i can't map the pins onto the new end, it's a bit of a silly exercise
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: i make .bz2's =)
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: what's wrong with torrents of isos?
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ever been stuck on a small hdd and want to seed the torrent?
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: eh?
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: online shopping is wrecking the internet
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it takes up twice the space it would uncompressed
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: a zipped iso is pretty pointless..
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir nods at Naomii.
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: used to be that you typed a question into a search engine and you'd get some answers, now all you get is effing shopping results
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: people who download pirated software should be shot atleast twice (unless they have a clue)...
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you do know that search engines don't understand natural language, right?
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: chosig...shhhhhh. =)
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i've bought the damn game twice
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: yes, danir
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aristarchus Tech: you can type -shop -buy -purchase  (with the minus sign) to exclude those words from search results
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: software should be free *duck
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir nods at Naomii.
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: like crossover pro, for example
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: Fark, there's a FCID on it?
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: free doesn't mean it has to be free as beer
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: no, chosig
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: unless i suppose you pay to use windows (with a 2 installation limited license) and then want to pay for alot of third party software (just to keep it running)..
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: what are you running on about, naomii?
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: don't mind me..=P
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: sometimes i just talk..
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you can no more make software free than you can make food free, or cars free
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: only non-free software on my windows box is the antivirus and mudclient
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's the choices you make, naomii
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: umm yes you can make software free...
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: looks like i'll have to just throw these 2 chargers away, there's no technical info anywhere on the net that i can find
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: might have to seriously consider an alternative search engine, google's getting crap
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aristarchus Tech: google is still the king of search engines imo
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: i like dogpile, it's a meta search thing, searches lots of engines at once. probably still might get all the adverts
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: way better than the pre-google era of meta-searches
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: give up. bed time
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: wintv7 is even more unstable than wintv6, meh
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: (shoots hauppage)
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylin Tech: any one know of a good script/alliase learning site?
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they'd be different for every client...
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: usually the best thing to do is check out existing scripts & see how they're done
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylin Tech: how about one that uses lua
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Mush?
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: www.mushclient.com is a good place to start
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylin Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: lua is similar to a popular programming language
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylin Tech: thanks abel
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Xyliz: Shhhh, your intelligence is showing.
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: No it's not. It doesn't take intelligence to google things. Even you can appear smart.
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: even me?
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylin Tech: actualy i have tried that site. maybe some one knows a site that has more examples for learning?
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: try www.lua.org
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you need to go past the first page ;-)
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylin Tech: have printed out many pages, but ill look again
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are examples all over gammon's site...go to the forums & look where people are asking "how do I do xxx"
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylin Tech: and ill check lua out to thanks chic
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's all explained clearly, with hows & whys
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the lua site provides a tutorial like manual
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylin Tech: ^ thanks all :)
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: If you are just trying to learn lua, use the reference manual off of lua.org
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the lua site's tutorial isn't much help for figuring out how to write scripts
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: no, but it can teach syntaxes and functions
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lua's normal use has nothing to do with MUDding or MUSH...MUSH has changed quite a bit syntax-wise
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haedus Tech: is there a way to make the mushclient map bigger when your using it in a seperate window?
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Haedus, you using the mini-window maps or the regular world window maps?
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haedus Tech: the mini window map
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Not easily, but you can edit the plug-in and change it in code.
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haedus Tech: hmm... sounds like it would be a pain to change, but I'll tinker with it.
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Not too bad.  If you open the .xml file with an editor, search for font_name.  That sets the font, and there's a WindowCreate() type function that takes the font size as a parameter (8 by default I believe).
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Though, I would make a copy of the file before playing, as a CYA.  *grin*
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haedus Tech: ya, it's 8 i believe. ok
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: Ive heard theres a way to make an easy kind of 'spellup other' macro in c/zmud - is this true?
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: does anyone here use cmud?
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: phalae, check out http://davos.aardcharn.com/
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: I found that.. unfortunately i need some other basic help that the help files in the program don't cover :(
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: most spellup scripts, including the one on that site, include a feature to spellup others
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: nod nod looks neat and i want, but i'm having trouble making cmud create a package with the subdirectory.
T1/r7/2009-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dunno, I don't use zugg's stuff
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: this sucks
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dfury is agreeing with that Liath person again...
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: all of my freaking settings gone
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liath Tech: grrrr
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: shift happens
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus sits down and thinks deeply. 
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Traceroute to www.conwaycorp.net -- My ip, then 0.0.0.0, then 24.144.0.195, then ..., and lastly... 24.144.0.51. Why am I getting the 0.0.0.0 bit in there?
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Seems like it's the cause of some of my connection problems lately...
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: a router of sorts perhaps?
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Directly connected.
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Don't even have my wireless card installed. *ponder*
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: maybe some kind of controller on the side of your isp?
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: "In general this route offers a good throughput, with hops responding on average within 80ms. However, the route is slower than should be expected at the beginning, indicating a particularly slow Internet connection or problems with your ISP or at your organization. The DNS lookup was completed almost instantaneously (less than 2ms - this may be the result of caching)."
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: This is going directly to my ISP provider. Shouldn't be that much trouble.
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dfury shrugs helplessly.
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: call them, seems liek the problem is with them
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Hmmm... and direct connection isn't completely the truth. I /am/ using a splitter for cable/internet. But surely that shouldn't be a problem.
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Yeah, I'll probably give them a call later today or something.
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Anyone using Atreidess quest script here?
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juxtaposed Jexebelle Tech: Any ideas on how to turn maps on for mushclient?
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bugu Tech: hello is anyone here?
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: nope
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sirene Tech: Nope, please leave a message at the beep.  *BEEP*
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bugu Tech: lol wow thats actually techs
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bugu Tech: i think i found a bug
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: never bother asking "is anyone here", or "can I ask a question", or "anyone here an expert at xxx"...just ask the question
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: with?
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bugu Tech: runto midgaard
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bugu Tech: try to run to midgaard
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no bug
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what's wrong with it?
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bugu Tech: true yeah thanks
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: midgaard the city doesn't exist, and midgaard isn't a keyword for gaardian clan
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: runto gaardian if you want to go to the clanhall midgaardian publishing house
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Me Wantee Freggle Tech: hmm any suggestions for a good firewall (freeware)?
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: Comodo
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ph 12
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, oops
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your router :-)
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Doing a traceroute using Visualroute, I've learned that my computer is going from my ip address of 24.xxx.xx.205 to 0.0.0.0, then on to 24.144.0.195, followed by a final destination of 24.144.0.51 (my ISP provider's website, in the same town. What is the 0.0.0.0, if I don't have a router, and I'm directly connected? Could that be affecting my slow browsing as of late?
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Guess no one knows.
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: google suggests that 0.0.0.0 means "unknown" -- not sure why you would be routing through there
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods.
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: have you tried a second computer, see if you get the same thing? 
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: also a different traceroute
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Don't have one I can connect.
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: you on windows? there's a tracert command I think
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Yeah, just used it. First line:  1   294 ms   333 ms   384 ms   Charneus-PC [0.0.0.0]
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: ipconfig /all?
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: that suggest you are on 0.0.0.0 also? 
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Getting request timing out. Hold on. :\
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: and this is the machine you are connecting from at the moment? 
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Nothing on it even suggests anything near 0.0.0.0.
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods.
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: tried a reverse traceroute (back to you from the net) ?
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: strange -- I could understand if nothing was working, but this is odd
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: It's just very slow. And Naomii, how would I do that?
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: "In general this route is reasonably quick, with hops responding on average within 181ms. However, the route is slower than should be expected at the beginning, indicating a particularly slow Internet connection or problems with your ISP or at your organization. The DNS lookup was completed almost instantaneously (less than 2ms - this may be the result of caching)."
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: That's from Visualroute's analysis.
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: where is your machine getting DHCP from? 
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: heres one: http://www.giganews.com/line_info.html
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: DHCP Server is 24.144.0.31
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what does 'route show' say?
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: see if it also goes thru the 0.0.0.0
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: sorry, route print
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Route print shows Network Destination (first one) of 0.0.0.0, netmask of 0.0.0.0, gateway of 24.144.29.1...
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: And the site you gave me doesn't even complete its tracert.
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: hmm, it was a random google.
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Hits: Max number of unresponsive hops reached (firewall or filter?)
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: does ipconfig /all show the same gateway for your nic?
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Which, I don't have a firewall up...
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Shows default gateway of 24.144.29.1, yeah.
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: well, it's beyond me -- my only suggestion is turn it off, turn it on again!
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I've done that, too.
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: maybe i missed this, but on the traceroute, what is the longest hop?
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Now it's slowed down even more... longest hop is 758, between 24.144.0.195 and an unknown (shows firewall there)...
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: In general, hops in this route respond slowly (over 445ms on average).
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: cable modem, dsl?
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Cable modem.
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Hmmm... can someone here do a tracert to www.conwaycorp.net and see if they get any hangups?
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Doing a speed test shows my download to be 3.19 mb/s, with an upload of 0.15 mb/s...
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: traceroute stops here for me: 24.144.0.195
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods at Bast.
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: So it's looking like it might be the ISP problem, then...
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: but I can get to the website
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: some ISPs & routers are set to not respond to incoming pings from the Internet...can't ping www.microsoft.com, for example...this will interfere with both pings and traceroutes...they do it for 2 reasons...(1) security through obscurity, as most widespread hack attempts ping entire IP ranges to see who responds, then only attack those that appear to be "live"...(2) pingfloods are a common DDoS (which is why MS has them turned off...botnets of people pinging the heck out of them)
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Ah, Abelinc. That makes sense. But... any speculation on the 0.0.0.0 bit, then?
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: anyone got recommandation for a ultra-light msging programs for pcs in my own network?
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: basicly just to send site urls to other computers inside my network
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: message works. :P
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: heh there's a program called message:P i'll check it out thnx
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Er, wasn't talking about that.
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: heh..:P
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Was talking about the cmd line message. I forget what it truly is, but you can send it to computers on the same network.
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Ah, it's msg.
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Start->Run->msg * Go here!
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Start->Run->msg * Go here!
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: don't  do it! it's a virus!
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: er, sorry about that.
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Feral Farkyss giggles at himself -- he must be nervous or something.
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: hehe
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: damn comp counting down to explosion in 10 sec... 9 ...9
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: hmm counter not so good
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Heh... you could do that with a batch file, too. ;)
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: actually i found something on google:) thnx anyways
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Back in Comp Repair, we'd goof around like that, sending batch messages of things like 'Your computer has a virus. It is now formating the drive.' Then it'd show 'Formating C:\ 10%' etc.
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: of course, formatting was spelled correctly then. :P
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Seriously, why install a program that does exactly what msg does? It's added junk on a pc that probably contains bloatware.
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: i second that.
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Charneus' mom contains bloatware.
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: instead try explaining how broken the vista 'network identification' feature is
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus snickers with Starling about their shared secret.
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods at Feral Farkyss.
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: That's horrible. At least it's fixed in Windows 7 (I believe...) I find it amusing that Microsoft came out wiht a commercial about Windows 7 because it IS so much better now.
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Curse my spelling today...
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: not really much help to people with vista though, is it? ;-0
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: they had to do something, with vista being oh the jewel it is.
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods at Feral Farkyss.
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: though they're still planning on about a bazillion different releases of 7 when all we wanted were 2: Home and Business
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Replace Home with Ultimate, and I'd agree.
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: ultimate is worthless
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: when will people stop paying tons of money for poor quality operating systems ? 
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: when one that isn't worthless comes along?
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: and then you have to pay more money for third party software, just to keep your crappy operating system functional =(
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: like..
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: well, antivirus for one..
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: odd, i didn't pay anything for my antivirus
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Plenty of free antivirus programs that are better than paid versions.
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: registry fixers..
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nobody needs registry fixers
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Plenty of those, too.
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods at Feral Farkyss.
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: So-called registry fixers are bloatware, most times, and just tend to screw it up.
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: in a lot of cases you have to be an idiot to use them
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: so what 3rd party software have i got to buy again?
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: well, ok ya got me i there i guess
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: so your original premise was inaccurate and your followup comment has been likewise dismissed
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: consider yourself pwned
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: CCleaner works. Revo uninstaller works. Plenty of free defrag programs. Nothing you really have to buy at all.
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus enthusiastically high-fives Feral Farkyss!
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: And look! CCleaner has a registry fixer that really shouldn't be used unless you're a total retard, which by that point, you shouldn't own a computer.
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: i don't have a registry *go me!
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: ccleaner only removes registry orphans, just a tidyup tool
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Imagine my surprise when I found that GNOME has a registry.
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Yeah. I consider that a registry fixer, since really, nothing needs to be fixed in a registry.
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: heh
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Technically, they all involve variable amounts of luck, don't they? :)
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that meant for bart?
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xard Tech: Hi all.  I'm being spammed with {stats} tag and can't seem to remove it.  'tag stats off' won't make it go away.  please help
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: statmon?
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: tags off ? help tags
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: err yea, that one
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tags off will get rid of both that and the {chan ch=tech} stuff
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: statmon will leave the other tags alone, but get rid of statmon
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xard Tech: awesome! statmon worked!  thank you all!!!  =) =) =)
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xard Tech: it was starting to get super annoying
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tags are meant to be machine-read, and hidden from human eyes
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Starling bows deeply.
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Starling seems to think you have the right idea.
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: is there a serious security risk in using an unsecured wireless network ? other people being able to "sniff" your connection out and grab passwords and such ? i've read yes and no.
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: something to really worry about ?
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: People can leech off your wireless, use your ip address to do illegal things...
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, well, grabbing passwords is kind of a big thing
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods at you in agreement. 
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Just don't do any online banking/purchasing/etc. on it?  If it's not your network, the possibility exists that all traffic (or just 'interesting' traffic, e.g. CC#'s) gets logged.
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make sure that you don't use the same passwords on "plaintext" stuff like Aard that you use on secured sites that you care about
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: no sorry it's not mine, it's a free unsecured public ap.
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: online banking is actually fine because you're handling the encryption on the other layers
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Yeah, don't do any online purchasing/banking/etc. on that. :P
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: basically i'll i log into is aard and gmail. should be pretty safe ?
T1/r7/2009-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Unless you're reading an email with a sensitive password, or use your gmail password for sensitive things...
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juxtaposed Jexebelle Tech: Anyone on?
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: i am =)
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juxtaposed Jexebelle Tech: any idea how to have map display on mushclient?
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: the map window, or the minimap over room descriptions ?
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Komrad Kessel Tech: download zmud and see the posted scripts ;)
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juxtaposed Jexebelle Tech: minimap
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: trying typing automap ?
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juxtaposed Jexebelle Tech: nope
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: oooo, file > plugins..
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: disable the map redirected to another window
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: not the bigmap, there are two plugins
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: for me it's the seventh one down
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juxtaposed Jexebelle Tech: I do this how...?
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: in file menu, select plugins
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juxtaposed Jexebelle Tech: Maybe...
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juxtaposed Jexebelle Tech: YES!
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juxtaposed Jexebelle Tech: thank you, you're too lovely
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: then selcet "redirect aardwolf map " ... YAY! *lix
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: i usually don't use mush, had to figure it out =P
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juxtaposed Jexebelle Tech: Still, thanks!  Very fast fix
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lexapro Tech: hi i have a questio is anyone around
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lexapro Tech: nvm
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lexapro Tech: i need help with autosay
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erko Tech: I'm a n00b here and i need some basic help - can someone tell me how to set a value in a variable please
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: erm...  what language?
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erko Tech: using mushclient aliase
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erko Tech: using mushclient aliases
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Again, what language?  Lua is default if you haven't changed it.
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erko Tech: Lua - it's unchanged
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: http://gammon.com.au/forum/?bbtopic_id=120
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you don't want to write a script function, you can simply set the "send to" drop-down box to "variable", and put the variable name in the "variable" box, and put what you want to stick in it in the "send" box
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: that's the getting started forum...  Shows everything from triggers to aliases to simple scripting.
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erko Tech: thankyou will check them out
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: I don't have the IDE here to find out: will vb accept  var%i  as a variable name in a loop ? provided I've declared the vars
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: If you have several different DNS servers set up for a connection in Windows does it automatically switch if the first is slow, or only if it can't be reached?
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KrazyWulf Tech: hi i was woundering why i keep geting access denied poping up every so often to a aardwolf.mcl file
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: are you using vista?
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KrazyWulf Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: try running as administrator
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KrazyWulf Tech: the game? how do i do that?
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: right click on the shortcut and choose that option and run in xp compatibility mode that might help
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: I would try admin LAST.
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KrazyWulf Tech: ok
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: thats the only way i can get past those types of errors in vista *shrug*
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: Try the compatibility options in the shortcut. I don't have Vista available ATM so I can't tell you exactly.
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KrazyWulf Tech: ok. and anyway to get echo chats off to work?
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: Or try installing the program in your profile instead of program files.
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KrazyWulf Tech: ok
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: I'm sure running as admin would fix it but that just throws Vista's security out.
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KrazyWulf Tech: oh that dun sound good lol
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KrazyWulf Tech: im geting that error everytime game autosaves and then it says world file saved
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: anyone know how to make the mush client stop beeping at me every time I click on an alias or trigger?
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: does anyone know if in linux, specifically fedora core 4, are there any decent html editors, or does linux support the opening of html files for editing in a textpad similar to windows?
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: vim all the way
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vi (one of the enhanced ones, like vim or nvi), emacs, or pico if you prefer the "easy" ones...
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: well, i'm used to hardcoding everything in text... 
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: nano is much simpler, and you don't have to learn to use it like vi and emacs
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: those are all text editors
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i just want to make sure i can still hard code 
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: what about a good ftp program.. i don't have linux installed yet. i'm waiting for a part to come in the mail and i'm gonna reformat my laptop so i can learn linux
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type ftp ;-)
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: wget
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: if i just type in ftp it'll open a ftp connection to the server?
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: ftp client or server ?
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wget is good for getting...less good for putting
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i need to connect to a ftp to upload the website
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when he starts by talking about coding web pages, it shows he'll need bi-directional client
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, if you type ftp, it'll act like typing ftp in a dos shell, but it'll be better...tab-completion, etc
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: oh, well yeah "ftp <server>" like abe said =)
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: sweet. that solves that problem. we're loading it in vmware on my friend's mac right now to see the options.. but openoffice instead of ms office, and gaim for aim, correct?
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: try filezilla if you want a gui and queueing
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: stapleface, on the Mac, you can get used to the tools by just opening up Terminal.app
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: i really like fireftp the firefox plugin. it's very nice imho
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MacOSX has full BSD tools available
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: try pidgin for an IM client
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: we're just loading fedora on his laptop to see what options there are for installation and he's gonna dual boot it or something to show me some things
T1/r7/2009-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: normal unix versions of ftp, vi, pico, even emacs, etc all exist on the Mac already to start playing with them
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: do you know if fedora core 4 and up supports athlon 64 bit processors?
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: as in if i come across a 64 bit program will it work
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: fedora has all that information on their website
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: should i install lua version 4 or 5? :\
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: 5.1.4 is current
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: groan. been trying to 'instruct' my dad that he'll need at least 500 quid to upgrade to a HD telly with freesat
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: in zmud is there a way to see a condition matched to a trigger?
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KrazyWulf Tech: hey all. anyone here from yesterday when i had my prob?
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: incontinence?
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KrazyWulf Tech: sadly i dun even know what that means when i had the error with aardwolf.mcl
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Well, maybe it was incontinence
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you're using that fecking mushclient, aren't you?
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KrazyWulf Tech: i think i fixed it lol. all i had to do was find the file right click and allow modify it couse everytime i added alias to help me it screwed up lol
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: why DO people do that? I hear nothing except problems with it
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KrazyWulf Tech: ya it was suggested on website and was one i used before
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Tt++ ftw!
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Fark... in all fairness, You probably usually hear about it on tech channel when people ask for help =p
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tabiaz Tech: Mushclient is great! Trust me.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KrazyWulf Tech: its couse mushclient and vista dont like each other
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I don't trust people who lie, Tab!
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Mush client is Ok, but it tends to want to babysit too much.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: but you don't hear nearly as many problems with other clients
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: that was my point
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: that's because more people use mushclient
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: mmmm, I suspect more people use Zmud
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KrazyWulf Tech: dont u haveta pay fer zmud?
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Cmud and Zmud are the most prominent, but mush is pretty high in use also.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Or use the old freeware version, yes
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KrazyWulf Tech: oh. could never find the free one lol
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: But by that logic, Clearly Linux is the most popular operating system, because it is free.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: last time i saw a survey it was around evens mush/zmud
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Last time I saw a survey it was on lifehacker, talking about time management applications. However, thats completely unrelated.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: also true that if something comes from the linux community, it'll have tons of problems that require help solving
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: and windows doesn't?
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: has it's own problems, but not like this
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Like what?
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Lol at implying windows has problems. WINDOWS IS PERFECT.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Heh.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: like what what?
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: they both have their problems, you can't compare them in that way
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I use linux because it is free, new features come out all the time and a lot of people are doing cutting edge stuff
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Linux over the last several kernels is actually losing performance =o
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: windows is not free, until windows 7, every release was basically a gui update with nothing new under the hood
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: that's not true, bast
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: watch out bast, Farkyss will PWN you ;o)
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the nt kernel was far different than previous windows
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: windows 95 and NT4 clearly don't share the same kernel
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: i meant the comsumer versions, not the enterprise versions
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: from that you have parallel developments
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: eh? windows 2000, xp, and vista are not enterprise versions
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: no, but nt4 was
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: yes, and windows 2000, xp and vista were all rebuilds/upgrades of the NT4 kernel
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: check out the Windows naming/numbering system on wikipaedia
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: No matter how you insist on spelling it, it's wikipedia.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: I've been a linux user since version 0.72 when it had to be RAWRITE to a single 3.5" floppy disk and had 30 total commands. I've owned every commercial brand of linux, taught UNIX in a technical college, and been a UNIX system admin, project and operations Technical Director for General Electric, Liberty Insurance, and Royal Bank of Canada (just trotting out some credentials to justify this statement). Linux is awesome but has at least as many problems and limitiations as Windows does.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: what's more important, is how desperately unreliable the Ebay Turbolister application is
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Semper Flat is agreeing with that Feral Farkyss person again...
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: But Flat, Linux Is Not UniX.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: ebay = desperate fo sho
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Trurien: he never said it was. Learn to read.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I didn't say he did. Learn to read. :)
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: but turien, if you don't know unix you aren't likely to be able to exploit all of Linux capabilities.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Then you're rather foolish for trying to correct a mistake you didn't think he made, then.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I wasn't trying to correct anything, I was just chiming in to point out that there is a difference, Daloran.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Flat: I don't know enough to disagree with that, I do know that Unix commands do overlap with Linux quite a bit but still there is a difference.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: actually the only salient difference is that Linux was coded to work on PC architecture... Linus T. deliberately set out to recreate UNIX in every respect and therefore they are FUNCTIONALLY identical.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: OK, that may have been how they started.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: and how they remain
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: what you have to also realise, is that Flat is old enough to have gone -through- the extremely angry ex-tech status that i'm currently at, and has earnt his "retired geek" status, and with it, is utterly patient and calm
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I suppose to be accurate you could say Linux is a subset of Unix.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: Farkyss is wise beyond his years.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i haven't got given the nickname "happiness" for nothing, yknow
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I don't really care for age, I know your experience counts for a lot, but that doesn't change a thing I said.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: Turien, I suspect in your comfortable ignorance (as you said, you don't really know enough to disagree with me) you aren't capable of being convinced of anything negative about Linux. But hey, just my opinion.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: on the brighter side, Hulu Video Downloader v 3.27 has nearly completed downloading all episodes of Firefly to my HD before they are removed forever from Hulu
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I'm sure there are plenty of negatives. And yes, I'm prepared to learn about them. But I wouldn't mind being a little less patronised, or perhaps having my name at least spelt right might be a good start.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: linux isn't unix, but linux and various unix flavors strive to be posix, which defines function and behavior standards
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and that is a core part of them being workalikes, despite some fundamental differences in kernel/core architecture
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: lovely, now scream for help
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Naomii raises an eyebrow.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Linux actually has very little to do with Unix, most notably in that Unix is a microkernel architecture, and Linux is a monolithic kernel.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not necessary to know the differences between a microkernel and a monolithic kernel to know the various flags that ls and ps should accept...
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: all very interesting, but of no real use to joe bloggs
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I'm not talking about ls or ps, I'm responding to the idea that linux is a derivative of Unix when it's really not.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I don't think anyone claimed derivative
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: The only thing that leads to that perception is the GNU toolset, which was a cleanroom rewrite of some base tools in Unix.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: oh, I did, I did
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: And POSIX compliance.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: At best you could say it's Unix-like.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod oby, both of which I said in the workalike and posix statements ;-)
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: at worst you could say its UNIXlike, at best you could say its functionally identical
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a workalike is still not derivative
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: The kernel difference is actually kind of a big deal.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: you're straininga t flies and swallowing camels Abe (again and again). Linus' whole intent was to make a free UNIX. Period. And he effectively succeeded brilliantly.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: His intent was to make a free MINIX.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, his intent was to pass a class, and to create a workalike...
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ford is functionally identical to chevy...a mustang still isn't an impala
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyreens Tech: Does the MUSH client support MCCP?
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes tyreens
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: they are functionally identical as automobiles.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: oh wait, you said that
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: A Yugo and a Lamborghini are functionally identical too.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: For a very narrow definition of function.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyreens Tech: whereabouts would I find that option?
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: They're both four-wheeled vehicles made to transport passengers by way of an internal combustion engine.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: and hence the whole point that led to this pointless conversation... entertaining as it is :)
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: wooo, Ascentia M Series Laptop FTW!
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: did you score it on ebay or sell it?
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I've never heard of them
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: managed to resurrect it, now giving it a reinstall and test to see if it's fit to sell
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: with it's gigantic 3.2gb hard drive, and 32mb of ram
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: though to be honest, i regularly see vista-based laptops in far worse physical state
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: for a 12yr old laptop, it's in pretty clean condition
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: people don't take care of things these days
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: I'd imagine you can foist it off on a student for $100 easily
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nah
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, we still have a working hyundai neuron laptop with 117 MB drive & 2 MB RAM
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: give it more ram and a slightly bigger hard drive, a decent Linux install, and it should be good.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: prolly be aimed towards someone wanting to play with dos apps, or quite oftem we get mechanics needing an old legacy laptop to run their diagnostics equipment
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i'll stick it on ebay for 29 quid
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, w00t! a real serial port! ;-)
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: there you go :)
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nogs
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: 9 pin or 23 pin?
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: 9 pin serial, 25 parallel
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: new enough to have one of those new fangled usb ports, too
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although I've grown fond of some of the usb-to-serial adapters, they deal with straight, null modem, rollover, etc
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I'd love to have a new monitor and keyboard, then I can reuse my old Fujitsu monster. It's only a baby really, at 4 years and counting.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: heh, even if it's USB 1.0
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: had to cobble together a charger for it
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: need to make sure it isn't going to overpower the battery or anything daft
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: a 9yo batter that takes a charge?
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, my techs keep thinking that the printer we have connected to our sparc server is using parallel, with the 25 pin serial cord
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: dunno yet, flat, we'll see
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: well 15 minutes in, so far so good - lappie + socket is ice cold, charger is nice and cool because it's being underworked
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: What's inside those chargers anyway? Is there a need for such a large volume? Some of those bricks do live up to their name..
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: yes, trurien, ac-dc converter + voltage regulators, overvoltage protection etc
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: though i'm using a 19v 4.7A charger when it only needs 19V 2.1A, so it's praps a bit bigger than it needs to be
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I see. I've never opened one of those to have a look inside, seeing as I've never not needed one. Don't know how easy they are to put back together.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: they're not easy to put together, usually sealed usnits
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: chances are if you take one apart it won't go back together again
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: But how come some adapters can be fit into the plug? Makes the plug bigger, but at least you won't have to lug a brick around.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: lower power requirements
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: this charger is 90W, so it's a brick - the ones you get with your router and so on tend to be 9-30W
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: so the coils are much smaller
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: only complaint i've got against them is that they really need to standardise plugs/input voltage, and make DC sockets on laptops a user-replaceable item
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: and no linux, it's having windows 98se
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Lower power requirements, yeah, that seems to fit the pattern.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yeah, standardise plugs at both ends. That would be great.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i hope you're one of these peopel who turn off their chargers and hifi/tv/pc equipment at the wall when they're not at use?
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Who me? Yeah, I unplug them too.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: cool beans
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: this new infra-red capture panel looks like making home energy self-sufficiency a distinct possibility
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Don't like them getting overheated... which usually happens after a long charge.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowstone Tech: I have a problem. I keep getting the following message."Trigger function "process_prompt" not found or had a previous error." Any help avalible?
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: let me guess: Mushclietn?
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: Mushclient?
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Shadowstone nods.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: cackle
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: you can reload the plugin that is broken
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowstone Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: which is probably Aardwolf_stats
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowstone Tech: Yep, the stats one. Thanks
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: if the problem happens repeatedly, then it needs a bug report
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowstone Tech: Still happens after reinstallation :(
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: time for a more reliable client, then
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowstone Tech: Mush is the only one I have...
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: time to invest, then!
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowstone Tech: Hmm... Is the plugin essential?
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowstone Tech: I'm just gonna reinstall my client
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Is that necessary?
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowstone Tech: Getting other script probs now too
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: hmmmm---sounds like something bad has broken -- the plugin isn't essential, but things like the stats window won't work withouth it.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: lol, finding drivers for this lappie might not be all that easy
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: hope windows does a good job
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Good luck there, Farkyss. How old is it again?
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: bout 12 yrs
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Should be within reach for Win98, right?
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: we'll see
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowstone Tech: oki, reinstalled
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: in tt++ what command halts scripts (actions, alias, etc)
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: not a great start ;-)
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: there we go, didn't like 32bit IDE mode being on
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: perhaps unsurprisingly, the battery is stuffed
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: heh, someone good at 'finding' info, find me out what graphics and sound chipset this AST Ascentia M series (M5200) has
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prardon Tech: anyone know how to properly adj the mapper on cmud to get room name and desc correct?
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: anybody recommend a wireless headset with a mic pls?
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: or a wireless headset and a kickass directional desktop mic
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: surf to newegg.com they have mic'd headsets on sale
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: haven't been able to find a wireless w/ mic anywhere
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Anybody using CMUD and think it's decent?
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: oh yeah
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Your mom is called CMUD?
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I'm using a pirated zmud 5.55 right now, do you think my scripts will transfer okay?
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: for basic cmud scripts finger charneus and hit his website.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Well, or ask on spouse, but yeah. :P
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: and no, scripts have to be (generally) rewritten between zmud and cmud
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: How extensively?  The websites claim 'most' scripts should transfer without hassle, but you know how it is with commercial claims and all.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Or to put it another way, what sort of scripts generally need rewriting?
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: to put it another way, all of them
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: anybody have a spare list of all the tags for channels?
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: cmud still have a lot of issues with stability
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: What kind of issues?
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: not the released cmud... the betas however are crap. I've been using cmud with ZERO crashes for months
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: mostly related to the mapper in my case
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I'm just a bit curious to know how "Vast majority of zMUD scripts run without any changes in CMUD." translates to "You have to re-write everything."
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: aren't we ll?
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's zugg, duh :P
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I'm not overly concerned with the mapper, thankfully.  Mainly looking for more functionality within the script engine.  Zmud 5.55 can't even do floating point math, I have to fudge it.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it translates to it the same way as "free updates for life", or "bug free zmud" translates
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: if you don't use a lot of custom databases or are Ozzy's alt you wouln't have much problems :P
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: free updates for life means, lifespan of the product, not your lifespan
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: good part is that you get lua with cmud
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, and zugg learned from prince how to define the lifespan of the product
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that contract says "prince"...I'm now Symbol!
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: to be fair, he's not alone
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you can only support a program for so long
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can only support a legacy program for so long...
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: cmud is more or less a rewrite of zmud... a lot has evolved since zmud was started in the dark ages :P
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's still supporting the program, it just decided to only go back 0 versions
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a [ground up] rewrite of a program is still the program...so it is with most long-lived software programs
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you wouldn't expect them to still be supporting windows 3.1
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he'd have much less resentment if he just came out & said he was renegging on the deal because he couldn't handle the financial burden that it left him under
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: farky, supporting zmud is different than not having an upgrade path
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when windows 95 came out, you could upgrade 3.1 to it
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when 98 came out, you could upgrade 95 to it...MS still actively supported a few versions old
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: isn't 7 versions enough for you?
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wow you have an interesting way of counting...
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: I still have a shrink wrapped version of Windows 2.1 (yes, TWO.1) that I plan to ebay and buy a surplus submarine with the proceeds with one day
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: well i'm using 7.21, so that naturally assumes then there's been at least 7 versions
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: and i don't agree that a complete rewrite constitutes an upgrade
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: With or without nuclear missiles?
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cmud 7.21
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: zmud 7.21
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then I miss the point of you asking if 7 versions is enough
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: there comes a point where the software  isn't maintainable. 7 versions seems like a pretty long run to me
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not enough when there have been 10 versions, and only 7 were included without claiming a change in terms of service
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, 7 was a pretty long run
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and then he made 3 more
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: 7.21 was the last
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Would it be better to get zMUD 7.21 rather than CMUD, if I'm using zMUD 5.55?
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it wasn't
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Me Wantee Freggle Tech: they have a package deal atm.. buy zmud and get free cmud
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Me Wantee Freggle Tech: or the otherway around
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: according to Zuggsoft: You are running version 7.21 of zmud. The latest version is 7.21
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: IMO, cmud is light years beyond 7.22 zmud. better window support, more intuitive scripting (and I'm NOT an accomplished scripter), just as stable, and "pretty"
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Me Wantee Freggle Tech: 35 dollar and you have both
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use the package, throw your 5.55 scripts at it...if they require much tweaking, then jump right into cmud
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Bleh.  I just wish I knew what to expect in terms of redoing my scripts.  I wrote them myself, so I can't just go download them again.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're going to go through the hassle of rewriting them, might as well go forward
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I will have to try the trial version next time I take a qsitting break, I guess.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: most of the rewrites are largely just removing a bunch of quotes around ... and removing the #priority commands
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, that's what makes zugg lying scum, farky ;-)
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: install the trial.. try to import your scripts, if it odesn't work... well don't move if you don't wanna code :P
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: that's for getting you back up and running.  If you want to properly fix your scripts so that you can wring all the extra speed out of them that CMud can potentially give you, that's the more involved part.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Eh, it's not a matter of "I don't want to code", more a matter of "I'm busy levelling and don't want to stop."
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: all those years of free updates for a product for like $30, i'm perfectly happy with it. Only thing i wish was that they'd have fixed the mccp crash error in 7.21 before they stopped production
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Hence, qsitting breaks.  That's why they're so useful.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: Well... isn't 7.21 the latest zMUD?
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: technically, it's the last zmud
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: i repeat( more or less) Starling, install the trial, try to import, if it doesn't work.. stay in zmud and level :P
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if he had said "sorry, I can't afford to keep upholding the grandfathered updates, here's the way it is now", then I'd have no issues...there would be muttering, but it's understandable...it's not THAT he dropped people that bought it just months prior and left them with zero support, it's how he did it
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no it's not, zugg just pretends that it is
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Hmm, okay.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: that's why those got a free update...
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: what's the newest version of zmud then?
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: As long as the scripting language is similar to what I know as zmud script, I should be able to work through it.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: I think there's little argument that Zugg is a poor businessman, however until MUSH gets mapper support... his clients are still the best game in towm.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the newest version of the zmud line is cmud 3.x
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: CMud is a continuation of ZMud, but just like an aardwolf goal is not an aardwolf area quest, CMud is not ZMud
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you just want something for nothing
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aardwolf v3 is still aardwolf...ground-up rewrite or not
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: moving to debate?
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: typical linux user ;-)
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Semper Flat enthusiastically high-fives Feral Farkyss!
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I don't run linux on ANY system under my ontrol
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nah, it's ok, you don't need to justify yourself to us, we understand
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nice try though
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and my MUD client is, was, and always will be free
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: So is mine, wouldn't traid it for the world either.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: trade*
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narchuil Tech: Hi, the help pop-up window of my Mushclient stopped working seems to have stopped working during my session. Any advice what could be the problem ?
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: mushclient is the problem
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: reinstall that plugin
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: is the fact that zugg went from zmud to cmud (to earn more revenues) an indication that the zmud market was saturated (and there were not enough new mudders to support zmud)
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narchuil Tech: how do I do that ?
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: xyliz, nope
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Hmm, well, judging from the answers it seems that moving to CMUD wouldn't involve learning a totally new script system, just updating an old one.  If that's so, then I believe you've helped me out.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: that basically the cmud market is supported mostly by oldtime mudders
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Is the fact that you are asking stupid questions an indication that we should turn the channel off?
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you might well come to that conclusion, starling, sounds plausible
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: chico, there was nothing stupid about the question
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Xyliz's question, not starling.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: and of-course Abelinc because TinyFugue is free it's better than all other...
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I think he was aiming that at Xyliz
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to reinstall the plugin, go to file -> plugins
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Yep, he was ;)
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: (pun intented) :P
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narchuil Tech: ok
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: thought you were jumping on narch's follow-up of how to reinstall the plugin
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narchuil Tech: No success. Still can't see the help window.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i'm sorry, i don't use mushclient, perhaps abelinc can help you
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: narchuil, you're using regular windows, right? (the help plugin has issues under wine)
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narchuil Tech: yes in Windows Vista
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is it running as admin?
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narchuil Tech: it's been working fine for many days
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narchuil Tech: not sure
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you've quit & restarted the program?
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narchuil Tech: I'm going to relaunch the app in admin
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leanaris Tech: Hi, anyone knows if it's possible to do in cmud something like it's done on mushclient on homepage, to separate the map/status/bigmap in another screen? 
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narchuil Tech: yes I have several times
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: leanaris, go to davos.aardcharn.com & check out some of the scripts there
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narchuil Tech: I'll quit and relaunch as admin
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are also some aardwolf scripts in the script repository thingie on your toolbar
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leanaris Tech: thanks, i'll check it out
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narchuil Tech: hmmmm. I disabled the plugin and the help command still doesn't work in the main window...
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narchuil Tech: I'll log out and get back in
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and it's the aardwolf_help, not the aardwolf_helplist plugin that you're doing?
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narchuil Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narchuil Tech: I'll be back in a few seconds
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narchuil Tech: I ran the app as administrator and I still have the problem. What I really don't understand is why the help command doesn't work in the main window when the plugin is disabled.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "tags"...look at the list for 2 lines...HELPS should be YES, and QUIET should be NO
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narchuil Tech: sorry I crashed and was offline for a few seconds
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: I need some help using the package editor in C mud. If anyone has time
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: ask away
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: ok I am trying to add a Repop script and I just don't understand what in the hell i am to do. It says to just go in to Setting and dl file.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: here is what I am looking at http://davos.aardcharn.com/repop.html
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: step 1, download file.  He didn't specify, but you also have to unzip it too
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: put this .pkg file into the My Documents/My Games/Cmud/Packages directory
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: k 1 sec
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: srry k
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: step 2 open CMud's Package Editor.  If you have CMud already connected to a session, it's the big Settings button
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: yep
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: step 3, in the Package Editor, click the File menu, and then click the Open... option
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: a file dialog window will appear (standard windows stuff), and it should be looking at the Packages directory and your new .pkg file you just downloaded should be in the list
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: thank you
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: select that file and click the open button.  At this point, the package is now successfully added to your session.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: thanks for taking the time to help me with that!
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: step 4, from the command line type rephelp
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: is there a command in tt to halt all scripts (equiv to #T+ in zmud)
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Blackdragon Tech: anyone here familiar with aards muschclient, and knows how too get the spellup script?
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Blackdragon Tech: care to guide me? i havent a clue. :P
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: you should be able to just drop it in the plugin directory of mushclient
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Blackdragon Tech: and how, might i go abouts in doing that? and, where do i find the spell up script?
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: which is usually C:\Program Files\MUSHclient\worlds\plugins\Aardwolf
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: ah, you haven't found it...okay
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: well you could try http://code.google.com/p/bastmush/
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: there is a zip file there, with all the stuff in it that you need
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: including the spellup script
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: anyone use davos tracker script
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: just wondering what channel to report to
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: is there a command in tt to halt all scripts (equiv to #T+ in zmud)
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: does anyone know what channel i should assign for a tracker script?
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: echo
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: something which would bother the least number of people.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: i.e. --> Echo
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: thanks guys. . .
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: gtell is usually acceptable.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: echo
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: gt is fire
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: depends how spammy
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: fine*
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: gt is not that great when grouped
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: gt is fire?  omg, call the fire department...  the mud is burning!
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I hate having to see groupies' data scripts on gtell.  Use echo.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Lasher Tech: Maybe I should enable 'tell self' for that kind of thing.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: ok
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: set it to gossip if you would like to see how setwanted works.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Lasher Tech: someone post it, I gotta run to pick ayla up.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: quest trackers are useful on gt imho
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: thanks.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narchuil Tech: Just to let you know. I disabled the help script, quit, relogged and I can now see the help on the main window. Better than nothing :)
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's better in the main window
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: tell self i talk to me self!     Umm, we won't tell anyone you talk to yourself if you pledge your soul to Ivar!!
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narchuil Tech: off
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Just type tech to turn it off.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narchuil Tech: mb
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narchuil Tech: yes, I figured that one out, hehe
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narchuil Tech: thanks for the help
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Blackdragon Tech: c:\program files\mushclient\worlds\aardwolf\spellups.mcl was not found.
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Blackdragon Tech: that keeps showing up every time i try to open my spellup script
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Blackdragon Tech: any ideas?
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: why wont ^&%*{LastCommand}$ work in zmud?
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: cmud*
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: all the playlists except 'on the go' have disappeared from my ipod. attached to comp I can see that all the files are still there. any idea what happened or how to fix ?
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: yes, I tried to remove and readd
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharvis Tech: Good evening, I am looking for a MUD client that is playable in a browser but is NOT the flash client, that one seems to give me problems. Any suggestions to ones that I can play Aardwolf with?
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharvis Tech: anyone?
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alok Tech: i like zmud but i am not an expert
T1/r7/2009-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharvis Tech: not persay useable in a browser
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: I'm using the mushclient, and want to do some more complex scripts, but have no knowledge of any of the languages supported.  Which one would be the easiest to learn?
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Lua - it's what most of his examples are done in.
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Plus, it's integrated into the client.
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: ok, thanks, do you know of any good resources that are mud-based to teach somebody the basics?
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: I'd imagine you can google "lua tutorial", or he's got some fairly good resources on the MUSH forums...
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: ok, thanks again
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Sure thing
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: what function in lua could be used to add to a variable?  Say I wanted to count and record the number of parry's, dodges etc, and later call them up to see percentages?  Seems SetVariable is close, but not sure how to make it add things
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: actually scratch that, I'll just use JMC to do this analysis, since I can easily program with tintin
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: I really wish mushclient had tintin capability
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: erm...  I missed the earlier comments due to being at work, but have you tried using + to add things together in lua?
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: a nice *nix cli jabber/msn client, anyone?
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: Pidgin integrates Jabber, I think.
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: and msn, of course
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: gimme a sec, I'll find the website
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: http://www.pidgin.im/about/
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: cli...
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: ack, sorry, didn't see the CLI there.
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: already using pidgin, need something for my remote shell
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: centerim might work.
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimamatl Tech: who has the website with a few cmud scripts.....mainly a spellup script
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: davos.aardcharn.com
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimamatl Tech: thats it. thanks, i formatted and lost all my scripts
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus smiles happily.
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: hey guys, if my cell phone isn't charging from one charger but is from another, and my other phone charges fine from both chargers, what can i do to fix that?
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: smash everything
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: make sure the connections are good
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i don't have a hammer :(
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: with your forehead. be a man
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: check and make sure that the chargers both output the same voltage. If one phone needs less voltage than the other, it will charge with both, but the phone that needs higher voltage won't charge off the lower-output charger. You'll need to be careful if that's the case, because charging the lower-voltage phone with the higher-output charger on a regular basis can fry the charging circuits with an overvoltage.
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: lacrimosa, they are the same charger yes
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: who can tell me why replacement injectors for my car are so gobsmackingly expensive?
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: do the injectors include labor
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: no, xyliz
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: and at 120 quid each, sounds a bit steep to me
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: anyone here play with the fedora core 11 live cd?
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i got fedora core 5 installed and running but i can't update becasue fc5 is no longer supported, my dvd burner on this computer is shot so i can't burn the whole dvd
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starlight Tech: Anyone know how to fix the yell bug on mush? ^.^
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Use feindish's fix
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: whats the bug?
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starlight Tech: O.o Whats his fix?
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Check his finger for his website iirc
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starlight Tech: Anyone know how to fix the XML to XSL issue?
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starlight Tech: Can someone walk me through creating a script on Mush via tells please?
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: the MUSHclient forums have video for that.
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starlight Tech: Got a link for that
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: sometimes i think this channel should be called "Mushclientsupportchat"
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's great when you already have the link
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: erm...  I suppose I can go to the page and look at the forums under the "Getting started" section and then post the link here...
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: don't. he said he got it already
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starlight Tech: No, I dont have a link yet, and im not a he.
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but you said you have earlier
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: actually, you did say you had the link...  [24 Sep 18:52:10] Starlight Tech: Got a link for that
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starlight Tech: It was a question, I missed the questionmark.
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: have you tried doing what I said I _could_ do?
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starlight Tech: mushclient.com?
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: www.lmgtfy.com/?=mushclient+video
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Blessed Balaam rapidly nods twice at Seltsimees Dagnir, in complete agreement.
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starlight Tech: TY SOOO MUCH
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: YOU'RE WELCOME
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir . o O ( cruise control rules )
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: .. .But you still have to steer.
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir nods at Daloran.
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: NOT IF YOU'RE BILLY MAYS
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Even if you're billy mays. Why do you think he died?
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: cocaine ?
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Wait, I thought you pressed the cruise control button and could take a nap.  Is this why my car keeps crashing itself?
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Hell of a drug. Hell of a drug.
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: ;o)
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No Balaam, thats because it runs windows.
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ok, everything derailed. my work here is done
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Lexus had a car ages ago that had Windows CE on it.
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Linux cars were clearly first, and better.
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no way, apple all the way
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: linux cars wouldn't work on 90% of the existing road network tho
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: here it goes..
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, you can run windows on virtually everything
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Was actually being serious =p There was a linux car in .... think it was 96 back at one of the linux conventions that was a pretty mature product
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: h 4
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: silly fanboys with your invalid arguments
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: all linux vs windows arguments are invalid
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starlight Tech: Now for the bad news, I have no clue which one goes to the video you guys are specifically talking about it? I feel like such a noob.
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: what nutcase wants a car running an OS?  Sounds like a dangerous next step towards the robot uprising.
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's the third hit on google ffs
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starlight Tech: I didnt have a problem with scripting my old client, which was made for another mud, however I had to renew my computer and everythings gone.
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Lol Balaam... for audio/navigation/voice control/etc
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Starlight:  http://gammon.com.au/forum/?bbtopic_id=120
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: the linux car would work on the roads, you just would have to build it yourself.
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, sorry. IT'S THE THIRD HIT ON GOOGLE FFS
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir . o O ( good cop, bad cop )
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Starlight: You know you can't install mush client via mxit, right?
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starlight Tech: I have a question
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: So ask it.
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starlight Tech: would %2 %3 and %4 work for * on mush for a script? Other than %1? So I can set variables like that?
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starlight Tech: I still cant figure out how to set a variable in the first place =P
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: well, what are you trying to set?
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starlight Tech: Goody, So I can set my aliases according to that, then my aliases would become my script?
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: usually %1-2-3 etc are variables * is a wildcard
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: In the instance of ' Your * does * to *' %1 would apply to the first *, %2 to the second, and so on.
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starlight Tech: Im trying to make your average quest script, The one that shows what quest mob you gotta kill, and where.
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: if it's through Lua, you would use:   SetVariable( "varname", "%1" )
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: not really, you could set it as " Your %2 does %5 to %1 "
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: You could just as well use one of the MANY mush scripts alrady created for that purpose, such as Nick Gammon's
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: take a look at the "Making a script to count mobs killed" forum post at http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=8411  It will show you how to assign variables.
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Hell, I think I still have one somewhere around here.
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: There's also a script which shows a popup win in mushclient and various other bits like spellups and minimap and campaign popup at http://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/Intro
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Back when i still used Mush, i found Balaam's scripts to be very handy.
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starlight Tech: Now, How do I re-load my plugins?
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: file > plugins > add
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: file menu > plugins ?
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: you can dis/reable them ?
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starlight Tech: I give up =(
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starlight Tech: This is like... Sooo sucky for me lol
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delgar Tech: Is there an option clientside or mudside that needs to be enabled to allow the AardTelnet package to work with CMUD once it is installed (or reboot CMUD after package install)?
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what is the aardtelnet package?
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delgar Tech: It's the CMUD package that grabs the Telopts telnet packets from Aard and creates CMUD events.
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd probably need to at least reconnect to Aard, so that cmud and Aard negotiate to have telopts turned on
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delgar Tech: Yeah, I was thinking that or restart CMUD.  I'll give those a try and see what happens.
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delgar Tech: Reconnect did the trick, thanks for the idea Abelinc.
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-)
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: I just logged on in Cmud and there is  a <mapstart> then the map <mapend> followed by my stats... what happened?
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: You used MUSH. ;)
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHh
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you were using a client that had a map capture script set up, now you're not
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: soo how do i stop it?
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are you also now seeing {chan ch=tech}?
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: MUSH turns those tags on automatically if you're using the MUSH client. :P
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: you got it doctor
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and {stats blah}?
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type tags off
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or better, install some scripts that actually use them ;-)
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: ahhh I love this channel. Thank you guys
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: ok, i've given up on linux. so i have a question. i have a 32 bit copy of windows xp, and the computer has a 64 bit chip. i have no programs that require a 64 bit processor, will the 32 bit xp work just fine?
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Think so, yeah. Just out of curiosity, though, why did you give up on Linux?
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: no dvd burner, fedora 11 live is garbage, anything older than 10 isn't supported anymore.
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Ah, OK.
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i've been fighting with various kinds of linux for the past week trying to get things to work right, screw this. lol. i gave it a shot, i quit.
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: No running DVD burn programs, or too much of a struggle?
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I know how it feels, Stapleface.
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i have a dvd burner that does everything but burn dvd's. don't ask, i don't know
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Heh, OK.
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: So.. that's not really a Linux problem then
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Well, I've just found a bunch of programs that can be used.
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tod Tech: its a user problem :)
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Drtoki rapidly nods twice at Tod, in complete agreement.
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Drtoki: it's a Linux-related problem :P It's tough to expect people just switching over to go look for stuff like that, the expectations coming over from Windows are just different.
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: well thats for the most recent version of fedora to burn it
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: how do i change the F3 - F11 keys so that I can bind them to macros
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i have older versions that installed and will run, but yum won't update and i've found nothing to help
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: And to be fair, we mostly want our computer to do what it's supposed to, regardless of OS, yeah.
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: in cMud
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Computers will do exactly what you tell them to, no more, no less
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Drtoki rapidly nods twice at Daloran, in complete agreement.
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Sometimes what you think you're telling them to do isn't what they get.
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tod Tech: the one thing admirable with linux is i never ever had a virus problem and not using any antivirus software
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: That's where the interface thing comes in.
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: erm...  you're crazy then.  Run clam
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Tod: Yeah, but I would think plenty got passed on without you noticing.
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: If you didn't have an antivirus software - How can you know you've never had a virus problem? mebbe you just never realized
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tod Tech: hmmm... couldn't have been bad cos things seem stable.. still
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I would agree it's great you pretty much never get *affected* by viruses, but not *getting* any viruses is a bit difficult.
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: One of the things I like about Linux is not having to defragment everything every week for optimal performance
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: There is that, the filesystem is useful :)
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: if you haveto defrag weekly, you're doing it wrong
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tod Tech: and the find command... works like magic
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: find is too slow...locate ftw :-)
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: slocate is fun too.
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Grep =o
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: awk
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: piping
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: would there be any advantages in purchasing and installing a 64 bit os for my comp instead of 32?
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: Do you use 64 bit programs?
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: not to my knowledge
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: It could give you more virtual memory, depending on the OS
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: only if your architecture can handle it
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Better memory management, I guess? But otherwise you probably could run fine with normal 32-bit programs.
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: anyone can recommend me a better router than linksys wrt120n?
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tevez Karlos Tech: i'm on a 15mbps connection and need to share with at least 3 comps, some using torrents
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: i'm a fan of Asus 520GLU
T1/r7/2009-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: its around 40ish and you can use custom firmware
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: out of curiosity, is there a better mp3 player out there than winamp?
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Foobar
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Songbird
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: ipods are much more portable.
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: for portability i have a nintendo ds. lol. i mean for like organizing and whatnot on the computer.
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: so i can click an artist and it'll show me the cd's i have of theirs, etc
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: MediaMonkey.  It has the word "monkey", so it's better.
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: better? Different, maybe, but it really depends on what you're looking for. If you have a large collection, MediaMonkey is awesome. It's not choking on my 54000+ tracks.
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: there's Songbird and aTunes, as well. All free, but those two seem to have more issues with large collections.
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: 20 gigs of music, some 10k songs. that will be heavily trimmed tho here soon. i'm copying them to my laptop and deleting my wife's bs off it
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: as long as you leave hers where she can access them, I don't see an issue with that. Any of the above should handle 10k songs easily.
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: by the way, don't cat mp3s out to /dev/dsp  It doesn't work as well as I hoped.
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: heh, not so likely. I'll remember not to do that on the Ubuntu box.
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: mainland europe needs nuking, bunch of untrustworthy gits
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: uk needs nuking
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no more chavs and lasses that look like pigs
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i'm beginning to hate what ebay has become
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it's like the labour government but worse
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: What have they done this time?
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: well, put it this way - if someone from mainland europe buys an item, you can be assured that (from long experience) in at least a third of cases they'll pay for it with paypal, wait for the item to arrive, then get their money refunded through paypal claiming they haven't received it
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: and paypal, being owned by ebay, and being basically a nazi organisation, will refund it with no quibbles
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: Ah, I see.  I gave up selling things on Ebay for a similar reason... when they would keep letting people who I'd reported for not paying or whatever, I gave up.
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it's pantently ridiculous how the buyer is protected, but the seller is shafted. repeatedly
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yuudoku Refinnej is agreeing with that Feral Farkyss person again...
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you might well say: Ahh, well make sure you send items through a tracked delivery system
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: That's expensive as hell, especially on items that you didn't sell for much.
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: now ebay have made it so that in most categories you're NOT ALLOWED to charge for delivery, so it renders the whole tracked thing impossible
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: What???  I hadn't heard they'd done that.  That's rediculous!
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: well yeah, so not only do you lose the item because the bastards already received it, you lose the postage cost, and the listing fees
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: personally i think ebay taking over paypal should be an issue for the monopolies commission - it's dodgy as hell
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm pretty sure you can send stuff with mail you have to sign for
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: sucks to be you. got ripped off bad?
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: individually not much money, dagnir, but collectively a fair amount, and more annoying is the loss of time sorting it all out
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i'm cash poor, but time poorer
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: don't spose any of you have a service manual for an epson dx8400?
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: here's an open-ended question for you: Why is there so much utter crap on the internet, and not the info you want?
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ebay taking over paypal? paypal has always been owned by ebay...
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Is there bad lag, or just me?
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: i am using the flash player and the last command is not working...
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dick Tater Fertain Tech: someday, if i'm lucky, i'll be so worthless my company will have to give me the title of project manager.
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sca'th Naomii Tech: that sounded very dilbert-esque
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dick Tater Fertain Tech: ha!
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: antivirus programs are not supposed to cock up filesharing between pc's, grr
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: how much of those antivirus program screwups are due to copy-protection antipiracy safeguards 
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: none, talking about file sharing between 2 pcs on my home network
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: off it comes!
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: but is "filesharing" another word for "piracy"
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sca'th Naomii Tech: smirk
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: in this case, no
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sca'th Naomii Tech: im glad i don't use windows *duck
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tod Tech: on mushclient theres a mudDatabase plugin.. anyone know whats it for?
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emir Icebergovich Tech: is it possible to block the internet accessin Vista, for users of the guest account?
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: zmud question, my characters window is floating, how do I dock it?
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SpyWolf Tech: what is moddem messaging
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: does anybody have a lua spellup script for mush?
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: or do i gotta do some manual labour here and figure it out myself :p
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: does anyone know the formula for determining hitroll?  So far I know it's eqbonus + 1/2str, but how does dex help it, and what is the initial value?  (i.e. damroll seems to have an initial value of 15)
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I don't think dex adds any hitroll per se.
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Also, good freaking luck getting anybody to tell you a damned thing about Aard's math; people act as though giving it out would somehow ruin the game, cause the sky to fall,  and generally cause famine, plague, and disease.
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: hmm, well there is soemthing else at play, because I can't account for about 100 of my current hitroll
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It's idiotic, but there it is.
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Checking spells, eq, etc. is all you can do
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: well I don't care if people don't want to give it out, I'll figure it out eventually, but it'd be nice if someone knew and could save me the work
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: some muds permit Dex to increase HitRoll (if Dex assists in defence then Dex assists offense)
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: yeah, I suspect that it's dex, but I'll have to do a ltitle math to be sure
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: what is the underlying theory behind that attitude? personally i think transparent mechanics make for more enjoyable gameplay
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: "Because knowing the math and playing by numbers will ruin the mystery of the game" or some garbage like that.
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: so write your own mud and be done with it
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Thank god those type of people aren't in charge of the real world, or else you'd have to play using smoke signals because electricity would never have been discovered :P
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: That is one of the common responses to it, thanks Ani :)
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: well for those of us that enjoy it, lets share, and forget about those that don't
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayudeme Denglish Tech: I think it's important to make a distinction between real world and game. If they were the same what would be their use?
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I agree, but alas the Important People don't.
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xyliz avoids muds that believe in the mushroom theory of mudding [feed the players a lot of bs and keep them in the dark]
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: hehe, who cares if the important people share or not, lets figure it out ourselves =)
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I think having the math generally available would be very pro-analysis, pro-objectivity, and less biased.  To think that they're trying to balance PK but hiding the equations.  Instant epic failure, just add whining and serve.
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: ok, I see now that dex has no bearing, hitroll is simply 15+1/2str+eqbonus
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: Is there a way to make mushclient not clear the command line after you enter a command?
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: nevermind, found it
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: go to Game->Configure->Command, uncheck autorepeat command
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: err check it
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Ok. What would prevent someone from seeing tell tags (and getting tells sent through even with catchtells on) when they have tags tells on, tags on, tags quiet off, can see all channel tags, but no tell tags?
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: they have a trigger gagging it?
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: It's on the FMUD client on Aardwolf page.
T1/r7/2009-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: No ideas?
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: how can i get the big map to not jumnp to the front whenever i recall on mushclient without disabling it entirely?
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: does anyone know how to prevent the big map from stealing the focus whenever i recall?  i don't want it entirely disabled because it is useful in vidblain but holy cow is it annoying to have focus taken away from the main window
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: if you only use it for vidblain you can disable it and, when in vidblain, type bigmap
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: there you will be able tos ee the bigmap on your screen
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: not as a separate window though
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: but it will be in my main screen right? that won't help me much i need the static view scrolling really kills me for maps
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cookar (
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Phalae comforts Cookar.
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: Sorry, that's the best a non-techie person like me can give :(
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: looking for someone else who is running the scipt that puts the map in a little floating window (I forget where I got it)
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: on mush? it comes with the client available from aardwolf.com
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I'm running zmud
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok, found the windows, but they are docked.  in zmud, how do i make them floating again?
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: true
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: this is probably pretty basic but how do you gag a line of text in mush?
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A single Wissie peers around herself intently.
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nefarian Tech: can someone tell me how to create a multiple-command alias using MUSHclient?
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: game > configure > alias
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: create an alias, give it a name, in the send box, type your command, press enter, type another command, rinse repeat
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nefarian Tech: so no need for separator 
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's why the window is so big, no need for a separator
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: only need the seperator to stack commands in the command line
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you wanted to use the separator, then you would use send to execute instead of send to world
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nefarian Tech: got it. thanks everyone!
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that tells it that it must parse/think about what is typed, at which time it'll "notice" the separator
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: ok, who knows where i can buy replacement surface-mount microswitches like they use in laptops for the power/mouse buttons?
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: hmm even when i minimize the bigmap window it still unminimizes and focuses on it when i recall :( i should have said that in my note
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, chico's suggestion wouldn't help
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Hmm, i had the same issue, but i don't recall how i fixed it...
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bigmap auto off is what fixes it...that setting tells it not to auto-un-minimize
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Aha, so it was a combination of the two, sorry. Like i said, its been a while since i used mush.
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: thanks this is killing the problem i dont' even have to minimiZE
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DaRicoDude Tech: Khanya pcs has good security.
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Any tt++ user know, is it possible to nest multiple if statements in themselves? For example #if {this != this} {#if {blah} {blah} {blah}} {#nop}?
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: I just tried it, it didn't like it
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: this '#if {1} {#if{1} {l}}' gives an error
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: That isn't a full statement
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: wait
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: it does work, space between if and {
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: #if {1 = 1} {#show yes} {#show no}
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: so yes :)
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: Was going to say, time to switch over if it didn't do nested if statements. Heh.
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: So in theory, it should allow for a long chain of #ifs? Such as #if {"$variable" == "Variable_value"} {#if {"$2variable} {} {}} {} and so on for an infinite chain of variable checks?
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Any tintin++ users know how i would escape an escape? My channel log script works to an extent by doing #act {chan ch=ftalk%1} {#log {Aardwolf falk} %1} but all my logs have the "}" from the tags, and if i do #act {\{chan \ch=ftalk}%1 } it will read the "%1" literally as that. Any ideas?
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: why are you escaping the 'c'...?
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xeleth Tech: for mushclient, what do I use to captire a variable?  "* gossips, "*" etc  if I want to use that variable
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: %1, %2, etc
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xeleth Tech: that captures it?  what repeats it?
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, * captures, %1 uses
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xeleth Tech: ahh, k, thanks.
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but as the aard MUSH ships with channel capture script already, some of what you want is already in that
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Any tt++ users know, If i were to do #act {\{stats}Blah} {blah}, how would i escape from the escape, the \ makes it read everything literally so i can't do a wildcard, so somehow i need to, for lack of a better way to explain, escape the escape.
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you can tell it to use regexp, then use [] instead of an escape
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: For any that care, i found out how. #help escape codes --  { will se
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: For any that care, i found out how. #help escape codes --  \x7B will se
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Grr, damn parsiing
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, you're expressing the curly brace by its ascii code instead of typing it, we get it :-)
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 7B & 7D
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Nod
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: I have a tt++ problem
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: Is there anyway to activate an action inside an alias?
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: you can create actions inside aliases, or remove actions, etc
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: is it an obvious way? i'm trying the obvious, it doesnt work
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: if you wanted an action to fire in the middle of the alias, you might try #show {whatever triggers the action} stuck where you want it to fire.
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Use an alias to change the function of the act
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: #alias {alias} {#variable for act} {alternative variable for act}
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: if you're #act uses %1, %2, etc... add an extra % for each level deep you are. I've been doing it for 2 years and it still takes me trial and error sometimes.
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: Hrm. Actually, i turn it on then off with an action in the middle. I bet the lag is making it so i turn it off before it sees the result
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: so #alias {blah}{#act %%1 does %%2} or something along those lines
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: if its a 1 shot action created by an alias, you can have it #unact itself... stick it at the end of the action
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: its not one shot, buyt i have an idea
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: What are you trying to do? Perhaps being more specific will allow us to help you better.
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: I am trying to set it up so that I have an alias that defs up all my unaffected def ups
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: You mean your buffs?
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: yeah
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: my spellup script is posted on the tt++ forum... you might check it out. The program's author just corrected it to run with the newest version of tt since I'm on a bit older version
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: you load it and type respell, it checks what spells you know and are unaffected by, and casts them
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Nod, i use Cartman's it works pretty good.
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: I use my own
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Drtoki beams with pride at herself, she must feel very proud.
T1/r7/2009-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: Oops, infinite loop...
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: would anyone know why c mud is giving me 2 command lines on one mud while the other one only has 1?
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: multi-window?
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: its never done it before today
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shakralay Tech: How do you use an aliase to change the value of a variable?
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: which client?
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shakralay Tech: MUSH
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: in pseudo-code: alias (command) (variable=value)
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shakralay Tech: I want to ahve the variable "tt" to change the vairable, so "tt dragon" would change the "target" variable to dragon
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: Shakralay, that doesn't help untill you tell us which mud-client you are using...
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shakralay Tech: Ive stated its MUSH
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: he already said mush
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: s/he/she/
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: aah, my fault... missed taht line
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shakralay Tech: She
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shakralay Tech: Coding is so different with MUSH than with Zmud
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shakralay Tech: There isnt a code that both Clients use?
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shakralay Tech: I think they both support multiple codes
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: zMUD only supports its own tintin variant.
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: MUSH supports lua, perl, python
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: zmud supports zscipt, vbscript and one more if i don't misremember, cmud supposrts lua too
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shakralay Tech: im on Zmud at the moment...
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shakralay Tech: VBScript and JScript
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shakralay Tech: on Zmud also
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: Shakralay, open up the alias window and in Alias: put "^tt (?P<target>.*)$ then check the regexp box and you should be set
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: Shakralay, open up the alias window and in Alias: put "^tt (?P<target>.*)$ then check the regexp box and you should be set
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: crap
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shakralay Tech: without inverted comma?
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: ^tt (?P<target>.*)$
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: hmm... my less than and greater than gets eaten
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: ^tt (?P{target}.*?)$
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: replace the curlies with less/greater than signs
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: Could you not see your own gt/lt signs? They show up for me
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: strange... they got eaten by me
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shakralay Tech: where am i putting ^tt (?P<target>.*?)$
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: i have to look in to that
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chosig nods.
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: shows up in channel history
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shakralay Tech: which part is in send?
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: in the Alias: square
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: you don't need anything in sent, since you just want to set a variable... nothing is sent back to the mud
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: the P<target> tells it to put all the stuff after tt in to the target variable
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shakralay Tech: it requires someitng in send value
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: just put ColourNote ("white", "red", "%1") there or something
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: perhaps
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shakralay Tech: I can get wildcards to work, how do i refer to variable in the send value? It is variable> ?
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shakralay Tech: bah, its eating bits
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shakralay Tech: which script is being used when using the varialve window that pops up?
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shakralay Tech: variable rather
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: hi im using mushclient. how do i make an alias that does this.. get can demon;remove second;wear can;enter   ?
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: configure->alias then just press enter after each command for a newline
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oblige Tech: select aliases in the balk over the client, then enter the text without semiclonc, henn press OK
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: oh enter after each command.. thanks :)
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shakralay Tech: How do i make it execute the script instead of inputting it? Do functions require a hash infront?
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: not unless the script is a tintin variant
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shakralay Tech: im going to scream soon
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shakralay Tech: this client is less then useless
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: MUSH? I agree.
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: -5
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shakralay Tech: If i knwo how to use funcation in MUSH then i can do it myself
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: you can use perl in mush
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: you just have to have an interpreter installed
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shakralay Tech: how do i change the script?
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: do you know if there is a tintin interpreter for mush?
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: So when you put those lines in the MUSH alias, what happens when you trigger the alias?
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shakralay Tech: this is what im wanting, in name it should be "tt *" then in value it should be "setvariable target %1"
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: lua's the main one it uses
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shakralay Tech: a tintin interpreter would be most helpful here
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shakralay Tech: i am very good at coding in Zmud
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: yeah I agree shak, I use mush, but am limited to fairly basic programming
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: if I could find a tintin interpreter I could do so much, plus have all the nice maps
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: Yeah, I'm really good only with tintin. The original
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shakralay Tech: how do you use funcations in MUSH script?
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: I think that your only hope for advanced programming is to learn lua, something I'm not able to do
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shakralay Tech: Like i want to change a variable in the value
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: There's a tutorial in the MUSH forums
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: if you want tt++ stuff in mush read this: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?id=7764&page=2
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shakralay Tech: is lua what MUSH uses by deault?
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: yeah Chosig, I read that earlier, but it is really just one limeted example, I'm looking for full tt++ functionality in mush somehow
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: why not just use tt++? (or wintintin if you're on windows)
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: cuz you can't get the separated map and chat, and a few other nice plugins already made
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shakralay Tech: which script language does MUSH use?
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: lua
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: So basically you're just lazy. :)
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shakralay Tech: OMG FINALLY!!!
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shakralay Tech: Its working!
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shakralay Tech: jsut neeeed to find lua variant
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: And you _can_ get separated chat/map on tt++, but it's just not as 'pretty'
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shakralay Tech: SetVariable ("<vaiable name>", "<new variable value>")
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: yeah prolly, but you're right I'm too lazy, and I can't justify learning a new programming language just to mud
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: I can barely justify mudding as it is, let alone learning a new language to play it =)
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shakralay Tech: Ugh, im half done, hwo do you refer to a variable in an alise?
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: I think lua uses @
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: @variable
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shakralay Tech: tried that
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shakralay Tech: thats what i sued in Zmud
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Lua doesn't use a variable character - you can declare the variable and just use the word
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shakralay Tech: hm kk
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shakralay Tech: nopers
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shakralay Tech: cast "ballistic attack" target
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shakralay Tech: just put in target
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shakralay Tech: no vlaue of "target" vaiable
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shakralay Tech: not rather
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: ...did you declare it?
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shakralay Tech: declare?
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shakralay Tech: ?
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: var.target
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shakralay Tech: just outputted var.target
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shakralay Tech: Zmud was so much easier, all had to do was use to declare variavle
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shakralay Tech: variavle
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shakralay Tech: err canr type
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: There's usually tons of MUSH users. I guess they're not on atm
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Drtoki shrugs helplessly.
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shakralay Tech: grin, i would seu Zmud but i cant think of hwo to get rid of useless lines of info
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shakralay Tech: [160/160hp 150/150mn 500/500mv 0qt 850tnl] >
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shakralay Tech: {stats}13/12,18/16,12/12,17/16,12/12,22/17,100,100,100,26,21,You are Standing.,9999,160/160,150/150,500/500,600,0,0,0,850,1,5
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shakralay Tech: all this uselss clutter
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shakralay Tech: that fololows every line
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: If you want to get rid of it, read help tags
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shakralay Tech: MUSH and liek clients interpret it, it seems
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: local MyTarget \ MyTarget = GetVarliable("target") \ cast 'magic missile' MyTarget
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: newline on \
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: just gag it?
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Sorry, that's "help statmon", not help tags
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shakralay Tech: ooh, didnt like that local mytarget
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shakralay Tech: statmon stopped stats
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowzero Tech: is there any way to change the colour of a particular channel output?
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: colorset
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowzero Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: whats a good place to go to for laptop ram. i watch newegg and ebay, just curious if there is somewhere a tad cheaper/more reliable
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lexapro Tech: how do i make a box for my score
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lexapro Tech: you guys know how to make a window for my score?
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how you would do that would depend on what client you use
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lexapro Tech: mush client
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: check out some of the already existing scripts/plugins for your client that already make a separate window for stuff
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lexapro Tech: im on gammon
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there is already a "stats" window in mush with much of that info
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lexapro Tech: but the score has everything....
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nakami Tech: l
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(UNWANTED) Candor Tech: Anybody here good with zmud? I had an accident.
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lexapro Tech: how do "chats echo off" automaticallly
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: file -> plugins, open the chats plugin
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lexapro Tech: ty
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: change where it initializes the value to true, so that it is false
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lexapro Tech: "echo = true" becomes "echo - false"
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lexapro Tech: right?
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, with = instead of -
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lexapro Tech: thanx
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i think the whole internet needs deleting and starting again
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it's too full of utter garbage
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir nods at Feral Farkyss.
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: if you can't navigate it
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyreens Tech: Is zMud not recommended for Aard?
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: Why wouldn't it be?
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: sure, most popular client out there
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: whatever client you like is reccommended for Aard.
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: It is your personal choice.
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyreens Tech: I'm guessing there's a way to get rid of all this random crap that shows up then
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Depends in which "random crap"
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: on*
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyreens Tech: Looks like it's reporting my stats
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: type statmon
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyreens Tech: ah. Nice
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyreens Tech: Two questions...is there anything special I would need to do to use the zMud mapper? I'm having trouble getting the room name.  
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: turn on the map tags.  the TAGS command should help you out there.
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyreens Tech: Ah...thanks Urwin
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: after that, you may or may not need to create triggers to then #TAG the info so that ZMud can recognize what got sent.
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: and of course, outside of the configuration part you are going to want some triggers that #NOMAP/#NODIR things so that they aren't mistaken as room info or that you moved.
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyreens Tech: I'm going to have to learn how to use this damn program after all these years...
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: does anyone know why my triggers would randomly not fire? i have triggers to play wav files when certain events happen and recently they have not been going off?  (mushclient)
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Because either they are matching the wrong thing, or a sound is already playing.
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: ctrl-alt-T will turn on tracing to show whether or not the trigger is actually being matched.
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i think it has to be the second lemme turn on that tracing
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: so its triggering would another program playing a sound interfere with this trigger playing the sound?
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cloverleaf Tech: Is there anyway to not have subscribed channel messages appear in the main window but only in the chats window?
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cloverleaf Tech: err.. any way
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: chats echo off
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cloverleaf Tech: ah, thanks
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cloverleaf Tech: off
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: check out the FAQ and the plugins page where you got the client on Aard's website, it tells things like this :-)
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayudeme Denglish Tech: Thanks for that Abelinc. I recieve a lot of question regarding that stuff that I don't know how to answer. :)
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habana Tech: any mush client users know where the autoclear command line option is
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Highlight and backspace
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: go to Game->Configure->Commands, uncheck auto-repeat
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Habana Tech: thank you much
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: what's the best (most popular) database protocol?
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lexapro Tech: what is a database protocol for?
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: anyone Lua gurus around?
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: just ask your question :p
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: never mind got it, thanks :)
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Blessed Balaam boggles at the concept.
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: This channel always amuses me.
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: I did a good thing?
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: what're some good things to unmerge on gentoo if i am low on diskspace?
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: check your cached packages, clean those up
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: also, packages don't normally take up as much room as user files.  Check directories with du
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, start with "sudo du -sh /*"
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then use that in subsequent directories that seem bloated
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: hi, what client can i use on a mac?
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: mudwalker, tinyfugue, or tintin ?
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: I use tt++ on my mac
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: cartman, does tt++ stand for tintin++ ?
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: tt++ ftw!
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the best for most Mac users would be MUSHclient under parallels, fusion or a wine derivative
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Nodnod tt = tintin
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes vampire
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: ok thanks
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: wow, abelinc recommended something other than tinyfugue
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I do all the time
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: yeah, tintin++
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude is amazed.
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: abelinc provided the best solution
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude finds the cheese.
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tinyfugue's great for geeks, but it's not for most people
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: abelinc i'm not a geek... what is a good mud client ?
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Tt++ and Tf are not recomended for newer players, they are a bit more techy than the rest.
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm a geek, I can bend it to my will...most MacMacs wouldn't handle it well
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: MUSH will babysit you nicely.
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: abelinc i'm not a geek though
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUSHclient
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BiG BaD Bits Tech: wintin is prety easy
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: abelinc does that run on my computer?
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Nod wintin is nice, but mush is more for the non-geek
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what is your computer? :P
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: it's this blue one
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: by acer
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: it only runs on green or purple ones.
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: that's one the number
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: by acer, then yes it'll run on it
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: like its called ' one'
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BiG BaD Bits Tech: if u have vista wintin might be a lame to install have to find the framework
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: like how blue from american express is called 'blue'
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: ooh I thought they had an old SGI toaster
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i'm not saying ' that one' like mccain called obama, i am saying the type is a ' one '
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wintin is just vanilla tintin compiled to run on windows...
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: abelinc so i should install windows?
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you want to run windows
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: no i only like to stare at them and wash them
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: otherwise, run MUSHclient under wine if you're not already
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i'll stick with my --current os
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: my wine doesnt work well
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then work on that
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i can't... it has memory access issues and segfaults itself
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Wintin is what I needed when my roof blew off in the 'urricane.
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then fix the memory issues
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: abelinc its extremely hard to know what the exact issue is when dealing with an emulation thingy
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: remember, i'm not the geek
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a hardware thingy
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: then why is it only emulators like wine and qemu that have it
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: flightgear runs fine, mplayer runs fine, transcode runs fine
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: win is not an emulator!
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: s/win/wine
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: s/win/wine/
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because it's only when you're running them that you're using that much RAM
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: drtoki its an api re-addresser that is mis-cateogorized as an emulator thingy
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: abelinc i use a lot of ram when i run torrent things too
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: torrent things don't touch ram
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: those are disk i/o
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: really? i thought each torrent thread that i was seeding took up ram
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: inconsequential
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: what about transcode when i'm trimming down torrent avis into vcd 2.0?
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: doesnt that use ram?
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: compared to what we're talking about? no
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: okay.
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: what about when i run flightgear, that takes a lot of ram right?
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: abelinc just say yes so he will stop asking
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You pat VampireDude on his head.
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: ok got mudwalker, looks good, which url or host or port should i connect to?
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Are you connecting to Aardwolf? See 'help port'
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: help ip :-)
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: ok thanks
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Or help ip
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: same helpfile, ip is just shorter ;-)
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Well, actually it's not :P
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I oopsied :)
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you left off the "s"
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: help ip is the same as help ports
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: success i rock and am now using mudwalker!!
T1/r7/2009-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: thanks for help guys
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rithlin Tech: Whats a good client for mac?
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: mudwalker
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Is there a way we can get Lasher to code an autoreply for this?
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUSHclient :-)
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: is it in the help files?
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: tintin++
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: tintin for leopard
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: tintin for leopard and above
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rithlin Tech: Yea she has an old mac... no leopard
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: mudwalker works on tiger 
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: parallels, fusion, darwine, etc will all let you run MUSH on the Mac
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: most MacMacs won't do well with tintin or tinyfugue
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: tinyfugue is for 10.2
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rithlin Tech: yea its not tiger either
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: tinyfugue might work then
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rithlin Tech: nod I'll check thanks..
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tintin works in 10.2+ btw, doesn't need anywhere near leopard
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but both are command-line clients...
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: tintin is v 10.5 now
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rithlin Tech: ok she has 10.3.9
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it doesn't require 10.5...it's compatible with 10.5
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: tintin didnt work on mine with tiger, must just be mine! lol
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but again, unless she's geeky enough to be comfortable playing around in Terminal.app, I wouldn't recommend either tinyfugue or tintin
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: maybe its not the machine it was the person
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: peer marzian
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ageha peers intently at Marzian.
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: nah
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I just used the following on a G4 PowerMac running 10.4.11: http://tintin-mud-client.googlecode.com/files/tintin-1.99.6-osx.tar.gz
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it launched & gave me the #NO SESSION ACTIVE. message, so it at least launches
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Wait, tintin is on googlecode now?
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's where the link points when you're on the sourceforge download page
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Ah, I see.
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: http://tintin.sourceforge.net/download.php
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: it didnt work on mine...
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: recompile it yourself from source
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: too techy - i just started learning!
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: marzian, right-click the link, copy the address...put the address into the address bar & change the 7 to a 6 ;-)
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: that would work!
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: how do you stack commands in a client - is it , or ; to separate?
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on the client...many use ;
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: semicolon
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: depends on what you have set.  Usually ;
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: on mush it is semicolon
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: usually '
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: given that you could produce a semi colon i don't think thats it though
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: ok thanks
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: usually ';', might be '%;' or '\n' on some
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: on mine it screws up on all three apparently :)
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I set mine to the letter 's' once.  That was funny for a minute or two.
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: help file suggested ~; but that was a fail as well
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ~; is so that it doesn't count the ; as a ;
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: if its in an alias you can always just use new lines to stack commands
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: (in most clients that i know of)
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Or you can just double them with ;
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: i might try new lines
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, in mush, it won't listen to ; within alias commands if you do it normally
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you would either send to execute instead of send to world, or hit enter to send a second command...that's why the alias action window is tall
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Airy Tech: may i know how to send a carriage return every few seconds when idle on mushclient please?
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sca'th Naomii Tech: why every few seconds ?
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sca'th Naomii Tech: to keep alive ?
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Airy Tech: to prevent auto logoff?
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: just have it trigger off the TICK message
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Airy Tech: i see.. thanks
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sca'th Naomii Tech: you don't need one every few seconds ;o) you can make a trigger off of "Your eyes glaze over."
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: timers are better than triggers
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: timers won't be broken when the message changes...
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sca'th Naomii Tech: does that message change often ? 
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to make timers, go to game -> configure -> timers
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: more than 0 times is often enough ;-)
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: timers also consume less resources
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radikal Tech: How long before client kicks you off
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radikal Tech: Mud i mean
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: you have longer than 30 minutes for sure
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radikal Tech: So if you set a timer for every 30 minutes it should be fine?
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I send CR at 10 mins, it's 20-30
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i think so
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i go idle at end of night and always come back with a 0 quest timer when i log in the next day so
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: why is it important to stay logged in?
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: depends.  Some people stay on 24/7 to gather stats.  Others just like being on.
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: 24/7 to obtain stats or rank (?)
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, logging channels, being available for in-game pages, triggers to email in case a clan is being raided...lots of reasons people may want to
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: staying on 24/7 to gather information is a serious devotion to the game
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not really...doesn't cost anything
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Besides, how else would one track tp prices?
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: auc -h?
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: at any rate, for the initial question, go to game -> configure -> timers, click Add, choose interval...put Send ("") into the Send field, use the drop-down to select Send To Script. That will send an empty carriage return at the interval you specified
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: auc -h is EXTREMELY spammy...shows every bid
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: versus a grep on tpt sold to
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if the admin (Lasher) was obliging, a special file that recorded the last 200 tp sales accessed by "auction -tp (since) /Dmmdd /Thh:mm:ss"
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no reason for him to waste time coding that
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Clientside is easier for that.
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if he were to code that, then he'd be asked to track every price for the last XXX of some other item...then some other item
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: is there an easy clientside way to filter gets by level?
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: no reason for him to waste time coding create sound but he did anyway
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xyliz like some improvements to the info -h options
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure there's reason to, drtoki
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: one improved the game, the other wouldn't
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cookar, easy no
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: possible, depends on how many ways you want the get to work...
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Hey, why not code it clientside? If it becomes popular enough, there should be a stronger case for coding it in ... and there would already be something to work with :P
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: trigger 
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oops
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: anything that improves sorting options and/or statistics display _would_ improve the game
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: too bad that's not statistics display
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xyliz  'd like to track portal prices (at least until a set of portals was obtained at an inexpensive near minimum fair price)
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we already have the answer to it
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: but it is a sorting option
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: That's what scripting is for.  If you are monitoring auctions.
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no it isn't
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Improving is subjective, isn't it? Pretty much all the time.
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: How is it not?
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tracking tp token prices isn't a sorting option
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: Oh is that what this is about?
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: some may prefer to track Tir-via token prices
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: Then it would be statistical
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and tp token is just another object...there are 40k+ other objects to track if that's the goal...
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: no requirement to track crap
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: crap to one person isn't crap to everyone
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: who are you to say that what I want tracked isn't just as important?
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yup.
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: someone might want to see what the most valuable manor pie for some obscure reason.
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I already have the answer to what tokens go for
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: track only the important items -- Aard weapons, aard armor, hard-to-get portals
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: now for cookar's by-level thing, the issue is that the name that you see things listed in inventory/looking in bag, etc aren't the keywords for get
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: again, who defines important?
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Xyliz, obviously...
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you track one, then you track another...if you track the other, then you track yet another...
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's no line to be drawn
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: For those variable level portals, do you track them as the portal, or do you want the individual levels tracked to see what is worth more, and by how much?
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a horrible road to go down, and Lasher has more sense than that :-)
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: there is a line that does get drawn -- may require intelligence to perceive the line
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: Just tracking the prices on 60k thing isn't that hard of a problem, is that what you are talking about?
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, usher, it's a harder problem than you'd think, when disk i/o is already an issue with the amount of "stuff" the MUD is keeping track of, and the items you're tracking aren't easily defined
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: the point is that it is much easier to customize client side for what each individual person considers "important" than to have it on the mud.  If you aren't on all the time, using auc -h can catch you up a decent chunk of the way.
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: I agree, anyway you do it, no one would want it on the same server as the mud
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, except that's where the data resides
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xyliz 'd like the option of turning on the date prefix for certain auction/rauction/info events and some channels -- so that repeated (say) debate -h was not required 
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xyliz 'd like this option to track what was said on a channel during a topic:  (channel) -h (from) /dmm-dd /thh:mm:ss
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: That can be done easily client side too.  Actually, it can be more inclusive if you scroll off the normal channel history.
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, that'd be a nice addition
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: zmud already provides the command "#scroll  " which is able to collect channel information
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: although ti would be nifty
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Is there any way to overwrite %n capture variables in tintin++?
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: s/ti/it
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I want them to reset because they're not carrying over nicely... maybe I should just use normal vars.
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I do like how mush internally timestamps all lines so if you hover over them it says when they came through
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if there were a channel option, that sent the datetime stored channel output (as seen by other) instead of usual channel line, that be a great convenience
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: some of the channel conversations are entertaining even informative
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you just mean to have the channel look like its channel history even on first seeing it?
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: yes, when i store channel conversation to hdisk, i store the datetime version as seen by others
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what do you mean by as seen by others? others don't see datetime
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: i even use triggers to #subst "You" to "Xyliz" in some channels
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: storing a "You" to a file is not as informative as using the character name
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't know who you are?
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: ...it's for when he's mplaying...
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: when i play another lervel character to explore an unknown area safely, "You" is not informative when channel conversation is stored
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: i prefer to know which character said what
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Shouldn't you just finger yourself every time to make sure you know who you are...? :P
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: do not be assinine
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I would remember which char I'm on, personally.
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why keep the same logfile for both characters?
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: And you should drop an 's' in 'assinine'.
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i whoi myself all the time i find the qp info much quicker to find there
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: quicker than typing "ac"?
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radikal Tech: Or even just "a"
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: actually yeah
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radikal Tech: I use whoi more often as well
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: plants it right in the middle of my screen
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Cookar: how about checking ac?
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: ac is too compact my eyes arent drawn to what i want
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: i store parts of tech and answer channels by the date -- and separate files for different characters are not required if the character name is used
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Ah, just used to whois output, I see. Well, to each his own. :)
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why does it matter if xyliz says it or alt says it? you said it
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xyliz prefers to know which alt put which foot in which mouth
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: Confucious says: Honestly, who gives a damn?
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: and some of the alts exhibit vastly different personalities
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Is there a way to preserve the original colour codes off an #ACTION in tintin?
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I just wrote an auction trigger, but I want to see the objects in their original colour.
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limon Tech: is there anyone using tt++?
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fat Ass Cartman raises his hand.
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limon Tech: any scripts?
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: I've posted a couple on the tt++ forum, including a spellup script
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limon Tech: i'm looking now
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limon Tech: i just see spellup
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: I've got a minimap script there as well... if you need something specific and I have it, I"ll post it there or on pastebin for you
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limon Tech: where can i find zmud scripts?
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: Hi, I'm trying to stack commands in mudwalker (running on a mac) with no luck. I contacted the programmer who said I should use 'option-return'...shoud I type this between commands?? Help!!
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: anyone know how to mkae a selection on a list box set to the last selection you choose
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyreens Tech: Is anyone familiar with Whyte's Mapper?
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: how come the stuff in my soup is hotter then the juice? 
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: my thumb drive has a light in it, is it possible to turn it off ?
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: so long as it is I can search, just looking for a yes/no really
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lother Tech: Most likely no. The one i have i searched all over to try and turn it off. I just opened it up and took the lightbulb out. Now its held together by tape.
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: . o O (  ) Habasi goes, "Heh."
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: thanks, saves me time looking around :)
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lother nods at . o O (  ) Habasi.
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: Bah, I can't figure this out. I'm trying to set up mushclient to keep track of my potions. Mainly displaying the number I have left in the bottom left of the prompt.
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: Anyone know how I'd go about using real values and the addition, subtraction, there of when a trigger is hit?
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: hi
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: can anyone help me get my client to look like this: http://www.aardwolf.com/tmp/aardwolf-mud-2.jpg
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: did you try downloading the aardwolf mushclient?
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: i havent got windown
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: windown
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: ?
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: sorry, you lost me
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: The aardwolf MUSHclient works though wine.  You can run it on linux or a Mac.
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: down
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: you playing on a phone? :p
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: macro iss
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: hi sorry had d assigned to 'down' so couldnt type...
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: do you need win to use wine?
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: ...No.
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gundam Wing Tech: wine is a windows emulation program, so no
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: it is not an emulation program.
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: great i'll try that!
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: oh wait...its not?
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: WINE = Wine Is Not an Emulator.
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gundam Wing Tech: oops, you're right, sorry about that ;)
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: oh yeah!
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: and you can install w.i.n.e. on mac using unix file?
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: you can use darwine, or whatever it's called these days.
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: darwin - the terminal thingy?
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: or, you know...  http://wiki.winehq.org/MacOSX
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: thanks for link!
T1/r7/2009-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: could someone with the portal wish do 'eqdata' and send me the portal line please
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: anyone know why my macros would have stopped working midway through that double?  I have f1 mapped to c veng but it just does nothing all of a sudden? in the middle of a fight on mushclient no menu options changed as far as i know and it stopped working mid fight
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: is there some combination of alt and other stuff i could have pressed that might have done that?
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: Did all macros go down, or just that one?
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: my wrist accidentally was resting on alt in that fight
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: all macros down
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i think i must have hit alt something or ctrl something to do this but no idea what it might have been
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i have stupid fingers
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I would be more concerned if your fingers could think independently.
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Yours can't?
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: They may.  It would explain the typos.
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: And the random groping on the subways.
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: if it helps my aliases are still working and i got the wold file saved message even though i edited nothing so i must have accidentally toggled somehting
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: rebooting mush didn't help :(
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: the macros are still present in the configuration screen and i see no toggle in there
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: nobody has any idea what might be wrong?
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: I just tripled my fucking war kills
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: er .. mis
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: on tech, really?
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Wow, stupid green and cyan channels
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: Any Excel wizards here? I have received a sheet with 17000+ rows and I want to split the contents of one cell "name" on a space to "Firstname" and "Lastname"...
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Export to csv, open the file, regex to include a comma between the first and last names, add a column, then import back to Excel?
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: that's an idea... have to look in to it...
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: or just copy the row in question out, do the replace " " with "," and do paste special or something
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninpo Tech: hi, I just reinstalled windows/mushclient and now my prompt shows all my stats, state, etc. any help ?
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: type statmon to turn it off
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninpo Tech: ty
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: or downlaod the aardwolf mushclient or plugins so it is properly used
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: that info is used for the statgauges, etc
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: if they didn't lock booting from USB, you can boot from a USB drive with no risk to the system.
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: brainy worky.  Just because a message deals with computers, it does not by default go here.
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrazySk8er DaRicoDude Tech: but you must atleast have an os on a flashdrive
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Or an exernal CD-rom
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Anyone know a decent mobile IRC client?
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: i use putty and irssi
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: For mobile phones? 
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: yeah, mobile putty and ssh to my server and irssi from there... this way i have the smae settings as usual
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Thanks! il have a look just now
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: I just had an idea... but... I wanna know if I'm insane or if there is a way to actually do it.
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: theres a way to do just about anything
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: those two options are not mutually exclusive.
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: spill it
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Do tell?
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: In mushclient, you can use window, new window. Thus having two windows! Is it possible to have data in one window omited from the other and vise versa?
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: of-course
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: OOH! Goodie!
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: I'm thinking of setting up a window for inventory and junk.
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: aard's version does that by default
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: Was no aware.
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: not*
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: check the miniwindow part of the mush forum, there's an inventory script tehre, pre made
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: That will save me some trouble coding aliases, triggers, and the like. XD
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: I spent a good chunk of my morning syphering statmon after someone mentioned it. XD
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: Riasiru: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvceEH3L4co
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: then: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=9580
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: I'm on dial up... youtube is suicide!
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: I watch youtube via my phone
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sirene Tech: Me too.  I have an app for it.
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: Ehhh, lucky...
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: ah... it's just a small video that Nick's made, that shows what you can do with miniwindows... nice screenshots in that tread
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: My mobile browser does it automatically, theres not many app's for my phone
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: OOOH
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: i have a tricky q
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: Dear god... I feel so simple now...
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Its the round button on the front of the PC
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Im building up a second pc right, and i installed windows on its HD on my other pc. When i put the HD in the one im building up? it gives me the BSOD, but it works fine in the other pc
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Er thrall, you can't just move a hard drive like that..
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Need to install on the new pc, with appropriate drivers..
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: because it's set up to run on the other computer, got no drivers for the new etc...
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: The motherboard/cpu/video etc are different.
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: you could try fail-safe... but i don't think that'd work either
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: So i need to format and re install?
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Its odd, im pretty sure iv switched HD's around before?
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: that's the fast way to deal with it, yes.
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: That is generally the next step in building a pc once the hardwares together, format the hd, and install an os =p
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: you can switch hard drives as long as they aren't system drives
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Well... i did, im guessing just in the wrong box :P
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Ah.... well then.
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Then you're doing it wrong.
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You assemble, THEN install.
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Thanks!
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: By that logic, you'd study, then give your brain to someone else... Doesn't do them much good =p
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Another q, could anyone suggest a good rpm for a tesla generator?
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: OVER 9000 RPM.
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Thraal looks for a screwdriver to fix my screw up
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: that depends on the generator...
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I believe tesla generators use .deb packages.
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Dal, i was thinking of going for around 24000rpm
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: don't use a petrol generator
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn runs away in utter terror!
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: I'm getting a smidge confused... I've never done anything with plugins and the random xml files. Uhhh.
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lacrimosa rolls on the floor laughing at Blessed Balaam's antics!
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: ha Redryn, thats what you think... im building a hybrid of sorts
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Cheerio, thanks for the help!
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Could anyone suggest a decent DOTA AI map?
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: or a good TD, single player. At work and i wanna kill some time
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you're on aard.
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Indeed, but i have to dial in via my phone to be able to play. And then i cant recieve calls or sms's
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you can check getdota.com, there's a link on ai maps iirc
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Ty
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: Ok, I'm trying to pick up Lua so I can write scripts and junk... But I don't get something and I'm getting odd impressions about it.
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krion Tech: What's the question?
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: Do all scripts you use go to one Lua document for the Mud you're on?
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: No. They are placed into individual "plugins"
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: OH! That makes more sense.
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krion Tech: Yes, Riasiru, if you are using MUSHclient. A script file can call another file, however.
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I think you can also do scripts on a per world basis
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: the script location is under "world configuration" but I've not tried it. Plugins are also possible
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: I couldn't understand the miniwindow stuff at all, so I'm trying to pick lua up at least to the point I can understand that.
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: Or at least enough to install them...
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: there's an installer there, just copy the complete zip with all the parts, and then turn on the installer and it'll load the rest
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: Ok, apparently I didn't have mushclient ver 4.4
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: anyone use tintin?
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: I installed the newer version, got the XP bar working, and the consider info, too... the other plugins like to give error messages.
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: Line   32: Error parsing script (problem in this file)
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: Marzian, on and off yes
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riasiru Tech: When I tried using the HP bar.
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: chosig, do you use automap?
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: chosig,afk
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: chosig,not afk just really bad at shortcuts!
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: here, but i'm at work so...
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: its cool - i'll google it!
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: Marzian never used the automapper, so i'm not much use there
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: tintin automap prob - if you cant go east as theres a wall, typing 'e' will create a new room in tintin map!!
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: #alias {alas, you cannot go that way} {#map del}
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: err... #act rather
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: aha thats what i was looking for
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: thanks!
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chicomecoatl goes: "No Problem!"
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: if i want to make a trigger in Cmud for questing where a noise will be made how do i import the file to get it to play?
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: use #beep for a system beep
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: otherwise read the helpfile for #play (iirc)
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: zScript or lua
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: thank you
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: would someone send me a tell plz. want to try a trigger
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: I managed to run macports/wine/mushclient - great success!
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big angel Hrutwang Tech: Does anybody know if zMUD works under Vista/Windows 7 x84 or I have to get cMUD instead?
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sirene Tech: I'm using zmud ok
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sirene Tech: And I'm using vista
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tenlorn goes, "OK".
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big angel Hrutwang Tech: if it works under vista, it could work in 7 too
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Anyone here with a iPod Touch or a iPhone?
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: PEBCAK Xantcha raises his hand.
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: i have ipod touch
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i don't feel the need to splash out $500 on the latest mobile phone
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Any off you use Remote Play?
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: good thing the iphone is 99 bucks then ;-)
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it's not 99 bucks and you know it
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: umm, yes it is, and I know it
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: You are just too poor to get one xP
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: my BB was even cheaper :)
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: retail price, 99 straight from the apple store
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if it's 99 bucks then it's not 99 bucks, it's 99 bucks + a contract
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: although it has some things I dislike
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Xantcha, you use remote play?
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noro Tech: He has used it, doesn't use it regularly. 
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: How would you know? :P
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noro Tech: Because I'm his wife?
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: 399 gbp
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Ah
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Ok, can he assist me in something?
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noro Tech: send him a tell. 
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: 210gbp for the cheapie 8gb one
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: I can't tell him
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noro Tech: Hmm. He's on the phone atm, just give him a second. :) 
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: tell him to get off it, he'll break it because he's heavy
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lexapro Tech: hello?
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lexapro Tech: i use mushclient can someone help me with binds?
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what about them?
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lexapro Tech: i want to use aszx for west north south east
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lexapro Tech: press a button without using enter
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you want to use them without hitting enter afterward, you can't use regular macro bind
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: look up accelerator functions
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lexapro Tech: is it difficult ?
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but note that then you can't type "ans hi there"
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because "a" will already have moved you
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lexapro Tech: so i would need ...
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can't use "account" to see how much gold you have in the bank, etc
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lexapro Tech: i cant use the arrows on my laptop
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in general, it's better to use ctrl-aszx or similar
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure you can
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lexapro Tech: i have that alt aszx
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can even use the numpad to move around on your laptop
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lexapro Tech: no numpad... just arrows
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and before you say it doesn't have one...yes it does...look at the blue lettering on the keyboard :P
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lexapro Tech: so control f8? 
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lexapro Tech: no,..
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lexapro Tech: not even alt 8
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: anyhow, to see how to use non-fkeys (non-alt keys) without pressing enter after them, go to help ->index, click the find tab, type accelerat & hit find
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: are there any $99 laptops yet -- somebody was attempting to bring inexpensive laptops to the world  (and bring competiotion to the laptop oligarchy)
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you may be thinking of olpc
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Anyone who uses Remote and a Iphone with the lastest software, and has it working, pleas contact me.
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: did apple or another companay come out with a portable keyboard-dock for the iphone to pander those that want a larger keypad while using the iphone
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: It's a remote ON the iphone
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Something different
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: a handbag with portable keyboard dock (with an imbedded small hard drive or flash-drive) is perhaps the next stage for iphone accoutrements
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lexapro Tech: xyliz do you know about viliv
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: nope,  archaic here -- but i did read a lot of sci-fi
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: does anyone know why my mushclient window keeps 'slipping' down the screen when i switch between input and map windows? running on w.i.n.e.
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: If you have a touch or Iphone, say yes plx :P
T1/r7/2009-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guguk Tech: anyone knows any good client for mac?
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: aackk after remorting the bigmap thing is happening again what was the mud command to toggle the auto bigmap action?
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: Hmm... mushclient has started to complain that it can't find "ldplugin" - what kind of plugin/module is that? I can't find it anywhere...
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: can't find it on the site either.
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: start disabling plugins one by one until you stop getting the errors?
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: yeah, doing that
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: agghhh i think remorting toggled this auto bigmap setting but i cannot remember the mudside command to retoggle it
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i figured once i did it once i would never need it agian :(
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: tags bigmap off
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: thanks i'm putting that in a notepad for the future
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: whenever you get weird tags, just look at the "tags" command.  It lists them all there.  I think statmon is the main one that is not listed.
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: nod its not showing up as tags just refreshing the big map automatically at very inconveneitn times (which takes focus away from main window)
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: but same difference, that fixes the issue
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: Every OEM version I've purchased (3) came with DVDs
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: For Win7, I'm getting at least 1 copy free from Microsoft :)
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waz Tech: where can i find the mush client for this game?
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/play/index.htm
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thayaric Tech: download mush from aard site. install it. then go to the authors site and download the latest version and install it over the top of the version you previously installed
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baroqen Tech: my client suddenly stops displaying mini map and score etc on a seperate window, anyone knows how to turn it back on? i am using aard mushclient
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: have you tried turning it off and on again
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: are you sure it's plugged in?
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baroqen Tech: meaning closing the entire client and restarting it?
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I was actually being serious -- restart the client is a good solution, unless it happenes repeatedly
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baroqen Tech: i don't know, it used to work fine
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baroqen Tech: ok i'll try that brb
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baroqen Tech: the client is going nuts.. it is showing tags now too, and even if i turn it off, i restart the client its back on again.. reinstall?
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: it turns on tags to work the windows, just make sure the plugins are turned on
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baroqen Tech: how do i turn the plugins on?
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: with the main aard window frontmost, go to file -> plugins
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: double-check the enabled state for them
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baroqen Tech: its showing this in the main window {stats}319/196,86/69,137/70,221/172,127/99,170/103,57,12,26,233,489,You are Standing.,9999,3979/6929,597/4778,953/3602,4008594,5920,7,2500,1045,200,5 -- this is when i toggle with the command 'tags on'. plugins are enabled, but the windows are still no showing anything
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baroqen Tech: any idea?
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrazySk8er DaRicoDude Tech: type, statmon
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: statmon ?
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, don't type statmon
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's trying to get statmon to be used by the stats detector plugin, he's not just trying to get rid of the text
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in file -> plugins, highlight xStats_Detector and say reinstall
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baroqen Tech: it says Warning: Triggers not enabled
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: how is it going to shoot anyone?
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, then go to game -> configure -> triggers and hit the checkbox
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baroqen Tech: you are god abelinc
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: once you hit the checkbox, everything should be good
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baroqen Tech: did u write this client lol
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baroqen Tech: yep its working now :)
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: No, ihe just uses common sense ;)
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, gammon wrote the client and most of the plugins
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baroqen Tech: yeah and well most of the time he's the one giving the helpful answers
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: How do you escape { in tt commands?
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: \
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: \ is the escape character for tintin.
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Depending on what you are writing, { rarely needs to be escaped.
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: It seems to complain when I don't match { but do the right thing anyway
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: what are you trying to do and what are you using?
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: to prevent errors, when pasting a action or alias to a channel put \ before the entire command, the entire line will pass without parsing
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: I'm gagging tags, and I started off with just ^{%1, at which it complained of an unmatched bracket. I didn't think it would do that if it saw the bracket as a literal
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: aardwolf.chicomecoatl.angelfire.com/blog/ I have already written a script to capture statmon and gag them.
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: well thats downright convienent, thank you
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: You're welcome.
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: is there a way too dim the colors on Cmud
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: turn off your monitor.
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: There are colour settings somewhere in the config menus.
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Furen falls down laughing.
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: that's a good one balaam
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Not really, but every question on this channel must be met with at least one asinine comment.  It's the law.
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: i know :P
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: k well i will work in color setting.
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: i've set my prompt up how i like it but today its giving me a reading of stuff starting with {stats}?? whys that? 
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: statmon
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: you using a different client from usual 
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to stop just that, type statmon...to stop both that and things like {chan ch=tech}, type tags off
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: ?
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you probably tried out MUSHclient from the aard website, and you're not using that now
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: . o O (  ) Habasi seems to think you have the right idea.
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: or something along those lines
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: yeah that got it thanks!
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUSHclient is set up already to use stuff that the MUD sends intended for only scripts to see...those scripts hide it from your human eyes...now that you're not using scripts set up for them, they're visible
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are scripts available for other clients to use (and gag) those tags as well
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: evil mushclient! plus it wiped all my triggers!
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mushclient wouldn't wipe your triggers from another program
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it wouldn't even know where to find them
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: no it let me enter about 12 then wiped em!!
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: grrr
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lemme guess...you're on Vista?
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: mac os
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Mac OS is like Vista...  they both have that finder thing.
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, so on parallels or one of the wines...hmm iirc the guy that wrote MUSHclient had been using that configuration for a while
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Blessed Balaam looks around and whistles innocently.
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You boggle at Blessed Balaam.
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: They both have the letter 'a' in them too.  Quite alike.
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: to be fair, linux stole the the i-n pair from Windows.
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien rolls his eyes, disgusted.
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: It just reversed what was in Unix.
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or it just used the creator's name :P
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: sounds like someone sold you a bad bot
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: . o O (  ) Habasi runs away in utter terror!
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: anyway thanks guys!
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: I have a wireless router piggybacked onto my non-wireless router. Through the wireless network, I can connect to the net, and remotely control all 3 of my computers attached to the network. However, when i go into look at the shared drives, the wireless comp can't connect. Any ideas why?
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: Is it possible that the wireless one is still set up as a gateway?
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: so disable dhcp?
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: uh, depends on the hardware. IIRC, some routers don't play nice with others
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: linksys wrt54g 
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: when I had this problem, I just made one on 192.168.1.1 and the other on 192.168.0.1
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: thats what they are
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: are you trying to resolve by IP or name?
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i'm looking at my network trying to see shared computers/drives
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: resolving my ip address for vnc works just fine
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: are you using windows search thing, or are you punching in the IP address for the hosting computer manually?
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i'm opening my network places and clicking on the drives that are shared
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: and it just times out?
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: says unavailable
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: on my wired comp, which is hooked up through the non-wireless it can see verything just fine
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: I'm assuming the computers with the shared folders are on the non-wireless router too?
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: correct. 
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: which the whole reason for this is the linksys doesn't like my server for some reason. the linksys has to be rebooted daily and it's annoying 
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: it sounds like the wirless router might have a build in firewall thats 'helping' too much?
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: thats pure speculation though, i'm out of guesses
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: did the Linksys come with a manual
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: maybe they both have same ip ?
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: you can get one online at linksys.com
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: no, my brother gave it to me.
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: disabled the built in firewall, nothing
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: maybe the Linksys was defective version from the gray market
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: if i plug in the computer into the linksys, i can look at the shared drives
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: it's when they're not plugged directly in that it doesn't work
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: im running out of ideas.... it doesn't make sense
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: well, lemme ask this. since the dlink is already online, what should i have the internet connection type set to, and should i go from dlink- port 4 to linksys-wan, or just a generic linksys port
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xeleth Tech: fair enough.
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: 4.40
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xeleth Tech: oh hrm!
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: thats the one i have at least
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xeleth Tech: brb!
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: not from aardowlf.com...check the actual mush website...looks like i am in need of an upgrade too
T1/r7/2009-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xeleth Tech: ahhh
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xeleth Tech: hrm
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xeleth Tech: so I'm talking about the script here: http://www.gammon.com.au/files/mushclient/Aardwolf/Aardwolf_SpellupLUA.xml  which has a file date of 2006...
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xeleth Tech: and gives me some errors when I try to run it.
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xeleth Tech: ahhh: requires="3.65"
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, don't use that one...use gammon's, or bast's modified version of gammon's...
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xeleth Tech: link?
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=8780 and http://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/Aardwolf_Spellups
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xeleth Tech: thanks. do you recommend one over the other?
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: read the page of the first, it explains a lot more how to use and how to install...then install the version from the second link
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xeleth Tech: ok
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: ok, since the network places doesn't work.. how do i connect to my other computers via ip address to view shared files?
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: SSH into it
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: not familiar with that term
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: He's referring to windows computers...  nothing that useful.
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: you can specify the IP address in network places.
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: how?
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: stapleface, start -> run, type \\192.168.x.x\NameOfShare
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i've never had to do it this way so it's all new to me
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: sweet. thanks abel
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's the "UNC" path to the share
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i don't get it tho.. i can connect that way but for some reason network places is retarded
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: do the computers have the same workgroup name?
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: yup. all on mshome
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xeleth Tech: thanks for the help with the spellup script. works like a champ.
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatale Elliden Tech: what is the most popular/stable format for burning videos onto vcds?
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Aren't vcds mpeg2 by design...?
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatale Elliden Tech: I made a movie using iMovie and I want to burn it to a disc
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatale Elliden Tech: currently its saved in .m4v
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: DVD would be your easiest choice, i assume. Though I don't know anything about imovie
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatale Elliden Tech: I want to burn so that it runs like a normal VCD/DVD
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatale Elliden Tech: Instead of using it as a normal data disc
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: can you find a mpeg video encoder?
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i had a problem with some itunes files and used this encoder to change from m4a to mp3
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatale Elliden Tech: I can
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninpo Tech: odd thing happens. I'm still connected, all of my commands go through, but mushclient(4.34) doesn't display anything
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninpo Tech: I know the commands go through cause when I reconnect all the commands(like spellups) happened/happens
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Did you "pause" the connection on accident?
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninpo Tech: how do you do that ? maybe I do(and its not my connection as I get a constant ping to google)
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Different commands for different clients... sometimes it's the "pause/break" key you hit on accident, sometimes something else
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Try looking through MUSH's documentation
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninpo Tech: will do. thx
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: ctrl-space will pause output.  ctrl-shift-k will disconnect.
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: ctrl+space in mush pauses output
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninpo Tech: will check if the 'pause' bar toggles when it happens again. thx
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: anyone know how to work with triggers in mushclient?
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: like when i receive.. 'You feel yourself moving slower', i want to add 'haste' to something. (i dont know what)
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thayaric Tech: for that use a spellup plugin
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: where do i get one of those
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thayaric Tech: http://code.google.com/p/bastmush/
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: much thanks
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thayaric Tech: some good plugins there. seem a little buggy, but in general work ok
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thayaric Tech: u will need the latest version of mush for those plugins. if you dont have that then first go to mushclients site and get the latest version. install it over the top of your current version to keep settings you already have
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: i got this client 2 days ago
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: i think its prolly the latest
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thayaric Tech: if u got it from mush site, yes possibly. if from aard site, its old
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thayaric Tech: latest is 4.43
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: 4.40.. doh
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: i'll get the latest now :)
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: the one in the sight you gave me, is it the latest?
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thayaric Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=9659
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: can anyone find me some free usb memory stick driver software for DOS?
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: (that isn't DUSE, as it doesn't actually work)
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: what, don't tell me you guys don't use DOS anymore...
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: bah, the panasonic usb host driver doesn't detect the usb ports on this intel laptop
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thayaric Tech: what operating system?
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: dos
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thayaric Tech: lol true dos?
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: dos 7.2, really, win98 boot disk
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thayaric Tech: dos is a 16 bit os. usb is firmly 32 bit technology. there may well be no dos driver
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thayaric Tech: why are you using dos?
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: old laptop with no cd drive, need to get a flash drive working long enough to squirt the windows install files onto the hdd for installation
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: method worked fine on a bunch of other systems, just not this one
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninpo Tech: i guess you can't boot from the usb ?
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thayaric Tech: easiest option is to buy a cheap caddy for laptop drives, remove the drive, fit in caddy, attach caddy to a proper machine and copy across the windows cd
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninpo Tech: and you can also format your flash disk to fat16(bit)
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: can't boot direct from usb, no, you're right
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: that's -a- solution, thayaric, but then not repeatable if i give it to someone
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: just trying a flash upgrade atm to see if that gives me usb bootability
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: in a word, that didn't help :-)
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i wonder why the panasonic river doesn't pick up the host controller
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: driver, not river
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: my ipod won't eject...every time i try to eject it it says that it contains files that are in use
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrazySk8er DaRicoDude Tech: uhh,i think my ipod nano battery is broke
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BarkRawrMeow Tech: I'm trying to make a fork bomb in C++ can anyone help me? =]
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: why c++ and not c?
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BarkRawrMeow Tech: because I dont know c =[
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: -l 10
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: you know c++ though?
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BarkRawrMeow Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: in excel 2007, how can I keep it from inserting data values and formatting the new row I insert into a table?
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: bark: look in c's stdlib.h. There is a fork() function. Call that and it forks a process. Call that in a loop and you got a fork bomb. By careful with that
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BarkRawrMeow Tech: ok
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: if you want to use c++ instead, do the same thing, but put it in a class :-D
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: how do i turn the bigmap off in mushClient. don't want it to keep jumping forward
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: disable it in the plugins menu
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thayaric Tech: bigmap auto or bigmap auto off one of those
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: thank you mucho
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thayaric Tech: oh and on a standards conforming c or c++ compiler there is no fork in stdlib.h its supposed to live in unistd.h
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BarkRawrMeow Tech: I was trying to use fork() and C but failed =[. Before I tried fork() I was using ShellExecute to make new tabs in Internet Explorer. What I can't figure out is how to make the program wait until Internet Explorer is running then make new tabs.
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thayaric Tech: how much exp. u got with windows api and c/c++?
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BarkRawrMeow Tech: not much
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thayaric Tech: seriously this aint beginner stuff, tho might be a lot easier in vb or something that does more of the work for you.
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BarkRawrMeow Tech: what would you say if i had alot of exp. with windows api and c/c++ =]
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thayaric Tech: look into EnumProcesses, OpenProcess and associated functions, learn about threading and interprocess communication
T1/r7/2009-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: anyone use tt++'s map featuer?
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: why does the new msn think it has to close EVERY FRICKIN PROCESS on my machine in order to install?
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: I mean, does it really need to be able to write to cMud?
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's a windows live installer
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: microsoft is paranoid that you are using a code snooper
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: not that that kind of thing would stop anyone who actually was
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: why would you even install the live messenger?
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: because in a perfect world, noone who ever uses Microsoft would ever use a program written by anyone else, and they don't write standalone programs because that would allow users to choose non-M$ programs? :p
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: so i can sign into 4 comuters at once?
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no idea what that was supposed to mean
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: why would you want to sign into 4 at once on the same account?
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i let a jabber server take care of my msn contacts and don't bother with that junk myself
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: gossip -h 3
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: nothing interesting there
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: people have gossip on?
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: not I, but you can still view the history
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninpo Tech: don't know if I'm asking alot here, but: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=5866 I have the same problem and can't find a solution, what happens is:
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninpo Tech: if I enter commands frequently I always get a constant response, but if I idle for a while then I get a huge delay(forcing me to connect and reconnect)
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: whats the roundtrip ping time like?
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: nvm that, jsut read above
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninpo Tech: I get a constant 300ping to aardmud even through these happenings
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: are you on windows?
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninpo Tech: I've only read of people writing keepalive scripts that sends a blank msg to the server every 3 or so seconds
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: keep a constant ping session open while you are on the mud
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninpo Tech: i'm on linux, virtualboxed with windows. but my brother is on windows and also gets the same problem
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: good, i forget the command switch on windows for continous ping. If the mud logs you off, and you see a huge gap in the ping, you have something serverside
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninpo Tech: 'ping x -t'. will see if that works
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: I'd try doing similiar things that get you kicked off on mush in a normal telnet client.
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninpo Tech: good idea. probably not mushclient as there would have been more people complaining about it
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninpo Tech: thx
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: the last thing to do is fuck around with your router/firewall. Its possible its blocking keep alive messages one way in or out? 
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: Oops, sorry for language. I thought tech was approved for it
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninpo Tech: will check for that aswell. just read something about NAT routers dropping idle connections/ports
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: with so many staying online 24/7, perhaps the isp are idling inactive users, so that a lag of a few seconds happens when a user inputs something fresh
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninpo Tech: sounds possible. gonna keep a constant ping open as usher suggested. only 1mb every 10hours seems fine for a "quick fix"
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: I don't think the ping will keep the telnet connection open, it will just tell you if your network as a whole starts sucking
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the lag only happens if idle several minutes
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: does it show up in your pings?
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninpo Tech: sofar none. 0% loss, but if I don't idle then it won't happen
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninpo Tech: if the server doesn't get a request from me then it won't happen*
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: I looked it up, apparently default telnet keepalives are about 600 seconds after no contact. If your router is blocking that, then your computer isn't responding, and your being cut
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: i do not use pings, i type in a command, and note whether the mud takes several seconds to respond -- as though the lag was mudside
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: http://www.dslreports.com/faq/7792
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninpo Tech: awesome thx. will check around on my router for that then
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninpo Tech: just happened again. client side lag(about 8-10secs) with constant ping
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninpo Tech: will check that faq and my router. thx
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: does anyone know how to execute a variable's content in mushclient?
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: like when i receive 'The aura around your body fades', i add indestructible aura to a variable
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: umm...  you mean run code that is stored as a string?
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: yeah thats what i meant :D
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: what language?  Lua?
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: the default is lua i think
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: and that's not what you said from the description...
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: but i dont know lua..
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: i used to know how to do these stuff in zmud, but that was years ago
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I would suggest looking at the MUSHclient forums under "getting started".  There are several tutorialls there.
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: will do. thanks :)
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: anyone got time for a quick networking question?
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: networking? Always.
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: sure
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: when i want to access a mapped drive across a network, it asks for username and passsword
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: it's your login and password on that machine
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: anyway i can get it to save that info so i don't have to double click and type it in each bootup 
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Usher nods at Lacrimosa.
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: on windows?
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nogs, i'm on a vista business box
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: Thats one of those things that I'm sure is possible, but I have no idea how to do it. It might involve registerig the user on the remote machine as a user on the host machine and assign appropriate permissions
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: don't spose anyone has a norton ghost boot floppy image?
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so that we're not performing piracy which we don't condone here...have you tried bart?
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lacrimosa refuses to use Norton of any sort.
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i can't extract the files i need from bart, for some reason
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, symantec may suck, but ghost is nice
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, ghost explorer may have a downloadable version, as it's just a browser
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i don't actually want the ghost.exe file, i want the iomega usb host drivers that come as part of it
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we've switched over to using flash drives instead of floppies for imaging, and hadn't ever used ghost's floppy builder, always used bart for the floppy itself, & just had ghost.exe on it
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: also we'd always used the network for the ghost process, never usb-attached storage...if you have a laptop or other computer available (in addition to the one you're trying to image), you should be able to do the imaging by putting the image file on that...we use either IT laptops connected directly (GigE) or an NAS onsite
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: well i need to get the windows 2000 install files on this ancient laptop in a method that the client can reproduce themselves without having to take the hard drive out
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: which is why i want the iomega usb dos drivers from the ghost bit on hirens bootcd
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: bah, and bootdisk.com are now illegally selling dos drivers that they don't own
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: that's worse than piracy!
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: yeah, gotta agree with you there.
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: cmon guys, help me look here
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ScarletWitch Tech: anyone play aard on an iphone?
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: i do
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ScarletWitch Tech: what client do you use?
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ScarletWitch Tech: how do you connect
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: i think its called telnet lite..one of the free telnet apps in app store
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: raw telnet, i just use it for questing at work..dont even attempt anything else
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ScarletWitch Tech: nods
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: same with me on my blackberry, but I use MidpSSH
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ScarletWitch Tech: that midpssh tho prolly doesnt work on the iphone tho right
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: not sure, gimme a sec. I think it works on anything that can run java apps.
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: just go appstore and search for telnet
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ScarletWitch Tech: nods doing that now
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: does the aardmush have note capture ?
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: not seeing iphone listed as supported on a quick browse-through, but you never know.
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nailed it
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Livonya Tech: can anyone recommend a spellup script for ZMud?
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: forgotten how insanely slow xcopy is
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ScarletWitch Tech: is there a way to get the mccp bonus on telnet?
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: you can download a proxy that you connect to and it connects to mud
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: not that I know of, no.. :(
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: mccp proxy thing
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ScarletWitch Tech: can i use that with iphone>
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure SW
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's just a telnet redirect
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rau Tech: sure, you'd install the proxy on your pc, open your router, and point iphone at your pc
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: better to use something like tt++ or tinyfugue though
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: ssh into your computer and then use tt++
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since then you'll have actual client abilities, instead of just telnet
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: but you won't be able to really quest, typing takes so long on the iphone
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ScarletWitch Tech: k so if i was not able to point it at a pc tho, i can't do it
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: and the text would just fly by
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure you can quest, you don't have to type everything out
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: SW, use a free unix shell account
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ScarletWitch Tech: is serFish one of those?
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I have tf set up on a freeshell account in case anything happens at home
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ScarletWitch Tech: hmm maybe i  can get you to help me with that :)
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: looking at serfish to see what services it offers
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, serfish has something that is kind of like aard's web client...you go to a serfish web page, tell it what address you want to telnet/ssh into and it opens up the connection inside a web page
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it doesn't offer any console access of its own
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: This aardmushclient keeps trying to do a "World file save." but also has a dialog box that says it failed to do so
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're on vista
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: how can I just ask it not to try saving this World file at all?
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: run as administrator
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: I have to reason to save my world
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: so I'd just like to make it stop trying
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your world means variables & such as well
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: full state files
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: I don't think I use any of those either.. not using any scripts, etc.
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're using scripts just by using the aardmush...that's the whole difference between the aard one and just mush...it comes with aard scripts pre-installed
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: I've never had this situation the previous times I've run the same client, etc.
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: so what would be different?
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: even used the client this morning, with no such incident
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it should be pretty much an all or nothing thing, unless you're logging into the computer differently
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: since the client stopped cooperating.. back to raw telnet :P
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: wow.. lots of Trigger function "channel_redirect" not found or had a previous error. messages
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: close mush and restart
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: restarted the mushclient and got a lot of messges about can't open world file...
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: starting up Mushclient... tells me the .mcl files have invalid paths in them... quick glance, I don't see any paths at all
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: okay.. now the mushclient is completely kaput.. even trying to run as Adminstrator, it says the paths are wrong
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: I even tried going back to the Installer
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: wish i coul dhelp :(
T1/r7/2009-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: For you Star Wars geeks: http://www.instructables.com/id/Building-a-Lightsaber/
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexivan Tech: how do you enable bigmap on mushclient
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: bigmap auto on
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: .. i think. It's been a while.
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: quick mush script question, how do i accept a variable in a command, i.e. "get <variable> pack"
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bigmap auto on will have it pop up in your face pretty often...to just enable it, it is by default
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: usually you'll want it set to bigmap auto off
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexivan Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: @variablename
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: chico hrm i tried that
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Click the checkbox for variables
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: doh
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: thanks got it now
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 3 reasons it may not be showing bigmap...(1)file -> plugins, make sure that the plugin is enabled...(2)game -> configure -> triggers, make sure trigs are enabled in the checkbox there...(3)tags on, and type tags, make sure that the tags for maps are on
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chicomecoatl nods at you in agreement. 
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: why is it that -all- keygens are infected with viruses?
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: because it's an easy way to infect...
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: usually those that download shit like that doesn't have a clue...
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: s/download/are infected via/
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knight Taelon Tech: they aren't, their signatures are just similar to trojans
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knight Taelon Tech: false positives
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: noooononono, they very commonly -are- infected
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: Keygens aren't the kind of thing that should get tagged falsely
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yet, they usually are.
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knight Taelon Tech: yes they are
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Not to say that there arent a lot of keygens w/ trojans
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: Keygens are usually just thinly vieled wrappers over some proprietary hash algorithm. If its coming up as malware, I'd be weary
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakkalan Darkhawk Tech: has anyonelse had problems with wireless connection slowing to a halt then 2 weeks later offering an upgrade?
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: anyone got a working keycode for pinnacle studio 10+?
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakkalan Darkhawk Tech: since sep 8th I went from over 1mps to all of a sudden .31 dl speed which is below dial up, that ISP issue, or a piggyback
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakkalan Darkhawk Tech: I have broadband wireless
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakkalan Darkhawk Tech: ISP wants a direct connection, which gave they still have no clue
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: perhaps the upload at source is slow
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakkalan Darkhawk Tech: maybe. I checked all options, and had double checked with iyogi support
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakkalan Darkhawk Tech: has to be on isp side
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if others at that isp experiencing the same decrease, perhaps the isp is going under
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakkalan Darkhawk Tech: or a piggyback which for some reson ppl don't want to talk about
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakkalan Darkhawk Tech: yes my landlady as well did speedtest.net and she got .31
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakkalan Darkhawk Tech: find for surfing but I can't watch Netflix Instant viewing :-( requires ,7
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: is the websurfing fast
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: conspiracy theory: if speedtest.net is a small flybynight -- sign up lots of suckers then reduce the service (which wss purchased by the isp from other larger isp) -- the longer the suckers take to switch, the more profit -- even more profit if the suckers are locked into a contract
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: CPU type and speed not showing in System Properties in XP. Who'd like to take this one?
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Is it possible you're using a computer, and not say a yak
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I understand that has compatability issues with system properties
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: daloran?
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volans Tech: download http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: your mom
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volans Tech: it is a great program that will list all your specs
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Oh, I don't think my moms compatible with system properties either
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: don't need it listed, i need it to show where it's supposed to, volans
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volans Tech: hrmm
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: in mushclient, i know there's a way to send test input, for like testing a trigger, i forgot how though, anyone?
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: farkyss brings you far more varied and interesting problems than "mushclient doesn't do x y z"
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: it does do it though
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i don't remember how
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: ah ha, duh it's Game->Test Trigger
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Don't suppose anyone has some spare google wave invites?
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}#/bin/bash Isildur Tech: any great mud client?
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}#/bin/bash Isildur Tech: for linux
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: tintin++
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I like (and use) tintin++, but some would recommend tf :)
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on how geeky you are
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: I personally like Tintin.
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're using x11 most of the time, I'd say mushclient
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: otherwise tt++ or tinyfugue
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: only the naked Philistines in darkest New Guinea still use tf
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tinyfugue has more Aard scripts available, but cartman has started posting tt++ ones
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: i also have several tt ones on my website.
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tf never goes out of style :-)
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir bonks Semper Flat on the head for being such an UTTER moron.
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: tf is the best client for scripting afaik
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: too bad aboot the learning curve
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: But why, when tintin++ supports various scripting languages as well as its own?
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: python, perl?
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: The #run command give tt the versatility to use just about any language you please.
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nice feature
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as does tf...
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Nah, there's #script. Even ruby, apparently, is friends with tt :)
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: many (most?) modern clients have their roots in tintin... so if you're used to doing an alias or trigger in zmud, then tintin will be totally familiar to you
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: one client, not many or most
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: so, where can I find some of the tintin++ aard scripts?
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: My website, tintin forum etc.
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger chicomecoatl, and look on the tintin++ forums
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i have tf and tt on my shell. rarely use it, but then it's tf
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're used to zmud, then tintin++ will not be acceptable to you ;-)
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and neither would tf
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir nods at you in agreement. 
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm use zmud, but i still like tf more
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Nod, if you are used to mush, cmud, or zmud tt or ft feel like a step backwards until you get used to it.
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: tf*
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you have to acknowledge that you're a geek to be satisfied with either of them...people who spend most of their time in gui and not in a shell, but wanted to be chic and try linux, would do better running mushclient under wine
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: I don't run Linux.
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that was the original premise of this thread...
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: mushclient is so close to working well under wine, but it's not quite there in my hands
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: cli apps can be way better than the ones with gui
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: But wasn't at the point when i came in. I just came in on the tt portion of this thread.
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mush works perfectly under wine, once you turn off the help plugin
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: the stats bar doesn't work properly and it crashes periodicall
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the help plugin is as annoying as the healcare debate
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Abelinc, linux and chic didn't really go together until recently, I think.
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod tru, but recently is all that matters when someone today asks "what MUD client would be good to run on linux?"
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Of course :)
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: too many people trying linux have NO business running linux
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: 1337 cred :P
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I'd gnerally agree though, mushclient under wine is good enough -- and it's going to that or vista when I get a new computer so...
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm good with linux, but i'm satisfied with a shell account. still using windows on my desktop
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Don't go vista.
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Worst decision i ever made.
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: yeah, I know -- moved one of my machines to vista recently. Oh dear.
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can still but computers with XP, and 7 is an option now
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but -> buy
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: meh, i'm almost at the point of giving up
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: managed to get the windows 2000 cd contents zipped and copied onto the lappie, but it won't unzip em, bastards
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: PKUNZIP: (W06) Warning,! Insufficient Memory. PKUNZIP: (E11) No files found
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Anyone knows if Remote works together with latest iTunes on Windows 7?
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: For the iPhone
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: How does one kill zombie processes?
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: kill -9 PID#
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: sync, sync, sync, reboot
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Extra lag today? Or just me?
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: is there a way in excel to search a worksheet for a cell with the exact same content as another?
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: and if so, what is that way?
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you could try asking on tech, more savvy people are there :p
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: uh mis
T1/r7/2009-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik giggles at Redryn's actions.
T1/r7/2009-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: How would I find the voltage rating of an LED?
T1/r7/2009-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: non-high brightness is about 1.7vold, hight-brightness 1.9v
T1/r7/2009-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Hmm, so it's standard across LEDs?
T1/r7/2009-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: yeah afaik, never met any outside that range
T1/r7/2009-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik goes "Hmmm ..." as he slowly nods his head.
T1/r7/2009-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: checked my notes
T1/r7/2009-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: 1.7 volts for non-high-brightness red, 1.9 volts for high-brightness, high-efficiency and low-current red, and 2 volts for orange and yellow, and 2.1 volts for green. Assume 3.4 volts for bright white, bright non-yellowish green, and most blue types. Assume 4.6 volts for 430 nM bright blue types such as Everbright and Radio Shack. Design for 12 milliamps for the 3.4 volt types and 10 milliamps for the 430 NM blue. 
T1/r7/2009-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Hmm, these are probably flashlight type LEDs
T1/r7/2009-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: you trying to fix something?
T1/r7/2009-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Sorry, multitasking here-- yeah, I had a flashlight that's supposed to charge in a cigarette lighter, but it stopped working, so I'm looking inside it.
T1/r7/2009-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I'm wondering if I can replace the chargable battery with some AAs or similar
T1/r7/2009-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: use a voltmeter and see if the led's get power etc. i'd say that it's either the battery or the circuit that takes care of the charging that's out
T1/r7/2009-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Hey Farkyss, You around?
T1/r7/2009-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: only in body
T1/r7/2009-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: what do you want, blimey
T1/r7/2009-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Fair enough. Quick question, if you don't mind... I know you do some PC repair. Do you have any specific program you use to track customers / orders?
T1/r7/2009-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: an elderly access database
T1/r7/2009-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ah, something you cobbled together yourself, then?
T1/r7/2009-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: not me personally, but essentially yes
T1/r7/2009-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: my predecessor
T1/r7/2009-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ahhhh gotcha. Well, suppose so long as its functional
T1/r7/2009-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: most of the tracking while it's in the workshop is done in treeware
T1/r7/2009-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Treeware?
T1/r7/2009-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: yes, treeware
T1/r7/2009-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Not a term I'm familiar with.
T1/r7/2009-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: pen and paper
T1/r7/2009-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ah
T1/r7/2009-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Gotcha.
T1/r7/2009-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Thanks, I suppose.
T1/r7/2009-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: in the beta cmud, is there a way to force the mapper to become undockable so that when I open it up it remains a floating window?
T1/r7/2009-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: It should save window position,  yeah. Just have to unlock layout to drag it around.
T1/r7/2009-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: so if I decide to save with the mapper closed, then I'm out of luck?
T1/r7/2009-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Not out of luck... you can open the mapper back up.
T1/r7/2009-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nakami Tech: anyone use the mushclient?  I'd like to be able to set and change a variable using the console.  I can't find a reference to the syntax.  anyone do that?
T1/r7/2009-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: did you check the mush homepage ? likely detailed helpfiles there
T1/r7/2009-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: check getvariable vs. setvariable
T1/r7/2009-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nakami Tech: ok thanks.  will check those
T1/r7/2009-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}#/bin/bash Isildur Tech: did someone already used office online?
T1/r7/2009-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: I want to add a number to a variable.  that nmber will change and is caught with %d in a trigger.  I am currently using #add variablename %1 but that is not working.  what shoulod i use instead?
T1/r7/2009-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: how would ^&%*{LastCommand}$ be converted for cmud it does not seem to work how it is
T1/r7/2009-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: can anyone write me a shell script that will detect when a network connection is established, and automatically dial into aard using tinyfugue if no other aard connection exists?
T1/r7/2009-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: if so, would such a person accept 2 tp's for it?
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: hey guys, if i am using dd if=random.iso and of=/dev/sdc  , should i be fdisk/disklabel/parted'ing the /dev/sdc first, or is it ok to just do a direct write,?
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: if the iso needs to be bootable
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: dd will take care of all that for you, in theory.
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: does anyone know why the spellup script for mush seems to go to full auto mode (like spamming spellups as if i'm not in combat) if i do anything remotely not combat related during combat (bid, whoi, note etc.) and is there a way to fix this?
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: no ideas?
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I have a clever idea involving a Mr. Coffee and a USB controller.  Does that count?
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i haven't had a problem like that cookar, i find it can be finicky if i try to heal while spellup script is going off
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: hmmm...its 100% repeatable for me...i can get it to start spamming spellups in combat 100% of the time by whoiing
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: maybe a afix here checking this website
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: lemme check
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: ya i just who-ed in combat and it didn't seem to have a problem with it
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: did you have any spells that needed to be refreshed?
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: fail...
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: turn off the auto refresh for a second cancel a spell or 50, start combat, turn it back on and type whoi
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cougr Tech: anyone know a good spellup script that is upto date adn where from?
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i think this spellup script (for mush) is pretty solid except for this tiny minor issue (btw hadar, it seems he has fixes for big map and chat plugins but no spellup fix yet, i might have to send him a note :))
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: ok there, pending spells, who-ed and nothing extraordinary happened
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: could it be dependent on os? this is bizarre?
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: did you spellup resume?
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i think i need to see if i need an updated version because sometimes if i spam heal or something, it'll start spamming spellups
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: ya, spellups resumed right after end of combat
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cougr Tech: sorry was after spellup script for zmud, that is upto date
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: Too many attempts to cast 'Absorb', skipping it for now.
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: immediately triggered it again at will
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: it's possible i have an older version that doesn't have the bug you have, but i think i have other bugs
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: its not that annoying except for the fact that when this happens it starts ignoring the spells that get that message
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: so i end up having to manually cast it
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: http://www.not-porn.com/Aardwolf has one i dunno if its up to date
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cougr Tech: if that is the one off fiendish site, i dont think it is
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i'm sure there's a small hotfix you could put in there to fix that
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: as daunting as the spellup script is
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i'm not a code guy so i wouldn't even know where to start
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: hrm, well you're using the one off the mushclient forums right?
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: the most comlpicated thing i've done on my own is use a macro that casts my best attack spell when i presss f1
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: yeah i downloaded some initial file
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: and then an update from the forums (I think basts fix?)
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: ok well i'll make sure my script is up to date and see if i can get it to glitch like yours
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: if not, then i dunno what to tell you :P
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i'll just blame vista
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: what OS are you using by chance
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: oh, i'm using vista too right now
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: so that's not it, what mush ver?
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: 4.4
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: hrm
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: hmm i think thats not the most recent
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: ya it is
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i just updated mine a second ago
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: gimme a sec and i'll see if i can't update my script and try again
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: obviously something is making the script believe i am in a non-combat situation when i am not
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: do you have the telnet_options script wherever it is supposed to be?  What other plugins do you have installed?
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: AFAIK, it's linked to the stats script which says if you're fighting or not, so technically that shouldn't be possible
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i think i sinallted everything that the thing told me to
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: only other non bundled script is the cp checker mini window
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: that thing bugs me, i need to fix it already so it runs in it's own world
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: What version of MUSHclient?
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: takes up like half my window
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: 4.4
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: yeah that part is annying
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: and i wish it cleared when you cp quit
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: that should be and easy fix
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: ok cookar, just got the bast spellup script, i'ma give it a whirl and see what happens
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: alright just tried it out and i could replicate your bug
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: hurray..
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: ya... hurray... 
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: well at least it means i didn't install wrong...unless we both did
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: oh sweet this new script lets me add skills too
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: well i'll trying mucking around with it and see what the deal is
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: if i get something going i'll post it up somewhere for you
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: cool thanks :)
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: oh and i friended you if want me
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: you can also trigger the bug when sleeping
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: already friended you back
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: cool, and wait you mean if you who while sleeping it does it too?
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: just gives you the one error message
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: you dream about casting spells
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: but then when you wake up
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: it won't start casting unless you resleep and wake up again
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: hrm interesting
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i'll see what i can do
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: it seems it doesn't break until the end of the who list
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: can do it with whoi which on a small whoi won't even have a page break
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i suspect it has something to do with "Players found: [182], Max this reboot: [404], Connections this reboot: [31411]" for some reason
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: can also trigger it by reading a note
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: or fingering someone
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: wtf...
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: something is terribly broken somewhere
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: also bidding yes thats the other way
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sikai gets a blank look on his face.
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i get the feeling i'm gonna hate this
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i could always note to bast
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: man i'm loving the improvements he made though
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: oh yeah spells and skills will trigger it
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: but spells 100 120 won't
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: interesting
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i'm hoping just the "broadcast_state.xml" file is broken.  i'm gonna double check and make sure everything is installed correctly, but if it's broken i should be able to use the original one that the original plugin used
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i think i've pinpointed the problem
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: oh what is it?
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: something is broken with bast's detection of state (fighting, afk, whatever) to where when you're fighting when you enter some commands it turns your state to "active" when it should stay "fighting"
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i should be able to fix it, gimme a sec
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i  figured it was something like that
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: cooker i'm fairly certain i fixed it
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: anyone got a working copy of xcopy32 they can email me?
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i need help with some lua pseudo regexp
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: anyone familiar with lua regexp or even normal regexp
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just ask the question...
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i need to match a string like "nnneueeeee"
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ([neswud]+) will capture any number of n e s w u d
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i got that part but what i need is to match the first string of repeated chars
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: like match "nnnn" from "nnnnssnensn"
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're trying to translate it into 4n, there's no real efficiency gain...the MUD parses them the same
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: it's not really for mud's sake but my own readability, makes it easier to look and see what's shorter
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i suppose i could just incorpate a comparison function that compares two SWs to see what's shorter
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Airuk Tech: what you want to do is difficult with just regex but easy with a regex plus a script
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: that's what i'm thinking
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i'm playing with: for d in string.gmatch(swalk, "([nwsedu]?)*") do
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not too difficult, just needs to use backreferences, but I think you're backwards on which is easier to see if it's shorter
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: when comparing two short speedwalks sure, but two longer ones not so much
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: by eye any way
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: without using the numbers, you can just take the length of chars in the string
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: by eye or script...that's MUCH easier to measure
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the one that goes to the right the least is shorter
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: are those of you using the mush spellup script updated by bast are you able to get the spellup block function to work?
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i copied his syntaxe for the pro good inertial barrier exactly
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: and get this error message
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: Spell named '68 12' does not exist.
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: A nil value was passed to find_spellsn
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spodgy Tech: Best rss reader on the planet, in anyone's humble opinion?
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: sage plugin for firefox, and/or google reader
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spodgy Tech: sounds good, I've heard google reader mentioned a few times, having fun with feeddemon.. on the surface stable, underneath a little naff
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spodgy Tech: is google reader thick or web?
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: web
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spodgy Tech: ok.. will give it a whirl.. a little attached to ie at the minute
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Spodgy hangs his head in shame
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: what's the best winamp visualisation plugin, that's the question
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: best visualisatsion plugin is for foobar2k because it can display electric sheep screensavers :P
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: what if i'm allergic to sheep?
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spodgy Tech: hmmm.. anyone know how to get older posts to appear in google reader?
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spodgy Tech: any rss junkies out there?
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus raises his hand.
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: But I don't know the answer to your question. :P I use FeedDemon *blink*
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ff bookmarks + rss sidebar
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spodgy Tech: I was using that up until 20 minutes ago... read a review that said google was better.. not so sure now :)
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i have no idea what you're on about
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spodgy Tech: I'm subscribed to a podcast show.. and I need the older posts, and ideally listed from oldest to newest
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: FeedDemon is better, and it syncs with Google Reader. :\
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spodgy Tech: Aye.. I think I'm going to re-install it.. I think rss needs a thick client.. Im surprised no one has nailed this perfectly yet
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Cool. "According to tech news site Neowin, an anonymous user posted usernames and passwords for over 10,000 Windows Live Hotmail accounts to web site PasteBin, including accounts on email domains like otmail.com, sn.com, and ive.com. Neowin verified that the accounts are genuine, and that most appear to be based in Europe. Ars Technica reports, more specifically, those leaked accounts include usernames in alphabetical order beginning with the letters "ar" to "bl". Microsoft has confirmed the leak, so if you're a Live Hotmail user and you suspect you may have been affected, now's the time to change that password. For the rest of uswell, this may serve as a reminder that it might be a good time to do a password refresh, anyway."
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Fail. :P
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: yep
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: or not use silly free webmail
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Nice to see that 10k hotmail accounts have had their passwords leaked. :P
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: free webmail is useful...
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: but my hotmail acct pretty much only is used as a spam trap
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: and isn
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: isn't affected by that. ;)
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I dont really get spam on my hotmail account :)
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: maybe because nobody writes me :)
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: it's the one I use for email for a site I don't want email from... ;)
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Use portable email addresses instead.
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I actually use an alias for that purpose, and it has a pretty good filter
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: so the mail that ends up in my hotmail account, is the mail I actually want to read
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: I'd rather get my real email at gmail or at my isp
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I have a gmail account, but I've never really used it
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: maybe it's because I've been using my msg/hotmail account for a long time
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: ugh.. I just learned that my BlackBerry doesn't synchronize to different timezones
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i've had sort of a major issue appear and have had to totally reinstall mush
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: 200k to whomever can correctly answer 4734.
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 200k for someone to figure out how to post 4734?
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus snickers with you about your shared secret. 
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: so, my legit copy of windows 7 x32 and x64 Ultimate just arrived :)
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: guess there may not be an answer.
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: There can't be an answer when there's no post to answer.
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cytan, actually post it publicly...
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: |  4734|05 Oct 14:34| Cytan       | Locating interpretor in unix/linux  |  11|
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: is rmeoved now
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Yep. You can see it. We can't. ;)
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: but was public.  thx.
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that doesn't say the to line
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it was never posted to all...
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: aliases won't call other aliases referenced within them in mush?
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: They can, if you "send to execute" instead of "send to world"
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i asked this on q/a earlier maybe tech is more appropriate...if i am setting up speedwalks will stacking 2 run commands back to back be slower than mashing them together in one run command? trying to mooch some of my speedwalks off ones i've already built without actually taking the time to c/p the done ones
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: by faster i mean mudside in terms of lag and such
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: no since the work is done by your PC
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: and AFAIK there's no lag after run so
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: well the mud is receiving 2 individual run commands thats where i'm anticipating the lag...ok thats what i was wondering
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: if you were feeling ambitious you could try writing a script that times your runs
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: not that hard, but would take some thinking
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: What thinking? epoch time of run end - epoch time of run start = run time in seconds
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: well sure just ruin it for him.  cookar new to scripting.  i said it wasn't ahrd
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 83
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, mis
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: in mush, can i disable the F1 key as bringing up the help menu ? i like to set a few macros on the function keys.
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Yes!
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I'll have to look how. One sec!
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: thanks i'm looking around to but haen't found it yet =)
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Found it!
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Go to File - Global Preferences
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Look on the General tab
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: And check F1,F6 are macros
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: beautiful, thank you =)
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: on tt++ i had an alias "runto %0" that would..say i type "runto verume" would return: "hold garbage;;enter;;hold medusa;;runto verume"
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: once you start dual wielding it becomes more complicated unfortunately :(
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: but on mush that syntax doesn't seem to work..what's the differnce for mush equivalent ?
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: don't put in the extra semicolons...or just use carriage returns between commands
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: Oh no! Why did you switch to mush? 
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: "runto *" with "hold garbage;enter;hold medusa;runto "%1""
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: inconceivable
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: But, instead of the semi-colons that I used, use line breaks, Naomii.
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i set a variable to my second item/weapon, so i don't have to change my speedwalks
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: ahh so the wildcard sets itself as %1 variable (and the extra semicolons was just me trying to escape the semicolon,though ya had to =P)
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: all i do is "setsecond <item>" and  all my walks are changed
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: for that matter i have a portal alias where it grabs the wild card name from my portal container, excutes weild remove
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: the key is to make your aliases modular
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: the idea is to build very complex scripts very easily by constructing smaller parts
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i know mush has some global variables available that its pulling from the built in plugins...for instance my current level
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: how would i call that in an alias?
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: That's not MUSHclient itself, but it could be some plugin you are running.
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: ok another one (still mush), if i have an alias for "recall" (hold garbage;enter;hold medusa), then i have an alias "qr" (recall;run 8s;quest request), why doesn't the "qr" use the alias for "recall" ?
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Are you running Nick Gammon's stat collector plugin?
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i am yes
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: naomii maxe sure to send the alias to execute
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Naomii: in the qr alias, change send to from world to Execute.
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: ahhh, soo many buttons and knobs =P thanks again.
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: it's not very newbie friendly but once you get the hang of it, there's no limit to the scripts you can write
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: much, much different than tt++ for sure.
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nakami Tech: are you talking about the mush client?
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Cookar, then you can use GetPluginVariable
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: The first parameter is the ID of the plugin
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: The second parameter is the name of the variable
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: is there a way to fetch a world's height/width in mush
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Yep
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Use the world.GetInfo function
T1/r7/2009-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: ah ha that's what i was looking for.  many thanks
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: now i just need to call it when necessary
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: m/t
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Hookers' phone number, eh Cookar? :P
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: a variable :) but close
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Starling spanks Cookar playfully.
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: within a lua script thingy how would i tell it to send a command to the mud?
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Send("your command")
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: (Assuming that was a MUSHclient Lua question..)
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: is there an easy way to incorporate variables into an alias scripting using lua (mush you are right)...basically i have a variable defined as second and i want my alias to send remove "second" to the mud
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: what i'm trying is doing nothing but generating error messages :)
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: cook you need to use SetVariable(name, value) and GetVariable(name) with name being "second"
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: got the setvariable part to work
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: when you want to reference it in an alias, you need to check "Expand Variables" and use "@second" where you want the variable to show up
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: for instance, "remove @second"
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: if second = "axe"
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: yep its working now
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: ok
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: is there a way to append to strings in lua?
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: (mush) again
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: if you mean two strings...  string = "foo".."bar"
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: "string1" .. "string2
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: yes i meant two i can't type 
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: is there an easy way to create and define a bunch of variables in mush?  sort of like a spreadsheet format where i can just tab through rather than open up a new window for each individual new variable?
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i have a text file with the variable names and definitions already in place
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: so would be a trivial cp job if there were any better way
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: you could write a program that translates your variables into a compatible mush xml file.  but that's probably more work
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: It would be best to make a hash in Lua, then serialize the data.
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cookar looks around and whistles innocently.
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cookar blinks innocently.
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: like   varname={ ["fred"]="foo", ["barney"]="bar" }
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: then you just access them with varname.fred or varname.barney.  Or character="fred"  varname[character]
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: so im on mush. i have a trigger off of "You feel aligned with darkness." which triggers "cast 'inertial barrier". if i manually cast protection good, it works; but if i use aard's spellup command it doesn't. im confused =(
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Maybe you have it on forgetskill?
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: I think there was some problem with inertial barrier and the protection spells with the spellup command, but I don't know for sure what it was, or if it was even an issue.
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: well, yes i have inertial barrier forgot. that way my trigger will cast it on succesful protection good (since they won't stack the other way around)
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: And you have protection evil on there too and it still won't cast?
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: i have protection evil+inertial barrier forgot. protection good isn't. my mush trigger trigger on the "You feel aligned with darkness.", which is the message for successful pro. good. then cast inertial barrier. so, if i type "cast 'protection good'" and it's successful it casts inertial barrier. but when i use aard's spellup command and successfully cast pro. good, it doesn't even though i still get the "You feel aligned.." message (sorry long =)
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: dunno how you can display diggers in mush, but i would do that
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: diggers ?
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: debug mode or whatever function it should have. shows triggers etc in the output window
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Oh, so the protection good actually casts then?
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: triggers*
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: yes, protection good casts with "spellup 1 210 75 100", but mush doesn't trigger off of the "You feel aligned with darkness." message and cast inertial barrier. but if i type "cast 'protection good'", it does trigger off the "You feel align.." message and casts inertial barrier.
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Uh, dunno
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Probably something with the tags I'd assume?
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: me either .. ;o)
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: you borked your wildcards?
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: So turn on spellup tags and trigger off the {affon} message instead, which will show regardless of /how/ it's cast.
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: so i used an alias to make all the variable defintions...got caught up in a gq and an rauc so it took a while
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: what am i doing wrong here.  I have a variable called "amusement".  I am trying to do the following:
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: SetVariable("directions", musement .. "7sw")
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: SetVariable("directions", @amusement .. "7sw")
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: SetVariable ("amusement", "run 7sw")
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: amusement is already defined
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: thats not the problem i'm trying to define a new variable by appending 7sw to amusements string
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: SetVariable ("directions", "" .. @amusement .. "run 7sw")
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: ahh a dummy string at the start ok
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: still getting an error message :( i'll c/p it
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: [string "Alias: "]:1: unexpected symbol near '
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: [string "Alias: "]:1: unexpected symbol near '@'
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: And you defined amusement?
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: yep
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chicomecoatl sits down and thinks deeply. 
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: did you check "Expand variables"
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: lemme double check didn't know you had to do that if you were just in script mode
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: if so, try GetVariable("amusement")
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: He has to be in "send to script" otherwise it wouldn't even parse.
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Nod, try getvar
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: [string "Alias: "]:1: attempt to concatenate global 'w2u' (a nil value)
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: oh i didn't know he was in send to script, then ya you need getvar
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: thats what happens when i expand variable
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: well don't do that and read ^^
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Cookar:  What do you mean by "expand variable"?
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Is "w2u" your @amusement"
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: try "musement run blah blah"
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: try "@amusement run blah blah"
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: hmm with getvar i am getting an error message but my alias is working
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: which doesn't make the most sense in the world to me since if it is broken how is it producing the correct results
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: with getvar don't put an @
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i'm not
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Can you copy in the two lines that you have there?
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: this is actually 2 aliases...the script alias and the command alias that outputs a run command ...lemme get that for you
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: first alias is one line : SetVariable("directions", GetVar("amusement") .. "7sw")
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: the other alias is 2 lines and calls the first alias with the first line basically then does run irections
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: the other alias is 2 lines and calls the first alias with the first line basically then does run @directions
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: trying to be all modular and stuff i think shrug
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: GetVar is not a command...  it would have to be SetVariable( "directions", ( GetVariable( "amusement" ) or "" ).."7sw" )
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: the ' or ""' is not necessary, but it helps stop esploding data if the variable is missing.
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: when i do that though the scipt alias does nothing
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i'm gettin an error message but correct output when i use getvar, no error message but incorrect output when i use getvariable
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: when you press shift-ctrl-7 what is listed under "amusement" in the variables?
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: w2u
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I just ran what I copied, and it's fine.  I got "w2u" and "w2u7sw"
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: if I use GetVar, like you had, I get [string "Command line"]:1: attempt to call global 'GetVar' (a nil value)
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: are you sure you have this alias "send to script" instead of "send to world" or "execute"?
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: positive hold on i'm cping what you did it seems all those extra spaces are necessary because when i leave them it works
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: but when i delete them for aesthetic purposes it breaks
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Lua ignores whitespace.
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Just ran this with the same results.  /SetVariable("directions",(GetVariable("amusement") or "").."7sw")
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: hmm ok hold maybe i dleted something more than a space?
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i'm trying to clean this up so the template is clean for making this quick to write aliases
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: wow, this works too.  Thought I would at least have to separate out the or.  SetVariable("directions",(GetVariable("amusement")or"").."7sw")
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: so this or thing is really necessary...man thats super ugly
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i'm not sure i understand why leaving out the or "" fails it...amusement is definteily defined
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: is there a logical reason for that or is it lua just being finicky?
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: cookar, if you have it working...  delete the "amusement" variable, then run the SetVariable above without the ' or ""' part
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: [string "Command line"]:1: attempt to concatenate a nil value
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i see
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: umm hrm
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: now because i'm not super happy with somehting baout this i was tryin to put this all into one alias
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: so i would like to have it send(run irections) as the seocnd line
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: so i would like to have it send(run @directions) as the seocnd line
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: [string "Alias: "]:2: ')' expected near 'w2u7sw'
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: hey what provides ' mkisofs' ?
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: whats cmud syntax to access variable in another class again?
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: wow, that's a crappy restriction
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: ?
