T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: anyone familar with yashiro's spellup?
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oh god
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: people still use that?
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: or can you point me onto a better one? :P
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: hey its on your site! :P
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nausicaa Tech: spellup :)
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: its pretty good...
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's on my site for purely historical reasons
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: lol
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: must be accurate documenters of historyt
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: just switch to mushclient :)
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: haha fair enough, so get rid of it? stupid thing keeps casting my already casted spells lol
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: someone told me it just got a revamp?
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: define "it"
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: well was the client recently upgraded?
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: define "the client"
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: lol
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: has it been changed in the last say 6 months? mushclient that is
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hahah yes
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: see the other half of my site
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: is that screen shot the client with a bunch of plugins or do those come with?
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: click on downloads
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: hmm wierd. using basts v6 stats miniwindow script and it seems to stop updating. no longer reflects my current qp and preciously did the same when i leveld. had to disable/enable it to get it to update
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: does your prompt end in %c?
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: i don't use a prompt..
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: what's the %c do?
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Carriage return
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: is the carriage return supposed to be there or no?
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but if you don't use a prompt, then it won't matter
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: ok
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: still not updating
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ask bast. *shrug*
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: when i do a whois i get "Trigger function "whois_end" not found or had a previous error." message now
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: where can i find font changes in the mushclient fiendish?
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ouptput settings
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: press Alt+5
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: got it thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: when i hit F1, which i made a macro for it prompts with "failed to laung help" can i disable this?
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there's an option you have to enable for setting fkeys as macros, I believe
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: well the macro works, it just prompts with the unable to launch help as well :S
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's in global preferences under the file menu
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: "F1, F6 are macros"
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's a checkbox
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: probably stops that from happening
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: thanks man!
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: sorry one more question.. cant remember what the these are "{coords}0,30,20" to turn them off
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: sounds like you were using bigmap?
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: type tags coords off
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if you want, Bast has a bigmap plugin that is part of his v6 script package that drops on top of my mushclient release
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: ok time to idle and leave you alone. Thanks for the help!
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: hi!
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: Ellu :3
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: anyone expert in using Vyatta?
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: anyone got an app to spit a terminal into panes?
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: linux... i had one before i forgot its name
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: its terminator :D
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: anyone else using atlantis?
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Democratic Armenia shakes her head.
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: I heard it fell into the sea
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Democratic Armenia looks around and whistles innocently.
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: my AV software auto scans anything I put in a USB slot. Is there something I could put on a USB drive that would scan any computer I plug it into? or any idea of how to facilitate this behavior?
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urughak Tech: could look for something on portableapps.com
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: thanks. I'll dig through there and see what I find
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urughak Tech: looks like clamwin and spybot, but think youd have the manually start em up
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: so i mentioned this last night and no one had any clues. I'm using Bast's minwin_stats plugin for MUSH and it doesn't seem to update with changes to the stats once the window opens. It shows all the stats I had at connection but, for instance, it doesn't reflect a loss of HP or gain of QP...
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: and i dont use a prompt so it's not the %c that someone mentioned yesterday
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RagingFury Tech: i just downloaded the newest version of mush and it has a stat window that works fine? maybe you need the new version?
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Vagus, it uses gmcp data just like the one included in aardwolf, do you use any other windows that use gmcp data?
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: i think the problem i'm having is stemming from the error I get when i do a whois: "Trigger function "whois_end" not found or had a previous error."
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Then there was a previous error.  The content of that error is what you need to tell us.
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: reload the broadcast_whois plugin, type "whois" and paste the error to pastebin.com
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: http://www.google.com/intl/en/jobs/uslocations/mountain-view/autocompleter/index.html
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: april fools! :P
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: yea, they always have a descent one
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: nod
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: http://mail.google.com/mail/help/motion.html
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Good typing skills (at least 32,000 WPM).
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: is there a way to tell if cmud mapper is using gmcp
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: yep, open up Preferences and check the Protocols section.
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: i have room 1
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: if the GMCP tab's GMCP Emulation has a checkmark next to it, then the mapper is using GMCP.
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: ahh ok 
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: what's the problem, or were you just curious?
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: yea do i need to set it up any configurations to read the rooms right
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: well, you won't capture any descriptions without a trigger, but it should work ok without them.
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: you will also want to turn on the Real VNum stuff that uses the GMCP room num sent by aard
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: the wizard isn't properly detecting exits and all that good stuff
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I think that's a bit of a bug.  You won't really need to configure anything, since the GMCP code ignores all that anyways.
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: the real vnum stuff is found in Map Config in the speedwalking section (use vnum to match rooms)
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: ahh ok i have that checked
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: and, finally, slow walking is broke with regards to GMCP.  Safe mode is currently the best mode for it.
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: ok i use that mostly anyways
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: is it hard to script a trigger to cap room desc
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: not really, but it's a tad more involved than handling the name/exits taglines.
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: nah, just use the old-fashioned tags
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: ok
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: what I use for the roomdesc trigger is this:
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: state 0 is #trigger {^~{rdesc~}$} {#gagspace;rdesc = ""}
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: what do you mean by state 0
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: state 1 is #condition {^(*)$} {#if (%1 = "{/rdesc}") {#state tRoomDesc 0;#if (%maplocked() = 0) {#call %roomdesc(,%expandlist(desc,%cr))}} {rdesc = %additem(%1,rdesc)}} {manual}
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: state 1 is #condition {^(*)$} {#if (%1 = "{/rdesc}") {#state tRoomDesc 0;#if (%maplocked() = 0) {#call %roomdesc(,%expandlist(@Rdesc,%cr))}} {rdesc = %additem(%1,rdesc)}} {manual}
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: lol i don't know very much when it comes to this scripting stuff lol
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: what cast bast spellup 'bsp' to halt?
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: what causes bast spellup 'bsp' to halt?
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Ask him. I do not know. I just click on the spell name on the brief mini-window.
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: there is a miniwindow in bsp?
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: if I feed python a path is there something built in that says "tell me what folder you're in" or would I have to lstrip, or something similar, up to the last \ ?
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O (  ) Habasi Tech: I found what I need
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torio Tech: uhm i just downloaded the aard client for windows 7 but its just showing extract files ?
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it comes as a .zip, no?
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torio Tech: ja but dont know what to do should i extract
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: well...you probably can't run it if you don't...
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torio Tech: got a folder,box with books. And i think books all name aardwolf mud client what now?
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torio Tech: ok im on my pc now lol
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: man, ubuntu support for my ipod touch 3g 32g blows, i cannot find anything that will actually cop music to it successfully.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Apple products are all garbage
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: amarok, gtkpod, hipopod
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: apple products only work with apple products
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: They couldn't be arsed to just allow drag-and-drop on the damn thing.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: the ipods rock man, i love mine and i have been an apple hater since aIIe
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I have an ipod touch and it's essentially unusable, I can't do anything with it.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: Read the manual.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: but i hate the itunes connection they rty to force us into
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's a fine product. it's just that Apple is not a freedom-loving company
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: ^
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: i have been off windows cold turkey for about six weeks now and this ipod thing has me considering going back to winxp  *ugh*
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Itunes is the worst thing about it, it's the worst program ever written.  They were stupid to not allow drag-and-drop and/or for it to be mountable as a network drive, if nothing else.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: i agree, sjobs is a cock holster for that
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It's a real shame, because I would love to get some use out of it, but alas, it's just not possible.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: Sjobs is glad millions of other people don't agree with you both :p
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Steve Jobs should be shot dead
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: ubuntu is finally becoming comfortable to me (except for my losing sony vegas/adobe premiere)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I hate apple, but i love their ability to sell stupid trash, and that's why i'm making money on their stocks.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sneak enthusiastically high-fives FootLong Cheezburger!
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: i can use tge ipod without a computer, but jailbreaking makes life so much easier
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I feel bad for my poor ipod touch even, I wish I could just copy my music to it without hassle :(
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: mne too, alwthough once jb it is cool having a touchscreen linux machine (pretty much anyway)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: We shouldn't have to 'jailbreak' it in the first place.  What is their problem with letting us do what we want with what we purchased?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: control, power, jobs is drunk with it
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: you know, you guys could choose to just buy another non-Apple product
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It was a Christmas gift, Sneak
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: if you haven't seen the futurama 'eye phone' episode, see it!
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: If I'd have known about it in advance I'd have told my mom to return it
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: season 6 episode 2
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: i already dropped nearly a 1k on three ipods. lol, i love em and aint gonna take any lesser knockoff
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I don't own a single apple item, i just buy their stocks for the silly goons who do :P
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: do you love them because they're easy to use?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: hmm, you'd have to use one for a while to see
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: No, people who buy apple product buy them because their 'shiny'
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: they are in fact good products that just happen to be locked into a walled garden
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: i still have some apple stock i bought in 91. :) 
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: And because jobs is a markey genius
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i don't think they're particularly great
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: market*
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: creative made better players imo
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: still, if I had to choose between mac and windows, i would choose mac
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: fortunately, I can choose linux instead
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I wish i could sell stuff for 5x their actual value and have a large customer base still
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it takes serious skill to do that :p
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i respect jobs for that
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: indeed
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Don't like his company, but you can't argue he's done better than he should have with it :P
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: its jobs' mantra to only sell things at 2x profit.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: My ipod touch is a couple of years old now, 8gb.  Can I still upgrade the software or whatever?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: yes you can.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: the new nanos are addictive as hell :P
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: got one of those a couple weeks ago, grin
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It's just a shame that it doesn't do drag-and-drop, because if it did I would use it all the time.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: its fun!
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: how the heck do you get addicted to a music player?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: man, i just realized that apl is selling at 340+ a share. I bought in around 17. lol, and several splits later...hmmm
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I thank you for making my stocks rise :P
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: you're welcome Cheez :p
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: well, after I bought it, I had to get a mount for my car, just because it fit so well
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: snrrk
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: and then, I had to get a motorola s10-hd headset for working out with it
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: time to diversify that investment soon. lol, hate to have a bad keynote set me back lol
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: so when all was said and done, I use it a lot more than I intended to or than I had with previous apple products like my old ipod touch
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: size is exactly what I want in a music player :P
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Another of Job's awesome tactics, buy this -- and this for this -- and this to help that do this -- and this to make it do this -- oh and this because it looks cool when you use the other things
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: anyways </stupid rant>
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Again, Steve Jobs should be shot dead.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: Along with anyone with a color in their name.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I keep saying this, we need a rant channel :)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox snuggles up to Redryn.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: cos you're too stupid or lazy to use a product properly?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: You may not like him, but you can't help but respect him nonetheless
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: hating sociopaths should be shot dead
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: I use immtalk, myself
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Because of poor product design.  It should have drag-and-drop access, and should not require Itunes to update.  It's bad design, 100%.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i think it's brilliant product design, it means it's hella hard to switch out from apple products
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: And of course, idiot hipsters buy right into it.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: and you say this because?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: if millions of people can do it, I don't see why you can't...
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Because it's bloody frustrating to use, that's why.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: And this is different from windoze users how?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: they work fine, as long as you use them exactly as intended. I never use products as intended, that's why I dislike them.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Exactly, I want to do what I want with my own property.  I fail to see the problem with this.  It's not as if I'm violating any laws.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I like to, erm, *coughstresstestcough* what i buy.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: cheez, lets compare investments in aapl, mine is up 8007.1% lol, i havent looked at it in years
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I'm up 8.7% :)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Alot less :P
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: woot!
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: over 150 shares
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: ive prob had mine longer
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: since 1991
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: 150 shares or 150 lots?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: nods, mines only about 4 or so years old.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: 150 shares, 150 lots would be HUGE money
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: heh, for a moment i thought i should start sucking up :p
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: initially 1200 shares here
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I bought it through my parents when i got my first job
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: lot is 100 or 1000 shares in US?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: 100
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: to be fair, there are a lot of companies that you could have invested in in 1991 that would be insanely good investments
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: mmm I prefer my Google shares
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Bah, you all distracted me and i forgot i could quest.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I wanted some google shares, but $640/share was out of my money range, especially with 2% commission
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: grin, when they first opened, they were at $75 ;)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: what amaru said :)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: yeah, but i have 4800 shares now are 340+ each. thats a pretty nice return for fire and forget
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: might be enough for that condo ive been looking at
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: actually, it was $85 at start, Amaru
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: google scared me too much to get in early, but the UPS ipo i got a nice block of shares
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: nod
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: a friend who managed to get goog at the ipo, sold immediately at 120, thinking he made a bargain. he is still leaving to regret, with me calling him finance genius....:)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: I still have them from the $85 initial offering
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: hang on to them :)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: i would ghave loved a piece fo that action for sure
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: definitely, it's up by almost 1 percent again.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: about $592 now.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: should open an aard invetnment club then :)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: lol :p
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: damn, aapl lost 1.13% today and i lost $18k
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: with new channel ...tech is somewhat unappropriate!
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: on paper anyway
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: technical analysis
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: tech channel
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: oh, I see....
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: what did you expect, it is friday
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: I like how SBUX is going atm.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: it's saturday, not friday
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: fri selloff can suck sometimes
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: wouldnt surprise me if this pulls back to 3teens before te next push back up after summer
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: if this libya crap keeps pushing oil we could get a summer long rally
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Who the hell leaves the federal distribution warning on a pirated movie?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: mis
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: ignore that, it's not channel appropriate
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Straxxus dials the FBI.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: "Yes. Is it ok if I leave the FBI warning on my pirated videos?"
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: lol, i do it
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: how do i get mush tick counter back 
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: check in the plugins directory
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: did you find it?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: hi fiendish is it possible to flag room as norecall/noportal
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: not right now
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GentooX :)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: maybe not ever
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: unless you make your own mods
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i see, thanks a lot
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'm not willing to make the mapper as complete as I am able for mostly political reasons relating to encouraging botting
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: to a certain extent, the present one already allows for it :p
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: be careful making your own modifications, though. don't make it too difficult for yourself to merge in future updates.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: what is the default command completion combinations
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: in mushclient
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: can i completely re-map an area with the mapper plugin? like remove the old map i have and start over? the purgezone command isn't what I'm looking for.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I disagree.  Best I can understand from your question, purgezone is exactly what you're looking for?  It simply removes all the rooms from a specific area allowing you to remap them.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: well I did that command but on the visual map, all the rooms are still there.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: the ascii map? that's generated game side..
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Are you referring to the minimap?  That doesn't change.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: no on the mapper plugin
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: I think you need to restart? rooms are stored locally once loaded  Ithink
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: It will remove if you've used the correct keyword.  What area?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: ahh gotcha. brb after restart then :)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: I'm re-mapping land of the beer goblins
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: mapper purgezone beer
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: that worked, thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: does it use the same keywords as the runto command, then?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: the restart or the new purge command?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: the purge command with the keyword xaxz provided
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: ohhh
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: I had used the full name.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: The purge command worked.  It uses whatever the area is named in the gmcp info.  I haven't tested to see if they're one in the same
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I'm fairly certain it's always the same keyword listed in "areas keyword <area name>"
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: learn something new everyday, thanks xaxz :)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: anyone familiar with triggers in mushclient?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: easier if you just ask the question
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: how do i get triggers to work in mushclient? they arnt working properly
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: what is going wrong exactly?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: they just arnt going off at all when they should be, like it wont trigger off "Your cleave" like it would in zmud
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what's the pattern
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: are they enabled (checkbox at bottom of triggers tab)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: well it was just "Your cleave" but someone told me to convert to regular function
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: and they are active
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if it's regex, make sure the anchors aren't placed wrongly
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: $ signifies end of line
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: what does your trigger look like?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: ah it says "^Your pierce$" 
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: remove $?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: hmm nope
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: is the tick for regex enabled?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: That's the problem... it's only looking for "Your pierce"  The line you're triggering on is "Your pierce MUTILATES blah blah.."  You can try "Your pierce *" and remove regular expressions
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: is anyone good at SQL queries?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I'm decent.  What do you want to do?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: nice thanks Xaxz :)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: lol, doing a school project actually. kinda hard to explain though, but I'll contact you later if need be =P
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fantomex Tech: Lets assume that I want to video chat with someone and whenever I say something, they don't really hear me... what do I do?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: turn your mic up
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: you could always visit them in person
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: or scream louder 
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and make sure that your input device is set to whichever mic you're using
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: You could move your mouth and just type what you want to say
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: but typically - those porn sites they really cant hear ya
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: Also make sure your mic is not muted, either by hardware or software.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Anyone have trouble getting custom exits to perform correctly in the Kingsholm seals area?  (Aardclient GMCP Mapper)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: also valid would be recording the sound earlier, then moving your mouth and re-playing the sound recording.  out of phase, if possible.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Anyone have trouble getting custom exits to perform correctly in the Kingsholm seals area?  (Aardclient GMCP Mapper)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: nope.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I can get it to work nicely.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: there's custom exits there?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: Hmm, it's a tough call whether spamming is faster than triggers
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: mis
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: there's one room to open altar to open a door to the west
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: not sure if thats what he's talking about
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: No, I mean setting up custom exits in each room to "open e;e" etc
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: If you have all the keys already, that is.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, that's a whole different animal, xaxz
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: open east;;;;run e
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you need to update your mush
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Oh?  What is happening that I don't know about?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: mapper cexit open east;;;;run e   That should do it.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the custom exit of "op e;e" is 1 room away...so is just moving e
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Filst Tech: Anyone using MushClient on OS X?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so unless you're using the latest dev version, there's no guarantee that the custom exit will be the one chosen
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: filst, plenty of people are (gammon was for a while iirc)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I see.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: xaxz, there's a whole thread on this on the tech board
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Fiendish just updated the aardmapper.lua and Mapper itself too.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Ahhhh... ok.  I don't subscribe, I'll have a look.  Thanks Abelinc.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: filst, mushclient works under wine, parallels, boot camp, fusion and crossover :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I'd use mushclient if it had wasd bindings :(
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Filst Tech: yeah i'm using it right now, with x11, launched with playonmac, but i'm not doing it quite right
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: entopee, it does :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Filst Tech: tech was hoping maybe someone had a similar setup and knew how to gethings set up initiailly right
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Abelinc, tell me more - Only thing that came up for me for WASD was accelerator stuff, and I didn't know how to implement that
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, accelerator is just what wine calls "using any key as a macro without needing to hit enter"
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Wine? Looks like accelerator's a mush thing
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: however, note that the big disadvantage to binding wasd to movement is that, y'know, you won't be able to type "tech what's up", since you'd be typing "tech n<enter>hw<enter>t's<enter> up"
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I'm using <ctrl> as a mask
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You giggle.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: How the mudlet does
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, much better ;-)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I also have F9-F12 vim bindings but unfortunately it's not home row, and on the same side as the enter key
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the accelerator helpfile shows examples such as "Accelerator ("Ctrl+K", "kill")
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: is there any way to copy a line from the mud and paste it with colour in cmud? I know zmud had this feature but cant get it to work on cmud
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: set up color syntax in prefs, same way as in zmud
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it's at prefs -> ansi color -> color syntax
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: WASD and the preconfigured Mudlet tags controls are the only thing preventing me from moving to Mush, along with the fact that Wine doesn't play well with xmonad
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: unfortunately its not working ):
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: oh well
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you'd do "Accelerator ("ctrl+a","west")"...but you'd put that into the box that comes up after game -> immediate, since you're executing a script command instead of typing into the command prompt
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Let me bring that up right now, as a matter of fact
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Must MUSHclient be run from terminal? Running it from Nautilus gives me an invalid path error
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: might be able to make a link to it so you can click via gui
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it doesn't need to be run from terminal, but it'll need its path to be known to it
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Not a big deal, I can just create a 1-line bash
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: But back to where we were
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Filst Tech: in the mushclient can i have my typing echoed to the main window?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Just a min while I change clients :)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: filst, yes
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Okay, I'm in Mushclient
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game -> configure -> commands...top checkbox
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: echo my input in <specify style/color>
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Filst Tech: oh, clarification, can it echo as i type?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: echo as you type? What do you mean.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it does echo as you type...in the input area
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Filst Tech: yeah, i'm just not used to looking there, i've played on telnet style clients in the past
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Filst Tech: i'll adjust
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it won't be echoed to the main window because it's not sent yet
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Filst Tech: thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a line-based client, not a character-based client
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: better telnet-based clients operate the same way, btw ;-)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Filst Tech: its pretty cool to have maps and stats and such on a hud
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tinyfugue and tintin++ both have a visual mode that keeps input and output separated
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: FootLong Cheezburger nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Whew, going to take a lot to make this like the preconfigured Mudlet :(
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we implemented an in-MUD visual mode in a MUD I played, wow, 10-16 years ago now :P
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Ok, back
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so ya got mushclient all configured? :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: No, not all configured - still have to do aliases, triggers, everything - but I have to figure out this accelerator stuff before I delve into that
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you paste in what I typed?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Didn't know where to paste it *shameface*
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: And it's lost in mudclient :(
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "tech -h game"
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not lost in mudclient when Aard has channel histories ;-)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: OOH IT WORKED PRETTY
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: repeat for the other directions & you're good to go :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: next step, finger bast, download his plugin folder...between the stuff that ships with aardmush and what bast has available, you'll probably find that you don't have too many triggers to make
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: MWAHAHA Thanks Abelinc, this is pretty cool - as for bast, I've tried using his stuff but doesn't a lot of it overlap?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Not much overlap at all, actually
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's modular
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so he's got a foo_broadcast to grab the raw info, then foo_miniwin to display it
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: So if I just put it all in and do "import" and select all, I should be fine?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: read the info on the plugins, just add the ones you're interested in
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you add them by going to file -> plugins, click add
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: after you've unzipped the folder called "v6.1" into the mushclient/worlds/plugins folder
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Ok, great - was just worried about dependencies but I guess they'll reveal themselves when I try to add them
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, for the most part, it'll auto-add dependencies
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the one that it doesn't auto-add that I'd recommend is the miniwin_tabbar...it's kind of a master control for his miniwin stuff
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I'll make sure to add that first
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (note that my knowledge of mushclient and bast's stuff is based on paying attention to tech channel...I don't actually use mushclient myself)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: What do you use?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm an oldschool geek, I use tinyfugue
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I wouldn't recommend it to most people
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I tried Tinyfugue
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Woulda gone with it because I'm a fan of minimalism, but I've found minimalism doesn't work (for me) for this game
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it just turned 21...I've been using it for about 20 years ;-)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I have a number of scripts for it that make it a bit less minimalist...channel capture to other windows, same for automap, hp/mana graphs for your group, etc
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: That's dedication to a client I can't afford :(
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, no more dedication than to other clients...download script, import it :P
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I like that with tinyfugue, if I can get somewhere with a telnet prompt, I can have 100% of my script functionality...ipad, public computers, etc, even if run from thumb drives is disabled :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Now that's a thought
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: midpssh on cell phone, ssh to computer running tf, screen -r & I'm logged in right where I left off
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Sorry if I'm seeming unresponsive - having fun adding these plugins
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah, it's always fun configuring kewl new stuff :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I think I'm set, just need to add aliases now
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: For emulating Windows
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Thanks for all the help
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Anyone using firefox 4 on ubuntu having issues with the adobe flash plugins?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I always have problems with Linux and flash
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: It's just a question of "which problem"
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I'd talk with you more, but I have to eat now, sorry (double had to come right now :( )
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: hadn't had an issue insofar, just when i used 4.0. The flash videos and such have random black boxes and patches in it, but not on firefox 3.6.4
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: i been having adobe plugin crashes pretty regular lately
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: thought about installing the gnu flash plugin instead
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: More headache
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: there's a third alternative altho the name eludes me atm
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Abstinence from youtube
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: my adobe seems to crash more when i have say 7-10 tabs versus just 1-3 or so
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I think flash and firefox 4 are generally flaky on linux, the plugin dies consistently here on slackware, I've gone back to using 3.6.16
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: maybe jnothing to it
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Actually, no issues with youtube, just umm, a specific other site atm.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: stay away from the youporn man
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: redtube :P
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I think I know the kind of site...I've seen similar problems...not on my pc though, honest :)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Apparently it's a wide known issue because the instant i said that my flist asked if that's the site i was talking about.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: i know mine has crashed a lot on youtube and imdb
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: will sudo tar cvpzf /pathTohomebackup /home backup the entire profile?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: my tar-fu is not so strong
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: what do you mean "entire profile"? you referring to .profile?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: more like my entire home directory
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Should
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: tar cvf myfile.tar $HOME should work
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: about to do a full install of ubuntu, been running on a wubi install with windows deleted for a while now lol
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: sweet, thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: then sudo tar xvpfz /myfile.tar -C /home should restore it to the new install
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: if i read the man file right
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Filst Tech: anyone have exp using playonmac?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: Is there any reason why a cexit that looks like "open <dir>;<dir>" is not used by the new Mushclient when going to a room?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: define "new" mushclient
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: do you have the latest version?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: V4.72 from Aard's website.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: latest as in, not from aard's website
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: Ah
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, that's not new enough...the priority was changed in a development release
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: basically, your cexit of "op e ; e" is 1 room away, but just going "e" is also 1 room away
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so finger fiendish, go to his site, click mushclient, click downloads & use that r397 snapshot :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Is there any way to forget spells on the mushclient spellup plugin? (I already know about forgetskill, which this plugin bypasses)
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type spellup help
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Exactly what I was looking for, thank you
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hezek Tech: My ZMud paths, aliases, etc. aren't working.  Is there an easy way to reset them or something?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: aardwolf mushclient r414 snapshot is available on the dev site
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: how do i change the command stack character for mushclient?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: alt-0
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: thanks 
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: hmm, how do i store a custom exit of open north and then walk north? :P
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: mushclient mapper that is
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: is there a way to specify a strict case match - no more/no less than what i entered into mapper area/find? e.g. mapper find cell -> currently returning rooms like 'dank cell' 'dark cell' 'cell' etc, where i only want rooms which are strictly just called 'cell'
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: zmud's mapper does that automatically
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: referring to mush mapper* :P
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apocolyte Tech: simple question,how would you open mushclient after its downloaded?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Double click MUSHclient.exe
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apocolyte Tech: uhm,it gets saved as a zip file,how do i go from there?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: unzip it? :P
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Oh, yeah - right click it and you should see the item "Extract Here"
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaotu Tech: extract all files to a directory of your choosing.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apocolyte Tech: hmm,takes a hour to download
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you must have a terrible internet connection then...
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apocolyte Tech: yeah,downloads at 2.3kb/sec
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Sounds like dial-up
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apocolyte Tech: wireless actualy
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Maybe you're somewhere where your carrier has to "outsource" the service :(
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apocolyte Tech: anyone know where to get metabot rom for gameboy advanced?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daresia Tech: in default mush, is there a command to force reloading the stats window?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type protocols gmcp sendchar
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daresia Tech: great, ty
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not client-specific, is a MUD command telling the MUD to send all character info via GMCP, which is where the stats miniwindow gets the info
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mardus Tech: any good vba knowers here?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: whats a .ogg file?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vorbis sound
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: lossless sound file
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: a file extension for music files, ogg vorbis
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: Ooooo lossless
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: http://www.vorbis.com/faq/#what
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: it's not lossless
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: It's not?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: someone said it, not me
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Are you looking at Linux file extenions?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheezburger goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: I figured anything digital is lossful
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Abelinc starts being unhelpful and citing helpfiles: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogg
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Damacius: also not true
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Don't worry Abelinc.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: helpfiels outside the mud are always fun
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: damacius, opposite of true, really...analog is always lossy, digigal can be lossless
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: to within, say, fundamental limits
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: I thnk u may be mistaken
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: analog is true lossless
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: so such a file wouldnt be needed to run whatever i was running if i didnt mind not hearing it?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You shake your head.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: you saying analog is trash, digital is it, I find Analog is supieor to digital.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: cant get any more lossless than a old vinyl record
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, analog has no technology for accurate reproduction
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: therefore, lossful
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: ur exactly right, you cant reproduce analog
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: not in digital
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Throw that record, hard, into a wall -- look, it lost quality
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: the problem is more that you can't reproduce analog in analog
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I rather have analog then digital.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: take the vinyl, copy it to another and you lost fidelity and gained errors...take a CD, copy it to another and you have an identical copy with no loss
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: no true
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abel Tech: lossful and lossless are based on data transfer quality, not audio preference
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes true
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can you morph it, and unmorph it, without a change
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I would say get better gear to transfer.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you would say, but you'd be wrong
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: better gear can minimize the loss
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: i like being wrong
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cannot eliminate it
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's the whole reason that dolby made so much money...analog media's limitations
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: No, you need to research better Abestupid
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fiendish coughs loudly.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: man that made me laugh out loud
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you need to not attack, and research can only show what exists...
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: There is no player with that name.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: analog in theory is more accurate...analog in today's technology is not
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Now You know why I call you ABESTUPID.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Saatai: you're wrong. that's ok. personal attacks are not.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and pretty much any advancements in technology will benefit both analog and digital storage and reproduction, so digital will likely be more advanced for the forseeable future
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: maybe if i ask a different question it will start a different argument
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gofer it, cide :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: i find it entertaining
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: when i think of one ill try it :P
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: It's not an attack Fiendish, just my personal opinion of the idiot.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that would be the third attack...
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: calling someone an idiot is a personal attack...
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majic Tech: referring to someone as stupid IS a personal attack.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: it's too bad that you're wrong, then, Saatai.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Saatai: Stop now!
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how many times have you been told this, saatai?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majic Tech: and abelinc is obnoxious, but he's not an idiot :P
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Majic ducks defensively.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: i like obnoxious people :P
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: that sounds very familiar...
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Majic grins evilly at Fiendish.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: well thats your opinion.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: My opinion is mine.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: stating said opinion is still illegal...
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsogswrH6ck
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majic Tech: it's also the opinion of the people who run the place, of course, if you wish to continue until forcibly silenced that's your prerogative
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: i dont like being forcibly silenced
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: am I stopping him from rambling on?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majic Tech: no, but calling names is against the rules
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Calling him names, when he done proved?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Do you just not understand the concept of a personal attack?  It's a verbal (typed, whatever) attack upon one's person...like calling them stupid.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majic Tech: whether or not it's true, calling him names is STILL against the rules.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Well I apologize to Abelinc then, tell him to shut up and research better.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how can I research better than knowing the current state of the technology?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: Is your time machine still broken?  I sent you those parts last week...
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Abelinc you don't.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majic Tech: erikson, you should say 'next week' :D
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: that's easy.  just add "Neo" to the front of everything, abe.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: No, next week I send them two weeks ago   :p
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: Will send.  Will have sent.  Willen of-senden.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: so, next week, they'll be a week late....
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I am sorry he makes himself look this way, not an attack, but technology changes so fast.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Saatai: Drop it now please.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, I've gotta stop making myself look correct and knowledgeable :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a hard habit to break, though
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: and about analog
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: No you make yourself think you know all, when your way behind.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: analog has waves that dont stagger
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: its a "true" sound wave
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: They do if you get 'em really drunk.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: digital is only one fraction of that wave
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: damacius, the discussion was not about analog. it was about analog reproduction
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: however, digital sound reproduction is a true sound wave
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: one little milisecond of a true sound wave... one digit at a time
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: no it's not Abelinc, it's not a wave.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Say what you will, I've sliced my finger open, and it won't stop bleeding
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: analog to digital would be an infinite amount of data
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: If your digital sampling is at 1kHz, you've got a pretty sad ADC   ;)
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes it is, saatai...it just does not cover all possible sine waves
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: OoooOOooo...you could star in the new workplace safety video: "Blood on the keyboard"...
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: no it's not, it's bits and pieces where analog covers it all.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: exactly... you can copy it to whatever refresh rate, or hertz... but youll never get every nanosecond of sound into that digital
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: Not really.  Since the universe is fundamentally digital, analog representation is at best an analogy to what's really happening anyway...
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Saatai: It is a sine and possible cosine waves. That is a true statement.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: universe isnt digital, it's analog
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: damacius, nor will you in analog
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: Max Planck might disagree with you.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: the universe is quantized. that means it isn't analog.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: yes u will because analog is true form of sound, or light
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: it's a true wave
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ooh, too bad you added light
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Yeah, it's pretty disgusting.  I've got blood coagulating on my F,G,T,R and B keys.  Oh, and V too.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but the discussion was not on theory, it was on applied...
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: (not that you need to get near the planck scale to hit the limits of what can be said to be 'analog' about sound waves...   just get to angstroms and you're already at the wall)
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: See, if you used Dvorak you wouldn't have that problem   :p
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: when the analog revolution comes you'll all be up against the wall
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: ok, let me ask this question, digital is 1 or 0, where as analog can be -0.1 to + -.1,
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: ....'cause the dvorak keyboard repels blood?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: saatai, nope
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Saatai: no, that's stupid
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: analog is not digits at all
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: Some of them.  But it wouldn't be on the same keys at least.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Apparently, Tye...
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: thats why its infinite
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: It's not the blood on the keyboard that's so bad, it's the blood in the cole slaw.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: cause even .1 is digital
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: It's not the blood on the keyboard that's so bad. It's the crotch the blood came from.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I am say maybe I am stupid so educate me.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Syntax?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: but I know analog is supieror to digital
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it just cannot be reproduced accurately
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you believe, erroneously, that analog is superior to digital
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: sound is composed of tiny particles called soundicles.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sneak claps at Fiendish's performance.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: it is... period...
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in an ideal world, if we could record and reproduce without error, THEN analog would be superior to digital
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: its not up for debate, it's a fact
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Thargar: I think I got a pair of those for my dog after I got him fixed.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: and look at this link to learn why  http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_sjmxrHygBno/Rx0HCwlnTPI/AAAAAAAAAfA/IJGpQhzlueQ/s400/analog%2Bdigital.gif&imgrefurl=http://shoelessandbibleblack.blogspot.com/2007/10/analog-vs-digital-circuitry-which-is.html&usg=__ww_nshaTTy4J6WwhLcAlH1kWuJc=&h=395&w=358&sz=6&hl=en&start=2&sig2=OehDTFvM8F1vZuQjiLUDTw&zoom=1&tbnid=Y_epNe48Tytq1M:&tbnh=124&tbnw=112&ei=zRmZTZu4HK-10QG9uJH1Cw&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcompare%2Banalog%2Bto%2Bdigital%2Bsound%2Bwave%2Bpic%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26biw%3D1280%26bih%3D632%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morinon Tech: Damacius: the only analog that is superior to original is being there as it is happening.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: nice link
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majic Tech: omg tinyurl
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morinon Tech: Also, no.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wow, a blogspot post to refute
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: there are different soundicles for every note in the chromatic scale.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jek Tech: the only thing analog is better is for guitar amps
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: no, like old film type photography is always going to be better than digital
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Morinon nods at Jek.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarquil Tech: in an ideal world we'd remember everything the first time and never need a second take
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morinon Tech: Analog is only better right as something is happening, and not to record, but to amplify.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: amps would be in analog anyways
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Abelinc: I take issue with that. In a perfect world, with perfect mechanism and perfect playback, analog would perhaps be more compact, but not better
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: analog is pure form
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: read that as "second cake" and thought "who doesn't want second cake?"
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Yes Fiendish I think analog is best for musical repo
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jek Tech: there are digital amps....
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: hmm this conversation is still going on :P
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Saatai: but you're wrong
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: i wouldnt want a digital amp
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morinon Tech: Damacius, don't let philosophy get in the way of empirical evidence.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: damacius, analog reproduced is not the pure form
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jek Tech: they make digital amps that sound exactly like analog amps :P
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: no it's a computer sciences degree from purdue, not philosophy
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: whether you think that it sounds better is a different statement than it being more accurate
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: well I said is my opinion yes
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Jek: I kind of doubt that
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I personally like Vinyl over CDs for music. To me, it is better quality.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: Any amp is digital anyway, since you can't pass a fraction of an electron.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: take a computer science course and ask your professor
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morinon Tech: Damacius, what you are arguing is from a philosophical point of view, which, while I agree in principle, I disagree when the facts are against it.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: tube amps are special not because they produce sound accurately but because they produce sound wildly inaccurately
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jek Tech: I promise you fiendish, there are digital amps that reproduce the sound of authentic analog amps ;)
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Raistlin is agreeing with that Fiendish person again...
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raistlin Tech: i love my tube amp
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Jek: maybe at a dollar level that I don't have access to
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raistlin Tech: ive tried digital amps but they seem too dry for me
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: it's a fact, not an opinion... im just trying to enlighten, you dont have to take it
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jek Tech: digital amps lack 'response' but they do sound the same
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: oh they dont
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morinon Tech: No, Damacius, calling your opinion a fact does not make it so.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: the magical appeal of tube amps is not that they make more correct sound, but that they make horrible bad sound in very interesting ways
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Let me ask this question, when was the last time you went to your favorite band and listened to there show.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: you dont notice the minor difference in sound
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: currently, in recording video and and audio at a consumer level, analog is far superior than digital (especially in music, since analog loses far less detail than digital)
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jek Tech: o yes, the best I've found is the axe fx, which is a 1500 dollar preamp
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: if it's high enough sampling, you wont notice a dif really
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: Yeah, that's why every studio masters in analog for the last 10 years.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: but it's not the same
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Wow, this has become debate channel.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: so has gossip!
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's all following Cide! Get him!
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jek Tech: fiendish: I love tube amps, wouldn't ever buy a digital, but there are digital amps that sound the same (although don't respond the same) as tube amps
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raistlin Tech: but jek there is no way to duplicate the warm sound that a nice set of elj tubes  in combo with a axe with some good passive pickups
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Turie love any channel can become a debate.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Could we move this to debate about the comparison of Digital and Analog?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: currently, CD music sounds like harsh noise compared to vinyl/cassette analog AAA music
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's the issue, raistlin..."warm sound" is a distortion
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: There are a huge number of current albums that sound way better on vinyl than on CD, but that's not because the vinyl has better reproduction, it's because the vinyl is so bad they can't get away with compressing the life out of it in mastering.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raistlin Tech: like a dimarzio x2n bridge paf joe neck comba
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a pleasing distortion, but a distortion nonetheless
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hezek Tech: I turned off gossip because of this, now I have to turn off tech too.  But before I go, how do you all think Obama is doing?  :P
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jek Tech: seriously, until you've heard an axe fx through a nice power amp you can't argue this :P
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: thats why when u rip a cd, if you make the sampling rate, or hertz low, it sounds real blahh
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Hezek: arab terrorist nigerian?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: or was it kenyan?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majic Tech: kenyan
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raistlin Tech: guess im just a bit of a purist in what i play through
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: right
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: If you rip a CD at anything other than 44.1/16, you deserve whatever idiocy you wind up with.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: raistlin, you're the opposite of a purist :P
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: digital has gaps that let soundicles fall through. because an analog wave is continuous the soundicles are trapped.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raistlin Tech: haha hows that abe
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because you're preferring more distortion :P
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: It's greener that way though.  You can recycle the soundicles that wind up in the equipment; once they get out the speaker they're lost forever.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: exactly tharger
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: look at this picture  http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_sjmxrHygBno/Rx0HCwlnTPI/AAAAAAAAAfA/IJGpQhzlueQ/s1600-h/analog+digital.gif
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: that is EXACTLY why analog is much more superior than digital
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: too bad the picture is a lie :P
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: Abelinc!
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: I like how you demonstrate it using a digital image, too.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I hate to turn tech off, but this is getting ridiculous.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not referring to sound
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: yea, right
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: lol
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: even that line on the top image is not a true curved line...
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: BECAUSE, it's digital
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: at least know what picture you're posting before using it to make a point about a totally different piece of technology
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morinon Tech: Because one piece of digital tech cannot reproduce a perfect circle does not mean another cannot.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: its exactly what were talkin about
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope damacius
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: that's the point
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: it cnanot
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I dropped out this debate and will just listen.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morinon Tech: Hell, a perfect circle is easy to reproduce.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that picture is not analog vs digital sound
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: properly recorded analog music on analog tape transferred nondigitally to analog vinyl transferred nondigitally to analog tape/cassette provides far more fine detail and a superior sound compared to digitised reproductions (at a consumer level)
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: what picture?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: monster cables are made with a special flavor that soundicles can't resist.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: yes it is
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: Analog vinyl is a _terrible_ reproduction device.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Xyliz: I disagree
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no it isn't
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: 1/4" tape is _much_ better.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unless somehow sound is measured in volts
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: analog tape to analyg to tape will give you a shit result
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: how is that not a picture of a analog sound wave vs a digital?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: so all this came from me asking what a .ogg file is? ;P
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: thats exactly what it is
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: s/analyg/vinyl
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morinon Tech: Yeah, Cide, sorry.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Saatai: It is a simile.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope damacius, it isn't
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cide snickers softly.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Sorry Cide, you started all this.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you've failed the basic comprehension of understanding your own picture
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: I think i did by calling .ogg 'lossless', actually.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or would you care to 'shop the picture and repost?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morinon Tech: No, Cide, you just gave certain zealots reason to spread their mistaken views.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: no need to shop... anyone with any intelligence understands, im sure
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Fiendish, even if (as you say) "Analog vinyl is a _terrible_ reproduction device", nevertheless, analog_vinyl is *vastly superior* to a CD version on that original music 
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: there is no help ogg?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I'm a zealot?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: im a zealot
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: yup, analog has ALL the sound
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morinon Tech: Xyliz, my CD can keep its data a lot longer than your vinyl.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: damacius, there is no sound represented in that picture
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: cd only has digits of sound every 100th of a second
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: anyone with intelligence would recognize that :P
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: do you know what a sound wave is?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, and that isn't one
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: I dont think you do
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morinon Tech: Damacius, I am very familiar with waves, being a physicist.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: well how can you debate whem someone says no 2+2 isnt 4?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: and that leaves you out then.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it has the same waveform as one, but that picture is not of one
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: Bazinga!
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morinon Tech: I am also very familiar with limits of reproduction.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: it actually is
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: 2+2=fish
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it isn't, it just looks like one
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if any human is unable to discern that analog music is superior to digital music, then they are defective in hearing and or music appreciation and or logic
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morinon Tech: I do not doubt that there are some very high-fidelity analog reproductions of sound.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: tech the picture's caption is "Look at an analog soundwave compared to a digital soundwave."
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: and just by looking at it, you should know
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: no I like the sound of idiots
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: I dunno why you guys are bothering to argue at this point.  It's on blogspot, it MUST be true.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morinon Tech: Damacius, are you familiar with infinite limits?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: if its on the internet, it must be true!
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not the picture you posted, no...and by looking at it, you should know that there are no VOLTS in sound waves
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: The intarwebz has the inability to lie!
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: no I learned it in CS101... it's like elementary of computer science
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morinon Tech: That's just saying the difference between an AC and a DAC attempting to reproduce AC.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: There is if Alessandro Volta is playing piano.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: they teach it in day one
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: purdue has gone WAAAAY downhill then
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since you're pretty clueless about it
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: what do you know of Purdue?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the difference between the analog soundwaves and the digital soundwaves of the originl music is actually "noise"
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: you guys make me feel dumb, thanks for ruining my mud experience
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raistlin Tech: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Digital.signal.svg
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morinon Tech: Xyliz: and how much noise is produce by an analog recording?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morinon Tech: produced, that is.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Wikipedia is never a valid 'source' for a statement.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: .01 percent
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nobody here is debating that the act of converting a given sound into digital is a lossy process
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: That doesn't count.  It's GOOD noise, 'cuz it's "warm".  Way better.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morinon Tech: I guarantee you there is more noise produced in taking one analog to another analog than one digital to another digital.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Damacius, which side are you debating here: pro-analog or pro-noisy-digital
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what is being debated is, (1) once that conversion is done, no more loss ever needs to transpire, regardless of generations, and (2) FAR more loss (and distortion gains) take place by not translating to digital
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morinon Tech: Damacius is arguing from a limit of perfect reproduceability.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morinon Tech: Which we do not have.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: I'll debate on the side of whichever side is arguing against Xyliz, considering they usually aren't correct, and throw in useless information that has no relation to the subject (Read: talking to read themselves speak)
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Majic rolls on the floor laughing at Cheezburger's antics!
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: lol oot
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cheez, then you'd be arguing against xyliz, saatai and damacius :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: Perfect reproduceability would be awesome though.  I want Elizabeth Taylor back   :(
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: well I am saying is Analog is far more better then digital.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majic Tech: good lord why :P
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Hmm..
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: I figure sooner or later it'll be my turn to marry her.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Apparently i had a substitute going on i didn't notice
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: Mmmmm, analog......
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Egrene Tech: you mean there's no 'read help digital vs analog'?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the intelligent human mind with decent ears is able to process out noise and reproduce (most of) the original music from repeated listenings of AAA analog music
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: far more better, maybe...more accurate when reproduced, NOPE
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: yes xyliz
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majic Tech: superb argumentation technique, just claim that anyone who disagrees must be unintelligent
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: The intelligent human mind is also able to reproduce the original music from reading the score.  Which takes even less storage space.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: majic: http://static.technorati.com/11/03/24/29985/Elizabeth-Taylor-402355.jpg
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: you wont notice the diffrence really
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I think I started a war on analog and digital.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: erikson: in fact the intelligent human mind takes up more space than an mp3
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: its minor minor, but dof
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: my mind is an mp3
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, so now we went from "there is no difference" to "you won't notice the difference really"...
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: two very different statements
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the intelligent human mind with decent ears is unable to reproduce much of the original music from repeated listenings of digital music
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: Sure, but there's only, what, maybe a half dozen in the world?  So it averages out...
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: you wont notice the diference, but it's different
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: good songs, you mean?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and continues to be "more different" with every reproduction
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: we have a winner!
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: well you can reproduce 24kz to 24kz without loss
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: There's only one good song.  It just has a lot of verses.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure you can
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: because the data was lost in the first place
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: when it went from the mic into a computer
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: what if no computer was involved
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: i have a cassette recorder
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: then it's analog
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Then it's not analog to digital :P
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: and is "true" sound wave
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: oh i thought Abe already won that debate,
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: he did.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: Sure it is.  I have a team of 2^16 elves, each of which is progressively more deaf than the prior one.  When each hears a sound, he carves a little tiny hole in a CD...
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: They won't stop arguing it
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's just not an ACCURATE reproduced sound wave
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majic Tech: damnit, that sounds like pratchett's iconography :D
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: right, it's not a FULL reproduction
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: I vote Abe works for Homeland Security or DOJ or some shit
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: he knows too much not to be on our side
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: That's your side?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: I think he's a soviet spy
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ooh, good question, erik!
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: that was my side before Obama :)
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: now lets debate that one
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: My side sure as hell doesn't involve the federal gov't :P
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if I were a soviet spy, I'd be a lot more snuggly with saatai baby :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majic Tech: bah, it's an act to make us believe you're not
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: My, erm, *coughcollectioncough*, isn't on the FBI's "Cool stuff, guy" list.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Nobody said you were a 'good' spy, or even loyal ;)
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: shesh "help spy"
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: soooo between .png and .tif?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tyebald chuckles politely.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tiff if you care about metadata, png to throw up on a website or something
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: erm i mean between SLR and dSLR
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: PPM!
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: emacs!
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bloated OS if ever I saw one :P
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: OK, now that's just going too far.  We can't use that kind of language on public channels.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morinon Tech: Mmm, emacs.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: vim!
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pico ftw
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Erikson gacks, and looks your way, dismayed. 
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: those UW guys are geniuses
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: vim is great if you want a good program for making your computer beep
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morinon Tech: Abelinc, being a UW guy, I agre.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: haha
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I'm just going to say that I do all coding for the aardwolf mushclient package in gedit.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Ew...a gui editor?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: i do mine in payments :) I win!
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: a gui editor seems appropriate for a gui client
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: I make a payment, the script appears
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Morinon nods at Fiendish.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nowadays I do most text editing in Editpad Pro, but that's just cuz I'm not usually sitting at a computer that can run BBEdit :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I wish people would make payments to me
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: do some tt++ and I will
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: linus Fiendish?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I tried asking crixus for 10 tps or $50 to make some silly change for her, but she tried to bargain me down to 2 tp. I wouldn't have any of it.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnistar Tech: I know payments would be great but thank you for what you do
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: heh
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nadir Tech: I have managed to get everyting but the status area working in mudlet so far. Am I missing a config option to get it working?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nadir Tech: let me restate that. I have managed to get everyting but the status area working in mudlet with the provided MAG scripts so far. Am I missing a config option to get it working?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: while I appreciate client competition, I really don't understand why anyone without a particular interest in a CLI uses anything other than mushclient
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: what's the I for in CLI?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: interface
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: as opposed to GUI
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majic Tech: well, I use zmud because I'm too lazy to run setup and too used to the settings I have now
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: but why mudlet?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hehe, there's no setup to run for mushclient }:>
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I understand people who use zmud because they have an investment in it already
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: that's fine
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nadir Tech: because I want to play the game not the client?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I don't understand using mudlet or atlantis or anything like that
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mushclient doesn't change that...
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mushclient just already works for the stuff that you're struggling to get working in mudlet ;-)
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Because I like my client, and i don't like mush? Seems like a good reason for me.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: mushclient is full of enablers who want to farm leeches. :P
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cheez, read again what fiendish wrote...you don't qualify
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fiendish laughs out loud at Dokkar.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: oh.. i misread
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: So basically anyone not on tt++ and tf should use mush? :P
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unless they have a years-long vested interest, I agree
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: TBH, i'd have to agree too
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it "just works" out of the box, it's actively supported, and you'll be able to get tons of help with it readily
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nadir Tech: the last time I looked at mush client. some time ago I admit. it was very user unfriendly.  has that changed?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Although, some other clients interface with the OS (not even talking on CLI here) better than mush
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Nadir: http://www.aardwolf.com/play/screenshots.htm
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: mushclient is superbly suited for quickstart-edness, from the perspective of the knows-nothing newb.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: for actual working-environment, it still lags behind compared to CMud even though on average both systems have the same capabilities.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: cmud doesn't have the same capabilities as far as i can tell
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: as mush?  Very much so.  Obvious differences relative to each side's implementation, but otherwise they could be written by the same person.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: nope
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cmud's still got the advantage in maturity of mapper
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: until there's path costs in mush, anyway
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: a fleeting difference, and honestly not all that big of one.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: cmud technically only has the advantage that I'm not willing to add certain things to the mapper for political reasons :\
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: such as?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but free and prepackaged with scripts are pretty nice plusses
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: and in fact I would say that on balance the base clients follow the opposite pattern of what you suggest. cmud is easier to get started with than raw mushclient, but lags in potential
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: which is where the aardwolf client package comes in
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: it skips the step of "getting started"
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: the only things in the mapper are name, description, number, a couple notes fields, and stuff geared more towards drawing-customizations
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: people frequently ask me to add things to the mushclient mapper that I am hesitant to add because it pushes the line further into botting territory
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: there's a whole suite of interface functions to work with all that stuff, and just from watching conversations on tech and the forums it's pretty obvious that the mush mapper can match all of that.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: but that says absolutely nothing of the client itself
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: this is a plugin, extensible and changable in a way that cmud never will be
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: (and fixable)
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: does gmcp in cmud even work properly yet? last I heard the answer was no
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, the last thing that was thought to be a cmud issue was really an aard issue
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in that the aard code was truncating the output of large groups
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: gmcp's always worked fine for me...