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: not a restriction, i'm trying to be accurate in my variable names to reduce collisions :P
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Airuk Tech: Class>/<Varname> i believe 
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Airuk Tech: lass/Varname
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: that's class
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: what about module
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Overlord Xantcha Tech: //Package/Class/Varname
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Airuk Tech: xantcha got it. cmud parsed my answer :P
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Airuk Tech: *kicks cmud*
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: blah, i just realised why that wasnt working for me
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: *loves cmud*
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: i'd moved the variable into another class :\
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: How do you add to a variable in mushclient? send to variable overwrites the current content of the variable
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: been a while, thanks Xan :)
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: any ideas how to escape < and > characters in substitutions, cmud beta?
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: ansi color trigger captures channel talk, and goes #sub %2%cr
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: but the <sarcasm> in my name gets lost when i emote :\
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Cool. The Webmail password leak that affected 10k hotmail/msn/live accounts yesterday has been extended to Gmail, Yahoo, and AOL.
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: that IS good news
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Time to change passwords. :P
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyreens Tech: nothing like good news
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: details?
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: / link?
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: http://feeds.gawker.com/~r/lifehacker/full/~3/K3nmpYGpM1U/webmail-password-leaks-extend-to-gmail-yahoo-aol
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Could just go to Lifehacker.com, I think, and find it on the first page.
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyreens Tech: where can I find those MUSH script files?  I'd like to try and switch up the spellup if possible. 
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Plugins.
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Should be able to edit them.
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyreens Tech: that spellup script is in there, not MUD-side, right?
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods.
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyreens Tech: Thanks
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods.
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arismis Tech: anyone familiar with mushclient LUA?
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arismis Tech: i'm trying to build a plugin that colors certain names a different color if they are in a list of keywords
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arismis Tech: dude... where do i get mushclient v4.43? the official download page only has 4.40
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thayaric Tech: check the mushclient forums. general i think
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arismis Tech: oh yeah, i see it on forums... haha thanks
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Airuk Tech: Anyone know of a cmud spellup script?
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: davos.aardcharn.com
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Airuk Tech: thanks charneus
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Airuk Tech: he should upload that to the package library
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: is there a way to send a carriage return within a send command (so multiple commands within one send command) (mush again)
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: use a 
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: semicolon in your command
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: won't work
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: use execute rather than send
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: its part of an alias that is using script stuff though so i need send
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i guess i just need multiple send commands
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: perhaps you need to explain a bit more -- if you can use execute from an alias if you want
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: of course, it has other effects, but it will parse the line with semis in -- I use this all the time
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: ahh i see what you mean there is an execute command
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: to use in scripting instead of send that got it to parse the semi colons
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: yes, or if you are using addxml in lua, you use "send_to=12" I think
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: it reparses the command, rather than just sends it -- I use this often, so that one alias can contain another. the first one just calls the match for the other
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arismis Tech: anyone have the exact output line for when you kill a gquest mob?
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: QUEST: You have almost completed your QUEST!
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: QUEST: You have almost completed your QUEST!
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: arismis, Congratulations, that was one of the GLOBAL QUEST mobs!
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Anyone know if its possible with Verizon Wireless to forward sms messages from one handset to another, similar to call forwarding?
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesymite Garl Tech: that should be a feature of yoru phone not your provider
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesymite Garl Tech: if you mean that after you receive a text..then just look in yoru reply menu adn hit forward
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Er, no it would be a feature of the provider.... being on the handset would be pointless, cause then it would cease when you turn the handset off
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesymite Garl Tech: but if you mean like call forwarding automatically I don't know
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arismis Tech: oh man... how do you edit the database that came with mushclient?
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arismis Tech: this look/scan plugin doesn't have a way of removing entries it writes to the database...
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: iPhone gets VOIP over 3G, for anyone thats relevant to.
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: Anyone know why cmud would be creating a duplicate variable in the same class as the variable I'm trying to assign a value to?
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: Or does that fall under "Fun bugs in cmud"?
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: how are you referring to the variable?
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: I've tried several methods
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: #var somevar value and somevar = value
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: In both cases the variable gets duplicated in the same location it already exists
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: what version?
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: 3.1
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: and the var is being created in the same location, just multiple times over?
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: Yes
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: hmm, either you have something messed up somewhere or you've got some sort of typo that's gotten past the compiler.  Is it all variables doing this or just this one?  Also, have you tried a new session to see if maybe it's just this session doing it?
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Anyone found any interesting uses for google voices?
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: sure.  I use it for my biz calls.
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: no need to give out home or cell or biz.. just one number, and it rings where I am.
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: and if I get a secretary in the future, the same number rings her instead
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nice. Though, I meant like.... I dunno. Grease monkey scripts, other apps, that sort of thing.
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I know they arent accepting number porting, but call forwarding seems to work reasonably well with them
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Do you use Gmail as well Doku?
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: google apps for your domain, yes.
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: will be bringing e-mail in-house somewhat soon 'though.
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ahhhhhh. Have you been using the forward SMS/Voicemail to email? Any comments on its reliability?
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: no, I haven't...  don't use the transcribe features.  I just have it e-mail me when I have a message so that if I don't get the ring, etc.
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: because sometimes I am in places where I don't get phone coverage.
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ahhhhh gotcha. I use Gmail, was just trying to decide how to deal with that...  kneejerk wants to tell me its reliable enough, but, guess till I know should still check gvoice site as well
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Why the move away from google apps to inhouse? just out of curiousity
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: paranoia.  and the outages (although rare, they have happened to me at VERY bad times)
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ahhhh fair enough. Though I understand when the sites down, the imap/pop3 still tends to work
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: yeah.. and I use thunderbird w/ enigmail, so...
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Enigmail?
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: but at the time, I was on the road, using their gmail phone app...
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ahhh encryption stuffs.
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: enigmail = gpg/pgp plugin.. right. high encryption
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: to send social security # and other documents back and forth to employees.
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ahhhhh gotcha. Nothing I'd be using it for is so confidential I'm concerned about it
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: yeah... but I have all kinds of data that I need employees to ipdate/verify, etc. that I don't nesessarily want out there in the open.
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daloran nods at Doku.
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Well, I've got the ultimate security on keeping employees information confidential. I don't have any ;)
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: heh.  mine are the most paranoid people you will ever meet.
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: but anyway...  I use gmail (google apps for your domain),and I use the gmail calendar.
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Eh, I don't fault them, as much as I think the "google is watching!" people are a bit extreme, if its in your gmail acct, someone were to get your password...  But I suppose BCC would cover that as well
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: but not any of ther google docs or other stuff.
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod..... I've poked at docs a little bit.. it seems.. handy, but, I'm too used to excel/word to really use it well
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: I use sugarCRM and wikimedia for most of my biz stuff... on a VPN island.
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: openBSD vpn tunnels over Cisco VPN tunnels over the internet.
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude now has abelinc's spellup script, and just typed ' spellup ' instead of ' bers' and got t same result
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampChick Tech: cool vampiredude 
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: omigosh
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: a vampirechick?
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampChick Tech: i kno right? lol vampchick
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude looks in love.
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampChick Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Oh go makeout and get off tech already.
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Yeah. Go marry each other, while you're at it.
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Get out and go BIG CLUBBING instead of BIG MUDDING, UHHHHH.
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: PIMPING IS KEY TO LIFE.
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampChick Tech: least i know how to do shit on tech :p
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampChick Tech: off
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: No cursing please.
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampChick Tech: my apologies
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Except turn the channel off, apparently? :P
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus grins evilly.
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: NO CHARNEUS I WILL NOT MAKE OUT WITH YOU
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: omg, mistell!
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: That's ok. I was asking your mom anyway.
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: Daloran, you are so adam sandler like that it makes me want to configure my settings so that root can log on through a serial consol
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yes, father =(
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus snickers with VampireDude about their shared secret.
T1/r7/2009-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Charneus was rejected loudly.  It was quite a spectacle.
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: what's the easiest way to grab the time to tick
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: Anyone alive ?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: no
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: what's the matter?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: eh?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: i died last night
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: zMud's moon script is weird
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: And I dunno what is wrong with it
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: anyone know where i can get a moon script for mush
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: Anyone savvy with that ?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daredevil Tech: Anyone who uses CMUD and have it nicely configured with Aardwolf? (Map, etc.)
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arismis Tech: is anyone familiar with Blainer's look/scan plugin?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: no, but i am familiar with a good kick in the pants
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: you get kicked in the pants alot eh
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you too can kick me in the pants for 2tp
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: tempting... however, thanks, but no thanks
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Godsmack Tech: hm why am i getting randomly kicked out of aard?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Godsmack Tech: ive noticed a random trend over the last couple of days
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: random trend... let me write that down
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Me Wantee Freggle Tech: copy right it fast! ;)
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Godsmack Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arismis Tech: is anyone familiar with the look/scan aardwolf mushclient plugin? need help with the database manipulation portion of it
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Ok. Curious if there's a way to do this. In SQL, is there a way to make the numbers of one column match the record number? For instance, if Record number 1 says: "1" "223" "This item here." "More stuff" etc..., is there a way to make the 223 change to 1? Subsequent records would have the second column match the record number.
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus could change them all by hand, but that'd take forever. :\
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: should be able to do something with an update query, Charn.
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Yeah. I've no clue how to do that. :(
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: doesn't rownum change based on your query? ie, sort by, where clauses you add
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: its not a real column, unless we're talking about something else here
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: What I'm trying to do is reorganize something. Every time you delete a record, the number isn't reset to the previous number. It just adds to it. So if I had 20 records, and I deleted 3 of them, the next 'record' would be 21, not 18.
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: So I'm trying to clean it up so that it matches with the recno. :\
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: well, you can try this, not sure if it'll work:  update mytable set mycolumn = rownum
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Hmmm.
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: assuming the record number is the primary key for the table, UPDATE <tblName> SET <column>=<expression> WHERE <condition> ought to work
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Will have to try both, then. :)
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: is there anywhere besides carfax to look up cars?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: carfax wants 30$ :(
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: for what?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: history report? dunno
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: just to check value of a car, like a property tax type thing?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: try edmunds.com or kbb for value/resale
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Try https://www.nicb.org/cps/rde/xchg/nicb/hs.xsl/vincheck.html
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: most companies in uk charge like 3.50 for that service
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: evil evil service fees
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: You do know the VIN, right? :P
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i know the vin ^_^
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Yeah, go to that site I just gave you.
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: the vin is WDBWK73F96F094946
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ok, its loading
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: the site says its certificates do not match?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: and then it said that it received an invalid response from an upstream server
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: What VIN number?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Ah, I see it.
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: the vin is WDBWK73F96F094946
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I ran it, came back as saying that it's neither been reported stolen nor as a total loss (meaning it isn't 'refurbished')
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: what do you mean refurbished?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: 2006 Mercedes-Benz? :P
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: yes, its metallic silver
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: SLK Class?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: what do you mean class?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: model. :P
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ah, it says AMG slk 55 benz
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: so slk yes
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods.
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: dont ask me though im not that car-savvy
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: what did you mean refurbished?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Refurbished might be the wrong word, but I just mean that it hasn't been reupholstered or had major body work done on it.
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: oh ok
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: salvage?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: At least, doesn't appaer that way. *shrug*
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i see
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: yeah it looks fine other than some minor paint scratches
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: and a little bit of rust
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: what about websites other than carfax to look up service records on? is it better to search by plate or by vin?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Plates can change. VINs cannot.
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Just search for 'free carfax alternatives' and look through that.
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: that is a list of forums posts of whiners saying they dont have credit
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Is this a private sale, or coming from a used car lot?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: owner
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: So it's a private sale, then.
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: what do you mean by private?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i don't understand the problem
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: is he being cheap, or stupid?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: farkyss the problem is im too cheap to spend 30$ on a carfax report and the owner isnt exactly the honest type
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: then don't buy it
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: farkyss but its shiny
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: then it's worth $5 on the vin check
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: its 30$ for a vin check, not 5
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods at Feral Farkyss.
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nah it ain't
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: oh you mean that other site?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: its still loading
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: my cable company sort of sucks :(
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: and what's $30 if you're buying a $500 car?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: farkyss, its 30$
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volvagia Tech: I can check vins for free :P
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: volvagia you can?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: the car is $30?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Yeah, some people have unlimited access to carfax. ;)
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: charneus that sounds nice lol
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i dont have that kind of cash ^_^
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: It's only $40. ;)
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if a car is being sold for $30 then it's scrap
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volvagia Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volvagia Tech: I have unlimited
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Farkyss: The carfax report is $30.
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: volvagia.... if i give you a vin and a tp, can you check it?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volvagia Tech: yes I can
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: cool.
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: use a different provider then charn
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volvagia Tech: send me a tell plz
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: benz slk with amg package is a lot more than 30
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: how much is the -car-?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i cant, you're not visible
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: gonf what's amg package?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I'm not the one worried about it. ;) VampireDude is. :P
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volvagia Tech: try now
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: sport package basically
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arismis Tech: booooo! no sl55 unless ur over 40 plz
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arismis Tech: get the M
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: http://www.is-it-a-lemon.com/check/index.htm does it for $20
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: gonf what do you mean, just that it has the sunroof?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: By the way, VampireDude: Those 'whiners' on the forums you don't want to browse through often have answers in there. When I'm looking for a link, I'll click on the forum and browse the first page. If there are no visible links, I move on to the next one on the search engine.
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: no, bigger engine, supercharged I think, extra luxury junk, etc
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: probably stiffer suspension, some other performance stuff
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: just pay for the check and if it comes back clean, offer the guy $20 less for it to cover the cost
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: farkyss i don't think that'd work.
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: why wouldn't it work?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: you don't know this guy.
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: he's got his own way of doing things.
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Look, if he's not that 'honest' then I wouldn't buy it from him, period.
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: and if you don't do it just his way.
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: then why buy from him in the first place?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: is this a dealer?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: cause he's selling a decent vehicle
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: If he doesn't want to be a man and accept $20 for you being a careful buyer, then it's not worth it.
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i'm not buying him...
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if it's a decent vehicle, it's worth spending $20 to check it out
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: farkyss i understand your point.
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: its an expensive car, 20-30 bucks is nothing if it saves you the hassle
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: wait gonf how expensive are you saying it should be?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: what is it, anyway?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: farkyss it's a little silver sedan
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: year, make model?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: with a curved roof that looks sort of like a vw bug
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: mercendes-benz slk amg, go check kelly blue's website for the value
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arismis Tech: how much is he asking for it?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: arismis not that much
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arismis Tech: like 30?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: dollars?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: year? model? trim?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arismis Tech: er... k
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: farkyss what do you mean trim, sorry?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: probably wrecked it :p
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arismis Tech: as in 30,000
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arismis Tech: i have a friend selling a cl55 AMG with 50k miles for 26k if anyone's interested
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: what year is it, what model is it
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if you don't even know the answer to these questions, you're not in a position to be contemplating buying it
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: arismis will he do a carfax?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: farkyss all a sale takes is money and goods and 2 people that trust each other
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i dont have to go to mechanic school, thanks just the same
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arismis Tech: er, prbly not, if you want to feel free, most private sellers won't spend the money to give you a carfax
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: no, it needs the buyer to have a clue what he's buying
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: farkyss a thing with 4 wheels that runs and is shiny
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Hell, I can give you my shiny red wagon. It comes turbocharged. :)
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arismis Tech: look at it this way, if ur buying from private party you are saving >1k in taxes already anyways... more than offsetting 50 carfax reports
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if that's truly your opinion of it, you really don't have adequate common sense to hold a license
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: charneus, i'll fix your wagon
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: farkyss im american, our licenses are easier than the brits
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Just, uh, don't ask for a carfax!
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: arismis hmn, excise tax or sales tax, or property tax?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arismis Tech: sales tax, assuming you are living in the U.S
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: would you buy a house without knowing how many rooms it had?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arismis Tech: private party sales tax is usually a lot lower
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i see
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: last car i bought it was 8%
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: or thereabouts
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arismis Tech: yeah... 8% of 30k is like $2400. tax from private party usually caps out at $1500
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: by yourself a toy car and spare us
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: farkyss, i cant, your mom is too expensive
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: arismis i didnt realize it had a cap, i will look it up at my dmv and state assurer's office websites
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: by the sounds of it, you couldn't recognise your own mom anyway
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: 5 yr old SLK's tend to go here for around $25,000
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: hmn really
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: thats pretty steep
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: not really
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: but since this one is 6 years old
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: (march of 03)
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: so like 6 and a half years old
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i guess that explains the value drops
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: 2003 models seem to fetch around $12-$15k
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: wow, wonder why its so cheap then
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: how cheap is it?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: a digit less than that
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it's almost certainly stolen then
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: but maybe the mileage is higher, i forgot to ask
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if it's under $10k, I guess it's possible it could just be high mileage, or be worn out in some way
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: but you know the mileage, of course :-)
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: no i forgot to ask
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: previous owners?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: not sure.
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: carfax says 7 records
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: so its possible
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you have the records for it now?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: no carfax says 7 records and to pay it 30$ to see them
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if you were contemplating spending nearly $10k on a used car, you'd have to be mental not to spend $20 on the report
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: a lot of records may just be service recalls, etc
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i wouldn't even spend $1000 on a used car in aprivate sale without paying for the insurance report
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: farkyss, insurance report?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I'd ask if the car has a free and clear title
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: well i'm assuming that's what this report is? A report containing whether it's got any outstanding HP agreements, whether it's been stolen ever, written off
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i dk, never had a carfax 'efore
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: the report that essentially tells you it's a legitimate car
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: oh the county sherrif can do that
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: your county sheriff can't tell you if it's got HP on it
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: he can tell me if its a legitimate car
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: he can tell if you if it's stolen or not
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: he can't tell if you it's still on HP
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: on hp?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: horsepower?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: hire purchase
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if it was bought on credit
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: oh, you mean ' lien'
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: the title has that printed on it in ink if it is under a lien
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if the previous owner bought the car on credit, sells it to you, then doesn't settle the credit, the credit company comes and repossesses what you think is yor car
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volvagia Tech: you could never get the title if it wasnt paid off
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: titles can be falsified
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: volvagia they give you the title when you buy the car
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: farkyss, how?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it's a bit of paper, vd
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: so is money.
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volvagia Tech: no, when you buy a car and there is a lien on the title you do not get the title, the bank does
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: volvagia i've never bought a bank, sorry
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volvagia Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: not if it's some dodgy geezer whose selling it for cash, volva
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: which this guy is given the impression of being
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volvagia Tech: then he should have the title in hand, which means its not a lien on the title
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volvagia Tech: I'm checking the vin here soon so I'll see whats up
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: farkyss no hes not dodgy, hes just a little less than honest, not scrupled, and tends to spend more time with his boyfriend than with anyone i know..
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: like when i call him or talk to him hes always distracted
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: its like hes always on vacation ...
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: and can't be bothered with any details
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: a little less than honest is a pretty fair definition of dodgy
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: but thats not making him dodgy
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: hes just more of one of those ' i don't really care types'
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: he's either honest or he isn't
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: disinterested maybe?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volvagia Tech: true
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: clueless?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: farkyss yeah hes not honest either
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if he's not honest, then he's dishonest
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: but its not like he's evil or anything.
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: eh? dishonest people -are- evil
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: by definition
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: farkyss sorry no...
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: they're just corrupt
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: erm
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: evil requires more passion.
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nonsense
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: lets use charles dickens 's david copperfield as our medium of argument
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: the only evil person in the book, was uriah heep... yes?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: no wonder americas in the crap state it's in if it's citizens think theres no parallel between dishonesty, corruption and evil
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: although he was not the only dishonest one?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: farkyss no parallel, no, take calculus, there is a corollary but not a parallel.
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i know what american calculus tuition is like, i don't need any lessons there. You shouldn't buy expensive stuff from dishonest people. It's a one way ticket to being ripped off
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: farkyss you get what you pay for though
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: if you pay less , you get less.
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: in your case, you could end up with paying for nothing
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: there's no rip off if i get what i pay for...
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: heh, if you pay $10k for a stolen car and then have it taken off you, you've been ripped off
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: farkyss if that happens i'll probably get even by tampering with his food and some laxative.
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude is cold'n'calculating maybe?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: doesn't sound like even remotely enough recompense for $10k
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i'd want the guy dead
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: general rule is, any deal that's too good to be true is.
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: farkyss wow really? but if he dies you cant get his money
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: farkyss besides i already know where he dwells
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: just go buy from a reputable dealer and you won't have the hassle
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: its not like you rip someone off who knows where you live, work, and own property, and you know that they know ...
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: you're supposed to rip off strangers
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: right?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you're not supposed to rip off anyone
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: oh ok
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: im from the usa, sorry
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: here its more of a way of life...
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: market's flooded with old SLK's over here at the moment
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: does that drop the prices?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: those for which money isn't an issue can afford brand new ones, and everyone else simply can't afford the excruciatingly high running costs
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: a little, VD
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: farkyss , high running costs?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: hence the sudden drop off in prices as they pass 3 yrs
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: yeah, it's a merc for gods sake
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i thought the german engineering of a benz was supposed to make it last longer and operate better?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: oh, they'll last forever, but the insurance premiums will be sky high, the servicing costs will be sky high, and they guzzle gas like there's no tomorrow
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: oh i don't get full coverage most the time
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: what do you mean servicing costs lol?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: like oil changes?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: when you go to have it repaired and such
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: its not heavy machinery, that means its user servicable
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: modern cars are not user serviceable
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: this isnt england, here if it has lights , brakes and so on the state lets us drive
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: we dont have all that state bureaucracy that you guys do
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if it hasn't been serviced regularly, it's not worth buying
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: farkyss i bought a car that hadnt been serviced for 3 years
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i changed out 60$ in stuff, and got some tires.
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: and its run fine ever since ...
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: its not shiny like this one is though
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you don't have all the beauracracy, you're also the most polluting country on the planet
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: yep, kyoto protocol is only for losers?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude pats Feral Farkyss on his head.
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: which is exactly the reason why everyone in the world hates you
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: farkyss, everyone, even japan?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: dude, japan and israel love usa... dont they?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: no
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: like without us japan would have no transistors at all
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: and israel wouldnt have all the cool white phosphorous bombs
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: they have to love us, we give them cool stuff
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude sobs in misery.
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: are you kidding? Japan can get all the transistors they want from S.Korea
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: drtoki really? i heard that usa gave japan the transistor patent
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: btw, wtf is this doing on tech anyways?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: transistors are a technological breakthrough
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: and therefore belong on tech
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: S.Korea has their own way of making transistors. Japan chose to deal with USA for political reasons
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: drtoki you mean that south korea could make trasnsistors when usa nuked nagasaki?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: I don't know historical facts, but the point is that they can make them now. 
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: k
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: what about the white phosphorous?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: I don't care for Isreal. Thus I never mentioned them
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: oh...?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: but dude they're at least one country that likes the usa right?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: so you are wrong when you say everyone hates us?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude wins.
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: does this have anything at all to do with technical issues?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i don't see how they like the usa when they threaten the usa infrastructure if the usa doesn't do what they say on news interviews
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: majic its based on the kyoto protocol and pollution, he claimed that usa was the biggest polluter
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: and pollution is an area of importance to technological industry, which is tech related?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: not really, no.
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: majic, you mean to say that pollution is not an area that technological industry views as important?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: 'k
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: 2 countries like you, the rest doesn't - if you consider that a victory, then fine.
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ewe.... error 999 from web server
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: and per capita, you are the most polluting, and the most consuming of all the worlds' countries
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: farkyss.... what does errror 999 mean?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: means he's dodgy, vd
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: my client says unknown status reply from server
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: why not spend your money on one of those new GM Volts, or a Prius?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: since you don't have proper diesel cars
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arismis Tech: oh man..... i finally got this plugin set up to work for gquests as well as cps...
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: the miniwindow?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arismis Tech: no, the look/scan thing
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arismis Tech: wait yeah... the look/scan thing in miniwindow
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i was thinking about the one that just  has the target list in miniwindow and updates as you go
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arismis Tech: oh, the consider all one?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arismis Tech: oh man... technically you can probably get that one to work too
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: naah its on the forums some where it is a list of your cp mobs in a miniwindow
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: when you kkill one it updates it
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arismis Tech: ohhhhh, ok, no, that one is kinda useless
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arismis Tech: just saves you some typing
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arismis Tech: how do i get mushclient to not display empty lines?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: You could match the line in a trigger then have it not send to output.
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arismis Tech: wasn't there an option to just not display empty lines?
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: there is a plugin but it just makes a trigger to match "^$" and omit from output
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: Yeah, that's basically the same thing.
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arismis Tech: i swear im not crazy, there's a configuration option to not display empty lines without a plugin
T1/r7/2009-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arismis Tech: i have it at work, just can't figure out how to do it at home
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: woah... newegg has 1.5TB drives onsale today for $99 US
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garenzo Tech: I have the AardMUSHclient, and was wondering if there is a way to limit chats specifically to the CHAT window, not the main window?
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: type chats echo off
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: chats echo off
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garenzo Tech: awesome! thanks a lot
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garenzo Tech: oh wow that is so much better lol, appreciate the quick response
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Gasp! Per ClamWin - C:\Users\Charneus\Downloads\Thunderbird Setup 2.0.0.23.exe: Trojan.Downloader-78259 FOUND -- that was direct from Mozilla's site. :(
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: heh, is it one of those installers that downloads the files from the server during install? :p
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Probably. Not sure. The new beta one wasn't detected as such. *shrug*
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Hmmm. Does anyone know what program was used to create the installer package for the Aard MUSH client?
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nullsoft
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: they made winamp too
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus thanks you heartily. 
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i just got a phone number from 10000000 , and it was some 'public survey for 2 all inclusive bahamas tickets'
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: is it common for a telemarketer for using that #?
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: You can make caller id show whatever you want
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: scammers, yes.
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: first time i ever seen that kind of # though
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Sneaky because you don't know which number to report to the Feds for violation.
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: usually it's a 1-888 or something
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: I'm sure its more to make you curious enough to pick up. If you really cared you could get the number from your phone company
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i wonder how innovative bill collectors can be
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: do you figure they'd use such methods to check if the other side is not pickin up phone?
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: bill collectors mush show their real number, according to fed law.
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: hopefully same in canada
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Google Voice -> Mark as spam.
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus loves Google Voice.
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: inorite? =o
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Just wish I could could Verizon to forward text messages.
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Heh. I give out my Google Voice number and have it forwarded to me.
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Too many people with the other number - not sure I want to send out the "HEY GAIZ THIS IS MY NEW NUMBEr" memo quite yet
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Would hate next week for like, Google to go OH HAI WERE CHARGING NOW or something
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: strange i wrote a component for foobar so i can remote control it from my phone and see what's playing from my phone which nice if mush is taking up all my desktop space.  anyway hadn't used it in a while and trying to use it and it's totally broken for some reason :(
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i think the only thing that's changed is the location of foobar2000 yet nowhere in my code do i make solid references to path, or at least none i can find
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: would anyone happen to know why %ansi(high,cyan) comes out as [0;56;40m insted of the color in cmud?
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: probably because you have it backwards
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: oh, you're getting that literally?  Maybe check to see if you have ANSI enabled?
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: ah ha i figured out my problem.  i was stupidly looking at the code for the plugin, not the code for the server my phone talks to.
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: ya it is
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: what version, Hadar?  It's working ok for me
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: 2.37
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: might be a bug fixed in the beta.
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: bah too much lua scripting.  my c++ syntax is terrible now
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}#/bin/bash Isildur Tech: what r u coding with lua?
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i hope it's a script that helps retards with spelling
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}#/bin/bash Isildur Tech: i fear c++
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: recently i've been trying to perfect a quest timer that pops up a little window and show's a little pie illustrating quest time.  but now i'm trying to fix my music player remote 
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: c++ isn't that bad
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i really like it actually
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i'm not too happy trying to fix a program using sockets though :(
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}#/bin/bash Isildur Tech: i can't afford pointers and objects at the same place in my mind :P
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: lol, i'm guessing you love java?
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: do you guys have any info on how the quest timer rounds to the tick, like at which point does it round to
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}#/bin/bash Isildur Tech: not that much... i don't like the fact that in java you must build a "proton canon" to kill an ant :P but i'm currently working with C#
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: anyone have a good site to start reading up on lua programming?
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: lua.org
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: #/bin/bash Isildur is agreeing with that Sikai person again...
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: c++ isn't bad, but some c++ programs are the craziest things I've ever seen
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: http://lua-users.org/wiki/TutorialDirectory
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: and I hate pretty much anything with stl vectors.
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: ya i'll agree some c++ programs love to obvuscate everything
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: programmers rather
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: could be worse.  Perl obfuscation is an art form.
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: what's wrong with vectors
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: bleh don't even talk to me about perl
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: the only good thing that came out of that is regexps
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: I hate how you have to pass the start and end to every silly little function. Also, whoever decided to overload ++ should be shot
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}#/bin/bash Isildur Tech: perl is good, but i don't look it so useful
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: it's good when you need to work with tons of text, not so good at anything else
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: I used perl as my mudclient scripting language. It isn't something I'd want to do anything large with
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}#/bin/bash Isildur Tech: basic stuff only
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: I order pizza with perl
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}#/bin/bash Isildur Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: ya it'd be great with mudclient scripting.  personally i prefer lua just for it's simplicity, and simple sintax
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: syntax rather
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: no joke.
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}#/bin/bash Isildur Tech: really?
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: yes. google pizza_party perl script
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: I've never used lua. All my scripting is python-based
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: I modified it to work with additional pizza chains
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: that's awesome
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: python is neat too, i still prefer lua
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: they're fairly similiar really
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}#/bin/bash Isildur Tech: i like python security, don't know very well about lua security stuff
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: python probably has some better libraries
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}#/bin/bash Isildur Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: hrm... perhaps i should be working with python...
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: pythons libraries are almost ridiculous
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: ya...
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: now that i think about it
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i think i really just wanted an excuse to get aquainted with lua
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: there's been programs i've wanted to add scripting too and thought lua might be the one
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: lua looks nice, i've never had the need for it though. I only got into python because of django
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: lua's string library is so retarded
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: and their pattern matching isn't very well documented
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: it's also easy to figure out what the best language is.  Learn several.  The one you use the most is the best language for you.
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: hrm well i think that's mission for tonight is to get reaquainted with python and write some scripts
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: are you doing this scripting for a mudclient?
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: mush
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: that was a big part of doing scripts in lua was because all nick's plugins are written in lua
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: is mushclient available for linux? I'm using tt++, and wanna try out the seperate window thing
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I can write python.  Ssssseee, thissss isssss python.  *nod ssssself*
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}#/bin/bash Isildur Tech: actually there's not "the best language is"... there is the language that fit better the problem that needs to be solved hehehe
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: you can run mush through wine i know
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I'm running MUSHclient on Ubuntu right now.
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: yeah, but I don't hate myself
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: tt++ > mush
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i've never looked into tt++ but heard it was giving some people headaches
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: only warning is that Lua is the only supported scripting language through wine.  I got jscript to work once, after about two weeks of trying to get the right dlls to load.
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}#/bin/bash Isildur Tech: even gnome-mud is better than tt++ IMO...
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: if you are used to dealing with consoles, its very nice. 
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: ya i can navigate my way around a console
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: I especially like being able to edit triggers/aliases/whatev outside of the client. I've never seen a mudclient IDE that didn't make me want to strangle someone
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: I have never used a GUI mud client that didn't make me want to strangle someone
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: does it really run seamlessly through wine?
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I don't have any issues running it through wine.  Just set it to win98 compatability mode.
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: and you can edit triggers in the .mcl and plugin files.  It's just xml.  I do it all the time in vi or Crimson Editor.
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arismis Tech: if someone can build a plugin with an iwuvaard connection that'd be stellar
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=8400 describes how to get python working with mush in wine
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: I've often thought of making a tt++ trigger/alias that opens up maps for me. I figure if I lurk long enough, someone will show me where they already did it though
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arismis Tech: is there an ODBC connector in mushclient?
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arismis Tech: campaigns would be 10 times easier with iwuvaard access
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: For when you just get room names?
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arismis Tech: yeah
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: Usher: just save all the map images from the clan sites and use the #run command to open them
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: i've got a tt++ alias that downloads and opens maps from the light clan website
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: Really? Could I get that from you?
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: it uses python though
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: I have python installed, and I'm pretty sure I could make it work
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: is there a way to access plugin variables from a trigger in mush?
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: getpluginvariable
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: blech, guess I just have to figure out why it's not working then.
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: urwin did you do ' require "var" ' somewhere in the plugin's script?
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: then any variables you want to access need to be "var.<whatever>"
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: assuming you're writing lua
T1/r7/2009-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: err, I'm in a trigger, trying to refer to a variable defined/exposed in a plugin.  I wanna do something like "if plugin var is greater than a number then do this".
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: is there a way to copy/paste color codes in cmud like there was in zmud
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: suppose i wanted to have an alias do the following: remove my dual, wear a portal, enter, then if on that enter attempt get magic walls...attempt to recall? this is in mush
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: or more generally within an alias, attempt to execute a command and depending on return message, maybe exectutes other commands
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: in mush 4.33, child windows are referred to as worlds?
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Is there a windows equivlent to cron?
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: windows scheduler 
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: or something like that
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Thank you much
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: Task Scheduler in accessories
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: start -> programs -> accessories -> system
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Scheduled tasks.. handy. Any idea if thats present in Vista, 7, and WHS as well? I'd assume so, but not sure
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's 'scheduled tasks' in there
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: may have moved or renamed, but the functionality exists
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: vista for sure, 7 most certainly since it's based on vista
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: WHS might have something different
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ah, smallest occurance is daily, it seems
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, you can go smaller daloran
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Not in XP
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, in xp
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go with daily, then when you get to the end, it will give more options
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we have xp machines running scripts every 5 mins in scheduled tasks
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It asks to specify a time, but no reptition
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to the end...trust me
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: under advanced
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the wizard sucks...you just want to get "something" there before manually setting stuff up
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ahhhh, gotcha.
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: What would you run every 5 minutes? =p
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I usually don't even choose the program I want to run...just click the first thing to get past the "next" screens
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then once it's in the list, when you edit it you have all the options available
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: watchdog processes...making sure a service is still running on a client, making sure clients still exist on the network, etc
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: in vista, i have two options, create basic task, or just create task, one is the wizard and one is just the normal edit window
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Handyhandy
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, if I ever remember to use that route, xp gives both options as well
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to file -> new -> scheduled task...no wizard
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: double-click the "add scheduled task"...wizard
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: is it possible to turn off autopositioning for a miniwindow in mush?
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: yup
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: read the documentation
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: hmm, I made the appropriate changes earlier but they weren't doing anything.
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: urdoinitrong then
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: do I have to remove and re-add the plugin every time I want to make a change?
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Twice, in fact.
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: err, why twice?
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: some plugins you can just "reinstall"
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: in your plugin menu
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Just to make sure it sticks, of course.
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: assuming much
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Once just isn't enough
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: mush
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: ok i haven't fooled with a spreadsheet in a long time...how do i set it so when i c/p a formula it holds a particular variable still and doesn't change rows with me?  if it matters i am doing this on google docs
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i'm assuming they are taking excel syntax here though
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i'm doing my best to find some sort of documentation there but it is sparse and i apparently have no idea what keywords i'm looking for
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i know this is trivial stuff but i honestly haven't fooled with this in ages
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Livonya Tech: try $e$4 or similar syntax or look up documentation of references...
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: So, whats this about punching a well in the moon?
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Godsmack Tech: someone point me to a MUSH spellup script? i cant seem to spellup others with this one or change the order of spells to my liking
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: stop licking your monitor!
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Godsmack Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: What one is "this one" that you speak of?
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Godsmack Tech: the inbuilt MUSH one..i downloaded the client from the aardwolf site
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: would anyone happen to know why this will not work in cmud, if i take out the #if it works perfectly though #trigger {%s(*)%sMana:%s%d%sLearned:%s(%D)*} {#if (raclevel <= %2) {#say %1 %2}}
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: %if ?
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: just guessing
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i figured it out i had %D insted of %d
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: anyone have a good moons plugin
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: for mush
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: any way i can stop altgr from activating the menu bar in zmud? i need to use it for something else
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: is there a way to move a miniwindow to a different world in mush?
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: its not uncommon for a single family to be paying 2-3k for healthcare per month
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: miss
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: would you rather have our system fark?
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: clearly i'm tired -- mis
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: mcp is like gzip deflate on a website, it compresses output from the mud thus lesses the strain on the server
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: mccp*
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: anyone got color syntax to work in cmud? (using beta 3.10)
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i just installed a bunch of Atreidess' scripts.. and the one where you get extra info agter typing gr... says I have no tiers.  how do I fix that?  anyone know?
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: lvlset 
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: lset level remort tier
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Er, yeah, lvlset.
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod, lvlset level remort tier
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: You know, you can type 'lvlhelp' for more options. ;)
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: GO TEAM VENTURE
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus goes back to setting up the router with the computer...
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daloran goes back to installing his video card with a brick.
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: oh wow, i just accidently hit win+tab instead of alt+tab in windows 7, i totally forgot about that feature
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: what's that?
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It's like alt tab, with the aero interface.
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: My middle-click is set for that.
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: It's 3D flip.
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Allows you to actually SEE the screen you're tabbing to.
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: could be useful for those progs that don't name their windows...
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Or when you have several windows open from one program. :)
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: alt-tab gave you the name anyway...that's how I tell in xp...
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus chuckles politely.
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: maybe I'm just too into efficient use of memory and processor to really appreciate all the pretty stuff they've been adding to Windows releases lately. :/
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Out of 2GB of RAM, with firefox, CMUD, thunderbird, yahoo, feeddemon, among a few other programs, I'm only using 41% of it, with Aero enabled. :P
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: "Only 41%" ... I think you need to reevaluate =p
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: meh, that's not too bad.
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Not too bad for a 2GB system, Daloran. :P
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: 800mb of ram for mud, webbrowse, email, and rss reader... is pretty bad
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: im realy loving windows 7
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Daloran: Firefox is using up 100MB right now. CMUD 102MB. Thunderbird is uing 24M, Yahoo 22, and goes on down from there. :P
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Airuk Tech: In cmud, is it possible to programmatically toggle button visibility? I can't seem to find a button property that controls this. But I could just be blind.
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: If you were blind, you wouldn't be concerned with button visibility.
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chicomecoatl nods at Daloran.
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: what do you mean, visibility?
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: if you just want it to disappear, disable it
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: if he were blind, i would doubt he'd be mudding
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Umm, alot if VI people mud.
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: there's lots of blind people that play muds actually
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Sikai, yeah... theres a good number here =p
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: well my mistake then
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: Sikai, I have 3 VI players on my flist.
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: sounds rough tho
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: if you wanted to totally remove the button from the display, I believe you can name it and use the #T+/#T- to enable/disable.  If you just want it to grey out, I believe %btnenable() has been fixed to actually do the greyout instead of the there/not-there stuff.
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: there are even VI maps out for some areas, Sikai.
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Airuk Tech: well toggling enabled doesn't make the button dissapear it just disables it. but that'll have to do. thanks :)
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i thought those were VI as in like VIM editor
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Visually Impaired, good sir.
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: shows what i know
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: nope, not vi editor, but VI as in visually impaired
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: toggling enabled makes it disappear for me...
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: well i hope i didn't offend anyone or anything
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Only the Amish, Sikai. Only the amish.
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: nah, and if you're curious, there's a help VI techfile
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Though I do feel bad, I recall someone pranking one of the blind players with ascii art in their manor.... =o
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: actually, several...
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: oh, yeah, the top one on Daoine's quotes... with the big ascii penis drawing
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: they have it on the daoine website
T1/r7/2009-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: http://www.daoinesidhe.org/quotes/?3874 
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: can i make a script in mush that just contains aliases and triggers and has no actual script?
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: yah, just change it so send "to execute"
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: anyone use luasocket with mush, or just luasocket for that matter
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naya Tech: Why does writing physics lab reports feel like trying to download the human genome project on a 1994 internet connection?  I suspect Newton didn't have to put up with this BS.
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I heard Newton published his findings.
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: In a report-like way.
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: he probably wrote the reports without having to be instructed to do so 
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naya Tech: the principia does not at all resemble what I'm being asked to do :p
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i can't seem to get mushclient to recognize python is installed or something
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i get Error -2147221005 occurred when finding CLSID of scripting language "python"
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: ... this makes negative sense to me... error message [string "Trigger: "]:30: ')' expected near '='
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: how could a ) ever belong near a =?
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: also every ( is paired correctly with a )
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i have no idea whats wrong (if anyone wants to take a look i'll put it in a sharefile
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: holy crap i finally not only got python working with Mush but got MySQLdb working
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: yay!
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i'm just a job skip and a jump from having leet access to iwuvaad database
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: hop, skip and a jump*
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: although i'll take a job too
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: seconded.
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: holy crap everything works
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sikai points excitedly at someone's crotch!
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: anyone know how i get scripting callbacks like OnPluginInstall for Python in MUSH?
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: nevermind i'm stupid and wasn't paying attention to error
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: I'm trying to play stuff off my USB on my dvd player (which has USB play) and the dvd can't seem to find the file
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: probably not the right format
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: the file is in divx which is also supported by the player. I could play divx files if it's in a dvd
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: usb pen formatted correctly
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: ?
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: hhmm how do I check
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: usual format for usb pens is FAT, you'd normally check on your pc, right click on the drive and go to properties, should tell you
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: yeah file system is FAT
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: is that the right format?
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: should be
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: could be folder system and if the USB is securedata?
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: try reformatting without security, and just having the file in the root of the drive
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i.e without folders
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: security software will stop it from working
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: how do I do that ... as in reformat without security?
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: nod 
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: right click, format
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: make sure you back up the stuff on it first, cos formatting will wipe it
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: ok ... trying
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: reformating removes the security application and the launcher?
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: should do, ye
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: still no file
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: out of ideas then, unless it's got a stricter subset of filetypes it can read from a usb pen compared to a dvd
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: i am confused now
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: doesnt' make sense
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: how do I convert divx files back to .avi
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: hhmm didn't work .. 
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: %key!=@var -> using zmud, @var is a string list, anyone know how to make that eval against the items in the list and not the whole list ?
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: !%ismember
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: thanks :)
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: hi ... my dvd player supports USB but it says no file when I plug in my usb ... I think it's partition problem. Does anyone know how I can fix it
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: does anyone know if it makes a difference whether or not I use DVD-RW or DVD+RW to copy files to be played on my DVD player
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: check which format your dvd player supports
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: or burn both..and see if they work
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: how do I know from the player? 
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: check the manual
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: also sometimes written on the device
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: what's the difference between -r and +r
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zomfg Zoranth shrugs helplessly.
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: Anybody know how to get/calculate the weeknumber in c/zmud?
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: first, what do you mean by "week number"
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: 1-52, the current week of the year
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: to do so would require cmud to accept input externally... for instance to read the clock on your pc. If it does, I haven't heard about it.
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: sure it can, %time
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: . o O (  ) Habasi is agreeing with that Myrmidon Myrkul person again...
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: there you go
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: there's a %time function, but return week
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: but that doesn't show the week number...
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: but it doesn't return*
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: and neither does windows clock
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: you might have better luck posting in the zuggsoft forms
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: yeah, probably have to use some com script or dde
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: it's definitely doable without that
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: given the month and day you could script some math to evalate those two to a week ##
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: but that would change from year to year
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: . o O (  ) Habasi is agreeing with that Semper Flat person again...
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: only on leap years
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: I believe if you look at consecutive year calendars you'll find that 10 Oct falls on different days of the week... hence the calculation would drift over the course of years
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: %time has an option for day name, name + numeric date + month is all you need to get to week ##
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: hmm...see what you're saying
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: 968 is fun also
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: there are only so many possible combinations of 1-7 and Sun-Sat. even though the %time week option isn't there it is scriptable if you want it
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: it's possible to calculate the day of the week of january first for any given year...
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: . o O (  ) Habasi nods at Myrmidon Myrkul.
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: read up some on the week thing, there's an ISO (8601) that makes it easier, the week that holds january 4th is week 1 of the year :)
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: eh?
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: sounds typically arbitrary
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: Hi, does anyone know why my client overall window 'slips' down the screen when i switch between internal windows (I'm on a Mac, runnin the client using Wine)?
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: define client
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: I'm running the recommended client from the Aard home page
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: define define
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: mushclient, zmud, cmud?
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: mushclient
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: ok, then it's Lasher's window auto-positioning script that spooks I think, I don't use Mush myself, but there's some "auto-figuring-out" for best windows sizes etc.
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(UNWANTED) Candor Tech: Which is the best player to use when viewing avi movies?
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: imho vlc
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: vlc ftw
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(UNWANTED) Candor Tech: Danke!
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: bitte schvn
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chosig hopes he got it right...
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Feral Farkyss SMACKS (UNWANTED) Candor upside the head, wonder what he did.
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marzian Tech: can the auto-positioning be toggled?
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: wonder why this pesky wifi card is being such an arse
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Squeeky Kroz Tech: is there a way to create a button to the search function in zmud map?
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: creating a button is the irrelevent part, but you can try using the #MENU command.  When you use the #MENU command, zmud tries to match its own menus before looking to player-made ones
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: it might not work for the mapper menus, however
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: keep in mind that to reference the zmud menu system you need to type in the full path to the option you want.
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Squeeky Kroz Tech: nevermind, i'll figure it out myself:)
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: is there a resource explaining the interface for muchclient plugins in terms of what functions (onPluginInstall, etc) to supply and stuff?
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Godsmack Tech: someone give me a link for the newest version for the MUSH client configured to aard specs?
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Godsmack Tech: or i have to add plugins to it?the one at the site doesnt let me "spellup <other>"
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umbrae Tech: Anyone have any recommendations for a good MUD client for the mac? I looked on aardwolf.com/play/index.htm but it doesn't have much in the way of information for macs.
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for most people using Macs, I'd recommend downloading the MUSHclient installer from www.aardwolf.com/blog, and running that under parallels, fusion, or darwine
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umbrae Tech: Abelinc: Alright. I've got parallels set up, so I guess that works. Thanks.
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Godsmack Tech: anyone here?
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: nope
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Godsmack Tech: got a newbie question
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: there's an app for that.
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: ask away
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Try newbie channel?
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Godsmack Tech: Spell named 'sanctuary' does not exist.Spellups list contains or or more problems. List not changed.
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Godsmack Tech: and i cant understand how to add any new ones :S
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what URL did you get that spellup script from?
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Godsmack Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?id=8780
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Godsmack Tech: yey worked
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: neat i just accidently printed every mob in aard into my main window
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HighFive Tech: anyone know howto make the mushclient _replace_ a line that the mud sends with another message that has been defined by the user, that is, not only omitted from output but send somthing else (as an echo)
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: sub, I think
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HighFive Tech: sub?
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: do you mean the MUD command Echo or just a trigger to replace text from the MUD?
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HighFive Tech: a trigger - i wanbt to prevent spam and replace all battlepam with the message 'New round'
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Give 'help damage' a try if combat is too spammy.
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have you checked out "help spamreduce" for a start?
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i don't think that's what he's looking for
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: if you make a trigger to match this spam and Omit it then set the Send To to Output you can put what ever you like to replace it
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: he doesn't want to turn off his bprompt, he just wants to replace it
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sikai, it's not what he's asking, but it may fit what he's trying to do...
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: forget the trigger, change you bprompt
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Well, the command for that is 'bprompt'
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: what Abe and Startling said
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: w/e combination of those things should do
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HighFive Tech: i tried that, it omitted the text i put there too! There must be a way, i am sure, i am just too inexperienced with the client
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: did you try teh other suggestions, the MUD commands to reduce spam 'help spam'?
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: highfive try "echo <whatever>"
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: that should omit your command but echo what you said
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: 'help spamreduce' I should say
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HighFive Tech: i'll do that, thanks for advice
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: Sikia echo is bad idea for this, it's sending a msg to the MUD and the MUD just sends it back
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: you could just change your bprompt too
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: well the way i would do it is just send to script then world.note("whatever")
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: but that's a bit more technical
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bprompt isn't the spam from the combat...
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bprompt is just your prompt while you're fighting
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: well then i've completely misunderstood the question
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: setting the trigger to Send To: Output should do exactly that with what ever you put in the send box
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he gets too much "stuff" when fighting...he wants to reduce it
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what exactly is the stuff?
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: too many bprompts?
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't get more than one...
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i have 8
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no you don't
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sikai bursts into tears.
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Abe is envious.
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: too many as in it repeatedly showing
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to understand what bprompt is, type "auto" & look at the bottom
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: no bpromt no bpromt at all...
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: only time it'll repeatedly show is if you're just hitting enter repeatedly
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: no, it shows every round
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: battle spam was the problem
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes. once.
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i think he wants to reduce that?
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: redryn, go start a fight
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how much of the crap you see is your prompt?
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: none, i gag it all.
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's insignificant
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn pats you on your head. 
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's what he's asking
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so pay attention or catch up
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: whatever, you didn't get the point
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: and he's not responding anymore anyway
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, I got the point, you missed
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and if you gag your entire prompt...why not simply not have it
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's an entire waste of a gag
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i use the output as a static display, so i only see one line all the time.
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i don't see a line * how many rounds
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: which does make a big difference in spam
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: your output is just a single line...
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HighFive Tech: i am not intresting in weather i NUKE or DISEMPOLISH someone, i am much more intrested in  seeing if my trig for <wield weapon> worked..  in the long run i am planning to have stats for the fight also (how many rounds for each mob, how much damage i make and so on...
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: his output is a non-scrolling line
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Change to damage 2, then.
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Oh, playing on a phone?  That's his own damned fault.
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: how's that supposed to work
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: shouldn't be a phone when he's asking how to do something in MUSH
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: something like what the aardclient does?
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it's got that hp bar and stuff at the bottom
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: not sure what else it shows, but all my bprompt output goes to the bar
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: do you just have like the current room description and stuff in another window
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HighFive Tech: yeah, something like that
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: highfive, try the damage command, battlespam, groupspam & nospam...
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then if you're still bothered by the amount of text, gag that text, and use just your prompt as indicator of when each round starts
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HighFive Tech: prolly thats what i do, trying to live with only a prompt 
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: set up a bunch of triggers to gag combat rounds and just copy the output from bprompt then, (gagging it after that)
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no need to copy or gag that output...can change it to be the text you want
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: pretty sure he wants it to be a non-scrolling one.
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: his goal is to know when he's getting a prompt...the status bar graphs don't help with that
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yes they do, you'll see stuff change :p
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HighFive Tech: quite right?
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: only if it changes
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: stuff doesn't always change every round
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it should.
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no it shouldn't
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so dealing/receiving 0 damage should be normal?
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it can be, yes
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: no it's not normal.
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and your bprompt doesn't tell how much damage you deal
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes it is
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it happens, rarely.
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go fight barney...you deal "0" damage according to anything in your bprompt...how much damage do you take?
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yes it does, you'll see enemy health change
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: only if it changes 1% or more
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn shrugs helplessly.
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I guess you've never fought immune MOBs...
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: my last damage dealt is captured anyway
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yours is...however what you described to highfive wouldn't do that
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what you're recommending then is to gag nothing
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: which is what he's not looking for
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I recommended gagging quite a bit
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nice to see you reading
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yes, pity i can't read anything good :(
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I recommended leaving *one* thing not gagged, and gagging the rest, because that accomplishes 100% of his goals, which your recommendation did not
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Just get zmud and #GAG *
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you recommend leaving bprompt on, and gagging combat rounds, correct?
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so, what advantages does that have over my suggestion of capturing bprompt seperately?
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you still won't see immune mobs or anything
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: except a wall of bprompts
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because capturing it separately, and displaying it as you recommended, does not show when bprompt actually omes
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which mine does
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which is why his original request was to turn combat messages into a single line of "new round"
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bprompt new round = done
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you can tell when bprompt comes when the bar updates.
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if it doesn't update, what you recommend isn't any help either.
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we've already established that that is not correct, red
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not true at all red
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so if you're fighting barney, what difference does yours make?
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you've established nothing :p
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I see that there was a new bprompt
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yup
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't, with what you suggested
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i can know that in approximately 3 seconds there has been no change
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hahaha, so your recommendation is a stopwatch?
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: lol, you can't even estimate 3 seconds without a watch?
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Just play the game by rolling your face across the keyboard.  You don
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: 't have to read at all.
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Just do that and see how it goes.  You'll be fine.
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: whatever, i change my recommendation to have a more comprehensive bar, including last damage. then mine > yours
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, mine was exactly what he requested...
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: totally :)
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yours is a fine solution for you, and is WAY overkill for him and his abilities
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but it'd be great if you posted a plugin to the gammon forums to do it for him :-)
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: don't use mush, heh
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guessingo Tech: i am using hte msuh client, but the only chat that appears in the chat window is the newbie chat
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guessingo Tech: oh wait. this is there
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: it's been a long time since i worked with python and i'm having a hell of a time
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i have a function that returns a tuple
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: then use Lua
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i want edit the tuple, but tuples are immutable so i'm converting it to a list
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: yet when i try list.append(whatever) it says 'tuple' has no attribute append
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i delared the list like list = [whatever, whatever],
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guessingo Tech: why was lua chosen for this game? I went ot the lua site and it looks like world of warcraft uses it. why is it good for games?
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: do i need an extra set of brackets or what
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: and lua sucks, python libraries are far superior
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i'm just having a hard time with the list/tuple syntax
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: ah ha i figured it out, i need an extra set of brackets
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Anyone know how to change what symbols tintin uses for grouping? The mud uses { and } too much, and i was wondering if i could make tintin recognize something different to group with.
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Or, an alternative would be, how do i make it NOT recognize { as a grouping symbol for the scripts. My statmon script will trigger, but it puts an extra curly bracket in my stat output and i can't get rid of it.
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: escape it
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: If i escape it then it reads my wildcards as literals
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: This is my trigger -- #ACTION {{stats}%1/%2,%3/%4,%5/%6,%7/%8,%9/%10,%11/%12,%13,%14,%15,%16,%17,%18,%19,%20/%21,%22/%23,%24/%25,%26,%27,%28,%29,%30,%31,%32} -- and its triggers, but the output isn't right.
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: This is my trigger -- #ACTION {{stats}%1/%2,%3/%4,%5/%6,%7/%8,%9/%10,%11/%12,%13,%14,%15,%16,%17,%18,%19,%20/%21,%22/%23,%24/%25,%26,%27,%28,%29,%30,%31,%32} -- and its triggers, but the output isn't right.
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Shoot, i bet its outputting that and still gagging it..
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Did i just spam you guys with that message?
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: just a bit
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: yes :)
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Sorry, i didn't even know it was sending.
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: And this (next message) is the output
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Stats: Str[}185/105] Int[303/194] Wis[94/65] Con[155/129] Dex[118/70] Luck[118/73] DR[265] HR[240]
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i should write an auto anti-spam script where if you write too much text too soon, you get ignored for a set amount of time
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: anchor it at the beginning but not the end ;-)
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: what is the output when you escape it? #action {{stats} etc }
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: See, in Str i have a }
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: if i escape it, then it doesn't trigger because it looks for the literal {stats}%1blahblahblah
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: what client, again?
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: tintin
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have you tried {~{stats~} blah?
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: why would it?  #action {\{stats\} etc } escapes only the braces and not the variables
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Abe: I tried to anchor it and it quit triggering completely
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: the \ symbol escapes until a space.
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I tend to use regexp rather than client-specific trigger patterns, and then can use character class/ranges instead of escaping...[{]stats[}]
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: {stats} is at the beginning of the line, so anchoring it there shouldn't prevent it from firing
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: #act {^{stats}blah -- now i see statmon again, so its not gagging it, so i assume its not triggering.
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: wait..did you change it, or were you just testing by putting that in the channel?
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: I changed it.
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: if you changed it, it wouldn't have triggered because you've told it to only trigger at start of line.
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: er
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I think he means he changed it, hit enter, and saw his statmon live
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: sorry misinterpreted that
T1/r7/2009-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chicomecoatl nods at you in agreement. 
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Hmm.
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, the lack of successfully escaping the {}s may also be playing a part in the anchor issue
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: This time when i did #act {\{stats\}balh it worked this time
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you try tilde to see if that'd work for escape?
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You snicker softly.
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: It wouldn't before...
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: So now try combining the escaping and the anchoring...
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: see :)
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: oh wait! I did #act {\{stats} before.
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it knew I was watching
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You backhand Chicomecoatl's forehead and say, "DOH!"
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: nod, combo works.
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Thanks guys, that friggin bracket was annoying me.
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so now you should be able to paste an entire stats line to grouptalk and have it NOT gagged
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Nod, just tested.
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cool beans :-)
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Thanks guys.
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: is there a way to change numpad binds from script in mush
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Hmm, i think i did that when i used it, i don't remember how though.
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: i think it was in one of the settings, they have settings already and you just change what they do.
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i'll RTFM, good enough to know there's probably a way before digging
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: I know in tintin you just do #macro {<insert numkey hex code here>} {<insert function>}
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: if it helps, zmud works pretty well in wine
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: is there a way to change the volume of midi, if so easiest way?
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: midi file that is
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: midi is just sheet music, iirc
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: was afraid of that
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i guess i could just lower the sound of mushclient and edit my wav file volume
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: in mush, is there a way to print to output in 2 different colors on the same line?
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyreens Tech: I would think so
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: ColourTell
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: brilliant worked perfectly
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: In tintin, anyone know of a way to use the #format command to strip ALL spaces from a variable, instead of just leading and trailing?
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: wouldn't regex be the way to do that?
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ceast Tech: ok, so I'm using mushclient on wine on a linux machine...and the helpfiles crash my client
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: well done
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: if they're .chm, won't you need the HTML Help component thingy
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ceast Tech: I get an error that I get with some other programs on wine
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ceast Tech: HTML help component thingy   <- please elaborate
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ceast Tech: alternatively, are the helpfiles all on the website somewhere? the wiki has alot, but not everything
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: http://code.google.com/p/htmlhelp/wiki/HHW4Wine
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: this HTML help component thingy
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: hmm, actually that's the html help creator
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: but still, it might help with displaying the help too
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: this page might be helpful also http://code.google.com/p/htmlhelp/wiki/CHM
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ceast Tech: thank you, I am not the computer brain in my household, but I'll put him to work on it tonight'
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyreens Tech: when you're making a trigger in MUSH, if you use a wildcard how much info gets parsed through that?
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyreens Tech: Does it skip everything until the trigger text itself?
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: anyone attempt to use bast's broadcast_area plugin
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: is there a ardwolf soundpack for monkey term?
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: would anyone happen to know where i can download a windows 98 os?
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Is there a way to change the temperatures at which my laptop's fans start, other than using a program to start them manually?
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I'm using a program to control them manually right now.  My laptop gets really hot, to the point that it can be uncomfortable even through clothing.  Keeping the fans on high prevents that.
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: You really shouldn't keep your laptop on clothing if it gets that hot
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: pick up a cheap laptop cooling plate
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It's just the normal operating temperature.  It's not burning up or anything, but the bottom does get quite warm.
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's usually a function of the laptop's BIOS...some may have accessible bits via some API, but it's pretty much just trying to google that brand laptop for someone making a tweak hack
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I do have a cooling pad, which I use when I'm at my desk.  Putting on my lap interferes with its fans.
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can use just a composition notebook or even a flattened cardboard box as an insulator
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Abe - so in other words, just go with the simple route and manually turn them on high? 
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: give the fans a good blow out with an air-line, too
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but of course that's something else to carry around if you plan to use it on your lap when away
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Starling nods at you in agreement. 
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: There's probably a reasonable chance it's all controlled via ACPI, so you could theoretically compile and load a custom DSDT.  But that's likely a lot more trouble than it's worth.
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: always thought it bizarre that laptops dont' work well on laps
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: The ducts are clear of dust AFAIK, but perhaps another internal dusting might be in order, since it's been a while.
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: if it's a dell, you could try using I8kfanGUI to control the fans
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Starling nods at Feral Farkyss.
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I know, I learned this early on and was confused.
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my dell d830 almost never uses its fan unless I'm running an old program that doesn't let the power control stuff have full control
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: That's exactly what I'm using, Lywryn.
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: my armada m300 doesn't run it's fan much either
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and it's almost always on my lap
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I even let it run sitting directly on the bed
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: for the msot part it depends where the vents are, if they'er on the bottom, you don't want it sitting on your bed
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I'm using a Dell Inspiron 2650.  Should've saved more and got the 8200, but alas, my college student budget at the time wouldn't allow it :(
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: I use it to force the fans to high because my dells bios doesn't do a very good job of cooling it
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: what on earth possessed you to get a dell, anyway?
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: the 2650 has a fan issue. I have one as well.
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: What issue does it have?
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're not using high-processor stuff, see if the bios has a setting to let the processor slow down
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that will save battery and drop heat production noticeably
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: The processor slows to 1200 MHz when it's running lightly.
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: pick up a cheap laptop cooler and set it under your laptop--makes a huge difference.
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: laptop design generally could be far far better than it is right now
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: mine has a actual video card in it, so that's why mine runs hot
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: laptops ain't designed for games
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: nope, they're primarily designed for business and presentations. :p
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: any decent video card is going to double the power consumption and heat output of a laptop
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I assume gaming laptops tend to heat up a lot, then?
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: yup
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: xps gaming laptop starts at like 1500
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: from dell
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: the really good ones come from like alienware
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: running into the 10k mark
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: stick to alienware
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: alienware are made by dell these days, so they're all a bit crap
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: AVA direct ftw
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if you want a games machine, build a desktop
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: What's with Dell these days, anyway?  Didn't they use to be one of the better brands?
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: not really
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: But all I hear nowadays is that Dells are bad.
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: just big
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: they do alot of corporate contracts/leasing computers for a few years
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: that's how they got so big
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: Somewhere along the line, they decided they could make bad machines for cheap and just give good business discounts
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: my desktop's motherboard went out, so I got to use my laptop for the time being
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're good for corporate/government/enterprise, and they've always had a big difference in quality between their pro lines & consumer lines
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for corporate, they've traditionally made up in warranties/support what they lacked in true quality
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Which brand isn't crap, as far as consumer laptops go?
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Not that it helps right now, but I'm going to get a new one eventually.
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: apple ;-)
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: they quite commonly use dodgy selling practices, misleading advertsing, and annoying bespoke parts in their consumer kit
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: not dell
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: look at Jetbook or Lenovo
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: higher end asus, sony
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Apple is out, can't stand them.
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You snicker softly.
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gundam Wing Tech: lenovo is good for a chinese company
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, it's a spun off IBM
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: asus makes really good motherboard.. I'll assume their laptops are good
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if you avoid the budget ranges, yes
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: yeah, budget laptops will almost always screw you.
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for laptops, get the extended warranty...if they offer one, get the "accidental damage" warranty
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: laptop extended warranties are a must
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: desktop warranties, not worth it
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: lol, true
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: laptop hdd goes down, can replace it, mobo goes down, or socket gets broken, basically throw it away and start again
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: has any other company started using the magnetic power couplings like the Macbooks?
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: no
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: doesn't need to be magnetic, just user-replacable instead of soldered direct - i've seen a few more expensive toshiba models that do that, but even they've stopped now in favour of a "if it breaks, buy a new laptop" method
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can't count how many power connectors I've had to resolder, that was a brilliant change
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: built in redundancy
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: how much time and effort would it have saved if you could've swapped out the connector under a flap like the hdd, abe?
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it likely just would've changed where the break point was
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i've been replacing a lot of lappy screens recently, i blame kids
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, you mean you need to push on BOTH corners of the screen when you open it?
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: isn't so much that, they just chuck them around
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: they're not toys, think we shoudl outlaw the sale of laptops to kids under 16
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mom buys, it's still going to kid
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heroica Tech: Howdy y'all
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hey sandy
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heroica Tech: So I'm having a wee bit of trouble with the mushclient installed from the Aardwolf sight
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heroica Tech: site even
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what sort of trouble, and is this on windows, linux, or MacOS?
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heroica Tech: Windows Xp. It just that I can't move the stat window down as the top of the window isn't appearing like on the other windows
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, that's easy...
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heroica Tech: So there's nothing to grab to drag it down
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heroica Tech: Tis rather annoying >.<
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heroica Tech: Never used Muschclient before
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heroica Tech: I normally use Zmud
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right-click the tab for it, and say "move"...then use your down arrow key instead of trying to drag with mouse
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heroica Tech: Hey, that's awesome and so simply. Thanks!
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: this is actually a windows feature that will even work with your taskbar stuff, if you ever disconnect a second monitor, etc
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heroica Tech: Yeh, I guessed it was a windows feature. I forgot you could do that to move a window ^_^
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heroica Tech: Why can't I cntrl + tab to another window? :P
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heroica Tech: I mean alt + tab
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: So, why don't all Pentium 4 CPU's have a temperature sensor?  Apparently mine doesn't.  It just shows 0 degrees C.
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: means it's broken
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: no, Farkyss, the Inspiron 2650 doesn't have any temp sensor on the mobo
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: I've cursed that a few times myself.
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: all p4's have a temp sensor
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: but the mobo has no facility for picking it up, or Dell chose not to allow that info to be displayed.
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: more likely the sensor is broken
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: nope, well-known issue with this model. It's an early p4 laptop, 1.8GHz.
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you mean it didn't have a user-accessable sensor tjhen
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Heh, I've read that the 2650 has a whole host of issues that similar models don't have.  I wish I'd have gotten the 8200. :P
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerusalem Tech: I have a question
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Airuk Tech: perhaps you should ask it
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that was a statement
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: is this a question?
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if that was a question, this is an answer
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: this statement is false
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerusalem Tech: I used to have a small window that displayed a map and another small window that displayed stats and my position and what I was fighting and now its gone and I want to know how to get it back
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: Which MUD client are you using?
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: either reenable those plugins or reinstall them
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerusalem Tech: I am useing Aardowlf
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are the tabs for the windows still at the top? are the windows just blank?
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: Aardwolf is the mud, not the client. ;-)
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aardwolf is the MUD you're playing, not a MUD client...I'll presume you're using MUSHclient
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerusalem Tech: There are no windown
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerusalem Tech: I ment MUSHclient
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: re-read my first question and answer that...
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerusalem Tech: There are no windows
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I didn't ask about windows...I asked about tabs
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and there's at least one window if you're typing and reading
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerusalem Tech: Well there is this ONE window
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: my window is open
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yuudoku Refinnej Tech: What about tabs?
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerusalem Tech: Tabs?
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, tabs...do you use IE 7+ or firefox? when you do ctrl-t in one of those browsers, or control click on a link on a web page, it opens up the new page in a tab...then you have tabs across the top of the screen depicting each virtual window...
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in MUSH, you should see the menubar (file, edit, etc), then you should see a toolbar below that (tiny pictures)...finally below that you should see Aardwolf and possibly Map, Helplist, Stats, etc as tabs (above any windows)
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerusalem Tech: I use Internet Explorer yes
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: using IE you should be familiar with what tabs are
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: I'm still using ie 2.4
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerusalem Tech: I thought you meant in Aardwolf
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: PaperTiger Panzer runs away in utter terror!
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You slap PaperTiger Panzer.
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aardwolf is just a telnet connection. it doesn't exist
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we're dealing with a windows program here
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Wait, there's a 2.4 IE NOW?! Holy crap! I need to upgrade!
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: there is no spoon
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and in windows programs, tabs are well-defined and is what I was asking you...where you see the word Aardwolf in a tab (above where you see it in the window's titlebar with the tiny MUSHclient icon)...what other tabs exist next to it?
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(UNWANTED) Candor Tech: Does anybody know the best video player that can play mpg files?
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: xine and windows media are ok
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I like VLC personally, Candor
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: vlc
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PongMaster Tech: second vlc, best all purpose media player out there
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: best... ehhhhhhhh
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It's good, doesn't require codecs, portable version is nice.
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It is pretty kludgy though
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: You mean in terms of its interface, or performance?
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PongMaster Tech: i mean for usability, don't have to d/l codecs or worry about anything, it just plays
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Interface. And occasional blockiness of video. I know its an issue with keyframes - but other players seem to have issues much less
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: yeah vlc for (all around) portable but i like my nero showtime  at home
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod, VLC is a nice catch-all. Especially nice to run from a flash drive
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(UNWANTED) Candor Tech: VLC isn't compatible with MPG. :(
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavelost Tech: hey this has nothing to do with aard, but every time i copy an email into word, something goes wrong...when i try to reindent my paragraphs, the whole paragraph indents instead of just that first line...any clue how i can unlink them?
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: not sure how to fix that but I'd start be making Word show all hidden chars, like tabs etc, there is an option to do that somewhere
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i can't get mushclient to fire window hotspots in python script :(
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Are you doing this through a plugin, or through the world script?
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: through a plugin
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: do you get the tooltip?
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: and the hotspot is not in the main world
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: no
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: then it likely the size of the hotspot is wrong, or you have two named the same
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: window.WindowAddHotspot(win, "hs1", 0, 0, w_width, w_height, "", "", "", "", "mouseup", "Zoom", 10, 0)
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: w_width = window.GetInfo(264)
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: is that the only hotspot in the plugin?
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: w_height = window.GetInfo(263)
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Have you run WindowHotspotList to see if it was added?
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: no i didn't try that
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I have this odd feeling that it will only work with Lua.  See if you can get the list to print out within the plugin.
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: that's what i was afraid
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: of..
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Examples are only in Lua = Odd feeling
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: ya thought the same thing
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: There are a lot of things that you can only do in Lua, since it is easier to embed into the code.  Don't have to muck about with wsh
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: sucks cuz my plugin is done except for the stupid hot spots
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: made a plugin to automatically download a map for the current area if i want it and cache it
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: all the function go to the same place but, WindowAddHotSpot is WindowAddHotSpot in Lua and Python. no?
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Blainer:  In theory, yes.  In practice... *shrug*
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: I wouln't give up on it, it can be fiddle to get mini-windows right
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: ya i'm definitely not giving up, i'll just have to patch together a sub plugin with lua or something
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: using OnPluginBroadcast would work
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: hae can anyone tell me how to make a soundpack for this game?
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: that's what i was thinking
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: I'm blind and I'd like to start a soundpack for this game. do you guys know what to do and how to make it?
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: just pass all the values for the window to the broadcast instead of calling the ShowWindow type function
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: Rishi no idea but if you can post on www.gammon.com.au I know you would get an answer.
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: It would surprise me if some of the other VI players haven't already created soundpacks, Rishi.
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: is there a way to get mushclient to show the output of an alias or trigger without actually sening it?
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: without aadding echos in front of everythign then deleting them later
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: test trigger you mean?
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: file > test trigger iirc
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: not test trigger because that will execute things right? at least it does for me
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: what do you want to do?
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i just want to see what it would send without it actually sending it
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Change the "send to" to notepad?
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: ok so no sort of easy bypass without editing aliases each time i want to do it
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Send() = Function( text ) Note( test ) end   <-- then comment that out when you want it to actually print.
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: you could make an aliase to modify the as many alaises as you like
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Bah...   Send() = Function( text ) Note( text ) end
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Or for future reference, just send to notepad (does in addition to executing i think) and just log it, so its there if you need to debug
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: what is the alious is used foreshake
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: what is the alious is used fore
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: Rishi say again?
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: what is the alious is used fore and how to use them.
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: alias is used to make a short command that executes other commands.
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: an alias is used to represent a command with something else.  using them depends on your client
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: ok. here's what I wana do
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: you know like when you punch or use a spell in the game? rite. I wana put a sound for like a punch slap spell excetra
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: you can make a trigger that matches some text from the MUD and plays a sound file you define.
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: rite. do you know how to do it?
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: one second I'll find some pages that may help.
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: ok.
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: thanks alot blainer. you don't know how much it means to me. I'd like to keep playing this game and I'll keep telling everyone about it too
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: I think there are a lot of blind players here.
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: blainer do you have skype?
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: no mate sorry.
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: if you had skype, I could show you what I mean
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: I know what you want to do, I'm just trying to find the info for you.
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: rishi, may i recommend reading 'help vi'?
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: I'm rite here when you get the thing for me.
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: did you read the help file 'help vi' ?
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: I found a sound plugin but I don't think it will help, it uses a list of wav files and selectes one at random for each hit in combat. Still looking.
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: can I check it out?
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: by the time you're looking
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?id=8721
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: mine's a mud cliant
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Mxit, per chance?
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: oh wait good point, what is your client software Rishi?
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: MonkeyTerm
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Wow, thats one i haven't heard of, thats for sure.
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: it's grate
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: same, what is their homepage url?
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: and accessabel to the blind if you have the jaws scripts
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: it's no longer being created. it's a open sorce software. you can do anything you want with it
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: just type MonkeyTerm in google and it'll pot up
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: pop up
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: I am sorry I wouldn't have a clue about MonkeyTerm and a quick search turned up nothing, perhaps there are some other people around who know MonkeyTerm?
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: I have an idea
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: You should use a client that's more popular and still updated... check out www.aardwolf.com and "help www" for some ideas.
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: I can send you a file along with monkeyterm to take a look.
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: yeah if no one here has heard of the client your using it maybe hard to get help on it.
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: everyone I know is using it. even treaknet
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: trekgames
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: can those guys help you?
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: I don't think so. the owner of that that surver with cosmos is kind of wak
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Seriously -- you should get a real client :)
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: If you take a look at a game with a soundpack already made for it. do you think you can get an idea to how it works
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: I know how to do it in MUSH client. I have never even heard of MonkeyTerm.
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: let me upload it on sendspace for you. and I can show you how to acess the scripts cuz I know alot about, but just learning to script in it
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Rishi... why don't you learn to script in a real language with a client that actually has support?
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guessingo Tech: has anyone had trouble connecting lately? I could not get in with the mushclient for a while. I was abl eto get in with telent. 
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: no probs here with MUSH
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guessingo Tech: ok. wierd. i did have internet . i checked
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guessingo Tech: oh well im in now. thanks
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: blainer, are you sighted or blind?
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: Rishi I'm sighted
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guessingo Tech: is this client aardwolf specific ? did you guys create it for aardwolf? 
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: ok
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: Rishi I found this page. http://tbmic.jiglu.com/
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I'm looking at conradshome.com/monkeyterm and there is a pretty decent explanation on how to make aliases in the help files.
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Airuk Tech: its just mushclient packaged with some aard specific plugins and setup for aard guessingo
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guessingo Tech: oh thanks guys
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: http://conradshome.com/monkeyterm/Help/BasicHelp.html
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: can you create your own channels?
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: oh god switching back and forth between python and lua syntax is going to explode my brain
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: hae blainer
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: yes?
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: is this how it is in your mus cliant.
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: Sounds/General/Socials/Punch
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: that's for the name
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: is like that?
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: I can't answer questions about a client I have never used. MUSH client I can help you with.
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: which mus cliant are you using?
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: If I was you I would consider changing clients to MUSH. The support for MUSH here is excellent. MUSH is free and regular new versions are released.
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: can you send me the link?
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/downloads/dlmushclient.htm
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: ok. I'm going to install it. you'll have to help alot cuz I'm now getting started with it
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: no problems, you will also find most questions have been answered on the forums at the site I gave you.
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: it's installed. what should I do now
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: open Game -> Configure -> Connecting and enter your username and password for Aardwolf and set the connect drop down to Diku style
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: it's not accessabel for blind users. is there a script for jaws to work with it?
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I know I have seen a lot of forum posts about jaws.  Hold on.
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: thx
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rishi, www.allinaccess.com/mc/
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: balaam, abelinc, and blainer are champions
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sikai swoons in absolute ecstasy.
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's a plugin to send output directly through jaws, with cleaned up a bit
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sikai sighs.
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: even in lua i can't get hotspot to throw
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aard actually has a pretty good amount of accomplished players who are blind...even a couple who have finished T9
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: it's in a different world window is that the problem
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: it told me to put it in the plugINs directry, but I can' find it in mus cliant. do I have to create one?
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: so you are trying to get a plugin to make a mini-window in a different window to the window the plugin is installed in?
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, you already have one...it's within the folder where MUSH was instaled
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: it should be in C:\Program Files\MUSHclient\worlds\plugins
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: blainer, yes
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: got it
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: the plugin won't be able to see anything for the other window until you make a user object with the other window
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: blainer, i got the mini window to draw and load an image but it doesn't like adding a hotspot
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: and I have no idea what mini-windows will do
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: like i know i've createed the miniwindow in the other window, but it's just not throwing hotspots
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: from what I'm seeiing, there's a command to run the script anytime I wana use it or I can turn it off if I like
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: well the mini-window in the other plugin can'tsee the function fromt eh other window you are trying to call
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: AH HA
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: that makes sense
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rishi, you can enable and disable plugins
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: CallPlugin probably won't work either
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: control shift p will bring up the plugins menu that lets you select a plugin and enable or disable it
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: well if i have the helper plugin installed into the other world window, will it catch a plugin broadcast from the main world?
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: don't know
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you tell it to
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i'll give it a go
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: remember that all of the plugins that the aard MUSH comes with are already totally separate worlds
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: I though all the plugins from the Aard client just sent output to the other windows
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: those windows are worlds
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: yep sorry I read up properly
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's why you need to install that world file (.mcl) in order to run gammon's/bast's spellup
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: which i added a fix for btw
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: that spellup script is broken because it relies on getting status from telopts
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: so if you're in combat, then read a note or whois or something, it mucks everything up
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I wouldn't call that broken...that's the preferred method
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: umm, no
T1/r7/2009-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: telopts don't care what you're doing
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: the way he wrote it though is broken
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: telopts work in all modes...that's the advantage of them over other ways to get info
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: well it's broken, enter combat, you get telopt for combat, while in combat you read a note, telopt changes to note, then after you go back into active mode, instead of combat mode,
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: so i fixed it to ignore state change if you're not active
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: my bot never reads notes in combat :P
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not read...write ;-)
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: post you plugin on the forums Sikai 
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: hae blainer, I got it to work with jaws
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: yae!
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, kill crow...note write...It would be wise to wait till you've finished fighting.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: which one, my fixed spellup plugin or my map plugin
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: well that was a for isntance
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: it also breaks if you whois/who
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a frinstance that doesn't happen...
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: or if you're sleeping and note/whois/who
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: post em all
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: whois & who shouldn't change your state
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i probably will, i've got a whole pack goin right now
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: blainer, I'm ready to rock with mus
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: awsome Rishi!
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: abe, whois who sends telopt
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: rite. now, what do I do
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: ok can you use the dialogs?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: I have ard wolf ready to rock on it too. 
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if whois sends a telopt to the client, then that is bugged
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: which is what i was trying to tell you in the first place
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?id=8721
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, that's a bug in Aardwolf, not a client
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a script can't make the MUD send something
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: Rishi read this page it has a plugin to help with sounds
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: then you've misunderstood me
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: echo can ;)
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: I'm on mus now talking to you
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: better yet any blind players around who can help a blind player?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: Rishi I geuss the first thing is to learn to make a trigger to play a sound based on text sent from the MUD
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: ok
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: not sure if it's possible with out sight but we'll have a go
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: ok
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: what would you like to have trigger a sound from the MUD
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: oh and do you have any sound files to use?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: well, for instance first let's work on the channels. like, when someone tells you something, we coulb put a sound for that
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: alot
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: great, open the triggers dialog, there is a button on the toolbar or a menu form Game - Configure - trigger
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: umm, ctrl-shift-8 to bring up triggers...
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: alt-a to add a trigger
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: best to stick with keyboard commands, rather than mousing the toolbar's icons ;-)
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: thank you
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: ok. not seeing it in the menue. I'm seeing test triggers
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: ok
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: hit alt-a to open add a trigger
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: where are the keyboard commands listed?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: hold on let me check
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you take your mouse to game -> configure, you'll see the keyboard shortcuts to bring up the different configure windows
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: tar
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in any dialog box, if you press alt, it'll underline the alt key to use to select that button
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: ah easy
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: ok blainer, do you have msn? cuz I won't be able to talk while I'm on the trigger window
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: no I don't use it
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: what do you have. any messanger thinggiies?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: ok. let me try something
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: ok now
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: I'm ready
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: I'm in the trigger window
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: hit alt - a
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: that'll add a new trigger
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: a dialog come up with Edit trigger 
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: good
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: now type: * just sent you a tell.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: ok
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: hit alt - b to open a file select window and find the sound file you want
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: ok
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: hold on while I do it
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: no porbs
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: I can use ogg files too. rite?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i can't get one plugin in one world to broadcoast to a plugin in another world
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: broadcast rather
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: .mid .wav .rmi files are shown in the file types
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: ok hold on
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: Sikai they can't see each other, each world is it's own space, not sure how to get around it, I would post on the forums and ask. I'd be interested see how it's done
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: okee doke
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: the sound is selected
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: ready
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: now lets test it
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: ok
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: hold on
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: try now
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: nowp. it's not working
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: that exact thing worked for me...
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: hit alt - shift - 8
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ctrl-shift 8
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: enter: * just sent you a tell.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: wow I am really bad at this
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: abe send me a tell pls
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: try now
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: Rishi do you hace catchtells on with the MUD?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: Rishi do you have catchtells on with the MUD?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: hmm. I don't know. how do I chek. new to this haha
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: to find out enter the command catchtells until it tells you: You are now catching tells.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: yes. it's now on
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: I'll test again
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: anything?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: nowp
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: hmmm
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: the diaalog is working fine for me. maby it's something I'm doing rong?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: what did you tell me to type for the trigger again?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: this: * just sent you a tell.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: star just sent you a tell.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: put the . too. rite?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the asterisk, shift eight, is a wildcard, to allow the first word(s) to be anything
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: the period
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: k
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: shift - 8 gives you a star in a text box
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: try now
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: yes. it worked!
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: hahaha
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: awsome
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: rite. now, if someone just tells like this. blainner tells you hae
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: see how the star represented my name in the text sent from the MUD when I sent you a tell?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: it made a noise and said blainer just sent you a tell
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: catchtells is the setting that determines whether you see soandso just sent you a tell. or whether you see soandso tells you 'hi there'
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: yes like that
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you type replay to get the tells read to you
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: like like if you say tell rishi hi
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if I type tell rishi hi, you'll still just see abelinc just sent you a tell
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: how do you read it?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type replay
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: hahaha
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: it's working
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: that's amazing
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: what if someone punches you or you punches someone or something
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Blainer :)
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: to make other triggers to play sounds on other things you need to know what the text the MUD sends. Like in the last one it was Blainer just sent you a a tell.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: so if you were to add a sound for punch it'll be * punch you? or something like that?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: that's right
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: cool. I'm going to try it out
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: just replace all the variable parts of the text like names to a star
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: so basicly you're just looking for text to match it so when ever that text displays it'll just play that selected sound?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: correct
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: cool
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: what about like a channel. like the newbie channel if you'd want to play a sound when ever someone sends encluding you on the newbie channel. you'd just type * newbie?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: can't access the newbie channel to look at it but we can do one for tech if you like
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: k one sec
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: k
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: test
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: test
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: test
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: is it working?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: test
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i can't seem to get an accurate world height/width of a client window.  it should be in world.GetInfo somewhere but i can't get the right one
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: try this trigger *Tech:*
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: is the plugin in the same window as the window your trying to get the height for?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: no
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: thats the reason then, think you can do it through an object
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: hrm
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: this is driving me nuts
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: stupid plugin is almost done except for this last little link
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: wow! I set a sound for when you can't go that way
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sikai claps at Rishi's performance.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: cool
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: at least someone's getting something done around here
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: cool
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: test
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: hae blainer
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: I did one by my self
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: my forum post that may clarify what i'm trying to do http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=9787
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: excellent
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: I wonder
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: yes?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: see if you can do one for the tech channel
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: cool! I did it before you
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: cool! I did it before you
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: see if you can do one for the tech channel
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: I get I think
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: k
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: test
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: just ignore these tech tests. I'm testing a soundpack for blind people gamers
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: guys i think i figured out a stupidly simple way around my problem
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: cool. I did another one
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: have plugin in main world send to output in client world, trigger in client world captures message initiates script
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i'll see if i can't do it
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: sweet jesus it works
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: what if you want to let a single word in the line  trigger to play a sound. what would tipe?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ravyan Tech: *word*
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: hmm i'm having problems with a trigger i just wrote...basically when i get a quest it stores the target area in a variable
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i have made aliases that basically for each area, that area name is aliased to a sppedwalk for that area
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: and i made another alias "aq" that does Execute(argetarea)
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: and i made another alias "aq" that does Execute(@targetarea)
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: but then its not expandind the target area to the speedwalk when i type qa
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: if i type the area name out manually it works fine, but the shortcut qa is sending the targetarea to the mud instead of expanding it
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: this is on mush
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: hae blainer
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: btw nevermind i'm stupid
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: was sneding the exectte alias to execute instead of script
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: is there a global variable anywhere in the basic mushclient plugins that come with the aardwolf mush client that shows your current room?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: I am guessing yes given that the minimap has the room name at the top of it
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: but i have no idea how to access it
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: You can match it off of the roomnames tag.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: basically i'm trying to add a check to my recall alias that will see if I already am at recall....how do i see the tag or call for it in an alias?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: you would just match "{rname}*"
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: need to turn on roomtags though
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: and take a look at "help tags" for information on, well, tags.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: ahh so then i make a trigger that updates some variable roomname any time it sees that tag and then when i recall just check if the variable equals my recall roomname?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: also i tried to set up an omit from ooutput trigger for just {rname} so i don't see the tags but just the room names
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: but that doesn't seem to be working
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: if it's send to script make sure it's set to send to script after omit
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: the gag trigger is blank except for the omit from output part
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: the thing is i want it to gag the tags but not the room name not sure how i can do that
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: gag the line, reprint room name from wildcard
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: won't that omit color?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: not if you include styles
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: is there a lua command that lets me send output just to my screen and not try to execute it?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Cookar, I again recommend looking at the getting started section of the MUSHclient forums.  Note() will print to screen, as will print()
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: ug, my brain hurts :(
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i know! COFFEE
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sikai wishes someone would offer him a cup of coffee.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: why i can't get this to work
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: because mushclient is kinda quirky
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: oh i know whats going ont
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: see
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: the omit from output is applying to this note
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: but i have no idea how to bypass that
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Send to:  Script (after omit).  It's the last option in the list.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: ahh i'm blind i was looking through the web page for a different command besides note
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PongMaster Tech: anyone having issues with zmud/mcclient?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: you should only need mcclient for really old versions of zmud.  Like a decade old.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PongMaster Tech: lol yeah... using zmud 4.62
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PongMaster Tech: and all of a sudden it stopped connecting properly tonight, mcclient just doesn't seem to redirect
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: erm...  have you tried upgrading zmud?  Aside from that, can you connect to the local port with telnet?  Is mcclient in the process list?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PongMaster Tech: hrm.. yeah, i'm just so used to my old zmud. and mcclient and everything is running same as before.. it just lags on the port redirect
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: wow i crap a brick when i attempt to script something daring and it works perfectly first time
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i just needed some coffee 'twas all
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: basically exectue my recall script
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: m/t
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: if you have multiple triggers enabled that all trigger off the same input will they conflict and not trigger? can't figure out why these triggers aren't triggering
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: they all have the exact same triggering mechanic
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: usually only the first will. at least in zmud.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: ahh thats probably the deal
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: it depends how you configure it in mush
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: this is getting complicated :)
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Same in MUSHclient.  That's why there is a sequence number, to prioritize.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i'll just use enabletriggergroups to fix this
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: balaam there is a "stop_evaluating" option -- otherwise, it just carries on
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: the sequence number is to order -- I use multiple triggers all the time
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: they are sort of redundant anyway no reason to have them all going at the same time
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: actually, there's a "keep evaluating" option, not a "stop evaluation" one.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: indeed, you are right
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Auryn Tech: can someone try and pull up emerald maps list? can't tell if my browser is hosed or not
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Is it IE? then yes its hosed.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Auryn Tech: hehe
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Auryn Tech: FF
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: yeah, no problem loading it here.  And I'm not using IE.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: in mush, what dicates which miniwindow draws over the other
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Nothing reliable.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sikai pouts. 
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: it's alphabetical, but it would be a pain to maintain.  Just don't overlay windows.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: basically i have a map image loaded into a mini window and i want when you zoom, that if you hold down the mouse and drag it will drag the map
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: but if i have the hotspot callback on the image miniwindow, it kills the hotspot when i redraw the miniwindow
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: there's some dragable window thingy for 4.43.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: jeez already 4.43
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: if i upgrad will that break older scripts?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: on occasion, but usually not.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: as with any other program, back up your data _before_ upgrading.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: nice he fixed the working directory to where it's installed
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: instead of where the shortcut is
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Sikai, you need to require movewindow, and use movewindow.add_drag_handler()
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I'm not sure how to use movewindow, but that seems like the right answer :p
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: the only problem with that is the image is only drawn in the dimensions of window
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: it doesn't draw the entire map when zoomed in
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: so the image needs to be redraw upon move
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: so if i move the window it's just going to show the background to the window
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: unless i've misunderstood
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Why do you have it as a background?  You can put images in miniwindows.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: that's what i did
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: WindowCreate(win, 0, 0, w_width, w_height, 0, 2, ColourNameToRGB("white"))\n
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: WindowLoadImage(win, "im", location)\n
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: WindowDrawImage(win, "im", 0,0,w_width,w_height, 2,0,0,0,0)
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: that draws the whole map stretched to fit the window
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: seems right.  I haven't played with miniwindows too terribly much, though.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: but on mouse up, it zooms in where the mouse coords were
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: so it draws WindowDrawImage(win, "im", 0,0,0,0, 1, src_l, src_t, src_r, src_b)
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: where src_(n) are coords calculate for the window size to where the cursor was clicked
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: hrm well i'll just play with the drawing and see if i can't get it to just draw the whole map at different coords and try movewindow
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: hah, I got a plan Sikai.  Make a hidden miniwindow with the image.  I know somehow you can save that as a bitmap, then display that bitmap as the image on the actual display miniwin.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: ok i'm reading the help file on regular expressions and i'm stumped here
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: anyone used ettercap ng on windows 7?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: regexps can be nasty
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: and also aren't regular, which always pissed me off
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i want to match this : You are carrying *,*,* gold coins. where the ,s are optional
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sikai is agreeing with that Usher person again...
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Cookar, theres no point to that - Look in to help statmon
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: ya it's already retrieved for you
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: heh ok
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: in general though, ignore the ','. Match 'You are carrying .* gold coins.' and then strip out the commas
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you can also grab it from the prompt
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: isn't , an operator in regexp?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: It can also be grabbed with this, then parse out the commas later:  (\d{1,3}(?:,\d{1,3})*)
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: yeah, as evidenced by what I just put down.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: \d matches digits, in regexp - [0-9]
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: should i be able to access stats.gold from the stats plugin somehow in my aliases outside of that plugin?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: how do i access the 17th wild card? %17 seems to be returning %1 with 7 appended to it
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: I don't know what lang. this is in, usually you do something like %(17), %[17], etc...
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: You can just name the wildcards.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: how do i manage to do that?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: although, if you have 17 wildcards, you may want to cut back on them.  Or at least not capture some by using (?:foo) instead of (foo)
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i don't see how to cut back...there are 16 other unknowns before i get to gold in the tags
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: maybe it's in hex
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: all i'm trying to do is make a trigger that will keep an up to date gold value stored...or find some way to access the gold value that is displayed by the stats monitor
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: if all you're looking for is gold, you could start at the end and go backwards
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: You should be able to match the preceeding bit with {.*,}{16} or something 
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: to name a wildcard, use something like this:  (?P<gold>\d+)
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: hrm... and it looks like when Nick added that, he added support for 1000 wildcards instead of just 10.  So you can access them with %17
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: when i used %17 it was putting 88/491
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: but it's probably best to just access them as an array of wildcards in the script and use wildcards[17]
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: which is my current str
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: with 1 appended to the end
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Ah, sorry.  Use %<17>
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: just getting nonsensical values
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: eh, then skip the useless data with (?:foo) as I suggested.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: still getitng nonsensical data even with the foos
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: ^\{stats\}(?:foo)\,(?:foo)\,(?:foo)\,(?:foo)\,(?:foo)\,(?:foo)\,(?:foo)\,(?:foo)\,(?:foo)\,(?:foo)\,(?:foo)\,(?:foo)\,(?:foo)\,(?:foo)\,(?:foo)\,(?:foo)\,(.*?)\,(?:foo)$
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: thats what my trigger is
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i almost got it working, except it won't let me move the miniwindow into negative direction, like i can move the map down and to the right all i want but if the miniwindow topleft is negative it resets the position
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: 16 foos, 1 important, then another foo
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: using %1
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: its returning my int
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: name the important
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: gold
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: the only thing i want is gold
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: no, i mean, name gold like your naming all the foos
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: if i do that how do i access that within my trigger?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: I assume %gold or %<gold> or something
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: neither of those worked
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: is there any way i can just gain access to the variable gold that is being used in the stat plugin? that would be so much simpler because this just doesn't work...adding a bunch of foos solved nothing
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: yes actually
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: how is that?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: gold = GetPluginVariable("8a710e0783b431c06d61a54c", "gold")
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: yes!!!!! thank goodness
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: thanks :)
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: now can anyone tell me why i can't use movewindow to move a miniwindow beyond the top of a window
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: ah ha i figured it out, turns out i'll need to modify movewindow.lua, to allow moving the top of the window beyond bounds
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: my plugins are look looking less and less distributable :(
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: -look
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: bingo i got it
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sikai screams, "VICTORY!"
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: this calls for a victory coffee and cigarette
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: ah this is so cool
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saulvon Tech: Does anyone know how to get the big map showing on the appropriate window in the mush client?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: any Mac users here?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DeathEmbrace Tech: do any of you, per chance, know how to make telnet display what you are typing?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: or, anyone know how I can setupp my Netbook (running Windows) so I can control it with my Mac?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: DeathEmbrace, make it echo.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DeathEmbrace Tech: 22ech on?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: ECHO ON
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: Yes.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Hit CTRL+] and then type "set localecho on" I believe...
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: And then hit enter until you get back here
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DeathEmbrace Tech: Localecho isn't a recognized value
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Try "show" and see what the name of it is, then
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: so, anyone know how I can remote control my windows netbook?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DeathEmbrace Tech: emote de4sktop
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DeathEmbrace Tech: Bleh, also you can use logmein.com
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DeathEmbrace Tech: but you need it on both computers
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: ah, cool, I'll check it out, thanks :)
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DeathEmbrace Tech: I dont suppose there is any way to do mud-side trigger, correct?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rau Tech: no
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DeathEmbrace Tech: Kk, i know i can do aliases but i didn't know about triggers
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}#/bin/bash Isildur Tech: is there a way to alias something like "get something bag; wear something" with alias command of mud?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: no
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}#/bin/bash Isildur Tech: thx
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: currectly mud aliases do not support multi commands
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: just use your client :)
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xvaloke Tech: What is the syntax for AddAlias in mush?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: go to Help->Function List, click on AddAlias and it'll give you the syntax
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xvaloke Tech: kk, thanks.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: hae
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: any Magento commerce themers in here?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: yikes! I need food fast
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: hae guys, do you guys know how to match the triggers so when that sirtain fraze apairs on the screan, the sound will play?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: who tells you that I'm going to pay for it. smile
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: ok
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thrilhouse Tech: anyone know how to get color in the help window when using the aardwolf mushclient?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: notepad doesn't support color, you'd have to disable the plugin temporarily, read the helpfile, and reenable
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thrilhouse Tech: ok thnx
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: I'd like everyone who contributed to help make the soundpack for blind gamers for ardwolf. how ever, it's progressing nicely with mus cliant. and I'd like to put it for gamers to download and use it.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: hae blainer
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: hae
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: newbie test
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saulvon Tech: Does anyone know why the mushclient recommended off the website woulddn't be updating the big map window?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: wow! I did 20 triggers!
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: awesome! :)
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: can you save the soundpack and give it to a friend for him to use it too
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: question?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: I don't use mushclient, so I don't know. there should be a way to export settings, though you'll need to make sure you put the sound files in with it.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: cool
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: cool
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: hae
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: test
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: test
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: I got it!
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: hae
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: mmm, algerian muslim physicist working at the hadron collider has been charged with terrorism offences
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: how can you be smart enough to work at CERN, but dumb enough to email terrorist plans?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: and open-minded enough to be a nuclear physicist, yet retarded enough to be a fundamentalist muslim
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: doesn't make a lot of sense
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Airuk Tech: c'est la vie
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: being a nuclear scientist is like being a good cook... just make sure you don't burn or drop anything on the floor
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: c'est la vie my arse, should lock him up and throw away the key
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: Anyone have any good concrete guide to do NP-complete proofs?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Airuk Tech: i meant you shouldn't expect things to always make sense
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: hae blainer
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Airuk Tech: that scumball deserves whats coming
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: shall we do the rest of your homework while we're at it, usher?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: No homework, but if you want to help me study for my test, feel free
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Airuk Tech: assignment one, prove P = NP
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naya Tech: smart enough to pickup chicks but can't 
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naya Tech: pass calc
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: I don't want to take airuk's class...
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: if there are any questions that you can't answer, just reply that this must be one of those statements which are definitely true but which can't be derived from the base axioms of our mathematical system.  QED
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Airuk Tech: haha yes. equate everything to the continuum hypothesis
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: Lol. Invoke Godels on everything
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: biggest fight i ever had with my wife was over whether there is more than one infinity.  to this day she still believes there's only one
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thrilhouse Tech: who shaves godel is what i really want to know
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Airuk Tech: i've had that same argument
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Airuk Tech: it makes good sense to me but i'm not good at convincing my wife
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: I could see thinking infinity is all one big number, but negative infinity?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thrilhouse Tech: there's at least 2 infinities, the one far away and the one that counts the difference between .9999 and 1 :):)
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: negative infinity is a number close to, but not touching, farkyss's bank balance
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Airuk Tech: so farkyss's bank balance is the limit of negative infinity? yikes
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: eep
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: hopefully someone will screw up with their paperwork and miss of a -
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: eh, its all on computers now aday so it underflowed and now hes rich
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: of = off
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thrilhouse Tech: new monopoly card: Underflow error in your favor :)
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: hae
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: test
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus has called an Epic Fail on Rishi! Charitable Charneus = 1 Rishi = 0
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: how do you find whether or not a force beats max friction if you're given a coefficient for static friction?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: normal force * mu_static = minimum force required to make an object move
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: coefficient of friction times nominal force, which is generally defined by mass * gravity... unless you have a slope or others involved.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: so....  coefficient * mass * gravity = Force needed to start movement
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: F_n is not always mass * F_g
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: true, Drtoki.. which is why I said "generally".  I am going to assume that the person asking is in a college course...
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: and colleges are generally pretty basic in their physics classes.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Screw going to a 4-year school.  Go to a 2-year vocational school instead, you won't regret it.  I wish I had :(
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: yeah... in my experience, colleges generally aren't good for much more than getting the drunken partying out of kids so that they can actually learn something in the real world after they get out of college.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: I thought thats what high school was for?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: high-school is for learning how to take orders, not ask questions, and respond to a bell.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: High school is for smoking pot, driving fast, and having unprotected sex so that you can be good at these things when you finally get to college and/or go to live in the ghetto because you're jobless.  I never did any of those in high school, which is probably why I'm unskilled at life now :(
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: That is alot of stuff to be doing at one time.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: too true, Starling
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moshu Tech: ya smoke pot, while driving and having sex
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: But if you're really on top of your game, you can do it.  I know people that have.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: Strangely, I don't know if I'd want to be in that car or not
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moshu Tech: I know but throw in filing your taxes and see if you wreck
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thooven Tech: anyway to remove coords information when you run from the output
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: tags
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thooven Tech: ty sir
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thooven Tech: one last question and i will leave you all alone --- mushclinet running when i type score the or aff the lines / columns are not straight suggestions
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: use a monospace font
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: fixed width, etc
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thooven Tech: k will try that it does fix aff but the score page is still all screwy
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durrant Tech: hi
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durrant Tech: can someone help me with making a trigger in mush client
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: maybe your trigger is not matching the text from the MUD
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durrant Tech: well i went into game>configure>trigger
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durrant Tech: i typed [Fighting: from my hp bar
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: but is the trigger does not match it won't fire
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durrant Tech: yeah i dont see how it couldnt match
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: that is from your stat line
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durrant Tech: and?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juli Tech: durrant maybe [Fighting:* try that
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: to see it all open triggers and turn Enable Triggers off then hit enter
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durrant Tech: oh that takes all extra?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: it's your stat line, do what I said and you'll see it
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juli Tech: listen to blainer i use cmud maybe they different
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: hae blainer
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durrant Tech: nah you were right juli, it works now
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: Rishi!
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: I did some, but like help and stuff
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durrant Tech: ty
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: but anytime I type something with tell or tells with it, it plays a sound for it. but I only want it to play only when I send or receive a tell
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: you see it Durrant?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durrant Tech: the problem though is it seems i can only bash every other hp line
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durrant Tech: no blainer, lemme read history again sec
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juli Tech: disable the sound on tells i sup rishi
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: Rishi there is another way but you'll need to make triggers for all channels or you'll have wierd stuff at the begining of all the channel messages
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: well, if that's the case, it may be hard, but I'll learn it by force
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: the reason I didn't suggest to do it this way in the begining is because it will take some time
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rahjak Tech: do u need a bit of understanding in writing code lines to write triggers or are there examples floating around?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: I found some examples
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: there are lots of examples just not sure best way to for you
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotter Tech: how can i stop this from happening every time i move?          -+-----                     |[!] [#>|          r. them.  ; ####         -----+-              
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rahjak Tech: no prob i cn experiment once i see how its done
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Turn off automap.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Don't turn your map off.  I didn't like it at first either, but I got used to it and it's actually very helpful once you figure out how to read it.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotter Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mahon Tech: Does anyone know if the Mccp proxy is down? 
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: what mccp proxy?  The mud is compressing.  mcclient runs on your own computer, so I wouldn't know.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mahon Tech: not the mcclient, I use gmud and use the mccp_pc proxy thing from the web site.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: that would be mcclient.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: as opening the mccp_pc zip shows mcclient.exe, mcclient.cfg...
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: if you are running mcclient out of that zip, you have to have gmud connect to localhost port 4010
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mahon Tech: yes and it was working great, until last night it connects but goes no further
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mahon Tech: so I have no more compression 
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: did you restart mcclient?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mahon Tech: several times and deleted it and redownloaded it same thing
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: mahon:  What does the mcclient.cfg file have in it?  Just a line with "4010 aardmud.org 4010" or something similar?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: so looking at tech -h why did no one warn that guy about botting ?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: warn what guy?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: #tr {^[Fighting:*} {bash} that guy
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: The "shotter" guy?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I claim I was not logged in yet.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mahon Tech: aardwolfmud.org 4010
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: I'm afk off and on, so i take no blame.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: I claim complete afkness
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Mahon, that's not valid.  Try aardmud.org
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: "help ports" will show you what ports you can use.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Unless you can telnet to aardwolfmud.org port 4010
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mahon Tech: ok how do I change that? puter stupid here
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: it's a valid port, just not a valid url.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chicomecoatl nods at Blessed Balaam.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: why do they recommend a different port for MCCP?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: They don't usher, port 23 is just used for telnet though, (telnet has no MCCP itself)
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: port 23 was added because it is the standard telnet port.  It has nothing to do with whether or not mccp is used.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: They do, in the help "Port 4010 is the suggested port using MCCP compression"
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Holliday Tech: Chicomecoatl your soo smart
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: meaning, "this is suggested for non-telnet users"
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mahon Tech: any ideas on how to change it from aardwolfmud.org to aardmud.org?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: umm... by typing?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: keyboards are fantastic for that, so I hear.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mahon Tech: I thought as much
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Tell that to the Mxit morons.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: They love their phones.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Touch scr... oh wait
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Can they use virtual keyboards?  http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/keyboards-mice/8193/
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Which makes no sense. When i text people, i use full words, and punctuation to boot... why can't they?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: Maybe they don't see the point. :)
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maranta Tech: Can anyone help me with an alias on MUSH client?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maranta Tech: I need help making an alias for casting a spell.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=9616
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: MUSHClient? you just enter c <spell id> in the alias
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: from the "Getting Started" section of the forums.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maranta Tech: Thank you.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mahon Tech: ok got it, it's working again. Thank you
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moshu Tech: how do i stop mushclient from popping teh world map up
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: auto bigmap off
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: suppose i wanted to trigger off of three potential things: runt blah*, runto blah*, and blah* is there anyway to make a regulr expression that covers all three at once (i don't want it triggering off of any other syntax)
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: yup
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: ^(runt* rawr|runt* grr|runt* blah(.*))$
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: or something like that
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: lemme check that out and see :)
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: ^runt* (rawr|grr|blah)(.*)$ might work better
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: sweet this is going to be cool :)
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: why are you people trying to match "run blah", "runt blah", "runtt blah", "runttt blah", etc
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: ^runto? (rawr|grr|blah).*
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: ya that's more like it
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i'm afraid i'm not that great at regexps
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: although I personally would match "^runto? (.*)" and then make a table with swtable = { ["grr"] = "foo", ["blah"] = "bar" } and have a script doing:  if swtable[wildcards[1]] == nil then Send( "runto "..wildcards[1] ) else ... end
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i know but i looked at your speedwalk table thing that you linked me to and couldn't understand it
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: what command compresses the (magic) (glow) (hum) etc, flags?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: shortflags
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: ty
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moshu Tech: can i get a site to start learning the syntax plzzzzz & thx u
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: You can google it yourself, Moshu, plzzzzzzkkthxbaibai!
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sikai snickers softly.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Try the reference manual on www.lua.org
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: also suppose i'm matching mark marke or market or realistically any mark*...that wouldn't work with tables right?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: it can.  I hacked up a quick script to automatch.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Hacker!
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Bot!
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: otherwise, you will have one messy, complicated regex.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I have contacted the FBI regarding this hacking.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moshu Tech: is ok to have a macro like en a, en b, en c, en d, en e, ... en z. ?? 
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I've contacted the FBI before.  I still get emails about that guy in Nigeria wanting to smuggle money into this country.  Lot of good they would do.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moshu Tech: neter
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moshu Tech: enter ha
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: didy ou post that script on your webpage? or personal use
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: those aren't macros
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It's legal.  Alas that you have to make such a macro to compensate for sloppy building practices.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Yeah they are.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: "macro" defines any key, or key combo, that sends an input to the mud.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: But in the absence of adequate regulation, I guess sometimes they'll be sloppy.  It's unfortunate, but without such regulation, it can't be helped.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: You can manually add the macro using the hexcode that each key combo send
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Cookar: I have it at home.  I can try to remake it here if I have free time.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: its no rush at all i could just work on building the table tonight
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: yes but they are more like aliases if it's "enter ha"
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Although it would do you little good if you do not know how to use it.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: heh this is true :)
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Like alt + r sends the key code \er in WinTinTIn
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: see now that's different Chicomecoatl
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moshu Tech: ok so its legal, i just hate some portals key words so i made a macro that tried to enter every letter of the alphabet 
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: \er != er
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Blame the sloppy builder.  Post a note to bugs/typos and mention that the stupid thing doesn't have good keywords.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: You see the hassle a simple policy change could save?  But no.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moshu Tech: no its nothing to do game I am just lazy and wanted a button that could enter any portal
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moshu Tech: to do with
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Careful with that, Moshu.  What if there are multiple portals in the room?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: that will screw you up in some areas where there are multiple portals in a room
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moshu Tech: then i do a manual enter
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moshu Tech: its just for one portal rooms
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Usually when someone wants a 'enter a; enter b; enter c;' type alias/macro, it's to compensate for a builder who didn't do his work and put the right words on something.  Happens with mobs too.  Not as often anymore, but it does still happen from time to time.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moshu Tech: k i was worried it broke some rule, i have one for kill also, I use it mainly for farming a low level area with little effort
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moshu Tech: or one mob rooms
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: If i use statmon to keep a constant display of enemy health, my health etc, would the following gags have any MAJOR downside that you can think of? #gag ^[%1] %2;#gag ^Your %1 [%2]
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: As long as you're in compliance with 'help botting' you are fine.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: How is a gag botting?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: The problem would be when the next room has a portal as well
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Just trying to reduce spam
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Referring to Moshu's statement, Chico.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: chico... not you
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: gagbot...  sounds like an S&M robot.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Ahh.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: good point, usher
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: Don't suppose anyones made/heard of an autocomplete plugin for tt++?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: autocomplete? #help tab
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: is that what you're looking for?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: what's the regex for capturing a comma-delimited number?
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ([0-9,]+)
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: ([0-9]{1,3}(?:\,[0-9]{3})*)
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: ...
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Yeah... Balaam... let's make things harder than they have to be.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: as Abelinc's will match on "34,2,2,34"
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which is a comma-delimeted number ;-)
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus snickers with you about your shared secret. 
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: ok, then it will match on "," which is a comma.
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Abe just got pwned!  Epic!
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: s/[0-9]/\d/g 
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: s/\[0-9\]/\d/g 
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: s/\[0-9\]/\d/g 
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: whoa, slow down!  I don't know what half of that means...
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: To sum up Drtoki's sed...  replace the [0-9] with \d
T1/r7/2009-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: actually, the sed was more of a concise summation...
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jyscal Tech: Hello! Is there someone who could please help?
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Dont ask to ask, just ask
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jyscal Tech: the thing is i dont know much about them so would like to start making my own
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: What are "them" ?
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Continuity errors detected.
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sikai gets a blank look on his face.
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: If you did an ans -h jyscal , you'd see.
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jyscal Tech: I think im on the totally wrong track here sorry for confusing
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: 14 keystrokes is too much effort
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Nah, Jyscal. You just need to state exactly what you're doing.
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: he/she wants to know about triggers, jyscal what client are you using
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Right now, you're doing the equivalent of 'OMG! Some person just jumped off a building, and I went to go buy a purse, and OMG! That movie was so awesome!' In other words, you're all over the place. ;)
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: "want to know about triggers" doesn't give us what your question is...
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: Jyscal questions 'Hello all:-)! Is there anyone who could please help with Triggers?'
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your client has helpfiles for making triggers...have you looked at those helpfiles?
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jyscal Tech: Ive just started playing aard on pc and saw an option for them in the mush client
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/mushclient/funwithtriggers.htm
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jyscal Tech: So my question is what exactly are they and how can i use them
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: ^^
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: triggers are a cause and effect thing...
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jyscal Tech: Oh ok thanks very much!
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if MUSH sees text from the MUD that fits the trigger "pattern", it will do something according to what you told it to do
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jyscal Tech: I think ill have to take it one step at a time:-)
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jyscal Tech: Thanks for the help guys!
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: start with the easy ones...what we'll call "literal" strings...where your pattern is exactly what the MUD sends...
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: an example of this would be "## (You start to feel hungry."
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: an example of this would be "## You start to feel hungry."
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sorry, the parenths was from me combining triggers
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jyscal Tech: will that site help me with how to write/program them?
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's exactly what the MUD sends, so you can just paste it into the top part
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: that site will, but abe's giving you a seminar right now if you want it
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then the big bottom part could have "get chalice satchel" (hit enter for new line) "gulp chalice"
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jyscal Tech: Ah ok i think its making sense:-D
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for that easy trigger, you're all done already
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jyscal Tech: nowhere near as difficult as i thought it would be. but as you said thats the easy one
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: it gets more complicated but that's the premise for triggers
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: as you start playing you'll find you do the same things over and over
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, as you get into "variables", it'll get more complex
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moshu Tech: i DL mushclient from aardwolf.com and I can't get into the help file is there one online
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, www.mushclient.com
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but you should be able to use the helps from what you downloaded
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are you on vista?
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: what do you mean, you can't get into them
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jyscal Tech: Yeah thats right like i think you mean drink water eat etc?
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moshu Tech: ya and i used the UAC to run it
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: support.microsoft.com/kb/917607
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that'll let the helpfiles work normally
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vista didn't ship with the helpfile viewer, you can download it from microsoft
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: oh ya i forgot about that
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: that's so rediculous
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but all of the helpfiles are on the mushclient site in html format
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jyscal Tech: Ill play Around for the day and see what i can come up with. Thanks so much again:-)
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: jyscal, on Aard, don't bother drinking water and eating...if you fill your drink container with a drink that satisfies both hunger and thirst (milk, root beer, OJ, etc), then you only need to carry around 1 item, the drink container
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: the found up and a north from recall has water that satisfies both
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: the fountain*
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: what's probably the best way to gag the lines spewed from 'where'
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i just need to cap the first line for the current area, the rest is junk
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: maybe an echo?
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ologn Tech: does old spellup plugin here: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=6565 no longer work?
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Auryk Tech: is there anyway to output your entire prompt string (not just what config shows)?
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: What is config missing?
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Auryk Tech: looking for all the color commands, too
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Auryk Tech: being lazy, basically :)
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: If config shows it in colour, you might be able to use colour grabbing plugins, depending on what client you use.
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: hey, it does show colour :)
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: so you want to see this?:  @cYour game prompt is  @w: [@R%h/%Hhp @B%m/%Mmp @G%v/%Vmv @Y%Xxp %tt %qq %aa%d]%c@w
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: is position always 1 when you are sleeping?
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Uhhhh..... I think it's one, but its the same regardless of if you're sleeping / sleeping on something though
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: anyone know offhand what the exact text from quest fail is?
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: about your tech post, i'm fairly certain that you will always see exactly 60 "ticks" from the time you complete a quest until the time you can quest again
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: is it possible to grab the gq/cp list of mobs and put it in another window so that i can keep track of the remaining mobs as i kill them, such that i don't have to type cp check? like tags.. or something similar to that effect?
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: how do i do that?
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: magic
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no not really. just scripts
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: I use MUSH, and you?
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: mush too
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: can you direct me to a site/helpfile?
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: search musclient forums
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: trigger Find and kill 1 \*( an\s| a\s| the\s|\s)(.*) \((.*)\)then send %2 and %3 to notepad
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: this works for campains, mess with it a bit to do cp
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: this works for campains, mess with it a bit to do gq
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishi Tech: what are wildcards for?
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundy Tech: my mccp to 4010port not working anymore.Is there some change in last two days?
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: is it possible to make 1 alias send to 2 locations, the main world window and a notepad?
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Junkai Tech: any1 know is there any program i can use to play DS game? :P
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: An emulator?
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Junkai Tech: yea
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: nocash is the best one
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: how do you get the rom's for the DS?
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you have to pirate them, but we can't help you with that here
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: if you can't use a search engine i don't even want to help you
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: or find homebrew ds games
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: I figured, is there a H/Ware reader?
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: why don't you jfgi?
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: jfgi? Is that a thing or did you just make it up?
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You rock, Airuk Tech: just f'ing google it
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that's irony right there
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: I groked what it meant, just curious if you pioya.
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CryForNoOne Tech: anyone knows what i need to do in zmud if my prompt dosent fit in one line.... it cuts little bit off it and displays in next row
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Happydog Madcatz Tech: Is it wrapping everything else (besides the prompt) at the same length?
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CryForNoOne Tech: i think so
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: use %c to select where you want to break your prompt over multiple lines.
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: or decide what you don't need in your prompt and edit that out.
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Happydog Madcatz Tech: If you want it to display all on one line, there's probably a option somewhere in Zmud called "Wrap lines/characters at xx characters" or something of the sort, that you have on.
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Happydog Madcatz Tech: Increase it by a few characters, and you probably won't even notice a difference with everything else.
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Porphyre Tech: should i use dd-wrt or tomato?
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Auryk Tech: mushclient alias question - to create an alias
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Swalec waits eagerly for the question
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Auryk Tech: such as xb to expand to examine bag
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Auryk Tech: sorry, the x was matching :)
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Auryk Tech: the xb would be examine bag
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Auryk Tech: or better yet, just to alias x to examine
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Auryk Tech: alias is x with a match of examine %1 , right?
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: well, you can do that -- you want to script it or use GUI?
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Auryk Tech: or well, expansion of examine %1
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Auryk Tech: just the gui for now
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I have an alias "lp" which just uses a standard bag
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: you're probably going to keep the same bag and use it repeatedly, so you don't really need to make it parameterisable
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Auryk Tech: true, but the more I think about it, "x" for examine might be fairly useful
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Auryk Tech: so the simple for xb works because it will always be bag
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: true, but then aard lets you use short names anyway, so "ex bag" will do what you want
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: sorry, exa bag -- ex is exit
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Auryk Tech: yea, trying to go for the 1 char since examine is something that will be used often - the examine %1 is supposed to work, right?
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: but otherwise, yes, you are right
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Auryk Tech: hmm
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: if you are using regexp -- I think it's "&" otherwise
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: let me try
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Auryk Tech: the mushclient help on this subject is not working...
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: it's not great is it...
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Auryk Tech: not on aliases, no :)
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: okay, got it...
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: set the alias to be test *, with an expansion of "echo %1
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I only ever do this by scripting:-)
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Auryk Tech: hehe - not an advanced enough scripter here :)
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: not an advanced enough GUI user here
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I use several machines, and scripting it's easier to get stuff to move across machines
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Auryk Tech: true that
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: have fun
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Porphyre Tech: i just tried switching to the aardwolf version of mushclient and when i switched back I'm getting "{chan ch=gossip}" and "{chan ch=auction}".  how do i get rid of this?
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: help tags
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: or tags off
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Porphyre Tech: thank you!
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: my pleasure!
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arismis Tech: hey, anyone here who can do front-end web design and want to make some money on a small project? prefer a student or someone who knows this stuff and can do it on the side
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arismis Tech: focus is on DESIGN, functional and aesthetic, not on actual functionality or programming
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saulvon Tech: Would anyone using mushclient know why my bigmap might not be updating itself?
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Process Tech: try toggling maprun but it has been spotty for me when running to and fro. sometimes it updates sometimes it doesn't
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SpikeLee Tech: why on cMud when i type .h does it give me nw, is there anyway to get rid of this?
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: CMud uses the . as the speedwalking character, and the h corresponds to the direction setting for NW
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: It gives you nw because 'h' is the default direction for nw, or northwest.
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SpikeLee Tech: right, is there anyway to disable this?
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: to free up the use of the period, change the Special Character preferences to something else for the speedwalk character
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: You can either change the speedwalk character (I changed mine to \) or you can disable it in the English Directions package (you'll have to go to View->Show Default Packages)
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Changing the speedwalk character is much easier, as it allows you to use . freely.
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SpikeLee Tech: alright, thanks guys :)
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: anyone know why a plugin would just stop working until i reinstalled it?
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: an error occurred
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: ?
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: no error messages came through
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: not all errors generate messages.
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: the really insidious ones just hide until the worst possible moment, then they strike!
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sikai chuckles politely.
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: that could disable a plugin?
T1/r7/2009-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: wasn't the whole plugin that disabled either just my room detection trigger
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: this may seem like a stupid question, but i have a drive where i want all but one folder shared. how, other than individually sharing everything, can I do this?
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: running windows xp
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Move the drive somewhere else.
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: er, the folder
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: share the drive, then use permissions to disallow access to that folder
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: how do i set permissions?
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I think you have to disable simple fire sharing
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: do you have xp home or xp pro
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: home
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: then you dno't.
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: erm... don't.
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: gotcha. i'll just move the folder. now if i want to share that folder and have it password protected on the network, is that possible?
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: wait... brain not working.  I was thinking the different logins.  Home only allows guest.
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I dunno the differences between home & pro, I only deal with pro...permissions are right-click the folder, select either sharing and security or select properties and then use the security tab
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Achtrod Tech: morning, anyone know if there's a mobile app for aard? Other than mixt
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: achtrod, the best things to use for MUDding on a mobile phone would be midpssh or pocketputty
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and even better is to use one of those 2 in order to access a free unix/linux shell account somewhere where you run a real MUD client such as tinyfugue or tintin++
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Achtrod Tech: i'll give it a try, thanks
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: ok i'm looking through settings and i'm not finding a way to password protect a shared folder in xp home.. i'm to assume this is not possible?
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You'll have to disable simple file sharing - not sure if you can do that in XP Home
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: don't see an option for simple file sharing.. :(
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: http://www.wikihow.com/Disable-Simple-File-Sharing-in-Windows-XP-Home-Edition
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: looks to be the same as in pro, but, that should work. 
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: sweet, thank you. i want to see the folder on the network but if my friends come over i want it to be private. 
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Gotcha. Another option is to change the work group name, or put the wireless on a different subnet
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that won't let him share openly some folders, but not that one
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No, but I thought he was trying to share folders on his own computer, and allow friend internet access
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: no, in house.
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: in house?
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he explained more earlier, this was his follow-up
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ahh gotcha.
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Sorry, I assumed internet access for friends. Typically I don't share folders for friends =p
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: basically i have a file server set up that stores all my files and whatnot that is attached to my tv so i can watch movies on it. i want that all shared, but one folder i want shared with passworded access so that only I can get in there.
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ahhh gotcha. Have to disable simple file sharing. Though, using XP Home for a file server is a bit unusual
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's just the computer with the big drive, I'd guess
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: 4 big drives, but in a nutshell, yeah.
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod, But you could install another OS. Not that its neccessary I guess.
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: lotta years of files on there. lol
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why install another OS?
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Why use windows home?
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not being used as a file server...it's being used as a computer...it just happens to have shared files
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: well, on my laptop, if i knew that VNC worked in linux just fine, i would prolly put fedora 11 on here.
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I dunno. For that kind of stuff, I suppose I'd just prefer to have media center.
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: and the reason for xp home is I own 5 keys for it, and it's essentially the easiest to set up.
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vnc works in linux, but vnc doesn't send audio and isn't for video
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i just need it to connect to the box, click load, and watch it on the tv
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: that's what i use now to control all my comps from my laptop.
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: which is why i moved all the drives that were spread around into one system for easier access and maintenance
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Achtrod Tech: um sorry, about this but i'm at a complete loss in how midpssh works? Any help?
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vnc or vlc?
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: read the documentation, achtrod
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: k, on mush i just tried my hand at installing a vorpal counter but when i vorpalled i got some error msg...... any ideas? i suck at all this so its probably something easy
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: your script is broken
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: i just c/p it from the website, more likely i have it in the wrong spot or something
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: ok i asked in here last night now to set up a folder to be passworded or otherwise unable to be accessed without special permission on my network. i was told to disable simple file sharing, which is done. but how do i add a password to the folder so only i can access it.
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: even if i need ot install some kind of third party software to do this. 
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juli Tech: what system do you use stapleface?
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: xp home
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juli Tech: mmm let me remember but if not use the help and heck for folders that will let you know
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: right now i'm logged in as administrator in safe mode to be able to set the permissions and whatnot
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: just don't know what i need to set essentially. lol
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juli Tech: just go to help and type folders that will let you know what can you do and cant do
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juli Tech: easy way encrypt it and is protected
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juli Tech: -10 3
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moshu Tech: I was getting ready to get a new cellphone and I want to make sure I get one that can play aard on it can blackberries do it?
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: are the screens on blackberries decent and able to support mxit
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moshu Tech: I really want aard on my phone haha
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: most new Blackberries can run a free telnet program that will let you play aard, but all of the mud clients are pay. Screens are fine and will support Mxit, but why would you want to go that route when you can log in directly?
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: blackberries were out several years ago -- maybe blackberries are obsolete (unless they were upgraded) 
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moshu Tech: when I am away from house in doctors office
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moshu Tech: etc
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: mxit is pay-for-use ?!
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: if telnet is free and mud clients are pay, why not run a telnet daemon on your computer, telnet home and run tt++ or tf
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: Blackberry is constantly releasing new styles and upgrading.
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: telnet home?  ssh, puhleeeese!
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: Makes sense to me, Cartman.
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: I'm actually considering setting up a version of tt++ or tf for precisely that reason.
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: I use tt++... and when I get a new phone, I'd love the capability to get into my home computer and play with all my scripts from the phone
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: are HP science calculators with a fast bigger decent screen -- if so, they merely require an itelephone connection
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: use screen to keep the session alive when you close ssh
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Me Wantee Freggle Tech: any of you tried an e-reader yet?
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: yeah i've had one for a while now
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nefarian Tech: using mushclient, how do i make the text wrap itself automatically whenever i change my window size?
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: maybe that's more of a tech question....  Does    RBOC in phone speak stand for ' Residential business or commercial ' ?
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: No.
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: RBOC is a regional bell operating company... those created after the breakup of AT&T. also called baby bells
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: does anyone here use fedora core 11?
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: bleh, i don't understand why this stupid piece of crap won't reliably connect to the internet
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: -any- wireless card installed will randomly stop communicating with the router at any random interval
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: God knows mine does all the time.
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: check the router, Farkyss.
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: I had one go bad that way.
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it's not the router
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: check the card's settings I know I had to crank the roaming agressiveness down on my laptop's internal card so it didn't switch to a stronger signal that wasn't set up right :P
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: same problem exists on two different cards, and no other wireless is in range
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: in Cmud how do you refer to every argument passed to an alias?  Ie, not  or  but something like %* and also, how do you get it to parse those arguments?
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: not %%1 or %%2 that is
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: %-1
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: ahh ty
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: any ideas on how to force it to parse ?
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: not sure what you mean
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: I have #alias foo {smile linoge}     then I do #alias parsearg {%-1}    Then I type parsearg foo into the command line, I want it to parse the arg (foo) as an alias and effectively "smile linoge"
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: instead it just does foo :(
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: #exce {%-1}
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: #exec {%-1}
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: ahh awesome ty
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: but that seems redundant your example
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: its not a realworld example :)
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: oh ok
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: anyone here use fedora core 11?
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: not yet
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: which do you use
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: 10
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: ah. is it hard to get it on a wireless network?
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: im downloading core 11 now, and just curious as to how difficult it will be
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: well, I only used it on a wired network
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: gotcha. i want to learn linux and everyone keeps recommending fedora, so i'ma give it a show
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: ubuntu much easier imo
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: but both are good choices
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: fedora got all the bells and whistles
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: if you want to LEARN linux Ubuntu is a horrible choice
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: yeah but if you hit a wall early on in linux, you might not continue to learn
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: I used to run Fedora. I see no real point anymore. CentOS is the full RedHat release and installs and runs fairly simply.
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: if you want to learn linux, try slackware
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i've tried ubuntu before, and i hated it. i've used older versions of fedora, unfortunately yum won't update
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I started using Slackware in 94
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: we don't put children on bikes without training wheels and say learn to ride! Ubuntu has training wheels, you don't automagically have to solve 40 driver problems when you install
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: Go with Arch Linux
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: they're all solid choices in the long run
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I just got my new work laptop with vista
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: well, my brother has experience with older versions of fedora, and so far i like what i see in it, so i'm stickin with it. lol
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: and when you learn to do Ubuntu stuff from terminal, you're set for Debian
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I will shoot someone before the day is over
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chocolate Milkshake nods at Lacrimosa.
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i hate vista
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: how is debian doing on releases these days?
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Amen to that, brotha.
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: debian actually release?
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: releases? that seems entirely against their philosophy :)
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: that's what I wanted to know :)
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I love Vista... Only thing I love more than Vista is Windows 7. :P
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: vista may have changed since i first used it, which was a year after it was released, and my impression then was F this crap, and went back to xp
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Well by all means. Fedora is a good distro. Not a bad learning experience either. Good luck and have fun.
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I dont have a choice, it is the OS on our company laptops atm
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: ah, that sucks then
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yeah... Vista aint that good if your computer aint quite powerfull... Only then it's true strengths show
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: laptop isn't too bad, but battery life sucks
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: anyone have experience with getting linux on wireless?
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Last time I tried wireless was on Ubuntu... Which isn't a good distro... So it should work on Fedore... (Plug 'n Play)
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: linux on wireless what? a wireless phone? psp?
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: internet
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: He means... Getting wireless to work on linux
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: you're asking if anyone has experience getting linux on the interget?
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Read up
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Internets
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i don't even know where to begin to look. lol
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: try google
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I'd still recommend Windows tho.
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: Ubuntu'
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: er... Ubuntu's the only one I've seen get on wireless easily.
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: same
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: run ubunto off a CD, and see if you can get wireless to work
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: that way you don't have to go through a full blown config
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Doesn't fedora have any live cd's? Because I would recommend Ubuntu only to my enemies :P
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: Ubuntu is bloat
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moshu Tech: yes fedora 11 has a live cd os
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Try Fedora 11 Live instead of Ubuntu...
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: Hell, try anything instead of ubuntu
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moshu Tech: I'm in linux admin I and were using fedora
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I agree
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: for some reason fedora11 live cd woudln't work. i think that was because my burner was dying in the process
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: woah its the religion channel now
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Is there anyway to calculate the intersection of two sequences?
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: any way
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: For instance, if I sequences ai+b and ci+d, where a,b,c,d are constants, and each expression gives me the ith element of that sequence
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thrilhouse Tech: do you want to know what terms are common? or do you want the value of i to be the same as well?
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Yes, I want to know what terms are common
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: You are describing linear functions, only one term will be common and it may or may not be an integer i
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I still want to use i to get the ith element of the new sequence
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Well
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Let me use a concrete example
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thrilhouse Tech: usher, that's why i asked if he wanted the same i value or not
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: This is a simple example: the sequence of multiples of 2 can be described as 2i+0, and the sequence of multiples of 3 can be described as 3i+0. The "intersection" (if that's the right word) would be 6i+0, i.e, multiples of 6.
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thrilhouse Tech: yearg, the interseciont will either be empty or another sequence
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Right
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thrilhouse Tech: and the difference between terms will be the lcm of the 2 differnces
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: The intersection of 2i and 2i+1 is empty, for instance
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thrilhouse Tech: so all you have to do is find if there is a single element
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: The answer is: C.   Always pick C if you don't know.  *nodself*
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Hmm, I'm not following
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: What do you mean by a single element?
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thrilhouse Tech: i mean you just need to find one point in the intersection
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: if the teacher is a total bitch, its always D
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thrilhouse Tech: call that k, call the lcm of a and c l, then your sequence is li+k
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: You mean if I know at least one element which is in both sequences, I can get an expression for the intersect?
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thrilhouse Tech: yes exactly
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: ok, linux question, cause i can't find the answer. I have my network set up with a regular router, and a wireless router piggybacked on it. I can connect in windows to the one comp not on the wireless router by typing in the ip addy in run. How would i do the same thing in linux?
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: The intersecting sequence will /not/ be of the form ai+b, at least not in the general case
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thrilhouse Tech: as for finding if there is a sequence, we want to solve ai + b = cj + d where i,j are our variables, rearranging we get ai - cj = (d-a), which is solvable exactly when the gcd of a and c divides (d-a)
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thrilhouse Tech: of course it will be of that form.. a sequence is characterized by (if a, b in S, then a + i(b-a) in S for all i)
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thrilhouse Tech: and that's well behaved under intersection
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Hmm
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: staple: What distro?
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: it'll be fedora
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I see, Thril
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i just want to make sure i can do it before i install it tomorrow
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: But I think I tried to simplify the question too much in that case
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thrilhouse Tech: heh :) i've done that many times
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: You can do it through ifconfig. All the man pages should get you there. Thats the hard way
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: wireless uses iwconfig
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: I'm not sure what graphical network config fedora has, I imagine its nothing too far from what you'd expect
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thrilhouse Tech: as a wild tangent, there's a neat proof of the infinitude of primes using the topological spaces of sequences
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: Oh, good catch. I just saw 'router'
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: yeah we talked about the infinity of proofs today in class
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: and if you take the product of the known primes and add one you get another prime, or some such
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: hmm, I'll have to look at that, Thrilhouse.
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ifconfig/iwconfig are how to get onto the network itself...connecting to a share on one of the (nonbrowsable) computers would be done with smbmount...if the computer is browsable, then places -> network & browse
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: abel: the issue with doing it the way you suggested is the way my routers are set up
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, the way I suggested works with the way your routers are set up...that's why I listed 2 separate methods
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: smbmount will take IP argument
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: ok, how will that be any different than my windows comps connecting? if i browse the network in xp i can't see the comp i need to connect to, but if i type in the ip address it shows.. i might be minsunderstanding because i've never used linux before and this comp will be linux tomorrow
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, stapleface...read carefully what I wrote
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: ok, gotcha, so i would use submount at that point, correct?
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I gave 2 separate methods...one method for when the computers are both directly on the same router (browsable)...another method for when they're not (not browsable)...one is like going to network browse, the other is typing in the IP address
T1/r7/2009-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: correct, smbmount //12.34.56.78/sharename mountpoint -o username=USER workgroup=HOME, etc
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: is there a scripting language for mush client?
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: like tintin or tinyfugue?
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: lua
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i think
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: any place i can read the commands?
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i think on the main mushclient page there is a link
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: ahh so cant write aliases with command line?
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: must use gui interface?
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbtopic_id=120
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: well, you can kind of make aliases with the command line.
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I know a forum post somewhere had an alias that made aliases easy.
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: oh balaam...btw i downloaded a gains monitor script from your webpage...when i finidh a cp is it intentional that it just says cp finished and thn says something like gold.qp?
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: yeah seems gui based
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: erm... that might be broken Cookar.  Can you note me what you see next time it happens?
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i can probably find it in history real quick lemme check
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=9705
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's where gammon posted an alias to make aliases
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: note posted
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: does he have a sw to make sw's? :P
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: runto vidblain ; run 10000n
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: Speedwalk too long!
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, wasn't sure where the limit was (and didn't want someone to *really* get stuck)
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I know they can be pretty darn long now tho
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: 1000 works
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: usually no more than 100, though, abe..
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: 9999 works
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: err
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: looks like 1021
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: yep
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: odd number to stop at
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dunno if that can be per direction...was doing it in a "can't go that way" to abort at 3 tries
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: total
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, su3s3ndn1012n is too long...I'm guessing it's 1024 steps, with a first step and a last step overhead
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: mushclient seems to work a lot slower on vista...
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miphut Tech: I cannot seem to get the Aardwolf Plugins from Mushclient to work.  Any suggestions?  I have Mush 4.40(Just downloaded it last night)
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Why don't you just download the package?
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: isn't the latest mush 4.43
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Latest release on the home page is 4.40, on forums it is 4.43
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: ah
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miphut Tech: I downloaded the Aardwolf zip file they had.
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i could be wrong, but you could download the mushclient from the aardwolf page which has the plugins, then reinstall the latest
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miphut Tech: Where in the website would that be located?
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: hrm i thought there was one on the aardwolf page guess not
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Porphyre Tech: click the 'play aardwolf link'
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miphut Tech: Thanks!
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: there are clients for mac
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Task Tech: test
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: there are client for windows
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: clients even
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Task Tech: bleh i cant type on this thing
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: that was a mis
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: this is a statement
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: that is a fact
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: only decent client i have found is atlantis. for  mac that is
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: this is a lie
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Task Tech: im using atlantis
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You rock, Airuk Tech: welcome to another funfilled tautology thursday on aard
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Task Tech: it isnt working
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: currently i use zmud on virtual machine thou
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: didn't like atlantis either
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: had the same hit enter before problem
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Task Tech: virtual machine?
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: i run windows on vmware
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Task Tech: how did you get get zmud to work on vmware?
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: eh?
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: there isn't any problems running it on vmware virtual windows
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Task Tech: test
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Task Tech: on this works
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Task Tech: cept now the terminal is set to white, and i cant read lol
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Task Tech: ok now i can see again
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Task Tech: i can read and see on mudwalker
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: is there any way to change my login name in cmud whenever i try to type Hadar it defaults to hadar for autologin
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: you can change it in the sessions dialog, edit session has an autologin tab
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you typed hadar just now :P
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: no im talking abour that linoge, it changes it to hadar insted of Hadar like i want it to be
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: Kinetic energy depends only on a particles mass and speed not its direction of motion  TRUE or FALSE? :)
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: look it up in your textbook *whistles innocently*
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: I'm reading the textbook, its a bloody awful textbook
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: no vocab lists, no clearly demarcated definitions of anything
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You rock, Airuk Tech: how would direction of motion matter? are there directions that inherent add or subtract energy? oO
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: just a whole bunch of colloquial BS
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: well I Was thinking gravity? if it doesn't move against an elastic thing? or umm I don't know
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: E = 1/2mv2 I thik
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: as the v is squared the direction is irrelevant -- good old pythagoras
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You rock, Airuk Tech: thanks you crazy greek cult leader
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: if you're book is rubbish, then you should try wikipedia
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: ahh ok that makes some sense
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: yeah I just looked it up in wikipedia
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: its more clear :)
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: the newtonian mechanics in there is all cool -- of course, this is not relativistic, no idea then
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: wolfram alfa is great for that sort of thing
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: alpha even
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: provide an example of kinetic energy that is without any direction
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: the question isn't whether it has to have a direction, clearly velocity implies that it does, but does it matter WHICH direction?
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: the kinetic energy is without direction
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: ok maybe I just don't get it quite yet then
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: tis a scaler quantity -- you can't have one quantity of kinetic energy which is at right angles to another--you can have one velocity which is at right angles to another
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: every example of kinetic energy is directed in some direction
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: that makes sense
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: 'kinetic' == producing motion == all motions are in some direction
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You rock, Airuk Tech: you're being pendantic.  the direction is completely arbitary, it doesn't affect the amount of kinetic energy in something. only mass and velocity affect that.
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: no kinetic means that it exists because the motion exits, not that it causes motion
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: Newton's are a scalar that require direction (or a=0 and so 0 Newtons) but Newtons do not have a direction
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: energy does not have a direction, it's a scalar quantity 
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: nor can it be non-positive
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chocolate Milkshake nods.
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: 'brownian motion' is usually heat energy and perhaps not exactly kinetic (yet heat is kinetic at the molecular level)
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: wow you guys teach way better than this stupid textbook :p
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: lol i've been using this channel for years, better then anything else i can think of :P
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: how odd, i generally get smart ass from tech
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: you have to know how to ask your question and if you get ignored or shunned you have to learn to ignore it and try later
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: or offer sexual favors ^^
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: that works too
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i'm trying to match: [4] Your cleave <-:-><-:-*-:-><-*-> SUPERNOVAS <-*-><-:-*-:-><-:-> a fox! [564]
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: with this: ^\[(\d+)\] Your (\w) \D+ \[(\d+)\]$
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i suck at regexp, anyone?
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: missing \s
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: ah
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: thx i'll give that a try
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: \w should be \w+
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and drop the \D+. use .*?
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: wouldn't i want .+?
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Same thing, essentially - personal choice.
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: ^\[(\d+)\]\sYour\s(\w+)\s\.+\s\[(\d+)\]$
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: better?
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: what's wrong with it?
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: bleh still not matching
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sikai pokes Seltsimees Dagnir in the ribs.
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hmm. You could swear Seltsimees Dagnir has been here just a second ago. You wonder where he went ...
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sikai patiently twiddles his thumbs.
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: . o O (  ) Habasi pokes you in the rear.
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm too tired to thing aboot regex right now, sorry
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chosig farts in Habasi's general direction.
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: no worries, anyone else feel like some regexp
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Don't put a \ in front of the .
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: woops
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: duh
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: http://viktor.juhe.ee/regex.pdf
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Other than that, it looks like it'll work (though \s when you know there'll just be a space makes it look a lot busier)
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: what do you recommend
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: http://regextester.com
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: isntead of escaping spaces
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: zmud has it's own little regex rules. the web stuff might not work
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: ya that's problem with regexp, every program feels like they need to implement it their own way...
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: everyone should just stick to posix or perl regexp and stop crying about library size
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: there is no esperegex
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: iirc, they're pcre compliant
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nefarian Tech: how do i make my mushclient window wrap the text?
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: does mushclient seem to work fine with Vista?
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: vista sucks. install linux
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: it's my work laptop, can't do that
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I have linux at home :)
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: does Windows7 suck yet --any reviews by the detractors
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you should. it's clearly a superior operating system
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: unfortunately, I'm stuck using Vista on this thing
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: is Window7 inferior or superior to Xp  (and without being more bloated than XP)
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no way. xp is way better than windows 7
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: same way like dvorak kb rules sholes
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: aka qwerty
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: dos 3.3 was better than vista :P
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Are duck t**ds superior or inferior to goose t**ds?
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: of course
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: size matters when you take a dump. everybody knows that
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: rofl
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: dos 3.3 sucked compared to dos 6.22
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: everybody should use linux!
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: Win3.11 was superior to Dos6.22 (yet included Dos6.22) 
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: i'd use linux, if i could be bothered to learn how to use it
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's easier to use than windows
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: Win98se is superior to Win3.11
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: people say that about mac, but i can't be bothered to learn mac either
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: depends on the distribution of course... I started with Slackware, which was not the easiest
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: Mac is restricted in the availability of some applications
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: screw that. tired of trolling. was hoping nuts would bait, but he hasn't been around for a while now
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: running windows 7 here and i like it a lot
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: remote linux shell is good enough :P
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: yeah that's why vista sucked so bad, to make people ditch xp for 7
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir nods.
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: how much more bloated in Win7 over WinXp
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: a lizardman conspiracy
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: around 6 gigs
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: runs really fast tho
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moshu Tech: its a elf conspiracy
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: forget running 7 on a 512 xp machine
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: no compatibility issues?
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: how many gigs total is Win7
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: only couple of apps. it's worth it
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: most devs have shipped out windows 7 version of software by now. it's coming out next week
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: actually runs faster on my current hardware than xp. haven't tried x64 version yet
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: Windows XP is already huge enough that there is no valid reason that Windows requires to become bigger, other than deliberate laziness perniciousness and incompetence in programming by microsoft ?
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm not going to bait this time
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but ms really got their shit together this time
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's me -> 2k/xp all over again
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: yeah it should have been called, vista, but vista got too bad of a name
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: yeah if they gave a free upgrade
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: err vista sp2
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: for my crappy vista
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: 7 is overpriced tho
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: im really annoyed i get vista and 1 year later a new thing comes out
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: Microsoft is deliberately bloating MS software to deter copying
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: like that ever stops anyone
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: some pirates are too cheap or too poor to purchase extra CDs and DVDs to copy the software
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: for windows 7? cha-right, they'll floggin it old-skool
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: besides, even if they do add bloat, give it a week and they have a paired down version for download
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: if they don't already
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: how overpriced in Win 7  -- in Canada, the standalone WinXp professional is $400 in box-stores
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: $400 is already grossly overpriced for an OS
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: 400 bucks? i didn't pay that much for this pc
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: do they really expect people to plunk down 400?
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: let's see, pay my rent, or buy xp.... hmm tough one
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: can't mud easily from under an overpass :(
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: true
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: finally figured out what was breaking my script :)
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: i wonder, if you pay 400 does xp still fail the genuine advantage check? :P
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: 'still' ? -- did microsoft discontinue support for XP
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: nah, i have yet to see an xp box that passes the check
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: xp boxes all fail the "genuine advantage check" ?
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: ones that come with xp preloaded seem to
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: jesu cristo, download wher eyeti
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: download 7 and crack it with the public key
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: nodnod
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: where do the preloaded xp-boxes get their updates if they fail the "genuine check"
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: they mostly don't.
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: i dunno i end-up putting my own downloaded copy, then set updates to manual, making sure not to install genuine advantage
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: that seems like fraud on the part of microsoft -- unless all preloaded xp-boxes are pirated versions
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: probably
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saric Tech: didn't m$ get sued over misleading advertisement for the genuine check?
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: at least in canada :P
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: hmm ms site say 120 for win 7 home and 200 for win 7 pro
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: pro has a lot more usable features.
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: ok, out of curiosity in case there's something i'm missing. My dvd burner on my laptop will read regular cd/dvd with no issues, i put in a burnt cd/dvd and it won't read it... any ideas
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: bleh. im getting so tired of this computer.
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: sounds like you got a bad burnt disc
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: no, the disk works fine in all my other computers
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: booted it on here without any issues, hell it booted on a mac.
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i put in the cd with windows running, and it shows that the disk is blank.
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: so burnt dvd/cd for fedora won't install because i have a retarded dvd-rom.. what are some other options?
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Ateam chuckles politely.
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: usb
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: floppy
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: but linux is so easy
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: doesn't have a floppy drive, and i don't know if the system will boot from a usb
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: where/how would i find out if my system will boot from a usb
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: BIOS
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: as it starts up, you should see the option to press some key to open BIOS, if not try just tapping del as it boots up
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: some pc's you enter the bios, some you can press f12 to select
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: or f12
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: optiosn are cd, hd, floppy, lan
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: tech so i'm assuming no usb boot support based on those selections?
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: yep
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: ok, is it possible to install fedora from lan? i've never done anything like that before so i have no idea where to start..
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: easier to buy new drive...
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sikai nods at Gramdel.
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: but yes in theory
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: or a new mobo that supoorts usb boot
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: it's a laptop
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: oh
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i'm not putting that much money into it when come tax time i'm buying a new one
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: get a usb to ethernet adapter?
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: there's some semi decent ones on newegg
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: probably $30-50 for a dvd burner
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: it has the option to boot from lan, i just don't know how i would do that
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: if your getting a new laptop, why are you trying to put linux on it?
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: Because it's superior
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: to what?
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: because i want to learn to use it before i get a new laptop and get pissed at it
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: ah
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: well good luck, i've seen a few people try linux on here, most give up after a few days of frustration
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: its not an issue with linux, it's an issue with my cd rom, and i'm not gonna spend money on it when i don't have to.
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: does afk prevent you from being kicked off for being idle too long?
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: more fool them
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: nope
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: anyone know how to write a basic mushclient script to keep me from being logged off when idle?
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: that i could run in town?
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: but your xp disc works fine?
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: Linux is for those with photographic-memories -- those Linux manuals are a pain
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: The only ones that are frustrated are the MUSHClient dependents who don't have time or knowledge to run it under WINE. I have never seen any complaints here about the os itself.
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: successfully running linux requires a certain IQ
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: all you need is a trigger that sends a carriage return every tick
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: it's like at a carnival ride, You must be this ------> smart to run linux without being retarded
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: you can install ubuntu over a lan, or from a minimal install that downloads the stuff it needs
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: but you could always try a livecd to see if it works with your equipment and to see whether you like it
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: iq is not the difficulty here -- memorising all that mostly irrelevant Linux crap is
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: I disagree. All you really need is a willingness to learn and a greater willingness to RTM
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: s/RTM/RTFM/
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: you've already lost me
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: as for which OS is better, it all rather depends on what you want to do with it
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: well, the issue i'm going to have with any version of linux i download is my cd rom won't read burnt media.. if i could fix that i'd be set.
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: install from a usb key then
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: Are you positive the burnt media thing is a hardware issue?
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: you could try updating your cdrom firmware, doubt that'll help though
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: from where did you get the burnt cd media
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moshu Tech: fedora site has a option to ship a disc to you also for a cost
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: which version of windows -- and was the burnt cd a closed session or a rewritable
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: omg this is such a jacked up way to install fedora, but it's gonna work! lol
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: somehow, my computer recognized and external drive to boot fedora enough to get into the gui to look for the image, so i'm using my nintendo ds to store the uncompressed iso, which i put on there using my printer, and as soon as it's done i'm sticking it in the laptop and praying. lol
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: god i'm a genius
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Does anyone know how to use the #format command in tinint, to take a variable of $Quest_Time (which is in seconds) and format it into minutes and seconds?
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: tintin*
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DekarShrike Tech: Is there anyone here who could help me with the spellup plugin for mushclient?
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: there's at least one already in existence
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: no reason to reinvent the wheel
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: especially if you need help doing it
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: if you just want to learn how to script, start with something easier
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DekarShrike Tech: Well, I got it off the main Aardwolf website and such.
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: a mature spellup script isn't easy to write
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: so if you have one, then why do you need to write one
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DekarShrike Tech: Well I asked if you can help WITH THE spellup plugin, not in making it... sorry if there is any confusion. >_>
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: oh sorry i misunderstoond
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DekarShrike Tech: It came with the xml file, but not the .mcl file its asking for.  Can I make a blank one for it or does it need the code in it?
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: He probably didn't explain it well enough.  That's the only reason he'd need to resort to shouting.
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DekarShrike Tech: I suppose I should of use *this* to emphasis instead of YELLING it like that, haha.
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sikai gets a blank look on his face.
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DekarShrike Tech: Force of habit. <3
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: in any case i'm pretty sure a blank one will work as long as you change the "name" field to 'Spellups'
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: and name it Spellups.mcl and put it in the Aardwolf folder
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DekarShrike Tech: Alrighty.  Thank you.
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: dunno why yours didn't come with one though
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DekarShrike Tech: Maybe mine is a little old?
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: probably, there's an updated one floating around somewhere.  written by someone by the name of Bast
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i believe if you look on the forums, on the last page of the spellups plugin post it has a link to it
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: or somewhere in there
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i'm pretty sure this is what you want DekarShrike http://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/Aardwolf_Spellups
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DekarShrike Tech: I think I got it actually... its not pretty but it'll work. <3
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sikai shrugs helplessly.
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DekarShrike Tech: and just after I said that, it proved that'll work haha.  Thank you tho. <3
T1/r7/2009-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: sure
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: what's an alternative client for vista? mushclient is causing issues
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: cmud
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: cmud?
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Zmud and/or CMUD
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: And/or telnet.
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: zmud's not supported, and I hear it don't work on Win7
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: not at all
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: zmud works fine on vista, as does MUSHclient if you set it up right
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: mushclient is really lagging on my laptop, especially with my speedwalks
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DekarShrike Tech: I use mushclient on a laptop with vista.  Works fine.
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pleiades, try typing "maprun"
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: ok
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: how do you turn on socials
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: They're always on.  Help social.
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: when i do a social to a friend it says they have remote socials turned off
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Me Wantee Freggle Tech: thats something THEY have set
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Ah, that's done via the rsocial command.  The other person has to enable them.
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: how do they set it
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: ahh
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: thanks guys
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: help rsocial ;)
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: have a question: i'm going to reformat my computer, and i want to keep my aliases and triggers and settings i made on my MUSHclient. so what i have to do is to copy the entire MUSH client folder out right? (basically i'm not sure if the client stores the triggers/aliases somewhere else cause i couldnt find them in some kind of notepad file or etc)
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: There is probably a settings file somewhere that you would need to copy
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: You could always export it as a plugin.
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: At least, there is with zmud, which I back up regularly.
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Alas, I'm not familiar with the workings of MUSH.
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: and for zmud is that file outside of the main zmud folder?
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It's in a subdirectory in the main zmud folder.
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Icaton Tech: what type of dvd's do you use to burn a video game?
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: The writable kind, I'd imagine.
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Icaton Tech: there isn't special discs to burn 360 games on?
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: no
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Copyright infringer!  You're going to HELL, son.
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Icaton Tech: weird
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: could be you'll need a dual layer dvd thou
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Icaton Tech: are those more expansive
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: i guess
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: 9.4gb instead of 4.7
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: but i don't really have idea do you need dl dvds
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: what's probably the easiest way to detect rounds in combat
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: prompt?
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: doesn't bprompt come up on enter though?
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: don't think so
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: hrm 
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: yes it does
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: oh oops when i was spamming commands it wasn't :)
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sikai P
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: any other ideas?
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: under most circumstances you should get a your blank does blank every round
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: ya but how do i differentiate
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: Probably could do it off of the health status of what you are fighting.
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: hrm
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: put it on dam 1
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: that way nothing to differentiate
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: if i understand the problem
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: cook, the problem with that is what if my cleave is unaffected
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: or whatever my melee is
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: and the problem with doing it off health is what if a round occurs in which neither me nor the mob do damage
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: turn on 'nostatus' and you'll see a health update on every round
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: hrm
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: yeah that will work :A Sunset priest has some very nasty wounds.
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: AH HA
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: brilliant
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: when the (spammed) commands are eventually done, then maybe an extra bprompt -- synchronise a timer to look for the bprompt nearest the anticipated round start -- may be affected by lag
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: just make sure to gag that
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: a timer could also probably work
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i think i'll try the nostatus one though
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: Could use a timer as a failsafe. If you don't receive a health update after X number of seconds, assume you're out of combat.
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: that's a good idea
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if the nostatus output eventually arrives regardless, then unaffected by lag disrupting timer anticipations
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: you're making this too difficult. Just use statmon. if position != 4, you're not in combat
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i'm not trying to detect if i'm in combat
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I put a status character into my prompt/bprompt to determine if I'm in combat or not.  It's a 0 if not, and a 1 if so.  Zmud keeps track of it for me.
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: oh well in any case that was directed to Peloso
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: those that use bprompt but no automatic prompt, do not get a prompt line when the battle ends and do not get the align-change update
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Their own damn fault if they do that, then :P
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I gave a suggestion that works.  Use it or don't use it, I don't give a rat's ass either way.
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: tsk, they seek to reduce bandwidth by not spamming prompt when not fighting, and you attempt to chide them -- you are suggesting that bandwidth waste be increased
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: anyone know off hand of good hash functions for memory address's besides knuth's?
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piesang Tech: hello tech
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: windows has a built in vnc server doesn't it ? like the remote assistance thing right ? or would i be better off using something like tigtvnc ?
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rau Tech: Yeah windows has rdp built in, I think you can only enable it for connections in certain versions though
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moshu Tech: The font on my local map, in mushclient, has changed. How would I fix that the Lua file in the program dir?