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: GMCP works wonderfully in CMud.  The problems that exist have to do with matching that functionality to everything else so that features don't interfere with each other.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: case in point: slow walking.  Something about how CMud detects GMCP interferes with slow mode such that speedwalks end early instead of getting hung up waiting for something that's never coming.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: slow mode is a cmud mode thing?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what's it used for?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: the intended use of slow mode is for automated short-range movement that things like bots and room scripts might do.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: hurray for bots
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: for long, crossworld walks, fast mode (send all directions first, who cares if you actually get there) and safe mode (send all directions first, check to make sure each move is successful) are the recommended modes.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: basically, slow mode is for one-step-at-a-time, verified movement
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nadir Tech: hmm this mushclient actually looks like it could do the trick. Thanks for the suggestion. though changing anything in the client itself still seems hard to work with as before.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: changing anything in the client, such as?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fiendish wants his mud client to show everything in hot pink!
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nadir Tech: learning how to  tweek it so that the main window isn't so busy for starters. I love the way it's all set up so far. But I actually like to read the info in the rooms and such.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: the reason that this slow mode/GMCP thing is such an issue is because slow mode happens to also be the mode that one can control speedwalking--such as pausing it to deal with aggros or to change the path in the middle of a walk.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: reading info on the rooms would be your "brief" setting on the MUD
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you mean botting
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: now now, fiendish, yours has a "resume" function as well :P
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nadir Tech: no sir. I don't bot.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nadir Tech: with all the info comoing into the main window, nothing the text move too fast.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: dokkar, with gmcp that really isn't a problem in other modes
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's not talking to you, nadir
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Nadir: i didn't mean you
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: just trigger on the run interrupted line when you get aggroed to look, and gmcp updates your position
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: nadir: you can limit what text goes to the main window. you can, for example, remove all channel stuff and have it only go to the channel capture window
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you right-click on the channel capture, you'll see an option to not echo it to main
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: GMCP doesn't do anything with the directions, though, so you helplessly watch as the rest of the path after that interruption happens (it's already been sent to the game, so the only way to stop it is to disco)
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: well, i only send one run to the mud...
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gmcp doesn't need to do anything with the directions...them being sent to the game doesn't need to matter
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nadir Tech: that is fabulous! Someone has put alot of effort into this.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you told it that you wanted to go to room xyz...when you do a look, you see that you're in room abc
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: i have a function that converts the cmud paths to a mud run command
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: the directions themselves don't matter either.  My speedwalking logic lets cmud figure out how to get to the destination, so all I have to do is pick where I want to go.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: nod, mine too
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: except instead of using #walk, i use unformat(%walk)
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: except instead of using #walk, i use @runformat(%walk)
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: so instead of cmud sending n, n, n, n all as separate commands, i send run 4n
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: then if i get aggroed on the way, no extra commands are being send while you're in combat
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: if im missing my drag bar in the lower right hand corner of my mush client's screen is there anyway to get it back? i think i was in a higher reso screen and stretched it too far
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: I got mine back by changing my resolution and finding it and dragging it back O.o  and then chagning the resolution again
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: if im missing my drag bar in the lower right hand corner of my mush client's screen is there anyway to get it back? i think i was in a higher reso screen and stretched it too far
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: ah ok
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: I did that because no one was awake to help me :| Silly americans
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: yeah i am already in my max reso
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: Then I suppose you'll have to wait for someone who knows what they are talking about :|
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: guess i could move this over to my desktop and resize it, so much work
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: {stats}140/87,129/87,150/87,123/82,123/87,150/87,100,46,63,406,513,You are Standing.,9999,2599/2599,888/1908,1146/1818,3697492,888,16,2500,5835,58,5
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: anyone know what tag that is?
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Tech: just finished god of war in 1 day
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: what is that?
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Tech: an xbox game
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: ok, try the gametalk channel
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reina Tech: how to block someone in facebook
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Littbarski Tech: Anyone able to answer a hopefully easy Aardwolf Client issue?
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: maybe
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: easier if you ask your question
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Littbarski Tech: in the older version, when using the help command, it would pop up a new window...now it goes to my main play window...is there an easy way to change this?
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: sorry, cant help you there....i never used the older version....i imagine you could catch the help text into another window from a trigger...
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I have a miniwin_help plugin that will work like that
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: but you may be just able to download a script for it.
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: there you go, get one from Bast.
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: O.o You rock fiendish
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Littbarski Tech: thanks Bast, I found, downloaded and am using your miniwin_help successfully.
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: Okay O.o So. I need some technical help here. With: rewearing the object in my off-hand that was there before using the alias for a portal.
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: I had one that was for the dualled weapons, but I want to change that to everything
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: I just reinstalled mush client and tried adding a custom exit in the mapper. unfortunately it doesnt work because of the colons that separate the commands in the speedwalk. How can I fix this?
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antistes Tech: I've had the same problem Jerome. The only workaround I could figure out was creating an alias to do the same thing, and mapping the custom exit to that
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: use ;;;;
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: (no, i'm not joking)
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: Just two is fine ;
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: it is in the aardwolf GMCP mapper, I cannot find the part where the colon is inserted.
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: no armenia, you need four to add a semi-colon to a mapper custom exit
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: ah. so in the mapper custom exit when I create it, i type ;;;bucket for instance (tinker guild, 4s of recall)?
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: instead of bucket, that is?
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: well, if the command is just bucket you don't need semi-colons at all...that's just for stacking commands
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: but the problem is that when i want to run to a part behind the custom exit, the mud responds with that there are incorrect directions; the colon is not replaced with a new command line
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: You broke it!
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: works fine for me
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: did "mapper cexit bucket" went up from there after cexit was added, then ran someplace and did "mapper goto 32620" and went there
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: mapper find tinker (I am 5s of recall, then click on one: mud response: run n;bucket 
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: and then: Invalid directions in command.
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: so for me, the colon is not interpreted
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: hmm, looks like it's not expanding the semi-colons...
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: yup
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: do you have command stacking off? try just n;s on your command line
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: doesnt work either, but how can I turn that on?
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Game->Configure->Commands
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: make sure command stack using ; shows there
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: and is checked
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: ah! indeed, there was no mark before command stack using! didnt notice, thanks a lot!
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: Bast is so smart :|
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: thanks all! it works now!
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: command stacking is on by default
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: in my version
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I think like...pre-2001, it wasn't.  But, yeah.
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: also, r414 and later are able to use other command stack chars than the semicolon
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: (and also include bigmap finally)
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: Having a problem installing to mush gmcp mapper (http://pastebin.com/ybS06GSJ) any ideas?
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you're didn't update aardmapper.lua
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: I downloaded the mush from the aardwolf wiki pages, that worked fine.
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: updating piecemeal is bound to give problems. plugins frequently rely on other files that you forget about. it's best to follow the instructions for updating from the Aardwolf.com download page
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: that worked, thanks fiendish.And your right about piecemeal bit but hey some ppl just want to be idiots =)
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: especially since I sometimes make changes that are not specifically in a plugin
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: also, just a head's up...if you're taking the gmcp mapper from a new snapshot I hope you're also taking the graphical bigmap plugin too
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: Hmm, is there a plugin for mushclient that searches all items in a container and spits out their stats/enchants into a file?
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: uhh...
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: not that I know of
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: ah, ok!
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: just checking before I do it manually
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Milkshake Tech: ugh what is the name of that mud client where *everything* is written in a scripted language, isn't mush...
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all of 'em :P
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Milkshake Tech: err I think its all in Lua (sorry, I know zmud qualifies, smartass) :p
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You giggle.
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: you thinking of Cmud?
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mudlet may primarily use lua
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Milkshake Tech: mudlet, thats it, thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cmud allows lua, it isn't primarily lua
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: how do i see the vnum for items i am carrying if i don't know their keywords?
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: invdata
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: see help invdata
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: thanks...could not remember the command
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which is technically the serial number, not the vnum
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vnum is identical for 10 instances of a potion, but serial is individual to each
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Is there anything special I need to copy across when upgrading mushclient to get basts spellups plugin to work? I got an error, and now all my spellup data is gone
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chekhu Tech: Do any of you folks use vipmud, and if so, can you tell me how I can use mccp?
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if a client doesn't support mccp natively, then you can run a mccp proxy...but really, there are plenty of available, free MUD clients which have active users prepackaging scripts for Aard
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: man...i can't remember how to get MUSHclient to load with my world settings from a shortcut again... meh
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: didja try setting the start location in the shortcut?
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: anyone know if its worth it to ttry to repair a ac adapter myself?
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: do you like house fires?
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Depends, can you do it successfully? :P
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: dunno never tried :P
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jek Tech: considering the price of most of those things....no
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: i was just trying to save $50 :P
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: last one i bought off of ebay fried
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: within a week...
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Ebay, there's you problem
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jek Tech: 50 dollar ac adapter?
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: thats the price for the one i needed is
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jek Tech: what is it for?
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: laptop
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: how do i set tt++ to read a session file by default on ubuntu
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: got everything working, but id like it to #read my file by default
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reina Tech: Cheezse i ned your help
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reina Tech: what the different between Iphone and SmartPhone?
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lashan Tech: An iPhone is a particular brand/model of smartphone
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lashan Tech: so
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: are the instinct commands live now?
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: 'instinct' 'Sorry Jhav, I don't understand you.'
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: I'm going to say no.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: any idea when?
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Riiiiiiiiiiiight....NOW!
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jhav gasps in astonishment.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: yaaa, fiendish is always right to
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: wish i had an instinct
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: just so you all know its a horrible idea to try to fix a charger for a laptop if you dont know what you are doing...
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: duh
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: to answer my question from a few hours ago
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylac Tech: duh
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RagingFury Tech: if you think it's finished, you might be able to sell the silver wire for scrap! :D
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: pennies
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RagingFury Tech: notz
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: and probably illegal in many places as well
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RagingFury Tech: selling silver?
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: selling wire is perfectly legal here
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RagingFury Tech: buncha techies i guess :P
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: 4090mbs translates into about 4gb?
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: about
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: thought so thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: 4096 Mb = 4G :)
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeilhuitl Tech: guys of tech! im on winxp and i have a 6btn mouse. there's a totally useless button that adjusts the sensitivity of the mouse. i want to remap it to something else.  xmouse only does 5buttons! i need something else. suggestions?  inb4 google
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: anyone know what I should do if I want to say map ctrl-up to north using muschclient?
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you need to read this: http://mushclient.com/scripts/doc.php?function=Accelerator
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: so where exactly do I enter that in:P
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: im a total programming newb
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: stick it at the bottom of a plugin
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raistlin Tech: got a wierd problem that ive had both on cmud and mush wonder if anyone else has too it seems that after some runs my numlock gets turned off anyone else have this happen
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alhena Tech: can anyone explain a very basic gmcp trig please ? Stuck on pattern / Using CMud
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for a gmcp trigger, it looks like you say new trigger, use trigger type gmcp, and put the pattern as the first 2 "parts" of the GMCP...such as room.info, comm.quest, etc
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then in the action part, you can access any of the variables that are within that section of gmcp, such as %comm.quest.targ and %comm.quest.room
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can see the hierarchy of gmcp variables on the gmcp page of the wiki
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oops, I was wrong on the variable syntax...it would be %gmcp.comm.quest.targ and %gmcp.comm.quest.room
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dirrty Tech: is there a inv mini window pluggin?
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dirrty Tech: name? or where i can find it?
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: two separate ones are http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=8936 and http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=9522
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: places to look for mushclient plugins: (1) start with the latest aardmush package, (2) check out bast's plugins folder, (3) help www, look at the comli site, and (4) http://www.mushclient.com/search.htm
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: nice, finally set up my file server/seedbox
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: headless dell gx280, passive cooling. running samba, apache, sshd and deluged+deluge-web for torrents
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: dyndns + forwarded ports and i can access it from anywhere :>
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swire Tech: I've just got one of these -- http://www.aleutia.com/products/t1
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swire Tech: next up -- http://trimslice.com -- linux on an arm box, dual head capable, running at 3W power consumption
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: nice
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: don't have the buck to buy a micro-pc atm
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: so the dell will have to do for now
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swire Tech: well, the t1 was 250 quid -- cheap and small
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HyPo Tech: Pquaffer plugin crashes and exits mush when running the 'pots' command in r421. Hmm, back to the think tank.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: so no error message?
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Works fine for me
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HyPo Tech: Sorry, I'm at work and didn't catch the replys. No error message, but I'll dive into it further when I get free from work.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Milkshake Tech: is there no decent freeware irc client for windows?
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: why not use shareware - mIRC
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apocolyte Tech: can i remove chats from my nain window
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apocolyte Tech: ?
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: try chats echo off
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: apocolyte, right-click the chats capture
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apocolyte Tech: im going to be here often,just got the client
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apocolyte Tech: where do you get the script for calculating time till hour double?
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: type gamestat 5. there are a few thousand mobs killed per hour
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: you wait for some poor sap to paste it on a channel and you send him tells
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parzifal Tech: don't really need a script, just take a "average amount killed per hour" and apply. pretty easy math to do, or an easy script to write oneself!
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apocolyte Tech: anyway to make my computer make a sound when a gq/quest isavailable?
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: Using what client?
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Only through your client of choice...
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apocolyte Tech: Mushclient
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Tech channel could probably give a step-by-step in 1/2 a sec lol
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: mischan
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: How do you turn on mccp compression on zmud?
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demonspawn Tech: In 7.21 it should turn itself on automatically
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: Hrm, mine isn't on.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demonspawn Tech: Sometimes it can glitch though, so you might try closing and reopening zmud
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: unless Aardwolf is improperly negotiating telnet options (or if something interferes during the process, such as losing connection), you just log in.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: Reconnected, its still not on.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demonspawn Tech: if not there is something in options I think, but I can't remember for certain.  It's been awhile
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: Yeah, I remember there was a compression option. I can't find it atm.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: Found it, its under Emulation in General tab.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: is it possible to turn off battle prompt
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: just type "bprompt"
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: cool thank you
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: if I have a trigger in mush to recast a disrupt which fails, and it works the first time, but disrupt fails again the trigger isn't kicking in, how come
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: that was ambiguous, requires rereading several times to remove the ambiguities - bleh
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: life is ambiguous
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: illiteracy is ambiguous and as a result incoherent
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: I don't think this is helping me?
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: i would guess that your trigger is broken, or you have some form of state attached to it
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: well I just made it, so I am not sure what is broken about it... it just has one wildcard and recasts disrupt
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: what is the pattern?
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: You need to be more disruptive. The * is still there!
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: cast 'disrupt' '%1'
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: that is all I did
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: that looks pretty bad
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: if by bad you mean simple.... what is bad about it?
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarquil Tech: that works on a successful failed cast, but not if the spell itself fails.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if the spell fails, is there a different message
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarquil Tech: yes
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: what I put is the spell failing, not losing concentration
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: it seems to work if it's on a blank line... if it gets sent after my hp/mana/mv prompt it doesn't work
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: put a %c at the end of both your prompt and bprompt
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: add a new line to your prompt
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: so I guess I just need to ignore the new line
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Ralyn: do you use any of my plugins?
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: use %c
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: I use the Aard mush version
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: use %c at the end of the prompt, with compact on (in config)
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: to toggle compact, type Compact
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: with  Compact (= Yes), a lot more fits on the screen at once, and the prompt/bprompt ending with %c avoids a lot of trigger difficulties (at least in zmud)
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: putting %c at the end of my trigger doesn't seem to do anything
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: the %c goes on the end of your PROMPT command
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: I got it, I just set up another trigger with a wildcard before
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: %c permits all zmud triggers to start with ~^  and that permits faster trigger processing
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: it'd just be ^.  Using ~^ would tell ZMud to look for the carat character instead of looking at the beginning of the line.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: %c is a mud-side addition to the prompt not to the trigger
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apocolyte Tech: mapper takes you to the room you clicked,how do the up exits work with this?
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: not sure whether Aardmush plugins permits changes to the standard prompt bprompt
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: which mapper, Apo?
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Xyliz, you need to learn to read before you respond, because your inane chatter, incoherent at time, is really obnoxious. You're not reading what people are saying, but you're correcting them on things that 1) you're wrong about and 2) they're right about.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: if only it were on analogue tape
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: no, actually, Xyliz was only wrong about the tilde.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apocolyte Tech: the one in mushclient
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: he's also talking about zmud for some reason :P
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Turie hands Cheezburger some Philly Steak to make him into a PhillySteak Cheezburger.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: the person asking the question is using mushclient
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Exactly
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Darn it. Mis.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if an Aardmush plugins wants to see a specific prompt bprompt output coming from the mud, then ... so ool
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Who the hell said that? You're just being rediculous
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: not really, you just have a lot of hard-to-read notepad to look through to change it.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: it's not like the plugin code is encrypted or anything.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: tildes are required so that zmud does not attempt to process and remove some special characters in chat lines
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: You could obfuscate it, if you really wanted to.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: ^  ~^
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: again xyliz, you're the only person talking about zmud...
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: but you're wrong about the ^
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: there should be no tilde
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: hence the hard-to-read part
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: %  was preceded by a tilde
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: ~^  was also preceded by a tilde
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: if you put the tilde in your trigger pattern, the trigger will actually look for a ^ in the mud output
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Wtf are you talking about, just be quiet already.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: so some tildes are removed and others slip through when speaking on tech
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: ~ is the zmud escape character so ~^ means the trigger starts with a LITERAL carat, now shush
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: do not precede a ^ with a tilde in a zmud trigger 
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Myrkul buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheezburger goes, "Omfg".
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: ^omg^, a flying spaghetti monster 
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Is there anything addition i need to install alongside LAMP (besides perl obviously) to use Perl for CGI purposes? I tried including <!--#include cgi="path/to/cgi.cgi"-->, but it's not showing up on the page
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Anyone know how to get just the first row of a Select statement's result in Mushclient/SQL?  I've only used db:nrows in a for loop, doesn't seem to work outside of one.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Using the SQLLite Wrapper that is.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: so use the first result
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Well I enter a for loop and just break out after the first result, just seems like there should be an easier wya.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: well I could....
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: why worry about it
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you now know a way to do it
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you only waste your time looking for a second way
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: not sure about sqlite, but in Oracle, you can use rownum = 1
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: add a "limit 1" to the end of your select statement?
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Ooh good call on the limit 1, but I still don't how to access a result outside of a for loop.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: just use the for loop, if you have one item, then it won't loop
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: The answer to your question Fiendish, is you are right I could just do it the way I know how...but if I always do that, I never learn the BEST way to do something...and the readability of my own code is hurt by looking back and thinking why the heck did I do it this way.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: there is no best way in programming
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: there are ways that work and ways that don't work
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: there are occasionally trades made for performance, but only bother where it actually matters
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: There are often ways that work better, and ways that work ... less so.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jhav glances at bubble sort.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: But I like the code to look elegant :)
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reina Tech: anyone?
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: hi reina
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reina Tech: anyone familier in using vyatta?
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: what's that?
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reina Tech: Vyatta's open, software-based approach to networking has created a complete network OS that can connect and secure physical networks as well as virtual.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: never heard of it
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reina Tech: hmmm
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: hmm when I try to load up mushclient it says ./worlds/Aardwolf.mcl contains an invalid path. When I check it out, it seems the plugins point to something in c:\windows32\worlds\...
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: any idea which file I can edit to stop this?
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: what did you do?
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: um I wrote a plugin and then I closed the world.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: when I tried to reopen this happened..
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: why is it in windows32?
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: its not..its in program files
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: but somehow something is poitning to windows32
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: what did you do before now? did you do something before?
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: same question. If you don't have write access to program files, you won't run.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: what version of windows are you using?
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: I'm using windows 7
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: but I think I'm on an adminstrator account
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: I believe so
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: even admins will bomb unless they take ownership if program files.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: of*
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: hmm and how do I do that?
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Don't do that.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: well, for now, just go into the control panel and disable UAC, that's probably the easiest way. Taking ownership of a folder takes a bit of practice.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: Im pretty sure UAC is disabled..I've never got annoying popups and what not
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: here: Control Panel\User Accounts and Family Safety\User Accounts
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: click on change User Account Controls settings and disable UAC.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: can't disable in win7, just turn all the way down
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: same thing.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: ok brb
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: you don't have to have it disabled to avoid pop-ups, just not at max level.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: no luck
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: same issue
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: anyone know how I can completely remove mushclient? theres no uninstall bundled with this
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HyPo Tech: No install, either.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HyPo Tech: Just delete the files.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperCow Tech: does gmcp only display quest time as part of the group package or am i missing it somewhere else?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: it displays quest time in the quest package but it doesn't update it.
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperCow Tech: quest package? that isn't even listed in protocols gmcp
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: comm.quest
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: technically a sub-package :)
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperCow Tech: ah
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: the wiki page has the info on it.
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperCow Tech: hmmm i see that now. thank you
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperCow Tech: is there a way of "turning of" the regular channel message that get displayed so I can just capture what gets sent via GMCP? DO I jut need to do client side triggers to gag everything? Is there a downside to doin this?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: what client are you using?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperCow Tech: cmud
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you need turn on channel tags and then use client side triggers
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperCow Tech: thank you
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: so is there a way to make windows vista not be so horrible?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: by that i mean
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: no, there isn't
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: is there a way to make it quit running processes that dont need to be running
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: ditch it and install windows xp
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Armenia is agreeing with that Farkyss person again...
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: you can streamline it a bit with msconfig, that's about it
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: The only good think about vista is that cake game
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: peebles place or whatever its called?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: with the memory matching games and whatnots
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: Such a fun game. 
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: they weren't even a standard part of vista
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: only certain editions
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: fun times
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: nods, fun that 10 years on and xp is still the OS to use
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: i have heard that even microsoft complains about vista
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: it'll happen less, it drops off their support schedule before too much longer
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: vista without sp1 already went
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: neat
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: Xp ftw
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: i dont wanna pay for xp though
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: you wouldn't be able to, it's not been available to buy in 5 years
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: im sure i can find it somewhere
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: unless you can track down a retail box on ebay
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: that soudns like work
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: then clearly you don't hate vista sufficiently enough
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Armenia is agreeing with that Farkyss person again...
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Danj Tech: if you have vista, the first thing you should do is buy windows 7 and do a clean install
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Danj Tech: nuke it from orbit, it's the only way to be sure
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: actually throw it away and buy a mac.
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: if you can't afford xp, you sure as hell aren't going to afford w7
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Danj Tech: no, macs are poor value for money
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Danj Tech: and XP costs more than win7 these days, I think
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: besides which, if you hate vista, chances are you'll hate w7
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Danj Tech: deliberately, because MS doesn't want people buying it
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: uh
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: i can see a dozen windows xp's on ebay for under $20 right nwo
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Danj Tech: oh, ebay, well that's cheating
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: I just got a mapper error... Run-time error
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Danj Tech: anyway, I gotta go, got a Microsoft seminar at cambridge regional college today
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thinkon Tech: has windows 7 been getting good reviews? i dread the day my current pc with xp needs replacing ... i speak as one with experience of windows me!
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: not really, thinkon
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: for w7, think vista with less bugs but all the bloat
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: Reason: processing alias "" ...er\Desktop\MUSHclient\lua\aardmapper.lua:1305: attempt to index a nil value stack traceback: ...er\Desktop\MUSHclient\lua\aardmapper.lua:1305: in function 'find' [string "Plugin"]:1975: in function <[string "Plugin"]:1962>
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: O.o Who speaks that language?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: post me a note with the entire error message
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: when that happened were you trying to run a command?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: Yeah, i wanted to run to sendhia O.o
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: what command did you do?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: fiend i got that error too and i think i kind of figured it out -> when you set auto walk to true in map_area/map_find etc, find function in lua attempts to walk even though if the destination is unreachable
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I probably know how to fix it, but I need to know what armenia did
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: I'm kind of stuck now, because its kind of a clan thing :|
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raistlin Tech: What?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raistlin Tech: what do you mean armenia a clan thing?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: you can try this: i got that error when i set auto walk to true in map_area's mapper.find, head to nenukon and try mapper area campsite
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: wait
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you changed something in the script?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: just toggling auto walk
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: only that
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I'm going to take that toggle out :P
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I'm not responsible for you breaking things by changing the script
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: now what did you do, Armenia?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raistlin Tech: its not something that can be talked about outside the clan fiendish sry
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: ...
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the script likewly broke while doing something inside hte clan defense area
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: We didn't change the mapper script O.o
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: I just wanted to go to sendhia *sob*
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: well then YOU figure out the bug if you're not going to tell me what you did
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: should never have given the masses a mapper script :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: seriously. bunch of ingrates
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raistlin Tech: no reason to be a prick fiendish she is using a script created by a clan member that doesnt want any info about the script spread 
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: then why is it up to Fiendish to fix it?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raistlin Tech: it isnt and thats what i stated 
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: your clan member being a dick means you won't properly report a bug in the package that half the mud uses?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raistlin Tech: its a clan issuse so drop it
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Man, DoH was different when I was leader.
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: I'm pretty sure you can trust Fiendish to just fix the bug and not spread it, if it was sensitive.... he already gave us the mapper o.0
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: had people, and everything?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: had sonrokito too. I was sad to see him go.
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: on the plus side, you are written in C
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fiendish says, "Did you know that I'm written in C?"
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: and an earthbound misfit?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: anyone uses's Bast plugins? Any idea where to find your stats db to transfer it to the new client?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: the bug in aardmapper.lua will be fixed in the next update, no thanks to the members of doh
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: I don't use mush, but appreciate your hardwork, Fiendish
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Farkyss licks Bel, The Lord of Avernus.
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: We love you too, Fiendish.
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: This might be a stupid question...
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: I have a bad feeling about this...
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: well all of the sudden my cpu usage on my computer doesnt go below 80% and all im running is gmud
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: you're never 'just' running gmud
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: so should i be worried about malware if i havent been searching or downloading anything?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: try closing gmud
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: well thats all I opened behind the seens thers 47 other things running that it lets me see
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Could just be a virus scan.
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: i turned off my anti malware protection to see if that was causing it
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: but still stays high
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: what does task manager say
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: other than "I'm tired and want to go home"
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: idle systems 99% cpu usage and moves a lot
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: physical memory 32%
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: it's processing idle tasks, which are numerous
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: I wouldn't worry
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: well its causing me to not be able to do anything else but what its doing :P
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: vista?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: causing programs that i want to run to crash and stuff
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: yeah...
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: I think we've found the source of your trouble
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: yeah...
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: liek explorer thats kind of important and it keeps crashing and i figured that was the problem :P
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: pretty sure there isnt any malware on it cause i ran a sacn yesterday and havent done anything that i know of
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reina Tech: Fed up with slow browsing!
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: im fed up with windows in general :P
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Cide: Windows is a good OS for the average user. It is all relative to what kind of user you are.
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: you need an inflatable arm-flailing tube man!
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: i'd leave it alone to get on with what it's doing
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: i cant get on with what i was doing is the problem :P
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: well guess i could just play aard all day
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: seems to liek to run this but nothing else
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: an aard virus?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Cide: Use Chrome or Foxfire.
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: i use foxfire
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: yes, because changing web browser will solve it. *rolls eyes*
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: nothign to change shrug :P
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: however a hammer...
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: that will solve the problem im sure
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: did you change any audio video settings to a higher resolution
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: use a dolphin, more environmentally friendly
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: actually changed them lower
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: or a child
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: children scare me so i might try the dolphin
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Farkyss: No, do this.  http://www.geekologie.com/2008/08/father_nails_xbox_to_tree_to_s.php
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: well that has xbox in the title, so is a fail before it starts
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Farkyss: That was the point. XBox = Microsoft = Windows.
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: translation: "hurr, durr, i have/planning to get a ps3"
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: i had a ps3 once
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: xbox is one of the few things ms got right
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: xbox wasnt too bad
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: 360, not the one that has a small planet for a controller
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: they just break way to easy
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: not since jasper
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: i see
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: that sucked, yes
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: quickshot pro and cheetah mk2 were the definers, the rest of them can clear off
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: So, all you physics people:  Explain to me why my winshield was frozen over when it never got below freezing last night.
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: was there wind?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Madcatz shrugs in response to Shapechanger's question.
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dirrty Tech: so i installed a mini inv window plugin, it installed correctly but i dont see the window, how could i pull it up? mushclient
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: have you tried calling to it in the style of a chicken?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dirrty Tech: umm
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dirrty Tech: no?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: sacrificed virgins?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dirrty Tech: i did try that but i guess she was unpure
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: well that's the limit of my mush client - you're better off asking Abe, Fiendish, or Bast
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Have invmon and tags inv on?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: I'm using MUSHclient and I want to see my map on the main world window. How can I do this? It randomly happens sometimes when the map window freezes.
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: Remove the plugin?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: lemme try.
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yeah disable the plugin should stop the gag
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: what is the pluggin's name? Don't want to delete the wrong thing.
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: ascii map
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Armenia nods.
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zerstorer smiles happily.
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: Thanks, guys!
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: in the furture if you want both, you could find the line in that plugin that gag's the map from your main window and comment it out with a --
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: Ok!
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: then reinstall it
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: When I were a lad, we used to draw the maps with pencil on graph paper 
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WinkleWinkle is agreeing with that Farkyss person again...
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: once the next generation lose these skills, they'll be gone forever
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: already they don't know the sound of a modem
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thinkon Tech: when i were a lad we used to draw maps on clay tablets with reeds
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: Lol. Or dial-up
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: heh
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: that is because modern kids are essentially stupid
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: What is "Dial-up" ?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: I loved that heavenly sound of computer phlegm early in the morning!
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: me too... it felt like you were really connecting to something :)
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: "Mommy, why is the computer making a phone call?"
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: anyone seen punch cards? Those were the days. If you have, you know why it's called a batch job.
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: those things are sharp
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: (drops punch cards) "Oh, Dear God!"
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i am glad to not know that pain :)
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: I think of that as B.C.F
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: Before Computers (were) Fun 
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: Lol Burlington Coat Factory? xD
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: computers were always fun
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: they're actually considerably -less- fun than they were once
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i think it's different fun
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: Old text-based adventure games on terminals!
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Noone plays text based games anymore!
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: killing someone with a sword on my phone while on the toilet is pretty fun
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: Dang, I was eaten by a grue!
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: anyone?? lol
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: serves you right!
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiyazi Tech: MUDs taught me how to type when I was 12.  Now I play them on my smartphone.  Just sayin'
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: 12, not 6 like a smart kid
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: perhaps computers were common when you were 6, but some of use are a bit older....
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: for a lot of people, laptops, mobile phones, and the internet have always been there
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: when I was 6, the Internet wasn't invented yet...
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: you should be retiring soon then?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Not quite that old.
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: The Internet came about in 1983
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: Pshhh, when I was 6, I was playing halo ce.
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: err... origins of the internet were 1958
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Or 1969 if you count the arpanet
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: what happened in 1958 that you count as the Internet?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: 1969 is traditionally considered the launch
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: 1958 was when the concept was invented
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I would consider 1983 as the start of the Internet, but 1969 as the start of the internet concept
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: i.e. switched packet networks
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stutz Tech: when was Al Gore born? Didnt he invent the internet?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: ron jeremy did <3
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: I was 2 seconds from saying that!
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: In 1983 I was -6 years old.
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: the Al Gore thing.
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: Ron Jeremy didn't invent the internet, he just layed the pipeline
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: "pipeline"
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: in 1983 I was drunk for the first time. Won't get more specific than that.
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: While you're at it. Tell me how to do a math in mushclient O.o
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: OMG dad?!?!
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox winks suggestively.
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: Trololololo,lololo,lololo
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Armenia screams "trololololololololololololololololololo" at Zerstorer.
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: Best meme evar!
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: I would really really like to add a simple math formula in a trigger but I dont know how O.o
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: I wish to purchase tutoring services!
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: ok I am getting this error for a script I just installed:  %% Perl exception: Campaign.pm did not return a true value at (eval 327) line 2.
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: this is the 2nd line of the script i entered: if ($line =~ /^You still have to kill \* (.+) \(/) {
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: any ideas?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: got more than one mob left for your CP?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: i didnt have any but i will have more than 1
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: i check it on another character that I just took a campaign on so he had 15 targets
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: and it failed for that char?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: it did
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: i just took one on this char and have 12 targets to kill
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: any seasoned perl coders out there, im getting an error on a script im trying to use and i cant figure it out
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallendbor Tech: does aard only work over telnet?  can it work over ssh in zmud?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: telnet only
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallendbor Tech: meh
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: an ssh option would be nice, to be honest
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: pretty sure zmud doesn't have an ssh proxy anyways, so it wouldn't work that way either.
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: although in another sense, I don't really care
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: ssh comes with it's own proxy...
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: at any rate, aard isn't an ssh game so it wouldn't matter how you connected so long as aard thought you were using telnet.
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zylias Tech: i HAVEN'T upgraded MUSH Client recenty,but it has recently added a grey blank status bar i think it is, between Ready and my text entry box - how can i remove it please?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Sounds like you're missing the old hp/mana/move bars
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zylias Tech: it's the space for those but i need it gone
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zylias Tech: it wasn't there a few days ago and i haven't knowingly made any changes but it's just appeared, and it cuts into the space for my text entry box so i'd really like to remove it please
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: View->Status Bar
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: btw, why not upgrade?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zylias Tech: coz i know what i have works and then i don't have to set it up again :)  i might look into what the changes are later to evaluate the importance to me of any changes
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zylias Tech: i'm on the 2nd most recent version
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zylias Tech: tyvm fiendish, that worked :)
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: i haven't updated zmud in years
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zylias Tech: if the changes aren't big for me it may be better to wait a few versions and then upgrade
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarquil Tech: that's because zugg hasn't coded any for it for what 5 plus years?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: something like that
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: yup, means i don't have to pee about with updates
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: maybe, except upgrading takes 2 seconds and doesn't have to disrupt anything
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: but anyway, was just curious
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zylias Tech: well, it takes me longer a bit longer to save and move the relevant files, luckily there's a guide on the aard mud site, but i still don't like to do it frequently - and i know i like it how it is... hehe
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zylias Tech: in a way it's a compliment to the creator/upgrader of the version i'm currently using - it doesn't have any glaring problems for me ;)
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: which version are you using?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: do you have an AardwolfPackageChanges.txt file?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: i get lost looking through this all because my switch isn't even from my car brand let alone for my car, but i was told it'd work if i could get to the bottom of what the poles are used for, most switches have at least 5 poles on the web that i've found, some with only 4
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: man car wiring is weird
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: anyone know why my DoAfter script commands have suddenly stopped working in Mushclient???
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: oh...change that question...anyone know why my timers are not being enabled when i start up mushclient???
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Shift-Ctrl-0, and make sure the Enable Timers button is checked?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: yeah. don't know why it turns them off at startup...enabling them manually fixes the problem...thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: it doesn't turn them off at startup if you save your settings after changing it
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: who wants to answer some dumb questions about drives?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: how dumb?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: who wants to answer some dumb questions about drives?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: would anyone know what a blank partition would be that if u delete volume it shows as unallocated (not free space) and does not allow u to move into another partition?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Danj Tech: "unallocated" is not a blank partition
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Danj Tech: if you want to make a blank partition, right click on the unallocated and then click New Volume I think it is
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Danj Tech: or, if you want to expand an existing partition into unallocated space, you do that by right clicking the partition you want to expand I think
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Danj Tech: and then selecting Extend Volume
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: nod. i have done that. i have 11.72gb of unallocated space. but when i click my 2 volumes there is not an option to expand them as i did this when i shrunk my d space
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Danj Tech: hmm
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Danj Tech: the unallocated space does have to be right next to your existing volumes to be able to extend into it
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I suggest completely wiping out the D partition instead of just shrinking it
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Danj Tech: oh, yeah, if you've got a C then a D then the unallocated apce, and you want to extend the C, that's not gonna work
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: there's no reason for having multiple partitions on a single device without wanting to install multiple operating systems
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Danj Tech: you'll have to back up and remove the D in order to extend the C in that scenario
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: let me send u tells because that is not the issue either
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Danj Tech: well I am actually off to work in a minute
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Danj Tech: maybe fiendish can help
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: he was already trying :P
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I don't like giving specific advice on windows 7, sine I haven't really used it
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I can't suggest what to click on
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Danj Tech: well, I'll be back in about... 11 hours' time
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: how do you edit variables in a plugin?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: i have a rather interesting problem... for some reason my Media Player Classic suddenly refuses to play any sound. Changing the name of the exe file solves the issue, but it comes back after a reboot. Anyone knows what is doing this?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: How do I get rid of color codes in GMCP comm.channel messages?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: what?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: why?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: I'm storing them for reading with a screen reader. The color codes are spammy.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: an interesting issue
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: surely it's a bug that turning off color doesn't also turn off colors in gmcp
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you should post that as a bug note
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: what client do you use?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: I can agree that color codes come through in the comm window
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: I'm not sure. The stuff I get from GMCP looks like what I get when I type rawcolors. So I'm wondering if I have some unwanted flag somewhere? The GMCP in mushclient page does not help me, unfortunately. Using mushclient.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: especially channel titles and in auctions
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: how good are you with scripting lua stuff?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: because I can tell you how to do it
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i know there is "Tell" and "ColorTell"
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: WinkleWinkle: shhh
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Good enough. Should I just use a regexp to strip out all at signs followed by a single letter? That looks like it will kill all of them, as far as I can tell.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: hold on. there is actually a strip_colour_codes function hidden away that you can use
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: if you look inside of worlds/plugins/aardwolf_colors.lua
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: at the bottom of the file is a function called strip_colours
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Okay, thanks! I'm not using the mushclient aardwolf, but I'll grab it. None of that stuff looked useful to me, as it is all graphical windows and things. 
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: if you make a plugin and then include the line         dofile(GetPluginInfo (GetPluginID(), 20).."aardwolf_colors.lua")
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: yeah, it is all graphical stuff
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: though I do want to also make something for people who use screen readers
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I may be asking soon for help with that, since I don't use one myself
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Hold off on it. I'm about a quarter done with that. I have the design document, and the output reading, and am nearly free of telopts at this point.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: anyway, if you grab that file you can either just copy that strip_colours function  or just ues the line  I pasted above and then call the function directly from the file
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: use
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: I'll grab the file. I want to stay as close to your distribution as possible. I think I should also be able to use the mapper backend? Just comment out the line that does mapper.show on load and then use the mapper aliases.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: absolutely. I'd be very happy to help with that
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: I've been working on making an ascii non-graphical version of the GMCP mapper
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Already got it working, I think. Mapper areas is showing things, anyway.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: just let me know if you need any changes made to the official distribution for this
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: WinkleWinkle: How far have you got? Would be happy to combine efforts.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I just hope that you're working from the aardwolf mushclient package version of the mapper, because that has a lot of extra features and bug fixes over the old one from the forums
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: not very far unfortunately, but i'd be happy to contribute if possible
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i wanted to make ascii everything.. ascii health bars.. asciss gmcp map
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Neither have I. All I did was make sure the mapper window is always hidden. The aliases still work fine. Still trying to decide what else is needed.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: ascii as in ascii artwork? or ascii as in letters and numbers?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i was doign a hack-and-slash job of it as it was only for myself (up to now perhaps)
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Fiendish: strip_colours is working perfectly. Thanks!
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: wonderful!
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: like the ascii mapper, but for the gmcp mapper
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fiendish whistles appreciatively.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakon Tech: i thought the old big map was ansii?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: the old bigmap is like that, yes, though the new bigmap plugin is actually graphical
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Not sure how useful that would be to screen readers. ASCII art really isn't a good thing. What I want is to make some sort of tree view with known areas and known rooms. Expand the area branch, find the room, hit enter, and go. Problem beeing, I don't think you can make windows controls from mushclient lua scripts.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: theorectically makign an ascii display of the GMCP mapper wouldn't be too bad as the hard part (mostly) is the back-end
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: fastfinge, you can make a dropdown list
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: at least in a miniwindow you can
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: I think the best I can do is make mapper find present a menu of found rooms and allow one to be selected and used in mapper goto.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Really? Didn't know that. A listbox of all known rooms could get...large, tough.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: though.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: actually the hard part of the mapper is mostly the front end, tbh
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: the back end isn't simple, but I wouldn't want to reproduce the map display in ascii art
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: that would be tough
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yeah, I wrote my own version of the mapper "engine" with 25 lines of code....
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you can also make list boxes and stuff
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: i'll find you the right doc page
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i must admit i'm making a lot of assumptions in what I'm saying.. but I've gotten up to my elbows in a fair bit of the existing plugins
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: http://mushclient.com/scripts/doc.php?lua=utils.listbox
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Thanks Fiendish!
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: So are GMCP channel messages still sent when I'm in quiet mode?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: so would a window with a listbox with a "type to limit options" dropdown list be what you're after FastFringe?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: That would be it exactly, WinkleWinkle
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: gmcp channel messages are only sent for channels that you see in quiet mode, like gtell
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Ah, okay. So is there any way to turn off channel messages, but still get the out of band GMCP messages?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: if you have the channel tags on and then gag the line
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: the channel capture window plugin in the aardwolf mushclient package has that ability
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Hmmm. Was hoping to avoid use of tags. My trigger free screen reader scripts look so nice and clean! :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: not a big deal, though.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: ideally this would merge into the aard mushclient package and then a person could type in something like "blindusermode" to just switch
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: which means you could make use of the functions already in the available plugins
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: blindusermode == botmode?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I hope not
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: heh
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: That would be harder than it looks. First, it would need to be something like screenreader type.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Currently I have support for Jaws for Windows, Window Eyes, and Non Visual Desktop Access.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: It would then need to hide all the graphical windows, and open a new notepad window. Then load several new scripts.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: well you let me know when you're done with it, and I'll do the work to merge it into the official package
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Will do.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: hiding windows is easy
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: I dont use them since I moved to tintin, but your work is appreciated Fiendish
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fiendish gallantly tips her hat.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I don't like not having anything for non-visual players in the official client. I just don't know how to properly set everything up for screen readers, so I haven't done it yet myself.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: I'm a little confused about the internals of gmcpval. Do I have to get a table of values every time I call it? For example, I want shift f4 to announce current hit points. Can I just call gmcpval in the alias without doing all that onplugin broadcast stuff? I want the current value, I don't care when it changes.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: in theory aard_GMCP_handler.xml populates gmcpdata with persistent information
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: keep in mind that those onpluginbroadcast sections aren't actually receiving data. they're just receiving a message that data has arrived
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: the data is all kept somewhere more global
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: which is why you need that res, gmcparg = CallPlugin mumbo jumbo
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: ah, right. That handler scares me at first blush; it doesn't work the way I would expect. It works the right way, instead. LOL
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mlungu Tech: hi guys, please read note 5382 and tell me if that's enough info for you to assist me, or if more is required
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: can't help sorry :(
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mlungu Tech: why not? Not enough info?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: I've had trouble with midpssh. I just tried various versions/options from http://www.xk72.com/midpssh/download.php and something worked, good luck!
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: no exp with your problem
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mlungu Tech: that's where i downloaded this, but thanks:)
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mlungu Tech: oh okay@winklewinkle it's cool
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minwu Tech: I have a problem
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: is it that you need more cowbell?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Isn't it always?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minwu Tech: my old internet broke down for 3 days, so I started using my neighbor's internet.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minwu Tech: during this time, I started playing Aardwolf
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minwu Tech: now my old internet is fixed, but when I try to played Aardwolf, it can't connect.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Now you're addicted, and your neighbor doesn't want you using their internet anymore?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Ah..
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: and yet here you are
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minwu Tech: So I can only play Aardwolf on my neigbor's crappy internet.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: turn off your router's firewall
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: or allow an exception :P
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minwu Tech: I tried that.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minwu Tech: wait....
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: I guess the first question is, when you're connected through your internet connection, can you reach websites, etc.?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minwu Tech: so I allowed an exception for Mushclient, which should work for all my connections right?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minwu Tech: yes, on my home connection which just got fixed, I can go on websites.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minwu Tech: also, the same thing happens when my brother tried to connect to his goldeneye 007 multiplayer option.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Then yeah, it's your firewall.  What are the specifics of the exceptions you've opened up?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minwu Tech: basically, when I try to log on with my fixed connection, There's nothing for like 25 seconds then connection timed out appears.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minwu Tech: let me check.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minwu Tech: I'm going to turn off my firewall and try to log in with my good connection to see if it's actualy the firewall.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minwu Tech: it's not my firewall
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minwu Tech: maybe I need to open port... which port number was this game?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: 4010
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minwu Tech: should I open it?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: shouldn't matter
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minwu Tech: it's not my firewall that's not lettingme connect, then what is?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minwu Tech: this is what I get when I try to log in with my fiexed connection: Unable to connect to "Aardwolf", code = 10060 (Connection timed out)
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dirrty Tech: i installed an inv mini window but i cant get the actual window to pop up, is there a command to make it do so? inventory_Display is the name of it
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakon Tech: blainer's ?  if so try invdata
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: probably tags inv on
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: and invmon
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: if i have a .json file on my server, how can i 'read' it in javascript?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: my ipod keeps surging usb ports...any ideas why?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: how old is the USB port?  And what do you mean by surging?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your ipod is the slave device, it isn't surging anything
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: when i plug the ipod in to charge it on the computer, i get the message that it surged the port or overloaded the port or something
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the power in the port is provided by the computer/host, not by the ipod
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that means it wants to suck more power than the computer is ready to give it
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: happened on two computers
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: but didnt happen before which made me think it was a ipod problem
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: sysboard replacement ftw
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dirrty Tech: Line  321: Error parsing script (Cannot load)! help
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: OK Dirrty, sure we can try to help, but need a lot more info than that.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: where'd you get the file you're trying to load?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Start with the client, and what you are trying to do, is this on startup or are you trying to make your own something?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dirrty Tech: its mushclient
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dirrty Tech: Inventory_Window_2.xml
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dirrty Tech: i followed the direction on the web and removed 6dbbeddda02ed2390b58ccd9-state.xml
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakon Tech: ahh that inv miniwin,  that one is a pain to get working. the most stable one i have found is at blainer's google code page.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, blainer's google code page is the one with Inventory_Window_2.xml
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: That plugin is not good either.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakon Tech: i use test_inv 
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakon Tech: it's more stable then his other one
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dirrty Tech: any ideas?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: is there an easy way for me to reset window sizes?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: what?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: in what?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: sorry...in mushclient
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: any particular window?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you know you can just manually resize any of them with the dragger tab in the corner
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I think Fiendish would know.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: all of them basically
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I fail to see why you'd need to
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: ie if i copy my mushclient directory onto my laptop, the screen size differs...and the resize tabs are off the screen...
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: so drag the window over to the left
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: can't you just drag them about to get what you want?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: and then resize
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: no
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: the only window that might be a problem is the main output. you can reset that by typing "resetaard"
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: all other ones can be dragged sufficiently to hte left that you can then resize them
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: thanks, that is the one i needed...the others i can drag...
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: so why didn't you just ask about that one? :)
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Too easy, no fun :p
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: i thought there might have been one command to do the whole lot
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: got to have fun yes.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: no because it's not needed
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tantlus Tech: how do i set up a alarm for quest time
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: MUSH ?
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tantlus Tech: yea
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: make a trigger
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: use the You can quest message as the trigger line
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tantlus Tech: ok
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: has to be exact, cut and paste it from game
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: Also make sure you have a sound file
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tantlus Tech: yea i got it picked out
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tantlus Tech: but dont know how to play it so my options 
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tantlus Tech: many
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: then there is a Box that says sound, you can click test or w/e after you pick the file. If the trigger line is correct it will make the sound for your quest ready ^^
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tantlus Tech: awesome thnks alot
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: pretty ez, once you get the hang nice to make double alarms as well ^^
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tantlus Tech: double what for gq as well
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Tech: how well does the java client work?
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fantomex Tech: So, technically, itsn't it Friday, Friday and we gotta get down on Friday?
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: It's friday. Not tecnhnicaly, it's just friday.
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: aka misspeling day :)
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Midway Tech: how to bind F1-F12 to alias?
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: do it client side
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: like make f1 get jade bag;drink jade
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Midway Tech: in game>config>alias ? or in the same game
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: would be yer client, i use a mac so no mush for me:(
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: yer gonna need a mush user to tell ya how to set up aliases in mush
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Midway Tech: yes i ve mush, i am going to try thx
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: midway, the fkeys are game -> configure -> macros
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Midway Tech: could i desactivate f1 for mushclient in order to use this key?
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Midway Tech: is a window help :/
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: there's a tickbox in the settings iirc
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: i wish i could use mush without having to go out and buy parallels
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prattler Tech: yes, go through the options, there is a setting somewhere
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: you could use virtualbox with xp on it, limunious
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: wine should work as well
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: oh lemme google those two things
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: fiendish uses mush on wine afaik
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: is he on a mac too?
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reina Tech: any car expert here?
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: there aren't such things these days
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: is there any way to keep the colors on, but change them all to like the duller versions? in the regular game ansi
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: so wine seems to be the best option to be able to use mush on a mac?