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moshu Tech: well I guess there xml files
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: is there any reasonably simple way to make the double type extend to more digits on x64? it only carries 16, like any boring double (i.e. if you assign 1.1 to a variable you get an error in the 16th digit)
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: you need bignums
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: no, too slow
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: use python
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: He complains about speed and python is your answer?
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: ya
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: it seems that if you do 1.1L you gain another two digits, which isn't bad, but is there anything else?
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: isn't the answer 42?
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: what is the application?
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: high-end scientific computing Usher
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: a bot!
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: I need about 20 digits - the problem is I have the errors building up only one way, so I gain an error in the fifth digit after a few million iterations
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: are you just multiplying things? Log space could help
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: I was sort of hoping 64 bits would help, but I get the exact same results as on 32 bits
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: Usher - it's simple addition
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: here's an example: I assign 1.1 to a double
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: and a cumulating systematic error from the looks of it.
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: the result: 1.100000000000000088817841970013
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: now, if you imagine adding 1.1 and 1.1 together a few million times, you're going to pick up that "small error" like mad
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: you don't need more precision, you need numerical analysis
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: no, I need more precision - I'm using a simple example here... I have a few million particles interacting here
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if the same amount of error occurs with 32 bits as with the alleged 64 bits, then something is deceptive or being converted temporarily to 32 bits
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: the problem is that the system heats up - because of numerical error build-up
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: the gcc manual mentions conversion of only ints and pointers to 64 bits, nothing about doubles there
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: i like pretending that i have a clue what this conversation is about..;o)
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: I've trying playing with -mfpmath=sse and the like - nothing
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: how big do the numbers get?
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: Usher - they're all order 1 in the end
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: tried fixed point?
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: i like pretending that i have a clue what this conversation is about..;o)
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: hmm? how's that?
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: oops, sorry. up arrow.
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: fixed point represents decimals exactly
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: I guess I'll have to google? :)
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: or wait till the end of dbl :)
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: sure - thanks :)
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: does it have to be in c? can't remember the casting for that :P
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what mathlibrary do the 128 bit encryption algorythms use
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: not really done much serious c work since the 90s
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: Chuft - nod, C
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: sorry, man, but try googling for casting, that's what you need
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: and RE: encryption - there's a very good reason stuff like RSA is slow
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: I need fast :P
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I could tell you how java handles it, but java is not an ideal language for complex numerical analysis
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: what you need is assembler
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: nah, c does fine
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: c can call assembler as needed
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: nod Chuft - everything was working well until I went to the big system, the numerical error is a killer
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: and some punched cards
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: though I'd consider redoing it in c++ if possible
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: good ol punch cards :)
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: yeah, reinventing the wheel with assembler is ... no fun
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I assume you're also using a 64 bit os?
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I don't know much about linux flavours
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: C++ is slow compared to assembler ?
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: anything is slow compared to assembler
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: with a decent optimising compiler, C is able to be reasonably near to Assembler (?)
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: you'd have to be damn good to beat a modern c compiler
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: so on this fixed point business
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: Chuft - nod, 64 bit, making comparisons to 32 bits in parallel - but 64 is the production system
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it -is- a 64bit compiler, isn't it?
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: yup
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: heh, had to check :-)
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: Target: x86_64-linux-gnu
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: and, btw, |UU|
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: there may be 32 bit code left in the 64 bit libraries -- lazy or incompetent or overworked programmers 
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: only library I use is libmath - pretty much the basic gcc suite...
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: fixed point is basically representing numbers either as denominator / numerator or just as a number which is later multiplied by some power of 2 or 10
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: you probably want to find libraries that handle all the silly details for you, but if you are only dealing with small numbers, it could be what you want
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: Usher - here's the problem... you divide an essentially random number by another essentially random number, you know the result should be somewhere around .1 - i.e. from 0.001 to 1.0 - what's the killer is that you use the whole set to solve a bunch of linear equations
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: here's the blast - if you have an error in the 16th digit - which seems to be the limit of precision gcc gives me with the options i've tried - that error builds up only in one direction over time
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: are there other compiler options without this issue?
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: And you are just adding numbers?
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: gcc is the only one I have ever used on a nix platform
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: and you are assuming that there are no errors and no defective lazy shortcuts in those libraries
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: Usher - nod, addition and multiplication, since they're carried out in one flop
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I always used the borland c++ compilers back when I was doing this kinda thing in the 90s
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: of course, I was just an undergrad, too, heh
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: so I reduced the problem to a simple "double d = 1.1, printf ("%.30f", d)"
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: h -20
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: right, float will never get you the number you want exactly
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: sure enough, I have an error in the 16th digit onwards
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: that's what i thought, illiden
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: and in my old age I am lazy and prefer java if I can get away with it :P
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: much easiler for most basic coding stuff, if nowhere near as efficient
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: nod Usher, I know. If I could move it to the 20th digit I'd be happy, it'd be out of my needs :P
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: if you can't deal with any inaccuracy, you can't use floats at all
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: how are things like "long double" assignd and handled?
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I don't recall,but would a type like that help?
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: Chuft - tried it, same result
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: now, if I do double d = 1.1L, then I gain another 2 digit
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: nogs, just an idea, but I am not sure how the compiler actually handles this stuff internally any more
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: been 15 years since I did any physics, heh
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: how many digits do you need?
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I'm getting almost as senile as farky
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: 20
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: just 4 short :P
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: how do you know you need 20 exactly?
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: in the end I can just ignore the error and limit myself to smaller number of iterations, but I'd rather try to find some way first :P
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: Usher - because the error happens in the 16th digit, and it builds up with every iteration. I do about 10^9 iterations, the error propagates to 10^-6
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: if it'd be around 10^-10, I couldn't care less
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: it's like, going from a pico-second to a microsecond in picosecond steps and picking up an error of a microsecond in the end, basically
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: That seems about right, epsilon is 10^-16 for long doubles. 
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: where are the numbers coming from? Do you know their average?
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: Or an estimate for the average anyway
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: nope. Basically, it's something akin to a molecular dynamics simulation
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: well, I do have an estimate for the final quantities of course, but in the course of the calculation - no, it's pretty random by nature
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: whats the big O on each iteration?
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: you mean order of magnitude of quantities?
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: I mean, if you add an averaging step to the iteration, is it going to take another order of magnitude more time
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocamide Tech: is there a total amount of energy that's known to be in the system? maybe after a few iterations you can renormalize everything so that the system's total energy remains somewhat constant
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: Usher - sec, you got me thinking
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: actually, if you know upper and lower bounds it would be even better
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: Cocamide - I can renormalize, but I need the system's memory in fine details, I can only average over different configurations at a given time
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: Usher, in principle I'm interested in anything up to 10^-10 at any iteration. So a cut-off is sensible - the first thought was "but that's just ignoring the error" - but that's 6 orders of magniture below my interest. Sort of my "resolution". So that's cool. Any fast way to cut a double past X digits? :P I'm sure not, it's represented exponentially, right?
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: like, add two doubles, but only addressing the first 10 digits - so that whatever error is beyond that does not accumulate
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I am sure you could code a routine in assembler to do this then import it into your existing c code
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: x86 assembler?
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocamide Tech: Timeghost: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_754-2008
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: if existing library datatypes don't handle it that might be the way to go, you'd have a lot more control that way
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: I don't think there is an easy way to do that with the binary representation
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: if he's only interested in the first ten bits, how badly would truncation errors affect it, better or worse?
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: you could cast to single then bring it back though. 
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocamide Tech: could you just keep everything as 64-bit integers?  just multiply all your numbers by 10^10 and scale everything accordingly
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Usher nods at cocamide.
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: chuft - not 10 bits... 10 decimal places
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: if you know the absolute bounds, work with ints and scale down when you want your solution at the end
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: dammit, 64 bit ints!
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: sorry, just throwing out ideas, 
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocamide Tech: i remember doing a continuous cellular automata that would screw up if i used doubles.  converting everything to long ints and scaling appropriately did the trick
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: I was still somehow focused on 32 bit ints, those only span 10^9
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: but 64 bit ints are up to 10^18 or so, right?
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: so what's the research this numerical analysis is in aid of? just curious
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: cataract disease
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: don't recall, tg, google it
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: oh? not physics then?
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: physics :)
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: there's a lot of biology in physics - and a lot of physics in biology :)
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: here is what I don't get, if its a molecular simulation, scale doesn't matter no?
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: aye, I know..just was never my focus ;)
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: Usher - oh it does
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: Let me rephrase that, its arbitrary until you want an answer
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I mostly did astrophysics related options in my higher level courses
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: if you're trying to simulate something big inside of something small (imagine a pea in water), you have a big discrepancy of scales in the system - you fix your scale to something, the other thing is either very big or very small :)
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: been some very interesting papers in that lately, too
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: find a method of increasing outflow through the release ducts to reduce iop may reduce cataracts (?)
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: until they manage to unify it all, anyway ;)
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: you have to keep the right ratios, basically - lengths, times, and energies
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: so I imagine that you are doing something with atoms in either a sphere or a box bouncing into eachother, that the right kind of thing?
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: all sounds a little bit too practical for me :P
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: sort of - I've got a solvent and the solute - the solvent particles are very small compared to the solute ones, the latter are about 100'000 times bigger in the best case in fact
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: anyway, I am afraid no further helpful suggestions come to mind
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: I'll try the long 64 bit ints!
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: do the solutes move alot?
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: yes Usher
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: what is the order of magnitude of their range?
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: does anyone have any microgravity experiments my team can do so we can win the Dime and Wing competiton? =]
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: well, the solvent is order .1 nm in size, and the solute is about a micron
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: how will you simulate microgravity? :P
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: lots of good crystal related experiments spring to mind
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: a small bacteria is a micron in diameter (?)
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: We'll simulate microgravity by dropping things
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: Illiden lives on the moon
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: its a NASA drop tower competiton
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: of, nfc then, the things I was thinking of take a bit longer :P
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Illiden - Want to win? Don't do an experiment. Find previous research that allows you to use your time to produce and return something more valuable than the cost of the flight. That would get the world's attention.
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: btw, the ints...
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: the CPU does rounding fast, but not dropping stuff past the decimal, right?
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: renormalize your space to ~10^-10 nm per unit, and 64 ints will give you ~ 1.8 meters. That should give you the needed range/precision no?
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: Right, CPU int will drop the decimal. Usually floor it. If you are just adding and multiplying though, its not so much a problem
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: Usher - that means tons of particles in my case, the larger the cells the less I have to simulate
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: Usher - from my profiling, the CPU rounds (floor or ceil) very quickly, but dropping anything past the decimal was very slow
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: i.e. 1.65 becoming 2 is fast, becoming 1 is slow
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: what do you mean dropping anything past the decimal? You mean doing something like (int)1.654?
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: profiling shows that (int)1.65 is replaced by a function call, which acts pretty slow in comparison to round
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: floor(1.65) is functionally the same as (int)1.65. Its odd that it would optimize one and not the other
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: I meant "floor or ceil" as in "round"
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: I'm sorry, I lost you
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: I was profiling two pieces. One rounded numbers, one cast them to int.
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: so, round(1.65) vs (int)1.65 if you will. Round was faster, and somewhere in the manuals I read that the CPU rounds naturally, but casting, i.e. dropping anything past the decimal, is slow work
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: nods, using casts is deprecated
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: actually, the real issue is probably tha the cast changes the type. Floor/ciel don't
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: well, i believe the _real_ issue is that what the cast does isn't defined, iirc, so it may not work the same on a different OS/compiler
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: So I could see why thats slower. 
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: Thats not a performance issue though
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: until your code doesn't work
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: so, let's see if I get this right. By converting to long int in 64 bits, I use up CPU time to get the int and get a round-off error at the digit that interests me. So I get errors not in the 16th digit but in the 10th digit in the end?
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: bonus is that the errors from the 16th digit can not propagate, but I don't know how much the round-off error will be
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: Converting a long int to what?
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: in theory they should cancel out, i.e. on average I'll be rounding equally up and down...
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: converting a double to a long int Usher - i.e. 10^10*value, operations, then back
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: oh... no, that might go off the rails. Multiplication adds another source of error
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: if I can cut off at the 10th digit, that'd be great - but either way it seems there'll be an error
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: the bit i was saying about 64 bit was this...
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: yeah, you're right
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: how big will these numbers ever get? max?
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: about 1
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: but per time step - which is the real problem - about 10^-3
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: 1 is a nice number. We'll roll with that.
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: everytime you take a number from the outside world, and put it in your system, multiply it by MAX_INT / 1
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: rint it to an integer
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: since you are doing just additions in your actual system, you can represent them exactly
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: after the 10^9 iterations, when you want results
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: multiply all the numbers by 1.0 / MAX_INT
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: you are going to take two hits on precision, one going in to the system, one going out
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: as opposed to the 10^9 hits you'd take when you propogate the errors
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: I'm doing only additions per iteration however, in between I have to do quite different stuff - which isn't a problem at all, it acts on summed up numbers, so the error doesn't matter
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: does that make sense?
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: so I have to cast before and after each iteration
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: if you have to, just make sure to keep both numbers, the exact ints and the inexact converted numbers to do stuff with
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: well, wait, the stuff in the middle, does that change the values for the next iteration?
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: if not, keep the ints around and reuse them for the next iteration. That way, you won't have systemic error
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: it changes the next iteration... I'll try the ints tho, thanks! :)
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moshu Tech: I just modified the mushclient xml files to add quest points to the stat window=) I am going to add weight next i think
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: just eat a cheeseburger with every meal, that should do it
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moshu Tech: that is true but I meant character weight to the stat window
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maaloc Tech: does anyone know if my TMC vote gets counted if i go through the aard homepage?
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: what is the trigger syntax for tintin?
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: anyone know wth the proper name is for table lamp/magnifying lens combo things is? 
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: or what to google to find them
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: #help action
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: Habasi, magnifying lamps? I just googled magnifying lamp and results look like what you want
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: hmm, maybe I shoulda just googled first. thought last time I checked I didn't find what I was lookin for.
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: . o O (  ) Habasi gallantly tips her hat to Drtoki.
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: those are exactly it, now to find one with high #x :)
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emir Icebergovich Tech: I've got this wierd behaviour on my computer... I cannot browse websites, but I can be online here, just became like that.... anyone know what it is?
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: web proxy settings wrong?
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emir Icebergovich Tech: can it change automatically?
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: Is it telling you it can't find the server at ???? I've had something similar due to a DNS cache issue.
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: This game takes virtually no resources. Minimal memory, minimal bandwith. All kinds of things could cause that.
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: this game also can be connected to via an IP address rather than a DNS address.
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emir Icebergovich Tech: nods, IP works, the adress doesn't
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emir Icebergovich Tech: so it could be some DNS problem, how did you solve it Lac?
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: yeah i've had my isp's dns go down, could still play here
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: try flushing the DNS cache, give me a sec and I'll look up the command. Also, you might try setting your DNS server to 4.2.2.2, 4.2.2.3 for secondary.
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: can try public dns server but they tend to be slow and unreliable
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: what OS are you using? Windows? What version?
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emir Icebergovich Tech: XP
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: Ateam, those are public DNS servers in the US, but they're run by Verizon, and they're also used as secondary Internet backbone DNS by the US military. They're much faster than others.
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: ah ok, much better then what i tried then :P
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: Icebergovich, open a command prompt and type "ipconfig /flushdns"
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emir Icebergovich Tech: done, no difference... both in Firefox and IE 8
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: if that doesn't work, reboot your modem and any router you might have on the network. (Yes this means logging off, but shouldn't take long.)
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: Are you using a router?
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emir Icebergovich Tech: yes there's a router here... but I'll do that tomorrow then
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: You'll likely find that resolves the issue within two minutes. My router's DNS has a configuration issue that I can't seem to find, so I have to do that a couple of times a week. :p
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emir Icebergovich Tech: Panda cannot perform updates either, but Windows can find updates...
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: better than the 3-4 times a day it used to be before I switched DNS servers. I think you'll find Panda's update routine uses a name instead of an IP--which would make it completely reasonable that it doesn't work when your DNS isn't working.
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emir Icebergovich Tech: it helped to reset the IE8 settings, made both browsers work
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: Cool. Not the same issue as mine, then. I don't even have IE8--never DL'ed it.
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: IE 8, what a name. IE ate my Vista machine. hahaha (sad, but true)
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: only problems i've ever seen with IE8 are plug-in related
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: apparently antivirus 2010 really loves it too
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: who?
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you talking about those fake antivirus messages?
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: they're essential vundo trojan variants. Nothing to do with IE8
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: and they arent "messages":P
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: i know that, but IE8 facilitates them quite nicely to idiot users that download it
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: no real different to ie7
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: at least from my experience as a techy at a college campus... have to remove that crap all day long
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kalsch is agreeing with that Feral Farkyss person again...
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: malwarebytes and combofix are pretty effective at getting rid of that type of infection
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: heh, IE facilitates many viruses and trojans. :p Those two programmes are good. A decent AV and malware program with regular scans is better at preventing me from wasting a half-day removing them.
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it doesn't facilitate them
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: i am 100% in agreeance with you farkyss, i would screw combofix up the ass if he was a guy
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: virus writers tailor their viruses to make it seem that way
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: it creates a nice pathway... maybe not "facilitate"
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: but you will get nasty shit more often in IE than in firefox
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: aren't you listening, kalsch? they tailor their viruses for windows boxes with ie7/8
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: they do that because it's the most popular browser
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: nods
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: nods that's like saying car manufactures help thieves break in your car because they're so good at it
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if firefox was the most popular browser, you'd see the virus writers making the pop-ups look like firefox controls
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: if your car manufacturer is microsoft and they create a little gap in your window about 3 inches long... then yes
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: you fail to see the point :P
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: there is no inherent flaw in ie8 that makes it easier to be infected
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: other than it is a microsoft windows explorer you mean
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Other than it was not thoroughly tested
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Other than it corrupts system files
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: ie8 and windows 7 have had the biggest public beta programs in history
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: gamma
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Public beta does not replace testing.
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: that microsoft employees are paid to find bugs, so they insert more bugs in the intial code
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: public beta -is- testing
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: initial
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: no amount of lab testing on it's own can prepare a browser for the crap that retards put it through
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: its actually not that hard to test browsers.... go to 5 different porn sites... and if its still intact... it is 100% good to go
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: the only way ie8 would have been impervious to any form of attack would have been to allow only strict compliance to html, and permanently disable all add-ons
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Language lol
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: OMG strict compliance to standards. What next?
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: most websites don't comply to strict dtd
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: got nothing to do with the browser
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: though the key thing is plug-ins
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aeral Tech: how do scripts work? Id love to use the autohunt one
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Anyone know a bug with tintin, that the client will open, but you can't do anything?
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: I've never experienced that. probably need to re-install
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Typcally when i open the client, the first thing it does is show the "built by..." message and such, but now i keep trying and i can't even get that, and i can't #read my script, or anything.
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Where can i find "cthelper" that tintin is apparentlt running, and can't shut down? I need to reinstall the client, but can't find this running program to do it.
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: the what...? are you using wintin?
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Nod wintin
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a sounblaster process
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: It won't run, i can open a putty session but thats it.
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try reinstalling your sound card's drivers...dunno why wintin cares about it though
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: ah, well.. I have no experience with wintin
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: I reinstalled the entire client, anyone have any ideas why i can open the terminal, but do othing in it. Enter no commands, anything. It won't even display the default message at begging, that says the creaters and such, but i CAN run a putty session..
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Update on the tintin issue, had a ton of infections in registry keys, once i cleaned them out the client works.
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Can you anchor an alias? I have #alias {evil} {$clanskill evil}, but its trying to fire when i type anything with evil in it, i was just waning if i could do #alias {^evil$} {blah}, i would i havee to type, literally, ^evil$?
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: or would*
T1/r7/2009-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: and waning = wondering ... (not my day to type well)
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skull Tech: any Dell laptop users ?
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moshu Tech: i am 
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skull Tech: have a min  ?
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moshu Tech: sure I will try to help
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: any suggestions on how to modify my spellup script to cast protection good before inertial?
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: always cast p/g first
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea, i'm trying to figure out how to do that
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: is p/g better??
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: oh wait
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: nevermind
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: darn alphabetical order in spells spellup always makes it update to behind inertial :(
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i don't know how the bast spellup script does it but i would copy that
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: anyway all you do if you have the old script is remove inertial from the list, then add it again it will be at the end
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: oh weird
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: what spellup script do you have lol
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: self written..
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: what client
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: zmud
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: nevermind then
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: Why spellup in alphabetical order anyway?
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: my script updates the spells list from spells spellup, and spells spellup is in alphabetical order
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: I can't see any advantage to doing it that way.
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: So change the alphabet around.
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: meaning?
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: you should change it so you have to add the spells yourself and just keep track of that list
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: What you can do is assign spellups a certain weight with a variable. So when it captures the spells you have, it'd favor certain ones first.
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: that way you can add and remove spells as needed
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i'm lazy to have to add and remove myself, i want it to self-update :p
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: you could use qspells spellup unaffected, and build a list from that
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: as well adding and removing a spell would add it to the end
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: And add an if statement where it'd just assign the spell a base value if you don't give it a specific one.
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: qspells is in alphabetical too
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: knock out the duplicate spells, check for spells that need to be cast in order or can't be cast on top of each other, and you're away...
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: That way it'd spell up in the order you want without having to give everything a special value.
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: the way abelinc's script does it:  he creates a variable for every possible spell and then unsets the variables for the spells that are already cast on you.  then he casts the variables that are left in an order of his choosing
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: Yeah, basically the same idea.
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i'd rather not rewrite my whole script ><
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: it's quite an elegant solution, really, but with qspells nowadays it's probably not strictly necessary
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: How do you store your spells? In a string variable?
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: Sorted list?
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: string list
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: in tinyfugue, you give each variable the same prefix, then recall all the variables that begin with that prefix.  not sure if zmud can do that (but it ought to be able to, really)
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Probably not -- after all, we all know TinyFugue is so much better than zMUD. :D
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: depending on your scripting language you could serialize
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: tf doesn't have arrays inbuilt, so you have to use tricks like that
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: So all you have to do is create a sorted list for spell name and weight. Then add an if statement before you cast that compares the string variable with the sorted list. (Should be the %iskey command).
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: sorting uses time though
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: If it's on the list, it sorts it in the order you want, if it doesn't, it casts after everything is done.
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: use tf+lua patch if you want arrays :)
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn goes, "Hmmmm."
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i'll probably just seperate a list of priority spells
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: having already dabbled in php, perl and C++, i'm sort of reluctant to learn lua as well
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: all languages are the same, just syntax that differs
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sikai is agreeing with that Chosig person again...
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: Well, zmud is kinda a pseudo language.
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: Zscript, at least.
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i would necessarily say the same... but... same enough
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: So if you're used to using that, it's a bit more complicated to go to lua.
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: yeah
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: zscript: #if (%1 < 10) {#echo %1 is less than 10.} - php if ($1 < 10) {echo "$1 is less than 10."}  - lua if a < 10 then print (a .. ' is less than 10') end
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: But yeah, you're absolutely right that sorting takes time, Anipopo. 
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Mosquito net
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Mis
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: are there any plugins that can make the mushclient window flash when minimized off a trigger so if i had one for 'your quest ready' the minimized tray window would flash like i needed to check it?
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: anyone know alot about mush client?
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skull Tech: alot , no .
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nick gammon!
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: looking for someone who knows any plugins to notify me if my window ism inimized by making the mushclient on the tray flash
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: like i could make a trigger off quest being available and it flash on my tray
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skull Tech: are you running Opochtlis script now ?
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: no, whats that
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skull Tech: take a look at it , hang on ill get the site.
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skull Tech: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~taramai/
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skull Tech: thats what I use
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: what does it do
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skull Tech: alerts for different things, quests,wars etc.... also keeps track of your game progress each time you log in , quests, hourly reports etc...
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: how are the alerts issued
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: sound or?
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: if i load this will it delete my old aliases in my old world
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skull Tech: I set a sound for mine , comes with a flashing screen bar , but not sure it works while minumized.
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: i see, i could use both sound and flashing screen bar
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skull Tech: Not sure Ketsui, sorry.
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skull Tech: second thought , yea I think it will remove all your work.
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Skull shrugs helplessly.
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ohoo Tech: Some spell triggers work perfect but some dont.I use Mushclient.With some triggers i need to hit enter to activate spell again, why ?
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: your question needs to be rephrased
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ohoo Tech: i am not good in english but i try again
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ohoo Tech: for example if  "detect invis" wears off it triggers it nicely on again
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ohoo Tech: but if "shield" for example wears off it shows me c "shield" where i type and i need to hit enter to activate shield spell again
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ohoo Tech: im sure i do something wrong but cant figure it out myself
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: you have the trigger incorrectly set up.  you need to change where the trigger is "sent" you have a number of options like send to world which sends it as if you entered it, and there's some other options
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ohoo Tech: it is in command line there
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: so change it to "world" or "execute" or one of those.  they'll do the same thing but a little bit differently each one
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ohoo Tech: i will try this out immidietly
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ohoo Tech: Thank you Sikai.Everything is perfect now.
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: yay, glad i could help
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: will ip filter in .htaccess in server root work recursively?
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fierre Tech: I think so, unless there is an overriding htaccess below it of course
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: k. anyone with a chinese ip want to try it out?
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: chinese ip's are the wrong colour
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: just banned all chinamen. too many bots
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: in mush when i try to retrieve a variable in python from a plugin written in lua, it doesn't like that, is there something i'm missing?
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I'll say yes, since it isn't working.  What type of variable?
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: it's the stats variable from xStatsDetector
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: err
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: variables i should say
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I phrased that poorly.  Is that a MUSHclient variable, or a Lua variable?
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i believe it's using the lua "var"
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: the only variable returning functions I know of only return MUSHclient variables.  Might want that stored with SetVariable before trying to retreive it.
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: but var.lua does use SetVariable
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: take a look at var.lua real quick if you can, i don't see that would cause problems
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are you using OnPluginBroadcast, as well as GetPluginVariableList?
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: ya
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: is that a no no
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, those would need to be used because you must keep grabbing the variables when the stats changed
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sikai nods.
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: ya i'm using those
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: if i just do world.GetPluginVariableList("(stats detector id)") it throws and error
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: not even assign it to anything
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: the second i make a call to GetPluginVariableList on that plugin, mush client start's throwing up "Type mismatch"
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: wait wait wait
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: ok i may or may not be a complete idiot
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: gimme a sec
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: can i guess which?
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: probably may
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, when you use GPVL in lua it makes a table with the variable names and their values...in python it just returns their names, and you must grab their values separately
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: ok now something extraordinary is happening, if define OnPluginBroadcast at all i get "Type mismatch" errors all over the place
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: def OnPluginBroadcast(msg, id, name, text): 
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: is that not right???
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: holy crap apparently i need to return 0 in python
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sikai sighs.
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you have 4 arguments for onpluginbroadcast in the definition? ahh
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: well sorry about that guys, thanks for trying to fix a problem that wasn't there
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: brilliant now it works :(
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: http://gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?id=7214
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: ya i stumbled on a post pretty much exactly like that
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: how frustrating
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: oh and abe, GetPluginVariableList works fine in python
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: doesn't python always expect a return code from functions?  I'm not very familiar with python, so I could be mistaken.
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, it works fine, it's just different
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: oh i misunderstood you then abe, and no python doesn't require return code
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GPVL in lua fully gives you both the list and their values in one shot...in python, you must iterate to grab the values themselves
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sikai nods.
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i got what you were trying to tell me now
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i thought you were saying i'd have to use GetPluginVariable("id", "variable")
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You fluffle Sikai mercilessly, making his fur a terrible mess.
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nefarian Tech: in mushclient, how do i get all the text to fit into the window even after i resize the window ?
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sikai smirks.
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: I think there is an option in game > configure > output that lets your wrap text at window size.
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nefarian Tech: ahh okay, i have that enabled for my main window but not the chat window
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ohoo Tech: Another question about buffups. When i type into trigger line "buffup" and then type most of my spells into send line so i can trigger them by simply typing buffup it does not let me do that. What did i did wrong ?
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: What client?
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ohoo Tech: mush
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ohoo Tech: it says Unknown command. Please check the helpfiles.
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Cntrl + shift + 9, make an alias that "buffup" will send what you want it to.
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ohoo Tech: i am prob doing something wrong thats all
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: You can also just use the "spellup" command that the mud gives you.
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ohoo Tech: oh didnt know here is a spellup command alraady :( Thank you.
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i have a timer in a plugin set to go off every 3 secs once in combat.  it worked great for a while, but all the sudden the timer isn't firing...
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i even reverted to a slightly older version i knew worked and it did the same thing
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: all the sudden the timer is firing like normal again wtf
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: it's like i turn i world.note()s to check variables and stuff and magically it works, watch me turn off the notes() and it break again
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: turn on*
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sikai sighs.
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i'm just gonna leave the notes() on for a while and hope it breaks on me or something
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: does anyone know a way to tell a spreadsheet that i want to always autosort a column upon any change of data?
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: on google docs sorry
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: is there a way in tt++ to gag session switchs?
T1/r7/2009-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: anyone know the character to make a sound in mushclient?
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dalrey Tech: anyone got a second to answer a muchclient alias question?
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dalrey Tech: mushclient rather
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: just ask it.
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: if someone can answer, they will.
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dalrey Tech: I need to know how to make an alias that works with and without a param.. so I can type 'ns target' to cast a spell.. but also type just 'ns' during a fight to cast on current combat target
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: alais ns (""|"*")?
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you just want an alias for a combat spell, just use the in-game aliases
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dalrey Tech: that didn't work
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Nod, listen to abe. The in game alias command works in all cases, and with(out) parameters.
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: no matter case rather
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dalrey Tech: it's also limited to a certain number from what the help file says.. i need more
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: only bother with client-side aliases when you need multiple commands or decision-making/logic
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you need more, you're doing it wrong ;-)
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dalrey Tech: not wrong, just maybe not how you do it
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Everything abe does is right, leaving all else wrong ;)
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not how I do it because i don't do it wastefully...
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: i have 3 in-game aliases, thats it.
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: with runto and spellup, I also can't see where you'd need 40+ aliases
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't need an alias for every combat spell you're ever going to have...
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dalrey Tech: this isn't a question of what you think I need. It's a matter of what I want. :) And I want to be able to make this alias work. 
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, at the moment it is a matter of what I think you need, as I seem to be the only one here that has the answer handy :P
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: I could roundabout it, but Lua was never my cup of tea.
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: are you on mush?
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dalrey Tech: ah well.. i'll figure it out.. thanks for the suggestions though
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're willing to listen and learn, I can help teach to make your Aard life easier...but you're right, you absolutely don't have to listen to anything I say
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Lol, man Abe was my goto guy when i still used Mush.
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and when you used tf ;-)
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Never used tf.
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: does anyone have any ideas how i could jury rig basts spellup script to include seconday clan skill?
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jyscal Tech: can anyone help me with a problem with the spellup script download from the aardsite. It gives the error:  Error parsing script (problem wth this file)
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jyscal Tech: anyone?
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: jyscal, the download from aard's page leaves out lots of steps for getting it to work...the original location for that file is http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=8780...also, bast has made some improvements to it, which are located at http://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/Aardwolf_Spellups
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tikuranari Tech: I have the spellup script from the aardsite.. And no problems.. What has been fixed/changed?
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jyscal Tech: thanks! I'll go to the site now!
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jyscal Tech: ok i downloaded the bastmush zipfile and unzipped to mushclient folder.(hope thats right!) and copied the spellups.mcl file into worlds. Is there anything else i need to do after this?
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: anyone know how to make mushclient not echo commands u input
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game -> configure -> commands
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: anyone know mush well? trying to set a variable from a trigger
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: hmn that guy with the vin check thing never got back to me
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: hey guys, anyone know a good site that shows how to make a simple water evaporator/cooler thing?
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: is is a bit rubbish
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: excel is formatting some "currency" cells as  $0.00__, and some as $____0.00
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: ctrl+a and set them all the same ?
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: fixed it by using 'accounting', but so much for consistancy
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: PaperTiger Panzer looks at Feral Farkyss and goes "Heh."
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thrilhouse Tech: yeah, i've had issues with excel formatting as anything other than custom
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: M$ products are getting worse and worse. dumbing them down as they do is really annoying
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thrilhouse Tech: the stock 2k7 seems to have removed the (xxx) as negative option as well
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thrilhouse Tech: so i pretty much always use custom formatting since i almost always want that display :)
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: is qemu with soft-mmu better than basic qemu?
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: Gesundheit!
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Voldemort Tech: why wont my playstation 3 make me play online
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: you haven't been a good boy?
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: its not the boss of you
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: is the conneciton working properly?
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saric Tech: woe be the day when machines make us do things
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Voldemort Tech: its telling me about some dum connection thing...
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: heh, well that job was cut short - access 2007 doesn't open any older versions
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: how lame
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: very much so
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: is Microsoft er Access 2007 ensuring that old software is nfg
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: not quite sure what they were playing at
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baccarat Tech: Does anyone know what would prevent the Bigmap window from functioning, even for the continents?
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: suppose i wanted the following addition to a script
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i have a trigger that is enabled at a certain point...as soon as it is triggered it disables....what i would like is a script
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: for?
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: that during the interim between the trigger being enabled and the trigger activating."catches" all incoming commands
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: and queues them up and doesn't actually attempt to exectute them until the trigger is disabled again
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: you mean a trigger to catch * from the MUD?
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: no
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: ok i'll be more detailed
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: ok gotcha
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i've written a script that lets me runto areas in vidblain
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: but the way it works is it activates a trigger that triggers off coordinates in vidblain message
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: then the alias will activate the trigger, runto vidblain, then coord
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: the trigger will calculate how to run to the area, then run from there and disable itself
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: sounds good
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: but if i spam directions between the time when i start the initial run and when the trigger activates
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: it messes things up
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: because it does the runto vidblain and coord
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: then does my spammed directions
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: have a look at the speedwalk que
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: then executes the calculated run.
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: ahh ok
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: it's in the help files I think it will do what you're looking for
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: hmm not sure if i understand how that will help or maybe i'm looking at the wrong helpfile (this is mush btw)
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: I just know that speedwalk has a command queue you can work with
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: there is a script function: Queue 
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: there is a script function: Queue ()
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: that sounds promising
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: because i would like it to catch all commands not just directions
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: if that does not work I am sure you can do what you what you want with a script, just can't think how
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: I have a vague memory of using it to send Tag commands one at a time, so give it a go
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: but if there is a glitch and the queuing is never disabled ...
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i think all these queu commands aren't exactly what i'm looking for but i think i can do this by setting up an array and an alias that catches thigns to that array while waiting to trigger...
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: probably better then you have control
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: ahh i figured a very simple solution i think gonna give it a shot
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: so here is the solution i figured up...when that trigger is activated i also activate an alias that matches *...then it setvariables stack to "tack".."
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: so here is the solution i figured up...when that trigger is activated i also activate an alias that matches *...then it setvariables stack to "@stack".."semicolon".."%1"...then at the end of the trigger, it disables the alias, executes stack, then setvariables stack ""
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: since the delay i want isn't based on time but rather the completion of a trigger, i figured that is better than queue
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: ok i thought this would work
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: but it isn't
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: first of all my alias is being activated fast enough to catch the command that activated it...which makes no sense
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: An infinite loop kind of thing?
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Process Tech: dude don't rip the fabric of space-time or anything
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: what i mean by this is lets say i type imperial...in the imperial alias is enablealiasgroup("vidblain", true), which basically starts catching commands in a queue
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: but for whatever reason at the end the queue starts with imperial...which makes no sense
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: the command catching was not active until after i typed imperial
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: so it shouldn't catch the imperial command
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: not only that
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: but at the end when i am disabling the command catching
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: and trying to exectue the list of commands
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: it's probably being split into two. Once to the client and once to the mud. It takes longer to send to mud than to client.
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: but still the second i press enter after typing imperial, the command catching should activate...so how can it possibly catch itself? it wasn't active until i entered the command
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: its like some sort of time machine
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: you enter the command, press enter, command is sent to the client which activates whatever you set up, then passes it to the mud. It will pick up that very command again once it gets passed to the mud
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: ouch
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: thats really messed up
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: any ideas about how i can fix that?
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: or work around that?
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: tell it to catch everything except imperial? 
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: can if then statements match wild cards?
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: In Lua?
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: yep
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: If i recall correctly, i think they cna.
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: can*
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: like lets say i had the regular expression for imper(.*)...that would be true for any imerasdasd?
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: k maybe this is my fix
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: What do you mean by matching wildcards?  If then statements can only match boolean values.
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: if GetVariable("blah") == imperi* then blah else blah
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: not like that
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: need to use lua patterns
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: which are a pain in the ass
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: wlel i would regularify the imperi*
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: That really doesn't work.  Take a look at the note I sent you yesterday.
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: figured that might be related :(
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: or check out the Lua tutorial pages I keep posting here.  http://lua-users.org/wiki/TutorialDirectory
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: this is dumb though...the alias that is activated by me typing this command should not catch the command that activated it
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: that makes negative sense
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: erm...  what's this?
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: trying to make my vidblain script a little more user friendly
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: he has a trigger that activates a catchall alias which sends commands into a queue
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: the way it works right now is it turns on a trigger...runs to vidblain and does a coord....then the trigger calculates the route to desired area and turns itslef off
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: err not a trigger, anotehr alias
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: the problm with this is that if someone start spamming directions in between the first run and the trigger activating it messes things up
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why are you typing directions in the middle of your script trying to figure out where it is?
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Ateam Tech: sounds like a lot of work, i'd just buy a triv portal and make sw's with that :P
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chicomecoatl laffs.
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: for when you get to where you want
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Just use coords.
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: well lets say i'm running to ultima and know i'm going to be going a few doors up
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i am using coords
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: it automatically gets me there
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Then where is imperial coming in?
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: the only problem (this is user friendliness)
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: is that if you spam directions before it calculates the route
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: it messes things up
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: chico, if he's going to imperial, he types imperial...that turns on his "use coords to find imperial" se
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: chico, if he's going to imperial, he types imperial...that turns on his "use coords to find imperial" set
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chicomecoatl slaps himself on the head and yells, "DOH!"
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that set is now grabbing anything he types in case he types directions to screw himself
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: you have to wait until it starts running to imeprial within vidblain before spamming directions or it screws yp
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: I keep forgtting star wars renamed.
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sikai ruffles Chicomecoatl's hair playfully.
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Can't you put a delay on the following commands?
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: not the end of the world if i can't fix but i think it would be more user friendly if you could start spamming directions the second you typed imperial
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: So that they get send after the walk starts?
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: that seems clunky...i think only delays i can set are time based
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: this whole rigmarole was to get a delay on them using alias/trigger
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, since you've already gone through the trouble of making the queue, why not just drop the first step before executing?
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Im sure you could make a function like the #pause and #delay in other clients.
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: just put in SetVariable("stack", "tack".sub("tack".find(","))'
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: where tack == @stack and , is a semicolon
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: @w
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: ;
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: going to try this but
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: like this; or this; or even this!
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: ; in mush you can get the semicolon by putting ;;
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You clap at his performance.
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: hey look at me i'm fancy i can type semi colons
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: in zmud you use ~;
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in tf, you use ; :-)
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: in tintin you use \;
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: If you see Dashiell peers at you intently. 
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You giggle.
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i tried \; and that didn't work so i gave up
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: that's because tf has no return character :P
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it doesn't?
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: If you see Dashiell sniggers at your actions.  Gawd! How can he be so downright OFFENSIVE?
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Abe
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: knows
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: stack
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tf
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: nah, I'm just kidding around. I'm sure if you work real hard you can script one :P
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Saric rests in a corner and mutters 'spam' quietly to himself.
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chicomecoatl claps at Aberration's performance.
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: . o O (  ) Habasi smacks you out of your boots with a sign reading "UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH"
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Hmm, who did i get?
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, my new whipping boy
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Becuase it said "her" on my end.
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: I think you hit Abelneus
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aberration
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: nope, aberration
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: I'm sure it was Abelneus
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: abel used to catch lots of my stuff
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: If you see Dashiell points excitedly at Aberration!
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: #sub {Abberatio} {Abelneus}
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: it said Aberration.
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: . o O (  ) Habasi points excitedly at Abelneus.
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: getting compile errors when i try your suggestion sikai
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Heh, spelled Abberation wrong.
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: New character Abelneusn
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: Yeah, you did. :D
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: yes, but Abel will default to Abelinc before Abelneus
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: SetVariable("stack", "@stack".sub("@stack".find(";")))
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: tell it not to throw errors
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: nod, got lazy and did *clap abe
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: If you see Dashiell renames to Abelincs and spouts off.
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: thats the line that i have 
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: [string "Alias: "]:1: ')' expected near '.'...should that . be ..?
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: oh ya stupid lua
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i've been using mostly python lately
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Man, the dummy strings and the .. always gave me hell in Lua.
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i hate lua :(
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Me too.
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: tintinscript ftw
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chicomecoatl . o O ( Since the language has no /official/ name. )
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i'll stick with python thanks
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Thats why i love tintin. #script {python} {blah}
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: oh
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i've been meaning to give a look over in tintin but i'm so comfortable in mush
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i can't get this to work even adding periods whatever...screw user friendliness
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: all my scripts and everything are here
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Speaking of tintin, anyone know how i can make it not gag my outputs of anything with scripting language in it? Like if i put #run {blah} {blah} i won't see any of the rest of this until i do tech -h
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: wat.
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: i actually run a python session from tintin using #run python python, very powerful
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: aha, this is likely it -- > [VERBOSE      ] [     OFF] Messages while reading in a script file are gagged
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Wait .. if its off it shouldn't be gagging them.
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: What does that do? Gnidlohnad?
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: I mean i know what it does, what purpose does it serve.
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Hmm, thats odd. this didn't output anything. --> #script {c++} {#include <iostream> using namespace std; int(main); cout << hello << endl; return 0}
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Japanese Japanarama Tech: does anyone know how to stop the auto login with z mud? i dont know where it is and i dont ahve a chance to get to another charecter because it automatically puts me into the char i had when i first got zmud
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: look in your triggers for ^What be thy name....
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: in the character window highlight the icon for aardwolf session then click edit, you can change disable it under the character tab
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Japanese Japanarama Tech: is that under file? edit? view? ect
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Japanese Japanarama Tech: What button is it at the top of zmud
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: file/open , will bring up the character window
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: click the classes button at the top, should open a window. there's a little barely visible handle thingy on the left with 2 blue arros on it. click that it'll open an M$ folders type pane, turn autolog off
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: actually that may not do it, but that's where the triggers are, you can just disable them by right clicking and unchecking enabled
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: does #<session name> <command> work in wintin?
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: #ses <name> <ip/website> <port>
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Ahh, you mean like if you have two sessions, aard and test?
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: yes.
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: for example
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: nod, #<session mae> command
T1/r7/2009-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Also #all <command>
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: what is the proper syntax for capturing the damage out of a line of combat i've tried putting a ~ and everything
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: in zmud
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: if you want all damage you probably need regexp. If you want just your damage or just mob damage, you'll want to use a color trigger
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: anyone tried/using haiku?
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: When I access Youtube using my Wii, I get this weird stripped down version called Youtube XL (or LX or something or whatever) which is Youtube, only it has less features. So what's up with that? Special version for stuff like the Wii, iPhone, etc.? And is there any way to access the normal version of Youtube through the Wii?
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's your useragent
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: anybody that know how to use OpenOffice Calc that can tell me how to proper-case columns? (ie. i have some 16000 rows ALL IN CAPS, that I want "All in caps")
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: erm...  retype them?  :)
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: In some other colum, make that "=PROPER(B2)" or whatever cell.  Then fill the whole column with the formula, copy that new row's values (not the functions) and paste.
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: ok Balaam, i'll try that
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yishiro Tech: I have troubles with Atlantis client for Mac. Need help..
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: in Excel (or OO.org's Calc) is it possible to: If G = "" set K = "Bifocal", if H = "" set K = "Toric", if G and H = "" set K = "Normal"
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: as if H14 = "2.15" set K14 = "Bifocal" - G15 = "1.2" set K15 = "Toric
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Godsmack Tech: the "hunt" command tells me the exact location of the target..not a general direction..so im wondering if there is any mapping algorithm used anyone know about it?
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yishiro Tech: I'm using Atlantis client in macos, most of the time my first command sent seems not to be sent to server or smth, because it just returs the game prompt.. So I have to repeat commands twice in order for them to work. Anyone knows why?
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yishiro Tech: I'm using Atlantis client in macos, most of the time my first command sent seems not to be sent to server or smth, because it just returs the game prompt.. So I have to repeat commands twice in order for them to work. Anyone knows why?
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: anyone know why my sound card stops working if i leave my linux box on for too long?
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it's linux
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: which distro?
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: gentoo
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: could try switching drivers from alsa to oss or vice-versa, see what that does
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: hmn how do i turn sound on in oss?
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: its been a while?
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: is there anyone around who can give me some guidance for connecting a win 95 computer through a router to a vista machine for ICS? 
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Ewww, why?
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: because i got my kids a laptop for 40 bucks, to play around on, and I'd like them to have access to the net.
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: been so long since I used win 95, I don't remember how lol
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Ahh.
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Hmm, are we talking a wireless router, infared, or direct?
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: wired router.
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: it's a wireless router but I'm using it wired
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: if he's ics'ing with win xp as gateway, it needs to be on one plug of the router... otherwise the router goes to modem and they both go to router
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Does 95 even have directconnect capabilities?
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: not using xp, using vista/95
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: can't you just make the router give ips to the clients and set the default gatway on clients to router?
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: not sure, i'll check into it,
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's pretty much the definition of router...otherwise it's just a modem...
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: I dunno
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: does anyone know how to put an asterick into a trigger in mushclient?
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: \ *
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: prayer?
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: the \ slash?
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: \ is the escape character so use \* for a literal asterisk
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: ahh my trigger is working now thanks
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: one more thing
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: do you  know how to write output on the same line and omit the original line?
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: or possibly add the output after the current trigger line 
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: like lets sya johnny tells you 
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: instead replace it with stupid johnny is trying to talk to you but you're ignoring him
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: not that i have someone i want to do this to, but this is an example
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Mush?
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: yup in mush as well
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: little check box in trigger that says omit from output
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Then do a echo of what you want it to say.
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: how is an echo done?
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: echo <message>
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: ok thanks
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Its a mud channel
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: There is also the client-side note option
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: for mush scripts use send
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: note("<message>")
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: wait, echo is mud side?
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: yeah
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: not, note is client side
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are echos both MUD and clientside
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: not = nod
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: hmm im having issues attempting to use note
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: can someone give me an example of a line with it or even colournote
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: @RTest would give you Test
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: If that's what you're trying to do
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: thats mud based though correct?
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: note("@Rhi there") -- hi there
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Yeah it's mud based
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: note is not mud based
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: hmm am i missing something like an option that should be on for note to operate?
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Oh, I thought he was talking about using colorcodes while writing a note
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: change the "send to" to "script" instead of "world"
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: ahh ok
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Make sure all the rest of your stuff is Lua syntaxed
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: use send("<commands>") to send to the MUD
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: ok so i changed it to script output
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: the problem is its not showing the note, as well as the omit output is no longer working in world
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: What are you having it do? And im not sure why the omit isn't working,.
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: ahh when i turned off regex is screwed it up
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: That would do it.
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: basically im just trying to do that note thing to echo something from client side to my screen
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: but it keeps inputting to the mud and saing that is not a command
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: so the client isnt recognizing the commadn you gave me
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: the note( thingy)
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: It shoudln't if you changed it to script
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: you need the "" by the way
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: i see, when i change it to script it no longer omits and nothing appears on screen
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: yeah thats not being recognized
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: its note("<message>")|
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: ok the omit works when running as script, but the note is not appearing
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: it still omits the line i wanted to
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Copy what you are putting in your client, so i can see what you are doing.
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: did you set it to send to "script after omit" (last option) as someone mentioned earlier?
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: ahh that was it
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: script after omit
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: but its showing hi there
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: er not the color but the at symbol 
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: and the R
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: its showing @r hi there?
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: @R is not used by MUSHclient.  You need a ColourTell for that.
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chicomecoatl nods at Blessed Balaam.
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: i figured it wasnt
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: colournote right?
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Like ColourTell( "red", "black", "hi there" )
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: note("".. ColourTell "red" .. "Hi there")
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: ColourTell, ColourNote, whichever.
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: That won't work, Chico.
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: nod, mine isn't right.
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: oh ok
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: probably because of all the 'u's
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: . o O (  ) Habasi runs away in utter terror!
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Now i remember why i quit using mush.
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Mush's syntaxes suck.
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: only when used wrong.
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Stick it Inicus snickers with Blessed Balaam about their shared secret.
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Mushclient syntaxes are pretentious crap 
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: yeah the syntaxes are annoying
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Xyliz, shut up and go somewhere else where someone will care what you say -- echo channel is preferable.
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: balaam can you give me an exact sample of a colournote to make a line of text in red
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: im having issues , an error with mine
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: ColourNote("red", "black", "Hi there")  -- I think
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I already did.
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: whats first and second color?
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: [19 Oct 23:05:39] Balaam Tech: Like ColourTell( "red", "black", "hi there" )
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: ahh ok
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: first is fore, second is back grounds
T1/r7/2009-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: ColourNote( foreground, background, text )
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: anyone know how to make a carriage return in a colour tell or note?
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ketsui, just make a single-line colournote, then hit enter to have a second line, and have a second entire colournote line
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: im having 10 different triggers go off that omit various lines and they are bleeding over 
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: like line1 then next line is line1endline2
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: like the end of line1 is there
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: just hitting enter will fix that?
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: to add a spaced line?
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: ok
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: whats happening is the line is 2 lines instead of 1
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: because the output window had a return and that somehow is making my trigger give out 2 lines instead of just 1
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: how do i make it all be just one line
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: basically i have a trigger outputting 2 lines when it should output 1
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: is there a way to make it so 2 lines in the results window will output as 1 line instead of returning since its too long
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: the result window is very narrow and its forcing me to line 2 easily
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: line1\nline2
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: hmm
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: is there a reason im seeing {chan ch=tech} before tech
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: before all channels im seeing this stuff
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: because you have tags on and haven't gagged them out.
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: how did i turn them on
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: probably automatically if you used mush at any point
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: Mushclient turns them on by default for most channels.
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: do you know if zmud has the map plugin?
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: is there one written for it?
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: is it possible to write a trigger or alias into mushclient without having to use a mouse?
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: like into the command line? 
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: alt+g
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: i mean like zmud how you can write triggers in the command line
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: hmm does anyone know if zmud has plugins for aardwolf?
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: for the map as well as other various plugins?
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: hmm
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: anyone know how to fix this prefix showing {chan ch=tech}
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: help tags
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: something with the tags command
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: its like that for all my channels and im thinking its a mud issue
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It's not an issue, its intentional.
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: test
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: ahh thank god
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ticles
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: why would it be intentional
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: For writing triggers.
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: Ketsui, you could type tags off.
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: i see
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: testing
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: test
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: i need tags i think hehe
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: For logging channels, or for dumping chat to another window
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: if i made a trigger that was like this * a monster, will mushclient recognize that space in front of a
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: so it would realize if i wanted a trigger off a monster in a sentence as opposed to one when i walked in a room and it had no space in front of it?
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: and not trigger off walking into the room but only if the 'a monster' was in a sentence
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: hmm
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: well that wont work with (white aura) a blah hehe
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ketsui Tech: is there a way to turn off the status of the monster given each round like 'a monster needs a hospital
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: don't you hate it. X gives you code A and B and says "All done, except for a bug in code B that needs sorting"
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: then you find code A doesn't work at all and code B doesn't exist
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: makes you want to tell people to sod off and do their own code in the future
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: sod?
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I don't tell people to sod off.  It would make them think I'm Brittish or something.
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i'm sorry, timeghost won't let me use anything stronger
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Try whiskey.  It helps and can be plenty strong.
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: whiskey for dealing with people, not communicating with them.  It certainly doesn't help with the speaking clearly.
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: except to moose
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: does anyone know what would be the problem if a motherboard does not power on normally, but powers on without the CPU +12v connected? 
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: every few minutes I think there is some kind of autosave and it says that (Mushclient file location) permission is denied anyone know how to turn off that autosave feature or whatever or how to allow access
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: it is rather annoying
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're on Vista...you have 3 options to allow it to save...(1)turn off UAC, (2) run MUSH as admin, (3) install MUSH somewhere other than program files
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: yes I am and thanks a lot
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: UAC is changed in users control panel...to run as admin, right-click the shortcut that you use to start MUSH
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: whats VAC out of curiosity
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: oh ok
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: VAC is so annoying, i turned that off withing 10 minutes of booting vista
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's the thing that came out in Vista that keeps asking "Are you sure?" ;-)
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: user account control
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piesang Tech: ok i know we not allowed to talk about other muds on aardwolf but is it possible for some 1 here to tell me about another mud (i just want to see what other muds are like aswell)
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piesang Tech: hello
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You rock, Airuk Tech: Go to sites like http://www.topmudsites.com/ or http://www.mudconnect.com/, find a mud that looks interesting to you, try it out.
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You rock, Airuk Tech: They both have top 10, top 20 lists if you wanted to check out other popular muds exclusively but there's tons of muds out there.
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: so opinions.. palm pre vs. blackberry storm
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: pre
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: paper and pencil... with or without tomato cans and string.
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: CMUD question. Anyone know how to timestamp a like that's #CAPtured to another window?
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alexxa Tech: hi i made a char on m phone and pc. Bt the pc char wont work on phone and the phone char wont work on pc. Whats up wit that?
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: so, anyone know, off-hand, a way to be sure that my laptop has survived being spilled on?
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: turn it on?
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: that would be my first instinct to check it
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: press each key
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: run the mfg's diag
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: last night, some of the keys were flaky.  so far, those same keys seem to be responding normally.
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: doesn't seem to have one.
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: beyond the post, I mean.
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: pray
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: Checked the website?
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: well, I disassembled it, looked for liquid, blew out any dust (there wasn't much), and re-assembled it.  not sure what else to do.
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: who was on it that you distrust to much?
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: me. :)  I spilled on it, and I'm trying to decide if it's ok, or if I should leave it off for a few more days.
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: ah. WHen did you spill on it?
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: well now that you've turned it back on, supposedly any remaining water would have continued to damage it
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: last night.
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: about 24 hours ago.
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: not sure how much got inside the laptop itself, but some of the keyboard keys were weird.
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: it was pretty much pure alcohol (vodka), so I'm hoping that helps rather than hurts? ...
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: It does both.  Alcohol is pretty volatile, so it evaporates quickly.  But it's also a fairly powerful solvent.
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: solvent....meaning, potentially eating away at connections?
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Also, Vodka isn't mostly alchohol, its only about half alchohol, if that
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: I doubt that...
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: the solvent eating through things I mean
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: ah.  so the rest of vodka is what?  water?
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Mostly, yeah.  Other trace chemicals are probably too small to matter.
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod..... Depends on what its made from, though most of it is made from potatos
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: bugger.  but if I've already turned it on again, then supposedly I've done whatever damage I'm going to do?  or is this the kind of thing where I can cut losses by leaving it off again?
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Well, anything's possible.  But the former is probably relatively more likely.
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: ok, next question: anyone know a good place, other than ebay, to track down replacement laptop keyboards?
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: maybe something like tiger direct or newegg, i have no idea
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: http://www.sparepartswarehouse.com/ <-- i've ordered a few pieces through them, but its been a while
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: thanks.  appreciate the help.
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: I do not like Google sites. It does not let me create a "real" HTML page, but forces me to use an WYSWYG editor that prevents me from writing advanced HTML code or scripts.
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Porphyre is agreeing with that Asterax person again...
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: I don't know. Should I try to trick it and just upload an HTML attachment with my code and use that?
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Porphyre Tech: it won't work
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: Crap.
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Porphyre Tech: google needs to offer free web space with FTP
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: Didn't it, at one point?
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyreens Tech: Can't you do that with google code?
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Porphyre Tech: yeah, they phased out google pages and moved everything to sites
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: Maybe not with FTP access.
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: Right.
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: which mud client has better capabilities for scripting and configuration, cmud or mush?
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Whichever one you like better.
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: they both have benefits and drawbacks.
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: what kind of benefits and drawbacks?
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: usually good benefits and bad drawbacks.
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyreens Tech: heh
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: ):
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyreens Tech: I believe Cmud has it's own scripting language where MUSH you can use a variety of languages
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: MUSH is free
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I've always prefered MUSH for scripting, but others prefer cmud.  Really depends on what you want.
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: cmud also supports Lua now, I think.
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: yeah it does now
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: which one has more premade scripts for aard
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: zmud or mush
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: dunno
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Technically MUSH, since the AardMUSH client is really MUSHclient with a few plugins.
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: But there are certainly tons of cmud scripts out there.
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the basics are done for cmud, but zmud and mush have 10 years worth of scripts for aard
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyreens Tech: it's finding them that's tough
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger davos for some for cmud
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyreens Tech: I could just be retarded though....that's a very good possibility
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I guess it has an in-client script repository browsing now
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: one of the toolbar buttons should activate that
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: i see
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: I've installed gammon's campaign campaign tracker, but it isn't coming up at all, I upgraded to the latest mush client, reinstalled, exited/restarted, nothing.  any other clues how to make it work?
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: I'm trying to make triggers for hunt, but it doesn't always like what the name the hunt message uses for mobs. Any better way to do this?
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: What client?
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: tt++
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: use the one on my site, and convert it to what you need.
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: I could make it remember the name i give it and just loop, but thought there might be a nice trick
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: taking yours is a nice trick :)
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: I thought you would like that idea ;)
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: Whats your site again? I think i was at it before, but didn't save it
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: chicomecoatl
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: er, not what i meant to type
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Its in my finger
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: ah of course. I forget that info isn't in whois
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: I turned MUD prompts off, and all my gags are off, but I still get two line breaks in alot of places. Anyone know how to make that not happen?
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: make a trigger to omit ^$
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: think thats your prob
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: regex trigger btw
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: That would kind of collapse everything. Maybe I'll turn prompts on and then just gag them
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: collpase what? It should just kill blank lines
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: It kills all of them though, including maps and places where I want spacing
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: oh I see, then yeah best to make gag for prompt
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: is really a bad idea now I think about it but I have it
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: I gag all extra lines with ^$ and it really doesn't screw anything up at all
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: the tt++ manual says that '#if {&{variable}}' will indicate if a variable exists. is it full of it or what?
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: Obviously not working for me
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: that only works for 1.99.7 and up. If you're using an older version it won't work
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: You need to do #if {"the roadrunner" == "?target"}
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: hm. of course call the target variable in place of roadrunner
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: ah. Got it. Killing roadrunners?
T1/r7/2009-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: meh, quest target :P
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: does anyone have experience with using a trigger to generate a hyperlink?
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not sure what you mean, but in zmud you can use pattern matching and #url
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: Oh, I forgot a key detail, it's for the mush client, sorry
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: The website has a url plugin already.
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: heh. why i like zmud. most of the time people help you with scripting instead of just pointing you to a website :)
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: yeah, agreed, and I'm not trying to set up URL hyperlinking, but in-game hyperlink
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: sort of like the help window plug in
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: ..what..?
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: you like zmud because the website isn't helpful?  Odd :p
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no. the helpful website is great for most people, but i usually aim to create my own solution
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: hehe, I don't come to tech unless I'm absolutely stumped, i.e. just spent the last 10 hours reading the website, now I'm just looking for someone experienced with the (send) hyperlink command
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Hyperlink ("http://linky", "text", "mouseover", foreground, background, 0)
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: ok, I did pretty much that, but it just sends as output, (non-clickable)
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: let me try a few more things and I"ll be back if it's still not working
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: The last number is whether or not it is a URL.  that may have to change.  Let me check.
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: looks like it should be 1. would make sense
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: ok, also, do you know if there's a helpfile anywhere on the hyperlink command?  I cannot seem to find one
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/function.php?name=Hyperlink  (it's the website, just to annoy Dagnir)
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: hehe, thanks
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I think 0 is for a command, 1 is for a url.
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: ok, I think this is what I needed, thanks!
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i was talking aboot mush users always redirected to pre-written plugins, not the scripting reference :P
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: is there an easy way to record your moves with the mush client, for future use in a speedwalk?  (especially if I use the keypad to navigate, as command history does not record this)
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no path recording feature?
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: wow i never knew you could navigate with keypad
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir raises an eyebrow at Cookar's weird actions.
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: most clients let you, Cookar.
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: shrug when i first started mudding the client was telnet :)...guess i got stuck in my ways then...this is pretty cool though maybe i can retrain myself
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: it's way faster and easier cookar
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: could use tinyfugue, which is a sort of telnet on steroids
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: yeah just fooling around it seems super fast
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: I have really gotten used to it now, my mud client also used to be telnet...
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: i switched from telnet at t0r3, never looked back since
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: only tihnkg i'm struggling with is up down getting used to which is which
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: heh, Anipopo, I've used a client for years, but I started mudding in 1992.
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: can't really compare telnet with tf
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's same like saying that a nuke is a hammer on steroids :P
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: haven't used telnet in  years i guess just have never looked at all the features of clients
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: hate how it pulls my hands away from important keys, but it is much faster for navigating...
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: are newlines considered whitespace in pattern matching?
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nope
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: how do you match newlines then?
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what implementation are you using?
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: fubared zmud implementation
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: then forget aboot newlines
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i've used conditional triggers as a workaround
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: how are you supposed to capture a map in tags if it won't pick up newlines?
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: seems like a bit of a design flaw
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's zmud, man
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: look into conditional triggers. that's what people have done afaik
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: can i not somehow use #gag to send the next x lines to a variabel?
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: no
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: trigger on the MAPSTART and gag that
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: then inside the trigger, make the second state "loop lines"
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: have mapstart activate trigger that matches everything and turn it off with mapend
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: inside the loop lines state, loop 20 lines or so, and try to match on MAPEND, if not, capture and gag
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: who wants to volunteer how i can clear the status window in zmud?
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: disable the script that is displaying
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: the issue is there's some crummy text at the top of it from when i was playing around with it. Those trigger are now deleted, yet the text is still there
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: and nothing i do, even quitting and relogging, will get rid of it
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i can't even redefine the status window, #stw {} just displays it
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: quit, delete the window file
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i can delete all the lines from the status window except the first line, which is the one i want to get rid of
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: there are probably better ways for this, but it should work
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: zmud is aboot workarounds :P
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: delete what file
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: shock, nothing on the forums for it either
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: does anyone know how to change msn password
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: status window won't have a window file
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: it's not a normal window
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: huh?
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: if you are displaying something on the scree that means you have another #stw somewhere
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: I just want to chnage my password
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: type "#stw" on the command line and see what comes up
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: none of that had to do with your question Cocopops
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: oh ok ... sorry thought you're responding to my question 
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: well that was nice of it
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i find refernce to the errant line in the .mud file, delete it, then it won't connect and claims that the .mud file is corrupt
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: not only that, but it has wiped ALL of my settings, including the backup file
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeppo Tech: to change your msn password goto "accountservices.passport.net" and select credentials, change password
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: yeah don't count on the zmud "backup" files, cause they really aren't
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i back up .mud files myself. only way to be sure
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: i bakup my .mud file and map file 2x week
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: so tell me why i can go into my classes on zmud, make changes, click SAVE, the changes will have been made, go back into them later, and the changes will be unmade, so unless i click cancel, it'll undo them again
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: how does that work?
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: and why did zugg see fit to put a 'feature' in that when you start editing a script in one place, it'll suddenly jump 12 lines down the page at random?
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: . o O (  ) Habasi rolls on the floor laughing at Feral Farkyss's antics!
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: who wouldn't want that
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i hate when i'm making too much progress.  i need something random and annoying to slow me down
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: that line jmping thing is an annoying bug in the script parser
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nogs, guessed that
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: give cmud a try and see if it's any better for you
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i don't want cmud
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i paid for zmud
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: but you'll love cmud
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i need to find a new fixed-width font, too now, since i can't fit everything on the screen at 15pt
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: why would you pay for a mud client...
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: to support the developer, i suppose
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: no tags for weather?
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Nope.
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: spose i could make some
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Nod. Could always make a list of weather messages and just sub or show tags to work with.
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: or more simply, given that the weather is always 3 line of text, just do weather triggered on the tick and capture the next 3 lines
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: anyone around that can help with a math prob?
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: spout it out and we'll all have a go
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Could work, what is it going to do when no weather messages show though?
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: give you the "can't be seen indoors" plus 2 blank lines, i'm guessing
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: I need to take 2 numbers divide them and always finish with a whole number while keeping the ratio between them the same
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: please quote the problem more exactly. 
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Blainer: What client and does said client have the equivalent of the tintin #format command?
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: a = 123, b = 456, a / 1.1, b / 1.1, a and b need to finish in whole numbers Ican fiddle with the starting values
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: is there a way I can modify a and b starting values to ensure they always finish in a whole number while keep the ratio between them?
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: is this a math problem or a programming problem ?
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: programming, I am re-sizing an image but the prog trims decimals
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: probably nead to work with modulus 2 = 0 in some aspect
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: need*
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: or atleast when I give it decimals the aspect ration screws up
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: I was hoping there was a number sequence I could use to make the numbers I start with come out whole based on the number I divid them with, am I looking at this wrong?
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: I know how to go the opposite way. I can get the decimals in there when the program doesn't by default, not sure how to reversee the process though.
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: okay so I need to stay w/Verizon so I can't get the Palm Pre :(  Blackberry Storm or HTC Imagio?
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: anyone know much about microphones?
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: depends
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: 4 to 6 people sitting around a medium sized dining-room table. What sort of mic would be needed to sit in the middle to pick up the conversation in reasonable clarity
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: It is best if everyone is mic-ed, honestly. If you're worried about clarity.
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: I guess the better question is: what mics do you have?
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: non
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: one boundary microphone should do
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: err none
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: how about pressure-zone mics?
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: that is a boundary microphone sort of
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if i were recording to a laptop and wanted to use multiple mics, MUST i use a small mixing box, or can i just use a bunch of 2-1 adaptors?
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: Why not purchase a cheap digital recorder (re: Olympus Recorder) and an iTalk adapter (your cheap mic) and transfer it to your laptop via USB afterward?
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: That's what we do at my work, typically.
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: want to take the least amount of equipment as possible
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: Well, you don't need XLR cables, a small mixer, mic stands or physical mics with the Olympus Recorder/iTalk method.
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: zoom h4 has nice sound
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: and decent mics itself
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: syncing up the different streams afterwards would prove tricky
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: of course you can use external mics with it too
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: do the cheap recorders offer decent quality recording?
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: In my experience, they have.
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: You can always go back and edit the file in Audacity afterward.
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: well... what's the recording for?
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: i mean the zoom is really nice, not really cheap thou. like 200
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: the olympus ones start at like $40
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: I have used Olympus Recorders to record academic classes for professors and have not had issues with sound quality. And $40 is about as cheap as it gets, unfortunately. Maybe Amazon's third party sellers will sell it for cheaper.
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I have this zMud (7.21) trigger that keeps on getting disabled for no reason. It's one of those triggers that even if they're enabled, they're still see-through and really light. Any idea on what's wrong with it?
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i'm going to call Zugg and shove something spikey up his backside
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: there is a way to disconnect from an ssh session without killing the backgrounded apps. Anyone know how offhand?
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: screen
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: run screen, or tmux
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: then you can detatch, log out, log back in, and re-attach
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: just run screen from within the ssh and then dc?
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: log in via ssh.  run screen.  then run your apps under screen (using multiple windows/terminals, etc)   then ctrl-A ctrl-D to deatch screen and log out.
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: then log back in via ssh, then run screen -r    to re-attach to the old session
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: got it, thank you!
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Any know why the new version of TinTin refuses to do dual sessions?
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chicomecoatl's bot program is activated by Sikai and he rolls over on demand.
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: I'm trying to connect to the test port, but the second session, test, only shows up in the first three lines of my screen, my splits.
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: is there anyway to get mush client to not clear the buffer when you hit enter?
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: try Game->Configure->Commands AutoRepeat
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: ty :)
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: ok its super super annoying that the aard mush client makes the bigmap appear and reappear, can I just turn the thing off somehow? it makes my main window lose focus, too.
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: haha u should be using telnet its more fun :)
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: xzx the 1990's called, they want their tech back
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: lol yeah im outmoded haha
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: maybe I'm just not seeing it but   What determines the default location that winamp saves the media library to ?
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: for anyone else who may be wondering the answer is options->media library->cd ripping->output file settings
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: In tintin, i know you can use %w as a wildcard for one word, is there one for any number? since %N and %n don't work
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: try %d
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try d
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: digit
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Nod, d works, thanks.
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Stands for digit, i assume?
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Well, abe already answered that lol.
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, it's standard regexp, used in zmud & tf as well
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: #help action lists all lazy matches available
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Ahh, i looked in #help wild
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Which didn't help.
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: is google down?
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Process Tech: not for me
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: weird... I haven't been able to get to it all evening
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: haha, for some reason that made me laugh
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: thank you.
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Process Tech: do you often laugh at the misfortune of others?
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: yeah, that's what she said :)
T1/r7/2009-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Process Tech: cause i do and it's pretty great
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Is there ever going to be a way to block DHTML popups?
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Using Firefox at the moment.
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Assumedly with a greasemonkey script, at the moment
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: I'm trying to put an AddAlias command inside a Hyperlink, but it's buggy, any pro's who can see what's wrong? -- Hyperlink ("AddAlias("%2 (%3).", "%2 (%3).", "", alias_flag.Enabled, "")", "Add alias", "Add alias", "blue", "green", 0) 
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: http://hackles.org/cgi-bin/archives.pl?request=108
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Vaugely amusing.
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: did they change the way cmud handles time triggers where #trigger {00:00:00} {gt its midnight!} wont work anymore or does cmud have to be set for 24hour time for that trigger to work?
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: So, if I upgrade to Windows 7 Ultimate from Vista, all my programs, files, etc, will still be there, fully functional, or no?
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: typically it's best to reformat and start fresh when installing a new operating system to insure everything is working properly
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: Well yeah, but that doesn't really answer the question.
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: they should be, but i would count on it
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: clean install is the way to go anyway
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: whatever
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: wouldn't even
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: anyone use windows 7?
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayudeme Denglish Tech: I do.
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: and. . . How do you like it?
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayudeme Denglish Tech: Hmm. I don't really do much with it. Compared to vista I like it a lot better. It runs a little more effeciently.
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayudeme Denglish Tech: It's still trying to be all pretty, but that doesn't bug me as much as other people.
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayudeme Denglish Tech: Haven't had many problems with it at all. And it runs Aard
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyreens Tech: It looks like Mac OS
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyreens Tech: it's pretty quick though.
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: Ok. Thanks everyone
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: I laughed at 'It runs aard'. Its not exactly "Will it play crysis?" But close
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ayudeme Denglish smiles happily.
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waterhouse Tech: I have the Mushclient and I'm told that I need to get some scripts to get what's displayed on the screenshot on the webpage...
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waterhouse Tech: Is it possible for me to download just the scripts?
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyreens Tech: I think if you downloaded the Aardwolf MUSH version, it should have them all preloaded
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: yes if you downloaded http://www.aardwolf.com/play/downloadmc.htm then they should be installed
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaymez Tech: does that version come with the spellup other plugin?
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: no
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waterhouse Tech: The thing is I already have the mushclient from before, so I'm pretty sure I don't have the scripts
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: read ^^
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayudeme Denglish Tech: Where can one get the 'spellup other' plugin?
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbtopic_id=108
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waterhouse Tech: I have some reading to do now apparantly, I'll come back later
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waterhouse Tech: Have a nice day
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rithlin Tech: Anyone have or point me in the right direction for a million mob script for zMud?
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: does anyone know if it's possible in mush client to run a script, "AddAlias" within a Hyperlink, so that if you click on it, it will make an alias?
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: has anyone found that cmud is noticeably slower than zmud when parsing long lines, like statmon?
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: cmud has a half-second lag every time a statmon needs to be parsed
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: its coded in delphi
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You rock, Airuk Tech: I haven't noticed that at all, I parse statmon continuously for a stat window among other things.
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: so is zmud..
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: yeah zmud was also ridik slow
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You rock, Airuk Tech: You might want to see if you can narrow it down and a post a bug to zugg
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: hmm use telenet u get no lag 
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: hmm...maybe something else is wrong with my cmud then
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: I get no lag w/ tintin either
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Nod, tintin is great.
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: does anyone use gauges in cmud
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You rock, Airuk Tech: I do
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: do you use vars in the caption?
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You rock, Airuk Tech: Yeah
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: do your captions sometimes....not evaluate?
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You rock, Airuk Tech: hrm... not that I've ever noticed. it's always just been what it should be. I use 5 gauges which track 9 variables too
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You rock, Airuk Tech: hp/mn/mv/xp tnl/status and mob hp percentage are what i track
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: hmm....maybe...do your gauges use vars, or db records
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You rock, Airuk Tech: Just vars
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You rock, Airuk Tech: Do you use dbrecords? I was reading about some overhead that cmud has to do when it queries a database
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You rock, Airuk Tech: which can slow things down
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: ooh
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: that might be it
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: i keep statmon in a single var
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: so you use seperate vars for everything?
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You rock, Airuk Tech: yeah I used Xioustic's statmon package in the library, then wrote my own thing that displays a stat window like the aardclient but that is just built on top of Xioustic's package.
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You rock, Airuk Tech: its all just individual vars
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ologn Tech: I'm looking for a media player recommendation please, VLC is messing some things up :)
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I'd reccomend VLC, so I'm probably not too useful. What is it messing up?
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: gom player is also, goo
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: i use mplayer, does the job well
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: good*
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ologn Tech: after uninstall and reinstall, has no controls, can't right click on videos
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: there's a fix for that, I Forget what it is tho ! :(
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i remember having something like that...a google search fixed it though
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I dunno. I've always just used VLCPortable.
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: Hmm. So scripts that output text when first installed do not crash MUSHclient, however scripts that output a window immediately crash MUSHclient. any way to stop this?
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: scripts == plugins
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: i have a pdf file which is comprised of like 100 .jpg files a friend of mine sent me. he doesn't have the original images anymore. how do i split it back?
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: file -> export
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: using Adobe Acrobat?
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: even just reader can export images
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: yeah, acrobat reader
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: the new version doesn't have file-export. been lookin for it
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: http://www.zamzar.com
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: online file conversion. 
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stapleface Tech: sweet. thanks.
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: anyone know how to make tinyfugue not get disconnected every 37 minutes of afk?
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Abe would
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: trigger a carriage return off of tick
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: set up a timeer?
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: oh, he doesnt like me
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: s/timeer/timer/
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: /repeat -0:10:00 i /send %;
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: put that into your start file & you'll stay online for weeks
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i dont have a start file
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, why run a client if you're not going to use any configuration
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: for color support
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: telnet's got plenty of color support
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can just paste that in every time, but easier to use a tfrc file
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ok, a tfrc file sounds easier
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I have it set up to have a .tfrc for preferences (/more off, /visual on, etc), then have an aard.tf file that calls the various script files...the aard.tf file is called from the world declaration
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ok ...
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: so... do i just touch an aard.tf 
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: and later on, type tf aard.tf ?
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: or what?
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Drtoki facepalms
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: abelinc normally i do a tf aardmud.org 4010 and it loads up
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: how do i do that different to get this start folder too?
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tf ships with an example tfrc file in the tf library directory...copy that to ~/.tfrc and modify it for your prefs...
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ok, lemme do a find
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I have it contain a line "/cd ~/.tf-dir", just under where it says ";;; Enter the directory where you keep your tf files."
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so all of my tf files other than the tfrc reside in ~/.tf-dir
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: hmn, i don't have one of those
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: abelinc i dont have a tf lib directory?
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: brb, gotta close the windows
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you do, you just will need to find it
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i just tried a find / | grep tf
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: locate testcolor.tf
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: locate command not found
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You snicker softly.
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: abelinc my system is maybe too borked for tf
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Drtoki gasps in astonishment.
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, linux systems that don't ship locate suck :P
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: abelinc k.
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: find is too slow traversing everything every time you want to find something
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: yeah but since find didnt find
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: at any rate, where did you install tf? do "which tf"
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: /usr/games/bin/tf
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try ls /usr/games/lib/tf*
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: cannot access /usr/games/lib/tf* no such file or directory
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thrilhouse Tech: is there a way in mush to get the chats that are captured to not appear in the main window?
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: thrilhouse, type chats echo off
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thrilhouse Tech: excellent, thanks
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thrilhouse Tech: haha, now it just puts a blank line :)
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you install tf using a package manager? the package manager should have a "packing list"
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: hmn, is /usr/ports a package manager?
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: thrilhouse, there should be a plugin "Omit_Blank_Lines", make sure that's enabled
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes vampire
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: then yes, yes i did
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq15.html
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: kheftiu yes, i have that downloaded
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: pkgadd keeps record of what's installed where if you use it to install
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i didn't use pkg_add
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i did a make search KEY=tinyfugue
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: and then a cd / somewhere and a make build 
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: and then a make install
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that should still have updated the database
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ok
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thrilhouse Tech: thanks :)
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the directory where you did the make should have a PLIST file
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ok
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that shows where every file was destined
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: would it be maybe easier to just make a new tfrc instead of cloning the one it ships with?
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, because you will really want to know where the lib directory is
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: since all i need is the don't lag out thing?
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's TONS of cool stuff in there
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: can i see if my running client knows where /lib is?
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: somehow?
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try /listvar TFLIBDIR
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: /usr/share/games/tf-lib
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, interesting, the binary is /usr/games, the lib is /usr/share/games
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, cp /usr/share/games/tf-lib/tfrc ~/.tfrc
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: done
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: remember where the lib directory is though...you'll want to go browse the files there eventually
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i see
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: so what's the command to put in the .tfrc to not get lagged off?
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: now you can pico/vi/emacs/favorite editor ~/.tfrc
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: right, i use jedit
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude uses jedit.
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make the directory for where it is cd'ing into
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i don't need to cd at all do i 
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i was just gonna put it all in one file, i only use one mud per mud client
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you don't have it cd, then it'll expect everything to be directly in your homedir
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: oh, so i have to have it cd to the regular /usr/share place?
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: even with only one mud, it helps to not have all scripts within a single file
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I use ~/.tf-dir
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i dont have any scripts
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, you'll be fixing that :P
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: in the meantime, can we make it not lag me out?
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "tech -h repeat"...paste that line into your running tf for this session...we'll be putting that into another file soon
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i already put it in my running session
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: but my computer crashes lately
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: despite running a kernel
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ick
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: yeah i know :/
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: edit a file ~/.tf-dir/world.tf
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: k there.
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: now?
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: put in the line "/addworld -Tdiku.mud aard vampiredude YourPassword aardmud.org 4000"
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: done
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: now you can just type "tf" and it'll connect to Aard and log you in
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: even though my tfrc doesnt point to that directory yet?
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: don't i need to cwud/cd first?
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, you want /cd ~/.tf-dir in your .tfrc file
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: where in my .tfrc , at the bottom?
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's already a spot for it, where it says "Enter the directory where you keep your tf files."
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: hmn k
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: k its set
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: do i need all those /def files to be in my dir?
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we'll also make a file ~/.tf-dir/hook.tf, with the line "/hook CONNECT {aard} = /load aard.tf"...that says "when I connect to aard, load aard.tf"
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they don't all need to be, it'll just ignore the ones that aren't there
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: done
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can put the /repeat line into an ~/.tf-dir/aard.tf file
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: the /repeat line went how
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: /repeat -0:10:00 i /send %;
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which just means "repeat the command every 10 minutes, indefinitely, and the command is just a blank send"
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: k
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so every 10 mins, it hits enter
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: and that will keep me from lagging off idly?
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and that's enough for Aard to not kick you off for idling
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: cool.
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: the next thing i wanna set up is an auto-respell self trigger
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ^_^
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: and then i'm all set until i remort
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for that (and mostly any current/new scripts), I recommend using tags
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: tags, k
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: turning on spelltags makes a single trigger able to handle autorespells
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: cool.
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: but i only have 2 spells
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, oh, didn't notice you were sc war
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: yep
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude flexes and proclaims that warriors just plain rule!
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: cmud has extreme issues with capturing statmon
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: extreme like it crashes every time i try to >.<
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: What's wrong with it?  Too much info at once?
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: it doesn't.  What are you doing?
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: capture statmon? i don't know why it crashes...:(
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: what's your pattern?
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: http://www.funnyordie.co.uk/videos/ef83afc272/hosting-your-windows-7-torrenting-party?rel=player
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: ^\{stats\}(\d+)/(\d+),(\d+)/(\d+),(\d+)/(\d+),(\d+)/(\d+),(\d+)/(\d+),(\d+)/(\d+),(\d+),(\d+),(\d+),(\d+),(\d+),You are ([^,]+)\.,(\d+),(\d+)/(\d+),(\d+)/(\d+),(\d+)/(\d+),(\d+),(\d+),(\d+),([-]?\d+),(\d+),(\d+),(\d+)
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: did that go through
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: well, it captures sometimes, but when i restart cmud, it crashes as soon as i enter my password
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: copy/paste statmon into test window, the pattern matches?
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: the capturing part works, but it acts as if there's some infinite loop when cmud restarts
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: well then what's the code?
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: perhaps there's an infinite loop :P
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: possibly a regex issue.  Zero issues for me if I use the zscript pattern matching and let CMud convert it
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: wait, it might be my capturing of aardprompt
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: i think it might be....trying to do #addkey on a dbrecord that doesn't exist? could that cause a crash?
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: nope, it would just add it
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: well not in my cmud it doesn't
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: what happens if the dbrecord exists, but is disabled
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: not entirely sure...test it?
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: it either does nothing or creates another variable, I forget which.
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: it crashes every time i do it >.<
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: weird
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: cmud makes me sad
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: does it crash on any use of the #ADDKEY or just when trying to work on a disabled varaible?
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: just on disabled or nonexisting vars
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: which version you working with?
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: off the command line too?
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: cmudpro 2.37
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: oh, let me try command line
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: maybe go into the default session and see if it works there.  If it does, you have a bad layout or something
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: in Microsoft Excel say i have the same name in like 10 rows in 'A' do i use filter to "group" them so that it collapses down to one row?
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: i don't think i quite understand cmud packages...where should i put my stat variables so gauges in another window can see the vars?
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You rock, Airuk Tech: you can put them anywhere, just make sure you check the package they are in in the window's active package list
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: in a module.  A module is like a window, but is visible to everything.
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: oh, so this also means no matter where the stats are, i can see them from other packages that need to use statistics?
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: like hp and stuff
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: yep
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: you might run into minor issues, but that's easily adjusted for
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: and when there's naming conflicts it goes to the current package's?
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: 5k. But it's not really tech related.
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: who wants to group me and kill barney so i can test my bprompt and make sure its capturing leader correctly
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: me!!!!
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: come to barney!!!!
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: how?
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: by walking?
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: 6s3es from recall, Vamp.
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: for gauges in cmud, has anyone found that sometimes vars don't display within the captions, and the only way to make it show up is to change the var?
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: that might be a 2.37 bug.  It's not happening for me in the 3.10a beta
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: i see
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: what's the numeric color of the statusbar in cmud? if i try to change the color of text in the statusbar, the default is black, and the "gray" displayed via m isn't the same gray as the statusbar :(
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: life is so hard :P
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: sorry. had to. good luck with that.
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ramier bursts into tears.
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: cmud has lots of annoying issues
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: it's a 6-digit hex number, you will have to travel long and far before you find enough geeks who have that memorized
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but can use eyedropper in a paint program to capture it ;-)
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: so now i need to open photoshop, and use a color dropper
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: arrrr
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly at him.
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: screw it, the statusbar can just display black on gray
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: who cares if i confuse my gold with my qps
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: 20mil qps isn't so bad
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: You may when rauc come up...
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: isn't there some sort of colour picker you can use and just eyeball it?
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: it's too much work
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Realising Resiliang Tech: Anyone in tech? got a script problem.
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: just ask, don't ask to ask
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Realising Resiliang Tech: Timer function "display_timer" not found or had a previous error.
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Realising Resiliang Tech: Spellup plugin on MUSH.
T1/r7/2009-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try reloading the spellups plugin, see if that kicks the display timer
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Realising Resiliang Tech: {affoff}508 How do I turn this off?
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: tags
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lieutenant Sagen Tech: Tag off
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Realising Resiliang Tech: Indeed. Thankee.
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: eep. Yes. that.
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: any Zmud users know how to create a few-millisecond pause between line entries?
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: ver 7.21/Win XP Pro
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ABELINC!!! it worked so far, i've been connected all night
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: guys, is sulfur in the air bad for me?
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: sulfur is a solid
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: anipopo yes, its chalky and dusty too
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: so yes, it's bad for you
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: and yellow in color
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ok, bad for me, thanks
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: w00t, there we go, have zMUD running as an XP app within my Windows 7 install :)
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Me Wantee Freggle Tech: did it give you lots of mishap to get it running?
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: nope - to get the integration working though, you need to copy the zmud shortcut to the all users start menu within xp mode
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: which is something that wasn't mentioned obviously anywhere
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: but other than that, it works great
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Me Wantee Freggle Tech: perhaps post it on some of the boards here? guess lots of people going to migrate
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: zmud probably would work natively actually, it worked OK in vista, but because of the custom GUI extensions it uses it looks better in XP Mode
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: sure, I can do that I guess
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rau Tech: Yeah it works fine in Windows 7, dunno how much difference there would be in XP mode
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: ok I wrote a note
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: congrats!
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: how many DVDs is win7  -- how many DVDs to backup Win7 before a change or update
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: sure
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nakami Tech: i seem to recall i could access the webcam using that software on my macbook pro at work.
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: How? :P I'd like to record a singing video
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: what is the default command symbol for mush client?  For instance, zmud would be # (eg #alias)
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: well in lua, you don't use symbols
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: so you can't create an alias from the command line?
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: #alias blah blah?
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: almost nothing is done on the command line in mush
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: there is an alias on the forums
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: oh thats uhm, yerk :p
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: an alias to add command line alias control
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: guess I have to spend some time in a tutorial
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: is anyone familiar with zmud/cmud?
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: farkyss is an expert on zmud scripting, ask him all your questions
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: thanks,I try;)
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: is there a way to loose the blank line which #GAG leaves behind?
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: #gag 2
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: the blank line is from the linefeed mudside from your blank config
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: so eighter #gag 2 or type blank
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: there is no such thing as 'blank' and gag 2 doesnt work
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: damn, dunno what they call it now, and #gag 2 does work
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: compact
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: sorry, blank was some other mud where it wasn't a social
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: I'm gaging the statmon,but when it's gagged it leaves a blank line between my prompt and the next line
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: and I have compact on
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: well,check the help on gag and see what the command is to gag linefeeds, it used to be #gag x
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: yeah, gag 2 should work
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: perhaps statmon has an extra linefeed for some reason
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: but it doesnt...and if You mean #gag -1,it doesnt work also...
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: well, if you're using zmud perhaps they changed the syntax
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: er, cmud
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: works fine for me in zmud 7.21
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Devil Remps shrugs helplessly.
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: but yeah,cmud 3.10a
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: well #gag 2 works fine for me in 3.10a
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: I restart it and try it again
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: and if I use #gag 2 with statmon, it gags my prompt also, so it's not an extra linefeed in statmon output
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: it shouldn't gag your prompt, prompt is before statmon?
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: yes,the prompt is now gone
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: perhaps #gag -2 then
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: heh, that worked for me
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: but no change to leave the prompt and just erase the blank line?
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: #gag -2 did that for me, but it looks weird
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: yes,the best is the #gag 2,so there's no change just to leave the blank line out and save the prompt?
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: yes, I told you, use a minus sign
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: that erases the prompt also
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: it erased the linefeed after statmon for me
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: and I don't see my own written
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Devil Remps shrugs helplessly.
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: doesnt work for me
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: with the minus sign it erases 1 row more after the prompt,so the prompt is gone and I don't see the last line(for example what I wrote on a channel)
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: before the prompt*
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: are you trying to gag the prompt or statmon? when I gag the statmon line with #gag -2 it does what you asked 
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: with me it doesnt...:(
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: oh,now I get it...the last row is now ALWAYS blank
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: thanks,that's practically near what I wanted;)
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: can I put a graphic scale to my status bar or is only ascii allowed?
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: how would I find the mac addy on a vista machine ?
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: ipconfig /all
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: thanks, I'll check on that
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: given a drum with no mass and a diameter of 3 meters, how do you go about solving for how much weight a motor can lift at constant speed using the drum?
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Don't think thats really enough information to go on. But not sure
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: yeah you're right, it was awkwardly phrased, there was more information given in another section which she referenced poorly
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: I can solve the problem now, thanks :)
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: gotcha.
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: goodjob.
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: its torque divided by radius, which were both given :)
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: hmn, i wish i could apply torque to 2 pi radians at the same time
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: random question: does the gaardian roominator use the iwuvaard database or something different?
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: their own database
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: iwuvaard doesn't have a room database
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: yes they do
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they have a link to a 7-year-old site that has a room file...they don't have a room database
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: you can find it when you connect remotely
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: according to a database call they have a rooms table. I haven't looked in it, but they have one
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they have room fields...
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: name, area and description fields
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: don't know if it's up to date, probably not
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 10The Grunting Boar (G)You are standing in the bar. The bar is set against the northern wall, old archaic writing, carvings and symbols cover its top. A fireplace is built into the western wall, and through the southeastern windows you can see the temple square. This place makes you feel like home. A small sign with big letters is fastened to the bar. There is an exit north and west. [Exits: north west] (Golden Aura) A janitor is walking around, cleaning up. (Golden Aura) A singing, happy drunk wanders around, singing about Moria. (Golden Aura) A bartender watches you calmly, while he skillfully mixes a drink. the drunk rises and begins to wobble towards you...12
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: that wall of text made me htink i had been vorpalled
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Nice spam abe, now i have to scroll back.
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, vorpal doesn't produce much text
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: whaddya reading on a 640x480 screen?
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Im on my netbook
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, I could never deal with a netbook...I love my real estate
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Eh, time and place. Though most things I think i'd use a netbook for a nice cell phone would fit the bill.
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: netbooks are good for travel
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: I only use my netbook when im on the move. Typically i use my flatscreen tv for a screen on my laptop
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: IMO full-sized laptops are good for travel
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Nah, netbooks take a beating better.
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: full-sized, like 17 inch?
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Screen break less.
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm comfortable hauling a 15.4" in a backpack case all day long
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: on the plus side, netbook is cheaper to replace if stolen =p
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I generally carry a 15.4 and a netbook as personal device when I'm on the road
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I would not want to carry anything bigger around
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: imo netbooks are only good when they have a SSHD
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we have accidental breakage coverage, but haven't had a screen break yet...had some hinges that needed tightening though
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: I don't tend to move my laptop either, it sits on a dual cooler since the fans area starting to fail, and the keyboard needs replaced (task for tomorow)
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: area = are
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I'm laying in bed, covers on me, laptop sitting right on the covers
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: me too right now
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: With a cooler, of course.
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no cooler...it's sitting right on the covers
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i need a laptop
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: I used to, but like i said - fans are failing.
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: fairly certain my fan shouldn't be making a "whump whump" noise.
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I just dont care too much for the new lenovo my work gave me
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: so if gaadian uses a different database can you connect to that remotely as well?
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no gnidlohnad
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Whatever you do, don't get a compaq, falling to pieces after a year.
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: battery life sucks
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Nod, 2 cell battery. == hell
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: lol.. old lenovo maybe? Mine is still about 7 hours now.
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: an R400, brand new
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: What CPU?
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: most laptops, you can buy with a "standard" battery, or you can config it with a better battery
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your work probably went cheap on the battery
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's something I'll always splurge on
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chicomecoatl nods at you in agreement. 
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: it's a P8400/2.27Ghz dual core Intel
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: yeah, but since this is my work's laptop, I'm not spending money on it
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Pleiades.
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Eh, dunno the P8400.... I bought mine with the T8300.. its been good to me
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: maybe the combination of Vista and hard drive encryption takes up a lot of battery power
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: encryption would do it
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: encryption would do it
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: oops mis
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: in the mush client, I want to send two variables together, rather than one one line each, like, Send (variable1 variable2) but I can't seem to find the right syntaxt, can anyone help?
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: send @var1 @var2?
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: Send (variable1) Send (variable2)?
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: no, niether of those worked
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: Yaomiqui's still sent it on two lines
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Send("@var1 @var2") didn't work?
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: that's a different syntaxt, I'll try it too
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: no Chico, it's not even recognizing the variables that way, it just sends @var1 @var2
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: you have expand vars checked on the right?
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: sends verbatim, rather than getting variable values
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Tell me what you are trying to send, maybe i can understand what you need better.
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Oh, check the variable radial button
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chicomecoatl nods at Myrmidon Myrkul.
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: ahh, the expanded variables worked, and Chico's suggestion works now =)
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chicomecoatl bows deeply.
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: many thanks =)
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Glad i could help.
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: http://www.citizen.org/publications/release.cfm?ID=7065
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: mis
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: hey guys, if debug kernel block fs thingy is letting me not boot unless i specify a root block device thing, but my root block device thing isnt working, and my kernel has my fs support as * what am i missing?
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: dude, freebsd people don't ask for help, you shoudl be happy you even have man files
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Unless abe is here, your kinda screwed for now.
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: milkshake im not on freebsd, i couldnt get it to work friendily
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: im trying a linux kernel, the openbsd kernel practically builds itself other than some bootime config
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: but my kernel is not bootable app-arently
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: openbsd then
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i tried that, but the software support is less than cool
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: it could be how you're setting up your bootstrapper
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: nope, its set up fine :P
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: wrong cpu support?
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: nope.
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I just saw the words friendily and freebsd in the same sentence for the first time in my life
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: I mean if you're going to roll your own kernal instead of taking the default kernels which sensably built everything as modules, then you should be prepared for problems and have a gooood idea hwat youre doing imo :p
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: are you using freebsd, milk?
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: milkshake i already said im trying linux, it doesnt have a default kernel :P
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: no, I was maligning FBSD earlier :p
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: the vanilla kernel still wants configuration :P
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: download a distro, is what I meant
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: did... it still requires a KERNEL
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: when I installed ubuntu last it rolled the kernel for me and setup the bootstrapper or me
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: it was awesome
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: did you just try to use ubuntu and awesome in the same sentence?
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude succeeded.
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: me not having to do SQUAT to setup a fully functioning linux distro is awesome
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: do you need freebsd, or do you just want to use a *nix based system>
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: never happened before
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: pleiades i dont want freebsd, nor am i on freebsd,  i have openbsd and my ports's software support is not the best, but im trying linux, and my request for help was w/ the kernel
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: well if you can't even get a kernel panic statement, but the kernel compiled, and the bootstrapper found it, I'm going to hazard that you made config problems in the cpu section
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: milkshake, ok, like where in that section?
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: I'd reset all the configurations and not change that section, leave it at shittiest cpu setting and see if you can boot that
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ?
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: anywhere, there are a ton of ways to screw up the CPU section and create a kernel that won't boot
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: milkshake how so?
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: just saying, if you don't know what options to select in that section, leave it at default
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i did, and its not working... any other ideas?
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: I'd download a vanilla kernel, I can't tell you the number of times I've toggled the *wrong* option building a kernel in ubuntu.
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: fatesdagger, milkshake is on ubuntu, i have a vanilla kernel
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: if you're that into controlling your system, install debian
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: x64 or 32bit?
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: otherwise I'd just get a bootable CD of a popular distro , install and pray
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: 32 bit
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: I've had probs with ubuntu standard CD, download alternate and install from it.
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: fatesdagger i dont have a cd burner, or a desire to use ubuntu
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: all i wanna do is get my kernel bootable
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: fedora, debian, slackware, hell is mandrake still kicking?
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: okay if you are looking for a vanilla kernel download one from say kernel.org.
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: there are a ton of options that will give you a good system on a straight install, use it :p
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: I did so.
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: mandrake's a new name now
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: oh what is it called now?
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: didn't novell aquire them?
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: mandriva i guess
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: the poorly translated documentation for mandrake always made me laugh
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: suse's a good / corporate linux
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: so my request for help gets drowned out by what's your favorite *x distro :-/ okay whatever... thanks
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: you'll have tons and tons of heartache and spend weeks learning your way around kernel config issues if you're trying to build a good desktop and don't know wtf you're doing, VD
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: its really complicated, you didn't come at us with specifics, I took a pretty good guess at it
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: what more you want?
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: Whats everyones favroite programming language? Just curiour =]
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: C++
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: lisp :)
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: C++ with some Perl or Java.
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: haskell
T1/r7/2009-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: assembly
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlie Tech: hey
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlie Tech: i accidentally pressed enter while entering my password and was able to sign on with the last three characters missing from it :O
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlie Tech: ... is that normal?
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: auto complete on your client?
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: seems unusual Karlie, I could not duplicate it with my account
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlie Tech: my client doesn't have auto complete
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: My best guess would be that the mud truncates passwords so the last few letters don't really mean anything if your password is longish.
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: *shrug*
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlie Tech: its 16 characters long heh
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: Yeah, it probably has a maximum limit and yours was over it...so it never checked those extra letters to begin with.
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlie Tech: oh.. doh
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlie Tech: ahh.. truncated at eight characters. my bad.. sowwy
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morningmist Tech: I have a problem. I wanted to try out the special aardwolf client. To my chargrin, I found out that it was not working for me (too many windows) and so I went back to my "vanilla" Mushclient.
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morningmist Tech: problem is, now I get tons of spam, especially a whole stats printout after every command
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morningmist Tech: how do I get rid of that? 
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goatskill Tech: type "tags off"
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morningmist Tech: thanks, that did it for me. Wonderful! :-)
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tianshi Tech: How do I turn off the info that comes from the mud when I'm not using the aardclient?
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: tags off, I believe.
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: is there an easy way to export cmud scripts for zmud? i couldn't figure out a way, i exported to xml and manually edited it to #alias, #trigger etc., kinda annoying
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: why go from cmud to zmud
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Me Wantee Freggle Tech: cause win7 enables it? :)
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: cause i wrote a script in cmud (which i use) and my friend who uses zmud wants it
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: its really simple, doesn't use any new cmud features, should work in zmud with no changes...just need a export to .txt or .zsc which i'm not finding...
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: stupid question, I know
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: but - let's say you have an engine designed for petrol with an octane number of 91/95, and you put 98 into it. What's the consequence? :)
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: you have to change the timing, not sure if it's forward or back. higher octane burns slower
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beltegeuse Tech: the same as if you put nitroxide on your engine designed for petrol of 98 octane
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: but generally, nothing
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: just don't do it over a protracted period of time
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rau Tech: Usually its using an octane that is too low that will cause problems
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: well, I accidentally filled my tank with 98 when the normal use is 95 :P I know putting in a LOWER octane number can cause rattling and eventual engine damage,  but does it make a difference if you put in a higher one? I know there's no gain in power/performance/consumption, but the higher compression-till-combustion - does that carry any problem?
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: you won't notice a difference
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: and if you do just fill with the lowest grade when it gets to half-tank to even out the octane
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: but likely no problem
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you read the manuals, they'll list that you want "minimum" octane rating...putting in ultra premium has no downside other than wallet
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't need to change timing or anything else...
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're not jumping to jet fuel here
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: yeah, I had about 1/4 tank of 95, filled with 98... will take a while till I have to fill again. The car seems to run fine and as usual, but I was somewhat conserned :P
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beltegeuse Tech: hehehe, once i filled my tank with diesel when it was an engine for 98, i put about 5 litres of diesel and i realiced the mistake so i filled the tank with 98 (about 40 litres more) and nothing happened
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: yeah, you don't need to change timing, didn't have all the info at first. assumed you were a gearhead pondering :)
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: umm, that's why they have different sized nozzles for diesel & unleaded (and leaded used to have a fat nozzle so it couldn't be put into unleaded engines)
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: heh, putting diesel in might be nasty for the engine Belt :P
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: Abe - depends on where. In Europe they don't
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: the size is the same, just that on diesel cars you have a big sticker on the fuel-tank door that says DIESEL
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: on petrol cars here you get a sticker that says "unleaded 91/95" for example
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nozzles for petrol are slightly bigger than diesel, making misfueling difficult
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Feral Farkyss.
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you may just have not noticed, TG
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: the downside to one being bigger than the other is that you still have a 50% chance of one going into the other
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but of course, the bigger nozzle is only a detriment in one direction
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at . o O (  ) Habasi.
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: Abe - I just go off the memories - I had a diesel car before, now I have a petrol one, and two weeks ago I was driving a diesel MB Sprinter, with friends driving my petrol car behind me for 800 km - so we refuelled quite a few times, both cars... everything looked pretty identical between the diesel and petrol nozzles
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: those of us old enough to remember leaded being phased out knew to pay attention to the nozzle size ;-)
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod TG, it's not like 2" vs 4"...it's not something you'd normally notice on eyeball
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: wow abe, how old are you ?
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: on an incline system, ME is the sum of Potential Energy and Kinetic Energy, yes?
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: lead wasn't phased out that long ago
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: I'm pushing 30 and I don't remember it
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: early 90s
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: oh yeah nvm, they still used that for a while around the world. silly american
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the US, the vehicles were pretty much switched early-mid 80s, but the pumps were later
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: was later here
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: hence we remembered
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't remember when the full cutoff was when they weren't allowed to sell it anymore
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: yeah, I need to get off this continent moar
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and yeah, I pushed 30 a while back ;-)
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rau Tech: It was completely banned in the US in 1996
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, thanks rau :-)
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wiki to the rescue?
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rau Tech: at that point sales were less than 1%
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nothing wrong with a bit of lead - the romans added lead to their wine to make it keep longer
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Feral Farkyss ducks defensively.
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: leaded petrol is still available in parts of Europe - tho mostly for mowing machines and the like
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, leaded gas isn't sold, but 2 strokes are
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i know that hear, everything new was force to run on unleaded, car or machinery, after 1992
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rau Tech: I remember seeing 'regular vs. unleaded' when I was a kid but don't remember a definitive stopping time
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I was putting leaded in my '81 yamaha special II 400 back in '88 through probably 92
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rau Tech: nods, I didn't start driving till 92 :)
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thrilhouse Tech: how do i turn off chat channels in the main window of mushclient again?
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatale Elliden Tech: how do i update the time in my zmud
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: thrilhouse, chats echo off...this is also explained on the plugins description webpage on aard's website, and if you go to file -> plugins, click the chat plugin and click get info :-)
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: abelinc, it still doesnt automatically connect, how do i make the tfrc require the world.tf ?
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: elliden, doesn't zmud take the time from the OS?
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vampire, /loadworld should be near the bottom of your .tfrc
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ok.
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: abelinc, how do i get moron to stay off in tf, i need my scrolling
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: more-on*
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Edit your .tfrc
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ok
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have /more off in .tfrc
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err you want /more on
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: no... it makes it hard to do anything
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I find it more convenient to leave it off, then hit pgup pgdown when I want to scroll
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, I misread your comment on needing your scrolling
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: thought you wanted it to handle the paging, instead of continuously scrolling...yeah, I don't have it break except when I know something big is coming
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: hi i'm having a go at using the iwuv database remotely, anyone know the difference between the mobdeaths and mobdeaths_new tables?
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jyscal Tech: Does anyone know if i can use vid Mushclient on linux?
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: I've heard wine works well with it
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jyscal Tech: Oh cool! could you tell me if i first have un install Wine?
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zannugawa Tech: How do you get rid of "60/30,35/25,50/25,50/25,45/25,50/25,100,100,100,190,278,You are Standing.,9999," showing up under your prompt? I tried the aard client, disconnected and came back on with my old one, and I see a lot of stuff like this.
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tags off
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alexxa Tech: try tags off
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zannugawa Tech: Thanks a lot
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jyscal Tech: Is there a version for linux because im having a few problems installing wine
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: there's no linux version of mush, but there's other good clients you can use
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, you should probably work on why you're having problems installing wine...there is no native linux compilation of MUSH
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your linux distro likely has a software package management system, and should even have "binary" wine installers that don't need to be compiled
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jyscal Tech: Thank for the help. Ill go un the aard site and see what i can install
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jyscal Tech: Im using Ubuntu version 9.04  so will just have to make sure its compatible.
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jyscal Tech: could anyone help with configuring the synaptic  package manager in ubuntu
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: anyone use PSUB with custom mxp elements in cmud?, SUB works fine but when I PSUB in tags they actually show up on the line and ultimately are ignored
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: does zuggsoft accept paypal or only credit cards
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: probably both
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: dunno, i'm sure his website will tell you
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: he accepts paypal iirc
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: (mush client) when using Note(IsAlias()), I get a syntax return, telling me if alias exists or not, is there then a way to perform an action based on this result?  For example, instead of 30010, I'd like it to say "Alias does not exist"
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: try Note( IsAlias() or "" )
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: erm... Note( IsAlias() or "Alias does not exist" )
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: oh ok, can try that
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: ok I tried this -- Note (IsAlias("%2 (%3)") or Note "Alias does not exist") and Note (IsAlias("%2 (%3)") or "Alias does not exist") but neither seemed to work
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: IsAlias is not an inbuilt function.  What does that do?
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: it returns 0 if true and 30010 if false
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: and I want to figure out how to make use of what it returns
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: hrm... it wasn't working for me.  I just used GetAlias instead.
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: so instead of getting a 0 or 30010, I see "alias exists" or "alias doesn't exist"
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: oh, now it's working.
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: if IsAlias( "goto" ) == 0 then Note( "alias exists" ) else Note( "alias does not exist" ) end
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: ok, I'll try to work with that =)  thanks
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: well, technically there should also be a condition for 30008, which is an invalid alias name.
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: don't think I'll need it in this script, there should never arise that situation the way I'm using it
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: well, the way I had it would have invalid names show up as not existing.  Which is technically true by default.
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: ok, that will be fine to, just trying to implement your code now =)
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Intelectual Property theft!!!
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: although since I cannot spell "Intellectual" correctly, that apparently defaults to it being usable.
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: LOL
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: thanks Balaam, I've got it working more or less =)
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fachtna Tech: my computer seems to still think i'm logging in from Italy.  But I moved back to NY... Can't log into NHL.com because it says i'm logging in from a restricted region... any ideas?
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Check your DNS server addreses
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: addresses*
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fachtna Tech: is that under internet options?
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Yeah, and then right-click your ethernet connection and go to TCP/IP and "Properties"
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: any ideas why IsAlias is always returning "does not exist", even when the alias does exist?  I'm using Note (IsAlias( "cb" )) to check an obvious alias I have, but it gives me 30010 (doesn't exist)
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: I'm starting to think that IsAlias doesn't actually work, it always returns 30010
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: does anyone know if IsAlias (for mush) differentiates between local and global aliases?
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: no mush gurus on?
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HomerSimpson Tech: no, just a mush noob :P
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: IsAlias is consistenly telling me that aliases do not exist, when in reality they do, so I was wondering if it was a global/local thing like with variables.  Can anyone offer insight, or am I the only person on who's tried using this function?
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guessingo Tech: hey guys.what kind of hardware runs aardwolf
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Icecool Tech: Not too sure, the help file that use to hold server spec info isn't around anymore
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hardware is reasonably current server machine colocated at a datacenter in texas...it used to run on a server in Lasher's house (that's when help hardware existed, because it was controlled hardware)...at that time, there was a single T1 to his house for the bandwidth
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guessingo Tech: what country is it housed in?
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it moved in july of 2008
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: US
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guessingo Tech: so are most of the coders professional coders who do this on the side?
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Heh. Aardwolf has one coder
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guessingo Tech: so lasher is the only coder? i thought alot of peopel contribute to muds?
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Aardwolf is not just any MUD. :)
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Theres more to contribute then just code as well
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guessingo Tech: ok so its just 1 guy who does the whole thing?
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Icecool Tech: Well, Aardwolf has done the coding. The areas have been contributed by players and imms
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: other people contribute, but contribution is not necessarily coding
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guessingo Tech: what else do they do?
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: poker was done by another imm.
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: maintain the game, deal with enforcing the rules, running trivia/games..
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, some of the damage functions were contributed by another IMM as well
T1/r7/2009-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andik Tech: IsAlias is consistenly telling me that aliases do not exist, when in reality they do, so I was wondering if it was a global/local thing like with variables.  Can anyone offer insight on this?
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: For computer case screws... I know theirs the fine metric, and course standard threads..... But is there any distinction between the hex heads, and pan heads? Or are they all used for the same purpose
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: I have this alias as well as its counterpart "spellup pause" --> #ALIAS {spellup resume}={#if {"$spellupper" == "resumed"}{#showme {Spellups are already active.}};#else {#variable {spellupper} {resumed};#showme {Spellups resumed.}}}. It seems to work fine, but its outputting some unknown command to the mud, and it is showing the #show commands. Can any of you see where it is trying to output something?
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: For tintin, if that helps.
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: No idea, but try #debug aliases, see if that gives any insight?
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Nothing invalid shows.
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Hmm
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: When i debugged i noticed this, --> #DEBUG ALIAS {spellup resume} {resume}, apparently when i try to "spellup resume" its doing spellup resume, then outputting resume again...
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Any ideas?
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: hmm, not sure how that helped, but i got it fixed by adding ; at the end of the iff and adding a #nop. Oh well.
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oryn Tech: is there an input command seperator in tf?
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Indeed
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Prefix your line with "/eval " and then use %;
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oryn Tech: could you give me a quick example?
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oryn Tech: oh, wait - that might not be what I'm looking for
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oryn Tech: like in MUSHclient you can use a semicolon to seperate commands on the input line - is there such a thing for tf?
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: That's what you're looking for.
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: You can set it to automatically evaluate your input lines, but I don't recommend it
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: It doesn't take that long to just type /eval before the line
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oryn Tech: so how would, say "runto recall;runto cleric" look?
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: "/eval runto recall%;runto cleric"
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oryn Tech: ah, ok - cool
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oryn Tech: thanks much! :)
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon nods.
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Congratulations on using the best client around, btw :)
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: what is the defualt font for zmud?
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: Courier, 12 point
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: TY much. too much experimenting :)
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: Really, any fixed-width font will do just fine.
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: yeah it seems that curiour is too bocky, anything else?
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: Andale Mono? Deja Vu Mono? Fixedsys? Lucida Console?
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: thanks :) I'll give those a try. Too many choices
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: Anything that says fixed or Monospace/Mono will likely work fine and not screw up your maps.
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: good to know. that is what i was looking for
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: yeah, I used to do a lot of web design. Fixed-width fonts are useful for making code indents visible. ;)
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: and for ASCII art.
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: i finally found an easy gui client for linux for my netbook, so i was trying to find a good font
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: which Linux and which client?
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: just upgraded to ubuntu 9.10 and it is kildclient
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: KildClient is a good client
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: cool. Wait, 9.10 is out? I thought release date was Thursday?
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: nope RC is out already
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: i know, but i couldn't get use to it. Kildclient is pretty good and what i was looking for
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: RC, not the actual release.
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Especially considering it accepts real Perl as its scripting language :)
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: i got impatient :)
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: heh, okay.
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: it runs flash on my netbook better than 9.04. no stuttering on hulu 
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: Nice. I just need to find a better graphics card to put in that box. The old Nvidia in it will only run at 800x600 max. :p
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: how do you replace the vid card on a netbook?
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: solder?
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: I still need to figure out a way to get Zmud to export my stuff to a file that Kildclient can read. It's already on the Ubuntu 9.04 box. It's a desktop, not a netbook.
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: gotcha
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: just use a screwdriver. ;)
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: if you figure it out the zmud export, that would rock. 
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: haha yeah, i thought you had a netbook too... oops :)
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: but I should just shut it down for the move and upgrade it to 9.10 when I get to TN on Friday.
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: I hope I can figure out the Zmud export. :)
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: it would be nice to get back all my configurations 
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Anyone wanting to play Age of Kings, send tells fast :D
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: would anyone know why #trigger {^You still have to kill ~* (*) ~((*)~)*$} {#CAP campaign;#add mobsleft 1;moblist = %addItem( %lower( %1), oblist)} creates an endless loop?
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: in cmud at least -.-
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: anyone know how to set zmud to autoload a map on startup?
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: ok its the #cap causing an endless loop
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: How is it going, ladies and gents
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: can someone help me with my cmud?
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: just ask :P
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: I updated my cmud and I cannot run anymore on the map as I could 
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: there is bound to be bugs you updated to a beta
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: I updated from a beta to a regular
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Devil Remps shrugs helplessly.
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: has anyone found a way of getting zmud to import script files without completing borking?
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Livonya Tech: will need some more details to answer that...
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: got an idea for how to get Zmud to export something usable in another client like Kildclient?
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: Kildclient uses Perl, and I really don't know perl. :p
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: put it this way, if i copy/paste from the class text out into notepad, format it a bit so i can see what's there, reimport it, it catastrophically goes arse over tit, deleting huge swathes of it at random
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: possibly due to the formatting?
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: what formatting doesn't it like?
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: if you're putting newlines in the wrong spot it can do that. Learned that the hard way. :p
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: well doing any form of meaningful coding without new lines is impossible
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Livonya Tech: which zmud do you use?
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: 7.21
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Livonya Tech: same here and I just use the internal editor...
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i can't
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if i make a change on the internal editor and click save, it doesn't
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Livonya Tech: and you didn't write-protect the files you're trying to edit?
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: no, if they were, i'd not be able to import
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: what platform, Farkyss?
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: xp
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: I seem to have that issue if I have it markes as Zmud script rather than as text when I paste.
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it's just insanely unpredictable and unreliable
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i give up, can't work like this
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it seems the only way i can get anything to import reliably is to remove all whitespace before i do it
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ask the question, don't ask to ask
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Melthalas Tech: hi, is there anyone who can help me set up a targetting variable with CMud?
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do you have a particular question of part you're stumped on, or is this more of the order of "I'm going to be clinging by your side for the next 2 days" type of question?
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thrilhouse Tech: i don't think he had turned on the channel for your first statement dagnir :)
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's why people will almost never respond to a question of "is anyone really good at ...."
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because they're basically committing themselves to being at your beck and call for a while
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: instead, we'll lurk on the channel and answer a specific question if we know the answer
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Melthalas Tech: well, I'm hoping this is the only question I'll be asking, just that I remember a long time ago setting up a variable that allowed me to set a target, and now, being useless at techinical things, i
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Melthalas Tech: I've forgotten how I did it!
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Melthalas Tech: no worries if no-one can help, I'll just keep on fast typing!!
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: abelinc, that auto idle prevention thing didnt work
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "/ps"...do you have a line like "4  0:03:33 r             0:10:00     i /send %;"? where the first number (4) and the second number (0:03:33) can be different, but the rest should be identical?
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: nope
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: none of them
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i think maybe that hook.tf is not hooking like it ought to hook
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you type "list -h", does it have a line "% 779: /def -p0 -mglob -h'CONNECT {aard}' = /load aard.tf" where the 779 is different?
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: no , says there is no shopkeeper here
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oops, sorry.../list -h
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: nothing at all from list-h
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ok, the hook.tf file wasn't loaded...
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Ok, i have been trying to vitually build a script for tintin close to that of the one by Nick Gammon for MUSHclient. So far, i have it act that when i spell wears off, and I am not in combat (used statmon postion) and the spelluper is NOT paused, it will respell. How would i go about making it work, to respell after combat as well, i tried delaying a respell off of {You receive %d experience points.} but it won't work. It worked before i added the delay, but when in combat with multiple mobs it caused issues. Any ideas?
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: chico, check out my tf one, it'll give you ideas
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're already updating variables from statmon, so can still use statmon position to wait for it being standing (position 5)
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: instead of letting it trigger off of xp or mob death trigger it off of statmon which puts out 9999 in place of enemy health if not fighting
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when they wear off, pop them into a stack/queue...when you're standing, and have enough mana, cast
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Ahh, i was just doing #if {"You are Standing." == "You are Standing} {respell} {#nop}
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Try this without the variables filling in --> #if {"$position" == "You are Standing} {respell} {#nop}
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no need to use enemy health...statmon has a place for a 1-digit reference to your position
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 0 = dead, 1 = sleeping, 2 = resting, 3 = sitting, 4 = fighting, 5 = standing
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then there are 12 sfail responses
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I have whether to stick the spell back onto the queue on fail dependent on what spellfail response was
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so not enough mana gets stuck back onto the queue, but at the back of the line (so it'll cast the stuff that'll take less mana a while)
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but in a nospell room stays as first in line
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't know the spell or already affected...don't stick it back at all
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: I don't care that much to remain spelled in combat at this point, when they all still die 1 or 2 hits, my basic purpose it to get then up to 100% faster.
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: This way is less time consuming than cancelling and respelling constantly.
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unless you're doing it while not at keyboard ;-)
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: I thought that you can't bot that? I know you can have a respeller but doing like #ticker {spellupper} {#10 {#3 c cance;#3 mana;#4 spellup}} 60 was illegal, is it not?
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when it was changed to be allowed to have a respeller, it also became legal to bot getting better
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Sweet, something to do when i go to bed i guess.
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i bot spellup spells. asked imms about it and it's fine as long as you don't spam anyone
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Hmm .... but it would be illegal to bot going to get pots to continue while not there?
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: help botting...The view on practicing skills/spells has changed and does not constitute botting to simply practice these to 100%.  However, the following rules must also be followed regarding this practice:...so read the rules/caveats
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sleep
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: 1) would do it in silent spell, 2) in clan hall of a mostly inactive clan a.k.a. my clan.
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do it in your private rest room, sleep a tick, cancel, cast stuff
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: heh, sleep like 4 ticks to get back to 100 or ill run out before they are all cast.
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hawkings Tech: what do most people use these days? zmud? or the aardwolf mud client?
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: I like mush a lot.. and I came from zmud/cmud/jmc
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hawkings Tech: did u have alot of settings to port over from zmud to mush?
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you already have zmud set up how you want, stick with it...if you're coming in dry, MUSHclient from aard's installer, then upgraded from MUSHclient.com
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're someone with real geek cred, tinyfugue or tintin++ ;-)
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: tintin++ ftw
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: outside those 4 clients, you really won't find public scripts pre-done for aard
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hawkings Tech: i had a 'complete' zmud setup about 4 years ago, but lost some of my settings and basically think about redoing it from scratch
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hawkings Tech: so, i am unsure if i should jump ship now to mush or stick to zmud
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: doesn't hurt to download MUSH and see how you like it
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: both clients have enough users that you'll usually be able to find help
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Nod, and MUSH has a pretty big forum that most of your questions can get answered.
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hawkings Tech: ok, its variable easy to write triggers/scripts/vars/macros in mush?
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: No.
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: YOu can't do #trigger {blah} you actually have to go in and use buttons to do it, its more user friendly though
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hawkings Tech: erm, that made no sense. -variable
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hawkings Tech: ahh ok
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can use a decent text editor to write the #trigger {blah} and translate that to something to paste into MUSH ;-)
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: hmm whats so good about the new clients for mudding? a lot better than using telnet?
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: What i mean to say is variable, triggers, alias etc cannot be done command line, but it will hold your hand through it. Its /easier/ but not /faster/ or more efficient.
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hawkings nods at Xzx.
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: xzx, aliases triggers, and roomwalks based on aliases.
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hawkings Tech: i prefer more efficient :)
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: yeah i know i usd to use zmud lol guess people like setting up bots :P
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: built-in mapper so you don't have to waste space with variables, aliases, and so on for your speedwalks, databases to keep track of important information, etc
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: ah i remember i set up alliases back then to every single mob lol
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: pretty easy to do gqs with that
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: beyond bots, simply being able to see what someone said to you while in the middle of combat without the combat spam scrolling channels off the screen is a nice advantage to a client ;-)
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Then (c)zmud or tintin (tf also) would work best. They are more efficient, but the learning curve is a bit steeper for the latter 2. Cmud and Zmud are based off of what is now called tintin, so you can get a grasp fairly easy, if you are used to c(z)mud
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hawkings Tech: how different is zmud to cmud?
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: hmm i rahter just use telnet dont have to run so many things on my comp
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: not that different, cmud has a lot more advanced features
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: I honestly can't say, i could never get zmud to run on my vista machine.
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: plus im not really playing the mud LOL
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: and is (now) more stable than zmud ever was
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: not very.  There's less of a difference there than there is between ANSI C and C++
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hawkings Tech: yea, i have used tf in the past, awesome client on linux
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tf & tintin are barely more to run on the computer than just telnet
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hawkings Tech: lol, ok - i never had stablity issues with zmud
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: hmm for some reason i like telnet :)
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my wife and I are connected to Aard with a full set of scripts running on a computer with 64 MEGS of RAM
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not gigs...megs
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: I used it really aggressively, all the features, which might explain why I was good at getting it to crash
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: nod, tf and tt are termianl clients with aliases, so an advanced telnet.
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: terminal*
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: The only time i crash my tt is when i stupidy use an alias within itself and make an infinite loop.
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, tf has a safeguard for that
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: max recursion variable
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: I made a safeguard.
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Basically.
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: lol a good metaphor is like i like assembly language while everyone else use C ++ 
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hawkings Tech: what version of tf are you using abelinc?
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: #if {"$output[1] - $output [5]" == "$same"} {#nop} {%1}}
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Parses all my aliases before it outputs it, to prevent infinite loops, but if for some reason i need it to, i can bypass it.
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I use tf5b8
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hawkings Tech: beta stable?
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: in zmud code, what would you expect this code to do:
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: #if (debug) {#ECHO SQL: ql}{}
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: oops, one sec
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: #if (debug) {#ECHO SQL: ~ql}{}
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: dammit parsing
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: #if (debug) {#ECHO SQL: ~@sql}{}
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: bah, you get the idea
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: without the tilde
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: no ideas?
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malem Tech: anyone on here know much about scripts or plug ins on mush?
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just go ahead & ask the question :-)
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malem Tech: Abelinc, can you be vis for a second or send me a tell?
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just ask your question here...then anyone with the knowledge can help, and others can see the answer
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malem Tech: so how do i even start the script or plugin...do i have to enter the variables first?
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it depends on what you're planning to do...I'd first suggest that you check for pre-existing plugins made by others that do what you need :-)
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malem Tech: if i have the plug in info, isnt there a way i can upload or install without having to type it?
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for a pre-done plugin file, you go to file -> plugins, click add and find the file
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malem Tech: can i do that with a new script that was just made?
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malem Tech: just type in the name of the plug in?
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malem Tech: and its not 1 of them on the list
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd click add, then find where the file is saved
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malem Tech: and if i do that it will work?
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'll be loaded/enabled...whether it works would depend on whether it's written well ;-)
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malem Tech: ok thanks Abelinc, I will have to download a new version of mush it says...4.4
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malem Tech: and also abelinc, if i have triggers that do the same thing that the script does...should i disable the trigs?
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malem Tech: ok thanks again abelinc
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-)
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/25/walmart-to-rival-best-buys-geek-squad-with-own-in-home-install/ The end is nigh
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alok Tech: how does one divide in zmud?
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: iirc there's a #MATH
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alok Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaymez Tech: can someone tell me what this means Trigger function "process_prompt" not found or had a previous error
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I believe it means that the trigger could not be found or had an error at some point.
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try reloading the stats_detector plugin
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaymez Tech: ok thanks for the help.
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaymez Tech: that was it just had to reload game thanks again
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oryn Tech: gah! overwrote my .tfrc
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oryn Tech: <-- dumbass
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: okay, Zmud 7.21/WinXP question: is there a way to put a delay of, say, a half-second between lines in a non-spellup script?
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: #pause?
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: alarm +0.5 {} 
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}X's Noro Tech: #WAIT 5000 ?
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: I'll try those, thanks! :)
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: do i need to escape ':' in mushclient regexp
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Not usually.
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Rennek: mebbe she has herpes
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: .... Okay, Well, that was a mistell.. so....... you never saw me.
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: You definitely need to escape herpes!
T1/r7/2009-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sikai is agreeing with that Blessed Balaam person again...
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Can someone clarify the difference, if there is one, between Python and Python CGI?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: CGI is common gateway interface. Basically a python-based webserver. More or less.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: so Python CGI Is software written in the language Python
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ah.... so just something to take like say, information posted from a form, and do something with it afterwards?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: exactly
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Gotcha... Unlikely example, something like Take input, apply filters/expressions, store in Database and/or email? Though I'm sure theres better ways to do that
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Python CGI is just Python with CGI bindings.  That allows it to communicate back and forth with web browsers like Apache or lighttpd.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: what he said. Except I think he meant server and not browser
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Yeah, I've been up for too long.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: why are zmud and cmud's database modules so useless
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: They're not
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And thanks for the info on Python CGI. Was just considering its usefulness.. had been playing around with it a bit, didn't know if it was something useful for a web hosting service
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: the documentation spends pages talking about views, and doesn't tell you how to perform simple queries
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ah, dunno
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Looking at the forum posts, it's just a normal query for Access.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ramier, that's because it's an interface...knowing how to use the database is separate from knowing how to use the interface
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: here's some neat stuff you can do with zmud's db connections though...http://www.conradshome.com/iwuvzmud/
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: with a name like iwuvzmud... the url shows promise
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's one of ozzy's pages...he has done some pretty amazing things with zmud
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Always thought a Iwuvaard connection would be nice, failing that a seperate database that was searchable.. but thats about as far as i ever thought, HEY ITD BE NEAT
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, well here's a drop-in way to do it
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod... Looks very nice, fairly simple. Since its just an alias with an argument, could probably do whatever you wanted with it
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oryn Tech: can someone paste me the DISARMS line? testing a trigger
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Wonder how hard it would be to take that, and use it to show items on auc that have been enchanted, what the bonus stats are
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OpponentName DISARMS you and sends your NameOfWeapon flying!
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oryn Tech: thanks again, abelinc :)
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: zomg! Abelinc is abusing triggers!  REALLY REALLY poorly made triggers.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: get NameOfWeapon ; wi NameOfWeapon
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: . o O (  ) Habasi slaps herself on the head and yells, "DOH!"
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and if you have aardweapons, opponentname DISARMS you and you struggle not to drop your weapon!
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You fall to the floor laughing at . o O (  ) Habasi's remark.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oryn Tech: aard stuff just goes in your inv, right?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: The script itself would be pretty simple except for aliasing the external databases...though that just might be because I haven't done too much of that.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: yeah, Oryn
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Blessed Balaam nods at Oryn.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod, Peloso.. http://www.conradshome.com/iwuvzmud/ Already does the DB lookups
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: I guess I should have anchored those
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: . o O (  ) Habasi laughs diabolically...Muhahahaha!
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cain killd Abelinc wonders why Habasi wrote their rearm trig to send the command to the tech channel
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: It's because of your disarming personality, Abe
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: lol abelinc
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: hmm u guys dont use ^ for zmud to stop people from triggeinr your triggers?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: xzx, it was a joke
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: oh I put a %1 at the front, didn't everybody ?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: oh :P
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: . o O (  ) Habasi looks around and whistles innocently.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cain killd Abelinc is tech someone doesn't anchor from here
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: . o O (  ) Habasi goes, 'You just got PWNED!'
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 0% hit rate on a badly-written hunt trig :-)
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ooh, forgot the trailing period
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: hmmm my triggers were pretty good in zmud too bad i use telnet now :)
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: I wonder.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: didn't the hunt message change?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: that's half the joke
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes redryn, but the pattern is still valid for one of its versions
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: The trail of Redryn is confusing, but you're reasonably sure he headed tech i fail.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: i fail.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A bright, shiny gold halo appears over Dispel Majic's head.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: lol just had to revise my triggers because of abelinc, thanks :P
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Learn From Einstein Tech: #send {i fail}
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: lol should disable non essntial triggers unless u need to use it so no one can trigger your triggers
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: See, that won't work for a lot of people because they'd use a single word match instead of a wildcard match.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: or just write triggers that are properly set up to not get abused
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: or write them in a way that won't let them be abused =p
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: hmm my zmud triggers used a wildcard match
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: well, i'm sure if you wrote a note you'd still get a lot of people :p
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: Using a wildcard match is just lazy and asking to be abused. Heh.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: oh i remember people used to abuse peoples hunt trigers to give them money
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: Yeah, in a note, sure.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: the problem is that i disable all my triggers when i dont use it
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: plus i dont use zmud anymore
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: That could get around the anchoring business. Heh.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: It's not just zmud though.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I used to have showdesc and whois as an alias that turned off trigs, then sent the command, then turned them back on in 5 secs
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: theres no need to use zmud and st a bunch of aliases triggers etc sinec i dont compete anymore in global quests :P
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I still have not and note set up to do that
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Learn From Einstein Tech: for notes, u should use telopt triggers
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: hmmm my quest bot was perfect actually but yeah i used that sometimes when i got lazy but i was at the comp
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: hehe never botted when im not at the comp :)
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It's still botting.,
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my alias was done years before telopts, and there's no benefit to changing now unless something else changes
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: its not botting when you are at the comp looking
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yes it is, Xzx.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: you'd actually be worse off abe
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: oh they changed rules again?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: I am a bot. But I pass turing tests, so its cool
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: we got a confession!  Quick, nuke Xzx!
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes it is, xzx...it's just easier to not get caught that way
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: rofl
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No, Xzx. Those have been the rules.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: thats over 11 yrs ago
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, we've had plenty of confessions
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: it doesnt apply to me
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: it has always been the rule that it's illegal even if you're watching it.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: most of those werules does not exist then
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: hehe majic your making up rules lol they dont have that then
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: wrong, sometimes they weren't enforced thoroughly
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: but they've always been listed
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: No, those were rules that did exist.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: acnyway i never turned on those triggers lol
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: unless im at the comp and i turn them right off lol
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: i dont leave those triggers on
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: only had that one to keep myself online
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: anyway dont really matter i dont even relaly play this mud anymore :)
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: trig to keep yourself online has always been legal
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: just on to chat dont matter what chars i have to use
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I would suggest you not continue talking about your former rulebreaking on public channels, however.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: yeah i need to stop talking about those rules things yeah like 11 + yrs ago lol
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: if it's considered botting when you're at your computer, when do complex triggers become botting?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It gives people the wrong impression, that they can do it and not get caught.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: hmm i dont realy know rules are quite different now since i actually played
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when they do stuff that you should have explicitly done
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Gnid: Do they act on their own? If you had to suddenly go afk, would they continue gaining you expperience, in the case of say, an aggro mob?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: ummm i quit playing like 8 +_yrs ago
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: one good general rule of thumb is 'if my triggers would continue earning xp/gold/whatever for me if I suddenly had to go afk, they're illegal'
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: i dont see how those rules apply now
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: autohunt trigger is perfectly legal to take you straight to your target
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: bah daloran you and your faster typing speed
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: autohunt trigger that takes you to your target and sends "kill target" is illegal
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: dont worry i didnt have those triggers on except autolog to keep myself online
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: by those rules, typing kill <whatev> and getting up is botting
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: plus i never used those triggers unless im at the comp playing
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Not really Usher.  It won't continue to kill after that first mob is dead.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no usher, because once that fight is over, nothing else happens
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: usher... Except the mob would eventually kill you, assumedly without heals.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: ffs xzx, just stop talking about them completely, you don't need to suddenly switch to defending yourself
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: thats why i said turn all non esstential triggers off unless your at comp
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: getting up while you're in an aggro repop room IS illegal
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Issit abe? I'd always assume they'd just let you die, assuming there was no healy script
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: so is getting down in an aggro room.  If you feel the need to boogie away from your desk.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: healy scripts are legal ;-)
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: . o O (  ) Habasi rolls on the floor laughing at Blessed Balaam's antics!
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and with melee characters, you won't necessarily die
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Not legal if you leave your char with healy scripts sitting in an aggro room though =p
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right daloran, that's because the going afk in that room is the illegal part, not the heal script
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heal scripts were one of the things explicitly enumerated as legit even before they loosened the botting rules
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I suppose. Though, I don't see how the going afk in the room could really be against rules.... But I'll take your word on it. Then again, afk in a multi-mob aggro room i'd expect to come back dead
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: wow thanks for that clarification abelinc.  i had been wanting to write a pot script but someone suggested it would be botting
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you might come back dead...I'd come back pupped
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Touche.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I guess I've never had 50k hp =p
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: are casting triggers legit? Assuming they require you to initiate the fight
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: usher yes
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: casting trigs aren't usually smart, but they'd be legal as long as you're starting the fighgt
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: why arne't they smart?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: abelinc what would recommend in lieu of an auto casting script
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: well, if you need to quaff or run away, your autocast could have fired and delay you
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: so it could kill you
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: Ah. I have mine set up to either caste or quaff
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: cast*
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: aliases/macros-> alias @spell 123->macro f1 c @spell
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they don't have the intelligence a player does...but if you're in known situations, it's fine
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: /def nuke = st %; mi %1 %; l %; /multi 4 im was one of my usual levelling macros
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: now that I pup in PK rooms, that macro is a bad idea cuz a T9 can attack just after Iattack a MOB, and I'd be stuck waiting too many rounds
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: hmm a lot of people have botting triggers set unless u use telnet like me now :P
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: i mean just semi-botting stuff :P
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: any trigger is capable of botting, it's all in the implementation
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: yeah thats right only trigger that wont get u in trouble is the one that keeps u online :)
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: but i played this vampire mud i got banned cause they didnt allow any trigers even to stay online hehe
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: thanks for all these clarifications
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: no antiidle is a bit extreme
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: heh
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: help botting is a great resource on the subject :-)
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: chuft played one once that made a rule against going afk even without an antiidle
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: when in doubt spam something that looks suspicious. an Imm will gladly help you out *inno
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: . o O (  ) Habasi runs away in utter terror!
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: is there a mud that uses a real sql db and real languages
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: "real languages" ?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: like python or perl
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: against a real db like sqlite
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Erm, If I recall aardwolf is written mostly in LUA at the moment
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: i'm talking about mud clients
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Married Xantcha Tech: There are ways to interface Lua (a real language) within CMud to a real database, I've interfaced it with SQLite, mySQL, and MSSQL
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Then say what you mean =p
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: In that case zmud/cmud can deal with perl and python.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: are there any clients where i can use python
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Well, cmud does python anyway, i believe
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: tt++ can use python pretty easily
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Zmud works in VBScript... javascript..
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dekkath Tech: yay tech :D
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Tech HooRAH
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: how good is tt
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: I <3 tt
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sabaki Tech: I'm having problems getting the Mushclient to work in Wine...i get to type about one letter in the input box, and then i can't type anything else in.  I can copy/paste, however.  Any ideas?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dekkath Tech: install win7 
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dekkath Tech: ;)
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I'd suggest installing Tintin and skipping wine
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: tt's great, but i haven't tried the others much
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sabaki Tech: One thing about the Mushclient that is so great is the map window
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: how is tt compared to cmud
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sabaki Tech: is there support for that sort of thing with tintin or tinyfugue?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dekkath Tech: yeah I love mushclient
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sabaki Tech: well, i'm trying to bring my girlfriend to aard, and i've done a lot of mudding but this is by far the best interface ever (right above the ironrealm's clients)
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: you could pipe the maps to a different session, but you'd have to manually switch between them. So not really.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sabaki Tech: Some report success by disabling COM support in wine, but i am not tech savvy enough to know if that is even my problem.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: it doesn't seem to say that tt can use python or perl completely natively
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Sabaki:  If you are having issues with the input box not accepting input, try tapping alt twice.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sabaki Tech: Okay let me try
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sabaki Tech: alt alt doesn't work :(
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: are you running in win98 mode?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sabaki Tech: Let me check
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sabaki Tech: No, was XP, but switching Wine to 98 didn't work.  I noticed that the freeze on input starts when the tick timer comes up.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sabaki Tech: I have a split second before it comes up when it accept input, i can get a single character in
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sabaki Tech: Maybe if i disable the timer?  How do you do that?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: has anyone used mcl or
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sabaki Tech: mcl?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: mud client
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sabaki Tech: Nope, this is the first client installed on the machine
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: edit the .mcl file.  Remove all plugins.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sabaki Tech: It is Jaunty Jackalope, 64 bit build if that matters
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sabaki Tech: Okay, will remove plugins
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sabaki Tech: Okay, worked!  Thanks so much Balaam
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sabaki Tech: I turned on the other plugins and it seems to work fine, too, btw
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sabaki Tech: Tho the HP/Mana/Moves bars are all weird looking
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sabaki Tech: But that's fine
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sabaki Tech: Sweet sweet you are the best Balaam, i never would have thought :)
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: i'm trying to figure out cmud's db...can someone help me on implementing a query that does "select weapon from eq where lvl < 50 order by lvl desc limit 1"? is there an easy way, or does it involve creating views :-/
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Has anyone seen a good fairly recent shoot out of the various antivirus / internet security packages?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: does anyone use xpertmud
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: is there a way in mushclient to dock screens?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/fully-functional-iphone-3gs-costume-is-expensive-bulky-and-bet/
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dekkath Tech: thats going to be great until they get an embarrassing text and its visible to the whole party
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Lol. Here I was more thinking theft. 
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: But, I suppose thats a bad option as well.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dekkath Tech: heh yeah that too, or spilling drinks
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Also, heavy ass plasma walking around like that.... No thanks.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dekkath Tech: (let alone going as a walking commercial for apple)
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Eh. That.. is a taste thing. If they love apple that much, let em be fanboys.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dekkath Tech: yeah :/  
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MindTorque Tech: I'd be more disposed to do something like this: http://volpinprops.blogspot.com/2009/09/big-daddy-bioshock.html
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: humans wasting money on halloween costumes -- to what purpose other than publicity
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Wow, amazing costume there.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Xyliz.. I believe they call it "fun"
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: If I'm seeing that right...... They hooked up a cordless drill to the drill arm?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MindTorque Tech: Yep, that was a nice touch :)
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: very.... ventilation fans...
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MindTorque Tech: All it needs now is a couple of hatches to let the beer in and out again heh
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Catheter. WHEE
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MindTorque Tech: Of course, some might find making some baconated ice cream more fulfilling heh: http://www.davidlebovitz.com/archives/2008/03/candied_bacon_i_1.html
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: i dont suppose anybody could explain to me y, everytime i type something and enter it, at the bottom of the page its doing some wierd health and stats display eh?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Type statmon
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: ahh thankyou much
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: type statmon
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: is it worth coding lua for mushclient, or will i be able to do about the same with python
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: depends on what you're most comfortable with.  Lua is more fully integrated, as it does not go through WSH, but not all that much extra is added.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: this is so much quicker than cmud
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: is there a way in mushclient to make your last command remain in the prompt
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: rather than having it clear
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Godsmack Tech: im using the normal MUSH client and want to set up a trigger which does beep when my qtimer is done i cant find beep/sound/bell in the help files :S
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Godsmack Tech: someone help?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: you add a sound file to the trigger in the trigger dialog
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Godsmack Tech: k ill check it out :) thanks
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: test
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jyscal Tech: Hey all. I would just like to find out if ayone knows if the mccp proxy download will work with the GNOME MUD client?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: It'll work with any client, but you really should get a real client that has MCCP built in.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: By my understanding of the mccp proxies, one should work with any client. Even telnet. 
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jyscal Tech: Thanks. I'm trying to install wine to use MUSH but am having a few problems getting it to install.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: does anyone have a good solution to capturing channels in mushclient? it's much quicker than cmud but i can't deal with how hard it is to capture channels to different windows
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sikai boggles at the concept.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: it seems to expect me to program extensive windows-height and width in order to make miniwindows, with hotspots that represent tabs and more hotspots to represent scroll bars
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=9713 is a similiar example of what you want to do i believe
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: you're talking about building mini windows with hotspots and such, don't think that's what you want
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: I'm very stuck =( does anyone know a thing about driver files?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: the example i linked you to works off turning on the "channels tag" in your MUD profile settings (help tags)
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: but...different windows looks ugly
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: and windows headers takes up a lot of space? i'm used to cmud's clean docking system
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: k you've completely lost me
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: what extension type does a driver file normally have?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: gregor http://lmgtfy.com/?q=drivers
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: I'm going somewhere very specific with this.....
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: I'm hoping a smart person on here could seriously save me hours on google search engine
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=something+very+specific+with+drivers
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Your attempt at humour is noted, but I am not in the mood especially.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: well you're not being very descriptive.  not making it very easy to help you at all
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: I'm trying to get my wireless network adapter to work on linux
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: using ndiswrapper, not that I've ever used it before
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: because my card cannot run natively on linux since there are no drivers
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: the guide I am looking at tells me I will need the .inf driver file
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: sounds like you need the windows driver equivilent
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enghol Tech: indeed
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: however, when I go to system/device manager and check out the driver details, it gives the name of a .sys file
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: I had to install the network adapter on this computer because it seemed the only way of downloading the drivers I need
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: all windows drivers come with an .inf file
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: so I'm trying to work out which file I'm supposed to drag over to my linux OS so I can attempt to use ndiswrapper along with the windows driver
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: inf fille tells windows setting anc junk like that
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: I have nfc what I'm doing, and it seems the most likely scenario is Im just about to waste ours of my time
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Nods, my question was to be...why does device manager show a .sys file as the driver?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the inf file is a description file...the sys file is the driver itself
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: what abe said
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Great! thanks. Would I need both to try and get the network adapter running on linux via ndiswrapper?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but the OS won't know what to do without the inf file...when you install drivers on windows, you select the inf file...then windows selects the appropriate other files
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: if anyone knows or has ever done this before.....
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: oops lag spike
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's really ndiswrapper that you need to know about, not really drivers
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: I have a guide which will hopefully get me through the ndiswrapper stage...because I don't know what I'm doing AT ALL. Currently I'm just trying to work out which files I will need to drag over.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: and the problem I was having is the guide I'm looking at just mentions a .inf file, nothing about a .sys.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Perhaps the guide is incomplete or assumes prior knowledge, I am not sure.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's never a harm with unpacking the driver zip and putting EVERYTHING onto the linux box...worst case it ignores some files and there's a meg or three wasted
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: oh noes my megs
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Ok, thanks, I will transfer the entire directory and see where I can get
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the guide I'm looking at specifies both the .inf and the .sys...http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Networking/NdisWrapper_The_Ultimate_Guide/
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Hmm, this looks much more thorough than the one I have. Thanks Abelinc =)
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-)
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: is there any way in mushclient to make windows dock, or resize with the larger window, or something?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: or get rid of the huge window titles
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: also, how do people edit and test mush scripts/plugins? first of all, i can't get the code to syntax-highlight because it's always inside a huge xml chunk. then, in order to test a plugin, i have to save, go into mush's menus and select plugin, select the right plugin, click reinstall, close that screen, then test it. and if there's something broken, i have to do the whole thing over again
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for new stuff, make it outside plugins, then make it a plugin when you're ready
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: outside plugins?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: ramier, if you use notepad++ you can select the syntax highlighting.  also you can make an alias to load/reload the plugin 
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, a plugin is nothing more than a set of aliases/triggers/variables/etc that you have told MUSH to package into a single "thing"
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: abelinc is talking about using the mushclient alias/triggers prompts then wizard it into a plugin
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: oh i see
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you make plugins by making those things individually, then telling MUSH "I want this set of stuff to be a plugin"
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: works for some people i guess
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: i guess i'm too used to cmud's immediate deployment
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: until you're familiar enough with the syntax and the xml file setup to begin to make them from scratch in file form
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i prefer to keep whatever i'm working on seperate in case poop hits the fan i can just disable it
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: alias to reload sounds nice. and i'll try notepad++, vim isn't highlighting correctly
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: while the files are listed as .xml, they're not compliant .xml
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: i see
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: something like if ReloadPlugin ("966d42fb57b1cb614117e813") == error_code.eNoSuchPlugin then LoadPlugin("plugin/path")
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: where that number is the plugin ID
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: any suggestions on how to make windows, like that for chat-captures, dock into the main window, or resize along with the main window?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: miniwindows or floating windows
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: floating. thats why i wanted to code tabs/scroll into hotspots, because at least then it can resize with the window
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: refer to the link i gave you about 30 minutes ago
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: all it does is filter chat into another floating window...it doesn't do anything with resizing the window does it?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: you can resize the window to whatever you want and mushclient should save the variables as to the window location and size
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: it would be a neat idea to create a miniwindow in the new floating window with hotspot tabs altering the channel display though
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i kinda wanna do that now
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sikai sighs.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i already have too much crap on my plate right now though
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: floating window?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: but i'm saying, if i'm neurotic and need to change the size of the overall mushclient window every minute
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: well i say floating window when i mean a new 'world' but ramier is new to mushclient 
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: ):
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: but mush windows don't "float"?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: the move around freely and are freely resizable, what's your definition of floating
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: they*
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: hahaha
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: you should make those miniwindows with hotspots now and give me the code. :D
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: floating as in floating over top of another window
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: ya you can do that if you want
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: i haven't used lua before, and the previous lack of syntax highlighting and difficulty in debugging was killing me
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: don't get me wrong i like mush, it's fast and stable
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i'm not a huge fan of lua.  i use python for my scripts
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: oh! i wanted to too, but everyone told me no
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: i like python
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: i've learned lua a bit, at least now i can set and retrieve variables
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: well you can run into some hiccups now and then, so it's good to know how to use the lua script frontend
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: how often do you find....hiccups
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: not very often.  i can usually find a work around.  you just gotta keep in mind mush wasn't designed to support python
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: like OO in perl
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: which windows implementation of python should i get?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: lemme find the one i used that worked no problem
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ramier licks Sikai.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: http://www.activestate.com/activepython/
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: thanks!
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: just install and restart mush and it should recognize the new script engine.  if not try giving it a restart
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: ok
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: how well does mush deal with python 3
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: dunno haven't tried it
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: Many 3rd-party modules and extensions that you may depend upon may not yet be available for Python 3. [Currently this includes the Python for Windows (pywin32) extensions that are a default part of ActivePython on Windows.]
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: i guess that's a no
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i wouldn't mess with it
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: what do you need in python 3
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: nothing, but if i can use the latest, why not
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: because it could possibly not be compatible :P
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: and since mush already wasn't designed to deal with python i wouldn't push it :P
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: mmhmm
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: i was thinking of trying one of the other lesser-known native-python mud clients, but they all seem to be abandonned
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: have you tried any of them?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: nope
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: coming from cmud, my main issue is always not being able to dock capturing windows >.<
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: supposedly Nick Gammon author of mush client is going to be moving away from the whole seperate worlds thing and moving to something more unified
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: so we'll see what happens i 'spose
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: maybe make miniwindows easier, because those implemented to capture windows with custom tabs and scroll would be amazing
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: ya i think that's what he said he was going with.  don't recall the forum post very well
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: i think python's working now! woohoo
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: nice 
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: are there any sample python scripts out there for mush to get started with?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: hrm try parusing the forum.  i have some but not really any ready for distribution
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: oooh, there's a plugin for hp bars that's written to allow a miniwindow to be dragged around
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: now that's nice
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, gammon has lots of example miniwindows plugins on the site
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: in the newest mush it comes with a module that allows you to easily tack on a drag and move action to a miniwindow.  unfortunately it's written in lua
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: the newest? as in 4.43?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: it might have started coming with 4.42 or so but i know 4.43 has it for sure
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: ooo, notepad++ really can highlight the lua chunk as lua
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sikai smiles happily.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: is there a way to enable vim's modes in npp?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: and you can easily go back to xml highlighting too
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i'm pretty sure there is, haven't used vim in a while though
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: the hjkl movement and inserting
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: hmmmm
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: is there a way to get the width of a miniwindow in another plugin via the ID? in mush
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: look at WindowInfo?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hawkings Tech: is there a way to 'easily' convert aliases/triggers/macros/etc from zmud to mush?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hawkings, depends on how complex the script is...for just aliases, it should be pretty easy to just do a search & replace
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hawkings Tech: i am trying to figure out how to get the value of a variable in mush. in zmud you just say ar. it seems from the documentation that you need to do something like GetVariable("var"), but it doesn't seem to work, anybody got any ideas?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hawkings nods at you in agreement. 
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how to get the value depends on whether it's a local, global, or lua variable
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: Send (GetVariable("var")) then make sure you have it send to script and not world
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hawkings Tech: hmmm, how do u define the scope of variable?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: ?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hawkings Tech: abelinc said that u can define a var is either local or global
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hawkings Tech: just wondering if there is some special syntax to differiate between local and global
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: oh, never bothered with that myself
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the scope is determined by how you create it...if you use setvariable, it'll be a lua variable, if you do variablename = foo, it's a mush variable
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hawkings Tech: can u call variables from aliases? or only from other scripts?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: you can call variables from Zmud aliases.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can call or set variables from aliases
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hawkings Tech: yup, but i am asking about mush
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: Send (GetVariable("mana"))
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hawkings Tech: ok, going to try it out - thx
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: in my case "mana" is quaff medi
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: Any ideas why this doesn't work in zmud script?: #IF (@debug) {#ECHO SQL: @Sql} {}
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hawkings Tech: doesn't like 'Send'
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: change it to send to script
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hawkings Tech: already done that,  i get a script error
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: how is it not working, Fark?  From what you've shown, ebug must be false but you don't have it doing anything in the false part of the if
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: err, ebug
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: err, ebug
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if debug is false, nothing happens, if debug is true it sends {#ECHO SQL: <expanded variable here>} {} as a command
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: you have lua set as your scripting language?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: which of course, zmud goes: Eh? at
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hawkings Tech: yup
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: you probably have an extra curly brace in there then
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: yes, but there isn't
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hawkings Tech: do i need expand variables on or off?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: you know it doesn't have to be in that particular code, or even in the trigger/alias/etc housing it, right?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: i have mine off
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hawkings Tech: on the second line of my script i have : remove Send (GetVariable ("lvl_90flame")) 
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: rest of the code goes off without a hitch
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hawkings Tech: where i want remove my lvl_90flame weapon
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: put the remove part in the variable
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: does it work correctly if you take out the echo?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: then just Send (GetVariable ("lvl_90flame"))
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: believe so
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hawkings Tech: how can i put the remove part in the variable?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: when you set it
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: some commands in ZMud are bugged up enough that you can't use them in certain ways, even though there's nothing syntactically wrong with doing it that way
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hawkings Tech: oh, no - i don't want to do that. then i cannot do other things with that variable
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: tell me about it
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i can't do any editting of classes within zmud because of a bug that means it discards all the changes when you click save
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: you can try using  on your echo text, maybe the problem is how ZMud is interpreting it.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: using what?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: dammit, the concat function
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: ok then you'll have to do something like Send (remove, GetVariable(... you might have to look up the syntax somewhere
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hawkings Tech: for the record, you can call variables from aliases in mush exactly the same as in zmud
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hawkings Tech: by using ar
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hawkings Tech: by using @var
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can use @var, yes
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hawkings Tech: lol, now u tell me
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: ah ok thanks
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but again that depends on the type of variable
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hawkings Tech: so, a var declared as @var, is that global scope?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you set the variable with SetVariable, then you can't use @var
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You can use something like lastsent = GetVariable ("lastsent") to have lastsent exist in both MUSH and lua
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hawkings Tech: how about setting the value of 1 variable equal to another? eg. @var is assigned to @var2
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: holy crap, lua starts indexing at 1
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ramier grumbles and growls. You wonder what's wrong...
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Enghol gasps in astonishment.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: does anyone want to come to barney and help me test leader % caps?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: is there a lua string format argument that turns integers into comma-delimited numbers like 1,234,567?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: i'm getting the hang of mush and lua and it's so much better than z/cmud
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yaomiqui nods.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: is it wrong that i'd love for there to be a dark-age with regards to technology?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Farky...you're fired!
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: why? technology was way better 25 years ago
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because you're not needed if there's a tech dark age :P
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: i'm just glad lua has elseif, something i missed using zmud
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dekkath Tech: unless you are techno viking
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: so? i'll go live in a wood with a campfire, a beard, a guitar and some cannabis
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so that's why you're fired
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: isn't that how you already live?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: why am i fired?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i wish, gonf
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: you can use lua with cmud :P
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd just nest ifs for an elseif ;-)
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: don't be silly, i'd be using assembler
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: farkyss, becacuse your job isn't to go live in the woods...
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: we'd all have to live off the land at that point
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: anyone know what method the latest bunch of fake av trojans uses to infect machines?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: test
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: yes, you're still there
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: test
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Starling peers intently at Ramier.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: testtech
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: hello
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: HOLY CRAP IT WORKS
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Learn From Einstein Tech: THANKS for objectid lasher.. long time in coming
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: sweet
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: thank him with $$s
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Lasher Tech: multiplayers dont like it.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Hrn, Now if only invdetails worked on auction =p
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: i can't seem to find documentation on trigger scripts' "style" argument
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: O.O
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ramier hops around like a little kid. 
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: can only use styles in lua
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: oh hi there. i'm trying to look up documentation for it but i can't find any...such as how to manipulate styles and how to wrap text in styles
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: but i have a miniwindow all set up with channel caps!