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: free option that is
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: I think you might have been looking for 'colorset normal' earlier Limunious.
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: ph 5
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: ack thanks!
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: And yes, people have reported success with Mush under wine.
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: ...on macs
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: thanks:)
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witblitz Tech: how do i put these spellheaders off?
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: what spellheaders?
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witblitz Tech: when i get online then it shows this with alot of spells not casted {/spellheaders}
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: are you using a spellup plugin?
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witblitz Tech: trying to fix it... laptop crashed so just reinstalled mush and the plugin
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: as far as I know that's not an aardwolf feature, so it's probably something in the script doing it.
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witblitz Tech: spellup plugin
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: ooh, now lasher just needs to make is so we can use xterm colours in channels and stuff ;)
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: Does anyone know the default font and size for MUSHclient? 
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: the size depends on your screen size, that I know
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: I'll mess with that one. What about the font itself?
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Littbarski Tech: Lucida Console, 9pt
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: Ahhh thanks!
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Littbarski Tech: this is on the new Aardwolf Client, ver 4.72
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: I havent updated at my dad's house yet. I will soon.
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: Ok the wolf doesn't look deformed anymore lol
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm on aard mud client v7.21
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: are usb ports that come with a computer "powered hubs"?
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: sortof
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they have 500mA of power supplied each
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: what is a proper powered hub, does it plug into the wall and then just have a usb port or something?
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sue Tech: basically yeah. 
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sue Tech: why do you ask? 
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: okay thanks a lot tiger and sue
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: plugs into your pc and into the mains to provide 500mA of power to each usb socket
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: my ipod (my only means of communication cuz its got the free texting application) keeps surging my computer...so i read online that i should get a powered hub and it would be okay to charge that way
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: might help
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: does it surge any other pc's when you try it?
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: yeah
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: only tried two....but surged two
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: might want to try a replacement cable
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: what do you mean by surging?
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mlungu Tech: then it may be that the cable is faulty
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: or the ipod
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: message says something like Power surge on hub port device exceeded...
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Mine don't do that.
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sue Tech: you might get away with a powered hub, but id agree that a replacement cable would be a good thing to try
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I think his cable is bad.
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: okay cool, just the cable that connects the ipod to the comp?
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sue Tech: yup
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yep, if that doesn't work, send it off for repair
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: cool thanks a lot for your tips
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mlungu Tech: that's the one, either the cable, or one of the strips in the usb plug on the cable
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: You very welcome Raijon.
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: What is the name of the big map plugin for the new MUSHclient?
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: get rid of the rich person entitlement and achieve a lot
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: mis
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: some people who aren't doing anything want to be working but dont have the option
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: mis
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: lol fail
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Well Micky D's is having there big hiring thing on the 19th.
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Atlantic Monthly had a very interesting article on AI, conversation bots, and the Turing test: http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2011/03/mind-vs-machine/8386/
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: How can I disable echo on my android phone?
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: huh?
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: the mud doesn't echo commands. your client does that.
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: oh. ok thanks.
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: well, kinda.  We have echocommands now.
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: its just a minor inconvinience, thats all.
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: echocommands is not a standard thing
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: and probably not what he's talking about
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakon Tech: stop playing on your cell phone and play properly on a computer.
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: Whoa no call for that sir.
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: no, I love playing on my cell.
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: I would if i could, I promise you that.
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wabisuke Tech: I don't
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sue Tech: what client are you using zerstorer? 
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: telnet?
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: did I every say about you playing with yourself down there yet, A good many play on phones.
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sue Tech: you should try blowtorch
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: dont know how to input the name and port
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wabisuke Tech: andromud ftw
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I don't know they like blowtorch on there thingies.
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Maybe some would like that.
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wabisuke Tech: try blowtorch and andromud.. I prefer andromud
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: i use andromud
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: host name, port number etc. i dont know what to put
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sue Tech: i can help you get blowtorch setup. the custom buttons are really nice.
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sue Tech: if you put aardwolf.org in host name
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: go on
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wabisuke Tech: aardmud.org port 4000
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nausicaa Tech: is ther mccp on the android mud clients?
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sue Tech: port 23 works for me. 
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: idts
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sue Tech: blowtorch has mccp
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: 4000 worked.
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: ill b on there soon
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wabisuke Tech: lol I don't think I could compete s
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nausicaa Tech: cool
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sue Tech: i can send you a button layout for aard
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: cool
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shazar Tech: is there a good mud client for the iphone?
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: now about these custom buttons.
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nausicaa Tech: There's a free one called Portable Mud i think...
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sue Tech: press and hold to make a button
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nausicaa Tech: not the best way to play, but it works
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shazar Tech: ah okay thanks will check it out :)
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: press and hold what
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sue Tech: just press and hold on the text window
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sue Tech: label is what shows up on the button,  cmd is what is sent to the mud. 
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: ok this is a Linux question, I use Ubuntu and looking for a new printer AiO.  What do those in the linux communtity suggest.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: just about any printer will work :p
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Not sure why it has to be exclusively Linux question
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Kodak don't work
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I have a Brother MFC something or other
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Yeah - CUPS isn't nearly as limited on drivers as it used to be...
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: I've got an HP
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because it must be supported by gimp-print/cups
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Bad grammar, sorry - but manufacturers are pretty good at providing drivers nowadays
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: plenty of crappy printers that don't work left
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I have a kodak 3250 that don't work.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Try HP or Brother
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and as she's looking at an AIO, she probably wants more functionality than just printing
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: generally, to get a good printer, it should be heavy and expensive
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Yes Abelinc I am looking for more support as to card reading and such.  I seen that Hp is more linux developed.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Just looked at the AiO google scene and you're right, it's pretty empty
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Might want to research Dell printers as currently they're the only big manufacturers (I think?) offering Linux OOB
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: on their computers
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Linux is an OS, not a manufacturer.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: linux is a kernel
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Not sure how that was relevant to my statement...
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: entopee's saying they offer linux as an option preloaded on their computers...
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dell was the manufacturer mentioned
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: as for driver support on linux, it's been years since I've had any such problems. Most printers nowadays just work out of the box.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: but google before buying, just to be sure
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: yes dell does offer Laptops with Linux, I am looking at full AiO printer support and asking all those that use Linux on what they use.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: the only problem I've had with my brother is that my particular model can't send faxes with VoIP
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: so the fax line has to be a standard line
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: and that is Fiendish?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I use a MX-2700 and a MX-1800 at work, and they are great, but might be a bit too expensive. At home I have a 15 year old HP that weighs a ton, but always work.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I think MFC-8840D. I forget.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are any of those AIOs, ranrr?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: here's HPs site on their stuff: http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/index.html
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: the sharp MX-xxxx are multifunction stuff, but more for office usage
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: AiO == All-in-One
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I am not asking for cheap, I just want one that will work.  Deskjet, Laser, it don't matter.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylac Tech: hp would be your best bet for an aio that works out of the box
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylac Tech: i've had 2 in the last 3 years that worked out of the box
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: I will say that my HP photosmart AiO worked OOB, too...
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: A major difference between cheap and expensive printers is toner cost, check that before buying
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: it can easily be a factor of 20-30 difference
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Ranrr I am not the one providing the cost.  
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: where are you going to use the printer?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: in a business enviroment.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Then I recommend the sharp MX-1800 or 2700, those are great.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: for 1k to 2k units?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: what do you mean by 1k units?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: 1000 plus
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: are we talking price here?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: No I don't give a poo about price right now.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: all I want is an AiO printer that will work in linux.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: You want to buy 1k-2k individual units?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: yes Entopee
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: ah
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: so one printer per computer I assume?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: You might be better off talking to professional printer consultants who specialize in Linux
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Kodak can't deliver.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: just buy 3 printers...think of all the money you would save!!!!  (Come on, it is a great idea.......????)
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: No I found specialist in the gameing world.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if one component of an AiO breaks down .. 
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Just buy a few different and test them. If you're going to buy thousands of units, you should have the budget for that.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Rannrr we don't have the time to buy and test few units.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: an AiO saves office space over three separate components
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: We are moving to Ubuntu 10.10, So to clearify things, we need AiO's that will work.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, then go to HP, and tell them you will buy 1k printers from them if they guarantee linux support.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: been there, they don't know about AiO support.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: try again, and ask to talk to the sales manager
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: no Kodack don't support Linux at all.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: "clarify" - to convert things into soup  (fractured dictionary)
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylac Tech: have you checked out hplip? they have a list of AIO's that they recommend
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylac Tech: hplip package to be exact
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I gave the URL to it earlier
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Yes I looked at Hplip, and no it don't support the AiO we want, will tha
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: just curious, why put one printer on each computer instead of central shared printers?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but "the aio we want", from the perspective of how you came into the thread here is the one that works...so the one it supports is the one you want :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Rannrr It's not the individual computers.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ok, so you have 1k office locations, or...?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: more then 1k.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: and how many people at each office?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: truthfully 7 to 9, but not quote me on that.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ok, then I think the sharp MX-1800N would be a good choice actually. 
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: It's a real office printer, networked and all. Just works.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: an it can take the pressure of printing a 1k pages a day.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Sure, but if you want that volume, you may want to go for MX-2700 or even higher.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: 2700 means 27 pages per minute, 1800 means 1800 pages per minute etc
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: actually, with that volume and that quantity, I'd be leasing
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: they have even faster ones as well
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: no the volume is not that high but it can get there.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: leasing an office copier takes care of toner and maintenance costs
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: yeah, I agree, leasing is probably a good choice, then you just pay a cost per page and everything is taken care of for you
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: We went that route Abelinc, 
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: It's not cost effective.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, then you didn't have a good contract
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: actually, your offices may be a bit too small for leasing to be cost effective
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: let me explain, Our printing don't cost us much as do to corporate.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: so those that responded Thank you, Ubuntu 10.10.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: no it's not a network printer problem.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: wha is the cost of a cheap Msbox as an intermediary between the Linux computer and a Win-AiO-printer
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: As in, the MSBox acting as a print server?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: since the available AiO-printers depend on Win-software, yep 
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: something like that would be a pain to support
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Well, it depends on load, but you can pick up the box that someone left on my sidewalk 10 mins ago and it should work fine
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: It's more of a matter of the intercompatability
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: like I told my bosses, Linux support is not ready for mainstream.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Hardware support is pretty awful
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Everything "works," but Linux is treated as a second-class citizen
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You're wrong. You're looking at cheap home junk, not real hardware.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: no not everything works
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Wait, so "cheap home junk" is not mainstream?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: an no I am not looking at cheap home junk.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Depends on what you mean with mainstream.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, hardware support of that level doesn't matter for business machines...you don't have to support whatever walks in the door, you choose the hardware based on business need
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I agree with that - maybe I wasn't looking at the business aspect of mainstream
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: if Linux is not ready for homes then it darn poo is not ready for business.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and supporting hardware-based directx video shading doesn't matter for the overwhelming majority of business applications ;-)
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not really true, saatai, depends on the business
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a business computer doesn't need to do everything. it needs to do its job
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: generally, business needs are much simpler to support than home needs
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: well ours don't need to do gameing graphics
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: but I found my asnwer this night, if linux can't support printers then well we will stay with Windows
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: and since it can support printers, you can go with linux :)
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: printers is much different than aio...
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: It's not Linux that can't support printers
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it supports printing to many aio units, but supports the scanning features of a smaller subset
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: if Linux wants to be mainstream it has to live in mainsteam.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: business isn't mainstream
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Milkshake Tech: if it wants to be mainstream, hardware has got to transition to open specs :p
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but it cannot dictate to hardware without already being mainstream ;-)
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: if your requirement for an OS is that it has to support any HW you throw at it, then windows is your only choice
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Milkshake Tech: no, my requirement is that it supports SOME acceleration hardware well
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, yeah, I could even run windows on my alpha ;-)
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Milkshake Tech: but it can't really do even that because of those jackasses not opening up their platform specs :p
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: That was a long, long, long time ago, Abe
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: acutally I like Linux, it supports my home crap very well, but I am tasked to do the office crap so Now I am the bad gir.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's what I still MUD from, ranrr :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Cool :)
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: is reason I asked all of you.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: of course I don't have the ARC firmware loaded, since I'd never put NT on it
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, teh Sharp MX series work fine in any OS. And there are plenty of other options as well.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: And there are plenty of stuff that won't work.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Make a choice.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Will it run ... in EMACS?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Ranrr I will bring up your suggestion later this day.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: and I am not taking credit for any it.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ok :)
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: as I already said I will go out and find those that know.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hi boss? yeah, I talked to some guy on a MUD, he suggested the sharp mx1800n
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ranrr laughs out loud.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: let's order 1k of 'em
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Yea now Abe wants to get dumb again.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Entopee snickers softly.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Abelinc I just really truely have to ask this question of you.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ask away :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: No, you don't.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Nobody is holding a gun to you forcing you to say it ;)
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Okami Tech: is there a way to make the mushclient health/mana/moves bar into numerical values instead of the bar value?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: How stupid are you?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Have you enabled the StatMon?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: about half as much as the one who asked :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: no fair answering a question with a question...
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Okami: the whole point is the bars. If you just want numerical values, set up your prompt.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Not as stupid as you'remaking yourself look, Saatai.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Okami Tech: i understand the prompt but i dont like how it appears after every line
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Cheez you fit right in there.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Okami Tech: and would like it to be in a bar underneeth
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: If you say so.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I am not the one that got my ass in trouble and then had to remake.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Heh, the relevance here is?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: You still here.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: At the rate you're going, you probably won't be :P
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: botting can catch up to you yes.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Okami: sorry. that's just not the purpose of that particular plugin right now, but it's not an unreasonable idea. Please submit your suggestion to https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/issues/list
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Wow, this "discussion" went south when I looked awat for a few mins.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You rapidly nod twice at Ranrr, in complete agreement.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: seems to happen from time to time
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: once she didn't need anything, true colors came out
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Welcome to tech chan, Ranrr :P
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Nods, once Saatai gets what she needs, she proceeds to flame anything that moves. Don't let it phase ya :P
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: no, not south, North, I asked a simple linux Aio question, and look what the dog dragges in.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Okami Tech: was i called an idiot for asking to make it numerical?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: no
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Okami Tech: i have no idea what ia happening anymore -___-
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no okami
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Okami: no.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: She wasn't directing that at you.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Okami Tech: ok im going back to levling -____-
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Okami: do 'tech -h fiendish'
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Apparently, Abe, cheez and possibly me are the idiots right now.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: no Ranrr
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: and neither are they.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smirk.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ok, good.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheezburger boggles at the concept.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ranrr does the happydance with Saatai !
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Either someone got reprimanded, or you're multiplaying :P
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: no I am not multiplaying I value your input wether you think so or not.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: and yes do I not like both of them, well I be lying is I say I loved them.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I'm just going to interject in this delightful conversation to point and laugh for a bit at -> (Debate) Xyliz: 'Pleaidas, were you born after 1985 (when CD digital replaced vinyl/cassette -- you likely are digitally-damaged from listening the digital music - missing mental-circuitry that never developped from lack of genuine analog recorded AAA music'
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Love's over-rated anyways.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: but what I am looking at we are moving to Ubuntu 10.10, so I am tasked with the task of AiO printer.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Yes Cheeze it is
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: and I do thank all those that answered so far.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I am looking at Hp and Sharp, So far Hp has given me a reponse.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: look I just asked a legimate question, they want to take my head off, so be it.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your head was taken off because of your personal attacks, not the question...we attempted to help with your question
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: and yes you did Abelinc.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: not taking my head off but answering my question.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: i've seen it all, now - this HP laptop screen is attached to the plastic chassis with..... glue
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Midway Tech: i cant mete run campaign plugin
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Midway Tech: can somone upload it for me please=?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: go to all the expense and annoyance of replacing the tft panel then the fepping screen cable falls apart
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: cue another 6 week search for a part
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: poxy pointless bloody laptops
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: ban them
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Midway Tech: i have problems with campaig plugin it doesnt work 
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Midway Tech: can someone upload for me ? and said me www??
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Midway Tech: how to disable f1 in musclient in order to macro?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=10712
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: global prefs -> general
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Midway Tech: somebody use campaign plugin?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I use one, but there are many
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: would be sweet if dtrack could be customized to track incoming damage!
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Is it me, or is maxstats.maxstr/maxint/maxwis/maxcon/maxdex/maxstr/maxluck mislabeled? From what I can see, those all seem to be base stats, and your eq adds to them in chr.stats.str/etc. I would expect the char.maxstats values for those to be what the maximum I can train to is?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: maxstats is what your help maxstats total is
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: no it's not, dokkar
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Doesn't seem to be. 
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: No it isn't, it's your pre-modified total
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: they're your base stat, and the value in char.stats is with spells/eq
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: IE, trained value
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: currently my stats.str is larger than what gmcp says my maxstats.str is. That's...an interesting way to do it.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Max == max trained, stats = trained + eq + spells
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: So GMCP can't get me the numbers from maxstats, then. I guess I can calculate them if I care enough.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkDD03yeLnU
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: It depends on my mood tbh
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: mis
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: a nice mis, though.  Works equally well for pretty much anything.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I believe the question was mac or pc?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cartman Tech: the question was how to you script, cli or gui :P
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Never either, always linux :P
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: What with mushclient supporting, like, 7 scripting languages, I'm surprised we've avoided a VB script erses Java Script flamewar.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: erses rather
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Nah everyone knows LUA is where it's at
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I learned lua so I could play WoW from within Aard.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: the lag's horrible, though
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: LUA? Seriously? It combines all fo the bad things about C and JavaScript with all of the bad things about VB. I use it, but I don't think it's anywhere near where it is at. Or if it is there, I don't want it. Whatever it is.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: I would preferer javascript over lua, if mushclient supported current version of it. As it is now, it's really poor.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: anyone know how to move your camera to a new section of land in dwarf fortress, i moved my vision away from the large square my fortress is in and i cnat seem to get back
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fastfinge, the advantage of lua, from an aard player perspective, is that you can use a single language for anything you're involved in on aard
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Where anything is defined as scripting mushclient?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no fastfinge
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Darn poo it's strange I have to agree with Abelinc on something.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the advantages of lua from a programming perspective are in that it was designed from the start to be embeddable
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fastfinge, aard itself has lua embedded into it
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Agreed. So learning it means you can script a bunch of apps. That's why I use it over JS or VB or whatever. 
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so mprogs are written in lua, etc
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: most people on aard aren't people that program out of aard
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Ah, didn't know that. Assumed Aard was LPC/mushcode/whatever the mud code flavour of the week is.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so they're going to be learning from scratch, from the perspective of using it on aard
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aard is written in c
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not any codebase, it's Lasher's creation
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I thought was C++
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Used to be diku, no?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: used to be isn't is :P
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Ah okay. It looks kind of like a DIKU from a player POV, so I assumed it was.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: no it's is an own codebase now.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, it had been a diku/merc/rom...it was writted from scratch as a workalike
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: That would explain where the credit banner went. :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: C is a first try at C++.  C++ is a bugfix to get rid of embarassing/unaccounted for errors.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so when it transitioned to custom, players were still familiar
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: lol, omfg
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, many would call c++ an abomination of c
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Actually I can't see why they would?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: The problem is always trying to compare c to c++.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Not an argument or so called, but I find C++ is pretty nice.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: feel free to move this religious discussion to debate....or any other channel that I don't really monitor.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You fluffle Tyebald mercilessly, making his fur a terrible mess.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Sure. You monitoring newbie? JK
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: no, I'm not.  can move it there if you want.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: it is the tech channel Tyebald so move your bottome to any channel you so desire.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm not :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: anywho, back to catching up on 100 notes that seemed to appear out of nowhere :P
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: I like the "thought model" of c++, but c gets to the point :)
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I downright straight to the point.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: nothing wrong with C at all.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: C didn't do crap to protect the user.  Beyond that, it's great.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Has anyone documented best practices for making a mushclient distro? I have some alpha quality code for screen readers, but my Aardwolf world is full of my password and mapper DB and so on. Wouldn't want to forget to kill something private, and I'm not sure I know what, and where, eerything is kept.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: c isn't for the user
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Grizzler nod ableinc
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fastfinge, put everything into plugin form
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Dokkar C wasn't designed to protect the user, that is the programmers responsiblity.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: user = programmer when talking programming languages.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you only have to distribute the plugin file
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sue Tech: I love C
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Then I am sorry You not know how to use a complier.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Problem is, aliases and macros defined by plugins don't show up in the GUI. And I was hoping to avoid documentation.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: never hope to avoid documentation
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: put the documentation into the plugin
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so they type something like vi-help and it gives them the help
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: no need for documentation.  All the aliases etc that plugins use are kept in the .xml file already
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: You can't avoid the documentation.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: that is true with any language.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: I have over eighty aliases and a good 20 or 30 hotkeys. We're looking at more of a manual than a help listing at this point.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then how do you think you would've avoided documentation?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: may I ask for what?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: Any language, document your code if you want someone else to readily understand what you are doing.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: saatai, mushclient for the blind
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Thank you Abelinc
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: All of the aliases are labeled according to function. So pull up the GUI and it's self documenting.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can still make it just as self-documenting
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: there are screen readers and experimental implants.  What more do they wish for?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: screen readers that work with the program you're using
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you haven't used mush with a channel capture with a screenreader, keep your comment about the necessity to yourself :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: okies it's for the blind, why they need a GUI?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Because I can't stand remembering commands.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: they can't see the screen.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the gui exists whether they need it or not...they need to be able to work within its confines
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: because the programmer didn't see the point in maintaining a VI-compatible version.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: only asking Dokkar
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Hmmm, although it looks like I can put these aliases in menus. I didn't know that. The wonders of reading manuals! I think I'll be okay.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: or creating one to begin with, for that matter.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when he's saying bring it up in the gui, he means ctrl-shift-9 to list the aliases, etc
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not that they're using the gui itself in gui form
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: ok I am stupid are you supporting all text readers?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are only a few main ones to worry about, really
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: that would be silly, there's too many to be all-inclusive
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Jaws for Windows, Window Eyes, and any Nonvisual Desktop Access release after 2011.1 is what I've got support for right now.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MS, jaws & I always forget the third, but ofcourse jaws really rules the market
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I know abelinc, but he can have there support staff to support what he is doing.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Jaws is probably number 1
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not really
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: and even then the tech will invariably improve faster than you're likely to keep up.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: by far, in usage
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: especially if the company/developer works anything like MS and just changes stuff randomly every few versions.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: freedom scientific's got a pretty big stronghold on the marketplace, with jaws, openbook, etc
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Okay, back in quiet mode while I stumble through this. Done lots of scripting for personal use in mushclient, never wanted to release any of it.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: well I am pretty happy to someone is taking the time to develope stuff for the biind.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Being blind, it's work I'm doing anyway.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I know curi had worked on it for a bit before giving up on mush & going back to tf :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: What about coding with a config option to pipe things to espeak?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Never thought of that. Wouldn't using SAPI be better, though?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: cross platform - no one digging for "special" dollars
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: espeak works with sapi, and cross-platform is wholly-irrelevant when talking about scripting a windows program
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: Well, if you are *only* talking about windows like linux, bsd, etc. and mac do not exist.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mushclient compiles for windows only...running it under the others using emulation works, but the access to OS-level things like piping won't be the same
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: Not going to argue about that :)
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: isn't mush windows client?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my client, tinyfugue, compiles under unix/linux, windows, OSX, OS/2, etc...but you can't do external calls in the windows version (not sure about the os/2 version)
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: If I were blind, windoze would be my last choice for an OS.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: probably not
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: much easier to say that when you've got options available to you
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: well if you was blind, You would find a lot is not available to you.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: It is. I'd rather OS X. But I need to know Windows if I want to work in nearly any office in the world. They all want Microsoft Outlook, or Lotus Notes. Both Windows only.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: Yes, it is sad.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I have to ask this question, If you was blind, How would you know what is best for you as you would not have any idea what is available.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: he peeked.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd go with what you have support available for
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: I, in fact, do know what is available. I have access to a windows PC, a Linux machine, and an OS X macbook. 
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: which is windows
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: Well, you can read about other operating systems versus windows where you need to look at pictures.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: also a lot depends on when blindness set in
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can read?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then of course there's getting a reader to work in bios ;-)
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: You used to be able to get them to send output to a printer, and then hook up a braille printer. But not so much anymore.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, my alpha uses a serial console :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: I would really like to see windoze be usefull booting to a command line.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: who makes a braille printer anymore, I don't know of any?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: Oh wait, that's coming after they finsih ripping off un*x.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Seeral companies make them. 
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: seattle public library's got a sweet ADA center with the braille pads below the keyboards, etc
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: Try no X with a reader.  What could be better?  Oh, media centers providing text output...
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: No offense meant here, but the internet currently operates like a wheelchair ramp with cinder blocks in front of it.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: I don't find it that bad, honestly. CAPTCHAs are a huge issue, but other than that, I can mostly get everything I want working to work.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: most captchas have at least added a speak me
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Yeah, and it's so garbled you can't tell if it said 16 G 42 or my pants are on fire help.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: Can you really read cnn, etc.?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hehehe
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Yes.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: no I can't read I failed 1st grade.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: though I go for AP articles hosted on news.google.ca when I can, because the layout is so nice and clean. And full text RSS is a good thing, when I can get it.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: But I can deal with CNN, if I must.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: I have disabled their styling and have found most sites to be terrible.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I failed Kindergarden due to spelling issues when Abelinc slapped the back on my head too many times for aggrivating him.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Yeah, but a reader does more than disable styling.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You gasp as you realize what he did.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Very naughty Turie
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: It can report on style information, disable some parts of style and not others, ignore iframes on some pages, etc.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we found section508 compliance to be not that much of a change from our existing site
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mostly just being better about the descs we put into the alt tags
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: Yeah, 508 compliance...  Who would know what they can't see?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: biggest thing we had to do was create a page with descriptions of the entries in the slideshow on our front page
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Amusingly enough, slashdot is much harder to read than CNN. The site for tech people managed to do it almost all wrong, while the mainstream media site got it right.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: CNN probably gets more ADA lawsuit threats
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Yeah, but slashdot is supposed to be full of geeks and programmers. So one would think they'd just get it right, by default.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: hahahahahahahaha
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, those who make more money have more to lose by noncompliance
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: right, because engineers always get interfaces right the first time
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: your on slashdot?  I have to laugh now.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: geeks & programmers want to trick things out, not work on limiting things
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Well, no. But they usually get it wrong in an accessible way. You'd think seperation of style and content would be a no brainer for the people at slashdot, and hard for the managers at CNN to grasp. But apparently it's the other way round.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Yeah. Mostly because the trolls amuse me.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: well, i'm cnn's managers don't maintain their website :P
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cnn's managers don't make their site...
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: i'm sure, rather
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: left out a word
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: if you want to abuse you self, I can send you a bat.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but the geeks on slashdot do make theirs
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: No, but it's usually the managers who drive inaccessible things like pop-under advertising and AJAX scrolling comment systems etc.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you hire out your site to a truly-professional company, it'll be accessible
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: The geeks, other than the ones in charge of slashdot, usually aren't quite as interested in being flashy and stupid.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: lotta faith
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (but not all professional web design shops are really professional...bargain shopping isn't advised)
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: Doesn't slashdot offer a built in read ability?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: is he on dope?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I want some of that poo crap.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: eww, saatai wants poo :P
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: He recycles, extremely.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Slashdot offers CAPTCHAs, and dynamic scrolling threaded comments of strangeness that mean unless I sign up for an account, getting someone to help with the signup captcha, and go and change to classic comment system, I can't read slashdot comments at all, ever.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: that makes me believe you not able to read at all.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: Not surprising, slashdot has gone the way of the toilet for a while.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: you do know you can change the language
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: Slashdot gave up being a geek for looking like a geek a long time ago.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Yeah, it has. But I haven't found a better place to discuss putting things down Natalie Portman's pants...I mean...tech news.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: LOL, LMAO
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: Okay, I don't want to argue with anyone anymore.  I'm tired.  What would be nice is if we could come up with an open, cross-platform, way to do things that could be built in to any software.  Oh, so dreamy, but so practical.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: who is argueing?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: You're scaring me. I'm having Java flashbacks!
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: you asked your question, we did the best to answer said question.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: You're right Saatai.  We aren't arguing.  I think the screen reader packages are a bad way to go though.  Why not have built in options to an espeak like system?  Why not?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: built into what?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: yes I would have the options.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Agreed. I'll stick in SAPI.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sapi is already a built-in option to espeak like systems
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: Only with MS.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: But many of us would rather use our screenreader, than have a different TTS system in mushclient.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: and mushclient only works in MS. So we're good.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I hope you support a linux system also.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: mushclient works in linux just fine
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: And being only MS mean I quit this mud.  Good bye all.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fiendish, not for low system calls
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Mush works in wine.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in wine isn't running on the OS
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: If you want to write TTS support for Linux, be my guest. I don't mud on linux, so I can't and therefor won't.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: in, not on
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: I won't be installing TF on the company webserver to play with it, thanks.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: if a mac program runs through Rosetta, it isn't not running in Mac OS
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you say so, fiendish
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I will say I've never tried using a screen reader though, so I don't know if that works
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: that's a Mac, how many actually use a mac to do anything?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I use Mac to do a lot of things. Actually one of those things is to run MUSHclient.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: saatai, more than use linux
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: probably so Abelinc, but would not be an Os I would chose.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: another one of those things is to stream netflix movies
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: because moonlight sucks
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nobody asked you to choose it, though :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're requesting him to support linux, though
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: no they didn't
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I guess technically microsot sucks for not supporting a more open drm
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: no, I am just asking, what he does is him.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: By the way Fiendish, do you have an out of game email address or something? Need a good way to get you these files some time next week.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: finger me
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Fiendish has a site
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hehe, I always lol when I read that email :P
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Oh. I just assumed that email was a fake MYOB style thing.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: people always ask for my email address because they think it's fake. it's not fake. it's bloody real.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: no it's not fake
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah, fiendish is a big fan of addresses that always make you hesitate before going there ;-)
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I mean, are you gonna trust a site that says notporn?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: notporn is owned by a german squatter who wants $1000. bastards.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ouch, you totally lost it?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: no, I've always had the hyphenated form
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, gotcha
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: I feel sorry for you fiendish. Do your emails get filed in the spam folders of everyone else on earth? LOL. I mean, nothing with the word porn gets through company firewalls these days.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I feel bad for any company with an IT department so incompetent as to filter based on a word in the address field
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I don't think he's using that domain for business communications
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: also it's just a redirect for one of my gmail accounts
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: My university did that! All the time! To staff and students! And then blocked external IMAP and POP serers! I didn't feel sorry for them. Hatred was more the word I'd pick.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Fiendish is using that for business, I not think so.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: And then they gave us access to local NNTP servers that had all the alt.binaries groups. Go figure.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.lesbian.turtles
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not-porn.com isn't in any of the 100 blacklists at http://www.mxtoolbox.com/blacklists.aspx
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: not-porn doesn't send any email
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but it could :P
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: maybe it should!
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: no it don't Fiendish.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: It wouldn't be. Content filters just blacklist on the word porn. It wouldn't get in a DNSBL.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: yourmom@not-porn.com has a certain ring to it
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I find it hard to believe that any content filter that isn't completely broken would just block something from not-porn.com because it has the word porn in it
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: trust me, Fiendish sites are very safe.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not about being broken, it's about being configured by someone paranoid
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: or a lawyer.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the content filter just does what it's told
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: about the only thing unsafe about my site is the wording of the WTFPL
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: What bout notot-porn.com. The double negative means you can send porn, right?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Fiendish I love your site
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: thank you
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I'm particularly fond of my front page
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, yeah, that took me by surprise when you changed it :P
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: WebSense is nearly always configured to be that broken.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we use websense, but don't do anything word-based
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: When I was in catholic high school, a site hosting the King James Bible got blocked for having the word ass.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: he changed it?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: the site used to have a slightly different structure before I moved to a new host
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: I can't delete.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: so
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: though the page at http://www.not-porn.com/ has always been the same
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: fuck
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: fuck
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: fuck
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: fuck
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: fuck
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: fuck
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: fuck
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: fuck
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: fuck
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: fuck
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: fuck
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: that won't help you delete
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: fuck
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: fuck
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: fuck
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: fuck
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: fuck
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: fuck
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: thats what she said
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: fuck
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: fuck
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: fuck
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: fuck
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: fuck
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: fuck
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: fuck
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Talleron raises an eyebrow.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: might help with nochan, though.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: fuck
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: fuck
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: fuck
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: fuck
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: fuck
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: on it hasn't, fiendish...it used to go to just RPI's cs
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: fuck
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: fuck
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: not my tpye grizzler
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Grizzler is having a stroke?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: actually, nvm, I think I'm confusing the root with non-cap aardwolf
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I think you're thinking of the broken link page
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: oh speaking of which. I need a custom 404 page.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nodnod, now they got rid of the RPI custom 404
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: never quite understood why people had to "delete".  just don't log in again.  it's not like the name you burn was so hyper popular that the rest of the world will cry themselves to sleep over not being able to use it.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, you're not hosted there anymore, that'd explain it
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: yeah. I moved to nearlyfreespeech.net
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I got tired of the RPI CS servers always going down. I know I can't complain about really fast, free hosting, but it was getting ridiculous.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can't blame ya...aside from not going there anymore, they'd had problems a lot at the end
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: weeks of downtime toward the end got me to switch. the hosting size and traffic is low enough that NFS is like a dollar or two per year. I can spare a cup of coffee every year.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: I've deleted from muds before, but mostly when I had a serious problem with the administration. And that was only so the loyal players would see I had made a statement when they tried to look me up in the ranking list and I was gone.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: god damn you can't just delete your shit here?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: read 'help delete'
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: poo?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Just freeze you can't come back :)
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: help delete
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: er....what fiendish said.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Wait. Is Grizzler seriously deleting because I don't want to add linux support to my TTS package? And he isn't even blind? ROFL!
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I dunno man. I can't imagine that that's why.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Hope not. But that's what we were talking about when he had his delete stroke.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: Nope.  I already destroyed my char.  It's because this mud thinks MS is the way to go when MS is a pile of shit.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fiendish boggles at the concept.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: ...
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Uh,, Grizzler? I am not "this mud". I'm me.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dugrant Tech: Can you hurry up and delete Gizzler.  The whining is making my eyes hurt.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: You mean the people who are playing right now, and talking on the tech channel....I doubt this mud has any official position on the matter.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: What? This mud runs on any client, and mushclient runs in wine on linux
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Seriously? The game runs on a linux machine and MUSHclient works just fine in Linux, dude.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: wine wine wine...fucking wine
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Not to mention the great mudlet package that's detailed on the wiki
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: and this channel isn't official tech support, it's just a geek chat forum in the mud
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: it's also not an x-rated channel.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: this is not a curse channel. please stop.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: It's like the bastard shit for people that don't give a shit...wine...you use wine?  You suck.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: OOOOKAY, Richard.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Right. But because I don't want to add Linux support to a TTS package for Aardwolf Mushclient that I'm writing, obviously all of you are Microsoft lovers and the entire mud hates Linux and kills free software programmers for fun. Go away.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Again, try telnet or mudlet
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dugrant Tech: Gizzler, you're kind of a let down.  All this big talk about deleting and no follow through.  You're becomming mainstream brah.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Wine is so good with a Linux Steak.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: I can't delete.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: so just leave
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: we don't care what happens to your character
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: but you can freeze.  though, apparently, you can't read.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dugrant Tech: Type quit... and never come back.  Same basic principal.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: Nah, I'll wait until someone fucking bans my IP.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: hey Grizzler, can you take TomCruise with you when you go? THANKS!
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: way to be an adult
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: "freeze self <password> over 9000" will be the equivalent of a delete
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dugrant enthusiastically high-fives Fiendish!
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: God, I want to suck Balmer's dick.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: so....you can't delete.  and because one command isn't available to you, you've decided that everyone must suffer.  on the plus side, one command this mud DOES have is 'ignore'.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Velian nods at Tyebald.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: did that one awhile ago ;)(
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Grizzler You should prefix all the messages to god with the pray command. They'll help you, I'm sure.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: LOL
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dugrant Tech: If there's one thing that I've always said about Grizzler, it's that he enriches our lives... with the lack of his presence.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You could tell Lasher you are a bot. He might nuke you.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: *Yay!*  Go Tyebald!!!  Kinjin cheers him on.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: "recreate" permits the name to be reused by the password-owner of the character (atteched to the name)
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: I'd vote for ghosting.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I'd honestly rather see him NOT get nuked. Clearly it causes him more distress that way.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tyebald nods at Fiendish.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dugrant Tech: Ehehe
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: No distress, sorry guys.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trihex Tech: i'm just curious why he only uses the tech channel trying to get banned lol
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: don't nuke him. and change his desc and finger info to "I love Windows"
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: Good one.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tyebald laughs at Fiendish mercilessly.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: No, I wuv windors is better.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: Or better, "Windoze is for idiots."
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: Wow, I guess I can't be bad enough to get banned.  I don't have it in me.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you're just not that important
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trihex Tech: dude use gossip or something if you want that sort of attention
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Swearing on channels isn't going to get you banned, more likely gagged.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Grope Fiendish. he might help you if you are that willing.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Turie runs away from Fiendish in utter terror and horror!
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Hell, tech -h windows
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: mischan
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: Ah well, I'll quit fucking around.  A lot of good people here :)  I just can't deal with the tech side of where this op is going.  Peace out guys and have FUN!!!!!!!!!!!!
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Linux is the wtg if only Linux was not run by arrogant nerds that believed that all nonpaying LInux users were suppoosed to be tech-savy-geeks that read reams of manuals and screeds of source-code to get answers  ... xchan
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I've just had an error from the mushclient mapper, aardmapper.lua line 1305 attempt to index a nil value, when I try to go to a specific room, seems ok otherwise, anyone got any idea what might be causing it?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: More on the previous error, it seems to happen whenever I try to go to a room which shows as 'could not find a path to' in the mapper find results
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: that has already been fixed in the latest development version
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: "so nerr"
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you can either download the latest snapshot from the google code site, or wait for an official update announcement from lasher next month
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Ok, no problem, now I know it's nothing serious like a broken database, I think I'll just live with it, thanks for the reply
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xyliz ponders he there reason(s) that "Yell" is not listed on Channels
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: not really a channel, is it
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: yell isn't a channel. it has no history
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: neither do dtell, ptell, but they're channels.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: hm. fair enough. yell still isn't a channel.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: tell that to other muds without a history option: "you got no channels since there is no history"
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: oh, neither does racetalk
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: what's dtell and ptell?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: defender and raider channels
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Yell is a channel restricted to an area
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: not any more than say is a channel
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: technically, "Say" is a channel restricted to a room
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Also say has tags, is technically a channel, and uses history the same as yell
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: "echo" is a channel restricted to a single player
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: say doesn't use history
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: it says '-h' just like yell does
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: saying '-h' is not the same as using history. it is in fact as different as you can get from using history
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: But i'm saying it does the same thing as yell, but say has tags to be captured.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: a history option on echo may be convenient :)   "but beware, big brother may be watching"
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: suggest (not use -h) to activate the echo history, use echoh ##|filter
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xyliz suggests that instead of "channel -h", "channelh" to activate the history options - discuss the merits of being lazy and discarding this astute suggestion
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Anyone know a good IR transmitter that works off USB?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: Arduino
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Oladon blinks innocently.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Hehe, that seems like overkill for changing the channel of a cable box.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Oladon snickers softly.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Anyone here experienced with LIRC?  Am I going to be screwed using one USB IR reciever to recieve remote control signals, and one serial transmitter to transmit IR signals?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Anybody here use dvorak keyboard layout?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Yes, but iot will take them 5 minutes to answer
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dagnir's been using dvorak for a few years
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: But seriously, was wondering what people's thoughts were on dvorak layout
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: someone forward my statement to her :P
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dugrant Tech: I tried it a few times... never found the time to master it though.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Look at Colemak
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daresia Tech: hmm...on windows 7 i can't scroll the main mush window with my mouse wheel
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakon Tech: it's most likely your mouse drivers, i'm on xp and it's the same for me too.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakon Tech: i have a cheapy GE mouse that has it's own driver i installed to run the extra stuff for the extra buttons it has, if i close that program  i can scroll the main window then
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daresia Tech: interesting...i need to fix this once I get my real final laptop
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, definitely something funky on your end...I just plugged a $3 generic mouse into my laptop and the main window in mush scrolled fine (on W7)
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: It's as Sakon said above - when a mouse installs non-generic drivers that problems crop up
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daresia Tech: how do I hide invmon tags that show up whenever my eq changes? I'm not sure which plugin added it in.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type invmon
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or reload an inventory plugin if you have one
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeilhuitl Tech: hey guys
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hey tzar :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeilhuitl Tech: USB PornStick is a self-executable program within a USB drive that will detect explicit images on almost any type of media.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, that sounds, umm, useful
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeilhuitl Tech: so im talking with a friend, and i said, if i use a my own usb stick with portable apps on it.  it'd totally defeat the pornstick
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeilhuitl Tech: that make sense?
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, usb pornstick isn't all it's cracked up to be
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: portable apps wouldn't really make a difference, though...it's not looking for apps, it's looking for image files with fleshy tones in them
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeilhuitl Tech: nodnod. then again the disccusion with my friend is rendered moot... its not safe to use the work computer to surf porn or personal stuff, due to keylogging or whatever else they might have.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: your work uses keyloggers?
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so does yours, as far as you know }:>
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Heh, since i work at a bowling alley and manager/run the computer systems, they don't :P
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: again, as far as you know...
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the guy running the computer system isn't necessarily the one installing the keylogger
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: This is true, but since i use my own home computer (except for the score board system) i'm 100% positive they don't ;)
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: you ever leave your computer alone at work o.O
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Hell no
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as the discussion is regarding the work computer, you're still not 100% positive they don't
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: I got some, umm, contraversial stuff on it, i wouldn't do it :P
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're only positive that you're not impacted, not that they don't
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: They probably drugged you, then put a keylogged on your pc so they could steal your Aard scripts imo
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, it's easier to do that than it is to go to his website for them ;-)
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeilhuitl Tech: 0h 10
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeilhuitl Tech: oh the joy they will have to sort thru a btard's computer.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeilhuitl Tech: the amount of scat and gore they will have to face. i think they might quit their job instead.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hehe, "Blur" Option Protects You From Seeing Unwanted Images
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: hi anyone uses mush here pls and have zmud knowledge?
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evra Tech: can someone help me make a trigger
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Client?
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: triggers are bad :-(
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evra Tech: Aardwolf's mushcilent
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: What kind of trigger?
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evra Tech: i ust want to hold my portal, enter it then hold my other item and again
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: that would be an alias
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: help alias
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evra Tech: ahh
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evra Tech: of course it is
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evra Tech: sorry
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: lol don't be
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demonspawn Tech: You can do that with a mudside alias, like Farkyss mentioned, but if you want to make one alias that will take an argument and wear that portal, then you'd need to make one client side since the mud can't handle arguments in multicommand aliases yet.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evra Tech: got it, sorry about that sunday's. i put aca then, the holds portal, enters then hold my other item again
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: An alias in MUSHclient, look at this website please. http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=9616   It is for a targetting alias, but covers the setup for making an alias.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evra Tech: thanks!
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Welcome.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nadir Tech: is there a way to make a trigger with selected text, not multiline, with MUSHclient like the way you can create a multiline trigger?  
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I don't understand the question, what are you trying to do?
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nadir Tech: I want to make my computer beep at me when cetain things happen. I can do this manually for the most part but if I select text and right-click there is an option on the context menu to create a multi-line trigger based on that selected text.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nadir Tech: I just wondered if I was missing something that would allow me to do the same only not in multi line.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: for the mapper plugin on the aardwolf client, when using the custom exit feature, can I have custom exits that are like "shop buy 1;open up", for areas such as the first ascent? I mean, will it accept multiple commands?
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: copy the line, go to Game->Configure->Triggers, make a trigger
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you can't do it from the popup menu, just copy the text and then create a new trigger
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nadir Tech: okay thanks.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Tezaal: yes, put ;; between the commands
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: Bast:  is there a way to add multiple spells to your spellup list?
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: got it, thanks bast
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: using your V6 spellup plugin, previously, you could do spellup + blah,blah2,etc.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bast  bsp sadd <spell> <Spell> <spell>
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: put single quotes around spells with multiple words
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: nods, thanks :)
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: Bast, bsp fast does not seem to do anything.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: hmm, you are correct, when did that break? let me look
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Miasmatic rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: has anyone else noticed the plugin freezes after fighting a bunch of mobs?
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Miasmatic shakes his head.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: yeah, just type bsp refresh to get it going again.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: ahh awesome,t hanks
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: no problems with freezing here, if you see a waiting spell on the miniwindow, you can also click on that and it will refresh
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Kurojiryuu: when are you using bsp fast?  It will only cast spells that aren't already on
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: Yeah, I tried it when it had spells queued.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: It's alright though, I just use refresh now instead.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: ahh, then it was probably stuck, it uses the same checks to cast as the rest of the plugin, so if things are queued and aren't being cast, then fast won't work
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: Ah I see.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: How often does it get stuck?
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: not too sure, now and then it occurs.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Is there a command I can use to reload a plugin after it errors?
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Mushclient, that is, sorry
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: are you using my plugins?
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Nope, it's for the mapper plugin, there's a small bug in there that's fixed in the latest development ver but I don't want to risk it while things are running well here :)
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Press control+shift+p, select the plugin you want to reload, then press alt+i.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Thanks, I'm doing that already but that's quicker than using the mouse :)
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Lytebane: Did you type mapper find while in the middle of a runto?
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Nope, mapper find on a room with no found paths...fiendish confirmed it's a known bug and fixed in the latest development release
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: In fact, mapper goto, sorry :)
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I am not talking about that. I mean if you type mapper goto blah and then type mapper goto blah which running. It will cause it to error.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Not had that, but might be the same bug, since mid-runto it'd probably not be able to find a path to it
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you can't use goto in the middle of a goto run, because it has no baseline to calculate the path from
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: that's not exactly a bug
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I know Fiendish. I did it by accident one day.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: No, not really a bug, I just wondered if there's a quick command I can use to reload the plugin without having to go into dialogs and click stuff :)
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: to reload the mapper?
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Yep
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I think there is, actually. hold on
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: type "reload aardmapper"
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: oh. wrong map
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: "reload mapper" that's it
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: reload aardmapper does the ascii map
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: What is IRE.Composer in my cmud protocols list?
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: not related to aardwolf
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Iron Realms something-or-other?  Can I remove it?
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Ok, thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: IRE stands for Iron Realms Entertainment. sure
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Fiendish: That is the Ascii Map.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: "reload mapper" should do the gmcp mapper
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: see the file aard_helper_aliase.xml
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: see the file aard_helper_aliases.xml
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: anyway I gotta run
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Fiendish: I just did it and it was Ascii Map.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I just did it and it's the gmcp map :)
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mapper or aardmapper?
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: other questions -> personal board. later.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: reload mapper is reloading the GMCP mapper.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's what fiendish said :P
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Abelinc: He said reload aardmapper.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: read again, and read further
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Then he corrected himself and said just 'mapper'
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I missed that statement. It happens.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: While I'm asking stuff, has anyone had very rare stalls on the bast spellup plugin? Any ideas what might cause them? I've not had one since remorting so might be related to certain spells
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Mainly seems to happen if I sleep at the same moment as it's trying to cast, but I've had it at other times too
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I fixed the sleep bug in the next release
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Great, thanks :)
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Why is cmud causing xterm colors to appear washed out when I use them on a channel?
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Works fine on echo
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: test
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: They are not on main yet?
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Hmmm, it appears to be related to whether or not I have the channel set to a bright or not-bright color...
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: i mean, aard shouldn't be bandwith-hungry
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: mis
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: we're already at zlib 9
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: mis
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nadir Tech: is there some way to diable a triger group from another trigger without have to access some scriptfile? I wan't to disable a group or groups of truggers when I go to sleep.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have those triggers pay attention to your gmcp position
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or have a plugin that disables and reenables the group as your position changes
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nadir Tech: I don't even now what gmcp is. thanks anyway. I guess I will just have to live with the noise.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: help gmcp
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Nadir, what client are you using?
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gmcp is the absolute best way to know whether you're sleeping or not...
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: or pinch your arm
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nadir Tech: I am using the Aardwolf client.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nadir Tech: MUSHclient that is.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can use a trigger for it, but it's redundant when the client already knows your position
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Ah, alas, I use cmud, and know nothing about MUSH
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: i tried to get into mush and no go lol
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'll want to look at MUSHclient's help on "EnableTriggerGroup"
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nadir Tech: alas I unce new Zmud intimately. RL intervened and when I came back Cmud was the rage.  I got it but to be honest I don't want to "learn" another client, I just want to play.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: scroll down to the Lua example, copy/paste that
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I do not know coding, but I find MUSH to be nice for using basic aliases and triggers.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: If you knew zmud, then cmud will be no problem for you
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: change "groupname" to the name you gave to the group of each of those triggers you wanted to enable/disable
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: There are some differences in the scripting engine, but it's just as easy as zmud was.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nadir Tech: I have already been to the help site and copied/pasted and it sent it to the mud.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: cmud is actually an improvement of zmud allowing a bit more control 
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't want to send it to the MUD, these are client things
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you want to send it to script
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Now if only Zugg would do a major bug cleanup
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: That would be a worthwhile endeavor.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Change the 'send to' to 'script'
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gotta cram in more features instead, starling
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: yea:P if he did I'd go back to using zmud
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there will never be a bug cleanup of zmud, miasmatic :P
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I guess 3.34 is supposedly a bug fix update, but IMHO he needs to do more than that and clean it up extensively from top to bottom.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: i know the mapper could use some work
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nadir Tech: close that's what I was looking for. Thanks Cheezburger
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: MUSHclient with Fiendish and Spartacus's extensive modification has created a nice mapper.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh sure, nevermind that I said it 10 seconds earlier :P
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You sulk.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Miasmatic comforts you. 