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: cmud has a wat to deal with styles easly now woot
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: abc
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: def
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: QWERTY?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Melthalas Tech: hi, I'm going to be a little annoying again and flame me if it's approriate BUT, I'm still really struggling to set up a variable so i can change a target for macros and stuff with CMud, any help would be greatly appreciated
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: is there something i need to do to enable regexes for triggers in mush?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: there is a check box on the trigger dialog
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: add regexp="y" in xml file or just tick the Regular expression
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: o. i need to add that line whoops
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: what would i do without you sikai
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sikai smiles happily.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i am a friendly Emerald Knight now and everything :P
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: friendly
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: you disagree?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ramier chuckles at Sikai's joke.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: so i got miniwindows for all the captures i used to have in cmud, and they're all resizeable along with the main win!
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: good job man.  i had faith in you
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: i haven't quite figured out how to wordwrap easily, without looping through luatables, so
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: i just have to write short lines
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Melthalas Tech: can anyone help me to set up a target variable in CMud?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: what's a target variable
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Melthalas Tech: so that I can press t=self for example then use macros for spells or whatever
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: what's the issue?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: #alias {t=%1} {#var {target} {%1}}
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Melthalas Tech: I'm useless at this technical stuff and i want to set up some macros and stuff for spells
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Melthalas Tech: thank you
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: might want to check the syntaxes, thats tt++ scripting.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Melthalas Tech: hmm doesn't seem to be working with CMud
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Melthalas Tech: i'm really daft, I had this once before and forgot it
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Melthalas Tech: ah well, good job I can type fast!
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Nod, like i said, the syntaxes should be close, but you may have to change some of it
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Melthalas Tech: may i ask one more really stupidly simple question?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Sure
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Melthalas Tech: say for example instead of typing out cast 'bless' , i want to type cb, how do i set that up?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Melthalas Tech: I'm a real stupid noob at this!
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Im not sure what the cmud syntax is, but if you are just spelling self, why not try the "spellup" command, that you already have mud-side?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: use mud aliases because they're better...."alias cb cast bless"
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Melthalas Tech: perfect thank you ramier
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Melthalas Tech: that's gonna make my life much easier!
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: i'm glad
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Is it intentional that "invdata" shows the color codes, and plain text, and "eqdata" shows the equipment without tags, but fully colored? Or a bug
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Anyone know what the last 4 sections are for on the {invheader} tag?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oryn Tech: in TF, if I do a /alias while in game, what's the command to save that? /save only seems to save /def's
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Isn't * supposed to match even no characters in zmud? 
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: according to the help file I think so
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: hrn.... odd.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: don't think i've ever used it to match none so i can't confirm if it works
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ah, just trying to get it to work with the new invdetails stuff.... sometimes theres no variables in parts of the tags, so trying to use things like {invdata}&{ObjectId}|&{ObjectLevel} etc
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i can't quite yet decipher alot of invmon spits out
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: or invdetails
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: A lot of it you can just confirm with the identify spell.. some parts i dont get though
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sikai nods.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: exactly
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: {invheader}ObjectID|Level|Type|Worth|WT|Wearable|flags|Owner|Clan or Area| is all ive worked out for the header
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: the trailing slots i've not found any items that have any info there
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Hrn, Oddly using * works but not using &*{Varname}
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: i think  might be * by default so you don't need it
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Even so Inferno - &{Varname} isn't matching a null space while * does
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Inferno shrugs helplessly.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Blargh. Thats going to make this more of a pita then it should be.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Using (*) to match it and then #VAR to store it works, but using &Var directly doesn't much a null string..... lame
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: doesn't match a null string, rather
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Hrn, Learning regular expressions is probably incredibly useful outside of mudscripting, yeah?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: except that it's almost never regular
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Indispensible
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's quite useful if you intend anything computer-related
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: sikai.. eh? never regular? whatcha mean?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: daloran, there are "flavors" of regexp
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: everything implements it a little differently typically
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the regexp cookbook is a great resource for knowing how to treat the flavors
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ahhhhhhh gotcha. Different programming languages, and such?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: even just program to program
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: abelinc.. you know the publisher offhand?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: check out http://www.regular-expressions.info/
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: you're talking about the o'reilly cookbook right? jan goyverts and steven levithan
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Their is an O'Reilly Media regexp book. Shrew or something on the cover.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: same one, arnica
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: There
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: I couldn't pick a shrew out of a lineup.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You snicker softly.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: oh ya well shrew you buddy!
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Very nice, Abe. Thanks 
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I use jan goyvert's text editor when on winderz
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: i use notepad++, always.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can't touch bbedit, but then again nothing I've seen can :P
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Which is what?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: editpad pro
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i'm with chico, i'm pretty diehard on notepad++
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: if not that then i'd probably use vim
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I have nvi on the unix systems
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arnica . o O ( emacs )
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ive been using the notepad++ as well
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: I hear emacs is a good O/S but it lacks a decent text editor.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sikai gets a blank look on his face.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oryn Tech: *chuckle*
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: lol... nice
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dunno, ola uses emacs as a game platform
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: is the aardwolf server's main login ip 208.43.193.234 ?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: i just use aardmud.org...
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "ping aardmud.org"
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: ahh, duh.. thanks.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: is the ! repeating the last command a aardwolf thing, or a tt++ thing?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aard
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: aard
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: vark
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude sits down and thinks deeply. 
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rau Tech: lots of clients also do it
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: 8slap vampiredu
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: other muds have same thing built on
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chicomecoatl misses the shift key for the ten billionth time, then breaks his keyboard over his knee.
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: Any generalization on it? I want an easy way to repeat the command before the last command?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: #config
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: some muds you can do !2 for second last and stuff, this one can't though
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rau Tech: lots of clients also do it
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: There is a tt option to push enter to do it again, or hit the arrow key up instead
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rau Tech: heh !2 works on zmud it seems :o
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: some muds you can do !2 for second last and stuff, this one can't though
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: awe :(
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: just repeats last thing here on mush
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Its the mud processing it, not mush
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: I guess i'll do the hard thing with alias's and what not. Thanks guys
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: can't you scroll up in a command history with the up arrow?
T1/r7/2009-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude is lookin to PiMpsLaP Usher better warn him quick!
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: in mush is there a good way to output color codes from script like "a @YBag of @RAardwolf@w"
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: or do i need to parse it myself
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Lasher Tech: well the 'brute force' way would be to toggle 'rawcolor', execute your command, toggle it back.
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Lasher Tech: which, btw, is exactly what invdata does.
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: hrm...
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: bah, what would you know about tha... erm... nevermind.
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i'm wanting to go the other way around i think
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: In Zmud, is there a good way to condense multiple spaces in a string down to a single space?
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: or maybe i've misunderstood
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: sub "  " with " "
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Balaam.. if you had 3 spaces though, wouldn't that just make it in to 2 spaces?
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Or would it turn 2/3 of them in to a space, then see that there was 2 spaces, and do it again
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: if you can use regex, sub " {2,}" with " "
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I assume " {2,}" Means 2 or more spaces?
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: ah yes i don't want the MUD to output color codes, i want mush to output a string that has color codes in it
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Score..  That worked swimmingly Balaam
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: quick!  Take it out of the water!  Computers can't swim.
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Bwah. =) Thanks again
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: well if it's a pool a mineral oil, it might be ok
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: pool of*
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: side benefit of oil cooled computer cases:  all th tasty fries
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i've wanted to build a fish tank tower for a while, but it's kind of a hassle
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I'd like the silence of the submerged pc.. but I open mine up too much to pop drives in and out
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: ya exactly.  hassle
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Trying to organize the bioilluminescent fish into a screen is really tough, too.
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: i can attest to oil cooled components getting fried though.  got a neat cpu cooler that had it's own self contained water cooling.  worked great until one day the reservoir exploded and fried my nice mobo.  now i have a cheap mobo :(
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: and a stock cpu cooler :/
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You said oil cooled, and water cooled..... .=o
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: w/e same thing
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No its not.
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: obviously there's not water in there
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: in reference to computers, water cooling never actually means water
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: my motherboard has a built in oil radiator to pull heat away from the graphics cards.  I should probably get a card that are hot enough for it to be put to good use.
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: or send it to me...
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Er Sikai, water cooling often means water
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: how about "liquid cooled"?
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Distilled water, usually with additive
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: additives meaning antifreeze.
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: well i don't know for certain what the cooler used then.  there was liquid in it.  felt oily
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Antifreeze is probably not what I'd use, but yeah, the same additives are in antifreeze
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: wtech why not just use tap water to surround your tower cheap and easy :P
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: just make a scasing for the water lol like icepacks :P
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: apparently cmud is saying that 0 which is 2 !=< 1 -.- ugh stupid cmud
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dekkath Tech: how can 0 be 2? :P
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: that was susposta be a var ... im not use to how cmud parses yet
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dekkath Tech: ah ok
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Well, 2 is not equal or less then 1, so it should be false, Hadar
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Wait, nevermind
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daloran buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: does !=< evaluate as something?
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Why use !=<? Why not just use >
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dekkath Tech: >=
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: no, >
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: there we go i have a var in a diffrent module with the same name set to 0
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dekkath Tech: oh 
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: "Not Less then, Or equal to" .. Why not just use > ? just curious
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i lied its still being stupid
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Wouldn't "not equal or less than" just mean "greater than"? :P
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: hadar, what are you actually trying to do?
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: #IF {obsleft <= 1} {say true} {recapturecampaignlist} ... right now the var is set to 2 and its still spitting out true
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: no, greater than doesn't include what you are comparing to.  For example, 1 equals 1 would prove false if you were using just greater than
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: #IF {@mobsleft <= 1} {say true} {recapturecampaignlist} ... right now the var is set to 2 and its still spitting out true
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dekkath Tech: makes sense to me
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Urwin: He was using !=<
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: I know, it was Balaam asking the question
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Same Hadar... Why use <= 1 and not just use obsleft > 0
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: well, what if you have a quarter of a mob left?
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Er,
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Same Hadar... Why use <= 1 and not just use @mobsleft > 0
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I can only assume mobs left will be a discrete quantity =p
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i set it the way it is for testing purposes
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: or just mobsleft.  Without the rest of the expression, it'd evaluate as true (any non-zero) or false (0 or blank)
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: the thing is, that if the number is 1 and i kill my last cp mob i dont want it to cp check again because it causes un-necessary lag to my scripts that fire
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: but even with @mobslist > 1 it still fires on 1
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I think >0 and >=1 would be equivlent, no?
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Again, unless you have 0.25 mobs.
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod, but if you have .25 campaign mobs left, something is broken in your script =p
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: last mob at 25% health.  It's a really friggin good script :p
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Touche.
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: something is broken here is my new test #IF {@mobsleft >= 2} {say true} {recapturecampaignlist} ... @mobsleft is set to 1 ... it still spit out a true
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: im stoopid
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i figured it out
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: syntax errors are a pain
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: ya it was set to #IF {} insted of #IF ()
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dekkath Tech: heh thatl do it :p
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: especially when they happen to line up seamlessly with the parser so that the compiler doesn't throw any errors
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: But hey, now you know :)
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: im still finding small errors like that throughout all my scripts
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: could be worse i could ask on tech channel and no one catch it either :P
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: that was weird cmud sent out a command, but it was not parsed like an alias ... ugh
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Anyone have a router running bittorrent / file server?
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: i was wondering if anyone that had cable internet and a DVR thing noticed any slowdown with their internet connection ?
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: any debian users ?
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: used to be
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: but i'm not too advanced with linux
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Using Zmud, Can anyone give me any idea as to why "%if( (bjectType==Weapon), ~Avg Dam: ~bjectAVGDam)" .. .the color codes aren't outputted, the result I end up with is "Dam: 240"
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: er...
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Using Zmud, Can anyone give me any idea as to why "%if( (@ObjectType==Weapon), ~@YAvg Dam: ~@w@ObjectAVGDam)" .. .the color codes aren't outputted, the result I end up with is "Dam: 240"
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: because it's incorrectly formatted!!!1
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ah nevermind
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Sorry, turned off parsing, but ate my extra @ 
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Im just confused because it evaluates to true - it displays the string, But the colors won't show.. if i strip them out it works fine
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i think it's an issue with parsing
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ah, got a fix I suppose.
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: try quotes?
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Using Zmud, Can anyone give me any idea as to why "%if( (@ObjectType==Weapon), "~@YAvg Dam: ~@wbjectAVGDam)" .. .the color codes aren't outputted, the result I end up with is "Dam: 240"
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod, That works.. though..... It seems like the escape characters should solve it..
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's because zmud doesn't make use of the @ color codes
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Dag, I know. I'm trying to send the @ to the mud, thats why I escaped them
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: if you used it on a channel it would work
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It is being sent to a channel.
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: without the quoatations it eats the color codes though, even though they're properly escaped
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: not sure, color codes don't seem to work properly in long scripts, need to escape them a couple of times
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: zmud's buggy like that :p
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: subregex them to %ansi() codes
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Will aard accept ansi codes instead of its own?
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: So my Wii is having trouble connecting to my wireless connection. Is there any add-on that will strengthen the Wii's wireless conectivity that can be purchased or am I screwed?
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Happydog Madcatz Tech: Wireless internet, or just a wireless router on a hard-wired internet?
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: external antenna full of quicksilver will solve that problem
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Happydog Madcatz Tech: And are you the same Yuna from like...8 years ago? :P
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hawkings Tech: anybody know how to call 1 alias from another alias in mush?
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: any Mushclient users know how I can write a trigger to work on tick?
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: cant seem to be able to trigger just on --> TICK <--
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hawkings Tech: can't u just use --> TICK <-- as your pattern?
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: Tried, doesnt seem to work
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dekkath Tech: lol wut    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXye_nHk9eg&feature=related
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: what is the name or the symbol you use in mysql to find things that are "similar"
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: LIKE
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: use % as wildcards 
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: sikai never lies
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: is there an easy way to convert a java program to UML in eclipse? some sort of easy to learn program?
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: l
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: could be a fajita, too
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oops
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: is there some construct in lua or mush's xml where i can group aliases or triggers in a plugin? like classes?
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: so my computer smells funny...how bad is this
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: naah it smells more like something is too hot...but all fans are going and its 60 in the room so i don't understand
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: accumulated dust syndrome
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: can someone help explain what this means:
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: Line    8: Plugin "id" field must be unique for this world (problem in this file)
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: (i'm on mush)
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the xml file for the plugin, there's an ID number
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that number must be different for every plugin
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: nods, i saw it
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: (that was obvious from the use of "world")
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: so how can i fix it?
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're trying to load one that is the same as another
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: can i just change it to something random?
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and xyliz, nearly all MUD clients use the term world, so that was no indication that he's on mush
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: omg abe don't tell me you don't know :(
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, but I'd guess that the one that shares the id with it is really a modified version of the same plugin
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you'd give me a second to respond :P
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: haha no no, i meant about somethign else, sorry
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: (did zmud get on that bandwagon of pretentious mudclients that use the word "world")
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can use a random number if you're sure that it won't have conflicting info
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: hmm alright, i'll give it a shot, thanks :)
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as MUDs were called worlds, nothing pretentious about it at all
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: is there a good way to time something in t++? I thought of setting up a ticker to do something each second, but that seems ineffecient
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: set a variable to timestamp, then compare current timestamp to variable's timestamp
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: tickers cause lag when badly implemented by the mudclient
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: oh thanks abe, it worked btw :)
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not in any mudclient I've ever touched
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cool :-)
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: touch the old zmuds
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: Is there a way in tt++ to get the timestamp? I could port it through python, but I don't think that will be much better than the ticker
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'd be better than a ticker because you'd be grabbing the time only twice...start and completion...there is a way in tt++, but I don't use it, so can't give syntax help, just abstract howto help
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: what's the #win command in cmud to bring the Status Window window to focus?  the others work by specifying the title.
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: I've got a 5 port switch from linksys with an "uplink" rj-45...
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: I've got a 5 port switch from linksys with an "uplink" rj-45... can I use it as a "router" in a sense if I plug in a cable running from the switch to the dorm room wall connection?
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: only if the dorm room wall connection already acts as the router...your switch doesn't have router brains
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: Ah tt++ is driving me nuts. Is there no easy way to set a variable to the output of a #sys call?
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: Anyone track Exp per sec? I just started and its remarkably consistent
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea, i do
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: YOUR FACE is remarkably consistant.
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: any tips on what do do with that data? I'm using it now to figure out which lvl range to hunt
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: thank you
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: your spelling is not consistent, however.
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Balaam: Maybe it's just consistently bad. Every think about that? =p
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: nothing much other than to just make sure it's consistent/ gauge how long you'll need to level?
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: My spelling habits have the consistency of Jello.
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Mmmmmmm Jello. nomnomnom
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Wonder if you could use a CNC laser cutter on jello
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Didn't CNC make a music factory at some point in the 90's?
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: ill cut your jello with my lightsaber
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: CNC = Computer Numerical Control
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: CNC Clavellis N Cole
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Abelinc wins.
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Meh, But in context, that doesn't make sense.
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in balaam's context it does ;-)
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I live in my own little world of random references.
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my dad made cnc laser & die cutters for almost 30 years
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Touche.
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: turtles?
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: TONIGHT I DINE ON TURTLE SOUP
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sweet!
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: But I liked Touche Turtle...  and you are going to eat him??
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: one of the ladies my dad made cnc machines with used to kill snapping turtles for turtle soup :-)
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I'm not going to ask how you kill a turtle with a CNC machine.
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: smash it to death duh
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Boil them, mash them, throw them in a stew
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: she usually roped the head & the tail, and used a 22 rifle to the head :-)
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Go go gadget google - Apparently, of the last 7 days, my search trend, 100% of my searches were during the month of october =p
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: amazing
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Hrm...  seems they patched the rift in time that was allowing for searches to go through four months before you entered them.
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Seems odd they felt the need to graph that out for me.
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: are snapping turtles an endangered species
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: only in areas with lots of CNC machines, apparently.
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: snapping turtles are not endangered.  Plymouth Red-Bellied Turtles are, though.  And I like the name.
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: turtles are long-lived -- long-lived species deserve more respect
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: So anyone have any idea why companies are so keen on sieve filtering for email all of a sudden?
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: maybe finding ways to fire u lol
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: let me rephrase...  anyone have any intelligent ideas about why it is becoming popular?
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: so employees, do not waste company rescources to do personal things :P
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: or in orther words slack off
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Xzx, read RFC 5233 so that you can make an informed comment.
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: hmm actually i dont have time to read all those notes :(
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Ah, well then you won't get the chance to see how out of context your own comments were.
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: well ok sorry :) yeah i didnt even finish the work i was suppose to do today :)
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: somehow I'm not surprised.
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: anyway not like that work, i do can finish fast need like 8 hrs lol
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You do can finish fast? Thats awesome.
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: Balaam: If I'm right in what 5233 is all about, its a good way to figure out whos selling your email. Dunno if companies care, but I do
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: then use  bank=emailxample.com or creditcard=emailxample.com
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: erm... use  bank=email@example.com or creditcard=email@example.com
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: right. The standard for doing stuff like that seems to come from RFC 5233, no?
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: note that most spammers now strip off anything before the = sign because of that.
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: no, that's for mailbox sorting.  user+mailbox@example.com
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: anyone use a jail broken iphone?
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Anyone know offhand if the apple time capsule can be used from linux or windows pcs? or is it strictly mac
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'll work as an NAS and a wifi access point, just can't use the time machine backup software
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Can be used with windows. I was going to get one, but then realized my PowerPC Mac Mini won't run Time Machine. .o0(Get's torqued at Apple's business model again.)
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldraxis Tech: what would be the least work visible mud client that is not telnet?
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasdeja Tech: for what os
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldraxis Tech: xp
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tinyfugue, for all OSes ;-)
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: tintin as well
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasdeja Tech: tf is nice. tt++ is a good choice 
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mimelle Tech: Muckclient? hehe
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: least work visible?  mxit :p
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: MUSHclient allows for minimising to the system tray only, making it not show up as a program tab.  I'm almost sure other clients can do that as well.
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mxit sux as a MUD client...midpssh or pocketputty are much better if you insist on using a phone...
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I used to just use pssh to connect to a server with a client running in a screen session.  Much easier.
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, that's the best option
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: plenty of freeshell servers out there to load tt or tf onto
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldraxis Tech: Yes.. I'm on a locked pc on xp
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: flash drives ftw
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldraxis Tech: USB is blocked
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: secretly playing games on the employers' time without the employer's permission is likely 'illegal' or at least some form of theft
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not illegal, just a fireable offense
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: I very much doubt it is illegal
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasdeja Tech: It most certainly is not illegal.
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: In an exeedingly roundabout way in the U.S. it is theft of utilities, which is a federal offence.
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: it depends if the employee is playing games on their free time
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: pretty sure it violates the contract?
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasdeja Tech: In the US, we call it "work"
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: Against company policy, would be the better verbage :p
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: not illegal... that's the wrong terminology
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasdeja Tech: or better, "my code's compiling."
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Kasdeja.
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: There are a multitude of circumstances where it is illegal.
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: yes, for instance, if you kill someone while doing it
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You snicker with her about your shared secret.
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: well, as long as you can do your own work on time i guess its ok, but if any employer wants to find reasons to fire you, they can check your compute usage
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Like if you open a hole in the boundary to connect.
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: In the US, most employers don't need a reason to fire you
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: That is a solution...  kill anyone who would report you.  That would ensure that the legality is not questioned.
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Depends on the state, Usher.
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on whether it's an at-will employment state
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: 2 weeks' notice
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: yeah thats right they can fire u for any reason, but u can galso get unemployment
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasdeja Tech: Indeed. wiki 'at-will' employment
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: at will does not mean u cant get unemployment :P
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: getting unemployment doesn't mean you have a job
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasdeja Tech: which is why most companies will 'ask you to resign' :)
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: at will has nothing to do with unemployment...just means you don't need just cause
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: however, even in an at will employment state, employers aren't quite at will to fire
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: yep employers still need a raeason to fire u, so their uneployment insurance does not go up
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's still tons of holes in the sphere of ability to fire
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: As long as they don't give the reason of race, creed, etc...
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: The legal wording on this always amuses me, it goes something like "We can fire you for no reason, but not for any reason."
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasdeja Tech: not for any discriminatory reason.
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: one company I worked for had an interesting first option for their "voluntary quit" paperwork.  They somehow decided that dying was a voluntary quit.
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I suppose it IS a no-call no-show...
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: some more forward looking companies do encourage staff to take downtime to foster creativity :P
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: yeah... what's googles thing? something like 20% of your time spent working on personal projects
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: lol yah. i doubt if i aarded all day at work, i'd be much more creative
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: hee :)
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: else, staff just practise presenteeism. show up for work but not producing... surfing net etc. :) or wudever they can get around IT systems etc.
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mimelle Tech: I'm using a trial of Cmud. Would anyone know why I'm getting this all the time?: {stats}14/13,21/20,22/22,15/14,31/23,22/21,100,100,71,27,24,You are Standing.,9999,295/295,276/276,449/628,5853,46,0,44,471,9,5
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: statmon
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: type statmon
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: type statmon
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "tags off"
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: typing statmon will get rid of that, but won't get rid of things like {chan ch=tech}...tags off does all
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mimelle Tech: Whoa thank you
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: better than turning them off, though, is actually using them...you can find some cmud scripts that gag but still use those by going to davos.aardcharn.com
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mimelle Tech: strange that I didn't see those with other clients
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the MUSHclient from Aard's site turns those on, and hides them from you, because it uses them by default
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so if you used another client first, they were off...then if you used MUSH from Aard's site, that turned them on...then using any other client you'd see them because they'd be on, but without the scripts to use and hide them
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mimelle Tech: that's exactly what happened. thanks Cain...or Abelinc...or..
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: in which system is (Request For Confirmation/Comment) RFC 5233
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: what do you mean by "in which system"?
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: RFC is a generic acronym
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: telling somebody to read an RFC ## is like telling them to read WhitePaper ###  or Paragraph ####
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: http://www.rfc-archive.org/getrfc.php?rfc=5233
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RFCs for Internet standards aren't system-specific...
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not true, xyliz, they're not generic, they're all registered in the same place
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but nice try
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: LInux discussions use a lot of RFCs
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes they do
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they have NOTHING to do with Linux, though
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: I keep thinking you're saying KFC. Now I want greasy chicken. Thanks.
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Microsoft just tends to ignore RFCs.  Or decides to "improve" them randomly.
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: gag me with a spoon. kfc is some horrible crap
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasdeja Tech: RFCs just define what's supposed to be the interoperable standard between two heterogenous systems, SMTP for example
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: KFC taste very little like actual Kentucky Fried Chicken.
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: had you googled RFC 5233, you would've noticed that every single hit knew exactly what you were asking about...
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldraxis Tech: kasdeja you're not from Sydney are you?
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasdeja Tech: Nope, Chicago.
T1/r7/2009-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldraxis Tech: alrighty :)
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radikal Tech: Any easy way to copy/paste ASCII art into descrip?
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what trouble are you having?
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: any line that doesn't start with a period should just paste right in...you can add a single space, or even a @w before all lines to ensure that they won't trip anything MUDside
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radikal Tech: Well, I just tried once, and it disconnected me. Should I just copy/paste line by line?
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your client probably had an issue with how much stuff you pasted at once...descriptions have a limit to how much they can contain anyway, so don't bother with TOO much of a paste
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for notes, I generally paste about 100 lines at a time...that's a hella lot more than a desc can take tho
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: Doesn't aard dc you if you send too much info at once as well?
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radikal Tech: I'm thinking that's what happened...
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Learn From Einstein Tech: anyone knows how i can parse each individual color code, like @W in the invdata output and replace it with [0;57;40m for example
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: s//\[0;57;40m/g
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: I used the  function in a #forall loop
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: s/@w/\[0;57;40m/g
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: ahem, the replace function
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: how hard is it to convert a tt++ script to a tinyfugue?
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: I'm looking at the mcl file for mushclient and I cannot see where lua variables are saved, do they not persist between sessions?
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I was afk...  hope this gets to you.  Lua variables are not saved between sessions.
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oryn Tech: can someone send me an example tfrc with something that catches "You lost your concentration..." and recasts the spell?
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: You should trigger off of spelltags
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oryn Tech: for tinyfugue?
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: for anything. 
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oryn Tech: ok
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: and it's also better and neater to keep things separate and just call a /load path/to/file from your .tfrc 
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oryn Tech: that part I know :)
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: anyone have any nifty spellup plugins.  I had a really good one but deleted my old MUSH client
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: Let me rephrase that: A spellup plugin that spellup's other people
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: how do i make a stay-online trigger in mush
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: as in, what to trigger on and what to do
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: anyone want to suggest why the zmud %pop command doesn't work?
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: Anyone know of a good spellup other plugin for MUSH?
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: are there any auto-hunt hooks for tinyfugue?
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: zmud's random adding of non-existent characters into scripts isn't fun
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tikuranari Tech: Hmm.. I want to change my client or spellups settings when entering aard with my alt. Like, his spellups load when I log in with him, and my spellups load when I enter aard with Tiku. Any help?
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tikuranari Tech: Please?
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: i don't quite understand the different types of variables in mush and lua
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: what's the easiest way to loop through all the items in my inventory and perform some action on them, like id?
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: to get the id numbers
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: leisurely
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: the goal is to get the id numbers, yes
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: ooooh, there's a invdata command
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: thanks for the help guys
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nejik Tech: I downloaded the mushclient apps for Aardwolf. I was wondering how would I get the little map on the main screen again.
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: the default mush plugins for aard are pretty horrible
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nejik Tech: So you are suggesting to remove the plugins?
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: i'd say....start from scratch and build small plugins yourself, you don't need most of what comes with the aard-mushclient
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: the only way to persist variables in mushclient lua is to build plugins right?
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: that way you can do anything you want, rather than try and undo stuff
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nejik Tech: Well it worked! Thanks!
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: is there any way to make mush's scrollback the same as zmud/cmud, with the split?
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Learn From Einstein Tech: there is difference in real price and normal price
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: can you gag stuff using mush?
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: yes, or you could use rope
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: just use triggers and    omit_from_output="y"
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Rope is better for hanging one's self.
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A single Wissie Tech: ahh thanks :)
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: mush is so much faster than z/cmud, why didnt i switch earlier
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: but zmud/cmud offers convenience features (?)
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: and telnet is faster than zmud/mush a metaphor such as assemmbly is faster than c ++
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: I have to say that this is definitely not true between CMud and Mush
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: for most people its so they don't need to rewrite their bot
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: mush is so much faster that my bot won't need as long of pauses between actions
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: i mean
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: mine doesn't
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ser Gregor freaks out, screaming "Oh My Bot!"
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: and that's with most of Aardwolf in the mapper
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: cmud was a slow piece of crap
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: "was" ?
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: opening and closing the app took an hour, and processing the prompt lagged everything
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: it's not slow at all for me
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: well, i moved onto mush
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: mush is awesome
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: not to mention cmud uses a fake db? A FAKE DB
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: where you can do ---- with
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: that's changing now, actually
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: the "db" it had was no better than it's lame hashmaps. i had to create my own scripts to abstract basic DB functionality like searching for stuff
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: so painful
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: again, this is changing now
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: changing now? you mean, since cmud started being made a few years ago?
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: and it'll be implemented....in another few years?
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: no, as in version 3.11, released a couple days ago
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: what happened in 3.11
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: in java: interfaces aside, so long as I reference super() in each subclass's constructor I can use the top level constructor  multiple levels in, right ?
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: the only redeeming factor of cmud are the ability to dock windows and lay out different windows
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: the DB is going through now what the mapper did when it was rewritten (and then in the 3.xx beta cycle, rewritten again)
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: yea habasi
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: thought so, thanks
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: easier to ask then write it and be wrong :)
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: 'this' in the parent would interpret to sub.sub.sub.sub. ad nauseum correct ?
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: an object is an object, so there's no way for 'this' to refer to different things
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dekkath Tech: Pro-Tip:  Download Live Mesh and share your system32 folder!!
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: how important is the fan on your power supply?
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: As in, if it stops working, will your computer stop working?
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: well, do you like your power supply overheating and croaking?
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: well if your power supply overheats, i wouldn't be too far of a stretch to fry something
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Not very unless you want your power supply to melt on the inside.
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: mobo, cpu...
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: Yeah, the CPU could fry easily
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: Very.  It cools the CPU from overheating and could potentially ruin it.
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: submerge it all in mineral oil and it won't matter much if the fan stops working 
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: well that was what the smell i was smelling was
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: heh
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: mineral oil?  Why not peanut oil?  It makes tasty fries.
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i've got it working again...but it was broken for a couple of days if things are running ok do you think i'm alrigth?
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: because mineral oil won't ruin your sensitivly delicate  silicon parts
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: hey if balaam wants to have a fry cooker pc tower let's let him
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: it died once already, i'd start saving pennies for a new PS because it'll probably die again
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: they dont play dead for nothin
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: think about it, if you keep dropping in frozen fries, it helps cool the machine.
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: it's not uncommon of power supplies to die really
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I bet curly fries work the best.
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: I'd rather get some dumplings up in there
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: then you can have fresh tasty fries as you mud
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: dumplings > fries
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: so the fan is making a ton of noise ( but keeping it cool....should i just replace the fan?
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Or oil it.
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: Is it a PC or a laptop?
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: pc
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: Are you comfortable opening up the computer and screwing around with it?
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: heh thats what i just finished doing to get the fan working again at all
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: didn't electrocute myself yet :)
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: let me put it this way
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: I new fan will cost more to ship than buy
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: so if i can find free shipping from amazon i'm golden :)
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: If the fan dies, or doesn't do its job, you can screw the CPU/the motherboard(In theory... your cpu would go first). That will cost you a new computer
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: sounds like i'm ordering a new fan :)
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: you're lucky nothing terrible has happened yet
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: yeah. Last time I replaced a fan was a few years ago though. Hopefully they haven't gotten way more complicated...
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: didn't seem like it would be...i opened upo power supply and pulled old fan completely out while tinkering 
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: seems like replacing wouldn't be much more complicated
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: I had a boss once who had a 10k board mounted on his CPU. he had the casing open and cooled it with one of those clippy fans
T1/r7/2009-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: don't do that :-p
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Helping a friend with MUSH scripting... does MUSH have a fall-through setting for triggers?
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: would disable work?
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: No, they want both triggers to fire on the same line.
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Hence fallthrough.
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Oladon:  There's a "Keep evaluating" toggle in the triggers.
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Nice, thanks Balaam.
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: does anyone here use FeedDemon?
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: never heard of it
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: it's an RSS reader
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: never really saw the point of rss tbh
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: !!!
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: what? if i want the news, i'll go look at it
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: RSS feeds do just that and more
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: My problem with RSS feeds: At some point reading interesting blogs became a chore
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: my FeedDemon stopped synchronizing and i was just wondering why
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: my problem with other peoples' blogs is that i'm just not that interested
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: When it becomes a chore, it's time to clean up your feeds
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: does anrank
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: m/t
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: lovely
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Anybody know of a plain ascii/text editor that can display colored text such as MUD output?
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: logviewer
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Cat
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon blinks innocently.
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Drtoki peers intently at Apprentice Oladon.
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: cat is my favourite editor
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon winks at Seltsimees Dagnir.
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Thanks, I'll check those out
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if i try to use my cat as an editor he'll growl and lash out with his claws
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: vim's all colorful
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: either that, or turn around and ignore me
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: You just didn't compile him right, Farkyss.
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasdeja Tech: +1 for vim
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Vim--
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: 4 legs a tail and a head, how else are cats compiled?
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: Vim++
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nano is for teh l33t
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Emacs++
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: vi?
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: Ed
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: http://philosecurity.org/2009/03/23/pirates-and-ninjas-emacs-or-vi
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emir Icebergovich Tech: electric power is the shit, you all can't do a squat without us!
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: vim = vi, Farkyss
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: but better
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: vim = vi improved
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i don't know, i'm just spouting random editor names
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasdeja Tech: vim != vi (pedantic)
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: I'm a ninja and I use emacs.
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: notepad
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: joe
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasdeja Tech: i edit everything with a collection of memorized sed / awk scripts
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: I'm old school, I have a stack of index cards and a hole punch
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: I use a butterfly
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: I memorize everything.
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: Well, yeah.. you'd have to using emacs
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: A true quote from the comments of that page: "Everyone!&s favorite editor is the one they used at their last job."
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: not sure if this has been convered before. does MUSHclient or zMud work in Windows 7 Professional?
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rau Tech: zmud works the same as it does in vista
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: running zmud on windows 7
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: read the tech board
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: ok, thanks :)
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: nods :) I should 
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, both will work...windows 7 also includes...yeah, read danj's post on tech ;-)
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nah, read mine
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: thanks :)
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, they'll both run that way
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: thanks guys :)
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: and Windows 7 would work perfectly fine on a Netbook, yes?
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir shrugs helplessly.
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Take the first part of that sentence...
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: And evaluate the likelihood based on past experience.
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon looks around and whistles innocently.
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that may depend on the netbook...dunno about atom and w7 offhand
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: Lenovo S10E?
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: if you have enough memory it might
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd suggest only using it on a netbook that ships with it
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or that shipped with vista
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: ah, okay :) thanks guys
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: it's faster than vista anyway
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: even faster than xp with enough mem
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: faster than xp on my machine
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: been using it for half an year and i really can't say much bad aboot it
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: nice :)
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: some file rights can be a little tricky, but it's mostly the software that doesn't take it into account. there are workarounds tho
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: nah my netbook is really only used for mudding.
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: then install debian with tf on it. would be the fastest
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also more screen space ;)
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no x
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What's the alt code for a thick dot hanging in thin air?
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hawkings Tech: anybody done a mysql/sqlite equipment database with hooks into mush?
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: anyone know why pictures aren't loading in FeedDemon?
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: any mushclient users have alias set up for spellup others?
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: I use Bast's spellup script (modified Nick Gammon's script I believe) http://code.google.com/p/bastmush/
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: I use CMUD, and I was running two sessions at once. For some reason, every two-three minutes about, I get a strange (chiming type) noise and I don't know why. I no longer have two sessions running, and I still get the noise.
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: I've restarted Cmud twice and restarted my computer as well.
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: any ideas?
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Multiplaying is bad, mmkay!
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: What other programs are you running? I'm guessing you've already scoured all available options/preferences; that would be my first guess. I'm personally not familiar with CMUD :P
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: Only CMUD, and Ive checked out preferences as best as possible, but a friend of mine isntalled some nifty wifty plugins.
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: It's my guess that the plugins are responsible ... try running it without the plugins?
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: What version windows?  
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: Vista; and I think I'll wait to try to run without the plugins (I break clients very easily.)
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: That is why.  Vista sucks.
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: Be that as it may, it didn't do this before today
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien cues the 'Switch to Linux' banner from stage left .... unfurl, dammit!
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: Lol.
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: hey how do i select my default soundcard for playback in ALSA if i have 2?
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i can't seem to get sound :/
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: it's a shame that invdata only shows wear positions for armor if they're actually being worn :(
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: is there an easy way to gather the wear position for a set of inventory items, or do i need to loop through invdata and id everything individually?
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: is there a way to figure out an item's wear position that's easier than picking it up from the id?
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: wearable?
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: wearable is useless :(
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: if you're wearing it, the eqdata command will show you what it is
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wearable is highly useful...just not for this question
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: i don't want to write multi-line captures with delays in between id's for hundreds of items
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ramier growls.
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't have to
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: then how do i do it?
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're that clueless about your equipment, then I dunno what to tell you
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: if you want to know what it is while it's in inventory, the invdetails command or whatever it is that does the invdata equivalent of identify/lore will show you
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wear location barely registers on the scale of what you need to know about the item
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: why? i want to know what i have for earrings at lvl 151
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: how is that useless
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you have hundreds of 151 items that sound like they might go on your ears?
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I find that *highly* unlikely
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: no, but i want to type "ideq ears 151" and have it tell me exactly what they are
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: rather than just doing "ideq 151" and figure it out every time
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: every time?
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what the hell are you doing?
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: comparing my eq progression....
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: actually *think* before you do things, instead of repeatedly doing the same thing over & over
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: he essentially wants iwuvaard in alias form
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: good, if you're comparing your eq progression, then you already have the tools you need
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'll need to perform idents on items to do any comparison of eq progression...otherwise you're only comparing 1/2 the info
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: yes, back in zmud. when i hardcoded my eq database. now i want to create it on the fly, how is that impossible to grasp
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: ok
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: this has nothing at all to do with wear location
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not impossible to grasp that...you're just being clueless about it
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I want the ident info from my equipment...you mean I need to ident it?!?!
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Learn From Einstein Tech: ok ramier, i believe u need a loop to search all items in all containers in your inventory for level 151 items, then loop for each one use invdetails on them
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you need to do it once, not "every time"
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Learn From Einstein Tech: it is easy to do that client side and i have
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: yea, i know, i was hoping there was something easier, such as the reason why invdata was created
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: don't need ident.  need invdetails and the other onslaught of new commands
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Learn From Einstein Tech: yes invdata was CREATED to make it easy for you to make such scripts
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Learn From Einstein Tech: do you expect to be spoonfed every feature you wish for
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: i expect that if invdata exists, there might be something similar which might give the wear position
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: like invdetails!
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: invdata will show -1 for wearlocation because you're not wearing it :p eqdata will show the correct wear location
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: i wanted invdetails. thanks sikai
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Learn From Einstein Tech: invdetails has output {invheader}212807371|60|Armor|300|3|neck|magic, held, v3||||2||
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sikai nods at Ramier.
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: does anyone here use FeedDemon?
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: i wanted such a command so i didn't have to perform "id 12356532" and then multi-line capture the wear position
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: invdetails has been mentioned multiple times in this thread...
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: heh, 'thread'
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: oh, whoops, my bad, i always thought it was invdata
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ramier pouts. 
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: invdetails is still multiple lines...
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but it's tagged
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: but it has tags
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: super easy to cap
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: nobody uses FeedDemon?  i can't find any help for this online :(O
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but there's plenty of scripts already set up to parse ident/lore/obj read output
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: i don't want to trigger to start and end on +-----------------------------------------------------------------+
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and scripts already set up that put that all into databases, and compare to iwuvaard's database
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sikai Tech: that wouldn't quite work anyway because there's multiple lines like that within ident
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Learn From Einstein Tech: abelinc how do u deal with conversion of the raw color output of obj names invdata
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: that's how i did it back in zmud....start when i see +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ and end when i see the 2 after it
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: it was messy
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's easy enough to replace, einstein
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: end when you see a space
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Learn From Einstein Tech: cmud doesn't like variables to have values with in them
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's not always 3 of those lines
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Learn From Einstein Tech: an @ in them i mean
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Learn From Einstein Tech: so i can't store any names in cmud vars
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: change it before making it a var
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm sure z/cmud have sub functions
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: use mush! :)
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Learn From Einstein Tech: yeah still trying to make those work 
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so something on the order of replace @Y with whatever zmud internally uses for teh @Y color code...or you can just wait somewhere between a week and a month for it to be changed
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: whether that'd be a sub, replace, or strreplace, dunno what cmud would call it
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Learn From Einstein Tech: ah ok i figured out sub.. thx.. the syntax is pretty awkward
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: test
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: aaa
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: b
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micoaya Tech: Whats wrong with this? #if {$hours=11}{#var $ampm am}
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: needs ==
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micoaya Tech: Where?
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: $hours == 11
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micoaya Tech: ty =)
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: what client/language is that
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: zscript
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: i thought zscript used as its sigil
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micoaya Tech: Bah, Im using jscript =P
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: "at"
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: @@@ @@w
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, looks like a half-breed...people trying to use different languages with z/cmud :P
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: blech, i moved some plugins to some different folders and all i see now is a wall of orange errors
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: It wants to wish you a happy halloween
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erasmo Tech: hello?? :>
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: hi
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: how you doing
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: hi
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erasmo Tech: Ive been better :p
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: ah sad to hear that
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasdeja Tech: (his cat ate his laptop charger)
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erasmo Tech: I moved MUSHclient to my old Win2K machine, and it's not showing me status bars and stuff like it was on my vista one
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erasmo Tech: Shut up Kasdeja :p
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: No personal attacks please
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erasmo Tech: He's my neighbor.
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erasmo Tech: Just ignore him :p
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Doesn't matter :)  The rules don't care.
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: starling, please don't use profanity in tells
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Help ignore, VampireDude, if you don't like it.
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: yes but if the person who is the target of the personal attack doesnt care then it doesnt matter if you break that rule, does it ?
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: starling, so if i don't like your abuse, i should use the ignore button?
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: instead of you abiding by the rules ?
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It does matter, actually, because it sets a poor example to others.
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: but you have to be respectable for others to take example of you
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saric Tech: can't we all just get along? =(
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erasmo Tech: And this is hardly the proper forum for this conversation, now back to my question which pertains to the forum.
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Yes, take it to debate channel please.
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: VD The first step in eliminating harassment is to IGNORE the harasser, yes
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: jilted, no, the first step is to tell them to stop
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: then ignore
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: which i just did, let's help erasmo hook up a pikaqchu to his laptop
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erasmo Tech: heh
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erasmo Tech: Yeah, i mean when i downloaded it and opened up mushclient on my vista machine it all ran up automatically. now it's like plain old mushclient
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: did you move the world file over as well?
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: the one that had all your settings/triggers/etc?
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erasmo Tech: THe battery is dead on it. It seemed to have a worldfile preloaded when I downloaded it the last time.
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erasmo Tech: isnt there a generic worldfile that i can download?
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erasmo Tech: where I can add the triggers/macros afterword.
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erasmo Tech: I didnt even program the map functions nor the fancy status bars for mana, etc. It seemed to have all been preloaded.
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: they wouldnt have been stored with the .exe file, theres another file you'd need with it
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: either an .mcl or a scripts file
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: check the website
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: does anyone have suggestions on how to list files under a directory in windows?
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: in lua
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dir?
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: i was hoping for a nice premade script :D
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'd probably depend on the lua implementation
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ramier pouts. 
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lua embedded within a MUD client would likely be different than lua running in the lua interpreter shell
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasdeja Tech: not in tintin++ :)
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tintin++ is probably using a syscall to the lua interpreter, rather than it being embedded
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: That it is.
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tt and tf also give direct access to normal system commands, so i can just ls a directory
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: changing a slight config in mush takes hours to fix the consequences
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: a delicate house of cards that come tumbling down
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: what does it mean when ' Exonroot brings life back to the area. ' 
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: is that like a bug?
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: probably a repop message
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: probably belongs on q&a
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: no, the repop message was after that
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasdeja Tech: No, c summon life
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasdeja Tech: ranger spell makes an area repop
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: no, thats the player exonroot exercising his shaman skill to repop an area
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: oh wow.
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ok thanks flat
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Quick preface: I've just switched over to MUSHClient. Trying to figure out why anything shorter than three word commands are stripped from my command history.
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Any ideas? It's really annoying to have to type things like 'c 26' over and over again when I should be able to just up-arrow and use it from my command history.
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: why not just bind a macro to it?
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Not really the point. Bad example. I just don't want those shorter commands stripped/filtered from my command history.
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: And I'm sure it's some silly option I'm not able to find that is filtering it out.
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: sorry don't use mush
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Actually, it's not just shorter things...
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: tt++ ftw
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Now that I notice. All the things I type to 'tech' channel are stripped.
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: zmud 5.55
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: I was a zMUD guy, but just switched to Windows 7 x64. Couldn't get zMUD running.
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gnidlohnad is agreeing with that Chicomecoatl person again...
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Ask Danj about that, I believe he solved that problem.
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Or post to tech board.
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Windows7 is extra (6 gig) crappy bloated and as a bonus is unfriendly to zmud ... [waits for the new Mac adverts to inform tv viewers what is wrong with Windows7]
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Hmm, apparently leaving command echo on fixes the problem.
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Looks like a MUSHclient bug, reported by some other folks.
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liathum Tech: Anyone know anything about the available sockets for Intel/AMD processors?
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zannugawa Tech: If someone has both a ps3 and an xbox360, please send me a tell.
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: least favorite feature of cmud: macros not working when settings window is open.
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: is there a way to test trigger/alias matches in mush, so i can tell if they're working?
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not A Real Evee Tech: use echo
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: echo
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: o
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game -> test trigger as well ;-)
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: ok, thanks :)
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but yeah, Aard's echo is extremely useful for it
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: or you could use the simulated output with ctrl-shift-F12
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's game -> test trigger, which I said :P
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Ah, missed that.
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: is there a way to call a function within a plugin directly, from the commandline? i'm trying but it keep tells me it can't find the "global" function
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: make an alias to call various functions.
T1/r7/2009-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: i've been doing that...it's a lot of work to test :(
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: Looking for spellup other plugin for MUSH, /tell me if you know where I can get one.
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: bast spellup plugin will spellup others
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micoaya Tech: Deori the spellup command is available to you, Have you tried it? Help spellup
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: Micoaya, of course I have, I'm looking for spellup 'other'
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moshu Tech: thx for the spellup command tip that rocks=) even though  i have nothing to with it=)
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: hey guys I have a question... assuming both machines are connected via HDMI, which is better for DVD playback, PS3 or 360?
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: anyone have some basic triggers and such for kildclient?
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Ooh, I used KildClient one time
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: like spell failed autorecast?
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Don't have any left pre-made, but can help you get some working
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: yeah i'm trying to tweak my client on ubuntu on my 10" nettop 
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: The nice thing about Kild is that it uses perl for its scripting language
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: what is the stack character in kild?
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: You would ask that... probably ;
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: haha tried that
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: Oladon, I'd love that info too
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Hrm... I seem to remember reading it in the Kild documentation before, hold on
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: I'm trying to migrate much of my stuff over to open-source
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: ok fixed that. thnx
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: I've gotta recommend TinyFugue, btw
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: it was percent semi-colon so i changed it to just semicolon
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: is it gui?
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Mainly because there's more support for it and (last time I checked) KildClient isn't as stable
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: No, there's no GUI
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: yeah i like kild because it has a basic gui. makes it easier for me to keep track
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Alright. So what trigger do you want to make first?
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon nods at Drunk'ing Abel.
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: and i'm pretty lost on otherwise
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: autorecast. i had one for zmud
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Alright. Go into the World Editor and click on Triggers
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lacrimosa Tech: I could see that as being useful in the case of 
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Once you're there, click "Add" and you'll get a box for the pattern, name of trigger, and action
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: yeah i can make triggers and aliases but i have issue with the recast arguement to label the name of the spell
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Alright. So... what do you have as your trigger pattern right now?
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: i have it as {You lost your concentration while trying to cast %1}
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon peers around herself intently.
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Ahhh
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: and a bunch of addkey arguements
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: That explains it :P
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: You want:
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: ^You lost your concentration while trying to cast ([a-z ]+)\.$
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: ok now how do i make it pull the arguement and auto cast that spell
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: That pulls the argument already -- now you go to the action part
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: 'You do not know a '([a-z ]+)' spell.' I really need to put a guard in there...
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Usher, make sure you escape those single quotes
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Abel, now go to the action part and add (iirc) $world->send("cast $1")
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: because it's dependant on addkey and if in zmud
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: What's addkey?
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: And what are you checking with if?
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: a zmud option
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: ...
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: I kindof figured that... what does it do?
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: #IF (%db( pellupvar, lastcast)= "self") {cast self '%db(pellupvar, spellname)'}
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Ah
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: i'll have to send you the full script in a tell
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Yeah, do that
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: oladon are you there?
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: ok, I found the spellup other plugin and d/l'd all necessary .lua files, after I request the spells, it just doesn't cast, any suggestions?
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: actually i get Run-time error upon starting it
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I need to use curl to submit form data so I can log in automatically to a wireless network... but curl --data-encode fieldname=fieldval doesn't seem to work..
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: --data-urlencode maybe?
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasdeja Tech: =h 10
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Will try again... also, maybe I'm misunderstanding the structure of the login form.
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: hrmmm
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: How do I change the font in MUSH?
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: under the menu in alt-5
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Anyone got good karaoke software to recommend? I'm thinking of hacking performous to play videos insted of displaying only images.
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitriel Tech: Is it possible to convert zmud triggers/aliases/etc and import them into mush client?
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: I'd pay lots of TPs for one of you to hack that account and freeze it for me
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: . o O (  ) Habasi runs away in utter terror!
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: abelinc, you know of any tinyfugue auto-treat-wounds scripts?
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on what all you're looking for...as an emergency, /def -t'You sure are BLEEDING!' bleeding = do healing stuff here
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: im looking for an auto treat wounds script for after combats to go back to health
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're looking for a "keep doing it until I'm fully healed, then use the variables from my HP graph script
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh god, no - http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/30/bing_video/
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: that's not amusing at all
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no, it's creepy
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: thats the tech equivalent of 'jesus camp'
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: how come microsoft commercials are always so bad/weird/creepy?
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasdeja Tech: Heh. I'm suddenly reminded of the Windows 7 "how to hold a launch party" videos.
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: thanks, i'm having flashbacks now
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: Christ. That was awful
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasdeja Tech: indeed, those were pretty painful.
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasdeja Tech: I'll admit I watched them, but in the way that you slow down to look at a car accident
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: there is one from back in the day when windows 98 was coming out with two of the people from friends. It was just as bad if not worse
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: all ms ads have been trainwrecks
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: they'll never get a clue
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macuiltotec Tech: so i just downloaded cmud to try it and crazy things are showing up like {chan ch=ftalk}(Friend): ...how do i get the chan ch=talk to go away? 
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasdeja Tech: tags off
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macuiltotec Tech: thats what i was looking for, figured there was a toggle just coudlnt' figure it out
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macuiltotec Tech: appriciate it :)
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasdeja Tech: np :)
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: if i have some images i want to show that are in a mysql DB would it be pheasable to <img> them into a page and make the page members only if i did not want someone who was a non member to see them, or would there be another way?
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: heh, i won't ever be using a free wifi hotspot after watching Watchdog
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: watchdog?
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: UK consumer affairs program
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: (tv program)
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i just proxy my stuff through ssh
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: just because people record everthing you do over a free wifi....
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: vpn apparently is the only way to be totally secure on public access wifi
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not the only way
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i just mentioned a way
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: still, kinda funny :-)
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so you guys just found out that unsecured wireless networks are unsecure?
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: thank god for tv
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i always new, but they showed just quite how easy it is
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: heh, i have ettercap installed on my laptop
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's fun
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: really it's a bit stupid people like BT and TMobile offering widespread open access without having vpn or similar software as a pre-requisite for use
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: guys, is there any way to tell who the owner of a yahoo address is?
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: wow its already this late
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: quick question is there an easy way to remove the binding of enter from 1 and recall from 3 of the numpad...loving that new numpad navigation but not loving the eaccidental entering
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: zmud ?
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: mush sorry
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: should have made that clear :)
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: you can override them in zmud, either to something else or null. no reason you shouldn't be able to in mush
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: just have to find them, likely in mush's equivalent to to the 'system' folder/dir/whatever
T1/r7/2009-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: CTRL-SHIFT-8 will get you to the window.  That will put you in the Triggers section, there should be a keypad item in the list on the left.
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: anyone had trouble with telnet options in MUSH?
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: coming off AFK reports still AFK till next status request
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: despite all of zuggs flaws, i still use zmud instead of mush, so can't help you
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: anyoen aroud?
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Nobody here! :P
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon . o O ( Better to just ask the questiom )
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon . o O ( Or the question. Whichever one. )
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: whats the best program to scan and install missing drivers?
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Erm... what OS?
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: ?
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: operating system
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: so windows :)
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: that's an important factor
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: It's probably Vista and doesn't have an automatic update program?
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: no I need something to scan over all my drives and install the missing ones
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: I knwo there is a program for it...just cant remember the name
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Drives? Like... HDD?
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: www.radarsync.com/vista/ and www.softwarepatch.com/windows-vista-drivers/windows-vista-drivers.html 
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: like newer network drivers,missing grafic card drives,stuff like this
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: drives != drivers
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: just.. you know.. fyi
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon snickers with Drtoki about their shared secret.
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rahjak Tech: anyone here?
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emir Icebergovich Tech: is there any electrician here?
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon . o O ( It's best to just ask the question(s) )
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rahjak Tech: i need help with mushclient :-|
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rahjak Tech: each time i try to connect i get msg 'unable to resolve host name for "aardmud.org", code = 11001 (host not found)
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: try the ip address?
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Which client are you using?
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: will tell you whether its a dns issue or not
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rahjak Tech: mushclient...just downloaded it now
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rahjak Tech: ok wait i clicked quick connect and it only says port nr 4000...world name and ip are blank
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rahjak Tech: cn anyone help me im a bit clueless here...need the world name and ip
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: for Aardwolf?
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: help ip.
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: don't you have to be signed on to send a tech message?
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: That's what I was thinking.
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: I was feeling a bit clueless
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rahjak Tech: ok wierd connection refused...what cn cause that?
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: maybe aard won't take two connection from one IP
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: It will.
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it'll moan about multiplaying tho
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Or there wouldn't be the laws against multiplaying in the first place :)
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: try port 23
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: my kid and I once connected from the same IP
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rahjak Tech: ok i got it working i hope
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulverio Tech: how can i re-bind the keys in MUSHclient?
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Using Accelerators.  Check it out in the script functions page.
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulverio Tech: ty.
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/function.php?name=Accelerator  <-- there we go.
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulverio Tech: ths a lot.
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: what does ' phenolithic' mean ?
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: in the context of ' phenolithic polymer ' ?
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pmage Tech: anyone got a link to MS office system requirements? i cant find it anywhere
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: not me... no, i dont use windos
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Achelon Tech: how do i get mushclient to stop truncating words and carry it instead to the next line?
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: Game->Configure->Output, check wrap output
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Achelon Tech: thanks!
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulverio Tech: how can i see the connection status - ping and etc...?
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Open up cmd.exe, and type "ping aardmud.com"?
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulverio Tech: hm.
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulverio Tech: i have 45 - 150 ms...is that good?because i have some lags...
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: . o O (  ) Habasi bots in Assembly.
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: rimso's site is down, does anyone know if there was any special procs to importing their scripts, or just c&p to command line ?
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: huh what now?
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: what client?  For some strange reason, nobody uses the same method
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: the thing is it varies by script writer, zmud has multiple ways to import scripts. so was aimed at anyone who's DLed scripts from crimson
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: americans
T1/r7/2009-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: miss
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keeg Tech: is there something i have to do to enable the bigmap window in the aardwolf mushclient?
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andacavar Tech: It should be enabled automatically, it may be minimized somewhere
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: woo, finally got my wifi pickup going with ndiswrapper =D a good day it is
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Gregor: still on Ubuntu?
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: You could say still, I haven't used it properly for over 6 months due to not having internet there
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: So, I'm just BACK on ubuntu ;;)
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: I've spent so long trying to get it to work....turns out I actually solved the problem last week but for some very strange reason it wasn't detecting my wifi pickup in one of the USB ports
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Interesting.
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Nods, it was weird, soon as I transferred it from the built in USB ports to one that I'd installed with a card it worked like a dream
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: so your motherboard is h4x.
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: This tower has been thrown one too many times into a wall, its a little edgy.
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: its also caught fire twice
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: I'm totally amazed it even works.
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Time for a celebratory coffee and cigarette I think
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: who had the runto plugin for MUSHCLIENT?
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: what plugin is this? what does it do?
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: replaces runto and shortens them based on portals
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: replaces runto and shortens them based on portals fly and pass
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: my modem shows provisional rates of 11200 down and 2200 up,,, anyone can explain this...
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: http://www.speedtest.net/result/609263460.png
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: anyone in this country would die for those speeds, ozzy
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i aint complaining... just im getting down rates over twice what im paying for
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: shhh! they might cap it!
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Provisioned Rate  11200 kbps  <--- aint that what my modem is "capped" at?
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: why is the resurrect command disabled?
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: avg 9's really starting to tick me off.
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: avg9 is an improvement on 8.5 on the grounds that it -sometimes- even picks up viruses
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Anyone know what variable in tintin++ to set when my input doesn't echo?
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasdeja Tech: #config echo?
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Stranglely enough, though, the #commands appear.
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: #config {command echo} {off}
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: #config {command echo} {off}reply Sutr
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: patial mis
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: OK, it's echo command ... but it's ON.
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Still doesn't work, though.
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasdeja Tech: #run shell /bin/bash
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasdeja Tech: reset, exit
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasdeja Tech: Might be a terminal issue.
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I don't know ...
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: The shell displays fine.
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Ah ... it seems it was an MCCP reset issue.
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Wonder if I should report a bug.
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Though it's in an older version ...
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neleus Tech: how do you log in to the bugtracker as anonymous?
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: not sure if you can "log in" anonymous, but you can just browse the page without logging in
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neleus Tech: when I go to aardwolf.com/bugz it won't let me go anywhere til logged in, what am I doing wrong?
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: try this:  http://aardmud.org:443/bugz/main_page.php
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: then click on view issues
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neleus Tech: thanks, that did it!
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yay, vidolan bugfixes for windows 6
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i mean 7
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulverio Tech: cant understand what i'd must to do with exits in zmud automap to draw a rooms.
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ordov Tech: can anybody help me with a scrolling issue I'm having with my client?
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: what client, and what's your question?
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ordov Tech: mudwalker...for some reason whenever the page scrolls, it goes normally at first, but then scrolls back up just a tiny bit: enough to cut off the last line so I can't see my hp/mn/mv/qt/tnl bar
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: dunno, never heard of that one.  Is there an option for VT102 or something?  Might need to turn those off.
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ordov Tech: umm...what's what?
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: it's a system of control codes to determine what to do on-screen--scrolling, for example
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ordov Tech: hmm...I'm not sure, I could look around and see if I find anything that looks like that
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ordov Tech: or is there maybe just another client that will work on a mac?
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: no idea.  I don't use macs either.
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: best bet for most people on Macs is running MUSHclient under parallels/fusion/darwine/etc
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ordov Tech: thanks, I'll look into that
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're a geeky person on a Mac, then you can natively run tinyfugue or tintin++
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasdeja Tech: tt++ should compile
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulverio Tech: you can try tintin
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasdeja Tech: +1 for tintin (tt++)
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but most Mac-heads won't do well with tintin or tinyfugue
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ordov Tech: kind of just a tech-stupid person running a mac
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulverio Tech: yeah )
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Mac and Apple products are aimed at those with business accounts and money to spend -- Mac is meant for developing profitable games not playing games
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You pat Xyliz on her head.
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: anyone with a jail broken iphone have a reccomended cydia theme?
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: FUCKING AVG ACTING LIKE FUCKING SPYWARE
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: UPGRADE NOW!
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: NO!
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: lolwat
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: upgrade popups ever 30 mins or so
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and easy on the language :-)
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: Apparently Starling doesn't patrol this channel
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: oh, Abelinc's got her back
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tech is less anal than other channels because people are usually emotional when faced with tech issues, but it is flagged nocurse
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Heh, somebody called the cops.  Better late than never:  No cursing please. :P
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Drtoki gasps as she realizes what Starling did.
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: THERE SHE IS!
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: Oh no!, Its the aardwolf police!
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I don't know about AVG being spyware, but AIM was opening a ton of IE windows on me last night for god only knows what reason.  I don't even use IE, but it was opening them all the same.  Stupid AOL.
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: maybe its a new virus that those antivirus cant detect yet
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xeyer Tech: Can anyone assist me in setting up some form of keystroke logging on ubuntu 9.04?
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: easy way to do it would be to put the script command into the login
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but better would be to not give logins to people you don't trust...or to restrict those logins to commands that you don't mind them using
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xeyer Tech: ok....lets assume im still new to linux here and try talking to me like a retard :P
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: baiting people into giving you info isn't usually a good way to go
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xeyer Tech: not baiting.....
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xeyer Tech: long story short
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xeyer Tech: my ex is here learning how to be a parent, and I think she has been pulling some STUPID shit on my computer
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xeyer Tech: so I would like to know what shes doing and where shes going when im not in the room
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasdeja Tech: Squid
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, squid will show web stuff, without keylogging
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xeyer Tech: ok, thats a good start
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xeyer Tech: ive been hunting all over the place
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: squid is a web proxy, so you set up the web browser on the computer to use the proxy...so when someone goes to a website, it asks squid for the web page, then squid gets it and gives it to the browser...and logs the request
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasdeja Tech: you want a transparent proxy
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xeyer Tech: and I saw that script thing you mentioned as well, just not sure how to set that up
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lowland Tech: does anyone know how to macro the keypad in tintin?
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: #help macro
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lowland Tech: i know how to macro the keypad wont macro though
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lowland Tech: like it will macro the numbers but its not confined to the keypad numbers if i do that i cant use a number at all
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your terminal needs to be sending separate sequences for numpad and the numbers at the top of the keyboard
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's not something tt++ has control over, it's a function of the terminal
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lowland Tech: do you know how i can do that in xterm?
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can also play with using numlock or not
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lowland Tech: ooo figured it out, thanks for your help.
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seregil Tech: does anyone have time to help me with a mushclient question
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: time yes ability no
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: time no ability yes.
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go ahead and ask the Q
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: .          Jilted wuv Blessed Balaam. Aww, how coot.
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seregil Tech: ok I have to give just slight history here to explain.  Got a newlap.  I'm not familiar with the mouse pad.  When I was setting up my windows like stats, big, map, whatever on my page and resizing them, I managed to mess up with that mouse and I got my stats window too high up.  I can't see the red x or anything.  And I can't get it back down even with my real mouse.  And now I have vista and not xp and I don't know if thats the problem.  I fixed the same mistake before on my desktop but I can't do it now
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, that's easy
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you didn't do it...it ships that way
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: you can tile your windows i think to get them where you can grab them all
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: in the window menu
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You ack at Cruella de Purr!
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: or dont as it seems abe will mess his pants if you do
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: typing "initaard" puts the windows at sizes and positions appropriate for your resolution
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then to move stats, right-click the tab for it and select move...then use arrow key to move it down to where you can grab the titlebar
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cain killd Abelinc only messes his pants when looking at Purr :-)
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cain killd Abelinc wipes off the sticky stuff
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: well then i'm sorry for looking the way i do
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seregil Tech: thanks!  I'm going to try this.  I may need to ask a question more to two.  My husband had to be a butt right then and demand I get him a drink, because he always gets me one when I ask and I bitched all the way in there telling him you all were helping me fix the window I've been complaining about for a week!
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, too bad kitchen social is curse only :P
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seregil Tech: Ok, still having problems.  I'm just having problems with this mouse maybe.  I right click stats, select move, with the arrow keys on what spot on the box do I use and what do I do with them?  I know I sound like an idiot but this mouse and I've had a very tough time lately.
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just press the down arrow on your keyboard
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: after you do the right-click and say move
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seregil Tech: that's it, thank you so much!
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seregil Tech: Thanks, I got it perfect now, for me anyway.  Thanks again!
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You clap at his performance.
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siboy Tech: how can I turn off {stats} at the bottom of the screen?
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neleus Tech: tags off
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siboy Tech: Thanks
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: ... On mush, whats the way to specify the first matched string in a regex?
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: you switched to MUSH, Usher?
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: Eh. I installed win7 and don't have access to my linux partition for another few hours
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: so far I miss tt++ :)
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: Good, you're still sane  :)
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: On a related note, if anyone knows how to mount ext3 partitions from win7...
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasdeja Tech: GL with that. :)
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: some say http://www.fs-driver.org/download.html works if you change compatibility to vista
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: haven't tried myself
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: tried it, it find the partition but windows keeps telling me I'll have to format it
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: for ext2 maybe
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: not ext3
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: which is disconcerting... I might have to restart for it to kick in though, and if i did that my dl would stop
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: it reads ext3 fine on other windows
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: just doesn't unmount them correctly
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: does it screw up the partition, or just throw an error out?
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: no screwups here. knock knock
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: WHO'S THERE?!
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: postman
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: I'll try it on restart. I backed up everything before I resized that partition, so I can't hurt too much 
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: postman who?!
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: does win7 still rely on restarting to solve problems?
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: I've been staving off a restart for an update and I just installed the bloody thing. So I'd say yes
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: It is one of those annoying dialogs that doesn't give you an option to restart whenever you feel like
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: can't wait to try win 7, xp is nice but is starting to show it's age
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: I admit win7 looks nice in the commercials.. but then again commercials can make anything look nice!
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: well it's what vista should have been, kinda like xp sp2 and win 98
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: Win7 actually looks very nice on my machine, which is older. But, I mean, it still might end up a PITA
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: To get rid of the forced restart dialogs, at least in xp, start > run > net stop "automatic updates"
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: i just selected manual updates
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: or rather download, but let me install
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Meh, whatever floats your boat.
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: well... disabling updates isn't that great of an idea either
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: That doesn't disable updates.
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: disabling automatic updates to windows is an excellent idea if you care about stability
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGXK4jKN_jY This makes me feel all warm and fuzzy. (Video on Google maps GPS for android devices)
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quiet Nuala Tech: Anyone know of a good spellup script for zmud 7.21 - I've been away a while and I'm pretty sure mine is broken :)?
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quiet Nuala Tech: I was using LG
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siboy Tech: is there any MCCP for Gmud client?
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: Do any of you cmud experts see anything wrong with this #ALIAS lgs_sp_lvlfound {lgs_message Level Found->%ansi(bold,white)@lgs_sp_curlevel;lgs_sp_findself}
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: The complete lack of spacing and indentation count?
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Drtoki falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: for the tick counter, you need a trigger to match on --> TICK <--, which adds one to a variable
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i use zmud tick timer with a trigger that syncs the timer on every tick
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: Any ideas why '{affoff}%1' matchs '{affoff}65' with %1='{65' as opposed to %1='65' in wintin++? It works in tt++ like you'd expect
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emir Icebergovich Tech: any CMUD users here that are familliar with #THREAD?
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: I avoid it like the plague
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: the thread command, I mean
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emir Icebergovich Tech: can you put a whole class in a #THREAD? or just inside an alias e.g.
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: classes are just file folders for your script.  They themselves don't do anything
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: that said, dunno if you can use thread the way you'd use t+ and t-
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: anyone use wintin++?
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: anyone use wintin++?
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: sorry about doing that twice...
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: do commas, and forward slashes require the tilde in front of them in cmud?
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: depends on what you're doing
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: for example, the comma is not a special wildcard character for trigger patterns (unless you're doing something complex in regex?), so no need to quote it there.  However, commas separate function arguments so if you aren't surrounding it in double-quotes then you need to quote it
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: I'm referring to trigger pattern, using stat monitor to update a graphical prompt
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: and lots of forward slashes, and commas in it
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: then in that case, don't need to escape those
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: thanks :0
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Houdini often escaped handcuffs using backslashes.
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: in fact, the only thing you need to escape in that line is the curly braces
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: Thanks :0 
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: in cmud if i do <font wingdings>blagh</font> it works, but how would i do say wingdings 2
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: did you try quotes?
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: ya
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: try without the space, ie, wingdings2?
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: dont work
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: which kind of quotes did you try?
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: right now i have it set as "<font "wingdings 2">%-1</font>"
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: the doubles-in-doubles might be parsing weirdly.  Try replacing the innies with the single quotes
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: no i dont have that i put that to try to get it to show, cmud is parsing it for me as i talk and im not likeing it
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: its actually parsing what it want it to back into wingdings rather then wingdings 2
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: huh?
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: Hadar's trying to get CMud to correctly process the font MXP tag so that it will accept wingdings 2 instead of just wingdings
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: anyone know the temperature needed for water to become vapor?
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: kelvin?  celsius?  fahrenheit?
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: 100
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: 100 is the boiling point, yeah...
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: although it depends on pressure as well
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I would assume It would be slighly above freezing, otherwise we would have very dry air indeed.
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: water evaporates below the boiling point...
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: hmn, balaam good point.
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Wouldn't it be <font face = "wingdings"> </font>  ?
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: MXP is more or less HTML, isn't it?
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: it resembles a markup language a little...
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: cookar so what temperature do i need for it to evaporate?
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: the apparent problem was that he doesn't want to set it to wingdings, but wingdings 2
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: balaam was right as far as i recall
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: the wingdings 2 wasn't working for him
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: evaporation temperature is uhh dependent on altitude I thought
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: alright,  in a more practical sense, if i want to more quickly evaporate some water, is it best to heat the water, or to heat the surrounding air?
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i believe at any temp above dew point? something like that i'm not sure
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: cookar so what i need to find is the dew point?
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: nods i believe 100 is when water can no longer stay liquid at sea level...
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Try 'wingdings2' with no space as font name maybe?
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: that's the air pressure part.  The lower the air pressure, the lower the temperature.  In very cold, low pressure areas, water could boil at 1 degree celsius
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: hmn, then maybe just heating the water is best.
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: you do realize that was quite a while ago, right, Star?
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Oh, was it?  I must have not looked at the time when I checked -h
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: it should be better to heat the water, since it can disperse into the air more easily than trying to concentrate air into the water.
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: As for boiling point, the boiling point of a liquid is the temperature at which the vapor pressure is equal to the pressure above the liquid.
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: balaam, if i add salt to the water, it alters the boiling point, right?
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: yep
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: yes becomes 70 degrees
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: also lowers the freezing point.
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: it does?  I thought salt meant it took longer to boil?
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: It raises the boiling point.  Doesn't lwoer it.
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: adding salt to water does not drop the bp 30% 
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: so ultimately, heating the water is going to be the best bet, for increasing the rate of evporation?
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: from a practical standpoint.
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: probably easier then blowing hot dry air on the water... :P
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: or trying to reduce the air pressure
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: well i don't have a way to get hot , dry air... but i can blow or bubble it into the water well
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: urwin in terms of reducing the air pressure, how large of a reduction are we talking?
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: large enough that you can't do it on a stove or without specialized vacuum-inducing equipment
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: so like more than just an atm or too?
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: k, then thats definately out
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: heating the water it is, then i guess.
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: to make water boil at a lower-than-100-celsius temperature, you have to take it into aeroplane altitudes
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: what you really want to do is also make sure the surrounding air is not humid
T1/r7/2009-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: what are you trying to do, by the way?
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Technically, the correct answer to the original question is that water will 'become vapor' at all temperatures.  Only the rate of evaporation changes.  Even solid ice can, and does, sublime directly to vapor.
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: frozen water will not evaporate :)
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It will, actually.
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: sure it does
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: yes they do ie glacier :P
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: sublime != evaporate
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: it does, but it's nowhere near at a practical rate
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: heh, that's semantics
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: totally different process not semantics at all
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: hmm only dry ice sublimes
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: The original wording was not 'evaporate' but 'become vapor'.  Sublimation is just a solid 'becoming vapor' :)
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: not true at all, Xzx.  Ever seen liquid nitrogen at work?
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: wtf xzx? 
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: u should say solid to gas
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: well urwin, sublime would be going from solid to gas
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: liquid nitrogen by definition goes from liquid to gas, yes? :p
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: yeah liquid nitro :P
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: actually i think a few more chemicals do
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: but come on, really? only dry ice? how about regular ice in a cold vacuum?
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: i read they got metamatrials now can do anything
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: boom. sublimation
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volans Tech: freon?
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: well, you could freeze it even further, it will still sublime if you pulled it out of the freezer
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: uh, you'd have to get way lower than a freezer to solidify it
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: it would also sublime if you bury it under certain citrus trees.
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: just change the atmosphieric pressure :P
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: given that the boiling point of liquid nitrogen is 77K
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volans Tech: baaddd baaallaaaam
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dispel Majic slaps Blessed Balaam.
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: however, dry ice is absolutely not the only thing that will sublime. it's just the most commonly seen one. :p
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Hrm... I had a pun bad enough that Majic slapped me.  I don't know if that means I have won or lost.
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: Majic, the term "freezer" was used in the larger sense that includes more than household appliances
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: well, ok then :p
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: you have always lost
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dispel Majic hugs Blessed Balaam.
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: wx
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: err oops
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: is there a trigger pattern wildcard that takes negative numbers into account?
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: regex?
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: wtf... i just got a "virtual memory minimum too low" message
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wink Tech: my mushclient seems to be eating words, like I can't see the name of who's talking on music and trivia channels, and when things get sold on auction it doesnt show the name of the item, just " SOLD to ElGuapo for 100,000."  Anyone have any idea why?
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: You have a crazy trigger gone wild?  Start disabling plugins one by one to see which one fixes it.  Disable triggers as well.
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wink Tech: it's been doing that from the first day of install, before i made anything custom.  But I'll try your approach, thanks
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: did you get the AardMUSH, or the MUSHclient from the gammon.com.au site?
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wink Tech: the mushclient customized for aard, with built in plugins, from aardwolf.com
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wink Tech: and it's been eating words from day one.  i just realized the music channel exists and it's not just imms having fun with random magenta text. lol
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Did you start with resizing the windows?  I can't remember the command, but you might just be missing the left few columns.
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wink Tech: i did resize windows.  I see all other things ok, like tech channel and gossip, but in a couple, like music channel, the name of person speaking and channel name gets cut off.  Does that sound like the columns you're talking about?
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: try the chat fix on Fiendish's site, perhaps?
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: That was my first suggestion, yes.
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: bah.  Mis, but got there anyway :p
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: is there a way to wear two shields at once?
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: like dual blocking instead of wielding?
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arismis Tech: that'd be cool
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: http://www.pcworld.com/article/181046/Unfinished_Windows_7_Feature_Turns_Laptops_Into_Wi_Fi_Hotspots.html?tk=rss_news
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oryn Tech: anyone using tf on a mac in terminal? wondering if there is a way to get grey to work
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir points at you.  How rude! 
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir points excitedly at Archimedes Eureka!
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Oryn doubles over in pain as Seltsimees Dagnir places his knee in his groin.
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hmm. You could swear Seltsimees Dagnir has been here just a second ago. You wonder where he went ...
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oryn Tech: ouch? ;)
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do you have seegray turned on?
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oryn Tech: no - the line is blank after the
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: AFTER THE WHAT?!
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oryn Tech: heh - when I type seegrey, the test line is blank after the word "the"
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oryn Tech: terminal type is set to xterm-color - should I change that?
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasdeja Tech: thats pretty standard. My $TERM is set to that.
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oryn Tech: yea, that should have the capability for grey
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm at work, away from my Macs...check Terminal.app's color settings to make sure that your background color and the different ansi colors are all distinct
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: otherwise, hit me up around 7pm and I should be able to walk you though anything
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oryn Tech: which tz? or mud realtime?
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUD time :-)
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macuiltotec Tech: Anybody ever use the quest/cp/gq script for zmud taht would make your targets blink white?
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not blink, no
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: I built my own, actually, though I haven't gotten around to cps since I'm qsitting like a crack fiend
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: although technically I'm using CMud instead of Zmud
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macuiltotec Tech: well i have one and it worked fine on zmud but on cmud when i cp check it just makes all my 1's blink white instead??
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Learn From Einstein Tech: anyone knows when invdata's item name output will be changed to be consistent with eqdata
T1/r7/2009-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: are we sure that's the direction of change that will happen?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakkalan Darkhawk Tech: anyone here of a virus called general, or is it a smokescreen
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakkalan Darkhawk Tech: err generic
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakkalan Darkhawk Tech: no damage I know of done, just keeps being scanned by shield, but nothing can be done to remove
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: prolly a false positive, google the file it detects
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: prolly a false positive, google the file it detects
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakkalan Darkhawk Tech: thanks like a magnet file
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: sorry
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: magnet file?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakkalan Darkhawk Tech: like Groshk uses however spelled
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakkalan Darkhawk Tech: I was told ZMudd was incompatible with Vista by iyogi center is that true, or is that hidden "generic virus" a possible cause", using java now
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Me Wantee Freggle Tech: zmud works fine on vista
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Me Wantee Freggle Tech: check zmud forum on zuggsoft
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakkalan Darkhawk Tech: the virus shuts down my windows service programs about it, I don't see pt of the virus
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakkalan Darkhawk Tech: maybe blocking my most used programs like zmudd and netflix
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakkalan Darkhawk Tech: fsecure site if 50% thru scan will find outif "generic" virus is of significance
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakkalan Darkhawk Tech: if it is I got it from internet booster sites bragging to increase speed, but just offer forums
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: 777 is read/write by all, right?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yeah, and execute, too.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ahhh, gotcha. Thanks
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: How do you get the equivalent of pageup in tf?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I want to scroll back up.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I know zip about TF.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: pageup should scroll half a page...
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: alt+ctrl+p should scroll up one line at a time
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: you can also change the default keybindings if the default doesn't work for you. See /help dokey
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Apparently, it scrolls up my command buffer. I've /loaded kb-bash.tf, but Shift-PgUp doesn't seem to give me the scrolling like it would in bash :P
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: what terminal are you using?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ugh. I don't know how I did without multiple desktops for so long
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: dual monitors (or more) are cool
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ignorance is a bliss
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: used one desktop?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod, I was running multiple monitors for a long time. When I got my 24" I didn't find them nearly as useful, especially when I had my laptop at hand as well
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Drtoki: Whatever is on BSD. I don't know, this is a remote server I didn't set up.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: But I guess that should be overridden by the SSH client I'm using? :P
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Anyone know offhand of a good utility to resize hard drive partitions under ubuntu?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: gparted
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: get a bootable cd with it
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Can Gparted resize partitions without losing data?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: most of the times
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Well, it's nothing important enough to be backed up - so its not important enough to care if i lose it.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: however i have no idea what filesystem you have on it and os
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: NTFS.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's reliable, never lost data with it
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: windows might mind, just make sure it's still marked as boot
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i managed to rebuild a raid array yesterday without breaking it
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i was impressed
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i want to have your babies!
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ah, non issue. It was a 500gb drive, had a 100gb os partition and a 400gb media partition - installed the os on a different drive - just want to kill the os and expand the media to the full 500gb
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you can have them, i don't want em
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Are all created triggers/aliases/macros etc for MUSH stored in .mcl file?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Does anyone have an idea why exporting my aard.mcl file into MUSH (under wine) might cause the client to crash?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Are you running MUSHclient in win98 mode?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: lemme check
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Wine is set to windows xp, do you think this would make a difference?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: could try installing it on windows xp instead
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: or in a proper vm
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: it was windows xp by default when I installed wine
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: a proper vm?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: virtual machine
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: for example?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: vmware
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: virtualbox
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: These programs have a similar function to wine?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: much better than wine
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: virtual machines
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: you install windows on it
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waterhouse Tech: VirtualBox is fun!
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: So uh, that would involve me having a windows install disk?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: and license, yes
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: ya
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: or iso.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: think of it as an operating system inside an operating system
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: your alternative is to install a native client
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Tintin++ or TF
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Something I should consider perhaps....the annoying thing is though, MUSH already works fine with the standard aard.mcl file that comes with the install. It just screws up when I try and transfer my aard.mcl with my settings from my windows OS.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you're always going to get unusual issues running it on an os it wasn't designed for
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: And yeah, I could use a native client, it will just take a lot of time to rewrite all my stuff.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i'll be running zmud in vm xp when i upgrade to 7
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Fark: Zmud won't work under the XP compatability deal in 7?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: doubt it
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: zmud works fine with windows 7
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Gotcha.. I've heard it works well, so was hoping zmud would be okay
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: been running it since beta
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Running it in Win98 mode will stop it from crashing when an issue with a script/trigger/alias/whatever tries to open up notepad.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i use all manner of db and com objects with it, so will prolly run it in a vm to make sure
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: I will try under win98
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Does Virtualbox have that... whats it called, Ubiquity? That allows applications from the VM to act like they were running on the host?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i'm sure i'll find other stuff that i have that won't work in 7 natively, so won't be a problem
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: though need to upgrade the pc before then
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Bah, still crashes. Maybe there is something dodgy with my mcl file
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Try commenting out the plugins one by one.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: How do you mean?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: the plugins work fine, its my trigs/aliases/macros I'm missing
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Are they missing, or is it crashing?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: and it seems as if when I create a new trigger on the blank mcl it saves just fine
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: all plugins work, I've just been replacing the standard aard.mcl file with the one that comes with install
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: as soon as I do that the client crashes while loading up
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Uhm, I mean, replacing the standard aard.mcl with the one with my settings even
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Then as a suggestion...  don't do that.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: You know of another way to import settings?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: By copying them correctly.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: export then import
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can try binary troubleshooting...comment out/delete 1/2 of the .mcl, see if it works
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: keep adding stuff back in until it breaks, remove 1/2 of the stuff you added back in on the last go
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Usher laughs at 'binary troubleshooting'.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: I will try binary troubleshooting. It sounds nice and important, even if it results in FAIL.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Resulting in fail would seem to be the whole idea.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: and with the import/export thing, surely thats what I'm doing anyway? Saving the settings will just save as .mcl file.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: ctrl-alt-I gets you to the import screen.  And wow...  don't ever import a normal import a normal .mcl file.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: I suppose I could copy by hand, even if its gonna kill half an hour
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try going to game -> configure -> triggers...click save...then in the other one, click load
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: copy/paste is a wonderful thing.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: question is, phenom 2, or skt 1156 i7?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: well yeah, I love copy and paste too, but can't copy and paste between two comps ^^
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: I have my xp laptop the other side of the room, I'm just running back and forth with a memory stick
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: For shame. It seems gparted doesn't allow resizing of ntfs partitions
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: the documentation suggests it does
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Hrn. Odd... the helpfile shows it not being supported....
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ah.... forum suggesting to install ntfsprogs package
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: it didn't use to -- it needed drivers, but these exist for NTFS now and are stable
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ah, got it... installing ntfsprogs package enables it
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: well, I got these trigs, just waiting for my memory stick to start working again, its dodgy as hell
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: you could try the live CD
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Oh, duh.. it says that right in gparted. I'm blind.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: it's always easier to see something when you kno wit is there
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Gregor.. you could try using something like drop.io, least if its small files
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Oh yeah, probably just gonna email it to myself actually =)
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Also an option!
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: its weird, this memory stick works fine half the time then every so often it just stops working and is not recognized by any computer
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Thats what I did with my portable zmud files... saved em in gmail so i could get to em anywhere
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: heh, this is novel, I'm emailing myself from the other side of the room
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: lol how? :)
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: got two computers on the net in my room, its awesome. Plus I got another offline computer and a ps2.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: I love my room =D
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: There is no excuse for having less then 5 flash drives, though.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: just a piece of hardware I've never acquired....in fact the memory stick I rant on about is actually an mp3 player
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Touche.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Nothing like being able to play Aard and download porn without having to switch windows, right?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: You can boot an OS from an MP3 player? :P
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: everything is a memory stick anymore
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Pffffft. Clearly starling has not discovered the porn on multiple screens =p
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Trurien.. actually, yes you can
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yeah, I know. I just haven't bothered to find out how :P
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Starling shakes her head at Daloran.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I'd be just as content with portable apps though.... Considering most of the computers I run across in the wild would be xp / vista anyway
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I have an idea how it should be done, though.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Nods, starling has the right idea. Now I can have a dedicated terminal for pr0n and one for aard.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Ah... now I know how I can install Ubuntu :)
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: learn one-handed dvorak for more efficient multitasking
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Is Dvorak certifiably better for one hand? Or two, for that matter?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Heh. Dvoraks efficiency is a myth.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's not, daloran
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It is, Dagnir
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i touchtype with both keyboard layouts and dvorak feels much nicer
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's aboot comfort
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Wow trigs imported
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm not going to argue aboot the speed
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I guess it's about your personal preference, too..
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Well, I'm glad it feels more comfortable to you. But, the argument you generally hear about dvorak vs qwerty is that its OVER 9000% more efficient
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: isn't
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: heh, not that much. but it is. dunno how much tho
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It's not, Dag.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: No idea, I haven't got the time to learn it. And having a keyboard drastically different from what's on the keys is a drag.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: think of a random sentence and type it i with both keyboards
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: see which one makes your fingers move less
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: movement of fingers is a poor measure of efficiency
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so what is?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: usability, ease to learn
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Indeed it is. I find qwerty layout to have an even alternation between left and right hand keypresses.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Not always but more often then not. As I understand it thats why it was designed this way
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Is Dvorak optimised for English, though?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir nods.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you tell 4 billion people they need to learn a new keyboard layout and see what they say....
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Which means another statistical study and different layout would need to be done for Dvorak-Dutch, for instance.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: if you want to fine tune it
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the home row letters are common for most indo-european languages
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: there are localized versions of dvorak
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: even estonian
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Farkyss: that may be true, but nonetheless, if the system is better when learned, it might be worth learning in spite of whatever complaints might arise.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: my layout - http://endymion.pri.ee/dvorak/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/layout-et.png
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if you ignore the whole implementation issue, then maybe, but in the real world, you can't ignore implementatio issues
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's never going to the masses that's for sure
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: took me 2 weeks to touchtype on it and i never looked back
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yep, but it's not a question of popularity, it's a question of efficiency.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir nods.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: for exactly the same reason, linux isn't the os of choice
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: So if it were only used by 10 people, but it made them a lot more efficient, it would be good, too.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien nods.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: all i know is that it's developed for optimal typing by a guy who knew what he was doing
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Because most people have been trained to expect what comes with Windows ... even if they didn't want it.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i can buy that
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Hm, Dagnir, it works for you, so good for you :P
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yup. i'm not an evangelist
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: There hasn't been any studies done on dvorak vs qwerty, that I've ever found. Other then ones done by Dvorak
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: really?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Care to prove me wrong?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nah, i'm not feeding the trolls
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: anyway, it won't change
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: It's called discussion, Dagnir. Not troll-feeding :P
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: dvorak helped me to start touch-typing tho. i used 3 fingers on sholes kb before switching. got a fresh start and learned to touch-type. and then again by learning to touch-type on sholes, too
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: can you knit?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: lame trolling then. i'm not discussing stuff here. just telling you aboot my experience. i'm not trying to prove that the kb is any better
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'd rather have a linux vs windows flamewar
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Hrn. I wonder if thats the reasoning behind Motorolas new phone being codenamed Sholes before the official droid name
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: well, macs are better than either, so why bother
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: macs, keep it real
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i like mac hardware
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: eh?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: I agree. Only reason why I use Windows is for Aardwolf
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: overpriced, but looks nice. the unibody laptops are nice. would install windows/linux on it tho
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I use BSD for Aardwolf :P But that's because my linux server has apparently been switched off.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: windows on my laptop, linux in a remote server. best of both worlds
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: xp on my pc, xp on my laptop - best of both worlds
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: agreed
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: agreed with Dagnir
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: it's not going to last farkyss -- you'll be forced to side-grade eventually
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: to 7, yes
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: switched from xp to 7. good riddance. they finally made an usable version
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: 7 is lovely :)
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: yep, avoid vista -- I had not choice but to use it -- pain in the ass
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: 7 looks like a hybrid of vista and linux, and i'm sure i'll hate it
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: lovely compared to xp and vista, maybe
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it should have been like this some years ago already
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: nods, 7 came too little, too late
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: too little too late for what?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: looks? wtf?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beltegeuse Tech: hmm seven is better than vista but seems its vista based
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: my setup looks exactly like xp, but does more and does it better
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: I would think it should've came out about the same time that Apple released Leopard.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Vista has its place.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: IN BEFORE IN THE TRASH
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: 7 is what vista should have been
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's basically sp 3 and 4
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: I'll never buy a MS first release again, been burned to much. waiting for the first round of updates
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I'm just glad to finally see cablecard support without oem restrictions... though thats not MSs problem so much
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: cablecard?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod... TV tuners.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it's just a shame that hardware is so cheap these days
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: should set a minimum price of $1000 for a pc or laptop
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: CableCARDS are pcmcia formfactor cards that slot in to different devices like tivos, or other set top boxes that allow them to decrypt digital content from the cable providors. I think its strictly a US thing
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Why's that?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: @Farkys :P
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Without them you can't get any of the scrambled content like HBO / Showtime / other HD digital channels
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: because the current system of pricing is environmentally unsustainable
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: so were pc's that cost $5000
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: not true
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if pc's cost far more, you wouldn't have 3-5pc households which get thrown into landfil every 3 years
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: slow the rate of development, that'd be better
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: there are plenty of opportunities to donate older pcs
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: erm, old pc's can't be recycled or reused, they get dumped
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: True also, but price is only one part of the puzzle. Redryn has a point, too.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: This is where Linux comes in :P
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: no it isn't
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: because linux doesn't develop
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn runs away in utter terror!
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: linux rools
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i read that as drools for some reason :/
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I'm curious to see what part googles os will have to play
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Heh, well, it's scalable. More so than any given windows version, I think.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Sorry, there I go again, mutilating the English language in an attempt to be cool
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Android? Or the desktop thing that's on its way out.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: scalable? how's that got anything to do with it
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: The desktop OS.. Chrome OS, so I hear
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: first thing you can do is ensure that Dell and other major manufacturers are forced to retrieve from end users, and fully recycle the systems in a carbon neutral way, at THEIR cost
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i'm sure that'll add at least $100 to the cost of every pc/lappie
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Redryn: so you can design Linux systems that run on lower requirements.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: actually it's pretty profitable to recycle pc's
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it's not, redryn
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: only if you get the good stuff out of them. and don't have to deal with the junk
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: this is where china comes in
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn nods at Seltsimees Dagnir.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: the cost of recycling a motherboard (for instance) far outstrips the value of the recycled metal from it
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and ivory coast etc where we dump our junk
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: there we go, dagnir, you've hit the nub of the problem, it's not sustainable or ethical to dump your crap onto china or africa
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea, i wasn't referring to 100% recycling
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: anyone seen 'artificial landscapes' documentary?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it needs to be 100% recyclable in the country of sale
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: develop a way to use waste to build sea walls, we'll solve the problems of global warming and garbage in one go!
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Farkyss: agree with your prior point. What's this about 100% recyclable in the country of sale?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: either that or will still all drown but in garbage infested waters
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: pointles having it recyclable but then having to transport it 4000 miles around to the other side of the planet, trurien
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: That sounds more like a national policy issue than any company responsibility...
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: matters of environment have to be agreed globally
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Unless each hardware maker's branches in that particular region are responsible enough to do something about it.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you tackle the 2 major markets, the others will follow
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Eventually.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: pretty quickly, actually, makes economical sense to
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: declare genocide on anyone with an iq <100, that'd work too
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: But what constitutes recycling? Refurbishing old computers with used parts? Or do you mean the material per se?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: that wouldn't affect the purchase and throwing away of pc's, redryn
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Ban all trolls, that would work too.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i mean materials
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it would, reducing the rate by at least 30%
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: refurbishing old pc's is already a dying art
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: True ... it's so much easier to buy a new one.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: cuts down on waste vastly, reduction in co2 output, solves food shortages.. etc etc, the list goes on :p
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Banning all trolls would also help by forcing people to make constructive contributions instead of random noise. Then the world would probably move ahead better.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Anyone around who uses tintin++?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I did. What's up?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: I do
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I would love to, but my server seems down. Ask away, anyhow :)
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: So, for writing aliases / triggers etc... It doesn't store them? You just have to write them to a text file and then use #read?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: yes. you can use #write filename and #read filename to do it quickly...
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yeah, you can run it with the filename at the start as an argument so you don't have to #read it every session, though.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: tt++ custom.tin for instance.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Gotcha... Is it possible to read in 1 file, and use more #reads in that to load additional files?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I made a separate script for that. And yes, it is :)
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: or you can write out your aliases/triggers in files, and use #read or #class to read things in
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yeah, check out #help class as well.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Hrn. Does tintin have a concept of local / global variables?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: my master file uses #class to read in another 12 or so files... #class makes it easy to remove the aliases and triggers if I change something
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: all variables are global
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Not sure what you want, Daloran.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: All variables are global, yeah.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Gotcha.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: But you can have system variables that are automatically triggered, like %0-9 for globs in #actions.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod, But I meant if you stored information from a trigger, it'd be accessable from other triggers... not able to use the same varname in multiple areas
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Also.. theres a way to exit out of tintin but keep it running.. something about a screen command? I saw someone talking about it once, but, can't remember enough to look it up
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: #suspend, I think? Oh, you want to leave it altogether and leave it running, eh?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: OK, that was bad .
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: So, check out screen.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod.. Thought there was a way to close it, but log back in to it later remotely over telnet or such
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ah, alright. Thought it was something specific to tintin not part of the os
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: any idea if #split will work over telnet?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Hm, isn't that a tintin command?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It is
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: never tried it... only play on a local terminal program
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ahhh kk.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: What do you mean by work over telnet, then?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: I imagine it would... I've used programs that use similar cursor control over telnet
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: #split creates a text entry field at the bottom of the screen. Was curious if it would work if connected remotely
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ahhhh alright
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Oh, yeah, if that's your question, definitely, because you open a terminal that is effectively on the host computer anyways.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I use it all the time.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Whatever happens there should be brought to your current computer as well.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ahhhh very nice.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Anyone have the trigger text for the void handy?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: ^Your eyes glaze over.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Thanks 
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Anyone have a tintin autohunt script?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: have you thought about switching from tintin -- I moved a year ago and it was worth the effort
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: I've got a half written one... check with chicomecoatl, I think he's got a full one
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: swalec.. I'm in the process of switching to tintin. =p
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: ah...from?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Zmud
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ahhh thats right. forgot chico ran tintin.. hes got some scripts on his site
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Whenever you get that working, let me have a look .. I want to learn some too, at some point.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Learn some what?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I moved from tintin when my config files got to about 10M -- I have a great shortest path thing running but...
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: tt++ scripting. I've only got basic triggers and aliases now.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: I got some pretty intensive tintin stuff.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I know :P
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ahhh gotcha. Hopefully i'll end up porting most of my zmud stuff over... but... some of it won't work well like the gauges
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Hey Chico. Thought you were afk =p
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I guess you could hack something together with, say, xterm and maybe zenity...
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: yeah and forget a floating map window :P
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Nod, gauges and such won't work well with tintin unless you put a less graphical instance of it in you #show
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: I was.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: YOu can do a map window
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yao... map windows have been done - but requires a second term
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: you never know when chico is really here :P
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chicomecoatl nods at Daloran.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Ninja chico
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: I wrote a map window, I don't usually use it. I do have a seperate chat window
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Kinda like you never know when cart is here.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Chat window would be handy
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I used to have terminals up to capture ft and helper, but I don't have them now.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Chat window is the same thing
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: second term?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: It's not a chat window per se, your input is still in main, but you can shift the channel to a side, physically.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yep Yaomiqui, xterm.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: #act {\{chan ch=%1\}%2} {#log {aardwolf-chats } {%2}}
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: oh, that's for linux?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod.. not running wintin
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: You don't have to use linux
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: though I think you can run tintin++ under cygwin
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Open up your cytgem and run a second terminal with ssh
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: err. cygwin*
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yaomiqui walks around in the room, looking very confused.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien rapidly nods twice at Chicomecoatl, in complete agreement.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Anyways, Im out. Shoot me a tell if you have secific questions, ill answer them later if i can.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Will do chico =)
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: http://aardwolf.chicomecoatl.angelfire.com/blog/ Chicos site, with a few tintin scripts
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: before I bother to search forever, is it at least possible to auto-arrange my desktop items to something other than the upper-left corner ?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: when I copy a playlist to an ipod does it check filesExist and only copy what's missing to a root dir or does it copy the whole pls whether fileExist or not ?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: it goes, what your name is habasi *crash*
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: the reason being I've ended up with lots of doubled files and I don't see any reason they should be there
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: by my logic all the files should go in a root dir or whatever and the pls should just be a txt file of pointers. it's just efficient
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhAt Ninja Wereturtle Tech: does anyone know CMUD, I have a newbie-ish question
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: 42
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: don't ask if anyone knows the answer, just ask the question
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: just ask most people will answer if not you spent a whole 30 seconds to ask
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhAt Ninja Wereturtle Tech: lol, I somehow managed to turn off aliases so it won't recognize when I type them in, any ideas?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: which client?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: click the little computer to the right of your input box
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd guess it's like zmud...click the computer icon in the bottom corner
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhAt Ninja Wereturtle Tech: ahh, thx :)
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and there should be a little gun in the other corner for turning all trigs on/off
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasyrn Tech: anyone use atlantis client?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not really
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasdeja Tech: I have it, but don't use it.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasyrn Tech: any suggestions then for mac os client for aard?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: zmud
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the clients which have readily-available help and/or pre-done scripts available for download are z/cmud, MUSHclient, tinyfugue and tintin++
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasdeja Tech: tintin++
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for MacOS, if you're a typical Mac user, I'd suggest MUSHclient
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasyrn Tech: that needs wine
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUSHclient runs fine under parallels, fusion, or darwine
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasyrn Tech: yeah, this is a mac :)
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, all are fine of the Mac
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err on the Mac
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasyrn Tech: no, I mean, i'll go over to my windows machine if I wanted win32 software
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there is no decent or popular GUI Mac client. period.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're geeky and want native, then tinyfugue or tt++
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasyrn Tech: but the tf and tt++ are interesting ideas if there are scripts for them
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's plenty of scripts for them
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger me for some tinyfugue scripts, finger Chicomecoatl for tt++ scripts
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasdeja Tech: there are a few clients that will also run under the X11 implementation iirc
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasdeja Tech: but you'd probably have to have macports installed too.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasyrn Tech: nice, thank you!  Wish atlantis made scripting to file easier - I'd just port stuff over
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: kasdeja, that doesn't change my statement that there are zero decent GUI clients to run natively on the Mac :P
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are no decent linux gui clients
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: oh, that I disagree with Abelinc
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasdeja Tech: kildclient seems OK.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: tru KMuddy - it does more than ZMud, and it doesn't make you twist your brain with some random scripting language either
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and where are the scripts for it?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no current client makes you twist your brain with random scripting languages
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: most Mac-users use the Mac for business, studies. research, not games -- not surprising that there is an absence of decent popular MacMud-clients
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the trend is toward letting you use the language you're familiar with...however the problem with that trend is that one person can't tell wtf someone else did
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: I was replying to your statement of " there are no decent linux gui clients". Yes there are, and I named one. If you counter it with "and where are the scripts?" - anything you can run on a *nix machine is fine for this client
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: can any linux gui clients be good, given linux isn't
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: xyliz, that hasn't been the Mac demographic in 15 years
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kasdeja seems to think you have the right idea.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah, you gave what you believe to be one...and not anything you can run on a *nix machine is fine for the client
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: well, it happens to be fine, the client just pipes :)
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you need something to pipe
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: so whether it's compiled C, or a bash script, or a Perl script - it'll run
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it won't run...it's none of those...
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're missing the point TG
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: huh? We're still talking about "where are the scripts", right?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: if they're ZMud scripts, they're nowhere, that's true - not like anyone outside ZMud cares about that fictive scripting language
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the answer to where are the scripts is "they don't exist...if you want even the most rudimentary setup, you must start from scratch, and write it with zero help"
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that is fail. tf, tt, mush, zmud & cmud don't have that shortcoming
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: pretty much the same with any client, even tf. "I have scripts on my web page" is the same thing, they're scripts you made for yourself, their value for someone else may be quite limited, do you not admit?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and yes, tt & tf can similarly pipe anything you have scripted in whatever language you want
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not true for any client at all
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what is surprising is that folk share any decent mud scripts at all -- due to the competitive nature of muds
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: granted, ZMud has a big user base, so you find pretty much anything. But not so for other clients :P
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is so for other clients, which I expressly pointed out TG
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: LART Timeghost shrugs helplessly.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: saying things that aren't based in reality doesn't make them true :P
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: I can point you to thousands of MUD scripts in Perl, would that help change your mind? No. Why do I bother :P
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: i wrote a great equipment handler in TF but you just convinced me not to share it with anyone else :P
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: those MUD scripts won't work...
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: way to go
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Sultan Solmyr shows his approval by clapping his hands together.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: pardon me, but WHAT won't work? :)
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your pretend scripts which have nothing to do with Aard
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: and, more specifically, WHY? 
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: LART Timeghost snickers softly.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: umm, why not, Abe?  If it's an MSS (zmud) or MHS (CMud) language, they work with either client as long as you have the appropriate dlls installed
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for the very reason you KNOW they won't work
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they'll give you an idea of how to do it
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and they may be close
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: well, outside the fact I use them, SURE they won't work. absolutely not.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, now you're really full of it :P
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: no no no no. And my computer is just a figment of imagination. Yup.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'd like some of them thousands of scripts, please
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, you're just ignoring half of the truth
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because you know that it doesn't support your statements
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: FYI, I have plenty of scripts running to log/analyze on the fly/etc. They all somehow work. All are in Perl.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you have them...that helps nobody
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: whatever, I'm not arguing for the sake of arguing :) I've made a point, take it or leave it - I'm out.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if you want to flaunt your opinions, then phenom2 or Skt 1156 i7?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you haven't made a point...you've shown nothing
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: what does gotomypc do that remote desktop doesn't?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: maybe take your money?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: seems to be the only diff
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finds the computer
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: eh?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and doesn't need the firewall to have a nat route
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: thats about the only diff
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can't remote into a computer behind a router without configuring that on the router
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: well if you're techie enough to need to remote desktop in, you're likely to be techie enough to set up the nat
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and need to know the ip/dns of the router
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: often, you can't set it up from outside
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you would have set it up in advance
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tough to do that when you're called in for frantic support
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I use something called netsupport manager for work, usually just vnc at home
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: I wish I could get rid of this damn log icon once I'm done with it
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasyrn Tech: so decided to try wine/much on os x - this is nice
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasyrn Tech: that's wine/mush
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasyrn Tech: abelinc if you're still here - the tf client...how do you make it go to white on black?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: change your telnet client/terminal window settings
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Is there a way, from sfail and affoff tags, to tell a client that that particular line is NOT a spell? My spellup script wants to recast chameleon, sneak and other skill spellups.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: Best solution i've found is to give affoff with skills a higher priority than my general catch all. I'd love to hear a better one though, its clunky
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: The only solution i came up with, was to add exceptions to the trigger.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Such as #if {"$autospell" == "active" && "$position" == "You are Standing." && "%<spellnumber>" != "certain number to NOT cast"} {c <spell number>}; #else {#nop};
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the way I went was to grab slist spellup once to have the spellnumbers, spell names, recoveries & whether they're a spell or skill...then when I want to add a spell to my list of things I want to cast, /addspell searches for a match and adds a variable for what to do when it wears off...if it's a spell without a recovery, then when the spell wears off, cast spellnumber...if it's a skill, just type the name of it...if it has a recovery, don't do anything on affoff, wait for recoff
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: YOu autocast your recoveries?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you want to...if you don't want to, don't /addspell them
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: good way to get it to 100%
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Nod, i just badlisted everything for skill spellup
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: badspell awareness, etc
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I never added recovery spells to my old spellup script because you usually want more control over when they're cast
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Nod, i manually do my recoveries, except test of faith
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: /set abe_want_501=awareness
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Since test of faith, at these levels, in pretty close to permanent i don't don't worry about it
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so when affoff 501 comes down, it types awareness
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's an /addspecial for exceptions...I don't /addspell protection good, but have c 68 ; c 121 sent when affoff 121 comes through
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Nick Gammon's script for mush was pretty smart when it came to differentiating between spells and skills, just trying to find a smooth and easy way to do it for tintin.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: check out what mine does, skills/spells are transparently done
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gammon's went a similar route in that it grabs slist first
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Nod, mine is damn clunky
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Did a whole list of #if {"%1" != "<SKILL NUMBER>
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you /addspell, the only thing it does is check the locally-cached slist, then sets a want_<spellnum> variable to what it should send to the MUD...
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Nod, only issue is i would have to deal with a portion of the script i didn't write to check those, and risk messing it up.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then the affoff trig adds the spellnum to a variable's stack/queue without even thinking about it...if it doesn't fit, that'll be handled later
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then I have a "pulse" process that checks for standing, mana, etc...if we're good to cast something, it'll first dedup the stack, then it'll try casting the first one
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Abe is a bot!
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Starling looks at you, gasps, and utters the words "Oh My Bot!"
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Nod, ill see what i can do after i hope in the shower.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so if /set abe_need_spells= 4 484 335, my process will look for a variable named want_4
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if there's a variable named that, it'll send the contents of that variable (and remove from the stack)
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: If I ever make something pass the turing test, it's getting its own account. Just to see what the IMMs do.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: board personal;note write;imm;Usher is a bot;watch that boy! look on tech -h \;);end;p
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: on sfail, it'll do 1 of 3 things depending on the sfail reason code...it'll just remove from the stack (you don't know that spell,recovery, etc), it'll stick it back at the back of the line (not enough mana), or it'll put it back at the front of the line (lost conc, nocast room, etc)
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chicomecoatl looks at Usher and says, "Oopsie! Did I do that to Usher?"
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Usher laughs out loud.
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Anybody know or have a good approximation of the function for resistance and damage reduction?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a logarithmic function
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I guessed that much, pity I have no details :(
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Starling sniffs sadly at the way you are treating her. 
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Does anyone know how to fix an e74 error on an xbox 360?
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: send it into ms
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: they will replace it for free
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: call first 18004myxbox
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: But that'll take a few weeks, and I'd like to just fix it myself and sell it
T1/r7/2009-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: when i had it it took about 1 week from when i shipped to when they shipped..not a huge inconvenience especially as the whole thing was free
T1/r7/2009-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: any cmudders know how to get aliases to execute in an mxp send link contained in a different window (ie, clicking the link in the child window sends the alias call to the main window)?
T1/r7/2009-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Anyone have the trigger text for quest time expiring? 
T1/r7/2009-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: "QUEST: Better hurry, you're almost out of time for your quest!"
T1/r7/2009-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Er, I meant when waiting for a new quest
T1/r7/2009-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Sorry, I wasn't very clear
T1/r7/2009-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: heh, my work colleague's worried - they froze our online banking because someone using 3G connection logged in
T1/r7/2009-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: wonder how they managed to get our account number, password, and security question
T1/r7/2009-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: is there a way to turn off all triggers/aliases in mush, like there is in zmud, where i just click the gun?
T1/r7/2009-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game -> configure -> triggers...enable triggers
T1/r7/2009-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: i see
T1/r7/2009-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MindTorque Tech: Heh... British school of UI design?  http://www.relisoft.com/Science/ui/index.htm
T1/r7/2009-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: Ugh. I got a pile of code dumped in my lap that is going to drive me to drink. One file, one class, 1k lines, no header and a ton of 'FIXME:'s
T1/r7/2009-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: How many TODOs?
T1/r7/2009-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: ...
T1/r7/2009-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: only four todos, so I guess thats a plus
T1/r7/2009-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Who dumped it in your lap?  Send it back for cleanup? :P
T1/r7/2009-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: java? any javadoc?
T1/r7/2009-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: C++. I can't send it back, deadlines
T1/r7/2009-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: break it into 10 100 line files, double the number of FIXME's, and pass it off to the next guy?
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: See? I know.. its like one of those things you don't think about =x
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: mis
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sirene Tech: Anyone good with iTunes here?
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: ask away
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Quick question... if I copy the contents of a bootable .iso onto a USB stick, is it bootable?
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: in theory
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i have read that it was
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: depends on computer
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Or would I have to write something to the MBR of that memory stick?
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Usually you have to use a utility to "burn" the .iso to the USB drive
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: what are you trying to boot into?
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: An Ubuntu installer.
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: unetbootin is the utility to use for that.
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: all .iso files have to be burned to the medium
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrazySk8er DaRicoDude Tech: linux
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sirene Tech: No they don't
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yeah, going to try that now ... used that for Windows before but didn't bother to check it for Linux.
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sirene Tech: There are programs that will 'mount' .iso files like a drive
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: oh. you said copy. if you use like copy paste then it prolly isn't
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: yeah, just search the ubuntu forums for it, pretty easy going off of the guide there.
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: But that wouldn't allow you to boot from those ISOs, would it, Sirene?
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Stranton: I'm on Debian now ... I wonder if it's available in the repos.
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: you can use dd
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: copying files isn't sufficient to make a USB stick bootable. And a .iso intended for, say, a CD, isn't suitable for a USB stick directly
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I suspected the former, TG - but can you explain the latter?
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: that's not true anyway
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: What's not true?
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Does dd really work?
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: From what I've read you can use normal Linux install .isos, you just have to use a special utility to "burn" them to a USB disk
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: Trurien - that's a tough one, I remember going through big pain when I needed to make a minimal bootable USB stick with a Linux kernel. I had to get a special ISO for that, and even then my computer didn't pick up the MBR of the USB stick...
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: And short of using Unetbootin ... well, what else can I do?
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: that iso for cd isn't suitable for usb stick etc. doesn't really make any difference
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: basically, the BIOS doesn't expect to find the same stuff in the MBR of a DVD and a USB stick IIRC
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: external cd drive?
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yeah, Gramdel. I've been using CD-images to boot from USB.
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: well that's just a computer issue if it can't properly boot from usb
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: and the .iso you download from ubuntu.com just the general one works just fine for installing on a usb stick.
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Stranton: don't have one, and I don't want to burn a CD, that's the main thing.
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: could be Gramdel, yes
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: yeah not all bios recognizes a flashdrive as bootable
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gramdel nods.
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: What makes it all more interesting is that I'm not using a USB stick so much as an SD card stuck into an MP3 player connected via USB and set to 'Removable Disk' mode ... so there are many links in the chain that could break :P
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: LART Timeghost snickers softly.
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: What does UNetBootIn do anyway? If I can reproduce that manually, couldn't I use some script to do it instead?
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: 5 years later, Trurien connects via his fridge because it has the cheapest internet :P
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Hey, if that works.
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i need a nano-itx mobo for a project, and they're all so damned expensive
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: anyone else played left for dead 2?
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwise Tech: anyone have a mush decap counter?
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: what's a decap counter?
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwise Tech: a counter to keep track of the number of decapitations
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: ah, okay
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: why don't you make one
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Otherwise known as a vorpal counter? ;)
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwise Tech: nods
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Willyham Tech: is there a way i can change the message for when a skills time runs out?
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Trigger it and substitute
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasdeja Tech: not server-side, but client side you should be able to use #sub or whatever your client supports
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrazySk8er DaRicoDude Tech: my mobo died of old age
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Willyham Tech: is there a way to change the color of messages?
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: colorschemes
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasdeja Tech: help colorset
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Willyham Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: stupid question: vb can do math inside of an array index ? i.e. arrayName(x+1) ?
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oryn Tech: is this correct? /trig * DISARMS you and sends your {*} flying! = get %2%;wield %2
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: ew, glob matching
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: What language?
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in this case, glob doesn't have any drawbacks for this pattern, and globs are more efficient
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oryn Tech: for tinyfugue
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but I would use a variable for the weapon, since nothing says that the <name of flying weapon> will work for keyword
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tslacker Tsarikos Tech: anyone using cantrip?
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so when not wearing aard, I have /def -F -t"* DISARMS you and sends your * flying!" non_aard_rearm = g $[primary_weapon] %; wear $[primary_weapon]
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah tsarikos...for Macs, I'd suggest MUSHclient inder parallels/fusion/darwine if you like/need/prefer GUI, or tinyfugue or tintin++ if you're geeky and want something native
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oryn Tech: can also do the mushclient thru wine on the mac with macports - works passably well
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's what I said :P
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's lots of ways to get wine onto the Mac...
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oryn Tech: hehe - just saw the parallels/fusion :)
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tslacker Tsarikos Tech: heh yup, used to have a windows os on my mac, but it died on me and i'm kinda used to mac now
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tslacker Tsarikos Tech: was just wondering whether anyone knew how to write triggers on cantrip, it doesn't seem to allow me to insert any actions in response to a trigger
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oryn Tech: so, abe, in you /def, primary_weapon is defined in .tfrc? (tf newb)
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, my ~/.tfrc is preferences only...all utility stuff is loaded later
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: you can define it anywhere as long as it's not defined with /let and given that the file is read
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oryn Tech: yea, that part I get - was just confirming the primary_weapon was actually defined somewhere and not grabbed from glob
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: /let is a variable assignment, not a macro definition...
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, yeah, for the primary weapon, I have a abevariables.tf file
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oryn Tech: cool
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oryn Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: BTW Oryn, you can tweak the appearance of colors in Terminal.app really easily...go to font -> show colors...that'll bring up a color picker...then you can drag right from the color picker into the background, into regular text, or into any color that's on your screen...so if you type "colorset colors" to see the example of each color, you can drag from the color picker over one of the example texts and it'll change how that color appears
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make your background color different from the gray line in colorset colors to see the grays
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oryn Tech: hmm - yea, I played around a bit with that - I've got a black background - still tweaking around tho to try and see the gray
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oryn Tech: cool - got it - have to have "Use bright colors for bold text" to get gray to show
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: why is it that windows' 'search' doesn't abide by my view setting, and can I change this behavior ? i.e. all my folders are 'details' but search is always 'thumbs'
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: is there an easy way to export cmud scripts to be imported into zmud?
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: no way to export them at all, except by hand
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: an export to .txt or .zsc
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: cmud doesn't do that, Myrkul
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: isn't the only difference that cmud vars have protected status ?
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: well no, you can export to .xml from in cmud
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: but zmud doesn't read xml of course
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: habasi umm, no.  There's practically an entire client's worth of changes now
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: hehe, shows what I know :)
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: yes, but that doesn't mean you can't write scripts in cmud using none of the new features, that should work with no changes in zmud
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: mostly that's not the case, since one of the changes is that cmud executes scripts line by line and doesn't execute other triggers until the currently-running one is done
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: cmud scripts have some of those nifty little fixes that they depend on that would make them break in zmud
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: that doesn't rule out a possible export to .txt function
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: yeah, it does.  CMud doesn't export to text, period
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: cmud can read .txt files, no reason to not be able to export either
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: can it export anything ?
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: xml
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: it can export to .xml
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: which is useless for me
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: if you want to go to the trouble of writing your own text file with your settings, I suppose you could use the various file-writing commands
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: cmud's settings editor is completely different...
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: the results of the file-writing commands are not different, though
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: nod, that's what i did, but as you said it's a pain in the ass
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: . o O (  ) Habasi goes, "Heh."
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: probably better to just try and read in the xml file via  and pick out what you can.
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: i originally exported to xml and tried to convert <alias> to #ALIAS and such...
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Urwin giggles.
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Shrug, not everything about maintaining a gq bot/alias system is easy ;)
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: but of course i made a few mistakes, and it didnt work at all when my friend tried to import
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: so i ended up just making it from scratch in zmud, copy/pasting the code over
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: and then export to .txt from there
T1/r7/2009-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: and it turned out to be much easier and much faster than my first attempt :P
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: Also, does anyone here use zmud via wine on ubuntu?
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Use Tintin++. You'll be glad you did.
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: tintin++ have compression?
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yes
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: thanks bye
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Scripting language is also very similar.
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Oo, a tt discussion NOT started by me, how rare.
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Chico: I have been converted.
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: You're welcome.
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daloran hugs Chicomecoatl.
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Got a nice spellup script you may like too
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I'm all ears, if you want to send it my way. I find the spellup command in the mud is sufficient for my needs - but, if its better, why not
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Spells others, and then recasts what was failed on them, also keeps you spelled 24/7
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Very nice. Keeps me from moving my hackish zmud one over
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: And, it sets a queu of what wears off while fighting, and then casts them after the fight.
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Also: #SYSTEM echo "Quest time!" | mail emailddress.com ... Win.
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: It will be up on my site as soon as i get it thoroughly debugged, so keep you're eyes open for it.
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chicomecoatl . o O ( I learned my lesson about giving out un-debugged scripts )
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod.. I can't imagine supporting people is too fun.
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Chico.. were you the one with the script that would email notes to you? I forget
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: God, let me tell you this: It is a major pain to fix a script froma  distance, especially when the person fixing it is like "umm.... How do i populate that variable?"
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Not me, i am working on something similar though.
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: lol. Nice.
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: I need to write a perl script to querie iwuvaard
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Would be nice.
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: daloran, charneus does that in zmud, might have it in cmud as well now
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And, the variable comment, I assume you mean your quest script?
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Would go nice with my roomwalks That mob is in $iwuv_area and the path is $path
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ahhh Charneus was who I was thinking of. My mistake
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all the ch names look alike
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: MICROSOFT COFEE GOT LEAKED
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: huh?
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: http://www.microsoft.com/industry/government/solutions/cofee/default.aspx#get_info
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: scary stuff
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: got nuked from the original site 6 hours ago, but it's all over the place already
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: microsoft forensic tool only for law enforcement agencies. distributed by interpol
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mowseykin Tech: Is there a way in zMUD to preserve colours when using #psub?
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the bounty on it was terabytes for years on some certain private torrent trackers
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vestreen Tech: would like my screen to look as per Aardwolf site, problems 1)chat echoing on main window 2)chat and stats windows wording bleeding off edge of page 3) unable to lock windows. need advice as to where to go to read up on this stuff please.
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mowseykin Tech: Is there a way in zMUD to capture only part of a line to another window and preserve colours?
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emberion Tech: Hi, I'm using MUSHclient. How can I get the automap to show up in the window I'm using?
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: are you using the one from aardwolf.com?
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emberion Tech: And it's annoying how it keeps switching to different tabs when I do something (i.e. Big Map, Stats, Chats...) And yes, the one from aardwolf.com
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: i just resized the windows so i can see both
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emberion Tech: Oh, ok. Well, I closed the automap window.. how can I reopen it?
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: restart mush
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emberion Tech: Nevermind. I just moved east and it reappeared. Thanks.
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: i still get stats and bigmap windows opening even though i never use them, even though i've disabled the plugins :P
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emberion Tech: How annoying
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: it's no biggie, they're behind my main window
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emberion Tech: I guess I'll get used to it.
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: how -does- Goldman Sachs make such a lot of money in such a short space of time?
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peloso Tech: Lots of capital, major government influence, intelligent (and perhaps immoral) workers...though this isn't a conversation for this channel.
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: anyone know a good free firewall program?
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: zonealarm?
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc875811.aspx windows firewall if you're into setting it up yourself
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: coo ldeal
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: i don't think zonealarm is free anymore
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: everything is free if you use google
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: HWAHT WAS THAT LINK AGAIN?
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: oops
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: it did not work
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: . o O (  ) Habasi laughs out loud at BigRichard Rampagne.
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nakami Tech: the link to windows firewall?
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: windows xp firewall doesn't let you configure anything really
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: only other free one i used was tiny personal firewall
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Me Wantee Freggle Tech: Comodo firewall perhaps?
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: is it theoretically possible to have both a /dev/null and a /dev/one ?
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: anyone know much about downgrading gentoo from ~x86 to x86?
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: anyone here involved with image or sound analysis on a professional level? I don't mean photoshop, more like frequency analysis, noise removal, etc?
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: maybe i will switch to debian
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: if you want to down grade it's difficult i think, cause you have to rebuild your c library's, kernel and everything
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i think there's options with the gcc compiler to compile 32 bit things, or you could look for info from somebody who did it
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you could always install windows 7....
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hmm. You could swear Feral Farkyss has been here just a second ago. You wonder where he went ...
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: windows 7 - all the benefits of linux, plus added cost!
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nakami Tech: and usability :P
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: maybe i'll just clone my home directory, and do a fresh install 
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: sounds lessp ainful
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: These days, if you need to downgrade, it is easier to build up the desired environment from scratch in a VM than to dink with the libraries.
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: yeah, not really any point in doing it manually if you don't have to
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: it's easy to save your config files and stuff
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: hmn, i don't have to
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vinzent Tech: Hi! Is there an advanced MUSH Client user on for help? :)
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Many, just ask your question.
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vinzent Tech: I just saw the pic on the main page illustrating how you can show your HP / Mana visually, another window with the map, another window with a character sheet. How do I do that?
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Download the version made for aardwolf?
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vinzent Tech: I'm on Mush Client 4.40
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude is on a computer.
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yaomiqui is on your mom.
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Nod, download the aardwolf mush, then download the latest version over it
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vinzent Tech: Do you know where I can get that? I know where I can get MushClient, but I don't see the aardwolf version
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spodgy Tech: arent the aardwolf features coming from the config files as opposed to the binaries?
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Aardwold.com iirc
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Aardwolf.com* iirc
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: yes, but it's much easier to install aardmush, then the newer mush vs manually installing the plugins
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vinzent Tech: I'm not getting the IIRC.
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: iirc = if i recall correctly
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vinzent Tech: Ok, I got it. Thanks, be back after install.
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nakami Tech: anyone have a script for mushclient to calculate exp/hour?
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: how do i tell alsa which sound device to use?
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasyrn Tech: can you chain commands in tf?
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasyrn Tech: oh - xterm with mac os x
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure, %; is tf's command separator...in the stock configuration, it impacts things in macros/aliases/trigs...if you want it to impact what you type on the command line, either type /eval before it, or change your "sub" setting.../help sub
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasyrn Tech: sub...neat thanks!
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasyrn Tech: love your scripts btw
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: thanks :-)
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: which app you guys talking about?
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasyrn Tech: tf
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tinyfugue, my preferred MUD client :-)
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Tf is nice, i still prefer tt though.
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: have you tried the wintin++?
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasyrn Tech: not sure why I tried it - just not happy with the gui clients for mac
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wintin++ is tt
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Nod, thats what i use.
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: I know it's basically the same, but it's supposed to be updated a lot
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's regular tt++ compiled for windows
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Only issue with it being updated alot, is that they change alot of stuff - so i have to go and modify all my scripts each time i update.
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: what language in tf
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: You guys know where I can see some screenshots other than wintin's website?  I like the script language that it uses (shares with zmud, right?) but now i'm using an ubuntu box...
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, stranton, there's nothing to tt or tf screenshots
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're both CLI clients...the screen is just a box of text :P
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: the wintin++ isn't.
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasyrn Tech: i find it similar to scripting in zmud
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes it is
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: wintin++ isn't just cli
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: whats the point of clients if its just one window, and you can't pipe text to other windows?
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can, ramier
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just need to do it separately
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Ramier: you can witha  tail
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: Hmm, I'll have to look at it later I guess.  Time to collect firewood for now.
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasyrn Tech: so you have to gag one and tail the other?
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: wait, so in tt or other cli's, you pipe data to another file and then you tail it in another window?
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasyrn Tech: heh, jinx
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: In another terminal, yes.
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: that sounds like a pain
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: On wintin you have to use cygwin
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: stranton, don't confuse wintin++ with wintin.net
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasyrn Tech: oh...that's how that map script works?
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wintin++ is just tt++ compiled to use putty in a pure CLI
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: wintin: www.tintin.sourceforge.net
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wintin.net is its own animal, and totally diverges from any supported tintin
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: so for these pure cli clients....you need to have a script to open up all the seperate terminals whenever you want to start a mud?
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: No
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ramier, you need to do it the way you want to do it in any client, gui or cli
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chicomecoatl nods at you in agreement. 
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are different ways to do things, it's all choice
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Its hard to explain the process of a CLI client, for people who are so used to GUI clients
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: i've only used z/cmud, which opens other windows automatically, or mush, with miniwindows
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and nobody's suggesting that you stop using GUI clients
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: I am
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I don't recommend tt for 90% of MUD users
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or tf
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Nod, i would not tell you to switch; I was just stating that /I/ prefer CUI
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: i'm just wondering how cli's work, it was the reason i didn't decide to switch to them
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: I don't anyone using GUI clients, because I want all the advantage for ME! MUHAHA
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasyrn Tech: yeah really - these are for scripters and geeky people who like to tinker with innards of watches n crap
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: CLI*
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Nod, tf and tt are the geek clients, and i honestly wouldn't recommend it to most mudders.
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: so what do tf tt have over gui clients
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: better scripting, if you're geeky enough to use it
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Scriptability, ease of access (with time), shell commands
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: shrug. seriously, a CLI client differs very little from a gui client unless you use mapping features.  You still learn a scripting "language" for aliases, triggers, et al.
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: CLI clients are more interlinked directly with the OS than most GUi
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: you said the scripting was similar to zscript?
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: tt is
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: tf is not relatively close.
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: so why do they have better scripting? you use bashscript?
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: because bashscript sucks
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: z/cmud originated from tintin
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: I can use /any/ language i want.
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: perl, ruby, lua, html, you name it
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: I used tintin for 10 years or more, then wintin for a couple of years, and the zmud and now cmud. Withe the exception of mapping for me the difference was minimal.
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: i looked into tt's method of using other languages, it involved calling outside scripts through its own "script()" routine?
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: #scrip or #run, yes.
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: that doesn't seem very different than other clients that have some sort of exec() routine, and most do...right
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baktosh Tech: I hate you guys so much right now.
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: right back at you Baktosh :)
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: If you delete your copy of a PM from your Sent folder on a forum, it won't actually delete the PM from the server, right (the recipient will still have it in their infolder)?
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saric Tech: is it possible to add a carriage return between commands?
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saric Tech: err sections of output, rather
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: what are you talking about
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: yes, it's possible
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aztar Tech: I use semi-colons between commands, but not sure if it's part of the mud or the client.
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: client
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: depeonds on the client, it'll probably be something like a semi-colon or 
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: errrr \n
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saric Tech: no, I'm talking about having empty lines in the output window between sections of output
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saric Tech: right now, it's jumbled together
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: check out the #cr command
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aztar Tech: "compact"
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Anyone knows a useful program to fix misaligned partitions on linux? I can't install Ubuntu on my spare partition because the table is messed up ..
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: have windows installed currently?
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yeah, Vista.
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: not sure if there is a rescue mode on the vista cd where you can run fixmbr
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nakami Tech: does disk management in vista see the partition? maybe you can use that to fix it?
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I never got a Vista CD, it came preloaded.. and the recovery mode seems to always give only an option to do system restore.
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: How did the partition table get screwed?
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: It came like that, actually. I don't know why there are issues with Karmic, I was able to install Debian and OpenSUSE fine before.
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Then again, I've never been able to get Ubuntu to work on this box, so I think it's something with the installer scripts or with the particular version of gparted they use as the partitioner..
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: what does gparted say about it?
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Usher: there's a rescue partition, marked by fdisk as a Compaq diagnostics partition, and when I load it in gparted the whole partition table is not read, the /dev/sd* is assumed to have no partitions on it.
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: OK, that should have been two separate sentences.
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: But it's the rescue partition which came preloaded that doesn't end on the proper cylinder.
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Side question, Nakami, since you suggested Partition Manager (or whatever it's called...) in Vista, how come I'm allowed to mess with the partitions there even when they're already mounted?
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: aah. Its just a warning though right?
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I thought so too, but it generates errors when I try to fix it with fdisk, for instance, and cfdisk quits with a fatal error (detecting an error on another partition... :()
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: Something like partition magic might help you. ultimate boot cd has something that restores partition tables, but it doesn't sound like the partition table is wrong, just goofed up because of the rescue crap
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: That, and my swap partition may be misaligned, too.
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: Whats the swap partition from? Vista makes one?
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I shifted my partitions before using parted Magic on a bootable usb, though.
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: maybe the compaq diagnostic partition was deliberately misaligned to prevent removal
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Usher: nope, I made that for my debian. Still can't hibernate though, but that's another issue altogether :(
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: probably a problem with a hidden partition?
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: you are going to have debian ubuntu and vista? 
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Xyliz: it is probably the case. But wouldn't a fresh partition table 'fix' that?
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Usher: yeah ... partly because I forgot the password to my openSUSE install and decided I should wipe it :P
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Or else I would have those three, and openSUSE.
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: how big is the harddrive?
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why didn't you just boot single-user and reset the password?
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: 250GB. Abelinc: I probably could have, but I did some other things to screw around with it... heh long story, but I decided to get rid of it anyway.
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I am probably a little too used to the apt- system instead of zyppers...
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: Can you remove the rescue partition? 
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Anyway, good discussion .. I'm going to reboot and try the Vista method.
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Usher - I wanted to, it's taking up about 10GB in total, there's actually two rescue partitions but it's only the first one that's misaligned.
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the rescue partition has a mechanism to let you create cd/dvd for vista...might want to do that before mucking about too much
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: However, I reasoned that the rescue partition should be kept as is just in case I had to boot into Windows in the future, etc.
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: I'd also burn off a copy of the www.ultimatebootcd.com. Its saved me a few times
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: As I occasionally do.
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nakami Tech: oh, trurien i didnt notice you asked me directly.  Do you mean why does vista let you mess with paritions in use?  the linux and rescue are defined in the MBR but arnt mounted, I don't hink.
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Abelinc: Haven't got a blank CD/DVD with me, but I'll keep my fingers crossed - I'm only going to nudge the first partition back so it ends on a proper cylinder, I hope that shouldn't affect bootability.
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: I think Vista has one of the few tools that will resize a mounted partition. It can be done, its just kind of dangerous
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: It can be done, but everything else needs to be kept where it was, or shifted back after all of it.
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: i've learned the hard way, never mess with the HD till i have a windows cd/dvd ready :P
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Nakami: no worries :) There was quite a bit of stuff on the channel anyhow :)
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, the inability to muck with live partitions isn't a hard limit, it's a safety precaution
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nakami Tech: i think also you can expand partions using the tools, but never shrink them.
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: Although, resizing a partition from a burn CD is dangerous too if the CD is scratched. Learned that the hard way
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yaomiqui: yeah, I had to poke around for an hour until I fixed grub the other time.
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: We'll see.. I'll be back in a while.
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Well, the diagnostics partition couldn't be resized either way. Not too sure why.
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: There was a forum post showing how to use sfdisk to alter partition tables, but I'm not sure I want to try that.
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I'd also need to resize the filesystem on that partition first, and I don't know what tools I can use to do so.
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: three new Mac adverts featuring Windows7  (1) a single user decides where to upgrade to: Winpain or Macpleasure, (2) a Vista crowd ready to upgrade .. to the Mac, (3) "no more problems" history recap 
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Heh. Here in Germany the Windows 7 ads are very lifestyle-oriented. Not sure how it is elsewhere, but I think that's the standard format.
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Apple Macintosh (with the small market share) is the overpriced competitor to Microsoft Windows
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Windows 7 is too reminiscent of "Married with Children" where Peg Bundy named the rejected adopted kid "Seven"
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rolst Tech: anyone use cmud?
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: I do
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lots of people do
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for scripts, check out davos.aardcharn.com, as well as the script repository that there's a button in the toolbar for
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rolst Tech: i have davos script but it isnt working how i would like is there any way to cut it off
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: besides deleting it?
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which script are you referring to...there are 5 on that site
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: Rolst the spellup script? Type AUTOCAST to turn it off
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you should be able to disable that folder
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it's not working, you probably don't have the tags it needs turned on
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rolst Tech: ok i got it cut off thanks
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: since you didn't respond I'll consider that you ARE in fact using his spellup script and didn't read the docs... which clearly say you can use autocast command to turn it off
T1/r7/2009-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: btw, the rest of the docs tell you how to set it up so that it works appropriately... PICKVOIDS is the command to remove spells from being cast automatically... and GETSPELLS to case the ones you want
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Is Rsync still a useful tool for keeping say, an external hard drive synced with an internal one? Or is there a better linux utility for local synching
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: hmm, lately my firefox's been leaking memory for some unknown reasons sporadically, any way to figure out what's the cause?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: that's what ff does, sadly
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: How are you checking this, on task manager?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: firefox is awful
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn nods at Trurien.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it used to work fine though :(
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: you just upgrade to a new version or add a plugin?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn shakes his head.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Is it maybe a few too many add-ons?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: perhaps :p
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i first noticed it a couple of months back, just seems to be more common now
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: restarting fixes it
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Interesting.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: maybe i'll switch to chrome or something, anyone used that?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: what's wrong with internet explorer?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: Yeah
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I didn't check memory usage, but I've used that for some time.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: chrome is a bit awesome
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ie doesn't have the awesome plugins ff has :p
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: and chrome will have?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Neither does Chrome...
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: Chrome on windows has the good ones I think
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: uzbl > chrome
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Uzbl?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: adblock / flashblock
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Drtoki - Uzbl looks pretty hardcore. :P
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: You'll love it :)
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbiegurl Tech: i have a character i made on my phone, but it doesnt wana work on pc. what could be the problem?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: What do you mean it doesn't want to work
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbiegurl Tech: when i try to log in it says incorrect password even though its the right password
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Well, it's obviously the wrong password
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Interesting, maybe you typed a character wrong somewhere?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbiegurl Tech: but its the exact same password as when i log in on my phone and it still says that
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no it's not
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: log in to aardwolf?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbiegurl Tech: yes when i log into aardwolf on my phone it works but when i try with the exact sam e password on pc it says wrong password
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: You're obviously typing something different then
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that means it's not the exact same password
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: are you suggesting that the mud login is bugged?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbiegurl Tech: no i dont know...
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbiegurl Tech: ill try again 
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbiegurl Tech: .. i got the problem, with my phone it made the first letter capital, but the pc didnt :)
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: YOU didn't
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: don't blame the tech
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Heh, it's automatic on the phone, I guess.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: You should pay more attention to such things in future ;)
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbiegurl Tech: im not blaming. thanx for ur help
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbiegurl Tech: thanx i will
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbiegurl Tech: dagnir dont be so touchy
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien flashes a mischievous grin at Barbiegurl.  Hmm. is it time to run and hide?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm not. just advising you to review your own actions before blaming the tech you're using
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Barbiegurl ) i didnt blame the tech i realy thought i typed the same thing
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you didn't
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yup, so now you know :)
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that's the idea behind password protection
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Dagnir: huh?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbiegurl Tech: thanx anyway.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: look on the bright side, at least your bank account wasn't hacked, like my work one was, according to the bank
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you know, type the password like it should be typed and you get in. you don't - you don't get in ;)
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbiegurl Tech: shame . haha jup
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Lol. Yeah I have to agree with that. :P
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbiegurl Tech: ill do it right next time 
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: personally, i think their software was misreporting the incident, since the people they claimed logged in from a 3g set didn't -do- anything other than log in then log out
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erko Tech: h -30
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: h +30 <-- restored!
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erko Tech: 3thanks
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: wonder how a bank would be able to detect if a login is from a 3g network or not
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erko Tech: probably from the ip
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: IP check? Or flood it and see how long it stays disconnected? :P
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: from the ip, which can be spoofed to prove anything
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: That is true.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien shrugs helplessly.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Just means they aren't checking enough? :P
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: so phenom2 or skt 1156 i7?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: or is it a case that you're all too poor to have either?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: have yet to find a completely silent GF 200 series solution, either
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: surprised no manufacturer has come up with a unified thermal power dissipation plugin system
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: My #grep in tt++ isn't showing anything ... is there a #config variable I should check?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: no.. How are you using it?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: #grep <phrase>
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Like even after this output, #grep Tech returns no results.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: Hm... and it just returns "#NO MATCHES FOUND." ?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yup.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: Have you tried using page numbers?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yup, both don't work.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: Well, unless you're not using a scroll back buffer, I don't know what the issue could be
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I can page up and down, so I'm guessing there is a buffer?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Drtoki shrugs helplessly.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: do a #config and check BUFFER SIZE
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: It's 5000, to be sure.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: I have no idea then.. Try a "#buffer find Tech" It will place your buffer at the most recent occurance of "Tech"
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: You may need to send some blank lines for an accurate reading
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: #BUFFER FIND, NO MATCHES FOUND.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: !!!
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: Well obviously there's something wrong with your buffer :P
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I'm going to try the newer version off sourceforge instead of the debian repo one...
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: What version is your repo on?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: 1.98.3-1 ...
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: hm, should still work... but yeah, recompiling it from source could very well solve your issues
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Make has errors, quoting some missing files or errors on the line. :(
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Can't compile either.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: can't compile... what are you, man or moose?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: lol, spoke too soon :P
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: what errors are you getting?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Hold on, I'll pastebin
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: do you have a compiler installed etc etc?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: debian doesn't include all the necessary stuff by default afaik
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I guessed that might be it, but I'm not sure what to install. :) http://pastebin.com/d6b030ace
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: looks like you need pcre and zlib
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yeah ... but which library should I grab from the repos? :P
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: libpcre3 perhaps for pcre
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: sudo apt-get install zlib1g-dev
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Then should I not install libpcre3-dev also?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: go for it
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: can't hurt
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir . o O ( probably )
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Ah, it seems libpcre3 is already installed anyway.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: So it's probably the dev part that's missing.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: sudo apt-get install zlib1g-dev libssl-dev should work
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: btw, i'm googling all this stuff based on your report...
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: amazing, eh?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: ssldev, why?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: i just did apt-cache search pcre to get the info before
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Well, I'm checking apt-cache show, and google doesn't always give 100% correct results.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pierced Tech: can anyone please help me with a ssh client to play aardwolf ?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: dunno, it fixed something for someone. why not?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien nods at Trashbat! Anipopo.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: sound secure, too :P
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: It's why I asked *which* library to install, in case someone already knew.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: hm, for me pcre.h is owned by pcre 7.9-1
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: which is packed by default..
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Where do you check that? Some dpkg option? :P
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pierced Tech: uhm hello ?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: for ssh you can use an ssh session and then run a linux client such as tf or tintin in it
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: I don't know. Never used apt-get and its sillyness
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: What do you use, then, Drtoki?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: pacman
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Pierced: see Anipopo's response.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Ah, Arch, right?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: yep :)
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pierced Tech: ive got mocha telnet s60v3 v1.5.1 it opens aardmud but it doesnt want to type . Im trying to use it on my mobile
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: ok here we go. dpkg-query -S <file>
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: translation for pacman -Qo
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Heh, thanks for helping with that, Drtoki.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Anipopo and Dagnir too :)
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pierced Tech: pffft what a waste of time ! Doesnt even help to ask
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pierced, make sure it's using telnet instead of ssh (aard won't listen on ssh), and that localecho is on
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Pierced, you have mocha telnet on your phone, I suppose?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: You still have to connect using telnet to Aardmud because SSH isn't one of the open ports :)
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: root aard|!
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: hmm, that i dont know about, i am strictly a pc gamer
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: any way i can stop alt key from activating the menu bar? keep hitting it with my laptop kb and it's pretty annoying :\
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: with zmud that is
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: The buffer works now, incidentally, but there is no more #gagline.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Pierced, you here?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: I found a Mobile SSH for his nokia e50, but Aard doesn't support SSH
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: Plus the SSH will run you 50-90 bucks
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Since more packets are needed for encryption and decryption, or what?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ssh clients are generally also telnet clients
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try midpssh for a free telnet/ssh client
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: They're probably built like telnet+encryption, right?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: putty!
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: putty is just for windows, MacOSX, linux and winCE
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and wm5/6
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's just different versions on winCE
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: of*
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Punked Tech: is there a easier way to play aardwolf on a mobile ? Im using mxit now 
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no, it sucks no matter how hard you try
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pocketputty and midpssh are much better than mxit
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: for an easier way to play aard using your mobile, why not use your phone to all Dell and get a laptop?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Ouch Anipopo :P
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Komrad Kessel Tech: all dell? how disgusting a thought
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: aardwolf on a mobile is somewhere between bizarre and retarded
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Punked Tech: so there isnt a emulator i can load onto my phone ?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the best solution is to combine one of those with a real MUD client running in a computer...you can set up a freeshell account on linux/unix hosts and run tinyfugue or tintin
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: there's no real mud client for phones
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: is there an easier way of eating jelly on a unicycle?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yes, it's probably your best bet if you have to log on on a phone.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: they're phones, they're more calling people on
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'll always be limited to how much "stuff" you can see on the phone and how much of a pain it is to type
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Punked Tech: abelinc i tried putty and midpssh . Neither of them want to work
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so it'll never be a pleasant experience...but with a decent client setup running on a shell account, it can be passable to quest occasionally
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you also need to understand that a phone isn't a phone. there are hundreds of different OSes and capabilities...there isn't ANY program that will just work on "a phone"
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: googling options for your own phone is usually the best option...cuz unless we have the same model, that's all we'd end up doing to try to help
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pocketputty runs on windows-based smartphones, and midpssh works on most java-based phones, so they're good places to start
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yup, I used midpssh for quite some time :
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sometimes the cell provider has locked you out from being able to use them though
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I haven't encountered such cell providers, especially if they've enabled data transmission.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you bought your phone through the cell provider instead of from the manufacturer, they sometimes 'lock' the phone against using "unsigned" apps
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Punked Tech: i googled . I found sites that i have to register before i can download . But stil no emails
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cingular/AT&T in the US does that to many of their phones
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're "protecting you" :P
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Punked Tech: midpssh doesnt want to connect to aardwolf . Ive tried it already
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: What are your settings, Punked?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it loads, then it should work...make sure you're selecting a telnet connection...it defaults to ssh
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your phone may also have some places where you tell it which java apps are allowed to access the data stack
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Punked Tech: ip 208.43.193.234 aardmud.org telnet port 4000
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Anybody know if it's possible to haxx0r Aarddevil to work with CMUD?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: aarddevil? wtf is that?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: hey guys, if i am trying gentoo linux, and after updating an emerge portage, it won't let me emerge anything, how do i undo that?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Fancy plugin for zMUD
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a delphi app that runs external to zmud and communicates with it
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: fancy plugin for zmud that was never finished and v3 broke it in a lot of places iirc :P
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: I hacked it to fix most of the v3 stuff under zMUD, but my recent operating system upgrade forced a move to CMUD.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: zmud runs on all OSes that cmud runs on...
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: zmud still runs in vista and 7...
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: does zmud work well in wine?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: in vista run it as administrator
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mush is better in wine than zmud is
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: in 7 check the tech board, there's a post on how to get it to work
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: abelinc all the cool scripts are written for zmud tho
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: I couldn't get zMUD to run on x64 Win7
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not really, vampire
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I still think nothing beats tt++ or tf on *nix.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: I'll check tech board, since you mention it.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: trurien im on tf and i can't even find a pre-existing auto-treat-wounds script
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: note 4764
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I don't mean the wealth of existing scripts, I mean the potential :)
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: auto-treat wounds scripts are hard to keep legal
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Only works with 7 Pro or above, XP mode enabled. I have home premium.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're starting from scratch, mush gets you to a pretty-well-setup system faster than zmud
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: okay ...
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: didn't wanna pay the extra $89.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: robbo that reminds me
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't need to use the virtual xp...compatibility mode works
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: if i have gentoo, and i have both wine and qemu installed,   is there a way to ghost a windows disk and make it runnable from one of those?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: It's funny, because I managed to have zMUD running fine under vista, and in my experience Win7 is usually better for compatibility.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use note 4765 on tech instead of 4764 ;-)
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Not true on my machine. Tried it. Might be the x64 version.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: err, an issue with x64.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wine isn't running a windows emulator, vampire
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: abelinc i never claimed it was
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: but i have a windows disk i'd love to run's .exe's and win.com's off of
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's what using a disk would expect
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: as well as my ttf's
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then run them
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: is there a way to do so?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't have to do anything
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure, just mount the disk
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ok... i mounted it, it's ntfs
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: linux can read windows disks just fine
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: yep.... but it doesn't run .exe's very well?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm a bit late, but you DON'T need xp mode to run zmud with windows 7
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the windows disk doesn't change anything regarding what works well or doesn't work well with wine or qemu...
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: I've had issues with all the compatibility mode settings.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i didnt ask if it worked well, i asked if there's a way to use it from one of the two
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: all the? you only need one
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you just use it...there's no "way" needed
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: with which one?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: been running zmud on w7 for half an year with several different builds
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: xp sp3 mode
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: both, we've already established that
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you also might want to run it as admin. depending on the install location
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Yup, been there, done that.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: The process executes, but doesn't show anything on the desktop or even show up in the application list.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: did you install it? you need to install it
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ok, and do i just do  dd if=/dev/hda1  of=/home/vampi/qemu/window.qcow   ?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: just copying files will not work
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Yes yes, I did.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: or do i gotta do something more high tech?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i guess i have some kind of a magical build then :\
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: did you sacrifice the chickens? you need to sacrifice the chickens
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Mileage may vary and all that :P
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Actually I was suprised that I got all my other scripts pretty easily converted.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i know the issue, i've had it. but i've also fixed it with it
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vampire, you probably won't want to use the windows disk as the boot for qemu, since you're basically changing the hardware under the windows installation...
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd end up with similar issues to taking the hard drive out of one computer and sticking it into a different brand/model...it's hit or miss what will work
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: abelinc it boots, but the windows thing assigns it the wrong device # and it won't boot on its own
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i thing its a bios issue
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: like it tries to load, but can't find the disk where it thinks it'll be mapped to
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: qemu can use .img files, though, so if you've made an image of that drive, you can just give it a shot
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ok, and that'd be just like dd'ing out the partition?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: Or, no?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i think if i did one of those grub based pseudo-remapping thing with that swap command to change disk 0 and disk 1 around in the system... it'd maybe work
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: but that's too high tech and apparently grub legacy isnt supported no more
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, dd will work to create the disk
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: k.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: changing the hardware shouldnt be an issue, i never registered the first copy :)
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not about registering...it's about hardware setup
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ok.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i thought you meant the call microsoft or else we shut off your computer thing
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you install windows, it optimizes itself for your hardware
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Hmm, yeah, fresh uninstall/reinstall of zMUD, compatibility mode set to XP SP3 (or 2), Run as Administrator, and even with all the desktop crap turned down. Still nothing on the display.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: abelinc sorry , but thats an oxymoron
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Oh well, I'll keep haxoring on CMUD :P
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: abelinc so i just dd the partition into an image file then right?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: if i make the image file first, via touch, and dd if=/dev/zero of=/home/vampi/qemu/window.img bs=1 count =whatever it takes to get it to be 30gigs
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naara Tech: Anyone able to help me with a zMUD spell up script?...I heard there were some already out there.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: and then write over it, and the dd from the raw device is not enough to fill over it, can i use partition magic type tools to extend the partition later?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not sure what'd happen with partition magic inside an image file
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ok.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: abelinc how about instead.... if i wanted to ghost some windows off of /dev/hda1 and put it on my /dev/sdb3 instead... and try to make it all boot... would that be easier or harder than making it work with qemu?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you've got the tools, you can make the blank image file, install windows using installer, then restore the windows partition to that image...that should help with the hardware change issues
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: so like dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/dev/sdb3 && beep
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: and then when its done, trying to update my grub so it does a chainlaod attempt at that partition
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: hmn, so you mean make a new mbr with the installer?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: or a new 'everything' ?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: new everything
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: but then what'd be the point of using the one in the disk :P
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: forgetting for a minute that its window
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to have the stuff you've got on the disk...I was presuming that you wanted to use the disk because you've already got stuff set up on it
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: yep, with registry keys and all
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: CATASTROPHIC FAILURE!
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naara Tech: Anyone here have a nice zMUD spell up script?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: I love overdramatic error message :P
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Can someone explain to me how come Youtube's been down twice in one week or so for maintenance?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: naara, finger danj
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: they needed something done i guess? :P
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaenon Tech: anyone want to help a nub with aliases ?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aard's built-in aliases are as simple as alias <one word thing to type> <what you want it to do>...
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what you want it to do can be many words, but only 1 action
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you want an alias that does multiple actions, you'll need to use the function in your client, not from Aard
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaenon Tech: im wanting to make a generic attack button... but not sure what the alias would be
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaenon Tech: the last mud i played it was #1
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaenon Tech: like attack #1
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaenon Tech: or attack #2
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's nothing to mean "first thing in the room", if that's your goal
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaenon Tech: my goal is a generic button to attack with
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but if you had "alias fb c fireball", then "fb guard" would work fine
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naara Tech: Kinda like a macro? I have a marco and targeting system set up, I type in 't mosquito' then his F1 and it shoots magic missile at the mosquito :P
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaenon Tech: naara yes something like that
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naara Tech: Client?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaenon Tech: mush i believe its the one from the website
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaenon Tech: default game client
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: note that it's usually best to not use a target when doing attacks...you can mess yourself up a bit if all your attacks use a target
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naara Tech: hrmn lemme see if I have a setup for mush you can try out.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: I've never had a problem with my targeting triggers.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use the target to engage, then just use the attack name without a target
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaenon Tech: i see okay so wat i really need is a target alias then
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're fighting "fox", so you're casting attack fox, and a second fox comes into the room, you're not targetting the second fox with your attack while still fighting the first fox
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naara Tech: abelinc t 1.fox ?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: naara, the new one is 1.fox
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so the one you're trying to fight is now 2.fox
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: in zmud i use "tt"  with the command "#var target %1" and kt "kill arget"
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: err kill @target
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naara Tech: I think thast what im using in zMUD :P
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: kill isn't doing your attacks during the fight...
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naara Tech: but you can change it do a spell or skill
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: better to have it do <opening attack> <target> ; #number of tries <other attack> (without target)
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naara Tech: Lemem show the directions I have here, may I post? its a small bit spammy not much?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naara Tech: just to show you what it is
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: /def nuke = st %; mi %1 %; l %; /multi 4 im
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naara Tech: o MUSHClient 1) Create a variable called target 2) Create an alias: Alias: t Command: world.SetVariable('target',"%1") NOTE: Remember to check Enabled and Regular expression. Also remember to change 'Send to:', to SCRIPT 3) Now, once that is done you can add arget into any alias or trigger you want as per class skill. For example as a metamorphosis user in jaguar, hitting an alias called 'm' would 'maul arget' (Note skills are from a different mud)
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naara Tech: Thats what I use but zmud wise and ive never messed up like you say it can abelinc I just hit t (target) and itll do it without attacking another of the same creature in the room...just tested it on mosquitos in verume.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why would you check regular expression? less efficient and you're not using anything to do with it
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naara Tech: Thats just what the directions say, I didnt write it.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: naara, yes it will, every time. your test was faulty
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: why would you use a client for this kinda thing at all? sounds like a mudside alias to me :P
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naara Tech: Im using a zmud varient of that.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: else ou can just use #key f1 blah to define hotkey behaviour in zmud
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naara Tech: It was just a suggestion.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: ANYONE DL COFEE OFF WHATCD
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: ?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Love that caps lock, dontcha
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: check pirate bay. it's got nuked yesterday
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: YA BABE
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: it's on rapidshare everywhere
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: i just want to know what they put on it
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to the store and find out :-)
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm on what.cd. what do you mean?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: like, what software is on the software suite
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the bounty?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: whats ur name on what
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: none of your business
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: ooooh
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: well, too bad you cant guess mine
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: <- this is me caring
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: and you do it so well
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: hostile much
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: well, your questions have been kind of retarded
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: hey dagnir, when's your next geography of finland trivia?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir raises an eyebrow.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: is there a way to have rsocials grabbed to the chat window in mush?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are no tags for rsocials...you could capture everything that starts with a *, but there are many non-social things that start with it, so i wouldn't
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: so why are there loads of tv adverts about windows 7 highlighting features that were present in vista anyway?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasdeja Tech: Maybe now they work?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: don't be silly
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i suppose in a commercial world, they have to advertise it like that
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: linux is free, so can get away with the "if you want it, you'll have to code it" mentality
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: I do hear fewer complaints about 7 than vista.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i find it all vaguely amusing
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's because the stuff that can be complained aboot aren't that bad annoyances. better than xp imho
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: 7 is essentially vista sp3, but because it's new, people are forgetting all the unfair bad stuff they said about vista
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: I keep hearing it's vista, but it works, more or less.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasdeja Tech: Well, my opinion on windows upgrades is more or less "you're polishing a turd."