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You giggle.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nadir Tech: Thanks to ALL that provided that answer.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Abelinc is having a moment to himself.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, just playing around :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: for those who want to see what all the new colors look like and have the Aardwolf MUSHclient, see http://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/256Xterm
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: using the xterm colors requires a version of the aardwolf mushclient from March 30 or later
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Is there a way in MUSHClient plugins to call a function in a different plugin?
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Look in Bast's plugins.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ross Tech: Anyone know how to put a carriage return into an echo in tf? I briefly poked around the help files but I'm not sure what precisely I'm looking for to find it
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the echo is terminated by a CR
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: each line you want will be a new /echo
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ross Tech: ah, okay, so I'll just do another echo then. Thanks!
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: /echo line one %; /echo line two
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: is there a better spellup script for cmud than davo's
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not likely
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it's call MUSHclient and then use mine ;)
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aside from davos's stuff, browse the script repository in cmud
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: i have looked there and didnt see any thing
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I have to redo mine (accidentally overwrote the backup with an empty file post-reformat) and haven't bothered to yet
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: been busy hammering out a map/speedwalk package and distracting myself with a notes/channels/info package.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: My god, why don't they make the space cadet keyboard anymore?  That thing is cool.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leopardfist Tech: is there a way to do settings where my arrow keys could me mapped to movement? I dont have a number pad
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: What client are you using?
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leopardfist Tech: mmushclient
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Just a min
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leopardfist Tech: I looked at macros but it doesnt list arrows as a posibility
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Arrow keys do command history, as God intended.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leopardfist Tech: I would set comm history to shift-arrow
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: use the num pad for dir
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: he doesn't have a numpad, Akuri
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: read, laptop, no easily accessed numpad.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/function.php?name=Accelerator
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leopardfist Tech: thanks Ill check that out
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Read Anadorr's link, but if you want to test it out, put Accelerator("up","north") into Game->Immediate
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leopardfist Tech: well it works for left and right, but not up and down. The webpage said it would overwrite all other macros assigned to the keys in the mushclient. However it is not overriding the text up and down history setting
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Instead of overriding those macros, use ctrl+wasd
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leopardfist Tech: \its good info though, I can map it somewhere else :)
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leopardfist Tech: now another question.... is there a macro I can make to k any mob in room
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: illegal
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leopardfist Tech: oh ok
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: you'd have to use an AOE or scrape the info off aard using a couple of triggers (at least, will probably be a few more)
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: anyone using Bast's spellup plugin?
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: how do you add a clanskill to the list?
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you can't yet without modifying the script
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: ah okay. thanks!
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: I can add it but it tells me its not learnt =(
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: that's the code you have to change
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: ah I see.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: basically add a special case to the check
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kurojiryuu nods.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: anyone know why a #PSUB in cmud would be almost consistently returning the wrong first five characters of the line?  it's your standard channel tags capture trigger, with #PSUB {} %x1
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: I say "almost consistently" because very occasionally, it'll do the right thing.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: psub was always janky in zmud. maybe zugg never learned.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: seems to work for others, so I was hoping someone might have an idea of some "magic" setting/flag I was missing.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: Fiendish, have you noticed the bug where the spellup plugin gets stuck if you interupt it while it is casting?
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: i don't tend to do that
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: yeah but even if you kill one mob, then while it is firing you target another, it gets stuck
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I have not noticed anything like that
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: oh okay
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: apparently, it's having "ANSI Trigger" set.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: ....which I had previously needed, in order to be able to copy text using #WIN inside the trigger.  switched to using #CAPTURE, to get the new color codes (#WIN would only do the ANSI equivalents).  apparently the ANSI codes throw off the "count", I guess.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: just FYI, for anyone else running into this.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: sheesh, I get distracted by implausible Syfy movies for a few hours and completely miss entire conversations...
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: In MUSHClient, 'Save World Details' is what saves the mapper data?
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: actually, no
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: What does, please.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: though it's not a terrible idea to make that flush everything 
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I'm not sure I understand the reason for the question
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Unexpected loss of power, etc. caused disconnects that lost mapper data. I want to know how to manually save the mapper data.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: there is a backup mechanism
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: Mapper help?
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: see 'mapper help'. there are both manual and automatic backups
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Armenia nods.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: OK, I must be daft, or the mapper help is truncating. I see nothing about backups, manual or automatic. A sepcific command for manual backup would be?
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Scroll up
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: And the command is what you would assume - mapper backup
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I suggest also using "mapper backups on"
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Nope. 'That is not a command'. How do I tell what version of the mapper plugin I have?
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: clearly too old of a version
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/downloads/list has the latest development snapshot. or go to aardwolf.com and get the official April 2011 release
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: How about putting version info in the plugin info someday.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: how about you read AardwolfPackageChanges.txt
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I'm not going to update every plugin version number every time I make a change
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: that got old before I finished thinking about it
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starfinder Tech: Does anyone know anything about Xterm 256 color support? I can't find any information on how/whether-or-not the MUD uses this support.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: it's not working yet, I think
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: experimental
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: it's working with new version of mush
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: try 'xterm'
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starfinder Tech: Well it DOES display in orange, so I think it works, but I gather that the mud simply doesn't utilize it at all? So no point in turning it on?
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: not at the moment afaik
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starfinder Tech: Okay. Thanks for your reflections. I appreciate the input.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: test port boards might hold some info
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starfinder Tech: I'm not advanced enough to even know what that means. lol I just started yesterday.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starfinder Tech: But I hope that they implement some cool colors using Xterm support in the near future. It would be awesome for differentiating different things on my prompt and such.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: nothing wrong with the current colors
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: you can differentiate the hell out of your prompt already
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starfinder Tech: Oh no, didn't mean to imply that. Just...enhancement is alwasys nice.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starfinder Tech: always
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: i'll stick with classic colors, thank you
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starfinder Tech: Sure, of course. To each thier own.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dagnir nods.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: I'm changing all my output to black.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: SRrr . zom
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: iw'y yhid nryyrt?
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: anyone uses the potion quaffer plugin on Bast's site?
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Is there a way to set rooms as noportal in the Aardclient mapper?
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: no
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Okami Tech: can anyone help me with my hunt trigger on mushclient
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: What do you want to do?
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Okami Tech: after i type what creature i want to hunt, i want it to move and then hunt the creature again
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Okami Tech: like say i had to hunt a bug, i would type hunt bug, and then the trigger will move, and then rehunt that bug
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: why don't you download one of the hunt plugins that already exist for mushclient?
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Okami Tech: there are hunt plugins?
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: search www.mushclient.com forums, see the links on help www
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: That would be a much better idea because implementing what you want requires a few different triggers and can be quite complicated
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: wow after my client crashed my Bast plugins are giving me a ton of errors
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: any idea how to fix it? I tried restarting the client a few times already.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: try reinstalling just the plugin
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: alright thanks =D
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: also make sure that there is a mark before the colon as default command separator, that did it for me once
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: this command separator is below game, configure, commands menu
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kurojiryuu nods.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Anyone know how the automated database backup works in the latest mushclient? I've been getting a folder created occasionally called 'Program', and I think it might be the automated backup that's doing it.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I believe so.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knotts Tech: In the MUSH client is there a way to route the newbie channel so it only appears in the communication log?
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Nope not automatically or part of the configuration options anyways....of course it is probably doable, just not without getting into the code itself.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knotts Tech: ok thanks much
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: You can make it so all channels only appear in that log though by turning echo off.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knotts Tech: how do I do that?
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Right click on the communcation log to bring up the menu and then click turn echo off.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knotts Tech: thanks so much!
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Fiendish: I don't think so, I don't write anything to files with the spellup plugins, but maybe saving the state can do that?
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: wrong channel, but I doubt it
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: just tried to install aardmushclient:  Unable to connect to "Aardwolf", code = 10060 (Connection timed out)
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: make sure your computer is plugged into the internet?
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: i LOVE that suggestion with tech support.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: Error occurred during phase: Connecting to world: 208.43.193.234, port 4010
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: hm.. I'm playing Aardwolf now.. so, I think my computer is in fact connected to the internet
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Is it possible you have a firewall that is blocking Mushclient?
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: hm.. perhaps.. I'm currently playing via an ssh connection to an account on another machine :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: lessee if this gannon.au site has a hint for me
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Audreyiv: Press the enter button when on that page and see what happens.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: The connection to Aardwolf is not open?  Attempt to reconnect?  I said yes
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: same results
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Audreyiv: You are not connected to the internet.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the crappy external mccp won't stay loaded unless an active internat connection is present -- the (expletive-deleted) that coded that is accorded only begrudging grattitude (and a perhaps a slow horrible death)
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Xyliz: Be Quiet with that garbage.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: hm.. I have a browser running just fine... where's that coming from? :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: And the browser is running on the machine you are SSHing into?
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xyliz peers at Turie, and ponders "is Turie guilty of that that defective mccp implementation"
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: running the browser directly on the laptop here, where I'm trying to run the mushclient.. the SSH connection is only running mcclient to aard
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: hm... tracert goes as far as my dslrouter, and then dies ... though the browser is still really happy
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: hm... lots of different sites:  Domain Name server is happy, but the timeout occurs at the dslrouter... I wonder why the browser is still so happyl... different port?
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: the aardwolf mushclient package tries to connect to aardwolf on port 4010
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: Exciting... Microsoft Outlook is filtering Microsoft emails to junk email... They designed their junk filter quite well!
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: edit the config to use port 23 instead, maybe
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: cool, they finally did something right
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Open up Aardwolf.mcl in Notepad and find the line   port="4010"    . Change the 4010 to 23 and see what happens.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: or just press Alt+1 to bring up the connection config window
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Forgot about that.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I feel tiny.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: okay.. did the Alt+1 and set to 23... tried to reconnect.. says it connected.. and that's as far as it got.. no connection closed, no request for character name :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: that's a little better.. I am now running the mushclient
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: now I have to figure out how to arrange my screen :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperCow Tech: anyone using CMUD know how to trigger the request quest command to resend comm.quest info via GMCP?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I can only tell you for mushclient, sorry
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperCow Tech: how do you do it in MUSH? maybe that will give me a clue to what I need to enter in my command in CMUD
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: 'sendgmcp request quest'
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: How do I add notes to [?] rooms in the GMCP mapper? They just disapper when I enter them
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: mapper notes?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: Right click a room?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: The room does not exist any more on the mapper
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: Then you can't make a note, probably
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: For example, Aylor is gone from my world map
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aylor isn't a room
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: True, but is there any way to add something to the blank space?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: no, that's ridiculous
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: a blank space is not a room
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: why do you want to add notes to area entrances anyway?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I just don't like the blank space where an area entrance is supposed to be
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: But if it's not doable, I'm completely ok with that too
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: so download the latest development snapshot and turn on the bigmap view
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I like the new bigmap view for continents anyway. not only is it prettier than drawing the connected rooms, but it's actually faster too.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I suppose I wouldn't have added it if I didn't like it
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: How do I turn on bigmap?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: when was the last time you downloaded a new version of the aardwolf mushclient package?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Maybe 3 days ago
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: that should be new enough. do you see something when you type 'bigmap help'?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: The bigmap shows up
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: huh
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: oh. sorry. go here: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/downloads/list
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: and download that
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: it's a newer version than what is on aardwolf.com
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: That's what I downloaded - I would even go svn if I could get off my lazy butt
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: oh
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: then you must have not used the new world file, is that right? did you keep your old world file?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Perhaps - I overwrote everything on accident, but that could have stayed
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: if you do ctrl+shift+p do you see Aardwolf_Bigmap_Graphical by authors Fiendish and Nick Gammon?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Nope - that would be my problem, I guess
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: well I tell you what. go ahead and download the newest download from the link I posted
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: because it does fix a few minor bugs with xterm color handling
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I just added the plugin - I did 'bigmap
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: what do you see with bigmap help?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I did 'bigmap' and it told me bigmap enabled
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: But bigmap help is giving me no joy - still just the bigmap
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: that means you're using the wrong plugin
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: this one is not the one released by bast
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: if it doesn't have my name in the author field, then it's not the right one
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: How do I upgrade MUSH without losing everything?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: define "losing everything"
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: aliases, triggers, etc.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: follow the instructions on the aardwolf.com download page for upgrading. just don't get the download from there.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Gotcha
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Lemme go do this real quick, will be right back
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Ok, I'm on with a vanilla version, and bigmap help shows something
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: good
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: now type 'bigmap on'
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Did that
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: now walk into a continent
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: is it in a different window or same as gmcp mapper?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Wow, looks nice!
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Do you keep it merged or do you unmerge it?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I keep it merged
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Well, thanks a lot for walking me through that
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: oh. also you should type "mapper backups on" if you don't already have automatic backups enabled
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I'll remember to do that once I copy my files over
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Although I think vanilla already enables backups
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I don't remember if I set backups to be on by default
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Well, I'll do it to be safe - thanks again!
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you can type "mapper backups" to check, I think
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Enabled by default
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Every day
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: k
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: it's actually a graduated schedule. one from yesterday. one from a week ago, one from a month ago, one from 3 months ago. approximately
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: assuming you leave mushclient running all the time or run it once a day
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: if you install bast's plugins. just make sure you don't overwrite my bigmap file
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: and please report any problems
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Hmm, I seem to have lost my old spellup plugin
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: probably from Bast's package
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Added Bast's but spellup help doesn't show anything anymore
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: it probably requires something else to be loaded too?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Will try things out
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Not sure what could be the problem because I'm not using the miniwin version
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: really? I like the miniwin version
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I don't like not seeing my spell count
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Adding it bugs MUSH out like crazy, and doesn't configuring it take helluva long time?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: not that long, and I haven't had many problems
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Yup, runtime errors on enable
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you should submit those errors to bast
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: are the errors just things like such and such file isn't loaded yet?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Looks like the two spellups plugins were conflicting - removed the nonworking nonminiwin version and now it works fine
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: ah cool
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Thanks for all your help
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coss Tech: what is the download address for aard mapper
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I do not recommend just downloading the mapper on its own
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: anyone still have their prodigy account?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: how do I nest an alias within an alias for mushclient?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: try Execute("aliasname")
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: "Send to: execute" in the alias detail screen
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: hmm should I send it to world?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: I guess not
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Why do you need to nest aliases?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: send the inner alias wherever you like, but the outer (all of them if you nest more) must be sent to execute
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: because I'm trying to figure out how I can have area sws linked to the automapper
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: but I dont know any scripting language
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Can't help you there, sorry
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: entopee: one good reason is alias for containers... I have my bags named 1.clam, 7570337, ... (legacy from another mud), and then I have alias to get potion from bag and quaff it. That must be sent to execute to resolve the container name
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Huan blushes.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: hmm nothing is working:P Execute ("aliasname") or GetAlias ("aliasname") and so on seem to go straight to the mud without being evaluated even though I'm sending to execute
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: which suggestion are you using?  Execute or Send to execute? you shouldn't do both
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: oh
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: if you want to use Execute("alias"), you should send to script
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: if you Send to Execute, follow Huan's suggestion
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: ok thanks!
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: also, read this, its actually a very good tutorial:  http://www.mushclient.com/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=6030
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: What was that thing for the battle report?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: nevermind, dtrack. I remember
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: I am still not sure what are you trying to do... "link area sws to automapper" is too vague. Both suggestions are for normal aliases... make alias match on STTNG and send portal commands, and then make alias ULTIMA that first sends STTNG and then runs through vidblain (I know ultima was replaced, can't remember better example)
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: well basically it would be awesome if I could get a script that identifies the start of every area (could be manual when I'm in the room) and then writes the speedwalk to an array with the area name as the key, so I can just alias something to call the key and run to the area. rt doesn't exactly find the shortest distance between two points
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: so... you are trying to do something similar to runto command, but with automapper? And without scripting knowledge?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: yes (: which is why I just decided to alias an area name to the room id so I can alias something for mapper goto "id". i.e. an alias within an alias.:P
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: you want a custom runto commands that uses your shorter speedwalk if available or fallback to the game speedwalk if nothing has been configured, is that correct?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: try alias: "STTNG", Send: "mapper goto 1966", Send To: Execute
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: ranrr yea that's something I would be considering as well
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: thanks Huan. I suppose that will do as well
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: That's actually how I implemented it myself (in tt++), so I can fill up with custom speedwalks as I find them.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Miasmatic nods at Ranrr.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: it can be be done in mushclient
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: I've setup a script that will test for known speedwalks adn if it doesn't
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: it will pass the handled destination to aards runto command
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: runto only works from aylor, using mapper can be much shorter if it has good database and can consider tricks like port yourself to aard hotel
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'm rarely in that level of hurry that i don't need to recall first to get where i'm going.. but that being said i never win global quests either :)
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: hm... when my mouse cursor hangs out over my main mushclient window, it occasionally brings up a little thing that says "A Misty Path" (like appears on the mapper window)  even though I haven't been in FT2 for over an hour...
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If I have a string of words and spaces, what's an easy way to loop through the words in lua?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: (I should know this)
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: nvm, got it
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spoke Tech: Is there any MUSH plugin to manage eq-dbase for leveling purposes out there?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: are these 'memory metal' eyeglass frames with the twistable titanium wire inside really that much more durable than regular ones?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: durable is not the right word
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I prefer flimsy and prone to getting out of alignment
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: its the word the 37 year old overly well dressed fat guy at lenscrafters at the mall used
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I've seen lots of them break.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I've BROKEN 2 pairs of my own
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: breaking would be bad. hmnn
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I don't want my glasses to flex and bend
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i guess i'll stick with regular frames then.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: he was probably getting a comission on the higher cost frame.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: The frames themselves are not so bad, but the temptation to twist and bend them overcomes any flexibility they might have had
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spoke Tech: Does anybody know if there is a public plugin for eq-database / leveling eq sorting, for mushclient?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: There is not one yet.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: can anyone tell me what in windows vista would cause my explorer to freeze up or how i can check?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Vista = Horrible OS.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: i know but its all i have to work with :P
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: legaly :P
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sue Tech: i dont know, the only way i can help is to get the move to a real os comment out of the way
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: it wasn't all bad, once you turned all the trashy attempts at 'security' off.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sue Tech: damn. . .  too late
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: i did turn all the "security" off ;P
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: are you using Aero?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: dont think so
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: aero is what drives all the "cool new effects" in Vista/7
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: perhaps not then i turned off a lot of things it thinks that arnt important and toned down the graphics
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: or so "they" tell me
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I used to do that too until I found out that some of that 'unnecessary' stuff was just making sure everything ran smoothly in the background
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: some of it does yes
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: but stuff i have put on there that runs
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: for programs that i dont use at all anymore
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: The thing is that a problem with an OS has many factors
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cide nods.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Did you install anything recently?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: no but i uninstalled a bunch of stuff
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: A badly installed program might have taken some vitals with it
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cide nods.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sue Tech: any errors,  or does it just freeze? 
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: freezes and restarts the process
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: just to time out and do it again
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: When's the last time you rebooted?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: a few mins ago
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sue Tech: there is probably a logfile somewhere that would give you the phrase you need to google, but ive no clue where that might live
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: tried a restart to see if that would help
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: might still keep logs...
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: lets see
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Ever heard of hijackthis?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: a site?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: perhaps it's a locked dll issue?  From what I understand, there's a bug that causes a DLL to not always be freed up in memory so that other apps can use it.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: hijackthis lists ALL running processes
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Google it - there's lots of info about that out there
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: and more
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: nods.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: only ike 20 processes running now that show up on the task m anager
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Hijackthis is the nerdiest, and from my experience, most effective malware/virus/debugging tool
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Task manager doesn't show everything
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: i see
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: perhaps i shoudl look into it then
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Cheezburger is correct, Hijackthis can be your friend.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: There's also ComboFix, but it's a bad idea to run that without lots of knowledge of what you're doing
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: or your enemy if you mess it up
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Not always your friend - just a very good tool
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Cheeze don't tell them that.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Hijackthis is powerful, but at the cost of ease-of-use.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: well it will at least tell me whats running
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: If it lists a false positive, and you go after it, you're pretty much screwed
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cide nods.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: so not something for me to use :P
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: yes it can be an enemy.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: You can use it, just be careful
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: You may need to google the process to see what it does.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: You can use it to give your computer an enema
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cide snickers softly.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: i normally google things before i stop them
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: because some things are useful like you said before to make things run smoother but do nothing so to speak
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Think of it as scrub brushing your computer's colon :P
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: im on a laptop also if that makes a differnce :P
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: so it gets hot very often
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: That actually could affect it
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Very easily, in fact.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cide nods.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: i had it shut off for two days
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: then started it up and problems start
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Laptops aren't the most durable computers. Heat is their enemy
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: what problem you having Cide?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cide is agreeing with that Cheezburger person again...
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Many time a laptop is freezing/unresponsive/ shuts off, it's due to overheating.  Should look into that issue LONG before you start playing with processes you're unsure of
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: says explorer keeps freezing up on windows vista 
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Entopee is agreeing with that Xaxz person again...
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: it sits on a cooling pad and like i said hasnt been running for longer than a few mins the fan works and stuff :P
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: on startup or something else?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Heh, have you tried just killing explorer.exe and then clicking "file -> new" and typing "explorer.exe"?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: It's probably a software issue - get a virus check
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: no i havent
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: load linux
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Is that an HP laptop?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: it killed itself and restarts :P
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: its a toshiba
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: If you can get ahold of a version of EVEREST (ahem, by paying for it), it's one very good way to see current internal temps of your computer.  If they are too hot, that's your issue.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cide sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Vista has a decent desktop gadget for CPU monitoring
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: It's that or a virus
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: is the leftside of keyboard very hot?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: As well as temperatures
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: malware*
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: its pretty cool compaired to how it is
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: normally i mean
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Your problem could also be that you have vista installed.  Fix that issue.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cide is agreeing with that Xaxz person again...
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Stupid question, did you vac out the vents?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: no...
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Try just killing it manually and starting it as a new process, if it's crashing it might be dumping the fragged data, if you do it manually it won't dump it.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: "downgrade" to xp or buy 7.  Either is a huge improvement
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: but it blows out hot air though
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: fan runs and all that goodness
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I would highly suggest vacumn out the vents.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: "Fan running" != "fan working properly"
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: thats true
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: my sisters toshiba had a huge problem with keeping cool
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Dust can get anywhere.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: and it would just shut itself down because it got so hot
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I doubt it's a heat problem - only thing he said is that "laptop gets hot sometimes" - truth is, all laptops do
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Not mine :P
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: It's getting hot somewhere
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: <-- mineral oil laptop :P
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Never mind
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: laptops from my understanding arnt supposed to be ran 24/7
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Hehe :P
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Unless you make a mineral oil laptop :P I've never had problems with heat.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: and it looks awesome :P
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cide snickers softly.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Mine run 24/7, just keep the vents clean and suck the dust out.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: it can still be getting hot/overheating, Saatai
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if dust collects inside a compiter, especially the pwrsupply near the fan, and if during humid weather the dust becomes slightly conductive, slight current leakage may cause symptoms: reboot is common usually on vibration, modem renegotion may happen from sound vibration from a #beep, (freeze computer is unusual, may be unrelated)
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: moisture in the air alone can cause the fan to slow down and gain heat.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: true
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: dust blocks air-flow slightly and may act as an insulator, dust slows fown and wears out fans resulting in noisy fans, dust plus humidity may cause slight current leakages that add up
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: folk with pet birds flying around usually require to run a dust collector air-purifier in the room where the computer is used
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if the compuer screen is regularly coated with dust, then dust is collecting inside the computer
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: in dusty locations, the preferable computers are those that are sealed and do not require fans to move air around for cooling -- no air movement == no dust collection from the filthy air
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: was shocked to find the most common brand of laptop of people at the Java conference I just returned from was.......
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: HP
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: nope
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: ByteSpeed?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: who?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: alienware
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: i only saw one alienware there
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Dell?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: the most common by a clear mile (was >50% of people) was Apple
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Damnit, what's this world coming to. Apple sucks. (Least my stocks went up :P)
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: were they company-issued or personal?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: by the looks, mostly personal
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: and i can understand the logic
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: bah, some rich folk prefer "less hassle with apple"
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Where was that Java conf at?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: London
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Ahh
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Silly Limey's :P
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: Limeys?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: WTH?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: large-screened, high spec laptops that ship with linux
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is the fact that most are untechie.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: there were a fair cross-section
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Lol, that's what my family always calls our family up in England.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: you had the modern, iffeminate mac users highly preened and probably bent
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: you had the rich self-made folks who can now write books or retire
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: the young geeks who look gawky and weird despite being in the late 20s
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: and the scruffy fat rockers who just like tech
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Farkyss coughs loudly.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Oh, ok. I thought you meant Apple comp's with iOS. Apple products are great, their software is trash (IMO)
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: there were a lot of Adobe and Ipad folks floating around because of Flex
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: i don't see me even wanting to try and write for iCock until the lawsuits sort themselves out and they release a free version of flex
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xyliz conjectures: in England, there pricing between apple and extra-priced pc may not be so great a difference - also getting pc spare parts may be more trouble and expensive due to lack of competition
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: don't suppose anyone remembers an old game from the 80s called "Spindizzy"?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: your conjecture is incorrect, xyliz
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: what's nearer the mark is that most delegates there have a lot of money
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: "less hassle with apple" - an advertising slogan
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: it might even be true
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: nothing ever "just works" in the computing industry, unless you're referring to tech support.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: well, when i report back what i've learnt tomorrow at work, i can say "unsecured wifi isn't as popular as it used to be"
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: perhaps you heard something on the unsecured wifi grapeline
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: i might have to install linux in a vm soon and start learning it
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: baby steps: Cygwin
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: nope
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gonf snickers softly.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Ubuntu!
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: nope
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Slackware :)
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: i think ubuntu is overrated lol imho
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: probably debian
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It has a Windows/Apple friendly setup.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: centos (redhat) if you want to get a feel for a commercial distribution
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: first need to find some hard drive space from somewhere
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: in the end though, doesn't really matter which distro you learn with
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: use centos at work. it's not very pretty
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: nogs, but redhat provides support, so lots of business use it
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: i use fedora mostly but its kinda buggy 
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: well, not for centos, but you know what I mean
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: nogs, i have centos somewhere also
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: CentOS isn't bad
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: Not my distro of choice, but not bad
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: it'll be for learning cycleclips rather than nix tho
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: Nothing like Ubuntu... *twitch*
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: I've heard good things about Linux Mint - it's got ports of Ubuntu and Debian
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: which is a good reason for avoiding it
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: gui is overrated with linux it runs best with nongui installs and applications 
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: nogs, and much as i like pretty stuff, what i really need something that is utterly bulletproof, because i won't know how to fix it
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: i learned off an old box so if i had to rebuild not a big deal
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: hence the vm
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: this being the future, and all
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: Though I understand why the purists like to sling mud at it, Ubuntu does have a lot of support for helping newbies get started.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: it's better than they didn't
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pedwiddle is agreeing with that Maskull person again...
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: being snobbist about whom you want using something isn't a bad thing
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: look how dumbed down pc games have become with the advent of consoels
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: consoles*
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: ...unless you want more people to use it.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: It's a different set of priorities. You should go with the option that fits best with your own. That doesn't mean the other option may not be a good fit for someone else though.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: i'm kinda hoping that reprobates all move to ipad and similar and leave proper pc's to us again
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: sneaky suspicion that might be wishful thinking though
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: i think that pc's really arent for gaming to begin with sure you can play them on a pc but a pc is really much more than a silly console 
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: that's horribly untrue, akuri
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: it's just proper pc games stopped being developed after 2006ish
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what happened in 2007 in pc games that they were no longer "proper pc games"
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: they became console ports?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: wasn't something that happened overnight, but games started being developed "cross platform"
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: nogs
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: transformers war for cybertron?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: which meant the only titles we got were asinine console ports
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Probably also killed by the same thing which killed the amiga gaming scene, too much copying
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Farkyss: That is true. Duke Nukem is cross platform?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Just the same cycle that has been going on for years.. we'll get good titles for PC again after the ps3/xbox craze dies a little
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: well, i'm hoping the indy market that is developing from the removal of the development houses tier will bring gaming back to pc's
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: sorta turning things on it's head and taking us back to the early 80s
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: that and it gets tireing and expensive having to upgrade every time a new game comes out
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: My local games shop doesn't even do pc stuff anymore, last title I wanted I had to buy online
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: joe bloggs in his room coding a game and releasing it on steam/whatever
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: when somebody says "indie" or "indy", that is ambiguous, even if the indie or indy is located in india (or indianapolis)
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: context is all important
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: YTV in Canada features a comedy-tvshow "the trouble with being indie"
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: must be nice for them
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the Indy-500 is race cars
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: "Inde" is like more appropriate for "independent"
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: perhaps incompetent "independent" immigrants  may be called "inDP"   (evil grin at joke from the middle last century before the pc folk ruined humor)
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: i was amused to discover the origins of the phrase "to be sussed out"
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: not sure what that slang "sussed" indicates
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sus_law, http://dictionary.reverso.net/english-definition/sus%20laws
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: "suscitate" (verb) to rouse, to excite 
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: lovely
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: brits travelling to america should be told to avoid using the phrase "i'm stepping outside to smoke a fag"
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: yanks travelling to the uk should be told to avoid using the word 'fanny'
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: brits should just avoid coming to america period
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: (actually, yanks travelling to the uk should be advised not to)
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: damn
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: did you mean ' shold' ?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: Hooray for universal dislike... *eyeroll*
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rejbear Tech: so does that mean that smoking a fag is queer?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: no, fag means cigarette
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Farkyss nods at Veck.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: no cigarette means cigarette, fag means a pile of sticks, or sometimes an effeminate man like elton john
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: boot = trunk lori=tech lift=elevator
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: lori=taxi
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: fag also is slang for cigarette
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: especially if you're common and from the south-east
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: what do you call the split level buses?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: buses?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: not sure, im in florida
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: or double-deckers
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: how far down to do you have to dig to get swampwater?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: faggot is a bundle of iron bars, esp a box formed by four pieces of wrought iron and filled with scrap to be forged into wrought iron
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: "fag" comes from "faggot", and the Brits used to throw "fags" on the burning faggots, and the "fag" 'd soon be "smoking" before the "fags" were burned to a crisp -- historical british humor that
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: i do like the term wanker tho and bollucks
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: xyliz, did you know jack ketch victims were often burned with the gallows after they were hung, like a scaffold burial?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: not appropriate terminology for this channel, veck
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: and "spotted dick"
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: oh ok
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: didnt think it was that bad
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Lets move on. This is for tech information or help.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: considered swear words to all intents and purposes
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: yes, let's move on.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Is there a quick fix I can do to sort out the automated mapper backup in mushclient, or a way to disable the backup that persists across sessions? It keeps creating a folder called 'Programs' which confuses windows
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Lytebane: tyep mapper backups off
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: it shouldn't be creating any programs folder.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I did that yesterday, but it just did a backup again, so I assume it doesn't pwersist across sessions
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: now look what you've done, you've roused old man Fiendish from his slumber
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: mapper backups off SHOULD persist across sessions. hold on.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Fiendish is Old Woman Fiendish.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I think it might be the line which does 'zip', might need to put some escaped quotes round the folder name?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: turie, i heard old fishwives smell of tuna.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: don't be silly, he can code
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: that's possible, Lytebane. let me look into it. if you have suggestions for code changes that will help in my testing please submit them to me
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: women coders might explain how MS operates, come to think of it...
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: dokkar i heard that sarah palin was born a woman
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: that could be construed as genderist
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Fiendish is actually old man fiendish.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: Construed? No need to construe anything. It's pretty blatant.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I did find a Files folder in the MUSHclient main folder that has the folders Fiendish and MUD in it.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I have deleted those for two days in a row now.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: what?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: that's bizarre
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: since when?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Ok, I'll do that in future, thanks :) I actually assumed it would have been spotted already and fixed in the next version, so just thought I could hack in some quotes to fix that line until then
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fiendish sighs.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: please never assume that a problem has been reported by someone else
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: if it's not on this list: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/issues/list
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: then it hasn't been reported
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Ok, I didn't know about that one, I'll add that too my bookmarks, thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: lytebane, what windows are you using?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: real wood or pvc?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Win XP
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I just looked in my mushclient folder and there's a 'Files' folder in there, like Turie reported, looks like it's splitting 'Program Files' due to a lack of quotes
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: that's interesting. please tell me what version you're using. check AardwolfPackageChanges.txt
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: 397
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: ok
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Actually, looking at the script I think it's more likely line 2214, the one which creates the db_backups folder
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: 2225 for me, but ok
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I'm going through and inserting quotation marks where I think appropriate
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i wish people like fiendish edited wikipedia
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude drops everything and trots drooling after Fiendish.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: If it would help, I can try commenting that line out and see if the folder reappears over the next few days
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: a lot of my friends do edit wikipedia. actually one of my good friends is on the board of the wikimedia foundation
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: i'm editing both os.execute lines
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: if that doesn't work, Fiendish, perhaps Progra~1 will.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: i'm not willing to hard code a particular folder name
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: Anyone use the PotionQuaffer plugin from Bast's site?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modi Tech: bots?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: well, try checking an online map for more clues!
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: mis
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I guess quite a few people don't put mush under program files, which might explain why I'm the first to notice it, and maybe later versions of windows don't scream about having a folder called 'Program'. I get a warning from windows at boot telling me the folder's there again which is why I noticed it.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: the truth is I don't actually run windows
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: most of my testing is just in WINE, and it works fine for me
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I rely on user reports for problems a lot of the time
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: wine won't run dos programs for me
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: this isn't a dos program
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: it says it wants 1 mb of memory
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I only use windows due to problems with wine and old nvidia cards on recent linux kernels...everything I do other than mush is on linux...plus I've got an ancient pc and that extra layer of using wine makes it a bit too slow
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: well my next development snapshot will have this bug fixed
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: thanks for the heads up. your suggestion about the cause was right.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Ok, glad to be of help, my apologies for not following the right procedure, I'll know better in future :)
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryu Tech: How do you take a screenshot on your laptop?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ryu, that just... sounded wrong
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: depends on the type of laptop
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: fn+home?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryu Tech: HP
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryu Tech: "fn" ?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: function
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: by the way, the other day , someone told me there was a way to find a square root using arithmaetic, instead of a calculator
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: anyone know if thats true?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: There are a number of ways.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: it's true if you're willing to receive an approximate result
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Certainly is, can't remember it off-hand though, I'd have to check my maths books, I think it involves calculus
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ah no i'd probably want at least 6 decimal places
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Oladon . o O ( Or willing to continue infinitely... )
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: hmm... if you can break it down to it's prime factorization it's quite simple
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: lytebane hmn, i should learn calculus instead
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dokkar . o O ( this is the math that never ends... )
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: velian i can do factor trees, but how does this help?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: let Ai = the set of your factors.  if a1=a2 you have part of your answer, 2*2 you can pull out a 2, and coampare a1 to all other entries
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: velian, speak english?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: http://www.codemaestro.com/reviews/9
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: it's math...
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: Okay. translate to english?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: or google "Quake 3 inverse square root"
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: let's say you want the sqrt of 56, 2*2*2*7
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: let a1=2, a2=2, a3=2, a4=7
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: Ok. i want the square root of 56 then.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: 2 sqrt 14
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: if a1=a2 then delete a1 and a2 from the array
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: set sqrt = a1
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: um?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: then compare the other entries and multiply out...
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: array?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: I think Newton's method can be used.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: are you programming this or is this for math work  on paper/pen?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: paper and pen?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: oh i assumed you were coding this
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: or pencil with eraser preferrably
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: nooo
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude cringes in terror!
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: ok so take an arbitrary number.  it's Prime Factorization.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Is this for homework?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton's_method#Square_root_of_a_number
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: starling no, but i'm glad you're here, do a curse -h vampire
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: say it's 2^4 3^3 4^2.  ALL PAIRS can be pulled out, outside the radical
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: so your sqrt of that would be 2^2*3^2*4*sqrt(3)
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: velian but for that, i'd still need to know the sqrt of 3?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: a pair in the radical is a single outside the radical
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: radical?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: ...
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: sqrt symbol = radical
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ok.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: so what you're saying is... that if i have a  radical with a 1 inside the box
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: I don't know how to 'decimal approximate' using mathematics for sqrt's without calculus, which i assume you don't know...
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: 56 = (2^2)*14
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ok. let's safely assume that.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: so. basically i need to either be reliant on calculators, or take a calculus course?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Velian shrugs helplessly.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: will calc 1 teach me all i'd need to understand you?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: i'm sure there are other ways.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: or do i need like a dif eq?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: the way i know it you need series approximations which would be calc 2 or 3
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: series... approximations. ok
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: ask the teacher who told you that you could do it with arithmetic.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: it wasn't a teacher.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: i don't doubt there is a way, just not privy to it.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: then ask yer teachers, some of them might know.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i don't have a calc teacher.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: anyways. thanks.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: all math teachers highschool up go through some high level mathematics. ask any of them if they know a non-calculus way... or google it
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: The key phrases which I recall are taylor polynomials and series...calculus basically...I hated calculus so I'm switching my degree studies, probably to science
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: what degree were you
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Started doing a maths degree, completed the first couple of courses (correspondance courses with Open University in the UK) but the 2nd course exam was such a struggle I think I've reached the limit of what I can do with maths, and the main aim is to become employable again so science makes more sense
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: after calculus, it's a TOTALLY different thing
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: the actual "math" portion is simpler, it's the logical analysis that becomes hellish
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: or fun... if you're like me.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Ahem, as Maskull suggested, if you're really good at long division, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton's_method#Square_root_of_a_number will work very well btw..
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: After Calculus, it is all mathematical theory.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: well in the schooling, it's not so much theory and more understanding the reason behind the math.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: Yeah, that requires a little big of calculus, but it's pretty straightforward and will do decimal approximation.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: xaxz what about the weird f symbol on that page
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: "little bit" even
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: maskull little big sounds simpler
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: You need calculus to develop that equation... the equation is right there.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: i wrote programs on my ti calculator to solve most stuff for math up to trig
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: easy way to pass a test
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I really enjoyed most of it, just the second calculus part that made my brain melt. I particularly enjoyed finding out all the workings behind things they just teach you in school without explaining properly, made a lot of things more meaningful
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: you was allowed a calculator in school?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: i will never forget my senior math instructor.  He said if he saw a calculator he would destroy it... he wasn't joking
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: forced me to learn to analyze math problems without a "crutch" which has been super helpful for me.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: calculators are mandatory now
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: not if you teacher says they aren't
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: velian they're mandantory even if the teachers says they're not
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: teachers aren't mandated to allow calculators, only to teach the material
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: ... you wanna take my mathematics education courses for me?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: velian, no, =) do you wanna say if you are in the same country as me?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: cause my college professors say otherwise.  at least US policy ;)
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: velian well, here a board of regents dictates policy, not a professer
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: A^2 = (X+y)^2 = X^2 + 2Xy + y^2  ,  y = (A^2 - X^2 - y^2)/2X ,  discard y^2/2X when small and use y = (A^2 - X^2)/2X to obtain an approximate y and a new (X+y) approximation to A
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: meh, if you structure any course too much you don't leave room for varied learning/teaching styles.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: velian i don't think anyone desires varied styles. they let the teachers come up with their own syllabus
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: ahh that is familiar xyliz.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ok so A = the square root?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Calculators were allowed in school here the year after I left (about 25 years ago)...not sure if I was lucky or unlucky :)
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: that's silly, create your own syllabus but students are required a handicap in your course?  *shrug*
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: well, if they werent required, financial aid couldnt be used to buy them at the bookstore
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: then i'd set up my syllabus in a way that a calculator wouldn't be helpful! (well most calculators)
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: so maybe its more related to finances than to learning
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: A is the theoeetical Answer, X is the approximate answer near A
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: its a pain not to use one, remebering all the different formulas is just to much
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: in real life if your doing anything in the math field your not going to be required not use a computer or calculator
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: veck, i'm not saying you actually would use it in the course, just that they're a requirement
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: its like if your english teacher required you to obtain a thesaurus, but never had you use it in class... it'd be a requirement
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: most math professors laugh at the use of a calculator.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: college professors (for higher level math at least)
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: Velian, my geometry teacher had us use them 1 day out of the entire year.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: 'today we're going to learn how to use a calculator, and then tomorrow we're going to watch a pool movie with richard dreyfus that shows applied geometry, and then next week is summer vacation'
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: A is the theoretical Answer, X is the approximate answer near A,  y is the improvement to the approximate answer, each X+y (obtained recalculating y) becomes the new X approximation, and so on
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: calculators are faster these days than pencil and paper
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: xyliz, and they save trees
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: IMO, you should be able to figure out how to do something without a calculator so that you can generalize the concepts, but that doesn't mean you need to spend the time to do everything out long-hand when you don't need to.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: oladon, can i have it when you're done?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vagus Tech: can anyone tell me why mapper goto never returns a match, even when I know I've been to the room I enter?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You mean mapper find?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: mapper goto goes to a specific number.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: mapper goto goes to a specific room number.*
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vagus Tech: oh is it a room number
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: It does say that in mapper help
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vagus Tech: ty
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartanean Tech: I have a question about alias's... I would like to creat an alias where I can enter an item after it, for instance... alias ide cast identify <variable>.... and when I use it I would  ide mace or whatever I wanna identify and it would run it. Is there a variable ability to do that?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: No variable needed - in fact, you could do it mud-side
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: alias ide c identify
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Whatever comes after ide will be put after c identify
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: How would you deal with worn items?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: you can't, help identify, only the command works on worn items.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Whio n
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: mis
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartanean Tech: yeah you cant do the worn thing with the spell
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartanean Tech: thanks for the help :), are there variable we can use though? another good alias Ive used in past would need on..... like alias bag put <variable> satchel
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: depends on the client you are using.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartanean Tech: oh ok, so it would be a client alias rather than a mud alias... I see, Ill look into it on mushclient
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: mud aliases can have text after it, client aliases for MUSH cannot
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: I mis hit some combination of keys in zmud and now my numpad macros aren't working.  the num lock isn't the problem, and its just the numbers 1-9.  and hitting 4 and 6 move the cursor left and right instead of firing my macros or typing the numbers... suggestions?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: restart your client?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: check your system folder settings
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: tried restarting
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: which version
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarquil Tech: toggle numpad back on?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: am i looking for a specific setting?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: yep, macros in the Keypad and KeypadDiag subclasses.  If you don't have any, and restarting the session doesn't fix, your mishitting the keys probably deleted them and the inherited stuff probably isn't getting reloaded.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Kurojiryuu, what do you mean when you said "mud aliases can have text after it, client aliases for MUSH cannot?"
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: also check to make sure they're not disabled, too.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: mud alias - ide as c 'identify' can be used ide <item>, but a mud alias cannot have any text after ide, or the alias will not fire.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: erm, of course it can...
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: aliases would be useless if they couldn't :P
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: really? on Mush it doesn't work that way
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: well whats weird is my "0" macro works, but not 1-9
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Sure they can, if you mean MUSH aliases cannot... you just have to put in a wildcard into the match text
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Simple MUSH wildcard is just *
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: infact all numpad macros work except 1-9
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: ah, yeah, you need to add a wildcard, I meant that if you do the exact same alias
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: like both are just ide as c 'identify'
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Well, it's just a different code so different syntax
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: MUD-side simply has the wildcard coded silently
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kurojiryuu nods.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartanean Tech: ok, I created an alias in my mushclient, named bag, and the command to enter was: put %1 satchel. It doesnt work. I tried bag cap and it said that is not a command. I also tried put * satchel.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: The match text ("name") is what you type in... what do you want to happen?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: What should the alias do, that is?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartanean Tech: I wanna type bag <item> and what ever the item I type is it puts it in my satchel.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: For the alias "name" put    bag *     In the body put:      put %1 satchel
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartanean Tech: ok 
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartanean Tech: that worked :) thanks guys and gals
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: is there a way to compress a program more than zipping it?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: 7z
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: gunzip
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: the differenc will not be significant
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Not for an executable, no
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: On old systems, you could fool it by zipping a folder, putting that in a folder and zipping that folder, but i don't think that works anymore
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: so to solve my problem i should just get a bigger flash drive? :P
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Yes
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: i dont think that works now
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Yes.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Yup
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Or use something like dropbox or ssh to move it to the other computer
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: well i want to eventually put it back on the same computer flash drive seemed the easist way
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Dropbox sync's across multiple computers
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: ssh "get" is just as simple as "put"
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: scp via ssh just makes a copy on the remote machine too
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: any advice on fixing a dead key on my laptop keyboard?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: cardio pulmonary ressucitation?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: 'r' key is just about shot, registers less than half the time unless I hit it hard
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: standard run of the mill keyboard?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: try cleaning under the key?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Dell laptop keyboard, 8 years old or so
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Already cleaned out all the junk
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: invert it upside down on a flat surface and slam it a few times
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: might want to put a small piece of folded paper on the small little part in the middle that registers a keypress
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: if that doesn't work, it might pay to take it apart and clean it
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: The same way you slam your mom?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: starling, no personal attacks please
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Starling was caught! Run! Channel police monitor VampireDude is after you next!
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Honestly, I just need to replace the keyboard, but I'm broke and will be for a while :(
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: they're about $20
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: starling i have a spare keyboard
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: if you don't mind coming to pick it up, you can have it.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Like I said, I'm broke. :P
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: maybe find some ridesharing or craigslisting types passing through the area
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: and headed to yours
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: no smoking cigs or drinking for you!
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: and it'll all work out
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: you could maybe let them couch surf for a night, rather than pay them cash
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Alas, Farkyss.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: you do... own a couch righ?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude pushes the Crusty yellow couch towards Starling.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: alas what?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Alas, no drinking.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: oh. i have him on ignore still oops
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: might be so, but i've been an economy kick for 10 months ;-)
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: which is why I find people struggling in the current economic climate somewhat amusing
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: 0h 10
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Job is lined up, just taking forever to start.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: oh that reminds me. i was going to check out jobkabob.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: Walmart are making you wait?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Nah.  Well-logging company.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: they log wells?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: do they get to use scintillating crystals?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Gas and oil wells, yep.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: there's one. there's another one. there's another one
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: at least oil/gas is a safe industry for a couple hundred years
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: They run instruments down the well bore to determine the rock lithology and gas/oil content, if any
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: it's about the only industry that -is- going to be safe, except maybe food in the long term
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It will be safe as long as the environmental activists don't kill it off with their lies and propaganda.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: they won't
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: starling... what if you end up poisoning the land with salt or sulfur runoffs
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: oh. environmental activists. 
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ok.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: vd, just make sure it's in a big population concentration and you kill two birds with one stone
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Possibly many more
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: how come when i try to make qemu load my own hard disk, it doesnt do anything? no error no nothing?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude sighs.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i guess i should get vmware instead
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ah i found it
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: anyone know if it's possible to edit a windows registry from inside of linux?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: there is no magic to the registry, if you know how the data is setup and you have permissions you can edit from anywhere.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: anaristos. um i dont know how the data is set up. i have hardware access and linux root
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: so i think i have the permissions i'd need
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Hmm, I ended up pulling the 'r' key off again and using a pencil eraser to clean the contact.  Seems to have helped.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: starling awesome! pencils are not obsolete!
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: *Yay!*  Go Starling!!!  VampireDude cheers her on.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Mechanical pencils, at any rate.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: Pulling it off was probably a bad idea O.o
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: armenia, can i quote you on that in my finger notes?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Nah, Armenia.  It's easy to remove and reinstall the keys on this thing.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: Laptop?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Nod
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: Oh, those keys wear out fast
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: These have lasted 8 years
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Got the computer in 2003, still runs great
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: Maybe I just buy shit laptops
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: when both the "r" and the "g" go, Starling may be typing the name as "Stalin" -- coincidence, or an indication of leanings
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: OH my
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Starling is agreeing with that Xyliz person again...
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Perhaps your friend enjoys imagining 65 year old men in underwear on the other side of his conversations
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Mis
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: Why doesn't my skill/spell show up in the dtrack thingy? I made it track backstab. Could it be the skill?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: any idea how somebody from yemen/pakistan or arabia as they say, was able to ring my chordless telephone disconnected from my ethernet, who's phone line is disconnected from my wireless internet connection, using a wired router, at the same time as they rang my pc speaker's telephone signal?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: my wireless usb cable here has a range of about 4-6 feet, so i sort of ruled that out
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: go figure hey :, nothing's up
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: that sounds like you're off your meds
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: sound it how you want, invader, how it is is how it is
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: let me get this straight - someone called you on the phone that's disconnected from the network?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: somebody rang my pc phone at the same time as a phone connected to a phone line rang
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: and both stopped ringing when i hung up the pc phone prompt
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: they shouldn't have any connection to eachother
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: this is proof we live in the matrix
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: they're still connected to the same phoneline, right?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: nope, my internet connection's independent and wireless
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i hear this happens if people are tapping your phone line, and your pc internet connection is linked to phone line
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: my router has no antena on it
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: well, unless i'm missing something it's either: a) magic b) off the meds
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: the phone shouldn't have rang but did
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Necroshine was "dreaming" and "imagined" the phonecall
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: magic or something similar to that defcon video, and the phone lines in israel/palestine
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: sure, use your superior dna reasoning abilities to debunk the observations of the human carnival experiment
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: classic retort to shabby design backup materials
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: agent ashkelon and argyle publishing inc.  i think this game's onto something
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: dreams that are supervivid are possible and initially indistinguishable from rl - retrospection may reveal hint(s), that the dream was a dream and not rl, when "impossible events" in the dream are noticed
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Maskull tries to remember if Xyliz is quoting Inception.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: until then, "i did see a ufo with green men, i did, i did"
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: i have the ability to lucid dream at will, dream while not sleeping, be fully aware out of any trance, mix awareness and dream, consider superstition, religious materials, fiction and fact, reality and news, history and assumption on a scale of 1 to 1, and remain sane at the same time as being crazy
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: then i have the ability to remember what i imagined, what i dreamed, what i thought, what i think i thought, what i remember, what i should remember, what is and isn't, and what filters are in place and should be in place and shouldn't be in place, all at the same tiem
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: and that what i mentione was a real occurrence in this real world
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: coincidences are able to "throw some into a loop"
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: so if you have no conclusive answers or assumptions you should probably shut the fellatio up or else invent some logical device based upon a creative anomaly
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: and enjoy that camera in your ex box and stuff like that, food for thought or the absence thereof
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: "Twilight Zone", the "Outer Limits", the "Gallery", "Night Stalker", ... 
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: searching for answers to what made them happen and eliminating ignorance is one way to deal with the unknown
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: i.e., back to the channel topic
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Aardwolf What if....Necroshine and Xyliz would ever have an offspring.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if Necroshine were 100% coherent on channels, and not in turmoil mentally, and did not use sexpervert cussing in conversation, then perhaps Xyliz may attempt to analyse a "portant" coincidence - but Necroshine is yet a few decades from reaching maturity
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: of course, you better come eugenics me cause you're so perfect
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: sexpervert cussing , you mean like the humour they display on my television and the crowd laughs?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: maybe what i need is a button that makes the sound of a laughing audience
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Necroshine, that "eugenics me" was not a mature comment
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: historically applicable though, i have a morbid sense of humour remember, if i have a sense of humour at all, which i probably don't
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: using a sexpervert cuss word that some leering chessplayers use to describe the "Fegatello" or "Fried Liver Attack", tsk tsk
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: switch to Debate
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demonspawn Tech: How do I turn off all triggers in tintin++?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: thats a good question actuall
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Starling peers around herself intently.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WinkleWinkle glows with a strange light as he forms a jump point and leaps in!
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: someone using mush help me test something?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: testing
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: testing
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: Testing
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: Testing Failed!
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: Testing colours =D
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: yea i figured as much
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn . o O ( someone should write a mush plugin with a color picker that'll autogenerate the code and append it to end of command line )
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: what mud client is very similar to zmud?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: cmud?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: is it possible to get xterm colors in tt++ on urxvt?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ikari Tech: I just updated to the newest mushclient. How do I get my helpfiles to not show up in a window again?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: that's not a very well formed question
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: what helpfiles? what window?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: turn off the help plugin
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ikari Tech: ahh, that was it. Thanks Abelinc.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: the help plugin is not included in the aardwolf mushclient package. are you using just basic mush?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although I don't see that in my list of plugins loaded in the r342 snapshot (old now)
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: it's never been included
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but basic mush wouldn't have it either, since it's an aard-specific plugin, so must be some hybrid
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: just wondering how he "updated"
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: client package snapshot r449 is now online
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: mapper db backups might actually work for people other than me now. :\
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: I was enjoying the extra folders in my mush dir that started showing up a few days ago :p
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: get the latest snapshot and let me know if that's fixed, Gonf. 
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: cool, I'll check it out tonight
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I just learned about that issue yesterday, and the timing was rather inconvenient as I've been on airplanes all day
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: luckily (groan) my connection from Reno has been delayed
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: hey the reassuring message from the backup sufficed for me :)
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: well, on the very small plus side, if your path doesn't have any spaces in it then it would have worked before too :)
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: but I suspect most other people actually have spaces in some folder, like, oh, Program Files
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why would you want your programs to be in program files folder? }:>
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I dunno, man. My path is /home/avi/Documents/aardwolfclientpackage/MUSHclient
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: at first I thought it was a windows problem, until I realized that my path has no spaces
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, not /Users/avi?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: guessing he's on Ubuntu
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You snicker softly.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: bash: cd: /Users: No such file or directory
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: /home isn't really a ubuntu original :P
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: nods, but ubuntu gives you silly folders like Downloads, Documents, etc under your home
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: yeah but the screenshot on https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/ makes it clear
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so does OSX ;-)
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: ...and Debian
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Fiendish, the backups worked great for me and I love the extensions: olderer is my favorite
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: hehe
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: awesome
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I was going to go with olderest, but I figured there were enough manual backup slots already
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: they worked great before because I also don't have any spaces in my path
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not cdddr?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: fixed age suffixes made it easier to do backup rotation
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: so if I update the aardpackage, do i lose the settings?If not where can I find the correct way to update?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: board 1, note read 982
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the aard page for the download has a whole section on updating
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/play/downloadmc.htm has a section on upgrading
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: oke thanks looked over it.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: one thing to note is that if you were using Bast's copy of the bigmap plugin, you should remove that because the package now includes one that is better
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: How do you adjust the font display in mushclient? Simple question, but I never found out :P
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: i.e. how do you change the font?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game -> configure -> output
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: press ALT-something-or-other, then it should be obvious.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: that is for the active window
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: must appreciated abe
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's only one window in current MUSHclient setups...
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so that would tend to be the active one
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: I figured that out , day late again
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mis
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: is there anything i can do to make my neighbor's internet run faster?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pay for it
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trihex Tech: lol
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: abelinc i did.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pay for a faster version of it
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: hmmn. i dont have that kind of cash
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trihex Tech: or a more powerful wireless router
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ah a better router i might be able to do
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i thought routers couldnt be powerful because of the fcc
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are multiple ways to achieve power in the wireless world
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're limited in wattage output, not in effective radiation
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: free solution would be better placement of the access point...move it to the corner of the house closest to your place...cheap solution would be directional antennas, DIY such as the cantenna
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: so main screen is the right font, but chat log and all the other windows are different. how do i just those fonts? global preferences?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: adjust those fonts*
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: anyone?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: alt+enter, choose output, change font there iirc
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: for the other windows other than the main window right click gives a menu to change the font.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: heh. soo, i am not quite using a pc.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: but a mac emulating win xp running mushclient
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: those key commands do not work. where are they in the prefs?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: anyone know if there is an easy way to connect a 75 ohm coaxial cable line's signal wirelessly to a tv?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: erm... your mouse has no right click?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: its not that it does not have right click
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: its more that nothing happens when i try. an issue with the emulator no doubt.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: oh
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: any not your instructions
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: you could try editing the code of the plugins, to change their default text I guess
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cewyn Tech: Should be able to highlight the window and then go to world properties in MUSH. Output will let you choose the font or just use the default if you prefer.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: Hmm.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coss Tech: anyone know how to send blank lines from within a script to the mud?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: what client?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coss Tech: mush
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Send("")
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coss Tech: heh, too damned simple, i tried Send ("\")
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I think the problem with that was that you're escaping the closing quote
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: nods
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Anyone have a link to a good wireless Usb to mini usb adapter? I'm getting fed up with bumping this wire and the device detaching
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: monoprice.com
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I thought you were replying to yourself and my head exploded
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: lmao
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salvanas Tech: Anyone here (is Fiendish around?) know if any of the Aard client updates recently has disabled mousewheel scrolling of the main window? And how to re-enable it, if possible?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Slavanas: It has not.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Check if your mouse drivers were updated/installed on the other hand
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I am here. And no it hasn't. That would be ridiculous.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salvanas Tech: Hmm, so, any ideas how to enable it? Used to be able to, but had to reformat, so just downloaded the prog from the Aard website again last week, and now can't scroll...
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: can you scroll on other programs?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salvanas Tech: Mouse drivers were just reinstalled, since reformat. Scrolling works fine on other webpages, and in the comm log. 
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Slavanas: Do you have your mouse over the mini-window part?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: ah. it does scroll in the comm log? 
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: That's perhaps the issue if your manufacturer decided that scrolling must be handled by its own software
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salvanas Tech: mouse is over the window, yes. even tried clicking on the scroll bar to get focus, doesn't work.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: clicking the scrollbar is a little silly
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salvanas Tech: and yes, hovering over comm log allows scrolling of that miniwindow.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: hm
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salvanas Tech: used to be that I had to click in the main miniwindow, then could scroll... now that doesn't do anything either.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Odd, mine works.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salvanas Tech: Well, nvm. Troubleshooting it myself. seems must be the mouse drivers.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: that's a peculiar issue that I know nothing about. certainly nothing that I've done should cause it
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salvanas Tech: Just pulled out the USB dongle. Scrolling form the laptop trackpad works. :P
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fiendish goes, "OK".
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salvanas Tech: Odd, since it used to work before... Hmm...
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: try plugging the mouse back in again
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salvanas Tech: nope. No luck.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Did you reboot after install?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salvanas Tech: rebooted, yes.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salvanas Tech: I am running this copy off a USB stick though, where before reformat it was on the HDD itself... that shouldn't make any difference though, should it?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: USB was badly designed implemented by hardware manufacturers, microsoft, softeware programmers -- 2011 and YET there are usb difficulties, tsk
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Probably not, no
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: There's probably some conflict in your drivers
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: USB 3.0 came out.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salvanas Tech: Odd. Might try an uninstall/reinstall the mouse sometime. 
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xyliz does not use USB here, no problems at all -- with USB, lots of anomalies
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salvanas Tech: USB is convenient though. And anyway, not much other connectivity options with a laptop, I'm afraid.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: There's Bluetooth - but your problem is not with USB
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salvanas Tech: Nope, it's not. Just repying to Turie.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Heh, whoever created the mob "     A good place to sit on the rock is unoccupied." in sennarre is seriously confusing my regexp
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: that shopkeeper does not sell anything
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: MushClient - any simple tips on gagging INFO and other data that has been shunted to the Comm Log window?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right-click the comm window
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: echo off
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Thanks Abelinc.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: where can i start learning the basics of mushclient? are there tutorials somewhere?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mushclient.com is a good place :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: do they actually have a tutorials page somewhere?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: or were you talking about the faqs/forums?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: forums have walkthroughs for pretty much all of it
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: i just downloaded malwarebytes would that slow down my computer any if it wasnt set right?
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ladanday Tech: Shouldn't.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teapie Tech: Is there an easy way to display stats in the stats plugin in one row instead of two rows? I'd prefer this window to be bigger in height than in width.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: which stats window? Mine or the one that comes with the new Aardwolf MUSHclient
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: you can hack the plugin
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: it's one of the simplest plugins
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teapie Tech: one in the mushclient.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: right click->Flip Orientation
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i edited mine and tookout the stats i don't care about
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teapie Tech: no flip orientation, there's just 'reset defaults' and 'change font' options. okay, gonna try and hack it.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: then you aren't running the latest version
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teapie Tech: hm, downloaded it day or two ago from the aard's site.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Fiendish has updated it several times, I don't know if Lasher put the latest on the website: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teapie Tech: thanks, i'll try it too.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: where can i find help on tranferring my mushclient map database to the new verion?
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: on the aardwolf website
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: merci
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/play/downloadmc.htm has instructions for that
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: the download from aardwolf.com is never (except on release day) the very latest version
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I update usually several times per week, sometime several times per day, and we don't want that many announce notes
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: hooray.. got my map database. thanks Fiendish
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: what is the current version of aard mushclient?
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: snapshot r449 is the latest development download
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: i have ver. 4.33 should i upgrade?
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: woaaaaahhh that's...wicked old
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: the new aard mushclient package uses mushclient v4.72
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: you should upgrade, did the aard mush client with 4.33 even have the mapper?
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: no it didn't
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: so yes? also, is there any way to give a numeric argument to commands? also, you are the author? awesome program.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: say i wanted to disable the terrain colour in the gmcp mapper.. which function would i look in?  I've tried commenting out a few sections, but I'm not hitting the right spot.. i'd just like the background to be plain black
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I'm the developer of the aardwolf package, but not of MUSHclient itself
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: no problems.. i'll poke around some more then
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you mean the background texture, winklewinkle?
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i found it once before..
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: Winkle, the mapper has a toggle for that
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yeah.. i use this at work in down time.. and I'd like it to be as plain as possilbe
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: Click on the * at the top left of the mapper
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Winkle, click on the asterisk in the top left corner and go down to the bottom where it says "Area Textures" and click "On" it will turn to "Off"
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: lol thanks!
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: then click on the "x" in the top left
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i thought of that as a lengend rather than being interactive.. 
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: it is an interactive configuration popup
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: cool. isee that now .. thanks guys!
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: so is there a way to ,for example, get 10 heal bag?
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: just all or 1
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: ok thanks :)
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: the aardwolf mushclient package is a bunch of plugins and configuration on top of MUSHclient. MUSHclient changes versions every once in a while and is currently up to 4.72. I keep the package up to date with the latest versions of MUSHclient. the package also changes versions every time I add features or bug fixes to the plugins.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: and the package version is current r449 on the development site
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: thanks i'll upgrade tonight
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you can find the development site in my finger info, or go to aardwolf.com if you want r397
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: thanks fiendish!
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Anyone know of a resource on how to make numpad keys (with numlock off) send different characters than what they normally send (ie, instead of 8 sending up, i want it to send it's char sequence) in gnome-terminal?
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modi Tech: it'd prob affect dir buttons too, ive wondered about that
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: before i hack it.. it there a way to make stats monitor monochrome?
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: man keymaps?
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: no winkle
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: thx
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: use Accelerator to map the keys instead?
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Kuojiryuu he isn't talking about mushclient
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: oh
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Nods, i'm wondering if there's a way for ubuntu 10.10 to do it without changing what the arrow keys do
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I generally suggest not modifying the plugins in the aardwolf client if you don't have to, because it's just going to make upgrading later more difficult
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yeah i know.. and i totally agree.. but I've gotta have it "jsut so" for some windows... so hacking is the only way after a certian point
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: I'm unfamiliar with mush, but is it feasible to dupe a plugin, disable the original, and install the copy?
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: colors stand out like a sore thumb in this screen.. if they are msotly white and bwhite then it just looks like a terminal window
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Tyebald: what?
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Tyebald: you have to either totally uninstall the original or change the plugin id in the dupe
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: winkle: set your display to black and white
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: well, if a plugin is essentially just a single file that can be installed/uninstalled, couldn't it also be copied?
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: yes Tyebald
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: plugins all have UIDs though and two plugins can't have the same UID at the same time
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: the reason I'm asking is, one could then theoretically edit the copy to get the desired functionality, but not necessarily totally screw up the ability to upgrade.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: that's not the problem
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you can always upgrade over an edited copy. the problem is transferring your edits over to the new one
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: it's just a hassle sometimes
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: actually I feel the level of newbies has went down
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: mis!
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: has "gone" down
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: right, but if there's a copy (and it's not a binary file), should be relatively straightforward to see the changes and merge.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: at least, easier than not working with a copy.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: tyebald: merging changes isn't always straightforward
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: it depends on how significant the differences between the old and new versions are
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: understood.  but starting from a copy should at least help with the merges that aren't so complex.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: whereas if a person submits feature/enhancement requests to https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/issues/list then *I* make sure that everything gets included in new versions
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: assuming I accept the request, which I usually do
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: ah.  well, that would be easier for the user. :)
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moofie Tech: I have the newest MushClient, and have xterm on. What am I doing wrong here ->> colorset  players   ... it acts as if it doesn't recognize the arguments.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moofie Tech: ugh ...
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moofie Tech: it didn't print the color code ... which was @x050
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moofie Tech: colorset players @x050
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: colorset players 050
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: don't include the @x
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: read what it responds...<color> can also be 000-255 for xterm colors.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moofie Tech: don't use the @x?
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moofie Tech: oh wow! Thanks all! Greatly appreciated! :o)
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it knows you want a color...you're not "inlining" the color
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moofie Tech: good point
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: like you could always type colorset tech bcyan
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moofie Tech: Interesting! This is going to be a lot of fun to play with :o)
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: any Idea's on why in bast miniwin_stats plugin in will only show stats and not quest,...
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Orogan: is it showing any of the other tabs, Levels, CPs, or GQs?
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: nope
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: but didn't completed any of them yet
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: if you type "statdb comp" do you get a table of stuff?
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: hmm seems I didn't inst the statdb.xml, tought i did
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: install*
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: I'll get back to you when I did a q,cp or so, thanks bast
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: np
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: I need to remember when installing aardpackage updates it overwrites yyou'r plugins directorie
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: your
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it shouldn't, all my stuff should be in a different directory
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: and the data is all in the logs directory
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what it overwrites is the listing of plugins you have installed
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yes it does, because it replace the world file, good point
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: its in in sub under plugins dir, and gets removed when I copy the world directory.Or so I noticed.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it doesn't get removed unless you're overwriting your mushclient..."installing" a new mushclient should involve you making a new directory, not overwriting the original
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: you got a point there... :/
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: change "mushclient" to "oldmushclient" or something, then take your time copying stuff over
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: luckly I don't really care about the statistics that much.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varkie Tech: hey anyome willimg to help me out with a scripting prob
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: just ask the question
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varkie Tech: i downloaded a spell up script and i dont know how to add my classes and level to get it working
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Well, what script was it?  Who wrote it?  What client?
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: you might want to also specify your client
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varkie Tech: i use much
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varkie Tech: it was writen by huan
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that one's likely quite ancient
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varkie Tech: thank you
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Bast has a great miniwindow spellup plugin.  "finger bash" and go to his website.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: download bast's plugin folder and add his spellup plugin. lots more people will be familiar with it t ohelp
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: sorry "finger bast"
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I was going to say that bast's also here active a lot...but wow, huan's online now too ;-)
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but yeah, huan's spellup script is from before 2 pretty big changes...(1) before it was legal to fully automate keeping spellups on yourself, and (2) spelltags, which greatly simplify the code needed for spellup scripts to keep yourself spelled up
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Any idea why on my Ubuntu 10.10 every time i reboot my time (clock) drops back 2 hours? I've verified that the location is set for my location, etc
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is your bios set for your timezone?
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Don't believe so
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: some bioses were wonky in how they presented the time/timezone to the OS
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Will look next time i have to reboot
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Unless there's a way to check from inside the OS?
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Ie, in your scenario, you have 20 trained str, and get 5 from eq/spells.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: mis
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: i do? :P
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: ok, so i just downloaded the aardwolf mushclient...is there a getting started guide i can read? (beyond the very simple window that popped up when i opened it)
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: ...why does the tick timer count by two?
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: it's binary
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Myrkul: You can change that in the Tick Timer from 2 to 1 if you wish.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: that tells me nothing, turie
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: my tick timer counts seconds
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: and has done since 1996
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The reason it counts down by two is because Lasher wrote it that way I believe.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: and how can i get rid of this tooltip with the line number and timestamp whenever i move the mouse on the main window?
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: Lasher is written in binary
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Myrkul: one sec
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Myrkul: That is something I do not know.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Myrkul: Game->Configure->Output... uncheck show line information
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: cool
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Myrkul: I don't think there's a significant reason for the counting by two, other than that 2 second resolution ought to be sufficient
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: yeah, it probably is, it's just gonna take some getting used to
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: though this is different enough from cmud that i'm not convinced i'm sticking with it yet anyway
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I changed it to 1 second count down.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: how is the mapper database designed? could i port my cmud mapper to this format?
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: you could, it'd be a big job
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: probably not
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: i can write sql
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: just need to know the differences
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=10621
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: could you really be bothered though/
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: yes i could, farkyss
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: feh, i couldn't
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: i'd rather not have to remap 20k rooms :P
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: then why change at all
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: cause zugg pisses me off
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: is there a way i can make mush auto-copy text to the clipboard when i highlight it?
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Myrkul: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=10621   This is a zMUD mapper conversion to MUSHclient.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: that isn't news :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: i wouldn't change now on principle
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: oh, i'm not sure i'm sticking with it
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: but i'm trying it out at least
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: if i can't auto-copy text to the clipboard by highlighting it, that's a real negative... :P
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Myrkul: ctrl-d or ctrl-c.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: that's not automatic, turie
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: i'm familiar with windows shortcuts, thank you :P
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: whoa, who changed my tech color from purple :P
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Myrkul: Then write a plugin for it to do auto-copy.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: no clue where to start on that
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: i've never written mush plugins before
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Farkyss chuckles politely.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is has 8 scripting languages.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: is one of them zscript?
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: (or you could stick with the old client that did it alread)
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Nope. That is Zugg only.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: then it could have 100 scripting languages, and i'd still be clueless
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: give in to the power of the dark side of the force...
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: it is... your destiny
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I would hate auto-copying on selection
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Fiendish: It would be annoying.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: i've gotten used to it
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: yeah...looks like you did a great job on this fiendish, i really wish i could have fancy graphics like this in cmud :P
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: but i don't have the time atm to learn how to use it, so i'm sticking with cmud for now
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Myrkul: I hope to at some point put together a walkthrough guide
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: don't know when, though
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: what would you guys suggest for jailbreaking an ipod firmware 4.2.1?
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: butter.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Accora Tech: Hey techies, quick Cmud question.  I just converted my mudfile from Zmud to Cmud, and most of my various trackers (quest, level, hourly, etc) work just fine with the exception of spacing.  I.e., it's showing up as "gtInfo" as opposed to "gt Info"  This is kind of silly...but how can I add that space in?
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: add " around the strings to keep spacing
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: try delimiting with quotation marks.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: eg "gt info" apposed to gt info
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Accora Tech: That's not really working.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: if your cmud is still crunching down spaces in double-quote-surrounded strings, you have a really broken cmud and either need to take steps to fix it or need to upgrade to version 3.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Accora Tech: It's probably super broken :p
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Accora Tech: I literally just opened it for like the first time today, and had it convert all the Zmud stuff to Cmud basically just to see how much would work and how much wouldn't
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: are they atreidess' tracker scripts cuz if so thats your problem, iirc there are some trackers in the library
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Accora Tech: Trying to decide if I think this is worth the effort or not.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Accora Tech: Nods, I saw Charneus posted Cmud versions.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Zugg software is broken.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: hehe, I assume you're looking at the Compatibility Wizard?  You're going to have a thousand different little things to fix from your ZMud code.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Accora Tech: I'm probably not going to stick with it :p
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: its best not to use his code for cmud alot of it is full of errors
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Accora Tech: I'mma probably stick with Zmud and just live in the past forever.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: if you are using version 3.something, you will kick yourself in your happy place(s) for not investing time to learn how to use CMud instead of staying with ZMud.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Accora Tech: I'm not sure what that even means.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moofie Tech: Or trading to MushClient, which is better than either Z or Cmud
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Accora Tech: I can't use Mushclient on my laptop, everything is too small for me to see (visual issues)
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Accora Tech: Too compacted with all the windows.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: no thanks, zmud v4 and windows 95 for me
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Moofie blinks innocently at Gonf.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: im using telnet from a bootable cd copy of linux
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: no, there's more readily shared scripts in Mush.  At best, it's functionally equivalent to CMud.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moofie Tech: I've used all three of those clients
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moofie Tech: Z and Cmud for more than a decade
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Accora Tech: I've been using Zmud since 2000.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moofie Tech: Mushclient blows them out of the water
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Zmud/Cmud = Pro botter, MUSH is for noobie bots :p joking^^ sort of
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: bah.  use tintin.  I've been using it since 1992.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: funny, but still not even close to accurate, Sheni.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Accora Tech: What is really going to be the deciding factor for me is if I can get my speedwalk system working in another client.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Accora Tech: If so, I'll go to another client.  If not, I'm Zmud forever.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moofie Tech: I tried TinTin years ago ... didn't stick with it
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: your speedwalk system use zmud maps or something?
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Accora Tech: I'm using a customized version of Fiendish's Zmud speedwalk updater, added a layer of #paths to it for convenience.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: my speedwalk system uses my 10 fingers, and a mind like a steel sieve.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Accora Tech: If I understand correctly, Cmud doesn't allow for out-of-client text files to be used.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: hmm, nods
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: my speedwalk uses my cmud map
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Accora Tech: I don't really like maps :/
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moofie Tech: I use runto now ... and have gotten rid of all but a few of my speedwalks
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Accora Tech: I find them more cumbersome than useful.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: moving your code from ZMud to CMud will be a lot simpler (albeit just as tedious given the compatibility edits) than rewriting it in Mush/TinTin/TinyFugue/etc or tinkering with someone else's hard work.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: well, the aard mush package doesn't need to be "installed", just unzip and run
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: so if you want to give it another go sometime, plenty of folks here can help you out with any issues
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: that's still an installation, you know.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: what did <COMObject> do in zmud?
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: %session ...
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: probably exposed info regarding your connection.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: ie, Character Properties.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: figured it out ... it can show info like where the file is ... cmud still has it i was just syntaxing it wrong
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: you can pass the !<COMObject> object to an external routine so that it can manipulate zmud/cmud.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: you can pass the %session object that is.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: it's the client's equivalent to this.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leges Tech: anyone know why a router would periodically stop working for about 2-5 miniutes about 5 times aday? weird thing about this is aardwolf continues working so i guess something is still working. Web pages won't load on any of three wireless laptops. and i believe a hardwired xbox also stops working.  
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: if aard is still working, the router is not the problem
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: it could be a dns problem
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leges Tech: hmm well i connected directly to modem and worked fine. then back to router and issue continued.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ok. So it could be that the router has problem resolving DNS. If you use it for DNS, try using your ISPs DNS servers directly instead.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leges Tech: ...
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: What, you don't know Swedish?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: mis
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: What's a good way to report current time from a MUSHClient plugin?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: Hello? My dtracker isn't picking up the spell i'm tracking, whats up with that?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orielle Tech: is there anyone here who can help a rank beginner set a target ?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orielle Tech: Mushclient
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: How do you make mushclient stop showing the timestamp at the side
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: You mean for the commlog?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: no, in the output window 
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Right-click in the comm-log->timestamp->No Timestamps
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Hmm, I have no timestamps so can't help you there
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: Dang it...
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: Oh, ok, figured it out
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ikari Tech: With the new Aardmush, is there a way to not have outputs shown at the end of my prompt? On the old client it would show everything on a new line, now it adds it after my prompt when it can. Like when I use a skill in combat and such. If that makes sense.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: put %c at the end of the prompt and bprompt
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: to see the current prompt bprompt, type config
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ikari Tech: ooh, that worked. Thanks Xyliz.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mars Tech: any cmud mapper/gmcp experts around?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mars Tech: Trying to update my cmud maps with gmcp, to add the vnum. I have a room in shiela's cat sanctuary, "Inside an escape route", that has a vnum of -1, so the mapper won't update that room, any idea how to get around this?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mars Tech: is there any secret to getting the cmud mapper to not catch things like spells failing or a channel talking as the room name?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: im mushclient mapper..can i setup a custom command batch for an exit eg "mapper cexits open w;w"
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: yeah, use four semi-colons
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: the ol' double escape!
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: mucho thankso
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: hmmm i think i'm not quite understanding it.. or its not working right...
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: I was having difficulty with the chained commands so i made an aard alias called openw
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: do you have the most recent version?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yep... r449
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: alias openw = open w;w
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: so then i did "mapper cexit openw".. and it moved right.. and setup a custom exit with the right room uids
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: oh wait.. forget it.. new mapper needs a really specific name.. sorry to bother you
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: in mapper is there a way to purge the exits for 1 room only?  My mapper has it in it's head that i can walk througha  door... i've setup a custom exit, but it's not using it.. rather.. it's walking me into the door
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: as i had walked that way before i setup the cexit
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: anyone have any ideas as to how i can install windows 95 when it won't recognize my usb keyboard?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: i mean winxp
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: windows 95 was before usb
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: machine telepathy
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I was going to say - even if we're playing a mud, you don't need to simulate the environment...
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: lol, i meant xp
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i would ahve thought your bios would have been responsible for detecting your keyboard at some level.. does it work in the bios settings screen?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if there is a ps2 kbd female-plug on the computer, insert a ps2 kbd
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: if i could get simcity 4 to run in wine i would never run windows again
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: no ps2 port :)
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Thargar ( i don't know how to internet
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gruagach Tech: i tried to internet once and it was too much for me, i couldn't handle it 
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: microsoft products are deliberately designed to suck on older equipment
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: And by sucking on older equipment you mean...
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gruagach Tech: whatever pays the rent, mirite
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: You mean Microsoft has a case of the ol' Hugh Hefner?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: microsoft wants customers to upgrade to the latest hardware and software
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Thargar laughs out loud at Entopee.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: yes it works in bios screen but my xp install disk won't recognize the keyboard
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: its one of those system restore disks from another computer
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Might have to borrow a friend's keyboard
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: so if the hardware is too old, or missing a component, or too modern, for a microsoft software product, and difficulties are encountered, ool or upgrade or learn to enjoy suffering
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: this mobo only has usb ports, i'm going to upgrade it someday ..
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: ool?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: out of luck?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yes.. i also recommend finding a friends generic keyboard.. borrow a dell keyboard form school or work
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: perhaps use an install disk from another computer with a usb keyboard - but maybe those difficulties were inserted by microsoft to prevent software piracy
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: does the motherboard have a ps2 port
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: thanks winklewinkle but i only have usb on my motherboard. no other kbd connector.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: windows setup wont dtdetect it?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: unless by "install disks", those were the "vanilla originals"
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: no its a dell xp restore disk
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: download a copy of the windows xp pro iso from the piratebay
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: bittorrent and thepiratebay.org you can find pretty much anything..
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: or just get a better os
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: hmm i might give that a try
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: i havent had to buy software or music in about 15 years
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: so an os from bittorent isn't going to be filled with virii and such?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: yes it will
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: digital music sounds like noise -- at least you did not pay for that noise
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: no depends, really just read the comments below
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: get ubuntu instead, I am 99.9998% sure that keyboard will work fine
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: i find that site doesnt allow a bunch of crap
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: btjunkie.org has a very good community for rating good/bad torrents
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: and if it is bad people always post that the torrent is crap
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: but ANY executable from a torrent is a risk
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: sort it by how many people are seeding... is the best way i find
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: keyboard works great in linux. my only reason for want xp is to play simcity 4
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: install wine
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: not sure if it will run under it tho
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: it almost runs :)
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: i've had good luck with the piratebay myself.. reading the comments is the best way and downloading the iso your not at risk you still have to burn it to a cd
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: i think i might just learn to build simcities in blender instead
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Download an OEM copy and verify that it has correct MD5's by going to a Microsoft website with said hashes
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: bingo! that is GOOD advice
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: thanks that was my next question 
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: as ISOs are just glorified zip files.. they can be opened , infected and re-packed
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: ya i know however its not going to start infecting your computer as soon as you download it
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: iso files are not zip files, but they could both be called archive files
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: its just a copy of a cd, hard drive, dvd whatever
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: one big image file
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: no, it's a bit more than that actually
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: go ask wikipedia :)
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: i understand them dont need to been using them for years
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yes i think you're going for a level of correctness we don't need to explore
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: sorry, sometimes im like that :)
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: this _is_ the tech channel, after all
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: =) 
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: i would just go buy a retail xp if i could but effing msoft hasn't left that option
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: ya i know, which always made me wonder why microsoft gets po'd about you downloading something that they dont sell anymore
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: greed?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i 100% agree
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'd actually buy Win xp if they'd sell it
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: they don't.. so i am FORCED to priate it
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: they want you to upgrade your system and OS its all about the money
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I'm sure their lawyers don't see it that way though... :)
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: The thing with XP though is that activation and verification are so easy, there's almost no benefit to buying it
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'd even pay $50 for a legit copy of xp 
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: microsoft is greedy and wants to sell their crappy bloated more recent products, so they want to restrict the older products that work
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Whereas with the newer versions of office (07 and up), dubious software must be installed to bypass the checks
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: if they sell it i guess they would be liable to support it which i wouldnt to support either
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oozaru Tech: Hey guys anyway to config mush so I can see what I type in the command line
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baconist Tech: get tech on the other hand... 80% of costs to every software business is maintenance of legacy products. MS legitimately has to make money to stay in business, legacy products COST them rather than generate revenue.  The arguments here are a little on the silly side. If you don't like MS of the way businesses must conduct business, there are plenty of free alternatives (linux, for example).
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baconist Tech: typo at the beginning of that... its Bill Gates fault.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: microsoft does not adequately "maintain" current products -- that 80% cost figure is bogus
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oozaru Tech: Does anyone use the msuhclient to run aardwolf>
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oozaru Tech: er mush
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: type client
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: You technically don't "run" aardwolf in your client
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: But about 1/3 of Aard players are using mush, yes
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: a lot of people do, ask your question please
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oozaru Tech: Do you know ho configure it so you can see your text when you type commands?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: I am one of 2 using atlantis!
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oozaru Tech: I can only see my text after I hit enter
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fiendish raises an eyebrow.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: your input box must be off your screen
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: ^
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: then you have hidden the command line, at the bottom of the main window move your mouse until you see an up-down arrow and drag it up some
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oozaru Tech: Hah, wow...
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oozaru Tech: Thanks must have adjusted it and not noticed. Thanks guys.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: fiendish have you thought of switching from mushclient to emacs? 
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: don't ask stupid questions
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: because that would be awesome!
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: mushclient needs a morsecode pluging.. so all commands can be entered with the space bar :P
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: i'll take that as a no then.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Abelinc has morse code commands in his client
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: there are no stupid questions, only stupid questioners.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Thargar, you apparently did not read the posts by Necroshine
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: reading tech board now :)
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Necroshine is usually okay on forums, but on Debate or Gossip, the posts are deliberately screwed
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: anybody know of a good apache web server monitoring tool
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: for what? statistics etc or something else?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: features include parsing of access.log and ssl_access.log for 404s 500s 300s 200s and the likes
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: webalizer, analog, awstat for example
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: ill look into it... thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: anyone know with ansi how to "turn off" blink at later parts of the string?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: cmud
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: blink?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: yeah, blinking text
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: where do you have blinking text?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: %ansi(hi, green, blink)
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: only problem is it doesn't turn off until carriage return so the entire last half of a string blinks
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: nm i think i figured it out
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: if you call another ansi tag does it stop?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: no
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: but I added a %ansi(reset)
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: where I wanted the blink to end
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pooven Tech: anyone know any slick dj software?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: final scratch?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anipopo Tech: buzz :P
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pooven Tech: does it have alot of features?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fiendish shrugs helplessly.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: So if I get a bluetooth GPS receiver, can I pair it with my iPod touch 4 to improve location services?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: does the ipod touch have a mechanism for interpreting NMEA strings?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: probably not
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I don't know what kind of hooks apple provides, but it might be possible to write software that would do it by receiving the NMEA $GPGGA sentence from your receiver
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are gps apps that can talk to bluetooth gps receivers
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://www.amazon.com/Dual-Electronics-XGPS150-Universal-Smartphones/dp/B004M3BICU for an example GPS receiver compatible with Apple IOS devices
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: is there a way to clear the zmud map?  the mapper help overflows my screen in the client, and I see no scrollback... 
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: (the lasertag map is incorrect the next time I play)
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: just don't map the lasertag zone then? :P
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: "the zmud map" is a little bit vague
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: the mushclient tries to map everything... 
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: ...are you using mushclient or zmud?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: mushclient, actually.. zmud was a mistake to say
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: scroll up.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: use your mouse wheel, page up, or the scroll bar on the right side of your screen. all will let you scroll up.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: but I do see that the mouse wheel works
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: oh, I see.. way over there... heh
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: silly me thought it would be attached to the window it scrolled
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you're probably looking for the mapper purgezone function
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: yeah, that confused me too :P
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: 'mapper purgezone lasertwo' should clear the laser zone map
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: hey, what's laserone?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: yep.. purgezone sounds right
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: laserone was a fixed map area
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: lasertwo appears to have fixed exits instead of random
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: all the exits are fixed
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: it's really just a 15x15 square, but there's some walls in it
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Exits aren't random, the map is randomized at run-time
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: and the walls change from game to game
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: oh, I didn't realize. Yeah I remember lasher showing me something about that
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: yes.. that's what I meant.. the mapper doesn't imagine that could happen
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: just make a trigger on the lasertag game ended message to purge the zone then
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: heh 'mapper quest' doesn't show the Philosophes guy, even though that's the one I use most often :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Add him in notes?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: don't really see the point.. I just run the 4 steps to him
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: that's actually a game-side issue. there's nothing mudside indicating that the room has a questor in it
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: client-side, you mean?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: is there in other rooms?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: no I don't
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I mean game-side
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Game-side does several parts of the GMCP Mapper.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: oh something like a room-flag that says it has a questor?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: i don't recall there being a questor flag in gmcp, could be wrong though
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: oh, you mean on the map?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: there isn't, but I believe there's supposed to be
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: there are questor flags on preloaded rooms in the map database distributed with the client, but for some reason they aren't being sent by the mud
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: so if you go back to those rooms the mud information overwrites the previous information (because it's different) and the flag gets erased
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I suggest writing a note on the bugs board about it
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: I guess I have a different project, looking at all my results for 'mapper unmapped' :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I'm trying to configure the potion quaffer for mushclient, but when I try to get it to detect the potions in the bag, it just says 'You don't see that here.'. Any ideas?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: yes there is a bug that a single potion will not be detected
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: you need at least 2 in the bag
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I've got 20 of each. Just thought, does the 'pots' command handle id numbers as well as names? I've defined the bag using it's number.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: yes it can
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: did you write the healpot desc exactly?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: if it says you don't see that here, sounds like it's not even finding the bag...
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I think so, set my heal to 'Healer's Ballad' and mana to 'Lotus Bud'
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: It finds it ok when buying them, just not when doing 'pots'
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: so when you buy them they go into the bag, but when you do pots the bag is not found?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Exactly
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: o.0 try redefining the bag, if you're using an aardbag might be better to use its (idnumber) like that
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Does it matter that I've not defined a buff potion?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: no it does not matter
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I'm using the id number already
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: would mccp help my client not close when i use runto?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: yeah?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: probably
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: do you have maprun on?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: maprun off might help too
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: mccp helps everything.. including your qp reserves
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: yes i have maprun on but i like it better
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: but i was trying to find a way to keep maprun and not have it close on me
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: that might be why you disconnect as well
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: try turning mccp on
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I can't think of a single reason not to use MCCP.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: well i was trying to avoid downloading something to make mccp work
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: because your client doesn't support it?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: putty does not support it
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: o.O  You're using putty for aard?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: yes i am
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Why?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: mainly because i dont want to download a bunch of stuff on someone elses computer
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: i wrote my one telnet program in dos 5.0 using qbasic beat that
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cide cowers in a corner and whimpers softly.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Obtain <$20, buy a very small flash drive, get aardclient.  Be happy.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: i have a 1gb  flashdrive the school gave me :P
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: "use for school papers" aard is school related
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cide agrees with the voices in his head again.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: And what's stopping you from running MUSH on it?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: its not here and i didnt htink about it until you said something
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Done and done.  All problems gone.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cide is agreeing with that Xaxz person again...
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: winrar is free right?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: ya
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: No
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: the trial is
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: just use 7zip
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: ^
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: 7zip is good
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Also free
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: get old school and use pkzip
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: and can do anything winrar can
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheezburger . o O ( and then some )
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: The UI is uglier than a horse's, butt though
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: or gzip and tar
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Meh, who needs a UI, just right click, 7zip, add to archive, choose format, done
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: See the ui for all of 10s
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: or use windows built in archives
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I don't use UI's at all - I'm on xmonad on linux
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Just saying
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Nods, zip -19qm ftw
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: it's not possible to not use a ui :P
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: 10s or 2s?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Well, I mean I don't use much besides CLI
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: 10s if you don't know where you're clicking ahead of time (read: first time user)
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: and cli isn't a ui?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: the "ugly as butt" implies GUI, so yes you can :P
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Something not visual can't be 'ugly' :P
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I forgot the G, sorry
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: oh, thought you were referring to the 10 kinds of people joke.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox beams at Entopee and generously forgives them.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: There are only 10 kinds of people on this words. People who understand binary, and people who don't.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: words=world
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Hey i've seen that t-shirt
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Cheezburger: ever configured sendmail? Or coded pearl? Things can be ugly, even if nonvisual.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: i'm sure the joke didn't originate on a t-shirt :P
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: have you seen the nintendo dress?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: try your hand at lisp see if you dont get a headache
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Not 'ugly' in the sense of how he used it, was gonna clarify but didn't expect someone to nitpick :P
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Or try debugging someone's buggy ass script without comments and references and var names that make no logical sense. That's 'ugly' :P
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Nothing wrong with lisp.  It's lambda calculus with a bunch of syntactic sugar on top. :)
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: don't forget no indentation, cheez ;)
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: or new lines :)
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Yes
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: lol, even worse :P
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: nods
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: a long time ago, someone created this dress that used some sort of optic-fiber fabric (ie, the dress itself was the screen).  You could plug in your controller and play video games on your hot date.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Someone tried writing a Lua script, then asked for help. All one line. I wanted to scream at them
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Don't wear that dress to the airport....warning!
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Indentation and line feeds doesn't matter. A pretty printer can fix those things. Variables named data1, data3, value5, and value6 cannot be fixed by anyone. They should just be shot.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: heh, why not?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: how hot is she really if you need to play video games on her? :P
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: geek is the new cool, so there's a great chance for hotness even if she were socially awkward.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Nah, worse than that. if ($var > $varone - $vartwo ^ ($varone - $vartwo)) {$varthree=&runscript($varone, $vartwo);}
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Hey! How'd you get hold of my script?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fastfinge falls down laughing.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: It's pretty bad when you have to comment out 90% of a script just to decide wtf a variable is coming from.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: the mccp did help btw if anyone was wondering
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Awesome.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: also helped run smoother internet connection
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: i dont lag out and stuff now
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: haha and you get 2 extra qp
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: ^ Most significant part of MCCP, equivalent to 2 tiers
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: Yeah that extra 2qps helps a lot in the long run
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Although I guess not being able to play because of lag is a detrimental problem
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gruagach Tech: its not really that it helps, but it doesn't really affect anything on your end by enabling it
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nausicaa Tech: or if you're playing on a mobile platform
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: seems like it does
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: could be because everyone else is off this connection
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: does mush support mccp?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: yeap
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: cause i found mush on this computer
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modi Tech: and gmcp whatever that is
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: neat
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cide nods.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modi Tech: i dont know what either mean nm
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: scripts and all that goodness too?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: guess that would be what the scripting button is for :P
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: gmcp is an updated version of telnet suboptions.  Both are ways to send data to the client without spamming the user
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: would anyone know why teamviewer wont connect to a computer
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: can ping to the computer?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: i dono if i can ping have not tried but i can send a message through TV to the computer ... in all honesty im sitting 1 foot from the other computer
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: i just downloaded eset to try it could that be messing with it?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: definitely could
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: make sure your firewall isn't blocking it
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: firewall, check your if teamviewer is whitelisted
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: the other computer can connect to this one just when i switch sides i dont get the box to control the other one
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Anyone know a linux way to macro specific keys? ie, KP_8 to do something. AutoKey comes close, but it just substitutes it instead of sends it.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: that would be dependant on your window manager
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: looks like awesome
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: The default ubuntu 10.10
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ok, so gnome then.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard shortcuts
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Nods, comes close but i can't send to a window
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: You mean you want to make one key do a lot of things? Or you want one key to do something completely different?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Ie, AutoKey i can define that if the window has <this name> then send <this> instead of <this> key
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: sure you can, just call a script that enters keypresses
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: You have an example of what that script would look like?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: xdotool key alt+Tab
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: with the usual hasbang at first line of course
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Can't do KP_8, it reads keypad as normal button
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Ie, KP_8 sends as just 8
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ah, but you can use xmodmap to map that physical key to something else that can be used. Use something you don't normally use.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: e.g. an umlaut or something
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coss Tech: anyone know howto make tag settings stable (permanent even after quitting), at least the channels tags seem to be turned ON for some reason when logging on
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: are you using the aard mush client?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coss Tech: yeah
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: it has a init script that turns them on for channel capture etc. but i know nothing about mush so no idea how to remove/modify it
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: anyone know how to disable facebook chat on the site? i'm already using it over jabber, i don't want the windows popping up on the site either and half of the lines going to messages because it thinks i'm offline for some reason
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Awq brushes the dust of mickies.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ick Tech: newb I wanna be able to click sub-descriptional texts//singular words in the display-window and have another window react back to the mudserver with specifics requests
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reina Tech: any car expertise here?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: press the brake to make it stop
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: shift gear into reverse while going at 60km
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox grins mischievously.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Reina goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: mean little kuro
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: lol I saw it on some comic, about this dog asking what did the reverse gear do.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: what do you guys figure about this article? http://cryptome.org/0003/fbi-backdoors.htm 
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: talking about openbsd, tax evasion and ipsec
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: i just stumbled upon the site while searching for random chaotic topics through google, it has some interesting idea's on it
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: meh is why i use windows. at least then you know its about as secure as a sieve and behave accordingly
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: hahaha, that's why i use it too
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: gotta be a master of electricity and a master of coding it in order to make sure your kernel's clean, and that requires alot of time
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: its when you use allegedly secure os's that things go wrong 
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: coughapplecough
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, it stems from a VERY disgruntled and imbalanced guy looking to make some money, rather than stemming from anything accurate
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: greg, the guy claiming the issues has seriously misstated quite a few facts, down to the level of who he was actually working for at the time
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but this is all pretty old news, been hashed to death for months
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: have now tried 3 times to get the latest aardclient from the google code page. every time it gets to 19.4% and hangs. anyone else have that issue?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope, downloaded in a couple seconds for me
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Same here.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: for me it worked fine, from the link from the aardwolf page. I run it in a windows emulator, but not in the programs directory. install it somewhere else, because of write permissions
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Just downloaded it. It took 30 seconds.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: meh must be my internets then. they fell on their bum again methinks. thats what you get using a 3g connection when its rainining
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: or is there a newer version than mush 4.72?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: MUSHclient has not released a new version since Feburary.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: wish they would. needs to have support for mp3 sounds. wav sucks
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: then i have the latest. worked fine for me
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Post a note on MUSHclient's forums about it.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: jerome, he's talking about the packaged portable release complete with a buttload of useful aard scripts, not just mushclient itself
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: yup I downloaded the aardversion with the GMCP mapper, the group plugin etc
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: yep. find i cant mud without my mapper anymore
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the way fiendish is actively maintaining the aard releases, you really shouldn't need to download from gammon's site anymore
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: is there any way to add a custom exit manually for the mapper? the mob prog takes longer than the 2seconds to activate so it doesnt capture it on mapper with cexit
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Not that I know of.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: darn:P
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: okay.. what would cause my browser to stop working, my VPN connection to stop working, but mushclient to go on as if nothing's wrong?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: dns problem?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: I called up tracert ... it was able to get numbers from a dns -- seems like it got stuck on a dslrouter... but I wonder why mushclient doesn't suffer from that
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: in fact, tracrt aardmud.org also gets stuck at that same dslrouter
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: malfunctioning nat probably
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: strange that she's still connected to the mud though, ranrr...
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not really, it's an open connection
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: existing connection might work fine, but not new
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: my open VPN connection shut down...
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: that's probably udp so it might be different
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: eh? telnet uses tcp
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for non-connectionless communications, the standard behavior is to not do packet-based routing, i.e. once a route is created, that route is always used
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gonf, vpn is not telnet
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: oh, sorry, wasn't paying attention :/
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: no abe, youre wrong, each packet is independant of others. Now, there may be route caching, but that's only ok as the per packet behaviour is conserved
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: This is IP, not SONET
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: tracert would only use packets, I'd think... and those aren't getting through
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ranrr, that's not true, it depends on the router's configuration
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: No, you're wrong.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: an open connection on a router, with most standard configurations, will not reroute
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yes it will.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Except perhaps on a NAT device, but that's not routing.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then perhaps you should tell cisco that they don't know how their own equipment operates
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cide grabs some popcorn and sits back to watch the show.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: They do, you don't.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Just because a route lookup is cached, doesn't mean there won't be a reroute if the network changes.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes they do, you're correct, which is why they teach it properly
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on how the network changes
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frozone Tech: is there a plugin to fully have a map explored , instead of going and exploring all the rooms to have all the rooms on your map explored ??
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: frozone, no
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: The heck?  Are you actually suggesting that flow-based routing has any meaningful existence except at the very edge?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: No. You have to do it.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: that sounds a lot like a bot...
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: Whats a bot?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Flow based routing is not used, except sometimes for qos.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: That's absurd.  No core router has the memory or the time to maintain a state table like that.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: But very rarely.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Exactly. Which is why each pcket is independant of other packets.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: No router (except a NAT device, which is not a router) maintains states except for caching and statistics.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: Well, any stateful firewall has to maintain state.  I s'pose strictly speaking that isn't _exactly_ a router, though a non-routing firewall is...  well, pretty effective, to be sure   ;)
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: Still, that's unlikely to bear on the routing decision in any but very edge (so to speak) cases.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: True. There are other reasons to keep state as well, like IDS.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: With a lot of work, I could probably dream up a situation where you'd want that sort of information outside of your own AS.  But it would take some doing.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Inter-as DDOS protection maybe.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: on this subject i have a pretty basic question :P
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: I'd lay money there's been no case of that happening end to end across the public IP network since it stopped being a research project, though.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: 17.  That's your answer.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: Thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: but What i was going to ask was i havent decided if i wanted to get a CCNA or MCSA anyone know what one would be more useful?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Erikson blinks innocently.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Do you want to work with cisco equipment or microsoft servers?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: That's like asking whether you should buy a car or a teacup..
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: depends on whats more in the area
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Choose whatever you like best. You'll probably find jobs with both of those under the belt.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: well ive been told it depends on wher ei live and all that goodness
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I'd choose CCNA, but that's because I like networking and hate ms. :)
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: Yeah.  If you're in San Francisco, get a CCNA.  If you're in Redmond, get the MCSA.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: ok thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: Anyone here used an Arduino with the PS2Keyboard library?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: How can I capture the   "   character in regexp?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: \"
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: That isn't working inside a LUA trigger
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I should say, I'm capturing it in a set [\"] doesn't work
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: (\")(.*)(\")
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuala Tech: Kirby!
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: erm..." isn't a special character in regex anyway
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Attribute name must start with letter or underscore, but starts with ")" (Cannot load)
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Nuala does the Kirby <('')> ^('')^ <<('') ^('')^ ('')>> <('')> Dance!
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: you can just use "
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: <(o_o<)
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I'm still getting the same error...
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: It's ending the match="" section
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: that error doesn't sound like it has anything to do with a "...