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: well all os's are turds by your logic
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nakami Tech: off
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasdeja Tech: Not quite. :)
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasdeja Tech: just the channel name, not off :)
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: well it must be, logically, given that w7 is the least bad of all current OS's, anything else must be worse
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasdeja Tech: That's your opinion, not fact.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: v7 isn't necessarily the least bad, look at what vista was when it came out
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: of all the current OS's money can buy, w7 is the best
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moshu Tech: after using vista for a while I started to miss things it had that xp didn't, I really want to try w7, and I think since sp1 vista has been a good system
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: new!=better
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasdeja Tech: I vastly prefer OSX. (Probably because it works, and there are the BSD underpinnings that let me run tons of OSS)
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasdeja Tech: osx + macports > *
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: until we start finding all the bugs
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moshu Tech: after using vista for a while I started to miss things it had that xp didn't, I really want to try w7, and I think since sp1 vista has been a good systemi
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: windows > macos > linux
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moshu Tech: ops sorry
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasdeja Tech: You see, Farkyss, I have the exact opposite opinion
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: there is no "best os". it depends on the experience and the purpose of the machine
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: depends heavily on the target market
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i really don't see the attraction of macos
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasdeja Tech: You must not really have a need to do anything interesting with your computer then
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: interesting?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i have a range of needs, all of which are met by windows, not all of which can be met by macos or linux
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasdeja Tech: How so?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i have a range of needs that can't be all met by windows or linux. so i use both
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: there are loads of special apps for windows you can't find for os x or linux
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasdeja Tech: I have a range of needs that don't require Windows whatsoever. So I don't use it.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: i use os x myself
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: windows as main desktop, linux in a virtual machine and a remote shell for simple stuff
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: all of my software and all of my hardware works on windows, most of my hardware and some of my software will work with linux, practically none of my hardware or software will work with macos
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it's really as simple as that
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasdeja Tech: Uhm, the last point is more or less by design.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: linux isn't too hard to find drivers for most hardware, bsd can be tough though
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasdeja Tech: And I can't imagine what kind of obscure hardware you have that isn't supported by Linux.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i asked on #openbsd how to get my soundblaster card to work, and adjust speed of my nvidia card fan, and they say write it yourself
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: my soundblaster xfi rig and tv card aren't supported in linux
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: a certain wireless chip, ati chips etc
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i got my xfi to work on linux
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: It's no fault on linux, but frankly such horrible support (due to vcard manufacturers) for my video card is awful to deal with :(
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasdeja Tech: Probably because the manufacturer of said card blows and won't release any specs for drivers, etc.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: why should they?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir nods at Kasdeja.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: I know, but it doesn't change the reality of dealing with it
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: soundblaster released driver cold to the oss driver project, but openbsd didn't use it
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that's the case with my examples
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasdeja Tech: Because people should have a choice? Nvidia and ATI have followed this path and seen widespread adoption
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasdeja Tech: Same with RALink
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ati oss drivers blow
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and they blow hard
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasdeja Tech: The point is they exist. I agree with you that I'd go nvidia.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: same is for most end-users, they'd never go to linux because it'd basically mean replacing chunks of their system and buying/learning a completely new set of software
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasdeja Tech: Well, god f'n forbid you learn something along the way.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: even worse in business, because they then have to worry about whether the new stuff will talk to the old stuff, vice veras
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: some of us are willing to make the switch if it doesn't require micromanging what x windows system we're going to use
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: but i'm sure you did all those studies on system implementation in your degrees
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: to resolve stupid vcard issues
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: depends on the use and the user of the comp. my family has been using ubuntu for some years now. i wouldn't install it as my own primary os, but they're doing fine with it. taught my mom to do simple stuff like updating etc and they've been fine
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasdeja Tech: Indeed, Farkyss, then I moved on to the real world experience part, and now here I am
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: however, i set it up
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'd never let my 2 little sisters use msn and the internet on a windows machine
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: they click on anything that moves
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasdeja Tech: And if you show them TCO reduction and a reasonable timeframe for implementation most higher-ups will go forward with a move to linux, assuming their apps have been programmed in a portable manner (java wins here)
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasdeja Tech: Anyway. Linux. FTW. :)
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: linux ftw if you're a geek or have more time than you know what to do with
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: linux over ssh ftw, yes
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: one of the few functionalities hard to compete with
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sidnarb Tech: my help files don't pop up any more - has anyone seen this before? currently using mushclient w/ vista
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: Does tintin++ use compression?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Yes, it does.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chicomecoatl . o O ( Sorry, bad lag. )
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: Hmm, that makes it kind of neat since it runs in a console...  I can change the transparency and whatnot...
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: Anyone here use it?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: I do.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: chico does
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as does cartman
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Lately alot of people do.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: Anyone know how to use it on Ubuntu?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Cartman runs his on a linux machine, so he is likely your best bet.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chicomecoatl . o O ( If you can catch him when not afk )
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: VB: would   var = textbos = value stick value into the first 2 items ?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: box*
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: I might as well just try it and see huh, only like 10seconds worth of code.....
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: i think im done with AVG, are there any other free anti virus that are as good or better than AVG?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: avast
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: latest avg totally bites.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: yeah, avg 9 killed it for me
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: i finally got tired of avg 8 sending me popup windows to upgrade, when i upgraded it started messing up my system
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: I just upgraded to 9, and it was the worst decision I've made
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: system has frozen many times.  totally bites.  8 used to work fine on my laptop, but 9 seems to choke with the stand bys.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: works fine for me.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: yeah my system doesnt com back from standbys and sleeps, and locks up every few minutes since i upgraded
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: although it got tripped up by some sort of intro-offer deal for Roxio's Easy CD creater that I think may have been included with Windows (I certainly didn't install it.)
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: man i wish there was an easy way to send a shutdown command to my pc from work
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: erm...  ssh loginc -t 'shutdown -h now'
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vpn in, type shutdown -s -m \\computer
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: there was an old program circa 1999 we used in highschool to mess with other comps in the cp room, can't remember what it was called
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: lol running windows 7 on both pcs
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: good luck there, =)
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't need anything special, windows itself includes shutdown remote abilities
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: well i dont have it enabled on my desktop so thats a slight prollem
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: well remote access
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not something that needs to be enabled
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Do you have any cats at home?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: enlighten me abe
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tech -h abelinc
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: why bother upgrading to win7 on all computers when the old xp does the job
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: ah, im unsure how to connect to my home network from work
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: hrm, microsoft marketing ploy "updrade to Win7 or else you won't be able to connect readily to nonwin7 computers"
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: yeah they did the same thing with vista
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: Is there a good website for finding out how to compile triggers into a single file to complete a task?  Like a website teaching you how to do this for Mush?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: www.mushclient.com
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: the forums have some good tutorials on scripting
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: Ok, thanks :-)
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: Can someone tell me a where to go to find an in depth tutorial on how to make scripts?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: google.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Any type of scripts?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: any particular client/OS/shell/etc?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: More specifically, a script that can be used to donate 10% of my gold that I get from mobs when I level on Mush
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Well, looking back at tech -h, you were already referred to the MUSHclient forums, which has a lovely "Getting Started" section (complete with videos), and an extensive list of questions people have posted on the forums.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: Ok
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: so if you get 10 coins from a mob, you want to spam "you donate 1 coin" !?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: The harder part is donating 3.4 coins when you get 34 coins from a mob.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: It's 10% on level, not on kill
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Why do that when your tax rate is already 10%?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: Get my gold donated up
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Don't piss away your gold on donations.  That's what taxes are for.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: donate trigs are spammy and annoying
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yao, that's why he wants it to consolidate it to a single donation per level
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: write a trigger tally the gold to a variable and an alias that donates in one lump sum and then clears the variable :P
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: do the math in your head?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: add a trigger for getting gold...have it use "SetVariable ("goldthislevel", @goldthislevel+%1) (note no "" on the second part)
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: . o O (  ) Habasi is agreeing with that Twisting FatesDagger person again...
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: Yaomiqui, if I could do math as fast as a trigger could, then I wouldn't need one, would I?
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: now add a part to your current "got a level" trig that says "Send ("clandonate oldthislevel")
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: now add a part to your current "got a level" trig that says "Send ("clandonate @goldthislevel")
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: guess not, but 10% is pretty easy to figure out
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: I would have to keep track of how much gold I got that level from mobs, then get 10% of that, then donate it to my clan.
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: and only donate when the amount is to donate exceeds 1 million coin -- reduce the spam
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for the "i got gold" trig, it can be "SetVariable ("goldthislevel", oldthislevel+%1/10)
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for the "i got gold" trig, it can be "SetVariable ("goldthislevel", @goldthislevel+%1/10)
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that'll add 10% of what you just got
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: both of those will want "expand variables" checked
T1/r7/2009-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: testing (sorry)
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: does cmud not have states and/or what is it's equivalent ?
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: what % of aard players play from proxy servers, remote shell accounts or trojaned computers?
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I'm guessing few :P
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: lol, yeah
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Trojaned computers?
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: why would anyone play from trojaned computer? :P
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: you place a trojan in someones computer, and remote ssh into their box and play through it
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I play from a remote shell account.. the port is otherwise blocked here.
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: because somebody installed a trojan and somebody else used a scanner to find the trojan
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: yeah but why would you play aarwold through that ?
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: to hide your identity
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: use onion routing if youre that desperate :d
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: you can't prove you're playing 100 players at once like that right?
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: to multiplay? to bot?
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: like breaking into a house to watch thier cable
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: I've used portable apps on a thumbdrive to login from a government computer before
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: 100 people with that excuse would sound fishy to me
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: yeah i dont think the imms will test 100 people at once for multiplay :P
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Heh.
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: yeah, freenode automated the whole process
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: that's why you won't find warez bots on there
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: yeah...you're not going to see that level of paranoia on here
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: paranoia on the internet? no way
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: how many you got logged in now including imms and alts/
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: unless an army suddendly groups together all the time...
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: if you are willing to risk a felony to multiplay
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: I have myself logged in
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: what's they losing multiplaying? an instance of a perl script?
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Starling admits it:  The mxit plague is nothing more than her botnet aimed at annoying all of Aard.
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: jail time we can do but nuke no way
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: what a painful thing that would be
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Jail is no big deal anyway, haven't you heard?
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: since they're against it, they've got something to hide
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: hee
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: Ah, you're one of those people
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: if you get sent to jail for 3 years you only lose 3 years of your life if you get nuke you lose much more :P
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: There was some guy who was on my last mud, that was doing it from within prison.
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: I don't think multiplaying is a big enough issue on this mud to warrant Lasher spending his time coding to stop it
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yaomiqui nods.
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: oh yeah, takes alot of time to add a line to a config file to start an automated scanner
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: and edit on sentence in user agreement
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: We have a user agreement? :p
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: haha wtf :P
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: where is it
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: shut up duckbat, you're some kind of jackass
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: Wow
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: fight
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: wtf what did i say
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: Angry much?
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: No personal attacks please
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: bot much?
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: Tons, that's why I'm T3
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: oh that proves alot
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: You're right
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: i dont understand what i did wrong ?
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: DUEL
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: solve it like men
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: as does your guilty until proven innocent logic
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: i know we had a problem multiplaying before, apparently someone using shell accounts... it got stopped
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: go set your firewall to ateam until proven guilty
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: ?
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: If a Borg ship started creating characters, would it be considered multiplaying?
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: It doesn't matter, resistance is futile
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: how many accts could you multiplay through tor before it got suspicious
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: you sure sound secure in your botting
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: I do! Thanks!
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: lasher must like anti-security measures to cater to your needs
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Then jail really wouldn't matter.  Just assimilate the imms and turn them into bots too.
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: I mean it took me an hour, but I wrote this nifty raid bot
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: It makes all your base belong to me
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: you couldn't raid doh by yourself or with your clan
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: some kind of leech that sucks onto the ass of others
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: oooo its on
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: Egads!  I feel insulted
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: You're right i can't raid
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: But I fail to see what that has to do with multiplaying and your paranoia about it
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i fail to see how anybody's deceived by your question tongue
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: kheftiu what was the question?
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: how stupid, programs don't exist, this this a program, nobody cheats here
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: that was random
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: Plenty of people cheat, I have faith in the imms to catch them
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: no need to make sure that i'm not running 200 players from my pc
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: i'm just too sm0rt
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: Can we actually talk about tech stuff here?  I doubt your ego is very technical.
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: imms seem to be idiots
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: this isn't WoW, people don't run arround with an army of 20 warlocks :p
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yaomiqui leaps on the zombie, and rips the mask off, revealing it is, in fact, just Kheftiu wearing a cunning disguise.
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: maybe you'll consider hiring somebody who's not as crooked as you
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: Why would I hire someone...
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: how are imms idiots?
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: would it be brave to say ' how are they not '  even though they really arent?
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: wow, vampiredude the newbie sure knows alot about the imms
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: must be another perl script
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: ...
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kheftiu Tech: at least i know most of this game is 1 person's self-deception
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: demon, speaking of perl, does my client take regexp too?
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: Who?
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: Who is the man behind the curtain, Kheftiu?
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Isn't reality a self-deception for everyone?
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude points excitedly at Dorothy!
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: demonspawn quit making oz references :P
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: does mccp still work through tor?
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: who can tell me how to get zmud's mapper to autoload on startup?
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: http://apple.slashdot.org/story/09/11/08/1411259/First-iPhone-Worm-Discovered-Rickrolls-Jailbroken-Phones
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: how truthful is that?
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: For you MacUsers...
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: For the third holiday season in a row, MacHeist is offering free applications for Mac computers, all of which normally would cost a pretty penny. Around 10% of Hiffers are on a Mac, so to those of you, enjoy! Currently, theyre offering the following pieces of software for free. Ive also included what theyd normally cost: ShoveBox  $25, WriteRoom  $25, Twitterrific  $15, TinyGrab  $14, Hordes of Orcs  $25, Mariner Write  $50, Virus Barrier  $70, Mariner Write will only become available if 500,000 total sign up before this round is over in the next three days. Virus Barrier is available only if you share MacHeist on your Facebook account. And finally, the Orc game is pretty darn fun, as the four hours of lost productivity yesterday can attest to.
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: runs out and spends $3000 on a new mac so he can get free software! :P
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: What, have viruses found their way to Aard?
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Yaomiqui: I did state beforehand: For you Macusers.' ;)
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: hehe
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yemblin Tech: can anyone tell me how to break commands in Connect text? using mushclient dont see it in its helpfile
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: huh?
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what do you mean by breaking commands?
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Command separator :P
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yemblin Tech: if i put more then one, it gives me invalid command when i login
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yemblin Tech: im trying to load seperate plugins
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: loading plugins isn't done by entering commands
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yemblin Tech: map/inw are loaded but dont show until i type them for me
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: sposed to be that way
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yemblin Tech: ya im trying to figure out how to break map and inw, i can type one in connect text but if i type a second one its unrecognized
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't need to type it at that point, the plugin is fully loaded
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: just make a trigger to send inw and map after your connected
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's no reason to
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: i know but he wants it
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, he thinks he wants it
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since he doesn't know why it's not showing/or showing after he types
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: I think he wants the windows to popup auto after connecting
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yemblin Tech: right blainer im looking at triggers now, thanks
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the windows will be wherever you tell them to be...typing map doesn't change that
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: when you first connect the map is hidden becasue the map script starts with a trigger from map output from the mud
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it shows the map when it is relevant
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: agreed
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BoogieMan Meka Tech: I have a scripting question. I'm just about finished a script that, among other things, averages exp per second after a kill, but it is rounding to whole numbers. Any suggestion on how to force that variable to contain tenths, hundredths, thousandths, etc.?
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that would depend on the client
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BoogieMan Meka Tech: apologies, Zmud 7.21
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: iirc there's a #FORMAT function
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BoogieMan Meka Tech: using the #MATH command atm to do the averaging
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BoogieMan Meka Tech: I'll check that, thanks
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coolname Tech: is there any reason to choose ms sql over mysql when developing in PHP, with apache running on windows server?
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're making it, no
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: only reason would be that it was a pre-made thing that was made to use mssql
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coolname Tech: I've never used mssql, but I've developed in mysql for 6/7 years with php
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: you stil lplay abelinc?
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coolname Tech: I've just never bothered to put it on a windows server
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: of course :-)
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oryn Tech: can depend on what you need, too - the ms sql licensing can get pretty spendy
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that would be a reason NOT to use it, not a reason to use it ;-)
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coolname Tech: yeah but that's a reason not to use ms sql :p lol.  I'm just wondering if there's anything it actually beats out mysql on
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: "ms" is short for a "messy" "mess" -- coincidence, likely not
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coolname Tech: I'm a total OSS freak but figured I'd explore options :p
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oryn Tech: that's what I was saying :) someplaces "require" ms sql, unless in a situation like that, screw ms sql
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pmage Tech: anyone good w/zmud mapper? want to create zones separately and import them into my master, but the file extensions are wrong.. wont import.
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: what version?
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pmage Tech: 7.21
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: the mapper changed when Zugg switched to ADO, circa 6.2x, so if you have a later version the entire map is technically one giant zone.
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pmage Tech: so probably not going to happen hmmf
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: someone might have access to Charbal's zone-thing, but unless you want to write your own version of that there's way to export/import specific zones
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pmage Tech: well you can still import but ya no export :(
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: 3.1x cmudders, is anyone using slow-walking?  I can't seem to get mine working.
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Not working right now. Read the forums. :P It may have been fixed in 3.12, but I don't use slow-walking.
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: works fine for me in 3.12
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Then it was fixed in 3.12. ;) Or maybe 3.11. :P
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: dammit, I don't wanna spend another evening trying to fix stuff... :(
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: I'm using tt++ with python for my scripts, how easy would it be to port them to other clients?
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: cmud probably wouldn't be TOO bad, but I'd assume you'd have to do everything by hand
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: it is, after all, based on tintin
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: No one regression tests anymore. I absolutely cannot believe the brakage I see in some major player releases. Sun's VirtualBox, e.g.
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: breakage
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: with the pressure to rush things out the door, I think your misspelling was more apropos.
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: most of the time when people have problems with slow walking its due to either Match Room Name at start of line option or the wait for prompt option in the config
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: lol, does cmud have spellcheck?
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Yes.
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: you are assuming regression testing is deemed important by the people programming... breaking things means you have to upgrade or gasp not use new features. with the licensing of only 2 years zugg must need a new cash injection.
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I don't tend to use it, though. :P
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: he actually hasn't activated the 2-year thing yet.
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: He has. He just hasn't made an actual public release of 3.xx yet. :)
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: any more advice about porting scripts, would it say be possible to use the same python part of the scripts with different cients, or are they different beasts completely?
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: i want a droid
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: me too
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Global Menace Tech: f my 3gs
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: I want to name it r2d2
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: anyone using cmud have any tips for keeping the map location accurate as you go into vidblain?
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: My normal tip:  don't fail.
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: I was being helped create a script, and long story short, when I had a trigger to clandonate the variable it tells me that I have to clandonate [amount] or clandonate all.  I made sure the variable and the "clandonate <variable>" were the same name.  Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong?
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pmage Tech: add the @?
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: I did that also, sorry
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: The variable name is "goldthislevel" and I have "clandonate @goldthislevel" as the output for the trigger, I am also using mushclient.
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pmage Tech: dono mush sowwy 
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: Hmm, anyone online that can help me?
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: local donate == @goldthislevel\n send ("clandonate donate")?
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: err only one =
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: That /might/ work, but i haven't used mush in a while.
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: If it is a MUSHclient variable, then it would be:  Send( "clandonate "..GetVariable( goldthislevel ) )
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: Hold on a few minutes and I will tell you the whole line of text that is written.
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Nod, i think balaam's way would be more effective.
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: Back to my problem:  I have the clandonate line set up like:  Send ("clandonate oldthislevel")
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: Make that Send ("clandonate @goldthislevel")
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: do what Balaam said
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Nod, Balaam already answered
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: ariable_name only works outside quotes otherwise it's just a string
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: \ariable_name only works outside quotes otherwise it's just a string
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: @variable_name only works outside quotes otherwise it's just a string
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: double the @s
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: got it sorry
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Just ignore that there is a @varname and life will be easier.  :p
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: Ok, thanks
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: I now have this error:  Run-time error; World: Aardwolf; Immediate execution; [string "Trigger: "]:1: bad argument #1 to 'GetVariable' (string expected, got nil); stack traceback:; [C]: in function 'GetVariable'; [string "Trigger: "]:1: in main chunk
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: Any suggestions?
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: send something to GetVariable.
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: check your GetVariable("var_name") has the correct var_name
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iyethar Tech: try either Send("clandonate " .. @goldthislevel) or Send("clandonate " .. GetVariable("goldthislevel"))
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: I have the correct variable in the format he gave me, but it sends that error when I level
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Sorry, forgot quotes.  Send( "clandonate "..GetVariable( "goldthislevel" ) or 0 )
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: bah, "clandonate -100000" didn't work.
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: Lol
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: I get the error:  [string "Trigger: "]:2: ')' expected (to close '(' at line 1) near 'SetVariable'
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: When I used your updated format
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: no SetVariable in it
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iyethar Tech: You've probably got one of the parens inside quotes or something.
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: still my mistake.  Need better parenthesis.  Send( "foo "..( GetVariable( "goldthislevel" ) or 0 ) )
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: the "or 0" was triggering on a wonky spot.
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: It still sent the same error
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: and that made error near SetVariable?
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: erm... and I had a "foo" in there to test it.  That line works.  Don't know about the rest of the script.
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: So take the foo out?
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: change "foo" to "clandonate"
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: as I did not want to ruin my nice, round number for clan donations by testing things.
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: Ok :-P
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: And yet again, it sends the same error
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: Can you tell me why you would need the " or 0 )" part in there?
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: post what you have to the General forum on gammon.com.au would be *a lot* easier
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: will get a quick answer
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: From what I see, the variables are not matching up, or they line that is sending isn't correct.  Because the script does what it needs to, it's just when it gets to the end and tries to clandonate the amount, it tells me that it is an invalid clandonate command.
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: (GetVariable("gold") or 0) means if GetVariable returns nil use 0 instead
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: i want a droid!
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: Ok, thanks everyone
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: one of my friends picked one up last weekend.  They're heavy, but really nice.
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: i dont like phones that feel like ima break them
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Neither do I.  That's why I've encased my phone in rubber.
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: hehe
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: i prefer the candybar phones over flip phones for htat reason
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i have a g1 i get the best of both worlds travis :P
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: i was about to buy a blackberry until i heard about the android 2 phones
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: For some reason I can't post anything on that website you refered me to earlier.
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: However, I was fiddling with it and got the error message down to saying:  Compile error; World: Aardwolf; Immediate execution; [string "Trigger: "]:1: ')' expected near '('.  With the line saying:  Send("clandonate"(GetVariable("goldthislevel").  Is there some fix for this that I don't know about?
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Yes, learning Lua before using it...
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You stare at Iron Duck Chuft as he screams something about a MOOSE to Blessed Balaam.
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Send( "clandonate "..( GetVariable( "goldthislevel" ) or 0 ) )
T1/r7/2009-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I learened moose very well before "using" it, thank you very much.
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: damn you newegg, why are you not selling these
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16811997201
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: damn, that was a pain to get working
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: A low-pass filter could be easily built by just adding a small capacitor in parallel. What about high-pass filters, how do they work?
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Computer-wise, what do you guys use to play podcasts? Looking for good, non-bloatware podcast software.
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: i use winamp but catch them with juice
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: juice is accessible and works. pretty well.
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus goes, "Hmmmm."
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Google reader + winamp
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: is there a command similar to #WAIT for tintin?
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yes.
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: Do you know what it is?
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Hehe. Funny rant about Haskell: http://www.xent.com/pipermail/fork/Week-of-Mon-20070219/044101.html
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: lemme look..
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Charneus, mplayer
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: #delay
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Stranton, #delay
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: awesome, thanks
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus looks at Cizra and goes "Hmmmm."
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: apparently i'm freaking blind btw...
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Didn't think about that one.
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: http://xkcd.com/644/
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Gotta love it.
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mowseykin Tech: Can anyone help me with this zMUD script?  The first variable expands in the trigger but the second one doesn't: #TRIGGER {^<mp_repop_msg>$} {repopmsg <mp_repop_area>} {Repops|RepopMessages}
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mowseykin Tech: err..
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mowseykin Tech: #TRIGGER {^<mp_repop_msg>$} {repopmsg <mp_repop_area>} {Repops|RepopMessages}
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mowseykin Tech: Sorry for the spam #TRIGGER {^<@tmp_repop_msg>$} {repopmsg <@tmp_repop_area>} {Repops|RepopMessages}
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: is the 2nd variable null or not defined 
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: does the alias repopmag use the 2nd variable
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mowseykin Tech: Well when the trigger is created, it tries to use the variable but I want it to use what the variable was when I created it so it's static
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mowseykin Tech: Like if the first variable's value was abc and the second one was def, I want a trigger created that would be "^abc$" and performs "repopmsg def"
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: mac os 10.4 is miserable
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Try cheering it up.  Buy it some flowers.
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: guy who brought his macbook with it on to me was a twat too, can't i just shoot them both?
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: is the <> of <rea> in case rea contains def ghi
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: is the <> of <@area> in case @area contains def ghi
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mowseykin Tech: I thought the <> was supposed to expand the variable before it creates the trigger
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: in that case, remove the second <>
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mowseykin Tech: If the variable has spaces that's already handled
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mowseykin Tech: Hmm, that just ends up with the same thing
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: input to an alias with a variable the contains data with spaces may or may not look at the data as one or more parameters -- unsure, been awhile
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mowseykin Tech: It's not really that part that's the problem, I'm trying to get both variables to expand before the trigger is created
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i'm confused - i was told that with windows 7 you HAD to buy a copy of windows based upon the country you live in
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: bought the british one, has all the worldwide language options on it exactly like vista and xp did, so what lies was that?
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: First you have to sign away your first born and agree to five minutes alone with the devil in that barn over there
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: But I didn't hear that other thing
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: It really shouldn't matter what country you live in... people move all the time. Why should I buy a European version if I'm just visiting for three months? :P
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: but then again they me be trying some kind of new anti-piracy stuff!
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: may be, rather
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Charneus: So that you have to buy it again in three months, of course!
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: They figure they can't get more people to buy it, so they resorted to the next-best thing: get people to buy it more :P
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Heh. Speaking of Microsoft... people are saying that the new Microsoft Security Essentials (I think that's what it is) is comparable to Kapersky and Symantec and is pretty good... That scares me. :\
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i think more likely someone was fibbing
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i'm usually a supporter of MS, but them having a security package scares me
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods.
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: not that Apple can talk, what with all those hacked iphones of late
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: those phones were jailbroken
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and using default passwords
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you mean their owners were stupid and not following best practices?
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: actually, ms and apple products have the same main attack vector - flash
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: sounds suspiciously similar to what people do with their windows pc's then blame microsoft for them getting infected
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nobody's talking aboot adobe screwing up tho
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: gqc
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: mis
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keegahn Tech: anybody here able to help me figure out why portal wont play one of the muds that I want to play?
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: ...
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: is it this mud? :p
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon walks into a very upscale restaurant and asks for a ride to Macdonald's.
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keegahn Tech: im trying to get darkwinds to play and sign up and start a new name, and it keeps shutting down portal
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: a lift to work, oladon?
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: how can I keep the map always on top of the main window?
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: on mushclient
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: don't think you can
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: unless you use a miniwindow?
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Benevolent Kyroda Tech: anyone know if a netbook could handle cmud sufficiently?
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhAt Ninja Wereturtle Tech: for sure
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: Why wouldn't it?
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Benevolent Kyroda Tech: well with mapper running it can be slow if im running pwoer saver on my laptop
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Benevolent Kyroda Tech: so not sure how a netbook would handle
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: how old is your laptop?
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Benevolent Kyroda Tech: 1year
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Benevolent Kyroda Tech: 4gigs ram dual 1.66
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: wow, you must be running vista :(
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Benevolent Kyroda Tech: yeah lol
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: how do I keep the bigmap from coming up everyime I type look?
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: bigmap?
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: wtf?
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: on mushclient...
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, no idea
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tenlorn smiles happily.
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: disable the bigmap plugin?
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emir Icebergovich Tech: something popped up for me the other day, and I can't get it back now :S
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emir Icebergovich Tech: is there any way to check for hardware updates in Win 7 automatically?
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oryn Tech: buy a mac?
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emir Icebergovich Tech: line 2 was supposed to come before line 1 :P
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: hmm, i will have to ask around.
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emir Icebergovich Tech: no thanks, I wanna use my computer for what I want
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: hahahaha
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oryn Tech: heh
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emir Icebergovich Tech: I think I found it
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Ok. I have to say I'm pretty impressed with Microsoft Security Essentials already.
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: why
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I hardly notice it's there, it's pretty quick, doesn't slow down my system any...
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Running live scans, and it's only taking up 2MB of RAM.
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Running a quick scan now, and it's got a 3.3MB footprint.
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: is that good?
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Well, I haven't compared it to other a/vs, but I'd say it's better than most.
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Like I said, no system slowdown for me, and I have a less than average system.
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: And final result: less than 2 minutes to run a quick scan on over 35k files.
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: doesn't really help if it lets virii thruogh
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods.
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: True. It's caught the couple that I downloaded for my own purposes, though.
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: And reviews still say it's comparable to leading anti-virus scanners.
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: need windows 7?
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Don't think so. You do need a genuine copy, though.
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: free AV from MS is gotta hurt Norton and the like
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: They are friggin' bawling.
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: they've been planning this for years
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: lol, MS was their cash cow for years
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Tey planned your mom for years, and she was still a fiasco.
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Err, I mean...
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Starling coughs loudly.
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: and to think i stuck up for you....
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I was kidding!
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: no no, it's ok, i'll remember it
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: how many years is 1598 days?
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: 1598/365.25   go.
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: look at the line above where it says days ;-)
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: What? number of days divided by number of days per year give years
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: number of days in 4ish years, +1 for leap ?
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: So... juice is ok for podcasts, I suppose. I'm really wanting something that will stream the podcast instead of downloading it, unless I choose to download it manually. :\
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: BerryTunes for Blackberry does that... and I love it. I just can't rely on a good connection at times.
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: (As far as blackberry vs. cable connection with computer)
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: In mushclient, for some reason, the tab buttons that you can click on to open your trigger screen, aliases, etc. dissapeared from my mushclient screen.  Is there any way to get them to display back under the "file  edit  view (etc.)" like they normally did before?
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: Ah, nevermind, I got it fixed now...
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: anyone know if there is an easy way to figure out a font being used in an image?
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: yup, ask someone who is familiar with that font
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: LOL :) 
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: maybe using something similar to those adobe to text filters
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: they might just convert to one font though
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: hmmm never thought of that, though never messed any of them :0
T1/r7/2009-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: will check it out thanks
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: "## You start to feel hungry." is the first hunger message, yeah?
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: python
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kandiis Tech: Hello.. anyone evaluated google's google wave?
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: I've heard of it, but I'm not much of an early adapter, so I know nothing about it
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: wonder why vista takes so freaking long to defrag a hdd
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: because it's shit
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: because its vista...
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: sorry, did you say frag, or defrag?
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: executive software's disk defrag is far mor thorough and faster
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: its also a british company
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: or perhaps it's the quality of your hard drive, as usual
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: won't use it cos it's not my pc and it's a once off
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: speaking of which, anyone want to recommend good brands for SSDs?
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: guess not. ;)
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: ahh, thats why this lappie was going to godawful slow, defrag was running as a background task every wednesday
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krax Tech: -l 50
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micoaya Tech: I have a nice script that I used with another client that was made for a different game, Its written in a form of Jscript that is very simple, however when I look up converting Jscript to Lua this type of Jscript is not what comes up, would someone like to look at this for me?
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micoaya Tech: I would like to use the MUSHclient but im having trouble getting my trigs over and whatnot.
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: can't you keep using the jscript version?
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i thought mush had support for that
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micoaya Tech: It has support for the form of jscript that goes? #act {^CLAN ANNOUNCEMENT: %1}{#output {b yellow, black}{CLAN ANNOUNCEMENT: $1}}
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micoaya Tech: Thats not the Jscript its supporting..
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micoaya Tech: Ive been all over the place looking.
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micoaya Tech: No go?
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micoaya Tech: Okay.. I downloaded the mccp how do I get it to work? Its not connecting through the way it use to?
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: zmud has it build in
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: what client are you using
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micoaya Tech: Is their a special way I need to extract it
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micoaya Tech: jmc
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: what's jmc
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micoaya Tech: stupid.
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: why are you using it
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micoaya Tech: It was made for another mud
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: why aren't you playing poker with me
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micoaya Tech: Also, After re-newing my computer im getting this error.
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micoaya Tech: The instruction at "0x00000001" referenced memory at "0x00000001". The memory could not be "read".
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micoaya Tech: Its Acrobat IEHelper: iexplore.exe - application error
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micoaya Tech: anyone know how to fix it?
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Married Xantcha Tech: there's your problem, don't use IE
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: uninstall anything to do with adobe and reinstall
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micoaya Tech: I have a problem coming up right after it that says the same thing but its iedw.exe
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: and also there's nothing wrong with ie
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micoaya Tech: Could that be why mccp isnt working?
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: no
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nothing wrong with ie? there's nothing right with it either :P
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: works fine for me
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: actually displays webpages properly, which is more than can be said for firefox
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i find it's lack of functionality disturbing
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micoaya Tech: now im getting rundll32.exe, same error
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: properly?
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: your right thought, ie doesn't make toast or do the shopping or walk the dog. Dreadful lack of functionality for a web browser
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'd be happy with scriptmonkey, adblock and noscript
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: all things that normal browsing doesn't require
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: these are must-have for me, not normal
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you're not normal then
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i guess i'm a weirdo
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: yep
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: enjoy your xss attacks :P
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: heh, I have my browsers set to request acceptance of cookies - which I normally reject - what does that make ME? :P
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: doubt i'll get those from the bbc website
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you'd be suprised
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micoaya Tech: How do you edit the mcclient.cfig file? Which one is that? Nothings named cfig =(
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i can't answer that without breaching channel language guidelines, TG
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: which therefore implies that this channel is not standards-compliant
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: the art of discussion is being able to word things nicely ;)
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: or your question isn't
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: then ignore it ?
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: then we'd have to install a new channel
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Eh, TG cursed once on tech, does that mean everybody gets one? ;)
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: the "AskFarkyssDirectly" channel? that's what tells are for ain't ey?
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: cslite is great for cookies, tg
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: no, starling, TG's -allowed- to
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: and no, IMMs respect the same channel rules as mortals.
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: heh
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: good, well let's not mention the war
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hmm. 18 addons installed on my ff
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: everyone slips sometimes, not like mistakes aren't made by everyone :)
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Tech is slightly more layed back, since tech issues can be frustrating, but everyone makes mistakes and are forgiven.
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: that's what she said
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: have you put that moose head up yet?
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Chico: No, it's not. The same can be said about gossip, answer, question, and any other channel. Answer/question can be very frutrating at times. ;)
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: this mobile phone is garbage
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: your face is garbage
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: your trash is garbage
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: doesn't matter where on the phone you move the jpg files, they still don't show up when you browse the contents on your pc
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: 'pathetic'
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I hate that I have to install RealTek in order to get Stereo Mix as an option. *sigh*
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: how dare you have to install a manufacturers drivers to gain access to some of the it's soundcard's features
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: oh the humanity!
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I've had nothing but problems with RealTek, such as the continual reloading of audio devices when I unplug something. :P
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: turn off the autosense facility
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I had done that in the past, I think. Hmm.
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I suppose I'll take another look at it. UltimateTroubleshooter says that it's a 'dangerous' application. :P Then again, it says the same thing for Nvidia.
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Just great. Can't install RealTek because the drivers aren't signed, and apparently clicking 'Install driver anyway' doesn't want to work today.
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: almost certainly the wrong driver then
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Hmmm.
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: is there any good reason windows search doesn't recognize m4a as audio ?
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: is m4a associated with a player?
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: Apple lossless I believe
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: no, that's AAC. hrm
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: assuming it's just not an issue of old technology versus new, it's probably looking at file associations
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crepuscule Tech: what commands in mushmud for put only tell in chat window ?
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: the chat uses triggers in the plugin file to direct *all* chat to the chat window. You'll need to edit the plugin file and change the triggers.
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crepuscule Tech: edit in repertory chat plugin?
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crepuscule Tech: okay try, thank you!
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhAt Ninja Wereturtle Tech: newbie question for mushclient... is there any way to get the command I just typed to remain in the command bar? like it does by default in zmud
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: under input/command put a checkmark beside "Auto-repeat Command"
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jabawaba Tech: Is there a way to make like hotbuttons to use abilities/cast spells with the MUSHClient?
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crepuscule Tech: it too hard I can't moditify chat.xml for only write tell in window :(
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: search the forums at gammon.com.au there is a plugin to make a command button bar somewhere
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhAt Ninja Wereturtle Tech: ahh, thx yaomiqui! (was in a different window)
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: Crepuscule: http://mushclient.com/scripting
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crepuscule Tech: okay thank you I look
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: tech is anyone familiar with the tracker and spellup scripts for cmud?
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Phalae peers around herself intently.
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhAt Ninja Wereturtle Tech: in MUSHclient, when I resize map and stats windows it opens up a text box as part of the window. anyway to stop this from happening or get rid of it once it has?
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhAt Ninja Wereturtle Tech: whenever mushclient saves the world, I am getting a message that access is denied (and I assume it is not saving). Any ideas on how to fix this?
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Turn UAC off
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: windows vista or window 7?
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: YOu're on vista i assume, right?
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhAt Ninja Wereturtle Tech: yea, vista
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: go to control panel > users > click on "User account control"
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhAt Ninja Wereturtle Tech: more nub mushclient questions... anyway to stop the bigmap window from closing when I go to aardhotel or similar areas?
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: it closes now? I thought it got stuck on all the time
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhAt Ninja Wereturtle Tech: yea, keeps closing when I go to aardhotel
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: you'll need to look at the plugin file and find the WindowShow(win, false) and change it to true, that *should* work
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: thats the easy but bad way to do it
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhAt Ninja Wereturtle Tech: heh, good enuff for me for now
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: if you find more than one WindowShow's than let me know
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhAt Ninja Wereturtle Tech: heh, so far I can't even find the plugin file :P
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: the file location is in the file -> plugins dialog
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhAt Ninja Wereturtle Tech: thx for the help blainer. I downloaded the newer bigmap file off the forums and your fix seems to be working :)
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Anyone know what would cause a game installation to tell me that I don't have enough RAM, even though I have 4 gigs?
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: 4gigs total, or left?
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Total, and it's Red Alert 2.. so it's a pretty old game
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yemblin Tech: anyone can help me setup a kick trigger? I'm trying to send kick out when the Fighting prompt comes up but I am obviously doing something wrong. Using Mush and the help file is confusing me.
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: if you just do bprompt, you'll be spammed off the mud
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: this is my trig
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: if (GetVariable("autocontrol") == "1") then/if (GetVariable("autocast") == "1") then/SetOption ("display_my_input", 0)/Send (GetVariable("spellcast"))/SetOption ("display_my_input", 1)/SetVariable("autocast", "0")/end/end
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: / = carriage return
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: \cr = carriage return in tt and zscript
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yemblin Tech: wow thats way over my head lol
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: he's using mush :P
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: yeah for a simple trig use weapon rounds
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: kinda sloppy but it works
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: autokick or autocast triggers are legal at the start of a fight ?
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: if they engage combat... illegal, if they cast once already in battle to finish fight, fine
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Even that's questionable, too, as if you leave the keyboard and you're still automatically fighting... ;)
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yemblin Tech: ya i got a tell, i guess i just wont risk it
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: well yeah, don't wanna do afk in an aggro area
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah, it's fine because once the fight's over you're clear...going afk in an aggro room is illegal though
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods.
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: similarly, autoheal is fine as long as you're not going afk in aggro
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: It's all in the context of how you use it, really. Many 'bots' can be legal, but there is a line that you can cross to make it not legal.
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: basically if you use a trig to engage combat, it's too far
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yemblin Tech: ok, so if I am trying to do a trigger to kick when already in combat its fine? thats all I'm looking for
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods.
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iyethar Tech: Of course, you can leave the keyboard and automatically fight without any scripts or triggers... you'll just be fighting pretty inefficiently.
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Beware, however, that such triggers have a tendency to just spam mindlessly.
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Oh, and send commands to the MUD like if (botarea=1) {runto area2} {runto area3} ;)
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Er, don't send.
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: one downside of a trig to keep kicking is that you may end up in a fight over your head and want to flee
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: yeah that can be solved with an if statement :)
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: so you can turn it off
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iyethar Tech: One to watch out for is having a trig that automatically heals you when you drop below a certain hp percentage - it might seem like no big deal, but what if you're sitting in a room with aggro mobs?  you'll automatically fight them all every time they repop.
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Nod, #if {"$autocombat" == "yes"} {do attack} {#nop}
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Usually some status variables, also.  Which need triggers to set/change said variables, and so it goes.
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Chico: You changed it from having the word 'bot' in it? ;)
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Iythar: that has been deemed illegal
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iyethar Tech: That's what I'm saying.
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: That was never the "bot script"
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: yeah best just to use a heal alias
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Autoheals aren't illegal, actually. They're borderline. ;)
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Sitting in an aggro room with autoheal is what will get you in trouble.
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: if you go afk in an aggro room and die, better then getting in trouble for botting :)
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the autoheal trigger is perfectly legal...sitting in the aggro room is the illegal part
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: I use a combo of autoheal and auto mana in combat, i will remove them the second an imm tell me too also.
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Which is easy enough to not do.  How many aggros in my levelling route?  Not many.  Find a route that excludes them.
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: help botting used to explicitly talk about autoheal trigs being legal
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Yep.
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and that was before they relaxed the botting rules
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: But, it has been mentioned (by Timeghost) that is still is borderline, though legal.
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yaomiqui nods.
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: nod, that was legal when botting spellup wasn't
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nothing borderline about it, tG is full of it :P
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: "Borderline" is ultimately resolved to legal or !legal, in any case.
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: "Borderline" is just a synonym for "has not been considered in depth"
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riazin Tech: anyone here knows about some siple spellup script for zmud?
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riazin Tech: err. simple even
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: help spellup?
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riazin Tech: thats what i meant, ty!
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhAt Ninja Wereturtle Tech: in mushclient is there anyway to set a particular window so that it is always in the foreground?
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: no
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: you can only overlap with mini-windows
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhAt Ninja Wereturtle Tech: kk, thx :)
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: i'm running at 1024x768 and i have the map on the top right corner, still leaves enough room for main window
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: might need to adjust the font if running lower res
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I even have enough room for the map in the upper right hand corner on my netbook.
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: typing initaard tries to set the windows up with size & font appropriate for your resolution
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: yeah, i ended making the font bigger...
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: thing we need now is something to fill the blank space with
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhAt Ninja Wereturtle Tech: map is fine, what I was trying to do was create a window that would list cp or gq targets and keep it in the foreground. I`ll probably just end up outputting it to a notepad
T1/r7/2009-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: a 1280 x 1024 provides more screen than the 40% smaller 1024 x 768  
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: MUSH Time to tick counter stuck on 30 again. Anybody know how to fix that short of killing and restarting the app?
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yiminy Tech: anyone up for a newb mush question or two?
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: if it is "my internet won't print", then no.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhAt Ninja Wereturtle Tech: if I can help, Im pretty new to it
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yiminy Tech: lol, nope, simpler even than that
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yiminy Tech: say i want to make a simple alias to retrieve *item x* from my bag, then eat it... or what ever....how is that done?
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yiminy Tech: where "item x" is variable
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbtopic_id=120  <-- This is the "getting started" section of the forums.  There is a video on how to make aliases.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yiminy Tech: .*wishes zmud 6.x was free :(
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhAt Ninja Wereturtle Tech: menu game - configure - aliases. click on add. name is the text you will type, enter commands you want to execute
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: But pretty much, for something like that, you would make an alias match "geteat *" and enter the commands in the "send" field.  "get %1 bagname" "eat %1"  without quotes, and each on a separate line.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yiminy Tech: yay! i have one(1) working alias. w00t!
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: awesome.  Now make 34546 more!
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yiminy Tech: i can now do things liiiike... eat *, and quaf *, and....recite *... wait i dont have the scroll skill...
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yiminy Tech: ok a tougher one... how do i make the world map STOP showing up every time i use the "look" command?
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhAt Ninja Wereturtle Tech: do you not want the world map at all?
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: type "automap"  or download the map plugin.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yiminy Tech: apparently 1280x800 resolution is enough for all the mush windows to display properly or something
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I would recommend getting Aardwolf_Map_v2 from the MUSHclient site.  It's quite nice.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: ANyone know how to force cmud mapper to move the blue dot in a direction to manually create a room?
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: doesn't the blue dot mean you're pregnant?
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: not in cmud it doesnt :)
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: I think Ebay should be closed down
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i think aboot nekkid girls sometimes
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Cogito ergo sum
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silvarius Tech: Will the game's console run in Ubuntu instead of Gnome-mud? Curious before I bother trying to use it...
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: What console do you mean, Silvarius?
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silvarius Tech: the one off of aardwolf's website
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: The Flash client, you mean?
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silvarius Tech: oh is it a flash client? I just know I dont like the gnome-mud 
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Erm
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Depends on which one :P
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Are you referring to MUSHclient?
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silvarius Tech: limme check which Im talking about =P
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: It's either the Flash or the Java one that's on the site. If you downloaded it, then it's the MUSHclient.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silvarius Tech: aye the MUSH client just checked. 
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silvarius Tech: Will it run without issue in Ubuntu? 
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: I've heard of people having success running it under WINE.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silvarius Tech: worth a shot then. Thanks Oladon
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Personally I recommend TinyFugue
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: But there's no GUI :P
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i recomment oladon on a stick, best mudding client ever
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silvarius Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fierre Tech: Consider giving Mudlet a try too if you're on Ubuntu and not liking Gnome MUD
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Personally, I'm very fond of tt++. It's got no buttons, but it's highly extensible.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: yep.  I use tintin++ as well.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fierre Tech: Oh definitely so, tt++ is awesome. As far as GUI clients go, though, Mudlet's one of the better options in Linux atm, IMVHO.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silvarius Tech: runs fine.. A little laggy... but fine..
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silvarius Tech: now to find where to change font size... lol
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: I believe it's under Settings->world->output
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: how do you change it on the mushclient to see the music channel preface?
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: chantags
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: or something like that
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: what's the syntax?
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: not really sure clientside, I don't use mushclient
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: wasn't the aardmush client buggy with music and barter or something ? iirc there's a fix for it somewhere, maybe on fiendish's site ?
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hmm. any way i can count the lines of a grep output easily?
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: yeah | wc -l
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or just grep -c
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: cheers
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: I use CMUD. The ------- that separates areas in score and identify, etc, no longer show up. Any ideas as to how to fix this?
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: phalae, first try turning off all trigs using the gun icon in the bottom right...if that gets them to show up again, turn trigs back on, then go into your trigs settings and turn trigs off by folders...binary method of finding...disable the top half, see if it works, switch to bottom half if the issue isn't in the top half...switch to the top quarter if the issue is in the top half
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you've got a sub or a gag somewhere
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: wow youre good, the trigger thing fixed it - will go into the folders now
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you've added a script recently, can try disabling that one before going the whole binary route as well ;-)
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: i havent added one but i kind of broke one in the past few days
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: Got it, thanks muchly!
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus is psychic and solves problems through tells. :D
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Phalae noddles her head in agreement.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: Charneus is amazing. I guess it helps that he wrote the script I broke(ish)
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus chuckles politely.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: does aardwolf handle 64-bit numbers or does it impose a smaller limit?
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: with python you can calculate in 6400 bit numbers
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: right, but if aardwolf doesn't go to 64 then I don't need to worry about storing numbers that are too big for what I'm using (cmud)
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: it more than likely runs on a dual xeon processor or something
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Not that that much matters  :p
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: I'm pretty sure at least gold balances exceed the capacity of a 32 bit int, so I presume there are a number of attributes stored in 64.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aeraphir Tech: how do i set which text appears in the main window?
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all text appears in the main window unless you tell it otherwise
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aeraphir Tech: how do i make it stop?
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for MUSHclient's shipped chats capture script, type "chats echo off"
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aeraphir Tech: but it will still go to the chat window, correct?
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aeraphir Tech: awesome. thanks.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-)
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aeraphir Tech: i'd also like to edit the colors of the channels if that's possible
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: help colorset for changing channel colors
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Abe, you're high.  You're supposed to dispute anything I say purely on principle
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aeraphir Tech: sweet. thanks
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Starling: No hes not.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Why have you failed in your trust? :(
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You giggle in his presence.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: how do u get a disk iamge?
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: image*
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: With a camera
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Use Norton Ghost? :P
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Or Clonezilla
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: Are emulators hard to make?
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: If you have to ask, probably.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Are you talking about CD images, or HDD images? CD/DVD images, you can use things like PowerISO or UltraISO.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: I think CD images 
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Yeah... since you don't even know what you're talking about... you're gonna be lost throughout the entire thing.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: What do yall think is better limewire or bit torrent
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rithlin Tech: Torrents.....
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: torrents
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: is there any way to get a burn (from leaving it on to long) out your TV?
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Happens all the time.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: The CRT will eventually burn out due to sputtering of the cathodes.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Especially on the older tvs.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: The phosphors are susceptible to degradation, etc.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: umm.. Starling i'm only 14
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: I don't know what your saying
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Look it up?
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: There's always a dictionary.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: T.T no internet
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: You're on the internet now. ;)
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Illiden: You're on a mud. Which is on the internet.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Oh, are you Mxitarding it this evening?
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: but my internet explorer says Cannot find server
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: IE sucks.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}C= Amigan Tech: What's wrong with your copy of IE Illiden?
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}C= Amigan Tech: Ah ok
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Flush dns, for starters. Stop downloading viruses secondly. Thirdly, tell your mommy and daddy to put parental locks on your computer. :P
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Yep, seems junior's been hitting the pr0n sites ;)
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: when i type something in the address bar the either send or receive bar (ConfigFree shows me 2 bars, one orange the other blue) goes down and I can't use internet
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Installing toolbars is bad, mmmkay?
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: awww, to I have to stop looking at porn?
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: No, just look at it using a browser that doesn't suck, e.g. Firefox :P
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Update anti-virus, etc.  You just have to cover your bases.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: Config free comes with toshiba i think
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Do a virus scan. Watch how many viruses/malware it comes up with. :D
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: C= Amigan nods.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: ok, i'll tell yall how many I have
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Download some anti-virus that doesn't suck :P
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: I have to renew my trend micro internet security
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: any recommned anti-virus?
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: nvm, my internet isn't working
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: is it illeagal to hack games? Do yall mind if I keep asking questions, I have alot of 'em
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: Yes.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: no, usually u get an account ban, if online games u mean
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: The word 'hack' should be an indication. :)
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: as long as u dont hack ther server/webpage directly u wont be in trouble
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Keep in mind we don't discuss illegal things here. :)
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: oh
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: well is it legal to hack games? ^.^
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Not if it violates the EULA.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: When you said you were 14, you weren't stating your IQ, were you?
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: no, a lot of mmorpgs have people trying to hack and cheat in them, usually u get an account ban, rarely u get someone stupid enough to hack their server/webpage
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Not that I give a rat's ass about their EULA's or the ridiculous terms and restrictions contained therein, but nonetheless, it's still illegal.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Xzx, just because people try it doesn't make it any more legal.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: No, when I said I was 14 I was only stating my age. My IQ is lower =]
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: yes, which usually they get an account ban or blocked ip
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: That's like saying 'Speeding isn't illegal. You just usually get a fine.'
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It's illegal to hack MMORPG's; the only reason they ban you rather than press charges is because it's a lot cheaper to just ban an account than pay lawyer/court fees to sue you.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: or sometimes people crash the game servers to try to dupe items
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: If there's a negative consequence to an action, it's usually illegal to do that action. :)
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Plus, they know you'll just go out and buy another $40 copy of the game anyway.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: actually most pepole try out their hacking on free to play games, so even if ban no big deal
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It's still against the EULA/ToS though.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: but for hacking, u need to know assembly lanugage, and some packet editing
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon snickers softly.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Charneus: Not always. Running full speed in to a brick wall isn't illegal, but you'll certainly get a headache
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: It is if the wall isn't yours and you damage it.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A bright, shiny gold halo appears over Apprentice Oladon's head.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus enthusiastically high-fives Apprentice Oladon!
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: True story, you'll be sued for damaging that wall.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Civil suit.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Illegal != criminal
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Me > You
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: hmmm i dont think companies press charges unless u directly hack their server or webpage
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Your mom's mass > the Andromeda Galaxy's mass, including the masses of its satellites.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No person attacks
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: personal
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: hmm even if u hack their game database to like make a game master account, i dont think they do anything to u
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Xzx, if you attempt to hack the gibson they won't press charges - they'll send hired goons to kill you.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: well, the best way to practice your hacking skills is to practice on so called open betagames
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: dont worry, i used to hack /cheat on open beta games using debugged and packet editing ut not that skilled enough to rewrite assembly codes to to do sql injection hehe
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No, the best way to practice hacking is to delete your system32 folder
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I tried that but it didn't work :(
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It just made my computer stop working, help plz
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Starling: You successfully hax0rd your megahurtz
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: oh noes, I don't seem to have that folder at all
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I guess :(
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: well, go buy a or borrow a book on x86 assembly, learn the basics, then learn likeor read a bit on hacking forums should be good at cheating in online mmoorpgs :P
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: ~(~0>>2)
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: i tried deleting my windows folder and it wouldn't let me
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Illiden: Some viruses can be persistant
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: but it was at school
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: so i guess it wasn't my windows folder
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: hmm u know to do know what difference between packet editing, memory changers like cheat engine, t search etc and read about different types of hacking tools oh yeah need to learn how to disable the auto update from games and load the game using a debugger
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I hear that lighting your PC on fire will often stop viruses in their tracks.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You need to learn to hack the gibson, I'm telling you
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: I've always wondered how cheat engine freezes values
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: i hear packing your box with magnetite'll vaccinate it
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus bets Xzx is just a script-kiddie anyway.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Nods, Starling. THey call that method a "firewall"
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: btw need to learn how to find the encrption algorithm then can directly packet edit
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: That does, in fact, make sense!
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon goes "WHEE!" and dances around Starling.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: i've got it all figured out! xzx == Bob
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: i just used to cheat in mmorpgs :P
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: when u play mmorpgs long enough u use bot and cheat hack whatever hehe
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Great! So we can expect you to bot here and get yourself nuked?!
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasyrn Tech: but...don't you want to play the games?
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: If you have a modded Xbox360 and clone a game can you hack that game and play it on your 360?
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Getting nuked is no big deal, just log on your alt and forget about it
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: umm yeah but its a bit more fun when have a little advantage plus a lot actually cheat in mmorpgs now, most try to get free bots to use to lvl etc
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No they don't, Xzx.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: thats why u practice in free to play games with item malls get ban create a new acc
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Oladon, can you jail Xzx? He's obviously an at-risk character for botting.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: at risk character
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: best to try in open beta games mmorpgs usually got a lot of exploits or hacks u can do
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: that's good
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: why don't you start nuking at risks too
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Xzx: Its better to start with fbi.gov
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: PREEMPTIVE NUKE
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: lol i dont play the mud i just use raw telnet to play i mean chat
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus grins evilly at Ramier.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: HACK THE PLANETTTTT
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: cult of the dead cow was cool till it sucked
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: now they're a bunch of microturds
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: FREE MITNICK
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It's fun to have an advantage in pvp, but I always preferred to earn it myself.  Odd how that works.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: no you're just afraid of nukes
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: let the fear in
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: hehe once i played a mmorpgs named scions of fate with 70% using the free bots or using hacks still played a bit until i broke all my items upgrading hehe and i didnt cheat in it :P
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Was having endgame enchantments on my level 29 paladin fair?  No idea, but getting them didn't require any hacking or extra-legal methods :P
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Go to bed, Ramier.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: yeah if im going to play a game i rather, they dont have open free bots or a lot of hacks 
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: dont really want to go into the cheating route :P
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Xzx prefers spamming to cheating these days
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: I think it was mentioned that we don't discuss stuff like this...
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Starling is agreeing with that Daloran person again...
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: I'm in the STEM (science, technology, ect...) program and from there I get to choose Modeling and Simulation, geospacial technologies, and I think some kind of robotics which would yall choose? Just curious =]
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: and is suppose to be or
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: hmm i think science better, technology hard to catch up always got new techn
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: i mean u like science or technology better, like do u like to program?
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: i like to program, but im just wonderin what yall would choose =]
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: well guess u like technology already hehe but i think even if computer science major has to take math and physics
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: hmm do u get to build like robots too?
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: they said (by they i mean my teachers) that Modeling and Simulation was pretty much gaming and geospacial is i guess making a GPS
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Keep in mind that to study that you can't cheat or hack your way to getting good grades ;)
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: people said if u want to get into programming games, u need to get a computer science degree
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Would make for an interesting security class... "If you can hack my gradebook, I'll consider it a legit grade."
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Normally robotics involves building robots, yes...
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: you don't need a cs degree
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: well, in the robotics thing i took in 8th grade we build a robot out of legos and used NXT to program it
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: I think it'd get harder every year, Daloran :(
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: just make a game that kicks all other games in the head & sell it
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Kheftiu: The offer degrees in counterstrike?!?!?!
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: one thing school doesn't give is creativity
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: yeah but, i think most game campanies prefer to hire people with computer science degrees, unless u like to draw like pictures for games?
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: but computer progrtamming games might not be so good i thinkElectronic Arts just fired like 10% of their employees
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: But EA makes terrible games.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: don't they make sports games?
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: thats all i know 'em for
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Like I said, terrible games =p
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: hmm i think EA makes a lot of different games, consoles and online mmoprgs
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Hey Xzx, I have a question.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: cause their cost of making games too high, unless u are like Perfect World game company that u have your own mmorpg graphics enginer platform that can create a game in every 6 months, its goingto cost many millions to make a game
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: When you add "i think" into a sentence, does that mean "I'm making this up, but I think it sounds good"?
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: well, i just looked on my table (where Need for speed carbon is sitting) and they made that, thats was a good game when it came out
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: lol, only reason it costs many millions is pointless bulk & implementing new hardware to make other companies money
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: then they'll advertise your software
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: when i add i think = its more like in my opinion or most likely
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: In your opinion or most likely? rofl
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: most of the work in making game engines is probably copy paste
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: most likely in his opinion =]
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: then they add a few math algorithms that somebody else invented
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: cause i got bored 1 time i read the 10k or 10 q whatever annual report on perfect world, they said they got this angelica graphic enginer platform, they can make a game every 6 months lol EA, Blilizzard takes like 2-3 yrs to get a game out lol
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Well, by that logic, Xzx is an 11 year old girl, I think.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: 9-year-old
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: and install some spyware for the statistics companies
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: hmm i think making a decent online mmorpgs cost like 10 + millions well maybe close to like 100m if u are like blizzard lol
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You think, eh Xzx?
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: plus u dont know if u can get the money back like LOTRD and what else spent a loton of money lol they did pay to play then had to do free to play
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: lol, they probably get most of their hardware for free to make them on too, so long as that hardware is required to play them
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: nah, being a game creator and making a ferrarri a week probably is as hard as inventing a new word search puzzle for the new york times
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: hmm i think they spent a lot of money on warhammer, age of conan and another game named D something, and lotr dont think they are doing that well, they moving into free to play model
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: Do you think blizzard should make WoW for the Xbox360?
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Real Heafmo Tech: Ew, no.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: they were asked to but they said no
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: yeah a lot of games trying to copy wow, hmm i dont like those us/europe made games that much, like playing the asian grinders or mostly just free to play item mall ones
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: of course im cheap i dont like to pay every month lol unless its a 1 time thing like diablo 2
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: the only game close to WoW for the xbox360 is phantasy star universe. I wish they had WoW for the Xbox360
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: well, thats the only game I know thats close to WoW for the 360
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: So let me get this straight - you don't want to pay every month, unless its a one time fee?
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: hmm i got a wii and playstation 3 here dont really like the games that much
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: xbox and playstation networks are kind of rediculous too
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: yeah a lot of gaames or online mmoprgs are moving into the free to play model with item mall
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: i wonder why there's not open source alternative to connect to them
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Harder than your mom.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No they aren't.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Mis.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: well cause pay to play games every month, u have to pay after a few yrs the game might die, if its free to play the gae can last many yrs i think
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: what do they want like 30 bucks every month or every 6?
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: in addition to internet bill
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: just look at silkroad online wtf that games so dam old they got crazy amount of servers
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ultima online says what
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: I think WoW is $15 or $30 a month
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: they usually ask about 10-20 bucks per month
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: no it doesn't, daloran
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It does, I just talked to it.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: Runescape is $5 a month =]
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It also says to stay off his lawn
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: but u can play free on runescape too u dont have to pay
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: Whats the most realistic game anyone has played?
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: real life
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Hello kitty island adventure, I think
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: why would you want to play a realistic game?
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: hmm i mostlyl play the asian item mall games with open pk and u have to drop items when u die its kind of more excciting for me if got item drop for death
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Halo guy is a cool guy, he blows up aliens and doesn't afraid of anything.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: i think it's the idea of being mortal but being able to simulate mortality in a video game without cost
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: dunno, the most realistic game i played was Wurm online. I played it for a few hours (got nowhere) then I went into a cave and a bear killed me
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: tactical ops mod for unreal tournament was most realistic shooter i played i think
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Oh. I forget about those mortal concerns.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: i tried a realistic war game, kept dieing
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yaomi, let that be a lesson to you not to try out realistic war
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: hmm i read reviews on urm online, holy that thing is very outdated horrible graphics 
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: err wurm online
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: its very realistic though
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: heh if racing games were realistic, people would just crash a lot, doesn't mean most players can't drive a car :P
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Sweet, good call.. I signed up for a Gizmo 5 account as soon as I heard google bought.. apparently they're closed to new accounts now =p
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: grand turismo was neat, but i didn't like the fact i couldn't leave tire tracks all over
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: back when ps2 first came out
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasdeja Tech: I've put a lot of hours into that series.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I read that the Grand Mxitards attempted to run a mxitard MMORPG but that, alas, it failed.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: Forza 3 vs Need for speed shift, which do yall think is better?
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: it's a neat one, lots of modifications and things
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: oh i liked the dreamcast one was pretty one lol can hit the walls canstill dont lose a lt of speed like in some turns its better to hit walls then try to drift turn
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: NO PERSONAL ATTAX PLS!
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I can imagine logging into that game, probably would kill 10 million brain cells per second.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: like listening to you right ?
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: A pity, because now they just come to Aard :(
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: u guys play any mmmorpgs now that are pay to play or free to play?
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: i mean playing now but not used to playing lol
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: phantasy star universe for the Xbox360
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: hmmwhats so good about the xbox360? wii and playstation 3 not better than that?
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: Xbox360 has more stuff the PS3
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: Than The PS3*
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: they have like more online stuff right to play with other people?
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: first second and third mario bro's on nintendo 1 were my favourites still :p, for that console there seemed to be no end to games coming out
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: i remember buying cartriages with 10 japanese games on them
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: PS3 has netflix, games on demand (download games), and some other stuff that i'd have to go to the dashboard to list
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: I mean 360 has the stuff i just listed
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: each was cool too
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: I'm likin' my netflix on PS3, just got my software today.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: PS3 has netflix?
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Halo 3 is pretty cool
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Yeah, you can watch netflix on it.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Rainbow Six Vegas 2 is also fun
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: Halo Waypoint is awesome!
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I like to kill people, so, it works out
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: I like the videos =]
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Netflix is pissing me off, though. They are debating cutting costs by waiting a full month to release new release dvds.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: But I can't play it much because playing those games would involve botting Aard and/or not levelling.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: I kind of want to get a PS3 just because its really cheap for the power
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Apparently movie companies are willing to sell DVDs to Netflix for cheaper if they do it that way.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: hmm i think nintendo and super nintendo had a lot more games than these new systems hmm i think play station 1 got a lot of games too
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: PS3 has to many updates
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: SNES is still the best system ever, don't dispute it, you know it to be true.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: dreamcast sure didn't get many games
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: I liked Sega
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: sega used to have awesome games on the genesis though
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: hmm sega genesis had a lot of games too
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Best game for Dreamcast was Phantasy Star. :p
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: The only thing wrong with SNES is that Sonic the Hedgehog is not available on it
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: gameboy. The original one. Beats out snes
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: i liked sonic
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Super Metroid is the best game of all time though.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: the first one where you could drill holes through walls was cool
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: not even close
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: FF2/4 comes in second.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: i'm sure eventually these new systems will have alot of games
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: i played that on that game gear in school
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: hmm a lot of the rpgs on snes was pretty good even without that 3d and ssound stuff
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: anyone getting OnLive?
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I liked Star Fox too, but it was really hard.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: dam i remember it cost like 30 bucks to buy a snes game lol
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: lots of games is one thing, but quality of games is what matters
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: everybody's in it for the buck only though and don't really care if their games don't suck
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Heh, crazy-assed graphics and 3d stuff != good game.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: i dunno i still like nes better then snes
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: God Damn Kheftiu is agreeing with that Yaomiqui person again...
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: NES was also great.  Wow, I agree with Ateam on something :P
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: hmm in some of those crazy graphics and 3d games, i get dizzy playing them dont know why lol its the spinning angels maybe get medizzy
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: My friend just beat TMNT on NES without cheating.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: The original game, too, no emulator.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: OnLive has a monthly fee then you can play any game you want right?
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I miss playing MegaMan :(
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: dragon warrior, super mario bro's... spent months/years playing those games
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods at Yaomiqui.
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: hmm u can play them on emulator but i think on the snes system is better :P
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I was very dissappointed to find that level 30 is the max in Dragon Warrior :(
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: nintendo got that crappy loading thing sometimes if got too much dust on the games cant load lol takes lkike 30 mins to load a game
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Apparently 65535 xp is the most you can have, silly developers who thought storing it as a 16-bit number was a good idea :(
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}C= Amigan Tech: I had TMNT as a kid, could never it though :(
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}C= Amigan Tech: complete it I was meant to say, I'm tired :P
T1/r7/2009-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Heh. For those who want a free (legal) music download, go to Amazon and use the code CMAAWARD. ;)
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: they haven't solved the quantum uncertainty problem yet, so teleportation even of photons is on standby
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Actually, I believe they have managed to teleport photons.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: yes, they have.  Twice.  The second time, the photon appeared in the off position
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I'm just saying that they managed to teleport them.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Heisenberg uncertainty would still preclude teleporting a large, organized system intact.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: this demonstrates that the Uncertainty Principle is in effect during the transit phase when the photon exists in neither place
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: that was the big reason for replicating the teleportation experiment in the first place.  If they could reliably guarantee the state of the particle on both sides of the event, then Heisenberg wouldn't apply.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: such would have made teleportation effectively a 3d version of a camara
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasyrn Tech: we need a camera into time, but I wonder what the image of all of the possibilities would look like
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: a lot younger.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Anyway, who says that Heisenberg uncertainty is a problem that 'can' be solved?
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: nobody, the question was whether it was occurring or not.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: You just said that we're not teleporting photons, when in fact we are teleporting them.  We just can't guarantee what's going to come out of the other end of the transporter.  Could be another photon, could be your mom.  No way to tell.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: no, I said it was on standby
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Starling shrugs helplessly.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasyrn Tech: that doesn't sound like transportation so much as random generation then...
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It teleports the energy, not necessarily the form of the energy.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasyrn Tech: kinda like fm
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: i remember glancing over a science article where through rna or dna or some kind of particle, they were able to stimulate one thing from stimulating another
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: your grasp of quantum mechanics is weak :P
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: or manipulate
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: like a particle connected somehow in 2 places at once
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Dare I ask whose?
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: Homeland Security has come up with a prototype for a tricorder as well
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: lots of cool implications for storing 'data' from that experiment
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: the teleport one?  If you can't guarantee a 1 or a 0, how are you going to store what it represents?
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: nah, from a particle being in 2 places at once
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: if all you need is one particle to be connected to a body somewhere else on earth, what could be reconstructed in a chain reaction at will?
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: science can be scary when you consider crazy stuff like that
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: but it is probably possible
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: heh, that's cool.  silicon-silk electronic implants, applied like temporary tattoos.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: that chick on mythbusters had a medical chip installed in her arm
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: it's only like a experimental thing though, instant med info and stuff
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: i don't like the idea though, kind of borgish
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: you just know when they perfect that someone's going to turn themselves into a living, breathing circuit board the way that one guy changed his name to Enigma and had his entire body tattooed into a blue jigsaw puzzle
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: resistance is futile
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Damn you Ateam, you beat me to it.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: lol, those preserved heads on futurama not so far off
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I'd abandon the mortal coil for a computerized existence.  No question about it.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: i wouldn't
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: great, where's your power down button?
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: "Eureka" (and perhaps "Fringe") is no longer sci-fi but fantasy-bogus-sci-fi
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: I wouldn't either.  Check this out: http://technovelgy.com/ct/Science-Fiction-News.asp?NewsNum=2631
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Don't have one ;)
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: turning your thoughts to video on youtube...
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: I don't want to live in a world where tin-foil hats really work.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Me Wantee Freggle Tech: you prolly get used to it ;)
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: "Fringe" used tin foil hats in the episode "On human action" 
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Besides, if I were computerized, I wouldn't have a single, centralized server, it would be more of a Borg-like botnet kind of thing.  Complete with robot drones and a kickass MUD bot to boot.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: did you all hear about the 3d food printer?
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: the future is hurd
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: No.  Can it make waffles?
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasyrn Tech: would you be programmable?
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: heh, she'd have a fun button, at least
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: lol that'd be funky, having your own individuality in there but having somebody make you do things
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I'd be self-adapting.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: what'll we do when the world's oxygen supply is ran by robots and the robots are maintained by robots, and the robots break down?
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasyrn Tech: well you could expose as much as you wanted - like just allow theming or allowing complete rewrite of anything down to the device (or soul) drivers
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Then they get fixed by robots that aren't broken down.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: twisted ideology of heaven on earth
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Hell no, why would I allow anybody to rewrite my soul?  I like it just the way it is, thank you.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I know why other people would want to, which is exactly why I wouldn't let them :P
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I just think it would be nice to not have to worry about food or blood sugar, or stupid organic crap like that.  Would rather run on electricity any day, just plug into a wall socket to charge up.  Or go solar/green/etc.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: if we weren't meant to break we wouldn't be made like that
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Komrad Kessel Tech: didn't lasher help you go nuclear once?
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasyrn Tech: i want to have nuclear arms! :)
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: if we were all immortal where would everybody fit in 1000 years?
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: No, that was Valkur.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: reproducing like rabbits
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Although Lasher and Claire both watched from inside the radiation shielding bunker.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Komrad Kessel Tech: do you still glow in the dark?
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: ...
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Sometimes.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: But it's fading now.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Don't act like you've never seen the inside of a mushroom cloud, Chuft.  Your former MUD, need I say more?  That's right.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: To quote Kermit the Frog, it ain't easy being green.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: print media with video...that's sort of beside the point, isn't it?
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: I mean, if I wanted to see a naked girl dancing on a pole I'd just go down to the nudie bar instead of the newstand.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Urwin giggles when he considers TongueVision technology.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakkalan Darkhawk Tech: we have . 25 dl speed in bunkhouse, my roomate with newq laptop can get netflix show to start mine won't even get to buffering, my computer that polluted?
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: anybody been brave enough to use windows 7 yet :P
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erko Tech: i'm using it
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I've been using it ever since the betas came out.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cizra  is too scared ever since ME
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: thoughts? i'm finally breaking down and buying a new computer and am trying to decide whether to get the home version or the professional version
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Windows 7 is a hell of a lot better the ME AND Vista.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Seriously, Microsoft has done something right for once with this OS.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Charneus: elaborate?
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not all things, but most of them
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: It's still not possible to try Win7 for free, is it...
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: since my company gets a major assed discount with HP and Dell i'm trying to figure it out
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I missed the beta phase.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Trurien: Not anymore, I don't think. :)
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: windows search and start menu are actually useful now
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods at Seltsimees Dagnir.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: fast and stable
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Elaboration. Hmmm.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's the little things i like aboot this os, really. some things suck tho
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: Yeah...but which would be better to get..Home or Professional (like which is less likely to cause me to get an anurysm?)
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'd go pro
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Ultimate/Enterprise will be your best bet, but Pro otherwise.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i think only pro/enterprise/ultimate can use the xp mode, but i've never needed to use it anyway
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: all we get to choose from is Home and Pro
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: i just deleted some aardwolf plugin stuff and i get this every time i type something ->{stats}344/194,113/17,232/123,315/184,271/191,227/122,100,100,100,459,797,You are Standing.,9999,8234/8234,5331/5331,3491/3491,4176065,3460,8,2352,955,193,
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: what file do i delete to get rid of it?
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: statmon
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: oh
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or re-enable the xStats_Detector plugin
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a few things rely on the stats detector plugin, so if you see some things not updating, it's because of what you've disabled/deleted
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: h 3
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: i just installed plugins for spellup other script
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: then realize i can use an alias
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you want to manually update that alias every few levels, sure
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: spelling up others generally comes as a feature with decent spellup scripts (which offer advantages over the built-in spellup command)
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: can anyone recommend a free *nix shell provider that let's you run basic stuff like irssi and perhaps a mud client?
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm aware that there's a bunch of them around, but i'd like to hear from someone who has had a good experience with one. some of them really suck
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: anyone have windows 7 installed?
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Yes...
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: sortof yes
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: any problems with the mush client?
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Are we having a repeat of the conversation that was on this channel about 3 hours ago? :P
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: No problems with it whatsoever.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: urm. i can check history
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: I have no problems with mush on vista, so I wouldn't assume you would have a problem with it on windows 7
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: anyone have a computer around here?
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: didn't have the channel on 3 hours ago.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: No, Dagnir. What the hell's a computer?
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: hehe.. 
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: NO QUIT ASKING OBVIOUS QUESTIONS DAGNIR
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: i mud 4rm 3g mxit
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: can u answr my qstion plzz?
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i has problem
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: plz halp
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I haz cheezburgr! Dat hlpz?
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: u have mah buckit?
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: sounds like there's general happiness with windows 7.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: good. have to upgrade here and wanted to know if i needed to expect any hiccups.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: mush related that is. always other hiccups.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: anyone tried playing Modern Warfare 2 on the Mac yet?
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: lua doesn't have any native way to clone tables?
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immerez Tech: in zmud in a trigger how do you make it do several cmds? {cmd1;cmd2} isn't working for me
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Just make a list in the commands box
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: pick up a big hammer, and find zugg, then brain him with it
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I.e. each command on a separate line
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: it's the only way
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: sounds good
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: That would work also, Chuft
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immerez Tech: but if you're making a trigger to set a variable to do multiple things...
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: What are you trying to do, exactly?
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: make multiple variables?
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: use dbkeys
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immerez Tech: guess i could make mult. var's, but that's messy :P
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yaomiqui is the king is wrting messy scripts
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: And/or getting caught using them
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Starling coughs loudly.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: nah i never scripted that, stayed up late using aliases :P
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Starling wuv Yaomiqui. Aww, how coot.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Heh :P
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SpyWolf Tech: When i accept a duel it says "the accept command is currently disabled" how do i accept?
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: you don't
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: who here is using ubuntu?
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Everyone.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: That's rather optimistic.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aztar Tech: I use it at home, why?
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: well, it was rather optimistic to assume anyone here uses ubuntu.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: Anyways, what client do you use, Aztar?
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: TinTin++ ftw.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aztar Tech: the MUSHClient
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: I'm on ubuntu
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aztar Tech: I need to move to tintin++ just have not gotten around to it.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: why?
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: and I use tt++ too.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: what does tintin++ offer that is better than mushclient?
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: See, I like tintin, but it's lacking some function, unless i just need to learn how to use #SCRIPT better..
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You need to learn to use Tintin better, yeah
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aztar Tech: just the old feel of mudding... I like MUSHclient.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: tintin's built in scripting is a bit weak, but it integrates extremely well with other scripting languages. Most of my complicated stuff is in python
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I've found it to work as well as Zmudscript. Other scripting languages zmud supports not included.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aztar Tech: with MUSHClient I had a bug where "help" crashed it, so I had to disable that plugin.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Also, Mushclient doesn't run under ubuntu without Wine
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: Yeah,that's why i switched to tt++
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: huh. not sure what ubuntu is. looking it up.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aztar Tech: yeah there is that... wine makes MUSHClient look funny
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: I learn by using helpfiles and the help isn't really that great for either one.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: could presumably run it in virtualbox
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ubuntu is a linux package based on Debian
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: using Vbox solely to run a mudclient is overkill
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Also - running in Vbox its no longer running in ubuntu
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: This is correct.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: beg to differ
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Okay, Its running under an emulator under ubuntu, sure, but its not a native application
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: interesting free OS. reading more... 
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: just run tinyfugue
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: But, what is it you think that tintin is lacking?
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: Anipopo:  Saying that is like saying if I read a newspaper under the eiffel tower, I actually used the eiffel tower to read the paper.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: that analogy is about as tortuous as it is wrong
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: I'm not sure, I've just tried a few triggers and stuff that "should" work but they don't.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I think a better analogy would be saying I slept on the floor, when you slept on the bed. Sure the bed is ON the floor, but, cmon now.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: Yes, either way.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: it's like listening to a foreign language radio station with a babelfish in your ear
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Stranton.. then you're doing something wrong, and they shouldn't work
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: Alright, how do you expand variables in tt++ then?
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: with a $
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: $varname
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: yeah, that's what i've been using.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: It treats variables and captured text differently
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: Is there anyway to show the triggers even if they don't fire or if they do and do it incorrectly?
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Using #ECHO
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: I mean when they actually fire is there an option to see them fire, like in zmud?
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: Debug shows alot of stuff like that too
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: '#debug action on' in this case
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: awesome thank you.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: What about those of you who do use tt++ on ubuntu?  What terminal app do you use?  Just the bundled terminal?  Do you even bother logging into X?
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: i use xfce terminal, and yes i log into x.  i use screen as well
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: I'll run it in screen sometimes so I can login from elsewhere
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Seconding screen.. I log in from my laptop sometimes, but yeah, still run under x
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: screen?  is that better than konsole?
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aztar Tech: screen in konsole
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: I don't get it, i'm a newb.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: screen is so the session stays running when you log out of the terminal client
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: orly?  How do I do this?
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: If you log in to your computer, type screen, run aardwolf, or whatever
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: when you are done, hit ctrl-a ctril-d, and then logout or whatever
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: then you can ssh in from anywhere, and do screen -r and you are right back where you were when you detached
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: See this is how I do it...  I just run konsole after booting into X, run tt++, connect and when I'm done ctrl+z and exit.  I guess it's not the best way though.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: if you aren't going to log in from anywhere else, no reason to run screen. 
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: ok
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: yeah i couldn't begin to understand ssh'ing right now.  I guess i have the general idea behind it and everything but no need for me.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Stranton.... SSH.. think of it as more secure telnet, for this situation.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: does tt++ have something like zmud's %pop function?  Where it goes through all of the elements of a variable until it finds the correct one (identified by ifcheck)?
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: Hmm.  I do not like having to reload all of my variable when I restart tt++.  I know the #READ command can help with that
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aeraphir Tech: can someone tell me again how to keep the chat out of the main window?
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: quiet
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aeraphir Tech: hmm... not exactly what i was looking for. i want it to go to the chat window only.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: what client?
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aeraphir Tech: aardwolf mushclient
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: ah can't help you there
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhAt Ninja Wereturtle Tech: can anyone recommend a good level timer script for mushclient?
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i thought balaams script did a decent job with that
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhAt Ninja Wereturtle Tech: it might, where would I find that?
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i don't have a link offhand
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skull Tech: ok geek squad, I have one for ya. ( hang on cant type fast)
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: 6.022E+23
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skull Tech: I loaded a new hard drive on my laptop- everythings loaded fine except now my laptop doesnt show CONNECT to a wireless connection ?
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Driver issue?
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skull Tech: not sure , thats what im asking, I have all the disks and reloaded what I have, was working before hard drive failed.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I'm no expert but it sounds like a problem with drivers.  Have you tried googling it?
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It might just be a matter of downloading or re-downloading something.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: i'd find out what wireless card is in your laptop and go to their website, download recent drivers and copy them to your laptop then install them.
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skull Tech: ok
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I'm guessing HDD failed and you've reinstalled windows and all that?
T1/r7/2009-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Starling is agreeing with that Ira Deorum Velian person again...
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: i took out bastmush scripts but i get 4 #include errors when i start mud
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: which file would that be
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: n/m, they're gone
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasyrn Tech: mushclient question: I want to store the last direction walked (input from my numpad) into a variable.  Can anyone shed some light how?
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Anyone know off hand if The Gimp does vector graphics? And if not, is there an equivlent software to Illustrator that works under Ubuntu?
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: Xara?
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: That the name of the app?
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: Yes.
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ah, thanks much
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: Or inkscape if you're looking for simple vector-based program..
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Fairly simple. Just doing traces for backgrounds
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: Oh I see, Inkscape has too many gnome dependencies for my taste though
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ahh, I'm a linux newb.. and so far as i've seen package manager takes care of all the dependencies
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: Yeah, that's all fine and good, but if you don't use gnome (like me) apps with a lot of gnome deps are annoying :P
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: just as kde apps are really annoying for gnome-users
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: KDE is just way too bloated for my tastes :P
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: and your face is too bloated for mine!
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft coughs loudly.
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: sorry, thought this was gclan ;)
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ahhhh gotcha. I'm using Gnome at present.. more or less just cause it was what popped up off the cd i downloaded. I don't know how KDE differs, to be honest
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: bloated being a tech term
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: I don't have gclan.. I'm missing all the Chuft action!
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Xara works beautifully, Thanks again
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: Xara is a beast :)
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Might just be me, but seems like the auto-trace works much better then illustrator
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: hm. well that's a plus for you then :)  I've never used illustrator so..
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Drtoki shrugs helplessly.
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Shrug. about the only thing i've ever used it for is to take smaller res images, and trace them so I can use them as backgrounds. Cause well, 640x480 pictures don't do well streached to 1920x1200
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: this channel is unusually quiet for a saturday
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: shame you're not
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: am i to conclude then, that windows 7 has cured everyones' problems?
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: apparently mushclient help doesn't work in windows 7 :P
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: some of them. currently fighting the new ones
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: really? Hmmm
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: the only big thing missing from vista 7 is the ability to do an inplace repair of the os
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: well, just about to switch to wine based mushclient, which is going to be, erm, interesting
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I don't think any xp format help will except in a virtual machine thingy
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: why? it runs an xp kernel quite seamlessly, apparently
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: not supposed to, tho
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Windows7 is more bloated than before -- 'confirming' that microsoft programmers use 'goto' statements instead of 'calls'
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: they were supposed to have reduced the kernal size significantly
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: how many CDs is XP, Vista, Win7 
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: XP is 1 cd, Vista/7 are 1 dvd.
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: but of course, having a shiny new task bar that i didn't really want, and don't really like, is a good reason to need to buy a new pc just to run w7
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Exception being XP MCE which came on 2 cds.
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: in their defence, daloran, the 2nd cd of MCE was only about 50mb, and vista/7 have all 9 gazillion editions of the os on one dvd
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i like the new taskbar. i have win2k look, but it's nice for arranging stuff. also winkey+# shortcuts
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: how many GB on the DVD is Vista, Win7
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: about 2.5 for vista, no idea for 7, probably similar judging by the beta
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hmm, my install is around 8 gigs
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: win 7 x64 professional install iso = 3.2gb for me
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod Fark.. no need to defend though, he just asked how many discs
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: in all honesty, though, there's little in 7 that's different from vista
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: precious little
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Cablecard support =p
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: never heard of it
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Lol.. we've been over this Fark. Though, not being in the US it's not really relevant to you either
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i'm old, you'll have to remind me
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: LIES.
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: well, 7 doesn't eat all my ram at once. that's a huge difference
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Support for cable TV stations in the US, basically a device that allows you descramble channels like a cable box for the media center.
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: that's been available since xp
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: and quite early in xp, too
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: albeit for satellite channels, but the technology is no different
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Er, its drastically different
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: only difference is the transmission medium
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: hauppage have been doing the cards for donkies years
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yes, but they don't do scrambled channels, only basic cable.
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nope, they did smartcard versions back when satellite required it
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Thats not cable.
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: same principle
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It's really not.
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: is it tv?
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It is, yes
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: is it encrypted?
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It's not the same thing even remotely =p
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And there no appropriate tuners in the states to do that for sattelite either, at the moment.
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if there is little different from Vista in Win7, and the Win7 kernel is smaller, then explain the extra bloat on the DVD
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: probably means there's no call for it, daloran
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: Try puppy linux if you want like 0 bloat...
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: likely never will be, since they're now starting stream sky online
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No, just content providors locking things down with DRM.
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Again, Sky Online is a UK thing.
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: not my fault you guys are behind the times :-)
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: analog TV used to be free (except for the initial purchase cost of the TV) 
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: There are still broadcast stations, Xyliz.
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: tv has never been free, here
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: digital TV is not free
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Some of it is, Xyl
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: digital tv is not free, here
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And if my understanding of Sky is correct, we've got an equivlent, Hulu
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: British ruling classes prefer to censor tv and radio and force the british public to pay for that restrictive censorship
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: did the British ban rock'n'roll from radio (as a recent film suggests) 
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: neither is true, xyliz
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: british tv is considerably less censored than american
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the white British are used to and satisfied with that status quo in Britain (and Australia)
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the North Americans are likely used to and satisfied with the status quo in North America -- there is more variety in North American tv (and technical products ?)
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: with cmud what would be the easiest way to get 10% of a number?
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Divide it by 10
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: then how about 30% :P
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: multply by .3. Or divide by 10/3
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: dont work -.-
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: then you're doing it wrong.
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: when i do eval(100*.3) it returns 0 ... meaning i need to figure out another way to do the math
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: which client
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Zmud you said?
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Pretty sure %eval doesn't handle floating point math
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: try %calc
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: yeah thats a bug with multiply or something , put the .3 in 0
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emir Icebergovich Tech: I just saw that it doesn't
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Maybe that was changed in later versions, but in my old 5.55 it doesn't
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: %eval(100*%float(.3))
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emir Icebergovich Tech: which caused me problems
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emir Icebergovich Tech: which caused me problems
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: nod, %calc(100 * 0.30)
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emir Icebergovich Tech: oops
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: or that
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emir Icebergovich Tech: #SHOW 
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emir Icebergovich Tech: "#SHOW %eval(3/2)"
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: ... this works thanks #show 30
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkenem Tech: can mxit have good triggers
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: darkenem, sure...they just have to use a better client :-)
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if they can run mxit, then they can run telnet clients
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if they can run telnet clients, then they can run MUD clients
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and MUD clients would let them have good triggers
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Can anyone reccomend a good python book? Or are online sources probably still the best bet.
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: i just search for stuff online to help me find what i want
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: existing level of familiarity with a language is pretty decisive there...
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: python's just pseudocode
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Minimal familiarity. Poked at a few scripts others have written and changed a few things to suit my needs, but, no idea about parts of it
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: i'm teaching it to my daughter
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: well, Perl is an interpreted language as well - which doesn't reduce its usefulness
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: how can I create an alias in mush to remove second, hold portal enter etc, then wield the weapon removed...so I can use the same alias without having to change it?
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: when my second changes
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: If 3 of my Xbox360s have broken and I have one that keeps getting the "Red Ring Of Death", when that breaks do yall think I should keep buying Xbox360s?
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: stop buying used ones :P
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: i would returned the first one
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: would have*
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Send it back to MS for repair.
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: yeah but they probably claim that it's pirated :P
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yes, because you can TOTALLY pirate hardware
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: YOU WOULDN'T DOWNLOAD A CAR
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien raises an eyebrow at Daloran's weird actions.
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ... Don't copy that floppy.
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: does anyone know why the PS3 dosn't break as often as the Xbox360?
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Because it's not pirated? :P
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Seriously, though, I'm not sure.
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: because sony > microsoft?
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Real Heafmo Tech: Microsoft are cheap IMO, think about the amount of gamers that have bought more than 1 console from them.
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: hmm, you dont have insurance to get a refurbished xbox back from microsoft?
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: i think its a 1 or 2 year warranty
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Real Heafmo Tech: they extended the warranty on the common occuring problems to like.. 3 year
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Real Heafmo Tech: in UK
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: i bought my ps2 first day released in canada and it still works
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Real Heafmo Tech: I remember the good ol' days, too.
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: it had to get a laser replaced though, some kind of bugged dvd reading on originals
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Rrod is 3+ years
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: In English, that would be ....
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Kheftiu: So, thats like last month, right?
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: RROD = Red Ring of Death
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: year 2000
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: I've never had rrod and either of my xbox's
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: My newest one however, got the e74 message
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: don't worry, its coming
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ini, Same problem can potentially cause both.
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Stick it Inicus nods at Daloran.
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: I've gotta see if I can get it sent back to microsoft, or just attempt to fix it myself
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: The red ring of death looks nice. I like it when my xbox flashes orangish red but then I get scared becasue I fear it might be broken.
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: if warranty is still valid, definately do that first
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Of course
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Going to call on Monday when I get back to Washington and check
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: a computer that just decides to blow up after 5 years isn't worth buying in the first place, if you don't pour water on the circuits and don't play with the memory timing it should last till you turn it off
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: so when you turn off your computer it'll blow up?
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It's a poor design and an easy fix, Khef
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: they build them to break so you buy another one
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: smart idea
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: the faster they brea,k, the earlier, you buy a new replacement
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: they do that with pretty much everything these days
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: If that was true they wouldnt have continually extended their warranty on it.
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Anyone know what the average time on getting it back from microsoft is now?
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: hehe maybe they make it so that 90% of their products last until right be4 their warranty expires
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: i mean right after 
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: nods, they don't make money selling the system, they make it selling you the games
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: maybe they make it break. Maybe they sit around in a nice, soft leather chair with a giant screen with everyones gamertag on it, select thir gamertag and press the red ring of death button.
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Sounds cool ... and sounds MS :P
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: And how do you suppose they do that if you're not connected to xbox live illiden?
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: How do you suppose they break your solder joints via THE INTERNETZ
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: maybe they have built in viruses wthat will burn out your circuits so u buy a new one hehe
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: When you leave your house the Xbox360 assassin drops by
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: same idea as a hacker controlling your computer and can burn out your cpu
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Ask xkcd.com ... they know :P
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Xzx, So, total fallacy is what you're saying. Gotcha.
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: hmm read an article that billions of or millions of connected internet systems are infected with viruses/spyware and these people can mess up their computer any time they want :P
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: a webcomic of romance, sarcasm, math, and science?
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: sorry, math and language
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: You had to look it up?!
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Viruses affect software, not hardware.
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: yeah, should be isp's responsibility they're not hosting a botnet
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: well, with the potential exception of hard drive thrashing.
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Even then, it's just additional wear and tear.
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: hmm u cant disables someones fan system by remote control? and siabling the auto restart if your cpu gets too hot
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: wait i think thats pretty possible to do :P and u can force run processes that run your cpu at 100% + to burn it out
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: Can you attach your Xbox360 hard drive (the one inside) to your computer?
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: if you have root on the computer and know how the circuits work you can do anything
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Illiden yes and no. Its a sata drive - but you'd have to buy a special adapter, or remove it from its case.
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yeah, doesn't really work like that Xzx.
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: depends on the fan too, some have more manual control on them
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: yeah, i seen boxes with controls on them for fan
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: can probably disable most of the external controls through a few instructinos too
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: only fan on my pc that works on temp sensor is the psu
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: the rest have manual controls on them
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: my video card fan does if a nvidia driver's installed
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: oh right
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Pffft. Passive cooled video cards ftw.
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: forgot about that fan LO
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: pretty stupid hacker if he wants to kill your pc anyway, most want to take it over...
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: HACKERS CAN CONTROL YOUR COMPUTER AND TURN IT IN TO A BOMB. IS YOUR FAMILY SAFE? NEWS AT 11
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: usually they say it's cracker who wants your pc and a hacker doesn't want anything with it
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: not much use to hack a computer unless, they have their banking information, but a lot of people use credit cards and banking on their computer now
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Cracker, not hacker :P
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: that's why lots of linux programmers called themselves unix hackers
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: crackers want to store all the illegal stuff on your pc for some reason
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: heh just to use unix, you have to think like a hacker :P
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: probably not even that anymore
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: except for file sharing
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Good thing Linux isn't like that :P
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: actually no one wants to hack your computer, lol why not hack like walmarts and copy down all the credit card numbers hehe
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: they just want your pc to hide their identity so they can crack another box
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: yeah good ones use others computers to do it but unless u are doing it from a public computer, library, they going to find out who did it
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: those open wifi sure make it alot easier to stay anonymous for that stuff
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: or use free wifi and use a newly formated comp with no personal information
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: yeah good to steal it from starbucks to hack hehe
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: what, they found a good use for starbucks? :P
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: i knew people weren't just going there for the crappy coffee
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Except the wifi at starbucks is not free.
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: isp's should be monitored by security forces, and be required to have employees who monitor traffic for botnets
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: after all, could be some korean hacker coming into your neighbourhood botnet to break into your military database x
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: what non-malicious intending user would refuse a scan from the tech's for trojan's?
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: i imagine such software already exists freely on sourceforge
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yeah... I'd prefer to keep the number of people looking at my information to a minimum, thanks.
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: hmm i thought isps already keep a record of everything u do on the net
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: looking at your ports is looking at your info?
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: "monitor traffic for botnets"
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: it's like writing a program to add 2 input numbers, you take the privacy issues and put it into the exception list
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: yeah, 1000 requests for port 7559 in 2 minutes, hmm
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Shrug. Maybe I'm sending a lot of IMs over that port for some reason.
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And Xzx.. typically they just keep logs of who is assigned what IP address and what time.
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: i dont know about that, i thought that the FBI can go to your isp and request logfiles of what u did on the net lol
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: To the best of my understanding they would need to obtain a warrant to run a wiretap to monitor your traffic.
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: hmm didnt they pass a law that i think its patriots act that they can  wiretap anyone
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Anyone? No. Though I'm sure this law has been and will continue to be streched to its limits.
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: lol, they ought to rewrite the law to put national security before individual bickerings then
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: if somebody's interested in looking for one type of person (a cracker who uses others computers to break into yours), they don't really care if you download a .mp3 file
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: and it should be stated that they don't care about anything but that objective so the lawyers don't profit their companies from it like they do with every other little triviality on the internet
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: liberty on a machine?
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: this was made for the military
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Mant technologies originally are.
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: many
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Also Khef, talking about cracking and .mp3s in the same sentence, I get the feeling you're confusing civil and criminal issues.
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: i think preventing somebody from stealing somebody's life savings through somebody elses cracked pc is more important than hiding the knowledge that somebody broke the internet law
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: like laws of downloading music files and stuff
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: what does the military have to do with MCA?
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: MCA being which of its many meanings
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: record company
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ah.
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nothing, really
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: hmmm what can they do if u download, free mp3s from third world countries' hosted servers?
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: exactly, so where would the military be selling this info to about your .mp3 files or your taste in milfs?
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: how do they prosecute u?
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: difference between civilian and military objectives
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Xzx, the copywrite holders of the pirated media would be the ones to attempt prosecution.
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: hmm u still get in troubleeven if u downloaded it from thir worlld ctounries servers?
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Khef, it's not the content I'm concerned about, It's general privacy concerns. Theres no reason for them to have any of that information.
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: exactly, and civilian software already tries to rat on you, like windows checking your music files
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: and stuff like that, that's part of the civilian realm
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Xzx.. if you're violating their copyright which is valid in your country, yes.
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: military doesn't assist or prevent it
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: cause i think that if u download pirated software on servers from china, u wont get into trouble
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: but if somebody's trojaning government computers and hosting trojans on networks across america to break into more, then that should be considered a military / security problem
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It doesn't work that way, Xzx.
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: other way around
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You won't get "in trouble" unless the owner of the software decides to prosecute.
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: hmm shouldnt they be proescuting the host of that server in china? lol
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: If you're using illegally obtained software, they can prosecute regardless of where said software came from.
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: china has a good ability to halt internet searches, they should also have ability to halt crackers
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Khef: Government computers, surely. Personal computers, no.
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: hmmm cause i think a lot of people in china use pirated software i dont see them doing anything to dthem
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: especiallyw ith the 10000 odd university cs grads per year
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Xzx.. different country, different laws, different copyright holders. 
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: xzx, you're fine if you live in china
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: how is 10000 computers attacking a military router in a dos attack controlled through a trojanned botnet not national security?
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: if you live overseas does it work that way>
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: ?
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Depends on the country you're living in, Illiden. I can only speak from what I know about the US.
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: at&t has alot of bandwidth
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: hmm im not really sure how it works even if u live in the us and u download from a server in china
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Xzx.... if you're installing and using software you havn't paid for, you're not using it legally. Therfore the owner of said software has grounds to sue you.
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: cause when they prosective people for mp3 sharing they got in trouble cause they were hosting it as long as u download it for your own use u wont get into trouble
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: you're basically saying crackers are free from prosecution because they know how to use a proxy, and if they want to steal 10000 credit cards it's no big deal
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: what kind of weapons could they buy with 10000 10000 dollar limit credit cards
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No Khef, I'm saying they have to prosecute once a crime has been comitted. Not watch everything and prevent it from happening.
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: preventing it from happening , isn't that why we're isolating korea and attacking afghanistan?
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Xzx.... They are more likely to go after people who are sharing the files, yes. But they could also go after people who downloading them.
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: actually i think most people just use free keys provided by people instead of cracking the software to use
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: hmm so downloading got no probleme as long as u dont share right
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Xzx, It is still against the law, and you can still potentially be brought to court over it.
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: ok good thing i dont listen to music hehe
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: hmm but all the cases i read about mp3 sharing fines came from those people that got caugyht sharing with kazar and bit torrent 
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Khef.. I prefer the whole innocent until proven guilty school of thought. Call me crazy, But I'd much rather them have a reason to go snooping.
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: dont think they prosecuted those that only downloaded but didnt share
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yes, Xzx that is true, Most if not all of the cases have been brought against people who were also sharing the files. However, that does not mean that is the limitation of the law.
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: hmm guess u have to live in a third world country to not get into trouble
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Or just don't break the law.
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Heh, third world countries have some of the most draconian laws of all :P
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Besides, if you were living in a true third world country, I doubt piracy would be your biggest concern, unless it involved firearms.
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ryu: You already got in, didn't you? BADUMBUM
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: yeah, maybe if things weren't as bad as they are today in the world that's ok, innocent till proven guilty and we know nothing philosophy
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: i wouldn't mind being snooped on by my isp from time to time to tackle the bigger threat since it exists
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: never noticed the amount of east indians working in intel or dell?
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: yeah i dont want everyone to have access to my internet usage :P
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: i'm not racist, but there seems to be more crazy east indian islamics than other skinned colors
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: by default it's possible somebody who doesn't want that either doesn't have a choice, cause he doesn't know how a kernel works
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: yeah seems like there's more crazy white cristians too :)
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: i never seen a real christian kill somebody or heard of it
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: except maybe for his country
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: hmm maybe cause the population of muslim is much higher than christian :P so by outliers u get more extremists :PP
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: heg
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: don't see christians sacrificing people to god
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: you're just not looking hard enough then
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: maybe i understood what christian is from bible
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: hmm didnt read the bibile or quran or koran whatever so i have no idea about reilgion almost :P
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: not all things people who say they represent jesus do are what jesus would do
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunsele Tech: a real christian would never kill anyone. neither would a real muslim
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: like any other liar
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: why? the bible tells you to
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: of course there are many interpreations even for a few lines in the bible
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}X's Noro Tech: Religious discussions are more for debate, folks. 
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: just depends on how they twist it to match their purposes
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunsele Tech: true. sorry
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: just imagine what the guy printing the circuit boards for some critical applications could be printing on them
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: especially since they're into wiring electrons now
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: intel has no quality control?
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: who knows who works in quality control
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: u mean governments placing subbiminal messages in them?
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: electron scanning microscopes with manual data by eye reading would be quite time consuming
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: 1 electron 2 electrons 3
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: what would be the point?
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: who wrote that software?
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: just saying that more strict is neccessary when they control nuclear bombs and satellites and bioexperiments
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: hmm i tthought most working in those places have to get secruity clearances and backgroun checks...
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: so does the military, but sometimes people change
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: oh u mean like espionage spies? and traitors? lol
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Anyone have experience adding linux to a windows box as a dual boot?
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: yeah
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: adding windows to linux box is the confusing one, gotta reinstall boot loader and stuff after
T1/r7/2009-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DekarShrike Tech: How would I build a script for a dead hooker?
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vote Flygo Tech: does anyone use Thunderbird on Windows 7?
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I do, yes.
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vote Flygo Tech: does your thunderbird display that little email icon in the notification area when you have unread emails?
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AyameRayne Tech: Question
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AyameRayne Tech: Anyone here?
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: Don't ask to ask. Just ask.
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PongMaster Tech: k, anyone know what character zmud 4.6 uses as the variable in triggers? * doesn't work
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you mean as a wildcard?
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PongMaster Tech: yah
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AyameRayne Tech: I am on Atlantis on a Mac and it hate Aardwolf.  Any suggestions?
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: use tf
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: or tt++
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Usher Tech: tt++
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Drtoki rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PongMaster Tech: you mean just use tt++ as the pattern?
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no, that was for ayamerayne
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AyameRayne Tech: I have to double enter commands to get it to work quite often
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PongMaster Tech: damnit
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PongMaster Tech: lol err... woops
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no idea aboot the triggers in ancient zmud. better use something else
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AyameRayne Tech: What is tt++
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: tintin++
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PongMaster Tech: heh, i'm way too used to 4.6.. any suggestions for something similar that won't have a super steep learning curve?
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AyameRayne Tech: What is it?
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AyameRayne Tech: SOmething I can add on?
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: A client...
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AyameRayne Tech: Does it run on mnac?
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: Yes, natively
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PongMaster Tech: any suggestions for an upgradel
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: tinyfugue or tintin.
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: dew eeet!
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PongMaster Tech: err, sorry haha i meant from ancient zmud... or just the new zmud? or is there something better out there...
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: Yes.. tinyfugue and tintin /are/ better  :)
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: zmud is based on tt, btw
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: the scripting anyway.
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: So, I'm still looking for a streaming podcast player. Any ideas? Requirements: 1.) Must be able to stream and download podcasts. Streaming is very important. 2.) Must be able to subscribe to a feed. 3.) Would really, really, REALLY like it to be a standalone player.
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: in "The invasion of the body snatchers", the aliens used pods to cast their influence on the unsuspecting humans.
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: And that has what to do with anything?
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: that explains alot
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the "pod cast" coincidence
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Hmmm... Miro seems to fit nearly all my needs. It'd be nice if it would stream without having to download, though. *sigh*
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaol Tech: How do I disable the bigmap plugin in AardMush?
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: it in file->plugins?
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaol Tech: Yes.
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: just highlight & disable should do it
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaol Tech: That's for always?
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: hmm, for always there might be an include file or something that loads on mush startup, i never learned how to script for it
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: temp fix though
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: you could look into the mushclient directories and find the file, then store it somewhere else till you want it again
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: or click "remove"
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: lol or that
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: anybody know if there's a plugin like grep for mushclient?
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: first thing's to scan | grep <mobname>
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: then second i want to get 2 north/etc and put that before the scan result
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yaomiqui shrugs helplessly.
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: You don't want grep. You just want regexp. :P
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: yeah, i guess i'd have to filter all scan lines and store each direction in a variable that gets replaced if nothing in it
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: i guess no way to do without scripting?
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are plugins to highlight cp targets in scan output, dunno if there's one that acts the way nimrodel's tf script does
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's all scripting
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon boggles at the concept.
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: alright
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: that was one of nimrodel's that i never downloaded
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?action=add&bbsubject_id=9783&page=1
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Plugin to display the output from the "scan" command in a miniwindow with keywords stored in a database highlighted.
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh I love nim's scan
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: helpful for places like tree of life...only shows what you ask it to
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: yeah, exactly
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: easier for exp at tirnanog and stuff too
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: You mean like "scan <pattern>"? :P
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon stares at the sky.
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hehe, tbh because I've used nim's from before that existed, I keep forgetting about that...thanks for the grounding ola ;-)
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a big advantage of nim's over the built-in, though, is that the client will search for any of the matching text...aard's doesn't
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so /scan red to just see evil MOBs
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: red would have to be part of its name for aard's scan red to work
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: so i installed this scan thing that you linked and i'm getting constant errors
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: every time i scan...error....if i sl on every time i move errors
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: "Trigger function "end_scan_trigger" not found or had a previous error."
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: anyone have an ideas why i'm in error message spam hell?
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: looks like it was just code snippets, so there's probably one for that function
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: i don't know how that script language is organized, probably just toss it in file with rest
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: what the heck i followed the firections for installing exactly :( i don't even see how i can possibly fix this
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: wrong mush version?
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: no i'm 4.43 o
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: just 100% constant errors from the moment i enable this thing until the moment i disable it
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: sounds like a really cool and useful plugin but to be honest i'm not a code guy and have no idea how i would go about fixing this at all...i can follow basic installation directions and thats about ti
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: then get rid of it
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: well thats not the solution i would prefer...making it work would be by far more ideal
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then wait
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: wait for what? 
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm not here. wait for that to end.
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i don't understand?
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're asking for help. Nobody else is stepping up for that. I'm on the phone, and will be for quite a while. Disable it until you get the help to have it work.
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: ohh i was totally confused i thought you meant something else entirely
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Burnout Tech: I was switching monitorrs around and now am back to a smaller monitor how would I resize the maps so I can see them?
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: which maps and what client?
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Burnout Tech: it is the room map and bigmap for mushclient
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Burnout Tech: I found them they were just tucked in behind my main screen
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: Does anybody know if you are sharing a map db for cmud, if the only thing you need to transfer over is just the dbm file?
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: knowing zugg, you'll probably need to sacrifice some virgins too
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WarLord Mars snickers softly.
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yaomiqui perks up, something must have grabbed his attention.
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i've just had a balloon pop up telling me that Wireless network Connection is now connected
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nice for it to tell me after being online constantly for the last 36+ hours
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: wonder if it was caused by an ip renewal? who knows (or cares)
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I've got a 3D array I want to find the maxima of... using Octave.
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Any ideas how I should use max()?
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Documentation is a bit sparse.
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I would go for "use max() correctly"
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien blinks innocently at Blessed Balaam.
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Which is what I'm hoping to find out from here :P
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: anyone have time to help troubleshoot that error spam i'm having with that scan mush plugin?
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: from the documentation, it looks like max( max( max( x ) ) ) would work.
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: Trigger function "end_scan_trigger" not found or had a previous error.
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: get that all over the place the second i enable it
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: you put plugin in correct MUSH folder?
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: put it in worlds/plugins/aardowlf i believe
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ser Gregor nods.
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: where is a link to the plugin you are using, Cookar?
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: lemme find that for you
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: that function looks familiar, but I do not have that plugin in any directory.
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=9783
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Well, I've poked at the plugin.  Seems to be working fine aside from the autoscan exploding.
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: hmm i get constant errors why would i have problems?
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: because your uncool
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Where did the first end_scan_trigger show up?
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: not sure what you mean?
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: lemme reenable again
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: second i type scan i get it
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: reinstall it.
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: and then its spams my screen constantly
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: strange that fixed it
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: weatehr
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: bah.  I kan tipe!
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Whenever that shows up again, try to capture the first error for the end_scan_trigger function.  That will show what broke.  Although I do not see much that will break within that function.
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make sure it's in your worlds\plugins folder, NOT in the worlds\plugins\Aardwolf folder
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: What does that matter?
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: mine has been doing well from worlds\plugins\Blainer
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: having it in Plugins probably lets it be loaded for more than one world
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: No, you can put plugins in whatever directory you want unless they refer to specific files based on relative directories.
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I did some quick test...installed it in worlds\plugins, worked, disabled/removed/quit/restarted/installed it from worlds\plugins\Aardwolf and it gives a stack traceback when I try addkey
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just reproduced that a few times
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: hrm.  Worked for me still in the worlds/plugins/Blainer directory.  Maybe it just can't be in worlds/plugins/Aardwolf
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as I don't use MUSH, my testbed is Aard's installer with no other worlds (changing the IP to my local machine to test text)
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: that plugin does require 4.43, which is ahead of AardMUSH
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I've run the update :P
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's why plugins have version numbers...won't install without the right version of MUSH
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I know it has the version number bit, which is why I was a bit confused when you said you used Aard's installer.
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I know why the autoscan broke, I just don't see a nice quick way to break end_scan_trigger
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when trying to help people on here, you need to have a reference system, not one that you've already hacked to hell
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so yeah, started with the aard installer, then ran a newer update from gammon
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: so it randomly breaks every once in a while regardless of what directory i've got it in hmm...
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: sounds like linux
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien starts to hear the faint sounds of a cricket chirping.
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft hears the faint sounds of a cricket chirping.
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: What is the first error?
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: moose error at line 10
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: lemm trigger an error again
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: Illegal Immigrant at line 15
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: alright if i note it to you? and abelinc maybe ? its a long one
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: balaam will be more help than me...may also want to put blainer on the note
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: hmm i think one of the error lines was over 79 characters
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: do you think it might break when it scans and sees too many people?
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: because i can break it pretty consistently by walking into recall
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: yep scanning at recall 100% of the time breaks it
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: Anyone here use sketchup on ubuntu?  (through wine of course)
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: on tt++ is there a way to match a charactor which is NOT a comma in actions? want to use it for invdata which has data separted by commas
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: [^,]
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Use the magic of regular expressions!
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: thanks, shame it's only partly documented
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Skull peers around himself intently.
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skull Tech: I had to buy a new hardrive for my laptop. I have windows XP discs that came with the Laptop when I bought it new. After I ran the boot CD and the Laptop restarted, everything looks fine EXCEPT now my sound doesnt work/Wireless doesnt pick up/and I have 5-6 (YELLOW ?)Marks lit up in Device Manager. Any suggestions ?
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Install your drivers.
T1/r7/2009-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: download the drivers from the manufacturer's site
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakkalan Darkhawk Tech: what aard needs to for about 20 a month make a system with spellup scripts, and sws built in as ya find and get them, no outside scripting allowed, would prob help gqs and other stuff but mainly help those of us users who are users an not scripters play the game
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakkalan Darkhawk Tech: I got new computer, and didn't have computer friend to help me set up spellup and sws, why I left game, got too far behind
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: you mean like "spellup learned" and "runto <areaname>" which are already in the mud?
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: cant you just transfer the aliases?
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakkalan Darkhawk Tech: they out now?
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: exactly, you should never stop mudding, ever
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakkalan Darkhawk Tech: I know of runto
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakkalan Darkhawk Tech: spellup learned didn't know of
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mentle Tech: hey, got a few questions concerning the mccp proxy if anyone is available
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakkalan Darkhawk Tech: wow thanks
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if on windows, better to use arkanes's PiMP proxy...or best to use a decent client which has proxy built-in
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakkalan Darkhawk Tech: using aards fmud since iyogi told my my zmud was clashing with Vista
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all of the major clients (cmud/zmud/mushclient/tinyfugue/tintin) have it built-in
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: vista was the problem...
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mentle Tech: how do you get the Arkane's PiMP proxy?  im using the aard one on help mccp proxy its just giving me alot of other crap on my prompt and channels
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: plenty of people have had zmud working on Vista.
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: zmud works on vista as long as you change a setting
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakkalan Darkhawk Tech: some how mine got corrupted
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger arkanes, go to that website
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mentle Tech: im also using zMud 4.62 but it doesn't have a built in mccp feature
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: the oldest zmud has compression
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakkalan Darkhawk Tech: shoot fmud not allow copy and paste
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not the oldest, stranton
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: 3.62 is still hosted and it does...  that's what i meant by oldest
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakkalan Darkhawk Tech: I paid for zmudd, have my code somewhere, can I redl
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakkalan Darkhawk Tech: life kind of boring here in Skagway,AK aard might help lol
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mentle Tech: okay well i guess my question wasn't related to mccp.  but i switched from mushclient to zmud and I have  abunch of extra crap next to my prompt and channels.  Any ideas how to make it go away?
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 0h 15
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "tags off"
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mentle Tech: Thank you so much! =D that did it
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakkalan Darkhawk Tech: will fmud allow macro keys, or have to redl zmud for that
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if by fmud you mean you're on a flash web page on Aard's site, you'll need to use an actual client
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: btw, it appears that the earliest version of zmud with mccp built-in was 6
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: hmm works for me with 3.62
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: only if you're running a proxy outside zmud
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enemy Tech: anyone know how to make text on zmud clickable for a command?
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: a command to send to the mud?
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enemy Tech: yeah, I'd start it with 'con all' then I could click any word displayed and have it perform 'kill (word)'
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You might be able to do it using MXP
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: you would have to have a db of the short descs with the keywords but it would be <send kill bmob></send> ... might be parsed by zmud if it is tell me
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: http://www.zuggsoft.com/zmud/mxp.htm mxp reference.
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: my code is wrong
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: <send href="way to check db here"></send>
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: for me i just create a bunch of sub triggers for the diffrent mobs
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Anyone have any opinion on ebook readers?
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: crunchpad coming soon thus irrelevant
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Crunchpad is not an ebook reader.
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Therfore irrelevant.
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: this is true, but i'm sure you can read books on it?  Why wouldn't you want to do more than just read books for the same price?
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: for linux i liked ghostscript, there's another xpdf that's cool too
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: By that logic I could just read the books on my laptop. Crunch pad has an LCD screen last I heard - Not an e-ink screen.
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: Yeah, do you really like e-ink though?
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I find it easier on my eyes, yes
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Not to mention it is batterylife++
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: True, I would wait though, last I heard they got color video working with e-ink but it's only like 9 fps
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: FPS is unimportant for ebooks =p
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: if you go page by page it's not bad
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: ...  You're not getting what I'm saying...
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I don't think i could read 9 pages/second anyway
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Besides, i think most if not all of the ebook readers out there are greyscale screens now anyway
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Been thinking of picking up one of the sony ereaders, or a kindle for xmas
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakkalan Darkhawk Tech: anyone use a mac
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakkalan Darkhawk Tech: making a comeback making sure Mac plausible
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I have a couple Macs
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: what's the max. print length for windows print drivers if there is one?
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Over 9000 pages.
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Drtoki snickers softly.
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: In all seriousness though, I don't think there is one.
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I mean, theres limitations on memory on the printer, and such but, not an issue from the computer
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zelog Tech: what is the correct syntax to connect via mccp?
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: What client are you using?
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zelog Tech: mcclient
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Why not use one with MCCP built-in?
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zelog Tech: always used just a telnet window
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Check out Tinyfugue
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: It's a GUIless client which is very nice.
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Drtoki rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zelog Tech: ive always connected telnet localhost 4010 but doesn't work now
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zelog Tech: the link for tinyfugue doesn't work off of aardwolf's site
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: googe it
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: s/googe/google/
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zelog Tech: i installed it and using it, but no clue how to use it
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: /help help and /help intro
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zelog Tech: i saw that, seems the same as a dos window except recent commands under unnamed1
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Unnamed1 is the default world
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: After you set up your .tfrc, it'll say "Aardwolf" or whatever you name it
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zelog Tech: /hist
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zelog Tech: /history
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zelog Tech: how do i see my stats, etc on the bottom?
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: statmon?
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: or do you mean setting up the status lines of tf?
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zelog Tech: in tf when i move a dir i don't see my stats, same when fighting
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Check out /help status_bar
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Oh, you mean your prompt?
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: You have to modify it to have a newline at the end of it
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Or modify your TF settings to not wait so long for more text on the same line
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: either works
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zelog Tech: not familiar with this at all, i'll have to play around with it
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zelog Tech: how come the mcclient isn't working by typing in telnet localhost 4010 like i used to do?
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: just set the lp flag to on.. you'll see prompts like normal
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Could be a number of things... is the mcclient running?
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zelog Tech: i have mcclient running and then open up dos window and type telnet localhost 4010
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zelog Tech: i type in the telnet and the mcclient shows new connection to port 4010 from 127.0.01:4257
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zelog Tech: redirecting to 69.54.155.126 aardwolfmud.org 4010 failed: 10060
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: There's your problem.
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: aardwolfmud.org isn't in use anymore -- see Mudinfo board
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zelog Tech: ok i havent been on in a bit
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: Is there a limit to how many macros, etc You can make on MUSH?
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: no, just aliases in mud
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i think you would run out of keys to macro
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: if you have room your hard drive there shouldn't be a problem
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: Excellent.  So speedwalks to mobs isn't too absurd?
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: seems absurd to me
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deori Tech: time consuming, yes, but not impossible
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: i imagine it'd be easier to use a database like minisql
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: much more efficient at least
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: otherwise if you do manually it'd have to scan through thousands of lines of text each mobwalk
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: iwuvaard has a mobdatabase for location, so you could start with that and fill it in
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: what do I need to do to turn the tags on for the Music Channel on the MushClient?
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: how do you get a semicolon to show up?
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Use a tilde in front of it.
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: eat lots of semi-fiber?
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: that didn't work
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: ~
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: try ;
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: and by that i mean two semicolons
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: ; test
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: whee
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: do you know how I can fix the music channel on MUSH?
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: what's wrong with it?
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: the tags are messed up so I don't get the name of the channel or who said it, just the text.
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: hmm either a bug with tags or a bug with the plugin...
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: it's been this way since I installed the musch client
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Did you install Fiendish's fix?
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: no, where do I get that from?
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: works fine for me, but then i disabled the plugin :)
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: not-porn.com
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: haha, I don't know if I can go to that at work
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: they flag all of the websites we visit
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Er, not-porn.com/Aardwolf.
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Well, it's true. It's not porn.
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: There was a bug with the channel capture part. Music has channel tags, just like any other channel.
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: yea, but that would raise some flags. is there a direct link or could you e-mail it to me?
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Fiendish fixed it.
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Sure, hold on.
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: Don't trust him, he is a figment of your imagination.
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: then I should solve this quickly...
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xela Tech: anyone?
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: oh my goodness i've managed to completely destroy my mush setup while trying to get this scan thing to work propery
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: now i'm trying to reinstall my brodcast state.xml
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Backups are golden.
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: so i can at least have the spellup script working
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: yes i have all my xml files backed up
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: what is the error
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: but all of a sudden when i am reinstallying the xml files i'm getting random errors
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: random?
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: Line  172: Error parsing script (problem in this file)
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: well that means there is a syntax error in the xml file, DL the original if you don't have a working backup
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: this makes no sense...all i did was c/p my world files to another directory while reinstalling then copied them back but now when i am installing them they don't work :(
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: well pluigns won't stop other plugins working, it's a  problem in the offending xml file or a setting in the world file
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: on redownloading getting error parsing script at line 133 :(
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: for broadcast_state?
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: yep
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: ok gimme a sec
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: seems like i may be msising some modules
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: pluginhelper.lua?
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: but i never ever downloaded that before
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: I think you have Bast's version of broadcast_state
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: there i found the pluginherlper.lua
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: yea
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: check all the require files are in the same dir or the lua dir under MUSH
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: yeah i finally found that
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: yay spellup script working again :)
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i am not a tech person in the slightest :)
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i need my monitor to be about 10 times bigger to accommodate all these plugins
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Need a small bit of linux help, if someone wouldn't mind
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: what's up?
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: get a couple more textbooks to sit on
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Quadrapus makes his hands like moose antlers and shrieks, "MOOSE!!"
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: how do you people with a million miniwindow plugins see what you are doing with the main window?
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Proper placement. :D
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: any chance you would post a screenshot of proper placement in action? because apparently i am improper at placing
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: most of my windows have minimize aliases and mouse clicks, only have them up when needed helps
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: or buy a second monitor, a cheap one to put chat on
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i would need second graphics card correct?
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: No, not if your graphics card supports dual monitor.
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: hmmm where would i check that? i have two outputs one for widescreen and one for normal
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: have a look at you card, does it have two out lets?
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: yep it does
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Then it can support dual monitors.
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I have one hdmi output and one standard. Got them both in use on mine.
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: k i have a second monitor just sitting here how hard would this be to set up
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: you can get an adapter to make an old monitor on the new out lets
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods at Blainer.
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: Nvidia card?
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: (knowing that i suck at this)
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: yeah i got 2 on mine
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: lemme check
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: adapters that is
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods.
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a card can be single-monitor but offer choice of jack types, so 2 jacks doesn't always mean dual card
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Same here. Had to get an hdmi to standard adapter.
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: 256 MP ATI Radeon Pro
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: eww :P
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: X1300
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: google your card see if it supports dual monitors
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: google the manufactures page not the ATI page
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: iahve both monitors in but they are showing the same thing ?
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: except the crappy one is compressed because it is not wides screen
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: control panel is a wonderful thing
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: use the ATI software to setup the monitors how you want them, at least thats how Nvidia does it
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right-lick your desktop, properties
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: settings, click extend my windows desktop
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: with Nvidia the software from Nvidia does a better job, on my system anyway
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: on my system you get to nvidia's control the way abe's saying
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: hmm foolng around with display properties 
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: there we go
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: *Yay!*  Go Cookar!!!  Yaomiqui cheers him on.
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: but when i maximize mush it is still only going to the one screen
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: don't max it stretch it
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: so stretch it
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: omfg this is a kajillionty times better
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: amen
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: ok so quick question...the vertical length of my secondary monitor seems to be "off" so when i drag a window over to it I lose the upper corner (can't click x to close etc)
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: is there anyway to format that so it doesn't do that?
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is this a CRT or an LCD?
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: crt is secondary
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for an LCD, make sure they both have the same vertical resolution...if it's a CRT, it may be overscanned, and you'd use the front-panel controls to shrink it until it's all visible
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: this really is amazing i should have done this years ago
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You snicker softly.
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: i like it, cause i can mud and watch movies at the same time
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: anyone on ubuntu 9.10 that can tell me the x server version its using?
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Milkshake: If you can tell me how to find it, i will tell you
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: if its Xserver-xorg-core version is 2:1.6.4-2-ubuntu4
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: thanks :)
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Np. Is that what you were after?
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: yes I think so
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: xserver-org is 1:7.4+3ubuntu7 ..
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: YOUR FACE is active
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: has anyone fooled around with basts cp/gq/quest mini window noters?
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i was just going to install all of those instead of the old one i used but it seems to gag cp check and not display any mini window
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: or alternatively does anyone have a cp miniwindow noter that is draggable like the map miniwindow?
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: quest amdn camp mini-windows available from gammon.com.au
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: just fiond the latest dated one in pluigns section of forum
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: are those basts? because thats where i got the ones that won't work
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: no Nick's
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: not used Bast's
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: confused because the only gq one i see in nicks thread is by bast
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: nick has a cp noter but thats all i see
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: ahh heres something strange...i only can see the tick timer if i have the mush window maximized
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: nevermind i'm an idiot 
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: in Lua, if I have {"first_key"="value"} how do I get the first key name with out knowing it's name and without looping the whole table?
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: my scan pluign can be used to highlight names of mobs from gq if you make a trigger to for gq as described on the forum post, that'll help when you find the area their in
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: mis
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Hmm, if my screen has been flickering for a couple weeks now, like something with water in it does (which this does not, i can promise that) can i blame it on a vista drive failing?
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: sounds more like a failing monitor/vid card :)
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Know of a quick fix for that? The flickering is annoying, and im afraid i may lose my screen completely
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: crt?
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: whats that?
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Cathode ray tube monitor.
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Are you using a laptop?
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Yes
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: you could try reducing the refresh rate?
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Then you aren't using a crt. But yeah, try reducing the refresh rate. :)
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it's the laptop screen, I'd blame the ribbon cable
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the hinge
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Oo, getting pinched? Or just loose?
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hopefully loose
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods.
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: ok so i just finished reinstalling mush...i'm trying to get some plugins to work simultaneously with a bast plugin but he wants me to overwrite lua files that already exist
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i've tried to isolate basts plugins in a bast subdirectory but he is still wanting those lua files in my main mush directory
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: I only have 60 as a choice of refresh rate
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: try using the existing lua files?
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Will updating the video driver posibly help?
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Not if it's a loose cable.
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Sure, Verizon's doubled down on the 3G map ads in response to AT&T's false advertising lawsuit, but eventually the company's lawyers had to file a response and, well, ain't nobody backing down in this one. Here's the freaking introduction:
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: AT&T did not file this lawsuit because Verizon's "There's A Map For That" advertisements are untrue
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: AT&T sued because Verizon's ads are true and the truth hurts. <-- sorry for 3 part post.. darn semicolons
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: hmm using #g uses a lot of the cell phone baattery so u have to put a charger on while u surf?
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: i mean 3g
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: actually, AT&T sued Verizon because Verizon did not use red colours that were distinct enough.
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Er, no. =p 
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: AT&T is suing because their map does not give a .. how did they put it.. an accurate representation of their coverage area.
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: The maps they used only showed 3g coverage - not edge or gprs coverage.
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And Xzx.. to the best of my knowledge 3g tends to be kinder to battery life them Edge
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: 3g sucks battery life much quicker than edge.
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: so 3g is pretty much useless? lol lugging into a n outlet same as a labtop hehe
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Not from what I've seen, Balaam.
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Can't find the better map for Verizon & AT&T that I found earlier.  It highlights the 3G areas more.  Also shows full AT&T coverage.  Verizon still wins hands down, but it is much closer than the Verizon ads imply.
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Balaam.. it's including edge coverage though. The ad compares 3G to 3G
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Verizon's map has both 3G and edge shown.  They are just different shades of red.  But they do have the VASTLY superior 3G coverage.
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Verizon doesn't have edge.
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: HSDPA, or whatever.
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Too many acronyms to bother with...  I'll deal with 2G, tehn.
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And the map in the ad does strictly show 3G service areas.
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod.. verizons entire network supports 3g now.
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: can I set 'final' status to a variable in VB ? and if so what's the syntax ?
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: what's final represent?
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: in java it represents that it's not modifiable, but it may only apply to functions or something
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: so you want a constant?
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: yeah
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: in VB, you use the CONST statement, I believe
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: thank you much. I'll dig into that
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: the helpfile should mention constants somewhere
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: yeah, that word escaped me for some reason :) and yes that's the proper syntax
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: PaperTiger Panzer is expressing how much wootness Urwin exhibits.
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: heh, that's the language I started on, way back when it was just BASIC
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: java just totally mystifies me, but that's probably just simple syntax stuff
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: and C/C++, that was just painful
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: the flow was good, but naming is important dammit!
T1/r7/2009-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: hmm i started in visual basic and assembly hehe
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: Anyone here run zmud in wine?
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: don't bother
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: Why not?
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you'll have to bother to find out
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Just switch to TT++
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: I am using it already.
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: So keep using it.
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: I would rather not.
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Then you're hopeless.
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Drtoki is agreeing with that Daloran person again...
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, use the client you're told to use!
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: Why am I hopeless?
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Because TT++ is win and awesome
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: I disagree.
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Then you're hopeess =p
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: and that's why you're hopeless
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: 2 words - multiple windows
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Tintin can do that as well.
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not natively
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: not technically, you just have to run more than one instance of tt
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Or write to files and use tail
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ok, no mapper then :P
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: or use #split and pipe the desired output
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: TT++ has a mapper.
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: well, zmud mapper is supposed to be as good as it gets
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No, the zmud mapper sucks.
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: can't argue. haven't used any mapper
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Happydog Madcatz Tech: What's a simple place to host a text file for a relatively small number to download?
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: someone help me get the spellup script for mushclient....!!!!
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: plz...
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you go to the website I referenced?
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: yes but i am not understanding what to do...??
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: click "Bast's Plugins"
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: if you could help me it would be great..!!
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then click "Aardwolf_Spellups"
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: done...next?
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: ??
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: read the page
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: .....aaaaggh.....plz help...
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: help me get spellup script for mushclient mud....!!!!!
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amel Tech: something wrong with the in-mud spellup command?
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: i need a script to give spellups to others. i use mushclient MUD.
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: how can you upgrade your mushclient to be able to use MadCatz's plug-in?
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: go to mushclient.com, download the latest version, install
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tenlorn, www.mushclient.com
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: too complicated!
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tenlorn sobs in misery.
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: call your "computer friend", give him 50 bucks, tell him you want to upgrade mushclient
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: I'll just get Best Buy to do it
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: okay how do i get the script??
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: raunaq, you do what the web page told you to do...
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: i am not getting it ...!!!!
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: Gonf Tech: call your "computer friend", give him 50 bucks, tell him you want to upgrade mushclient
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: okay .....can someone plz explain me the steps...
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: turn on the computer
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: Pick up your phone.
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: wait for it to all load
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: call your friend who is "good with computers"
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: make small talk for a minute or two
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: done...lol..
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: ask him about his mother, you know she was sick for a while
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: then say "I want you to upgrade mushclient for me. I will pay you."
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: negotiate a price.
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: follw your friend's instructions.
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: i have the latest mushclient ....v4.40
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: 4.43
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: ha
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: actually 43.3........ha ha ha ha...
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: n i have that...
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: ha ha ha ha indeed
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: hey you may want to clean your keyboard, since it seems your . key is sticking
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: ok , guys now what??
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what would jesus do?
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amel sits down and thinks deeply... What would Chuck Norris do?
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: shut it down, you've done enough for one day
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: jwrtfm
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: guys...this is cereal...focus..
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: c'mon...
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: this isn't like dell tech support
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amel Tech: actually...
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: ok, i have done everything it told me to now how do i load the plugins ...
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: File->Plugins
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: hey guys can you help me make a mushclient trigger to spell other people up?
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: just use the %1 command
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: can you help me to do that
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: nope
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: omg jk
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: shift+ctrl+8
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: I have the latest version of mushclient: zmud 7.21
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: Daevix it's sold in the shop there
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: mischan
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: ok i accidentally moved my main aardwolf window above where i can reach the top bar...now i want to move it down a little how can i do so? mush
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: sell your computer, there's no hope
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: try Window->Cascade?
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasyrn Tech: is there a way to send to both variable and world in mushclient?
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for future reference, cookar, here's other ways to accomplish it which don't totally weird out the placement of windows...(1) type initaard or initfull...that'll put the windows into a stock configuration that fits your screen resolution...(2) right-click the tab for the window and select move...then don't try to use the mouse, but press the down arrow on your keyboard and move the window with that
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: ahhh i was doing that move thing but trying to use the mouse
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vasyrn, sure, have the setvariable statement, then have the send statement
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasyrn Tech: not from script, from the window
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasyrn Tech: im not really script savvy
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: variables are only relevant to scripts...
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasyrn Tech: sorry, from alias
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasyrn Tech: basically I'm trying to send "west" to the client and astdir=west with one keypress
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: alias setmystuff, in the action have a setvariable declaration, hit enter for a new line, and have a send declaration
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasyrn Tech: I have a window in mushclient that says alias at top
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasyrn Tech: I go to edit alias
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasyrn Tech: hold on, quest
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasyrn Tech: then in this window I can choose to have the send contents go to variable and world...I want then to go to both places
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasyrn Tech: but it only goes to one
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you want it to go to execute, and then put in the big box that you want it to set the variable and do the send
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasyrn Tech: how does execute differ if i may ask?
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasyrn Tech: oh it treats it like a script?  good show, thanks
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: Has someone made a moon script for cmud yet ?
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Via LifeHacker - "The Pirate Bay, the largest, most popular BitTorrent tracker on the internet, has faced seriously troubled times this year, and today, the site's operators announce that they're officially closing their doors for good. "
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: nooooo
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karranir Tech: Isohunt.com
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: bah, best torrent tracker on the net
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not true. there's still openbittorrent and they use magnet links and dht now
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: best? roflol
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the pirate bay is a lousy tracker
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: i found the most quality torrents from it, less dead links than other sites had
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that's because you're not smart enough to use private trackers
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also, the community sucks really bad there
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: just read some comments and look at the upload speeds and peer seeding habits
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: http://torrents.to/ searches all of the major public sites
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: tpb sucks from every angle
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: i averaged 100+ kb/s on the torrents i got from it
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that's meta-search, daloran. we're talking aboot trackers
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: mininova and stuff was usually around 30
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I am aware, Dag.
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: still - i get 100kbs down from a public tracker on a torrent with thousands of seeds and 1,5mbs from private trackers with 1-10 seeds
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also, most newer stuff is infested with fake uploaders
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: demonoid is half-decent public tracker tho
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Too bad they're down for the time being.
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i just like tpb because they take all the flak
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: demonoid tracker is up
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Is it back up? When I checked yesterday, it wasn't.
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: at least it was some days ago when i checked
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: can you tell the difference between a tracker and the site?
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Bah, you did say tracker, not site.
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Haha.
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Yeah, I know the trackers are up, just not the site.
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i hope tbp will stay up forever and catch more bullets so my trackers can mind their own business :)
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Anyone have any input on seedbox services?
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what do you mean?
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ah.. seedbox.. server out in the cloud to do torrenting/seeding with, to free your home internet connections bandwidth
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: upload .torrent file, it does all the torrenting, you just download from it via ftp/http/?/profit
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm asking because i had no idea what you meant by 'input'
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ah, as far as specific services, or opinions on them in general
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i have 2 seedboxes. one at home, one rented abroad. they're great.
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Just being throttled to 45kbps upload is a bit of an irritant
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: use encryption
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Doesn't matter.
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It's any upload not just torrents
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: change your isp
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Not much of an option, really.
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: move out from your parents then
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: hurhur.
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Only other option in this area is SBC, or companies that lease from SBC.
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: move to a country with a decent infrastructure then :P
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: More or less stuck with comcast.
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Better then being in hawaii, I'd imagine
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: mischan.
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what's wrong with hawaii?
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nothings wrong with it.
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hmm. wasn't aware such places existed :\
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Hawaii?
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no. perfect places. you know, nothing wrong etc
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Heh. I wasn't aware you asking me to cite an example of what was "wrong" with hawaii
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I'm sure theres a myriad of things there to complain about.
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: how do i make my terminal black in tt++, or make aard display colors onto a white bg
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: or how do i make a terminal black bged
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Which OS
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: ...linux? fedora...
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: running under X? Or its own session
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: under x
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: if under X its Edit > Profile Preferences > Colors / Background
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: oh, thanks! i could have figureed that out in a minute i guess....lazy :(
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: anyone have thinkpad x200 or x200s, i need a new laptop and was going to get one of those
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I love my lenovo, but it is a fullsize lappy. From what I've seen of the x200s, they are built just as well.
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: whats the best strategy in zmud to track time of an event (like timer starts when event a happens and stops when event b happens
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: obviously two triggers but whats the best time tracking method.
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: record time at start, subtract when finishes
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: best method for most clients
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: remember to stop and curse zugg several times along the way, that usually helps
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You snicker with him about your shared secret.
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: yes, yes, it does
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: also suggesting he's an incompetent wanker
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: ken keys might have some eccentricity in his choice of scripting syntax, but zugg takes the cake
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: arighty thanks :0
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i just reinstalled mush the other night...does anyone know where i can download the fixed version of the chat window?
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: as it it doesn't pull out info notices and lops of names from music and some auction stuff
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?id=7991&page=4
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: Is there an easier route to subtract start time/end time of an event in zmud?  or do i have to store hour/min/seconds seperately and then create a series of if/then statemnts?
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: neither ZMud nor CMud have built-in functionality to handle time math.
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: lame sauce....
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: although I suppose you could use the vbscript/javascript/etc versions, which do
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: I'm at home and just downloaded the mushclient from mushclient.com so I can use MadCatz's profile, is someone available to help me configure it the way the Aard client is?
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: his plugin, rather
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: where can I download all of the plugins?
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Does anyone know what kind of trouble i would have formatting my Tb external harddrive that is compatible with windows, and requires formatting for TigerX and MacOs, if i switch my OS to Ubuntu?
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: if you download the Aard client install it then install latest MUSH from gammon.com.au then install MadCatz's pluign you will have Aard client with new plugin and latest MUSH
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Nod. Just download theaardmush THEn download the newest version and everything will be compatible
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: ok, thanks
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: unistall latest version of MUSH you just installed before installing in the order I said
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: what's the diff between tt++ and tinyfugue, and which one's better
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: thanks so much, guys
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Err, wow guess you gotta decypher that since my KB is wacking out.
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: TT!!!!
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: !!!?!!111!1
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: of course, if you ask Abe, he will say Tf
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: what's the diff
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: tt has a coding language similar to c/zmud whereas tf is way diff and has a steeper learnign curve
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: of course tf is better :-)
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: how is it way diff
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: I knew it was only a matter of time abe.
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Abe, show him how you define something in tf
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's only steeper if you're already used to zugg's
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: i thought the benefit of those was being able to use any scripting lang, like python
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: rather than using its fake lang
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: They can
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: both can do that
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but they all have their own native syntax
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: so irregardless of what their native syntax is...which one is better
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: And CLI can use multiple languages, but the default language that it recognizes is different
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what's better, Mac or PC?
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: PC, cheaper
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Mac, Linux
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: It depends on how you look at it
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're asking a similar question...and would get similar answers...
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: then tell me what's different.....if they're so extroadinarily different, how the hell are they
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Basically, an advanced DOS
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they can both do the same things, but you do them differently
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're used to zmud, then tintin will be familiar
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Its like using terminal in mac, and cprompt in windows, but with advanced features
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: what if i'm used to zmud and mush
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mush isn't like anything else, and tf isn't like anything else, syntax wise
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: mush uses lua for coding?
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: I went from mush, to tt.
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: you /can/ use Lua in tt, but i hate Lua so i don't
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it is set up to by default, yes
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: lua is an option in mush
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: lua is the default in mush....
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: which of the two interacts with external scripting better
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: If you visit the website in my finger, i have some scripts for tt, you can look and see if the default language suites you.
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: both have the same capabilities, stop asking about capabilities
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Nod, abe is right. The both are vertually the same, just different ways to go about it
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: ok fine. how do the two do the equivalent of zmud or mush in terms of piping data to another window
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Damn, my spelling is whack today.
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you've used zmud, and have not wanted to bang your head against the wall, then you'll get zero to useful faster in tt
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Both can pipe to a different termial faily easy, but neither have miniwindows unless you code yourself some
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: both pipe to another window the same way...pipe to a file and tail the file
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: does mush have database support?
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: so i would have multiple terminals open
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: It has SQlite
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you want GUI, then use a GUI client
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Ramier: yes
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chicomecoatl nods at you in agreement. 
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: how do you do it? multiple terminals?
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: GUI != CLI clients
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Windows, or Linux?
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: what do you do
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: xterm window
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: multiple xterms?
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Depends on whether you are a Windows or linux user, as to /how/ it is done.
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: On windows you have to use cygwin
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if sitting at a PC, I putty to my server to run tf...then /show-map will open an xterm for the map, /show-ftalk will open ftalk window, etc
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: aaah ok
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: thats what i was looking for
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I use xming as my x11 server on windows
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: And i just do #run {chat} {tail -h chats.tx
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: and then you just position the extra windows however
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: that's my biggest problem with cli, too many windows :(
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you like and use gui windows, then cli is a hack
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: it doesn't get any better in any other client
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I always capture, but rarely open my capture windows (or even the automap window)
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: that plugin was AWESOME
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: I don't use either as well, but i have it captured just in case, or to grep back for info
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so I have the capability when I need it, but it's not something I use often
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which ten, sorter?
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: yea
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, I haven't looked at it yet, but it sounded slick...I'll never use it, but I'll write one for tf ;-)
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: seems kinda slow
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: works like a dream
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: slowness is because it's not doing it virtually
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Nod, iw as debating porting Madcatz's plugin to tt if he is ok with it.
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he said why in the initial note...he's literally moving the items around, and the MUD only processes at pulses
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: how do I set up a trigger that will recast a spell that I lose concentration casting? I only know how to write triggers and aliases on Zmud
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Oh, Abe; Recall when we were talking about spellup scripts?
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: help spelltags...or use bast's improved version of gammon's spellup script
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Once i figured out the #loop and #list commands it was a breeze.
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh good :-)
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: does bast's allow for manual casting?
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I don't know of any that doesn't allow manual casting
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you still get affon/affoff when you manually cast
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: well gammon's was like fully automatic
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: All /can/ allow manual casts, it just depends on what affects it can cause the script
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Gammon's was nice enough to use the spellup pause and spellup resume, which i included for my tt version
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast's started out with gammons, and made it better
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: better?
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I use /spellbreak to toggle being on break :-)
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: the only thing i wish bast did was put recovery timers at the top
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Cookar: easy enough to fix
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, better. works with skills, doesn't have the timing issue occasionally, etc
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: recon and recoff triggers
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: easy and tech and cookar don't go together
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/Aardwolf_Spellups, pretty close to the top lists some changes bast made from gammon's
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: lol I install fedora, and it hard locks at the first sound played every time
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: at least ubuntu waited until I tried a proporietary driver :p
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karranir Tech: I just saw 'Milshake Tech' and was wondering if that was the Dairy Queen version of a Sandwich Artist
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: anyone know why i'm having trouble reading the quest/gold reward for Campaign report?  I'm assuming it has something to do with all the spaces before the actual output...
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: Anyone know why when i try to read in the quest points earned on a campaign it won't read it.  It's probablyb ecause of the spaces before the message but how do i counteract that problem?
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: read in?
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: what are you talking about? 
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: You mean a trigger?
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: in zmud i'm trying to get the 29 out of '                 Reward of 29 quest points added.'
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: problem is when i try it won't read it like a normal trigger would read out
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: %grep %d?
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: #grep*
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: don't anchor it
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: are you saying remove the "new line" check drtoki?
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yaomiqui kicks Chicomecoalt right in the grep!
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yaomiqui throws his hands up in disgust at his lousy typing skills! 
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: what? just use regexp and don't anchor the start of the line with a "^" 
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: ahh ok. tnx
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: what do people use to play videos on ubuntu
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: mplayer, or vlc
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: ok
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: vlc rox
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dassadec Tech: anyone familiar with mush client
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dassadec Tech: my mushclient when I save says access was denied what would be causing this
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vist
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: vista is causing that
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vista
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dassadec Tech: anyway I can disable it it does them same on another game I play
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 3 options...(1) turn off UAC...(2) run it as admin...(3) install somewhere other than program files
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dassadec Tech: first what is uac
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: User account control
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: user account control...it's what keeps asking "are you sure?"
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: how do people play 720p x264 videos efficiently on ubuntu?
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: uhh with vlc?
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: windows emulator?
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft blinks innocently.
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dassadec Tech: how would I turn it off and will it lead to other problems
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Ill let you know as soon as ubuntu finishes installing ;)
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you turn it off in the users control panel
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: hmm, it appears 3.62 zmud doesn't have mccp
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I told you that the other day :P
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: you did, but i thought for sure it was on, i guess i was too tired
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: i can't get 7.21 to work in ubuntu :(
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: so use something native.
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: I would rather not.  I do not like any of them.  tt++ is the closest, but would really rather not use it.
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Why not, tt rules!
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dassadec Tech: what would the uac be located under in the control panel.
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: click on a user, click go to the main user account page, then make changes to your user account, then change security settings
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dassadec Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: muhaha i'm not sure how but i just got it working (7.21 that is)
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: are any mud clients ncurses based
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rau Tech: tt++ had an ncurses mode if I recall correctly
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: tech -h
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Godsmack Tech: anyone here? i got a big problem
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: didn't realise how much resources windows update hogged when it ran in the background
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: yeah, sucks eh?
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: everything grinds to a halt while it prepares to install updates
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: what's the min specs for a laptop to play World of War, for my ten year old
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: you'd be better off asking in the WoW fora than here
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: I trust these guys
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Or just googling: Wow minimum specifications
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: as a general rule we don't discuss other online games on public channels here
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: since this is a free game, which thrives mainly through the toil of lasher and others, and donations, it's kind of disrespectful to talk about how to play games which compete for your time with this game
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: (thereby assisting in taking away time spent here, enjoyment had here, and in the long run revenue from donations, since one would be less likely to donate if one weren't playing here)
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: your notion of disrespect escapes me but sp be it
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: Lasher et al. provide a service free of charge and you're going to use that service to find a way not to use that service in the future
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: thereby decreasing their income from their essentially "pay what you want" set-up
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: I play, I donate, I help others, I also trust the opinion of this tech crowd
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: indeed, they are a knowledgeable group
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: the two games are not mutually exclusive
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: at any one moment in time they are
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: but figuring out a way to use a competitor through this service is disrespectful
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: again these two games do not compete
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: they do at any given instant
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: they're both mmo's, aren't they?
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: or muds, even
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: does anyone vote for wow on http://www.topmudsites.com/
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not sure you can
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: they don't really need it
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: Furthermore, it's not my rule. It's a game-wide rule. I didn't make it, I'm just letting you know about it. At this point you can choose to accept it, and play by the rules which Lasher has asked of you, or you can think I'm an asshole and break the rule.
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: I don't consider wow a competitor, my opinion, that's not the point, I was looking for advise
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: It is the point
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: the point is don't ask for advice on how to use competitors on public channels
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: its a rule?
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: go on gossip and talk about how awesome your mud is and see how long you last
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: if it's a rule , I am wrong , if you are making stuff up it on you
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: I'm really not trying to ruin yours or your son's fun on WoW, but this isn't the venue for that question
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also, it's quite googleable
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=wow+minimum+requirements
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: no problem, no disrespect
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: notoffended, I promise
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you are too!
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RESPECT! Or .          Jilted goes batty!
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: what do i put in place of #pri when converting from zmud to cmud?
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: anyone know?
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: I don't believe it's required at all, from what I read.
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: ah
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Because of the way CMUD operates and prioritizes tasks, it isn't required.
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Talleron nods.
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: damn, some fonts are displayed in bold by ff3. can't find the problem :\
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yay for google
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: You're google-fu is strong.
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Sigh, need a little advice on IPA and LaTeX.
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: latex safer
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: unless you're allergic
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Namely, I can't get the symbols to compile.
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: You beat me to it, Farkyss.
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what is the address in numbers of the test port
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Have you read 'help ip' yet?
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Or for that matter, help address or even help ports.
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: in theory shouldent this work in cmud #loop %params {#alarm {+.7} {say hi}} ?
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jyscal Tech: Hello. Could anyone help with a MCCP proxy issue i seem to have. I have downloaded the Mccp proxy which loads fine by itelf, but oncei start the client it closes the connection with :  failed 10046 connection terminated. I have changed the config file to 4010 aardwolfmud.org 4010 it wont seem to accept. Any ideas on what i may try?
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: is another program already using the port?
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: that's as far as i go with this issue btw.
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jyscal Tech: No, none. Once it starts it says no current connections, accepting connections. oh ok thanks though. 
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: See Board Announce, Note 876, that domain is no longer valid.  You'll want to use aardmud.org or aardwolf.org
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jyscal Tech: That makes alot of things clearer, thanks.
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: NP
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CryForNoOne Tech: anyone knows a program what i can use to remove black stripe from picture of car registration nr... i assume stripe is done in paint or smth
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CryForNoOne Tech: i wanna check car history nothing doggy 
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: I assume so you can see what the reg number is?  You can probably only do that if it's a .png type file and the image isn't flattened.
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CryForNoOne Tech: cant do it on .jpeg?
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: anyone else having problems connecting to STEAM?
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i think it's a bit off that you can't play the $200worth of games you've bought just because -their- network is down
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: I can connect
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: start it in offline mode
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neleus Tech: iirc you can play offline
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: can't even reinstall it
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: that's truly disgraceful
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: this is quickly annoying the snot out of me
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i think the patronising error message just riles me more
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: well i certainly won't be downloading any more games through steam again
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if everytime their client fupps up, i have to pay #40 to get my games back
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i have never had to pay to get games back i have had the same ones for years on there
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: on that cp noter miniwindow thing how could i add the function that clears the window when it sees this text:
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: Campaign cleared.
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: downloading 60gb of games data will cost me money, nothing to do with buying the game
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: and before you ask, yes, they are legally culpable 
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sirene Tech: Any iPhone experts online?
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: what do you neeD?:)
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sirene Tech: I have ringtones in iTunes, they even sync with my phone and show up on the device in iTunes, but I don't see them on my phone.
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sirene Tech: They show up in iTunes as ringtones
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sirene Tech: They're under 30s
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sirene Tech: Any ideas why I don't see them listed in ringtones?
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: Anyone use Fiendish's channel capture script?
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: really should get everyone to boycott steam until allow you to produce a game install cd media
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: stick it to the man with torrents
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: TAKE THE POWER BACK
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it's not about paying, it's about being able to retrieve your paid for content
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: WE GOOTTA TAKE THE POWER BACK
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: UGHHHH
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: that was my reaction, too, since i'm now gamesless
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: NINJA NINJA NINJA
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: NO MORE LIES
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you're on the wrong channel for that
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: No shouting please =)
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: we're discussing torrents and technology
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: TAKE IT BACK YALLLL
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: No shouting please =)
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: uggghhhhh
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Sorry, I actually couldn't care less. I was just doing a Starling.
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: osnap
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: make my poker sites clear faster
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: should expect starling to shout, she's a woman, that's what women do
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Sign up to a LOAD, one will come faster than the others
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: lets see how many days it takes Steam to reply
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: threaten them that you're gonna TAKE THE POWER BACK
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: don't be silly, just told them what happened, why it's an issue, and how disappointed i am
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: hopefully can get something out of them as a gesture
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: still think big computer retailing companies should be forced by law to operate full recycling facilities in every country they sell
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Have fun paying 5x as much for a computer
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: yes, i will
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I call BS.
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: social engineer
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: and everyone should, since if that's how much it ends up being, it'll reflect the actual cost of the unit
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: except it prolly won't put more than $50 on the price
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: economies of scale and all
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: who wants to build my next computer?
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: we certainly don't -owe- the computer industry anything, starling, it's by their hand that people are basically forced into replacing their laptops every 3 years
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: I pay property taxes that include waste disposal, If my tax goes down based on recycling computer parts, ok, other than that its just adding a hidden tax on the tax I pay
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Air-Borne Anadorr Tech: hi there, a friend of mine wants to order a notebook from usa. what manufacturer would you recommend ?
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if they knew they'd have to recycle it at the end, they'd probably put a bit more effort into making them recyclable
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: what do they want to be able to do with it?
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: still a hidden tax based on your world view
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: not over here, we can't throw out electrical goods with household trash
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: legally, nobody in europe can
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: so you dump it in your neighbour's instead
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spodgy Tech: the bin truck would start making funny noises
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: unless their councils says so
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: nor here, but I still pay tax to have it collected
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: can't see what your taxes have to do with it, tho
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: I pay taxes that include waste recycling
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: they aren't recycled
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you pay to have your waste taken away
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: you are at odds with the facts
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it'll end up either in landfill or in a container bound for china
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: your are at odds with the facts
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you're mistaken
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: no you are
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: no, you are :-)
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: NO U
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: no, your mom!
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spodgy Tech: fight fight fight
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if you're from USA, then we -know- you're lying
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Spodgy sits down with some popcorn to watch the scrap
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: you attacked me personally for your lake of evidence , I win
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: lack
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i attacked you personally, did I?
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Lake of evidence... haha.
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: And Farkyss did NOT attack you personally.
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: did you not call me a liar without evidence of same?
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: quite personal
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: I win
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus pats Myopic on his head.
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: where's your local circuitboard reprocessing facility, then?
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Starling whines pathetically about everything.
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: I don't know, it's not relevant
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it is totally relevant and central
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: having your waste taken away is not the same thing as having your old pc recycled
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: locally
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods at Feral Farkyss.
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: The practical result is the same, you don't have to deal with it.
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: gotta admit, trying to install new ideas into people on here is sometimes like trying to have an intellectual debate with a cold slice of toast
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I live in the USA. I pay for the waste disposal, but if I need something extra taken away, it's a per charge thing. *shrug*
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: and what happens to it, charneus?
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: I pay to have it recycled, probably not locally. I don't pay to have it disposed of
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I just burn my trash.
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Or at least, I did when I was living way the hell out in the country.
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: ahh, so the common factor there is: neither of you know what happens to your waste
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: They recycle the eletronics as necessary. I don't know where it goes from my place, but I have to call them up and say 'Hey, I have a TV (or microwave, or computer) that needs to be taken care of.' and they handle it from there, and charge it to my bill.
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you'll probably find, charn, it'll be shipped abroad or dumped in landfill, it's what happens in europe
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: and I assume the the state and local laws are followed , even those relating to recycled materials
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods.