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Turn off regexp and try to glob match it?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: LUA trigger  match="blahblah ["]* "  will end the match="" section and try to start a new trigger attribute
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: MUSHClient trigger, sorry
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: aaah
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: match='blahblahblah\"'
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: lol, I should mention, the idea is to capture mob long_names.  There are   '   as well as   "   in some mob names.. so switching will still break one or the other
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: use roomchars tags for that
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I am.. I capture everything just fine.. until I try to add quotes to the captures
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: just match on anything, .+
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Can't... it'll capture auras
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Must use regexp for this.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: ok, so (\(.+\))*(.+)
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Ok, so do (\(G\)|\(R\)|etc)? .* ([TARGET])?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: hmm, that won't work if there's parentheses in the mob's name though
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Sure it will
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: .* is too greedy, it'll capture too much.  lol  There's no workaround.. I just need to find an alternate means for the double quotes character..
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: if escaping it doesn't work, your lua parser sucks
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Write a trigger in mush with a " and a ' in it, and export it, see how it changes the xml version to accomodate.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I didn't write the code, lol... it's MUSHClient.  Ummm isn't  "  the same as something like &quot
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I didn't write the code, lol... it's MUSHClient.  Ummm isn't  "  the same as something like &quot; or something like that?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: That's a good idea, Cheez
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: nods, &quot and &dquot iirc
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: yeah, that would probably get it past the parser actually, but i dunno if it'll match it after
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: if not, it's a worthy bug to write to gammon about
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: ahh, that's it... have to use &quot; inside the match attributes.  Thanks for the suggestion
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Np
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: will it match it now though?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I'm testing
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Yep.  Works just fine.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: cool, will remember that
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Can use single quotes without a problem, but MUSH version of double quotes must be  &quot;
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Could be
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: is there a way to bypass this "download entity too large" error for my blackberry? i'm trying to download v6 but i dont have the usb to my computer
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: V6?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gruagach Tech: os 6.0
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: or the new version of the blackberry
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gruagach Tech: are you downloading from the website,desktop manager or your phone
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: yeah v6.0.2
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gruagach Tech: easiest way is download blackberry desktop manager
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: trying to download from my phone
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: i know gruagach :( but i dont have the usb... lol
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gruagach Tech: ooo
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gruagach Tech: lol.. umm
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: i'm unintentionally making my life hard for myself
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gruagach Tech: go buy one for $3 at any pc supply store
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gruagach Tech: I don't think you can ota that update to be honest
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: oh. well figured i'd try since i had 1 gb free internet usage a month.. might as well i thought
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mars Tech: anyone know if there
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I know if.  It's easy.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mars Tech: if there is way to reset a cmud maps dimensions back to the original length/width
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: But do you know if there?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mars Tech: sorry had to jump into another window to calculate postage forgot to finish sentance
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Entopee :P
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: there is no way to arbitrarily set map dimensions in CMud.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mars sniffs sadly.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mars Tech: well poo
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: you CAN, however, choose the Zone|Refresh menu option to force a recalculation, which will set the boundaries to just beyond the farthest rooms to the left, top, right, and bottom.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mars Tech: well what i'm trying to do is set the map back rooms back to even length apart all in straight lines without having to do 3000+ rooms manually per continent
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mars Tech: when I mapped a few of the continents i pulled/pushed individual rooms around to make the names match up for areas that have multiple entrances.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mars Tech: now with areas being removed, or redone, it's gonna be a pain shifting the map rooms around, considering i can't get it all to fit in one screen
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mars Tech: so it's in good order again
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witblitz Tech: hey their.. something happend and my input font changed. how do i change it back.. and sorry using mushclient
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witblitz Tech: nvm i just reloaded defaults
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RagingFury Tech: is it just me or is microsoft excell completely worthless?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: It's just you.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Techno Tech: just you
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: Few programs are completely useless.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magish Tech: It's FANTASTIC once you manage to learn it.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Techno Tech: excel is actually pretty powerful
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: the business world loves it.. you can do charts graphs all the stuff that gives managers a boner
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RagingFury Tech: is there a freeware open source program thats actually recognizes friggen numbers?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: One of the few products Microsoft was right on
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RagingFury Tech: because when i try to multiply two values, it doesn't execute
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: you have to create formula in one cell that combines to other cells
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: Sounds like a user error to me, not a problem with Excel.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RagingFury Tech: did that, sum(bleh*bleh)
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: You don't have to create a formula which combines cells, but you do have to do your multiplication properly.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: ...
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: sum isn't multiplication.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RagingFury Tech: ok, so in e2 i have 862.11 and in e3 i have .0135333, and f2 i have =e2*e3. and I get #VALUE
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RagingFury Tech: what am I doing wrong
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RagingFury Tech: besides everything
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: are both the other cells set to number?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awq Tech: fourier transformation?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: Did you click on the warning message and see what the error is?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RagingFury Tech: you know what, for some reason my computer is set to european style numbers, so my 862.11 wasn't real, it needed to be 862,11
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RagingFury Tech: i'm stupid
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: ...
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RagingFury Tech: and this might have been my problem with the other things i've been trying to do for the last hour
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RagingFury Tech: sorry guys i won't bother unless i have a real problem now
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shazar Tech: any ideas on a good non laggy remote access program so I can play mud away from home? lol
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: there aren't any.  The very nature of remote access means you are adding lag on purpose.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Now why would you do that instead of connecting directly?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shazar Tech: hmm eg playing from iphone etc
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shazar Tech: and so I can keep the client settings I normally use i suppose..
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Techno Tech: copy the client directory to a flash drive?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Techno Tech: on nvm, missed the iphone part
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: anyone know a ballpark % degredation in speed from a PC-WiFi Router-Cable modem ethernet connection vs. just directly from the modem-pc ? 25%
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: your question is not meaningful
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: well, is there an average on how much slower a hardwirted connection becomes with an additional layer ? 
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: where do you live? how fast is your cable modem?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: what kind of wifi?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: florida 24Mbs
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Veck, are you answering for Mushambo?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: i just wanted to brag about my awesome connection
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Texas, 25mbps stated
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: you can get a full length movie in less then 20 minutes
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fiendish yawns at Veck.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: what kind of wifi router?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Which means I get about 13 with a direct connection...goes all the way down to 3-4 if I plug in via the wifi router...just curious if that's typical...seems high 
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: shall I ask a third time?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Linksys wrt54g
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: if your 802.11g wap so significantly reduces your performance, then you've likely got wicked signal interference
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awq Tech: anyone tried out goosh.org?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Is there a way to have the mapper open doors when using any of the mapper speedwalk commands? (Aard Mush client)
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: use a cexit to open doors?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awq Tech: actions responding to the doors?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: But will the cexit work? Because I'm not technically going anywhere
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Do I do mapper cexit open n
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: use a cexit like open n;n
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: you can stack commands
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Ah, ok - thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awq Tech: how do you pop out a semi-colon in texts here?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Have to change your delimiter in-client
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: same way you get  use two of them.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awq Tech: kk
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: same way you get @, use two of them.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awq Tech: [:@w
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: just use two of it.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awq Tech: [:r
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awq Tech: [:r;
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: is there any type of colour code you can use in a string that will be parsed in the print function for lua in mushclient?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: or is the only option to use colourtell
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: You can use ColourNote
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: mm, same, but i want something that can be manipulated again with the various string functions
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Ah...I wasn't ever able to find anything like that, sorry.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: ansinote?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn shakes his head.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i'm looking for something where i could create s string, with various colour codes, manipulate it with string functions, then finally print it
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i don't think there is anything like that in mush...
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ok :/
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awq Tech: that reminds me of something I would love to do with a client, but now I forget again
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shiruyumi Tech: Anyone able to help quick with some java programming?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: you could redefine it as a shadow variable
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: mis, but you got it
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: i have a sql DB with a field that has a a value that repeats but i only want to show the value once not multiple times, is there a way to do this with php?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: distinct
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: you don't have to do it in php
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teapie Tech: try adding DISTINCT keyword to your query?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: the website i want to use it for is coded in php thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: yes but you can modify your SQL such that you don't have to do anything in your php code anymore
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: yeah use distinct for your query, and it will only come out once
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: do a select distinct in your SQL
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: with select distinct can you use multiple fields?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: yes, you can select distinct(var), var, var
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: thanks i was trying && insted of ,
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: np =P
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Does cmud have a command to display text in colors other than ANSI?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Can't find anything suggesting that it does.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: doest cmud support the new xterm colors?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: no sir
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: damn
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: nods, what I thought too :(
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: how do you mean?  I can see them.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: so my colorsets got reset for no reason
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: can see them, but like, not properly or whatever...or at least it doesn't display correctly in mine when I turn them on...and someone said it didn't work on boards
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: haven't researched it, sounded like it was a known issue by zugg
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: they seem to only display the 16 basic colors + gray
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: huh.  well, 'color 256-2' shows a whole host of colors for me in cmud.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: nods, seems like about what I saw, and things were flashing that shouldn't have been
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: did you type xterm first?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: yup
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: whoops silly me cheez
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: and the text that is shown when it's turned on isn't shown in orange, just blinking white
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: mine was orange
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: mine works!
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: but yeah, haven't messed with it, I could be wrong
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: sorry bout that
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: my cmud xterm color works properly
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: good, glad to hear I was mislead by notes then, will take a look at why mine won't work, grin
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: lol
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: 256 colors is kickass :)
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: now this will work anywhere i can put a color code right
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: nods
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: hmm....well, now that you mention it, it doesn't seem to be completely working. :)
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: sexmobile!
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Tag is @x### where ### is anything from 000-256
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: and it can do ugly stuff like this.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: color 178 for instance (orange?) works with 'echo', but not gtell.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: works for me
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: I'ma just go mush after I get to SH, no sense fighting much longer with cmud
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: too much nifty work being done there and such
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: ftalk works, though.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: lol i tried 178 it with xterm off and it was this color was weird
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: test
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: hmm....ok, tech works for me too. ;)
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: i also use the 256 colors in some of my scripts using <color <colorname>>
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: those have always worked for me.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Killianna Tech: can someone help me? i was wondering how can i load the VI map attatchment for the map of Kerofk from my computer
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Killianna Tech: it gives me programs to open it up with but im not sure which to choose
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: sorry, dunno
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox smacks Redryn out of his boots with a sign reading "NO !!"
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: we don't know
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Please just go
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: anyone use mush/styles table for triggers?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: what?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: for some reason my styles table is giving me really weird values
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: "backcolour"=29314800  "text"="You get "  "length"=8  "style"=4  "textcolour"=442745336
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I doubt it
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: what's wrong with that?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: is that a valid colour?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: lua colors are integers
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: wait
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: that's a lot of digits
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea..
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i used rgbcolourtoname, it does give a colour, but it's wrong
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: that function is worthless anyway
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ah.. i copied that script from your chat window thing :p
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: in any case, this is the pattern it's suppose to match, not sure if it affects it: ^(?!(.* receive(?:s|) d* experience point(?:s|).|(.*) receive (.*) bonus experience points(?:.*)))
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: rgbcolortoname is only meaningful if the color has a name
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: what is this for?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: match anything that appears after gaining exp
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: trying to gag exp gained in groups and consolidate to 1 line
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: why do you need colors?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so i can print the exp gained above this line matched
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: then recreate the line that was matched underneath
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: just printing consolidated line will appear one line down, which looks weird to me!
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: first of all your pattern is garbage
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Farkyss goes, 'Redryn just got PWNED!'
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: that shouldn't change how the styles table gets outputted right? :p
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: give me a proper pattern that works and I'll test it for you
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what do you mean by 'works'? it fires properly for me
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I don't believe you. your pattern explodes every time my prompt comes up
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it's supposed to. it should match /anything/ that is not 'you receive blah exp points'
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: that's disgusting
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Farkyss giggles at himself -- he must be nervous or something.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: of course i only enable it after seeing the receive blah exp points :p
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: which specific line matches that has bad colors?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: You get 5,131 gold coins from the unholy corpse of a sly fox.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: wtf
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox sticks Redryn in a garbage can and rolls him away!
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: mmm, garbage
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: what, only a sly fox?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: how rude!
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: well, that's the last mob i killed
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox looks at Redryn and mutters something nasty under his breath.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but so far all the money lines have given me errors
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i didn't have a problem with quest complete line
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: sec, lemme scroll up
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: Congratulations hero. You have increased your powers! gave me a "textcolour"=12632256
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: 1:   "backcolour"=0   "text"="You get "   "length"=8   "style"=0   "textcolour"=12632256
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: works fine for me
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: 12632256 is correct? :p
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: it's white
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: hmm
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: granted I just triggered on You get .* coins from...
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea, the problem seems to be with this trigger
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: because i've used the styles table in other ones without much problem
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: without any problem even
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: with this trigger though, that getting gold line shows as orange on bright pink background ):
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: should be arrested for crimes against colour
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: match="^(?!.* receive(?:s|) \d* experience point(?:s|)\.)"
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: can try that trigger, though it would trigger on practically everything too :p
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: does it also exhibit this behavior?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yes
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: works fine for me
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: echo @wYou get @Y6,178@w gold coins from the unholy corpse of a bandit.@w ?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: it works fine
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you're doing something wrong other than the capture
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i'm starting to think so too
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: the weird behaviour occurs if the line starts with you get
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I blame something you're doing
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i have a feeling another script is messing with it
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: ugh. bedtime
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: somehow
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: thanks for the help
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ok. there was another script that triggered on the same line that was screwing it up somehow. I don't know why.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: just have the gq bot script trigger on something else!?!?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox snuggles up to Redryn.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: sweeeeeet. now i have deluge connected to my home seedbox as a thin client :')
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: honest to god: wtf is wrong with my macbook? It's been working like a dream for about a year now, and just yesterday it suddenly started lagging
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: and widgets manager keeps freezing
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: it's an apple product, don't expect too much.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: I downloaded two new widgets but I deleted them (they weren't good) and now it's running like crap
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: Kurojiryuu, I'd take an apple anyday over a PC
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: might still be in the plist
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: plist?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Linux. It's what works. :)
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: property list.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: a reboot usually helps?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: so you'd be willing to pay twice the amount for the same hardware? I see =D
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: how do I access the property list?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Linux: either it works or not. Rarely inbetween. :)
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: repair permissions and check the disk and all that mumbo jumbo
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: Kurojiryuu, have you tried to use a mac for a longer (preferrably over 1 day) at a time?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: what gramdel said works too
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: I worked on one.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: i still think linux is evil. lulls you into a false sense of security thinking it wont crash so you caught off guard when it does. i prefer windows. i know its gonna crash so am always prepared for it
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: Well I think OSX10 is the best system I've ever used, coming from having using all the windows systems from 3.1 to vista
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Linux never crashes! It's always a problem caused by lack of experience.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: And I love how I've never had a problem with this computer. Now it's acting like crap. I'm treating it wrong. :/
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: Evidently its not as stable as XP then. I agree Vista was bad, but win7 is okay.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: XP's a joke
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: no ME was the joke
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: oH god yes :D
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: wasn't very funny tho
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: Windows RG
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: ReallyGood edition
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: i've heard good things about windows mojave
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: Mojave is almost like mohawk, and indians kick ass
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: thing i dont understand is why the **** does an operating system need over a gb of ram???
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I've actually used windows 1.0, back in -86 or so. Completely unusable.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: why not, ozu?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: Windows 1.0 sounds hardcore
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: when computers come with 3-4 gigs of it
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: might as well make use of it
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: seriously win xp idle sat at about 200mb on my system. change os. nothing else and it idles at 1gb? 
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: believe it or now, high ram usage actually makes the os faster
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: Ozu, you seem like the kind of person who builds up a computer from scratch? wink
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: microsoft likely believes in sloppy programming
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: an OS that doesn't use all your ram is bad
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: and apple doesn't?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: There isn't even a GUI for mouse acceleration on a mac.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: i don't have an issue with ff taking up 1 gig of ram since i still have plenty of it available
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: that's why i have the ram sticks installed - so that the software could use it
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: if implemented properly yes it can create massive speed advantages but when last did ms do anything properly. i have an issue with it just using ram for the sake of using ram and then falling over as there isnt enough ram for an app to use. would rather go back to the old dos days when the os was small and used almost no ram and let the flippen apps sort themselves out
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: well, you can strip down the standard install
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: microsoft. the official home of bloatware
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: a big problem is that programmers today only learn languages with implicit memory management like java
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: they don't even know how much memory their programs use
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: lol, java eats all the ram it can find
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: 16 gigs? no problem, java will take care of it
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Is there a way to set/restrict Java's memory quota?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: nods
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: i would switch to linux as i honestly do believe it to be better than anything ms has released since ms-dos 3.0 but i just couldnt be arsed learning what basically seems like a new programming language just to get a flippen modem to work
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: no os is ideal
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: if linux gets its driver and hardware installation issues sorted then ms is doomed is my prediction
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: modem? What's this, 1995? :)
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: there is no universal "good" os
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: it all depends on your goals
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Ozu: a lot of devices work fine without issues on Linux.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien is agreeing with that Dagnir person again...
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: altho bashing microsoft is really popular
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: still
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: It always is.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: they get the flac even when they put out great products
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: flak*
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Though I do a lot less of it now. :)
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: MS actually do make some good products.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: sadly i use a 3g device from huaweii. have tried on 3-4 different versions of ubuntu and no flippen dice. the seriously funny part is that when asking for advice i get told to get the drivers from the internet. ummm getting on the internet is the problem heh.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: How does windows 7 pro compare to win Xp pro?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: All of them are HW though. Like mice, keyboards and some gaming stuff.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: their latest desktop software is great. w7, mse, windows firewall
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarquil Tech: dagnir you said all that with a straight face
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: 7 is better than xp in some ways. worse in others
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: worse in what way?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: rumor by nonwindows users is that Win7 is bloated compared to WinXP
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dagnir shrugs helplessly.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: it's usually the people who don't upgrade their hardware
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: What I really dislike with MS is the lack of stuff coming with the OS. How am I supposed to use an OS that comes without a compiler?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: for some reason my copy has issues with office 2007. and im not the only one. theres a kb article on it. it randomly sets the ms word exe to run as admin. you can then open a doc from inside word but not by double clicking the doc
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: i haven't used ms office for half a decade, i think
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: so if someone mails me a .doc, i gotta save it, open word and then go file open to view it until i go remove the run as admin option
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: the computers at school have that problem, it's really annoying
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: use a later version of office? 
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: but w7 = bloat talk is bull. cmon, the os came 11(!) years after the xp. i don't understand why people expect it to use the same amount of resources
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: office2010 has no issue with that
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: w7 is a great os if you run it on modern hardware like a sane person would
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: myrkul in the office directory, go to properties of the ms word exe and check for the run as admin checkbox. 90% chance thats the issue
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: yeah, that works great once, then as soon as you reboot it resets :P
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: There is another issue. How is the OS going to be secure if you need to run half your programs as admin?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: i can't fix their computers cause of the deep freeze, and the techs can't be bothered to fix a small problem like that on a few hundred computers
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: of course, you wouldn't want to use anything below ultimate tho
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: well, at least its not as bad as excel on mac, where you can't copy datetime formatted text without the values changing.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: you don't myrkul
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: it's not ms's fault - it's the people who write the software
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: hmm?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: assuming their soft can write anywhere they damn please
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: w7 and it's *nix-like security is great
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: i don't what?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: i have no idea about corporate environments tho
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: thinking it may be time to just bite the bullet and move over to *nix
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dagnir shrugs helplessly.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: if you like the software available to you, why not?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: many of my customers are just now moving to W7
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: i, for one, don't like linux desktop. i run linux on my servers and it's great
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: mainly because they're moving to newer hardware too
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dagnir nods.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: xp hardware support sucks
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: The choice is yours, as always. Just read the backlog about your huawei stick, sorry about that. :P I don't have much experience there either.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Didn't have problems getting a surf stick to work on my Ubuntu, though.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Don't remember the make of it.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: what does "Erase free space" do?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the amount of microsoft bloat is outpacing the amount of hardware
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: divide by zero?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: also, linux audio support is crap. it doesn't support my external soundcard, the onboard sound output is terrible. i can't use my favourite soft like foobar2k, notepad++ etc
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: give us an example, xyliz. i don't see the bloat
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: erase free space = make free space unrecoverable
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: so that the deleted files are proper-deleted
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: how many more CDs to hold Win7 than WinXP
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dagnir buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: ...
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: we're not talking about disk space...
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: Xyliz, does a game of this age fit on a floppy?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: windows 7 only takes up a tiny % of a modern hard drive
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: but only because modern harddrives are 100x to 1000x bigger these days
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: yay for idiots who expect a new os fit their old hardware
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kurojiryuu rapidly nods twice at Dagnir, in complete agreement.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: xp takes more resource than w95. boo-hoo
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: seriously, get with the times.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: and oh sweet jesus - w95 is full of bloat compared to w3.1
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: interestingly enough, I find it more of a hassle running really old games on win xp/7 :p
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: damn you, microsoft, damn you!
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: dosbox performance seems to vary quite a bit between games
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: actually i disagree with that. why should upgrading an os require upgrading hardware. going from ubuntu 9 to ubuntu 10 doesnt require more resources as the os is written to take into account people who cant just buy new pc equipment when they feel like it
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dagnir hides his face in his palm after seeing what Ozu did.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: because the new os has more features, and better graphics?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: its perfectly reasonable to exp[ect the high end features of an os to only kick in if the hardware support for them is there
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: w7 came out a DECADE after xp. get a clue
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: in a business/commercial setting, one of the main drivers is security updates/patches
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xyliz used to look at the compare speeds of MsDos COMP.EXE from version to version -- later versions doubled the size and halved the speed
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: yes because it is reasonable of ms to assume that everyone on the planet has a 2gb top of the range video card and they upgrade them every 2-3 months??
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: huh?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: my intel gma runs aero just fine
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: not that i have it turned on
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: no it isn't if you don't have reasonable hardware stick to older versions
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: but seriously - how can you whine over modern operating system requiring modern hardware?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shazar Tech: my 3 yr old laptop runs win7 just fine.. wish I had  2gb gpu though!
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: yes dagnir it did come out a decade after. however i bought a laptop 2 weeks before 7 came out. it came with xp. but under what you saying i should buy a new one because this one runs xp fine and its wrtong to assume it will run 7 fine?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: my punch card machine won't run win7 :(
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prattler Tech: you can, because the hardware still works, but you can't use old software due to security reasons
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: Ozu it should run win7. did you even try?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zarquil complains about lack of paperterminal support these days
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: umm im using 7 pro atm
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: so you bought an xp laptop and got upset because it's not good enough to run 7? great job
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: a lot of that extra bloat may be from lazy programmers using inefficient C++ instead of C
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jhav twitches nervously.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: that is if the laptop has up to date hardware at the time it was bought.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: hell, w7 works fine even on a prescott with ht if you put some extra ram in it
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: core2duo with 4gb ram it runs 7 perfectly fine thank you. i just disagree with the concept that unless you bought the top of the range hardware after the os was released then forget about using it
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: i don't want neutered os just because you can't afford an entry-level laptop
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: microsoft programers likely do not understand what is going on at the assembler level, so they likely choose inefficient program designs
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: you don't even need top of the range hardware, just a normal modern laptop will do.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: normal, cheap, entry-level laptop even
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: it's not like you need an i7 for it
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: ahh cheap in which country? 
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: cheapest laptop here is a celeron which is about the cost of 2 months salary for the average person
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: wow where are you
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: boo-hoo
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: and where is here?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: cry me a river
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: and you expect software development to be aimed at the lowest denominator?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: hell, you can buy a desktop that's capable of running w7 for less than 100 euros here
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: south africa. you looking at 4000 rand odd for a semi decent celeron laptop. latest figures indicate an average monthly salary in the country of 3000 rand. 
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: ok, and you think you have RIGHT to run the latest os on your crap hardware?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: and so you expect people to create new innovative cutting edge software for someone who is earning average pay?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: oh btw 800 of that 4000 is for the os
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: run a lightweight linux then. or xp
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: no-one forces you to upgrade to w7
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: microsoft deliberately chose bloated inefficien software design to (1) discourage reverse engineering (2) discourage copying (3) provide an excuse for upgrading (4) force captive users to upgrade hardware
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: great. lets petition microsoft into making w8 compatible with 1GHz celerons then
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: no great stuff. run xp then. then the rest of the world must stop complaining if viruses and botnets coming from third world countries suddenly tripple as the company releasing the os no longer provides patches for holes in their software
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: not that microsoft is providing a great, free antivirus for xp
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: so you don't pay, and expect service? This world isn't free.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xyliz suspects that microsoft employees are secretly providing the how-to-write-viruses manuals to the hackers
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kurojiryuu suspects Xyliz is a brain dead zombie.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: i think you should consult necroshine, xyliz
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Xyliz knows because he is one of the MS employees doing it.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: i think this conspiracy theory is as old as w95
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: all it does is makes you sound like an idiot
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Kuro: a lot of good things are for free. Twitter, Facebook...
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Aardwolf...
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: those are based on freemium business models
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: and microsoft is obviously not employing that business model
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: fb isn't really free. the thing is that /you/ are the product ;)
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Nah, as long as I am not paying, it's fine. :P
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Twitter intends to go commercial eventually if not already
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Well, as long as I don't have to pay, I don't care.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Dagnir: with regards to FB, well, there is that problem. But if you're paranoid enough, you can think of many other ways your information can get sold, right?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: a comedy channel newstalk show interviewed the founder of Twitter -- perhaps anticipate twitter with commercials coming soon
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: i guess
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: i just think it's a good idea not to have illusions
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Open heart surgery was once thought to be illusion.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: i don't get your point
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: they run test projects in the background on facebook all the time, so it's not the end program you're seeing, only a front - what they're testing is probably often mysterious, and to delete your account doesn't remove your information from their database, plus you have to hunt through google links in order to find a delete account button
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Until something comes to pass, it is more or less an illusion.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: you basically sign away all of your personal information upon using it, unless you think them beyond subpoena's by people with money
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: same thing with google - we're the product
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: and i'm fine with it, since i get great services
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Surely it is easier than that to delete your FB account, Necroshine.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: those surgeries are expensive and those that require those surgeries are either defective genetically and or were enjoying bad dietary lifestyles
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: the google android ai systems they got running are interesting, drawing a holistic diagram of everybody who uses it and pattern matching through supercomputers to individualize a surfing experience upon most internet applications
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: they can really mess with your mind through it, cause you expect a non-personalized experience not mirroring your thoughts, but your words in stead
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Oh wait, did you mean *delete* delete or just deactivate?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: i seen plenty of instances where things pop up that i never typed in a application, and have no reason to be there beyond somebody messin with my mind or else artificial intelligence programmed to do that
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: And what is wrong with AI giving you suggestions on what you might need?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: this is great reading, if you're paranoid about your privacy: http://xkcd.com/792/
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: deactivate is what i meant by implication of them storing all data you gave them through their site, even if your account is then disabled it still exists for their dissemination
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: All xkcd is great reading.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: true
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: but that link fits the topic ;)
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: what's the problem with suggestion's that you don't want to have?  they charge you for them at accounting offices, is it charity coming from google?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: They can profit from my account as long as I don't come to harm. It's the Internet. All the stuff you put there should be expected to be public.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: If you want privacy, keep it off the Internet.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: so can i request that every piece of information about me is disconnected from all subvert, obvious and government networks which have outlets to the internet?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: You can found a new country with no links to the Internet. There's plenty of small islands in the pacific you can buy.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: cos not, why even bother saying keep it off the internet, when they require basically every business or personal transaction of today to be filtered through it?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: You'd probably have to find it with Google Maps though.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: watch some tv, see their most relationships started over the internet statistics commercialized and things like that, got a ledged record of human interactions to refer to when studying someboyd's life
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I'm referring to things like FB comments, tweets, and blogs.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Frankly, I'm surprised and disappointed you and Xyliz are both online at the same time. I'd have thought there was only one such person around on Aard and you were alts.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: is someone here savvy with mushclient
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: me and xyliz have about as much in common as a rattlesnake and a dream of a rattlesnake
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Trurien, if they were alts, how do you explain that Xyliz is usually coherent, and Necroshine is usually incoherent
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: neither of you makes sense half of the time :P
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: so speaking about yourself in third person shows coherence?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: LOL
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Wait... so you dream of being Xyliz?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I'm not sure I can understand that analogy without resorting to heavy hallucinogens.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: But, all kidding aside, I just wanted to say that it's pretty weird trying to understand what you both say at times.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: sounds like a conspiracy started by the catholics to take over the world to cover up the fact that elvis is still alive hanging out with tupac chicken is bad for you if you don't cook it
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox beams with pride.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: there we go, I think that was a winner...everyone just went silent :(
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Don't gloat just yet, I was in another window anyway... and there wasn't much of a conversation to kill :P
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: I was trying to be their third alt :/
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I was almost going to call you that, but if you can even attempt to call yourself that, then you're automatically disqualified :P
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: anyone using Bast's plugins? Recently it keeps crashing everytime I request a quest, any idea why?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what is crashing? does mushclient close, or do you get errors in the main window?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: mushclient closes
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Do you log, and if so, are there anything in them?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: no, I don't keep logs, but all I do is request a quest, and then mushclient closes
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: There should be an error message showing up too.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: well, without an error message, it is hard to troubleshoot, the first thing I would do, is disable plugins until you figure out which one it is
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: not if the client itself crashes
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kurojiryuu nods.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: waiting for qtime to go down
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what happens if qrequest early
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: erm, nothing?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: tried the test trigger function?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what happens if you echo what a qrequest supplies
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Kuro: use Game->Test Trigger and copy/paste your last quest request in there, then you can keep trying it until you figure out the problem plugin
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: yeah I just did, and it didn't crash
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: sounds like either an alias problem, or gmcp related
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: qtrl
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i'm guessing gmcp
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: my alias just does home;q request
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: hmm, if that didn't crash it then I would disable broadcast_quest and miniwin_quest/miniwin_events the next time you request a quest and see if either of those are the problem
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kurojiryuu nods at Bast.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: bast, fixed it, reinstalled miniwin_quest and broadcastQuest before requesting one
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Good, glad it was something that easy :)
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: thanks for the shiny plugins =D
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I wonder what happened with Redryn's color style issue
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: he fixed it somehow
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samar Tech: i messed something up.. the map is output in the main window instead of the map window.. how do i correct that?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: tags map on?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samar Tech: it seems irrelevant, tags map on or off
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: It's not
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: That's what catches the map
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samar Tech: on
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samar Tech: my global tags option was off.. thank
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: bast, you still here?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yes
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: the crashing seems to be related with the miniwinquest and broadcast quest, I disabled them and there isn't a crash
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: after that reinstall that one time it worked, it crashed again
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: could it be the database that keeps track of quests
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it could be, disable statdb, reenable the other two and see if it still crashes
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kurojiryuu nods.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: bast i got this error after I reinstalled and enabled broadcast quest and miniwin quest
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: http://pastebin.com/vqY7wKX3
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: How do I define a variable in lua?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I tried just PotsQuaffed = 1, but it didn't work
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: How do I NOTE a variable in LUA?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Note PotsQuaffed doesn't work
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gravy Tech: how to toggle {chan ch=barter} ?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: tags channels off
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gravy Tech: ty
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: okay.. somehow both the top and bottom boundaries of my mushclient have expanded beyond the edge of the screen... how do I resize it back so I can see them?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: "aardinit"?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: unknown command...
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: hmm... one sec, I'll find it
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: i think it's aardreset...
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: nope.. not that either :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Try initaard?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: I think there must've been some accidental hotkey or sometihng that expanded this thing
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: nope. not that either, it seems
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: aardinit, initaard, etc.. all got set thru the client to aard, by the way
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: it was on that little popup the first time you open the client... :P
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: that's not much help i guess
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: heh.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: let me step into my little time machine here...
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: I suppose I could get the task manager to lower the boom, and see if the next incarnation is back down to size... :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: You're using the aard_layout.xml plugin?  It's "resetaard"
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: ah, i was close :P
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: hm.. rseetaard only shrunk the main output window.. had no effect on anything else
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Ohhh.. the whole window is resized.. I see
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: with the window in focus: Alt->SpaceBar, then select maximize
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: heh.. and that main output window is partly behind the others and doesn't want to be dragged.. fortunately, I can still see the communication log window
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Just gotta find the hotspot on the bottom-right of the main screen
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: alt spacebar has no effect on the overall display or the main output window
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: time for the task manager hammer
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I don't understand, is the entire mushclient window resized, or is the output window resized?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: big hammer worked.. I can even see the stop-maximizing button on the top of the frame
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Anyone know what line I need to look for in changing the number of bars in the Health Bars on Aardwolf MUSHclient?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Anyone here use the Bast spellup plugin? Are any spells that are practiced/learned showing up as not so in the plugin?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Never had a problem here..
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Hmm... Sense anger and inertial barrier are both showing as Prac % 1, and Absorb and Timeshifting are both turning up as Not learned
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Hmm, try quitting and reopening MUSH to let it reload everything
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Ok
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Restarting seems to have worked, thanks a lot
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: how do i turn off bigmap update for mush mapper?
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: what?
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: bigmap update is a command. you don't turn it off.
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: i walked onto a continent and typed bigmap update
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: and?
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: can i not have it show though?
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you mean you don't like the bigmap view? type bigmap help for options.
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you probably want bigmap off if you don't like that view
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: though I can't imagine why
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: it's far more useful than seeing mapper tiles on the continents
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: okay i think i got it, thanks!
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Siko, are you around?
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: guess not
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Hmm, bast statmon is showing me as having 7280 pups - I wish...
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: is there a way to retrieve what error caused your client to crash?
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: is there a fix for the communication log to show xterm colors and not numbers?
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: if you're using the aardwolf mushclient, get a newer version
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: in mushclient 4.72
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: what version is your chat capture? (see the plugin list)
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: my works fine with the xterm colors, I have the latest version
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nebmaatre Tech: I'm using the set of mudlet enhancements I found on the wiki...how do I get rid of the prompt displaying every tick?
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: type autotick
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nebmaatre Tech: thanks!
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: eh wait, do you want the --> TICK <-- to be gone too?
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: or just the info after it
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nebmaatre Tech: just the info
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: is there zmud function to find last char in a string
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: there is right in cmud, not sure if it exits in zmud
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: %right that is
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Namaste Tech: I am trying to play on a netbook but the view is awful... and suggestions?
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: talk to turie
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GuardianZack Tech: dont play on a netbook.
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Namaste Tech: turie is not on
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Namaste Tech: anyone else?
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Namaste Tech: how to I creply really?? you have the full client loaded though, I bet
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Namaste Tech: mis
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Namaste Tech: my stat info at the bottom of the screen is too muc... using java client... how do i reduce it to just the basics... hp... movement...
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Namaste Tech: it seems to be listing my strstats too,,,
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: when i play on my netbook, i just remote connect to my other computer
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: so i can get the effect of a really big resolution on a really small screen
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: font's tiny, but all the windows fit
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Namaste Tech: i have no
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Namaste Tech: i have no maps
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Namaste Tech: how do i stop seeing stats on command bar?
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: You want your prompt to disappear?
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: just type 'prompt'
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Namaste Tech: nooo.... using javaclienbt
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Namaste Tech: seeing stats plus hp and mana and movement
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Can't help you there, I can't even open the java client
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Namaste Tech: only want to see hp.. movement... and mana
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gawyn Tech: hrm....any reason all my plugins for mush stopped loading? mapper and all?
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gawyn Tech: sorry i got dc'd if anyone answered
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gawyn Tech: how do i turn this off? {invmon}7,549533994,-1,-1
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gawyn Tech: i see it when i use inventory items, i turned the inv tag off and still see it
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: invmon
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gravy Tech: see 'tags'
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gawyn Tech: awesome thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gawyn Tech: my mush client went haywire and had to reinstall so lost all my settings, etc.
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gawyn Tech: is there a way to turn off the map so you dont see it everytime you move?
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: automap
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gawyn Tech: thanks ent
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six Tech: can you gag on mushclient?
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I'm gagging right now
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six Tech: Y U NOT FUNNY!?
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: No, but seriously, yes, you can
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six Tech: how
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I have no idea, except I'm gagging
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I wasn't kidding around
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six Tech: man, morons.
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: The chat plugin is gagging the main output and showing it only in the commlog
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Not sure why you're calling me a moron when I just said I was serious
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Lemme take a look at the plugin
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Yup
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: <!-- Plugin "Gag" generated by Plugin Wizard -->
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Yeah - I'm sorry if you misunderstood me, because I misunderstood you
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: any web developers out there? got an issue with a frameset thats driving me dilly. 
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: does not compute. Frames are not a part of HTML4. :)
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: frames are dead
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: can you explain the problem?
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: frames are -almost- dead
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: designing a very static page for someone. got an iframe that is used to center the page regardless of resolution used. frameset loads a background image. then just used a frame to designate the banner and left / toc frames so the entire thing doesn't always reload. in FF the image shows through the frames as wanted but not in chrome/opera/ie. any clues on how to make a frame within an iframe transparent?
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: you shouldn't require frames to do what you've just suggested
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: just drop the frames and use divs and css
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: you're probably running into problems because you are mixing html versions and not following the standards
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: dagnir is right, a div with opacity set in the css would work
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: was worried that would be the case. been a long time since i did this so used frames since it was easiest and im not getting paid for it
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: oh well. time to start over i guess
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: thankee for the help
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: divs aren't so bad once you get used to them
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: divs are great once you get used to them*
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: though browser differences can annoy the crap out of you
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: easier to tweak css than frames
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: thats the issue im running in to now. site is working perfectly except that the bg image is missing in banner and toc. might just drop a solid colour in them as a bg and be done with it. dont have the energy for this
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: disgraceful :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: want to show us the site?
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: this is why i am NOT a web developer. 
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: i hate pages too
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: this holiday i need to learn jsf :-(
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: its not on the net yet dagnir. just doing it on local and then dropping it omn to the guys server for him.
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: it's all about the css if you have a solid cms
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: heh, that kind of rhymed
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: oh did i mention its a plain html site with maybe 2-3 php scripts. like i said ... static. the site its replacing was last updated 3 years ago
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: oh well back to the grindstone. thanks again folks
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: just rewrite the thing and use divs
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: and css for the layout. it's easier than messing with frames
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: divs is the way to go
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: why do i have designing webpages... rofl
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: a spin-off from designing women?
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: can you split a word in letters on zmud
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: does anyone know how to capture the error that causes Mushclient to crash?
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: look for a core dump and analyze it with a debugger
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: how do I look for a core dump?
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: you'd know if you knew how to use a debugger
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: are you running DrWatson or something
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: nope, just that my Mushclient crashes on a quest request now when it used to be okay before.
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prattler Tech: mushclient should not crash normally, disable scripting and all plugins and check if it's ok then
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: did not Bast suggest how to fix that
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prattler Tech: might want to disable triggers, too
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: erm, its not his plugins, apparently
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: I've been slowly disabling some at a time
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: but I was wondering if there was a way to capture what caused the crash
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prattler Tech: better disable everything and work from a non crashing setup
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: it might be issuing instructions to a defunk help system too, as the non-aard version does resulting in a in-program error which is resolved , but maybe windows 7 crashes at it, if that's what you're using
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: I'll see how that goes, but waiting every half an hour to test for a crash is kinda hard =(
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gawyn Tech: on mush if i entered a room number wrong how do i reset the alias function "map_goto"
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gawyn Tech: since it wont lemme use the mapper function now
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: close and open mush again
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: somebody encountered the same difficulty recently
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prattler Tech: Kurojiryuu grab quest request output from some other client (telnet) and then do testing within mushclient with menu: game -> test trigger
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: yeah I did, it works fine
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: it's not a trigger, it's something gmcp side which I have no clue about
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prattler Tech: yeah, so it must be gmcp
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: my triggers aren't causing the crash
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Bast suggesting reloading the minWindowsomething and a Windowbroadcastsomething module in mushclient
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: xyliz, mush crashed even without his plugins enabled
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Abelinc keeps logs of Tech
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prattler Tech: well at least you know that the plugins are causing the problem
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: yeah, slowly working my way through them
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: every 30 min =(
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: when did the difficulties appear -- likely something you did
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: yeah, I'm not too sure, that's the problem =(.
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: did you add triggers, change a prompt, change something
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: all I know is that without editing any of my plugins it started crashing one day.
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: type alias
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: yeah? there isn't an alias for quest or anything
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: perhaps added a mudside alias 
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kurojiryuu nods.
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: ah well, got to go now, thanks for the suggestions!
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: adding a client-side macro/alias/trigger with mismatched something 
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: perhaps changing to 256 colors
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: accidentally typing something that Aardwolf mistakes as a parameter change to something
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the new mudside change to aliases that interprets semicolons differently
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prattler Tech: heh, that's a long list, but colours might actually be it
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prattler Tech: he still needs to track the plugin anyway :)
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flat Tech: anyone mudding with an iPad? I'm looking for the best app.
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: anyone know of a good droid mud app?
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: torchlight
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: never used it, but it pops up every time someone asks that question
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Also the answer to "Anyone know of a good Diablo clone?"
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: nethack ?
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: borderlands, too
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dagnir slaps Ranrr.
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Oh, and I think Dagnir means Blowtorch
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Isn't nethack a diablo clone?
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: yeah, that. blowtorch
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: thats what im on
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: just checked, there are 2 mud clients available for droid
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: ranrr, google nethack
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: there's also andromud
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I _was_ joking.
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: sure you were
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: ill have to.check.the others out to compare
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I think Blowtorch is the general consensus.  What's wrong with it?
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: it's a phone client?
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: correct
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: anyway, it seems that blowtorch has some fancy features like buttons
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: nothing wrong at all actually
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: also mccp support
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: And 256 colors ;)
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: the buttons rock.and.the extra 2 qp is nice
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: in my day we didn't have no fancy 'smart phones.' we had stupid phones and we liked it!
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: yep carry your brick phone into the disco to be cool
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: so far.the only thing ive noticed is that when you type and need to backspace its not responsive
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: suitcase phones
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: so.sometimes.my.input.is.like.this.
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RagingFury Tech: mozilla has been shut down for like 5 minutes, but the music from the window i had open is still playing
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: hell of a buffer
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: lol
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RagingFury Tech: i'm kind of frightened
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: just close it in tskmgr
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thinkon Tech: is the plug in container still running?
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RagingFury Tech: yeah windows sent an error report on that
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RagingFury Tech: mozilla had dissappeared in task manager by that point. btw how do i know which SVC hosts/other general processes are evil?
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thinkon Tech: then end process on plugin-container.exe in task manager
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flat Tech: anyone using an iPad app to mud with and have a recommendation for me?
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: yea one sec
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: lemme think of what its called
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ranrr patiently twiddles his thumbs.
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Flat hums the Jeopardy theme song
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: iSSH
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: thats what I use
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flat Tech: tks cheez
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RagingFury Tech: whats an ipad
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: np
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RagingFury ducks defensively.
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: its pretty good sometimes can get annoying - but it overlays a partial transparent keyboard over the screen so you can see the mud and the keyboard at the same time
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/issh-ssh-vnc-console/id287765826?mt=8
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: aging sort of, just make you dont have a scvhost running :p
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: oops, forgot about color trigs
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RagingFury Tech: i count 8 svchost.exe
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: thats normal
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RagingFury Tech: and I think last time i tried shutting them down, there was a cascade failure
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: RagingFury just restart the damn computer :)
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: yeah, its used for running tnings on your pc
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: if it starts playing on bootup - then you should shoot it
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RagingFury Tech: oh the music stopped now, heh
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: or if it keeps playing after you shut it down - then its the radio
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RagingFury is nodding his head so wildly you wonder if it will fall off. No, you hope it will.
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RagingFury Tech: i just wonder sometimes what malicious software is running in the background whenever i look at the task manager on my parents comp
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: my parents have a pc at their place tgat turns itself on,I told them unplug it from the wall, if it turns on then...beat the living crap out of itm
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RagingFury Tech: lol
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samar Tech: i see all the maps line starting with - on my main window as well, with mushclient, the last version.
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gohaan Tech: is there a sound trigger to alert you theres a gquest in your level range?
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I use the theme from star wars.
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: haha epic
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nashville Tech: hello i need help
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GuardianZack Tech: nashville, just close the java and re open it and then login.
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GuardianZack Tech: its a color code syntax error in the scripting clashing with the client
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nashville Tech: i know that fixes it, but why does it happen everytime i log on
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nashville Tech: thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: perhaps you have xterm on?
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GuardianZack Tech: if he did that i dont think the game would show up at all, the clients on the site dont support xterm
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GuardianZack Tech: also nash, type 'protocol' and make sure that ansi is checked as on and nothing else for the web client. and type colorset normal.
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awq Tech: how u make ut always buttonvac?
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: has anyone bought the PlayBook yet
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: that the BB tablet?
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: Yes
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I heard it was not nearly as good as a Ipad.
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: Turie, I have an iPad 1 and an iPad 2, and I will drop both in a heartbeat for a PlayBook
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Sneak: That is rather interesting. How about the Xoom?
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: Turie, you like the Xoom?
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The specs I saw were better than the IPad hands down.
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I would love to get my hands on one to see if it is for real.
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: don't really like Android though
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: still would rather get a PlayBook :p
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Does anyone else notice that some barter messages are missed in the commlog? Completely gagged, but there's no notice (AardMUSH)
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: is it possible to remove an area from the mapper database and map it all over again?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: mapper purgezone is your friend
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Entopee: what version of aardwolf mushclient? https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Versions
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: thanks fiend
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: New enough so that bigmap is enabled
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Siko: purgezone works on keywords, so make sure you get hte area keyword right
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: what barter message?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: gotcha
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: mapper areas will show keywords for mapped areas. or areas keywords will show similar information.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: For example, I missed everything after Claddagh Ring in auction -h
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: what do you mean everything after?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: what exactly did you miss?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: could it be level thing? auction sethigh etc
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I have no messages in my commlog about the Amulet of Anubis, Steel Mace, or Crown of Swords
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: help auction
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: are you sure you didn't accidentally scroll up in the comm log window?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: make sure you have the capture window scrolled all the way down
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I have no sethigh's for auction sethigh
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: k
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I have it scrolled all the way down, it's moving as we speak
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I see
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: did you see a worn canvas satcheL?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Nope
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I just saw the rabbit's bite though
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Ah.  Yeah, it's your auction levels.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: then you have some weird auction level stuff set
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: But auction sethigh says
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: You do not currently have an upper limit set for auction levels.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: And I didn't see the satchel, but I saw the Claddagh Ring
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: type "auction set"
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Which are the same levels
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Try 'auction sethigh 291'
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: See if that fixes you up.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Ok, I put auction sethigh 291
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Saw that
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Hmm...
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: good. problem solved. :)
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: thanks Jhav.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jhav gallantly tips his hat.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I'll come back later if there are any more missed messages, thanks a lot
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Might be a bug with auction sethigh serverside because I was bidding on the Tir na n0g portal which is L100,
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: And there wasn't supposed to be a comma at the end of that
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: commas happen
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Every so often
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Griffi Tech: wrapped
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Griffi Tech: buttonset designs....
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I agree.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Griffi Tech: log
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: so aard'
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: so aard's mushclient has mapping stuff now?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: No
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Not for foxes
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: Quiet, pee.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Only for non-foxes
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dagnir can't remember any good furry jokes.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: From now on, I'm spelling your name with a lowercase letter first, just to be rude.  Just so you know.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: yup, for some time already
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: Drugs do that!
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dagnir gasps in astonishment.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: I was gone :/  Gonna make the switch today, but figured I'd see what you guys thought of it.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: that... makes sense
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Don't do it, it gives foxes cancer
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: Except for pee, anyways.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Well, on that note...
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: You should use it?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: the current map has the possibility to add custom exits as well, so you can run to a room through portals if you like
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: Yeah, just seems like a lotta neat stuff has been added there.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox nods.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: mapper portal [portal] is also really cool
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: But as I said - only for non-furry animals
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: My only concern then is that certain horrible level 42 vampire mages also appear to be using it.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: So obviously you should stay away from it
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: And not take advantage of features like shortest point through portals and clanportals
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: I have most of that in CMud already, grin ;)  Though courtesy other's work there.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Entopee goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: Sounds like I can replicate it and set it up myself though, which is kinda what I was going for here.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: can't move to mush before my gqbot is ported
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: Makes for a fun little techie project and all.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Mapping everything again will be a pain though, as you probably already guessed
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: Entopee told me I could use his gq bot script anytime, if I wanted.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox rapidly nods twice at Entopee, in complete agreement.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: i don't need a fancy mapper
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: btw, does mush have something similar to ctrl+s in zmud?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Of course, right after I mod it so that it triggers gquests with "gquest join;gquest leave"
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: Just makes things easier, in my case gonna be sitting quite long term with the new additions...so would like to get all SH stuff set up.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: Yes, you can type "bk entop" to activate that feature.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: Just type it into the mud.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox beams with pride.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: not sure what ctrl+s even did, grin
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: ahh, speedwalk list thing
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: just set up aliases or buttons or a dropdown list or something clever
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: You could kick me in the box, although it won't hurt as much as if I kicked you in the box
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: Like you could reach that high.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I don't have to reach, foxes are the lowest of the low
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: And the shortest of the short
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: psh, I'd kick your stupid little mage derriere!
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: anyways yeah, pee got me upset...thanks for the input, guys (and pee <3)
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: As if tiers mattered ;P
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: anyone have any idea on how to block/limit torrenting using a router?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: block ports
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: I upgraded to the new version on the website and a lot of my plugins won't work now. I'm also getting a timestamp on every single line in my main window. i removed the timestamp plugin, but it's still doint it
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: this fuckin time stamp shit
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: mis sorry
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: itsok pisses me off too
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Right click Commlog->Timestamp->No Timestamps ?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: I can't get rid of the timestamps in the main winow now that I upgraded to the lastest Aard package
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: timestamps are informative
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: also I'm getting a miniwin_stats run-time error when I start it up
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: are you able to quest without crashing
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: it never crashes, it's just extremely difficult to use
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: go-go zmud ftw ?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: how do I remove the time-stamps on mushclient?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: timestamps in the Communications Log?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: in the main window
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: no clue, I don't even know how you have timestamps in the main window
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: I upgraded to the new package
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: this is so annoying
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: could you paste to tech what you see in the mainwindow? an example of the timestamps
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: the timestamps are not selectable
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: lines with channel information on them are in blue, lines with triggers are in red
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: it's white text in front of a darker grey background "11:18:19 >"
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: lines with text have an ! instead of the >
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: for a trigger or alias, what is the sequence integer for?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Triggers with a lower sequence will be checked first. So if you have two triggers that could match on the same string, the one with the lower sequence will fire first.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: ah okay, thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: It also might be the only trigger that fires, unless you have "keep evaluating" enabled for the lower-sequenced one.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: If you're making plugins, don't count on that. A trigger in the world will still fire, even if a plugin has already matched against it, as far as I can tell.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: i have timestamps on every line in my main window and now there are blank lines between items in my inventory when I type inv. 