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Probably so, Farkyss.
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: USA have a loooong way to go to prove their green credentials
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: you assume we don't follow are own laws?
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus pats Myopic on his head.
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: that's not really the problem
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: america is heaviest consumer of resources per head of population... on the whole planet
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: and it's by some sizeable margin, too
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: And???
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: then you agree we have a solution that does not require a company to pay to do what we already pay for
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you don't already pay for it :-)
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: take it to debate
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: your logic and grasp of the facts escapes me
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: I wonder what the current size of the world's smallest HDD is?
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i'd like to see USA forced to sign up to whatever agreement the rest of the world come to as a replacement for Kyoto
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: and China?
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: china are going to anyway
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it's in their interests to
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: that would go great with a global draft that countries can't opt out of.
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: and USSr
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it's in USSR's interests to as well
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: USSR have nothing to fear, world largest reserves of natural gas and metal ore
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: The USSR dissolved in 1991
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you might think that, starling
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: point taken Starling
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: kremlin still pulls all the strings
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i guess an alternative to the computer-specific waste issue would be to force manufacturers to offer 10yr warranties
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: would force them to build pc's such that they actually last
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: which probably wouldn't be worth the bother given the pace of software launch.
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: would require a change in drive for the software market
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I wish my laptop were more upgradeable.
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: I have an IBM laptop that's 1o years old it works as well as the day it was made and it's about usless
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: bit odd, considering computers really don't do that much more than they did 10 years ago
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: is anyone looking forward to the 2tb memory sticks?
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: computers do a lot more, people don't
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: sweet, 2tb for $29.99
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: 10 years ago they hadn't invaded our home appliances.
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: actually, i think only gpu acceleration is something relatively new. the rest has been around for ages. it has just evolved
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: sometimes I think the science fictions of Terminator, Maximum Overdrive, and I, Robot will collide with reality in glorious tragedy.
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: yep, you surf, you listen to music, you mud, you do documents, photos, play gameas
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you still got a cpu, ram and i/o
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, and network
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: spose there could be a tax on pc's based on the power consumption
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: or devices in general :-)
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: let's mandate the 2tb thumb drive comes with a year supply of tofu, because if you have tha much memory you're not excersing and then we need a bureacracy to make sure you eat the tofu ... 
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: maybe a few forms
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Don't forget the strong-arm enforcement agency.
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: armed of course
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: why's that
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: because that meets my standards of what we all should do, Farkyss, don't you agree that it's best for all?
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krax Tech: -l 100
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: ok 2 questions: some idiot set the command prompt to full screen, how do I make it normal? and how would I find a network drive that isn't lettered from the command line ?
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: talking about the Windows command prompt?
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: minimize, right click on the taskbar, click properties, check it off full screen
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: sorry, yes
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: cool. I'll keep that in mind
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: err, can't right click the taskbar, admin locked out. on a college campus
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: can you right click on the command prompt "icon" on the task bar?
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: nope
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: don't worry about it, I'm no longer there. just wanted knowledge for future reference 
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: if you know the name of the pc, you can access it from windows explorer at the address \\<server name>
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: to yoru other question
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: does tf have any sort of documentation
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: yes, try /help
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: online format?
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: also the src comes with loads of html help files
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: ok
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: it's online somewhere, but not on the tf website, apparently
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: i found it
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: it'd be nice if there was a client that could pipe data to curses windows/splits
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: err, what?
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: also, pretty sure there is
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: where
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: cmud.
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: not sure what you are meaning by curses window or splits, though
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: ncurses is a way to get splitscreens in cli apps
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: so, essentially like vt102?
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: i don't know what that is
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: I'm not too up on it myself, but I think it's for describing cursor location.
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: I know you can create "windows" in it
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: vim and rtorrent are examples i'm thinking of
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: i dunno if vim uses ncurses, but rtorrent does
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: anyone use mcl?
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: ugh, i did for about 2 minutes in 2005
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: 2 minutes in 2005
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: how was it
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: it wouldn't be too hard to make a mud client in python with curses would it
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: mcl was horrid.  to  be honest, i get everything i need from tinyfugue
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, it'd be stupid and take forever, but it wouldn't be hard ;-)
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: tf and tt++ both should be able to suppport ncurses splitting so i don't have to pop up multiple xterms >.<
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: why is it stupid and why would it take forever
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: python has robust libs for telnet and curses
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's stupid and would take forever because MUD clients have been honed for, literally, decades
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you think you'll get reasonable functionality in 2 days of scripting?
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: my spouse wrote a mud client in java, took him about 2 days.  but he's an oxford compsci graduate, so...
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: for the base, it just needs a way to output telnet information, and then take input....people use telnet just fine
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: and... it sucked
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: passable client vs functional client, ani...big difference
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: he should have wrote it in python, would have taken him 1 day and still suck
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's not a MUD client, ramier, that's a telnet client
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: i'm on telnet right now bc my windows crashed permanently
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: what do i need beyond this telnet client so it becomes a mud client
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: is there a maximum of commands you can queue up? i've got a script which takes each item out of my bag, invdetails it and puts it back and it's making my client crash when i do it on my main aardbag
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: what font is default inside mush?
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: times new roman?
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: it's definitely monospace font...
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: and times new roman isn't monospace
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Console and Lucida Console tend to be the baseline for monospace fonts, or Consolas if you have Vista or newer.
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: And courier, maybe?
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: mine says fixedsys 9 pt
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: i don't think i changed it
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: ok
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: test
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasyrn Tech: fail
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: test2
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: test3
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Stop testing it out on public channels. Use gtell or echo. :P
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Use ftalk, too. I know you don't have friends to annoy there.
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Someone in the crowd yells, "BURN!" Drtoki seems to agree!
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: whats the best way to track item affects on/off in a script? Seems to be nothing from the MUD to say item has put this affect on.
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: spell tags
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: spell tags don't do item affects (that I can see)
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: they are aflags
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: ahh! you're probably better off hard-coding that for now I guess
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: hard coding?
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: you mean use script to wear rem item and set the script when I do it?
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: well, I don't know why you really need to track aflags unless you have a spellup script that keeps spamming true sight when you are wearing the aard helm. Soo.. in that case trigger off inventory tags to set certain flags/checks when you wear items that give you certain affects
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: or better yet, fix your spellup script
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: easier.
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: I am making an inv pluign using invmon etc. If I have an invis item I can see with helm on, when I remove the helm there is no way to trigger removing invis items from the list
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: perhaps there should be an affoff when you lose an affect from removing eq...
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blainer Tech: yeah it would seem logical
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: Anyone here use Fiendishs' Channel Capture script for zmud?
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Nobody get on facebook, i mean at all. If you are logged in, log out NOW.
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: But how will I live without telling everyone everything that I am doing?
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: twitter > facebook
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Well, unless you /want/ to contract Antiivirus 2009, and many other associated viri, then log out.
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: facebook is reporting viral?
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: "social networking" lets you pick up "social diseases"
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Facebook has been hacked, and is sending viruses out all over the place. It litterally block all anti malware programs, and it sends messages to your friends telling them to view videos, that hand out the virus.
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasyrn Tech: is it H1N1001001001
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: that stuff has been going around on FB for months.
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Blame Farmville!
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: It won't even let you run them from a flash drive, blocks almost all interneet sites, and then, to boot, it tries to get you to add MORE viruses by "click here to remove reported virus"
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: This Facebook thing sounds almost as dangerous as this "Internet" thing I keep hearing about.
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: the internet gave you aard
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Blame Canada.
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Giving me Aard is dangerous...  look at my grades in college for proof.
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Class-action lawsuit time!
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Sue for higher grades?
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: twitter must be hacking facebook for the dominant friend network
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Hannah Montana did it.
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: if you want friends you have to go through twitter!
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Wait, I just twittered all my twits to logoff facebook. I have played into their evil hands...
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: could be worse, Zynga introduced a bug into mafia wars 2 weeks ago that anyone could play as any other player just by changing the facebook userid in the browser, people were losing equipment all over the place and had no clue why.
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: Imagine being able to put into zmud your player name is 'Lasher' and suddenly the mud thinks you are, basically same thing, Zynga suck.
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Where's my pamphlet??
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It would rock if I did that.
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: oh u mean those open beta game websites with unsecure user/acc names yeah happened a lot
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: There'd be more executions than happened during the Bolshevik revolution.
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Yeah, I can just see Starling now... 'Hmm... ipban Mxitard, nuke so and so, nuke this person, etc.'
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: u know whats funny they still use forum name = user id for games so stupid lol let everyone know your acc name
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: yeah, i always mix things up when signing up for webforums and stuff and my user accounts on the games they're for
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: password 773n0km$$vxZ3--bo0
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: wouldnt be much point really, it's be noticed right away and we'd just restore to the previous nights backup.
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzx Tech: played several games where their database had problems and u can type any pw to log onto anyones id
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I'm kidding, anyway.  I'd be a kind and benevolent god, as long as people worshipped me.  Failure to comply would result in other than kindness.
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: then i use simple passwords for email addresses i use to sign up to untrusted sites, and never give them that simple password
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: openbsd can handle 256 char passwords just fine
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: why share anything remotely important with a con artist?
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: that should be amended to "why share anything remotely important at all?"  The rule of thumb is that if he or she will call the cops if they discover you naked in bed with them they aren't worthy to know the important details.
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: exactly
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: alot of people're told they're safe here and there, like with online banking
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: yet there's all kinds of ways they're not safe at all
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: NOTHING is safe online. Ever.
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: if i want to buy something online through a credit card, i get a prepaid one
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Thats a bit over the top. But whatever works for you.
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: lol not even
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yeah, even =p
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: you ever go to one of those forums with backdoors into porn sites?
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: all stolen credit cards i think
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Why would I give a credit card number for porn.... sillyness.
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: why did the person who's account the backdoor goes through?
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Likely, because they wanted some porn.
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: and you assume the porn admin doesn't check for 25000 password attempts on one account every 10 minutes?
T1/r7/2009-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No, I assume I don't use a credit card number on porn sites =p
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: hi can i get some help
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: i was busy creating a new char and i was at the sub class part then my internet disconnected and now when i try to go online with that char it says its already on so what now
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir sighs.
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm actually using zmud to extract data from csv exported from an excel sheet...
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: for a cinema
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and the xml shit has to be formated in a specific way
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: mis
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: So, I'm using zmud 7.21.  I've got a trigger that I made, but now i want to set it to a certain class, anyone know where to do this?
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: ok, here's a nice tricky one for you: Anyone know of such a thing as a partial keygen for Vista?
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: for recreating keys that are partially illegible
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: keygens generally fall under the category of warez, which we don't discuss on Aardwolf channels.
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: ok, perhaps a key verifier then
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: ...that could perhaps give you several valid keys so that you might compare YOUR key... ;)
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon snickers with Obyron about their shared secret.
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon . o O ( still no )
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: that's the issue, partially readable, but too many missing or spurious characters that aren't legible
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasyrn Tech: call microsoft
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: microsoft have pulled up their S.E.P
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: trouble is, Samsung, the manufacturer, have pulled up their S.E.P field too
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: which means one of them is breaking the law
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Call 'em up and ask 'em which it is.
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: they won't
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: samsung will only sell you a replacement recovery disk, and microsoft will only sell your a new copy of vista
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Switch to Linux :)
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Flamebait much? :P
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasyrn Tech: well, windows 7 now - they won't sell you vista i'm willing to bet
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: at which point, i feel legally entitled to use whatever keygen or checker is needed to replace or recover this license
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Fine, Farkyss, but Aardwolf isn't the place to find it. You've already been warned.
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: stick it to the man
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I'm not sure the law necessarily agrees with you about that, but I respect your tenacity.
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasyrn Tech: i don't think that would stand up in court, either
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasyrn Tech: rights go to the publisher, not the user
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it's probably microsoft's fault because the stickers they've been using since 2006 or so have not been sufficiently hard wearing to be used on the bottom of laptops
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: maybe there should be a new channel for piracy
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: the old one were laminated
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Yeah, the ones on laptops are the worst.
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: No, Ramier, there shouldn't.
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: No there shouldn't.
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ramier blinks innocently.
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: anyway, this has got sfa to do with piracy, it's to do with installing an OS this person is legally entitled to
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: what i might do is bring in my ubercamera and see if i can take a closeup pic and use some clever filters to enhance the image
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Happydog Madcatz Tech: Anyone know what version of MUSH the custom-Aard one is?
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: how would an ubercamera get a picture better than a magnifying glass
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasyrn Tech: 4.33?
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: don't have either with me
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: can zoom in far more with a image file than with a magnifying glass
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Happydog Madcatz Tech: That sounds right, Vasyrn.  Thanks.
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasyrn Tech: my pleasure
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: and in anycase, it's not tenacity, it's neccessity.
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: those butt-rapers at STEAM haven't got back to me yet, either
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: another good platform gone to the dogs, is steam
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if there were network issues, you used to be able to start it in offline mode and still access your games. That 'feature' has now been removed
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: RAAAAGEEEEEEE
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: which basically boils down to the fact that rather than 'buying' games on steam, you're merely 'renting access' to them
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: blah. any editor that can replace matched strings with line breaks? using crimson editor right now, but can't figure out how
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: vim or notpod+
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: notepad++
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: that'll have to be tomorrow's Anne Robinson consumer crusade
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ok, installed notepad++. functionality is the same as crimson editors. so what do i use for line breaks then?
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: use \n\r or \r\n or \n or \r
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you know when old people go on about how much better it was in 'the olden days'?
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: well, they were right
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: that's how we know you're getting old
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nope, it's how you know that everything these days sucks
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: analog music was better than digital in the now days
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: CDs are far better than tapes ever were
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: and far less hassle than vinyl, but then, CDs are 1984, which is pretty much the peak of existence afaic
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it's been pretty much downhill since then
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: high quality analog tapes totally *pulverize* digital CDs
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: there's no such thing as high quality cassettes
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: You're making one crucial mistake here Farkyss
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: arguing with xyliz?
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I'm not sure I agree -- for one thing, every time I stick a casette into the CD drive of my computer, it just breaks
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: ;nod farkyss
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Yes, exactly that
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: cassettes were designed to be compact and not subject to damage from movement
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: CDs are far far worse than decent quality analog tapes were (and are)
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nothing to do with quality - vinyl records were capable of higher fidelity than tapes
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: that's not true, cd's are capable of a wider frequency response and a more faithful reproduction
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: as well as not deteriorating with age
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: CDs throw out so much detail that CDs are horrendously bad crap compared to decent analog tapes
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: any loss of info due to digitisation is greatly outweighed by the improvement in frequency response and longetivity
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: everything -else- back then was better though
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: that's not true -- they do sound different though, so it's not unreasonable that you might prefer it
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: 8 track tapes rule
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: for me, I am more interested in the quality of the music than the quality of the sound
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: any so called improvement due to in frequency response and longevity is negated by the loss of info due to digitisation
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: well, there is a loss of information in analog recording and, more so, in reproduction also
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: computers were better then, too
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karranir Tech: naw, just simpler...
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: simpler is better :-)
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karranir Tech: But when you play text games... yeah.
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i still buy vinyl :P
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: decent analog provides all the music -- repeated listening permits the human mind to extract and reconstruct the fine detail -- but with digital music, the fine detail is irrevocably gone
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: there's no detail fine enough for human ears to miss it on a cd
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: so the differences are all in your mind, you are saying? 
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Is it?  Only if a lossy compression algorithm is used.
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Farkyss, Xyliz goes through this same argument every time CDs are brought up. He knows this, yet he continues to act like he's dense enough to not understand.
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Everything is in your mind ;)  Nothing exists outside of it.
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arismis Tech: totally not true
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I know many philosophers who would argue otherwise
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: might be self deceit, but i think vinyl sounds warmer and more natural. even if it doesn't it still works for me
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: a lot of that is down to the equipment, dagnir
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Even Solipsists don't really believe that
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: tend to agree Dagnir, but not enough to make it worth effort
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: my minidisc player sounds clearer than my cdrom
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Farkyss, that is a blatant lie, since there is plenty of examples of fine detail able to be readily discerned from analog versions that are missing and mangled from digital versions
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also, decent releases have different cd and vinyl masters
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: that would be from re-edits, not from the single transfer from analog to digital
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: That's another of Xyliz' techniques - use words that give the impression of an entire dictionary being pulped to give them meaning so you feel that you have to believe what is being said
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if her were taken to a recording studio and played 10 versions of the same song, one of which was recorded onto analog media, the rest onto digital, he wouldn't tell them apart
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Learn From Einstein Tech: anyone with moonscript? how many ticks to 3m?
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: i'm planning to get a netbook, which do you think's better out of acer aspire ones and asus eee pcs?
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: I like the samsung actually
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: but I have a Lenovo S10
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: wasnt impressed by Asus or acer
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: to be honest :)
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: what's the deal with the internet?
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: Well it's this imaginary space that's created by computers linked together in a network ...
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: ok ok...
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: like with usb cables and stuff?
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: in all sorts of ways - and the answer to the 'why is it sometimes slow' question will be: because there are people on it
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: like...a lot of people?
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: 4 or even 7 on a busy day
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: that's so many people! can I just call them up on my rotary telephone and ask them to get off so I can go faster?
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: and what's the deal with flaming walls? how do I make that work?
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Well, currently, those types of relationships, while not outlawed in the United States, are frowned upon. But! you can get them some KY and call it a night. :)
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: (Frowned upon by the government, since they won't allow marriage!)
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: is that where my 3.5" floppy comes into play?
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: ohhh
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: and what about all these zip disks? I am awash in Iomega zip disks
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: That's for afterwards. You always gotta zip up.
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: now it makes sense
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: my grandson's always talking about the mytube and the google? is that what kids are doing today
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: I believe you're thinking of Bookface.
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Yep. It's new slang, like 'Man, I'm gonna go google her!' or 'Watch her mytube! She's got skillz!'
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: yea, he's always on the warcraft and the facespace
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Uh oh. You want to steer him away from those places! They allow social skills!
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: I'm paying too much for my internet, can I pay less if I'm just going to use a part of it? Like...not the whole internet, just some of it?
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: you should switch to AOL and get 1800 hours free
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: allow them, charn, but definitely don't require them. ;)
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Sure! Just got to internet.com and download what part of the internet you want!
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: you're so helpful
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus smiles happily.
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: you can also reduce the number of tubes you usel
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: lord, I sent that?
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tyebald sighs.
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slants Tech: where can I get a decent 3 moons plugin for mushclient
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: I think at Gannon' s site
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: it's called 3moons
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slants Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: anyone used cross over in kubuntu?
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Real Heafmo Tech: Can anyone recommend a good Java app I can use on my phone to play Aard?
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: remote desktop
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I only found a handheld client for ipaq pocketpc..
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: fortunately for me.. :P
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: why would you want to
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heafmo, try midpssh
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Real Heafmo Tech: Ramier, you should know I still don't have keepall. If I got an App on my phone to play I'd remort straight away and Qsit
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Real Heafmo Tech: Thanks Abe
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: im going to make my awesome python client over thanksgiving break
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: i have it all planned out
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then use a free shell account to run tinyfugue or tintin
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You pat Ramier on his head.
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ramier growls at you.  Hey, two can play it that way! 
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: and then you won't need to have dumb scripts popping up 20 different xterms
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure you will...you just won't think you do ;-)
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: not if you make a window large enough with adjustable split screens
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skull Tech: ive got some wireless issuses with my Dell XPS - I have my HOME PC set up to run a Linksys wireless router and I am connected to it with my Laptop (DELL XPS) but I keep getting a PROBLEM with connection ICON , yet I am still connected ?
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eserokele Tech: how can i find out if a mod is good or evil?
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eserokele Tech: i mean mob
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Why are you asking on tech? :P
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Detect good/evil, true seeing, aardhelm.
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eserokele Tech: because the newb channel told me to. lol.
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: For tech questions, not questions like this...
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zonaiko Tech: How do I make an alias with the Aardwolf client that will allow for variables after the alias name?
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: use a * for variable input.
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbtopic_id=120  <-- The "Getting Started" section of the MUSHclient forums.  There are wonderful tutorials there on how to make an alias (includes video)
T1/r7/2009-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zonaiko Tech: Okay.  Thanks.  :)
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: some of the prior microsoft "upgrades" defrauded the customer since the "upgraded system" was more buggy (with some components missing) than the standalone
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: depends whether the upgrade uses a new codekey or the old codekey or both codekeys
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: be not-funny "hilarious" if all the codekeys from all the prior upgrades were required
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus mutters 'Stupid 59% frangmentation of the hard drive...'
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus peers at his computer intently.
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: 73% done defrag, down to 44% fragmentation..
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: need some help
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: does anyone have (to hand) an original Windows Vista Home Premium 32bit DVD?
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir . o O ( torrent... )
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i don't want it
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i want to know the part number off the CD
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it's the same for all oem copies, and starts X
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Farkyss: Does this provide the answer you need? http://www.ewiz.com/query.php?categry=673
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Oh, wait, probably not. *ponder*
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Actually, seems like it might be, but a better list is here: http://blog.mpecsinc.ca/2008/04/windows-vista-sp1-oem-part-numbers.html
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: good try, charn, but doesn't tie in with anything we have this end, must either be a different type of part number or somesuch else
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods.
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Try X10-63162?
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Home Premium. Damn it.
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i can't really 'try' any, it has to be right, else microsoft will get suss :-)
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it's hp i want, charn
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: what's the x10 from?
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Let me go back and check. It was for Vista Ultimate, though, not HOme.
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you in the EU, charn, or US?
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: US.
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Was looking for EU, though.
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: cool
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: kudos for realising that's important
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus chuckles politely.
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Ugh. 93% done defragging, and still is 35% fragmented.
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: dunno why Steam offer support via email when they don't bother answering or acknowledging them
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Ugh. finished defrag. Down to 25% fragmentation.
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GrimReefer Tech: I have a timer that is set to off upon first install of the plugin after subsequent install of the same plugin the time was switch on,  how to i ensure that the time is set to off when installing a plugin ?
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Latronis Tech: open up the timer sectionof you world config and shut them off.
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Latronis Tech: that little clock icon on you world tollbar should do the trick of getting you to the  correct page of you world config.
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GrimReefer Tech: Is there a command in side the plugin i can  use ? i dont want all my timers off by default
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GrimReefer Tech: When i load this plugin i want the timer in the plugin set off
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Latronis Tech: i don't see anything in the help. Onlything I can advise is to disable taht particular plugin untill you want it.
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Does anyone have a trigger to make links clickable?
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: i do
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: at home :(
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Remember how you did it?
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Obyron is asking for someone else, and doesn't really have time to go digging through the docs or he'd just figure it out himself.
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: well you can do it very simple like or more complex.  Im sure someone else has one its pretty common.  I dont remember the exact syntax its been a year since I looked at Aard much less a trigger
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I'm using CMud, so it's automagical. :P
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: its still a trigger, its just in your inherited settings.  Find it and give it to him.
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Ah, I'll check.
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Latronis Tech: its an MXP tag trigger on www and capture teh value in a variable. then tag it with a #sub and <a href> ddy </href> or something like that. pull up the help in MXP
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Latronis Tech: or you can jsut download the plugin for it from www.muchclient.com
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Latronis Tech: oh, is you friend using cmud as well?
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: no, because friends don't let friends use cmud
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I'm using CMud, they're using ZMud.
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I copied the CMud setting and gave them that, but it's not working for them, and they're too doped up on pain meds to play with it, so it'll wait. ;)
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Latronis Tech: give me have a sec. i will go dig it out of my old zmud.
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Not that big a deal. No worries. :)
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: This trigger? #REGEX {\b(((https?|ftp|telnet)://[\w\d:#/;$()~_?\+\-=&]+|www|ftp)(\.[\w\d:#/;$()~_?\+\-=&]+)+)\b} {#SUB {<A '%1'>%1</A>}
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus sits down and thinks deeply. 
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: From Cmud? Yeah, that looks like the one.
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Should work for zMUD, too.
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I'll check with them again.
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Really, the trigger pattern itself should work with any client, it's just the value itself that needs to be changed.
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Latronis Tech: yeah that should work and then sub with something like #MXP <a "http://www.zuggsoft.com/">ddress</a>
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Latronis Tech: yeah that should work and then sub with something like #MXP <a "http://www.zuggsoft.com/">"ddress"</a>
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Latronis Tech: dang, cant seem to get the at symblo to come through
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use @@ to show @
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: do the at symbol twice as the mud eats the first one
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: The MUD doesn't eat the first one.
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: does too
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: It interprets a single @ symbol as the start of the color code.
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it interprets it as a color code
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: That's not eating it.
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: which is eating it
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: wait for it. a patented charneus distinction
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: nom nom nom
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Latronis Tech: #MXP This is a <a "@address"></a>
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus giggles at Semper Flat's actions.
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: A Better Way (TM) would be if it looked at the @ and left it alone if the next character isn't a valid color code.
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cain killd Abelinc points to the ideas board
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Then it'd only eat it (yes, eat it) 6/13 or so times.
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Yes, but what if you wanted to do @cyan? :P
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: at least we don't need to do @~ anymore
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Latronis Tech: As I am a complete noob with mushclient. Is there a way to way the layout of this world windows that aardwolf is using?
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you type "initaard", it'll return to a stock setup
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: I'd like a color code that set it back to default so if someone has a channel colorset to something other than default it won't look dumb when I do stuff like this...
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://www.adverserealms.com/emerald/allsws.html has speedwalks and maps for nearly all areas :)
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Latronis Tech: hmm the reason I ask is that after I close the client and reopen it the windows are all over the place. Not where I left them. Not even close.
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's why that macro is pretty much all green :P
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: TinyMUSH, PennMUSH, RhostMUSH, and TinyMUX have that.
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Latronis Tech: Nice link Abelinc.
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: latronis, save the world
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Latronis Tech: hmm all five of them then?
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Latronis Tech: okay all five saved. going to go test it now.
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Latronis Tech: yep that worked! You rock! Thanks
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Latronis Tech: is there a way to tell mushclient where to open the notepad? it keeps opening half way off the bottom of  my screen.
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: i would think it just opens in the spot notepad normally opens...
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: if you move it, close and reopen it doesn't remember the new spot?
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Latronis Tech: well it opens consistently off with half of it off the bottom of the client screen. Let me check. so far it has always popped with a helpfile.
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Google it?
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Or perhaps try posting a note to tech board.  I usually have good luck with that.
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Latronis Tech: negitive, even after repostioning and resizing the shutting down it does it's own thing when I open a new one.
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the aardwolf_help plugin specifies the position for that notepad window
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so normal notepad movement wouldn't impact the helps when you read one
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Latronis Tech: then I need to go in and find the coordinates and adjust them. got it. Thanks Abelinc.
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you check out the aardwolf help xml file, you'll see a line -- notepad position
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can either play with those, or maybe comment out the line & see what it does, whether it'll then use whatever position you closed last, not sure
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Depends on if you want to capture them all in one window or all separately.
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Mis.
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Latronis Tech: GOTIT! Thank you both so much! It opening up everytime out on my extended screen now!
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Latronis Tech: now if I could jsut figure out how to make the regulare nopad open nicely.
T1/r7/2009-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bocephus Tech: How can I have helps show in a window within the aardwolf client?
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: anyone alive?
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: naw, we've uploaded to the aard server.  When we want to "log off", we download the latest copy of ourselves to a waiting robot body.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: who is a programmer
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: A programmer is someone who writes computer code.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: obviously
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: im asking who here is 1
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: it might be better to ask a more specific question
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: lol i didnt realise the question could be taken up 2 ways my bad
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: so who here has the proffesion of being a programmer
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: is that better urwin and where is my tp
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: are you looking for career-choice insights, or are you hiring?
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: I don't do it professionally, but i do have some knowledge. What they are tell you to do, though, is to ask what /exactly/ you want to know.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I'm not 1, I'm 25. I don't think 1 year olds could type.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: career choice urwin
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: what are normally the subjects that who study at university to become a programmer
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Math. Computer Science.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: latin used to be the best choice
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: im supposing computer psience is IT right
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: coz you sound like you talking about CAT
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: IT usually refers to things like help desk and support, component replacement and the like.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Tech comp sci, trig, algebra, system administration, it depends on /what/ you want to do with it.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: tech computer science is software development.   IT is generally just an A+ certification or some such.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Ignore the "tech". Typed channel name twice on accident.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: im talking about what subjects you need to take at school to help you get into a university to study to become one
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: It depends mostly on the individual university.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: math is big, although your field is going to determine what you'll use commonly.  Programming in a scientific field is going to involve a lot more complex math than programming for a game company.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Theres also some places that offer sort of a catch all computer science degree which covers lightly web development, helpdesk, programming, network.. but not as in depth as any of the more specific programs.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: but if you really want to be good at programming, you'll need to do it about 20 hours a day
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: You will be better off if you have some knowledge of Visual Basic, C, C++, and/pr Java
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: from what i can figure best is obviously gonne be to take IT both my sciences and math 
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: and/or*
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: they gonna teach us jave next year
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: java *
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: why wait?  could learn it now :P
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: how
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: should teach assembly and c first
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: im in grade fyi
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: 9*
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: I highly suggest you get some study in english/composition to engender a high rate of successful spelling and syntax adherance.  A programmer with bad spelling ability and bad grammar (syntax) is going to run into all sorts of problems with typos and stuff.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: with that view, blaizer, are you sure programming is for you?
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: anyone know if you hook a hub/switch in line after a router if it needs a special cable?
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: I taught myself from online tutorials, if you can comprehend what you read its fairly easy to learn several languages. I used solely online resources to learn Ruby, Perl, Python, C++, and some Visual Basic.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: urwin let me make something clear just coz i type like this doesnt mean i type like this in everything
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: like crossover or anything?
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: i used to mess about with 6502 assembly when i was a teen... didn't need classes or anything.  and that was before there were online forums to get help... these days it's a doddle
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: or is a straight ethernet cable good?
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: some calculators have assembly language for it, fun to play with
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: trust me i have excellent grammar and punctuation just see no poiton in using it on this game
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(VoDkA) Cirrus Tech: anyone how to mud from iphone?
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Let me make /this/ clear. Typing lk this wll get u no rspct or gt othrs to lstn to u.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ruiner: A straight through cable would be okay, But a lot of hubs are autoswitching for the uplink port - some of them have a crossover switch, so either should suffice.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: In a TEXT based game, where others have to read what you say to inderstand, WHY, for any reason, would you type like a dislexic two year old?
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: people who type like you have the annoying habit of letting the wrong kind of typing creep into important forms of typing.  You don't have to use big words and you for darn sure don't need to be perfect, but your boss is going to delete your files and make you start over if you bring him crap full of typoes, weird ways of doing things, and stuff that gives off the perception that you don't know what you are doing on the abstract level.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: he's not at all going to care if your code actually works or not, either
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: ergo, it about habits.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: "We are what we frequently do."
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: urwin im in grade 9 i dont have a boss and do you actually think when i need to write an essay or something like that i actually type like this and yes it is a habit when its possible otherwise i type properly
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: anyway can i get those website addresses please
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Website addresses?
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: yes 
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Sure, the first webpage is www.learntotype.com, the second is www.askstupidquestions.net
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: Chicomecoatl Tech: I taught myself from online tutorials,
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You've got to be a bit more specific, Blaizer. Or use Google
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: oh thanks chic
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: also, the better job opportunities are trending towards your private life affecting your professional life.  For example, going out and dancing provocatively on the bar (and then posting the video to your myspace page) can be grounds for your dismissal.  That you did this unwise thing way back in your high school/college years isn't going to matter.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: chic u not serious are you
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: yeah, that's why you don't work with idiots if you have a short temper
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: no come one people this is cruel and inhumane
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: so, figuratively speaking, your boss could even decide not to hire you moreorless on the basis of your aardwolf presence as Blaizer.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: This is why you never mention it to prospective employers.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: i have a neighbour who got told by her boss not to cut peoples hair on her own time, but she's a hairdresser
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: how the hell is he gonna now about something i did in grade 9 this is not america dude they dont check your internet history
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Also why you never post anything about yourself online.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: i'd rather live off pig entrails than work for pork from pork
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: you seriously think they'll just hire you based on a small bundle of papers and a couple interviews?
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: anyway does anyone know of website that teach how to write programes and stuff like that
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: check out sp00fed.com
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: teaches *
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: try working through the euler problems, or picking some little programs to write - tic tac toe, or the like
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: particularly when there's regular government work, they are going to run background checks on you for all kinds of things.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: yeah, like for a job in the fbi if you got a dui when you're 18, you can't get in it
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: not getting caught is key to a government job
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programming_languages go nuts.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: anipopo how the hell am i suppose to write a tic tac toe program if i dont know how to write yet
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: w3schools.com is a nice site
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Blaizer... You don't really have a specific question here.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: which one should i learn
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: er... i managed to write one in 9th grade in basic
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: urwin cuase there is alot
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: do not bother wasting effort on tic tac toe program -- the game is rigged
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: brainf*
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: these days, with oo languages, it's a cinch
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I bet he wants to program something even worse than Mxit.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: anipop i have no idea we only start learning in grade 10
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: if you view learning as something you only get from school, you'll get whipped by your peers who program for 20 hours a day
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: programming 20 hours a day leads to burnout fast
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: but there are people who do it because they love it
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: i plan to practice and learn all the time but for now i just want some basic knowledge
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Google.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: especially if the language used sucks
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: java for the basic platform.  Basic/C/Delphi variants are also very good, because the older stuff lasts forever.  Don't get into COBOL or FOXanything unless you have a bunch of time to waste learning dead languages or a prospective employer still depends on such languages for their equipment.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Or, books.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: just learn the basics of programming, logic and stuff. languages are easy after that
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: thanks urwin that website is quite usefull
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: but i think java is a good starter language, if you want to get your hands on something
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Hell, i started by getting a decent MUD client and coding it for scripts, that taught me enough about coding to get my feet on the ground.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: never heard of FOXanything
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Personally i found C++ as a good starter with perl as a seconf.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: second*
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: "Combining and averaging information from various internet sites, langpop.com claims that [46] in 2008 the 10 most cited programming languages are (in alphabetical order): C, C++, C#, Java, JavaScript, Perl, PHP, Python, Ruby, and SQL."
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: FOXPRO or FOXTROT or something.  It's about as old as COBOL is.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: if i were starting today, i'd start with python
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Python was pretty easy after learning C++. I like to start harder, so that the others flow easier.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Its also nice working on a linux system where scripts flow easier into the shell.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: for total-newb-get-my-foot-in-the-programming-door, VB will probably be the easiest, since the entire BASIC family is predicated on teaching non-programmers how to program.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: c++ is very arcane though... quite punishing for the early programmer who might just want to get something working
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Python I could see throwing a wrench in later languages, just becuase you don't concern yourself with parentheses so much
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: and you can run python in interpreter mode, which helps you see why something isn't working properly
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: C++, C#,
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: you will also want to stay away from C (C++ without the safety nets added).  C has zero newb protection, so doing something wrong could actually harm your computer hardware.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: C, C++ C# Java, JavaScript, Perl, PHP, Python, Ruby, and SQL.... you can pretty much discount JavaScript,PHP, Ruby and SQL, They're mostly used for web development from my understanding.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: pretty unlikely you'd mess up your computer with c
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: so urwin what of whats there do u suggest i should try
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: should i learn java script
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: umm, no, C (the precursor to C++/C#) is practically guaranteed to break something if you don't know what you are doing.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Do you want to design web pages? Or write applications
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: If you want to design webpages i suggest a combo of PHP, HTML, and Java.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: write applications
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: i actually want to do both
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Applications will work with almost any language, depending on what you want to do and how you want to go about it.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: applications, probably best to start with C++ or Python.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: C++ tends to be the introductory programming course you'd take in school.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Here pick up some C++, and then make it output the lyrics to 99 bottles (first thing after hello world that i did), leads to a pretty deep understanding of the language.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: get a copy of knoppix with gcc installed and practice writing c programs
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: what
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: once you know how c and assembly work the rest is easy
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Blaizer... to give you an idea of how broada question you're asking.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_programming_languages_by_category
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: The only thing i don't like about c,c++,and C# is how you have to include everything. I.E. #include <iostream>
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: other programming languages are too abstract to make sense to most people
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: until you know what makes them work
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: Java incorporates almost everything that C makes you abide by.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: perl is fairly abstract but it has a simple array,scalar system for beginners.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Such as @colors = ("red
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: i cant find c and all the other c's what is the website adress if you know of one where i can find it
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Such as @colors = ("red", "blue", "green")*
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: it's the most versatile, in terms of the type of applications you can churn out, but it's also the most strict.  More of that "good habits" thing I was talking about earlier.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: look for the book K&R C programming language
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: if you read through that start to finish and figure out the exercises stuff's easier
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: and if you have an x86 32 bit processor, check out programming from the ground up
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Perl is more forgiving for the beginner, as its syntax is very versatile, but it can also help teach bad habits.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: it's a free ebook released under gpl liscence
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: i don't think i'd advise starting with c
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Hell, just download an online PDF for a C++ tutorial.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: if he's going to take it in high school or college, it's alright.  Very dated, however.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: best C book in the world
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: written by the author oc C
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: C forces you to understand exactly how a thing works, because it doesn't have error checking.  This means that you can overwrite your OS with stuff your computer doesn't even understand, and the only way to figure out what went wrong is to study the code you wrote.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: C++ fixes that by including limited errorchecking.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: yeah that's all fearmongering, using other programming languages you don't know what kind of error checking they have unless you know c to see how they're interpreted
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: if you can overwrite your os, you must have a very stupid os or an even stupider configuration
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: no im gonna sound like an idiot but where do you write the programs with adn with what
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: you can break your computer with visual basic
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: i can't break my os with any c program i write, because it simply doesn't have the access rights to do that
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: heh, that's almost as broad a question as "how do I learn to program?"
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: that C book i mentioned compiled fine on my computer and didn't break a thing
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: vim.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: if you like why 1+1 = 2 and don't wonder about fractions that make it work then you can start with whatever you like
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: i tried C++, python, smalltalk and none of the books i had answered why they worked
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: now i can learn any of them easily
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Latronis Tech: what I am trying to figure out right now is if I should delve into assembly code or continue from c onto C++.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: the applications to write programs vary.  Older languages might just have a compiler, which turns a plain text file to a binary executable.  More modern ones use an Integrated Development Environment (IDE), which in simple terms is like using a MUD client like ZMud or MUSH.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: so to make my question as simple as possible what do i go to to start writing a program
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: there are also several "flavors" of languages, and not all of them are 1)popular or 2)implement the same set of language-syntax features.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: ok in jave then
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: java
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: if i want to write in java is there a specific program i must use 
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Latronis Tech: go to www.bloodshed.net and download DEV-C++ and whatever other language floats you boat.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: for java you'd do good with eclipse
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: no.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: hmm, not sure.  I got out of java work after borland went down the tubes (that's another thing, companies offering IDEs will sometimes go out of business or screw up their product).
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: I like notepad++, it has a nice language coloration and such
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: vim > notepad++
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Latronis Tech: Drtoki is oldschool enh?
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: microsoft has a free c/c++ compiler now if on windows
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: I do use Dev-C++ to compile my C/C++ though
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: im confused i dont have these on my pc i need to download them thats why im asking for the website 
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: vim is never out of style! :P
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: have to agree to liscence terms though, for personal use
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: vim is awesome, i love it
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Google it, not all of life comes on a silver platter.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: Blaizer: LEARN TO GOOGLE!
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Or see the link in my desc.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Not the one at teh end.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: 8high drtoki
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chicomecoatl misses the shift key for the ten billionth time, then breaks his keyboard over his knee.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: www.lmgtfy.com ;-)
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: i am googling
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Latronis Tech: and if you can't figure out google you don't want to learn programming.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Thats a pretty accurate assesment
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Drtoki is agreeing with that Latronis person again...
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: ok i founf a java script program
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: you may want to explore proper programming forums, but it's very likely that whatever you learn on in a class or from a book will be something from a major company--Microsoft, Sun or whomever they happen to be now, or Borland.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Latronis Tech: tech power in action
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: if you can help it, learning via a compiler and a plain text editor is generally not the best thing to try right off the bat.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Better than scripting it from the terminal.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: get a syntax-highlighting editor, but do start from the compiler, it will help a lot with thinking about the hierarchy of your program's components
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Latronis Tech: Hey Doc, you ever get into assembly? 
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: text editor + compiler can lead to deeper understanding though.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: damn unix book i had used awk to test unix standards in current operating system, i had to read half a 300 page book to figure out how awk worked
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Also show where you muffed up, in that you can't compile something sytactically incorrect.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: but it is a handy language and standard tool on them
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: so it wasn't a waste of time
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Awk? Fsck that.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: yeah, if you can find this one book written in like 1994 on gawk, best one out there
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: i only found it on one website though, kinda disappeared
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: real programmers do all their programming in pseudocode anyway
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trashbat! Anipopo stares at the sky.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: ey this is cool
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: no, real programmers do everyone else's programming in pseudocode.  This is why commenting is supremely important. ;)
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: I used to never comment, then when i would review my code i was like "wtf was i trying to do here?!". SO now i comment everything.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: some code's easy to read, but some's pretty messy
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: i guess commentinng's best when you have like 300 variables
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: One code i saw for c++, didn't indent or anything, the entire code was one line, that was a SOB to decypher.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: commenting is best always!
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: or you went to all the effort to do it one way, then later you forget why it was done that way.  Doesn't even matter if you spent an entire month trying figure out the one last bug that was preventing it from working.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: one some sites they have obfuscated c contests
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: should see some of the stuff they think up
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: heh, wait until after you've learned how to do a few things first.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: but, seriously, you must comment everything
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: because in the real world you're often not the sole author of a piece of code
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Nod, and your project companions need to know what you did, and why
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: if they don't know why your function does things a certain way, they'll just delete the whole thing
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: yeah like debian
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: with that memory leak they thought they found in that ssl from openbsd
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: that sure caused alot of panic when the exploits started coming out
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: valgrind was the culprit
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: that's why i like openbsd more than the other's, programmers are experts, and everything is well documented - security holes are fixed before they're found
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: they're always patching things nobody even thought of in the cracking world
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: fixed before they're found? ... uh =p
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: yep
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: how would they fix them if they hadn't found them
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: openbsd developers found them
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: So they were found.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: yeah, but not by the bad guy
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Latronis Tech: they fixed them BEFORE anyone else found them is what I think was meant.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: yeah
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what did Borland do that ruined Borland 
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: always reviewing all code included in the operating system itself, with less detail into the applications they allow into the ports system
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: but they review those extensively before allowing them into ports too
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: they ruined Delphi, is all I know.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: just not the constant grind the main system gets
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: zugg keeps ranting about that, but I got out of java/c++ much earlier
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: ok i need some help with this program should be simple for someone im writing the Hello World APP im at the command prompt so far this is what i have done
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: cd C:\java then i typed dir then im suppose to type javac HelloWorldAPP.java but then it says 'javac' is not recognised as an internal or external command operable program or batch file. any pointers from anyone
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: any ideas
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: hello can anyone help me
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: With a simple hello world? I don't see why that's presenting a challenge to you
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: i cant understand why it wont work
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: what app did you install?
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: im using the command prompt
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: and what language are you using?
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: given the 'javac' part, I'm guessing java
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: java
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: Oh, i must have missed that :P
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: i did the cd C:\java then that worked
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: when i typed dir it showed the file and everything
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: then when i tried javac HelloWorldApp.java thast when it didnt work
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: i figured it out nevermind
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: nope noe that also didnt work i tried this this time
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: C:\jdk6\bin\javac HelloWorldApp.java 
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Did you install java..?
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: error messages would be helpful...
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: i did give the error message
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: 'javac' is not recognised as an internal or external command operable program or batch file. any pointers from anyone
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: you don't have it installed.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: oops
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: my bad
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Latronis Tech: blazier java is in interpreter language. you have to install the java runtime compiler aka iterpreter.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: im downloading it now
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: hmm, silicon is to be phased out with gallium, making for computers that are potentially up to 10 times as fast (although design choices may make that just 3 times as fast).
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: ok must i download JDK 6 update 17 with which of the following java EE or javaFX SDK or with NETbeans 6.7.1 
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaizer Tech: think java EE will be the right one
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abdiel Tech: on Zmud is there a way to halt an alias that's running?
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: I don't think so.  You can try the escape key, but I think that's a CMud improvement
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: if it's stuck in a loop, you can perhaps try to fit in an #ABORT from the command line, but I'm pretty sure that won't be able to intercept an already-executing script.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abdiel Tech: it's not a loop, but just that it's timed, so sometimes i want to stop, or pause it.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i swear web pages load slower now than when i was on dialup 10 years ago
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: Then you're going to the wrong sites
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: Or your ISP is just full of fail
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: are you still on dial up?
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: no
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nought to do with isp, it's all to do with web design
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: after all, why do we need 1mb flash files on homepages?
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: are those 1mb code files the flash files containing the adverts
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: generally not, no
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: searching on google, a websites hints at offering information -- after downloading over 1 mb of code, the few kb of actual data is near devoid of any useful information
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if thoughts were able to torture and kill, those websites coders be boiled in oil
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: not as much as microsoft, samsung, and STEAM were boiled this week
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: would anyone know why my gauge would stop working in cmud? none of my settings look off
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: do you have the needed tags on?
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remind Hargreaves Tech: did you accidentally click that 'gun'?
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: no tags needed, and no
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: the gauge reads from a Db var that is being updated
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(VoDkA) Cirrus Tech: anyone knows how to MUD from an iphone?
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: get a telnet client
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(VoDkA) Cirrus Tech: there is telnet app for iphone?
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: i don't know, i'd guess so
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: haha cmud froze out on me now it works
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: seems to be a lot of telnet clients
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: ebay turbo lister - possibly the buggiest bit of software on the planet
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emir Icebergovich Tech: I use CMUD... and on my last pup, I got this: ERROR: argument still on stack: 85 ...  what does it mean? can I use it in debugging somehow?
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: ok so this has bothered me for awhile, i've got a zmud 7.21 trigger to read in the quest room from questor.  my other two triggers read the quest mob and quest area, but it won't read the room.  the syntax i have is : 
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: Questor tells you 'of (\d+) which is in the general area'
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: any idea why it won't recognize questors output?
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: \d+ is digit only.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: ahh that'd do it *grin*
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: isn't d numbers?
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: only started messing with regex earlier.  what is used for string read in?
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: And since it can use more than one word, you'll probably want to use . ;)
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: \w should be a word character, but \w+ won't mean multiple words, because space isn't part of multiple word characters...
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: can regex be used to store in a string of unknown number of words?  or should i just use basic zmud?
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: of (.*?) which is in the general area
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tawleriji Tech: What are you chatting about?
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: thanks abelinc :)
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in regexp, . means any character, * means 0 or more times, and ? tells it to match in as few characters as possible for the entire pattern to work
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: regex is fun
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tawleriji Tech: . means any one character, right?
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: gotcha. yeah the regex helpfile is worded a poorly imho.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes tawler
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tawleriji Tech: You use SciTE?
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tawleriji Tech: 'Scintilla Tiny Editor?
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I use editpad pro for my editor
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tawleriji Tech: Wonder if I ever tried that...
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's payware, but about the best I've come across for my needs on winderz. (of course nothing beats bbedit on a Mac ;-)
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tawleriji Tech: Ahhh. I've not found anything better than SciTE. Everyone, even your EditPad whatever uses the Scintilla DLL. Nothing faster, nothing better, and it handles very large files so gracefully. If you want to know where to find SciTE, let me know. It's on SourceForge, source code and the whole shebang. Very very nice, for every language too, C++, BASIC, asm, HTML, Apache CONFIG files, etc.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, not everyone uses the scintilla dll...notepad++ is a scintilla editor, editpad isn't
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eserokele Tech: why is it when i type big map it shows up in the aardwolf window and not the big map window?
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tags not on, or plugin disabled
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or trigs in general disabled
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eserokele Tech: can you tell me how to fix it?
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "tags on" and "tags bigmap on"
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then see if it works
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it still isn't working, go to game -> configure -> triggers, and look for the enable checkbox
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it still isn't working, make sure the main window is in focus, go to file -> plugins, and see if the Aardwolf_Bigmap plugin says Yes for enabled
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: eserokele, you ever get bigmap to show up in the bigmap window?
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eserokele Tech: no it keeps just showing up in the aardwolf window.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you checked everything I mentioned above?
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mowseykin Tech: This is weird, when I view the helpfile for rebuild it it missing several lines, but only when I'm using zMUD, not telnet
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mowseykin Tech: I even tried viewing it with aliases and triggers off
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you have a trigger gagging it in zmud
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: tell zugg you want your money back
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mowseykin Tech: It's only the lines with ~< or ~> in them, but only for that helpfile
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mowseykin Tech: This is the weirdest thing D:
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, turn off mxp
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's seeing those as mxp tags but not recognizing what they're supposed to do
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: would be my guess, anyway
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mowseykin Tech: That didn't work either
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and the gun icon in the lower-right corner is off?
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mowseykin Tech: It's off, yes
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: possibly a password issue?  By default, ZMud/CMud will gag the line that contains it
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mowseykin Tech: Can anyone else who is using zMUD tell me if the rebuild help file looks odd?
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: looks ok to me
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mowseykin Tech: Well, after all my settings blew up and I had to recreate them from backups, zMUD seems to be back to normal for no good reason :P
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: In MUSHclient, is there any way I can make an alias which works with the bast 'spellup' plugin? I tried and it bypasses it's parsing and tries to run the inbuilt mud spellup command, not the plugin one.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: execute instead of send to world
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Could you clarify that? Do I need to do something different in the alias or tweak the spellup script?
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the alias
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you've got the one-line alias part, the huge white 'what do I want it to do' part, then there's the send to part
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use the drop-down to send to execute instead of send to world
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Ah, I see it, thanks a lot :)
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: That worked beautifully, and I've learned something new :) Thanks again
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-)
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: anyone know why my p and my i keys won't work on my laptop with the buttons on and how do i fix this have to push hard to get them to work with the covers off
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salvanas Tech: sounds like something's blocking the contact? or at least stopping you depressing the key fully
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: don't see anything
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salvanas Tech: no idea then. try blowing underneath the key, or shaking it a bit, might disloddge something. otherwise, i have no idea.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salvanas Tech: i'm just guessing, i have no clue, really.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: ah i have the keys off thats the only way the will work
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: CMUD question (playing with the trial) : Can you keep vars from "bubbling up" the class hierarchy?  Or to put it another way, you have to use the full var path (CLASS1/VAR1, CLASS2/VAR2) to access them.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: If the variable exists in a class that is enabled, then it will use that variable, whether you put Class1/Var1 or just Var1.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: So, they all bubble up, but as long as you used the fully qualified name, then "collisions" with other pkgs/classes won't matter.  (Is that a correct statement?)
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Again, if the variable exists in a class that is enabled, then it uses that variable and only that variable. If you're needing the same variable name but with different classes (a stupid move, in my opinion) then you do need to have the pathname. Otherwise, you should have no problem just using Var1.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: there's at least one minor bug that can change and "get stuck" the default class.  When it happened to me, several variables of my own got stuffed into a room script folder.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Yeah, I haven't had that problem for ages, and that was when the bug first manifested.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Thanks, I think I've got my brain wrapped around it.  What threw me initially was I had a var in a class, then I happened to type #VAR, and saw the variable, and I started wondering about collisions.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Or more accurately, I was in a different class, and saw a var that was in another class.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: hmm, are there any free surface scan tools for Windows 7?
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: if i buy an external hard drive, does it really matter what operating system i have?  i've seen conflicting information on this
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: hmmm took the covers off some of the keys and vacumed near the contacts now p works but o and i don't work? anyone have any good cleaning laptop keys contacts tips
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Best tip: Replace the keyboard.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: aye i've seen that one and remove keyboard from laptop and soak in dawn and distilled water for 24hrs
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: a new laptop keyboard is fairly inexpensive.
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: how much do they run?
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ones i've replaced? $50-100
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: ah
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: can i use canned air to clean my laptop keyboard?
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: i may try the dawn first and if all else fails ill replace it
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: yes imzadi
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: ok thanks
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: get the dry type
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: i'm not sure what type i have, it's downstairs
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: well if it says its for comps it should be fine
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: damn too many i's in there
T1/r7/2009-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Anyone familiar with .dbf files? I've got one I can't seem to open... keeps asking me for the encoding, and any of the options i've tried don't seem to work
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: would anyone know why %d%s%d%s{%d|}%s(%w)%s(*) wont capture everything under area keywords, it skips some and shows some
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: for cmud :P
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: in sql if you have a table that is already made is it possiable to add another field to it?
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: alter table
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: nm haha was not reading my phpmyadmin page correctly .. i need coffee -.-
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quorthorn Tech: Are there, by any chance, any PHP game developers here who live in Spain?
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emir Icebergovich Tech: does anyone know a good disc-burning freeware?
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: cdburnerxp is ok
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emir Icebergovich Tech: trying to use Win XP built-in and it acts wierd...
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emir Icebergovich Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: Steam finally answered my support question, shame it took 4 days, and shame they still havent' solve the issue
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DekarShrike Tech: "Thank you for sending in a bug report!" is all I usually get from any support staff...
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: qq1
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: woops
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: well, they'll continue to get nagged at until either they put the necessary bugfix into the client so it doesn't happen again, or they can reimburse me for the lost software
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DekarShrike Tech: Good, do it!
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: just because you buy a game via download, doesn't mean you don't have all the same legal rights as you do buying it off the shelf
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, but you'll always have to fight for it
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DekarShrike Tech: Yeah, they should thank you for saving them shipping cost!
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also, you didn't buy the game. you merely got their permission to play it
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: well, it's not a difficult fix for the client
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: that distinction is irrelevant, dagnir
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it's the name as buying it off the shelf
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: well, you have the same rights, yes
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: that's all that matters :-)
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's just noone wants to sell you anything these days. only licence stuff
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: don't care how they deliver it, provided it works and conforms to the agreement
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: get a cracked copy if you paid for it anyway
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: not the same
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: well, you didn't pay for the software. you paid for the right to use the software. it shouldn't matter where you get it from
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if you want to play any of them online, they need to be registered in your steam account
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: cracked copies wouldn't be
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: long ago, if you bought a retail game off the shelf, you may sell and transfer that game to somebody else
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: besides which, downloading a cracked copy doesn't actually solve anything, it'd be no different to downloading the games again from Steam
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you still can, xyliz
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: but if you buy a downloaded version of a game, ...
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is the glitch you're experiencing in the steam delivery, or in the game mechanics itself?
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: steam client, abe
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: misunderstood. thought you couldn't access the game
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you can't
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if you can't login with their client, you can't access the game. That's only part of what happened to me
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: their client carefully deleted all my steam games
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: no backups ?
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: at least it was careful ;-)
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: no option to make a backup, xyliz
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: no "ghost"-type backup of the whole drive ?
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: why would i do that?
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: have you bought a second car just in case the first one gets wrecked?
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if a virus demolished the hard drive, a prior ghost backup may be convenient
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i backup vital data to cd. It's protection against catastrophic hardware failure. It doesn't protect against STEAM being dodgy
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i don't get viruses
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: apparently "Steam viruses" are not yet officially tabled
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: glitch != virus
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: facebook was hacked, perhaps Steam was hacked
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it didn't attack any data that didn't belong to it
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the steam glitch affected steam games...when fixed, it can also restore all of those games
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: no, xyliz, was just a large bug combined with really half-arsed lack of foresight on the part of the designers
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if they can fix the client, i'll have to spread downloading the games again over the next 12 months
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if they don't fix the client, they can pay me
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: 12 months of downloading -- if that is not dialup, somebody is addicted to games
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it's someone with usage limits
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: during 12 months, no usage of games not yet downloaded,  but does the Steam cost a monthly fee
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: no
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: maybe as an alternative they'd stick the content on dvd for me and mail it
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: how does Steam 'earn' their revenues
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: share of products revenue
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: essentially they're an online stoer
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: store*
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: now back to my search for the part number for a UK/EU Vista HP 32bit oem DVD
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: an online store that implants software to delete games off the harddrive when the license lapses temporarily due to a glitch is emulating a .. "trojan" 
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You pat Xyliz on her head.
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: an online store was the "short" version...it's not a store, it's a delivery system
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://store.steampowered.com/about/
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: can't find a picture good enough to get the part number off :-/
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and because that delivery system is designed to allow the owner of the game to play it on any computer, not just the one they bought it from, yes, it includes the ability to install and delete the game
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: so the fight against companies trying to rip me off continues!
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you should be able to get the part number from a MS reseller
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: need someone with an opened copy
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: part number is only on the dvd itself, not on the box
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: part number is also on the reseller's list of stuff they sell :P
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nope
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: the box part number is different to the DVD part number
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then your reseller sucks...get a new one
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: that's MS's policy, not the reseller
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oem doesn't have a box
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: yes it does
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the part you order is the part that the reseller has, is the part you need
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: comes in a dvd case inside a sealed cardboard sleeve
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: not so, abe
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sleeve != box
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes so
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: then you'd best phone up microsoft and tell them they've made a mistake
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they haven't made a mistake
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can order exactly what you should be ordering by just asking a reseller for it
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i don't want to order anything
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's no mistake by that
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i don't want to order anything, i want a part number
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You pat Feral Farkyss on his head.
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fine, the part number is 3
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: that's not correct
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since you're not doing anything with it, it's as correct as it needs to be
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: who says i wasn't doing anything with it?
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you did
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it serves exactly ONE purpose
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: no i didn't, i just said iw asn't buying it
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, so you're not doing anything with it as it is intended
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: not so
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: stop screwing around and admit that you don't need it for anything
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i need the part number so i can get microsoft to supply a replacement key
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if they made their COA such that they would stand up to wear and tear of being on the bottom of a laptop, it wouldn't have been an issue in the first place now, would it? :-)
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: does scanning the DVD header information supply a part number 
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no xyliz
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i don't know why they ever change away from the laminated coa stickers, they were far harder wearing
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: most hackers write down the informations on those CoA stickers, but apparently not nonhackers 
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: why would hackers have anything to do with COAs?
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: is it something to do with the loss of information from going from an analog COA to a digital one?
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: force of habit to document information
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he means people going to a library or school, writing down windows keys to use on downloaded CDs
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: less hacker, more petty criminal
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: software manufacturers are bigtime criminals
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: enough companies don't include DVDs that having the physical media's part number wouldn't be the only way to get the product key...we order all of our stuff w/o media since we ghost them first anyway
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: while i'm sure that works for you, abe, M$ were quite insistant that they need the part number in order to be able to issue a new key for which it would work
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: goes along with the whole "if x had done their job properly in the first place"
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, they're worried about giving you a key that won't work, as in using an oem key on a retail install won't work
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: exactly
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: contact the oem
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: the fact that i told them exactly what software i was using, trouble is, their call centres are all out in india and aimed at joe idiot, so you know how retarded their operatives are
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: laptop company has the list of keys
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: M$ -are- the oem
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, the laptop company produces the DVDs, not microsoft
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for any reasonably-sized manufacturer, anyway
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nope, might be in the case of large manu's who have oem deals with m$, this one wasn't
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: this was a standard system-builder oem, m$ have the keys to that
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: just admit that everything's poo these days and let it go at that
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is the system hard drive hosed and/or reformatted yet? you can get the key from the working system
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: original drive is dead
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have the systembuilder supply the new drive in the condition they delivered the old drive...OS-installed
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: they won't
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: won't do it at a realistic charge
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: shouldn't be any charge...you telling me this vista machine has no warranty/
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it's over a year old
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it has no warranty
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you're an idjit :P
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: desktops, don't get a warranty...laptops, you warantee out the ass
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if it has a 1yr warranty, it has a 1yr warranty
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: your warranty lasts as long as the vendor says it does
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: again, you're an idjit
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if vendors wanted to sell laptops with a 30 day warranty, they could do so entirely legally
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: using a vendor that won't let you get an extended warranty for a laptop is moronic in every sense of the word
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they can...but you don't have to buy from the guy that does it
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: extended warranties typically cost as much as the laptop
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no they don't
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: well, we can take this particular laptop as a test case - the warranty would have cost more than the cost of a new hdd + new license for vista
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Farkyss is in England where the computer dealers 'screw' the customers out of as much money as possible
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Komrad Kessel Tech: true story
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: manufacturers, xyliz, the dealers rarely have anything to do with it
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Komrad Kessel Tech: filthy swine
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you go buy a $300 tv with a 1yr warranty. Are you telling me you're going to spend $200 on a 2yr warranty extension?
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I stated that there are some things to get warranties on, and some things not to
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: laptops are a HELLS YES, GET THE WARRANTY
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: desktops, never bother
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: on a typical $500 laptop, a 1yr extension will be around $100, 2yr extension typically $250, and up to 5yrs typically either isn't available, or would double the cost of the laptop
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it's a false economy
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and for laptop, I'll often recommend getting the accidental damage warranty
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for when the hinges go bad
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i just wouldn't buy a laptop, they're crap
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: hate em
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: doubt i'll be buying windows 7 at this rate
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i'll prolly end up with an xp/linux dual boot of some kind
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You fall to the floor laughing at Feral Farkyss's remark.
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: sole purpose of the linux part will be so that i can ridicule it properly
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cain killd Abelinc looks at Feral Farkyss and says "Welcome to the dark side"
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: if i buy an external hard drive, does it matter what operating system i have?  i've seen conflicting information on this
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: what os DO you have?
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: 64 bit Vista
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: then you can use pretty much any
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if you bought a mac ext hdd you'd probably need to repartition/reformat it first
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: not if you use a file system that is universally supported like FAT
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unless it's an ancient OS back from before LBA (large block addressing), any drive will work fine with it
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: if it's plug and play i can use any?  'cause i was reading some of the reviews here on Best Buy's site and some guy wrote that he had problems with his external drive because of 64 bit Vista
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: the guy who wrote the review is probably a retard
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: buying the drive to use with an OS is different than using it between OSes
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: hehehe ok :)
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: i just need it to store my music
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it's being used on a single computer, then just reformat it on that computer
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: if you are using windows XP or greater and only plan on using the drive with windows XP or greater, NTFS is fine to format it in 
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: total size: 138gb, free space 58gb
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: (mutter steam losing all my games)
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: at least i'm not short on space :-)
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: also, can i run my external drive all the time, like if i wanted to listen to my music off the hard drive?  I'm thinking of getting this one: http://bit.ly/4vWvIC
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goatskill Tech: the guy who wrote the review probably was having issues with u3
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: u3 that stupid software they put on flash sticks?
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goatskill Tech: yep. just dealt with the same issue a few times over the past couple weeks
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it's a retrograde step and really really annoying
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a neat concept...just a poor implementation
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: better to use portableapps
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: they should supply the software for u3 on a cd and let people choose to install it
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: else they'll have the law courts down on their necks
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: (not)
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: does anyone know if i can run this kind of external drive a lot, like listening to itunes or can i only use it to sync my ipod?
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can choose to install it, they have it on a "virtual" CD such that the stick will show up as 2 drives
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: too late
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can use it normally, imzadi
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: which is what? running all the time or not running all the time?
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all the time
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: can't we ban the use of ipods and other mp3 players on public transport?
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: ok, thanks
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: i think i'm going to get this toshiba one
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: our public transport has "quiet cars" during commuter hours
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: i don't have that problem because the "headphones" i use only work with my hearing aids...people who don't have hearing aids can't hear what i'm listening to
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but as long as headphones are used and it's not blaring such that you can't tell that headphones are used, why's it matter?
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: that never happens in practice, abe
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: mp3 players are for low-intelligent humanoid animal with poor hearing
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: oh no, you've started him off again
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ser Gregor aims the crosshairs..Xyliz collapses in a pool of blood.
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you can't get portable vinyl palyers, xyliz
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: cassette tape players used to be portable
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Memnarch Tech: any mac users?
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: yes, and they were awful
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Memnarch Tech: I am using friends new one, and logging in through terminal
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure memnarch
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Memnarch Tech: screen is white and all text is grey
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Memnarch Tech: so I can't hardly see anything
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Never saw a portable phonograph?
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: some cassette players were excellent (if the bad players were avoided -- there was a lot of crap)
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nah, they were all naff - couldn't skip/repeat, limited amount of tracks, and poor output quality
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Memnarch Tech: hmm, gonna try this java client login
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: tapes were fragile, lost quality easily
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mowseykin Tech: You should be able to go to the menu and do Shell - New Window - and choose Pro or Homebrew
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right-click anywhere in the window, select window settings
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: also degraded with time
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: drop-down to color
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mowseykin Tech: Those both have darker window settings
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: poor battery life
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mowseykin Tech: Or what abelinc is saying :)
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: and also comparatively heavy
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: The point is, portable cassette players served their function adequately and for negligible cost.
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Memnarch Tech: ahh, much better
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: they did, gregor, 30 years ago
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: click the color swatch next to "use this color for background", and drag the slider on the right
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: 30 years? Your statistics are not accurate. They were still in use less than 10 years ago.
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: not round here they weren't
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the audio output from a highquality cassette player playing a highquality cassette recorded from vinyl is vastly superior to any CD or mp3
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: So, just because /you/ never saw any does not make that a representative sample of the ENTIRE WORLD.
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: representative of what was going on in this country, and that's all that matters
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Well you are talking to me, and /I/ was not discussing your country.
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nobody was expecting you to be talking about third-world countries, as anyone listening is unlikely to be from one
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: I prefer the broader picture. I couldn't give a monkeys where you live.
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xyliz recalls the days when audiophiles paid extra for highquality audiophile vinyl and for 12" singles 
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i still do, xyliz
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: 1999 would plant it smack in the middle of the era of the portable cd player
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but i listen to flac rips most of the time
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's more like a collector thing
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: True, but at that stage hadn't been rendered entirely obsolete, albeit declining in popularity.
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: was in serious decline by then
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Well yeah, according to you, it had been declining for 20 years.
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: never said that
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: other major issue is that the use of mobile music devices wasn't any remotely near as popular as it is now with mp3 players
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: doesn't change the fact that it's annoying sitting on a bus or train listening to tinny r&b residue from smelly skank of a teenager sitting nearby
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: I just mainly wanted to say that I loved my walkman, since it seemed to be getting a bit of bad press on this channel.
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: so henceforth i'm calling for all teenagers to be shot
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: agreed!
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if there are no analog versions of a digital music selection, then a listener is less likely to know how atrociously bad the digital recording is (at least until the listener mentally searches for the fine background detail)
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Well no, I agree entirely. I think it is inconsiderate to impose ones music on others whilst on public transport.
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: kids who use their phones loudspeaker are the worst
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: But it's just one of the ways society has changed. Like people stopping to answer their phone when you are in the middle of a conversation with them.
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: people answerring mobile phones in my presence period is bad
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: too bad all of your "analog" music was recorded in digital and then an analog representation of it was made, xyliz :P
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nogs, gregor
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i find it rude
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: depends, abelinc
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: mp3 music is extremely painful to listen to -- a sound worse that using a cheap phonograph to play vinyl
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xyliz stopped collecting music by 1985
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: not a viewpoint anyone else here takes seriously, xyliz
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no it's not. i love vinyl too, but at least i'm being realistic and honest with myself
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i think xyliz's opinion is based on a misrepresentation caused by his mp3 equipment being rubbish
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and him enjoying listening to sounds that weren't in the original recording :-)
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i use flac, but i really can't tell the difference between lossless and v0 mp3s with my current home audio system
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: same with vinyl. it just has "warmer" and different sound, but it's not "better" in any way
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: upon hearing the true fidelity of a popular vinyl analog music recording, the CD version is discomfiting, and the mp3 version is painful noise
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i can detect a sligth difference in general between flac and mp3, but it depends hugely on who made it
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Uh oh, hide your common sense, it's an audiophile discussion.
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: listening to some mp3s direct from a record company website. They're perfect
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: better quality than rips i'm capable of, must be a difference in encoders
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: there is more far far more discernable background detail with vinyl analog music
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what audio setup do you have at home xyliz?
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: It depends on how they're encoded. With a decent VBR encoded mp3 you won't hear the difference, and it's been proven in double blind studies.
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: discernable noise that didn't exist in the original, you mean :-)
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: don't you remember tape hum?
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: And by discernable background detail, you mean analog tube distortion.
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Because it sounds "warmer," which sounds nice. I'm a guitarist. I like analog amplification. But it's not high fidelity.
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hearing a difference, I agree with you, xyliz...you can hear a difference between vinyl and CD...where you're incorrect is that the vinyl is more correct to the original sound
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: discernable music detail extractable on repeated listening to analog versions
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you never remember fiddling with volume and eq setings to get the fidelity right, trying and get your old 8bit computer to load the tapes
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it may sound "better" to you, but you should recognize that better isn't truer
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: discernable music detail is *not* extractable on repeated listening to digital versions
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you don't know how to listen
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: perhaps xyliz is experiencing a bias that comes from only hearing the originals on vinyl first for many years
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: You are throwing words together that I'm not sure mean anything.
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: You're just adjectivizing verbs. ;)
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: yep, Farkyss
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, he wasn't paying you a compliment, xyliz ;-)
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nice that you agree that you're expressing bias and not actual cognitive abilities
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Most of the problems people hear with modern music have very little to do with format, and a lot to do with bad sound engineers and compressing a signal until it has no headroom.
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: there is a *noticeable* difference in detail with vinyl that provide intense enjoyment -- the presence of accurate detail provides the enjoyment -- "truth" provides the enjoyment
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: The best example in recent memory is the new Metallica album, Death Magnetic. The record company release is poorly mixed, it's too loud, it's not equalized properly, the bass frequencies are too quiet. When the album was released for use in Guitar Hero, they released the original studio masters as individual tracks.
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i thought that was just the rip i had, oby
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: This made it possible for hobbyists to take those individual tracks, mix them as they desired, equalize, etc., and make their own remix of the album. Almost all of them sound better than the original album.
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: It has nothing to do with the fact that it's CD or MP3 or anything else.
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: how the hell did that make it past qa?
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: because record companies are idiots
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xyliz is:expressing a statement of both bias and actual audio-cognition
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: I don't know, but the official release sounds awful.
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Komrad Kessel Tech: some are even welsh idiots
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: definitely won't be buying it then
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah xyliz, just bias...the accuracy doesn't exist
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Poke around on some of the torrent sites and look for the "Deceifer" mix. That's the one I found that sounded best to me.
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: but those poor metallica musicians might starve!
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or musicians doing like cher's "believe", making the singing electronic
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Abelinc, perhaps check your hearing, clean out the earwax,trim the ear hairs
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: metallica are a life act, they make their money from touring
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: It's called auto-tuning or vocoding.
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: do you beliIIIIIEEEEEEVe in life after lOOve (dum dum dum dummmmmmmmm)
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: lol CHER!
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my hearing, as well as scientific instrumention (even analog instrumentation) are all fine, xyliz
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: happens on pretty much all modern pop music
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: When Cher did it, it was original. When Kid Rock did it (in "Only God Knows Why") it was only slightly played. By the time T-Pain and Kanye got to it, it was ready to be buried.
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: when cher did it, it was bloody awful
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it was ready to be buried when cher did it
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: You could love or hate the song, but it was original.
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: they hven't stopped using it, oby, listen to radio 1
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: of course, cher is about ready to be buried herself
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Abelinc, maybe your ears are not connected to your mind
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it's just less obvious now
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: That's what I'm saying. T-Pain and Kanye West made it this new big thing that's played to death.
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, better my ears than my mouth/typing fingers ;-)
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Li'l Wayne, Britney Spears...
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: cheryl cole
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: alexander burke
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: leonna lewis
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: At least Leona Lewis has a good voice.
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nice voice, no personality at all
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: So she's just like most pop singers. ;)
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, it's not like I'll be hanging out with them...voice is all that matters ;-)
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: that reminds me, I found this old classic the other day that leona did a cover of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kE0pwJ5PMDg
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: biggest test of any musical talent is to listen to then live
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we'll fix that in post
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: There are bands I like in the studio that I wouldn't pay to hear live (The Tea Party, Cradle of Filth...)
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: I found that about jimmy eat world, I love some of the albums, but MAN do they sound shit live.
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: of course, you can't listen to them live anyway... most just lipsync on stage.
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: If they lip synced they wouldn't be awful live.
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: at least you know it's probably gonna be in tune if they are lipsyncing ;)
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i was impressed by some clips i saw of Pink Floyd live at Live8 a few years back, especially given that none of them had played together in 2 decades
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: when listening to the SuperTramp song "Child of Vision" on the album "Breakfast in America", centre upon and follow the saxaphone(?) in the background -- in the vinyl/cassette analog version the sax remains "true", but in the CD version, the sax is often obscured out by the louder sounds and is a defective rendition of the original -- this is especially discernable in the three minute 45 second instrumental ending.
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: no doy
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, 50 minute response to the thread. You never disappoint, xyliz :-)
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: wtf? i've had a nap and been to dinner and he's still going on?
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: however, he neglects to say which of the remasters he's referring to, and apparently doesn't know the definition of the term "remaster"...aspects of which have already been gone through in the thread
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: using a 1979 CD
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: psst, cd's weren't around til 86
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: not popularly, but they did exist in 79
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: I believe
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nope
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: not the most reliable source but wikipedia sayeth
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: .          Jilted : "Audio CDs have been commercially available since October 1982."
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: The compact disc is a spin-off of the Laserdisc technology. Philips publicly demonstrated a prototype of an optical digital audio disc at a press conference called "Philips Introduce Compact Disc"[2] in Eindhoven, The Netherlands on March 8, 1979
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: I would like to focus on the words "defective rendition" - the album is the work of an artist, and the arist made a change to his or her work... it is not proper to consider one or the other "defective"
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the CD-3708 jacket states (P) & (C) 1979 on the printed material 
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Me Wantee Freggle Tech: jay us dutch! ;)
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: that's when the recording was made, xyliz
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the performance copyright is 79...
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in music, there are 2 royalties involved...the work and the performance...
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if there's a difference between the cd and vinyl, could be that it was remastered for the cd
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: quad, depends on who is making the decisions
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it was, farky
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: True, but either way, "defective" is still a poor term
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there were multiple remasters done of that album for CD
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: the practice of remastering for cd was quite popular
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: If it skipped, I'd call it defective
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: but if it's remastered or an instrument is rebalanced, I wouldn't call it defective
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: xyliz is blaming the CD media...
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Ahh, I only saw the one message, so I'm out of context I guess
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so yeah, we can understand that the remixer focused on the organ rather than the sax, but he's claiming that the CD can't reproduce the sax well enough to be heard
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: hmm anyone know of any surface scanners for Windows 7?
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: some clicking sounds coming from my HDD :(
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: eh?
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: just download your manufacturer's bootable iso for one
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: by manu, i mean, hdd manu
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the Badfinger song "Baby Blue" -- the "24 Karat Gold" CD version (1995) sounds slightly different to the ordinary CD version (1993) which is different to the cassette version recorded from vinyl (1971) -- all discernable differences
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: cassette versions aren't copied from vinyl
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: unless -you- copied it
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xyliz transfers music from vinyl to cassete to preserve the original
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: i own music vinyl from the 1960s
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: that proves one thing
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: dodgy taste in music :-)
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you're still having this retarded argument?
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: no, dagnir
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: the stage is free for you to say something important
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: Here follows something important from Dagnir:
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: windows sux
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i tend to use shutters myself
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: in php if i have a variable $row["rowname"] which is a sql fetch, is there a way to set it to a single variable so i can do a str_replace on it?
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Simple C question if anyone wants to send a tell
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: anyone had particularly good luck with a .net hosting provider?
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Any netbook users around?
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: netbooks are those laptops that got shrunk in the wash, right?  :)
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Precisely
T1/r7/2009-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: any C programmers about?
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: so i just decided to use gimp instead of pirating photoshop
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: where is the line tool
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: vb scanner classes: anyone know why    <varname>.hasNext()    is infinitely true, or at least appears to be ? put in a while loop, pop next value each time, and it still never stops. what am I missing
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: I know how to work around it, but I'm tasked with using a while loop
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: whee! got my first bsod on windows 7
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: !!
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: any idea how to replace colour codes with %ansi() colours for echoing item names with zmud?
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(VoDkA) Cirrus Tech: anyone know if theres a plugin to copy paste with colour for mushclient?
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: yep.
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (VoDkA) Cirrus goes "WHEE!" and dances around Blessed Balaam.
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(VoDkA) Cirrus Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: welcome.
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I have one on my website.  It's in my finger info
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(VoDkA) Cirrus Tech: ok
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: anyone know if dreamweaver has a wildcard for searches?
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: -g 5
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rau Tech: you can do regular expression searches in dreamweaver
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i just noticed that :P
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: windows XP: is there any easy/quick way to remove all empty folders from a directory
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not without some form of batch file
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: won't select-all, delete work?
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that'd get rid of non-empty folders as well
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salvanas Tech: ctrl-A, shift+del
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salvanas Tech: oh yeah...
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: too many to check/do manually?
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: just being lazy. I know my ftp client has a similar option, but I need to actually transfer to get at it :(
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone any good at picking locks?
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: got a pc with a caselock that they've lost the keys to
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: wonder what the limitations are in the use of heatpipes
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: really difficult to make a silent pc these days
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iyethar Tech: What does the third field in the invmon output represent?
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Container.
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: More specific, container id.
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iyethar thanks Charitable Charneus heartily.
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Squeeky Kroz Tech: what would you use to remove ' and , from something? subchar or subregex? and how:)
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: replace is just as good
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: If you want to do both them at the same time, use subchar.
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Squeeky Kroz Tech: i was looking for a bigger thing, i have more chars to replace
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Squeeky Kroz Tech: k, thanx
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Use %subchar("string","all items you want removed")
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Squeeky Kroz Tech: what if you want to remove " ?
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: stripq is about your only option
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: " is one of the special, special characters that even the parser has trouble with, so trying to refer to it in a string makes it think there's an extra "
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Squeeky Kroz Tech: thanx:)
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: note to self do not close winamp while cmud is connected -.-
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: if i had a sql dump file that was about 30mb is it safe to assume that if i download a .zip version of the sql file with more data it should be around the same size?
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: much more data
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: then yes
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: fing doomcaster
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: -.- no one saw that
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Woot, I just learned how to do something new in emacs.
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: gratz ... tech me something new -.-
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Before now I am ashamed to say I'd been using perl scripts for it :P
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: it's only shameful if you knew about it and use perl scripts anyways
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: its ok, im stuck using php till i get unlazy and learn something new
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Emacs is worth learning.
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: It's a great OS. ;)
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: just so you can truly appreciate vim
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon goes 'pfft' at Trashbat! Anipopo and covers him with globs of spittle!
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: oh, gods, not a editor war...
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i think the next thing i want to learn is lua *shifty eyes*
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: help, i'm being victimmised
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Lua is good too. But if you know emacs, you can PROGRAM LUA IN IT!
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: lua is annoying
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: so was learning C at 15 :P
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: <insert self-inflating ego statement>
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: No one should ever try to learn C as a first programming language.
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: lua is fine, up to a point
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: why not?
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: looks like i took the hard route -.-
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Because it's ugly and disgusting and you get so caught up in the syntax that you don't learn the art.
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: :)
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: C is the ultimate CYA language, and it forces you to develop good habits.  If you try to shortcut C and don't know what you are doing, you can break things pretty easily.
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: disagree, learn assembler, then c
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: by the time you get to 'higher level' language you understand exactly what is going on behind the scenes.
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: C only has one error message, the Blue Screen of Death. :)
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Not really.
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: in which case, start with bf!
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: now really, the "C" here has another error message.
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: #Connection Closed.
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon sniggers quietly to herself, reflecting over an amusing thought.
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: right now im suck on php/mysql crap, its taking me longer to learn then i wanted it to
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: learning Assembler and then C++ -- two vastly different ideologies
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: you know we were in discrete math examining space complexity versus time complexity and someone who only knows java suggested that we use a container class in order to cut down on our Big O for a given algorithm, totally unaware of the complexity of keeping n objects sorted
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: first computer I had, the only programming option was Z80 assembler, and you had to program it uphill both ways, in the snow.
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: we weren't talking about C++, that's different.  C++ is C with errorchecking
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: i started on 6502
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: thats one of the problems of learning a high level language first, or only knowing a high level language, you begin to think that if it happens wher eyou can't see it, it doesn't happen
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: further, I've been painfully forced to use code from people who consider programming an art, and not a science, and that also bugs me :p
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: C with error checking? That's kind of like saying a bus is just a horse with wheels
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: error checking was the most important feature.  It allowed C to become a newbie-friendly language because doing something you don't understand no longer meant having to restart the computer to fix the error your code created.  Your code, in most cases, simply failed to compile.
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: although imho, c++ is still the best compromise between performance and features of a higher level language.
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: yeah, who cares about being able to avoid such code like unions and double or triple void pointers to get polymorphic behavior
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: with C, you can overwrite the memory space used by the OS, forcing a BSD (back then, I don't think it was even blue).
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: I think thats more the advent of protected processing modes than moving to c++
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: you almost sound like you're saying c++ doesn't have directly accessible pointers, nah, that can't be what you mean.
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: anyway, afk.
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: ie, moving from windows 3.1 to windows 95 :p
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: if you try that in C or in C++ on any reasonable system, you won't BSD, the OS will just seg fault your program.
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: we did what I described in Windows 95.  Our teacher let us do it once and then told us to never do that again if we wanted a passing grade.
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: that's a function of the OS, not a "difference between C and C++"
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: windows 95 lacked true SMP, thats an OS issue
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: not a language issue
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: windows 95 didn't have any of the problems its predecessor had
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yaomiqui chuckles at Pleiades's joke.
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: does anyone have the link to the bast plugin script page? on a different computer
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: any ideas?
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: basically i c/p ed all my world directory files onto a flash drive for my trip but forgot the stuff from the lu directory
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: so i need the link to basts stuff so i can put those lua files in
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: so nobody has the link?  its like a google code page or something of that nature
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i can't find it from google
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Count Cagliostro Tech: anyone online who knows a bit about Mush i could ask a question?
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Count Cagliostro Tech: Anyone use Mush? i have a question..
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lots of people use MUSH, just ask the question
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Count Cagliostro Tech: kk, have 3 windows, main, map and stats, have them side by side, just seen a video where the map/stats overlay the main one, how can i do this?
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the video was likely for a "miniwindow" version of the plugin
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: miniwindows were introduced in 4.34 (one tiny version newer than the aard download), so you'd need to upgrade by downloading MUSH from mushclient.com (it'll install right over your current no prob)
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Count Cagliostro Tech: video was: http://www.youtube.com/user/Jainh872#p/u/3/QvceEH3L4co  And i did just download from aard 4.33 Shall try the new one, sounds simple enough. Thanks! :)
T1/r7/2009-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, those are miniwindows...after you upgrade your mush, you'll need miniwindow versions of the plugins...bast has some at http://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/Intro
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eserokele Tech: does anyone know about excel
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: just ask the question
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: if someone knows/can be bothered to answer, you'll get an answer
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eserokele Tech: how do i make a check mark in excel i cant seem to find it. i have a list of mobs and i want to check it off.
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: As a guess, you change the cell data type.. But I've never noticed a checkmark option there
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: i think you can do conditional formatting to make it look like a tick
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eserokele Tech: ok i just couldn't remember how to do it thank you.
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: excel 07
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eserokele Tech: yeah
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: when do new laptops come out? is there a cycle
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Not really, Bonjour. Prices tend to drop this time of year for christmas, and again near september for back to school though.
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: ooh ok. new versions come out when? i had bad experience... i bought apple macbook pro xmas and right after 2jan they released new one...
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: find out what spec you want first before looking :)
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: New laptops... watch for new processors coming out though. Theres not a specific time of year, but when a new processor comes out older tech gets cheape4r, and newer tech on the market
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: You can give me the Macbook Pro and buy a new one
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Then it won't feel wasted.
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: any regular cycles pls?
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: nods nods. i feel wasted...
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Bonjour.. its not like theres a huge gap between what you got and what came out after.
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: can thenetbook types with 1.8 xhz run zmud?
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Performance wise, anyway
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: DEfinately, Bonjour
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: it can? oooh
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: fast?
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Just make sure they are XP... Zmud doesn't play nicely with Vista, and I don't know about 7
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: any computer that came out in the last decade could run zmud
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: The sys requirements of Zmud are very low, Bonjour.
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: hmm, i kinda need ... cmud but i dunno how to move zmud to c
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You buy Cmud
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: yah and zmud
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Cmud will more or less import all of the zmud settings straight across.
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: it crashed.
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Also, Cmud DOES work under vista, and assumedly 7
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: If it crashed, restart it 
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: lol is it true cmud/zmud has only 1 person programming it?
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: i'm running zmud under vista atm fwiw
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: i did...
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: does it work well
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod elrast.. it runs, just not well.
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: i haven't had problems, but ymmv
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: ok, igot no complex scripts i just alias etc.
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Also, if getting a netbook.. i'd rather have an XP version then a Vista. Might consider a W7 model
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: is sony good?
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: can it run some office apps. winword, powerpoint xls?
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: netboko that is. and outlook
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Also Bonjour.. if considering one of the smaller netbooks, DEFINATELY try one out in person.. I was wanting one forever, till i got my hands on one..... Keyboard is too small for my hands.
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: apple/lenovo are the better ones quality wise
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: i am wary asking salesperson.
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: oh it fits nicely into my handbag.
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: i bring my bag to test
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: erm... ok sorry u meant typing.
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I'll cast my vote in on lenovo. But sonys are very nice as well, but they tend to be more expensive for what you get.
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: wud abt fujitsu?
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod, Bonjour. My hands are probably bigger then average though... So tiny keys.... Its workable in a pinch - but I wouldn't want to mud or type from it, just web browse and the like
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: lenovo is good for the thinkpad series.  the ideapad series is not quite as good.
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I've heard good things about Fujitsu - But no first hand experience.
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: fujitsu laptops are either quite nice or require changing the mobo every couple of months. depends on the model
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: decide on whether you want a fullsize keyboard or not too
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: i am using say a 11.3" lightweight dell
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ah, fair enough Balaam. Though Thinkpad == business laptops, Ideapad == Consumer laptops.
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: small keyboards can look ok at first, but a pain in the ass if you're not used to it a month down the track
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: the diff is like watching movies?
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: any brands taht dun have a very noisy kb?
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: (definitively "definitely")
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nah, Bonjour. Thinkpads don't tend to have any sort of  upgraded graphics, tend not to have surround outs, webcams, remotes, the sort of things a consumer might want
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: i want something that makes the zmud fonts look sharper.
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Faulty Bot Elrast . o O ( ascii accelerator card )
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: .. The displays on the sonys and HPs look best to me - but I can't abide by the glossy screens on a laptop
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon laffs at Faulty Bot Elrast.
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: very very dark red
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: something that does well in sunlight too
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: for when i take trains
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ... I want a device with an e-Ink screen for mudding =p
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: if sunlight readable is a requirement, look for a transreflective display
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: like iphone?
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: ok these are new terms i post-it first.
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: it'll probably cost though
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: for i have bad memory...
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: u mean touchscreen like iphone?
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Transreflective screens are the type they tend to use on newer gps units, so sunlight doesn't affect them as much.
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Normal LCDs you can't see very well in the light
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: e-ink doesn't update quickly enough for scrolling to look decent yet.
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: transreflective are much better.
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: yah salesguys dun let me take out into sun to see
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: nods, transmissive LCDs wash out under sunlight
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: True, Balaam. Hopefully it'll get there.
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: transrelective.
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: i read ebooks fine on iphone
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Daloran:  It's progressing quite quickly.  I'm hoping for it too.
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Refresh rate for an ebook reader is moot, but, something like that would be handy
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: tat one shld level tier mort
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Hoping I can find my textbooks in ebook format, so i can justify buying myself a kindle =3
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: lol kindle 2 is shiny!
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: <-- in australia.  ebooks too expensive :(
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: wud happened to plasticlogic, r they even coming out
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Plasticlogic.. those were the foldable e-ink screens?
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: i tot they r supposed to do the scroll thingy... like roll up newspapers
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: yup
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod, supposed to be an ebook reader with one of those coming out in late 2010
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: So says the rumour mill, anyway
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: they have deferred time n again
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: that'll lead to screens you can stick onto walls :)
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: may i ask something
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I'm.. hoping the crunchpad comes out soon. If it's going to.
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Bonjour: You just did!
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Zing
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: ok what's a crupad
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: lol :)
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Crunchpad were supposed to be low cost tablet pcs.. no keyboard. touchscreen the size of a sheet of paper
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: they say iphone can aard?
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: how?
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You can get a telnet client for an iphone, yeah.. but.. it'd be messy
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: typing on a crunchpad seems like it would be weird.
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: ooh it's like..
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/06/03/crunchpad-the-launch-prototype/ -- crunchpad
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: they need to hv those interfaces...
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: where they show bigmap u touch the dot
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: and it runs there
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: i'm waiting for vr920 to come out, then you don't even need a conventional screen :)
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Bonjour: I log in occasionally with mtelnet.  It is a horrible interface, though.  Mostly due to the keyboard.
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod Balaam.. though its not the typing i'm wanting it for.. being able to use it to watch movies while on the treadmill would be handy. or web browsing.
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: If it had bluetooth, BT keyboard/mouse would be handy as well
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I wonder if the crunchpad will be liquid proof.  We all know what the Internet is for, and that could get messy.
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: lol..
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: heh
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: wipe proof!
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daloran squeeges his crunchpad.
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Even with Charmin?
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: If its <$300, and has a battery life of 2+ hours, I think it'll be a winner
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: disposable computer huh
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No, rechargable
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: when cloud computing takes off i can imagine disposable computers though
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: if wifi/omgspeednet is available
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: well, with rollable epaper, you could have disposable computers on a paper towel dispensor.
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Faulty Bot Elrast . o O ( mind out of gutter, mind out of gutter... )
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if you want to trust all your data and computing power to someone else you don't know, then more fool you
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: as i found with STEAM
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: i didn't say i'd use cloud for everything :O
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: (dispensar dispenser dispensir dispensor dispensur dispensyr) -- a dispensable dispensary dispensation dispenser dispensing 
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: the xyliz bot finally broke down
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: that's because it was analog
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: tech -h dispens
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaspious Tech: any here know much about asus computers?
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they're like any other computer
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Komrad Kessel Tech: nogs, like any other computer, if you buy them from dcass, they only work for 2 weeks
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: does => work in php or is there another way to do this?
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: does anyone know why all of a sudden mush would have been inserting say before every command i typed until i closed/reopened it
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you hit ctrl-shift-a
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to menu input -> autosay
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: in the future ctrl shift a will toggle that back off?
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, or the menu
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krispin Tech: how come my big map isent showing?
T1/r7/2009-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Count Cagliostro Tech: i disabled the bigmap window in aardmush, but it still opens the window/world bigmap each time i start client again.. anyone know how to disable that?
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Count Cagliostro Tech: disabled bigmap plugin rather..
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krispin Tech: anyone there?
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: where is there?
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krispin Tech: how come my big map isent showing?
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Loony Lachdanan boggles at the concept.
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volans Tech: try minimizing maximizing your window again
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krispin Tech: ya that doesnt work but for sum reason it works at my mominlaws
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krispin Tech: is it cuz im using xp?
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: anyone heard of ClearView?
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zonaiko Tech: Alastair mentioned that it's possible to have a Hide/Sneak/Invis indicator in my prompt.  Anyone know how to do that with the Aardwolf MUSH client?
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Anyone familiar with Microsoft Onenote, and Evernote? And might know of any other similar packages?
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelst Tech: Anyone here happen to know why I can copy every colour in zmud but this?
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelst Tech: doesn't copy the code or anything. :/
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immerez Tech: is this a trick question?
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelst Tech: Nope.
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelst Tech: for example, look at how it comes out for Jade's (M)(H) Jade Elixir (60)
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kelst goes, "Heh."
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Count Cagliostro Tech: in mushclient i disabled the bigmap plugin and closed the window, but when i restart client the window still opens (w/o show the bigmap) how can i stop this?
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: don't restart the client.
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Remove the plugin, don't leave it disabled.
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Count Cagliostro Tech: did that, disabled then removed.. :(
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Then saved the world file?
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Count Cagliostro Tech: File > Save World Details? yes, if u mean anything else, no.. :P
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Count Cagliostro Tech: hmm could it be that aardinit plugin is opening those windows?
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: ah, that could be it.  I don't have that plugin, so I have no idea what is in it.
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Count Cagliostro Tech: me neither :/ but it came with aardmush, i deleted the bigmap world file and that plugin acted up..
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: someone go take a wee for me
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: <troll>
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: <aggravated response>
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: hurrah!
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: what's your opinion of how long a laptop should last without going wrong?
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Should I start complaining about a lack of a </troll> tag?  There are standards on the Intarweb.
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: would it matter, balaam, browsers wouldn't implement it properly even if it were
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Hopefully troll tags go the way of the blink tag.
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: You should change to whatever browser you currently aren't using, as yours obviously is the worst.
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: still annoys me that firefox doesn't handle &pound properly
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: It annoys me that most sites don't support links.
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: and it annoys me when someone brings me a pc in for virus removal and it has 4 different browsers on it
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: When a browser gets infected, you should get a different browser.  Can't go on using an infected browser.
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: so it seems :-) but in this case it's just stupid people install crap they don't need
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: my browser ins infected with moose :/
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: And sadly, I think I have 7 browsers installed.
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: using a new browser cos the old one is infected would require intelligence
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i'm horrified by firefox though, before the latest version they were immmmensely slow compared to ie
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: 3.5 seems ok, aside from some funky behaviour with literals
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Firefox hasn't been fast since Mozilla ate it back up.  They kind of ditched the "stripped down to the minimum" philosophy they started with.
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: amused me when ie8 first got released and pretty much half the web didn't render properly on it
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: 80% didn't, according to acid3
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i quite believe it
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: ie8 expressed some rather unusual behaviour
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: FireFox 3.0 is showing 72%, and chrome is showing 100%.  This is on an Ubuntu system (chrome doesn't have java support there).
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: and Chrome is still lying, as there's a pink X at the corner of the screen that shouldn't be there.
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: http://acid3.acidtests.org/ for anyone as easily entertained as I am.
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i dislike chrome on principal
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: hrm...  links gets a 0/100.  I assume... it won't display the percentage.
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: w3m is as bad as links.
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I don't see how you can dislike chrome on principal...  It is by definition shiney.
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it's by google
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: therefore it's tainted
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: shiney taint!
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: microsoft just want your money, google want your soul
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: Indeed! Therefore, Google > Microsoft
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: google should stick to search engines
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I'm just waiting for Google to switch all their stuff to pay software and services.  People won't be able to do anything on the Intarwebs anymore.
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: and spying on people for the american government
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: which it's blatantly obvious they are doing
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I'd like to think they are spying on everyone for their own nefarious purposes.
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Komrad Kessel Tech: for the purposes of moose
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nah, it's always for the US government
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I wonder if Google's cache has exceeded the size of the actual Internet yet.
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: did you ever see the final page on the internet?
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I beat the Internet.  Really tough end boss.
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: your mom?
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Yeah, she tried to make me go outside.  Then I got a job doing server support!  I win.
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Faulty Bot Elrast nogs.
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: overnight job too.  I never see the light of day.
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: they tried to make me go to rehab
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jyscal Tech: friend
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jyscal Tech: Sorry about that.
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: im not your friend, pal
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hawkings Tech: i am not your buddy, friend
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you're not anyone's friend
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: i'm not your friend, chum
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jyscal Tech: Cool.
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emir Icebergovich Tech: no ones anyopals, friends
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hawkings Tech: i am not your chum, guy
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I'm not your guy, comrade
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm not your comrade, mom
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I'm not your mom, bro
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Melko Tech: does anyone know how you stop zmud from blanking out any lines with pa55word in it? (when it's spelt correctly)
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: you just told everyone your password.
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it shouldn't blank out lines with pa55word in it, it should blank out lines with your actual pa55word in them...your pa55word isn't pa55word, is it?
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: I tried it, you really did (that disconnect was me)
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karranir Tech: holy crap did someone just pull the 'did you know the game won't let you type your password' trick?
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karranir Tech: did i just miss it?
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, not quite karranir...someone actually had their pword set to the word pword
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: to answer the question, it's a preference in ZMud.  Go find it, and uncheck it if you REALLY want to see the password.
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but if you have your pword set to something that won't be found on the MUD, then the preference won't matter and you'll be safer overall ;-)
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karranir Tech: is it a preference? i think it's a hidden trigger in some versions, but i'm not on zmud anymore and couldn't check that
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karranir Tech: and yeah, you need to change your password either way now...
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: it's a preference.  If you are using the free version, too bad for you.
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: if I try to zip/rar a folder that contains zip files will the prog attempt to compress them further or skip them ?
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on the program
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: do you know which will most likely skip existing zips >?
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, there's a few ways that programs handle it...some have a set of file types they won't bother trying to compress, some start compressing and if the compression ratio isn't good they skip, some will compress the whole file and compre with the original and inject the smaller into the archive, and yeah, some will recompress no matter what
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: ugh. k thanks
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and of course, other than in obscure white papers, few bother to tell you which mechanism they use ;-)
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they'll all make it so that you'd have to uncompress twice to get the uncompressed file, though...whether they recursively compress or not, so can't really even test by throwing a zip into an archive ;-)
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: is there an easy way to make windows' search recognize .m4a as audio/music ?
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd guess not, as .m4a extension isn't a supported file type in WMP by default
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, might want to check out http://www.whitebear.ch/music
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Anyone have any suggestions/preferences as to what is the best Opensource linux for Media useage?
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: anyone familiar with what is storing the recast list in rimso's spellup script ? the wearoff msgs seem to just query the db and #sub the line
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: switch to a tags spellup script :-)
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: sorry, I'm inherently lazy, I'll stick with what I have :)
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, rimso doesn't even come up for me right now...is 3.4 the newest spellup for them?
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: I dunno, I've got the version from when v3 went live. lemme check
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: I'd wager they didn't change any of the core, just the updated vs msgs
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: v 3.3.4
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: err  3.3.2
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I guess they've got a weird numbering scheme :P
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Anyone got a capture script for tt++?
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I used to have one, but I lost them a while back ... bit lazy to work things out again, and also want to see alternatives :D
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try http://aardwolf.chicomecoatl.angelfire.com/blog/
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Trying ...
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a capture script for tintin or tinyfugue basically just involves logging channels to file, then opening up a tail -f on the file
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yeah ... in a separate xterm
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I did that before... was wondering if there was any better way :)
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: other options would be using screen virtual windows instead of xterms, but same principles
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Hmm ... screen is tempting. Though I wanted xterms because I wanted to create windows alongside the 'main' mud window.
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, you can get fancy with split screens, but I haven't bothered, and I use xterms when I capture
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: so how screwed am I that i ran a scan on my external drive and it just died about 2/3 through?  i canceled it and now i can't even access the drive
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Any linux gurus around?  Have some wireless networking questions.
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jinxa Tech: Can someone walk me through turning off sticky keys?
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: press shit 5 times
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: oops!
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ira Deorum Velian laughs derisively at Swangin and his inability to write a simple social!
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: shift*
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eserokele Tech: ha 
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jinxa Tech: I did that, When I click settings to turn it off it doesnt do anything.
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jinxa Tech: I need to go in manually.
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: scream at your computer
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i need to stratch the F key off my shift key, its misspelled
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: not funny :(
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Swangin )
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jinxa Tech: Nobody can help me? =(
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: oh wow lame
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: google?
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: cleverbot.com?
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: I believe the answer was already given
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jinxa Tech: No, Urwin it wasnt.
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: do you have vista? or xp?
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: yes, it was.  You have to do it manually.
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: spend some quality time in the control panel
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eserokele Tech: just click it 5 times, then click settings, uncheck all, then apply.
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jinxa Tech: XP
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jinxa Tech: I did, The settings wont come up Eserokele
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: if you got teamviewer i might be able to help
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ira Deorum Velian Control Pannel : Accessibility Options : Keyboard : Sticky Keys off
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: that works too
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jinxa Tech: Can you handle the intense porn on my desktop?
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eserokele Tech: it didn't show accessability options?
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jinxa Tech: OH, Velian, I went to the Accessibility options, And they arn't working.
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: we play Aardwolf, remember?  We've definitely seen worse
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eserokele Tech: lol/
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: RULE 34!!!!
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: uninstall reinstall drivers?
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: ahhh
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krispin Tech: any idea why the bigmap window on the mush client isent showing
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: sounds like something is messing up in windows
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krispin Tech: i no it works fine at my parents using vista
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eserokele Tech: vista is poo
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jinxa Tech: Okay, Anyone know how I can un-install and re-install my driver without renewing my computer?
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i disable stickey keys from day 1. i sometimes forget what im doing and hold down shift forever, and i hate the bios beep when the stickey key box pops up
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krispin Tech: any idea how i can fix the issue with the bigmap windows using mush client?
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: what issue is it?
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krispin Tech: it doesnt show
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: are maptags on?
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krispin Tech: how do i check
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: type tags with no arguments
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krispin Tech: ya they were on
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Hmm... Is the bigmap plugin installed on main window?
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krispin Tech: ill check
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krispin Tech: how do i check
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: file -> plugins
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krispin Tech: once sec
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krispin Tech: whats the pluggin called?
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Bigmap_<something> (its been a while since i used mush)
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krispin Tech: no its not but im gonna download it
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: You're using the aardmush from teh aardwolf site, right?
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krispin Tech: ya
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krispin Tech: were do i find this plug in
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: It should be in something like C:/program file/MUSHclient/world/plugins/aardwolf
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: If you go to file -> Plugins and click the "add" button, it should take you right to where the plugins are.
T1/r7/2009-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krispin Tech: k one sec
T1/r7/2009-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: the difference between logical or and logical xor is that logical or can have both be true?
T1/r7/2009-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PongMaster Tech: err... could someone tell me why my cp check is finished but i'm still on my cp?
T1/r7/2009-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: anyone know of a good program to take songs from your ipod and put it on an external hard drive?
T1/r7/2009-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starbug Tech: itunes?
T1/r7/2009-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: I vote for a simple bash script
T1/r7/2009-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: starbug: itunes doesn't do that
T1/r7/2009-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Certified Tech: Anyone here decently experienced in computer networking?
T1/r7/2009-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: Someone messed with the Mushclient on my computer, and now all the "a"s in my text are highlighted to white instead of whatever color they normally would be.  Is there any way to fix this?
T1/r7/2009-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: to clarify, (Red Aura) normally looks like that, but when it comes now, it looks like (Red Aura)
T1/r7/2009-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: (Red Aura) rather.
T1/r7/2009-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: mininova got dead
T1/r7/2009-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Word 2007 and Wordpad are refusing to open a Word 6.0 document. How do I convert it to Word 2003 or 2007?
T1/r7/2009-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Does the file open in Word 6.0?
T1/r7/2009-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erko Tech: there's a conversion program
T1/r7/2009-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: The file was created in Wordpad as a Word 6.0 document
T1/r7/2009-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erko Tech: on MS website
T1/r7/2009-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: OK, thanks
T1/r7/2009-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jyscal Tech: Does anyone know how i can try fix a spellup problem. When i type in Spellup i get "Sorry, you cant do that" or "Unknown command". Its been fine up until about 2 weeks ago. I've tried two other clients with the same thing and since yesterday it has also started giving errors during speedwalks.  
T1/r7/2009-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: are you certain you haven't set a client or mud-side alias called spellup?
T1/r7/2009-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: have you tried typing 'spellu'
T1/r7/2009-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: that would prob tell you quickly if it works
T1/r7/2009-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jyscal Tech: i had one set but deleted it once it started giving problems. Ill try that now thanks.
T1/r7/2009-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jyscal Tech: Same thing. I have'nt set an alias in the other clients though and it gives the same error.
T1/r7/2009-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jyscal Tech: Is there a way to find out which alias'es i have set upon the mud?
T1/r7/2009-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: alias
T1/r7/2009-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jyscal Tech: Would one of the spellup plugins maybe work if i tried one?
T1/r7/2009-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jyscal Tech: I managed to fix it. Had cast set to an alias. Thanks for the help.
T1/r7/2009-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PongMaster Tech: anyone know of an issue with cp's being completed (cp check empty) but it not awarding the qp? and if there's a solution?
T1/r7/2009-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're gagging cp c output
T1/r7/2009-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're still listed as being on a campaign
T1/r7/2009-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zefoj Heafmo Tech: portable mushclient, is it as simple as copying the directory onto a memory stick?
T1/r7/2009-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: check out bast's page on it
T1/r7/2009-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/PortableMushclient
T1/r7/2009-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: DON'T DO IT! IT'S A TRICK!
T1/r7/2009-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zefoj Heafmo Tech: Thanks Abe
T1/r7/2009-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zefoj Heafmo Tech: hm?
T1/r7/2009-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You decide the only way to have some quiet is to gag . o O (  ) Habasi.
T1/r7/2009-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: sorry, I get excited when I see web addys
T1/r7/2009-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captor Tech: anybody know why something like {coords}0,30,20 appears in each room desc. ?
T1/r7/2009-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: help tags
T1/r7/2009-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: type tags off
T1/r7/2009-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captor Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Count Cagliostro dives from the shadows and TAGS Captor.  Captor IS IT!
T1/r7/2009-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Is there any way, on windows, to use a client to get what song is being played on WMP?
T1/r7/2009-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there should be plugins to access that, yeah
T1/r7/2009-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: WMP plugins for it? I couldn't find one.
T1/r7/2009-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are wmp plugins to grab and/or publish that info to various places
T1/r7/2009-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: I was more asking if its stored somewhere in the background, such as a shell instance of the current playback that i could grab with the #run command in tt.
T1/r7/2009-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://brandon.fuller.name/archives/hacks/nowplaying/wmp/ is one that creates an xml file with what's being played, with options to put that file onto remote systems and post to twitter
T1/r7/2009-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can monitor that xml file with your client
T1/r7/2009-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: That should work, thanks.
T1/r7/2009-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tikuranari Tech: Anyone familiar with subbing in general? Like subbing (friend) with a nasty word? (mushclient)
T1/r7/2009-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tikuranari Tech: (mushclient not nasty word I was talking about, but might aswell have been)
T1/r7/2009-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tikuranari Tech: Well?
T1/r7/2009-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: most client subs are basically just a trigger with 2 parts...(1) a gag, and (2) an echo to replace what was gagged
T1/r7/2009-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tikuranari Tech: nod, but any help with my current issue?
T1/r7/2009-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not without knowing your current issue
T1/r7/2009-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tikuranari Tech: I said that I wanted to sub (friend) on ftalk with something else
T1/r7/2009-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are you trying to change the display on your own computer, or change what gets sent to the MUD when you type something...if the former, then my last statement WAS help with your current issue...
T1/r7/2009-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tikuranari Tech: umm.. ok?
T1/r7/2009-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tikuranari Tech: I guess I'll just figure it out myself
T1/r7/2009-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you read what I wrote? I didn't leave that much to figure out...for step 1, it's simply a checkbox in the trigger
T1/r7/2009-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: what files do you copy over to a bootstick if you are using legacy grub and wanna put it on /dev/uba1 ?
T1/r7/2009-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Squeeky Kroz Tech: how would you create a trigger to capture the room from where info?
T1/r7/2009-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what does shift-tab do in zmud 
T1/r7/2009-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: I believe it cycles through windows
T1/r7/2009-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: shift-tab plus a character on the command line seems to expand that character of the commandline to something from the screen or some buffer
T1/r7/2009-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: shift-tab plus letter(s) on the command line expands those characters from a word on the screen buffer (from the most recent)
T1/r7/2009-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Why might logging not be working on MUSHclient?
T1/r7/2009-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I changed the default folder to a location in my documents (instead of Program Files)
T1/r7/2009-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: and there's no output file anymore.. :(
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorphia Tech: any one familiar with portal mud client?
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i know in cmud you can do  but is there a way to replace multiple things at one or would a list work?
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: does anyone use zmud and the automapper in it? i get garbage instead of room names with it. like !??"!
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: any idea why it happens?
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: need to setup the room detection parameters properly
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: been a while since i did it though
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: the autodetect mostly works iirc
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: ozzy has a setup on his website ... uhhhh ... http://www.conradshome.com/zmudmap/
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: i get the first room name right if i do autoconfig. but the rooms i move into get strange names
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: all right. i'll check that out. thanks
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: gah i wish i had that when i set mine up :(
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: should have asked :P
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: i did :P
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: back in 05 though
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: should have asked when i was not afk
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Any ideas how to capture the minimap from Aard into a text file?
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: So there are <MAPSTART> and <MAPEND> tags...
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: #map in tintin++ looks like it could facilitate botting, eh :P
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tundah Tech: is it possible to play aard on a blackberry, and if so, what client?
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why would you wnt to?
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: at meetings :)
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: meetings are boring
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ssh home where you have a proper mudclient running
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you're fired
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but you're like mxit users then
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: get a proper job
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: i work at google, u can't!
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use a telnet/ssh client, then run a command-line client such as tinyfugue or tintin
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: if you work at google, tell them to fix all the outstanding issues with google calendar :P
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: lol i wished i worked there. then i can have nice stuff everyday :)
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humpton Tech: and while you're telling them to do stuff - google checkout in Aus$ would be nice
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2009/04/midpssh-blackberry-ssh-client-tutorial-connect-to-unix-server/
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you don't run a linux/unix box at home to run tf/tt on, you can create an account on a free shell server on teh intarwebs
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: TT TF SUX
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: ok i passed ur feedback on, google fired me!
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Squeeky Kroz Tech: how would you create a trigger to capture the room name from the where command?
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: tags help
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, where
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hawkings Tech: capture the line with your name on it, then get everything after that
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: err, where doesn't display room name...
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hawkings Tech: yeah, it does :)
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: err, it does
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nevermind, i'm too sober for this
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hawkings Tech: go get drunk dagnir :)
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: First, if you're using the where command, and you're trying to capture both area and room, you'll want to have a #T+ on the 'where' command itself, or whatever you're going to use. Then you can do You are in area : (*) for the area name, with a condition of Kroz%s(*)
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i will. dj set tonight
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Squeeky Kroz Tech: i got to "#TRIGGER {where (*)}{#T+ T1 #TRIGGER "T1" {%1} {#ECHO %right(%1,29)};#T- T1} (more or less)
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Squeeky Kroz Tech: what did i do wrong?
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: You're not putting spaces between the }{ :P
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Squeeky Kroz Tech: right, ignore that part - the trigg is right, i just copy-paste like that
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Squeeky Kroz Tech: the trig does create the second trigger which doesn't do anything
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: And uh, you can't do #T+ T1 without it being a defined trigger next. :P
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: anyone able to mud at work and bypass proxies?
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: If you have a shell account somewhere, you can use that to MUD.
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: granted, you'll also be subject to immediate firing without any warnings
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: port 80 is usually open you can use that to connect home and home connects to mud
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: i understand that, but theres also a wireless lan and i setup a guest account on a non work wired computer
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chocolate Milkshake fondly remembers the boss command for old tintin.
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: There is a script for it still on tintin's forum. I've had to use it before.
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: damn whatever happened to you know, working while you were at work
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien winks at Daloran.
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: There's the problem nowadays ... you're expected to be 'at work' all the time anyway :P
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: Because why work when you can pretend to work!
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: So beat the Blackberry and MUD at work!
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purelace Tech: is there a way to prevent your brouser from getting redirected to another site?  Every time I try to vote for aardwolf on topmudsites, I get redirected.
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Anyone here use wintin?
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: is it wintin specific?
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Does anyone know why when i open cygwin and use the cygwin type terminal to do a tail -f aardwolf-ftalk.log it won't run it.
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: It opens the terminal, then immediately closes it.
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no idea. cygwin is weird anyway
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you have the terminal open beforehand?
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I'm not sure, never tried cygwin :)
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and you don't see any output before the closing?
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Nope, blank terminal and then immediate close.
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: cygwin works, but it just doesn't /feel/ right
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Drtoki nods at Seltsimees Dagnir.
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: would (\w+\s+){+} equate to one or more occurrences of a word&space in regex ? 
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Which is your preferred way to do a map capture?
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: any simple way to have regex NOT eat what it matches ?
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: read up on non-greedy matching
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: use parentheses, and assign it to a variable
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: and yeah, pretty easy
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: non greedy only says match as few as possible, I'd like to kee pieces of what I'm matching. but I'll figure it out
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: yeah, that'd be the variables and parentheses
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: you'll still want to understand that, though...so it doesn't give you what you want and "eat" a bunch of other stuff into the variable as well
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jsaacmk Tech: What's a good MUD client for linux? GNOME-mud crashes when I use the bigmap command.
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Tintin++
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jsaacmk Tech: I tried that one, but it won't compile. I guess I will do a little research to see which header and library is needed to make it compile.
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jsaacmk Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: What distro are you running?
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jsaacmk Tech: ubuntu
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Desktop? server?
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jsaacmk Tech: desktop :)
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Just grab it from the package manager.. it'll snag the dependencies it needs.
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: you should be able to get it precompiled... I did that a few months back.
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jsaacmk Tech: hot damn, that's pretty awesome. I searched aptitude on friday for "MUD" and I only found GNOME-mud. I have it now. Thanks a lot, guys!
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: En Pee.
T1/r7/2009-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: is there a   .xyz   function to get at the assembly info of a vb project ?
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Anyone know off hand if XP supports ipv6? Or is that only vista+
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: what's ipv6?
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: next generation network
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: What comes after IPv4.
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: ipv6
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Urwin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_y36fG2Oba0
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: oh this not rivia :)
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: trivia
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: heee. Basically, a rehashing of TCP/IP stuffs.. allows more IPs then the current system will allow, among other improvements I'm not too familiar with. I think its supposed to have significantly less overhead
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ipv6 has been supported for years
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: sorry, just logged on and just saw the line what comes after ipv4 :P
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yes, But XP is also very old.
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ipv6 is years older than xp
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Doesn't mean XP supports it, though.
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Enchant build + 3 person group + unmaxxed pup buil != fast
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: xp supports it, and has since day 1
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: err .. mis
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just because fox news had a story on it recently doesn't make it a recent standard
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I wasn't implying it was a recent standard, abe.
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: knowing little about it isn't a good place to start when discussing it, either ;-)
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: and the patching system significantly elongates an OS's lifespan, as well.  Even if IPv6 were younger than XP, if it was important enough there would've been a service pack for it
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Thats.. debatable.
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for those really old-school, trumpet winsock is available with ipv6 support...so those with win95 can connect directly with 6bone ;-)
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: o lawd... I'll be avoiding that, kthnx =p
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: err, what's 6bone?
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 6bone is an ipv6 network
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorphia Tech: if your running win 95 you should be shot
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I've used ipv6 recreationally since the late 90s
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Urwin quickly flips on his XP desktop screensaver and looks around innocently
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Never had a need for it, abe
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: still isn't a need for it, really
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nah, not really. Though, there are a few usenet providers who are giving free access for the moment to test their ipv6 setups.
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Which, is why I'm poking at it now.
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, that's why my use was recreational...
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can set up a 6-to-4 gateway, doesn't impact your current ipv4 usage, just gives you another address to be known as
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Well, Have it working under Ubuntu currently.. Was just wondering if it would be better to set the tunneling up on the router, or tunneling on the computer.
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which is pretty much what I'll do when work must have ipv6 connectivity (local government entity)
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: at the time I was dabbling heavily, my router was my NetBSD server
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ahhh, I've just got a WRT54GL, running OpenWRT
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: So, anyone subscribe to any good podcasts?
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: would anyone happen to have a log of what the old v2 time looked like?
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalados Tech: any idea where i can look at/download triggers for the aard/mushclient?
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: kalados, there are players with them, and i think even the mush website has some
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalados Tech: yeah i found a couple, im just looking for an auto quaff trigger
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalados Tech: and a 'stay logged on' trigger
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Healing triggers are considered botting, last I heard.
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalados Tech: according to the rules on the site, it lists a quaff trigger as ok
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn shakes his head at Daloran.
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Hrn, Thought they were banned somewhere. My mistake, then
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it's only botting if you go afk with them in some aggie area.. etc etc
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalados Tech: So does anyone know where I could get a simple quaff trigger, and a 'stay online' trigger? I've googled and I only get 4 pages of results of not that lol
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: help triggers mentions a list of typical activities that could be considered botting :D
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: for stay online just make trigger for Your eyes glaze over. that sends command like look
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Try another keyword, Kalados.
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: carriage return on that is better
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: there is a good potion quaffer for mush, but it's not trigger based
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalados Tech: and where would i find that
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: by typing potion quaffer mushclient into google
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalados Tech: found one. Thanks :)
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalados Tech: how would I set mush client so it automatically enters my user/pass on login?
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: game-configure-connecting
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: enter name/password, then select noautoconnect and put %name% and %password% on 2 lines in the text box
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: that's what mine is anyway
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalados Tech: k ill try that, thanks :)
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalados Tech: and it worked, awesome.
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Anyone had any luck with the chrome ports under linux?
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalados Tech: is there anyway to get rid of the prompt window that displays on mush client when it idle disconnects you? its preventing my reconnecter script from logging me back on
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: mush can auto connect for you...
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: so why do you need a reconnector script?
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalados Tech: Had no idea lol, where would i find the reconnect option
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Swalec is looking for drugs in the Goblin Fortress
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: mis chan
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalados Tech: ?
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: really?
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalados Tech: lol *facepalm* got it
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: sorry, missed last message -- you just hit return  -- so long as you have autologin working
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: even without autologin it takes you to username/password stage
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: in cmud i have a trigger that is set to telnet with telnet option 102, would that be right or would it be telnet 100?
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrad Tech: does anyone know if a telnet or program I can connect to aardwolf is available for Blackberry?
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: www.lmgtfy.com/?q=blackberry+telnet+client
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrad Tech: Dagnir, ty. I googled it already.. just curious if theres anyone with experience and suggestions as to a good one
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: is it possiable to have cmud like #echo a telnet sequence so i can see when things are being sent
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: www.lmgtfy.com/?q=good+blackberry+telnet+client :P
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: don't use your blackberry for mudding. it's retarded
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Like with the telnet opts and echoing a tick or something?
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: my spellup script is susposta work if i get a 3, but it randomly stops working till i move sometimes, and i wanted to see why
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: mud like all estonians do, bang two rocks together and hope that the sparks are sending the proper electrical signals to the nearest civilized country
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrad Tech: why is that retarded?
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ever seen a mxit user playing?
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: mhmm. you have a point. even worse :(
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrad Tech: maybe we have a different understanding of what retarded is.. to me, its when a person answers a tech question with, google it... thumbs up buddy
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you asked a question and i answered it
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Komrad Kessel Tech: sometimes it was such a boneheaded question that it's the answer they needed
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Komrad Kessel Tech: not that I have read channel history
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: typing this url was quicker for me than actually googling it myself and then reporting the results
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: step #1 should always be jfgi
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrad Tech: obviously
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so you're going to skip that step and dislike my answer to your googleable question?
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrad Tech: no, i did the step
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrad Tech: i was wondering if anyone knew of a way to do it/ solid program without bugs
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: then you should learn how to properly phrase your questions
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: aard needs a dislike button
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no, you were asking for a blackberry telnet client
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your question wasn't for input on quality of telnet options...you asked if anyone knew of one
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and when most links that you get when googling blackberry ssh or blackberry telnet point to the same product, that's a good indication that it's something you may want to look into
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: abe, you're you're obviously lying since he already googled it and didn't find an answer
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arfwolf Tech: if I made a mysql database containing rooms that are interconnected, is there an efficient algorithm that can be done in either php or directly in mysql, that will tell me how to get from room id A to room id B in the least possible moves?  or would the entire room list have to be extrapolated to a linked list first, as is done in MUD code?
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jsaacmk Tech: Dijkstra's algorithm
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arfwolf Tech: part of the reason I'm asking now is incase it matters whether I made a room tabele and an exit table, or just a room table with north id / east id etc
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: i made separate tables for easier editing
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, the MUD uses Dijkstra's algorithm just fine
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the MUD can calculate from any room to any room in short time
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jsaacmk Tech: just as long as you can extrapolate the "graph" of the room connections, it will work fine
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arfwolf Tech: k well it's good to know the name of the algorithm, but I'm doubting it's efficiency if it's dealing directly with mysql instead of linked lists that are already in memory
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arfwolf Tech: so you extrapolate a graph first?
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jsaacmk Tech: you can extrapolate as you go, you can use a precompiled function and it should be relatively quick
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do some searches on least cost routing & Dijkstra...
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arfwolf Tech: hazaa, thanks for the pointers
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're basically doing what the Internet does to get your packets around
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: Abelinc:  considered harmful
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arfwolf :d now I know where to start.  I like doing the hard work mysql
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arfwolf Tech: errr I meant to say myself, not mysql
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arfwolf Tech: geeek :s
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: the internet doesn't get my packets around - routers do :P
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: and there's a key difference - each router has a good guess on where to send a packet that it gets regardless of the path the packet already travelled :)
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arfwolf Tech: I lost my wireless mouse somewhere in my bed sheets, and I have 4 blankets b/c it's cold here :s
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arfwolf Tech: somebody needs to make a wireless mouse that you can make beep to find it
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: the Djikstra algorithm is very powerful, but it's certainly not related to routing network packets :)
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: umm, not true in the least, TG...the algorithm isn't written specifically to network, but it is used extensively for it
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: for specialised networks - sure. For getting packets from you to the MUD for example - no
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: it's just a path of "least resistance" following ARP tables - throw a packet somewhat in the right direction basically
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on which parts of which networks your packets are travelling through...it won't be used end-to-end because of scalability issues...that we have bgp for
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: even BGP isn't pure
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: in the sense that traffic agreements often will dictate path vs speed
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not sure your definition of 'pure' in this context
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arfwolf Tech: sry for starting the argument, plz mommy and daddy, stop fighting..
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's no argument
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arfwolf :p
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smile at Arfwolf.
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: it's easily seen by tracerouting the same remote IP from the same physical location but different providers
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: they'll take different paths - one may rush directly to the satellite hub while the other may take you to Japan from the UK first before taking you back to France
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: network packets aren't concerned with physical distance, just logical costs
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: exactly, and the definition of "logical cost" is left to your provider. Speed may or may not be a factor here
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: definitely
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: the Djikstra algorithm may be used with a weight of any unit of course - be it speed, cost, convenience, anything
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: but generally one implies getting from A to B using a compromise of "shortest" and "fastest"
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Learn From Einstein Tech: djikstra algorithm? i'm an ORIE major lol ask me about it
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: which is not how it works on the internet, where some providers just use the metric "cheapest" and others use the metric "fastest" - they charge the consumer very differently of course
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right...which is why it's used in ospf and is-is routing protocols...I was contrasting bgp to it, not saying bgp was dijkstra-like ;-)
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: I find internet routing quite entertaining really - from the following incident:
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: I was sitting in Moscow tracerouting a server which was in Moscow, some 20 km from where I was. Guess what? I was routed through France to Frankfurt which sent my packets back to Moscow
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's not uncommon, if the local isp isn't connected to the other local isp, they must go upstream
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: so while it's pretty obvious that two machines are connected in the same city, the packets made a 5000 km path between them
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or if the hotel uses their own network, you'd need to go to central before going out
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: sure Abelinc, I know the why's and the how's - I just find it quite wasteful :)
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: helps to use providers as close to tier 1 as you can
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's less wasteful from the ISP's standpoint, though, than creating full-mesh with everyone and their brother
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: well, you see, in Russia everything is wired together - i.e. all packets have to pass the same set of routers before leaving
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arfwolf Tech: in soviet russia, internet networks you?
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: Russian isn't soviet... I think you're behind your time :) But the networks for "in" and "out" are government-controlled essentially - yes
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: which is way better than China for example
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aterius Tech: how can I import my txt file from zmud settings into cmud when it isn't an XML?
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aterius Tech: And zmud won't let me save aardwolf.mud on my desktop...
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: then you can't
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: you have to first save it to a file, and from within CMud you choose the Import from ZMud menu option from the main File menu
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aterius Tech: But I don't have zmud on this computer just cmud and zmud is on another machine...
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: but will you be happy!?
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: like I said, you have to save to a file first.  From there, you can then at least install zmud to your cmud computer and put the files there so that it can then pull the correct info from it.
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: if you don't save to a file first, you have to do everything by hand.
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aterius Tech: I have a useless text file then 
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aterius Tech: Why can't I just import the text file?  zmud can do that...
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Maybe ... you could import the text file into Zmud, then export it as an XML file from there?
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because zugg sucks :-)
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: you can try, but like I said, the only option is Import from ZMud
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Abelinc, did you just compare Zmud to a Dysan vacuum cleaner -- Zugg must be pleaased -- what character does Zugg play on Aardwolf XD 
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Whoever said the topic that Xyliz is talking about doesn't matter was right :P
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Mis :o
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: zugg does have a character on Aard, but there is no dysan vacuum cleaner :-)
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aterius Tech: What do you guys think is the BEST looking font for widescreen (1680 x 1050) display for Aardwolf
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: helvetica neue
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Wingdings2
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: lol wingdings.
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aterius Tech: Linkage for download?
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I really like my font, but I forgot what it was called.
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Actually, this is probably not THAT font, either, hmm...
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: I like specialized ones, like Espruar (AD&D elvish) or Dethek (AD&D dwarven)
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: but then, I don't have a BFM
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aterius Tech: and I can get those where? :) 
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I like them readable :P
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: dunno, I got them from a CD that WotC/Tor was offering.  I bet you could find them by searching for those keywords.
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: I also liked a font that was, I believe, called scribbles.  It was an old one, though, so not sure it still exists.
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: made everything I typed look like a 5-year-old was writing it :)
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Heh, that's easy to get, just install Alcohol.
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: They probably copied my handwriting.
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: lol, I wonder if they have a font that makes the characters look multi-imaged?
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Can be arranged :D
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: That's a brilliant idea for a font, actually.
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Have each character appear twice, maybe tilted by 10 degrees
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: And supply the straight font as the italic version :P
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: italics looks bad on cheap monitors
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: italic characters get clipped alot at the edges of screen boxes
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: stop setting your screens to overscan
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I've never seen that.
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: TV CRTs hide picture under the edges...computer CRTs don't, unless you play with the geometry
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and LCDs should never
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: look at a zmud button displaying an overlong variable content -- half the first character is often seen and part of the last character -- italics look even worse 
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: italics clipping is often seen on crudely designed webpages
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: sct closed
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aterius Tech: You mean a unicode block font?
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aterius Tech: What does Hotspot do under font properties in c/zmud?
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: uh, there's no Hotspot in font properties in ZMud
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aterius Tech: My numpad 3 in cmud always does the command "SE" even though my macro has "down" placed there...how do I override it?
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: try it with numlock off
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Consider turning off the inbuilt numpad navigation, if there is such an option.
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aterius Tech: I can't find where to turn off the numpad navigation in cmud...
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aterius Tech: I can't find where to turn off the numpad navigation in cmud..
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: CMud uses packages.  It includes common, default packages that are read-only.  Unlike in ZMud, these are not superceded by your own versions of macros.  To use your own macros, you need to remove the default package.
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: the package in question is English Keypad
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aterius Tech: I disable the keypad entry in my mud's package settings (both keypad entries ) but nothing happened
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: you are, apparently working in the wrong package.
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: if you are going to make your own macros for the keypad, open up the package editor
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: next, click on the View menu and make sure there's a check next to Show Default Packages
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: after that, there should be a tab called English Keypad.  Right-click on that tab and select Delete Tab.
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aterius Tech: Got it, thanks for your help friend
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: anyone looking forward to 3D-capable televisions next year?
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: no
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: say what?
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: 3d tv?
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: next year, they are likely to introduce TVs for home use that are capable of projecting content in 3d.
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: after adding an alias, why is mushclient telling me access to aardwolf.mcl was denied?
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: UAC
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: I would assume you're on vista.
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: yeah, I didnt have this problem with xp
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: is it a permission issue?
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Yeah, when you update the aliases, the program has to write to the .mcl file to save it.  You can't do that in the Program Files directory.  You should save the .mcl in your user directory, or run MUSHclient as administrator.
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: with muchclient can you make a trigger use a var as its match string ?
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: anyone using triggers in mushclient ?
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: yes...
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Umm alot of people.
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: with muchclient can you make a trigger use a var as its match string ? if so what is the syntax ?
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: I don't think so .. but I'm also not quite sure what you are asking.
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: if an if statment
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: You could make a script to generate a trigger off of the variable.  It could get a bit messy if you aren't careful about it, though.
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: err use
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Nod, just use an if based on your variable
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: if("@variable" == "<string>") then
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: if (GetVariable("var1") == "string") then
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: I want to be able to set a var to whatever i want and be able to change it on the fly, var=dog  then i want a trigger to match on any string  that has that var  ie.. dog  or whatever...   so can i gave a var in the match line of a trigger ? 
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: I want to be able to set a var to whatever i want and be able to change it on the fly, var=dog  then i want a trigger to match on any string  that has that var  ie.. dog  or whatever...   so can i USE a var in the match line of a trigger ? 
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: AddTrigger( "variabletriger", GetVariable( "varname" ) or "", "command", 1, -1, 0, "", "" )
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: AddAlias("channel=*","SetVariable("channel", "%1") or something like that.
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: AddAlias("channel=*","".. SetVariable("channel", "%1") .."") rather
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Chico, you were right the first time with GetVariable.
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chicomecoatl points excitedly at Yaomiqui!
T1/r7/2009-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Wasn't me, i used @variablename 
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: does the functoin AddTrigger  at the trigger in Muchclient trigger list ?
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: huh?
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: does addtrigger add a trigger? well, what do you think?
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aterius Tech: Skeeball for the iPhone is the great game ever made.
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: canabalt :P
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: anyone know how to turn parsing off via code in cmud?
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: It's easy, but WHY in the world would you want to do that?
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: to set bprompt/prompt with aliases because some of the mud variables don't work through cmud
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: They do if you put a ` in front of the entire line. :P
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Just do `prompt %x\%h blah blah blah.
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: i thought it was a ~
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: ah ok
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: That's for individual characters. ` at the beginning of the line escapes the entire line.
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: ahh okay
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: does this syntax look right ?
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: No.
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: AddTrigger("monster", "* arkmob *", "flee", trigger_flag.Enabled , custom_colour.Custom15, 0, "", "")
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: AddTrigger("monster", "* arkmob *", "flee", trigger_flag.Enabled , custom_colour.Custom15, 0, "", "")
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: darn.. cant gett it to post correctly
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Do @@ for @ symbols.
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: AddTrigger("monster", "* @markmob *", "flee", trigger_flag.Enabled , custom_colour.Custom15, 0, "", "")
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: am i using the Var correctly ?
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus shrugs helplessly.
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Don't ask me. I don't use MUSh.
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I would have AddTrigger("monster", "* "..GetVariable( "markmob" ).." *", "flee", trigger_flag.Enabled , custom_colour.Custom15, 0, "", "")
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: if the function addtrigger works  would it be shown in Muchclient trigger ?  or some file some where ?
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: it should be shown in the trigger list.
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: its not there.... :(
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dizzyworm Tech: hi, in zmud.. is there a way to start capturing to window.. and then stop capturing... like a start and end.. that i want?
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: #CAP Win to start it, #C- to end it.
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dizzyworm Tech: thanks Charn
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods.
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dizzyworm Tech: is there a way to clear a window from command line?
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: what client?
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dizzyworm Tech: not current window.. a seperate window
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Windex usually helps.  Works from command line or GUI.
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dizzyworm Tech: ok... #clr WIN works.. win being the name of the window
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: this is the old pattern ^It is (%n) o'clock (%w), *, (%n){st|nd|rd|th} the Month of (*).
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: mis
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: does someone have a working automap config for zmud they could paste to pastebin or something or even a note? i have the default prompt. i get garbage for room names and can't figure the thing out :)
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: do you have tags on?
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: no
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that's your problem right there
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: oh?
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that's how scripts usually tell the difference between room names and random info
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: my roomname trigger - ^~{rname~}(.*?)( [(]G[)])?( [[][*][*]> PK <[*][*][]])?$
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon boggles at Seltsimees Dagnir.
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what? it's not /that/ ugly
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: You should never have (.*)... surely MUSH has a default "left side" variable?
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i don't use mush
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Whatever client you do use
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: zmud, that's why the regex looks kind of funny
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i wrote a more elegant pattern, but zmud implementation sucks
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but hey, it works
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalados Tech: I have the reconnect option on, but when i get idled out, a prompt pops up saying aardwolf closed the connect, preventing the reconnect from connect, because i have to click the prompt
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalados Tech: how do you get rid of that prompt? mushclient btw
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i don't use mush, but this could help - http://xkcd.com/627/
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalados Tech: lol smart ass, ive done that
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: downloading mush now and trying it out myself
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalados Tech: Yeah, if you get disconnected via idle or internet outage, it brings up a prompt
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: how aboot the 'reconnect on disconnect' button on the connection menu?
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalados Tech: i tried that
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalados Tech: It still brings up a prompt requiring me to click ok
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalados Tech: I enabled autoconnect, left it on last night, got idled out and when i woke up, there was that darn prompt
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ok, uncheck 'notify when connection broken'
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: (i'm using the magic flowchart, btw)
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalados Tech: lol :)
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so you were lying aboot using it already
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalados Tech: using what
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the flowchart i linked=
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalados Tech: I have tried every option, searched through google
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no you haven't
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i just proved it
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalados Tech: the inclient help doesnt even have it
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: settings -> general -> notify blahblah
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it was that easy
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: took me under a minute to find
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalados Tech: what menu is the settings under
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: http://xkcd.com/627/ <- check this out again
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i thought you checked every menu and setting already :\
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalados Tech: Dude, I can't find it. I'm in the world settings page, there is no settings menu
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalados Tech: You've proven your technical superiority over me *bows* Now where did you see it
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: this is a likely global setting, not a world setting
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: well, i can read. that's a perk
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's 2 checkboxes below reconnect on disconnect
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also, i gave you the name of the menu before
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalados Tech: -20
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the flowchart works, btw ;)
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalados Tech: yeah reconnect on disconnect is in the connection menu, I dont see a "settings menu"
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: then use the flowchart to find it
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're looking for settings...also called preferences...
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you're not looking for world ones...you're looking for MUSHclient behavior ones, called global
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalados Tech: I found it, thanks :)
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir tosses Kalados up in the air, he loves it!
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalados Tech: No need to be a jackass dude
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalados Tech: Im appreciative.
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i know. it's a choice
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Get used to it, they feel the need to :)
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the more complicated the problem the less attitude you'll get from us ;)
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the more complicated the problem the less attitude you'll get from us ;)
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalados Tech: dude im deployed, working 18 hour days, gaming on shitty internet on a 8 inch netbook cut the shit alright
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalados Tech: thanks for the help
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: how do you make a sentient bot that can talk and reply to any imm probes?
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Heh, tough on you, but like I said, that doesn't change things one bit.
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You instruct Redryn in the fine art of *beep* writing a legal *beep* script.
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalados Tech: What is the need for that attitude? 
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: It's an addiction for them, I think.
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: well, i tried to help you by giving you the flowchart
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and you lied aboot doing these things already
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so i wasted my time and bandwidth to download, install and check it out myself
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: using the very same flowchart
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalados Tech: Yeah, you showed me. 
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no need to take it personally
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalados Tech: Let me make a flow chart for you, one second.
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir patiently twiddles his thumbs.
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalados Tech: When you deal with shit and assholes all day, the extra attitude puts you over the top. 
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Watch your language.
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalados Tech: Fair enough.
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beckon Tech: it's also a need to feel superior to other people, you get it a lot in these types of forums. don't take it personally
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: everyone here deals with stuff and people every day...you're not special
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien seems to think you have the right idea.
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalados Tech: Oh people die where you work? Your place of work gets blown to bits every couple weeks?
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: if you do that you are likely working with me :P except since I'm walking fields that manure spreaders have been thru it one is rather pungent and the other is nowhere to be seen.
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you chose to enlist
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: unless you run a bar and a massage parlor for lepers with bad attitude. that's special
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalados Tech: Oh for the love of- 
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalados Tech: thanks for the help.
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't bitch about your job. You chose it.
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: right, it's all choices
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: now if you were in the Israeli army, that's another story
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Or the Singapore army, for that matter.
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: sounds like a crappy job, FD
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalados Tech: I aint bitchin about it, i love my job, Its just a little much to deal with the attitude on a game
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: hey keep kirgas stories off tech.
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: No, Spores don't count.
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalados Tech: for something simple
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon pats Trurien on his head.
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: So take a step back and play the game :)
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so take a break from the game if it's giving you more stress
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh no, you weren't connected while you were sleeping!
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalados Tech: Fair enough.
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalados Tech: Real mature abelinc lol
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: You're setting a terrible example.
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalados Tech: Reaaaal mature.
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, you were given the location of the setting, and you're bitching about attitude
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you can always choose to ignore the "insults" and just take the advice. it might work, you know
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Dagnir: I find that works for me.
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalados Tech: yeah lol, like i said, not the best of days
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you were given the location of the setting multiple times, while telling us how you looked at every single setting
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: don't forget the handy flowchart!
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalados Tech: abelinc, back down i dont even know why your in this, my beef was with dagnir, but thanks for the enthusiasm
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you bitched that he cheered when you found the option
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cheering is now a bad thing?
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i have a tshirt with it for wearing when i'm fixing stuff for people :P
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i know i'm not the nicest guy to get advice from, but it fucking works
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oops, mis
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: sorry...
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: how do you exit fullscreen mode in the mush client :p
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: alt f4
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: sure it's not ctrl+alt+delete? :p
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: if its like other windows programs f11
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: /hold/ ctrl+alt+del :P
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: it's not
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Normal keys for toggling fullscreen are CTRL+Enter or Alt+Enter
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: righ mousebutton, and click full screen mode
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: It depends, really.
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: thanks :p
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aterius Tech: sometimes my gohome alias doesn't work but when i type/repeat it again, it does...(it's with a garbage can out of a satchel of sanctity)
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hun Tech: anyone has a level tracker for mush client??
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: dumbarse Americans - MS Office 2007 doesn't even have 'telephone' in the dictionary
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: growl
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Seriously, it doesn't?
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nogs
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: try gullible i bet its not in there
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Heh. Shows up in my dictionary. *ponder*
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emir Icebergovich Tech: is there an efficient way to convert a databse from Microsoft-Access type to SQL?
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: it can certainly be done... i've found results on google before
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: you mean from within a client, or as a VB/C++/etc programmer?
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emir Icebergovich Tech: in whatever way is simplest, but I'll google it
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/237980
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: well, I ask, because referring you to the ZEOSLib stuff isn't going to do you any good if you wanted to do all this within zmud or mush, etc
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: cmud uses the zeoslib component, I think, which forms a wrapper that handles pretty much every database format
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emir Icebergovich Tech: what I want to do is to convert a database made for zMUD... into a CMUD-usable database
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fierre Tech: I thought CMUD had an import feature for that very purpose?
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: what does cmud use? sqlite?
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emir Icebergovich Tech: sqlite 3.0
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emir Icebergovich Tech: I haven't looked that up
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emir Icebergovich Tech: I haven't looked that up
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emir Icebergovich Tech: oops... if it's possible to import
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emir Icebergovich Tech: but I will... good night now :)
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: is iwuvaard.org down for anyone?
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I'm guessing it's down for you, since you are asking.  Therefore, yes.
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: but I can't load it either.
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zefoj Heafmo Tech: same
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Mandy Mandorallen Tech: gaardian.com is down at the moment as well... too many Aard sites hosted with the same flakey provider. ;)
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You ack at Sir Mandy Mandorallen!
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: it's annoying since connect to the database remotely and forgot to allow timeouts
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the database is on a different machine than the web front end
T1/r7/2009-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Mandy Mandorallen Tech: gaardian.com just came back up, so it shouldn't be much longer before iwuvaard.org does the same
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: Intel developing chip that will make keyboards and mice obsolete.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Troll says what?
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: heh
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: doubtful
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: doubtful, why?
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: hard to play counterstrike w/o keyboard and mouse
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: we'll always need an input device. I doubt that can be solved with a chip
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: you will always need a way to input, won't always need devices to do so.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yes you will, Urwin.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: the Intel chip will be brain-based, so you'd be connecting wirelessly with your box
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: that may be so but it's also more years off than any of our lifetimes
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No you wouldn't.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: I already connect wirelessly with my box
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And even so - You would need some sort of device to do that.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: not necessarily, Habasi, but they might decide to sit on the tech for that long
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Conspiracydouche.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Some other people were doing that.  Navigating through Google Earth via a shower cap.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I bet you believe in a 200mpg Carb too.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: we already do it with monkeys, putting electrodes in their brains. but it won't happen with humans any time soon. I promise
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: there are already functioning and installed prototypes
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: I call bullshit
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: there's already a human cyborg among us.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No theres not.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: I don't think it was implanted in his brain, but he's got computer chips embedded in his body that automatically communicates with devices in his home.  Lights that turn on when he walks in, coffee pots that start brewing, computers turning on, etc.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: you'll have to cough up some web addys about now
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: this is the one for the brain chip that Intel is working on http://technovelgy.com/ct/Science-Fiction-News.asp?NewsNum=2665
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: There was a case of that using RDID - But, Any scanners able to read rfid chips from any respectable distance wouldn't be safe for prolonged expoure.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: RFID, rather
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: we have that now, with high end autos,. those devices don't need to be implanted and they're not what you first implied
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: SOUNDS LEGIT BRO. No
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: I don't have a url for the human cyborg, but I know he's living in Britain and was featured on a futuretech sort of show on Discovery.  Might've been something Alan Alda was hosting, but not sure.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: google it and get back to us
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Overactive imagination ftl.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: the human cyborg http://www.kevinwarwick.com/
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: "the human cyborg" sounds kind of like an oxymoron.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: I didn't come up with the phrase
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Lulz... You're confused.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: "living cyborg" sounds much more appropriate.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yeah, Thats not a cyborg, sir.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: oh?  What's a cyborg then?
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I count people with pacemakers as cyborgs.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I suppose Balaam, thats technically true.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: cyborg:  -noun  a person whose physiological functioning is aided by or dependent upon a mechanical or electronic device.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: that might need a bit of refinement, I think.  Calling someone with a pacemaker is kinda like calling someone with a transplanted organ a (frankenstein) monster
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: yet I'm sure most people would point out supposed differences between the two
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: No, it's adhering to the definition of the term.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: while there may eventually be a device that allows us to control things mentally/electronically, the keyboard/mouse is not going away any time soon.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I suppose in the case of a pacemaker you might say its a synthetic organ, something standing in for an organic heart as opposed to something new and different... But, yeah
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: that's true, Big Silicon has a better grip on our livelihoods than Big Oil/Auto does.  Even if they invent it, they'll just sit on it for 50 years until it's practically obsolete
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: of course... the industry driven by "buy this now, it's shiney" will sit on technology for decades.  *nodself*
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: how would i set up a regular expression  to match a sentence or word that ends with ).    example (Meat Locker).   would it look something like this ^* \)\s{0,.}$"
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: err..
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no way
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: so many things wrong with that...
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah. don't even know where to start :\
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: wtf is that?
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: some times the word  looks like (Meat Locker)  and sometimes it looks like (Meat Locker).  i want to triger for either situation....
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I would go with "\)\.\s" and it should match.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: try ^0$
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oops
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: try ^[(].*?[)]$
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no, ^0\.?$
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: I have an idea of what the start expression looks like just need that )  ).  part "the ending"
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no, ^[(].*?[)]\.?$
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: there should be no reason for a "*?" pair.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: using zmud. it's implementation is weird
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Apparently.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir flails his head up and down... you can see the blonde roots.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Athran: What client?
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: if you want to end with a ), wouldn't just be \)$
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: musch 
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Just depends on if you should ignore Dagnir or me.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: i want it to trigger on  ending )  or ).
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: With MUSH, just match "\([\w\s]+\)\.?"
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that looks fine to me
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Sorry... "\([\w\s]+\)\.? "
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i think zmud matched \w as a single letter :P
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: So does MUSHclient.  That's why there is a + later.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: that's what it's supposed to do in regex
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: wait, i confused something
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: oh yeah, http://www.regextester.com/  to test the regex patterns.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nevermind, i'll get another morning coffee
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: http://viktor.juhe.ee/regex.pdf - nice cheat sheet
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: Balaam's example works perfect for my application    Thanks
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: another cheat sheet:  http://www.gammon.com.au/mushclient/regexp.htm 
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Oooo...  that's a pretty sheet Dagnir.  I should print it and hand it out at work so people stop bugging me.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: print this one as well - http://xkcd.com/627/
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: it's on my wall already.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: help......   \)\.?"   worked for ) and ).  but it also seems to pick up the | char  how would i go about match just ) or ).  combination and nothing else ?
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: "\)\.?" matches just those two.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: Congrats on the Gq Balaam....  Oh and i was mistaken....  something else was causing my trigger to fire....  not that | sysmbol    thanks again for the help
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: I finnally found the BUG...    it was something else firing the trigger not the | at the end of the match line...  thanks again Balaam
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: -30
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: A | at the end of a match line may cause wackiness if it is not escaped in a regex.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: the trigger is firing on another match string on the same line... just took a while to realize which string it was...  
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Ah, that would do it.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: ctl-alt-T toggles tracing.  It's good for showing what it being triggered.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: cool.. feature...
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rsi Tech: any mxit users here?
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I hope not
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Drtoki acks!
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Check for words that have been severely shortened.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rsi Tech: not all mxit users type like that.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dizzyworm Tech: i lost all my zmud windows :x anyone know how to find em..
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: in a UNIX shell I need to recursively change the group of each member of the directory tree, any help?
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: chmod -R
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: use the -R flag
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aztar Tech: chown -R :group *
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: chown i mean
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gramdel blushes.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Just a heads up, from Lifehacker: Windows: The last updates from Microsoft have caused a headache for some users. A bug in the update causes certain programs to fail to render properly blacking out the whole screen. A third-party security company has released a fix. -- this affects Windows 7, Vista, and XP.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hurr durr run linux
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: is it possible to set up a trigger for a word and have it color just that word, example  the brown fox jumps high.   right now my trigger colors the entire line and I would like to just color the word fox.   is it a matter of the reg expression match string ?
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SpyWolf Tech: yup
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SpyWolf Tech: what client
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: sorry..  Muschclient
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: #sub {fox} {%ansi(white)fox}
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: I need the match string to trigger on any combination of words that included the Match string example Fox  but just color the word
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: would that #sub {fox} {%ansi(white)fox}  be in the send portion of the trigger ?
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: You just put that on the command line. It creates the trigger for you.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: he's using mush
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Oh. Never mind, then.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slants Tech: where can I get a good 3 moons predict script for mushclient?
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: If anyone who likes maths is bored check it out - http://www.freegamebingo.co.uk/online-bingo-tips/online-bingo-strategy.htm I'm pretty sure it's propaganda, but who knows, perhaps I'm gravely mistaken.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: if it's a "easy way to win in gambling" forget it :P
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: you can't love both maths and bingo
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: people who design gambling/lottery tend to be more clever about it than the players, else they'd not do it :P
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: "the house" always wins. Whatever the outcome :P
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: I'm really not interested in playing bingo. I was more interested in why the maths is incorrect.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: It just amazes me that people will reference supposedly important mathematical analysts to support their outright lies.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: David Hilbert told me you'd say that...
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: I would just be interested to hear anyones opinions on the supposed 'maths' in that article.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: And of course the house always wins, the article doesn't suggest otherwise, but it does imply you can boost your odds of winning.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: It seems to have a few facts thrown in to add to its authenticity.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: for example buying fewer cards, will improve your risk/reward. Seems to make sense to me.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Since if you were to buy 50 cards, 2 or more of those could potentially be winning cards.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: well, a one in a million chance vs a one in two million chance is a sure improvement, but... :P
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: But you'd only ever see the return on 1, since the game is up as soon as bingo is called.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: it doesn't.  It does the opposite.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Like I say, I'm purely interested in the maths....not planning on becoming a pro bingo player any time soon.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: I don't think so Urwin.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Obviously the more cards you have, the greater your chance of winning. But you have to pay a certain amount for each card.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: it does.  With fewer plays, you get fewer chances of actually winning.  However, unlike in roulette, there's no bigger pot for betting on specifics.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: That's just what I said. Fewer chances of winning. But the risk/reward ratio is better.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slants Tech: the odds on winning on any one card remains the same don't matter how many you buy
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: talking of roulette, there's a very stupid piece of "advice" floating around - betting double previous bet on the same colour each time :P
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: You could shove allin every hand in poker and win TONS of hands, but your risk/reward ratio would be rotten.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: you also have to pay for each book, so essentially you're paying for each play
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Yeah, I've seen it. The FOOLPROOF way of making money using the martingale theorem.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: bingo is not roulette, you don't get better rewards for playing more specific numbers
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: and then in size 1 font. So long as you have infinite funds =)
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: it sounds pretty good when you hear it - sooner or later a black will be rolled, and you doubled the previous bet each time so you rip big cash. The thing is, you win the cash you spent MINUS your initial bet :P
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Well, you do slowly build up funds with the martingale strategy. Except eventually you will hit that sick run of 10 blacks and go broke.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: let's say you have infinite funds
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: therefore, the reward is fixed and the cost to play is fixed.  By playing less cards, you decrease your chance of actually winning but at the same time you increase your chances of not missing a winning card.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: you bet 1000 on black. Loss. 2000. Loss. 4000. Loss. 8000. Loss. 16000 - Win
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: Loss: 15000. Win - 16000 minus tax :P
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: eh? we're not talking about bingo anymore?
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: my pre-previous comment is obviously wrong - the maximum you can win is your initial bet - minus tax
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: which is only somewhat better than betting the same amount each time - you'll float around zero - waiting for a streak of 2 or 3 wins in a row and getting the hell out :P
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: gambling is a tax on lack of math knowledge, anyway
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: You can use martingale theory for ages if you have enough funds.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: You will slowly build up money. It takes a long time, but it works.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: However, you cannot escape the fact that each action you make has a negative expected value.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: behold: the wonder of GCSE maths
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: eventually you will lose the lot.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: And I just went to get my dinner, it was mainly me talking about bingo.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: http://www.freegamebingo.co.uk/online-bingo-tips/online-bingo-strategy.htm
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: sometimes.  In other situations, the rate of change is so long that nobody can reasonably be expected to do anything but win even if their luck goes south
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: it's super easy to increase your funds in Blackjack, for example
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: No moreso than roulette. House still has the edge.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: yeah, but the attainment of that edge has a far longer curve in Blackjack.  You essentially can't lose unless the other players at the table sabotage your efforts.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: I would love for some maths buff to read that article and tear it apart
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: what article is that?
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: http://www.freegamebingo.co.uk/online-bingo-tips/online-bingo-strategy.htm
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: the bingo article
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: sorry, it's a bit of a long read
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: I just searched for it this morning out of curiosity.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Since the internet will tell you you can win at pretty much anything.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Anyone familiar with LaTeX and in particular the covington package? I have some issues with feature structures.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: So I decided to search for strategy on a game I consider to be 100% luck.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Lo and behold, I get an entire page on how you can become a better bingo player.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: ......
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: every game follows a "distinct pattern" thats the stupidest statement i've ever read
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: I think possibly the 'pattern' refers to the shape you need to make to call bingo
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: of course it does, and there are 63! possible patterns
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: It is a distinct pattern. First, you select your numbers...
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: for example whether it's the whole card, or a cross
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: it's mainly where it gets into the supposed maths a bit lower down =P
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: every game?  No, but it's pretty obvious that some numbers come up more frequently than others.  I don't think there's a mathematical correlation, so much as having to deal with the air currents generated by the mixer and the tendency of mass (ie, the balls being mixed) at different altitudes to hold their place instead of travelling to other levels.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: quote - Noted mathematical analyst Joseph E Granville, creator of successful stock market strategies used by thousands, has directed the enourmous power of his analytical mind to the game of Bingo.......
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: seems like it is such blatant propaganda to me
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: better quote what he actually developed
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Well yeah......source doesn't acknowledge that.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: right now I'm directing my "brilliant mind toward the game of bingo" by discussing it :P *blink*
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: most of the statements made in this article are worded in a way to make it seem like a "strategy" is in there but it's mostly just very basic statistical concepts.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Exactly, a statement that is not false, but highly misleading.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rau Tech: Granville is probably best known for his bearish market calls during the 1970s, 1980s, and 1990s, when he claimed that the stock market was headed for imminent collapse. His overall track record, according to the Hulbert Financial Digest, is very poor.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: It just sometimes baffles me the crap you find online =/
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: balls 1-75, each ball has same change and yes it is MORE likely to see a ball come out (first draw) with a 1,2,3,4,5 as the second digit... how the hell does that help you prepare your board? the number still has the same random chance as the rest
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rau Tech: His investment seminars were bizarre extravaganzas, sometimes featuring a trained chimpanzee would could play Granville's theme song "The Bagholder's Blues," on piano. He once showed up at an investment seminar dressed as Moses, wearing a crown and carrying tablets. Granville made extravagant claims about his forecasting ability. He said he could predict earthquakes and once claimed to have predicted six of the past seven major world quakes. He was quoted by TIME Magazine as saying "I don't think that I will ever make a serious mistake in the stock market for the rest of my life," and he predicted that he would win the Nobel Prize in economics.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: To be honest, I think that probably sums it up......^^
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: was he that guy claiming to have travelled here from the future?