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: i would like to fix both issues, if possible
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Any linguists worked with CQP before? Or the tagged British National Corpus?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Guess not :D
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: nope 
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: in mushclient.. how cna i execute an alias from a trigger?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: Execute("aliasblahblah")
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: well that's easy! thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: is it hard to transfer your alises and mcros and area stuff to newest version of aardmushclient
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: not if you follow the instructions, if you don't it can be...
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: do u just copy and paste what you want, delete the rest, reload, then transfer what you copied and pasted?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: i guess i mean i have like 4 macros and maybe 2 alises i want to transfer, is it easier to just overwrite it and then recreate then to transfer?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: probably best you read the help on it and choose what yoou wanna do,I'm trying to find the link...
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: rock on
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: thanks :)
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: i think i have the link somewhere...
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: migration was pretty easy for me
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: just went file, import, aardwolf.mcl
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: did your map transfer?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/play/downloadmc.htm
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: ahh you just gotta copy the two map files over
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: which are...
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: .. yeah jsut read that link
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: cheers
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: that helps out a lot
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: if you follow that all is kept map,aliases,macros,stats...
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: nice
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: thanks again
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: how do you set mush so you keep the last command entered in the prompt?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: on Mushclient?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Shouldn't be too hard, I remember I was trying to find how to turn that option off way back when I used Mush.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Scrolled through all the options yet?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: for Mush, its Game->Configure->Command Autorepeat
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: nice, thanks a lot
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: configuring mushclient: how to stop f1 from pulling up the helpfile and instead run the macro assigned?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: dunno?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: file-world properties-input-macros
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: not the answer you're looking for, but not putting a macro on f1 will solve the problem ;)
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: from there I really don't know
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: mgrin :) thanks orogan and myrkul
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: so do i need to change the property of the f1 macro to replace instead of send now or something?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: hmm looking in to it
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: As far as I know, you can only override system hotkeys with LUA, not in the GUI.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: i did it somehow last version, but i updated to the new and just forget how
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Board personal me if you figure it out? :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: ill do my best to remember
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: if i had to guess, it's probably not an individual macro setting, more likely a global option in config somewhere that allows all macros to override the built-in keyboard shortcuts
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: yeah somewhere on the alt enter spot i think
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: raijon F1 and F6 are special you need to go to global pref - general
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: then check the F1 and F6 are macros
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: ok nice
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: thanks a lot
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: np
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: file->global preferences->general, check "F1, F6 are macros"
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Oh, 'twas already said
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: thanks Madcatz
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: networklayer.com screwed for anyone else?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: sided with another question of: is it possible to connect to aard avoiding them?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piccolo Tech: anyone know decent sites to get refurb at&t blackberries other than ebay
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: it's the monkeys
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: are there fat americans sitting on the routers or something?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: all my ip traffic is being filtered through 4 government router's now before taking the ordinary route
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: i must be pissing off the right people
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: mine is all going through NewYork1.Level3.net which is a bad sign
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'll add some spice to it..  Bomb goverment buildings
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 16 hops in all, and iextremely slow
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: now you've been red-flagged.. you're welcome
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: to get to kissmyass.com it took a turn through toronto2.level3.net then chicago1 and 2 then dallas1 4.69 and 3
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: then the planet
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: You think you got problems Tigernuts? I got average round trip time of 987 MS.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: all your databytes r belong unto us n stuffz for incriminatory purpoiises, while we fund the ballet that conducts the counter-arguements
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: i think it'll be fun to go to court or whatever they're trying to do to me
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: "865 ms   883 ms   929 ms  peer1.bdr01.tor.packetflow.ca" Yay!!!
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: i'll die for this land, somewhere overseas, if god could plate my freedom it's not for me
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: this intarwebs was invented by the military, by vulgarity we can include the x/y axis of politics and direct all contents towards their influence
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: i guess the internet is a socialist tool with tools of fascism included in it, and stuff (the facade of corporations)
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: what do you think?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i guess that's pretty accurate
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: I think i've remembered the answer to this.. but there is no mob info in GMCP is there?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: to prevent bots
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: You can get the percent of the mob you're fighting, and shops are marked in the mapper. But that's about it.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: well that makes sense!  thanks fastfinge.. you certainly seem to know your clients and aardwolf
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: can anybody help me on this, my zmud is totally screwed up
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TaffyKing Tech: Is there a way to erase some of these windows I have up?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Aardwolf-MUSHclient?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TaffyKing Tech: Mush
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Which windows do you want to remove?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TaffyKing Tech: The group info channel
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: mmm taffy
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TaffyKing Tech: I know right.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: ctrl+shift+p will bring up the plugins screen. Click Group Monitor to highlight, click disable, highlight Group Monitor again, and click remove.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TaffyKing Tech: Thank you very Much.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Welcome.
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: how do I use a mushclient stored variable in the alias?
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Check Expand Variables and use the (at) symbol in front of the variable name like @this
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: ah okay, thanks, was trying $ and % heh
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: anyone able to help me set up a trigger for when I get disarmed? I'm using MUSHClient, and have no clue what text to use as the trigger
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: erm * DISARMS you
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Why don't you just use the bast plugin?
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: or soemthing like that
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: ^DISARMS you and sends your * flying.
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: blast plug in? let me see if I have that one
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: ^DISARMS you and sends your (.*?) flying.
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: BAST, not blast - I think you can finger bast for the info
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: the text is * DISARMS you and you struggle not to drop your weapon!
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: that is for an aardweapon
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: the text is -DISARMS you and you struggle not to drop your weapon!
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: ah I see,
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: just DISARMS you *  will work...and set up an alias for wield * so that you set a variable as your primary weapon....
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: or you could just trigger on that and wear all
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Or just shell out for bracers of iron grip and not worry about that ridiculous hassle.
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: They have better hr/dr than anything else you can find, anyway.
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: ok my disarm trigger didnt work, on my trigger, when I have it say get primary and wield primary, do I send that to world or script?
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: probably send to world
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I assume it's just sending a "wield" command?
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: though I actually like using send to execute, because that means I see a local echo
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: well actually one guy helped me set it up.... he had me set trigger with some kind of variable thing like (.?*) or something
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: then he had me set it at "Get Primary" and "Wield Primary"
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: He also had me set an Alias to SetVariable("Primary", "%1") and another command I forget... sending that to script
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: would it just work if I set the trigger to DISARMS you, and the commands to "Get all" "Wield all"?
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: change to send to execute instead of send to world
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: or you can use send to script and use Send() around anything you want to send to the world
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: ok thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: "Get Primary" will not work
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: if you're using SetVariable to assign primary, you need to use GetVariable("Primary")
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: inside the commands in the trigger? Do the getvariable("Primary") prior to the Get Primary?
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: and is DISARMS you * ok enough for the trigger or do I need the (?.*) thingy in? cause I changed it and cant remember exactly how it was
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: It depends on whether you make it regex or not - the first is non-regex, the latter is
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: hey fiendish do you have a link to a forum or good wiki for using variables and such and making triggers like that? I have experience programming but not with this type stuff
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: is regex that is
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: see if this is helpful. https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Triggers
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: I have reinstalled a new MUSHclient, and still it crashes on a quest request =(
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: have you tried disabling each plugin?
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kurojiryuu nods.
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: I messed around with my bigmap, now it doesn't display in the mapper anymore, how do i reenable it?
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: bigmap reset
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: didn't help either =(
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: destroy it utterly in a fit of rage
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: nice =D
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: (usually works for me)
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: ReInstall?
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: reinstalled both the mapper and the bigmap o.0
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: ReInstall Mapper and Bigmap at the same time.
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: yes, doesn't work.
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Look for a state file with b6eae87ccedd84f510b74714 in its title and 60840c9013c7cc57777ae0ac in its title. Delete both of those state files.
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Then ReInstall both Mapper and Bigmap.
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: nope didn't work either
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why do ISP's employ retards for their tech support?
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that age old question reasked
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GuardianZack Tech: thats racist man, you shouldnt talk about mexicans that way
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: don't be silly, they don't employ Mexicans
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: for one, they're based in Sheffield UK, and for two, Mexicans don't work
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GuardianZack Tech: oh yeah thats right, theyre free
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: is it normal for the new mush version to do a big group of invmon when u log in?
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: if you use some of my plugins, then yes
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moofie Tech: in zMUD and cMUD, #loop repeats an action the specified amount of times. Is there a similar command in MushClient?
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: not that i know of, but you can write a simple alias to do that
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moofie Tech: well, although I've been writing aliases, I still don't know how to make something repeat a given amount of times
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: while num>i do blahblah i+1 end
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moofie Tech: Thanks Redryn!
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: how do i install this game
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: type "copy internet" , then "install game"
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: (joke)
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moofie Tech: you mean the MushClient?
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: lol come on
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moofie Tech: Lukesmart, do you mean the MushClient?
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: no i have the client but im nt conected
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You're already in the game.  What's the problem?
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moofie Tech: if you weren't connected, we wouldn't see you talking on Tech
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You need to enter the information that's in 'help ip' into your client for it to connect.
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if you're using the aard mush package, just run the executable
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: As you can tell, we don't know exactly what you're trying to do :P
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: uhm no this is on a phone and i dnt knw where on in this files to find da game
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moofie Tech: you're on here using your phone?
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: And you're trying to get it to work on your computer?
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you downloaded the MUSHclient package from the Aard website, just run MUSHclient.exe
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: And that's all you have to do
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: ok first file is db backups then docs then fonts then locale then lua then mime then names then scrits then socket then sounds then spell then worlds then aardwolf then aardwolf bookmarks then arrdwnlfpackagechanges and so on...
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: where do i go coz im lost
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: in that same spot as all those folders, there is also a file called MUSHclient.exe
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: help please
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Just double-click on that
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: i found a MUSHclient.gdi and a mushclient.cnt nd just MUSHclient
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: run the mushclient
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: You are set not to see the exe extension, run the just MUSHClient file
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Or are you on a Mac?
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: wth is a mac?
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: extract?
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: hmm
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: how do i write?
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: whenever i log off or disconnect, my tags settings for skillgains and spellups - those tags only - are reset
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: nevermind
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: does anyone know what i can do to make them stay put?
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: probably have a plugin that's changing the settings
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Disable whatever plugin is changing them
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: oh... ok i'll just deal as in ive no idea which one that would be :) Thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I would guess one that deals with spells and skills.
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: probably :)
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: 'skillgain' is in bast_spellup, Aardwolf_Spellups_mw, and broadcast_spellsskills on my install
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: has anyone got any mushclient experience with multiline triggers?
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I have 100s of triggers and have yet to need a multiline trigger.  what is the use case?
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: wheres the sound?
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: the ascii map capture uses a multiline trigger
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Could someone come up with an idea why this:  http://pastebin.com/NyazX04d   is printing "nil" for new_mobid?  (SQLite question)
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: having a look
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Assume fixsql() is properly adding single quotes around strings.
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: it looks like we're both working on a similar side project
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I've had this working before... but had a harddrive crash...
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Suddly SQL isn't working the same.. lol
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I do the quoting in my client routine rather than in a sql function
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Either way, this cannot be my problem because it works in every other application of SQL strings... for some reason this simple query is returning nothing... but looking at the database, it should return 1 (as this is the first and only mob so far)
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: and this sql works if you run the sql maunally
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: and this sql works if you run the sql manually?
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Hmm, I should check that...
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Hmmm.... seems my problem isn't with SQL at all... my GMCP calls don't seem to be functioning all the time
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Anyone know if mushclient's LUA functions include a good way to query an HTTP server and parse an XML response?
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: iirc, you can http=open("http://whatever.com")
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awq Tech: hot
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://69.5.26.215/forum/?id=10820
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: That is a link to a plugin that deals with it.
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: not really
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: That just opens a url and adds a hyperlink to it
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: From what i understand he wants to locally download the page and parse it for specific information
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Actually, I want to access the trueknowledge API. But yeah, anything that can download via HTTP would be a good start.
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: http://www.wellho.net/resources/ex.php4?item=u116/webclient
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: That's a start. Looks like this might turn into more work than I want it to be. :-(
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: If you don't mind me asking, why would you want to do the parsing in the client?
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: I build on another alpha mud, and their OLC sucks in a number of ways that result in me needing to do all sorts of unit conversions and calculations by hand. Thought I might be able to save time by outsourcing these things to a web service. But it's looking like I'd spend more time writing those functions than just putting up with things as they are.
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: If I wanna have a table on mush and I put it in the .lua file
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and it's biggish
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: would that be an issue
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: not really...what's biggish?
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: According to Gammon, no
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Yeah, what's biggish?
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd say the gmcp table is pretty biggish
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: 400ish key pairs
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: You'll be fine
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: is that the proper way to add tables tho
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: would become a big file
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: shrug, if it works for you, wouldn't worry too much about what's proper
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: sqlite db would be another way to go about it
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: so the way to go is write the table there in the file, then how you operate with it goes to another function or alias
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: write a plugin with functions to read/write the variables
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: are the 'variables' those tables
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: or other variables
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, the tables can be those variables
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and I guess I can't have a graphical table
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: like the variables in the settings
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: don't think so
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: oooo those plugins are sexy
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: removes all the crap from the script file
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if (db.dbb.dbb) =20 then note yes end <-- this is outputting error [string "Immediate"]:1: 'then' expected near '='
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: why is that
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: if (db.dbb.dbb == 20) then
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: = is assignment, == is a check
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: well if I switch it to > I'm getting error [string "Immediate"]:1: '=' expected near 'yes'
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: So you were trying to assign something where it expected a conditional following the 'if'
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Note("yes")
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: assuming it's lua
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: better to write as: if ((db.dbb.dbb) == 20) then
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and it was -- before, was same error
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: will try that
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: oh nice it works now
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: the note was the issue :p
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheezburger bows deeply.
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheezburger snickers softly.
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: p
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: paren's in lua aren't like those in perl, they aren't optional for functions :P
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: and a good thing too!
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: ma i alone in hating optional paren
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: i like optional paren's
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and I can't find the option to leave last command in the command line
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: ma i alone in hating optionawhere bald
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: mis
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: i can't remember what tab it's under
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: game->configure->input->commands
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: There it is
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: tick "keep commands on prompt line"
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/GettingStarted
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: answers that question, btw
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: will check that
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: in fact... https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/GettingStarted#How_do_I_make_it_so_that_commands_stay_on_the_input_line_after_I
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daresia Tech: if you mapper goto an unknown roomid, it causes an error and prevents mapper goto from working again...is that expected?
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: doens't sound like it
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you might want to try updating to a newer version of the package, Daresia
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: because that doesn't happen for me in the latest version. https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/downloads/list
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: print (GetTriggerInfo("trig1",8)) shows true
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but when I put if statement it doesn't work :(
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: should it be like if (GetTriggerInfo("trig1",8)) = true then
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: ==
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: then it outputs [string "Immediate"]:3: attempt to call global 'note' (a nil value)
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: when I put note ("asd")
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: also is it returning true or "true"
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: just true in blue
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but the if isn't working
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if (GetTriggerInfo("trig1",8)) == true then note("Asd") end
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: Note("asd") not note
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: :(
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Griffi Tech: NOTE LSD
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: case sensitive is gai
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gonf smirks.
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: the help file refers to true as TRUE.. is it case sensitive that way?
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: no the Note was case sensitive :P
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teapie Tech: my mushclient (tried r397 and r564) main window's maximize function seems to be broken on Win XP - it doesn't set the max height, leaving about 30px of space at the bottom. is anyone else having the same issue?
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: corrupted file, have to delete it and let mush create a new one.
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teapie Tech: it happenes just right after (re)installation, what file is corrupt?
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: dunno, I don't use mush.
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teapie Tech: well, thanks.
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if there's a trig ^\<.*\%hps .*\%mn
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: how can you display %1 in that
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: tried with Note(%1)
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it outputs unexpected symbol near '>'
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but if I just put Note() in the Send box it works okay
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: add capture values to ()
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: cause this way it just captures the whole string
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: ^\<(.*)\%hps (.*)\%mn   <- %1 hp, %2 mn 
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: ah, and add quotes around %1 %2
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: Note("%1")
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: right the issue was with the () :p
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: they should put this stuff in the docs
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: quotes are an issue too (or will be someday), believe me :)
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: capturing groups are a regex part, you can use stars* when you're using MUSH capture syntax, but when you turn regex on it's all strict
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: there are lot of little things like that that are a pain :(
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: http://www.regular-expressions.info/reference.html <- might help, regex is always useful
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's actually like zmud and I put () the first time
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but didn't work and I tried removing and adding  a dot
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and it worked and then I didn't think about adding () again
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: Zmud doesn't use regex, does it ?
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: it can
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: the pattern crap is the same
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: it's rather outdated though
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teapie Tech: is anyone willing to share their 'use portal-hold last item' automation for the mushclient?
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: Mushclient is SO annoying.. it will only play .wavs .. and VERY VERY specific types of .wavs
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Can you call upon an external player? That's how I do it in tt++
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i _think_ there is some sort of mp3 add in i can use.. but i think that's for another day..
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i can't find enough wavs that meet the requirements for each damned event
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reina Tech: how i want to speed up my uttorrent ...??? a month ago my utorrent speed it about 100kb/s ..and now 0.5 kb/s ??????wth of this speed .it might be take a years to complete my movie ...
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teapie Tech: anyone know how to redefine F1 key in the mushclient?
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: use the Accelerator method
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teapie Tech: can't find anything about accelerators in the help, can you provide more details please?
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Accelerators will not override the F1 key being used for help
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: Accelerator("Key", "command") I guess
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: oh, didn't know that.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ranrr walks around in the room, looking very confused.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: _h 10
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: global pref-general- check "use F1 and F6 as macro" box
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You can use Accelerator for ctrl+F1 and so on.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teapie Tech: thanks, Orogan - it works!
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Let's, for this discussion, assume your bittorrent usage is legal. Then, providing more upload speed and a reasonable number of upload slots (8 or so) will probably help.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spoke Tech: is there a legal way to stream ABC or TNT online?
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Nuala seems mighty jumpy. Perhaps you should go talk to them...
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: short of using the indoors/outdoors/noweather flag, can a sector/terrain type's indoor/outdoor status change from the default?  Am looking to smarten up how my script updates time/weather info so I'm not always sending commands in situations where I can't get the data.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: anyone else seeing memory issues with Firefox 4?
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Hell yes
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: So that would be yes, then? :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: just a min, lsaer
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Sorry, was in laser - yes, I am seeing major memory issues with FF4
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Same here, a bit leaky, just have to restart it every few hours though
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Oh I see they have about a zillion comments to that effect. Should have googled first asked later.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Should the mushclient potion quaffer plugin (from the bast plugins) update the totals when you use it to buy potions? Mine doesn't seem to
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Mine doesn't either - I just "pots" after I buy
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Yeah, but I'd like to automate it, and 'pots' shows the whole contents of the bag, any way I can suppress that in an alias?
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: What's teh mysql command to show the table layout? IE, see which order the rows are in.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: s/teh/the
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: nvm, got it :)
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Anyone know how i find my local IP in the 196.*.*.* format? I did it once to set up a static route on my wireless router to one computer, but i can't remember how i did it to do it for another?
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: What operating system in windows you can go to command line and do ipconfig
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: linux, ubuntu 10.10
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: try ifconfig -a
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: i tried ifconfig, but it's not there
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: will teh with a switch
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: try*
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2010/10/find-ip-dns-addresses-ubuntu-10-0410-10-maverick-meerkat/
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Still only seeing in the 10.0.0.* format on ifconfig
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: ahh, nice mend
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Hmm
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: that's also only the 10.0.0.* format
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Which my router table on the modem's site doesn't seem to like.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: what are you trying to do?
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Are you connected directly to your cable/dls modem or something?
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Well, i have the SSH server on one computer, trying to move it over to this computer.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: turn off the ssh service on your current comp, install on other comp? :p
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: I remember i had a hell of a time doing it the first time on a double NAT'd system, but i thought it'd be easier to switch computers than it was to setup initially
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: man im so glad mud clients don't autocorrect your typing like cell phone texting :P
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: random thought of the day for your pleasure :P
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: i bet there's an app for that
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: you've made me tempted to write one :P
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: have you ever tried writing an app in poetry verse?
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: i think u'd get the super badass award if u could code in rhyme and meter haha
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: lol
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Ok, so how do i make a sql table require 3 fields to be unique, only if ALL of them are unique. Ie, name=dog, area=field, level=10 is NOT the same as name=dog, level=10, area=pasture, but would be if area was field.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: mysql* table
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Any ideas?
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teapie Tech: try adding an unique key which includes all these fields
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: I did
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: If any of them are the same, it throws an error
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teapie Tech: isn't it what you want?
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: No, i want it to throw an error only if all three of the unique fields are the same as another entry, but 1 or 2 of them could be the same as another entry
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Could you just do it manually, not by making them all unique?
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teapie Tech: you did something wrong then, check if any other unique keys present.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Well, it's an interrogate script passing to a mysql table, and i want to use 'area' 'name' and 'level' as the unique key together.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Could you just make a third field combing them all together?
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teapie Tech: or you can do it manually, say in a stored procedure, which will check the values and then insert/update them.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: CB, what are you using to manipulate the db?
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: perl
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Try taking Mendaloth's step one idea further and make some sort of hash combining the three, then you only have to compare hashes
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: I thought for sure sql would be able to hand such a think itself.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Oooh smarter idea there Entopee :)
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: can't just make a composite primary key in mysql?
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: thing*
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Chime: how?
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Don't think that's exactly what CB is looking for
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Doesn't look like it from my googleing
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: he wants to do some logic when inserting a record, that should be a trigger on the table :p
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gonf flicks his whip across Cheezburger's bare back. 
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Basically, if (field1!=any other field1 entry && field2!=any other field2 entry && field3 != any other field3 entry)
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: yep, just add a on insert or update in front of you that and you practically have a table trigger
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: CB, that logic will be flawed - for example, if you have STTNG twice, then that statement will call false
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: exactly
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: So basically what you want are completely unique cells across each column
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: I want it to be able to do several mobs in same area, even if they have the same level, or several mobs with same name in different area but if and ONLY if all three of those evaluate to true, add to table
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teapie Tech: if you manage to add an unique key for all 3 fields then you can rely on mysql with INSERT and ON DUPLICATE modifier, otherwise you'll have to handle this logic manually in a trigger/stored proc i think.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: err, no, i explained that wrong.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: If 3 of the 3 unique fields already have that entry, do nothing. If less than 3, do something.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: So you only want unique rows
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: well, what if you have 2 different mobs with the same name/level/area?
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: if 2 mobs with same name/level/area, do nothing
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: If you want unique rows, I think hashing will be the easiest
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: if 2 mobs have same area/level but different name, add it
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: but what if they're different mobs? different vnums?
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: there could be a good one, a neutral one and an evil one, all identical but their align
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: or they could just be identical :P
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Since i can't access vnums, this is my atempt to find unique mobs by comparing those three fields.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: How about adding everything, then using Mysql DISTINCT to remove dups?
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Then you can define for yourself what constitutes uniquity
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: how can i remove a unique from a column? I have 3 columns defined as 'unique' and i want to remove that so i can add dups.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: alter table
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: heh, knew that much
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: will i have to redefine all my columns?
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rejbear Tech: you should be able to alter just one colum n
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: shake, alter table blah change column blah, etc etc
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rejbear Tech: you could unload the table, change the definition and reload it
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rejbear Tech: use sqldump
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rejbear Tech: if you start dumping tables, one could always start using sqlite, it runs faster
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I'm loving sqllite :)
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Anyone know if there's a way to make the Mushclient GMCP mapper ignore an area?
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: why, you can purge old areas if that's what you mean?
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: No, not purge - I mean stop mapping an area completely
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Nope not that I know of....why would you want to do that though?  Could always hard code it in the function that adds a new room.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I feel like it slows down lasertag a lot
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Oh, don't play much
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Could always add an option to do something like if (count(mapper.area) == explorable.area) then return end 
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: So it's more universal than just ltag area.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Might just end up doing that - I was just wondering if there was a hidden function I was not aware of
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Could also post an issue on the google code website, with the suggestion.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Explaining why you want it might help...is it slow even after you have mapped the whole area
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: The thing is, the lasertag area is randomized after each game - not sure if the mapper keeps adding data or what, but each time I join, there's considerable slowdown
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: nods, the psuedo-code i posted would essentially speed the client back up after you've finished mapping an area.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Yup, thanks for that - will implement that and possibly put up a suggestion
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Nods, that's why i went by rooms mapped compared to total explorable.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: since ltag changes and you can't compare total exits.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Yup
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: granted, there is a possible bug with that too
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Some area's have rooms marked no-explore.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: So there's more rooms than 'explored' says there is.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Well, I could always just limit it to ltag for now
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Since that's the only place I'm having possible problems with
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: if gmcp.room.info.zone = laserone then return end
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: lasertwo but yeah, thanks a lot
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: ==, and lasertwo, nods
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: In perl will this statement evaluate to undef if none match all three? --> my $query=$dbh->prepare("SELECT name, area, level from Interrogate WHERE name=$name, area=$area, level=$level;");
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Yeah that'll match all 3...Not sure what it returns in perl though if there are no results
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: should get a true false return.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Good enough
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teapie Tech: it's only a prepare method, shouldn't return undef i believe
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: or 0 1, not sure how it handles it in perl
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: So i can do if (!$query) {$dbh->do(INSERT blahblah);}, right?
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: should be able to, like ai said Im not fluent in perl, so not sure on syntax
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teapie Tech: tasks
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teapie Tech: oops
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: I guess there's one way to test, interrogate the same mob again :P
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Hmm
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: doesn't look like it's working.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Didn't add anything to the db with or without the mob already existing
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teapie Tech: have you tried to execute the prepared statement?
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Not yet, i added a "print $query;" to the file to see what it returns
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: DBI::st=HASH(0x2513b10)
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Do i need to dereference that first?
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teapie Tech: add the use Dumper
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: DBI::st=HASH(0x2513b10)
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: oops
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teapie Tech: add the use Dumper; to the beggining of your script and then print Dumper($query) to see what hash contains.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teapie Tech: use Data::Dumper
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Returns empty hash looks like
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teapie Tech: read the 'perldoc DBI', there are some examples there.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: So, anyone else watch the AVC today?
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Has anyone else noticed that they aren't getting a GMCP char.status line after each time the enemy is damaged?
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: nope, i get one every combat round
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Weird...
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Figured it out - I had another char.status trigger that was blocking....whoops.
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Anyone use IE here?
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: i was told not to
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: I don't and won't :P Just wanted someone to test out something someone on my flist was having issues with.
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Astridome Tech: does mxit suport MCCP?
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: no afaik
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolo Tech: i moved my aardwolf client from one monitor to another with a very different resolution, now my main window in the client is really high up and i can't get my cursor to the spot where you click and drag to move the window...
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: move it back, move it down, then transfer it again?
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolo Tech: that's what im saying, i can't move it.
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: what delimiter do I use for multi-line aliases in mushclient?
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: transfer it back to your original monitor, move it down, then move it back over the the other monitor?
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolo Tech: transferring back to the original monitor doesnt do anything, either
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: mieko, ;
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: mmm, that's what I'm using
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolo Tech: for whatever reason, when i switch back to the original monitor, the windows stay in the same position instead of moving again
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: did you try resizing the window Dolo?
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolo Tech: you mean the client window or the window im trying to move inside the client? i dont know if i'm explaining myself clearly enough... im talking about the window where all the data comes through. like the communications log or the mapper... are those referred to as plugins? heh
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: so the subwindows in the client are out of place?
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolo Tech: yeah, and i dont have a probalem moving most of them since you can click and drag ust about anywhere
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolo Tech: but the sub window that spits out room directions and all of that... that one has been pushed up beyond the top edge of the main window
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolo Tech: ugh, room DESCRIPTIONS. sorry, i just woke up about 15 minutes ago hehehe
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: hmm just reinstall a new client?
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolo Tech: i was really hoping you wouldn't say that
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolo Tech: hehehehe
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolo Tech: i guess if that's all i can do, then that's it. thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: not sure if there is a command to reset the positions of the windows to default, but there probably is
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: just reinstall the plugin
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: anyone here use bast spellup?
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samar Tech: using? yes.. be helpful.. i doubt
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: just wondering if theres a way to make the refresh continue even when a spell fails
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: It should recast when a spell fails
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: it does.. sometimes... for some reason it gets stuck and I have to manually restart it
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I used to get that a lot, there's a couple of things I've found usually cause it, either sleeping mid-cast or using it for skills like sneak and hide
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Bast said the sleep one is fixed for the next release, and I've made him aware of the skills problem
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Sleep mode?
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: had it with sneak and hide on
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: turning them off... seeing what happens
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Sleeping stalling spellups problem, turie
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: nah.. sleeping isn't the issue.. nor is combat
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: It has something to do with sleeping or idling too long in a non-magic room.
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Griffi Tech: sad
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Griffi spaem gclans wisth her drusnkin ram,bilindss,
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I used to only get it occasionally on sleeping, if a spellup triggered exactly at the same time as I went to sleep
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: added it to refresh everytime I go idle.. and when I kill a mob
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: goal is to just stay spelled so I don't have a long spellup ever
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vespar Tech: on the mush client how do i make it so it doesnt delete the text in the input bar after i hit enter?
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: input - commands - autorepeat
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samar Tech: commands -> auto repeat commands 
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vespar Tech: thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Does anyone know a firefox extension that can detect the language of a newly loaded page, and automaticly translate the contents into English? I want this to happen without even having to click a translate button, so the google toolbar isn't quite it.
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Do not install foxlingo. Ever. It tries to install lots and lots of adware. And then it doesn't work.
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Poll for the masses: what is your MUD output wrap column set at?
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: mine is not set!!!
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: 80.
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: 80 because notes, room descriptions, and so on are set to 80 characters.
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: does that include ansi colors?
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Yes.
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: does it include the blinking cursor?
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Blinking cursor? Are you using raw telnet?
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: autowrap uses the width of the available screen
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: no i installed telnet-bsd
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Well, notes and room descriptions are set at 80 displayed characters.
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jesse Tech: think its possible to jb weld a chunk of my intake plenum where the bolt hole for the throttle body connects? good enough to tighten the throttle body?
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jesse Tech: i just broke mine -_-
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: will glycerine or sulfur based amine lotions penetrate  the skin faster?
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: With an obvious need for caution, is it possible to put an OnPluginBroadcast() into a .lua helpfile and each plugin that "requires" it will process said broadcasts?  (MUSHClient)
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: why would you want to put code in a helpfile?
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: For function reuse, mainly.
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Instead of using CallPlugin() in each, I can just put the functions in a .lua file and require them
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: what was that physics unit that meant a 'unit of work ' ?
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: w
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: what system?
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: not sure?
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: the one that has joules and horsepower and so on?
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude misses flash.
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: anyone know a good place to buy phones from?
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: the ATT store
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: cell phones that is
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: phone stores
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cide sighs.
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: you'll have to be a lot more specific, since many vendors are going exclusive
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: whats up?
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: i was looking for an at&t phone and somewhere better than ebay to look and the ATT store :P
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: there are auction-compare sites, if all you're looking for are deals.
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: whats a good c/c++ compilier?
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: for windows
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gohaan Tech: is there a gq cycle script for mush?
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: did you try gcc?
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: not yet
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gohaan Tech: aard mush client
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: i tried borland
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: erm what does UNLINKED - Previously Grandmarket Boulevard (The Grand City of Aylor) (32470) this mean?
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morinon Tech: wut
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: it's an output from the mapper
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morinon Tech: Hmm.
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: yeah, weird =P
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: it probably means you have a stub/broken link, and/or an extra room that's not supposed to be there.
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: hmm, how do I fix it?
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: assuming it's not completely borked, you could try just remapping the area in question to see if something got missed
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i hate forgetting to put thule on maps =(
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: some way to get at further information about the room so you can know exactly which room in the mapper it's referring to would probably help.
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I mean, if the mapper is referring to Room X but you mistakenly believe it is Room Y, you're likely not going to find any problems to fix with Room Y.
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: so i need to remap aylor? =(
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: probably just the one section of it.
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: overkill is never a bad option, though.
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: alright, thanks =D
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I tried out Bast's campaign tracking miniwindow.. It's very convenient, but it always omits the first mob. Any easy way to fix that?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Install fix.xml
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Temporary workaround is to do a manual cp check after each mobkill
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: There I go :-D Big thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: No problem
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Also, for future reference, if you add a return-carriage character to the end of your prompt, you should get the same effect without fix.xml - the problem is that sometimes the mobnames get appended to whatever was there last, so the regex is not picking that up
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: All out of sudden, the minimap window in MUSHclient stopped working. What did I break?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what do you mean by 'stopped working'?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: stopped updating and the map started going into the main window. Restarting MUSHclient fixed the issue so never mind.
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stutz Tech: can some one help me with something?  Not sure if this is easy to do or not, but I am trying to write a trigger that will take the output from my spouse channel: "(Spouse): set mana moonlight" and assign the value of "moonlight" to a variable manapot.  I'm using mushclient.
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: anyone know how to use a knoppix cd to bootstrap to a bsd partition that has its own bootloader and kernel installed?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: That would be creating a remote control script, and would be against aardwolf rules. See help botting.
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yes.. you'll get booted for behaviour like that
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: stick with just controlling yourself in combat and casting
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: hmmn actually i dont think that would be botting, unless that 'value' they assigned was then used by a script to quaff/buy/store/adjust said manapot?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: they're allowing their spouse, to interact with their client, not the mud?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stutz Tech: nod. ok. had not thought of the botting implications.  Am just looking for a way to reset my manapot variable withouth having to open up the variable window....
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I think Stutz is just using the spouse channel to echo to himself
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: stutz, you can do that by ' Shortbus Stuz tells the group my new manapot is moonlight ' and globbing moonlight from it?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: avoid using it to control your spouse.. look in the help for SetVariable
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no need to use a channel to set a variable for yourself
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: they just are saying that you need to be the one in control, not your spouse... even if she's got cute leather outfits and boots and a whip
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: And if you do need that, you can use echo.
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just set your own variable...make an alias "setmana"...then type "setmana moonlight"
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: agreed.. setup an alias  
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stutz Tech: perfect. thanks abe. (I = suxor when it comes to this kinda stuff).
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no need for it to ever cross your screen, unless you want an echo to verify that it did something
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Even then, you can use world.note.
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the alias would be "setmana *", and the action can be "setvariable (manapotion, %1)" or close to that
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: Abelinc, any idea how to use a knoppix livecd to get a bootstrappage of a bsd partition that has its own bootloader and so on, that if in grub, i could just have chainloader +1 'd?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not offhand, dunno what bootloader knoppix uses
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: you might need double quotes around that %1
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you finger me and go to the very bottom of my script page, there's a couple pretty simple mushclient plugins that can show you how you can use aliases to set variables up plugin-style...on other sites, there are also potion tracker scripts that already handle this for you :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Bast's potion quaffer plugin is pretty nice - can set heals, mana, and buff pots
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stutz Tech: thanks. will take a look.
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Anybody need a script for runto in vidblain?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: (sorry, couldn't resist bragging)
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: No. The mapper works fine there.
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: from Aardhotel "invis;~run dsw2news8e5s;~enter hole" is almost a script to vidblain -- is there a shorter path
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: not to, in 
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: besides using the dark crystal
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: a speedwalk to the areas in vidblain would be nice to have, but I can live without it...
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Can't really speedwalk there, I guess (bar portals), but the coordinate system can be abused to make a script that lands you in the right area.
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: run sw2news8e5s;enter hole is a shorter way?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: if I was a frequent traveller there, I might consider doing something like that, but I try to stay away from vidblain... at least until ST:TNG is redone. Sillyness factor too high for my taste. :)
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: your speedwalk from aardhotel is 21 steps and run sw2news8e5s from recall is 20
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the speedwalk to Ultima or Sendhia uses a script that calculates the run string -- but care is required to not run east into ST:tNG (do the NS first then the EW)
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: "the" speedwalk?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: so an inner Vidblain speedwalk script is possible 
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: is that an analogue speedwalk, or a digital one?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: currently the old Ultima script tells Xyliz what to type to run to Sendhia -- when Xyliz remorts, may automate that to do the run auomatically instead of waiting for the monkey at the keyboard to type in the suggested run
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: remort? Doesn't that requiree you to level? :)
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: you want me to start leveling again -- supply a few hints on the Gladiator Arena goal task2 (information on nasty surprises) and optionally task3 (where are the two missing diamonds)
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: like what immunities are likely to be on the mobs in the hard run, what is the "test of strength", what is the "test of speed"
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xyliz is used to cheating, cheating is honorable: going to school and college are forms of honorable cheating.
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antistes Tech: i'm having a problem loading any of bast's plugins, wondered if anyone might be able to help
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antistes Tech: i've got the latest mushclient, and dl'ed the plugins from the google docs page, followed the install instructions, and when trying to load the plugins it's giving me a bunch of errors for missing files
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antistes Tech: e.g. "no file '.\socket\core.lua'"
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: there is no google docs page
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antistes Tech: that is to say, fiendish, that i got them from http://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/Intro
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: which is not a google docs page
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antistes Tech: fair enough, i misremembered and found the actual address
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: but sorry. I don't know about installing bast's plugins
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Is there any way to use gmcp info directly in triggers and aliases?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Yeah, which client?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: MUSH
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Take a look at this: http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/MushclientGMCP 
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Entopee, sort of, but only if you are willing to make the assumption that the data has already come through.
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I've read that, but that uses plugins and not in-client functionality
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: what are you trying to do Entopee?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: only a plugin can have the OnPluginBroadcast function. there's no way to alert a standalone trigger of incoming gmcp data. You should be able to use the callplugin stuff from in a trigger, though.
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Hmm, so for example, how would I do get gmcpval("room.info")?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Ah, ok - will look into doing that
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WinkleWinkle is suddenly very interested in this question
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you'll just have to do it on the assumption that the data you want has already been received.
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: res, pvar = CallPlugin("3e7dedbe37e44942dd46d264","gmcpval","room.info")
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Yup
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: which may or may not be a safe assumption to make
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: About MUSHclient, the GetCommandList function doesn't return the commands sent by keypad navigation. Is there any way to get those?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I don't want to - I would much rather request as needed
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Entopee: requesting data like room.info is actually not a great idea
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Why not?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: the turnaround time of sending the command and then waiting for receipt of the data means you'll have to insert arbitrarily long delays
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: besides, room.info gets sent every time you change rooms
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Hmm, just want to write a simple repop trigger is all, with area name
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you can't do a gmcp-based repop trigger without putting it into a plugin, because you need an OnPluginBroadcast function
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Fiendish speaks the truth on that :)
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: and honestly, making plugins is pretty easy
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Once I tried using the pluin approach I moved everything to one. Just easier.
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: plugin
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: hey abelinc you still there?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Figured area repop messages out, thanks all
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i found a way to get it to boot the bsd, but, i think i need someone to hold my hand and walk me through what is wrong with my hostname.ath config .. i can give you goodberries, and pot pies?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: right now it shows dhcp rtsol nwid belkin wpa wpa-psk xrealllylongfriggingstringofstuff
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: and that looks like it should from the example
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: except in the man page, it shows mynet instead of belkin, so i had to change that
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i was supposed to use the output of wpa-psk belkin mypassword    ?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude peers at you intently. 
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: sigh, if only this mud had 2 extremely tech savvy types... instead of just abelinc and an afk erikson
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude points excitedly at Erikson!
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: About MUSHclient, the GetCommandList function doesn't return the commands sent by keypad navigation. Is there any way to get those?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: you could re-map the kepad keys to aliases 
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude glares around him.
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: abelinc, will you give tech supportage in return for tps?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jesse Tech: i need a front wiring harness for my car
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i have a wiring harness, but it may not be the right kind
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: which file should i find and click on to open with my aardwolf.mcl file?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: its asking me to choose, yet i dont know which one to pick
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: An .mcl is just an xml file.  If you want to edit it by hand, use your favorite text editor.
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: then why would my saved world file be saved as a .mcl?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I would suggest getting Notepad++ for editing. It does .xml, .mcl, .mct, .mca, and several other text based files.
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: is erikson, or another bsd user on?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jesse Tech: any mechanics online?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: jesse you mean electricians
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: bike mechanic?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jesse Tech: nodnod
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jesse Tech: how u know
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: we're in a MUD, there are mechanics all over the place here.
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: jesse i'm not an electrician, but farkyss knows how to wire a motor
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: what kind of issue are you having? distributor cap? points? spark plug wires ? fusible wires? what?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: cars have distributors these days?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jesse Tech: my ignition module that the coils sit on i think is shorted
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jesse Tech: does it have to be grounded?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: and do you plan on... removing the module, and taking it in to be tested?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: jesse, i dont know. i dont have the same car as you
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: what details can you tell us about it?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jesse Tech: like, i unbolted it cause gm bolted it directly under the manifold(bad design) so they heat up and stop workin
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: that does sound bad.
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jesse slaps himself on the head and yells, "DOH!"
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: don't they have Haynes manuals in the US?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jesse Tech: o they do
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: my car has insulated purple shells around the wires that touch the manifold.
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jesse Tech: hehe, i need one of them
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i had an easier time finding a chiltons for mine
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jesse Tech: we got super thin plastic 
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: and you can find wiring diagrams online
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: heat from the engine might not cause a short could be an electrical issue
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: akuri nod, like having too many accessories and a stereo on at once?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: but since he's sure the problem is a short... it seems like he can either check each piece of wire for continuity
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jesse Tech: meh, ima just trial an error it, once it cools down ima bolt the icm back on
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: or he can replace each piece of wire until it works
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: jesse, does the icm function properly when separated from the car?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: get a multimeter and narrow down the issue could just be a bad part too
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jesse Tech: dunno
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: akuri multimeters are expensive, wouldnt a simple probe and a battery be enough?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jesse Tech: i can test it off the car
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: here in the usa its hard to find a multimeter for less than 16 dollars after buying batteries and taxes
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jesse goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jesse Tech: i got one acctually
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: that's not exactly expensive....
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: multimeters have alot of uses
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: and are handy to have
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: akuri nod, they can be used as a toy for star trek fans as tricorders too
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jesse Tech: well thanks for the help, i'ma go look up resistance and check it :)
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jesse Tech: i'll let ya know what i find
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: k
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: in the meantime, i will keep waiting for erikson, abelinc, or a bsd savvy person to show up
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude peers intently at Erikson.
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: would help to get the part tested too 
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: is anyone familiar with aardwolf client? I ilke the communication window...
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: I'd like a window per channel, is that possible?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: it's possible, but not with the plugin that comes with the client
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: okay, so I'd really need to learn mushclient...
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: and I need to learn how to filter air
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: or get someone else to write it for you
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: with an air filter, maybe?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: don't know anyone here well enough, is there a good location to learn mushclient scripting?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: mushclient's site :P
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Once you've learned LUA, the scripting language inside mushclient, the website has a complete list of functions.
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: mush doesn't just use lua, though
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: it supports a whole bunch of languages
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: No, but people get really mad at you if you don't use LUA. And if you don't know any other scripting, LUA is the one to learn.
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: well, that's not very nice of people :P
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fastfinge is agreeing with that Myrkul person again...
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: lua is a pain
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Yes, it is. It combines all the bad things about C, JS, and VB6.
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: looks like I can edit the plugin to do what I want, thanks.
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: I'm looking at the donate page, how does it link to your aardwolf account?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: you type in your name in the message box
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: not really a tech question, btw :P
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Why can I not bsp sa huntmaster? Is this a bug or is it intended?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: when calculating alcohol content by weight, such as 3.2% , does that include the carbonation in the liquid?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: wouldn't a whole window per channel take up a lot of space?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: you can emulate a tab for it to conserve space
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: why do cmud macros get executed twice
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: hmmm
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: doesn't for me
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's like the settings got copied twice
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but when searching there's only one instance of the macro
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: for all of them or just some?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if I create new one it works nice
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but the zmud ones are twice or three times
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: are the old ones brought from zmud?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: yah
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: hmmhmm
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: do you have multiple packages?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I think I have one only right now but not sure where those are shown
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: near the top in the package editor
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: up there in settings there's some combo box
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ye shows 1 package and then some generic ones
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: the rest don't have f1 macro tho
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i had same bug when i switched from zmud to cmud, ended up just recreating all the macros
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: if you delete one of the repeating macros, and hit the assigned macro key after that what happens?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: probably nothing :P
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: lemme check
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: but if something does, it'd indicate you have extra packages somewhere
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ye nothing happens :(
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: strangeness
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: can't help you :(
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I'll do what he says, recreate them
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: was just worried settings got duplicated somewhere
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: i did have huge problems importing my zmud settings to cmud though and ended up recreating basically everything
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: omg :( when I recreate the alias it still presses it like 3 times
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I created a new session and copy-pasted the aliases from the other one and it's nice now
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: thanks a lot
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: in this example #PRINT GMCP.room: info="num=21172|name=TrEz's Manor|zone=manor3|terrain=city|details=bank,graffiti|exits=""n=1254|e=30599|s=21171|w=26641|d=32418""|coord=""id=0|x=54|y=16|cont=0"""
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: oh
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it parsed it or something
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: right
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: #PRINT GMCP.room: gmcp.room
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: so where's the list of those gmcp % parameters
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: what should be the pattern for a gmcp trig
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: comm.channel doesn't work :(
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: oh it works actually...
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cmar Tech: channel any application rather then mxit ,that can access me to aardwolf?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: the official mush client, perhaps?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: download from aardwolfs homepage.
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: anyone know if there's the opposite of the getkeyword function in the aardmapper? looking for something that will get area name from keyword
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cmar Tech: and for mobile?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: google for mud clients
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: ask abelinc when he's around, he had some suggestions, but I don't remember which
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: how can you mark random blank spaces in a trig on cmud
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: %s
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: well does it mark one space or many
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: use regex, trez
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: \s*
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: any number of spaces (one or more than one)
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: \s* for 0 or more and \s
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: and \s+ for 1 or more
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: drop zscript pattern matching faster than an ugly baby ;)
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I can't find the regex box tho, is it auto
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: yes
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: all macros have Send to server unchecked now :(
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: cmud strips () brackets for some reason, is there a way to stop that ?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: what are you trying to do?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: (1432324) is aard serial
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: when I try to wear (1432324), it wears 1432324
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I can put ~ but it's pain in the ass
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: if you want it to be interpreted as a string, put it in quotes
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: occurs too many times
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: parentheses will evaluate anything in them
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: why does he have to make all those tiny crappy changes
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: that take hours to fix
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and bring no benefit whatsoever
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: you mean why did he make it work the way it always should have, but zmud was buggy as hell? :P
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: yes
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: you could use the brackets on zmud just fine
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: perhaps, but you had to use %eval to do math :P
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: you fix this 'bug' now I have 3k lines to waste my time on
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: even basic addition
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: 3k lines? you're a bit script-heavy ain't yer?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Not particularly. I'm about the same in mushclient.
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: sounds excessive to me
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's an exaggeration
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: now that sounds more reasonable, i'm good at exagerations
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: but 3k lines for changing aard eq? :P
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but since it's aard serial it's a bitch to change
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: just use the id number
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I have to rewrite it all
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Well, I'm doing a bunch of output wangling for my screen reader, and sound triggers and management and etc. If I didn't have that to do, the stuff I wrote to actually perform commands on the mud is probably less than a quarter of that.
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: was asking for a simpler solution
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: you could write a script to rewrite it all for you
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Any help on getting the package.loadlib() function to work in MUSHClient?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: not tried it yet
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Have you checked your LUA sandbox to make sure that function is allowed?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: game -> configure -> scripting
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Hmm, there's nothing in the sandbox.. how do I allow that function?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Is there at least a comment in the sandbox? Because if it's empty, mushclient will just replace it with the default contents.
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: There's a comment in it
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: So what happens when you try to use it?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: because that function should work, in that case.
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Hmmm.. actually, upon looking further.. it might actually be working
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Oh, good. :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Just the function inside the library is failing... hmmm
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: what extern lib are you calling?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: mysql.dll
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Have you read the posts on the mushclient forum about using mysql? I haven't, but I do remember them. So those might help.
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: I'm working on a VI version of mushclient, but the sound support in mush is pretty weak
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Use comaudio to replace the playsound functions.
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i was wondering if there was something i could call that would handle sound better?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: google comaudio mushclient and it should pop up.
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: will do! thanks guys
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Yes, that's where I'm getting my information from.. might have an incompatible library
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: FastFinge you use mushclient and have knowledge of VI.  Do you know of an existing VI mush project?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: http://www.allinaccess.com/mc/
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: That has the base plugins. Then you need to create packages for whatever mud.
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Like in Aardwolf, using GMCP to read out stats with hotkeys, as prompts aren't useful. In other muds, you need to parse the prompt
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Or in godwars2, you need to...I don't even want to talk about what you need to do there. :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'm planning on keeping it fairly low-tech at first.. replying on my beta-user's own screan reader to start with.. but putting in alter triggers and allowing use of mapper
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: ^alert triggers
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Mapper works as is. All you need to do is mapper.hide when the plugin is first run, and it tends to stay that way. The mapper find, mapper goto, and mapper cexit aliases all work with the screen reader plugins.
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yeah i do that mapper hide already
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: A nice extra would be to do a mapper runto that just runs to the first result it gets from mapper find.