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: i just love that there are people out there who would read this article and think they're going to be better at bingo then those they play against.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: What's funny is sure, they might actually help, BUT... every other person has read the same thing.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Lol...I'm not sure I love it....I feel pretty bad for the readers who feel they have been the privelaged recipient of profound mathematical insights.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: yah...
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: It's like online multiplayer games. Sure, there are guides out there, but damn it, everyone has read the same guide, and knows all the same tricks you do. :P
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: i love some of the stuff in here though. if you draw a sample of bingo balls they should average to 38 (75balls) or 45.5 (90balls)... wow... somebody passed algebra 1
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Yeah, then it goes on to say only 1 in 10 bingo players know this, so therefore you already have a huge edge over the other players
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: yeah haha
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: so by mathematical "reasoning" 1/10 players didn't graduate high school
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Lol.....they probably dropped out early on to become pro bingo players.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: whats next?  bingo strategy testimonials?
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: I do have something else pretty insane by a supposed university graduate
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: doesn't take much to graduate some universities :)
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Yeah, evidently =D
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Or, that article needs comments at the bottom. "Wow, thanks bingo guide. I employed your strategy and am now living in a 5 story house in the bahamas. I can't believe it! My wife has never been happier"
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: i'm going to write a strategy guide to using a random number generator... how to get 42 every time!
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: a book is ok, but you need a whole system sold on late night tv, maybe a web subscription service
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Just sit there, invoking the power of the ancients, visualising very hard the number 42. If the number does not show, eradicate this happening from your memory. It is a conspiracy. It is what they WANT you to believe.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: oh... i was just going to say take the number generated, divide by that number then add 41...
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: but that works too
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: we could have several strategies
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: omg.....how the hell did you do that? =O
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: I think I have enough info to start my own webpage now
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: Gregor i want some of the proceeds from that website. or i'll sue you.  i'll do it... i'm pretty sure i can convince them the n/n+41 was my idea...
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Don't worry, I'll name you as the renowned mathematical analyst who dedicated his "brilliant mind to controlling RNG's with sheer mental power".
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: actually, most RNGs are biased :)
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ramier peers around himself intently.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Not if you use Velians theorem they aren't =P
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: You ALWAYS get 42 =D
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: ahh Velian's Theorem, you sound like my number theory professor... except he doesn't call me Velian
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: I hope Intel goes ahead with the CPU series with built-in white noise lamps :P
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: rofl
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: only true random number generator
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: one?
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: what's it based on?
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: Urwin - the current flowing through the lamp
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: i can pick numbers at random... (well they'll appear random to you...)
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: I'm guessing a lot are 'so' random that the bias will make little difference.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: Gregor - very wrong
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Ok, I am mainly talking about poker sites now....=P I admit.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: err, how would that be random?  AC's a cyclical wave, isn't it?
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: and by guessing, I mean, I hope so.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: not in a lamp driven by ionization Urwin
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: it's a discharge tube basically
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: For example, supposing the RNG was biased, surely it wouldn't matter so long as it was equally biased to all?
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: certainly would depend on what you are using the rng for... in poker it would favor a certain hand
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: Gregor - a biased RNG matters regardless of bias
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: if it's biased towards certain cards your chances of certain hands changes.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: No, but matter in the context of a card game I mean.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Obviously it is not ideal.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: like, rand()/RAND_MAX is biased towards 0.5
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: if u figure out the bias, you can play to that and that wouldn't be "equal" in bias
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: But if everyone has the same RNG surely it results in fair gaming.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: no Gregor, it doesn't
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Why doesn't it?
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: it results in someone knowing the bias in the RNG winning
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: yep
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Ok, assuming this is not known.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: if i know the game is biased at playing hearts then i'll avoid going for flushes outside of hearts.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MindTorque Tech: bid 495
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: assuming it's not known is the silliest thing possible
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: someone would figure it out.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Well, having only 1 RNG that actually works sounds pretty silly is you ask me.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: there are very few artificial RNGs I haven't worked with - and all have a bias. And I know which has a bias on which side
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: well it's just that there is no "randomness" in the world
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: the white noise lamp is actually a true RNG :P
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: so how can u get true randomness without something that is truly random in the first place.  white noise in a sense is pretty dang good
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: it's truely unpredictable and depends on no seed
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: i'd have to read up on it to see why, but i haven't heard of it.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MindTorque Tech: Timeghost, is that using thermal noise or something else?
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: But....even with your experience, I'm guessing you wouldn't be able to crack a poker RNG (or work out its bias). Or would you?
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: MindTorque - a discharge lamp. The current is your random number
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MindTorque Tech: Cool :)
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: I'm guessing the bias is small enough that you'd need a HUGE sample size.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: again, guessing = hoping.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: Gregor - no one invents a new RNG, they either use a 48-bit or a 64-bit RNG typically, and those are limited in implementations.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: So you are saying you already know the bias just by reading what RNG something uses?
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: How is this bias expressed. You said something has a bias of 0.5. What does this mean?
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: but only because I need good random numbers at work - I need billions of statistically independent samples daily
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: I said the standard rand()/RAND_MAX has a bias towards 0.5
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: are you working on a genome or what?
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Yes, what does that mean?
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: i.e. it SHOULD generate uniform random numbers between 0 and 1
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MindTorque Tech: How does the Mersenne Twister method stack up as random number genreators go?
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: But hits 1 and 0 less often than 0.5?
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: yet if you histogram it over billions of iterations, you'll see a peak around 0.5, not a uniform distribution
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: That sample size is HUGE though....=/
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: MindTorque - it's about the same as drand48
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MindTorque Tech: Ok, thanks :)
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: So, the one thing I don't get in all of this.....
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: and I don't mean cryptography here - just the distribution of random numbers
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Why doesn't everyone just use the current through a lamp for their RNG? =/
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: Gregor - because Intel hasn't released that CPU widely :P
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Why wouldn't they?
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: they probably don't need the precision, anyways
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: And can't anyone set up a lamp with an ammeter?
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snagandorf Tech: is the white noise lamp what random.org uses?
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: apart from popularity problems (not like you need that on your PC for gaming) IIRC there are heat issues and the price tag
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: random.org uses noise from the air i believe.  it's in the website bio
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: "The randomness comes from atmospheric noise, which for many purposes is better than the pseudo-random number algorithms typically used in computer programs"
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: which is also a very cool RNG, Velian
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: that's still not true random, just based on a cyclic occurrance that's essentially beyond comprehension.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: yes indeed
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: my ex-gf thinks that they have a room of monkies banging on keyboards to generate random numbers.  However that would be horribly non-random as studies show monkies are biased towards certain letters/numbers.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MindTorque Tech: Anybody ever use the one utilizing the radioactive source from a smoke detector to generate random numbers?
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MindTorque Tech: http://www.etoan.com/random-number-generation/index.html
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: and they'd type Sheakspeare's Hamlet in 1000 years, so you can predict one sequence!
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: that's derived from the listening preferences of monkeys.  They tend to like the same range/arrangements of sound that humans do.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: it's not 1000 years it's "infinite monkey theorem"
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: hehe
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Seems there must still be pretty tight RNGs though apart from lamp current.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: Gregor - there are, but they're all flawed
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: vaguely pavlovian, even.  If I push a button and it makes my ears hurt, don't push that button!
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snagandorf Tech: can we tap into a specific kilobyte of ram on google.com servers to generate random numbers? that's gotta be changing crazy fast, and noone will know what everyone's searching so we cant figure out what that data will be. i'v alwayse believed that would be random
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: You are certain that every single RNG out there is flawed apart from the current through a lamp?
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: the major flaw is - it's sufficient to know the seed to predict the sequence
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: well they also did a study with monkeys in a room with a keyboard
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: There is no other way of deriving a random number from the universe?
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: and each monkey showed specific bias to a spot on the keyboard or a certain key or something
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MindTorque Tech: Radiation works hehe ;)
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: why do you think the universe is random?
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: they had one case where the monkey just hit the 'a' button
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: it would be random, but the distribution would be "random enough".
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: I didn't say the universe was random.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: err, wouldn't be random
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: Gregor: the flaw is the seeding. All RNGs need a seed. If I guess your initial seed, I get the same sequence of numbers as you. Is that random?
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: So in that case, if current through a lamp, does not need a seed, surely there is some other method of producing a random number which does not require a seed?
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: I suppose you could use the seed to pick randomly?  Even if the seed generates a predictable range of numbers, you'd then have to predict which number would then be selected.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: it's deterministic, not random. White noise is random in comparison - whatever you know about it right now, you can't even start to make a guess about the next second
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: Urwin - you're still deterministic. Any algorithmic RNG is
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: Gregor - you can use any natural event, even the speed of wind in Nigeria
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: For example I see pokerstars uses thermal noise for their RNG
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: it's random enough for all purposes, and the important thing is that the state now has no influence on the state in a second - i.e. it's a true Markov chain
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: It seemed as something natural this would also be random and non-deterministic
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: where does their themal noise come from? Hope it's not the kitchen :P
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: I honestly don't know. They do have this quote on their site however =p "Anyone who considers arithmetic methods of producing random digits is, of course, in a state of sin." - John von Neumann, 1951
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: thermal = heat, so I would assume any noise would be generated by whatever material is getting heated.  Hissing, creaking, groaning, etc.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Depending on your use-case, various ways of getting entropy from the environment are Very Bad because they allow people to inject data into your system.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Forget looking for good answers; just go for cool ones, like lavarand.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: thermal noise is thermal fluctuations
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: which is the Brownian ratchet problem. Which has been proved to be a Maxwell demon about 50 years ago :P
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: it does not exist :)
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: The most common on-the-cheap ways of getting random numbers from physics these days TTBOMK are using reverse-bias junction avalanche noise, and cosmic ray triggers on CCD's.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: and if there is no useful work to be derived from thermal fluctuations, there is no useful information to be derived either
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: it's the situation you always find yourself in when dealing with seized threads.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: I think there's some company actually making prebuilt USB dongles using avalance noise.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Well, apparently everything shows bias apart from current through a lamp.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: regardless of situation, a seized thread will force the rachet to strip the head of the bolt/nut and make it impossible to remove.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: not everything, Gregor - you might want to read Erikson's comments
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Bias isn't the end-all.  It's possible to have something totally unbiased that's completely predictable, as well as to have something highly biased that's unpredictable.  You have to consider what you're trying to do with the entropy.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: I was responding to eriksons comments, and pointing out an apparent, although not necessarily real, contradiction I have noticed in this thread.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: all pseudo-RNGs are crap for serious purposes tho - yes
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: (and note that in practice, it's very rare to actually use physical random numbers directly, due to exhaustion rate issues.  Generally you use them as reseeds of a good PRNG)
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snagandorf Tech: i have a microchip in a 7mm square package with 48 leadless pins(12 to a side) .5mm pitch, any reccomendations about how i would go about building a programming socket for this thing?
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Cheap out; etch a PCB and hold it in place with a clamp.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snagandorf Tech: i'v got a pcb that will fit it on the way, my dad says a clamp will not work for holding it, any reason contact would not be made?
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: if i have a plugin and it uses varibles  how do you initalize them on plugin install so the value is not nil  etc. ?  if there is a command to do that where do you put that command in the plugin  ?
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: actually, Erikson, if you're still here - I have a question for you
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: man, this channel is total tech pr0n today, I love it.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Depends on details of the chip leads etc, whether it will make good enough contact (and on what 'good enough' means for the particular item; tigher timing needs better contact)
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: I'll guess the answer is '742nm'.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Not an Imm Erikson crosses his fingers and hopes.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: I need good Gaussian-distributed random numbers. Currently I use the modified Box-Mueller algorithm doing monkey tricks with drand48_r to get good pairs
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: do you know of something that'll do the job faster?
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: the logarithm is the drain of time
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: I don't, no.  That's more detailed than I poke much into...
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: When it comes to RNG's, I mostly pay (light and occasional, just enough to keep up with where plowed solid ground is) to the CSPRNG side of things.  Simulations's not on my map.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: okies, thanks in any case :) I'll keep digging - there's no good answer in the literature (apart from bit-shifting which reduces precision)
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: can a plugin initalize a var on install so as to not get a nill value error ?
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kuthuman Tech: just redownloaded muchclient, and now all the channels have {chan ch=auction} before them (word auction changes based on channel), how do i remove that?
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: You want to check tags.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you say you redownloaded MUSHclient...so you're using it now, or you reverted to using your normal client?
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kuthuman Tech: just downloaded it after reformatting, used to use it but never saw {chan ch=tech}
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're still using it, then you should check file -> plugins and ensure that the aardwolf_chats plugin is enabled
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you download straight from gammon's site, or from Aard's site?
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Assuming this is the Aardwolf Mushclient, of course.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kuthuman Tech: dl it from aard, and i like the chats to come into my main screen so i turned off the chat box, but never had this problem before when i did the same
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, turning off the chats plugin always would've had that impact...if you leave it enabled, chats still go into the main window
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you wish to leave that plugin totally disabled, then "tags channels" would stop it
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kuthuman Tech: ohhh, ok, thanks abelinc
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kuthuman Tech: i appreciate the help
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-)
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Berkjon Tech: my stats window in my mushclient will not allow me to move it. (the - [] X , is out of sight and i can only change the size of the window and for some reason can't move it.. how can I change this.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right-click the tab for it and select move...then use arrow keys instead of mouse
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Berkjon Tech: ok thank you :)
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: asm question: int 16/21 allow me to do I/O stuff in real mode, should they do the same in protected ? and if not what does in protected ?
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: I have lib functions to do it in protected but I need to know how to do it without them
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: what audio player on linux
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mpg123, splay
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramier Tech: how about flac player thats like foobar2k
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Anyone know a good program to convert avi files to the ipod format?  I know there's google, but I'm really just looking for someone's recommendation on a good one
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: check out handbrake
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Stick it Inicus thanks Blessed Balaam heartily.
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: windows 7 vs xp pro
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: xp, because i'm not paying 200 for 7 :P
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: but if i were buying a new pc, i'd want 7
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Why would you buy 6 extra PCs?
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: heh
T1/r7/2009-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: to multiplay on aard, of course
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aeyore Tech: if I wanted to make an alias to cast web by just saying web how would I do that?
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mowseykin Tech: So you could type just 'web' instead of 'cast web'?
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aeyore Tech: yeah
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mowseykin Tech: help alias
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aeyore Tech: I already tried that I dont get it
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mowseykin Tech: Then alias web cast web
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aeyore Tech: oh I was putting it backwards thanks Mowseykin
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kajak Tech: Anyone know if there are any ANSI escape sequences that don't begin with ESC?
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: they're called escape sequences. wouldn't make any sense if they didn't start with escape, would it?
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dizzyworm Tech: any cmud user? i have a simple q
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dizzyworm Tech: i installed package.. how do i access it
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: installed from the library?
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dizzyworm Tech: yeah
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: view/all settings , then file open the package you downloaded
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dizzyworm Tech: thx :)
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: should be in the  packages directory i believe
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Any wintin user have experience with grepping info from an xml file?
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Invite Tiana Tech: question about zmud?
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: yes?
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eserokele Tech: what does the scroll lock button on the keyboard do?
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Allows you to use your numpad..
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: thought that was num lock?
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xeleine Tech: Likewise.
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: i hope you are trolling?
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eserokele Tech: yea i thought that was num lock
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neleus Tech: has to do with whether the screen scrolls....
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: oh, scroll lock as on a laptop?
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: I misread
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: no, scroll lock as on every keyboard
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: have you looked at yours lately?
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neleus Tech: press it as you boot up, and it will stop on the boot up screen
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: I just avoid it, it crashed my client.
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: crashes*, more than once.
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: scroll lock depends on the app.  In CMud, for example, it jumps you into the scrollback buffer.
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salvanas Tech: there, we now know what it does. it crashes your client. too easy. next problem?
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: In tintin it suspends your session
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eserokele Tech: ok i was just looking at the keyboard and wondered what it did.
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: depends on the app
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: most apps ignore scroll lock
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: it can be a hassle since my spellup macro {f12} is right beside it.
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: I'm more curious about what that mysterious SysRq key does, anyways.
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: some old throwback from early pc's is my guess
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: i've /never/ seen an app use it
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: in linux you can assign alt + scroll lock to issue low level commands, to shut down an unresponsive system
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: it's a great key to bind to something you don't need often, since it's so infrequently used
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: wait, the linux thing is prtscn/sysreq. my bad.
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: they're so close.
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: heh, they're the same key
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: never saw even the ancient dinosaurs with just a sysreq key
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: i used to use scroll lock all the time on my XT, since the console scroll speed was slow enough to catch a page at a time.
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: bah :P in that era I was reading streaming from a USR 28.8 without needing a pause. scrolllock is a bane.
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: i'm pretty sure it was used in some ancient word processor (wordstar?) when changing between edit and compose mode as well.
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: heh. i missed out on most of the BBS days.
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hun Tech: any way we can change the stats windows to return items carried and weight?
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hun Tech: this is for mushclient
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: It would require a bit of work, and it would be a slower process since that info isn't carried in any of the info commands such as statmon, tickinfo etc.
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: But it /could/ be done.
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hun Tech: work as in the scripting or the done by the client?
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Both.
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: they are the same thing
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hun Tech: nods*
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Nah, it would require work on the scripters part, and work by the client to parse and hadnle the info to the correct spots, correctly.
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: you can use the weight command to pull the info out, but you'll have to issue it every time something in your inventory changes
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hun Tech: did search the forums for some tutorials on scripting with mush... anyone has any idiotproof guides for dummies like me?
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Switch away from MUSH \;)
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hun Tech: not zmud smart either...
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: blah, ;)
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Those GUI client are more trouble than they are worth anyways.
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: ZMud and CMud are far friendly to code-dumb people
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: err, friendlier
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hun Tech: does zmud cmud have map?
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Nah, Zugg is just a money whore.
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chicomecoatl nods at Hun.
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Lol hun, shoulda watched for them bandits instead ;)
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hun Tech: damn... got too much attention...
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: someone may or may not share it with you, but from a purely solo stance it has a mapper and Aardwolf happens to be the majority guinea pig when it comes to testing the mapper.
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: so if the mapper can't handle something, it generally means Aardwolf's not doing that thing
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: I think what Urwin is saying, is that the mapper works, but has bugs and flaws that are still being found based on aard's maps.
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: nope
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: I'm saying that any work done on the mapper is first tested against aardplay.
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: Zugg uses Aard as his own personal beta test
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Ahh. First it comes to aard to "run its course" and /if/ it works then it goes live elsewhere, right?
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: essentially.
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Bank that in the anti-zugg arguments.
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, cmud didn't have a mapper that could be considered usable until version 3.x
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: All i need for maps is my #path commands.
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the mapper in c/zmud is extremely powerful, but requires a *TON* of setup and babysitting to use to any big potential
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Actually, pre-3.x mappers were usable, as the used the same interface as zMUD mappers. But it wasn't at an optimal performance.
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: not really
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Alot of which alhena has done and published to her sitte iirc
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, you know that's not true charn
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Uh, I know it's true, since I use it on a daily basis.
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: With over 29k rooms mapped.
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: check your version again :P
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I'm using 3.12 right now. I've used every version since it first came out.
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: I can vouch for his sado-masochism :)
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Have /you/ ever used CMUD or its mapper?
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: exactly, so stop claiming that you're doing something that you're not
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Uh, I'm not claiming I'm doing something I'm not. I'm saying that while the mapper was not at optimum pre 3.x, it was still pretty powerful and very useable.
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I used the same scripts on the mapper today that I was using in 2.x, and even 1.x.
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if powerful and usable means broken, then I agree...and so did you
T1/r7/2009-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Learn From Einstein Tech: cmud mapper has most of the functionality you would ever need for scripting purposes.. room db, optimal speedwalks etc
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: Charneus was one of the very few dedicated beta testers.  If he's not already, he's a good candidate for a guru position.
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: There wasn't anything 'broken' with the mapper. A few bugs, but still very useable. Needed to find a room? Easy lookup. Like I said, it used the same code zMUD used, and was changed to a completely different (sqlite) format in 3.x
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Learn From Einstein Tech: only issue is why no more export/import of individual zones :(
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so then you've lied about it for the last 2 years :-)
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: What have I ever said about the mapper?
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: that was because of a change made way back in the 6.2x version series of zmud
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I've said CMUD was pretty buggy over all.
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: And even that is getting better.
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: Zugg upgraded to ADO at that point, hoping to get some major speed improvements.
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: ADO didn't do much for speed, though. :(
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: when he first upgraded, it did.  He quickly realized that doing everything else eroded all that gain
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Now I'll admit that my memory isn't great, so I may have had a disparaging remark for CMUD mapper, but never claimed it was useless or broken, as I use it constantly. :\
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: there was too much overhead from the ADO library that MS made you load even if you weren't using most of it.
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: The only real problem I've ever had (which has been fixed with the rname tags) was creating new rooms.
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: and deleting :p
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, that wasn't your tune in 1 or 2, or when 3 came out and the proclamations of finally a usable mapper came out
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: What did I ever say about it, then?
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not as useful as zmud mapper, broken, buggy
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: the 2.37 mapper is literally the zmud mapper.  The only reason it works is because Zugg plugged off the major AV-creating problems.
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: You keep logs of everything. Show me a specific statement, because I don't remember that at all. I've never had any trouble with the CMUD mapper at all. CMUD, yeah, but not the mapper part, aside from a few bugs being present. If it was said during one of those bugs, then it obviously has been fixed.
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods at Urwin.
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: it was particularly funny compacting my new SQLite map, though
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I think some people did have trouble with the conversion. I was one of the ones who didn't, luckily.
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: it didn't work all that well with other games, honestly.
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Hehe. I don't play other games, so I wouldn't know about that.
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: still, that issue is rather moot given the ability to override the autodetection with #TAG
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods.
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I use #TAG with the rname tags. :) Works wonders.
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: It was hell doing mapping, even in zMUD, when it couldn't autodetect that well.
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: I tag everything.  Aard description formats don't play nice with the mapper, which screws everything else up
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: plus, I'm doing so much other stuff to those lines I might as well make sure the map does it right
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: What problems are you having with descriptions? Mine catches everything.
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: I was having issues with not all the rooms were being detected.
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Do you have brief set to new rooms only? :P
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: like, for example, it wouldn't capture all the paragraphs at recall, but it worked flawlessly in rooms that had just one paragraph.
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: nope, I was always on brief 0
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: another variation of the problem came in the form of rooms that had no description.  If I could get it to recognize descriptions, it wouldn't match rooms that had no description.
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Sounds like, for whatever reason, it's not wanting to match your exits properly.
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: these were past problems.  Tags make it all easy mode.
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods.
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: But seems like it's not catching it for some reason, because I have no problems with exits and multiparagraph descriptions.
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CryForNoOne Tech: any idea why i see  {stats}95/73,148/114,138/109,111/73,149/114,151/88,100,32,100,171,275,You are Standing.,9999,3022/3022,677/2109,2311/2311,5314102,6221,3,2500,613,103,5 every time after my prompt?
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CryForNoOne Tech: something to do with fact that it should display some info in some other smaller window?
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: yep. do you have a stats window?
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CryForNoOne Tech: no i only have main window
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CryForNoOne Tech: but i installed mush client other day and it seems to do it after that.... this is in zmud
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: just turn tags off while you're in zmud
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CryForNoOne Tech: how?
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: help tags. tags off
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CryForNoOne Tech: haha ... easy as that? tyvm:)
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: np's, glad I could help 
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CryForNoOne Tech: it was pretty annoying i was on the edge of the cliff:)
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: of course another option is to install scripts that use those tags to help display info better :-)
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fiendish & danj have some nice scripts for zmud using tags
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CryForNoOne Tech: i find it harder to follow when i have so many diff windows... i didn't like it on mush
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I need a browser that stays on top, gimme ideas ?
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: like i said on gossip, just get an app that makes the window always on top
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are some UI utilities that let you make anything a floating window
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: asm: the  &  in a declaration says 'use the following thing's value' correct ? can I apply that to a register as well ?
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Anybody tried the Office 2010 Beta?
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why is everything so utterly rubbish these days?
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: cuz if they built for quality the market would suffer
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why are companies so rubbish?
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrad Tech: the market runs off of consumerism.... If they build a fridge that lasted 40 years... that wouldnt make much sense
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrad Tech: its better to make somthing last 6 months, and make it appear necessary or valuable so you pay more
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well, at this rate, unless they sort out the games i -have- paid for, i'll make sure i pirate every game i want in the future
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrad Tech: like an apple laptop, theres nothing in there worth 2,000
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrad Tech: its already out of date
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrad Tech: but people buy them
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrad Tech: companies are rubbish because they really have no integrity, there prime motivator is profits... not customers, thus.... rubbish
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: just means i won't buy anything
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i certainly won't be buying anything from STEAM anymore
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Is there a DOS equivalent of tail? If so, what is it?
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: lol those dos commands suck
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: at least the xp command shell sucked
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: help <command> couldn't be more uninformative
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: there isn't... but there is WinXS which gives you unix commands in windows
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: downloadn WinXS ftw
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Well i downloaded cygwin when i got tintin, but when i try to run a tail on my chats through it, it opens the terminal, then closes it right away.
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: thats because you didn't download WinXS
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i won't ever be buying another laptop, either
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you'd have to be mad to buy a laptop these days
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: why so
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: cos they do less than a desktop and last exactly 13 months
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: 13 months?
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yup
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's how long they're designed to last
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: what laptops are you buying :p
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 7 months for the battery
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: any, sneak
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Funny, I was just thinking I could use a new laptop, to replace the one that's about 13 _years_ old...
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: my MacBook Pro's battery lasts longer than that
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalados Tech: yeah my pros lasted me a solid 18 months and going strong
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if you get longer out of them, then you're riding the lucky end of the bell curve
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalados Tech: my macbook even has the matSHITa drive in it
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kuthuman Tech: haha, try bringing your desktop to a meeting
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kuthuman Tech: and i had my last one for 2 yeard, still works
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why would you want one at a meeting?
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MindTorque Tech: Heh... I've got a Toshiba one that's still happy after 12 years
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 12yrs ago, laptops were made to last longer
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: modern laptops are designed to just about see out their warranty
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: My Toshiba is 6, also doing very well. Never have seen as clear a screen. Inexpensive too.
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MindTorque Tech: Got a Thinkpad that came out about the same time as XP too, amazingly even the battery is still happy on that one heh
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: all nice, but irrelevant, new laptops are designed to just outlast their warranty
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: So buy an old one on eBay
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalados Tech: (matshita is the name of the drive lol)
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nope, just won't buy one at all
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: I have 4 laptops :(
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: most people who buy laptops don't need one anyway
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i fit into that category
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: maybe if governments force manufacturers to include 5yr warranties as standard, i would consider it
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MindTorque Tech: If the government gets involved they'll either become unavailable or cost as much as a house heh
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: good
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: then we won't need to fill up the landfills with mountains of 13months old tat then
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagfib Tech: a formfactor would be nice =/
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i actually have a 11yr old laptop, which is retired and failing
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: proves they -can- make them to last, and could at a marketable value
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they should be made to do so again
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: you weren't using it properly
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why?
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: duh because it lasted
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyway, the laptop boycott starts here, as does the "paying for downloads"
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: welcome to 1999
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: .          Jilted looks around and whistles innocently.
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not really, different reasons
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: laptops have the distinct advantage of being consumable AND portable. Cheap desktops are difficult to get into my backpack, and to repurpose/recycle... whereas I get a new notebook every year or so and simply find a starving college student or missionary to give the old one to. Its all good.
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrad Tech: Flat: Agreed, except i'm every 2 years
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrad Tech: and Laptops pretty much offer everything a desktop can.... except maybe dual 512 video, but if you need that you probably dont leave you house anyways
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagfib Tech: i render all my aardwolf text in 3d ... thats why i need it
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrad Tech: wow
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrad Tech: whois me and tell me what i look like
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: laptops offer practically no 3d graphics ability, limited processing power, and limited storage space
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lyrad -)
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: thats not true Tiger
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snagandorf Tech: i have dual 512 vidio, dunno why i need it other than my immitation of the count "two two video cards ha ha ha ha"
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: you can get JUST as much power in a laptop as you can a desktop, it just costs more
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrad Tech: tiger: my M51 has Nvid 512, 2GHZ core 2 dual, 4 gb ram, video out, wifi, sounds like a desktop
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Or you can get a lightweight laptop and a heavy desktop and RD to it.
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aterius Tech: I haven't figured out (maybe there is but I haven't heard of it) why there hasn't been a portable graphics card that laptop users can plug in to usb or something like that
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: bandwidth :P
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: aterius: google DisplayLink
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagfib Tech: bandwidth
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrad Tech: usb speed way to slow
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagfib Tech: no way you're going to pump that much gfx through usb
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrad Tech: maybe raid tho?
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: esata might have close the the bandwidth
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snagandorf Tech: i'v heard of a technique for using multiple graphics cards for encryption craking
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagfib Tech: makes sense, crapton of transistors in a gpu
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrad Tech: I dont know why people need so much anyways if there not gamers.... I shoulda bought an eeepc, all i do is mud, email, surf, skype, facebook
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrad Tech: maybe write an essay or 2
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aterius Tech: or the laptop simply has a connection to its motherboard, almost like an external pci/pci-e slot
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrad Tech: lol... bought my techy self wanted 512 vid, and a load of ram :-p
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: because eeepc's are crap
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrad Tech: but my techy self*
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you take any netbook and stick an antivirus program on it and it practically dies
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrad Tech: crap for what? last time I used one it sent an email ok
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and i guess they're fine if you have childrens hands and built in magnifying glasses in your eyes
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and don't need to do any form of typing at all
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snagandorf Tech: i usta use my nintendo ds to mud
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrad Tech: tiger, maybe you shouldnt be against laptops... sounds like you have issues with demand for processing power.... Maybe if you had Linux or a Mac, you wouldnt have to run so many programs to keep it running good
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nope, think you'll find the issue is with laptops :-)
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nowoo Tech: So I have a ton of text following my prompt beginning with {stats} when using the flash client AFTER I downloaded and used the recommended Mush client. Any idea how to turn off this stuff temporarly?
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrad Tech: kape just checking... i'll never go back to a desktop myself
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: tags off should take care of statmon and teh channel flags that yo're probably getting as well
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: tags off
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: as it is, i'm intending getting a 26" tft for xmas
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nowoo Tech: thanks :)
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrad Tech: why dont your get a 42# Plasma?
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagfib Tech: i'm planning on getting my eyeballs replaced with hdmi ports
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagfib Tech: they say its risky ... but i think its worth it
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snagandorf Tech: i'v got most of the parts, and am thinking of building my own surface multitouch over christmass break
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Odd conicidence that I get this message right then - You feel almost blind at the loss of your magical sight.
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrad Tech: lol, start with 1 and see if you like it
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagfib Tech: yaeh thats true ... if it doesn't work out at worst i have a halloween costume for the rest of my life ...
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagfib Tech: especially if i get my lower left leg replaced with an optical sensor so i never have to use my mouse again ...
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: For those who care, via Lifehacker: Google today launched a new, free DNS servicecalled Google Public DNSaimed at making your web browsing experience even faster.
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sirene Tech: So why can't I use blackberry  chat while I'm on the phone?
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: are you on 3g network?
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: edge and so disconnect data on phonecall
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sirene Tech: Edge network
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sirene Tech: Well that's the reason then
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sirene Tech: I don't think this old work bb does 3g
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nowoo Tech: can you use if/then statements with color in your prompt setup? IF hps less than 80%, make color white less than 60% yellow etc?
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: not without scripting it in a client
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Nowoo ( k thanks
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: anyone know why #forall @ExitsList {#sub {"[Move: <send href='"%i"'>"%i"</send>]"}} in cmud only displays the last one in the @exitslist var?
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: because you executed a #sub in a #forall.  You #subbed the line each time the #forall iterated.
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: you should put together the line you want to sub by concatenating a temporary variable.
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: #forall @ExitsList {$local=%i}~;#sub {"["Move: <send href='$local'>$local</send>"]"} gives the same output
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: of course.  You didn't do any concatenation.  You just did simple variable assignment X times.
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: Urwin is right
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i have not really explored anything like that yet for cmud -.- ... o well now is a better time then ever
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: seriously?   is about as important as making a trigger, you can barely do anything without having to concat data
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: thats not really true either
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: normally when i have to concat i get help, like 80-90% of my scripts dont use it
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: theres no reason to concat in this instance either I dont think
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: he could use psub instead, yeah
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: the trick to psub, though, is to start on the right and move left with your operations.  psub changes the position of the 7 8... variables, but the variables themselves don't change their position and you end up with overlap and smear.
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: well i just tryed to use concat on my own and spammed the heck outa my cmud -.-
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: err, that was supposed to be x1...x99...weird that it got parsed into 7 8 like that.
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: ya i noticed cmud likes to parse things even in the middle of a sentance
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: you can fix that by using the backtick at the start of the command line
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Nah. You need to escape it with a ` at the beginning of the line to do -. ;)
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: or just turn off parsing
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: Hadar hold on I wrote it for you
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: #FORALL @Exitslist {#MXP "[Move: "<send href=%i>%i</send>"]"}
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: first, mxp command is the same as sub
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: You can use m to color the output as you want
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: again, mxp is identical to sub
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: You can use %ansi to color the output as you want
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: Urwin, it works, who cares what its identical to?
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: it does work
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: I know it does.
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: interesting.  That was your original script, minus the mxp/sub switch.
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: you complained that it wasn't working.
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: the original was not
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: MXP isnt like SUB
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: its like SHOW
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: except it allows MXP commands ala <send in it
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dizzyworm Tech: anyone know a site i could get a statmon reporter for zmud plz?
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: just build your own.  It's a pretty simple process, perfect for a novice to spend time learning zscript on.
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Holliday Tech: or batch scripting
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Holliday Tech: anyone a VBscript person?
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miphut Tech: Hello, I have a question about MUSHclient and adding another window to show global quest information.  I got it Aard_Onoitsu2.zip file from http://www.gammon.com.au/files/mushclient/Aardwolf/ I am wondering if someone know how to use the Aardwolf_GQuest_SeparateLUA.mxl file.
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: put it into the plugins folder, go to file -> plugins and install it
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miphut Tech: I did that.  It is telling me to create a new world file and I cannot seem to create it without an address.
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 0.0.0.0
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: 127.0.0.0?
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did that zipfile have a .mcl file in it?
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's a world file
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: There's no place like 127.0.0.1
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all 0s is the normal way to create a dummy world file...you're not trying to actually connect to localhost
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miphut Tech: Thanks.
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miphut Tech: Thank you Abelinc, Fatesdagger, and Gregor.
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: I was just joking around =/
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: I once had a T-shirt that said that.
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Holliday Tech: Anyone able to answer a VB question or two - dealing with I/O (functions are done, just dealing with I/O now)
T1/r7/2009-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: got nothing on vb doc, sorry
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darghoff Tech: I'm using mush client and every room has "coords".  How do I disable this?
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: it's a tag
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: try help tags
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darghoff Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rozhea Tech: how do i change the colour of my backround from black to white?
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: anyone know what's a good substitute wire for extending molex cables?  the UL AWM style-1007 wires are hard to find
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HalTaffin Tech: Rozhea: If you are using MUSHclient, ALT+6 will let you change your colours. (Also on the menu: Game->Configure->ANSI Colours)
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HalTaffin Tech: Otherwise you would have to look it up for your client. I think background colour is only a client-side option.
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rozhea Tech: ah there we go thanx:)
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HalTaffin Tech: Glad it worked :)
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abergard Tech: how can i make miniwindow in mushclient?
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: why is it when i do #te 18685 into mud my map wont autolocate to that room id ?
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: it sets the map location, it's not equivalent to goto
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: i used to add #te to end of area sw alias and it would take me to that zone
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: now its not responding...
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: if you're in room 1, but the map shows room 7, #te sets the map to show the proper room
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: seems like that is what its suposed to do.. but  anytime try to update the location  as i move from zone to zone it dont set just does nothing :p
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: i had to reload maps... before that worked ok now not, something with config ?
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: give me a minute I'll get you the syntax you need 
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: ok
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silvara Tech: I actively use #TE to update my location from zone to zone after using RUNTO. Syntax is: #TE roomnumber "zone name"
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silvara Tech: Note that said zone name must be in double quotes, unlike the brackets used in most other areas.
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silvara Tech: I believe that in theory it should move you to room 7 when asked if room 7 is a unique id across all areas.
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abergard Tech: How to make Miniwindow in Mushclient?
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silvara Tech: I've no idea. I saw you ask earlier though. Perhaps downloading the 'official' client which seems to be a customised MUSHClient would give you some intel?
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: nah
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: the one on aard's site doesn't support mini-windows, need the newer version of mush
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silvara Tech: Ahh. No idea then. Figured a guessed answer was better than none though.
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Happydog Madcatz Tech: There's tutorials on the MUSHclient website.
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Happydog Madcatz Tech: They're actually not that bad.
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Happydog Madcatz Tech: Making miniwindows, that is.
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: question is, what has Word 2007 done with the effing ruler?
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: I hade word 07. I miss my stock M$ layout of file view tools etc etc
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: hate*
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: all these idiotified buttons and pictures drive me bonkers
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Is 2007 the one with the office symbol in the corner instead of a file menu?
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: yes ! :(
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei goes, "Heh."
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Took me 10 minutes to figure out how to print :P
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Well, besides hitting cntrl+p
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: i am also a hater of teh new "ribbon" menu
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: you are expecting logic and intelligent design from microsoft? Hello, hasn't all the windows versions crushed that out of you already?
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: luckily if you remember the hotkeys or whatever the proper name is, from older versions you can get stuff done
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ahh, it's pathetic, i'll write it out by hand
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: wow, I wouldn't go that far. I'll go find an older version of word before doing it by hand
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: partly our useless police force for not making it an editable form
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Office assistant FTW!
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: what are you trying to do?
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Gotta love that paperclip.
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silvara Tech: Wordpad. As advanced as I need.
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what do you mean what am i trying to do? fill in a form
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: I have to say i don't miss that damned paperclip
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: try open office, it's the pwn
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: open office is dire
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: it works for everything
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: what's your gripe with OO ?
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: dire?
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Tigernuts:  On the view screen, there's a checkbox to show/hide the ruler.
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: found that, leinei, in the end, it didn't help me
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: OO has significant compatibility issues
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm sure it's fine if all you're doing is creating new documents
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I've only used OO for spreadsheets -- works OK for ones that I make myself, but it can't handle a good portion of excel macros.
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: sigmasheet ftw
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silvara Tech: Only compatability errors I've ever seen were relating to proprietry gear that MS hadn't picked up from an existing standard and instead bashed together themselves.
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no, silvara, going the other way is the issue
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: m$ doesn't have any problems opening it's own format documents
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: except in access, which is dire
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silvara Tech: Access is what I was thinking of actually.
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well m$ access versions are not compatible with each other, for a start
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silvara Tech: Access versions of any number are barely compatable with themselves.
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so questioning compatibility based on MS Access is kinda silly
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not barely, aren't at all
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silvara Tech: There we go then. This just in! Water is wet.
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: Office 2007 is nice, just a shame they released it before they finished it
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silvara Tech: It's sad that we can say the same thing about most MS products.
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silvara Tech: By which I'm not trying to pick on the company either. A lot of MS products seem to be rushed and unfinished. Not purely MS either, but they seem to do it more than not.
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: word, excel, and powerpoint were the only three they finished
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the rest will be done and released with office 2010
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Has outlook actually changed in the past, oh...10 years?
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: not really
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silvara Tech: Cosmetics or function? :p
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silvara Tech: cMUD 3.12 - I'm having difficulty storing strings in an array using any form of colour. Has anyone experimented with this before?
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: they come out with the excape charachter, i noticed that myself but its not a big deal imho
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silvara Tech: I don't follow.
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You're wanting to store the string "@Cmonkey" in an array, for example?
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i always have trouble with coloured monkies, too
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: im taking it they are trying to store something from [0;30;40mfoo
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: im taking it they are trying to store something from %ansi(color)foo
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silvara Tech: Actually I'm trying to store a string in the array including m tweaking. When I get the value again instead of parsing the m it outputs it as straight text.
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: and getting the escape code in the string
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silvara Tech: Close, Hadar.
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doomcaster Tech: what are you guys trying to do?
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silvara Tech: This is my very first attempt doing much of anything with arrays in either zMUD or cMUD, so I could be trying to bash the square peg into the round hole with a dead fish for all I know.
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: clog the muds arteries with escape characters 
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doomcaster Tech: ahh sounds interesting ...BYE!
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silvara Tech: Hah. Actually, none of this sees the MUD.
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silvara Tech: Trigger picks up some info from the MUD, stores it in an array. Array is read by a stat window and reports things to me in turn.
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silvara Tech: I pay more attention to a red flag than a green one, so I'm trying to add some colour to it. Red if I need to do something about it, green if I don't.
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: just color it based on what it is?
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silvara Tech: Currently I'm just storing the string including client formatting in a variable. I want to add some extra info to it though and don't want a ton of extra variables, so I thought to convert them to arrays.
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: take the xml code from that trigger and post it on pastebin so i can see it
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silvara Tech: I thought of that also. Adds a ton of #IFs to the mix. It'd work, but it's not terribly efficient.
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silvara Tech: Hang about. Lemmie try and work that out..
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: so is creating an alias for each area in a speedwalk/portal script a good way to do it, or is there a better way
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: well might consider using a db and a system like aardwolf's runto
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: different people prefer different methods...some people will create a single "sw" alias, then do "sw foo" to have sw figure out what to do/where to go
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: some have an alias/macro per area...or multiple aliases/macros per area
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how smart you have it is up to you...use a from-recall speedwalk for a CR, use a from-amulet speedwalk normally, and a portal speedwalk when you're high enough level to use the portal...
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: i have no clue how to do any of that.. like i said, i don't program
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what client do you use? probably best for you to just search for a script that does this stuff already then
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: mushclient.. any I've looked for a plugin and can't find one that does what i need
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Well, then. Emerald clan has a nice set of speedwalks to areas on their web site, if you don't want to set something up for yourself.
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: might want to try this one...http://www.gammon.com.au/mushclient/plugins/Swalec/Swalec_srun_plugin.html
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: is there a good link to the Swalec srun plugin documentation? The one in the plugin header is broken.
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not sure what you mean...most of the documentation is on the page I just quoted
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: for that plugin, could I set an alias to replace srun with #?
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure, set the alias to send to execute instead of send to world
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: ooo, good idea
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: of course it's a good idea...if you leave it as send to world, it'll send srun to Aard instead of doing anything with it ;-)
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Oh yes, I see it, thanks.
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: ooo, good idqr
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: oops mis
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: New joke up on the joke board anyone on here should appreciate
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: greetings. can anyone help me setup up a very simple trigger in mushclient? can never get them to work...
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: what should it do?
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: anyone has some ideas how i could create mud maps like the ones on emerald clan site out of rooms and links in an sql database ?
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: use cmud
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: anyone else ?
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Use Alhena's mudmapper.
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: cMud can do what you want.  Altho Im not even really sure what your saying.
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: As far as sql links, that's gonna be a bit more difficult.
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hawkings Tech: you want an sql room database effectively?
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: are you looking for a program to use, or are you looking for tips on how to write your own?
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: i have a tip:  wait
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: tips how to write my own that converts rooms from sql to an image for other people to read
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: Wait for Zugg to build the converter, then convert back to the old zmud format and use zmapper to convert it to a gif.
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: ok thanks :) was really hoping to make one myself though
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: you're far more likely to get better help by visiting some programming forum where they aren't so dedicated other things like playing a text game or chatting up with friends, frienemies, and people you can't stand.
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: but the problem with converting back to old zmud format is i dont have coordinates for my rooms in database, if i had then i wouldnt really have any problems in the first place
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: well i thought it was worth asking anyways :)
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: i think you can draw 200 maps almost by hand faster than it will take to create that program :) thus, hand-drawn them hehe
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: with hand-drawing i mean using a software like visio, where you can keep adding boxes, put a room name in them, and link between boxes, with those links remaining valid when you move boxes around
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: but if something changes or new areas come i would have to redo them :P
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: you'd have to redo them either way.
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: but with my way i just have to type 1 command for it because the program would already exist
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: it's not really all that likely for an arbitrary existing area to retain its same layout
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Uh, most of them do, Urwin.
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: i agree duck :) go for it! it will be useful for the areas that aren't mapped yet
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: argh! was sending messages to ft :P only started using this channel today
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: If you see Dashiell comforts Stomp.
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: If you see Dashiell stomps a puddle and splashes mud all over Stomp!
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Stomp stomps a puddle in anger and splashes mud everywhere!
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Stomp beams a smile at If you see Dashiell.
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KissMe I'm Chloe Tech: does anyone have/know of a good mac client 
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: VS/NP++ really need to add expand/collapse funtionality for asm :(
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: Should I learn Java or C++? What can they do?
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: You should learn C++. But to get started on that path, learn Java first, it is a bit more accessible.
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: learn python instead (heavely biased opinion)
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Stanford has an exceptional online intro Java course.
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: HSSSSSSS SSSSSSSSSSSS
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: i know python
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: If you see Dashiell comforts Felt.
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: ...
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Wow, Felt is about to shoot himself with a shiny Gunblade. Should you stop them?
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: If you see Dashiell hands Felt some ICE for his BURN!
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: i know monty python.. does that help?
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: wait til Bigus Dickus hears about this
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: But don't get lost and forget about C++, the world rests on it.
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: help, help, i'm being oppressed!
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: It's a flesh wound!
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: you've got no arms left
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: Oh. I am a terrible suicide bomber.
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: What do you call a successful suicide bomber?
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eserokele Tech: what?
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Achmed!
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}If you see Dashiell Tech: Mohammed Hamburger
T1/r7/2009-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eserokele Tech: lol.
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eserokele Tech: how can i tell what version of mush i have i can't remember it.
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: help about
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: just like 99% of all windows apps
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: can somebody help me get spellup script for mushclient mud!
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: it's on the aard site, like i said before.
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: go to play aardwolf, download, find the link to the plugin page
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drooler Tech: 20
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drooler Tech: Would someone who has taken the time to update their aardwolf mushclient installation with the new version and the new plugin versions be willing to zip up their directory? I would be willing to host the file on my website/make a wiki link if so.
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: is there any way to make ctrl r  copy the last thing i typed in mush?
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: rather than copying last thing i typed or last macro i used?
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eserokele Tech: do i have to unistall the mushclient 4.33 before i install the mushclient 4.43?
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eserokele Tech: or will it just update it?
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: mnotable to find it?
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: m notable to find it?
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: m not able to find it?
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: What is a good choice of software to open .dvi (book) on Windows?
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: searched google for .dvi reader yet?
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I was looking for someone who had used one.
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: don't suppose anyone knows why firefox doesn't display special characters properly
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: encoding?
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: what sort of characters are you talking about?
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: &nbsp and &pound
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: doesn't appear to be an encoding issue]
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: do they have semicolons after them?
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: is the page using the same encoding it's declaring? is it declaring one?
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: tried setting the page to different ones, but no joy
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: is the page private, or can you share it with us?
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: of course not if you try random ones
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: save it as utf-8 and declare it
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the odd thing is it displays fine on ie8
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: that's not odd. IE often ignores problems, since it doesn't actually care about standards.
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ie8 is supposed to be quite strict about standards
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, they even broke their own sites :P
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: oh...
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i take it this it what you wanted to know
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: >
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: with " in the right place
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: why don't you just use #?
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: content="text/html(semicolon) charset=utf-8"
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but is the file saved in utf-8?
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: because that doesn't display properly on ie7 and safari
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you sure you're not using your own weird locale?
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: font mappings :S
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yup
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: without getting access to the server i can't tell you how it's saved
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you can edit the file?
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not right now i cant
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so you can't be sure it really is utf-8
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's what the decleration in the page source says
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: we're talking about file format here, not text in the file.
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: i think
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why would that matter
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ansi document declared as utf8 doesn't make it utf8
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and the special characters will not be displayed as they should
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also, semicolons could work
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: in this mordern age they should scrap it all and just have a single encoding for stuff like webpages and common doctypes
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: good luck convincing everyone to use one standard, let alone agree on one
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yup. we do have it - utf8
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: easiest solution is an entry page that says "you require ie8 or safari to view this page - if you use firefox, install a proper browser instead"
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emir Icebergovich Tech: any CMUD 3 users who have used databases in it?
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: so, we heard you were a mac user, so we only put one pedal in your car
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buzby Tech: Looking for a client based mush  ... spell up for non me characters.  :)
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if I have a doc file, how can I export all lines from it, containing a given string?
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: copy-paste to notepad++ and write a regex pattern to catch the stuff you need
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: Regex pattern where, in zmud ?
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no, in notepad++
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you just need the plain text, right?
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I have a log and I wanna extract the says, smirks, etc
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: well, then regex find+replace nuke any line that doesn't match your pattern
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I'll download it
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: if you put it in plaintext, you can just use grep :P
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: assuming he has a shell account
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I'm on XP :(
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, or cygwin installed
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: well, or cygwin
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: cygwin is ...weirrd
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: doesn't feel right
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: nods, which is why i deleted windows and now use linux
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: couldn't stop using shell commands
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but $cat file.txt | egrep blah > output.txt would work fine
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i can't give up on windows on my work rig. remote shell compensates tho
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: So I can remove everything, that doesn't contain a string of words?
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: With uhm.. Notepad++
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I see replace only :(
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you can replace everything that doesn't match with nothing
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: or i could grep it in my shell for you
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: will try to find where this function is, replace looks like normal numpad a bit
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ctrl+h
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: well yah but it asks me to find something, then replace with something else
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I want to find lines containing says/smirks/etc, then delete everything else
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so you search for lines that don't contain them and replace them with nothing
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you can also search from files
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: gives you the output, don't have to replace with anything
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but it would be way easier with a shell
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: Well I don't know how to tell it to search from something, that is not what's in the Find box
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: let me show you. sec
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: No it's okay will google it, if not will just replace them myself
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: anyone tried out the keyless keyboard before? http://www.keybowl.com/
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: that looks...  odd.
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: the concept's neat, though.  A combination keyboard, mouse, and gaming controller
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sherwood Tech: Okay techies. When downloading MUSHclient 4.43, (which I seem to have downloaded without any aardwolf plugins... anyone know where to get the basic Aard Plugins? (ie, minimap, chat, bigmap, statusbar... ect)?
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: the gammon site has the plugins
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sherwood Tech: awsome. now I just have to find them.. lol :)
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sherwood Tech: thank you.
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sherwood Tech: Ack. okay anyone have a direct link to some part of the Gammon page that's a little more user friendly? (was looking for hyperlink plugins to get these basics)
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: http://www.mushclient.com/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbtopic_id=108
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sherwood Tech: very cool thank you inicus
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Stick it Inicus holds his thumb up at nothing in particular.
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sherwood Tech: wow okay I'm slightly retarded... seems I can't find what I need.
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sherwood Tech: (is not exactly "tech Savy"
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: What exactly are you trying to find
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Count Cagliostro Tech: install aardmush, then 4.43 = new mush + plugins :)
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Stick it Inicus rapidly nods twice at Count Cagliostro, in complete agreement.
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: or install 4.44, since it's all new and obsessed with fours.
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Count Cagliostro goes ooOOooOOoo at Blessed Balaam.
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: palindromic version numbers are always win!
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Palindromes are always win!
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: a toyota!
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sherwood Tech: lol. okay so basicly just install whats on the site, and then install the new version and it will automaticly upgrade.
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sherwood Tech: ?
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Madam, I'm Adam!
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: it won't upgrade your plugins
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Count Cagliostro Tech: more like it won't delete the plugins..
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sherwood Tech: (do I see monty python refrences here?) Okay lemm give it a shot. (if I remain retarded in the process, I'll bug you guys with more questions.
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: "Naomi, sex at noon taxes", I moan.
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sherwood Tech: lol thanks for putting up with me.)
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sherwood Tech: ah. quite smart you's are. :)
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sherwood Tech: thank you
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Does anyone know what video format can play on an xbox 360 prior to the fall 07 update?
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: I tried google, but could only find information about the update itself
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: knowing Microsoft, it's probably proprietary to Xboxes
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why woudln't it be?
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sherwood Tech: okay once again I'm inept. trying to load an Inventory miniwindow plugig, however recieving a "error parsing script" note... any thoughts?
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sherwood Tech: plugin rather
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sherwood Tech: (seeing as how I have no idea what "parsing" is.
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: It is an attempt to parse something.
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: What version are you on right now?
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sherwood Tech: understood. however I also don't know what a "parse" is. (I'm version 4.43 now.) (thanks to previous advice)
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: hrm.  That should be fine for the version.  What plugin?
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sherwood Tech: it's a plugin to create a miniwindow for inventory that I've found on the gammon website.
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sherwood Tech: the link is......
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sherwood Tech: http://code.google.com/p/aardinvwin/downloads/list
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sherwood Tech: (found a link to that page rather, from the gammon web site)
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: oh, that one has some weirdness I found.  I can't remember what it was.
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sherwood Tech: okay so maybe I'm not completely retarded :) 
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: It's something that comes up rarely, and I don't remember what triggered it.
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sherwood Tech: what's that the parsing error?
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: It means that the script engine can't make sense of a line.
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sherwood Tech: ahh. (and it's probably something completely lost in the 8million lines of script that exists, and finding it will take eons.? )lol
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: did it report a line number?
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sherwood Tech: lemme see... 
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sherwood Tech: lessee... 321
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: holon sec.
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sherwood Tech: k :)
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: looks like something to do with the database, but I haven't poked with that.  You can note Blainer, though.  His plugin, and he's good with fixing up issues.
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sherwood Tech: hey thank you so much for your time on the issue.
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kandiis Tech: can I call anyone of you? I am trying out my asterisk server. For US and canada only
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sherwood Tech: wait so you mean you can call someone using aard?
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sherwood Tech: (is a wannabe techie)
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: ya, i use cmud to control skype
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sherwood Tech: (tech..y... tek-ie
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kandiis Tech: No.
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sherwood Tech: wow I'm totally in over my head. lots of info overload.
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sherwood Tech: props to you guys for having the knowledge.
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sherwood gallantly tips his hat.
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i need to figure out how to use cmud to send sms to my phone -.-
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: That's simple enough.
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Use the lua sockets library to email yourself an sms
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Uses the same script I use to email notes to me. ;)
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i did not memorize the entire manual -.-
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods at Blessed Balaam.
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Or use CDO. ;)
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: one problem charn i dont have a copy of that script anyways :P
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: ima shoot windows, i set dis defrag to run every monday, and it always tells me the last time it ran a defrag was weeks ago and next time it will do one again is never -.-
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: sound normal to me
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: anyone using Iyethar EQ plugin ?
T1/r7/2009-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: I'm not sure of the syntax, but look for a CONCAT() function or operator
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: if i have a variable for say stats wisdom and i wanted to add 10 to that stat every time the trigger fired  how would i be able to do that ?
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: depends on the client
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: mush
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: no clue
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: SetVariable("Wis",GetVariable(Wis) + 10)
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: GetVariable("Wis") rather
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: how about SetVariable("Wis, %2)   ?  its a trigger
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: but you just want to add 10, no?
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: the value of %2  from the trigger then add 10 to it
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: oh
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: thought you meant add 10 to the variable
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: then yeah, SetVariable("Wis", + 10)
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: then yeah, SetVariable("Wis", + 10)
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: then yeah, SetVariable("Wis",%2 + 10)
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Myrmidon Myrkul :P
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: let me try that out
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: %2=100   SetVariable ("total", "%2 +10")  when i print out @total it spits out a string 100 +10
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: no quotes around %2 + 10
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: it's not evaluating that way
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: SetVariable ("total", tonumber("%2")+10)
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: Success  !!  thanks..   
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: Thanks again Myrkul and Rathik
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: heh well i was wrong :P
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: in a trigger does send_to="12"  act as if you typed it in on the command line and hit enter ?
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Is that the send to execute one?
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: If so, yes. If not, no.
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: send to 12 is script but i want my trigger to send a command to the mud as if i typed it
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Use Execute("my command here") in your script
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just make a trigger, have it send to world, then copy it & paste into notepad
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: hmmmmmmmmmm  Execute  i've used that before....   let me try it again..
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that way you can figure out what number to use for any of them
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or use Send_to_world
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: ... WOW i've been beating myself up with this thing for hours..  i was using Send " " instead of  Execute     hehehee   Thanks 
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dizzyworm Tech: any reporter for levels.. doubles.. qp etc available for cmud plz?
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: anyone on thats IT/hardware literate?
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Best to just ask the question :)
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Faulty Bot Elrast :P
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: ok - i got a DC powersupply that i'm changing the cable connection to.  There's a ferrite bead on the existing cable - wondering if it can be shifted
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: its one of those laptop type thingies
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon goes, "Hmmmm."
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: See, from your first question I thought you were going to ask about motherboards or something :P
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: heh :P
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Not really sure, sorry.
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: i'm pretty sure the clamp on ferrite can be moved, just wanted confirmation before i start butchering the HW :D
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: np, thanks
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Butchering hardware is fun.
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon took apart a PC PSU one time... around age 15...
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: still here, so you clearly didn't touch the HV section :D
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: I took the whole thing apart. :P
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: And cut open the capacitors.
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: why? :P
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: I still remember Googling to try to find out what the gooey stuff was inside them ;)
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: because daddy wouldn't let her have a pony!
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: rofl
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Simple exploratory curiosity :)
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: the gooey stuff is where the magic smoke lives
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalados Tech: what about gooey stuff inside ponies?
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apprentice Oladon noddles in total agreement at Faulty Bot Elrast.
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dizzyworm Tech: anyone know why my statsmon and automap screen keeps going to login screen?
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dizzyworm Tech: anyone good with cmud and the library?
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I don't think cmud cares what building you use it in.
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dizzyworm Tech: um... sorry i spaced out there
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dizzyworm Tech: when i type campaign check .. the info seems gagged
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dizzyworm Tech: i search for anything that could be doing that but i cant find any
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: was there a tag option to wrap whois info, or description info?
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: if i have a trigger to load %2 as a number var then i do SetVariable ("total","%2") , the value of total is showing total -1   anyone encounter that same problem ?
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: uh, wouldn't that be sending %2 as a string?
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: well it seems to do the math but his always the value ninus 1
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: whats the math function yer using
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: well i dumbed it down to just setting the varible SetVariable ("total","%2") and the value of total is always -1 of %2
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: not sure the client syntax, sorry
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: has anyone installed windows 7 for a media centre yet?
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: had a little muck around with it on a box i'm going to use for a HTPC (eventually)
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: nods, setting up my htpc now
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: my list of WIP projects is pretty long
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: it's pretty good, h264 decode without messing with codec packs
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: but i still prefer coreAVC
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: i'm still trying to convince the mrs that a computer in the living room isn't that scary.
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: last time i looked at coreavc they didnt have a windows version out
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: well, they do now. coreplayer also, and it's great for low-spec'd builds, but doesn't have ac3 decode yet
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: move the computer out of the living room and stream the data in
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: sweet, i heard that the code is quite efficient
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: well, the xbox is still doing a wonderful job (XBMC), but it cannot handle anything HD
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Faulty Bot Elrast nods.
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: i've silenced my htpc, now i can't tell if the formatting is working :P
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: love it :D
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Faulty Bot Elrast :D no fans atm
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: wow, all passive... uh, how hot is the ambient?
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: oh wait, you're not in summer are you?
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: expecting no more than +15 over ambient
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: no
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: well, yes actually, its heading in summer
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: oh wait, you're from aus too.
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: got a big tower heatsink over CPU and a smaller one over the chipset
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Loony Lachdanan nods.
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: which brand?
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: asus or abit
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: cant remember
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: np's. most of my experience with big passive coolers is with zalman
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: or were you asking about the cooler?
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: yeah, cooler
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: its a mini ninja
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: oh, hawt!
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Faulty Bot Elrast :D
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: which cpu/chipset?
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: dual core athlon
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: still installing windows, can't check cpu type atm
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: amd have that 95W quad core was almost tempted with
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: undervolted the cpu to around 1.1v iirc
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: will prolly go i7 eventually
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: yeah, pretty capable of anything you throw at it. my laptop's 2ghz turionX2 can handle anything i need
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: wtb software that uses multiple cores efficiently :(
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: haven't had much luck undervolting most of my chips
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: its luck of the draw... bios
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: www.silentpcreview.com :D
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: for all your undervolting and silencing needs
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: my issue is the lack of silentgraphics cards
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: nah, they're around too
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: you can get custom passive heatsinks for most gfx cards
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nah they're not, not in any decent power
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: define decent
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: GT260 and above
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: i got a 260, was gonna get a 3rd party heatsink for it
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: i think you might find some ati 5 series cards that could survive passive
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: going to the red team and getting one of the lower power cards :D
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Faulty Bot Elrast nods at Loony Lachdanan.
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Loony Lachdanan winks at Faulty Bot Elrast.
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: experience of even pre-silenced commercial cards is that they cook themselves permanently under load
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: looking at a 80w ish TDP card
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: gotta do it yourself - making sure there isn't too much goop, and get your airflow right
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: with proper ventilation, passive gfx still tend to cook
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: i got a diy case, so airflow isn't a problem for me :)
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so unless you pretty much bolt a case fan right next to it
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and if you do that, why bother with a passive card in the first place?
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: noise
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: just as noisy, only way to do it is ahve some custom heatpipes made
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: put a 600-800 rpm large diameter fan
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: and manage the heatflow properly
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: i agree that if you're trying to passively (ie natural convection only) a 100W+ gfx card, you're pretty much doomed
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: tigernuts: are you talking about nvidia passive cards? because the nvidia process heat weakness is well known, look at all the laptop chipset failures
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: thats because laptops and high power graphics don't mix
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: but i've had other cards run ~100c for years with no problems
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: no, it's because nvidia stuffed up their dielectric
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: laptops are generally prone to heat issues, nvidia or not
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: you'd think they could manage leakage currents by now :(
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you'd think they'd design laptops properly these days, but they don't
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: cheap crap to appease the chavvy masses
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: they do design them properly. it's just that people want massive power draw chips in their tiny laptops
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: more money in making cheap crap that fails quickly
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: true that
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: can be expensive though - like MS and the Xbox360
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: lift rock
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: sigh
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: yeah i dunno who screwed that one up, xbox was awesome
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: yeah. i hate taht darned rock
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: hopefully the xbox 420 will be better :P
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: esp. when the rock mob is in the room and it's like "i can't do that dave"
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: even simple things they don't include like use-replaceable dc sockets, user-cleanable vents
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Loony Lachdanan snickers softly.
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: hinges that can be maintained
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: the maintenance techs gotta be paid to do something
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why would you pay someone more than half the price of the laptop to repair it when it shouldnt be going wrong in the firstplace?
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: people repair laptops?
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: because most people treat it like its indestructible
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well done for noticing the point, yaomiqui
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: when its far from it
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they could be far more hardwearing than they currently are
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: with little or no extra cost
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: i thought people just threw them in the garbage :P
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's all deliberate bad design choices on part of the manufacturers
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: tehy WANT them to break
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: pretty much
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: no, it's simple ecomonics. cheap part vs expensive part * 1 million units
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nothing pretty mucha bout it, totally true
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: or you pay $$$$ for ruggedised versions
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: we make more money by selling you crap
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well suit yourselves, i'm not buying it
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: .... still formatting :X
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: then don't. the beauty of capitalism is if you don't like someone's product, you don't buy it.
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: how long does it take for a 1tb drive?
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: you aren't doing a quick format?
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: o.O
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: didnt give me a choice
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: who didn't give you a choice?
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: yeah they really start pushing the crap around christmas time... who has time to research products when shopping for gifts? :P
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: clicked new partion and it just started
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: windows 7 install
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: ugh. pre-partion ftw! gtg, it's smeepy time
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: it's been fun
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: nods, should have done that
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: waves
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: So, why would windows updates fail to install?
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: does cmud use != as not equal?
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murgatroyd Tech: Is the minimap already displaying max tiles?
T1/r7/2009-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murgatroyd Tech: in MUSHclient rather
T1/r7/2009-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: what do you mean by displaying max tiles?
T1/r7/2009-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: it does display everthing that the map show.
T1/r7/2009-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murgatroyd Tech: thanks :)
T1/r7/2009-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juchas Tech: is there anyone here, who can translate zmud scripts into mush ones?
T1/r7/2009-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Worach Tech: anybody know how to move a window in the mush client if the top bar is 'missing'?
T1/r7/2009-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: how do I get mushclient to keep the last command so I can enter it again for repeat spellcasting?
T1/r7/2009-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: it's in the prefs
T1/r7/2009-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: where? I've been using this for two hours
T1/r7/2009-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: my guess is you didn't look, input, commands, auto-repeat commands :)
T1/r7/2009-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: way too many configs here...must have missed it somehow
T1/r7/2009-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yaomiqui nods.
T1/r7/2009-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: way too many configs here...must have missed it somehow
T1/r7/2009-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: heh
T1/r7/2009-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sret Tech: what mud client is the best?
T1/r7/2009-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: depends if you want ease of use (which are many) or easy of making it do what you want
T1/r7/2009-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: mushclient/gmud are nice for ease of use and tinyfugue is nice for hacking it into place
T1/r7/2009-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: tintin's also popular, i never tried it though
T1/r7/2009-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: and zmud's another ease of use one, but it costs money
T1/r7/2009-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sret Tech: cool. I've used gnome-mud for a while, not that impressive.
T1/r7/2009-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: yeah, kinda lacked features when i used it too
T1/r7/2009-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: have you checked sourceforge or freshmeat for x mud clients?
T1/r7/2009-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sret Tech: yes, especially the awesome wiki
T1/r7/2009-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: gmud is ok for basic aliases/triggers but it can't handle variables
T1/r7/2009-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sret Tech: just wanted to know some more
T1/r7/2009-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sret Tech: thx
T1/r7/2009-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: what'e the chmode for rwxr-xr-w?
T1/r7/2009-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: google
T1/r7/2009-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: cool
T1/r7/2009-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: 0755
T1/r7/2009-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: oh the w at the end, that something like sticky?
T1/r7/2009-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: actually it doesn't exist...you typoed
T1/r7/2009-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: 755
T1/r7/2009-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: duh
T1/r7/2009-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salvanas Tech: can someone confirm if gmail is down atm, or is it my connection?
T1/r7/2009-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: just your connection :)
T1/r7/2009-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xeleine Tech: It's you.
T1/r7/2009-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: my gmail's up
T1/r7/2009-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: so is mine
T1/r7/2009-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salvanas Tech: cool, thanks
T1/r7/2009-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: so is min
T1/r7/2009-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Next time, use http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
T1/r7/2009-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salvanas Tech: nvm, back up now
T1/r7/2009-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Anyone know where i can find drivers for a innoTv dv-smart-tvp tv card?
T1/r7/2009-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You.       Dashiell Tech: Try driverguide.com
T1/r7/2009-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: ty
T1/r7/2009-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Lol... already been there apparently
T1/r7/2009-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twyst Tech: anyone on?
T1/r7/2009-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Besides the other 388 people? No.
T1/r7/2009-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Type "count" to see how many players are logged in.
T1/r7/2009-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twyst Tech: sorry should have been more specific, anyone on tech lol
T1/r7/2009-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus snickers with Blessed Balaam about their shared secret.
T1/r7/2009-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twyst Tech: can anyone help me with Mushclient?
T1/r7/2009-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Do you want someone on this channel who can help with MUSHclient, or just someone in general?
T1/r7/2009-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twyst Tech: I was messing with the stats window and seem to have broken the sharp.tracker
T1/r7/2009-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twyst Tech: i figured this would be the place to ask
T1/r7/2009-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twyst Tech: if anyone knows what this mean (Run-time error
T1/r7/2009-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: means your script's broke
T1/r7/2009-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twyst Tech: yeah copy paste messed up, specifically -- [string "Trigger: "]:17: attempt to concatenate global 'stversion' (a nil value)
T1/r7/2009-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iyethar Tech: What error message do you get if you try to use a non-golden chaos portal during a gquest?
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Who told me bout the driver place earlier?... 
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HalTaffin Tech: 20:24:59 {chan ch=tech}Dashiell Tech: Try driverguide.com
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir acks!
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Salvanas peers intently at Seltsimees Dagnir.
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Thanks! forgot bout history
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: got a question for W7 updates... is there a mechanism for sharing updates to multiple computers?
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: i dont want to use the bandwidth 3x to update 3 comps
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: active directory
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: is it something i can learn to use from googling alone?
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: probably
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: k thanks
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: anyone got opinions on W7's system image recovery?
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no idea. you can use any tested and working hdd imaging program tho
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Beware image recovery.  I have repressed some imagery I do NOT want recovered.
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: heh
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: i got IFW, just wondering if the W7 is easier to use (and is actually safe?), since its integrated into the OS
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: the few sites i've been to claim its the best thing since slice bread :S
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: sliced*
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: toast is the best thing since sliced bread.
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: it may be the best thing since toast.
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I didn't have to recover anything off of my W7 install yet, thankfully.
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: hopefully i wont have to either
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: "just in case
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm a fan of clean installs myself
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I like quick and dirty installs ;)
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: i was thinking of putting in all the patches and freezing an image
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: just drop the image back on if something goes wrong
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: i never really had to find out what happens though... since all the timestamps and whatnots could get screwy
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: this is eerie... booting up my mediapc and the only thing i can hear is the HDD seek :D
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: first really important task in W7... GTFO UAC
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhAt Ninja Wereturtle Tech: I have a really stupid problem with mushclient, hoping someone can save my dumb ass... I dragged the main window far into the corner and now can't reach the title bar to drag it back, and can't figure out any other way to reposition it
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: right click on the taskbar and choose move?
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhAt Ninja Wereturtle Tech: Im getting the move icon to pop up but it won't actually move the window... hrmm
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhAt Ninja Wereturtle Tech: lol, even quiting and restarting the program doesn't fix it, windows stay in same place... I know when I finally figure out how to fix this Im going to feel even stupider than I do now
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KissMe I'm Chloe Tech: shoulda got a mac
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hmm. You could swear KissMe I'm Chloe has been here just a second ago. You wonder where she went ...
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Worach Tech: do 'cascade' it resets EVERY window but thats how i fixed it when that happend to me
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhAt Ninja Wereturtle Tech: ah, sweet, that's workable, thank you :)
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Worach Tech: np:)
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Umm... I once told iTunes to start connecting to the US iTunes. How do I make it start connecting to my local iTunes (Sweden) again=
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: iTunes Store, that is
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yramrag Tech: testing
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: tasting
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you can test on gt/echo, btw ;)
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraal Tech: Daliah?
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: when discussing gas laws they list constants like 8.314(15) why the number in the parenthesis?
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: it repeats ?
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: probably a measurement conversion, like imperial to metric
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: oh hmm, how simple
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: may 8.314 * 10^15?
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: its not 10^15
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: 8.314151515151515
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: I think duckbat has it, didn't think about that
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: used to seeing the overbar
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Don't think that's it, though...
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salvanas Tech: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_constant
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salvanas Tech: uncertainty in the last 2 digits, standard deviation.
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_constant
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: The two digits in parentheses are the uncertainty (standard deviation) in the last two digits of the value. The relative uncertainty is 1.8 W 10-6.
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: ah ive seen repeatable numbers written like this dno sorry then
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: I guess, for my 3 significant digit calculations for my class, its meaningless to worry about those, but they confused the hell out of me for a second :)
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: want to finish my American Political Thought paper?
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lundfu laughs out loud.
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: yes, your thesis is "oxymoronic"
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: MS, as an exercise in futility, display overbar-numbers in this tech channel without using brackets or dots
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chocolate Milkshake Tech: and your conclusion should mention that opinion is derived from demagoguery and you can find all the relevant content on rush limbaugh's radio show
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: hahaha. yeah. it's more centered around locke, hobbes, jefferson, madison and the ideas behind the structure of government
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: is the paper required to be a whitewash or a suckup to American government to get decent marks
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: nope. just basically a compare and contrast. locke vs. hobbes. madison vs. jefferson
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: not hard just so damn boring
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: it's more fun to listen to daliah's retarded views than work on this paper
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: hrm, the philosophy of Tigr and Hobbes 
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elysias Tech: you take that back. she is a special and unique flower.
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: you mean Calvin and Hobbes?
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: yeah... something like that.
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: yeah, was there a Tigr in there 
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: hobbes was the tiger
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: calvin's the kid
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You.       Dashiell Tech: So if you're an idiot, yes, there is a Tigr in there.
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: It amuses me, Xyliz being caught on camera at a Walmart: http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/?p=7417
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: am i at ther door greeting the customers ?
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: View the pic, Xyliz, and you'd see.
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/?p=7450
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: this one's pretty good too
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: This is my all-time favorite... http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/?p=4665
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: wtf
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus grins evilly at Lundfu.
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Though this runs a close second: http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/?p=6714
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: charneus. i think i just vomitted a little on my keyboard
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: prolly a hairball
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: i see you back tits and raise you http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/?p=6961
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus grins evilly at Lundfu.
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: '*your
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: that is a horridly programmed walmart webpage -- are you respomsible for that, Charneus 
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I vomit a little every time he talks on spouse channel
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Yes, Xyliz, I'm responsible for the PeopleOfWalmart webpage. *roll*
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: that walmart webpage even supplies advice: "If you think or know you are already implanted with a chip from a vaccination, flu shot, dentist, surgeon (knowingly or unknowingly through their pharmaceutical supplies) then you can cause them to malfunction within 2 days with rare earth magnets you can buy that are cheap!"  
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nasif Tech: any Theoritical Computer Science here?
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: theoretically
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Nasif grins evilly at Urwin.
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nasif Tech: how can i turn a subject and grade requirement of a specific course into a computer science problem considering a student may want to change his/her course
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nasif Tech: basically i 
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nasif Tech: basically i want to give the student a list of options based on his/her grades a course where he/she can transfer to. 
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: anyone know anything about hd camcorders...which ones are good..which features i need to look for?
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: my sister wants one for christmas and trying to do research
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyleron Tech: There's camcorderinfo.com...
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyleron Tech: Like dpreview.com, but for camcorders :)
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: thanks checking it out
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyleron Tech: Sure.  I used it to research my camcorder; no regrets.  I'd have waited longer, but I had twins on the way so kinda needed it right away :P
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: did you get a dual screen?
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: yeah thats why my sister wants it
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: minus the twin part just single baby
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyleron Tech: Hehe...  lucky her; she may survive the first few months of newborn-ness.
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: heh i think she will have plenty of help
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: both my family and her husbands family are going nuts
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Driak Tech: Could someone help me with an alias problem?
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not without knowing the problem
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Apply more fix.
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: The core of the alias needs to be stripped out and replaced with a new alias. If this alias fails to work, then you need a completely new alias alias that will run you about $500,000.
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Driak Tech: Okay, here's what I'm doing.  I have a three-letter alias for all spells/skills that follow a set of rules.  So I always remember what the alias is.  One happens to be 'sel' to cast a spell, with an optional variable.
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Driak Tech: Basically, I want the alias to only enter if there is nothing followed by it, or a space and an argument.
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: client?
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Driak Tech: But not if it's followed by another letter or number.
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Driak Tech: Yeah.
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what client?
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: I'm not only a client, I'm a sheep
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Driak Tech: As it is, "sel*" will still enter the alias if I type "sell horrible rap CD".  I could put "sel *", but I don't want to type a space after every alias.
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Driak Tech: It's the Aardwolf MUSH client.
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so if you type "sel", it'll do it, or if you type "sel something" it'll do it, but if you type "select", it won't
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Driak Tech: Right.  :)
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can either do it as 2 aliases "sel" and "sel *", or can use a single alias, make it a regexp
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Driak Tech: I don't know how regular expressions work.  Is it easy?  o.o
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: put it as "sel( .*?)?" should do it
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Driak Tech: Oh.  Let me try that.  :)
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err actually make that "^sel( .*?)?"
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Driak Tech: Okies.  :)
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: crap, one last time, hafta anchor it on both sides..."^sel( .*?)?$"
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Driak Tech: "Sell mask" still inputs the alias.  :(
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Driak Tech: Maybe I should just make two for everything.
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you said you wanted sel something to trip it
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Driak Tech: But not "sell mask".  Just "sel Abelinc".
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oops, yeah, did you do the very last version, with the $?
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Driak Tech: Oh.  Whoops.  That one must not have copied.
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Driak Tech: Yay.  You're a genius.
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Driak Tech: Thanks.  :)
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-)
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Don't feed into his ego, please. :P
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Driak Tech: -Covertly hands Abelinc a beer-
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You babble about how great you are. You begin to sound like Kiljare!
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: anyone know how to make variables for alias in MUSHClient? i.e. k <target> would turn into c sleep <target>
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: easy enough to do mudside
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: "k *" for the alias and "c sleep %1" as the send
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: alias k c sleep
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: the answer can be found at this link  Targeting Alias http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ke8k2Gi2XZ4&NR=1
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbtopic_id=120 <-- the Getting Started section of the forums.  It contains the link Athran just posted.
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: ok i'll try those ideas. thanks guys
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: the youtube video spells it out... plain as day
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: so does this simple image: http://www.gammon.com.au/images/gs3/gs33.gif
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: but Nick made a LOT of useful information in the videos.
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: got to Love that Guy.....
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: need help...my ipod won't synch to my library after i rebuilt it on a different external drive
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: haha?
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I did that and had to redo the authentication thing.
T1/r7/2009-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: hrmm...
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: it doesn't give me any messages
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: APPLE JUICE
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: FOR HALF PRICE!
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jandarian Tech: "aardworlf.mcl" denied?? Trying it on Win7..added to WFW already. What is this?
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: APPLE JUICE! FOR HALF PRICE!
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it is UAC getting in the way...
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right-click, run as admin
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jandarian Tech: i figured as much...but I thought I took care of UAC..guess not.
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: other options are turn off UAC, or installing into a directory other than program files
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: I am so embarassed. I actually like Windows 7 and Office 2010. Twenty years to get a positive comment out of me.
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jandarian Tech: i understand....me too! there was always something to said for the Win line...now it seems M$ is paying a little more attention.
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salvanas Tech: heh, so microsoft actually ID get something right for once? wow.
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salvanas Tech: DID*
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jandarian Tech: i'm testing AW with Win7 using speech req & a screen reader. any advice/tips?
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JemCheeta Tech: Hey, I just started, and I was trying to figure out how to make the MUSHclient - [Aardwolf] have a seperate window for the player communication and another window for the main game text, like it showed on the screen shot.  Can someone help me out?
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: JemCheeta, check out "help client faq"
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: anyone know how to try and figure out why cmud gives an "out of memory" exception when trying to run syntax checker?
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: because it's written by Zugg
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: zing!
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: likely a loop that is gobbling without releasing
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: you could run a debugger - but since you don't have access to the code, it would be impossible to fix
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: anyone know how copy the exact colors and text on the mud to a permant document?
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: looking for some info about electronic recycling in the US, anyone who owns/works at a computer/electronic store send a tell please
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, most computer/electronics stores would probably know the least of anyone about the topic...they get the stuff new, not when it's being thrown out (best buy has a recycling accept program in all US stores, though)...http://www.epa.gov/osw/conserve/materials/ecycling/ is a good resource for it
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: is it a pay per use system?
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piesang Tech: anyone know how to change yur name on a multiplayer game that runs through steam
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rithlin Tech: Anyone know how I can change the values for my numkey pad for zMud?
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modi Tech: in macros?
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: create a macro
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: in the "key"blank just click the respective key you want to change
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pryrates Tech: Does anyone know what the computer archives database for the University of Michigan is called?
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: I know someone who would know
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pryrates Tech: IC something
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pryrates Tech: 5 leters, all I can remember of it
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: he was head of IT there
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pryrates Tech: nice
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pryrates Tech: any luck Davos?
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: he's not answering IM
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: oh my bad
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: he worked at univ of eastern michigan
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: I was close.
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pryrates Tech: ahh
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rithlin Tech: Anyone running AardDevil + Win7 together? If it's possible.
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: What's AardDevil?
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rithlin Tech: A GUI interface.
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: To what?
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Not that it matters personally, I don't have win7, but I'm curious.
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rithlin Tech: Just show's stats and ect... in Aard.
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I see ... let me see if I can find out more about it.
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rithlin Tech: Nod, thanks.
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Wow, it looks like it's a zMud addon?
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rithlin Tech: It is
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I didn't watch past the first few seconds of the video. :P
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rithlin Tech: Works great on my Xp sys, but can't get it to run on Win7
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Isn't there some sort of compatibility mode, though?
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rithlin Tech: Tried that
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: For Win7 to emulate XP, that is.
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enemy Tech: is there a working zmud spellup script?
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Yes.
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a few of them
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: danj is the most recent, I believe
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enemy Tech: could you good people point one out for me?
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: uses the spelltags, etc
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ttigers Tech: http://www.atreidess.baalclan.com/
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Ttigers, it's no longer up. ;)
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Besides, he never had a spellup script.
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ttigers Tech: what the site isnt?
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it is up, but I don't think he did a spellup
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger danj for a site with a spellup script
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Oh yeah, it is up. Just didn't need the www in there. ;)
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ttigers Tech: wth there use to be a spellup script on there i though
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ttigers Tech: oh well lol
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: CMud's mangling that url, Ttigers, could you resend it or at least give me it via tell?
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: For as long as I've known that site, there's never been a spellup script on it... :P
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Urwin: It's not CMUD. Take out the www.
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enemy Tech: didn't see one on danj's site
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it works with the www
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Didn't work for me when I typed it in the address bar...
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: enemy, did you click on wacko jacko's zmud scripts?
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enemy Tech: I jsut did, sorry
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: worked fine when I copy/pasted
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: no, there's never any http address that uses a second set of // unless it's including some sort of referral url as a script argument
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Oy vey. NOW it works. First came back as 404. *shrugh* May have mistyped it the first time, and typed it correctly the second time.
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: so what I was seeing was http://www.something//www.the url.whatever
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: so please resend it? :)
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enemy Tech: how do you turn on spelltags?
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: with the tags command
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: tags spells on.
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: tags spellups on
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and tags on
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: MAN, I'm off today. *sigh*
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enemy Tech: I must be an idiot, I can't get these modules to work
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delvok Tech: Hey, I just bought a SATA USB Hard drive, and I'm doing a Active-KillDisk kill on it (reseting to zeros)... after this what do I need to do to partition it to fat32? will windows recognize it as a drive?
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: why do you need use killdisk on it?
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delvok Tech: it was setup under mac, so I thought it would be good to clean it out completely
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: i thought the only reason to use something like that would be to stop people recovering the data
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delvok Tech: it showed up as a storage device but not under my computer... after a google search I seen killdisk would work for clearing it up
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, and even then it's ineffective ;-)
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delvok Tech: but I think ill still need to partition it as fat32 after im done
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it wouldn't show under my computer because it has no partitions
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delvok Tech: so how can I partiton it? whats a good program?
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right-click my computer, go to manage
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delvok Tech: I dont have a windows disk.... :-S
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: under that is storage -> disk management
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delvok Tech: ok cool thanks
T1/r7/2009-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delvok Tech: i see it
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delvok Tech: I know this isnt a tech question, but how does aardwolf control inflation?
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: it doesn't
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: it doesn't, it's a floating economy
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: applying a lot of external pressure.
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: increased the max numbers of the numbers
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delvok Tech: interesting.. I guess the TP exchange helps
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delvok Tech: what should I name my external hard drive? :-p
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abdiel Tech: Delvok
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Pwnd.
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: Lor?
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: Sexternal
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: (Pwnd for the name, not that you were...)
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: PortaPorn
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delvok Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: Does anyone know what this "%-1" is for in zmud scripting?
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ttigers Tech: ok im having a problem with zmud scripts >< i load them and they work but as soon as i quit zmud i have to load them again like they have never been used... any ideas?
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: anyone know why the scroll wheel on my mouse makes the text larger and smaller, depending on which direction i'm scrolling it?
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: operator error?
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: it used to do that a couple of years ago, then it stopped...now it's randomly started up again
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delvok Tech: how cdome disk manager is only leting me partition to nstf? how do I get fat 32?
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: is the disc set to basic or dynamic?
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delvok Tech: not sure.. how do i check?
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: in disk manager, below the disc number, is the type of drive it is. mine says, for instance, disk 0, basic
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: AFAIK, since XP, Windows won't let use FAT for a partition >32 GB. Use something else to partition it or use NTFS.
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delvok Tech: ahh ok.. its 320gb
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: that would explain it. i usually format and partition from the command prompt under windows or linux
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: and seldom use fat32 except on thumb drives. why do you want it fat32, anyhow?
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delvok Tech: its a usb external hard drive.. and im running dual boot vista/mandriva linux 10
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delvok Tech: so I want it to work for both
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: uh huh. linux has decent ntfs support these days
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: Pretty much every linux distro out there has decided that they have to play nice with winblows in order to get the user base...
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: It's a good thing.
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delvok Tech: is there such a downside to fat32?
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delvok Tech: I mean I just know that fat works without question or driver issues
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delvok Tech: but maybe ill give it a try with ntsf and see what I can do
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: so will ntfs.
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: yes, windows performance sucks when installed on fat32. if it's just movies and songs or whatever, you probably won't notice
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: for a thumb drive, it would very little difference
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: make*
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: it's for an external 320gb HDD
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delvok Tech: ya its just going to be all my pictures, docs, mp3s and movies
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: oh
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: ntfs has a better addressing scheme for large disks. Fat32 was designed when disks were small.
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: it's also a journalling filesystem, so it's less likely to corrupt your files when you forget to unmount it before unplugging
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delvok Tech: so were saying its better to ntfs it and adjust linux accordingly?
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: yes.
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delvok Tech: when I partition through computer manager... do I want to assign a drive letter? wont it give it whatever drive letter is consecutively available?
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: it will probably give it the next available letter, but not always. you can set it to whatever you like, at any time, as long as no system files in use or pagefile in use exist on it
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: Just assign it a drive letter. It doesn't follow the disk. It is only the the OS it is currently attached to.
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delvok Tech: ok i gave er an X
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dizzyworm Tech: this is a cmud question. i loaded channels/stat/map etc from library.. but the movement and updates of the windows are not smooth.. any way to sort that out?
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trunx Tech: How do i edit the triggers on MUSHclient ?
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: alt+enter, click triggers, figure it out
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trunx Tech: any better solutions :D
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minki Tech: go to the wepsite of mush there they give good intructions for mush trigger
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: alt+enter, hit triggers, then click on the trigger you want to edit and click "edit"
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: wtf do you want, me to bake you a pie and clean your kitchen while i tell you?
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trunx Tech: okays thanks 
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: and if you'd bothered to look you would've seen it right away.
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trunx Tech: no need to get angry *bows
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Patriot Tech: Wash the toilet will be good enuff
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trunx Tech: hehe
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: with excel if you have already merged cells is there a way to select like 2 and unmerge them or do you have to unmerge all then re merge?
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: unmerge all, then re-merge the ones you want.
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: blagh i want to shoot my bluetooth chip it does not want to connect to the printer today
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: so use a better wireless tech
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: it was the only thing in my budget stupid toshiba stuff now i remember why i hate them
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: Asus is more affordable and reliable than Toshiba :P
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i got this labtop on sale, could not beat the specs, only downfall was it was toshiba
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fierre Tech: You could get one of those Bluetooth micro-dongles for $10-20 if its lack of reliability is sufficiently motivating?
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: it finally decided to work, i was just to lazy to get up and plug in my computer -.-
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I just got an uber-cheap microdongle for $6, haven't played with it yet though
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=PD-BD10
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fierre Tech: I love mine, just barely sticks out past its USB slot and it's the most reliable BT connection I've used
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, one this is that small...I also have one that's the size of a usual usb memory stick
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fierre Tech: I'm so clumsy I was sure I'd break that kind sooner rather than later :D
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: is it just me, or does Windows 7 not come with helvetica?
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: has anyone ever messed aroud with dwm (direct window manager) ?
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: Does anyone have a link to a moontracker with notifications for CMUD?
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: is cmud worth purchasing yet or is zmud more reliable
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: I like cmud
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: but I also like zmud too
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what is the licensing length on cmud updates
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: i'm trying out lyntin, does anyone use it?
T1/r7/2009-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: does anyone here use lyntin?
T1/r7/2009-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: WHEEE! Look at firefox go! 261 MB of RAM! :D 94% CPU usage!!!
T1/r7/2009-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delvok Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delvok Tech: switch to opera?
T1/r7/2009-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Nah. Firefox is ok. It was my fault overall. ;)
T1/r7/2009-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wereturtle Tech: too much porn at once?
T1/r7/2009-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delvok Tech: I dunno, I dont believe anything can be overloaded
T1/r7/2009-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Well, your mom DOES fill up the whole screen...
T1/r7/2009-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus tickles Wereturtle.
T1/r7/2009-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wereturtle Tech: ewww... enjoy your BBW porn then :P
T1/r7/2009-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: anyone know why using the scroll wheel is making the text on my web browser zoom in and out all of a sudden?
T1/r7/2009-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your computer thinks you're holding control key down
T1/r7/2009-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: hrmm...i'm not, though
T1/r7/2009-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sometimes the ADA software gets stuck into thinking you are...pressing shift key 5 times toggles stickykeys, for example
T1/r7/2009-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: logging out & back in resets those
T1/r7/2009-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: ok, i'll try that. thanks :)
T1/r7/2009-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: with chmod ugo = user group others ? 
T1/r7/2009-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: hmm, i'll ask google. ;o)
T1/r7/2009-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: any Fourier analysis experts around?
T1/r7/2009-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: anyone know what "mov [di], [si]" should be in 16-bit mode asm ? getting invalid instruction error
T1/r7/2009-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: oh wait, that's equivalent to memory to memory, nvm
T1/r7/2009-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: . o O (  ) Habasi jumps high into the air shouting out, "WOOHOO!"
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: are any of you still awake using 3.xx cmud?  I'm having some weird issues with command-input triggers and the map.
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: i use it
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: you have your own runto, or do you still use aard's?  If you have your own, are you using an alias or a command-input trigger?
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: I use an alias.  But mines alittle more complicated
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: my CI trigger is working, in the sense that I'm actually speedwalking somewhere, but the mapper stopped following me
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: the mapper otherwise works correctly and follows with no problem at all, so it's really baffling me
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: sounds like its mapper setting to me
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: I went to great pains to make sure my map follows me, almost perfectly
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: I'm not even sure what it could be.  After all, the speedwalk is going to aardwolf just fine, so it's not like I'm unable to access the mapper
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: are you just starting to build this out? or did it work origionally?
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: the trigger is a new development, I was using an alias before that
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: are you building your sw's dynamicly using the map?
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: I'm straight referencing the vnums, then issuing the #WALK command on that.  Any directions issued are from CMud's internal map logic
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: it still sounds like your room detections
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: I used to have datarecord variables for each area, but that got unwieldy so I moved all that to the DB
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: thats not really needed
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: neither is the CI trigger
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: when you walk room by room does the map detect and follow?
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: yes, perfectly
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: recall and portals and everything about the mapper works fine when I'm typing in directions myself
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: say your at recall and you enter run 3s does it follow?
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: yep
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: are you safe walking or fast walking on your map?
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: normally fast mode, but right this second I'm in slow
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: you need to be in sage
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: safe
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: then the map doesnt move until it sees the room name
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: fast its gonna move no matter what
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: slow is just well, slow
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: still same problem in safe mode
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: do you use something like this? #exec {%replace( %replace( %replace( %replace( %walk( %1), ".", "run "), "(", ";"), ")", ";run "), "run ;", "")}
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: that should be in your rrun alias
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: nope, all I have to type in is "runto keyword".  From there, it does some simple conditional evaluation so that I'm not issuing blind or invalid commands
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: and I'm not using an alias, just a command-input trigger
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: which is essentially an alias
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: true, but it gets all the other neat trigger stuff too.  Aliases don't
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: this is the basic setup I use
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: I have a goto keyword alias that looks like this rrun %db( otolocs, %0)
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: I have a goto keyword alias that looks like this rrun %db( @gotolocs, %0)
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: then I have a rrun alias that has that %exec i posted earlier
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: then you have an alias called run that has...~run %0;#FORALL %pathexpand( %0) {#MAP %i}
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: its a bit more complicated than that, but thats the basic jist
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ibien Tech: I'm looking for a linux mud client with the ability to split chats into another window, anyone know of one?
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: any of them can
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: tintin
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ibien Tech: really? how? I haven't found a single function to do that
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: #help split
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ibien Tech: thanks, i'll try
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: probably a few examples on their site - they're pretty decent w/ documentation of functions and examples
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: split doesn't do that...that just gives you an input area
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ibien, the general way to accomplish what you're looking to do with a CLI MUD client is to capture the channels to a file, and then tail -f that file or similar, using a separate xterm
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can also do some neat stuff using the unix "screen" program
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it has a more flexible split setup available
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ibien Tech: alright, but then, if i redirect output to a pipe, how can i send input to the client?
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: keep focus in the client
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ibien Tech: hrm. I have to try this out. Why is there no mushclient-clone for linux? xD
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hawkings Tech: u can use wine for mushclient
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can run mushclient on linux just fine
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ibien Tech: I'm running no-multilib, so no wine, unfortunately.
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so install wine if you want a gui client that you'll be able to find support for
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ibien Tech: yeah, but I can't install wine. :)
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you can't install wine, then you probably can't install anything else and the questions are meaningless
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ibien Tech: wait... what?
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: I like Mudlet, if you like Mush that wouldn't be a biggie... both use Lua for scripting
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ibien Tech: I can't install wine since it relies on 32-bit libraries, which I don't have.
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it doesn't rely on anything that you can't have
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ibien Tech: chosig: yeah, I'm actually looking at mudlet now.
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: using lua has nothing to do with actually being able to get support for scripting...
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: http://wiki.winehq.org/Wine64
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you want to be able to ask questions, get them answered, and find scripts, then mush, c/zmud, tinyfugue or tintin
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are a couple people using other things, and they'll speak up once a month or so, and don't have any public scripts available
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: amen to that Abe
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so if you want to use something other than those mentioned, you'll be reinventing the wheel and coding everything from scratch, from rudimentary to extensive
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ibien Tech: chosig: wine64, great. Any 64bit mushclient around?
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: that's an windows issue... and afaik all 64bit windows can run 32bit apps? 
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ibien Tech: yeah, but wine64 without 32bit libs won't be able to run 32bit windows applications
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which is why not using 32 bit libs is simply stupid, and you should be fixing that
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ibien Tech: I know, I didn't think I'd be needing the 32bit libraries, and I'm easier off without them. But getting them back is tough.
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: quick question with mush and wine, how do I make wine understand that screen is 1600x900 instead of 1024x768 which it uses right now? windows can be widened, but active part wont go beyond that lower resolution
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ibien Tech: foren: do you have two screens? i had that issue, wine would get bigger then the smallest resolution screen
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: nope, I had smaller screen and upgraded, now wine stays at 2/3 of the screen
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ibien Tech: tried the "virtual screen"-thingie?
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: yep, doesnt work
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: Haha... almost went insane... local Apache was running, no localhost... restart, check config, running nice, no syntax error... strange... OOhhh... missing 127.0.0.1 localhost entry in /etc/hosts...
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: heh, the local loopback interface thingy wins again !
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tundah Tech: Question on triggers with the MUSHclient, what's the equivalent to percent sign and number as used in zmud triggers?
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dizzyworm Tech: is there a way to increase font size of other windows in cmud?
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: is a HD4670 ok for gaming if i'm not in FPS stuff?
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: any computer's ok for aard
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: been looking for low powered gfx cards that are semi decent
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: hmm. what games would interest you then?
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: lotro, RPGs, stuff like that
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: some of them behindview games like guild wars are as hard or harder on gfx card than fps's
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: ugh, that's not good :(
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: but then others like WoW hardly push them at all...
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: if you don't mind playing games invented in the last 10 years though and skip out on the new ones you don't have to spend much
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abdiel Tech: what does it matter? just run them on medium settings.
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: like i said, FPS arent for me
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: dizzy just looking at the damn things
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: hmmm thanks for the info, heading off to a computer swapmeet to grab some cheap stuff :)
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: i'd have to say yes
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: for the price, the 4670 is pretty good
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twyst Tech: do they still sell 8800's?
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: i don't mind spending more, but i'm limited on the powersupply side
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twyst Tech: scratch that lol
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: looking to cap at below 100W peak and pref 10W idle
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: need like an 800 watt psu to run a 9800 gtx
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: got a 260gtx atm
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: yep. they call 'em 9800gt's now though/
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twyst Tech: I just figured that 8800s would have come down in price being 2-3 generations old
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: i got an 8600 gt, works good
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twyst Tech: but they are power hungy
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: 8800 prices are relatively stable, given that the newer stuff are out now
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: 8800 has hardware physx on it right?
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: mostly because the next gen stuff is like 0.5 generation :X
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: the 8800's are overpriced, because of how popular they were
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: yes, they support physx, but they aren't as good as sharing gpu + physx on the same card
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: they do it well as a standalone, but you really need a gtx260 or above to get good physx performance and graphics on the same card
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: the gt2xx cards are better standalone physx cards than 8800's though, as they require very little power and are a better arch.
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: i meant, the gt220-gt240
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: gt240 still takes in a fair chunk of juice at full power
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: the newer, low end dx10.1 compatible 8800's :D
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: it still fits in the pcie v2 spec, which is a lot better than an 8800gt
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: no external power
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: on another question... are the intel g2 SSDs back in stock in the US?
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: now that the TRIM fix has been fixed
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: what plugins do you guys use that dont come with the standard mush download?
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twyst Tech: sharp tracker
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: what does taht do
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twyst Tech: it is useful for a lot of different things
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twyst Tech: here is a url for some really good plugins --http://aardhaven.comli.com/mush.html--
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: cool thanks
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twyst Tech: np
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iyethar Tech: What's the preferred command to send on an idle timeout trigger?
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: enter
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: (I mean carriage return)
T1/r7/2009-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iyethar Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: is ddr2 and ddr3 ram interchangeable ? they're both 240 pin right ?
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: nein
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: but they run at different clock speeds
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: and ddr3 ram requires less power
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: I figured as much, thanks :)
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: anyone here use sketchup?
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: i have. what's up?
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: what kind of system you run it on?
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: xp. i just used the free version for class
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: hmm, i'm trying to get it to work in ubuntu, it doesn't like me though :(
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: is it pretty easy to use though?
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: justin the nerd!
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: does anyone have any idea why my secondary monitor would have just stopped working all of a sudden?
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: my computer screen is still set up as if there is stuff over there i can mouse over
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: but its getting no signal
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: checked cable?
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: yeah
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: lcd?
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: possibly vid card snafu
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: i did have a lcd monitor go on me once, forced a firmware reset and it was ok
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: hmm not lcd the secondarys an old crt
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: the thing is i just 10 minutes ago took apart the computer to replace a fan
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: so it doesn't seem like this is a coincidence
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: think you zapped something?
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: but i have no idea what i could have done
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: you accidentally hit a jumper on the card?
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: hmm possibly the fan i was fooling with was on the power supply though
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i grounded myself and got rid of the charge inthe power supply before i did anything
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: try using the crt as the primary
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: how do i do that?
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: random fooling around in display settings is not making it apparent to me
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i'm not much of a tech guru
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: you've got both monitors connected to the same video card, correct?
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: correct
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: disconnect the crt that just went dead
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: the video cable
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: done
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: you have aard up on the main screen atm?
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: yep
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: tech or a separate comp?
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: on main screen
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: my secondary comp was canniballized to allow dual monitors for my main comp
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: k... disconnect the main screen from the vid card and plug the crt into the main screen's slot
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: if it doesnt work, restore the main monitor
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: oh the main slot is a different style output
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: wider
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: ah
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: won't hold the crt plug
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: nods
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: no other computers nearby?
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i guess i can just go back to single monitors
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: no unfortunately
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: nods... was hoping you could test the monitor on a different card
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: to see where the problem is
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: lemme see if my other comp has an os on it :)
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i'll see if the monitor shows up there
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: bios
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: it should show up bios
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: well apparently its the monitor
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: because it is not showing anything
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: hmm
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: really odd i disconnected it for like 10 minutes to fix the stupid fan and it would break then
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: is there anything retarded i could have done while disconnecting it that would have done this?
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: until its been static'd, don't know
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: unless*
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: just says no signal check video cable which is definitely pluggeed into the old computer that may or may not have an os
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: it was already plugged in when you started up the comp?
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: yep
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: oh gos
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i'm so stupid
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: its sort of a maze of wires under the computer desk
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: wrong cable?
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: and my main  monitor has 2 cords...the wide version and the not wide version
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i was plugging in my main monitor twice like an idiot
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: haha
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: <--- this is why i'm not working in tech support :D
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: naah you asked me if i had checked the cord...i really thought i had traced it back to the monitor but there was a twist in tehe back above the dessk that i couldn't see
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: hmm how do I make capture windows for zMud?
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: write #capture and press F1
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dizzyworm Tech: anyone else using cmud notice the screen just freezing and cannot close?
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: not really
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dizzyworm Tech: i'm using the beta version
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrazySk8er DaRicoDude Tech: which is better psp or pc?
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrazySk8er DaRicoDude Tech: ok, stupid question.
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piesang Tech: how does a spellup script actually work
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: it compares "spells affected" to "spells spellup". any that aren't there, it casts, one at a time
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piesang Tech: is it illegal to use one on this game
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: no
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: as long as you're at your keyboard
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: there's already one built into the game
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: at your keyboard AND paying attention
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: unless you want to spell someone else up that is
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: the one on the aard site can detect when you're afk, and it stops casting
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piesang Tech: ok maby i should get that one then
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: it does have disadvantages vs the builtin command though, so i suggest you try that first
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piesang Tech: where exactly is the ardwolf one is it on their main website 
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: yep. go to the download section for the client, then click on plugins.
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: the bottom hotlink takes you to the spellup script
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piesang Tech: spellup plugin right
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: right
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piesang Tech: The XML page cannot be displayed 
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: you have to right click the link, save as
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piesang Tech: The XML page cannot be displayed Cannot view XML input using XSL style sheet. Please correct the error and then click the Refresh button, or try again later. 
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: LISTEN. you have to SAVE the XML file, not view it
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piesang Tech: oh
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piesang Tech: i save it under where my mushclient program is ??
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: yeah. i'd put it in the plugins/aardwolf folder, but it can exist anywhere
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piesang Tech: now what
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: in mushclient: file, plugins
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piesang Tech: ok then
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: click add, find your spellup.xml (or whatever it's called) and add it
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: everything else should be explained with spellup help
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: presuming it installs correctly, of course
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piesang Tech: lol i dont know where the file is 
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piesang Tech: this is what i did i got the file then on my c drive i have my folder called aardwolf where my mushclient is thats where i saved it in the same file was i not suppose to do that
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: you can save the file anywhere, as long as you can find it with the plugin adder
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piesang Tech: ok i found it and it says no such file or directory stack traceback 
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: ok, maybe being in the right folder would be helpful after all then...
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piesang Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piesang Tech: where do i find the plugin folder
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: mushclient > worlds > plugins > aardwolf
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piesang Tech: ok
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piesang Tech: ok now i dont know what happened
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: what do you mean?
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piesang Tech: it said loaded info about 560 spells 
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: then it's working
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piesang Tech: and loaded info about 28 recoveries
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: you'll probably also want a window for the spellup plugin. I suggest you make a copy of chats.mcl in the mushclient > worlds > aardwolf folder, and rename it spellups.mcl
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piesang Tech: then why did it say cant open world file: C:\Program Files\Mushclient\worlds\Aardwolf\Spellups.mcl
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: because that file doesn't exist yet?
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: if you read what i wrote last, that's the easiest way to get a spellup window
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: you could also make a new world manually, but i think you'd break it.
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: anyway, i'm off for a bit, you'll need to get help off someone else if you have further problems. all the info you need is in tech -h if you need to recheck
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piesang Tech: are you still ther ei have one more question
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piesang Tech: anyone here
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: read tech -h.
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piesang Tech: i dont understand what the spellup window is for
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: to tell you what spells you have affecting you.
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piesang Tech: oh
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piesang Tech: i dont think its working
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piesang Tech: what is it suppose to do
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piesang Tech: coz i keep having to type all my spells out just like before
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: duh, read the help file?
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piesang Tech: helpfile from this game or like a actual help thing
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piesang Tech: im am seriously confused
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: if you do spellup all
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: then it should add all your available spells and automatically keep them spelled up
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: have you got a list of spells under "Requested" at the bottom of the window?
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piesang Tech: yeah it worked thanks i didnt know the command
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: spellup help gives you the documentation
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piesang Tech: oh well i dont need that
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piesang Tech: last question when my spell stops affecting me will it automatically activate it again
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: apparently you DO need to read that documentation.
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: well, yes, that's the idea
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: that question is answered in there
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: it will wait till you are in an appropriate state, so not if you are fighting, or reading a note or others
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Swalec dies while typing his answer
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: it doesn't spellup when you are dead either -- it's very good
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piesang Tech: ok i opened that file that i copied from chats then named spellups.mxl or whatever so it will just stand there and do what
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piesang Tech: show my spells right
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: it shows your current spells, time left, any recoveries, Requested spells and current position (sleeping, fighting or so on)
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piesang Tech: well right now all it shows is welcome to mushclient version 3.33! written by nick gammon bla bla bla then his website address then blank screen
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: well, did you read the installation instructions? if it's all too much, then just use the system spellup which is also pretty good
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piesang Tech: 4,33 not 3,33
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I used both
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piesang Tech: lol i never read the instruction coz i dont know where thay are
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: then find the instruction
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: perhaps you should just use the system spellup....
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: sneak is right, piesang, it's not too hard, but you do need to read enough to get it working
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piesang Tech: all i do is type spellup all and that works fine
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: sure if that works.
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: that's the system spellup -- good for most circumstances
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I use it a lot myself. With the right arguments, it's good enough :)
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piesang Tech: so i actually wated an hour trying to do that other spellup thing when i could have type spellup all this whole time
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Maybe :)
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: the plugin has some advantages -- I use it so I can switch things like invis on and off
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: and also, because it autospells up when fighting, but yes, the system spellup is also good
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: you might have saved time with the plugin if you read the instructions though
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piesang Tech: i just liek the fact that it keeps spelling you up
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: scripts > system spellup
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: more control
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: more options, as well.
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: WinXP: is there info in my control panel or administrative options that holds my ram type, so I don't have to take it out and look ?
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: or somewhere
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: no, but you can usually a tool like everest, sandra or cpuz to find out
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: nah, it's already open, I can just as well turn the comp off and pull it out. just being lazy
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: cpuz will tell you most accurately what it's actually capable of, everest will tell you what is't actually running at now
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: last i checked, everest was capable of enumerating spd settings
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i find everest often isn't capable of enumerating stuff :-(
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: heh. in any case, cpuz is tiny. but yeah, get your hands dirty. it's good for the sould
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: ^soul
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cailte Tech: anyone here use gain monitor on mush client?
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: i use nick gammon's exp_gain. it's pretty basic, but it does the job
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cailte Tech: i just can't get it to output on the proper channel...
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cailte Tech: i think it's outputting in echo... I want it to use gt.
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}God Damn Kheftiu Tech: open it with a text editor and replace echo wit gt
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight K. Schrute Tech: Any guitar techs online?
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: whats up dwight
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: i'm not a tech but i've been playing for 12 years
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight K. Schrute Tech: I have wicked fret buzz, but I know my action is fine, and the frets aren't worn... It doesn't look like the neck is tweaked at all, but it might be just slightly. Not sure what to do about it.
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: whole neck or just a few notes?
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight K. Schrute Tech: just a few at the low end.
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: all the strings at one position or just a few?
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: could be bridge adjusted wrong, fingers not placed right or strong enough
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: or just a cheap guitar?
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight K. Schrute Tech: Just a few strings. And the fingers are definitely fine (not to be cocky, but I've tried them with all different pressures and angles.)
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: and is it new or has it always happened?
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight K. Schrute Tech: it's new. And the guitar is not high-end, granted.
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: hmmm..well, if it's at the low end, it's either one or two of the frets sticking out
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: he could try filing them down some if he finds which ones are hitting
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: or maybe the nut isn't entirely good
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: i advise being very careful there thou
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: http://www.fretnotguitarrepair.com/buzzing.htm
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight K. Schrute Tech: Well, I wouldn't file them myself. But if the frets are sticking out, is it a matter of having them pushed back in, or replacing them?
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: and check the action where it's ahppening -- if it's the nut, the action might be too low nearby
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: if they are uneven, then either you get the replaced or you tap them in a bit
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: but if you aren't sure, or they look flat, you might want to take it to a shop
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight K. Schrute Tech: I probably will end up taking it to a shop, but I only got it set up 3 months ago, so I'm thinking it's a deeper problem than just a matter of small adjustments.
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: there are only a few things that it can be -- frets, nut, neck or saddle
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: what kind of guitar is it?
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight K. Schrute Tech: Electric, Luthier.
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwight K. Schrute Tech: I think it's most likely the nut, because I've checked everything else out that was mentioned. Thanks, Swalec, Tall, Arnica.
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: your welcome
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Livonya Tech: anyone know where to remove windows in Zmud ?
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Livonya Tech: have far more windows than I wanted...
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: just close them. and if there's a script creating them you should remove it
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daisoujou Tech: how do I make it so that communications come ONLY to the chat window and not both the main and chat? Or is that possible?
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: mushclient? chats echo off
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daisoujou Tech: thank you!
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: np, learning Mushclient myself over the last couple of weeks, used Zmud before...
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twyst Tech: anyone know how to make a variable alias in Mushclient?
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: what do you mean?
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twyst Tech: like the alias would be s x, and the output would be scan x
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twyst Tech: with x being a variable
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: So you want to screw yourself out of being able to move south?
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: you can do that with the system alias command
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: you can use more than just 's' to move south.
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: if using numpad that won't matter
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: but just make the alias s *
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus slaps Blessed Balaam.
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twyst Tech: okay, what about the response
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: and have send to mud
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: scan %1
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twyst Tech: thanks cookar
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: or! with the system alias - alias s scan
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What program(s) can cut MKV files without re-compressing them like Virtualdub does for AVI files?
T1/r7/2009-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: BTW, I know VDMod can do it. It just takes forever to parse MKV files in VDMod
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pilate Tech: How do I get localecho to work on telnet?
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: by pirating a copy of zmud...
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Hit CTRL+] and type "set localecho" and then hit enter
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: But you really should use a real client
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krion Tech: Like MUSHclient
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pilate Tech: I just come on to talk to old friends, though
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pilate Tech: Thanks, btw :)
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piesang Tech: anyone know where i can find the instructions to the spell up script
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: i'm back on piesang :S
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: which client
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piesang Tech: mush
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: for installation or use?
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piesang Tech: use
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: type spellup help
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piesang Tech: doesnt work
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: the only thing you had left to do was edit spellup.msc, and change the window name from chats to Spellups
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: ^spellups.msc
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piesang Tech: the problem is yesterday when ever the spell was cast it would go like this cast levitation etc then it would fail or cast it now it does this {affoff}435 when it goes away which it didnt do 
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: if it can't output to the proper window, it will probably spam stuff like that
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piesang Tech: and yesterday it use to show all the spells in order that it would cast when i typed spell up all and now it says queing spells and gives a long list
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piesang Tech: is there something i did wrong when i copied chats and named it spellup
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: are you reading what i'm writing?
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piesang Tech: yes how do you make this > just facing up
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piesang Tech: control what
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: o.o
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: shift + 6
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: depends on keyboard layout thou
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: anyhow, i'll spam everyone again since you seem reluctant to type tech -h
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: but that could be safe bet
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: the only thing you had left to do was edit Mushclient/worlds/aardwolf/spellups.msc, and change the window name from chats to Spellups
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: it will say name=Chats. change that to name=Spellups
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: then reload the plugin, or restart the client
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piesang Tech: ok it was the plugin that needed to be reloded thanks and i did make that chat thing but it doesnt work
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tunst Tech: any way to alias multiple commands in mush client
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: just put them in the send field.  One comand per line
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: my cmud(3.12) packages are all showing up empty in the settings editor yet if I open them in a text editor I can see all the settings are there. Anyone have to deal with this?
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: in your setting window make sure you have the magnifying glass clicked on the left hand side... far left
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: i know it's not that, the settings are gone none of the aliases are active etc
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: hmm
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: anyone know a good auto hunt script for mushclient 4.43?
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Not hard to make.
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: i have very limited scripting experince and by 'very limited' i mean almost none.
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: the not-having-the-skill part is tougher, but you can get around that by maintaining a list of speedwalks ;)
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: speedwalks? i just need to hunt take the direction and move that way until the target is in the room. i know logically how it'd look but I don't know the correct syntax/format/etc.. for it
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the difficulty is in your character banging its head against walls ;-)
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: yes, speedwalks.  If you don't have hunt sufficiently trained, it'd just take you in random directions
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are a couple autohunt scripts on the mushclient forums...www.mushclient.com, click search
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I know swalec has one, and oinoitsu has another
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: ergo, to get around that pointlessness, at least in places where aimless wandering isn't necessary, you just just run straight to your mob
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: ahhh
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: thanks abelinc
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: mine is up on the mushclient forums, after my website got balked
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: hmm. i have the script installed and it says it's on and hunting the correct element but does not move after hunting
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: at http://www.gammon.com.au/mushclient/plugins/Swalec
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: even when you're in that zone where hunt is mostly-but-not-reliably correct, you can use the speedwalk to verify that the current hunt attempt is pointing you in the right direction.  The slower approach lets you more accurately determine when it's time to move, preventing a bunch of "Not while you are fighting!" messages from spamming.
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: if the mushclient forum version doesn't work try this instead....http://pastebin.com/f3366167d
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: with this exits plugin... http://pastebin.com/f16c5ab34
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: it seems to be installed properly but hangs up. it will run once and move once but then the loop stops
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: did you try the new versions I just put up -- if I remember, some of the prompts have changed
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: those are the versions that I am using to autohunt as we speak
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: ok. i'll try the links
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: sorry it's a bit clunky, I'm missing a web site at the moment
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: don't sweat it. i appreciate the help
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: i get Line   15: Plugin "id" field must be unique for this world (problem in this file)
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: did you remove all the previous ones?
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: disabled them. should i remove completely?
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: yeah -- I can't remember whether I changed the file names at any point
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: ok i removed the previous ones and installed the new ones but get the same hangup. it will install, correctly, run once and then after successfully hunting and moving it will stop and not continue the loop.
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: hmmmm...what command are you using to start it? 
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: i'm in oz and i type autohunt flower
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I have a 0.02 Mbs upload speed -- seems like the old dial up days
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 20kb/s? not terrible
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: yeah, it's really bad -- supposed to be 500
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you'd not get 500 in this country
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that's great for a dial up :P
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anywhere
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not on a residential account, anyway
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: it's not dialup, it's cable 
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: seems like the old dialup days, but it's not supposed to
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: heh, we have cheap 100mbs down connections available here :)
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: dunno aboot the upload specs tho
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: most residential accounts here max out at 384kbits up
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what's that, 40KB?
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: or thereabouts
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: premium residential connection with 100mbit/s down and 20mbit/s up for a reasonable price. around 20-30 euros a month
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not in the UK they ain't :-)
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: we all run off a phone network last updated in 1982
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, that includes digital tv and a landline :)
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I'm a bit stuck to be honest, Lundfu -- can you do "tags" for me?
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: and tell me if "EXITS" and ROOMNAMES is on?
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: sorry. was messing around on the web page. let me check
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: neither is on
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: finally, are you using a recent mushclient? it should work with the aardwolf client version but I haven't tried it for ages
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: hmmm, well, it's supposed to switch them both on during install, but without them, it won't work
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I could tell you the command, if my internet connection was actually working!
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Swalec now has an internet connection so slow, he can't load a website speedtester
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: lol. i am using mushclient 4.43
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: well, that spam proved it...you DO have slow connection :)
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: okay, so it's tags exits on and tags roomnames on
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: my internet connection is now so slow, that I can't load www.speedtest.net
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: they are both set on off
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: switch them on
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: the exit's detector uses them, otherwise, well, it won't detect the exits
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: That's it!!!!!
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: thanks. it's working perfectly now
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: thank you so much. that script works great
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: don't know why it too me so long to think off -- nor why it doesn't work straight away -- it should do
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: i don't think i ever toggled those commands
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: that's client side or server side?
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: they are server side commands -- they add tags to the mud output -- my plugin hides it again from you, but uses it to find detect room changes
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: well my char is from 2003 so i may have changed them a long time ago and forgot about it. lol
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: no, they weren't in then -- my guess is that the plugin would have worked if you had restarted -- the plugin is supposed to check, and supposed to switch them on, but perhaps it's broken. It's not code that gets tested very often because once it's on...
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: gotcha. well either way it works perfectly now. thanks again for all your help troubleshooting
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: my pleasure, enjoy the plugin
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lundfu )
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soulburden Tech: replay
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: how did I get my command line to be right justified? and how do I get it back to being on the left?!?
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: oops, zMud
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: any help with zmud?
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: Need someone who can code in mush.
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: like reprogram it?  I'd need MFC libraries...
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: i give a 5 tp's to the person that helps me with this, you recieve tps when problem is fixed
T1/r7/2009-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Well, since I don't see any problem listed in tech history...  can I declare the problem fixed?
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarvo Tech: is any one good at configuring mush client?
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I hear this Nick Gammon guy is fantastic at it.
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: heh
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: he could have had a ghostwriter!
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarvo Tech: hehe
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarvo Tech: it seems as if my chat bar isnt working, its quite annoying as you can imagine
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: chat bar?
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: for a plugin shoving your chat into another window?  Or the command line where you type everything?
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarvo Tech: the plugin showing chat in a seperate window
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarvo Tech: it deosnt work
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: which plugin?  Is this one that comes with AardMUSH, or did you grab it from the forums?  My ancient one from my website?
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarvo Tech: hmm let me check
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarvo Tech: when i installed mush no plugins existed, so i had to download them all
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: oh, type "tags" and see if CHANNELS has a yes or a no next to it.  The newer plugins require the channels bit to be on.
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarvo Tech: it is on
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: well, if you can narrow it down by letting us know which plugin it is, that would be helpful.  Also explaining the behaviour you see.  Plugin names can be seen when you press ctrl-shift-P
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarvo Tech: i have 2 chat plugins, one is lua and the other vbscript by gammon
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: erm... Two fighting each other seems poor.  Which two?
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarvo Tech: it just says chat
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: wait, is this the zChat system?
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarvo Tech: zchat?
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: is this to chat directly to people circumventing the mud, or to log channels in the mud to another window?
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarvo Tech: yes to another window
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: make sure you have the one here: http://www.gammon.com.au/mushclient/plugins/Aardwolf/  It's Aardwolf_chats.xml and it should work without doing anything wacky to it.
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarvo Tech: thanks, ill try that out
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asparagus Tech: anyone help me with a plugin problem?
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emir Icebergovich Tech: http://forsete.iea.lth.se/status/
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: does anyone know if you can mud with some client and watch a movie at the same time?
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Umm... ?
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Why wouldn't you be able to?
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: bandwith
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: i've done it with two screens side by side
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Worach Tech: yes you can, i have a simpsons episode running right now
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: at the same time, so you dont have to alt tab
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i watch movies using that mouseover thing in vista
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: don't maximize both applications?
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: nod that will work gonf
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Just run a player and set it to always on top
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: depends where i am i use always on top player or two screens
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: power menu is a nice tool for always on top and transparency
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: IE seems to have removed my progress/loading bar from the bottom right: anyone know how to get it back ?
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rithlin Tech: Nod, go to View -----> Toolbars ------> Status Bar and make sure it is on.
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Does precipitation affect the connectivity of wireless modems?
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: As in if there's a lot of snow falling outside, will that affect my ability to connect to Wi-Fi in the vicinity?
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: uh is your router outside?
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wereturtle Tech: it might slightly, in theory it could, but it shouldn't have a significant effect
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn meows happily and prances around.
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn goes, "Hmmmm."
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: anyone know what the 3rd port on airline passenger seats are? the one next to the ones for the headphones
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wereturtle Tech: that is commonly referred to as the glory hole Redryn... try it out, noone will mind
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: headphones passed out on planes requre two plugs
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: if you plug your own headphone in, you'll only get one channel
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea, but for some reason the place where you plug those in, there's a 3rd port
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it's sort of like a triangle, with 2 3.5mm ports on one side, then the third is a 2.5mm or so
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Little Alhena Tech: anyone really good with CSS ? got a vast problem with height:100% that i'd like to solve - have example on : http://mud.alhena.org/shop2/index2.php : Current top div is 40%, bottom is 60% - i would like to make top div fixed height, and the bottom one to adjust, with overflow-auto
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: That's what it's currently doing, no?
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Little Alhena Tech: currently 2 rows, one 40%, one 60% - i'd like to get one at 200px, other getting the rest of page
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Little Alhena Tech: use of tables not possible, unfortunately
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Oh, gotcha-- and you don't want the second div to cause the entire page to scroll?
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Little Alhena Tech: correct
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Little Alhena Tech: i want it to be overflow:auto
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Does it have to be pure CSS?
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Or are you okay with a little bit of JavaScript set the height of the second div (changing based on load/resize)?
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Little Alhena Tech: involving tables is not possible, if that's the question
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Little Alhena Tech: no js either
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quorthorn Tech: It is working fine for me...
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quorthorn Tech: The scrolling appears only on the second div, as should happen with overflow: auto.
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i block javascript by default. not that it's useless, but it's vastly overused
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Little Alhena Tech: works not on firefox, works on ie & chrome
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quorthorn Tech: If it is overused, why would you block it?
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quorthorn Tech: I am running firefox.
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: call me paranoid, but I block java, javascript and cookies. If a web site can't handle that, I don't visit.
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i don't even have java installed
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: cookies can be stored only by trusted sites
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quorthorn Tech: Oh, I see what you mean. On the first div, put overflow: hidden.
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: anyway - if the site doesn't work without javascript it sucks
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Little Alhena Tech: well, an ajax shopping cart won't work without JS, indeed
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quorthorn Tech: Did you fix it, Alhena?
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: if you want to sell something for real, you should have a fallback to basics
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Little Alhena Tech: it's for my website, TG ;) selling enchants ;)
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: if it doesn't work for the customer, just means you're not interested in the customer
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: shopping carts and stuff like that is fine. i'll just whitelist it. most of the stuff on sites is just plain useless tho
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: well, you like any other business decide whether you cater for customers or not - that's always the business choice, depending on which some will and some won't deal with you :)
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dassadec Tech: how do you move the sub window in mush when the top bar is hidden
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maaloc Tech: if i have a text file filled w/ html code, how can i view it normal?
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: what..? open it.
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: drag it into a web browser?
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: What's "normal"?
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maaloc Tech: yeah i guess i'm asking how do i drag it into a web browser
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: have you tried.. file > open... ?
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Perhaps change the extension to .html if it isn't already
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maaloc Tech: i tried open with internet explorer, but that just showed me the html code
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maaloc Tech: oh that i haven't tried... 
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: it's probably .html.txt
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: windows only cares about the last period
T1/r7/2009-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maaloc Tech: yeah that worked, (bonk) thanks guys
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: is there someway you can erase all actions you got recorded on mushclient at the same time?
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: you can erase 1 at a time, but takes a long time to erase 300 triggers.
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: like #KILLALL in zmud... outta have something similar
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: click first, hold shift, click bottom?
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salvanas Tech: start a new 
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: works for my aliases
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salvanas Tech: start a new world file, maybe?
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salvanas Tech: either that or yeah, shift + PgDn works.
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh, yea, new profile would be fast
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: and provide insurace in case you change your mind
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Salvanas rapidly nods twice at Ozzy, in complete agreement.
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zax Tech: need that old profile for the aliases
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: any reccommend a pci exhaust that's not naff and weedy and noisy?
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: wonder why they're all these stupid piddly little things
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i could fart more effectively than the air they move
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: avg is a bit of a heap of crap, really, isn't it?
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: whoever released Vista should be shot
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: its the same guy that released ME
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: actually it's not, but there
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: got to wait 30 minutes while it tries to reboot, now
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: make sure you refer to microsoft as m$. that'll show em!
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i don't care, just makes me cry when i hve to work on it
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nope, force to force reset
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Worach Tech: does anybody know why my laptop doesnt always start? I press the power button, it turns on for 1-2 seconds, then it shuts down
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Worach Tech: when it does finally turn on for good the fan is spinning REALLY fast...
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elvithril Tech: hello, how do i create a spellup alias on my phone? I heard they mostly do it on pc, does someone know?
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you don't
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elvithril Tech: what do you mean?
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: muds are designed for phones
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: elvilthril, the best solution (if you insist on using phone), is to create an account on a free unix/linux server on the Internet, and to run an actual MUD client on that...then use your phone to access that server
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tiger meant aren't ;-)
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nogs
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elvithril Tech: thanx president:)
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for spelling yourself up, you can type "alias su spellup learned unaffected"...then type "su" whenever you want to spell yourself up
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: spelling others up cannot be done similarly, without running a client that can be "smart"
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elvithril Tech: i know that sir
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asparagus Tech: is there a command or alis that will flush your queue during a battle?
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, don't stack commands...
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: disconnecting and reconnecting will flush it, though
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emir Icebergovich Tech: http://forsete.iea.lth.se/status/
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: kinda neat, ice :-)
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emir Icebergovich Tech: the top left page not working is the Swedish TSOs fault... it shows all Swedish connections to neighbouring countries :P
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what's the best way to diagnose dodgy wifi connections?
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: getting 40% packet loss between the lappie and the router
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: have you checked for goblins?
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yes, no goblins present
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i've cleaned the aardvark filter, too
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 3 different drivers
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: swapped the antennae cables around
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not entirely sure what else i can try
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: anybody else using aplus.net web server?
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: any tt++ guru's ?
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: t+a guru?
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Loony Lachdanan grins evilly at Lundfu.
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyric Tech: not really a guru, but have done a lot of scripting lately. what's up?
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: i am logging certain events and have "#format {timestamp} {%M:%D:09:%t} {time}", and in my log i log the event with $timestamp afterwards.
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: but for some reason, my date / time is always 12-31-1969 16:00
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: 69 heh?
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: it's not checking the current time/date for some reason
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: lol thats few hours before start of UNIXtime
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: epoch fail :P
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: any idea why it wouldn't be listing current time ?
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyric Tech: what's your logging line?
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You.       Dashiell Tech: Perhaps you're living in the past.
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: im logging spellups, so i issue "su %0", and it logs SU - %0 - $timestamp
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: hmm, any way you could sync time with realtime first?
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: um.. #format {timestamp} {%t} {<strftime string>}
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: hah, yea that's kinda what i need to figure out.
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: dew eeet!
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: oh wait i didn't see your wordwrap. 
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: what is a proper strftime string ? like %h:%m:%s ?
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: ..why do you have %M and %D in your formatting arguement?
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: those go in the next bracket
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: tintin's format does month and day with %M & %D
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: does it? must be a new feature.. 
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: what do you want your time string to look like?
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: month:day:09:time ?
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: i just want it to have the right date/time..it is always 12/31/1969 16:00 hours.
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: sounds most likely that the variables you're passing it have no value, tbh
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: yeah, but what do you want your string to look like? i'm trying to understand what you have in your previous #format statment and it just doesn't make sense
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyric Tech: maybe try #format {timestamp} {%t} {%D:%T}
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Drtoki nods at Lyric.
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: #OK. VARIABLE {timestamp} HAS BEEN SET TO {16:00}.
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: still 16:00
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyric Tech: what version of tt++?
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: 1.98.3
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: ooook... nevermind what i said earlier about that being a new feature.
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: upgrade to at least 1.99.6
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyric Tech: yeah, i'm on 1.99.8
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: yea, might be time..
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: how do I prevent my capture windows in zmud from loading with their own command bars?
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Right-click the window, uncheck the command bar and status bar.
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: k that works for turning it off. how do I keep it from coming back next time I load zmud?
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: It shouldn't come back on if the windows load each time.
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I'd do a #SAVE anyway.
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: sacc
T1/r7/2009-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: ... mistype
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: -10
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh...
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: I should get new keyboard, h-key is not working properly :D
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: clean it
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: easier to get a new one
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nah
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: gotta love a disposable society
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on whether you like the mushy feel of $5 keyboards
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: no you don't.  You just need to get a new disposable society.
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm going for a blank das keyboard as soon as i can afford one
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: anyone know how an n-lite version of windows xp would do with a windows 7 upgrade?
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what do you think?
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: no difference, because it would be a fresh installation of windows 7 anyhow, isnt it?
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: should do just fine...all nlite should be doing is installing stuff into regular
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'd rather try the vista edition
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: i would do a fresh, but i really don't want to do all that backing up that i should have been keeping up with
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maaloc Tech: does anyone know how to enable the " ; " to mean carrage return in mush 4.43?
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: two semicolons
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maaloc Tech: test;;test
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: nvm, misunderstood the question. sorry
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: Testes, testes, 1, 2, ...3?
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: You'll go to Config and look for Command stacking.
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I think it's under something like Game Config or whatever.
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hawkings Tech: silly question, can an ipod play .avi files or do they need to be converted first?
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: have to be converted.
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: I know how to find out
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hawkings Tech: already busy converting an .avi, just wondered if it is essential
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: yes, it is :)
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hawkings Tech: thx :)
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: np
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: is there any way to save the locations, portals and directions from swalecs srun plugin? 
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they should be saved already
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: every location etc seems to be lost everytime I quit
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Richter Tech: anyone else find mush clients triggers a little buggy... seems like I need to initialize some of them every time i log in
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: do you have them set up as temporary? 
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Richter Tech: no, that box isnt checked
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: it was a long shot but worth asking -- I add all my triggers from scripts anyway, but for what it is worth, I haven't noticed any problem
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Richter Tech: maybe i'll try via script then too, thanks (and i agree it was worth asking, i checked)
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: what is best way to make portal to reme in example? where can I find the keywords for that area to add location and directions? I can run to Reme, Srun adds alias for Imperial city of Reme as Reme. and since srun takes only one word as a keyword for dires, locations and portals. how can I make mirror to point to the area that already exists in memory?
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: swalec's srun in question
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: anyone have idea?
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: well, I create a new alias called "enter_mirror" or equivalent
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: done
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: which does all the stuff associated with holding the portal
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: done
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: then you need to add the portal, so that you can use it
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: which would be srun add_portal reme enter_mirror
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: done
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: that's the problem, for some reason reme doesnt direct me to where it should
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: better still srun add_portal reme enter_portal level=30
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: which portal are you using? 2 way mirror?
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: two way mirror with id.num.
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: Swalec, is the site you mention for support for that plugin actually up?
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: Firefox is acting like there's no DNS for it.
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: oh, the documentation -- no geocities closed down, but the post that I sent also mentions srun.html which is the documentation
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: pastebin is not an ideal solution -- but I'm a bit stuck for a webhost at the moment
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: bleah, now I gotta go find that post...
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: wonder whether I could get some space on aardwolf.com?
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: srun.html http://pastebin.com/f654a4570
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: Swalec I can host you
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: Once I get webspace up here, I can probably put it up on Comcast..since it's not that big.
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: Heh, that's a host and a mirror offered in a minute. :D
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: cool
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: foren can you so srun showpath recall reme
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: yep
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I get .....recall  ->  The Imperial City of Reme Dir: enter_mirror Dis: 5
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: foren did you try srun showpath recall reme
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: shows same as yours
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: and if you type enter_mirror by hand, does it work? 
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: yep
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: but "runto reme" doesn't work?
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: foren I am afraid I am going to have to leave, cause it's late -- if you can sent me a note with as much information in it as possible, then I'll try and help
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: WTF? "The New York Times reports on a study examining how watching less TV affects average (five hours/day) TV-viewers. The results: Cutting television in half resulted in the equivalent of walking roughly eight miles/week in calories burned."
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: i guess not many people work out while watching the box?
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: Not sitting there noshing, Charneus?
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Quite possible.
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Ah, it goes on to say that people did do other things in the extra time.
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: and having to find something else to do with that time that took more energy than just sitting there?
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Apparently so.
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: "Although some participants did report getting more exercise by walking their dogs more often or signing up for a yoga class, most of the people didn't use their television-free time for scheduled physical exercise. One person used the extra time to organize photo albums, others reported reading more or playing board games with their children. Many said they spent the time doing more household chores or paying bills."
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: "But even those minor changes in activity level counted a lot. While the group that reduced television viewing burned off an additional 120 calories a day compared with the previous three weeks, the control group became even more sedentary, moving about 100 calories less than before. The additional activity that resulted from less television time is the equivalent of walking about eight miles a week."
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: tl;dr
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taype Tech: anyone know a way to turn off the bigmap window in mush?
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "bigmap auto off" and it'll stop popping up
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taype Tech: oh thank god
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taype Tech: so long away from aard and they add this damn bigmap :P
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salvanas Tech: or go to File > Plugins , and disable the bigmap window
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obadias Tech: Quick question if I may. I DL'd the client from the website and ran the "initaard" command, but for some reason all the windows are screwy and I cant move the stat window. :-(
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to move the stat window, right-click the tab for it, and select move...then use arrow keys on keyboard
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obadias Tech: Much thanks!
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obadias Tech: I guess from the layout on the website and they layout Im trying to match that the client doesnt like widescreen monitors? Or is there some way I can increase the resolution of the program?
T1/r7/2009-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obadias Tech: Ooh, nm. Seems like I screwed with my own resolution at some point, lol. Might have fixed it myself now.
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Ok, does anyone know of a good free sound effects site? Yes, I've googled, but the ones I've looked at really suck.
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I guess not. :P
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: i'm only good with porn related questions, sorrry
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Oh.
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emir Icebergovich Tech: what's the best porn site that my cats would be intrested in?
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: ask kalista
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: anyone else having trouble accessing twitter pages?
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: no, i'm not a 14 year old girl
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: heh, neither am i.
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: the twitter status blog doesn't even work
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: hmm..it turns out some Iranian group hacked twitter
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: who can services need to be enabled for drive sharing on xp?
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: server, workstation, and computer browser would be recommended
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: though technically, just server is required.
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: disconcerting thing is there is no workstation service
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: hmm, i was just guessing based on win7 services, haven't used xp in a while
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no computer browser, either, and that's an issue
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: i tried to remember the XP names, but then i realised i reallocated those brain cells to something that mattered... like beer!
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: you shouldn't have any problem with services unless you go through and randomly disable them
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ahh, ms client isn't installed
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: tis why
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: now to try and get this poxy belkin piece of wrankle working
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: ah, now we're onto the crux of the problem.
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: different machine :-)
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's rather helpfully claiming it hasn't got adequate irq resources. What does it think this is, 1994?
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: irq's are serious business
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: is that the PC or the router?
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: pc
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: laptop pc with a cardbus wnic
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: no IRQ sharing?
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: has to share with the cardbus controller it seems
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: sharing is perfectly fine, as long as it's designed that way
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if it were fine, it wouldn't have a problem getting an irq
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: have you tried shifting it or whatever is taking it's irq?
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nope, just turned off the modem to see if i can free one for it
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: well yeah, that works
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: isn't going well. wont' boot with the card in now
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: how bixarre
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: use linux herp derp
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that sounds like a sexually trasmitted disease
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: or, you could use a newer, less annoying windows :P
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: Which Windows are you using?
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: which windows am i NOT using?
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: (answer is ME, wouldn't touch that)
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: in this particular case the problem is dodgy hardware, not windows
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: yeah, but sometimes different OS's can work around dodgy hardware
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: still, that laptop does sound ancient...
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: Windows has all the patches?
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it is oldish, inspiron 5100. only thing i haven't installed am doing so now is the dedicated chipset drivers from intel
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: uh, chipset drivers should be the FIRST thing you install...
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they're already installed
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: . o O (  ) Habasi goes, "Heh."
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BoogieMan Meka Tech: Having an issue with the #TELEPORT command on zmud. I am trying to write a simple script which captures the runto "area" information and #TE to the first room of that area when I arrive. The problem I am having is that the teleport command requires the zone name to be in quotes (i.e. #TE 1 "Zone Name"). I can't get zmud to expand a variable within quotes, and thus far I can't find a substitute for the quotes with the teleport command. One fix that hasn't worked is #TE 1 ~"@area_name~". The tilda force the quotes to display, and allow the variable to expand, but this solution causes the #TE command to not function. Any creative suggestions would be appreciated.
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: use brackets instead
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BoogieMan Meka Tech: I've used squiggly brackets with no use - hang on and I'll try normal brackets
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: zmud uses brackets to group things together
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Livonya Tech: use #find when you arrive?
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BoogieMan Meka Tech: unbelievable - the one thing I didn't try. That worked. Thank you very much Mordenzein.
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BoogieMan Meka Tech: if you go to recall, I've got a thank-you tp
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: most of the time, {} is the same as ""
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BoogieMan Meka Tech: {} didn't work [] did though
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: oh, yeah, [] = forced expansion
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: so ~{~area_name~} doesn't work?
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Wow... Last night, Twitter was hijacked by the "Iranian Cyber Army"; while there've been no confirmed password leaks or anything of the sort, now seems to us like a great time to change up your passwords. 
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: death to all twits?!
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: or you should consider better passwords than lightbulb and chicken :)
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Foren: It's not so much as that. It's the fact that if the website was hacked, there easily could have been a password dump.
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HalTaffin Tech: wouldn't the passwords be hashed?
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Here's the reason why...
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: "The Twitter blog reported that the problem was due to compromised DNS records, meaning that the hackers were able to redirect user requests for Twitter.com to their own serverwhich served up the page in the screenshot above. Although the redirect doesn't appear to have done anything malicious beyond thatand a DNS hijack doesn't mean the hackers would have access to Twitter's databasethe hackers could just as easily easily have set up a fake login page and harvested plenty of passwords phishing-style if they had wanted to. Which is whyeven though this DNS hijack appears to have been relatively benignwe think now's a very good time to do a little password refreshing (particularly if you use your Twitter password elsewhere)."
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nobody cares aboot twatter
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: people might be using the same pwd for all IM type applications
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: if not ALL apps
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus keeps 27 different passwords.
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: i got enough pwds that i need an excel sheet :P
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HalTaffin Tech: Ok, thanks Charneus, that makes sense. I don't think about hacking methods much :)
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i have a single pw algorithm
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus grins evilly.
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so i'm using a same password everwhere, but it varies by the site
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: heh, dial 1 for aardwolf, dial 2 for your bank account :P
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: same password everywhere doesnt mean same username everywhere
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: that would be just dagnir like
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drooler Tech: hi tech, im trying to make a autobid trigger in mush client if have "* is auctioning * Num * ). Current bid is *." as the trigger and "bid %3" as the action but its not working
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Doesn't appear that you're capturing anything so that it HAS a %3.
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drooler Tech: ah, what to fix?
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Usually, you'd do something like * is auctioning * ~(Level *, Num (*)~), then do a bid %1
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drooler Tech: ok but i dont understand why the %1 wouldnt be the persons name
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Because you're not capturing the person's name.
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Not capturing it as a parameter, rather.
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drooler Tech: ohhh, i thought the asterixes captured things
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: No... they just act as wild cards.
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drooler Tech: ok i see, so how do i pick which wildcard to capture?
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: Just use %n in place of the wild cards ...
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drooler Tech: ok now i have "* is auctioning * Num %n ). Current bid is *." and bid %1
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drooler Tech: still no joy :(
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: You still need to capture it as a parameter... :\
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Try doing (%n) instead of just %n...
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drooler Tech: ok that didnt work... maybe the ). at the end of the number ive got wrong?
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Try putting an escape character before it.
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drooler Tech: man trying to figure this regex stuff out is making me feel retarded
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: sure it wasn't the name?
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drooler Tech: according to the help files/forum "* Num (\d+) *" should work
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Except you're adding a space where there need not be one.
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: You're doing Num (\d+) * instead of Num (\d+)*
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: And really, you don't need to even have that last * (or anything before it) because regardless of the line, if it has Num 123, it's going to match. You'll probably want to be a bit more strict with it, such as using ^(?:\w+ )?\w+ is auctioning .+ \(Level \d+, Num (\d+)\). Current bid is \d+.$, then do bid %1
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drooler Tech: thanks! ill try that
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drooler Tech: something is still off, but i cant tell how to fix it. using http://www.regextester.com/ shows the whole line is captured? 
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drooler Tech: i think i might be getting closer with "^(.*?) is auctioning (.*?) \(Level (%d+)\, Num (%d+)\)\. Current bid is (.*?)\.$"
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Why, oh why, the hell do you have %d+ instead of \d+?
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: And yes, the whole line SHOULD be captured in regex tester.
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: But group 1 would contain ONLY the bid number.
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drooler Tech: ah... 
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drooler Tech: now trying "^(.*?) is auctioning (.*?) \(Level \d+\, Num (%d+)\)\. Current bid is (.*?)\.$"
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Drooler: Mine should work just fine for you. *shrug*
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drooler Tech: thanks for the help charneus... 
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods.
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drooler Tech: success! "^.+ is auctioning .+ Num (\d+).+$" worked
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drooler Tech: dont know why lol
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: of course it did
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drooler Tech: replay
T1/r7/2009-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: WinXP: I've got something in my add/rem programs menu that doesn't actually exist on my comp anymore. any ideas how to remove it from that menu? or what to google to find out ?
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silvara Tech: Anyone able to remind me what built-in variable thingie in cMUD is for direction? As in %d is numbers, %w is a word etc.
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silvara Tech: Nevermind. Think I found it.
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: does anyone know the best method of updating the mushclient personalized for aard to 4.43 so I can use the mini window plug ins. Its been awhile since I've messed with this client and I just cant remember all the steps I need. a link covering this would be amazing.
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: anyone here got good internet searching skillz? I'm trying to find out if the Sony FW56E VAIO laptop has a blu-ray drive and a 1920x1080 resolution, but I can't find squat about it so far, other than it's in stock in a shitload of places but Sony has nothing about it on their UK website
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I've heard that Mr Google is fairly god
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I've heard that Mr Google is fairly good
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: i think danj knows :P
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: yes, it does
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: as far as i can tell...
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: http://www.nextag.co.uk/SONY-PORTABLE-COMPUTER-VAIO-1594413448/uk/prices-html?nxtg=5dd90a1c0d14-9E20395CBD781F78
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that dont show bluray or resolution
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: hmm, i just read specs from http://hardware.kelkoo.nl/p-laptops-113501/sony-vaio-fw-19577770
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: shows 1920x1080 and bluray reader
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: really?
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: Featuring a large screen features Full HD resolution and a true 16:9
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: An integrated Blu-ray Disc Drive
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: 16:9 could also be 1280x720 :P
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: it would be hilarious to see a laptop that big with such a low res screen though :D
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: Danj, http://cgi.ebay.com/BRAND-NEW-SONY-VAIO-VGN-FW56E-INTEL-CORE-2-DUO-LAPTOP_W0QQitemZ300378810820QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Computing_Laptops_EH?hash=item45eff8e9c4 has most of the specs, unlike anything else I've found on first pass.
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: sony only lists a VGN-FW560F not E for some reason
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: E = Euro maybe? im on US site
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: most definately
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Livonya Tech: anyone know a decent spellup script for Zmud?
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Me Wantee Freggle Tech: tried the spellup command yet?
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Livonya Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: #ALIAS spellup {~spellup 1 210 60 100}
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: look for da_spellup and wjs_core, Livonya, Google should find them.
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: it's not great, but it's better than mudside...
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yashiro's spellup script is my fav
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: http://conradshome.com/files/v3_ospellup.zip is another
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: danj: i think this is the australian version of the same laptop - http://www.sony.com.au/product/vgn-fw56gf
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: need someone with stronger googlefu than me
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Livonya Tech: where would I find yashiros spellup script?
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no idea. jfgi
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: someone who can find out why a pc with only very recently installed xp is restarting when you shut it down instead of turning off
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: yea.. and the US version... http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/model-documents.pl?mdl=VGNFW560F&LOC=3
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: heh that's the first time i've seen that abbreviation :D
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: and a plugin enable or disable trigger groups in a different plugin ?
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: can a plugin enable or disable trigger groups in a different plugin ?
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: windows config for what the off switch is for farkyss?
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: ugh i can't construct sentences
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: funniest thing i've read all night :D
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: ain't that, elrast
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: been through all the obvious and some non-obvious stuff
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: shuts down in safe mode ok which leads me to believe it's a driver issue somewhere
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: what level of ACPI is set in the bios?
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: and have you installed chipset drivers?
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: all drivers are fine, no options in bios to change
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nothing in the error log
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: no stop messages on shutdown
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: will it shutdown from safe mode?
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: yes, ozzy darling :-) that's why it's annoying me
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: so i know it's not a hardware fault
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: well, "know" is a strong word.
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: considering safe mode doesn't use all hardware
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: but could be a driver
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: have you disabled automatic restart on error?
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: here is the normal chain for it: http://www.aumha.org/win5/a/shtdwnxp.php
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: yes, done that, checked through everything on that guide, ozzy
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: which includes what Lach said
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: hrm
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: and yes, disabled autorestart - it's not bluescreening on shutdown, so no error to observe
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: it really sounds like a buggy apm/acpi bios to me.
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: what mobo?
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nodnod
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: updated your mobo bios?
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: clear cmos?
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: hmm, could try a bios clear. No updated bios available
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: how about an older bios?
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i had one do that to me, an Asus... older bios worked
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: it's unfortunate, when they don't fix all the bugs in bios before EOL
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nodnod
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that's what MMTool is for :P
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it's a packard bell machine, although it's a gigabyte board, it's an oem board that's not listed or supported on their site
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i'll be back in a bit, found a couple of registry things to check
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: oh. i love that kettle of fish.
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: does ctrl+f1 work?
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: packard h3ll :(
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: like on giga boards?
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: should load a linux live cd, see if it shutsdown
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: would show OS vs mobo
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: that's not a bad idea either - although linux ignores acpi tables.
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: since they found early on that they can't be trusted...
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: oh? im not a linux guru by any means :P
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: just what i woulda tried, did try :P
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: ok, registry bits didn't work
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: linux cd wouldn't prove anything as it shuts down in safe mode
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: it would prove something - that linux > xp :P
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: will try clearing cmos next
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it could never prove that
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: it would never need to, of course.
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: It couldn't prove it, but it could add support to the argument. :)
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: well, i'm out of ideas
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: going to backtrack the last apps that were installed and see if i can pin it down
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: for those who care, it was the soundcard driver installed by windows update
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: heh, I hate when "updates" break other things.
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: well in it' defence, i hadn't found the correct driver for it before, but it was obviously the wrong one. have since found the right one and sorted it
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: that's good. The only thing I need to do yet on the Linux box is attach my printer to it--and the fact that it's an HP printer should help considerably there. :)
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: so anyone ever find a commandline way to toggle color syntax in zmud/cmud?
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: not i
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: other than a tilde when you type it in, no...
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hawkings Tech: district 9 good?
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hawkings Tech: oops, miss
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: does anyone have/know where to get a bag sort script for zmud?
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: internet? :D
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: that's a safe bet
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: was looking for a more specific answer but i'll try the internet
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: anyone who's using mushclient?
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: you are
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: how did you know what
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: got a question regarding spellup scripts resp. aliases
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bag sort scripts just got a whole lot easier to make, though :-)
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: i am trying to set up an spellup alias.
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: how's that, abe?  new flag?
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the invdata stuff
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: i got the alias working
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: to spell any player
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: i know, abe. but if someone has one ready i won't bother writing it myself
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: but i dont know how to repeat failed spells on the same player again
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iyethar Tech: invdata is kewl
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lane, just use a spellup script that already includes that feature
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: where?
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: you mean the aardspellup script?
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the guy that wrote MUSHclient wrote one which is on the mushclient.com site...the player bast did some improvements to it...basts stuff can be found at http://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/Intro
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: thanks a lot :)
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and yes, it was Aardwolf_Spellups, it includes spelling up others
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: really?
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: didnt know
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: syntax: spellup <target>?
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type spellup help...iirc that gives you syntax
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Anyone get tintin++ to work on Ubuntu 9.10?
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: hey guys. anyone have a gq cycle predictor for mush? just to say which gqs ranges have already taken place this cycle and which are likely next :) much appreciated!
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: is it not random?
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: it's random, but you can cross out which ones already took place in the current cycle.
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: so it gets less random as you go along within a cycle
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: well, I just saw the same range twice in a row...
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: exactly the same?
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no you didn't
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I think so -- I was in range both times
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: last was 25-36, then was 171-185, then was 181-195...
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: There are overlapping ranges, though.
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: being in range twice occurs very often
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are 3 ranges for every level
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: abelinc "just" is a bit wider than that -- just in the last 3 hours
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: if 2 global quests with the exact same levels come in a row it means the cycle started anew in the middle of those 2
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, "just" going back all of todays still says no
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Stomp nods at Darkwing Duckbat.
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Swalec shrugs
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I am sure that you are right Abe
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: you cant predict which global quest is going to be next howveer you can narrow down some
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cain killd Abelinc teaches Swalec about "gq hist"
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the last 100 GQs are shown
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: for example there is a 100% chance that 2 global quests out of the next 8 will be for SH range
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: how thrilling -- 93-104 and 97-108 would have been the ones that I was thinking off
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Abelinc - There is not 100% chance that there will be that many more gq. 100% probability is rare, if possible at all.
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Except there seems to be 100% probability I will die again in the next 10 minutes...
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: arnica, not sure I understood what you were trying to say there...
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I didn't list anything as 100%, duckbat did...but other than a MUD crash/reboot, which will reset the GQ cycle, yes, when you know the cycles, you can have 100% chances
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Darkwing Duckbat nods.
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: nod, would just be nice to get one for mush
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Stomp smiles happily.
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: post a request on tech board, someone may write it
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: hum. that's a good idea. or one of the many who have one might share it :)
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I don't use MUSH, so while I can help with some scripting questions, writing entire plugins is more time than I'm willing to invest ;-)
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Anyone have experience using ubuntu 9.10?
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: yeah
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Do you know why i can't install/run tintin? I dowloaded and compiled both needed libraries, but nada.
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: did you try using aptitude?
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Erm, what is that?
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: sudo apt-get install tintin++
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: aptitude is the in-built automated application installer for ubuntu (and some other linux systems)
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: you can search the software archives using 'apt-cache search <search term>'
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Nod, tried. It give me th i get this --> E: Couldn't find package tintin
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: that's because the package seems to be called 'tintin++'
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Nod, i did sudo apt-get install tintin+= tand thats the message i got.
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: tintin++*
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mosch Tech: hey, I have an MCCP plug in that I use with GoSClient, i've reinstalled the client, but when it starts up, it says initialising.. then doesn't start..
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mosch Tech: am I missing something?
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: Chicomecoatl: What errors do you get when you compile from source and try to run it?
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: are your sources up to date?  could try sudo apt-get update
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Running update now, lets see if that works. Drtoki: alot of errors, too many to list and none that i know what they mean.
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: the first one may give a decent clue
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Ill look after update finishes, don't wanna make it do too much at once.
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: aptitude search tintin++
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: iirc it's tt++ in the repo
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: it's tintin++ on my 9.10, just checked that i can install using that (i didn't actually install it, though)
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Nod, its called tt++
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Ok, after i updated it seems the sudo apt-get install tt++ is working
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: if the versions in your repos is below 1.99.4, I'd suggest you comple and install from source anyway.
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: iirc, aptitude repos are the most out of date in regards to tintin
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Ok, works, thanks guys.
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: many packages have informal package maintainers, which you can use
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: i used an older tt version anyways.
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: you also used wintin, iirc, and wintin scripts don't always translate directly to tintin.. I don't know how you chose to script your stuff but that's an issue to look out for
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: 1.99.5-1 is in ubuntu universe
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: everytime i try to start up an application, I get a popup that says access violation at 0x----- (tried to write to 0x----), program terminated
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: what about this application?
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: that sounds bad
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: it just wouldn't start up
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocopops Tech: is it a matter of just uninstall and reinstall?
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: is there a way to record input in mush?
T1/r7/2009-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: mapper records directions, and you can add special commands to it...that's probably all there is
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: what is the command to flash a window in mushclient?
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: No command needed. You just stand up, pull down your pants, and stand close to the screen so MUSH is likely able to see it.
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A bright, shiny gold halo appears over Charitable Charneus's head.
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: i found one called flashwindow which is basically what i want but i would like it to keep flashing until i actually maximize the window
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: stuck without sound while visiting relatives and want something visual when i'm in another window
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: isn't that inside mush's configuration
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: do you knwo where? i don't see it
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's a FlashIcon function...
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: yeah but in my test it appears to flash exactly once
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: some other programs that flash when something happens keep flashing until you actually maximize them
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have your trigger repeat it once per second until you clear a variable
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: throw it through a loop, with a while NotAnsweredYet variable
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: is there a function for mouseover/click or window focus, something liek that?
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can make clickable stuff, yes
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: like the help window is hotlink clickable iir
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err iirc
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: does the Turbo C and C++ v2 IDE (developped for Dos6) likely to run in a Windows 98se window, or is the "Lock" going to spoil the fun
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rozhea Tech: is there any way to change the colour of the spouse channel?
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Help colorset
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: Sure, Rozhea. help colorset.
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rozhea Tech: shot. Thanx.
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trunx Tech: how do you edit scripts on MUSH/client ? hmmm !
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: can aardwolf be played using a mobile phone?
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trunx Tech: yes , but its not as good as PC
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trunx Tech: You play through an application wich you chat through called mxit
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if playing from a phone, mxit is the LAST way to try it...
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: Thats not the only way, but you can yes.
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: you can play with any telnet client
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mxit is truly the second-crappiest option for playing from a phone
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: there are much better apps than MXiT to play using your phone tho
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: screw that, you can telnet directly to aard with MidpSSH or the like.
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: okay and what other ways are there?
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: midpssh, pocketputty, etc
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: any telnet app will work
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: whish one is most comfortable to use?
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if doing that, the best option is to make an account on a free linux/unix server
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: iPhone has an app called iMud that works decently
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then telnet/ssh to that server from the phone...that will let you run a full client
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: even when on a PC, I MUD using tinyfugue...MUDding from a phone, telnetting to a unix server, means that I have 100% of my scripts available
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: so can i download these to my symbian cell or does it have to be windows mobile only?
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are options available for all phones that can run apps
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: or any cell with wifi would do?
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: MidpSSH will work on any phone that can run Java games...
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: finding a free shell server that will actually let yoou install tk and make an external telnet connection is not so easy these days.
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: whether wifi or g3/cmda doesn't really matter...but phones that wifi are generally more capable/smart
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: not sure about PocketPutty
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Laughing Lacrimosa nods at Arnica.
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: okay thanx gyus...
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: putty is available for symbian
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: putty is a really nice telnet/ssh app...it's what I use on PC
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: so i'll go in for using midpSSH right?
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: if Putty's available, it's probably better.
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirk Tech: is putty simple to use?
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: MidpSSH can be a bit clunky. Ask Abe about putty
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: which is the simplest one?
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KinPYtterP Moolb Tech: putty is very simple
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Raunaq has mutated into the form of Eukanuba to pull out their Sacred Banana!
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: thnx....
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I've never used putty on cell, don't have any cells smart enough...I just have regular cells, nothing smart, so my only experience on cell is midpssh
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but putty's a well-developed telnet/ssh app across a few platforms
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tunst Tech: isnt it a bit difficult to play a MUD on a cell?
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: so do you find midpSSH easy to use?
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for both, if you try connecting directly to Aard, remember to select telnet connection instead of ssh (which is their default)
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're both easy to use...with of course the limitations that you're still using the cell...how much screen you get to see, how easily/quickly you input commands, etc..
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: MidpSSH isn't bad, but I only log in from my cell to run quests and chat in ftalk. It's slow to input commands unless you write aliases that allow you to type 2-3 letters. You're kind of limited by how fast you can text.
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: having a qwerty keyboard definitely helps, otherwise you'll really want to spend some time making shorthand aliases for lots of stuff...you won't want to use the cell for general/normal MUDding, cells just aren't suitable
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since my home server is always connected to Aard and running my client, I just ssh to it, resume my screen, and go
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tunst Tech: you dont get kicked off for inactivity?
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, my client sends a carriage return every 10 minutes
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: okay done installing midpSSH on ma cell now what do i put the host name n all as?
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aardmud.org
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: then do i put my own user name and password of aardwolf
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't have to put user/pass into the connect part, but can do it as the login screen comes up
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: okay can you just tell me the whole process as to how do i start playing.
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: on mine, I need to go to the menu and select type instead of input, because I hate dropping away from the screen to input commands in mid-fight
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: i mean when i download midpssh then what do i doto start playing aardwolf?
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to where your phone has apps, to select midpssh
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tell it you want to connect, that you want it to be a telnet connection, and that the host is aardmud.org
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: okay done but before host: there is one more box what do i fill in that?
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can leave port empty, or put 23
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: ya now it say whether you want to allow this app to continue ...and gain net access . It will cost you money...
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: costing you money would depend on your cell package, yes...if you have unlimited data, then it doesn't cost...if you pay for data, then it will cost
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: thanx everybody....
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: but now it's saying connection to aardmud.org...|||
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: what now?
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: g2g
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Ugh. The java process that keeps eating up my RAM and CPU is starting to piss me off today... *sigh*
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what process is that?
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: The java.exe one. :P Using jdownloader. Never had a problem until today. *sigh*
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Keeps spiking the CPU to 100%, and RAM usage is up to 78k right now.
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Well, 77,692k. :P
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: don't you think th eproblem mightbe you don't know what it is?
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: end it
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I've done that, but jdownloader requires it, so if I want to finish downloading what I'm downloading, I have to suffer.
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: is there a command to clear a window in cmud before capturing the text to it
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: #CLR
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: thankyou
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Anyone know a simple way to make DOS/Windows Executable files, such as the emulators i have, able to run on Ubuntu 9.10?
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: Wine would be one answer...
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: wine
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: you havent heard of wine?
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Ok, installing wine, anything i should know about it?
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: It doesn't always work fine, but should be OK for most programs.
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: yeah...read the documentation
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: is there a command to take the strings of "is not affected by" down to one
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: probably just one of charneus' scripts.
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Referring to 'So and so is unaffected by your punch!' ?
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: yep
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: No command mudside.
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: ah ok i'll code it in then
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Any ideas why my terminal bell would suddenly stop working? I checked in terminal, its enabled, sound output on all parts is 100%, and it works a little bit ago (all other sounds still work)
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DevlynSyde Tech: cmud not working in windows 7?
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: cmud is working in windows 7
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: if it's not working for you, you installed wrong.
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: in terms of under-the-hood, 7 = Vista and CMud was designed pretty much with Vista as its base target.
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DevlynSyde Tech: odd. its definitely not running
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: did you install it in admin mode?  What directory did you choose for your data?
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: after installation, did you run it in admin?  There's some last-minute stuff it has to do, I think.
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DevlynSyde Tech: def installing in admin mode, running in admin mode
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: what about data directory?  Even in admin mode, you're not allowed to write data to the system directories (ie, program files).  MS says so.
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DevlynSyde Tech: so i need to install it outside of program files?
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not the program, just the world files
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: whats the command to enter in command prompt to show the value of an alias or variable without opening up zmud settings?
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: #VAR variablename, or #ALIAS aliasname.
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: of course... just type it without an argument and it displays... i feel special
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DevlynSyde Tech: doesn't work when i put world files in C:\games either
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: With Vista and Windows 7 if you take ownership of the folder you have Full access to the files..  other wise even logged in as Admin you may be denied privliges...
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: did you install with c:\games as the choice, or did you just use windows explorer to create and move files by hand?
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: and, for that matter, why are you avoiding the default setting that places it in My Documents/My Games/CMud?
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DevlynSyde Tech: i installed to C:\program files\cmud.. now installing to C:\games and world files to C:\games
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DevlynSyde Tech: i've done that as well
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: well, lots of people are not having any issues, maybe try looking around the zuggsoft.com forums?
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: it's not like there's no talking about CMud and Win7 there.
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DevlynSyde Tech: thanks. nothing really on forums. already looked through. when i run cmud it runs it, but then nothing pops up at all?
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DevlynSyde Tech: no errors or anything
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: does it show in the task/process manager (CTRL-ALT-DEL, if it's the same as in XP)?  If it does, perhaps you simply have a bad cmud.cfg or cmud.ini or whatever it's called.
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DevlynSyde Tech: it shows up for a minute, then goes away
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DevlynSyde Tech: the beta worked. odd
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DevlynSyde Tech: thank you for your help
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: hmm, possibly a sqlite v3 issue, then
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: as in the public version uses v2 and Win7 stopped supporting it.
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Really should just do default option, which is %Documents%\My Games\CMUD :P
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DevlynSyde Tech: thats what i did from the getgo.
T1/r7/2009-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Hmm.. I've never had a problem with the installations.
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: is there a mudside fix to not seeing commands on the mud that were entered in the command line like cast tornado or backstab thief
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, that's your client doing it
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: sounds like your client side echo
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: ah
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: cmud how do i turn that off?
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: if your using zmud, its under Options|General|then select Scripting and I think its the first option
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: I mean cmud
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Talleron claps at Dino Bot Davos's performance.
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: wonderful friend
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dino Bot Davos goes to Talleron: "No Problem!"
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: in MUSHclient, how do I make an alias take an argument? Or is that possible?
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hawkings Tech: like alias k <mob name> = backstab <mob name>?
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: yeah
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hawkings Tech: alias k * = send "backstab %1"
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: slightly different application, but essentially the same requirement. Awesome, thanks
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hawkings Tech: you don't the send bit thou
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hawkings Tech: but the arugment u pass into * will be available in %1
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hawkings Tech: so, alias k * = backstab %1 should also work
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: I figured it was something simple I was missing. :p
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hawkings beams a smile at Laughing Lacrimosa.
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: and to escape a backslash so it prints?
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaul Tech: any apache people?
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaul Tech: was wondering how to share an apache local website over a network
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: putting stuff under public_html doesn't work?
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaul Tech: just put everything under www/public_html? How would another computer on the network access it though without a DNS?
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: ip number
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaul Tech: dynamic ip though would be annoying to enter a new one every time no?
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: dyndns.org
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: dynamic ip's on a network? weird
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaul Tech: would it not be? I don't know much about ips... it's a dynamic comcast connection through a router
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaul Tech: tried cjb.net already but that doesn't seem to work. Unless 24.22.40.xxx isn't a valid ip I should be using
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: ip from router to isp will usually be dynamic, but from router to pc's use static ip's
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: you just need to know what those are :P
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaul Tech: how do I find that out :o
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: well my router can tell me...
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: by going to it's ip
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: not for everything, Yaomiqui. I keep a small pool of dynamic addresses open  for guests, but the rest of the machines are using static IPs.
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: well to get a network going, you need static ip's
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: and most routers use static ip's
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaul Tech: well on my router i see DCHP server: (on enable) and then "starting ip address" then options for 3 static dns...
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: that's outgoing
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: you need the network settings page or whatever
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: on mine it's called "local network"
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: Gaul, what brand of router do you have?
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaul Tech: advanced routing-- gateway/router ?
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaul Tech: it's a linksys
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: you're looking for the DHCP client list.
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: let me log into mine and I can walk you through. :)
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaul Tech: cool thanks
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: on my mushclient at home the info channel shows up in the chat window, but not here. What do I need to enable on mush to make the info channel be captured in the chat window?
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladavar Tech: anyone useing Cmud about that might be able to help me sort out something I just screwed uP?
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: ask away
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: DON'T!
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: let us guess!
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: rofl Dagnir
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: is there a prize ?
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladavar Tech: I was looking at the aard mush client trying to figure out how to do something for someone.
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladavar Tech: i open cmud back up and it's all messed up
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: tags off
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: yep
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: You're a good guesser Dagnir
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladavar Tech: thank you very much
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladavar Tech: that was quite annoying
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladavar Tech: now i see where the mush client pulls all that info from though.
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: zmud: %trimleft removes leading/trailing spaces.  does zmud have something equivalent to %padleft ?
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: which would add spaces
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyleron Tech: Just use ?
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyleron Tech: Er, %concat
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyleron Tech: Or %format, depending on what you're wanting it for
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: %format is almost as much of a pita as #psub :(
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: but I'll look into them a bit
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: trying to dynamically align a local echo, Eq+Sp Bonus from the stats command, vertically
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: Anyone know a lot about Mac OS X?
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Genosse Sselnoisiv Tech: Is there a way to make firefox always on top?
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: nuke microsoft?
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Genosse Sselnoisiv Tech: Tried that
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: window manager settings
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: run it in Linux 
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: in ubuntu you can make any window 'always on top'
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: that's what I was saying, Anipopo ;)
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I'm sure that these are not the most useful answers ever
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Genosse Sselnoisiv is agreeing with that Swalec person again...
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: 'ubuntu' isn't what's allowing to be always on top.  it's the wm that's running
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I'm sure that 
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: sure
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: meh, probably not...but he didn't specify which OS...
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Genosse Sselnoisiv Tech: was hoping to accomplish it without installing winroll
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagfib Tech: hmm ... anyone use cmud ?
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyleron Tech: Yeah
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: what is mxit?
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Trash
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: help mxit
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: something that lowers your IQ by 200%
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagfib Tech: i feel kinda retarded ... but why is my prompt showing a bunch of gobbledegook for a couple of lines after it? ... also why is it showing some wierd tag before chat channels?
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trunx Tech: help mxit
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Genosse Sselnoisiv Tech: did you use mushclient?
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "tags off"
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: statmon?
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagfib Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Genosse Sselnoisiv Tech: the extra line after your prompt is statmon, type tags to see which you have turned on
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyleron Tech: So, there you go... didn't have to do with CMUD at all :P
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: statmon will handle the {stats} stuff, but won't handle the {chan ch=tech} stuff...tags off handles both
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I'd hate to hear what Jaws does with statmon
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hawkings Tech: is there a easy way to paste the name of an item onto a channel as it appears in your inventory? incl colour
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hawkings Tech: using mush client
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Google search for recursion returns: Did you mean: recursion
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: emerging humour?!
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Googling 'loneliest number' returns the Google calculator displaying 1. :P
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: that sounds like something wolfram alpha would do
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods.
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: I particularly like this one: Google "the answer to life, the universe, and everything", Google calculator returns... 42. :P
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that one never gets old
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir nods quietly to himself.  What a wacko.
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus smirks at Seltsimees Dagnir's saying.
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i hate how the "i'm feeling lucky" button is a link to wikipedia now
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus smirks.
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ruins great searches like "weapons of mass destruction" and "french military victories"
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: i'm guessing to load a zmud script into cmud i need to change the /s into #s ?
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Komrad Kessel Tech: since when does a zmud script not use #? not sure what you mean
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you sure it's not a tinyfugue script you're looking at?
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: If you changed the default commands in zMUD, then you can change them in CMUD to match zMUD. Then, all you have to do is make all the 'minor' fixes for your scripts. :)
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Er, default special characters.
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Komrad Kessel Tech: sorry, man, I know no cmud stuff, but zmud script precursors are # keys
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: i'm guessing to load a zmud script into cmud i need to change the /s into #s ?
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: zmud scripts don't use /s...
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: zmud and cmud both use # as the command character...
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: confused then. haven't played in forever. how do i load any scripts. say the ones on your info abe?
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: isn't it just #load file.tf ?
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I don't use z/cmud...my scripts aren't for them
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my scripts are for tinyfugue
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: ah hah! lol
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: totally different program
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Er, you can't just load scripts for a different client into other clients.
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Komrad Kessel Tech: your scripts are rubbish and need ani to rewqrite them
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Komrad Kessel Tech: or so it has been said
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: abesca
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: oops
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus smirks at Komrad Kessel's saying.
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: lol. yeah i know that. didn't read there :P lol
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: which brand of gfx cards allow you to install a 3rd party cooler w/o voiding warranty?
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: or brands
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: i remember at least one of the manufacturer used to allow that
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piesang Tech: good bye
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: does anyone have a club3d 5750 card?
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: How do you export your MUSHClient config to use on another machine?
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: online stores = big suck in, you just keep on adding to the frigging cart
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: is there a way to figure out if i have the Telnet opts  turned on ?
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: tags telopts on. :P
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Typing 'tags' will tell you.
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: ummm still having probs...  how exactly do i install that telnet_options.lua   file ?
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: i type telopts on and nothing happens.... what am i doing wrong ?
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Type tags telopts on. :P
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: But just type 'tags' to see if you don't already have it on.
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: ok they are no on.. lets see if this plugin works.... now...
T1/r7/2009-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: teleopts is on but i cant get the Aardwolf EQ Equipment plugin to work.....
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: has anyone tried to build a 'surface' type interface diy?
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: is anyone familiar with CMUD? I am having trouble getting the upgrade to install
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gladavar grins evily as his norton liscens just expires.  "thank god.  I'm done with them."
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: ewww who uses norton
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir acks!
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Worach Tech: whats wrong with norton?
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladavar Tech: I did a long time ago so i gave them a shot again when I purchased this pc total waste of money.
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: better tell me what's /right/ with norton
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: useless recourse hog
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: bloated pile of junk
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: wish there was recourse
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: it ties up your pc so you have to buy more pc
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: bleh, can't spell any more :P
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: better get another coffee
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: oh wait. thats windows
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'll start speaking esto soon ;)
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: speaking of bloatware, when will MS or google write a new flash? 
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Like SVG? Or like Silverlight?
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i hope flash dies with html5
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: Heh. And what about youtube?
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: html5
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it already supports it
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: if sites start offering all streams with html5 i'd uninstall flash completely
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: html5 is like 10 years away tho
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir bonks Malina on the head for being such an UTTER moron.
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: back under your bridge, troll!
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Don  Arxe Tech: anyone here have a jailbroken ipod?
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Don  Arxe Tech: NO jailbroken ipod/iphone user here? =/
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: Mine is
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Don  Arxe Tech: what did you use to jailbreak, davos?
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arismis Tech: anyone have a good exp/round plugin for mushclient?
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: exp/round?
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: exp/sec maybe?
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arismis Tech: like exp/round of fighting?
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: like, per round of fighting?
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arismis Tech: exp/sec works too
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arismis Tech: w/e is a good metric for figuring out what the most time efficient kills are
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: Don't have anything for MUSH.  Sorry
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: check the mushclient.com forums, plugin section, there is a plugin there that traps exp per hour
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: tracks*
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arismis Tech: thx
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: which works better with vista cmud or zmud?
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: cmud
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PaperTiger Panzer Tech: cmud I hear
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talleron Tech: cmud
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: thanks!
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: What's the webpage with the channel capture script for zmud on it?
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: not-porn.com
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: make that http://www.not-porn.com/Aardwolf
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: i prefer http://www.not-aardwolf.com/Porn
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: Sorry, 'www.not-aardwolf.com' does not exist or is not available. ... dang thought it would work
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: a commercial opportunity, surely!
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: is the link to aardmush spellup plugin broken?
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: use the "other" one, umm..
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: oop mis
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: noob question. in zmud with #cap is there a way to remove the tag?
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: try psub
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: just gag it...#SUB {}
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: thanks. lol
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: its actually a difficult thing to do, but it can be done
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: easier in cmud
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: i'm in cmud
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: how is it difficult?
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: not having used cmud in years?
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: #TR {^(~{chan ch=*~})(*)} {#PSUB {} %x1;#CAP Personal}
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: what's wrong with #SUB {}? that's what i use
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: sub is kludgy
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: thanks davos
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: np Malina
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: that will remove it from both your main and cap window actually
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: nod. much better
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dino Bot Davos grins evilly.
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Probably a stupid question, but when, on a unix system, a type tail -f <blah> in a terminal, what does "-f" stand for?
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Don  Arxe Tech: not stupid, cuz i dont even know ;D
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: I forget, if I ever knew
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: I know what it does, just not what it symbolizes, lol.
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Don  Arxe Tech: anyone hear jailbreak their ipod with blackra1n?
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: type man tail in a terminal and it should give you a manual page that describes the various flags and find -f in the list
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Perhaps it would be in the man files?
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: follow
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: what's jailbreaking?
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: hurdur
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: jinx, Gregor!
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: -f, --follow[={name|descriptor}]
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: There's that answer.
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: there you go. :)
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Don  Arxe Tech: its like hacking a psp, except it an ipod =P
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: man is kinda like help <command> here
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Don  Arxe Tech: allowing the ipod to user homebrew aplications and stuff
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chicomecoatl nods at Laughing Lacrimosa.
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ser Gregor turns a peculiar shade of green from the terrible jinx afflicting him.
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: man and apropos. they will serve you well!
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: of help --<blah>
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: or*
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: one of the most useful commands in Unix next to mv, cp, dd, and rm
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: and cd
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: I find cd and ./configure useful too
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: ls!
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: and ls
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: I'd argue the most useful commands are awk and sed :P
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: I go for man, but...
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: those aren't bad, but you can use vi or ed or emacs, too.
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Drtoki rapidly nods twice at LART Timeghost, in complete agreement.
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: grep is a good one, too.
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Still learning all of them, just now switched to using such commands because i recently switched to Ubuntu after years of windows and only windows.
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: more like failbuntu!
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: looooool
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: Heh.
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: how are you liking Ubuntu now? I've been using it for most things since August.
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: learn vim too
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: I personally like Ubuntu, everything is free.
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: most linux distros are free...
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: if you go to school to be an "RN" (in USA), what's RN?
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: nurse
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: registered nurse
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: registered nurse
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Registered Nurse
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: almost ALL Linux implementations are free, but Ubuntu does a better job of easing the transition from Windows...
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: aaah... thanks
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: that shoul'da been obvious... i'm frickin' married to one :P
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: it's a 4-year (usually) degree in nursing.
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: lol, yeah, it should have..
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: I'd recommend SuSE over Ubuntu any day tho
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: I'd argue the opposite.  Ubuntu holds your hand so much there's no transition! You don't learn linux at all.
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Lol, don't tell her you didn't know or you will get friendly with the couch.
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: I'd recommend FreeBSD over any Linux any day tho
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I've seen SuSe in Enterprise environments, but never Ubuntu
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: for a complete newbie, Ubuntu makes it a little easier...
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: but I think ubuntu is good for the end yser
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: FreeBSD isn't for the average Windows user at all
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Complete newbie == chicomecoatl.
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: but the "bad" thing about Linux/BSD (etc) is that it got flavours... and those differ
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: nor is linux
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: ubuntu is very nice also if you do want to try to 'use' it like a linux distro, however
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: depending on the flavour, linux is
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I used slackware a lot in the past
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: with FreeBSD, cmon, to update the kernel to have to "make world" still - get real.
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LART Timeghost Tech: it's excellent as a server system, but as a desktop - I'd personally never use it
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: as I said, flavours :P
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: SuSE provides paid tech support, Pleiades...which is one of the things most enterprise-level companies want to have before they deploy any OS to their network
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: if it aint broken, don't fix :P
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: My only fear when i switched was losing everything, because when i ran it from a live CD it couldn't find my external HD, but when i took the leap and installed it, it all worked fine once i installed wine.
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: openBSD > freeBSD
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Drtoki stares at the sky.
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: OpenSolaris is awsome too...
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: yeah, it doesn't really like external HDs from the LiveCD, but I think my favorite part about it is that it takes FAR less space.
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: but as a Linux-want-to-try, do Wubi, that is an installer that lets you try a real Ubuntu (U as in gnome, K as in KDE, X as in the rat thingie) as a "program", install/reboot/test/uninstall - or go all way and get rid of windows and migrate your *buntu install
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Nod, i tried Wubi but it gave me issues. Woudn't boot right for some reason.
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: Chicomecoatl want hands on help w/ wubi i can help you if you want... and any *buntu version for that matter :P
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: You barely need to use Wubi to verify that drivers are available anymore.
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: I'm set now, i just burned the CD image and uninstalled windows and replaced it with Ubuntu.
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: Lacrimosa, wubi and drivers?
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: It used to be almost a required step to make sure you wouldn't break your system.
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I really liked using slackware in the past, it was a good way to learn Linux
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: Lacrimosa aah, yeah... i've never broken windows that way, but managed to get a uninstallable wubi version... but now it's pretty stable
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: got some raid/ide sata issues still though
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: Yeah, I'm not using SATA yet, though, so not such a big thing. The only real challenge I had was an old graphics card that refused to work in anything higher than 640x480...but I needed to upgrade anyway, so I found one on the HCL that I got shipped here for $30. (This also let me upgrade from a 32MB to a 512MB, which is lovely...)
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: the $30 was worth less to me than the aggravation it would take to get the old one working...plus the HUGE upgrade.
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: something about the driver the old one needed not supporting the newer xorg-server.. :p That's what I get for having 10-year-old hardware...
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: 10 years in technology is like living in the stone age.
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: I know. It's also what I had that still worked and couldn't really afford to replace until recently...
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: I put Ubuntu on my old system to test it out and give it a thorough eval instead of just LiveCD... It's doing well there, and I've been using it more and more often, so I'll likely switch the main box to Ubuntu sometime soon, might keep dual-boot for a couple of programs I haven't been able to replace yet...
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: ubuntu ftw
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: I'm looking to add Ubuntu to my hard disk, but the partition table is unreadable so I can't do any more tinkering ... any ideas?
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: format and repartition the whole thing? ^^ and then JUST use ubuntu =D
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: NO :P That's a Windows approach :P
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: might as well.
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: No, actually, I want to keep a small Vista partition, most of my stuff, my Debian partition and my existing /home :P
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: Maybe remove the recovery partitions, but otherwise leave as much untouched as possible.
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ser Gregor Tech: Maybe you should figure out why you can't read the partitions ^^
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: It's odd, I used parted magic to resize the partitions before this ... and now I can't seem to get my partitions read any more :(
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: Yeah, been thinking about it.
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: For those who care, via Lifehacker: Previously mentioned web service Backupify backs up all your online accounts (Gmail, Twitter, Facebook, Flickr, and a ton more) to the cloud, normally for a nominal feebut until January 31, 2009, all Backupify accounts will be free with unlimited storage. After this period, the service will go back to a paid pricing structure. Anyone who signs up for an account during this free period, however, will remain freeand unlimitedforever. So if you've been considering the service (or feel the need to backup your Gmail, Twitter, Facebook, Flickr, Wordpress, or many other supported online accounts), now is the time to sign up. If you don't see your service listed, sign up anywaythey've announced that YouTube and Linkedin backups are coming soon, and they plan to continue to launch support for more services. It can't hurtafter all, it doesn't get much cheaper than free. [Backupify via ZDNet]
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: tl:dr
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Drtoki rapidly nods twice at Felt, in complete agreement.
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus snickers softly.
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: HelpMePlz! Trurien rests in a corner and mutters 'spam' quietly to himself.
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: that hurt my eyes :)
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Short version: If you want unlimited storage to back up all your online accounts, sign up with Backupify now. It's free (and will remain free for you) until January 31st.
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Whereupon they start billing you and you can't cancel ;)
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arismis Tech: whats their revenue model?
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: nais!  Thank you for the tl;dr version
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: how much do they charge afterwards?
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Anyone who signs up for an account during this free period, however, will remain freeand unlimitedforever.
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Jan 2009, or 2010?
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: 2010... Tlaloc...
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: 2009 is paaaast!
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: what about them arbitrarily closing the 'free' accounts?
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Just check it out at backupify.com. :P
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: seems quite silly
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: and the name looks like Backup-Iffy
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus slaps Semper Flat.
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: why in the hell there aint easy way to add triggers, use variables OR add aliases in mush...***** for christmas  
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: that backupify website is already overloaded.
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Wow, Word might be gone by mid-Jan.  
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: Isn't that just the 'new' Word?
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: orl
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: y
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: They'll come up with a fixed version, I'm sure.
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods.
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Copyright infringement or something to that effect with their format.
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: They will, but they should just pay i4i.
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: triggers are easy, CTRL-SHIFT-8 or something
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It was the coding from i4i in dealing with XML format.
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: does anyone know the message you see when you get a bonus trivia point from a quest off the top of their heads?
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: ** Your recieve a bonus trivia point**
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: ** Your recieve a bonus trivia point **
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: No
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: i before e even after c?
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: i just got two triv points!!
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: ** You gain a bonus trivia point **
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: probably 'You receive', but yes.
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Nod, spelling screw up
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: thanks all
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: and I think duckbat may have the winner
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: "a " or a number, with pluraity on "points"
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rau Tech: duckbat is closer
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: you wont get multiple trivia points :P
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rau Tech: but its ** You gain a bonus trivia point! **
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: why not?  You get multiples of everything else.
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Genosse Sselnoisiv Tech: They're too valuable
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micoaya Tech: You killed a Triv bonus mob!! Triv point added.
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: exclamation point after the 'point', too, for the quest one.
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micoaya Tech: I got mine right
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's what rau clarified
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: I missed that part, sorry.
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: it's, like, a whole two lines above me.
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fae Wino Joelz Tech: after talking with the head of our comp sci dept, i am taking an intermediate level java course next semester. i dont have any java experience but do know c++ (and some perl). anyone know a good catch-up java book designed for someone with some programming knowledge?
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Ugh, anyone know how to update Vuze on Ubuntu 9.10? The version from sudo apt-get install vuze is outdated and no longer supported.
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Ugh, anyone know how to update Vuze on Ubuntu 9.10? The version from sudo apt-get install vuze is outdated and no longer supported.qi
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: wooops
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Not sure how that happened, but oh well.
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: how do I write my own plugins?
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: mush has a plugin wizard you can use.
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: could you teach me hoe to use that?
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: it will walk you through it file > plugin wizard iirc
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: yes, but what do i type in triggers , etc
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: The triggers you wish to convert into a plugin.
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: actually i don't know what triggers and all are?
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Drtoki buries her face in her hand and sighs, shaking her head.
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: I don't use mush anymore, but i think under game, you have the option to write your triggers. The thin box at the top is the trigger phrase (what is sent from the mud that you want to react to) and the lower, larger box is what you want it to fo.
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: do*
T1/r7/2009-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: When i still used mush i didn't like using the GUI part of it anyways, so i just made aliases to make aliases, triggers, macros etc
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: whats the command in cmud to clear a line that you #gag?
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: somebody teach me to create plugins ... plz ...(frm the basics)
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: RTFM
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: what is RTFM?
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Can barely teach a mxitard to use the toilet, nevermind program a mud client
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chicomecoatl snickers with Starling about their shared secret.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: that many people using mxit now?
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: I use mushclient..
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: By your manner of typing, we can only assume you previously used mxit, or just don't care enough to type properly.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: no m using mushclient.... and have never used any other software....
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: don't even know what mxit  is?
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: hello!!
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: anybody there?
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Malina P
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: yup
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: somebody plz tell me what are triggers, scripts, variables and finally how to create a plugin..
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: do you know what a variable is?
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: triggers are self-activating pieces of code
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: variables are places to store data
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It's easier to program things if you do it in the bathtub
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: okay.. but do i have to write them?
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: not necessarily.  You can use code from other people, but ultimately you have to install it first
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: so how do i create my desired plugin?
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: first, build all your triggers, aliases, variables, etc that you'll need
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: n how do i build 'em..
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: when you get it all working, use the Plugin Wizard to put all of that into a plugin
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: that's what helpfiles are for
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: at the very least, there's even a website with a set of forums that discusses mushclient.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: then again.. does he use mushclient? or which?
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: yup .. mushclient
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: mush is plugin-heavy.  I automatically assume that anyone who mentions plugins is using mushclient, until they say otherwise
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: as i said in gossip.. ask DIRECT questions here and people are MORE than helpful
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: nod mord.. my bad
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Raunauc - start slow. Build an alias. Just make it do one command when you use a diffenerntly named command.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: no apologies needed.  Mush does things differently than CMud, their users will use different sets of terms
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Then make an alias that casts a spell at any mob, by using a a variable parameter  in the alias.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: mind asking what are alias...
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: If you get that far, and can't figure out where to get the nasweers to your next question, come back and ask here.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: rauniq, I would advise you to do some basic reading, it may all make more sense then
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Hint - Type better than me.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: an alias allows you to type something such as "web" and it will do "c web", it's a way of shortening what you type.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: what they're saying raunag.. is exactly what i said in gossip. you need to ask directed questions in tech.. and have spent time trying to do something yourself
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: okay where do i start frm?
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: try  something like googling 'script mushclient'
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: from the beginning.  Learn your interface, then learn how to build code.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: since you said you are using mushclient...
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/mushclient/mushclient.htm
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: people here.. altho very helpful.. aren't here for same reason as newbie :)
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: visited the aardmud site but was of no help ... as i couldn't do all that..
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raunaq Tech: when i went to plugins wizard then alias in that .. it shows nothin ??
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: So. I have my mush client, latest version, installed into "documents" folder. I am on Windows 7. I am having problems getting plug ins to work. Like, I just tried to install the miniwindow health bar, did it just like I would have back 5 months ago
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: but it isnt working. no errors, just doesnt appear.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: any suggestions?
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madrad Tech: I just created this world file though. are there any triggers or anything I need? I have the telnet.lua file and the stats detector plug in installed.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Lol, on Li/U nix machines, does xsnow really serve any purpose other than kicks and giggles?
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yes, if your mother asks if you decorated for xmas, you can say yes.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chicomecoatl goes, "Heh."
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Any other cool (pointless) things like that i can experiment with?
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: what's the difference between M$ Works and M$ Office ?
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: one is crap, the other is overpriced?
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: the name?
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: mm, they looked the same to me too. new comp with both on it and I'm like wtf it's the same freakin thing
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: all I needed. thanks
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: It's a lousier version of Office, is Works.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: nods, and I have enterprise key for office so works was already looking to go
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avenge Tech: Ive gone to search for some plugins for mushclient, and when I install the improved health bar plugin, it does'nt work
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: probably need to modify it to match your prompt
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avenge Tech: how do I do that
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: there is a good miniwindow one that I like -- you need an  up to date mushclient though
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avenge Tech: I have version 4.43
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: tech I've been using the one here http://www.mushclient.com/forum/?id=9575 
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: which seems to work for me
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avenge Tech: where Ok, does it give the installation procedure?
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: looks like it
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: -
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avenge Tech: ok Ill check it out
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: try typing mushclient install plugin into google -- basically, you save it in the right place
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: and enable it with the GUI
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avenge Tech: ok, I first had to get the stats detector plugin, I installed it and I got this error
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avenge Tech: Line   18: Plugin "id" field must be unique for this world (problem in this file)
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: well, it looks like you already have a similar plugin installed
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avenge Tech: I downloaded mushclient from www.aardwolf.com - so it may be in conflict with another plugin?
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: do you see Stats_Detector in your plugin list?
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: in File->Plugins
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avenge Tech: xStats_detector
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: nods, you already have it, go to the next step
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avenge Tech: Line   14: Plugin requires MUSHclient version 4.4 or above (problem in this file). I have aardwolf 4.43
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avenge Tech: Line   14: Plugin requires MUSHclient version 4.4 or above (problem in this file). I have Mushclient 4.43 sorry
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: go to mushclient.com and download the latest version, install it over what you have
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you downloaded from aard's site, then you have 4.33, not 4.43
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avenge Tech: Oh my god. thanx. didn't notice it. ok where can I get 4.43
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: www.mushclient.com
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's good to start with the aard 4.33, as that installs lots of basic plugins that these other ones use
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avenge Tech: I got the Hpbar to work, new problem, I thought it was a seperate window
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avenge Tech: Is there any way that I can put the Improved health bar into another world?
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: there is another health bar which is not aard specific -- you might need to fiddle with the prompt
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avenge Tech: hehe gonna need help on that one. Im not famaliar with lua coding. I can program in delphi though
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: it's just a regexp, and there is advice on the website
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mean Old Jagad Tech: anyone have the problem of catchtells not working when using the Aard mushclient?
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mean Old Jagad Tech: and more importantly: is there a fix
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: nope
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what do you mean not working?
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: telltags sidesteps catchtells
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mean Old Jagad Tech: I have catchtells on, and tells go through anyway
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no it doesn't
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: yes it does with the tells tag on
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's behaving as Lasher intends...they're still being caught
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: have you typed replay?
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: well, kind of, it sneds the tells through anyway b/c it assumes you have scripts for it
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mean Old Jagad Tech: OK, but they replay automatically
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not bypassed
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: they are being caught, they just SHOW too
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: catchtells still works
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's how it's supposed to work, and has nothing to do with Aard mushclient
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: . o O (  ) Habasi seems to think you have the right idea.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: abe is correct
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mean Old Jagad Tech: catchtells used to store the tells *until* you typed replay
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mean Old Jagad Tech: now it no longer does
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: if you want it to work otherwise type tags tells off
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and that still works
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: nods, the mush probably just auto set telltags, like it does with some other tags
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes it does, jagad
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the catch part still works
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: and yes, it still catches
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: being caught is separate from being displayed
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: with tell tags on the tells go through as normal, but they are also still in 'replay' until you use replay
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're being caught so you can type replay...they're also send straight to you...but since the first part is still happening, catchtells is just as useful as it ever was
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: afaik
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: how do i insert a lot of data into a mysql database if i dont have remote access, only have phpmyadmin but it just times out for any file larger than 100 kb?
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mean Old Jagad Tech: I got it to do what I wanted.. thanks Davos
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: np
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, so you totally disabled capture
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Komrad Kessel Tech: shame he didn't disable your face!
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Komrad Kessel pounds you into a bloody mass. 
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: instead of using it exactly as you've always wanted, which you could've done without changing anything
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: Abe, if it works for him, why do you care what he did?  Just leave it alone
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: any ideas ?
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're thinking that you're seeing a problem that doesn't actually exist...
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mean Old Jagad Tech: actually, what I wanted is the way it used to be, where I was forced to type replay to read my tells.. Davos showed me how to do that..
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: . o O (  ) Habasi snickers with Dino Bot Davos about their shared secret.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you still type replay to read your tells
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mean Old Jagad Tech: I didn't need a gospel reading to answer my question, with you trying to force me to see things your way
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that never changed
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: Abe, shut up for christs sake.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mean Old Jagad Tech: no wonder I have this damn channel turned off
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: davos, no
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, learning is always a horrible thing
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: You're compounding the problem.  Which is already fixed.  Just because you want him to see it your way.  Go away, you are little to no help.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: has nothing to do with seeing it my way, has to do with definition of the problem
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: Duckbat, I used to know of a program that would do that, but I can't think of it offhand, Ill look around.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: just leave it alone, it's no longer an issue
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: thanks davos
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: Duckbat: http://www.ozerov.de/bigdump.php
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: Maybe that will do what you need.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: also load data infile command was disabled
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: ok ill check it out
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arfwolf Tech: is there any mud client that supports mccp that is small/portable?  i.e. in the way that putty is just one file and can be ran without running an installer, and like telnet
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arfwolf Tech: I've now done 729 quests without mccp enabled over 2 months :s   and starting to realize how many qps I'm missing out on
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i use to run zmud off a flash drive
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arfwolf Tech: my work's already mad I MUD at work.... if they see a program that looks like zmud, they'll hate on me and say I installed software on the systems
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: dont mud at work? *inno
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arfwolf Tech: I already bypassed the admin passwords with ERD Commander and overridden their terrible opendns "filtering system" lol so I don't know how much further I can push them
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arfwolf Tech: not mudding from work is ntot an option :p
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: get a free unix/linux shell account somewhere, throw a CLI client like tinyfugue or tintin++ on it
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then from the work computer (also good for cell users), use any telnet program like putty to connect to it
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: tt++ doesn't have mccp though does it?
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: both have mccp
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: oh right i'm thinking of the free zmud
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arfwolf Tech: hmmm... does tintin++ compile for windows?  I've used it before, it wasn't bad.  Changing sessions was kinda odd to watch lol
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tintin++ does compile for windows, yes
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but as mentioned, an advantage of this is that you can run it on a third party computer...then access it from anywhere, to have a consistent full-on MUD client no matter where you are...anywhere you can raw telnet, you can have full functionality
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladavar Tech: what do i need to do to make responses from the mud not appear on the same line as my prompt?  I'm using cmud.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: end your prompt in %c
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladavar Tech: %c in the prompt dosen't seem to be cutting it
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: you sometimes still get stuff there
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Do you have compression turned on? that will omit blank lines.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: COMPACT      Remove the blank line between commands
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladavar Tech: let me check the compression thing I'm still feeling cmud out.  I just got back into mudding and figured i'd switch from zmud to cmud
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Its a mud side command, just type compact.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladavar Tech: yeah that was on somehow.   thanks
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Welcome.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Compact shouldn't affect %c in a prompt. %c is for a carriage return.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Therefore nothing should be on the prompt line. I have compact on and my prompt ends with %c, so I don't know what the problem is. :P
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladavar Tech: the compact seemed to fix it but before that i added %c %c at the end and that seemed to work it out too so either way I think i can avoid the issue now.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Keep in mind that some clients can interpret %c to mean something other than what you're wanting it to do, so you may need to escape it. To check to see if it's truly ending in %c, type 'config' and look at your pompt line.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladavar Tech: it was being inclued
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Ok.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladavar Tech: Take two.  it appears my problem has reappeared. it wasn't a problem with the prompt  it seems that the noexp tag is the culprit.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, yes, some flags show up after the prompt...with the definition of "the prompt" being including the %c
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: for those of us who missed round 1, what's your problem ?
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladavar Tech: i guess tag isn't the correct term but the noexp warning thing
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so it becomes <prompt stuff> <cr from %c> <then the flag> <then MUD>
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladavar Tech: i'll just gag that out but figured i'd pass on my noobness experience
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can turn off the notification altogether if you want iirc
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: nodnod, just type noflag
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: err, no thats not the right one.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or promptflag?
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: thats it, promptflag
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: I missed your problem but 'promptflags' will toggle noexp off, along with quiet/deaf
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladavar Tech: was thinking of just gagging it and making a warning within cmud for it/
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: that may solve whatever it is but you'll just have to be aware of your current state
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the problem was that his commands/MUD output were on the same line as part of his prompt...%c doesn't fix that for prompt flags
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: ahh
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since they're after the sum total of prompt, so they're after the %c
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: hackish but remove the %c and turn compact mode off
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: thanks. hate that the noexp thing is red like quest mob target
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: but that's just as annoying imo
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rig Tech: Anyone know how to rebind the numpad keys in CMUD?
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: Numlock?
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rig Tech: No, like rebind what they do. Like right now NUM7 goes NW.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rig Tech: But I want it to send UP instead.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rig Tech: And I want NUM5 to be 'scan' instead of 'look.'
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: oh... those are in the hidden packages
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: forgot how to see them one sec
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: You can override it with #KEY Num7 {whatever you want it to do}
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: view|show hidden packages
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: erm default packages
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: don't need to edit the default package though
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: then its in the English keypad package
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: making a new macro on those keys overrides it
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rig Tech: I tried that it didn't seem to. Let me try again.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: I would use my method.  better to only have 1 macro of each key vs trying to stack priority
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rig Tech: Thanks Davos that worked.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: np
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladavar Tech: gauges won't work right in CMUD for some strange reason if you set up an alias in place of the variable it should have been...  I really should put my contacts in and pay better attention.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: say that again?
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: gauges don't accept aliases, if you'
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: err, if you are trying to fill in the max/low/expression values
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladavar Tech: yep i've been setting here for 10 minutes trying to figure out what the problem was.  I took a closer look and saw that two of the fields that I was trying to use were set up as aliases instead of variables.  meaning that i defined the value in an alias instead of a variable. *stupid aura*
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Is there a shell command to make a terminal bell? It quit working in my client, so i want to see if it works elsewhere. All other sounds works.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladavar Tech: actually it's been longer than ten minutes but I won't say how long.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gladavar puts the lid back on his mason jar and returns it to the freezer.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: echo -e "\a"
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: also, man echo..
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Interesting, no sound.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're accessing from windows?
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: maybe you have visible bell enabled?
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: is there a flash?
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Wonder why everything but terminal bell works, and when i right click the terminal and change profile settings, it says termianl bell is enabled.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: no flash
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Abe: Ubunto 9.10
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Ubuntu*
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: Drtoki, sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: Chosig. What..?
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, chosig, he was asking whether the menubar flashes on beep...
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox grins.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: aah
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: visual beep
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not whether flashplayer was an option on linux
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: just read "flash" :P
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zaryna Tech: - h 17
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox rips his clothes off and parades naked around the room!
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cain killd Abelinc covers his eyes
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cover your eyes, Chicomecoatl is exposing himself to Chosig!  EWWWW!
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chicomecoatl snorts derisively at Amarufox.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Anyone have the message for a lasertag declarations, the "<something> 3 minutes <something" one?
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: laser -h
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: no, you cant bot ltag
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Heh,
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: It just got announced.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chicomecoatl snickers with Dino Bot Davos about their shared secret.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I was flipping through YouTube and came across an awesome plugin setup done on MUSHclient that Nick Gammon presenting on how to play a mud on it.  He was showing some interesting new mini-windows with Aardwolf as the mud.  I was wondering will this be the new plugin setup for Aardwolf on MUSHclient soon.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: Anyone been able to log on to MSN using Pidgin since the last version update?
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: I changed to empathy once the error came on
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: And it worked for you?
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: but to the question, nope
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: empathy works
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: OK, I'll try that then. I uninstalled it to use pidgin ... can't remember why.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: on MSN on Pidgin right now.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: Lacrimosa: version, distro?
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: ubuntu karmic, pidgin 2.6.4
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: Gah, Ubuntu... still haven't been able to get that working.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: But maybe I'll just see if there are new debs for pidgin.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: Actually, Ubuntu works on my system very easily-- the only real issue I had was the nvidia driver for my (ancient) graphics card, which prompted me to spend $30 and go from a 32MB to 512MB graphics card that worked out of the box. *shrug*
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: Trurien: pidgin works fine for me as well. archlinux, pidgin 2.6.4
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: Right, will see.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: Lacrimosa: my issue's just the partition thing I haven't solved.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: I did have some problems with Trillian a week or so ago on the Windows box--seemed to be due to a Microsoft thing rather than a Pidgin-created issue.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: what partition thing?
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: They upgraded the MSN version, I was asked to upgrade to continue when I logged on Vista.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: I refused.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: Lacrimosa: the unreadable partition table thing I mentioned a few days ago (yesterday?) :P
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: And you said I might as well just format it :)
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: tried testdisk?
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: Is that a distro?
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: I've been wondering, what benefit could Microsoft get from requiring it's own client that shows advertisements over custom software in it's own service? I cant see anything beneficial on it...
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: It gets ... uh ... to elbow other companies into marketing over MSN and promote MSN as a marketing medium?
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: global domination of countries and people alike? NWO? :D
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: Now I don't recall offhand which file I should edit if I needed apt not to update certain packages ... pinning, I think it was called.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: not sure offhand on that. Google is your friend on that one, though, or should be.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: HelpMePlz! Trurien rapidly nods twice at Laughing Lacrimosa, in complete agreement.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: Google is almost always your friend when it comes to OS issues
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: ask google about disadvantages of using chrome over ie or firefox :)
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: I said almost always, not ALWAYS
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: I didnt see that word...always :D
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: how do i turn off the display of invon  data ?
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: tag inventory off
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type invmon :P
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I think it's a tag, no?
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the tags are different
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Ah!
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tags inv just says {inventory} around the list when you type "i"
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: invmon tells you the moment your inventory contents change
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Ohh
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: typing the word invon  did the trick.. thanks
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I didn't remember this coming in
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: This will replace lots of triggers..
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: its lag as far as im concerned....  i need a NEW computer..... *frown*
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I MUD from a 233 MHz computer with 64MBs RAM ;-)
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: got invmon turned on ???
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I've got lots of stuff turned on
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Got a (probably) stupid question, but what do i do with the Linux version of Vuze once i downloaded it? Archive manager doesn't do it itself, so i'm assuming i have to do /something/, likely from terminal ... just don't know what.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Ubuntu 9.10 if that helps.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: install it?
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: what's the package extension?
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: .tar.bz2
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Extract it first, probably
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Nod, i did.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You probably downloaded source code, right?
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: then compile it..
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Doesn't say if its source or precompiled. Came from this site --> http://azureus.sourceforge.net/
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Big button right in the middle saying "download now"
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: try sudo make install <packageName>
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: vuze is horrid anyway
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: I vote for rtorrent.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Transmission isn't bad, and it's probably already installed
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: use deluge, should be able to get it with apt-get
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: have you checked out Transmission, which comes IN the Ubuntu 9.10 distro?
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: it works pretty well.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik is agreeing with that Laughing Lacrimosa person again...
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Transmission: Just sudo apt-get instamm transmission?
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Transmission: Just sudo apt-get install* transmission?
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: It's preinstalled on Ubuntu 9.10, unless you customized your installation
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: Lacrimosa said it came with ubuntu so I'm assuming you already have it?
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: try Applications>Internet>Transmission
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: I'm not finding it, and i didn't customize the installation.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: ok, didn't look in internet tab
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: you kinda need internet to use bittorrent.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: chico, for vuze, when you extracted it, it left you with a vuze folder...in that folder was a file "README.txt"...
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: nodnod, transmission found, i'll look quick and see if i still prefer vuze.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: roflot reading readmes and new to linux
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: Yeah, always look for a readme when you download software...
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: @not
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Abe: Both the readme and install files are 0 bytes, already tried.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: that's odd.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Try downloading the jar instead of the source
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you had an issue decompressing...I only know about the file because I used the link you gave
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: shoulda downloaded again or dif mirror or compiled version of it.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: and then run in with java -jar <name of jar file>
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: Also, have you tried getting it through Synaptic?
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the source is just the jar in an archive
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: No, the source needs to be compiled to build the jar
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's the jar, a plugins folder, and a wrapper script to start it
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Well, i did get the vuze from sudo aot-get install vuze, but its outdated, no longer supported, and won't find any torrents.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Jar is java "binary"
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: apt*
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: It comes with the jar, so you wouldn't have to build it then, no?
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: just use ktorrent
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you click download, the only option is the jar
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: rtorrent > ktorrent
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: vuze is horrid.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: azureus was good like, 5 years ago
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: I don't know what im doing in transmission ... i have to get the torrent first before i can download it? I like where i could just type a movie in the search in vuze and it would do the searching for me.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Its not that i can't do it the long way, im just too lazy to check multiple sites for the same hash to speed the download up.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: icky. i def don't care for built in searches
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: its more so reading comments and verifying files.
T1/r7/2009-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: and thats what firefox search engine thing is there for :)
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twyst Tech: anyone know how to set a trigger in mushclient
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twyst Tech: my specific problem is I only want to match the first 3 or so words 
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twyst Tech: the rest is variable and worhtless
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: game > configure > configure triggers
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: trigger phrase: <what you want matched>*
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twyst Tech: with the <> or without?
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: without
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twyst Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: <this means insert real words here>
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alavesa Tech: what client can i DL to play this game on a mac? to use mccp
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: not really any decent clients for mac
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: i run client on windows installed in vmware
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alavesa Tech: is running windows on mac a pain?
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: no
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alavesa Tech: ok maybe i will just do that then....
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: i use the unity mode in vmware, my mud client window is just like any other app window on mac
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: no need to reboot etc. of course you'll need vmware or parallels and windows licence
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: i tried using atlantis and couple other mac client but they were terrible
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: tinyfugue is the best client for a mac
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: tinyfugue is the best client for any OS
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: i'd imagine if you don't need gui and stuff
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: tf has steep learning curve tho
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: mm yeah, if you have reasonable technical ability it might be worth a shot
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alavesa Tech: ya? im not very good with comp tech
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: i'd go for some windows client in that case...
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alavesa Tech: thank you very much for your help :)
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: you could try running a windows mud client with crossover, zmud doesn't seem to work thou
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: they have a trial
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: mush client might work, haven't tried
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: with crossover you don't need to install windows
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: never got zmud working with crossover. dunno aboot mush
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: Dag, you a canuck?
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: mida?
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minki Tech: is the areas on aardwolf alone more updated than on the website right ?
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: in zmud i have this capture reorder alias..  when i reorder it reorders by bringing capture windows to focus using #window <capture name> it works fine untill i come to bring main window back to focus it creates a new tab and creates a whole new main window with all the guages how do i fix this ? or somehow name the main window as "main" ?
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladavar Tech: my keyboard is acting up and the enter key is starting to stick.  is there a way to clear out a bunch of commands if it sticks and spams something?
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: #connect
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladavar Tech: ok thanks
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: What is used to leave say 3 spaces in a zmud say
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: #say
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I want them aligned
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: tildes?
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: just use #say "   "
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: Oh good
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: what is the function to check for negative value ?
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: less than
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: zmud function
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: will just use > < 0
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Firenze Tech: Where Can I download a FREE Happy Holidays or Christmas Card to Email Out..and Pay NO subscription money etc...
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: no need to download it, just search for free ecard. (blue Mountain Cards and even Hallmark have free ones...they just aren't the super nice ones.
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: dont subject people you know to blue mountain!!!
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladavar Tech: I've been playing around with my campaign window in cmud today.  I've managed to get it to capture the mob/location line without the   "You still have to kill" part and that made the window a good deal more compact.  Is there a way I can split the line in the window now contain the mob and area into two seperate lines?  One for the mob with a new line below it for the area?
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: are you talking about stacking so it would be line 1
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: then like 2 here?
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: like=line
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladavar Tech: yeah turn one line into two lines stacked on top of each other
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: use %cr
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: between the variable used to send the mob name and the area to your second screen
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tianshi Tech: Any mushclient users know if it's possible to remove the input field for the stats/map/chat windows (besides dragging it to as small as possible)
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Remove the plugin
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they default to being nearly-nonexistent...
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if your issue is typing in the wrong spot when one is in focus, there's a setting for that
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tianshi Tech: Well, my laptop screen is really small, so every pixel saved would help
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: file -> global prefs, general tab...all typing goes to command window
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: where is it in c/zmud where you toggle option to copy color codes?
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: will this expression   match="^a([1-20])\s*\=\s*(.+)$     match on  the input a3  ?
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: [1-20] ?!  why not just [0-9]
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: i want it to go up to 20 ?
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: if you need more numbers, [0-9]+
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: like this ?
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: like this ? match="^a([1-9]+)\s*\=\s*(.+)$"
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: you could also clean up the (.*) part. what do you want to capture exactly?
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: also, \s* is not the same as \s[*]
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: match="^a([1-9]+)\s*\=\s*(.+)$"  example a1=anystring , a2=a diffent string , a20= string with spaces etc...
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: so I don't know your intentions
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Young Athran Tech: dinner.. i will read any answer... in the history.. thanks
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: ok well.. you really don't need everything after the "="  You should have a right side variable
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: beauty of regexp is that it doesn't need to match the entire string, just part of it
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Perhaps ^a[0-9]{1,2}\s*=\s*(.+)$  -- though that's about what you have.
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: ^a([0-9]+)\s*[=]
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: you can recall everything to the right of the "=" with %PR or whatever the equivalent is for your platform
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladavar Tech: any clue as to how much of a slow down, if any at I will notice if I log multiple windows at the same time in CMUD?
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: none
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladavar Tech: ok thanks
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladavar Tech: and to make CMUD auto log each window I want when I start up, I could make a new event under each window using the #log command to point to the file I want the log saved to?  That sound about right?
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladavar Tech: an onconnect event that is
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Anyone know a program for linuz (specifically Ubunto 9.10) to write movie torrents to Blank Dvd+R? Every time i try i get some "it is not possible to write witht he set of plugins" in brasero, and am odd message in k3b about file types and missing info (the movies run fine on my PC, just can't burn them)
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: linux*
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: erm, and Ubuntu*
T1/r7/2009-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arfwolf Tech: does toast do it?  check out the project page
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: stupid person question. but in zmud what would i set so i don't go afk on here? :(
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: A timer to send #CR every so often.
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Every 10 minutes would be good. :)
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: #ALARM +10:00 {#CR}
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: #timer 600
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: I wouldn't use +, that causes the alarm to delete itself
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Er, it's #ALARM -10:00, sorry.
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: so #alarm -10:10 #cr ?
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: #ALARM -10:00 {#CR}, yes.
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: #ALARM -10:00 {give trivia amarufox} is also a fine alternative
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox blinks innocently.
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: thanx :)
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: so that's how you get your trivia points.. lol
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: if somehow a window got pushed over is there any way to cascade it where i can do something with it in vista? right and left clicking on the tab on the bottom is giving me nothing
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: is there a list of aard channels and their tag name?
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zefoj Heafmo Tech: type channel
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: doh!
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Angelic Skyluke Tech: hi all :) My sis wants to buy a laptop, and she will use Illustrator, Photoshop, InDesign and QuardXpress, I was wondering if an ATI HD 4570 was enough. Someone has an idea about it ? ;)
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: mac :P
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: mac if professional, pc if hobby
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: sounds professional in nature
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: brother finding out about it? doesnt sound quite professional for me
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: good point :)
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Angelic Skyluke Tech: well, mac is expensive :p
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, the software listed costs more than the Mac :P
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: considerably more
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Angelic Skyluke Tech: and if money wasn't a problem, I wouldn't even check if the highest card from the cheapest comp was good enough ;)
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Angelic Skyluke Tech: compS even :p
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: mac + virtual with linux and wine...you can run almost anything
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: laptops with dedicated vid cards tend to be chunky. i don't really mine at all
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, fusion > linux/wine
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: same thing with exception that all those stated programs are better in mac :)
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no need to run linux under MacOSX...it already has a full unix core...
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: considerably
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: feature parity between Mac/win in the adobe suite and quark has come a *long* way the last decade
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: still.. if primary purpose is for production adobe suite.. i wouldn't buy a pc
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: which gives us a question, why bother? anything goes until you realize it's old and you need to upgrade
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Angelic Skyluke Tech: well, we don't have 1K euros :p
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: with those programs, you actually need atleast twice
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: was about to say that
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Angelic Skyluke Tech: that's the problem, I don't really know what she needs to do with them :p
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: see...not professional
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Angelic Skyluke Tech: she's at school, I don't know the exact name in English, something like graphist (but not infographist) and she needs a comp ;)
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: graphic designer
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: I advise a mac
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: your first laptop was best she could get
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: .          Jilted has a degree in graphic design
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: julted, not afford to 1k euros
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Angelic Skyluke Tech: and i was asking if an ATI HD 4570 was enough :p
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: it is in that 
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: she's gonna need one after school, too
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: anything higher, she could do in school
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: might as well get on it now. use school loans to buy it
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Angelic Skyluke Tech: forget that in Belgium :p
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: yeah loans can suck
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: i'm not one for following fads. but i'd hate to walk in to graphic design class with a pc
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: buying first computer since she doesnt know what is good or enough. she is early in studies. at the time she gets out, mac is outdated, so is pc. however, 500e cheaper the pc wins
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: I couldnt care less, I use linux nowadays and dont know * about it :D
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Angelic Skyluke Tech: the PC is around 500e, yes. And I bet most of the other students don't have a mac
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: except after school she has no exp w macs and is behind every other GD out there
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: I can say w confidence that mac is the tool of the trade
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: I use a PC
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Angelic Skyluke Tech: I'd gladly learn her how to use Linux, but she doesn't if the teacher doesn't use it :p
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: but I don't have a job as a GD
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: I agree jilted, mac for trade. pc for student
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: foren has a point
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: mac for student so once in the trade she knows what she's doing
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: otherwise she'll be learning all over agin
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: i'd imagine her uni has macs
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Angelic Skyluke Tech: I don't think so. There are not so much mac here
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: if there aint mac around, do you think there is lot of them in professional life there?
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Genosse Sselnoisiv Tech: She's going to uni in France or there abouts?
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Angelic Skyluke Tech: in my University (Math and Computer Science), some teachers use a mac, but most of them have a PC with Linux (mostly Debian)
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: eh, like I said I don't work as a designer. I'm back in school for medicine, actually. I use a PC at home for photoshop (still a very strong passion of mine) for my art
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Angelic Skyluke Tech: Belgium, Mons
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: you have lots of macs in belgium :P
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beltegeuse Tech: well here all severs in the university are linux, teachers have both, mac and pc and students have pc or mac, what they want to choose
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: and anyone who's seen it, my art is quite exceptional, despite being PC based
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Angelic Skyluke Tech: not so much compared to PC :p
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: belgium sucks!
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: as is anywhere skyluke
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Angelic Skyluke is agreeing with that Iron Duck Chuft person again...
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Angelic Skyluke Tech: ok, so the answer is : if we forget about mac, this chipset is good enough. Right ?
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: mac if wishing to devote time to learn it all over again, pc if is comfortable with it's OS (mostly win) and once requires more than basics, chooses with own preferences between mac and pc (at that time, most likely goes for mac for professional reasons) until that, pc is enough
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: prolly, sky
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Angelic Skyluke Tech: thank you all for the answers :)
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: I walked in late, sorry to drag out the mac debate
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: wasnt mac debate :D
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beltegeuse Tech: hmm i think mac is better for graphical desing, not for engineering
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: which do you like better jilted, mac or pc?
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: for what? I own a PC bc it's easier to upgrade, but for performance out of the box, I would kill for a mac
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Angelic Skyluke Tech: no problem Jilted ;)
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: I just don't have the cash
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: there you have it, proof that macs suck because it sounds like jilted would prefer one
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox nestles cozily with .          Jilted, sighing happily.
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: lol *fuckyou amaru
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderchief Tech: does anyone know how to change an .m4v file to an .mp4 file
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderchief Tech: or to anything that media player can open
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: you havent tried for example google for m4v to avi converter?
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderchief Tech: none of it free
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: teaches you to go on with apple
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderchief Tech: yeah
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gamelia Tech: hello
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gamelia Tech: hello I am using the mush client and I was wondering how I can keep mult. window open at the same time. I want to be able to look at the little map while I walk around
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gamelia Tech: right now the map is in a tab
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darghoff Tech: I believe there is a command u type
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gamelia Tech: automap is on
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gamelia Tech: l
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darghoff Tech: you, I just did it.  The command is map.
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darghoff Tech: err Yup.
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gamelia Tech: yeah put I want the window to stay open like having mult. screens open at the same time
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darghoff Tech: not sure what you mean, right now I have my word open, chats, stats, big map, map and notepad all open
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darghoff Tech: if I close map by clicking the X. And then type map it pops back open, with multiple screens still open.
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gamelia Tech: yeah thats what i want but all I have is tabs. I have to click on the tab to see the differnt screens. I only have one screen at a time right now
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: why does newbie send people with questions on the aard mush client here when none of us use it?
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darghoff Tech: what happens when you type map in the Aardwolf window and hit enter?
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gamelia Tech: nothing just a blank line
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gamelia Tech: oh well I think its a setting I have I will figure it out thanks
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darghoff Tech: you sure it's not hidden under the world? tyr minimizing the world.
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gamelia Tech: ok i restarted the mush client and all the windows are up now 
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gamelia Tech: just like I wanted :)
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: shouldn't u have done that before asking?
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: *Yay!*  Go Gamelia!!!  Amarufox cheers him on.
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: 'initaard' might have helped too
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gamelia Tech: uhmm if I would have thought of it before asking I would have
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: 'initaard' might have helped too
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Oops.
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: copied the files from one computer to usb, changed the sqlite file to direct to . instead of c and cant start the mush on other computer. 
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: in original it starts fine
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: actually, anyone found similar problems in two systems that mush dies in usb?
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: these are both linux boxes running mush ? wine ?
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: both ubuntu
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: with exactly same wine system
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: mush shouldn't be much space, why not have mush installed on both and share the config on the usb ?
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: because these two aint only ones I use
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: ahhhhh, i see.
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: i've never messed with wine..*shurg
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: I use few win comps also so I wish to use them all from same files
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Naomii rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: hehe, tintin++ can be used on windows (wintin) and linux and share the same config if the versions are the same *wink *duck ;o)
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: tried tt++, did the same
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: macro's and a few things would need double entries, as windows and linux use different ... keymaps i want to say..
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: although years agi
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: why sqlite ? does mush use a database ?
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: sqlite aint database?
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: blah, i think your shot clear over my head..=P
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: the database aint the problem, it's the complexity of using it :D
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: using mush you need to be low Iq  genious to use it. 
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: SQL is EASY, Foren. All statements have the form of SELECT (columns) FROM (tables) WHERE (conditions) ORDER BY (sort-column) [DESCENDING]
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: monkeys can use sql
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: monkeys DO use sql
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naomii Tech: i most be a premonkey then..
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: All more advanced stuff will be done with combinations of those.
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: like I said, sql aint problem :D
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: using it through lua is due the fact that lua is completely new language for me...
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: lua also very much on the monkey level, and plenty of stuff on the web for apis
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: i don't like how vista/7 have stuff just not run/show at all b/c they're xp
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: you'd think that a window would come up or /something/
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: try the Sam's Teach Yourself SQL in 24 hours for a thorough basic intro. I don't know a great Lua book to recommend.
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: I'm learning chuft, even regexp for mobdeaths too me lots of time, same thing in zmud took less than mins
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: can you right-click and select run as administrator>
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: yes.. did that
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I learnt it to do aard mobprogs, doesn't take long at all, simple little language like php
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: dunno, I use xp and ubuntu 9.10..
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: you'll figure it out quick, man, nice easy little language
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: I dont code, I just do robots for aardwolf mud....
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: though I know nothing of this mushclient stuff, I use zmud
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: sod mushclient :P
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: I mean, I just try to catch lots of information to screen
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: use the channel tags
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: easy then
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: I already have..now I'm up to fast implementation of mobdeaths and campaign room finder combination
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: between that and statmon not much left to be captured :P
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: in mushclient?
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: yep
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: heh
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: wrong client for that :P
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: I know, I had that in zmud
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: but since mapper doesnt work in ubuntu for zmud, I need to do this in mush
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: good reason to not mud in ubuntu, got it :P
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: true...but if you wish to put xp back in my comp, I would appriciate it... :P
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: just hoping I'll get zmud working right in an xp vm under windows 7
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: when I upgrade after a service pack or 2 :P
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: simpler just to make them all to mush and donate them to everyone :D
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: nah, man, people should have to write their own stuff heh :P
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: har har .P
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: and in a way, I agree :D
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: shrug, not a rule or anything, just my opinion :)
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: why won't my zmud stay running in windows 7? running it from C:\zmud as admin in xp sp3 compatibility mode
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: no suggestions?
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: ughs
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: any idea why zmud nor cmud work on my win 7 in admin mode? only the cmud beta works
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: no suggestions? :\
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: great site
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: I lost interest on "how"
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: anything interesting in there?
T1/r7/2009-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: why does cmud 3.12 work and not cmud 2.37 or zmud 7.21 :-\
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WeaponGuy Tech: How do I get the windows to tile in MUSH? I tried the help file, but it doesn't seem to be helping.
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gamelia Tech: look under window and set it to tile
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: initaard? :P
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gamelia Tech: its at top of the screen 
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gamelia Tech: file edit view connection input dispaly game window help click on the window one
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WeaponGuy Tech: Wow... I did not even see that. Thanks. I need to find my styrofoam helmet, now.
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gamelia Tech: sorry peaponguy only one of those per boot and I am wearing it already :)
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gamelia Tech: weaponguy 
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Anyone use kMuddy?
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: anyone using an SSD atm?
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: what board had the link to the eq sorter plugin thing? i can't find it on tech but maybe i'm just blind
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cookar Tech: for mush
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: does anyone have experience setting up a NAS at home that can saturate a GbE link?
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nope, though it clearly follows that it could
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: heh, looking for a HW and SW build recipe :P
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: eh? what do you mean
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: looking at freeNAS atm
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: why not buy a ready-made solution?
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: looking at 2k+
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: and?
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: don't have that much to spend :P
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: so what you really mean is you want to make a half-arsed one
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: exactly!
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i'm sure you could find one readymade for your budget
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: its a nice if i could get it, but if it doesnt work out, it'll be extra esata drives on the htpc :D
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: how much storage do you need?
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: thinking maybe 4-6 TB
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you could do 4tb with one of those netgear toaster boxes for like $400
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unmortal Tech: i need some help
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: don't we all
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: thanks farkyss, did you have a model in mind?
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: (searching right now :D)
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: no, been a long time since i did anything with them, but they had a soho one capable of taking two sata drives, you probably need whatever is the newest version of that is
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: i know about the NSLUs and the like, but none of them seem to be able to saturate a 1Gb link :/
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unmortal Tech: i have 2 mud's is it legal forgot my first mud's name had to create a new one
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: guess you get what you paid for huh
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: that's not a problem, unmortal
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: many of us have more than one character here, you're just not allowed to play them both at the same time
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: Unmortal, use the "Pray" channel to get an IMM's attention for your other login/password
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unmortal Tech: ive got the same password for both my mud's
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salvanas Tech: really? what is it?
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: oi
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Feral Farkyss THWAPS Salvanas for being a moron.
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unmortal Tech: cant say the other mud's name is mercuries
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: thanks again farkyss, 'ReadyNAS' seems to be the thing, will check it out
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Feral Farkyss rides up upon his warhorse and salutes with fist to heart.
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unmortal Tech: farkyss so its okay to have 2 mud's with the same password is it legal
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nogs
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: just don't play them both simultaneously
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salvanas Tech: two MUDs or two characters?
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: read 'help multiplay' for more info
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i take it you don't speak foreign, salvenas?
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salvanas Tech: depends on what you call foreign.
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: broken english
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salvanas Tech: Well, yes, but I caught the convo at the having two muds with the same pw bit, and thought he was genuinely referring to two muds :P
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i live in england, i'm quite used to broken english speakers
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unmortal Tech: 2 mud's salvanas different levels
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: only place i expect perfect english is in my clan
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salvanas Tech: i gotcha, unmortal :)
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: the IT professional in me would suggest you use different passwords for everything
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: and yet.. :P
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i don't practice what i preach
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unmortal Tech: thanks cheese anyone
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: wow... this ReadyNAS thing is pretty cwake
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: heh, was going to say pretty cool for its price point :P
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: Chrissy present?
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: I've heard nice things about ReadyNAS
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: maybe a new year's present *wink
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: Which model is it?
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: 650 AUD for a NV+ model
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trunx Tech: Does anyone have sripts for mush client ?
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: i'm guessing that's w/o the discs :P
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trunx Tech: scripts sorry 
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/mushclient/plugins/Aardwolf/
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trunx Tech: thanks bro :D
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: there's a 2disk version for 350 dollars, but i'm pretty sure you can't fool it with a port multiplier :(
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: the 4disk one might have to be it
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: are you sure it's a two disk version, and not a version with 2 disks bundled? I'm pretty sure the NV always has 4 ports/bays
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: readynas duo
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: sorry, was in gq... the readynas duo looks to be a two disk version
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: its different from the NV version
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: How do I get the Map to show in the map window again? Right now its showing in the aard window 
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gamelia Tech: i just love the way my wifi lags
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gamelia Tech: is there any sort of usb thing i can get for my laptop to boost the range and str. of my wifi? 
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gamelia Tech: or is that on the server side?
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wireless signals can be boosted from either side...think of it as the laptop having a sphere around it & the access point having a sphere around it...you can make either sphere bigger, and as long as the spheres share a space (Venn-style), you can connect
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: you could get a wireless dongle and a high gain antenna - but you might find better luck by running wireless N
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I'd move the access point closer instead ;-)
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or if you have a large house, get more than 1
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: or get a smaller place
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Desypher Tech: how do triggers work?
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LexMortis Tech: Does anyone here run MUSHclient under wine? help keeps crashing the entire client :(
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: just remove the help plugin
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LexMortis Tech: thanks, works fine now :)
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tehtzuo Tech: anyone use the sharp tracker plugin
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tehtzuo Tech: im getting an error message 
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: type #startup
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tehtzuo Tech: just installed and enabled it
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tehtzuo Tech: okay
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: if you reconnect to mud you must type it every time, if you login fresh, it works just fine
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tehtzuo Tech: well i just exited mushclient without quitting and then restarted
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: yep, that does it
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tehtzuo Tech: might be what done it
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tehtzuo Tech: k
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tehtzuo Tech: so is doing the startup the only thing i gotta do
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rozhea Tech: would somebody please tell me how to disable the Big Map? its driving me crazy!!
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rozhea Tech: er? is anyone here?
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: try minimizing it
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: ctrl-shift-p, bigmap plugin, disable
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rozhea Tech: did that but every time i walk into certain areas it just pops up... 
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: or even remove
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rozhea Tech: thanx that seems to be working...
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: you could just do auto bigmap off also
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: So you can still have the window but it won't pop up when you don't want it to.
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: ugh. call me a moronic noob all you want, but where can i find a spellup script for *C* mud? all of the ones i've seen are for zmud and don't work
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: finger davos
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chicomecoatl tells Dino Bot Davos, "Aren't you the guy who hit me in the eye?"
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: on webpages, can i display text on top of image or do i have to draw on top of it in php?
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: you can make a div and display over it(cept it will be thrown off by screen sizes unless the coding of the page is somehow absolute)
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: aint background mostly image? and you do display text on top of it so answer is yes :)
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: yea it doesnt have to be image i just want to make some squres black some squares red or whatever and then display text on top of it but i dont know how :)
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: use a table and backgrounds within table
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: you can do it with css
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: yea but the text is 1 piece, if i put in a table it wont be right
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Open the image up in Paint, put text over it, save it, upload it.
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: yea but the squares colors change
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: anipopo do you have any tips what i should be looking at more specifically in css ?
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: It's an animated imate, then?
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: image*
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: no, well its not an image, but.. for example its fixed width grid and some squares have different colour background depending what the site says
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: css has loads of stuff for positioning text
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Oh.  Heh.
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: i think table is best option atm or css but i dont know anything about that
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: you know nothing about css? :O
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: if you're designing a webpage, you owe it to your future self to learn it now
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: i know nothing
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: css is a major part of webdesign
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: writing a website without CSS is like trying to write Aardwolf with Visual Basic.
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: HAHAH
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: dreamweaver does everything for me, but i dont get paid to make websites or anything
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: i never made a website before
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: buy/download dreamweave
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: on the note of programming, is it possiable to pull info from a selection box before submit is pushed on a form, or would i need to use JS for that?
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: stupid question. in cmud with triggers how do i tell cmud to use the * part of a trigger..? like "Spell wore off! *" to use the part of the *?
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: i thought it was  ? :\
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: i thought it was '' ? :\
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: ~
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: i thought it was %1 ? :\
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: if you mean Spell wore off! Globe of invulnerability,you can change it to Spell wore off! (*) if you need to pull it
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: You'll need to do: Spell wore off! (*)   and use %1.
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: thank you :)
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: grrr. Davos script is all sorts of bugged :(
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Yeah, I've made some changes to it, but never uploaded it. :\
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: It's not really bugged, just need some changes made.
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: charneus send me it? :)
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: its constantly trying to cast underwater breathing even when i have it voided. lol
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Anyone know a good (preferedly free) online resource for basic Python scripting? The docs on python's site just don't seem to be cutting it, i'm looking for a resource that doesn't assume you have ANY programming knowledge at all.
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: are those outdated books in discount bins in large bookstores with titles:  "Python programming in xx days" worth perusing
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Really R. Bigman Tech: what's syntax to show me note write editor lines by number?
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: .sn
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Really R. Bigman Tech: ty
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: type .h while in the note editor -- may require to turn off zmud parsing
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: did Aardwolf choose the . syntax to screw with zmud users (instead of the / syntax used by Smaug note editors)
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: No.
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: It's standard in most coding aspects to use . instead.
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: '/' syntax screws with tf
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: You're not going to please everyone, though.
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: And / is reserved for recall anyway.
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: what is tf
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: tinyfugue
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: tinyfugue is unheard of compared to zmud
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: does / act as a recall inside of the aard note editor
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: for winblows users maybe.
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: tf I knew of long before zmud...
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: cpm was around long before DOS, but does anybody sane use cpm these days
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: which alleged standard uses the almost invisible . as an editor command
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: anyone know, off-hand, if cmud somehow deletes some of your scripts, if there's a way to get them back?
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladavar Tech: did you check your back up files?
T1/r7/2009-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladavar Tech: did you check your back up files?
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twyst Tech: is it possible to set a beeping trigger in Mush?
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mercuries Tech: tried to go to bazaar ended up in the underdark there's a bug in bazaar
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mercuries Tech: okay thanks charneus just checking
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FireNinja Tech: how can i copy and paste on mushclient with the colors?
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FireNinja Tech: example, on a quest [TARGET] is red?
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twyst Tech: help color
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: or, help rawcolor
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twyst Tech: or [TARGET]
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FireNinja Tech: thank you
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darghoff Tech: are here any apps to access Aardwolf via an I-touch or I-phone?
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: just use a standard telnet app
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Who is Pohhui Tech: whats the best way to add music to ipod touch from your harddrive? without this itunes crap
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: you answered your own question :P
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Who is Pohhui Tech: i cant just drag and drop... need some software?
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: iTunes would be it
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: is there a significant difference between RSS and Atom?
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: in usage or for coding? 
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: in usage.
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: not really, now
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: not really, no
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: like if I wanted to incorporate a feed into a newsreader
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: so it doesnt matter whether I use the Atom or the RSS feed?
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: if you are application supports both, no
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: ok, thanks :)
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emir Icebergovich Tech: anyone here that's good a system cameras?
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: which model?
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bakasama Tech: Using the Mushclient, how do I send a command to a plugin/script in an Alias?
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't send commands directly to plugins/scripts
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bakasama Tech: Hmm, probably going about this the wrong way then
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what are you trying to do?
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bakasama Tech: Using the spellup plugin I got from the gammon.com.au site
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you change the Send To drop-down from World to Execute or Script, then it will be interpreted
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you wanted to have "suo" use "spellup others %1", then setting it to send to execute would do that
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bakasama Tech: Trying to setup a command to set the spellup, but skip all the detects since I have true seeing
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tawleriji Tech: Hello?
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: help forgetskill
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have you typed "spellup help" to see the command to type to remove spells from the spellup list?
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tawleriji Tech: Looking for some help with MUSHClient. I need to fix the font on the Chats window.
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: forgetskill won't do anywhere near what he is trying to do
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: sure it will, just forgetskill all the detects
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bakasama Tech: and forgetskill has a small limit
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: zoranth, no it won't
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: it works for me :)
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: his script will still try to cast them if the script is set to cast them
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it doesn't work for you to do what he's trying to do
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're doing something completely different and unrelated
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bakasama Tech: Yeah, I'm guessing I'll have to just remove each of them everytime I login?
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: must have come late to the convo
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not every time you login, just once
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tawleriji, bring chats to the front, then game -> configure -> output
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pick whatever font you want
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tawleriji Tech: Thanks.
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bakasama, are you on vista or windows 7?
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bakasama Tech: Ah, I see how this is working now.  Didn't realize it would automatically rebuff, reading comprehension ftw
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bakasama Tech: and yeah, I'm using 7
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: either of those can stop MUSHclient from saving changes, which would then cause you to have to do it each time you log in
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bakasama Tech: Haven't logged out yet, I just didn't realize how the plugin actually worked.  Think it makes sense now :D
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to fix that, you have a few options...(1) turn off UAC, (2)  run MUSH as administrator, or (3) move the data folders from the program files folder
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's a REALLY good write-up on how it works on gammon's page that introduced the plugin
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bakasama Tech: I have the Aardwolf.mcl saved in a folder mush has rights to, I'll close and open the client again to see if that works for it
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=8780 is a good resource for the spellup plugin...bast made some improvements to gammon's plugin available at http://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/Aardwolf_Spellups
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tawleriji Tech: Anyone have a suggestion for the font? So far I've tried three different fonts. Maybe it's the colors on the black screen that are bothering me. I do not seem to be as young as used to be.
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bakasama Tech: Seems to work.  Guess I just forgot to see if it was broken before I tried to fix it :P
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: courier, monaco, fixedsys (the defaulr)
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: default*
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tawleriji Tech: Thanks again, I think I'm going to go with the Courier, but I'll try the Monaco first.
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can play with how intense the colors are as a whole...game -> configure -> ANSI colors...you can click lighter and darker to shift them all
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bakasama Tech: Oh, on a related note, where can you change the channel colors?  Specifically looking to change tell colors
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: colorset status, help colorset
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tawleriji Tech: Hah... I'm still on one of those big monitors with a tube. I noticed that some of the flat screen monitors do not show colors properly.
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pandus Tech: ok...stupid question.  How do I move a window when I can't see the title bar? Just downloaded the aard client and the stats window is stuck in an inconvenient spot.  I can't see the title bar to drag it around.... :(
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tunst Tech: I had that problem before
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bakasama Tech: Window - Cascade
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bakasama Tech: Then arrange/resize how you want them.
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pandus Tech: yeah...that would do it...thx
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tawleriji Tech: Another way to move the window... hit the Alt key, then hit the TAB key or SHIFT+TAB until you do not know which window is highlighted, then hit the DOWN ARROW, then tap on the letter M and you should be able to use the arrow keys to move the window.
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladavar Tech: with cmud 2.37, do #IF commands work when used in aliases?
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: well, normally, but how do you mean?
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladavar Tech: if i put this at the end of my alias    #IF (count > 10) {scot} 
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladavar Tech: grrr one sec
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladavar Tech: #IF (scount > 10) {scot}       scount is a variable
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladavar Tech: scount would need to be > 10 before the i used the alias?
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: #IF (@scount > 10)
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: dont forget the @ tho
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladavar Tech: yeah wouldn't show when i pasted it
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: if your try to post @ just double them like @@
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: so they show
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: just fyi in the future, but yes, that would work
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladavar Tech: thanks I forgot all about that i'm just getting my feet wet again after about a 7 year break
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: np, lemme know if you have any more questions
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladavar Tech: so what would i need to do to get   #IF (@scount > 10) {scot}    to fire scot  if the counter variable @scount increases due to triggers off of the commands from the initial alias?
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: gotta give me more info
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: Your trigger might look something like this #TR {pattern} {#ADD scount 1
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladavar Tech: spellup alias.   for each spell that is cast the cast message adds 1 to 1
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladavar Tech: adds 1 to the @scount variable
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladavar Tech: adds 1 to the 1 variable
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladavar Tech: opps sorry
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: Your trigger might look something like this #TR {pattern} {#ADD scount 1;#IF (@scount > 10) {scot}
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Would have to double the } at the end, there wouldn't you
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: yeah
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladavar Tech: I need the #if on the trigger then?  That's what I was thinking, but wanted to check before I added it to all the triggers 
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: yes, I believe so if Im thinking your doing what I think you are
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladavar Tech: just reproducing the games built in spellup alias  so it puts me to sleep when i'm done casting
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladavar Tech: just reproducing the games built in spellup alias  so it puts me to sleep when i'm done casting
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladavar Tech: mt
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Just quaff a mana potion if you need more mana :P
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: or only go to sleep if under 5 secs or something to next tick
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladavar Tech: Thanks for the help guys.  I'm a little slow and fuzzy headed this morning, more so than usual.  
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: np
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matao Tech: does anybody use ubuntu?
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arfwolf Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matao Tech: i'm trying to get mushclient or similar thing to work on ubuntu
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dingaling Tech: wine
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dingaling Tech: or just use a client like tf or mcl
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arfwolf Tech: I recommend cedega over wine
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matao Tech: problem is i don't know how to get them to run, i barely got tintin to run and it's bad
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dingaling Tech: isn't cedega the commercial version of wine?
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arfwolf Tech: yes, and it's very good in comparison
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pokumz Tech: There's an ubuntu package for mudlet, it's decent and gui
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tehtzuo Tech: but you have to pay for it
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arfwolf Tech: once
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tehtzuo Tech: nuff said =D
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matao Tech: i'm trying to understand ther terminal stuff
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arfwolf Tech: if you're using linux because it's cheap, maybe you should get an OLPC
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matao Tech: i'm using it cuz i like it
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dingaling Tech: terminal stuff is as if you were running a program in ms-dos, if you're more familiar with windows
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tehtzuo Tech: whole idea behind linux is open source
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matao Tech: but it's different, i have to manually configure and install stuff
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matao Tech: which I like, but I have gnome-mud and trying to get it to work.
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arfwolf Tech: can't you just look in the synaptic package manager for a mud client that works out of the box?
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arfwolf Tech: I'd check myself but I'm on LFS right now
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matao Tech: synaptic package manager?
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arfwolf Tech: was it you that said that you're on ubuntu?
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matao Tech: aye
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: you can install tinyfugue from aptitude
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tehtzuo Tech: apt is great
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arfwolf Tech: you don't know about the package managers?
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matao Tech: I'm new to ubuntu, I know where it is
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: any hints on how I can increase my baud rate with these carrier pigeons?
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tehtzuo Tech: new to linux or ubuntu ?
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arfwolf :s
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arfwolf Tech: it's a visual interface for apt
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arfwolf Tech: in terminal you can type apt-cache search mud
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arfwolf Tech: and it'll tell you all packages it can download and install with the word mud in their title
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arfwolf Tech: not sure what kind of results you'll get or if any of them will be good
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arfwolf Tech: in gnome you can go to the system menu (i think) and look for the synaptic package manager..
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arfwolf Tech: and search through it in the GUI
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arfwolf Tech: and when you tell it to install a package, it'll install all dependancies for you..
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arfwolf Tech: like urpmi..
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matao Tech: system>admin>synaptic package manager
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arfwolf Tech: I'd be surprised if there isn't a mud client in there
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arfwolf Tech: or five
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matao Tech: i was kinda looking for one like mushclient since i got used to that one
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matao Tech: and gnome-mud is on that apt-cache search mud list
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arfwolf Tech: if you install wine, you'll be able to run windows apps in ubuntu
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matao Tech: how would i install wine
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arfwolf Tech: using synaptic
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tehtzuo Tech: apt
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dingaling Tech: sudo apt-get install wine
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arfwolf Tech: or in terminal, sudo apt-get install wine
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arfwolf Tech: according to the musclient download page, if you use it in wine, you should give it the /wine option
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arfwolf Tech: so you'd want to make a shortcut that runs "wine mushclient.exe /wine"
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matao Tech: cannot find using terminal
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dingaling Tech: ?
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dingaling Tech: sudo apt-get update
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dingaling Tech: then the install line
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dingaling Tech: or you could try sudo aptitude search wine
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matao Tech: unable to lock the admin directory
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arfwolf Tech: do you have synaptic open at the same time
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dingaling Tech: probably because you have a package manager with a lock
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arfwolf Tech: you can only have one program using that directory simulatanously
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matao Tech: okay i found wine in terminal
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dingaling Tech: sudo apt-get install wine
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matao Tech: working on it
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tehtzuo Tech: anyone know if theres a way to make qchan value stick.. like can i alter the plugin for the value
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tehtzuo Tech: eh thats on quest helper that is
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tehtzuo Tech: quest inform
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tehtzuo Tech: nobody use it ?
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matao Tech: this wine thing takes a while doesn't it
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tehtzuo Tech: nvm found it
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matao Tech: okay it looks like wine is done, now what?
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arfwolf Tech: put mushclient somewhere in your home folder, then type "wine mushclient.exe /wine"
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matao Tech: I got it!
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: Is there a way to send an html request in cmud that doesn't open a new browser window? :p
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: Just want to send something from cmud :p
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ff opens a new tab for me
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: you may need to use COM for that.
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WeaponGuy Tech: How do I get this map to stop popping up in the Aard MUSH?
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you mean the #url command?
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: CMud doesn't have a way to control other programs outside of COM
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: no, #URL will open up a new window
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: Yeah, was figuring I needed to use COM
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no, #url opens a new tab. i'm pretty sure i'm seeing things right over here
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: use perl with wget or something
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: same difference, which isn't what Demon's wanting
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: tigernuts was complaining aboot it some time ago. he was using ie tho
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Candlejack Resiliang Tech: Anyone know a MUD client I can use on the Android OS?
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: hammer?
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Anyone good with building computers?
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I heard Intel is.
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Blessed Balaam looks around and whistles innocently.
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I'm reasonably good, but I haven't been keeping up with the newer components.
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twyst Tech: same
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: One of my computers has 1 slot for RAM
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: I picked up a new card and inserted it
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Blessed Balaam boggles at Quadrapus.
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: (Bear in mind, I've done this a million times... I know to ground myself, etc)
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Now the computer is running like crap and will eventually tell me about address errors
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: I put in the old memory and the same thing happens now, so I'm thinking motherboard
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Thoughts?
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twyst Tech: might be a faulty stick
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twyst Tech: try memtest
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: All memory tests show no problems
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twyst Tech: what type of mobo do you have? also what type of ram is it
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: It's a brand new netbook
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: rofl
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: So I'm thinking I'll just return it - they can't tell if I've opened it :P
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: it's an asus 1005ha
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: did you get the right type/speed of memory?
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Quad, did you get a 2GB stick to put into a spot that had 1GB?
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: BIOS and windows see 2GB
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I had to update my BIOS when I did that.
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: or 1, if I put the old in
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: hmm, I think it's the latest version
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: you sure the ram isn't too fast?
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: do you have a similar computer?
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Ah, that eliminates my theory.
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I have a 901.
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Quadrapus nods.
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: It is a bit too fast, but I've read online (on every site dealing with this) that it will clock it accordingly
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twyst Tech: try underclocking it in bios
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: No bios settings available for RAM
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: it only displays how much it sees
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Check here: http://forum.eeeuser.com/  That site has helped me often.
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: yeah I posted
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: can i install windows 7 on it without a CD drive?
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Use a USB
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I've had Win7 on an SD card since beta.
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: hmm
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: lol nod
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: maybe the bios version IS the issue
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I downloaded the install onto one card, then used that to install to the other SD.
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: it's not showing me the version I upgraded to
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: that can't be good.
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Could be that I just fucked up the BIOS upgrade, which would be nice
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: reflash bios again?
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Any other thoughts?
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: rofllll ooops
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: i just used diskpart and 'clean' on my 2ndary hard drive
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: any way to undo it? :P
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: try test disk? I dunno if it will handle this I believe it is more for dealing with partitioning oops
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: hmmmm.. didn't format it just need to restore it
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: testdisk can sometimes retrieve deleted data--Acronis might be able to as well.
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: thanks lacrimon
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: IExplorer: how do 'remove' toolbars/add-ons/etc.  I see how to disable them but I want to remove
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: nvm, looks like it's in add/rem progs
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarvo Tech: how do i turn off the map in the main window?
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarvo Tech: im using mush
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: btw.. wads able to recover my partition no problem. haha
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: now.. how can i switch my primary drive that for some reason is E:\ to C:\ / i know how to flip em normally but it won't let me because E:\ is OS is
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: and i using win 7
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: reinstall is the only option. you can't change the letter of a system drive
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: nod thanks
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: you might see things on google that allows you, but it breaks so many things its better to reinstall
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: actually. if you make sure no other drive is using C, you might be able to get it to use both C and E
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: no wait
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: nah you can't because its system drive
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: you can't. best you can do is make it a subfolder of another drive
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: at least with MS disk manager
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: you can do it with subst, just put a batch file in your startup folder
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: it's such a dirty hack though
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: eh. not really that big of a deal :)
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: well, if ever you want to test if it's worth it, just "subst C: E:\". doesn't get much easier than that.
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: as long as there's nothing mission critical on whichever drive C: currently is... subst doesn't mind overriding real drives.
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: hehe ok
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darghoff Tech: is there an app that lets you use aardwolf from an Iphone or Itouch.  Just want to read notes and help files, not necessarily play
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: telnet
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darghoff Tech: goold 'ol old fashioned telnt is available as an Itouch app?  I'll look it up.
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladavar Tech: I have a fairly simple trigger setup to capture the automap to a seperate window in CMUD.  It works good for the most part except when a room has  orange colored walls.  it dosent show the walls.  Any suggestions? 
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: i'd grab a copy of puTTY. it's a very useful app to have anyway
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: or maybe, pTerm
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: 3rd thought - iSSH might be better :P
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darghoff Tech: thanks I'll check those out.
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: why won't my eeepc boot from my flash drivee? i did the diskpart active thing, and went to bios and made sure it went to removeable drives first ?
T1/r7/2009-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: because the flash is a hd and not removable.. silly me wow
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: ebay users' stupidity knows no bounds
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if an item on ebay says "this graphics card is pci-express - you will need a pci-express slot vacant in your PC to be able to use it, please check before bidding"
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: why then send an email saying that you have a dell dimension 2350, will it fit?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: send a link to support.dell.com?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: rofl
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: because you have No IdeaTM?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: within 6 clicks i'd found out for them
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if i can find out within 6 clicks, why can't they?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: They did all the the clicking in sending the email.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: can't believe some jerk would send you email about that rofl
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: probably more work
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: some people can't understand tech, at all.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: it's just a fact of life
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: though i can get perverse pleasure from the fact that not only do they not have a pci-express slot (clearly, it's too old), but tehy don't even have an agp slot, so serves them right for buying a dell
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: then they shouldn't be upgrading anything in their PCs :P
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: if you found it in 6 clics and answer to him, he got it easier than you :D
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: wow. what a piece of junk
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you didn't gleen that at the beginning from the Dell bit?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: i got it in 3 clicks :P
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: wise up, Malina
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: hmmm?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: hmmmm.. jolicloud is actually okkkayyy on my eeepc
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: seriously, not all dells are junk. i rate them pretty highly amongst OEM crap.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: more fool you
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i'd never buy one
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i'd never recommend one
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: ahh. yeah the bios updater wasn't working
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: mt
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: congratulations, neither would i. but i used to do onsite tech, and dells were the easiest to set up, least likely to be DOA and least amount of failures
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: no easier or harder than any other pc
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Quite unlike your mom
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: i wouldnl't recommend anyone buy any oem pc
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: well, it's really more about time than ease. with a dell, everything is boxed in a way well, and the preinstall is far superior to the likes of, for instance, HP or Acer. A dell install, complete with unpacking, takes 10 minutes. Other cheap OEM stuff has you going through the "Configure your windows setup" BS that almost no-one cares about.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: and when you're paid by install, not by the minute, there is PLENTY of value to such a system
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: network install and sip coffee?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: unattended*
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: not a choice. it's already preloaded with a preinstall before shipping
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: Plus, contract specifically states no modifying install process, nor removing all the useless junk applications they get paid to bundle
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: my god acer are naff
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: big company like that and their online rma booking system doesn't actually work
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Acer sponsors the Norwegian American Football Federation?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: never ceases to amaze me how badly laptops are designed
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: o?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: laptop chipset cooled by a very thin, totally inadequate passive heatsink. Not only inadequate, they attached it with glue rather than mounting it with screws. So over time, overheats, glue melts, heatsink falls off altogether, laptop dies
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: the heatsink falling off the cpu shouldn't kill it
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it's not the cpu, it's the chipset
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: is this a $500 job or a $5000 one?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Loony Lachdanan looks around the room and cries out, "Oh boy!"
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: oh, a cheap laptop when it was new, elrast, but it doesn't have to be designed badly
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: cheap, good design and good servicing.  pick any two :P
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: anyone know how to disable default paging prompt?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: nopage?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: that's not it
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: and the tags before channel and maps etc:P tryed aardmush client and screwed up my settings wanna restore it:P
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: pagesize 0
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: nope
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: pageprompt then?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: nope seems not:P
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: i'm expecting you to read the help files of these commands, btw
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: yeah trying now:p
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Loony Lachdanan D
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: pagesize 0 should do it...
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: yeah, that's all i did
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: back in the day...
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: and tags will help you with your tags issue
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: tags was what i was looking for:P
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: tags off did the trick for all thnx:D
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: didn't know what those things were called:P
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: i'm trying to see the logic in using windows (or any other) system restore option...  aren't i better off with a clean install if something goes wrong?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: yep
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: cool, just making sure i didn't missing something :)
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: heh. most people don't keep decent backups and find reinstalling traumatic
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: yeah i plan on backing up the data drives, but not the OS drive
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: it helps to reinstall every few days to keep windows running in tip top condition
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: hmmm i don't know if i'd go to that level :P
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: setting up a mediapc, so ideally my only interface to it is through the remote :P
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: another question... is it possible to put the W7 installation disk onto a partition so I can reinstall from that partition? :O
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: rather than from the DVD
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: you can do it easily from a thumb drive
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: err wouldnt that be limited by USB bandwidth?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: you can do it from HDD, but then that partition will have to be set as boot, and you'll probably screw up letter assignments
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: yeah, to about 50mb/sec
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: hrm
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: still, heck of a lot faster than the dvd
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: but it's small files that slow down the dvd anyhow
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: nods, i'll ask mr google about it, thanks
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: yeah. complete install time from usb is 5-15 minutes (depending on drive)
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: sweeeeet
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Faulty Bot Elrast rubs his hands together in greedy anticipation.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: just got to get that sucker formatted NTFS :D
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Faulty Bot Elrast O can't be that difficult :O
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: it's really not
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: then you just drag the sources folder from the dvd. or the whole thing, it's not much bigger
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: does windows still use obfuscated 8 char filenames for its system files?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: now i know why people can stand reinstalling!  (with the right setup)
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: it doesn't need to, but it can
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: but reinstalling the system is only a fraction of the problem, the bigger pita is reinstalling your apps and restoring their settings/config
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: settings/config = appdata. copy that, copy your settings.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: hey, i like 8+3char filename -- that teaches skill in acronyms
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: nods, it requires a bit of forethought to find out where/what the config data files are
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: not something most non-IT would think about heh
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: non-IT people*
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: with linux if have migrated my home directory over countless systems for over a decade :)
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: i don't know how linux works, but i wish windows software wouldn't (have to?) embed crap into the registry.  Just put the damn software in a nice self contained blob
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: copy the package in, copy app.config, you're done :P
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: there's some nice apps that do that now... don't use them myself, but i hear good things
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: little sandbox'ers
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: nods, i hear mac is heading in that direction too
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: on *nix systems, system configs are stored in /etc, personal settings are stored in your home directory, and are for the most part just plain text files so are easily copied/modified/backed up
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: it's nice that firefox/thunderbird uses a sane method to store settings so that i can move my configs across platforms (linux/windows)
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: shortnames are also convenient in programming -- if using long 32character or longer names in programming, when looking at a compiled file listing, a screen with far more than 80 characters wide is required
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: Those are hard to come by these days.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Loony Lachdanan grins evilly.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: did Windows "copyright" those small input messages boxes that some webpages use to permit the user to input comments (egrin)
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: i prefer the mouseovers that get in the way of filling out forms. they are awesome!
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: ahh, so what's the difference between linux and bsd?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: and which is best?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: and then i try to just tab through the boxes, but of course, they're out of order!
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: they're better at different things
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: and what rot about transferring settings on a browser, you have a list of favourites and thats it
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: favourites, cookies, passwords
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: i don't care to lose them, so i don't
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you don't want to be able to copy passwords
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: mmm, cookies
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: history, plugins, etc, just copy firefox profile directory and you're sorted
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: only as secure as your filesystem and account settings
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: sounds like a big load of tits to me, just need your favourites folder and that's it
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: I'd like to get in on that
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: if that's all YOU need then fine, don't tell me what need and don't need :)
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you don't need anything else
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: seriously, just copy the freakin' appdata folder and ALL of your programs (not just the browser) keep their settings, if they were coded right.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: and yes, i do know what's best for you :-)
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: BSD built from unix sources, linux was built from scratch to be like unix - though differences remain.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: what about the crap in the registry?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: the registry isn't one file you know
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: which is better, lachdana?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: hkeylocaluser is in your profile folder, for example
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: bsd is quite often used for mission-critical server apps. it's very solid security-wise, and stable
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: so why aren't the ubertechs using free/open/netbsd instead of linux?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: linux has better driver support, and has more code written for it
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: preference for a particular licence mostly
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: because bsd uses the bsd license, and linux use gpl
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: looking at fast USB thumbs now...  options seem to be mechanical / flash / SSD, right?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: think i'll stick to xp
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: bsd means people can steal your code
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: mechanical? flash is ssd
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: it's not stealing if it's sanctioned in the licence, and it's your choice to use that licence
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: using oss is a theft and it's killing the software industry!
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: really small USB keys with a spinning disc
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: a lot of people can't deal with that though, so release for linux under GPL (or one of the many similar licences)
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that would be an external hard drive then :P
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: yeah leaving the thieving to MS!
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: personally see little point in anything other than xp, myself
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: yeah, but the interface is still USB :)  was talking about installing windows from that
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: xp is abooger if you are testing websites imo
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: switched from xp to 7. i'm happy. wouldn't go back to xp
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: What you use should depend entirely on your needs. If XP works fine, then stick with it.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: why on earth would i be testing websites?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: for money mostly
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: or for crack
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: is that a techie joke?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: was tempted with the idea of w7 and running xp in virtual
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: then thought: what on earth is the point?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: to feed the ms monster?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: chances are you won't need xp mode for anything
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: you love MS and want to buy more licenses
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: i've certainly had no use for it
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i'd need xp mode for most of my software that isn't vista/7 compliant
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: like?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: games
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: LOL
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: zmud?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm calling bs
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what games?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: the ones i know won't work with vista, such as blood, blood 2, system shock, doom
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: there's some old games that still use stupid bloody freeware 16bit installshield, and that's about it.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: 1 word. DOSbox
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you mean, pretty much everything written before 1999?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: dosbox is shite
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: as an atheistic antitheist, i am able to (almost) prove that God does not disapprove of software piracy
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: dosbox is still pretty slow
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: take your crap to debate, or echo
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: mmm i can't see the difference between those small USB sticks and a $800 SSD drive.  Are SSD drives the samething, except higher density + levelling firmware?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: they're really damn fast
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: like /really/ fast
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: yes. several channels as well
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: ahh
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: if you're just using it to install win7 then any cheapo usb stick will do!
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: think 8 channel raid thumbsticks
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Faulty Bot Elrast nods at Loony Lachdanan.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: nods, looking at benchies for a fast USB flash drive
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: win7 on dvd not good enough for you?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: no
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: nope
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: why?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: zzzzzzzzzzz
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: i installed mine off dvd
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Faulty Bot Elrast :P
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: i did one install off dvd, that was enough for me.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: nods, same here
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: how many times a day do you expect to be installing win7?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: depends on how often it crashes?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: . o O (  ) Habasi snickers softly.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not once yet :)
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: had more crashes with xp
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: having the usb stick handy means i'm more likely to reinstall rather than suffer through crap
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhogurk Tech: not even the black screen of death? :P\
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: it takes up all of 3gb on my thumbdrive (on my keys), so if someone's computer is broken I do a clean install.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not many, but anything is more than none :P
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: carrying dvds in your pocket is really uncomfortable
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: don't think i've had an xp crash in about 6 months
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: probably longer
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: anyway, 2 desktops + 1 laptop for me, so chances murphy will show up is pretty good
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: if it has the features you need, and is stable, don't upgrade. ever.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: unless MS terminates support :O
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: although for an offline system.... i've seen safety critical systems running win95 :(
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: well, xp had all the features i needed, but 7 has a pile of features that are just nice to have :)
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: why not? all systems fail the same way, linux crashes just as much as xp when it comes to bad drivers or faulty hardware
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: this windows vs linux thing being a stability issue is a myth
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: some fail more gracefully than others
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and linux lets you know what's wrong
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: lets you know in exactly the same way that windows did, either locks up and tells you nothing, or reboots and tells you what it was doing when it crashed, in exactly the same way as windows did
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gamelia Tech: the thing with win ver linux is that more programs with windows get attacked t
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: no, not really at all.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir bonks Gamelia on the head for being such an UTTER moron.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: windows gets attacked more because people use it
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: That is true.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: windows get attacked more because it's easier to attack it and the exploits behave the same way on most installs
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: reinstalling an OS of a USB stick infers that the bios or current OS is able to read that usb stick
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: that's not the primary reason
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's kind of difficult to write malware that works on most linux istalls. linux boxes just get rooted
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gamelia Tech: yeah sticking a usb into a dead computer is worthless 
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gamelia Tech: might as well stick the usb in a glass of water
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: how exactly do you propose moving the bus into the glass?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gamelia Tech: you going about it the wrong way you must become one with the glass
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gamelia Tech: don't fight it
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: find it quite obnoxous that i had to download wd's toolkit just to wipe some hidden partitions off a hard drive
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: w7 installs a hidden one by default, if that's the one you're talking about?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nope
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: was a couple of acer-created restore ones
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: but despite it being in an external caddy, doze wouldn't touch them
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: heh i got those on my lenovo lappy
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: all that goes with a new SSD goes in though
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: Where do you want to go today?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: not the BSOD, thats for sure
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: Anyone uses an Android phone here?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gamelia Tech: i do
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gamelia Tech: no not really sorry just kidden
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: Heh. Oh well.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Can you put a for loop in a simple lua alias, if so is there a handy example?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macuiltotec Tech: anybody have nex tech phone services? 
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Littleman Tech: anyone pretty familiar with microsoft excel?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: ask away, don't ask about asking
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: i think its a spreedsheet
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Littleman Tech: well didnt want to spam this channel with questions if i can take it to tells :P
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: thats what this channel is for
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It's the tech channel :P
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: people who have it on, expect it
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: the more people who see it the more help you will get
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: what do you need, Littleman?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: I've worked with it pretty extensively.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Littleman Tech: ok.. well have multiple(52) worksheets in a workbook. Trying to make it so when I change the width of a certain column, say "c", it changes all the "c" columns to that width
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: think you'll need a macro for that
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: far as I know they're all separate
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Littleman Tech: so i should be reading the macro help files? :P
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: not sure how to do that, think you'll have to do a macro, because each sheet's layout is considered individual.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: can you refer to specific sheets?  Like dot-notation or something?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: yeah, record a macro that sets the width of C to whatever value, then goes to the next sheet.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Try just selecting all of the sheets that you want to change (hold down Shift while selecting them). Format your c column width.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Littleman Tech: so ill have to go thru each sheet?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: that MIGHT work, Arnica.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: does, just tried it
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Littleman Tech: yea, i can do that with copy/paste special/column width.... but looknig for an easier way.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: awesome, I learn something.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: right click any tab and select all tabs from the popup, then change one tabs colu,=mn c
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Littleman Tech: ok guys, thanks... i may have more questions later :P
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daimun Tech: Can anyone recommend a good mud client on OSX?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pokumz Tech: Mudlet's a fine choice. Cross-platform too in case you want to transport any configuration settings or scripts.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daimun Tech: Wonderful, thank you :-)
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Don  Arxe Tech: anyone here good with java
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: grrr why does my 1080p only show 480p ? :(
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: god is mad at you
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: cause your only watching something that comes in 480p?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: espn?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: time warner?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: god is mad at you for trying to be better than 480!
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: comcast
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: no Apples he said!! NO APPLES!
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: on the espn HD channel?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: god i'm so dumb. forgot lol
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: figured
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: wow that was sooo ugly
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Just like your mom.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: lol starling
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: I didnt mean it in a bad way, just figured it was something on your end.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: hehe. yeh i know
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: hdmi component cables work same as hdmi cord?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: hdmi to component you mean?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: i have both the hdmi cord and the 5 component thingies
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: no such thing as hdmi component, they are 2 different things
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: no, not the same thing
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: both will pull HD tho
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: with equal quality?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pokumz Tech: Some equipment will not put out full quality over the component cables.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: HDMI will pull 1080p whereas component wont, and hdmi is all digital (in most cases) and component is analog (always)
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: okays :) thnx
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: but your comcast cable only broadcasts in 1080i, so your gonna get the same resolution with both cords
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: hdmi is still prefered tho for the all digital signal
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: usually download most of tv i watch. haha
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: is there actually many 1080 channels out there?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: thanks for your helps
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: aint most 720?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: 1080i/720p
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zefoj Heafmo Tech: I wurve my 1080p
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: espn2 hd is 720p
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: not many on 1080p unless your using sattelite
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: Anyone have an iPod Nano 5G?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You.       Dashiell Tech: that's like asking if anyone has herpes. Everyone does, but everyone is ashamed to admit it.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: Dash, thats not herpes, you were born with it.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Flat Tech: actually, nothing is like herpes, but Dash has a point
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: Nah. PS - I am going to leave 50 hallowed lights in your clan area.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: aww, what a threat
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WeaponGuy Tech: Actually, only about half of people have herpes.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Oh the horror!
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Dash, you better take that back now! :P
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You.       Dashiell Tech: Ever had a cold sore? That's herpes.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: I am trying to figure out which version of the iTrip works with the iPod Nano 5G.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You.       Dashiell Tech: try the iThrow instead of the iTrip.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: And the hallowed light thing is a long running tradition between Bard and Crusaders. You wouldn't know Watchmen/Light. :P
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You.       Dashiell Tech: because iThrow it away.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WeaponGuy Tech: No. Only people with herpes get cold sores.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You.       Dashiell sits down and thinks deeply. 
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You.       Dashiell has never had a cold sore.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: that's oral herpes, everybody has it.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: those that kiss stramgers get cold sores 
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Really R. Bigman Tech: no I don't
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: Anyways- moving from herpes: anyone know about iPod Nano 5G and the iTrip?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: never get cold sores here
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: i know there going to be 2 new iphones 1q/early 2q 2010
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: That doesn't help. :P
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: i know what ipod nano5g is. and what itrip is
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: and fm transmitters aren't very good
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: Oh, you're quite wrong.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: If you live in the middle of nowhere, they work great.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: i don't live in middle of nowhere :)
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: My dad does.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: buy him a new cd player
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: and dock
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BoogieMan Meka Tech: what is zmud's programming language called?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: zscript
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: broken
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BoogieMan Meka Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Myrmidon Myrkul snickers with Iron Duck Chuft about their shared secret.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: For future reference, Cmud's scripting language is similar to zmud's, right?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: quite similar.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: So if I can write stuff in zmud, I should be able to write stuff (i.e. re-write all my stuff) in Cmud without too much re-learning?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Well, there's a whole reference manual on Zugg's site.  Take a look.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I don't use either, so can't say.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: nod, most zmud scripts work with few changes in cmud
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: mostly.  It'll kinda depend on exactly what you were doing in each set of scripts, since CMud will have better, faster, or different ways to do it.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: all your scripts will work, or at least only need to be fixed by having simple things changed such as  in quotes changed to  without quotes
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarvo Tech: what would be the best client to use with aard?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: what sort of experience are you looking for, Aarvo?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarvo Tech: what do you mean?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aarvo, no such thing :-)
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: currently I would say mushclient, due the fact it's offered from aard site. 
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: are you wanting a quickstart experience with little or no scripting knowledge, or do you want to do things entirely your own way?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: mush is great for people who want to use a powerful script-capable client but don't want to learn how to build their own
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarvo Tech: im entirely new to mudding, i have no idea what scripting is
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: I personally think Mush is total crap in the interface department, but from a "what can it do?" standpoint it's just as good as CMud.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: actually mush requires alot of knowledge if you want to build your own so that "doesnt want to build" is quite wrong
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are plenty of already-written scripts, so the doesn't want to build is entirely correct
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: simple user interface, easy to access scripting, simple commands. take cmud. If you want all hardway, take mush
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: there are plenty of already-written scripts for most popular clients though
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all of the main clients have both pre-existing scripts, and people willing to help and/or write scripts
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: mush just has the advantage of them all being in one place with one install
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Most of what I've seen MUSH doing ought to be considered botting
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarvo Tech: how so?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You pat Starling on her head.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: mush is great, worse than zmud, but you will not waste time on mush if you know even little of coding.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: funny, plenty of people who program professionally seem to disagree with you
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Auto-updating gq mob lists, clickable mobwalks, etc.  It's botting, just unprovable.  I mean, really, if you want to go play WoW, go play WoW, don't turn Aardwolf into AardWoW.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Well, DIAF anyway Abe, you mean nothing to me.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: starling, I'm referring to foren, not you
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but nice to see that you are as lovely as ever
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: clickable mobwalks is not botting
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: point being in coding part right abelinc? I said that if you dont know scripting or coding
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, z/cmud practically invented clickable walks
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: if you don't already know scripting or coding, don't use zmud
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: it uses its own language that you can't use in anything else
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: if you're gonna bother to learn a coding language learn a useful one
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: first one to create easy to access multiusable database plugin for aard will get name in history...same as these xbroadcasts etc
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I know scripting just fine :)  Just think that bypassing traditional GQ time-wasters ought to be illegal.  It isn't... hell, you can get away with more than ever these days... and my opinion won't change it, so there is no debate.  Just saying.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: you can also use lua and any script language supported by microsoft via the older MSS engine or the newer MSH engine.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: ruby, perl, lua, jscript, vbscript, etc
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: When I finish T9 and take the time to switch to Cmud, will probably jump on the bot train myself, but until then.... :)
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: indirectly, nod, but it's not built-in to zmud
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: i want clickable mobwalks :( lol
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: making a script for clickable mobwalks is a lot easier than making a database of mobwalks :P
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: the older stuff is, actually, but that's just jscript and vbscript and MS is dumping one or both of them.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: myrkul tell me about it :P
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: i'd do it myself if i didn't have to run around and find the sws to 5000 thousand mobs to make it somewhat useful :P
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: computers and computer languages were invented to reduce tedious chores, but some wannabe-neanderthals want to forbid the use of scripts in computer games
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: ruby, lua, and all the newer languages have to have their dll's installed and registered separately, but once they are they are easily accessible.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: wouldn't it be easier to use map to go to mobs than making out mob walks in first place?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: nope
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the map would need to know where the MOBs are (or you'd need to know the room)
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: nod, but after you have them it's even easier :P
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: the map can store more than just name/desc/exit info
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Mordenzein.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: when Malina attempts to win a few gqs, that "use a map suggestion" is going to fizzle badly
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: I use the map for coordinate placement
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: fast use of maps in gqs requires a photographic-memory for details and instant-recall-of-those-details plus nimble speed-typing skills 
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: a good db and some triggers to look up the info/format the text you see could help with that
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or just better maps
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: you need the map for other things, but I see no reason why the two cannot be incorporated together
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: map to explore allt he rooms to make mob walks? rofl
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: scripts assist memorization, since decent scripts are usually spot on
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: mobwalking is going to be a quick way to lose a gq
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: scripts don't assist memorization, scripts mitigate the need for memorization
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: frantically running around like a clueless-script-avoider spoils memorisation 
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: making errors often reduces skills
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: all the scripts that I have are scripts that help my memory. ie. does the simple things that are required to enter area, (pay gold, say things) etc. but  I cant rely on them. there is way too many chances to screw up things...
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: you need to write better scripts, then
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they supplement your memory
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: they are my memory at some points
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: They are ginko b iloba, then?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: cant really make script to get high council in talsa since it's bot at that point
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: you can if you have completed the goal
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: giving gold to mobs is botting?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you can if you carry parts
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: nod that too
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: abelinc doesn't have any parts
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft, The Ladies Man, asks you 'How dinky is your wang?' Better lie.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: requiring the parts, is the botting part.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: ginko biloba supplements are placebos
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: in your mind
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: did you notice that those that profess to take lots on mind-enhancers look like zombies
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: really? did you finally look into a mirror?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alavesa Tech: will this aardwolf client work on a mac if i install parallels?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stickyicky Weed Tech: Ok.....im on a laptop using vista and my screen has shrunk since last night
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stickyicky Weed Tech: I don'
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stickyicky Weed Tech: I don't think I changed anything, but I did install diablo II and run it...it wouldnt play it would just show up in task manager processes
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stickyicky Weed Tech: but it finally opened on its own like an hour after i gave up but it was a small screen and now my pc is running everythin that size
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stickyicky Weed Tech: Anybody have any ideas or am I not making any sense?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bakasama Tech: sounds like your resolution got switched up
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nakami Tech: what happens if you go to display properties and change it back?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bakasama Tech: I may be over simplifying it
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stickyicky Weed Tech: Ok lemme make it clearer I am computer ignorant
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stickyicky Weed Tech: I don't even know where display properties is
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bakasama Tech: trying to remember for vista, I think you can right-click on the desktop
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: right click desktop
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bakasama Tech: display properties or similar, one of the bottom options?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladavar Tech: personalize
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stickyicky Weed Tech: aparently i clicked the wrong thing because my pc crashed
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: did you click the 'crash' button?
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stickyicky Weed Tech: but its all good because it fixed itself:p
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I do that a lot.
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stickyicky Weed Tech: but the game is still running in a small window
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stickyicky Weed Tech: anybody have any ideas how to fix that
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: diablo 2 isn't fun getting to run in vista/7
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bakasama Tech: getting anything to run isn't fun in vista
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Just curiouse, how many linux users are there here and what client do you use. (I'm on ubuntu 9.10 with tintin++)
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nakami Tech: i switch from ubuntu to windows and use mushclient :)
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: i'm guessing more in tech than general pop of mud :P
T1/r7/2009-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: ubuntu 8.something and MUSHclient.
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: should i still use ffdshow? or get rid of it?
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: guess i don't have it configured anyway :-\
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: ... and yes i'm mudding on an hdtv
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: well, hdtvs are really just big monitors, so that makes sense.
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: is it possible to add certificates to trusted providers on a domain policy level?
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: that is a really interesting question.  I would assume so as long as you could specify where to get the root certificate from.
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: any idea where in the GPO tree i should look?
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: "Computer Configuration > Windows Settings > Security Settings > Public Key Policies" looks like it
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: question 2, what's the cert manager called again :S
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: certmgr isn't it :(
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: it is certmgr.msc  http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-vista/View-or-manage-your-certificates
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: well, for Vista.  I think it was the same in XP.
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: .msc *doh* i'm an idiot sometimes
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: not that it matters, i used firefox instead :P
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: too many extensions to track.
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: bingo
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: domain machines now auto accept the self-signed certs that the svn and vmware servers use :)
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: when running a log in ZMud is there a way to add a timestamp to each line?
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dizzyworm Tech: anyone can tell me why my cmud map wont open the doors?
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Biff Tech: does anyone know of a good tutorial for MUSHclient and writing plugins?
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: yes, there is an excellent one on mushclient.com, check the forums
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chicomecoatl crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely to Gonf.
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Biff Tech: thanks
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: here's the link:  http://www.mushclient.com/scripts/forum.php?bbsection_id=1  Click on the "Introduction to scripting"
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: what's the ascii for a cr/lf ?
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: 0d 0a
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: \cr
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: (cr)  13 ... (nl)  10
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: uhh, none of those work. trying to use them in a text editor
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: Hm, Habasi, the code is 13.
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: od oa is the asm equivalent, not what I'm looking for
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: Not sure what you want though.
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: hmm, lemme prepend with a 0 and see what happens...
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: Yeah, 0D 0A would have been my bet, but what are you using it for?
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: Is it a text file?
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: heh silly me, shoulda done that first. thanks
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: putting text somewhere and it's stealing my blank lines, trying to forcibly put them back
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: Heh.
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: 0dh 0ah  or  x0A x10  or  the decimal 013 010 convention or maybe there is an octal default in that old software
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: lol
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: er 0dh 0ah  or  x0D x0A
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: nods, 0d/0a are hex so they had to be 13/10. prepending with 0 solved it. I was being nubbish
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what is slightly annoying about Linux textfiles (from a dos-user perspective) is that only (lf) is used and that some Dos text-editors insist upon a (cr)
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: Yeah. Well, the converse is annoying too :P
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: dos textfiles usually stick in both the (cr) and the (lf)
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bakasama Tech: Anyone able to point me to a starting guide on Triggers in Mushclient?
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: I got the weapon switch plugin from the gammon site and studied the trigger in it.
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bakasama Tech: -0h10
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: fail:)
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: 0h -fail
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bakasama Tech: epic fail, rather
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: not that epic
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: only moderate
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: epic fail is me mistyping 'oz' 5 times yesterday during a gq
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bakasama Tech: haha
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: epic fail is like odysseus mocking the gods before heading home after the trojan war
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ira Deorum Velian is agreeing with that .          Jilted person again...
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: although that might go beyond epic fail to just plain stupid...
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: actually, being that the tale is an epic, I think that may qualify as the DEFINITIVE epic fail
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bakasama Tech: Odysseus set a high bar for us to follow
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: good point jilted
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bakasama Tech: Trying to setup a trigger for when I level, do I send the trigger text to echo to test it?
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salvanas Tech: ye
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salvanas Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: in zmud either echo or #show
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: echo is a mud-side channel, it will work in any client
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: HelpMePlz! Trurien rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bakasama Tech: And is it only sent to me?
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Also they explicitly said MUSH, so why bring up Zugg?
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: nod, it is send to only you.
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: help echo
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: its just a blank channel.
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bakasama Tech: just wanted to make sure, so if i happen to test something difficult I don't spam others 
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: channel to yourself...no one else
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: I just echo'd foo, did you see it?
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Chicomecoatl,  Bakasama requested "a starting guide on trigger in Mushclient" over an hour ago, a lot may happen in a hour
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: In anyone know how to do the equivalent of raw_input(), that the command won't have the ' around the new variable?
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: In python that is.
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: Anyone have experience w/ SSD in laptops?
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arfwolf Tech: does it require experience?  what's the question? :s
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: Well if someone has not used one, then they won't have experience.  Certainly wouldn't ask a Windows user a Mac question.
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: Well, just ask the question and you'll probably get more answers :)
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: NP, someone sent me a tell.
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: *Yay!*  Go Cytan!!!  HelpMePlz! Trurien cheers him on.
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arfwolf Tech: not to mention there's no difference between SSD and drives with moving parts
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: Thus, why I did not ask you :)
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: Isn't there that theoretical write limit?
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: you are incorrect sir
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arfwolf Tech: I mean, from a tech standpoint, not a performance standpoint
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arfwolf Tech: unless you're opening it up
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: Again, you are incorrect.
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arfwolf Tech: then maybe you should have specified what bus it's usi
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arfwolf Tech: using
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: I would classify the write limit issue as a tech standpoint, but I guess I know what you're saying, that they are storage devices just like the regular magnetic drives. :)
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: Would be quite wise to not speak unless you have experience, thus, why I asked my first question - if anyone had experience using SSD.  Because you will find that there is a very significant difference in every way, both physically and logically.
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: Yes, they are both hard drives.
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: Cytan: enlighten us :)
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arfwolf Tech: Not from an administrative standpoint on the computer
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, no, they're not both hard drive...and no, there is not a difference logically
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: Yeah, if you have RAID or LVM, then you can even combine drives :)
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: oh hell! did it occur to you that he didn't mean from an administrative standpoint ?! just stop speaking unless you have something pertinent
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: Or 'drives', as it were.
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: HelpMePlz! Trurien chuckles at . o O (  ) Habasi's joke.
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cytan loves starting crap :P
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arfwolf Tech: I think the point, Habasi, is that asking to ask a question is begging to start a flameware
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: Flamewar, even, but I beg to differ.
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: take the enis measuring somewhere else please
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: I asked earlier but got no response, does anyone know of a command, in python, like raw_input() but that won't put ' around the created variable. For exaple if I were to do name = raw_input() and typed Chicomecoatl, the variable would be 'Chicomecoatl' 
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: So you want a string that isn't classified as a string?
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Exaclty.
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Exactly*
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: I think it would not be possible, but then I don't know much about python.
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: You probably want to try a lower level language like C.
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: Where you can have arrays of characters, or something like that.
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: The quotes are just to delimit the strings, I'd imagine most ways of handling strings in most procedural languages involve quotes.
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: You can have arrays in python as well. I could do name = [Chicomecoatl, Trurien, Tech] and it would read them as strings without the single-quotes.
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: Of course, I'm not saying there are no lists or arrays in Python.
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: what are you trying to do with the vars that the quotes break it ?
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Just some experimenting, its not for any exact reason. I just like knowing what it can do before i screw myself because it can't do it.
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: HelpMePlz! Trurien rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: It seems to me to be .. "inconceivable" :P
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: will string.replace("'", "") work after you raw_input()?
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: Sorry, just watched a certain movie a few days ago.
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: errr...replace("\'", "")
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: Or could you define your own copy of raw_input() perhaps?
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I dunno think that word means what you think it does
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: aye, could write a function that does both
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: . o O (  ) Habasi snickers with you about your shared secret. 
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: You know the movie?! INCONCEIVABLE!
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: had pauly shore, so i didn't watch it.
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A bright, shiny gold halo appears over Cytan's head.
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: It is kinda ugly though for a script that requires input. if i do name = raw_input("What is your name?")\ print "Ahh, so your name is", name because it would print as Ahh so your name is 'Chicomecoatl"
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: lemme give string.replace a shot.
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: name.replace("\'", "") does nothing
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: The variable still shows as 'Chicomecoatl'
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: hmm.  not sure then.  i've done some very basic things w/ python, but not much string manipulation
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Oh well, i don't forsee it causing any issues other than the appearance.
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: Chicomecoatl: how are you writing it? Just for curiosity's sake. I'm learning a bit of Python too.
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: name = raw_input("What is your name?") >>> name.replace("\'", "")
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: Is there no other way to get input?
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: I bet if i do print 'Ahh so your name is", name | It would output "Ahh so your name is Chicomecoatl" since single quotes strings ina  row concatenate to double-quted strings.
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: You can do name = input() but that only accepts intigers
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: integers*
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: Yeah, I haven't quite understood the thing about quotes in Python.
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: Meh, it's a miracle Christmas Eve wine lasted so long :P
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Chico:  Can you use sys.stdin.read() instead of raw_input()
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Try this pdf it works great for newbies (like me) -- http://www.ibiblio.org/swaroopch/byteofpython/files/120/byteofpython_120.pdf
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: I could if i were to import sys in the file first i suppose.
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: Ah, you didn't import sys? Didn't want the overhead, or what?
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Wasn't too concerned with it, i was just running it from terminal to mess around with.
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: anyone know a reliabel program to convert dvds to ipod?
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigRichard Rampagne Tech: reliable
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: handbrake
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Can you put isos to ipods?
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: If so try the program devede
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadow of Achelon Tech: anyone know how to write or find a script that will track the number of healing and mana potions i have and put it in the info window in mushclient?
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: Anyone remember offhand a light text editor in Linux that reads rtf?
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: gedit seems to complain that it isn't a text file :)
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drtoki Tech: tried vim?
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: I normally use vim, but I wanted to see the RTF in effect, not the codes.
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: Unless you're suggesting I use gvim?
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: why would you need to ever see anything other than what vim shows?  :)
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: For fun. :) I feel like not reading the slashes today. Humour me? :P
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: Though normally I would agree with Balaam :)
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: ok, I'll humor you.  A guy walks into a bar.  The second guy ducks.
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Fail-funnt
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: That's not humouring me ... *swings bar at Balaam* :P
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: funny*
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I apparently use OpenOffice for rtf...  so much for lightweight.
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: Yeah, I wound up using OpenOffice anyway :)
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: OpenOffice rules for everything, cuz its free.
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: I tried opening it in the browser.
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: What is the command to update python in Ubuntu 9.10? I downloaded it and made the file, but unless i do ./python from terminal it defaults to the 2.6.1 version
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: the command of python will run 2.6.1 and ./python will do 3.1.1
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: Oh, why don't you just make a symlink to the newer version in /usr/bin/ or something?
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: try which python to see where its pointing
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: Maybe rename the original one to python261 and use python as the new one.
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: you couldn't upgrade python with apt-get?  that should update the binaries/paths for you
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: It might not be on the repos, maybe ... I'm not familiar with the Karmic repos.
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Gonf: Tried that i get the "Blah is already the lastest version 0 updated 0 ugraded blah blah blah"
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: nods, you may need to tell apt-get to use a package thats newer than "stable"
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: How do i do that?
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: Gonf: Assuming the repos are already in place.
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: its been a while since i've used ubuntu, I can't recall off the top of my head
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: apt-get install python/unstable ?
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Still learning Ubuntu, so i don't know what to do.
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: Just saw something similar recently ... google apt pinning.
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: E: Release 'unstable' for 'python' was not found
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: nods, its either a switch or you may need to add a repo that has newer software
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Any idea how to add a repo?
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: check out the wiki:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: kk
T1/r7/2009-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: I found the 3.1 in the synaptics package manager, will that do the trick?
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immortalis Craven Tech: anyone have a suggestion on a good router? mostly console gaming priority
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: mmm, XPS M1530 laptop with Core 2 Duo T7250, 2Mb Webcam, 4Gb Ram, Slot DVDRW, Gforce 8400, almost worth repairing
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: 2Mb webcam? :O
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: yes! can't beat those 2Mb webcams! they're like 10 Megapixel memory sticks
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i always find this part terrifying
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: this is how you can tell laptops were designed for chinese
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: western geeks have no chance of taking it apart - need fingernails
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: REAL MEN use watchmakers screwdrivers
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: bloody dell
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: they made the inverter attach directly to the bottom of the panel
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: means if (and if is the appropriate term so far) a generic panel will connect up to replace it, the inverter will be loose, i'll have to use glue or somesuch
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: grr
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sloog Tech: hello, can someone help w MUSHClient?
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: Just ask, Sloog, just ask :P
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sloog Tech: i see all the widnows , but the names of CHAT is behind the main window
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sloog Tech: and BIG MAP is all but a sliver hidden, only see when it's the top active
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sloog Tech: hello?
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: May have to wait a while, Sloog.
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sloog Tech: lol :(
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sloog Tech: i cant 'tell' yu Foren
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: i'm on linux and I'd like to make window which displays which cp/gq mobs i've got left, anyone know of a good program for displaying files which update all the time?
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: tail
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: windows
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: tail -f <textfile> would help.
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: tail's good for chat dialogs, but only adds lines rather then removes them
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: Yep ... you could have conky do the refreshing for you, perhaps :P
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: so make whatever script writes to the file add the right number of blank lines to push everything off the top?
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: Conky's a system monitor. Just update the text file and make conky display the entire text file.
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: Bit of an ugly hack, but I only thought of it because I have conky running at the moment.
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: i'll try what cartman sugested
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: i'm not using conky so it might take ages to set up
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: OK :)
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelpMePlz! Trurien Tech: I could send you my conky.conf, if you like :P
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: i'd like to take a look, thanks
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sloog Tech: Furen yu out there?
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Applecorn Tech: uhm somthing is wrong with my chats
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: tags off
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Applecorn Tech: i see {chan ch= } before each statment
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: tags off
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: tags channels off
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: like I said
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: will clear just that one and leave the rest, if you want them
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Applecorn Tech: lol , ok - how'd know that before i even stated problem?
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: because when people say HALP somthings wrong with my chats
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: it's a common thing
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: its always tags
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Davos is clarvoient
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Applecorn Tech: ic , well lest i'm not the first bug'd one
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: . o O (  ) Habasi looks at Dino Bot Davos and swoons in ecstasy.
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Applecorn Tech: my help no longer open in a window
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Applecorn Tech: it prints on main insted
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: because you toggled all tags, instead of just channels
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: which is why I stated the alternate option of tags channels off
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "tags"...does the HELPS line say YES and the QUIET line say NO?
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: help tags -> tags on
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dino Bot Davos looks around and whistles innocently.
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: or at least I'm assuming you did, as Davos suggested
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: moo davos
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: . o O (  ) Habasi puts her finger in her mouth and says, "Oopsie! Did I do that?"
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Applecorn Tech: well i see every other yes/no
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Applecorn Tech: so not all are "on" or "off"
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: just type tags on and then tags channels off
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: what he said, as well as what Abe said
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Applecorn Tech: bigmap , coord , helps , map , mapexit , mapname -- those are all YES
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Applecorn Tech: seems Says and Tells was YES also, but turnd them off.  do i want any of thos off?
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neravar Tech: using Zmud, anyone know where I can get a script for a failed spellup cast? or how to create a trigger for it?
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: you lost your concentration casting *, cast "%1"
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: clani crimson
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neravar Tech: ahh thanks
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: they have a decent one, use that and save yourself some coding time. or cannibalize it to suit your needs
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: nomnomnom
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadow of Achelon Tech: is there one for mushclient?
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: prolly links on the aard mush page
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the guy that wrote MUSHclient itself wrote one, and bast improved it...
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=8780 has the original, and http://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/Aardwolf_Spellups has the updates
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: #trigger {^You lost your concentration while trying to cast (%w) (%w).$} {~cast '%1 %2'} {sclass}  <-- does not work with cast 'minor creation'
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: minor creation isn't a spellup
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: ^You lost your concentration while trying to cast %1 c '%1'
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Shut up Zade, er Xyliz.
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: but that crude trigger catches a failed minor creation
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's why the trigger shouldn't live on its own...it'll also go into an infinite loop if you never practiced the spell
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: shutup Delg er Charneus
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: infinite abelinc? wouldnt it work at somepoint since using spell increases %?
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: like I said, use rimso's or cannibalize it. the info you need is there if you're willing to do the work
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Well, not infinite.  You'll eventually land it successfully... :P  Just might take you a few hundred casts.
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, try it foren
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Yes, I'm Delg. :P
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: eventually you'll run out of mana
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'll run out of mana before it works
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus pats Xyliz on her head.
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charitable Charneus nods at you in agreement. 
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and can sleep to change the error message
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: wouldnt it stop when you run out of mana?
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we already said that, foren
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: that's what abe just said (me too)
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: you said infinite 
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nice to see you keeping up, foren
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: I'm slow today. sorry :D
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Thats a stupid way to do it anyways, xyliz.
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Not all spells are 2 words, so just use affoff.
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neravar Tech: the trigger You lost your concentration while trying to cast %1 cast '%1' wont that only catch the first word in the spell and since several spells begin with the same word might try to cast the wrong spell?
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: anything written nowadays should be using spelltags, as I said on q/a channel before it moved here (not using tags makes crimson's script clunky)
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: a simple trigger is more convenient than something that zmud may choke upon. Chicomecoatl 
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: #act {^\{\affoff}%1,%2,%3,0$} {c %1} then you can add checks about if its because of mana cost, or already affected, etc
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: {^You lost your concentration while trying to cast %1} {If (%1!=@noReCast) {c '%1'}}
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: pseudo but that'll get you close
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: %1 catches anything, it's equivalent to (*)
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: wouldnt adding to spellup list spells be more efficient? you have one list of spells you know and you dont have to worry about others ? :D
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neravar Tech: yeah I saw, it caught the period as well =P
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: #trigger {^You lost your concentration while trying to cast (%w).$} {~cast '%1'} {sclass}  <-- is the other simple trigger of the pair -- as anybody smart 'd deduce on their own
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: yesh, pseudo. just trying to point in the right dir and not write the whole thing
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: pseudo make me a sandwich
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: . o O (  ) Habasi says, "SAMMICH!" and a sammich flies from her head at Tenlorn!
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: gah this convo is killing me!
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: You do not know a '(%w)' spell.
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: . o O (  ) Habasi gives .          Jilted the look of death.
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.          Jilted Tech: habasi used to like me now he hates me
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: I only like you on tuesdays and thursdays
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Xyliz, don't be so stupid, use * in one trigger instead of %w in two triggers.
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Using * is bad
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: I think he's just trolling now
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Slows down your client
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: speaking of trolling
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: . o O (  ) Habasi starts slamming her head into a drum repeatedly.
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: TROLL!! EVERYONE RUN!!!
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alaken Tech: Not a real troll. Lacks a bridge.
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Use spellup tags.  Problem solved.
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chicomecoatl nods at Charitable Charneus.
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: join a bot clan and go play football instead
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: I just run spellup twice. Doesn't take that much longer, catches most of the missed casts.
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: football or soccer?
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: #ACTION {\{affoff\}%1}={#if {"$autospell" == "active"}{#if {"$position" != "You are Standing."}{#list {waiting} add {%1}};#else {#delay {1} {#if {"$position" == "You are Standing."} {c %1}; #else {#nop};}}};#else {#nop}} {5}
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: yeah, the mud provides a wonderful spellup command
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neravar Tech: the script from crimson assumes you have all the spellup spells from all the classes?
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: to be honest, simple AI would solve whole coding part of scripts. You better start building one efficient AI for everything that includes spellup :)
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: chico, you're solving a different problem than the OP ;-)
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emir Icebergovich Tech: no Neravar
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: no, it has a nifty help system that tells you how to use/toggle it
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: -> helpspellup
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: we Redskin fans are better off with soccor
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: use best spellup trigger is #5 spellup in zmud :)
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: And this one for the failed cast -- #ACTION {^\{sfail\}%d,%d,%d,%d}={#if {"$autospell" == "active"}{#if {%2 == 0}{#if {%3 == 1}{c %1 self};#else {#if {%3 == 6}{#list waiting add};#else {#nop}}};#else {#if {%3 == 1}{#list failed_other create;#list failed_other add {%1}};#else {#nop}}};#else {#nop}} 
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: In combination will basically keep you spelled.
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: in mush Chico ?
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: No, you can convert it to mush script if you want to use it for mush though, its not hard.
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: oh, I just assumed it was mush as I know that's what you use. my mistake
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Chicomecoatl, the use of * in zmud is fraught with error and lag, prefer to avoid the use of * in triggers (and avoid nasty surprises.  in some muds, anomalies join two lines into a single line - the * likes those)
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, you only cover regular lost concentration and recovery fails
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: I don't use mush habasi, you know that.
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: ... * is bad in zmud and cmud, makes it horrible slow
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: if you know how * behaves you should know how anchors behave and also know to make your triggers as precise as possible
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Nod, i don't have a protocal for no mana, no magic room, eetc
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: the * is only bad if you have lots of triggers.  The name of the game is to fail early, rather than to match early
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadow of Achelon Tech: i just royally messed up my mushclient
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: reformat your hard drive
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: kidding!
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Mush is nice enough for users you really can't do anything irreparable.
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadow of Achelon Tech: not a good sign...initaard isn't even working
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: with zmud, triggers require to be designed to avoid freezing the zmud when zmud forgets to do something
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: thats why its better to switch to cmud :)
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: just remove initaard, it screws up your game anyways eventually
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: initaard doesn't screw up anything
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladavar Tech: Question for C mud users.  I have 4 windows undocked from the main cmud window scattered across two monitors.  One window is my main Aard window one is for something else we'll call that window X and the other two are a map window and campaign list window.  If the Map and Campaign list window are both under window X  is there anyway to bring them into view if I click on the main Aard window?
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: X is for botting, haha.
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: use the mouse to drag Window X
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadow of Achelon Tech: lmao...mushclient just spammed me with 30+ error messages
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: does cmud have a label at the top called 'windows' like zmud ? if so it's there
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: yes Glad
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dino Bot Davos nods at Charitable Charneus.
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: if you still have the main cmud menu bar, use the Window command to select the window
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: X is always bot
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: if not check view
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: you can also use CTRL-N to cycle through them
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladavar Tech: I know i can use the window bat to get to them,  what i'm looking for is to bring the map and CP window to the front just by focusing on the main aard window.
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladavar Tech: window bar *slaps head*
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: nope, nothing like that
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: they should have a stay on top option
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: use that
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, you mean when you have other programs in front, you want all cmud to pop to front when you focus on one
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Gladaver, do what Charneus likely does, and use two different isps to multiplay Aardwolf 
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: heh
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladavar Tech: never mind I just docked the map and CP window to the side of the main aard window and stretched it across to the second monitor a little
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Gladaver, how much money did that two monitor computer cost
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: I'm not sure a standard package would include a two-monitor card, so figure on the card and possibly another monitor.  Maybe another 300-500 to start, with more for better quality?
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charitable Charneus Tech: Mine was free... dual monitors are awesome... I just wish I had triple monitors.
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladavar Tech: when I got it not alot due to the fact i had a decent job.  it would be a fortuen now due to the fact i'm broke and unemployed and jobs are few and far between around here.
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladavar Tech: it's just a cheap Ati 2600hd card I think is wat it is like $75 for that.
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunsele Tech: i have these symbols ( ]> ) appearing at the bottome of my main window when i am fighting. does anyone know what they are and how to get rid of them?
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gunsele, they're likely part of your battleprompt
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: YOu prompt?
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: there are inexpensive two monitor cards -- i use a pci two monitor outlet card which with software allegedly also handles the mainboard monitor
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: most of the expense is in the other monitor
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladavar Tech: *nod*
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunsele Tech: i toggled prompt off and still have the annoying symbols. i have no idea what i did to make them appear
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: just like having cheap printer hardware but really expensive ink cartridges
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: but putting two crt monitors on a small desk is likely to get cramped
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladavar Tech: my goal one day is to have two big screens lol.
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadow of Achelon Tech: anyone know of any fixed-width fonts other than courier/courier new?
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: only your reg prompt toggles off afaik. type 'auto all' and look at your prompts at the bottom. see if what you're seing is in one of them
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: umm, fixedsys?
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Just change the bprompt.
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Or jsut type bprompt and toggle it off.
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadow of Achelon Tech: hmm...it looks like everything is in bold..
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: just use a word processor and cycle through the font options until you find something that allows your columns to line up properly
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunsele Tech: bprompt worked...thanks :)
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, an easy way to check is type "iiiii" on one line, and "wwwww" on a second line
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: then just write that font name down so you can go through them for comparison
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadow of Achelon Tech: ok thanks
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadow of Achelon Tech: not very many of them..
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadow of Achelon Tech: lucida console is a nice one
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadow of Achelon Tech: testing
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadow of Achelon Tech: chats echo off
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayiru Tech: Question... Does a sound pack exist, and if so, for which clients?
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadow of Achelon Tech: what's that plugin that highlights the important keywords when you take a quest? i lost it when i uninstalled and reinstalled mush
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadow of Achelon Tech: or not highlight but change the text color
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadow of Achelon Tech: how come when using the aardwolf client, when 'chats echo off' there is still a carriage return in the main window?
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadow of Achelon Tech: just a blank line
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Its a line where something has been gagged, can't get rid of it.
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: not even with suppress?
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenzein Tech: you probably can, though it's just not being done.  Cmud's doing it, after all
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadow of Achelon Tech: i like how rauction isn't gagged and sent to the chat window along with all the other stuff
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: where would I find the vista equivalent to xp's 'add/rem progs'. (yes I know vista is crap, thanks)
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bakasama Tech: i think you can just type programs in the search?
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: I'll see how that works out
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bakasama Tech: or open the control panel, and click on programs or similar
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arfwolf Tech: does mushclient do aliases?
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arfwolf Tech: is there any way to create them via command line?
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arfwolf Tech: (expecting to hear an rtfm :p)
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: yes, with a script command.
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: addalias:  http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/function.php?name=AddAlias
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arfwolf Tech: oh, sorry, I meant the input box inside mushclient, not from a shell
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=9705
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: arfwolf, that was for in the command window.
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arfwolf Tech: looking to do the equivilant of #alias second {second=%1;~second %1}; #transp {get %1 ont;rem econd;hold %1;enter;second econd;put %1 ontainer}; #alias rec {transp can}
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arfwolf Tech: woops, hold on I'll put two @'s on my variables
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Follow Abe's link.
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arfwolf Tech: =\
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, what I posted will let you do #alias <what you want to type> {what ; you ; want ; it ; to ; do}
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arfwolf Tech: where do I add it? :s
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: do you see the line that says: "Install this alias, see:"
T1/r7/2009-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rig Tech: Is there any way to use spellup tags to get messages from other people you buff when the buffs wear off? Or do I have to write that all myself?
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: In zmud, how do I make the trigger editor not automatically break lines when using a semicolon in the { } of #IF statements?  Never have been able to figure it out.
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: The trigger works just fine, executes all the commands, just looks really awful/confusing.
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Sigh, figures.
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Yet another reason to SH silent
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Mis.
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: is there a toString() function in Lua?
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neravar Tech: I know this is completely unrelated but my tracert command isnt working im using vista 64 bit, is that normal?
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: it's not broken, it's a feature
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Foren Tech: j/k...that aint normal :)
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neravar Tech: that blows, how do I trace the route to an ip then?
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neravar Tech: >.>
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sloog Tech: i cant grab the Stat window to move it, the title bar is under the toolbars
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bakasama Tech: Windows -> Cascade, then rearrange as ya want
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sloog Tech: der *facepalm
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sloog Tech: much better , fixd
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FireNinja Tech: hello, i cant see the colors anymore, why noy
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Angelic Skyluke Tech: you are color blind ? More seriously, with MushClient ?
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FireNinja Tech: ja mush
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FireNinja Tech: fixed it
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Angelic Skyluke Tech: i was searching where it was again :p
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayiru Tech: hmm, I keep being kicked off... friend is on another computer, but same IP
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paublo Tech: why does using the big map disconnect me
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: because you're not using mccp compression
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paublo Tech: how do i do that
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: use a client that has mccp built in, or connect through a proxy server that puts mccp in place for you
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paublo Tech: ok
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kryon Tech: how do i get mush open another output window and filter to chat only
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kryon Tech: off
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kryon Tech: how do you get mush to split up output like it shows in the screen cap
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: are you using the custom aardwolf mushclient, or just the normal one from the mushclient site?
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kryon Tech: oh just the generic one off their web page
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrmidon Myrkul Tech: download the custom aardwolf one then
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: make sure you remove the old client files
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Anyone aware why when i change the PATH variable in my terminal to include where i keep my pythin scripts, it doesn't save? I have to redo it each time i open a terminal.
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: put it into your rc file
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: .bashrc, .cshrc, etc, depending on your shell
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nothing about a shell is saved between shells
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Overfiend Tech: is there anyway to mud from your phone?
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Felt Tech: help mxit
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mxit is the worst of the possible ways to MUD from phone...
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: better to get a telnet/ssh app for your phone, such as pocketputty or midpssh
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Don  Arxe Tech: indeed....
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Overfiend Tech: cause i can normally use my comp but im just wondering so i can quest while im out
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and the best possible way is to get the telnet/ssh app like mentiond above, create an account on a free shell server, and run a real MUDclient on that server...telnet/ssh from the phone to the freeshell, then MUD
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Overfiend Tech: ok, that sounds complicated to do
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: CLI clients such as tinyfugue or tintin++ are available, which would give you full access to scripting/trigs/etc when on phone
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you use the shell server method, that is
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Anybody mind if I ask a few new-to-tf questions? Like what separator to for entering multiple MUD commands?
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: it doesn't have one iirc
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: is it true linux users all have beards and are called Mike?
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the separator is %; by default
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: neg
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: your name Mike?
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stranton Tech: neg
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and by default, it will only separate commands when used in the body of macros/functions...
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: My name ain't mike, nor do i have a beard
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to make it work when just typing commands, you can do it as a 1-time thing using /eval foo %; bar
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or you can change the substitution variable.../help sub
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: changing the sub variable will allow you to make everything parse fully on the command line
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Thanks, exactly what I needed. I understoodd the macro separator. Now with SUB set to FULL it evaluates like I wanted it to.
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and farky,  what about those of us who are called Mike, have a beard, but don't use linux?
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well, you're clearly using the wrong thing
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Everybody uses Linux, but they don't realize it.
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Next new-tf question: Can the channel descriptors be modified? Change {chan ch=question} to just {question}, e.g.?
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: sure, but why?
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: are you Mike?
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rig Tech: What client are you using?
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: I just think the 'chan ch=' part is extraneous info.
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apprentice Oladon Tech: well... the tags are meant for use in triggers, and triggers don't care about extraneous info
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: altho it would be nice if it had the persons name in the tag
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the tags mean that you no longer need 20 triggers to capture global clan channel :-)
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Anyone know how to do a multi-line trigger in tt?
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: often the easiest way in clients is to have the first line create a temp trig that grabs the next line & compares it
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Anyone know a way, in Ubunto 9.10, to "group" windows together?
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Ubuntu*
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nogs, install windows xp
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Lol
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: juts curiou if anyone has any opinions on laptops.  I'm looking to buy a larger size (needs to have numpad on keyboard) and also the ability to run higher end games, but not necessarily run them at peek graphics, just run them successfully.  Looking also to try and keep the price range "low"
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: don't buy them, they're crap
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: i guess thats an opinion, but not necessarily one that is useful to me.
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: I picked up a dell inspiron 1720 as a "large" laptop about a year ago and I think it's quite nice
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: It's not superfast although it's quite large (I wanted a big screen and numpad)
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: people shouldnt play high end games on laptops
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: I don't carry it around with me most of the time unless I'm traveling, and it can run pretty much anything I want... and it was pretty reasonable at the time
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: and why is that ageha?
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: there are laptops out there as good as any desktop
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: why play a high end game at low settings
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: seems counter productive
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: like buying really expensive whiskey and mixing it with coke
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: cause i enjoy the actual game, not necessarily concerned about fancy graphics.
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: whats the game?
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: and my computer is kicking the bucket, so i need a new computer and laptop seems more effective then a desktop considering i'm in college and have use for it all around
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: theres plenty of laptops out there they can outperform desktops
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and they're all naff
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: a variety, but specifically SC2 and Diablo 3
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ira Deorum Velian nods at Dino Bot Davos.
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: davos yes i can make a pen that can out perform some desktops
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: however
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: for the same price a desktop can outperform a laptop
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: laptops are generally expensive for what they offer, break easy due to bad design, and have limited specs
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and are damned expensive
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: to repair
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ageha nods at Tigernuts.
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if you can find the parts at all
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elysias Tech: but you can balance them on your head, which you can't do with a desktop.
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: are you two living 5 years ago?
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: and get really hot if you want discrete graphics
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: laptops have become significantly easy to upgrade and much easier as of late to work on
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: yeah desktops will always be easier to work on cause of the space.
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and cheaper to fix
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and more powerful
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: I own 3 laptops, all are nice and expandable.  Plus their omg dont say it, Mobile!
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: velian go buy a mac mac seems to fit you
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: mac?  you kidding? if i wanted a childs toy i'd buy a freaking leap frog
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: seems to fit you = more money then brains?
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: I own two laptops, one goes with me everywhere
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: one of them*
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: macs are super expensive for their hardware
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Macs are pretty with no kick
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ira Deorum Velian Tech: yep
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dino Bot Davos Tech: OSX is nicer for some environments tho, like developer environments etc
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: pfft osx blows for software development
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: you can argue graphic developments but not software
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: if you want a good OS use linux, if you want compatibility, use windows
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Or go in between and use Ubuntu
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: ubuntu is linux
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Barely
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malina Tech: i use jolicloud on my netbook lol
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: it's very windows, but still uses the linux kernel
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: It holds your hand enough that you don't screw stuff up, like windows, but it lets you have free roam for the most part like most linux OS
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: yeah, it's not gentoo lol
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: unix
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Nah, Ubunut is Linux, not Unix
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: oh i know i was just throwing unix into the ring as a contender
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: i enjoy solaris
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Ahh
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: DOS
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: os/2?
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Biff Tech: uCOS?
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: is OS/2 yet around -- seemed better than win98, but win2000 offered a few extras features over win98
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ageha Tech: anyone else have pandora one
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: for awhile, some were hoping that OS/2 may stomp Windows microsoft into the ground
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: what's everyone's favourite bookmark synchroniser?
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: everyones*
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: I'm going to use that line on a nerdy girl tonight, thanks
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: yw
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaomiqui Tech: heh
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: lol, nice geeky way to start a convo anyway. :)
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: xmark and delicious look nice... but i don't like the idea of unencrypted 3rd party storage :(
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legebrinde Tech: Anyone know where I can download Cantrip (the mud client) for Mac?
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legebrinde Tech: Or maybe another good Mac mud client?
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: Isn't Cantrip just like a level 0 spell?  Find a mage.
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: here's a link: http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/12214&vid=105116  No idea how current that is.
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legebrinde Tech: Balaam, the link there is dead.
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: apparently not very current...
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legebrinde Tech: Oh well, any other suggestions for Mac clients?
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: hrm... the one on findmysoft.com seems dead, too.
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: run MUSHclient through wine, or darwine, or whatever it's called.
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: Tintin++ or Tinyfugue, or you could always run Mush under Wine/Darwine/Parallels
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: I have some script for tt, and Abe has some for tf, so whichever you choose if you dont' want to run wine, you have some support.
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: or ditch the Mac and get a real computer.  You know, the ones with all the viruses and malware.
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legebrinde Tech: Alright.
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: You know your computer sucks when people quit making viruses for it.
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: screw that, ditch the Mac and go for a real Unix system...
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Go Ubunut
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legebrinde Tech: Actually I also have an Ubuntu laptop on hand.
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Ubunu*
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: is your name Mike?
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: And i have a beard!
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: there you go
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: get an abacus and use your imagination.
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chicomecoatl snickers with Tigernuts about their shared secret.
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: mike doesn't tell anyone to go linux :P
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: just to tf.
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: See, i tell them to go tt
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, MacOS is real unix, linux is not
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: I didn't say Linux was. :)
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: It's a direct derivitive of unix
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: linux is not a derivative on unix
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it was created as a workalike
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I'd say macOS is a BSD derivative?
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Linux was based out of the Unix kernel.
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: linux is unix reverse engineered.
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MacOS is BSD
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no chico, it's not
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's right, mike, MacOS is BSD
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: no, Linux was a reverse-engineered free Unix. 
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, farky's all proud he figured out my name is Mike despite me having a public email address starting with "mikeride" since I created on here
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i didn't find out like that
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Lol, thre were people who didn't know your name was mike?
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blessed Balaam Tech: I thought his name is Abe...
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Blessed Balaam looks around and whistles innocently.
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicomecoatl Tech: Note te self: To avoid prompt spam, do not accidentally hold down spellup macro
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meranides Tech: How do I sort my inventory output?
T1/r7/2009-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urwin Tech: with a script