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: As for alert triggers, the only ones I use are for quests. I have f2 report percent of hp, control f2 report max hp, and shift f2 report current hp. I do the same thing with f3 for mana, f4 for moves, f5 for str, etc, etc.
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Then i have spellups and autohunt and all that jaz, but that has nothing to do with VI access. It just has to do with the fact I want to type less.
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Strip all the miniwindow stuff from bastmush, and it can be used as is.
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Oh, and I also use Capture Mud Output to redirect mud output to a notepad window. You can just write that yourself it's so simple, but if you don't want to, you can find one at http://randylaptop.com/software/mushclient/all/1/
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Note that if you're capturing to notepad for a long time, you'll want a timer to clear the notepad window every hour or so. If you don't, mushclient will run out of memory and crash every few hours as Aardwolf really does send a lot of text.
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Uh, sorry everyone else who isn't WinkleWinkle. That kind of turned into something that should have been a personal note. I'll shut up, now.
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: hmph .. notepads overflowing and crashing -- that is bad programing by either mushclient and or microsoft Windows -- no true professionalism these days, only pretenders
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: anyone feel like helping me make hostname.ath0 work rightly with the output of wpa-psk nwid password ?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Sounds like BSD?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: yes...
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude cringes in terror!
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Anyone with experience with MySQL here?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i have little experience
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: So, uh, hm. Well, I'ven't used it much, but I seem to recall the Atheros driver working perfectly
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: What's the issue?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: it won't associate to a wifi access point with the specified output of wpa-psk and the way i configured the hostname.ath file
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Does it work with unencrypted WiFi?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: not as far as i can tell
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Ok, well, I'm trying to connect to a MySQL database (which I can connect to in a browser using phpMyAdmin) but it's giving me Access denied for user through MUSHClient..
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: but i think the fault is not in the stars, but in the config
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Using a version of LuaSQL for MUSH
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: instead of of phpmyadmin, have you tried stragiht from command line?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I haven't.  How do I do that?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: sorry i havent tried mysql with lua
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: is there any reason you're not using SQLite?  It's awesome
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: i second that Winkle
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I'm using SQLite.  I'm trying to also integrate MySQL for sharing across players.
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: one database multiple machines different location
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: that sounds very cool!
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: So how do I connect to mysql using command line?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: cizra, right now it is set up as '   dhcp rtsol nwid belkin wpa wpa-psk xrealllylongstring
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: but it doesnt seem to be the right way
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Sorry, I don't know, but I'd start out with trying unencrypted WiFi, then asking on #freebsd channel in FreeNode.
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: cizra i dunno, the guys in that channel seem almost as rude as redhat users
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: axz have you read http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=5983 and http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?id=9682
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: axz have you read http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=5983 and http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?id=9682recall
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: GentooX, I have.  That's where I'm starting from... I have it all installed, I just cannot connect to a MySQL server yet.
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: check the second thread second page
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: does room uid 19450 have a 'd' exit to wildwood?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: mapper thisroom
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: mapper goto 321 gets stuck in room 19450
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: It doesn't anymore.  Rightclick that room, delete the exit to wildwood... then use the normal runto command to get to wildwood again.. fixed
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it's a good idea to purgezone replacement areas
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: there! I just wrote a mapper purgeroom function
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: let us know how the beta-testing goes.  Would be a cryin' shame if you just
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: oops
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guala Tech: in zmud is there a command i can use to close/clear a window i used for capture?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guala Tech: for example i use #capture group, i want to close the group window
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: #CLR to erase all the text in the window, #CLOSE to close the window entirely.
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guala Tech: thnx:)
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Etzli Tech: Hmm... Google's Chrome notebook is not only going to be fully purchasable, but you can elect to "subscribe" to use it on a monthly basis for like $20 a month.
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: $240 per annum -- for the rest of your natural born soulless life in servitude to the rent collecting google man (?)
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: no thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the price of notebooks may come down, and if they do, renters may be wanting to break their contracts
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: a rent-to-own computer costs at least 2.5 times as an outright purchase.
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: dokkar, when businesses shut down you can usually get a computer for 20-30 bucks
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: it seems silly to pay more than a hundred
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude patiently twiddles his thumbs.
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Etzli Tech: No.
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: anyone have any experince with Com Audio to play sounds
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i've installed it.. but I'm not sure how to invoke it
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: Does anyone know where the file that saves my triggers is located in the Mush folders?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: is it in the aardwolf.mcl?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: it is
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: are you sure?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: he sounded sure
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: you can also save your triggers elsewhere via the save button
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i wish he was that good with hostname.ath0's
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: right...but i didnt know if it did that automatically somewhere else
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude looks at Erikson ponderingly.
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude looks at you ponderingly.
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: BSD?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude sobs quietly to himself because GentooX was a jerk!
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: yes.
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: /me don't know how BSD works
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: it just works. except when it doesnt
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: its like prayer. in a way
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarquil Tech: yeah pester abe though he'll point you at tf and pat your head and push you away
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: zarquil no, i have collected goodberries, and will attempt to bribe him for tech supportage ?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: vampiredude i saw a super funny quote about you on the daoine quote site. I think you should go read it and stop talking.
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: zarquil in fact, i've been camped out on abe's doorstep for a while now, if he ever answers the door i can try to give him the goodberries
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: weight per volume and percentage weight per total weight are different 
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ok... but how to find either when it comes to a bottle of alcohol?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: state exactly what the bottle specifies
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: 746.5 mg/ml is common
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: Contains not more than 3.2% alcohol by weight cont. 12 fl oz. serve at 40-45 F
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: 746.5 mg/ml is common with rubbing ethanol
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: 3.2% by weight is approx at least 4.1% by volume 
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: may even be higher percentage by volume with a heavy syrup
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: boiled cabbage turning blue is an indicator of high alkalinity or high acidity?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: http://chemistry.about.com/od/acidsbase1/a/red-cabbage-ph-indicator.htm -- Looks like slightly alkaline
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: with php if i wanted to do multiple lines in an email im sending can i use <br> or is there another way to do it?
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Just put a newline in there.
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I assume that was a BR tag?
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: ya sorry i have xml off so it was not parsed for me
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: PHP is essentially a markup language generator, so your results will reflect the rules of that language.  I dunno if it's universal to all languages, but for HTML that means it ignores whitespace.  BR or some equivalent (slash-n?) will be necessary.
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: not in an email
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: a new line in an mail will be interpreted literally
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I thought he was wanting to generate an email in PHP?
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yes. Still true.
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: now that im trying to add "/n" it just gives me a syntax error in dreamweaver
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: just add a newline, nothing else. Just press the enter key where you want the newline.
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MasterT Tech: hello?
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: well?
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MasterT Tech: can any1 tell me if aardwolf uses a lot of data when playing on my comp?
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: no
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: no, it doesnt :-) not no we cannot tell
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MasterT Tech: how much would u saz'
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: well you can type mccp if you have a client. mine shows 5Mb data in, compressed to 600k, in 2 hours
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: reduction 88 percent
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MasterT Tech: so roughly how long would a gig last when playing aardwolf?
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: couple of years?
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: probably more
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: aard takes minimum bandwidth
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: especially if you have mccp on
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MasterT Tech: r u joking or wwhat?
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: no
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MasterT Tech: thanks. Just 1 more thing. Is there an aardwolf wap site and apps to play it on my mobile
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: use any mobile ssh/telnet client
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: no wap site tho
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MasterT Tech: got any client name and where to dl
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: actually, i think it would last way more than couple of years
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: my biggest irc log is 270MB, 2 years idling on a channel with 700+ users
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: also, i use ssh compression via a vps, so i guess a gig would last pretty much forever
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: how does the tick gmcp work
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evra Tech: anyone know the armor off line.
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evra Tech: for trigger
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evra Tech: and can someone get a job and playstaion and sort it out
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if ffdshow icons aren't in tray, are they still working ?
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: I tried runnign ComAudio in Mushclient yesterday, but I'm getting an error playign the sound
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Did you install the SDK?
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: it executes the "onPlaySound" event and receives the file, but throws a -214578645843 type number
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: that page had a plugin, and an SDK you need to install.
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i DID install the sdk
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Hmmm. Are you on windows XP, or 7, or what?
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: but it was on Win 7.. i wonder if it's compatible with that
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Good question...
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: my other questions is .. do i pass the full file path or does it knwo to look in \muschclient\sounds
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: neither worked for me
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i couldn't find any documentation on comaudio
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: I always pass it the full path. I'm not sure if it's required, but that's what I do.
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: and it works on win7. Just checked. What format are you using? My sounds are all ogg.
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i was trying to play a .wav 
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: maybe that wasn't very smart
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: what formats does it play? mp3? ogg?
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: liek i said i couldnt' find any documenation.. but i now realise i didn't look int he SDK install directory
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: lol.. i just foudn the readme.txt
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Got it up WinkleWinkle?
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Sorry, I was on the phone. Friend is in hospital.
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: oh i'm sorry!
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: If you're looking for examples of a VI client package, Alter Aeon has a really good one called mushz. It's at: http://www.oriolg.es/mush.php
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: thanks FastF.. i knew you'd be able to help me.  My friend wants to try mushclient and the excellent mapepr that goes with it... 
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: I test it out for another 8 hours or so.. but I think i'll have success tonight
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: I CAN'T test it out for another 8 hours or so.. but I think i'll have success tonight
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: *Yay!*  Go WinkleWinkle!!!  Fastfinge cheers him on.
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: I've been trying to package my own blind distribution for two weeks, now. The problem is, as a blind player, I have so many hundreds of little tweeks that make no sense to anyone but me, no docs, and no easy way to clean up the code. My sound stuff is all in a file called gmcpleveler.lua for reasons known only to me, etc. I'm about to just give up.
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: well it sounds like we're working on something similar... if you can share your file, I'd love to have a look
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I'm really hoping that when you guys figure out this blind distro thing that you'll let me know, so I can work the changes into the official client package
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: or at least clean it up and make a separate VI release
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: does gmcp trig take less resources than a normal trig ?
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: no
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: pattern matching in a text stream
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: same process, different streams
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: so it'd actually be slower since it has a pattern with less characters than a full one
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: eh?
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: But you're better to use only one or only the other, if you can. If you've got the libraries required by GMCP loaded, already, best to get as much use out of them as you can. Or if you don't need GMCP, stick to triggers and don't load those extra includes.
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: i doubt you'd see any performance difference either way
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: since you're not using zmud
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Uh, true. Thought we were talking about mushclient. The GMCP client in mushclient isn't built in, so using it can use a lot of extra resources. Is support built in to zmud?
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: cmud, but not sure
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: no, no built in support in zmud, only reason i mentioned it is that zmud is coded so badly that pretty much anything can have a noticable performance hit, even on a fast pc
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: little reason to assume zugg has suddenly got better at coding in cmud
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Ah.
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: the gmcp handler in mushclient is unlikely to have any noticeable impact on performance
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: the MUD only updates eight times per second
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: True. I assumed the discussion was theoretical.
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: don't fearmonger about performance issues that don't exist :)
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: well I was thinking a trigger that has a simple pattern would slow it down
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: a single trigger won't. thousands of them probably will to some degree.
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: I wasn't attempting to do so. All I was saying is that if you aren't using GMCP for anything, don't load GMCP. Or if you can use all triggers or all GMCP, do that instead of mixingthem.
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: comm.channel vs a pattern is longer than 12 chars
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: does cmud have a setting for refresh amount like zmud
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: couldn't find it
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and I was thinking the tick gmcp thingie showed when the mud ticks, and was gonna add a trig so it syncs my timer
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but it doesn't work for some reason anyways :p
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but I saw a timer on mush that prolly uses gmcp
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: because it refreshed every 3 secs or something
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fiendish raises an eyebrow.
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: There are timers that count down every second for MUSH.  Or do you mean it resyncs every 3 seconds?
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: TrEz, that comment makes no sense
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: the tick timer updates every 2 seconds, but that has nothing to do with gmcp
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: it doesn't even use gmcp
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: and it could easily be made to update every second if I thought it mattered
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: you could fix that.. by disabling the trigger once it executes.. and then once you quaff, re-enabling the quaff trigger
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: mis
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: quaff triggers, eh? :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I dunno how it works just saw it goes down in value every 2-3 secs, not every sec
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: so I thought it syncs with gmcp
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: what's the tick in gmcp then
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: it only synchronizes on a tick. it's just arbitrarily set to update the time every 2 seconds
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: it doesn't use gmcp
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: it uses something that predates gmcp
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: what's this gmcp tick tho, in gmcp.comm
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it's a 1 time gmcp message that fires when mud ticks
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: there is a gmcp tick message. but the mushclient tick timer doesn't use it.
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: the tick timer uses a tick telopt
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: see 'help telopts'
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: what would be the trig pattern for the gmcp message then, comm.tick doesn't work
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: that's not how gmcp works
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: see http://forums.zuggsoft.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=158455#158455
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: well I've read that before, reread it and it still makes no sense for tick
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: is it comm.tick
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: should it provide a message that is received, or do I need to send it
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: looked at http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/CmudGMCP ?
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it has no example for tick and I tried stuff, waiting 30 seconds to test diff. patterns is giving me pain
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's not so important anyways, could go without tick
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: maybe you should switch to mushclient then
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: why should I switch to mushclient I was just curious how tick works
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i think you just need to set trigger type to gmcp
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: lemme check I forgot to do that
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: well there we go, it's a simple message
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and I forgot to set it to gmcp so wasn't working
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyroda Tech: cant get network to function on my comp. just reformatted and it was fine as i was dl'ing updates and such. however now it wont even connect to lan, and if i rightclick to attempt troubleshoot problems/etc it doesnt respond :p any ideas?
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'm assuming it's windows?
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyroda Tech: yea
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: version?
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyroda Tech: vista ultima 32bit
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: are the LEDs on teh network card lighiting up with network activity?
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyroda Tech: they are
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: and you have the net card drivers installed?
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyroda Tech: yeah, hence i was functioning online just yesterday
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: hmmm
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: your problem is vista :p
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: heheh but not helpful :D
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyroda Tech: tried booting from 7dvd but it wont work
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyroda Tech: so cant even install that
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: perhaps need drivers for the network card? *shrug*...
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: my guess is drivers
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: what did you install since then? A firewall?  Virus scanner?
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyroda Tech: i cant even open chrome or firefox
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: "was dl'ing updates" and then the difficulties -- 
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyroda Tech: the thinks and they never even pop up o.o
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: possible that when you updated other thing since the initiall driver install you need an even newer card driver
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: "was dl'ing updates" from where
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyroda Tech: windows  update
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyroda Tech: and i backup/restore center won't load up either... so much for reverting updates
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: was the Windows OS from microsoft retail or from an OEM
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyroda Tech: oem
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Griffi Tech: anyone use Awesome?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gawyn Tech: anyone using bast's spellup?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: yes.
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I am
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gawyn Tech: I get a Trigger function "spellheaders_redirect" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gawyn Tech: when i just started the client
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gawyn Tech: it always happens any idea why?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Type plugins reload bsst
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: What happens when you do that?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gawyn Tech: fixed it =P
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gawyn Tech: so do i have to do that everytime?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I do not know. I just know that fixes it.
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gawyn Tech: thanks turie, appreciate it tons
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Welcome.
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gawyn Tech: also, if it fails a spell is there a way to get it to recast without having to click?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You mean it removes it from the spellup list? I just go in know the spell's number and scroll down to it.
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gawyn Tech: no, it just waits in the pending category where it says waiting
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: It should recast on failure, but on rare occasions it doesn't...I find doing 'bsp fast' tends to kick it into life
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gawyn Tech: just type bsp fast?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: That's what I do, I think there's other ways to prod it back to life. 'bsp fast' just causes it to catch up all spellups in one go
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gawyn Tech: ah nod, thanks so much guys, just started playing with it today
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Gawyn: Do you have Active or Paused?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gawyn Tech: its active right now
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I know Bast will be putting out a new version in the next few weeks if he gets the time to work on it.
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gawyn Tech: awesome get to relearn another one then =P
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nasus Tech: Anyone available for some suggestions, Cmud related
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: probably
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nasus Tech: I am unable to completely install Cmud 3.32 and 3.34. However Cmud 2.37 installs and runs.
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nasus Tech: Installation fails when its trying to load Cmud.exe/regserver
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: can't really help you with that. what os? you could try asking on the cmud forum
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nasus Tech: Win7
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: zugg is pretty active there
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: installing with admin priveledges?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nasus Tech: Yes.
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: sacrificed a virgin?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nasus Tech: next step.
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nasus Tech: Zugg forums suggests its DEP. I was unsuccessful in installing Cmud after playing with the DEP settings.
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: is there a way to change the default map file for cmud
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it keeps loading me own one
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: is there option to change cmud refresh amount ?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: so ffdshow won't start with wmp, is there any way to make it load ?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ratoi Tech: ||_||~|?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ratoi Tech: Lua w/ VI?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ratoi Tech: usefulness in a radial of 1-90?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ratoi Tech: nm
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ratoi Tech: missed the slower boat through schools knocks & cjecks tp bum wreckage.
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: does cmud have refresh rate option
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: Anyone here used the Hive conv() function?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teapie Tech: how do i define a variable in a mushclient script? local VarName doesn't work.
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: so i've noticed in gammon's docs he says to access a sqlite database a certain way, but the gmcp_mapper seems to use some sort of helper class
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: which helper class is it using?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: what does he say to do?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: last
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Bah. Ignore me.
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: first
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Yeah yeah, codebase confusion.
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: DatabasePrepare ("db", "SELECT * from weapons ORDER BY name")
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: in gmcpmapper it's more like 
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: where does he say that?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: for row in db:nrows(string.format("SELECT uid FROM areas WHERE name LIKE %s
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: DatabasePrepare is for precompiled statements
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: the mapper doesn't use them
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=9262
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: now i'm happy with either method.. i just would liek to know what the one using db:nrows is.. so i cna find out the API
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: see here: http://mushclient.com/scripts/doc.php?general=lua_sqlite3
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: GREATLY appreciated
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: np
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: this is exactly what i was looking for.. thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: anyone using cmud 3.34?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: is there a mushclient LuaSQLite command that will do an ExecuteScalar? All i want is a number from the database... not to have to process rows
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: what number?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: like a count?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unless it's an aggregate number, you're always processing rows in some fashion
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: don't know luasqlite.. but all databases have some sort of select count(*) from table.
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: sqlite supports the count() function in your queries
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yes... like a count.. a count to tell if soemthing exists
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i only want to insert a row if it doens't exist already.. but INSERT or REPLACE doesn't seem to be working
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: perhaps because i have an identity column as well
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: better to put a constraint on the database then to do that check
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't insert a value for the identity column
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: let the database do the work.. not sure if sqlite supports that
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: but if it does.. thats the way you want to do it.
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'm leaving the id field not included.. but maybe the id column breaks teh or REPLACE part of the sql
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: WinkleWinkle there are probably places in the gmcp mapper that already deal with this problem. try looking for them
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yeah.. i'm using that as my reference .. you use INSERT or REPLACE it seems.. i'll try dropping the useless auto id column and trying again
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: look for other spots 
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: auto id might be being used as a primary key.. may not want to drop that.
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: it's my own table, so i'll be safe hacking around Scryn.. but thanks :)
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scryn nods.
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: REPLACE only works if there is a uniqueness constraint in place
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: look for the comment "-- don't add multiple times, maintaining backwards database compatibility (there's no uniqueness constraint on rooms_lookup.uid)"
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: merci!
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: hm. there should probably be a break in that exists loop
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: oh never mind. it only ever returns one thing
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'll be able to adapt it.. :) thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i got "insert or replace" working.. thanks!
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: If you're a blind player using NVDA, you should update to the latest nightly build. It includes changes to how punctuation is handled, resulting in Aardwolf messages getting read as "your damage implodes your target" rather than "your damage less less less asterisk asterisk asterisk less less implodes less less less asterisk less less your target". This saves time.
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: good to know, thank you
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: NVDA?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Nonvisual Desktop Access. An open source screen reader from http://www.nvda-project.org/
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: And sorry about spamming everyone else. I hae long felt that Aardwolf should have a channel for VI players for this kind of thing.
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majic Tech: meh, if it's on tech people can let their VI friends know as well :P
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: I recommend dam 2 in that case. a bit boring, pimpslap, but less info
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majic Tech: or people who aren't vi can help people who are :P
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Jerome: What is dam 2? It sounds like it may be useful?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majic Tech: type damage without an argument and it'll give the options
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: you can set damage messages. if you type dam 2, all messages are pimpslap
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Wow! You learn something new every day! I was considering doing this in LUA; didn't know Aardwolf could already do it for me.
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: type damage for the options
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Just did. This should reduce verbosity hugely. That is always a good thing.
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: mxt is n xmpl whr its nt a gd thng
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: I'm easily confused. What's the difference between dam 2 and dam 3, exactly?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: 2 is experimental (ie, may not work correctly)?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: damage 2 is just "pimpslaps"
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: not much. 3 gives the verb, 2 pimpslap. both give the total in a number as well. but all is better than 0, where you get all lines for each attack
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Yeah, but they both seem to be one line per round. So how are they different?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I use damage 0
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: fastfinge, they are different in that damage 2 is more predictable because the damage verb doesn't change
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majic Tech: one gives the correct line for the damage output, the other gives pimpslaps for everything
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: So what about dam 1? I assumed dam 1 would do what you're saying dam 3 does.
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: total damage vs average damage
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Quick thought - try 'em out?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majic Tech: 1 is the total damage, 3 is the average damage
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majic Tech: so if you hit it 3 times and do 750 damage each, 1 will display 750 damage, 3 will display 250 damage
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: majic just failed at math
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Ah, okay.
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majic Tech: erm, i meant 250 damage each, total of 750 :P
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Majic :D
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majic Tech: i spent too long correcting quizzes and now i'm starting to make their errors :(
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: how do you know your corrections were correct and not subject to said errors?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: (at least you aren't making "they're" errors)
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majic Tech: because I'm a lot more careful when I'm marking someone else's work? :P
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: In adding a bio section to my table, whenever I use the character - it creates a warning and excludes the dash. Adding a \ in front of it has no effect, any suggestions?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: in SQL.
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Hmm, fixed it I guess, anyone know how to delete all entries with name='Anne'? 9-)
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: huh?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: remove from table where ...
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Found it, delete from table where...
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: or that
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: yeah
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: whats the command to pause and resume spellups with the latest BAST minwin_spellup ?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gawyn Tech: anyone using bast's minwin version of spellup able to tell me how to macro the "waiting" so i dont have to click it with the mouse i would greatly appreciate it.
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yerviz Tech: is there some way to disable the f1 as being the program help macro?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you can't ask that question without specifying what you mean by "the program"
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yerviz Tech: good point, aardwolf mush client
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yerviz Tech: sorry about that
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: File->Global Preferences...->General and check F1,F6 are macros
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yerviz Tech: done, thanks!
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shazar Tech: is there any way to transfer or use the aardwolf mushclient mapper to make maps?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: ...isn't that what it does automatically?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Well of course the data is stored in a standard SQL Lite database....of course I think you'd have to do the work yourself on the conversion to some sort of external mapping system :)
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shazar Tech: haha let me rephrase, I meant to make maps out of the database, in some other format which is viewable?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shazar Tech: ah okay, are there programs out there that can help with the conversion?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you could probably easily make that happen by hooking into the part that draws the map in the miniwindow
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: that would be in aardmapper.lua
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shazar Tech: okay, maybe I'm trying to do something way out of my expertise here :(
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gawyn Tech: hey fiendish are you familiar with bast's minwin_spellup plugin?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: no, sorry
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I bet Bast is, though
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gawyn Tech: hehe
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dobee Tech: is there any way to speed up your spellup aside from wish's???
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: no...
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Practice the skills higher?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Type faster!
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dobee Tech: lol
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FatesDagger Tech: oby wins
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: in terms of the lag you incur by using the cast command, no.  In terms of strategizing and eliminating unnecessary idle time so that you're not stuck in a huge pile of what are essentially stacked commands, yes (use the CAST command, most usually via a plugin).
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: in php if i have an else statement can i put other if statements in there?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: yes
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: if (xxx) if(xxx) if(xxx){{{}}}
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: rather, if (xxx) {if (yyy) {if (zzz) {}}}
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: i was trying an else {some stuff IF(blagh) {whatever}} ... it was not workin so i changed the else to elseif and just added some !isset and it worked
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gruagach Tech: if i plugged an ipod charget into a droid wall charger converter thing.. what could happen
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: it could charge it ...
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gruagach Tech: thats what i'm thinking..
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: it would work fine charging i believe
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gruagach Tech: good enough for me
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GabeLogan Tech: Hey anyone know how to make links in a word document universal? Meaning, I want to put a link in a word document to a file, so when the link is clicked on the file will open.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GabeLogan Tech: But, the file needs to be able to be opened from other computers not just my own.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gravy Tech: i think you cant do that..
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GabeLogan Tech: What if you put those files in a folder with that document?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: currently the mapper for the mushclient has recorded a particular room to the exit -1, so anytime I'm running to a room with -1 it goes to that room by default. How do I change this?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: or even prevent a -1 room id from being recorded
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jefftrex Tech: Cygwin takes ages to install
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: why use cygwin in the first place?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Linux doesn't take ages to install (=
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jefftrex Tech: Messing with compiling a few things, I know right? I could of dual-booted a Linux partition by now..
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jefftrex Tech: Been going..oooh, an hour, 39% the way there.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: virtual machines work, too. install debian base with devel tools
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Is there a way to teach the MUSHclient automapper about doors?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: mapper cexit.... you can stack commands
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: GentooX, how do I stack commands with mapper cexit?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: how do you stack commands normally
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: With a semicolon. However, if I type mapper cexit open s <semicolon> s, then I'll get two separate commands and the mapper gets "mapper cexit open s" only.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: how do you type a semicolon on a channel? use two of them
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: If I turn off command stacking, however, then mapper cexit fails because I don't move.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i tried fixing that by making an alias called opens
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: using a semicolon stacks it -_-
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: that had open s;;s
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: ; <---
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Hooray! Thanks!
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: but even then i don't feel mush mapper has the idea of where doors are.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: on chan would be ~
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: what can I do with Bast's container sort plug-in when it won't load and returns "Line    1: Expected '<', got "{" (content not permitted here) (Cannot load)"
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Sure that's his, or is that mine?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: it's called Container_Sort.xml
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tenlorn shrugs helplessly.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Think that might be mine.  It'll show the author, if you go to file->plugins
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: it won't load it in and doesn't show up in the list of plugins
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: can I get a link to yours?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Should show the author 5 or 6 lines down if you edit the .xml file
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AQcSJ7QDH5gyZGMzdDRkanZfMGduajRoczNr&hl=en
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: yea, that's yours
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Running on windows or unix?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: an interesting plugin
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: If you open the xml file in notepad/wordpad, do you see extra characters there that don't show up in the link?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: If I had to guess, somewhere in the process of getting it from that website to your xml file, something used the wrong encoding
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: what's the best way to download and import it?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Are you on windows or unix?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: windows
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: open notepad, copy/paste everything in that google docs into notepad, and save it as Container_Sort.xml
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: ok, doing that now
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: so this plugin takes everything out of a container and then adds it all back in in order, does it?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Pretty much
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: or does it sort the "look in" response?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Nope
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: It's pretty inefficient -- I never bothered to clean it up
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: But it works
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: very interesting.. especially the use of Queue... haven't seen that used yet
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: It works very well, and makes life a lot easier, thanks Madcatz
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: You can also get all items in a certain range out of a bag
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: ok, that worked. thanks Madcatz
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: The speedwalk queue is just so you don't get disconnected for sending 500 commands in a second
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: i still get "Unknown command. Please check the helpfiles." before it starts working
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: After typing "sort bag"?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: yea
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Have you reinstalled the plugin?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Type echocommands and try it again?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Should be able to see what it's sending
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: i just did
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, echocommands rules
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: now it says That is not a command. Type Commands for a complete list
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: If you turn echocommands on, it'll tell you what command you're trying to do
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Haven't you watched the Matrix?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: mis
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: wow you could save one million players objects with a gig of hardrive 
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Diesalot Tech: anybody on mush client using the plugin for sorting items in bags according to lev etc?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: is the mud connector at www.mudconnect.com down for anyone else?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: can't load it
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: it works for me
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: works fine for me
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: you gotta type www.mudconnect.com
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: mudconnect.com isnt working for me but www.mudconnect.com works fine
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: I did.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: neiterh work for me.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ye he did
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: neither, rather
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and it's not loading
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Mine's the opposite mudconnect.com works, but www.mudconnect.com doesn't
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: it's because they run from Amazon s# services vis Sony's PSN
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: (i meant) it's because they run from Amazon s3 services via Sony's PSN
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I think you mean Amazon's EC2 services ;)  s3 hasn't been down for a couple of years :P
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: s3 ec2.. yadda yadda  yadda 
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: ;)
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElementPyros Tech: Hi
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElementPyros Tech: What could be the possible reasons for not being able to login on a specific web pages site, everytime I log in and try click on another tab it logs me out and I have to log in again.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: service provider
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: or the webpage host
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: or the web page server
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElementPyros Tech: I have now tried on the following browsers : Windows Internet Explorer, Mozilla Firefox, Safari 5 and  Google Chrome.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: or the web page owner
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: try netscape navigator
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElementPyros Tech: Mkay
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElementPyros Tech: Netscape work well?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: <---sarcastic
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: It's way slower than Mosaic.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: make sure you are not going to like www.page.com and when you click on a tab it redirects to page.com/tab ... that could kick you out
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElementPyros Tech: hadar thats what it is doing
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: so login at page.com not www.page.com .... =/
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Sounds like a cookie problem
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElementPyros Tech: Well apparently I am connecting through page.com not www.page.com 
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElementPyros Tech: http://eternal-wow.com/forum/ucp.php?mode=login (when i log in) when i try click on a tab http://eternal-wow.com/server/vote/ (then i am logged out)
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Sounds like a cookie problem
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElementPyros Tech: I have used ccleaner to clear my cache, cookies etc.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: they might be setting the cookie wrong on there site
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElementPyros Tech: Well what can I do then?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElementPyros Tech: So no ideas?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: i just tested it and it did not kick me out on chrome
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElementPyros Tech: let me try again on chrome.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElementPyros Tech: did you create an account on the site?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: yup lol
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElementPyros Tech: you didnt have a problem agreeing to the terms?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: no
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElementPyros Tech: Strange when I click on agree to the terms I the page auto refreshes
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: did not kick me out on FF
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: anyone work with command line php?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElementPyros Tech: did you try click on vote or item shop?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: not for awhile.. whats your question cheez?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: vote link
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: by that i mean using php.exe rather than using web browser to execute code
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: well i have webpages that work great - but when i try to run them from command line they bomb out
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElementPyros Tech: once you clicked on vote tab, did you try click on one of the possibly sites you can vote on?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: doesnt recognise OCI_connect as function and such
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElementPyros Tech: possible*
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: are you running them on the server that they're hosted on?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: there are libraries that are loaded through httpd.conf (or similar depending on how you have them hosted)
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: that probably arent loaded when you just run them using php.exe
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: using wamp but yea lemme check env variabels
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: didnt think about that
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: apache leaves stuff on ram and some stuff doesnt work sometimes in orignal ways
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: definitely sounds like something isn't getting imported during runtime...
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: it could be your service provider
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: you want me to give you an alternate file on mudconnect.com and try that url?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: goodle mudconnect.com and try thoughs urls
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: no urls on mudconnect work. Not voting, not anything.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: figured it out
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: can you goole mudconnect?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: what was the problem cheez?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: wasnt thinking that the php.exe doesnt use the same ini that the webserver uses
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Yes. I can even look at google's cash.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: nods
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: try this url http://www.mudconnect.com/cgi-bin/member/login_front.cgi
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: It doesn't work. It wouldn't, seeing as I cannot ping it, because I cannot resolve the hostname.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: What file I try for really doesn't matter in that situation.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: and you can browse other webpages.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Yes.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: The DNS servers at mudconnect are screwed up, I think.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: I thought they were hosted at wolfpaw, though? They're resolving, still.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElementPyros Tech: Anyone know how to change cookie settings for google chrome?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: it's in options, under the under the hood part IIRC
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElementPyros Tech: Ok seriously, what can I do to get this website to stop auto logging me out everytime I click on a tab?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: What website, ElementPyros?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Anyone else find the new Unity interface on ubuntu 11.11 disgusting?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: On the same note, is there a way to get the sidebar panel on the bottom and smaller?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greenwing Tech: anyone know of a better mobile mud client than pocket pity
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greenwing Tech: putty8
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: Did you know ISP service providers block port 80
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: did you know most routers respond with closed with default stealth settings to probes to port 113?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: for the obsolete irc network
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: If they did that, you couldn't access any websites at all. I doubt any ISP does. Well, some probably do block port 80 outgoing, but you shouldn't be running a web server on a home connection anyway. Pay for a VPS or something.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: I run a webserver on a home connection.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: You shouldn't. It's against your AUP and/or TOS, probably. AAnd a VPS is inexpensive and fast. Nobody on a home connection should be running mail or web servers for any reason at all. It would kill 99% of phishing and spam if they were all disabled.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: can c programming detect computer that is using there network program
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Hmm, uninstalled unity on the new ubuntu 11.04, how do i make gnome-panels load on login instead of having to select 'ubuntu classic' as the login mode? The workaround i found now was to do "screen gnome-panels" in a terminal and then close it so that the panels don't end when i close the terminal. Any ideas?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: s/panels/panel/g
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: for those using a cmud speedwalk script using %walk(), do you preparse the result beyond removal of the speedwalk character (period by default) or just send it raw via the run command?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: i parse the cmud paths into mud run commands
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: In regards to my ealier question, a simple workaround that i found was to add a script to /etc/init.d/ called 'start_panel' and it contained 'gnome-panel' as the command. Works for now, but if anyone has a better solution i'm all ears.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: how do you find unity?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: with a shovel
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: What do you mean?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: I removed unity, pissed me off.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: ohhh cool
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: I don't want a linux window manager to tell me how my stuff must look, that's a very windows thing to do.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: heh. well said
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: how about 11.04 in general? any comments?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you mean with gnome or kde instead?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: For some reason my wifi seems laggier, and unity is a piece, but other than that it's just 10.10
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Does it have anything worthwhile other than unity? I have no plans to upgrade my server because it's not LTS, but should I?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: no
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: im not a desktop fan... i love my fluxbox
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Not worth it tbh, fast
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: there's virtually no change other than unity as the winman
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fastfinge thanks Cheezburger heartily.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: I'm not sure what the dev team's reasoning behind unity was, but it was a bad call.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: That's what I thought, but thought I might have missed something.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: From what I've read, they want to compete with OS X.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: it was the easy switch from windows
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Too easy, if you ask me
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: and mac
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Linux needs to stick to what linux is, and stop trying to be windows.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: IMHO, Linux needs to stick to servers, and stop trying to get on my desktop, because it never will. The right tool for the job. And Linux is the right tool for a server.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: well the ones the know their "thing" can always customize :D
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: I run 1 machine with doze on it, and it's simply to upgrade my malwarebytes i carry on a flash drive that i use to fix people's comps.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: If we could get Windows and Mac to agree to stop making servers, that would be good, too.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Unity doesn't allow customization unless you change the source and recompile.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: agreed
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Helped set up a PHP server at school, and they run a doze 2k server, effing retarded.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Oh, boy! WAMP!
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheezburger nods.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: (chuckles) well that means more opportunity for us *grins
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: OS X is better as a server, but not by much.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: I disagree
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: it's better by alot, but the bar isn't set very high
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Better than windows, while still managing to be terrible. Ever tried to turn off the GUI in OS X? And the docs for OS X server are *awful*. One of the few times Linux docs win hands down.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Even checking the logs for a serverside error on windows servers becomes an ordeal, whereas on *NIX, i simply type rgrep "<regexp>" <file> -- Holy **** there's your error, Windows "We can't find the error, but there is an error, and the error is causing some issue we can't identify
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Accept that OS X does not use standard linux tools, because they're unix pretending to be Linux that's sort of BSD accept not really. 
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You fall to the floor laughing at Fastfinge's remark.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're unix...not pretending to be linux, since linux is pretending to be unix
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: lmfao
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Linux isn't trying to be unix, linux is trying to build on unix ;)
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a tad backwards on who's trying to be whom, and who's pretending to be whom
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: So sayeth Linus :P
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so sayeth linux years afterward when he's trying to change people's opinions...
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: linus*
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheezburger snickers softly.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: I'm not gonna lie, when he started, his goal was very ill concieved, but it /eventually/ served it's purpose.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: changing your story doesn't change your actual objective
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: What I mean is that Apple likes to pretend that the fact that they're Unix makes them just like Linux, and try and sell servers. Unless they're talking about security, when they say they're just like BSD. I realize the difference between Linux and Unix, and so does Apple, accept when they're marketing servers.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wouldn't say it was ill conceived, it was just a school project
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Valid point.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unix is for servers, linux is for hobbyists
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Also true, but linux does it's part in server's as well.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're not pretending to be just like linux...they're already better
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Define better. Better, to me, means well supported and a place where things just work. In todays server environment, that means Linux.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smirk.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: ... or unix.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, that's what all the support forums say
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: Never say that to the face of a VMS guy...
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: we wouldn't have IT guys if things "just worked".
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hehe, erikson gonna break out the "xxx measures uptimes in yyy" quotes?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: But who would deal with the problems Between Keyboard And Chair if not for IT people?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: same people who invented the iD10T spec
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you forgot the "exists" :P
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Half of the support questions I see are from people attempting to run Linux desktops. My VPS does, in fact, just work. Never had any problems with my LAMP stack...or, well, anything else I've wanted to run (mail, news, penmush, etc). From what I see, everyone elses seems to do the same.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unix vps just works as well
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: what's vps stand for?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but vps is lowest common denominator wrt hardware shown to the OS
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: virtual private server
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: basically hosting-provider level VMs
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Does it have apt-get or yum or something? If not, it doesn't just work in the way I define just work.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes fastfinge
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I can even use my BSD-based package system on linux, solaris, etc
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: The only "unix" I've had to deal with in person is what Apple calls Unix underpinnings of OS X, and it does not. Well, it does have macports and other third party package managers, but they're all some of the worst things in the history of computing.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: Wow, THERE'S a short-term perspective...
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and there we get to the root of your opinions...ignorance :P
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fastfinge shrugs helplessly.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: I don't care about history. I have work to do today. My only concerns are the best way to do it now.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: A couple hours on SCO would quickly disabuse you of that notion...
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Is SCO not dead yet?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: COBOL isn't even dead yet.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: This is computing.  Nothing ever died.  I'll lay good odds there are System/360's churning away.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: I'm 22, and I feel like I've been glancing over long and complicated legal articles about SCO that I really don't care about since I started reading technical articles at about age 11.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: True Erikson. But if you want to do something now, they aren't the right solution any longer.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: They are if they're what's running.  Green fields are endangered species.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: With computing becoming a more or less on demand resource thanks to the likes of racspace and Amazon, what's running is, for the most part, whatever the heck I want to be running.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: Funny how you can put 'on demand' and 'Amazon' together this week.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Amazon wasn't down everywhere. The only people who went down were the people who didn't have themselves set up to quickly move to another Amazon zone.
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GabeLogan Tech: Anyone know what the new/upcoming file system is? 
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GabeLogan Tech: I've heard it just can
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GabeLogan Tech: er Ive heard it just can't remember the name...
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: is there a way to set the number of lines to wrap output using a plugin?
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: for mushclient:P
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nist Tech: ..
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: /
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nist Tech: just testing
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kwerbias Tech: hi guys
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kwerbias Tech: in the aardwolf client, how does one set an alias to parse suffixed variables?
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Farkyss shrugs helplessly.
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kwerbias Tech: for instance.  alias ccal = cast 'cause light' .. my argument would be 'ccal bunny' - however the client will not accept the alias unless it's typed in by itself
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: You can make it a regex, and capture the argument...or you could make it a server-side alias, if it's that simple...
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kwerbias Tech: going over it with tllamacazqui, trying some options
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kwerbias Tech: let you know what i find
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Anyone know why my output decided to double line-space? Using MUSHclient
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: All good, I apparently made a \n trigger...
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: 2 different session of cmud with same packages have different speedtest times, why would that be
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: how would i make a mush plugin install any other plugins that are needed for it to work properly?
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: What are you trying to do?
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: basically i have a set of plugins that are clan specific. trying to package them together so there is a single plugin that needs to be added and it will add the other plugins automatically. not sure if thats doable, but i noticed basts v6 ones do something like that
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: basically something like on install check if the others are installed and if not, add them to the plugin list
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Phalae peers around himself intently.
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: how do i make it so my computer beeps when paged or when manor bell is rung?
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: PlaySound()
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: where would i put that? also i use mush
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: I know what you use :P It's a mush function.
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: oh  hehe
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: where would it go though?
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: erm...that's supposed to happen automatically...
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: it doesnt :( well let me see if it works for the manor bell, but what i really want is a page sound
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: ok the manor bell makes a noise
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: how about a page?
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: it's supposed to
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: nod, but it isnt :( i'd like it to
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I actually sends a beep code I think.
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: what does?
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: It...the manor bell ring.
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: ok.. well if the paging is supposed to make a noise, then i'd like to fix it so it does
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: if the paging is not supposed to make a noise, id like to find a way to do it
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Game -> Configure -> Triggers, select the page message in the match, go down to where you can pick a sound, click browse, go to C:/WINDOWS/Media
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: my hero!
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Phalae looks at CheezFries and swoons in ecstasy.
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Phalae looks at Cheezburger and swoons in ecstasy.
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheezburger goes, "Heh."
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: ok.. one last. so for a page you get this: Mendaloth pages you 'Oooh'
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: making a trigger that is * pages you    doesn't work.. what is the syntax?
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: * pages you *
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: otherwise it things it ends with you
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheezburger nods at Scryn.
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Otherwise it has to end at exactly 'you'
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: things = thinks
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: lessee
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: anyone feel like paging me? :)
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: zomg!!!!
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: thank you!
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheezburger bows deeply.
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: yes time to spam me with pages :D feel free - im happy it works
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scryn )
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: you asked for it :-p
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: oh one more test
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: page me in two seconds
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: yes! it works when the window is down
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Phalae bounces around.
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: brilliance :) Thanks!
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: So, how's firefox 4?
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Crap with supported addons, and flash videos on porn sites blow.
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: more information than I needed
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Cheezburger: You have been watching porn again. You are going to go blind from the amount you watch on a hourly basis. lol
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Likely true
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: v4 is fine. faster than 3
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: i didn't like the new ui, so i changed some setting to get back to 'classic look'
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Faster coldboot, more aethetically appealling, but alot of addons aren't yet supported for it
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: the only thing i was missing until recently was vertical tabs
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: finally found a decent addon for it and i'm all good. must-have addons are all there, too. noscript, adblock, greasemonkey
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: my 4chan addon isn't supported :P
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: yeah, that sucks
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: but there's a greasemonkey script that does the same thing
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: analog VHS heterosexual porn (approved by god) was classier than digital analperverted porn (condemned by god)
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xyliz starts to hear the faint sounds of a cricket chirping.
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: if porn was voluntary work with job opportunities elsewhere and they did it for the sleuth or perversion granted them, it would be less illegal than in the other context that is currently employed
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Xyliz: You are god?
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: it may be considered military service in some country's
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Turies - shhhh, don't tell anybody, they won't believe you
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: panz heil government reich
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: in those timetracks were Adolf wins the war, that may be Saint Adolf
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GabeLogan Tech: How do you change mush so that it keeps ur last typed command in the input box?
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: alt+space, choose "keep command on imput line"
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: input*
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GabeLogan Tech: thanks man
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: most players do not want that, prefering to use up arrow instead
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: I wasn't connect to the mud and I got this output
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: "integrity_check"="ok"
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: and like 5 or siix other lines or maybe I was lemme check
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: nope i was disconnected
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: it might have happened because of the client
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: I have an older 50inch tv (the fat kind) and the volume is getting screwey.  The voices are way too soft and the base shakes the room.  In the menu options, lowering or raising the base doesn't change a thing.  The only thing that affects   it is a menu item called "SBS", when it is off I get 0 volume, and raising it will raise the volume but it still keeps the voices quiet and base ridiculously loud... suggestions?
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: so im new to gmcp - anyone mess with it in tintin?
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your spouse :P
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Yeah Cheezburger has :)
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: he's afk
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, with 3 tt users on, you and he are 2 of them :P
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cartman would be the third
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: whats the command to see which clients are being used
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: nevermind
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: dumb question
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: carts used to do a fair bit of scripting, but I think he's been coasting for a few years now ;-)
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: If you poke around in Cheezburger's gmcp script he uses it extensively in there, might figure out what you need to do.
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: people seriously have 120 friends on here - leaves no room for enemies
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Abelinc types "count"
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: who active might give a trueer picture of possibly enemies...
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: i didnt mean literally no room, just sayin thats a lot for here - thats like friending the whole light clan
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chuft Tech: would you get the works of shakespheare?
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah, just because they're not active at the moment doesn't mean that can't be enemies
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: actually we need a nemesis list - so you can pk anywhere when you have mutually added each other to the list
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mendaloth perks up and stares intently at CheezFries.
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: nemisis
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chuft Tech: feel free to add me
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we have it on a clan-by-clan basis ;-)
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: damnit had it right the first time
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chuft Tech: feel free to take abelinc outside and drop him in the recycling bin
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: i mean anywhere like the raider/defender flags allow
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup cheez...clans can decide to be nemesis to other clans, on mututal agreement
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: atwar status
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: doh* rarely see that, I forgot
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cmar Tech: which client works good for a blackberry?
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: midpssh to connect to a computer running a real MUD client :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox . o O ( unlike tf! )
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cmar Tech: may you please give me the link to the mobile client
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a blackberry-specific build of midpssh has a page at http://bbssh.org/
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cmar Tech: please give me the link to download the blackberry mud clien
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Blackberry Client....There is a telnet client called bbssh at bbssh.org
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cmar Tech: i have downloaded bbssh client ,i have no clue how it works
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: it is awesome
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: go into menu you can set like hotkeys and stuff
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: and auto log ins
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cmar Tech: im in the deine new connection page ? Still confussed
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You will need to do the following. Make a new connection, Connection Name: Aardwolf, Host: aardmud.org, Port: 23, Connection Type: SSH, and Save. This should get you a telnet connection to Aardwolf. 
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: i havent used my blackberry in over a year..sorry i cant remember..it seemed pretty step by step though
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type telnet
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: From there, you will need to just setup any macros you wish to make.
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cmar Tech: its connecting ,let me wait 
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I would suggest Font: Legacy Font 4x6. This will allow the font to fit the screen size.
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cmar Tech: why is it taking so long to connect?
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cmar Tech: and for the networking connection type: ?
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I have Telnet
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Connection Type: Telnet. I was mistake with SSH.
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StevenSegal Tech: does anyone know how to get all of my windows in zmud to lock in place right now?
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Try out MUSHclient. It does a nice job of doing it for you.
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StevenSegal Tech: thanks, but that's not really a solution for zmud lol
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cmar Tech: im in ", thank you 
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: iirc there's a lock layout option in zmud, check the menus
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StevenSegal Tech: yeah, that locks them all in but it doesnt dock the windows
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: there's no way to prevent floating windows from being moved around, if that's what you're after
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StevenSegal Tech: okay, thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: lock layout just means docking is not allowed to happen.
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: and by extension, undocking.
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: floating windows...y'know, float, that's kinda their thing :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cmar Tech: uhm how do i select/accept?
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cmar Tech: ive entered my character name but cant accept to proceed and enter my pin
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, been a while since I made a new char, but either "y" or "accept" and then enter
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cmar Tech: what be thy name, adventurer ? "I wrote " cmar . But dont know how to proceed? Which buttons enter?
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is like a normal telnet connection. In addition, I would setup an in-game alias that will reduce all the spam you can. It helps.
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: so i'm pretty computer illiterate and am using mushclient 4.72 and want the aardclient instead....windows xp.....what is the best way to go about installing it?
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I would suggest downloading it and installing it.
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: yea hes right
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: do i open it or save it?
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: after downloading it
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: save it on desktop or somewhere ez to find imo
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: read the webpage, which tells you exactly what to do:  http://www.aardwolf.com/play/downloadmc.htm
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: ok, just got my first Aard Weapon that I can use.... and before I go hunting, I wanna make ABSOLUTELY sure my trigger for disarm is good to go
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Good news Pyro
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: the trigger works, been using it... but my commands are
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: When you are disarmed with Aard it goes in your inventory :)
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: if it is disarmed, it will go to your inventory, since it is an aard weapon
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: get all    wield dagger       dual Flute
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Pryo, it won't be on the ground :) don't need the get all :)
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: oh shit, that is good to know hehe. cause even with my trigger I lose weapons every no wand then, guess moving to fast... who knows hehe
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: thanks for the info guys :)
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: advanced security feature :D
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Well that only applies to Aard equipment (well could apply to owned, never tested)
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: how do you change code that is running?
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: you dont.... well you can change the code but it will not reflect in the application until you save it and restart with the new code
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: you can change data, but not the coding
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: can gdb change lines of code?
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: I was thinking maybe there was a way to change function pointers that gcc creates live
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: not sure on that, dont know what gdb is
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: but i cant imagine how you could present the function pointer using printf
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: gdb is a linux debugger
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: I dont use Linux for my OS, sorry
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: well that said
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: i wonder do they use individual code for each zone or do they use global mob codes for some stuff
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cmar Tech: is there an mud client for nokia? 
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: whats nokia?
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cmar Tech: its a phone brand
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: hah
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: it would be nice to use phone directions and enter buttons to attack
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: and a flee button
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: heres a nokia add http://www.adobe.com/devnet/devices/articles/s60_touch_games.html
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: well a add about nokiea
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cmar Tech: nokia is just like blackberry
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cmar Tech: its a brand of mobile cells
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: one down, three more to go.  I wish writing all this informational stuff wasn't so tedious.